can you see it>Release day https://store.steampowered.com/app/3818000/Guns_and_Nuns_Storming_Hell/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3748640/Wasteland_Bites/>Demo Days Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67>AGDG Resources https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guide https://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn (embed)>Helpful Links New Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebM https://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread >>562636453
i think this is fine for now.ill start doing the 2D colliders and start displaying interactables.
>>562718197I never get this "aphantasia" bullshit, are you supposed to just fool your own vision and spawn an apple in front of you, or does it count if you can only imagine it
How much money have you packed away for your summer expo spotlights this year? You did budget for that right?No?Well hey I heard of this free event on June 6th that you can sign up for right now. https://forms.gle/XXCELphXhhYzotTq8And I hear if you sign up by THIS WEDNESDAY you're in the running for a free custom spotlight section. Nifty, huh?
Are pixel art filters a meme for 3d? I cannot make pixel art but I think stylistically it would fit my game and also probably reduce time I need to create assets since i don't need to make as detailed textures and meshes if it will be pixelated. It would be fairly high resolution though
>>562718843
>>562719042What show am I advertising? I never said the name?
>>562718374What a shame. I might still gen ai futa x femboy porn of your characters though even if its non canon
>write a load of code>go to test it>the game crashes because the QA test script had a syntax issue
>>562719042You could have put that report in a bottle and thrown it into the ocean for same results.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qJcbeO3Ajsthread theme
>>562719097disingenuous cunt
>>562719526I believe in this time the only appropriate response to you is... "cope".
>>562718197Hyperphanyasia trannies coping and seething
>>562719783>he cant see the applesoh nononononon HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>562719783you couldn't make that image if you had aphantasia thoughbeit
Now that the nun game has succeeded can I make an anime game?
>>562719860What's the point in seeing an apple in my head that I can't eat?At least I know how I'd feel if I didn't have breakfast this morning
Americans dont see apples they see hamburgers in their mind. That's my little joke thanks for coming to my show
>>562720236joke?
>>562719860i can see a specific apple that i have seen before more clearly than trying to imagine a generic apple that has never physically existed. it's easy to imagine the apples in my kitchen in a basket or the produce isle at the grocery store. if i have to imagine something out of context, i get downgraded to level 3 on the aphantasia chart.
I hope you're not wasting an hour a day playing video games when you should be making video games.
>>562719936You could though, being able to imagine things clearly in your mind has no bearing on being able to see things with your actual eyes, or having aesthetic taste. Creative endeavor and skill is an ongoing iterative process of changing things and seeing what happens. Bob Ross never started a painting with a concrete idea of what it would end up beingas. The creative process is a negotiation between you and the reality of implementation. If you have some immaculate vision in your mind palace of an imagination and it doesn't conform to that vision exactly and you can't impose it on reality, then you're more likely to get frustrated and give up.Hyperphanyasia fags are the ideaguys of art
>>562720391Hamza specifically would've had access to better white females if he just played gacha games instead of working 100x harder just to pick up some white piggies
>>562720391I would but I hate any kind of attention to myself. that's why I avoid publishing my games, even if I'm working on one or two.
>>562720391If you spend 300 minutes a day working on a game versus 360 minutes a day ...that's 20% more. Wow, totally life changing, wow. amazing.
>>562720605>Hamza specifically would've had access to better white females if he just played gacha games instead of working 100x harder just to pick up some white piggiesbeyond delusional, if he was a successful job he can get a wife of any race, women have no country, or religion or ideology never forget that
>>562720695>that's 20% moreIs there any game you would've liked only if it had 20% more content or polish?
>>562720391I mean, even you know this is just the usual hustle nonsense. Why even post it.
>>562720391I live in a third world country. People that can play video games here are better than any worker lmao
>>562720391These type of influencers are so fucking retarded and allowing them to spread their idiotic ideology is harmful to the younger generations that look up to them.Two people working just as hard might never have the same level of success because the other one just happened to be in the right moment at the right time. Of course hard work is necessary but luck is a massive factor. Its overly reductive to present success as merely a matter of working harder and shows they are individuals who succeeded immediately and never had any real problems so they don't believe in luck. What's worse is that they promote this "grindset" where you are supposed to be miserable and work like a slave until you succeed, which 90% of people will never get no matter how hard they work, instead of having a healthy balance of work and leisure.
>>562721746we already have at least 1 victim of this "hustle" retardation in this very threadnot only are these people completely out of their minds, but they also enter spaces for creative mediums, with complete disregard to any and all artistry, and make things more miserable for everyone involved
Took the entire day to make this, so i can import mugen stages, chuds btfo.
>>562710145Here’s the thing:I’m not really relying on animations.
claude code vs github co pilot? (godot)
Claude...is my only friend...
>>562722586In all honesty, what I truly need to focus on is getting enemies and the player to better react to attacks on a programming front
>>562718197sad news: runa's studio is now closed, her 2 employees have been layed offafte all her hard work and sacrifice (even prostituting herself to fund her studio) her earthbound-like with Polish humor won't see the light of day...
>>562723846Is there porn of her
What do you think those mistakes are?
>>562724069guess
>>562723846>>562724069her porn is incredibly mid
>>562724164That's unfortunate. Where?
>>562724164yeah she's not good at it but that's because she wanted to be a gamedev but was forced to do porn
>>562724292truly sad, she could've just decided to be my wife and then we'd be gamedevving all this time
>>562724269https://bunkr.cr/a/cXDeoRpfit's not good i don't think you can goon to this personally i find it tragic
>>562724480>i don't think you can goon to thisYou don't know me then.
>>562724150>I flipped sprites by making scale.x negative and now I lost MONTHS!!I still use scale.x = -1 sometimes instead of flip_h but yeah, minor guffaw, who cares
I fucking hate marketingEverything I do gets 0 visibility except from my own accounts
>>562724569(((0))Д((0))) F-FLICKER GOONING!? THE FORBIDDEN TECHNIQUE
>>562718197nortubel draw every male character get fucked by futa cock
>>562723846she should cosplay bonka nortubel
>>562720391>only one hour of video games a dayThe best game devs are >voraciously< playing video games ALL DAY, and absorbing game design like a sponge.
>>562724292That's very odd, anything tech related would jump at the chance of hiring a woman and if your game is mid she could've just marketed it with her body.
>>562724776please stop reposting the plot of my game, thanks
>>562724480iirc she did hardcore porn before getting fake tits. this seems to be a downgrade
>>562725351You’re not missing anything fundamental. What you’re noticing is a common indirect communication pattern.
>>562725437I'm sorry,Mr Dust Protocol...
>>562725292I almost had a cosplayer do my characters but she backed out and I've been trying to reconvince her ever since...
>Trying to get audio to seamlessly transition from an intro track into a loop track>Spend over an hour looking into various Unity functions for doing it, calculating time samples manually, modifying the DSP buffer>turns out that the problem was the fact that I was using .mp3 files for the tracks/mu/ was right all along, how could I have been so foolish...
I feel so fucking miserable
>>562725924*virtual hug*
>>562725924We all do, cheers.
Code for 30 minutes then one game of aram mayhem. Then code for 30 more minutes and then another game
>>562725924I'm less miserable when I open my soul (and my borders).
My last day of my week long easter holiday...and I feel so tired.
This place feels very weird recently, the vibes haven't been this off before
>>562722586Every action game relies on animations. Your game will forever feel like shit if your animations are even slightly bad.
>>562727953No, they don't.Good ones don't rely on animations to define precise timing windows
>>562727710devs release games and leave, hopeCHADS like fygoon leave, so what is left is a bunch of doomers bringing the vibes down/agdg/ WILL make you a doomer
>>562725531a lot of ethots try to roll backfor example that bitch bonnie who rode esfand to popularity on twitch and now lives with emiru used to do camwhoring and hardcore amateur porn when she was younger why the fuck do I even know this
>>562728247They rely on animations for gameplay feel. No matter how good your timings are if the animations look bad the game will feel bad.
I feel a feeling. This must be because /agdg/ has changed, not because I feel differently today than yesterday.
>>562728251Development cycle longer then ashes of creation
>>562728435I do not care how my animations look. What matters more is the code logic.
>>562727710There's at least one new person who likes to talk to themself.
>>562729054Nortubel and who?
>>562724480>https://bunkr.cr/a/cXDeoRpfGod bless anon.First iteration of the table's done.
>>562727710Incremental game success is demoralizing for story and game mechanic devs
>>562729430Mongol no....
jargondev, how did the launch go?I have seen a dozen other word games around the same time
>>562729324True 500k isn't enough for me either. Priced out of my city.
>>562729662>Mongol no....This is what the programmer wanted. :P.A table for her game.https://files.catbox.moe/1fr764.png
>>562729514>he doesn't knowNGMI
Welp it's happening. Summer is rearing its ugly head again, and with it unbearable temperatures. I took my comfy dev times for granted and didn't manage to finish my game in time, so now I'm going to suffer. Time for another 4-5 months of deving naked with a sticky keyboard and a towel on my chair. Fuck my dumb chungus life. (No I don't have AC because I'm an indie game dev with a dream.)
>>562729783Well fuck tell me please
>>562729514It is kinda insane how much money you can make from a game that took a couple months to develop.
>>562728251damn, the game looked really good in 2016. what happened? why'd bokudev spend a decade sucking the soul out of his game?
>>562730082they have a 2% rate of reaching 1k reviews, worse than roguelike deckbuilders and other genres, you're looking at extreme outliers the average incremental game (10+ release every week) flops
>>562729324oh so bad, firstie devs...me being a thirdie god I only need to give up the gabe cut and VAT, the rest is MINE, and I only live on $1.5k per month
>>562729669Damn, his game is out? Why didn't he get a special call-out in the OP like Guns and Nuns and Wasteland Bites did?I also just now noticed that Guns and Nuns and Wasteland Bites both released on the same day, Friday specifically. I guess Friday releases are the best meta because your game gets shown the whole weekend?
>>562730589I’ve got the current prep set stable. I’m adding one more layer now: a rehearsal doc optimized for how the conversation will actually sound, including stress questions and tighter spoken answers.
>>562729917Every successful incremental has dozens of interconnected game mechanics, which is more than your typical RPG movieslop. The mechanics just aren't as obtuse, i.e. unnecessarily difficult to learn. Most successful incrementals also present some narrative arc, usually with some very reasonably attainable climax and conclusion, which is why they feel so good to play. You need to think of successful smaller games not as "less" but rather as "distilled down to just the most important elements".
Another dialogue done
>>562730589>Why didn't he get a special call-outAll game devs are equal, but some are more equal than others.
>>562729430you can find a lot of her stuff by looking in the albums, look for booba.exe, runabutt or runabyt3
>>562730446>the average incremental game (10+ release every week) flopsBecause they're trash. I do think it's better for beginners to flop with shit that took 6 months to make than flopping with shit that took 2 years to make
>>562731053runa...
>>562730702Next best move is a live mock interview with me acting as Cris
>>562731091idk, that game that lets you guess the review for a game was very hard for idle games, its hard to tell a good idle game from a bad one
>>562730446But you don't need to reach 1k reviews with a game like that. That's the whole point. There's so many of them that hit a couple hundred reviews because the genre is inherently consumable and people who like them are always looking for more.
how do i stop my ai from breaking the 4th wall?
After using agentic coding for about three weeks I wanted to share some thoughts. No Progress post until I've completed the demo however.Current-gen models have passed the benchmark of being "good-enough" for writing code directly into the project, I can prompt with a well-defined AGENTS.md file, linting rules, and it generally does exactly what I want for short-shot tasks and utilizing an empty context with a "review" prompt catches most styling violations before I take a look at the changes in a git editor and fix any jank OR mark any random hallucinations that might be useful.The problem is that now it's way easier to create slop, that is, bad code generated quickly, so I've been tinkering a lot with how my engine and game functionality is architected. So far the best ways I've found is "Fat Struct" to organize game state, that is, all game state is stored in one large, flat struct object that's passed everywhere(and serializable!) along with "System-Based" design instead of OOP, which is when you organize by functionality instead of by fragile domain mappings, e.g. you have one "draw" system that's a pure function of "state -> drawing on the screen" instead of a `draw()` function on many objects. This makes it easy to review code since:- I can always check changes to the big struct to know if state was added/removed- State modifications are trivial to track(state.attr or state.attr[key] due to it being FLAT)- Systems remain isolated so long as they write only to state they own and only read other state - `button_locs` is owned by `draw` and only read by `interface` to tell if a click results in a button pressWhen any of the above is violated or feels 'off'(intuition is important), I mark it down as a code-smell and fix it immediately or defer it to see if it becomes a problem later, as not being too prescriptive lets me focus on more important work and even if something is problematic, seeing it later is better since I experience the anti-pattern.
>>562731268ask your AI
>>562731290It sounds like you've made great progress with agentic coding, especially in leveraging modern models for quick, effective code generation while maintaining quality through review prompts. Your architectural approach using a "Fat Struct" and system-based design seems to significantly improve code clarity, traceability, and modularity, making it easier to manage complex game states. Your emphasis on marking code-smells and balancing flexibility with discipline allows for continuous improvement while avoiding rigidity, ultimately fostering a more maintainable and robust codebase.
>>562731091>>562731243I researched this an incremental games are a total crapshoot, gaves with polish flop while baby's first vibecoded game can go triple platinium, not a very good genre if you're a skilled gamedev but the beginners can fight in there and stop polluting roguelikes. Roguelikes are now doing much better than a few years ago because of idle/vampire survivors.
>>562731358How? Just because it can break it doesn't mean I can't break back
>>562731229a "good" idle or incremental game is one that went viral because of some e-celebtheyre all trash games
>>562731473no no no this can't be happening, joshua help
>>562730657I don't want to believe this. I will choose to believe it's numbers go up and a fantasy wrapping of 'i'm doing something totally crazy!'
>>562724480This site is just ads, ads and more ads.
>>562731548>a fantasy wrapping of 'i'm doing something totally crazy!'RPGs are the exact same thing. They're both grindslop. Incrementals are just the less obtuse version.
>>562730278as a devout christian, he was doing spritual warfare, literately battling satan, and satan tried to trip him every step of the way.
>>562731443Spending too much time on polish, art or story for an incremental game is bait. The only way they make sense to make is when you make them as fast as possible with the bare minimum it needs to work.
>all the games in a genre are trashNGMInigga is smelling your own farts way too much and he's not even able to engage with anything that doesn't smell like his own farts
>>562731691rpgs have character design and cool airships though nobody plays them for numbers go up
>>562732126>nobody plays them for numbers go up>he doesn't know
>>562731548>>562731691Incrementals are basically using the same psychological trick as roguelites but with a slight twist. They're both focused on very fast dopamine loops but incrementals do continued progression instead of replayability.
>>562730589>Why didn't he get a special call-outBecause he abandoned /agdg/.
>>562732314>but incrementals do continued progression instead of replayabilityNot true. The standard incremental formula includes at least one prestige mechanic, which forces you to replay the game at least 3-10 times with new "roguelite" meta-progression upgrades in order to get to the ending within a reasonable timeframe.
>still no keydropa few bad eggs wont hurt you now, you've got a good buffer
3 idle games release every single day and youtube gurus be like "idle games are so sucessful nowadays".
>>562732573Prestige mechanics are just padding out the playtime. It isn't replayability. Nobody will start a new run on an incremental game they've finished. Prestige is part of that one run.
>>562731290An important thing to note is that AI Hallucinations, when the agent writes code against your style guide or linting tool, are actually very useful for insights as injected 'randomness'. When you're writing code yourself, it's harder to see this, but since the Amalgam is a product of a bunch of curated Github code and has context limits, so it'll occasionally spit out code that makes no sense like `try_*` when there's no reason a function should not succeed, but other times this can be useful. One example I encountered was when I saw the Agent had written a `task_requested` function, as I stated above, systems should be independent so I knew this was wrong, but it was following a pattern I laid out previously where systems would call functions on `interface` to see if keys were pressed, which was a needless inter-dependency(they just call engine functions). This led me to rework input in my game where `interface` maps all key-input combinations and current state into `InputActions` I shove on a lists(queues) for each system that handles input and those systems consume the queue every frame and respond to actions. So now I handle input mapping in ONE place as the `interface` systems job which has been a pretty sweet simplification.And for the 9/10 times the hallucination is just a bad mistake, you get a better idea of what the best pattern IS because you know what the best pattern IS NOT. I have a whole "AI HATE" list in my notes for this kind of stuff and it's pretty funny to read.Also, us the Pi-coding-agent instead of whatever editor crap you're using. It's minimal and encourages you to yell at it to extend itself to your needs, so for example I told it to setup a simple socket server for it to play the game(made easier by my `InputAction` rework) and at the same time it reads state, allowing the agent to preform complex tests. Another is `/review` which does the empty context review prompt I talked about.
>>562732573what game?
>>562720391I must admit that when I dev a lot usually I'm too cooked to play vg, and I'll watch a movie or read somethingBut y, playing vg it's super important for a dev
>>562720391I haven't
>>562732703Is that an AI analysis? Also roguelike deckbuilder is way more demanding to make than an incremental, and le wholesomerino cozy games seem asset intensive.
>>562732795@grok reduce this to 1 simple sentence
Getting tired of genre tourists who discovered idlers yesterday acting like experts
If you copy the exact proportions of beloved classic spritework for a game in a different genre, will the audience go>ooh what a lovely homage(like with Terraria-FFV)or>what a plagiarising HACK dev, I spit on his family?
Also, fuck the protocol
>>562724480damn. i wonder how she feels about making a game and her players might find out about her destroying her pussy with a dildo
The cube glitches as it reaches the top of the screen and I have no clue why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7XlCkzRY1EReminder that you can do it. You must believe.
>>562734325See it around the 6 second mark? Point is I can trigger it each time I run the program.https://youtu.be/iaiVAHFb5MY?si=99HrvPYbRTsAhXtv
>>562734485>This video is not available
>>562734325>>562734524But sometimes I see it in the webm and sometimes I don't. I always see it when I run the program.
>>562733996You guys are just discovering runa? She has nervous breakdowns where she deletes all her accounts and cries on stream, a total mess. Stay away from Polish women they are insane.
>>562732795A few other things:You should pick two or three days out of the week to not use the agent at all and pick something you think will be hard or annoying to work on. This'll expose you to anything that the AI makes it easier to ignore, like bespoke menu placement, re-exporting everything in `__init__.py` files(I've come to resent nested directory structures in general), or a cumbersome APIs. These are typically problems that'll become a problem the more code you write and it'll help your intuition on what works and what doesn't to experience those problems first-hand. I routinely fast for religious reasons and these are the days I don't use AI, which has worked great for me.Always do some "breadth-first" studying before starting work on new problems. When I was reworking my serialization from JSON to a binary format I noticed the Agent writing maps of state fields to serialization methods when the library I told it to use specifically detects the type of field and uses the appropriate hook. This is just one bit of complexity, but stuff like this compounds over a project(the levels system would've scaled linearly with state fields I added) and it's death by a thousand cuts. I've done a lot of serialization work in the past, so I knew this was wrong, but I'm studying audio right now because I want to be able to catch these pitfalls.Long-shot tasks are a terrible idea and you shouldn't be writing a three-page spec to hand to an agent and say "go", it'll just produce a mountain of unreviewable garbage and it might teach you some "don't do this" rules, but having the back-n-forth is way better. Also, Specs in general are trash, don't write them.If you do nothing else, get the agent to make an editor for you, as having your own map editor is heaven. This is the best part of custom engine dev and it's not too far out of reach if you use something like Godot(it's editor is written in itself, so you can always grok what you need from the github).
>>562733460What's the secret to make sprites that look like this instead of another one with black outlines
>>562734979start by drawing blocks of colour instead of outlinesthen add detail and shading
>>562731290>>562732795>>562734903I turned off my linkedin to escape this kind of dogshit.>I've done a lot of serialization work in the pastc'mon man
>>562734903Finally:MCP was a good experiment, but a failed one. The idea was that applications could provide tools for AI to hook into that described themselves(like API docs), but in the service-to-service world we've had swagger docs and shell for years were we can do the same thing and creative software like blender or general-purpose game engines require too much tinkering for current-gen AI to 'git gud' at, rendering the integration pointless on both ends.What it IS useful for is writing plugins. As an example, I have a Krita plugin that'll take a spritesheet and generates random scenes so I can get a feel for if things are tiling correctly, have good contrast, look consistent, etc. basically If there's something that annoys you with Blender or whatever other software you use, so long as it has a plugin API, you might actually be able to fix it in under an hour. Even if you don't want to use AI in your code base, I think every artist would be a fool to not take advantage of this right now.Also, it has never been a better time to ditch your engine and write your own. Many excellent frameworks have been developed for the past decade and you can probably get back to where you were with whatever product you paid for or are beta testing within a few months time AND you'll actually own the thing. Everyone warning you against custom engine dev was shadow-boxing with a strawman graphics programmer thinking that anything outside of rolling your own Vulkan pipeline wasn't a custom engine, they're spiritual prisoners, do not listen to them. Instead, create your own ways of doing things and copy any patterns that you liked and refine what you don't like. You can always use other tools like animation software to create static resources and then write importers for them OR create your own animation tools that fit your niche needs.I don't expect anyone to take me seriously without a game, but wanted to share anyway because I think conversations around AI are stupid rn.
>>562737110could you please identify your posts with a name or something so that I can make sure I don't miss any of your insights
non US devs do you use wise ? or just your countries bank? getting conflicting advice...
>>562718197
Did something happen to Chris Zukowski? He hasn't made a new blog post in over a month (the guy from howtomarketagame)
>>562737381chris doesn't see an apple he sees a 4 dimensional rubiks cube.
a hunnid soon
>>562737483I'm Chris Zukowski and I came to post on the regular here instead of my blog.
>>562737110>I don't expect anyone to take me seriously without a gameto be honest, that's right on the moneywhen AI posters come in I simply ask to see where their so-called game is
>>562734485Yes!
>>562725351I wish I could market my game with her body, if you know what I mean
I feel sick
imagine if our games had midnight releases where people line up at Best Buy to get a copy?
>>562737678wasteland bites has 3x fewer reviews but has higher peaks both all-time and 24-hour
>>562737483Sorry, I've been busy with GDC.
>>562737378What the fuck is wise?
>>562737110I appreciate your posts, though I won't be following most of your points because even with an AI assistant I doubt engine-deving will be worth using for someone with my needs. I'm making a design-first game, not a systems-first game, my bottleneck isn't programming systems as much as it's designing the experience I have in my head with all the bells and whistles it requires. (I've pretty much written 90% of the code base for everything I needed in 3 months and spent the next 2 years iterating over gameplay design, level design, assets and polishing.)That begin said I absolutely use AI to make various Aseprite plugins and even bash scripts to ease my workflow or reduce repetitive tasks. It's amazing for this because you really don't need it to be "good" code. It doesn't need performance since the player won't be running it, and it doesn't add code debt since it's not something related to your game directly.
in my game you will be able to eat a sandwich near a Foggy Dock while that classic ship creak sound is heard at times and you have swollen morning face and a little cap.
>>562739215you wouldn't get it
>godot game crashes in the exported version but works in the debug>no errors at allThey have been vibecoding this shitty engine for 2 or 3 years
>>562736981>I turned off my linkedin to escape this kind of dogshit.Sorry, I should've been more esoteric. I'll talk about alchemy next time.>>I've done a lot of serialization work in the past>c'mon manI worked on message SerDes stuff for work and decoded binary game resource files for a hobby project. It's something I think about a lot because it's screwed me twice in the past: once with object serialization(pickling specifically) and again with prescriptive, strict-schema, message serialization.Don't know why that specifically triggered you. >>562737297>could you please identify your posts with a name or something so that I can make sure I don't miss any of your insightsSorry, I should've used one so people could filter me. I'll do so in the future when I post progress. >>562738197Yeah, I won't be back here without a game to show, but I feel irresponsible for not saying something when all people are seeing are thread schizos or some charlatan on Youtube bragging about their dinky dashboard or markup converter they generated, so I need to work harder to banish aberrant perspectives.>>562739402Yolo-coding one-off/low-risk stuff is great, what'd you need for Aseprite? I want to steal your workflows.And I'm not sure what you mean by design-first versus system-first. I'm guess you're not refering to 'system's as I talk about them in architecture and probably like how Balatro is a 'systems game' while Doom is a 'Design' game?
>>562740113debug means it gets rid of the bugs idiot. keep debug on
>>562703087Kind of agree with >>562703268It seems like you have shitty place holder animations and then driving the game based on those. Autist japs know how many frame every amination should have, where the hitboxes will be, how many frames of stun, what is interruptible and what moves take priority over what. It seems like you don't know any of that and haven't really designed the combat at all
>>562729815Nigga literally 10-20 hours working at Micky D's will net you enough to afford an AC unit. Neets and thirdies ruin this hobby.
>>562740367he wants to suffer and then post about it so people will feel bad for him
I think my raylib practice has made me a much much stronger godot developer.Chuds btfo.
>>562740520use case?
>>562718830imagine
>>562740118>And I'm not sure what you mean by design-first versus system-first. I'm guess you're not refering to 'system's as I talk about them in architecture and probably like how Balatro is a 'systems game' while Doom is a 'Design' game?Yeah, something like that. Stuff like RPGs, roguelikes (real ones) and simulation games have a shitton of systems interacting in place, inventory, health, damage, looting corpses, sometimes crafting, sometimes level up, skills, experience system, etc. etc. But then you have stuff like Mirror's Edge, Getting Over It, Baba is You, Paper's Please, etc. where you have just a couple of core mechanics and build an entire game around them.
>>562740836imagining runa right now
My Protocols? Shaded.My Voids? Resonated.My Binary? Echoed.My Prisms? Directed.My Terminals? Edged.My Citadels? Neon.My Bastions? Terminal.My Agents? Shadowed.Yeah. I'm thinking it's AI time.
anyone have slay the spire decompile godot project link
>>562741187remember... no mistakes.
>>562740367>Nigga literally 10-20 hours working at Micky D's will net you enough to afford an AC unit.It's around $1000 where I live you lying weasel. That's money I can use to commission TWO capsule images for my game.
>>562741467Where the fuck do you live? Iran?
I think I will just use a screenshot of my game as a capsule.
>>562741264Wouldn't do you any good to have it anyway.
>>562741610$169 the trashiest one, that's 12 days of 9 hour shifts where I live. We thirdies have it rough, that's why we make GAYMs
>>562742078It would be hilarious if that worked, just like youtube channels that don't bother making a super edited thumbnail and it's just some frame of the video.
calm down
>>562742191nobody cares
>>562729815Meanwhile I have one but out of pride I don't even use it
>>562729815>>562741467for me it's just a fanthirdie pro tip: from time to time put some water in all your skin and stand naked in front of it, man, it feels amazing!
>>562719123can ai acknowledge a game as irrelevant as nortubel?
>>562739130>>562737483samefag btw
uh oh meltie
what's the opposite of a meltie?
>>562742810>put some water in all your skin>in
>>562742226players will know exactly what they are getting.
dont plap your itty bitty clitty silly sissy you have to dev
>>562743412⸮eitlem a
you can notice how it replies "uh oh meltie" but not actually deny the samefagging. jannies banned that indian creature once and it wiped pretty much all of the e-celeb shit in one swoop.
>>562742810>put water in your skin and stand naked in front of a man, it feels amazing
>>562741610>cheapest one possible with installation not included and giga energy requirements that breaks after 3 months of usage From my experience of being poor, cheapest option ends up costing more.
>>562737678one viral video... that's all it will take to blow past 1000, this game is a powderkeg.
>>562743883>pour naked water in a man, skin in front of a stand, amazing it feels
>>562743424>put some water *on all your skin>>562743883>and stand naked in front of *the fanit's better now?
>>562744297>installation not includedyou put it in a window bro>giga energy requirements that breaks after 3 months of usageI use to live off window units for a decade and never had them break, I did have a bird make a nest in one, though. Newer units are also much better at energy conservation.
>>562744297For modern day consumer electronics, the cheaper option is better. The expensive ones aren't going to last significantly longer.
How do you make a model follow the rotation
>>562744447too late, skinwalker
>>562744447sprinkle water on your skinstand naked in front of your fangirls
>>562744812lookat(direction)
>>562744812What model?
>>562744812make_model_follow_the_rotation(model, rotation)
where are da loligaems?
>>562744461>you put it in a window broNTA but how? does it balance on the window sill? won't the hot air from outside get in if the window is open?
>where are da loligaems?
>>562745285trapped in the basement of your headlet them out
>>562745371>he's never used a window unit beforeYeah, the weight is reasonably balanced. They come with some shielding for the rest of the window.
>>562743883>Stand naked in front of a man Bro is begging for the ERP posts
learning the event bus pattern so i can properly architect my game as it grows in size
>>562746167size proggy?
>game starts>"hey, anon">"are you ok?"
>>562745747I had a window unit at an office I worked at, but it was installed in the closed window, like the glass was cut and it had special mounts. it's not like a fan or a microwave that you can just plug in and it works
>>562746349just getting started. not even sure what i'm making yet. i'm laying the foundation for a larger game than i usually make.
>>562746365>it's not like a fan or a microwave that you can just plug in and it worksYes it is you retard. You open your window, put the unit in and open the shield then close the window on top of the unit. That's literally it.
>>562746362>sasha ruskoDAMN fygoons sister looks like THAT???
>>562746680>You open your window>put the unit in>open the shield>close the window on top of the unit.>That's literally it.>It doesn't work, the thing doesn't even makes a sound, the room still hot afThis is me programming, everytime
>>562746362
>>562746365>it's not like a fan or a microwave that you can just plug in and it worksIt literally is. It takes 1-2 minutes to set up. At most there are like 4 clamps you need to screw in.
>>562747026This is why third world countries are the way they are.
unreal engine: 10000 free 3D modelsunity: here have 1 free low poly slop model for free :) hope it helps
>>562746362>>562747040Progress?
>>562746680just FYI, this is how windows open in most of the world
>>562747460Everyone knows Germany has the best windows.
>>562747090what's a clamp? I don't even like screwing in a car
>>562747460There's only one part of the world that matters.
>>562747723You might even say, that area triumphs over the rest of the world, if you spoke the native tongue.
>>562747332>>562747026>>562747090>Few minutes pass>AC falls from the 10th floor>Kills pedestrian>Going to jail>Cheeks clapped>Fucking thirdies ruuining me life reeeee
>>562747460>doors and windows open the samewhat retard designed that?
>>562747873>10th floorWe don't have any 10 story buildings without central air in the only country that matters.
>>562747695>open window>looks like you just broke itgreat design
>>562748105Their designed to keep little German hybrid goblins out.
>>562747945how do you open the entire window when it's a sliding type? or do you just open half the window? do you also open half the door and the other half has to stay in place?
Is ChatGPT down
>spend whole night downloading free pbr textures from ambientcg>finally try to use them>they all look like absolute shit>a lot of them aren't even 1:1 ratio>some aren't even seamless>probably they used a different hdri when previewing/making those textures, so they look weird in different settings
all good names are composed of 2 things:fy + gooncuff + bustpoke + mon
No+body
>>562748256>do you also open half the door and the other half has to stay in placefrench doors>do you just open half the windowyes, and that half window is large enough for a fat fuck human to crawl through.
>game starts>"Good, Anon. You Signalled. We were waiting for you.">"The Protocol... It's Resonating. The Echoes... Neon... The Delta?.... Charlie'd."
im starting a new project lol
i don't want a tutorial on how to make 2D slop, i want to make sexy female 3D models with cute animations.holy shit this generation of devs is obsessed with making slop.and then they claim they are the cure to AAA. LMAO! no you are WAY worse!
>>562748502stop trying to destroy this joke
>>562748661Ok fine maybe I've been forcing it a bit
>>562748572
I'm going to finish 3 games and drop them on Steam at the same time without any promotion.
>>562748381poke + all toads
>>562748778Is that a good idea?
>>562748963
>>562749003
>>562749003For me, it is. Quite a few people who are going to have to buy all 3 if they want to know what's going on in that thread.
>>562730702What game is this?
>>562749150max headroom x sjoyjack
>>562718843>woman>ugly grandma glasses crazy feminist woman>basedboy
Fuck this shit.I am just gonna remake subhuman champions 4 in godot.Fuck this shit.
>>562719783I gotta adapt to apu mindset
>>562750063
>a strategy game>The Aliens are threatening to invade your world and are extorting your nation>You have to gather enough gold and drugs each month>to keep your country from being destroyed
unpopular opinion: as a society we need to stop laughing at CUFFBUST
why is it that in music production you have sites like audioz leaking every possible vst plugin, sample pack, ebook, video course etc.yet in gamedev you don't have that? why is filesharing not a thing in gamedev?
>>562750358because music production is a sex-haver hobby
Programmers got programmers backs
>>562750281I hope the developer never makes another game. He's a complete kike.
>>562750271antisemite
>>562750358There's Chinese and Russian telegrams to download assets and courses. They're usually a little outdated, though.
>>562750551I'm just basing it a post on X I saw.
fire emblem but with anthro furries.you yiff to increase bond between units for stat benefits
>a game about trains
>>562750682Why was he so smug?
>>562750817He got a brand deal.
>>562750784You'd have to be some sorta trainwiz to make that
>>562750682they really trying anything to distract from the epstein files
Remember kids, if you want to be like Solid Snake, smoke American Spirits.
its a lottery
After a long day of working on my games, I enjoy the smooth refreshing drag of an American Spirit Sky cigarette with charcoal filters. How do you guys relax and unwind after devving?
>>562751185explain
Okay, I give up. How the fuck do you get an enemy to COMMIT to moving in a straight line?
>>562751189By watching Star Trek or working on a side project. A side project I want to start soon is an Isometric Game in pre rendered style.
>>562751268Either you turn off the rotation logic whenever he attacks and turn it back on... Or- le root motion....
so my isometric side project is basically a colony Sim. The idea is that I build the headless sim in such a way that my isometric side project is just another way to view the same sim that my 3D dream game uses.
>>562723846'una on 'ick
>>562751189I don't. I just keep going>>562751375What do you THINK I've been doing?Root motion doesn't sound like a good idea for an enemy that's meant to move fast and sharp. Plus, you cannot add animation events to FBX, which are the only things in Unity capable of employing Root motion.
>>562751268>teleports behind you>"nothin personnel"You should keep it as a core mechanic and design your game around these backstabbing cassowaries
Anybody will be able to use the engine, it cost me $90 bucks to make. I'm not gonna shaft you guys.
>>562751189>How do you guys relax and unwind after devving?I make love to my girlfriend.
>>562751256no
>>562734839she's polish?
>>562751268an enemy that's constantly trying to get behind you like you're in a pvp fight is unironically basedbonus points if it has a backstab ability or some other benefit to attacking from behind
>>562751781you can't
>>562751546>>562751189>>562750784>>562750271>>562748778
>>562751513Funny guy.>>562751815Maybe I'll make a copy of this attack and use it alongside the corrected version where the enemy just grabs and bulldozes you.Every enemy with a "Charge" attack does this btw.
>>562751268lmao how do you even code to make him behave like thatisnt this justfunction atk(){acceleration = normalized(directionToPlayer) * speedatkAnimatio()}
>>562752040I want to add pixel editor before I release though. There is an MIT source DeluxePaint clone in JS I can port Lua.
>>562724480>one of those girls that feels the need to rub her clit while you fuck her disgusting
>>562752284It's a bit more complicated than that.
>>562752031
the reason gaming is getting worse is because gamedev has a serious education problem. most online education for gamedev is absolute clickbait slop. actually nowadays they even completely stop making tutorials and only talk about how to make slop that sells without putting in much effort.
>>562747695these kill cats
>>562752040>need to add the text editor firstI will release a web build with some playable demos/lua source for demo day 68, and maybe I'll jam in the pixel editor during the window.
i'm eager to try out UML to design a game but i don't know what i am even making yet
>>562752689A cats only worth $20, are you poor?
>still cant web export with godot if you vibecode in C#holy shit trannies hurry up already
>>562751268You wrote a line that contains "LookAt(player)" somewhere in Update or FixedUpdate of the enemy script. That's you're problem.
>>562750063Honestly, I've been thinking of making a fighting game too.
I get this working right, you'll be able vibe code in C and LUA right in the browser.
>>562752928I did actually, and I also wrote a line to disengage it when ChargeAttack is triggered, referred to as LockRotation.Problem is, something in it isn't listening.
>>562752839>PajeetSharp
>>562753174Is your enemy movement code warping to the player or is it sending it forward vector
How do we promote Christian game devs? Are there any Christian indie devs with good games?
>>562753271Forward vector.The way it's supposed to work is that attacks lock it's rotation and movement, thus meaning it commits to attacks. Unfortunately, some part of it just doesn't seem to get the memo and I'm not particularly sure as to what.
>>562752040Amazing Job. This is why Enginedev is awesome. Look at that bespoke dev environment.
>>562753542I can add live streaming video from the cameras around my house, buttons to control absolutely anything. It's awesome.
>just lost 4hours of dev time looking to fix an issue that in the end was a broken dependency broken on import logic with absolutely no warning or error in the editorjust fuck up my life godotfam
>>562753491The only major Christian indie dev that I know was about to quit his faith if his game failed so that's something to consider.
>>562752673blind leading the blind. lots of marketing a business focus. best games were made before game education was a concept.
>>562753753That's a dumb deal to make with the devil. You gotta tell him you working on the best game ever then not release it.
>>562752807my $800 cat cost 20k in vet fees. purebreds are inbred i guess.
>>562753932I just swing the barn and pick up a new one.
i'm tempted to go off the deep end make something ambitious like a cave story clone with scripted sequences and bosses, a story, dialogue etc. and not the kind of small things i usually make. cave story took pixel five years to make (he had a day job which i do not and made it without an engine).
if talent doesn't exist then why are some 8 year olds better at doing something than 30 yo's who tried hard for a while?the only argument i could buy into is that the 8 year old has parents who are very good at something so they can progress really fast.but that doesn't explain ariana grande, who was already good at singing/performing at 8 years old, and her parents don't have any musical talent.
My tiger? Oh yeah that one cost $50k.
>>562750358gamedev doesn't have cool toys like that
>>562752040Neat
can we address the elephant in the room?
the magic of dragonball is that it has satisfying combat without any weapons/gear grind
>>562754080you can only do what you can do. there's no way to upgrade your talent.
>>562745285I'm working on it...
>>562753753Whom?
>>562753491bokube and thomas brush. some mormon devs too but don't know the names just the reaction from some anon itt
>>562754546We call him Joey, Joey Fygoon.
Working on more tool to convey information to the player. Added an url for character name to show the character referenced in the dialogue.
Most of you are part of the problem here. Lets stick to talking about the development of games by amateurs shall we? Is it that hard to control yourself?
>>562754080I was going to reply seriously but then you named a anorexic pop singer that has been violated by old men countless times as an example of talent and now I can't take you seriously
>>562751189i just get tired and kind of pass out on my bed eventually and then mindlessly scroll for a while
>>562754546Scott Cawthon. He created like 40 games and none of them were received well and he was on the verge of quitting his faith because of it. Ironically, FNAF, the game that made him popular, basically dropped all Christian themes that his games previously had.
there is a connection between gaming getting worse and men internalizing sexual shame. just think about how much 90s/00s devs in japan were into eroticism with all the hentai stuff etc. - that was the golden age. it's the combination of being into beautiful girls and wanting to be a strong fighter or cyborg.
>>562754080childrens brains are like spongesthis is not a talent
>>562754806Weird place to start from. Why not start with something like games have become overly formulaic and corporate, and then afterwards you can start projecting your shame onto others?
>>562753491
i wish there was a way to know my game will absolutely flop and i need to pivotits hard doing social media without a bit of pitybaiting because else no one cares about your games there are 100000000000000000000 games releasing every week, they have a lot of choice but at the same time im afraid that the wishlists im getting are insincere, i wonder if making a vertical slice demo is the way to go since at the same times many demos do poorly but the released games blow up so....basically we are in an "honest feedback" crisis
>>562754080You don't need talent to be popular.
>>562755469Post your game and I will give you my most honest feedback, as I always do.
>>562755469post game, I will say if it flops or not
>>562755469there is a way to know if your game will absolutely flop. it'll cost you $100 though. make a Steam page and don't share it with those who care about your game.
>>562755469don't fall for >>562755642 and >>562756005no one here can tell you if your game will flop or not. that's why they don't work for a publisher but instead spend time in an amateur gamedev general
>>562756224I work for FloppyGames
>>562751256It's a picture of pepe the frog wearing glasses and holding a piece of paper saying "Truth Nuke", meant to reinforce anon's assertion that, fundamentally, everything you do is predetermined and ouf of your hands.A coping mechanism to justify his continued lack of commitment as well as absolve him of any guilt associated with the the time he spent wasted on trivial, short-term pursuits, in lieu of creative fulfilment, self-improvement, or anything else that would have garnered him any degree of success in life.
>>562756057If anyone cares about my games, there is something deeply wrong with them psychologically, perhaps even spiritually.
Connection with media comes from novelty in childhood. My games are built to inspire children not to be gamers.
You are not my fan base. You are my product testers caught in a trap.
>>562756534NTA but JFC that's painful
Some poor soul played the demo for 6 hours on the Easter day. What a lad
>>562756534Too real.
>Future Outlook: 2026 and BeyondAs of April 2026, the indie ARPG market is entering a "post-survivor" phase where the novelty of the 15-minute run is being replaced by a demand for deeper meta-systems. Upcoming titles like Aether & Iron (noir-inspired car combat ARPG) and Esoteric Ebb (narrative-focused CRPG/ARPG hybrid) suggest that developers are looking for "blue ocean" strategies—finding niches that remain untouched by the major players.heads up from my agent johnny that scans the steam releases every week and compiles them into a spreadsheet
>>562751375>>562751513>>562751815>>562752284>>562752928THIS is betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Ad9to5RjU
>>562757224Ah shit I forgot to post it
>Godot code spotted in the Needy Girl Overdose animeGodotGODS won.
>>562757509>Needy Girl OverdoseDo men play this game? I thought it was only for women with bipolar disorder
Why is this his whole personality >>>/v/736509414
>>562757193can i have at least a "thank you" for sharing my agent's output? it took me months to refine it, it makes you guy look like ingrate cunts just saying
>>562757497gogem and snkrxdev are right, being delusional is a superpoweri envy you for trying and i hope your game is a bigger hit than guns nuns
>>56275817915 months of listening to incoming rounds while Filipino and Pakistani contractors who worked on base scream to death while they bled out.
>>562758326They made really good steak and lobster, but it was hard to keep them alive.
So any way, I started working on my isometric adventure 18 years ago in Iraq.
>>562758516>xhe was a ZOGbotembarrassing LMFAO how could you fall for it
>>562755469that is not an "honest feedback crisis", you're basically asking for a way to accurately evaluate how a product will be received when it's not even near its final form. the best thing you could do to mitigate that is to copy what is already proven to work
>>562758516I told Satan if it let me live, that I would be done with at any day now.
This world sucks, so think it's about time to release that game.
>>562758668It's got kitty cats in it!
>>562718197What would you do if there was a controversy like this for you game about no gay marriage?
>>562758920We have freedom of speech in America. I would go about my life just like every other day.
>>562758920>SmiarowskiWe need to address the Polish Question.
>>562758920>gay marriageIt's against my religion then say free palestine.
Whether I lie or tell the truth, it doesn't cost me a thing.
>>562755469if you are feeling unsure if it will flop or not, know that it will flop. if your game was GMI material you'd know 5 minutes into prototyping.
We just tax you for everything I fuck up.
>>562758156It's for men who fantasize about sticking their dick in crazy.
>shit you guys created another retarded terrorist>that's gonna cost us another $5000 every month for the rest of his life
>>562758920This whole controversy was so retarded because the entire game is centered around you playing a generational game. If your character is gay then you can't play the game.
They sent us to war, they never let us shoot at anyone though. It was like Disneyland.
>>562759535just make the men pregnant, boom problem solved
>>562758920This seems like a perfectly reasonable response. The alternative is to be surrounded by perverts that hate you.
>>562759682
>>562759682Be honest how many babies, pregnant women and old people you murdered?
>>562759535It should be a potentially game ending modifier. If your character is gay then you have to force them to have a child despite their detest for the opposite gender, otherwise the bloodline ends.
>>562759682>>562759942They are finally letting us #MeToo without all the Hebrew gangstalking. I'm looking forward to making progress on the engine and games.
>>562760108I'm autistic, I fix helicopters. How many did you kill?
>>562758292What the fuck are you talking about
>>562760108In a helicopter attack unit, we really don't keep statistics. Generally we just wipe out a whole building.
I was part of the Army of One, so technically I killed all of them if you want to get into the nitty gritty.
A aggy-centric Indie Gaming Media Outlet + Micropublisher, but with a subversive twist.
>>562743059>can ai acknowledge a game as irrelevant as nortubel?No because there's no secondary sources like Youtube essay videos, Fandom hosted wikis or even easily searchable amounts of fanart.In fact, you can't have AI acknowledge and properly perceive games/movies/comics etc directly because it'll always look for secondary material.Because if you tried to make AI look for/describe an obscure movie/game/comic, the only way to do it is by essentially letting the AI pirate it, as it could end up doing torrenting shit behind the scenes or even look for one of those shady sites with ads just so it can analyze some movie uploads, comic book scans or game roms hosted by said sites.In a way, this is something I've yet to see being brought up in discussions like "Lost Media" or preserving movies and games.It may make AI both a key and/or disadvantage to "preserving media" because if AI can detect some "WATCH MOVIES 4 FREE" or "retro gamer heaven" site before you do, it could allow companies to detect these obscure sites and shut them down (Or even find something lost so they can pretend they always had access to it).It also means AI can play and understand mechanically Resident Evil games before people who want to be "part of the RE fandom" that refuse to play the games for some reason.
>>562760382>>562760526I'm gonna assume you don't believe in afterlife, I would only join the army if someone was invading, not to invade others and murder kids. Sorry to say but you gonna burn in hell.
>>562760784*sniff sniff*
got my paint_chunk function down from 12ms to 6.95ms today.
>>562760108>>562760920You get to live the lifestyle you do because we go over there instead of letting it come here. Politics are a side-show, and in the real world supremacy determines who is in control.
>>562761408No I don't think a bunch of sand niggas can change my lifestyle because you murdered their kids for jews. >>562761107Good job but that's on your hardware only 7ms is still a lot. I use my wife's laptop to test my game and it's night and day.
>>562761107noice
>>562761778Yeah I know. there are still more optimizations to be made. >>562761802thank you.
>>562761778I'm not the other anon, but I recognize that your worldview is a complete contrivance. If a humiliores harms a roman citizen then they pay the price with their body.
>>562757497God I wish I could talk to the guy who made Genokids so I could learn how to do this right
>>562762537https://discord.gg/z3RcuZap3 ;)He's on here
>>562762741I ain't doing it
>>562762812Your loss.
>>562762537don't be a retard, just decompile their game
>>562762812because you prefer having excuses than to solving problem, Devil May Cris
>>562763013I don't want anyone to know who I am
>>562760784
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3464970/Holder_of_Place/seems like an interesting game why did it flop?
>>562763013I'm sticking with a project at least
>562763327
Why do the people here use reviews to judge success?
>>562763327these type of games cannot be single player.Become the Moon flopped too in the same genre making the same mistake
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3464970/Holder_of_Place/>>seems like an interesting game why did it flop?
AI is gonna explode soon, autoregression, vision models, autonomous.... bros.... brehs..... BROS!!
>>562763719They like to project that their opinion matters.
>>562763719People here don't. >562763327 is a subhuman monkey with no game and nothing better to do than to shit up the thread.
>>562762893Exactly, my loss.I feel like my numbers need to change significantly.
>>562740845Neat.So it'd seem games like Undertale, which has RPG elements, would still be more design-first because the focus is relatively tight. Like, Papers, Please has allocating your budget, dragging things to passerby's, and the gun, all systems that interact on top of the accept/deny loop, but it's still design first.Personally, I tend to make games that are more complex, like card games, games with RPG systems(that are just card games under the surface), and agent-based games, but it's not really because I want to gameplay-maxx or create a 'story generator', but because I think that what makes games unique is the agency it gives the player. This has had, from my perspective, almost zero development since Persona 3/Mass Effect 3 beyond some niche titles, and I think it's because our ability to make new genres like Auto-battlers, Survivors, and Build/Craft variants, hasn't been merged with anyone's narrative sense OR that nobody is creating new genres because most people attracted to indie dev are empirical sorts who focus on gameplay-maxxing because it makes sense and they can't do the Miyamoto/Steve Jobs/Walt Disney thing where they suspend their technical knowledge to come up with new ideas that might only SEEM impractical at first. Like, I haven't seen a game(that's sold well) that's simple to play, but has an interesting market simulation under the hood with buyers, sellers who have different wants/needs/resources, and regulators, exploiters, innovators, 'miracles', that cause the market to shift in interesting ways. Think Mount & Blade, but it's just trading. I'm not sure if this game doesn't exist because market simulations are difficult to make(economist are quacks and successful trades have literal psychic powers), the game idea is bad, or if it's easy and current Indie devs just aren't built to make this game, but I know if it existed, then a story on top of it would be very compelling.
It's time for your daily posture check!!! have you been practicing your yesdev slouch or are you sitting up straight like a loser nodev?
I'm eyeing up Clickteam Fusion to make a fast platformer but want to focus on story and character interactions as well, probably in the form of cutscenes and dialogue at the beginning or end of stages. Maybe even add in a hub world if I can. I will make it skippable for people who just want to play, but I wonder if it'll be jarring either way.
>>562718197godot fought me all the way, but I finally got a cool lighting setup
>>562764650>'m not sure if this game doesn't exist because market simulations are difficult to make(economist are quacks and successful trades have literal psychic powers), the game idea is bad, or if it's easy and current Indie devs just aren't built to make this game, but I know if it existed, then a story on top of it would be very compelling.I was developing this with the help of an SME before he decide to derail his life and self-destruct. I have a universe with multiple exchanges, each with 5000~ securities. stocks, bonds, and options markets (as modules). These can all be queried real time over a websocket. The idea was a "cyberpunk trading game" where traders use a cyberdeck for an OMS, and can form firms to off each other using financial means. I'd love to get back into it but I was at his mercy to ensure that I'd implemented all of the underlying mathematics correctly.
>>562765275Damn.How do you do it?
>>562765353I'm eventually going to do a yt channel and I want to teach all this stuff, including large-scale project architecture, environmental art, and making characters.But only if it grows decently. I need this to fund the game proper
>Character constantly gets under the enemy>None of it is matched up.How in the absolute flying hell am I going to make this feel better? Animations clearly aren't the problem here, there's something wrong on a deeper programming level
>>562765215
>>562765646Maybe rather than an animated air prone, use a physics ragdoll?
>>562765609Can I see what it looks like in motion?
>>562765810I'm tired as fuck, I'll upload it tomorrow. I'll show off the ragdolls too
Not bad for a first test
>>562765275Looks good. Pallete posterized lightmap?
>>562766203Nope, visual shader with a light() function that bands the colors.Only post-processing is the outlines.The problem with palette filters is you lose a lot of control on the colors, here it's all true colors so I just change the lights and textures for the look I want in a level
>>562765329Pretty cool idea. I was thinking more along the lines of a fantasy setting where you start going around with your apple cart and inadvertently cause 'for want of a nail' or 'straw millionaire' scenarios, but cyberpunk stock trading like that's definitely an angle that can be easily grasped. I'd want to short everything, then kill all the low-risk traders to cause maximum volatility, and reap. >I'd love to get back into it but I was at his mercy to ensure that I'd implemented all of the underlying mathematics correctly.This is why I think it might be better to just build a project like this off of intuition. Trading is very interesting to me and I might end up trying it out to get a feel for what it's like, but I don't think 'accuracy' is the best way to make a fun game, or is even possible. If you ever find your quant, give him a harsh word from me.
>>562765796I don't think that's how it works in games like this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kztWl2Cie-kThis kinda stuff is a lot more direct.There is 110% something (Or many things) that I'm fundamentally lacking here, but I can't put my finger on it
>>562763327>250 reviews>FloppedThat's pretty good considering how bare it looks. Likely sold around 10k copies, netting the dev living expenses for a year in a non-big city in the first world. Doubt it took the dev more than a year to make that game.
>Proggy : Stared into the abyss>The abyss winked
>>562766180holy shit just learn to rig
>>562766474>This is why I think it might be better to just build a project like this off of intuition.For this game in particular, it was important that the math was precise. the goal was a realistic market, wherein people who knew what they were doing could apply real-world strategies, and people who didn't know better could yolo, and these types would cross paths in the inter-firm chat rooms. There was an educational aspect to it as well, where we were trying to impart some sense of financial literacy to certain users.He may never come back who knows. Been my friend a long time but I know what he's like. If I can find his old excel formulas I may try carrying the torch.
>>562765646>Animations clearly aren't the problem hereYes they are a little bit, you have no hitstop (freezing motion/physics of involved actors) on contact. You're not scaling the juggles (faster falling and less launch) enough to be noticeable. Your animations are also a little broken and not really adhering to basic animation principles.
>>562764231why are you excited at potentially being made irrelevant?
>>562767139I can rig this is for autonomous factory line massive generation of 3D rigged characters
>>562766709DMC looks like it has magnetic positioning. When attacking, the enemy hitbox is never pushing the player back like in your game. Instead, the player pushes the enemy forward and magnetically adjusts further attacks into the correct spacing.
>>562767413Or you can rig a base character and every time you need a new character you start from that base that's already rigged
>>5627675013D AI model generation doesn't work like that yet
>>562767558Yes it, does. Nobody is releasing the tools that do it yet because are all being a bunch of faggots.
>>562767558I never said to use AI
>>562767367Hitstop I’m a little iffy on, but you’ve piqued my interest. What’s scaling a juggle?And yes, I know the animations are kinda shitty, but I’m more focused on getting enemy attack reactions working >>562767464That feels close but not quite. I wouldn’t call it exactly magnetic but there is some kind of system in place to keep enemies from drifting away mid combo
>>562766725>That's pretty good considering how bare it looks. Likely sold around 10k copies, netting the dev living expenses for a year in a non-big city in the first world.the standards keep getting lower and lower with more jeets posting here
>>562755469>i wish there was a way to know my game will absolutely flop and i need to pivotYou listen to actions not words. You only need to spend 1-2 weeks on a prototype to see if has the potential to be fun. But whether or not it's market viable takes me around 4 months.Basically these are my scenarios>Not fun after 2 week prototypeScrap>Fun after 2 week prototypeTry to build a vertical slice asap but given i make system driven games this means making most of the game>Vertical slice doesn't get much attentionGo with the minimal viable project plan and cut additional content where you think you can get away from it. If it's going to double your development time to do this then it's probably best to scrap the project.>Vertical slice gets attentionDouble down and make the best game you can
should i give up making my current game
>>562770802>should i give up making my current game
Here's my marketing strat (it hasn't worked yet): I'm DMing people with a small following on twitter, but within the right sphere of interest, asking them to retweet my launch announcement. In return, they'll get a key.
>it works (kinda)
>>562770802If you are considering this due to scope, then just slice up the game and release packaged slices of it while building forward toward your dream game still.Like if it is a big survival game, maybe you release a game that just showcases the combat and 1 other mechanic.
im eating something thats making me fart a lot and i can't figure out what it is
Stop finishing games. You're not supposed to finish games. Games are supposed to played and updated forever.
>>562770802Pivoquest? It does feel like there hasn't been any substantial progress over the last year.
>>562771918My game is designed to be updated long after release with new content.Updates Called "Publishes"and also Expansion Packs.
>>562770802What is your current game?
gonna have to wait 2 hours until claude lets me dev so i guess its time to play some games
JOEYFYGOONthats it, thats the xeet
>>562772206QTE Hero/Press K to Kill
>>562772250why do you keep posting this?
>>562772342Sounds like a game that would feasibly have a small scope, so don't give up on it. Just cut as much content/corners as you need and finish it.
Gaben wants to see a selfie...
mobas work so well cause they kinda work life sports in general. you basically have a game and in one match you have the whole progression scoring points. but then when the match is over everything gets reset and you only take a few points with you.because infinite progression gets boring. is an infinite football match interesting? does it matter if the score goes from 10003 - 9990 to 10004 - 9990? no. you need resets.i think that's my main problem with dungeon crawlers and mmorpgs and why i lose interest so much.
>>562765646maybe don't have launch moves that keep your character on the ground? I assume you've played lots of ninja gaiden by now so maybe just copy what you know from that
>>562772425It insists upon itself
It is chilling how much I thoroughly won.
>>562772825I don’t have launch moves because this is all commanded from a single button adjusted with pauses, holds, and sprints.
>>562772989do you still only have a terrain generator?
I started a side project to procrastinate...
>>562773131Time doesn't exist.
>>562773067>nigga doing inputs with Morse code
>>562772425because he ctrl+f his name all the time and when he notices that nobody else is talking about him he starts having a meltie in form of a humiliation ritual to see if he can catch some (You)s
>>562773936It's a weekday, how unemployed are you?
im not fygoon, i just like fygoonposting from time to time and i stole that gimmick why are you so negative?
>>562720576Excellently put! I like your wording, intelligent friend! I just wanted to say that reading your post, I felt enriched with your vocabulary.God bless
>>562773889I mean pretty much.Why not?
>>562773502wow this is just like expedition 33
fygooners rise up!
I hate working on UI.
My new laptop will be here Wednesday
>>562775002If put a bunch of naked little anime girls all over the UI I bet it would help you get done faster.
>>562775602
Did a basic exercise because i did not wanted to do assets.Pretty happy hiw it only took me 3 hours to code.Getting better
>>562775853do da stanky leg!
A "pity interview" or "pity screen" is a colloquial term for an interview that a candidate suspects is not a serious consideration for a position, but rather a courtesy, a favor to a connection, or a formality to fulfill HR requirements (such as interviewing a required number of people before hiring a pre-selected internal candidate).
ok, got it down to 1.08ms avg from 7.0ms average.I enabled the -O2 compiler flag. Remember to enable the -O2 compiler flag.
The accuracy for the AI rig was too bad for now, but I could do something else cool, this is running E2B the smallest Gemma modelif "anime" in post["tags"]: filter(post)
>>562767367Look, let me explain very thoroughly what my problem actually is.My animations are only serviceable at the absolute most dick-sucking-levels best, this I do not deny.My problem stems from more of a fundamental hitbox/collision one, with how enemies "React" to getting hit via adjusting their position in world space, if that makes any sense.I'm genuinely unsure as to what I'd even need to look for if I wanted to do this on a mathematical level.If you want, I can show you my number stats, and maybe I could get a second opinion on all of them.
>>562774106>>562774805Fygoon is one of the good guys>>562776658DAMN good job
>>562777467thankshttps://youtu.be/T5fU7m-jR_s
>>562777620That's game dev music btw
>>562777620The part around 1:09 gave me whimsical Cris vibes
KYYAAAAAAA
>>562778496(>A<;) KYAAA~
i just love making prototypesi would make nothing but prototypes if i could
it's a simple calculation: learning art will take 10 years. making the game itself will take at least 5 years, even with good skills. by that time everything changed so much that my game will be financially useless anyways.i think the next big step in gaming is that there'll be a lot of free games. nobody will really pay for games anymore. just like in music.
>>562779349>it's a simple calculation: learning art will take 10 years. making the game itself will take at least 5 years, even with good skills. by that time everything changed so much that my game will be financially useless anyways.>i think the next big step in gaming is that there'll be a lot of free games. nobody will really pay for games anymore. just like in music.
>>56276882310k copies X $5 net take home = $50k. That's higher than Median personal income in the US (45k)
>>562718197Apples are nice, but for me it's this potion pot.
>>562779349I actually agree. People getting just now into gamedev other than for hobbydevving, are wasting their time IMO. I think even for seasoned indie devs, there's MAYBE a few years left to make decent money. But I also think that with AI, government income will become a thing soon anyway.
>>562779391i once made a living out of my hobby by temporarily being lucky and then it hit me even harder when i wasn't able to make money with it anymore. i guess that's why i'm so obsessed with making a hit, because i don't see any value in just buying 1-2 years of time until i have to wage again anyways.
>>562779616You are now feeling my dick into your mouth.
daily progress, coded a solveable sudoku generator and also a pixel post-processing shader. here is an example how it looks with a few different test palettes. left is 3x pixelation and right is 4x, not yet sure which one i'll use. for the actual game i'll probably make the models differently to fit the style more, this was just some ones i created for an old project i had lying around and threw in to test the look.
>>562718197I can actually bite the apple in my mind and feel it in my hand.
>>562773502Fuck Luigi, Fuck Mario, Paid AActor, Daemon Fultan Suigi
i feel like pbr rendering has some serious pitfalls:a) if the pbr textures are poorly generated, e.g. in substance designer, they just look offb) they look horrible when not directly litc) they depend a lot on reflections, so if the environment/hdri image is wrong, everything looks offd) no "drawn in" shadows, like in old texturessomehow some older games look even more immersive to me than new games with pbr. it's not that they specifically look "better", but something about the texture just immerses my brain more.i think without real raytracing you just miss a lot of shading/shadowing on 3D models, so if they are not drawn in and then you use pbr, everything looks kinda flat.
>>562780283>Paid AActor*pid aactor
>>562780389Why no drawn in shadows in PBR?
>>562780389she looks like shes covered in oil which is a good thing
i think many men are going completely crazy or bitter because they can't find anything to fix/improve anymore. yes ofc there are things to improve, but a lot of that involves scaling something (requires huge corporations with lots of money) or it's problems that are so hard to solve that literally not even 140 iq autists solved it yet.so all that's left is doing things just "for fun" or pretending you are doing something useful, when it really isn't.i think a men without a sense of having meaningful impact on anything gets mentally ill, because constantly trying to lie to yourself about the usefulness of your actions drives you into madness (hard cognitive dissonance).
>>562779624Yeah I think the time for long games, if you're a solo dev, isn't in the cards anymore if you're looking to score it big so you can live off of investments from gamedev money. I don't think projects should take longer than 4-5 months IMO. That way you can still pump out 5-6 games in the next two years and hope that they make enough to last you a good while.
*smokes a joint once*>>562780680
Just take the PSX pill already nigga.
>>562780680There's a ton of things to fix actually... But most people only fix things if they get paid for it.
>>562780997But if I do that I won't practice high detail anatomy...
programming feels like the most useless standalone skill ever. well not useless, but maybe worthless. like what the fuck do you do just with "programming"?i understand that as part of a team it might be useful, but if you want to make a product, alone, what the fuck do you even program?i have absolutely no idea what to even do with my skills.
>>562734903Not true at all, my game's artist approached me after we were friends for years and I never made an awkward pass at her. And by that I mean she jumped my bones one night after we went to see The Offspring.
>>562781493That's not just for programing, no matter the trade if you want to make a product alone you need entrepreneuring skills on top of the skills to make the product, that's why even the "solo" people usually work with others, like people who write a book by themselves still reply on editors/publishers...
>>562772236times up time to dev
>>562781493you program your computer to solve problemsproblem:>i want to make digital images smaller in sizesolution:>jpg and png formats
>>562781884>reply on*rely on
i thought the older i get the more clarity i gain about what i want in life. but it turns out every year i'm even more lost.
Its ludover
>>562782197Things men say after jorking to porn you shouldn't jork it to
>still trying to fix bug
>>562780997
i only feel a drive to make a game when i play something i like. when not, there's 0 point to make a game. how you even know what to make when you dont know what to play?
>>562782309according to zukjeet they should just make good games, its very simple
>>562782648>how you even know what to make when you dont know what to play?I have a list of game ideas to work on.
>>562782648Play league of legends new gamemode aram mayhem
>>562781424Make a game about building Frankensteins monster, when you find parts it goes to an inspection screen where the part is high detail and you look for flaws etcA papers please-like
>>562783517I made this game you benchod
I hate doing tutorials
>>562783808oh yea?i hate doing anything
i want sex and some actually tasty food. that's what i want.
I ordered a pizza almost at midnight because i made some good progress in the evening and now i cant sleep and i have to go to work in 4 hours, fuck you neet pieces of shit, just fuck you
Do not use RPG Maker with Proton
>>562779914>created for an old project i had lying around Old project? I remember you making half of those dudes.Hard to say if any filters look good, certainly not with the high fidelity models
a game about pizza and sex
>>562780997I've been thinking about making syphon filter PSX mass effect
the pedophilic creature is replying to itself, interesting
im dopamine addicted
>>562780997I'm going all the way to PS2 on the first try because I hate myself
https://x.com/CommieGibberish/status/2041280567660961921what do demons look like in your game? it's important to give people a frame of reference but recently in games like baldur's gate for example i feel like they are trying to "sexify" demons if that makes sense
somehow i dont play a lot of games just because iam to lazy to learn them and to beat them. i feel like i want lazier games that are easier to understand. basically something that just takes a minute to learn.
>>562784568>https://x.com/CommieGibberish/status/2041280567660961921>what do demons look like in your game? it's important to give people a frame of reference but recently in games like baldur's gate for example i feel like they are trying to "sexify" demons if that makes sense
>>562784460Pedophile creature here, I'm not samefagging.
>>562784626I want games that are easy to play but hard to master.
>>562783585Impossible! Accursed creator!
>>562784626basically schedule 1
>>562784568Can someone please make a .webm of this? Thanks in advance
>>562784707HE ADMITTED IT GET HIM BOYS
Free idea for Gaben:New and trending/popular upcoming but genre based like itchio.
>>562784568
>>562784836Admitted to what? Being based? I thought you already knew that?
>>562784871*farts inside your throat* post game
>>562784871That makes too much sense. But I'm sure devs would game the system somehow to end up in many lists>>Mini-games from all genres exist in my game now!
>>562784945what an ugly creature
>>562780997Becky...
>>562780997>>562784375You weren't even born then. Your work will be derivative nostalgia slop. Fuck you for trying to turn my childhood into a motif.
open world game where every npc has a partner. and they all walk around as couples. and you are the only one having no girlfriend.
>>562772250You bone-diseased nodev freakazoids are a bunch of little punk bitches who can only talk mad shit while you hide behind your little compact keyboards and unfunny anime pictures. In real life, he'd lay every one of you out with his Krav Maga and BJJ skills while making big proggy on his cult classic that will be enjoyed by many.
open world game where every npc is a virgin male incel. and they all walk around alone and angry. and you are the only one having a girlfriend.
>>562784568Like something you wouldn't expect to be alive
>>562786014i look like this and say that
>>562785861>the plot of LISA but open worldokay
i'm not the target audience of any video game
>>562786236amateur (100%) game development (0%). You'll fit right in.
>>562765646...Does this look any different?I did a ton of number and math changes, and I'm not sure if it's any different.
My laptop is coming from Georgia I can have this laptop made of gold cus I think I'm better than you
>>562724480>https://bunkr.cr/a/cXDeoRpfpeak gamedev performance
>>562786403I am frustrated on your behalf. Over the past few days I've seen your approach to this problem and you do not give yourself ANY metrics to determine improvement. You seriously need to take a step back and try to learn more about the things you're trying to accomplish. You've gotten so much advice and help from others, and rather than coming back with any kind of quantifiable things to talk over, you come back again and again with "do it look okay? i tried stuff". HOLY FUCK HELP THEM HELP YOU
>>562785861Why would I make a game exactly like my life?
>>562786219Nobody has a partner in LISA, that's the whole point of why everybody wants Buddy.
>>562786738Don't be frustrated for me. I'm already frustrated as hell myself, but I'm trying to go about this in the calmest and most meticulous way I can without bothering anyone. The last thing the world needs is more frustration.I actually went out of my way to do some research about how DMC does enemies, and the conclusion I drew was "Actors performing separate getting-hit animations/responses that just happen to be interactive" rather than physics puppets.I'm more posting this for the sake of a second opinion, because I did a bunch of changes to give the enemy a more defined and concrete set of states for taking damage.
>>562787020>most meticulous way I canwhat about your approach is meticulous? You don't give shit to anybody beyond "it look okay?" and you've gotten a ton of fucking suggestions back about what to do and yet not once have i seen you acknowledge any of them unless it's at the end of a massive argument. You've gotten 2nd, 3rd, and 4th opinions and yet here you are coming back clearly having not tried any of the shit suggested to you. You keep asking everyone here to try and analyze your visuals without giving them ANY visibility into the engine configuration or anything. You're the user equivalent of a bug report that says "GAME BROKEN, REFUNDED" WITH ZERO FUCKING CONTEXT
>>562786236this is why you make your own game that only you are the audience for
>>562787304Can I be completely fair with you? Like, overwhelmingly honest? I have a massive, overwhelming issue with sharing anything resembling personal information. I panic at the idea of someone being able to track me, and I know it's an utterly irrational anxiety, but it prevents me from sharing anything with anyone who could trace me. IDK why the fuck this prevents me from sharing code, but I get so utterly panicked about it that it's actually caused me to have nervous breakdowns. Which I think is deeply troubling and I need to work on.Also, I did try two of the things suggested.>>562767367>>562767464Specifically I'm getting closer to implementing magnetic positioning and juggle scaling, mainly because they were related to my problem of enemy positioning.Thanks for that, whoever those are, because they actually DO make it feel betterAnimations are something I know for a 110% fucking FACT could and SHOULD be massively improved upon, so telling me that as advice is like trying to act like the sky being blue is a big revelation. Right now I'm more focused on getting it to generally WORK like DMC, not LOOK like it because I know that's far beyond my short-term reach or abilities, but the former is generally more in the ballpark of being doable for someone with minimal resources.You're a pal.
>>562788126https://doujins.com/original-doujins-series/as-my-female-classmates-says-83051#this as a game
>>562785401i dont care nigga
Hey bros! Been a long time since I've posted.I added a tool gun to fuck around with
>>562788407>sharing anything resembling personal informationWe already know you're a 24 year old living in Tennessee with two sisters, one of whom is an animator. If anyone really cared, I bet that would be enough to narrow it down to less than 10 names through just OSINT.
>>562788635Niceu
>>562788712Wrong state mf
>>562788635
>>562788407you need to get a sense of perspective and lose the misplaced self-importance. Unless you’re rolling your own engine nobody would know or care who you are. You’re talking exclusively about game development not abrahamic religion so nobody is coming to Martyr you for your beliefs. Pleas give people some kind of basis to assist you beyond just looking at stuff. I get it. I really get it. That’s not a healthy way to live your life and you can see now at this moment, how it only serves to undermine YOU
>>562788635Oh hey its the furry NV clone guy
Well, I got the perk system to work how I wanted it to. Now I need to do the UI for the cards and the loading screen and also make all of the perks.
That image of the cat with the raised eyebrow has never been used for a good post. Ever.
>>562789201
>>562788635kino kuno unreal doubters in shambles
I'm having a panic attack as we speak. Time to delete my game, it will never be good enough.
survival game where you secretly live in someones home
>>562789336be sure to keep a backup or two for when you come down
>>562788985This actually leads into another severe complex I have:I deeply desire help with my problems but whenever someone offers it I freak out and back out because I'm afraid of being a burden or inconvenience.It's absolutely awful to know you need help but have a pathologic belief that anyone helping you is a waste of their time and you should best not even ask, thus leaving me stuck in this awful half-state where I can't, as you said "Help them help me."
>>562789379https://store.steampowered.com/app/3549140/My_Stranger_Family/
>>562789379Like Parasite?
>>562789379survival game where you're secretly a parasite living inside the character you think you're playing as
>>562789435so do you need help or is this you feeding into your own issues to ensure they keep festering?
>>562788714>>562789291Thanks bros!>>562789008Yeah!>>562788880
>>562789767I genuinely wish I knew. It feels like the latter honestly.Like, it's like that fucking Howie comic but worse because I know for a fact I have a problem but I cannot for the life of me go the extra mile to actually ask for help because my brain is always telling me "They have way better things to do with their time than help you, stop asking."And whenever I do ask, I freak out because I get to this state where I'm all "What the hell do I do? They're going to get mad at me!" Like a fucking retarded child.It's something that's been ingrained in me since I was a child, to the point that>I never gave a Christmas list>I never asked for anything on my birthday>I actively rejected the idea of a rewardTLDR I have a severe and incredibly unhealthy complex centered around the idea of someone helping me, and worse yet I'm fully aware of it but cannot find a way out.I have no mouth and I must scream
>>562789942instead of dwelling on your neuroses for paragraphs at a time you should quiet your mind and just like make game
>>562790019You are correct. It just feels good to get that feeling out in the open at least
>>562789479Looks kino.
>>562789942I know I just laid into you, but please hear me out. Go to a general practitioner, not even a psychologist, express your cognitive dysfunction and ask to try a low does of medication to help you with ADHD. It's not a shot in the dark, the only reason you're pissing me off is because I had to suffer through this myself. Save yourself the time.
>>562790221How bad was it?
>>562790308being un-medicated and having issues or going to the doctor?
>>562788635Got a kinda gmod style spawn menu now too!
>>562790380The former? You said you had a similar issue once
>>562789379Why would I make a game exactly like my life?
>>562790492Iz gud, me like
>>562790493It was miserable. I let my problems compound upon themselves for years to the point where I was going to make a permanent mistake. Through some God given moment of clarity I realized my self-loathing came from my inability to accomplish things I set my mind to because of my deficit. After fighting through the anxiety of getting myself to go to a doctor, I told them in simple terms that I was frustrated with myself for my inability to get what I wanted done, and that I just wanted some minor assistance and that's all it took to get my life on track. Don't wait. Just do it now and get your life back if this is something you struggle with.
>>562790492HalfLoaf 3
>>562790756Sounds about accurate. Thanks for being open
>>562790867I'm sorry I was an asshole, but it comes from a genuine desire for you to succeed.
>>562791310You weren't even top 1000 assholes I've seen on this site, you aight
>>562790670Thanks!>>562790827lol
After working with Godot for 2 years I've come to realize I fucking hate Godot
>>562791836It is what it is. The alternatives are worse.
>>562791836Whenever someone says Godot I think of the AA character and it's deeply funny to just imagine Godot doing programming work
>>562788635>>562790492does he know?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDR0oKVSh3A
>>562791747Anyways, I'm going to crawl back into my little gamedev cave
>>562791836I have never used it and I hate it just from hearing about it. I hate the name too! Guhdough
>>562792080Oh yeah I'm actually super stoked about it! I might make my next game on it or maybe a side game. In too deep on this one to migrate now tho
>>562792284I prefer gah doughas in you gah dough have it
Gah DUU
Welp, it this feels a lot better now.I listened to as much of the advice as I could reasonably fit in within the framework, and after a few passes this feels like it's on the verge of being a pretty solid combat basis. Feels a lot snappier and more controlledThanks for the help.
PSA to anyone posting why your game floppedhttps://files.catbox.moe/3qlvad.mp4
>>562794659I have no idea who this character is btw
>>562794562https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt42NYQuuVA
>>562794562Still looks like shit. The player's hit response animation is way too delayed. It doesn't even start until after the enemy off the screen from the charge. Are you queuing in the animation instead of letting it interrupt immediately?
mmyep... that's a dog alright
>>562795220better than using an asset pack that people have seen a kabillion time.
>>562795220worse than an asset pack that people have seen a gorjillion times
>>562795220where are the big floofers
>>562795220dogs have fronds, where are the fronds?
horror sex game
bro i'm so tired about trying all day to get me to dev. i'll just take a break from even wanting to. just gonna make it my goal to do nothing productive all month. can't lose if you don't play.
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>>562795038It does interrupt. I think that a better way to go about this might be to create a flinching thing on a separate layer, as well as entirely remove any transition time.Maybe I should MAKE the stun a blended layer entirely!
cocky go boing boing for cunny gamerino
>>562796582*funnymy bad guys
>>562796690just delete that message and all is forgiven.
>>562796175sakurai will throw in the towel before I do.
>>562796284I just remembered that Sakurai had some pretty good lessons on animation design. You should definitely watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xHE3ypX96U&list=PLgKCjZ2WsVLQ3AFFCkbSXKhsvH1Z7WFXn&index=10
>>562796836I can't do that
>>562796175why is he so angry
>>562797093>チッ…あぁん!?ゲーム作るってのはよォ…なんでこんなにクソ難ズカシイんだよ、コラァ!!!グワァァ!マジでやってらんねぇぜ、ダボがッsakurai-san, relax.
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>>562797093I actually looked at this series when animating my attacks, as well as advice from my sister on how to do good motion, which helped a ton. The whole "Rest pose > Wind up > Attack > Follow-through." Which is pretty much what my sister told me. Probably should've listened to her the first time.Probably should've taken a closer look at this
>>562797193>>562797387Because gamedev is a very difficult jobby, and you're not taking it seriously enough.
>>562797465He says in Smash, the character reaches the full "damage taken" pose within 3 frames. Yours is taking several dozen.
>>562797387amazing how my 8GB videocard can translate this to english
>>562797630I just decided to take that advice and moved the "Full damage" pose to around 5 frames, with the remainder dedicated to the aftermath/reeling, as well as speed up the Hit animation speed, along with creating 4 directional flinches.Hope I can implement them
>>562733460It depends if you do it well or poorly. If it's done poorly people react badly. If it's done well they like it. It doesn't matter that in both cases you're copying art from another game.>>562734979It's called being good at pixel art.
>>562797478But what if you're not and are more doing it for the sake of showing what you can do?
>>562798051You won't do shit.
Still trying to fix bug
i feel like i'm too lazy to just learn with first principles thinking and trial and error. i want someone with experience to teach me. although that is usually the norm in our world. learning from others is extremely valuable.but e.g. when i search "how to model a house", "how to model furniture" (especially for games), i barely find anything. often just ugly ass 3D models made by someone who just learned a bit of blender and starts to make tutorials.there is probably more out there. but youtube completely changed their search algorithm. everything is popularity/algorithm based now, even search results. even when you search something specific, you just get the popular stuff in the genre. even worse, most results now are meta-talk, like "will there be 3d modeling jobs in the future?" or "how to use ai to make 3D models?". even when you dont even search for that.i can blame myself for not just learning by trial and error, but seriously trial and error takes more time, and if i need another 10 years to make a game, then AI actually will be good enough by that time lmao.
>>562797745i have 8gb but I assume it would be slow as? what ai? I have a 1070
>>562797408sakura...
i keep having thoughts if i should just quit unity/unreal and try to make a roblox game. i'll get to use free assets, i can easily share it, have better level building tools etc.maybe it'll be less cool, but more fun and a bit less demanding, more chill.
>>562798532I have had success with this guy https://www.youtube.com/@DerekElliott/videos shame blender probably changed the UI a bit since these videos.. still probably worth a look.
>>562798915thx, yeah version doesnt matter, its the same functions
>>562798849might as well use Sandbox at that point.
>>562794562In the future design the enemy attacks so they begin from a distance and have some travel, that will help with the overlap stuff. Big issue is you and the enemy are both running up to close range before attacking so you slam into each other. This bird thing could have an attack where it jumps at you from a distance and swings it’s claws fast like a chicken. Then you’ve got a chance to dodge and punish, and you naturally won’t want to approach because you’ll want to bait attacks like that.
>>562798608The new released smallest Gemma 4 model runs fine on my CPU from 2012.https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/releases/tag/b8683https://huggingface.co/unsloth/gemma-4-E2B-it-GGUF (3.17GB)This command automatically downloads the model above.\llama-server.exe hf unsloth/gemma-4-E2B-it-GGUF:UD-Q4_K_XL --temp 1.0 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 64 --min-p 0.00 --host 0.0.0.0 --port 8080 --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v q8_0 --cpu-strict 1 --threads 4 --threads-batch 4 --repack --ctx-size 8192 --draft 0 --no-mmap -fa 1 --mlock --reasoning off
>>562798979his channel is quite 'product render' focused, but that might be a good thing?(quality wise), he explains his thinking so well. I found the headphone one quite good.
>>562799097I mean it already DOES have that kind of attack actually.
>>562798849We should all be making Roblox games that’s where all the money is at
>>562799579The clip shows a jump but it’s triggered up close like all the other attacks. Have the bird pause like 10m away and do a big over animated wind up jump, then swing it’s claws furiously until it’s well past the player. This is a big critter so it’s gotta feel heavy and it’s attacks purposeful otherwise you’ll have the dreaded “floaty” feeling.
>>562799580Probably because it's freeeeee
>>562799268It's kind of crazy that we effectively have a little google on small local models. if the internet ever goes down or gets wiped out we'll always have something this probably means more to a thirdie than me but very cool regardless
>>562799268thanks so much, it didn't pick up on dabo(idiot) though, delinquents in the kansai region would say it. it's more common to hear 'aho'
>>562799736So make it more of a mult-hit? Not a bad idea. Would require some re-animation, but it's not a bad concept.Given how my attacks work via the animation events, I can probably pull that off.
>>562799886That reminds me, I should probably get to work on the crazy-fuckass thing the Chicken can do
>>562799830Yup. I just wanted to show how decent and usable the smallest model even is on a CPU nonetheless. It would go super fast on a 1070 too.>>562799882Here's a bigger model Gemma4 26B-A4B it still runs at like 6 tokens / second on a CPU.
>>562786953Buddy is an asshole bitch
I've also tried the 26B and it can vibecode and use Claude Code really well too as long as you get decent t/s up to 100 t/s.
>>562800253naisu
>>562795565>>>562795649the wutalso >broken normals alreadyit's over
>>562800605Bwoken nowmals
Several steps forward in a universal translator system with AI like in Star Trek. Meta Glasses for text translation and auto translating Airpods is the future of foreign american travelers.
I gotta fix this little guy's ragdoll at some point
>>562800915slav jank
>>562800910Cool
Are we seeing a revival of /agdg/ right now? How long has it been since this much progress was posted and from new games?
>>562801325Indie Renaissance is birthed here. This will be a popular venue where many great indie devs come out of.Podcasts where people say "So you were one of the OG's of /agdg/ back before it was a tourist location right? Those devs were seriously high level."
>>562801325Mina the Hollower is nine eleven for the entire indie scene which will disrupt the thread's morale
>>562801690>pixelshit
>>562801325bites and nuns doing alright has done wonders for the moral of kusoge developers
>the nodevs are fantasizing about coat-tailing off of other people's work again
nodev, agdg and chill. that's how i love it.
there's a bunch of things i could yesdev right now but they lead nowhere other than on my pile of abandoned games.i k
>FROM THE CRABS WHO CRABBED NUNS AND GUNS COMES AN EXCITING NEW GAME IDEA
>Make progress>Feel on cloud 9>Get depressed 10 minutes later when I hit a wallI can't keep being in this loop
>>562802642The pile must grow.
>>562802819I know the feel. I gained so much performance on my code today. got it down from 12ms to 0.8ms.And then I ran into a bug which locked my entire display. That's first on the list to do tomorrow.
>>562803750I'm not actually depressed though. I'm still happy about the speed up.
bro iam so hungry, but whatever i eat i still feel hungry and cant think of anything i'd want.ok what i'd really want is some 500 dollar steak, but i cant afford that.
imagine this type of chat/thread, but they are all your team members and you actually work on a game
>this made millionsstore.steampowered.com/app/2239150>this made penniesstore.steampowered.com/app/2529290It's literally the same game and artstyle though. Is this entire industry just gambling?
>>562804252
>>562804094I usually just get a Daves Triple no ketchup or mayo>>562804193I've said it before but I wonder if we all collaborated on a random anons project, how much progress could we make in the span of like a day?>>562804252Thronefall is way more visually distinct?
I'm building a game that she would be delighted to play. And, she will also co-create it with me.I remember stumbling into Digital Houses such as SWG Houses or Neverwinter Nights Houses and I felt her there. I didn't know what it was at the time ,but now I know. It's that effervescent airy elegance.She's my co-creator and I love her.
>>562795038This any better? I got this done like 2 hours ago but hey
>>562773502where is jj902?
>>562804252she forgot to post her feet. simple as
>>562804754Meh. It still looks jank af. If you look frame-by-frame at the animation starting from ~10s, your player is stuck in the middle of his swing animation while getting hit, and then plays the hit received animation well after the chicken is done and already recovering into his next move.
>>562805058I agree. My biggest issues have always stemmed from characters not committing to things. I need to get the character to not be able to attack when he's stunned
>>562804252honest opinion? i think people play something because they feel like it. they dont make a list of pros and cons of why they buy something. when i was a kid i bought the game "Earth 2160" just because the box had a blinking light and it looked like a cool space thingy.actually the slightest things can kill a vibe.i think the brain is a very weird association-computer. and it associates all sorts of things based on cultural context (events, language, art, behavior, education etc.)associations are everything for our brain. it's not a calculator.
>>562805225>not committing to things.The character isn't a person. He doesn't have a personality. He's a STATE MACHINE inside a COMPUTER PROGRAM. He only does exactly what you programmed him to do.
>>562805328I know. I've just always struggled to get them to COMMIT to an attack, a direction, and so on.Currently I'm struggling with how they won't get back up after being juggled
>>562805468Do you even have a state machine, or is it just a bunch of random flags? Maybe you'd be better off directly using Unity's animation state machine to govern the character state. It can't be worse than whatever shit you wrote yourself.
>>562784227It was like 4 months ago i made them and that project is already completed. I think it'll look better if I add some sort of painterly blur to the shader before pixelation like kuwahara filter and use less detailed models and textures but will have to try when I get back from work
>>562805713State machine
How long until Steam gets this bad?
>>562805874Amazon has always been dogshit because they allow anything even fake scam products. Steam at least tests the game before letting you sell it there
>>562805874
>>562805874AI fags think this is a good thing btw
>>562806246I have no name in mind for my game beyond the fact that it's going to have the word "Festival" in it.Free shrugs
>>562805874ai killed self publishing
>>562806246I keep telling people to use unique names. If someone sees "BLOODFART MALL CRUSADE" they'll be way more likely to click it rather than some generic Ghost of the void
>>562804252I've seen ads for Thronefall on my facebook mobile app... they must have put their money into even more advertising for a mobile version or something
>>562806869BLOODFART SURVIVORS TD
>>562807006>a mobile version or somethingyou are better off not knowing what that is you liar you know!
>>562807329some chink scam/rip off I'm sure
What are some evil dark patterns I can add to my game to make people addicted to it
>devving a game just so i can fish up cute trannies and sext them on discordI don’t regret it desu
>>562807683multiplayer that works without having friends
>>562807893>>devving a game just so i can fish up cute trannies and sext them on discord>I don’t regret it desu
i think i'll never solodev again. i gave up on the idea. not sure why it took me almost 10 years.
>>562807683https://www.darkpattern.games/
>>562808010all of those require a multiplayer game with a big community
>>562808010>Complete the Collectioni'm pure evil...
>>562808654>ai slop pixel art
Claude is too useful but I feel like my brain is being atrophied every time I use it
>>562808654Neat
>>562808839What in the sam hell is Claude
>>562809021text2game
>>562768684>Hitstop I’m a little iffy on, but you’ve piqued my interest.So hitstop is a really cheap way to make it seem like things react to hits more or less and maybe the only way a player can "feel" hits. Basically all you do is freeze (or slow down to a crawl which might be easier) any movement/animation/momentum for a few frames. Traditionally you would freeze game logic but I think in a CAG or like in this video it's more suitable that only the actors involved freeze a little bit.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JAW6Zn3rMBkA good rule of thumb is to not have any hitstop at all on very light hits like jabs or a rapid strikes animation and hits that are blocked (unless they're massively big hits) and then add in increments of 2 or 3 frames of freeze. So normal hits would have 2f of freeze, heavy hits would have 4f of freeze and charged heavy would have 6f of freeze. You can also add extra for things like counter hits to give feedback to the player that something big just happened.
>>562768684>What’s scaling a juggle?Juggle scaling is something used to prevent infinite combos or encourage varying your attacks, the juggle system can work a little differently between games but in games with long combos you would typically scale them by having the enemy fall faster and get knocked back slightly further away each time you hit them. If the enemy is grounded they typically recover faster from being knocked down. To the player this makes it feel like you have to chase the enemy more the more you hit them and the more you repeat your attacks.
>>562809254No need to explain, I looked it up.>>562809104Also I know what hitstop is. I was interested in Juggle Scaling.
>>562768684>>562809254To implement the scaling games typically do one or two things, they either multiply the amount of gravity/knockback on the enemy for every repeating move they're hit by (horizontal normal hits might add less or only count the number of started strings) and then reduce the total time they're stunned if they're grounded. This is the most straight forward system but it can still lead to wonkiness and needs to be fine tuned so it doesn't feel like the player is being punished too harshly. The other system is to give enemies "juggle points", when you hit them with attacks that sends them into a juggle state they start counting juggle points.Subsequent hits spend these juggle points, or reduces them to a fixed number, relaunching in this system is more expensive that doing normal attack strings as the combat system would just become relaunch, relaunch, relaunch otherwise. For each Juggle points spent subtly increase gravity and knockback, and when they're all spent the enemy falls out of the combo and ignores all relaunch attempts until it stands up again at which point he regains his juggle points. The main benefits of this system is that combos become extremely consistent and it requires less fine tuning, the main risk is not accounting for all situations which enable infinites. A common scenario is that an attack slightly launches the enemy as part of a string but only the second or third hit in the attack, the developer chooses to spend juggle points on the first hit of the attack and then not decrease them on the second and third hit. The player realizes the underlying mechanics of this move and creates a situation where the first hit of the attack always whiffs, the result is he can juggle the enemy infinitely by only hitting the 2nd and 3rd hit over and over killing the enemy very slowly but safely. The player will always be risk averse and choose the path of least resistance
>>562808654can you sex christy?
>>562753174>>562753535It is clearly a logic failure on your part. Revisit the logic step by step. Sometimes it's something that you think is right but isn't actually.
>>562753535You might be telling the enemy to attack every update and every time you do you rotate the enemy towards the player. Only tell the enemy to attack if it's not busy.
the secret to success is help from others
>>562807683Subliminal porn frames that go by so fast nobody notices. Like in Fight Club.
>>562765275that aliasing looks awful
>>562809790Anon I already fixed it or at least stabilized it a while ago.Currently just dealing with this weird-ass thing
2026 update: still no good engines or frameworks
>>562765646>>Character constantly gets under the enemyYour character controllers need to be smarter. You can't allow them to push inside other characters or walk under them if they're in the air. If you try to rely on basic rigidbody collisions things will go wrong.
>>562810556I don't use RBs at all actually!
>>562784568I now know how to depict demons in my game
>>562784568Horrifically mutilated human beings
>>562810556>You can't allow them to push inside other characters or walk under them if they're in the airThis is stupid and not how spectacle fighters work, the main difference between juggled enemies and grounded enemies is the size of their collision shape, it should be very small and allow for enemies to overlap in the air.
>>562804252thronefall looks a lot more polishedthe other game looks like shit based on the traileralso thronefall is a pseudo rts while the other is a regular td game
>>562784568I make it so the ones that look like weird surreal Bosch-like abnormalities are the "higher ones" while the basic "humanoid with horns" ones are the lower demons.Because a demon is more than a creature, like a representation of a concept like sin.While the demons that are closer to fantasy monsters or aliens get to be at a lower level, hated by both the truer, weirder demons and mortals.
>>562805801Then don't let them exit the stunned state before the stun is over. Same goes for any other state that blocks other actions. That's like the whole point of a state machine. To control the state so things that shouldn't happen can't happen.
>>562808839When you start to naturally ask AI anything instead of thinking of the answer yourself then you have a problem. That's the process of turning yourself into an NPC.
>>562784568>what do demons look like in your game?like little girls except they have horns, wings and tails
https://www.reddit.com/r/truegaming/comments/1r3sxre/concernedapes_haunted_chocolatier_has_a_specific/Eric, you need to make Haunted Chocolatier a mega blockbuster big hit no matter what, flop is not an optionWe don't want a second hand embarrassment, you are agdg best resident, best of luck
>>562811503>https://www.reddit.com/r/truegaming/comments/1r3sxre/concernedapes_haunted_chocolatier_has_a_specific/>Eric, you need to make Haunted Chocolatier a mega blockbuster big hit no matter what, flop is not an option>We don't want a second hand embarrassment, you are agdg best resident, best of luck
>>562811381That’s not particularly the problem I’m dealing with ATM
>>562811503>most people could never attain the unconscious mastery to copy + paste an already existing game/franchisemother of all reddit posts
>>562784568>Demons are based on the same people that invented organized religion to begin withBig mystery.
>>562811503> In an interview he mentioned playing "a bunch of Diablo II" during early HC development and being drawn to loot drops and stat progression. That's the reward layer of action RPGs, not the feel architecture. Diablo II's combat depth comes from animation canceling, hit recovery frames, attack speed breakpoints, crowd positioning.People really just writing their own opinions with AI now
>>562811503It's clear from interviews that he's tired of min-maxxers, which is why he brought up the concept of intuition to make chocolates. I believe this game mechanic is going to annoy so many SV players who autistically try to optimize everything.
>>562812052>believe this game mechanic is going to annoy so many SV players who autistically try to optimize everything.bobby...
Where did Bocchis come from?
>>562812720hell portal
>>562799268Which CPU and RAM?I run gemma3 4b q4 model at < 5 tokens per second.
>>562812981no, real answers!(i assume they are bots)
>>562812720Well when a Boccher and Kita love each other very much...
Progress:- removed plot- removed incremental mechanic- removed overworld- decreased characters poly count to < 400- decreased unique characters to < 10
>>562813368nice!>>562813286arent they all men though? so adopted, hairs painted as well, groomed? horribly
>>562813040I lied, I run at < 4 tokens per second
>>562813286based based
>>562757193This blue ocean sure seems a lot like Disco Elysium-likes!
>>562813286ALSO; IS THIS AI GENERATED? CAN YOU GENERATE THIS IMAGE BUT REPLACE ONE OF THEM WITH FYGOON???
Should I add one o those little circular shadows under my player character
>>562815693>>562815693New bread
>>562807995You spent 10 years looking for shortcuts.If you had spent that time actually learning how to do things like sculpting, modeling, animating, texturing etc you'd have a game now.But by all means, keep this up. Avoid learning and look for shortcuts, it's your life.
