New bread for a lazy thread>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-25-2026-update.121766/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/>Previous thread: >>562029234
sex with geist
geist with sex
>enemy has mina/wraith>already know they will go 20/0 and never die because no one but me will buy slowing hex>they just dispel my hex
>>562067578rem when he sees geists big milkers and can't resist the temptation to milk them dry
>>562064547>yuritroon
geist is ugly as fuck and only troons pick her
every character i hate is ugly as fuck and only troons pick them
>>562067736just admit you're a homosexual no need to make it about troons
>>562067013 >If you die three times to a guy nearly instantly and then kill him once at ten minutes, you're actually ahead on money Not really Assuming you somehow died 3 times in the first second, and then killed the other guy you'd get about 737 souls for a kill at 10 minutes while each of their three kills nets them 250 for 750 altogether And that's not really accounting for the time you're spending on a respawning or attacking them instead of getting last hits, falling even more behind And ofc once they have an entire items worth of a lead on you it's easy for them to creep further ahead by stealing your farm and sinners I'm not saying you can't come back from a bad laning phase, I'm just saying the phase of the game does matter
So when do you guys think they will release a new batch of heroes, sept+?
What's a decent alt cast key? I'm using m4 but kinda want to free the button up for something else.
>>562068037Thinking August or September, maybe october.
>>562068037They sould only release a few more to round out the initial roster and actually make an effort to finish the already existing characters and updating the jungle n map
>>562068037Hopefully not any time soon finish the remodels for existing heroes at least
>>562068141August is way too early, though I could see a medium sized update for character remodels/partial reworks to character like Holiday to keep people invested by then.Valve time is in effect
>>562067726>Nursing handjob before bedtimeLucky little shit
Paige is a dogfucker
>>562067726canon
>>562067736Someone lost to a Hag Maxxxer and is sour.
>lobby filled with russians>constant mid-game pressure, pure emotions (from seething rage to joy), a lot of attention to objectives>seethes yet still continues to play and try to turn the game upside down>25-35min games>eurolobby>LARPers>LoL niggers ready to ruin the game by disconnecting/ intentional 0/20 feed if they got a hard lane/didn't get the character they wanted >passive gameplay, farm the whole jungle, don't even try to break from their farm loop even when the T2 is burning>special cases of troons with specific voices>eastern euros use unsatisfying plain curses like "dog" or "dogwater", lot of passive agression, trained by modern games chat policy>western euros whine a lot, not even rage, just whine>ukrainians/ belarusians/ baltics/moldovian considered as east euros, behaves and perceived same as russians, easily detected by "))))" and strange typos, so EU matchamking is truly a roulette>30-35+ minute games
every other successful non-valve game has found a way to make all the russians only play with each other so why don't valve just copy those tactics. if you type in cyrillic then you go to the russian pool, easy.
>>562067953If you're not in lane your lane partner gets the souls you're missing. If both players are sitting in the spawn for whole 10 mins sure. If enemy player gets a head few thousand souls it doesn't matter much if you focus/lock him down in the team fight. Ultimately the time after the laning phase matters much more.One good gank can change it upside down. The player ahead in souls often gets overaggressive/overconfident and chases you to the walker and dies to overextending. Just like the shit players feed the players getting ahead are probably are not super pro either.
I can't stop gooning to Mina...
Feel like im griefing myself in low ranks (emissary) because i really gravitate towards pick and teamfight heroes, but there's very rarely any followup, i'll see two allies on the map around the corner and slam a paraswap or dynamo ult only to watch them continue boxing or doing whatever they were up to, or i'm stuck in a spot where i'm constantly a lanyjanny and never get to use my abilities in a fightWhat type of character should i play to get more value out of having to push/lane janny and take/escape individual fights with no followup
>>562068389ДABAЙ ДABAЙ *dies* CУКA БЛЯTЬ ИДИ HA ХУЙ
>>562068418They're unironic russophiles. They have many Russians working for the company full-time and part-time too. Get yourself a VPN because they're not going away.
>>562068498ggs end ffs
>>562067953Largely depends on who you are laning against and what character they are playing. You could go 0/10 to an average Rem player and it wouldnt matter, beyond being definitive proof you are shit and should uninstall, since he'll spend the rest of the game griefing his team, but if you go 0/5 to an Apollo that's being played aggressively then he can just snowball to fucking all your lanes for the next 15 minutes.
>>562068389NA lobby is just everybody calling each other Israeli/IDF/Epstein/pedos nonstop
>>562068460I will goon with you.
Can you spot the problem here?
>>562068460Shes too perfect.
>>562068468main reason why I like playing geist, I just throw one bomb at wave and it's usually deadactually are there other characters who are that good at clearing?
>>562068592discord tag
>people that keep losing their lane coping in the last threadHilarious, the argument of "but you can comeback" doesn't matter since people getting outplayed and stomped in lane is a sign they are retarded 99% of the time.
Mina stop feeding you naughty girl... they are slowing sexing you...
>>562068639it's brool so it will be interrupted instantly?
>>562068378Vyper rework could literally be just this and it'd work.
>>562068735Look again. Even if it does, who cares?
>>562068639yeah you got this shit in brool
>>562068591And its all just safe edgy shit, shit talk jews for real and they'll get pissy and report you>>562068662any carry will clear wave fast after getting a few gun items, dynamo stomp also clears fast if you hit all the creeps, Mina 1 is busted for lane and jungle creeps plus her passive one shots them after a few mins of game time
extra regen and stay near guardian shooting minions its not that hard to win lane desu desu
>>562068389>>562068591A good East EU lobby is generally more entertaining than NA, but your lows will be insanely low.
>>562067953Killstreak bounty.
>>562068869MR and ER are my go to first buys to any build.
>>562068668you first.
>>562068591NA is comically averse to real insults for some reason. I feel like I never see anyone drop a good old fashioned "kill urself nigger" whereas on EU it's pretty much an everyday staple.
>wall is useless and doesn't even damage anymore>beam basically doesn't scale and the stop is negligible>ult is useless without your team, it throws you into the enemy team like a suicide bomber minus the bomb, and it's the easiest skill shot to missWhat's the point of Paradox
>bunch of cute and sexy girls>porn is all hyperdegen, futashit or ugly tumblr shipping art
I'm always fucking late to abusing broken heroes, I just know Mirage is getting nerfed in like ten hours. I built my MMR the true and honest way, spamming Seven, but I'm ready to get the fuck out of Phantom now
How do we fix Silver?
>>562069439We send her to rehab.
>>562069439why does she not have her shotgun and why does she have 3 hands
>>562069281dude but if you build bomb you can slaughter the entire team
>>562069439>two guns>The most shitty looking guns ever>Three handsIs someone actually selling this shit?
>>562069439Babymaking sex.
>>562069439>>562069548>>562069616lol this has to be ai generated
let's see what this dick can dohttps://gamebanana.com/mods/664939
>>562069439Love, marriage, impregnation, happy family ending
>>562069308I just jork to my imagination at this point.
Is there a rank decay in this game at all?>lost 5 matches>won 1 match>Still the same rankThis just doesn't make sense
They're changing the condition for holiday's crackshot so that it triggers after 3 shots on the same target, whether or not they're changing the effects is unknown currently
>>562068342see>>562067734 silvertroon
So what are you supposed to do against mirage?
This shit is so aids when fighting a dynamo and geist.
>>562070595Spirit nuke/disable him before he scarabs youBring a friendBuy dispel magic
>>>562070487Yuri game from a yuri company on a yuri launcherand you're complaining about it on the yuri website>Inb4 you start copingThere are thousands of yuri games on Steam not only approved by Valve but also being propped by Valve's algorithm. Cope.
>>562069281The point, as usual, is ult, which is useful with a team.Wall is garbage beyond the 2 second silence once you have the spare AP for itCarbine is a meme that exists mainly to just guarantee ults. It guarantees ALL skillshots by the way, so if you're a teammate to Paradox, please make goddamn use of it. It's insanely effective in lane and it somehow never occurs to people.Ult is great but it will make you want to kill yourself when some faggot just runs away from your five blind deaf teammatesBomb does absolutely nothing if you don't build bomb, so do build bomb like Yoshi wants you to. Bomb + swap back into bomb rapes if you didn't use your ult for pick.But generally, just play a better hero.
>>562070595Silence and/or Disarming Hex. If he can't use scarabs or tornado he's not living long enough to stack shit and if he can't shoot his damage drops to 0 unless he's going the echo shard tornado route.
>>562070654Dispel magic isn't really effective for the scarab since he just reapplies it.The rest is valid though.
Are the most hated heroes regardless of balance>Mo n Krill>Rem>Graves?I don't think there's any other hero that gets more hate than these three.Maybe Bebop but I feel like he's only hated because of tradition back when he was alot harder to counterplay.
This game was nothing but them spamming go to frontline and go to job
Hello game hello I've won six fucking games in a row can I get out of Oracle 1 already
>>562070965Kelvin deserves the 4th spot. He takes zero skill while having the best mobility, ult and healing in the game, at least Lash/Holiday have actually engage with movement mechanics to get the best out of their kits.
>>562070703>Yuri game>Yuri company>"There are some games on steam that very rarely reach front page sometimes!"This is actual fucking cope though.>Yuri websiteI wouldn't say /u/'s existence constitutes 4chan means it's a yuri website. /u/ fags have always been seen as annoying cucks and now they're seen as annoying cucks AND trannies.
>>562071271*locks you in a dome with a haze*oops my bad lol
>>562070654Another friend just means an extra 50+hp/s for the sandnigger.
Haze's ass is kinda big
>>562071271The most annoying part of it for me is that he gets to fucking fly like Vindicta, Mina or Grey Talon but his flying has none of the Anvilbait risks associated with it and not only it's on short cooldown, it lasts like an hour.
https://x.com/gavnobabki333/status/2038915640682041676
>>562071706That's gay sex.
>>562070965Add Bebop he's probably one of the worst characters if not the shittiest and people utterly hate him
I'm experiencing an easy mode is too easy, hard mode is too hard moment with the matchmaking currently. Went on a seeker through alchemist win streak that left me in archon but I can't compete here at all and the game is refusing to derank me.
https://x.com/Kirocinka/status/2038767596947083337
are we just posting twitter links like this is a discord now?
>>562071706>russian>all he does is post about drifter and victor bumming each otherwhat in the world...
>>562071271>He takes zero skillblatantly incorrect, he has the power to grief games so hard with dome that I consider him at least modestly skillful.
>>562071920>>562071706what is up with russians and gay sex?I thought they were against that
>>562071861he feels like the only true tank in the game right now to be honestcan spam uppercuts to get a ton of health back but does nothing to anyone besides constantly displace them
>>562071271Kelvin players are also extremely stupid and will dome right before they're killed trapping you and like 4 other people in the dome
>>562070965the only reason I seethe about Rem is that he does fucking everything with little risk and the devs keep giving him extra tools for some reason. I get angry when I have to go push wave just to see that a single boosted trooper can clear an entire lane while he farms jungle.
>>562070965Apollo? I've had multiple games where nobody wanted to swap to the Apollo lane.
>>562072081This also why can he just get sucked into someones pocket FOR FREE with 0 ZERO downsides if he's out of position? Why does his ult go through walls and why does his pillow do SO MUCH DAMAGE
>>562072028the more overtly anti gay someone is the more likely it is that they're a repressed giga-homo
>>562053165>>562071570Holliday should genuinely get 100% cut and replaced with something that's not shit. I don't even mean abilities, the character as a whole feels like a parody of a the type of shit people put in budget hero shooter knockoffs.Calico looks like shit but otherwise feels like a spirit-based hero fulfilling a similar role as Haze but without Ultbot capabilities. It's fine.Sinclair needs a deep rework but Ult copying Ult is essentially inevitable and they are as good of a chassis as any to carry it.Vyper is definitely the best one but needs a new model and some changes to the kit, but at least she has a fun personality.
they buffed doorguy again? he pulled me from my base to blue walker
>>562072269Rem really is a niggerish character, but only braindead morons seem to play him so 9 times out of 10 he is just griefing his team by eating all friendly sinners and dropping bags, and 1/10 hitting one big ult before going back to griefing. Maybe once the average skill level of the player base increases he'll become an issue and get reworked, but as is, he is protected by the idiots playing him
graves sucks now
>>562072081>little helpers spread souls across the teamI really like that and think this should be the baseline for all souls gained through them UNLESS there are nearby alliessinners should split souls and stats between the teamstatue buffs should be split as welldespite the low risk skillset he's also really low impact unless in the hands of a good player as most rems often hoard all the souls and do basically nothing with them or worse yet just hand them back to the enemy team when they inevitably die
>>562072321Holliday should be the AIM focused hero hitting and be rewarded for hitting cool shots and cowgirl stuff not "lol throw barrels" the lasso should stay the jumppad and barrel shit should fuck off
>>562072321But I love bingi Bing wahooing on jump pads and throwing barrels at people
>>562070916Its for the djinns mark. But ideally you should be dispelling 3-4 stacks of mark and a scarab.
>>562071419Not if you nuke him straight up or chain disable him.Most heros win fights when they are the first to hit their spells. I swear to god everytime someboyd complains about a hero here its always>MY GOD HERO JUST DOES X AND WINS>WHILE I DONT EVEN HAVE A FUCKING KEYBOARD OR MOUSE
>>562072590Good
>>562072321>Sinclair needs a deep rework but Ult copying Ult is essentially inevitable and they are as good of a chassis as any to carry it.He's perfect, man. Valve just needs to fix the giant backlog of bugs related to him and finish the visual overhaul.
>>562072774>t. former victard abuser and downplayer
>>562072816Agreed, So tired of brainlets that played 1 round of brawl with Sinclair proclaiming his kit sucks/has no synergy/needs a rework.You cunts don't know what you are talking about. The kit is fun as fuck and has loads of synergy. He just needs an actual model and a buttload of bug fixes
>>562072816This his kit is fun he just needs model reworks like changing his model based on who's controlling Savannah or Henry
His name is REMMY REMMY REM REMThe tiniest amongst all menHis sleep-inducing numen is what earned him his cognomenHe always smiles, and when he does, the Apollos he rileshe ignores their wiles, as in their minds, he is at all whilesHis peers call him FRIENDHis lil helpers a hand they lendand amongst his minions, they always blend,bringing objectives to their endPeople wonder: why is he so SMALL???His pillows hit like a granite wall!When they see him the Abrams bawland their Ivys to his feet they crawl!All the masses convert to be his fansas he stimulates their pineal glandsplayerbase as sleepy as when his 2 he castshis ults tend to induce a tranceand Silvers fall for him with just a glanceHis enticing aesthetics is what rile up the Mina one tricksCompelling allure belies a sense of demure"SHITRem the NOWINRATE"Said Calico with her BAITBut his kit is ORNATE and his heals are so GREAT it causes Calico's teeth to GRATEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM AND SOMNAMBULATE!
>>562072925>t. a retarded teenager who can't ever adapt
>wake up >check last thread to see what I missed >ctrl f victor >almost all of the results were meMan
>>562033779Unf, imagine Haze dreamwalking into your sleeping mind and helping you turn it from a pleasant dream to a wet one..
I dont understand this is this a bug? Why is there such a massive disparity between the bottom left investments and the investments under me?
>>562073201Been bugged for a little while now as far as I can tell. It'll show you a previously spectated player's investment in the bottom left.
>>562073201This shit happens all the time when you are spectating team mates while you are dead.It's actually crazy annoying and has existed waaaay to long. Can't be that hard to fix either.Looks like you were spectating graves
>>562073201Visual bug.
Silver girl failure with bush mod.Silver animal I have become ult sound mod.Time to get GAY
The joke writes itself
>Shiv that's just been breaking boxes 90% of the game keeps yelling at me for NOT BEING IN TEAMFIGHTS because I committed the grave sin of killing 2 walkers by myselfFuck this monkey character
>>562073302>>562073310>>562073323Thanks anons :)
>>562073408His criticism hit you so hard you're here seething about it now, along with not posting a screenshot of a match page. Make me think you are lying anon
>>562073016damn rem looks like THIS??
pve will save deadcock
>>562073680das right
PETRIFY!
Why does Spirit Abrams work so well? The one ability it relies on has an extremely long fuck cooldown, but despite that it works. Is the hero that OP?
>>562073902More game modes that aren't MOBAslop will save Deadlock
>>562072629>>562072642You should be able to build for one or the other
>>562074246he can build pretty much anything so ye
>>562073408He tried to be nice
>>562074246He is what Victor isn't allowed to be
>>562074246He's fundamentally a tank. As long as you build him to be tough enough to rush in it doesn't matter where his damage comes from.
>>562074235I love her Lash trinkets and snitties
>>562067719>be ivy support main>go curse every game>new patch arrives and fundamentally changes how you're supposed to play her>start building web echo>not a single retard will buy curse now because it comes with a damage penaltycan they just like remove the purge and the damage penalty so people start buying it again...
>>562074030why is he abrams shaped
Okay now that the previous patch's #1 hero got dumpstered can we kill the #2 hero Haze's ult build is the most dishonest shit in the game now.
>>562075010This. Every Haze player is either a drooling 0/10 baby or a 20/0 smurf using aimhacks, nothing in between
>>562074843Would be a nice touch if finished Vyper had the early Lash scarf.
>>562075082Not what I'm crying about, you dagger and press 4 which is a totally free kill, and later you pop unstoppable and press 4 and win a teamfight for free.
Buying Mina expensive gifts!Taking Mina out to expensive restaurants!Feeding Mina a pint of your own blood every month!Marrying Mina so you can do this for the rest of your life!
soul exchange needs a cast time so you can counterspell it more reliably, right now a geist can do it at any point between 1% and 60% of her hp
Ricochet split shot Paige
>>562075234killing mina with a stake so she dies
>>562074246Life drain is lowkey good and I max it first now. Boundless+spirit lifesteal +healing booster every game.>>562074253Glad someone is saying it. The MOBA aspect is actually the biggest weak link in this God-tier game.>>562074787Stay mad Vicsissy. Your character was OP unkillable for way too long and you know it. We Abrams representatives have been suffering under the boot-heel of being weak for too long.
>>562073902>THENStreet Brool will SAVE Deadlock>NOWRisk of Lock will SAVE Deadlock>SOON????
>>562075008why isn't he lash shaped
Retard Bebops put echo shard on his bombCHAD Bebops put echo shard on his hook
when we are we going to talk about how OP Shiv is now?
>>562074787>victortwink emo hero for foids>abramsmuscular gigachad with a big book I'd let Abrams keep doing what he's doing too.
>>562075476I'm not mad I'm just depressed I don't think any character should feel like victor right now
>>562075609GIGABRAIN Bebops put two bombs on the Abrams teammate that just pinged "going in"
>Keybinds for specific heroes for EVERY hero>pick sinclair >steal silver ult (specific keybinds on silver)>still sinclar hotkeys
When are the niggers going to be nerfed? I'm tired of being disabled for 4 years by every wraith point and click ult.
>>562070965Graves kit is just fucking annoying. Summoners are always annoying and Graves commits the cardinal sin of having very annoying counterplay but playing her is really easy and a bunch of her abilities have a few minor cheap tricks. It's really easy to hit people with your gun and it's one of the best next to Ivy for applying debuffs.Rem has so much annoying shit stuffed into him>Early lane spirit nuke with a decent slow and displacement>Good early lane gun when he's a support>Free escape the MOMENT he sees a teammate + self and teammate heal that can be chain casted onto the entire team + can be cast on helpered' minions in a pinch>Oh my god his helpers. Jesus fucking christ this ability is so outrageously filled with utility. Minion buffing and lane pushing, mass sinner harvesting, teammate spirit res and move speed.>His ult is honestly not that annoying but why the fuck does this thing go through walls and does it REALLY need unstop on T3?Not to mention he's one of 2 and a half heroes that gets tunnel boxes and can just run tunnels.I get that he's not even the best hero ever or even good. But fuck I hate him when he's on my team because he just gives the enemy team our sinner bags. I hate him when he's on the enemy team because every sinner on our side is just gone and he's perma farming tunnels with 60k while everyone is at 30k. I hate laning against him, I hate teamfighting against him, I hate his jungling and hunting him down. I have no words to describe how obnoxious he is.His character is pretty cute though.
>>562075771To play devil's advocate you shouldn't be stealing silver ult tee bee aych.
>>562073902AS LONG AS I CAN SOME HOW STACK "INCREASE MELEE DISTANCE" IN THE NEW PVE MODE LIKE ITS FUCKING ROR 1 THIS GAME BOTH PVP AND PVE WILL EAT HOURS, HOURS OF MY LIFE.
>>562074235Fantastic.
>>562075792there will never be a balance patch in this game in which they nerf op nigger heros without buffing a couple new ones to that tier
>>562075906What if he's gun Sinclair?
>>562075906all ults to steal are situational and sinclair basically has his ult up every minute
>>562075971GOD I fucking despise blizzard-tier "okay it's X turn to be OP now." balancing.
I wonder if they will ever change towers to be anything more than the worthless shit they are now
>>562075971Think deadslop devs were just making up some shitty project that was kind of believable but internally believed would never take off just to pretend to work and get paid? Then the leaks happened and it took off and none of them actually want to work on this game.
>>562076095>This character has a low pick/winrate this must mean they suck!>*creates a monster*
>>562075906except that its great to do in lane, retard
>>562076204Guardians no longer "melee" but GRAB you like Roshan in dota and TOSS your ass away.walkers are still wip
risky dangerous werewolf sexever thought about that, deadtards?
>>562075476>spirit lifestealgarbage since he already has 100% lifesteal, just get armour.
>>562076309Whats up with all the Shiv seethe? Are these the same people that babyrage about Bepop (also pictured here)?
>Winrate based balancing discussion
>>562076338>niggers try to parry the tower only to be flinged like a baseball
>>562075609GOD bebops put ebo shard on his uppercutit refreshes the hook btw
>>562076551>no you dont understand only the GOOD players I play against know to build decay/rapid recharge/EE, winrates dont matter because retards are playing the wrong build
Why does Bebop's hyper beam lifesteal % not appear next to it's other stats at level 3 like with uppercuts missing % heal, the 2nd uppercut is with the addition of healing tempo. Does the hyper beam not get increased healing with tempo or spirit lifesteal?
I'm done with work for today but might take a nap now so I can see the schizo in training during NA hours. I've missed his performance yesterday and even so many anons thought it was me. Puts cheerful tears in my eyes.Quick question to you guys: do you think Silverfags in here even play the game or are they just stinky furry larpers? I'm starting to believe it's the latter.>t.graves schizo (who also enjoys Geist now [still looking for the third main])
>Buy healbane>Buy curse>Buy slowing hex>Land a full CC combo on Shiv>Teammates CC him after>Apply all the above debuffs >Three people focus firing him>He takes 40% of his HP and then just dashes + alt fire bounces awayBalanced character btw
>>562076504They are annoying to play against Bepop isn't that bad with reactive barrier but still annoying
It seems we have caused some seethe, Shivbros...
>>562076671>High winrateThe hero is strong.>Low winrateThe masses don't know how to play them.
>>562075446Umm, Rude! That's my faithful wife!
>>562076708This might be the most embarrassing thing I have ever read, I hope your lying and this didnt really happen to you because LOL
>>562076924I've got a hot stake for her, if you know what I mean.
>>562076940what's it like being hardstock sub archon shitter
>>562076504
>>562076347This, but risky dangerous vampire sex
>>562067460>make Victor mortal finallyYay! >shiv back to being unkillableFuck.
Played Ivy for 3 days straight, made a build with:Tesla bullets (main source of spirit damage by bullets)and all cheap debuffs i could get: healbane, mystic slow, suppressor, spirit shredded bullets.. and then lean in ult-focused items as usual. Felt comfy, yet i still don't know if i'm doing this debuff-combo correctly or not. Didn't buy extended duration at all.
>>562077094Most people are bitching about knife shiv which is funnier because... buy dispell. Dispell gets so much fucking value nowadays.
>>562077159yeah it's op, its either getting a WORDING nerf or straight up changed
>>562077126That outfit is ugly.
Dispell should be 20 seconds and work on ult debuffslop
>>562076504if you put in perspective that you'd only win 5 more matches out of 100 with a middle tier hero you see how winrates don't matter much unless the dip below 40, and that's probably because he can't stun someone for his team or help steal mid boss and isn't useful other than pure damage and you could just pick haze or something for thatlook how much people started complaining about infernus and all they changed about him was 4 more DPS to his less optimal buildexcept holliday, her kit is just not good enough and I wouldn't want her to be buffed in numbers only either
>>562077159>Buy dispel>They just toss another knife because they have 500 charges on a 2 second cooldown
>>562077269>3 djin marks>4 shiv knives>5 LG amp daggers>dispells and walks away
>>562077159buy SILENCE WAVE OR DISARMING HEX I HATE THAT NIGGERS KEEP SHILLING THIS GARBAGE ITEM THAT HAS A 40 SECOND COOLDOWN WHEN ANY CHARARACTER WORTH THEIR SALT CAN REAPPLY THEIR DEBUFFS IN A PICOSECOND
>>562077226With how easy some debuffs are to apply, I'd like a lower CD on Dispel Magic. A lot of characters apply their shit super quickly, even considering (in some cases) they live or die by that mechanic.Maybe lower some of the item's other effects in return for a shorter CD?
>knife stacksdon't care dispelled>haze stacksdon't care dispelled>mirage stacksdon't care dispelled>Geist dagger stacks + life draindon't care dispelled>afterburndon't care dispelled>paige rootdon't care dispelled>every debuff item that isn't cursedon't care dispelled>afflictionFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKK
>>562077589>Used unstoppable because Affliction has a million year wind up>muh 6300 souls!!!and pocket is a creep
>>562077589your counterspell gro...
>seven goes afk for 30m>spends the next 7m inting>lose game
Am I... Invisible?
>doorman watching your stamina
>Abrams is literally a better version of Victor nowIceFraud...
>>562078035>now
>>562077795has the memory gone are you feeling numb
>Lane partner Shiv instantly leaves me the moment boxes spawn >I tell him wtf are you doing dude>He says lol Shiv sucks in lane that's why I'm ditching you to run around with the egg breaking boxes>I'm up against Haze and Paige and I can't sustain the lane by myself>He gets mad that I lose the guardian in 6 minutes and die to Haze ult because I got dove
>>562078035Victor doesn't have Skewer tho...
>>562078134>4 minute box runuh huh
>>562078035Trust the plan
>>562078237Well it's more like "he actually fucked off to gank other lanes" but still
>>562077494>>562077226>>562077159>>562077269>>562077407Are you guys really just instantly slamming the dispel key the moment you get hit with one shiv knife or mirage marks. The optimal stacks to dispel is 3.
>>562075609Sigma bebops buy withchmail + echo shard and put it on his uppercut to punch endlessly
let me guess graves is still opwhy do they refuse to straight up nerf chars they always need to give them a buff alongside
>>562078394le compensation buffs
>>562069439We nerf her obviously
cant wait for the next set of heroes to walk over the new cast and old to hear the same crying now but a new cast
>>562078394Graves gun build is not nearly as egregious as before as the tether nerf cuts ricochet damage in half.
>>562078248What's the plan?
>>562078338>>562077494 (Me)Not instantly, I'm usually on the other end of knives and I know Mirage's silly numbers game.Maybe my opinion is skewed from games where DoT/debuff characters get unreasonably strong quickly, but it's worth seeing how it goes if the active part of Dispel Magic gains power, while the passive portions get reduced as a trade-off.For all I know it could send some characters into the gutter, but it's still a """""test"""""" and the best time to experiment.
The only thing a guardian provides that matters is an easily accessible shop, and even then the secret shop is like a dash slide away anyway
>>562078035>nowAlways has been if you're not in shitlow, but the fact Abrams now has in kit Infuser when Victor went through a -30% healcut despite having 0 lifesteal in his kit, and then lost the one part of his kit that made him work, is especially egregious.
>>562078641Every single /dlg/ take is so retarded. Not even reddit is this retarded. "Secret shop is just as safe and accessible as the shop a dash-jump away from your walker"
Nothing is more satisfying than watching victards play victim after the justified nerfs (that they bragged were never ever coming BTW lol)
>small furry thing>tagalong abilityabsolutely fucking hated kit wise by everyonelmao
>>562078843Tell me where did victor touch you
>>562078843has his nerf allowed you to rank up out of emissary yet?
>>562078814Your walker provides less protection than your guardian, at least the guardian sometimes focus fires the enemy >b-but the stomprequires less effort to bait out the stomp and gives you a longer window than parrying the guardian
>>562069281>What's the point of ParadoxIt's for people with a masked woman fetish
>>562078926>>562078925>victor nerfs>graves nerfsthis has been a really bad week for you hasnt it, so I cant really blame you for emotionally lashing out
>>562078881>what if yuumi could push lanes while attached to someone on the other side of the map
>>562079102its actually quite incredible how much this game raped you
>>562075234why are you saying “you” like you’re fantasizing about other men doing this to your imaginary waifu you faggot cocksucker cuck
EU hours are miserable itt
>>562079102What Graves has to do with anything
>win 2>rankup>lose 1>rankdownebin
It's rather clear that the people doing the balance work aren't talking to each other. There's no other justifiable reason to literally give Abrams a better version of Victor's Aura while at the same time nuking Victor's Aura. Clearly the people doing the balance work are strongly siloed.
>>562078129What do you mean?
>>562078881we need a sexy cat hero like yuumi but instead of support slop she's a broolkino hero
I just removed the game from my account. It's just not fun anymore.> Seventh game in a row> Four supports on my team> Get cancer lane against Drifter and Doorman> Paige dies six times in five minutes> They have a shrine in under ten minutes because no one comes to help and there's fuck all I can do against 6-second stun/10 second blind with no cooldownsHow have they not fixed this shit after two years? How have they not put in a hard support limit, ensured that two supports do not get the same lane against two towerdivers? How have they not realized that ults with a <1 minute CD that disable for upwards of 5 seconds are bullshit and un-fun to play against? Why do they keep focusing on adding new characters when all but one or two of them are non-viable?
>>562078843There's still people who bitch about him for some reason.>"ERM IF HE BUYS EVERY DEBUFF RES IN THE GAME HE'S GOT .1 SECOND CURSE ON 2 KEY NOW SO OP" Nevermind the fact that no fucking build ever has him take debuff res items except to rarely buy unstop or spellbreaker. His greatest counter item (inhib) is extremely easy to maintain on him as he can't just cleanse it instantly.
Weird how Abrams doesnt have 2+ free cleanses in his kit and he gets along vs counter items just fine, but for other heros that is unplayable
>>562077950do they actually do this? i always have enough to get out when they ult me it feels like they just do it randomly or maybe doorniggers just really hate me
Split shot ricochet Graves still works
>>562079558>I just removed the game from my account.LMAOOOOKWAB>>562079664Muslim Yamato
>>562079664>watching Graves players >they're still all building gunfor the love of God nerf her M1 but for real this time
>>562079558All of the good of deadlock was an accident + new game excuses
when we getting our extraction shooter game mode?
>>562079781Literally just need to make her aim her weapon.
Hero banning and its consequences have been disastrous to this game's matchmaking.Something about the way they implemented that feature has absolutely ruined their matchmaker, and they have failed to fix it since.
just make graves m1 like meis m1
>>562080007they will hire away Arc Raiders lead dev soon trust
>>562080127>aislop raiderseeeeEEYUCK!
we need a proper cat girl NOW
>>562079558>supportsnot a thing in this gane specially in shitter ranks (your rank)>B-BUTyou're just bad and coping
Reposting my request for help on drifter, but my issue is I seem to do nothing for 30 minutes except die in each fight I take, group or solo, then I slaughter everyone. How do I stop sucking early?
im tired of pretending that Seeker isnt the best rank with the best and smartest players
>>562080370shitlowGOD
Initiate - Archon: ShittersOracle: Shitters who kind of understand the general idea of the game but can't execute any of itPhantom: Shitters who can do the easy shit, sometimesAscendant: Shitters who can do the easy shitEternus 1-5: Ok playersEternus 6: Actually good players
>>562080452i'm ascendant 6
>Get put against this team comp>Holiday player on my team who wasted every ult has the gall to ask why I'm madI'm begging you yoshi please give me draft
>>562080391buy better items and aim better
>>562068069I prefer the double tap.
>>562080607Wrong.Initiate -> Alchemist: Playing Overwatch Arcanist -> Emissary: Playing Deadlock badlyArchon -> Phantom: Playing DeadlockAscendant -> Eternus 5: Playing Deadlock well.Eternus 6: Playing GunZ.
>>562081220this is wrong because I'm in ascendant and Im playing deadlock badly
>>562081220This is wrong because im in Seeker and im playing Deadlock goodly
>>562080391roam extremely early. play him like a haze. learn rotations. in lane, use mark to tele off a camp denizen to do a very quick rotation to the next lane over; there's several lineups that some schmovement youtubers have videos on. if you can leave lane with at least 6 bloodscent stacks, you can easily snowball it into midgame.also, your ult is easily counterspelled, so if you can bait parry out with rend THEN ult, you can usually get a free kill on most heroes. qsr/surge of power is decent on him for rend because of spirit scaling on rend, so don't ignore spirit spike. i play him with elephant rounds + surge as core mid items and just permanently split push while invading jungle. sometimes i even leave enemy sinner's intentionally up to bait someone into going for it so i can go after them, since bloodscent will tell me if someone is alone and going for sinner's before they even start hitting it.also, never buy shadow weave, it's bad, don't get baited.
>>562081280No, you're attempting to play GunZ and playing Deadlock well instead.E6 players aren't playing Deadlock. They're compulsively abusing every movement glitch and exploit to fly around the map at Mach 10. That's GunZ.
>>562080391>How do I stop sucking early?Only start ganking/roaming once you hit your powerspike. For me, it's when I have Kinetic Dash + Close Quarters + Slowing Bullets, you can also buy stalker/opening rounds if you think you're still lacking damage. If your ganks are going great, buy Veil Walker.
>>562081459>qsr/surge of power is decent on him for rendmeme
I am so fucking sick of laning into apollo this nigger is not okay. It will never be okay that you have infinite mobility + nukes + escapes on 10s cds. fuck this braindead nigger character to death.
>>562078394>>562078435are you retarded?the graves change was a strict nerf +4s on jar moved from T2 to T3jar T3 apply essence theft moved to essence theft T3Multi target essence theft completely removedThis is worse than straight up removing T3 essence theft with no other change
I used to play in the middle of the night at shit hours and I think my games were way higher quality. I'm playing normal hours now and it's just straight losses and teams who have no fucking clue what they're doing. night games are all counter spells and silence wave and good coordinationday games are>Ivy went to the... uh... Greenwich lane?and Ivy isn't in the match at all
>>562080271Calico???
>>562082083feel free to leave damage on the table, not my problem
Is the one who showed the Spirit Silver build here right now? Okay let's be clear first. I'm new. Started like a month ago. So basically I am at the bottom of the barrel. Like Alchemist 1. I've been trying Silver for a while and for the life of me I can't activate her Ult fast enough with her regular build. Doesn't help that I feel like I suck at it. But with the Spirit Build for some reason I can do shit a whole lot more. When you land the Bola it almost insta activates ult as well which surprises enemies and then when you press 3 the AOE does fuckton of damage because of Spirit. This build seems to work really well at lower levels. Considering I've played 6 games with it and I haven't lost yet with it.
I will keep playing Victor and Yoshit can't stop me!
This is the first match where the Kinetic Carbine build worked...its all coming together
Hollidaychads, how do I build to get out of initiate 2
>>562077126that vampire is sexy
i like Calico unironically and i think she's alright, just need a little model polish. Yes i like her being black catwoman assassin in velvet clothes and big round glasses with sphynx on the shoulder.
>>562082691quite the opposite.rend is dps loss outside of the laning phase
>>562083008Become a schmoovemnt god, learn her ult combo, then realize that's her kit is broken in a bad way and she is just bad in her current state. Climb to Ascendant with Paradox+Holliday roster, stop there, rethink your life choices, wait for rework.
>Haze ults>Pop metal skin>I still die in 0.5s?
>>562083008Don't do any of this nonsense >>562083398Just spam barrels from the air using your jumppad, push waves, harassAlso melee your barrels right after using them
>>562083476She had Capacitor.
>>562082947Does spirit burn proc off of a mystic + kinetic shot?
>>562083398>Climb to Ascendant with Paradox+Holliday rosterWhat if I want to one trick>she is just bad in her current stateDont care, i got to GM on marvel rivals one tricking black widow. Holliday is cutr and I will go insane learning to play her good. Also im still a newbie fag so I don't think I need to worry about meta now>schoovement godI always get stam mastery, anythimg else i should consider?>>562083556I can usually stomp with barrels but i feel like i get weak later in the game, how should i build for barrels?
metal skin for spirit damage when
>>562083678Ye
what's the counter to focus lense haze?
>>562083759Spirit + Rapid Recharge Max Barrels asap gives you five barrels remember like the anon said to melee them first before hitting them a good combo you can do is jump pad slam barrel down and then land at the same time the barrel explodes Spirit Burn is a great item don't fall into the Mystic Expansion trap it BaRELY increases the range other than that hit your barrels get boundless spirit + tankbuster + surge of power on em always get RR and thats it really for barrels that is
This is it I thinkThis is the game to cement my hero this game is auto afk. If the deadlock tracking websites had that feature where you could see a winrate playing with a certain hero on YOUR team I think this literal piece of shit would be under 30% in months. Not a soul that plays this ugly grandma knows how to snowball on him or tries to. Never uses their mics. And I have this dumb cunt as my avoided hero and somehow he always sneaks through. I'd give my left nut for 2 minute longer queues if it means I'd never have to play with him.
>release "balance" patch>playerbase craters, cant even get to 100k on weekends anymorekek, when are they going to revert this shit patch?
>>562084092>a single green not one orangebased all in spirit chad
>>562084331Patch has nothing to do with itThe player #s cratered because the game is too hard, just like all the other times the playercount went up and then cratered
Playing Holliday is a humiliation ritual >>562084331kek which one
>>562084348Every time I see some niggroid GT go "hybrid" they immediatelly lose. Oranges are not worth it unless you go all in.
>>562084392It was +90-100k+ for almost 2 months. Now we're at low points of 75k immediately after the patch.
>>562084671This just looks like it's been slowly trending down from the last batch of heroes
>most recent match had 6 level 0 accounts with nightshift movement on the enemy team and 2 on my team>literally 8 of the 12 people in my Emmisary lobby were smurfsIs the matchmaker really that bad above Oracle that these faggots are literally ALL smurfing?!
>>562084873yes
>>562084392>Patch has nothing to do with itI've been playing a LOT less because they keep nerfing Silver, not only is she weaker but she's less fun
>>562084613>anecdotal with this logic full spirit gt is bad because that guy build it and has shit winrate
>>562084916Could you faggots please not bring your literal ass cancer down to my Emmisary lobbies?
>>562083085>rend is a dps loss outside of laningqsr gives it a free reload off use, and surge gives you 20% firerate on use. both do more than just provide spirit power/damage to rend. you do you, but again, you're objectively leaving damage and value on the table, and fighting that just makes you look retarded. you're welcome to offer alternatives, but i fully expect you to say "opening rounds" like a retard.
>>562084821>an immediate drop of 10k is "slowly" trending down
is resto shot the best sustain option for drifter in lane now? I get raped since I cant abuse lifestrike anymore
Hm... yes.I love it when people quit before 10 minutes two times in a row when I finally have time to play.
>>562084420>Playing Holliday is a humiliation ritual Since the march 6 patch, playing any hero below A tier is a humiliation ritual and a throw pick. You have to metaslave now or you lose. Great game design, Yoshi. Half of the heroes are now just straight up irrelevant. What the fuck were they thinking? Thid might be the worst state this game has ever been. What's funny is, most changes after March 6 are reverting that patch basically, so they know they fucked up. Most of heroes I usually played now might as well not exist because they just can't keep up, and it's been like this for a whole month.
Can someone explain the meaning behind Celeste's tattoos?
While you spent time screaming on the mic and typing in chat I've had my comms muted.
>>562085952Sounds like lowshit shitlow copium, not gonna sugarcoat it broski.
genius matchmaking yoshi!if you matchfix so that 50% of the games are unlosable and the other 50% are unwinnable then everything will have 50% winrate! balancing solved!no need to worry about anything being overpowered anymore! you either automatically win or automatically lose, the game practically plays itself, such innovative player experience!
I feel like Rem is strong as fuck but I keep losing as him.I was jannying lanes, trying to deny enemy sinners famr where possible. That fell through mid and late game though cause we were getting raped so wandering out of the base to fuck with their jungle became not really a viable activity.Spammed actives to try and shut down the enemy although it wasn't doing much honestly.Most of my Rem games go something like this, lanes are pushed, actives are spammed, but I don't seem to make enough impact and we lose.
>>562086026Based
>>562086024troon devs trasy self insert
how many characters need to have "no more games" line?
>>562086024Troon stamps.
>>562086024lucky shot on her belly and then some random shitty carnival scribbles all over
>>562086183Gun Rem
>>562086026>I make a bad play>watch two mics symbols appear immediately>can't hear a word of it because I have VC at 0feels good man
>game has a MASSIVE issue with smurfs, people being boosted, intentional feeders>you get report banned if you actually report each instanceLMAO
>>562086024meaning?she just felt like doing themshe's a woman
>>562085092>just invest 4800 souls into wasting your slots bromake some sense. that would only be viable in your piss low matches where games are 1 hour minimum
>>562082947Why do you do this to yourself?
>>562086183>haze didnt buy unstoppunluck gg go next
>>562086183Have you considered buying extra spirit for your spirit character?
>>562086390>a womanThat's a loose use of this term.
>>562086134yeah it's actually so fucking blatant they're just engagement matching people.
>>562083084I like her too and don't really get all the complaints about the design.She looks like the unpleasant new money bitch she is. That's perfect.
>>562086024Pic related, unironically. I still can't believe this was on the front page of Deadlock subreddit and people were agreeing with it, the Troon and Yoshi and yoshitroon fatigue is real
New Player here.Who is the Grace Ashcroft of Deadlock?Who is the Leon?
>>562086597bwo it's totally not a boosted account don't worry about it!!
>>562086652PaigeInfernus by personality/aura, Venator by being a white guy m1gger
>>562086481I thought my money was more worthwhile making curse and disarm longer lasting with lower cooldown, but yeah maybe I shoulda.Until boundless the bonus spirit items feel a bit shit.
>>562086024they mean she's BBC only
>>562086772good morning saar
>>562086652why do you post this every thread?
>>562083084>>562086558she just needs a proper hairdo
>>562086597The game will never downrank this person btw.
>>562086928If she had better hair she'd be way less ugly looking.It'd also be nice if she wasn't horribly annoying to play against.
>>562086024>covered in Irish tattoos>koney island accentHuh...
>>562086768You don't need spirit resilience at all. If you're caught your dick out you already failed your character. Guardian Ward gives you more survival than it and can be cast on others too.
After what feels like a hundred games I finally climbed out of ritualist, I don't know why that rank specifically took so many games to climb out from.
Can Valve stop fucking around before going to Hawaii?
>>562083084I don't mind her being black or even the hair, but I wish the clothes and general shape was a bit more unique and I fucking beg Valve to get rid of the prosthetic fetish they have. So many people are missing their hands in this game. The round glasses with the little bars that make it look like she's doing a retarded OwO face are great, as is the cat. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they got rid of the black woman and kept the cat, the cat is unironically the biggest highlight of playing Calico. It's animations both on her back and standalone are fucking great.
would you buy deadlock if it was a paid game
>>562086992cant have the queue times getting longer
>>562087454now yes, before I played it not a chance
>>562086992I've been trying to downrank for past month (not to smurf, mind you, I genuinely just suck cock and it's not very fun to feed every match against people who have already perfected the movement, macro and micro) and I'm barely one rank below where I was when I started, and not even a full rank.I think I have like 30% win rate and it keeps ranking me up every time I win even once but it takes multiple games to lose a rank.
>>562086134>>562086371These have been the issues with Counter-Strike and DOTA2 for a decade now, I don't see any reason they will change those in Deadlock. This is just how Valve operates: they don't give a fuck. People never discuss that the flipside of their massive success is that they are too big to fail. So they can make massive mistakes that would get any other developer shitted on shut down. But because they have a massive cushion/parachute in the form of Steam, they can do whatever and still feel fine and not realize they're doing something wrong.
>>562080607>Eternus 1-5: Ok players>Eternus 6: Actually good playersJust wrong, a lot of eternoids are boosted and some are cheating. Take this nigfernus for instance, supposedly e6 according to himself(he makes sure to say it every game) get him on my games way too often and this retarded nigger feeds in lane 90% of the time and just afk farms for the most part, also always playing the current meta slave's choice. He shit talks the team and says he will carry every single game, almost ad-nauseam reapting the same bragging about his e6 ranks. He just sucks cock and plays stat checks heroes.
>>562086024tattooed girls used to be an attraction on freakshows
>>562087250Holy fawrk. Announcement soon
>>562080607>Yes I'm oracle 1. How could you tell?
>>562087454Yes, simply because it would filter thirdworlders, shitters, and some smurfs, cheaters. I know they won't do that but I with they did.
>>562086992>>562087574It's virtually impossible to rank down in this game, you go down one division and the game puts crayon eating tards on the enemy team that you could win against with your monitor off
>>562082695I'm here anon, it will just take a while for people to realize spirit silver is just better than gun. It's not even that spirit silver is particularly good, it's just that she can do her role bettter with it. The builds works really well at assendant+ and against eternoids too. You just have to play more like a bursty assasin that is tankier in ult form.
>>562087454Depends on the price. But, now yes. Probably no before I'd actually played it.It looked way less interesting than it turned out to be.
>>562087250>>562087634>"Hi everyone, it's Yoshi from Deadlock! We're going to Hawaii next week, but before we do, we would like to deliver Other massive Silver nerf. I know you love those! Have fun!"
>>562087991He would never do something so based
>>562087991based, silvertroons deserve worse
>>562086134I wish I could directly plug Statlocker into the game to see what ranks everyone is. I remember when 15 years ago people started using mods to view everyone's MMR in World of Tanks (different times, don't judge me) and forced 50% became so fucking obvious even the slimy Belarussian scammer developers had to admit it.
>>562086134The EOMM is ready to go before the game even has monetization, brilliant
>>562067460> another Graves nerf, because not having to aim somehow triggers m1ggers to death (as if it was fucking hard)I seriously don't get it: her range and mobility sucked ass, and it was easy to deal with as long as you let her destroy the lain without resistance...I don't even play her, and her pick numbers and winrates showed she was too good, but its fucking sad that we can't have more creativity in character design without everyone throwing a fit (not like characters like Victor require any skill besides pressing W, and the fucker had 60WR for how many weeks?).
>>562080271many say this meow
>>562082607shes too competenta true cat girl needs to be graceful but a little stupid
>>562080271>>562088553why all cat girls these days are black?I am not complaining but I see a pattern here...
>>562088542I don't get it either. She's an areas controller, if she charges at you just retreat and disarm her.
>>562088789black cats are a high tier cat
>>562083008Just build spirit and learn to land your shit.Though I find it easier to climb with characters that just do damage. To make the most out of Holliday your team has to focus down the target and that is exactly guaranteed.
>>562088707>shes too competentNigga half the crew grills her for being incompetent. Just because the character is currently buffed as fuck doesn't mean they aren't a retard in lore.
>>562071920
>>562087594>somemore like "most"
>>562089389shes a master assassin that's botched one job vs frog they/themgger
>>562078203I really hate ability and item icons in Dota 2 and League of Legends. They are barely discernable flashy magic mess. Deadlock is so much better in this regard.
>>56206876420 second duration10 second cooldown
bratty vampire sugar mommy
>>562085173I believe that's called a Monday.
>>562086405Do what the game went great
When is venator getting gutted I'm sick of seeing this guy every game.
How come no one whined about matchmaking (AKA playing against people who are more skilled than you) when we were all playing old Source games on dedicated servers? Have we become pussies?
>>562086397>that would be viable in your pisslow matchesfucking how? spirit falls off anyway, you're buying it for early damage tempo and firerate. unironically kys. you obviously have zero clue how investments and timing work in this game, and not buying ANY spirit items on him for midgame, let alone items that already of synergy on him, when his rend has 1.8x scaling is fatherless behavior. if anything, you're the one thinking you can just dump shit tons of souls into gun items for 40 minutes straight thinking you can carry the game when your kills could have been easier pre-25min and providing you stacks if you just put 1/8th of your total souls into items that work.
>enemy whiffs parry>parry animation ends>melee them>get parried anywayFIX THIS FUCKING RETARDED SHIT ITS BAD ENOUGH THAT PARRIES EXIST WHY THE FUCK DO THEY LAST LONGER THAN THE FUCKING ANIMATION
>>562089816He is the only honest and well balanced character in the game, why would they gut him
>>562069124fentmore
>>562089878Sorry, chilling in Hawaii right now, can you wait a month or two?
Walkers shouldn't be parryable for fucks sakes they barely even do damage and are made out of paper
>>562089878I never noticed how bad this was until I started playing Abrams>fake out>they parry>I wait until the parry shields fade>heavy melee>it still parrys me
>>562090096>do no damage>offer no protection>can click 1 button and ignore guardian>can walk into circle and then back for 1 second to ignore walker>made of paper>can destroy both shrines and drop patron while all base guardians are still up
>>562089775In a desperate need of correction
You can't make me play standard you can't make me
>>562090096>Walkers shouldn't be parryableYou can what. What part is parryable?
>>562089878I was the one who's parry animation ended and still got a parry just barely in the guardian range.get fucked lash you nigger that was a good play and you should've won but alas.
>>562090513counterspell can parry the stomp to deal reduced damage and proc the heal + spirit power. still stuns you though. extremely situational
>>562090513
>>562089826It's because your rank is supposed to indicate an approximate level of skill and it doesn't because faggots abuse the system by like 6 stacking into ascendant and then shitting up matches solo. Or they buy accounts. It's just dog shit having a team mate who is supposed to have a high skill level and he's actually just alchemist level. But here he is in your eternus 4 game because someone boosted him to ASC 5.
I don't buy green items. Don't believe in it.
>>562090172>Max out Abrams charge>Put duration extender on it for equal measure>Charge and punch a Mirage>He doesn't have debuff reducer or anything >He somehow parries my punch and then instantly kills me with his stupid Arab Jihad mark
>>562089838>you obviously have zero clue how investments and timing work in this gamevery ironic considering you don't understand how that's a waste of souls
I find supporting fun when I'm on decent teams. It's satisfying pressing a chain of buttons that turn a fight because you used them well. But my god does it become super unfun real fucking quick when you get overwatch players on your team. Oh, you have stamina mastery and you just juked 3 people around for 30s? No ones helping you. On a decent team, these shitters would've been punished 10s into that chase. But nah, you wind up dying too because your team is that absent. It's like they sit around waiting for kills to be handed to them on a silver platter and want to take ZERO risks. So they follow up on nothing and intercept nothing unless it's a literal 6v1. The most bizarre part about overwatch players is that they have this massive chip on their shoulder when it comes to people in support roles. Like they've never played a MOBA before in their life and disrespect the fuck out of you for daring to play a role other than m1. Like I can't for a second imagine someone being like "classic [support hero]" in a game of DOTA and trying to deride the entire role. It's like a part of our community despises CC, healing, debuffs, buffs. What the fuck has drawn them to this game then? Is their game that stale that they're willing to subject themselves to one they fundamentally despise?
Guardians should be stronger. More consistant with their targetting. Not easily parryable.The shop needs to be a bit safer, some characters can really easily fire into the shop and zone people out from using it safely.Walkers need to not fall over to a single stacked minion wave, be more consistent with their attacks. The big stun is easy to bait out and then just rape whoever is trying to hide under it. But even then walkers regularly just decide to not stun at all when people go under them.Why are they called walkers when all they do is stand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K74gSVdqRa4
Every single thing the enemy does to your guardians and walkers, you can do to theirs. It's more fun this way. I don't want to play tower defense.
>>562091716This track gives me so much dopamine it's unreal.
>>562091686Sorry, I'm in Hawaii right now. I'll consider reading your feedback in a month!
>open his stream>IM ETERNUS 6 RIGHT RIGHT THESE GUYS ON MY TEAM ARE BA- jesus christ get some new material man
The jungle should have longer respawn times to incentivize people actually playing lanes and objectives and not farmville
>>562091686Geist being able to toss a rape missile into my shop from the other side of lane is very gay aids I think
Why did they release a patch just to buff graves?
>team mates feed apollo in lane>you will never actually kill him because riposte is on a 11s CD and teleports him up roofs even when you have him hexed>sticks a 3200 counterspell alongside healbane to get his 4800 vitality>proceeds to rape you with 10s CD burst abilities with infinite mobilitywonderful. when is this dishonest piece of shit getting nerfed? so many boosted retards right now abusing the fuck out of him. he's braindead.
>>562092094Some guy said it was a nerf last thread lmfao
>>562092094don't worry, next 300mb patch will just be abrams + celeste buffs
>>562091912Is this really true? Surely they will drop a patch this Wednesday right
>>562091686walkers should have an aura surrounding them that reduces enemy move/dash speed passively. this in turn would make it easier for it to land the stomp from diving retards.
>>562087843I have no idea on higher levels considering I have not seen any videos about it. But the way I play her with it is just to make sure I land those Bolas and Wolf 3. They get really surprised with the damage and immediately try to run so my team suddenly sees that and goes in. Unlike the normal build where unless you're damn good at hitting shots, it feels like you're poking too much and takes a while for the transformation to happen unless you hit absolutely everything.
>>562091686Walkers should be strong but guardians are fine as they are healthwise, though I think they shouldn't be parryable
>Hey Yoshi the state of the game's balance is a mess, what should we do?>Yoshi: send 1gb to gravesWow it's just like real life
>>562092508who would you say are the worst offenders? I think mirage and apollo rn
>>562091536bait. again, kys
finally got to use this niche escape tech with the vent all the way near the back camps
>>562092702Roofs should zap you for way more
>>562091854yeah archmother is auraless compared to HK
>>562092458Don't forget your kick and wolf leap do a very high amount of damage as well. Leap's DoT is surprisingly good damage and it's funnier when it ticks with toxic making people panic. One thing good about this build in late game fights, is that you are actually able to do long range trades, by hitting mystic shot and bolas you easily chunk out a lot of health from 2-3 heroes (you will proc wolf but it's kinda worthless late game anyway).
Sell game to Riot now!
da troobadoh aint got nuffin on meh!
>>562092012Trying to go to store and just being endlessly banged in the head by Vindicta is particularly annoying ot me.
>>562092128People complain about Graves being easy but Apollo is no joke the easiest safest hero in the game, I don't think I've ever seen an Apollo feed because his entire kit doubles as an escape tool.
>>562092779it should just instakill you tbqh
>>562093131i get a lot of apollos that feed
>>562092478Health on guardians is fine, they just have fucked up targetting, parrying them is too good and it feels like their damage falls off a bit quickly but maybe that's because of the parry and fucked targetting.
>swap someone into walker>it doesnt stomp and they just walk out it doesnt even flame themseriously
Dynamo's ult should spin people.
>>562093705only thing I have seen consistently stomp someone is doorman combo, never not been stomped the millisecond I am under walker when it happens to me
so is graves dead now? can i no longer autopilot m1 for free wins?
>>562093705>Go under enemy walker>It instantly stomps>Enemy dives me under my walker>It doesn't stomp
Dynamo ult should absorb people into dynamo to instantly kill them, dynamo increases his model size by +1 for every hero killed this way
Yoshi needs to buff Silver's Wolf form. Seriously.
>>562093901and his head hitbox gets smaller every time too
>>562093901Also he should burp every time he absorbs a hero
Which one of these is better for roaming as Drifter?
>>562094128trophy hunter
>>562089554>I don't know, the point is word on the street is that you do sloppy work.
>>562093901He specifically needs to have his belly get slightly bigger for every kill, Mo should also have this mechanic
>>562091686>>562092478>>562093240The main issue is that guardian genuinely offers no security against anyone that knows how to dive in. Compare the risk of tower diving early game in something like LoL or Smite to Deadlock. A good player in those will be able to dive depending on their character and unlocked abilities, so you can essentially know the second game starts if the person you are laning against even has the ability to tower dive. Meanwhile in deadlock anyone can dash jump in, parry guardian and rape you in the face for maybe 200 damage from the damn thing. Theres also the fact that its trivial to cut off the path from guardian to walker completely safely due to the side paths taking 3 seconds to cross, where trying to flank towers through jungle takes a long time in other mobas. So you arent safe under guardian, and arent safe retreating from guardian to walker. Honestly they should just remove the ability to parry them, so that if you want to tower dive you have to skirt its melee distance.
>>562087594>>562089406Here's the eternoid 9 minutes in. I spectated his game and he just keeps tarding into the guardian to parry and dash after applying burn. Almost comes out on a positive trade too despite having shit accuracy. Some characters just require so little effort, it easily explains how some inbreds get to e6.
>>562093705>>562093815I think it's because usually when doorman swaps them into walker they pretty much teleport into the actual stomp circle, whereas bebop hook, abrams charge or paradox swap actually moves them so their AI goes "ENEMY HAS ENTERED BEAM RANGE ACTIVATING BEA-ENEMY HAS ENTERED FIREBALL RANGE ACTIVATING FIREBA-ENEMY HAS ENTERED HAS ENTERED STOMP RANGE-" That's my theory at least.
>>562094573And lose all the OW/rivalniggers with cosmetic economy planned? No chance
>>562094573The problem is parrying disabling the towers attack.In dota you can only dive towers early if your creepwave is there with you to soak the aggro. In deadlock any fuckwit can just turn the tower off at will
metro saying graves should never be good cause u put 0 effort into the game by playing her keknot entirely wrong
>>562086226Graves, as in Yoshi needs to say "no more games" and delete her from the game.
>>562093719I remember when they made that change to Enigma in dota.
>>562095032Well it is metro af.... Actually I agree with him for once.
>>562095032
>>562094634infernus' burn is a double edge knife, it applies laughably fast from up close but it reaches a point you can't shoot and reload fast enough to apply it before the debuff running out if you're far enough, I honestly think they want him to be a caster already
I report every "person" that parries me.Parries should not exist in this game and if you use them you are bug abusing.
>>562095279this + they are scripting
>>562094573There's enough characters that can rape you from outside the guardians range as well. Even removing the parry wouldn't leave you safe from geist bombs, doorman bells, vindicta just shooting you etc.I'm not really a fan of this veil right here, it makes it so easy to stop a fallback and pressure people being defensive under guardian from a weird angle without much commitment.The smaller side tunnel is much more out of the way and an actual commitment.The inverse side is better, the main path to the walker is still really open and going around church lets you pressure the back or try to cut off. But there's the side route with the wall which lets you get a fairly covered escape and has several veils so if you fall back smartly and they're not right on your ass escaping isn't bad.
>silvertranny gets the /v/ thread deletedGreat
>>562094128Veil Walker if you know how to use it. Fortitude if the rest of the lobby is retarded.
>>562095279i can tell you're pisslow cause ur complaining about a literal press to use mechanic and have never played against an air strafer which is an actual exploit, you never hit those guys and they traverse the map in seconds, but i think you need to be emissary + to encounter em
>>562095032Celeste autoaim is worse and I will die on this hill. Graves has to vaguely intend what she's doing and be close. Celeste's shots will just accidentally handbang someone 20 times in a row from the opposite tower.
>>562095279Shut up Billy
>>562095387>ImplyingThe janny was obviously mad that a on-topic thread was present. No vidya allowed on the vidya board.
>>562095437Valve is a retarded company that will just label it a feature if it takes them more than 15 minutes to fix it no matter how counterintuitive or game-warping it is.
>Walk up to someone point blank>Start reloading>They parry>Free punchesevery time
>>562095581any kinda nerf to movement makes the movementtrannies seethe and froth at the mouth and they're scared they'll suicide bomb valve HQ over it
>>562095437There's enough smurfs I've seen full schizomovement trannies in initiate. Most obvious clue is when they actually buy counterspell and land it very consistently while flying across the map at mach 5.
>>562095387>>562095569Sorry, we need 50 million culture war outrage threads
>>562095437Parries should not exist in this game, keep crying about it pisslow retard. You're not good because you can complete a quicktime event 25% of the time and get your welfare kill.
>>562095279Parryschizo, there are abilities with melee scaling that proc melee items, it's a safe way to melee most of the time so just main them>>562095528Used to have infinite range too, iirc>>562092180>>562092094How is it a buff exactly?
>>562096116the melee system is half the fun of laning, just don't melee if u dont wanna risk being parried initiate bro
so i see that dynamo has rised up into the mid to high 50's for winrate. is this because of the health investment changes. the fucker seems ultra tanky now
>>562095680she cutealso i hope those new animations some faggots on xitter made for vindicta never make it into the game they are awful especially the walking ones
>>562095437>never played against an air strafer which is an actual exploit, you never hit those guys and they traverse the map in seconds, but i think you need to be emissarySlowing hex and anvil, or better yet run after them using the same tech retard
>>562096318Parries make the melee system unfun and nonviable. Anyone that defends parries are boosted trash that belong in initiate. You're not good because the game gives you free kills.
>>5620964252 more bullets
>>562096536I won't learn air strafing cause i'm not a tranny, sorry xis
>>562095387Female heroes invariably have the worst, most insufferable fans
It is impossible for me to consider the irish as human beings
>>562096565>nno u l2p nigga
>>562096536>You have a problem with this exploit?>Bro just use it yourself whats the problemRemove cornerboosts.Remove edgeboosts.Remove IAD. Or buff standard dashes to function the same.Make diagonal dashes the same distance as orthogonal dashes.Fix the zipline so your physics don't change based on what button you press to get off of it.
>normal>Haze 56.62%>Dynamo 56.12%>eternus>Kelvin 58.47%>Seven 56.93%Where are the posts crying about WR?
who wins, silver or a rope?
>>562096565We initiateGODS don't know parrying is even a thing, though
>>562096930This is an OP hero btw
>>562096918All 4 of those heroes deserve severe nerfs
>>562096930average silver player
still brokenwho can stop darcy's dominance
>>562096918they only care about ruining victor
>>562096918Sorry now that the hero Redditors were crying about got nerfed winrate doesn't matter anymore, we decide on a hero's strength based on what high level players have to say and the general playerbase sentiment.
>>562096918No one cares that Seven (7) is OP
>>562096730Venatorbros???? Our response?!>>562096879>Remove>Fix>MakeI'm not yoshi, post your retarded ideas on the forums if you want them to implement them in the game, though i wouldn't hold my breath desu with you
>>562097246based
>>562096918I complain about Dynamo every fucking thread. I also complain about Haze ult every fucking thread, doesn't fit her character remove that shit.Seven has an honest kit so he doesn't feel as bad to lose to, but his numbers are clearly a bit overtuned.All hybrid M1ggers should get a bit of a hit over the head though, AKA every M1gger because of toxic bullets. I'd rather toxic get nerfed first, possible a few other things and see how shit shakes out first before tackling him seriously.Kelvin has a neat kit and he works best against M1ggers as he nukes their firerate really easily and constantly, thats likely why he's so high right now. His numbers probably just need a little tuning.
Nude Abrams mod has made me an actively worse player because I keep getting distracted by his fat flopping hogWhat should I do?
will towers ever not be shit
>>562097369EE nerf needed
>>562097457Unbind your parry key and pray that Abrams is on the enemy team
>>562097237>dodging eternus and posting about ascendant instead >ignoring the glaring dyanmoYou're not subtle statisticsfag
>>562097457Transition to male.Otherwise: uninstall the mod, sis.
Mo & Skill fall of so hard in late that it kills all my enjoyment
>>562097587i mean the eternus stats are pretty good toobut eternus doesn't have enough players and sample size for proper data imo, its massively skewed by 1 tricks etcimo ascendant + is what u should look at for high elo, ritualist for low, then everything else in between
Ivy did not get changed btw, maybe sample size isnt a meme
>>562096918Man fuck dynamo. Bullshit no skill hero that instantly wins the game after 25 minutes because he pressed 4. Funnily enough its the same for Haze and Seven.
>>562097525This as well.
>>562097767oh and he gets a lanewide stomp that is impossible to miss and does more damage and displacement than holliday barrel
>kelvin spends the entire game looking for brawls and diving deep into the enemy jungle>at the very end, we have to contest the rejuv or they simply end>kelvin decides this was the one fight we don't need to take and calls everyone else to pull back, leaving vindicta and me alone in the pit>instead of defending, they go back to mid and brawl 4v6 against rejuvWhat causes this level of retardation?
>>562097369>ctrl f graves 65>ctrl f dynamo 6>ctrl f graves 19I'll believe you but the rest of the thread is larping faggots
>>562068419>your lane partner gets the souls you're missingWell the argument started with "If the worst player removed themselves from the game, his team's chances might improve", so saying something like this only helps prove that pointSomeone useless eating farm, feeding, dropping bags, is probably more detrimental than helpful.
>>562096930Oh no no no no wolfpack sisters... they're discovering our counter
>>562096930iktf...
>>562098103>graves was number 1 until less than 24 hours ago>people complaining about the nerf>people celebrating the nerf>people arguing whether it is a nerf or notYou are a retard
>>562097731It's less than 500 matches involving Ivy in the last 24 hours.The 24 hour winrates are too small a sample size and too heavily influencible by a small number of players maining a hero well.If you expand to the patch overall instead of 24 hours she's at like 51.7% winrate in Eternus+, with a sample size over 2000. Way more statistically relevant.Although being able to see 'unique players' and potentially filter out the higher/lower outliers would also help a full analyses. But I don't think that level of autism is required for shitflinging at heroes you don't like on /dlg/.Ivy should have a base melee resistance cause she's made of stone.
I think Dynamo is cute and I want to rub his tummy
>>562098103Graves got patched yesterday people are gonna talk about her more.
The lion does not concern himself with his 800 damage mystic shot in a 30+ minute game
>>562097717>i mean the eternus stats are pretty good too>but eternus doesn't have enough players and sample size for proper data imoNone of this nuance existed the past week for graves, we need to nerf kelvin and dyanmo to the ground until thier winrate drops to at least 50%>>562097767Absolutely, it's fucking bullshit and he doesn't have to aim it or at least make it obvious like lash who gives you 3 seconds to counter before hand
>>562097767>>562098609Only reason stomp isn't even more broken is because it's so buggy. Also heal maxxxers keep his WR low.
>>562097767They need to significantly rework all of the ultbot heroes
>>562098609>None of this nuance existed the past week for gravesbecause she had the highest pick and win rates across literally every single rank. are you just baiting or what
what is yoshi going to add for the april fools event ?
>>562098494The two threads before that had 37&54 respectively, my point stands>>562098324>arguing weather it was a nerfThe only retard here is you
>>562098750A Victor buff...
>>562087205Update: I'm back to Ritualist after exactly 1 lost match, don't know what's up with the rank on this account but the game does not want to let me out of Ritualist despite winning most of my games.
>>562098750An actually good balance patch that gets reverted the next day>>562098860>weatherkek
>>562098750Fake Silver buffs
>>562098750Bunnysuits will be added for everyone and made the default outfit
>>562075690BLEED
>>562098948god i want victor in a bunny suit so bad
>>562082604Playing at night makes the games twice as high skill but you also get twice as many schizos
im mm banned for two days where can i find customs
>>562098324>whethersee>>562098919
>>562099324What the fuck did you do?
>>562098750did they add something last year?
>>562099491nta but I got mm banned after failing to connect to the servers and than was manually unbanned within a few hours for some reason?
>>562099357retard-kun?
>>562098750joust mode
>>562099491im a chronic leaver but this time it wasn't my fault, the servers shit themselves and i kept getting kicked to the lobby when trying to join a game
>>562098750nerf all weak characters buff all strong characters and leave it up for 24hours.
>>562098609graves is simply too easy to play the char pretty much plays itself, so it bieng strong in anything above mid tier rank is an indication that its too strong
Another day, another win for the Baxter Society.
Hosting an EU party, Anyone can join but I'm archon 4 so you know what you're signing up for.QQRX4Keeping it up for the next 5-10~ minutes before queueing.
Now that Graves is out of the way, how do we nerf Haze, Dynamo, and Infernus?
>>562098750A hero with autoaim and an M1 passive ability.
>>562099832Infernus still needs buffs
>>562099832haze is the ryu of the game (aka the most balanced and what other characters balance should be based off of)
>>562099814can I join I'm seeker 1 :)
>wanna screw around in brawl>enemy team almost always has infernus, paige, kelvin, or geist>can only ban one>the others turn the lane into an unwalkable wasteland
>>562098919see>>562099613
>>562099969Haze is a mess of character design and needs looked at.
>>562099891Autoaim in a movement shooter moba? He fucking wouldn't lmao
>>562099969thats abrams
I want to cum inside Viscous.
>>562099814I'm emissary 4 so I'm too scared to
>>562099832No we should buff dyanmo and nerf graves again, then nerf rem silver and apollo in that order
Victor needs buffs. Like right now.
>>562100173Venator…
>mfw there's a whole ass corner of the map that looks amazing but because I'm always on archmother side I never fucking see it>hidden king corner is just a bland unfinished hallway
>>562098283>climbing a rope is too hard for silver upplayersHow are they so bad...
>>562096930this is why Wolf 2 should have the phantom strike drive to the ground effect
>>562099986yes>>562100185who cares
>>562100251>One of the most finished parts of the map is a place no one ever goesWhy did they do this
>>562100289think you got that backwards anon
>>562100004>queuing brool in the first placeYou got what you asked for though. I dont know why Yoshi decided to do ARAM but forgot the part that makes it fun which is random picks.
>>562100304She should pin the people she lands on under her massive and in heat body
>>562100346They're going to put time limited shops back there that give you a random item at a discountnew psuedo objective to fight over
>>562100240>shiv calico and rem 44%Buff them right now, rem minnons should deal triple dmg, shiv's shivs should get their CD reduced and calico should get everything in her kit buffed
>>562096160>How is it a buff exactlyBuilt-in Inhibitor to not only your gun, but your skulls AND zombies
Game's balance feels pretty good right now, shame that matchmaking is still AIDS
>>562100240they want us to feel the pain just like victor
>>562100640I like this idea
>>562100705Zombies apply the full effect instantly now when they explode on someone, which is not meaningless.
>>562100705kinda, its a buff to support graves which is probably where they might just cram her considering how m1carry and spam is going
>it's a Holliday one trick on the other team while your Haze is an aimlet episode
can someone go to hawaii and ask yoshi why they’re still holding onto the remodels
>>562100940>Haze is an aimlet episodeThe only thing haze needs to aim at is creeps until she can press 4 to win
>>562101027free good boy points in the pocket to be redeemed (saar) anytime reddit/discord gets mad at them
>>562098712give unstop the BKB decaying durationdoes BKB still have duration decay? I don't know.
>>562099814>realize I'm too late to join>but also I would genuinely ruin it for everyone because I have been nolifing this game since I got invited and am too high of a rank for the average gamerI'm not even that good I just can't play with my friends.
>>562100705>t.retard that has never played graves If you upgrade your passive then both your zombies and skulls will be shit, the zombies won't have the movment speed needed to catch someone even off guard and the skulls won't have a slow on them, the only time you'd max out the passive is if you're going for a gungrave build, in which case you're not relying on your summons anyways and apply the passive by actually shooting so the third tier is useless, if you upgrade the summons on the other hand then you won't have the essence theft on them since you're trying to upgrade them and build spirit so that they can do damage, and if you're going spirit you won't benfit from the extra gun dmg anyway since your gun is ass>inhibitoressence theft is nowhere near inhibitor in utility or value, the amount of damage it reduces is so miniscule I'd rather they actually give her an actual third ability, especially since they raped the upgrade path into the ground. Also it only applies to 3 targets at once max and doesn't last long, it's not even half an inhibitor
Mo and Krill are the only honest hero
>Graves hotfixed to the groundGreat so now you have to fucking wait for the meta to emerge because it's impossible to win in this retarded shitty faggot game until you play the 60% winrate hero.
>>562090481same
>bebop and ivy on my team>every fucking time I charge as abrams one of them grabs me>gets me killed four times by stopping me dead in the middle of a pile of unstunned enemiesT-Thanks...
No idea why, but I have a deep psychological need to rim Celeste's asshole.
>silver and celeste both have about a 50% WR in eternusPerfectly balanced, no buffs or nerfs needed
why are they in hawaii? don't they get three weeks over christmas and three weeks in summer? have they made the three week vacation quarterly now?
>>562101751
>>562101986hotpoo is so lucky...
>>562102040>ahh instead of assI will not go on a rant about zoomers I will not....
>>562102040what the hell happened here?
>>562102201Yeah you'd better keep your mouth shut anon, or else I'll grape you...
I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF THIS SANDNIGGER BEING IN EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAMEI HAVE HIM BANNED YET IT DOESNT MATTER
>>562102201i play with zoomers and their slangs are vexingand im a zoomer so its even more confusing
>>562102201hush up goofy ahh unc
>>562102403I TAKE YOUR LIFE!!!! *takes your life*
>>562102403Skill issue
>>562102471I don't know if it even counts as slang since it's just them accepting censors to control their speech
>>562102381thats what happens if u eat ass where poop resides
>>562072321Holliday is unlikely to get even a remodel since she's one of first heroes that have leaked skins.
>>562102585ENDURING STRIKE!!!! *heals for over 300 per second*
>>562102403>Three dots? Well shit can't use the zipline for the next 10 seconds I guess>700+ hp goneOh no
2026i am forgotten
>>562102201It's supposed to be imitating how niggers say ass.American culture is centered around niggers, as we all know.
an entire patch just to nerf graves to worse than she was before they started buffing her
>>562101986Valve doesn't have "vacation". There's literally no structure and everyone works on whatever they want. You are only expected to bring some value to the company.
>>562102201he ate ahh bruh ong
>>562098283that rope sucks because it's not near a wallall others are very easy to chase against because you can just wall jumpif im following a player and they grab that rope, i just focus anyone else still on the groundlightning scroll solves this issue btw :^)
>>562102686it is quite funny thought that they say unalive, sewerslide and all that bullshit but when i started using faggot/retarded they eagerly added it to their vocabulary
>>562102860She still has 55% win rate
>>562102869>Bring some valueCalm down Yoshi, everyone knows that Valve is a retirement home for veteran devs or those with connections.
>>562102789He got turned into Mina + Rem
https://gamebanana.com/mods/664517
How to fix Deadlock:>Silver in wolf form now pulls and snaps the rope once grabbing it. Rope has a 15 second respawn time.
>>562102789Yoshi will bring him back with an even more barafied design
Thoughts on Zerggy and trackballs?
>>562072321>Holliday should genuinely get 100% cut and replaced with something that's not shit.Skill issue, her kit is fine just needs a few buffs and changes
>>562102201the best part is you know he didn't actually eat any ass and he's a virgin who's clueless about sex like every zoomer
>>562102940Guve it time
Is your favorite hero a hotpoo hero?
>>562103206mental illness
>>562103435fix victor please
>>562103194>Enjoy most of the low winrate characters>Forced to play Haze and Seven if I want to actually win gamesI fucking hate it man, I quite literally can't win with retarded faggots
>>562103194unironically really good balance
>>562102760SERIOUSLY what is their deal with giving m1 heroes insane damage on passive abilities???>hero that clicks on people>deals more damage by clicking on people>do i risk it and continue fighting, hoping that the enemy doesn't accomplish the insurmountable task of clicking me a single time and removing half of my health bar?>or do i stunlock myself behind cover for the next 10 seconds while the debuff wears off, and only take a quarter of my health bar?
>>562103435how do you look at yourself after comparing your creations sinclair, viper, victor to the rest of the cast
>>562103651I have the controversial opinion that every single passive ability should be removed
>>562103435>Every single one of Hotpoo's heroesYoshi, tardwrangle this guy please.
>>562103651Don't worry about it bro there is a built in radar too so you're gonna get raped murdered if you try to hide away and heal.Why did they make it a radar? Something about his kit synergy idk it's legacy because he'll really just kill you with the nuke dot anyway.
>>562103651Because Yoshi decided it was bad design for m1 heroes to shoot you and have that be the end of it because it was "le unfun" to have them instantly explode you if they got glass cannon + lucky shot + burst. So now everything is some cancer buildup debuff that makes more of their damage come from EE than actual weapon damage.
>>562103194They really should buff shiv>>562103570>metaslave
>>562103435viper sinclair calico, the 3 most unpopular chars unless they're brokenwow man what a talentless lucky retard
UPROOT AND A- wait I meant- FOR THE DJINN
>>562103771play sinclair cause he's fun
>>562103771Mina is the best designed hero in the game thoughever
>>562082947>almost the lowest damage in the entire game, on the winning team
>>562103194Venator didnt need any nerfs. He was like 49% Wr before they decided his scaling was too high on his abilities. I dont understand why they nerf mediocre characters and leave Seven alone for years at a time.
>>562103206>Thoughts on aimbot lying about (insert meme input device)
[Happy news]An airstrike has been called on the house of every smurf Celeste player.
>>562103990Key point winning
>>562103435Apparently not, despite the fact half his kit works like merc from ror2
>>562103990>do nothing all game>get carried>type gg ez in all chat at the end
can't wait for progression and cosmetics im sick of playing the game for no reason i hate the meaningless ranks
I hope they add different tattoo skins for Celeste
>>562104368>the consoomer simply cannot play a game for pure enjoyment
is there a hero with a "WE HAVE BIGGER FISH TO FRY" voice line?
At what rank people stop leaving the game if they go 0/5 in lane?
>deadlock twitter suspended>playdeadlock twitter privatedMarvel Rivals won.
i wish whoever invented this melee sinclair shit thats in every game now a very nice hit by truck
>>562104663>At what rank do people's egos stop getting bruised?Never.
open beta when
>>562104675I would reckon the Hebrews are behind this.
>>562099814Party is open again if anyone wants to join. gonna keep it up for 5 mins before queueing up.QQRX4
>>562104663Around PA I they just start feeding on purpose if they lose lane.
every game below eternus is just whoever has the most literal new people with 20 hours in the game who got somehow put in archon or oracle, loses automatically
>>562099969no m1gger that gets free damage just from bodyshotting you is 'balanced' btw
>>562102403Dispel Magic.
any lash playerswrap stone or leap? idk how to use wrap stone properly on the ulthow do u use it
>>562104663I heavily prefer if feeders ragequit the game so I can just leave the game myself consequence-free, as opposed to sitting around with a feeder for 30 minutes
>>562103261>BarrelWorst AOE in the game, bar none. Not only do you need to manually activate it, the range is extremely middling and it only feels like it does enough damage in mid game before falling off completely. Rem's pillow is unironically better in almost every facet.>Jump PadInteresting idea, but stomp damage feels like an afterthought. Set up and initiation feels decent but the whole kit falls off a cliff past 25 minutes.>CrackshotDoes nice damage and surprises the fuck out of people when it hits, but the rest of her kit doesn't do much with it outside of getting a high vantage point and her bullet velocity isn't high enough to make it feel consistent either.>LassoAn extremely shitty ability that leaves you not only unable to do almost anything, but also makes the lassoed character difficult to hit from the rest of your team due to the odd movement. Inferior to every other single target ultimate like Combo, Swap, and Telekinesis in practically every way possible.Her kit is fucking terrible as it stands because of how limited it feels relative to every other character, numbers alone won't fix it. The only reason to pick her is "fun" while you handicap the rest of your team because you could've picked someone who can contribute more than her with half the effort like Kelvin, Dynamo, etc. And if you're putting in that much effort into being a mobile menace, she's still the worst in that category because you're still better off picking Sinclair as his skill ceiling is not only higher, but he can absolutely turn the game on its head unlike Holliday.
>>562105042Reminder that Smurfs ruin everything. New players get boosted to higher ranks because the smurf detection system flags them for winning too much early.
>>562105189this reads like chatgpt
Why is Deadlock lane phase just constant lane shoving while Dota laning is an absolute refusal to hit creeps until necessary?
I dont understand invisiblity in this game, 90% of the time people just shoot me while im invisible anyway while im pretty far away from them
I need to see Graves and Infernus cosplay
>>562105270>average Holliday player's reading comprehension
>>562104316lobotomised dishonest hyper safe hero for retards btw>no actually anon the fact that I can have two counterspells after spending 3k is actually okay >all my kit doubles as escapes>they all do huge damage>free fucking stun by literally just walking into any ult and pressing riposte while aiming at them
>>562105284Theres little to no risk of overextending and getting wave priority lets you deal more damage to your opponents and deny their orbs more.
>>562105452Apollo is an early game merchant, if he doesn't get off the ground then he's going to be nothing more than a mosquito for the rest of the game
>>562105452Hirachi...
>>562105410They don't need a bouncer when I'm tending bar
OPEN BETA TOMORROW
>>562072321Holliday is entirely out of place interms of model and kit. But her basic character and some of her look is fine.She just needs a redesign to look like she's from the 1950s not the 1850s. And to lose stupid shit like exploding barrels.She's a gunslinger sheriff on a vengeance quest with a really cool gun, and should be build around that. Not whatever looneytunes bullshit she's designed around right now.
>>562079417except abrams doesn't have pain battery you mongoloid
5th melee sinclair this weekfuck this cancer shit game promotes unfun metas
>>562105452Stay mad m1gger
>>562105881Hopoo must die
>>562105069Get both but if you had to choose one go warpstone. Leap has too long a cooldown now. You grapple access the situation in the air, warpstone to get closer to everyone and ult.
>>562103261>no bro it's totally fine you need to perform 2 extra inputs to make the barrel do anything when Rem's pillow is the same ability but actually works when you press the button and is better in every wayfuck off
>>562105772It also doesn't make sense with her lore>She's from a town in Illinois in the 40s>She's dressed like she's from 1880s ArizonaAlthough I'm of the opinion that she should be from the wild west lorewise
>>562105945yeah but u have to aim up to warp up, taking ur eyes off the action, with low mouse sens its a huge hassle to use
>melee Sinclair>unfun meta>when melee hasn't ever been meta and lacks any sort of T4 itemization outside of Crushing FistsHoly pisslow
SOMEONE ORDER A COCKTAIL!?
>>562105330if I know someone has an invis item I take potshots down common pathways until I see damage numbers in the void, like retard echo location
>>562106164yeah its rly fun to have some nigger land guranteed melees on you while ur a bunny and he has the standard sinclair bullshit of never dying cause he can ttp 20 meters away on a button go kys nigger fuck u and ur cancer shit i hope this subhuman char gets reworked to shit
>>562106164yeah venator doesn't exist
>>562105881>he didn't counterspell or dodge out of the extremely telegraphed bunnyzone
>>562106290go back to league, faggot
>>562102939I really doubt most zoomers unironically say or think with those phrases in mind outside of avoiding censorship on social media
>triggered by fucking melee SinclairM1ggers are something else
>>562106290>its the dogshit pisslow schizo againlol, lmao even
Why developers hate Silver so much? I bet Yoshi has a personal collection of ryona Silver art Valve artists draw for him
>>562106346its unfun to play against >>562106429take ur meds tard
>>562106310Venator wallbangs don't make for a melee meta, it's just part of his kit.
>>562105738This you? Looks awesome commit to the tattoos next time anon
TAKING FLIGHT!
>>562106290RAPED and GAPED
>>562106439They saw the sort of fans Silver was attracting and realized they needed to dumpster her as hard as possible
>>562106439having ryona/gore of a character you like is proof of love
>>562106510You seethe the exact same way anytime someone calls you out retard, make it less obvious
WOAH ANOTHER GAME WITH RETARDS WHO CANNOT PRESS FUCKING F GOOD JOB THANKS FOR THIS MATCHMAKING YOSHINIGGER
>>562106439The only thing that can save Silver at this point in time is if Aghanim's gets added into the game and she can buy it to activate her ult whenever, sadly
>>562106050Dropping the explosive barrels alone would help a lot.
>>562105284Cause there's (thankfully) no last hit mechanics
STOP doing that
>>562106439They listen to the discordtroon cabal of silver upplayers because they scream the loudest.
>>562106290It seems my superiority has led to someone having a melty
>>562106659>n-no youclassic low IQ schizo retort
>>562106684From the looks of it, both teams couldn't parry to save their lives lmao
Shiv's kit sounds fun but I won't play him because he's ugly as fuck
>>562106691She needs to get extra souls per kill.
>>562106439ryona fetish is why they added these critical portraits
Reminder that Silver is currently one of the most broken heroes in this meta, if you can't pop off as her, maybe you just suck?
>>562107019true
I want to get to a point where I can play Doorman instinctively, I still have to actively think about door placements, I wanna start doing cool shit like putting a door behind an enemy then carting them to my team or something, anyone I should watch on YT?
Having a good Sinclair player on your team is the best feeling. There's just something special about them, like Hyperborean Agarthans who decided to grace your game with their presence than then proceed to stomp the shit out of the enemy all while moving like a cryptid
>>562107019Just how delusional are these "people"
>>562106804one thing's right shitclaire is very much a jewish char
>>562106875I can't play Shiv because I have dogshit aim and would miss 90% of his knives, an actual monkey given a computer would have a better time playing Shiv the monkey than me
>>562107019>She is vulnerable to 4 different things + etc.>S+ Tier btw
https://vocaroo.com/1gmbhdMaJkJI/vg/ros stop arguing and tell me, does this fit mina?
>>562106554She'd better be barefoot
Graves was good for 1 (one) week.>Taken out back>Shot>Raped her corpse>Revived>Shot again>BuriedLiterally, she did not deserve this.
>>562107172Pretty sure this is just deathy's tier list.
>>562107283yeah except when she was at her peak over the past couple of weeks, she was legitimately the most broken piece of shit I've ever seen in this game.
>>562107019Deathy was downplaying Graves at the height of her OPness and claims Lash isn't very good right nowLike all pro adjacent players he has an agenda even if he is mild mannered
>>562107283Graves is one of those characters where it's a bit of a necessary evil to have them on the weaker side. That kit is way too obnoxious and easy to play to ever be too strong
>>562107283The idea that someone can perform well without spending as many hours in an aim training map as you causes 'pro' players to have an extreme melty.Icefrog listens to the opinions of 'pro' players. Not their pickrates, banrates, stats or whatever. He just listens to the opinions of some of them that he likes.Balance is done based on that and vibes.
>>562107283how long do you think she deserved to be the highest pickrate highest winrate and easiest playstyle in the game
>>562092607Hey man, thanks for your original post, I'll try that out
>>562107493>Icefrog listens to the opinions of 'pro' players. Not their pickrates, banrates, stats or whatever. but graves was top pickrate and top winrate at all ranks
>>562107283Autoaim characters shouldn't have carry potential
>>562107441I agree Seven should be nerfed.
>>562107397at least shes still playable victor is dogshit
Love Bites more like Love Bitches.
>Seven is BROKEN!>Okay, explain how.>uhhh *leaves*
gravesfags are worse than moirafags, as least they recognize why their hero shouldn't be s-tier
how is that a parry
>>562107646meant for >>562107283
i wish mina would love bite my nipples
>>562107283>One WeekShe has been terrorizing lobbies since she was added, ShortTermMemory-kun.
>>562107724
>>562107147shut up cuck u get shitclaire faggots fuck ur mom too?
>>562107172"pros" basically play a different game, if they suddenly faced initiate tards they would lose because they'd be confused at what to do since every "pro" match is just them trying some wacky retarded shit meta and it all just evening outseriously, try any of the "pro" builds and gameplay style for the "broken" heroes and you will keep losing over and over
>>562107796The werewussy stench immense
>>562103435>the worst heroes in the game are hotshit's doingI feel betrayed as a RoRfag.
>>562107751But I just said >>562107441
>>562107596Yes. And?A lot of balance decisions do not align with pro pick, ban or winrates. Just some do. Some are actively opposite.It's only a coincidence when they line up.If no one was moaning so hard about Graves she would have sat unchanged for months.
>>562107829retards at initiate really tell themselves this and believe it
>>562107796It's Seven's parry animation
>>562107019Just had a silver game where the MO would go out of his way to ult me every team fight and I died everytime.Before you ask yes I had reactive barrierDoesn't mean anything when you get gangbanged.Obviously this is a extreme example but you can do similar shit on other heroes to shut her down.
>>562107543So we're just gonna pretend that Celeste hasn't been literally hitler since release? Or if you don't care about """pro""" matches how about Seven being top pick/wr for a literal month? Go to Statlocker, filter for Eternus+ and start clicking through patches/days. You'll notice only Graves gets super shit on for being good because.... We hate her I guess.
>>562107796She farts on them.
>>562107939literally me on the right
I YAM NOT DAHVINE BUT I YAM POWUHFUL
>>562107939posted the silver image award
>>562094226>trusting vyper
>>562107939You could also just walk away from the dogOr kill her, she's not that dangerous in dog form
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWBBSTxizdIfound this on my recs, feels like a bit of a gaslight to tell people to not buy defenses or counters when they're behind
How are they going to do cosmetics anyway, I'm praying it's skin lines like in league, and not mix and match like in dota, mix and match is the birth of artstyle destruction
>>562100240>near 50% winrate across all elos>stronger at low levels, weaker at high levelsOptimal for a character like Victor, and I say that as a Victor fan. I hope they rework his kit a little.
I BRING FWUOARTH THE LIGHT
>>562108217This is a falseflag operation to try and fuck over his opponents.>ha ha yeah don't buy any items to stop yourself from dying ha ha
>>562108217>open video>Calico gameplay>close video
>>562108228its mix and match
>>562108217pretty much every YT video is just going to be some shittake dude
>>562108456Fuck
Buff them and go to Hawaii and never come back
Every time I see apollo on the other team I build slowing hex and conter spell to make absolutely sure he can't play the game.It doesn't matter if he's 0/10. I want him to quit.
>>562108591valve has never really done sets and mix and match is much much much more profitable for them on steam market more volume of items and some random rare items n shit = lots of % profit from their market cuts
>>562108601>meanwhile Rivals devs get whipped and are only allowed to go home to their family for 2 hours when they finish the obligatory Spider-Man skin for the season before starting it all over again
>>562108601I don't want to her be buffed because it will mean meta shitters will flock to her.She should stay in her current state so I can one trick her.
>>562108678Yeah I know, it just means how the game looks thematically is on a timer
>>562108656doesn't do anythingslowing hex lasts like 3 secsby the time u buy counterspell hes already fed off lane and earlygame where his 4 actually matters not later
>>562108810>>562108810
>>562107810giwtwm in silver's place
>>562108217did you try listening to the video instead of just looking at the thumbnail
>>562108217depends, something like slowing hex with warden against apollo might make him have to get dispel magic against an item that's still really good for you in general, so that's a good counterthere are counters like metal skin against haze that make them have to buy curse or at least not just ult you buying you time to come back, and you can also just use it to anyone shooting you it's no harm, those are alright countersand then there's buying resilience when you're being blown up, or counter spell for doorman, yeah just try to play better, you're just wasting souls
>>562108932I did, I understand the idea of resistances being less efficient the farther behind you are and how buying a counter item when you can barely afford one is not going to be helpful when the enemy can easily buy a counter-counter, but in practice things don't play out like this, a lot of players will ignore buying defensive when ahead so getting counters will guarantee you a handful of picks before they wake up and buy greens, defensive items can buy you enough time to get another rotation of skills out or enough time to actually do your job if you have utility in your kit, efficiency is not always the best answer
>>562108217He's right.It's the same in all assfaggot games, if you're ahead your goal is to prevent losing, if you're behind your goal is to find a way to win. You do the former by playing defensively and the latter by taking risks.
We need a clown character.
Lifesteal Fist should have no cooldown if you hit heroes, only when you hit creeps
>>562092012I fucking LOVE throwing Geist bombs into shop. So fucking fun when they're low HP or they have rite up and I just toss shit into there.
so why is Shiv like a monkey guy
>>562097717>>562098609Filtering by eternus is fine after a week.A day after a patch drops is iffy.IMO Graves feels like a character that just needs core changes not to make her more balanced but to just make her less annoying and more engaging to fight against.
Yes, Yoshi. Balance around win rate.Surely we'll not run into an issue like league of legends where popular characters often suck ass because there's too many people who devote their lives to playing them and making them work regardless of how bad they are.
>>562103435More like hot poo, the fuck.
>>562108217The general idea that you should prioritise damage when behind makes sense if, and only if, you are actually good at moving around. Unlike other mobas your survivability is heavily dependent on your own movement skill compared to the enemies, so if theres a large disparity you can get away with a lot of stuff even if behind by a lot. Eg, i dont think a well played celeste ever has reason to build pure resistances, but other counter items are very good on her since she can jump in, silence curse etc whoever is the giga nigger and get out. At the same time, lets say you are playing Yamato and theres a haze on the enemy team that is 10-20k ahead and is just ult botting. Getting metal skin would probably be a lot more worthwhile than mystic reverb, because "just build damage to catch up" doesn't work when you insta die and have to wait another 30-90 seconds to get back in the game, during which you'll be falling even further behind in souls.So i suppose the better advice would be, dont pigeon hole yourself into "i must buy defense if behind" so long as whatever offensive item you are holding off on would make you a giga nigga rapist that can actually threaten the enemies that are ahead, but if you are insta dying then getting items that facilitate your escape are good, since surviving means you can continue farming, pestering, smoking crack etc
>>562106981wtf even is paradoxthat helmet looks empty
>>562111289>Unlike other mobas your survivability is heavily dependent on your own movement skill compared to the enemiesno it's about your ability to buy the right items because every character that's good can tag you with a 30-50% movement slow because they hit you with 1 ability which they can buff with items to be closer to a 80% slow or they just have a built in silence/slowing hex
do people really still complain about shiv when he's just infernus or mirage but with a cooldown on his dot
>>562112634*sticks five knives up your asshole* BLEED
>>562107265yeah.
>>562112875yeah it's funny when the silver player trys to bite your face off and just eats 5 knives as I M2 slide away and they fucking explode because silver mains are retarded and never buy remover, but then I can't do that for another minute and a half as I wait on knife stacks, in a game where characters have ults they can throw out every 60-80s it's really not that big of a deal when infernus/mirage don't have to worry about missing because they can just shoot you again
As I had promised few hours ago, I'm back after my nap and some 'chores'. Not sure how many matches I can fit in before having to go back to sleep to wake up for tomorrow, but let's seeI still gotta find the third main!>>562106429kek I love being the boogeyman of the general, unless you have another Graves schizo in mind. It's great to see people instantly think of me when other people complain about something. You honor me greatly.
>>562103771Oh look another smallbrain too dumb to play Sinclair
>>562107397lash isnt very good right now. hes one of the only characters that cant use EE as a true spirit burst character and is basically an ult bot which has like 30 counter abilities/items
>>562111862I genuinely think they just forgot that it's supposed to be a helmet or are going to rework the lore that it's not just a helmet.
>>562106290
löl
>>562106290if a sinclair is going melee build and is somehow dealing damage to you that's a skill issue.
