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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9213 - Totem Edition

==NEWS==
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>>562528897
>Boom Amy writing a 4000 word text wall calling out Boom Sonic's misogynistic, gaslighting, avoidant, sexually harrassing behavior
How do people like this Amy?
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Draw something satanic in the whiteboard now
https://magma.com/d/q85gVWtIwB
https://magma.com/d/q85gVWtIwB
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>>562529327
Boom Amy is unironically one of the most insane and obsessed versions of Amy.
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Would you watch an Olympic movie about Mario and Sonic?
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What if Infinite is back in the cast but he's now poor and broke and doing odd jobs and sleeping in a dumpster apartment in the hood and spends his weekends drinking beer with his feet up watching Family Guy
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>>562528458
>edit
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Kiss your favorite Sonic character
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What would a fight between Shadow and Fang look like?
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>>562529748
Kissing him on the forehead
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>>562529690
What if you could buy poor mobians like slaves?
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>>562529710
>with Fox Sally
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>>562529690
Fuck Infinite (sexually)
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>>562529690
I remember there was a fancomic like that actually
can't find it now
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>>562530161
Nicky without glasses
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>>562529867
The United Federation Civil War was about that
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>>562528493
Lucky girls

>>562529842
Is that your favorite spot to kiss him? I can't decide, he's so kissable everywhere
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Cream the Rabbit.
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>>562529327
They have low standards. They like it when self-deprecating, masochistic millennials take a character beloved for her true personality and change it just for the sake of peddling unfunny meta humor and sarcastic jokes
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Cream that rabbit
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>>562530373
Yes that's my favorite spot since it's the biggest, though I could his muzzle as well
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>>562530562
Nice :)
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Just to remind you before the next issue releases that there are anons here that are actually coping that Sage is pretending to be kidnapped for some reason
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>>562530238
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It's rabbit season
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>>562530554
This pic is older than most of our users
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>>562529918
Shadow.. .
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>>562530726
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Mania is shit.
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Giving Tails my juices
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>>562530738
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This is unironically accurate. I was confused when Forces released and people here kept telling me I shouldn't like Tails anymore. "Treating stories like watching a game of a sport" describes that behavior well
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>>562530768
Her first game, too.
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>>562530970
I agree. Probably why I never liked powerscaling culture. It's like these people don't care about proper storytelling
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>>562530970
You Tumblr types will do anything to defend character assassination.
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>>562530970
Men like characters they can self insert as and feel cool through those characters
Tails being a loser in Forces was 9/11 for those people and even now they're traumatized to the point of writing Tails post-Forces has this ever present ghost where you must address him being a loser who shook his butt up to Chaos 0
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>>562530970
IDW deserves to be grilled for being OOC but this is a good argument
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>>562530970
>Forces released and people here kept telling me I shouldn't like Tails anymore
The kind of people that do that were bullied for similar reasons and want other people to suffer
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Douge
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>>562531308
I hate the way Forces used Tails too however disregarding anything related to Tails because he isn't """""cool""""enough is stupid
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"Let characters be vulnerable! Let characters have whimsy! Let characters wrestle with inner demons"

I hate IDW fans. I hate IDW fans. I hate IDW fans.
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Okay, so:
>Sonic has quills that allow him to destroy badniks by jumping into them without hurting himself.
>Classic Amy was originally designed with quills like sonic, so same principle applies to her
>Knuckles has quill-like elements so close enough
So how the fuck can Tails jump into the badniks without hurting himself? He has no quills, he just slams himself against eggman's machines, and thats not even getting onto the rest of the characters (like how egregious it is for Cream to be able to destroy badniks without hurting herself as well), literally what is going on with him???
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>>562530718
Why did Evan nerf Sage like this?
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>>562531308
Lol? I wasn't a Tumblr user even when it was at its peak of popularity and don't like how Forces portrays Tails

>>562531391
Interesting
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>>562531619
It's not the quills, it's the spindash.
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>>562530970
This is unironically accurate. I was confused why millennial white women don't understand male characters. "reinvent the IP, either by feminizing it or changing the main character to look like them?" describes that behavior well
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>>562530970
>they treat it like it's not a story with ups and downs
Tell me how Tails rehabilitated after Forces
Tell me when Silver had any cool moments
Tell me how Shadow jobbed endlessly
IDW is not a story with ups and downs, it's mainly a story with downs
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>>562531391
Projecting your insecurities on other people to perpetuate your trauma is the path of the Weak
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>>562531619
He uses his 2 tails which are strong as fuck for some reason.
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>>562531434
Hot
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>>562531619
>>Classic Amy was originally designed with quills like sonic, so same principle applies to her
Classic Amy wasn't built with gameplay in mind which is why they gave her a hammer to compensate her lack of ability in the first place

Tails being able to roll into a ball is more of a thematic thing. Tails is a fox but he's special and can do similar things to Sonic. Also foxes are burrowing animals, I guess making them roll isn't much of a stretch
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>>562531619
>So how the fuck can Tails jump into the badniks without hurting himself?
His tails
But also, it's just a game mechanic, don't think about it that much
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>>562531787
This is simply not true.
Meanwhile, men will latch on to any blank-slate character and self-insert as the chad who makes a harem out of the entire female cast (including the children)
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>>562531614
>"Let characters be vulnerable! Let characters have whimsy! Let characters wrestle with inner demons"
This sounds like what Harley (the twitter user) would say
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>>562529690
>Infinite wakes up in his apartment
>Its located above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley
>The heat and water is off again
>Breakfast is another bowl of stale Raisin Bran
>He heads to his shitbox of a car, it won't start again
>Has to use his bike with two flat tires to go the 15 miles to work
>Of course it's a thunderstorm
>Another 12 hour shift at MehBurger
>Crying kids, vomit, entitled Karens, the stench of grease, loud annoying music
>Work is finally over, has to bike home again
>The storm is somehow worse
>Supper is an expired frozen dinner
>The power is now out, has to eat it ice cold
>He lays down on his stained, roach infested mattress
>Looks at the time
>Has to be at his second job in 6 hours
>Sobs silently into his pillow
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>>562531798
Silver does have cool moments in IDW that fans insesanantly use to defend it. They think it's okay for the character to be literally anything as long as he does cool things from time to time.
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>>562531787
Isn't it human nature to self insert/project though. Humans have been doing this for thousands of years
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>>562531798
IDW fags are no better than Hype moments and Aura niggers only they want Angst moments and Feels instead
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men and women should be segregated permanently
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This is unironically accurate. I was confused why people enjoy making canon compliant fanwork and why they might like to bond with others over shared appreciation. "They're part of the in-group that gets every minute detail of the true vision" describes that behavior well.
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>>562531779
Spindashing is self-explanatory in how it could destroy a badnik (even through slamming onto a machine at high speed would still hurt but shush), but tails can still destroy badniks by jumping onto them, so there has to be something about his body that allows him to do the same "destroy the machines by spinning midair which can shred/hurt the machines because of how fast the quills are moving" thing from sonic
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>>562531918
Arent his tails usually visible to the left during tails' jumping animation?
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WOLF

WOLF

WOLF
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>>562530970
Nothing good came of having Tails act like that in Forces. He never bounced back or got a redeeming moment, it was pure humiliation ritual. That’s why it was shit and should be treated as such
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>>562532303
That's a good point, I didn't consider that. Then there is no explanation, it's just how it works because the gameplay is based on Sonic's
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>>562529690
>>562532059
>Infinite has to hang with the hooligans
>They replaced Fang after a falling out
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>>562532009
Bait
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>>562531787
>>562532251
I see my post upset you lol
Sorry anon
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>>562532009
>This is simply not true.
It is. Just look at Kathleen Kennedy's whole career at Lucasfilm or the 9 out of 10 times a female author takes over a male oriented franchise.
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>>562532251
I'm kind of mixed on this

On one hand I believe people shouldn't really be limited when it comes to their art/fan works. But I also don't understand why you would change a character's personality in your fan comic since by that point it's not the same character is it?
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>>562529690
Fuck off with this sitcom shit.
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>>562532527
this looks like that pro-rape kitfag
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>>562532303
Why does there need to be an explanation for game mechanics at all? They're cartoons. It's cartoon logic.
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>>562532348
*awoooo!*
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>>562532126
This is why I only respect female Tails fans.
Male Tails fans see themselves in him as the little guy with potential, but they feel shame in their vulnerability so they overcompensate, which is why it's not uncommon to see them turn Tails into some long fanged SS uniform-wearing chud who fucks Rouge the Bat, and they still have brain strokes over Forces to this day
Female Tails fans however aren't afraid of vulnerability, they cherish Tails being cute, they properly see Sonic as the inspiring big brother, and they embrace Tails being weak and scared as means to open their own hearts through Tails and let themselves grow instead of rejecting their flaws.
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>>562532402
Its like how luigi went from having his suffering be a punchline after he acts tough while saying snarky shit in luigi's mansion (like how he would be like "hmm this painting sucks ass, how can this be called art?" then end up shitting himself from seeing a rat afterwards) to simply getting scared every 2 seconds for no reason to the point where its not even funny.
These companies lose their way when it comes to shit like "character like tails gets scared then overcomes it later and becomes brave" and end up creating humilliation rituals even when people get tired of ir
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>>562530962
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>>562532251
Trying to stay faithful to the source material is bad? I understand being annoyed at snobbish fans who use it as an excused to pick on people but I don't see why this should be assumed as the motive for fan works. Most Sonic fan projects have been generally canon compliant and rarely use material from the western branches in the first place.
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>>562532782
Rah!
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>>562532251
When the fuck have fanworks ever been remotely canon compliant?
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>>562532568
I see it as giving fan creators grace in their depictions, sure there are examples of almost night and day characterization but ultimately I think they're just growing accustomed to the creative process
it's something you have to let develop, because only time would really tell if the creator gets better at their grasp of the character or if they're content in their flanderization

besides, what one fan is doing in their own little bubble isn't hurting anyone at the end of the day
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>>562532553
What do you mean? I completely agree with you. There should be more moments where my comic OC beats down the game characters and make them look pathetic because I have a seething hatred of the Japanese.
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>>562532725
There doesn't but it's still appreciable.
My life isn't better because some Japanese guy did his job and designed a character competently, but I acknowledge the effort anyways.
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>>562532854
Is that why psychopathic evil tails is so common?
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Comicfags are trying to spin being in-character into a bad thing. Absolutely pathetic people.
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>>562532876
Faithfulness isn't a problem until it starts destroying projects for not being faithful enough
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>>562531671
To make her literal self-insert puppet look useful and better
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>>562532854
I agree with you but... What you call female Tails fans is me, and I'm a man
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>>562532854
Not all male Tails fans are like that, and wanting Tails to do cool things isn't bad, it's just that to some people a character is ONLY defined by their "feats" which is just dumb. And the Rouge stuff is just porn I don't know if many people actually like the ship genuinely. Like I've seen people say they find Sonadow hot but that they wouldn't want it to actually happen in the series
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>>562533015
He's just complaining about any time he sees Sonic that isn't a shitty comic version
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>>562530889
Fujos hate heterosexuality so much that they have to portray Amy as being complicit and accepting of Shadow and Sonic being gay for each other. Fujos' iconoclasm and penchant for defacing male/female love never ceases to disgust me
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>>562533015
sonic twitter apparently, but even they're bad at it. there's so much more fanwork that's OOC than canon compliant. this tranny wannabe gamedev just wants to complain about a minority in the fanbase because he hates the games and hates seeing people enjoy them.
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I LIKE EVAN'S WRITING..YOU ARE ALL JUST INSECURE BITCHES.
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>Summon Gold into your world for a boss.
>She's so useless she doesn't even have the stats for her primary weapon.
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>>562533082
when has this ever happened to a fanwork?
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>>562533037
Nah I think evil psycho Tails has gender universal appeal
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>>562533167
I know I'm generalizing a bit. The porn bit does have a lot to say about men even if it's just a fetish, because wanting to self-insert as a young boy fucking the hot big tittied women kind of screams desperate for validation in the manhood world
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I want Sonic characters to be in character and everyone reacts like you would in real life
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Some of you can't help but think in absolutes and hyperbole, huh.
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IDW fans will get offended if you write Sonic as the wind and accuse you of trying to pander to Sega. It can't possibly be that you like Sonic the Hedgehog.
IDW fans also do this if you portray Amy as being interested in Sonic or use ant version of Silver that isn't his IDW version.

Comic fans hate the games.
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>>562533167
>Like I've seen people say they find Sonadow hot but that they wouldn't want it to actually happen in the series
Thats probably because loved ships end up being hated if confirmed canon, canon ships are generally hated (and are fully despised if its a canon straight ship), while fanon ships are generally beloved, so usually people dont want their ships to become canon because itd mean that people would turn on it and hate it, usually they secretly want the ship to be canon and beloved but the potential backlash makes them not want to take the risk
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>>562533363
Evan is the insecure one. She has to self-insert as Belle just to feel good about herself
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>>562533019
Clearly not since I don't think any of the stuff you said just now

>>562533167
I think Rails has more to do with Rouge fans than Tails fans, the focus is usually on her, not him, they just use him because he's the young boy character and they want to be dominated by a bigger woman. Which is fine, whatever, but I think it has more to do with Rouge than Tails
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>>562532853
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>>562532595
Why are Sonic fans allergic to humor?
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>>562532854
Please tell me how Forces was actually good for him, I fucking beg you
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SCRIBBLE HURRY UP
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>>562533491
Hmm idk I think it's just a taboo fetish thing. It's not like some women don't have "daddy" fetishes either
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>>562533665
it's not funny
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>>562533538
When things are as fast paced and furtive as they are now, you have to be extreme to survive. Fence sitters won't survive in this new economy.
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>>562532126
It's a lowest common denominator behavior. This is why I'm not truly racist or sexist. The Indians had it right with their caste system that pretty accurately gauged the quality of people. An intellectual black man can get along with an intellectual white woman far better than a hoodlum of either race. Though modern society is doing the opposite of fostering any sort of quality which is how we have the current state of the Sonic fandom.
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>>562533647
I think you got it backwards. Rouge fans appreciate her being three dimensional and flirting with everyone in different degree, almost all Rails content treats Rouge as nothing but a pair of balloon tits
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>>562532854
>Tldr "I'm a gay nigga and I like to suck big cocks mmmmhmhmm I love cocks so much"
That's what you sound like anon
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>>562533809
Sorry, I said "Rouge fans" but what I actually meant was "people who just want to have sex with Rouge". You're right, Rails isn't even about Rouge, it's about her tits
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>>562533647
I mean isn't like 98% of straight porn focused on the woman though

>>562533604
Hmmm that's an interesting observation
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>>562533018
>giving fan creators grace in their depictions
yet that screenshot gave canon compliant artists no grace at all. even if they're not bothering anyone they're apparently some sort of plague that needs to be exterminated because they don't appeal to a certain person's sensibilities. sure.
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https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/shigeru-miyamoto-teases-sonic-in-mario-kart-r601/
It’s funny to think the only reason this didn’t happen was because they genuinely didn’t think Sonic in a car made sense
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>>562533363
>>562533623
Yeah Evan had to repeatedly tell the audience that Belle is actually good and that her writing is actually good too guys nothing wrong with her writings and her OCs
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If Sonic were real he would be an ultra fencesitter until chilli dog prices go up
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>>562534091
And then right after that she admitted to most of her work being ghost written by Ian.
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>Tails and Kit are fighting in the group chat again
>Charmy is on his Adderall and won't shut up
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>>562534069
Sonic drift is older than that, so that dont makes sense.
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>>562534275
I doubt anyone at Nintendo had ever heard of that game
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>>562533714
I don't think Forces was well written at all, but its ideas aren't inherently bad. It's too underwritten to make a coherent story where Tails fucks up and has a falling out but it could have worked.
Which is why I think this >>562531308 argument isn't very good. In a cast full of mascot characters you can repeat character arcs even as a way to reinforce them. It's not because Tails saved the day before that he'll never fail at anything again, it was just terribly done.
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There is no answer other than amy not being lucky enough to get a moveset before modernshit ruined the entire concept, and tails was.
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>>562533647
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>>562534069
I never understood the "Sonic in a car" complaint. It's a race, Sonic is the fastest so he would defeat everyone. Making them race in cars makes things more even and skill based. It's really not that hard
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>>562533561
That's because IDW fans are low-testosterone gays, troons, ultraliberal fujos and himejoshis who self-insert as the characters. They hate Amy being interested in Sonic because they hate heterosexuality and feminine female characters and they hate Silver being brave, tough, and steadfast because they hate masculine male characters.

IDW fans want Amy to be a domineering independent girlboss and Silver to be a wimpy fanboy of Whisper who hangs out with the girls because they self-insert as those characters
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>>562534018
That's the point I'm making, Tails doesn't really matter in that context, Rails porn is usually just normal porn with a Sonic skin rather than Sonic porn specifically. It doesn't really have anything to do with who the characters are. She has tits and they want tits, the male only exists to self insert or make her look big and dominant. Porn of other ships are more likely to use who the characters are as part of its core appeal and give spotlight to both, but porn ships are just porn
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>>562534379
>It's too underwritten
This is the actual issue. Same with Colors, Generations and Lost World.
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>>562534454
As a concept it’s boring
It’s genuinely on par with the idea of just giving a gun
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>>562534379
Just wanted to say I agree 100%
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>>562531904
>>562534396
Ray should be the ideal Sonic character if you're going with abilities translating from real life capabilities.
>Can dig
>Can glide
>Can climb
>Squirrels are twitchy, i.e. fast
I also headcanon he lifts thanks to Mighty's influence, so he's deceptively strong.
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>>562534379
Eh, I get Forces was going for him "losing it" but Tails has been becoming more and more cowardly since Sonic Heroes with him being afraid of things he's either defeated or at least didn't mind before. I don't really buy it being a character arc thing.
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>>562534379
Ideas are nothing without execution. What we got is character assassination, point blank. “It could’ve been good if it was different” is saying a bunch of nothing.
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>>562534809
I mean those are cartoon characters, it's fine to exaggerate what they're able to do. Tails in particular is probably the most cartoony since his flight is a visual effect/gag. Fang too with his spring tail
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>>562533561
It's funny because IDWfags never played the games or just don't try to understand when they do.
Saw a discussion of a few IDW fans outside of here, and they were complaining about how in Sonic Rumble Omeg, the weapons are toys and that IDW is better because in the comics, his weapons are real.. And then proceeds to complain about how SA2 is bad because the game does not make sense since Maria is shot for "no reason."
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>>562534454
it's because the west didn't do a good job showing off his "buddy protag" personality. Sonic is here to have a good time and be the cool mascot that tells you you're valued
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Anyways, I like Tails
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>>562534921
Tails was afraid of ghosts since Classic, and having fear isn't a bad thing

In Forces I really believe they wanted to give Tails a character arc with him bonding with Classicnic and recovering but not even that was well done since Classicnic barely does anything at all in Forces
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>>562535089
>Omega's weapons are toys
fix'd
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>>562534921
All of that is also character assassination, Forces is just the worst of it. Tails is not supposed to be an outright coward. He can be scared and show fear, but never let it actually impact his ability to be useful
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Perhaps having an official tumblrcore Sonic game was a mistake
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>>562534634
>As a concept it’s boring
This makes me imagine a concept for a hero-shooter like game (unique characters with abilities), but mixed with a racing game genre.
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>>562535259
Murder?
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>>562534491
If that were true then it would be exclusively porn and you would never find any fanworks shipping them unironically.
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>>562535259
What are you talking about
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Tails's kids
(Thanos snapped because Sonic wanted to get laid in his 40s)
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>>562535345
Shadow and Amy are such hecking wholesome besties!!
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>>562534809
You can't convince me that Mighty and Ray aren't gay
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>>562535259
Letting westshitters make rehash slop like Mania was a mistake.
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>>562535381
They look cute, especially Sky

God thinking about Tails as a dad is so weird lol. He would look like a little fox with those middle age accountant glasses
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>>562535429
how else are we going to get Silver?
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>>562535330
There is some of course, but I think most is just porn. It happens with even just Rouge by herself, she's often reduced to the sex appeal and nothing else
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Frontiers definitive edition rumors so far
>one new costume (Link)
>LoD increased slightly
>only new content is a mini game using Joycon Mouse Mode involving Tails
>color filter modes
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>>562535089
Omega's not even in Rumble.
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>>562535560
Sauce for the rumors?
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>>562535546
>infantilizing Silver again
Evan...
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06 is about Silver traveling back in time to the 3rd Festival of the Sun to get the Iblis Trigger off the menu
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>>562535715
Just resetera from what I know, not sure if it’s from the same dude who leaked the OOT Remake and Star Fox
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okay so when i'll get tomodachi who should i trap on my island
make a list of namefags now
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>>562535637
Someone should draw Omega and Kit on the waiting line as they see Care Bears get called in lol
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You guys are so boring these days
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>>562535637
And that's true. Don't know where that came from, but it's true that Eggman has a toy gun in the game, but the game itself is a toybox. Won't mention where this came from, but it's one of the "Sonic Official communities."
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People will talk trash on the american 90s design in the same breath they praise the Saturn and DC styles which are exaggerations and arguably evolutions of said design. American Sonic is what made him popular in the first place too.
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>>562536360
If you don't see the difference between this and Greg Martin, you can't be saved
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Ironic
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>>562536273
>>562533641
>>562533456
>>562532875
>>562530962
>>562530738
Eggman...
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>>562536448
Nice :)
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>>562536360
I don't see how Okano Sonic is based on Martin Sonic

>>562536448
Cute
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Drago's cock~
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>>562535556
That because Rouge is Rouge she is sex appeal character and informs the rest of her character, she is in team dark because she is the seductive femme fatale, she a cat burglar because is the Sonic Catwoman another sex appeal femme fatale character, she just drawn that way
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>>562529140
this is only the first evolution. you cannot even comprehend its final form
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>>562535426
Silver is a good dog
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>>562536637
sonic didn't say that
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>>562536273
Why do people think Vanilla has huge tits? She's pretty clearly in the flat chest, big ass club with Cream and Surge.
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Boy!
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>>562536823
We don't deserve Aogirinairu.
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>>562536823
Aogirinaru's pfp
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>>562536530
Why?
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Forces was supposed to be a cute little uplifting story about overcoming difficulty through teamwork but people will never even try to recognize it as that
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>>562535426
Still no smut between these two
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>>562536960
It's official art but yes
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>>562536753
Because people are horny.
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>>562536979
Sonic and Gadget definitely had sex and Gadget topped
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>>562536979
Yeah because the execution was terrible. Same as Colors
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>>562530962
>>562532875
>>562536273
Kissing Rabbits
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>>562536979
Because it’s not that. It’s “holy shit I’m so fucking useless without Sonic-sama AIIIIEEEEEEEE”
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>>562536979
It should be about suffering and pain
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>>562537041
We needed number 1 holy shit
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>>562501624
i gooned to it two times already....
something about the breeding mount and werehog is just so fucking hooot
i dont know i'm so chopped
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>>562536979
Maybe don't frame your "cute little uplifting story about overcoming difficulty through teamwork" around a global war that went on for over half a year?
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>>562537384
Yeah, 1 is my favorite, followed by 4. 3 is nice too. I wonder if anyone tried to finish them unofficially
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>>562536637
Cigs' pole.
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>>562537194
>“holy shit I’m so fucking useless without Sonic-sama AIIIIEEEEEEEE”
That's like the entire cast of this franchise in every game except maybe Shadow
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>>562537518
I thought 3 was the cutest since he looked fed up
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>>562537437
Can barely reach a table top, small rascals.
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>>562537498
It doesn't make sense to me he's a robot he's not gonna feel anything
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>>562537437
Cute boy

>>562537665
It's more unique, we have tons of pics of him being happy after all
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>>562537498
you're based
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>>562537651
This is why people keep saying that Sonic is a Gary Stu
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>be Anon
>be Tangle's friend
>be there for her always, support her, comfort her in times of need
>be her friend for years
>profess your love for her
>she rejects
>she fell in love with some random wolf bitch that uses her insecurities to her advantage
>you point this out and she gets mad at you
>you reasonably crash out
>she says you're like everyone else, doesn't care about her, and to never talk to her again
>you almost commit suicide on a bridge
>but a cute fox girl talks you down
>you apologize in a drunken fit and all she does is soothe your cries
>she's there for you
>you hit it off really well
>a few years later
>living successful life with tomboy fox wife in a cabin in the mountains
>both successful game streamers
>you get a call from a random number
>it's Tangle
>she, broken voice, admits you were right all along
>wolf girl used her insecurities to keep Tangle with her, argued a lot, expected more from Tangle and gave almost nothing back
>Tangle apologizes and 'realizes' you were always there for her, that you were someone she needed and screwed up
>asks if you're free to hang out in the future to rekindle friendship and "maybe start over"
>you say no and block her number

>be Tangle
>you blew it
>he still hates you
>and your girlfriend is a lazy nightmare
>you find out Anon is a streamer
>successful
>and...
>he has a tomboy wife
>also successful
>he looks so happy
>that could've been you
>what have you done
>"UUUUU TANGLE I NEED ANOTHER PIZZA ROLL OR I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF UUUUU"
>OH GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
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>>562536650
Nice try shatougefag
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>>562537651
Only since Unleashed
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>>562537792
how would you rewrite the idw cast to make them actually good
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>>562536961
Frontiers Combat is like a successor to DMC
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>>562537731
Short legs are definitely a big part of why I like them so much

I remember there was a picture of Kit trying to pin Surge to the wall using his little leg it was so cute

>>562537809
True I love happy Tails but I like seeing other expressions
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Why did Maekawa leave SEGA? What happened to him after Yuji Naka left?
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>>562537938
I can see the vision but why would gadget team up with Surge and Kit
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>>562538029
just remove them and focus on the superior game cast
>UUUUUU BUT SEGA MANDATES
IDW staff needs to stop bitching and do their job like professional adults
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>>562538120
Maekawa was demoted to the storybook games after 06. Since the storybook series died after just two games he only worked on Black Knight after that. Then he either left or was fired once Iizuka because the producer
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>>562537665
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>>562537907
What shadouge got to do with anything we're talking about Rails here?
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Are there any women here?
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>>562538321
I think he left on his own accord based on a Tweet he made but I don't have at with me at the moment
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>>562538268
Yeah this one
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>>562538415
you wouldn't believe me if I said yes, so no
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>>562538415
Women are racist
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>>562538120
He directs games and writes for the Rune Factory series now

>>562538321
I vaguely remember him saying last year that he left because he didn't like the types of story SEGA wanted from Sonic starting from Colors anymore, or something like that
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>>562538029
I have an entire project about this very idea and I could go on about it for hours, but I'll try and simplify it to fit the character limit
>Lanolin: just make her Squidward/Frank Grimes
>Tangle: make her an audience surrogate that Sonic mentors for the first dozen issues or so
>Surge: biggest fix so far, I'd make her have a split personality that switches between insane psychopath to NEET girlfailure. Think like a combo of STC Super Sonic and Power from Chainsaw Man. The Dynamo Cage no longer exists, she has the powers it gives from the start. Starline forces her to be a hero and she hates it, goes ballistic when Sonic tells her that he doesn't consider himself a hero (meaning all of her torture was for nothing).
>Whisper: make her and the rest of the Diamond Cutters an experimental GUN unit comprised entirely of blobians
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Tails is a jester now
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>>562538337
>talking about rails
And then this fag pivots it to team dark and catwoman.
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>>562538029
Whisper should be generally tougher and more distant; she has the right foundations as a character.
Some changes: She actually tries to shoot Eggman in the Zombot arc;
Delete that whole arc about having a breakdown because Tangle used her dead team's name or whatever, instead show her trying to bond with people other than Tangle, show her being afraid of getting too close but not afraid of actually talking, put some visual queues like she opens her eyes when she's relaxed or talks with the mask on to people she's less open to
Don't make her a Tangle clone in her flashback, that was really dumb.

Whisper's problems are literally because the writers are too Tumblr brained to treat a traumatized character like a person and not their precious OC who should be babied; it's like they haven't consumed enough media in their lives
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>>562538557
true, a LOT of IDWfags are women and IDWfags/Archiefags are unironically racist towards the Japanese.
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>>562538321
I think Iizuka became the leader of ST around 2007~08 and Black Knight was released in 2009. So, probably Maekawa didn't agree with the new direction and left on his own. He always looked like someone in more agreement with Naka, too.

>>562538705
I know that his new game is actually good.
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>>562538536
Nah, that image pretty much confirms your gender.
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>>562537792
Who drew this
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>>562538808
The issue with IDW is they try too hard to have their sequential narrative based comic but are stuck with making what should be drag and drop characters. Lanolin was a simple concept that got muddied because the writers wanted a complex character.
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>>562538904
Iizuka became the boss of ST in 2010, from 2006 to 2009 it was Akinori Nishiyama
Also I know for sure that Maekawa didn't decide to leave until 2009 at the earliest, since he said he still wasn't planning on leaving while working on Black Knight
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YO! What's good /sthg/! It's been a long time since I've been here! about 3 months! Life's been wild lately but I finally have some R and R and hungry for some Sonic content, what's been going on in big blue's world?
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>>562538904
No Iizuka became producer in 2009 after Black Knight was released. Nishiyama was the producer from 2007-2009 before he got promoted to a higher up position within Sega and stopped participating directly in game development

>>562538847
Cool, he's real now!
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>>562539156
Nothing.
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>>562539125
They tried to do a drag and drop with Soleil and that was a massive fumble. These writers cannot write for shit.
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>>562539156
Crossovers
Sometimes we get something cool in Blade of Courage but it's not much
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Nothing wrong with racism
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>>562539305
>>562539391
unfortunate! any news on a new main sonic game at least? I've gotten so good at Frontiers I can no damage the titans and do all the cyloop moves
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>>562539582
>any news on a new main sonic game at least?
I wish
At most we know of a Frontiers rerelease
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Okay here me out
SonicXThe Backrooms
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>>562538536
Do female Sonic fans want to fuck Sonic?
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>>562538415
*sigh* alright I'll show my tits....
https://files.catbox.moe/ah9wp3.jpg
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>>562539576
Today we had fun discussions, wish it was more like this
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>>562539310
And Megani. Don't forget about doggy Carol...
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>>562539582
>any news on a new main sonic game at least
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>>562539125
>Lanolin was a simple concept that got muddied because the writers wanted a complex character.
It's not that they wanted a complex character, it's that Evan didn't know how to handle her. Evan only knows how to write neurotic messes like Gold and Belle.
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>>562539879
I forgot about her. This comic is a graveyard for the few good ideas it gets
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>>562539868
Yeah it's nice
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>>562539726
yes
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Lanolin is like that pink haired leader of the Rebels in The Last Jedi
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>>562539879
Oh crap I knew her color scheme reminded me of something.
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>>562537019
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>>562537534
He definitely reeks of nicotine constantly. Probably sweats it.
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>>562539957
I'd like her writing if she didn't push her own fan fiction onto Silver. She should've made her own softboi OC since that's clearly the type of male protagonist she's comfortable with
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>>562540143
We gotta pull some Lanolin maneuvers, do some real damage.
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>>562539879
I really do wonder, are they gonna bother with her anymore? it doesn't seem like anyone in the fanbase latched on to her enough for her to be used again especially when we already have Rouge, Jet, Storm,Wave, Rough, Tumble, Infinite, Surge, Kit and Clutch for antagonistic forces in mini stories, I doubt outside of an eggman plot anyone on this list will ever be an antagonist for Sonic and his main ones, they seem regulated to Knuckles and the Chaotix stories, I'm almost certain she'll disappear like Soliel/Lunar and Clutches red shirts.
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>>562540287
Archie and the 06 dub convinced her and the general fandom that Silver was just like that. It's only in the last few years that people are realizing Silver is a hot-blooded more punk character and not 1:1 with Trunks.
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Why is Mania so insincere?
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>>562540567
When was the last time Rouge was antagonistic
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>>562532059
Imagine being Infinite working at some mid McDonalds in central city having to Serve his most hated Shadow who makes 150k a year from his field agent salary.
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>>562540567
Being unpopular hasn't stopped them from using any character before, see Nite and Don, Rough and Tumble, or even Belle
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>>562540691
Why are you still doing the falseflag thing even aftre being caugth
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>>562540576
DBZ comparisons always do more harm than good
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>>562540748
When was she ever antagonistic?
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>internally Sega is torn on budgets for upcoming games
>Stranger Than Heaven currently being the most expensive Sega game ever currently revealed and a live service game not revealed costing over $300 million
>Sega investors want them to keep going forward with it but the teams are discouraged from the massive amount of studios dying off from these risky investments
>currently their main ways of offsetting this is multiplatform development being a big focus with this gen every game they’re making can launch on all three platforms and marketing deals (Sony having Sonic, Nintendo having Yakuza, and Microsoft having Persona for example)
>one idea thrown around is to rebrand the live service game into a Phantasy Star game
>The current direction is to just make sure they have a buffer of money in the case it flops which isn’t going well with Crossworlds, Persona 3R Switch, and Yakuza Kiwami 3 under performing
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>>562540816
All these characters have niche fanbases
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>>562540567
IDW really needs more female villains. Most of the good side IDW characters are female and every villain besides Surge and Megani are male. Though funnily even if you include Zeena every female villain in the comic has also been green.
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>>562540875
It's up to Arzest to make another bargain bin Sonic game...
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>that one anon who likes Care Bears and Sonic
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HotShelter x Alota is sibling-coded
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Care Bears are more important than other Sonic characters
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>>562540875
Why is Sega like this
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>>562540147
>lilac is fang's and trip's daughter
>carol is related to someone who definitely met fang
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>>562540875
>live service game
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>>562538861
were you not paying attention was describing what Rouge IS the dark, haughty, bad bad girl, sex appeal character
She's in team Dark because she is a dark character
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>>562541187
How would you anons introduce Fiona to the main series?
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Care Bears, Teletubbies and Hello Kitty ganging up on Sonic
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>>562541298
I love the aesthetics of Freedom Planet 1. I always pictured a Blaze solo game looking like it.
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>>562541425
Make her a punk girl Surge meets by chance and they quickly become troublemaking friends. But Fiona is actively malicious and sets up Surge to adventures where they hurt people and Surge feels conflicted if she likes doing that or not
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>>562540875
Stranger than Heaven has a budget of $140 million currently
By comparison the Yakuza games have never broken $100 million in budget before, Sonic and Persona games average around $50 million max
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>>562541441
Like this?
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>>562541425
She's just a fox-person that goes down a bad path. She doesn't have anything complicated to work with.
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>>562541676
Dadow having his father-son bonding fantasies?
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SegaSammy should make more Sonic pachislots
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>>562541827
they havent made any
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How would you do a Sonic equivalent without violating the lore.
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>>562541882
There's an SA2 one
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>>562541891
Context? I never watched Dragon Ball
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Why is 06 so good?
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Jesus why didn’t Sonic get an Amiibo this detailed?
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>>562541993
Sonic doesn't deserve nice things.
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>>562541891
The source of Shadow's hedgehog DNA
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>>562541425
I would rather bring in Manic or Uncle Chuck but idk, make her Zooey's evil twin or someshit
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>>562541425
Take her backstory from >>562538730 and link it to SegaSonic.
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>>562541964
That's Goku's dad
He was basically a space pirate like everyone in his race, one day after raiding a planet he gets blessed with the ability to see snippets of the future and discovers a plot that the main bad guy was going to genocide his race and destroy their planet, and spends the last hours of his life trying to stop him against impossible odds while having visions his own son Goku would be the one to defeat the bad guy in the future
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>>562541964
https://youtu.be/kDqbMaJmF_o
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>>562541981
The stages are mostly well designed, Sonic has a good moveset, the mach speed sections are exciting, the locations are nice and varied, and in the story Sonic and Shadow are cool and inspiring in their behavior, and Elise has a nice character arc and some of the cutscenes have cool action
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>>562542227
Sonic having a dad or parents is OOC
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>>562541891
Mighty
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>>562541891
"literally just the main character but edgy and from the past" gee wiz that's a toughie
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>>562541646
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>>562541891
You can't. The movies already did it the best way possible and that would still break Game Sonic if it were imported
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>>562542227
That's the good version. The new canon Toriyama version is that he was a heroic space barbarian and his wife was a gentle kind soul and he wished for his sons to have a prosperous life.
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>>562542494
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>>562542426
>Shadow is Silver's dad
>Shadow is Sonic's dad, too
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>>562541891
turn the movie version of Sonic's mother into a game character and make her be the bardock of the sonic games, put whatever new villain the devs want to present as the frieza equivalent
>>562542227
If Bardock had his future vision come up like that, then does Goku have that dormant ability too?
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>>562542227
>>562542635
Not gonna lie, Goku's parents make a cute couple.
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>>562542426
pudgy hedgies
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>>562542345
Longclaw worked as Movie Sonic's Bio-mother
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When will sega ape fusions from dbz like they did with super forms?
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>>562542717
>If Bardock had his future vision come up like that, then does Goku have that dormant ability too?
Bardock got it after he was already born. It was given to him by an alien he killed as a final fuck you.
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FREIZAAAAAAAA
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>>562541993
Genuinly could be decades before Sonic is a big enough deal on Nintendo again to get a figure made
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>>562541891
>>562542568
On second thought, the one way you could get away with it is with the Hero of the mural
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>>562542853
She was his adoptive mother.
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>>562542950
*Freezer
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>>562542635
I consider Toriyama's canon finished with EoZ and Toei's canon finished with GT so I refuse that
>>562542717
Well no, Bardock got that because an alien he was fighting gave him brain damage. But Goku does some psychic shit sometimes like talk with telepathy.
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>>562542829
The Toriyama version is so fucking retarded did he forget that Saiyans were supposed to be bad guys?
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>>562542170
So is Terios the Naked Snake/ Big Boss of the series?
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>>562542853
Movie Sonic is OOC. What's not to understand?
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>>562542672
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>>562543076
>did he forget that Saiyans were supposed to be bad guys
Weren't they forced to become planet destroying maniacs because of Frieza's dad? It's not like they did it by themselves.
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>>562543046
why can't you let him be happy
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>>562543042
not necessarily, interspecies relationships could very well exist within the sonic worlds, sonic's father coulda been a hedgehog that fucked longclaw once then abandoned her and itd still work
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>>562538029
Put Whisper in team Dark
Make Lanolin the GUN commander's secretary/coffee lady
Have Tangle be one of Amy gym friends
Make Surge the Anti-Amy not the Anti-Sonic
And most important Never let them interact with each other, only the main cast
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>>562542345
I love how Sonic having literally anything beyond that one line in SA2 is considered out of character by these retards.
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>>562543247
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>>562543454
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>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH I WANT MY MOMMYYYYY
this is such good sonic characterization, sonic needs to be like this
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>>562543076
>did he forget
Yeah. A lot.
Dragon Ball is a mess but Toriyama was so talented he still wrote an iconic manga by just winging shit he thought it was cool on a weekly basis. I wish Sonic despite its mess had a fraction of that talent put into.
>>562543269
Sorta, but they were savage prideful ooga booga space cavemen before Frieza anyway. Goku being a good guy with an earthling's spirit was always supposed to make him an outlier in his own race.
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>>562543076
They still have to have some kind of functioning society they can't have everyone be a warrior
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>>562543427
I'm kind of fine with sonic characters having a looney tunes-esque job system if they don't do the "haha woah this is like real life!!" schtick.
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>>562538518
>>562538705
>>562539152
>>562539219
Wow. So Iizuka just fucking sucks ans sold out the franchise from day 1. He needs to leave. The one who has been allowing the Sonic series to lose its identity has been him the whole time. No wonder the west glazes him.
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Don't get shaken
Don't drop your guard
Stay fully alert.
Don't get distracted for a single moment.
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>>562543061
brain damage doesnt grant you new abilities, if it was, then sonic wouldve learnt a bunch of abilities with the amount of times he falls down (even in sonic unleashed he drops from a high distance onto his head), it's possible that psychic bullshit is simply something that goku's family tree got from somewhere but it lays dormant, and Bardock's brain damage simply made his future vision spiral out of control, making it more visible than ever. goku obviously hasnt suffered permanent serious damage like bardock considering the fact that senzu beans kept healing him up flawlessly
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>>562543881
I doubt it's his fault, for all of the 2010s SoA had more power than SoJ. He said Sonic Team was struggling to survive during that time, and he also said he didn't like Boom.
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Silver SHAT himself....
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>>562543723
Colonizers are still an actual society, which the saiyans are by nature.
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>>562539310
With IDW being "canon" these characters are created and written to one day appear in a Sonic game. Nothing with actual substance. Writers now just await for their OC to appear in a game.
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Everyone talks about the west making Sonic suck but Dragonball became lame compared to its older self under its own creator. Maybe that's just the nature of everything: to start sucking and to become weak as time goes on
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I think it would be in character if Tails was trans.
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>>562544289
Entropy.
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>>562544289
you eventually run out of creative juice
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>whiteboard
Silver's anitsemitic?
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>>562543428
Cope. Sonic canonically has no parents. Does that scare you?
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>>562544432
Yes? Next question
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>>562544287
not all of them, everybody Tangle listed off in tailstube has a shot, so Jewel, Lanolin, Surge, Kit, Belle maybe even Clutch have a shot at being in a game or a story someday but not Megumi, Rough, Tumble, Starline, Nite,Dawn, Solilie/Lunar

speaking of that, does anyone have the pictures? a few of those pics look like stuff that actually happened in the comics like the Belle one being from Test Run, I don't remember Tangle even meeting surge and kit outside of the shitty race arc
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>>562544289
Father of shounen, but also the father of the original sin of shounen.
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>>562544053
>for all of the 2010s SoA had more power than SoJ.
Because he let it happen. He STILL lets it happen.
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Chao gacha
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>>562544627
Or maybe it's everyone else. What do you think of Ohshima's statement, "Iizuka is fighting alone"?
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>>562544542
I barely want any of those characters in the game. And all those other ones will appear because of IDW's "canon" status and its all supposed to be connected.
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>>562544289
we all become weak old men one day
you need a successor to maintain the flame
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>>562543638
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>>562544138
and Colonizers still need shopkeepers, doctors, chiefs, framers, truck drivers and people to do all kinds of other worker bee jobs besides fighting you can't trust slaves to do that kind of work
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>>562544627
>>562544752
This just goes to show how burgers need to be tamed and wrangled by the japs lest they completely destroy this franchise. If SoA had their way then this series would be unrecognizably dogshit, far worse than we can even imagine in this reality.
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>>562544875
>Ohshima
The guy Naka considers a snake?

Anyway, Iizuka is fighting nothin'. The series has become increasingly soulless under him and SoA is allowed to do whatever.
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>>562544987
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>>562545116
This was meant for >>562544752
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>>562544432
Everyone is these days
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>>562545116
If that were true we never would have gotten vocal tracks back, it would still be like Lost World
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>>562545181
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"People who stick to the canon are an in-group" is a pathetic take.
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>>562545057
If they had their way SatAM and/or Archie would have the same or even bigger status that IDW has now. We wouldn't even have Sonic Adventure 1 & 2.
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Sonic.exe is just a representation of Sonic's younger audience wanting to distance themselves from the real Sonic because current "canon" content is dogshit
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>>562545395
they are secretly insecure and hurt that they're not included in this in-group so they lash out in 'tism rage. just ignore it
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>>562545374
NTA but the most likely answer is that Sonic Team fought for those lyrics to be brought back, since Lost World and Boom flopped.
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>>562545590
Yes that's the point
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>>562545374
Whatever fight Iizuka allegedly had is clearly gone now. Now Sonic is just the IDW and Lore Team franchise, which is slop.
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>>562545395
Reminds me of this. IDWfags literally behave this way.
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>>562545686
The only western input on Superstars was some of the tracks being composed by Tee Lopes, and a YouTube animation
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Sonic under Iizuka always felt aimless and clueless
Sonic is an orphan franchise none of its creators actually know what to do with it
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>>562545783
ddue , every single group behaves this way every single fucking one I'm old enough to remember when classicfags ran this place and now they've been chased out by SA2fags and now IDWfags will be chase out the SA2fags and the cycle will continue just like IRL the only thing that's final is death once this general dies it'll be over
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>>562545746
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>>562545746
This is EXACTLY how IDW fans behave. If it wasn't canon they could have their "Deeper and richer Sonic" all they fucking want.
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>>562545856
>There isn't a single person involved in the Sonic franchise that knows what to do with the games and/or characters
This is actually fucking miserable
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>>562545557
The trvth nvke that needs to be constantly dropped is Sonic needs story and edge. It doesn't matter how polished the gameplay was after 2009 compared to previous years, you need something to talk about.
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>>562545932
i can't wait for the sweet release of death... /sthg/ please die soon... we're one of the most elderly generals on here
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>>562545957
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Silver will redeem this franchise
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When you say Sonic shouldn't cry, IDWfags start talking about toxic masculinity. I'm not wasting my time on these Owl House drunk secondaries. They are literally just incorrect. They have the kind of mindset that lead to "Superman can't just be a hero of justice, he needs to be grounded and serious" nonsense.
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>>562545395
They're the same people who complain about "gatekeeping".
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Since they're doing Frontiers Definitive Edition, there's still a chance for Superstars Plus
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does anyone have that one fanart of shadow staring at sonic unsettled while sonic asks him whats wrong? i think the idea was that shadow was disturbed at looking so similar to sonic and being nothing alike. im not good at describing it but that was the gist i think. did i just hallucinate this or something because i swear i saw it here and it went extremely hard but i didnt save it
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>>562546173
Superman is still Superman but he still has feelings and sometimes fails and cries and gets angry
Windfags want Sonic to be a god who doesn't even have the six basic emotions every human is born with
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>>562546493
Sonic does get sad and angry though. You just don't like it because you expect him to bawl his eyes out.
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>>562546323
They're not going to make one after officially stating that the game was a disappointment + mostly negative reception
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Takashi Iizuka, Morio Kishimoto, Ian Flynn, Evan Stanley, and everyone else at IDW and the Scam Te-I mean LORE Team need to LEAVE this franchise.
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>>562546173
Sonic is supposed to be a free person, not a superman allegory who's perfect at shit nor an overly emotional crybaby, he doesnt mind being the bad guy sometimes, he just does what comes naturally, he wouldnt dwell on past mistakes, he focuses on the present.
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>>562546345
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>>562546493
Sonic is supposed to be larger than life, not your next door neighbor.
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>UUUUUUU I HAVE A BOO-BOO... TAILS PLEASE HELP ME... IT HURTS.... UWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
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>>562546621
2020s Sonic is a joint project between the mafia (making a hellokitty platformer is not hard) and israel (hellokitty platformers should be inclusive and gay)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjytuG2iGr4
Was this scene in character?
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>westshitters have to fake another moon trip
Pathetic
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>>562546173
It's not even that Sonic isn't allowed to cry it's the fact they can't turn him into a basedjak reaction image without Sega politely yet firmly telling them, No.
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>>562546635
Alright then, What is Sonic's character actually based off. Since even flat characters like Goku have a backstory and obvious flaws.
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>>562541068
Me! This is so cute.
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>>562546493
>Windfags want Sonic to be a god who doesn't even have the six basic emotions every human is born with
Do you hear yourself?
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>>562546902
cnc cnc
cnc cnc
gay gay
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>>562546635
>he doesnt mind being the bad guy sometimes
>if he is the bad guy, he's actually the good guy and did nothing bad after all, because that would be too much for kids to handle
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People want Sonic to be "relatable" want him to lose all emotional maturity and become an infantile, insecure fuckup, but is also very condescending and preachy morally. Basically some kind of hypocritical manchild.
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>shadow... I'm pregnant... uwwwwaaaaaaa... it's kicking...
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The franchise feels aimless and clueless because the games, movies, and animated series don't have a consistent tone. Some are dark and some are kiddy. Frontiers, the Paramount movies, Sonic Prime, Sonic Rumble are all tonally dissonant. The random crossover slop just accentuates that
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>>562546850
Westfags really complained that Sonic having more reserved reactions is bad
.they hate subtlety
They are lucky that Sonic even had children to lose. They had the audacity to call Sega too strict.


Sega isn't strict ENOUGH. That's how we got prime Sonic and Uwuver
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Genned some Ames
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>>562539125
>Lanolin was a simple concept
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>>562547052
There's no emotional maturity message from a character who cannot even have palpable problems a real person has in the first place
Sonic has no parents lives nowhere doesn't get mad doesn't have a reason to cry he's too detached from everything he can stay alone forever and only appear when he feels like it doesn't have to commit to anything, has no obligations, has no family, he has nothing and needs nothing
Sonic doesn't qualify as a person
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I wish IDW.writrrsndidnt use social media so their fans wouldn't feel the need to coddle them
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>>562547373
>writrrsndidnt
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>>562547001
that's mostly a sega problem, they never craft a situation where Sonic's actually in the wrong and isnt just a morally grey nuanced situation where it's understandable for anybody to react the way he does,
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>>562539125
>>562547260
They literally should've just kept the civilian shtick with her. That's more unique than another girlboss hero.
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>>562546598
It sold better than Mania.
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>>562547425
pretty common word you would know if you were EFL
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>>562546706
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*headpats your OC*
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>>562530970
girls treat tails like a baby because they want to be his mommy, men treat tails like their younger brother and want to see him succeed
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>>562547362
What do you mean "message"? That's just how Sonic is supposed to be. I'm sorry your heroes have to be social and emotional disasters for you to look up to them. I wouldn't feel safe with that kind of hero.
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>>562546910
>What is Sonic's character actually based off.
Peter Pan, Santa Claus, Kenshiro and Piccolo.
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>>562547440
why do they need to? why do YOU feel a need to see a situation where Sonic is in the wrong? is it somehow inferior storytelling to show Sonic being in the right?

the idea of Sonic not caring about morality just informs his decisions and helps you understand his motivations better. it's not meant to be setup for a "OMG HE'S SECRETLY AN EVIL VILLAIN" reveal.
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>>562546910
I do agree that Sonic should have flaws but him being an overly emotional baby is not the way to do it, you can write a character with flaws that doesnt cross the line to losing his appeal.
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Is it really that hard to write Sonic using only what is established in the games?
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>>562529328
I came
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>>562547731
If Sonic is trying to make a statement by being in the right, I think it weakens the message if he's not subjected to any condition that actually hurts him
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>>562547475
Of course westshit flops
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>>562546902
>half-lid shit
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>>562547529
>>562547765
No
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>>562547765
no, but I'm not gonna do it
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>my period cramps hurt.... uuuuuuuuuu...
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>>562547874
Mania is a game made by JPfag fans, anon. If they were actually westards we would be seeing ham-fisted shitam references everywhere.
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>>562547536
You should wash your hands.
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>>562547731
a situation where Sonic is in the wrong doesnt mean he would be an evil villain, see Knuckles, he's driven to act the way he does in sonic 3 because of the information he was given, why cant sonic have a situation like that? he doesnt care about morality but is somehow always in the right everytime he acts and never gets anything wrong??
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Why do you like Sonic when you hate his entire personality and way of life? Did you play every Sonic game getting angry every time you played as him or when he was on screen?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtlObqX8tJ8
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>>562547865
>If Sonic is trying to make a statement
He isn't.
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>>562548087
IDW fans must hate that Sonic didn't start crying in the end of sa2
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>Lanolin should be like the Exposition Guy from Wordgirl

https://youtu.be/NSbxkyzd54s?si=gxXKOIaY-I6XMC2U
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>>562548087
they literally just hate sonic and want him to suffer, it's a fetish for them and for Flynn fans, hence why they love torture porn metal virus writing
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>>562547678
>Peter Pan who Has a Back story
>Santa Claus who Has a Back story
>Kenshiro who Has a back story
>Piccolo who Has a backstory
And yet Sonic lacks a cannon backstory
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>>562548253
The meta virus arc was drawn out and overrated. IDW was never good.
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>>562548273
Does Mickey Mouse have a backstory? Does Bugs Bunny?
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>>562548273
>mostly westshit
Who cares
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>>562546807
This is what Evan wants in all her characters. At least when Shadow cries is over someone that matters to him.
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>>562548067
you think sonic should do that just because knuckles did that? why does sonic have to do that too to be a good character in your eyes? of course they posit him as the good guy when he's the protagonist and you have to root for him to want to play as him.
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>>562548253
>they literally just hate sonic and want him to suffer
Worked for Spider-Man
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Everything's shit and it won't get any better
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>>562547052
That's how all Amerimutts view each other. Extremely chauvinistic culture.
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>>562548273
Why does Sonic need a backstory? Does his actions and character not speak about him enough for you?
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>>562548696
Hi, is it resurrection yet?
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>TAILS THE MICROWAVE IS BEEPING I'M SCARED... PLEASE HELP ME UUUUU
>sonic, your food is ready
>oh...
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>>562548521
If SEGA wants to hire decent American writers, they need a have a whole stack portfolio of all their written works, not just show knowledge of the universe material.
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Westies have never ever brought anything of value to humanity.
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>>562548825
Just a fan of context. No one needs Sonic's parents to have died in a fire. Some shit like his family found out he had chaos induced super speed and they helped train him to become a hero before he left home for endless adventures would be enough for the most part.
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>>562548521
what is this
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>>562548742
>Chauvinistic describes an unreasonable, exaggerated, or aggressive belief in the superiority of one’s own group
Describes IDW fans perfectly.
>inb4 ironic
JP fans aren't the ones doing strawman windnic memes
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Sonic doesn't need an origin story. His entire story starts in medias res, like Stick's story should have.
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>>562548386
metal virus has no themes or underlying meaning behind the writing. it's just characters dying every issue to touch your fee-fees. sonic and silver going super in the end and defeating giga zavok is just hype and aura and nothing else. it's the most dogshit slop you can read.
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>>562548893
Ian's the kind of guy who probably read the trivia sections of the Sonic Wiki and that was enough to trick people into thinking he was some devoted fan.
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>>562549264
>themes or underlying meaning
Aren' those the same
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>>562548828
resurrection?
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>>562549149
>Some shit like his family found out he had chaos induced super speed and they helped train him to become a hero before he left home for endless adventures would be enough for the most part.
We don't need this. It doesn't add anything.
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>>562548893
I trust the person who made those to do a compelling narrative, but not one that's Sega safe. Too much rape and suicide jokes.
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>>562548735
Blog posting about your shitty life won’t fix anything, Woefag
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>>562548454
Don't let Piccolo here you say that, or he might find out you havent taken your daily dose yet
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>>562548616
the protagonist being misinformed or in the wrong doesnt stop him from being a bad guy, protagonists can be nuanced, otherwise itd be like claiming that you cant root for spiderman because of his symbiote arc moments, besides, being in the wrong was never stopping anybody from playing as the one in the wrong, Knuckles is duped by eggman into fighting sonic in sonic adventure and people still play as him, the dark story in sa2 is literally you playing as the bad guys, and shadow the hedgehog lets you turn shadow into a world-destroying villain, assistant to the world-destroying villain if you dont go all in with pure dark, or simply an anti hero that kills eggman, and people still like shadow. the franchise itself proves that people will root for and play as the flawed or straight up evil characters! Sonic will survive having a few flaws and situations where he's in the wrong, mario sometimes had those as well and he's doing fine, why not sonic?
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>>562549194
they're some slides that an anon made while trying to figure out what Sonic's canon personality is like based off the video games.
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>>562549513
who
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How do we get rid of aosth, satam, fleetway, archie, underground, boom, movie, idw, prime niggers?
How do we beat them to death for getting Sonic wrong?
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Sonic doesn't need a backstory since his character is about enjoying what's happening now and in front of you. Shadow might be more down your alley if you want a fast Hedgehog who has a backstory that explains who he is.
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>>562549742
This is correct
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>>562549264
No lies detected.
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>>562549542
stop him from being a good guy* i need sleep
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>>562549542
>Sonic will survive having a few flaws
he already has flaws. he can't swim and he struggles with something in almost every Sonic game before eventually overcoming the problem in the end. the companion characters in the storybook games get mad at him for not taking shit seriously enough.
>why not sonic?
I'm asking YOU why should sonic do this just because other characters do it? Sonic is a different character and doesn't NEED to be like them.
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>>562549317
Because it was enough. That's the damning thing.
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>>562549264
None of Ian's stories have themes or meaning. It's just shit happening until Ian decides that's enough and everything immediately wraps itself up. Pure slop writer.
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>>562548893
>If SEGA wants to hire decent American writers, they need a have a whole stack portfolio of all their written works
So like Ghosts of the Future?
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>>562549573
Don’t act fucking dumb
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>west
>good writing, culture, art, ever good in history
Lmao
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>>562549742
I like Shadow because of his tragic story. I like Sonic more because he is seen doing what he is described as which is an adventurer. Shadow doesn't do enough regarding his tragic story for me, and that goes quadruple for Silver.
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>>562550142
it's funny how I've seen no IDW fan in existence try to refute this point
they really don't care about the writing
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>>562550195
And Ian has that Other M comic and that Sonic x Teletubbies crossover fic.
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>>562549742
if anything it only make sense for Sonic to have a really boring backstory, like his dad was deputy manager of a small town accounting firm who won the tornado in a company raffle or something like that
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>>562550463
TELL YOUR TITS TO STOP STARING AT MY EYES
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>>562550392
Themes don't matter, the only thing that matters is that events make logical sense on a timeline and could happen in real life
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>>562549991
ah yes, such "flaws" as, not being able to do everything and the typical story trope that most protagonists go through anyways, even goku and superman went through those at some point.
>>562549991
theyre examples of why Sonic can be flawed without having to be in the right all the time and have it work fine, i'm not saying he should be like other characters, i'm saying that he should have flaws and be a hero on his own way even if imperfect at times rather than being the holy grail of perfection that couldnt possibly be wrong on what actions he chooses to take.
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>>562550371
>Shadow doesn't do enough regarding his tragic story for me
Brother, his debute game was all about his backstory, and then his spinoff game, and then his Generations story. What more do you need?
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The most disgusting where the 3x3 full of westshit ip.
General full of westniggers.
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>>562547440
>they never craft a situation where Sonic's actually in the wrong

Not true.
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>>562549264
metal virus does indeed have themes
it's about faith, about overcoming difficulties no matter how badly things goes wrong
but going super yeah, that's bullcrap, it's always like the culmination of this since silver didn't do that much and he didn't lose anything
aside from the future but it's sir not appearing in this film, or even this franchise
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>>562550371
>and that goes quadruple for Silver.
thats cus 06 sucked so hard they sidelined him afterwards
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>>562549264
>themes or underlying meaning
It's Sonic the fucking hedgehog.
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>>562550618
>spin-off
It's a mainline entry.
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Falseflag-kun going into autism overdrive ITT.
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>>562550730
*no matter how badly things go wrong
*it (going super) is always the culmination of the themes that game has, but metal virus doesn't have that since silver didn't do that much
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>>562550810
I was using the word to describe another character having their own game and subseries. But yes, it is a mainline game.
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>Tails is given character flaw he never had before
>everyone gets mad
>Sonic is not given new character flaws
>everyone cries and says he's a gary stu
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>>562550783
Kys westcuck
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>>562550802
You have not played a single Sonic game in your life, so I suggest you shut your trap.
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>>562550730
>silver didn't do that much and he didn't lose anything aside from the future
Are we dead ass, just say you want Blaze or Shadow to be there
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>>562550615
i never said Sonic shouldn't have flaws this is a different argument. he already has flaws like I mentioned, doesn't matter how generic they may seem to you. Sonic also fucked up in Lost World pretty massively with his impulsiveness but no one brings that up. or my point about how Caliburn/Shahra get annoyed with Sonic's recklessness all the time that you didn't mention. or his classic impatience like when he taps his foot from the first game in the entire series. I guess none of these count though because they're not up to your specific standards on what Sonic's flaws should entail, right?
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>>562551021
Are you talking about Forces? That was because Tails "already beat Chaos 4" even though the point of that scene was to show that he had become a high strung scaredy cat, it was just really badly executed like the rest of the game.
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>>562550658
Not all of us had western IPs, I had a vastly different list compared to most. >>561595736
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>>562551161
Yeah, Metal Virus would have been a fine idea for a SSS story
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>>562550802
damn you should tell that to the writers for the games then
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>>562551079
I don't know why a Sonic story needs to have "underlying themes" as the ultimate factor and can't just be an adventure. Even so Metal Virus did have themes, forgiveness and the consequences of giving second chances.
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>>562551067
Your first falseflaggot.
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Why don't IDW fans stay in their lane and stop trying to act knowledgeable about the series when their only reference is a comic that hasn't been around for even half the years as the mainline series and gets everything wrong?
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>IDWfag ITT defending the metal virus by discrediting the art of storytelling and basic story structure because it's "Sonic the Hedgehog"
case in fucking point, they don't care about good writing
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>>562551021
>>Tails is given character flaw he never had before
>>everyone gets mad

Nobody complained about SA1 giving Tails new insecurities he never had in the Classic games.
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I want to slit west faggots throats for ruining Sonic
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>>562548521
It's funny to me that the guy who wrote a comic where Ash kills himself over Tails and Mina has a strong record for the official stuff
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>>562551454
>falseflaggot
I like this word now lol
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>>562550456
Exactly wtf I mean. But again, better writers are more expensive, and given SEGA's track record I don't think they want to spend more.
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>>562550802
And the fact that even basic shit like, believe in yourself, love is an adventure, the real treasure is the friends we made along the way, is Still to complex and highbrow for a writer whose allegedly been writing these characters for near enough two decades genuinely staggering.
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>>562551881
Anon, westerners as a race are incapable of good writing.
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>>562550814
Holy sex
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>>562551881
>Sega is willing to sacrifice writing quality just to save money they'd rather give to alphabet mafia NGOs because Sega wants more ESG money and brownie points from social media activists
Is it any wonder why Ian still hasn't been fired despite all the unprofessional and bad stuff he's done?
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Shadow should say Maria's name as often as Wonder Woman says "Hera, give me strength!"
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>>562552053
That's not true. They used to be better, but current structure and policies disincentivize it. Americans have been made out to be suckers.
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>>562551161
Blaze would have been a huge problem for everyone in the Metal Virus arc. Her powers generate intense heat, which can disintegrate the virus, but unfortunately, that same heat would also destroy the cells of the host. This means her attacks wouldn’t just neutralize infected individuals; they would kill them, with no chance of recovery afterward. That’s only if she remained uninfected though. Now imagine if she herself got contaminated, that’s where things get really tricky, especially with the viruses natural ability to evolve.

First, it’s impossible to assume she could hold the virus back the way Sonic did. That seems to be a unique ability of Sonic’s even Shadow the Ultimate Lifeform couldn’t suppress the virus for long. So Blaze certainly couldn’t decontaminate herself using her own powers, since the virus would be far stronger than her ability to fight it off. But let’s say the plot favors her, and her powers can actually harm the virus enough to slow it down. In that case, it would likely lead to the worst possible outcome: given enough time, the virus would have a chance to evolve into a new strain that is completely adapted to withstand massive amounts of heat. By the end of the arc, that evolved virus would be utterly unkillable even when being thrown at the sun and could survive to strike again in the near future.
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>>562552129
Brother, Ian is still around because he's cheap just like Roger Craig Smith. If you want quality you need to make Sega stop being nickel pinchers
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>>562551197
flaws like being a bit too quirky or impatient can barely be considered a noteworthy flaw, small flaws and bigger flaws are different, if he's always in the right, everything he does is right, and most of his "flaws" can be classified as not being able to literally do everything, then how would that be any different than just plain perfection? He's impatient, but that never got him into trouble directly or indirectly caused by him, he can't swim, but that hasnt stopped him before, at worst he can simply run really fast over the water to cross it. an actual flaw should be that it actually worsens the situation a bit more than it would've if he didnt have said flaw, if a character's flaw is so insignificant that its absence would result in "story happens and ends the same way but its a little bit easier now lol", then could it really be considered an actual flaw?
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>>562552053
holy based
>>562552129
sega doesn't care and the american fanbase sucks up to ian too much. same with the IDW staff despite having a known scammer on board
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>>562552336
They have been always inferior to japanese masters
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>>562552214
The manga should be made 80% cannon, mostly so Shadow can call Sonic Nicholas in the same vain Vegeta calls Goku Kakarot.
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>the only IDW writers who don't get shit on for mischaracterization are Daniel Barnes and Ian Jones-Quartey

If you account for those two then the common denominator for every official writer who didn't write Sonic as "le wind" is that they're all white.
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>>562552890
Team Dark
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>>562552890
Shadow, Rouge, and Omega?
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When you notice every single thing wrong with sonic is because of America suddenly their collapse isn't as scary, the world is healing, Sonic will be good again when he has to change to appeal to his home market now that the shitty foreign one implodes on itself.

Prove me wrong.
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>>562552890
The Babylon Rouges!
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>>562552528
ah, so you think he DOES have flaws but they aren't noteworthy.
why should any of these flaws "stop" Sonic? the point of Sonic is that he's unstoppable, it's inspirational and creates a positive influence on the children that play his games. he doesn't let his flaws stop him from achieving his goals.
and yes, Sonic did worsen the situation in Lost World, so they literally already did what you are asking for.
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>>562552890
Who's the girl in this trio?
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>>562552890
>>562552996
Team Rose as well
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>>562552996
>>562553002
>>562553047
robots arent real boys and they arent real girls either
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Romhack slop like Mania and woke shit like IDW being canon while making not cannon BoC was disgrace for this franchise.
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>>562552890
where is the girl in the top trio?
>Sonic
>Tails
>Sally
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>>562549397
The day The Lord woke up from the dead.
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>>562553191
Why isn't Nami there?
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>>562549194
Chroniclesfag made them as a personal character study on every character and is fixing them up to share. I'm waiting for him to hurry up because comicshitters are annoying.
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>>562553191
Sanji
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06 was west sabotage
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NIIIGGAAA
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>>562533665
Its just one perpetually bitter poster that comes here daily
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Why are there so many Sonic fans that hate Sonic?
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>>562553204
would be pretty weird if they made Boards of Canada canon to Sonic. They're a music band.
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>>562553197
I didn't know Big was a girl
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>>562553417
Kys westie
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>>562553412
they got in via the gay hellokitty stuff then found that it wasn't originally gay hellokitty so they think it should all be gay hellokitty
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Why are there so many Sonic fans that hate themselves?
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>>562553276
technically Nami joined after Usopp so she'd be 5th
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>>562553505
More of a Squarepusher fan?
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>>562553276
Zoro got lost and took her spot
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after posting the same complaints every single day does it reach the point where you're just going through the motions and don't even feel the emotions that your text would normally imply
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>>562553556
-Technically- she came first after Zoro, so she absolutely should be there, especially since her arc of being introduced to officially joining took so long.
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>>562553412
making fave suffer is not hating them, otherwise, i guess all of media making their characters go through hardships means they all secretly hate their own characters by your logic
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Anyone who post westshit or makes fanart of it should be beheaded.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zXKtfKnfT8
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>>562552527
>We can't have voice actors that sound like Jason Griffith and Lisa Ortiz because Sega is greedy
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GET OUT WESTFAGGOTS
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>>562553736
But they hate Sonic because they want him to be completely different than what he is, otherwise he's a bad character. Therefore, they dislike Sonic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNBjMRvOB5M
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It's obvious that Sonic Prime is meant to be canon because the abrupt ending is clearly done so that the show doesn't break the status quo of the games.
>but what about the billion plot holes
they don't care. They only cared enough to write out the multiverse explosion and nothing else.
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>>562552816
>mostly so Shadow can call Sonic Nicholas
Nicky is short for Sonic. Pauly named his son after his son's future self, Sonic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsO6ZnUZI0g
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>>562551129
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>>562554119
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Sonic got colonized which is why shit like IDW and Casefiles is canon but not BoC. Sonic has an anti-JP bias now.
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"I'm Sonic, Sonic the Hedgehog!" is a 2000s only thing
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>>562554467
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Communicate to all sonicsissies

Sonic 2 takes place in WEST Island

cope and mald

WEST SIIIIDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzRqEWJYwX4
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>>562554568
Yeah he's kind of like a dog
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>>562553663
I refuse to go hollow.
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>>562554250
>toxic masculinity

Dont they have an AU where Tails abuses and grooms Kit into loving him meanwhile the two female characters he did that to fall in love with eachother because they started hating men?
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>>562554729
https://www.deviantart.com/domesticmaid/art/Sonic-as-Scooby-Doo-962812941
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Are you the enemy leader?
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>>562554784
I don't pay attention to what retards on twitter are doing but I'm not surprised
they're pro-rape anyways considering they think men having physical boundaries is misogynist
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>>562554787
I mean idk what Scooby and Tails have in common
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>>562552816
There is a nonzero chance that Oshima watched Moonwalker before making Sonic.

https://youtu.be/Ay3pO7CkkpQ?si=Ul4wUTnjIcWqLwOC
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>>562554787
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There is no bigger plot hole than the unshattered moon in Shadow 05
And it was done by Sonic Team
They allowed it
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Sonic is just a never ending cycle of years of doing something good, years of doing something shit, and then years of apologizing
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>>562554936
Tails fits the role of dog companion.
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>>562554997
The biggest plot hole is the emerald Silver gives to Elise
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>>562554936
Sonic and Tails petplay>>562554568
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My heart aches from the hatred in all of you
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>>562554936
They both raped shitdow.
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>>562555149
Eh not really it doesn't effect anything, it's just an extra emerald that is out there, you diffinetally heard that one before.
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>>562555192
That's like comparing Tails to Jake the Dog it doesn't make any sense
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>>562555202
get the fuck out. you people treat us like this >>562545783
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I'm not even hating at this point. Why is it like this every time? I don't even read IDW so I can't hate it but they are literally all like this.
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>>562553556
Sonic groups with this feel?
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>>562555202
I try my best to not be hateful
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>>562555149
No, dumbass. There's just 2 blue emeralds existing simultaneously until one becomes the other.
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>>562555467
it's hilarious how insecure idwfags are about BoC.
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My hatred of westniggers grows everyday.
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Neon Suits
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>>562554091
>Paulie named his son after his son's future self, Sonic
Maybe he did on a meta level, but legally it makes no sense. I could believe he chose to name his Son Nick in honor of the sprit dude who saved him, but not by literally putting the name Sonic on his birth certificate as that would no doubt piss his wife of. That being said, when Sonic starts running around town being a cool hero, he should be the one who coins calling him Sonic at that moment.
Also minor thing, how is it that most animal characters are called X the X but Amy and Tails have regular first and last names like us humans? Amy is also known as Rosie the Rascal so is it just a title thing? Do half the cast have real names that no one knows about?
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>>562555413
You know what my heart doesn't ache anymore fuck you.
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my heart swells with joy when nonnies post their favorite characters!
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>>562555510
>>562555347
It literally contradicts any other game because it says that Elise had the blue emerald the whole time even though we see it in like 20 games that take place before 06
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>DAAAAAAAD I wanted chicken nuggies! where are my chicken nuggies... uuuuuuuuuuu....
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>mania good
>00s games bad
Why are westshitters like this?
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>>562555512
motherfucker what the FUCK is boc

>>562555591
WEST SIIIIIIDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qC3w3UUkU
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>>562555354
The joke is that Tails acts like Sonic’s dog sometimes it’s not complicated
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Bun!
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>>562555467
>autistic/LGBT
I have a feeling she's neither of them and is just using them as a fashion statement like most zoomers
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>>562555660
awwwwwwww upset that i won't lie down and take your stupid bullshit anymore? funny!
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>>562555681
:D

>>562555820
I know but it's very superficial. Eh whatever
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>>562555702
Read our words, there's an extra one, not a contradicting one, or are you saying Tails created the yellow emerald in SA2 thus in contradicts all yellow emeralds shown before hand?
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>>562554636
Sonic Adventure released in 1998
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>>562555910
I'm no longer upset i will sleep peacefully tonight believing you developed cancer in your testiclues
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Sonic characters for this feeling?
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Wish this artist returned to making Sonic fanart. Now they just do Digital Circus stuff aaaaaa
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>>562556178
have sweet dreams about the freedom fighters being relevant
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>>562555512
Why else did you think the Lore Team announced it was non-canon. It makes those involved with IDW insecure as well, so they had to make a statement belittle.
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>>562556267
Who do you think i am, i'm just posting sfw smut here
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>>562555840
Tits the Boobs
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>>562556460
posting an IDW OC makes you the enemy
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Too many foxes...
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>>562555840
Rack the Breasts
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>>562556135
"I'm Sonic, Sonic the Hedgehog!" is a Modern Sonic thing(?)
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My mom did nothing wrong...
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>>562555598
Where's Amy?
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>>562556727
>Expect much of next
I love Sonic speaking Engrish
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>>562556557
Ooc. Knuckles doesn't own a phone.
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Modern West?
classic jap?
Modern jap?
classic West?
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>>562556827
Sonic is American now, honey
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Dawwww
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>>562556671
There's never enough Foxes!
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>>562556756
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>>562556727
The first time it's said, to my knowledge, is the Sonic Adventure character introduction video. Sonic says it at the end of his introduction, however at the start he says "My name is Sonic! Sonic the Hedgehog!", which is similar to that 1990 Ohshima art you just posted ("His name is Sonic. Sonic the Hedgehog"), so I suspect it was based on that. I think there's also a late 2000s game (Secret Rings) where he uses "my name is" again. And there are other variations, like the one before the second Shadow fight in SA2, or most recently at the start of Blade of Courage. Regardless, I think it makes the most sense for Sonic to be introduced like that. Sonic is simple and direct in how he expresses himself
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>>562556756
fiona's son.....
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They tried.
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>>562557094
No this is actually because he's British. He's introducing himself like James Bond. Sonic is canonically british.
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LET'S DO IT TO IT
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>>562556727
>>562557094 (Me)
Also another thing I forgot to mention... In the interview text itself, I think Sonic refers to himself with the word "boku"? I don't speak Japanese so I'm not sure, but that seems to be the case. I don't think he's ever done that after 1990
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It's sonic racing.
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>>562555637
>but not by literally putting the name Sonic on his birth certificate as that would no doubt piss his wife of.
You're overthinking it, bro.
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Shadow on dating websites
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Would you take good care of her
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>>562557074
Would be cool if he got a variant too
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>>562557019
Cuuuute!
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Every character is someone's favorite.
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https://files.catbox.moe/vkzcvs.jpg
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>>562557087
What's so special about the stairs?
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>>562554663
>WIP
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>>562557525
even master zik?
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>>562557525
This character is now associated with being a toxic rapist feminist.
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>>562557282
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>>562557551
I much prefer these wings when compared to >>562557121
or >>562556913
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Need sex
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>>562557414
I would make her my daughter
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>>562557717
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>>562556727
>DeepL: I’ll never forget that designer meeting back in the Year of the Earth Dog, when Mr. BIGHSLAND (hereinafter referred to as Mr. B) said, “Let’s create a game with character depth and gameplay that surpasses any title from a certain company—something that’s never been done before.” That statement inspired the entire staff, and the project is finally taking shape.

>“Sonic the Hedgehog! The day he finally reveals himself to everyone is just around the corner. With surprising twists, unique characters, and Sonic’s comical antics, I believe those who saw Sonic at the HOY Show got a glimpse of the beloved world of Sonic. But that’s not all. There’s no doubt that an even vaster, more humorous, and thrilling Sonic world awaits you.
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>>562557717
No you don't, you need someone to trust you and is willing to be protected by you.
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>>562555502
Enjoy the show! :)
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>>562557525
Yes
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>>562557906
>>562557906
>>562557906
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>>562557895
I will
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>>562557318
All around the world.
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>>562553189
>and yes, Sonic did worsen the situation in Lost World
That's being very generous. Like 80-90% of everything that goes wrong in that game is his fucking fault.
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>>562554636
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>>562557670
I like zik



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