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New Patch, Same Shit Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-226950

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>561038578
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>miku ult nerfed
>everything else buffed
How big is ult nerf?
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Silver needs thighs buff her ass is out of proportion
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Sex with Venator
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somehow they made a patch worse than the last
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matchmaking changes?
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so who benefited/suffered from the new vitality tree changes?
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>>561073137
Your OTP got nerfed?
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>>561073181
eternus can now be matchmade into seeker
enjoy
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gargoyle pussy
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>tiny 5% adjustments
>Slight buff to survival against spirit burst

Boring patch.

Doorman changes look alright though
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Sex with Abrams
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Just had a Victor on my team that bought Healbane instead and was still an unkillable meltmonster despite the enemies having anti heal and their Rem buying curse lol.
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I like to put graves on top priority just so I can take her away from the graves schizo. I don't even have a build for her lmfao.
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I feel like Celeste deals no damage when i play her. I just jump and dash around and disrupt shit with my abilities that just tickle them.
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>>561073263
you joke, but I lane against eternus players all the time in oracle yet my oracle teammates still go 0-6 against other oracles
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>Apollo BUFFS
But /dlg/ was saying he was OP?
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>>561073443
He fell off crazy lategame. Early he's a menace tho.
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>Abrams: Melee damage per boon increased by 10%
Unbind your parry keys so you can see what this dick can do
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>>561073307
They nerfed his 3 and buffed his 1/2 listen bro as a ex victor main I don't get it either.
Enjoy witchmail victor! Sure worth the lifesteal nerf huh?
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>>561073443
he is, there's an apollotroon on the dev team
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Silver x Venator
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>>561073370
with the amount of smurfing in the game they're probably playing against eternus players too
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>>561073517
Already have
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>>561073572
everything below eternus has eternus smurfs in it
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>>561073517
Its nothing mate
They need to give his passive a melee element to make melee viable.
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>>561073443
>Apollo BUFFS
They realized they need to make him better at dealing weapon damage, so honestly at some point I wouldn't say its out of imagination to see things like his 3 gain split scaling.
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What the fuck is the point of Essence Theft if it takes 4 full seconds to proc and then wears off the second her attack stops like Graves has to reload.
Does fire rate make Essence Theft proc ANY faster?
It feels like there's no impact building it to its second tier...
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Can I just be braindead and focus purely on pushing a lane and not get involved in any other funny business, is that viable for someone like paradox?
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shivGODS we are eating good this patch
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>>561073443
>entire team blasting at apollo
>takes 40% damage total not counting beam
I don't get what the deal with this freak is when I explode instantly upon pulling this shit or being caught out of position
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Made a post of buff UI consistency with 6 item examples and it was viewed by a few devs and ignored. Do I post more evidence since this patch didn't address shit?

idk yall, priorities seem fucked
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>team spends the entire time brooling
>never pushing objectives
>never protecting objectives
Where do these people come from? Can they fuck off back to OW/Marvel Rivals. For fuck sake.
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>>561073768
AH TRIED TO BE NICE
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>>561073753
average graves player iq
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>>561073753
slide nigga
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How are we feeling #wolfpack?
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Mina bros, what are we thinking? How big the umbrella buff really is? what about her ult, does it do more damage now overall?

also she got tf2 unusual effect when gliding with umbrella
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>suddenly seeing no victors and calicos and a lot of shivs in brool
god I hate metawhores
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>Fire Scarabs no longer applies +10% damage taken
>Djinn's Mark spirit scaling reduced from x0.51 to x0.44
Why the fuck are they nerfing a 38% winrate character?
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>>561073548

I guess they want him to buy Radiant Regeneration instead of Infuser or Leech for some reason. It feels like they should just rework his aura since it just rapes him against opponents who stack a few heal decrease items on him and lower ranks neither know how to kite or itemize against him.
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>>561074129
Bebop is an honest cocksucker.
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>>561074129
>bebop
>viscous
>honest
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>>561074129
retard
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>midboss doesn't take any damage
That's cool
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>>561073024
have u ever been hit by miku ult bro that shit chunks 10% of your hp every 0.3 seconds
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>>561073960
I slide and I active reload
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>>561074050
Feelin good
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>>561074129
>Billy honest
>Abrams dishonest
Based retard
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>>561074305
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>>561074313
Yeah I just cant into the number changes besides seeing it is a nerf, not how big of one tho
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>>561074129
Literally just flip the tiers and it becomes accurate
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>>561073517
Abrams won't stop coming!
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oh yeah buddy this is pre-alpha still alright
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>>561074050
I don't like the t3 buff much. The other wolf form changes are welcome, but personally I thought that t3 needed nerfing, not buffing, because it makes the amount of time in wolf form too unpredictable and makes her into even more of a feast-or-famine hero
I still feel like they should just buff wolf form's other numbers more, and keep it more as an hour of power thing instead
It's good that they're nerfing slam fire but they should really actually hit its damage and not its accuracy (and reduce bloodlust required for ult proportionally since it's often your only ticket into wolf form). When you're slamming in melee range on a bola'd target it's probably gonna hit whether you got -25% accuracy or -50%
Love Silver
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>absolutely rape my lane, we take their walker 10 mins in
>look at other lanes
>0/0/0 M&K 12 minutes in the game
>our jungle is permanently occupied by their Rem+Drifter
>draft gave us zero carries
thank you yoshit, very cool!
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>>561071056
nta but i wish we just had Undying as a hero
>remove scarabs from Mirage and turn it into AoE Decay
>remove Scorn from M&K and turn it into Soul Rip with alt-target for healing/damaging allies and enemies respectively
>remove Borrowed Decree from Graves and keep it the same or make it function same as regular Tomestone
>add Flesh Golem transformation similar to Lycan Curse but procs on death or can be manually activated when below 50% HP
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>>561074473
imagine being forced to work on the weekend for a fucking game not even in alpha
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>>561075012
>flesh golem procs on death
at that point it's just a reskinned wk ult
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>>561074827
>I don't like the t3 buff much
What does the buff actually do
Surely it doesn't count assists now right?
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>>561075012
clockwerk hero when
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>>561073292
they're just nerfs though
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>>561074093
>shivs in brool
Don't worry bro that's a blessing his item pool in there is so ass he'll never reach peak efficiency.
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>>561075125
>forced
yoshi does it for the love of the game thoughbeit
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>>561075235
he felts good in brool tho
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>>561075165
>Surely it doesn't count assists now right?
I admit I haven't seen it in action yet, but that's what I'm presuming it does, yes
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>>561075341
you need someone to approve your CR in any good company
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>play graves and push up to 3rd tier with rem when enemies are distracted
>get jumped by M&K and Infernus
>They both focus the rem because they're so used to graves being shit
>rem dies but i kill both
I'm no longer an ult bot, i can finally fight someone like Infernus or mo and deal decent damage regardless of weather i win or lose i don't just automatically get raped, i fucking love the changes
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>>561068126
The game has by far superior characters and design overall, but I really dislike the entire shield/healing/tank gameplay where healing is so strong that nothing dies unless they get killed in 0.1seconds
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>>561075151
all of these abilities are reskinned

>>561075184
>when you tryna clear a camp on the roof and suddenly CHRSHRRRKKKK
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>>561075415
This entire thing is Valve's blank check to Icefrog. He can do anything.
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>does damage again
>can dash reset again
>shotgun movement is strong without needing to memorize specific rollouts again
>in exchange for those times you wifi ult someone through 3 walls and a doorman portal it's now an a huge rage build, a clutch movement tool AND a potential chain execute
>can get 100% orange damage clear
>can pretend this character is balanced because "bro healbane weakens my passive" as if I'm not buying remover anyway
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>shiv is starting to get picks again as people figure out he's not useless dogshit (as it always happens)
>gets massive fucking buffs for no reason
>silver was perma pick/banned with all pro players saying how retarded she is
>eternus is often decided by just who gets the mcginnis/silver/victor and if they're retarded or not
>silver gets ONE complete nothing burger """nerf""" and then a bunch of big buffs
>mcginnis get a bunch of absolute nothing nerfs that do not actually affect the build and then buffs
>spirit heroes that weren't broken and already kinda meh get ass fucked in the crossfire through the massive spirit nerfs


What in the absolute fuck is wrong with these developers
Why are they incapable of delivering a half decent patch that's not full of abhorrent dogshit?
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>>561075759
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>>561075759
God imagine grabbing her by the base of her tail and lifting her ass into the air.
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>>561075820
We eatin good ShivGAWDS
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>>561075843
M1nkeys got into Yoshi's ear
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>Graves: Jar of Dead T2 now increases duration by +4s
Ah yeah THIS was the problem with skulls, the fucking duration
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>>561075843
>>silver was perma pick/banned with all pro players saying how retarded she is
>>eternus is often decided by just who gets the .... SILVER
Goober, is that actually you posting here? Be fucking honest
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>>561075843
Goober you need to be 18+ to post here you dumb fucking zoomer.
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>>561073443
>make his gun damage and his t2/t3 parry, things literally nobody invented in because they sucked, a little better
>also nerf literally every range increase item (he needs these extremely badly) lower literally all spirit damage because breakpoints are nerfed (and is increased again) and buff lane spirit resist items so you can survive his lane and he can't snowball

he got nerfed lil niggy unless you were me who already played the parry into 80% heavy melee build
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>seraphim wings lets you stay in air indefinitely now
what the fuck
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What items should I buy if I'm a new player? Just copy the most popular public build?
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>>561075843
Didn't silver have the worst winrate of all time in fight night
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Well, playing one game without midboss was interesting at least
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>shrink ray buffed
they don't even fucking play the game do they
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>>561076193
game was better for it desu
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>>561076029
>>>eternus is often decided by just who gets the .... SILVER
yes, the team that gets silver loses
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>spirit range nerfed across the board
>add some additional range nerfs to Doorman's doors
>oh and his bells don't exist anymore
Insanity.
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>buffing the easiest to play heros
i knew they were catering to casuals
this game is pulling a marvel rivals lmfao
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- Graves: Jar of Dead health per boon increased from 1 to 1.3

Does this change literally anything?
Don't they still instantly die to 1 melee/ricochet bullet even 40 minutes in?
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>>561076276
>high pitched DAH DAYUM U!!!
>turn around and see a miniature monkey jumping toward you
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>>561076179
She had an 80% wr on the last lateshift
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>>561076276
>>561076097
brool is the goofy for fun mode
people weren't picking the goofy for fun items
they were made insane so you will
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>DOORman
>what if we made his doors dogshit
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oh boy I can't wait to see silver first picked/banned again next night shift!
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>>561075843
niggers like this will claim silver is OP but can never explain why outside of "muh pick or ban" or "muh pro players said so"
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im glad silver can do 80% of damage output as a fed carry with half the souls its fair and balanced
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I just woke up silver bros how bad is our nerf
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Ivy's ult shouldn't even allow you to pick up teammates because it's useless. To get close enough to pick up a teammate, you're already taking damage and therefore it is locked out. But because you theoretically can save your team, you have no choice but to run in and die with your team now.
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>>561076179
she literally allowed a bunch of whos win night shift for the first time in ages doing top damage in 3 games
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>>561075820
how do i even build shiv now
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>>561076525
shrink ray was already an instant win no matter your comp, it's just faster now
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>silver buffs
>she's still bad
She needs even more buffs to be honest.
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>>561076569
How hard is it to buy metal skin her damage is all burst so it cucks her even harder than a usual gun hero.
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i got bumped down for this game, the fuck was i supposed to do?
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>>561076594
Half her kit relies on her being within close proximity of players.
What are you on about nigga.
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>>561076595
mlc isn't a top team anymore and it was obvious for weeks
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>>561076750
>resistance items at all
>no spirit items
>no real spirit shred
>no anti heal vs mcginnis ivy mo wraith venator
niggy
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>>561076459
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>>561076590
we got buffed
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>>561076526
honestly its healthier for the game to not make him "kidnap into fountain man" all the time
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The fact doorman doors range can even reach 3 digits is kinda crazy considering half of deadlock playerbase is leaguebabies who think being stunned for 0.5seconds is toxic uniteractive game mechanic.
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hello my fellow victortards i would like to report victor feels the same i just use radiant regen instead of infuser. if anything i dare say it was BUFF because the range from his ult is the whole fucking map
>but you lost
yeah but it was fun i rather like regen more than infuser even
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>>561077149
>victor feels the same
>1-2
haha yeah fs
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>>561076590
She got buffed packmate
I'm not necessarily sure if they were all buffs that are healthy for her, but she got buffed
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Infernig is a hero I've always hated but I think Jezebel's should a location that's given more attention and fleshed out. It's a place that serves as a common ground for a lot of unrelated characters and it's main Infernus' motivation. It's a place where most of the cast has either gone to before or plan to go to after

It should be implimented into the game itself
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They didn't touch my mains, but the item changes were an extremely minor slap on the wrist. Bretty good patch.
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This game is making me delirious. I cannot stop hurting myself after dogshit matches. I just wanna feel happiness from winning but had a match where I couldn't do anything. Lash ult into Dynamos ult every team fight. Then fire nigga would melt me with his lifesteal on 1v1. I wann kill myself badly rn. I keep instinctibly trying to gouge my right eye but thankfully I get to stop myself.
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>>561077692
ur counterspell vro?
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>>561077692
retard
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>>561075184
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/1/1b/Hookshot.mp3/revision/latest?cb=20141124205738

I wish bebop hook sounded like this, would be 200% cooler
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>>561077149
>67k victor 1 kill
its so fucking over
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>>561077582
>They didn't touch my mains,
feels good just playing everything, i don't gotta worry about SHIT
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A reminder that all the tanks actually got omega buffed because of the boon changes so mo is ascended god tier now (despite "nerfs" intended to weaken him), I'm starting to believe these devs are like emissary at most
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>>561077956
My mains are honest m1gawds so there's nothing to worry about but item changes, really.
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>>561078086
wow if only toxic and siphon bullets weren't op as fuck
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>>561078132
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>honest m1
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>>561077278
>>561077851
stop being retards looking at the kills
victor genuinely plays the same as before for me, tanking shit and healing it out
in retrospect while his damage got indirectly nerfed because infuser did give that spirit boost, i think this is overall better because mystic regen procs a heal with your pain battery + jumpstart cleanses aids enemies throw at you. seriously try out a match with that build, it's so fucking funny to heal with regen
i don't know how to word this properly, so i'm sorry if this just sounds like schizo retarded bullshit. but victor still feels really fun to play and that's all that matters to me. the vitality buff is also very undervalued
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who buys Juggernaut, and when?
I don't think I have ever seen that bought
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>>561077692
your dispel? your counterspell? your silence wave? your unstop? you should kys, initiate 1 tard
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>>561078387
>same as before for me
Every hero will play the same if you play them like (You) with negative kill participation.
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>>561078481
I buy it if Im laning against calico abrams viscous and billy
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So all the gay cringe that was already strong got buffed, all the already shit heroes remain shit, matchmaking and ranked still make the game unplayable and they only really nerfed viscous from the big pool of cancer that needed to be hit.
Sasuga yoshi, another abhorrent patch.


I'm wondering if I should just uninstall for a while.
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>>561078538
the kills only happened because i was there tanking everything use your brain bwo
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>>561078387
kills matter on lategame carries because that's literally their job. doesn't matter if your doing a ton of damage if that damage is so spread out so people can easily leave the fight.
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>>561077692
this is why i only brool, what the hell is going on in normal mode
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>>561078481
>who buys Juggernaut, and when?
its a situational item, you get it when you either need slow resist or you need to make a actual m1 character do less damage.
the fire rate reduction is pretty hefty
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Sinclair isn't actually hard to play at all. The "high skill cap" glaze is unwarranted
People just assume magic themed characters are sweaty and high skill since Invoker and Rubick happened to be in Dota 2
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>>561077790
fuck you nigger
>>561078512
Your mother? Your farther? Where are they? Oh that's right, they hate you faggot face. Hang yourself
but yeah let me waste more item slots so I can do even less dmg in team fights! Hell yeah, let that wraith and inernus rape my ass even more. Dogshit game design
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Holy FUUUUCK FINALLLYYYY
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>>561078616
>because i was there tanking everything use your brain bwo
That doesn't work because your teammates were clearly the one taking all the damage. Their death numbers are close to each other while you only have 2 deaths, how are they dying if you're "tanking everything"
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So the doorman changes give him better late game bell scaling while toning a bit of his door ability back?
I really feel like the devs have no idea what they want his role to be in some regards
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>>561078729
retard lmao
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>>561076637
feel like healing booster is mandatory now, even if you never go tempo. with the spirit breakpoint nerfs, "buffed" m2 movement and his overall much easier time building rage I feel like hybrid shiv is back on the menu and you want 4.6k gun again
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do you think im deserving of human rights based off my hero pool?
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>let me buy counter items just so I can do even less dmg in team fights
this is the worst design there is
if you defend it, you deserve the rope. Fucking brainlet niggers
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In news that probably means nothing, the @deadlock account has been suspended from posting and it might be a valve grab for the handle. Might mean something's coming soon.
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>>561078669
and other hilarious things seekers say to sound smart
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>>561078729
those items let you do more damage. ironic
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>Celeste is back to being a rapist again
It's never been so over.
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>>561075415
Good thing Valve's a great company.
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>>561077123
What is he now though? Spam ult man and hope they're retarded enough to not buy warp stone?
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>>561078847
no nigger, tell me how am I suppose to deal dmg if I buy counter items, resist items, etc. How is that good game design? How is that fun just to counter 1-2 players on the enemy team. If you defend this, you deserve to be butchered by a gang of niggers on a street
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>>561078765
because my team mates were feeding during lane and mid game while i wa farming to get online asap since victor is fucking useless early/mid especially when the enemy has a soul lead so you gotta catch up...?
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>>561078875
Don't see anything really wrong with it.
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Damn Doornigga is useless again
Back to Dynamo
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shout out to the people that will continue to use victor because he is very bad right now
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>>561078884
>>561078729
>>561079035
UH OHHHH BACK TO LEAGUE OF FAGGOTS
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>>561078884
>buy spirit res to not die to celeste
>has built-in aoe escalated exposure so it doesn't do shit
>was already top tier last patch
>gets buffed


These devs might be worse than, and Allah forgive me for uttering their name, the overwatch devs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ULlmUQxRw8
ITS UP
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Okay I have played Graves
>1 buffs are massive, it actually feels like the skulls do something now
>2 is still her least priority skill, the cd reduction was better than the ghouls
>t3 3 targeting is actually fantastic, the enemies don't have to be stacked on top of each other
>4 changes are insane for lane but most Graves builds maxed out 4 first so it's kind of a nerf
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>>561078958
dogshit game design
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I thought the graveschizo said he was uninstalling, why is he still here?
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>>561079035
> tell me how am I suppose to deal dmg if I buy counter items, resist items, etc
I was more calling you a retard for being unable to regulate yourself in the slightest
But holy shit RETARD lmao
Here's ancient wisdom, you work out the rest on your own
Confucius say, corpse on ground do no DPS
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>>561078746
I don't even know what that is supposed to mean
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>>561079035
most of them literally increase your damage (disarm hex lowers bullet resist on top of disarm, counterspell gives you a bunch of spirit power, inhibitor has +weapon damage on top of its actual effects) or at least increase your investment in a stat that increases your characters damage while lowering the other guys damage so that you're on roughly the same playing field and them buying exclusively +damage items doesn't matter as much
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>>561079167
alhamdulillah brother what are you building on her
i usually go gun graves but i want to build purple and try the skull changes
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>>561079167
>>4 changes are insane for lane but most Graves builds maxed out 4 first so it's kind of a nerf
why the fuck are you maxing 4 first
even less reason to do that now
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>>561079180
plenty of heroes have iframe skills; dynamo, mirage, mina even a warp stone can outplay opponents. get good, shitter
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>>561078669
Real seekers would seethe at this post.
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>>561079213
and here comes the tranny nigger defending horrble game dev
>>561079329
nah, going back to MR. At least heroes there have their kits that are properly designed, not this item mess here. Only a nigger with sub 90IQ can say this is good.
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>>561078861
wonder if stalker on shiv in lane could be something
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>>561079421
HAHAHAH BACK TO SHIELD HEAL POKESLOP, SHITTER
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>>561079421
I chuckccept your sneedcession
Don't hurry back RETARD
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>>561079217
>Pre Patch: You NEEDED to get the killing blow with wolf to get the t3 duration reset
>Post Patch: It works like other on kill effects like bird or assassinate and you only need to land a hit 1.5 seconds before they die. As long as you hit someone within 1.5 seconds of them dying you get a reset.
"How is this different from assists."
Because assists are extremely loose for what counts as an assist. Merely being near someone when a teammate kills them counts as an assist.
"How will this affect silver."
She'll get her duration reset on kill + the heal more consistently now instead of getting fucked over because someone stole the kill.
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>vortex web of all things gets nerfed
>an item only Doorman and maybe sometimes Ivy bought
Man, range doorman got raped, his early game seems worse than it was in December with the number tweaks on bells, going ult build is fun and games until people aren't retarded and buy one item that counters it, gunman seems like an antithesis to his kit, I legit am not sure how to play him right now
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>parry someone
>they melee me mid parry animation and nothing happens


>I bait a parry
>they clearly stopped the animation and sound on my screen, they're literally starting to move again, go for a light melee
>the game quantum leaps and now I somehow hit them mid parry, get parried and die

are they ever gonna fix this retarded nigger games netcode
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>>561079537
literally every range item got nerfed it has nothing to do with vortex itself
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>>561079492
>>561079513
play with your tranny items
at least in wow classic it makes sense but in a competitive multiplayer game it's just retarded and for trannies thinking they are good because they bought a counter item
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>>561079524
Also applicable to >>561074827 >>561075165 >>561075414
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>>561079421
lmao goofy ahh chink
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>>561079524
That's actually an insane buff
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>>561079271
My own build (based on faxfox), I haven't changed it yet for this patch.

>>561079280
I meant before the update, a lot of builds had 4 being maxed either first or immediately after 1. It'll change now though
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>>561079537
It wasn't a problem on either of those heroes. It was GIGA AIDS on Paige who'd use it to combo into her immobilise
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>>561079152
gooten blooten
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>>561077692
Put the graves in the bag lil bro
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>>561079421
lmao these seething retard filter posts are so funny
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>>561079660
>blizztranny
>Marvelchink
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK FILTERED
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I'm looking for an animated vyper meme, if anyone else knows it
it was her up close to the camera saying "why are you afraid of me? I'm nice. You want something? I can get it for you."
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>>561079726
so just dispel it? counterspell it?
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>>561079789
okay explain how items like that are good for the game
go on, but you cannot since your brain doesn't function and all of opinions are formed by someone else - you just copy them
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How Kelvin is played?
Is he pure support character?
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You people should hide your powerlevel a bit more
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>>561079660
BACK TO TRIPLE SUPPORT HEALSLOP KEEEEEEEEEK
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>>561075415
I know this is really hard for "work to live" people to understand, but some of us actually really like our jobs and coworkers and work weekends because it's fun / we're focused on something and want to see it through rather than halt progress because "you're not supposed to be working"
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>>561076025
More zombies is good enough desu, you can summon 4 like it's nothing AND you can suck 2 people at once finally, so you can actually sustain yourself instead of being a paper tiger
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>>561079421
>nah, going back to MR
OH NO
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>>561079856
I got 2
https://files.catbox.moe/jypxc0.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/unauie.mp4
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>>561080002
I see what type of goy cattle you truly are. Go back to your streamer overlord faggot
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>>561080040
yay that's the one, thanks
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>>561079947
Generally roamer+support yeah
Don't tell anybody but gun builds are fucking disgusting strong on him
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>>561079946
oh because an item system adds "depth" and stuff, yeah some are broken but at least it's not a casualized fagshow like *pfffft* marvel rivals not that you would understand brainlet buckbroken MR player lmao
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>>561080120
>buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords
yoshiGAWD mindbroke this poor little retard jesus christ
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>>561078784
>better late game
by a non existent amount, now he does literally no damage in early-mid game and now you are forced to go bell t3 first to have what you used to have by default which means no cart stun until so much later in the game.

The nerf deleted him from early-mid game pretty much and nuked his build variety as I don't see any way you can go anything but bell t3 first now.
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>>561080040
this is soul
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It's over
Deadlock is officially canceled
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>>561080189
Nice
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>>561080163
>>561080186
keep on playing trans sisters <3
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>>561080040
oh that slaps me on the knee
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we really can't go a singular month without shiv being mecha hitler tier huh
really need to start playing these blatant favorites
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okay so the graves combo is:
>ult 1
>wall1
>echo shard
>wall 2
>refresher
>ult 2
>wall 3
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>>561080267
you unironically play rivals you can't talk shit
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>>561079726
Fucking Paige. Hate that cunt even more now, had a good thing going on Doorman, a good fucking thing
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>>561080120
>>561080267
KEEEEEEK SHIELD HEAL POKEFAG CRYING THEY RELEASED ANOTHER SUPPORTSLOP FOR TARDS LIKE TOU LMAOOOOOOO
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Make cold front a 3200 item, every spirit faggot buys this shit in lane
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Is Celeste back to super rapist tier? Also how good is Graves and Miku now
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Shiv and Seven are Yoshi's mains so they can never spend more than 1 patch being bad.
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mcginnis is still broken and the single most unfun hero to play against
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>>561080339
MR is a better game
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>>561079679
i would much rather my game devs look like this than some troon or woman. also valve devs look like that as well
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>>561080267
LAMOOOOOOOOO ANOTHER HEALSLUT FOR THE TRANNY TRIPLE SUPPORT META KEEEEEEEK
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>>561080415
>back
literally never stopped being strong as fuck, these are supposed to be "nerfs" but they're so incompetent they just giga buffed her

the only hero that actually got nerfed is viscous but the gap got even bigger, they just threw this shit out in like 5 minutes to shut people up
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>>561080445
Shiv got nerfed I fear
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>>561080319
refresher works on items so you can echo shard + wall 4 at the end
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Listening to Doorman's ULT lines makes me wish they were more consistent in tone. Some of them he's brutally mean and intentionally cruel, others he's just like "yeah man, take a chill pill :)" and some he's just rambling about nonsense.

They kinda undercut each other as a result and it makes the intention of the ult quite muddled.
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why does every abrams player play out of their goddamn mind like it's night shift 24/7
I have never seen any player just straight tryhard sweating out the ass as much as every single abrams player I see
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>>561080285
vyper isn't that fat...
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>>561080557
it's deadlock but dumbed down so tards like you can understand

it is not better in the least
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>>561074827
I don't even feel like it's a buff, it's more like a consistency thing because it just makes it work like all of the other on-kill effects as of the last patch.
It's a change that I feel like has no relevance to high level play because people don't put emphasis on the T3 ultimate anyway, but I'm very happy about it in pisslow where people are constantly fighting you in single-file.
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>Bells gutted
>Doors gutted
>Cart lost half its damage with the initial change
>Ult doesn't work on people with brains
I guess he's off the roster for now
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>>561080574
>the only hero that actually got nerfed is viscous
didn't victor basically get taken out back and put down
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>>561080632
Some characters you have to try hard to get results, some you dont
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>>561079537
Doorman is still busted. Now you have to actually know how to play him though whereas when he first got these buffs, any fucking cockgobbling retard could pick him up and do well
basically actual doorman players won, form metaslaves lost
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>>561080565
>crying about attractive characters when deadcock has DEI roster
oh no no noo
>>561080650
nigger I've played wow since I was 12. Numerous items and skills don't scare me. It's just retarded for a competitive multiplayer game.
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>>561080804
>nigger I've played wow since I was 12.
IQ doesn't increase with age anon, you're doomed bro. Too dumb for a video game, pretty sad.
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>>561080632
I'LL CRUSH EM
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>>561080756
>Abrams
>requiring tryharding
you literally run at people and never die
I think the only stupid thing about abrams I have seen is nowadays people save his ult to escape with instead of engaging
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>>561080804
HEALSLUT TRANNY CAN ONLY PRESS HEAL CRYING ABOUT ITEMS KEEEEEEEEK
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>>561080791
>actual doorman players won
Anon he's practically worse than he was in December with the item changes
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>>561080415
>>561078960
Celeste was nerfed, what are you talking about? The bullet falloff, greater expansion nerf, lost 2 bounces which is all she's good for lategame, lost some bullet res too
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>deathy already bitching about the patch
I don't understand how these "people" have direct access to the devs and inner test builds but never actually get anything fixed or reworked

It's like catering and only listening to them was a horrible idea and the game was somehow more balanced and fun before they did that shit
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>>561080939
Play him for a day and get back to me
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>>561080887
>doesn't get the point
Okay, you are actually brown IRL, not worth talking with you. Going to sleep, enjoy your trannycore game, faggot. Make sure to buy counter items for every player on the enemy team!!
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>>561080662
Consistency is good but like I said I feel like it already makes the ult time too variable and is part of why people see her as feast or famine, as it is
I don't oppose the change being kept, but I do think it shouldn't fully refresh wolf duration, just restore it by like 50%
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>>561080804
>played wow since 12
>hasn't heard of arenas
KEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>561080970
if you're not a retard and actually know how to play him, you will do well
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>>561080632
i think some Abrams players are just so dog that when you finally face a good one it gives you psychological whiplash
conversely, if there are sweats on the other team, you immediately have to pull up or they'll run circles around you
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>>561081038
another MR tranny fuming kek
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>>561080791
How did actual players win if he's weaker than before any of the changes aside from the ult bug fix
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>>561080804
>Bragging about playing wow
Silent heal slut
Post your erp discord so we can laugh at you.
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>>561081038
Good night! have fun playing with 13 year olds on xboxes in your MR ranked games and deluding yourself into believing you aren't playing a fucking kiddie game
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>>561081019
Maybe the test build / secret playtest is gone or at least in active now that the new heroes are out

Of course leakers want you to think otherwise
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>>561081050
why do you keep using >le epin streamer lingo
also post your rank1 achi, nigger
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>>561081032
I play Abrams all the time and he's literally the most braindead hero in the game
Even when other players know how to deal with you, it's never enough
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>>561080707
It's really weird to me that they did it. He wasn't like Calico Wraith Victor tier broken even before the bell reduction. Hell, the one time a team used him in the tournament he got assraped by a Pocket, iirc. If they were balancing him around shitters they'd gut his ult, but instead they're making his early game worse and his support utility worse, it's kinda confusing on what their design goal is for him
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>>561080632
>abrams
oddly enough he has a lot to give the more you play, learn and know him. so people just get rewarded for trying harder and harder with abrams.
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>>561081141
It's time to learn Abrams and Shiv buddy.
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>>561081141
just play silver its the same button mashing your used to
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>>561080997
>this is a nerf according to troons
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>>561080997
>Celeste was nerfed
Literally just got hard buffed, are you retarded?
Fall off does nothing for a good celeste and her best ability got massive buffs plus scaling buffs
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>Bring back %-based health boons (now if you have low base hp your hero is just permanently fucked)
>Nerf Mirage while he's at 38% winrate
What the FUCK is Yoshi thinking?
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>- Graves: Grasping Hands T3 changed from "+1s Immobilize and -12s Cooldown" to "+1s Immobilize and +2 Ghouls Summoned"

what the fuck is this niggerass change? so you have to level her root in order to properly use her ult now?
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>>561081128
>tranny brings up kids
someone check this nigger's drive
>>561081116
>sex sex sex
what a faggot
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>>561081160
LMAOOO THE HEALSLUT TRANNY PLAYS WOW AND MARVEL RIVALS TRIPLE SUPPORT SLOP KEEEEEEEK DOESN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT ACTIVE ITEMS IN WOW ARENAS LOOOOOOL
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>>561081249
Silver is actually hard to play and easy to counter.
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>>561081301
you oughta know a lot about kids bro, it's your entire marvel rivals lobby. It's fucking Roblox.
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>>561076432
>Does this change literally anything?
It's a 30% increase so, hopefully
>Don't they still instantly die to 1 melee/ricochet bullet even 40 minutes in?
I don't think so but i haven't tried yet
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>>561081251
he's right that the bullet falloff damage changes her earlygame pretty badly
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>>561081316
you keep baiting by literally making shit up now
why
I've played wow classic for years both on privite and official servers. You would run full bags on various items for specific situations. My point is it is a dogshit design for a competitive multiplayer game like this. MMOs are different, obviously.
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>>561081340
til hard to play means free lifesteal, tank, damage, chase, disengage when you ult and win every 1v1
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>>561081514
>when you ult and win every 1v1
lol get good
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>>561079152
goblin looking mother fucker
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>>561079217
You know how they became more lenient with Drifter's 3 stacks? This is the same thing.
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>enemy team has the mandated 2 new players in it
>we win
>our team has the 2 mandated brand new players in it
>we lose
wowww this game is so fun and engaging isn't it
if only there was some way around this, like maybe putting the new players in the lower ranks? i dunno just a thought
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Holy shit you can't even protect your walkers except for blue anymore on doorman even with all ability range items. The least they could've done is revert his bell back to when he was first buffed. I wonder what dev/streamer kept getting kidnap raped by doorman.
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>>561081260
>what the fuck is this niggerass change?
They just promoted echo 2 to go with refresher ult rushing.
So graves spam is stronger
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Mirage actually feels pretty good to play right now but he is still a boring as sin screaming sandnigger. When are they fixing this?
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>>561077149
Highest kp and damage on team, least deaths, most souls. Yep, looks like normal Victor to me. I'll wait for some sweaty mains to give me a slightly modified build that likely no longer rushes infuser and resume using him to farm elo.
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>nerf spirit (again)
>buff gun (again)
they should just remove all non-utility/movement abilities and fully focus on the shooter aspect instead of this unfun inbetween they're doing right now
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yotuube recommended me a female streamer who was playing graves and literally afk farming a camp 5 meters away from a teamfight around the corner
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>>561081512
wow arenas are competitve multiplayer LOOL HEALSLUT TRANNY DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT TRINKETS AND ARMOR ACTIVES
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>>561081667
>When are they fixing this?
They have a lot of unused voicelines involving him screaming now, they can just add more of those back.
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The wall echo shard meme sounds better than what it actually is
She still doesn't really do shit
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>>561081650
there's a lot of counterplay to kidnapping but people couldn't be bothered to try it and just cried about it non stop
it would be ok if doorman got some big damage buffs because he's still useless outside of his ult late game
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>>561081775
poor spiritsissy, you might have to actually aim ur CDs now!
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>>561081251
Probably because of the nerfs to spirit across the board
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>>561081570
>see hand
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>>561081667
Probably not for a while considering that the characters that have gotten next to no changes in the balance updates (grey talon, holliday, sinclair) are very likely to get new kits and models relatively soon
But yeah I fucking hate Mirage because he stole scarabs and sand from a potential mummy hero
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The amount of retards who don't know you have to fucking stand in the patron area to make it immortal is insane. They all chase like retards while single enemy just finishes it off.
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>>561081775
>Nerf extremely easy strategy with overloaded items aiming in the general direction of the enemy team
>Buff strategy that requires shooting someone in the head (much smaller target) that uses much worse items
Hm...
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>>561081650
>Doorman players find a good strategy and it proceeds to instantly get killed
RIP to my niggas bellman, gunman, hybridman, bellman 2 and now rangeman. Ultman will join the rest of his brothers soon I'm sure
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>>561081975
because doorman is cancer incarnate with his infinite cc
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When should I break the egg?
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>>561081938
But bro I need to make my k/d look better
BUT BRO HE'S ONE BRO HE'S ONE
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>>561081791
NIGGER POST YOUR ARENA ACHIVS RIGHT NOW
YES I'VE RANKED AREANAS BUT YOU CANNOT COMPARE THAT SHIT TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE
also I main dps in wow, warlock
your IQ is truly low, gn
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>>561082048
9 minutes 59 seconds
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>>561081969
>>Buff strategy that requires shooting someone in the head (much smaller target) that uses much worse items
Don't forget that the counter items for gun are much stronger than the counter items for spirit
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>play geist
>2 other carries that want to perm sit side
>play rem
>carries are allergic to side

MAKE IT STOP
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>>561082048
2s before fight pops off
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>>561082048
Any time after 10+ minutes. So right before a important mid game fight or if you're a few souls away from a critical powerspike item.
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Are people also ignoring that tanks were made tankier?
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So with the Mirage changes does that mean if I land all 4 of my scarabs on one person they do -80% damage?
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>>561082048
20/30 minutes depending on how the game is going, is your team kicking ass or are they getting their teeth pushed in?
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>>561081667
>>561081816
I wish they kept all of his original screaming lines they're pretty funny
t. actual arab
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>celeste has like 52% winrate
>gets buffed

>every eternus game is now directly decided by who gets celeste, even if you shit on her she hard scales now
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>>561082061
Weren't you gonna go to sleep and also back to rivals?
Bring that back you mentally ill troon
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What's a good Solo Q Celeste build?
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>>561082112
spirit resist cant be purged. metal skin can
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>>561082231
Celeste wasn't buffed, she was nerfed.
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>>561082048
the last rem player i had on my team would recommend 33+ minutes after you lose both shrines and phase 1 of patron
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>>561080632
abrams needs good positioning and coms to get the most out of him, newbrams tend to just dive and feed without thought so when you actually fight a godbrams you get assraped to a degree you never forget.
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I wish they just gave Vic multiple pain batteries + made his gun better, and nerfed aura's damage. Pain battery is one of my favorite abilities in the game to land and his gun feels so good. Dying to a fed Victor wouldn't feel as bad if you know he has to actually aim at you to kill you at least. "Run at guys with an AoE" is so boring for everyone involved, and their big decision to make him less oppressive was just to make him die faster? What were they thinking?
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The hideout feels like where you could wake up in the afterlife
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>>561082257
>deadcock troon calling others trannies
what a faggot
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>>561082294
post rank real quick
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>>561082161
Everything will be changed again in 2 weeks, no point thinking too hard about it
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>>561082294
oh no no the silvertrannies and celestrannies are playing victim with persecution complex as always
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>>561081847
>>561081969
I'm saying that the game would be more fun as a full fledged shooter and you two are taking it as some kind of personal attack on your playstyle. if anything we agree that gun is better. people on here are so insanely fucking sensitive goddamn take it easy I literally AGREE with you
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>>561082496
Any buffs were just there to make up for the changes to spirit scaling, same as Apollo
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>>561082408
The only constant is that celeste/shiv/lash/abrams/silver/mina must be SSS tier
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>>561082328
>my favorite abilities in the game to land
>is a lanewide hitbox
kekw
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SILVER UPPLAYERS IN SHAMBLES
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>>561082263
3 spam build
radiant regen (can combo with healing booster if you want to be immortal), extra charges, max spirit, expansion on 3, cooldown reduction on ult for teamfights, stamina mastery
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>>561082357
LMAO THE SHITTER HEALSLUT IS STILL CRYING FOR ATTENTION KEEEEEEK THE BLIZZTRANNY DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT TRINKETS AND ARMOR ACTIVES IN COMPETITIVE MULTIPLAYER ARENAS
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The gun falloff is pretty significant for Celeste
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>>561082410
i mean, a wall and potentially ceiling walking character is unexplored territory for the game, a jetpack character would be ok too but we already got people getting hella vertical
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What is up with all the Shiv seethe bros? These patch notes drew a lot of haters out of the woodworks....
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>>561082574
Then why didn't yamato get that
Not only was yamato at a lower winrate but also less picked/banned in pro
Celeste not only got make up buffs for the spirit nerfs but ALSO got massive buffs to her best ability that increases FUCKING SPIRIT AMP
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>>561079972
ive witnesssed people go full on zogbot israel rants in game and always called them out on it

fucking faggots
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>>561082574
this cope for spirit heroes that didn't get buffed, celestranny?
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>>561082776
>why does everyone hate the hero that has been perpetually broken retarded since release and just got massive buffs for no reason
hmmm
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>>561082779
Yamato's better than Celeste
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>>561082776
YOU'RE DEAD
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>>561079972
>goy lives matter
they won't like that
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>>561082827
What do you mean? Like proisreal rants? What would that even sound like

On EU servers you see people ranting about hating Jews (jokingly) all the time
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>Scarab changes AGAIN
They have no clue what the fuck to do with this ability
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>>561082898
celestexisters... this applies to us
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>>561082639
I never said it was hard to land, it just feels good.
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>>561082904
Nigger there's no way you just fucking typed this
Post your rank right now next to this fucking post, you have 1 minute
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patch is still ass
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every time i play mo and krill i get fed but i lose
what do i do about this
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mohammed and krilliam
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POCKET IS A MAN AND A SHITTY CHARACTER
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uh so when will icetoad gonna buff Grave's lil skulls? you know what forget buffing it, just completely remove it from the game since its useless
the fact that you can destroy it with a light tap is retarded
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>>561083140
Mo and Krill is shit now
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>>561083086
its a celestranny with build dysmorphia
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>>561083019
As in general autistic schizo rants trying to be funny, stupid shit you'd only see on /pol/ or /b/ or whatever. Regurgitated mental slop that faggots here puke out in normal settings because they're trying so hard to be cool and edgy
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Rescue Beam is my favorite item in this game
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celeste is hitler?
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Shiv is going to be the new Victor isn't he?
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>>561082496
>Silver out of nowhere
As long as you're letting her live rent free in your head you should bring her some beer too, it's only proper
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graves skulls should fly into character's asses and vibrate for damage any time they're near graves
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>>561083340
No, he requires skill. Stop overreacting little troon
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Im glad they nerfed fagtor, fucking low skilled broken hero
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>Kelvin: Ice Path T2 increased from -20s Cooldown to -25s
Just faced a Kelvin with this buff, motherfucker was skating on ice the whole game after getting transcendent. How do I knock him off the ice?
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>>561083418
now i wish i was near graves
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>>561083364
>tranny pretending silver x celeste aren't shipped by xumblr trannies just as mentally as xer
KEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>561083448
>he requires skill
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>>561083192
The only problem with them is that they decide to focus on troopers instead of the enemy right next to them
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>>561083451
Victor downplayers won't like this
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>>561082048
I like to wait until ~1500 souls so it's enough for a t2 item and I get a shitload of buffs
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>>561082410
If Slork doesn’t have essence thief infinite scaling I’m gonna be very upset
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>>561083451
Victor is actually bottom tier now
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>>561083340
>+1 stam and QOL on his ult is gonna bump Shiv up 15% winrate
kekw
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>>561083508
If he's as broken as everyone claims, and also requires no skill, he'd be picked every single match and put up bullshit like braindead ass Calico or Wraith
But he isn't, and doesn't, because he's hard to play
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>>561083505
You can't just slap random x's all over your post and expect people to understand you, anon.
Have a little dignity.
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>>561083281
Rescue beam and then Ivy's ult
Viscous's cube and then rescue beam
Saving someone who's alone against 4 enemies
Saving someone from Dynamo's ult
I buy it every single game
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>>561083710
>downplaying fucking +1 stamina on a mobile tank
>downplaying that ult now allows him to instantly fly
>ignoring the fact that bloodletting (his most broken nigger ability) now heals way more
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If Yoshi wants to make games faster, he should change the soul reward scaling
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>>561083787
LMAOOOOOOOOOO TRANNIES
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>>561083880
Why are silver and celeste players like this?
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>>561083787
troon
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>>561083920
I play Celeste because the movement is fun but I hate the yuri trannies
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>troons still insisting that Silver is trans or some gay shit
Lmao keep coping
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>>561083826
you just one-trick him, he sounds busted AF!~
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should i always use dynamo ult as if i was mo n krill? toxic players always whine that i'm not ulting 24/7.
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deadlock points shop items when
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>>561083456
Knockdown.
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>>561083968
Nah just wifwolf appreciator
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Our boys out in the lab whipped up a team comp with the express purpose of being the most annoying comp in the game to fight.
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>>561084079
Just use the anvil if it's 2-3 people against 1
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>>561084079
It's always worth solo ulting the enemy teams strongest player if you can get the kill, but otherwise you get value getting 2-3 players minimum
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It's like they specifically targeted my build.......
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I AM THE COSMOS
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>watching some deathy and eido games
>every single game so far (6 games) the team with celeste wins


yeah these devs need to be raped
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>buffed melee Abrams again
why?
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>>561082231
??? she is fucking dogshit now
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>>561084592
went 2 weeks without being banned in NS
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>>561073181
idk but taking a break while waiting for it too.
shit is not fun with Ascendant "averages" AKA Eternus + Emissary to balance it out.
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>>561084292
your echoshard stoneform slop was never what Yoshi intended anyway. Get back to building Hybrid.
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oh i bumped the last thread-- im looking for some EASY as fuck to play heroes to accompany my SEVEN pick
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>>561074313
I used Miku upt build before the nerf before people know it was OP and it did no damage
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>>561084661
Maybe in your rank xister
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>>561078875
>2 S tiers
>2 A tiers
You're fine desu, i feel like you actually like shooting so whatever
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>>561084791
You want heroes that just do simple things without needing a wall of text? Any of the originals suit that well. Haze, Infernus, Abrams, etc. Haze is probably your best option. She has a sleep instead of a stun (Sleep doesn't interrupt channeled abilities)
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>>561084592
It's extremely apparent that the devs have absurd preferences.
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>>561073137
>miku one trick tard analblasted
lmaoooo fuck off
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>>561085024
>celeste buffs
yup
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>>561084972
haze was one of my original picks, but i find it tricky to get good value out of her ult, given the CD... ill play her a bunch in brawl i guess
ive also been having an easy time w/ kelvin and vyper
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>>561078875
Pretty solid, I find Warden to be way too boring though, Venator feels far more fun.
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>>561073548
they didn't even buff his 1/2 this patch retard. this is a straight nerf to victor as a whole outside of his reanimate range
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>>561085182
thankfully
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>nerf all boring op heroes
>buff gun
Yep, I'm thinking good patch
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>>561073024
As big as an ant
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>>561072902
>nerf Ivy's already useless stone form more
>nerf Graves' shitty ult even more
Yoshi, I know you are here— sincerely, kill yourself. At this point just can the game.
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>did a brawl match to try and get one of the new buffed legendaries
>got fucking haunting shot
noooo
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Silver's puffy cookie....
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>>561074313
I think the worst part is that it isn't that easy to tell when it's aiming at you
>>561085307
>already useless stone form
lol
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>another forced loss game
im sorry that my win rate climbed above 50% again please have some fucking mercy i beg you
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>>561085307
bait
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>>561073024
They scaled down the range items across the board along with some minor damage nerfs to her ult. It still rapes everything but at least it doesn't cover the entire map anymore.
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How bad is Mo and Krill now?
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spirit abrams with witchmail is kind of retarded
I was just chain shoulder charging the whole enemy team
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why are these retarded patches always
>took what make a hero strong and moved it to T1 of their first ability
these are not nerfs or buffs these aren't even an attempt to balance shit
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>gun is weak
you retards have been saying this forever, even during the strongest gun metas where even LASH was building gun. I'm convinced the only reason the turboshitters itt ever think this is because neither they nor their pisslow teammates can aim but they assume their inability to deal damage must be the game's fault
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>>561085403
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>>561085460
witchmail is good yeah
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>>561085471
Because the devs are retarded and to boot they now take feedback exclusively from streamers in the sekrit alpha
It's why the balance has gotten progressively worse over time and it was never good to begin with
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>>561085460
witchmail silver is actually secretly OP and it only got better with the T3 ult buffs giving you more consistent full refreshes
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>>561085446
he definitely can't solo kill anyone above like 300 health early now. he's still incredibly strong but it at least feels like his early game isn't as big of a problem anymore, which is big considering that he's probably the only character that's a problem at every stage of the game
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The ability range nerfs on items was much needed. Warden doesn't feel as AIDS with his binding word now.
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>>561085471
the devs don't care anymore and the devs who do care are retarded. they're content to cycle the meta between the same 10 heroes over and over until the game dies prematurely
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>The team with celeste in the first 2 pages of the live matches is winning
>Would be the first 3 pages but the ONE game she's losing she still has top souls

how can they be this retarded
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>Yoshi pulled the trigger to the back of Celeste's head during the laning phase
That falloff damage nerf is brutal kek
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>>561086127
literally watching eido do 200 damage to a venator in lane with shots only from like 30 miles away and taking 2 people at 150 hp right now
is this gonna be another waifufag downplay situation
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>they changed Billy's idle posture
Why and also it sucks now
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>>561085307
Retard.
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Who do YOU think has heavy nerfs on the way. For me, it's graves
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>>561086278
Are people downplaying Victor right now for acknowledging the existence of nerfs?
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>>561085446
>no&skill
>ever being bad
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>>561086278
>top player is playing at a top level
?
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i like the capslock guy

he's all like KEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>561086612
He was absolutely useless the one game he didn't get celeste
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>>561077123
Did they need to nerf his bell damage at the same time though? I don't mind if they nerf kidnap memes just let me deal damage.
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Ye every game i am in now Graves absolutely dominates and is insufferable. She didn't need those buffs at all.
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>character gets parts of their kit nerfed
>other parts of their kit get buffed to make up for it

That's typically how Yoshi handles these balance patches as opposed to just nuking a character into uselessness like players ask for
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scarab changes feel great for building a tanky mirage alas dispel magic completely counters this dude still
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>>561086874
She did need SOME buffs though, let's not pretend
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>>561087015
the only thing (and may allah forgive me for even uttering her name) graves NEEDS is to be removed from the game and a fatwa issued on yoshi
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>another abysmal dogshit balance update
I think I'm done
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>>561086874
that auto aim do be hittin doe!
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>>561087190
see you later tonight bwo
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If Graves is not hotfixed into the ground I am done playing this game period, they somehow managed to ruin the only good mode left (brawl)
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>>561087205
Is nice until you keep hitting shit you don't want.
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awooooo
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>Ricochet Celeste becomes more viable
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Remember when dotards used to worship Icefraud as some balancing genius lmao
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get real
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>>561087408
always has been
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>>561086331
bebop. he's the number 1 hero shitters complain about and nerfing him would have 0 impact as he's nothing more than a glorified hookbot in elos that require a double digit iq. in this same patch they would of course include a buff to a hero so huge it'd make the wraith changes look mild in comparison
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>15:00 into game
>be drifter with point blank, weighted shots, hunter's aura
>can't burst down isolated infernus before his faggot ass dot kills me
This should not be the case
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>>561086704
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>wah wah wah nerf goth cunny nwo!!!!
lol keep crying
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>>561086331
they're buffing infernus before killing him
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Grave whiner tears are delicious!!!
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>>561085403
based
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>>561087190
Anon this is like the 321291th time this happens.
Make some noise and complain in the forums or stop playing all together, it's never gonna improve
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>>561087528
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>all previous threads
>waaaaah graves weak
>waaaah graves useless
>yoshi buffs graves
>noooo now graves rapes meeeee neeeeeeeeeerf
why are 4channitors like this?
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>All the celeste defenders stop posting
>Random graves whining out of nowhere when she's still shit and still only terrorizes retard ranks

hmmmm
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>>561082574
>apollo muffs
>gun damage and parry melee damage ramp
>celeste tranny buffs
>even fucking more spirit damage on mutiple abilities AND increased gun damage
kys troon
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>>561087472
because dota gets actual changes without compensation buffs
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>>561087552
>they're buffing infernus before killing him
They are going to have to keep buffing infernus until he actually has the pro players use him, there is no way you'd take him over mina, or venator right now, and even after the top idk if you'd take him over haze or now nerfed wraith
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>>561087535
>>561087687
who's he talking to lads
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The jailbaitniggers are going to mass suicide when graves is nerfed in 2 weeks after they downplay for the next 13 days
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ayo chat, the m1ggers vs 1234eigners situation is insane!
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>Unselect Doorman
>Select Graves
Yoshi wants this and I shall abide
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>Decide to play some of the new Deadlock patch after I jerk off
>End up busting to AI chat bot scenario where a bunch of masochistic slutty samurai warriors worship me
>traitor samurai commits sepuku while I impregnate her wife and make her cum full nelson pissing on her wife's corpse
>Still want to play deadlock but it's really awkward due to the pure disgust I am filled with right now
Anyways did the patch do anything to graves?
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>>561087687
Because these retards don't actually play the game, they just want to whine about how how 'x is killing the game, I'm uninstalling' despite the playrate being pretty stable.
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>>561082574
then why did only a handful of heroes got those buffs?
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>>561087763
I have no idea how to build Infernus effectively. He wants like every gun item, every spirit item and a lot of greens
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>>561087721
What could Celeste even do in the lategame aside from being an ultbot?
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>another love tap to wraith
kill this fucking character already. that rework has been a huge mistake for this game
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>>561087903
that's why he's bad, he needs everything
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>>561087878
eh I've jerked off to weirder shit
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>>561087824
>he's back
Finally unbanned huh?
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>>561087903
Infernus is John Breakpoint
Just keep hitting the 3 breakpoints and stacking aids on your gun
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victor nerfs did nothing
no amount of anti heal can deal with this piece of shit
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>>561085307
I've been running a stone form build for a week with like 70% winrate.
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>>561084487
>deathy and eido games
don't care about "pros" and their games. subhumans deserve to suffer and eat shit
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>>561087913
>what can the character with stacking damage ramp, who usually buys escalating exposure, gets free lifesteal and a huge shield that makes her practically immortal do
retard retard retard
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>>561088070
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEK 1234eigners got NERFED
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>>561084487
Before the patch Deathy was eating shit with Celeste
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>>561087472
Has literally never happened, EVERY update has /d2g/ screaming that the game is now literally League going back at least 10 years.
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>>561088103
They could make victor explode on contact with a single light melee and you niggers would still refuse to buy even one (1) silence wave to deal with him. A char like this just can't exist in a game where 50% of the playerbase unironically has never played a moba before.
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>add selected text to filters
unfunny forced meme = gone
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>>561088070
I knew he was unbanned when I saw "KEEEEEEEEEK" on another post.
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Celeste poke damage is just broken

nerf this fucking tranny already
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>>561087878
the only time i've felt disgusted was a rape ai chat bot scenario
guess i'm not built to be a rapist
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>Holliday is already dogshit
>All range items and spirit get massively nerfed across the board
>Zero buffs
>Yamato is just a weaker celeste and had like 48/49% wr, pretty much replaced by the hero
>Gets a bug fix that massively nerfs her, but also nerfed by spirit changes
>Zero buffs
>Celeste gets buffs to make up for the spirit nerf but also gets extra buffs, with some mild nerfs that don't do much

???
Someone please make this make sense
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Reminder bara gods run this game
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>>561084487
celestrannies already seething at this TRVKE KEEEEEEEEEK
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>>561088308
>silence wave to deal with him
qrd?
t. dumb newfriend
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is graves a gun or spirit hero
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>>561088321
Every time you announce this he just edits his unfunny meme to get around it, stop it
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>>561088103
Victor is nearly useless now
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>>561088308
and if we built silence wave it would just be "ugh you retards refuse to build slowing bullets" victorfags always have a fucking laundry list of counters they think you should be obligated to purchase to stop them from going 1v11 the entire map
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Besides performance getting somehow worse every patch I don't see what you're all complaining about.
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i have a slight suspicion that the meleegods guy and the graves autist who keeps talking about marvel rivals might be the same person
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>>561073113
Calm down Mina!
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>oh no Viscous is B tier better nerf him into oblivion
>oh no Abrams is B tier better buff him back to S tier
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>>561087687
get this, the ones who wanted graves buffs and the ones complaining about them are different people
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>>561088367
They nerfed Celeste's poking capability though
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>>561088404
We still need a bara support to flesh out every "role"
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>>561088415
the bulk of victor's self heal and debuff removal comes from spamming his 2, if you silence wave him he just falls over. silence wave is also just really strong in general but pisslows don't know how to use actives other than healing rited
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>>561088562
we have like 3
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>>561088463
You may be onto something anon...
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>>561088404
>game is run by poop worm parasites
That would explain some things, certainly
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>>561088397
Because Holliday is getting completely reworked. Same reason why Sinclair and Vyper didn't get shit either.
Also
>Yamato weaker Celeste
They occupy completely different niches. Yamato is a very tanky burst / pseudo-carry character while Celeste is an agile burst disruptor that starts strong and falls off hard late
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>>561088367
>avoid getting shot
>she's useless
it's not that hard
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>>561088397
>Yamato is just a weaker celeste
what dis nigga on
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"five eyes" is kinda funny
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>>561088640
Kelvin barely counts, so who are the other 2?
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>Victor was too strong for retards who refused to itemize so we're giving him healbane by default
t-thanks pisslow :(
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>victards playing victim already
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>>561088783
She has one of the shittiest guns in the game too
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>>561084487
>Out of curiousity join Deathy's stream
>He's reporting someone for having "H.H" in their name because teh nazis.
Are you fucking kidding me.
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>>561088783
>bro just avoid the auto tracking bullets that go through towers lol
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>>561088924
Fuck nazis.
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>>561088843
I'm not making like 4 items just to counter your retard ass that needs to buy zero counter items to anything
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>>561088924
This is how you end up with players named K***ht in Souls games
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>>561088829
mo, dynamo, viscous
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>>561088924
Deathy and any other pro that has y at the end of their name are low T failed males idk what you expected
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>>561088487
>Changes that specifically target dribbling and puddle punch being fucking obnoxious as hell even if you have good ping.
>Nerfed to oblivion.
LOL
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>>561088981
i'm one :3 discord?
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>>561088981
based sis, I love Israel
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>>561088998
>pisslow thinking you need to build 4 items to counter Victor
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how do you play haze (in brawl)? i was doing 0 damage
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>>561087903
You build fire rate/mag size/spirit power/duration/lifesteal and then they build dispel magic and plated armour and you aren't allowed to ever do damage again.
Until they change the way Infernus's 3 works, he will only ever beat shitters who refuse to but a 3200 item that completely cucks his damage.
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>playing against a team of broken op heroes
>decide i dont wanna waste my free time playing against this
>just quit
it's so freeing knowing i can just leave and not force myself to be held hostage for 40+ minutes
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>>561088924
>Persons initials are HH
>Get banned because leftards can only think in politics 24/7
I should name myself Stalin or Polpot genocide lover and receives countless praise.
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>>561088924
Deathy was just doing it to appease his chat that as whining but he's still a faggot.
"Whatever just let valve sort it out."
>>561088981
But "H.H 24" could genuinely fucking mean anything. It could just be that dudes initials or it stands for literally anything else.
We're really at the point where people piss themselves over two fucking initials.
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>>561089130
Try to prioritize getting sustain and build stacks. If you see Mercurial Magnum, get that shit ASAP and put it on your dagger. Don't bother ulting unless it's clean-up or you have sustain + Unstoppable.
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>>561088924
panasonic bluray
ninety nine dollars
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victor is near unplayable now. ult "buffs" are absolutley worthless because no one gets hit by his ult ever
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>>561088605
I see yeah it makes sense thanks anon
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>>561088829
Dynamo, Kelvin, maybe Mo&Krill but he's more of a tank
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Wanna fucking kill the Valve employee that decided to give doornigga shit like

>tps you to walker and enemy spawn cause haha fuck you
>oh? wanna kill me? TOO BAD NIGGA I GOT CHEAT DEATH AND I'M GONE
>oh you wanna push mid? TOO BAD NIGGA GET POKED BY MY KRILL AND ULT'D HAHAHA

why can this asshole TELEPORT YOU HALFWAY ACROSS THE MAP by the way? Like it's so bullshit
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>>561080415
>Also how good is Graves
She's actually viable now, her 3 passive now does something instead of being a meme, she has some sustaine now so you can pull off a 1 vs 2 if you're the better player whereas before 1 vs 1 were almost always a death sentence, she can actually fight up close now, her grasping hands now summons ghouls on tier 3 so it's good even if they double jump it, her ult also summons 2 ghouls at tier 0 so it's not so shit anymore
>and Miku now
I think she was buffed, her turrets have longer range and her gun does more, her ult got nerfed
>>561080445
Shiv's stamina recovery got raped desu, idk how that will effect him since i don't play shiv, as usual he'll either go 20/0 or 0/20 so ultimately nothing changed
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>>561086874
>t. alchemist
Graves is still a big soul bag and nothing more
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>>561089409
I wouldn't even care if Victor was nerfed into being unplayable as long as it was done in a way that actually makes sense, but nerfing a character by just nuking their gimmick is objectively retarded.
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>>561089532
didn't graves always have innate bullet lifesteal? its just shit because her gun does no damage
did they give her even more lifesteal?
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>>561089409
To be honest what they should just do is rework Aura of Suffering into just being an unstoppable toggle that drains your health and buffs other aspect of your kit, like Mundo's ult or some shit.
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>>561088812
I wanna know what synthetic meats has to do with having five eyes
That's my question
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>>561087594
>Make some noise and complain in the forums or stop playing all together
I ain't writing shit on the forums, imagine doing volunteer work for a multi-billion dollar company
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>>561089519
>GET POKED BY MY KRILL AND ULT'D
what does this mean
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>>561089532
The nerf to Miku's ult is pretty fucking massive but still a little too strong, at least now there's an actual incentive to build her other ways rather than just being an obnoxious ultbot
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>>561089772
oh noo.. they'll be so sad to lose (You). remember to downvote the game when it releases
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>>561088974
>i know that my opponent has a gun that pierces through stuff
>i'm gonna stand behind turret and let her bounce shots off the turret directly on my low HP ass
I bet you also rush into melee range when geist is low
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>>561089772
Saved, gonna use this pic in future arguments when people ask my hours!
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>>561089813
I meant stunned not poked aiee. am tired. more tired of doornigger bullshit though
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>victors lifesteal is reduced for him personally

I don't like the idea of this change, I wanted him to be nerfed but this is just a poor bandaid
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Is anyone here actually an Eternus like I actually am? Actually?
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>>561081259
>now if you have low base hp your hero is just permanently fucked
Not really, new graves has sustain so it's kino imo
>>561081260
Ult now summons 2 level one, she's clearly being adjusted to be more od a rush down gun character, also the change helps with people who double jump over the root wasting all of your 8 point investments
>>561081775
Anon dynamo's ult, ivy's kudzu and paige's fat pulsating literature were all the side of blue street, it's too fucking fat, literally all a dynamo has to do is look in your general direction while stomping and he'll hit you from 20+ meters away, and god forbid he has ult, he'll literally catch everyone within the same zip code which is plain brainless, now he at least has to invest more items to do the same shit
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>>561089761
mutant meat
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I'm eternus btw
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Silver still sucks actually she still NEEDS buffs.
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I'm infernus btw
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>>561089772
Updooted! You have my spork fellow sir!
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>>561089350
thx... yea i dont know. im against like an apollo or something every time, and im tickling away while they fly around chunking me
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just got home from work whats the tldr on the new patch
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>>561090215
dogshit
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>>561090215
le patch le sucks!!!!!!! big dong!! according to the gen
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>>561090215
Victor dead
Mo and Krill dead
Calico dead
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So does Graves shift away from gun items back to spirit build now? Or a hybrid kind of thing?
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>>561090191
The only thing my wife Silver sucks is me
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>>561083826
>>downplaying that ult now allows him to instantly fly
Doesn't apollo have the same shit?
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>>561090215
Fine aside from Victor getting an exclusive debuff that cucks his and only his lifesteal
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>>561089915
I'm sure all 10 devs working on the game are devastated
>remember to downvote the game when it releases
yeah can't wait to leave a negative review in 2030 when the game releases
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>>561090204
Took em out!
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>>561090323
Calico is NOT dead I don't know what the fuck you're on about; she is still cancer as always to deal with
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Game is so fucking bugged right now holy shit. We had a Sinclair who couldn't use his ult for half the game and he constantly emitted Bebop ult sound.

Small indie company.
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>>561090468
like bimtendo!
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>>561090215
No more abilities taking up the width of the entire lane at least
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I'm genuinely starting to believe that they don't know how to balance now
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>>561085307
>useless stone form
Y..Yeah man.....totally useless just don't look at my match history.....
>20 fucking games of abusing ivy and winning
>nerf Graves' shitty ult even more
Worth it for the gun buffs, also all they did was give her 1 less zombie and 2 more on another ability so idk, it seems like a buff
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>>561090191
yeah she sucks the cum out of my dick with her delicious cookie
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>>561090215
Doorman getting fucked by proxy due to Paige being a fucking cunt
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>zzerial saying he doesn't want to play victor anymore
damn
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>>561090653
haha kwab
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>>561090653
deadlock community shocked by this revelation. billions must mourn
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>>561090468
>he constantly emitted Bebop ult sound.
clip? sounds hysterical
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>>561090653
who?
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is krill italian or something

what's with the accent
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This fucking nigger faggot took my Haze from me. I hope he gets ebolaids and blows his brains out. Absolute subhuman trash.
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>>561091025
damn... i kinda dont care
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>>561090598
It crazy people say stone form is bad because even if it did no damage, even if it didn't stun, it's free damage immunity on a short cd.
I've used it to dodge so many ults and knockdowns.
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>>561090553
lowkenuinely the only heroes that are somewhat balanced are the pre-vote in heroes
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>>561091025
you will never be the graves schizo
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they should run
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>>561086331
I hope not desu but i wouldn't be suprised, unfortunately /ourgirl/ gets alot of hate, in a just world it would be venator
>>561086874
Literally just dash back once retard, apollo M&K etc still win close quarters and early game, while vindicta and mina etc still can rape her without allowing her to fight back, all that happened is that now she can actually fight up close without immediately dying and can summon things more reliably instead of busting her load with ult and then dying
>>561087878
>spoiler
i know the feel unfortunately
>Anyways did the patch do anything to graves?
She's now playable, her 3 tier 4 isn't dogshit, her 2 isn't usless on tier 4 too and she can summon more reliably minnons more reliably
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>>561091025
you moved on from graves very quick
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>>561090084
I'm asc 6 does that work
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>just taking like 1k curse damage from Pocket per second and he isn't even hitting me
who designed this retard-tier hero?
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>>561091072
I do I should be allowed to just pick my champ like any other moba.
>>561091106
I don't care I will use these generals to put these faggots on blast until everyone learns haze can only be played by me and everyone else can get fucked.
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>>561091163
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Do you still get damage from Doorman ult if you escape? If yes, that's bullshit.
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>>561091163
I'm surprised Pocket still isn't considered top tier
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>>561091219
damn..... i dont really care what you think you should be allowed to do either
fancy that
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>>561091335
because he's asian and he has a tiny dick so they are eternally victims
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>>561091313
Yes. This is a known mechanic of his ult. Doorman is bullshit? Well, fork found in kitchen.
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>>561091163
curse does no damage
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>>561091335
because any good player gets counterspell and presses F the second pocket screams his "im ulting right now" voice line
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>>561091163
they call it toxic bullets, or decay or sum. sum bullshit pocket mechanic
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>>561089957
>completely missing the point
RETARD LAERT
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LAERT
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ALERT*
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>>561089630
>didn't graves always have innate bullet lifesteal?
Yes
>its just shit because her gun does no damage
Correct, her 1 being easily counterable and her 2 and 3 being fucking useless didn't help
>did they give her even more lifesteal?
No but now that she can suck two people and summon 2 zombies for any double jumping niggers she can actually survive slightly better, early game is still tough but late game is way fucking better, you can actually fight someone like haze and you will unironically have a chance of killing her, whereas before it felt like a death sentence to even attempt an even fight and even in favourable fights you were mostly just a low priority nuisance
>>561089830
Fair, honestly i always kept my distance because i didn't want to be raped by the 20 hidden turrets so i never experienced her ult in full bullshit form so i don't have any strong opinions, her turrets will be more annoying tho, especially since they apply a 100 debuffs still
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>victor is a completely useless pick now because shitlows couldn't buy a single counter item
Thanks shitlows...
I'm glad Icefraud is willing to torpedo the entire game to appease you.
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>>561091754
Healbane wasn't the real counter anyways
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idk im playing with my victor duo and we doing pretty well so far on high archon/low oracle
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i really never saw any victors in my games and im oracle 6.....
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>>561090332
She's now more gun and sustain oriented, spirit wouldn't be bad too so ideally you'd want all 3(greens gun and spirit) but the priority is now gun>=green>>spirit
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>these heroes are not getting changes that take 5 seconds to do because...
>OF THE REWORKS THEY'RE GONNA GET WITH A NEW MODEL AND A NEW PATCH THAT WILL FIX EVERYTHING

>ignore how they've done nothing but retarded changes since day 1
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>>561091754
glory to the celeste administration
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>>561091163
>350 damage 1 min in on the match
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>>561091896
>Archon
>Oracle
That's shitlow.
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>>561091754
I bought on average 3 anti-heals against him, 2 of which were crippling and healbane. He still simply held W and walked in the middle of my team while doing the most damage and being priority n°1 simply for existing. Assendant btw.
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>>561090046
It's gonna get reverted fast
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>>561091961
thank god i don't want to play agaisnt tryhards
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Is this item any good? It does way less melee damage than crushing fists and doesn't have the sustain of lifestrike
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>>561091967
what a based individual
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>>561091967
It was never just a single counter item against him. You needed several.
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>>561091967
Which hero were you??
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>play carry
>win
>play support
>lose
It really was my dogshit teammates all along, huh
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>>561092092
Paradox mostly.
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Why is it that after every single loss when I check my teammates they're all on horrible loss streaks and/or off heroes but the enemy is always on their mains with winstreaks

this shit genuinely feels forced
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>>561091961
said the eternus
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>>561092141
>wasting time checking profiles instead of just practicing and playing better
ngmi
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I have literally zero problems with the Victor nerfs, he should be a tank, not a tank AND a 1 million damage hypercarry
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>>561091087
Unironically? It's fucking bullshit and needs a nerf asap, most broken ability in the game imo, but since most fans are retarded I'm happy to exploit that since I've always been a spirit fag and the guaranteed melee is so fucking kino it gives you a boner, her kudzu being meh and her ult being a high utility low damage tools make up for it and ""balance"" her a bit but ultimately that ability is unfair since it's unironically allows a good ivy player to build 0 greens and still survive most fights getting 3~8 kill streaks before dying, the only reason no one complains is because these retards never play ivy or go support/gun instead of spirit/melee. So yeah as i was saying, dogshit ability for a dogshit hero needs buffs yoshi plz
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>>561092131
Playing solo support is suicide, you never know if the matchmaking decided to give you all the feedertards to force 50/50 winrates
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>puddle punch basically untouched
I'm not reinstalling
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- Silver: Slam Fire Weapon Accuracy reduced from -25% to -30%
- Silver: Go For The Throat, Boot Kick and Mauling Leap now benefit from range increases
- Silver: Boot Kick now uses a break-off angle when grounded, allowing upward movement if looking up enough
- Silver: Tail Whack spirit scaling increased from 1 to 1.5
- Silver: Lycan Curse now grants 1.5m Move Speed
- Silver: Lycan Curse T1 increased from +18% Resists to +20%
- Silver: Lycan Curse T2 increased from +150 Bonus Health to +200
- Silver: Lycan Curse T3 now has a 1.5s buffer for kill credit

These are pointless placebo buffs, the range thing does literally nothing because none of Silver's items have range increases due to the nature of her kit.
>2% more resist
>50 more hp
>your reset now lets you win a fight that you already won (this was always the case)

Giving her baseline 3 stamina would be a much bigger buff than any of this shit
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>>561092028
>It does way less melee damage than crushing fists
Literally half the price and gives you more spirit power and gives your enemies less spirit power and resist
>and doesn't have the sustain of lifestrike
Lifestrike doesn't do as much damage
>worth?
Depends on your build desu
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>>561092028
not since they nerfed it 8 times
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>>561088981
>Fuck nazis.
Gladly.
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>>561092131
>buy 4 active items to counter enemy team
>no one else in my team tries to counter
>gets raped
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>yoshi when abrams hasn't been top 3 for a single patch
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>>561092131
Who's the best carry with Victor gone now?
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>>561092501
maybe this is why people in solo should tell their team to buy counters instead of hoping and praying for the fucking best that the feedtards suddenly stop tard'ing
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>>561092390
it literally does half the damage it did 2 weeks ago and comes out slower
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>>561092436
>Giving her baseline 3 stamina would be a much bigger buff than any of this shit
Her kit already gives her extra stamina and a long dash just buy the 800 item if you can't make that work because otherwise you're leading her head first into heavy nerfs
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>>561092327
>her kudzu being meh and her ult being a high utility low damage tools
t-true we need more buffs...
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>>561092586
yoshi when someone mentions the mere idea of a celeste nerf
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>seven and bebop double teams in brool again
stop buffing braindead characters
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>>561092436
I'm pretty sure some tards were buying culsac on her before, but yeah, nothing burger buff.
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>>561092586
i know right

fucking big blue nigger mascot character not allowed to be bad
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>>561092636
it's still insanely spammable in a teamfight with zero consequence or risk
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>>561092390
Puddle punch is parryable now
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>>561092640
>Her kit already gives her extra stamina
Not when she actually needs it
You get 2 stamina on boot kick only, when you collide with a target. You don't get it on the approach and you don't get it in wolf form when you actually need it
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>>561092589
Do spirit + lifesteal Abrams if you were a Victor onetrick
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>>561088981
Only if they created futa dommy mommies through eugenics to rape the lesser races into submission
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I uninstalled again, cya in 6 months for the next real update
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niggas be holding the install button hostage, saying they'll never reinstall like john valve really gives a shit
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How do I do that zip-line boost thing I see the pros do? I read about it and I tried making it work but its really inconsistent.

Like how they come from it sideways and then break off maintaining momentum.
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>>561092882
see ya tomorrow!! :P
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>Queue brool
>Enemy paige gets refresher and alchemical fire first round
>We can't stand near anything and lose 3-0
>She says ez
How do I respond without sounding mad?
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I have misplaced my uninstall button and cannot threaten or commend valve for their choices
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>15m into the game my russian nigger duo have fed an infernus to 30k
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>>561092586
He's a developers pet hero. So is Celest.
You can tell because all they ever get is small numbers getting changed around or straight huge buffs.
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>>561092984
skill issue
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Victor literally got gutted for no reason
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>>561092984
"nigger"
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>>561093053
So who's the developer's little bitch that they abuse and beat with whips to their heart's content?
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>>561092586
>>561093053
He wasn't even bad, actually just good but overshadowed by the horrid balance in the last patch.
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>>561092984
queue up for next game emotionlessly
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>>561092896
>uninstall because the game is dogshit
>mentally ill valvedrone thinks you must be doing it out of spite and to hurt the feelings of the precious devs
KEK
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>>561093052
I hate Infernus so much
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>>561093139
Shiv
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>gutted for no reason
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>>561092984
this is gonna sound weird but have you tried screaming the N word?
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>>561092648
yeah....absolutely dogshit kit baka baka..... idk what yoshi was thinking....
>>561092720
>You get 2 stamina on boot kick only, when you collide with a target.
God forbid you have to aim and land your ability
>you don't get it in wolf form when you actually need it
If only wolf form had a whole other dash in wolf form that applied bleed, PLUS a tail whip that applied both disarm and a heavy slow.....also IF ONLY...yoshi give her 4 extra movment speed.....
You know what anon? You're right, i think you should tell yoshi about all of these great ideas so that he would implement them
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>>561093139
Bebop or Mirage
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>>561093156
>uninstall because the game is dogshit
back to your triple aaa slop or uninspired indie dev slop, I see? oh well at least you have minecraft, right? lmaooooooooo see ya next week nigga
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>>561093126
>for no reason
>>561093139
Mirage for sure, that man already had a 30% winrate and they nerfed him...
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>>561093268
>completely dodging the point
I accept your concession
You don't get the stamina restore when you actually need it, and half or more of it is wasted more often than not
Thanks for playing
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>>561093268
if not troon where boob?
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>>561093156
you are literally spamming the thread about it
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>>561093354
>y-y-you'll be back next week
last time I uninstalled I didn't play for a year lmao
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Keking based!
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I swear to god these people find new ways to flabbergast me every time I check back on this page
Why the fuck can't they just write something NORMAL
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>>561093410
>Thanks for playing
Your welcome
>>561093428
Did you check under the couch?
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>>561092917
i dont know
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>>561093436
>make 2 posts
>you're heckin spamming the thread
cope
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>Graves: Grasping Hands T3 changed from "+1s Immobilize and -12s Cooldown" to "+1s Immobilize and +2 Ghouls Summoned"
???

Grave's W summons ghouls now? so what happens if a bunch of minions runs into it?
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>>561093572
kinda based tbdesu
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I'm so fucking done with matchmaking, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME I'M KEY PLAYER AND WE STILL LOSE WHAT THE FUCK MAN
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HOLY SHIT
MINA IS SO MUCH STRONGER ITS FUCKING INSANE
the ult actually does consistent dmg now
wow
expect nerfs xd
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>>561093572
Honest degeneracy vs reddit's covert yuri gooning
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REMOVE REBUTTAL
MELEECHADS RISE UP
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>>561093572
this is the most basic "kinky" smutfic you could post. it's just mpreg rape and not even real mpreg rape because it's making pocket a female-to-male transoid. pathetic.
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>>561093516
>i-i-i-i-i-i didn't play for a year!
la-dee-fuckin-da, mate. you want a gold medal from newell himself for your deadlock abstinence? kek
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>>561093716
MY QUEEN
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>>561093672
>Grave's W
??? I guess you meant 2 and yes it does if you upgrade it, this is additional to the rooting effect
>so what happens if a bunch of minions runs into it?
They get trapped and two ghouls slowly hit them, clearly it's being geared for fights
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>>561093572
>Misgendering is a fucking fetish people have
Damn I didn't know I was making Pocket mains horny by calling him a man and not a they/them
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>>561093707
c-c-cya tomorrow
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>>561093720
>no hrnggh we die like nhhgr--
*vomits*
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>>561093572
lmao god bless ao3
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I'm not reinstalling until they fix the matchmaking and stop pairing me with new players against stacks in archon
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I feel like he speaks for all of us
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>>561093572
>trans
Why do you search for this shit and post it here you disgusting faggot? I really don't need to see that shit
>>561093720
>yuri
Literally every character in that image is a man
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>>561093880
you know shit is dire when metro is correct
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I'm not reinstalling! Yeah, let's see how the devs like that, haha! Take that valvedrones!!! That's what you get for Yoshi for nerfing that character I liked! Fuck you Yoshi! Get FUCKED!!! I'm no longe reinstalling... FOREVER! Na-na-na-naa-naa! Boo-boo-bo-bo-booo-booo!
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>>561093806
Yes, league brain.
>They get trapped and two ghouls slowly hit them, clearly it's being geared for fights
Ok but do they then start pushing down the lane like regular ghouls do?
Can I auto push two lanes at once?
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>>561093880
Accurate though. I actually agree with the gay kraut furfag for once.
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>>561093572
why are women like this
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>>561093572
>oh no a smutfic featuring a crackship
stop acting like a 20 year old puriteen
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>>561090653
>click stream
>1/10 as abrams
>chat is talking about playing risk of rain together or some shit
zzzzz
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>>561094023
deadlock devs... in shambles...
player #337201, please reinstall....... daddy yoshi misses you, and only you...
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>>561093672
It summons 2 ghouls when you cast the spell, kinda like mcginnis' wall and the turrets
It's not 2 ghouls per rooted enemy
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OH YOU GOT BUMPED TO RITUALIST? HERE, 5 MATCHES IN A ROW OF ONLY RETARDS IN YOUR TEAM AND ALL LOSES TO GET YOU BACK TO ARCANIST 3
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>>561092984
just rape her bro
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>>561093774
she feels so much stronger its insane with the ult actually doing damage now instead of maybe dmg maybe nothing
wow
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>>561093840
>>Misgendering is a fucking fetish people have
>he doesn't know
most transgender men want to be "misgendered" in bed by a dominant real (biological) male and that's not hyperbole, you can find pages and pages and pages of those kind of /trash/-style gooner captions directed towards FTM transes
anyway deadlock?
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>>561094051
>>oh no a smutfic featuring a crackship
>stop acting like a 20 year old puriteen
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>Garbage balance patch
>All motivation to play the game gone in an instant
Anybody else?
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>>561094131
oh yeah and the umbrella change is insane too, feels so much smoother and easier to use
rake is a bit more unreliable vs monsters i guess but u get used to it
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>>561094237
yea
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>>561094237
Victor tranny got assraped lmao
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>>561094124
>nooo yoshi boost me
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>>561093572
Still waiting on a Paradox/Reader fic
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>>561094048
*scoffs* and they say MEN want to rape everything. why do we still let the women who write this shit freely roam in our schools?
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>>561094124
send me your steamid and I'll boost you dw
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the item and general changes are fine its just the hero changes this patch
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>>561094169
>that pic
kek
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>deadlockers start the cope again
20k ccu incoming
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>>561094027
>Yes, league brain.
Same lmao, i fucking love briar
>>561094027
>Ok but do they then start pushing down the lane like regular ghouls do?
Literally same as normal ghouls in every way
>Can I auto push two lanes at once?
You can try i guess but rem does that better imo, the ghouls die easily and even if nothing touches them they die on their own whereas rem give minions infinite heals resists and damage
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>>561091347
Yet you type all these sentences to me rent free nigger.
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>>561093867
Lina hero when?
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>>561093880
>I feel like he speaks for all of us
You know damn well he's just saying this because his crutches got nerfed.
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>check the patchnotes dude everything is FUCKED
nothing i can do about it, what am i supposed to do? play a game that doesn't have drifter in it?
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>>561094424
>deadlockerss... le coping!!!! xD
Could you be a little more specific?
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>>561093572
The Greater Expansion+Ability Range nerfs just made all the vore fics unrealistic, thanks for nothing yoshi.
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>>561094237
No because you fags post same crybaby shit after every patch
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>going onto ao3
>expecting it to be normal
lmao they have a kiddy diddling tag for a reason, what were you expecting?
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am i the only one who thinks Abrams is balanced
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>>561094557(me)
I meant inflation FUCK
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>7/7 wins today
i'm so back
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>>561094649
I won't cry tears when that site inevitably gets shut down, FUCK FOIDS
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>>561094516
>Could you be a little more specific?
here's some examples
>>561094597
>>561094023
>>561093760
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>>561092716
So is fucking half the skills in the game??
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>>561094651
But he's blue???
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>they still dont know what the fuck to do with mirage
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how the fuck does this guy eido have almost 3k viewers all he does is suck his own dick and talk about esports how its gonna be really big and his team should be signed to an org already
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I am so tired of games where my team got an advantage just to fuck it all up and lose it
These games are always 50 minutes long, just to make it worse
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Heroes for this feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkUVToIfrKg
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>>561094764
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>>561094908
shiv
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what the hell
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>>561094862
they don't know what to do with the game in general
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>>561094876
hes such an annoying pisspants i cant stand his weak mental
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>>561094876
he's deadlock's faker
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just reset back to pre old gods at this point and run it from the top
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>>561094992
read nigga read
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>>561095082
oh ive read that one its good
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>>561095082
wait drop the link
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>>561094876
he griefed so hard he made silver look good
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>>561095170
https://archiveofourown.org/works/70409226
https://archiveofourown.org/works/76512201
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how the hell did this give me mvp, silver was running about raping everyone on the map the entire game lol.
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IN HERE
I AM KING
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>>561094890
I mean that's better than every game being a stomp.
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>Mfs complaining about doorman vortex web door bs like he's peak shiv all of a sudden
I don't fucking get it. A gimmick that shouldn't work on you more than once puts you on the same stage as wraith nowadays.
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>>561095115
are you really being jaded over a game that's in alpha
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>>561095302
>Most obj damage
That's why
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>>561093572
Gay closted larper
>>561095082
Based authentic degenerate
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>>561095309
Not really
I would rather lose a game quickly, I don't want to sit and watch my team slowly losing for 50+ minutes
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I won so hard with this patch, you all lost, pack it up losers this patch was made for people with taste
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>>561094992
Im blind, can you please elaborate?
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>Chat! Am I getting old?
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>>561094862
>OH GOD NOT AG-
>THE CURRENT COURSES THROUGH ME
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>>561094992
>>561095826
literally saw it as I posted, disregard. Good change for doorbrother
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>>561095864
Rem thinks it's pretty funny
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>calico nerf
>wraith nerf
>victor nerf
>ivy nerf
>miku nerf
>/dlg/ still complaining
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>>561096112
>>561096112
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>>561095493
Winning with a stomp is pretty boring too.
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>>561094876
>talk about esports how its gonna be really big
Here's your next big esport bro
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>>561096136
I'd take a stomp win over losing
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>>561094862
>Apollo day 1
>Celeste day 1
>Calico and Wraith buffs the patch before last.
>The m1 meta months ago
>Doorman buffs nerfs changes every single fucking patch
>Celeste still is a rapist this whole time
>Mirage being the most miquetoast boring shit that they refuse to balance.
>Everything surronding Shiv as a character and balance
>They brought spirit 4 mcG back last patch, only to instantly course correct and remove it this patch.

They don't know what they are doing man lol.
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>>561094876
Runts dogshit and I can't wait for soloQ to fuck over all these NA ""pros"" also the Russoids will tear their asshole open as soon as internation competition happens let alone the Gooks if they play it too.
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>>561096351
>Russians
Ngl the russian players are DOGSHIT at this game and not only that but the way they play is so much more boring too.
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>>561096429
still better than NAkeks
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>>561094876
you'll come to find that many deadlock "pros" are just unemployed losers that are just beating everyone else to dead with pure mass of hours played rather than actual mechanical skill.
Adding onto this, some of them are so far up their own ass that it's impossible to meet them anywhere reasonable when it comes to talking about balance. They're deranged.
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>>561096461
>still better than NAkeks
They're really not.
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tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny
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>>561095337
>bro just counter spell the cart web door combo coming from an invis doorman
>just use items while you're stunned bro...
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>>561096461
you just know this is coming from some draft dodging fag
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>>561073548
I dont necessarily mind nerfing his lifesteal i just hate how they did it. Its unintuitive. It would be like if they nerfed venator by changing his weapon damage scaling from item investment instead of his bullet damage, or if they nerfed someone like paige by making her get reduced "ability range" from items instead of nerfing the items.

They could make diminishing returns scale differently with lifesteal as a whole. But that also lacks consistency.

Id just make it so his aura itself applied reduced lifesteal or even healing. I dont think getting mystic reverb on his 1 was really the issue, just getting stat checked by aura.

This change makes interesting items like spiritual overflow and MysRev no where near as good. And going leech instead of infuser was a way to play gun.

Victor is built around lifesteal. Ive played around with mystic regen after building 1ap into ulty. Its a kind of neat style but kind of braindead. Poke until ult it up then yolo then poke again...

Without good lifesteal its hard to engage. I like the power shift from aura into his 1 and 3 but reducing his lifesteal also hurts those playstyles.
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>Frankenstein
>2 vampires
>Werewolf
Fucking hotel transylvania ass cast, also
Mavis>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mina
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>>561097708
mummy character next, FAGBOI.
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>>561097708
They need to add a fishman, and a hopping zombie now
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>>561097787
Trapper should be reworked into one, the kit fits
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They overbuffed Silver. She's a menace again.
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>>561098054
They should make trapper a balding obese white man who is voiced by a elmer fudd impersonator
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>>561096505
>just beating everyone else to dead with pure mass of hours played rather than actual mechanical skill.
This is a bit contradictory no? I literally could not care less about the deadlock ***pros*** but wouldn't getting all those hours at least add up to something in the end?
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>>561096851
yeah sounds like gimmick shit to me
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>>561098961
There's a genuine difference between playing a game and actually having talent, and then just bruteforcing 18 hours a day on steam every single day to learn every single tiny interaction and tech in the game.
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>>561097708
put some respect on universal's name bitch
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Goober baby raging about doorman right now.
Good.. Good... Rage about it you meta abusing faggot.
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Mina plays really good now. That umbrella buff makes it so much easier to railgun people and now she can be present in the team fight for so much longer because people just don't look up.

She is really fun to play now. It also helps that a lot of heroes got curb stomped with the nerfs
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>>561096112
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This game fucking hates me.

See the first Celeste win? That's when i hit Arcanist I.

LITERALLY after that i got nothing but turbo fucking retards going 0/11 against enemy lane and feeding so hard or not being able to fishing and doing jungle instead of pushing or base. Fucking hell fix your retarded nigger subhuman matchmaking Yoshi you fucking faggot.
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>>561094237
Yes
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im like 1-8 today (brawl)
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Rapelock
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>>561092436
>>561092695

Pretty much. She still falls off hard on the late game
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>>561097708
this is a darkstalkers cast



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