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Crucifixion Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-25-2026-update.121766/post-232903

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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Kemono when
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just how bad can your movement be in e6?
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They should buff Silver, she's kind of weak.
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how do you downwards dash???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=782nI45iYsY
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Apollo is balanced buy cc items
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>>562440363
double tap crouch
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Deadlock KINO is on the menu boys...
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>>562439157
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the biggest problem this game has is schmoovement. Positioning barely matters and everyone is omnipresent on what feels like a tiny map made for ants. The actual reason 4 lane map felt better is because it was and felt bigger, especially since schmoovement tranning wasn't a very common thing. Biggest showcase of schmoovement creep is paradox, she became a bigger joke with each passing month.
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Every single thread
>Silver furfaggotry
>No name alpha "esports player" faggotry
>Regular faggotry
>no inhouses
Yup dlg turned to shit
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>>562440761
dont forget some esl seething over haze
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>>562440240
Please itd be so funny
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how the fuck do I play yamato properly, I just got finessed by a silver player all game
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>>562440761
>inhouses
you mean the literal troon troupe?
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>>562440761
imagine her cute vampiric farts
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>>562440613
If a DL series was made shiv should be the main character not even joking he seems like an actual anime protagonist
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>>562440836
haze is a bloody bastard bhenchod that stole my izzat points
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>>562440702
They doubled down on the movement in this game being a problem by adding in ultra cancer like Celeste and Apollo that can just get out of every situation for free.
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>>562440761
There isn't ENOUGH Silver Furfaggotry in my opinion.
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>click play on my white trash playlist
>apollo and kelvin in street brawl
>play
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RELEASE ME
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>>562441015
new heros are just better versions of the older ones. silver is better at brawling than yamato
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>team yells mid boss is for pussies
>get over 20 kills in the last 5 minutes of the game because we just sat in their base fighting
>win without ever touching mid
kwaboty
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Hoodwink soon!
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How do I learn her without getting flammed?!
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>>562441235
yell "IM SWAPPING IM SWAPPING IM GONNA SWAP" only for your team to ignore it
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>>562441328
>cheats
Disgusting.
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>>562441235
just play dynamo pls bro
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>>562441328
they NEED to add twerk emotes to the game
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>>562440761
>inhouses
falseflag. inhouses were shit from minute one when there was literal discord tranny Onlyfans users in them
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fact: haze has no counters. if you buy defensive items you lose out late game because you no damage
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This game has made me a forced 50% truther
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>>562441697
I just cursed relic
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>>562441328
Fun fact: the tattoo removal mod is compatible with the fat mod.
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>>562441697
press the w key
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>>562441015
I don't know exactly how you vs Silver went, but Yamato needs to play fairly flighty and kite silver with range on her 1, and flat faster movespeed. If you have Ult, then you want to essentially burst Silver to death before hers pops; your 3's t1 makes your 2 do more damage, but I don't think it's worth it to waste your 3 since it has sustain.

basicially, run like a bitch if you don't have ult. if you have ult, overwhelm Silver as quick as possible. Buy healbane and mystic reverb (and personally mystic regen) as well

>>562441172
no she isn't, because Silver explodes instantly if you just don't play her games, and Yamato's very good at taking fights on her own vohilition (high move and grappletech)
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>Armed robbery goes terribly wrong
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>>562441328
jamaican deadlock
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>>562441806
people are crying for buffs for this character btw
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>>562441328
My performance is going to tank 5000% when coom mods are disabled and I no longer get testosterone spikes from playing as/against female heroes
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>>562441697
We're all joking about not buying counter items right? Metal skin is only 3.2k and lets you walk out of Haze ult.
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>>562440240
does he even have kemono? I couldn't find
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>>562441175
okay but really
>kill half of the enemy team
>option 1: spend 30-60 seconds rotating mid and killing boss for rejuv, which by the time you finish everyone will have already respawned
>option 2: nut up and push because you already have 6v3 advantage and any kills you take will only extend your advantage window
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i love victor
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>>562441965
not yet
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>>562441806
>be me
>losing
>win
ebin
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>>562441328
paige looks the same
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>>562441806
>>562441896
>I tried to stat check a stat check character and I lost, wtf
Stop trying to touch a hot stove. Dont try to beat a werewolf in melee range.
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>>562438512
dynamo player mad at cc champ #72, kekw
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says I'm Arcanist VI

is that super shitter rank?
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takes a fat dump on every dynamo
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>>562442243
yes
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>get silver on team
>does literally nothing and ends the game with the lowest damage out of all 12 players
Love when the matchmaking gives you a dead weight you have to carry, guess the game wants you to really work for your mmr.
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im in danger
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I'm initiate btw
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>>562442447
3 sluts getting bred by BRC
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>>562442015
we didnt even kill half their team we just went in 6v6 without rejuv against lash
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>>562442243
It's one rank below Eternus 6, known as The Swamp
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>>562441797
thanks yamabro, ill try harder next time. it was my first game as her
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>>562441806
Ixians are 12% of a match but commit 50% of the feeding
Thank God we've got Silver to protect us from these menaces
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I suck cock at the main game mode because:

1.) I get shop paralysis and don't know what to buy quickly
2.) I don't know the map and traversing it/farming is not good for me
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>get my shit stomped in brawl
>go up a rank
MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
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>>562442750
just auto buy it lad
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>>562441806
>he didn't use the golden infernus trick
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>>562442447
why are they all flat
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For the next April Fool's, Yoshi should randomize everyone's abilities per match.
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>>562442864
jeet brool is a strange and terrifying place where anything can happen at any time for any reason it feels like
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>>562441806
how is this fair?
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>heded *coughs* to bloo *wheezes*
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>>562442970
i play nothing but streetbrawl and got from phantom1 to phantom5 into obscurus
sometimes you meet absolutely cracked players but most of the time its 1-2ppl on each team that know how to play with two windowlickers
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>>562441806
NERF SILVER THIS IS AN SS+ TIER CHARACTER DEATHY SAID SO
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>>562442656
good luck soldier, just remember to play like a coward without your Ult
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>>562440761
So leave faggot.
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>>562441806
The Infernus was 2k down
why not just pop flame dash and run out?
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>>562443234
I'm sure you're just being a retard on purpose, but for the audience's benefit the infernoid played (and built) like a tard
>decides to take a melee range 1v1 against a stove
>dashes and keeps dashing until his ult goes off instead of shooting
>just willingly eats 2 out of 3 slam shots even when he's not bola'd
>no early toxic to compound his healbane
>when he's on THE toxic buyer
>against a hero who suffers majorly from antiheal
It's any wonder people believe this character is S+ when these are the people playing against her
Play stupid games win stupid prizes I suppose
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>>562442973
One's a lizard, one's a rock, and one's a southern chick
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Man, Kelvin is fun, too bad game was ruined by Pocket that left after 10 minutes of "playing"
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>>562441806
Silver, you have a girlfriend. Don't do him like that!
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A graves cosplayer just responded to my dms
See you later virgins
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>>562442243
gawd rank
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>>562444073
larpmaxxing today I see, how adventurous sir
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>>562444028
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Frick, my after work nap ended up lasting 6 hours...
Just had half of a Chicken DI parma dish and three dumplings. Time to boot up DEADCOCK now.
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if i play this patch will graves players still make me want to kill myself
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>>562444073
The cosplayer in question:
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>>562442447
Something about this reminds me of the art you'd see painted on small amusement park attractions
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>>562444214
yeah
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>>562444232
Is that Kim Jong Un cosplaying as Pocket?
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>>562444214
are you standing in green spaghetti range?
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Well /dlg/?
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>>562444302
I play lash, yamato, and silver.
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>>562444357
1
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>>562444338
>censored feet
NOOOOOO
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>>562442447
This art is so fucking ugly
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>>562444357
Mohammad looks dapper today
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>>562444357
4
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>>562444357
I stopped getting these for some reason
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>>562444357
3
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>>562444357
He's a solid 3.
Playing against is a whole nother story.
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>>562444232
Mina is a man, isn't she?
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How do you do the thing where you quickly drop to the ground when in the air?
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>>562444073
omg im so excited to play deadlock with you :3 cawwy me to eternus pwetty pwease? :3
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>>562444387
yeowch

yeah best to stay out of sketti range, as yama personally I pop ult just to explode her gay ass gravestone lmao (her parries mean nothing to Unstoppable)
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shoot your shot fellas
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>>562444683
double press crouch
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>>562444214
almost 70% pick rate dude
better wait till next patch
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>>562444837
Thanks
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>>562444735
what kind of 500 pound troglodyte is behind this account I need his cranial measurements
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>>562444232
average graves land whale
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>>562444232
can someone check the build in mina's pocket
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>>562444232
These are the goblins feeding in my archon games
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>>562445053
probably outdated because it has cold front on it.
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How do I deal more damage as Rem in lane especially if helper creeps don't stay alive
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when is yamato getting her fucking model rework
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>>562444232
>Severed hand
Did Graves eat the rest of it?
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>>562444735
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>>562445323
Hit with pillow and shoot gun
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>>562445353
probably not for awhile anon, they've moved on to keeping the new models unimplemented until everythings finalized.

in the meantime Kirill Senzu's mod is peak https://gamebanana.com/mods/599927
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>>562445312
Gun to your head don't laugh
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When you think about it Metal Skin is literally 30s CD bkb against m1ggers, why arent you building it in most of your games, anon?
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Movement trannies will kill this game mark my words
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Serious question.
Who are the characters that are great to use at low level? I'm talking Initiate/Seeker/Alchemist. Basically the ones where at the very least, if you don't fucking feed, will let you stand a chance later.
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>>562445556
obsessed
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>>562445649
Seven
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>>562445543
because it has a 40% winrate and I want to win
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If I say we go mid, then we go mid. Understand?
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>>562445529
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>>562445719
got it. farming sinners.
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>>562445719
yeah yeah just taking this camp rq broski
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>>562445719
Im with you boss.
*Lets go mid!* ping
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>See Dynamo waddling behind my team
>Soon to be the most telegraphed ult
>Silence wave him
>He waddles in panic and looks around as my team makes distance and kills him
Kek!
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>>562445312
is it bad that i find this kinda cool
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Dynamo is a dishonest hero just like about every single one from the "OG" cast, like Wraith or Seven. They have overloaded, all over the place skills that make them impossible to balance.
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>>562445529
>the silver
>the lash
>the fucking doorman
I don't think I could
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>>562445556
once game actually releases and good players (like me) start playing competetive they will be replaced
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>>562445312
That's a really REALLY good pre-old god new blood vindicta cosplay
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>>562445879
yes
extremely
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>enemy has silver
>get a free win
Thank you forced 50
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remGODS..... I Kneel...
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>>562445879
nawh you're just a real person who understands hope and love anon
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>>562445556
Bro go play a 2d game seriously you're in here complaining about the movement of the movement shooting game which btw is one of the best movement systems of all time. And you're whining about it.
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>>562445931
Nothing compared to infinite mobility Celeste and Apollo

You need 5 different CC items AND few CC abilities to kill either of them.
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REFLECT UPON YOURSELF
EXHUME UPON YOUR HUMANITY

TELL ME /DLG/

WHAT DOES SILVER NEED?
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>>562446401
buffs
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>shitstomping my lane
>take tower before sinners spawn
>one of them fucks off to another lane
>gets giga-fed by team retards
>comes back and rapes me
Fuck these people dawg
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>>562446198
Stop being so rude to her you fucking nigger, didn't you just see her beat up that infernus at secret shop
Give her some fucking RESPECT
>>562446401
A million dollars so she can pay off her car and buy a house and never have to work again
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>>562446401
chastity cage and my dick in her ass
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>>562443842
Jesus christ, I just noticed he didn't even buy toxic. Bet he went on reddit to beg yoshi for nerfs since he lost that 1v1(something infernus almost always auto wins)
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>shoot Shiv once to harass him a bit while on my way to the jump pad for the 05:00 rune
>''WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO STOP SHIV FROM HEALING, MAYBE I SHOULD CHECK OUT THE SHOP FOR HEAL REDUCTION ITEMS? THIS WILL ENHANCE MY TEAM'S CHANCES OF VICTORY''
can they please get rid of these voicelines for Abrams and Shiv
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your silver sir
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>>562442404
>>562446198
these posts are just invented out of thin air by silver downplayers btw
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>>562446401
Nothing?

The character is perfectly fine. I'm tired of all the drama surrounding her.
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>>562446581
Literally haven't seen a Silver win in over a week
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>>562446713
I love her so much
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>>562445312
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>>562446713
>goyim
chuckled
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>>562446719
Cope, silvertranny.
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>>562446713
>>562446812
a tale in two screenshots
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>>562446596
how does a pussy chastity cage work?
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Nice game yoshit
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>>562446845
SPOILER THAT SHIT
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>14 minute queue for normal mode
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>>562447002
For her fat knotty girlcock
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>>562447058
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wheres the goddamn patch
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>>562446925
You are poorer than her, don't mouth off
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>>562447116
She has ownership of your cock?
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it's so fucking over...
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>>562446845
>Smile for the camera everyone
Sweaty, is everything ok?
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>>562447235
When she wolfs out she has ownership of all of you
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>>562447182
Doubling down on emergency Silver nerfs. She 1v1 that infernus and won, she is simply too powerful probably went on to spawncamp them for the rest of the game.
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queues are broken???
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I'm guessing many others are having long queue times? Seems like something is wrong. This is unusual.
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>yoshi goes on vacation
>MM servers immediately break
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I like this game but I SUCK so much I get thrown into lobbies where I need to be carried HARD

FUCK
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>>562447381
i dont give a fuck about silver
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>>562447492
lean into it and play a support then
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>holliday sucks and has an unfinished model
>silence
>silver gets 0.00001 less gun damage
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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remodel patch incoming!
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>>562447421
I wonder if Icefrog/Yoshi even go to the Hawaii vacation.
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>>562447116
when did everyone decide Silver has a huge knot even there's zero indication she's not just a cis girl
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>>562447642
you could say the same about 70% of overwatch and league porn, who knows really
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just add silver to your filters at this point
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>>562447002
they're called "chastity belts" and have been around longer than the male version
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>queue for 20 minutes
>game cancels the queue
wtf yoshi
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>>562446845
BRAAAAAAAAP
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>>562447642
futatards from wow have done unimaginable damage to porn communities everywhere
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>>562447642
She doesn't, faggots just spam tranny jokes because they're genuinely brain rotten by futa porn, do it out of spite, or genuinely think spamming "girl cock" is funny.
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gotta admire the optimism of buying Trophy Collector despite dying 10 times, some people really are beyond help
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>>562447642
She's a big werewolf, it writes itself
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>>562448013
Colossus that early
For what purpose
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>>562448028
there are werewolf women though?
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>>562447592
Yoshi could fix Holiday if he replaced Crackshot with fan the hammer. Trying to land pin point headshots with a slow firing revolver is antithetical to her core gameplay of flying through the air at 100mph
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>>562447642
A combination of futafags, unironic tranny yuri fags, and bad faith posters coming together to ruin 4chan post quality.
>>562448013
probably some random outdated pubbie L->R build they randomly chose and then swore their life to.
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>>562447642
gock just makes everything better

https://files.catbox.moe/d4xv58.png
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>>562448103
>we finally get a werewolf woman for fucking once
>futafags latch on instead of letting us have just ONE thing
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>>562448313
god the smell would make me pass out
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I feel like you should be buying crushing fists and holding down q on Yamato after ulting and using your 1/3
I keep seeing people try and parry while she's unstoppable
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>>562448332
Women hate when men have attractive women to look at
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>>562446692
They're fine honestly, little reminder dialogue like this is helpful
I think the real issue is that they've rebalanced the game so now when Billy whines about Shiv having an insta-kill and sustain he sounds like a retard when every Shiv is a knife monkey
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>>562448313
Canon
Need more of this
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>>562448093
I have no idea, I checked all of the public builds, none of them had Colo as an early buy and only two suggested Trophy Collector as an item, with one of the suggestions being to use it as a lategame replacement for Juggernaut
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>>562448313
There's nothing attractive about this
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>>562448003
she literally does you fag

every girl in deadlock is caged up
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we are so back Geist bros
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>>562448952
Sorry Gorth but you played spirit Geist which means you didnt beat the game.
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>look guys i stomped with my auto aim nigger broken-tier character in pisslow
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>>562449041
rip
imma just continue throwing muh nukes though
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>>562448952
wraithsisters... what happened?
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>>562447826
>the little hearts
>holes for the front and the back
classy
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>>562447642
who cares dog dicks and knots are hot as fuck
>>562448313
based
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>>562449305
silver player pov
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>>562448952
>wraith took NOTHING to maximize her m1gger ability
>also didn't bother trying to do shit with her spirit nuke except raw spirit power
what the FUCK was she thinking???
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I'm curious how many people use nude/furry mods
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>>562449305
It is genuinely fucking funny though how most faggots with drifter profile pictures or "HAZE YURI" with gay flags in their names/bios on twitter will be alchemist or arcanist.
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>>562447270
the game might actually be playable again at sub 20k
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>>562449448
I'd use furry mods if most of them were "what if the character was a furry!" instead of just putting in some person's OC
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>>562449314
>who cares dog dicks and knots are hot as fuck
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>>562449763
I look like this and say this.
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>>562449314
as a furry I don't really like it :(
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>>562446713
>cheat mods
>still in arcanist
>extra spirit
shiggydiggy
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is kelvin 3B (broken beyond belief)?
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>>562445719
yes! *takes 30 seconds clearing the statues and boxes*
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Nothing about Silver's design screams futa, I'm an expert on futa.
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>>562448952
>that haze build
amazing
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>>562447270
>new characters
>nothing
>brawl
>all time peak
really makes me think....
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>>562450467
BrawlGODS saved the game, have you said thank you yet?
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>>562450447
Is the one on the right supposed to be Holliday?
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>>562450583
I think it's calico
not sure what the orange is about though
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IN HERE, *I* AM KING.
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>>562450583
idiot. RETARD!
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>>562450447
>mnk
>doorman
>???
I think the right is Haze?
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>>562450447
calling a character a pedo/israeli is safe edgy btw
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>>562450447
victor m&k doorman drifter haze?
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>>562446362
They will nerf it suck my cock you golem. Movement trannies laughed at me when I said vents were utter bullshit now they finally have a negative downside
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How old is Yamato supposed to be - in her late 20s, mid 30s? Her VA sounds that way
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>>562450583
>>562450678
I mean right of Doorman, I know far right is Haze
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>>562450583
>>562450725
>>562450883
>>562450773
it has to be holiday, the orange strip on the hat gives it away
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>>562450883
its clearly drifter you bozo idiots!!!!!!
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>>562443678
>>562442198
>>562443234
>>562443842
>muh soul diff
More people need to respect the wolf. She's one of the best duelist early
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>>562450836
>negative downside
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>>562451179
>that knife miss
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>>562451252
I accept your concession movement tranny, now hold still *unsheathes katana*
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>>562451179
just two fair and balanced characters going at it
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>>562451179
>that parry
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>>562451179
Haze had more unspent souls
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>>562451179
>haze already 90% dead before you even transform
What's even the point of making her a werewolf hero
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I have finally looked through all the mods on the list and installed what I wanted
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There are no cool nice skins for male heroes
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>>562451714
>I have browsed the cheat lists and downloaded what I need to win
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just pay 10$ for the warden skin mod bro
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>>562451772
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>>562451867
I am traumatised by Jiren so I don't think of warden
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>>562451907
AYOOOO
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>>562451772
I beg to differ
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>>562451907
Americans really do love their blacks, don't they
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>>562451859
Loud Heavy Melee is purely cosmetic dude
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>tfw constipated
Hero for this feel?
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>>562451772
ahem
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>>562452136
pocket
it all comes out in one sudden big brraaapppp
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>>562452136
Grey Talon
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>>562452136
victor
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>>562450447
This is like baby's first MMO/overwatch player's idea of anti-fun because they can't stand stun effects.
Actual easy Deadlock Anti-fun characters are Graves, Rem, Apollo, and maybe Ivy or Dynamo based on their balance right now.
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>>562452136
Seven
He lost control of his bowels when he was being electrocuted and he never bothered to clean it up
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Playing this game has made me realize the jews were right about the goyim
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>>562441806
>>562451179
genuinely unironically what could they have done differently here? Silver is just too OP
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>>562451449
man, i wanna go at it with silver
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vegas is funny
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>>562452343
the Infernus was already answered
for Haze
>not missed point blank knife
>not been horrifically out of position in the first place
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>>562452381
I bet she's actually very subby and vanilla in bed
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Silver has a juicy and tight cookie.
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>>562449314
Kill yourself zoophile tranny
>>562450051
>>562452193
You too
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>>562452343
Infernus could have hit the bricks with his flame dash and Silver couldn't do anything about it.
Haze could have turned 360 threw a sleep dart and walked away
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>>562452571
this
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>faggot ass ivy opens mic to ask why I contested midboss when the rejuv was falling
>they all immediately go fight the enemy team when they have rejuv in the jungle
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>>562452658
this will never not happen and I dont understand why
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>>562452567
Probably depends on how drunk she is at the time
>>562452571
... in wolf form
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>turn into werewolf
>deal less damage and lose ranged attack
>get barely any tankiness or mobility in return
>also lose access to your good skills
Honestly, don't even skill the ult and Silver is a better hero.
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what if she has a fat cock in human form but a huge puffy bushy pussy in wolf form
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>>562452802
ult-less spirit silver build is the new fucking meta
>>562452818
too gay and also it's retarded
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STOP. TALKING. ABOUT. SILVER.
TALK. ABOUT. GRAVES.
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>>562452658
I genuinely do not understand why my teammates will go off by themselves to fight a full rejuv team immediately after they got rejuv, nobody was even remotely nearby when they were actually doing it
It has to be Overwatch "if I'm not teamfighting I'm being useless" brain
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>>562452939
she's a minor so I don't care
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>>562452735
That tail implies cookie in human form
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>>562452976
huh? She's like 19, why are you baiting?
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>>562452939
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Doorman is in a weird place design wise. But his hostile is not an actively bad mechanic.
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>>562453070
Why is a 19 year old in high school
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>>562452939
not hairy enough
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>>562453112
dont interact with waifufaggots
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>>562453070
Graves is literally a schoolgirl, if you think schoolgirls are hot you're a pedo
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>>562453112
idk, 19y olds used to be still in HS in my country when I was that age
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Which heroes are beginner friendly to learn the game without being a hindrance for my team?
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>>562452343
>>562451179
>Haze didn't ult
>Haze missed knife
>Haze just pressed shift backwards once and slid down a ramp
Honestly the fact that they have walker almost down already and it's only 11 minutes in though surprised me more than anything.
Not saying Silver is bad by any means, just saying there's alot that Haze could have done.
>>562451690
Werewolf is honestly just a kill confirm/escape.
>1 does more damage the lower HP someone is/heals for a good amount
>3 disarms and slows which stops you from getting shot at and stops people from chasing/getting away
>2 is for catching up or running away from people.
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>>562453070
She's like 16, which isn't a big deal as it's legal.
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>>562453167
why are you projecting tranny? Holy fuck, what hashappened to this general?
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>>562453293
graves, Mo & Skill, Warden, geist
many people say melee characters but I find melee awkard and confusing myself
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>>562453293
Lash and Seven, depending on your previous game experience
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>I want to tear graves head off and kick it around like a football.
Okay.
>I want to have sex with graves.
Not okay.
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>>562453331
Untrue. Why would Valve make a game with someone like that in it? She's obviously 18y+
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>>562453501
thanks for your input drifter
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>>562453501
Hyperviolence is good. But dont you EVER think about having sex with someone who is 17 and 364 days old.
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>>562453421
>>562453435
I've been playing as Graves mostly, because of her autoaim and minions (I love her kit), but I often find myself having the least amount of souls and enemies just mopping the floor with me as soon anyone finds me. I can't even win 1 vs 1.

Anyway I want to learn more about this game but my recent lobbies been merciless for me. I usually end up getting max 3 kills and 5-7 deaths
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>>562453501
Niggas will actually fucking make jokes about gutting rem from chin to pelvis but the moment you talk about having sex with a legal 18 year old adult (which is 2 years older than most ages of consent in the world) all gloves are off.
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>>562453331
The age of consent is 18
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>>562450183
>cheat mods
you're baiting right?
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>>562453753
that image always makes me laugh
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>>562453754
>5-7 deaths
you are doing better than a lot of people already unironically. Lash is probably the funnest character in the game, and will teach you verticality and burst in and out movement game play. Super good ult nobody will be countering in lower ranks. Seven is great if you come from a shooter game, not as fun imo but one of the best in the game
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>>562453781
what if I want to have sex with rem?
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>>562453810
It's 15, anon.
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>Silver
Needs buffs
>Silver's ass
Needs nerf
>Silver's tits
Need buffs

It's that simple
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I wish I could just flat out dump 6,400 souls into enhancing an item.
Maybe not like... street brawl tier enhancing but I fucking love healing rite and which I could spam it in late game.
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>>562453331
>>562453960
pedophiles will keep talking about the number when that is never the fucking issue
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>>562453781
>gutting rem from chin to pelvis
this is hilarious though
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>>562454087
15 isn't a child.
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>>562454162
its not about the age you fucking retard its about legal consent as an adult and power imbalance. You as an adult will have cleared the age where you have property while a child wont and also you are responsible for your own actions
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>>562454149
It is. Fuck that little retarded jew gremlin.
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>>562454083
Honestly yeah I'd really kill for a way to enhance instead of replacing items. Like make it a single secret shop on the map so you have to be careful theres not a nigger there waiting to gank, get your upgrades, and scurry away.
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>>562454213
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The secret Chinese Shaolin Monk build IS HERE! Use this build if you want a 67% winrate and onetrick up to Eternus!
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>>562454171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=appQFGgPF4c
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why is there not a single mod that gives silver just a little tiny bit more tits and ass that's all I want
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>>562454265
Yes, and 15 is legal.
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>>562454265
>Muh power imbalance
A women should never be allowed to have power over a man
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managed to get a biofem rem player to add me on steam. any tips on how to get her to have sex with me?
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>17 = child
>18 = mature and well ventured woman
Mutts will never beat the allegations of secretly being a third world country.
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shoving rem into a microwave and pressing the start button repeatedly
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>>562454460
Play Victor
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>>562454460
whatever you do, do NOT just bee yourself
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>>562454320
>cheat mods
kys
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>>562454309
Funnily enough it's not enhancement type stuff but there's leaks about a supposed secret shop that sells you strong special cursed versions of items but they have drawbacks.
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>>562454340
>stan twitter reaction video
get the fuck out
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>>562454571
I have louder melee mod and louder footsteps mod it's QOL dude I have hearing issues stop discriminating against me
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>>562454571
>>cheat mods
That's an oxymoron.
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>>562454545
McNuggies looked better with a welding mask
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>>562454461
what country do you live in that you are comfortable and vocal being a pedophile
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>>562454359
>>562454545
>animulock
You know what, I actually like it
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>>562454460
seconding this >>562454502
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>>562454571
how is QoL lock cheats?
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what tracker are people using to 4 man speed rush me on the sidelane after they find out im the only person on my team with above a 50% career winrate and the only win con left
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>>562454579
cursed brawl legendaries would be kino....
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>>562454460
Look up Dan Hentschel for useful dating tips
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I'm so fucking tired of matchmaking tossing people who are very obviously playing their first game ever into my matches.
Nobody's going 0/18/0 because they just had a bad game. Nobody's playing Lash without jumping once because they suck at the hero. This is shit that can only happen if you have zero idea what is even going on and never stood a chance from the get go. It's just a complete total shitshow every single time for both the stomping and the stomped. New players should NEVER play with veterans. I don't give a fuck how long the queues last when this can steal half an hour of my life anyway.
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>>562451859
No that's gay as hell
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>>562454724
If you think 17 is not ok and 18 is ok you are retarded.
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>>562454816
What fucking character is that she's playing? Looks like Silver's animations but I can't tell
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>>562454819
I would like to know this too. Its far too consistent to be random.
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>how is (cheat mod) cheats?
coping idiot
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>>562454938
>>562454816
I was wondering the same fucking thing.
Seems like a modded Rem.
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>>562454729
here is another one I found
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>>562454816
mfw seeing that
you best drop the source right now boy
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>>562455074
How is it a cheat mod tho?
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>>562441328
me in the center
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All mods are cheats.
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>>562455324
https://x.com/mwaddeleine
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>>562455000
genuine aura and holy GET
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>>562448610
https://files.catbox.moe/7vyfee.png
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>>562455396
trvke
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>>562455518
Based
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>>562441328
>The fucking post-effect blurs like it's a fucking edit.
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>>562455420
Remfags are not beating the "braindead easy mode cute character designed for women" allegations, no wonder he's in every single game with a 45% winrate
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>>562455732
we been knowing this
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>saw a "person" with (trans) in their user name twice
>played mina both games
Minabros? Your response?
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this character fucking doesn't even do anything and people still seethe.
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>>562455732
Paige egirl > celeste egirl > piss > shit > /dlg/ poster on your team > rem egirl
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>>562456003
what about victor egirl
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>>562455983
You do next to no damage at the cost of being the most obnoxious player in the game
t.reformed doorcuck main
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>>562455983
Drifter is feast or famine and they are inherently biased against him even when he's 0/12 and not 12/0, because they remember being on the receiving end of the latter
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>e-girl
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>>562456003
>celeste egirl
You mean celeste tgirl
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>>562456110
Thats called balanced and honest hero
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another day of honest haze
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>Dynamo when rated C rank
>See him every game doing ultbot build
>Dynamo when S+++ rank
>No one touches him
?
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Is building damage and/or healing weighted that heavily? Why did Rem get MVP over me (Graves)?
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>>562456212
This, Drifter is literally mathematically proven as one of the most balanced heroes in the game, much like everybody else with an exact 50% winrate.
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>>562453167
>>562453501
>>562453753
>>562454461
>>562454887
You stupid fucks, why would you make it a sex thing? My OG post never implied that. It makes you self report.
Still - Valve would never make an underage humanoid character. Graves is at least 18. If you deny that, you are a projecting troon.
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>>562456412
he did lots of things
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>>562441015
one mistake new players might make is that they're not going for tier 2 grapple first. it gives +40 spirit power which is the fastest powerspike you can get on yamato as it buffs the entire kit and items with only 3 AP. use your 2 to engage and give yourself damage steroids for 6 seconds where you're supposed to explode the enemy with all your cooldowns
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>>562456352
>i need more cheat recs
No! kys!
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Why does this game seem so dead? Not the playerbase numbers but just in terms of recognition and marketing. Why does it seem like Valve doesn’t want anyone to know about this game, and why have none of the content creators that endlessly bitch about dota, LoL, overwatch, rivals, etc. checked it out? This game seems ripe for a hypefest and yet no one gives a shit. I don’t get it.
>inb4 because the game sucks
That’s not the point. Plenty of dogshit games do insane sales numbers just because they’re marketed well.
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>>562456412
you are probably a gun graves, don't talk
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>>562456475
all the posers leaving victor will crawl back when he gets buffed again
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>>562456595
valve makes a ton of shit "for fun" and abandons it, even when its quite polished compared to other games.
see: artifact, dota underlords
wouldn't be surprised if they abandon deadlock too
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>>562456475
Victards told me the character was so bad he was unplayable now?? And he still has a much better winrate than my main... interesting
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>>562456595
Because dogshit games pay streamers to play their dogshit games on stream
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>>562456412
I think each damage, building damage, and healing are weighted equally just in absolutes. IE he did more than you by one point, so it gives him a tick towards whatever determines MVP/key player.
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>>562454461
>aoc is now 17
>durr 16 is the same as 17
>repeat
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Im legitimately confused why are ppl saying all mods = cheats in here do they have tumors
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>>562456717
But I had more assists so it should've been equal.
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>just installed
Gonna spend my weekend on this game I guess. Silver and Celeste have caught my eye are they any good? Silver is really qt but werewolf mechanics/characters suck in like every game
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your next lane partner^
hope u rike dlg
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>>562456806
Feels like a coin flip when you match points with someone, seeing as raw stats you probably should've gotten it.
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>>562456881
both are horrible for a first timer. im guessing you are a tranny, try paige or rem
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guys I think I found a bug while trying to create a gun victor build. if you imbue aura of suffering with mercurial magnum you can keep magnum's effect up indefinitely. every time you toggle aura it extends the duration and reloads 4-11 ammo and even if you empty your mag toggling the aura reapplies magnum again anyway. abuse it while you can
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>>562456163
No I actually had biowoman on celeste in my game and she did pretty good
but tgirl is fine too
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>>562456706
where did he touch you anon
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>>562452136
dynamo
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>>562456595
We're still technically in closed alpha, I imagine once they shift to open beta they'll do a lot more advertising
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>>562456881
Silver is really good but requires good situational awareness and decent movement, something most silver waifu fags lack in this thread which is why I'm sure they'll tell you she's bad any second now.

Celeste is strong as fuck but probably not good for a new player because what makes her strong is her air movement which is gonna feel complicated and overwhelming for someone new so you won't be able to utilize it very well. probably better off with silver.
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>>562456973
Fellas is it gay to like attractive women?
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I JUST WANT TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOSHI
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>>562457102
>cheater
>still building bomb
baka
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>>562457147
In deadlock? absolutely
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>>562456595
Valve always expects their game to get popular with minimal amount of marketing
That’s how they do thing
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>>562456003
i like Paige eboys too
all sissies are welcome
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Metaslaves, metaslaves, come and point and laugh at the metaslaves!
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>>562456595
>This game seems ripe for a hypefest and yet no one gives a shit. I don’t get it.
Its not done yet, and they can cram it onto the steam frontpage to actually advertise to people who play games and thus they don't care that much about content creators who mostly just have viewers who do not play games these days.
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>>562457209
looking at nice things > looking at not as pretty things
simple as
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>>562457209
can you PLEASE elaborate how mods = cheating please and thank you
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>>562444696
jubei dota?!
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>>562457112
if a new player starts with silver they're going to get dumpstered for 100 matches straight and that's even taking into account the smurfs and brown/slavic animals they stick you with
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Pedos will hate it, but the truth is that even 18 is too young. I don't care about laws or whatever, but the point of aoc is when someone is mentally capable to be considered an adult, and frankly, especially with the newest generation, you're still a child til you're nearly 30. There's a reason they're called college "kids". If you disagree present to me a single woman under the age of 25 you consider mature.
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>>562456881
>Silver
Mid-game monster and 1v1/skirmish queen. Bad at farming, but excels at bursting down lone enemy targets. Struggles to enter big fights - needs to find someone on the sides or backline to hit so she can shift into wolf form. Easily countered on an individual level if your opponents bother to itemize properly, but strong in her niche
>Celeste
Although her building is kinda rigid, her kit itself is versatile and good at all stages of the match from laning to lategame. High mobility, high area damage, great space control for teamfights, and good survivability. Needs some practice to master as her movement is a bit unconventional (floatier gravity), but it's extremely strong once you've got it as it lets her walljump and maintain speed for longer than most other heroes
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>>562457321
Most big content creators don't even play games anymore either they just film themselves watchi- I mean "reacting" to random YouTube videos
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>>562457315
say it aint so
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>>562457425
fucking REAL, a well adjusted person won't go seeking out someone considerably younger than them, age of consent aside.
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>>562457315
I want my wife Ivy to get double tethers back before I play her again
I don't care if she has to get nerfs elsewhere to compensate, just PLEASE bring it back yoshman
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Why is Sinclair's pickrate so low? Bnnuy button is one of the most broken skills in the game, assistant gives him 2 instant teleports, bolt aims itself and chunks people, and stealing ults makes you feel like you're constantly taunting the enemy. is it the placeholder model that offputting?
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>>562457425
women having kids in their 30s is bad for humanity in general
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>>562456960
>2024, just installed
>Team mate Mo and Kelvin
>"BRO WHERE'S YOUR HEALBANE?? YOUR DIVINE BARRIER?? 0/8 THIS GUYS A NOOB

all gotta start somewhere
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>PLEASE explain how cheating is cheating
pretty self evident
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>>562457652
They don't care anymore, anon
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>>562456973
rem is the hardest support
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>>562457624
he's a meme character to a lot of folks, his ult is kind of goofy as well.

sinclairbros know that the wifepuncher is kino though
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>>562457754
.... said no one ever
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>>562457754
hardest? like a hard support? that's paige. if you mean difficulty, none are complicated. Paige actually does stuff in teamfights.
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>>562457652
Having children is fucking miserable dude just look at every single dad gamer, they get like 1 hour of free time a day MAX to play games, and that's if their nagging wife even allows it
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>>562456595
It's free, there's no monetization, it's a invite only alpha.
Valve probably never anticipated it getting this popular in it's alpha phase and judging by their previous NDA. They didn't really want it to.
They had a NDA but one of Uncle Dane's retard friends leaked the game and it blew up so they just flat out dropped the NDA and do the invite only telephone game style access.
Remember that a fuck load of people's initial reactions to super early deadlock was "THIS LOOKS LIKE SHIT, WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?!??!?!?!" and are still stuck with that first bad taste.
People don't realize that we're not even beta testers, we're alpha testers. Or they do know that but still continue to act like it's all over and the game will die because of some dumb balance changes.
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>>562457687
oh so you're retarded, thanks for explaining
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3 losses in a row
Was going to ramble until I realized its the weekend
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cheaters will always find a way to justify themselves
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>>562457925
They don't know what they've got
I'd give anything to be a dad and know there'll be someone who was happy I was here even after I'm gone
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>>562457567
well adjusted men want families and well adjusted women want children. hags having kids in their 30s is bad for strong family units and is demonstrably true
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>>562458068
I love how you think you have a point
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>>562457425
>>562457567
So I guess the entire human history is wrong
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>>562456697
>artifact
>dota underlords

>a shitty card game spin off of Dota that flopped and nobody played
>a shitty chess game spin off of Dota that flopped and nobody played
I wonder why these were abandoned by valve.
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ATTENTION!!! XQC IS PLAYING OUR GAME!!!
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>>562458145
peak dlg discourse

not detracting, you have a point, just only freaks are the ones who make a point about age of consent 17/18/whatever and probably don't even talk to their peers

>>562458249
100% totally yeag
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>>562458145
>visible pantsu
hhhnnnnngggg
i thought that was mina on the left for a second
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its weird that if i dont have a priority hero, it makes my queue so much longer
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>>562458146
He doesn't. It's bait my guy.
>>562458308
This isn't news. He fucking SUCKS at it and is boosted.
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>>562458417
>guy acting like a fool saying the same thing repeatedly for attention...
>is bait?!
say it aint so
>>562458308
also yeah he blows lmfao its comedic
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Sex with Venator
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>>562458408
idk if thats causation or correlation
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>>562458708
hot dog hero when
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>no ranked mode
How do I know if I suck or not?
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>>562458276
>spin off of Dota
their biggest mistake. they thought dotafags care about dota "universe" when in reality just like CSfags and TF2fags they don't care about anything but autistically play their game.
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>>562458276
artifact had a price tag and wasn't substantially better than its free competition. underlords wasn't well supported so of course people were going to stay with/move onto TFT. the point is both were well-polished games, especially artifact
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>>562458883
default mode is ranked
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>>562458708
awh HELL yeah
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This ivy was flabbergasted by the slows
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>>562458276
>Deadlock
>A good Dota spin off of Dota that is in alpha and with interest
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here again to remind you that there is no counter to haze
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>>562457315
I played calico BEFORE and AFTER the buffs because I love my black QUEEN of excellence
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>>562459113
haze player IQ is the counter
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Oh HELL no, you mean to tell me the official Deadlock Discord server has private esex voice chats?
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>no haze counter
bait used to be good
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>>562458919
Artifact was dead before it even had the fucking chance.
https://youtu.be/OR4jPtrDCLo
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>>562459113
complain elsewhere as well so they nerf haze just like they nerfed victor
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>>562458953
My wife Silver is SO strong
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>>562458249
Entire human history until 1960s had to deal with the fact that at least 50% of your kids won't make it to age of 5.
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It's funny how ivy players don't even have to downplay their character.
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underlords was so good, valve better overhaul matchmaking top to bottom, no small numbers tweaks, a complete do over or deadlock will die unironically.
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>>562459113
TSMT, Haze ulted me and I lost all my Izzat points
HAZE PLAYERS ARE FUCKING BLOODY BHENCHOD BASTARRDS THIS BLOODY BITCH WHORE CHARACTER NEED NERF NOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!
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>>562456595
If Valve wanted the game to be on everyone's minds, it would be. They could have Deadlock featured on the Steam storefront for 5 years straight if they wanted to
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>>562459209
name them. name the haze counters. list them off.
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>>562459263
Nobody tell this guy about abortions
Just let him go, he doesn't have to suffer
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>nigger & nigger + doorman lane
>I'm Silver
>no one wanted to swap
why does this game hate me so much? 2 games in a row I get M&K
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>>562459258
abrams and rem did all the work while silver took a year to kill a braindead ivy that couldn't even limp away properly
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m&k are the best hero
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>>562459229
no hero has ever or will ever be as raped as victor
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>>562459079
I think you're confused on what a spin off is.
>>562459465
Not NEARLY as bad as getting mid lane as lash and not a single person wants to trade lane.
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>>562459557
now do this to every other tank hero in the game and we're cooking
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>>562459487
Shut the fuck up
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>>562459415
nawh I believe in you buddy you'll figure it out, got a good gnoggin up there
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>>562459557
the pain will be worth it
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>just lost a game with 90k souls difference
>still took 40 minutes to complete
"deadlock" mode on a conceptual level is just completely retarded
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>>562459487
How the fuck did a cat poster get something right for onc-
Oh never mind.
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>>562459741
april showers bring may flowers... trust the qlan
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>>562457209
blast is gay
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>>562459751
thats why almost nobody played this game before Brawl
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>>562459216
yeah but can you really blame the customer when the market at the time was oversaturated with card slop and then have the gull to charge like $40 just to get your foot in the door? deserved death
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>>562459751
It's going to be the least played mode once community maps become an official thing
Nobody wants to play MOBAslop uncslop it's holding the game back
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>>562457360
he's a /twg/ger
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there are no haze counters other than winning before she buys unstoppable
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>>562459864
Valve hadn't put out a real game in over a decade at that point please understandu
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>>562459772
>may
are they really going to leave him like this for the whole month..
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>>562460094
>leave him like this
a perfectly balanced character?
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>>562459216
iirc the game literally died within a week
i regret not putting my cards on the market because i could've at least recovered $20 from my awful pulls
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I hate those fucking "we've seen your loss streak and we'll lower your rank temporarily for your free win :)" pity matches so goddamn much
It genuinely only gets worse and worse unless you snap and play a m1gger to break out of it and outm1gger their smurf
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soon ill be rank 1 and playing on night shift
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>>562460182
are you the anon mindbroke by victor
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>>562460289
impressive but the gap between eternus 5 and eternus 6 is huge
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>>562459664
silver's only use is satiating celeste's futa marecock with her puffy cookie and she isn't even that good at it

>>562460094
they left mirage buck broken for a year...
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>>562460289
I believe in you anon. I genuinely do.
/dlg/ numba one...
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Dynamo needs to be taken out back and shot, repeatedly.

His 2 is the most anti-fun, cancerous, overpowered ability in the game and they fucking buff it.
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how bad is bomb geist if i just sit in a lane farming and occasionally throw a maxxed bomb for creep waves and then rush the walker
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>>562460289
>428 out of 715
Damn nigga
Did you have an epiphany moment or did it start well from the get go?
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>>562460094
im sorry they raped victor a bit too much, but you have to admit that self-purge was obscene
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>>562460374
it really is, i imagine it's what people at other ranks feel when they play against smurfs, if there are too many e6 pro guys in the lobby i turn into a super victim
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>>562460289
Name your night shift team BBC
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Should I go get some Easter candy and soda right now? Gonna play Deadlock all weekend long!
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>paige rushes melee items
>misses all stuns (on purpose)
>goes 1/15
>spent all game acting friendly in chat to throw everyone off their blatant inting
>game still has no "avoid player" button
sasuga
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>>562460374
yes that's how a binomial distribution works
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>>562460542
I didn't play dota since 2017 but I had 5k hours in dota up to that point and a lot of shooter experience
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reminder that yoshi could easily have all new players play 10 bot games before letting them join your games but he chooses to rank them to emissary after 1 game and ruin hundreds of games afterwards

isn't deadlock so much better than marvel rivals bros? we're winning!
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>goober got kicked off of floormen
not big on compshit but given some of the posts i've seen recently people in this thread would find that amusing
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>>562460857
That is indeed mildly amusing
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>>562460857
i wonder why, did they conclude that he was a low value player?
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Graves is stinky
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>>562460551
yeah i don't disagree that the purge was op, i wouldn't mind the rework/change at all if they buffed aura damage instead of leaving it 0.6 scale and nerfing the range every patch
the 30% lifesteal nerf was fucking retarded too
i don't get it, they buff the fuck out of his range and pain battery march 6 then every single patch they nerfed everything but PB
the only reason he was working was bc of the purge giving him some time to heal himself with PB, his damage outside of it is pathetic and witchmail/spiri resi cucks aura even with EE
wouldn't even care if they changed his ult to be something else, he's just so unfun to play right now man. its so easy to counter victor and dispell magic is useless on him
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>>562460857
Is he the one trick that got made to play Holliday because his hero got banned
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>>562460816
oracle is perma fucked until 20k, I dont want to go back to rivals due to the amount of streamers that got me into toxic queue in eternity/c1 for calling them out for leaving me on solo tank.
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>>562461091
He's definitely good at the heroes he plays but I think his hero pool is just too limited, regardless of your feelings about Silver, having her highly prioritized in tourney one of your players is basically stuck between Holiday (bad) or Viscous (OK)
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>ban haze
>haze on enemy team anyway
>lose
>ban haze
>haze on enemy team anyway
>lose
>ban haze
>haze on enemy team anyway
>lose
>ban haze
>haze on enemy team anyway
>lose
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>>562456393
His pick rate is top 5 saar.
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>>562461304
LOL mindbroken
Turn on metal skin lilbro
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>>562461449
Paradox's ass is bigger, but she hides it
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I think I'm hardstuck in emissary
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>>562461449
and then when metal skin runs out but haze is still ulting?
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>>562460289
Thoughts on Silver?
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>>562461304
If (you) think Haze is so OP, why don't (you) play her and get free wins?
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>>562460289
Did you duo abuse? How did you get past the shitstacks in oracle/phantom making games literal coinflips? Or are you EU.
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>>562456674
>Boosted animals switching their main to the next S+ hero
No loyalty. Many such cases of this. Many are doing this.
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>>562461598
you accept you are a retard unable to walk away
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>seeker 3
>get matched into an 'archon' game
>not the worst member of my team

It really is just 3 buckets, initiate, everyone, eternus.
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>>562456754
Yoshi should add a white pixel at the corner of the screen if your game is modded. That way we always know when a poster is cheating.
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>>562460374
And the gap between barely E6 and top-50 players (tournament tier players) is huge too.
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>>562461625
What's the point of boosting myself playing Haze if I'm going to be useless playing anyone else at a higher rank
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>>562461808
A huge pile of HRT.
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>>562461621
i think she's just above average, not bad but not crazy good, her laning is really good though
>>562461634
I never really played at those ranks, I was ascendant at the start of ranked in 2024 and climbed to low eternus then quit for like 9 months and when I came back I got yoshi stimmied from archon back to ascendant
I have a few friends I play with sometimes but I mainly just soloq I don't have any eternus friends
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>>562456960
>being shitlow enough that new players can matchmake into your lobbies
Couldn't be me
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>>562461625
Fun.
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>>562461449
proof?
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Is this a spirit or gun kind of thing? Pls be fast.
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>>562440506
>Playing Apollo on street brawl
>Get hit with every single stun, slow, disarm, curse in the entire game
>Still Win
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>>562462108
Spirit but gun works
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>>562462108
depends on your match up
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>>562462071
>>562461508
oops
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>>562462108
It's an ultbot thing specifically, everything else about her kit fucking sucks (besides the wall)
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>>562461936
>I never really played at those ranks, I was ascendant at the start of ranked in 2024
OH YEAH that explains it. It was piss easy to climb then, I never played ranked back then and always played with hyper casual friends and it's an absolute fucking slog trying to get games that aren't a bunch of low ranks and one high rank that just coinflip games at any time of day besides very early morning. I think the more games you play the more biased the system is against you, anyway BRING BACK FUCKING SOLO Q.
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>>562462108
spirit is funner for me, but most people like gun more
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Yoshi please add end of game chat so I can flame people for low damage also show who queued with who
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>>562462108
You cant do shit early without gun investments. Late game you need spirit for your turrets and rockets to team wipe.
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>>562461969
>being shitlow enough to not expect deadlock matchmaking to do exactly that
couldn't be me
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how are people playing doorman these days? i feel like if im not doing vortex web combo plays and abusing the ultimate cooldown at max level im just kind of griefing, but im kinda bored of those playstyles. bells take so much investment to even be slightly good now and gun is still bad
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>>562462295
nigga 2024 ranked had like 300 eternus players
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>>562461512
Something else will be hardstuck inside you soon...........
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>>562462295
>besides very early morning.
Morning games are so fucking chill it's not even funny, I switched over both to avoid playing with my shitter friends and to avoid enemy stacks
Also the worst possible fate you can have in this game is to be the designated solo player for a 5 stack, they will never communicate with you except to blame any of their mistakes on you
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>>562462357
this image takes away everything that makes graves hot
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>>562462489
That cant be right because we only had 1000 players
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>>562462295
I don't really like playing with friends who aren't around my rank cus it just creates a bad experience for both of us, since it puts the lobby average somewhere in the middle, my friends are against people better than them while I'm against people worse than me most of the time
I just feel bad putting them in the rape zone like that
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ever since I reached phantom all the games are just 25min stomps, it's not fun to be on either side
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>>562462548
sluts are hot
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>>562462475
Yoshi nerfed anything viable on him so you just play the Tiktok clipmaxxing doorman with vortex, nothing else he can do now
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>>562462589
phantom is true elo HELL. it is the threshold between good, consistent players and absolute turbo boosted limp dicked bottom faggots
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>>562462538
I think the worst part about playing with any kind of stack on your team is when you piss one of them off somehow and suddenly you've drawn the aggro of the entire stack to backseat and shit on you for the rest of the match
I don't get offended by it really but it becomes a huge distraction to have some faggot in your ear through every single play you make so I end up muting them all
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>>562461512
Ask yourself, do you REALLY want to play with 5 viewer Twitch streamer sweats who flame each other nonstop?
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>>562462707
Phantom's been fine for me
I'm aus though so I don't tend to play with animals very often
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>>562462773
I'm NA east, I have like 4 different accounts in that mmr. Not because I'm hardstuck, but because my peepee is small. phantom 6 feels like the shitters go away and it turns into metaslave shit
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>>562457102
my og message
>>562457209
>>562458068
stop baiting him
>>562457360
>>562457942
stop getting baited retard
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>>562462475
Doors provide support for teammates, an easy path of retreat, the ability to heal up in the well and return to the fight quickly. Or just accelerate rotations around the map.
Obstruct the enemy farm, either by kidnapping them, or just taking sinners/jungle camps.
Push lanes and easily dip into the fight to still be present.
etc.
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>>562462653
it's honestly so strange. he has weaker regular damage output with gun/doors to make up for doors being OP which is fine i guess, but they also let you do vortex cart to walkers/spawn which is probably the most ridiculously strong thing any character can do in the game
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Infernus is such a giga cancer
>Press W
>Does 50 billion damage
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>>562462714
>when you piss one of them off somehow
Most of the time that "somehow" is them starting unnecessary teamfights when the enemy team is ahead, and losing
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>get holliday on my team
>lose
every single time
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>>562463163
I won with a Holliday on my team today, though
I was The Lash and had a Dynamo and Haze on my team, had nothing to do with that
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>>562463163
>victor on my team
>immediate 60% chance of losing
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>>562462475
I go 2 lvls in bell, 1 lvl in ult then max bell>max cart>max door and just play him like an assassin/burst like he used to be now that they brought back his cart damage. Max ult feels super overrated.

I max bell first so I can stack bells on someone during ult for giga burst and pick off potential, it's either that or you play meme walker doors but that shit honestly feels very trolly and bad as your bells will hit like a wet noodle.
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>>562463163
>get holliday with chink runes for name on enemy team
>it's a 20/0 holliday stomp time
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>>562463361
sorry bro...
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>shiv
>slavrune name
>either 40/0 or 0/20, no inbetween
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>>562463163
>get Holliday on enemy team
>it's some Eternus 6 smurf playing 30 minutes of floor is lava
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Is auto-parry actually a thing or is it just retards screeching cause they're bad at the game?
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She sucks either way but I've had way more success with full gun holliday than trying to do some spirit bullshit to achieve 10% the power of any of the spirit nukers in the roster.
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>>562463614
>mods on or mods off
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>>562463739
There's obvious ones around. If you're very lucky you'll witness the completely AFK enemy that can still perfect parry light melees.
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>>562462921
>mfw Im not metaslaving in high ranks
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>>562463739
i get all chat from my parries game after game

i just lmao and say git gud because i literally am parrying them with my FRICKIN MIND
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With his current kit, Victor can only be either OP or a throw pick, how would (you) redesign his kit so that he's more balanced?
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>>562462717
I want to be able to tell people I'm good at the only game I play
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>>562463739
Nah there's a decent amount of people using auto parry because it's a lot harder to spot than aimbot.
Usually it's gonna be people that instantly parry lights consistently instead of pre-emptively parrying.
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Game wouldnt be elo hell if they got rid of party queues
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>>562463974
he should be a skeleton king
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victor more like loser lmao
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>>562462184
>>562462241
>>562462197
>>562462416
Gotem. Went for gun. Thing feels like a peashooter even with damage stuff on it. Shreds objectives tho.
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>6 loss streak
>every single one utterly unwinnable with multiple people leaving lane 0/10 and ragequitting
MAKE IT STOP
I swear every time you go on a loss streak each consecutive game only gets worse and worse. These aren't even losses you can have fun in, just outright misery.
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>>562463974
make him like leoric from heroes of the storm
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>>562464157
Actually now that I think about it all guns feel like peashooters. Unusual for a shooter game.
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>>562464292
>each consecutive game only gets worse and worse.
You're probably getting tilted more and more from consecutive losses, take a break from the game for a bit
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>>562463974
He should be skeleton king (Forma de Leoric from hots)
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>>562463974
this literally isn't true though? just keep his original kit but lower the damage numbers until he has a 50% wr
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>>562463739
Both
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Auto parry is only a small part of the problem, parry existing at all is the real issue.
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>>562463739
Download the replay and look when they parry, autoparry cheaters are doing it at the frame perfect last second before the melee connects, also they consistently and instantly parry light melees too
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>>562464475
Yeah, you're probably right. It does test your patience and the irritation builds up. I don't usually me bunga team unga but fuck me, these were all exceptionally awful.
Off to bed I guess for some peace and quiet, night night.
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>>562461823
by your own anecdote you don't need to worry about having to play anyone else because you'll get her anyway
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so what's the mina panties mod
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>>562447642
>everyone
Faggots are a loud minority, anon. There's nothing more to it.
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parry sissies arent ready for when this bad boy gets added to the main mode
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>>562465021
This should be a 6400 item that exists alongside crushing fists.
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>>562465021
they need to reduce the downtime before bebop can melee after pulling
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>>562465021
Legendary items would be cool addition to the main game like a team objective that spawns mid late/ late game.
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>>562465021
>brool
>runed gaunts
>enemy outs themselves to never check items and try to parry my 200% distance punches
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>>562463739
>absolute knuckledragger going 0/6/3 with double digit soul deficit
>so bad at aiming that he could buy Torment Pulse and still find a way to miss
>somehow capable of parrying <100ms reaction time blind light melees with perfect accuracy
another reason why melee sucks
people don't even gotta play or buy Rebuttal to counter you
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>>562465021
>this enhanced
>crushing fists enhanced
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>>562465225
Leaked shop supposed to be that. But broken items like that would turn lategame into a fucking clownshow just like 5th round of brool
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>>562441049
I've said this before but Shiv is literally Joseph Joestar
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>>562465686
>>562465602
>10s Enhanced Celestial Blessing
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they could remove literally all the damage from doorman's kid and he'd still be a fundamentally broken hero because there is no counter to getting door carted under a walker other than "don't be within LOS of doorman all game"
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The problem with Archon is that people know you need to push lanes and they know it's best to have someone carry on the sideline to get souls but they're also still too lazy/retarded to do it so you get the bonus of being a Janny while accused of eating souls.

And then they do retarded shit like letting the Walker eat 20% damage as they "freeze lane" or not pushing the wave back inbetween camps so it's super easy for the enemy to suddenly 3stack the walker to 0hp
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>>562465924
warpstone
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>>562463974
I think they need to try to lean more into the drain tank aspect of his kit.
>Give his aura the ability to steal resists from enemies he hits.
>Have him gain bonus HP from his ult based on its level.
>Change his 1 to do damage based on his HP rather than spirit.
>Have his 2 give him bonus HP when he gets a kill/assist while it's active.
>Much lower spirit ratios overall.
Granted I'm not a dev so my ideas may be retarded, but I feel going in this kind of direction is better than what's going on now.
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>>562443965
Should commission a slave to draw a picture of Viper sunbathing on Ivy in stone form like a real lizard
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I believe that the whole melee/parry system needs to be rebalanced from the ground up to become fun
- Parries need to cost 1 stamina, with 1 stamina refunded on a succesful parry. That way baiting out a parry becomes more rewarding
- Charged melees need to cost 1 stamina, and take 1 stamina off the melee'd hero if the hit connects. That way melee-centric heroes can't spam charged melees on a succesful parry bait but they get to keep the opponent on the ground as a reward for outplaying the opponent
- Charged melees need to deal MUCH more damage. DPS should be higher than just holding M1 on the enemy hero
- Parries need a much longer cooldown so that baiting out a parry is more rewarding
- The stun on a succesful parry is perfect and doesn't need changing. Apt reward for outplaying the opponent with a parry
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>>562466125
wow now hes 70% wr hero good job
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>>562465924
>doorman's kid
A GIFT FROM THE BARONESS
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>>562466197
garbage post
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remove parries from the game
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>>562466197
treasure post
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>>562465924
counterspell
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>>562466197
This is probably the average feedback on the forums given the state of the game.
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>>562465924
>see doorman
>silence
>shoot him
too much thinking for you ig
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>play multiple games in a row
>win all of them
>next match
>win lane
>other lanes feed the clanker for no reason
>no worries, play it safe, take team fights when needed
>practically solo two mid bosses
>end up with a 20k sovls lead compared to all other players
>their base is pushed up fairly deep
>have ress crystals up
>attempt to play full team fights since they enemy is now always stacked
>my team keeps farming when it's like minute 45
>already have full build
>once again attempt to try and go stack vs stack
>they keep farming
>have enough, sell all of my items
>go afk
>lose
>am so demotivated yet proceed to queue another game
>decide to go full troll
How do I break the cycle? I don't wanna be stuck getting this angry and in a doomer mode.
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>>562466502
>see doorman
stopped reading there. veil walker and phantom strike/warp stone exist
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>>562465924
>see doorman
>press space bar once
>he now can no longer cart you into a door
WOAH!!!
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>>562466197
what is this 'baiting out the parry' sloppa like we're playing For Honor
just remove the stun and boom fixed
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>>562466575
didn't read your post
you are a dumbass nigger with protagonist syndrome
stay humble
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>>562466702
>protagonist
I'm the protagonist of my own life. How do I know if other lives are real or not?
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What rank do I have to be where my Rem's don't rob their entire team's sinners and instead take the other team's? I'm sick of these bum's stealing all our shit and being useless anyways.
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>>562466780
Protagonists are usually not low impulse niggers so you are a joke character in some other protagonist's story at best.
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>>562466910
then I should impact the lives of others as much as possible, preferably in a negative way
Is this what you are suggesting?
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>>562466869
The ones that steal enemy sinners are just as bad, they love to die and drop giant soul bags for the enemy team
It's almost like him being able to place minions on sinners should be removed altogether
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>>562462990
ok but it's funny
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Reminder that it is morally correct and, one might even say, a moral obligation, to teabag Apollo players whenever you kill them.
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>>562463974
>>562464074
>>562464317
>>562464487
These. He should just be our skeleton king / leoric. Make him an actual tank instead of a weirdo carry.
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>>562467107
Graves...
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>>562467169
that would be clamslam tho
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>lose
>therefore im going to lose on purpose next time! take that!
I really don't understand what makes some "people" think like this
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>>562467020
Don't pretend like you weren't going to be doing that anyway, you can't control it.
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>>562467213
at least tag me tranny
To answer your question: why should I try when niggers in my games don't do it? Fun fact, the game where I went 0/37 ended up being a win. The system is rigged.
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>Entire enemy team running deep into our fucking jungle or past walkers to hunt kills
>Retards in the side lines are just farming jungle casually instead of rotating or pushing
Ascendant IV btw
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>>562467035
Yeah his little chudlings are the most obnoxious thing about him. Allies should at least be able to call them off sinners or something idk. I just don't see why they need to greed everything on the damn map aside from the fact that they can.
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>>562467373
>chink
>fag
>mutt
The state of gaming
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>leoric trailer was 10 years ago
bro...
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>>562467453
>feeding on apollo in early game
>zoomer safe pedo trasktalk
kwab
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>>562467550
>slav
>fag
>fat
>tranny
>tranny
>tranny
The state of gaming.
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>>562467550
Mina, Pocket and Mo are all cute
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how the FUCK do you stop the stutters in thsi game how have they not fixed that shit
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i dont feel so good
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>>562467885
buh... silver unplayable.......
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let me out ive been wallowing in my boygirl sweat all fucking day playing this stupid FUCKING game
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>>562467869
switch off Vulkan
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20dollars?
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>>562467981
white ppl are so vile.
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>lose game
>ended up throwing so many people into our spawn that the winning team is still pissed anyway
doorman is so fun
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>>562467981
cute choco
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>you pick 1 character and you level them up
>could pick the vampire, the zombie guy, some other person it dont matter
>like 32 characters to pick from
>complicated at first but in the end, very simple.
>it's a, main object you have to fill up
>use a spell and kill the other guy
>holy smokes.
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I'm not very good at this game so it might just be my rank but can anybody explain WHY so many Calico's in my elo are always spamming melee? Is there something about her kit aside from her 1 that encourages melee damage? This is specifically about Calico btw not everybody in my elo are melee only retards.
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>>562466575
Play brool
If you lack patience (like your post describes) you will do better in a 15 minute meme mode
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>>562468093
kemono when
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>>562467981
not until I sniff your bussy
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>>562468280
burst characters usually tend to try to sneak in some melee attacks when possible.
good pockets sneak in a light melee when going in and out of their briefcase as well.
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>>562467981
what characters do you play
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>>562468285
Why would I play a fake mode no one cares about? At that point might as well switch games.
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>>562468280
good value innit
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>>562468093
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>>562468412
mirage victor and vyper
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How to Birry?
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>>562468402
That's fair, I know Silver's 2 also gives you the option for a light melee but I'm talking fully charged heavy melee which I should've clarified. I've run into at least 7 of them that spam heavy melee despite being parried constantly so I was curious if it was some meme build or something.
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>>562468512
cute
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>>562467550
>>562467373
>>562445312
>>562444232
why are they all subhuman dlg?
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>>562468093
He lowered it but its still paid
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>>562468093
They're gonna make it free and set up a donation page apparently so basically how it should've been from the start
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I wanna kill myself after that 50m game where my nigger team mates wouldn't group up for a team fight with ress crystals up and huge souls lead. I had full build... would have been an easy win... why...
I don't wanna play anymore today, destroyed my mood.
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another loss to a 20 kill haze
still no counters btw
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>>562468764
cant tell if you are baiting or not
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>>562468629
I NEED Valve to send this retard a cease and desist
Please it would be so funny
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>>562468629
I hope Valve nukes this nigger's steam account
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>>562468813
list the counters
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>get silver on team
>again
>lose
>again
Yet another silver loss, still haven't seen this worthless dogshit hero win once this patch
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>>562468629
The gloat portrait feels so out of character, Warden wouldn't smirk
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>Play 29 games as one hero (rem) in a month
>Check leaderboard requirements which is 20 games per month
>Not on the list
What the hell am I missing? I'm not even shitlow.
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>>562468661
For a much better value you could join Deathy's Death Slam and get instant 24/7 pro coaching and consultation to learn all the tips, tricks, and techs you need to maximize your game
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>>562468852
skill
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>>562468852
warpstone
metal skin
plated armor
walking away
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*mogs your paywalled skin*
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>>562468852
large cocks attached to men with oveewhelming musculature preferably with time stop devices so they pause time then mating press her over and ovee then unfreeze time so she cums several times over instantly im horny btw
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post OP heroes
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>>562469105
pic unrelated
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>>562469105
Good one anon
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>>562469105
excited to see this skin leave Beta
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>>562469146
Heroes for this feel?
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is vyper hard to aim or its me being bad
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>>562468524
Remember that blasted amps your gun too, whenever you're in blasted hug people's faces and wait for them to parry, the risk/reward on light melee is REALLY bad but you mind control people into parrying when you're in their face
Also remember bashdown applies every melee proc
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>>562469345
i play her alot she isnt very hard to aim with probably one of the easier ones but her mag is small and bullet per dmg sucks before items t. knower
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>>562448952
>spiritual overflow haze without capacitor or echo shard knife
what did he what
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>>562469321
haze whilst driving do you crash and go into a coma and have amnesis
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Is phantom strike a thing on Haze?
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>>562469613
on her ult yes it is quite good
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>>562469681
Right, but in what cases would you buy it over her other Tier 4's?
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>>562469419
ah ok thanks
do you slide a lot? she's really fun to play but feels quite hard
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>>562469105
What is this? A Canadian Pimp?
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>>562469907
shes the character that taught me how to slide honestly, sliding is one of her best things it sounds silly on paper but you can slide behind cover or awkward angles or even chase once you get the timing down
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with dynamo is there even a point in building utility/tanky now that his stomp is so strong along with the displacement being so good?
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>>562470161
i forgot to mention she slides fast up slopes

i think she is very item dependant but you can get cheeky kills with her poison burst thingie
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>>562468605
Because there is no blond chad to cosplay in deadlock sweet baby ink., besides apollo who is a literal demon
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>>562469105
Silver, noooooooooooooo
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i am 2/11 as dynamo what can i do to recover
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>>562470161
>>562470363
thank you animebro i appreciate it
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>>562441151
Lash is the closest you're gonna get
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>>562470161
>>562470363
OMG HI KOKOMI!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>562470613
Stop holding your ult forever
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>>562470613
afk until enemy team forgets you exist then sneakily use your ult in a teamfight
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>>562468880
Being on ascendant still counts as shitlow
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>>562470779
hi begita!!
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>ban mirage
>hes actually in every game
>on the enemy team
>the match has banned yamato and victor for some fucking reason
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>Team has 0 team fight ults
>Try to force mid boss and lose 3 times
These retards have 0 pattern recognition
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>>562470352
rescue beam if you have mouth breathers/silver on your team
you always need tank items if the other team is competent
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>>562471393
how many heroes does icetoad need to add before he can add captains mode?
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>>562469105
shounen character vibes, doesn't fit his voice and lines
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>>562469105
>We have $10 Warden skin at home
>Warden skin at home
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>>562471393
i see infernus way more than mirage but im only in archon
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add linkins sphere to the game. idc if you can counter it with a 800 item that means the enemy wastes a slot
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>>562472059
there doesnt exist a precedent in deadlock for a 800 item countering an entire build/character so that wouldnt happen
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>>562472241
>what is rebuttal vs punch viscous
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I wanna have deadcock friends...
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>>562472059
tfw no basher
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>>562472453
add every silver player
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WINNING GAME
HAZE BUYS UNSTOPPABLE
LOSE GAME
NO COUNTERS
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>>562472453
we can be friends?!
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>>562472682
big if true
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>>562469105
this is way better than that paywalled trash. it suits his character more. fags just hate it cause he doesn't resemble their nostalgic tf2 tom of finland homoslop anymore.
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>>562472710
this item has like 10 different things attached to it for some odd reason for an 800 soul item.
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>>562472710
Why is there no item like this against gun or spirit?
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>>562472710
most useless item in the game
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>>562472850
t. Billy
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>>562472835
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What's next for this bitch?
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>Help me deliver this thing!
>Haze is missing.
>THIS IS THE END!
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Just watched a clip of a streamer slam his keyboard on his desk over refresher Dynamo
Was this a valid reaction?
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spiritsissies really got it too easy and no one seems to care
>>562473128
yes
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Since all the highest win rate heroes are all channeled press 4 win game we really should be a 6400 item that just ministuns for .001 instantly through unstoppable
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>>562472059
linkins would be too shit in deadlock, there's simply too many cheap targetted items that have good range to trigger it.
Counterspell is simply much better.
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I had a spirit rape Mo and Krill try and tell me Lash was as unbalanced as Dynamo earlier today
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>>562473227
a certain portion of the playerbase would NOT like this one...
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>>562473015
>4 times the price
>doesn't reflect damage
>doesn't heal yourself for reflected damage
>doesn't give you increased damage
>doesn't give you bonus health
>debuffs you when you use it
>24 second cooldown instead of reducing cooldown of parry to 2 seconds
Literally worse in every regard but also more expensive, how exactly is rebuttal balanced?
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any street brooler here? does it really go through parry?
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>>562473357
nah
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>>562473101
presses the cube

huh?
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>>562473357
Yes, but it has a cooldown.
Each heavy melee reducing your cooldowns is the real op part of this item, it works on creeps.
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>>562473591
>>562473591
>>562473591
>>562473591
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>>562472453
i'm a silver player and everyone adds me
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>>562473620
proof? send me a steam invite (you know my name)
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>>562472736
100%, its solid
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>>562473019
Rape. Perchance.
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Will Kelvin ever get a more draugr like appearance?



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