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>News
MGQP part III has finally been released. Further information here https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01114724.html

READ THE LINKS CAREFULLY
https://pixeldraincom/u/4ek8KWa6 (3.01 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/4CdBetZr (3.04 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/f2mDYcL6 (3.05 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/pePcyBvE (3.06 Raw)
https://files.catbox.moe/s749a9.zip (3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3) (You can use this patch any version of 3.04)
https://pastebin.com/3CiEGJRY (3.04 Prepatched Manuel Edition 2.13 + QoL, read the EMME readme)

Innocent Rules has been fully translated
NEW Youmaen has finally been fully translated : https://mega.nz/file/5Z1QnDZQ#4fFLCwIIP5xWrs0e8xVptgGHnmYOx8qNY37-PiWtHmc
SHRIFT II 2.56 has been mostly translated https://mega.nz/file/KIEAnAAR#gZSP8wYdutRThD3wJkcd1L2mPTgpzUdPyKzdVG4BOKw
New MGQ Wiki: https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/MonsterGirlQuest_Wiki
New MGD Wiki: https://monstergirldreams.miraheze.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Dreams_Wiki
Japanese MGQ Wikis: https://seesaawiki.jp/mqp/
Three Charms Lonesome Spirit collab translation has been updated; Link: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/435693950/#q435711784

Game guides and resources: https://pastebin.com/D8Bn18pQ

You can get the latest translation of the Paradox Part 3 Demo translation files from ArzorX's Bitbucket:
https://bitbucket.org/ArzorX/monster-girl-quest-paradox-translation-part-3/downloads/

You can get the Part 3 Demo files directly from Fanza here:
https://sample9.dmm.co.jp/digital/cg_game/d_310859/d_310859t.zip

You can read a guide on how to apply the patch at ArzorX's Blog here:
https://arzorx.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/how-to-manual-patch-the-game-with-the-recent-translations/

Get the /mggg/ canon as well as apocryphal savefile for Paradox here (Part 3 ready):
https://catbox.moe/c/wa18jy

Tiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.
https://pastebin.com/w87i82zP

ToroToro Resistance's blog:
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/4710
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>>562222792
Paradox's biggest winner.
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>>562695953
Eden, doko?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxdzKXW1qR8
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Foxes won
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>>562665195
More is coming your way later.
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>harpy find less men
>reina lose
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>>562701502
It's a BEE world and you're just living in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBgPWcmrvY
Bee Civilization has advanced!
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Old reliable edition

Album of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyf

Friends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902u

The latest, April Fools, Slime Luka.
https://catbox.moe/c/fzocb9

>>562695953
>Paradox's biggest winner.
Of the girls who appeared in the original VN, unironically yes. We got to see that other than being a sycophant to Ilias, she also has the positive character trait of a sense of responsibility for the angels underneath her, she got a character arc, the sisters, a powerful combo form, and is one of 2 epilogue characters. That last part being one of the highest honours any character could be given. Even if she is still sometimes bullied for comedic effect.

>>562701502
>Girls Luka Girl
Well if you say so.
https://catbox.moe/c/16v92b
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The feds got to Aran.
Likely they scolded him for still drawing commissions while in the hospital.
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Look around you. Your experience is corroborated by billions of men. Across continents. Across eons. Nature does not change. Biology is absolute. There is no way out, always keep the truth at top of mind, and navigate life knowing all is folly but the nut. Everything which is not overt survival or reproduction, is simply window dressing.
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>>562694552
I have discovered a solution to my issue with all of these monmusu RPGs being too long and provocative: prolonged dick soaking in an onahole.

I squirt it to the brim with lube and my dick is thumbed into it in a state between soft and semi and I make use of the onahole's suction capabilities to hold itself firmly to the base of my penis (w/ the assistance of my underwear stretched tightly overtop) and the long protracted grindooning can begin.

My dick has never been so soft and sumptuous. It's many times gone 6 hours in there (many refills of lube) and it's like a young man's dick again afterwards. I do not cum for hours and it slingshots many times between soft, semi and fully erect like it's doing sprints. It's like a whole new world. I suppose this is how I finally wind down the pathetic path of purchasing those robotic masturbatory devices but for now I am content to vibe out with my incredibly moisturized dick.
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>>562705718
the last time this place talked about dick was about Anon's wore and flesh peeled dick from masturbating too much and now we're back to that with another one.

Do you guys just like to plap plap plap too much or what? I urge you despte the erotisms of this general most people here are not virgins, go out and have some actual sex for once so you don't have to do this anymore
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>>562706386
I have a fulfilling life and am just practicing health maintenance on my prostate (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15069045/) , which along side the ever increasing amount of microplastics found in the body it's become ever more important to keep expelling the poison and keeping your balls fresh.

I have never injured myself, how unfortunate for anon. I wish him well because that sounds dreadful.
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>>562706386
If only I could anon, if only I could...
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>>562707892
let me guess, american? In my country sex is as simple as your uber and door dahs services and it's highly unlikely you'll run into someone underaged, trying to rob you, has STDs, doesn't look like their photo or they're being trafficked it's amazing.
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>>562708970
Prostitution?
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>>562709336
they prefer the term escorting
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I got caught by the fox clan they're abo-
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pokemon champions is out tomorrow, let's battle it out when it does
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>>562711408
I'm dispatching pest control.
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I plan to form a contract with a Light Element Spirit.
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>>562715305
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>My Chunni erotic green text was erased when I tried to switch the images used
Its over
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>>562718959
deserved
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>>562719137
It was about a hero and monster 'fighting' each other and showing how much they 'hated' each other.
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I plan to form a kontract with a fox spirit
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>>562701502
>human thing bad
i see the monster lords propaganda department is in full swing
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>>562720186
Your government already did. Every citizen born in your nation legally belongs to a fox spirit.
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necromancer kind of sucks.
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i didn't realize mgq was gonna redpill me like this
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man i really wish i could mass gift food.
spam clicking 99 times to make ice-cream and then 99 times to make parfait and then 99 times on the recipient
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>>562711591
I'll take the firefox.
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>>562720462
to same one or are there several
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>>562720405
>human thing bad
Well yeah?
who the fuck wants john's carpenters the thing ?
>Hiruko
for all her insane shit she does, she never betrays us and even has a sense of morality...she knows what she is doing is wrong and something is not right with her and well tries her best unlike some certan plant cunts
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>>562723953
kanon is what happens when you give a inhuman brat godlike power.

guarantee someone out there is into being dominated to that ridiculous a degree.
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>>562722059
Weird how they shit on humans on how they were super violent and terrible in the past, but consider the current world horrible because humans and monsters are living together.
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>>562724406
>consider the current world horrible because humans and monsters are living together.
these monster girls would have had a separate culture in the past
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what is a chi pa pa
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>>562724620
Violent rapists who sometimes get worshipped as gods, are now violent rapists who live in human civilization.
Yeah, pretty terrible.
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>>562725146
you would get it if you were a violent rapist
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>>562724941
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>>562725457
>hold out your penis
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>>562700995
>reina cute!
>>562701502
>reina life glad!
>okyuu recruit retarded
sometimes you just have to work with the girls you're dealt
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EYY LUKA BRING ME SOME GABAGOOL
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>>562705718
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>>562705718
>prolonged dick soaking in an onahole
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>>562705718
>It's many times gone 6 hours in there (many refills of lube)
Might want to squirt some non-stinging antiseptic in there
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>Ashel has leveled up perfect maid to level 5!
>learned Forced urination!
how do you unlearn a skill
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>>562729562
That's the price you pay for grinding you fool!
go to reaper she can make anyone forget/relearn skills
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Pay Attention! I am so lonely. All the other Angels are scared of me. Noone talks to me. Noone wants to be my friend-- They think I am unstable. She sends me from town to town committing atrocities in Her name. And as I get better at it, She fears me more and more. I am a victim of my own success. Daystar. I don't even get a real name, only a title. I am capable of so much more and noone sees it. Some days I feel so alone I could cry, but I don't. I never do. Because what would be the point? Not a single person in the entire universe would care. Take it to your grave.
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>>562731752
I just can't find her scary. She's too cute and an Angel
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>>562732571
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
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>>562732083
Naturally. You're not a monster, so why should you be scared?
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>>562732757
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
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>>562731752
shouldn't you be causing your son irreparable mental trauma by making him swear to grow up to be a true hero while on your death bed
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>>562732083
>Rich people: "Money isn't important".
>People who have never met Lucifina: "I just can't find her scary. She's too cute and an Angel."
>>562733305
Ilias genes influence. She probably wanted to watch him get ra
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>>562734818
>>>Rich people: "Money isn't important".
no rich person says this, ever. in fact they spend a shitton of money paying off the government so they can pay as little in taxes as possible, squeeze as much profit out of the 99% and do as much insider trading and backroom deals as they want.
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>>562735101
>no rich person says this, ever
nta but to be fair they will say it to everyone else in order to get more money out of them, they just never apply it to themselves, and nor do they even believe it. I agree that the opposite is instead what's true and money is literally the only thing they actually do care about, even when they have more then they could ever possibly need, simply because they can never be satisfied with what they have.
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>>562734818
>>People who have never met Lucifina: "I just can't find her scary. She's too cute and an Angel."
I understand the gravity of what she is capable of and what she can do, but the worst she can do doesn't scare me as much as what others can do.
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>>562731752
Would you like to join me in the gym and a coffee after that?
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okay heres the rundown
>luka
physical attack brawler with great elemental resistances and a large hitpoint pool. uses two weapons via genji acessory
>hild
Dexterity fighter with support songs and dances and makina skills,draws agro with super appeal and has evasion passives. uses two weapons thanks to race or class
>alicestroma
dark magic nuke mage, with white magic and time magic for support and summoning because why not
>promestien
second mage also has white magic, time magic and doctoring. uses heavy magic and eletric elemental booster along with the 50% magic earring
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>>562747890
in the back i have ashel as my chef and Lazarus as my thief/gold multipler. also alarune queen with the recruitment passive. bonnie and chrome are in the party but will likely never see combat. emily was my dancer but kinda got phased out by hild. still in the party though
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main party also has passive hp sp regen and exp multiplier
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nobody tell him
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we beat death
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>>562747890
>actually caved in and kept Alicetroemeria
Now I'm curious on if you're going to use the other route exclusives or collabs
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>>562749334
it helps that i like alicestromia as a character. also picrel made me a bit sentimental
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we beat black alice while alicestroma went on a coincidental stroll.
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>>562753223
You're gonna one turn the final boss of Part 2 proper at this point lmao
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>>562754708
luka can't use full power and use octo diabolo in the same turn yet so it will at least be a two turn
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>>562754858
>multi-hit axe skill
You only need to get the defense drop
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>>562759434
In a better, kind and just world, your bride-to-be would one day, out of nowhere, appear at your door just like this.
And she would look just like this.
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>>562759434
>>562759808
*throws salt at you*
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>eden is moping around waiting for illias
why is this clinger-on always so pathetic? nobody wants you eden. go home.
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>>562760080
I apologize anon, but I must now inform you that you have truly terrible taste
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>>562760345
>blindly devoted to illias
>dies alone
really makes you think
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>>562761681
also she will never be lucifina/miceala no matter how hard she tries
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>>562761681
She's the biggest winner of Paradox in the long run.
You simply are unaware of it in the moment because you picked the other route and will now miss out on all the fun family moments.
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>>562762000
The side-quest where you take Lucifina and Micaela places is the best side-quest in part 2.
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>>562762435
Eden and the Chans are precious
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>>562762000
i will play illias route next. and i'll change the portrait color to a nice yellow.hope i can carry over compendium data and stats into new game plus though
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>>562762707
You will keep the compendium completion percentage in NG+ yes
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>>562762707
>stats into new game plus though
Yes, you'll get to shitstomp it with Tier 4 even, and it's just mashing dialogue until you get to Part 2's final boss again unless you really want to see what Ilias says in place of Alice.
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what's up with these murder whose enjoying something as mundane as camping? I mean they're all going gaga for it, it's kinda cute Morrigan and Zion seem to really be into it to the point Morrigan gets sad at the idea that with the main quest being over there's not gonna be more camping
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>>562763225
>ultra powerful demigods suddenly experience what it feels like to live a normal life and/or ordinary childhood
>this is pretty cool actually
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>>562763420
its that or they decide being a mortal sucks and they should destroy the universe
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>prime luka canonically sucks at video games and thats what caused paradox to happen because he died a billion times and illias reset the world each time
i don't like the idea that luka just remains incompetent the whole vn and brute forced it by time loops. i don't like that at all
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>>562763225
You think bad people spend their entire free time sitting in a dark corner plotting their next kill?
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>>562764934
QnA said he only lost hard battles, and honestly Hard Mode Black Alice is difficult enough to cause Paradox by itself
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>>562764934
It's implied Ilias only did it with specific, difficult fights, and not just everything, but what actually caused the paradox to happen was killing Ilias and rendering the dark/holy balance completely FUBAR.
I didn't really care too much I guess, since it's just based on the idea that the average player would either take more than one try to win or would have Luka intentionally lose just to see the h-scenes.
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lilith spare me the fucking chaosfag le world of freemdom speech i've heard this all before trust me
>>562766229
ruined
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>>562766229
Extremely Based
She truly deserves that look
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i was joking when i said paradox was like a smt game. i didn't mean for it to take me seriously
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By the way with Ilias dead in the VN timeline what’s stopping the 6A from freeing themselves
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>>562766992
wasn't it obvious from the start?
It's basically a blend of DQ/FF/SMT but with cute girls in every role
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nuruko is sealed?
>>562767676
from my understanding tamano is the only one thats able to operate outside of the seal. and i dont think shes super keen on just letting the rest go rampant after luka and alice just saved the world. illias is gone but the seal is still on them essentially
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>>562767676
The seal is self-sustaining. Tamamo got out by cheating the system.
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>>562767676
The seal that only breaks after enough monster girls are culled to the point theirs imbalance of mana in the atmosphere or something like that. That's why chimeras were created so if Ilias killed the ones she didn't like, the 6A + Alice 1st wouldn't be set free.
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>WE WANT YOU TO TRUST US
please luka. please do not trust the obviously evil succubi. im begging you
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imagine ur descendants not freeing you from seal of your enemy they just killed
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>>562768160
they would immediately ruin coexistance
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>>562768237
yes but it's still kinda rude to your family
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>>562768160
Tamamo just wants to feel like she's the most important one and that would go away if she freed Saja and Minagi.
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You will come to understand what must be done in order to save this general.
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>>562768437
I making out with as much Xelvy girls as possible
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>>562768437
end of mgq posting
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>>562768437
yeah. its called killing both the angels and the demons because i'm neutral as fuck
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>>562768437
Pokemon champions posting to allow build autism to thrive.
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>>562768026
>please do not trust the obviously evil succubi.
You picked Alice, you get what you deserve!
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>>562768437
realizing what the filename meant got a laugh outta me ngl
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>granberia has been op since birth so when she faced her first real loss that sent her in a depressive spiral
wait a second though her entire fight with the chimera in the VN is about her experience and always breaking her limits and becoming a better fighter compared to an artificial creature that cannot exceed it's predetermined limits and has no potential to grow and adapt as a fighter
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oh boy its time for the H-game avengers crossover plot
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>>562769650
Granberia in the VN had an extremely personal connection to Luka. She first encountered him right at the beginning of his journey, very quickly realized his potential and that he was being trained, and then was told to back off by Alice. She proceeds to goad Luka onwards throughout the rest of Parts 1-2, trying to make him into a stronger warrior so she can have a better opponent, and by the time they finally battle for real Granberia has come to respect him so greatly that she can accept her loss with dignity because she sees Luka as someone who's truly earned it.

Granberia in Paradox is having an existential crisis caused by cognative dissonance, she does not know or care about Luka, she does not meet him until she tries to assassinate Alma and then gets obliterated in the arena, and then she gets beaten up by a bunch of monster girls (your party), beaten up by someone else, turns into a magical girl with a frilly dress and then gets beaten up again. She was also utterly humiliated by Neris and gets fucking backhanded by his dad. It's not solely about losing a battle. Granberia has never had to actually experience constant, brutal defeats back to back to back before, while also trying to juggle a serious morality crisis and conflicting loyalties.
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>>562769650
Neris humiliated Paradox Gran by showing off the mastered techniques of a Granberria that is 20+ years more experienced.
If she had known the true identity of Neris, Granberria of Paradox wouldn't have been so embarrassed if she knew the cringe daughter's identify, and gotten her spirit utterly broken by Marcellus later when he killed the ML.
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>>562769650
>"I'm tired after playing Musou and won't bother showing you my real power"
Neris mogged her too hard.
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>>562770164
>monster girls (your party)
kockyion
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I don't want to judge, but......well.
Should've picked the better route.
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>>562770342
lawfags are just as bad as chaosfags. also pleasure skills only for the collab? this will be a pain
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>>562770272
It would still mindbreak her. Neris is so strong they were saying that Black Alice feared her. Might be only a secondhand statement but it's still something the general public thought.
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>>562770164
There is also the betrayal of her ideals when she betrays Alice, and bows to Mommy Alice.
Granberria is not feeling like a true knight in Paradox. There is also the possibility that she isn't really feeling like a protector either, since there are no heroes going around going around trying to kill weak monsters in Paradox.
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>>562770572
her reflection in the alice route is about this, actually, realizing she betrayed her roots and was no longer a protector or defender or loyal knight, but just someone with a sword
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Did you at least enjoy the story or spectacle with sonya? Seemed to just skip over her entirely and I'm assuming you really did end up either 1 or 2 turning the fight.
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>>562771486
>frontline clanker
It'd be more surprising if he didn't 1 or 2 turn the fight.
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>>562771823
Well he also grinded every job out on her, his screenshot showed Hild being well over the level cap Part 2 was balanced around before he'd even gotten to the halfway point of it.
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>>562771486
yeah it was good just already saw it a mile away back in part one when illias told luka sonya isn't a real person. also i read the vn so seeing sonya say "I'm lukas childhood friend!" and being inserted like an OC means she's gonna be more than just a regular human. especially on the snow continent when she says she's holding everyone back because shes just a human
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>>562731752
Marcellus be like: WOULD.
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>>562771982
It's weird she says that, when she is capable of fighting off an entire squad of ninja elves, the ones that are the elite guard of the Elf Princess too.
While it's hard to say if she was completely "human" before she went full 5th Law in the Ilias temple, but being stronger than the average monster in the central continent isn't something to sneeze at.
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yeah this tracks
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>>562772621
killing bad btw
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>combat initiates
>oneshot the lampas with flame bullets
they where a lot more difficult in shrift. shrift is the type of game where you can take the best options each turn and still lose because the girl's ai decided to be smart and grapple lock and stack ailments on kazuya in which case you just lose
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>i save a lampas from burning and now we are friends :)
motherfucker we just walked passed multiple dead defenseless people that became "nutrients'
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I'm just glad to see another playthrough at least. Feels like the most fun discussions tend to start up during one.
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>>562773259
iirc those were someone else's fault, i think the lampas just make their lamps
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i know at the end of the day its a porn game, but have some fucking standards kazuya
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>>562762707
>and i'll change the portrait color to a nice yellow
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>>562773523
>think the lampas just make their lamps
they make those lamps by raping people and then puting their souls into the lights while their bodies merge with the lampas. its some big thing in lampas culture but they are also totally fine with attacking civilian bunkers and forcibly lamping everyone who just wanted to live
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>>562773259
sure but having another combatant is useful
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>>562773689
My point, anon, is that you are very quickly about to run into someone who is significantly worse and far more evil than any Lampas could ever hope to be
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>>562773813
yeah but succubus prison doesn't pretend with its monster girls. they're bastards and the game presents them as such. no having tea in your mind palace garden with them no they rape you and then you die.
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>>562773813
Not the kitsune room. The bane of any Paradox difficulty Collab run
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>>562774073
>yeah but succubus prison doesn't pretend with its monster girl
Well......that IS true.......I definitely hate them more, but I still don't really like/care about shrift either, and that does seem to be the consistently main and overarching reason behind why it's disliked so much.
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>>562773689
You're playing the game about making friends with people who are fine killing and eating innocents alive as a game mechanic. Is Kazuya letting the girl who won't take no for an answer tag along that offensive in comparison? At least she's putting an excuse that the burns altered her (of course it's a lie so she can go with him). Hell, because she's a Lampas, we know she has no blood on her hands, while many of your MGQ recruits could've killed dozens before meeting Luka.
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>>562774416
>many of your MGQ recruits could've killed dozens
Billions, you could even say.
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>>562774359
Luka recruits MGQ mooks that literally tell him they ate a innocent traveler before meeting him, or mass murdered other monsters without any care.
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>>562774808
only some of them did that!

And it's also shown Luka actually forces them to stop, too.
And Sonya. Mostly Sonya in the pocket castle interactions at least. I guess Sonya kinda carries some of the monmusu redemption arcs.
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>>562774416
that's completely fair. mgq doesn't take itself super seriously though. shrift kinda does and plays like a horror game for a large majority of it. it has documents in saferooms that detail the demises of people and their desperation in a hopeless situation. you read a diary of a little girl who was all alone and locked herself up in her apparment with harpy spawn banging on her window trying to break in so they can rip her apart and eat her. and it
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>>562774991
>shrift kinda does and plays like a horror game
I mean it's partly based off Resident Evil which also does this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx4tDiKNNJU
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>>562775460
RE stopped being horror after 3rd game though?
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>>562774991
thats kind of irrelevant? we aren't talking about RE
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>>562775948
meant for >>562775460
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>>562776062
As I said SHRIFT is inspired partly by RE. It's like complaining/talking about it being an Undertale like
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>>562774991
I think the only time we see anything like that in MGQ is in Luddite Village, and I guess MW Sabasa when it came to Hiruko's ramblings.
The only humans that are really in danger in the Singularity World when it comes to monsters are adventurers and wannabe heroes, since they are entering places that are really dangerous.
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>>562776697
spoilers you fucking retard
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>>562776108
true mercy kazuya is just very hypocritical in a way that doesn't feel intended but makes it worse as a story.
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>>562776878
ye my bad, 2nd part of the post was pretty spoilery and ruins the surprise
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>>562775268
I feel these dumbasses are what made the collab so fun. All the other heroes were dicking around but these two had to go through a do or die scenario with a bunch of drunk foxes for like triple cultural shock.
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>>562776325
It's a matter of telling vs showing. When MGQ actually shows a monster girl doing bad things instead of mentioning them, it leaves an impact.
Rachnee and Kazura casually talking about eating people is one thing, when you actually see the Lilith sisters dryfish humans the issue suddenly feels serious and you get people agreeing with Ilias Kreuz.
If MGQ wanted to get graphic with the aftermath of a human/monster war, it'd get as grim as Shrift.
Though Shrift also has a lot of humor. There's more light-hearted moments the more demons you befriend, but even if you don't talk to them there's plenty. From the chief of the underworld, to the talking animals, the shopkeepers and the dance battle. It only goes deadly serious if you go genocide.
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>>562778521
i should have been able to kill arachne and daji and get the good ending
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>>562778184
Lest wasted no time addressing the issue and trying to fix it. Too bad everyone he depended on just wanted to rape him.
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>Lampas who only does a suicide kill getting hated
>Tamamo and Ilias having kill counts of the billions and being beloved
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Well at least if there's one place out there that feels like the monster girls can be comfy, it's G■sp■■s■ ■s■■■d.
Isn't that right ■■■■?
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>>562779412
the tamano we meet is chilled out and spends her life as a loli advising and raising the monster lord to avoid more bloodshed, illias is a bitch yeah
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i am being filtered by redhaired cross sword guy's first fight.how the fuck am i supposed to win my two dudes do chip damage and the boss can one turn us
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>>562779412
Recency bias.
The really evil stuff those two did were in the past, while the plant lamp is at the moment of meeting her.
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>>562778774
Yeah poor lest. dude got team killed(raped in this case). i haven't played lests game but i have played yume same which is by the same dev and was pretty memorable. the shota screws his demon grandma who lives in his head most of the time iirc
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>>562780230
You could try having Hide/Appeal and defend on the boy while the girl MP drains her and hope they block/dodge enough times.
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>>562780556
It's basically a rail shooter
Parade Buster is pretty nice, but you don't really encounter monster girls in it for a while
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>>562779412
The logical conclusion is that it's not about the kill count but the breast size. Lampas' tits are too big.
>>562780230
Vivi remains strong and happy even after the Tartarus left her scarred. Be more like Vivi.
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I'm gonna take a break from paradox and return refreshed like tomorrow or something.
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>>562781279
which one was vivi again?
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>>562779412
foxes can never do anything wrong
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>remember theories that since back in Skyward Sword Link sent the Master Sword to the past for Impa to guard it this caused both the green Goddess Sword and blue Master Sword to exist simultaneously through the events of the game
>some loremasters schizos then claimed since the Master Sword is impervious to temporal distortion this would cause two swords to exist even though Skyward Sword happens in a stable time loop unlike Ocarina of Time that split the timeline in 3
>Goddess Sword exists in BOTW as an Amiibo thing so not canon
>>>Goddess Sword exists as a legit separate sword in TOTK without Amiibo
>this means Skyward Sword really caused a time paradox that cloned the Goddess Sword
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>562786023
wrong thread, kinda
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Local angel DESTROYS racism with FACTS and LOGIC
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>>562787673
Ilias does not condone harems, polygamy, and rape. Neither does Luka or Alice.
Prom is talking as if logic dictates the way society works. Not taking into account laws, personal beliefs, and emotions that would be considered irrational.
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Every time I think I'm getting pretty okay at nipponese paradox goes into some heavy political jargon and fucks me up
this is a difficult game to read I tells you
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>>562788249
My interpretation of her words autism was that, since humans generally mate more with human women than monsters due to humans being a more widespread race, the humans lost to being devoured/enslaved/forcefully married to monsters are negligible. Humans can more than make up for those few.

It'd be an entirely different situation if monsters were male and had to rape human women for sustenance/reproduction, as it'd then make humanity unable to sustain the losses incurred by monster rape and eventually drive everyone into extinction.
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>>562774416
>while many of your MGQ recruits could've killed dozens before meeting Luka
Those are our precious comrades*tm!
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>>562787673
Promestein conveniently disregarding the declining birthrates in her logic....
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>>562774808
>Luka recruits MGQ mooks that literally tell him they ate a innocent traveler before meeting him
Lies and slander!
Rachnee says the suspicious jerky is NOT made from dessicated human!

>>562776943
>rip off undertale
>forget that the monsters are supposed to be ACTUAL dindus, or at least not be the ones to draw first blood and then give them very sorrowful characterization to balance that out
>get confused why people see a lot of them and think elimination is very justified
>chimp out when writing the genocide route because of your above autism
Shrift do be funny like that.
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>>562787673
>midwit liberal completely ignores concepts like love and monogamy and thinks only in degen terms
Many such cases.
If she has a marriage scene, she doesn't deserve one.
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>>562788907
>supposed to be ACTUAL dindus
Asgore and Sans+Undyne both willing to kill a child onsight.
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monster girls realized killing bad after luka beat them up so it's ok
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>>562789387
Read the entire line
>at least not be the ones to draw first blood and then give them very sorrowful characterization to balance that out
Asgore's whole thing is being sadman
Sans' whole thing is being reitred after seeing too much shit
Undyne's a battletard who stopped reading at "Han shot first"
2/3 of them literally don't even want to if humans weren't violent apes in their story.
And the other is just Granberia.

MEANWHILE IN SHRIFT Arachne, Hecate, Daji, whoever else
I never said all of Shrift weren't dindus, things like Mother Rabbit were fine enough in ethical terms.
But ain't nobody in Undertale was actually evil, except the literally soulless character who is evil due to the lack of soul, and that other stabby human brat.
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>>562789387
Sans refrains from doing so until you murder literally everyone, Asgore thinks he's a horrible person and would probably agree with you, and Undyne thinks you're an evil monster-hating danger who is also the key to their survival until you prove otherwise.
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>>562789780
...sure, let's go with that.
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Demons run when a good man goes to war.
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>it's the anon who's mad that people like undertale more than shrift again
>>562789219
She's one of the options yes, but you can marry the non-retarded Promestein, since her adult version even admits she's self-righteous when she's younger.
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>>562790093
>only one person can dislike undertale
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>>562789902
Sans only doesn't kill you as soon as you pass through the ruins because he promised Toriel.
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>>562790093
You're confusing me with some bogeyman.
I think both are fine.
I just think it's silly to try to do the whole "waaah killing bad" thing when writing some of the characters in Shrift the way they were.
>"but you'll become worse!"
Maybe but that doesn't really invalidate the part where their actions merit it.
Like I said, got the surface level idea, failed to appreciate morality and character motivation as really important for getting audiences to not want to burn your monsters.
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>>562789219
>Many such cases. If she has a marriage scene, she doesn't deserve one
I will fucking strangle you
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>>562790440
Hey it goes all ways.
If I marry Chrome, I ain't having sex with Federica or any zombies or ghosts or dolls.
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>>562790420
anon I agree with you, you're not the person I was referring to and I thought that would've been obvious
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>>562790856
I misunderstood then.
I recommend if doing the passive-aggressive greentext No (You) fit, that you limit your reply to that 1 person.
Because it looks like you just went in swining on me.
The big drawback of doing that passiveaggressive shit is that it tends to be confusing.
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>>562790856
I don't hate Undertale, it's a fun game. The main cast outside Asgore, Papyrus, and Mettaton kinda suck tho
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>>562705718
Roll for a Anal circumference
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>>562791071
If the context is the monsters in shrift are assholes and I make fun of someone that is/was annoyed that people liked the monsters in undertale more than shrift, then all I'm saying is you should not just assume it was directed at (you) if (you) were also saying the monsters in shrift are assholes.

Because that just doesn't make any sense.
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>>562787673
her logic is somewhat sound but its predated on the logic that monster girls don't kill their mates which some do or have reproducing as a goal of their fucking, some of them do it for nourishment and some still do it for the love of the game. men can spread genes far more easily is true, but monster girls are gluttons and a good chunk of the mg races don't stop at just one man, prime example being yamata no orochi who wiped out an entire villages worth of menfolk with her insatiable appetite for tribute. what i'm saying is theres room for a more nuanced discussion to be had here
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>>562790093
i like the retarded version of promestien though. i like her more than ms "I INJECTED MYSELF WITH SEAWEED DNA AND EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS JUST TO OWN ILLIAS". she's essentially vn promestien before illias imprisoned her and made her the jaded sociopath she is in the vn.
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>>562791464
It didn't make sense but it's easier to assume someone being dumb than someone actually referring to a third party they didn't link to.

>>562791478
Her logic is really you just don't need too many males to sustain things, and thinking humans should be like shitty monsters and form communal harem shit, as if humans are degenerate backwater creatures like hapries or slugs.
It completely ignores evil creatures like Tamamo who take many males solely for herself, and others in the region are not powerful enough to depose and destroy her.
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>>562791976
Harpies didn't form harems in the Singularity or Monster World though, besides Reflestia. It only happened in the VN due to the unique circumstances that occurred.
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>>562791976
thats an alternate evil world tamano. /our/ tamano is living it up at the kitsune shrine in yamato
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>>562791976
If you don't think something applies to you then it's easier to assume that it's not directed at you than "it was directed at me, and they must simply be dumb".
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>>562792129
Pretty sure the mayor cheats on his wife so maybe it's not like they need a ring before they fuck.
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>>562791976
Slander! That's Slander! Slander against Harpies!
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>>562774416
there's basically no cure but ripping out your soul and obliterating it to break the cycle. Kind of violates the inherent moral question there, unfortunately
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>>562792129
I couldn't resist taking the shot.

>>562792249
She's still keeping slaves!
At least Shikimamo invented commercialism... even if it is racist against poor cute rat girls.
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>>562792484
does she really? if its just her making luka her slave it doesn't count because everyone makes luka their slave
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>>562792383
Not all of them do, there's a few who are more flirtatious/slutty, but the vast majority of the population in the two villages are definitely into romance and prefer just being with their lover/husband.
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>>562793146
Can we talk about geniunely fucked the vn harpy village men are?

>Get kidnapped by harpies
>Get addicted to harpy sex
>Human wives forgive the harpies and agree to live together (also because harpies can please human women quite well too)
>Ffw to after the war
>Cheat on both your wives with an angel literally a month after being almost killed by her

I mean it's no wonder why all the harpies of the village jumped at the chance of having a go with Luka
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"You've grown kinder, Musashi. That means you're getting stronger."
"All truly strong people are kind..."
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>>562793492
The human men defended the harpies because they had been genuinely treated kindly by them, had the situation explained and were treated as family, rather than just being turned into semen slaves hopped up on sex, which is also why the harpies were able to co-exist with the humans as well since they just aren't like a lot of the other monster girls.
I don't remember the thing with the angels though.
>it's no wonder
if tamamo commands you 'here's your chance to have a baby with the strongest male individual alive' and he's that guy then you don't ask why, you just take the chance.
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Succubus: Morals? What are those? Can you eat them?
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>>562794316
>he's that guy then you don't ask why, you just take the chance.
it also helps that he saved your village from deteriorating into conflict with the neighboring human village in the harpies case
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>>562794316
>I don't remember the thing with the angels though.
There's at least one guy who gets beaten up by his human and harpy wife for getting seduced by an angel. Said guy who's human wife had accepted the harpy wife into their lives for the reasons you listed above.

I'm not attacking the harpies, I think they are nice. I just think the males of harpy village suck.
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>>562794443
>You have saved our lives. We are eternally grateful!
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>>562794397
my favorite chaosfag grift is them saying chaos is the world of the truely free and then you experience a chaos society and guess what its just glorfied protection rackets and you don't have any real freedom because everyone is out for themselves and create a totem pole
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>>562794549
Very understandable, that guy deserved it
>the males suck
some of them do yeah, lol
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>>562794727
Just like the "world of the free" experiment irl.
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I'm reminded of that one anon who forgot to recruit the harpy queen until mid-aw, went back and found that she was gone, and then ended up being talked into resetting progress because someone convinced him that his neglect led to the harpy queen dying alone in the tower from her illness and he felt bad enough about to try and go back and save her.
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>>562795072
it probably would have been faster for him to pick her up on the new game plus run if he was that far
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>>562795176
it might not've been the middle, i think it was around sabasa or grand noah or smth. i dont really remember the route progression entirely. or maybe i'm mixing it up with mw.
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>wake up
>remember monster girl dreams is never getting finished
>never gonna get more scenes with the cute retard slime who fashions herself as your destined rival
>cry
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>>562795176
That anon was a good man, and he did the right thing.
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>>562795852
anon i get you like harpies, and its funny to think an anon got gaslighted into thinking that his neglect led to a side character death when it was probably more that they just didn't think ahout it. but come on, restarting paradox? the game is as long enough already. don't make the poor boy go through it twice
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>>562796328
I don't think he literally restarted paradox, anon, I think he just reloaded an older save.
>gaslighted
.......gaslighting? I was being serious. The game removes all the event flags once you pass the point of no return so once she's gone she's gone. Unlike some other cases of trtr's coding I didn't think it was a bug, I thought it was intentional. So she probably did just die in the tower. Which is just sad to think about. Lucretia goes through a lot as it is, the poor girl.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZllWiKKPHk
>language and idea sharing isn't unique to humans
Human Supremacists on suicide watch.
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>>562798965
anon you are going to freak when you learn about ants
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>>562701502
>angels monsters yeah
>fat wanted koron happy instead straight emily character kanon death
>gabriella thinks vore holy
>pathetic goddesses tries evaluations
>imagine redemption
>arguing relationship romantic
>eurburtie knight
>eden golden heal
>basically kazuya based
>given unhinged paizuri
>nice super loli uses suck
>succubi evaluation
This is now a collab event thread.
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>>562801569
>touches you
>insta dryfish death
>or they drag it out and make you feel your soul being siphoned out
i don't get the appeal of waifuing a shikibus. they seem like one of the worst ways to go out. i liked vinum if only because shes got a huge library about a bunch of occult and forbidden magic. thats cool
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>>562801895
You don't "waifu" a shikibus. You accept the worst excesses of women by fetishizing them.
That girl you like sucks loads of dick behind your back? She's a growing girl. Gotta drain at least 5 guys a day!
Your girlfriend said she loves you, but didn't mean it? She says it to everyone. She's nice that way. She doesn't actually help you with the things that matter in your life? She's only being nice. Don't get carried away.
There's a woman in your life who could help you out of a bad spot? She refuses? Maybe even contributes to the problem? She's interested in seeing your solutions. She's invested in you and your success, even if she doesn't outright enable it.
The reality is usually worse, but with this, you can accept that they just want to kill you for easily understandable reasons. No lies, no betrayal. Just a game of cat and mouse.
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>>562801895
The ones that REALLY love you would let you experience it over and over
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>>562772234
She didn't turn into that until her son got her goddess' attention.
It doesn't even make sense when you think about it. Singularity Luka can travel through doors because he's the son of an anomaly. Every other Marcellus should be normal, so either Marcellus cheated on his wife with his wife (AW), or Sub-Ilias used hacker logic to justify alienating her strongest subordinate.
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>>562772234
who wouldn't
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Absolutely I M P R E G N A T E the Shikies.
That'll teach 'em!
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Vampire world (medieval aesthetics with steam technology) with a small minority of Vampires as the wealthy noble class that collect tribute of blood wealth and land in exchange for protection (mostly from other vampire kindoms) using immortality and converting people into Vampires as the carrot for people to maintain and be loyal to the system only in reality getting turned into a Vampire (wealthy) is mostly based on luck and nepotism... WAIT!!!
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>>562806205
what game
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>>562801895
>i don't get the appeal of waifuing a shikibus. they seem like one of the worst ways to go out.
The dried fish always have huge smiles.

>>562804664
>I thought the whole point(...).png
Because it's fantasy, the audience can embrace that as part of the appeal. The danger, the permanence.

>>562806205
Hey chill it with the antivampitism!
Queen Vampire's niece is a Lawyer Girl.
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No matter how hard you try to build the best cat house the cat will be happy with the simplest cardboard box.
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>>562809654
She just wants to come in your house.
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>>562787673
Nope, as funny as it sounds both monsters and angels and even human are monogamous, high ranking monsters and angel won't tolerate infidelity and will kill you for it.
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>>562812027
>high ranking monsters and angel won't tolerate infidelity and will kill you for it.
and then you respawn
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Meia and her monogamous shota harem....
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>>562788907
>chimp out when writing the genocide route
Because he made the sans parody the hardest battle in the game or because the characters get scared and angry when they're about to die?
They're reasonable things to add to a game inspired by Undertale.
The dev retweeted geno route fanart back in the day and also thinks it's fundamental because the whole game exists because of it and has never gone out of his way to insult people who play it. Don't conflate what the characters say in the game with what the author thinks.
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/143232412
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/143232673

Artist has now done a daughter for Micaela. And I can see good reason for the "clone" complaints.

On that note, it would be deeply funny to me to do a Lucifina daughter (though I think this artist would shy away from that level of incest, though I wonder if they could be convinced to do one that's an actual sister to Luka on the grounds of Lucifina and Marcellus having another child post game...) and she just looks like a female Luka (so yes, like one of the doppels I suppose, but possibly in a different outfit).
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>>562814754
So it looks like people were right, Gabriella wasn't going to get one of these. I'm guessing the 7th one is going to be AW Michaela.
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>>562815019
>So it looks like people were right, Gabriella wasn't going to get one of these. I'm guessing the 7th one is going to be AW Michaela.

You'd think, but it seems not. Judging from these words, they're probably going to make Promestein's daughter the replacement.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/131968528
Can't really think who else fits "already drawn, angel, and was drawn before the plan for seven"
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A society can survive extreme poverty and hardships but what it can't survive is morale collapse. This is the lesson I've extracted after comparing AW/MW and the modern world which so heavily crushes the psyche.
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A man can survive getting vored but what he can't survive is getting dryfished.
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>check out the marriage dialogue
sonya's is the only one who doesn't immediately jump into "I'm gonna screw your brains out when we get home so hard so harrrd"

I swear some of these girls are worse than horny old men.
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>>562817853
What about both?
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i just thought of something, golden route with luka and chaos what are they gonnado about sonya and andra? What if andra gains a human like form ?
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>slimewife tells me she wants to really be transparent
>her body turns transparent
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>>562819141
thats kind of the appeal
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>>562820635
>slimewife
please tell us how all non-humans and slimes only exist to serve slimes and we should view all other non-human/slime races as trash not worth living?
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ok so i beat the succ that was giving me trouble by setting abilities on lest and the girl with him and having him use succubus slayer instead of physical/sword boost. i was also able to debuff the boss but i don't know if debuffs are effective in general on paradox bosses and i don't want to waste turns trying to apply them if they don't
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oh also daimyokai with the save. when she isn't eternally seething at a shota monk she's actually decent at her job
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i know i'm supposed to dislike her because she tried to destroy the yokai mountain at least 2 times (idk if she tries again in the third one) but she's too entertaining for me to really despise
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>>562828325
If a boss is vulnerable to a status it's usually related to what their race is weak against, spellcasters tend to be vulnerable to silence and slow/stop works on nearly everything so you can't really go wrong throwing that out on bosses. For the succ sisters in the collab they have some unusual weaknesses though.
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>>562828892
Terrible people make for great characters, like Ilias.
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>>562828892
She consistently ranks high in official popularity polls and Minwa himself likes her a lot, too. She's made to be a love to hate kind of character.
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>>562829318
i get slow working on bosses but stop? wouldn't that make it too easy since it essentially paralyzes them?
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>>562830336
For part 2 it works on pretty much everything even if it's a lower chance to land, as it goes into part 3 the more significant bosses tend to be immune to stop but even then it can work on giganto weapon which is a superboss before the third route. Slow works on pretty much everything.
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>>562803786
>You don't "waifu" a shikibus

Well, logically you don't. Sometimes you get people who love how they look and want them to be a waifu and ignore their character.

Funnily enough the most waifuable Shikibus (as in Succubus drawn by Shiki, sorry Neris but you ain't a succ, not in your race list) is probably Minagi herself thanks to coming to the conclusion of "we are the masters of lust, thus, we must not let lust control us" and from that having become shocking reasonable.
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I've been accidentally posting in /smtg/ and not here. boy do i have egg on my face
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>>562834453
The only thing someone like Carl should waifu is a rope.
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>>562835080
Try not to feel too bad.
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she's a dryfisher but at least she's not a retard
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>>562779490
Her belly and right leg need to be black too
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>>562835871
You sound jealous. The Rope Girl isn't that bad, anyway.
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>>562836586
ngl the right leg/body/left arm being untouched felt like the kind of intentional asymmetry I would expect from an actual chaositized apoptosis monster; I still have no idea what caused this to happen but reloading the images using Okyuu (or at least her character stories) seemed to fix it. It also happened the day I looked at Hild's story too. Either chaos truly had breached containment or it was like some kinda creepypasta. Either way though Okyuu fixed it so it's fine right?

This is what Fermi looked like by the way.
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>>562828325
needing to try! the best kind of fight!
and yeah debuffs are pretty useful for 95% of the game, only a handful of things block them.
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>>562837468
she qt
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>>562837468
Upon consideration, we need more proper creepypasta monster girls.
Not the random blob of flesh ones we have now and one chaos bunny.
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>>562837660
i'm used to games where stat debuffs work but status effects are basically useless on bosses
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>>562834453
>pic
Til death do us part...
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>>562837997
look forward to part 3 where bosses will get immune to everything
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>>562838052
TrTr's masterpiece, of course.
Why use status or a strategy when you do an octillion damage on turn 1
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>>562838052
not all of them are, but a lot of them are.
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>>562837726
cute tsubdere
>>562837848
I had dreams before of this kind of hypothetical scenerio, with the girls falling into the singularity world while the island gets chaos'd, but it's definitely different when you go back to the menu and suddenly it's just abruptly there like that.
The dreams were never really that bad though they ended up just feeling like 'excuse to see okyuu hanging around port natalia' or 'crab girl meeting'.
>>562837997
>>562838276
Yes, that's true, indeed that's very true........
UNLESS
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>>562838907
>crab girl meeting
they need to talk about meeting their bubble production qoutas for this buisness quarter
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>>562839179
The best part of playing through the Monster Girl's Isekai Adventure (besides Okyuu turning into the de-facto leader as the straightwoman and her and Suzu ending up paired together as the representatives during the final battle because of how they're the sensible ones) was that the climax of the first half turned out to literally be the exact scenerio I had thought of: where Aqua gets separated from her friends and is sad, but befriends all of the local Crab Girls on the beach, and goes on a journey with them to look for her friends.

Except instead of "Crab Girls" it was literally just giant crabs that Aqua was befriending, with the smallest crab being the size of a car and the leader being the world's local castle-sized Zaratan, and the realization that hundreds of those things are suddenly going to breach onto land and start trampling the countryside to find the Monster Girls, will result in them being misunderstood as invading the kingdom due to them not being able to talk normally and explain their actions, and the accidental collateral damage will lead to unintended trouble for both sides, so you have to calm the crabs down enough to halt the [March of the Giant Crabs!] so you can reunite Aqua with the Monster Girls.

And the reason Aqua gets found at all is because Okyuu interrupts the end of the strategy meeting about how they will deal with the interdimensional life form (who turned out to also be a Monster Girl in it's original state) to ask if they could help her and the others find Aqua before they all go home so she doesn't get left behind. It's just really sweet. I love these girls.

Also as an aside I think I finally understand why Aqua looks the way she does now.
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>>562842970
I might also have made Aqua a little more de-saturated than I had intended now that I'm thinking of it, but I'm still really happy about how she looks too. Will hopefully be able to make more progress on putting them into Paradox properly soon.
>Bubble bubble bubble!
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>>562842970
Those red crabs would fit as enemies in Metal Slug 3.
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>>562843261
this is missing the apostis crab girl
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>>562842970
reminds me of this https://youtu.be/-XuNtLf5FFM?si=oa0FHHcClggeLfUP
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>>562836356
I'm sure she's drained plenty of IQ!
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>>562843343
Huh, whaddaya know they really would. Neat.
>>562843602
She's a Shrimp, not a Crab!
Although now that you've mentioned it, there IS the Mechanical Crab Girl. I can redo it to include her too, so there's four crabs.
>>562843848
based
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>>562843959
no myusca is a gluttonous retard
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>>562843959
Vinum will enroll her in Mephisto's academy and make her smart and responsible! Trust the plan!
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>>562846905
she'd stop showing up to classes a week in and suck the teacher's dick to pass
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paradox should have crossed over with thp so i could see imos punch illias/black alice/whoevers god of the mutliverse
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>>562834453
>I do
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what the hell am i supposed to do in the nightmare castle? i checked all the rooms i have no clue where the lever to deactivate the magical barrier is
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nevermind i got it, had to talk to a succ in the kitchen to change the dialogue with the dancing kitsune so the party could go through the obvious breakable wall that i tried to break beforehand but they just wouldn't
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How do I transfer my Shrift II save from an old game to a new version?
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>>562851382
Look for the save folder and copy&paste that.
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>lets make a deal
you know i think one of the biggest reasons i like vinum is that she likes to make deals (when she isn't just eating dudes), a deal with the devil is a common trope but doesn't see much use in monster girl media, at least from what i've seen, but its a good trope and id like to see it more.
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oh my god i just realised lest is a manlet
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>>562853271
Thanks.
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>>562854283
You got a problem with that?
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I distinctly remember mao in disgaea 3 making a similar offer to give someone's boobs the ability to shoot bullets
>>562855945
no i just didn't realise how much everyone towers over him until the heros met up and you could see the height difference in portraits.
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>>562855945
He is shorter then the princess he simps over.
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>>562856861
breast missles are some of the oldest mechanical weapons there are. Artemis A had them back in Mazinger Z
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>luka start a prostitution service at your inn. i'm sure you'll have plenty of female customers
alice he wouldn't have just female customers...
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>hakunen would eat walking talking soba noodles without hesitation
NO HE CANT IMAGINE THE APPLE
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>>562856861
Lest is not that short. The art of all the heroes together shows him a head shorter than Lars (red hair hero). He's taller than Hakunen, Luka and Lauratt, his sprite is just small because it was made to be in the corner of the screen and they reused it instead of making new one.
Name John loves shota and tall girls, but in Lest's case the girls in his game are just huge.
>>562857305
>she makes the same comment as Ilias.
It's a funny line, but it does bother me how many lines they share.
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>>562858849
does illias also refer to hakunen and luka as food?
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>>562859003
I don't remember, but can safely assume any line by Alice that doesn't mention something personal is also said by Ilias, only worded slightly different.
The versions of the character when you don't recruit them are more different between each other, though.
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mgq is the only rpg i can think of where you have to beat the shit out of your airship to obtain it.
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>>562860263
are airships really still much of a thing in modern jrpgs? It feels like fast travel has largely supplanted them (though, even back in the game you had games with teleportation like earthbound)
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If you like her you should make Mukuro your time mage. She has a unique spell that you should try out eitherway.
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>>562860404
Depends on your definition of "modern". Final Fantasy lost the airship by its 10th installment, while DQ still has it in its latest entry as far as I remember. The issue is just how much smaller in market share JRPGs have now. The days when we saw 10+ JRPGS being released in a year us long gone.
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>daji does the fucking lampas trap room again
>this is after the events of shrift 1 btw
kazuya should have killed her when he had the chance Jesus christ
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>>562863862
to be fair one has to wonder if that's mainly because it takes a bajillion years to even make a jrpg. You used to be able to put one out in a year or two but even outside of the big two it still takes like 4 or so years to make one of these things minimum
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>>562863914
Not the same Daji. This one is from an alt timeline where she kills Kazuya.
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>>562863914
It's not so bad having lamp sex forever.
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>erm its your own fault if you get tricked and soul sucked by the 9 tailed kitsune that can perfectly imitate your closest love ones
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>>562864412
Sounds like something luka would say.
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>>562864412
>that can perfectly imitate your closest love ones
With how often there's memes and tropes of killing the faker this is an actual skill issue in fantasy tbf
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>>562864412
she's not wrong
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>>562864412
He's just confirming her claim that she was helping honestly until the trap, though it was for ulterior motives.
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>>562864412
>can perfectly imitate your closest love ones
But what if she tries to shapeshift, only to take her true form? Because SHE is my waifu?
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>>562864412
As if Luka has any loved ones for her to imitate at this point to actually trick him.
Lucifina is dead, and Sonya is right there with him.
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https://catbox.moe/c/xws0ve
Stealth Changing Line has made a short Holmiel comic/doujin, and someone translated it.
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>>562866224
marcellus could potentially work
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>>562866224
The room doesn't have her in it, though. It just has her familiars which take the form of anyone you feel sexual attraction to while they rape you in an inescapable room.
Harpyanon would get an evil version of Reina, Luka gets Sonya (because she's the only girl you will recruit in both routes) and Sonya probably gets a Luka who actually wants sex.
As for goading Luka into the room, the White Rabbit disguise did fine enough.
>>562866846
She'd have to eat Marcellus for that, so she couldn't pull it off. She can shapeshift at will, but to make her disguise perfect it requires keeping the person's soul (not eating it).
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>>562864412
She made me mad as hell, she was the third or second one I killed in game. I saw my friend being tortured and I knew she was going to hurt the fox friend so I wanted to put them out of their misery with the rail gun
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>>562842970
>[March of the Giant Crabs!]
Never thought I'd have a reason to post this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHVifjKr9A0
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>now that we finished the collab theres more sidequests about recruiting the antagonists because oops they can't return to their world
what is luka going to do, put the shikibus under house arrest?
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>>562867809
yeah her familiar is such a fucking bro that he betrays his master by giving katsuya a hint about the trap.
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>>562869463
unironically yes
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>>562869650
For real, I disliked Daiji but revenge was the last on my mind when I killed her, leaving my two bros to that fate would have made me sadder than anything else.
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>>562869463
>what is luka going to do, put the shikibus under house arrest
That is, in fact, quite literally what Luka does.
Can't kill them without screwing up the fabric of reality even more.
Can't just let them wander around doing what they want.
His solution is essentially mandatory recruitment i.e, beating them into submission and then dragging them back into the pocket castle. He knows full well not to trust them and that they aren't reforming. But until he can kick all of them out (i.e, sometime in the future) he's keeping them there so he can make sure they don't kill anyone else.
Is it the most satisfying conclusion, well for some people probably not yeah, but considering the circumstances of the collab and them being lent over it's probably the best we could get.

You get to beat the tar out of them and assert your dominance at least.
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>>562870340
>You get to beat the tar out of them and assert your dominance at least.
i doubt shiki would let someone be stronger and actually beat his special girls who are le strongest succubus ever
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>>562871236
>shiki
Don't attribute to shiki what can be explained by the actual writers involved (TrTr and tokinokogiri)
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how do you get philosopher stones to use alchemy skills? i have around 50 magic mercury
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>>562871236
Myusca is the only one that's actually a shiki.
Still the collab makes the stronger villains more of a "I miss my home, Luka" than them legitimately implied to be weaker like Est and Fulbeua who can't really be applied to logic.
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>>562871236
That has literally nothing to do with shiki anon.
Heck he didn't even draw the entire succubus prison trio, he was only responsible for one of them. Jingai did Vinum and I don't know who Nemea's artist it. It would be more reasonable to say that it's the dev behind SP specifically who would complain about that, but you are allowed to beat them in a fight at their full power and force them down with a good ol' asswhooping, and it's at least somewhat satisfying to humble them, even if one of them seethes that she's gonna try to kill you when your back is turned if you let your guard down around them.
There's more reasonable complaints about the time loop part but the explanation given to justify the situation does at least make logical sense from the (intended) canon perspective of paradox Luka compared to his original counterpart; the main problem seems to be the violation of player agency that it causes due to how much it clashes with the rest of the game.

Although admittedly on my end I like/care/value/etc Paradox Luka SIGNIFICANTLY less than the original one (who actually trained to not fall victim to the stuff that gets him there) so I was not as personally offended or bothered by him being put in the situation compared to the anons who had him front and center to bulldoze everything. If I had been more invested in him, maybe I would've been more aggrieved, but I just focused on the castle interactions.
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>>562872163
enemy drops/stealing them from enemies.
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>>562872163
After you get the airship it's like a 1-2% drop from the alchemist autocollect
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>>562873065
lukas gonna stop bulldozing?
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>>562873227
but from whom
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>>562871440
>>562872295
>>562873065
Shiki Derangement Syndrome is real please understand
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>>562874837
i thought shiki was also the writer/dev behind succubus prison and am too emberassed to admit my mistake
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>"if you have sex with her you die"
>has sex with her
>dies
what the hell, this is so unfair
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>>562874092
Succubi alchemists. Who appear in the route when you side with the angels and are invading monster world. Show up near the San Ilia of monster world if I remember right.

I forget what else might give them.
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>>562875602
If he's in the middle of collab sidequests he's not getting there yet. I'll try to look myself but I didn't really steal materials/loot from every encounter, I usually just took the food.
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>>562875565
If you go into it willingly knowing what awaits you then it's entirely your own fault at that point
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>>562875602
You also get them from auto collect Alchemy drops ability/passives/traits after the airship.
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Some of you might see her as evil, but I see a woman who has been misunderstood and ostracized by her peers.

Yeah, it might end with me being turned into a guinea pig for her experiments and later becoming a discarded asset (drained and dead). But she's got really pretty eyes, I gotta shoot my shot, bros.
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>>562875565
just use revive item after
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>>562877234
I see her more as VN illias royaly screwing the pooch leading to someone who had the potential to do a lot of good for the world to instead use her talents purely for revenge and with a complete disregard for motals
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>>562877234
I mean hey, she is a wife option in Paradox. And there, she was essential to the operation to save the worlds.

She would surely have cute children.
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>>562878018
I feel like this one did a good job of "believable child of x and y" without falling into the "literal clone" pitfall.
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>>562878587
>"literal clone" pitfall.
Considering we already have kid Promestein and her antics she may as well be
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what are the marriage candidates anyways? illias and alice are a given, who else? I'll probably end up picking young prom because paradox alice and luka don't have nearly as much chemistry as their vn counterparts-i liked the "lets go punch our parents in the face" bit but thats about it- and paradox is an alternate dimension anyways so i shouldn't feel obligated to pick alice. still like alice though
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>>562879345
it should be a surprise! don't get spoilered!
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>>562877234
I consider her a woman i.e retarded
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>>562879598
>lime
like the first recruit lime? because i thought about making a joke earlier about luka picking the level 1 slime girl who was the first recruit as his wife. it would be incredibly based if he actually could, even as a joke option
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>>562880181
Honestly anything outside Alice/Sonya may as well be a joke option in some way.
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>>562878587
>I feel like this one did a good job of "believable child of x and y" without falling into the "literal clone" pitfall.

It probably helps that Setouchi has experience designing characters, and the child is of one of his own characters. I should make one image that just collates the various daughters he's been asked to make...

>>562879345
Well, I'll say this. Some options were made options in post release updates. And It's possible more will be added. I'll let you know the base options. Alice, Ilias, Sonya, the 4 heavenly knights (individually, not as a group) and [SPOILERS].
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>commission a luka son
>its just nero with a different hair color
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>>562879598
>no Gnome or any of the other spirits
>no Spider Princess
>no Two-tailed kitsune
What a letdown. I actually feel disappointed. I wasn't even looking for Luxuru or something crazy like that.
>>562881702
They better add more
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>>562871236
>i doubt shiki would let someone be stronger and actually beat his special girls who are le strongest succubus ever
And thus Vinum negotiates. You get to beat them in a battle. While power level fags get a scene of Myusca starting to get actually angry, to which point everyone around craps themselves until Vinum heads it off.
Plus Shiki didn't writee Succubus Prison anymore than he's made other games he's a major or even the sole artist for, as far as I am aware.

>>562872295
This really. Whatever their nebulous power level is, they simply dodge making anything concrete. Myusca misses video games and Vinum msises pizza guys.
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>>562882631
>spider princess
literal who jobber
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>>562882717
>vinum misses pizza guys
i wish i was a pizza guy. not actually though before some malignant force monkey paws me into being a suc prison pizza guy i like being alive
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>>562882903
She does have one of the more significant departures from her original character anyway.
#NotMySpiderGirl though
I refuse any Spider Girl without a proper juiceboxing scene!
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>>562882631
We don't even have most of the Part 3 story characters. Most of the leftover Part 1-2 girls are crazy asks currently funny enough
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>>562883551
>picrel
she says this but doesn't she kill luka in her scene
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>>562881702
>I should make one image that just collates the various daughters he's been asked to make...

Done. Used my old censored beezelbub daughter picture, from before they decided to give her clothes and put her in the game, and Cassandra's daughter is in there twice so there's no weird gap due to not having a 6th daughter design.

I note that with the Emily, Cassandra and purple bub daughters, the requesters specified a few details, resemblance to a sea angle for Emily's daughter, the paint stuff for Cassandra's, and obvious angelic traits on the bub daughter. The Prom and Eden daughters I gave Setouchi largely free reign.
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>>562885331
>she says this but doesn't she kill luka in her scene
Uh... she just has a lot of scenes.
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>>562885429
do you think he'd draw a heinrich/black alice kid
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>luka asks a girl in my castle to violate him
>"okay"
>scene starts
>aieee nooo don't rape me!!!
luka...
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>>562882717
I would like to at least point out that the part where you fight the three of their at their full power doesn't have "everyone around craps themselves because mysuca serious" happen. They had already established the terms prior to the challenge rooms which were that if they managed to defeat the trio they'd be forced into what's essentially house arrest, and they're already pretty well steeled to beat them up with a sense of finality this time. They take satisfaction in defeating them and Hakunen declares humanity is more than just 'food'. It's just then clarified to them after you take them to task that this 'house arrest' includes "mandatory party recruitment" because if the multiverse is ending then might as well get every able bodied being available if you feel the need. Which seems to genuinely perplex the three (mostly from the sheer balls to try and actually do this to them from their perspective, Vinum's genuinely amused at the idea) but they go along with it since you've already proven that your party is stronger than they are and them's the rules.

Prior to this at the very start of the area the majority of the collab heroes give thinly veiled threats and when Myusca asks what they want if they win (because Myusca thinks they'll never win anyways so what does she care) Ilias just immediately says she wants all three of them dead (Of course, I'll take your lives!) before Luka intervenes and it changes to "you will be placed under our custody".

Honestly, from looking back at the screenshots I took, they take their defeat a lot more gracefully than you would expect. I don't think there's any angry seething or anything here. Myusca and Nemea just seem confused, like they genuinely cannot believe that they have lost, and the only one that comes off like she's angry is Vinum, since she's the one who makes the thinly veiled threat that you shouldn't let your guard down around her.
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>>562887125
In the less friendly initial confrontation, Vinum has to defuse it because Myusca was about to break out of the seal and actually be pissed off.
Obviously the rematch is a lot more casual.
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>>562887125
NTA, but the post collab rematch is kinda moot when you can do it in whatever order and you can bring in Est and Daji to help whoop their asses. They were always more scared of those two than the party even during the initial battle.
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>>562887125
It's kind of funny, but the collab does kind of screw up the powerscaling going forward into part 3.
Luka defeating these three at their full power means he has essentially defeated beings that are equal to the Lilith Sisters/Seraphs, which are the strongest mooks of the MW/AW faction barring the Ancestors/Archangels. Luka really has nothing to worry about in the Singularity World at this point, since his team is the strongest force in the world.
It also kind of dampens a lot of the tension in the invasion of the MW/AW in all honesty if you think about it.
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>>562887125
makes sense that vinum the long lived one would have the most wounded pride, mysuca and the other one have spent their lives on easy street luring burglars to their death house and never really having to try. the way vinum acts in the collab and succubus prison gives me the impression that there are other mystical beings stronger than the succs and that they can't just go hog wild on the people eating and play it smart or that vinum has had run ins before where things haven't always gone her way and thats why she always exercises caution and the first to back out, live to succ another day and all that.
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>>562887772
They live like that because they genuinely enjoy a human going through a mental crisis when they find out succubi exist. So they can go on a rampage but it's to everyone's best interest not to.
However it is implied that there was JRPG heroes a long time ago, and Vinum helped sealed a world-ending succubus who you can summon ingame.
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>>562887689
>Luka defeating these three at their full power means he has essentially defeated beings that are equal to the Lilith Sisters/Seraphs
He thinks their full power is that low. That's cute!
They're easily Ancestor/Seraph level. At no point is it expressed that the party is anything more than a nuisance, of quantity more than direct power. 2/3 of them have zero fighting experience.

>>562887772
>the way vinum acts in the collab and succubus prison gives me the impression that there are other mystical beings stronger than the succs and that they can't just go hog wild on the people eating and play it smart or that vinum has had run ins before where things haven't always gone her way
I mean...
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>>562885714
>do you think he'd draw a heinrich/black alice kid
Well he rejected it when I tried to get it from him, but then again he rejected the Promestein and Eden kids first time too, had to resend them with extra money for some reason. So you can give it a try, just pay a bit extra above his normal price. Whenever he reopens.
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>>562888369
Those three got checked by the Seraphs/Lilith Sisters in the middle of the collab anon. They are weak shitters who got their teeth kicked in, and should have been killed right there if it wasn't the fabric of reality breaking apart.
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>>562887398
Well, from Myusca and Nemea's perspective it was casual. Vinum's actually out for blood in that one. Comparatively the initial meeting with Luka has Mysuca genuinely become livid but Vinum, due to being cautious and experienced, understands the situation and manages to de-escalate it. Once she's in a position where she feels there are no unaccounted for variables and they're in control, she goes 180 pretty quickly.
>>562887646
I don't really see how that renders it moot, honestly.
Either way I beat them without anything/anyone from the collab so I felt pretty satisfied.
>>562887772
Vinum is ancient, and she didn't just fight great heroes of humanity before the other two's time, she relished in destroying them, corrupting them, twisting their wills and breaking their minds. However thanks to her and others those humans are long dead in her world. She's extremely bored and filled with ennui that there's no longer any satisfying challenges for her or impressive humans to destroy. So it's not too surprising she's the one who looked forward to the fight the most.
>>562888369
>They're easily Ancestor/Seraph level
lol
lmao
Vinum, maybe. The other two? Nope. They were at full power in that fight, anyhow. The game does not make excuses for them or pretend otherwise, and they don't either. It wouldn't make any logical sense with how it plays out.
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>>562888162
im a bit foggy on the details but wasn't mysuca the only one really pushing for the "keep a human and age him for a day like wine" idea? i remember in the opening when all the other burglars get insta sucked vinum is dismissive and says mysuca should just suck the mc then and there
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>>562887772
You forget, beneath all that evil, Vinum cares for all the little succubi out there. She teaches positive values to young succs.
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>>562888750
Myusca might be the only one like that, at least from the trio. The point is it's like keeping the butchery separate from the petting zoo. Can't have all the animals panic and the meat tense up to give an example of something similar to what they're going for.
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>>562888707
i knew she was incredibly bored and irritated at mysuca which is why she gave the mc of succ prison a chance if he played her game and fed her a pizzaman, i didn't realize she was so bored because she already had all the good fights and killed all the heroics
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>>562888369
>That's cute!
They hit a full stop gap at the Lilith/Sereph Trio and Vinum wouldn't feel the need to keep pulling out of certain situations if the trio were each Ancestor Tier since Vinum actually has the ability to check everyone else's power levels. You just have to accept that they're strong but not "that" strong compared to the bigger players of Paradox.
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>>562888707
>Once she's in a position where she feels there are no unaccounted for variables and they're in control, she goes 180 pretty quickly.
I never got the impression Vinum was doing anything beyond playing games, recognizing that Luka's group is not a threat even if their cumulative strength could be.
It is not a battle to the death (beyond normal levels of victory rape and game mechanics), it is them just fucking around.
Vinum obviously put the other two on tard notice not to go around eating people for the rest of their stay, since from the start she was avoiding egregious levels of fighting. Not solely out of caution, but possibly due to a degree of experience with dimensional bullshit.
And reminder that it is not long into Part 3 when the Luka Gang is at the very least driving back Ancestor/Seraph tier opponents.
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>>562888750
Myusca wants to break because she likes her food to be afraid.
Vinum just uses it as an opportunity to test the artifact for her intellectual pursuit.
Nemea is just there. She tries to get you first by waiting at the door just in case you try to escape right away, but after that she goes about her day.
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>>562888790
>You forget, beneath all that evil, Vinum cares for all the little succubi out there. She teaches positive values to young succs.
how wholesome
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Lime could beat up succ prison trio alone (I turned her into an omniblob and gave her gems)
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>>562889124
I'm simply attributing the same logic to why cross-dimensional opponents avoid giving it their all in Parts 1 and 2.
Weird that you act like this is out of character for a librarian with experience in dimensional summoning.
>"Oh Morrigan, she wasn't going all out. But Vinum was trying her hardest!"
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>>562889197
The collab canonically happens before Luka even enters the ML castle of the Singularity World. What are you talking about anon?
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>>562889845
The end of part 2 into castle into early Ancestor/Seraph skirmishes is a very short window of time.
And unlike Part 2 Shikimamo, you don't get cutscene saved for losing.
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>>562889197
>I never got the impression Vinum was doing anything beyond playing games
She seems like the only one of the three who couldn't care less about that by the time you actually get to her for this fight. She makes it pretty clear she has no interest in Myusca's gameshow and she just wants to fight all of you personally. The only reason it's not to the death is Luka, because everyone else wanted to kill them. She recognizes the group is a threat and danger to them, but she has full confidence that she and the other two will win anyways if they fight together.
>>562889612
Vinum/Myusca/Nemea make it clear in every fight but the final confrontation that they aren't really trying, and it's always presented as such as well. This is no different from Morrigan (1) just being her screwing around on the boat and then throwing a fit when you win her game, and then Morrigan (2) (where she's fought with Astaroth) being her genuinely trying to kill you at that point in time. It's an escalation to show the progression of power. Similar to how Daimyokai just breaks out all the stops when she gets confronted and pulls out five different artifacts. The collab being much shorter than Paradox as a whole just means it happens faster.
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>>562889612
Morrigan was going all out when fighting those three and also when fighting the seraphim trio. The only reason she doesn't on the boat is because she's bored and she tries to kill you all the moment she has her pride wounded. The whataboutism doesn't really work.
>the same logic
The logic they use is "you're Luka so we can't kill you yet, we want you to join our side so just think about it". Gnosis and Zion refrain after they realize Raphaela sent you the vision because you're who AW wants, and Astaroth and Lilith refrain because they realize you're who MW wants.
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>>562890354
Yeah, Vinum wants this low stakes spar. She hasn't had any fight in centuries. And I never said the Luka Gang can't put up a real fight >>562889994
Part 3 happens shortly after this, and the party is right out the gate in Part 3 putting up real fights against Seraph/Ancestor level opponents.
The other 2 idiots can't fight for shit anyway. They may have huge power but no experience, no training.
Think of it like a bodybuilder vs a pitbull. The bodybuilder is gonna get fucked up bad even though by all metrics of strength he could literally just break all the dog's limbs and then beat it to death... but as humans are, almost none of us have such tendencies, and a very high aversion to harm that makes us avoid conflict.

Like they're literally bulletproof but Myusca isn't going to want to fight Hild. Hild will fuck her shit up because Myusca isn't going to go all DBZ Minagi on her. She will run off pouting that this is nothing like video games at all.
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https://twitter.com/foxmofumofu/status/2041529750448132409

Pregnant Yao. Huh.
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>>562891016
>Gnosis and Zion refrain after they realize Raphaela sent you the vision because you're who AW wants
After Part 3's insane scaling spike this feels like a copout. That fight should had slaughtered the party if Zion has a fraction as strong as she's shown in Part 3.
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>>562891427
TrTr can't powerscale consistently, but who really can when dumb shit like "insert character is able to destroy a continent" gets thrown around all over the place. Either way, Lilith Sister/Seraphs stomp the SP trio when they thought they could get away with another massacre.
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>>562891052
>Hild
Tbf Hild is like around Chrome tier because she's such an early boss. She just gets both the main character treatment Chrome does, and Cow Demon Queen's actually good unit treatment where she feels a lot stronger than she actually is.
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>>562891052
I am saying you are thinking of this wrong, and it is more like three experienced competitive boxers vs four well-trained healthy boxers. Given the Protagonists/Heroes are their (intended) opponents it is perfectly reasonable to say that they tried, went all out, and they lost, and then accepted the loss with reasonable amounts of dignity. The narrative and presentation simply does not make it out to be like those three are just putzing around and not really trying by that point. They are. There's just too much evidence for the contrary anon, those three are certainly very strong but they are not THAT strong and they simply lost.
>they're literally bulletproof
I'd like to remind you that the guns are magical here (or at least a lot of them and a lot of the skills are) and Hild also has machina systems that make ordinary firearms look like nerf toys. I don't think Myusca is immune to the anti-particle railgun.
>>562891427
>That fight should had slaughtered the party if Zion has a fraction as strong as she's shown in Part 3
She was five seconds away from doing that. If Luka hadn't asked her about the city she would've pulled out her bigger guns and started blasting.
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>>562891928
I wouldn't really put game placement as a really good indication of how strong someone is. Succubus Sara is picked up at level 45 if you ignore her complete as a human companion, but it's canon she is stronger than Elf Queen, who is lv 50 at recruitment.
Kind of the same thing for Ann, who is described as the strongest insect in the world in her profile, but is level 45 at recruitment, while Spider Princess and Groy are level 50 and level 60 respectively.
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>>562892752
it would be like saying slime princess is stronger than myusca.
which admittedly would be very funny.
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>>562819902
Luka getting Shiki'd by Alma is an unambiguously good ending. She's a ride-or-die pal and someone he'd risk his life for. In another life, they might even be lovers.
This is really the best they can hope for.
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>>562892752
Sara gets away with it because the ritual to give her her monster powers is different in the VN and Paradox.
Ann seems more like some hindsight error or possible copy paste from the VN (been a while so I don't remember if she's stronger than Princess there)
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>>562891052
vinum would be incapable of caring if it was low stakes. she's only invested because she's finally able to fight heroes like she used to be able to again and she has to try for the first time in years.
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>>562893434
>ride or die pal
>eats you
chose one. it cant be both
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>>562894019
>vinum has the shonen character motivation of wanting another good fight where she can go all out in a world where all the good opponents are long gone
almost makes her sympathetic
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>>562893664
It's difficult to say just how strong some of the queens were in the VN, since they had the artificial spirts powering them up in Part 3. Game logic dictates they have to be because they are farther in the game, even though there really is no way they would be stronger than Posidoness.
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>>562894413
it's also why she indulges luka when he challenges her to a battle of wits, because she's actually interested at the prospect and thinks it might be fun. she basically dryfished/mindraped everyone who was cool and worthy years ago and then grew to realize that without them the world's kinda boring and sucks because humans these days just aren't as fun to mess around with as they used to be. the plan for ultimate despair deluxe edition is really just because she's really, really bored, you got her interest, and getting vinum's interest is probably the worst possible thing that could happen to you in her world.
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>>562895568
>you got her interest, and getting vinum's interest is probably the worst possible thing that could happen to you in her world.
this is true but i would also die without any regets if vinum senpai noticed me
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actually now that i think about it it would be a crime if the collab girls have nothing to say on the existence of pornof
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>>562895680
vinum would realize you want to be noticed by her and deliberately go to lengths not to notice you as her means of screwing around with you.
either that or she'd pull the 'don't you want to try falling in love with me?' thing.
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Unfortunately, she does not do the crab walk. So I think I'll just keep the gif I have with the three.
>>562868428
It's perfecto! Many thanks!
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>>562894413
I hate Shikibus they just boring fuck who never pursued specific goals. Each time They attacks the outside world, they does so merely out of boredom or to satiate sadistic indulgences. Powerful because they a big fish in a small pond and a bunch of coward who bullied people that can't do anything to them.I would like if they get their smug physically skin off their face because someone has enough of their shit physically possesessed the victem and just beat them to death
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>>562901956
That's a good ESL impression, now let's not have some kind of unhealthy level of derangement regarding them. At the very least they got power checked others.
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>>562902687
power checked by others* FUCK AAAAAAH MY ENGLISH IS SLIPPING
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drbl5udwk9I
Fish.
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>>562902828
it's the shiki esl virus
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>>562903090
Humans are stupid.
They see a Shiki, and they move in knowing the risk of death. A fish wouldn't do that, they are aware of the dangers, and have a sense of agency.
To equate a foolish human being turned into the meal of a Shiki as dry fish, is a insult to the smarter organism.
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>>562904549
this imply that shikibus are zoophile that fuck anything that move
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>>562904549
>A fish wouldn't do that, they are aware of the dangers, and have a sense of agency.
How does fishing work then?
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>>562907336
skill and practice!
And if those fail then just use a beautiful boy as bait.
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>>562915329
>Luka, I heard some octopus girl opened up a cafe in your hometown, wanna go and check out the competition?
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>>562915821
>You just want to try the food, don't you Alice
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>>562894241
Can and will. I choose Shiki Alma.
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In order to fly you need to throw yourself to the ground and miss.
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>>562881702
>To Carl Johnson
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>>562788603
The series just puts the topic of justice away at one point and I don't blame them.
You'd have to waterboard confessions out of half the pocket castle and they'd all become fugitives if they had to actually answer for any killings Luka doesn't personally approve of.
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Aran got fluffbrained and posted concept art of his mesugaki Daji plus the oppai loli version.
https://xcancel.com/yami_toubatuki/status/2041490339517890920
>Making you understand the tail*
>A fat tail like a squirrel's
>When your torso is covered by the pink part
>you turn into a hip-swinging monkey while hugging the tail
*TN:This is a pun with テイル(Tail) and ている(doing)
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>Part 3 post game released in 2030
>Entire MGQ:P fully translated by 2040
How likely is this outcome to you?
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>>562930536
>>Entire MGQ:P fully translated by 2040
95%
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>>562929478
I want to inject my piping hot white cream inside an angels holy jelly.
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>apply for a job
>HR is a fox girl
>"Remember: we're not a company, we're family!~"
>she hands you the kontract
>look inside
>it's a marriage kontract
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>>562935170
My konclusion is...this is koncerning...
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>>562935170
does that mean you would be the house husband
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What's up with all these clueless rape bait shota protags in settings filled with horny rapist shotacon monster girls?
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>>562940454
Stories are usually about exceptional people, after all.
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Is it possible to return to previous world's in Part 3 after certain key events f.e. return to the main world after great decision or revisit angel world and monster world after beating those routes, or is it impossible?
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>>562945281
You can freely travel between AW/MW and the main world after the great decision, you can't roam around AW with Ilias or MW with Alice if that's what you're wondering. Third route throws everything out the window.
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>>562945801
>Third route throws everything out the window.
Do you mean Apiro Lagos fusing all three worlds into one?
So Chaos Route is the true point of no return than... unless the post game is going to change that.
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>>562946348
Yes, as for now what's missable is enemy drops and items from treasure chests, you can get a hold of everything else.
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>>562946348
Or you find your own backdoor
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the retards at remina split an atom
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is adventurer the most useless class ever? oh boy boomerang skills! oh boy damage tile damage reduction! this was totally worth picking over bowmaster
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>>562950821
It was very useful in Part 2, especially for just having that really good statline.
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>>562950821
Technically job skill classes are worse. Adventurer gives a decent stat/ability spread and has Cave/Desert strength making it a decent job to be in though it's like a shitty Battlemaster for Dex users.
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>>562950821
You slap it on your backline thief.
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>>562951067
Adventurer also has natural elemental resistances you get just from being in the job, too. Very helpful if you happen to be weak to one of those elements and it takes care of that for you. Combined with the high statline and it's an extremely good job to stay in once you've mastered the classes to get everything else you need.
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>>562951067
wouldn't ninja be better as battle master lite since it lets you equip 2 weapons and is dex focused?
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also looking at the wiki master shinobi gives dual weild as an equipable passive once you level it enough, which means i'm gonna put luka through ninja real quick to free up his accessory slot.
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>>562951714
i thought hild got it as a racial skill and not a class skill. still very useful imo, 2 weapons are better than a weapon and a shield, i can stack weapon effects like luka having his custom all elements sword and a second sword like the perseus sword
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>>562951457
Better glass cannons for over half the cast, but races with Dual-wield like vampire ninja and roids like the stats+ap+cave strength from Adventurer a lot better, and Battlemaster itself is pretty bulky compared to Ninja so Adventurer is similar to it there.
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>level 10 of card summoner gives you a skill that lets you take 5 turns but can only use oracle skills
>https://youtu.be/AUnPN385wLI?si=Omg3BrF520KlYZR_
okay thats actually hilarious and now i want to use an oracle
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>>562953049
I told you Oracle was stupid fun lmao
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>>562953258
Oh right, and if five turns aren't enough wait until you combine that with the ability you get from the precursor job Card Battler
I don't care if playing Ten Hands of poker or drawing Ten Tarot Cards isn't optimal it's awesome and fun especially when you pull THE WORLD
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>>562954384
>spoiler
Haha not in Part 3...
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>>562954716
I-ITS THE ONLY WAY I USE THAT ABILITY, S-SHUT UP~!!
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devil summoner alpheese fateburn the 16th vs the soulless army
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If I can't marry Sylph, mini Mini, or Ratty, you can keep the ring.
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>>562957501
>can't give it to my wife
>throw the ring in the trash
>'fine, I'll do it myself'
>punch lucifina in the face and take her ring
>give that ring to my wife
sometimes, you just gotta take matters into your own hands to do what's right
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>>562940454
because most of these games are jrpgs and jrpgs tends to have shota protags a lot of the time pokemon as an example is yeeting em at gods.
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>>562957501
>marry sylph
>she loses the ring 5 seconds later because head empty
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https://psyg2.fanbox.cc/posts/11706635
https://files.catbox.moe/z12mfq.png

Shiki has done a Big Vinum set. Paywalled behind his fanbox, but have one picture for free. (If I was subbed I'd share the whole thing, but I'm not)
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>>562957968
>titmonster vinum
RUINED
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>>562957968
That's pretty based, I'm not gonna lie. Even if I don't like the game, she really is the one who carries Succubus Prison, and I respect her as an antagonist. She and Daji were the most enjoyable opponents in the collaboration.
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>>562957968
>Big
Pass
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>>562958116
yeah she kinda views it the same she likes looking cute similar to normal tamamo.
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>>562957968
shikis lost
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i have no idea who to support here. i asked spider princess to join my party and it led to this. i already have bee and ant in my party so should i support princess? will bee and ant leave if i do?
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>>562963503
What did they lose? May I help find it?
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>>562966486
Bee will leave if you fight her. Spider Princess will join you no matter what, though for different reasons. If you saved before, it's worth it to see the dialogue in both cases.
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>>562966486
It's just for who gets early Queen access, but >post collab >part 3 it's barely matters because you get it soon. The characters all (re)join after regardless
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>>562966486
support ann/bee because they are better
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>>562940454
>clueless rape bait shota protags in settings filled with horny rapist shotacon monster girls
Basically it's this but reversed.
I swear there was a Luka edit somewhere..
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>>562966486
Ann is the better option just because she gets more out of the Insect Queen class, which focuses on the racial bug skills, which Ann has a crisis mode for.
But it really doesnt matter in the end if you don't use any of these two characters.
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>>562969787
i picked spider princess and all three are now in my castle. the more important bit is picrel. luka no. let alma elma kill her please
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>illias invented the blue mage
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>>562971973
It's the least worrying of her inventions in that update.
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is there anything luka gets from vampire? or can i keep him in valkyrie lord
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>>562970442
Alma is strangely weak during this point of recruitment. I guess TrTr wanted her to be equal to the weakened Morrigan, but it's kind of hard to believe this Alma would be a 4HK.
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>>562972323
Stop strike is pretty good.
>>562972619
It's funny that Morrigan was a mess of a character as a Spellsword Succubus until she got buffed to being arguably stronger than collabs while nerfed. Alma however wasn't given shit.
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>>562972950
She was given the super technique and PTSD
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>spent my medals on etemenanki and not the noble orb which my eyes glossed over
FUCK
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>>562972619
aren't the holy knights supposed to be really weak compared to a lot of the stuff in MW? Their powerlevel barely means shit really
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>>562973590
She only gets that later meanwhile immediate Morrigan got
>conditional damage
>crisis damage
>free instakills
>an entire job designed for her
>exp booster
not counting Part 3 add-ons through abilities/forms/etc she's the most buffed character
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>>562974981
Only to the faction leaders.
Alma has been shown to be capable of going against the Lilith Sisters, even able to put them in the hospital. And the Lilith Sisters are more or less equal to the Seraphs.
So the 4HKs are clearly at the top of the food chain, even if you put them in the AW or MW.
Unless TrTr really wants to make Alma even more Mary Sueish and say she is more capable than her compatriots.
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>>562975843
I remember that one doujin chalked it up to her catching them way off guard with her martial arts accuity and gets oneshot by lillith but in canon it's weirder. Still feels weird to say she'd beat a full powered morgan in a straight fight though
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>>562976236
seeing alma body two of them in that doujin was gratifying
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>>562977554
probably one of the strongest things that sold me on Alma as a character. She really is our Nakama...
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I saw this thing in a dream and all it would say was “Kono desuka?” and apparently that’s not even proper Japanese.
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>>562980213
>apparently that’s not even proper Japanese.
yes anon dreams are often nonsensical
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>>562980609
That was meant to be a joke, as if the fractal eldritch cat-girl with a gaping empty void where the face is supposed to be is somehow less shocking or wrong than the incorrect grammar it was using.
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>>562981307
you can count on this thread to never get a joke. always at least one person who takes it seriously.
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if you were a dried fish monster girl would you be immune to shikis
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>>562982183
Oh, I wondered if she said anything on the alice route.
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>can't give gifts to the male collab heros
its not like they give anything noteworthy anyways but these fuckers have their requirements in the thousands, you'd have to spend a long ass time with them in the main party if you wanted what they give which isn't anything unique
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>>562985612
LoC speeds things up greatly.
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>>562985710
i still don't know what that is
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>>562985710
anon he literally has to beat the game to get there
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>>562982183
Poor Lest.
Just hanging out by himself in the corner.
Does he really have no partner in his game, outside of the princess who probably should could have been added to the collab?
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>>562985802
Repeatable post game dungeon.
>>562986265
He only has the princess, yes. Every other woman with a sprite in the game is an enemy who tries to rape him.
Likely she isn't in the game because they didn't want Lest's love interest having sex with anyone but him.
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I hate the Collab Scenario. It was terrible on the first playthrough, and it is even worse when you dare to replay it.
It was a complete waste of time and resources by trtr and should have never been made.
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>>562989516
It was also the point where the powercreep snowball spiraled completely out of control, even trtr regretted the nightmares
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what's your underrated unit of choice?
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>>562991964
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>>562991964
Not related to pic but gotta say that Part 3 is weird since so many people are bad or grinders that even the overpowered units are underrated
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>>562993413
The second best racoon.
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/143074749

>>562995052
Second best?
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>>562991964
I wish Alchemy did not need those stupid stones for their best support skills. At least let us buy them TrTr.
>>562995620
I think he is a bigger fan of the drunk tanuki.
I do like how Luka is super involved with her hentai scene.
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>>562995780
>luka
>involved with sex
That's a new one. Our boy usually is a pillow princess.
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>>562991964
Luka-prior to whatever insane buffs part 3 gives him- has a nice feel i think. he's got a nice growth from level 1 flail wildly scrub to experienced adventure. his trait letting him use a variety of weapon skills regardless of class has some nice flavor once you build up his skill repertoire, since he had the adventurers that stopped by his inn teach him fighting styles he retains the skillset when swaping jobs. plus upgrading his custom sword throughout the journey to add different elements to it and have it as an elemental weakness hitter is nice. i have it equipped on his main hand with his secondary slot being a knight sword for attack.
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>>562998603
greatsword not knight sword*
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>>562993413
>grinders that even the overpowered units are underrated
I'm sorry anon my ocd really likes fully mastering avaliable jobs
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>>562991964
She takes her mutation very well and it makes her stand out. Despite what she says, she's very nice.
Deserves more love.
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>>562694552
MG game that's DMC
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i made bonnie a samurai saint
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>>563002698
idk i want someone to use the fancy samurai swords i picked up. i could use muroko but i dunno how out of place collab characters are
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>finally playing MGQP
>still in part 1
>realized that Roids are OP as fuck
>have a soft spot for Shesta for some reason, just kinda like the bug tank that auto guards and has good resists cuz apop
>wonder if there is an insect roid girl
>look at all the insect girls in the wiki
>there is no insect roid girl AT ALL, not even when girls start having 800 different races
Why though, why is there like every single combination of races except this one?
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taste the fluffy tail
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>>563003134
>why is there like every single combination of races except this one?
Because most race combos don't exist or are being carried by the Alice bloodline having 5+ races.
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>>563003134
Roid combinations are super rare in general.
Most likely because Chimera and Dolls can fill in for the same kind of artificial theme.
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>>563003056
Collab characters do have some party lines in Part 3 so
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>Arkveld and I are the same
Please tell me I’m almost done Wilds’ main campaign. I can’t take more of this dumbass. This monster ATE dozens of people. Not to feed itself but just to see if it COULD.
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>>563004414
…wait, this isn’t the monster hunter general. This is the monster fucker general!
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>>563004414
>>>563004562
to be fair
>This monster ATE dozens of people. Not to feed itself but just to see if it COULD.
this is a more common than you'd think problem in monster girldom
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>>562977079
did that slime turn herself into an elf?
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>we recruit la croix's zombie circus of previous queens
alice this is kind of morbid
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>>563004562
It keeps happening.
There's no Monster Hunter inspired girls in our games, though.
But we got Ark.
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>>563005194
>But we got Ark.

You know a game with a dedicated taming mechanic for monster girls would be nice
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>>562970442
Morrigan IS one of Luka's nicer "precious comrades" though, at least compared to 1 specific other bratty shiki he will go to bat for.
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>>563004923
>this is a more common than you'd think problem in monster girldom
I'm feeling called out here...
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>Monster hunter mentioned because of someone in wrong general again.

Time to post this.
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>>562996010
bro is a pillow damsel-in-distress
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>>563005743
Breeders of the Nephelym didn't exactly do numbers, though, right?
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>>563004414
I guess I dodged a bullet playing Part Three over hyping up for Wilds
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WTF!? confirmed Jobber?
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>>563007709
Useless idiot.
His parents would be ashamed of him.
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>>563009437
he's a nice useless idiot.
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i forgo to take off no encounters during the tanuki/kitsune village spat. ill hopefully get another chance to recruit those higher level kitsune
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>>563010281
They're in a training dojo
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>>563009437
if he's so useless then why can he tune a piano
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This isn't how I thought I would die.
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nero is the type of guy to unironically listen to weezer and hes right to do so
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>>563010358
Harpies can't play the piano, they have no fingers. You are taking the word of some dumb bird that only thinks Nero fixed it.
Dumb example there anon.
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>>563011224
Lucretia can play the piano anon! You know how hard it is to properly use it when you only have one proper finger?
Or, well, maybe two if you count the wing itself.
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>>563011224
why would a harpy lie about nero fixing a piano
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you don't understand how much i would pay for a monster girl genealogy of the holy war clone
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>>563012389
It would be very nice, but the most I can offer you is the evolutionary history and cultural study of the Harpy Lineage



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