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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-25-2026-update.121766/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>561856647
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Mirage is an honest hero
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gay sex with apollo!
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>>561898804
Anon....
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shiv ruins street brawl enjoyment
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TAKE YOUR BETS
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why is there a camera icon above my character?
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>Valve adds a mattress to the tunnels of nyc mid rothschild lawsuit and no one cares
How the fuck did gabe and yoshi get away with this
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>>561905563
lol u died noob
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fucking hour long game we could easily have won if it wasn't for our russian 3/18 drifter whose favorite activity was chasing a guy down into the enemy jungle, getting jumped, and then screaming into the mic about it
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>>561905424
2slow...
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>>561905563
Because that's who's perspective youre currently watching
RETARD
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New heroes when? So slow. Also they really need to put more "pretty" women in the game. I've seen so many people actually trying to play the game just because they saw Mina. Not even joking. Celeste was second.
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>I'M THE TENTH PLAUGE
>in nomine patris et filii et sancti....
>I'M THE REAPER'S HANDMAIDEN
>i got you you sonofabitch...
>*doorman laughing maniacally while his real voice slips through*
>YOUR LIVES ARE FORFIT
>i need your help Nasalah
>god forgive me...
>IN A FEW SECONDS, THIS WILL ALL. BE. OVER.
I love the voice acting in this game so much man, it's so cool
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>>561905828
They need to roll out proper models for the NP leftovers
I dont even play Yamato I'm just sick of looking at her.
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>>561905828
sorry valve just went on their 10th yearly vacay no more work on the game cept some random balance tweaks suggested by gemini
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>>561905828
Next patch is gonna finish the map/city. Probably Yamato and old heroes reworks after that and only then new heroes.
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Is that a... A CHARACTER WITH ONLY A 15 METER RANGE?!?!
AAAAIIIIIEEEE SAVE ME YOSHI
THERES NOTHING MY CHARACTER WITH A 50 METER FALL OFF RANGE AND BULLETS THAT STACK DOTS + AN ABILITY TO RUN AWAY CAN DO
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>>561905947
HEADED TO GRENICH
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>>561905828
Brother some of the new heroes don't even have animations/use placeholders. So not until Sept at the earliest.
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>>561905947
P U L L
B A C K
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more drifter and shiv posting, less yurifag tourist posting
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How hairy is Silver's pussy
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every time I see a mina player with a cute anime girl as avatar, i wanna RAPE
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>>561906230
>graves isnt OP bro just only queue m1ggers bro just never play the half of the roster that only does anything within 15m bro
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>>561906162
make yamato into timbersaw ...
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>>561905947
lets see what this dick can do
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What's the best way to practice counterspelling?
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>>561905563
THEY'RE WATCHING
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>>561906454
Tropical jungle
Humid, damp, drenched
So dense you could get lost in it
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>>561906724
Parry everytime you are about to die to a spell even if you don't have it.
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>>561906454
She has a cookie
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>>561906805
i hate this
i like women but pussies are so fucking nasty
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>>561906510
is that a buttplug
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>>561906862
final redpill
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>>561906862
Not all women.
https://files.catbox.moe/a65tdh.jpg
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mystic shot and fleetfoot are really nice on shiv so I should probably get a 3rd 1600 to get the 4.6k but I'm not sure if I like soul shredder or opening rounds more. maybe stalker cuz I'm always in someones face anyway?
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>>561907161
point blank
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>ballistic enhancement is bugged on victor
cool
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So when are we nerfing holliday?
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>queue jeet brool with paige banned
>matchmaker takes 6 gorillion years until giving up and dumping me into a game with paige in it

I'm getting bored of this recurring episode.
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why didnt vindicta get stunned
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niggers be like yooo im gonna make 10 new accounts to ruin games haha

note: nigger is being used in the colloquial humorous word way not racist way
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>>561906230
>single graves skull hits me
>my movespeed is now slow enough graves can catch me
after the early patch that adjusted how the skulls move only bullet hose characters can actually shoot the fucking things before at least one hits you, especialy since she can kobe the jar right at you from a mile away
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>>561907337
LMAO
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>>561907161
>mystic shot
Is this item good? i feel like it's a meme even when you don't miss since it only does like 100 extra dmg twice or thrice in a fight, i feel like other items are more useful
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>>561906454
Completely shaved, whenever she transforms back to human, all hair from the eyes down burns away, smooth as the day she was born, trust me yoshi is my dad
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>>561907262
would be a lot more then just 4.6k and close quarters is below it. if I was gonna do this I'd go slowing -> weighted so I can stay at 4.6 and upgrade super late game to the t3 that pretty much does the same thing as PB
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This is a message to all Rem players: please level your assistants to max and spam them on waves. Please. Your pillow is not that good. You don't need to max pillow first and buy 50 items for it. Nobody in this game pushes waves, people only manage waves properly on eternus lobbies, if you have your helpers autopushing one of the three lanes all game you will win the game for your team. You literally just have to press 3 on the wave. Please do it.
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>>561907438
whats so funny bitch
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>>561905424
>When she sees the Abrams BBC
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>>561907154
thats best case scenario
and it still looks kinda weird and alien to me
like its not part of our species
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>>561906862
hairy and/or beefy are icky
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>>561907549
fair, weighted shots might feel bad with the recent nerfs to his stam recovery, havent tried it. Also mystic shot might just be a meme item on Shiv due to m2 movement + 3 slots dedicated to gun might matter a lot might not
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Lets see what this rem can do.
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>>561907452
it's really nice on shiv because you build a big chunk of rage if you land it
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>shiv on team
>lose
wow
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>>561907553
>please be our janny :)
no, I'm gonna steal our sinners first and then build full orange
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is it me or wraith's card generation isn't affected by damage falloff?
stacking afterburn with infernus can get outright ridiculous and she can just stack cards on 1 damage shots?
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Tick Tick Tick
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>>561907982
even if you're sometimes spending the mystic on m2's to slide around it's still weapon investment now that shivs gun is worth using again and +7 spirit power so it's always doing something
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>>561908087
Fair, so it's bad in general outside of that right?
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>>561908365
it's good on graves too because she literally can't miss it but maybe she'd rather buy other stuff idk
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They should nerf monster rounds and buff cultist sacrifice, as is monster rounds is very useful while cultists is not worth the upgrade for how much it costs
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>>561906451
drifter and shiv posting is gonna be postponed until shiv gets any new fucking lines and we can see them go full hugh jackman van hellsing on eachother
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>>561907337

You get zipline knockdown immunity if you ride on it for 3 seconds. She sent blue just before getting hit.
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>>561908558
I usually don't build on graves since the damage is just not worth it, same with headshots items since they're hard to land on holiday but when you land them they deal no damage, only worth it on characters like ivy and wraith were the aiming and shooting is more forgiving since you can just fire 40 bullets a second like a laser
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Explain the idea behind balancing around a draft mode that virtually none of the playerbase has access to
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the 50/50 normalization is getting too obvious, when you get a team designed to int you they all just meander around pointing and clicking and give up points for free
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>>561909038
Ill let you know as soon as yohsit shares
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Explain cold front > arctic blast to me. Are we really paying 4800 extra souls for 4% more spirit resist and a 0.75 second immobilize?
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>>561909547
damage amp
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>>561909547
Doesnt take an extra slot
Immobilizes which is a death sentence late game
Does decent damage
Come on now
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>>561905592
What's the significance of that?
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>>561909547
Higher spirit scaling
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>>561909106
You only need one agent to skew the balance.
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>>561909968
Someone shoulda swapped with the Ven that lane is aids for him.
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>>561909968
>graves died 8 times
I thought she was broken?
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>>561907452

There are couple of uses I see for it.
First is heroes that need burst damage to trigger their abilities, Shiv and Silver come to mind.
Second is its ability to counter Spellbreaker if you are otherwise going for a spirit build. Shoot once and you can follow-up with your actual nukes. Possibly relevant for Yamato since you can also get the 4.8k gun investment with it + Point Blank.
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>>561907452
It's a great gun item on anyone that builds spirit since they buffed it's scaling. Before that it was no falloff lane poke but afaik people don't get it for that anymore.
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next 6 sinners or cultists or whatever we're calling them should all be frontliners
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>lane is not the greatest but at least we're not dying and rem holds it while I go take boxes
>sinners spawn, I go take ours after pushing the lane expecting rem to try to steal theirs
>right when I'm about to hit the last melee, rem arrives and uses one of his friends to steal it
>I walk right into their walker and spend the rest of the game afk farming
Serves that rat fuck right
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>two aim bots on enemy team
>our graves start pissing and moaning
>goes AFK while blowing up ally chat most of the game
>the rest of us just keep fighting tooth and nail
>our infernus just keeps raping every jungle on the map
>eventually one of the enemy team DCs
>we start pushing back
>half the team leaves
>we win
>the graves DCed before we started the comeback so he got a lose
ABSOLUTE FUCKING CINEMA. Also the sweet fucking irony of the auto aim nigger crying about some Russians with zero game sense with auto aim is insane
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>>561911250
The shopkeeper calls them Mystics
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There's two fucking threads up right now
>>561898804
>>561898804
>>561898804
>>561898804
I don't really care but I say we use this one first because it's older. We can return to this mina one afterwards
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>>561911457
The people have already decided this is the better of the two, no sense in forcing it
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>>561911457
OP art diff I'm afraid
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I'm trying Shiv and having fun with him but I feel so useless after early game
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>>561911250
>sinners
Limbab your power level is showing, heroes, we're calling them heroes since this is a hero shooter
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Do I just give up lane and go farm jungle if I'm fighting a lane bully like Mina or Vyper or Haze but are also constantly denying the souls the nanosecond you can shoot at it? I'm genuinely fucking convinced these are cheaters.
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>>561911457
i cba
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just played a match that mindbroke me out of victor inhibitor/silencer cucks him so hard this is miserable
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>enemy takes objective
>ally just stands and watchers like retard
>they took the objective
>they sperg out and start fighting
What causes this niggerbrained behavior?
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>>561911920
>inhibitor/silencer cucks him so hard
unlike every other character in the game
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>>561911782
>limbus
Nah remember seeing it in this thread cause of Sinner's Sacrifice
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>>561911976
>vyper
>janky
rebind you slide and increase your sense
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>>561905947
What's the plan?
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>>561911976
m&k's gun feels pretty easy to aim but holy shit it also feels like its tickling the enemy most of the time
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>>561911983
yes victor gets cucked extra hard
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>>561905276
I don't play this game but SNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFF
That's all
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>>561905276
Miss me with the sweatlords playing this game. At least marvel rivals has casuals you can dunk on every single game
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I dont think Haze should have 2 free dispel magics
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>>561911457
GOOD
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>be graves
>drop my ult
>someone runs up to break it
>let them have the first hit
>parry the second one
>kill them
works every time
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>>561910245
Wdym, they're both prime gutshot material
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>>561912327
ooof, this doesnt look good sis
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>>561912327
rivals mm was better, in eternity you might have one retard on each team, I have to carry 3+ retards every DL game if I am expected to win
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>>561912327
>>561912559
back to shield heal pokeslop, capeshitters
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yoshitcucknigger
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I think the game should lock you out of queue for 30 minutes if you lose a game with 10+ deaths
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>>561909968
Ascendant still has 2-15 Drifters?
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One thing i can never get the hang of is the eight minutes sinners timer. You should take your team sinners as soon as you can after they spawn, but more often than not leaving lane to take double sinners means your lane partner is either going to die or you're losing the tower, or maybe both. It never works out when i try it, it never seems worth it
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>>561912283
based pitCHAD
>>561912327
its because ranked/normal q isnt separated
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Apollo vs. Mina is hopeless for mina, right? Just try to lane swap if you see it?
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>>561912725
I havent played rivals in almost a year, yet a chinese mobileslop company can make a better mm than valve.
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>>561912464
>pre buff
>ult the moment i get it infront of the enemy laners
>one of them fucks off the other heavies
>parry
>deal no fucking damage because my gun is a peashooter
>heavies AGAIN
>gets parried AGAIN and dies
Best moment playing graves ever, unfortunately everyone knows about the strat now so they're smarter with their heavies, viscous can also just bluetooth heavy your gravestone
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>>561909803
the jewish tunnels probably, I'm not being funny, there was actually tunnels used by jewish people in New York
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>>561912327
LMFAO xhe thinks xhe is playing against real people
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>>561912967
You are the retarded person in the lobby everyone gets to stomp in this game, I can see why you would prefer rivals
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>>561912941
Just stay away and shoot him, you have the longer range
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>>561912967
>Zhang thinks bots are real mm
KEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>561912967
this migth be hard to admit for some but you're right, valve hasn't done mm well ever, every single one of their games has awful mm, im playing cs 2 these days, its legit horrible, idk why they're so bad at it, clearly some nepo baby running it
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>>561913154
people always say this as if the enemy doesnt have any agency, or as if apollo specifically doenst have some of the best distance closing abilities in the game
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>>561913154
why are you talking if you don't understand how either of these characters work
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Reposting this >>561902660
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>retard on my team picks silver
>lose
Why do people keep picking this worthless F tier trash hero, I haven't seen anyone win on this trash in weeks
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>>561912559
What's DL?
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>>561913314
>mina has no agency to rake and retreat
holy exposure
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Can Vindicta instantly scope and fire her ult?
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>>561913353
>give up all denies
meme shit, 1 box will give you as many souls as denying half a wave (will never happen against competent players)
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>>561913495
yes but at reduced damage, should be doing it to finish off every enemy for the bonus
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ANOTHER GAME LOST BECAUSE RETARDS DIDNT GO MID AND WE COULDNT FINISH HOLY SHIT I FUCKING HATE SUBHUMAN NIGGERS WHO DONT KNOW BASIC MACROS
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Holy fuck Grey Talon is fun. He's not a sniper, he's a human missile silo.

So has anyone made any drone strike meme edits with him or what?
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>>561913569
I never had this problem even in seeker
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>>561913242
I dont even know what the fuss is about, the current drama is metro having a shitfit he has phantom teammates in an e6 lobby. deadlock has the worst mm in the industry, not even my dotard or cs friends want to play anymore. Which is sad because the base game is really fun.
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>>561913595
Grey Talon is the fucked kinda character where he can go spirit and or gun halfway through his build and just ruin your day.
Not enjoyable at all to face him and even worse so when he's ult spamming from across the map.
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>>561907337
you hit her JUST as she got immunity.
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>>561913754
>metro having a shitfit he has phantom teammates in an e6 lobby
metro is the phantom
>Which is sad because the base game is really fun
kek
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>>561907840
Hairy good
Beefy not
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I *WILL* keep playing Victor, Seven, and Graves no matter what their balance state is.
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>>561913314
>>561913335
>asks a question then cries when given an answer
My bad let me try again
you can do NOTHING it's OVER you should just bend over and ask apollo to RAPE YOU with his big ixian cock, infact type it into all chat and MOAN into the mic so your whole team can hear you get RAPED by apollo's BIC, and don't even TRY to fight back because there's NOTHING you can do mina sis
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>>561911782
does limbus call characters sinners or something or is this just a schizophrenic delusion?
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>>561913569
odd my games go to shit because my retarded teammates want to do mid instead of ending fast
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>>561912967
>that one retard think xer matches are real
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>>561914062
bots babyshitting shitters is unironically better than me babysitting them.
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>>561913985
you have AGP I fear
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>>561914062
bot matches are probably more fun than human feeders
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>>561906862
>human* pussies are so fucking nasty
ftfy
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>>561905276
Just had the pleasure of playing against a cheating chink with a game ban on record.
He was playing Vindicta.
There was also a 3 stack of 1 game, 1 year old accounts on the enemy team.
I fucking hate Oracle bros..
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>>561913861
Yeah, I'm going for spirit/ult spam.
It's so fun just nuking people mid fight, with a blast radius to easily catch multiple people.
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>>561913936
>Can't handle a little Arby's
Your loss
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>>561914191
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NETEASE ZHANGS
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>>561914191
>>561914157
amazing cope, keep it up xisters
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>>561914282
I hope a melee creep walks right in front of you as you're mid animation
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>>561913950
based i complain about victor all the damn time but nothing hits like him
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What would you real rank be if you could only use honest heroes?
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>>561914315
nta but yknow valve games are crawling with bots too right
just wait for release
they have made tf2 unplayable for example
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>>561913495
yes but only do that if you the enemy is really low on health or your teammates can finish them off so you get the stack of damage
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>joke about gun Paige in other thread
>get this against me
maybe MM is listening to everything I think and say.
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>>561913950
>I will keep playing 2 S tier character and 1 A tier (formerly most OP character in the game)
so brave, I applaud you
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>laning vs graves lash
>graves pops her tombstone down at her guardian
>billy immediately tries to fight with 4-5 zombies in play and gets instagibbed and repeats this every time graves ult is in play
i think graves is strong but not the best in the game and its hard to take winrates at facevalue when im watching shit like this happen in my game
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>>561913902
>300 damage instantly
>"..."
>200 damage over a few seconds
>"AAAAAHHHH I'M GOING INSANE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN'
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Is it ALWAYS worth it to wait for the full jackpot from Sinners or do you quick melee it sometimes?
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Can they kneecap Kelvin already? Every fucking game this absolute cunt runs rampant because he gets everything but the kitchen sink in his kit.
Can't chase him, can't stand and fight him, can't win lane vs him because of heal grenades. What is Yoshi's obsession with giving characters with heals the ability to also stand and fight.
Dynamo and Kelvin are such high win rate for a reason.
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>>561914512
what rank is this
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anyone else notice that when grey talon is using his owl, random shit just doesnt hit him?
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>>561914407
>tf2 tranny can't tell the difference between dev bots that tricked those retards and hat farming bots
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>>561914508
I'm eternus 2.
I realize you're a Seekerbro, but up here:
Graves is A after her nerfs (was literally the worst character in the game for months).
Seven is B.
Victor is D (was A prior to the nerfs).
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>>561912857
They will almost always be on the late game stat check heroes.
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i wish they'd lighten up the "focused item" pool for street brawl
its really hard for me to do some of my favorite meme spec builds now with certain characters
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>>561914704
Seen a clip where billy ult just didnt interact with him while he was piloting his bird yeah
>>561914627
if u are stealing enemy sinners and scared, u can just deny them the buff and run
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>>561913985
>"hey, is this a bad matchup"
>"no, it's actually a good matchup because [made up reason]"
>"that is a dumb reason that has no bearing in reality"
>whatever the fuck you just posted

If your original post was just trying to say "play passive, try stay even in lane, and get a slowing hex early", which I think is the correct idea here, you could not have done a worse job conveying that.

The problem I see with the matchup is that:
1. Mina is an early game, close range, character who wants to snowball in lane
2. Apollo is an early game, close range, character who wants to snowball in lane

Mina is not a long range character, the effective range of love bites and the effective range of apollo are the same thing. Additionally, apollo ult when it first comes up absolutely destroy's mina since you have such low HP, but apollo can definitely riposte the mina ult. Overall, even though they have similar game plans, Apollo is stronger early game, but falls off harder, and gets cucked harder but counter items.
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>>561914750
most of the bots in tf2 aren't farming anything, they're literally just put in there to ruin the game for some reason
only reason CS 2 isn't swarmed is because it costs 15$
deadlock shouldn't be free imo, but since it is, it'll be swarmed
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>>561913950
Based
>>561913989
(you)
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>>561914548
>300 damage instantly vs 200 DPS over a few seconds
ftfy
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>>561914661
ascendant 6 was the match avg
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>>561914704
Sometimes, some specific ults and melee don't work on him.
I've seen Billys not work, Minas not work, and Lash's not work on an ulting GT. Weird shit.
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>>561910527
Graves dies like seven or eight times per match until she gets whatever her power spike is and becomes a rape machine.
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>>561914823
uh huh
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Reminder that once they do a visual rework for Vyper, she will be as popular as Haze if not more.
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>>561913569
Let me guess: there were 2 enemies down with 20s timers and a zipline pushed all the way to your blue walker and you said to go mid
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>>561913515
>one box at 2 mins gives 30 souls
>one deny at 2 mins creates a 60 soul swing
I think you're lying. I don't know WHY you're lying, but you are.
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As a long time league player, can someone explain the cope that "winrate doesn't accurately measure strength" come from?
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>>561914871
>>561915017
I found the ulting talon as ven. shot him in the head until he was about 1/3rd down and tried to burst him with grenade, gutshot, wall enhanced heavy melee and everything besides my gun went right through him
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>>561915104
>winrates
Oh, you're a retard, I will no longer reply to (You). This is your last one.
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>>561914980
billychads... our response?
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>>561915119
We could finish but we didn't have mid so we couldn't last long enough in their base.
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>>561913950
Wow man so brave playing the best heroes in the game what a fucking trooper you are
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>>561915046
>seven or eight
Nine, which is why he's in jail
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>>561915104
uhhhmmm small sample size
uhhhmmmm winrates don't indicate anything
uhhhmmmmm you're just statistic brained
uhhhmmmmmm she's actually bad
uhhhmmmmmmm just trust me instead
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Focus lens and Cursed relic both seem kind of "Fuck this guy in particular", in what situation do I take one over the other?
I know I probably wouldn't want cursed relic on a non-support character, but other than that?
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>>561914898
>CS 2 costs 15$
bro is fighting demons in his head. what year is it, jumanji?
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>>561915187
you should know this then because when character like azir and ryze get anywhere near a 48% winrate, that means they need to be nerfed immediately because of how strong they are
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So uhh any good deadlock memes come out recently?
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>>561915404
no just porn
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>>561915330
last time i checked u still need 15$ to get into premier only matchmaking in CS2 which is the only matchmaking anyone human uses
but yes, it doesn't stop farm bots, because the drops are profitable, idk how deadlock drops will look like, but there's almost no bots in competitive/premier, they're all on casual modes
deadlock needs smth similar or its gg
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would graves have sex with a stranger if the lich ordered her to "for training"?
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>>561915187
It started when boosted Victor players couldn't honestly defend their dishonest hero.
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>>561915323
>in what situation do I take one over the other?
Curse if they have dispel or you suspect they have the brains to buy it, OR if they will use an active to retaliate/escape, OR if you need to dispel something off them that will aid their escape
If none of those things apply, focus gives fuckloads more damage in comparison
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>>561915187
basically hard to play chars will always have lower winrates even if they're strong, mina has bellow 48% even rn pretty sure, shiv is always low
but you usually combine them with pickrates/ban rates to see if they're good
by all metrics graves is good rn, 60% pick at 56% wr is really good, i just played against her a few times today too and that shit is still strong, now idk if A or S but probably low S imo
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>>561915404
Some of y'all are horrible people. do better

https://old.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1s3x9je/some_of_you_are_horrible_people/
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>>561915398
proplay prison is a separate argument, and is really an argument for how pro-play is overall bad for the health of the game. If ryze is at 48% winrate it doesn't mean YOU are going to run into Ryze running the game over and over.
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why this general is so mindbroke by victor
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black on black crime
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why is Silver so polarizing?

I play her at Phantom and I think she is in a good spot. I see other people here say she is stupid broken and other people say she is totally useless.
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>>561913515
But I'm not talking about competent players. I'm talking about pisslow.
I've denied all of 3 waves in a row before.
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In what world is the highest pick and win rate character across all ranks not S+ tier? These people cannot be taken seriously
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>>561915323
Well the important thing about curse is that it also removes status effects. Things like unstoppable, fury trance, self buffing abilities like what Victor has. It's really good at shutting down say a lash ult spammer. Focus Lens is more saved for the fat fucks and bruisers like Billy. Love it with duration extender
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Make extra health and extra regen the same item, and upgradable to fortitude.
Reword the two improved healing items so they don't suck ass to use for 99% of the roster.
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>>561915404
I guess the whole metro being a lolcow thing, if you count that
>>561915702
It's not nearly as funny when you screenshot your own speech, you know
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>>561915702
>sam and max abrams
unfathomably based
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>>561915836
>seethe and screech that andrew chicken is in his game and that SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE IM SO HIGH ELO HES SO LOW ELO
>get stomped by andrew chicken
what do u call this
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>>561915742
she's a pretty decent to good character. it all comes from when pros calling her S+++ tier for like 2 months and being 1st pick/ban in nightshift despite all metric point to the opposite of that being true that caused this. Silver at one point had a 2/15 record in nightshift and low 40s in winrate at all ranks so it became a vocal point of every match.
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>>561915742
She's literally brain-breakingly hot
It completely destroys people's rationality and makes them only able to argue in extremes, because they come into the argument already loving or hating her and needing to push an agenda
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>>561915836
I use the quotes as reaction images, the funny is optional
>>561915841
I almost swapped it for the hellboy one but its too kino
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>>561915836
https://files.catbox.moe/prkv5z.mp4
i hope more people troll him about the andrew chicken thing
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>haze spends 30 minutes afk farming
>meanwhile, we keep on brooling and having fun
>eventually we start losing since we're always 5v6
>haze types "what a team" when they're already at our base
>type "what a carry"
>he loses his shit and starts calling everyone a monkey
Kek. Imagine wasting so much time of your life breaking boxes just for the game to be over before you "can" do anything. Also, maybe I'm wrong but I think he's a loltard. They love to use monkey to insult their teammates.
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>>561916074
did the kelvin throw or was he a pussy
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>>561915742
Emotional fans who suck at the game and people who just got knotted by her ingame. Just look at the clip of metro losing in a separate lane from graves and crying about autoaim on a graves that was building full spirit
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Mina buttplug.
Silver sweaty bushy pussy.
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>get silver on my team
>again
>lose
>again
Why won't they buff this worthless hero already
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>>561916132
had some retard call me a mutt in game the other day
how do people not realize its a silly ass word that means nothing if you aren't obsessed with genealogy
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>>561916257
based
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>Let's deify a random nigger shit talking a lolcow because we are subhuman cuckolds!
Thank you but no thank you.
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>>561913936
>Hairy good
the 70's were a long time ago, gramps
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>>561915620
This is generally how I see it
>Low win rate, low pick rate: Probably a bad character
>Low win rate, high pick rate: Needs more data, can either be strong and getting the win rate tanked by shitters, or is just hard to play but still popular for whatever reason
>High win rate, low pick rate: Probably balanced, generally these characters are hard to play and have high win rates from a small handful of dedicated one-tricks
>High win rate, high pick rate: Usually overpowered in one way or another, should be looked at
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>>561916293
post the silver's build I wanna see something
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>>561916351
Hey sorry guys, it's my first week on here I usually post on r/deadlockgame. I forgot to reply, clumsy me! Meant for >>561915836 >>561916074
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>>561916351
half the general are troons, they thrive on e-drama
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>>561916397
It was a different time
Perhaps a better time
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How does Split Shot work on Vyper?
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>>561916497
Thoughts on hairy anus?
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>>561916487
Sad
I hope they find a cure
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>>561915187
the main reason i don't care about the winrates is because they aren't official
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>>561916638
Less good
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>>561916676
41% of them do
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>>561916409
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>>561916638
Patrician
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>Only now notice Yamato's real name is Kaori
>immediately get a flashback to Kaori from tower of trample
>can't concentrate while playing yamato
>finish game quick go jerk off
boy that took me for a spin ngl
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>>561916854
>only 7 greens
this was her problem
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>>561916398
generally right but in deadlock yeah theres only 40 chars so pickrates will always be kinda high
wait till theres 100
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>>561916854
no unstoppable is crazy work
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>>561915647
every month they made a post like that
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ive had a graves in 19/20 of my last games and in the 1 game she was banned
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hehe did you guys know.... I... le.... JERK OFF...!! HAHA YES I LE JERK OFF HAHA HAIRY PUSSY!!! I PLAY WITH MY.... PENIS WENIS HAHA :DDD PENIS WENIS! :DDD
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>>561917438
Heroes that say this?
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>>561917438
get to bed gramps yo penis aint work anymore
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>>561917438
based
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>>561917508
rem
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>>561916074
>throw the game bro
Honestly pretty based
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>>561917438
>>561917508
Drifter would say this
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Silence Wave is dealing too much damage at the moment, the effect is good enough by itself, it doesn't need to be a mini nuke for spirit builders
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>>561917630
nigga he has a bigger ego than any deadlock player ive ever seen here included
no shit he'd say throw the game
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>>561916293
i want to int you guys' games someday but i don't wanna stop queueing for street brawl
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how do you carry 0/10 teammates as seven
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>>561917838
lock in
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You shouldn't be stunned out of jumppads like out of zipline. In practice it means McGinnis has autostun if she just camps her turret there.
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>>561917815
>play Silver
>get the rainbow item
pottery
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Is Apollo the most "early game" hero in Deadlock? He's fun but I feel so little agency for the outcome of the match

You can sweat your balls off but an early lead and early kills don't matter if your carries still die in those late game fights
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>>561918039
yes he's the definition of win the game now or you do nothing later
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>>561917838
eat nine
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>>561918020
Rainbows are pretty
They shouldn't be held hostage by gayshit god damn it
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>>561918039
just buy utility late game lil gup
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>>561914915
neat
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how 2 shiv wall jump
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>>561917334
>>561917243
Doesn't really matter what you build, the hero is fucking worthless anyway.
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>>561918020
erm i was washing them all game so it was a win more button that time anyway
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>>561911782
>>561913989
>>561914915
Add Kromer pls Yoshi
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Usually, players express interest in a character and find them attractive and make sexy fanart or lust after them.
But in Deadlock, there is barely any solo fanart that's made for the sole purpose of being sexy.
Instead, we have a MASSIVE influx of shippers and fanart of characters together. It's not because of the character banter, because other games have that too and usually doesn't have a majority of that result in shipping in the fanbase.

It's really weirding me out and I don't want to associate with the community outside of a match.
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>I can't believe we were nervous about fighting THESE PEOPLE
what did Krill mean by this
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>>561918871
krill is unironically jewish
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>>561918862
theres a lot of sexy victor fanart
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I can't decide between Pyslocke's summer outfit on Mina or Mina and her buttplug.
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>>561918962
no he's not
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>>561918402
Right-click just before the jump
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>>561918474
if only Silver would spend some time washing herself
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>>561919173
yes he is nigga
>from brooklyn
>lives in tunnels
>does illegal shit
>abuses welfare
>greedy and frugal
like how much more jewish can you get? mo and krill are fuckin' jews, there's no doubt about it
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>>561919372
Does that make Mo a nigger allegory?
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>>561919101
Sure, but there's more pairing art than solo, especially how the devs have every female character save for a few lust after him in voicelines. Which might be the reason you have so much shipping in the community.
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>>561919431
It's shit and only viable on few heroes like Doorman who can use the escape.
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>>561918862
>It's really weirding me out and I don't want to associate with the community outside of a match.
What a snowflake pussy thing to say
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>>561919465
he is the golem
so basically
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>>561919285
while holding a movement key or no movement key
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>>561919431
i genuinely don't think i've seen someone have the item proc and actually cheat death (heh) and not just stall said death for a few seconds
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>>561918848
>next we're seeing her hag mom
I'm excited
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I haven't seen Silver in my games for days now. What happened?
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>get silver on enemy team instead
>win
It really is that easy huh
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>>561919431
Unless you're playing a hero with an escape baked into their kit (Lash, Mina, Doorman, Abrams) not really. It's kind of shit.
It's best used on Doorman, because he doesn't give a fuck about the debuffs once it's procs, he just wants you to get in the fucking door NOW.
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>>561919468
well the characters look good and people like seeing them interacting with each other beyond what is provided
the game doesn't have a lot of fanart still, just give it more time
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>>561919627
>>561919675
PLEASE stop bullying her...
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>>561919627
Monkey writing yada yada shakespeare...
Give it enough time and even baboons would learn to press space and hold s against her, or even worse, buy the dreadful active item(metal skin).
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>>561919565
It's busted on Doorman, where it guarantees him overextending to fish for a kidnap with web.
Don't think any other hero sees any use or value out of this item.
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>>561915935
Being a region hopping, smurfing slav.
Metro should be lynched.
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>>561918039
>soul leaders are Doorman and Apollo
What is this meta lmao
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>>561919627
>he's not playing silver
fake silverfag, you don't love her
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>>561919101
horrible fucking shoveling form, hurts my back just watching it, use your fucking legs more and stop bending at the waist SO FUCKING MUCH.
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Shiv dash should also shred Bullet Resist
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>>561918039
win lane, lose game
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>>561919431
Who would you even get it on aside from Doorman, Dynamo, and maybe Geist if the game goes 50 minutes
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>>561918862
Look bro, if you're well adjusted, you see these people for what they are. Terminally online, just ignore them, block them, mute them, and move on. Calling them faggots or niggers will rile them up usually, but it's honestly not even worth the effort, just act like they don't exist, they thrive on the attention.
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>>561919557
that's just fartnite's migu
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>>561920339
this tranny plays fartnite!
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>>561918862
Yeah agreed, maybe it's just me getting old, never understood the shipping faggotry, never understood why they would make their presence known here.
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>>561919557
oh helll nahhh bruh ts tranny AF
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>>561920130
I'm a Silverfag but I can't play her because I can't aim
Acknowledging my limits is better than bringing her a bad name by playing her badly
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>>561920339
>>561919557
tranny or not the colour pallette is forever tainted by them :(
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>>561920187
He does have a very fun lane
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Victor was specifically, painstakingly designed by the greatest minds on planet Earth to be the most compatible with the biggest drooling retards on this planet.
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>>561920130
I love Silver, I hate losing on her.
Right now she's incredibly weak.
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lets talk about Haze
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>>561909547
Does enough damage to trigger Spellbreaker, so a counter-counter.
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>>561921193
fair, honest character. A bit boring though
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>>561921183
i was gonna say that you misspelled venator but i got one earlier that was so bad he probably hit one person with his crossbow the entire game so i stand corrected
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>>561921183
hes the closest ill get to murky here
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>>561921193
Cringe, dishonest character. Extremely exiting however.
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>>561916909
>tower of trample mentioned
exceptional taste, i had to google who that was since the game gets update once every millennia
it's Lily and Swan for me
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>>561918039
just go melee and blast people for 3k after stunning them with riposte
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>>561921447
Since this is averaged out if I made a team with nothing but shit tier heroes could we get their win rates even lower?
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>>561921447
Silverchads we're on top!
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>>561921762
>rem, sinclair, holliday, paradox, shiv, bepop team
no doubt
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>>561921881
of my dick!
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>>561911976
Knockup removed from barrel and I am fine with any possible buff they come up with for her
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2 stack of legit brand new players, sucks that this shit is going to turn new people away from the game
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>>561922467
new player experience is horrible
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>>561922547
the experience is horrible, Valve cannot into matchmaking
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Abrams is such a god damn monkey, I should've played him sooner
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>>561922594
that doesn't say Seeker
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>>561922805
its so fun being a big dumb unkillable retard, I should play him more
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>>561922814
because I am not seeker.
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>>561921187
If you don't play the character you're a fake fan, i don't make the rules
>t. had a 30%~40% win ratio on graves pre buff
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>see a paige player being friendly in chat
>call them a tranny
>they crash out
everytime
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>>561923916
KING
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>>561918862
yeah and a lot of those artirsts don't even play it, they are just using it for likes and shit
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>>561923534
I would if I could but I just can't, I've never been able to aim and never will
Only way that leaves me to prove my devotion is writing
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the funniest argument about "LE WINRATES DON'T MATTER" is that blizzard publishes official winrate statistics for overwatch and you can see the same thing there, the overpowered characters dominate the game and have the highest winrates
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>>561924403
>blizzard
stopped reading there
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>>561924403
winrates don't matter is an arguement used by metaslaves to cope with being boosted.
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>>561920912
>what if all my abilities send me flying across the map
fun if you have adhd
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"winrates don't matter" is code for "i am trans"
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>>561924403
>blizzard
they somehow have worse balance patches that we do
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>>561923850
god i love Paige players
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>>561924865
Yeah you're probably right
Sure is a pity they can't fall back on any objective statistics to disprove these subjective statements huh
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It's quite funny because silver is extremely OP in terms of abilities, but her win rate is low because most players are so shit at aiming they can't even transform in time on her
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>>561925053
Win rate doesn't matter so she's not OP or UP
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delete sinclair
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>>561925472
its so funny because doorman is taking all the heat for that faggot
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>>561924368
I don’t really understand aiming as a factor with Silver. Can you really miss 2-3-1?
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it's incredible really, this entire game is just balanced around who can clear jungle the fastest or destroy walkers the fastest huh?
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>>561926126
balance?
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>>561925838
Yes
I miss lane harass, I miss bolas, I miss kicks, I don't hit full slams
With machine gun characters it's not so bad because there's another bullet after each one I miss, but with Silver I'm always off by a hair and I do no damage
It's the curse of the eternal aimlet but I made my peace with it a long time ago when I tried and failed to be a scout main
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>>561926126
walkers are just decoration, unless you're stunned or sitting on their fire attack they can't do anything to you, I don't even know if they take reduced damage if no troops are near it, tired of clearing a wave only to lose the walker anyway
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>have to use my entire kit+all actives to escape the enemy team chasing me as our team does ???????? grouped on the otherside of the map from urn with no walkers soaking farm in one lane together
>the passive agressive doorman still blames me
Queueing was a mistake.
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Game mode all about destroying boxes and collecting shit
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>>561926479
That's the normal mode though.
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TURN ON CNN! EIDO IS GETTING RAPED ON EU
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>>561926387
I'll deal with the hooligan.
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>>561926387
adding to this I think people that fivestack and don't get a sixth are some of the biggest faggots in gaming. They always blame the soloQ player, this happens when I'm against a fivestack+soloQ player too and they lose.
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>>561926731
I stopped playing with my friends altogether, I get my Deadlock fix in the mornings now. Random players might suck but at least I don't hear them bitch and moan for 30 minutes straight about how them going 0/14 is everyone's fault but theirs
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YEAH I IMPREGNATED SILVER AND THEN MARRIED HER
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?
FUCK YOU NIGGER
https://youtu.be/UpehLxKIhw8
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>>561927061
morning seems to be the only time the game is playable. Discord and it's consquences has been a disaster for online gaming. So glad I derank two divisions I sweat my ass of for just because I get put with selfish niggers who jerk each other off while the enemy six stack hard focuses me even if I'm behind because they know I'm the only one with a positive wr% in the lobby.
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>>561927181
I don't need to do anything, you're inflicting enough punishment on yourself
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>>561926708
>Open stream
>See pic rel
>struggle to exit stream because I'm too busy laughing
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buying dispell just to fuck over mirage is completely valid
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>>561926708
>>561927840
What has he said about EU as a region so far?
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>queue up for some brool to screw around
>victor, paige, wraith, celeste
>play the floor is lava for three rounds of rape instead
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>>561926126
i hate how 3 (three) minions can take almost half of the walker's health
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I dont mind if Euros dominate the scene to be honest
Give me a Notail over soulless bugs and attention void US esports any day of the week.
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>>561926708
why would you choose to play viscous with 150 ping
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>>561928047
Annoyed over mirage, which is a fair sentiment regardless of ping and region.
>>561928207
Except for last Night Shift where it was all pretty amusing, generally the NA scene has been more entertaining IMO. My rule though is that any region that plays lash is immediately the better one at that time.
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>>561928518
Isn't Eido's whole thing playing the busted OP heroes?
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Completely normal game of deadlock
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I've been watching both night shift regions pretty closely and while I dislike how EU is just russians vs russians the games are WAY more entertaining than NA's to watch.

Even the commentators mention how NA's games are lot safer and routine in comparison. The only thing NA's proscene has is that it's full of ecelebs
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>>561928895
Americans are retarded and bad at everything, they'd be just as bad at real sports if they didn't throw infinite money into minmaxing athletes. No one cares enough to do this in esports.
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>>561928815
All those characters would say this, for one reason or another
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>watching esports shittery instead of playing the game
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>>561915187
League API access:
>Recording literally every single match being played outside of china with fairly liberal usage policies
Deadlock API access:
>Incredibly spotty and heavily jewish with rate limiting to the point where ~3% of games are actually recorded automatically
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>>561928693
>plays Silver
you tell me anon
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>>561929247
97% of deadlock matches are bot matches, valve is just nice enough to filter those out for API users
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If you've ever pressed the parry key you should kill yourself.
Now.
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>>561929209
Unironically the thread talking about esports is infinitely better than screeching about balancing and "MY TEAM SUX!!!!!! I CLEARLY DON'T BELONG WITH THESE MONGOLS!!!"
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>>561929730
me unga
my team bunga
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>>561929652
abrams/billy/geist/viscous....
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>>561929652
TRUE
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Haze is Missing
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>Playing Lash
>My Kelvin is icepathing around for no good reason before a teamfight
>5 enemies below set up to get Death Slammed
>Perfect
>YER MI-
>A fucking Mo and Krill walks up from my left
>In mid fucking air
>On Kelvin's fucking icepath
>GET EM MO
>Ult cancelled
FGASDFSDGSDFHGFGDHFGDHBFSDBGSDFHGSDFHRSTHNSWTBRDH
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>>561929962
Good play by m&k
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>>561929652
This but unironically
Spirit and gun don't get punished anywhere near this bad
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>get parried from behind by someone running
I don't think they're cheating but my reactions must be ass, i can't even parry from the fornt
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>>561929962
they ACTUALLY just need to remove kelvin from the game
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>>561929852
This is indistinguishable from EU pro games
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>run away from enemy in lane
>he is bridge, I am almost back to stairs
>hear heavy melee
>no way it hits me
>hits me
kekw
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>>561928895
Because our culture is pussywhipped .
Even in our fucking video game tournies we cant help but try and tread the line carefully. Fucking pathetic losers. In my matches whenever I get into an argument it's always with some passive-aggressive schmuck with zero balls. A culture so scared of conflict wont take risks.
We're adventurous enough to where we're not mindless borgs like east asian teams but we're not mentally free enough to where we'll just say fuck it and try something unorthodox like a russian a few days before his deployment on the front.
It's why the japanese hate characters like Gief in street fighter who's known as a walking casino while the US will seethe in anger over zoners who require more than just safe setups to completely overcome. The culture is so important.
In Overwatch our best NA tank player was an unhinged weirdo who can't even finish a sentence who's a borderline Euro with his fucking accent. The other was some dude who got carried with bugmen as the DEI hire. You can't go halfway you need either that freedom like Gyro Diffusal or to be a fucking robot and win off of pure consistency.
Once we get NA players who say what's on their mind and aren't restricted like leashed cattle then we'll start picking up again but until then it's COOKED
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>>561929962
>play seven
>ult for the 2nd time in a match
>mohammed has phantom strike
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>>561929101
what country are you from
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>>561929852
4 retards fighting
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>>561929962
>playing lash
reddit meme man who is useless above ritualist because its the freest counterspell in the game
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>>561930295
>In Overwatch our best NA tank player was an unhinged weirdo who can't even finish a sentence who's a borderline Euro with his fucking accent
who?
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i buy egg as seven/victor and pop it at 20 minutes
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I've seen Emissary twice and both times I get curb-stomped, thank you Yoshi
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>>561930027
>melee is already the inherently weakest archetype
>there's an 800 soul item that counters melee harder than most 3200 soul items counter spirit/gun
How is this fair?
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This game is single handedly raising my blood pressure to hypertension levels.
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>>561930613
because melee is literally easy as fuck? you walk up to a guy, you hold down a button and it autoaims for you. its basically graves but every character has it
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>>561930730
ok then where is 800 item that counters spiritsissies as hard as rebuttal does melee?
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>>561930785
Extra stam
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>>561930785
right next to the 800 item that counters gun trannies. Or the 800 item that counters tank trannies

Almost as if melee isn't a real way to play the game
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>>561930863
>>561930893
I accept your concession
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>>561930382
Israel.
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>>561930493
>reddit meme man
But enough about doorman.
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you're response?
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>>561930730
I miss atleast half my heavies
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>>561931046
various slurs
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>>561931046
>TING
NOW MAURICE
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>>561931046
create graves aisloppa to jack off to afterwards
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>>561931046
gg shake my hand go next
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Now that we've determined that win rates don't matter, what really defines an overpowered hero?
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>>561931184
how much they annoy me personally
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>>561931184
whatever the retarded "pros" ARENT playing
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>>561931184
if i lose = op
if i win = op
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>>561931184
dps, utility, and cc output given the effort needed to play the character
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>>561931184
If they are able to carry the game or not
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Winrates don't matter so Mirage is weak and underpowered and needs further buffs.
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>>561931509
An escalating exposure buff would do a lot to drag some of these underpowered characters like mirage and kelvin out of the gutter
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>>561919548
the main "trick" with shiv's movement is that to get the most speed you want to M2 paralel to the direction you're actually moving. if you dash straight forward and slide you want to quickly shoot to your left or right before aiming "forward" again. if you drop off a zipline you want to M2 to your left/right from whatever direction the zipline sent you at, ect
because wall jumps naturally bounce you at this sort of angle, you literally just want to M2 and walljump immdately afterwards and it'll naturally work out to be this same angle

TLDR: if you're asking this question, don't move when walljumping
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>>561931184
Whatever I lose to
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Buff Rem. I'm no longer asking.
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https://deadlockmods.app/mod/626127
>Broken
:(
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>>561931769
rem is really bad game design. they made him a support, so the lowest skill players pick him, but you need good macro to get decent value out of rem which they don't have
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>>561931620
you mean perpendicular right
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>>561931184
how often they get picked and banned in pro play.
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>>561931046
I smile because they're on my team.
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>>561931901
yeah I guess I do lmao
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How is everyone feeling about the current patch? like out of 10 how balanced are we looking right now
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>>561931969
actually I think I know what you mean , you can do it perpendicular for the angular slides but parralel (in the opposite direction) for straight forward movement
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>>561932059
better than the last one, still genuine dogshit that leaves me with no hope for the future of the game with these devs/10
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>>561932059
3/10
march 6th patch was a 1/10
patch before that was a 8/10
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>>561932059
8
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>>561932059
buff graves
idc if shes 60% wr in eternus
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>>561932323
in all ranks*
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>>561931878
That's true and the main reason his winrate is such shit, but he's also just weak compared to other supports. His winrate in eternus is terrible too and he's barely picked in """pro""" play. He's just an ult bot that spams items. His ult is slightly less shit now that they put unstoppable back on it when channeling (though it's now gated behind T3 instead of T2 because fuck this little rodent I guess).
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>>561932376
>because fuck this little rodent I guess
facing Rem up against the wall and the gutshotting the back of his little chud head hehe
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in 2026, running urn can be a depressing time for doormen in your game. Don't blame them if they avoid the urn fight entirely as they take a break and remember what was lost.
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they need to add rocket racoon to deadlock so healsissies can just sit in the backline shooting healing orbs and get good value during teamfights
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>>561930131
i'd report it
too many sus people who will blind parry from behind or parry lights with no giveaway
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>>561932610
that would add thousands upon thousands of players, at the small cost of ruining the game
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>>561932059
Like a 7, maybe lower. The top tiers aren't too broken outside of Mirage when played by someone actually good. Game was still in a mostly better state before this set of patches though.
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>>561932610
Add Mercy
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>>561932576
i'll miss this
but real niggas remember back when ivy could grab the urn and fly away to the other side of the map in like 10 seconds
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>>561932750
metaslave/gravestroon spotted, opinion disregarded
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Win lane throw game Mina main
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What exactly is the 25% extra souls buff from the urn?
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>>561932059
I'd give it a 6 objectively, but I'm in shitter elo where pretty much anything is viable if you're good enough. The most recent patch was mostly a step in the right direction, the 3/6 patch was two weeks of actual hell and I can't believe I didn't just uninstall during that period.
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>>561932859
Graves has a high winrate because she's good and easy not because she's a server admin hero like the half a dozen giga buffed heroes we had weeks back.
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>>561933017
uh huh
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Mirage buffs when? He is unplayable bad rn
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When are we getting a pajeet hero? No Mirage doesn't count
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>>561933094
Seven has a higher winrate in E4+ now by the way why aren't you talking about him? Shouldn't he be incredibly oppressive? Haze has about the same WR as Graves in all ranks but you're not melting down if someone says she isn't more powerful than Calico was at the start of the month.
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>>561932059
8/10 but graves meta immediately knocks it down to 4/10, she's that annoying and she should never be strong
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>>561933302
Infernus
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>>561933352
>Seven has a higher winrate in E4+ now
you start off with a lie... shameful troon
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>>561912464
>parry
>their heavy goes through my body and destroys the crypt
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>>561932085
you can get away with doing it opposite how you're moving but it's way worse, I just fucked up my elementary school math terms
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>>561932814
>viscous can STILL fucking run urn in less than 10 seconds without anyone even being able to stop him because he'll just stun you if you get close enough to melee and then he cubes ontop of the souls to make sure they don't get denied
>doorman can't portal
>ivy can't fly
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>>561933352
I find it funny that people try and distinguish between eternus ranks like this
Protip: you're 0.1% of the population anyway, there is no difference between you faggots
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>>561933591
shitlowGOD
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I main Seven, except I dont play him right now because he is really bad. Win rates dont matter and they arent real. Buff Seven
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>silver is a bounty hunter
>no skill that gives her extra souls on kills
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>>561933772
only niggerco gets that... just BECAUSE OK!
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>>561933671
No, seriously. It's like that picture with how indians will differentiate themselves between their castes while actual people just see a jeet
>no sar i am high caste e4
>saar i am better i am e6 very white and trustworth
No, faggots, you're all eternoids with 0.1% difference and nobody gives a fuck about any of you
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>>561932576
WHAT THE
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>>561933478
We're using different websites, and yours doesn't have a filter for the newest patch, which slightly nerfed Graves. Even in your image Seven has a 2% worse winrate than Graves. I'm not even arguing Graves shouldn't be nerfed, they've made the easy to play hero too good, but that we're not in a rapist meta like at the start of the month.
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>>561933678
this post got beamed out of my skull wtf
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>>561933772
She's poor pls understand
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>lowest damage in the game as Mina
I will get good at her at some point right?
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>>561934034
refuse to play her and whine for buffs
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>>561933591
I just use it for reference when arguing about hero strength because otherwise people go lol all ranks/Phantom and above/Ascendant and above/Eternus of course shitlow players can't counter [hero of the patch] only high ranks/REAL high ranks matter.
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another day of playing honest gun graves :)
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they need to add a naafiri like dog hero that can go in the vents and if you run into rem in there you should be able to knot him!
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>>561934034
I played Mina for two weeks straight and worked on my movement and aim and I'm still dogshit at her
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>>561934183
>because otherwise people go lol all ranks/Phantom and above/Ascendant and above/Eternus of course shitlow players can't counter [hero of the patch] only high ranks/REAL high ranks matter.
Yeah, that's what's funny. Nothing against you posting it. They've always got some new nebulous cope about how these ranks with 0.1% difference matter so much, anything so they can duck the statistic at hand and provide their own subjective "proof" instead
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>>561932059
I miss Haze and Wraith meta, at least those niggers have to be in your face when killing you, most of the time Graves just put insane lane pressure from behind the lines or in team fights with little risk.
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do you ever play so bad you feel embarassed
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another day of smurfing on urinelow shitters with mina :))))
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>>561934539
Sometimes...
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>>561934034
Mina generally won't top damage because you do largely single target dps and often just play around bursting singular targets unless it's a stomp and you get fed.
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>>561934539
I like Dynamo and Lash but few heroes have the potential for a big "I MADE A RETARDED MISTAKE" when it comes to their ults.
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>>561911976
sinclair wand feels like absolute shit to me
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>>561931006
Why are you shittalkting your own country then?
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>>561931769
>strong ult, can push waves and steal sinners better then anyone else on the roster and he has a stron heal and a small nuke on top
What more do u want?
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>>561934539
No I just blame my team for not doing what I didnt say to do and pretend that's why I have 20 deaths
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>>561911983
inhib fucks up his damage and lifesteal while most other carries don't care about lifesteal that much
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>>561934539
Me everytime I play Holliday
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>>561933772
I'd prefer if she got extra stats like Vindicta because it really would alleviate her fucking rigid build path and that she has little room for flex/utility
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>>561933829
>just BECAUSE OK!
SHE'S A CONTRACT KILLER, RETARD, OK??!
>>561933772
I hate silverfag and don't think she needs a buff
but this is a good idea from a theme perspective, especially since she's already heavily geared towards fights
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>>561933772
This is gay on Calico I don't want it on her or any other hero.
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>>561934539
>Feel exhausted because bad sleep/long day/whatever
>hop onto street brawl for mindless pissing around
>Get put in a lobby with the sweatiest motherfuckers in the region
>Get flamed by entire team after loss because I played like a retarded casual in the retarded casual gamemode
And this is happening more and more often. Give me my sub-100 IQ brainlet kino mode back.
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>wraith is a gambler
>no minigame to wager souls on an in-game version of polymarket
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Has anyone ever used Shiv M2 to deal more damage
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>be sinclair
>1v2 vs silver and doorman
>doorman low so steal his ult and nuke his ass
>juke silver with assistant until she transforms
>send her to baroness
>as she leaves a bunny hex and two bolts meet her dumb mug killing her instantly
boner inducing
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>>561935707
me when he was released to finish kills couldnt figure out why a finisher like that would exist and seemed stupid to stop my momentum
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>>561935471
can we stop adding permanent scaling and anti-catch up mechanics to heroes
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>>561935667
They should make contracts where you put souls on taking a guardian/walker/urn/mid boss by X minutes and if you're killed you drop the contract and it can be taken by anyone with a heavy melee.
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>>561935707
No reason not to use it if you're on your last bullet.
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>>561935764
setting up max damage bolts on baroness exits is peak
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>>561935240
His ult is good again now that they gave it back built-in unstop. Definitely the strongest part of his kit. Unfortunately for him, every other support also has a godlike ult so it doesn't make him stand out that much. Otherwise, I don't know how to say this nicely: everything else on his kit becomes shit at higher elos.
>wave shoving is useless when people learn how to actually lane clear efficiently and have good macro, you're spending more time doing it than the enemy will spend killing your buffed creeps, at most you're an annoyance
>stealing sinners is strong but the better teams are at getting to them as soon as they spawn the more useless that utility becomes since they can just melee your helpers off then chase you down, at high elos you'll just get jumped if you try to steal doubles at 8 minutes
>pillow "nukes" are a meme and complete ass, Ivy and Kelvin spec into damage hybrid builds much better without sacrificing their utility as supports
And it should go without saying but if Rem is only really that impactful at low elos, you'd be better off just playing Kelvin 24/7 if you really want to play support in shitlow (the elo where every third game has a leaver so it's unwinnable especially on support).
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>>561935892
Still slows you down during a chase even if you use Fleetfoot
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I need a tail job from Vyper
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>>561935764
Sinclair is the funniest character in this game
at the peak of doorman FOTM after buffs I just played sinclair every game and stole door to use it on every fucking retard picking up doorman for the first time
taste of your own medicine
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>>561935994
In shitlow it also encourages the greedy goblin playstyle of "yo just need 10k more" as your team gets raped during the thievery.
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>>561934539
>play dynamo or support ivy
>fuck up colossally with a rescue beam like dragging our carry into a lash ult or something
I simply erase it from my memory after the match.
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>>561934539
I play Viscous and sometimes you ruin an entire fight with a bad cube or puddle punch.
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is there really no patch happening in april?
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Maybe the forced loss schizos are right.
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Is it true that Silver is weak to anal?
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Tips of letting go as lane janny and accepting all your walkers will get raped minute 20 with the Graves/Rem being as is?
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>>561935994
rem is an active item slut just buy and spam them over and over
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No one even plays Silver in my pisslow Ritualist
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>>561936419
Yeah but she doesn't enema beforehand
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>>561936419
She pisses herself whenever someone sticks it up there.
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>>561936418
BUT YOU OWE THEM THE REST OF THE 30 MINUTES THOUGH
NO SURRENDERING ALLOWED :\
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>>561936454
Yeah I said that earlier, it's part of why he's bad. He just spams active items and ults. Nothing else in his kit scales into high elos and he has no other utility or contribution to his team. I say "buff rem" but there's no fixing his kit. It's fun to use but it sucks.
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>>561936615
It ended at 21 minutes, the enemy team didn't derp around and dunk the urn 4 times before realising they could win.
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>>561936431
Graves is kind of bad at splitpushing because the zombies die easily, Rem is more annoying because of the move speed buffs he gives troopers so they're constantly crashing into your towers. Buy monster rounds.
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I haven't played in a while but what the fuck did they do to pocket.
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I like playing Dynamo. He's fun and I like stomping and ulting and healing for teamfights.
His teleport can actually save your team if you're about to get shat on, which is also nice.
Heroic aura and maxing out your stomps is so much fun to do
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>>561936418
a "schizo" is simply just someone who hasn't been proven right yet
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>Reactive barrier doesn't get triggered by Apollo ult
Alright
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>>561936690
Even with 3 oranges early game including mr it takes a mag dump for zombies to die. Why the fuck are they so much more tanky than turrets when they can move and explode instantly.
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>>561936665
It's alright you could have chungus capped like 4 urns and made the big comeback
Venator almost hit his 10 death powerspike
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>>561936763
not sure if being slowmo counts as movement locked
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Every single Mina main in this thread, you owe me sex.
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>>561936418
>apollo completely out of control
>One (1) slowing hex has been bought by the other team

sasuga
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>>561936863
It's probably the worst designed laning hero in the game unironically
You need two gun cores both with rounds or Rem basically gets perma prio putting his buff on the ranged creep. It's about as degenerate as it gets. Maybe at higher elos you can get a rotation but good fucking luck lol
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If i counterspell doormans ulti on the exit does it count for the refresh?
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>>561936919
It's not slowmo though, you can't press movement abilities like mina 2.
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>>561937014
If you counterspell it without getting to the exit, yes. If you counterspell it and get to the exit, no.
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>>561937014
the only way to avoid refreshing his cooldown is by making it to the end. You WILL buy warpstone or stamina mastery.
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>>561937014
Failure to check out lowers his CD. You can fail but still Counterspell the damage.
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Graves zombies should damage you for shooting them.
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>>561936934
Slowing hex feels shit against Apollo.
>oh no he has to wait 3 seconds before continuing his flawless advance

I was planning to grab disarm but the game spiralled and I just sort of forgot.
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>>561936732
Bless Dynamo enjoyer
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>>561936863
Because they're slow and easy to kite, I don't know what hero you're playing that needs their entire magazine to kill one zombie though.
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Graves zombies should be spirit linked to her so she starts moaning and pissing and groaning when you kill them.
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>>561937130
Ghouls inheriting green items sounds like a good buff, ship it
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>>561937014
it's actually so fucking bullshit that you can't counterspell the actual hotel part. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to do by reaction anyways, so doorman should be punished if his high skill dash forward + ult combo gets called out.
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>>561937041
because you're CURSED bro
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>>561936418
eomm is over a decade old, im at this level when it comes to rigged matchmaking conspiracies
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>>561930295
>FGC troon worships fireball spamming gooks
lol
Genuinely 100% sure this poster is on estrogen
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>>561937229
Most heroes who don't spec gun probably have a hard time though not buying monster rounds vs graves is dumb
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>>561937320
>reducing reaction times
is this an AI article
how is sony nerfing my reaction time? are they injecting me with SSRIs when I queue up against a shitter on a loss streak?
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>Rem helper crawls down your urethra as he ruffles you
>"They do lots of things"
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>>561937436
Dynamic ping increase.
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>>561937205
why do you think disarming hex will do anything against the character who's entire kit is just non-stop spamming abilities?

Slowing hex literally stops 3/4 of his abilities.
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>>561936690
>Graves is kind of bad at splitpushing
We've reached new levels of downplay never before thought possible
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>>561935892
it delays your reload
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How to fix Deadlock
>Green items removed
>On top of existing bonuses, heroes now receive +60 max HP and +2% Debuff/Bullet/Spirit Resistance for each boon
>+2 Stamina and +18% Stamina Recovery to every hero
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had a match that pissed me off so bad im blowing bubbles
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>>561937683
cringe bro. cringe
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>>561937683
>Remove apollo
>Remove rem
>Remove graves

Fixed that for you.
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>>561937713
Pretty bubbles in the air
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>>561936863
pretty sure monster rounds does jack shit to zombies besides the innate weapon damage buff from buying it, it doesn't work on miku turrets
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>>561937854
where's inerfnus
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>>561937683
now do it for oranges
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>>561937658
She's good at pushing, she's bad at splitpushing because putting her ult down and walking away is a waste unless there's no one who can respond and defend the objective.
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>>561937854
You forgot Celeste, last batch of heros was awful for this game's balance.
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>>561933678
>Win rates dont matter and they arent real.
True
>Buff Seven
I've seen pros say he's bad but why? He has a little bit of everything and can just shit out dmg on command
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>>561938013
getting hit with knockdown is bad game feel
I shouldn't ever have my main character power fantasy interrupted
any character that can be interacted with is by definition bad
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>>561938013
Seven is a 100% fair hero with no bullshit you can abuse, therefore he's bad according to "pros" (bug and exploit abusers)
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>>561938013
Seven’s ult can be easily countered if the enemy team knows to buy knockdown. Plus seven doesn’t have any movement tools
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>>561938013
Seven is slow as fuck and gets raped by catch characters super hard
Taking away his zoom scaling was the worst thing they couldve done to him
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>>561938013
Most of what makes him good, other M1s just do better. He's still strong though, obviously.
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>>561933575
>viscous can STILL fucking run urn in less than 10 seconds without anyone even being able to stop him because he'll just stun you if you get close enough to melee and then he cubes ontop of the souls to make sure they don't get denied
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only bullshit thing about seven is his big lingering fat balls that were perfectly fine before the rebalance
even his point n click stun gives you plenty of time to schmove away and can be counterspelled
>>561937987
shit autoplay heroes
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>>561935994
>>561936621
I think Rem has the least scaling in the game. Compare Dynamo and Rem's scaling
>Dynamo is tankier
>Dynamo's gun scales more
>Dynamo's 1 has stronger damage scaling
>Dynamo's heal is an AOE, Rem's is one target at a time
>Dynamo's ult does multiple ticks of damage for Escalating Exposure, Rem's is a single damage instance
Because of that, the build I've been refining down for Rem right now looks like
>Spend a little on damage for laning
>Cheat Death + Magic Carpet to be hard to kill
>Spend everything else on CC items, or stuff that synergizes with it like T. Cooldown
It seems to work well but it's funny that the best Rem strategy I can come up with is to just economically support your teammates by never deliberately farming and buying all the CC items in the shop so they don't have to
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>get dbd players in my game
>to no surprise we lose swiftly
I don't know how these people make it to ascendant. I feel like anything below eternus is just a toss up of random people in various ranks, because these people did not know how to play the game.
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how do you stop a Yamato that's starting to snowball? I had some retards chasing her 24/7 and feeding her a million kills, do I just curse her before she ults and pray?
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>>561936863
>Why the fuck are they so much more tanky
They've always been easy to kill, more so after they were nerfed, at what point in the game is this? What hero were you playing and what items were you buying?
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>>561937625
For Drifter and Wraith, and gun Paige.
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>>561937969
This is poor macro.
You put the ult down for a free split push and go fight, you either fight a 6v6, and win or lose you are guaranteed a walker, or a player is forced to defend vs the tombstone and you fight a 6v5.
she does not need her ult for teamfights because her gun and passive are her strongest parts of her kit.
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>>561937683
>+2% Debuff/Bullet/Spirit Resistance for each boon
>70% Debuff/Bullet/Spirit Resistance at max level
>>561937854
>remove dorkman
fixed that for you
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>>561938385
Pretty much. It's funny they give him the ability to greed sinner's, a good rem should basically always be broke as shit because all you need to be useful is duration + cd + whatever 4 actives suit the match best. Literally nothing else you can do to impact the game after 30 minutes because you just get outscaled. I still like playing him but he's gotten a lot less fun the higher I've climbed in elo.
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>>561938410
I don't think there's genuinely anything more depressing in this game than seeing an obviously DbD coded name on your team
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>>561938385
just buy Torment Pulse, Healbane, Echo Shard and bounce between your teammates the entire fight, you don't need to become tankier when you can just become impossible to hit
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>>561937248
w-why pissing?
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>>561938429
Just force your team to stack Healbane and Toxin Bullets.
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Hooved hero when?
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>>561938671
>Torment Pulse, Healbane, Echo Shard
That requires having teammates that group up and push to be useful, with Carpet + Cheat Death I can cut wave right outside their base and fly away when someone comes to kick my ass
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>>561938671
the survivability isn't for fights but for tard pushing a lane
rem can buy push items and threaten two lanes at once because helpers. its a pretty strong and probably the most impactful way to play him. if they ignore you, you take two objectives. if they send two people to stop you and your helpers, your team is playing 5v4 and can force whatever play they want
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>>561938626
>You put the ult down for a free split push and go fight
1-She doesn't have a teleport like mirage so she needs to go to a lane pushed to her team kill all minnons move forward a bit and the put down a tombstone only to then zipback to base then to wherever the teamfight is happening and all of this in your imaginary scenario has to be timed perfectly
2-after you kill the minnons the wave will automatically push to the other side and crash, this has been figured out ever since mobas were created
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>>561938895
https://deadlockmods.app/mod/655209
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>>561938654
>DbD coded name
how does one detect them? i don't know anything about the game other than it sucks
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C&C!
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>>561938385
i remember when everyone was dooming about rem because of the small hitbox making him hard to hit, the tunnels and the familiars on sinners
turned out to be the worst of the new heroes once the dust settled, and the vest part about the helpers was the at large overlooked creep buffs
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>>561938626
Yeah fair enough, but there's still a lot of the game where Graves is still significantly weaker without her ult even when you're running a gun build, whereas Rem doesn't have to worry so much about throwing troopers out.
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post 'em
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>"Sex with Graves"
>"Pedo detected, solo dynamo ult target acquired"
We won of course but you'd think the Graves is a child meme was meme but it happens
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>people say abrams is dumb and op
>I dont play him for a long time
>he gets nerfed, people start talking about him
>decide to actually play him
>he's really fun
>charge is one of the funniest abilities in the game
>charging a dynamo and he stomps me so I fly over him
>seven is ulting so I wall jump up and charge him out of the sky
>I charge while bebop uppercuts me so we both go flying
yes, fun hero
also I'm not listening to what any of you have to say about a hero ever again
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>>561938954
(You)
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>>561939167
what even is that thing
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>>561939081
His nigger tone, upright posture and fat head make him a pretty easy target actually. I have a pretty hard time with Ivy's slouch.
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>>561939225
I already learned the hard way from yordles back in league
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>>561939298
troon/furfag mod
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>>561939059
The most obvious tell is usually "Hex: [whatever]" anything else will usually need you to know a bit more about the game, mostly along the lines of some garbage like "Ace's Bussy Buddy" (an actual name I saw, they fed hard)
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>>561938645
Hitting the one guy who overextended in the late game with the knockdown -> curse -> nap time 10 second stun combo is fun, at least
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>>561939225
Any woman under 25 is a child, chud.
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>>561939298
serperior paige naked sexo
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>>561939332
Sex with Yordle
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this game SUCKS
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>>561939494
5
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>Bebop and Sinclair on my team end a 30 minute match with an egg in their inventory
They literally didn't sell it. We lost a thirty minute long game and they just had the fucking egg in their inventory, they didn't get the money, they didn't get the stats, they literally just willingly nerfed themselves for 10% damage for the entire game. And this was in a fucking PHANTOM 2 LOBBY
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>>561939419
25!?
try 30, cradle robber! a 25 year old can't even consent, let alone enjoy sex
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>>561939262
(me) :D
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>>561939494
1
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>>561939494
Average.
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>>561939494
1, on a related note, how do i counter this asshole? even if i rush stamina mastery locket and counter spell i can't 1 vs 3 as soon as i come out of the rape dimension , and that's assuming i check out and then counterspell all the carts/bells after.
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>>561939732
Like Mo & Krill, if he's got you then you're already dead
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>>561939732
you scream as loud as you can into your mic and hope your team rotates faster than his team rotates
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>>561939732
I Stone Form and win so I don't know how to help.
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>>561939732
stay away from him and dont be at a spot where being doorman ulted is bad

basically just be with your team
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>>561939494
1, fuck you
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>>561939732
if you're struggling against current doorman there's nothing i can tell you besides "git gud"
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>infernus ults
>i die
>before i respawn, he ults again
>once i respawn, he's ulting again
>no cd items
the fuck?
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this time its for real im taking victor out of my roster
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>>561939732
If you have a hero with i-frames (dynamo, Ivy, whatever) you can use that ability half a second before his ult ends to start invincible at coming out of the gay baby jail.

If you don't then sorry you're need to keep a constant lookout for him, maybe get silencer and throw it in his face and try to nuke.
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>>561938963
ew
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>>561940271
a 90 sec cd is not that long
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>>561940271
some characters get to ult every fight, some dont
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>>561940312
tired of getting free wins you BOOSTED GORILLA?!?! FUCK YOU!!!
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Where are the Silver buffs? What takes them so long?
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>>561938963
HORSE PUSSY HORSE PUSSY HORSE PUSSY
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>>561940402
After they figure out how to fix Graves
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>>561940394
the wins are worthless
the losses frustrating
as much as i love victor playing him is the antithesis of fun right now
farting around the map with rem is better than this torture
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>>561940639
I don't get why they started meddling with Graves. She was A-B tier before they started to changed and buff her and was strong already if you had brains. She was honest and balanced, now every shitter picks her to win. I hate Yoshi.
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>>561940459
Celeste donut or Silver cookie?
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>>561940980
cookies are kinda yuck give me donut
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>>561940941
She was the worst hero in the game before they buffed her but that was because they buffed almost everyone else.
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>Venator feels fun to fight and fair to die
>Graves is a miseryfest from beginning to end
How can they add good heroes and absolute dogshit heroes at the same time, do they just throw a dart at a wall or what's the thought process
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>>561906017
>>561906162
Yamato needs a good model. If she does, watch. So many people will flock trying to play the game.
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Next patch will finish the map, add more and actually good objectives, balance the game perfectly, deliver a bunch of remodels, and a couple kit reworks that are honest good and balanced.
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>>561938946
Bro, helpers fall off IMMEDIATELY at 20 minutes, and I'm being generous.
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Shiv does fucking nothing but maybe own one person if he sticks around and lets himself get shived four times
Then Shiv does nothing but run around and draw fire from retards because he's out of shivs
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>>561940402
Look at those werewolf tits
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>>561941743
then buy the gun recharge item
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>>561941709
...?
they "fall off" at 5 minutes when the opponent hits their first 4.8k + monster rounds
they never lose the effect of pushing a lane all the way to their base and collecting 2x the amount of boxes (the hardest scaling income source) you normally could
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>>561941383
Because Venator was supposed to release with Mina and the rest, every hero besides him in this latest batch has been cancer to fight in some form
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>>561941743
>tank does nothing except shred healthbars with knives, force dispel out for other DOT characters, tank all aggro, live forever, shred spirit res, and apply anti-heal
This is enough for me to be happy
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>>561941383
>Summoner
>Auto-Aim
>Debuff built into her kit
>Easy to land root with a way too high hitbox
>Ultimate that auto-pushes lanes too.
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just admit you hate graves because you hate women having an accesible character to play and have fun with
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>>561936267
You are literally me
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>>561942032
I hate graves because she's not an anthro chick
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toxic meta slaving community you all suck you deserve whatever you get
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>>561942032
Thats what they made Rem for tho
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>>561942032
They can have their character but said character should NEVER be higher than B tier
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>>561939253
Did anybody say he wasn't fun to play?
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>>561939225
Sometimes I wonder if there's a psyop to render pedophile a meaningless term.
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>>561941383
GODpoo hero vs icefraud hero
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>>561942074
My favourite is hitting wall as mcginnis, not realizing you're about to get silence waved and as the wall goes max distance PERFECTLY blocks off your carry (who is of course carryign a 3k bag) into a 3v1 and thus losing the game.
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>>561941709
then get really good again at 35
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when is hotpoo adding him?
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What if they reverted Victor to his launch day and mechanics, but gave him a 5-0m range chainsaw instead of a staple gun?
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I think she needs buff that make her retard proof so situations like this can be avoided
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>>561942359
Hotpoo retard made the travesty that is victor so nah, fuck that guy
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>>561942079
Waiting for more monstergirls/furry mods
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>>561942527
a good start would be using a non meme build
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>>561942518
Launch day Victor received nerfs a few hours after release
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>>561941709
helpers let you fix a wave in just one wave clear, while everyone else need 2 clears. saves 25 seconds which lets you go do other things
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>>561942614
Yeah, but what if they reverted to his completely un-nerfed version?
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>>561942518
He would just completely dominate the game again, and the 5m range chainsaw might genuinely be a better gun than the staplegun for farming purposes, which is all you used the gun for.
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>>561934539
if you play as warden and infernus you need to get used to trying to use ult early on and not hitting anyone
but once I saw a lash try to pull my entire team inside his base while we were ending, once when we got there and another when we were finishing the patron and both times we hit a pillar
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>>561941383
>Venator
>Fun to fight
He's worse that graves.
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>>561942894
just dont stand next to a wall, how hard is that?
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>>561942939
>just don't be in 3/4ths of the map
Uh...
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>>561940706
cant be worse than apollo where you need to carry the early game despite your subhumans trying to throw every advantage you give them

you just do nothing late game as apollo it's sad
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>>561943003
his shotgun range is like 7 meters, just stay more than 17 meters away from him
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>Remove Graves/Rem/Victor
>Remove counter-spell
>Add 2 item slots for actives only
>Buff walker hp and make them more reliable
>Add global voice-chat during pauses
>Add drafting
>Add EU/Russian specific servers
>Inform players if their suspected cheater got banned
Now the game is in a playable state. If anyone have the ear of the devs please forward this.
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>>561943087
victor is worthless late game now too
hes bad in every stage
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>>561940941
>She was A-B tier before
This anon is posting from another dimension lmao
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>>561941383
>>Venator feels fun to fight and fair to die
Yeah i love it when i either get executed or take 2.7k dmg, very fucking fair and fun, oh and the traps+shotgun combo so fucking especially before the nerf when it was a guaranteed one shot on cooldown
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>>561943362
just stay more than 7 meters away from him, and when he ults (very loud) just dont be within LOS. This is very common stuff in this game
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>>561942527
>anon ints and wants the devs to fix it
Sry breh you need to get good, nice rapid fire tho
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People who play Vindicta in street brawl need to be castrated.
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>>561943362
If don't find dodging his God arrows fun while the church bells then what hero do you possibly enjoy fighting.
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>>561943442
this wrks for literally every hero
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/dlg/ hasn't caught up with hybrid gun carry victor I see
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>>561943486
This but Mcginnis, she instantly ruins any street brawl match she is in.
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>>561943548
Yeah so why complain about Venator while saying Graves is better when they have the same argument for being balanced and fair to fight >>561942894
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>>561943504
Finding him cool=/=finding him fair
>what hero do you possibly enjoy fighting.
Bullying vindicta with anvil has always been and always will be fun
>mfw got 4 team members to buy anvil
>mfw when she wants to flame but is holding it back
Easiest hero to bully through counter picking, followed by bebop
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>>561911976
They really should do something about Silver's initial shoot delay after action, sometimes I'm standing there a full second before shooting after boot kick.
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coming back to this game after a while


so they just made doorman take zero skill? wtf
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>>561943121
Why would you want counterspell removed? Its one of the most fun items items in the game and also very beloved by most of the community for being fun to use. Are you just a butthurt lash main?
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>>561943679
>4v1 with anvils is a fun fight
Aite
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*whiffs vindicta ult* it's ovah :)
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>>561943754
Yes
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>that feeling in the pit of your stomach when your rem doesn't start boosting troopers at 3min
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FACT: graves is polish.
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>>561943887
(jew)
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pretty cool how yoshi puts braindead street broolers who don't even know what a moba is into ritualist games, great use of my time and energy
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>>561944002
my fault unc
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>graves
>summons a grave
ok
>ivy
>summons ivy vines
i get it
>seven
>>>>doesn't 8 9
is yoshi braindead? And then he adds drifter, a hero that doesn't drift but eats people, seriously just name drifter 7 and make hime 8 9
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*farts in your lane*
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>>561944095
he summons the seventh element of the deadlock universe
electricity
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Its cool how the only item that interacts with vindicta is a t4 green that only 3 characters want to actually buy
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>>561944194
if you can't shoot the slowly floating blob in the air go download aimlabs
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>>561943972
FALSE.
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>>561943768
For me it is, for her it must be miserable, also
>4vs1
We just focus the anvils on one person, usually her doesn't mean we're always ganging up on her, it's mostly fun because she doesn't get to fly anywhere since everyone has an anvil
>>561943738
Just buy 20%+ fire rate for 1600, no I'm not trolling
>inb4 i don wanna :(
Ok then suffer
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>>561944247
>just play m1ggers
No! Yet another reason to add draft tho
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>>561943972
>slandering best girl
Fuck you
>>561944194
Your anvil?
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>>561944194
your anvil? your disarming? your curse? your sharpshooter? your inhibitor? your silencer?
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>>561944282
>just waste a slot and tempo on an early game stomper that falls off later because of a bug
kek, valvedrones are something else
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>>561944392
shut up nigga
*steals your sinners to imbue mystic reverb on pillow toss*
*gets killed instantly without ulting*
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>>561944413
>cries about a problem
>cries when offered a solution
Many such cases
>bug
Context?
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>>561944487
>solution
the bug being fixed is the solution
>context
retard
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Someone said Silver
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>>561943442
>just stay more than 7 meters away from him
nta but easier said than done when half the map is tight corridors, everyone is hyper mobile and able to quickly reposition on you, there are tools to turn your 7 meter range into 9 meters, and potentially 1-5 other people whose stuff you also have to avoid WHILE playing The Walls Are Lava
Gut Shot is anti-fun and honestly just an OP Abrams charge
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>>561944574
Weak to anal sex.
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>>561944586
>everyone is hyper mobile and able to quickly reposition on you
everyone literally has the same movement tech. git good
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>>561944586
Just stay more than 7 meters away from him, the same way you stay 15 meters away from Graves and she isnt a problem anymore. How hard is that?
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>>561944574
puffy in heat cookie
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KEVIN BEEEEEAAAAAAAMU
*applies 3 trillion percent slow and fire rate decrease*
*applies mystic slow*
*applies supressor*
*applies healbane*
*applies bullet resist shredder*
*stacks max escalating exposure*
*ricoches to your whole team*
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>>561944762
his beam is 1% the strength of graves gun
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>>561944762
Just stay more than 25 meters away from him and buy dispel magic bro
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>>561944762
why the FUCK does this nigger beam claim souls?
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>>561944520
Double retard who takes it up the ass
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>>561944953
calling me a fag (projecting) does not change the fact that Valve hates Silver, or doesnt care at all for her and those of us who actually play her at best
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>Mirage be like:
>don't let him get LoS or he'll doomstack you with his Arabiaids
>just don't be visible the entire game
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>>561945016
your shadow weave sis?
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>>561944672
built for massive litters of dumbshit halfblood werewolf atrocities against nature
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>>561944672
That sounds disgusting, can we calm down with the beastiality?
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>>561944852
>"don't worry guys we nerfed his damage"
>now gains free spirit during ice path that translates to more damage
amazing
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>>561945016
just buy dispel magic and stack damage high enough that his -35% damage reduction doesnt matter, also just use cover bro
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i think we should be able to have multiple of the same characters on the same team and enemy team. this way more people could play who they want instead of someone they're not good with
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>every street brawl game i get two supports who do nothing, usually viscous trying to punch meme build
their role weighing system fucking sucks
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>>561945107
imagine 6 victors
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>>561945107
>6 dynamos belly bumping and stunlocking and relocating one another infinitely
FUCK no
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>8 games today
>5 of them had dynamo
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>>561945272
just buy counterspell and parry them
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>>561945272
just jump over it bro
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>>561945320
Infernus and Dynamo are stomping lobbies right now but no one cares yet because Graves is just that OP
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>>561945042
it's spelled bestiality (because it's the best) and no we can't
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>>561945528
>Infernus
just buy dispel magic and keep your distance bro, he applies the burn at a slower rate at long range
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>>561945675
would be a shame if the opponent had a keyboard with a W key
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just killed a victor with my hitlerian ice beam i feel terrible
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>>561945808
your opponents do not have agency, just do the counter and stop complaining
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Do I lose lane if I play Billy against Graves? Also, what do I do in lane if the enemy is bullying me like Mina but also have pinpoint accuracy where I can't even get any souls since they instantly deny it? At that point, do I just abandon the lane and go farm jungle?
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>>561945984
>Do I lose lane if I play Billy against Graves?
just stay outside of her 15m range bro
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>>561945984
should have picked a different character on the draft screen when you saw the enemy team picked her
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>>561945984
Billy has a lot of auto-lose lanes I'll be honest with you man just run boxes.
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kek is this real or is this post just you guys trolling
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>>561945984
should have never queued a character that only works within 15m in the graves meta
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>have to buy 3 knockdowns and have all of them be present on the map in the same place as vindicta in order to interact with her
nice
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>>561913005
countless people have made makeshift homes in the new york subway before the jews excavated a tunnel during covid
calm the hell down
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>>561898804
>>561898804



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