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Lash the Stevedore Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-226950

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>561072902
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Sex
With
Abrams
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Sex with Venator
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>>561096295
but he's not a pig
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>>561096282
>groups:
>pakistani PC gamers
i wonder how someone from pakistan got into your game, anon. i know what you are.
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>>561096278
i want that silk
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>>561096332
one time I was playing mo and one of my teammates refused to stop calling me pig
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you motherfuckers always complain about updates, I hope you fucks get your own version of this update
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>>561096536
QRD on this update?
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>>561096642
Silver hopping onto our bed after a long day of drinking
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>>561096365
I am from America but keep projecting. Nigger
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No es una granada pero es mejor que nada
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>>561096282
>>561096365
Uh oh, a Jeet is having a melty over a random Paki
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>>561096536
Honestly it was nowhere near as bad as this patches walker and midboss changes.
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>>561096536
>I hope you get even more retarded updates
I've already uninstalled thoughbeit
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>>561096792
You've said this 10 times already thoughever
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>victor 16/4/15
>no one in the enemy team bought curse
>kept ulting and ganking people with him as ivy
this is why they gave him the 30% healing nerf no one buys shit
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The Wight man marches on.
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>get Victor in the team
>lose
simple as
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>>561096725
you're still brown NIGGER
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>>561090614
PROXY PAIGE??
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>>561096979
>>561096754
This is (you)
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Deadlock before Deadlock
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>>561096536
No patch in this game has been anywhere near 20% as cancerous as Dota's worst patches thoughbeit
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>>561097113
no that's your deadlock lobby apparently
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>>561097148
(you)r deadlock lobby saar, please redeem.
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I dont necessarily mind nerfing Victors lifesteal i just hate how they did it. Its unintuitive. It would be like if they nerfed venator by changing his weapon damage scaling from item investment instead of his bullet damage, or if they nerfed someone like paige by making her get reduced "ability range" from items instead of nerfing the items.

They could make diminishing returns scale differently with lifesteal as a whole. But that also lacks consistency.

Id just make it so his aura itself applied reduced lifesteal or even healing. I dont think getting mystic reverb on his 1 was really the issue, just getting stat checked by aura.

This change makes interesting items like spiritual overflow and MysRev no where near as good. And going leech instead of infuser was a way to play gun.

Victor is built around lifesteal. Ive played around with mystic regen after building 1ap into ulty. Its a kind of neat style but kind of braindead. Poke until ult it up then yolo then poke again...

Without good lifesteal its hard to engage. I like the power shift from aura into his 1 and 3 but reducing his lifesteal also hurts those playstyles.
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>>561097280
you're the one who doxxed yourself retard
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the last patch was literally fine what the fuck did they mean by this new patch
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>>561097280
canadians looking rough
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>>561097350
Keep projecting brownoid I am white with blue eyes.
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>>561097372
let me guess, ginnis main?
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aijeet spam
lovely
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>>561097453
>I am white with blue eyes
based cuckold
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>gets called a jeet
>starts posting ai
pottery
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>>561096696
MoK gaped (oozing)
Wraith pressed (gently)
Victor prolapsed (viciously)
Celeste molested (softly)
Mirage jelqed (bigly)
Graves licked (deliciously)
Shiv rimmed (cleanly)
Abrams clapping (violently)
Silver licking (loudly)
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>bro just buy a 6400 soul item that not only gives you no stats but also makes you do 10% less damage
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>let me bring out my AI-generated indian videos
>I'm not paki btw
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>>561096282
>haze player
>mentally illl subhuman
MANYYY such cases
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>>561097653
i like buying Cursed Relic
people panic so hard when their keyboard shuts down
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>>561097653
seekerGOD
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hard carries playable before patch: haze, seven, victor, wraith, mcginnis
hard carries playable after patch: haze, seven
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>>561098149
wraith and miku got literal love taps. kys downplayfag
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>>561097653
im a paige sissy, the less damage I do the hornier I get
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>>561098242
No hours?
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>>561097653
>completely removes every single shield in the game or buff they've applied
>stops them from doing literally anything for 3 seconds outside of mewvment, no items, gun, or abilities
>BUH MUH -10% DAMAGE
hoooooly pisslow
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HOW ARE THEY INCAPABLE OF DELIVERING A SINGULAR HALF DECENT FUCKING PATCH
IT'S BEEN 2 YEARS OF NONSTOP DIARRHEA
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>>561097653
I love playing "support" just to buy these items
>cursed relic
>into focus lens and disarm
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>>561098273
lil pup definitely has less than 100 hours
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>>561097896
That shit lasts for like a second longer than grey talon's skill AND lowers your damage AND is expensive as shit
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>>561098234
so? no reason to play them if you can just play unnerfed shit like haze
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>>561098270
https://files.catbox.moe/snossy.jpg
This is you?
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>>561098273
I'm too embarrassed to show how many hours I've wasted on this slop
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>>561098365
there both still better than haze though. get out of seeker and you might know this
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>>561098296
>I MISS THE DAYS OF GUN KELVIN, VISCOUS, AND BEBOP TAKE ME BACK I CAN'T DEAL WITH 1234 AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE LET ME M1 YOSHIIIIIIIIII AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!
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I should be legally allowed to eviscerate someone online
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>>561098480
gun is too weak and thats a fact, needs buffs
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>>561098296
What's wrong with this patch, anon?
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>>561098365
Haze doesn't get played much in higher ranks because of how much harder it is to get value compared to the other m1 carries
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>>561098270
god i fucking love Paige players
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>load into a match
>too distracted by discord to pay full attention to the game
>die a bunch
>my lane ends up fed as fuck
>team attempts to come back but fails
>it is a loss
>my score is 0/18/3
>check my team
>they all had win streaks
how did MM knew that I was too busy ERPing to play the game?
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>>561098296
The game never has and never will be balanced, just forced meta shifts from braindead balance updates based on whatever gets complained about the most by midwit redditors.
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>>561098383
russians are even more messed up than me
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>>561098549
Ah yes, the good ol' days where you'd get stuck in a solo lane against a Dynamo who would remove 80% of your health in 4 shots just because you got lightly tapped by his kinetic pulse and he bought headshoot booster first item, so now you're stuck turtling next to the heal creep waiting for that beam to heal you.
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how are you supposed to actually play paradox? be a swap bot?
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>>561098786
i've been bombmaxxing
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>>561098554
>vindicta and mina flash everyone since they're flying all the time
>ivy and vyper are topless
>silver gets naked after ult
there's so many sluts in this game
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>>561098564
Haze has a 45% pick rate and 52% winrate in eternus, you fucking retard.

Valvedrones will say anything to defend this game and it's dogshit updates.
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>>561098839
but its so easy to get out of
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>>561098786
bomb echo shard and mystic slow then swap them into your rape cave
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>>561098786
>echo shard bomb + swap
>gun (she still has one of the best guns in the game, ignore kinetic pulse xXTrIcKsHoTsXx unless they're far away
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>>561098383
YOSHI ADD THIS NOW
ALSO ADD OFFICIAL BUTTPLUG SUPPORT TOO LIKE ULTRAKILL DID
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>>561098986
that's why i grab items to make it grow bigger, make enemies slower, and suck them back in with vortex web when they think they're free
also i like to rush Echo Shard so i can toss another bomb in their retreat path
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>>561096642
>AWOOOOO-AACCKKKK
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>>561098786
CHARGIN' TIME
PULSE GRENEDE'S OUT
>vortex web
TIME WALL
>shoot
SWAPPING NOW
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>>561099245
>>561099157
>>561099008
thanks anons wil ltry :)
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>>561097325
Just main Seven, Haze and Abrams those three will never get nerfed
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>>561098965
>game is dogshit!!!
nigger then why are you in the game i hate general?? how is that productive?
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>Silver buffed
>patch bitching cut in half from original patch
I'm styarting to nyotice...
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>>561098149
*buys metal skin*
Nice hard carry.
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>>561098907
>silver gets naked after ult
You know that begs the question, how do her clothes get fixed when she transforms back
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>>561099440
the supernatural elements can cause supernatural things to happen, y'know
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>>561099398
Also Shiv
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>>561098554
its too bad vindicta doesnt get much art anymore
atleast compared to the quirky chunguses released in the last two batches
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so when's the next mirage rework
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>>561099440
Magic bitch
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>>561099503
shiv is fucking useless now after the 3/6 patch
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Mina respects trans people's pronouns, can (you)r main say the same?
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>>561099613
>shiv is fucking useless
No one plays the game it seems.
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(You) and your pointless sobbing here will never reach devs. They listen to actual players.
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>Hard winning game
>Enemy dynamo rage quits after dying for like the fourth time
>Somehow rejoins and forces a safe to leave while he's connected, game is somehow suddenly not scored for everyone
>They were 0/4/0 in lane 6 minutes in


???
What the actual fuck?
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qrd on why metro hates this patch?
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>>561099783
tbf they shouldnt listen to me im just screaming into the void
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>>561099732
Celeste is a chud, but they removed the line because they're libcucks.
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for all the discussion silver gets no one really plays her
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>>561099613
Lmao
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>>561099732
whatever gets her the bag
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>abrams can phantom strike while ulting
What exactly goes through Yoshi's head when he makes these changes?
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>>561099732
doesn't even make sense since pocket is a 'they' because he's hiding after an assassination attempt and mina knows he's arin
also a lot of characters seem to know pocket despite the fact he went into hiding for some reason
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>>561099831
That's because I can't aim, so I have to stick with Ivy instead
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>>561099173
ULTRAKILL HAS WHAT
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>>561099806
He hates the patch because literally everyone is clowning on him because all he does is jungle, he's incredibly easy to tilt in Eternus, and doesn't actually know shit about the game. This is the same retard that had lightning scroll in his Official Always Win As Silver build when she dropped
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Is deadlock saved now or are locked in to being dead
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i want to slobber all over haze's cunt so bad its insane
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>>561099806
He's bad and he's losing.
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>>561099991
My mains weren't touched and ability range is being kept in check so it's saved
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>>561099783
I made a proper visual clarity post with videos and feedback and it didn't even get a thumbsup...
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>>561099954
>ULTRAKILL HAS WHAT
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>game feels awful and is frustrating
>take a 2-3 day break to play singleplayer games
>come back
>game is fun again
i discovered the secret
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LMAOing @ all the morons who climbed on Calico Wraith and brainless mcginnis ult build sorry time to learn an actual character!
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>>561099945
noo haha don't blow your brains with a shotgun silver you're so hot
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>>561098515
let him cook
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>>561100123
Don't forget that they nerfed all the worst niggerfaggot characters so the game is actually playable again
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i will play gun rem and steal all your farm
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>>561100161
Her finger's not even near the trigger, she'll be fine. Even her drunk ass couldn't fumble it that badly, surely
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>>561100123
who knew that not taking games so seriously, treating them like a past time, and taking a break from things you were getting burnt out on was healthy for you?
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>>561100235
yeah i only played 2 matches but this patch is 3x better than the old one
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>>561100235
they nerfed all of MY niggerfaggot characters, so that actually makes the game unplayable for me :(
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H-Hollidaybros... KOFF... HACK HACK uugghhh OOF... HACK... w-we're so skilled at the game, chuds don't understand us... VGH KOFF KOFF KOFF!!!!! SHE'S A GOOD CHARACTER EVEN AFTER ALL THE ITEM RANGE NERFS KOFF KOFF KOFF EEUEUUUGHGHHH!!!
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>victorfags on reddit are crashing the fuck out
kek
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>>561100235
starting to think the people seething were actually calico/wraith/victor aboosers
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Screencap this post, Aura of Suffering is going to be completely replaced by the end of the year after the devs throw in the towel.
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>>561096642
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>>561099516
she looks like a kid here
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holy faggot alert
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>>561100543
Probably groups that were joined back when this site wasn't filled with shill bots, and turd worlders.
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is bebop good or bad in the new patch?
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why is there STILL no counterplay to bebop sticky bomb why is it just an auto aim free damage on you
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>>561100543
xher profile alone screams that already
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>>561099806
I wonder.
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>>561100703
Counterspell + Reactive barrier make Bebop useless.
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>>561100703
Counterspell is literally why Bebop is considered bottom tier right now. People don't know that Gun Bebop is absolutely retarded because they need to build MUH STACKS
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>>561100769
what is this ugly ass site
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>>561100543
>The tard having a melty forgot to crop himself out of the screenshot and instantly deleted it
>He's a trannyfaggot
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>>561100881
the bomb stacks are fun, gun bebop stopped being as fun as it used to as we got more characters anyways
like would you even deliberately play gun bebop over venator if you were just hopping on out of boredom?
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>>561100769
but apollo was buffed
>>561100956
lol
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>>561098296
This patch is good you're on crack
>>561098383
hot
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>>561099984
how tf did this nigger get to eternus???
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>>561100808
>>561100881
lane phase i mean its so stupid man
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>>561100956
lmaooo he really forgot to crop himself out, i thought it was a clever bait but that might have been too much thinking for someone who throws a toddler tantrum when others take his favorite toy
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>>561100965
>like would you even deliberately play gun bebop over venator if you were just hopping on out of boredom?
i like hooking people

i hope they redesign bebop so he's just a pudge clone honestly
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>>561101039
said the celeste main
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>>561101087
the hook is fun, i'm just saying the laserbeam gun itself has interesting characteristics but isn't very fun to actually fire like a retard at things
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>>561100956
>immediately privates profile
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why is there melties about nerfing a 60% wr character and buffing a 46% wr character again
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>>561101048
Reactive barrier is 1600...
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>800 games
>emissary
LMAO
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>>561101162
lol?
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I'LL SLOW 'EM DOWN
>*bolas you*
I'LL GET 'EM
>*slam fires you*
COME AWN
>*boot kicks you backward*
OH GOD, NOT AGAIN
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>*turns into a big scary werewolf and rips your out positioned ass apart*

Your response, /dlg/? Without calling for nerfs, if you think you can manage that.
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>>561100956
wait this is actually a different schizo from the graves one KEK
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>>561097120
I do wonder how much of the setting for underlords got rolled over into Neon prime then into deadlock.
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>>561100965
If you hit your combo, you get +60% weapon damage, instant spin-up, 2x weapon range, AND you get to run them down at mach speed without having to max out anything outside sticky bombs. It always surprises the fuck out of people since the vast majority of Bebop players fuck off or lightly tickle them, not get bopped straight vertical as their balls get shorn off
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>>561100956
>This profile is private.
el oh el
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>>561101224
yoshi kill this fucker, will ya?
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>>561096112
Pro players complaining that doorman takes no skill.
Their chatters talking about how door cart combo needs removed.

The seething never ends doorbros.
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>>561101215
>>800 games
>>emissary
Good lord above
Why is it that the loudest complainers are always SO FUCKING SHIT
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>>561101307
It's funny because decent players will generally have options to deal with him, but shitters will seethe impotently as they constantly refund his ult and get traumatized because they refused to buy counterspell and/or stamina mastery.
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>>561101248
I miss underlords, it was so much better than tft and I dont play either of their base games
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Mina plays really good now. That umbrella buff makes it so much easier to railgun people and now she can be present in the team fight for so much longer because people just don't look up.

She is really fun to play now. It also helps that a lot of heroes got curb stomped with the nerfs
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>>561101224
Enjoy -50% gun damage -1 stamina and 20% slow
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>>561101420
Goober is having a meltdown on his stream right now because a DOORGOD fucked him in his bussy last match, and now his mods are range-banning chatters telling him that doorman takes skill to play.
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>yamato spirit snatch line interaction nerfed by a "fix"
>no buffs to compensate for this
Really hope they are holding on to the Yamato buffs for the eventual remodel patch.
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This patch is good the only "?????????????????" moment is Celeste buffs.
Any patch that makes Goober shit himself is a good patch.
>>561101307
>Goober constantly bitching about doorman.
>"baka doorman is a gimmick character that takes no skill fucking annoying to play against"
YOU'RE A VISCOUS MAIN AND YOUR USERNAME IS SEETHING OVER PUDDLE PUNCH GETTING NERFED
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This game fucking hates me.

See the first Celeste win? That's when i hit Ritualist I.

LITERALLY after that i got nothing but turbo fucking retards going 0/11 against enemy lane and feeding hard or not being able to finish and doing jungle instead of pushing or base. Fucking hell fix your retarded nigger subhuman matchmaking Yoshi you fucking faggot.
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They should just add Julius Ceasar
Just say he resurrected himself or something and is now running around NY armed with a tommy gun and pilum javelins
The bantz with Venator would be really funny
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>>561101426
ult felt really good in the one game that I played
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>>561101426
Her ult actually deals damage now instead of tickling me randomly.
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how do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>561101723
, "nigger"
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>Nerf all of Mirage's cooldowns, delete his weapon damage, then give his spirit damage a small buff
>Hero drops to 38% winrate because he dies to Dispel Magic, Spellbreaker, and just not letting him shoot you for 10 straight seconds
>Nerf his spirit damage
What the actual fuck are they thinking?
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>>561101723
>I don't know, Lash, why ARE you speaking?
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>>561101636
>>561101682
I was wondering about that. I played 3 games so far and people seem to respect my ult more, also feels like it procs love bits much quicker
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Who is the Zywoo of Deadlock?
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>at least 800 games
>emissary fucking 2
><50% winrate
>barely above 50% even on his main he goes to profiles and rages about not getting
>every other day he comes to /dlg/ to cry and cope and seethe and blame other people
Why can't we get fucking better posters than this faggot
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>>561101819
he can support by reducing damage and spamming TORNADO so idk I guess I've won since the changes
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>>561098480
gun kelvin was the most fun this game ever was
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>>561101850
because the bats actually hit now
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>>561101907
>Support that needs 12800 souls and two abilities with max level to do anything
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>calico slap on the wrist
>mcnigger ult nerfed in exchange for buffing everything else
>whatever they are doing with mirage
>going back on the Shiv stamina change for ???
>mina buffs
>celeste buffs
>infernus buffs for ???
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>>561101905
I'm not much better than this person. 200 hours and still Ritualist
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>>561101819
he's not celeste, womp womp
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i will never stop doing vortex cart into walker/spawn as long as people keep getting mad at it
it's so fun
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>>561101961
still have ptsd from this nigger, only time i actively stopped queuing because the balance was so bad
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>>561101623
That was my yesterday's lobby after 6 losses in a row as a arcanist 4
Try not to fucking tilt
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>>561101905
>tfw 100 hours and just hit em 1
but also i know to keep my mouth shut and not cry like a bitch when i dont get my char
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Celeste was weak and low impact before this patch
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>>561102082
>I will use same strat over and over again
does it ever get boring as fuck when no one actually bothers to get mad about it? what will you have when your one trick pony show bores even you after 10,000 times of doing it over and over?
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>TODAY THERE WILL BE A RAPING
What the fuck did Haze mean by this?
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>>561102057
As long as you don't waste everyone's time with endless rageposting and coping, you're MUCH better than this faggot
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>>561102175
it's effective when it goes well, and its risky enough to feel satisfying to pull off. and seeing people get mad in the chat is funny. why wouldn't i keep doing it?
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>>561101614
>>561101507
>>561101307
>go into goober stream
>he's whining "WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO IM LIKE COMPLETELY USELESS"
>It's 8 minutes into the game
>Silver comes helps him for a kill in wolf form
>Still takes her like it's entire duration to get the kill even with his help
>"YEAH SILVER JUST GETS TO ONESHOT HIM WHAT A BALANCED HERO"
Holy KWAB. Why did nobody tell me hatewatching retards was so funny.
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Should I get this to play deadlock if my aim gets jumpy during tough fights?
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>>561101905
He's a jeet confirmed btw but I'm not doxxing the faggot
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Forever Arcanist 2 like the shitter I am
I only pick random though so I dunno if that affects rank/matchmaking
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>>561102353
you didn't really answer the question but uh yeah alright man
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>>561102390
>him saying all this when he abuses the permastun with viscous ult
kill all streamers
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>>561101961
maybe if you're retarded and failed to be ensouled, sure
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>>561102424
Just play Rivals
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>>561102447
>"what will you do when you stop having fun with the thing you're doing?!?!?! "
uh, do something else? im not even sure what kind of question that is
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The moment I saw the Light Eater nerfs to start with, I knew they would eventually be reverted
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>>561101307
>bells aren't allowed to do dmg
>cart with doors into walkers/spawn is busted and shouldn't exist
>gunman
You know I'm starting to think no one actually wants doorman to be good
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>>561102424
u aint zergy kid
just play with a normal fucking mouse
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>>561102424
bro thinks hes zergy
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>>561102390
>goonigger
yeah i've seen enough
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>>561102612
yeah
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>>561101426
yeah i can only hope it wasn't too much and the pros start abusing her so much that she gets gutted
amazing patch for mina
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Why is everyone so mad about Abrams having the tome
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>>561102613
>kid
I'm 40, and I used a trackball back in the 1990s and 2000s.
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>>561102612
>gunman
this legitimately made me burst out laughing thank you anon
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>>561102725
everyone has seen what that dick can do
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>>561101723
I don't know I don't speak in all chat outside of gg
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>>561102424
getting a trackball mouse doesn't give you hypercompetitive autism to win like zerggy bro
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>>561102725
LET'S SEE WHAT THIS BOOK CAN DO
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>>561102835
does it give you the regular kind like zerggy tho
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>>561102424
So this is a new ritual post.
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>play street brawl
>enemy venator gets glass cannon round 1
>enemy paige gets divine barrier round 1
wow
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>>561102725
>book lets you fly and also life siphon
imagine what you could do with the tome
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>>561102592
>I will overgeneralize the question so I can't answer it directly!
...eh?
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>>561102725
I assume it's some lotr one true ring shit and the book calla for them
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why does the server just suck sometimes i swear and its not me everyone complains its usually at the end when everyone's just having a group moshpit but sometimes happens mid game too
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>>561103034
sounds like you got sent to spawn one too many times buddy, im not sure what you're even talking about
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>>561100543
kill all animetroons
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>>561103127
oooh ok so you lack reading comprehension, got it
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Reminder that initiateGODS own /dlg/
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>>561101045
He got boosted to eternuns on the EU, he can't get past phantom on NA.
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>>561096112
why is the default valve build supposed to be bad?
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>>561103223
Not updated in eons.
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Im glad doorcuck keeps getting nerfed so I know when one shits on me its not a metaslave faggot, its someone that actually plays the character
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just duo queue with a kelvin if you are victor
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to those anons that said 'buy counterspell against bebop' thank you after lane phase he just completely fed and got absolutely ruined
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>shoot at Abrams a couple times in lane
WHY WON'T ABRAMS DIE!
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>>561103214
initiateGAWDS with eternus knowledge i fucking kneel
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dogshit balance
dogshit matchmaking
dogshit game

simple as
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>>561103001
Abrams can fly and sucks the life out of people WITH the tome as a medium. its all his own will power. the book contains the trillion secrets and history of sex and EVERYONE wants it
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>>561103265
got it
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>>561103319
JUST DIE ALREADY
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>>561103343
But enough about slopvel slopvals
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>>561103324
does this mean deathy just an initiate in one big eternus trenchcoat?
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REM
YOU ARE ADORKABLE
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>>561103343
all true except the last game's fun when victor doesnt exist
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>>561103343
>it's my fault that i'm stuck in emissary i'm an eternus player on the inside TRVST THE PLAN YOSHI PUT ME HERE!!
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>>561103343
add retarded/clueless dev team as well
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>>561103319
Abrams keeps coming!
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>>561103319
SOMEONE HELP ME KILL ABRAMS!
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Yo this guy is pretty good.

Landing good ice shelters isn't actually very hard, I just try to ping it when I want to get a pick, and people tend to hug me. Or even if they're not doin that can just force it.
Feel like an actually useful support hero not just a fuckin active item bot.
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>Haze has 71% wr in all ranks all builds
lol
how are these devs so retarded
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>>561096278
Calm down Mina!
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>>561100538
sweet
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>>561103505
just buy metal skin
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>>561103505
where are you seeing this?
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>>561103403
Unironically all of the big streamers are, they got boosted up there by 6 stacks of people from their discords
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>deadlock in the year 2026
>still getting mogged by every other hero shooter and MOBA
Grim
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>>561102103
>Arcanist
literal baby mode
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MINA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
NEW YORK IS YOUR BREEDING GROUND
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>>561103492
His beam is demonic. Very good character with a bit of coordination.
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>how people look at you when you tell them to not just buy L > R and actually buy items to counter heroes
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>>561103616
mmmmmmm that's grim... damn.
so eternus rank is actually ALL made up of unemployed streamers? damn
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>Seven on my team says nigger
>The leftard on my team begins to seethe
>Leftard types in all chat that our Seven said the "nword"
>Enemy team says he's based
>Leftard begins to seethe even more
All free entertainment for me. I love this game.
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>>561103770
I DON'T WANT TO LE THINK
I WANT TO DO MY BIG DAMAGE ITEMS NYOW NYOW NYOW!!!
>buys boundless spirit, mystic reverb and spirit burn first 3 items
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>>561103601
I'm in archon and I still only see metal skin in like 1 in 5 of my games as haze
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why did i think i needed to actually hit people's legs with entangling bola for it to hit...
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You think they'll reset all of our MMR when the game officially releases?
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>>561103905
anon, i...
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>>561103905
actual based retard, i love it
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>>561103905
You're special.
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>>561103398
Better game than Deadlock according to its own devs.
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>>561104035
(YOU DO)
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>>561103979
No and if they do it'll be fake, they're not shuffling matchmaking so you have to play against Eternus 6 10k hours players for a bit until they re-sort MMR to be basically the same.
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Let's see what this ass can do
BRRAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP
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>>561103905
You're applying M1 damage logic to an ability. Weapons need to be precise. Abilities just need to be near the enemy.
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>>561098554
those panties are too modern for her
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>>561102680
Goober is THE Goonigger
>One tricks a support character with tons of unfun bullshit packed in
>Constantly going "wow lmao balanced" and whining about patch notes about other ritualists as he throws a goo ball that does more than a quarter of farmed infernus's HP pool on one bounce (it's on a 7 second cooldown).
>Whining about how punch is useless as he's using it for insane movement tech
>Unironically a "Just buy rebuttal" nigger.
>Whines about doorman kidnapping
>"SILVER IS OP TOP 3 CHAR RN"
I don't care if they're eternus 6 and nightshift NA champs rn I'm so glad devs don't fucking listen to these retards.
>But they do-
No they don't kek. No pro would ask for Celeste buffs.
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i wish i was good with low health heroes
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gay sex with apollo!
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>>561103398
This update is so bad I'm reinstalling Marvel sloppa right now
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>>561100538
out of 10
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>>561103770
>Click on random top daily build
>Click autoqueue and autobuy, yes I will complain about how I don't know what any of the items are
>Buildmaker put every counter as an optional item, WHICH MEANS I'M NOT BUYING THAT SHIT LOL
>I will keep doing the same shit that got me killed over and over, I will keep starting duels with fed enemy carries, I will go into enemy jungle by myself, I will keep brooling
Psshhh.... just a day in the life of a designated elo assassin, nothin personnel Deadlocker...
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>>561104187
not even the correct role color
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>>561102390
i just watched a bit right now, why is this guy so mad. if i got so upset after playing a game i'd just quit and do something else
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>>561104198
goober's personality is fucking awful
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>>561103979
They could probably sort everyone between beginner, average and tryhard by shoving people in initiate, ritualist and archon on release.
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>>561104187
>Deadlock devs are playing a game that has constant fanservice and no LGBT
>Meanwhile Deadlock has a they/them character and multiple ugly foids with no sex appeal
LOL!
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>graves can get refresher/echo shard/lightning scroll and spawn infinite minions from her tombstone and wall that all stun if they hit you
very fun game
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>>561104303
?
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>>561104284
your social credit has been refunded!
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>>561103319
>enemy mo shooting troopers
>a single pellet hits me in the shoulder and deals 3 damage to me
>my regen heals it up in literally less than one second
>WHY WON'T ABRAMS DIE!!!!????!!!!
I love these voicelines. It's extra funny shooting shiv with a shotgun from guardian to bridge, dealing 1 damage and you start freaking the fuck out
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1-9
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>>561104471
hooooly pisslow
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Eugenicist scientist hero when?
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>>561104542
moira my beloved
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>>561104615
she is mine back off
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>>561097653
bitch im a drifter with +60 stacks 10% less damage is still enough to kill someone who can't do anything for 3s
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>>561104471
>all deleted by ricochet or one of ivy's cancer bombs
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>>561104542
7 minutes, 7 minutes is all it will take for me to throw the game
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>>561104537
>pisslow
ok what's the counter to her doing wall -> echo -> wall mid fight and instantly spawning 4 minions right next to you that explode immediately and all individually proc lighting scroll
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>>561104198
You can still dribble btw.
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>>561104471
wow free souls
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>>561102709
She has one of the lowest WRs in non optimal setting. Surely they can't nerf her much if at all anymore, not when so many bullshit heroes are in the game right now
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>>561104657
>fellow moiralover
based tbqh
want to raw her so bad
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>>561104495
chink devs > fluro haired Seatlle tranny devs
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>>561104764
Jump up somewhere.
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>you never wanna buy gun upgrades for viscous
how did goober get into any high rank in this game lmfao
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>>561100543
Was going to say based until I saw the california group
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>>561104764
hope you arent playing an honest m1 character with no lanewide aoe nuke
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>>561104863
hoooh yesu gaijn pray rivars we no track info promise
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>>561101507
>>561102390
>>561104198
Lmao what a faggot, hope Yoshi nerfs his main, that would be some karmic justice
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>>561104764
walk away
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>>561104871
abusing heavy melee cancel originally
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>>561104821
>completely clear my jungle on yellow lane as victor
>low HP graves comes in with a tombstone
>instantly kill her and then just farm all the zombies for low effort souls as I lean back and relax
It's way more efficient to just kill it and be done with it and go get boxes but it's just funny.
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>Highest winrate in every single rank
>Has escaped every single nerf
Seven is the GOD of Deadlock
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took em out
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>>561104871
Let me see ur viscous build, been wanting to try him out but I need a build I can trust
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>>561105039
>infernus after you slaughter the defenseless abrams in your hideout that was just minding his own business
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why does every single dynamo build focus on stomp instead of ult? is he not an enigma clone?
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>>561104982
LEMME GET A HALF POUND OF LIFESTEALGOOL
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this game is full of obnoxious faggots that are terrible at the game, terrible at communicating, terrible awareness, terrible mechanically, terrible strategically. eternus 4 games are some of the worst shit I've ever witnessed in a team game and I have easily 20k+ hours in team based games of all sorts
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>>561104471
>Graves can get three t4 items, 19,200 souls, to be somewhat threatening
Holy f*ck
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>>561105290
alpha
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>>561104471
Literally just walk away from the zombies LMAO
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>>561105290
Can I see one of your deadlock games? Surely you can do better? No?
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>>561105039
we make a good team
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>>561105205
cause it has a 4 minute cooldown
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>>561105236
I don't understand why they want Victor to just be a burst character instead of the constant spirit DPS carry like Seven.
First they release him and he's fucking retarded, then they get him for a week and every patch since then has been the most half asses bandaid that has mostly just ended up super buffing him because bursting someone with 800 damage + 500 escalating exposure damage is better than doing like 20 constantly.
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>>561105205
because he actually rapes people early-mid with stomps and if you don't capitalise on it then you're never going to have that sort of effect later on. whereas your blackholes do their thing anyways.
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Mo and Krill is still strong as fuck surprisingly
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>>561105452
WE HAVE YOU NOW
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>>561105290
I'd communicate better if the contextual pings actually worked and no I won't speak because I'm highly autistic and break into cold sweating
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>>561104940
>gaijin
retard alert
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>>561105452
Retard Mo mains think "OMG HIS ULT HAS LESS DAMAGE IT'S OVER NOW" are retards that don't realize you're supposed to do his ult when you're with your team not by yourself
I just had a Mo who fucking tried playing like Drifter, guy would just go into enemy jungle to look for people to ult, fail at killing anybody, and get instantly killed when the enemy team came to help their teammate
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Retarded chinks have a better idea of balance than valve troons and i think thats really sad
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>>561105424
Because everyone needs to be a spirit nooker with big AOE and in Victor's case it's casting thunderbolt across the whole line and exploding you instantly.
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>>561105020
It's more that he's incredibly consistent. He has a high winrate in pisslow because of his ult killing shitters, but at high ranks he's a farming beast with a very well-rounded and safe kit that lets him stay at mid range
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>>561105452
well yeah they get 6k hp with 4.8k green now
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The fuck you're supposed to do with a niggery nigger retard team like this ffs. 8 losses in a fucking row and it's always fucking subhuman niggers like this we almost won with Viper but retarded niggers thought they could splitpush against entire enemy team instead of defending and waiting for us retarded fucking faggots why the fuck do i always need to be paired with such retarded failed abortion human waste holy fucking shit.
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>>561105679
We dont like ur kind here....
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The amount of times I'm the one to recover/pick up a dropped urn and turn it in when it's meleed off the original carrier in the midst of a fight is really high, I'm honestly surprised by how little people actually prioritize the urn itself even when they gather around to fight for it
Not that I mind, I'll take those extra souls any day
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>>561105627
>the whole line
I have you now, ruskie. Why do you guys say line anyway? Is the russian translation for lane just the word line and thus when you translate it back you get line?
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>>561099434
Actually the silverfags want more buffs, which is fucking funny
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>>561105290
no one wants to communicate minus VC people dont even listen to the pings like Need Help on Yellow! They're taking our walker theres 2 of them here WHY ARE YOU FARMING JUNGLE HELP ME
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>>561105679
take a breather. get some fresh air. do some excercise. take a break from the game, and think about all the things you could be doing that isn't playing something making you that unhappy, like reading a good book.
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>>561105569
ooooh sorry wang u all rook same!
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>>561101098
Gravesfag actually
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>>561105880
found the subhuman retarded faggot who cannot fucking play, kill yourself right fucking now, your mommy cries to sleep every night regretting she didn't abort you
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>>561105840
>silverfags want silver to be a mindless hypercarrying machine that can solo the entire enemy team
of course
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They should let you have unlimited active item slots
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>>561105812
because sometimes you can't afford getting silenced and disarmed midfight.
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>>561106002
woah, hostile. you okay, anon? did something happen? you know, being so angry isn't good for you. maybe you should take a break, for real? just saying.
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When are we getting Aghs
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>>561106045
i think that'd be a good change
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>>561105998
>patch = good because they slightly buffed graves
My sides: obliterated
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>>561105814
It was actually just a spelling mistake.
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Sinclair is like Rubick but bad
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>>561106186
Fuck. I've never gotten a clear answer for why they say line from them in game.
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>>561105812
I usually assume anyone who grabs the urn is just gonna get obliterated by the clusterfuck surrounding them
If you can sneak it out of there or if there's only one or two people contesting it then go for it but if everyone came to fight I'd rather just broool and try to prevent some teammate deaths instead of painting a target on my back
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>>561105679
>cheat death on fucking Celeste
>>>>>lightning + refresher ult-centric build
>no torment pulse
>no escalating exposure
>no spirit lifesteal
>not even a fucking mystic slow
>metal skin AND bullet resistance but no plated armor with a haze that has no armor piercing rounds
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Sinclair is like Rubick but funny.
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>>561106285
They still got 16 kills and second highest damage so I guess it worked
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i will RAPE vyper in front of lash, billy, and cinnamon
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>>561106285
Here comes retarded fucking nigger with a porn pic thinking items were the issue when every TF was won if not for those retarded faggots jungling or not doing shit. Haze was dying like a fly.
>>561106103
I said what i mean, fucking kill yourself. I don't need a retard explaining shit to me when matchmaking in this retarded tranny game is absolutely fucking fucked because you always are paired with rotten brain drooling retards going 0/99999999999999 in first fucking microsecond they touch their lane's floor.
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>>561104471
>infinite minions
literally 2×3(6) and 2×2(4) which is 10
>that all stun if they hit you
They literally crawl at the speed of a snail and a fucking DYAN*O STOMP can literally one shot all 10 of them
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>>561104052
>it WAS the mousecuck
kek, you're so easy to clock
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>>561106347
>exist in his lane
>half my hp is now gone
hilarious
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>>561097653
fuck it i buy this even on gun carries
>someone walks up to you
>curse them
>silence them
>silence them again
>seethe in the chat as they are melted with no chance at fighting back or escaping
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>>561105205
my build focuses on the ulti, I only throw in a side box with rapid recharge and tankbuster and healbane for when you want to apply healbane to half enemy team in teamfight
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It's time for a lady geist rework. I don't care how many different ways there are to counterplay, it's the most antifun bullshit in a game full of antifun bullshit
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HIT THE TOWER

STOP STANDING ON THE BRIDGE

LEARN TO FUCKING TAKE/PRESS THE ADVANTAGE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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did this kid learn the word nigger this week or what
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>>561106387
Except late-game refresher Celeste builds are essentially useless past the 35 minute mark, even against unorganized random teams like that one. There's a 1/9 Paige and 5/14 Shiv on the enemy team that are practically slot locked. Doing the most damage because you're bouncing the ball across two people who can't split up doesn't mean shit. For fuck's sake, Haze doesn't even have Unstoppable and there's not a single Silence Wave and Bebop is the only one who had the foresight to build Cursed Relic.
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>>561105452
It's partly because channeling skills in general are retarded in this game, they should obviously be stopped by things like silence but for some reason they don't.
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>>561106043
Why wouldn't they? That's what she was on release and what she always has been if you have even a modicum of skill, and they haven't been quiet about thinking she should be buffed above even that state. Perma pick/ban status is not enough for the average silver player, they cannot win with anything short of a character twice as powerful as the rest of the cast.
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>>561106178
Anon you don't understand, i can finally play her without being raped in early mid and late game, now i get raped early, molested mid while i fight back and late game i finally do a role reversal and do some of the raping. It's all i ever wanted, for her to be somwhat viable
>>
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>>561106862
Still not enough. He needs a lower winrate than Mirage
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>>561106794
>It's all i ever wanted, for her to be somwhat viable
She was viable when she released. The seethe and tears she caused in all chat was hilarious.
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>>561103505
>Being so deranged over Haze you just make shit up
Kek
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>>561106724
>they cannot win with anything short of a character twice as powerful as the rest of the cast.
Sad, my HERO shiv would NEVER bitch and moan, he'd just tank that shit
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>>561106492
It is literally your fault, retard. You tried to be the hero and you failed. Your build fucking sucks shit and instead of reflecting as to why you died or failed to communicate, you deflect it on the rest of your team. You are in Emissary. There's a reason why you are there. Get better instead of seething like a nigger you think others are.
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>>561106989
shiv is the most technical and honest character in deadlock at the moment.
KNIFE OUT
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>>561106989
>can't hit the knives for shit
>new patches make him only about the knives
it's over
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Why didn't they touch Haze and Seven?
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>>561106862
He deserves it
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>>561104859
Same
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>>561106580
No, I'd rather not feed the enemy team retard. Stop pushing and farm lane.
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>>561107006
Lmao typical fucking trannytard doesn't even know the rank. End your shitty waste of fucking life. I was doing damage and killing everything, the team was full of fucking retards who couldn't do fucking shit and died to everything and refused to itemize and listen just like you right now you fucking retarded abortion.
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>>561107197
you don't see people complaining about them
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>>561106862
kek
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Restorative Locket Victor meta incoming
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>>561107060
It feels so fucking good, i love sucking people dry
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>>561105452
>the character that has never been bad and has never received any significant nerfs ever is still strong
wow....
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>>561107229
cuck mentality
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>>561107197
Unironically senirority buff.
It's okay that they're crazy strong they always were.
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>boring design
>boring skills
>boring lore
>boring lines
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Not a silverfag but why are "pros" obsessed with saying she's op even though she's clearly not
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>>561107539
Give him Wyoming.
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>>561107197
no meme because they're crutch characters that people spammed to get to a rank they don't belong
same as lash for 99% of the patches
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>throw back a shot of bourbon
>marlboro red on my lip
>polo green cologne on
>dressed to the 9s
>crank up interpol's turn on the bright lights to 11
>balisong tricks on one hand
>other hand to queue up a match
yuuuup, it's shiv time baby
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>>561107539
Him giving you a 20% debuff to ALL DAMAGE by hitting you with a single (one) scarab is pretty insane though
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>>561107640
Because in the right hands she completely takes over the game and does everything.
Balancing problematic heroes like her around winrate and pubs is retarded because then the ones that can use her just get to coast by for free and get away with murder.


It's literally the exact same deal as shiv but she has tits and a vagina so there's more simps.
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>>561107428
If not being 0-10-0 in lane is cuck mentality now then it's time for me to order a chastity cage.
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>>561107197
too honest
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>>561107249
You're the one who lost your game, so you should end yours first. Reflection isn't your strong suit, so chimp out all you'd like since it's not going to un-lose that game for you. I give you my permission to do so, so please, be my guest.
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Silver pubs?
More like Silver pubes.
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>>561107701
You can probably do some funny shit with healbane and mystic slow.
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>>561106285
>Lightning scroll
>No even a mystic slow
Anon...
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>all the seething going on ITT is from seekerfags
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>561107640
If you can aim and move well then she's broken, if you can't aim or move then she's garbage, the former wants her to be balanced and nerfed while the latter builds pic related and goes 0/9/1
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>on a win streak
>hop on street brawl
>get 5 abysmal dogshit matches in a row
>system puts me back in the winner bracket for the regular mode
I finally found a way to evade the forced 50%
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>>561107229
BRO IM 0/0/7 COME THE FUCK ONE PUSHHHHH
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>>561107539
>>boring design
>>boring lore
>>boring lines
Wrong
>boring skills
Fair
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Silver has the best ass in the game
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>>561107640
>Is your aim good? She's a bit busted
>Is your aim bad? lol go fuck yourself
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>>561108134
>>561107809
Viscous is the same way but has a 10% higher winrate than her in high elo.
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Is haze OP? What's so strong about her?
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>>561107917
Silver's massive bush
Imagine it
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>>561108413
the only character in the game where vladimir gogolnovich can load up his CS2 aimbot and win with
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I'm depressed that my rank is so low despite playing so much dota and lol
I have fun but how can I tell anyone I play deadlock if I'm so shit at it
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>>561108413
She's just an honest government worker
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>>561108413
>victor 54% winrate
hmm
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>>561108590
He can't do that with any other m1gga?
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>>561108413
Her ult procs on hit stuff like ricochet, silencer, inhibitor, etc and she's very good at spooking people with invisibility
Knife is also good for setting up kills
>inb4 BUT METAL SKINN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>561107809
>>561108134
>>561108305
Yep you just gotta have hands bro
>*first pick/bans her 7 games in a row despite not achieving anything*
You just gotta have hands
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>>561108691
haze is just the easiest to do with especially because she builds stacks on each hit that give her more damage
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So who got out of this patch the best?
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>>561108895
Holiday (unchanged)
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>>561108276
>best ass
>best hair
>best bush
>worst tits
I guess they can't all be whompers
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>>561108276
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>>561109015
>All of her range items nerfed
Her smile and barrels: destroyed
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>nerf overtuned characters but none of the nerfs do anything
>inexplicably buff already good characters into being even better
This balance patch is somehow even worse than the last one.
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Man every time i start having fun on Doorman again they fuck him over. Bells now do shit damage, all range items nerfed. Guess he's fated to be a true support character
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>>561108895
Toss-up between Mirage and Graves, with Abrams behind
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>>561106710
>Except late-game refresher Celeste builds are essentially useless past the 35 minute mark,

So why are people bothered Celeste got buffs?
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>>561109471
express shot, sharpshooter, ar, imag, gc, vampburst. you're welcome
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>no changes for Sinclair and Holliday for months
Why?
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>heard you're suppose to be able to claim souls before the enemy can deny it
>the enemy instantly deny the souls before I get a chance to do so
Huh?
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Why the fuck is the game putting me in servers halfway across the world?
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>stomp some shitter in lane
>they get pissed and start complaining about my champ
>trash talk them in-character
>seethe increases by 2000%
This game is great
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>>561109707
Don't know about that, i've tried forcing gun doorman many times after his headshot nerf and it always feels very mediocre.
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>>561108729
>80% pro wr
>Bro trust me she does nothing
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>player leaves after dying twice in lane during the first few minutes
>win the midgame pretty onesidedly despite this
>would have won if it were a 6v6
this is bullshit at least ban the leaver for 3 days or something. Or at least make the result not count as a fucking loss.
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>>561108276
Abrams has way more cake
don't believe me? press spacebar

also
>upskirt Paige
>literal pancake butt
i know supports don't need kills but someone feed this girl
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>>561109842
>get put in warsaw server
>literally everyone in the lobby starts complaining about 25-50% packetloss
Why can't the poles handlw their servers?
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>>561109756
Reworking their kits probably
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>shiv is in every single match
>nearly unkillable
>back to 3 stamina coupled with the buffs to his alt fire so it's impossible to catch up to him if he runs away
>knives do half your hp if you get hit twice
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>>561109901
>80% pro wr
>... for one week
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i like how you can afk in this game when you know its lost. they started banning for that shit in chink rivals and i got a 1 week ban even though my teammates are shit
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>>561109961
because they're poles dude. If the servers went down they'd probably try to turn them back on with a TV remote.
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>>561109885
maybe things are different in ascendent+ but in emissary im getting top damage with gunman every game without using any of his abilities a single time. 200 dmg per bullet from any range is hard to beat in current meta where everyone stacks over 5 spirit resist items and MAYBE 1 warp stone/metal skin
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>>561098515
Blame yoshi for thinking melee Apollo will ever be a thing.
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>Removed 70% lifesteal effectivness from Victor
>Aura of suffering now applies 35% healing reduction to self
>Tier 2 Aura of suffering no longer modifies max and min damage
>Tier 2 reduce self damage by 10% and enemy damage is increased by 10%
>Tier 3 now reduces healing penalty by 15% (to 80% effectivness) and increases range by 1.
Tier 3 pain battery now provides 35% debuff resist throughout duration instead of purging effects. Sp scaling changed to 1.4

Also:
>revert arcane surge back to 15% since you have to spend a stamina and its conditional.
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>>561101421
Duos in Underlords was some of the most fun I've had in a multiplayer game. My friend and I put tens of hours into it even long after Valve stopped updating it.
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holy shit they killed doorman. landing a bell is a lot harder and even if you do it's like no damage in lane
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How the fuck do I play Apollo
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>>561108276
Geist mogs her and also has big tits.
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>>561110832
run at enemy
press 1
press 3
aim toward enemy
press 3 again
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>>561108413
She's been strong as shit since last patch and retard yoshi nerfed ALL spirit heroes.
Which brings me to this, why the fuck does this retard always hits EVERYONE?
Spirit wasn't strong, it was a handful of spirit items and heroes, other heroes couldn't do shit.

He nerfed spirit in general yet celeste is still mecha hitler, what gives
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Why does tracklock say I'm ritualist while in game it says I'm oracle?
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>>561111445
they have their own calculation thats different from the actual game
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>>561111578
>we made our own pretend ranks
That's retarded lol
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>>561106862
victor niggas really acting like them healing JUST 5k damage instead of 8k makes him completely unusable
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>>561111724
whatever, ritualist
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>>561111445
They just average out the lobby ranks of your last 50 games, but also they fail to capture all of your games (so yes it's retarded and pointless).
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>>561108413
She is like Riki back when he was meta and just like Riki people tell you to buy X item (dust/gem or in this case Metal Skin) as a counter meanwhile she is getting fed a 20k soul lead on the other side of the map because it's just that kind of pub raping kit.
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is it a bad idea to main bebop? he so FUN
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>>561112009
Have you been convicted of any sex offences? Like against children?
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>>561112154
t. Lash
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>>561110625
it's so fucking strange that they buffed call bell earlier in the month only to reverse it again like give us a fucking middle ground Yoshi you fat nigger
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>>561111908
Just by a sentry please
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>>561111445
make sure you're uploading all your matches and refresh your stats
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>bounty hunter
>sheriff
>2 stamina
>random magician
>3 stamina
what?
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>>561112640
TWO random magicians
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>>561112640
>Transgender self-insert
>4 stamina low gravity
>Geriatric
>4 stamina
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>>561112671
one suspiciously black sounding magician
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graves summoner with focus on her 2 is really fun
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>The best movement character in the game
>Trannies attach themselves to them
Amusing.
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>silver buffs
>also shiv buffs
you were warned of this monkey's paw silverfags, i hope you're happy
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>>561112947
I was wondering how viable the Spirit build actually is now. Echo shard on wall seems lke its going to be really good
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>>561113021
Im happy with this
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I GOT SOMETHING FOR YA
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>Just yell tranny over and over again
Do you guys have any thoughts on the actual game?
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>>561113060
yeah its really funny and retarded, her damage is pretty good. only bullet item i took was toxic bullets
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Paige should've been heavier.
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>44% winrate character with 34 games is higher relative to my ranking
>56% winrate main with 862 games is lower relative to my ranking
what did valve mean by this
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>>561112396
only way I think it's salvageable is moving cart stun to tier 2 so that maxing bell after it is viable but then you're gutting your door power so even then I'm not sure
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>>561113021
I'm fine with YER DEAD as long as it's also TIME TO LET OUT THE BEAST
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>in lane around 4 minutes in
>mirage gets 4 stacks on me
>does 450 damage
are we fucking serious yoshi?
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>>561113183
She should have one stamina and not move like usain bolt that's for fucking sure
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>>561113415
i don't understand why yoshi wants high spirit burst in the game
it's annoying just sitting at half health then getting killed out of nowhere
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>>561113524
i had 42% spirit resist last game, kelvin hit me 1 grenade and it did over 900
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all ima say to the victor mains that havent dropped the character like a lot of frauds E shift is the new infuser for him
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>>561113136
Yeah I don't like playing with or against trannies in it.
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>>561113667
>E shift is the new infuser
mind = freakin blown!
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mo & krill is the thinking mans character.
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>>561113887
Mo is unironically the fairest hero in the game. Sorry movement troon, you're not jump-slide-dashing your way out of this one.
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Amazing how I haven't seen a SINGLE Victor neither in pubs nor brawl ever since the patch. Goes to show how little people actually care about the guy.
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>>561114242
everyone just went ghost crazy
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>>561114242
>metaslaves stop playing nerfed characters
no..
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>>561114242
I just played a game with Victor in Arcanist.
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>>561114242
im still playing him and taking turns with my duo
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>>561114242
I like Victor and I still play him
I'm bad at the game however
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>>561114369
first time?
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>>561113415
They nerfed marks this patch and for you to take that much damage thar early I'll assume you were just standing still or walking straight forward like a retard
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I sneed the updated winrates so i know what to complain about now
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Why are Rems like this
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5 most honest characters
1: mo
2: paige
3: graves
4: dynamo
5: victor
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>>561114242
I originally started playing Victor to climb out of the low ranks but now I actually like him. The nerfs actually pissed me off because several characters stronger than him got barely anything or, inexplicably, buffs.
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>>561114542
nuke pillow funni
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>>561114548
horrible list desu
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>>561114542
REM
YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT
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>>561114536
https://tracklock.gg/heroes-tier-list/24h/all/normal
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>>561114550
what really annoys me is that the 30% doesn't make much sense, its almost like they want to rework him or something. if you think about it, the buffs to his range might've been made with this patch in mind so maybe the nerfs mean something in the future
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>>561114536
You can search by the current patch on Statlocker, though the sample size is obviously small, Haze has the highest winrate right now at 56% and Wraith, Celeste and Doorman share the highest Eternus 4+ winrate at 57%.
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>>561114660
>graves 51% and rising
revert the buffs yoshit
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Can Rem's ult just be changed so it cant go through walls there's NO reason it should absolutely none
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>>561114550
>several characters stronger than him
I can think of, like, two and they were both nerfed.
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BLEED!
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>have to restart game after every match
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how wraith looks at you before yelling LIFTING!!!! now that it's at 10m

is her drum mag supposed to be clipping through the floor like that or is it a mod I installed causing that lmao
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>>561114831
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https://files.catbox.moe/s5boiv.mp4

Flying in to rape an enemy laner is the best part of playing Ivy, especially if you have someone to drag along.
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>>561114806
>kelvin
>ivy
>calico
>wraith
>mcginnis
>celeste
>i would say shiv but he's always in that weird spot where he's simultaneously kind of shit in ladder but always incredible in comp
Ivy and Calico got a slap on the wrist, not sure how I feel about the Wraith and McGinnis nerfs but on paper they look far less impactful than the Victor nerfs, and Kelvin and Celeste got buffed. Victor was already hovering around the low 50% winrate in the elos that matter, he was only overbearing in shitlow. Nuking him from orbit while leaving the actual strong characters is full on retarded.
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>>561115174
>celeste
dumb troon
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>vyper is absolutely reaming us 10 to 0 10 minutes in
>everyone buys slowing/disarm/metal skin
>becomes absolutely useless
if only more people got this BUY COUNTER ITEMS it can make someone's hero literally completely worthless STOP BUYING BOUNDLESS SPIRIT YOU DONT NEED IT
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>just yesterday victor bitches were like "HAHA HE'LL NEVER GET NERFED HAHA" and now they're whining
fucking LOL you pick meta slave characters this is what'll happen dont worry the patch just came out there'll be another broken character for you to abuse just be patient
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>>561115283
>everybody buys gun counter items
>the other 5 spirit nukers rape you
forgot to include this part
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>>561115283
I genuinely don't even get the point of boundless spirit, isn't it pretty pointless to get when 1 there are better spirit items 2 if you go full spirit you'll hit all the investment points anyway
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>>561115405
nah we won but to be fair they had calico (just kept inting) rem yamato and no one else of note at least
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>>561115372
big talk like they aren't gonna to walk this change back, even non-victorfags agree it's an overstep
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>>561115372
but i have fun playing victor
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>>561115428
>I genuinely don't even get the point of boundless spirit
BIGGGG DAMMMMM
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>>561115475
>walk this change back
yes because that is what they do now
>even non-victorfags agree it's an overstep
no we dont
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>>561115405
>>561115465
for reference
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all the fomo stuff in the hideout is the winter update souveiner and the two "i voted" stickers right, i didnt miss out right!?!?
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>>561115457
sniff sniff
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>>561115620
uh your sex with abrams poster above the pc bro?
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>>561115580
>EE on mirage
Thats bad right? Doesnt he do one instance of burst damage every so often
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>>561115174
I don't know what's worse, saying he was okay before or saying he's bad now
metro was playing victor and you know how much of a meta slave that faggot is so no he wasn't just a noob stomper, what's 30% less LIFE STEAL, not healing to someone that heals 10k total in a fight
victor actually started winning more today in eternus too probably because people started realizing how overtuned he was and honestly still is
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>>561115428
the game's still very wip and there are abilities that have very high spirit scaling. if you buy boundless spirit then these abilities with over 2x scaling (warden cage, talon shot, etc.) will easily reach over 600 damage. pay attention to the part on boundless spirit that says, +15% spirit power. that means items and abilities that give big spirit power, like enchanter's emblem, surge of power, witchmail, infuser, kelvin's ice path, can boost the damage of these 2x scaling abilities by hundreds. most people including pros haven't figured this out yet but there's a reason this recent patch just nerfed dynamo stomp scaling, boundless spirit, etc.
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Where the fuck is Grey Talon? I just realised I havent seen one in like 20 games
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>>561115701
His scarabs last for a while and can synergize with the pop but I wouldn't buy it on him.
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>>561115174
>Victor was already hovering around the low 50% winrate in the elos that matter, he was only overbearing in shitlow.
He was 55+% in eternus however
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>>561115620
those stickers are going to be worth 50,000 dollars each in 20 years like the katowice ibuypower stickers
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>>561115780
His model is ugly so no one plays him (he's absurdly strong btw)
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>>561115934
Eternus is shitlow, pros are retarded and boosted, the real rank is Seeker
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i would rape every paige brawl player if i could
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why in the absolute fuck do I have to tell my team to not go 6 spirit carries and to buy knockdown and phantom strike (on mo) vs a fucking gray talon

in an ascendant 3 game

and they still dont fucking listen
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>>561115708
I didn't say he was balanced before and I didn't say he was suddenly unplayable now. I said there are multiple characters who are clearly better who got shit like slightly increased cooldowns while he took a nuke in the face of his entire kit's identity. This is like if they tried nerfing Haze by adding a stat that makes it so rico bullets do 30% less damage. It's a weird and lazy change that signals they don't know what this character should be. Why make the low health pool frontliner whose tankiness comes from lifesteal... steal 30% less life? Nerf some other component of his kit, not the thing that makes him worth picking.
>>561115934
Costs $0.00 to pull up tracklock and see it's 52% over the past month (0.7% higher than Graves which everyone calls the worst character in the game btw).
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>>561116006
So that's how it works, now I get it
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>>561115780
I rarely ever see his ugly ass but whenever I do I am always reminded why I hate this stupid redskin
Literally vindicta but better
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>>561116032
Drifter…
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i lost 10 games in a row in the new patch
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>>561116113
It just came out an hour ago anon
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>>561116032
THIS. SO MUCH THIS.
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>>561116036
If NA they're blasting zoomer mumble rap/listening to podcasts with the game muted
If EU they're ESL and cant understand you
If Oceania they dont exist
if South Africa they're cranking the handcrank to power their electricity
If Asian they're too busy typing a 30 page essay saying every other asian country sucks
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>>561116036
Oh sorry it was an ascendant FOUR game
what the fuck
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>>561116113
I won 10 games ina row in the new patch
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>>561115769
I accept your concession seekerschizo.
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>>561116032
oh no please don't haha
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>check victor channel in the deadlock discord
>they are still crying and complaining
the nerf is getting reverted isn't it
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>>561116170
celeste/shiv anon...
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>>561116129
no it didn't because game client didn't update
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>>561113448
Only if she also starts with 2k hp and high hp growth.
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>>561116143
>If NA they're blasting zoomer mumble rap/listening to podcasts with the game muted
This game's NA audience is primarily queer theater kids who are watching a 10 hour long YouTube video essay about the leftist themes of Shrek 2001, they will also frequently pause their games to hit blunts
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>>561116194
Dont be intimidated by SeekerGAWDS
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>>561116270
>pause their games to hit blunts
Based af
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>>561116319
Comedy
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>>561116319
kino
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>>561116319
silly boosted calinigger
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>not a single paradox buff
excuse me
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So who's the nigger youtuber who said Victor has a 60% winrate in eternus anyway? I keep seeing this repeated and it's literally not true.
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>>561116319
that doorman absolutely fucking styled on her with that cheeky door move, intentionally or not
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>>561116319
seems like an fine play she's obviously disoriented from the doornigger, recovers in 0.5 seconds, and tries to run to safety. what should she have done other than conserve a dash to cover more ground
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>>561116234
It's not even that bad. These faggots have no idea about Healbane and Radiant Regeneration.
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>>561116319
I am thoroughly enjoying watching meta abusing boosted onetricks getting torn a new one
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>>561116494
KEK this is the same shit as Victor before the nerfs, that faggot had the second highest eternus winrate after Calico yet shithigh still kept saying Victor was a noob stomper who could just be shut down by a single person buying curse
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>From F tier to S+ because she spawns two shitters
I'm not buying it.
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>erm this guy used a hyperbole and said victor is 60% and not 54% which he currently is on tracklock so I'll just disregard everything else!
if I have to read healbane and victor in the same sentence one more time I'll go get some dirt on yoshi and make him delete this fucking character
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>>561116591
its more so she's able to do her job now that there arent op niggers running around
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>>561116618
buy healbane agaisnt victor
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>graves gun dps still not buffed
What are they doing??
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>>561116032
That's what they fucking want retard
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>>561116451
its just funny she doored herself lol
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>My Alchemist 3 ass just pulled a win out of my ass with Graves
>Come here
>She's S+ Tier and I'm apparently boosted
Oh...
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>>561116421
Valve have attempted to nerf him, so it went down and hopefully that continues
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So the Metaslaves are all playing graves now? sorry graves players who stuck with her at her lowest you're at the back of the line let the wraith victor bitches past
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vampiric or ulti build which is better for seven in helping noobies to win
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>>561116663
Learn to IAD you fucking moron.
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Will Victor 2 cleanse him of his self-healbane?
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Did the new buffs save /ourgirl/?
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>>561116763
Neither. Slap people with your big balls instead
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>Looking at leaderboard
>Apparently I'm the rank 372 doorman, 673 Lash, and 727 Apollo
Neat.
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>>561116618
Where's the 54% winrate? Even if balancing around winrate was a good idea, you can clearly see his winrate go down as you click through the ranks. He goes from a shitstomper in low ranks (almost 60%) to above-average in high ranks (low 50s).
>thinks healbane is the counter item
Shitlow detected. No wonder you hate this character.
>>561116695
You can see % changes too buddy. It has barely changed since the patch (no shit, it's like 9 hours old).
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>>561116779
This ain't gunz zoomzoom. Go back to your adhdslop.
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>>561116848
>mcnigger still up there
Uhh, is her ult still OP?
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>>561116851
Nobody cares unc.
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Lash sex
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>>561116848
i still dont know why seven is good. seems mid
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>>561116931
Still slows you to a crawl, still melts.
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>>561116931
Yes, this faggot character was basically untouched in the most recent patch.
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>Trophy collector
>Stun scroll
>Ivy ult now stuns everyone on the screen
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>>561116663
Because auto aim guns are literally not allowed to be good. and that's a good thing
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We need a based and chudly friends of humanity hero
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>brawl as haze
>sprinted around focus firing enemies all game
>5-1
>2nd lowest damage in the game
i am banned from this hero
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>>561096112
>Apollo gun buff
>Reposte buff
Oh thats co-
>Nerfs to pretty much every item he relies on
Welp
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>>561117062
I don't really feel like she's ever in a bad state and have no clue why they redesigned her skills with the rebalance patch
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>>561117107
Your Warden?
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>>561116968
Vyper…
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gonna miss unga bunga victor......now its m1gger infernus' time to shine
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>>561117223
is there a lore reason why he's dressed like a cop
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>>561117325
it was a joke he was there
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>>561117325
There isn't one, it's Yamato tier placeholder
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>>561117325
he was some police officer futuristic swat guy in neon prime so when they made deadlock retro urban they just made him a bobby likely without considering the setting's location
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BLEED!
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Every time I play lash I feel like I'm in an edit.
I fucking love playing lash.
https://x.com/i/status/2031995246532276631
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>>561117536
Lash looks fun but is learning to move like Spiderman a requirement for playing him?
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midboss is way too op. should be a +2000 health buff or something instead
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Here's your eternus teammate bro
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man spirit really gets cucked hard late game when everyone has spellbreak and spirit res
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>>561117325
Placeholder model, but he is part of a order with the sole purpose of protecting humanity from chaos and ensuring that order is maintained, so him looking like a cop isn't really that crazy.
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>>561117648
wtf im eternus material?!
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>>561117214
Her problem is that her kit is inherently too good
>Large area aoe and slow
>Damage and heal amp from two characters, even if you aren't near your team it works with npcs
>Aoe damage + stun + heal + i-frames
>Flying + shield + damage amp + large aoe damage
Her numbers would have to be absolutely sub terrainian to not be just baseline good in a teamfight.
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>>561117648
>no echo shard on cage
not a real eternus warden
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>>561117648
he changed the world today
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>>561117325
>>561117408
>>561117471
They should make an actual NYPD cop character, and have him be able to switch between a pistol for range and a pure melee baton
>>561117674
Anything is possible when you get boosted up to the big leagues sonny
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i tried mo & krill for teh first time and have determined it's a cheatcode character
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>>561117618
Damage scales with how high up you are, so being able to maneuver the top rope is very helpful
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>>561117760
We have you now.
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>>561117753
>special end of game winning animation where he slaps giant handcuffs on the enemy patron for disrupting the peace
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I'm not trying to say Silver is OP or UP but I don't know what greens to buy on her because she just immediately explodes and if you invest too much into greens you do no damage idk lol
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>>561117618
pressing majestic leap is far easier than spiderman tech
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>>561117107
they need to bring trapper back except make him a obese balding white man who is voiced by a elmer fudd impersonator
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>>561116404
she's foin
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>>561117698
I wouldn't even care if kudzu dealt zero damage provided it slowed more and reduced dash distance.
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>>561117536
Honestly the communities reaction to lash makes me genuinely think they need to have more actual Lash fan ritualists that isn't just Vyper.
It'd be nice to have some interactions where he's actually treating his fans well.
>>561117618
Depends on what you mean by move like spiderman.
Everything about his kit except his 3 wants him to be super vertical. All his damage comes from being as far up above his opponent as possible for his one as it scales more the longer he falls, his 4 gets more range the higher up he is too.
You can get away with majestic leap and his 2 for normal play, good movement just makes him much better.
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how do i get kills with sinclair (brawl)?
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>>561117618
>get stamina mastery
>press 2 on literally anybody
>you can now stay in the air forever
>get radiant regen
>you now have infinite sustain
>get unstoppable and refresher
>ult twice
>you just won the game gg (bonus points if a dynamo is on your team, coordinate with him to ult people for him to ult)
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>>561116006
>the real rank is Seeker
join us in the muck
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>>561117972
>how do i get kills with sinclair (brawl)?

>how do i get kills with x character
first you need to examine sinclair, what parts of him do damage?
>the 1
>the clones can fire bullets and also clone 1
>the ults also can do damage
then you build towards making one of those stronger
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>>561117972
Punch people in the face.
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>haze and mo just start farming and just keep farming through team fights and all
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>>561117032
fuck
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>win match
>key player
>rank down
this game is imploding upon the dev teams incompetence
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>just bought this thing last week to level up my deadlock play
>they essentially remove victor from the game today
Uh... what do I do now?!
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>>561118394
love it when both sides completely ignore jungle as it makes the game so much faster for everyone
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>>561118543
i still don't understand what that is
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>>561118543
find a new braindead OP char to play, game is littered with them
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>Lose 3 matches in a row cause of enormous skill differences
>Literally 50-60K soul gaps
>b-b-b-b-buh buh but we CANT do surrender voting!! everyone will just use it!!!

yeah no shit troon, if everyones too garbage to kill the 6-stack they're fighting I want to surrender.
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restarting game after every match
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>>561118634
>b-b-b-b-buh buh but we CANT do surrender voting!! everyone will just use it!!!
this but unironically
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>>561118634
Just buy fortitude and go steal all sinners or something while they take your shit.
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>>561118634
even if you can "come back" in 5% of games, if each surrender saved 15 minutes that nearly 5 hours of time saved with surrender instead of being miserable locked into a game. luckily they aren't banning for afking so I just pull up some porn or youtube if I know the game is doomed, but they may change this later
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How do you play Abrams?
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>>561118659
umm sweaty its your 9800x3d 5090 toaster maybe you should stop being poor?
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>>561118891
Punch hard or be a bootleg Victor.
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>>561118582
It's the single best gaming keypad on the market.
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>>561118960
I thought everyone parried heavy punches
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>>561119094
I do but that is because I have autoparry script
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>>561119094
That's why you permastun them to a wall.
>>561119146
Nigger.
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>>561119094
Bait the parry
Know when you actually can get away with heavy punch (when they're cc'd, etc)
Give zero fucks and punch anyway
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>>561119094
They stop parrying in everything below ascendant during the chaos of teamfights, but you should also learn how to parrybait (punch in someone's direction but don't actually make contact, if they parry go in)
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>>561119146
I swear a pocket had this in my last game but it must have been bugged or set to weird parameters because he'd parry completely randomly.
>Walking to lane- parry
>Enemy gets within 3 feet- parry
>Go over urn pedistal- parry
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>>561118927
THE ITS SHADER COMPILNIG CAUSING BUGS and fps drops and crashing fuck valve breaking the game
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>>561118634
>>b-b-b-b-buh buh but we CANT do surrender voting!! everyone will just use it!!!
Fuck no, retards will beg for surrender if they die once in lane
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>>561118543
You should be playing viktor on a steering wheel controller
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>>561119256
>Give zero fucks and punch anyway
thats a great way to just die
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>>561119405
This only happens to me because I have both parry and reload on scroll wheel
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fuck you bitch ;)
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>>561119645
Pussy
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It's so refreshing to play a non-gimped hero. Having my fun with warden and it's so astoundingly different when a niglico does her combo on me and can just simply turn around and rape her instead.
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>The Taxman's audit begiiiins!
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>>561119751
>calico appears
>immediately press slowing hex
>BWOOM
>echo shard
>BWOOM
>THIS IS MY MOMENT
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when are they going to nerf this bullshit fuck victor
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TIME TO PULL OUT THE BIG GUNS
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>>561117851
>Reactive Barrier if you're intending to go Silence Wave + Bullet Resist Shredder
>Weapon or Spirit Shielding if not (difference compared to barrier is small anyway)
>Healing Booster (if they're too stupid to buy antiheal)
>Restorative Locket (good stam even if they buy antiheal, sell later for slot if needed)
>Warp Stone
>Stamina Mastery
>Lifestrike (again, if no/minimal antiheal)
>the appropriate Resilience item
All good choices
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>>561119992
I don't actually buy slowing hex, the claw is too easily countered by dispel magic, if you toss slowing hex it's way more likely they will buy dispel. So it's more useful to dissuade them from getting it since in teamfights I can claw someone and force them to fuck off with the silence.
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why does mirage's mark do so much fucking damage now?!
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we tried so hard and these guys just kept dying over and over again.
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>>561120424
Because the rest of his kit does nothing
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>>561120498
Silver was such a menace, how did you manage to win against her spawn camping?
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>>561120498
but you won
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>>561120424
I don't know they buffed spirit burst on a bunch of heroes a couple patches ago and have only slightly walked it back including by nerfing spirit for the entire cast and a chunk of spirit items instead of reverting the changes that made certain heroes chunk everyone.
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>>561120409
different builds, echo cage nuke build has a 100% 1v1 success rate when it hits until the enemy gets unstop. in cage nuke build the hex is just used to bait out dispel so they get hit by the double 500dmg cages, also the first cage can be used to force out counterspell or warpstone
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>Graves has a 56% winrate in Eternus in the last 24 hours
Her buffs are actually that huge?
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>>561120802
yes
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>>561120751
Makes sense, I've just been a little hybrid with flaskmaxing. Get quicksilver and you just never stop shooting with maxed flask.
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am i insano or does it not say who's talking in vc is that by design?
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>>561120802
Might be but there's only 175 games played, give it a couple days.
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>game drops to 20fps
this shitlock is now doing everything possible to me to uninstall this piece of shit
fix the shader compaling gaben
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>>561120915
next week ;)
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>>561120985
NO
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>>561120915
yeah the fps drops and 'slow server frame' combined with packet loss in almost every match is getting old. fucking source 2
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Rem feels like a better example of a stealth hero than Haze.
Rem is like playing Thief, whereas Haze is like playing TF2 spy.
>actively avoiding line of sight as Rem, waiting for enemies to turn around corners so you can cross over and take their sneeders sacrifice unnoticed.
>Haze is like using spy's cloak and you just casually stroll around and your only worry is bumping into someone up close.
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>>561120985
She will either be useless or broken. It's a fundamental problem of being the only melee hero in the cast.
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>>561120985
Why is MinaxSilver so hot? It doesn't even make sense lore wise and they don't have any dialogue
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drifter ult is the most broken spell in the game but we're not ready for that conversation.
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shiv sucks cack all he does is killsteal
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>>561121096
>no one plays rem stealthily and just takes own sinners to farm damage items so they can spam pillow nuke on everything
>aka average thief player never ghosting and just blackjacking every entity on the map
it tracks
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>>561121361
Thieving from your own team still counts as thieving
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>have a mirage on team
>he goes on a 5 kill streak, highest net worth in lobby
>dies to a drifter with 10k fewer souls
>doesn't do anything midgame or lategame
why does this hero exist again
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>>561121753
For the djinn.
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>>561112831
should be able to jump higher when it swaps to that personality
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>>561113524
ever seen a game called dota?
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>>561106862
>54% winrate instead of 57%
it's... over...
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>>561121840
>Henry can jump higher but can't hear the sound of Infernus' ult timing down
Would this be balanced
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*lunges towards you* GET OUT OF MY FACE
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>>561120985
That should be ME under Silver there, GOD DAMN IT
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>>561121285
Hatefucking is something special.
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i love abrams
the problem is i have to play early game abrams
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>playing Rem
>have around 2k souls
>min 29
>teamfight starts
>we wipe their team
>I grab urn while team does midboss
>turn in urn
>crack egg
>midboss dies
>nearly 9k souls
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>>561122017
PISS AWFF
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>>561121285
mina doesn't really have much dialogue with many people though
they might be planning or changing something for her
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>>561120985
Not really, most of the buffs are just quality of life stuff. The most important thing is the kill refresh thing so you don't get trolled by a support.
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>enemy shiv has ten kills at the end of lane phase
so its over right
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>>561122690
AH TRIED TO BE NICE
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>>561122690
if hes doing the meme bleed stacking build then its a free win for you since that falls off after 10 minutes
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>>561122690
Yeah, sounds like the Baxter Society has your number.
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>Shiv is now 45% win rate instead of 44% win rate
MILLIONS ARE DEAD
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Love losing 30 minutes of my life under grueling assrape because the enemy team lucked out with hero picks while my team has 3 supports and a Mirage.
Still no draft after 2+ years but thank god Faggot Aids Blast spirit scaling was reduced by 0.00002 and its cooldown was increased by 1 second. Fucking retarded nigger game conjured by a demonic hobgoblin to siphon my chi and reduce me to a gray husk of sort
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>bebop has now been shit for multiple patches and they don't bother to touch him
yeah they don't know what they're doing anymore
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5 consecutive L's today, hope you're doin better than me.
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>>561122975
>>bebop has now been shit for multiple patches and they don't bother to touch him
And that's a good thing
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>play with a couple greedy friends
>win most games, the randoms even them out
>play in a 6 stack
>its all greedy fucks, no frontliners, no intiators, no response to fights breaking out, we all must farm

I dont even know what to play with these fucks to have fun. we just get slowly starved out by any team that rotates as a team often. if I play a frontline initiator who wants to fight like mo/abrams/dynamo then Ill just be perma pissed when they dont rotate or follow up on my initiation. if I try to play a carry theyre going cultist kelvin and perma farming a lane and jungling on doorman leaving me nothing to farm.

theres also the big difference of facing other 6 mans vs the random solos you get as a 2-3 man but god is it awful when an entire team is greedmaxxing and idk how to compliment it
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I'm Jeanne (apollo). What do you even do here? That's Abrams's damage btw. And of course veinydickta fed non-stop.
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>>561122906
Cry more
>>561122991
God bless you anon, you're doing fine. We're all going to make it
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>>561100120
Still never played this shit because of it
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>>561122906
yeah can't wait for draft
>ME MID MINA ONLY OR FEED
>you ban haze? ok afk
>Hey guys can i please get rem? I only know how to play rem
>WHY THE FUCK YOU BAN MO AND KRILL ILL KILL YOU NIGGER ILL KILL YOU
>guys play [hero that combos with my hero] please bro I don't care if you've never played them
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>tried mirage
>dat sa lot daamge
>team doing their best to make me lose
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>>561123289
I kinda prefer just getting tossed into the shit over drafting
I get why it's needed but I prefer the mystery of not knowing what people actually signed up as
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>>561123336
wraith and viscious spammers in shambles
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>new characters are the hardest to balance
what a surprise
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>>561123031
Ok poopranker
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>>561123136
Keep holding the game back you dumb cuck

>>561123289
Toxic players will cry regardless, at least the game won't be reduced to a dice roll
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>>561123537
Keep crying
>Toxic players will cry regardless,
Ohhhh the ironing
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>>561123679
You have nothing of value to say regarding the video game. Now be quiet. *cums on your face* Good girl
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>>561123289
i don't play traditional mobas, is troll picking considered griefing/reportable by itself or would you have to full throw the entire game
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>>561123760
I accept your concession. Go back to crying about how you keep unga'ing and your team keeps bunga'ing like the toxic little crybabby you are
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>>561123857
Nah if you do well who cares. This counts troll builds too, if you can make gun paige work and go 20/0 then you know what so be it.
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>>561123857
Depends on the game, dota you can do whatever you want and valve doesn't much care, LoL is much stricter.
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I officially hate silvers wolf form, it fucking sucks so much that I almost wish I could disable it
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>>561124042
just dont unlock it bro?
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>>561124042
Please don't say that... That's horrible...
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>>561122906
lack of draft is really gay but one tricks will bitch and moan if you tell them they may have to play another hero
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>>561124018
dota and league fucking suck
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>>561124042
OH GOD.... ITS HAPPENING AGAIN!!!!!!!!
>Trigger wolf form
>Run the fuck away since the form is a straight up debuff
I guess the 'curse' part is accurate.
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>>561124062
I play street brawl I don't have a choice
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won all my games today (Paradox)
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>there's an entire argument in chat
>everyone says "sorry that was rude lets just play we'll win"
wtf world am i in?!
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>>561124202
>>Run the fuck away since the form is a straight up debuff
YES OH MY GOD SHE LITERALLY TAKES MORE FUCKING DAMAGE AS THE SHITTY FORM THAN HER NORMAL SELF. I FUCKING HATE WHAT THEY'vE DONE
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>doorman's weakness is that half his kit isn't functional until his abilities are 5
>nerf bell so that it needs level 5
>don't change cart so it's still useless until 5
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>561124262
Ive been throwing on paradox ive played 4 games and got 2 whole kills
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so.... why did they only buff abrams melee damage and not billy's, who is THE literal melee character
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>>561124368
because billy players can eat shit?
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>>561124202
>>561124284
I just don't understand why they're insisting on doing everything except just giving wolf form its base resists back
Like I didn't ask for all these human form buffs or extra move speed or useless ability range scaling, please can't we just get a bit of (counterable) tankiness back in beast mode??
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I fall off so hard as Drifter
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I'm at a point where I just afk when we're about to lose the game 0-3 in street brawl man im tired of the stomps this shit aint fun and im tired of being told that I need to carry the whole fucking team when I ask why the matchmaking is always so shit by a bunch of ass kissers who don't actually play the fucking game.
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>>561124572
Street Brawl is fucking awful why do you expect it to be balanced?!
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>>561124284
Silver becomes a gigantic target so obviously you'd take more damage since it's impossible to miss her.
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>>561124493
BECAUSE VALVE FUCKING SUCKS AS DEVS AND THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN GOOD FOR MULTIPLAYER GAMES. "oh but dota 2" DOTA 2 FUCKING SUCKS AND HAS IT'S OWN EGREGIOUS PROBLEMS THAT ALMOST PERFECTLY MIRROR HOW THIS FUCKING GAME IS BEING BALANCED AND IM TIRED OF BEING TOLD THAT IT ISN'T A FUCKING PROBLEM
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>>561124368
billy does NOT need buffs
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>>561124572
>retard plays the rng mode and throws a fit when he loses
lmao, dumbass
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>>561124612
also her head is 50% of the model
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>>561124652
Standard is also pure rng right now due to matchmaking thougheverbeit.
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>>561124651
>pressing f makes the entire character useless
i think he did mr anonskie
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>Dashfernus being a nigger as usual
>His lane partner is Wraith
>Got mogged lane phase but managed to bounce back somewhat but things still look dire towards mid game
>Tell team to buy curse/slowing hex
>They listen
>We flip the game and win even defeating them while they had Rejuv.
Huh. It feels strange when people listen to you. This was in Archon.
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>>561124720
>right now
>due to matchmaking
Nobody tell him. Just let him suffer in samsara forever.
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>me unga
>team also unga
life is good
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>>561124820
It wasn't this bad before.
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>>561124737
I am very much tilted, mad is an understatement.
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>love knights love bretonnia from warhammer fantasy
>knight character is a librarian woman
fucking thing sucks man...
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>>561124978
I never found a single one of these edits amusing
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>>561125016
It literally keeps getting worse and worse and the fact that almost no one ever wants to bring this up outside of places willed with neets (not discord) is almost shocking
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>>561125016
You'll suffer forever until you realize all matchmaking of all kinds cannot ever be anything except random due to the simple variable nature of human existence
People will always be different from one another and they are too complex to measure, you can only ever get an approximation of a balanced match and you will never get truly balanced matches in any game ever
Even the best players have bad games and make mistakes, so have you. Even shitters occasionally play out of their minds, so have you.
That, plus the certified shitters will always have to go somewhere, and as we've seen in this very general, people (primarily other shitters) will always be looking to complain about those both above and below them and will always be looking for some excuse
You will NEVER escape samsara until you realize there cannot ever be a multiplayer game nor format untouched by RNG. You must learn to embrace it, there's no other way
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>>561124721
billy likes light melees, which are harder to predict
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>>561125092
Are we living in alternate universes or something, literally every online discussion place for this game has constant bitching about matchmaking.
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Does Kinetic Dash always work as long as you dash jump? Reloading just resets your ammo back to normal?
Isn't that kinda OP?
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>>561125281
It's not OP because you have limited stamina lil bro
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>>561125210
People need to understand that even good players in your elo will have bad games and run it down
There's nothing valve can do about that realistically.
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>>561125210
>>561125331
you guys are retarded eomm allows games to be rigged nearly 99% of the time. see: marvel rivals, cod

so matchmaking can be "perfected" to force wins or losses
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>>561122906
>>561123537
rank in games with draft?
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shiv players when they set their dpi to 50k and altfire boost every 300ms just to go 1-12-3
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eomm faggots out go cope somewhere else.
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>>561125325
I guess. It uses 2 stamina for the passive.
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>>561125210
>sickest art style in years wasted on 40 minute RNG cortisolslop
Grim. Workshop support could salvage this
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>>561125039
i hate paige for being a stupid e whore magnet and support bitch, but i truly despise her for making a possessed suit of armor hero way less likely
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>>561125250
every god damn time I've ever talked about it I get told to pound sand and 1v4 or 1v6 the fucking team
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>>561118634
Consider playing a game you actually enjoy instead of a game you just liking winning in.
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THERE IS NO COUNTER
METAL SKIN DOESN'T LAST LONG ENOUGH
"JUST RUN" BITCH SHE HAS WARP STONE
YOU CAN'T CURSE IT CAUSE UNSTOPPABLE
UNSTOPPABLE IS UP EVERY TIME SHE USES IT
IT PROCS RICOCHET
IT DOES BULLET AND SPIRIT DAMAGE
SHE HAS 60% BULLET EVASION YOU CAN'T EVEN GUN HER DOWN FROM RANGE
JUST MELEE MOTHER FUCKER SHE KILLS ME BEFORE I CAN EVEN GET A HEAVY OUT
KILL YOURSELF YOSHI
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>>561125570
The art style is going to shit what are you talking about lol
Every remodel is just flanderizing the characters
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>>561124639
Uh oh Silvertroon melty
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>>561125249
throwing out random parries while hes shooting you invalidates light melees, 50/50 playstyle dogshit hero
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billy sounds like such a drip and he sounds annoying so if i never see him again it'll be cool
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>enemy Infernus uses napalm and flame dash without even shooting at me and all my hp goes down the shitter
we still won but what the fuck, spirit Infernus is pretty nuts
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>>561125210

doesn't change the fact the deadlock mm is extra bad because of :

>hero mmr
>mmr decay(top tier players playing in low ranks because they didn't play for 2 months)
>like a month ago some retard decided to put brand new accounts in ORACLE(seems to be fixed now but the damage is done until these people drop ranks)\
>blatant low effort high reward heroes inflating their otps mmr
>laughable leaver penalty as the cherry on top
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billy has like much drip and he sounds steez so if i play him again it'll be cool
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>>561124639
This
They ruined Counter-Strike with each installment and then microtransactions, CS2 is one of the worst shooters ever made, somehow even worse than Valorant.
TF2 was only good before the class updates and went downhill from there
DOTA2 was always garbage, and only Russians and chunks play it.
L4D is good because it's PvE
>>561125765
You have a Silver deranged syndrome, seek help my dude
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>other games
>"damn I lost, but maybe I can learn from it"
>deadlock
>"UUUUURRRGGGH I LOST HHRRRRGGGGH MATCHMAKING BAD RETARDED TEAMMATES IM PRO I DONT DESERVE TO LOSE!"
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>>561126021
who art thou quoting sir fag of the fagwater?
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>>561126060
Seeing as how you got upset enough to call me a fag, I must've been quoting you.
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Getting kills on Paradox is hard maybe a kinetic carbine build isnt the way to go...
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>>561126021
leaguetrannies getting filtered by icefrog pt.2 (Ft. shooterfags)
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>>561126176
just spam bombs like every other braindead nigger paradox player and delete objectives and people
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>>561126395
thats so boring though if i wanted to spam bombs i'd play geist
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>>561126435
>>561126435
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>>561125698
genuinely if your damage break down looks like this you deserve to be fucking publicly executed
yoshi needs to nerf this build into the ground so these boosted fucks can go back to alchemist
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>>561125089
how could you not chuckle at the elephant sinners on the rem one
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>>561102965
>Street Molest
>Enemy Billy gets Enhanced Crushing Fist Round 1
>No rebuttal for anyone on our team.
Even random draft lets you always have a counter picks in the pool.
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>>561105197
>We make a good team
WE!?
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>>561105290
I used to try hard a lot on dota by using coms all game, effective but exhuasting. Why, because I shut down the retard speak that goes on. You can tell when it's going to go real downhill when coms is filled with nonsense that doesn't involve the current match/play. Like they are too casual for a ranked match, you have to shut them down right away or they will give you the it's just a game or something lame, then go play a normal or turbo.
Now for deadlock it gets worse cause there is an additional person adding to the chatter, and you don't stare at the map as often compared to dota. That being said you get two retards talking inefficiently and no one can hear the pings of your other teammate ganking or getting ganked.
Speakless Say More is the mantra that you have hammer into some of these casual fags.
Mind you I don't do this for deadlock unless it's been going on all match. It's exhausting having to tard wrangle, but your teammates not spamming voice will instantly recognize.
Yes it's not even released yet, but they also clicked on the competitive queue option, so SYNAU
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>>561107539
Was made to pass sbi's checkboxes and to please arab investors.
Give him the largest cameltoe on his original splash art.
literally yells
>I DO NOT HAVE A MANGINA
what did Valve mean?
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>>561108529
>I thought I had this under control
>AWOOO
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>>561100538
she is
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>>561112440
Nope we are going to rework techies so he can be a brooollller
Easy to counter hero with a 50 gold item, nah too hard. brool brool brool



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