Previous thread: >>559826246Featured game by thumbnail: Cataclysm Bright Nights>Are mystery dungeon games allowed in this thread?Generally yes, most mystery dungeon games(Shiren the Wanderer, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Etrian Mystery Dungeon, etc.) can be considered roguelikes>Is Elin/Elona allowed?Yes, they are roguelikes. Please do not post your Little Sister farms>Is Dwarf Fortress allowed?If it's adventure mode, yes. But adventure mode is boring. /tg/ has a general for fortress mode playthroughs but you can share here too!>FAQhttps://l.idrix.fr/J7sOv>What to Playhttps://l.idrix.fr/eYNOh>Individual Game Pastashttps://l.idrix.fr/wXd8t>Roguelike Archive (Collection of pretty much every free roguelike there is)https://archive.org/details/ArchiveRL.7z>/rlg/'s "most popular" Cataclysm: DDA forkhttps://github.com/cataclysmbnteam/Cataclysm-BN/releases>RogueBasin News20 Mar 2026 - Pollinate or Die v0.45 "Demo" Steam18 Mar 2026 - Tales of Kathay v0.13.1 Open Alpha Itch Steam17 Mar 2026 - ROGUE-FP v3.10 Steam gog17 Mar 2026 - ZMAngband III.17 Itch5 Mar 2026 - PWMAngband 1.6.2 build 3 released1 Mar 2026 - Wizard School Dropout Preview 13 "Insane in the Brain" released27 Feb 2026 - Soulash 2 v0.9.19 "Steam Deck" Steam26 Feb 2026 - Overworld v2.8 released24 Feb 2026 - ZMAngband II.24 Itch22 Feb 2026 - Steam Sky 12.0 released15 Feb 2026 - ZMAngband II.15 Itch>/rlg/'s shared DCSS online accountUser: rlgrobinPassword: ownfault (or "robin" on Xtahua)Roguelike Servershttps://angband.live/ (Angband and variants)
We're breaking new ground here. Never before has a roguelike allowed us to live out our dreams of being a Sparkledog.
Why do degenerates infest everything?
>>561026405It's a meta reference to the blob in cata.
I've been out of the loop on roguelieks for a while, what version of Angband are we all playing now?
>>561028173I don't think anyone is playing *bands these days, it will need a new fotm variant
>>561007110 #The things I'd like the most are:>an Esper rework to give them more damaging options that aren't negated by force bubble (Kinesis mutations suck dick and Sunder Mind requires you to wait for cooldowns repeatedly)>An AI rework that makes followers more reactive to shit like damaging fluids (I cheat to Obliterate Red Jells on sight and I'm proud of it) and easily avoidable Instakill attacks>Perhaps a revamped legendary spawn/history system that doesn't feel like you're playing slots for loved by robots guys>Maybe at lower priority but more Galgal tier enemies for different factions so that the player has to effectively pick which factions to befriend instead of just maxing robots rep and being done with the whole system
>>561003871I peeked with clairvoyance, before you start the quest the back bay is empty>>561021513false, this doesn't allow you to be a sparkledog, it lets you live out your dream of pretending to be a sparkledog
i really am a sparkledog, though. i know it in my heart
sparkledoglike
>>561032081>Maybe at lower priority but more Galgal tier enemies for different factions so that the player has to effectively pick which factions to befriend instead of just maxing robots rep and being done with the whole systemI think I would rework the entire system so that you have to pick a side between opposing factions with lore about why those factions are enemies. In other words, make reputation gains zero sum. Right now it's just a matter of grinding long enough if you want everyone to love you, because you can get net positive rep from the right legendaries. When it's a grind you don't actually have to make many choices other than realizing that certain legendaries are terrible to kill.
>>561045281...or you can continuously wait for the bookbinder to restock until you get all the shrodinger pages you need.I feel like the game would improve by a lot if thirst was more of an issue, or if there was some other built in turn limit that prevented you from abusing game mechanics to hell and back.
Infinite resources and respawning enemies in any roguelike, ever? Miss me with that shit.
>>561045651If those things are so boring and tedious then just don't do them, outside of the secret boss and maybe a couple of robot type enemies you definitely don't need 50 polygel'd nectars either
I want to try a silly literal caveman run in cata but I'm not sure what settings to use and where I'd have to artificially limit things.I started one a few hours ago with default world settings, but with the Dino mod. With a naked, illiterate, high strength, 4 intelligence dude spawning in the modded "dino nest" scenario, intending to avoid using any technology, modern medicine, firearms, or talking to anyone. But then I just started gathering rocks for throwing and clearing a small town for easy food and crafting materials. Now he's standing in a pawn shop surrounded by baseball bats, knives, helmets and such. I'm not sure if this will work. Even a caveman would probably grab the cool shiny bat made of sky rock instead of using a primitive wooden club, or use the cool knife instead of a sharp rock.I think I should restart with cities and civilization set to 0, maybe with the innawoods mod. But would that be any sort of challenge? No cities means almost no zombies. Could one fight dinosaurs instead of zombies as the main combat staple? Maybe some other mod would be good for this?
>>561053470Nethack is slop because you can altar farm and roll for polymorphed items
>>561016425I have the same question. I knew you autists would just call me a retard and tell me to play BN so I started playing DDA a couple of weeks ago. I have now played it for about 400 hours. I don't understand why people say the game is like a real life simulator. It's true to an extent, but not so much that it ruins your experience. I tried BN a couple of days ago and it doesn't seem very good. Rougelikes are supposed to be hard to get into, and BN seems like the exact same game but slopified and designed to appeal to the masses, with all the problems and inconveniences that I now know how to deal with heart taken out. CDDA is the intended way to play, and BN is for those who had neither the patience nor skill to play it properly. Or at least that's what I understand. I don't get why people praise it so much here.
>>561053607It ruins my immersion.
>>561053863You understand nothing.You do realise that BNs is basically just DDA from before the retards molested it too much with some extra shit added don't you?Of course you don't ffs.
>>561053863Obviously the original Cata by whales is the intended experience.
>Felt like doing a martial artist run>Picked brawler cause why not>Never tried evac shelter scenario so choose that>Every fucking town has squads of electric assholes scattered aroundShould I just start another run?
>>561064531Would making knuckles and wearing them make you immune to the shocks?
>>561066095(me)Also, some martial arts allow weapons.
>>561066095>>561066217Maybe? I have crafted a few but I haven't really engaged with them so I don't really know how that interaction works.
>>561053863>Rougelikes
>>561071483I would get into her ifygwim
>>561064531I had an unarmed character armed with either a cestus or scrap knuckles for a long time and I tried to punch a zapper once. It didn't go well. He didn't have the brawler trait, but I was googling it at some point and someone said you can still throw things. So your best bet is to keep a stack of like 30 rocks or "chunks of steel", that you can hold as a big single stack in your hands for faster throwing, to throw at zappers/boomers/bloated zombies early, then eventually get better things you can throw. Throwing is shit for the first two-three levels, but if you kite single zombies away from groups, you can just wait till they're in spear range to shotgun them with rocks, preferably having them step into 400 move cost bushes so you could throw four times as many rocks at them from point blank, then take one step away and throw another 4x worth of rocks as they pay another quadrupled move cost to get out of the bush tile. If you do that, you can level throwing really fast, then probably toggle exp gain for it off because I'm not sure if there's any point in going past level like 5-6 for it.
>>561072910Hitchhiker says that the cestus is non-conductive but that the scrap knuckles aren't.
>>561060461I would play BN but not having pockets really annoys me
>>561074062I like pockets too but I crossed over to BN when they made fire have magical noise cancelling properties so buildings on fire don't draw in zombies. I put up with a lot of shit for realism's sake like all the shit they did to vehicles but now they're doing bizarro changes with no realism to fall back on?
>>561074062nta and i also like pockets but you can get most of that utility by favoriting items. i actually prefer dda but it's because the menus are better, you can grab all around without needing to use aim, you can favorite the weapon not the sheath it goes into, you can read details on items from the w wield menu by pressing e on them, that kind of stuff.>>561053863how tf do you stack up 400 hours of gaming after "a couple weeks" ? i probably don't even have that many hours across all forks and i've played cata for years
>>561072910I'll try leveling throwing then, it's not like I can get within punching range of the fluorescent husks or the stormbringers anyways.
>>561075272>how tf do you stack up 400 hours of gaming after "a couple weeks"?It's literally the only thing I've been doing in my free time other than 4chan.
>>561073724Might have been the latter then. I just switched to throwing for those guys from that point on. You could just kite one zapper away, quicksave just in case, and try punching it. You'll probably still live if he's alone, regardless. Having the option to just pelt zombies with disposable objects like rocks or steel chunks that you can get by smashing broken cars is nice to have anyway and you lose nothing by using it occasionally. Once you get throwing to like level 4-5 you become really accurate even at longer ranges, so it's always a nice tool to soften up crowds you can handle before you engage them in melee. You can easily kill approaching ferals with rocks before they start throwing theirs, for example, so you can eventually stop hiding behind corners or lamp posts for them.
>>561075662check out the sky islands mod for dda, i like that one a lot.
>>561075876Will do.
Sometimes I question the visual direction I took, if I should have gone with this style instead.
bump
>>561082613Not too bad looking for ASCII. Still can't bring myself to play a game where letters are scary monsters. You at least need symbols like DF has to make it immersive.
>>561088256You just need to git gud at imagination
>>561082613>roguelike about anal play>the graphics are still asciiHow is anyone supposed to fap to this?
>>561082613>lewd ascii roguelikefinally a porn game for my ascendant tastes
why I can't play CDDAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiGMd6aO-sY
>>561053863LARPing is back in style and this one thinks they're convincing anyone"I totally just started <cata fork> and I think it's better than <x fork> which is dumb and obviously worse in every way- btw I've played like 400 hours inside a two week period (14*24=336 btw)"
>>561082613just turn on DSSL5 when you're done
>>561064531just put on rubber gloves? they should be in the evac shelter basement. otherwise, you can find them in a church. i don't know if they get damaged, but, you can stuff them in your pants pocket to quickly put them on, or wear them under some sort of gauntlets.there's loads of gear, later on, that blocks electric shocks on your whole body.
what do we think of Soulash 2?i saw it's on sale. i don't usually play EAslop but it looks good
>>561071483>>561071976I have no idea what you mean by thathttps://api-cdn-us-mp4.rule34.xxx//images/2744/3475815cb684a4716333a19474a08c3f.mp4?12569932
smug roguelikes?
>>561107218That bug greatly exceeds the maximum safe smug levels
>>561107218I have it installed but I haven't played it yet. I really like the art style, it reminds me of Yume Nikki a little bit
>>561053863I've got around 10,000 hours in Cataclysm: The Last Generation and I can confidently say that Worm Girl is a woman.
>>561091749It's an early alpha build of Monster Lily, looks a bit different now. Not actually a porn or erotic game, it's very serious. You're just having a typical bad day in the dungeon. My lifelong goal has been to make a game with a dedicated piss button that stands as a fourth pillar alongside Wizardry, Ultima, and Nethack.
>>561082613it is very joever for me specifically.
explain to me the attack on titan ending so I don't have to read it roguelike
>>561116179>it's very seriousI had a good laugh in the options menu though Also found the silk panties in my first run
I have never beaten a single roguelike
>>561129431but you have beaten your own dick (a rogulike)
>>561075461the best way to deal with those guys is to shoot themI always keep a pistol on my melee characters for that exact purpose
>>561137591Thing is, he mentioned his character had the brawler trait. It's the one that doesn't allow you to use ranged weapons, as a self imposed challenge for the run.
I fucked up a Cata game before big time by misreading Monster Evolution Scaling factor and getting swarmed by Kevlar hulks so I'll ask just to be safeI should turn the number "higher" if I want slower evolution, right?
>>561137984bullwhip time lol>>561138084why would you ever want slower evolution? it's already glacial
>playing dda experimental>crashes>reload >entire map is re-rendered>vehicle is gone>all my loot is gone>all i have is what i was carrying at the time
BNbros I had no idea you had it so good. I tried BN again after 500 hours of DDA and I must say I had more fun in 15 minutes than 15 hours in DDA. I will no longer be a DDA raped slave...
>>561138479Just 'slightly' slower It's more of a placebo than anything
>dda sky islands got "updated">you can no longer bring NPCs you recruit up to your islandI found a refugee center, looted 750 worth of merch in one hour, hired the merc, and took him all the way to the exit portal.and i don't see him.open factions tab, no followers.sucks
It's over
I got back into C:BN this morning and suddenly it's eveningWhat
Grackens, do we need 'em?
>>561144745We bully the DDA fans because we love them and want them to be get out of their abusive relationship
>>561171758*to get out ofJust woke up, not awake yet lol
>>561159896yes hello welcome to cataclysm
Any interesting runs lately anons?
>>561180932>"muh builds!">interesting
>>561183763I never said my build was interesting, relax
>>56118458495% of Achra's gameplay is in the build. After you've set that up it's press tab, or press space, or sometimes change your position a bit before you press tab or space. Achra is the NASCAR "drive fast and turn left" of roguelikes
>>561185191Fair enough
>>561180932I was trying to make the actual naked build with zero items work and I failed like 5 times. It's definitely doable but I didn't have the patience to make it work.
>>561190971have you done the no skills build yet
is there any reason to actually kill a Triffid Heart
>>561192107It reduces the spawns up top IIRC. useful if you don't want some surface structure wrecked and aren't interested in farming the queens for free tree growth
What made DCSS click for you?
>>561194124What do you even mean by click
>>561194236I feel like banging my head against the wall personally when I play it from time to time. Don't know how to git gud essentially.
>>561195154the obtuse parts are picking weapons and armor, skilling your character, and macro strategy about branch and stair choiceyou're probably fucking up one or more of those
>>561191246Not on C32. It's pretty dull anyway so I don't want to bother. The powers are the fun part of the game.
>>561194124Try playing a gnoll fighter, you have enough flexibility to confidently respec at any point you want. Found a good weapon? Use it. Found some good spells? Use them. You'll never be as good as other races when it comes to something they have trained the entire game for, but you will be good enough at anything.
>>561191246Pretty easy to win with no skills using Anroth prestige
>>561198757that's cheating
>>561200195OH I AM SORRY, YOU DIDNT STATED SUCH RESTRICTION ANYWHERE!
>>561198278I know you're trying to make it easy for the guy, but Gnoll Fighter seems like a bad choice compared to any book start. A buckler ain't shit compared to casting level 2 and 3 spells on Dungeon 2.
rogueslops
>get hit with a bane>turn off game>don't have to live with the consequences anymoreIt's just that easy.
>>561215406 what game
>>561218804Any game that has "banes" that can be applied to penalize player characters
>>561218804DCSS added annoying fucking banes that take the place of negative mutations. So now you have to go grind abyss for half an hour to fix it, instead of drinking a potion of mutation.
>>561195154The main thing is understanding how threatening an enemy is to you then not being a murder hobo and leaving things alone. There's a lot of exp available in crawl so ignoring a potentially lethal fight like an early Ogre at the edge of line of sight doesn't impact you long term, this is probably the main thing that people who can't win Crawl don't do. The game is too long to keep putting yourself in situations where you have a even a small chance of dying because eventually you'll lose to the rng.Next is when you know you can win a fight normally or with a consumable, ability, is that will it cause problems afterwards. This is why MiBe is good to learn because you can win most fights for the majority of the game letting you learn about more enemies, but you also learn that you can't just berserk constantly. Once you're slowed and can't berserk again you'll be killed by any enemies that the noise of your previous fight attracted, so you have to check how far you are from safety beforehand and consider luring things back towards the stairs. The other related basic tactic is not to walk towards enemies you've just seen and to always let them come to you. Walking towards enemies reveals more tiles from the fog of war and makes it more likely you'll spot other enemies which will get involved in your fight.Skilling is less important than tactics for the most part, even if you're optimally choosing skills to level you'll still die quickly to dangerous enemies if they found you slowed after a berserk. Stealth is extremely valuable and probably the main difference between bad and good players, good ones will get more stealth and start earlier usually immediately where it has more value, though you can forgo it if you're just going to wear plate armor as soon as you find it. But Fighting is the most important skill for every character even mage backgrounds, frail species and those with negative aptitude and you should be levelling it pretty much all the time.
Bros I had some sleep and what can i say ... I am having a blast! I'm not going to roguelike myself soon I think.Roguelikes for these fleeting blissful moments?
how do i get good at ToME
>>561235013learn about inscriptions (infusions or runes), search towns for themThe usual set up is 1 for survivability (healing/regen/shield), 1 movement, one dispel (shatter rune)Play long range classes like archmage or archer and practice never staying in enemy attack range
>>561235639but i want to play a melee guyranged attacks are cowardly
>>561235869Play good melee classes like mindslayer or arcane blade and try to always be mindful about your shields skill (like forcefield or AB's passive shield). And when things go wrong, movement infusion or teleport away.
>>561235869Uhm, based?!
>ask the developer to fix an annoying bug >UMMM SWEATY I AM BUSY, I HAVE A FAMILY I HAVE A JOB PLUS I DON'T CARE ANYMORESince when is family more important then roguelikes? Now I have to go through spaghetti code to fix it myself
>>561237428what did you expect from a guy who doesn't play roguelikes?
kevin is god
>>561249208yeah
>>561140726the consequences of the catclysm have made you travel back in time
not a roguelike day
I’ve been working on a game for the past month, got to the point where I feel comfortable posting it for peoples thoughts and opinions on the gameplay, might be a little buggy for its first release.The game takes place in 1,400 BC, I’m going for a biblical timeline while also being as archeologically correct as possible.I’ve always loved Dwarf Fortress Adventure Mode, so I was trying to go for that type of vibe, with a world that feels alive and is always changing, also trying to go for a mount and blade type of party system and eventually a way to command troops in a similar way.If you’re interested in playing I would suggest giving the guide a look before doing your first play through as you will die quickly if you have no food or water.https://nonaveragejoe.itch.io/twilight-of-bronze
>>561273006saw your post on reddit I like the style
>>561273507awesome, I’m working on an update right now
>>561273615But I have no idea what the fuck am I supposed to do, why when I enter a village soldiers always kill everybody
>>561275880To be fair Qud still hasn't fixed that problem after 2 decades of development.
ElonaPlus update added a sexual mosquito woman
>>561278809Good
>>561275880That I’m not sure, currently you can enter a tile with enter but its not very fleshed out, you “enter” citys by pressing e
>>561276667It's not a problem, it's a feature
Hi!any ElinAnon here? i need some help
>>561285060explain your problem and we'll tell you why you're retarded
my problem is that i play roguelikes
O struggler...
I've been trying for hours to get this build going. If it works right I will one shot the King with just Chamakana. But this is how easy it is to lose a Chamakana run. One stray application of death damage because the lightning staff randomly chose to shoot at a wasp instead of the boss next to me, and now my Chamakana is disabled. I deal 500k damage per Chamakana hit and I can't use it on the mid-boss.
>>561290596>picrelI remembered that the game Octopath Traveler COTC has nice sprites i could use but i don't know how to replace the main character and npc sprites
ah yes the "owl men" are thieving from kaumo again, looks like its time for some strength versus dex
dex beats str actuallly
>just discovered you can now actually use exercise equipment to train in Bright Nightstime to lift things up and put them down until I am strong enough to roam the streets, silent except for the sounds of my tree trunk sized thighs rubbing together through my red candy apple jeans, throwing refrigerators at anything that dares interrupt my Herculean labor of a morning stroll while blasting Barbie Girl on my ups enabled mp3 player>vehiclefags will never know such divine glory
>>561235992is bulwark bad?i've mostly been playing that, but magic damage gets pretty dangerous later, it seems resistance is capped
>>561309764does it actually boost str?
>>561310340Bulwark is bad yeah, it has decent defenses and offenses (a counterstrike Assault will blow enemies up) but it has the issues you observed, pretty much no damage mitigation against magical attacks. It also has poor mobility (only Rush to get close to enemies).A class like Rogue can achieve better defense (Trained Reaction works vs all damage types, wear robes for all resist stat)), not forced to play melee (fan of knives things first) and better mobility (tumble/disengage), wider arsenal of disables (garotte will silence most arcane casters). It's a much better class in comparison, as long as you're willing to learn to press more than 5 buttons.
>>561310630what about the other two you mentioned?although i don't dislike rogue, stylistically i would prefer not to play a sneaky cunt
This is why you shouldn't play melee in Achra.
>>561311512>MindslayerStarts out slow and scales WILL/CUN instead of STR/DEX. Starts out a bit weaker than regular berserker/bulwark, but after maxing out Resonant Focus it's just a better class. The telekinetic weapon is just a free attack every turn and it works even if you're frozen/confused.Main points of interests are Forcefield, which more or less makes you invincible for a brief amount of time, so make sure to use it when in melee range vs randbosses. Frenzied Focus allows you to just clear out entire groups of enemies, although it's still recommended to 1v1 whenever possible. Kinetic Surge (requires unlock) is just a dash that also digs out walls (you rarely want to throw enemies around).>Arcane BladeStart out slow but you can just level lightning and float 3 points in Chain Lightning and play Archmage until lvl 20. Once then, grab a staff (staves have +damage on procs, which affects Arcane Combat), then use Arcane Strike/Stunning Blow to just proc lightning like crazy.You have Blink/Teleport to get out of dangerous situations.Stack spellpower (unlike other melee classes, who only need a bigger stick and maxed attribute). Get a clear mind torque to deal with silences (or a mental cleanse infusion).
>>561312421neat, this is a lot of helpful insight.before i try them out, are there any other classes i should look into? i noticed that you can unlock classes, and i've unlocked a couple already
>>561313073>OozemancerYou shouldn't have unlocked this, since the unlock is late game, but it's seen as a pretty easy mode class as it's very tanky.>SolipsistThis is also a random unlock but it's from a lvl 20 zone (Caldera). It's a well rounded caster, psionic can't be silenced and they still have plenty of range. Has several sleep abilities, which is good if you just want to run away. Has Inner Demons, which creates clones of an enemy, so you can use it to wreck anything that isn't sleep immune.
>>561309536It appears these highly agile marksmen had the misfortune of not spawning with any bows. I just sort of shot them as they came out of the woods one by one
>>561310568I thought it improves stamina
what an odd unit of currency
>>561314905I will give you ten bear asses!
>>561314514rigged. dex would have won
>>561312016Your 5000 speed?Your Asik malak?Your Astroasassin?
>>561235013I like playing as a Berserker. It feels so good when the game starts raining down shitloads of damage, you pull out the 'Unstoppable' trump card, survive against all odds and turn the tables on your opponents.>how do i get good at ToMEUkruk is the first difficulty spike you encounter. It requires extensive preparation and skill. Once you can consistently defeat it in most games, you're ready.
>>561310568it trains the athletics skill, which lets you swim better, reduces all encumbrance values, and improves your staminaat high athletics you can be significantly encumbered for long periods of time and suffer no ill effects
>>561343734>reduces all encumbrance values, and improves your stamina>at high athletics you can be significantly encumbered for long periods of time and suffer no ill effectsproofs?
>>561273006>movement supports vi keysnice
>>561344550on second thought I'm not sure about that stamina improvement thing (I have not done enough testing), but I'm very sure at the encumbrance thing. Look at your encumbrance values before and after debug changing your athletics skill.
Do people like Angband style base towns or does it always make the game too scummy? It seems hard to balance it with perma death, either it's a pointless waste of time and you can complete the dungeon without going back or you're incentivised to drag stuff back to shops and make use of whatever else is there.
I'm going to kms
>>561346927I think an angband style base camp that you can shop at once at the start with a set of starting gold and then never see again could be fun
>>561347309Casual Friday?
>>561347309you may retire when ready
>>561346927In tome4 you can sell stuff without visiting towns. I don't mind towns personally.
I had to savescum the Necropolis control center. Human NPCs with guns are brutal.
>>561351331I mean, you didn't have to.
>>561351367I guess not.I wanted to kill them though.
Is streets of rogue a roguelike?
>>561351331>>561351436you uh, you know those guys are supposed to be friendly, right
>>561357065That's why I took the Psychopath trait
>>561346927I just like having a place to hoard all my fancy loot
>>561362137You have to horde in town in the Bands because of the levels despawning though right.
>>561346927I think Telengard did it first, though it's basically just a menu where you can do a handful of things
>>561309593>>561309764the duality of man
My recent Cata playthrough has turned into that one Malcolm in the middle bit where Hal is replacing the lightbulb >Found a nice Humvee>but I need to replace the tires>Need to get a bottle jack>try to make a bottle jack since I'll be smithing anyway>need crucible>can't find crucible>make crucible>need tongs>can't find tongs>can't make tongs because you need tongs to make tongs>also can't find a swage and die setNow I'm too heavily invested in fixing this fucking thing to pack up and go to another town in the vain effort of finding those things
>>561374406you can make both tongs and swage and die sets from scratch in BNhumvees aren't the greatest imo, they're too big to use as light transport and too small to use as a mobile base
>>561363615Yeah, its always painful when you have to leave artifacts behindThankfully some *bands let you open your house remotely, i think PCB and or FuryBand have this
finally found some A7 laser rifles and I forgot how much they absolutely chew up zombies when put on automatic vehicle turrets and told to just chew shit upI'm running out of battery power though
>>561308925 (Me)I managed to do it by myself but the sprite was too small and now i have a fucking midget
>all facets deleted
Anyone played "Shadow of the Wyrm"? It seems like something I could waste my newly unemployed life on for a few weeks
>>561408036This is the developer. This looks like a man I can trust. >no package for ubuntuI'll try to compile it it's up to luck
>Hey caves of qud looks fun>Unity engineFOR FUCK SAKE
>>561351331Does Necropolis have any worthwhile loot? I feel like BN has some locations that are just barren.
>>561400807pocket prince
>>561416776Nothing exceptional. There's some CBMs in the lab area, some electronics parts in the robot maintenance area. Not worth it for the loot, considering how many ghouls you have to kill.It's pretty fun as a dungeon, though. I wish labs looked more like this, with more open spaces and a clear concept for what the spaces are used for.
>>561432397JUST FUCKYOURSISTERALREADY
>>561432397cute
>>561432397This feels like a reference to something
>>561432397>no scenario where you start with your hot sisterWhat's even the point?
>>561440050You could mod that in, would only be JSON editing I think
>>561432581Knocking up your sister during the apocalypse sounds like a risky gamble
>>561443428You gotta repopulate the earth somehow. Do you want mankind to die out?
>>561443428It's literally how it worked with Adam and eve
>>561443428especially when it's probably blob induced and she's going feral
hogwart
I ate two pieces of butter in DDA and threw up instantly, who even came up with this shit...
>>561461102You
>>561461102I didn't realise how strong Atomic coffee was compared to regular 3 cups of it to hydrate before lab plunderingI was up for two days straight
Speaking of, are hard drugs useful in Cata again or are they still basically useless?I remember way back in the day the dominant strat was to snort Adderall and camp out a bookstore for the first couple of days but they nerfed it because drugs are bad m'kay
>>561315568You know about the bear?
It seems local korean man is literally cooking
>>561468721And for other things too.
>>561468891
polish p10 bump
Just die already accept your fate of being eaten by /indie/
Dying is a part of roguelikes; we accepted that fate ages ago. It changes nothing!
>>561462485isn't atomic coffee irradiated?
>new version of BN fixed the terrible lag when loading submaps>added in more furfag shitshame
>>561488630The game gives you a lighter for a reason anon
>>561488497Not that I've noticed
>>561488497It gives you a small amount of radiation, generally not enough to worry about unless you're also worrying about radiation from somewhere else too
>>561488630>doesn't make negro NPCs wear the sparkledog suit and the LGBTQSOS++ flags and then proceed to double tap them on the back of the head and leave their corpses to rot at the entrance of his basebakaThe day we can have bodies dangling from ropes will make everything perfect.
>>561490701least deranged 4chan poster
>>561490701>The day we can have bodies dangling from ropes will make everything perfect.The problem is storing NPC data in a furniture that must be next to a tree.Otherwise it would be just jsoning. Maybe some day with lua.
>>561494750Just make the rope a pocket
>>561061232is whales cata worth playing unironically
>>561504251It's fun, but very buggy and there's not nearly as much to it. Still definitely worth a go, IMO. Of the modern forks, Bright Nights is the closest in spirit.
bigga
>>561194124I mean it's a pretty simple game. I can't really remember the process of learning it as it was so long ago now. I think I found a branch guide and learned to manage my own skill XP and things just took off from there. I dont know how much Mino Zerker has changed but frankly the idea of NOT being able to win with that combination is strange to me. Press O and Tab, and zerk at the vaguest hint of difficulty and you win. Vaults 5, the lungs, or getting unlucky with resistances is really all that can challenge you in a standard 3 rune run with MiBe
I feel like having an adventure. Anyone got any good recommendations for someone who's only really played DCSS? I know TOME is supposed to be really good but I dunno, its abilities remind me of WoW.
>>561408036It has good writing/atmosphere but i found the controls clunky and the levels boring.>>561273006checking this out
>>561507994the biggest change from Whales to BN is the change from ambient spawns to static spawnsAmbient spawns have a very different vibe and way of playing. Keeping your noise level below 60 is absolutely paramount.
>>561514904>I know TOME is supposed to be really good but I dunno, its abilities remind me of WoW.Yeah it's an odd duck for a roguelike, being focused so heavily on having a huge array of crazy powers and managing their cooldowns and shit. Weird fit for a game that was originally supposed to be about Tolkien where magic powers and shit were rare and usually subtle.
>>561514904TOME is the best if you are in it for the gameplay. If you aren't, you should try reading a novel
This time, I'm finally gonna complete a run in ToME.What race/class should I play?
>>561527195Play Archer and stay max range from everythingIf you die in melee range it's your fault thoughbeitesque
>>561527310I've got a great feeling about this run. Found this in a chest right at the very start
>>561528192>tries to complete 1 run>wears Manikin
>>561432397Just add sex to the game already, I don't know why they keep skirting around it like this.
>>561531250Because that will bring in the coomers, and nobody wants that
>open door>get 1shot
Sometime ago an anon here said he wanted to make the One Piece roguelikeI have a feeling that anon was Peter Thiel
>>561468721>>561468891>>561469059But why?
I managed to deal 80% of the king's HP with Chamakana. This is too hard...
>>561543852woagh, viscacha
>>561551339>viscacha>how I go on living knowing I will not beat one roguelike
>>561551386it's how I go on living knowing that I have beaten an roguelikes and don't need to prove anything to anybody
now sasquatch can play halo 3
>>561574306good
I was exploring a collapsed tower with my wearable professional camera and some hanging guts threw me into a puddle and broke it. I've been trying to snap the best quality picture of every enemy I dared to fight up close, and this is the second time I've broken my camera this run. The first one was to raw damage so it broke without leaving anything behind. Is there any way to get the SD card with the photos from the shorted camera? I assume using a soldering iron or something won't unbreak shorted electronics, right? I notice I can disassemble it in the disassembly menu. Will that give me the SD card with the data or is the entire thing junk now?
>>561582373I'm not familiar with the electronics breaking mechanics of DDA, but I suspect it's gone for good. You should regularly back up your photos on an external SD card.
Peeking is broken in BN how do I fix it
BN is broken how do I fix it
>>561591812>>561591496wait until the pr with fix gets merged
Starting ToME for the first time. Is it reasonable to just go straight to Nightmare/Roguelike, or is the game gonna toss a bunch of knowledge checks at me that will force a loss without prior knowledge? I'm going to do this anyways because my autism requires me to always play on the highest available difficulty setting, but I'd like to know how often I can expect to restart a run.
>>561599193Like any other roguelike you'd need to learn the bullshit parts that need special attention or you die. Isn't that part of the charm?
>>561599193I don't remember any real knowledge check encounters in ToME, it's pretty hack and slashySo long as your build isn't shit and you know how to play your character you'll be fine
>>561617254What I remember of Tome is getting chain CC'd by all the hard enemies. But then I never beat it so maybe it's a skill issue on my part.
my lass is all gassy and i dunno why>>561599193i'm new so my advice is worthless, but what killed almost all my characters was poking the "interesting" things like graves, sealed doors, strange statues etc. finally made some progress on this character by ignoring anything dodgy and clearing absolutely everything "tier 1" > "tier 2" etc. it will be a bit knowledge check-y in the sense of not knowing what level range a quest area might suddenly through you into, but that's the most of it. i would expect to die from exploring in the wrong place with any dungeon crawler type game until i understood a sensible flow, 2bh.
new stonesharthttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/625960/view/502853084910717104?l=english
>>561621814chat is this real
elkcellent
>>561621814I don't know anything about this game but half the reviews being "the save system sucks" because they lost too much progress when they died is funny. There's no space anymore for a mainstream "traditional" roguelike.
>>561649409>Couple of QoL options that would make this better for a pleb like me:1) Quicksave/daddy saves - it's a single player game, give people with real-life obligations an option to progress without having to spend most of time on running back and forth to saves. Sleeping bag is a step in the right direction, but single use makes it barely any better.. I wouldn't mind having a multple-use sleeping bag, but with a risk of losing part of coins in held inventory. One can make argument about save scum, but it's already the case by just running back and forth to nearby camp to R&R. Save those of us peasants with little time to game so we can spend it on cool tactical battles instead of clicking and scrolling through local maps.>daddy savesit's so over
>>561649513Is that when daddy tells you to stop playing video games and come eat dinner?
>>561653104who knows, but it's a turn based game you can simply evoke feet
I'm 100% black
>>561660919what roguelike do you play
What can you even do with the portals in cata?
>>561681463run awaythey're just ambient hazards that spawn fucked up horrors and wreck your car if you're not looking where you're driving
>>561685830Eh, makes sense, hoped they had more going on with them though
Understand that nobody cares if it screams, everybody screams. Accept it. Surrender. Modulate. Find. Adapt. Rebuild. Or die screaming.
Any codefags know where I'd go diving in Bright Nights code if I wanted to see the actual concrete numbers behind various traits? I tried checking the mutations json but it just lists the mutation, if it's enabled or not, prerequisites and what it cancels out, not the actual game logic it alters.
>>561705159You can make a github account and search the code for words for 5 minutes until github flags your account for having used a disposable email.
>>561705765I have an account, I mean exactly where in the code should I look?
>>561705159>if I wanted to see the actual concrete numbers behind various traits?The mutation checks are all over the place, depending which mechanics they affect.So you have to either search through github file by file. Or clone the repo and use an IDE to find the instance of a particular mutation.>>561705765Nigger you can see code without an account https://github.com/cataclysmbn/Cataclysm-BN/tree/main/src
>>561706080But you would have to manually check all the files instead of searching for the keywords you're looking for.
>>561706274You can clone repos without a need for an account.
>>561681463In Bright Nights there's a central portal that you can close to win the game
>Cavemen banging rocks together in hopes of making fireClone it to your home folder and grep for keywords, dummies
>>561707806now try that again, in English
>>561709071$ git clone <repo>$ git grep <keyword>That's all you get, my man, I got coding shit to do
>>561709584>$ git clone <repo>where do I type this?
>>561709835In your terminal of choice, obviously
>>561717818What is a terminal in this context?
>>561718524You go outside, find a bus and follow it until you find the secret location where all the buses go back to at night to sleep and mate.
>>561705159chatgpt codex has a free plan and will be by far the easiest way and it will also have more patience than anyone here to answer questions
is there a worse name for an ancient artifact than "stoneshard"
>>561738860why do they look for it
yo help me decide on thisI have some effects that come in pairs, meaning they negate each other when applied.I have the choice to either name them separately and maybe confuse people or use a generic scheme to indicate that they form a pairExample>Haste/Slow, Smart/Dumbvs>Speed UP/Speed DOWN, Intelligence UP/Intelligence DownWhich way is better?
>>561746706Call the spells Haste and Slow, but put green up arrows or red down arrows next to the stat that has been modified. Or even just red/green text might work if your UI isn't too colorful.
>>561749206alright
How large can Cata saves get anyway?
>>561751076My longest running save was 1.5 gigs when I was forced to retire it due to the map corruption bug
>>561751076My record is 71 jiggabytes
>>561766150Jesus, I don't think I have enough room on my C: drive for thatHow long was it, 10 in game years?
>>561599193So far I've learned:>Saves are almost completely worthless>You NEED to always have access to to a teleport, a way to cleanse status effects, and digging>You can suffocate in the sandworm cave>The best way to deal with escorts is to teleport ahead and kill everything before they have a chance to keel over to a stiff breeze>You can get dispelled as an Archmage and suddenly die immediately
>>561767037I don't know in-game years but it was several real life years playing on and off, always migrating to new territory when updates break old maps
I hate fags & foids
>>561768934What are some roguelikes that meaningfully acknowledge your character being female or being a fag? Elin and Elona don't count.
>>561768934roguestatelikes for this feel?
>Makes you deaf from behind a wall while you where just exploringI fucking hate these cunts like you wouldn't believe
>>561771374Brogue
I'm never making it am I
>>561782253Most don't
>>561782253Even if you make it, I'm going to destroy it, so don't bother
>>561408036It just came to mind today. I tried playing it long ago but it didn't seem intuitive. Maybe I'll give it a show now since it's had updates since.
There'll never be any point to "forks". If you wanna play CDDA, just fukkking play CDDA. No need to play "forks" FFS. If you don't wanna play CDDA, then don't.
we should all just play original whales' cataclysm and not some weird dda fork
I'm playing QuasimorphI left Mars so now I have the Quasimorph counter to deal withWhat happens if it goes super high? Does it spawn enemies out of nowhere? Because I really really like making a huge loot pile of literally every items on the level in front of the elevator.
>>561790249Eat shit, Kevin, your fork sucks
>>561794515enemies are not spawned out of nowhere, dead and living enemies will be turned into stronger enemies depending on what planet you are near, the higher the meter the higher chance that the higher tier enemies will spawn and they get additional strength depending on how high the meter is. At the highest level all enemies are instantly transformed and a boss is spawned, all enemies and the boss will know where you are and charge towards you once this happens.
>>561801410>dead enemiesUh really, so I can't clear the floors and go back safely to gather the loot? I guess it's still possible for short missions
I do not fear the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks. I fear the man who has practiced 1 kick, 10,000 times.
fart
Has magiclysm gotten anything new recently?
Has anyone done the CDDA pizzaiolo npc quest where you burn down a restaurant? It's one of those horrible escort quests where you can't even control the npc, that once again almost got me killed. I managed to finish it, but he has another task for me now, and he's not saying what it is before I agree. Saying something like "let's keep dunking on these rival restaurants". Anyone know what he wants? If it's another escort quest, I think I'll pass.
What ruins Cataclysm for me is how slow reading books is
Well reading book is slow IRL too
>>561790249You know CDDA is a fork right? You play the original Cata like God intended.
I never met anyone that reads books and is not a giant faggot
But enough about your weekly rainbow book club activity
>>561767315Digging is not needed. Finished the game twice.-Frost Archmage with Disruption Shield
>>561790637>>561844631troll like posts
trollikes
I like rogues (female). I like rogues a whole lot. I wish there was a game that would let me express how much I like rogues.
>>561858929This onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w869Avr_fXI
>>561374406just scavange for the bottle jack. it's a common item
>>561859884is Fifa04 a roguelike?
>>561468891>steel sword with nail reinforcementshow does this work
>>561524506Second this. i've been reading novels recently.I recently finished "Reverend Insanity" and recommend it.
>>561863106>In May 2019, the novel was banned in mainland China for allegedly "promoting unhealthy values of violence, cruelty, and extreme individualism" and was removed from all major domestic platforms. The author has released no new chapters since the ban.Roguelike for this feel?
>>561649513>needs quicksave because little time to gamejust walk away from the computer? and then come back later? why does he specifically need quicksaves, you can just minimize the window. you can leave it running for days in the background. does he have no ram or somethingam i the only one who never reboots his computer
>>561718524it's your shell, commonly something like bash. Try M-F2 or S-r. Or just type 'terminal' or 'shell' into your launcher.
>>561751076Biggest one i've ever seen was 2.4 gigs.>>561767315it sounds like you are having fun, anon. nice!>>561771453>not wearing earplugs anywaynot getting stunned/slowed > having hearing>>561827159i've gotten it a few times but it has always glitched out in some way.>>561863193you should read it, it's great. the fang yuan show is peak
>>561863193fault
>>561863020hammer them through the handle and impale your hands on them so you don't lose grip
Intermittently playing a very bad day runKeep forgetting the last time I took antibiotics (writing is for cowards)I will nurse this infection until the end of the earth
gg
>>561190971i got quite far using Paragon and Yu's gift to create a single hemoglobin super soldier minion. With some smarter skill choices it probably could have won (going so far in to repulsion wasn't really worth it). Granted im not on c32.
>>561767315guy called drybe on yt has good class guides and tips if you ever feel like your bashing your head against a wall.
>>561869729By writing do you mean physical notes or ingame diary entires? Ingame entries are fast to jot down if you want that. Also, aren't antibiotics listed as a health effect? I know some things aren't, like antiparasitic drugs, but if you take things like antidepressants, antifungals, antiasthmatic drugs and such, they're listed as an effect in the @ or N windows when active.
>>561880070Paragon is a decent idea, but I don't think Yu is the way to go for Paragon. You would get more buff stacks by having 100 speed to apply stacks fast instead of applying a shitload of stacks one time and then waiting ages to do it again.
>>561790637Zaimoni's nice but it crashes when you look at it. That makes it truer to whalescata than any fork.
>>561883730They are listed but they don't list when they wear off
>>561771453power armor or shooter's earmuffs at all timesthat, or the bionic ears if you can find themwearable earplugs are an acceptable substitute but yeah you need to see them first and they need to not be screaming at a random bird from a place you can't see
>>561883730I think you need to have blood analysis for that
>>561880070I can't be bothered reinstalling but this would probably be straightforward with Yu just stacking poise with Ihra and whatever the class is that gives +50% stacks. Grab a bunch of projection, the thing that TPs them away from you on hit, a single point in astral kinesis and Asi malek for clearing mobs and then the inflame+healing blood skill. Stand still or prayer triggers stand ground and projection, the projection hits a bunch of times and each hit adds a load of poise from the martial+astral prestige which also adds poise scaling damage to astral damage iirc. As long as you don't get tethic monk'd you'd be fine.
>>561183763yes
I can't get over Stoneshard's 40 FPS limit
>>561916467Some devs are absolutely deranged.
eyes cant see more than 40fps anyway
>>561916467>Frames per second Not a roguelike
>graphicsNot a roguelike
I got this dream where I was adventuring through some kind of dungeon temple and some watery mechanism flooded the area ... and filled it with shit. Like it was attached to all the toiletry in the area.I think somebody should make a roguelike based on this concept because it legit scared me.
>>561938860Binding of Isaac
Do women play roguelikes?
>>561846564t. Andrew Tate
>>561952593Roguelikes about turning yourself into human clickbait?
>mfw we're on page 10
>>561138084I don't know if they changed it in later versions but isn't the default evolution speed set to 2? So you literally have to just move it only once to 1 if you want the slowest evolution speed. I have it set at 1 myself atm since I'm still learning the game
>>561916467Whoever is developing that garbage game has thought of the most antifun features imaginable. 1. Grinding is mandatory2. You have to grind to get nothingburger equipment. This continues even in endgame3. The enemies get to be way way stronger than you for free with quite literally 0 (zero) ways for you to deal with it4. Content for the game is at a complete standstill despite money from fans being in limbo on it for more than half a decade nowYou should literally just play something else. I tolerate playing a lot of games even some blazing hot garbage ones and Stoneshard is simply not one of them
>>561885569that's what projective link, amplify pain and roil was for. they all activate from the hemogoblin doing stuff so my speed doesnt really matter but yeah its worth experimenting with some other gods and summons.>>561916467there is a speedup mod (as well as other QOL like autowalk). its a bit jank to setup but very worth if you are playing the game for any long period of time.
>>561961340read that option's help text again, setting it lower makes it faster
I keep finding gatling guns but not the hopper/drum magazine for it
>>561969040gg I made the game so much harder wow lmfao strangely enough I've only ever seen a single hulk with this evolution speed despite playing for more than 2 seasons now.
>>561973239yeah, hulks are very rarethere are many branching paths from tough zombie to hulk, so only a small quantity get filtered down to hulk and most everything else ends up as something elseeven Brute has five different things it can turn into (I think wrestlers are more dangerous than hulks, actually)
>>561976829An ichor brute can become an ichor brute?
>>561977206yes there are many circular upgrade paths and very few dead endsthis is why after ten years or whatever you'll have towns full of hulks, gasoline zombies, and wrestlers
>>561021125>Cata>Many commonly used tools and weapons still use the obsolete "generic steel" material, making repairing impossible because everything has a steel grade now>This issue has being going on for months
>>561979181have you tried playing a version of the game that isn't ass
kevin nosewater
I prefer BN, but the holster system is way more painful than pockets
>>561617494Same was happening to me until I realized that inscriptions are more important than anything else. Attrition or getting one shot is almost never what kills you. What kills you is getting CC'd repeatedly or getting stuck in a bad positition. Being able to remove or ignore CC on demand or turn into the flash and leave is how you avoid those situations, and your overall survivability skyrockets depending on how frequently and how long you can do that.
>>561979181Submit the fix? Isn't that how development works? If you just wait you'll get whatever someone else finds important.
Rate my fit
>>562005890Green/10.
>>561996538Yeah I was playing a class that only has movement abilities to go in, not out. Teleporting away from enemies is probably OP in that game.
>>562005890Tier whore
I've completely forgotten how to deal with Nymphs stealing yo shit
>>562027574Don't awaken them. If they wake up, don't let them into melee range. If you can, carry a mirror and apply it at her, she'll steal that and run off leaving your other items untouched. I also tend to carry worthless glass around early on as theft targets just in case. Nymphs seem to like the rhinestones
booger
I died for some glitchy bullshit but my autism wants me to scrap the save anywayI need your approval to savescum /rlg/pls tell me it's ok
>>562052224If you think it's a bug, then you can go ahead and feel no shame.
>>562052224dumb fucking nigger
>>562052793>>562052850The dichotomy of man and life.I'll flip a coin then, true roguelike spirit
>>561863106Webnovels are just about the only other hobby as long-term sisyphean and pointless as traditional roguelikes so good job on taking that next step in your evolution anonImmortality Simulator in Wuxiaworld is a lot like RI if you can get over the first few arcs and the MC's ridiculous cheat (he speaks a lot about having unlimited resets and things like that but ends up actually using it about as much as FY did the Spring Autumn Cicada) but that's an ongoing translation and all previous ones were ass. Legitimately a very well done setting once you start consistently getting information about the ancient cultivation world though
>>562053059The second guy didn't say no, he just insulted you
>>562053305He wants me to qyy, so says his low tier god gif image
>>562053163I read a couple chapters of IS but it didn't hook me. FY's story is a very human struggle for survival, he is always on the wire, scheming and plotting and fighting to barely live another day, while the whole world plots to suppress him and his ambition. But IS doesn't have that kind of tension at least not in the chapters I read. By the way, there is also a webnovel about being isekai'd into a roguelike. it is unfinished but i enjoyed it.
>>562052224the glitches are part of the game, you need to expect them and plan for it
>>562057486It's also likely that it was intended behavior and they programmed it wrong on purpose, as a joke.It doesn't matter.Tails says my borged up cephalopod kung fu master froze to dead on a summer night while laying on top of a bundle of clothes because he stepped on a puddle one his way home.
>>561979181>has being going on for monthsit's been at least a year.btw you can make generic steel in a crucible
>>562058792Well at least that wasn't your fault. I'm newish at the game and my character recently almost died because I had him sleep without an alarm in late june when it was particularly hot, wearing the usual equipment. I think his torso temperature was pink the whole time, and the rest was in the high yellows. Woke up 9 hours later, the last 3 hours being "dehydrated". It was still mega hot, so he had to stand on the roof of the second floor buck naked for like 30 minutes before the water kicked in and the dehydrated status cleared, it was the only place where body temperature was green and even then it was like 25ish. Sweating is no joke. I'm thinking of placing a steel frame with a vehicle cooler or something in the room just in case, but I'm not sure if that would be effective for an actual room and not a small car.
>>562060805Pop an AC unit in a window
Can't even just ignore the furfag shit anymore smdh
>>562061710>drink "potion that turns you into a dog">dream of being a dog>why is this happening to meeeee chuddah save me
>>562061710Nigga you're am Insta thot lmao
>>562061679You mean those "cooling unit" furniture items? I'm not sure if they actually work, you can't even build them using the construction menu, so I think those are just spare part pinatas. Dunno how temperature is actually handled in cata, but I don't think it's like SS13 where gases and temperature are actually updated per tile each tick. I get the impression it's more of a primary ambient temperature that depends on outside temp, whether it's indoors, z level, wind if you're outside and such, plus a stack of contributing factors like proximity to burning fire and "hot air"/"cold air" tiles. Or do you mean 3 tile vehicles going through a window, with a "cold air" spawning vehicle cooler tile inside, and an exhaust muffler tile outside?
>>562058792>savescumming >in a sandbox game>when it has NPCs of life savingliteral fucking mongoloid
>>562063987>You mean those "cooling unit" furniture items?No, the A/C unit you can build into a window. Wait, you're not still playing DDA, are you?
>>562064381Cata TLG NPCs are good for nothing loot pinatas. Won't even react when I riddle them with bullets. Once one tried to shoot a gun and the game crashed. Wormgirl can't code.
>>562064807>Wait, you're not still playing DDA, are you?I am. I like it. pls no bulli. I may try another fork at some point, but I like what I'm playing now. I dunno if it's actually true, but I've heard mention that some other forks don't even have the pocket system. I guess storage works as just volume capacity you get to fill there or something. I know inventory management isn't something most people enjoy, but I like my bag packing simulator. Although I recently bought an empty "pressurized tank" from some vendor because I thought it might be useful at some point or something, and with it in my backpack I bulk picked up the other junk I bought using the "pick up" window while unloading my car. Ended up with 12 lumps of mild steel in the pressurized tank with no way of unloading it. I mean it's just junk anyway and I'm sure if I ever even use the lumps, crafting will auto draw them from the tank if it's nearby, but it's still kinda funny.
>>562060805Does sleeping in a basement not help?
>>562065390the code is there dumbass, recruit one for a free livestupid ape nog
>>562067406Not him but I once slept on an evac shelter basement without a mouth warmer and literally just died to a mouth frostbite since my char refused to wake up lmfaoooo ever since then I refuse to sleep in a basement forever I can't afford to pay the memory/tedium tax of always remembering to wear appropriate clothing whenever I wanna sleep
>>562067406It's cooler underground so it should, but the particular house I'm crashing at doesn't have a basement. Nice second floor though. I suppose I could make my friendlies jackhammer out a small underground room or something. Will definintely consider doing that if it gets any hotter past june, thanks.
>>562067618I don't want to play as some candyass randomly generated npc, get the fuck out of here with that
>>562056695What is the game in the image
New to cata here, can someone please summarise the differences between CDDA, CBN and CTLG? Not sure which one is best and everyone seems to have different opinions.
>>562074487dda is the base game, the others are meme forks of it that you can try when you get tired of it
my queen
>>562052224tell us what happened, anon
>>562063987join us
>>562074487BN is the closest to what Cataclysm used to be, but has new stuff and bug fixesDDA has even more and different new stuff but some of the new stuff makes the game worse instead of betterTLG was made by somebody who saw DDA's new and worse stuff and decided they could make it even worse and leaned into it hard.I think you should play BN first.
>>562081395NTADoes BN have that bullshit where failing to hack a computer terminal spawns a security bot that instantly kills you with a barrage of bullets in a turn?I remember that being in the older Cataclysm versions.
>>562082998I'm going to be honest with you, I haven't played with lab computers without having at least 5 computers in a decade, so I don't knowspawning a talon in melee range isn't even that dangerous though, just melee it to death
>>562082998Just kill the bot and enjoy your free ammo?
>>562082998sometimes, most of the time it's just the console shutting down and/or you getting shockedbut like the anon above says, just don't fuck with computers without finishing computing 301 minimum
>>562080636I sort of posted it already but>be playing tlg, cata's fun (tm) fork>finally get a run off the ground after getting wrecked by basic zombies and ferals N times>reach summer, night vision cbm + silent tentacle feet makes night raiding a breeze>it's almost morning, gotta leave the city>find a church, \ all the clothes lying around onto a bench and press $>look at status bars: comfortable and at full health, slightly drowsy>press yes>fall asleep>temperature drops to chilly almost immediately>then to very cold, health starts droppingMind you, this was during summer on a sunny day>my retarded squid refuses to wake up from the cold>he also refuses to use the clothes I dropped on the tile for warmth>dumb fucking game saves while this is happening>FAULTEDI had to edit the game files to save the character, but lowering myself to cheating feels like letting the game winMaybe I should just play some a good game
>>562083753>>562083468So if I'm fast enough, enemies can't use their range weapons if I'm in melee range?I didn't know that.
>>562087796From what I recall there's kind of a wake up lag before they start blasting, not sure how much time though.
wtf are these prices
>>562094367thanks obama
>>562094367>Gozag's Platinum ReserveThere are a couple of themed shops like that, the gimmick of that specific one is being super overpriced. You can also find a "one of a kind rings" one where you can find EV/AC rings with modifiers other than the default ones since they reworked them and other stuff that doesn't normally spawn
>>562087796NPCs can't aim if you're hitting them in the face fast enough (because NPCs use reciprocal mechanics to players), but monsters don't have this penaltyyou can also use martial arts to disarm NPCs and cannot disarm monstersbut mostly monsters don't use their special attacks very often and you can just EMP (with the EMP bionic) or shoot or melee bots faster than they can shoot back if you can attack them quickly enoughuse an MP4 or M16A4 or coilgun to test that out against some light turrets while wearing full survivor armor or better to test it outbasically what I'm saying is that you should have your gun at the ready if you're going to be fucking around with consoles>>562094367I think only one of those rings is good, rF+ and SInv is nice
it's over
I finally escaped with the orb (4 runes) a couple weeks ago after playing on and off for a few years. I was playing a Gnoll Wanderer of Chei and beat most of the game after Lair by spamming forge summons and mashing Step From Time to save myself from a couple of run ending fights. Most of my runs end after dying in a Lair branch so I felt pretty damn good about it.
>>562071529It's not a real game, it's just a visual representation of a "roguelike".
>>562125956Chei is trash.
>>562134106Chat is this true?
>>562078469This is tales of Tome, right?
>>562141528It's just tome4 with classic UI
>>562135904Chei can be fun but the power of evoking feet is so overwhelming it's not ever really optimal. Grats on the win though. If you can win with Chei you probably have enough of a grasp on the game to win with other gods
>still no Lovecraftian roguelike
>>562141819I'm currently obsessed with trying to win as a DEHu of Dith/Hep/Fedhas
>>562144602Infra Arcana is literally IM GOING INSAAAANE: The Game, full of niggerlicious references to niggerman himself.
>>562148717It shouldn't be that hard if you play safe and read what the enemies do. Hep is OP in general, and the devs gave Deep Elf a gigantic buff with parchments. Deep Elf can easily cast low level magic from every spell school without even using many skill points, so having tons of parchments laying around gives them a lot of tools to handle bad situations.
goddamn that new captcha scared me
>>562151883I've never beat it but is the high priest the final boss? There's so little documentation of this gameGod fucking damn is that fight stacked, how do you even beat it? CAN you beat it?
no rougelike related captchas I'm assuming?
>>562167350The like of rougelike captcha is the rougelike experience
I made the mistake of sleeping near an ant colonyNow it's going to take 2 hours real time to wake up
>>562167350Imagine if you had to guess the roguelike just from the base ASCII
>>562172701Another problem that can be solved by not playing DDA
All forks of Cata are trash as Cata itself was always trash. Just stop playing Cataclysm and switch to an actual roguelike
do you think LLMs will usher in a golden age of roguelike development or will we all drown in a sea of slop?
What's the best April Fools joke you ever heard?Mine was "Surely things will get better"
>>562176878I'm sure plenty of people are vibe coding games like that. They just don't get popular.
One whole ass second to generate this 10s without -O3. Time to add quests, NPCs and other mumbo jumbo.
>>562186352It looks like absolute dogshit.
>>562187345Thanks I tried my best
>>562176878Sea of slop. LLMs can now put together features for you but they can't generate something worth playing that's on (You). I was messing around with one recently but without a good idea for something unique no one will ever be interested in the slop output that's just a basic clone of an old classic roguelike.
HUGE roguelike cheating scandal
>>562172735who's that roguelikei don't know even half of these meme captchas
>>562190612Competitive parasocial rogueliking was a terrible idea.
Anybody tried Grime? Never heard of it but saw a sequel came out.
>>562196208better ask indie general
>https://github.com/cataclysmbn/Cataclysm-BN/pull/8425kek, better than the Exodii
bros!!!!!!!!https://store.steampowered.com/app/3784030/RACCOIN_Coin_Pusher_Roguelike/
new roguelike mode just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uArnmoAM0aM
>>562203962Who is the target for coin pusher sims? My elderly aunt does play at the arcade but zero young people do.
>>562204272no clue, friend of mine is playing it.
>got a +11 randart in the first floors>got cocky and o + tab'd straight into GrinderOh well, easy come easy go
What roguelikes have the best gore?
>>562211664Cogmind
>>562211664Orcish Fury:https://redxaxder.itch.io/7drl2022
>>562211664Dwarf Fortress
What do you guys think of Mortal Sin? Popped up on Steam but haven't heard of it before.
I triggered the Q-thing to see what it was all about and killed my first baronI think I was lucky mb? He only got one turn to attack me and my shitty knives made short work of himI got some extra fancy loot and a big ass alien cleaver now
>>562204272Never heard of this genre. What's the most popular?
Is there any way to worm a suppressor onto the hub HWP rifle? It needs a muzzle slot, but the HWP doesn't have one. Can I add it somehow, or is there some other mod that reduces noise?
Is it true that Tales of Maj'Eyal is pretty static and the beginning of every run plays the same?
>>562222531>Tales of Maj'Eyal is pretty staticLolLmao even
>>562222783I wouldn't really want to repeat the exact same arena quest every time for example.
Where the Naqui women at?
>>562217962How is Quasimorph after a few updates? It's been a long time since I've played but I enjoyed Stoneshard and thought Quasimorph was on it's way to being just as good. I think I went a melee build for the most part.
>>562217962I believe knoife is piercing so at least it's not hitting duggur's immunity to slashing. And looks like you're a melee spec class to begin with.
>>562225929I only played it a bit a while ago, so far it seems mostly the same grinding for ship parts and reputation, there's probably some stuff that was changed and added but I didnt really notice, the gameplay is the same
>>562226661Yeah I got the Cobra class very early which is about throwing shit and get big melee buffs, it's pretty funny, I also summoned and killed another baron on the last floor cause my poor girl was starving and had to eat some long pigI cant really do it here since im on the moon and there's quasis, but this is the merc that doesnt get infections so on Mars or that one earth station I can just live off the land by dismembering corpses for meat and bones to throw, and rags to heal wounds, pretty great to ignore medicine and food and carry moar LOOT
>>562227431You can just print sorbent for free so infection is kinda of a nothingburger.
>>562227751Sure but you probably cant go around gorging yourself on raw meat and bandaging yourself with toilet paper without bringing a couple stacks that you have to print and pack and ugh, its just convenient
>>562225929Pretty sure thats a new thing, you can take over one of the minor corps now, apparently you get access to all their stuff when you doNo idea which one I want to pick though
>>562188581Is this sloppa? Looks pretty comfy.
>>562222531Depends how you wanna nitpick it, but in my opinion yes.
>>562222531Yes.it is also quite bad. But if you love MMOs you're probably gonna like it.Shit taste can only enjoy shit after all
>remove swastika vaults>retain symbol of modern genocidal regimeI'm triggered
>>562230697The assets are very nice but not AI I got them from itch, I had to make some small pixel adjustments and create the sprite equip overlays myself. The code is like 80% Claude, I posted in the last thread the dungeon gen algorithms which came from the cogmind dev's blog. I mostly wanted to just mess around with agent coding though I didn't have a good idea for anything to make an interesting game. I think anyone can make a complete roguelike with these tools as they are now with just a bit of effort but like I said you still need a good idea first. I think we will really get a massive wave of garbage unfortunately.
>>562232352Are we entering the era of rogueslops?
>>562235987Maybe not quite yet but it's hard not to see how we don't get the same AI image slop everywhere but for simple games.
100%like
>You pound Josephine like an anvil!!!
>>562187345Isn't that true of most RLs?
>centaur rape>time travelingHarry Potter roguelike
>>562211664Stoneshart, probably
>>562272876maybe someday
>>562240141I don't fucking get it, maybe a realistic AI photo can trick someone into thinking it's real sometimes, but AI is fucking shit at drawing, everything drawn by AI can be instantly recognized as slop just because of how garbage it looks, how do people tolerate it?
Name 1 (one) non dogshit open world game (roguelike even)
>>562286109Cataclysm: Bright NightsHTH, HAND
>>562186352vibrant green on red is absolute pain
>>562286519Oh that's not part of the level (this is like a procgen viewer tool), it's just there to force me to look for anomalies
>>562286592do you like being forced to do things anon?do you need to be forced?
>>562286696If you want the real answer, it's because I accidentally set the background to be red while debugging and I haven't changed it since.
>>562286109UnReal World.
More like unrogueliek world
>>>/v/736224329Another retard filtered by ADOM. Many such cases!
I played a little DCSS yesterday and all the Ogres were replaced with ShrekWhat other april fools shit did I miss out on? Does Nethack do anything?
is the index fucked again? Why are we still on page 10?
>>562293952It's over
>>562294010>page 3WE'RE BACK
>>562293818It's high time /rlg/ admits ADOM is really not that good (it's mid, as the kids say it)
>>562293952It's because this thread consists of just one schizo talking to himself
>>562294929I don't remember posting this
>>562294929True (I know this because no one ever replies to me)
wahoo
the procgen can handle quests nowthe sprites have to be updated but it's a quest where you find a treasure map then unlock the door to the treasurewahoo
First time exploring a lab. I didn't know it was a lab at first, I just found a random ladder behind a vent in a field, and went down looking for rubber cement for some recipes thinking it was a sewer maintenance room. Then I figured I'd test the full set of hub gear to see how it fared againt the threats there. Well, at least this first floor wasn't hard, the only thing that wounded me for I think 9 damage was a turret on wheels shooting M855 ammo. Now the question on my mind is, how do I loot all of this? There's just so much stuff down there, is there anything I should look for? I can't possibly use or carry all of these chems and weird chemistry gadgets. The place is filled with creature samples and mutants. I want neither cybernetics nor mutations for this character, but I have 2 npcs that are just on crafting duty. One of them has the "frail" trait, so I'm thinking of trying to mutate that away if it's possible. Is it?
>>562311029i mean how much spoilers do you want
>>562311905Is that referring to mutation possibilities or what to loot? I'm fine with spoilers for mutations. For loot, I guess I could tinker with everything the place has at some point, so if there's some super secret cool thing that's a nice surprise, I guess I could live without knowing everything. But like, is there anything obvious I should look for in terms of items, as a quick first looting pass? Like, I heard activity suits were "good" or something, and there's a ton of them there. I haven't explored the entire lab, just what I could access through normal doors, and keeping away from the yellow zones that seem to need one of those 5 point harnesses for some reason according to one sign. I also had 2 science cards on me at the time, so I opened 2 of the containment zones with the bigger mutants. I'll bring more later to open the rest.
>>562311029>Now the question on my mind is, how do I loot all of this?You need to mark the location and bring a car, then prepare yourself for the mind numbing task of \ dragging several hundred pounds of loot to the surface. Building a basket on wheels in a lab is pointless because you can't drag vehicles up or down stairs.
So, uh, it's my 10th day in cata (DDA) and I kind of have enough food now for the next like 900 days. What's stopping me from holing up in a shack and reading all of my books for the next who knows how long? Will I end up having to face extremely strong zombies due to evolution, or does evolution not affect places you've been to before?
>>562320674I don't remember if revealed zombies can still evolve, but the first evolution phase is what, 30 days? You have time to fuck around a little bit before the other cities start getting filled with skeletal juggernauts.
Okay so I strapped a laser rifle on top of my car so now my cata run is basically over
>>562319728>Building a basket on wheels in a lab is pointless because you can't drag vehicles up or down stairs.Make a folding cart, then when you get to the stairs, fold it, drag it and the pile of loot upstairs, then unfold and use AIM to put the loot back in. Worked in DDA when I last played it, still works in BN.
>>562329893Thanks, I'll try it.
>>562320674can't you just change the settings to lower evolution by time if you don't want to play that way?
>>562333868You can change the evolution scale at any time, yeah. It won't change zombies that have already been generated, but will alter their future evolutions the next time they pop into the reality bubble
I made a terrible mistake
might be the wrong place to ask to i figure people here might know; what was the kinda roguelite it was on nexfes maybe a year or so ago, you're in a modern city and the gameplay kinda depends on your class like a burglar stealths around and steals thing, then maybe silly things like being a clown that just causes chaos. i think it was a sequel.
>>562346063I dunno, Streets of Rogue maybe?
>>562347467aw yeah thanks thats it>not even out in early access yetclassic.
googoogaga
>roguelike is now in the movie industry
>>562314215honestly i dont really raid labs because the new experimental means there isnt anything useful to me usually. unless you want to mutate, or you want to start doing chemistry. you can find the stuff to make your own bombs/gunpowder in there, but its so easy to just raid military bases i dont get the point.maybe someone else can update you on its value, ive just mostly given up on them except for poking my head in every once and a while to see if anythings changed
>>562336435Idk what this is but it looks cool!
>>562336435Was the mistake that you took a mission that will take 6 months to get to but you have less than 1 month to complete?
>>562369884Every time you travel in Quasimorph the factions do stuff and grow stronger while you're just sitting in your ship so you can get outscaledThe mission disappeared after the timer and I can try it on someone else, but this time I will make sure to check that their HQ isn't at the far end of the solar system
