Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith./ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicleshttps://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c>Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs>DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfchttps://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk>PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is>Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFwhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTGQ>Dissidia Duellum Final Fantasyhttps://youtu.be/dgTNtB9mysshttps://youtu.be/L-UITSfBZpc>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis>>>/vmg/1916155>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrevious thread: >>562569354
Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
As long as no one makes negative remarks about Yoshida, FFXIV, or FFXVI, we will be fine.
Shut up. Shut the FUCK up.
Add Tifa, Mustaido, or Cid to DDFF... right now!
>>562865995BASED FIRST POST
As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Matsuno, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, E33, Duellum, Kastaclsym, or Sebbywebz we will be fine.As long as no one makes any positive or neutral remarks about XIV, XVI, Yoshida, CS3, Spirits Within, or Sakaguchi we will be fine.Take care to not agree with anyone's /ffg/ approved positive or negative opinions too much. Agreeing with someone can come off as disingenuous, but only when certain posts or certain ideas are agreed with, not others. Also remember that if you disobey any of the rules, this automatically puts you into the opposing category of posters. There are no exceptions. These are the rules.
>>562866201Spam
What did we learn from last thread?
>>562865435Need spankings.
>>562866292Duellum is way more fun than FFXVI.
>>562866502Not a high bar.
>>562866292The only thing to learn from last thread is that any negative or neutral remarks about Duellum will not be tolerated. Things like this are important to remember, because /ffg/ would be a much more pleasant place if everyone just followed its official rules.
>>562866292The Ba7ry test worked. Perhaps too well.
I'm trying to get into Final Fantasy and my autism is triggering hard with what versions of 1-6 to playObviously the pixel remaster but i don't know if to play the 3D remakes of 3 and 4, they look so beautiful and i like that it gives 3 more story and actual characters.But at same time, Dissidia looks cool and it has cool designs for each character so i'll use mods to have those designs in each game, and there's the protagonist of FF3 being some blond red boy instead of the ugly white haired femboy from the 3D remake which makes me think better to play the FF3 Pixel Remaster without that white haired femboy.Also why Bartz looks so hideous in Dissidia, ugh Amano art is literally all HRT shit i hate it. So FF3 remake or remaster?
>>562868128Dunno for 3, but the 3D Remake of IV is good enough that you can play it after playing the Pixel Remaster if you really liked it. It feels like a Director's Cute, or a Complete Edition.
>>562868128I think the Pixel Remaster of III is the best way to play it, but I think the 3D version of IV is the best way to play it. Though I will say, the 3D version is a lot slower to play through, so if you just want to play the game then maybe do the Pixel Remaster, and if you end up liking it you can to a 3D playthrough, but then that's asking a lot and you might never actually do a 3D playthrough which is totally understandable.
>Biggest ultra whale in the game>Has every UR in the game maxed>Even they don't have perfect job medals
>>562868775I don't mind about difficulty though i read some things that seem shitty for both, like how Onion knight was reduced to a side quest in the 3D remake.And if i play a 3D remake of 4 then i'll have to play 3D remake of 3! I can't just pick one remake and reject the other that's called hypocrisy
>>562869065>And if i play a 3D remake of 4 then i'll have to play 3D remake of 3! I can't just pick one remake and reject the other that's called hypocrisyI just don't think the 3D Remake of III is good. I don't really think anything positive gets added by giving each party member a canon name and personality, and the Pixel Remaster is the only one that lets you switch jobs without being penalized in some way.
>>562869485> Blonde hairGreencels lost.
My wife Eiko is incredibly cute!
>>562869993Why are you married to a 9 years old?
>>562869993That is a very cute Eiko.
>>562869485Very cool, I can't believe I hadn't seen this before.
You can't imagine the sheer disgust i feel when looking at this design.
Ignore the potato quality. Idk if I'm gonna be able to get any higher given the stats that some of these teams have.
>>562869485Meanwhile in the west they spoiled the biggest moments in the gameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDxikKSDtZg
Final Fantasy Builders when?
>>562868128>ugly white-haired femboyHoly poor taste Batman.Anyways, DS 3 is more interesting from a gameplay perspective because it rebalances the jobs, but it's much harder and you kind of have to play by its rules in that you're expected to assign characters to particular roles and then give them jobs based on those roles. The remake has some more plot and characterizations but it mostly just serves to tighten up the narrative a little bit unless you look up all the unused text strings in the DS version's code. I personally prefer the remake, but the PR is definitely easier and more convenient to play.>there's the protagonist of FF3 being some blond red boyOnion Knight is functionally an OC. He's based on the Onion Knights from the original/PR, but they didn't really have personality to begin with. Luneth is vaguely based on the character that shows up on the boxart (whose outfit Onion Knight usually has an alt).
>>562868128>>562872345He looks best in his freelancer outfit, it was my favorite
>>562872345Amano is a massive homo.
Too many crystals
>>562881131I still can't believe I got banned for "off-topic" one time because I posted a fat Tifa.
>>562881518Stop ban evading, shitposter.
>>562881131>I eat, Buttz. It's what I do.
>>562881131Krile... Take it easy, alright...
>>562880024I wish FF16 was as fun as Rebirth. It just took itself too seriously.
>>562882370The problem is you can't control characters like Jill and Cid when they easily could have let you. You have guest NPCs + the dog for pretty much the whole game yet it's solo control. They could have even made cool combo moves with the eikon powers.
>>562882370Gay sex is pretty fun, thoughbeit.
>>562881131>Republican Krile
>>562883627
Second pityCurrently I have>Spellbook +2>Ninjitsu +2>Fuga +1>RenewThey've already acknowledged how hard it is to get character abilities so I hope we eventually get a UR pick ticket in the not too distant future so I can actually play the new character.
>>562885574You desired to make a shitpost image and then post it when the described behavior wasn't even occurring. You are a special sort of touch starved, completely unlikable attention whore. You should have at least saved the debut of this for when it was happening, but you just couldn't help yourself.
>>562885574You struck a nerve, the fatherless immediately felt called out.
What an organic trio of posts.
>>562885832Yeah, lol. He's so thin-skinned, what a miserable looser.
>>562868912What even are ideal medals? Do the same type of medal even stack?
>>562886008Mine was organic.
>>562869993The best
>>562886089https://dissidia.dev/medals?f=r3You can't stack same type medals, but you want them to be 3* and matching color for the bonus.Hunter is probably the best medal, it's a 5.5% damage increase to bosses, after that either BLM/SAM/Time Mage for the extra attack boost and cooldown reduction
>>562887098spank
Well /vg/?
>>562887481I'm going to fuck her.
>>562887098We don't lust for children here.
>>562887106When I use three 3 star monks with different colors in the builder on that site the stats go up. Are you sure you can't stack the same type of medal or is the character builder messed up?
Is there a way to change your character's name in FFXI, or do I need to do the server transfer bit to do it?
I hate Zidane so much. He looks so fucking gross and game protagonists should be WARRIORS not THIEVES.
>>562888338If it's anything like every MMO I know, check the shop.
>>562888629They only recently added the ability to change your character's race, but it doesn't come with a name change. There's no real store in a sense like XIV or WoW.
>>562888715That is odd. Every MMO I tried had an ingame shop. Rappelz, Fly For Fun, Tera Online, Escape From Elven Rape City, Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy XII...
>>562881518Serve your ban
>>562888573I think it's the body proportions.
>>562881131>Krile if she went to US instead of Tokyo
Can someone please explain to me the state of the Final Fantasy 7 remake?So there's part 1... for 60 usd, and part 2... for 60 usd... and it's nto even finished yet, there might be a part 3 and 4. So in total it's a 300 USD remake...?And not just that but there's also a psp FF 7 prequel... that they also made a remake of in the same engine? So need to add up those 60 usd too?
>>562892390There's FF VII Remake, who is Part 1, and FFVII Rebirth, who is Part 2.
>>562892390Each part has been expanded to the size of a full-length JRPG. I recommend playing the GOAT video game franchise Trails instead.
>>562892390There's Part 1 (covers Midgar) and Part 2 (covers everything up to Aerith dying). Part 3 is expected to cover the endgame.Crisis Core Reunion, to my understanding, is mostly a remaster rather than a large-scale remake. It makes some gameplay tweaks but is overall the same game on PSP whereas the remake series is a complete reimagining/potential sequel.
>>562892765>expandedpadded with filler
>>562892390Play the original if you haven't yet. Play the remaked games after for curiosity only.
>>562865850Krile is only 14.
>>562897185Out of 10!
Is the XI Anon here? I have a question.
>>562892390You will buy and play nothing but Final Fantasy VII for the rest of your life and you will like it and I will defend Square Enix for doing so.
>>56289718514 is a prime number.
>>562866292can’t play one role without the other two teammates jobbing or not doing their job. if I had ultimate shield I would be able to be both support and attacker. don’t has ace either
Which final fantasy planet is flat?
One true love and kissu hug! Canon and cute couple!
>>562888573He monkey
>>562899501So is this just a pvp game like all the others?
OddsI play ff2Evens I play ff1
>>562898479I'm probably not "XI Anon" but I have played XI.
>>562902486I remember an Anon trying to explain something about sheathing/unsheathing weapons, and I felt something similar in XII, I wanted to ask if it was the same thing or not.
>>562900891pvp except there’s a boss that you have to kill first but boss hp isn’t shared between the two teams and is separate instead. also has /pol/ posting as well
>>562902629I am the person who complained about the retarded sheathing and unsheathing of weapons in XI, and yes, XII is basically just a better, more streamlined, actually playable version of XI. Oh another thing that's annoying in XI. There are many skills that will just fucking lock you in place, like you can't do anything at all while the skill is happening. For example, the Dancer skill that makes you run faster. It lasts like 2 minutes or something, I forget, and you spend I swear to got like 10 seconds of it animation locked into the casting animation and you cannot move at all... but you can download a cheaty plugin that makes it so you aren't animation locked, and honestly that is the only fucking way that you can possibly play XI. You have to download actual cheaty shit to make the game even remotely playable.
>>562902991...ha. I mean, I started XII and it's got some issues, but I found it tolerable. But here you tell me that XI was even worse, I can see how it'd grind someone's patience.
I just started playing FFV and I main Krile on Dissidia.
>>562903216If XI played like XII, I probably wouldn't complain about XI's systems. XII is basically just the offline, streamlined, actually playable version of XI. Or, the roguelike browser version of XI is also playable. But real XI does not play anything like that. Even if you download a million mods, it still wont play as smoothly as the browser roguelike version of XI.
>>562903372I literally cannot imagine how bad XI must be....I'll have to try it. Just out of morbid curiosity.
>>562903441I mean, yeah. I really wanted to play XI, and even still it was a chore. The free trial is only like 2 weeks or something, and you can convert it to the real game. I recommend playing the free trial for a few days before buying the game, because I seriously spent like I don't even know, maybe like 3-5 days just figuring out what the fuck the game does, because god damn.
>>562903590Yeah, I get what you mean. It's "old school", but in the worst way possible.
>adhd zoomer retard has a mental breakdown playing old game
>>562904410many such cases
>>562904410I'm not a zoomer and I don't have ADHD. XI might just be the single most outdated and archaic game in existence. You'd have to find an obscure text-based adventure where it only accepts certain cryptic text commands in order to advance in order to find something more archaic than XI. The original Dragon Quest (/Dragon Warrior) is less archaic than XI is. There is no reason for XI to be so unfriendly to the player either, because you can still play PSO in 2026 and everything is intuitive and makes sense, and that game came out on Dreamcast in 2000/2001.
Squall > Cloud, prove me wrong
>>562904723You're wasting your time with the fatherless, it's just trolling and you're giving it what it wants.
>>562865850Was thinking about playing the final fantasy 7 remake as my first ff game. Is that a good starting point? I don't know anything, other than tifa and cloud. I'm strictly on PC, so apparently I can't start with final fantasy x. And from what I have heard, x-2 is shit. I do have my brothers final fantasy 13 lying somewhere as well
>Tifas tits nonstop jiggling during the sit-up minigameI got so distracted I only beat her opponent by 1
>>562905821>Is that a good starting point?Almost every FF game is a standalone title. Yea, just start playing 7r and dip into the classics if you like the series.
>>562904723>The original Dragon Quest (/Dragon Warrior) is less archaic than XI isPlease be bait
>>562907626It's not bait. This retarded and annoying context menu is more friendly to the play than anything in XI.
>>562904723
>>562904723You really stirred the hornets' nest.
3300 season points for level 1 to 40.12 Rainbow Crystals a day is 300 points, 11 days to max season pass.24 Gold Crystals a day is 312 points, 10.5 days to max season pass96 Blue Crystals a day is 576 points, 6 days to max season pass.180 Grey Crystals a day is 180 points, whales will fear your +5 Fire.The point requirements are also very backloaded. 2000 points is level 30 and 39+40 is something like 400 points on its own.
Is Foebreaker the worst possible job? I feel like I'm doing fuck all.>very random damage, sometimes I deal 0 dmg several times in a row>no skills>no magic>just attack
Time for one of the most sovlful part of a video game in decades.
Tifa but she gets fat
SoP may have shit dialogue, but the gameplay and effort still has my respect
>>562910569ENTERTHE BREAKER
>>562917132Definitely way better than FFXVI. No question.
Yozora for Duellum
>>562899501You are a support do your job first
>>562918636You don't pay my sub
>>562920401>10.5kshow rank
>>562918636>use aoe to one shot mobs for bravery >use shining wave to launch enemy up and to scare them away from boss or to attempt to kill enemy for bravery>use ramza on one of your two allies >heal teammates when hp low or halfway >use ss whe both teammates are at max bravery for chain combo or help do extra damage against enemies his shield sucks and I only use it if teammates are bursting and I’m far away and opponent are nearby my teammates. if I’m close to opponent just kill or distract them
When does this game start getting hard? These are the only characters I've taken into ranked just btw.
>>562924658diamond and omega
I didn't know they put Rydia in this game.
Aerisu!
>>562926273Not Final Fantasy related
>>562926273You struck a nerve. The fatherless got pissed at better games like usual.
>>562927519Not Final Fantasy related
I miss when FF had non-human party members.
>>562866292That Final Fantasy XIII is the best video game in existence.
>>562928541FF7 has Red 13, Cait Sith and Barrett.
>>562930761He looks stupid
>>562926273One time I jacked off to that game 11 times in one day and my dick hurt for days.
Type0 girls when?
>>562937116Never
next expansion will save jobs
>>562937116I only played Type-0 because of OO.
>>562917335I mean in XII, not in SoP.
>>562928541Who the fuck is Cayenne
I'M GONNA...BUST!
>>562943071ok c00mer
>>562943071the lighting really does make so many things in these games look like lazily thrown together assets in a 15 year old budget release.
>>562943758I just don't know why hair appears grainy. I'm playing in 4K, max settings, w/ DLAA at a steady 120fps. Also the shadows in this game is really low quality for whatever reason. Whatever I guess, really no surprise that a final fantasy port is dogshit.
>>562943758Still better than XIII, sadly. What an humiliating embarassment for SE that scam was, no wonder they're never remaking it.
>>562944637what a low bar. but I guess we have to take our victories where we can.
>>562945026I mean...>>562943758>lighting really does make so many things in these games look like lazily thrown together assets...yup. Lightning ruins things.
>>562931426I'm sorry he did that to you
>>562926273What game?
Now that Snoys have burned all their bridges with Square for not buying the exclusive games it's safe to say the Nintendo era of FF is coming back.
>>562937116Long time from now. The next character releases are>Firion+Blathier>Rikku+Clive>Sephiroth>Tidus>Celes>Noctis>KefkaWe don't know exactly how quick they're going to be added but reasonable guesses based on producer comments and #COMPASS that put that as the rest of 2026.
>>562947725>the Nintendo era of FF is coming back.dark times upon is, indeed>b-b-b-bUT I WANT LE SPRITE POKEMON LOOKING ASS FF!!
>>562947836>NoctisBoo
>>562947725You pissed off the fatherless, oddly enough.
>>562947725I care more about winning sales arguments than about the quality of the games themselves so I'm fine with this.
>>562947836>The first full team is FF6Lame
>>562947836noctis is already in compass should be easy to convert him to ddff
>>562927339It has a significantly more robust Job (and Race) system than FFV. >>562945906Monster Girl Quest Paradox.
>>562947725>Sony vs Nintendo fanboyismAs long as the games are still releasing on PC (they have been, will be, and are) I don't think anyone should give a shit about what the console kiddies are doing. Honestly I don't even think Nintendo is going to help that much with sales if they feel the need to run "(#ad)" campaigns on Twitter telling everyone how "sold out everywhere" Remake was (this amounted to ~30k copies in Japan, no idea US numbers)
>>562952148What kind of monster is she? A snake person?
>>562952803It's pretty lame, especially given today's social climate. She's basically a feminist tentacle summoner / body mod. The men in her village abused the women to the point that the average life expectancy of women was ~20 years old while the men lived to be 50+, and this was her village's culture, and the King wouldn't help them because this was deemed to just be their culture or some shit and they didn't want to interfere with it, so she learned tentacle magic and taught it to the women in the village and eventually all the women killed all the men in an (allegedly) purely retaliatory manner, and this was done slowly over time, not all at once as a massacre. However, she claims she can hear the voices of the oppressed and she wants to spread knowledge of tentacle magic to all the other oppressed women of the world. There is another girl who also looks kinda like Rydia but not nearly as much, and although "Rydia" helped her by teacher her tentacle magic and allowing her to kill her abusers, she doesn't want the tentacle magic to be spread worldwide, because she realizes that this would most likely just flip the balance of power so that the women of the world are the abusers and the men are the abused.
What should Square do for the 25th anniversary of FFX on July 19th?
>>562954197That's a tranny.
>>562954319That's not Lightning, though...
>>562884480I see you are like me.I have like 120 pulls on that banner but never saw Gachirin. If I were a Iroha player I would be so fucking mad right now but I'm an OK player and got a good amount of his URs so all is fine.
The dream team of Horii, Sakaguchi, Nomura, Kitase and Uematsu once made Chrono Trigger I wish they'd make another game before half of them are dead.
>>562956719>>>>>>>NomuraWas not and never will be part of a "Dream Team"He's actually the very first person I'd exclude from a proposed "Dream Team"
>>562947725No. They've explicitly stated that they're done with exclusives and that PC will be the lead platform, scaled down to each console.
>>562930761BWAHAHAHAHA
>>562956924He's the top dog at Square right now with the highest reviewed game in 20 years
>>562957149I used to argue in favor of the exclusivity deals so hard. It just came naturally. When SE are under attack, I automatically go into defence. So when others said the exclusivity deals were bad, I said they were good, and "proved" it with facts, citing SEs own financial earnings reports. I guess I was wrong, but I can admit that as a grown and secure man. The "doomers" (as I liked to call them) were right all along.
>>562957881Nomura is everything that's wrong with VIIR and with Square Enix.
>>562957881Nomura barely had anything to do with either 7R games, especially Rebirth. Younger directors and designers made these games. Nojima's the autist who can't write a simple story.
Is it ok to call out >>562957918 for falseflagging or im gonna get annoyed by some another J dicksucker retard defender
>>562947836Celes can't. She's to hot to be walking the streets of Tokyo.
>>562957918>The "doomers" (as I liked to call them) were right all along.I do still think it's hilariously ironic that VIIR's biggest defender(s) are inadvertently, in retrospect, its biggest shitposters because all of their defenses ended up being wrong and all of the so-called "doomers" were simply correct and maybe it was the "doomers" who were proven to be the true fans all along.
>>562956924The Nomura seethe is nice, you people hate that he's responsible for so much you like
>>562958124
>>562958232oh i see, his dicksucker retard is here
>>562958281Nomura is responsible for everything that is wrong with modern Final Fantasy and with Square Enix. He is not responsible for anything besides Kingdom Hearts. His character designs can stay. They're mostly fine even if he just keeps making "the same" characters over and over again. That's really the issue with Nomura - he was a character designer who acquired tenure after the Square Enix merger and was subsequently given too much agency or power without anyone above him keeping his retardation in check.
>>562958445Look, little guy, I just know that I got called a doomer secondary who didn't even play Remake when I said that obviously the Whispers were going to come back in Rebirth because there's zero chance that they invented a plot device and went out of their way to demonstrate its power only for it to disappear after the first of three games. I'm not sucking anyone's dick, I'm describing my personal experience interacting with 4chan's VIIRgins.
>>562958781Carry on, little man. No comments from here, i bet /ffg/ loves this fake ass shit.
>>562958892>this fake ass shitThat's the thing. It's not fake. I wish it was, but it's not. I was only proven to be correct and vindicated by Rebirth, and all of the VIIRgins (or, probably just one guy) who argued for years in defense of the Remake were the ones who were proven to be the doomer shitposters, since they called people doomer secondaries who didn't play or understand Remake, when in actuality the people they said that to were simply correct, while the defenders are the ones who have continually been proven incorrect. This even still continues today. Remember the whole "organic Masamune" thing? VIIR's biggest defenders are continually proven to inadvertently be VIIR's biggest shitposters by virtue of defending it from things that turn out to simply be true.
>>562959260>VIIR's biggest defendersstop writing this cringe shit holy fuck
>>562959313You're right. I probably should say "VIIR's biggest defender", as in singular, because the most likely case is that it's only one guy.
>>562947836>Post launch characters are 3 women and 8 dudesDo these people not know how to make money on gacha?
7R derangement syndrome in effect.
>>562959431OO was too generous to make any money (even though it still made decent enough money until they implemented the paid gem cap in JP that made all the spenders quit), but it had males and it did fine. Most Final Fantasy characters are male, I think. That's just how it goes. It's not like your typical post-Genshin gacha game where the men have bulge jiggle physics and an ass bigger than all the girls, while the girls have censored uniboob, spats, and a flat ass. People are just gonna roll for who is good or for which characters they already like. They aren't inventing homos out of thin air.
>>562959712No one even said anything bad about 7R though. The only comment has been about how VIIR's biggest defender has historically been wrong about every single thing, defending the game from "doomers" who were simply proven to be correct. Unless you're saying that people arguing in favor of console exclusivity while also arguing against Whispers returning in Rebirth or the Masamune having an organic quality to it are the shitposters who are deranged and who hate VIIR. In which case, I'd agree with you; they do continue to be wrong about literally everything despite trying their damndest to defend it.
>>562960148You're melting down, buddy. 7R is known to cause this here, hence the term 7R derangement syndrome.
>>562960383I'm not melting down about anything. I was only commenting on how hilariously ironic it is that VIIR's defense force has actually, inadvertently, been proven to be even bigger shitposters than the "doomers" they were/are defending the game from.
>>562960532Exactly. You were melting down in relation to 7R, in response to something that had nothing to do with that. Very strange that a video game can cause this in people.
I really liked 16 even if the pacing was bad in the last half of the game and a lot of the main story quests and optional side character stories should have been swapped and the ending should have been different
Enough about 7R!Discuss 8R! The game opens with R=U sequence so those slow people that didn't know can now understand the plot. More emphasis will be on R=U Squall corruption. A new gauge will let visually see how far under her control Squall is.The game is in 7 parts. The first 5 are filler SEED misadventures.
>>562960720>You were melting down in relation to 7R, in response to something that had nothing to do with that.First off, I'm not melting about anything. Once again, I just think it's hilariously ironic that VIIR's biggest fans have historically proven themselves to be its biggest shitposters while the "doomers" they defend the game from have been proven to simply be correct. Second, I can't even follow your schizophrenia anymore. So I'll just let you wallow in whatever it is you're doing right now and I'm going to stop replying to you.
>>562957352based, enjoy costa del so, l it's awesome!
>>562960981>The game is in 7 parts. The first 5 are filler SEED misadventures.As long as this allows me to spend more time with the characters, I'll be happy.
Can we do a Final Fantasy General watches week? Where we pick one FF anime/movie to watch and we all post our opinions on it? >>562961420SEED?
>>562961420Part 6 is split into 3 for Laguna Crew.
>>562961631>SEED?No, we aren't Chinese. This is a UC thread.
>>562962084Zeon made warcrimes.
>>562958781I didn't say the whispers would be back, but I did say there was a chance of them returning, which was apparently a doomer take. Someone went to great lengths to insist they were dead and gone for good and not returning.
F91 would've been such a kino anime especially when you see that Victory was pretty much going to be what F91 was going to be. I like F91 cast and setting a lot better though. Shrike Team dying would've been nothing compared to Seabook's friends dying one by one lol. Wonder if his sister would've bit it too. SEED is also really overhated and I don't get why every american always gets triggered by it. I was literally watching a review on the Gundam TCG and out of nowhere this fat fuck goes on a tangent about how SEED is the worst thing that's ever happened to him and caused his divorce and I'm just like what the fuck does this have to do with the TCG? Because the newest pack is SEED DESTINY?
Would Vayne be allowed to join Zeon?
Monitoring thread for negative 7R posts to set straight with objective statements.
>>562963451>>562957918end yourself faggot
>>562963779Cheer up, grumpy.
>>562963451What about positive 7R posts that are subjective rather than factual? Do you set them straight too in the quest for objectivity?
>>562964714No, only the negative ones get set straight.
Guys, I just fucking love FFV and can't get enough of it. This is my fifth time playing it in two years.>tfw the Krile's splinter shows up in your key item menu after your battle with Exdeath in his castle.Our girl just needed to ask for some damn tweezers.
>>562965017Understood. Barry would do something similar with negative posts about XV or Tabata, so we're very familiar with this approach.
>>562965141I just hate how FFV is completely misunderstood online, how the fuck do people play this yearly for the four job fiesta and ignore the goated story?
>>562957352It looks so much better than XVI...
>>562965915Not exactly a high bar. FF16 is the ugliest game in the series.
Ha, the fatherless woke up.
>>562965301>ignore the goated story?There's a not-insignificant number of people who, especially after having played FF4, 6, and 7, think that a story is only good if it's character driven. They need character drama to happen in lockstep with every plot point, otherwise they feel nothing, because there's no trail of breadcrumbs and flashy action setpieces intertwining with each character moment to get them to care about it by proxy.FFV's drama is much more simple. The plot of Exdeath terrorizing the world is really only a catalyst and backdrop on which a story of heroes becoming family is painted. All of the game's most powerful scenes end up being the small moments where characters simply show empathy and compassion toward one another. But if you take the time to get invested, you'll realize how tightly that story is told, and how poetic many of the game's moments are.Also, I hope you're not baiting/pretending to be the FFV schizo. Because I'M the FFV Schizo.
>>562965301FFV is just a worse DQ game
>playing Krile>my Iroha keeps dumping all of her abilities on the enemy team when she's max bravery>enemy lv9 onion knight chases me around and fails to kill me with both ninjutsu and spellbook thanks to wall and Krile's UR heal>Monsters Win
>>562954558I actually don't own Onion Knight though I am close to having enough charcater tickets to just pick him. Also I just got a dupe Renew and a dupe Trance today.
>>562967712But there is some character drama in the game. I had more emotions in this game everytime a dawn warrior died than most of the mainline games. I actually fucking love this game music and story and I think the gameplay is a bit too....restrictive actually lol. Not sure if that's the right way to say it but only one slot for action + bonus doesn't seem like enough and there's too many ways to cheese the game where you don't really need to engage with the system.
>>562954558I'm in the opposite stage, I have everything for Iroha and only Spellbook+1 for OK and he still does alright
>>562967712How would you design a FFV remake? More jobs? A "4 after" extra chapter?
>>562968065>But there is some character drama in the game.Yeah, but it's not like in more melodramatic games like FF4 where the drama is that Cecil has some secret legacy, and there's a mystery about his lineage, and Golbez turns out to be his brother, or like in 7 where Cloud thinks he's a Sephiroth clone and loses his brain. Instead it's just really simple shit like characters being afraid of becoming alone, which requires willing investment and empathy on the part of the player.Like, yeah, I cared when each of the dawn warriors died, too. Each time I play the game, the entirety of Galuf's role gets to me more. It's super easy to say that his amnesia is just a contrivance to delay Exdeath's reveal until the game is ready for it, but also his amnesia is kind of necessary for him to bond with the new generation on equal footing, and to give him a chance to forget all the tragedy he's dealing with. Getting old means watching your friends die.>I think the gameplay is a bit too....restrictive actually lol. Not sure if that's the right way to say it but only one slot for action + bonus doesn't seem like enough and there's too many ways to cheese the game where you don't really need to engage with the system.If you're into romhacking, you should try FFVR "Clean Edition". It's based on a Japanese fan-made romhack from many years ago that boosts the difficulty a lot and adds a bunch of enemies/bosses from NES and SNES era FF games, as well as offering optional features like more custom ability slots on jobs. Personally, I think only one free slot for abilities outside of Freelancer/Mime is a good balance, but I can see how you might want more room to play around.
>>562965301Two symptoms, the first is that people have more often than not a shallow way of interacting with narratives and tend to miss the forest for the trees. V has "on paper" a simpler and lighthearted plot than IV which is why it's often ridiculed, but tend to not really engage with how the plots actually play out in terms of pacing, setpieces and character dynamics, which V does excellently, and is probably the first FF where you can tell the team had finally gotten the hang out of narration writing. The second, somewhat more lingering, is that most of the FF fanbase hasn't played more than 2-3 games which often lead to games having a dedicated urban legend about it which is never really disproven because the people who could actually disprove it are pretty insignificant in the larger FF fandom. V is not really the only victim of this, but its reputation as the "lighthearted FF game with no plot" is one of those things that get repeated and become common knowledge regardless of validity.
>>562968545>How would you design a FFV remake?First and foremost would be to make all the cinematics focus on the bonding between the main characters. I'd probably even take some pages from FFXV's book, and include stuff like camping/fishing/cooking to really drive home the comfy feels of four friends being on an adventure. I'd make it so that some areas have campsites that are only accessible by certain vehicles/mounts and use them as bait to lure players toward good optional cutscenes, as well as things like treasure and blue magic.I might add new jobs, but what I'd really like to see is more depth in each job. I'd add hidden guilds for each job class around the world that you can find and engage with for quests to unlock new abilities, equipment, and limit break-esque super attacks for each job. It might also be nice to take inspiration from Chrono Trigger and give characters "dual/triple/quadra techs", especially given how strong their personalities are and how important their relationships to each other are. Like, Bartz and Faris would 100% have some kind of cross-slash attack with each other. Faris and Lenna would have a combo Syldra/Wind Drake summon that heals and hurts at the same time. There's tons of possibility.Also, I'd follow up on FFXV's concept that Omega was a robot intended to hunt Eidolons, and make Shinryu a summon you can attain.
FFV was the only FF game I played where I was actually craving more of it, not because the game felt incomplete but because I wasn't done with the world, setting and characters just yet. fucking love that game.
>>562968065>I had more emotions in this game everytime a dawn warrior diedFor reals, though, Zeza's death hits me harder every time I play. You could argue he's a "nothing character" that gets introduced only a couple of hours before he dies, but that's ignoring a lot of the really good development they do during that short time:>the way he and Galuf greet each other like old friends, and laugh in unison over how they both dislike the title of "king">the way they circle around eachother and square off once the ambush on the ship starts, like old war buddies>the chatty banter they have>all of Zeza's soldiers/subjects praising him non-stopif you take the time to talk to NPCs and treat them like real people, you get so much more out of this game.One thing that absolutely always gets me is Galuf just laying awake in the dark room in the submarine after Zeza sacrifices himself. It fucking crushes me. Dude gets his memory back just in time for everything to go to shit and for all his friends to die.
FFV is shit and has no fans.
>>562970480Correct.
>>562970480FFXV*
>>562969874Oh, also, your underwater airship hangar would be turned into a customizable base where each character has their own quarters that you can decorate with optional, collectible souveniers from every place you visit.Arguably, one of FFV's only flaws is that it was a JRPG made in 1992 where things like re-using town themes and tilesets was just the norm, so it results in all of the world's locations feeling a bit "samey", even though each town has a good bit of identity on paper. I think there's a lot of potential in giving each area its own flavor, especially the ones in Galuf's world. The notion that the planet was literally split into two separate worlds that somehow retained the exact same architecture and vibes is kind of a missed opportunity, but it's also the kind of thing they didn't really have the time or manpower to do back then.
>>562970480FFXIII*
>>562967712>I'M the FFV Schizo.I didn't know we had one of those.
>>562970392>Dude gets his memory back just in time for everything to go to shit and for all his friends to die.IMO, one of the most poetic moments in the game is the way Galuf's goodbye at the end of the first act directly mirrors the flashback later on where Dorgan (Bartz's dad) stays behind to watch over Exdeath. Galuf obviously feels guilt for everything that happened then, but especially the fact that he didn't have the courage to do what his friend did.Then it becomes his turn to show that same courage. To leave behind his new friends and return to his world of shit where Exdeath has returned and monsters attack his castle, because he wants to absolve them of a responsibility he feels isn't thiers'. Of course, they follow him anyway because it's not about responsibility at all. it's just about loving Galuf and wanting to help him.that's why the scene in Regole where Galuf and Bartz share a beer at the pub in the middle of the night is such a vital one. It's the handshake that throws out all pretense of obligation and guilt and simply says "I care about you and won't let you face this alone", all without actually saying it in that way that men do with each other. This sentiment pays off later, of course, when Bartz and the gang openly accept Krile into their family in Galuf's stead, which is basically why the ending of the game is so perfect. Krile being met at Galuf's grave by everyone and then riding off into the sunset together is just a pure kino moment.
>>562970291FF5 just has really good pacing, too. I think one of the reasons it lends itself so well to multiple replays, aside from the job system, is that it really doesn't have "that part". Like, maybe the fire-powered ship leading into the exploding castle? You could say the 30-floor Phoenix tower, but that's optional, and by the end of the game it's basically just a chance for you to bust out Freelancer/Mime and steamroll everything, as well as using the magic urns to finish leveling jobs.
>the devs know so little about final fantasy they have to beg the community to tell them about the games
>>562962681>Someone went to great lengths to insist they were dead and gone for good and not returning.The important thing to remember is that this person is the real fan. Everyone is who said they would return is shitposting. They will NOT be coming back in Part 2. If you think that, then you misunderstood the ending, or you're secondary doomer 3rd world shitposter who didn't even play the game.
>>562965141>Guys, I just fucking love FFV and can't get enough of it. This is my fifth time playing it in two years.Why though? The job system isn't even that deep. I can understand playing it maybe 2 or even 3 times in 2 years, but I can't understand playing it 5 times in 2 years.
Official autistic Japanese tryhard tier list
>>562977487That website always has the worst tier lists for gacha.
>>562977487wait dude's name is fucking GITANAS?
>>562976035Indeed. And in the highly unlikely event that you turn out to be wrong I'm sure you will show grace and willingness to admit as much, and concede that others were in fact right.
>>562979663Oh of course. That's what any reasonable person would do. Only an unreasonable shitposter would deny that such an event happened, and then spam report any post that shares archives links of multiple times this has happened after first asking for "Proof?", and I am not an unreasonable shitposter.
How much have you spent on Duellem?
>>562983504nothing>square enix gachayou know what that means
>>562983504Like $6 or so which is enough for this battle pass and the next as long as it's the same price
>>562983504Bout 10 bucks. Nabbed the second battle pass and a few of the daily paid pulls. Tbh I don't think it was necessary but I'm having fun with the game so idc.
>>562983504Like $6 of real money, but I redeemed some Google rewards for the $14 pack so SE has gotten $20 because of me. Honestly, they'll probably get more. As much as I hate my teammates most games, I do think the game is pretty cool and I do enjoy FF as a series.
>>562976805>I can't understand playing it 5 times in 2 years.Sounds like a (You) problem. I'll agree the system isn't particularly deep, but that doesn't stop it from being functional, fun, and dynamic. It's super easy to build characters the way you want. And if you play a 4 job fiesta, it forces you to think of strategies and use items, accessories, and armor that you might not have bothered with in a regular playthrough. Like, nobody probably uses Apollo's harp in a regular run, but I got Bard in my first fiesta and it became one of my favorite weapons in the game.Plus, the game is actually packed with details that support the plot and character development to the point that I notice something new each time I play. I also took the opportunity to play every existing translation to compare them and found some amusing things. Like how some of Faris' infamously obnoxious pirate speak from the PS1 translation was lifted directly to the GBA port as an "homage", akin to the Woolseyisms they kept in the GBA ports of 4 and 6—since there wasn't really any nostalgia for 5 in the west, they legitimately took dialogue people hated and made it work, which I found hilarious.Also, the game is only like 30-40 hours and has great pacing. It's tight, bright, and fun. You basically just baited me into explaining what it feels like to unironically love something to the point that you simply want to absorb as much of it as you can, lmao. Weird.
>>562985435>a few of the daily paid pullsI don't really see the value myself. I know it's like 88% discount but just general pool pulls at regular rate? The weekly though is something I wish I did from the start. I saw "SR guaranteed" and thought it meant one slot was guaranteed like on a normal multi, but it's every individual draw is SR or higher, with double UR rate. 6 bucks for a bunch of growth eggs and like 2 in 3 shot at a UR? I'll take it.
>after all these years finally playing raid shadow legends for mogcoinsI better pull some UR for doing all this shit in this shit game
>>562983504Less than I spent on FFXVI, and honestly, I'm having way more fun with this than I did with FFXVI.
>get invited to group for what I assume is for the weekly mission>"Sorry guys I might drag you down" >the person who made the group is silver while me and the other guy are high gold>they queue up ranked and play like complete shitI knew I should've left when they said that shit
Krile's HUGE ______!
>>562990105Futa horsecock
Evens never download DuellumOdds download and reroll for RikkuZero download and reroll for Clive
>>562991084See you next week
>>562991165I'll still download it if Rydia ever gets added. That's how OO eventually got me.
>>562991263FF14 spent two straight years wanking 4 as hard as they could so it could happen sooner than you might guess.
>>562991596>it could happen sooner than you might guessProbably not. There are a million other characters that are going to be added first, and it's probably a 2 new characters per month game at best. I'd bet EoS before Rydia.
>>562988282Same. It's really not a good sign when a mobile spinoff cash grab shit manages to outshine the mainline game in terms of enjoyment as a video game.
>>562991945>it's probably a 2 new characters per month game at bestThe producer said after this inital blitz to get every numbered game into Duellum they'd slow down to "not quite one a month" so something like every 6 weeks. So Sephiroth mid June, Tidus at the start of August, Celes mid September, Noctis November, and Christmas Kefka. Maybe it's closer to a character every 5 weeks. Maybe there are more multi release campaigns, but that's not something to bank on. Though I will admit that December being a big spending time in gachas and also the anniversary of both Dissidia and FF as a whole I don't think they'll let that sit with just Kefka but we'll see as the year goes on.
>>562993098Yeah, so no Rydia until year 3 or 4 at the earliest, if it's even still alive by then.
Rydia is shit and has no place in Dissidia
What iff... adult rydia went back in time and became her own mom
>>562986916It can be a bit hit or miss in my opinion, but getting 50 pulls for a few bucks isn't bad even if the pool is large. The 5% rate makes it a good option if you want URs. Of course, the downsides are that most of your pulls are going to be random Rs, you won't be able to aim for specific abilities, and there is also no pity.
>>562993476The most recent interview with the producer from like 3 days ago he said one of his top priorities in choosing who gets in is spotlighting characters who haven't had as much attention. That's (part of) why Iroha is in and not Shantotto who was the FF11 rep from the start of Dissidia and why Celes is getting in before someone like Squall. Obviously they know where their bread is buttered and are going to put in characters like Cloud and Sephiroth because that's what funds the deep cuts, but I'm expecting some curveballs
>>562989501How do you play bad in this? Not wasting Bust when you are about to be PK?
>>562993098I hope Sepheroth is a debuff support that uses time jannies.
>>562999316Ranged type, actually. Supernova is a UR that cannot be used in the first 60 seconds of a match and hopefully has like 100 seconds of cooldown, but hits everyone on the map. Octoslash just does a big damage combo for UR 2. Oblivion is a gap closer for medium damage, astral gate as an AoE get away from me move, not sure which is the SR and which is the R. Passive and unique action are not known.
>>562999805>It actually has a 100 second animation.
>>562999316He did absorb them at the end of Remake, so it would make sense. This was what led many to believe the whispers could possibly play a role in the plot of Rebirth.
>>563000218Not an unreasonable assumption
Is Nier Automata 1.1 worth watching if I already played the game before? Was planning on giving the anime as a refresher before news happens for the new stage play. >Not Final FantasyFinal Fantasy XIV sucks and the Nier raid was a huge disappointment.
>>562991945smoll
>>563000747>Final Fantasy XIV sucksTRVKE
>>563001851man it sucks because I have 4 houses and I tried like 5 times this year and last year to get back into it and I don't have ANY drive to play this game anymore. fuck xiv. I joined one bad static and that fucking killed my drive for the game completely.
>>563002652lol
>>563002862i mean i would surrender it but that lottery system is such a fuckwad.....
>>563002943Lottery system? Man I'm glad I play on an obscure server.
I have come to offer Eclaire
>one filtered postNice.
>>562961139You melted down.>no one:>you: AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Lightning post>followed by renewed attempt at hours-old shitpostingAnd he thinks he's not the shitposter.
>>562866292IDK what happened I haven't been here, but if I had to guess I'd say that "we" learned absolutely nothing from last thread"Follow the plan to save /ffg/" has fewer and fewer adherents by the week
>>563004047Ad he thinks he's so clever and that he's totally showing us. What a loser. No wonder his dad abandoned him.
Lightning isn't even the best girl in her own trilogy
>>563005478>Lightning isn't even a girlFixed. People need to remember that he's a tranny.
>>563003917You did the thing, anon.
/ffg/, I need your advice.What team did you go for in your team? I get that Balthier and Fran have cannon classes (even if I really wanted to give Fran some spears), but what about Vaan, Penelo, and the other slut?
>boss is 1 attack away from dying for both teams>Rinoa on the other team gets the bravery and is about to win>boss is right next to her>as WoL pass the bravery to Lightning who's respawning and Ultimate Shield attack over Rinoa's burst>the last hitbox knocks her past the boss as soon as she's vulnerable>she casted meteor before she got hit so it aims in the wrong direction and completely misses>Lightning gets enough time to sprint back in with burst and finish itClutchest win so far
>Lightning wins.
>>563005903Always likes Penelo as BLM/Monk personally, and I used to run Vaan as a white mage for some time. Someone told me once that guns are actually bad on Balthier because the flashy bastard has longer animations when using them, but to be honest ffxii is piss easy, do whatever feels good
Many filtered posts. Was the fatherless bullied at school for having no father, again?
Well, fuck.And here I was thinking "man that game is piss easy". Then Firemane killed Vaan, killed Ashe, and was on its way to kill Balthier as well.Looks like Stealing is actually shit, all I got was a potion.>>563008089That might've been a good idea, I picked Foebreaker because axes, and the result is there's nothing I do during fight, only attack.
6 tries for a single potion. That wasn't worth it.Also I need to get Vaan a shield.
>>563008596Don't want to sound rude but you must have serious skill issues if you ever get a game over in story fights. They're basically easy mode for the game, the real challenge lies in side content like mob hunts. Stealing is only for extra loots. It never gives anything worthwhile except for the Gilgamesh boss.
My teams have been so shit today. I just lost to a fucking Zidane. A FUCKING ZIDANE. My lv6 PvPgod onion knight running in and feeding bravery oh my fucking god.
man that game is beautiful>>563009046Dude, I had game overs in fucking Neptunia Rebirth 1 because of viral enemies and Black Heart. I suck at RPGs.Thanks for the warning about stealing, though.>>563009096Hi Materazzi. Got headbutted again?
>>562983504yall spend money on this shit?
>"don't do anythng stupid, vaan">immediately does something stupidI swear Vaan is the Jar Jar Binks of XII.
Balthier feels almost wasted on XII. The guy's smooth as fuck.
oh hey Gaius van Baelsar
>"ha, the repository of repossessed armaments">"oh so our stuff's in there?">"yes vaan, our stuff's in there"I swear this read more like Red Dwarf than Final Fantasy.>"what, everyone? Everyone's dead?">"Yes, Vaan, everyone's dead.">"Penelo too?">"Yes Vaan, everyone's dead.">"Larsa too?">"Yes Vaan, everyone. Everyone's dead, Vaan.">"Not Fran too!">"Yes Vaan, everyone's dead Vaan.">"Alex and Jake?">"Yes Vaan."
>playing Krile>get a cloud and a pure support lightning >against triple dpsokay
>>563013607>what about me>no blacks allowed>but red XIII is-
now that the dust is settled what battle song did you pick for ddff and why is it the 20 second loop of ff1 town?
>>563003835>>563006494Zased.
Ha, more filtered posts. The fatherless must be seething right now.
How come nearly everyone in FFX is dressed like a slut?
>Duellum>Rebirth>XIIWhy does no one play FFXVI here?
>>563015383We do. We're just not insecure enough to post about it to try to sell it to undermensch.
>>563015383Because it's a bad game. Even XIII is better.
>>563015635You struck a nerve, the fatherless immediately got pissed.
>>563015825>Because it's a bad game. Even XIII is better.
Absolutely no samefagging here.
>>563015921It's been seething for a while: it tried to stir up shit (as usual), but everyone had it filtered, and boy, that attention-starved loser didn't like that, so it's going doubletime to try to get attention and (You)s, since its miserable spamming of its Mary-Sue tranny husbando didn't work.
>>56301504025 seconds* https://dissidia.dev/music?q=Town
>>563015040the most fitting one (and best)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mLq11SLOxQ
>>563016854>>563016907Soken btfo
>>563015921He's addicted. He can't help himself.
>>563006494She's just too powerful...
>>563018589Yes, just samefagging all day without end. Look at him go.
>>563018589Addicted to these tasty (You)s.
>>563006494Iconic.How can Cucklive even compete?
>Now have almost the full FF8 party as figures along with Cerberus and AngelloHopefully the next con I go to has Irvine and Quistis, though they're all kinda silly next to my half again as tall as the party Squall.I'm happy though.
>>563012578https://youtu.be/_IC_zGHroeA?t=310&si=tImkR92uxG9L_1u4
>>563021908A face only Fran could love.
>>563022114To be fair, anyone would have that face after dealing with Vasn for an entire game.
>>563022253Fair. I swear, he's one of the stupidest JRPG protags I ever saw. Only the Last Remnant guy is stupider than him, but that guy has been raised by his single sister all his life and he might be literally autistic.
VIBRANT BIRDS
>>562991084I'm waiting for Shantotto.
>>563028508Shantotto love
>>563028508My favorite could not get me to play this, you shouldn't either.
>>563028508For me it's Rydia. Maybe Minwu, but probably not Minwu unless he has really cool Holy/Teleport/Ultima animations. OO was really based with Minwu and a lot of the character kits.
>>563029319>OOcuck surrenders to Duellum after saying he wasn’t gonna play itlel
>>563028508I was dreadful at using her, but she was super cute and I loved her voice
>Dissidia is PvP againWere home
>>563030309>gachaslop Ew
>can only summon a new ability per ticket or twentyfold with 3000 goldcome on. also i have 515 tickets or more to send.
>>563031660OO was shit
>>563021908i wish he do more FF titles, or rather other SE titles. Hell any idea why he hasn't worked on that spinoff with Edge,Yuffie,Thief,Gordon of Outcasts?
>>562865850>Playing FFXIII-2 for the first time>Open a few gates>Wtf; realize there's like a bunch of quest items you need and no clue as to where they are>Decide to look online to find out where to look>Realize the "joke"Somewhere hidden in space and time is the clues or information to what you seek......
any idea why Cloud of Darkness has a human body?
>>563032586Because its body is influenced by the warrior of darkness who unalived themselves to weaken she/them.
What went wrong?
Will we ever see a good Final Fantasy game?
>>563032453It'll drive you crazy when you find out they put the lastArtefacts in an out of bounds place that you can only access by throwing a moogle to get it for you. There's no way in hell anyone could find that shit on their own it's fucking bullshit.
>>563032586To lure in little boys.
>>563015825>Even XIII is better.No shit. After all, XIII is the best video game in history of gaming.
>>563034825nice
>more filtered postsThe fatherless is still going, huh?
>>563035186This post is off-topic.
>>563035186This post struck a nerve.
>>563035657Not related to Final Fantasy
>>563035186This post makes me want to wrap up FF Tactics
>>563029967I'm still probably never going to play it.
>>563035657Irrefutable.
>>563036031Off-topic, I'm afraid.
>>563036031TRVTH coded.
>>563036031Indeed.
Krile made me hard stiff as a tree last night.
>>563036793Krile is a brat.
how does FFII's continent even work
>>563034871Lightning is immaculate. Every day without remaster of the XIII trilogy is a day of suffering. They should have spent another year of development on Lightning Returns back in the days: the foundation was very solid and unique, but the density and variety of content were still a bit thin, and the graphics did not inspire admiration.
Well, even more filtered posts. That loser is really desperate.
>>563037201off-topic-codedspam-coded
>>563037201Oh, you struck a nerve.
>>563037298chatbot-coded
>>563033037Ready-made assets from Unreal Engine libraries were too tempting a solution.
>>563039146Me on the left.
what is the name of the track that plays at the beginning?https://youtu.be/R24rCbL4TfQ
>>563033695FF4 is right there.
>>563033037Barret wears sunglasses in a location with barely any sunlight. They even make a point about Midgar having fake suns under the plate.
>>563033695Dude has never played Type-0.
>>563032586https://youtu.be/7rwUdL9qXjk
>>563047578Why wouldn't he?
>>562969345>V has "on paper" a simpler and lighthearted plot than IV which is why it's often ridiculed, but tend to not really engage with how the plots actually play out in terms of pacing, setpieces and character dynamics, which V does excellently, and is probably the first FF where you can tell the team had finally gotten the hang out of narration writing.100% agree, brilliantly put. It's always been weird to me that some folks will applaud FFIV's characters and storytelling while shitting on FFV's in the same breath, when the latter builds on the former in so many ways.>most of the FF fanbase hasn't played more than 2-3 games which often lead to games having a dedicated urban legend about it which is never really disproven because the people who could actually disprove it are pretty insignificant in the larger FF fandom. Also extremey true. I myself was guilty of this until I actually played the game. The longer I was immersed in the FF fandom without hearing any real praise or "hot takes" about how V actually, secretly had an amazing story that people were sleeping on, the more I capitulated to the common belief that it was only worth playing for the job system. It was like a reverse echo-chamber effect, where I assumed an opinion must not be valid simply because I wasn't hearing it.
>>562969345>V has "on paper" a simpler and lighthearted plot than IV which is why it's often ridiculedI'd actually like to build on this for a second, because it's a problem among almost every FF game. Nearly every entry with an actual narrative from like 3-9 has its somber parts and its silly parts in equal measure, but people like to selectively ignore whatever doesn't match the vibe they want to project.To be honest, I think this is just an aspect of Japanese media clashing with western sensibilities and expectations. In Japan, sandwiching humor and pathos together isn't as taboo as it is in America. The important part is that the humor never comes AT THE EXPENSE of the pathos. There might be a silly gag about the villain literally turning himself into a splinter, but when we're exploring Krile's fears of loneliness or Faris' vulnerability, it's 100% straight-faced. This dichotomy upsets Americans for some reason, and they manifest their refusal to acknowledge such tonal dissonance by completely downplaying or admonishing one side of it.The end result is hamstrung opinions that completely misunderstand or overlook intended thematical elements just because they rub elbows with the fantastical, childish, and absurd. This is why so much of the western FF7 fandom outright despised Cait Sith, or chose to completely ignore Cloud's mental trauma and pretend the plot was just about Good Big Sword Man getting revenge on Evil Big Sword Man. It's also why one of the biggest criticisms of FF4 is all the "fake-out" deaths, despite the fact that those are instrumental to the game's themes. This refusal to acknowledge the coexistence of drama and whimsy has only snowballed as people expect games to look more and more like movies that constantly tell you how you're supposed to feel about any given scene with hyper-realistic facial expressions and 4k ultra HD atmospheres. Older games had to make do with plain text and 12-pixel-tall avatars—investment was required.
>>563040879the sunglasses are for the minigun lights
>>563040879>They even make a point about Midgar having fake suns under the plate.I feel like the reason for this was that they didn't want to have an entire 50-60 hour game set in depressing darkness. The vibe worked (and was arguably instrumental) in the original game where Midgar was just the first several hours or so, but I understand the need for varied environments.
>>563040823>FF4 is right there.How do we feel about the DS remake? I've been playing it lately and it feels like it doesn't really hit its stride until you get the airship, but then everything kinda clicks. The combat is notably more balanced and complex, with more viable strategies and depth. I've heard people describe the difficulty as "unforgiving", and being grind-bait, but honestly the game just expects you to actually think and use your status spells, which many FF fans have been conditioned to think useless.I'm just about to head into the final dungeon, and I feel like the game has only truly been frustrating once or twice, with one instance of me simply needing to reset until a boss ran an attack pattern I could survive. My only real complaint would be the augment system effectively being New Game+ bait since you can't get all of them in one playthrough, and the best ones require you to give away augments to temporary party members, and you'd have no idea which ones are worth trading for what without a guide.I'd say it isn't a problem because you CAN beat the game without getting the best augments, but it's just that being able to put new skills and abilities on these characters is a big part of what makes the combat more fun and dynamic than the original. I love having Cecil with counter/kick, or turning Edge into a ninja bard.
>>563058430>It's also why one of the biggest criticisms of FF4 is all the "fake-out" deathsReminder that Cloud, Tifa, and Sephiroth all have fake-out deaths in VII, it's just perceived differently because you begin at the point where they are still alive. And then Barret has one in Remake. And I'd argue that VII has even more plot contrivances aside from Cloud, Tifa, and Sephiroth's fake deaths than IV does, but people (at least here) choose to overlook those while focusing on an inconsequential aspect of IV that isn't even actually egregious. You could also say FFX has a lot of fake-out deaths, especially considering the fact that like half the main cast is already dead. There's only even 4 fake-out deaths in IV (Palom+Porom who can be considered "1" if you want to lower the number to 3, Cid, and Yang), and them living does nothing to or for the narrative except that Yang has a sidequest, and I'd wager they were all intended to have side quests but that got cut at some point. Even if we want to pretend that IV's fake deaths are a massive issue when they're not, there actually aren't even that many of them, and their fake deaths are all completely inconsequential to the narrative, which some people might consider a worse outcome, but for people to only show up at the very end of the game essentially in a cameo just to show that they didn't die is a lot better than someone dying on-screen and then having a pivotal role in the narrative later. >>563060223I think it's the best version of IV easily. >I've heard people describe the difficulty as "unforgiving", and being grind-baitIt's definitely "harder" than is "normal" for Final Fantasy, but I wouldn't even say you need to grind, and you can play the overwhelming majority of the game by just using the auto battle to select the same previously used command every time. Same as all FFs, you only really need to deviate for boss battles, and almost solely just to heal. It just expects you to fight the randoms.
>>563037759Bullshit.
>>563060223>How do we feelTicklish and bloated. Too much cheese yesterday.
>>563060960>their fake deaths are all completely inconsequential to the narrative, which some people might consider a worse outcome, but for people to only show up at the very end of the game essentially in a cameo just to show that they didn't die is a lot better than someone dying on-screen and then having a pivotal role in the narrative later.This is my take. The fact that they come back isn't really a detriment to anything. And thematically, the fact that they come back is pretty relevant, and the game hits you pretty hard over the head with the idea that Tellah (the one death that isn't a fake-out) only truly dies because he sacrificed his life for anger and revenge, rather than to protect anything. And that kind of runs parallel to Cecil's entire arc of going from a dark knight who literally spends his own HP to hurt others, to a Paladin who selflessly absorbs hits for his friends.I think my only real criticism would be that Yang should only show up at the siege of Babil if you made the trek to the bottom of the Sylph cave to see him beforehand. But this was really their first foray into narratives with missable content, so I can see why they also wanted him there for the big "power of friendship" moment, regardless of what the player did.>can play the overwhelming majority of the game by just using the auto battleTrue. Toward the last third of the game, I definitely started running into some battles where casting slow/stop on certain enemies ASAP was non-negotiable, though, otherwise they'd start one/two-hit KO-ing people. I had good results with having Edge sing Alluring Aire on his first turn to confuse anything susceptible, as well. Being able to cast protect/shell on all party members at once is also a huge asset which a lot of players might overlook because those spells are traditionally single-cast only in FFs.
>>563062385>Being able to cast protect/shell on all party members at once is also a huge asset which a lot of players might overlook because those spells are traditionally single-cast only in FFs.It also seems to be an extremely recurring theme with FF players that they don't realize you can use Rods and Staves in battle to cast offensive or defensive/curative magic, which really helps a lot particularly for random battle, and by the time the healing staff starts falling off for this purpose, Rosa has Pray anyway.
>>563064070Doesn't using these as items break them? Or was it in V?
>>563064164Breaking rods/staves was V.
>>563064164Yeah, I think that's a specifically V-only thing. That might be part of the reason I don't like V nearly as much as everyone else seems to.
>>563064317Right, thanks famalacoricofallappatorius.>>563064410Honestly I kinda prefer it, inventory management in IV was dreadful.
>>563064506>Honestly I kinda prefer it, inventory management in IV was dreadful.You've clearly never actually used rods or staves in battle as items to cast spells.
>>563060223>>563060960>>563062385TLDR
>>563064561Actually I did. Rekt.
>>563064701No, you very clearly have never used rods or staves as items in battle to cast spells. There is no inventory management involved. You equip the character with the rod or the staff that casts the spell you want to be using, you go to items, and you press *up* at the top of the menu, and it displays the character's equipped items, and you select their equipped rod or staff from there. And in the 3D version, you can set it as one of their commands. No inventory management at all.
installing ff16 right nowdo i go with japanese or english audio?
>563064875>"I did">"nu-huh"ok, so trying to reason you is a waste of time, good to know. Enjoy talking to yourself and projecting your own inadequacies even more.
>>563064910English script was used as the basis and lipsync used English VAs, go with that.People don't really talk about the JP dub, but I think it's still very good though.
>>563065102C'mon, larping anon. You don't interact with the inventory AT ALL when using rods or staves as items to cast spells in battle. You'd know that if you had ever done it before. I think FFI is the only time you have to interact with the actual inventory to cast spells with items.
>>563065203very nice, cheers
>>563065324>You don't interact with the inventory AT ALL when using rods or staves as items to cast spells in battle.You do if the spell you want isn't on the item you currently have equipped. Especially when you start getting to the point where even the swords and such weapons have spells.At least, that's how it is in III.
>>563066375>You do if the spell you want isn't on the item you currently have equipped.Well, specifically for IV3D, which is the game that was being talked about, you *need* to have the item equipped.
>>563062385>And thematically, the fact that they come back is pretty relevant,Similar scenario with Kain and his constant betrayals. If you take them at face value, you might think its ridiculous that the party keeps "falling for him", but there's a pretty obvious thematic element to his posession that the game drives home even harder in the DS version. It's one of the things that actually makes him a good character and not just a tryhard jerk, imo.And I love his costume in the new mobile gacha shit, because edgelord fedora-man is entirely his vibe. Playing the DS version and seing his grumpy, grimdark silhouette alongside the rest of the party on the victory pose screen really drives home how much of a literal fifth wheel he is. We see Cecil get his shit together, and Edge (despite his immaturity) arrives in your party with his shit already together, but Kain is basically a messy incel for the whole game, and that's why he goes on a journey at the end to become a better person.>>563064410Breaking rods in V is awesome, though. Using a rod in IV only casts the weakest level of elemental spell, which effectively just makes it serve as an MP-saver for random encounters. Breaking a rod in V unleashes Firaga/Blizzaga/Thundaga, which can be a HUGE asset, especially in a four job fiesta. But the rods are so rare/expensive and you only have access to them for a short window where you likely don't have the cash to stock up on them, so it balances out. Especially since equipping the rods gives an innate 50% boost to their respective element (which they don't in IV), so it both gives them more utility, and makes breaking them a trade-off.Plus I just love the idea of taking a masterfully crafted arcane artifact of significant value and smashing the fuck out of it to release an elemental hellstorm above your pay grade. It's always fun to just show up at Shiva and bust a fire rod in her face.
>>563066685Interesting change.>which the game that was talked about. I quoted the wrong part. I should've quoted>I think FFI is the only time you have to interact with the actual inventory to cast spells with items.
>>563066813>Using a rod in IV only casts the weakest level of elemental spell, which effectively just makes it serve as an MP-saver for random encounters.Yeah, that's why I like it. It gives the "useless" mages something to do in random encounters that actually contributes, allowing you to save their MP for bosses where you can just unload like you'd want to be doing anyway. So essentially nothing changes except that your mages contribute (sometimes more than the melee) to random encounters instead of attacking and doing 20 damage or whatever and being dead weight. I just don't like the idea of Rods and Staves essentially being versions of "Arctic Wind" and those types of items, because those already exist and the non-V Rods and Staves do something unique that nothing else does. I'm not a Fiesta enjoyer though. I don't even like V that much.
https://youtu.be/4i5JJ5auooo?t=78FFVII rebirth switch 2 and xbox trailer is so cool man, my favorite part are the scenes of tifa/aerith taking care of cloud well being back to backthe song used is also pretty damn hype
>>563066685>Well, specifically for IV3DOne of the few changes in FFIV 3D that I actively dislike is that changing your equipment in battle now uses up a turn. In the SNES games, rifling through your inventory and changing what you have in either hand was a free action. I don't think it's unreasonable to change that, but at the same time, being able to change your equipment for free isn't such a broken strategy that I think it needs to be penalized. If anything it was far more abusable in FFV where you had a lot more weapons with fun bonus effects.>>563067531>I just don't like the idea of Rods and Staves essentially being versions of "Arctic Wind"Same. The one thing that makes them SOMEWHAT more useful in the DS version of IV, at least, is that their power is doubled by the "item lore" augment. But then again, so are those same attack items.
>>563066375You're wasting your time trying to reason that NPC.
Last week, I finally played Final Fantasy 7R. And honestly... what a letdown. The story tried to tie up years’ worth of plotlines from games I had nο connection with, and it did so in a messy way. The dialogue felt weak, and they completely left out all the Final Fantasy characters and the Coliseum. While the gameplay itself was fun, the story was incredibly convoluted—especially for a game aimed at kids
>>563068675Thanks chatgpt
>>563068675Don't complain until you have at least done your research. Watch youtube videos about the story and read some theories before calling it a letdown, convoluted, or messy.
>>563068775What would be a valid criticism of 7R?
>>563068675Why did you take a post about KH3 and switch the name?
>>563069021>>563068928Jimbo, read this part, it makes literal to no sense, something chatgpt would do>and they completely left out all the Final Fantasy characters and the ColiseumAt least try to read the posts you want to defend so much
>anger, deflection, namefaggingThe test truly never fails.
>>563069136>something chatgpt would doAs someone who has never used ChatGPT but who has now watched enough YouTube videos clearly written (and often voiced) by AI, as well as watching that episode of the (surprisingly attractive) woman who is very outspoken about being in love with her AI, there is an extremely distinct sentence and overarching thought structure that things written by AI tends to follow, and what's crazy is that I'm the only person on 4chan I have ever seen call out posts that are clearly and distinctly written by AI which many people seem to respond to and say things like "This.", while every single time one of you retards calls something "ChatGPT" it literally NEVER actually reads like something that was written by AI.
>>563069549Your criticism of 7R was crushed. Let it go Jimbo.
>>563069648I didn't say anything about VIIR or even respond to any of the VIIR posts. I was talking about IV, IV3D, and using Rods and Staves as weapons.
>>563069719>and using Rods and Staves as weapons.***items in battle to cast magic. So actually I was talking about *not* using them as weapons.
>>563069648>>563069514>>563069021You really actually thought >>563068675 was real, fucking kek At least take the L with dignity you moronhere, let me help you>*sigh* yeah you are right, i shouldnt have jumped to defend it so quickly, but you know me, when our critics honor is in danger i just jump immediately to defend, no matter how stupid or how much i disagree with it
>>563069136What would be a criticism of 7R that makes sense?
>>563068675Based
>>563069867You know how difficult it is to admit when you're wrong better than anyone, anon.
>>563069110He's also spamming it in the Sonic general
>>563069867What are you sperging about you schizo
>>563067531>non-V Rods and Staves do something unique that nothing else does.But they don't? They literally just cast a spell that anyone who equips those rods likely already has access to.>It gives the "useless" mages something to do in random encounters that actually contributes, allowing you to save their MP for bosses This doesn't really matter in FFIV onward though, since that's when they started putting save points before every boss, so you can just refuel with a tent. Rods in V add multiple kinds of utility and are balanced to match V's gameplay. Rods in IV are balanced for the gameplay in I-III, which kind of makes them redundant, which is probably exactly why they changed them going forward.
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>>563070161PLEASE let this get added to the dossier to muddy up the investigation even further.
>>563070213>But they don't? They literally just cast a spell that anyone who equips those rods likely already has access to....for zero MP. Allowing them to be effective in random battles when they otherwise would not be. Whereas V's Rods and Staves are just different versions of Arctic Wind type items, something that already exists and honestly in my opinion serves no purpose whatsoever outside of limitations like the Four Job Fiesta. Presumably, that is; I am not a Fiesta enjoyer so I wouldn't know, but I do know it serves no purpose playing V normally.
I'm just glad I was here to invalidate that negative viir post within a minute of it being posted. Vigilance. Constant vigilance.
the fuck is happening here
>>563070718The test worked (again)
>>563070718We're seeing a certain sort of test in action. And it worked flawlessly, like it always does.
>>563070718jobless faggots doing the daily "I'm not the problem, YOU'RE the problem" game.
>>563070563>...for zero MPAgain, this doesn't matter if you just carry tents on you. The dungeons in FF4 almost always have a save point halfway, then another before the boss. Conserving MP isn't ever really an issue.>Whereas V's Rods and Staves are just different versions of Arctic Wind type items, something that already exists But those items DON'T exist in V. And the rods in V add the funcitonality of boosting their respective elemental damage by 50% when equipped. They're also prohibitively rare/expensive for the window you have access to them, so it forces you to weigh wether or not breaking them is worth it. And unlike the elemental attack items, they're super strong when they're first available, which makes them actually useful and not just an alternative to spending MP, which again, isn't a concern when you can just buy tents.I'm not the anon you started this discussion with, but having to rebuke you actually made me realize how monumentally superior rods are in V, like through and through. They basically took the concept of single-use elemental attack items that bloat your inventory, and turned them into a functional piece of equipment with extra utility and a cost-benefit factor to consider. They're even MORE useful when you take into account they can be equipped and used by jobs that don't actually have access to those elemental spells, like Blue Mage, or Time Mage.
>>563072675>But those items DON'T exist in V.Right, because Rods and Staves stopped being independently useful items and became Arctic Winds instead.
>>563072491It's not a problem for anyone but you because you're the only one being made fun of.And yes you're being made fun of because you're a problem.
>>563072858They're a thousand times better than arctic winds just for the fact that they can be used to boost elemental damage by being equipped, but you seem keen on purposefully ignoring that point. You just think they're arctic winds because they're now consumable, and that rustles your jimmies for some reason.
>>563073346>They're a thousand times better than arctic windsSure, yeah. They do more damage and you can equip them, that's definitely "better" than Arctic Winds. It's not better than the other versions of Rods and Staves though.>but you seem keen on purposefully ignoring that pointWhy do you falsely think that, and why is this becoming deeply personal for you? I'm ignoring this """point""" because it isn't relevant to the conversation of Rods and Staves being items you can infinitely use in any battle vs them being turned into glorified Arctic Winds.
>>563073310case in point.
5 pull gave me two URs. Gambling is honestly pretty great all the times it doesn't suck ass.
>>563073931Great point anon, really opened a lot of eyes with that one
>>563073310>>563073931>>563075202>Open your eyes>I see>Your eyes are open ~ The Emperor
>>563075395Always, I wanna be with you.
>>563073753>It's not better than the other versions of Rods and Staves though.It is. Especially given how they're balanced to match the gameplay of the game they're actually in. You're imagining FFV rods in the gamepay of FF I-IV and calling them bad in a context in which they do not exist. The funniest part is that even if you took the rods out of V and put them in I-IV, they would still be more useful. Boosting spell strength by 50% or becoming a one-time -Aga spell is so much more utility than using them to spam weak-ass elemental spells for free.And designing your game so that you need to hoard your MP up for the boss, but then giving the player a workaround to be able to cast spells for free is such lazy and uninspired gameplay. It's like locking a door, but leaving the window open right next to it. If we were talking about FFI-III which didn't have saves before most bosses, you might have a point, but this discusison specifically started regarding FFIV, which is the game where rods are most objectively redundant. The nuance of this seems way over your head, somehow.
>>563075395HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYAEYAA
>>563076225>It is.Disagree.
Rydia is so loose
Why is it they fucked with perfectly fine Ted Woolsey translations with personality but left VII alone all these years?
i'm pleasantly surprised by ff16 so farthe fire bird was just killed so we're starting on a high note
>>563080993She grew to adulthood among monsters and eidolons. That vag is stretched beyond human use canonically.
>>563083547t. tiny dick
>>563083627FFXVI inches flaccid.
>>563083704Still better than FFXIII micropenis.
>>563084714FFXVI inches. FFXIII millimeters.
FFVII kilometers.
>>563083547Poor Edge...
Defense is a fully fucking useless stat in Dissidia so characters who have part of their power budget dedicated to it like WoL and Iroha and to a lesser extent Gaia are at a disadvantage and characters like Prompto and Cloud who "give up" defense to hit big attack numbers got a great deal.
>it's another cloud too retarded to teamfight episodeAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH stop fucking farming retard if your teammates are OK and Krile you are supposed to be fucking killing people how hard is it to understand?
>>562884480Update on this. I got three URs today from my gold crystals including two of the missing Iroha ability and a Gaia UR I was missing. I guess I can't complain about the gacha anymore.
>>563033894Honestly; I'm really starting to wonder if they designed the game with the treasure hunting spirits from the Ars Geotia in mind.... however if you're looking for something that will "drive you crazy"; consider the following; one of the spirit swords in FFXIII-2 is able to project across infinite space and time to where you're playing FFXIII-2.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beuQN1QtA5M>God of manipulation and mind control, charisma & sex appeal, obssessive love, sex, lust, sodomy (buggery), relationships, opening one's powers and senses, lucid dreaming and astral projection.Which would be quite the surprise.... if the people playing Final Fantasy series weren't already being watched by beings such as Shiva and Zeus anyway....
>>563092382Not gonna happen. I have had too many matches, even up in diamond where my teammates pretend that this is not a PvP game and off me no support in fighting the enemy team. Second I stopped hoping for backup and just started farming crystals and dumping cooldowns my winrate went way up. This is effectively a singleplayer game to me now and that attitude has gotten me to D2 and climbing.
>>563064910>Ok boys; I'm not sure what they use to lubricate that wolf's jaws; but the coefficient of friction is insanely low, yet high enough to slow it's velocity after a single revolution.
Zangan taught her this move.
>>563064910Neither, the German and Spanish dubs are the best ones by far.
>>563065203>lipsync used English VAsDidn't FF13 have different lipsync tracks like 15 years ago? How is that not more common by now?
I just realize that the one guy who spergs out whenever people post their "let's plays" or "blogs" (i.e. screenshots of Final Fantasy while talking about Final Fantasy) has literally never sperged out about people posting Remake/Rebirth screenshots.
>>563033894>Ways to play FFXIII-2 that will "drive you crazy"In terms of information theory, information awareness theory, and time paradox resolution theory; every time Noel, or anyone else mentions time a time paradox simply insist that it makes sense, or say "but bro; all I'm seeing is another room, what makes you think there's some sort of issue, if it's another room".
>563098187>Ways to play FFXIII-2 that will "drive you crazy"There are no parallel versions of anyone; everyone is in linear and non-linear time where they lie about their age, and having ever done the same thing ever before; this is actually the 4th of 5th time Hope has made an Academia tower, but he lies and says he's the same age every time it's year 7.
>fake reply>reddit spacing>misuse of semicolonsI've seen this many times before.
>Any post I don't like is a fake replyI've seen this many times before
>>563100579>Any post I don't like is a fake replyNope. Just the fake replies.
>samefag schizo is now samefag schizoing about him samefag schizoing Bizarre.
>>563092398now do that 29 more times and you can play omega
>>563105778I think it's funny that they made a purely PvP gacha game and that there is essentially a designated whale tier for the PvPers. I've seen gachas where there is PvE and the PvP is just side content which some people (i.e. whales) treat as main content, but I can't say that I've ever seen a purely PvP gacha game before.
Finally, a good sword design in Rebirth.
>yet more quality control concerntrolling from posters who will never actually discuss final fantasy on /ffg/What drives them?
>>563105778My cope is they'll eventually have a system or give out enough resources that most players will be able to have one omega viable character and whaling will be for people that want to play multiple characters at a high level
Everyone in this thread is older than dust. No wonder you're seeing ghosts in the replies.
>>563108252That age brings wisdom. I now see the truth. Vayne did nothing wrong.
>>563107498This has got to be the stupidest, goofiest screenshot I have seen in years.Cloud going fucking full Spazz Maticus.
>>563108058They said they are testing a new type of crystal that gives out character specific skills, who knows how effective it will be though. It's coming with the Balthier/Firion release.
>>563113924I'm aware of that but I'm extremely doubtful that they would provide enough UR dupes to compete in omega since that would massively discourage whales from spending.
>>563113701
>>563114205That poor guy is going to receive a full frontal metal cannon to the face.
>Paradigm MtG ripping off FFXIII
>>563115223Except MtG is actually good, meanwhile FFXIII...
>>563114205
>>563115430MtG is actually fucking trash now, but it's still better than XIII.
>>563116864How so?
>>563117186I guess you can sum it up with "powercreep" and "feature creep" and "keyword bloat"
>>563117320Ha. Fair, yeah, my boyfriend streamed me some MtG, and he had to stop every 2 seconds so that I could read the rules on the cards.
>>563117497>my boyfriend...yeah, well needing to read the cards isn't necessarily keyword bloat, that's just something you need to do if you're unfamiliar with the game. If you're a new player you wont realize that Magic is an extremely far cry from the game it used to be. You need to play "Pauper", a format that only allows common cards, to feel even a semblance of the game that Magic used to be.
>>563117872I mean, he once managed to get all his creatures card to 1565135146/1565135146 by stacking mechanisms, so yeah.
>>563114324Sieg Zeon
>>563118553Never forgive.Never forget.
>>563118001Yeah, you can pretty easily shit out an entire board of massive tokens nowadays. As an example, Tarmogoyf was a staple creature from back when Magic first started turning bad. Magic first started turning bad when they added the Planeswalker card type which is complete cancer, but you could still play Magic back in these days. Anyway, this card was so fucking overpowered back then that it was like $200 each and now it's like $10. This was basically a 2 mana 4/3 or a 2 mana 4/5 and was insanely good because you can shit it out pretty early and an early game 4/5 is hard to deal with, even if it doesn't have any abilities. Tarmogoyf came around at "the beginning of the end" in terms of Magic's integrity as a card game, and now it's basically unplayable because it's not good enough. That's not even mentioning the fact that Magic is just collabslop and you have Spongebob and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Spiderman cards (and Final Fantasy cards) and shit like that.
Controller died.Holy shit the phone controls for Dissida sucks.
>>563118665I'm still confused as to why you claim MtG is mechanically bad when you can counter any creature deck by just having that one card that let you kill any creature. I can understand the rulebloat, but a single creature sounds insanely easy to counter.Well, on paper anyway.I concur for the collab shit, I was very surprised that MtG sold itself even more than a fighting game.
Made it into Omega using this. Wasn't as difficult as people made it out to be.
>>563119069>I'm still confused as to why you claim MtG is mechanically badI never claimed MtG is mechanically bad. It's the grandfather of TCG for a reason. The core, fundamental mechanics are all very good and have been copied many times for this reason. The current game is just so astronomically powercrept from where the game started* and it's even so astronomically powercrept from when Magic first started losing its integrity that you basically can't play the most expensive card of the formats in the modern age. Tarmogoyf has a massive, lasting impression across all formats back in the day, and it just doesn't anymore because the game is too powercrept, has too much feature creep, and has too much keyword bloat that a vanilla 2 mana 4/5 just isn't good enough anymore, and it used to be INSANE. And the game was already becoming bad back when it was good. >a single creature sounds insanely easy to counter.You don't play Magic. The decks that liked playing Tarm the most were also at least somewhat control decks. You don't play the thing you want to keep around if your think your opponent can counter it or if you can't protect it with your own counters.
So if you play DPS without Fire RF you're pretty much just trolling
>>563119682>CloudDoesn't count
>>563119803>just so astronomically powercrept from where the game started*Oops, I meant to add an asterisk note. >from where the game started*The game technically started with crazy cards like Time Walk and Ancestral Recall and Black Lotus and the Moxen, which are typically referred to as the "Power 9" because they originally printed crazy power in the first iteration of the game because they didn't really know any better at that point. But they course corrected and cards became a lot more grounded for along time.
>>563119803I see, yeah. Now that you say it, my friend did show me how busted the FF collab was.>You don't play the thing you want to keep around if your think your opponent can counter it or if you can't protect it with your own counters.So is it Magic the Gathering or fucking Spy vs Spy?
>Renew as a best case scenario when used at 1 HP effectively doubles your HP>Wall's 80% damage reduction effectively gives you 5x HP>There are people that actually run Renew over Wall
>>563120168>So is it Magic the Gathering or fucking Spy vs Spy?The interaction is part of why Magic used to be good and is the grandfather of TCG.
>>563120303And why it's so fun to watch. Going to assume that's why Yu Gi Oh exists, right? Magic matches getting wild and overly dramatic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV07YSuKNk4
>>563120290Wall is really good but it doesn't do anything against earth breaker or meltdown
>>563120470Yu-Gi-Oh probably exists because of Magic, yes. Magic is probably also why the Pokemon TCG is a thing or any of the other dozens of TCGs that have released since then.
>>563120538Renew is good but it doesn't do anything against Fire RF
>>563120639Pokemon TCG?
>>563106151>I can't say that I've ever seen a purely PvP gacha game before.I would consider card games to fall into that category and Pokemon TCG is top 5 money maker on the app stores. There's a China exclusive Naruto 3v3 fighter which has big esport tournaments even. Dragon Ball Legends is another consistent performer. The game that this game is based on, #COMPASS never made crazy money but it has been making enough money to fund itself for a decade and make an FF remake seem like it'd make a buck or two.
why are you guys even supporting a square enix gacha, you know it'll die in two years. that's the fucked up shit about SE.
The biggest mistake and probably the reason DDFF is going to EoS isn't it being pay to win, it's the fact that it's a mixed toilet game
>>563120765>Pokemon TCG is top 5 money maker on the app storesThat has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it's a "PvP" game, it has to do with the fact that it's Pokemon. The whales probably don't even play the game, they probably just spend to try to open the chase cards, since higher rarity cards in that game aren't actually any better than lower rarity cards that are the same card.
>>563121103>That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it's a "PvP" gameThe point is not that it makes money by being PvP, it's that it has one of the biggest communities of supporters and an amount of fan goodwill and faith, so obviously those things are not incompatible with the idea of "a pvp gacha"
>>563121541>so obviously those things are not incompatible with the idea of "a pvp gacha"I don't think you understood what I said. Pokemon TCG makes money because it's Pokemon TCG, not because you can play other players in an extremely rudimentary card game. Just look at real life Pokemon TCG cards. Grown ass men don't show up at Target on opening of restock day and buy the entire stock that they put out instantly because they actually use the cards, they do it because other people collect the cards. Pokemon TCG makes money because it is a virtual card collector, not because there is a rudimentary PvE and PvP card game attached to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchisesIt is the highest grossing franchise of all time, after all. Shit, if Pokemon released a #COMPASS clone, that'd probably do well too, though not as well as a virtual Pokemon card collector where you don't need to engage with the PvE or the PvP aspects of the game if you don't want to and you can still open packs every day and collect the cards.
>>563120290Counterpoint: I don't have Wall, but got Renew to +3
Does anyone else frustrate themselves by watching streamers be total shitters at games you're good at?
>>563124873Watching streamers get stuck on puzzles.
>>563125643Sounds like my day. Except with whiskey instead of wine.
What is so good about RF Fire card?
>>563127152RD is the abbreviated form of Retarded Faggot and we're all retarded faggots here, thus RF good.
>>563127340>RD is the abbreviated form of Retarded FaggotHa, yes, Retarded Dfaggot.
>>563128247I think it's Retarde D'faggot. It's French
What should I make Basch into? A Shikari?
>>563128538It's Hebrew.
>>563127152Long range big damage
>>562865850imma finna keep it real witchu...altough i love the concept of dissidia mobile game.. i hate the fact that its straight up pay to win. all you need is 2 UR's in your equipment set and you're going to blow everyone away.. secondly, if you want to get the SAME copy of a UR ability you have to get 30 of them, which is usually a 5% chance of pulling a UR.. but that's ANY UR and not the one for your character.so if you want a good competitive build.. good fuckin luck. i guess it's all luck by pulls but how much of it is really rigged? it has paid and free in-game currencies. i like the fact that they're trying to make their own "persona" to win the younger generation over but not like the FUCK this. so disappointing. they could have made the next dissidia game with the same themes but with the fighting gameplay.. fuck, im mad
>>563128613Monk
>>563133692Sounds fun. Aight I'll do it.
they're nerfing monsters againhttps://x.com/DDFF_EN/status/2042444963397714361
>>563135000Gotta cater to Lightningshitters.
Which champion should I reroll for?
>>563135901anyone but zidane is fine, as long as you get both of their URs
>>563135468I only had to press one button to play Lightning in XIII I'll be damned if I have to press more than that in Dissidia.
>>563135000monster hp isn’t the problem it’s nobody bothering to chain combo and if you are your opponent will just kill you when you aren’t invincible
FFV7R3 is very inclusive.
>>563136360Based lazy bloke.
>Don't have to play the game with thirdiesNo wonder Duellum is good
Remake soon
>>563145196Why is that? Do they have their own servers or something?
>>563147053Don't engage the /pol/tard.
Better watch out for the guy who wanted a Cactuar up his ass the other day.
>>563147053It's region locked
>>563147405Leave the internet, your 'civilization' isn't worthy of it.
>>563106151Only extreme whales are nonsensically strong. You can easily play at that tier without dropping as much as a regular game. Rather drop $40 into this than Marathon.
>>563147405You struck a nerve, the fatherless is angry. His izzat demands revenge.
>>563137795A WOL/Iroha combo will delete bosses.
>>563154203Out of curiosity, how is the main character in XI called?
There is nothing wrong with the pixel remasters. Anyone who says so is just nostalgia biased.
>>563154418She's called waifu? She's you're protegee from the future that goes back to the past to save you.
>>563155081I asked "how is the main character IN XI called". Not "how is that bitch FROM XI called".
>>563154463The lack of extra content is a real turn off. You get so overpowered in FF6 but there's no real challenge, no superbosses to make all the grinding worth it. It's boring. I'd rather go back and emulate the GBA version.
>>563158459Or play romhacks that make those ancient games actually mechanically good and challenging.
>>563158561>romhackfagGet out of here
>>563158603Retard.
>>563158603Moron.
>>563158603Jackass.
>>563158603Donkey brains.
>>563158603Ugly.
https://x.com/DDFF_EN/status/2042528018468377048https://x.com/DDFF_JP/status/2042528026307760386
7R3 will have a bunch of gacha reward tie-ins and be a greedy game, unlike the first 2.
>>563158603FF6 randomizer is actually pretty fun.
>>563154463I would say they're "contrarian" rather than "nostalgia biased". The only negative thing about the PRs is the lack of additional content, but of the additional content only Soul of Rebirth was actually good/kino, so it's kinda pointless anyway.
