What could've been EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>562302460>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:‘Beyond the Hive’ is out. Patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/beyond-the-hive-free-update-out-now-patch-1-11-0-expeditions/119479Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>Darktide Killers:Space Marine 2Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon BladesJohn Carpenter's Toxic Commandoand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>Its another 1 million gold spent getting the weapon with the dump stat I want.REDS FUCKING WHEN?
True Grit?More like True Shit!
Malice with extra elites
>>562813424Kek, still too accurate.I think this post predicted the combat abilities perfectly based on that datamine leak we got.
Is there any sort of database or mod that has all of the hidden stats for all the weapons?>inb4 gameslanternOnly shows the crap you can already find ingame. I mean shit like base crit chance on weapons, and the actual cleave values (e.g. 18 on tap fire plasma gun)
>>562817146yeah
imagine if they put genestealers in the game and they could grab you from the ceiling and quickly drop back down as you. and your chat turns off, just in case you're one of the 3 people who uses it. so if your team don't notice you've been swapped out they get surprise attacked by the genestealer while you watch.*i start farting with curiosity*
>>562813074>man I sure do love stimms>and the Emperor
>>562820193you gotta protect your turf from competing gangs - scratch that, I meant "heretics"yeah that's the ticket
>>562821352>south american catholic gangsters be like
>>562817545Prove it.
>Bored of everything so maxing out the class penances>Ogryn was maxed from just playing Ogryn and having fun long ago>Vet needed some work regarding being a sneaky invis shit, just grind but simple enough>Arbites was missing just one because again, its fun to play so I did most of it naturally.>Scum just needs a dozen more missions and its done, I literally did all the playstyles automatically.>Haven't touched Zealot in more than 2 years.>Finally getting around to do all the penances.>Only have the backstab/knife throwing sneaky invis stuff left>Its fucking cancerI am just about done just need to kill a couple hundred more with the fire grenade and 18 more backstabs while invis - but I have to say, its not fun. Without a penance I would NOT be playing like this and as soon as I am done I am likely to just delete the build. Playing like this as Vet with the knife was starting to grow on me. The invis was fantastic utility and the rest of the build is fun and intuitive. Zealot is fucking shit by comparison and I do not like playing the book meta. Unfortunately running around with an Eviscerator and slamming into groups is trolling. Psyker is my next least played and I am dreading the grind. Skitarii when?
>>562821464Central American 'catholics' are as Catholic as Mormons. Its literally just a bunch of pagan blood cults with the trappings and appearances of the Latin Church. If half the shit they get up to was ever widely reported people into 40k would recognise them for what they are; Heretical cults full of witches and warlocks that practice blood rites and sacrifice in order to garner favour from spiritual entities that for lack of a better term are demonic in nature and fashion.They are literally chaos cultists.
>>562823510>literally just a bunch of pagan blood cults with the trappings and appearances of the Latin Church.Catholic church isn't much different. It's just germanic, roman and greek pagans in a christian wrapping.
>>562823510>that wasn't real catholicism
>>562825159>Not following Latin Rite>corrupting the doctrine and faith into the literal evil, with the very witch and warlock activity the Church preaches against>Calling them heretics and blasphemers is a self own.You protties and new protties (atheists) do not breed. Mormons will soon outnumber you.
>>562825387>corrupting the doctrine and faith into the literal evilBased on what?
>>562824934it's literally just the Roman Imperial Cult with a different namethey even call themselves the Roman Catholic Church and are governed by a Roman Pontiff
>>562825509But they're monotheistic (with extra steps) now so it's okay.
>>562823184I too feel like a slave to these penancesI keep thinking 'I'm looking forward to getting these done so I can go back to playing this class how I actually prefer'But I also feel obliged to give snipers and netters free shots at me so I can get the 'dodge that shit' pens done too
>>562825509They are just roman pagans, not real christians.
I'm sure i'm not the first person to ask this but if they increased the Havoc level to say, 60, would you guys like or hate having havoc specific weapon upgrades?Like once you reach a certain level/grinded enough you could unlock a 3rd weapon refinement or a blessing.Or maybe just have a way to make 1 stat on a weapon maxed to 100%?I say Havoc exclusive to not fuck with the balance of the "regular" game.
>>562828120I guess that'd be fun.But knowing how the game is set up now, it'll become a game of 6 gorillion crushers vs only 1 gorillion. Also my PC most likely wouldn't be able to handle it. My PC barely keeps up with H40s and even then it drops my fps from 40 to 10-20
>>562828120You mean like weaves?
You will hate me for saying this, but ogryn's skilltree needs another rework, it having 90% of the good shit within the left side removes all build variety.Also we still don't have a proper ranged ogryn build, because the right side has fuck all in terms of damage buffs for ranged besides Reloaded and Ready and the mandatory +10% ranged damage node.Also all of his weapons need to be buffed except pickaxes.
>>562828120That sounds gay as fuck. We need fewer difficulties, not more.
>>562828573>>562828120If they wanted to actually create a hardcore experience and not just a PC melter they'd just remove toughness and replace it with temp HP for H60
>>562829061Ogryn will never be buffed again. Arbites does everything he does but better and brings in more money. They will not step on the toes of Arbites so they never threaten sales of it.
Looking at gameDoes the arbite need the dog? Like do I have to play with the dog or can I just be a dude?
>>562813424>automated bot that feeds all the ammo to the pickpocket hivescumSounds kino as fuck. Please, be true.
>>562833537You can remove the dog and get buffs instead
>>562833537>>562833610
>>562833610>>562833668Thanks, looks sickLuv Dredd, luv shotguns, 'ate dogs
>>562834114Alright, mohammed
>>562834187A dog bit my mother's lips off, which I'm sure you'll agree is a good reason to dislike them
>>562834514Shouldn't have kissed it on the mouth
>>562834624She didn't, the "good, well behaved" dog jumped at herI'm honestly shocked these stinky, violent animals that shit everywhere and make a racket for no reason are tolerated in urban and suburban areas.
>>562828120Okay but imagine linear scaling>-80% ammo from pickups>-60 toughness>-50% HP>3x more hordes with 2x HP>2.5x more elites with 2x HPThis sounds like complete asscancer. Havoc 40 is already on the edge of what could be considered difficult without being completely artificial. Just bumping numbers would indeed be artificial as fuck, and between HP changes and ammo debuffs, shooting anything but a staff or helbore would become borderline non-viable. >but I'm severely retarded and can't do math60% less ammo means you have 40% ammo80% less ammo means you have 20% ammo40% -> 20% means you have half the ammo.-50% health means standing in an AIDS puddle kills the psyker within two seconds or so. It also means poxbursters instagib you unless you have, what, 2 health curios and 1-2 corruption resist?
>>562834864Pitbull?
>>562834864>I'm honestly shocked these stinky, violent animals that shit everywhere and make a racket for no reason are tolerated in urban and suburban areas.Most of that is the owner. I greatly distrust self-proclaimed dog lovers.A lot of dog owners are mentally ill women on menopause who need a child surrogate. I unfortunately know many of that type. They're fucking mental. Consequently they treat their dogs like sapient people and act like they understand what they're saying, which obviously doesn't work. The animals get spoiled, never trained, and thus act like the retarded beasts they are.A contributing factor is obviously the breed, but that in turn also contributes to the owner. Small dogs are so tee hee cute, so they get trained by bad owners to be absolute demons by giving them affection whenever they bark and growl and bite. Other breeds like >>562835492 suggests, shitbulls etc. have been literally bred to be as violent and deadly as possible, it is literally in their very nature. It's no doubt possible to train them to be good dogs, but I wouldn't risk letting a kid near them.That being said, you're biased against dogs because you only hear the bad dogs with bad owners. Well-trained dogs hardly make a noise. The problem is that training a dog is a constant, ongoing thing that requires knowledge, time, and effort, and most people have none of those things yet still irresponsibly get a pet.Anyway, Lone Wolf is an overall downgrade, the dog is genuinely very strong and the LW buffs don't make up for its loss.>but muh blitzYou have my permission to bring shock mines without LW. Yes, it is good.>but muh regenReality check: If you feel like you need more than a handful of shock mines, you need to lower the difficulty.The impact nades are pretty good of course, but still not as good as the dog unfortunately.
>>562835917Owning a labrador for 30 = 0.01% chance of getting bittenOwning a pitbull for 30 years = 70%
>>562836496Owning a Cyber-Mastiff for 30 games = 70% chance of getting a poxburster pushed into you
>almost all dogs become one of two things when old: apathetic or grumpy>yes, even that one
>>562836580I can confirm
>>562813424I am betting that the Skitarii gets 5 class specific weapons and variants on a few select weapons. My suspicion is the following:>Plasma Caliver: the lore on this doesn't match the tabletop stats (it's got better range than the plasma guns the IG get). Meaning, they could release a variant that is slower firing with no damage fall off over distance. And the lore accurate one fires very fast (perhaps can't even charge), but has actual damage drop off so it's not a sniper (which the Skitarii technically wouldn't need). >Arc Rifle - Functionally a Tesla gun. The longer it charges, the more enemies its attack jumps to and staggers (more charging also = better staggering into heavier mass). One variant. >Galvanic Rifle - This is the signature Skitarii weapon, so it's a given. Wheel lock rifle that will probably suck ten dicks because of the low ammo per mag, it doesn't have the range damage of plasma. Think how bad the Head Hunter is, and you got some idea of the issue. One variant. >Radium Carbine - AIDS gun akin to the Scummer's, but more AoE damage in exchnge for fewer stacks with higher direct damage unlike the Needle Pistol. One variant.>Transonic Razor - Two variants again. One that allows you to take two razors (so, basically shivs), and another that is a razor and a chordclaw. Either way, it uses a relic blade mechanic. They could also go for two Blades if they really want for greater range, but the datamine said knife, so I am going razor. Basically Shivs if they had Relic Blade functionality. The reason why Skitarii are getting this at all is because they quite literally have no melee weapons except...>Arc Maul - You know how the Arbites Shock Maul even though the Shock Maul already existed? It's the same thing in every single way just a different name. The Power Sword mention is because they'll add a new mark with the update that they (Vet and Skit) can use, since the Skitarii Marshal is technically modeled with a sheathed power sword.
>>562836607Mine got less annoying, but then it died
>>562835492German Shepard>>562835917I'm biased against dogs because "well-trained" dogs still bite the faces off of human beings, and shit on my lawn. I don't care if some mythical good owner can control them, most people are as you say unable to control their animal that can permanently maim a human being, and will happily take them into public places where children are.And even then, why would I trust a trained dog? It's not human, it is controlled by its savage impulses and not any kind of reason. People don't trust other humans of ethnic or genetic groups all the time, but a human with downs syndrome is INFINITELY less dangerous and unpredictable than a dog. It's impossible for me to respect racists who own dogs, because it's very clear that dogs are more dangerous, louder, and more disgusting than any racial minority.
>>562837370>it's very clear that dogs are more dangerous, louder, and more disgusting than any racial minority.I respectfully disagree and not because I think dogs are harmless, but I agree with most of the rest of your post, though mostly with the caveat that I don't think dogs belong in urban environments, and shouldn't be kept solely as pets.Working dogs that have a purpose in life, are great. Actual proper farm guard dogs that fucking maul wolves and foxes trying to attack livestock, and such.
I'd rather have a servo skull pet irl
>>562834187>'ate dogsNah he loves them, I think he's chinese.
>>562837590>I respectfully disagreethere are 87.3M dogs in Americathere are 4.5M dog bite incidents in America each yearthat's approximately 5281.69 bites per 100,000 dogs. A crime rate of 5281.69The violent crime rate in the US was 359 per 100,000 last year. In Zimbabwe, recent stats have 1,662.6 violent crimes per 100,000 people each year.Dogs are IMMENSELY more violent than any ethnic minority in any country. I will not be taking one with my law and order judge dredd man
>>562829156>We need fewer difficulties, not more.I think the current Havoc levels are fine as they are but just getting plast/diamantine as a reward is really boring.I think we could incentivize people to play more Havoc is it had the "number go up" quality to it.>>562829167I'm not really sure how that would work.HP in Darktide is a relatively useless stat so i agree on the idea but i don't think FatSkunck is competent enough to actually do that.
>>562835270Yea i'm not really sure how they would do higher Havoc levels, but safe to say that it would probably be assbackwards since the devs can't even clear Auric.I imagine that the ideal would just be to give the director more internal currency to send more waves at us but FatShark would probably just raise the difficulty modifiers to an obscene level because they are lazy retards.
>>562836845I doubt they'll make all of these.At best we are getting like 4 weapons.
>>562839117Ok but what does this have to do with darktide?
Now pull up the bite statistic by breedAnd how many of those breeds were bred specifically for cage fighting
>>562839239I listed 6. I picked 5 as the number I suspected they'll give the class because it's in between the Arbites and Scum. Arbites probably got 4 because the dog is a weapon. The Arc Maul could just be a Shock Maul because the naming scheme in the datamine was generic, and that doesn't require dropping anything else I listed. Meaning, everything I listed is on the table. They could even get weirder if they really wanted to. I went with the most conservative list possible.
>>562839281>>It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.Not interested in your pilpul, follow the chain you used to respond to me but pretend you cannot see in the same post.
>>562839641You must have been really so desperate to use that phrase to force it into this conversationGo be a dog fucker somewhere else, cracker
>>562836845shared plasma gun for hive scum soon
>>562839951The Caliver is a distinctly different gun and AdMech only. Vet will never get it.
>>562839996Ok but what does this have to do with darktide?>>562840059It was low hanging fruit. Don't be such a retarded sperg if you don't want me to dab on you
>>562839934>>562840059>>562840165>lose argument to statistically backed evidence he's a retard>false flags to make opposition seem dumberclassic internet racist, unable to deal with evidence against him, preferring feelings to facts and logic
Coop games???
>>562840330>schizo troonoutYep. You lost the argument. Better luck next time!
The next 3 days will be so nice here
>>562840774Take the L, snowflake. Your mouth is his toilet
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>562840773>america out of nowhereYep. You're a turdworlderI knew you sounded like one, but this confirms it
This is why everyone hates dogfuckers btwThey shit their diapers if someone says they don't love their furbabies
>>562841387You clearly have no idea which poster i amIt's crazy to say this, but you aren't smart enough to be arguing with anons on the internet
>>562842036okay, saar
>>562841125This nigga feeds live dogs to his hundreds of pet rats
>>562838718>HP in Darktide is a relatively useless stat so i agree on the idea but i don't think FatSkunck is competent enough to actually do that.I just think toughness as a stat is antithetical to unforgiving difficulty. It wouldn't necessarily be good design in any other difficulty but it woudl for sure be quite hard and unforgiving (which I think should be the point if they ever expand havoc)
Ain't no way this game could function without toughness, there are genuinely way to many gunners.
>>562842860True dat
>>562842860if you're really really good at the game you can for sure make it happen
Literally every single bad design in darktide can be traced back to sprint being added to the game
>>562844357Obese opinion
>>562839951I wouldn't use it, the needler is better.
I like dogs, I named my niggermauler after my old dog. I don't want to own dogs anynore though, I raised my old dog to the day he died and he died in my arms. But if you don't, I wont hold it against you, lexmateAnyways. The Admech class also had a leaked third arm attachment, called a "creator arm", wonder what thats for.
>>562842631I think any kind of healing at all is anthitetical to unforgiving difficultyI don't think any of our weapons should do damage either, that doesn't make the game any harderwhy do we even have talent points? they make the game easieralso why don't we just get booted back to the mourning star when we go down? that's not difficult
>>562844863Proof?
>>562844357That and shooters. As in non-elite, non-special, ubiquitous ranged enemies.
>>562845272Okay I misremembered, It wasnt a "third arm" persay, it was an arm attachment.
>>562846112Hopefully it's more than just for cosmetics
Alright, some of you fuckers have been hyping the helbore for a few threads now. How the fuck do I build this piece of shit to do better work than a laspistol?
>>562846440>How the fuck do I build this piece of shit to do better work than a laspistol?You build a party with at least 1-2 other competent players that keep enemies off your ass so you aren't forced to use the extremely clunky melee, or god for bid, your melee weapon, to keep enemies off your ass, and thus eat into the time you spend firing such a slow switching weapon.Which means, you use it in havoc.The build is practically identical to laspistol builds, but with less pressure to completely critmaxx because the crit blessing handles most of your crit needs. Deadshot is still nice on the heavy mark, but unlike the laspistol, you're not retarded for skipping it.
>>562846704>god for bidI have no idea where that space came from. I should go make coffee.
>>562839629The arc maul will most likely work like a power maul, that's what the datamine leak showed, because that's what the weapon is called within the gamefiles.Which is both incredibly funny AND retarded, because it's completely wrong, because an arc maul IS a shock maul, not a power maul.What's even weirder is that the devs intentionally put this shit wrong way around for arbites and skitarii.The arbites "shockmaul" we have is actually what is known as the dominator maul, look at pic related. And dominator mauls are just the name for the type of power maul arbites use.And in the hype posts they made before release, they said arbites would get "dominator maul and assault shield", aka what's in this image I posted.https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/arbites-class-coming-june-23/108085But for some fucking reason when the DLC releases we get a shock maul with a suppression shield instead.
>>562846440you shoot peopleif they get too close use your bayonet and aim for the face, that will kill every single man sized target and stagger ragers and maybe maulers, i dont remember exactly, but ragers for sure and during mid combo too. if you played knife and know how to dodge its pretty much the same principle hereammo is your dump statuse either IIIa or III or II which ever, just not the slow one, its not ammo efficient and its slowgrab armourbane, then you can shoot everything since it applies max brittleness in like 2 or 3 normal shots, grab weight of fire so you can shoot charged shots fasterthe weapon is ultimately a skill check, you would have an easier time doing literally anything else, with its only really benefit is the fact you get armourbane
>beat rolling steel with only three seconds before impact because hive scum was a retarded nigger who ran off, nobody was doing objective and arbites didn’t drop the ammo packQuick play lobbies are either shit or good no in between
>>562846440you don't lmfao, laspistol clears every single shot weapon in the gamehelbore is a larp weapon
>accidentally spoilered the whole post like a fucking retard>>562849907Helbore does have the advantage of having literally infinite ammo if you build into it. Achieving that ammo efficiency with laspistol requires somewhat of a meme build and being constantly shot at to trigger your dodge crit skill. Helbore can also kill armor reasonably well, which is useful if you bring smokes. Laspistol may be better in most aspects, but not all of them, and is different enough that it matters. It's just that the helbore has no reason to exist outside of havoc, because it's pretty bad if you have nobody watching your back, and pubtards gonna tard.
>>562850145>had to spoiler the entire thing and delete it because being a helbore user is just that shamefuldamn
>>562850647kekI don't use helbore because I don't play vet in havoc. It's extremely painful to use in auric.
why are autoguns so fucking bad
>>562850925They're intended to shoot trash.This isn't viable outside of malice, which is the difficulty you're supposed to play.
>>562850996are they? infantry has crap ammo economy and vigilant is a single shot weapon, they're not even good at that
>>562851118IAG has surprisingly good per-shot damage and is good at spraying shit dead without activating your brain cells. No matter how much gun psykers want to cope about its viability, it's still no longer viable and absolutely mogged by the laspistol.BAG is the trash clearer that is useless at everything else.VAG is uniquely usable because it has surprisingly good damage if you build into crit headshots, and has decent ammo economy. It's just extremely difficult to use because it has some of the most unforgiving hitbox detection, so if your crosshair is off by a pixel, you're missing. If they just buffed the hit detection, I imagine it'd be genuinely good.
Bolter is sex
>>562851435VAG needs a red dot or something, why does the marksman weapon that only does damage with headshots come with iron sights
>>562851662>why does the marksman weapon that only does damage with headshots come with iron sightsBecause fagshart, at one point, had planned to implement a weapon customization system that would've let you customize the sights. They since scrapped that feature, but never updated the corresponding guns that would've been made usable because of it, likely out of some autistic Swedish narcissism.
>>562851662something something call of duty something something the truth has changed
>>562850925vigilant autoguns are good for a marksman's vet. The burst fire marks get more out of headhunter and crit in general (multiple critical bullets per crit, and 2+ stacks of headhunter per trigger pull for a beefy standing crit chance). Vet can also stack enough rending/damage to get crushers to 3-4 bursts. A quite acceptable option for Auric. Vraks infantry is still great damage for vet or scum. Funny on an executioner's vet to turn it into a precision full auto weapon, if a bit ammo hungry.Braced remains mostly a suppression spewer for advancing zealots or emperor forbid melee veterans. Graia if you want to also bullet hose with the braced stance for extra damage ( a fun option for scum if you want a bigger gun though not optimal). Agripinaa for staggering maulers/ragers alongside ranged suppression, makes for a safe run and gun build.
>switch to shriek psyker for h40 cause it basically doubles my damage and shaves 10 mins off the avg match >at least 50% of lobbies are picrelif you need your fucking baby crutch bubble then i dont wanna be in your 40, please keep doing this so i dont end up with retarded shitters
>>562853350
I like the infantry auto, just feels very satisfying to ratatatat away at tics with, and yku can still dump fat numbers into spelite heads when you want to
>>562854927It's very fun using those to keep a streak going on exe stance. It'll be 5 minutes into the mission and you're out of ammo, but you know what they say: Twice as bright...
>>562846440There are 3 options for vet>Plasma gun>DB shotgun>Las pistolBut if you really want to know what sticking your dick in a pencil sharpener feels like...Take the IIIa with armorbane and surgical with carapace and unyielding, dump ammo you have plentyTake whatever you want up until the bottom you should prioritize MF with long range assassin and bring it downIf you have the points trench fighter drill applies to the stab attack and is usually just good to have in any buildDon't get baited by shock trooper, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE SURVIVALIST YOU LITERALLY CANNOT RUN OUT OF AMMO WITH THIS THING
>>562847907Is that a giant megaphone he’s holding?
>>562856681>There are 3 options for vet>meme shotgun over bolterHalf-decent bait, magdumpnigger
>>562844357Need seal companion>>562842915Kek
>>562839334Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww he’s smiling :)
>>562838639Seems like a weird hang up to have over a video game but ok
>>562840384Bend over cutie
>>562857005Yeah dude he is first and foremost a cop. Just because he is some highly trained cop doesn't mean he isn't still just a cop. Muh fuggin ATTENTION BLOCK FODDER.
>>562857005NUNCIO AQUILA OUT
>>562857047Why would you ever run bolter on vet over the plasma gun?Worse ammo economy, worse weakspot multipliers, worse handling and no cleave.
>>562858462Better sustained DPS when the going gets tough because it doesn't have to deal with heat mechanics, hits similar breakpoints and similar ammo economy if you just build the damn thing correctly, cleave is utterly and completely irrelevant if you just use either gun correctly, and in the rare scenarios where magdumping is actually useful, it has unmatched DPS.Also the equip time is a rather minor concern if you don't have to solo hard carry 3 auric shitters, and even if you do, it's not that bad, just a skill point tax that you spend anyway to get the reload speed. Besides, plasma gun's nerfed swap time demands that skill anyway nowadays.
>>562857005Yes.Arbites are just cops and nothing more.
>>562859294They're more like feds aren't they
>>562859862No, Arbites are street cops. The feds are the Inquisition.
>>562854675That’s not a grape…
>>562859023I never even thought of using a ranged weapon as my "oh shit" buttonThat's actually freeing having an option other than shout and shreddersHow do you build it usually?I assume puncture for the first blessing and then pinning fire or shattering impact?
>>562861714No, you build the boltgun into as much crit as you can afford to, and use it as a sniper. It's not as free as the plasma gun, you need crits to hit certain breakpoints. Surgical blessing is non-negotiable, as is Deadshot talent. Unyielding is a good perk because it lets you rape monsters. Carapace can be useful for headshotting plasma gunners, although I forget whether that's effective without Rending Strikes; it also lets you effectively magdump crushers, but that's an absolute emergency situation that you should usually avoid.Because you have Deadshot, you must take either Tunnel Vision on the left keystone, or Target Down! on piss tag. Both work. Marksman's Focus is technically better for sniping, but Focus Target is much more universally applicable and leads to faster boss kills as a team effort. It also has much better pathing talents.Also bring at least 1 stamina curio with Deadshot, else it'll feel horrible. Stamina perks are optional. Keep in mind that not taking a health curio and not taking corruption resistance will make havoc very punishing, but that also eats into your toughness. Don't expect it to be easy.You might have a couple points floating around, that either go into Tactical Reload and/or Volley Adept for reload speed near the top, or, if you're comfortable with the long reload, Reciprocity and/or Duck and Dive in the bottom right for more crit and stamina.Don't sprint too much. Get used to sliding lots, because it costs less stamina. Get used to slow walking a lot. Get used to being the slowest member of the team. Be prepared to struggle with checking corners for ammo pickups because you'll be too slow to keep up if you do. You'll likely be unable to afford any melee investment, so knife is out of the question, you have to use the equally terribly slow power sword because it actually works without investment, unlike most other weapons.
>>562861714>>562862529Oh right, your second blessing.Pinning Fire usually, because it helps you hit some breakpoints. Redirect Fire! in piss tag also helps. I don't remember exactly what enemies survive on a tiny sliver of health though. Might not matter depending on other damage bonuses your team provides.
>>562859294>>562858130exceptionally well armed and trained cops
>>562844952Very funny but toughness gives you 100% damage reduction for a melee hit, your epic little pisstake doesn't mean that's not a very forgiving mechanic. If the goal is increasing difficulty and making H60 unforgiving it would achieve just that
>>562863353With dogs. Attack dogs. That explode.
is it possible to get true legend with randoms?should I host havoc 35s? or should take my chances joining every havoc 40 assignment?
>>562868086>is it possible to get true legend with randoms?True Survivor? Absolutely. I have some rando randomly get it every now and then.>should I hostAbsolutely, yes. You'll need to be extremely selective with what players you accept if you are genuinely trying for True Survivor.>should take my chances joining Absolutely no. I would never trust some random host. I've had some accept havoc babbies that spent most of the mission dead. Technically, someone hosting 40 has less of an incentive to actually try because you cannot derank once you're there.>should I host havoc 35s?There is no appreciable difference between 35-39 and 40. Some players will utterly hallucinate some retarded biased take that 30-39 somehow has different spawn RNG than 40 that causes you to get overrun, which is incorrect. 40s just have more competent higher DPS players which prevents getting overrun. Boss rapetrains still happen in 40, just because you randomly died to one with dogshit players in 37 doesn't mean there's a pattern other than players being bad.
>>562868558best modifiers to look out for?obviously not rotten armor
>>562868558>Some players will utterly hallucinate some retarded biased take that 30-39 somehow has different spawn RNG than 40 that causes you to get overrun, which is incorrect.Nah, I've had that happen.Played few H32s with friends few days ago, with all of us I'd say competent players with 2000 hours on each of us, and the game was just genuinely spamming hordes of armor and bosses right from the mission start one after another, with 0 reprieve in between and despite us sticking together. Obviously we died.Today tried H37 that I hosted myself with the same exact friends, the entire thing just went swimmingly until we went through an airlock and it insta spawned twins and a million scab gunners and plasmagunners. We went the entire game only seeing 1 captain.There is 100% some retarded swedish spaghetti code fuckery in there.We've seen and know that the devs can't code for shit, havoc and its implementation would be no different.
>>562868558>Some players will utterly hallucinate some retarded biased take that 30-39 somehow has different spawn RNG than 40 that causes you to get overrun, which is incorrect.Not that Anon and I'm not trying to start shit but how would you know that? My understanding is that darktide is centrally hosted so you have no access to the code so you can't make conclusions in any direction without a long-term controlled study and even then, it could be a big fluke.
>>562869379>21st This one is just a horde DPS check that is trivialized by a psyker, managed by an ogryn, and still dealt with by a relic blade zealot.>BlightTrivialized by zealot bringing the correct aura you're always supposed to bring. Crate scum can be a viable backup, and is better at countering corruption, but crate SPAM is underwhelming and makes for a worse build overall than just committing to high viscosity stimms, or doing melee.>StimmsRelatively neutral modifier. Just watch out for ragers and captains when they stimm up.>RitualsBy far the easiest modifier, with some caveats. Shriek psykers should be very careful because shriek can aggro them through walls. Some maps (the sand maps in particular) seem to be really weird and can aggro multiple rituals back to back. They check two things of your team:>your knowledge to be patientRituals are pretty slow as long as the entire team is far away. If you aren't in a position to rush and immediately kill it, you take it slow. You usually have enough time to deal with a horde before it becomes a problem. If you need more safety, bring big expensive grenades.>your ability to haul assSelf-explanatory. When you do need to rush, you need to get there as a coherent unit without eating shit. Chorus helps immensely with this by creating a neat corridor of stunned enemies.
Man, Havoc sounds like dogshit ass. I'll just stick to the lower difficulties
ive gone 8 havoc 35+ matches total now where there has only been one down total (not me) it feels like this shit is impossible without a premade. one we made it all the way to the final boss but zealot went down cause he got netted for a few secs
>>562870164>Not that Anon and I'm not trying to start shit but how would you know that?By having played h30-40 every reset, and having kept up my 40 every week, and not falling for the trap of recognizing patterns where there are none.>>562870076>I've had that happen.Having 2000 hours is meaningless. Being good individual players is also a lot less meaningful than you might think. If your team is built to handle generic havoc density, and not the director snorting crack, then you will eat shit when the director inevitably does snort crack. This has nothing to do with the level of the assignment. The director very much will still snort crack even in h40. I've had this happen many times. It just stops being a problem once you build your team for the worst of the worst situations imaginable, and the biggest reason why zealot is genuinely very fucking good.
>>562868086I winged it back when havoc was still relatively new with a bunch of randos who were woefully unprepared; we brutally failed a solid five times in a row without even reaching the final part of the mission and were about to disband when one guy was like "one more bros, we've got this" and man, we did in fact get it (and then went and did a flawless run of the Twins on damnation secret hardmode because we felt the /energy/ flowing).So yeah it's definitely doable, but the stars need to align a little bit. You can greatly increase your odds by hosting yourself though; even if you don't go metafag-hunting, just being able to filter out the worst bottomfeeders is an automatic winrate buff.
Ogryn should get passive ability that lets him stagger a monstrosity melee critical weakspot hit. Add a 8 second cooldown onto this and it'd be great.
>>562874075Wow you get to stagger a monster once per 40 hits with an 8 second cooldown!!??
>>562875391Doesn't sound that OP.Also it'd give ogryn some identity back, Ogryn has been the most fun as a class when it actually feels like ogryn, ie. you can stun a multi ton boss monster just by punching it hare.
>>562875767>you can stun a multi ton boss monster just by punching it hare.You can already do this, it just requires bullrush and impact spam on your build. Shovel punch can stunlock after some setup.
How do we fix the crusher meta
>Hestia is notably nicer to Arbites than other rejects>even asking to touch themI WILL pick Skitarii and Hadron WILL call me her little cogchamp.
>>562878821Widespread nerfing so the game director doesn't have to constantly summon conga lines of them to pose anything resembling a challenge.
>>562879357It's actually related to which voice you pick, Melk fucking hates bully ogryn but loves brawler ogryn
>rival presence in ossuary depths>h4 for some comfy digging>join some 2/3 game with a fourth joining in within seconds>two players keep disconnecting and dying 10+ times>another shitter at lv 100+ is completely useless>both other players don't even bother reconnecting at some point>driller joins, at least a little bit competent>carry hard, solo almost every wave, revive the 100+ six or seven times>finally finish all objectives after possibly an hour, didn't keep track of time>drop and supply pods are called>I get ammo, the 100+ already fucked off, followed by the driller, both drop through an almost vertical tunnel>follow them>driller throws c4 on the wall wile falling and detonates it just when I pass>die>driller runs into some enemies, fights them, dies quickly by jumping around in the tunnel like a retard>100+ shitter keeps running a bit, but dies some 200m from the pod>host closed the sessionWhy do people like this even play these games. Fuck...Also a reminder to myself to be the host.
>>562886286>>h4 for some comfy diggingIt all fell apart right here. Only the biggest retards play haz 4. 5 without the optional difficulty mods is comfier because it filters all the speds.
>>562886286>driller throws c4 on the wall wile falling and detonates it just when I passbased, would that I could engineer such kinography
>his weapon doesnt have a 61% rollngmiAlso which of these do you guys like the most? Achlys is the OG and I assume it might still be best, but are the higher damage variants better now?
>>562887512>his weapon has two 79.6% rollsget to rerolling
>>562887512>61% memeYour 80s are rounding errors, as the other anon said.>are the higher damage variants better now?Irrelevant, the equip speed is still terrible, and the best PBB node is still burn, so high fire rate has them beat anyway.
>anon makes joke>turboautismo takes it seriously and gets mad over it
Sad that forever winter is dyingit had a lot of potential
>>562890346>make a retarded joke>nobody laughs>y-you're mad!! you're so angry right now!!lol
>>562890902Yeah you seem to be absolutely seething actually, no wonder these threads are so dead these days with just the same faggots regurgitating the same tired old havoc 40 hypermeta arguments.
>>562879357Hestia asks everyone to let her touch them though >>562884753This is the first I’m hearing of this honestly
>>562890526I wanted to invade peoples game as one of those cool mechs.In reality, I just wanted to play Evolve again.
>>562891390mad
>>562890526I don’t know about “a lot” but the idea was fairly solid, just got really unlucky with shitty devs
>>562892092>>562891390>>562890902>>562890346Embarrassing behavior
>>562890346It's impossible to joke casually around retarded browngroidsThey don't have the language skills or the intellect to understand what's going on
>>562891390its just velcrospider, hes seething cause he got bitch slapped like a little bitch
>the obsessed schizo is back, and samefagging no less
>>562893273Try replying a 3rd time and go even harder on the schizophrenia. That will surely convince everyone that you aren't retarded and brown
>This joke I didn't get? It wasn't funny actually.
>>562891390You ass raped, anus gaped, red graped and great aped that filthy streetshitter
>>562894713Careful, now. He's really sensitive and you might make him cry
>>562891390>just the same faggots regurgitating the same tired old havoc 40 hypermeta arguments.Oh I get it now. You're mad because YWNBATS. Classic.
>>562893949take ur meds brown eslgroid
>>562895095Lol. I knew that would trigger you
damn darktide must really be bad huh
>>562895041No, it was just pointing out the obvious that the people who are incapable of brushing off a simple joke without feeling the compulsive need to correct it with their UHM ACHTUALLY are going to be the same people who do nothing all day except sit in this thread and argue about the most pointless havoc 40 shit known to man. Maybe if you tried to be less autistic sometimes people would be more willing to engage with the thread. Or maybe you like it this way? I don't know, and I don't really care either way.
>>562895274No we just have a small handful of clinically retarded, severely mentally ill users that use coopg as their personal toilet.
>>562895352>writes out his entire life storyLooks like I hit the nail on the head.DECLINED.
>>562895095Actually, this clinically retarded, severely mentally ill user >>562895095 is my personal toilet*sits on his face and pushes out a long log of shit straight down his throat*
>>562895491Sure, whatever helps you cope.
>>562895352You make a good point. Damn shame that the people who need to hear this are too retarded to accept it
Havoc completely mindbroke all the Dunning-Krugroids in this general OVER A YEAR AGO and we still have to deal with the fallout to this day.
>>562896438The fact that good players dominate havocs with meme builds make the shitters who live and die by the meta feel insecure
>>562897072But I thought people never invited anyone with a meme build
>>562897239They don't invite YOU with a meme buildCan't say i blame them
>>562897072Fact: Lineup matters more than build>>562897239Meme builds yes, useless dogshit hallmarks of the user being completely fucking clueless as to what is expected of them in h40, no.
>>562897678Ah so you just made things up, sounds about right
>>562898195This guy already schooled you on the facts >>562897813
>>562898261Like I said, you made things up, because people like you judge "meme builds" on whether the player does well or not, not what the build actually is
>>562898432So you are literally admitting that you are too retarded to realize what is a meme build and what is just plain shitt? Gotcha
>>562898432NTA but I regularly host h40 and I accept what most anons here would consider to be "meme builds" because I want to see what the vision is.I will not accept some retard who thinks it's appropriate to apply to rotten armor with frag grenades on vet. I will not accept some retard who thinks it's appropriate to apply to AIDS puddles without purity aura on zealot.If your build is logically consistent, and has the bare fucking minimum of what is expected, I don't care. Sure, I'll accept the heavy sword scum or falchion vet, why not? But as soon as I see picrel on a vet, I know the user has two brain cells fighting for third place.
heh yeah darktide won heh yeah
>>562898813Knife vets on sewer slide watch
>ACK
Crazy how the expedition flop won't teach fatshit anything because swedegroids are too arrogant and retarded to accept when they make mistakes
>>562898632Any non-meta build that a player does well with = meme buildAny non-meta build that a player doesn't do well with = shit buildThey could be the same build, but a different player, and your answer would change accordingly to their performance. >n-no I just wouldnt invite-Right, so meme builds aren't actually meme builds, they're just Meta-adjacent or things you know will perform well. Making your entire argument moot, like I knew it was from the beginning.
>>562899720So you're just gonna double down on being wrong and retarded?Fine, suit yourself. I can't force you to have the right opinions
>>562899893>no retort>immediately returns to ad hominem You must be really subhuman huh. I guess that should be evident given how you're always in here obsessively spewing your mentally retarded drivel
>>562899995You got schooled but you still got an FIf you can't accept the obvious fact that you lost then there is nothing more i can do for you>you're always in here obsessively spewing your mentally retarded drivelHoo boy... We've got a fullblown schizo troonout on our hands
>>562900403Yeah as we all know saying "You lost and I won actually" is the hallmark of someone who knows they were in the right lmao. >buzzwords I feel bad for you honestly, but have a last pity (You) before I head off. You can sit here and seethe about builds for the rest of the night.
>>562900748>You lost and I won actuallySo the fact that i pointed this obviously true fact makes the fact automatically untrue? Do you have any idea how insane you sound right now?>have a last pity (You)You were always allowed to stop replying, in fact, i'd encourage anyone who's as wrong and retarded as you to stop posting all together>You can sit here and seethe about builds for the rest of the night.Why is it important for you to think that i'm angry? I'm a grown man who's just not interested in humoring people like you who refuse to stop being stupid and having wrong opinions
Izzat status?
>>562901687Don't know, but i know where my jizzatIt's all over your fucking face
Now that the dust has settledWho came up with expeditions and should he have both or just one of his testicles ripped off?
Just received word from GW. Gene stealer cult faction was cut to work on expeditions, hope this helps!
>Let's add Chaos Wastes>except make it gay and boring>also make it only one mapwhew darktide saved bros
What was the argument about this time
>>562903435Some retard made a joke that fell flat and he got mad then started sperging out about havoc
>>562902568Why do people keep calling it chaos wastes? It shares like absolutely nothing with chaos wastes CW>slay the spire style run with a map where you pick nodes, if you die you start at first node>maps are linear >you gain roguelike perks and levels have roguelike modifiers >you can only pick your talents and which gray weapons to start with, rest must be found and built up to >no grind to unlock anything, no metaprogression (other than keeping like 100 leftover coins if you win) Expeditions>just one mission you can pick out of 6>maps are open>no perks and no roguelike modifiers >you enter with your full build >you grind to unlock different missionsLike where are the similarities? I guess you can sort of compare salvage to pilgrim's coins? They're entirely different things though really.
>>562903643>Why do people keep calling it chaos wastes?It's just the usual obsessed ratfag shitstirring because he hates darktide for some autistic reason.
>>562903435First some guy made a joke that was too nuanced for anyone with an IQ below 85 and then some gynomastic spastic started venting his frustration over always getting declined for havocs at random people
Only 10 more ranks till i can call the game shit.
qrd on the NIGHTMARE modpack for l4d2? There are multiple versions like Nightmare: Redux and they look pretty fun despite many things ive heard about yoru being a schizo
>>562903643>>562903770everyone said it was chaos wastesinstead what we got was another useless game mode that will be completely abandoned like mortis trialsbut do not worry lil piggies, fatshark will make another game mode for you play for a week and then abandon
>>562906920>everyone said it was chaos wastesI'm sure (You) did, schizo anon.
>>562906920>piggiesGame modes are free
No low level havoc missions on weekdays I guess
>>562907124yep there's the revisionism >>562907149only piggies zealously defend fatshark's boneheaded decisions
>>562907396>liking and playing a thing = defending itCan you retarded turdworlder leave my civilized internet with your dumbfuck tribalism, please?
>>562907527Project harder
>>562907527It's so obvious that he's a turd worlder. It oozes through every single one of the posts that he types up with his brown, shit-stained fingersIt's so obvious that he has no idea what's going but he's still desperatately tries to get our attention
Ugh. I shouldn't have eaten all those beansOpen up for desert, >>562895095
>>562908149>desert
>>562908291I'm serving up a bone dry log of shit
weird fetish stuff happening ITT
>>562909410You still got some shit in the corner of your mouth
>>562909558Sorry Rajeep but I'm not interested in your scat roleplay
>>562908629truly a fatshark employee
>>562909774Because only the real deal can satisfy you
Guess it's sleeping time in the brown parts of the world
>>562893273qrd?
>>562908629You're serving up another set of maps for the Expedition mode? I hope Fatshark is paying you.
>>562914036TL;DR: He posted a scoreboard of schizo anon here (likely the poster you quoted) who is still so mad, to this day, that he has melties over it.Guy who posted scoreboards on the regular, had an entire meme forced by presumably one guy spamming the same image over and over, then apparently some anon got mad that he was in a screenshot with a low number, and then that anon started doxxing scoreboard guy, followed by a very, autistically, obsessively long chain of obsessive naming and hallucinating that everyone is [person he doesn't like] because of severe, untreated mental illness.If you ever see his name mentioned, assume it's the schizo obsessive anon having another melty. There's more lore to this but it's frankly too pathetic to even remember.
>>562914036You just replied to the resident schizoFrom what i can tell based on his own posts>resident schizo keeps harassing this velcro guy whenever he posts>they play a match together by chance and resident schizo posts about it>velcro guy dunks on him for being bad and posts the scoreboard as proof>resident schizo absolutely fucking loses his mind>starts posting his profile, his reviews for some reason, starts accusing anyone who offends him of being him over a year laterI have seen him sperg out for entire days because someone who he thinks is velcro was trolling him. Post for long enough and the schizo retard will eventually also accuse you of being him
>>562915954>>562915696lmaoi've stayed away for a bit over a year now but i am somehow glad to see that things are still the same
>>562916825Just wait. The schizo is probably going to shit up the next 2 or 3 threads after he sees these posts
*hallucinates my archnemesis into appearing in the thread*WHUOOOOAAUUUGH!!!! HE'S HERE!!!
>>562876091It shouldn't require a set up.
>>562879357>>Hestia is notably nicer to Arbites than other rejects>>even asking to touch themNot really, I've had that "Can I touch you?" voiceline when I played my bodyguard ogryn.How she treats your character is either entirely random or more depends on the personality you chose.
>>562903643>>562903770People called this shit "chaos wastes" because originally the gamemode was leaked by a datamine which had a term "Expeditions" in the game code.This got people's gears turning and speculating because back in VT2, Chaos Wastes was referred to as within the game code as "Expeditions".Only fatshark to give us this dogshit.
>>562908149>>562895641>>562895156>3 replies cause your browngroid retard ESL ass got bitch slapped lollmao eventake the L shitskin
>>562908149>>562895641>>562895156*rips open your neck and shits down your throat*ahhh that felt good
Resident schizo woke up and now he's going to have the tranny meltdown of the century
>>562919170i can’t believe I laughed as hard at this as I did
Havoc was a mistake.
Losing runs should reverse difficulty unlock progress the same way you lose havoc rank, even after you've unlocked the difficulty.
Who's worse, the resident schizo or Fatshark's vacations?
do armored hounds even have a spawn sound, they keep showing up and only find out after i shot it that one spawned, i dont even think theyre using the howl
>>562924709I've never noticed a spawn noise, I don't think I've even seen one tackle a player
>>562924709I don't think they have one. I think they just spawn in with the packmaster and no noise is made..
>>562924820no, they can spawn without the packmaster
>>562924854Guess I never noticed then. My bad.
>>562925287thats what im saying, they spawn and i dont even notice until after they show up in the kill feed
>>562924854Can confirm, more than once now I've heard a funny *clonk* noise while trying to bonk one of the 8 gorillion hounds jumping round and noticed it's actually got the little mask on. Not noticed any different noises so far though. This is on 'normal' missions too (as in, back indoors).
>>562884753Speaking of Melk.My experience was that while leveling the normal rejects, he hates your guts, but when you hit lvl 30 he starts talking to you with respect.This doesn't happen with the Hivescum.And it didn't happen to my Zealot either, I've been wondering for ages if this is just me or if Melk just hates Zealots.
>>562926919There's respect there because plot-wise you're an official part of the warband when you hit trust level 30 and the traitor's found. He's still snarky to you after you hit 30 though, but he's like that with everyone. Hestia likes everyone, rejects, warband members, arbies, scum, she's devout like that.
>>562927668Yeah but he's still talking to my lvl 30 Zealot like they're a low level shitterIts weird
>>562927785Of anyone on the ship, the zealot is the most likely to kill him with a huge power gap between the zealot and the arbitrator as the next likely.
there is nothing to do goodjob fatshark
>>562930086what would you like to do?
>>562930271Play new maps, fight new enemies, use new weapons.
>>562932947what kinda new enemies?I'd like to fight Nids on a Space Hulk, but that's real unlikely
>>562930271New classes, new weapons, new maps (normal ones). Give the classes some exotic new weaponry, and to hell with GW's autism.
>>562933240A genestealer cult, shit like the Kelermorphs can be turned into specialists.
>>562908149pro tipwhen it comes to dessert, you always want secondsthus you can remember to put a second S for when you want to spell dessert rather than desert
angry
>>562927668>hestia to my loose cannon veteran "You will not be missed."Yeah dude, she likes me.
>>562939586"Like" doesn't mean she wants you to live. Life is the emperor's currency, spend it well.
>>562939687>I would pray for you, IF I thought it would make a differenceYeah bro. We're work married.
>>562939817What part of grimdark don't you get? She likes you because you're going to go die for the emperor, that's it.
>>562939884I don't think so, bud.
Skitarii toilet protocol activatedBeep boop beep
>>562942849psykerbros... not like this... we were supposed to be the toilet class...
I uninstalled Darktide like 3 days after the Expedition release because it was a buggy mess, game started running like shit, and no serious hotfix.Any updates? also news for the next content drop?
>>562943396Expeditions killed the game. If Skitarii cannot save it truly expect the game to close down by the end of the year.
>>562943396Supposedly they've fixed some of the stability issues for Expeditions mode, I say supposedly because I only played that shit twice around 3 weeks ago and haven't goneback.>new updatesJust hotfixes fixing some talents, nothing more.>new contentNo news of any kind. At best we are gonna get announcement of an announcement for the upcoming summer update in like 30th of April, maybe.
I genuinely do think this is going to be the year that will be indicative of what we can expect from Darktide for the rest of its lifespan. They’ve already done all the console ports, there should be nothing holding them up at this point. If Skitarii is a dud that barely plays any different from any other existing class, that’s what you can expect from future classes. If Expeditions is the only new game mode we get this year, that’s the level of quality and innovation you can expect to see from future game modes. Death knell is a bit exaggerative, but this will be the year that gets rid of any ambiguity of a potential future more competent Fatshark and Darktide and will make it clear where we stand exactly.
>>562943569>Expeditions killed the game.It 100% did that. Before the update DT had about 5-6k players, when the Expeditions came it only rose to around 15k players, and within 13 days, around March 30th the numbers had already dropped back to 6k.And now 22 days later since the update we have like 5k players on steam.
>>562943569>Expeditions killed the game.Bravo Fatshark, you finally did it.
>>562942849>Skitussy unit! My biological components require relief. Assume toilet protocol and await further instruction.
*farts* Nigger :(
>>562944112>will be indicative of what we can expect from Darktide for the rest of its lifespanWe already know that after hive scum and expeditions
Darktide was a 1st stage of cancer when Arbeetus released.
Time to play that game again.3 changes to any game mode to "fix" Darktide.>bring the Packmaster to regular games, forcing them to only appear in expeditions is dumb at this point>give us something to spend tech remnants on, maybe for the time being let us use them to craft curios>balance weapons around auric crushers instead of malice maulers
They killed Darktide just before the annnouncement of Fatshark's next game at Warhammer Skull the 30th AprilVermintide III: The Age of Sigmar.Powered by Unreal5...or 4, doesn't matter (haha see Reddit? we made YOUR joke!)Fully customizable characters. The Ubersreik 5 are just NPC in the HUB now (The Mourningstar Fortress *wink*
Skibbidi Team?Get straight up savage, no cap.Now, tho.
>>562927785Melk is a snob who loves the social hierarchy. If your character background is a 'knows their place' type, like my Professional and I think my Savant, for instance, he'll be almost civil. Noblesse oblige, and all that. If your character is less amenable (my Fanatic, for instance), you're literally the groxshit on his shoes.>>562939586I find Hestia sort of similar, but she is generally more forgiving. It's religious morality that really drives her. Your Loose Cannon, for instance, has no shame about their morals or behaviour, so she's not very impressed by you. My nice, polite and educated savant likewise is filth worthy only of the flame. By contrast, my Fanatic zealot? Hestia thinks the sun shines out of her arse. That said, I like Hestia as a handler. It might be my Catholic schooling showing itself, but she's so uplifting and inspiring, trying to get us to live up to what Him-on-Earth's finest CAN be.
>>562944112>They’ve already done all the console ports, there should be nothing holding them up at this point.Actually its worse than that.Fatshark finished the PS5 port, the final console port, in 2024 december during the Grim Protocols update which introduced Havoc. So they are already "unimpeded" by anything else.As for other classes after Skittle, I think next classes they'll just be different flavors of veteran, zealot and maybe some ogryn for some spice, going forward.At least they could add some damn variety by reusing the ogryn POV and make another "tall" class. Fuck it, make it a longshank abhuman or an eldar, even if the gameplay would be similiar to just veteran + zealot, it'd AT THE LEAST be more interesting in terms of aesthetic.It'd also be hell of a lot more interesting than a yet another human class.
>>562945189>that last linethey would 100% do that
>>562938198I really want Genestealers, but I'm not sure you could insert them into regular missions.They would have to be hostile to everyone or it wouldn't make sense.Imagine just two sets of cultists, one of Nurgle and one of Nids, just standing around having a chat.BY THE FOUR ARMED EMPEROR I WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN!
>>562927785It's not weird, you might be part of the warband, but you're still just a lowly acolyte. An acolyte who is a former criminal, also the inquisition hasn't "forgiven" your crimes still. Inquisition NEVER forgets, how the Imperium and even Inquisition works is that they will just use those crimes you committed as an excuse to force you to do something, or just execute you.Remember it is called "the most cruel and bloody regime imaginable", that phrase is there for a reason.We're still basically just penal legion soldiers, but we answer directly to the inquisition now, which isn't much of an upgrade you think it is.Like why did you think your life is gonna get better when you join the organization whose mottos might as well be "Innocence proves nothing." and "The End justifies the means."
>>562945189I'm screencapping this...just in case...
>>562945189>Fully customizable characters. The Ubersreik 5 are just NPC in the HUB now (The Mourningstar Fortress *wink*Kill yourself.
>>562946109Fair point, but they have implied about enemies fighting enemies stuff since Arbites released. Since the cyber-mastiff forced them to do (god forbid) some code shit about NPCs fighting other NPCs. So it is possible if GSC gets added, we might be able to see 2 cults fighting one another.They could also do the more lame thing (also more likely), they'll just randomly replace in missions the Nurgle cult units with genestealer cult units and just keep the Scabs as shared. Point being that GSC are very known and commonly infiltrate guard regiments, Moebian 6th being no different. To imply that some of the Moebians who even went to Nox Alpha might've already secretly been part of the genestealer cult.So you get 2 types of mission.1 set with Admonition + Moebians.1 set with GSC + Moebians.Also they could do more of an outlandish thing where they'll make that the genestealer cult on Atoma is also partially a chaos cult and worship Nurgle. This is a thing that sometimes happens within the lore, some genestealer cults come into contact with Chaos and become corrupted by it.And they could use this as a justification as to why this particular genestealer cult is helping the Cult of Admonition and Moebians.
>>562947391It would just be crushers creaming any jeansstealers they come across
>genestealer packs get boxed in by 8 bulwarks while 8 crushers pound them to paste
>>562947769Damn, they are adding the sex update to Darktide with genestealers?
>>562944112>>562944645>>562945524i hate to agree but it’s true. ive sort of made my peace with this game never living up to what it could have really been, but it still makes me sad because the tide games are so effective and i’d hate to see them pass away into nothingness because of incompetence.
It's funny to me how the guardsmen flak armor chests all have the nib on the back that I know is only really there to make it easy to line up bits like the flamer tank and vox-caster when assembling the minis they're based on
>>562951237That's how they attach the back cosmetics
>>562944519She wouldn’t do that… would she…?
I've yet to play havoc and I never will. It feels too similar to cata3/weaves trannyism, which I never touched either.
>>562953627>I'm bad at the game and have some twisted sense of elitism over it so I need to tell everybodyok
>>562953718>y-you're le badI have nothing to prove. Enjoy your dogshit mode.
>>562954139I accept your concession.
>>562953627you're right it's just a terrible experience with the game resorting to nerfing you
>>562953627You aren't missing much. It's just wall of metal after wall of metal.The entire gamemode is basically Fatshark hearing all the negative feedback about the game.>crusher spam>elite spam>specialist enemy spam>most weapons being shitAnd Fatshark looking all of that and just saying "lets make it worse".
>>562906920>everyone said it was chaos wastesOk but the actual delivered product has nothing to do with it. People speculated and they were wrong, there's no need to keep calling it that. It's like when people speculated admech but we got hive scum instead. Do we call hive scum "a gay and boring version of admech" as a result? No because it's got nothing to do with it
>>562957218you could work for them
>>562957218>you don't need to be meanFuck the developers, they know what the playerbase wants, they just intentionally ignore what it says.Also hive scum was dogshit too, practically nobody wanted it, everyone wanted actually cool shit like skitarii or sisters, instead of a fucking crack addict.
>>562959191for the cop I can sorta understand with the idea of the hive and the fact there was simultaneous arbites releases across games and the TT. For the average chicago dweller there was no excuses, remember when the jewtubers ran dmg control
>>562959191it's not about being mean it's about being fucking retarded. Hive scum isn't "a gay version of admech" just because people wanted admech instead>>562958970I think you should brother, you too have that swedish narcissist "I can never be wrong" shit about you
>>562960314it not being the gay version of admech doesnt mean that people wanted it either, nobody wanted hivescum
I dont think they should add Eldar but imagining one interacting with an Ogryn is funny>"Apologize, beast!">"For whaaat?">"For calling me mon...mon...mon'k-">"Whats da big deal? You people say it allll da time!">"What do you mean "you people"?!
>>562955595I wonder if that's possibly another rationale behind expeditions? Experimenting with alternative environments, objectives and gameplay elements, trying to see if something lands better than just endless hordes or All The Carapace?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL_9a1vUk4oUh oh, hopesisters? Even the shills are no longer staying positive..
>>562962357An eldar character would be way too sovlful with the banter we could get. So it will never happen
>>562963161give me the QRD am not giving your groomer a view
>>562962913Have you played expeditions? The only thing that's vaguely different is that the mode spams a retarded amount of bulwarks at you ON TOP OF spamming armored elites if you're on a flak seed.The actual gameplay is different in the worst way. If you want to efficiently 100% the run, half your team doesn't even engage the enemies. You just run past everything and force objectives while invisible, or stunlock everything as arbitrator and do objectives that way. The meta is unironically to just buy a nuke, kite everything into one spot, and blow them up so you can do the objective. Yes, even in auric.At least they have the map randomization system in the code now, so MAYBE (don't get your copes up) we can expect them to do randomized tiles in a more traditional map, or possibly even update existing maps with randomized objectives or something to provide at least some variety. But fagshart are too lazy and Swedish so it's never gonna happen.
I'm gonna say itExpeditions has less viable (fun) builds for the classes than Havoc does
>>562964173Yes, played it, was ok for a bit as something different, some positives, some flaws, then back to normal. Was just that the post I replied to set a little wheel spinning in my head, that's all; maybe with a wee bit of hopium greasing the axle, I'll admit. It's not a hopeless case and I'm assuming (and yes I know the old saying) that they've thrown it out with something more than:We have to do somethingThis is somethingLet's do it.
>>562965798>fuckass suit who doesn't play video games: you have to do something>pubg and helldivers are big, we need an extraction mode>you are now making an extraction mode>swiggers deliver the minimum viable product>it's shit>everyone knows it's shit>the only reason anyone even plays it anymore after week 1 is for the penance grindI would never, ever give fagshart the benefit of the doubt.
>>562962357>>562963384I wouldn't mind eldar as a class, the dialogue you could get with them and the other classes would be pretty interesting. But that's just me because I a big nerd for worldbuilding ish stuff.Especially ogryn and eldar conversations could be interesting but also funny.
>>562960953did I at any point imply otherwise retard? I swear you faggots can take >expeditions wasn't meant to be chaos wastes, people are just connecting the word expeditionto mean I actually love darktide expeditions. Kill yourself you retarded nigger man
>>562962913Doubt it.Also if they wanted to experiment with new environments, objectives and gameplay shit, they could've just added those into the regular base gamemode too.Like they could've just made a new more traditional map, but have it be set outside of the Hive, and then put the new auspex game in it.Hell, they could've also spiced it up a bit by making the tradiotional map more open and made it so that there's like "open world" sections in a mission that looks like a desert shanty town with chest and resources, and you need to find your way through to it to progress towards the mission objective.Also they could've put the new auspex mini-game into pre-existing missions too as a way to spice it up minorly.Also like the other anon said, the gameplay/enemy situation didn't really change.It's still just stupid amount of elite spam coming at you constantly. And it is even more like havoc that it spawns both captains AND twins on top of monstrosities.But for some reason the new ogryn packmaster doesn't get to spawn in the regular missions, it's still exclusive and locked to Expeditions.
>>562967429>it spawns both captains AND twinsNever seen twins spawn in expeditions and I'm like 45% of the way through my title grind autism.>the new ogryn packmaster doesn't get to spawn in the regular missionsThe new ogryn packmaster is too easy, it wouldn't even survive regular missions. The only reason it does anything is because the expedition meta is to split up, so you now have to solo a boss with a bunch of dogs, which is "difficult" by darktide standards because retards never learned to push dogs or block bosses. It only takes 2 players to fucking rape it.
>>562944149>numbers are same as before update 3 weeks after it >exact same pattern as last 3 years>clearly the game is 2 weeks from dying
>>562890526Forever Winter is when Idea's Guy tries to make a game without any technical ability.
>>562970409Yeah, it's about 6k now, within 2 weeks it will have dropped to 4k if not less, the numbers are trending downwards currently. Which is not a good thing Fagshart.Also>release one of the only 4 major updates coming this year >only bumps their numbers from 5-6k to 15k (compared to arbites that netted 43k and hive scum which got 34k)>within in less than 2 weeks the numbers have dropped to around 5-6k again and are trending downwardsThe player count dropped by almost 66%, that's insanely bad for an update.
>>562970971True…>>562970409Weird fucking picture
>>562962357>>562963384>>562966376Eldar would be great from a banter perspective for sure. The zealot and psyker lines would probably be some highlights too. Also Morrow.
>>562975742And this last patch was probably the one that adds the most content. The next patch will probably be a DLC class, but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see any new missions this year.
FUCK A NEW AMERICA FUCK THIS MISSION SO FUCKING HARD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAThe first 3 times I played I was able to get to the signal jammer. Now I've played it 20 times AND I CAN'T EVEN GET TO THE SIGNAL JAMMER ANY MORE.Things that have gotten me killed:-Forgetting to reload-Friendly fire-Allies not reacting to enemies right in front of them-Enemies not reacting to flashbangs-Enemies killing me from 100% health in one burst-Enemies getting behind the squad and shooting past all four of them and hitting me-Enemies flashbanging me with no audible warning -5 enemies swarming at once-Getting spooked when an enemy jumpscares me and twitching off target (x3 times)WHY AM I GETTING WORSE. WHY THE FUCK DO I GET WORSE AT THINGS WHEN I DO IT MORE AND WATCH VIDEO GUIDES JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
>>562981649slow the smooth to be the fast..
>>562981649I got my fill of Ready or Not during the beta. Honestly, I don't enjoy the "muh high difficulty realism" shooters where every enemy has an insta-kill gun 20 pounds of armour while you have a pea shooter and fold like paper. Love having a giant stainless steel shield that doesn't actually block any bullets. And then there's the stupid scoring system that tells you that you need to speedrun the whole thing, miss zero shots, don't shoot too many bullets (lmao), and don't get hit either (lmaooooooo).My friends fucking love it though and would play it 24/7 if left alone. They're not even good, they just die over and over again and would talk about how much they're so excited to play it again tomorrow. I don't get it.
>>562985136yeah that's right, you don't get it civvie. So stay in your lane!
>>562985136problemsolving enjoyers vs vibe + power fantasy enjoyer
Shits bad when you lose the resident anime posters.
>>562989012
How do I not be a burden to my team as Veteran?
>>562994038Shoot gunnersTake field improvShoot gunnersTake ammo auraShoot gunners
>>562945189this is just darktide but vermintide
For all the shit Havoc (rightly) gets once you start playing it all non H40 games feel trivial and unstimulating. Aurics and maelstrom are always either everything dies within 30 seconds or you're basically playing a solo game not to mention that Havoc games are the only time you'll ever experience any amount of satisfying teamwork in your COOP game. Falling asleep or clutching in aurics (just for your team to leave and only leave you with bots anyway) will never beat saving a team in a desperate situation with book, keeping your team safe with taunt, shooting all the gunners whilst your team deals with everything else or clearing out entire hordes with psyker whilst your team focuses on killing a boss/captain.
>>562997001YeaIf only they cared to properly balance aurics so I don't have to suffer through the dogshit havoc changes like -toughness, no toughness grace period and the trash modifiers turning all enemies into RGB lightshows. Unfortunately every time they try people start whining about "noooo dont nerf anything just buff other weapons instead" like yes let's turn aurics even more piss easy
>>562997001that's why I'm never touching havox. I don't want to get addicted to it like you havocheads.
>>562823184Psyker penances are extremely straightforward, if a bit grindy. The most awful one is getting the knock off 10 enemies from a ledge penance. You would think it'd be easy with shriekn but it's aoe pushback is tiny compared to veteran shout or arbites shock.
>>562997001Friend is leveling his first character and is awestruck by how big the hordes are in heresyI find it funny
>>562997001I just don't find health sponge difficulty very fun so I got bored of havoc very quickly. Auric is a good place, not having to worry about which weapon I'm using is nice
>>562997001It's like how after you start smoking crack, everything else in life doesn't cut it anymore
I can imagine there will be only 3-4 more DLC updates. Admech, SoB and ratling class, GSC maps gamemode. I don't see how they can add Eldar who have been teased or other sanctioned mutants. Voidborn is already a character homeworld option and does jack shit. Ratling can re-use Bardin short FOV and SoB is the 2nd most requested class that can be easily implemented.
darktide will be dead and buried by the time SoB comes out
>>562966695you literally did, you dumb retard, youre the making that argument, everyone said "nobody wanted hivescum", youre the one making it about some schizo insult that literally nobody said instead
What other weapon has secret animations besides a knife?
>>562989357True…….>>562989357LoreGODS is this real????
So are we ever gonna be able to unlock the black pants from expeditions?
>>563001865Most autoguns, the AIDS gun, possibly a handful of others that I don't remember.You can sprint cancel the reload animation (and some individual steps, like on the plasma gun) of every weapon. The sprint cancel timing window for autoguns and needler are very tight, but possible. If you successfully sprint cancel the current reload, your next reload is almost instant, you just slap the gun around a little. I don't remember whether switching weapons affects it, but I do know that it is 100% consistent. If you get the first cancel, your second reload is near instant.Most grenades have an inspect animation where you spin the pin around your finger. Ogryn shakes his box.
>>563001775I'm afraid you're just fucking illiterate
>>563001775>Expeditions is just a bad version of CW! >expeditions and CW are nothing alike>OMG WHY ARE U DEFENDING EXPEDITIONS! >no I'm saying they're nothing alike, it's like saying hive scum is a worse version of admech >WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING HIVE SCUMit must truly suck having this kind of brain
>>563001775Holy fucking shit you're retarded
>>562944112I'm sure Darktide 2 will save us.
>>562944112>I genuinely do think this is going to be the year that will be indicative of what we can expect from Darktide for the rest of its lifespan. They’ve already done all the console ports, there should be nothing holding them up at this point. This has been the case for a while now though. They've been able to fix darktide for the past 2 years if they were going to
>>563005034Its pretty funny seeing all these people shit on Expeditions because its not like CWSpoilers: No one ever said it was Darktides CWEveryone just gas lighting themselves over it, just stop man
>>562997001It's the AI director or lack of thereof. In Havoc you always get shit spawned on you and if you don't deal with it it won't get any easier. It's fair, in a way, and thus poses a challenge.Normal gamemodes try to make a "fun and engaging gameplay" for you by changing the intensity depending on how well you are doing but this just leads to the game feeling artificial and boring for good players and surprising bad ones with sudden difficulty spikes because it was decided they have been doing too well.
>>563006585>Spoilers: No one ever said it was Darktides CWSure but people kind of expected it at some point, because CW was great and it seems logical that if Fatshark did it once, they would do it again. It's literally perfect blueprint for an addition that would be extremely hard to actually fuck up.Before Expeditions people thought Mortis Trials would be Darktide's CW because it makes infinitely more sense to make a CW mode for Darktide than whatever Fatshark has been doing for over 3 years.
>>563006585Especially because there are thousands of legitimate reasons to shit on expeditions, it's annoying reading "wow it's like bad CW" over and over when the problems are much more uniquely shit than that >"extraction" mode >there is no reason to ever extract early >the only resource to "extract" with is tech remnants>they do nothing except a different mission on the same map with some other modifier like the incrtedibly riveting "hunting grounds" modifier we know and love>no reward for finishing the whole thing and unlocking all nodes>this is literally it, you grind to unlock hunting grounds on the same map>nothing to buy with tech remnants>no new mechanics introduced to darktide as a whole, like expanding weapon crafting to include trinkets >no new weapons, nothing>the expeditions themselves are just 1 of 2 big desert maps that have copypasted auspex scanner shit in them every fucking time here, have some concept art that was shown that just confirms it would've been better if they made these things normal missions instead
People thought expeditions were going to be like chaos wastes because those were also called expeditions and many players wanted it in darktideDon't know why retards are struggling with this fact
>>563007613Assuming makes an ass out of me and you
>>563007481Could've had a rickety rafters mission that has moving parts or something. And pic related, could've had a mission where you ride a minecartNot like I believe fatshark is capable of doing cool unique mission mechanics anymore. Remember in VT2 where you >align elven ruin shit >move battering ram >escort minecarts>kill story bosses>capture areas>SURVIVE (but it spawns more than a trickle of poxwalkers) It's like this is all lost tech and all the devs at fatshark have been replaced by somalian niggers. Now all they can do is >change this auspex slightly>perfect, a totally new event! ship it!
>>563007613nobody is denying that, the original thing I took offense with and probably started this argument with was this post >>562902568Fatshark never planned to add chaos wastes with expeditions, the naming is just a coincidenceI don't know why people are taking this as a defense of Fatshark. If anything it shows how retarded they are if people will literally in good faith believe they will do the 1 thing everyone wants, and they refuse to fucking deliver and make a dogshit mode instead AND THEN NAME IT AFTER THE ONE THING PEOPLE WANT
>>563007782>It's like this is all lost tech and all the devs at fatshark have been replaced by somalian niggers.Well... they ARE Swedish.
>>563007782>oh boy, a train mission, this is bound to be cool and unique! >no enemies shooting from outside the train trying to keep up>no train cars uncoupling or anyhting dynamic like that >you're just on the static train which has a moving skybox >you do a reskinned auspex event>then you carry the batteries like in 8 other missions>then you do a reskinned auspex event again>then a reskinned captain boss (again) appears It's actually crazy how people aren't calling this shit out more
>>563007770I wouldn't say i assumed it, but i did hope for it>>563007971That guy is just a retard
>>563007782>It's like this is all lost tech and all the devs at fatshark have been replaced by somalian niggers.This has been the story of hundreds of video game companies at this point. People treat a company name as a mark of quality when the employees there change - not even get fired, people just sometimes change jobs because of unrelated reasons, and a loss of one competent programmer can utterly change what is and isn't possible anymore. It's enteriely possible Fatshark is a shadow of former self with people gone to greener pastures at Narrowhead or simply laid off because half the stuff is now outsourced to Indians and Chinese(the fucking shop).It's actually weird video games industry isn't more like any other artistic expression industry with how people attach meaning to names of movie directors or actors or musicians and so on. It used to actually sort of happen in 90s (Sid Meier) but the only guy that it still does is I think Kojima. People unironically pay more attention to soundtrack composers like Kyd.
>>563007782Chaos wastes specifically were made by a different studio that no longer exists
>>563009394>the employees there change - not even get fired, people just sometimes change jobs because of unrelated reasons, and a loss of one competent programmer can utterly change what is and isn't possible anymore.On the one hand, yeah, I can absolutely see this being the case. On the other hand, this problem can be largely addressed by employing a clanker wrangler. As long as the code base is there, it is LITERALLY and UNIRONICALLY as simple as just tasking the clanker to analyze or reverse engineer those systems and then regurgitate whatever it found. Possibly even refactor the code. It doesn't take a genius to vibe code, just a bit of familiarity with the model in question, extensive debug output, and live testing to make sure it didn't slip in any hallucinations. There is no reason why the loss of a competent programmer should result in lost tech with currentyear clankers doing 70% of the work for you.
uncs be yappin
>>563009923>bro just have AI hallucinate the game for youI genuinely dread the reality where you thought this was a valid argument to make and actually shared it with others.
>>563009964ong no cap sorry for yappin too many words lil bro take dis
>>563010167>trawling through spaghetti code for hours when you could just ask a clanker to give you all the relevant files in the span of 3 minutesDo (You) bang rocks together to make fire?
>using abominable intelligence in the year of our Emperor
>>563010316This attitude is exactly why you're losing competent people because they can be replaced by an AI that's being tard wrangled by an Indian, but then it turns out the Indian also needs tard wrangling and the result is unuseable, but it's fine because at the quarterly investors meeting the clueless tech illiterate boomers don't ask you why everything has gone to shit ever since you started using AI, they ask you why you aren't using more of it.
>>563010681>This attitude is exactly why you're losing competent people because they can be replaced by an AI that's being tard wrangled by an Indian,No. Competent coders are important and at times invaluable, depending on the code infrastructure. But if the old heads leave, and your code is pure spaghetti, it's physically impossible to replace them. When a single function's pipeline is splintered into 20 different referential files, all with nonsensical names because these dumb swiggers have no coherent internal naming scheme and NEVER EVEN ONCE name anything by how it's localized so the internal names for, for example, skills, may as well be random, it is impossible to expect even a competent coder to make sense of this dogshit. Several years of technical debt, rushed hotfixes performed by literal janitors, terrible, nonexistent or otherwise retarded version control, loss of backups, and whatever else the fuck fagshart is doing that causes their game to be such a fucking mess, have evidently resulted in something that's nigh impossible to make sense of for a human.If the old head left the studio for greener pastures, and a replacement is physically impossible, what the fuck else are you supposed to do? Even a supposedly competent dev that lives up to your, or my, arbitrary standards, would be retarded not to use AI to at least search through the code and help them make sense of what is going on.What are you, some xitter nigger that gets all of his opinions from mentally ill luddite artists or something?
>>563010681Pretty much every competent programmer upplements human work with AI
>>563010681Stupid australian faggot.
No memes, genuinely is this games future fucked?
>>563012137No. It has been this way from the very beginning. Fagshart is just that incompetent. It'll continue sputtering along on life support for another couple years I'm sure. It's very grimdark, in a sense.
>>563012137I think so
>>563012137It's already fucked. >every new gimmick mode further fractures the dwindling playerbase>event rewards are literal jpgs instead of anything meaningful>fatshark is now addicted to adding a DLC class and then abandoning it to squeeze the paypigs dryRepeat until dedgame
>>563011327And this had led to a significant increase in quality of software, right? Every new thing and every new update is so much better than what we had before.>>563012042It puts the poo in the loo
>>563012717Let's see Sven Fatshark's software quality.
>>563012717Terrible argument. You are not smart enough to discuss this issueThe problem is incompetent programmers, not competent programmers using AI
>>563012698>>fatshark is now addicted to adding a DLC class and then abandoning it to squeeze the paypigs dryThis is still the funniest shit to me. Wasn't the deal with the monetization that cosmetics are so jewish with a shitty FOMO store so that they can deliver free updates?
>>563013393Can't print infinite FOMO store money if you can't maintain player numbers by fumbling update after update.
*raises mechadendrite*I want many more new classes and i never want to see fatshark try to make a new game mode
>>563009964Trvth>>563010594Even though it’s not his year yet
>>563002026thank you for the double response haha don't see that every day
Why can't they just give aquilas for every event on top of the dumb frames so people have an actual reason to come back>noooooo *hissssssss* de goyim do not deserve scrapsok
>>563014354>noooooo *hissssssss* de goyim do not deserve scrapsthis but unironically
The coolest thing about expeditions is the valkyrie support. Proof of concept wise anyway, gameplay wise it's retarded it just perma follows you and shoots everything
>>563015785Dogs just perma follow you and bites everything
>>563017212teammate just follows you and shoots everything
>>563018529I wish...
>>562998598I'm debating buying the game on sale for my brothers and the shenanigans that will happen for the same reaons.
>>563014354No one fucking knows. I think GW forced them to do it or some retard at fatshark figured out how to do it so it was no longer lost-tech to them and they're afraid to do it more often. Or in their magnificent Swede style don't know if giving free premium currency still lets them get taxed for it like it's bought by players.
>>563019076Do it
we will literally never ever get new weapons for the original 4 classes that are worth a damn. i want to play this game so goddamn bad but everything fucking sucks man
>>563020878buy new paywalled class and get excited for next paywalled class
>>563020878I would oink for a weapons packI'd even oink for the premium version
>>563021016inevitably sure but they cant keep adding classes forever. we're already at 6+1, i doubt we'll get past 10 at the absolute maximum but more than likely we're going to stop at 8 classes>>563021123same. i am willing to pay class money for 4 new weapon families
>>563021206Dual wield weapon pack when!?
>>563019259It's complicated. One of them doesn't like shooters because he's just awful at it, I think he would enjoy the melee. He's kind of a spaz though. The other brother is the baby, he's cool with whatever but I know a lot of his friends are only kind of interested in the game and Fatshark's current track record is bad enough I don't want to buy them a game that might die in a year or two
>>563022216>I don't want to buy them a game that might die in a year or twoMight still very well be worth it if you get dozens of hours of gaming together
>>563022446You are not wrong.
>>563020878Sorry, only new game modes no one wants. I wish they would just stick to new regular maps, weapons, classes, enemies, and factions. If they wanted to add a new mode chaos wastes 2 would have been great but at this point they’ve wasted enough dev time as is
If the admech class just releases with a 7th maul weapon and another failchion then im gonna crash the fuck out
Nanidafuq? Why is the alpha or earliest concept shown in steam when I search Darktide?
>>563025524*shrugs*Nopony knows
>>563025904The description is some crappy scam that will never leave alpha and the people involved steal what they can.
>>563026041Isn't that just darktide?
>>563026041So... Darktide?
