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I'm playing the F-4J for the first time. Is it only in PD mode when it's "PD HDN" or is normal radar mode also PD?
>>562592517if it doesnt say PD, its not PD
>>562592517>Is it only in PD mode when it's "PD HDN"yes
>>562590958Stop playing on a hard drive third worlder
this event would be pretty fun if the AD didn't make it possible to do anything without lobbing nukes that they magically ignore unlike every other munition
I am complete dogshit at this event.Will these vehicles become available in the regular research tree afterwards or what? I don't want to keep playing.
>>562593171They'll ignore ordinary dumb bombs too, but that's a huge waste of time. Honestly they fucked up the reward structure and it's a huge waste of time to interact with any of the objectives. If you are good at missile thunder, it is far more lucrative to just dive into the retard furball.
>>562593171just saw a Flarakrad intercept 8 bombs and the Su-25 that dropped it
>>562593370>Will these vehicles become available in the regular research tree afterwards or what? I don't want to keep playing.Nope. Maybe different variants.
>>562593370>I am complete dogshit at this event.same anon, never played air rb past 8.3 and i have no idea how anything works. it feels like nothing i do actually works. i cant fight planes because my radar doesnt work, when i do get a lock the missiles just fly someplace else, and all my anti ground munitions get intercepted, if i can even get within range of the aimbot OSAs I tried playing around with the HARMs but apparently they are totally useless too lol
>>562593479I doubt it. MiG-31 I expect to see, but B-52 and Tu-95 will most likely at best be available as the nuke carriers in the RBEC.
>>562593750I doubt it too, but if they add other B-52s and Tu-95s to the tech tree, then they won't be the B-52H or Tu-95M.
>grind USSR event>win 2 out of 7 matches>grind USA event>win 1 out of 6 matchesi shouldnt be upset but man i need a carry
>>562593690>take MiG-23/Phantom>take loadout with IR missiles>spawn airfield 1>fly at red names, press space or whatever you use to start the seeker on your missiles, spam missiles once red>gun if close>congrats you just traded, bonus points if you break away from the first kill and flare/chaff and kill more than one guy>get 250 spawn points>spawn nuke>fly low (as in, under 50 radar altitude) at enemy ground targets>pop up before the target, toss bomb with your magical third person bomb sight>lawndart if you want or go back to rearm for more bomb>earn 500 sp>go side of map at low altitude and repeat same as above but with enemy airfieldsCongrats you now have 7700 event points within 30 minutes while also playing like a complete caveman.
>>562593690The best way to earn score is to just be really good at air combat, but telling that to someone new isn't very helpful. I'm assuming that you're using the F-4E. Some tips if you're using the F-4E.>Keep your radar in air combat mode. There's not much point for you to distract yourself looking at the search scope.>just bring flares as your countermeasures. There aren't that many radar guided missiles flying around, and you'll mostly be defeating them with multipathing rather than notching/chaffing.>In your settings, enable radar altimeter and set it to turn red at 50m. Try to stay between 30-50m altitude to thwart enemy radar missiles.>in a head-to-head, against a mig-23, start pre-emptively flaring around the 2km mark. You don't need many. Just a flare every second or two to completely fuck over his ability to lock you with a r60/24t. If you stay low then he can't get you with a 24r. You can be significantly more liberal with your guns than he can.>If you see anyone start climbing to the point where the ground is no longer a factor, lock him with your radar and hit him with a dogfight sparrow. It doesn't matter if he chaffs. Just hold the lock until the missile hits or completely misses.>try to third-party people by flinging 9L's at opponents that are fighting someone else.Try to get a few air kills and then start throwing nukes at things. Watch some youtube videos to learn how to use the CCRP bomb computer to toss bombs. You can get some decent score by destroying tank convoys, airfields, or sneaking around and killing the S300 battery. Sneak around the sides of the map when going for airfields or the S300s. The osas are very deadly, but if you're careful you can stay out of their max range.
Man, when do we get to use the OSA that can ripple off macross-tier missile swarms in a nanosecond and guide each missile at a different target simultaneously?
>>562594528The 7km radius was a bit arbitrary since I lacked a good point of reference for scale beyond the russian central forward airfield being ~7km from their central forward S300 radar. Flakrakrads/osas are still dangerous a bit beyond 7km, but if you're actively running away from them then you're probably safe at that range.
>>562594198>>spawn nukeevery time i spawn a nuke i go for a flank depot but get intercepted before i can get it off, idk why theres always an enemy there but there is
>>562592596>>562592597So then if I'm doing low alt shenanigans, is it worth keeping in PD headon the entire time even when not in a head on situation?
>>562594909Spawn on side airfields, stay low the whole way, don't go straight from airfield to target but fly a bit diagonally after takeoff towards the empty flank before you turn in for your attack run. Doing that you'll only face the occasional flank-bomber like yourself, and often nobody at all.
Do the default Russian planes not have any radar missiles? Everyone flares the IR ones.
>>562595326The Mig23 get the R-24R and can carry two of them. Noobs prefer the 24T because they're easier to use, but they are defeated by 1 flare.
>>562595486Yeah, and everyone in the US flares them. I can't do shit since everyone learned how to react to missiles. Sucks the default US planes can get ARH while Russia only gets IR missiles. At this rate I might need to play 50000 matches before I get the star.
>>562595651>while Russia only gets IR missilesBro you can just pick the loadout with R-24Rs. Unless you mean on the Su-24 because that is annoying I suppose.
>>562595651If think you may have misunderstood. The mig-23 has access to the R-24R, which is a semi-active radar homing missile. It has a bit of an advantage over the F-4E in that this particular mig-23 has access to an MTI radar that has some, janky, ability to filter out ground clutter. The 4E gets more sparrows, but it only has a standard radar and will struggle to do anything while ground clutter is in play.Players who own and utilize the F-4J and F-4S are far stronger in the SARH missile department since they often carry 4-6 sparrows and they have pulse doppler radar that is SIGNIFICANTLY more dependable to dealing with ground clutter than memeTI
Why am I being put in matches that are 90% done.
yeah im done, none of the tips work for me. i struggle with the mig 23 as ussr for 3 hours then i get mogged by mig 23s for 3 more hours. i might ge the tu-95 since i already did two tasks but i aint playin this mode anymore, shit just dont work, gonna go back to 6.7 ground
>>562596810>the germutt cries out in pain as he can't fire his railgun from his unkillable niggerbunker
>>56259681024R not 24T. I learned this thing has 2 versions. One that sucks and one that's good.
I'd be tempted to use the 24T just because the radars at the particular BR range of the mode are more of a struggle to fight with than the enemy and +2 IR missiles since most of my kills come from cheeky R-60M shots anyways.
was the message of this event intended to be that nuclear weapons are the only reasonable approach to SEAD
>>562596883i dont even play germany in any modemy highest br jet is the Mig 17
I'm sick of these fucking BUK and osa niggers randomly lobbing missiles over mountains when I'm practically hugging the ocean with a mountain between me and them somehow seeing through the fucking ground
>>562597003it's a message for the russian army
>play F-15>Climb to 4 km>Spam 9Ms and 7Ms at migger 23s and 29s hugging the ground directly below>2-4 kills everytimeThis event is too ez
aim 7ps for the F-18A and F-15A when these aim-7Ms are DOGshit
>>562597956>F-15ANever, the 7P was only used by the Navy so the only planes that could get it are the F/A-18A and F-14B.
>MY HANDHELD UFO ROCKETS ARENT OVERPOWERED ENOUGH GIVE ME AMRAAMS SO I CAN BULLY MIG 23S HARDER
>>562597820Bro, you're supposed to say that 9M's are garbage and easily flared!
>>562598272Not him but I've had more success with the fucking R-60s than with the 9Ms
>>5625982729L is the shitty one. 9 is impossible to dodge.
What they forgot to copy from Nucler Option were high rewards for ground pounding.As others said, it's not worth it, unless you're going to toss nukes.
>>562599070Those are just numbers tweaks, you can always adjust that later. More stuff, like playable helis and naval units, are all but a given too. What they SHOULD copy but might not are non-combat roles like logistics or search & rescue, those would be super neat to have.
>>562599419>playable helis and naval unitsBad word ordering choice, I meant AI naval units (though playable ones wouldn't be that unthinkable either).
>>562599419>What they SHOULD copy but might not are non-combat roles like logistics or search & rescue, those would be super neat to have.That all would be nice but I'm not sure if it can work in War Thunder economy. In Nucler Option you don't have to care about money outside the match, so during the game you can do whatever you want that will contribute to the victory. Of course, air kills give you the biggest rewards, but you can also do a lot by killing ground units.Meanwhile in War Thunder? Almost everyone is taking part in the never-ending grind and they want to earn as much money as possible. What gives you the most money? Air kills. And that's how furball in middle of the map forms every time.
>>562598503delusional
>>562599770Make the average reward per unit of time like 70-80% of what it is for PvP and that's a solved problem. I know I would play those roles from time to time for variety's sake even if it would cut into my rewards a tad.
>>562599770Efforts could be made to break up the furball. For example: delete the central forward airbase so that there is no longer one singular "closest to the enemy" spawn point. Inevitably some players will spawn at different forward spawn points, and you'd have two hotspots of PvP activity, with the flow of conflict shifting as one side starts winning or losing the assorted fronts.
So, why f4e radar ignores chaff now
>>562593370afaik gaijin put these kind of planes in the 'event prize only because they are too silly to be tt/premium' category, squadron variants arent out of the question i suppose
>>562596992yea i take the 24Ts and just fire them in long range headons or after the first turn people dont even flare half the time and i can just focus on killing someone else instead of chasing
>>562600286It doesn't ignore chaff
why are b52s like this?
>>562600286The radar doesn't but the AIM-7E-2's seeker does unless the enemy is notching, it's an inherent property of all CW seekers.
>do ussr task in one game>Maximum points i got as usa is 2000
what are supposed to use for low tier US anywaysf-4e?
>>562603961unless you have the F-4J / F-4S, yes
>>562604008>F-4J / F-4SDon't these get sucked up into the upper bracket and get raped by the Yak-141?
>>562604270No because Russains don't play that bracket
>>562604270Potentially, but the odds are in your favor. The tomkitty lobby has an hour long queue, and the low tier lobby has a 20 second one. On the off chance that you get sent to top tier, then just go get shot down, leave the lobby, and queue back up again.
Why are mutts like this
why do the default phantoms in nuke mode get 9Ls anyways
How do I use sparrow?
shoutout to the worst tank in the game
>>562606714surely pt-76 is worse
are small targets like agm65 and kh25 that easily shot down irl?
>>562606714The milk truck with 4 Maxim MGs and the bong AA with 4 BESAs are indisputably worse.
>>562606321Because without 9Ls the F-4E would have nothing over the MLD, hell it would be worse than the Su-24
>>562606828the fully stabilised heat slinger at 5.3?lol
>>562607648No the chinese one that was removed
>>562607559>hell it would be worse than the Su-24delusional
>>562607879great argument!
>unstabilized pt76 at 6.3fucking why?
>>562608020>radar missiles, missile count and an actually workable FM are not advantagessasuga mutt-sama
>>562599419>like playable helisgod please add chinkopters with those funny missiles
>>562608102>radar missiles with abysmal dogshit radar that you can't use below 600m unless you get lucky with the game's shit code>missile countI'd rather take 6x R-60Ms than 4 unusable radar missiles and 4 rear aspect only mediocre IRs>actually workable FMtrue, that's why I said it would be worse than the Su-24, not that it doesn't have ANY advantage over the Su-24.
america is becoming more unfun every day
>>562608583take the chinkpill
>>562608665i'm talking about the event moresoit's just trains of mig-23 nuking your airfields as soon as nukes come upand as USA you can't get the spawn points with cas so you have to go into the furballbecause all cas munitions get intercepted by 40 osa with botomless silos
>AIM-9L gets distracted by R-60
Are the HAWKs underperforming or something? I see multiple miggers charging the front base without issue but the moment i try to do the same, I get fired upon by S300s and Osas.
enemy AA missiles are invisible nowyou see the diamond at the launcher and then it disapears, no smoketrail or anythingyou just explode
>>562609052Who's the easily flared now?
>>562609061The Sedjil is basically a Hawk missile. Remember how horribly it pulls?
>>562609061Probably, I only died once to a Hawk, and even then I was a MiG-25 flying in a straight line
>>562609061i'm certain US airbases just don't have AA, it's just visual for fun
>>562609061 (me)Can't tell if I'm just blind but, are mutt AA batteries offline or someshit? I don't see a single trail coming from our side but I can damn well see hordes of theirs. We're somehow getting spawn camped 5 mins in the game by miggers?
>Osa tracks through the groundyeah fuck this eventIt was fun for 2 days at least
>USSR can just casually fly over airfields while not evading at all>meanwhile as america if you so much as approach a depo from behind a hill in you get shot out of the sky by OSAs and buks EGGGGGGGGSDEEEEEEEEEE
You can say xD, we're all adults here.
I can't deploy flares.
>>562610148Why can't you deploy flares?
>>562610316I press the CM button, one flare and chaff pop out and then I can't use flares anymore, only chaff. Both flare and chaff are still selected.
>>562610681>>562610148That happened to me yesterday, you need to leave and join a new game.
>>562609061>>562609198If you didn't notice, in real life, western anti air is massively inferior to Russian aswell
>>562611330keeeek
>>562611330
>>562611369>>562611510>>562611632>>562611883Organic posts, no GMOs or pesticides.
>any post i don't agree with is inorganic
>>562612398I didn't say I disagree.Also you can click on the posts you want to reply to.
>nuke ground base>by the time I've landed at our FOB, not even by the time I get back to the frontlines, it's rebuiltamazing stuff
Why
this would have been a lot more cooler if Phantoms could carry the ARMs>BUT F-4G ONLY-yeah and the F-4E didn't carry 9Ls, just make an exception for the event
>The US team gets pushed back all the way to the airfield every game.>Have to fly across the entire map just for a chance of taking a shot at them on take off.Very balance and much fun.
>Pop 50% RP and SL for the event>A thing that never happened before happens:>Both F-4J and MiG-23ML are put in a full uptier against MiG-29 and F-15AI'm nooticing
>>562613224And the US always wins because the Tu-95 gets always raped by HAWKsSo what's your point
>>562613546That's not exclussive to one team.
>>562613546I've never seen a Tu-95 get killed by a hawk
>>562613546I just watched a Su-25T kill an entire nest of Hawks with impunity, not a single missile was fired at him
>lost a match where we had an overwhelming advantage because no one went to the single capture point
>>562614534Because capturing points is a gay game mode.
>>562615058by playing israel
oplot is very gud
>>562615339Nothing will stop Russia in this game
>>562615458It’s Russian after all
>>562615458There's hardly a tank that's unequivocally bad.
>>562615458what makes this thing at 12.3 over the T-80U at 11.7?
>>562616186Reverse speed.
>>562616186reverse
>>562616186reserve
why does turn your yaw+roll control nearly entirely off when you're close to the ground anywaywhose bright idea was that
Just joined.
>>562616527Dumb leftwing libcuckKill yourself
>>562616527Well, join again.
>>562616323>>562616418>>562616501not as if the T-80U is slow in reverse
>>562616716Did i ask for your opinion? No shut up dumb fuck
>>562616814Join again.
>>562616520googoo gaga controls
>>562616520It's supposed to help newfags but it's probably the first thing you turn off when you gather enough braincells to go to the settings
>>562616814Why are you impersonating me?
>>562616846Shut the fuck up before i smash your teeth in kid
>>562616891i love when they make it work less for no good reason
>>562616846Ignore him. I did ask for your opinion by posting my screenshot.
>>562615532>BBC poccnnwhat did they mean by this?
>>562617230It means BBC (in Russian) pussy in English iirc. The founder of Russian language, Alexander Dumas, was the product of BBC and Russian girls so in honor of him they named their airforce after this phenomenon.
>>562617230I think they meant rus air force
>>562616745-10 or hell even -15 is geriatric in top tier
Sure is bad here when its american hours
>>562593690>>562593370How? You can just bomb ground targets and get a good amount of points.>>562601272If they ever get added as non event, it would be the cruise missile variants.
>>562617974>How? You can just bomb ground targets and get a good amount of points.ground AA shoots me down before I can do that and I don't know how to counter it
>>562618364https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85QqlxXMywU
>J'ing out is now the metaBravo Gaijin.
>>562618795helicopters in sqb:
>>562618795I'll take anything over 1-life slop. At least dying isn't frustrating when it has no cost.
what did they mean by this?
>>562595072Bumping for answer
After getting to play russia in the event it's clear30g has different meanings when it's applied to a russian missile or an american one, with the russian one actually feeling 30g
>>562618764>The best way to use the ARMs is to use them like a shittier AGMamazing design 10/10
>>562619140different acceleration
Arcade German players are a joke. How am I allowed to 5v1 brawl tanks that should all pen me and win?
>>562619140The G number on stat card is meaningless. It means this many G's under perfect conditions.
>wasting your life on video gamesTime to grow up Maybe?
Why can't stationary units stay spotted on the map? It's not like they're going to move.
PANZERGRANATE GELADEN
Why do Chinese jets past the J-11A lose the R-73s?
when the gamemode hits actual rotation it should be called Nuke! and have its own jazz soundtrack and artwork reminiscent of the culture from around that time
>soundtrackhuh?
>>562620403dude imagine, it could be a big deal, expand it into naval with subs instead of bombers. It feels to me like everything in WT has been leading up to a gamemode like this
>>562620136ZIEL ZERSTÖRT
>>562620638>It feels to me like everything in WT has been leading up to a gamemode like thisI feel you anon. Something like this is what I expected WWM to be ages ago instead of the seasonal collection of WarioWare microgames we got.
>Event is already halfway over and none of the promised tweaks have happened>Mode has completely devolved into just a TDM chimpout in the center until someone auto wins with a nuke
>just got put into the high tier bracket with an empty line upinteresting
>>562620883>until someone auto wins with a nukeso you dont play
>>562620786exactly, you really do get it
ZIEL ABGESCHALTET
>>562621273The only people who try and stop nukes are the handful of LARP'ing retards in MiG-25s who sat around staring at clouds for 30 minutes and they're few and far between. Muttoid teams never intercept nukes
>>562621319RB Enduring Confrontation with a plot
>>562621559yes they do
>>562621751Good joke
How the hell is the Wyvern S.4 at 4.7?
>>562623736bugbotsand bongoloid players
>US lost more aircraft in one day than Russia during all of SMOremind me why we think of american planes highly?
>>562624665
>>562625291Melted
Where is enlisted general sirs
>>562624665Huh? I doubt that.
>>562625936intel slava Z and RT told me so
>+200% SL booster>+200% RP booster>+10% RP booster for everybody>gets put in a match with 600 tickets remaininggaijin, i hope you get nuked
>>562626091double it and give it to the next person
>>562625936eternal flight guy told me so
>>562626198Eternal flight guy busy counting dead american pidors
>>562626250>american pidorswhy write "pidors" twice?
>>562626091Mein Führer, ich...
>>562626368ziggers who like to treat conscripts well :^)
>>562620692
>>562624665The US lost like 10 aircraft with half of those downed to friendly fire during this whole conflict. Meanwhile Russia lost 1000 aircraft during the first 30 days of the 3 day SMO.
>>562626605>1000its 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 you transphobic zigger chudcel
>>562626507Doesn't have an impact on nuclear thunder for me
>airfags think nuclear mode is fungrim
>>562626838so true xister, rushing the same exact camping spot and dying after 1 death as one of the teams gets shitstomped and spawncamped to death in five minutes in grb is so much better!
>>562627019>dying after 1 deathleaving after 1 death*
HERE'S THE UNIRONIC, FOOLPROOF, 100% GUARANTEED TO ALL PROBLEMS WITH WAR THUNDER:1) Give all subhumans with more than 0.1% of their total battles in premium vehicles the gaddafi treatment IRL2) Feed their remains to bvvd until he fucking explodesI'LL TAKE MY GAIJIN CEO POSITION NOW THANK YOU AND YOU'RE WELCOME
>>562627658if you're a broke boy just say so?
I think I'm done with the event until the supposed AA nerfs happen desu. The novelty kinda wears off when you pretty much live or die entirely on if an Osa/Roland decides it
Any chance they turn off infinite ammo, perfect tracking and the rate of acquisition for the sam sites?
>>562628078Right after they turn off the multipathing.
The perfect AA is making want to blow up a school
There's nothing endearing about this confrontation.
>>562626605>friendly fireyeah, sure
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>>562618764Might as well use the F105 with shrike missiles at that range.
man I cant believe AA is so poewrful, ruzzia and goylemutts and all other militaries must be complete retards to not intercept every drone and missile 1 second after launch irl
>>562618764tldw: don't
>>562628832discord squadtranny overdose
>>562628832this could be you but everyone here is far too autistic or doesn't play the game
>>562629317>lowiqperemoga trannies>wartgdown syndrome uncs>ng somethingsomething of a mix of the other 2
>>562628190doesn't even work against the AA, so go ahead
Reported Enjoy ban
AA just stole my kill
>>562630268
>>562628190>Right after they turn off the multipathing.why would an IRL mechanic be turned off just because it interferes with your ability to brainlessly click the shoot missile button and get kills?in real life multipathing is actually far more of a factor than in warthunder, missiles will go for the ground even if the target is as high as 1000 meters, especially if it's a forested area instead of plains
>>562630671Multipathing does not affect modern missiles.
>>562625790If no one makes a new thread the general dies, kinda crazy right
Yak-141 has been very enjoyable to use in this eventABSOLUTE mutt death
>>562631113you give them better planes and they STILL loseabsolute KEK
>the best US fighter in the event is an outdated bomb truck>it's also the only nuke carrier
>>562631618The F-4S can't carry a nuke though?
Funny how andre tate owned entire /wtg/
>>562632192who?
>>562632569He owns a bugatti
>>562632569Bot post.
>>562632192what color is your merkava
>>562632192What colour is your Statshark?
>>562632796Grey
>>562632824OOF
>>562632613
Another andrew tate W
I'm bad
Computer, make andrew tate pregnant and super bloated
>>562631618A-7 can also carry a nuke, but it's pointless since the f-4 is faster.
>>562633527Why? Jelous of his success?
What colour is your Object 279
>>562633745Would be neat if the slower nuke carriers were cheaper, or if the faster one were more expensive.
>>562633994Stop posting those pictures of Andrew fucking loserYou will never be alpha like Andrew
Is it normal for adversary air bases to be withing artillery range of each other?
is it true that when the chinx poster isn't posting sex fantasies about xi, he's posting them about andrew tate?
no that's the mentally ill norwegian
>>562634318Nah the Norwegian only post his dick
>>562633962computermake chinkposter impregnate andrew tate
>>562634512>WvnVbvFx3biIeqpX.webmvehicles?
you can enter bomb track view and guide it????i got killed by an a-4e that had no visual on me and thought he was hacking autohoming or something
>>562634886its a new feature
>>562597820Well the hard part is even getting into a game on the upper bracket.
>>562634101Yeah, like the phantom could start at 500 sp.
>>562634718>MM puts Isntreal against US
>>562634971>>562634886>watch server replayi wasnt even spotted or rendered for him what the fuck
>>562635307new exploit gives you control of the missile when you click to view it
>>562634101If the small nuke was any cheaper retards would just play touchdown with them given the rewards.
Why is it so hard to find uncropped fucking map jpegs online.
>>562592851That sounds like a dying HDD.
Well, I got double kill many times before, but not with a single HEAT round.
JF-17 would be a wonderful ground attacker if it weren't for the fox-3s that uptier it into iris-t hell
Besides the overtuned AA, I think the head-to-head furball in the center needs some attention. >move central AF back>group forward AFs (and then the second row AFs) together into one spawn point, stagger the spawns by just a few server ticks, keep track of how many people spawned at each AF and spawn the next player at the AF with the least respawns (the goal is to naturally and uniformly distribute players without actual RNG which could randomly favor one team on one of the flanks)>make it so you can't spawn on the same AF in the same vehicle twice in a row unless it's the only AF left (crashing obviously shouldn't let you spawn on another one, only a death to an enemy should count and let you select the previous AF you spawned at)
Holy fuck you guys weren't kidding. The F-4J absolutely demolishes the lower BR bracket. It's so much better than the E. No more struggling for points and banging my head against the wall. I just got 4700 points in my first match.
>>562636970Forgot pic, this gamemode is also A E S T H E T I C
>>562636765wrong
>>562635359How the fuck is this even possible? Guessing they somehow mapped MCLOS controls over it?
>>562637536trick works with mclos missiles only
when are they nerfing aphe?
Nuclear Thunder lower-tier America tier list>F-5 (any)[powergap]>Everything else
>>562637848Never, we won the vote.
>>562638248That's wonderful. I'll continue abusing it.
>>562638494You're welcome.
I don't respawn while killed by SPAAG in a tank.
>>562621273>>562638723?
>>562638238Not enough ammo, flares, or missiles. The PD phantoms are better.
Remember to be the problem.
>>562638238>two missiles>the slowest supersonic in the bracketwut did he mean by this
Can the rooikat 105 still function in a 10.7 lineup or is that a bridge too far? I quite enjoy wheely guns and would like one in my chally lineup
Mig25 is such a b52 rapist, I just shot down THREE in a single match, so much for ruining mutt days/babysitting my useless team that keeps feeding kills
>>562634101Just replace the a6 with the f105 or f111, then late game us games might not be f-4 spam.
>>562639668all the wheeled vehicles are still useful in higher tiers yes because you are simply faster than everything else that isnt wheeledand its not as if what youre aiming for changes as tanks get tougher because youre aiming for weakpoints anyway
If you try playing this like it's EC you'll quickly realize how cramped everything actually is. 3/4th of the map are unutilized, most of the content could fit inside a large EC map, and the part where 95% of fights happen could fit inside a small EC map.RB players don't actually want EC, they don't have the patience for it. They just want to be able to respawn so they can participate in a human wave attack over and over.
>>562640149>RB players don't actually want ECwe've been saying this ever since they added ec maps to rb
>JUNKers
>>562640149Then utilize those 3/4ths of the map, get people to spawn on the other AFs.
Yeah, i don't want EC MAPS in NON EC MODE
>>562639842>F105no flares>F-111way too fast
>play russian side>I just fly mostly straight into enemy territory to their AF and pick up 3-4 killslollmao
>>562640332This lol, the size is pointless if it's the same old 1-life TDMslop.
>>562640346>>F-111>way too fastThe MiG-23 is way too fast as well.
>>562640291I'm talking about 3/4th of 256x256km, there's nothing there, it's just scenery.
What happened to the Norwegian dick poster?
>>562640465Still slower, and doesn't get the 500 SP nuke to take out airfields.
in case you were wondering what sasha grey is getting up to these days
>>562640839And doesn't have x2 1,100 degree celsius IR missile magnets in the back.
>>562640915can someone translate the name?
>>562639668Its in its element speeding down a flank and shooting people in the sides but the BMPT makes every 10.7 kind of shit, the more light vehicles you have in your lineup the closer it is to actual torture too
>>562639829>krytycznie uszkodzonyo kurwa, a lokalizatorzy w gaijinie to bardziej grzyby czy protisty?
>>562641187ProtistyGrzybów mi nie obrażaj
>spawn a tu-95>die to a guy sitting 500m behind the spawnpoint the whole game (he had 0 score)>spawn another one>die to a guy sitting 3km east of the spawnpoint the whole gameriveting and engaging gamemode
>>562641305lenin wiecznie zywy
>Phantom CCRP just seems to randomly stop working when trying to loft targets behind hills todayhow inconvenient
>>562641345it's almost as if flying CAP to protect your team from instalosing is valuable
>>562641482except that in an actually well-designed gamemode that would involve anticipating where enemy bombers will come from, scanning for them visually and on radar, fighting enemy escorts, etc.in warthunder's 80IQ krokodil-designed gamemodes it means "sitting 1km behind the enemy bomber spawnpoint to collect a 100% free kill"
>>562641414
>>562641482But it isn't. It provides negligible score
>>562641482What's the counterplay? Coordinating with your team to take out the SAM sights (that constantly respawn), so that your teammates can clear the bomber spawns of campers far behind enemy lines? No, you just spawn in if no one notices you win.
Norwegian dick poster hereSitting and cuddling my girlfriend while she plays candy crushI want to play warthunder but she gets mad if i do
>>562640149Its fun flying through the empty mountains to nuke rearline airfields though
>>562640346F-105f and g did have optional chaff/flare pods.>>562641940You can ask one of your teammates to go around through the sea or the moutains to take out any defender as you spawn.
WP icons > NATO iconsThere, I said it.
>>562642682Is her dick bigger than yours?
>>562641152anon...
>>562640149there are loads of things you can add to incentivise other stufffirst being furball deathrush not being one of the best reward and game progress actionsyou could have ai recon planes, ai nukes that come from somewhere with or without escortsyou could not have everything respawn within a minute and isntead have replacements launch from a depot or somethingit doesnt have to be the current form, but we all know its jsut going to stay like it is
>>562643307sorry but i dont speak ukrainian
>>562616891What the fuck? I have around 150 hours in air rb and I've watched countless air rb tutorial vids, and I've never heard anyone mention this. Why the fuck is this a setting on by default? I can't count how many engagements and kills at low altitude that I've lost because my plane would lock up and not want to roll in a dogfight.
This event is fun and I wish they'd keep it forever but it might run out of steam after a month or so. They can keep it and make it even more tense next year by adding ground units on this map. Same size of the land and make it a 24v24 match
>>562643010>F-105 with flaresWish we had that in game
>>562642682giver her a big hug from me brot. super wizard
>>562641940Yes, I've done this pretty often. Taking out the 7 strategic SAM sites is a special pleasure of mine and once I have ill happily sea skim across the map and fly cover for anyone that asks for it. It's free kills and fun teamplay.
>>562643550Because they assume that the average pilot is both a spastic and flies using the mouse only
>>562643373This mode could very well be the start of a shift in core game design philosophy in which more emphasis and effort is put into how the game actually plays. For the first time since the game's release, they've put real effort into a gamemode instead of just cramming newer and newer shiny toys into the same old rudimentary crap modes we've had for 13 years. If true, this would more or less automatically mean that the gamemode would see changes and expansions over time even after it's been added on a permanent basis, so I wouldn't be so negative.
>it's almost as ifAny post leading with this statement is guaranteed to be a bad post. No exceptions.
>do nothing wrong>unspotted osa dabs on you without any counterplaymy only gripe with the gamemode
>>562639829czarnuch
flarakpz with their magically replenishing tubes are more bullshit
>MIG-23s fly at mac fuck you in a straight line>if they survive the missile joust and don't turn you can never catch them in the F-4 and they nuke your airfieldRiveting gameplay
>>562643827You don't do it because someone asked you to. No one in this game does anything just because their teammates ask them to.
its funny if you actually get to do itbut 30s guidance time is enough for any(most) spaa to just yoink you
They should remove the reloads from the mobile SPAAsFair enough if those at bases have them, albeit the reloads should take minutes, not seconds. But the mobile ones carrying infinite missiles and reloading on the move is absolute BS
>>562645096Sorry CAS kid, no free kills for you :^)
I’ve done China ground, Germany ground, USA ground, and Japan air. I got a new account m, what should I play. Currently doing Sweden but I don’t think I’ll like it in the long run.
>>562645837why make a separate account
>>562645732>t. obsessed ground player
>>562645971I will contest airspace and you will have to live with it, sorry anon.
>>562645971>Sends a buk at your face
>>562645970I have no choice, next question.
>>562646057>>562645837>I got a new account m, what should I play.How about without cheats this time around kek
>>562646057why did you cheat?
Why can't I play the F-117 in this event?
>>562646036>>562646053Rent free.
>>562646202Making it have minimal BR allowed was stupid honestly, why cant I use a pe8?
>>562646321because you would just get shot down
vocal spaa players shut up when you ask them for their stats
>>562646202Because it would reveal the fact that the AI SPAA are omniscient
I just died to a glorious case of a hesh round bouncing off my hull twice, hitting my 50 cal from the bottom, then killing me.Take this professional recreation instead of a screenshot because I didn't take one in time.
>>562615458i got told it was ass
>>562646191>>562646201I didn’t cheat LMAOOOOO.
>>562646645AP in this case stands for "Actually Probably hesh" in case it wasn't clear.
>>562633210same but its okay cause youre cute
>>562646863tranny to tranny communication
>>562642682my girlfriend is sitting next to me watching youtube slop while i play wt
>>562633210post more
>event>play america>russians swarm you with nukes before you have any points>play russia>b-52 is already spawned 2 seconds in because you only join latethis fun mode has been turned to shit by minmaxers over the span of 3 days
>>562640149If we're favorable to gaijin, this event may in part be a stress test for their backend hosting 256x256km maps. They probably know that a large chunk of the player base is too impatient for operations across such a huge area, so this particular event might have its objectives setup to appeal to the masses with condensed zoomzoom action in order to encourage the playerbase to partake in many games while they collect data about how their backend servers perform while hosting the large maps.
>>562647358>blaming players for gaijin's shit designtypical slave
I learned to stop worrying and love the rear airbase.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doTitxvv_CM
>>562646645Here's an oldie but goodie.
>>562646645classic
>>562648791can hawks or patriots hit that high?
>500 points left>Waiting time: 10:00
>>562649040Yes.
You are playing this when bombing right?https://youtu.be/w_d7wa0cxDU
>>562649170you're crazy but brave
Directed-energy weapons are in.
>>562649398>AZOGbotdeserved, in fact, xe had it too easy
>>562649204https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5iMgG-WJI
>>562648791i like their other song
>>562639829
>there are people on /wtg/ without a wife/girlfriendWhy? Even a retarded norwegian dick poster have one why dont i have one?????
>>562639829I was about to ask, wasn't that the main role of the Mig25? But then I remember it was made to counter high altitude spy planes. Unless I'm wrong.
>3DPD
>>562649398why did you turn off missiles in the sensor view?
i'm going to personally rape every single nigger playing the terminatorWHY IS IT INVULNERABLE
>>562640149That is literally the best design. Let zoomzooms furball to death in the middle and let anyone with patience do other stuff.
>>562650015The problem is that furballing in the middle produces ludicrously high score, and bypassing the skynet air defense grid provides peanuts.
>>562643514Noone does.
>>562650206kek
>>562650178If you start nuking depots you get plenty of points.
>>562649821Yes it is just a super interceptor, and it does its job well, too bad in normal matches there is nothing to intercept at 11.0
>>562639829amerimutanty się nie podniosą
>>562639829I liked this image so much I deleted all the clutter just to keep it like this, hope you don't mind
>>562648801>the poison bulletIt's real.
>>562650410Nowhere near as many as if I spent the same amount of time seal clubbing in the retard pit. I might always be in first or second place on the scoreboard, but I don't think that I'm an exceptionally good player. Above average maybe, but not an ace.
why is the aus aardvark the one in the main line and the tornado the foldered oneit's the BRITISH tree
>>562648801Can this happen IRL?
>>562651062Yes. Just ask /k/ about 22lr and zombie apocalypse scenarios.
>>562649398So i am not schizo
>>562651527Max Brooks did irreparable harm to the discussion of Zombie Apocalypses and he's a hack with less talent than his fathers left nut.
>>562649040Once you're over like 1.5kkph and 10km alt it's relatively safe, it was my second run that session after reload, Fencer's a 50/50 but Flogger can reliably pound all three forward bases with impunity this way.
Since when can manpads lock into choppers at 4km?
>team actually working hard, heavily mogging the enemy>all invalidated by some chinknigger just spamming phoenixes and J'ing out>he spawns nuke bomber and nobody notices except me so I start mass spamming ping>three intercepting from below>we take him out but nuke is out>got radar lock on nuke but no R-73 lock (no 27ERs left)>dont get an IR lock until it is just 500m above the groundgrimremember to always save a SARH for the nuke itselfIR locks on the nuke are unreliable
>drop lock because 7F is going full retard right for a teammate>it keeps guiding for another 3 seconds and kills him anyway getting me kicked before I can get my BuffSimply fucking epic.
Why did nobody even tell me we're playing against /aceg/ today?
>>562639829Do the IR missiles work well? I've tried with radar and ended up ramming it, unfortunately it already dropped.
>>562653318i have patrolled our base like 5 times but never have i seen an enemy spawn the big bomb>>562653389there goes 60% of your silver of that round
>>562654014Radar missiles wont do, get the 4 r60's and the IR one if you go purely for bombersBut for general safety mix it up, r60 is enough to kill the bomber by itself, take fuel tanks to get to altitude before they spawn in, watch the scoreboard. if someone is nearing 5k points and they have no base bomb points its probable. You got enough speed to get from one bomber spawn to another before it dropsCruise around at 90% throttle, it slows your fuel consumption absurdly
china will grow larger
>>562654014R40TDs work exceptionally well unless they drop a single flare (the have ten billion flares). The best missile for the intercept are the F-15's AIM-9M because a strategic bomber isn't going to best the inertial guidance. Hilariously an Su-24 flinging a laser guided Kh-25ML might be the second best if a Su24 player would bother to spend time loitering up there.
>>562654419i agreegweilos on suicide watch
>>562654014>>562654393Oh also, the IR missiles will work only when you get super close, it has no defensive armaments or maneuverability so just go right at it and fire at last possible moment
>>562654157I don't care about SL I've been playing this game since 2013 I have enough. I just want my fucking Fox 1 missile to behave like it's supposed to and stop guiding when it doesn't have a lock.
>>562653389This is the highest tier air battles Ive ever played so its been a learning experience but is there a specific reason why my radar will gladly lock on to an ally 18km away but absolutely refuse to lock on to anything red?
>>562654761I've speculated that it may be possible for SARHs to keep tracking an illuminated target even after your shut down your radar so long as the target remains illuminated by a third party radar. It would explain some things. But I can't really test it in practice.
>>562651062JFK's body and Oswald's Carcano did something similar
>>562649398>Overtuned AA makes SEAD useless and everyone just dogfights in the middle to get nukes >Even if you do kill the AA you're getting like 60RP per vehicle>Gaijin will use this as a convenient excuse to never bring back ARM missilesalso >ECM was nerfed in the last update and both bombers can get raped by plane-launched radar missiles now>ECM still doesn't trigger enemy RWR like it should
>>562655914i haven't been able to lock a b-52 / tu-95 with my radar so far, IR missiles kill them easily though.and Patriot/S300 seem to ignore the ECM
what was the ideal height for multipathing?Starts at 60m and ideal 40?
Where the fuck are my sound mods? Stop bullshitting about "updating", they didn't need to be disabled.
>>56265759350mnever multipath unless you're running away from someone tailchasing you
>>562657593it depends entirely on the angle the missile is coming at you frombut generally speaking, 20-30m is optimal most of the timebetween 50 and 60 meters the effect is a lot less (those are the falloff meters)also ignore the 1:1kdr retard telling you "never multipath" it's insanely useful in many scenarios especially in lategame
>>562657593this >>562658186its also not a failsafe way to avoid any missleif they shoot at you from above the multipath targets align and you still eat shit
>>562658097>>562658186>>562658667i know what multipath is i just wanted to set my ralt warningworks pretty fucking well in grb against sams so i dont see why it wouldn't work against shitty cold war missiles
>>562659384well rolands and whatnot are SACLOS so it won't so anything against themi can't speak to whether this is feasible for Phantoms (which are a lot slower) but on the USSR side, i found that nuking with mig-23s is actually easiest if you just go super high altitude and lob. usually the missiles don't reach you, especially if you take out the hawk batteries first.
>>562659384>against samsonly if the missile went pitbull on you and is not getting any guidance from your vehiclebuk for example will "ignore" multipathing if you maintain radar guidance with one of the launchers
>>562659553>well rolands and whatnot are SACLOS so it won't so anything against themother than lob bombing nukes at them whats the best way to deal with these anyway
>>562659862lollmao even
What’s the best Patriot version? PAC 1, 2 or 3?
>>562654446actually they only have like 50 flares but they have over 1k chaff, I've flown them, the flares actually run out, though not before I could drop>>562654567Doesn't it have a tail gunner?
>>562659862going super far right/left to avoid them entirelyyou can spawn on the peripheral airfields
why do defensive gunners take so fucking long to reload? a pan magazine takes nearly a minute, a belt can push two, and it's not like they're turbolaser batteries anymore
>>562659745>>562659862Sams in this mode dont do shit apart form rolandswhat im concerned are the first 10 minutes where i have to verse other aircraft before i get a nuke
I got hit by a patriot at 15km, mach 2.5I'm calling bullshit, didn't even ping the rwrI'm certain that the missiles will track you perfectly if you are inside their range
I wish the mig 29 was actually decent, its such a pretty plane :(
>>562663112That thing has great missiles. You lie.
>>562663543are you indian?
>>562663543yeah its got decent missiles on a painfully dogshit platform
>>562662361I wouldn't be surprised if patriot/s-300s are ingame guided by the ai and they just turn the radars to check if it still tracks or not, like a souped up osa/roland. It would explain why ecm doesn't work.
what alt do big nukes spawn
>>56266449210km
>>5626644929.9kmanyone with sense cuts the engine and descends to 9km to avoid contrails though
>>562664357The BUKs and HAWKs seem to "work" like actual AA, why do the small ones and the long range ones just cheatis it because this game is made by subhuman slavic animals?
>>562664682because they had to reinvent the framework for multi vehicle samswhereas saclos are self contained and reusing the ww2 cheat bullshit ai
>>562664357>>562664682They don't have the documents to know how these systems work so they just used guesswork.
>>562664682I also got hit by a hawk at 10km 1.5 mach, it's just rigged, the ai has perfect vision on you and can pull retarded Gs on the missile.Saw one change a target from a destroyed friendly to me doing almost a 180 and still hitting me
>>562663112it's one of the better jets for the event for the soviet side, second to the Yak-141
>>562665272you have to be pretty dogshit or flying a boat to get hit by HAWKsBUKs are more scary though
>>562664776>>562665151surely it cant be that difficult, nuclear option (which this mode is clearly where gaijin got the idea) is made by one person and has multiple echelons of realistic-ish implemented air defense and interceptors.
>2 full squadrons stack in a match and rail our uncoordinated team>in a april fools eventjewish niggers
>>562665652nuclear option is dogshit and this is coming from someone with 1k hours into it
>>562665652Gaijin just need to watch youtube videos on how AA works.
Every day this mode sucks more.
>>562666117its better than war thunder for several reasons but the biggest one is that its less than half the price of a single top tier premium jet
>>562666893Every day it gets better and better. Today took me 4 matches total.
>>562666893I finally got into one of those games where I could just lob bombs at depots for 45 minutes and I can see the vision but I'm honestly kind of over it now, going to just do the USSR tasks and buy the USA ones
>>562666971why are you here?
>>562665591when I'm flying a mig23 close to the ground I have no issues dodging, but I was just not expecting the missile the flew past me going for friendly to turn around and hit methere are also ghost missiles or something where you get a hit, but you never see the missileanyway the AI is way overtuned, on the american side I don't even bother climbing at all since I'll just die, 100%
>game ends while i have 2481 sp cause for some reason killing ground targets doesnt give sp )))
he was probably killing allied ground units kek
>>562666893People are getting betterDay 1 you had literal newbies doing dumb bomb runs and trying to dogfight with guns, only a few knew how to work the radar and had the keybinds set up. Now there are a trillion videos on youtube detailing the best strats to use for each plane, normies will only get better
>>562667557It does.
>>562667651fuck off i nuked all the enemy airfields and i cant be arsed to dogfight with nig23 cause its just bing bing wahoo headons once the game rolls back to later airfields Also is the mig 29 in the lower or higher bracket
>>562667668You still have those, I had a guy fly in the middle 5 times, no flares, minimal maneuvering, only using his gun.That's five free kills for me. He left after that.
do you earn module rp when playing the new ((temporary)) mode?
i4w?
>>562668120if you bring your own plane yes
>play event>first kill of the first match is a fagtom TKing another fagtom after take offI think I see what the problem is
>>562668215nothing
>>562667668>radarUseless when everyone is hugging the trees. I ggt 1 radar lock all week
>>562667845Sometimes it stops counting, like sometimes planes won't release countermeasures.
Why do r-24r's sometimes just not get the red lock despite having a good radar lock and being well within 10kmit seems completely random too, no matter the aspect of the enemy plane it'll sometimes just outright refuse to lock and launching will have the missile self-destruct instead of seeing the big painted plane in my radar beam
>>562668431People have been saying this the entire event but I have won almost every American game and one in four russian games. theres a reason why 95% of the people queued are USA
>>562668720That's weird, all I use on the Yak-141 are 27ER/27Rs and completely shit all over any US planes, multipathing or not. I also always, always climb, and when shooting from top down, multipathing barely has any effect according to anons I asked yesterday. Don't have a problem locking (maintaining a lock can be finicky, I guess because of the servers working on edge)Surely you don't use IR missiles to get kills, do you? I can't imagine trying to get a kill like that with everyone constantly flaring and firing missiles
>Had warthunder installed on my HDD for years without issue>notice some micro stuttering sometimes >mostly in planes or spawning drones where my fps goes from 150s to stuttery garbage>get it really bad at terrible times in the new event where the microstuttering turns into full blown stuttering at the worst fucking times>change from dx11 to 12>same issue>move install folder to my M.2 SSD>same issue
>>562669542not that guy but I have way more like with IR missiles than Sparrows and whatever the R-24 that is radar guided is. Even the R-60M works better for me
>>562669678It's the viking anti cheat sniffing your folders
>>562670015I'm about the cut the Viking's nose off in the name of the church.
>>562669542>>562668720Just died three times in a row to an aim 7 while licking the ground in su25 lmao
its crazy how people insist on talking authoritatively on how sensors, radars, ECM, IRCM, IRCCM etc work when its proven time and time again that it's just spaghetti code nonsense added to a game that was originally about Spitfires shooting at Stukas
>>562670516If they're using any F4 that isn't the F4E the event provides, they have actual usable radar.
man turns out this mode is pretty fun as long as you dont engage in any sort of a2a combat
what the fuck is this thing in the intake
I'm out of the loop with the nuclear meta.Is russia getting destroyed in this event?or is it less a balance thing, and more based on how desirable the B-52 reward is over the Tu-95?
>>562671718tiny ladder for fixics
>>562668720you don't really get to use non-PD radars here unless someone makes the mistake of flying at altitude headon at you (rarely happen)jets with PD radar and decent missiles mog the rest so hard they are a must have unless you want to suffer
>>562669339just fyi, you don't need a red lock to launch SARH missilesas long as you have the two ringspretty hard to get red locks with the amount of radar clutter/infetterence/noise going around in the event
>>562671854B-52 is more popular, the F4E is better than the Mig 23 MLD (the rest of their lineup sucks cock), and they can bring F4J and F4S into the lower tier matchmaker and they shit on everything USSR has
>>562670837Idk anon, mechanics in the game can be repeated and situations recreated multiple times with same outcomes. The game is not perfect and has some shit design bits, but they've done a pretty good job modeling the systems. Players with good understanding of the mechanics will have consistently good performance and will shit all over those that don't. Conversely, a lot of frustration comes from people not understanding how or why things work/don't work giving them the impression of a poorly made game
>>562670837>t. filtered by notching>>562671854it used to be worse with the IRIAF now I think USSR is straight up better >Yak-141/Mig-29 >better SAMs/SPAAs>Su-24 just deleting your bases>>the F4E is better than the Mig 23 MLDlollmao
Damn how tf are you supposed to beat OSA missiles? Can't flare can't notch can't multipath them.
>>562672165>the F4E is better than the Mig 23 MLDIt will never not be funny that pidors keep repeating this shit.
>>562671854Russia consistently wins almost every match despite USA being the most overcrowded team.Yes, fanboyism is a chronic plague in this game.
>>562672617>Russia consistently wins almost every matchthe opposite has been true in my experience
the fuck is the point of the lead indicator if you still have to manually add lead
Whole event is basically this in real time and anyone can join and check for themselves.
>>562672476they aren't modeled as IR or radar missiles, they are SACLOS that the enemy guides with 99% accuracy. I say 99% because I've definitely got them to nose dive into the ground a couple times but the idea is stay away unless you are lobbing nukes at them they only have a range of 8km
>>562673001ohohohhooonononono pidorbros i thought usa GODS were meant to be retarded!!!!
>>562673001its not a lead indicator, its an impact indicator
>>562673078what the fuck how are you meant to counter them before getting a nuke then?
I've never had this much fun in this fucking game. I'm gonna miss the event.
>>562673010>check leddit to see what people think about the event>most of the posts talking about how fun or not fun it is>sandwiched amongst all of them is someone crying about how bad top tier France is will never get over the people who voluntarily spend time and money grinding a third world country and are sad and mad and bad that their military sucks
>>562673001I think it gives lead based on the center of the radar, not the location of the gun (it really should account for that though)You have to compensate for it, especially if you have a really weird location for the cannon
>>562673204he's playing the event vehicle doe
>>562673327if you really want to you can lob dumb bombs at them with CCRP or rocket spam with Zunis and whatever Russia has but the general strategy is to fly at the furball, get a couple kills for the small nuke then start snowballing nukes. you aren't really meant to actually interface with 90% of the air-to-ground loadouts because most of it gets intercepted by the OSAs anyway and the ones that don't require you to get too close.
>>562673204>>562673262>muttards dont know what radar lead indicator is speaks volumes
>>562673772you don't even have a reading comprehension or media illiteracy you're just plain retarded my guy
>>562673327See >>562618764. Also while the osa's/ rolands don't care about multipathing or ground clutter, they do seem to be momentarily diverted by chaf, so turning while dropping chaff seems to divert he missile temporarily until you get out of range.
>only people getting the b-52 are f4s players>never f4e onesIT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR I WANT A NUKE TOO BUT THIS SHIT ASS GAY RETARD WON'T LET ME GET HEADON SPARROW KILLS FUCK FUCK FUCK YOU
>>562673925go refute my statement
>>562672165>>562672406>>562672617i literally just wanted to see what nuclear bombs the US team gets and afterwards do some wikipedia reading
>>562674103pay up
>>562674103Play the F4J. I switched from E to J and got a nuke super quick and I'm a dogshit player. The HMD mode kicks ass.
>>562674113there's nothing to even refute my guy i genuinely have no fucking idea what you meant with your reply in the first place or what it has to do with my post my dude
>>562674247everyone is playing what the game gave them in the webm, no owned tech tree vehicles. there are no us mains or russia mains. talk about reading comprehension
>>562674103>IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR I WANT A NUKE TOO BUT THIS SHIT ASS GAY RETARD WON'T LET ME GET HEADON SPARROW KILLS FUCK FUCK FUCK YOUsame anon, find myself getting a bit frustrated when I'm struggling to get my 10 minutes into the game still but I have a teammate with 2800 score already>>562674157I enabled CIS servers and haven't waited longer than 12 minutes but yeah it sucks
>>562674238>Play the F4Jmy highest tier American plane is the first mustang you unlock
>>562674792Do not buy the F4S then. It's not worth it. A scam. The E is just that good with the loadout it provides you with.
>>562674897I would never buy a premium jet for this event because I don't care about high tier air rb and it would be more expensive than just buying the tasks anyway
>>562674157literally leave and reenter queue
>>562673550>people who voluntarily spend time and money grinding a third world country and are sad and mad and bad that their military suckskek so true same goes for shitalyno one forced you to play that nation
>press the zoom key certain locations like the entire middle and northwest of the map>fps drops to 1
is there a way to cycle what the ARMs are locked onto? I want to kill the FlaRak or Roland I'm looking at but it insists on locking on to the HAWK radar 50km away
this mode would be pretty cool if the win condition was ground units advancing instead of nuke instant wins and there was a reason to actually do SEAD/CAS stuff
>>562676768turn it off and on again
Yeah nuke should be like alternate win con, like in the ground mode.Maybe when it's a real thing and not event.
>>562676768"Lock air to ground" key bind.
>>562674408>talk about reading comprehensionmay i suggest you quintuple check which posts you were even replying to you fucking retard
>>562677940you are literally low iq. I'll let you sleep on it
>>562678031post a screenshot of the first of my posts you replied to and explain what your reply had to do with ityou're on the spotlight now don't pussy out lmao
>>562678117>>562674408
>>562678290based retard KEK
>US teams are now fully squadded up fags in F-4S/4J and F-15As>still losekekaroo!
>>562678397remember the 29% winrate and apply that to all aspects of USA teams
>>562678369go refute my statement 2
>>562678538based retard x2 doesn't even bother doing what i told him because he knows he fucked up LUL
>>562678707
>>562678805every reply keeps proving me right btw
>>562674103you can get a PD radar for only $70, just open your wallet :). This event is trash I want prop EC.
>>562678848you should include kekaroo for maximum ragebait potential too
>>562678397>spawn>level 24 A-10 tk's 4(four) niggers on the runway before getting kickedwasn't the limit 2I hate doing the mutt stars man
>game is going good>tons of points all around>dickhead drops meme bombThey need to double the cost of that shit it's so annoying and random. He wasn't even in the top 5 of their team.
>third match in a row where some niggerfaggot just spams F-14, J's out nonstop and inevitably gets niggernvke 30 minutes into the matchwell, it was fun while it lastednot touching this slop until F-14s get banned
>>562679139my team won't stop fucking talking about how they get locked out of their f4 without realizing it's because they don't have enough sp to spawn it with a nukemost of them have around 10 deaths and less than 5 killsis there a way i can get the b52 playing on russian teams, please im begging
>>562679245double the cost and make it immortal
>>562679245what's the deal with ppl crying over lost score? the stars are 7k each not 45k like every other eventyou wont get more stars by farming 12k points in a single match
>>562679514I will however only need to play 2 games per star instead of 3 and games already last too long.
maybe the patriot/s300s shouldn't respawn if you manage to kill them
>>562679649if you dont get the star in a single game you don't have tons of points lmfao what the fuck>>562679704they don't only the lesser spaa ones do
>>562679761why does the other team have a full line of patriots again after I killed them all???
i hate american teams
>>562680118xd
last thread someone said they're balancing the ai aa on tuesdayis this true? please be true
I cheated
what's the point of the A-6 in the lineup at allwhy would you ever want to use it instead of the a-10 or a-7why not put something actually useful and different like an F-111 or something
>>562680118>play usa side>get that plus >>562679337 on the same match>finally get the star so i dont have to deal with that shit anymore>play ru side>get picrel>2k hours and still doesn't know how to make the MTI on the mig23 mald workjust fucking kill me alreadyis it the server or whatwhy are all my teammates retarded trash tonight
>>562681253this guys brain is poorly designed
they should restrict events like these and other things to having certain medals unlockedway too many retarded paypigs at top tier that got to lvl100 by dying a thousand times in a row
>Ostensibly make a game mode where ground attackers matter>Overtune the AA so much that they're actually completely useless>Mode turns into more TDM sloppa but now with GRB's shitty game ending spawns and also sometimes you just get deleted from an aimbot
cool, thank you
>>562682079don't forget to make it so actually ground pounding rewards you with fuckall score + sp unless you waste a nook doing so
>>562659862>other than lob bombing nukes at them whats the best way to deal with these anywayIf your plane has targeting optics like the Su-24 or the A-6, then it is possible to precisely target the flakrad/osa and then precisely slap him with a CCRP tossed dumb bomb. This might require you to make two passes though. One to pop up and positively designate its location, then one to drop the bomb to destroy the osa/flakrakrad.The rewards are so pitiful that it isn't worth going through this process even though it is technically possible to chip away the air defenses via meticulously dropped dumb bombs.
the only real efficient way to rape all the air defenses is to hop into a mig23, climb to 8km, hurl a nuke at Hawk emplacements with CCRP, immediately J out and keep doing it (it pays for itself)for the patriots you can just fly through and gun them in a row, theres only 3 of them
what's his endgame
Talk about fucking close lmao.Their best guy spawned it as soon as he was able to, and their next second only has 1k score.
>ITS A FUCKING T-80U RUN!!!
>>562671854The top tier plane lineup is better for USA by a mile. It is brain dead easy to rack up some kills by just flying to the middle of the map and flinging off a volley of 9Ms or phoenixes. Sure the guy in the yak-141 might more reliably score any one single kill, but he only has four missiles total and can only focus one guy at a time.The low tier bracket is more balanced. Arguably the mig-23 has an advantage over the wellfare F-4Es, but the tech tree F-4Js and premium F-4S shit on the mig-23. The power gap however is not as polarizing as the one generated by the F-14/15 though.>but why does US keep losingBecause they're just furballing and the russian teams are nuking bases.
>>562674897I bought
LET ME USE MY HUNGARIAN MIG 29PLEASEI'M BEGGING YOUI ONLY WANTED A SHORTER GRIND TOWARDS ITAAEEEIIEEEEE
>>562673001The lead indicator assumes that the target will maintain its current heading in a straight line at current speed. He's constantly turning. You made the same mistake that anon sperging about spaag lead indicators about a year ago did. Someone probably still has his webms saved.
>>562684938I have the shilk webm but im in bed
reminder that you can in fact abuse this currently especially with the event HE-177 and its rocket bombs https://files.catbox.moe/qs3wmd.webm
everyone already watched the loner post about it faggot you're not special for JUST finding out KEKAROO
I got a laugh out of this moment.
>>562685642genuinely who?
>>562679337i did get locked out of my f4s because i could only select a single airfield (the one that was destroyed)
It is possible for ground forces to capture a depot. Did it matter? LOL. LMAO EVEN! I wonder if the tanks can capture an airfield?
Just how the fuck do I dodge these retarded 73s that get shot within 200m, my 9L just doesnt do anything like that
>>562686991by not getting within 200m of themstupid ass
>>562685338muhhhsource on that pic?
>>562687240how do I not do that when All the engagements on the event are just head on fights
>>562686991The 9L doesn't have IRCCM, and the R-73 does. The R-73's style of IRCCM is ineffective at long range but becomes increasingly effective at short range. The counterplay is to pre-flare before he shoots his missiles when you see the fucker maneuvering close to you. You can completely cuck his window of opportunity to fire with a few pre-flares.
>>562687674yeah you're an american player alright
After seeing hunters video about SEAD, taking the Intruder out and Systematically raping osas feels like a breath of fresh air, altough it's more sluggish than the SU-25 and can't multirole
>>562687894osas intercept agm88s
it would be fun to do a 4stack of mig-23s that just focus on destroying every single SPAA cluster on the mapi reckon it would take around 10 minutes if everyone is doing it efficiently (speedrun to 250sp, J out, spawn nuke, lob into the closest SPAA cluster, J out instantly, repeat)
>reading the forums>see someone complain about how he has lost 600k SL during the eventeven without premium, I can't imagine myself going negative in SL in this event.
>>562688051>forummakes perfect sense
>>562688031yea, not when they are shooting at you though. to sum up his video>get osa to shoot at you>shoot HARM at osa>turn away and bait the osa to keep guiding the missile towards you>Kill osa>repeat process
wtf is "capacity" on depots?
>>562688218there are multiple osas in each target clusterone shoots at you while the other intercepts the harmshe got lucky on a bugged out match and totes his cherrypicked footage as gospel>muh sourcewatched him eat shit 5 times in a row trying it and leaveif you follow him through replays you'll se the same more often than not
>>562688226It might have something to do with how convoys are spawned and nearby depots/SAMs respawn. Nobody knows.
>>562688323It's not perfect but i've been having some sucess, tho my problem is just the handling on the Intruder and the A7 that sucks, About the clusters I just try to avoid and clear as many lone Osas as possible leaving depots last
>>562688525wish these retarded devs would explain things for once
>enemy gets a b-52>team is so incompetent they even let it bomb a 2nd line airfield unmolesteddamn what a chad
>>562687894>>562688218You can literally get the same results, but better, by just using anything with AGMs instead
>>562689468but my favorite eceleb didn't say so so uhhh it's not real shut up fag
>>562689468True
>>562689468>>562688808>>562688323>>562688218If you have a targeting pod/enhanced optics, then you can just precisely designate the sensor point of interest onto the osa/flakrakrad and toss a 250/500kg bomb at them. Their magical omniscience can differentiate between dumb/guided weapons and they make no attempt to intercept dumb weapons. The CCRP computer has enough precision to kill something soft like an osa/flakrakrad with a 250 or 500kg bomb.It's still not worth doing this since ground targets are worth peanuts for the amount of time and effort needed to kill them, but this is at least more straightforward than some retarded "spam enough HARMs to saturate skynet's air defenses and keep yourself vulnerable to AA fire the whole time to help distract the gunners". Just designate target and get safe. Then drop on the target and get safe. You might even be able to do both in one pass if you are fast enough.
Am I the only one who enjoys slinging nooks from afar at regular targets? Wish there was a gamemode exactly like this but with no faggy game-ending nuke, just 1 hour of non-stop dodging SAMs and a bit of furballing at the start.
>>562690264I'm giving a go at my larp Growler with AGMs, but I might stick to bomb tossing like that
>>562690264this could've been an email
>>562690350>>562690374To be clear, I'm not sure if it's even worth it to try to fuck about with picking apart enemy emplacements with CCRP dumb bombs. You earn so little, and at best you only really have time to get one bomb off per attack run. Sometimes not even that since you may spend the first "run" identifying and designating a target and the second run drops on it.But it's safe, consistent, and the attackers can carry enough munitions to knock out multiple depots worth of stuff in one sortie. Might suck for the US subsonic attackers though.
>>562689468Idk my AGMs are just getting intercepted by a shilka now cause the convoy has an Osa and a ZSU escort
>>562690763the best strat is still smacking faggots on the first furball then get enough for a mid nuke and deleting both airfields on the mountain sidealternatively get a small nuke immediately after the first merge then suicide nuke the enemy team approaching after taking offplaying cas on this mode for anything besides showcasing and trying the new munitions is for suckers
