Terrain Edition>Previous>>561975532>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSFeb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14Mar 17 Entrenched Division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0Mar 17 Roadmap https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/2033907671036743796Mar 20 Uncover the Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_uyAaJ3Z0>LATEST PATCHESMar 17 1.006.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541133047968301984Mar 25 1.006.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/507356684541232939
Surely there won't be any more autistic screeching inside this comfy Helldivers 2 general
i'm biting my nails right off!!!
>>562037865
>>562037989lol
>>562036281 2/4
>>562038041i wish they would
>>562037989We still have a few hours until mr Slippers has to go toil the fields.
>>562038041>piss god>faggot works
>>562037989smooch for the elf
>tr*nime spam right off the batgrim...
>>562038041>it knows
i thought engine shots stopped killing the carried troops at some point, or is that only after the dropship stops?>>562038041>anime better>brown discord
>>562038602>little enemiesbig enemies
>>562038714>x4the explosion of the dropship impacting the ground killed some troopers or scout stridersit's not enough to do anything more than that
Honestly i'm running out of ideas for fun squidder loadouts, i genuinely hate the MG's and most weapons dont seem to have the ASS required to deal with the 5 trillion summer mosquito watchers properly
>>562038783it killed the factory strider
>>562038837it looks alive in the last frame idk
>>562038972actually, its standing diagonally as it lands, then gets ported into a death ragdoll due to the dropship bullshit
>>562039083sounds like stingray gave you a freebieusually shooting the engine does jack shitmaybe shooting the engine during the decceleration phase does some dizzy to the damage calculationno idea
>main objective to fuel icbm STILL fucking bugs out and prevents the completion of the missionFIX YOUR FUCKING GAME YOU RETARDED SWEDES THIS SHIT HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR FUCKING EVER
>>562038041>based blob>piss god chink>nigga saying bugniggers perfectly
please...it's been years...where is the APC...
>>562039353>sit on a mountain of content that has been finished since release>slowly dripfeed itso this is how you keep a game going for 10 years
>>562039409Didnt someone anon say it got deleted from the files?
luv leveller simple as
>>562039850that was half a year ago and it's been readded and removed like twice in between
>>562039353What purpose would the APC even serve at this point?>the FRV was already plenty tough except against actual anti-armor ordnance, which surely the APC couldn't withstand either>the FRV could already just speed past any major threats, whereas the APC likely isn't fast enough and would probably eat a bunch of damage in the same situations as a result>the FRV already allows players to lean out to fire their weapons, or man the rear-mounted HMG, which is more than enough firepower to engage whatever you're speeding past>the FRV's only real problem is the ease with which it can be flipped, which is largely due to its speed and agilityLike, unless there are explicit situations where speed is a liability and the enemy is missing all of their explosive and anti-armor weapons, I don't really see why the FRV wouldn't suffice.
>>562039409>release an open beta>call it live service and charge full pricegenius...
>>562039850that doesn't really mean anything, if anything they likely realized that having a 90% finished unused vehicle in the files for two years would rile people up eventually
>>562039940........fun...
Since the Illuminate released, I haven't seen a single (1) fleshmob get blocked by walls or buildings while trying to catch up to me.Not a single one, they all phase through everything.
>>562039940the APC would be sturdier than the FRV while also doing a better job of protecting yourself and the passengers, you won't get set on fire by the incel corps and you have a mounted larger caliber autocannon for heavies and outposts/nests as well as some kino double stalwart action.Also depending on the swiggerisms at play it should also be pretty hard to flip it whether that be by going too fast or getting hit by some explosives.
>>562040236It's pretty funny that this has been an issue since Fleshmobs existed and its still ignored
Next warbond is Horse FuckersOne emoteYou spawn a horse and fuck it.Premium Warbond3000 SC
>>562039940the biggest problem I have with the FRV is weapon variety. I really just want to be able to hot-mount any support weapon on the back and add magazines to its cargo and i'd be happy>tfw no autocannon FRV>tfw no SPEAR/TOW FRV
>>562039940Since the APC is an armored carrier with a better, unexposed turret, I would expect it to be a pretty good transport vehicle for aggressive entry. Think like driving it into the middle of a bot encampment, letting 1-3 divers get out while the gunner provides autocannon fire support.I'd also expect to be a lot harder to flip or push around unlike the FRV, which would also make it pretty good as mobile cover in open areas.
>>562040574i hope it's a mare
Headcanon, Fleshmobs are more soupy than they appear ingame. Instead of a single solid mass of bodies, it's actually a writhing dark-fluid like corpse amalgamation. This is why they phase through walls.
Headcanon, Fleshmobs are mounds of illuminate shit. Thats everything about them is shit.
>>562040574Your brain on uma gatcha.
Freedom greetings helldivers, we here at Arrowhead Inc (TM) (C) are very excited to announce the PRODUCTION OF FREEDOM update, now the portion of players not actively parked in an MO planet WILL have to work in factory planets>you WILL lovingly stuff each 120mm shell with napalm>you WILL handload every single round in a gatling sentry that will later be instantly evaporated 2 secs after deployment>you WILL hand-assemble every FRV's tranny>you WILL sabotage airburst and flak shells so that there's always the one shrapnel that'll take someone's head smoove off...
>>562040574
>>562039940Doesn't flip over whenever it touches a rock above walking speed.Doesn't eject the gunner whenever the driver hits a wall.Doesn't constantly result in the gunner killing the passengers because they take up a significant amount of the gunner's frontal arc while leaning out.The passengers and gunner not being a constant threat to each other means they can more safely independently cover different angles from the vehicle.Passengers and crew presumably don't die of gas and fire while inside the vehicle.Etc.
>AH copies over some of the code from the Bastion to the APC that lets it stay grounded pretty consistently>but it was launch-Bastion code so dinging cars in cities and colonies turns you into the next Kerbal Space Program
>>562038831AC
>>562041493Carmagheddon
>Drive Car in Cyberpunk 2077 off-road>Kinda wacky but managable>Drive FRV in helldivers 2>Flips over when you slowly go over a rock and explodesCool.
>>562039940good bait
they call them mindless masses because you need to be a mindless mass to enjoy that crap
>>562040574does it have a snowpity
>>562041493would be kino desu
>>562039940>the FRV's only real problem is the ease with which it can be flipped, which is largely due to its speed and agilityThe reason the FRV flips so easily is because it's simultaneously extremely light and top heavy.
>>562039940If they made it tracked it might be tight desu
>>562041873They'd be fun if they got rid of any Illuminate unit other than the Overseer, increased the amount of spawns, and then added one or two Necromorph-esc Voteless types.
zombiessteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244656482755/76561198008364447come level up a gun you never use or somethin
>>562042263No. Reason is retarded physics.
>>562042817That's what he said.
>>5620427632/4
YOU DONT GET IT BRO. I NEEEEEED TO TAKE ALL FOUR SUPPLY BOXES BECAUSE MY ULTIMATUM IS A DIRTY LITTLE THROAT SLUT THAT NEEDS IT ALL
>>562042975No, he said that reason is design flaws.You can have extremely light vehicle that also stable. But you need actual physic instead of dogshit.
>>562042389yeah we need more body horror.
>>562043423>MY ULTIMATUMPet names are cute
>>562042817If they increased the weight of the FRV it would not be nearly so easy to flip, this compounds with the fact that they've modeled the FRV to have most of it's weight too high in the vehicle.
>>562043718Die nigger
I think the FRV is supposed to be a satirical take on the warthog from Halo: CE, except the swedes don't understand that this makes it not fun at all to drive. The warthog is a floaty, lightly armored technical that you can flip with grenades, but it doesn't explode from 0.5 seconds of small arms fire, or flip over because you turned too fast. It's like a cheap chinese knockoff, and the swedes will tell you that's the point because super earth is evil, even though they are the ones that made it so shit.
>>562043718rawp
>>562043893I believe in german this means "The Nigger"
>>562043110>failed to joinit's joever
>>562040574guess im cranking it to fictional realistic horses againHelldivers 2 loadouts for this feel?
AC? What'd you need that for? Just take off or put on more clothes dummy
>>562044535orbital laser + the mod that makes it play the mambo rap while active
>>562044535>Mr. Hands build
>>562043753You have tanks that pushed by little bug.Changes weight will change nothing. Need to make physics first.
>>562045723This. In helldivers a vehicle is a very movable object, and an enemy that is walking forward is considered an unstoppable force.
Do we have a mod about tanhaunser being the portable hellbomb and saying mambo?
>>562038831Coyote and dickle can both obliterate flies if that's what's causing you trouble.
>>562038831maxigun or cremator? they're both pretty fun although the maxigun requires you to hog all the resupplies. de-escalator and supply pack ain't half bad either, just spam the shit out of everything
>>562045723The FRV is moved so easily due to a combination of objects in this game having next to no friction and enemies not being full physics objects which causes them to interact strangely with objects fully under the influence of physics, since they can just pass through physics objects as if they're ghosts.But this is irrelevant to the fact that the FRV would objectively flip less often if they made it heavy enough that it just kept its wheels on the ground more.The game demonstrably has physics just due to the fact you can observe things fall down with simulated gravity and physically interact with each other.
>>562040236it's so bad even voteless are doing it now
I hate these motherfuckers
This is a realistic picture of an explosion with a damage radius of 3-4 meters.
>>562046492Used to be an audio one I used but it hasn't been updated since last year
Lobby doko?
>>562040704>I'd also expect it to be a lot harder to and pushnigga a single basic voteless can push the exosuits wreckage uphills...theres no way they wouldnt give it god awful ammo reserves and paper thin armor whilst also being cumbersome to maneuver and only slighter faster than the exosuit.
>>562047985not happening
>>562047839It's joever.
I have inside knowledge that the stoker is getting hugely nerfed next patch
>check helldivers companion>ETA victoryat rirga bay in 11 hours>MO ends in 10 hoursIzzat rigging
>>562041129...Damn. Actually that could be a interesting tie-in. Be a Super Earth factory worker for a stint, and depending on how well you do, it can result in bonuses out on the Frontline. Or do a fucking terrible job and somebody's Super Destroyer gets fucked up/defective stratagems. If your "planet" comes under attack, you're booted out or otherwise have to run to a space port to get rescued by Helldivers. A certain type of person might play it. Might make a neat tech demo. Or could be integrated with an eventual SEAFie tie in. Escape your factory alive with nothing but a Peacemaker/Constitution/bolt-action, and you might be able to "get recruited" as a SEAFie.
The mech pilot warbond, APC, FRV customization and Illuminate Cultists are right around the corner, possibly being drip fed between now and August. Will you bow your head and thank arrowhead for finally delivering?
>>562047724the fleshmobs of hd1>dmg sponges even when shooting their weakpoints>will spawn right under you>do massive chunks of your hp>get faster when near death
>>562039940>Faster than running movement with a 360 coverage from a AC cannon Its going to replace the tank and FRV instantly is the 'problem'.
>>562048615Their roadmap says next content update is bugs.
>>562048612isnt this just foxhole
>>562048419good thing ive got it to 25 and hence it will be shelved for the forseeable future
>>562048615why would you thank them for adding content that should have been available at release?
>>562048615>thanking arrowhead for shit that they haven't actually released yet which is almost certainly going to be broken for a month+ on release
>>562048615The APC and vehicles would come after June since thats when the roadmap ends.
Last digit is how many strategems/primaries will be disabled on the next patch
>>562048990I BELIEVE
>>562048990I'm interpreting that to be ten, but to their credit I will lump things with crazy tie-dye color schemes as broken as well.
>>562047985its real dadgamer hours.I am at my fulltime j*b, I can't play except shitpost here.
>>562047265De escalators problem is its dogshit reload, too many fliers, inconsistent zapping and long reloadCremator is good but lacks the range youd want a support weapon to have to deal with harvesters BEFORE they instagib your sentriesMaxigun is fine, but needing PP so it doesnt feel bad to turn always sucks>>562047056Ill give the dickle a try, but yeah, usually im already dealing with other stuff when 5-10 of those things materialize from the ground>>562041535Was my first thought but>shoot at middle of pack zoomer>staggers 2, kills 1>shoot at front one>kills it, rest ignores>shoot at ground under them>slight stagger and maybe a kill>shoot more than once at the group>watch as a single obtruder needs 3 shots to kill suddenly>also, harvesters
Happy Creek Day, fellow creekers!
The april fools day update will add the robutt
>>562050290
>>562043971They built it to do stupid warthog tricks, you just don't happen to be supersoldiers. The fuck do you expect to do about a multi ton automobile flipped ass over tea kettle? Furthermore, most vehicles drive like absolute shit off road without high clearance. It's all about tradeoffs. Shouldn't even be complaining, because they put in logic to magic it back upright that they really didn't have to. >>562040645Hrrrm. How would the spear one work? Mount the launcher then reload each shot? That'd be a pain. Dedicated launch platform though you could add a spot you could press E with the spear backpack to reload the inventory of the vehicle with munitions from, then reload with 'R' in batches of up to 4 would give serious Hilux special vibes I suppose. Could use the same system for every other backpack fed weapon as well. Though the launcher for recoilless would probably be four RR tubes duct taped together. Could even make it so your backpack attaches to the vehicle, so if the vehicle is destroyed before you detach it it's lost. Interesting bit is that could actually open up some new niches and opportunities for missions. Like High speed heists or intercept missions where you've got to catch up to things. Or really, crazy new missions where like drops/breaches are constantly happening behind you and you've just gotta keep fending shit off at speed til you get where you're going. The Spear-RV or Recoilless/AC RV would make blitz missions an absolute breakneck "Let's fuckin goooooo"-athon
>>562050086but it doesn't have a bad reload, and the drones get shocked just fine
>we're getting another smart pistol nextDon't know why they haven't buffed the stim gun but I'll take it
>>562050493it fires a stim missile
>>562050403they didn't build it for that though, and it doesn't weigh multiple tons
>>562050493Anon.... they did... They increased the projectile speed and the amount healed and healing rate. 2 Stims basically functions as fast as a personal stim. And a single stim from a medic will heal you to full and some buffer damage during the heal. Its actually pretty good now. The sway is still ass though.
>>562046492>>562048124I gotchu sugartitshttps://files.catbox.moe/imyz1c.zip
>>562050086it fucks everything in the squigger roster minus the gayviathan.
>>562050493the stim gun doesn't need autoaim like the warrant, and I wish shitters and the devs (also shitters) would get that dumbass thought out of their heads. just. remove. the giga-sway. it's that fucking simple. once you no longer have to account for your diver having cerebral palsy, accounting for the travel time of the stim will be a learnable skill and consistent ranged stims will skyrocket. turning it into the heal warrant is just going to make it brainless and arguably too good, and then the devs will have a bug up their ass about it like "oh we made it retard-proof for you guys, what more do you want, aren't we generous?"
>>562040746they clip through all cover and never get speed decreases with any terrain because swiggers caint code wurf sheeeit
>>562050790truth tsarbomb
>>562050493I used to miss almost every stim but now it's easy. They don't need to change it anymore.
>>562050524Doesnt seem like it. Looks like it fires a tin rocket and is single shot
do ems strikes slow down fleshmobs charging at all?
>>562050403I just envision it like a TOW mounted launcher on a humvee. gameplay wise it would just be like the HMG where it works like a regular support weapon just on a special mount. They could probably put an interaction point on the back sides where you could dump ammo if you wanted.Or they could just go full humvee avenger layout
>>562050086De-escalator is fine after the reload buff. People are sleeping on it now.>harvester troubleHMG emplacement obliterates everything on the mechasquid front.
>>562050790>turning it into the heal warrant is just going to make it brainless and arguably too good,Really doubtful. Healing in games are extremely niche and so is being support. We know this based on how many people take the Supply Pack, arguably one of the best support packs, and just run off on their own.
>>562050403your takes on frv handling are dogshit and you should keep them to yourself in the future
>>562050086they buffed the reload on it recently and it feels way better, it's faster but they also made it so you don't dump out the shells every time you have to stop, you only dump out used ones once. Makes it much better so it's fun now and just ok instead of outright bad
>>562050908That's just a really big stim.
>>562041129hey the trannies are pretty solid I like the part where on soft terrain it just spins and will work with the suspension so soft in the right area and hard in the wrong that it WILL get airtime at the slightest bump at acceleration speeds reminds me how much I love the aiming being locked out by a glitch while trying to reverse haha funny game *click-clack* *BANG*
>>562041321whoa whoa whoa pal what do you want here even just like eat our shit and tongue our assholes while massaging our balls with oil as we frot in doggystyle haha that's what the devs say cuz they're gay
>>562051193Delivered rectally I presume?
>>562050790The stim gun is just inherently bad in it's current form. There's no getting around that. It is fundamentally flawed in a similar way to the sterilizer or AP mines where how it functions does not.mesh with how the game plays.
>0 lobbyI'm going to fuck my cute trans gf and order a large pizza
larp larp sahur
>>562041493they broke the vfx on cars that are on countdown and seemingly take significantly less to kill for like 3 months now
>>562051436It should lock on.
>>562051052They removed the slow part where you gently peel out every spent shell casing? That's actually huge.
>>562041798OOOOHHHHHHOOOOOOHOIHOHYHOOGOYOYOO FFFFFOOOOOHHHOONIIII GAEM xD
>>562041873its gay as fuck when solo d1-3 grinding I'm glad RD-4 is back but they ruined the flow with the ruins trash you dont hate swiggers enough yard yada
>>562041873True
>>562051783I looked up a video and that was apparently never a thing. I don't know which weapon in thinking of.
>>562042389how about fixing the fucking voteless hitbox shenanigans during their lounge and sprint-slash and the pathing niggerdry when in high numbers and literally spawning behind you and walking into you without you drawing aggro and the "sound bug" where enemies are silent until they kill you
>>562052185the gas sidearm maybe?
>>562051436The idea is moot since they already went and made a gas dart sidearm, but I always felt that the stim gun would be more viable if it had some anti-enemy functionality. Stims friendlies, but gasses enemies. If that's too magic for the swedes then make it a clunky fire mode swap for no reason at all.
>>562041798the FRV isn't that ba-
>>562052417the FRV sucks but man it does have great comedic timing and looney tunes logic, I was playing a game earlier and a dead harvester fell on top of it and killed the gunner and the passenger but left me unscathed because I got out a split second before it exploded.
>>562048675they should be sued for false advertising/fraud everytime they make unneeded balances to high use rate gear and then pre nerf everything else down the road and jerk off Youtubers to tell them how to play the game which doesnt matter because it'll probably be worse before it's ever better
>>562050047GET REBB FORD ON THE HORN AND ASK HER WHERE HELLDIVERS MOBILE IS
>>562050403the magic wears off after about 3 mins or so after that you're fucked haha FUNNY GAME
>>562050524I'm hoping it'll be a stim SAM Site missile launcher so that it shoots at the worst times and has practically no intelligence, artificial or not, and wasting single shot without pause until its empty HA HA FUUUUNNNNNY GAAAAAAMMMME
>>562052740Imagine if Reb was in charge of this game and we got to see her exhibitionism on display during every single update video. Maybe a nip slip here and there. God, I fucking hate Arrowhead.
>>562052920>>562053047Meds. NOW.
"Yeah more like Smelldivers Poo because its a rotting hunk of ASSS"
>>562053047>>562052920meds.
I miss Eravinposting.
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>>562052190Don't worry anon, neither of us are going to get what we want regardless.
>>562053229Arrowhead did our fuckboy dirty.
>>562053083Have there been any more flapjack incidents?
I wish the maxigun was just a bit better against dragonroaches
>>562037989>>562038043sex with GILF frieren
>>562054656Me too.>100% durable part 1500 health>18 durable damage per shot, of course -1 for rounding down>bullet dragI hate durable, I hate it!
I've had enough of these fucking zombies
mindless masses is such a terrible subfaction
>participating in the izzat griftyikes
>>562037989lmao
We're winning the MO by 2 hours now.
>>562055394Yeah, because Joel literally rigged it. See also >>562006643
I have fleshmob fatigue
>>562055628>enemy impact goes from 2% to 1.25% to now 0.42%lolplayer driven war btw
>>562055841to add to this, do you think someone at the office told him to not fuck us over so blatantly because we haven't won anything in the last month due to his bullshit?
MR OVERSEER GET DOWN
full arc having no way to destroy spawners suck
>>562055942>haven't won anythingAnon, in the past month we have:>completely blunted a Cyborg offensive, buck-breaking two lava planets in the process through isolation>recaptured the Factory Hub and freed another bug planet at the same time through isolation, which wasn't even part of an MO>retaken at least two squid planets, up to three if we succeed with the current MO
Squid > Bot > BugIn terms of their OSTsI like how old timey scifi radio squids sound
>>562055942>boring old zombieslop-exclusive planet defense>defense fails at 99%>set planet with a 2.5% decay (with city tax it's 2.08%)>this after telling us to do a random bug side order>the side order didn't do anything tangible for us because it's just a teaser for the shitty flamethrower FRV>head into a weekend of bug personal orders>with most gamer dads being medal starved after a huge chain of losses post-Cyberstan>more people were OFF of the major order than ON it for the first time in literal years when the defense failed>>5620564897 major order wins and 6 major order losses since the new year, and we're on the heels of one of the gayest major order losses in history (kill cyborgs in new megafactories)we would have lost the last order too if they didn't remove the operation requirementthey're not only hostile gms, they're also retarded and don't know their players at all even after 2 years
>>562056434Arcs have AP7 so you just have to zap a fab or a warp ship a bunch of time until they die vro...
>>562031162Posted in the old thread accidentally, but why the sudden change for this?
>>562056860So, what's your definition for "win" here? Just because we didn't get the worthless medals from fulfilling all of the MO criteria, doesn't mean that we haven't come out ahead strategically.
>oh look, an objective/enemy spawn that takes about 30 seconds to clear>let me just use a well-placed eagle strafing run or cluster bomb to soften up the area before moving in to-->ORBITAL NAPALM BARRAGE INCOMING STAND CLEAR>now I have to wait 30 seconds for the barrage to finish and the flames to die down>it didn't even manage to destroy any spawners>it killed some enemies but attracted even more from afar including lookouts that have now triggered a bot drop/bug breach/squid fleet>a 30 second objective is now a five minute wave survival>mfw
>>562057279How can the playerbase ever get ahead strategically? Everything, EVERYTHING is done by the GMs. Planet resistance, invasion levels, health, modifiers. If a planet gets surrounded, some Swede bastard has to go to his computer and set its resistance to -0.5%
>>562057279if the medals are worthless then they shouldn't be so stingy with them bwoour "strategic win" against the borgs didn't do anything to curb them narratively according to the loss text, despite the fact that we ground 98% of them into dirthow far ahead the players get is entirely controlled by the devs, INCLUDING when they want us to win, e.g. when we failed to fuel the death star but they let us shoot it anyways
>>562057530why don't you destroy the spawners
can i get a Lobby Doko
>>562057530Get fucked, loser. Kneel to fire GODS
>>562056434That arc has not gotten a single crumb of content since force of law is criminal, especially since coming up with new arc equipment is piss easy, this shit writes itself.>orbital lightning strike>backpack fed arc projector (full auto)>taser fists>arc mines>a literal taser secondary
>>562057530Can't take the heat stay outta the kitchen
>>562051035What I mean by 'too good' is not necessarily in terms of game balance, like if a machine gun were to shoot hellbombs, but rather that the opportunity cost of taking the stim pistol and the skill floor of being able to hit your teammates with it will be shifted to the point where the support character/healslut demographic will start multiplying. That demographic is like a cancer, and giving them 'food' (i.e. positive reinforcement) in the form of a brainless healing tool that aims itself, allows them to reason to themselves that they're contributing, and therefore 'valid'. That type of thumb-up-your-ass 'support class' behavior then spirals out of control, and they grow like a cancer that you cannot get rid of, because the stim pistol genie is out of the bottle, and you can't put it back in without alienating them.Keeping the stim pistol as a dumb-fire weapon you actually have to aim inherently filters that type of person, because it's a skill floor they cannot easily reach, so they don't bother. If someone does decide to pick it up, they'll have a transferable skill of actually being able to aim, which carries over to guns that do damage, which will *actually* contribute to their teams.
>>562057940>Keeping the stim pistol as a dumb-fire weapon you actually have to aim inherently filters that type of person, because it's a skill floor they cannot easily reachhit the nail on the headgreat post
>>562051436It's not, all it needs is less sway. That's all it needed before they decided to buff the projectile speed and the healing potency (showing they fundamentally don't understand what the playerbase finds wrong with it), but it is what it is.>>562051757No, learn to aim.
>>562057859>Throwing knives but ARC'd>Ultimatum but ARC>ARC sentry turret>Grenade pistol but Stun Nades>Eagle Cluster ARC Bomblets
>>562057940>in the form of a brainless healing tool that aims itselfthe first game was top down and infinitely easier to aim in and the rep-80 was STILL an auto-targeting target-chaining healing AND repairing beam
>>562057940>>562058061Thats incredibly doubtful.https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/rates/?input=PC&map=all-maps®ion=Americas&role=All&rq=0&tier=AllEven in games where you have the "healslut" (aka Mercy) Ana is still picked more and you have to aim her shots. And this extends even to games like TF2 where the medigun auto-heals. And support/healer is still the least picked role because most people do not want to heal.
>>562058162Nvm, misread that overwatch pick rate. However my point of support being less popular in comparison to other roles still stand. Most people dont want to play healer because healers dont get the glory of doing what other roles do.
>>562053083>>562054636who and what are you gooners even talking about
>>562058148BRING HIM BACK BRING HIM BACKBRING HIM BACK
>>562058148>tfw we will probably never get the rep-80 because arrowheads autism about "muh realism" trumps interesting weapon ideas.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244666707779/76561199108851031d10 whatevs
>>562057940>t. schizophrenic
>>562058360full
How do I get AH to buff Railgun's durable damage
>>562057940Wow, an actually level-headed take on the stim pistol in /hdg/ of all places. Realistically if it were to be given an autoaim feature, it's ammo would need to be SEVERELY lessened to dart pistol levels to not make it too brainless. Personally I do like the dumbfire method with it's current ammo count, but like you said earlier the artificial sway given to a support dart gun is stupid. I will say that >>562058232 does kinda have a point in that support won't be as popular in HD2 purely because of the way the game is designed, but from my experience of playing as a supporter (supply pack, stim gun, shield nades, etc) you can really turn yourself into a strong team asset while still being able to wreck house on your own. My aim isn't that great so I end up wasting stim darts, but the amount you carry to begin with just lets me haphazardly turn teammates into pincushions (and healing SEAFs too) and effectively nullify stim taxes whenever I can.
>>562057279>worthless medalsdo you not understand that most of the playerbase is not lvl150 post-game with everything unlocked?
>>562058360AIYAH
there's something deeply satisfying about lighting an entire bug patrol on fire with the scythe
>>562057940stupid post, seriously retarded
>>562057535I'm hoping it moves towards being automated in the future. If they outline some rules of engagement for the galactic war it'll be much more interesting. Even if it's just something really basic like +0.5% decay per connected enemy planet with a base decay of -0.5%. The GM actually moving the enemy pieces around is "fine" because there is a storyline, as loose as it is, and moving towards a cohesive story is better than making up bullshit based on what the ai has pushed/lost. Once the story is over and it moves to a fully automated winnable war, they'll need to make a bunch of planets around the galaxy give strategic buffs to the players which make them worth holding.>hold planet that has maximum security city on it>+1 reinforcement for every deployment>four of said planets in the galaxy and the effects stack>factory planets that are dedicated to produce backpacks, guns, mechs etc etc>each one gives a small cooldown reduction to their respective call insThen you could expand on it to make those planets something that the enemy factions will try to take first>enemy factions holding those special planets also get a boost of some kind>actually tell us what the effects are on the galactic map>subfaction types can only spawn from special planets and each subfaction will only spawn from a certain type of special planet>eg: mindless masses spawn from maximum security cities>also have a home planet that can occasionally spawn deathballs that will try to push towards SE or a special planet, getting weaker as they leave garrisons on planets they've taken>home planet locked off to SE attack until it's completely surrounded>taking the home planet just makes it "contained" temporarily so you can still dive on it but it will eventually pull a Super Jurassic Park and retake the surrounding area>victory cosmetic cape if you dive on a home world and it gets contained>victory (or loss) armour once they're all contained or SE is lost
>>562058982Do you think they even know they died
>>562058820And do you not understand that just the completion of three Personal Orders gets you the same amount of medals as a Major Order, to say nothing of the mission rewards and pickups from POIs?The vast majority of Major Orders have zero real stakes. Yes, defending Super Earth from the Great Host and failing to liberate Cyberstan had stakes. But as of right now, whether or not we stop Cyborg invasions or liberate Cyborg planets only really affects whether or not we get to fight them again and whether or not we get more Megafactories. In the case of the current Major Order, liberating Hort stops the spread of the Void, which makes this a "victory" even if we don't successfully retake Rirga Bay within the next 7 hours (and even if we don't, we certainly will within the next 8 or 9 hours). We'll still get to fight the Appropriators later on as they keep trying to construct Exospires, we'll still get to fight Cyborgs as they keep trying to build Megafactories, we'll still get to fight on Hive Worlds so long as actually liberating them is not the objective.
>>562058148HD1 was an entirely different and much more simple game, with the primary demographic being console players who have a harder time aiming by default. The Rep-80 works for HD1 because it has such a wide use case, repairing both players and vehicles, and because the skill ceiling for aiming is so much lower - the entire game takes place on a 2D plane. You have to also understand that it came out so long ago with an entirely different playerbase, one that had a significantly lower concentration of undesirables and much more well adjusted individuals.It's comparing apples to oranges.
>>562057530What is this, bugs? Just fucking throw dynamite at the holes while the napalm barrage is clearing the field out. You don't even need to gold them in, as long as the AoE of the dynamite collides with the bughole it will destroy them. And the throw distance is respectably good.>But I only have 3 dynamites.Not my problem. I bring engineering kit on bugs for a reason. 5 dynamites will clear out the majority of shitter bug nests by itself, with or without some faggot throwing a napalm barrage into the mess.
>>562059137bugs are retarded animals surviving on instinct.they don't even think. they are just ants.sure, they are scared of fire or death, but they will never construct or make conclusions on what to do to make sure fire is not a problem anymore.
>>562056848Fr. Their ost is easily the bezt in the game. Shame it isnt on a cooler faction.
>>562058061Thank you both for the kind words.>>562058660Regarding the second half of your post, I would argue you are effective due in part to the fact that those supportive tools actually require some critical thought and strategic planning, while also being useful equipment for oneself (which you mention), aside from the stim pistol, which inherently makes you a useful player.
>>562047265>maxigun requires you to hog all the resuppliesit's really not that bad, just offload some light work to primary and secondaries.
>>562059173more medals is more medals man it's not that complicated. plus winning major orders is not something the average gamer has to be there for to benefit from, whereas you do for all the other options. time is limited, especially nowadays
>>562043718Ineffa negro?
>>562059135Unfortunately for everyone involved, Pilestedt has said they were aiming for 10 years of Helldivers 2. An automated GM system seems very far away.
>>562051193>>562051434It's a suppositoryHeals extra for leandivers for some reason
We'll get a Spaceballs inspired warbond before a star wars one
>>562057940The "skill" should come from situational awareness, good positioning, keeping lines of sight, knowing when and who to stim. Playing medic shouldn't have to be an aim-check. Especially in a game that lets you spam turrets and huge aoe air strikes. I've only played the game for 400 hours, but so far I have literally never been healed by a stim pistol. Not once. Zero times. On all fronts. Never seen anyone use it. If anything I think players should be encouraged to use it, and a little bit if projectile homing would go a long way. Even if it's just 15 degrees of wiggle room I think more players would care to bring it.
>>562060326>I've only played the game for 400 hours, but so far I have literally never been healed by a stim pistol. Not once. Zero times. On all fronts. Never seen anyone use it.every single hdg lobby has at least one guy running a stim pistolpubs are not a valid representation because most of these people are barely sentient
>>562060098So did halo infinite, look how that went for them
What if stim sentry/emplacement/orbital/mines/eagle tho...
>>562057530A lot of people are still learning the game or are simply bad. Just chill and do the mission.
>>562060394>pubs are not a valid representationActually it's the most valid representation because that's what most people play.
>>562060438Stim sentry would be funny, don't even have to amend the turret AI it still hits teammates 50% of the time lmao
>>562060417Come on, I get that AH are also blundering incompetents working with an engine they barely understand, but they don't HATE helldivers. They just hate us, the players, for making them work.
>>562060461you won't ever see a pub running anything but the ultimatum
>>562060326>The "skill" should come from situational awareness, good positioning, keeping lines of sight, knowing when and who to stim. Playing medic shouldn't have to be an aim-check.This is where we disagree. If you want to take up a player slot, you should know how to aim.>I've only played the game for 400 hours, but so far I have literally never been healed by a stim pistol. Not once. Zero times. On all fronts. Never seen anyone use it.This is largely due in part to the incomprehensible 1H weapon nerf that makes all of them sway all over the damn place. Nobody wants to sacrifice their ultimatum slot for a gimmicky support tool that they can't aim even if they wanted to.>If anything I think players should be encouraged to use itAgreed! However, I don't think handing them homing capabilities is the way to do it. Simply getting rid of the horrific sway would be more than enough, especially after the generous projectile speed buff the stim pistol recently received.
>>562059272>sure, they are scared of fire or death, but they will never construct or make conclusions on what to do to make sure fire is not a problem anymore.our space magic bugs will surely evolve magic imflammable exo-skeletons and flesh, they already have magically evolved tank armor strenght chitin plates after all
>D10 give 36 medals. D8 29. D6 gives 21. >Siege Breakers and Entrenched Divison have costed 853 medals and 888 medals respectively. > 23-24 full D10 operations or around 75 missions to complete. >Average warbond has increased around 150 medals because they decided the vehicle skins should be 50 medals each. >Another 50 medals will be added whenever they surpass the "limitations" of their engine and add bastion skins too. MO medal amounts are pitiful, especially when we fail half of them anyway. D10 should offer more medals as it is the "hardest" difficulty, or make the MOs worth actually doing by offering a significant amount of medals or even an amount of SC dependent on personal contribution. but im just a stupid faggot
This is how (You) look like when you bring the wheelchair Yes, that's YOU! YOU!You little baby diver googoogaga
>>562060563I think they do hate helldivers on some level, because their "CoD playerbase" that they didn't plan for made them depart from their weird contradictory "grunt fantasy" vision for the game
>>562060764I will now bring the ATe
>>562060764giwtwm
How are you getting out of this>minesdiver on the rightFucked it all up
>>562060663unless you're playing exclusively light pen vs bots, you don't need good aim to play this game. Like at all. I wonder if your opinion comes from you being good at aiming, and you feel rewarded for having good aim. And then maybe you feel robbed if other people start getting free aim within a cone?
>>562060887>HELLBOMB ARMED, CLEAR THE AREA!
>>562060887>factory striders everywhere>scout striders>only 1 vox>not a single cyborg in sightFalse advertising.
>>562060887>I HAVE A BOOOOOOOMB>EVERYONE GT FUK OOOOOOUT! I HAVE A BOMB AND ITS STRAPPED TO ME RIGHT NOW!
>>562060786I actually think their "love" for their game is what lead to them enforcing that grunt fantasy vision in the early days.And you can dislike the playerbase but still like your own game/universe/friendly fire simulator. I mean, seriously, they love friendly fire and telling us that we're the bad guys.Although you may be correct since they sent their A-team off to the next game while we're stuck with the new hires, who definitely don't have the same attachment to the game.
>>562060887Jetpack HMG guy putting in most overall workHes carrying them
>>562060940Imagine the killcount in that pic alone
>>562060887Orbital smoke strike
>>562060901Anon, you're making my point for me. No, you don't need to have precision aim for most things, you just need to put the enemy under your crosshair and land your shots somewhere on their body. That's all you need to do with the stim pistol as well, that's the transferable skill, that's the *bare minimum* that I'm talking about.
>>562057940retarded but true take
>>562061179That right there is a Stalwart, it's a light pen MG from the hit game Helldivers 2 released early 2024
>>562061179>hmgholy blind
>>562061317>>562061328I'm sorry
>>562060737you say that but even with those increased medal rewards you'd be better off farming in d1
>>562061295alrightbut it won't be used outside of /hdg/ lobbies, that's for sure
>>562061264this is the only good answer
>>562060663Nta, but I just kind of hate that the Warrant is able to have lock on capabilities but the stim pistol isn't. It just breaks immersion in my eyes, and it comes off like AH just hates teamwork and cooperation and would rather see funny friendly fire.
>>562060786Silly swedes.If they didn't want this audience they shouldn't have let the player shoot dive (and with perfect accuracy) like they're in a 90s action movie. I know I wouldn't have bought the game.
>>562061617Considering the Warrant is a direct reference to Judge Dredd's gun, which notoriously has auto-aim among its features, I don't really mind the discrepancy.
>>562061617why would stim pistol have auto-aim?it's literally just a pneumatic syringe pistola toy gun
>>562050403>drops/breaches are constantly happening behind you and you've just gotta keep fending shit off at speed til you get where you're going.Some kind of fallback/fighting retreat mission could be fun.
>>562060394One time I cleared out a bot outpost and saw a pub move in. "Excellent. We can use our grenades to destroy the fabs. My gems are on cd anyway."I go and blow one up. I turn around and see the pub running away from a clusterbomb he threw at the next fab closest to me. After calling him a sub-80 IQ savage retard favela nigger who should not be given any political agency I booted his ass.
It's one of the least used side arms in the game. HD2 already does a very poor job incentivizing team work. If anything it promotes splitting up and running solo, because that's the fastest way to complete a mission. If people are to pick it, they need some sort of incentive.
>>562060786The modern warfare remake un ironically has better attention to detail and authenticity than helldivers. If they wanted to make an old ghost recon/arma style tacticool game they really fucked up >oh it dude the dust covers on the comically shit rifle designs lmao
>>562062202I like hearing the >"THANK YOU"when I hit shots.
>>562062202I wonder why a bunch of 1h sidearms also have low pickrates...
>>562062202They should work on buffing then conventional side arms first before some off ball heal slut pistol. They all suck ass compared to pocket GL/nuke/flamer. Warrant is the only decent one because of the lock on. I’d like if they massively buffed their damage but up the drag even more too, so close range they rip enemies apart but past 30 meters they feel much like they do now, and then give SMGs the same treatment or just double the ammo count for them.
>>562062202How do we fix the bushwacker? >Long barrel version never ever
>>562062651give it a speedloader like the big iron
>>562062651550 damage, med pen, even more stagger, bit less ammo. It should blow any medium enemy away that gets close.
>>562061829Same reason a regular pistol would have auto-aim? Hitting difficult targets?
>>562062651med penalso>pummeler with 0% pick ratethe Dalit of primaries
>>562062906That's because AH broke it, so it couldn't be used at all for a couple weeks
>>562062906You couldn't pick it this update until like last week thanks to it being disabled
>>562062769With 24 darts you can spam it, which helps hitting evasive helldivers. But why bring a heal pistol that needs to be spammed, in a game where most players die in 0.3 seconds, when you could rather bring a pocket tactical nuke?
>>5620583603/4 now, join
Speaking of shitty SMGs, what’s the point of the defender now? The new one has better damage, similar rof, and you get a crisper built in. Still not an amazing weapon but the flamer does add utility.
>>562063082whopping two more mags
>>562062397>they think you're trying to kill them instead
>>562063082Defender has more spare ammo for the primary I guess
LibCar is underrated
>>562063210it isn'tanyone with at least half a brain realized how good it was even before the customization dropped
>>562062202Part of the problem is that there's no easy way to signal to teammates that you have a Stim Pistol and are willing to top them up, or for you to signal to a teammate with a Stim Pistol that you want them to top you up, if you're playing with randoms. So most of the time you end up just follow them and pray that they have to stationary reload or operate a terminal long enough for you to shoot them.Easiest way to fix this is to give us a voice wheel command for wanting stims (just use the "I need stims" voice line), and one indicating that you have medical supplies that you are willing to share.Also, while I do appreciate the buff to stim potency in the last patch, there should still be a benefit to Stim Pistoling someone while wearing a +2 second stim duration armor. A single shot will heal to full health no matter what no, but the extra duration doesn't really do much anymore unless someone on your team is doing the DE Sickle meme.
>>562063210Smallwart
>>562063180>Equip drum mag on both>Defender has 5 spare mags>Stoker has 4
>>562058360nvm imma play minecraft, ggz frens
>>562063082Better ergo, and an underbarrel attachment option.
>>562063270>Easiest way to fix this is to give us a voice wheel command for wanting stimsAnother fix would be to make the darts homing projectiles but we already discussed that. Some people like it, some people don't.
>>562063280Stoker also has another gun on it
>>562063210It's correctly rated. I was having fun with it vs squids for a while and it's definitely in the top echelon of ARs but eventually I realised it was performing worse than the Eruptor and switched back.
I want a machine shotgun support weapon
>>562063528lol
>>562063270>there should still be a benefit to Stim Pistoling someone while wearing a +2 second stim duration armorThe duration is still there.You can easily pre-stim someone you can see is about to take damage and watch his health go up and down repeatedly for the next 6 seconds. Whereas without medic armor, you'd have to re-apply it.
>>562063568Everything performs worse than the Eruptor
>>562057530Throwing a napalm barrage on a target that I know doesn't require it and I know only slows down the autist lining up his eagle gems for a sub 10 minute clear time is half the fun of this game.
>>562063528With how laggy throwing a grenade is at times I can't fault that guy. If anything I'm more pissed off at people who strip clam shields way before anyone has a clear shot into them.
>>562063605Holy shit, why do we not have this
>>562063804100h diver post
>>562063804Running non-napalm impacts is fault enough.
I want a gun that uses samples from the map as ammoEach one does something crazyy!!
>>562063528you can see him putting his gun away to throw the grenade before the shields came back on
>>562063210Been seeing others in /hdg/ lobbies use it a lot. I've also been using it.
>>562063907>might kill voteless if they don't decide to run over the fire unharmed>polar patriots btwvs>just kills them if they were caught in the blastThis man is innocent.
>>562064079>load the high value sample from the D10 Mega Fort>Hellbomb Launcher
>>562063907Impacts are still THE meta grenade in my head
>>562062651it's fine, its niche is just predditor strain
I enjoy the funny yellow number that turns red
>>562065519what compelled someone to draw this
>>562062651It's perfect.
>>562065519what does this picture even mean
>>562065582a passion for graphic design
>>562065519
>>562066037average cluster thoughts
>>562065582Lust.
>>562065337It really is great against them.
>>562065592bro turned poor bot into a tranny :(
> -25RS
>>562062651The fix is to set it to volley mode by default, because most normies and gamerdads don't even fucking know the thing can be programmed to shoot more than one shell at a time. The bushwacker has a sole purpose, and that is to 3x facefuck a stalker to death.
>>562065519>>562066459Is this the sequel to Tails Gets Trolled?
>>562065519>>562066459>hella jeff adventures 2.0
shit have you guys see the expendable machine gun leak looks cool
>>562066497
>>562066842old news, along with everything else
>>562066842It was one of the best weapons in the first game, just like C4. So it’ll probably be just okay
ffrv status?
>>562066995exploded after driving on top of a 1 inch rock
>>562066842It's textured now?
>>562066890No, not that one.
>>562066331>>562065592Sḣitskin moment
>>562066890Wrong tails comic meme you spud
>>562067145Gucci Niggers moment
>>562067125>>562067148how do you guys know?!?
>>562066842Looks like moby dick lawl
>>562066967But C4 is one of the best weapons in the game.
>>562066842that variable body does not bode wellits going to have 30 ergo isn't it
>Joel dumped squid reinforcement from 2 all the way to 0.4 to let us take Rirga Bay in timeHilarious
>>562067463C4, a suppressed weapon, stealth armour, and some know how really lets you pull off just about anything. I do understand why some people don’t think it’s that good compared to the recoilless though, you actually need to rub a couple of brain cells together.
>>562067784Entire system needs an overhaul, a solid 30-40% of player only want to fight bugs.
>>562067884they don't fight bugs they sc farm
>>562048773We only outright deny people that are struggling with answering 2 simple questions (picrel). You weren't one of them, right?>>562057243TLDR retards ruin everything for everyone
>>562067884just give more medals per mission when doing MOsliterally a number change in the code and an extra if statement in the codewe will have atleast 1 reason to do MOs especially for us minmaxing retards
>>562067884What's that, you say? The solution is to increase the difficulty of bugs until bug fuckers are filtered out of the game?
>>562067978>TLDR retards ruin everything for everyoneWhat happened
>>562067978>TLDR retards ruin everything for everyonemaybe if you didn't spam that shit every thread and told random people to visit /hdg/ for free sc it wouldn't end up this way
>>562067978>discord honeypot>.dll malware>obvious sc cheating banwave honeypot on top of itI gotta commend you niggers at AH you are getting bolder
>>562067978I'm guessing someone tried to sneak in and ruin everything? I sure wonder who could've possibly been behind that.
>ḇrown ṯranny is still advertising xer google translated hand me down chink hacksCan you fuck off to you cord already
>>562067978I think I'll just not bother with it anymore since it requires pisscord for future versions.
>>562067829Hulk surge is one of those things that truly shows you why C4 is good.It's like an RR but with enough AoE to kill 4 hulks at once.
>already set for life with enough SC to last foreverbrowncels seething, shame they ruin everything they come in contact with.
>>562068082We have never directed anyone to /hdg/. The anons from that thread have so far been some of the best people who have joined and who actually try to use the menu to its full potential, not just for farming SC.>>562068074Shitskins that get stuff for free and then get mad we don't add every single minor thing they ask for.>562068146>562068384Yes-yes spend your shekels on super shekels, good goys
>>562067758>its going to have 30 ergo isn't it>he doesn't realize the MMG has 15:)
>no suppressed hush puppy pistol that stuns for 5 seconds on hit How do you not include it when you make a stealth warbond? I guess the same way you don’t make a splinter cell style helmet for said warbond. Soulless Swedish fucks
>>562068804And setting laying down with the bipod doesn’t improve anything. Even the most normie core cod and battlefield games have had working bipods
>>562067884I have done 3-4 sorties for squids outside hdg lobbies, it just gets boring doing the same thing after a while and at least bugs seem to flank or sneak up on me. Bots and squids just seem toif(player)=1thenwalkto(player)Or the more omniscient enemies just spray bullets in my direction because I did a silly and used one (1) resupply stratagem whilst there was a grunt within 3km>Just use stealth armour bro xddddALL patrols spawn with your exact geolocation, full name, and social security number. And if you pick off one of them? Heh, you activated their trap card, patrols share AI and now all of china knows you're hereSpaghetti
>>562068946Looks like squids are moving in a better direction at least. The zombie swarm stuff is a neat idea just needs way more of them to spawn (and less harvesters), the mech and drone focused dudes are neat just needs more units, and the leaked void zealots also look cool. The zombie shit is such a huge let down though, you’ll get maybe one good sized swarm in a full 40 minute mission. Seems like harvesters are eating up all the spawns for some reason
>>562068693You break the cardinal rule of keeping it anonymous so you only have yourself to blame for the consequences. Surely it's well known the retards will eventually find (you)r alias or general contact and start flaming, users of the table or not. Going in the OPPOSITE direction and requiring authentication for the table's use is quite possibly the worst thing you can do, it'll only make the problem worse, I promise yout. oldfag uc'er
>>562069156No I agree, squids are for sure moving in a better direction I just meant in general the repetitiveness gets to some people. Obviously made up stats but I'm sure of those 30-40% bugdivers a good 75% of them actually dabbled in the MO somewhat just to see what was cookin
>>562069397The lack of different side objectives is one of the most boring things about squids. But the system does need a change up, if people want to just log in and blow some bugs up more power to them, but it’s bullshit that it actively sabotages the MO and it’s completely on the devs.
why should I use the Giga grenade when Thermite exists?
because is funif it's not for you go play some minmax slop like darktide or smth
Why should I use anything when overtuned option exist???
>>562069905D10 is overtuned slop with no regards to balance, why shouldn' you use overtuned tools to win in it?
>he cannot do D10 without cheatsngmi
>>562069842If you carried three of them they would be a really good side grade
>>562069964Use them and stop crying about non overtuned gear then
>>562070018if you use stims while playing D10 then you didn't beat the game as well btw
>>562069842immediate effect and can still function as an "kill that clustered pile of assholes in the way" grenade unlike the thermite
lobby...doko
>>562069964>why shouldn' you use overtuned tools to win in it?because you don't need to use them to beat D10? if you personally need to then sorry that just means you're actually just shit at the game
90% of complaints here are instantly solved if the complainer would just lower the difficulty.
>>562068932going prone reduces recoil dramatically
I only use guns that specifically feel good to me only.
>>562070235
fire mode toggle on the AC was a mistakehow does flicking a switch change the projectiles already loaded into the gun? it makes no sense, it's unrealistic.they should have added a new special airburst weapon instead.
>>562070271Same reduction as a weapon without a bipod
>>562069842Thermite is a single target grenade, Giga grenade is "remove that group" grenade without the gay 5 secs fuse time of the Dynamite
>>562070235This is why I stay in my lane on D7
>>562070235this but the well has been poisoned so bad by gucci it won't even be viewed as a legitimate response
>>562070381Retard, learn about proximity fuse
>>562070305the fire rate feels a bit too slow, it's awkward. it should be an arc machine gun? but it fires so slowly.>>562070396but it helps with the machinegun in particular because it has such high recoil, so what's the problem? you go prone, the bipod is out, and the recoil is reduced. do you really need a special mechanic for it when it looks exactly the same?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244681500001/76561198088743
it's quite simple: if someone complains that X or Y shows up too much on D10 and they'd rather have it show up at the rate they appear on D5 or D6 or whatever, that just means they are a fragile pussy that want low difficulty gameplay while not having to admit to it.take vox engines for example; the biggest complain is that too many of them show up and it would be sooo much better if they were rarer, but the whole time they could have just lowered the difficulty to the experience they wanted
>>562070381programmable ammunition isn't even sci-fi bro it is real and possible in 2026just incredibly expensive in real life, which is why nobody bothers with it and why it isn't common knowledge.
>>562070474how does AP rounds change into flak rounds?
>>562070381Really funny how they gave this and multiple buffs to the "most balanced and fun" support weapon in the game (at the time)
>>562070619by changing the fuse sensitivity?
>>5620704903/4
>>562070528
>>562070489>the fire rate feels a bit too slow, it's awkward.I find it clicks for me in a very specific way, the slow speed feels really nice while I'm walking at an enemy slowly while stun locking them to death. Very cathartic. Though it's easy for me to fall into a sort of zone where I start spraying too many things and then blast a teammate for existing within my radius because I'm shooting everything that moves.
>>562070619the AC fires APHE shells. That means it is made up of a thick metal penetrator with a hollowed out interior compartment filled with high explosive called a bursting charge.the round has two fuzes: a base fuze and a proximity fuze. when set to flak mode the proximity fuze is active which detonates the bursting charge early to create the airburst fragmentation effect. when set to APHE mode the base fuse is used instead which only detonates once inside the target or the shell impacts a solid surface.simple.
>>562060326i actually just played as a medica button to heal people within melee range would be nice to supplement ranged healing
>>562071131>a button to heal people within melee range would be nice to supplement ranged healingAH is a small indipendant indie studio with a very small teampls understand you ungrateful greedy pig!
>>562071131you just press E if they're below 50% hp
>>562070490fvll
>>562071307>150 people>small studio
>>562071131>a button to heal people within melee range would be niceyeah you walk up to them and hit E on them and you;ll use one of your stims on them
>>562070489It would be nice, just odd that call of duty has more attention to detail than a game the devs actively sabotage in the name of said attention to detail.
>>562071454>>562071335with the stim pistol, not my stims
>>562071339It's a meme you dip
I’m enjoying the Cremator on bugs so much I don’t think I’m going to use anything else ever again. At least until we get a heavy arc thrower or a proper gas sprayer
>>562072194Heavy arc thrower with giant battery for a backpack to make it make sense.
>>562068840The gas pistol effectively does that exact thing you're describing.
>>562070489it's a shotgun, not a machine gun
Why would you ever use the BFGL when the AC exists?
>>562071894have you tried m1
>>562070561Programmable ammo exists, but it's for fucking over planes with air bursts. You can't program HE to become AP
>>562073219What do you think he meant dude, read into it a little and use your imagination. It would be nice to have a tiny bit of functionality added to the stim pistol to make it easier to actually fucking heal people instead of wasting your time and shots trying to hit teammates that are moving, diving, getting blown around by ragdoll effects, or have 800 ping and are desynced. This shit is why people want auto aim for it, because the darts are slow, the targets move a lot, and it's a p2p game.
>>562073147I think bfgl is a bit better for killing masses of fleshmobs and replenishing ammo from poi boxes
>>562073147You can actually kill chargers with the BFGL
>>562072654UH OH MELTY
>>562072756It’s an ugly arrowhead original design
Give me a low effort loadout that mulches mindless masses and I will liberate rigga bay.
>>562073147it's completely braindead and has 0 downtime for reloadingfor example if you see a hulk just hold m1 on either leg and it dies, no need to coinslot. Obviously you can do this with the AC as well but you have fewer shots and it takes longer so it's not very efficient.Not the best support weapon but it werks
>>562074242You can use pretty much anything. Really shows how shit SMGs are though, runs out of ammo after a decent fight. Such a shame because the halo SMG sounds great
>>562074242arc dog + arc thrower, gatling barrage, orbital gas
>>562074242mg+gatling sentries NEAT (call down when ships are inbound, shoot the bottom of the ships when they stop and send down troops)MG
>>562074521fvll
HOEH
>>562075019surely these lobbies are afk farming
>>562075019Saw the same thing last weekWorst or strongest divers of all time
>>562075019>>562075113>>562075167Are you guys newfags?This has been a bug since launch.
Every time I equip the AMR I get angry over how stupid sw*des aregive it a fucking third person reticle alreadyit is too sexy not to be used
>more people playing the game>can feel the liberation progress stall to a screeching haltSWEEEEEDEN
>>562075495You now remember that the HMG didn't have one either on launch as well as having a 75 round mag and 1200 rpm fire rate (so you can empty it in 2 seconds while missing every shot and then spending 6 seconds reloading)
Image if bugfuckers could stop raping bugs for a few missions and play the MO for once. We could've retaken Rigger Bay already
>>562075761yes I did actually think back on that before making the postand then I realized that AMR is the only weapon in the game not to have a reticle, right?
Why doesn't circuit expansion affect arc dog and descalator when enhanced combustion affects hot dog and cremator?
>>562075495heard you loud and clear - increasing damage dropoff over distance for the long distance sniper rifle called AMR as soon as possible!
>>562076037well it's utterly useless so they might as well nerf it into the ground, cause a massive backlash and then be forced to buff it over what it currently is
>>562075961Yep. Alexus probably throws a tantrum every time someone suggests adding it, we're lucky it got its damage buffed instead of being relegated to the trash heap of forgotten and abandoned guns
>>562075495one of the most powerful (could consider it overpowered against hulks, even) support weapons in the game and you need more buffs? bro
>>562060821>kill 5 fleshmobs>10 more take their place
>>562076102It's far from useless anon, it's surprisingly good on bugs, has never been bad on bots, and does alright on nusquids too if you can land headshots on overseers
Waiting for just enough players to go back to bug planets early so that we lose the MO at 99%
>>562076282>does alright on nusquids too if you can land headshots on overseersliterally every weapon can do "alright" on that, AMR should be a lot more better than that.
>>562076372I agree, I'm just saying it's not utterly useless.
>>562076282anon it's a support weapon that performs like a primary while stealing your slot so you can't deal with heavier shit
>>562075818Imagine caring about the MO and thinking it isn't on rails to begin with.
when did they fix the peacemaker laser/light combo not being flush with the gun?
>>562076493>AP4>can't deal with heaviesBait or RR crutcher?
>>562076493>one taps alpha commanders>kills chargers in under a mag to the butt>kills bile titans in two mags to the head>one shots hulk eyes under 30m (remove drag from this weapon pls)>kills tanks, gunships, devastators with ease>kills squid mechs in under a mag>one shots overseer headsThere is no primary that can do all this with the speed and ammo economy of the amr. Try using it instead of bitching about it
>>562076493chargers? just magdump on the head or assimpalers? just magdump on the forehead or hipfire spam towards the mouth when it plays the harmless melee animationbile titans? just magdump all bullets on its facefactory striders? just shoot the miniguns off and then magdump on one of the doors underneath the factory striderharvesters? shoot the shields off and then shoot the leg joints
>>562076750>>kills bile titans in two mags to the headReally? Is there an armor you would recommend to use the AMR like recoil reduction or just git gud at recoil control?
OOOOOOOOOOH MY FINGERNAILS HAVE BEEN ERADICATED BY MINE OWN TEETH
>>562076682learn to readI specifically said "heavier shit" referring to things that primaries can't do
It's over.
>>562077076>>562077095squidGODS won.bugfuckers on r/SuicideWatch
>>562077028Yes really. I usually use engineering kit armor with it and dynamites but peak physique is good too if you'd prefer the ergo boost over less recoil
Wait, the urchin only has a one meter smaller aoe than the speargun gas cloud? That actually seems pretty good for bugs no? Throw a couple on a breach and they get locked down for 14 seconds
>>562075495>>562075761>>562075961the game was better back then
>>562077371nostalgia is a hell of a drug
>>562077371It really wasn't. People just weren't wise to swedish trickery.
>>562077371t. railcannon/shieldpack/breaker
>>562077093Nigger, what does heavier shit even mean?Like hive lords and leviathans?The enemies that even RR does dick against?
>>562073646sounds like a mountain of cope. if you can't land stims point blank after the buff you're a lobotomite
Breach Hammer if I just want a quick Charger deleter?AT grenades are fun but I meet a lot of Chargers
>>562077652chargers, bile titans etcand don't go "b-but you can shoot him in the butt" yeah so can a fucking smgeven the fucking epoch can take down bile titans while you sit there magdumping magazine after magazine in first person at a snail's pace
>>562077665why are you niggas so opposed to making the game less ass to play
>>562077908Better off with the cremator.
>>562077358yes, but why stun when you can kill? incendiaries or pyrotechs can do the same
so causes the eternal swede to be such a spiteful bastards
>>562078037why are you shitters so opposed to being less ass at the game?
>>562078037>less asswhy doesn't the anon who can't hit teammates "within melee range" just get better at the weapon of their choice? the game, in this instance, is not ass. also, if you can't hit a teammate running around that close with a sidearm, how the fuck are you going to kill enemies?
>>562078023Please get your wrangler, you're to retarded to be on the internet unsupervised.
>>562078249I think this is where the cool kids say"I accept your concession"
sex with robot squid bug girls
>>562078023>AMR on bugs>first personNegative!
>>562078362well his argument was shooting exactly two full magazines into the mouth of a bile titan so yeah good luck doing that in third person with no reticle
>>562078023an smg cannot kill a charger as fast as magdumping the amr
>>562078080Because my flame dog, speargun, call ins kill everything easily enough. CC is nice to have solo against bugs
>>562078472gas grenades? arc grenades?
>>562078115>want to make grunt fantasy game for a small audience of autistic masochists like yourself>fuck up the balancing so hard that you accidentaly get a giant hordeshooter audience>keep balancing like it's the grunt fantasy, but the community you got hates that approach>game starts bleeding players and your "nerf everything that's good or popular" has a big part in it>Sony kicks down your door and tells you to give the players what they want because HD2 is their only sucessful live-service game>begrudingly do the 60 day patch>forced to keep balancing like that>start resenting your players for forcing you to change your balancing approachborn to make games for masochists, forced to make a game with mass-appeal, basically.Or the old>I found gold! That sucks, I wanted copper!!
>>562078452you've never actually used the AMR, have you?
>>562078467Don't bother convincing him, he is for baiting (you)s.
>>562078452Don't need it!Follow me!
>>562078074>2 hits vs chargerDamnCremator it is
Well, divers? I feel like I should have plenty of stuff to put here but somehow I'm drawing blanks.
anyone who says a weapon is shit or useless should be forced to post a video of their gameplay with it so there will be no ambiguity over if its legit criticism or just a skill issue
>>5620786542 hits?With the hammer?Did you not put the explosive on it?
>>562078784We should all unite to complain about fog
>>562078841Winning an argument is not worth going through an entire mission with the concussive liberator.
>>562078784"Cheaters"
>>562078898Idk i watched a videor He was a dummy and hit the fronts I changed opinions now
>>562078654It would be cool. Unfortunately the explosion damage isn't high enough to one shot through the 25% and 100% explosive damage reduction parts.
>>562079043I haven't met a cheater in over a year. Granted I autokick anybody with a chinese name so that may contribute to my experience.
>>562078784>Galactic war is garbage and there is either no player agency, or its completely shallow and lacking any consequence>No in game bestiary for enemies>No armor palette swaps>Missions are boring and repetitive, especially bricks/blitz>No sample/credit sink (DSS is shit and doesn't count)>Subfactions mostly suck and need more enemy variations
>>562078784I don't enjoy that enemies make zero sound unless they are on screen. I don't enjoy that the haha funny ragdoll game has such poor collision detection that one wrong tumble clips me into terrain and I either have to wait for an incidental explosion to ragdoll me out of it or I just have to kill myself. I don't enjoy that there is still no way to save loadouts even though the company you contracted to do weapon customization still managed to do it unnecessarily.
>>562079127I don't play pubs so i couldn't say how it is.I just find that cheaters in hdg lobbies annoy me.Stuff from obnoxiously large name fonts and colours to flying around and shooting full auto EATs.
>>562078784gaem 2 ez
>>562079394>flying around and shooting full auto EATswhat the fuck? I've seen strange names but never that.
>>562078654>>562079046What you saw was probably outdated. They gave the hammer 100 more damage last patch specifically so it can cave in charger behemoth skulls in one hit.
>>562079065RIP just want a instant Charger killer because I hate playing their games and mag dumping Id rather save orbs and ATs for tanks Back to throwing and forgetting thermites Giga kills them instantly but >1 giga per pack
>>562079498It's quite rare, but i have seen it happen in my games.And i did see a webm of someone flying in a lobby the other day.
he tried
>>562079942
>>562078937>Hmm today I will attempt to level the Lib Concussive to 25>*Does 1 mission*>Hmm perhaps some other time
>>562078784gucci slippershe keeps joining my games on alts and says a bunch of chudlike slurs
get out of here snowbunny this ain't the place for you
>>562080138uh oh stinky
>>562080138pimple bum
>>562080138
>>562080180>next patch: removed gucci slippers
>>562078841You would just move goalposts and complain about people more skilled than you are like you have every time someone actually bothers to post footage for you. I certainly won't humor you. Now reply and tell me I have a skill issue. Don't care! I already know I'm better than you and don't need to prove it. In fact, why don't you post footage? I could use a laugh.
WE'VE GOT A LOBBY!steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244696301860/76561198120804312BOTS OR BUGS!
>>562078784the lack of a loadout system for armor and stratagems
>>562079708I got no choice but to find out for myselfTime to bug
>>5620805072/4
>Joel has to significantly lower rirga's resist to let the squidsissies winTurns out if you bitch and moan enough the swedes will relent. Hope you like your "earned" win.
>try C4 pack for the first time against squiggers>pick the Stalwart too>learn that C4 detonator takes the supply weapon spotfuck off
>>562079065>>562080513
>>562080507Still 2/4...
>>562081380kek
>>562081294You need more support weapons than the c4???
>>562081474No but it would have been fun.
>>562081380it annoys me to no end that you can't just keep the swing by holding down LMB.
>>562080138can someone sloppa this to make her face the wall with no other changes?
why is there so many incels in here? I fuck chicks that look like that on the weekly
>>562080507LOBBY CLOSED!DEAD GAMEDEAD THREADDEAD FUCKING GENERAL
>>562081670>why are there so many incels in a videogame general on 4chan?>bro I totally get pussy bro please bro you have to believe that I dokys
>>562081702my shift only just ended. damn bruh.
>>562081702SORRY I WAS MASTURBATING TO >>562080138
>>562081380wao..
>>562081702no squids no join
>>562081939>sour grape incellol, I just fuck hookers bro
Let it be known that though the bugniggers may try, they cannot hold the squidchuds down.
uh oh we weren't supposed to win thathere comes the insurmountable armada out of the void to ensure the continued spread of the gloo- i mean void
>>562082220>lowered resistance 3 times
>>562080138should we know her?
>>562082548https://www.instagram.com/snowwhitebeiia/
>>562082709okay... what i'm saying, is she just an onlyfans whore or is she helldivers related?https://fapello.com/snowwhitebella-1/
>>562082709she's ugly as fuck wtf mang
I don't want to see porn hereI'll jack off to something later but there's a time and placeI'll meet you on /trash/
>>562082709not a looker
>>562082847>>562082985finnish phenotype
>>562082847Albinos freak me the fuck out.
>Mech design is going full retardIt's over
>>562083131fake as fuck lmao
>>562083131you talk like the mechs are not dogshit since day 1. We need to go back to HD 1 Mech
>>562083131>riot shield>not a bubble shield gen
>>562083131who cares that thing will die to 3 accidental shots from a sentry anyway
>>562083131>shieldFor what purpose?
>>562083227>we will never have the HD1 bastion instead of the huge blocky papier mache piece of shit we got
>>562083131who cares about the design, genuinely?i'd understand if these things were ever genuinely usable, but AH has made it blatantly clear we will never, EVER, get useful vehicles>release bastion>increase enemy Durable damageholy
>>562083131can't wait for it do die before hiting the ground
Also what the fuck is the point of this thing. >3 supply boxes>4p game
>>562083227Have you not use mechs on anyfront besides bots?Mechs are literally to OP (like the tank) to the point where i often don't bring them because it would make the game to easy.
Can anyone give me tips on how to deal with bugs? I always feel like I get overrun on all sides.
>>562082709>>562082847She’s just an albino cave woman
>>562058238Probably the Warframe lady.
>>562083131
>>562083131that gun better shoot leveler/ultimatums
>>562083389contain bug breaches aka slow down, hold position and shoot in the general direction of the bug breach to neutralize it.just one unattended bug breach is enough to spiral you into an endless death loop on D10or you playing below D10? no bully just asking.
>>562083131Heavy devastator at home
>>562083389Gun or Hot DogMG sentry2 eagles or 2 orbitalsDo you have the ship upgrades?GL and Grenade pistol are good for clearing bug holesAlso Emancipator is fun stomping on em
>>562083329>directly nerf every other vehicle just to make the bastion less powerful>instead of just giving the bastion less health to begin withgenuinely what the fuck is their problem?
>>562083131That shield won't be as strong as a Devastator's btw
>>562053083>tfw no Baskinator goon-i-form
>>562083389Acquire the Cremator. It is—without exaggeration—THE easy button for bugs. It incinerates entire breaches as they emerge, melts chargers and brings down bile titans easily. If you pair it with a fire resistant armor, you can scorch a path through any swarm and break out of encirclements easily.
>>562083489>hey sven, wouldn't it be cool if there was a mech that could provide mobile cover for infantry like real armored vehicles?>ja, good idea! >fast forward to release>people who try to use it as cover get killed when the mech steps on them>the shield can be damaged and broken>mechs still explode after getting shot with a few rockets>Good job sven! Time to go on vacation!
>>562083131>>562083489How are they going to justify the shield being weaker than a devastator's?
>>562083732>lower cost and budget constraints on super earth
>>562083510I either do D6/7 for comfy time or get overrun on D10. On breaches I just throw orbital gas strike while shooting at bigger targets. >>562083562>Do you have the ship upgrades?Yes except last 2 eagle and last 3 sentry. >EmancipatorI will try, alongside dogs.
>>562083389You can counter their zerg tactics by using weaponry that is efficient at killing crowds, slows enemies down, and is effective at close ranges. Flamethrowers check all of those boxes while also being capable of killing heavies.
>>562083258not bubble but it definitely should have been a directional energy shield. It just makes infinitely more sense than this 10 ton steel abomination.
>>562083856i want the most left one
>We hold off the squid gloom>Terminid/Bot major incursion next>squid silently switch off the light of all the planet in the meanwhileI'm not feeling excited about this MO victory at all
>>5620838562nd from the right is mine
>>562083834If youre in a mech dont bother shooting little bugsWalking over them does a ton of damageYou can blast bile titans from afar with themId goDogEmanWith bugs I prefer eagles Spam em and hide in the mech while youre eagles coolDogs can fit in a mech with youBut hey have fun
>>562083624can't believe how fucking lucky warframe is to have a community manager like this.
>>562083856i claim the ka chow cape
>finally give squids some new units>fuck off to make a 4th faction
>>562083341gonna be fun>>562083329it's just the walkers that are bad tho. the FRV is great and the Bastion is at least good.
>>562083131>just a regular ol' shield>not making use of energyShould've gone full reinhardt and allowed us to shield a smol friends.
>>562083387see >>562084251
>>562083856left one will be best when using abdoslop mods cuz I refuse to use nocape mods
>>562083389if bugs are not currently attacking you it is always safe to assume there is a patrol headed almost straight for you anywhere from 80-30 meters away because of swedish trickery. Be vigilant about checking your flanks because bugs are all about speed and the sound design is so terrible they are allowed to walk right up next to you and nuzzle (maul) you without making a perceptible noise.Because of aforementioned patrols, try not to spend too long sitting in one spot if you’re not fighting a breach (breaches usually stop patrols from spawning). Like the other anon said, if you can keep a lid on bug breaches they’re usually not so much of a problem, but you usually need more than just orbital napalm and forget. Heavy-centric seeds can be problematic if you don’t bring your own (RELIABLE) AT (the ultimatium is not reliable AT). This is especially true if nobody else on your team has something that can deal with three heavies a minute. If you don’t, one or more people will spend the whole game at the charger rodeo.If you have a primary weapon that will kill you when used at close range, you probably should take a reliable conventional secondary to kill bugs directly on top of you, or to pick them off your teammates.
>>562084210>greenOrks or Lizard people?
New guns
>>562083342why are you complaining, this change alone would have the FRV's pick rate skyrocket
>>562084453>chargewhat does it mean?
>>562084453>laser rifle chargea chargeup like a quasar maybe? or a ramping up double edged scythe?
>>562084251>beam touches one leg for a split second>dies>that'll be a 10 minute cooldown + tip
>>562084453talon primary?
>>562084453
>>562084453I really like how these look.
>>562083389Full gas build is a good build heavy gas armor + vitality boostergas grenades, orbital gas strike, dog breath, you can either use a napalm barrage or ems as the 4th stratagem or the gas mines/gas mortar, bugs will get close but your dog breath will confuse them, your armor + vitality booster literally lets you stand in orbital gas strikes and not take damage, while the rest is usually for dealing with bug breaches, the sterilizer is nice to use too if you run into chargers
>>562084656which is a guarantee they will be shit :(
>>562084647it's supposedly the tanto, so an smg with a pulse beam like the trident.
>>562084453>It's not a laser dmr that shoots like the tridentsad
>>562084745so what the sickle should have been instead of a gay star wars blaster
https://playstationresearch.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_czHPkkpDRWuPIJUNew player feedback is up.
>>562084453>gas smgCould be cool
>>562083452I still don't know who that is
New armor sets
im anticipating a armor debuff addition to gas in the future if fire does exactly what gas does but better
>>562084564How bad can mechs really be let's ask the wik->leg has AV2, 80% durable, 250 HP, fatalmeanwhile harvester beam>1400 DPS
>>562084862why do I have a feeling bottom armor will have armor rating below 50...
>>562084853gas or acid rounds?
>>562084918well it doesn't do the same thing
>>562084862
Major Order: SUCCESSBugnigger sandbaggers: BTFO
>>562084862>Motorcycle helmetHAMMER BROS?
>>562084251the FRV does its use well because its not made for direct combat, the Bastion is genuinely best used as some pseudo-artillery, but its still a genuine paperweight durability-wise Mechs would actually be pretty alright for what they are if they reduced the CD to 4 minutes and removed the limit, but as they are right now you're just flat out griefing
>>562083565>>>562083624>>562084136she's a fridge
>>562085127while you were shooting redditors on rirga bay, I was keeping your destroyer fueledkneel before BUG GODS
>>562085127anon they're like toddlers, they can't read and don't pay attention to anything, they just play with their toys and enjoy life in the way only a retard can. Without worries or pesky thoughts
why didnt I get medals for MO :(
>>562084953meanwhile the ballistic shield has 600 hp with ap3 70% durablewtf is command doing?
>>562085257>
>>562084823pretty much
>>562085257I wasn't talking about her MILF body but rather how she actually doesn't hate the community and the community doesn't hate her. She's one of the rare few CMs that actually does a good job instead of creating PR nightmares by being arrogant faggots who can't deal with criticism (their job)
>>562085127So random bug attack in an hour then? Sounds like the void stuff is going on the back burner for a bit.
>>562084862>>562085069do we have any passives/stats?
>>562084862I drive
>>562085507She also used to be very tight with /wfg/ in the very early days
is 10k SCs enough to last me for a while as I fear they will patch that shit soon?
>>562085507fair nuff
>>562084650So...what is the smart missile pistol going to be? Weaker than the ultimatum but has lock-on/tracking and more shots?
>>562085127Joel lowered his izzat 3 times so you could take the most boring planet of the galactic front - zombie bay
>>562084410Triffids
You guys actually broke me. It is IMPOSSIBLE for me to go back to playing with randoms against bots. Jesus Christ have you SEEN how shitty randoms are? How absolutely dumb fucking retarded most of them are? How insanely un-fucking cooperative they are.No matter how much i tried to cooperate with them they just either fucking die. Contribute nothing. Or solodive, die at the other side of the map and TK when reinforced at the opposite side. Voice commands don't do shit either. They don't FUCKING LISTEN. I FUCKING HATE RANDOMS HOLY CHRIST.
>>562085372Wondering that tooKilled tens of thousands of zambies, it's more about the principle of it
>>562086305yes, once you go /hdg/, you don't go back.I would rather close the game if nobody join my lobby than play with randoms nowadays.
>>562086305Let me guess, you just tried a bots flag mission with randoms
>>562086305Me too, I'll only ever play with my brothers or anons from here, randoms may as well not exist
>>562086090it's a little low, but that's also 10 warbonds if you ignore the super store. Wait for a lobby here or look for high level d1 chinks on the most populated bug planet>>562086383>>562085372they're always delayed, it will come
>>562086750warbonds always contain 300SC so it's actually 13 warbonds if you ignore the super store.
>>562086305joined an hdg cyberstan lobby and it was the best fun I've had with the game. My team on the tank and me following behind on foot slowing down any stragglers that could flank us
>>562086305I had to ALWAYS BRING THE MOST META SHIT POSSIBLE just to be safe. OGB, STRAFE, LEVELLER, SUPPLYPACK, ULTI, PYROTECH. There is no room for fun strat picks because apparently RANDOMS ARE TOO RETARDED TO DELETE VOX AND HEAVIES. Allowing it to snowball into a VOX PACK that will rape them into a deathloop.>inb4 crutch packFUCK you i don't care. You NEED that shit with supply hogging randoms.>>562086472That's the worst part. Even on a normal 40 minute mission these people just eat up to 6 reinforcements per bot drop. It's INSANE.
>>562086750Ah, okay, thank you. New-ish Xbox diver here, i haven't been on when the MO has finished before, usually on later
>>562086305Lower the difficulty
Do roving shriekers and gunship patrols not exist anymore I haven't seen em in months
>>562083732how are they going to justify the shield being worse than the ballistic shield stratagem? both take one slot but the mech also has a gun
>>562084453>octodruple smg round drag>sell piss smgand the powercreep keeps on marching
>>562087128they broke it and no one ever brought it to attention
>>562077498it was more fun because it was more challenging
>>562085507Bro, they're canadians. You don't get to hear the community's complaints because you're swiftly silenced if you say anything that can be mildly construed as negative.There's only yes-men left. The rest left long ago, got banned or silenced.
>>562086305>waaaaah why don't random people from random parts of the world play this PvE 0 difficulty vibeslop as a tacticool coop milsim?!?!?!?!?!?! THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNREASONABLE REEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY DON'T THEY LISTEN TO MY ORDERS?!?!?!
>>562087364
>>562087075>>562087375+izzat
>>562086940/hdg/ D10 bots pre-60 days patch was the most kino fun in this game. that shit was the real trench divers experience.
>>562086305bot rando is more fun than the chud lobbies here. literal snooze fest
>>562084958Soon
>>562087823Why speed 420 while it should be 620?
These would be a cool bug typeDroidekas bugs
Walking with a broken leg is more fun than walking with a healthy leg because it's more challenging
>>562079065>canon can't into basic mathbehemoth head is 1600 HPass is 950 HPboth are 25% explosive resistanthammer does 2200 explosive damage2200 * 0.75 = 1650 damage
>>562087965dude weed lmao and artfags almost never play the game
d10 phACK bay bugssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244705043233/76561198005075969
>>562087332Alexus was right
How do the swedes feel about the overwhelming amount of anime fan art for their game?
>>562083342I would contemplate using the frv supply simply as a personal resupply pod to resupply my backpack support weapon. Cooldown is a bit rough, but I'd consider it.
>>562087965>>562088119No it's because anyone who wears it gets pregnant and is thus weighed down by their brewing baby
>>562088229Well they're almost certainly jacking off to it, so
>>562087332also>piss smg>mech warbond>ar15 buffer tube stock>not even foldable Muh Realism, just like in my chinese animu
I like the sweeper and spear gun. I think I shall use those and the grenade pistol.
>>5620882093/4
>>562088594FVLLBUG RAPE IMMINENT
I would like anime fanart more if they were drawn being bullied and snuffedI dont want to fuck them..
nobody cares tr*nime troon
Just had icy tank kino on planet Marfag blowing up striders, command bunkers, and everything else. God I love running over cyborgs.
>>562089110back to sperg for another eight hours?
>>562089160>AK pointed directly at ya boys faceAh, horrors beyond my comprehension
>>562063605>>562063815just projectile swap the autocannon (too technical for the swigger)>Early specifications called for non-lethal crowd control in a shotgun format, and the first Crambos rolled out right as one of the largest food riots in Nobrean history began. Though initially effective, non-lethal tactics can only slow district sized mobs and as NEP policy forbade riot suppression task forces from equipping any lethal munitions, army casualties soon mounted.>Once word had spread of soldier deaths, district garrisons stopped being so keen on the “non-lethal” aspect. In what became known as the “Lannois Special”, maintenance crews began swapping out the Crambo shells’ rubber beads for metal ones off ball bearings. While the army officially condemned the practice, as the riots grew worse an official variant carrying large flechette payloads was soon put into production. We’ve all seen the pictures of what those shells do to crowds.
>>562089614It's not pointed directly at him.
>>562089110>tr*nime troonIll never forgive you roids for letting them take that and doing nothingCongrats you get to say slurs online but even youre still censoring yourself like a good goySpineless faggot you let trans win when they barely exist
>>562066842>due to swedish realism, this thing is going to have the lowest ergo in the game
>>562066842>>562090794if this god damn thing doesn't have medium pen and the damage of the MMG and the handling of the stalwart I'm not going to be happy
>>562090794it's caseless ammo so it shouldn't be too heavy
so since with the trident the whole "you pay for infinite ammo with low DPS" was thrown out the window can the scythe get 600 DPS now?please?
>>562091442Why the fuck would it have the handling of the stalwart look at the size of the fucking thing
>>562091539Yeah, but all of that ammo is loaded in a bunch of barrels grouped up in a big fucking box. That's all the reason they'd need to give it shit ergo imho.
>>562091653The trident actually requires some skill not to overheat though.
>>562091442>it's gonna have MG damage with HMG handeling and 500 rounds on a 3min CD
>>562091940>3min CDmore like 5-7
>>562092124>
>>562091908
>>562091442>this is gonna have Stalwart AP and damage with HMG ergo, and a 6 minute cooldown because it can kill more enemies than the EAT, NEAT, or Leveller
>>562091908Kinda wish laser guns were more like that. More dps, more heat.Currently overheating them is pretty hard to do making most of the lasers gimmick a null factor.
>>562081380lol sweet
>>562091827I didn't ask why, I said I'd be unhappy with it because I want to run an all expendables build that isn't just rocket launchers and I desperately want it to be good and not shit
>>562088021>Droidekas bugsdroidekas are robots. isopods are the bug. if you want droideka robots, then say so.
>>562088021would be a cool spin (heh) on the spewers
>>562088021Love these little goofballs.
>>562092484I think the gimmick of the lasers right now is being able to use them without ever reloading them, that's about the only thing they really have going for them.
>>562092727Bugs are natural robotsBugs can roll around before robots
Have the fire changes done something for the Scythe? Is the Scythe back?
Assuming your support weapon slot is already filled and it can't do it, what'd be the best way to take out bile titans? ultimatum? EATs and cope with juggling the support weapon around? Strafing run or rocket pods?
>>562093245"Fire changes" is just the flamethrowers being given a 1 second confusion effect on the enemies they hit.
>>562093245It didn't affect any fire damage other than the direct stream of flamethrowers.
>>562093278>UltiUntrustworthy arc and true hit box The explosion is a visual memeEATs are the way2 can do em inRailcannon strike is an instant kill but thats 1 orbital that takes minutes to chargeRocket pods are also a meme
>>562093083Don't most bugs also use hydraulics rather than muscles to move their legs?
>>5620882093/4 again
>>5620882093/4 we need (You)
>>562093589Don't know about most, but spiders make use of such a system yes. It's why they curl up as they do when they die. The pressure is gone.
So has the vehicle bay been released yet?
>swedes about to take a 2 week vacation for easterAre you ready for filler MO tomorrow?
>>562093475>>562093494that's lame and gay
>>562093278orbital railgun?
>>562093589Spiders have blood pumps that move their body but cant say the same for other bugs
Just making sure but this game is voice translated into different languages yeah? So when I say "I need supplies", "tagging location" or "Thank you" the other guy hears it in spanish, german, chinese whatever right
>>562091827>PROSsmoothed design (+ergo)no bulky magazine (+ergo)caseless ammo (lower weight, +ergo)no muzzle device or optic (+ergo)>CONSfront heavy (-ergo)large and wide boxed barrel design (-ergo, +spread)non-zero chance that it cannot be fired during an ion storm
>>562094053are you retard?
>>562094053If you give a Spanish comm and English player will hear it in EnglishIts up to the player's settings
>>562094243No, but the cunt with the supply pack I'm standing right next to spamming "I need supplies" clearly doesn't fucking understand me
>>562092295isnt that gif for 6-7 not 5-7 ?
>>562093278Ultimatum and 500kg, both work for chargers or bunched up bugs too. Can’t really go wrong, if roaches are about the rail strike is also good
>>562066842>12 seconds base call in delay
>>562083131>>562083489They should give it an indestructible shield like devestators and see how fun and fair that is
Is it dumb idea to support the swedes for Knight SMG?
Is infinite warp pack hack possible?
>>562094997already exists
>>562092553how much ergonomics do you think the current MMG has?
>>562093937>Are you ready for filler MO tomorrow?As long as the map is good for faming super credits i am content.
>>562095112Swamp planet with thick fog and exostorm sandstorms
>>562094410its MY supply pack not OUR supply packyou communist
>>562095340It's Super Earth's supply pack, not your supply packYou anarchist
>>562094049I have never seen a bug with abs and biceps, have you?
Alright who left food out on the table we have a roach infestation
>>562093541>>562094047>>562094490>orbital railcannon has a 2.5 to 3.75 minute cd>it nukes 1 (ONE!) heavy>this isn't nearly enough to deal with just bile titans, even if you deal with every charger and impaler some other way>oh also sometimes ion storms just cuck it entirelyvs>2 EATs every minuteWho the fuck thinks this is balanced?
>>562095934I dont see you with abs..
>>562096601>Who the fuck thinks this is balanced?Me
>>562096257we are raping the squids into nothingnessthe void will not save them
>>562096601Going out of your way to grab an EAT is enough of a filter for some divers..
>>562096257the bugs don't hunt they're territorial
>>562096601Yeah it’s a shame, 70 second cooldown with all upgrades would make it amazing, but roaches are fucking cancer so unless you want to bring a recoilless to bugs it’s the best option. Ultimatum headshot will kill a roach in one shot but not always easy to land
>>562096845What the fuck do they eat on hive worlds?
>>562096953rocks. they're space magic
>>562096835You could waste half a minute picking up each one and still come out more efficient than if you got a good use out of ORCS off cooldown.
>>562095069like 20 or something, it's not great. why?
>>562096845bug claws typed this post
>>562097102It's 15. This is an expendable version of the MMG with all the ammo on the gun itself and it's extremely front heavy. you wanting it have as much ergo as the stalwart at 45 is a ridiculous standard
Play EPOCH bros>>562094410Many players in this game are blind degenerates.
>>562097352We would never do such a thing Anon. Bugs only want peace with Humans
>>562052417nerve gas
>>562088209OH MY FUCKING GOD
>>562097474I don't really get why people seem to sleep so much on the epoch.It might be the best roach killer out there.
>>562097831>I don't really get why people seem to sleep so much on the epoch.it requires the tiniest amount of skill expression so naturally it is extremely potent shitter repellent
>extract from 3 missions PO>join late Blitz missions>ezpz
>>562097831RR in HE mode is better
>>562097451it's a 3d printed metal storm machine gun with caseless ammo that's meant to last for 300 shots and then get thrown away, you think they couldn't cut some corners to make it lighter? if it's just worse than the mmg except that you don't lose it if you die in the middle of a huge horde of bugs or fall into a hole, why would anyone bother using it? and since when has a weapon being front heavy had anything to do with the ergo stat? it's a balancing tool based on how heavy the swedes think a weapon is and nothing more, or the AMR would have 15 ergo too since anti materiel rifles usually weigh more than gpmgs
>>562098148>RR in HE mode is bettergrim and "people" glaze that thing
>>562097451>>562098169It should be noted that caseless ammo is substantially more compact and lightweight than standard cartridges. That was one of the driving forces behind trying to make caseless ammo work back in the day.
>>562098169>and since when has a weapon being front heavy had anything to do with the ergo stat?
>>562098148Where do I aim with HE?
>>562098148Say sike right now >>562097831It was complete dogshit on release and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn due to innate spread. What all have they changed about it? I was away for Cyberstan.
>>562098780>What all have they changed about it?increased the damage, increased the safety margin before it blows up, synced the visuals with the full power shot, and massively reduced the spread
>>562098519this is because they're combination weapons or have gimmick firing modes that do a gorillion damage and has nothing to do with being front heavy. If weapons being front heavy mattered for ergo, the leveller wouldn't have the same ergo stat as EATs, and the airburst rocket launcher wouldn't have the same ergo stat as the RR, and the autocannon (with all its weight on your shoulder) would have more than 17 ergo.
>>562098321The draw of the epoch, HE RR, and the NEAT vs roaches is that the wings are unarmored and AOE attack can multiply their damage output to main by splashing multiple wings with simple center of mass shots. Epoch is OK at killing roaches but it is held back by the awkward charge timer and the pathetically small AOE radius. RR HE mode is easier to aim and has a much larger AOE radius. Both can kill a roach in about 2 center of mass attacks, give or take a bit of damage. That is a lot easier than landing an eat/quasar/RR headshot on their spastic asses. NEAT has the potential for the roach to get entangled in all of the submunitions and get splattered in one center of mass hit.
>>562098148
>>562098912>>562098780Note that the spread is still an order of magnitude worse than comparable weapons. This is an improvement over being two orders of magnitude worse. IIRC stuff like EAT/and RR have spread values of 4 while the memepoch has a spread of 30, and the original spread value was some triple digit meme.
>>562099082The wings are unarmored and get fucked over by RR HE splashing 3-4 wings at once for a 200-300% effective damage multiplier against the roach's main hp pool.
>>562099207only matters when hitting hulk eyes, everything else has a big enough weakspot the spread is functionally meaningless
>>562099393It matters a lot since in practice the epoch shoots for the same weak points as the railgun, expect it can brute force AP5 frontal armor if you must
>AC>RR>Eat>ABRL
>>562099393This.I also feel like i have gotten good enough to consistently hit hulk eyes anyway.
>>562099536>It matters a lot since in practice the epoch shoots for the same weak points as the railgun, you don't need 4 spread to be able to hit the head of a bile titan or behemoth, or the heatsink of a tank
>>562099707RR
>>562100003Its in no particular order
>>562099720>>562099724>it is OK for the AT weapon whose damage is most dependent on sniping hulk/war strider eyes and has the most demanding timing restrictions to take agency out of the players hands with a full order of magnitude inferior spread compared to alternative AT options>this doesn't even take into account that most rival options have superior projectile speeds or flatter ballistic arcs Get back in the basement Alexus.
>>562100294Did i stutter my nigga
>>562099707abrl because the amount of bucktoothed chink retards i've had to kick because they keep blowing everyone up with it is honestly absurd
>>562096953probably the fungus they farm
Are we shitposting that the RR isn't good, or shitposting that the RR is a crutch?
>>562099536Now 1 hit a tank vent or blast a dog with the RG.
>>562088209gg thanks for joining guys, I am now fully autism certified thanks to /hdg/
>>562100902we're shitposting pretending the epoch isn't a steaming pile of shit and that if you don't like it it's your fault for being bad
>>562100902RR is a crutch dont (You) me, you raped slaves
I don't like bugs
>>562101174Thankfully there's 2 entire factions to play
It appears (You) are losing
>a weapon that needs precise aiming, knowledge of actual enemy weakpoints, gravity drop calculation and travel time calculation to one-hit heavy targets is a crutchholy shit why is there so much r*ddit here today
heres the slave^^^^
>>562101593your "slave" is making sure your D10 missions actually get completed while you run circles away from enemies with your meme loadout
>>562101320the companion doesn't count cities right
>>562101683Clean it up AT janny!
>a weapon that needs precise aiming, knowledge of actual enemy weakpoints, gravity drop calculation and travel time calculation to one-hit heavy targetsBut enough about the EATs
>>562100394I honestly don't understand the complaints about the spread, the projectile flies quite accurately. You can hit terminid holes from over 100 meters away, and even hitting a flying bastard isn't a problem. Perhaps 14k hours in War Thunder allows me to quickly get used to any ballistics, but this is really not a problem.
>>562102182It's kinda crazy to think there are people who need to put effort into using EATs, it's like breathing to me.Point it at something and fire, and it just hits.
>surplus inventory: 2 minute cooldown. Deploys a random blue stratagemWould you use it?
is there a cheat that adds a reticle to the AMR?
>>562102415Spread doesn't have anything to do with ballistics. It's litterally just random variance that is completely detached from your skill.
>>562102537that's OP as fuck, anon. of course I'd use it.
>>562102550LTD
>>562102726there's no reticle on lower difficulties either
>>562102704>>this doesn't even take into account that most rival options have superior projectile speeds or flatter ballistic arcsThe epoch has a self-destruct projectile after 150m. At a real shooting range, neither the ballistics nor the spread make any difference.
>>562102726why does he need to learn to drive to use a rifle?
I'm not bringing the Epoch because each mag only allows 3 shots. that feels too weird to use and I hate the aesthetic of plasma weapons
>>562100902Shitposting about HE mode being useful, I think.
>>562102718>not pictured>drop table is weighted to mostly spawn the sterilizer
>gas gets a complete remake because it was just a fire reskin>now fire weapons have a similar gimmick while also dealing 10x the damage of gasWhat's the move, brap bros?
I did it… I retvrned to /coopg/
>>562103412gas mines doesn't instagib you like when you step on an incendiary mine at least
>>562103412Fire only confuses enemies if you're actively cookin' 'em. Gas weapons linger and provide area denial longer (except the sterilizer) and you don't get cooked as quickly by it so they're more forgiving for blue on blue.
>arrowhead >no bow no arrow in game
>>562103412Gas mines are still pretty damn effective. I just throw it on every bug bridge and finish the mission with 400-800 frags.
>>562103925ever sonce crysis 3 had that dumb bow gimmick ive hated the ultra high tech bow meme
>>562103925Oh my reddit arrowhead please add a heckin bow I NEED IT
>>562104154Just make it a basic powerful bow with fancy explosive arrows. Nothing fancy. Pic related is me, showing what it could look like in game.
>>562101356>>a weapon that needs precise aiminglol>>knowledge of actual enemy weakpoints,lmao
>>562104412>needs a quiver backpack>CAN be teamloadedFeed or sneed?
>>562104412>fancy explosive arrows. Nothing fancy.
>>562104412>Just make it a basic powerful bow with fancy explosive arrowsTo be honest, I'm sick of this explosive arrow shit. I want a regular bow with regular arrows, imagine if this thing could increase its armor penetration from light to heavy depending on the tension. It was a good weapon for stealth or just ripping off the heads of alpha commanders.
We just need the backpack sterilizer to come out, with the associated balancing, and Team Brap will be back on top.
>>562103170How is it not useful vs dragon roach wings?
>>562104848Increasing the range would make this thing damn good, but these fucking morons are too dumb for that.
>>562105020that wouldn't do. the gas dog has more range since it can fly out and meet the enemyit needs to leave lingering clouds. hell it (and the gas pistol) need to also inflict the acid debuff for it to have any value
Whats the justification of ORS having such a huge cooldown? It can at best one-shot a few elites like dragonroaches or Bile Titans and most of the time theres multiple of them around.They could reduce the cd to 90 seconds after all upgrades.
>>562105946the game is balanced around d3 where chargers are mission bosses
>>562105946>hats the justification of ORS having such a huge cooldown? Ithe game is not balanced around the highest difficulty
>>562062651
>>562105946it doesn't one-shot bile titans unless it hits the head. Wild right?
>>562105946devs only play d6 at most, and the ability to instantly kill a single heavy there is super strong
>>562106176They should have different stratagem balances for 1-4, 5-7, 8-10. Theres several MMORPGs that feature different skill balancing wether ots PvP or PvE.
Bugs are fun as hell when the pubbies don't rundive
>>562106675that doesn't sound very realistic and would ruin the grunt fantasy
new bread doko
>>562106779no
don't bake new bread, return to /coopg/
3 consecutive crashes
>>562106710>fags run from first fightyeah it's gonna be a shit dive
>>562107452Do they even play their games there?i stg i'll never undertand the point of a general that doesn't actually play the game togetherlike just spew your dogshit unfiltered opinion and avatar fag on /v/ at that point
>>562107534same? do you have any mods?I have only BFA and a few abdomera mods.
How do squidsissies feel that Daddy Joel had to help them win their MO that they misplayed?
>>562106265>it doesn't one-shot bile titans unless it hits the head.why do people who don't even play the game feel the need to post here?
>>562108545+izzat
New>>562109227>>562109227>>562109227
>>562104613is that HE?
>>562109453no, it's HEAT
