Steady 25K Edition >Game Info:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>The Entire History of Marathonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhk [Embed] [Open]https://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg//vg/ Discord:https://discord.gg/RDy8sPCeKcNews:>RECENT PATCH NOTEShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1052>SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUThttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0>RANKED DETAILShttps://x.com/TauCetiGG/status/2033929468713308638>CRYO ARCHIVE DETAILShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/cryo_archive_overviewPrevious Run>>562609929
MarathonThe Raped
yeah im just going in with free kit and if you dont talk im just going to leave ok
CONCORD 2https://www.pipeworks.com/our-games/
Bungie lost this war months ago. Your people are broken, scattered, hunted, defeated... by me. I wish I could tell you it was difficult, but it wasn't. We are one step ahead, always. The general is already under our control. Soon, the game as well. The Warframe and the Halo fanbase share the same goal. We fight together to honor the will of Marty. But... without challenge I grow weary, lost, alone. But, here you now stand. This is my last fight. A true test of legend. Our story will outlive us both. SET A FIRE IN YOUR HEART GUARDIAN. BAAAAARE YOUR FANGS. FIGHT HARD. Die well.
>>562778525College Football 25 2
battlepass updated
Your developers of Marathon, the developers of Concord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxt5n7gKLVU&t=509syea people are cheating
>>562778982No wonder Destiny 2 also went to shitwtf concord has ruined everything even just by remotely touching it
Where's our consistent 30k playerbase marathoners
>>562778525>>562778982Oh fuck the Terraria devs ruined my life
>>562778525>>562778982Lmao so fucking hilarious that they were a part of EOF which nobody likes.
>>562779498that's the switch version of terraria they handledever played it?
>>562779405We’re at the stable 20k phaseSoon (probably 2 weeks if I had to guess) we’ll be at stable 10k
>>562778982>wu tanglmao
this game is trash, the balance and mechanics are trash, the visibility is trash, the stash is trash, the quest rewards shitting up your trash stash are trash, the aim assist is trash, the movement is trash, the performance is trash, the skins are trash and the wheelchair compatibility reeking into every element of the game is trash.
troonathon
>do an outpost game with fren>grab supply drop>get a key for complex shed in Dire>try a ranked outpost game for first time>grab supply drop>get a key for the greenhouse office in DireToday has been a good day
>>562779498>>562779645Yeah, you wouldn't want to play Switch version of Terraria they madeIt was so bad they had to call it quits in 2020 and gave it back to the original devs.
>>562779645I have not, I think I played Terraria once around when it came out, determined it was not to my tastes and moved on. Just funny to see it right next to Marathon on their front page.>>562780106kek
>>562779980You will die and give both those keys to some streamers who won’t even use it
probably best Battle Royale I ever played, shame about the tacked on extraction looter bullshit though
I think it's really funny watching crypto and outrage swarthoids on twitter hoping this shit will be the next concord so they can make their YouTube to get out of poverty
>>562780168terraria was fucking BOTCHED on switch because of them and it still took them YEARS to release itholy fuck I should avoid pipeworks shit like the plague
>Hot Take>Dissapointed most Marathon streamers feel obligated to play Ranked. It isn’t fun, and you’re exposing yourself to stream snipers & cheaters in one of the worst game genres. >Why this sucks as a fan of the game, is that people are constantly exposing their fans & viewers to the worst Marathon has to offer. This isn’t going to convince anyone to stay on the game, let alone buy the game. The vibe from creators shifted from hyping the game & showing off the best of Marathon to an already burnt-out topic, cheaters & stream snipers. >This isn’t blaming creators, honestly. It can be taken that way, so my b. I’m a fan of the game and avoiding ranked seems like the best thing I can do as a creator if I want to see Marathon grow. >Ultimately, this is on Bungie. Always has & always will be. It’s embarrassing. Big talk about no cheating policy. They succeeded at baiting people with that & being one of the first extraction games with ranked. This is going to backfire badly if they don’t take some form of action. A game convo being surrounded by cheats, an extraction game, is going to do irreperable damage to the game’s image & their player morale. I've played Destiny for years and this is literally unironically seriously forrealsies the first intelligent thing Frost has ever said.
Hot TakeDissapointed most Marathon streamers feel obligated to play Ranked. It isn’t fun, and you’re exposing yourself to stream snipers & cheaters in one of the worst game genres. Why this sucks as a fan of the game, is that people are constantly exposing their fans & viewers to the worst Marathon has to offer. This isn’t going to convince anyone to stay on the game, let alone buy the game. The vibe from creators shifted from hyping the game & showing off the best of Marathon to an already burnt-out topic, cheaters & stream snipers. This isn’t blaming creators, honestly. It can be taken that way, so my b. I’m a fan of the game and avoiding ranked seems like the best thing I can do as a creator if I want to see Marathon grow. Ultimately, this is on Bungie. Always has & always will be. It’s embarrassing. Big talk about no cheating policy. They succeeded at baiting people with that & being one of the first extraction games with ranked. This is going to backfire badly if they don’t take some form of action. A game convo being surrounded by cheats, an extraction game, is going to do irreperable damage to the game’s image & their player morale.
I still wished that Marathon was never an extraction shooter and was just PvE centered with a focus on taking out difficult enemies.
>Ranked>fire fight with another team across a walk way>Don't have the range and tell the team to back off and let them push>our recon and i back up and get cut off >Our fucking triage is still standing in the god damn corner just afk>10 mins later and he's still afkThese console niggers, man, i swear.
>>562778525you're posting this like it's some gotcha but BUNGIE THEMSELVES worked on concord to some degree
>>562780202I've been lucky before and Im sure as fuck aint gonna bring both at once
Cold TakeLoving that most Marathon streamers feel unbound to play Ranked. It is a blast and you’re exposing yourself to stream helpers & marathondads in one of the most addicting, best game genres out there.Why this rules as a fan of the game, is that people are constantly exposing their fans & viewers to the best Marathon has to offer. This is going convince everyone to stay on the game and buy the game. The vibe has shifted from shitting on the game & showing off the worst of Marathon to an fresh topic, wholesoome players & stream helpers.This isn't just praising creators, honestly. It can be taken that way, so my b. I’m a fan of the game and prioritizing ranked seems like the best thing I can do as a creator if I want to see Marathon grow.Ultimately, this is all Bungie. Always has & always will be. It’s amazing. Big talk about inspiring friendship policy. They succeeded at making people do that & being one of the first extraction games with ranked. This is going to jam well if they don't listen to chuds. A game convo being surrounded by the best community, an extraction game, is going to do immense vibe shifting to the game’s image & their player morale.
>>562780871No one would play it, I'm dead serious.
>>562781575So, exactly the same?
Why did it flop?
>>562781575No one plays this turd either. What's your point?
>>562782284chud hate campaigns
Marathon would be good if it had the feel of a slick sci-fi FPS with tight gunplay, strong abilities, and a rewarding loot grind.Basically: responsive shooting, flashy powers, lots of build variety, and a loop of doing missions to get better gear so you can do harder missions for even better gear. The appeal is the combat feeling smooth and powerful, while progression keeps giving you new weapons, armor, and combinations to chase.
>>562781575I think plenty of people would play this incarnation of Marathon if it were just Space STALKER/Metro/Far Cry 2 instead of an extraction shooter.
>>562782284dire marsh is too ass
>>562782284needs more players
>>562782284It's shit
>>562782284Too easy to hit the ceilingNot enough contentDire Marsh is aids and quest designs suck I do quite like the setting and aesthetics though, but there needs to be a lot more content
>>562782848There were plenty of ways they could also break into the single player extraction shooter market. The problem is that Sony wants GAAS out the ass and monetizing single player games isn't enough of that. Add to that fact that it's Bungie and you can easily see why Marathon is the way it is.
>>562780967>Next ranked match>find conveyor request key>nobody contests it as we go up>Smash and grab drone and destroyed wing>exfil without firing a shotsometimes god throws a bone.
>>562780420>crypto and outrage swarthoidswhy did i read this as cryo and outpost sweatlords
>>562782284Bungie bet they were smarter than every other extraction dev, went all in on flooding maps with loot, no safepocket, no sbmm, and now the game is a BR dominated by top players who don't even loot the shitters they're filtering out. Simple as
this game is totally fucked, chinese cheaters every ranked match i play
>>562782284>most generic FPS gameplay possible>really bad level design in major locales>faction missions are 90% MMO fetch quests>functionally 2 maps and 2 farming filler maps>cryo is a big cool looking map with nothing interesting on it and a critical waste of time>200-300mil AAA title can't give you a home base with activities which would be a killer feature>guns look like dookie>most characters look like dookie>worst customization among any top FPS so you can't fix aforementioned dookie designs>the only non-roblox enemies are little ticks and a floating HP sponge gated behind pointless grindingImagine if you could attack & defend PvP encounters at player bases. Imagine if missions were developed to be fun. Imagine if there were social mechanics to the map content. Imagine if cryo was as cool as it looked and the boss was fun to fight. I liked walking around and looting for a couple hours but the game falls apart once you're on the boring treadmill for better gear. For what? The PvP isn't good and the PvE is boring. The game is best enjoyed as a solo where you can be more immersed but systems aren't designed for it, it was a last minute addition to appease criticism. If I'm going to drag my buddies into a game I would rather play better FPS games. This is the kind of game that can be improved like a year later but I keep wondering how you manage to make something that seems cool turn out so boring. And the guns man what were they thinking with the designs? I hate how the guns look. Just ask gun companies to give you riced out futuristic looking gun prototypes ffs
>>562784419pleb, the guns look great and unique, the railguns are all well designed. the volt weapons too to be fair
>>562784549>pleb, the guns look great and unique
>>562784862Use examples you sissy. Do you know what real DEW prototypes look like? The battery swap on volt weapons is cool
>>562784862>posts an awesome looking nerf gun
>>562784862>Nerf guns are UNCOOLwow, faggot detected.
>>562781118>you're posting this like it's some gotcha but BUNGIE THEMSELVES worked on concord to some degreeThey did
I just hate people like that anon, pure cattle.>get le same le future weapons as every other thingWinter olympics, olympic shooting. That's what the guns in Marathon are based on principle wise couple with non human use.
>Every raid I'm just matched with free kittersI want to play your game Bungie, but you make it so hard.
>>562785984There should be minimum amd maximum limits to loadouts per map.>Perimeter Free - 2k>Marsh1k-3k>Outpost2k-4k>Cryo5k-no limit
>>562785984everytime i go in with a blue or green kit my team mates have no mics and are free kittingeverytime i go in with free kit my team mates have mics and have green or blue kitsits comedy at this point
>>562785984lol again that they optimized for EPIC zero to hero runs instead of just putting fucking gear minimums on solo fill. You wanna slum it? Get the fuck back to perimeter, or find some dudes willing to team with your freekit ass.
>>562786208Fuck this retarded game>3 maps in the main rotation>one weekends only>out of the main 3 one map is an enjoyable experience>other two are the designated baby tutorial map and 3 stack thermal snipers mapRetarded low effort sloppa
>>562784979the guns look like lego guns, lmgs come to mind, the ARs and SMGs are nothing to write home about and overall very very ugly and look like plastic toys. if thats your vibe whatever but not many people like the look of toy guns in your adult shooter.
>>562786385they really need to tweak thermal scopes and i dont know how without just getting rid of them in the game. they are too op
>>562786398Yeah actually why is Tau Ceti 4 anything at all, we sort of already know the tau ceti planets are likely to be fully lifeless rocks
>>562786523Um idk but in 6 years the only fauna we could come up with us a red ball with 4 legs that screams at you. Niggas made red Mike wazowski and called it a day
i just afk at spawn when i get a lobby like this. much better chances of exfiling safely that way
>>562786453>entire system for stamina has been contextualized as heat and interacts with multiple systems>except thermal scopes
rise owes me sex
i see bungie is still sticking to their whole "never overdeliver" mantraHowever, I don't think underdelivering is a good thing either
>>562786453It's called making them gold spawns or as rare as they are in Tarkov.
The dormitories boss room on Outpost is fucking cancer now, the spores explode on you with super range when you shoot them and the reinforcements never stop.
>>562787954Yea they should have been purple or gold tier optics so when you get them you feel like the fucking predator instead of just having your epic cheese tactic ready whenever you feel like it cause u have 10 copies in the vault
28k max today, it’s grim fellasI haven’t played in 4 days
>first day under 30k
>shitters got filteredonly the strong remain
>>562788941im a shitter but yet i still hate myself enough to press play on steam and click team fill
>sub 30k countskek its over for Bungie and the Marasissies.
>marathon shooters posting their stats>notice my levels are significantly higher with less playtime even if their vaults are betterInteresting
Sub 20k next week or the week after?
Dunno if this was bait, but now I wanna do free kit runs.
>>562790000I give it three weeks. 20k is the dedicated fanbase but they’ll run out of stuff to do. Cryo will continue to push it back up and ranked will drive it further down. I expect this weeks low low to be around 26 and next week will be low 20s
>>562779972am i suppose to know or care who this person is
Marathon should have all kinds of paid cosmetics, no reason not to.
kek its over for you maratroons
>>562787210Are you Thief?>>562792229It's coming to PS Plus and Game Pass, this game will live until GTAVI
>Roll into Pinwheel, kill every single other crew, had grabbed 1 red on the way in. >All 9 other players only had 1 red between them. >Do command wing, kill 5 commanders on the way, no more redsguess the vault just wasn't for us today, I usually have decent luck getting a red from the horde of commanders in Pinwheel
Marathon is such a good game. The best one for console generation. At least until GTAVI, there really isn't a better game for gen 9(nine) systems(Xbox Series/PS5).
>>562792821you can just leave pinwheel and grab another red you know
>>562793089It took a while to kill everyone, figured the gamble of command wing + vault would pay off better. Turns out Command Wing vault's purple item was a fuckin panacea kit and I can go fuck myself
What's the best game of this generation, so far?Marathon.What games have the potential to surpass it?GTAVI and, possibly Modern Warfare IV(2026).
this nigga that hand from addams family or sum
>>562793042>all those shitty gamesNot a surprise someone like that would enjoy this game
>Still no Gravity daze or Demons soul on PCThank Christ Sony released Marathon on Steam, Pc niggas got no games
>>562793661Only shitty game I'm hearing about here is Deadlock, praised by some faggot. Looks like shit, plays like shit
Marathon DESPERATELY needs a gear refund system when you run into cheaters + a more intuitive report system. I shouldn't have to go back to main menu, open up recent players, find the person that cheated and then report. There should be a report option as soon as you die. These accounts are level 150+ just cheating the whole day.
>>562793661Alan Wake and Gravity Rush aren't shitty games. Drakengard 3 unfortunately is when compared to its predecessors though.
>Kike worshipper tooKek
>>562794193nier automata came after drakengard 3
why does everyone have ttv in their name
>>562794602unemployment epidemic
>>562794159according the devs cheating is impossible, so why do anything
>>562794159An insurance system would help, although it would probably only make the thermal sniper rape worse.
Game needs insurance, a safe pocket/case system, crates for the vault, a market to sell stuff on, some kind of factional karma, less focus on BR style trio lobbies and put a gear limit onto the maps.
>>562795784>those useless DCON things
>>562795956wait do dcons let you get shit off planet before you exfil or die?
>>562796009No that's the fucking problem they're only for QUEST turn ins it's a completely missed opportunity.
>>562796009it feels like they should but nope
>>562794159I use cheats but mine are more based around the PvE element. The only cheat I use is a packet sniffer. It's very similar to the old days of showEQ. When I load up into a map it tells me where everything and everyone is. This way I can focus on doing my PVE stuff and completely avoid other players. It's especially helpful when I've gotten lucky drops or completed some quests and I need to exfil, but I see a trio coming towards my area. This allows me to back out and retry.
>>562795784>InsuranceThere's insurance for some oob kills you mean for hackers/glitches?>crates for the vaultI'd rather have salvage turned into faction credits on exfil desu, frees up a ton of vault space and lets bungie be more granular with rewards/materialist bonuses, and is a simple way to distribute credit to everyone on a squad. And works with the corpo dystopia hellscape getting paid in company scrip.>gear limit onto the mapsWouldn't sbmm regulate that by itself?
>>562796009I have a suspicion that's what they were they for originally. Unfortunately that's not HARDCORE enough.
>>562795784The economics of some of the barters make no fucking sense for certain things, it’s also shit having the salvage take up as much as it does. I can’t blame new people finding it that exciting they have a bunch of big ass rectangles they’re gonna have to carry around in vault for awhile, it’s just feels like it eats up too much space.
>seething about ChristChrist is King.
>>562796135>I cheatI hope you seriously stop that shit. You're fucking over the risk of the game that everyone else needs to abide by. Respect yourself to not cheat.
Did anybody play one of the first play tests and/or has the screen shot of the reward for doing so ? I swear I saw somebody post the pass Vandal skin and that was the participation gift for the test but I’m wondering if it got changed or did Bungie just not give it out to people ?
>>562790341>Played Rook for like 3 more hours, not a single winMost genuine skill issue and complete lack of strategy.
>>562796250I guess my question is how would you make SBMM for this game? All you idiots didn’t play red mini game in Destiny and never got to witness the misery of the game’s sbmm effectively going out the window and how badly it’d group people. What makes you think Bungie would solve it here and figure what the skill criteria would be?
I still don’t fully understand how/why they made Thief as strong as she is.
>>562796135how do i set that up
>>562796060That's the absolute worst part, you can ONLY use them for quests and nothing else. They should just fucking randomize the locations where they spawn if they dont want people to camp them.
>>562796341>it’s also shit having the salvage take up as much as it doesIt makes sense for it to take up that much space in run, but it absolutely doesn't need to in the vault, that shit should just be numbers in a table.
>>562796920He’s lying.
>>562796729>I guess my question is how would you make SBMM for this game?We're all just bullshitting over this dead game so I'm gonna say simply scoring eliminations you go up and you get thirsted you go down, fights can involve so many knocks that's an unreliable indicator of skill, esp in a bubble wstr self revive triage meta. And I'd say no to gear and pve considerations as your ability to sustain loadouts is itself an expression of skill, and extraction stats involve meta shit like getting exfil fucked on cryo or just avoiding everyone and getting catapulted up in mmr.>What makes you think Bungie would solve it here and figure what the skill criteria would be?Nothing.
>>562796462Ohh fuck off, he already mentioned he only uses the cheat so he doesnt have to engage with other players.I dont fucking mind.You shouldnt either, you just wont see him in any of your matches.Go farm a warden or something instead.
Was today our first sub 30k day? It’s over
Should I play Marathon, Warzone, or Arc tonight.>Marathon for exfil killing>Warzone for leveling new guns, unlocking new camos, camping final circles(zones)>Arc for extract killingWhat the fuck should I do tonight
Too many good games to play, Arc is kinda clunky, but still fun to rape extracts.CoD plays good, but is frowned upon, hated by both shitters, and sweats(for reasons).Marathon plays good, but has no maps.
>>562797624No one else gets that privilege except him. He can find any time he wants when he needs it, guaranteed. He can avoid players, guaranteed. Those upgrades and missions he completed with the help of cheats are illegally gotten gains and you disgrace the runners code by opting out of player and loot interactivity, which is damn near 90% of this game.
>ranked meta is literally just 3 assassins with WSTRs spamming 10 billion grenades at youjesus christ this is awful
How is low tiered ranked, like Gold and under?
>>562802178>>562801623also niggers just running at you with knives too, ive died to that shit more than shotguns
>>562802178It's ok the loot pool is better
The only people who dislike marathon are bad. Me and my buddy are stomping and having a blast. We prob owned you a few times. Mad? Maybe get better.
I somehow cannot help myself but find only the shittiest golds
>>562797624It's exactly the same as the mods to the dark souls game...except the entire goddam game here is PVP. But nobody's gonna stop him. And if he gets caught and banned, he's gone anyways. And more people will do what he does. So that player count will actually be far lower in reality.You know this is happening. Especially as more people do this shit to avoid cheaters.
>>562802660>huh wha the playerbase is dwindling where has everyone i was stomping gone whats happening no wait is that NO NOOOOO NOOOOO THE SERVERS SONY STOP AAAAEEEEIIIEEEEE
Sub 10k today?
is precision damage headshot damage or ads damage?
Goodbye, I'm playing deadlock now
>>562804109headshot
>>562804140Goodbye
>>562804454thanks
>level 80>lobbies always have a three mans that are literally level 130+ with multiple cryo skins >fucking level 170 players What the actual fuck man
Give it to me straight, how raped is outpost ranked?
>>562784419>Imagine if you could attack & defend PvP encounters at player bases.You had that idea as a game already: it was called Highguard, and it was a stinker just like Marathon. Into the trash with your game concept.
>>562805451The idea behind Highguard was alright, just badly executed.
I'm having a blast I'm having a blast I'm having a blast I'm having a blast I'M HAVING A BLAST I'M HAVING A BLAST
>>562796729That's the kicker though. Unlike competitive pvp games you can get away with imperfect SBMM. As long as people are roughly within same skill level other random shit would smooth things out.They just need to make sure that turbo sweats are not in the same games as carebears.
>>562804854How the fuck do you even attain this level within three weeks or so?
i'm struggling to find the will to keep playing this game just so i can get to level 100 for the achievement. after that i am dropping this shit forever
Ranked fucking sucks, I figured bronze 3 would be like somewhat chill but everyone is fielding purples
ranked is actually so fucking bad in this game jesus christ, just take it out and make cryo longer
First two games of ranked got absolutely fucking raped by full purple teams running full bubbles and the works what is this shit? Is this what you guys are subjecting yourselves to? lmao.
>>562807629If Cryo is anything like this this game deserves to fucking die honestly. They need to pivot hard on this shit.
>>562796729Accuracy, extract rate, and K/D ratio, extrapolate and do real math based on that.
>>562806952That's because they're trying to get to Silver, obviously. Silver is where skilled players get hardstuck. Bronze is where casuals get hardstuck.
>>562808363Ranked should have a rarity limit for each rank. Bronze = Greens, Silver = Blues, Gold = Purple and so on.
Got gifted this game by fren, it's just as awful as i was expecting it to be but now i have to play it otherwise i look like a cunt, what are some tips you can share to someone who got the game 3 days ago, currently Lv12 and got Marsh unlocked
>>562808546Dire Marsh is kind of a shitshow due to thermals but the best tip I can give is to just freekit until you get a basic feel for the maps. Don't get too attached to anything since getting out is a bonus.
>>562808546Don't use anything purple until you're level 60.
>>562808498Ranked should be forced random fills.
>>562808546If you're solo and want to survive, ratting is mandatory until you are geared and knowledgeable enough to only take fights where getting third partied won't catch you by surprise. Just get to the closest POI (or just thing to hide behind) and sit for 3 minutes. People will get to a POI and listen for footsteps/noises first, then if seemingly nobody's around they'll start looting, which is your chance to either follow and take scraps or catch them by surprise. If it's Dire Marsh sprint to the closest POI and get inside because people know the spawn points and will try to kill you in the first 20 seconds.The knife is surprisingly powerful, leveling Arachne for the melee buffs eventually gets to the point where you can kill even purple/gold shields in two right click stabs. At the start though left click spam is probably the way to go until you get comfortable with what you can kill in one hit with a right click.If you're trying to progress priority contracts, the two ways to do them with free kits are to just instantly sprint at your objectives until you eventually get lucky and don't die, or wait until there's only like 3-5 minutes left and everyone else is gone and then go do it, which is fuckin boring but fairly reliable.There's a final exfil you don't have to activate that spawns when the timer hits 0, gives you 60 seconds to reach, and most the time isn't contested, it will generally spawn somewhere near the middle of the map, it's a reliable way to get out once you know your way around a bit.You sprint faster with your knife out.Rushing CyAc/MIDA rep is generally the best start, as heat capacity/agility are kind of baseline 'feels good to play' upgrades that should have just been baked in.good on you for being a good friend the game can be enjoyable even if the start 100% sucks, hope it eventually is okay for you
>>562780797>Streamer faggot loses games because he is not stomping Perimeter babies with no loot.>Blames it on muh cheaters and steam snipersLol
Season 2 will be Marathon's No Mans Sky redemption arc. Trust the plan.
The marathon is falling videos have begun
>>562810646What would the Cradle and Night Marsh even need to be to do that?
>>562810646Literally just add actual matchmaking, proper solos/duos, and tweak the faction resource requirements for casuals, that's it
I've got a puzzle for you guys.One of your teammates got sniped next to Ai uplink. They shoot at you, but you hide in the structure between uplink and complex. After observing for a while you notice it's a team of snipers camping on top of uplink and they are not moving. You have one sniper between the both of you. How do you approach this?The roof of uplink feels like the strongest place in the game, very long sightlines, kinda hard to get on top of, plenty of cover.
>>562808546Shields are the most important piece of your kit by far, no gun upgrade will make you kill faster (except gold) but shields make you harder to kill.If you get confused about something, hover over it with your cursor. Especially useful for quest, you can hover over objectives to get more details on where that fucking terminal is.If you don't want to play the slow rat, play trios with fill, completely different game to solo.Completing your teammates quests awards you some of the respective faction xp.On guns: their color is determined by what attachments are on them. You can strip them off. Some guns are actually rarer than others, it usually shows in their sell value (they're not necessarily better. The cheap bully smg is one of the best guns in the game).The knife is absurdly strong and bayonet charges are absolutely viable.
>>562811801smokes i guess?
>>562811801Depends on your resources, but for the most part you're totally fucked. If you have signal jammers + smoke you could abandon your teammate and fuck off to Complex. If you have claymores and thief you could go through the tunnels and jihad jeep through the ladders in AI Uplink and try to hope you can get 1-2 of them and your remaining teammate with a sniper could support you grappling up to get close. Vandal could conceivably blast one/two off the roof from however the fuck far away but that's not exactly productive unless you're really good at skeet shooting with a sniper.Overall though, welcome to Dire Marsh get fucked
>9047Its over
PVE mode where we have to work together to restore the colony will save the game.We'll start with Dire Marsh. Plow the land, grow vegetables, take care of the ticks, raise binguses, defend the base against UESC raids, etc.
>>562813484stardew valley is down the hall to the left
>>562810646Would be interesting to see, I have no idea what could turn this around.
>>562813484Just give me an alt timeline that actually follows off the ending of Marathon 1 instead of becoming the Durandal show like 2 and 3 did. Let me stay with Leela, meet the other 9 cyborgs and protect the colony. Security Officer deserves the happy ending he earned.
>muh PVE>"i wish this was PVE"unironically kys or go back to dad raiders
>>562814272Expanded universe fags are the worst im glad this game's dead and bungie with them
>>562814536>Expanded universeOriginal universe. Literally the original ending before 2 came in with retcons. Dumb zoomer.
>>562814451okay*plays arc raiders and kills marathon by doing so*
>>562814451enjoy 8,796 other fuckhead you like then
>>562814769>noooo we should make every game accessible for dumb casual subhumansreddit is looking really great today
>>562814451>>muh PVE>>"i wish this was PVE"I'm tired of these retards too. Ever since the beta, game had zero PvE going for it. Everyone was listening to footsteps and ambushing each other.Why are these niggers still complaining about no PvE
>>562814817*kills your game*
>>562814789enjoy your dumb casual games that you quit after 1 week of playing every single timecasual opinions are worthless
>>562814451>make sequel to primarily pve game>it's exclusively pvp>wtf why are people asking for pve fucking dad gamers!!!!!Zoomers cannot be helped
We should only make games that die after a month.
>>562811801>The roof of uplink feels like the strongest place in the game, very long sightlines, kinda hard to get on top of, plenty of cover.Do people honestly never use the uplink basement to get into the building? I almost exclusively avoid taking the overland route solely because it's a death trap.
>>562814919oh look at me I'm so fucking hardcore. jesus christ you niggers
>Game is clearly too niche to be what Sony wants>But everyone wants to be "that guy" for a brand like a youtube remora so tons of people set up Marathon branded youtube channels>Best i've seen is videos getting 15k views in 24 hours.>Thats like $1.50Christ.
Watching you guys argue over whether there should be PvE content is so funny. Like dude, your game is quickly descending into the drain. At this rate you're cooked and so are Bungie. Atleast with Destiny there were new strikes, dungeons, and raids. Marathon wont have jackshit for atleast 2-3 more months.
>>562814817> look ma, I'm winning> in a retarded skinnerbox for gamblers> I'm achieving things> only 500 more contracts I'll be VIP> look at these retards I'm so better than themfucking homeless niggers you ruin everything just like in real world
>>562815224I mean the building often has claymores inside and you still have to get to the roof
>Destiny AND Marathon are both doing worse than Curse of Osiris did.Marassisies i am worried now.
>>562815650We talk past you because you're just background noise. We expect you to be here, but we don't really care. So anyway, back to talking about the future updates and whether Bungie will correct their mistakes or not.
Man I love being gunned down as rook on final exfil when the killball trio doesn't even have time to loot my corpse
>>562815342oh look at me I have a 9-5 and 2 kids and play 1h a week, developers should cater to mego back to r*ddit dog>>562814967>why is my hecking sequel to a shit game released 30 years ago not identicallets get you to bed grandpa before you post any more dumb, retarded dogshit >>562815671>I'm so better than themlearn english pajeetalso see above
>>562816194I'll take 6000 claymores and having CQC fights instead of getting sniped in the open.
>>562816589You think you deserve to exfil, clanker?
>>562816589Maybe you were conceived with a weak sperm?
>>562806517There are people who just do nothing but play video games all day and night. Leeching off their family. It's "people" like that who get to that level so fast.
>>562816424If that's how you see it, then that's your thing. I'm just here to see the shitposting and discourse unravel, although I do like the fact that you're gunning from that hardcore angle, as if that was Bungie's intent when in reality they just didn't want to make an actual game that required constant maintenence and new content. What's supposed to save the game from 5k-10k CCU peaks next month? Another map? New gear? A cutscene?
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>>562817429CEVSE
>>562816598it's English you mongrel
>regularly getting into lobbies where people have the cryo archive skinsI have exfilled from Cryo a whopping six times.
>All the Marathon ads have been replaced by Gray Zone ones on every site i visitAAAAIIIEEEEEEE
The two other guys in my stack just keep annihilating rooks as they're about to make their way into the exfill ring. Sometimes they even shout at me to use my Vandal blast to make sure the Rook doesn't exfill if he's in there first hiding behind the beacon.I'm sorry my little robot chuds. I wonder if they see it in my eyes how I didn't want it to end this way.
all rooks must dai
>>562782284Game too big brain, game too smol brain
Runners show no mercy for me, while i show no mercy to Runners. All is well in the universe.
The winner take all breakdown of every map is honestly completely fucking retarded. It really does just devolve into a battle royale of one team killing everyone else uncontested before anyone can even try to extract.It's honestly stupid how common full lobby wipes are, it's like I'm playing Apex.
>>562819619they sold the game to trials sweats what did they think was going to become the default? fucking mexican standoffs with people on comms making a deal or truce?
>>562819619As a member of that one team, yesterday we came upon the last team in pinwheel and a standoff ensued at the entrance of drone wing. There was a bit of banter and then they just quietly went away and exfiled.It literally is that easy. Just avoid engaging, go away and exfil and you'll survive.
I find it kind of funny they added proximity chat, when the vast majority of players don't even use it nor does it serve any purpose beyond throwing slurs at your enemy. In fact a lot of the features in this game seem to largely be patchwork ideas thrown together for more appeal:>Rook didn't exist.>Solo's didn't exist.>Infinite Free kits/Free kitting didn't exist.>Thus the initial barrier for the game used to be even infinitely higher in their internal playtesting.I wonder if this kind of dev cycle has to do with the in-house testing being done in studio wide groups and devs just scrimming so much that they never really took much time to develop the core outside the team-only gameplay? Wouldn't be the first time for Bungie.
what the fuck is gray zone and why is it mogging marathon. should I try it?
I had a bad PvP experience while playing rook, and it’s changed my outlook on exfilling as rook. I had a decent night on outpost of just running to final exfil, always by myself, safe exfil, just had to wait out the clock.Eventually I had a final exfil with a team of purple shields. They jumped on prox chat, told me they saw me and they’d let me exfil if I didn’t do anything stupid (like attack or whatevs), and I went on prox chat just saying I’ve got green salvage, just levelling up factions, I’m not here to attack anyone.So I jump in the exfil circle, 8 seconds left. And boom one of the teammates shotties me point blank and downs me. Ok, I get it, I made the assumption “ok you down me so I can’t fight back but I can exfil”… then buddy just kills me with 3 seconds left lol.No big deal desu it’s a rook run, I didn’t have anything coming in so it’s no loss to me. But the night goes on, and I eventually have a very similar situation, this time 2 purple shields and blue. Very similar conversation on prox but these dudes sounded way more friendly and less hostile. I walked up and stood on a box beside the exfil circle.Then I decided to throw as many throwables as I could into exfil circle when it started. Downed all 3, but only killed 2 with a bully and one got away.I will be doing this from now on. The community has proven to me that enjoying this game how I want is not an option. I’ll be risking my entire gained gear bag to stop you from exfilling.I lose nothing, you lose everything.See you at final exfil.
I really hate how people are trying to turn all the reasons people like and play extractions shooters into a reason to hate bungie or this game, like people complaining about gear disparity, or the fact that the game is hard. STOP MAKING PREDICTIONS ABOUT THIS GAME DYING. "This game is gonna die if they don't change this one thing I don't like." "This games doa" " this games gonna die if *something* *something* casuals" its incredibly annoying. What number concord are we on now? 6 or something? Cause everyone wants new games to die? Yea let's keep trying to rob ourselves of content and whole ass AAA quality games by encouraging high value titles to go under, thats a good idea, let's all band together to shit on a game for no reason other than spectacle. How much of this is bots made for farming engagement and how much of it are real life morons? is anybody else getting unreasonably angry that we can't have nice things because dumb people are loud?
>>562821031Its a milsim extraction game being compared to crysis in visuals and tone, but also because it first seemed to be a straight tarkov style game but as times gone on theres hints of supernatural stuff ala metal gear and the inspiration for the new map is apparently the same novel S.T.A.L.K.E.R is based on so its getting a lot of hype as a secret F.E.A.R extraction game.
Jesus Christ it's still reposting from reddit
>in the alpha ttk was longer than now>shotguns remain unchangedjesus, imagine this game being even more of a fucking WSTR only shitshow than it is now.
>>562821490wait that sounds fine, its 33% off should i get it
It's finally dying
>>562821490>>562821668...??????????????? this mindless streamspeak yap made the game seem enticing for you?what about the gameplay loop? what about the mechanics? what about the performance?the game is literally just hyped milsim slop that already died.
>>562821668Yes. This is the game a year ago and apparently its gotten better and stranger with recent updates>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWpQI49XAJ4
>>562821930It is a persistent map set in a fictional south east asian country where something called "The Event" happened. It plays like a blend of Call of Duty and Stalker.
Winning in Marathon feels good because you know it feels bad for the loser. That's the problem with this game that no one wants to be honest about.
>>562822290You're raping the other person. Nigger rape game
>>562821526>hes still here getting raped
>>562822290To me it's usually on the inverse. Getting denied an exfil due to death is what feel the shittiest, it's not exactly the dying to players that sucks. Same goes for the killing. Knocking out a team feels nice, but at the same time to me it just serves another role in getting the fuck out of dodge with the loot/objectives. The PvP portion is fine, but i think people downplay the importance of just cutting your losses, especially in lower stakes maps.
>>562821930i don’t think it’s dead it’s having its biggest peaks rn isn’t it. idk what to say about me getting enticed, tarkov milsim style pve focused game sounded right up my alley. i don’t care about performance because my system is pretty top of the line and the gameplay loop i thought was obvious it’s an extraction shooter
Was just in ranked. One squadmate died, then I hid in a bathroom with my other mate. The team that killed the first guy closed in on us from the hole in the roof. I threw all my smokes down. I throw a grenade. It breaks the enemy Vandal's shields, then I get downed by them all blind firing into the room. My squaddie is still hiding in a stall. They come in, he chucks grenades and knifes them all, then trades on the last guy. They're all downed, but my teammate is the only one out of all of them with a fucking revive. He gets up, rez's us, and we exfil with all their holotags.
>>562823214Congrats on getting teamed up with a cheater <3
Why did Deathloop and this game get such different treatment from what critics thought about it vs players? >inb4 woke >inb4 shills Be serious. What elements are there which caused this?
>>562823453Wasn't Deathloop about people with afros?
>>562815650Anon, I would rather this game immediately die than watch the developer try and save the sinking ship through satiating you with a pve mode. Go play something else already.
>>562821252>reasons people like and play extractions shootersany examples?
>>562823453Wasn't Deathloop's PVP optional?
>>562822581It's literal rape IRL.
>>562823453Deathloop is pretty different from the premise and gameplan to begin with. You can get Infusion pretty fucking early in the Complex (if you want to play with zero stakes), so "Extractions" always give you progress towards unlocking something permanently and there are plenty of safety nets in both the invasions both with NPC Juliana and players. I'm honestly more surprised why the game got the treatment it did from the players themselves. It was unironically the last good Arkane game before the studio shat itself down a toilet.
>>562824226Funnily enough its simiar to Bungo. People hear Arkane and want bootleg system shock style games. Then they get "roguelite with pvp" and go "what a waste of a setting and art style".
>>562821252It’s mostly Mormons who think that some how another triple A flop will finally correct the industry, as if we’re just one more failed title away from the gaming renaissance we deserve.Faggots and blue hairs have no qualms being martyred for the cause. No amount of failure will bring back the games we took for granted.I’m getting too old to wait around for it to happen as well, like a lot of other anons, but they don’t realize their time is finite. It’s better to move on to other things or at the very least understand that these are the good times. You’re living in them, shit is only going to get worse. Enjoy it while you’ve got it
>This is the guy ratting your gamerdad ass and sending you back to Destiny>https://youtu.be/GMk0fBGLA1E?si=a91Ii6a04EVViGQf&t=598Surely Bungie knew this would happen?
I was in the last Ranked match before maintenance started. Feels cool.
>>562823453Marathon is better than deathloop, I wanted to like dl but the "loop" mechanics were shallow and the enemy AI and gunplay sucked so much ass. Not to mention the abilities just felt like dishonored rehashes
>>562821490>roadside picnic: vietnamok I'll play your game
OOOO AAAA AAAA AAAA AAAA
>>562825718Come on, get up, get down with the sickness
>>562825301>the "loop" mechanics were shallow and the enemy AI and gunplay sucked so much ass.The game is kind of weird in those terms, because the Loop starts defending itself more on repeated repetitions, which strengthens enemy types and enemies in general and mixing up the maps as time goes on. Some of the guns are fucking awesome too, like the Verso and Heritage gun. The biggest problem it largely has is that some of the options you have available for a single loop before reset makes challenge runs kind of weird, as you usually don't have time to grab the kind of shit you actually want in a single loop which makes the game feel like it's solely designed around Residuum and the Infusion system, which is a bummer as there are some pretty cool runs you can do without doing any infusions for a single loop.
>tHiS iSn'T cOnCoRd 3
>>562822290The game only feels good when you down an assassin while they have their knife outThat feels x10 better than an extract
A rogue Vandal tracked me down, again, and forced me into a bathroom stall, again, and sucked my dick against my will, for the second time. I was raped.
Gray zone bros, which faction are we choosing?
How long does maintenance usually last?
>>562821930the persistent map in gray makes it less slop than by the numbers marathong
>>562827276The one that lets me fuck a SEA grey.
>>562827287not long enough
>>562805148ranked is 200% raped all around but I would say less than dire marsh was
>>562828686I find it more rapey on Outpost.
>>562823453Well for starts, Deathloop does not require a constant online connection to play, then you're also looking at the whole point of Deathloop being that you're able to play the maps over and over again and shit will actually change based on what you do, rather than being dropped into the same static boring as fuck maps which are equally as big as Deathloop's maps with even less puzzles and sprinkles of activities.The gameplay is decent enough. It's not amazing. The music is more accessible by far, the style is easier to nail down and is actually nostalgic for some people unlike Marathon which is a combination of a bunch of things that people already don't like.Deathloop also has a story in there, an actual "mystery" plot that while it isn't amazing or anything, at least is a fully realized plot that someone clearly wrote and didn't string along into some dumb seasonal dripfeed that has a requirement for the game to succeed for years and years to "fully explore" the basic plot.Also you can literally do everything in Deathloop. Every little route-change really doesn't come down ultimately to skill, just time investment. You could play the entire game and still come out liking it (or hating it) as someone else who did all the shit, got every gun, got every upgrade, etc. It's a solid 7/10 maybe 8/10 game for me, and I understand why people do not like it, but you're comparing a GaaS to an actual boxed product videogame
>>562829965Shame Deathloop is fucking dogshit and boring as fuck while Marathon is a great game>The gameplay is decent enough. Mediocre shooting in mediocre levels with 1 enemy type that has mediocre AI and is blatantly easy to overpower? Wow really "decent">and is actually nostalgic for some peopleNobody gave the slightest fuck about DeathloopIt only made people mad because it was a worse Mooncrash that also killed the Dishonored IP, not that there was anything left worth salvaging of Dishonored after DOTO and the trash comics
So I haven't played much over easter and only now checked current player numbers and I'll be honest game is cooked.What I would like to see is for them to remove ranked completely. Remove every kind of fomo and focus sole on casual gameplay and story. The release weeks before cryo and ranked were the most fun we've had with the game. Everything new and it wasn't try hardy.Now you spawn, get flamed for not having purple shield and then watch purp shield retards get one shot 2 minutes into the round.I'm speechless at how shit the game is like that. It was good as a slow shooter and it's really bad now where everyone is geared. Honestly they might have to retire the whole extraction concept as a whole. I'm almost convinced it would have been more fund as a death match shooty instead. Anyway I haven't played much so I don't even have enough money to grind for ranked queue and I haven't bothered with cryo much either. Shit is fucked. Sad actually because I really like the game but shit spawn and forced pvp 30 sec into a round is fucking gay. I spend more time queueing than playing.
>>562831716>checked current player numbers and I'll be honest game is cookedSteam numbers don’t count, it’s a dying platform with low attention span and fickle loyalety to purchased games with an abhorrent refund culture deeply embedded all my sources are telling me Marathon is picking up bigly on console, especially Xbox, but PS5 also, with numbers far dwarfing PC but the e-celebs and journalists don’t seemt to want to report this they prefer dying game for clicks and ad reveuejust hold on a bit longer, its Power Plant Day today, things will improve Bungie won’t let us down
>>562823453I don't understand this comparisonDeathloop was a flop that reviewed like shit and hit the bargain bin and the Epic chink store as free game a year after releaseDeathloop reception was lukewarm at best. It was a timeloop game that eased some mistery sequence of events to trigger to actually solve the game yet you constantly follow quest markers.It's nothing like Marathon where you drop in a map and follow contracts and change plans depending on events, crew rotations, sounds,...Deathloop is actually the bastardization of the Crossing, an actual PVPVE multiplayer concept Arkane had worked on before Dishonored. When Dark Souls became popular with the invasion system, Deathloop came to be with the whole Juliana as invading enemy player, except that mode never fucking worked. But the PVE was also shit because you are fighting boring goons with firearms or some melee weapons that have no variety.
>>562824226It was a shit game with broken, incompetent AI
>>562820625i love calling people retarded faggots on prox
>>562831716As someone who hasn't played the game because my platform isn't supported, just based on everything I hear about how Marathon functions, it really does feel like some retard went in to make "t3h m0st h4rdc0r3 pvp gaem evah!!!!" and heard extraction shooters were the most "hardcore" genre and chose it purely based off that.Looting? More deliberate and slow gameplay? A focus on situational awareness and being judicious in who or how you fight? Boring! Shoot shoot! Bang bang! Smaller maps! More spawns!Wiping the lobby and farming PVE afterwards should never be a valid strategy in an extraction shooter IMO, as others have said they just made a BR with useless extra steps. A solo-first marathon with truly formidable and dangerous world/enemies that make you WANT to team up with other people seems way more interesting to me than the team based slop we got.No shade to people who like the game as is, it just seems kind of shit-ass as an extraction shooter.
>while Marathon is a great game
>>562833720>Looting? More deliberate and slow gameplay? A focus on situational awareness and being judicious in who or how you fight?the frustrating thing is that solo could be this if they just nerfed uesc density, fixed spawns, and deleted assassin
y’all know a game cooked when its more fun to talk about it dying than actual playing this chit, it over
>>562833790Yes, it is.
>>562831282>while Marathon is a great game
>>562834320What's so great about it?And why don't more people play it?
>>562831282>Mediocre shooting in mediocre levels with 1 enemy type that has mediocre AI and is blatantly easy to overpower?So...Marathon?
>>562834364>What's so great about it?Gunplay, art direction, map design, SFX, OST.>And why don't more people play it?Absence of onboarding, no SBMM, poor word of mouth due to past controversy.
>>562831282>Nobody gave the slightest fuck about DeathloopI did
>>562834568Wrong.>What's so great about it?Nothing. Nothing sets it apart from other shooters in a good way. Art is a subjective thing.>Why don't more people play it?Because it's actually bad. It has no niche. It's not a skill-based shooter. It's not a story rich single player game. It's not a coop game.It's a mess of various inane shit that make the game completely unplayable when put together.
>>562833790Shut the fuck up you retarded niggerYou don't give a shit about Deathloop, you are just here to stir shitDeathloop is fucking garbage, one of the most disappointing games I ever played. I stopped just soon enough to take my refund and never ever bough an Arkane game from that point onwards after buying every single one of them day one since Dark Messiahhttps://youtu.be/TqudnvnHuGg?is=YGM6IQFO_2kK9suBhttps://youtu.be/AxFrASi8q6I?is=oie_iPZEXE_8iL0Nhttps://youtu.be/56oyWjS34oE?is=7X-ANLdq_Iu_8Ci4And the game was streamlined to hell and back. They put out vidoc about how they streamlined the whole game for the average retard. It wasn't just a buggy mess with 1 (one) enemy, it was safe, boring, uninspired.Marathon is the opposite of that, zero hand holding, not scared of fucking the player over, demanding of attention and learning game mechanics.
>>562834568>map designYea bro these small as fuck maps turning the entire game into a team deathmatch instead of an extraction shooter really shows how great the map design is
uh oh melty
>sub 30k 24h peakIs DLSS5 the only way to save this game?
>>562835025next time you make a collage maybe remove the hideous borders idiot
Marathon is the Ye of gaming, there I said it, somebody had to
>>562834417kek was about to say the same thing
>>562834417This you?
>>562835025>best examples of marathon's art style is having to use cinematics for 80% of the shots>bright green on white I'm not taking your opinion on actual videogame artstyle seriouslyAlso>zero hand holding, not scared of fucking the player over, demanding of attention and learning game mechanicsAnd you understand why this game will quickly spiral into a deathloop (heh) right?Every other extraction shooter on the market is either cheaper than Marathon, has more content, has a wider split of gamemodes or allows you to train/practice.Marathon has literally none of it. And before you cope out with>freekits and rookThey're not the same thing. Its like saying to someone who's never played a fighting game to go and play quick play on SF or Tekken unranked and "you'll learn". You gotta put them into SOMETHING when this a genre with immensely dedicated players who love the GENRE (not individual games) and the skills are transferable. I'm not saying make the game easier, just give methods to learn it without throwing people into the most miserable lobbies imaginable. Not even the hardcore fightingfags will look you in the eye and say that no training mode is acceptable. EVERY FPS game pretty much launches with one and Marathon has none.
>>562835520youngest destiny player and bungie enjoyer
>>562833720This meme that most matches have lobby wipers and no pvp beyond early match is completely untrue even in Outpost and Cryo and a shitter talking point
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1503
>>562835653>This game will die because it doesn't pander to my shitter ass, checkmateI don't give the slightest fuck. Even if it was true and for some weird reason it didn't follow the same growth all extraction and live service games do with seasons, I would rather it dies after the price tag content releases than see it bastardized for you retardsFuck I would personally kill the game now than it to turn into slop for you shitheads
I played deathloop last february so it's fresh in my mind. The game is good. the curve of difficulty drops off heavily because of infusion but invasions allows for upsets in that comfort. I heard that some people don't like the linearity of the game, wanted more end game loops but I fail to see how that would elevate the experience over the amount of work it takes to develop. I wanted more interesting set pieces for sure. Only good one was the radio guy and that failed in execution, really all the visionaries should had felt more like bosses. Story was good but generally predictable, every character was enjoyable. 7/10.
>>562834819You seem to really dislike Marathon.
>>562835818>Removed “in a single run” conditionIt started.Pve mode soon.
Prey 2017 was an amazing game but that's about it for me.
>>562836334they removed it from one (1) singular mission
>>562836245What can I say, I just dislike badly designed games that feel bordeline like a scam.
>>562836183>than it to turn into slop for you shitheadslmao this game is slop. gaASS chasing the tarkov trend with FOMO maps and mechanics. look at gray zone warfare, that has a unique premise, a big persistent map? what other extraction game has that? marathon is a by the numbers extraction shoooter. arc has abmm, tarkov was the pioneer. marathon is a meme trend chasing, streamer pandering flop.
>>562836385Slow and steady wins the Marathon.A small step for humanity, but a huge leap for Marathon players.
>>562836438>scamSo I assume that you bought it and realized that you didn't like it after the refund window?
i love marathon so much, its unreal
>>562836183How is adding a firing range or literally any sort of practice mode "pandering to shitters" or "turning it into slop"Are you mentally sound?
>firing range is for fucking shitters>in a bungie gamelol?this game literally has built in bullet magnetism and aim assist ON PC.
CombatKnifeReduced the maximum lunge distance by ~10% and trimmed down the targeting angle by ~20%.Bubble ShieldIncreased rarity from Deluxe (blue) to Superior (purple)Reduced bubble HP by 33%Removed vulnerability to Volt Weapon damageIncreased resistance to UESC damage by 17%RunnersStatsMelee DamageReduced bonus damage provided by the Melee Damage stat from a maximum of 100% to a maximum of 50% against enemy Runners. Damage against non-Runner targets is unchanged.DEVELOPER NOTE: Melee in Marathon is intended to be a high-risk but potent method to contest close-quarters weapons like shotguns and submachine guns. However, the breakpoints for quick melee kills show up too early in the Melee Damage stat progression, which means additional investment into a build isn't required to get the maximum effective output. We don't want to compromise on having melee feel powerful, but believe that getting to that maximum output should be the result of meaningful buildcrafting and upgrade progression. Our goal for this change and the knife lunge changes above are that the knife remains a powerful backup tool, but requires more thoughtful play - both in and out of run - to be most effective.ThiefFixed additional Grapple-related slide cancel movement exploits.Vault and ArmoryFixed an issue causing the Vault and Armory to sometimes appear to be empty.Fixed an issue causing the Armory item refreshes and free daily items to not appear consistently.ContractsTraxusRemoved “in a single run” condition from Traxus Return On Investment 4/5.ZonesCryo ArchiveFixed an issue that would cause an exfil countdown to reset if the 1st crew member to enter left the circle, even if the other crew members were in the circle.
>>562836526I bought it and realised that 90% of what was advertised wasn't true and that the only way to make the game somewhat, sorta, kinda, playable was with a pre-made trio.Of course I missed the refund window because I couldn't just give up after 4 hours. I had to try and make sure it wasn't a (Me) problem, you see. And it took me 60+ hours of getting raped to understand that the game was unsalvageable.It's what happens when you try to make your next GaaSlop cashcow with no intention to make an actual video game.
>>562832325>>562832325what are you talking about the whole woke shill armada that we call gaming """journalists""" defended the game saying it was the best thing since sliced bread
Dude are mastery challenges broken? I'm trying to get Vandal and Recon done to say I mastered them before the buffs but they just won't work. Specifically the Vandal up here and Recon trifecta.
>>562783790It's sad really, no company with the expectation of INFINITE MONEY is going to make a singleplayer extraction game. HOLE has shown me that it can work very well, that game is immersive even with the modest amount of content it has.
>gut the knife>leave shotguns unchangedOk retards
Finally knife nerf
>>562836997>60 hoursBattered
/mg/ - Molestation General
>>562836997>And it took me 60+ hours of getting raped to understand that the game was unsalvageable.And it looks like you were raped so hard that you still spend time talking about the game you despise in its general. Impressive.
They should just add forge
SATANIC
>>562836895That's it? I thought they were supposed to buff Vandal and Recon today. I guess that's still WIP.>>562837485What's that?
>>562836385Thats MO, dont overdeliver kek.They should just have gone through with it.Its way more realistic that you might just get one objective done in teamplay, just reward everyone for the singular objective they achive.Woud make progression way more chill and loses way less salty.Right now you just feel like a delivery guy striding into a ghetto.
>>562837123>Knive is free>Shooty is an 2500 Credits WeaponThey want to nerf free kitters.They think you should use a shooty or submachine.
>>562837560The OG map editor/maker from Marathon Infinity and Halo
>>562837090I swear I’ve done the assassin revive one 3 times and it just won’t register, worked fine in the server slam
>>562838252If your getting one from the shop a grey shotty is 6k, might as well just buy the 10k Arachne kit at that point for a full blue kit
How long did it take you to realise that WSTR is pronounced Waster.As in, it gets people WASTED.
>>562838604??
>>562838604it's also because the shotgun in marathon 2 is called the WSTE-M (waste em)
>>562838604Nah I say Wooster, like rooster, like cock that you rape with
>>562838736mmmmmmmmmmn
>>562838604Took me 0 seconds because it's the shotgun from Marathon 2
>>562839356I can't understand the mindset of a cheater.
You will ALL be raped... by me...
Paul "Leave Bungie to me" Tussy...My hero...
>>562839356Based cheaters helping to kill this slop
>>562839538imagine getting to shit straight into the cereal of up to several stupid faggots at once and all they can do is baww and scream about it after having taken nice and big bites and you get to soak up said reaction and giggle and kick your feet around
>>562839356
>>562840337I can't imagine that. My mind doesn't work like this. I wouldn't want to do this in the first place. Like, who are these "faggots"? What did they do to me to deserve such treatment?
>>562840314Durandal is one of the shills from /mg/ I swear
>>562840314this dude is going to crash out hard when eos hits>>562840381strongest marathon defender
>My mind doesn't work like this.Yet you play a game entirely designed around shitting down other players throats.Curious.
>>562840314What's the point of posting that image?
>>562840750>t. Tahnit The Raped
>>562840381is that a tahnit alt account?
>>562840541idk they're just faggots for one reason or another and they scream real good so you shit into their cereal and soak it up because it's fucking funny to listen to them be twisted up in the panties over having their cereal shat into and eating itthis is the one lens through which i've ever dabbled with the likes of aimbot/wallhack/autoshoot all on at once quite many years ago now and it was a fucking riot and the very best part of it was when i encountered another person basically doing the same and it turned into a game of cyborg computer commander where we were going back and forth peeking each other to death with automatic headshots as everyone else died instantly around us again and again and again and againi'm not sure the other sorts of drives that might give rise to the impetus to fuck around as such but i'm pretty sure they exist
>>562840672>Indirect replyI seem to have upset you with my extremely mild statement, which is bizarre to me.>Yet you play a game entirely designed around shitting down other players throats.You could say this about every competitive activity in history. Everyone participating does so willingly and knows what's at stake. The base assumption is fair competition, which is why competitive video games get balance patches and crack down on cheaters. Not everyone is a good sport about losing (or winning, see: T-bagging), but that's their personal problem, and is generally looked down upon.
>>562839538I cheat and i'm a sore loser.If i dont have fun, nobody does.
>>562841124>and the very best part of it was when i encountered another person basically doing the same and it turned into a game of cyborg computer commander where we were going back and forth peeking each other to death with automatic headshotsSounds like you enjoyed fair competition. There is a way to have more of it.
>>562840672For bug people, beating the game itself matters more than beating the people playing the game. It shows a profound lack of empathy and bizarrely enough, pulls down their society as a whole
>Aztecross is back to Destiny 2every single streamer dropped the gamemarketing money well spent, Bungie
>>562841231>You could say this about every competitive activity in history.Absolutely not.>Everyone participating does so willingly and knows what's at stake.Wrong again and that's one of the main issues with Marathon. Not only people you encounter play for different reasons (pve vs pvp) but they also have different skill and gear. It's completely different from proper competitive games like CS, Quake, Starcraft etc, where everyone is on the same page and plays the same game with the exact same goal. And on top of that those games have actual matchmaking to ensure balance as much as possible.
>>562840314JEET CRASHOUT
>>562841527things are funny like thattoo bad marathon has effectively no form of meaningful stratification of players in the way of matchmaking so as to convey the slightest degree of equity or balanced competition in games lmaoi'll go fucking play deadlock if i want to pvpmany prefer counter strike or dotahmm what do these three things have in commonoh right they place pretty sincere priority with offering players earnest, level competition wherever they might sit in abilityfascinating
Welp knife is nerfed so I’m quitting now. 0 answers to getting raped by the WSTR anymore but Reddit faggots are jumping for joy at killing the game with this knife nerf. Now they will just complain about something else. It never ends with these soulless cunts.
>>562841908Fucking TOLD that gay nerd.
>>562841908>Deadlock and DotA>Farming creeps for half an hourOkay lol
>>562841827>Absolutely not.Could you elaborate?>Not only people you encounter play for different reasons (pve vs pvp)Marathon is a PvPvE game. If you want only one of these, you are playing the wrong game.>but they also have different skill and gear.There must be SBMM for the game to survive, but gear based matchmaking would remove the fun of looting dead runners since you'd just be getting sidegrades.
>>562841827>they also have different skill and gear. It's completely different>starcraftnta, but you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. starcraft not only lets you pick different gear by builds, it lets you play completely different races.>actual matchmakingcs didnt have any matchmaking AT ALL until global offensive. starcraft bw only had matchmaking in ranked, which you also have in marathon.
>Farming creeps for half an hour will make me God:(((>Camping a corner for half an hour will make me God:DDD
>>562842254>deadlock>zipline in>immediately constantly skirmishing with your opponents in the midst of desperately trying to keep up with creep-reaping and everything else going onhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGtokV-D0Loit's so fucking good mang stop making me want to reinstall it
I came in here looking to discuss the game since reddit is gay.This place barely even talks about the game aside from people attempting to get a rise out of one another. What the fuck. Where is there even to go to discuss vidya anymore? Don't say discord.
>>562842538Yeah I just found it boring after a while because soul advantage matters much more than mechanical skill much of the time. Besides, incentivizing sinner and camp clearing more than team fights felt more tedious than fun
>>562842787Twitter maybe? There just isn't a lot of new content to talk about and no one here makes oc anymore
>>562842787Play rook and discuss the game in prox chat at the pinwheel.
>>562842787What do you want to discuss? The game is fucked anon. Any discussion about it has been had already. Sony isn’t going to keep pumping money into this with a sub 10k low and 25k peak. The game is going to remain in its current state on life support to milk the few players for mtx.Do you really believe they’re going to put the money into this game to add new content to it? After such a colossal fuck up?
>>562842792mechanical skill is what gets you soul advantageand yeah you rat around as soon as you get the slightest bit of breathing room to push equipment gaps and come back when sufficient inertia is built to dab all over everyone with all your bros hopefully doing the same and make progress in the way of knocking over guardians or leveraging sieges into the opposite baseplease, fuck, oh my god i'm gonna be playing it again today at this rate the formula is basically peerless holy fuckthat icefrog/yoshi guy is a fucking savant deadlock is so goddamn fun it fucks me up
>>562843087Yes
>>562842787Knife nerf = game dead. Retards didn’t even nerf the shotgun
>>562843137I guessI just find the laning phase to be snooze worthy yet the most important compared to DotA
>Cross is back on Destiny and looks happier than he has in monthsIts over, isn't it?
>>562843307i have not experienced anything of the sort, nearly 100% of the time shit's going down out the gate almost the second everyone's off the line. it is on like donkey kong the whole fucking time, there's no relent and like twenty fucking minutes later it's ride or die knife edge shit for the rest of it when everyone has a little weight in their kit and every minute that passes it gets more dire and you have to struggle like fuck for the slightest of advantages or chinks poked into the opposing team to desperately capitalize onand last i played i was in a shitter bracket lmao and it's still so goddamn fucking fun
>50% damage reduction on player knife hitsHoly fuck it's over
sub 10k club
>shotgun now reigns uncontested in the sub 5m rangeWhat were they thinking?
do deluxe keys give good loot?I have two deluxe keys and wondering if the loot is good enough to wait until my friend gets on to share with him or if its petty enough to share with randoms
>>562844372They were just appeasing Redditors. Patch culture is more about appeasing your fanbase and raking in money rather than creating an actually good product. You sell people on the idea of a good product by “listening to your playerbase” meanwhile the playerbase constantly begs for changes that would ruin the game. If you have any amount of IQ above 60 then you should play games that don’t get patched/updated
>>562844372They were thinking that shitters that can't aim now can't contest geared players by spamming 2 knife lunges
>>562844372it already did before.if you arent using a wstr ur trolling.
>>562845425Yes. You can easily get gold stuff from them. Purple salvage from the blues too
Bungie status?
>>562845425are those the blue ones? almost always shit.
>make suggestions to slow/reverse player count bleeding>get called a cuck/faggot/scrub/noob/etc>get told to play other games>Marathon can't even hit 30k anymore>10k soon>EOS within a yearI swear, this game has a death cult surrounding it.They don't want the game to change at all, keeping their precious 'hardcore' extraction shooter exactly the same, even though no one wants to play it and it's lost 70% of it's playerbase in one month.
>>562846190RAPED... by me...
>>562846190RAEPED
>>562846614these retards are also the ones that would never spend more money on the game and would raise hell against paid content drops. Bungie managed to swindle the worst possible customer base and now they're stuck with them and driving away any shot at expanding the base. Actual poetic justice
>>562835520thats me whenever i use a controller on fps games. how do you people aim with those sticks? im all over the place
>>562846614A rape cult.Once raped, The Raped can never be unraped.It is not enough for me to get raped, other must be raped too.
>>562846916Silly anon, console "people" don't aim. They have an aimbot built-in.
>>562846937It's fun to rape tho
>Game about rape>Not available in Russia????
damn that was fast
The funnest I ever had in this game was playing destroyer so i could turbo sprint and the enemy team with my riot shield deployed, before i would thruster into them with my shot gun and knife at the ready. Repeatedly downing team mate after team mate with thruster + shotgun/knife combos.Hiding behind cover and trading bullets just means seeing who runs out of consumes first. Boring as fuck.I havent played in a week and with this news of the knife nerf I'm probably never coming back. Was fun game while it lasted.
>Deadlock discussion begins>Suddenly, someone complains about RussiansLike clockwork.
>>562847337They ruin every game they play, not surprising
>>562848136I'm Russian and I play Marathon.
>>562848136Trvthnvke.
>>562846614Its not even like the game is truly "hardcore" outside of Cryo Archive, because if its not snipers you're going up against its just assassin campers or shankers.
>>562848209This is a chicken or egg dilemma
>>562848418kek
>>562848374Cryo is just a reenactment of Pozieres Heights every time tho
>>562848374It is truly hardcore. The gameplay could be harder-core, but it is already within the spectrum of hardcore. The psychological stress puts this firmly in hardcore.
>>562848209And the game is going down the toilet. Who knew.
i was just spawned into ranked solo... what the fuck is going on. has solo ranked always been a thing?
is he right?https://youtube.com/shorts/AStaWIZUqvA
>>562849184Dota and Deadlock are doing great.
>>562849184It can't really go down the toilet when the community has already been in the toilet since the server slam.
>>562849238It's just ranked, not solo ranked. you are playing against trio rapesquads.
>>562849238Yeah you can solo queue ranked lol, have fun
chud game
>>562849439
>ranked is just a non-stop rape fest on the first POI the map collectively hears gunshots at with exactly zero of the cadence of a regular match and involves zero actual looting (the other half of the game)
>>562849285This shit is barely human, disliked + instantly closed the video.Ugly? I dont care about your opinion.
>>562849871pic >>562843137
If you subject yourself to ranked beyond the first couple of cursory attempts to see what it's about you are spiritually raped. Your soul is stained and you will not see the Kingdom of Heaven.
>>562849402>>562849357luckily i fuckig exfil'd but you're right... there's fucking squads. that is retarded
>>562851083I'm almost silver 3.
guys have there always been extraction machines on outpost?
>>562852020nyes, they are called DCONs
>>562852131No, not the dcons. On ranked outpost I was getting a green marker for an extraction machine. It's literally called an extraction machine.
>>562852926and i had no contract
how do you get attachments on your rook shotty?
>>562853249Factions?
WE are pigging out
Will Bungie offer refunds when the game shuts down, or at least pay for my rape therapy sessions?
>>562856407Numbah won: that's terror
>>562855996>Get raped within two hoursLmao
>>562856407
The asymmetrical nature of how people gear up in extraction shooters is almost antithetical to the nature of ranked.
>>562855202i have vip on almost all of them, where is the upgrade that upgrades the wstr? lol
>>562857073Isn't that the joy of it
>>562856407why does he make me uneasy
>>562857073ranked does not belong in this game and was only added becuase sweats need timesinks and "status symbols".
>>562857731What I'm saying is Ranked should have it's own structured loadout system.
>>562855996LOLgames almost been out for a monthit already passed the 2 week policy most companies have, and it beast Sony's secondary policy of>Able to refund a game if it is faulty or unplayableMarathon isn't faulty or unplayable, its just bad and not funThere will be no refunds for this shit, in fact they will probably do the scummy thing and put the game on sale to scrape out some more cash from peoples wallets, and then shut the game down 2week+ after that
>>562834568Doesn't explain why people, some of who gave the game a positive review just abandoned it so soon.>>562846614>I swear, this game has a death cult surrounding it.Yes. They want to pose that the game is an elite high skill game, for only the baddest motherfuckers. >>562849058The hardcore part is the focus on PVP and losing shit, the required aggression. That hyperfocus is repulsive to a large amount of the gaming and even FPS population. But if you talk about easing up on that, the people who enjoy that ideal of being your own rape squad lose their shit.
>>562858192>Doesn't explain why people, some of who gave the game a positive review just abandoned it so soon.>>>/v/736557693
>>562858192>AbandonedThere isn't a lot of content I guess
>>562858338>>562858436So, do these people come back with the server wipe and new maps? I guess we'll just have to see.
>>562857960Bungie and scamming people out of content they paid for, name a better duo
grim
I'm just not gonna touch ranked at all anymore and won't touch Cryo until they add a solo mode.
>>562858813just go LFG and put on your best gear for as many runs as you can and then go in with m77 wstr blue shield after
>>562842538I don't like Deadlock because all the pew pew attacks end up feeling like nothing, there's zero impact in them, because it's a MOBA, they're delivery methods for your on hit effects, but it feels like DOGSHIT in a shooter game. It feels fine in Dota because it's an RTS but Deadlock just doesn't work, you get zero feedback when shots hit.
>>562859019Valve has never made a satisfying shooter I dont care what CS trannies say
>>562859006No.
>>56285929020 years later, halocels still seething
what is the world coming to
>>562859290I like l4d
>>562855980they can't even add a single fucking greeble to make this unique? Fuck Bungie so god damn much. Low effort assholes.
>>562778287le wake the fuck up samurai face
>>562860084>l4dat release I hated that game because of how weak the gunplay felt and how unimpactful shooting zombies felt when its literally one of the biggest aspects of the game. its probably the worst example you could have named>>562859290day of defeat, team fortress are goated shooters.
Massive ban wave incoming. Streamers will return
>>562861480battleye is simply solved, they should have contacted the bf6 devs for their rootkit instead
>>562861480>stream snipingthe biggest non issue on the list. if you stream yourself playing to the literal public, you have no right to complain about people watching you
>>562861679This. Literally just stream with a delay. Death to streamers and their viewers.
i wish random trios on cheap loadouts werent the most completely fucking retarded people on the planet
>>562857073there is quite literally already "rank" in every extraction shooter, its just usually invisible. ranked just exposes the value and lets you track it easily.
>>562861480>muh stream sniping>muh chuds in voice chat (think of le streamers!)Nice to see we're still chasing after peanut's nuts rather than concerning ourselves with minutae like how fucking bad the game sucks
Just had a bleak realization: Half my friends list hasn't made it past level 50 and now that I think about it, I suspect they just quit. Haven't seen anyone under 50 online in a real long time.
>>562847315knife is still extremely strong, you just have to actually level arachnae and use knifefight. they made you have to invest properly to get the reward of that playstyle instead of just going half in on either archnae or knifefight and getting massive benefits to damage. it was not balanced before lol
>>562843137its not really that good lmao. farming is boring and fights are just ability spam.
>>562859006>just a different kind of randomsWhat the fuck is wrong with you retards? If I'm going to play with randos I'd rather not have to deal with discord.
>>562862210Amazing how they keep ruining their games chasing streamers
Nice fucking game Bungie
>>562862846You can actually coordinate before hand, retard
How do you even stream snipe in this game if matchmaking exists
>>562821031completely garbage, feels like that shitty delta force thing
>>562863683you don't, it's shitty streamers upset they can't stomp on noobs now that ranked exists and they are going up against those with actual mechanical skill. They never take any accountability for a loss, it's always a stream sniper or a bug or someone cheating
19k lol
>>562819619given there is matchmaking, if one team is able to sweep your team uncontested, you were much much worse than them and you deserved to get wiped.
My friend is hoarding like 12 purple shields and complains that "we always die to purple shields and have no chance" despite running into purple shields like once every five raids.
ez 20k today
>>562815650name a better extraction shooter right now
>>562863894>Streamers also have to own up to the fact that losses are inevitable in a game of this type.>Get endlessly butthurt instead.
>>562864210>inb4 t-t-thats not a REAL extraction shooter
>>562864210Aneurysm IV (you extract by logging out)
>>562864286what? its pretty obvious if something is an extraction shooter or not. can you name a better alternative right now than marathon?
>>562864578no because you're a bad faith indian that will move the goalposts by claiming any response isn't a real extraction shooter or isn't actually doing better based on your arbitrary subjective opinion rather than factual numbers. Even this level of engagement with retards like you is a complete waste of time and energy
>>562864210The DivisionThe Division 2Escape from Duckov
>>562864381seems interesting in concept but it looks dead and apparently everyone just rdms now? seems a bit more like a gmod rp server than a extraction, like you're intended to fulfil a role rather than loot and get out with a sort of meta progression
>>562864210"Extraction shooter" is a fake non-genre.It worked in Tarkov because it was naturally part of the game as a whole (multiplayer version of STALKER).But Marathon's entire identity is based on hardcore "extracting". And we all saw what it meant in practice.
This game is losing roughly 3k players a day at this rate
my friends went back to arc. reasoning: "bro i just wanna chill". i get it, yeah, but arc was boring for me.
>>562864797the division's player controller is just worse arc raiders so no thanksduckov is single player and even then, its just an average iso shooter
>>562864834I was meaning it like a joke, but I do like games where in game multiplayer loot persists while you're away
>>562864678you're like freaking out right now lol, here ill make this really easy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraction_shooteri agree that all of those ARE extraction shooters, i will not play any semantic tricks on you to argue genre. do you think any of those are better than marathon?
>>562864907there seems to be pretty firm conventions in place that make something an extraction shooter. do you think people are being completely schizophrenic when they made this page and grouped these together?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraction_shooteror do you think there are common threads that make it reasonable to associate those with one another?
>>562864210Borderlands 4 is more fun than this
>>562865130>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraction_shooter>"The people behind PUBG believe the extraction shooter is the next big thing". Polygon.lmeeoooooow
>>562864932unironically good, randoms are too fucking stupid. i want less players so get higher quality randoms.
I hate that bronze is full of purple sweat stacks I have like two purple shields to my name why isn't there a loadout limit for lower tiers? Purple should be like gold and up.
Why did Tarkov do so much better than this game? One thing I'd say is the solo experience, you can get quests and stuff done in tarkov without much trouble. Solo in this game sucks.
>>562865363im preferably looking for something with pvp, on top of all the loot stuff. borderlands doesnt have pvp. you also dont need to extract from a matchmade session in borderlands. you can quit the game mid sessions and keep all of your loot. call me a stickler, but I prefer my extraction shooters to have extraction.
>>562864932Even the most retarded slop sucking pigs have realized theyre not really getting any dopamine out of this just a big trough of cortisol
>>562865276>do you think people are being completely schizophrenicIt's not the people, it's the devs who believe extractors are the next big thing. You can see that it's all the same well known retarded triple-A studios doing it.ARC is an exception because Embark didn't know what they were doing and you can see how schizo the playerbase is (is this a pve game? is this a pvp game? is it chill or is it hardcore?).Tarkov shouldn't even be called Extractor Shooter. There are tons of better genres you can invent to describe it (Sukablyat Shooter, STALKER-like, etc).
>>562865689Slavs
>>562865373what? i dont really care about polygon or what the pubg guys said. do you think any of the games on that page give you a better extraction shooter experience than marathon?
>>562865689Milsim autists + people don't play Tarkov like it's a BR
>>562865689Because most people don't play it for the extraction part alone. The appeal is the tacticool semi realism, the slav-core atmosphere and then scavenging, just like in the OG stalker games. But it's much deeper than just running around and killing people while they try to loot a trinket for some quest.
>>562865921>extraction shooter experienceWhat does this even mean exactly?
>>562861480I actually don't care about cheaters because I'll never play ranked. Just remove it and stop catering to streamfags, none of them even like the game lmao
>>562865767there are EXTREMELY notable conventions that when combined make something an extraction game -load up your character/take a free option (scav, rook, freeloadout in arc)-matchmaking into a lobby with npcs and players alike-loot-get out by reaching extraction in order to keep the loot im trying not to sound frustrated but like genuinely what the fuck is going on lol this is extremely obvious to me is this is a new thing where people pretend there arent extremely solid conventions that make something a part of this genre? like when marathons game loop was revealed, people instantly clocked it as extraction. was everyone just collectively hallucinating?
>>562866304Eh, I guess my main letdown compared to the trailer was that UESC wasn't a bunch of pushovers
>>562866142-load up your character/take a free option (scav, rook, freeloadout in arc)-matchmaking into a lobby with npcs and players alike-loot-get out by reaching extraction in order to keep the lootare we just pretending this isnt what we all mean when we say extraction shooter? am i going to get pilpulled and you're going to try to convince me words dont actually mean anything and all genres are fake? just tell me now so i know to tap out early lol
>>562862210>bans for no-no wordsYeah I’ll believe it when it happens
>>562865689early to the genre. if you go back and try playing tarkov today it feels like fucking ASS. feels like you have bricks in your shoes and an anvil taped to your head.
>>562866717Tarkov is an rpg
>>562864210road to vostok
lol the playerbase is in free fall.I guess the cheating and the streamers crashing out over the cheaters or just being destroyed by another tryhard team was the final nail in the coffin for this game's casual playerbase.and the best part about this? Bungie are not going to do shit. They're going to pull another Curse of Osiris and Warmind until either Sony step in or the content team (LOL) save them
>>562866497Well I think those conventions are shit and aren't enough to define a genre and Marathon is the perfect example of that.The game doesn't even play like that. Trios (premades) play like it's a TDM / BR, and solo is a total mess.
>>562863683How do you get teams of 6 or higher?>>562821031It's in early dev. Some people think it has potential. I don't think they know what they want. Last I checked they wanted a ghost recon extraction shooter with some woo woo shit. SE asia.
Why does everyone hate that it's a hardcore game? gamers are so casual now, if you want to win in this game you actually have to try to win, everyone just wants everything handed to them now
>>562867576Most of the Internet is poor and/or brown so the lack of money and malnutrition combined with poor education makes them entitled and emotionally fragile
>>562867576just buy a cheat subscription and git gud
>>562821252>STOP MAKING PREDICTIONS ABOUT THIS GAME DYINGIt had a shit launch and is consistently losing players. Game will probably hit a stable pop at some point, but whether it's enough to pay for millions in ongoing server and dev costs? I wouldn't count on it. >>562824397I wouldn't underestimate them like the press does.
>>562867576It's not hardcore, it's just barely playable if you aren't in a static trio. And even streamer premades are getting mindbroken.
>>562867576>The hardcore extraction shooter that has bubbles and nealry an infinite supply of self revives.It's more of a shitty battle royale than anything seriously hardcore with all of the abilities
>>562867576>aim assist out the ass>bullet magnetism>weapons with full lock onYeah buddy it’s really hardcore
>>562867576>Why does everyone hate that it's a hardcore game? gamers are so casual nowIt's not gamers, it's the normalfags who don't say nigger IRL.The normalfags who don't have thousands of hours on multiple games. They suck dick at everything that doesn't have "strict, reactive SBMM", and engagement optimized algorithms. You can stomp them by just sliding towards them in Marathon. It's unbelievable how bad they are.
lil scrawny roided white boi be thinkin he wont get raped on the spot if he said the game word IRL
I actually cannot believe you guys are trying to hard behind the hardcore aspects of this gameDespite it being the mcdonalds of extract shooters.
The Lego Star Wars of extractor shooters
>Arc player>typical CoD player>Fortnite player>typical Apex player>Battlefield(lol) player>Destiny(Lmfao) playerThey're all extremely easy to kill on Marathon. The "average" SBMM player sucks niglet balls at video games. Safe matchmaking players are far below the average Marathon player.
>>562865693Then go play helldivers if you need a digital ship to extract you off the map lmao
I just came here to clown on the maratroons don’t mind me but can someone explain what the fuck is this obsession with rape? Where did this come from and what is this meme
>>562869558I live in a Private community, no buses, or any public transportation here. No niggers. What's Mr Votta and Mr Stephenson gonna do? Call the cops when they hear me saying nigger, walking next to Corey and Andrew?Marathon is a lot better than the SBMM dogshit, handholding games.
>>562869668The gunplay is so bad and the aim assist/magnetization overturned that i can only assume anyone calling this hard-core is the brownest of brown>>562870248Play 1 round of the game and you'll understand its a rape game
Is Captain Orion voiced by Andy Serkis?
>>562870342I won’t buy this game so unless someone wants to buy it for me I guess I will remain un-raped
>>562870248I prefer it to the usual tranny obsession desu
>>562870248We are bungie rape victims.
>>562870248/hg/ meme
Marathon is the most fun game of the generation, never have I stomped so many bad players per hour. Well, maybe in Advanced Warfare(2014), but that had some SBMM, part of the shitters were protected.
Co-Evolution 4/5 is easily the worst contract in the game
>>562870749KEK
>>562870874>cat head wider than the bicepsLmfao
>>562870248destiny fags got raped by bungie and are now insisting that everyone who’s playing this game is being raped even if they’re having fun. you can go to /dg/ and ctrl+F marathon btw probably more discussion about the game there than here. they’re insecure about marathon
>>562870961
>>562871007ex Destinyfag here. We're not insecure. We simply want both games to fail so Bungie is liquidated
>>562862846>just a different kind of randomslearn english you dumb spanish retard
*walks towards you*Start praying, SBMM dependent faggot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZ2NShfCE8
>>562870248its just the opposite of arc raiders, it's an extraction shooter where the game gives you every extra incentive to kill other players, and it's designed in such a way that players will inevitably gank one another. For example whenever you open a key room, requiring a rare key drop, the game sounds the rape alarm that can heard across the map, so other players can come try to rape you knowing where you are and that you definitely have good stuff. Nearly all the contracts (quests) involve getting locked in a room while bots spawn in and another rape me alarm gets blared across the zone. It's just a big rape of time
>>562871724This is why I never did PvE quests. I don't have Traxus unlocked, but maxed out Arachne
Apparently, there is supposed to be a big mid-season update next week.
>*spreads ur playercount*
Why did marathon general not tell me about the outland sniper? could this be a weapon that changes the game? I got one and wiped an entire 3 man squad with six shots. where do you get more of them?
>>562871890enjoy the arachne recolor skins and announcement of permanent duo queue
>>562871842Yeah I did NuCal but stopped at around halfway through the rest. Doesn't help that I dont give a shit about any of the traxus upgrades.
>>562872141And Recon and Vandal buffs.
>>562861679>>562861916streamers have to make a living somehowyou are the same sick fucks who hope bungie dies and all those 800 families starve to death
>>562870497>I prefer it to the usual tranny obsession desuI knew the trannies wouldn't last, when I played the beta. Game's too manly for those pathetic fools
>>562871279Post your thong pics twink we know you have them
>>562872141>permanent duo queuePlz no, my best runs so far have been getting carried by godlike duos in fill queue
>>562872401
you know the game and general are dead when fags, furries, trannies, and everything else in between come out of the woodwork and take over
>>562873116I'll post gameplay and tactics when the crying shitters leave
Ive never played Rook until level 44 right now and I walked out of outpost with an 8k haul. The fucking money grind for solos is soul suckingly bad but one piece of shit skilless rook can make as much as I find in a whole play session but in a single run. I fucking hate how bad this game is balanced. All it revolves around is trios. As a rook you don't even have to kill anyone, just mop up the body bag juice that no one else was willing to carry. Blue shields just lying on the ground in trio lobbies and in my solo career I only found a single one, and I had to kill that fucker with free shit.God damn I wish they would actually shut this entire thing down for a few months just to adjust the balance and solo offerings.
>>562873347>The fucking money grind for solos is soul suckingly bad but one piece of shit skilless rook can make as much as I find in a whole play session but in a single run.Can't relate to this, I only play to kill those who desire to exfil. If there's no time to loot, I'm ok with exfilling with nothing.
>>562873347yeah you can make a fortune just waiting till the last few minutes and loot the scraps in pinwheel
>>562872868Put a ruler up to your arms
>>562873492So you're like the opposite of me, right. Exfil watcher, gotcha man, a skilled wait-and-go-loot runner. I hate low effort rich fags like you. I've earned everything I've extracted with.
>>562865130>b-b-but I said better
player retention with this piece of shit be like a raped up gaped up shitpipe
>>562873545Noted. The only reason I'm doing this is because I'm locked out of pinwheel as a solo and I need these upgrade mats to progress. I hate this passive playstyle but the game is punishing me for not having two no-life friends that can play with me every day.I'm just flabbergasted by how well Rooks eat when I've been dragging myself through broken glass for 3k hauls.
Why are south asians so obsessed with marathon?
>>562873821>I hate low effort rich fags like you. I've earned everything I've extracted with.Rich? No, I rarely loot people, because 1 second is left by the time I kill them at their exfil. And someone else is coming, I'm not gonna die. I'm ok with extracting with just kills. If I kill someone in a room, I'll loot him. If he's in the wide open, I'm not touching that bag.
>>562874358Rock Solid is polish tho
You may dislike it, but this is what optimal running looks like.20 minutes of uninterrupted Pinwheel looting and it was pure poverty, even after opening Command Wing, I thought loot on Pinwheel got buffed? Or do you NEED to grab 3 red keys somehow?
>>562871279he cute
Jokes on you because atleast Destiny was actually fun from time to time.Marathon literally has nothing. PvP? pfff, if I wanted to PvP I would just wait for Iron Banner or MayhemSecret missions with boss encounters?If I want to PvE I would just look for a group to do Exotic Missions, Dungeons, Raids.
>>562874504How did you grab the keys
>>562874557Destiny looks ugly to me so I always passed on it
Game couldn't even last a month
Sub 30k peak achieved. Idk if I can handle the nut I'm gonna bust when we hit the sub 20k peak.
>>562874559I didn't open the red key locked command room, just opened command wing by hitting those two switches on the other wings.
>run or peek anywhere>instantly diepeople just dont miss. oh wait its the fucking cannon ball projectiles, aim assist and bullet magnetism. nice low skill garbage game, thanks bungie retards
I wont lie. The best part about this game's general was the regular escharum and calus posting.
>>562874557this kills the marasissies
>>562874885It's not dead yet.
>>562874504the command wing strongbox is pinnacle now but I rarely see good shit in that one, 3 red room is buffed and always has a cryo vault key but i swear they stealth nerfed that shit within hours of the patch because streamers were posting their hauls of 2 gold weapons every single run, my squad opened it 15 times later that night and saw ONE fucking gold chest implant and nothing else
>>562875906Yeah it is in 3 weeks we’ll be under 10k
>>562874557is that... a scenic shot?? damn! that looks straight out of halo 4!
>>562874557>if I wanted to>If I want to>doesnt>goes to marathon
>>562876189It always seems to be cryo key 1 or 2 though, + 2-3 enzyme replicators. Honestly the best thing you can get out of there is prestige salvage
Marawon
WHERE DO I GET BIOLENS SEEDS, I HAVE 80 HOURS AND ONLY HAVE 4 THIS IS RETARDED
Marajeets
>>562877596Interesting things I got from the red key room:- Cryo 04 (and plenty of 01-02)- Gold lmg attachment- Gold leg implant- Gold salvage (can't remember which one)Most often its random blue/purple stuff but now we get gold from time to time.
>new ziegfaggotOur experiment is almost complete with the duos queue and we've gathered a lot of valuable information to help us finalize our plans for duos for Season 2. With the culmination of the duo experiment, we just wanted to thank everyone who has participated and helped us learn more about duos in Marathon, and tease that we're looking to bring the queue back better than ever in the course of Season 2. More details to come on that in future updates.Details:- On Wednesday 4/8 at 10 AM PT we will be disabling the "Outpost - Duos" Queue.- There will be a new experimental queue starting on 4/15 at 10 PT. More details about this queue coming next week.In regards to experiments, we have a new experimental queue we'll be running starting on 4/14. We'll have more information on this queue within the next week, and look forward to you joining us again to help us learn more about additional features we're interested in adding to our game.Thanks again for helping us evolve this game!
>knife lunge nerfW>knife damage nerf to playersW>bubble rarity increase WW>bubble health nerf WW update, Bungie cooks again. Although I think bubble could still function as it previously did but with a 10s timer so it works more as a grenade than a permanent tool. You shouldn't toss one to camp in, they should be tactical options to quickly get a rez and then dip or provide a small buffer instead of endless stalemates.
>>562880065>- There will be a new experimental queue starting on 4/15 at 10 PT. More details about this queue coming next week.Bot queue: you can queue as a UESC bot.
>>562880065It's Cryo duo or solo 100%
>>562880065>In regards to experiments, we have a new experimental queue we'll be running starting on 4/14Hype
so no life nerds with purple shields get ahead even more? the knife was the great equalizer. you can't two shot them anymorethe rich get richer
>>562880549Wdym shotties still exist
>>562880738This, you get a free WSTR every day from Arachne.
>>562880549Your fault for not having played for 100 hours in the first week
>>562879250I got one from killing a named enemy in orientation hall
>Asian players will save our g-ACK!KEK. That's the LAST group of players you want in your lobbies, they're all fucking cheaters.
AIF YOU HAVE A FREE KIT IT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL PURPLE SHIELDS, YOU COULD KNIFE THEM TWICE IF THEY PLAYED BAD AND GOT CLOSE. NOW THEY CAN WATCH TIKTOK CLUIPS ON THEIR OPHONE AND OTHER MONITOR AND PLAY HALF ASSED AND WIN NO MATTER WHAT
This is my first extraction shooter and let me tell you:This genre is utter dogshit.
What's stopping them from scaling loot with lobby player counts? Carebear lobbies for grinding gray mats to assrape lobbies for purple mats
I will legitimately laugh if this game goes below 20k in the next week and a half. Halo MCC the game that didn't even work properly for over a year will somehow outlivedBungie's newest title.
>>562881556>Someone who spent 0 credits is at a disadvantage against a full kitWooooowwwwwwww
>>562881606What do you mean.Extractions shooters is the next Fortnite. The next Pubg.A 4 billion studio like Bungie can't be wrong.
>24 hour peak at 28,000KWAB. This dogshit game will be dead soon.
>return knife damage to previous value>keep lunge distance nerf>never EVER offer melee damage buff contractor upgrades again.I think this is the most fair way to balance it, everyone having 100 melee from arachne alone is why it feels so strong, but if you build into it with proper mods and cores you should be able to two-hit anyone.
>>562881556Good, you're a fucking amoeba, a worm that skulks around the map looking for the leftovers. Freekitters should be third class citizens.
>>562881754IN TARKOV YOU COULD KILL FULLY KITTED PLAYERS AS A SCAV, GUESS WHAT, TARKOV DIDNT DIE IN UNDER A MONTH!!
a full 3 hit "light" combo with 100 melee stat should still bring down a purple shield if my calculations are correct
gray zone mogs so hard its not even funny
>>562882020This ain't Tarkov ma boy
I think what sparked my interest in this particular flopwas how dedicated the shills and fanboys were, there were people on the official marathon discord telling each other to leave the game running when it was sitting at 60-70k ccu. and then now apparently their subreddit devolved into a cult hugbox? goddamn thats funny.
>>562882238You're even more raped by a bunch of discord troons apparently
>>562882238Those "people" have chud derangement syndrome. Express any form of criticism? CHUD! GO BACK TO WATCHING STEAMCHARTS IM HAVING FUN SKILL ISSUE. POSITION YOURSELF BETTER. LISTEN TO STEPS. GET OVER GEAR FEAR.They're as deranged with chuds as irl commies are deranger with our führer, Adolf hitler.>disagreement? nazi
>>562882238You're both sides of the same retard coin
>Just doing quest with the bare minimum/sponsored kitswow what a thrilling game
>>562882795Low stakes kits are comfy because I don't have to sweat about losing it. Honestly I don't know why they didn't ape the gear ante that ABI does for each of its maps as a baseline.
>>562882471>>562882784seethe
>>562881606Arc raiders already solved the genre of a primarily pve game with the risk of pvp. But you have to segregate the children or they ruin it for everyone else.
the playercount is dropping earlier than it usually doesit really is dying faster this week
>>562883428It's easter.
>>562883628uh huh
>>562883708People are going chasing chocolate eggs, trvst the bunqie plqn.It's a niche genre the game can survive with 5k concurrent players.
Ranked status?
>>562883428WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING
PEANUT QUICK STREAM MARATHON YOU NEED TO SAVE US
>>562884023>all streamers quit>casuals are quitting>sweats are quitting>bungo admits there's cheatersit's over
There should be no faction progression besides missions and everyone's vaults get wiped weekly
>>562884230>everyone's vaults get wiped weeklyyeah it's called cryo archive
i have vip with a single faction, i dont have blue shields unlocked, i just play the game casually and try to kill people, get good loot, and exfil. i dont autistically study access code locations or anything and i've only done cryo like 2 times without a free kit. somehow im the top 6% of players as far as "tryhard" vs "casual" goesits fucking insane to me how 50iq burgers were begging for a nerf that, in the end, only served to benefit the 1% of the playerbase that already has farmed up purple shields. now literally everyone below them is just going to get assraped by the WSTR with 0 counterplay. except your own WSTR (and hoping they fuck up) wow. great change devs.
I fucking hate the thief drone because there's zero counterplay to it, you either have to shoot it or let them keep pinpointing your location
>>562885129Very annoying in solos but you can't think like that in trios, if the drone sees you the team already knows where you are you're free to shoot
>>562885352speaking as a solo simian
>>562885352and now you've revealed yourselves to at least 2 other teams on their way to rape you, good luck
>>562884773are you talking about the knife nerf?
time to buttchug some ranked
>>562885987Good luck, remember to lube up.
Complete this words Marassies_ _ P E D
>>562886149WIPED
>>562886149MOPED
Traxus freekit is actually such dogshit like fucking lmao the stock hardline is one of the worst guns in the game
>>562886149COPED
>>562886149BIPED
everytime i say im done with this game 3 hours later im clicking play on steamwtf is wrong with me
>>562886149PIPEDThe natural state of all thief mains
>>562886832you're a fan
>>562886832hop on gray zone bro
>>562886832mentally raped
>>562886832The game is good, despite the shit it catches.You're just going through the frustration of the genre. Nobody likes losing shit.
>>562886149DOPED
>>562886149STPED
bruh what wtf is a core storage container like nah bruh fr :crying laughing face:
>>562786797Devs deserve castration for this.
marathonthe saved
>>562887739The square containers that hang on walls that aren't medical cabinets>>562786797>include system where you have to worry about your shell's mechanics and software>barely any ways to inflict these on other players>applying them to the UESC does fucking nothing to them>the few ways you can apply these to runners is just with grenadesBungie let me bring in a fucking hacking tool or something that lets me fuck with enemies in a localized area. Make it take up a weapon slot and just make it so it can't directly kill someone. Then make it so if people have a high software/hardware stat they can outright be immune to shit, whereas having weaker stats can make you more prone to being fucked with and compromised
The WSTR is truly my best friend, it saved me from being raped too many times to count. Especially with all these assassins around.
>>562888414:prayer hands:
>>562888584I just started basically, how long/hard is it to get Rook spawning with a shotgun?
>>562883428Bc the Iran war is ending so power is turned back on and people have more stuff to do.
>>562885665yeah but so does everything else
>get scouted out by a purple shielded thief while i'm freekitting>in perimterThis is so fucking GAY
>>562889057trump raped iran with his diplomacy skills
>>562889745bruh you lost a freekit :skull:
>>562888953probably like 70+ hrs due to the blue/purple salvage needed, you can focus on rushing VIP arachne to get more reflex coils from the packages, they're a bitch to find otherwise
The nerds to the knife should stay>BUTit now pierces shields and does direct HP damage no matter what We Dune in this muhfukka
>>562888414>Bungie let me bring in a fucking hacking tool or something that lets me fuck with enemies in a localized area.Thief can hack by giving them the Agarthan stare because why the fuck not, what can't she even do.But considering I don't think I've ever gotten hacked by a Thief even once in a fight I don't think it matters
>>562889617true i guessi knife bots about 80% of the time to keep gunshot noises down but other POIs can probably still hear the bots occasionally shooting me
>game is swirling down the shitter>time to bankroll articles that say [game] is like [good game] you should play it now!!!
>>562786797The idea behind your post sounds extremely obvious, but it would actually make snipers even more oppressive, because you won't be able to countersnipe them.>thermal visibility based on heat gauge>the sniper is still and has no heat, while the players running around in his LOS are moving and this have heat and are more visibleAt least how it works right now, the only advantage he has comes from camping ie. a surprise attack against unaware enemies, the Longshot just lets you camp at a distance. Making thermals heat dependent will make the sniper even more oppressive against non snipers.
What other extraction shooters should I play? Didnt enjoy tarkov, despite putting about 100 hours into it I just hate the quest grinding in that game, I prefer just ratting factory and ground zeroes lmao. I’ve also played hunt but I was kinda confused, I don’t really like having to google so much stuff and that’s my main problem with the extraction shooter genre. I like just ratting
>Game crashed>Gear gone>Quest progress back to 0LOLLMAOROFLMAO EVEN
>>562890562>paying for articles that no one reads >more than a month after the game has come outah sweet, damage control
Game barely above 21k in peak east coast time lmao
I like how Marathon is consistently the most searched game on steamdb every day
Instead of plsying this you could tune in and watch nuclear fireworks drop on some sand villages
>>562891250fake news, orange man brought world peace
>>562891162how can you check that?
>>562891594when you click the search bar it shows you the most searched games
Got my fucking revenge, killed a different purplefag in Perimeter on my freekit and now it's gonna just sit in my vault until wipe. One less purple shield in the economy.
>>562891916 o i c
Why are schemas just as expensive as buying the item direct from the armory? Shouldn't they be free or heavily discounted?
>>562892745Bungie's retarded and thinks we're all rolling in credits instead of just immediately spending them on grenades and faction upgrades
>>562890256Why would you stare at someone and hack them when you can just kill them? Like hack is actually a super useful ability but because of how the game plays 9/10 times you're better off just shooting someone to death as opposed to mog maxxing them for 3 seconds straight and THEN shooting them.
120 hours and I finally reached level 50, kind of insane how big of a nerf your level curve is if you aren't just spamming trios and leeching.
>>562893086>playing with other people having a good time, helping with each others quests and sharing credit>leechingmindbroken
>>562893086The game well and truly starts to feel like a Battle Royale by that point, because you're playing with people extremely familiar with the maps and all too eager to rush.
>>562893669I don't want to play a BR, I want to play an extraction shooter. If I wanted a BR I would just play Fortnite.
Rook is unironically the most way to play.
Games so fucking bad i redownloaded borderlands 4 and am finishing the story. I already know what happens cause I looked it up too. This game is a monumental failure
Do you feel bad for the devs that are gonna get laid off because of greedy leadership decisions?
>>562893760Unfortunately that's not how people seem to treat Marathon as. Most of the times people don't even stand over your body because they're trying to loot you, they just move along just for the love of the game.
>>562893336The thing is it is leeching, your level rate is hyper accelerated if you only do trios which is how you end up seeing so many people that are level 120+ when we're not even halfway through the launch of the game. You get 1/3 the exp in solos, I've had runs where I've killed 20 UESC, done my quest, killed 3 guys and got out with at least a 5k haul, exhausting the timer and I am lucky to get 300 exp for the whole run. 400 tops.
>>562894075Game is fun you just can't stand losing loot which is why you resorted to a shit fucking hoarder game like Borderlands, because filling your inventory with useless crap tickles your brain more.
https://x.com/i/status/2041499529074090421Paul is the datto of Destiny for Marathon.
>>562894158Like I fully expect by the wipe we will have people easily eclipsing level 300 and even getting into the 400s which is absolutely fucking psychotic if you stop and think about it.
>>562894158The game is blatantly designed around trios. Other players leveling faster in the default game mode is not a problem, nor is it muh stolen valor.
The Marathon game, Bungie's last Hail Mary, is on a downward trajectory... recording the lowest 24hr peak players of 28k players. This is not sustainable.Bungie still has 200-300 core live team members with an average salary of $150-200k. Server infrastructure upkeep costs are about $2 million a month for most top-end extraction shooter-style server burden. Marathon is particularly server-heavy, with a lot of its gameplay mechanics residing on the server side to limit cheating. In total, the monthly burn is estimated to be around $4-6 million a month.Even assuming 350k daily active users... the average purchasers of battle passes for most games of this type is in the range of 10-20%. Even in the case where the people who do engage in MTX buy $15-25 a month in the in-game shop... probably about 10-15% of the player base, the total MTX revenue is only going to be $4 million MAX. This means even in the most optimistic scenario, they are merely breaking even... realistically, they are operating on a $1-2 million loss a month right now. Obviously, this is not sustainable.Can Marathon turn this around with a massive overhaul and game redesign that gives the game the appeal for most gamers? If the game continues on this trajectory, by the end of 2026, the game will likely shut down.
>>562894195Yea rape or be raped isnt fun sorry your genetics are fucked and you get off on that desu this game's a litmus test of who shouldn't have been born. If you like this game at its core your parents should've been castrated
>>562894885I mean it was spring break recently and honestly all the casuals have kinda dipped out all thats left is actual players that are enjoying the game Bungie has found its player base but they can always build off on that like Destiny & Destiny 2 im sure this will expand later on.
>>562894939Still here instead of enjoying Borderlands, anon?
>>562894513It’s one of those issues that is invisible to the braindead normoid so it’s never going to get looked at by the devs.
Cool and breezy 25k inbound
>>562895179Still here at 23k lmao?
>>562894195Game is fun? Lol. Okay. You must be a bubble shield trionigger or just like level 45. Have “fun” getting raped over and over by bubble WSTR trios, I’m gonna be playing actually good games
>>562895529Are the loading times that long or were you all talk all along?
>>562895607You'll keep replying because like that other anon, assuming you aren't him, you are just a boasting faggot.
>>562895626Are you so brown and deficient that you cant type and play at the same time lmao literal Indian marathon shill plugging away at that 3k daily decrease you'll get em soon raj
>>562895753>you are just a boasting faggot.Yep Indian shill confirmed no one else uses boast or boasting
HOW CAN HE BOAST
>decide to try thief in solos>dire marsh holding algae ponds>use drone to recon around intersection>there's a blue shield destroyer sitting in the east tower at the gate on the second floor>doesn't shoot my drone because he doesn't wanna attract the UESC>ram my fucking drone into the window and shatter it>window smashing alerts the UESC and they all jump up into the tower and start opening fire on the destroyer>he jumps out of the window and breaks for greenhouse while healing>grapple into the open and shoot him in the backMight actually be the most scummiest kill I've gotten in the 200+ hours I've played. Funny for me but holy shit was the destroyer fuming when I went up to finish him.
>>562894885>Server infrastructure upkeep costs are about $2 million a month for most top-end extraction shooter-style server burdenI'd love to hear the source on this.
>>562896523thiefsissies need to be punished....
Maybe a collab with a big name IP will boost interest in marathon?
>>562896523>most scummiest kill I've gotten>doing the early mission where you go into the tick infested building >cannot figure out how to get in>discover the vent as I hear someone approaching>jump down, it's a room big enough for two people>the other guy is running around trying to find the entrance>don't want to unlock the door to the ticks and give away my position>just sit there with my knife out>stab him to death the moment he drops downI still feel bad about this one.
>>562898274STAR WARS
>>562898274>big name IPI know you're memeing, but big name IPs are all so fucking dead and shit at this point that it would actually be a detriment to interest. Maybe they should rework the game into something people actually wanna play to boost insterest
>>562898547I think bungie should just lean more into anime and get a collab with some flavor of the month anime. Maybe like something like Demon Slayer I don't know.Or they could always do a gacha collab. The game Nikke could kind of work because their cybernetic robots or something like that.
Tung tung tung sahur would unironically save Marathon
>>562898274i like when you say dumb shit like this and out yourself as a wanna be business guru
>>562778287What is that thing ? You can play with toys in marathon ?
>>562899035You can extract with it and see it in game, but that's about it
>>562899135I see. Collect and extract but no play...
What about a bleach collab? You can have a bankai meter and for every NPC or player you kill, it charges up. NPCs give less of a charge up and player kills give more. And then when you release it you get a sword from Bleach that allows you to one shot players or do devastating damage to NPCs
>>562899356sounds awesome for fortnite
Got my first gold implant from the overflow warden.Literally a super saiyan powerup on Vandal
I've got 100 hours in this game and have never seen a gold implant
>Fun to play>Cool visuals and art direction (fuck off, game looks great)>Interesting lore>Wasted on a fucking extraction shooterGame would have been better as a regular old campaign shooter with unlockables, secrets, NG+ and so on.
THESE are the cosmetics they choose to sell? Recolors? For money? Are they stupid?
>>562899868Nice
Updated Melee Hits to Kill, with TTK as well! Thanks to the patch notes, I confirmed that quick melee scaled from 25 base to 50 damage at 100 stat (now to 37.5), with light/heavy knife being 1.5x/2.5x scalar. You now need all upgrades and implants to guarantee a 1-combo kill.
>>562900056the codex has nice unlockables
>>562900452before I would just spam, because it does light light heavy, is it still better to just spam like this always?
>>562900056If it's anything like doom 2016 or eternal, I'd rather have this. There hasn't been a good single player shooter campaign since Halo 3
>>562900452>this is how I find out light melee has a heavy finisherMan I wish the game explained this haha I always just do overhead heavies because it was the only thing I thought one shot recruits
>>562900126I like the base designs enough that I'm honestly fine with cheap recolors and the more unique ones they launched with Destroyer's ranked skin looks great, and they can clearly pull off weirder shit like the Cryo skins I'm honestly glad they're not trying to make everything completely fucking outlandish
>>562901240Normal people want cosmetics that change shit,. You are an outlier.
>>562900056Nah, playing the role of a runner is coolIt's basically Running Man with online players The only issue is how fucking dumb lobbies get when stacked teams just run around the map uncontested
>>562900126>Are they stupid?No they're desperate so theyre churning out sloppa recolors in the hopes that any green numbers will make Sony not fucking murder them
>>562900056The art direction for me is fine, I think the one thing that puts people off are some of the character designs. Like Thief and Assassin get the point across as synth bots just fine, and Rooks are definitely lower budget robots clearly for a more general use or disposable purpose, but that's also next to more bulky and outlandish designs like Vandal, Destroyer and Triage. But yeah it just sucks that the world is still wasted on an extraction shooter. I know that it was apparently said that senior devs forced the rank and file to make an extraction shooter, but it was still a horrifically bad idea because Marathon as an IP had zero presence in the current day collective consciousness until very recently. Up until its reveal the people that were aware of Marathon basically fell into 3 groups >OG Bungie Macfags and fans of old DOOM clones>lorefags that latched onto the Marathon references in Destiny and Halo>and everyone else that goes "Oh yeah, Bungie did that before they went onto work on Halo".It was fucking stupid to go all in on an extraction shooter side story instead of making a more focused single player title to get people invested first.
>>562902248Assassin looks really faggy desu hes wearing lipstick and looks like hes ready to slurp you
i just don't like the stupid fabric tubes that are dangling off vandal's back. why the fuck are they there? they're not shirt sleeves, she doesn't have a hoodie or something hanging from her shouldersthe cute girl in boxy t-shirt is a good aesthetic though
>>562901363>You are an outlier.*a retard
>>562902852Pointless aesthetics that shouldn't be there. Why would the mobile slidey jumpy runner have 2 things that would get caught on objects trailing off her
I hope the new experimental mode is sponsored kits only free-10k, but just free would be a lot of fun
>experimental modeIf it isn't pve, it's over.
>even lower than yesterdayJust admit it Marasissies you are RAPED.
>>562906902The only dude counter doomposting is an Indian shill lol theyre all raped and waiting for the end
>plasma filaments spawn in AI Uplink>sweep the entire POI>find one (1) (uno) filament before I have to exfil
>Halo posting in 2026Some of you really can't develop a personality, wow
>>562907184Very true saar
raped sissy above me
>>562907184I would feel bad for Halo fans but if you play Halo after 4 you're actually just sub-human in my eyes. I have more respect for people who play FIFA.
I like the demolition.
>>562906902>muh floaty shit movement baby game I played when I was 12 :(
>>562906585If it is pve it's still over. Punting on all the design failures to make a casual mode for carebears won't stop the death spiral.
>>562900056Just like how system shock did great right
>>562908228Titanfall 3 will sell gangbusters this time!
>>562908228Just like how the original Halo trilogy did. What company made those games again? Maybe Bungie could learn a thing or two from them.
>>562908426>2004 fps game ecosystem compared to two decades later will do really well! Huh? What’s Fortnite?
>>562900126I like the yellow jacket but I wouldn't pay $5(?) for it.
>Some faggot is larping with a game that died even harder than this one despite being F2PI'm genuinely baffled by some of the creatures this site draws out.
>>562908552You referenced 1994 game here >>562908228. Besides, the new Doom games did pretty well.
>>562902852emergency sleeves for when it's brr chilly out
Somehow my best Dire Marsh run yet, was able to basically do 2/3 lockdown events because I caught a thief trying to do the first one and fragged him before mopping up the UESC. Got a purple repeater out of the 2nd lockdown chest.
>>562908049I really think it could. People have expressed interest in having a more laid back experience after getting fucked round after round. You give them something to do between those matches and maybe they wouldn't just hop off and play something else
>>562910512>You give them something to do between those matchesit's called rook
>>562910703Rooks either fight each other for scraps or are gunned down on sight by teams still hanging around, it's not laid back
>>562910512I would like to see that too and bungie's dismissal of encounter design and map hazards as "it's just sound traps lol" doesn't give me confidence they'll produce anything meaningful. There's the potential for many enjoyable pve, single player and no stakes pvp modes, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Why the fuck is everything so loud in this game the concept of making noise beyond knifing a robot is so fucking oppressive it did not feel like this in Arc at all.
im feeling sleepy tonight, so I will not be playing Marathon and will instead be playing Hunt Showdown for a bit to see how it's doing. gnight runners.
>>562910818if you're not a pussy bitch scared of his own shadow rook is chill as hell
Ready to get my shit blown smoove off, literally never used Snipers before and I fucking suck at sniping.
>>562911792>destroyer coreswhy
>>562908808Doom 2016 is the exception because it redefined Dooms OST and mechanics. All of Marathons terminals and awful puzzles are in the new game, they’re just wrapped up in an extraction grind. A true marathon single player game would be more like Metroid Prime.
>>562912702Forgot to swap them out
>>562910512The game needs dungeons. It needs like, Mario 64s progression. Think of Cryo Archive as Peach’s castle. Once you get to a vault, that’s your Mario Painting to a Marathon dungeon. You then extract into the dungeon and go from there without the hassle of PvP.I think this was always the best way to do it. Even the trailers hinted at this by extracting out of Marsh to get to Cryo via unlocks on the planet. Night Marsh should do this, there if you get to the center of the map, you go and do the Anomaly dungeon with only your trio. Someone send Bungie that.
>>562907903It's a nice gun. Not really what I was expecting it to be, I figured it'd be a slow ramp up dps monster but instead it's kinda just a high weight/ammo scout rifle with a shield
Superior salvage shouldn't be THIS hard to get if you aren't spamming Pinwheel. I
>>562909832bro, i do not understand the repeater. the rate of fire is so slow, the hardline does a better job, i feel.
>>562914542headshots and peeking. It does complete dogshit damage without headshots.
>>562906585Low risk PvE farming does not belong to this game. You are going to have to exfil against the odds with other competitors, no guarantees.They could improve the inventory size and loot to make the successes more rewarding though.
>>562914843>They could improve the inventory size and loot to make the successes more rewarding though.You might be the stupidest nigger in this whole thread.
>>562911792First attempt went fucking abysmally but my second attempt was much better. First guy I killed while he was getting harassed by that one bugged UESC at South Relay, the one that gets stuck on that little vehicle. My next kill was a freekit sin that I baited in with a supply drop. Final kill was a Destroyer that was harassing me in South Relay that was trying to exfil, he almost got away too.
>>562914972What's wrong with that?
>>562914972I mean what was wrong with increasing inventory size?
>Solo fill with talking teammates who have gearBest FPS experience I've had in years, takes me back to Halo days.>Solo fill with free kitters Worst experience I've ever had in, I want to kill myself and restart every time but I can't just quit without losing gear.
>>562912778>A true marathon single player game would be more like Metroid Prime.Sounds great. Why didn't they do that instead of a flaccid live service?They could have still had the trend chasing extraction mode as the multiplayer component.
>>562911792Does the sniper still have a glare while invis?
>>562915324I honestly have no idea.
>>562915137Increasing payouts in the rape lottery only slightly shifts the gain/lose curve thats filtering 20% of the playerbase every week. Who gives a shit if your EV doubles on a <15% extract rate? Your solution is the one bungie went for, covering the outpost and cryo with loot, +charity salvage from VIP grinds and it clearly isn't working.
Considering they can just turn off aspects of the game at their leisure, like removing the "in one run" requirement for those traxus quests, there's theoretically nothing stopping them from disabling pvp by flipping a damage flag off for a PvE mode.
>>562914542Even with some barrels and a scope, the optimal range of Repeater is quite far behind the Hardline. In that sense the Repeater is mostly a mid-range precision rifle, where it's biggest strengths really don't shine all that much until you have gold mod available, at which point it's basically one of the strongest headshot weapons in the game.
>>562915742Why would they do that?
>>562915935Just spitballing since people are guessing what the next possible "experimental game mode" will be now that they've gone through all the maps with duos. It's either going to be>cryo duos>cryo solos>some kind of other mode
>>562916048It's gonna be quads.
Ran a few trios with my buddy, 4/5 games we had teamates who used their mics and weren't half bad. One game we had a free kit subhuman who filled, not gonna talk about it. it was that bad.
Just got the second melee upgrade.
>>562915213having teamates who talk is fucking great, the free kitters are fucking worthless retards who dont even talk. we had a guy rush hauler with a hardline rifle and got downed instantly.
I freekit because I wanna save all my guns, packs and shields so I can lose them all on cryo.
>>562915038>>562915137An increased reward on fucking zero is still fucking zero, and it gives benefits to the poopsockers. It doesn't address the pains of the fuckers dropping at all. It's the kind of retarded self serving "what do I want" suggestions that bungie has been taking almost all along, which has done nothing to stop the slide, and if anything has made it worse. You should unironically uninstall, and set your rig on fire for the good of everyone else.
>>562916147Quads would be wacky, that'd be what 3 or 4 teams instead of 5 or 6?
>>562915656I wonder what the bottom of the curve extract rate looks like. I bet you can pinpoint at which point people are quitting. I am sure there are players with a less than 5 percent extract rate, and I'm betting you are losing at least half the players with a lower than 10 percent extract rate a week.
>>562915278>Why didn't they do thatEdge of Fate is 'metroidvania styled'I don't think you want Bungie to try that here
lfg outpost duo buddy, i don't have a mic
>>562867576I work 11 to 8 and want to get home to play a game that doesn't give me cortisol spike
>>562917534Well what they did try isn't something I wanted at all. Going by the player counts, nobody else wanted it either.What they did has been confirmed by reality as being the wrong thing to have tried. So even if the odds were bad on a different shot, they should have tried the other thing.
>RAPE frame online.
Exfil >>562918484Exfil >>562918484Exfil >>562918484
>>562914843What of the PvE is a reward for successful exfils?