Badwin Is Kill EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>561705932>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:‘Beyond the Hive’ is out. Patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/beyond-the-hive-free-update-out-now-patch-1-11-0-expeditions/119479Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>Darktide Killers:Space Marine 2Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon BladesJohn Carpenter's Toxic Commandoand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>/coopg/ almost died for a second
>>561964212Realisitically there's like 4 potential ones, from most likely to least likely>ash waste nomad, since we finally went outside of Tertium proper and we are dealing with the people who live outside the hive, might be a psyker reskin or something because the devs are yet to reuse psyker shit in a DLC class>battle sister, which will just be a lazy zealot reskin melee class, because the devs are fucking lazy>noble man/woman, in the story nobles are getting impatient with progress the warband is making>eldar of somekind, since in the story the Mourningstar is being tailed by the Eldar for some reason
MISTER OF BATTLE SOON
Felinids soon, anons. But for meow you'll just have to wait.>:3c
How is it that faggots are like 0.5% of the population but every general on every board gets spammed with gay shit?
nerd website, anonymity
>fags cant make a new thread in time>>561978413liking women (male) isnt gay, anon, we went over this
>>561978413Anons turn prison gay, as a joke.
>>561978413dregs of society flee to the dregs of society meeting spot, wowzers
>>561978137>eldar of somekindCold trader with eldar guns and nades.
i completed the surveynow darktide is saved
>>561977949I know, the most horrific
Scummers should get laspistols.
>>561979157Dual laspistols
>>561979410Dual everythingGimme Dual Autoguns
>>561978850Doubt it, because GW is anal over 40k shit. You know what would be safest thing to do with eldar weapons? Just making a full eldar class, because then the devs can just use whatever the fuck eldar weapons they want to without too much pushback from GW.
>>561979738>cold trader>GW is anal over 40k shitWeird non sequitur.
>>561978413You can make bots any sexuality you likeDead Internet is one thing but they had to go and make all the bots as obnoxious as possible
>plasmagun>feels like a railgunexplain
>>561980818>Europeans>knowing fucking anything about guns>even fictional onesBritish IP Swedish devs
>>561980474Yeah? And your idea still isn't great.Also I just checked and the whole "Cold Trader" shit comes from Fantasy Flight Games.It's literally 3rd party shit made by non-official GW sources, which already solidly lands it in the "practically never happening" category.Which matters because Fatshark actively avoids that shit with Darktide.
>>561980818>>561980910You guys do realize that plasmaguns in 40k work by magnetic acceleration, right?It feels like a railgun, because it might as well be one.
>>561981316And the projectile would need to be hot enough to sublimate anything in its vicinity before impact in order to pass through like that, which is physically impossible and would do horrible things to the atmosphere (and the wielder) without needing to meme self-detonate.
>>561980940Ah, you're a retard I see. I get that you want your gay elves so much you grasp at any straw, but c'mon.Maybe play some Rogue Trader and see how "3rd party" cold traders really are before you open your cock sucking orifice.
why is telepots playing darktide again?
>>561981513is this nigga still using sharty vocab and hanging with ziggers?
>>561981513he's still begging to be let back into the playtester circle
Zealot status??
>>561982218lollmao, even
>>561981454>u-uhm b-but in this other game also made by 3rd partyAgain, you're just exposing yourself as a midwit. And again making a full eldar class is 100% safer to make than making some random human bozo fuckwit class and giving elf weapons to them, who'd basically just be yet another hive scum.
>>561980910euro guns > us guns
>>561971716>>561971645They don’t all have that though
>>561978137Eldar seems really unlikely what with them stating it’s le human story and the fact we know they can’t make a class that’s *too* different from the ones we already have.>>561980494More like thirdie internet “theory” at this point…
>sloptubers completely tarnishing their feedback on things like the expedition mode by CONSTANTLY saying shit like 'I applaud fatshark for experimenting'Why? Why the fuck do you applaud them for experimenting? Why is this such a fucking common opinion? Why is it automatically good to be experimenting with random shit when THEY HAVE FUN AND FUNCTIONAL CONCEPTS FROM THEIR PREVIOUS GAME THEY COULD SIMPLY USEHoly fuck am I tired of these faggots, and the worst part is they're all in their little early access clique constantly telling the devs this kind of garbage so they'll keep doing this shit
>>561982418>made by 3rd partyFully approved by GW and has the WARHAMMER 40000 logo on it's cover.Just going "nuh-uh" won't save your izzat.>making a lanklet with a new body mesh that will require different approaches to cosmetic development is easier than making another humanAnd that's what dung breakfast does to a mf.
>>561980910>>561980818>>561981435it’s sci fi shit dude there’s no real life example to go off for this stuff it could have worked and felt like a water hose and that would be valid
Okay hear me out>Ork mercenary/captured ork forced to fight and die for the warband
>Watch darktide streamer>Alerts for every special>Bright pink marker showing what direction they're in>Specials always highlighted>Auspex minigames have solutions always showing>Pickups always shown, ammo in crates visible through walls>Blast/fire radius shown on the ground"This game is too easy"How do people play like this?
>>561983983it's a mental illness
>>561983813hive scum are basically just scrawny, pale orks already>cockney accent>armor is bits and bobs>weapon are sharp bits and dakkasorry, too much overlap, please consider
>>561983813nah that would be dangerous allying with Orks when you’re not watching them from a distance and fighting side by side with them is a good way to get yourself killed when they decide you make a better fight
>>561974420I’ve stepped foot in /twg/ maybe once but this is still so funny to me thanks for sharing
>>561983220It's FFG shit and it's never getting added to Darktide because the devs are actively avoiding anything within it.Owlcat gets a shorter leash because their games are B-tier 40k games.
>>561983220>izzat izzatI can tell you're indian yourself because this is what you care and think about.>but le human classAnd GW won't let them make it for the simple reason why won't let a human faggot with xenos guns exist in Darktide.It's a safer to make a full eldar class than make some random dipshit cold trader.
>>561983813>lets bring a violent retard alien onto the planet that will just infect the entire planet with ork spores that are impossible to get rid of, unless you use exterminatusYour idea is fucking terrible just from a story point of view.
>>561983983It's the same brainrot that turned MMO's like WoW in to addon hellscapes only enjoyed by Adderall addicts
>>561985929>He unironically thinks a single ork can doom a whole planetYour knowledge of 40k comes from youtube shorts, I presume?
boobsbait(you)
>>561986210But it wont be a single orkit'll be a clan a freebooterseven if you could convince them to fight for you, eventually they'll start fighting you because they love a good scrapAnd when Orks are having a good scrap, somehow MORE ORKS show up
Post THAT image... you know the one.
>>561985580>>561985746>devs are actively avoiding>GW won't let themExcept reality proves you wrong. Both the devs and GW are on board, which RT and soon DH prooves. Darktide had a cross promo with RT as well.No idea what you're trying to pull here arguing against facts with your copes. Just take the L and move on, this izzat shit ain't real, you'll be okay
>>561986903
>>561986003Wow was always kind of doodoo though>>561986782Built for me
>>561987545>but broo these other games thoughYeah, and it doesn't matter.Darktide is still never getting FFG shit added into it, ever. If it was ogryn would already have a heavy bolter as a ranged weapon.
>>561986210Retard, orks give off millions of spores CONSTANTLY, not just when they die. They are actual fucking mushrooms.Yes, 1 ork would be enough to damn an entire fucking planet.
>>561990139>NOO SAAR IS NEVER GETTING CUZ I SAID SORogue traders are "FFG shit". We're on a rogue trader ship, we have rogue trader cosmetics.GW is okay with "FFG shit". They actually see this shit sells.You don't have to save face on an anonymous forum THAT desperately. Your elephant god won't come for your ass because it doesn't exist.
Man Pro-Trader really is fucking cancer.
>>561991317They put the rats in the maze and they do their chores like good little test subjects
This nigga playing expeditions
>>561991317Why tho? Like I get miring that armor, but who cares about the gay title?>+5 goy pointsWOAH
>>561992596>>+5 goy pointsBet my penance is larger than yours, penancelet
>>561991317>people are actually wasting their days grinding this dogshit mode for meaningless "rewards"
>>561995293I'm having fun being a loot goblin
>>561995293had like 3 dudes having a melty over this shit this morning
>>561991317Ironically, even as a kendollfag, I find the brown version of the expedition armour the superior fit on all characters and immediately lost all motivation to touch the mode ever again upon unlocking the final piece.The grind is far, far too high for what it offers and for what it is. I played CW for 2-3 times the hours needed to farm all this stuff and did it just to play the mode. Expeditions, just like Weaves, when they first said we would never get the weapon skins, is dead to me.Its not fun, it pigeon holes builds and playstyles I mostly do not enjoy and I got out of it everything I was going to with 50+ games as a ranged lasgun focused Vet. I got to play my Vostroyan Fusilier, my Krieg Infantrymen, my Cadian Shocktrooper and my laspistol Commissar. That in normal maps is a liability but the huge range I could shoot from was fun.
>>561995293I've had fun playing it with the bros, but trying to play it with randoms is cancer
>>561996610>pigeon holes>I got to play my Vostroyan Fusilier, my Krieg Infantrymen, my Cadian Shocktrooper and my laspistol CommissarMore like piggy holes lol suiiiiiie
>>561997719Imagine caring about how another man spends his money...what a fincuck.
What difficulty should I do the event on? The new mode is 100% dead in Auric
>>561998807Only tryhard sweats play in auric, and only in the deeper nodes.Play malice, all the shitters play malice, and most of the grinders also play malice. Just be prepared to solo gigacarry when you see dog or tornado modifiers in quickplay; they're the most common ones, and apparently the great normie filter. Bring a build that can undog itself. Zealot, scum, ogryn and arbitrator all have abilities that push dogs away.
>>561998992Are the grid point things all actually different queues? Is that why I can't fucking find any players? Because I'm only just now playing it and I'm the only person stuck on the first fucking node? God what a stupid fucking idea, why do developers keep doing this retarded shit with their multiplayer games
>>561999316>Are the grid point things all actually different queues? Is that why I can't fucking find any players? Because I'm only just now playing it and I'm the only person stuck on the first fucking node?Yes, exactly.In fact, you can only quickplay into nodes you have unlocked.I suspect auric alpha to be completely fucking dead.
I'll be playing Mortis trials and Looging again tonight. Those penances won't complete themselves.
>>562000060Hope you're at least having fun. If you still need grenade penances, mortis trials are the best way to get those done too if you get the grenade regen ability or just hog the grenade crates
>>561981936yes>>561981948lmao that's embarrassing
Is there no way to play expeditions solo, like with a mod? Every group is full of shitters in this awful game mode.
>>562004717Not that I know of. Some anons have been recommending grinding it on Heresy since the rewards are pretty similar across all difficulties, but the success rate is much higher
Which mark of tacaxe was the good one? Assume I have plenty of crit and rending.
>>561983813Kino>>561985929Ork mercenaries are a real thing however and have even cohabitated with other races previously.
>BARREL'S GONNA BOOM!
tfw just got called a shit player by>Sniper Veteran who constantly lagged behind everyone, straight up standing still while everyone else is moving up, who then proceeds go down and die in a spot I wasn't even aware you could get to
>>562006948
>>561985929Tourist.
>>562007114>a spot I wasn't even aware you could get toI don't think this is what your vet was doing but there's a few of those in some maps, places where you really gotta parkour to get intosometimes they're in a spot that enemies can't get to, so if you're running smoke grenades, dome shield or desperado you can just kill enemies with impunity by using them as shooters' nestsat least one exists in a place with a "hold your ground" objective so it doesn't even impede mission progress to use it as a safe spot
>>561983983>>Pickups always shown, ammo in crates visible through walls>>Blast/fire radius shown on the groundI play like thst. Fuck fatshark for hiding ammo from me and not being able to draw a separate icon for large ammo pickups.And can you really blame anyone for blast radius indicators when explosions are this fucking wonky?
I'm considering getting dark tide to try out>Are the AMD preformance issues as bad as everyone makes it seem? (9800X3D/9070XT/64gb RAM)>Can you do alright just playing with randoms?I had another question but I forgot.
>>562011098OH I remember now. I don't know shit about the 40k lore or universe, can I still get a good experience playing?
>>562011098You can do fine with randoms. Although, it might be worth asking for help in thread when you hit the twins fight in the story-mode. It tends to filter new players pretty badly. Enough anons here are decent enough to help out or just help you git gud. You don't have to worry about what's meta or best until you do stuff like havoc.
>>562011172It's a good horde shooter, so you should have fun even if you don't know anything about the setting. 40k just sets the look of it. You won't get some of the interactions and what's going on. But it's pretty easy to give a quick rundown on what's going on if you want it.
>>562011098Dunno about AMD but most people play with randoms so you'll do fine, it's only when you hit lategame stuff like havoc where you need a group and even then you can somewhat reliably get teams together by calling on randoms (may not be good for havoc 40 aka latelategame)>>562011172Considering the position of your character in the setting (you are a dumbass nobody) you'll learn everything you need to know about the immediate game setting and not much else, there'll be some mystique but that's fine and frankly the actual lore can be incredibly shit at times so it's even more fineYou can have a good time regardless
>>562011172Darktide is still plenty fun without any 40k knowledge.
>>562011172Sir, every single person in this thread is, at minimum, a secondary. The few Primaries probably don't even play the game but correct shitter lore dumps. You are at minimum a Tertiary. At worst, a Quaternary. Either way, you'll fit in.
>>562011435The twins fight relies heavily on whether you've built for it at all. The smoothest run I ever had was an auric hardmode with just me (as zealot) and an arbitrator. Arbites was running Rebreather, while I was running the purity aura and this shit(pic related) so for both of us the tox gas was a total non-issue. And since shock mauls excel at busting voidshields and martyrdom stealth zealots excel at single target damage you best believe it was a very smooth run, even with 2 bots who got downed near instantly.
>>562014076>tox gasHow does literally anyone even struggle with this? The gas is never anywhere problematic. The fight has an entire mechanic of STAND IN THE CIRCLE RETARD, and the actual reason fart gas is bad is because it nukes your toughness. Corruption has never ever even mattered. What are you smoking tox gas lol!!??
>>562014587>expecting pubs to understand "stand in the circle retard">expecting pubs to realize toughness>expecting pubs to block the sword>expecting pubs to dodge the plasmagunYou genuinely assume way too fucking much and give the random pub too much benefit of the doubt. Pubs will straight up stand in the tox gas and eat plasma shots to the face while taking Rinda's sword up their ass. This is not an exaggeration.
>>562014587Do you not understand that being able to just ignore the tox gas is beneficial?
>>562014826>>expecting pubs to understand "stand in the circle retard">PINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPING>stand in the circle>PINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPINGPING>they run after you like lost puppiesToughness stops mattering if they don't stand in the gas, just ping where they're supposed to go, most players react to that.Valid on the sword and plasma though, even havoc 40 players get hit by captains a worrying amount. I also still think sword captains are the most threatening bosses because the move set is actually quite strong.>>562015230It is only beneficial if you play the fight incorrectly. If you just STAND IN THE CIRCLE RETARD, there is no gas to ignore anymore. I get that rebreather has its uses and is very comfy, but I've stopped crutching on it in favor of another damage node and I only miss it sometimes in auric expedition where you are forced to stand in the same spot. I don't even take it in havoc fart gas modifiers. It's not worth the point if you just stop standing in the fucking gas.
>>562015541So not only do you think every retard is not actually retarded but you want me to hold their hand too? How about you go the fuck back to the lower difficulties and let the big dog plays.
>>562015694>the concept of not standing in the gas is this impossible for you to understandlmfao you fucking retard
>>562015975Bro. I'm not the one dying to tox gas. Also, once you get past Heresy if you can't figure out basic shit like Tox Gas rapes Toughness, or what the fuck Toughness is, you desperately need to reduce the difficulty until it clicks. The sword is by far the most dangerous captain weapon, but it is completely countered by BLOCKING. The new issue is sword captains are ADHD coded and if they don't do any health damage within one combo they switch targets.
>>562016208>once you get past Heresy if you can't figure out basic shit like Tox Gas rapes Toughness, or what the fuck Toughness is, you desperately need to reduce the difficulty until it clicks.Well yeah no shit, but what the fuck do you expect from the average darktard?Just PINGPINGPING as obnoxiously as possible until they follow. (You) care about (You)r W, right? What does it fucking matter if you carried 3 deadweights and accidentally taught them a mechanic?
>>562016390>Well yeah no shit, but what the fuck do you expect from the average darktard?NO ASSHOLE WHAT THE FUCK YOU EXPECT????
>>562016445>ESLgroid legitimately too ESL to even have a conversation withYeah never mind, I don't know why I bothered.Get the fuck off my civilized, English speaking internet, thirdie.
>>562016550You're the one giving every single player the benefit of the doubt that they know their asshole from their dick, and when I say "Actually they don't" and you start to argue? And then you concede with the fucking line "WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?"I genuinely expected better from you, brownoid.
>>562016645>too ESL to hold a conversation>calls others brownLet me guess, Slav?
>>562016732I'm completely coherent, you are backed into a corner with nowhere to run.Fuck you
>>562016820Got it, slav. Thanks for reaffirming my beliefs.
>>562016903Keep holding the hands of the retarded.
I'm just glad this wasn't a waste of time for either of you
Hello. Would anyone be willing to help a consolepleb complete "Just A Flesh Wound" Penance so i can get my fanatic drip?Putting a party up with keywords: Adventure, Heresy, Polish and Penances.
>>562016968I carry slavs virtually every other game that I play. (You) may just be among them, provided you've managed to get your FAS ass carried to auric.
Havoc more active than ever before
>>562017125Why would you be playing with slavs that often? Are you in the same time zone or something? Are you secretly a self loathing slav? I bet you are.
>>562017232I have the misfortune of playing on European servers, which is infested with these animals.Don't even insinuate I'm a filthy sub-human.
>>562017357Right, you just play with them all the time, live near them, and are 'forced' onto their servers.
>>562015541You've never played the hardmode twins have you? You can get a lot of use from ignoring the tox gas since you can take out the armored elites and specialists spawning all around the arena.
>>562017435I almost went through the effort of explaining to you how utterly retarded and ignorant you are. Then I realized you don't even have the mental faculties to understand what I'm saying.Kill yourself
>>562017782>he's a self loathing slav in denialHungarian by every account.
>>562017714I have the keychain because I'm not retarded enough to stand in the fart gas unlike apparently some dumbfuck ESLgroid and also (You).
>>562014587Yah, I kind of agree with >>562014826. Story-mode throws you into it in your 7th mission I think. So it's kind of expecting a lot.
>>562018002The game doesn't even let you leave Malice by that point I think
>>562018409Karnak Twins are also a unique Twins fight. They have those special linked shields and an entire arena with phases. They are, indeed, a BOSS FIGHT.
>>562017064Thank you to the arbites for help but sadly i did not get it yet so i will post the party again.
>>562011098I have 9070 and a 5800X3D, steady 1440p 120 fps FSR4 Quality.There's like one or two options you probably need to change in the config. Check the forums. I don't have any of the issues they have, and sure as shit don't use framegen.Only thing is something they broke with the recent patch, textures not loading at times.
>>562019890 >>562017064Where's the fucking lobby
>>562020415should be back up now
Polish Penances is code for gay sex
>>562017064>>562019890My thanks to the chadgryn who helped me finally get the penance.
>>562017901Sakura sex>>562006304They are a thing they’re just not a common thing because of >>561984769>>562011172Absolutely, although knowing the lore will enhance your experience and make you appreciate the world being brought to life
>level 30 and never even changed out of the prison outfitincredible, I kneel
>heresy gaming
>>562017064>>562022160Based consoleGOD keep holding it down king
>>562026665I admire their resolve
>>562026665What did the actual gameplay look like?How do you even have that many deaths in a single mission lmfao
>>562027720Maybe they colluded for the penance.
>>562027903Yeah the dead teammates penance should be really easy by just killing yourself as a psyker(s), but the 52 minute timer makes this suspiciously plausible to just have been retards.
I did the weekly expedition last week and it was supposed to award some kind of a gun, looked like a gun for Markus, but I didn't seem to get it. This week apparently its a pickaxe, so I know for sure that the dwarf should've received it, but I checked his inventory and it wasnt there either. Is there somewhere I should claim these weapons? I even saw the popup after finishing the quest, I know that I should've received those weapons, but they're nowhere to be seen. Why?
>>562028268it's a skin
>>562028394W-wuuuhhhhhh...........
But I don't wanna cross something called the Bridge of Many Martyrs
>>562031537Cry about it
>>562031537>>562031581Winge, winge, winge. Stow it!
>>562017935I'm sure you're speaking perfect English as you're on the ground screaming>PLIIS HELP MII
>>562017714Retard>>562017935Genius
Why do the women look like men in this game?
>>562033217btw I'm trans
>>562033379its the grim darkness of the far future
>>562033379Why did you make the woman look like a man?
>>562034232sorry. meant for >>562032608
>been trying to get into DRG>have 8 hours played>constantly lost even with the map>watching people pul;l gems and shit out of random locations with no indications what so ever>struggle to figure out most things that isn't "collect X"I think I'm too stupid for this game
>>5620364248 hours isn't shit
>>562036424Just play. Also if you notice a piece of dirt that looks like it has little gems in it, it probably does have a gem deeper down. Especially look for hints related to the gems found in that biome. Map is nice but if you don't have a sense of direction and location you're fucked. Just keep checking it and relating. A lot of the game is just kinda... noooticing and extrapolating from there.
>>562036424see this here green shit? That means there's a big green gem under there. All of the "dig shit out of the ground" gems are like this but with different indicators. They could be green, blue, pink, gold, or little spheroids; all indicate there's a different chunk of mineral under there. Once extracted, these little indicator crystals will go dull and not glow anymore.
>>562036424Don't play scout until you learn the game, unless you want to piss off your teammates. Same goes for driller to a lesser extent.
FRIENDLY ROCK
>>562037736Why not scout? I shoot lights and go up to high minerals and mine them. it's nearly retard proof.
>>562037983The retards get stuck and die in dumb places, hog ammo, etc etc
>>562037983Alright then, most beginners don't do the bare minimum with scout
>>562038215>hog ammoI do find I run out of ammo rather quick but I only take the bare minimum from resupplies
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0297051-3f07-4cd6-aec5-b998a279c771/glass-cannon-without-the-glass>try this because of that other anon was bitching the game is too easy with melee psyker>have unholy amount of fun on auricthanks anon
Am gon 2 pley havc geimu!!!
>>562037983The lights are just an important job for the team that a lot of newbies don't do well enough. Don't listen to that anon though, I started with scout myself. It has a bit of a learning curve with the grapple, but as long as you don't spend half the mission off on your own not lighting up things for the team, you'll do just fine. I think people forget how low stakes the lower difficulties are in these games, where the new players are at.
>>562038558>as long as you don't spend half the mission off on your own not lighting up things for the teamhaha yeah, I certainly don't spend half the mission completely lost after everyone b-lines to the next thing they somehow know the exact location of and the perfect way to get there.I do only host my own games so I'm not shitting up anyone elses game and the people who join only have themselves to blame.
>>562038446Assail is also a fun option for a build like this btw, you just magdump it into enemies at the end of your scriers gaze while you can't explode but still have all the juicy damage and cleave bonuses going from high peril.>>562038735>getting lostHere's some huge tech for you. Go into options > controls, and check the "toggle laser pointer" option ON. When you're in a mission, take out the laser pointer and then switch off of it by pushing your 1 key to swap back to a weapon. You should see that all of the highlighting for the mule, your team, and certain other objectives stays on even after you've put your laser pointer away.Also if you're going to play scout, my biggest recommend is learn how to do the technique here, I timestamped the link for you: https://youtu.be/7D2UL2QCoRA?si=hLAcxsbemuzXnP9G&t=812 it takes practice, you WILL fall to death, but it's critical to master it for higher level Scout play.
>>562039656>my biggest recommend is learn how to do the technique hereI was wondering if there was a way to do that, thanks for the tip.
>>562039829Rock and stone brother, hope you have a lot of fun with the game. It takes a while to get up there to getting your overclocks but once you do, man there's some fun shit you get to use.
The Valkyrie fire support item is hilariously fun. You get a valk flying around blasting heretics and for some reason it aggros gunners before you do. No idea how long the duration is, but it seems to be a while.
I still havent bought the 2 new classes.feels good my main men.
>>562041340I heard it stays with you until you sanctuary (the 150 cost one)Its so cool seeing all the Ogryn gunners trying to shoot it down (cant think of their names now)
>>562041894Rapers
Anyone think the male Cadia voice sounds better than the female one?
>>562043228men ar better than women at everytrhing dude
would it bankrupt them to put some aquilas in this?
>>562043228I avoid them as I have Cadia-fatigue
>>562043546Yes.
>>562043228I don't make female characters, so sure.
>>562043228They are both valid interpretations.Male voice has a lot more intensity. Female voice is more standard angry. Male is better if you're in the mood for some ham. Female is better if you're in the mood for a tsundere to shout about cadia and she's only fighting alongside you because it's the mission not because she likes you or anything.
>>562033379Current year mental illness>>562038541Cute!!!
>>562043228Yes. Male Cadian is arguably the most in line with the 40k fantasy period. Also some of the best voice work in the game.
>>562042679>no trigger warningshameshameshame
>>562046645Trigger warning: this post main contain mentions of sexual violence.*rapes you*
I just bought 40k, know nothing about warhammer but from the one mission I've done it seems really cool. The game play seems fun too, basically just ungabunga all the way to the end. I will say the movement feels a bit off and sprint is weird but maybe it's the class (veteran). I also like that I could make my character a bald, ugly SOB just like me.
>>562047371Welcome, reject
>>562047371Classes like Scum and Zealot have faster baseline movement. The particular weapon you're using along with its mobility stat also has an effect.
>>562047371You just bought Darktide. 40k is the name of the wider universe. Welcome though.
>>561981435>>561980818>>561981316Canonically it should work as you expect, a glob of plasma hits you and you become melted, it's not used for it's penetrative power (well it's anti-armor but you get what I mean), that's all fatshark
>>562047371>I will say the movement feels a bit off and sprint is weirdMovement IS a little strange in tide games, dodge and jump sharing a button takes a little getting used to. Sprint will vary based on your class, talents, and weapons. Try out the combat knife when you unlock it, you should go nice and fast with that weapon.
>>562048109>a glob of plasma hits you and you become melted>meltedThat's not what would happen. Once plasma loses magnetic containment, it explodes since it's a state of matter that requires absurd pressure and heat to stay that way.
>>562047371Movement is basically just apex legends movement you'll get it
>>562048229Yes, and then you become meltedIt punches craters into things but it doesn't go through a crowd of people like in fatshark's game
>>562048376No anon, actual plasma doesn't "melt" you, it vaporises anything it comes into contact with into a gaseous state, depending on the matter's melting point. Acid melts you.
>>562048493>melting pointSorry, wrong term, I meant boiling point. Melting is from solid to liquid, boiling is liquid to gas.
>>562048493>it vaporises anything it comes into contact with into a gaseous statethat's pretty much melting yeahanyways it hits you then makes a big hole in you larger than the plasma "bullet", like you said, then you get a new crater where your armored chest was, it shouldn't work like a railgun like people were talking abouta lascannon might, I guess. if everyone in the path is unarmeda meltagun would melt a line of people
>>562046875:<Rape SuX!
>>562048629>unarmedunarmored*
>>562048629I wouldn't expect plasma bolts to go through carapace, but it does make sense for it to penetrate most other targets, especially unarmored ones. The only issue is that the game doesn't model the hole it would leave behind when passing through targets. It looks like it works like a railgun, but its behaviour I think is on point. It's a problem of visual effects and using the same mechanic as penetration that other weapons use rather than having its own kind of penetration and gibbing visuals on models.
>>562048905>I wouldn't expect plasma bolts to go through carapacescience or space magic, plasma is anti-heavy infantry weaponry and punches through space marine armor (hell, space marines use it)like i said in the first 4 words though who knows if it makes sense with real physics
>>562048905oh wait you said go through like going through a person, nevermind i seewhat makes it seem even more like a railgun is how you brace and zoom in when you aim then it shoots a superfast bullet (that oftentimes lags and isappears), it should be a projectile instead of hitscan desu
>>562049016Oh I don't mean carapace would hold up against the projectile, I just mean that a plasma bolt would lose most of its energy on a target with carapace and explode rather than penetrate, where on lighter armored targets it's liable to go right through barely missing any of the energy expended.
>>562049118I could swear the plasma does fire a projectile rather than use hitscan like other weapons, it's just a very fast projectile.
>>562049209yeah i got you i got you, plus what i said in the other post about the projectile just makes it seem like you shoot something that destroys everything in a tube in front of the reticle, would work better for a meltagun than plasma honestly
Bro... they really needed to add some kind of wep/armor upgrade system tied to tech rems.like once you unlock all nodes, there is zero point to even gathering that shit logically
>>562049593I know right? It was a perfect opportunity to add red quality to weapons and curios and would have given everyone a real reason to play the mode if remnants were an exclusive currency for getting them, but we're talking about the swedish here.
>>562049593wep/cosmetic*
>>562049704At the very least they should have like had a meter setup and once it reaches 40,000,000,000,000 tech rems, we unlock the admech class for free
>>562049805Who knows, maybe they'll correct their mistake when they blow their load on the skitussy and add red quality with the class.
Can you boys stop yappin about plasma physics and instead give me a plasma gun build for funmaxxing? I've tried the gun a couple of times now and I don't really get it
>>562049906>Tech-Priests show up with Skitarii and try to claim jurisdiction due to the tech remnants, just like Dukane and the Arbites guy tried to do>Bring upgrades for Hadron with them so that she can craft weapons up to red with materials from expeditionsKino? Or slop?
>>562050283You're mean :(
>>562050396Kino, but unintentionally, nobody in this thread will believe they planned it.
>>562050283I copy builds off youtube, sorry
>>562050283it's the least fun vet ranged weapon.
>>562050641Damn I was hoping I was just doing it wrong, that was my assessment so far too.
>>562050669It's pretty strong, it's just hard to use and a waste to use it on anything but hard targets, which you can use kraks on anyway.
>>562050809>a waste to use it on anything but hard targetsI thought it was a cleavemonster for hordes too? Or do you mean it just uses too much ammo to be used like that?
>>562050669It handles like shit, it doesn't matter what damage it does
>>562050882You can, it's a waste of ammo, but you can do it. Survivalist makes up for it because plasma has a massive reserve, but it's usually better to just wade in with your melee option for horde clearing or having other people do it. It largely depends on the map, if you're looking at a horde coming down a hall, the plasma gun is fun as fuck, but anywhere more open makes using it that way a liability.
>>562048905Agreed with the last part>>562049329I thought the same honestly>>562049347I don’t think I’ve ever seen a meltagun be done justice yet honestly
>>562051376I thought Space Marine did meltas good. It worked a little too much like a shotgun, but it felt satisfying to blast away with it.
Been away since christmas is darktide saved? did yet another new game mode nobody ask for save the game? I'm dying to know
>>562051476The only problem with those is them having no range IMO
how2use zealot flamethrowerIt looks cool and holding down chokepoints is a blast but almost every fucking time I get gangfucked from behind and have to switch back to melee almost immediately. Additionally I am constantly being tormented by ranged units all match because I don’t really have a gun
>>562051972>is darktide saved?skitarii was leaked so yes
>>562051972>is darktide saved?It's over.>did yet another new game mode nobody ask for save the game?Nope.>I'm dying to knowNot today.
>>562052120>is a blastI'm going insane
>>562052120You pretty much have to take throwing knives with the flamer, they let you deal with ranged enemies but also they can cancel the long animation to pull the flamer out, so you can use it more flexibly.
>>562052120Knives for ranged like other anon said, and don't hold it down for too long, it does no damage it just applies burn, use it for a bit then swap
>>562051972It's different. My friends that played Helldivers 2 said it's similar to that. The new mode requires players to be kind of smart, stick together, and deal with disablers and bombers quickly. Most people grind it on heresy.
>>562050283This.>>562050641 I prefer the new boltgun or the boltgun in general to the plasma gun now. In havoc with stims or rotten armor the plasma gun hits like a wet noodle.
The women can look good if you cover their faces
>>562048109No, plasma is used as anti-armor often. Fatshark got that part actually correct.
>>562055636reread the post
>>562049906They won't add anything worth shit with the skittle. Just like with Arby we only got a shittier mission board, and Hive Scum gave us 1 short map.There won't be anything good with skitarii either, at best maybe we get some useless rework for a system like the mission board.
I want to be irrumatiod
>>562051972it's overbut in summer we'll be back, trust he plan
>>561992616woman hands
>>562060668Bet you want his hands on your dick, you faggy ass tranny
Is SWAT4 even worth playing anymore due to RoN?
>>562050283I use this one for extremely hihg damage
>>562061346why rending over toughness?
>>562052120>how2use zealot flamethrowerPrimary puffs into approaching packs of enemies to suppress/stagger them. Primary puffs between slides while advancing into gunner fire to suppress the fuck out of them.Secondary streams into dense hordes.>almost every fucking time I get gangfucked from behindThat's normal, you just have to play to account for that. Occasionally whip around and send flames behind you. It's not a controller friendly weapon for this reason. Its dodges are absolutely abysmal but you still have to use them. Use your ears, listen to audio cues, dodge when you hear an incoming attack. A lot of the time you can kinda just spam away your dodges and get away with it even while surrounded, you just need to time them right.>I am constantly being tormented by ranged units all match because I don’t really have a gunCorrect. For all of its strengths, the flamer is virtually unusable with retarded randos for this exact reason. Nobody will shoot the shooters, everyone will ignore the snipers, and flamer ranges from terrible to downright unusable against them. Knives are a band-aid fix that don't actually solve the problem properly.If practicality is your concern, I would never recommend using the flamethrower outside of high havoc where the shooty guys on your team will actually shoot the shooters. Auric quickplay shitters are just too unreliable and retarded. Players in lower difficulties than that might as well not be sentient.
>>562052120>>562065213>Knives are a band-aid fixTrue but I also wanted to mention, you can further band-aid things with Shroudfield to close on gunners and stuff as well as take your time to line up a throw on snipers. I think it complements a Shroudfield combat knife build pretty well, you get to schmoove and groove and the stealth can help you get into interesting positions for the flamer to roast down a whole column of whatever the fuck is bothering you
>>562065424It's okay with invis, but I honestly think the retard approach of magdumping a bolter into said hordes is usually more effective, while also not crippling you out of being able to shoot important targets. Less ammo efficient, more practical, and does more damage to bosses (not that you needed that with a stealth build).I'd recommend to learn how to use the relic blade with stealth instead, because that horde clears exceptionally well against anything that isn't carapace (and still kills carapace good), and just use a bolt pistol or combat shotgun for your gun.
>>562065547Yeah all good points, I'm just spitballing on how to best accommodate the flamer if you insist on bringing it along. I mean, it's cool as fuck I can't blame anyone for wanting to use it specifically.
>>562065159honestly there's no good choices in that part of the talent treerending gives the shovel a bit more oomph against armor but that's it, and it's kinda redundant with uncanny strike anywaystake the toughness node if you think it's better
So what's the dump stat for the grenade gauntlet? Melee? Blast radius?
>>562067108melee if you don't actually want to melee with itblast radius if you want to use some meme build where you use it as a melee weapon too
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>562069157You're late.
>>562069157Is Cadia like the 9/11 of WH40k?
>>562071059It's 9/11 times 40.000
>>562071059That was Calth
>>562071314Shit, no wonder they're so mad about it.
i haven't played darktide in 5 days cause i've been playing rogue trader. its so over for me when i return, all of my skill slipped away like sand in an hourglass...
>>562061260yes, swat 4 is still better in places. only play either game modded though.
>>562071059Cadia is like Ukraine of WH40k
>>562075231corrupted incompetent nazi larpers?
>>562075404That's trump admin
>>562075231Dead as fuck
>>562075404Zigger>>562075454Libtard
why can't the women in darktide have nice bodies?*i begin farting out of curiosity*
>>562076124Because Sw*den.Giving man bodies a woman head and morphing their proportions a little is easier, cheaper, lazier, and lets them mass produce cosmetics more quickly.
>>562075689Chaos had defeated Cadia by this point in their invasion
>>562075404>corrupted incompetent nazi larpersKek. Very true.
>>562076124*farts* Nigger? :D
>>562075454God I wish things were even remotely close to that
>>562076124Because sweden and especially fatshark are still infected by woke shit. And making actually attractive women is cardinal sin for them, it's the reasons why the faces look awful, besides like 1.Also Fatshark is retardedly lazy, they can't be arsed to change the cosmetics to fit 2 different body types, and they also do this so they can make more cosmetics.Arguably making a system that automatically "refits" a cosmetic onto a character body isn't even that hard, they just need to make the cosmetic follow the body geometry. They just don't want to bother making it.
>>562076124That's why you get outfits that hide their masculine bodies as much as possible. Some pants even add a butt.
>>562075454>>562075404Goofy bizarro world posts
>>562076265Yeah, but they are eldritch abominations from the dark side of the mind and it took them thousands of years
I will RAPE the trapper! She's gotten away woth TOO MUCH!
Teehee I'm a trapper! I'm a trapper!
>>562078984I don't like Russians either but that's a bit harsh
>>562083746I literally just lost a game because all the russian didn't know how to anythingHe kept dying every time I picked him up and also died instantly after the respawnThey're not human, I'm tellin ya
>>562084236Hab dreyko?
Man, Vermintide 2 is so fun until you start doing Legend missions with randoms. It's such a mess... But I want red gear to make a lot of different builds. But this is so shit....
>>562085102No it was Throneside in the dark
>>562081646My image searching abilities are weak at the moment but just pretend I posted that one pic of Goku frothing at the mouth and talking about rape.
>>562081646where are the fucking pubes? nurgle cultists would NOT shave
>>562086954This one?
>>562087460That's the one.
>>562087460Black hands drew this
>>562092181yeah french
>>562075404t. ass mad russian
Did they put the packmaster and his dogs into the regular gamemode yet?
>>562092849only Fr*nch "people" who care about dragon ball z are algerians. They also love One Piece
>>562094268I've seen the armored dogs show up, but no packmaster yet
>>562094703That's most definitely a bug caused by some retarded Sw*de just wholesale adding both types of dog to the spawn pool without ever testing what that actually does
>>562094808Can't be that, or whole packs of those dogs would be showing up, but it's always just the one.
>>562094891No, dog modifier spawns its own special kind of dog with its own unique ID, they are also much weaker than other dogs. Regular dog spawns show up on their own, and I'd assume pull from the same random table the packmaster uses because Sw*des can't code.
>>562087460damn he's literally me fr fr
>the retarded normies have found malice zetaFuck me and I'm only 33% of the way through my grind. Guess I gotta go back to auric now.
>>562051476>>562051376Space marine is the most correct in my opinionAccurate to the cain/jurgen melta ass pullSpace marine 2 is dog shit however as it does no fucking damage and is a stun stick>>562052080This is accurate, the melta is a short range weaponIirc>Described like a weaponized blow torch>Works like a short range delete stick
>>562007114Well if course he had time to call you shitHe was downed so he wasn't playing
you did take the survey, right?
>>562104609I would give a shit about their gay little survey if they at least gave you 100 aquilas or something like for finishing it but no, you get absolutely nothing for your feedback (which will immediately be ignored and thrown in the trash btw)
>>562104609Yup. Thanks for the heads up on it anons because I wouldn't have noticed it otherwise. Gave Fatshark bad marks because they deserve it and only values on the extreme ends have an impact on the averages
>>562104609Yes. I told them we want more weapons, missions, and enemies. You're welcome.
>>562065637Alright I did the throwing knives and it became far less miserable. Begrudgingly threw on invisibility as well and it became LVDO KINOany redpills on the electrokinetic staff?
>>562106143>any redpills on the electrokinetic staff?The rightclick has been powercrept out of relevance by extreme enemy density, and it has poor aoe in general, so bring a horde clear melee (usually force greatsword). Assail is also half-decent with it.Leftclick is superior, with Surge and Warp Nexus blessings. Build very heavily into crit and Scrier's. True Aim (bottom right) didn't seem to be worth it when I tried it with extremely high crit rate, it's probably good with Surge on the ground pound staff, but you're not supposed to build that for leftclick anyway. I assume bowling ball staff makes Surge good.
>>562106143>>562107124Oh right I completely forgot.The rightclick is still useful of course, for opening/stunlocking bulwarks and crushers. It also still deals half-decent damage to them, it's just not really DPS efficient. Leftclicking a crusher's head is actually more effective with the rending in the bottom left of your tree.
>>562103263>Iirc>Described like a weaponized blow torch>Works like a short range delete stickThat is correct, it is used to punch holes in the sides of tanks, and armoured walls/doors/bunkers. Ceramite might give you a chance not to be instantly melted but not all of an astartes armour is ceramite. Nids should have either their flesh removed in the shape of the blast or a sizeable chunk vaporised on the larger ones.We would need enemy locational damage and tens of thousands of models, textures and skeleton reworks from scratch to represent any of the weapon damage correctly. They mostly get away with this with the brutal takedowns.Due to gameplay reasons almost every weapon in the game is vastly inferior to its most reserved lore representations.
>>562104609Told them I want more weapons, new missions and enemies.And for new classes what matter to me the most are the weapons, mechanics and talents.
>>562106143It's trash, the only upside is that it's retard proof.
>>562108497It's perfectly viable in every difficulty, yes, all the way up to havoc 40. If you think it's bad that means you don't know how to build it.
>>562106143I like zapping but apparently it's more efficient or whatever to spam balls with it. Still gonna zap regardless.
>survey straight up asks if lore is importantHow many slide answers did you really need, buds?
>>562109927>lore>important>"Uhmm so yeah, regular normal guys can use full sized bolters now!"
Pro-Trader is fucking cancer. And now that all the normies have found their way to zeta, farming malice has become a pain in the ass, since they never contribute anything, and will grief by just calling the valk or forcing the door FAR too early.
>>562110870come back to sanity anon. don't grind out pro-trader. That way lies true madness
I wish they buffed electro staff, the damage feels bad.
>>562110870I'm both impressed and surprised you've being grinding expeditions that much. I cleared the event, helped some friends do the same, and unlocked the desert camo gear and stopped. The mode is fun enough, but the grind they ask for is just silly.
>>562112241Fuck, at least code it so that the Electrostaff always or at least 90% of time hits the weakspot of the enemy.
>>562110870feel like they’re going to cut this in half.I have 1.7k hours, but there’s no way I’m grinding this for a shitty title.
>>562113246They wont. There a plenty of penances no one has like 1 million kills and have been playing since launch. Just not religiously like an autist.
>>562113350That being said I saw a guy with that title 2-3 weeks after launch. Had no idea what it was. He had farmed 1 mil kills already.
>>562112056>don't grind out pro-traderYeah I don't think I will. Not this season. I'll definitely continue if/when they do the seasonal reset, and all the sub-human normie shitters get stuck at the dog node for 2 weeks.>>562112298>I'm both impressed and surprised you've being grinding expeditions that much.I was having fun up until exactly today, where I had several games with absolute mouthbreathers completely ruining half of my games.>>562113246>feel like they’re going to cut this in half.I doubt it. And I don't mind all that much if I can get 33% of that penance every season before retards start invading the deep nodes.
>>562114471>I was having fun up until exactly today, where I had several games with absolute mouthbreathers completely ruining half of my games.This is my only experience with this game made.I did it with some friends the other day and it was a lot more fun, even if I was laggy as fuck cause EU playing with US
If only this had a proper visor. 8/18 nodes is weird since we have no idea what the devs intend to do with this mode and if it's done like a season of havoc, you still need 2 seasons to pass in order to clear enough nodes to get it.
>>562118443>If only this had a proper visor.it does now... on the cash shop, in one colour!ahahaha!!! it's literally the same helmet but with the visor it's SUPPOSED TO HAVEbecause they all use the same mesh FatSHIT put a visor on one of the free helmets by mistake when trying to implement the cash shop version, then removed it! hahahaha!!! I LOVE COCK
rat news´ ?
I got a friend into dorktide and she's having a rough time.Should I go bubble psyker to help her out or should I let her eat shit until she learns?
>>562119465Ask what she's struggling with. Stuff like slide tech, a basic melee combo, and that you have to go into melee at times is pretty easy to learn and teach and does a lot to improve at the game. I prefer going shout vet so that they can get hit, learn, but not die.
>>562119280That was just dirty. I'm not surprised that they both fucked up hard enough that players got it for free for a bit and then removed it to sell it. But, still it's just dirty.
*is magnitudes better than the alternatives both as stock and overclocked*
>>562119770The usual newbie shit. Getting railed by gunners, running out of ammo, getting snuck up on by specialists because she doesn't know the sound cues, etc.Actually going into melee would already fix half of those but she goes down like a brick whenever I tell her to take her melee out.Vet btw.
>>562120083Which difficulty? Show her slide movement, going cover to cover, and a basic hit hit shove melee combo and that should fix that or at least it did when I was teaching a friend with the same issues.
>>562120083Learning the melee is strictly mandatory. There is no way around it. Some people are extremely resistant to critique AND learning, so I don't know whether you'd even be able to get this shit through.Dodging and sliding is strictly mandatory, but the inability to do so reliably may be a keybind issue. But that is already a level too nerdy for most normies. Also don't forget that WASD movement is borderline arcane for many normies, and another reason why many players are more comfortable using a controller.>running out of ammo>vetHighly emphasize that Survivalist is absolutely mandatory and builds that don't take that aura are bricked. Strongly suggest Shock Trooper with an extremely high crit rate build. The brown, slow firing recon las is a comfortable medium between still being good with Deadshot and not requiring an autoclicker mod like the las pistol does.Alternatively, recommend the slow firing infantry las with Efficiency blessing. It's insanely ammo efficient, it just kinda sucks against trash. I assume running out of ammo is an issue of shooting trash. You're supposed to melee that.>doesn't know the sound cuesTrial by fire, you need to learn this through errorMaybe recommend a better melee weapon. Falchion is a legitimately good melee weapon for a clueless idiot to use, as long as they remember to charge the thing.
>>562120063it alright
>>562119335Cute, thread needs more rats even if Vermintide 2 updates are done forever.
>>562113350To be fair shit like the "kill 1 million enemies" are the type of title you will just get by playing regardless.Like it doesn't matter what mode you even play, you will get it.But shit like the Expeditions mode is just pure cancer because it's like "spend 100k money on sanctuary items". BTW this penance is more accurately "SEARCH the ENTIRE fucking map to get money and spend it all"This is one of the reasons why nobody likes the Expedition penances, they are mindless fucking grind you deliberately have to go out of your way to do realistically.It'd be equally shitty as a penance if it was something like "collect 2 million plasteel", you basically HAVE TO go out of your way to collect every piece of fucking plasteel on every mission you play make any sort of reasonable progress on a grindy as fuck penance like that.But shit like "just kill 1 million enemies" is just something that doesn't feel awful because the game is already about killing fuck loads of enemies anyway. You're grinding away at the penance 24/7 regardless, it doesn't feel like a chore because it's already something you do.It's why I didn't really mind the Heavy Hitter penance of "kill 5000 enemies while at max stacks of HH", I got that shit in like 10 or so missions. The trick is to just take off batter because bleed damage eats into your melee kills otherwise.
>>562120083Mods anon. Install mods. Spidey sense is a helpful crutch for people who can't handle sound queues. Teach her how to circle strafe to evade attacks and control fights and any other tips you can provide. Ammo is a learning thing, use a gun that has better ammo economy (or no gun at all) and ping ammo boxes for her. There are tons of training wheels mods on nexusmods.
>>562120063It's really good, I like it.But nothing beats the grenade launcher and you just chucking bombs, getting that crunchy explosion sound and killing dozens of bugs at once.It's peak DRG.
>>562121007>Spidey sense is a helpful crutch for people who can't handle sound queues.No, no no no no absolutely not. Spidey sense creates massive visual clutter unless configured, and users that aren't savvy enough would just get overwhelmed with the rainbow spam and consequently ignore it.It's extremely useful but ONLY when properly configured, which I wouldn't trust someone I don't know to be able to do.
>>562121098I hate the grenade launcher. It doesn't kill shit.
>>562120562We're on heresy right now and it'll probably be a while before we move up.>>562120580>>562121007Thanks for the advice, I'll keep all of this in mind. Especially getting her to take the good talents since she's kinda been picking whatever the fuck.
>>562121376It does, it's meant for squishier bugs not tanks.Also remember to do this.
>>562121242He can just copy his config file to her. EZ.
>>562120791Well they aren't so there will be more rats.
>>562122058I don't know how much of a gamer or how computer savvy anon's friend is.>hey anonette press Win+R and copy paste this thing into the field, then->how do I do that>what is the windows key>it didnt work (didn't hold Win before pressing R)etc. etc.Young people nowadays can't even use computers.
>>562119983what tickles me pink is that it's very difficult to find any instance of a visorless guard helmet with a rebreather in the tabletop models, let alone in any artwork. Given that it looks like complete and utter dogshit without a visor, like it looks like a broken unfinished model because it literally has a crucial component missing, it's easy to imagine that Fatshark actually made it look like shit on purpose just so that they could eventually sell it as a cash shop exclusive item later on like they are now. It was all planned from the start.$40 game btw
>>562121376
>>562121376.
>>562121971>>562123090Sure, it can kill basic grunts. It's just absurd when its competition can kill practically anything while having a larger aoe, more ammo, and not suffering from the problem of targets getting in the way.Well at least the PGL has a stun, unlike the shitty laser beam.
>>562122994I'm not as familiar with the newer IG kits. But you would get some visored helmets with the old cadians and I know my buddy's Steel Legion models all have goggles or visors. I'm fine with them selling a different color version of the visor helmet, I just want visors as an option for the ones already in the game. Have me pay double the normal free cosmetic cost for it for all I care. Actually, make it a penance tied to those sandstorms in expeditions. You earn the visor after getting too much sand in your face or something
>>562123618>6 shots per resup>each one doesn't even kill a praet>>562123804>2 shots per resup
Why is my special assignment into no mans land 20/20 for some characters but others its 17/20? Do you have to do the campaign on all characters?
>>562125565>Do you have to do the campaign on all characters?Yes, if you want that 20/20 on all characters.
>>562124018yeah but the specific helmet in the OP is supposed to be a visored helmet. Pic relatedSteel Legion dudes are actually wearing separate gas masks and goggles. Fatshark just removed a piece from an established design so they could sell it to you whole for real money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Fs2LhziHknew jesper song for a new game tho :(
>>562104609yes i wrote down that i want more voice lines, QOL, and game modes
>>562119465>until she learns
>nigger fell and leave 0.1 seconds earlier than I used Only in Death Does Duty EndThe community of this game are the most disgusting cocksuckers I've ever seen.
Wtf is the game dead.I can not get an Auric QP to save my life.Just normal maps btw not expedition.
>>562129465Regulars are grinding expeditions before Fatshark "fixes" them. Fair weather players bailed upon seeing Expeditions.
>>562110689In fairness our bolters are regular ones>>562119280Great image
>>562125989that's the stuff. heals the soul
>>562119465>>562120083>>562121547Is she cute
>>562122176massive cope>>562128189true
>>562130005Yes but she's a lesbian.
WHOS LAUGHING NOW GRENDYL HUH
>>562133058Remember when actual genuine retards tried to argue that this was proof of Skitarii being NEVER EVER?
>>562133058what's the lore reason for this, then>doesn't want hadron/kharib effectively gaining their own personal muscle, because the skits would undoubtedly take their orders over his>doesn't want soldiers whose minds aren't pliable, needs to fuck with them via sefoni and krall and that might not work on the heavily cyberized skits with mechanicus loyalty implants in their brains
>>562133541Doomtards are so fucking stupid
>>562133541Pretty sure they were all thirdoids who are simply too ESL to understand linguistic nuance. Or too autistic. Or both.
>>562133541It was the same when they released the Arbite skins for all the classes>whoops they won't be class now because MTX store
>>562134296Definitely the first, potent enough psykers can affect and manipulate machines so that’s not an issue for Sefoni presumably, the problem is having to rely entirely on her for the sake of keeping certain troops in check, so that wouldn’t be ideal either when we know how mischievous she is.
>>562135181>ArbiteAt least spell it correctly
>>562134296First. Skiktarii are directly under the control of the Adeptus Mechanicus and even the Inquisition can't boss around the Ad Mech that much. The Ad Mech are about as secretive and prone to betraying others as the Inquisition so if they were to find something of great value for the Ad Mech, there is a real chance they kill the other forces nearby and fuck off with their stuff. There's also Mobian Steel and it's magic status, to where if a joint Inquisition and Ad Mech force were to advance on a location and doing X benefits the Inquisition, but doing Y would help the Ad Mech, the Skitarri are doing Y and your forces are now divided. You already have Hadron going through and keeping everything she finds of note from the expedition missions mentioned in it's dialogue as an example.
>First. Skibidi are directly under control of Bidenus Toiletus
Evens: DarktideOdds: DRG0: Satisfactory
>>562138496Come do some Havocs. NOW!
Playing any mode of darktide right now feels, pointless.At least if there was a pvp mode you get the reward of crushing your enemies with your giant e-penis
So is it Zeta or Eta for malice farm?
>>562139139Eta for reliability, and most solos are queuing for that one.Zeta if you have a farm squad, or want to gamble on getting it done in fewer runs (less people queuing and tighter timer if no one grabs that anti-rad kit). But the overall time/remnant ratio is only a little better.
>>562119465I am also getting a w*man into Darktide lately and the best thing I managed to do was get her to play Martyrdom zealot so it's a lot harder for her to go down. My philosophy is the longer you survive, the more mistakes you get to make and learn from, so the learning process for melee will go faster with some bulk on your defenses.
>>562136351>there is a real chance they kill the other forces nearby and fuck off with their stuff.What, like us and the warband you mean?
>>562119465>>562140649Oh also, are you running her through normal matches with players? I got a lot of mileage out of running mine through the campaign with just the two of us in private games, let her go a lot slower and mess around, get to know the maps easier and get frustrated with the pace left. By the time we were done she was proud to move up to Heresy and start playing with other people.
>>562076124You mean body type A? There are no women in Darktide.
>>562140754Yes. Technically there's some other loyalist moebian forces in other areas, so them too. But aside from the trench map, we never deal with them
>>562141476Huh, neat. I'm a secondary I'm afraid, I never realized the Ad Mech would be that ruthless to other imperial forces. Like, I don't see why they'd need to kill all of us, unless you mean a scenario where Grendyl orders us to stop them from leaving with the tech?
>>562136351I think it's unlikely that admech would open fire on the inquisition without warning. I think its more likely that if something valuable was found they'd just grab it and abandon the inquisitorial mission.
>>562140649Lol? Have her play the arbites
>>562142374She don't wanna shell out for DLC classes until the skittussi shows up (she is only here for admech shit really)
>>562140649The Ironbreaker trap.Should have her playing shout Vet.
>the female skitussyhnnnnng>the female skitussy (male)HHHNRRRRNGGGGFFFFF~~
>>562142509Be a gentleman and buy it for her
Just saw a zealot with the 'Sister of Battle' armour and hair etc. Looked like a dog's breakfast, I just realised there are face masks and rebreathers that would work to hide the tranny face...
I bought Space Marine 2, spent a few hundred hours in Darktide and Vermintide, hope its fun and my rog ally gets good performance
>>562142625You know what? Not a bad idea actually. She just got her Zealot to 30 so a new class might keep her interested longer.
>>562140754>>562141476>>562141603>>562141856Yeah the AdMech are greedy and shifty but even they can recognize a bad situation and won’t just turn on us unless it’s absolutely necessary, there’s not much reason for Grendyl or others to seek out tech so we should just be able to let them have whatever they want.
>>562143805Yeah now that I think about it, that'd be really stupid of them to kill a bunch of allied forces while there's a war on for the place that produces true mobian steel, anyway.
>>562142625>>562143321lmao found this while I was considering it
>>562144390Why doesn't he just play with his friends?
I no longer want to play since the plasma gun got gutted
>>562120083Set her up with an infinite ammo lasgun build. Use the full auto mod if on PC, if not on PC then take a recon lasgun instead. Take the ghost blessing to negate enemy gunners, voice of command, shredder grenades. Power falchion for melee because it's very strong for how simple it is to use. She should be able to shoot and throw grenades pretty much nonstop on auric or lower with this. And have decent uptime on gold toughness. Tell her to listen for and react to the noise of melee dudes coming up and swinging behind her. When she's comfortable with dodging away from melee guys to continue shooting uninterrupted, then get her to move into advanced melee concepts. Remember that with vet especially pushing is stronger than blocking, and blocking is stronger than attacking. When she has a good handle on all that, ask her on a date and let us know how it goes
>encouraging women into our safe spaceprepare to get vote kicked when you enter her games
>do a mission solo>lost 98% of the time>took nearly an hourIt was fun atleast
Are you guys "excited" for rouge core? I hate rougelike shit but I've been having fun with DRG >>562147406 so maybe it'll be good?
>>562147724I don't know maybe because they never fucking invited me to closed betas
>>562140649Who is this woman to you exactly
>>562147880That's because they're doing the closed alphas now :^)
>>562147938Odd question to ask but she's my autistic gaming bestie from the other side of the planet, met her in another general 4 or 5 years ago and we play just about everything together.
>>562147724idk it's been hard for me to get back into DRG after so much Darktide, I'm sure I'd get back into the groove of things but it feels really awful having no true melee weapon to switch to.
I am 80/100 mission on arby. Done everything on Arby there is to do otherwise. Its so fucking boring though.
The Mortis Trials should have an unlimited wave mode
Expeditions has a lot of problems, but a notable one is that tech remnants serve no real purpose. They do not advance the map in anyway. You don't need them to open gates. You don't need them to complete the mission. You don't even hoard them as another crappy crafting resource. Remnants exist to move a penance and unlock more zones, and the zones are basically just the same map with different modifiers. Once people are done with the remnant objectives all that's left is to ignore all the sites and scoop up enough salvage to sell, because remnants hold no map value. The entire mode is built around a gimmick that has no reason to be engaged with other than obsessive disorders.
>>562151712Yerp
>>562151712They should make tech remnants another currency you spend at the Deadsiders for Mortis Trial style boons
>>562149090It’s not odd it’s just weird there are two people here trying to get women into this game when it really doesn’t strike me as something that appeals to them
After trying out both DRG and Dark Tide, I don't think Dark Tide is for me. Thanks for asking and be sure to sub to my blog.
>>562152874Oh, she's been way into Warhammer lore and specifically Admech stuff since before I ever met her.
>>562152874Apparently she just likes admech>how do you know she's a she!Because trannies are better at video games and don't need crutch classes
>>562152951Hope you die irl
>>562153193me too
>>562152951Hope you live forever irl
>>562153008Oh that reminds me, it's kinda cute and sad why she likes Admech so much. She was born preemie and as a result is really frail and sickly, autistic and epileptic and some other health bullshit, she told me that made her really gravitate to their philosophy of replacing feeble flesh with machinery.
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>>562153673
>>562147724The total neglect of DRG sapped most of my interest over time, and DRG Survivors just killed whatever remained outright. Maybe, MAYBE I'll give it a try if it seems like people enjoy it after it releases, but I'll most likely do what I did with Helldivers 2/Payday 3/Killing floor 3, which is:>ignore the game for a few weeks after it launches>tell myself "well, I missed the honeymoon phase so now there's no point in hopping on the bandwagon late">continue playing other vidya
>>562155618>The total neglect of DRGI just started playing the game so I'm not sure what you mean? All the new seasons, cosmetics and the maps being randomly generated I don't see how the game could not be fresh. I guess after 100s of hours you could start to get bored but that's more a (you) thing and not on the devs.
aura that gives +1 dodge capacity fatshark hire me
>>562157094And increased dodge iframe time
>>562153673I kind of believe this larp since I got my mate into SM2 and his two favourite chapters are Iron Hands cause of his genetically fucked up brittle bones and the Salamanders because he has 3 young kids and all he ever wanted was a family but he knows he will likely be dead before they are 25.
>>562157740Forget astrology and Myers Briggs, we personality test with 40k faction preferences in this house
>>562157740>have dibilitating disorder that almost guarntees you a life of suffering and an early death>still have kids that you'll very likely pass this shit ontoAbsolute piece of shit
>>562158025nigga learn to spell
Ok so the april fools thing is in and speedwagon showed upWeird>>562144390I just used exp curios
>>562158698>I just used exp curiosSame actually, it wasn't bad at all.
>got invited to Rogue Core alpha testing>load it up>female dwarfFor fucks sake.
>>562158741I don’t like that curios need diamantine to respec, the only good part about the last event was getting 4k of it and I’ve been stacked for a while
>>562152951I think maybe I didn't give Darktide enough of a run and will give it a few more missions. Damn does it suck trying to do them with all new players as nobody know where to go. Maybe I should switch off veteran class too since everyone seems to say it sucks?
>>562159332Veteran does not suck, it's amazing in fact. However, it's one of the squishy classes so it is harder on a new player. You'll be able to stay on your feet and learn a lot better if you go with Zealot, Ogryn, or Arbites, they are your tanks and bruisers. Psyker, Veteran, and Hive Scum are fragile and more like a mage.
>>562158848I was hoping to get invited. I got fucked I guess.
So what is this years 4chan april fools gimmick?
>>562158025He is not a piece of shit, its literally 1 in 100 million chance and all 3 of his kids are healthy. If they had it, it would have been detected at birth or even earlier just like he was in 89'. He is one of 4 siblings and not only do none of them have it no one in living memory of his family have it.Its not dwarfism or whatever. The early death part is because he is not trying to live to 80+ and is basically working for his kids to be set by the time they are adults - which they are already - just because you cannot fathom a physical hindrance in life beyond being a leech and waste of space. Cunt.
>>562159902I bought the Arbiter or w/e it's called. These guys look cool af
>>562158025Sorry to say, dude, but >>562160760 just went ape to rape and gape your ass
>>562160760
Skibidi
Yeweaaaaahheahhh imma finna binna linna binna ginna binna boutta vomit on the floor ong fr fr bllertouoiugherggghhh
What counts as stagger fellow darktiders?
>>562159902You can make psyker pretty fucking bulky too, on vet I feel like a helpless little bitch sometimes
>>562169320You can see when enemies are staggered just by looking at them. Arbites can force enemies to count as being staggered just by using a talent and then hitting enemies in the weakspot/headd
>>562169469It's that simple? Nice
Do ogryns have big juicy COCKS an d BUALLS or did trannified official lore make them sterile or something
>>562152874Women can have a variety of tastes too.
>>562135181>It was the same when they released the Arbite skins for all the classesThey never did that.
why are fatshart so fucking lazy with cosmetics? how hard is it to rotate the shop every week instead of whenever the fuck they feel like it?
>>562140754Yes. Admech are very often team killing dickheads because they don't give a shit.You should never forget that the Adeptus Mechanicus is practically a sister empire that lives along the Imperium purely out of convenience.Admech also regularly ignores the Imperium when it tells them not to do dumbshit, and this is because on paper and in practise Admech has a fuckload of autonomy and they are the ones who solely operate the forge worlds, admech owns those 100%, not the Imperium.
>>562172274Ohh huh, I mean I knew they were separate but I guess I never considered thinking of them as two independent empires. That contextualizes it pretty well, reminds me of Star Trek imperial politics.
>>562144064Yeah, it'd be stupid. That's also the big possibility why it might happen specifically.You should never forget that 40k doesn't work off of logic and reason, most characters within are dogmatic retards who have their head up their own ass and thinking they can do anything and not suffer consequences. Admech is no different to this.Best way to look at it is that the Imperium is practically in a constant state of cold civilwar with itself and all the varying organizations are merely pretending to get along. This is the reason why the Imperium is so paranoid about traitors and heretics existing everywhere, because it is technically true.
>>562172195I don't get why it needs to rotate at all. I'd be more tempted to actually get something if I could see all they had to offer. Artificial scarcity is cringe, I want my peg leg.
>>562172608Yeah I think I understand the dynamic better thanks to this fella >>562172274Like I said I'm a star trek nerd so I could totally imagine like, some Federation and Romulan joint operation ending in betrayal because of some powerful technology mcguffin they want to claim only for themselves.
>>562172817Artificial scarcity is cringe but extremely effective. There's a reason gacha banners pull millions of dollars.
>>562173925yeah but darktide using it is simply retarded. only dedicated hardcore autists ever keep this game installed for any meaningful length of time. they could squeeze more money out of normalslime and autist alike by having the full store up.
i don't want to play as a fucking admech nerd, man. i suppose it would be cool if we could use those mechanical arms as weapons though. *farts just a little bit, politely*
>>562169494Enemies have a stagger threshold you have to hit, governed by the Impact stat. Blunt weapons obviously have higher Impact.
>>562174471>i don't want to play as a fucking admech nerd, manSo don't. You're not gonna be forced to buy the class, make a character or play it. Unless...
>>562174471skitarii aren't nerds, they are soldiers commanded by nerds.
Can't imagine anyone wants to play as cucktarii desu. You'd be playing as a puppet controller by Hadron or some even less important admech really. Kinda cringe if you ask me. Their interactions with the rest of the team, their callouts etc would either be really dry and boring or really not lore friendly. As far as gameplay goes it'll bring nothing new to the table. I'd rather see a tertium noble, a buffs/coherency based class. The last two classes they added were basically win more/main character syndrome classes. A slight twist on zealot/ogryn and a slight twist on vet with all of the annoying main character syndrome shit that zealot has. Would like them to another team play based class. I think a tertium noble could be a good fit there. Or a member of Brahms' retinue or something like that.
>>562178641god I wish hadron would cage me and control me
>>562178641>You'd be playing as a puppet controller by HadronI am diamond-fucking-hard
>>562153673>>562157740>>562158019Wow. That’s grim. At least 40k brought them some comfort…
niggas would get hard from a trash bin if it had a female voice
>>562169320Nightmarish image>>562168260Sex worthy image
>>562174151No I keep it installed because I have the necessary storage space and don’t need to delete it that’s it…
>game called Dark Tide>can't shoot black people
>>562180516Maybe they were black before their skin became green and goopy?
>>562180516chaos tainted people are unironically close enough
>>562178641I don’t think it’s same or cringe but that does remind me, do Skitarii even know they’re being controlled by Magos? Are they fully conscious of it as it’s happening? Can they still speak? Are they ok with it? I could think up at least half a dozen more classes I would prefer to see in Darktide but I’m also realistic and know that even if they do get in Fatshark at this point in time isn’t able to implement them in a way that would do them justice, I really hope Skitarii ends up being the most high effort class that feels different from the others but I’ve been tempering my expectations even on that front and know it will probably just be Vet with new weapons again.
>>562159332>Damn does it suck trying to do them with all new players as nobody know where to go.It only gets marginally better. The turbo noobs will get lost walking through the map backwards and then the game spawns a singular disabler to punish them for breaking away from the team, and they haven't learned how to deal with them yet so they get disabled and die.Even in auric (the highest difficulty in regular modes) you get retards who pay zero attention to objectives and don't know what they're supposed to do. Even after 200-300+ levels (visible with a mod) on that class.>Maybe I should switch off veteran class too since everyone seems to say it sucks?Veteran is very powerful, and plays an important role in the havoc 40 meta, which is as hard as the game gets. The downsides are that vet is a ranged specialist, but rando shitters won't keep enemies off your ass, forcing you into melee far more often than the class should be comfortable handling, which in turn pigeonholes you into a weird melee/hybrid build that unnecessarily eats a lot of your points. But also melee is absolutely mandatory to learn, and new players spend too much time shooting, then die to enemies behind them because they don't know the audio cues or aren't wearing headphones or both.The common recommendation is that a new player should play zealot until they're comfortable with the melee. Zealot is expected to do the least amount of shooting of all classes, and can bail you out of most fuck-ups if you build it right, so it's a great beginner class and will hopefully teach you how to play melee properly.Psyker and scum require good fundamentals and are what I would call more advanced classes.Ogryn will teach you bad habits as a new player, and arbitrator is loaded with so much toughness regen that it's kind of OP in the mortal difficulties so it'll also teach you bad habits.
>>562172608>>562172274None of this is technically wrong or impossible, but again, even the AdMech should know that in this current situation killing their only allies when they’re cut off from more is not a good idea, likewise, Grendyl probably knows he can’t afford to risk antagonizing them, so he’ll likely play along with whatever tech autism they have going on to keep them placated.
>>562178641reminds me of a main complaint that non-players have had since release 'hurrr why are they create-a-characters with no personality' if its a skittle they'll actually be correct for once, for one character. broken clock is right twice a day.
>>562061260>Holy shit, TWO cakes?!
>>562157094>Dodges out of aura radius
Reclaimator using Skitarii weaponsTrust the plan
>>562178641>You'd be playing as a puppet controller by HadronSo you're saying we get to have Hadron with us in every mission? This sounds like a win to me.
>>562181004>players spend too much time shooting, then die to enemies behind themReminds me of when I found out an IRL friend played Darktide so I suggested we play a game together. Booted up a Heresy match since both of us hadn't played in a while and he loads his level 30 vet. Within 5 minutes he's being decimated by basic hordes because he won't switch away from his bolter. Yes, he was also using the full Krieg paypig outfit.
>>562182661I trust it. People throwing out all kinds of retard suggestions after Scum, as if Scum didn't confirm they'll be following what established Acolyte cells look like. "sCuM iS juST a GuY tHo" thanks for proving you're an idiot.
>>562147724I haven't kept up with it much, but it seems like they're stripping away the mining elements from DRG because you'll be playing as tacticool operators. And most of the appeal of DRG for me is mining veins, shooting bugs is just to fill the time between. Also, holding tab brings up a minimap of the cave system you're in, might help with navigating.
>uncanny strikes retroactively affects soulblaze dotswtf
>>562184132>retroactively how so? the ones already applied?
>>562184360yes, you apply the dots and their damage ramps up after you start stacking uncanny
>>562184506uh seems powerful, but isn't rending only relevant with carapace? How does it work for Maulers
>>562184978I admit I haven't tested it out on maulers but it's very strong vs crusher packs
>>562184978it should be tested against flak, maulers are only carapace head, maybe against scab ragers it would test against carapace because theyre carapace chest
>>562184132That exploit's been known for a long time and it's one of the key reasons why weapons with uncanny strike are considered the meta for any build relying on DoT damage. It's also an entirely unintended synergy which is why new weapons with Uncanny Strike(like the shivs) have a nerfed version of the blessing. You were never supposed to be able to take out entire packs of crushers with the veteran's frag grenades, for example.
>>562185781cyurrent maelstrom is full scab
>>562185958>That exploit's been known for a long time >It's also an entirely unintendedoh fatshart
>>562185781both maulers and ragers are considered flak for the purpose of dot calculationsonly crushers are carapace for dotsbut flak also needs rending
>>562184132Nothing in Darktide snapshots, ever.Every instance of damage is applied individually at the current moment.If the source of the damage receives a buff, or the victim receives a debuff, ongoing DoT is immediately adjusted on a per-tick basis to account for those changes. Meaning: If you have rending + elite kill strength on your psyker sword, stack soulblaze to max, shriek, and then build your stacks on your sword, everything just fucking implodes. This is the actual peak performance h40 psyker build, but nobody plays it because darktards are dumb as fuck.>>562185958>It's also an entirely unintended synergyIt works exactly as coded, and would be trivial to fix if fagshart weren't too Sw*dish to code. They've managed to make the helbore cleave blessing only work while the helbore is equipped, nothing is stopping them from just separating rending into melee rending, ranged rending, and global rending, except for the need to write a quick script that updates all of this shit in the database, e.g. gives uncanny strike the melee-only rending version and such. But the eternal Sw*de is too incompetent to even think of such approaches, and evidently too retarded to even consult a clanker for help.
>>562186718>It works exactly as codedAnd it is still an unintended synergy.For fuck sakes, Fatshark removed the bolt pistol blessing shenannigans from effecting the Remote Detonation on arbites.In the past you could put on the explosion talent and puncture that absolutely raped everything caught up in the blast.Them removing that already proves this blessing shouldn't be happening.And they did it to Arby retardedly fast, because it was a new class, meaning people haven't gotten used to the bullshit exploit that much, so they didn't really care.Only reason why the devs haven't touched untranny strike on shit like the dueling sword and force sword is PURELY because shitters and the fucking CHINESE will throw screeching bitchfit and review bomb the game.
>>562187107Yes, I'm aware of the sino review campaigns. However, the exploit has been known for SO, SO VERY FUCKING LONG. It's been common knowledge before mainland China got upset over nerfs. They could've just fixed it earlier but noooo Sw*des can't fucking code, or know jack shit about their own games.
>>562187390>>562187107Speaking of swedejank: You know how spawns in regular missions are broken and spawn enemies at the very start and all over the level in places where there should not be any?They "fixed" this in the last hotfix, you know how? They didnt actually fix the issue they just prevented things from spawning at mission start specifically. Spawns are still broken everywhere else.The best part? They forgot to set the custom spawn exclusion area in some maps so they still spawn shit at start.They went for a shitty bandaid fix and STILL fucked that up
>>562187743They probably CAN'T fix it. They keep reintroducing old bugs into all of their games, which is evident of horrendous or nonexistent version control. Chances are they fucked up the code somewhere and can't roll it back and lack the knowledge to actually fix it correctly.
>>562187974am sure GW is preventing them from fixing the code, it's always on them ;=)
>>562187743>>562187974What is even the bug they are trying to fix? I know spawns are inconsistent, but what does it have to do with starting areas?
I would love to read through their code. I can only imagine no one there has heard of best practices.
>>562188129https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code80% of entries have nonsensical names that have nothing to do with English localized names.
>>562188129>best practicesa huge meme that unemployed worship
>>562188285>making your code readable and structuring it well so you don't accidentally break everything when you change a variable is an unemployed meme
>>562187390I agree with that. But it's not intended game behaviour is my point.
>>562188057they mustve messed up spawns and applied expeditions code to them or something. basically all areas in regular missions now spawn an uniform amount of enemies, regardless of location. Previously it had some locations full of enemies and some more sparse, now it just fills up everything consistently.Can be spotted very easily on dark communion where enemies now spawn directly outside the airlock again so you get killed during the cutscene. Or magistrati oubliette where they now spawn in jail cells and on inaccessible walkways they cant get off wither.
>>562188057The starting areas of most missions are meant to be clear of enemies mostly, mostly just for pacing reasons and probably dialogue.
>>562188990>Or magistrati oubliette where they now spawn in jail cellsNTA, but so that is what it is?I remember seeing that when playing an auric maelstrom with one of my friends and for some reason in the final jail cell section there was both 1 scab bomber and flamer in 1 jail cell.Was very confused about that.
Fagshart add nore weapon types for ogryn NOW
>>562188990Mortis trials doesn't have this issue. SefoniCHADS WIN AGAIN BAYBEE!
To be fair it did make Swagger more mysterious when he's able to stand there and act like nothing's happening while hordes of heretics and plague ogryns are rushing past him to kill you
hotfix status??
>do clandestium gloriana>reach the lateral tram>gunner gang just 4rd dimensional drifts into the tramNice spawns, fartshart.
Finally dipping into auric alone without friends now and it's perfectly fine and playableI was playing it with two friends the other day and we would be overrun and go down every other fight but now I'm thinking they're dogshit and weren't killing anything
>>562189237>Fagshart add nore weapon types for ogryn NOWI hate to say it, but at best we are only getting new weapons for the other classes in like 6 or 7 so months.And mind you there is no guarantee ogryn will get anything. Ogryn didn't get shit last year either.
>>562189548There is a non-zero chance you just got specific spawn RNG, which is seeded, and heavily weighted toward specific types of enemies.Flamer spam can be a fucking nightmare to deal with if you don't have someone that actually shoots them. Sniper spam can obliterate retards who don't wear headphones and don't know how to dodge.There's also a good chance your teammates were shit, or you all are shit and this time you just got carried by 3 better players. Or maybe you are much better than them. You'll never know unless you install some sort of scoreboard mod.
I like to run ahead alone while there's still enemies and then blame my team when something goes wrong
I blew my dakka load last night. Got deathdealer on my looger in mortis, literally never stopped firing woth twinstubs. Still didn't get the BLO penance done, but I made a ton of progress. In what world would you be getting this done in a reasonable amount of time outside of mortis?
>>562190692there's always enemies niggahaul ass
>>562190756>In what world would you be getting this done in a reasonable amount of time outside of mortis?I got it by just playing gunlugger. A lot of penances just happen naturally if you stop thinking about them, only a very small number of them really want to be target farmed.The only unnatural thing I did while playing LOOOGer was completely emptying my ammo reserves before exiting the map, but otherwise I played it like usual, conserved ammo, etc. and I still got it. If it feels like a grind you're either overthinking, or you just don't like playing ogryn.
>>562190909I know I said that
>>562191034It's probably that I like melee ogryn so much I don't loog often enough. I will say it's really fun just peeling captains out of their shields almost instantly. Hopefully that isn't just a mortis thing, but it seemed pretty consistent with every run I had.
>true survivor applies to my h36 lobby >has no current havoc rank DECLINED
so sad wildfire is bugged
Do you niggas sometimes host swat 4?
the force sword that does a heavy thrust as its first light is kinda sick
get them boys.webm
>>562193304That would be fun but I think my ping would be awful
bros this rogue core shit is hard as fuck solo god damn
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>>562193823>arabs after a football game.mp4
>>562191835This explains why havoc keeps dying more and more.
Skibbidi Crew?Rizz moves.Type shit. Fr.
>>562194367Only at your shitter rank.40s are alive and well.
A thread or two ago people were talking about the Karnak twins and how new players get absolutely filtered by them. Turns out you can easily get to Damnation before their mission and a lot of players probably over-estimate their abilities or don't understand their lack of ability makes things much, much harder than they ought.
>>562193524yeah, I think it would be awesome for one night to play either SWAT or RoN
you could be playing with 3 veterans, mark every single sniper and still be playing with laser dots for entire minutes at a time
>>562192163Bugged?Working as intended.
>Bought the red plumed shiny helmet for my hive scum>Expeditions patch turned the plume blackIs this a bug or did I basically pay for a completely different product than what I paid for.
>>562195860Sorry brah, had poxies on my ass. Had to melee.
>>562197818its a bug, certain shades are black now, which means theres a missing texture
>>562197818lol thanks for the aquilas, goyim
>expedition>40 minutes into malice zeta, final stage>snoygryn who never spent any of his salvage gets solo dogged miles away from the team>evidently didn't take FNP's push node like a fucking retard>ragequits before he can even take a single wound40 minutes, 8k expeditionbux, and he just ragequits because he got dogged. He was even in the easiest location to recover his mats, should he actually have died.Why can't pubbies just take the crutch skills that make them immune to dogs?What is wrong with these retards that they leave 5 minutes before the mission ends? I see this shit so often, too.
I played against rotten armor for the first time
>>562198872The best strategy against rotten armor is to simply play a mission that isn't hosting rotten armor
>>562198872I will join H40 Rotten armor Woth a heavy sword
>>562195860I'm still at the point of purposefully dancing in sniper sights to get the dodge penance done and getting annoyed when a team mates kills one before I get the chance
>Ogryn on team taunts>Enemies still attacking meIs my teams ogryn a beta? Did he stutter during his taunt? Why can't he pull bitches?
>>562195485No, not really. Just as dead.
>>562180892>do Skitarii even know they’re being controlled by Magos? Are they fully conscious of it as it’s happening? Can they still speak? Are they ok with it?The alternative is being some nobody manufactorum worker literally being worked to death under conditions so harsh that it would make OSHA non-compliant workplaces in the real world look safe, then having your remains servitorised and worked until your flesh breaks down completely, which is a long fucking time considering they can just replace failing parts with more cybernetics and use chemical therapy to keep cells alive for centuries. Next time you pass by a Medicae station, take a good long look at the servitor in it, you're that or you're a skitussy.A neuro-synced skitussy isn't much better, but it affords a much better life for however long that turns out to be than 99% of anyone born under mechanicus rule, or imperial rule in general. At least if you make good as a skitussy, your techpriest will keep you close as a personal guard.
>>562201260>randomly check party finder>2 lobbies openAre you one of those retards who doesn't possess object permanence and cannot imagine hypothetical scenarios? Because there's always a much greater number of ongoing groups/games that you do not see because obviously they won't show up on the fucking party finder.The only times I struggle to fill a party is during dead hours, which is to be fucking expected.
how do admechs reproduce? do they put peenor in vaginer?
>>562201967They put the USB in the port.
How's Payday 3?Has it become a smidgen better or does 2 still reign supreme?
>>562202174it's gotten a tiny bit better but it's still garbage and they completely gave up on pretending it's not a flop by scrapping plans for offline modestick to 2
>>562201967For the actual priesthood, gamete extraction and fertilisation, then they dump the resulting embryo in an artificial womb, typically, natural reproduction is pretty rare because it's pretty rare for admechs to keep their fun bits. Normal humans living under mechanicus rule reproduce as per usual.
>>562201960>havoc 40 isn't dead!>see there's TWO (2) whole H40 lobbiesYeah, buddy. You sure showed me.
>>562202353>Are you one of those retards who doesn't possess object permanence and cannot imagine hypothetical scenarios? I see that the answer is yes. Fucking retard.
>>562201849>>562180892theyre mostly vat born. its all theyve ever known. its not like they were in school as kids, went to work in a factory and then decided one day "i wanna make something of myself and join the military"theyre born and bred/created for that purpose. they believe they serve the machine god in this way so theyre probably entirely okay with it. for me, it doesnt make for a compelling player character class though. you might as well add a servitor player class. at least that could be another ogryn sized character with access to unique weapon platforms
>>562203443>for me, it doesnt make for a compelling player character class though.A single character can easily have two different personalities attached to it.>unit has sustained critica-a-a-*garbled*>[vox screeching] Varlets! Repair the servitor immediately!You may be playing a servitor, but half the voice lines may be from whatever tech priest handles that servitor.Also autistic binharic screeching from a skitussy would be kino.
WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY SCUM COSMETICS ANYWAYSHiver gangers in specific have so many cool opportunities to capitalize on, they can have so many different sets of gang clothing or merc armor sets, diverse since its literally the most open ended group of people, and yet fatshart refuses to let me give them sheckles. What's the fucking hold up?
>>562204608>What's the fucking hold up?insert generic cope about muh GW boogieman to deflect from Sw*den being the most incompetent nation to ever develop a video game
How would (You) Buff Heavy Sword/Nerf CRUSHERS to make this weapon more viable?
>the average globie veteran has no answer to armor outside of kraks and even then they use them against hordes of poxwalkers>they don't dodge>they don't melee>they don't do anything but shoot gun>but they don't shoot specials>but they don't shoot elites>but they don't shoot monstrosities>but they don't shoot dogsYou think these "people" are having fun?
>>562205173>Buff Heavy SwordMuch better armor damage on crits/weakspots. Think: built-in rending.>Nerf CRUSHERS Stop spawning them in packs of half a dozen, but actually this time, and make it fucking function in auric. Give them a flak weakspot in an inopportune location, like somewhere on their armpit so you can only hit it when they raise their arms to nail you into the ground.
>>562200025>ogryn's mfw face when his meme shouting gets ignored
>>562204608>he's still on Hive Scumbro get with the times, we're skitbros nowcan't wait to give fatshark more money so they can keep making game modes no one asked for instead of maps and enemies
why doesn't coopg host any lobbies?
>>562205173Give the heavy sword back its carapace damage. Increase its unyielding and flak damage.>crushersIf giving them all flak heads is too much to ask for, then add variations of the crusher spawn to have a random limb or body part to be missing a piece of its carapace and instead have infested flesh rotted out and is consuming the armor, becoming linked with the body. Adds variations to aim for while making it more nurgle themed. I think it'd help with weapon variation not feeling like ass if it doesn't deal with crushers. And would overall make crusher look more cool seeing them decaying and more corrupted.
>>562207261All the anime yandere players are probably at work is why
>>562207261I used to, not enough players joined.Also 4chan being filled with barely functioning autistic stalking weirdos necessitates that you have the most identity-less profile possible otherwise some nigger will doxx you for playing better than them. I've always been mostly anonymous so I don't mind, but I can see why others wouldn't want to bother with this shit.
>>562207357I mean in generalno one even hosts darktide lobbies
>>562202281how playable is payday 2 today?Are there any players?And is it worth grabbing if I've never played it?
>>562207579>host auric lobby>nobody dares join because this general is secretly 70% maliceshitters>nobody wants to lay bare their havoc 20 mark of shame to truelevel users
>>562207314It's unyeilding and flak is alright, it can shred reapers and maulers with bodyshots. Carapace is it's only real wall.
>vet's free cosmetics are among the best looking onesHuh, not bad.
>>562207698and that's what I don't get eitherso what if you or someone else is low level? it adds to the fun and funnynessif you had a friend who just got the game wouldn't you want to bring them to auric or havoc almost immediately?what's the worse that will happen? you lose? so what?
>>562207896>free cosmeticsvet>ogryn>psyker>zealot>paid cosmeticsvet>ogryn=psyker>psykerarby just looks like the enforcer armor that every class can buy but without the yellow stripes and no customization options. hive scum looks like hammered dogshit in every case
>>562207642Payday 2 still has playersThey recently hired an outside team to oversee maintenance of Payday 2, this has lead to many recent balance patches and new voice lines for Wolf (voiced by an ex-dev, said he'd never do it unless other people were in charge)imo its pretty good, only real issue is EOS
>>562208530>psyker>psykerTHE WARP CONSUMES ME!
>>562207314>variations of the crusher spawn to have a random limb or body part to be missing a piece of its carapace and instead have infested flesh rotted outisn't this already a havoc modifier? at least kind ofsometimes elites spawn with mutated heads and no helmet and the head counts as infested
>>562208530I like the scum's deluxe edition jacketit goes well with the free cosmetics with a bit of mixing&matching
>>562207261doxxing.
>>562208453I don't want to play difficulties lower than damnation because they bore me to tears. I wouldn't join a heresy lobby, unless it's to help someone with penances.
>>562208601>EOSwdym, are they finally pulling the plug?
>>562205173>Buff heavy swordBuff light attacks to do 100% more damage they are pitifully weak. Buff the heavy attack damage by 10-15% and make the heavy attacks faster/chain faster.>Nerf CrushersGive crushers flak armor heads.
>>562209570They released Payday 2 on EpicWhen they did, they forced Epic Online Services on everyoneMy experience with EOS is 100% desync at all timesApparently you can set launch properties -steamMM to enable steam match making again, but it'll probably have less playershttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2988343735webm of what EOS does to a game
>>562210195It is kind of funny that the abbreviation of End of Service and Epic Online Services is the same especially when Epic's various tools are pretty hated
>>562208624zealot should have been last place in both cases. my bad
>>562207261everyone here is terrified of being exposed as a shitterespecially that guy who keeps saying he exclusively plays "havoc" (not havoc 40, just "havoc") and calling other people "malicelets"
>>562207261There's been a few crazy fucks that try to doxx others or shit talk them in past threads like a crazy stalker.
>>562214192I play in the mortis kiddy pool without shame, thank you very much!(On auric)
>>562214192This may be a compounding factor as to why nobody joined my lobbies when I hosted, because I've never dropped out of h40 for longer than a week, and they shit their pants when they see how girthy my e-penis is.
>>562207261i've been browsing 4chan at least 15 years now. i can't imagine anything more stupid or unappealing than interacting with 4chan users outside of 4chan.this place isnt real. none of the users are real either. the whole spirit of anonymity and the dedication to that ideal guarantees us the freedom to come here and act however we want completely untethered from reality, our true selves, our egos. why would you want to upset that status quo, or peel back the curtain?
>>562189316When did that happen
>>562211758I hate EoS so much its Unreal Engine 5
>>562215258I agree, but as you should be well aware of, there exists people who can’t or are unwilling to adapt to site culture and still treat this place like Reddit so it’s not surprising there are those who want to take it a step further >>562207261Most generals don’t play with each other because it’s pretty riskyGenerals who do tend to be the exception IME
>>562194579>>562194093>>562193823Kino…
>>562195747I’ve been thinking about RoN a lot lately but I think I’ll wait for later >>562201849Ehhh, I would say 90 percent, but yes I agree overall
how do people queue up for auric without knowing the basics of the gamethe fucking retards I get would struggle in malice
>>562208530>arby just looks like the enforcer armorYeah, if you're blind that is.
>>562219875They should have made the grind to unlock the next difficulty require a deathless and/or lossless streak.
>>562219875>usually feel like my teams in auric are pretty good and we kick ass>posts like these make me wonder if I'm just a retard and don't know it
>malice zeta>shitter goes down often enough to die twice during every stage>see him facetank a poxburster while shooting at it (and missing every shot)>randomly calls in the valk based purely on vibesI decided to just wait it out with him and end the game because I really don't want to carry this mouthbreather.I know malice is full of braindead retards but holy shit how did he even make it to zeta?
>>562219875It's pretty easy to get carried all the way to auric. Most people don't look up builds, guides, or how to play better.>>562222152Persistence.
>>562222250How do you constantly eat shit, observe others NOT constantly eat shit, and still fail to improve?Also how are these players having fun hugging the ground for 50% of the match?
>>562222152I have had times where I'm trying to do the push mouse buttons while my ranged is out and the game doesn't switch weapons while RMB is held. And then I double switch back to ranged because I was pressing Q again to try and make it work. Really annoying and led to a burster in my face.
Heresy is the shitter filter. These players do not know to push poxbursters, waste their ammo on poxwalker hordes, do not shoot specalists or elites, do not use the omnissiah, use melee only when they run out of ammo, and have tunnel vision with glaucoma.
I'm trying to S rank Twisted Nerve but I keep running out of bean bags by the time I reach the tunnels. Am I retarded? I don't like using pepper balls because I end up getting excessive force penalties with them.
>>562222519>These players do not know to push poxbursters,I have a suspicion that, even of the few slightly less retarded heresylets, none of them experience the emergent gameplay of someone else pushing a poxburster, so they never learn by example. It might unironically be lost knowledge that they will never uncover.
>>562222353Fuck if I know. I've met a few people like that IRL where they just refuse to improve, don't reflect, and blame things that aren't them. In games, I think it's so long as they see the "You Win" screen they think they did well enough
>>562222353My man, have you ever played Monster Hunter?The entire game is a constant evolving tutorial, yet trying to play with randoms in G-rank is like having your dick flattened.
everyone in the meat grinder just attacked me when i was leaving
>>562223575It's just your imagination playing tricks on you, anon. I wouldn't worry about it.
>>562223575It's a new bug
>>562223460>My man, have you ever played Monster Hunter?No not really. I bounced off the game(s) really fucking hard both times I tried to play them, after spending 45 minutes in the intro and massively bloated hub that literally gets in the way of gameplay. I got bored before I even hunted a monster.I prefer games that respect my time.
>>562223575that's just Sefoni's psy-restraints slipping a bit as she tries to kill you. as a prank.
>>562224016>Sefoni got tired of watching some ogryn fruitlessly trying to make his karsolas pickaxe oneshot a crusher so she now pranks everyone when they least expect it
Goddamn. The sound effect that plays when you kill a special is so satisfying. Whoever came up with that needs a raise.
>>562226479Sound design in general is fantastic in Darktide. I fucking love the sound of firing the bolt pistol myself
What are the good blessings on the helbore lasgun?Is infernus good?
>>562229286surgicalhotshotweight of firedoesn't fire fast enough to get enough stacking mileage from infernus.
>>562229286I use Surgical on my heavy one because I like having literally infinite ammo. I also put Armorbane so it can shoot crushers good.Infernus is not good on the helbore.
Does the Expanded Weapon Customization mod still cause tons of issues?
Hot take: crushers and maulers should make loud clanking sounds when they walk around.
>>562231254Iirc they do do that. It's just the sound engine in this game is entirely fucked and the devs legit can't fix it.Reason being that the engine is both fucking ancient but it is also was NEVER meant to handle this many enemies/sounds at once.
>>562231254every footstep pushes the noise of a trapper or burster out of the audio queue
>>562231251Probably. I stopped using it a while ago because it caused so many crashes every update
>>562232041Was asking because I just saw it was completely redone after FINALLY recognizing it was a piece of shit causing constant crashing. Wondered if it was worth reinstalling.
>>562231816Nah they're straight up quiet as fuck. Ironically Maulers are the louder of the two because of the chainsaw sounds but their footsteps are completely non-distinct.
>>562231816This is a cope-out. With fatshark, there is a 90% chance they can't fix it because they're dumb as a brick, not because the architecture can't handle it or some other bullshit reason.Not to mention the implementation of many sounds. How come 4 gunners can, all on their own, completely drown out all other sounds? How come poxbursters can completely drown out all other sounds? There is NO REASON, WHATSOEVER that any of these enemies should be playing 6 gorillion sounds when sustained gunfire and tick-tick-tock noises could just use a set of loops instead.It's pure, Sw*dish incompetence.
>>562232452>anon doesn't understand sound channels and how audio is limited by them causing other sounds to not play
>>562232975Nice midwit take but it doesn't take more than 4 gunners to drown out all sound channels sometimes. But keep aping some forum retard.
>>562232452>not because the architecture can't handle it or some other bullshit reasonNo, this is a possible reason.You shouldn't forget that this game runs on Stingray which itself is old as fuck at this point and practically obsolete as well. Also the sound engine is actually shitting itself purely because it was never designed for a game that spawns this many enemies. Which is factually correct, because when you compare Darktide to what it was at launch and what it has then become it is like night and day, at launch this game was slower and methodical and actually spawned less enemies. But then over time when we got difficulties like auric and then maelstrom, and then the new skilltrees, the devs completely flipped the game's design philosophy on its head and started going into the direction where we are now.Darktide's inner workings are basically been held together with duct tape and string and hopes and dreams, the sound engine is shitting the bed because of the fact because it was originally designed for no longer even exists, and hasn't existed for like 3 years now.
>>562233506Even if this were true, it can not be rocket science to simply fix that problem, even if that involves rewriting major parts of the sound engine. A more competent studio would've done this. A less competent studio would've band-aid fixed it by assigning proper priority to certain sound cues. Fatshark is doing neither because these retarded Sw*des can't fucking do anything right.
Expeditions are genuinely the worst game mode I've ever seen in this type of game and I hope some people get laid off over them.
>>562233136The midwit take is not understanding all the other audio being used
>>562233506Stingray is their engine. It's not obsolete, it's in exactly the state they updated it to as of 2026. The devs are dogshit so they cant figure out the sound issues though. Other games dont have such sound issues. Simple as
>>562233921Buddy, they’re already operating with a skeleton crew, if they laid anymore people off they’d have to shut down and sell the company for scraps.
>>562234091>shut down and sell the company for scraps.Yes. Yes please this. I want this. This is the best case scenario. Let China buy the studio, I don't care. Sweden should NEVER be allowed to touch video game code.
>>562234218>Let China buy the studio, I don't care.>he doesn't know
>>562234954Holding shares does not imply leadership or major decision making. I'm sure Tencent was responsible for implementing the cosmetic shop (because it's the only thing that works, Sw*des couldn't write code that actually works), but they evidently aren't touching anything else because the game doesn't work.
>>561978167Faggot
Buff ogryn by rolling Smash Em and Best Defense into 1 node.Then add in a new node>New Playmates>Regen 3% toughness per second for every ally or enemy within coherency radius. Captains and monstrosities count as 2 enemies. Stacks 3 times.Also rework Won't Give In>gain 7% TDR for every ally in coherency.
>>562235151Tencent doesn't just "own shares" they entirely bought Fatshark in 2021. About 1 year before Darktide launched.
>>561978413Because the same fags are in every general. You know who you are.
>>562235151Why do you think Tencent gives a shit about making the game work?
>>562237579Simply not true
>>562237406combine Smash Em and Best Defense into one node.Move lynchpin into the slotChange Lynchpin to, coherency toughness regen is no longer disabled by melee enemies or damage for the ogryn and allies within coherency
>>562237406They just did buff ogryn.The dodge damage reduction is fucking retarded, I've never felt this invincible in the face of gunners. Some ogryn bro in havoc 40 reported that he doesn't bother pushing bursters sometimes to instead dodge into them, because the DR is more reliable than the bugged push mechanics.Ogryn needs to have their godawful bugged vaulting fixed, Skullcrusher needs a blanket nerf cutting its values in half, and then ogryn (and the weapons that were usable because of Skullcrusher) needs to be buffed to where it's useful without needing Skullcrusher.
>offworld auspex
So how many months until the dlc class that's probably skitarii hits? I'm guessing it will drop around skulls day.
>>562242515I can't wait for the announcement of the announcement being delayed by a week so they can cut the already too-short trailer in half and pad the rest of the runtime with a still image!
>>562242975what else do you see in the future or are you just going off of how this shit tends to go?
>>562242515June probably, before all the swedes go on their 4 month vacation
>>562243132My Beloved says we will receive another week of hotfixes that completely break an entire keystone because Swe-... oh don't say it like that, I'm sure they mean very very well!
>fun coop game stuck with shitty devs >look them up>sweden
>start game >select operative>infinite loading screenIt was fine 6h ago...
>>562243271>Damaged
>>562244565kek
>>562239748True>>562244319‘Irpa my wife…
What was the april fools thingy?Oh, i see now
My 20% hp doesn't work in havoc?? Why even put it in the game..
Anyone else mindless enter mortis trials when you mean to go to the meat grinder instead?
>>562253840It has happened once or twice
Am I the only one who likes the new update zone?
>>562255009Yes. This was all just for you
>>562255009There are many people with mental health issues
>>562253039Have to wonder what the criteria was for these characters
>>562255394You just need to prove that you're a real channer
>>562222353>play like shit on purpose>run shitty builds>be active detriment to team as much as possible without making it seem obvious>get carried or don't>report anyone who says anythingSome people's fun comes from making the game not fun for others.
>>562255394Anime website
>swing left swing right>swing down on big enemy
>>562207261I've posted my h40 lobbies for a good while but stopped like after a month or two when no one started joining
>>562266168We are two of one soul my brother
What do you mean 'push poxbursters', they dive when they get close
>>562270694You shove them when they dive. You want to shove them twice and dodge back though or you can still get hit by the blast
>>562255009I think it’s fine as a map. Finally something outside, change of pace in a content starved game. The game mode itself I don’t really care for or understand ig- why not just extract more or less immediately. Why continue risking the loot when you can just get out with it and go get more loot next match? Only reason I see is just if you finally get a good team and don’t want to risk getting paired with shitters again. But then why even care about the loot at all?Also you get spergs that insist on all splitting up to cover ground faster, getting hit by a disabler alone, and alt+f4’ing. So in other words it’s normal darktide
>>562238790>Skullcrusher needs a blanket nerf cutting its values in half, and then ogryn (and the weapons that were usable because of Skullcrusher) needs to be buffedYou know completely that they won't buff the weapons. They'll just nerf skullcrusher and leave it at that.
>>562242515Full reveal in May at Warhammer Skulls, and we'll get the DLC release 1 month later in June.
>>562244319stop noticing
>>562238790>t. Hank
>>562238790>nerf skullcrusher>kill ogryns viability and role in havoc>knowing fatshark the skullcrusher nerf will only effect ogryn and human classes still get the unnerfed 80% damage version skullcrusher on their weaponsYeah, this totally won't make everything worse for ogryn.
>>562238790Ogryn either needs his damage flat buffed across the board, or they need to rework his animations entirely to justify the long hang times after attacks. On any other class his damage profiles would be okay, but unlike other classes the thing that is holding ogryn back from feeling good to play is having a full second of uninterruptable recovery frames after swings in his patterns while said swings do NOT have enough damage to justify the downtime which is why half of his weapons just completely ignore their moveset, and considering fatshark still hasn't fixed the bolter jump a flat boost is more realistic. His damage really isn't there outside of extremely gimmicky AoE builds.
>>562275629Nta, but I wouldn't want to nerf skullcrusher at all.Ogryn is meant to be a support tank that debuffs enemies and buffs his allies.
>Beyond the HIVcos its AIDS
>>562276580Tertium's closed due to AIDS?
Oh how the mighty elitist have fallen
this should really read 'COMPLETE MISSION with scripture/Grimoire', cos I PICKED UP (and burned) a Grim and it didn't count
>>562277762Who?
>>562278924Yeah, but at least now you know it doesn't need you to do it personally. Same with the plasteel and diamantine, your team just has to bring it home for it to count.
>Wish to encourage players to use charged plasma gun more>It's optimal to shoot heavily armored enemies with uncharged shotsIs fatshark retarded?
Does this counter the extra creeping corruption of carrying grimoires
>>562284085Yep but not the base amount they apply just by being equipped
is blazing spirit worth?
>>562283414Game is fast paced, stopping to charge a shot is counterintuitive. Include the delay between trigger release and the shot actually leaving the barrel, then there's the issue of spotty hit detection and variable network latency on top of that if or when they happen. And then with all of this, you need to track and hit heads for maximum effect in a dynamic environment where your charge may be interrupted by a groaner poking you in the back because your damage output scaled your threat rating too high.There are so many things wrong with how the plasma guns work in a game like this that fatshark either will not address them or doesn't know they have to. Keeping in mind they balance for malice where none of the above presents a real problem, so yes, they're retarded, they're swedish.
>>562283414Yes. The game is unironically balanced around malice and anyone saying otherwise is in pure cope overdrive.
Which veteran shout says. "I want these karkers dead!"?
>>562284452Eh, not really. By itself it's kinda shit always, and you're better off running something like Slaughterer or uncanny strike on the 1 handed force swords.Though if you're using the great sword you can do a bit of a meme build with combining Blazing Spirit with Warp Slice, since it makes the psychic slash a guaranteed crit, which lets you apply soulblaze onto an entire horde with the psychic slash.But like I said, it's a meme build.
>>562284780Loose Cannon
>>562279660some elitist jerk
>>562284864Thanks
>>562284780Loose Cannon.>>562284562If the game was actually balanced around Malice then shit like Arbites and Hive Scum wouldn't be anywhere near as OP.If arbites was balanced around Malice1. you wouldn't even get the cyber-mastiff and would need to spend at least 3 skill points to "equip" it.2. arbites health pool would be only 100 HP3. arbites would only have 50 base toughness4. all arbites weapons would suck dick and wouldn't even be able to tickle maulersIf hive scam was balance around Malice1. the boom bringer would only have 1 rocket that fails to kill anything above heresy2. chem grenade would be worthless shit like flame grenades that only do like 20 damage per tick, and all enemies would just avoid the green goop like they avoid fire3. the bone saw would be a weaker piece of shit than the heavy sword4. rampage would give you gold toughness for every enemy you kill
>>562284780>I can show visceras, blood, demons, fused bodies but I wouldn't ever EVER swear
Holy shit, guys! Arbies and Scum got new cosmetics!
>>562285356I don't believe you. I'm not booting up DT just to check.
This gave me a chuckle. You can't even read them.
>>562285535Well obviously, you're an ogryn, you can't read.
>>562285175you act as if malice players can play on their baby mode without OP stuff thoughever. they are legally considered to be disabled.
>>562214192>stand aside, shitter, I only play havoc>havoc 1
>>562286789one probably means the first, sah
>console player, me and 2 bots >he has the auric storm survivor title on but i might as well have 3 bots >after my second time clearing a section with zero help i block and leave himhow does this happen, do they just spam maelstroms until they get completely carried?
>>562288518Try to be a better person.Try to be a better player.Instead of thinking how they are bringing you down, lift them up, so they can learn, and succeed.It sounds like you expect everyone to be masters of a video game, and in that fantasy, you get to just be carried yourself without ever having to put in effort.Be better.Do better.
>>562288794a filthy globie typed this
>>562274312>>562275406>They'll just nerf skullcrusher and leave it at that.Yeah I'm afraid this is exactly what will happen. Or they'll just give token "buffs" that they think are buffs but don't actually do anything.If Swedes weren't so fucking retarded, it would be so easy to fix ogryn. Right now, Skullcrusher IS a major problem, because it's not only overpowered, but also >ogryns viability and role in havocand if you take Skullcrusher away, half the reason to bring an ogryn is gone, and he's reduced to gimmicky taunt + rumbler builds and nothing else.However, this is likely a good thing in the long term. It will expose just how shit ogryn is as a class, hopefully get enough people complaining, and finally complete the ogryn cycle of buff-giganerf-rebuff to maybe even get ogryn to a good state of balance.>>562274687I don't groom children on Discord nor do I watch lying clickbaiting tidetubers with speech impediments, so I have no clue what the fuck this retard's opinion is. Says more about you than it does about me, don't you think?>>562275629The way I see it, ogryn's weapons just need slightly bigger numbers. Nerf Skullcrusher but buff all affected ogryn weapon damage by 30% or more, slightly buff the otherwise non-viable weapons because they don't have Skullcrusher by some 20% or so (yes, this will make pickaxes one-shot crushers in aurics again), give the knife better stamina economy and faster run speed so it's actually usable in its niche, and touch up the ranged weapons slightly until PBB is good and rumbler is no longer overpowered as fuck.It's really easy to have a panic attack at the proposition of nerfs, but ogryn has no build variety because the good shit is too overpowered and the class is balanced around using only the overpowered shit. Mostly because fatshark sucks. Nerfing top-end performance but buffing the class wholesale would be great in theory. Fatshark is just too incompetent to pull this off.
>>562288518>how does this happen, do they just spam maelstroms until they get completely carried?There used to be a time where you could get ASS by just alt+F4ing when you went down. In fact, I think the game only counts you as dead if you reconnect, so I think if you just leave and never rejoin that match in particular, you STILL don't count as dead? I can't exactly test it for obvious reasons.Don't underestimate a retard's willingness to whack his very empty skull against a wall until the wall gives. Leavers are part of why I stopped playing maelstroms. There were times I'd get 8+ leavers cycling through a single 25 minute match. I imagine there are retards with hundreds of left matches, still getting the penance because they do occasionally get 2 players carrying so hard that there's nothing left to kill them.
>>562289012And make the shovels work like combat axes
>>562288518Everyone has bad days anon
>it's another RTX-590 where you have to do all the objectives yourself or they're not getting done episodePLEASE! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE, STOP STANDING AROUND AND ESCORT SOMEONE WHO'S CARRYING A BATTERY!
>>562289389>me casually walking and occasionally right clicking to push the melee tards away while carrying the battery>meanwhile some ogryn is having a sweat off with his dodge key while trying to juggle the battery and killing poxwalkers and failing at bothAlways makes me laugh to see people like this.
>>562289513You forgot the>2 retards dying at the battery plugin trying (and failing) to spawncamp an infinite horde for a whole minute
>>562289513Push doesn't protect your rear, that's the main problem. Usually I'll slide because it gets the battery to its destination faster, but it would still be nice for someone to run fucking escort. I do it when someone else is carrying the battery.>>562289587Seriously, who's fucking telling these people to do this? It happens way too often for it to be unintentional.
>>562289645>Push doesn't protect your rearIt literally does lmao
>>562289695I've literally never known it to.
>>562289782My farts must be stronger
>>562289645>Seriously, who's fucking telling these people to do this?Game design, and emergent gameplay.You have 80 IQ individuals literally incapable of forming a coherent thought, druggies who only play the game high, and literal children playing this game.Most levels teach these retards that camping spawn doors = free kills, and they very likely got one of the many kill penances doing exactly that. It's safe, it makes number go up, and they're likely so damn bad at the game that this shit accounts for half of their kills and I'm not exaggerating.Next, most levels are completely linear and only go forward. This teaches the retards that all levels must therefore go forward. You stopped at the battery? Why, you must obviously go forward. Same deal with the battery plugin at the bridge. Go forward.The problem is that both maps make you backtrack, which goes completely against these retards' conditioning. Then add the fact that they're too overwhelmed just fighting 2-3 poxers to even notice the objective, and they will never, ever even consider turning around.>>562289695This is correct. The best way to carry the battery is to push spam on a class/build with fast stamina delay. The only problems are shooters and disablers, but you can dodge most of those.
what new games have quickplay matchmaking system like l4d2?
God Damn Hive Scum is FRAIL, and I thought the Psyker was made of paper.
>>562290341Scum more than any other class needs to exploit high mobility and dodging.
>>562290341you can dodge anything while sliding as him, pipe down
>>562290474You better be good at stamina and dodge economy then, because this is the test.
>>562244565der ewige schweden...
>>562289587>Cooling rods finale>Everyone is just jerking off by the medicaeDo they not understand that there's an objective to complete?
>>562291704>Do they not understand that there's an objective to complete?They don't. It's learned helplessness. Every time you carry a retard like this, you teach them that the objective will magically complete itself. If they don't get carried they wipe because they never learned how to do the objectives, even after 300+ truelevels.Have you never wondered why so many finales are piss easy? They are actually insurmountable for many retards.
>>562291791>Every time you carry a retard like this, you teach them that the objective will magically complete itself.I was like this for so long starting out with the auspex objectives, I had no idea I was getting another tool added to my kit temporarily and I was just like what the FUCK is happening???
>>562290704>increased dodge recovery speed>stamina recovery on successful dodge>high stamina numbers in general>dodge left and right for a minute without issue while slashing with knives>get to sprint infinitely as a bonus
>>562266168me with the rashad combat axe
>>562291870>servo-skull and auspex scanningThe scanning part is more intuitive than the servo-skull shit.>retard, I mean reject, I mean varlet, follow this floating skull and scan garbage cans in pre-designated, pre-approved locations. Such as this>servo-skull takes an air duct through a bathroom and drops 2 floors through a stairwell to go next-door to the area's entrance
>>562292039Stop implying at me I'm only trust level 21
>>562291870Real issue. Coop game where one person can complete the objective solo if they're good enough and you get an insanely slow learning curve for newcomers to overcome. It's why, whenever I play with a friend that's new to the game, I make sure to have them do the objective and guard them while they figure it out.You need the time and space to test the controls and what inputs give what outputs to ever learn and if you're either fighting poxwalkers while someone else does the auspex puzzle or getting your ass slapped the second you try your hand at it you'll never even get to see a pattern to start recognizing.
>>562292336I'm about to start highlighting the scan objects instead of scanning them. Just point the auspex at it for a second and let the other retards figure it out.
>>562291791Ok, next time I see retards just sotting around pointlessly killing thing I will just spam ping the cooling rods. I will NOT carry retards through finales anymore until they figure it out.
>>562292457Better not to even do that, they'll start thinking that the objective will be highlighted for them automatically. Just play ogryn or arbites or whatever else that is good at crowd control, kill and knock back everything to give them space and time. If you are doing a good enough job at that you can eventually find an opportunity to type in chat to tell them to figure shit out.
>>562292336>You need the time and space to test the controls and what inputs give what outputs to ever learnThis is what the lower difficulties are for, but retards are flying through the difficulties (blame fatshark) without ever learning fucking anything, and then end up in my auric games expecting to get corpse dragged to the finish line.>if you're either fighting poxwalkers while someone else does the auspex puzzle or getting your ass slapped the second you try your hand at itZero cooperation in a co-op game will lead to this exact thing, yes. I think the bigger problem is darktide being marketed toward one of the dumbest consoomerdrone fanbases (wh40k) AND shootertards, both of which are notoriously low IQ and couldn't cooperate if they tried. They literally, physically require an ADHD attention grabbing, flashing, multi-colored, humongous arrow on the screen that screams at them to "PROTECT THIS GUY!!!!" else they'll run around and camp a spawn door.
>>562292829Maybe they should extend the amount of games needed to increase the difficulty from 5 to 8. If you are like the average player you gauge your ability by raising the difficulty, but you are still leveling up and learning maps by the time you are granted access to Heresy. And Damnation is when the enemy numbers are beginning to hit that tipping point. People being dragged to Auric is probably not uncommon because 5 games is not that hard. I will say that I am way more discouraged when I see Globies as compared to Steamies. Globies are almost always bad; They are allergic to melee, have reaction time of sleeping slugs, teamwork is almost non-existent, to them objectives are secondary, and all the ammo is theirs. What's interesting is that most people do spend the moment or so to 'create' a character. And with the skin-tones and facial structures you do get some fairly generic looking caricatures. Do with this knowledge what you will, but I use it to fucking profile and it's working pretty fucking well. Steamies are a mixed bag but some of you guys need to stop playing drunk or high.
>>56229324625* games is not that hard
>>562293246>Maybe they should extend the amount of games needed to increase the difficulty from 5 to 8.No, there should be a mandatory checklist of things you must do to rank up before you're allowed in auric.>complete 30 objectives (this must be you, not someone else doing it for you)>complete 5 auspex hacking puzzles>use your auspex to scan 5 objectives>plug in 5 objective barrels>highlight 10 pickups followed by an ally picking them upetc.
>>562293449Some real basic levels of entry should actually be trust levels. No Heresy till Trust Lv20 or Damnation till Trust Lv30.
>>562293657I disagree, mostly because player level is meaningless. I've seen the most clueless truelevel 300+ players. Anons here have reported seeing 4 digit trueleveled Malice warriors.
>>562289012>However, this is likely a good thing in the long term.I agree with this, but at the same time this is the swedes we are talking about. I have zero faith to do a good thing in the long run.>It will expose just how shit ogryn is as a class, hopefully get enough people complaining, and finally complete the ogryn cycle of buff-giganerf-rebuff to maybe even get ogryn to a good state of balance.Call me a cynic, but I think that cycle will never be over for ogryn ever.He'll forever be cursed because the game he was originally designed for (how darktide played like around launch)no longer exists and the devs have no incentive to ever go back to it.
>>562293787I think we can both agree that "complete 5 missions to unlock the next difficulty" is too low of a bar.
There should be a new title for havoc. True survivor is meaningless because you could have gotten it when havoc launched season 1.I propose a true autism survivor title. Complete ten consecutive havoc 40 missions in a row without going down a single time (teammates don't count.)
>>562293246I don't think it would change much. If you can get carried for 5 games you can get carried for 8.Ideally I'd like a solo trial mission you have to clear before you can play above heresy/damnation (deal with a couple ragers running at you, clear a room full of gunners, solve a few hacking puzzles, kill a crusher, etc.).
>>562293885Oh absolutely. I just don't think level gating is the way to do it, because progression in Darktide isn't that linear.You can give a clueless retard a level 30 character on an account with infinite mats, and they'll still pick all of the skills on the right side because it has the cool picture at the top, take 2 crit perks on all weapons, and blessings that sound cool, then proceed to do nothing but constantly eat shit and deal half the damage of the second worst performing player.Meanwhile someone with a vague idea of what they're doing can be just fine in aurics by around level 20, and that's only because some important deep nodes may literally be necessary to complete objectives solo because the other 3 retards won't. Doesn't even need infinite mats to allow for perfect crafting either. An Infernus lasgun or puncture bolt pistol do in fact just fucking work.
>>562294039>Kill a random monstrosity>Kill two
>>562293986>True survivor is meaningless because you could have gotten it when havoc launched season 1.Allow me to translate:>I'm extremely salty that I don't (and never will!) have True Survivor so I need to come up with some retarded cope to devalue the title for those that do have it>I also don't believe it's possible to get it anymore because I can't therefore nobody can because I'm the goddest of god-gamers that exist, I'm infallible and can never make mistakes!
I have a very fond memory of getting a friend into darktide, we play heresy for the first time and he gets mauled by the very first rager on the map standing still trying to shoot it.
>Join up with someone for Havoc 30s/Auric Maelstroms>They start inviting people with single digit levels>"Trust me bro this is going to get you so many levels if we do this"It was like being in the front seat with a madman but it was fun
>tubemaxxingWhen are they going to come out with psyker legs that have tubes everywhere?
>>562284857you need a talent for that tho. Also christ this slice feels like a gamble sometimes I kill specialists sometimes not, even at full charge
>>562289012>rumbler is no longer overpowered as fuck.To nerf rumbler all they need to do is just put a hidden -50% chance to trigger oucky bullet.
>>562294648>Tubes get snagged on something>Your warp juices spill everywhereHow embarrassing...
Which force sword variant should I use?
>>562286936
>>562292336>real issue. Coop game where one person can complete the objective soloits literally just this. this anon nailed it. you can, and likely will get carried to auric/level 30 just by coming across a pubstar zealot every few games. now and then it could be a psyker or arby. but they will carry players, gleefully showing off, rushing ahead, and generally just doing things that would make them an utter fucking nuisance/liability in high havoc and sometimes even tricky aurics. then when shit hits the fan, things go sideways, the mission is failed and the pubstar blames everyone else and then comes to 4chan to cry about how most of the players aren't that good and don't know how to push objectives or solve mini gamesthey need to FORCE cooperation. the way it works in expeditions with needing to get most of the team on the point is actually a good step
>>562295091For the normal force swords?>general use / easy to use horde self protectionillisi.>'Crushers could be here.' strong single target combo but more finnicky to use movesetDeimos.
>>562295125the joke is that the slice fucking sucks?
>>562295223>the way it works in expeditions with needing to get most of the team on the point is actually a good steplollmao, even.Most of the "sit on point" objectives are just 1-2 people sitting on it. It's unironically more time efficient to have the others split away and do other objectives while also hoovering up mats.Yes, even in auric. If you can't hold your own against a horde, you do not belong in auric, and after the first stage, you should be able to trivialize a critical mass of enemies by just using a consumable, which you definitely should have, because getting 300+ salvage isn't that hard.
I sure love getting blocked from dodging by fucking props while the enemies can clip into each others, slip behind you, gain bonus ms to shank you from behind
I'm grinding pro-trader, so I just >ignore tech remnant objectives (I have this achievement already)>leave after the last sanctuary because I can't spend anything after anywaythoughts?
>>562297323Waste of time considering more nodes will be added later. You are minmaxing penances because you are bored. Play another game.
>>562297323It's one of the more efficient ways of doing it.My recommendation would be to just play zeta, which has the most stages that allow you to collect scrap, and instead of leaving, just play it on characters that have melk assignments, and actually complete the games. Unless you already have 200k melkbux banked, you might have bad luck with random curio rolls when skitussy releases.
Does playing expeditions on a higher difficulty give you more of the currency?
>>562298436No, but it does inoculate you against the normie shitters who have finally made it into the deep nodes, because they would never dare select auric zeta. This does indirectly increase your odds of getting more currency, because you have fewer dead weights to corpse drag to the finish line.
So in 3 years Darktide managed to double in size withotu offering real content beside paid cosmetics.Amazing.
cleared my first auric maelstrom 56 hours total... i thought this game was supposed to be hard?
>>562299214How much time did you spend on the ground?
>>562299214it's hard for the shitters who infest this general like rats
>VT2 after 3 years11 maps added25 weapons addedweaves, twitch mode and chaos wastes18 careers total>DT2 after 3 years9 maps added20 weapons addedhavoc, mortis trials and expeditions6 classes total Thoughts? I miss having tons of careers, DT has 6 classes each of which is supposed to equal to 3 careers but I think it's cope looking at Hive Scum and Arbites trees
Today I will NOT get distracted after work and finish my looger penances in Mortis. Then I'll need to find 60 enemies to charge through, currently at 59/60 :(
>>562299867most of the new vt2 maps are not good, the bogenhafen ones suck, beastmen sucks, and 4 of them are just ports from vt1, hardly newthe new weapons are just bloated numbers because they cant used by multiple characters for better or worseweaves and twitchmode were dead when they launched18 careers is largely not important, because all it does is affects your ability and some of your talents, two of the tiers are generic, the skill system they have in dt is better because you can customize what you want a lot more than you could in vt2, with more viability, for the longest time, several careers were just bad
>/copesneed/ fucking diesgood
If someone were to run a rumbler or kickback for example on a looger build with BLO, and they had and autoclicker set really fast, could they just shoot really fast wothout reloading when they're out of ammo?
>>562300771yeah I'll never understand people praising the brown elf maps they were atrocious. The thing that actually require work, the weapon pack, ,has been delayed FOR A YEAR
>>562295261NTA, but what about Obscurus?
>>562300878>The thing that actually require work, the weapon pack, ,has been delayed FOR A YEARThat's unironically because the old devs left the company. I don't think ratfags will ever get that weapon pack, ever.
>>562300860That only works with full auto weapons. Kinda funny with the rippers.
>>562299867>>DT2 after 3 years>9 maps addedMost of these being just lazy rehashes of the same assets, for example Mercantile 70-04, Warren 6-19 and Dark Communion are all just the same map.And Rolling Steel and No Man's Land are small mini missions.>20 weapons addedMany of these aren't unique and are variantsIn reality we've only gotten around 11 new weapons.>havoc, mortis trials and expeditionsAll of which suck dick in some fashion and are bad.>HavocJust boring slog, it's just wall of metal after wall of metal where 90% of the weapon roster and talents are unusable dogshit. And despite what people say, over all the game is being balanced around it now, evidenced by Arby and Scum, and that balancing is actively rotting everything downstream of havoc.>Snoretis trialsA waste of time, piss easy and boring.>ExpeditionsQuite literally should've just been Chaos Wastes.>6 classes totalVet and psyker are OP as fuck and dictate the game around it.Zealot has been reduced to a chorus bot heal bitch.Arbites is just a better ogryn in everyway with better guns + dogScum is just game breaking, but only reason why it isn't as big of an issue is because 90% of Scum players are dogshit and bad at the classOgryn is a aggro-stagger bot and might as well be an after thought now, that is constantly getting bullied and is in an eternal buff-nerf cycle.>Thoughts?Not great.
Just let this general die.
>>562302332No.
>>562302460>>562302460>>562302460>>562302460>>562302460MOVE
>>562302526>>562302526>>562302526
>>562302565retard, delete
>>562302487Well shit, I tried deleting mine but it won't let me.Just use the rat thread and ignore the dwarf one.
>>562302956you have to force it to delete
>>562301334yeah am starting to support this theory
>>562302750Nigga, I'm trying but it won't let me.
>>562303284TRY AGAIN NIGGA I DID IT LAST WEEK QJHQGQDOQDOQDQ
>>562303564IT WONT LET ME I DUNNO WHYI HAVE SELECTED IT LIKE 20+ TIMES ALREADY AND IT JUST SAYS "YOU CANT DELETE THIS THREAD"
>>562303770NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>562302565>>562302487Probably the first time I’ve seen this happen here. Good reminder to always announce before a bake.
>>562294431sounds like he didn’t play the tutorial>>562293986sex
>>562288794>>562289327Based.>>562288848And by that you mean epicucks. ;)
