Dairy Queen Seven Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-226950>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>561267669
>>561301749built for knots
>>561301749REMYOU ARE A NIGGER
>>561301749HI FRENNSS
>teammate criticizes me and says I must be a low rank>tell him he can check my rank>he says he will after the game>pause the game and tell him to go ahead and look>he stays quiet for the rest of the gamelmao, imagine dick waving your rank around when it's not the highest
Sex with Venator
>BUT AT ETERNUS 4+Shut the fuck up, no one in this thread is playing in that circle jerk of like 30 people.Literally irrelevant to the matches we are engaging in.
>>561301865This is stupid, it's literally just Portal
>>561301712
You have Rem and Graves on the enemy team and at least one team member is gonna be on permanent janny duty, so fucking annoying.
>>561301749nursing on and swirling his little barbed cock in my mouth
>>561301856True I just use those statistics to prove statistics are retarded since Vyper has one of the highest win rates at E4+.
>>561301856e4 is literally top 1k
>>561302003They've always been the same people, they just flip flop between whoever needs to be downplayed currently (it's Graves right now)
>>561302003The silver upplayers 41%ed themselves after the buffs (Silver still needs more buffs)
>>561301856its about the agenda. you wouldnt understand because you stand for nothing
>>561302081Heroes can be radically stronger or weaker at different ELO levels. Also the lower sample size will throw stuff a bit, if someone is really good and mostly plays Vyper that may boost her WR for example.That doesn't apply when looking outside of just E4+
>>561302249I stand for Victor, Apollo and Dynamo hitting 0% winrate.
Parries on light attacks shouldn't stun and if you disagree you're probably a parryscripting rebuttalabusing nigger
GET THIS BITCH OUT OF MY STREET BRAWL RIGHT FUCKIGN NOW!!!!!!!!!1111
>>561301712Don't worry, when Silver Shift comes round again we'll see the usual upplayers and downplayers return
>open a stream for the first time curious to see how good players play apollo>non stop yapping>close stream
What your main says about youAbrams - You're either super chill or a massive try hard expecting your entire team to predict your strategy. You probably despise the parry mechanic.Apollo - Filthy FilipinoBebop - You get a kick out of the Hook-Mine-Uppercut, and you pray that Valve never fix the double-mine exploit because otherwise that means you might have to rely on skill.Billy - Silent pubstomper 80% of the time, 20% tryhard who feeds in the first 10. HARD.Calico - TBDCeleste - Twitter Parasite who probably latched onto the character because "muh transbian" despite there being zero proof. You probably gloat about your enemies "feeding" you either way.Doorman - Redditor who exclusively uses meme builds then wonders how the opponent somehow got into your backline (you left your 2 wide open). You spam 1 and let the March 6th buffs do all the rest.Drifter - Another silent pubstomper, but if things aren't going your way halfway through the match you probably disconnect or whine about your team in chat.Dynamo - You're trying your best to be a support and want to pull off Singularity group ults, but you either get shredded instantly or your team is off in Hawaii for some reason. Graves - You feed in the early game but you stopped caring after a while. You love the auto aim, but hate the reload time. Probably a twitter parasite.Grey Talon - You were a Hanzo/Huntsman sniper before deadlock, and now you want to pubstomp here. You miss 55% of your ult.Haze - TBDHolliday - Sheriff appreciator or Tumblrite with a lesbian headcanon. You've stopped bothering with unlocking your ult, and you live for barrel-jumppad combos you never get to pull off.
>Ivy ults>Yells "DIS NIGGAR"what the FUCK yoshi?!??!?!
>>561302647I think it should cause a brief 0.75s stun
>>561302770lomeine? hes fucking scrimming
>>561302838What the fuck is the double mine exploit
Yeah so Mirage is the new hero that is going to be on every match and overperforming every time huh? Third match in a row getting hit for 1500+ damage djinns marks 10 minutes into the game, good luck trying to kill him since hes now healing while you're dealing 20% less damage
>>561302003Let sleeping dogs lie, no pun intended but it's good to have some peace and quiet, they've been spamming the threads for weeks
Infernus - New player or seasoned vet. If the latter, you are a walking wildfire with a temper to match.Ivy - You never bother picking others up with your ult anymore after being yelled at for it too much. Your 3 almost always lands you in hot water.Kelvin - ANOTHER silent pubstomper, but you actually enjoy working WITH your teammates.Lady Geist - 4/9/15 on a GOOD day. You hate how little things work out even after hours of build research. I know your Internet search history and I pray you never volunteer at a nursing home.Lash - THE LASH MUST HAVE IBS, BECAUSE HE'S EITHER SHITTING ON THE ENEMY OR GETTING SHIT ONMcGinnis - Engineer main. You have no qualms about letting your team know that you want to go midboss. Absolute menace on Bridge lanes that aren't Broadway.Mina - Waifu player who either does pitiful damage or insane damage with her ult. You have ulcers on your lip from biting it every time you get hit with Knockdown.Mirage - ESL, will ragequit at any moment for unknown reasons.
>>561302859more like stimming
>>561302647i think parries should just block instead of stunning
Mo & Krill - You've studied Deadlock extensively, and you know the ins and outs. However, much like Dynamo you don't know why your team is never present when you need them and you either destroy or GET destroyed when using your ult. You have no shame in hunting down those who solo in the jungle.Paige - You have anger issues, you're someone's girlfriend or you're a tranquil force of nature who will lead your army (teammates) into hell without a single fucking word.Paradox - You are a Narcissist. It's not bad enough that you think you're so much cooler and better than everyone else, you NEED to let everyone around you know. If something goes wrong or you get defeated, it's NEVER your fault and actually it's totally part of your plan. You think "anonymous" is still the coolest thing and probably have a V for Vendetta mask in your room. Colossal cunt.Pocket - 41% win rate, and none of it is because you actually contributed anything. Your crowning achievement is running into a group of 4, pressing your ult and dying a split second after. No, assists don't count as you getting kills, that 1/13/11 is nothing to be proud of.Rem - Redditor, FurAffinity/e621 user or just plain weird. You probably use "heckin wholesome" in your vocabulary. If you are none of the above, you are the server's worst nightmare. The enemy will invest in counters, or you will show them the meaning of fear.Seven - Pubstomper, the vocal type. There may or may not be dust on your 2 key from how little you get to use it, but it doesn't matter - the hitsounds from your 1 and 4 are all you need.Shiv - TBD
>>561302975no one cares faggot
>keep your eye on my balls boise and girlsceleste confirmed trans?????!!?!
Silver - Another twitter parasite with "Transbian" delusions, but this time you're super obnoxious about it. You either stomp or GET stomped, and that werewolf form almost always triggers when you don't want it to if you're the latter.Sinclair - Top lad, but you hate how barebones he is in terms of interactions. You love playing him, HATE playing against him. But you're almost never angry at your team, just a little disappointed. Venator - You play DOOM, but you started with Eternal. Trying to go full damage build never works out for you, and even though you whiff 2 out of 3 of your Ult shots, seeing that chunk of health disappear from the enemy only pushes you to knuckle down and learn how to play better. Victor - 40% self-damage, 60% pain, and 100% reason to remember the pain. You saw a youtube short of a Victor player never dying in the heat of battle, but you've yet to achieve what you saw.Vindicta - Foot fetishist who's happy to play as an actual sniper in Deadlock. Like Mina, you dread Knockdown. You will flame the entire chat if you're not at 10 kills by midgame, and the concept of farming/jungle is foreign to you.Viscous - Just a silly little guy. A silly little guy with builds revolving around each of your abilities and a drive to troll the enemy with rapid Puddle Punch attacks.Vyper - Sliding Queen. You probably have carpel tunnel from shift, space and ctrl though, but you work through the pain to become a thorn in your enemy's side.Warden - Fucking DEMON with heavy metal constantly playing on YouTube. You're also kind of a prick who will type "gg ez" after every kill or get mad in all-chat when no-one is at midboss within 0.3 seconds of you telling your team.Wraith - You guys exist? Yamato - Weeb/tryhard. You are the opposite of Warden, in that you type "gg" when you or your teammates die instead of vice versa. Also, you're the first to flame someone in chat when you get killed by them in a 1v1 and your go-to is to call them a "cheater".
Is this AI generated
Did we just get a new turboautist
You shouldn't be "maining" anyone. it's gonna bite you in the ass when this game adds drafting. Counter-picks are gonna be a thing with 10+ bans.
Real Claude hour
>>561303285I think so, yeah.
>>561302926literally only needs escalating exposure, boundless, and ricochet the rest can all be green or utilitythe fix is really easy too, just make it scale differently instead of doubling the damage with each stack and compensate by providing some other kind of utility in his kit to reflect his nature as a bodyguard
UHMMM POOPDICKSCHIZO????IS THAT POOPDICKSCHIZO????
I think /vg/ could use some moderation, if you catch my drift
>>561302926looks like iran won the war
>>561303484Mentally ill. Needs correction.
stinking ixian NIGGERS
It's funny how you just buy refresher, cooldown, and duration on drifter and you win every game by making everyone blind as fuck
>>561302926>watching a spirit abrams with infuser popped getting outhealed by a mirage with two scarabsoh okay cool>>561303460did we get a ffxiv schizo in our general?
patch so bad it actively makes the general worse
>>561301749THEY CUTE
Why did Haze's winrate soar exactly?
Are the heroes swallowing goo when they're in the cube? Does it force its way up the hero's asshole and other orifices too?
Silver still needs buffs, and with all the upplayers having committed suicide there is no one to gaslight valve about it
>>561303843They made her ult a noobstomper again
>>561303165Futanari**
>>561303925yes yes and yesit's also warm and contracts around the hard member of male heroes and milks them for consumption by viscous
lol
Silver's gun is anachronistic.It has a picatinny rail which shouldn't exist yet, and the rear sight doesn't line up with the front sight properly.
>>561303683UHMMM
>>561303843They buffed her ult like two patches ago and the slightest 2% power loss on the other carries let her take her spot back again.
>>5613038439 second kill zone where you are slowed, stamina disabled and silenced. The counter to this is an item that slows you even more and only lasts half the ult duration.You managed to survive this? It's okay, her passive will make sure you'll get M1 to death anyway with her 20k soul lead because she's been getting fed the whole game.
>>561303217Silver, Warden and Yemato are too accurate, I kinda hate that
If every player's only purpose is to farm and to give you and your team opportunities to farm more and more of the enemy's farm, why isn't everyone picking and building for pure gun? Gun lets you zone, harass, push both heroes and lanes, all from a distance without putting yourself in danger like spirit builds and heroes.
>THE BARONESS OPEN'S ITS DOO-stone form>NO SURVIVO-stone form>I'D HIDE IF I WE-stone form>THIS HUNT... IS OV-stone form>BURN IT DOW-stone form>LASER'S RUNNING HO-stone form>AH TRIED TA BE NI-stone form
>>561304656What if you have a short range gun with short falloff and poor scaling like Mo
>>561304656>PVE modeCouldn't be me
>>561305043You don't pick that hero
>>561305021>*unzips dick*stone form
>>561304656Gun early is very solid for pressuring in lane but many characters can clear whole entire massive waves and camps with a skill
>>561305195
>>561305021>Stone fo->Curse!>*unzips dick*>Grabs tail>RAPE
>queue up >lose>queue up >lose>queue up >lose>queue up >lose>queue up >lose>queue up >lose>queue up>looks like we're about to win>lose>queue up >lose>queue up >lose>queue up >lose>queue up >loseahahahahhahahahhahahahhahaahahhahahahhahahahahahaa
>>561302838>Abrams - You're super chillheck yeah i am>You probably despise the parry mechanic.kill everyone who has ever pressed the F key
>>561305456what the FUCK is this
>>561305414play a better champ
Haven't played since I got drunk five weeks ago and went 0/13/3 with people on both teams viciously abusing me and I felt absolutely crushed and it affected my mental state for days.
>gave a commend to a 21/2 Silver that hard carried the enemy team and still lost because their team was too retarded to play the game>the two times Silver died was because I dobule ult'd as Dynamo and got assraped by our team>mfw less than 3 seconds after giving the like I get a friend request from that playeroh he was really pissed off LMAO
>>561305750Don't mix depressants with mobas.
>bro just punch the barrel don't shoot it!>punch the barrel>it flies off a million miles away before explodingI hate this shit so much it's unreal.
>>561305456GLOWNIGGER!
>>561304082>why is viscous so viscous
Yes, veescoos No, veescoos
>>561301749I'LL KILL YOU!!!
>>561305562haaaze is cumming for them
I'm only Ritualist and I'm already burnt out. I can't gather the energy to queue up a match.
Reminder that bans and restrictions for anything other than giving up are stifling the Aryan spirit and will doom this game to the same han locust swarm that ruined every other MOBA. You need unrestricted comms
>>561306234if you get high enough rank, people act more predictably, and its a bit less mentally exhausting (alegedly)
>>561306234https://raypeat.com/articles/
>>561306291looks like a smurf yamato that's allalso buy dispel magic like always
I self-insert as Krill.
>>561306291>>561306141are you a woman? why did you delete these posts kek
>>561306331cheating should be bannable and if you disagree I will exsanguinate your family
>>561301295buy echo shard first t4 item on warden every gamethank me later
>>561306464Obviously meant behavior punishments but I'd take cheaters 100% of the time to bugmen who mass report you for banter
worst part about haze's ult is that the ricochet range is way larger than the visual indicator
i just had a haze do 10k dmg 0 kills in my brawl FUCKING NIGGER
>>561306234you shouldn't be climbing for Eternusyou should be descending for Seekerjoin us in the muck
>stuck in forced 50/50 againrape yoshi
>>561306460Helping out the storage size on the website
Cursed Relic's duration is so short that even when I've seen it used against me the enemy team hardly ever had time to capitulate on it, and neither did I allow them to by schmoving.
>>561306783>to capitulate on itcapitalize, retard
Is this even a fair team composition? Every fucking hero in their team has massive mobility vs stationary heroes + heroes that rely on aim. You just couldn't get a damage in, they would scatter or ivy would come and pick them up before we could secure kills + this smurfing faggot. I haven't played the most cancerous matchup in my 200hrs on deadlock>>561306405I couldn't get a farm, i had the most bullshit lane. Shiv + Yamato with vindicta on my team. I prioritized hex ofer dispel this game. Reposting cuz i'm retarded
>>561305397>This twink cuck raping anyonelmao, he's only strong at running away
>>561306968hex only helps you lock down kills, dispel keeps you alivelatter is way more valuable in most cases
>>561306854I'm ETL.
>average ascendant 1 lobby
>>561307061english tard language
>calico/haze/wraith combo of pressing w+m1> :)>doorman combo that requires actual skill, three items, map knowledge and timing>NOOOOO REEEEEEEEEE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CREATIVE WITH THE DOORS YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO SPAM BELLS NERF NERF NERF NOW NOW NOW NOW
>>561306490I'm still new to warden. You're putting it on claw, I assume, right?
>>561305456>baldWhy? Whoever drew this needs to be touched>>561305910You're supposed to jump aim down and then punch it, it's not easy desu especially since it barley deals any meaningful damage
>>561305456why is she bald the X is way higher up than it should be
>>561307054ok, what else realistically i could do?
>>561303217where LASH and SHIV.
>>561307189>>bald>Why?because niggers are bald? the fuck?
why the fuck does yoshi always do this shit to mcginnis?>nerf gun>nerf wall>nerf turrets>nerf heal>insanely buff ultone week later:>nerf ulteverything about mcginnis is worse than before the big patch. everything.why the fuck does yoshi hate her so much?
>>561305456YOU WILL BE TOUCHED>>561307189
>>561305417>press and hold Q>quickly turn mouse to the side>win instantly
>>561307039Strongest laner in the game, imo
>>561307168>calico>m1?>>561307194i dunno, not too interested in doing a vod review. just saying
>>561307128Is that pyrocyincal?
In real life I'm nobody at my job but online when I'm logged into deadlock I'm the great Malpheous mainer of Seven and everyone loves me when they see me
>>561305456Haze has cute eyes and a cute face shape, this fanart makes her look like an alien thoughbeit
>>561307295>>nerf gun>>nerf wallJustified desu>>nerf turretsThey were buffed last patch with the gun>>561307345Early game sure, but late game he just runs away until you get bored and leave
>>561307350It's just an ugly blonde bong of indeterminate gender. Close, but no cigar.
>>561307189>You're supposed to jump aim down and then punch it, it's not easy desu especially since it barley deals any meaningful damageohhI got it now. This shit is so retarded to just make proper use of a basic ability.
is torment pulse on holiday retarded or am I a genius
Kelvin beam needs to be transparent, I literally can't see shit when this fuck pops his low cd long duration epilepsy schlong.
>silent>out of nowhere>Viscous aiiieeee squeaky death noise
>>561307486>late game he just runs away until you get bored and leaveAgreed. I keep saying that this this "lane bully who falls off late game" and "lane victim who megascales in late game" is terrible design. It sucks for other players to go against Apollo who is objectively just more powerful than you in lane, and it sucks to play as Apollo because you inevitably become a spectator as the match progresses. But everytime I say this, someone says that's how it is in DOTA so that's how it has to be here
>>561307628>character that spends minimal amount of time near enemiesdo you really want to buy it just for her ult?
>>561306697HE WAS ON MY TEAM THE VERY NEXT GAME (9k DMG)
>enemy Haze starts ulting a couple guys>everyone manages to escape with a good amount of health>OUR Dynamo decides to blink everyone back inside the Haze ult, mid-air>we get fucking shredded and loseI hate Dynamo players so goddamn much
You know they're mad when you're CURSED ALL GAME ALL THE TIME EACH TEAM FIGHT.
Yoshi here pitch me your stupi- I mean totally original and cool hero ideas
>>561307593>ohh>I got it now.congrats, now you have 1 ability that barely lands, good luck landing the 2 other retarded skill shots>>561307593>This shit is so retarded to just make proper use of a basic ability.i agree but it has some cool chinese tech if you invest 1 trillion hours
>>561307834it feels like the only time she seems to contributes anything is when her ult is up
>>561308085Tracer from Overwatch with no changes.
>>561308085Holliday, but not complete dogshit this time
>>561308085A heart warming Mexican or babaushka fat mom support that gives out healing by cooking. Kinda like Deckard Cain.
>>561308085Rape man1: Cock slap (you whip your cock out and slam it in front of you, aoe ground damage like Lash's ground pound)2: Jelq (you jerk off real quick to become faster and get bullet and spirit resist)3: Pelvic thrust (dash foward without wasting stamina)4: Rape (Mo&Krill ult but you rape them and deal heavy damage. Instakills Rem)
da baxta society has yo numbah
>>561308085naked mermaid with human legs covered by scales
>>561308085sexy quadruped animal character preferably a canine
>queue for match>get prompt for how fun it is to fight victor, press to queue 1>game instantly fills and doesn't let me finish my voteYOSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>561308085Barbershop quartet hydra that require different abilities combos. Like invoker but musical.
>>561308085Skeleton cab driverSupport hero that breaks your kneecaps, uses a tommy gun, and his ult calls a cab to teleport your team across the mapHis wish is to finally die and be free from his shit job
>>561308085Hoodwink from dota
>>561307174yes max claw after two points in flask. after your 4.8ks echo shard is almost always the best purchase unless you're only splitpushing
>>561308085Ixian incubus that wants the semen of the entire male cast
>queue>get champ I wanted>1 player fails to connect>get thrown back into queue>get autofilled
Mirage feels so good right now.Feels like I can actually brawl now with the scarab changes.
>>561307486her wall was fine and her gun was her only consistent way to deal damage.new turrets have way less hp, they're shit. turret build is just as dead as ever.
playing victor is really making me want to kill myself what have they done
>>561308085Nun who is a werewolfDefensive supportHer ult builds up bloodlust when she hits, is hit or provides heals/shields, and when full forces her into an aggressive bloodmage lycan form
>>561305021ivychads truly are the strongest race in the world
>>561308589Do you have a build you recommend? I've had some good games on warden but haven't found a build I really click with. Also idk whether to go for 4.8k spirit or gun first, but I'm leaning spirit
Just had a game where my teammate was really mean to me for no reason except I picked bebop and died 3 times in lane and it made me pretty sad
Playing aggressive and not caring about KDA has made a lot of my games more successful but the lows are so much lower when you get teammates that are afraid to do anything
> I'm finally free from Victor and Viscous> But now, Yoshi decided I have to suffer Mirage and GeistIs it too much to ask for a patch without broken heroes that everyone will abuse for a week or two before the inevitable nerf?I'm glad that some low-pick characters get some time in the spotlight, but this community is so fucking full of metafags that everyone switches to the broken heroes of the patch without a single drop of shame.
>>561309371Maybe there's a way to play aggressive and not die. I wish some of the shitter Abrams would understand that and not raging the fuck out I'm not under enemy tower with them.
>>561309392not to mention that most of the time it's the same few braindead m1 heroes or ultbots dominating the meta.like how often is warden not relevant?he's basically always been good. same with seven, wraith, infernus.sure sometimes they're bad but 90% of the time they're a top pick.nobody ever complains about having a dynamo on their team.now we have all these DLC heroes that never stop being broken.and on the other end it's basically always the same heroes that are shit. how long did it take for us to get a patch where mcginnis was relevant?now mirage is finally good after how long?and they will nerf mirage just like they did with mcginnis and he'll be irrelevant again for another eternity.
best methods to make the enemies end sooner if i know we're going to lose? can I damage my own minions or anything?
sex with silver
vyper goes from being worthless to absolutely shitting out damage and i have zero idea why
what the fuck are you even supposed to do about mirage in lane??? you literally cannot have him in your fov at any point the entire time or you just die
>>561309794depends on hero but easiest is to just abandon
>>561309851Unironically wait for nerfs, it's beyond ridiculous
>>561309794int over and over to give them money.try to die to their carry so they become uncounterable
>>561309794just keep running it down and dying but make it look like you're just playing bad so you dont get reported
>>561303217>Lash - THE LASH MUST HAVE IBS, BECAUSE HE'S EITHER SHITTING ON THE ENEMY OR GETTING SHIT ONKek also the warden one is really spot on
>>561309179I do spirit and egg first only because I'm comfortable behind weak early game. Fortitude is really strong right now also and worth buying early.
Man I'm really feeling the range reduction on Doorman, holy shit.Also did his bell range get reduced or something? Feels a lot harder to hit Vindicta or Mina in the air now
>>561309950this game is actually so dogshit, there's always something game ruining you need to "wait for nerfs" for why dont they just not add these absurd overpowered things into the game in the first place
>>561309179nta, but I like maxing cage first (no investment on other skills in between), buying Slowing Hex, increasing the cage's duration and range, getting 4.8k on guns and grabbing Veil Walker to run around the map pissing the enemy off by constantly ganking them or dealing some damage just to run away at light speed. From there you can just pivot into the usual Gun Warden, or continue buying utility and Echo Shard to annoy the hell out of the enemy
>>561308596That's apollo already!
>>561309794>manage to do well in an absolutely ball torturing lane against apollo and vindicta as warden and infernus>ganked by mid laner>ganked by bottom laners>look how my team is doing>0/3/0>0/5/1 on haze>0/7/0 doorman>infernus disconnects but comes back>say "just let them push">team says gg as if they agreed>keep clearing waves anyway>play for 20 more minutes until they finally mid boss and end out sufferingI don't know, go farm camps or straight up afk
>>561310081Warden probably makes better use of perma buffs than any other hero, so while egg might not be ideal its certainly not wasted on him.
>>561309851but they nerfed mark tho lol
>>561310147It's a small indie company bro... please have mercy on the cartoon dinosaur larper and its team.
when do i sell egg
>>56131039130 minutes, around 3k or 3150 souls.pussy otherwise
>>561307332yeah i do this sometimes to bait out parries, it's hilarious to smack them with a couple freebiesi need to get better at using lights instead of heavies
>>56131039110 mins I believe.
>>561308556Alright this ones kinda a damn good one ngl, I know he wont see it but somehow I hope he does
>>561308297>Kinda like Deckard Cain.I wonder why this stereotype hasn't been used yethttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga
>>561308085one burqa hero please
>>561308085Gimme some generic squidman/fishman Lovecraftian bullshit please and thank you!
literally, LITERALLY all unwinnable
>>561310708that's an assassin cowl, not a burka thougheverbeit
Well, /dlg/????People play this game for FUN. They do NOT play for VERBAL ABUSE!!! So, do you promise to stop?
>HE'S ONE BRO>Venator was not in fact one and obliterates me
>>561308556Based
>>561310837>chasing a benatoralways a recipe for getting dunked on
>be doorman>abram starts feeding so hard you'd think he's throwing>just know at the beginning of the round that the next 30 minutes are going to be utterly pointless because of this abrams>me, a doorman, am forced to carry my fucking team because of this shitty abrams constantly over-extending and thinking he's some invulnerable tank that can solo the entire enemy team>check abram stats at the end of the round>1/14Valve. Surrender feature. So I can move onto another match that doesn't absolutely waste my fucking time. God.
>>561310809>NOOO, THIS BAD WORD WAS TARGETED AT MY TOTALLY WELL HIDDEN SEXUAL FETISH>STOP DEADNAMING MEEEE
>>561310837to be fair venator can rape you instantly at any hp
>>561308085Fat Leprechaun businessman: his Ult is that he can buy items without being in the shop, with extra points giving you (small) discounts.
>>561310081do you play just applying debuffs to anyone you see or do you still try to carry? I go normal gun build other than mystic expansion and mm and I still feel like I don't do that much damage unless I'm headshotting them after they're rooted with vamp burst active for more DPS
When is Graves getting nuked out of the game.
>>561311039Are you fustrated?
>>561310937>running away from a lost team fight >run into a building >see the yamato grapple tether on me
>>561307825I mean the idea is clearly that you're supposed to win early before you fall off
>>561311135Absolutely.
>>561310147usually they push dogshit patches onto the secret test branch first but their isn't one going on right now so we have to suffer.
>falling offshit concepta hero is supposed to PLATEAU, not just dip out of the game like a discarded condom
>>561311039Graves should get out of the game to become my stay at home wife
>>561311258If other heroes continue growing then there's hardly a difference as time goes on
>>561311039Outside of her release, I haven't had a single match where Graves was the biggest problem in the enemy team.I don't know how you can be frustrated with her: she is slow as hell, has to be almost next to you to damage you, you can literally jump over her stun line and her invocation takes just a couple of hits (if that) to take care of...And don't say that it's a pisslow problem: I live there, she is average at best.
>>561310837>HE'S ONE BROWhere the fuck did this zoomerspeak originate from? Low, tagged, sure, but one?
My movement sucks and I feel like I meander between lanes a lot past early game, how do I stop being retarded
>ultra low graphics>basic textures>yellow outlines>4:3yup it's gaming time
>>561311135That's a horrible k/d, why is she smiling
>>561311183In theory, sure, but in practice games are consistently long enough that what you're really doing is hoping the late game heroes on your team follow through and win for you
>>561311513one health point remaining
>>561309950isn't valve supposed to be notorious for playtesting everything before releasing new things? I want to strangle the person that playtested mirage and thought "yep, all good."
>>561311509>Outside of her release, I haven't had a single match where Graves was the biggest problem in the enemy team.Anyone at high mmr agrees she is the best hero of the game right now.
>>561311513it's a standard "ONE HP ONE HP" callout
>>561301749Hi Rem
standard should be 40 minutes maxbrawl should be 20 minutes maxno one likes a match that drags for 71 minutes or a round that reaches 15
>>561311595You mean hit point
>>561311663Nigga we are in a playtest right now
>>561311679what happends at 40 minutes when game ends??
>>561311663(You) are the playtester, anon.
Hello /dlg/, who do I play if I am a braindead shitter but still wants to contribute and not feed
>>561311663>isn't valve supposed to be notorious for playtesting everything before releasing new things?
>>561311730I'm really curious to know though WHO the fuck are these devs listening to when making playtest changes? Which reddit crowd are they fucking bowing to?
>>561311793graves unironically.
>>561311776losing patron shots himself in the head out of shame just beef up minions and increase death timers
>>561310961>Valve adds surrender feature>I go into your game>feed the enemy team like I'm a number 9 (large) and they're Big Smoke>you start surrender vote>I vote no>I graciously release you after 50 minutes when the enemy team gets bored of killing me and finishes the matchNothing personnel, leaver.
i love brawl but the balance is so fucking bad. FAGGOTS playing paige or graves every game. its so badFUCKing ruined. actually ruined
>>561312189There is a special place in Hell for people like you, and it's certainly not anything like Ixia.
>>561311673Then say that, not "he's one bro". He's one what, one bro? One brain cell? One his way to fuck your mother?
>>561310961My lane went 0-11 in our last match and we won. If your little fag feature existed then we never would've came back for the win. On top of that whenever someone gets tilted they'll start a surrender vote and if it gets declined they'll just afk in base. It's a bitch feature for bitches.
>>561301843Calm down Mina!
i can see why you guys call him gaytalon now, what a fucking annoying character
>>561311920I've actually already been doing this and split pushing to success but is there anyone else I can play in case I don't get her
>>561312440I'll find my prey...
>>561302725>>561301712Theres literally a silver thread in /v/>>>/v/735567650
>>561311513I heard it first in CS alongside dinked.
>>561311663The problem is: WE are the playtesters, they haven't released anything yet. By the time launch comes they will probably have sanded most of the edges off things but we are living the "toddler on an unsupervised tour of the pointy objects factory" phase right now.
The game was pretty close to fun and balanced before the march 6th update shat on everything
>>561312440luckily people have to actually play him and learn him before they can get very aggressive with him, which is why he just spams abilities until he falls off in most peoples hands.
I love having a Graves on my team as bebop. Hooking people into zombies and the wall is really good
time wife
>>561303217>SilverI feel like there's 2 types of Silver players and they both hate eachother.
>>561312695>2 types of Silver playersGay furries and trans furries
>>561312695type 1: silver that will absolutely dominate type 2: silver that feeds 0/5 in lane, and rarely is even able to transform into ult because they're so fucking trash
>>561312584true but they decided to include drastic changes that were revealed to them in dreams by DMT machine elves alongside the much needed bug fixes
>>561312768>Gay furriesThose are rem fags.
>>561312618>decide to play mo (first mistake)>ww have a wraith and haze so I'm going to go ult build so I can hold down people for my carries (second mistake)>enemy GT has over 400 spirit power and a 1k reactive barrierOh okay.
>>561311513I've known it's short for "He's one shot away from death"
I keep griefing on melee apollo but im determined to make it work
Silver is for straight White men.Keep seething, troons.
>>561312786In my experience Type 1 will say slurs in chat, Type 2 will try to ERP with the celeste on the other team who's clearly just playing the character because they like movement.
>there are 2 types of [insert hero]!>one absolutely rapes and dominates the team>the other gets shat on supah hard!! lmao!!!it's such an aimless criticism, like this applies to any hero you'd want it to
There are two wolves inside you
>>561313025One is a wolf inside you.
>match timer hits 30 minutes>one neutral golem creep spawns on every lane bridge>golem has to be captured the same as urn channel by standing near it>golem can be recaptured the same way as long as no enemy players/creeps are around>it's unkillable and cannot be cc'd>attacks enemy players within range only if at least one allied player is nearby, ignores them otherwise>for every minute past 30 it's stats and recapture channel time grow>will prioritize buildings over creeps and players if they're within rangeyoshi, hire me
>>561313025hngmh
>>561311541mine sucks too but i get by with sliding on downslopes and using the jump padscan't be bothered to do all the wall sliding corner hop stanky leg nonsense
>>561313079p.s. it's supposed to start walking down the lane towards the patron, if that wasn't obvious
>>561312536And that's an excellent thing
why do people assume rem is a male? could be a female
I miss all caps guy, I wonder when he's going to get unbanned.
>>561313292It's a dream creature, it has no sex.
>>561313292>Rem has found himself in the city that never sleepsat least read the lore blurbs, faggot
>>561313025hnnngggg yyess there are
How hard will the delusional discordtrannies seethe when Silver gets even more buffs (she will still be weak and need more)
>>561313364that'd be wrong, rem has sexwith me
>>561309796Holy fucking shit The size of that trail suggests dire things about the bush further south
>>561313079>>561313258decent idea, could look like that tower walker wip concept
>mina>deadlock's poster girl>THE finished design of deadcock>still has an untextured gun
nothing is more frustrating then laning with someone who has 90% of their hp when you're sitting at 10-20% and yet they stand even further behind the tower then youpush the fucking wave, take the heal kit so I can get back into the fucking game, soak up some of the fucking damage for me you're not going to lose it all in 1s>just go back to base and heal brothis is always the exact actosecond they actually decide to shoot minions so instead I just ditch the fucking lane to go run boxes and force them to trade from sheer lack of options from the enemy team
>>561313754somehow I always get those people in street brool
>>561313448I don't know, I try not to interact with delusional discordtrannies
>>561313652game still in playtesting
>>561313652>still has an untextured gunjust wait till you remember you are killing aliens with penises wiggling around in the jungle again
>>561313519>gifs you can hear
why would I ever buy spellbreaker over spirit resilience? isn't the overall spirit damage reduced by spirit resilience higher than that of spellbreaker?
sex with cadence
Silver seems deceptively hard as a non-Silver player. I see niggas doing a whole-ass fighting game combo just to kill one guy, and with nerfed wolf form you can't even unga bunga that as much as you used to. I want to try playing her but there's so many heroes that output the same amount of damage by just using one skill or shooting their gun a lot.
>>561313292Archmother refers to him with male pronouns
>>561313954>Silver>but there's so many heroes that output the same amount of damage by just using one skill or shooting their gun a lot.Just wait till you realize a majority of her damage comes from express shot and her 1
>>561313936spellbreaker is for people who can't counterspell high damage spirit attacks like pocket ult or lash ult
>>561311670>better than geist celeste ven mirage silver shiv mina p*cket kelvin billy ivy dynamo or vindickyShe's B tier at best
>>561313936spellbreaker prevents you from being exploded so you can trigger spirit resilience or frenzy
>>561314096it literally does nothing to pocket ult?
>>561313292he's just a kid, of course you can't physically tell him apart but everyone calls him he and he calls himself and nigfernus (hat) brothers. nonces need not reply.
I've played 3 games on victor now. I don't understand what you're supposed to be doing with this hero. his gun sucks ass, he obviously has this pain battery, self damage, healing boost synergy so I buy spirit and hp / regen items but the spirit damage does fuck all and you need to be too close to anyone to tickle them which causes you to melt because you hurt yourself way too much and the regen can't keep up, and on top of that your HP pool is actually tinyhow am I supposed to play this shit?
>>561313292just say you want to fuck him
>>561314402watch the heresy video, its old but some concepts still applyhe's kinda ass right now
they should disconnect the neanderthal feeding doorman so I can leave with no punishment already, retarded character has literally ONE single spell in lane why can't people just jump the faggotI'm going to have to start avoiding him so that my team can stop feeding for fucks sake
>>561314402>how am I supposed to play this shit?He keeps getting nerfed, but he just relies on pain battery healing.Right now you probably need torment pulse and scourge to actually acceptable damage with him though.
>>561310809just play one of the gay characters and people will think you are larping
>>561314402I think his gun is bretty good he just doesn't bring much of anything to the team. By the time you're exploding people with Pain Battery I think others fulfill the role of spirit nooker better.
>>561314402Wait until he's buffed back to being brainless easy again.
no commend back by any of their team... it was such a close game too.RAPED THESE SALTY FAGGOT NERD FUCKS
>>561314096can you parry Apollo ult?
>click upload matches on the stat site>it says successful, it grabbed 60 matches or whatever>updates, added 0 new matches>open game, click on matches and look at scoreboard>upload again>same thing, 0 new matches added to the pageok fuck it then jesus christ
>>561314674no gays in deadlock>>561314738>brool gloating
>>561314402You don't, he got giganerfed and they'll probably walk it back soon. Just don't bother until then.
>>561314815stop trying to make standard happen, it's not going to happen
>>561314821they'll probably just rework his kit like they did to mirage.who knows how he is going to function later
>>561314437i want to fuck him
>>561314402victor's 1 is charged up when he takes damage and heals him therefore you want to jump in with aura on, immediately use 1 when its up to heal and follow enemies around until they're deadnow for 2 you may want to use it as soon as its off cooldown, or to purge some undesired effects like paige/graves immobilization. personally i just spam it when its off cooldown and buy unstoppable finally you save infuser when you have max aura AND you're like 0.5 - 1k health (close to death). the healing boost it used to give you would heal you close to full and you can continue the fight. you can also use infuser to get a small burst of dps to finish off an enemy if there is no risk of dyingthat being said victor is shit now because of the nerfs so you probably should'nt play him
>>561314402the way he used to work was:>lose lane>sit in a side lane and afk farm until you have ult>throw yourself at an objective then run once you burn your ult>back to afk farming>rinse and repeat until you get infuser for lifesteal>now you can actually outheal the self damage you take while running at the enemy, so you can start actually fighting>buy EE then unstop and become server adminbut they nerfed the lifesteal so infuser isn't anywhere near as effective, meaning he never really gets that big powerspike so he just kinda sucks unless he gets fed
>>561314756Yes
say something nice about them
>>561314738>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>haze
>>561315083>immediately use 1what do you mean "use" 1? it's a passive is it not? it doesn't have a # key for being activated
>>561315217graves and mirage were down last patch, this kelvin is on top of being nearly +5% (and the highest winner) of last patch as wellthey straight up just buffed kelvins winrate by 8% in a week
>>5613150831 is his pain battery and its a usable projectile skill, not a passive. it's just charged up with victor taking damage rather than on a timer>>561315171victor doesn't really lose lane, he has enough regen and can trade damage well enough to clear the creeps and go run boxes/small camps. he doesn't have kill potential but he is also very hard to kill if he plays passively and safely
>>561315254>it's a passive is it not?No it's not lol Victor doesn't have any passive abilities
>>561315385so you basically have to rely on your team to carry you as VICTOR now? that's kind of sad...
>>561315405wait wtf does his ult do then? I've been playing him with 1 & 4 being passives in my mind since they don't have activation keys and the text implies they are automatic. how the fuck do you activate them?
>>561315478yeah that's probably why you were doing jack shit with him. 1 heals a shitton, its 15% health per enemy hero hit so you were probably missing out on a lot of healing.4 is passive though
>>5613154781 charges up as you take damage, and once it charges up you activate it like any normal 1 would activateit's like reverse wraith cardsalso his ult IS a passive and it triggers automatically when you die
Should I run cheat death with Victor? For the lols?
>>561315664>For the lols?you should be playing deadlock to have fun yes
>>561315254>>561315478>Behold, the victor downplayer in full display.This is the level of people playing this braindead nigger.
>>561315478Bro you might just be a bit retardedHis 1 charges with damage taken and he always starts the match with it ready and it shoots short range bolts in a fan pattern in front of youHis 4 is a passive that triggers upon death and ressurects him while damaging and stunning everyone around
>>561315440As he should be, he shouldn't both be an unkillable tank AND a hypercarry, and I say this as a Victor main>>5613154781 charges up when you take damage, when its fully charged if you shoot a player with it you get healedHis ult is a free revive if he dies with it up you can't manually activate it, don't join teamfights if you don't have it up. He's one of the best characters to get refresher on lategame>>561315664It's funny so you should do it >Rejuvenator>Cheat Death>Refresher>UltBecome unkillable
>get disconnected>black screen>can't rejoin>close game>open again>still can't joinwhat is up with that?
>>561316026>power outage happens>power comes back immediately>boot up game>matchmaking penalty
>oh you stepped within 20m of a wall, so i win this fightIf you play melee venator or abrams at all you're a fucking faggot bitch.
>>561316026Had this happen in a match where everyone froze and got confused in chat then we all disconnected and the game didn't exist anymore.I assume it's server fuckery.
>>561316124You're MY faggot bitch, actually. Next time don't look so rapeable next to a wall
>>561316124learn to parry fag
>>561316124Venator is melee Venator, some people just delay the blessed stakes a little longer
Do piercing rounds bypass iron skin??
>>561316291how the fuck do i PARRY when I'm STUNNED because there was a WALL in the same LANE as me
>>561316629counterspell?
phantom strike haze is quite good
>>561316997Now try phantom strike Infernus, teleporting into the face of a vindicta and exploding is so fun
>>561316124At least with abrams charge you can smoovement out of the way it early game but once he starts buying phantom strike and warp stone you are fucked. I just straight up hate vens gutshot that shit is impossible to miss.
>>561316591answer me pls, what am i supposed to do if they buy iron skin
>>561316997>phantom strike is quite goodits pretty good and has resulted in a lot of broken shit over a long time nowpeople just don't really like toying with actives like that though
>>561316812>counterspell gutshotyou think I'm fucking psychic or what
>>561317148shoot other target, or wait 6 seconds or whatever
What's the point of Victor now?He's either the world's worst carry or a tank that can't actually tank until late game...
>>561317574Still very good. You are using an updated build anon?
>>561317574get radiant regen and witchmail
>mina getting 4 invincible dashes late gameI apologise to all the ivyfags that i flamed all these years, literally just bypasses my fucking anvil and fucks off
>>561317683>normal
>>561317574>Victorsissies face 1% of Silver's hardship
Graves practically plays herself, what were they thinking.
>>561317798What rank are you, ill get a picture of that rank specifically
Graves and Apollo sitting in a tree
kelvin domes in low elo are truly the pinnacle of comedy
>>561317830>victorsissies!! NIGGER ALERT !!>!! NIGGER ALERT !!!! NIGGER ALERT !!>!! NIGGER ALERT !!!! NIGGER ALERT !!
>>561317878I don't really care honestly, don't worry about it
>>561308085clown-for-hire that turned crazy from lead-based face-paint and now mutters eldritch gibberish to a god that is made unclear whether or not it actually exists>functiontf2 spy but without the invis. Ritual dagger (not that one) causes heavy melee to do deal big damage when striking from behind (could be an active or passive who cares) Definitely parryable. Gun is one of those gag guns with a "BANG!" flag, animated with occult magic to act like a real gun. M2 fires the "BANG!" flag that can be used to trick enemies while disguised.ult would probably be something stupid like dota Techies' current iteration of Suicide Squad Attack...wait it's called Blast Off, now? LameHero would basically be used for CC and force attention in teamfights lest he deals massive damage by his threatened backstabs. Would probably rape lower-level lobbies. Fuck'em
>>561317950IN HERE, I AM KING
>>561317979kwab
Will this game ever be good?DOTA2 is now 13 years old. Did it ever get good?
>>561318016call em bogo the clown or something. actually is pretty good at being a funny clown, despite being very mentally deranged. whether or not that has anything to do with the powerful eldritch god inside his head influencing the minds of children to laugh with him is up for debate, however.
>>561316124reactive barrierdebuff reducer counterspell
>>561317851She's fun when you don't want to try hard, and inherently balanced by the fact she has to get close to the enemies to do anything while having zero escape options. My theory is that they want to test if they can make good autoaim heroes, and how they'll be perceived by players in preparation for the steam machine. It'd be stupid not to make their new, popular game compatible with their new, possibly popular console that a lot of people will play with a controller
>>561318016so moon knight, but with a clown aesthetic? I diggit.
>>561318207Right but she's unfun to play against and dumb the whole game down maybe valve should develop games for braindead niggers instead of mixing it all up
>>561317402...What?
Guide to rankposting in /dlg/:>If you disagree with me and you're higher rank, you're higher rank but you're just stupid so you're wrong anyway.>If you disagree with me and you're lower rank, well of course you disagree because you're BENEATH me and therefore stupid and wrongAnything I'm missing?
>>561308085hear me out. Storm Spirit + Windranger + Maeve + Zeri
>>561318303>you're higher rank but only because you're carried by an OP hero/incorrectly calibrated by the game's broken rank system
>>561318303Yeah thats my go to
>>561317574i'm doing a lot of experimenting and so far i've had success with colossus and healing tempo instead of range/warpstone.i am unsure if healing tempo is even that good and if warpstone would be better, but the constant movespeed is very good to just walk up to people during team fightspruple items are torment, radiant regen, rapid recharge, cdr, escalating exposuregreens that i always take are witchmail and metal skinvictor can tank a surprisingly amount of damage and with witchmail + t3 ult, the cooldown for it is pretty shortim a retarded oracle player tho. you are right that it gets online later on, but that's just how victor is and i will always try my best with him
>>5613080851:1 port of spiderman from marvel rivals with no changes at all
>play ivy and the entire enemy team builds spirit resist, 30%~50% average>play paige and get fucked by kelvin, steal 1 rejuv one time and 2 the second time but it doesn't matter cause i can't dish out damage or do shit when billy and bebop are running it downI'm gonna probably replace paige with kelvin
>>561318303>>561318398>Who cares about rank it's broken anyway>Alright you have higher rank and are objectively correct about this but guess what, it's an alpha, it doesn't even matter haha!
>>561318479fag
>>561318494>entire enemy team builds spirit resist, 30%~50% averageShould be the standard for every game in this sp0r0tnuker metaslop
>>561318367Seven already exists>>561308085Give every female hero a subtle bulge, never elaborate on it.
Is spirit shredder even effective in this meta? I usually go with tankbuster instead.
>>561318303>>561318398>>561318525>meta gaming bullshitCouldn't be me. I don't even know what my rank is, and I've never been happier
>>561318547Yeah well my rank probably raised a little because people didn't do that shit, it's fine if i had a team but sometimes I'm unironically expected to carry the most toxic russian and bri'ish retards who keep screaming in my ear even tho i have a positive k/d/a
should i gun pocket if i think i might need to carry?
>>561318598let me know when seven has at least one single dash ability and isn't evil
>>561318776if you want to have fun, for sure. IDK about carry tho
>>561308085slork except he is a muscled fishman with a pretty face like rikuo from darkstalkers and he can walk on ceilings and walls.also trapper
>retard silver player on team can't even do enough damage to transform for any teamfight, lowest damage in the lobby by farlike HOW do these absolute reatards get into alchemist
>>561318880Not his fault, Silver is just a weak hero
>>561318880us SeekerGAWDS have recently been lax in the gatekeeping I fear, and for that I apologize
>Laning is easy>Team fights are a chaotic messHow do you move in a team fight
>>561318783Seven isn't evil.
I don't mind the balance really but I'm getting real tired of the enemy team only playing the most obnoxious characters ever made always having one lane pushed with those retarded rem minions or buying infinite time with doorman while my team has gun hero 1 2 3 and drifter
>>561318973You MUST buy Warp Stone and Juggernaut
>>561318973it's your mistake for thinking team fights are not going to be chaotic.
>>561319031Draft sometime this decade, be patient
>>561318016>disguises with a minimapyou don't even need comms, he'll be triple fucked
>>561318525>>561318303At least you could pretend ranks meant something a year ago. Archon used to be hard to reach instead of being the new seeker is it now. I preferred it when nobody could rank up because at least during that era teams felt like they actually belonged in the rank your in instead of the match making hell we have now.
>Graves is balanced by her only doing damage at short range>95% of heroes only do damage short rangeWhat sort of logic is this
>>561319031>buying infinite time with doorman just silence wave or unstoppable and run him down, he's squishy as fuck
Instead of a surender button, I want this game to implement a post-match chat where I can call our 2/14 Infernus a useless baboon nigger for feeding and having sub 1k objective damage
>>561319382dude my team doesn't even speak my language
>>561319354you do realize you can just stun her or move closer to someone who can, right?
>other team gets the retarded mina for onceFeels good ngl
>>561319431They should add a least valuable player (LVP) award that the team votes for along with an option to attach a comment so you can give them feedback on how to improve
>>561319431>Instead of a surender buttonwe should have an objective that, unless controlled semi-constantly, will give one team a power spikedoubling urn souls would work as a start
>>561319485she bought counterspell tho
>>561319512full
>>561319485You can stun Graves with items or abilities? Wow...
>team full of retards>try to play normally>start dying because retards have zero map awareness>now I'm retarded for not playing like a retard
>>561319685You play with the team you have not the team you want. Assume everyone are retards until proven otherwise.
>>561319525>actually kino suggestionyou love to see it.
>>561319031drifter is a gun hero too
>>561319685the rage that fills you when you spend an entire minute fending off like 3 people at once, finally dying, and seeing half of your team walking around, not even dashing, just WALKING, and occasionally clicking something like a barely sentient animal is indescribable
pocket's q could be less gay and shit
>>561319685reactive play is important in shitter games because if you try be proactive nobody will back you up
>>561318973play brawl for a few days. it's HUGE
>Enemy has rejuv taken>All our lanes pushed back to our base>We're two dead>Entire opposing team is missing>Barely sentient creature (usually a Wraith/Infernus) on our team chasing after their rem who's in our jungleI wonder what happens next
>>561319826gun hero 1 2 3 and gun hero with no range
me ungateam bunga
item suggestion: death hammercost: 50000 soulsactive: instantly kill an enemy herocooldown: 180spassive: -75% damagethis item can not be sold
>>561320202honestly buff structure damage to minions and change their targeting AI, you push a wave to do mid boss and when you're leaving it's already stacked and taking your shrines and first stage patron without any turret killing any of themyou're being held hostage as a lane janny for half the game, keep player damage to and from structures the same, I just don't want any more rems using one singular fucker to take a base without being there at least
What is the purpose of warden's binding word if even 2 stam heroes like Graves can simply walk out of it (only slight exaggeration)
>Every zombie is now parriable, money from killing them scales with her spirit power>Hold m1 as Graves without enemies nearby damages yourself>Graves get stunned for ten seconds upon losing her ult and can be raped by anyone close to her
>>561320336i played a match with modded items, and it had something similarI think it was 80000 souls, and it worked like cultist sacrifice, but you could instantly kill heros instead of NPC's and get a bunch of money. It even worked on teamates.
I wonder if the finalized Sinclair will have unique visual effects for every ultimate in the game like Rubick's arcana does
how do you face this comp without getting aids?
>>561319525>feedback on how to improveI'd actually like that for legit 'hey you might want to wait on your team to initiate, you should consider buying X, he's really strong early game take advantage of that, ect.' kind of responses but you just know it'd boil down to 'kill yourself faggot tranny spic niggerfaggot cuck chud'
post cool guns you wish were in the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ivag9iEu_Hc
>>561320552if they dash towards you in lane or something you sometimes maybe get them, but it's better if you land ALCHEMICAL FLASK with mystic slow/ing hex beforehand
>>561320683Hope to God your Doorman can send one of them to gay baby jail for 50 years
>>561320683Unless you have Lash+Dynamo, a fed drifter, or a godlike Paige+Mirage, you aint making it out of this one.
>>561319354>>95% of heroes only do damage short rangeThat's a lie
seraphim wings actually just ruins brawl matches, unless i get them then its okay
>>561320645G-d I want to rape graves.
>>561320851>a fed drifterwe had the dwifta instead
>>561320737The only way to mitigate it somewhat would be making it a toggle so you can only give feedback if you accept it and you can also enable it so you accept comments only if you win. But in reality the abuse would be insane, though it would be a good way to catch extremely toxic players also lol.
>>561320645I would settle for: >when graves dies, her tombstone and all zombies immediately despawn
Whoever says Ivy is anything other than below D tier should kill themselves Holy shit she is fucking useless
>>561320948nah, in reality, you just want to feel strong because you've been weak enough to be abused yourself, and also weak enough to never recover from it. It's also likely that you've had little to none positive interactions with girls because you're either fat, socially inept, gay, or all of the above. If you need to hurt someone who is literally weaker than you in order to feel strong, guess what does that say about your own weakness?now go ahead and reply with your ad hominem or lame joke to prove everything I've said right
>>561321306SeekerGAWDS like us subscribe to our own tierlists
Thread needs more men in it.
>>561321306holy retard
>>561321406Calm down Paige!
>>561321406who would draw this?
>>561321306her gun is legitimately inexcusable, but her usefulness comes from making it harder for the enemies to fight your team or even move around the fight, so she's basically like a giant, constant debuff, she can also split push easily and then immediately join a fight as soon as someone tries to defend the lane. She's just not one of carries
>>561321313Mentally ill overreaction
>>561320645>Graves CC will now also catch her and her zombies>Zombies will start moving towards Graves if she camps the tombstone and rape her>As Graves scales the game will start giving quick time events to ensure that the player is still awake and not completely braindead, should they fail the game will start playing automatically as to not overwhelm xir>>561321313Rape is just pretty erotic it's actually mainly a female fantasy in that sense I'm very accommodating to the weaker sex.
>>561321313NTA but holy fucking projection, Jesus Christ
>>561319685>map awarenessdevils advocate but the map in this game kinda sucksyou can zipline from one lane to another in like 20-25 seconds and certain rotations can be done in 15-20 seconds on footso unless you're rawdogging the comms with calls for missing, keeping tabs on people is hit or missthere really ought to be CCTV security cameras or spectral eyes as wards or something
>>561321536proven right. Now grow up
>>561321306Every single ability of her toolkit is super useful the entire game
>>561319284it would probably be tied with his backstab skill and be more used for getting 1 second of confusion out of someone during teamfights
>>561321313It's not that serious lilbro
>>561318016I think a basekit veilwalker for him would be OK considering the minimap fucks him over. 6v6 isn't the best place for a spy, but with enough options maybe he could put in some work
>>561321540you know how most men are trash who only care about things that don't matter and can't see past that? well most women are also trash who only care about shallow things and make bad choices. Besides that, women are told to stay away from anything related to sex for their own safety, and their own biology makes them picky so that they'll avoid as much risk as possible when finding a mate, since men aren't forced to stick with them while they're pregnant. But human nature demands sexual interaction so they just fantasize about not being responsible for it. I don't support it, and it's also not an excuse for you or that other (probably obese) gay guy to fantasize about omitting rape.There are schizophrenic people having constant delusions, does that mean you should act like them? there might be people wanting to kill your family, does that make them right?
>>561321313she is bringing in a evil ass lich into being just because she gets bullied at school. she would probably end up going on a rampage at blackmore if the ritual is successful. she 100% deserves the rape, far more than any other character in this game.
>>561321993There are schizophrenic people having constant delusionsLike you?
>>561322069do you have literally anything to say?
Schizo hours I see
>>561321993>seeing what this dick can do doesn't matteri've heard enough RRRRAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH
>>561321993That's crazy.
>break one golden statue>get +6% (six percent) gun damagethis shit is busted now?
>>561322313>nowyou VILL run the boxes
>>561322032I think you're evil, that you have zero empathy, even less empathy than animals, probably socially inept, and most definitely out of shape. I have nothing to prove it but I feel like it's probably true given the circumstances, does that mean you should be decapitated?
>>561321313The Raped
>>561322351*stands up and claps* omg you just owned the libs so hard wow+1 internet argument wonthank you so much for your services world wide web warrior
>>561321313>>561321993I wrote all of this I just want to add that I got raped by Abrams in a back alley and this is why his wall charge should be removed
started playing recently, rem main using theta build, 70h in, initiate 3whats the point of doorman not placing his portals on horizontal surfaces?the whole thing about Portal was that you could launch yourself among other thingsa lot of interesting stuff is impossiblealso imagine making the soul urn an object you can grab, still deactivating abilities, would also be cool
Belly rubs
>>561322351raping a school caster in the making is a morally good act.
>>561322568He's the Doorman, not the Weird Portal In The Groundman
all it takes is 1 (one) post to send all the chuds pretending to be macho men into a desperate cognitive dissonance fit.
>>561308085Three creatures in a trench coat or the Mobsters from wacky races. Ultimate is all of them popping out with guns and spraying down a lane.
Some of you guys are alright. Don't come to blackmore academy tomorrow.
>>561322643counterpoint, cellar and basement latchdoors
It's genuinely not fair that this counts against my rank. And the best part is, I'm only Archon III, so I was one of the *lower* ranked players on my team
>>561322651I look like this.
>>561322671there's actually a few hero ideas like that on the forums
thoughts on theta rem build?its fairly easy to get cursed relic, divine barrier, heroic aura and either a debuff or counterit depends on your team not fumbling but the rape potential is insane
>>561322840Lol!
>mfw Mina looks like a generic white girl in fanarts instead of looking asian
>>561323079them whitoids be colonizing n shiet
>>561321313Chat gpt ass response
i keep losing with silver in brawl even though i have like 100% uptime on her ult...
>>561320552As someone who has only ever played Warden one time, It’s area denial. It forces them to retreat or take a lot of damage. You don’t open with it but rather punish someone diving in or make them run away. It’s t3 silences your target too so Lash and Apollo can’t 1234 away. So Mid/Late game they boost in you hit em with a t1+ flask then the hook is out. That’s 2 stamina gone and no abilities with a Warden ready to kick your teeth in if they try sticking around.
>>561323265people joke about silver's ult being a downgrade but that's legit true in the case of brawl
>>561321313a bit out of nowhere, but based and correct
>>561321536>>561321540>>561321581>>561321909>>561322069Diddy ahh bluds
>>561322651I look and act like this.
>>561323425Yes. And?
Who's the vore hero?
>enemy team had a 0-20 infernus and a 1-18 drifter
>>561323360i was called "ult to win character" even though i lost
>TRUST ME THE LONGER THIS GOES ON THE WORSE IT'S GOING TO GET FOR YOU>Falls off late gameMina....
>>561323663This anon mains Drifter
>>561323378glad there's some non-chud life on here
List of heroes I could rape (im 6'4")>Mina>Graves>Paige>Rem>Vindicta>Pocket>Apollo>Celeste>Holliday>Viscous
>>561304138>vexing bolt is his worst abilityYeah that feels about right
place your bets
>>561323837You ain't raping shit, I put Uranium in my pillow
>>561324169Paige is fucking retard proof cancer, going to Archmother. if she's not subnormal
>>561324169Archmother team
>>561321378>>561321449>>561321513>>561321659Kill yourselves Her 1 does no damage and people just WALK out of itHer 2 is useless M1 garbage with only one tether nowHer 3 heals for nothing now, especially since everyone buys anti heal and if you're close enough to hit an enemy with it you will immediately die afterHer ult does no damage, the silence is negligible, and not being able to use it after being hit by anything means it's worthless
>>561324169Paige wins if she has an iq thats only slightly below room temperature
>3 games in a row enemy are all s tier meta heroes while mine are all b's and c'sSure is cool how there is no draft so people aren't just playing the same 6 heroes. Would be awful if that happened.
>>561324252>>561324214>>561324212for some reason they all got legendaries and i didnt............................ (silver)
>>561308085Ghost of a famous old timey baseball player legend that can turn into smoke and travel in the vents.
>>561324252God I wish shuuko didn't have such shit fetishes.
>>561324259erm bro its an alpha you signed up to playtest when you installed xD
gunshit is going to kill this game
>multiple overlapping scourges all apply their damagelmao
List of characters I'd let rape me (im 5'9)>Viscous>Dynamo>Bebop>Lash>Drifter>Venator>Abrams>Infernus>Warden>MirageI rape the rest
>>561324350uh oh the 1234reigner is having a melty
mina haaaaaaaa
>>561324391forced meme
>>561324421Looks more like Graves desu
>>561324421>WhiteDon't care
>>561324286AT LEAST I GOT MINEhttps://streamable.com/m5tboq
>>561324448It's literally one faggot who got banned for spamming it so much, don't give him any attention.
>>561310961>MATCHMAKING IS SO BAD!>WE NEED A SURRENDER OPTIONHow bout just fix matchmaking you fucking spineless quitter.
>>561323697It's just annoying to deal with, it's really not fun to have her pop ult and heal and gain resistances and is more annoying in brawl where you're not guaranteed counter items.
>>561301592so how exactly is silver broken againbeen playing her on and off for a bit and her early is fucking dogshit, you can properly combo with her because you often require the two combos in her kit to kill someone (since both her guns are dogshit), her mobility is mediocre at the very best, the wolf seems strong in theory until you realize it has zero fucking range AND her m1 is garbage AND you're the size of a truck so you're gonna hit with everything under the sun, and to top it all off her lategame gets completely shit on by any other half decent carry in the game, pray to god if you EVER fall behindseriously what am i not seeing here? have the amazing minds at nightshift explained their reasoning behind her status?
>>561324216Ivy feels bad in streetbrawl but if you play her like a splitpusher in standard mode, and then use your ult to escape straight into ganking a teamfight, her full combo is strong enough to take about half of an enemy's hp down, when combined with a punch, and it's all AOE. Then your team can hopefully show up and finish the enemies off with one single skill while they're slowed,My only problem with her is how long it takes to go online because you need like 5 or 6 different spirit items to enable this.Just don't die early game, use your 1 to farm, push lanes, and look for opportunities to gank with your ult (you have to use pings or comms), she's not a carry hero, she's a macro hero.
>>561324628forgot pic, yes i'm dogshit, yes i dropped from as 1 to phantom 6 because i keep playing this stupid fucking dog
>>561310961>surrender button gets added>retards beg to surrender if they lose their lane
only honest characters in the game>graves>paige>dynamo>mo
>>561324673>My only problem with her is how long it takes to go online because you need like 5 or 6 different spirit items to enable this.Buy the egg
>>561324774as opposed to now where they just stay afk in base or soft throw? get real nigga i'd rather not lose my time
why does vindicts fly around at the speed of poop while apollo is allowed to fly around at mach 10
>>561325091They have almost diametrically opposite roles in a fight.
What's with all the "I know what you did" lines?
>>561325183yeah one is the victim and the other is the rapist
>>561325074you open deadlock to win time? and if not, what exactly do you gain from winning matches that actually maters in any real way? (your ego doesn't matter)
>>561325327Generic line for killing someone who just killed you is usually something like "I haven't forgotten what you did".
>>561325327Shiv was a murderniggarapist but found God but everyone still remembers him being a murderniggarapist and are keen to remind him that they'll never forget
>>561325327they are played when you kill someone who killed you before
>Give crybabies the surrender button surely they won't piss themselves louder
Are we gonna stop downplaying viscous and the sand nigger now?
Newbie here, is there bonus damage for scoring headshots? Or should I just be aiming to get easier bodyshots instead?
>>561325545Your f key bro?
>>561325545Mirage nuked me for 400 damage in lane phase but still feels mediocre after it's over.>>561325572You can test this in-game under 2 seconds mouthbreather kun
>>561324737Your commitment to that stupid fucking dog is commendable, god bless you anon
surrender button but if you vote yes you get put into low prio queue for 10 wins
Good god kelvin and venator are fucking cancer
>>561325743>Fragile ego queueImagine the mental illness, I'd pay to watch it though it would all be 5 minute matches.
>>561325673yea if anything mirage was made to be an actual threat now, everyone just ignored his stacks before cuz they tickled you is all now everyones like >woooow i let murage stack me and i lost wtf how did i die
>abrams slaps you with some gay little book>700 melee damage>bebops smacks your head in with a giant fucking metal spike ball>100 melee damage
Mirage with extra charge, boundless and echo shard on shartnado, then ricoshit and rest greens. You will be the jihadist sand nigger in every single team fight even if you only shoot every once in a while like these downplayers complain. Before when he was a giganigger you barely had to aim short of hitting the stray bullet here and there, now you can be a unkillable literal sand nigger.
>>561322313Only late game, and sometimes you get irrelevant shit like 2% ammo
>>561322840Ivy canonically beat vyper and raped her boss.pump up ivy, billy, silver, and celeste pump down kelvin rem and sinclair
>rank barely moving>games mostly decided by who gets the most retards that feed early>don't wanna throw by playing meme builds>roster is the only 4 characters i likegetting kinda bored
>It's bad to have a surrender function because 1 in my 100 games i survive the ball grinder dogshit matchmaking and we actually win>g-g-go back to league!
>>561324628>so how exactly is silver broken againInsane gun dmg into ---> Insane wolf damage, ideally she should rape people especially early game, also Insane fucking sustain with a few items >seriously what am i not seeing here?Her gun, mobility and the Insane slow rape she has on her 2 or 3 ability, it's basically a weaker "LIFTING" wraith ult
>>561326367This, but unironicallyFuck off leaguebabby, real competition is clearly not for you
>>561325673Or I can ask here you pretentious little faggot, and maybe a helpful, knowledgeable anon can helpYou are neither of those things, clearly
>Admitting you're a leaguenigger wanting a surrender buttonRefugees making their new residence the same garbage as their old shithole
>>561324628Silver is a monumental failure of hero design. Well, her ult for at least. In a werewolf form, she's the only hero restricted to melee range in the game of guns and ranged abilities. Which already gimps her hard even without the nerfs she faced.The latest "buffs" are just reverting her previous nerfs.The devs clearly have no fucking idea how to make her ult viable
If Yamato's grapple is gonna follow you around seven corners, through your screen and into your actual house, they should at least make it a skill shot
It's bad to have a surrender function because 1 in my 100 games i survive the ball grinder dogshit matchmaking and we actually winNo arrow because I say this, anyways go back to league!
>>561326485The humble concession is lost on the /dlg/tard
Revert her nerfs Yoshi you dumbass
So tired of m1 ruining the game.
>>561326491Spoonfeeding retards is bad practice, you could even google the question and get an answer under 2 seconds damn fuckwit. What's your next query, stamina is also a mechanic in the game btw.
>>561326517>Silver is a monumental failureDon't call her that wtf... She's trying her hardest, you have no idea how hard it is to be a stupid dog in a world of mcginnises and sevens.......
>>561326537>they should at least make it a skill shotLmao, only graves gets shit on for point and click auto aim, everyone else gets a free pass including mo and krill
>>561326563isnt this jsut in eternus? for 99% of the playerbase shes at like 45 or lower
Reminder that if you are not play a "late game hero"(That is also for some reason strong early and mid game...) You are actively gimping yourself and your team. Almost every game as gone to late with very little exception.
>>561326586>Spoonfeeding retards is bad practiceKill yourself asocial sperg, he said he's new
>>561326485Is that why they let people gg out in Dota pro games, where millions used to be on the linethe real competition right? lol
>>56132656349.6% is fine thoughI want her nerfs reverted too but it's gonna have to come with damage reduction on slam fire, it's only proper
>>561326632The way building health and resistance work, the game is designed to go late. There's a reason sub-30 minute games are rare and sub-20 games are nonexistent. I'd love to play Apollo or Mina but I don't feel like handicapping myself for no reason
>Actually say nothing negative, no slurs, no trash talk>banned for coms
>>561324421>Not asian
>>561326660A pro can be trusted to know when it's truly over and comeback is impossibleYou cannot, you are a raging leaguebabbyDeal with it nerd
>>561326651There is new and then there is retarded, two different things. He could've asked if every defensive structure has a headshot hitbox but such a baseline question is inane.
>>561326720>I'd love to play Apollo or Mina but I don't feel like handicapping myself for no reasonYou can snowball with them and win
>>561326776No, you can create space for your late game heroes to snowball and win for you. If you don't have any of those, you're screwed. Or you can just play a late game hero and have agency.
>>561326747>glue sniffer a and b are outweighing the single glue sniffer on the enemy team>you are also down 30k souls>bro just get the urn and sneak a midboss THIS game's the game to prove myself rightthis game is nothing like dota past the item shop and it's about time icefrog stopped pretending like it contributed to good game quality
>>561326776Not with this matchmaking where the other lanes will also feed the enemy and then it's back to a stalemate that leads to late game anyway.
>graves gun dps still shitShan't play. Simple as.
>>561326723You were banned for being a pussy. Wouldn't have happened if you said more slurs.
>>561326836Sorry, everything I said still applies.You wanna surrender, you go play the babby surrender game. Go on, back to league, leaguebabby!
I'm new do different heroes have different hp, I'm too stupid to look it up. Please waste your time reading or responding to this.
>>561320552it's very unreliable and requires you to build into it for it to be effective when other heroes can just skill shot their rootsin lane you have to track enemy stamina in your head then flask + cage someone when they're at 1 or combo into it with your lane partner's cc outside of lane you pretty much have to build some combination of slowing bullets, point blank, mystic expansion, slowing hex, or knockdown for the cage to hit and at that point you can just walk up to them and get a fuck ton of gun damage from headshotsonce you get the tier 3 upgrade the silence helps a lot, since characters can't use their movement abilities to get out for free. plus a silence on a 16s cd is very useful even if you don't get the immobilize >>561323319>It’s area denial. It forces them to retreat or take a lot of damagean ability that has a tangential purpose because it's intended purpose barely works is not a functioning ability. seven's point and click stun can serve the same purpose and the stun is guaranteed
>Silver disarms you if you get hit when shes in wolf formWhy the fuck do they think this is ok
>>561326987Yes they do.
>>561326951mm noluckily executing games is quite easy so long as you don't type too much :^)
>>561327042Which ones
>>561326987no, they don't, that would be unbalanced
>>561327058Not my problem. You won't be in my rank, and statistically you're probably not even in the same gateway as me.Keep squealing however much you deem appropriate, leaguebab, and continue to rant and rage and oversimplify and prove yourself to be exactly the demon in (brown) human skin I marked you as from the off.It's just sad there's so many of you, so rigid rules are required to keep you from making a menace of yourself as much as possible...>>561327068Literally all of them
>>561326832>NoObjectively false, if you get ahead and steamroll gaping the enemy especially with the braindead ult you should be able to get 5 or so kills, from there get more kills and at 10 kills you should have a soul lead of 10K or so by midgame which should allow you to push the advantage and win, in that scenario all you have to do is prevent a comeback >>561326838Fair although my team was the one feeding apollo one of those times which sucked
>>561327039She disarms you with her third ability in wolf form. Not just from hitting you.
>>561327170Thats stupid. Let me continue raping her.
Spirit resilience seems like it's a must buy every game these days. When are we nerfing spirit scaling?
BUFF SILVERBUFF MINABUFF GRAVESNUFF SAID
>>561327165>in that scenario all you have to do is prevent a comebackwhich you have no agency to do because by then your hero is falling off and the enemy heroes are coming online
>>561326842>need gun items to deal real dmg>need mobility items to chase and hit enemies without them literally just walking away>the m/s items prevent her from buying gun so either you chase enemies and deal no dmg or deal alot of dmg while they run away cucking u from the killAnd yet people still complain about my wife
>>561327152Yeah because in your rank the games simply end in ~20 minutes like they're supposed to when they're stomps. And I'm sure the comebacks happen all the time too, right? But you'd know this already, what am I telling you for? Unless...You're a genius, really. The urn is worth jackshit in a vacuum even still...? Nah.....
>>561327284None of that's my problem still, sorry.Seethe impotently a bit more, leaguebab!
>>561326987Yes they do, in the hideout when picking a hero you can see 3 things on the right, they tell you the hero stats check them in the hero select screen when you have time>>561327039She alos applies a huge slow and has a huge dash>whybecause FUCK. YOU. :)
>paige is now c tierBuffs when?
>>561327257If you can't bitch the enemy team with an individual 10k soul difference then it's unironically over for you, that's basically two~ish tier 4 items
>>561327384Hopefully never, she's boring to play with and against
whats the plan?
>everyone on the enemy team is clearly better than I am, obviously several ranks higher>slowly realize everyone on my team is somehow clearly worse than I am, obviously several ranks lowerkill me, pete
>>561326987https://deadlock.wiki/Health
>>561327463M1gger seethe kek.
>>561327380>because FUCK. YOU. :)Actually it's because she's a character who already has to stay in melee range for an extended period of time to do damage, so it only makes sense for her to have some (largely ineffectual) lockdown and some defensive cc (also largely ineffectual)
why do people just feed 0 /15 like what is going on in their brainwhy do they make no attempt to change their behaviorare these just bots so matchmaking doesnt take 20+ minutes?
>>561327525Wow there is an entire Wikipedia for this game? Why was I asking all this basic shit, my bad. Someone should really put that in the OP haha.
Mods we NEED in deadlock>A mod that turns creeps into the dota 2 ones>a skin for rem that makes him a shortstack female goblinthats all
>>561327615dw bro it's still winnable
>>561327327It is your problem because you also queue into it. And usually do on average.Who is brown again? Ask one of your fifteen brothers in the favela you live in. Maybe they know. What's sort of pathetic is that I wouldn't even be upset if you agreed with me but still opted to play the games out for it simply just being fun to run around and kill shit in regardless of how hard you're getting raped, etc. It's an alpha after all who gives a fuck but denying blunt reality is truly some cope shit. And the funniest part is I don't even play League nearly as much as I did Dota because it simply wasn't deep enough. If you're higher rank than me, what's the negative of putting in a surrender exactly? I don't even deny I'm in a shithole where this stuff happens and honestly it wouldn't surprise me if it happens occasionally at higher ranks too. People still run it down, you will still get midboss and rejuv and your 1-8 Apollo/Yamato will be 1v1ing a person they can't kill under t3 walkers for no reason clearly soft inting because they don't care. You'll get subhuman apes that are basically just mute and go 0-7 out of lane 5 minutes because they can't hug walker. Assuming you aren't larping of course, I want to know what your actual logic is from a massive deficit in Deadlock compared to the fifty thousand things you could do in Dota to outplay people who were clearly worse. Go on. Ball is in your court. If you reply to my post with a 1-3 sentences I've basically already won
>>561327615Had a drifter yell out in vc he was sorry and going to kill himself after going 0/10 minute fifteen so sometimes they repent
what fucking uncultured retard zoomer thinks ancient vampire aristocracy in NY would be asian? literal retard
>>561327601>Actually it's because she's a character who already has to stay in melee range for an extended periodblah blah blahAs i said, FUCK. YOU. :)>largely ineffectualNot really desu
>>561327765what would you put in its place, and why?
>>561327714nta but all that text screams the raped
>>561303217>Vyper>You probably have carpel tunnel from shift, space and ctrl thoughNot 100% of the way there but I'm starting to feel the cramps kick in as I enter the twilight of my 20s
>>561327714Sorry, I'm afraid you'll have to go back to the crying babby surrender game if you want to surrender.Not my problem. Bye!
>>561327714Ba->It's an alpha after allNvm kys
>there are still people who struggle playing against SilverGenuinely how
>>561327714>Having a genuine conversation on this siteWaste of time most of the time desu, i don't even know what u 2 retards are talking about and i don't care but you're wasting your time, i had the misfortune of talking to a silverfag and correcting his build once and literally all of it went through one ear and out the other
Paradox's hourglass figure
Look at all that juicy bait!
>there are still people who struggle playing as SilverGenuinely how
The amount of people who can't counter buy or adapt in this game is insane.>Annoying non-stun CC and Debuffs ruining your gameDispell magic, Divine Barrier>Literally everyoneSilencing wave>M1 niggersMetal skin and bullet resistance items>BUT MS SUCKS!!!!Then plated armor if you don't like actives. You big baby. >Spirit niggersCounterspell (get gud), spirit resistance items, spellbreaker.>Tanky heally niggersHealbane, Cripple headshot, Toxic bullets, Decay, Spirit Burn.>Flying niggersKnockdown, phantom strike>BUT WHAT IF I'M 30K SOULS DOWN AND-You just suck.
>>561328030>Genuinely howaimlets, buildlets, and/or playing against people above seeker where people actually buy and use cc on her
>>561327956It's not going to change my mindset because frankly I just think it's funnyIt's ironic that people value their time so little that will stick to this antiquated mindset like they're even remotely the same games. It made sense to not exist in Dota. It simply doesn't in Deadlock. There's no contribution to better game quality. I think it's a net loss in your own personal satisfaction knowing something is doomed versus there being a chance for a comeback. It's that balance that justifies it. Sometimes I come here to see someone actually engage and prove me wrong but it's just shitposting for the most part so it can't be taken seriously. And it feeds my ego too because I know they're larping when they reply to me because they can't engage past the surface>faggots
>>561328130It makes the same sense, sorry.It stops leaguebabs like you from chucking a tanty and enforcing your will on the game because you've decided it's over and want your team to agree.Keep squealing.
>silver upplayers are actually a real thing and not a boogeymanLmao, what a sight to see
>>561327714Surrendering in videogames is the equivalent of not returning the shopping trolley at the super market. Losing a game is just as much a waste of time as winning one. You can't handle losing then don't play. You cannot be trusted with a surrender button, and your walls of text do nothing to change it
>>561327212...You want to rape this?
>>561327960Really hope they mostly keep Paradox the same if they do update her model, the current one feels very placeholder-ish especially the gun. Hopefully it's just a case of them improving the existing design rather than replacing it
>>561328057It was so much easier to do when we had 14 slots
>>561328130>Sometimes I come here to see someone actually engage and prove me wrong but it's just shitposting for the most part so it can't be taken seriously.Yeah it's fun when there's genuine discussion >And it feeds my ego too because I know they're larping when they reply to me because they can't engage past the surfaceFair, but personally i refrain from engaging with the average retard here 80% of the time since it's just meaningless shit flinging
>>561328209I love it when they get ult thinking they have a chance now only to die seconds later
>>561327525>Silver has slightly more HP than Vindicta>People have an audacity to call her a tankAlso why the fuck doesn't she get more max HP in a wolf form?
>>561327541I only play spirit characters. M1s love paige because her shields buffs them.
This game is so funny>woah if you lasso jump pad someone and then when you land you hit a barrel to nuke their hp dood so skillfully learn this combomeanwhile>lol just press one button on this one hero to nuke their entire hp pool no thought required like why is that even a thing? why do you need to do these elaborate combos like wall bomb echo shard swap to do what someone like old victor did by just fucking walking forward? its retarded
>>561328209mmmmm cookie
Why the fuck does every vindicta use flight against me the moment they see me when I'm playing lash. You're LITERALLY giving me a free optimal ground strike with phantom strike.
djinn's mark should highlight part of your health bar pink so you can see how much health you're going to lose
>>561328434I accept your concession.
>>561328193This is all said within a context of Deadlock being a game where it is volatile enough that a comeback can happen in a vast majority of skill brackets within >20k souls. But it's almost never the case, hence why I cited it being an alpha in the first place. Because the game mechanics themselves will probably get changed in some way. I remember there was some mechanic way back that was datamined that I think they were testing where a losing team's jungle camps would be weaker or some shit when they were behind enough. It's almost as if the devs working on the game feel the same way. But as the game is right now, I've never seen big comebacks in these Night Shift games, never when I watch these streamers for 30 minutes when I'm bored as fuck where they play at high Eternus, it's all the same shitIs it wrong to have a surrender feature, if it's used properly? How is your european subhuman teammate mentally checking out and giving up whenever the surrender is accessible any different from them soft inting or simply just afking in this hypothetical where it exists? Maybe it's simply an issue of the game itself rather than a feature existing at all
why does brawl keep giving my opponents legendaries but not me? is there some trick to it?
do foids really post here?
>>561328540every team gets the same number of legendaries, your teammates just chose not to take them when they showed up
>>561328602yeah
>>561327541NTA but she's a dull shit eating faggot no matter what you're building and if her player base was even half a smart as any other fucking support in game she'd never lose
>>561328520>Is it wrong to have a surrender feature, if it's used properly? Of course not, but you're arguing from a fallacious position. It won't be used properly because it will be being given to emotional raging shitters. You need look no further than this very thread (your own posts, graveschizo, et al) to see why that's a bad idea.Surrender is a terrible idea. Keep squealing about it.
The only valid valve game rankings>Valve classicsHalf lifeCSLeft 4 deadTf2>Pretty good gamesPortalDoD>Forgotten/DeadRicochet Artifact >Third world slopfestDeadlockDota
>>561328193Surrendering in mobas is like being a boxer but only fighting if you knock out the opponent in your first punch. Otherwise no way my feelings could get hurt!If you can't at least get the gist of the lack of sportsmanship involved in this you're just too much of a sophistic wimpy faggot. We go in the ring, we fight until a patron blows up whether it's you or I that cuck out in the fountain or try to turn the tables. Don't advocate the cowards way out and wall of text it into something else that it isn't.
>>561328520Just stop playing the game you bitch. You've probably wasted more time crying about wanting a surrender button here than you could have saved by surrendering games of deadlock you signed up to play.Even the fucking "pros" can't read a the gamestate flawlessly at this point. Giving every fucking retard valves permission to give up before the laning stage ends will make the game vastly worse.You should just stop playing any team games at all really, you clearly do not have the mindset for them. You are a selfish spineless prick who insists everybody should lick your shitty asshole so you don't have to wipe it yourself.Just fuck off back to league
>>561328441>why do you need to do these elaborate combos like wall bomb echo shard swap to do what someone like old victor did by just fucking walking forward?Different eras desu, mind u holiday's dmg isn't even fucking worth it for how hard you have to sweat as her, she's fun tho, if only u could play her without getting raped by an army of braindead heros like dynamo wraith venator etc etc
>wanting to give a surrender feature in a game infested with russians and brazilliansyou people are fucking mad
>>561328709And I'm saying emotional raging shitters already make this the case. I'm sure as shit not going to use any other anon here as an example because I have no idea who the fuck they are nor do I care>>561328737Faggot reply from a faggot posterJust take the cock in your ass as you clearly like it. Being whipped by 2 cuck zoomers that clearly don't give a fuck about your 30 minutes is the pinnacle of pathetic. The brutal irony is the people that are running it down on your team are the ones not treating it like a team game at all. Sorry, I can't be humble and accept I'm being raped by better players I will continue to limit test against people 5k ahead of me as if they will slip up. When backed into the corner, he kvetches! Look at him say his favorite catch phrase!
>>561328520we won this game btw comebacks can and do happen if you cant handle a potential 30 minute stomp dont play this game go play a fighting game or fucking overwatch or something and fuck off already
>>561328858Their way of surrendering is afk'ing on base or just soft inting >WHY NO FALLOW AP TIM FAHKING NOOBS
>>561328431>Also why the fuck doesn't she get more max HP in a wolf form?She does, do you people even play the fucking hero you cry about? >Ummm but the char-Read her ult.
>Destroying a base guardian permanently applies this 80% boost to its corresponding Zipline, turning it into an 'Express Line'.woww
>>561328915You ARE the emotional raging shitter, anon. Anyone advocating for a surrender vote is the last person who should have it.Your belief that the game is over is not reliable enough for you and your brownskin ilk to deserve it.Sorry, not sorry. Back to league.
>>561328969dont care deadlock is designed that you can win a 5v6 even if they 'soft throw' they're wasting cooldowns/getting people off lane instead of the game just ending if you want to surrender click the disconnect button and eat your ban
>>561328737Exactly, I've had so many games where I got shit on in-lane but managed to crawl it back. Play from behind or don't play at all, surrender adds nothing to the game. Especially since the comeback mechanics are so forgivingLeague has surrenders and it has resulted in the most toxic playerbase possible who will throw tantrums because they died once. FF! ff 15! open mid because team won't ff!
>>561328969And that's thankfully reportable, not an ingrained part of the system
>>561328960post the final statsheet then
>Every game today my team has fed>I know I'm not a god either but were talking a haze going 1/6 before 10 minutes or Seven being down nearly 10k souls against his lane opponent What do I even do here?Just not play for a couple day and hope I get better matches soon? Even if I play a carry and scale my team will lose 3v1 to some retard backdooring while I try to push a walker.
>>561328915People running it down mid to feed can be reported for griefing the game, which will eventually end up in those players all being quarantined together in low priority with low behavior score.Surrender vote removes that option and tells these griefing fuckwads that they are justified in their petulant bitch behavior.GO BACK TO LEAGUE
>>561328520>I've never seen big comebacks in these Night Shift gamesComparing pro play to actual gameplay just completely invalidates your opinion and makes you look like a moron. A full team is playing a completely different game than 99.99% of the game in queue
>>561328602Who do you think keeps posting all the yumejoshi art?
I can't take Metro seriously at all.>"If i was gay I would be the bottom."Nigga.
>>561329113Games not open that was on Saturday not sure if the replay will go that far but I've got the end screen
>>561328602yeah it's awful
>>561329073Even if they got VAC banned it won't take back the time I wasted playing with those fuckers sadly
>>561328602Someone had a real melty about rape and dumped walls of texts so it's possible but more realistically it was a tranny projecting his sexual abuse as some sort of female intuition on the subject.
>>561328730>CS>Not in turd world slopfest
>>561328520lol faggot
>>561329012I think you're owed more gameplay. That's simply just the case. You don't get that kind of gameplay in rape stomps. Where I think your mindset is flawed is thinking these things are being said out of anger. I'm already attuned to how people play these games, I'm basically numb to it. So I'd rather respect the people that actually gave a fuck and give them five minutes of their time back that they wouldn't normally have had. >you're brown>go back to leaguedidn't deny that favela monkey allegation I see>>561329130It happened in Dota pro games just fine, Deadlock is just Dota, right? Why is it different in this case? Sorry, player skill must dictate whether you get the right to this arbitrary feature that won't ever exist in this game.
I will never be happy knowing that kelvin lost his disable
A surrender option has never been good for any fucking game I dont understand why these shitters have to ask for it every time it sucks in MR it sucks in every MOBA its in its NEVER good not ONCE but trust me THIS time it'll work :)
>>561329141>>561329238I get the rape part but the shipping shit kinda sells it to me. I bet the femanons here smell stinky
>>561329264>I think you're owed more gameplay.Then play and don't surrender.Simple as that.You're not owed wins.
>>561329296there's something about this image that makes it my favorite thing out of this shitholeI think it's the really shitty mspaint quality that gives it soul and always makes me laugh
>>561329296Kelvin dome should disable gun and ability usage for everybody inside of it, heavy melees ONLY
>>561329321Femanons of the thread (xx chromosomes) what heroes do you play and do they rape or get raped.
>>561329264>It happened in Dota pro games just fine, Deadlock is just Dota, right? Why is it different in this case?What the fuck are you smoking, retard? I'm not even going to try addressing whatever this is supposed to be.>Sorry, player skill must dictate whether you get the right to this arbitrary feature that won't ever exist in this game.Player skill isn't what I was talking about when saying pros are playing a different game, but congrats on the self-snitch. A team of 6 consistently playing together with practiced rotations and comms is fundamentally different on every level from your random initiate matches.
>ITT: lash, silver, ivy, drifter, and doorman live in the same house
>>561329401The one female (xx) I know that plays this game is a Mina onetrick with a 30% winrate on her
the wiki is so outdated is there another one? besides the .wiki one
Every time the surrender topic arrives it only confirms the stereotype of surrendermonkeys being the most dishonest, illusive and fragile people around. Maybe mobas just aren't the game for you man.
>>561329512Lash: Who didn't flush the toilet againDrifter: I'm the drifter I'm going to kill and rape all of you
>leaguebab claims to want to play more>advocates for the option that will make many, many games end before midgame even hitsThey lie.They argue from false positions, they try wicked sleights of hand, they act entitled and cry out in pain while stabbing you, they make assertions with confidence that simply cannot be relied upon, and whenever they can they just lie, lie, lie.Suffer not the leaguebab and his surrender fetish.
>>561329414Player skill is indeed a part of that formula yes>anon is a genius for stating what is already implicit
>>561329563It doesnt matter they can screech all they want surrender will never be added to this game no one wants it besides them so they'll either keep coping get banned or fuck off all good options desu
the game does have a forfeit function it's called the abandon buttonnow take your 12 hour ban like a real man and let your team all leave with no consequences
>>561329512>"Does anyone want some Gumbo? Just made it.">"Does it have human flesh in it?">"Oh doggy. Don't like the taste of human flesh in my gumbo.">"Oooh. Is that gumbo? The Lash loves a good gumbo.">"Drifter made it.">"The Lash has lost his appetite."
>>561329563There's MOBAs where surrender vote makes sense, because winning can take a while even from a position where a comeback is effectively impossible.However Deadlock is not that game, coming back is very possible in a lot of situations and more importantly winning is really really quick and easy. Structures are made of nothing and the patron is a bitch.
>>561329512>Ivy you can't just suck my cock and yell out rapid growth and stone form that's sexual harassment, rape, even.
>>561329810the bans mean nothingi just simply go play another game or go to sleeplow prio? you mean where all the faggots get to talk shit and say slurs? finally some real deadlock
>>561328516Cringe
>teammate goes 1-9 and commends me>i dont commend back>game 2 he's on the other team and i dunk on him>...he doesnt commend backhehhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>561329814>>561329512The Drifter being a very friendly housemate is a really funny concept ngl.
>>561329512>¡AY CARAMBA! Who shit in the sink?>Probably lil' pup over here. The Lash™ would never do something bebop would.
>>561329925drifter is a psycho murderer but thats just because he likes to do, if he likes you, he seems pretty chill
>haze sleeps me>winds up for an obvious heavy>my teammate never played the game before and didn't parry
>>561329810afking and soft inting has never lead to me getting punished so I will continue to do the same thing as the game allows me to
i dont know about ff but games need to go into overtime at like 30 and and at 35. or something like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysy2xLQeHtk
>>561330190or at a random time between 30-35 minutes (something like) a game winning urn spawns
>>561329512>Hey, bellboy. Mind getting me a door down to midtown hospital? The LASH™ needs to visit a very sick little boy who knows life's greatest joy is meeting me.>Oh Lash. I'm a Doorman, not a Taxi service.>Don't worry. The LASH™ always tips 40%.>Right this way my good sir.
Who would be the best hero at Self Sucking?
>>561330405Mina, she can just bite her arm
Is Silver good now?
>>561330406killyourselfNOW
>>561329512>LashHas a drivers license.>SilverSuspended due to too many DUIs>IvyStill in driving school>DrifterPrefers jogging. (Running down women at night.)>DoormanDoubles as a valet.
>>561330406>that entire small buff section????????????>haze and vindicta in balanced?????????????
>>561330459
>>561329512>the soul urn watches helplessly as a babble of idiots try to work together on how to cook a fucking soul egg
do we have a bunch of fanficGODS in here or what
>>561328520tl;dr but I like your cat pic :)
>>561330459She's good to me>>561330650You talking reading or writing?Because yes to both
>As a Graves main only buying passives left to right every game, whenever I run straight at Doorman and hold M1 he just carts me into his spawn>Clearly, Doorman needs a nerf and Graves needs a buffThese are the people running Deadlock balance now
>>561330459Still overpowered in the hands of anyone remotely competent, yeah.But if you're a silver "main" you won't be able to win with her anyway, for some reason she attracts the most utterly retarded players.
>>561330692do u have any to share
>>561330650FoidGODS own /dlg/
>>561330406>wanting kelvin nerfed when be was dogshit for so long
>>561329563unrelated to your post but I really like that goofy ass cat, his big ass nose gets a laugh out of me whenever I see him
>>561330650>drifter rape and ivy cocksucking
>>561330516>>haze and vindicta in balanced>?????????????Literally just buy iron skin and anvil and both are cucked, they're too one note
>>561330852>Need a lift?
>>561330863>knockdown*parries it*
>>561330405Mirage.
>>561330459Yeah>>561330812nta but here>>561330827He's what doorman was last patch, at least to me, spirit resist does jack shit and if he's around i can't move, dome is fine though imo
>>561329512>"Lilah Darling, Why is it that it's always my home and never yours?"...>Ivy: "DRIFTER Is that a CORPSE?!">Drifter: "Calm down little gargoyle. He deserved it.">Lash: "Has anyone seen the Lash's personal mustache oil?">Doorman: "Miss Silver. I believe it's your turn to do the dishes as per the chart. Also I took the liberty of cleaning everyone's rooms."...>Silver: "No reason. Just like your place."
>>561330958Ivy stoneform her then, or ask one of your teammates to buy another anvil idk in my experience she's lane hitler that can be raped if she's caught with her pants down
Characters like Graves shouldn't be allowed to be good compared to characters that require vastly more effort.
>>561331137>to buy another anvil idk>buying 2 items that give the Vindicta free healskekw
>>561331045he looks like he's seen some shit
>>561331195I don't agree with you, I don't agree that Graves requires less effort, and the developers agree with me from how they've balanced the game. Sorry.
>>561331045his damage got nerfed last patch what do you mean
>>561329572>>561329867these were the only funny ones. shame on you /dlg/
>>561331221It's tough being a young pussy(cat) in a dog world order
>>561330708writing, yea. i figured
>when you carry so ahrd you team doesnt commend youlonely at the top
do you guys think mo and krill have had gay butt sex with each other before
>>561331195>never mentions hollidayThe reason these larpers never mention holliday or sinclair is because they're unironically the only characters that require skill everyone else from m1fags to spiritfags isn't that hard or brain breaking to play and if you had an ounce of sincerity you'd be crying for holliday buffs WAY WAY before this patch yet that isn't the case because you're a retarded larper who wants to stomp as dyanmo without aiming but want to feel unique
>>561330775Name one OP thing about herShe is a gun character with all the strengths and weakness of a spirit hero. Just buy metal skin and watch her cry as her combo does nothing.
Is it true that quoting memri TV would make me better on mirage?
>>561331472As far as I know we've got three writefags hereI've done a Silver smut piece and I'm working on another, there's a bloke who's done a SFW Pocket/Mina piece, and another guy who's done smut for Ivy and VindictaI always hope we get some more
>>561331630
>>561331630Only if you're red-pilled and ban jewish heros
>>561303981
>>561331920Who are the jewish heroes?
>>561330775Hi Goober
>>561332040don't put those two words together
Is Silver supposed to be so useless in the late game? I couldn't do shit in the late game even when we're winning. Either the damage taken is too high, or the teammates kill everyone before I could touch the enemies
>>561331195the only problematic part of graves kit is that she makes macro easy as fuck toolike why do the zombies push the entire map, it should be a radius so if you want to push a walker it has to be within range of the walker otherwise they sit around
>>561331615Ask the pros instead
>>561331615>all the strengthsShe has no aoe or spirit brust dmg>and weakness of a spirit hero.She doesn't have bad mobility and doesn't die up closeAre all silverfags retarded
I'm eternus btw
>>561332231She doesn't scale terribly well, no
>>561330812Here, I only have rude kitties saved here atm.>>561332358>Are all silverfags retardedYou know the answer.
>>561332241>the only problematic part of graves kit is that she makes macro easy as fuck tooThat would be rem, the zombies die if they walk too long since they bleed hp, and the tombstone is destroy-able and visible to everyone, unlike rem who can put 1 minnon in yellow, another in green and a 3rd in blue and all 3 would be pushed in on their own while he steals your sinners,
These default builds are fucking retarded. Whoever came up with them is stupid or deliberately trying to sabotage new players.What a fool I was to try Abrams first time without setting up a custom build for him.>close quaters, melee charge, spirit strike, melee lifestealWhere is this build even going? And in other heroes too, why the fuck is lightning scroll ever a recommendation on Sinclair?
https://files.catbox.moe/fk47o2.webmhow mad was the doorman?
>>561302975I have never met a good Mirage player who isn't also an insufferable esl pricing who feels the need to be vocal about everything>>561303217>vyperI just wish I could find a comfortable bind setup for her that doesn't hurt my hand.
>>561332358There's a Silver Defamation League that cries in these threads while they strike at you in game with their 50% winrate completely balanced hero. Silvionists won't rest until she's sitting at an 80% wr and they'll still tell you how weak and persecuted she is and how her entire kit turns off with just one of three counter items on the enemy team.
>>561332430>You know the answer.I was hoping i was wrong
>laning with Silver>I'm Sheev>terrible wave clear and enemy is Geist + Apollo so we're obviously not winning trades>do my best to clear creeps that crash on the guardian>at some point realize that I've barely heard a single shot from Silver>he's been trying to poke the Geist on the bridge from afar while in cover the entire time>I stop shooting the creep that was between us and look at him>he looks at me>he pauses for 2 seconds>he shoots the creep
>>561332471nah it doesnt even matter since they're pushing the wave anyway
>>561332603>50% winrate completely balanced herofuck no, silver is probably too strong right now if you can aim. luckily she doesn't turbo scale
>>561332603>Silvionists won't rest until she's sitting at an 80% wr and they'll still tell you how weak and persecuted she isThis part is false>and how her entire kit turns off with just one of three counter items on the enemy team.This part is trueSo your post has a 50% true rate, which is pretty balanced
>>561332603Yeah they were literally complaining and crying about her buffs, not nerfs *BUFFS* and still they were acting as if sh was the wrost hero on the roster
wtf is with people in seeker that clearly have next to 0 mechanical skill or game knowledge, never deny, effectively never last hit, don't know how to jackpot sinners, hitting the parry every single time?I'm a little retarded ofc, I hit the parry sometimes but these motherfuckers cannot do anything. But they can press F perfectly every time in lane and late game.
BUFF SILVER ALREADY HOLY SHIT
silver: moidivy: moidvictor: foiddoorman: gayabrams: gaylash: foidvenator: gay>I will not elaborate.
>>561332768>But they can press F perfectly every time in lane and late game.If they're dogshit doo doo poo poo at the game but are doing shit like parrying light melees from behind, they're very likely using an autoparry cheat
>>561332603Silver is weakI'm sorry if you got trashed on because you held W on her wolf form, better luck next time champ.
>>561332801the posters thirsting for them
>>561332768being parried and getting fucked to death horribly is probably one of the first things drilled into a player in this game right in their face
>>561332780They keep giving her wrong buffs and wrong nerfs. Make her squishy in human form and make her a menace in the ult. Give ult a slightly bigger cooldown if you have to.
>>561332725>Yeah they were literally complaining and crying about her buffs, not nerfs *BUFFS*Why were they doing that? Was it because the buffs were nothingburgers that didn't actually change anything?
>>561332768>>561332857Low elo players love nothing more than heavy meleeing, so if they got parried and raped they hopefully learned that parrying is a thing and is important to do
Celeste's outfit actually looks good if you remove the frills.
>>561332913Nah bro you don't understand shes so hecking OP She's clearly S+ tier right now, can't you tell? A whole whopping 0.16 increase in winrate mega busted!
I'm trying to figure out how the Graves changes could have been significant enough for this many shitters to be getting raped by her. Her gun didn't get any stronger, right? It's just zombies/wall spam that's winning games?Just had my sidelane go 1 kill/ 13 deaths to Graves/Silver before the 10 minute mark and they were complaining about Graves being OP but that doesn't seem like a Graves issue so much as a feeding issue.
>>561332685>nah it doesnt even matter since they're pushing the wave anywayLike any hero in the game? I don't get your point desu, if u push a wave then a hero will rape it which will make it bounce back since now their minnons are more then your minions, the only heros who can affect this process uniquely is graves and rem, rem can just put a helper and now even 3 enemy minnons will beat your 5~6 minnons because they have a helper(dmg, resist, healing, etc) graves on the other hand has to summon a tombstone which spawns zombies every 4 seconds, if it's near your walker without with a wave and you're already there you can just kill the wave and heavy melee 2 times if she's not there, if the tombstone is near their walker then the zombies will die before they reach your walker unlike rem minnons, at worst you can kill them while pushing the wave giving you extra souls. What am i missing? How is she annoying in regards to pushing waves?
>>561332913>Why were they doing that?Because they're brats in need of correction.
Buff literally all of these characters
>>561333029people get caught by the echo shard line memes and immediately start loudly crying instead ofA) jumping onceB) buying dispel
>>561333190good artist
>>561333015Mod link?
>>561333193>jumping onceSimon says
>>561333281https://gamebanana.com/mods/657826
>>561333190>>561333227It IS good art, but>futafaggotryJust no
>>561333191>I'm supposed to believe that venator rem and shiv are bad>>>>celeste is worse then silver if we actually go by thisWhoever takes these lists seriously has to be retarded in some way, that or they don't play the game and just argue all day
I've started using pauses to tell my lane partner to stop acting retarded. Am I becoming a toxic player?Just used one to tell the Haze player to stop trying to trade Venator behind veil.
>>561333284>alchemist mindbroken that he has to perform counterplaydo you say this for melee as well? Simon says parry? Simon says avoid the huge flaming ball of death coming your way? Simon says don't touch the stove?retard
>>561333342Any character with lower than 47.52 winrate is balanced for pros and unplayable in pubs. Needs buffs and/or rework
>>561333070it pushes the wave over and over and over, so even if you push the wave back it shoves the wave back into you again and again it's not about the zombies hitting the walker it's about pushing the wave for free. Rem has to actually be there to continue empowering the waves while graves does it for a full fucking minute or more and can do it in both lanes with refresher
>>561333191More than half of these characters are busted but need you to aim slightly or think before you press your buttons.
>>561333193Yeah I mean, let me be clear that I've been maining Graves even before the patch and have been doing echo shard wall memes and it's clearly good, but I that doesn't really come online for a while. I feel like the double zombie spawn at all Tombstone levels is pretty significant for winning fights in lane and in the jungle, I've definitely felt the impact of that.
are the inhouses usually on saturday?
>>561333029>Her gun didn't get any stronger, right?Yes, only after 8~9 ability points she can suck 2 people at once but the damage is still garbage>It's just zombies/wall spam that's winning games?Fucking apparently i guess, i always play hybrid so idk why everyone is crying about her>Just had my sidelane go 1 kill/ 13 deaths to Graves/Silver before the 10 minute mark and they were complaining about Graves being OP but that doesn't seem like a Graves issue so much as a feeding issue.They were just feeding and complaining as usual, which is fine, the mindbroken people online are annoying though
>>561333430except silver right?
>Silver is OMEGA OP according to pros>in every NS game she is either carried by her teammates or just feeds endlessly and does nothing
>>561333191The only thing in that list that needs buffs is pocket, and bebop bombs.Vyper and holliday need slight reworks since they just have flawed designs.
My wife Silver is literally the only hero who can consistently generate such breadth and depth of discussion.How does she affect people like this? She must just have some kind of magnetism to her, something that might be animal in some way.
>>561333520People just sprint into the fucking zombies and explode, man, I swear to god.
>>561333339That futaKINO to you
>>561333557I am praying for another Grey Talon owl to hit Silv Erviv tonight.
>>561333561Its almost like you can make any hero look good if you are carried by a Geist/Mina with a 10k + soul advantage
>>561333520>i always play hybrid
Holliday should have never gotten in at her current state, I think people only wanted her in because she's a waifu character.
>>561333642the real question is why people want silver to visibly carry pro games, all the frontline initiators get their asses beat horribly on repeat if the team isn't doing good.
>>561333642>>561333561And also have a healslut Kelvin protecting your ass nonstop
>>561333642>with a 10k + soul advantageHow was that advantage generated?
>>561333579>holds down W in a straight line when going to the tombstone>gets undead akbar'dWOOOOOOOOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT???
>>561332549>why the fuck is lightning scroll ever a recommendation on Sinclair?When you are playing against Seven, or Bebop, or Mcginnis mostly, and you're not playing against Dynamo. Also mystic slow is just a nive pickup for Sinclair anyway to mitigate the bonus movespeed on bunnies
Sinclair should have never gotten in at his current state, I think people only wanted him in because he's a husbando character.
>>561333750>the real question is why people want silver to visibly carry pro gamesBecause they have an agendaIf Silver pops off, they can claim the hero is OP, which will let them...... actually I'm not sure what this does for them
>>561333660correct, holliday was just sitting in the game files for a while and yoshi did a poll and even questioned why people wanted her in and she made it in.I think we'd be in a better place if they just finished rutger instead and gave him gun swaps on his ability keys.
>>561333573I think she's the most interestingly designed out of all the new heroes (That doesn't mean she's well thought out btw, but its clear they tried experimenting with her)Like I said before she's the inverse of a gun hero. Gun heroes scale. Silver doesn't. But in turn she gets a lot of burst damage her in human form.
>>561333750If a character cant solo carry in NS they fucking suck and need buffs
Graves should have never gotten in at her current state, I think people only wanted him in because she's a pedobait character.
>>561333754I play healslut kelvin but I only pocket abrams and melee venator players.
>>561333882time for billy buffs, the masses want to see a scaling billy rape people live
How do I dynamo?
>>561333925And that's a good thing!
Vyper should have never gotten in at her current state, I think people only wanted her in because her voice makes their dick hard
>AWOOOOOOOO- BLARGH!
They should rework Holiday's headshot passive into an auto-aim thing where you paint targets like in RDR, it fits both the cowboy theming more than extra damage on headshots every now and then and her kit wanting you in the air all the time.
>>561333947Based
Paradox ult should de-age your character and it only works on Graves.
>character with insane burst on CDs>an ult that is very strong early game and turns in to an escape tool late gameyeah, we have never seen anything like it before
Rem should have never gotten in at his current state, I think people only wanted him in because he's a furbait character.
>>561334080*slowing hexes you*
Abrams should have never gotten in at her current state, I think people only wanted him in because he's a bara character.
>>561334030Agreed.
>>561334107doesn't his kit just work through slowing hex for no fucking reason anyway?
>Then I remember Shiv is one of Yoshi's favourite characters????????????
>>561333882yesI think Silver should unironically be able to immediately dive past the guardian, into walker, kill 2 people under it and walk away with a full HP bar
>>561334176no, slowing hex literally disables his lunges. enough for him to never be able to recast it again
>>561334202seething doorcuck kekw
>>561334202>1.5k dmg at 16 minshe doesn't remember when Paradox could literally 1shot you 10 minutes in
>>561333394>Am I becoming a toxic player?Not really, people cry about pausing but it's fine, i use it to sip water, as long as you just don't flame the guy out of nowhere some people are just new and trying their best
>>561334176It disables everything but the riposte.
Abrams' gun is legit the worst thing everIt feels horrible to shoot this thing
I dont think tupac would like deadlock if he was still alive
>>561334032No it should stay a worse headshot booster
Abrams' gun is legit the worst thing everIt feels horrible to get shot by this thing
>>561333660But she requires alot of aim and skills isn't this what you fags wanted?
Let's see what this gun can do
Abrams’ dick is legit the best thing everIt feels amazing to get shot by this thing
>>561334202AIIEEE I stood still and took 3 slow skillshot projectiles to the face in row yoshi pls nerf
Whats the plan, V?
>>561334527This is the same general that hates m1 or movement of course they hate aiming but I do agree Holliday is weak
>>561333573Despite having a failure of game design ult, her concept is interesting. She is a good hero stuck in the wrong game.
>>561334579I'll deal with the troopers
>>561334630>>561334630>>561334630
I think Silver deserves happy ending and big loving family
>>561334645Retreat!No!
>>561334579POOL BACK
>>561334202A week ago I played with a pre-nerf Victor who was bitching nonstop about Shiv on voice because the knives were doing too much damage and that Shiv was hacking
>>561334202>doorcuck(literally hitler) crying about shiv, a character who stands up again and again despite the kneecaps and lobotomies>rushes a fucking vortex instead of any spirit resistSome people have no shame man
>>561333660Holliday is right at home in the bottom of the tier list with her wife Silver
>>561334650Im not using a silverkek thread
>>561334775Enjoy your break, KEK
enhanced (brawl) rescue beam is the most busted item in the game
>>561334668Me too.
>>561302975>You have ulcers on your lip from biting it every time you get hit with Knockdown.This never happens if the mina is good, only time it hits me is if network has the jitters.
>>561306968Nah that lane is aids, you either A. stay in lane and try to survive or B. look for the earliest opertunity to leave lane and Rake someone for a kill. First option tends to be a slow loss latter either tilts the enemy team or your team pick your poison.
>>561307825No I agree with you, I don't think characters should be so extreme at different stages of the game.>>561311513CS
>>561311545Oses!?
Items/upgrades should be add-ons, instead of all this scaling and multiplicative bullshit. That works for basic MOBAs but not this game. That's why it's hard for these morons to balance.
