>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-25-2026-update.121766/post-232903>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Previous >>562851160
THEY DO LOTS OF THINGS
please buff victor please buff victor please buff victor
Sex with Venator
gay sex with apollo!
FOR THE JEAN
They really need to buff Silver, I've seen her win maybe 4 games out of the 30 or so I've seen her picked this patch it's the worst hero in the game.
>>562895895>try to draw the attractive young man hero>completely butcher the face and anatomy>post it anywayArtists shouldn't post anything until it's approved by me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rns_F10viZkfound some kino
Melee Abrams or Spirit Abrams?
>get put in viscous cube>take huge shitWhat exactly is stopping me from doing this?
The most honest heroes are paige, graves, mo and dynamo
Are you guys gonna buy skins?
>>562896250You would make Viscoos very upset
>>562896228Spirit
Haze has to be the strongest character in Oracle.
>>562896353Elaborate
>>562896040our very own dopatwo
>>562896040The way they drew Seven, it looks like a character I can't put my tongue on it.
>>562896040it's a bit quirky but I like the drifter and ivy exchangecute retard
why does doorman sound like a gay
>throw spirit snare>it barks???
guys im hardstuck archon 3 please i need a hero that can carry
>>562896040Nice.
IN A FEW SECONDS, IT'LL ALL BE OVER
RELEASE ME
yoshi is back online
>>562896308most likely, but as an investment.
>>562897554Are you from a third world country or something?
>dotards getting uppity againat least post suggestive hoodwink stuff
>>562896506>>562896228Do you want to cuck the support on your team out of "most healing"? This is what you need. Abrams is basically Victor 2.0 if he builds entirely for his siphon. You have more than enough room to fit the melee items into this if you want since there's only 3 of them anyway
Can we add Enchantress to the game already
>>562897768melee is pretty ass if you don't pick up any gun damage
stupid nigger
>We'll get some whiskey and laugh about this later, Abe.Yurisisters?! Is Silver having sex with Abrams?
>>562897886now post your stats
>>562897669She's coming
>>562897886ggs that was me sorry for playing bad but I got sleepy
>>562896943>SPIRIT snare>old native guy with spirit animal ultgonna say there's a spirit in that snare doing the barking
>go on a massive win streak>go on a massive loss streak>repeatI want to get off matchmaking's wild ride
tick tock haze downplayerstick tock
>>562895832>>562895895Faggots out of my thread. Go to reddit where you are welcome.
>>562897926Everyone is
what are the chances of a patch tonight
>>562898204hawaii bro
>>562897637something much much worse...JEW
>>562897926It's weird because I was under the impression the losing team is probably going to be dead at the end of the Ritual
I've been seeing way more griefers in my games recently. I had a haze die once in lane and call us all faggot trannys that proceeded to run it down for 50 minutes straight. And today I log on and my first game i'm laning with a kelving and he dies to their bebop twice, types gg, and then follows me around all game leaching farm and denying sinners from me. Why do these people act like tis?
>>562898264this hawaii thing is bullshit they dropped multiple patches last year in april
NEW HERO IN SECRET TEST
>>562898395is it last year?
>>562898395Yoshi didn’t attend last year
i don't go beam build on kelvin but i do put an extra point into beam early and grab mystic slow
What heroes are even good at using Blood Tribute now?
Your next Apollo, boys and girls.
>>562898642Dogshit
>>562898480>>562898482if a patch drops tonight ill laugh at you non believers
>>562898642im trans by the way
>>562898642>male he/himas opposed to any other kind of male?
>>562898695You didn't even have enough time to read it, though.
>>562898710https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase
>>562898642>meowa tranny definitely came up with this
Sex with this poster >>562898129
>>562898642>grenade on 1I approve, patching him int. Yoshi
please god yoshi i need a landmine champion give me techies give me teemo shrooms
>Blocks your path
>>562899253He gets to fuck Graves and y'all don't btw
i understand now that arcane surge is a good itemi also understand that i'm a retard who forgets to use it all the time
>>562898793Yeah, a they/them male (attention whore).
>>562899253*heavy melees you*
>>562899468>*explodes for 1000 damage*
>>562899431I only remember to use it on Graves
>>562899431It's part of the secret Chinese Drifter build (duration + surge on his ult means it's lights out for 16 seconds for the enemy team)
>>562899431every stat on it is a good stat and its supremely cost efficientyou get 4k of stats under the condition of [shit you were going to be doing anyway]
>>562898642This is so obviously made by a female to male tranny that it's not even funny
>>562899635*counterspells you*
>>562898829a foid from chinese taipei designed it.
Deadlock seems to specifically put your banned hero as your enemy laner. Therefore tonight I will be banning Abrams and unbinding my parry key.
>>562899963that makes it hoti’m kind of into it now
How is Rem atm? Is stacking pure spirit and damage on him throwing?Overall my winrate on Rem is 57%, it used to be a bit higher but I've been suffering loss after loss and my recent WR is dreadful, even if I'm performing consistently well. I don't know what I'm doing wrong lads. I might switch to someone that can carry a game easier, I dunno...
>>562898642>What if my fursona in deadlock!>What if my catboy OC in deadlock!God people fucking sucks shit at making deadlock OCs.
>>562897554investment?
>>562900525third worlders use the steam marketplace as their job
Need a golden age mr. incredible-esque superhero character.
>>562898642>3 straight heal abilities including auto attack healsToo heal slutty for deadlock's design.
name: lashstatus: gay
>barrel out!>BOOM>150 damage>time to do what I do best>boing>50 damage>grandpa guide my hand...>KRAKOW>100 damage>I'm draggin em!>100 damage>lasso ends>die instantlyheh...and that's why I'M the law
>>562901258I got captured by her lasso in lane today and the lasso ended in midair before she was able to drag me to her guardian
apollo riposte t3 plus duration extender guarantees 2 heavy melees, someone smart make me a build
>>562900420This game needs more hot catboys, fuck you.
Reminder to blame the enemy, since they are the root of all your problems, not your team mates
i like the cthulhu hero called blight that one dude came up with
>>562901886Catboy twink niggers are one of the most annoying faggots to appeal to.
>>562901908I mostly abide to this but sometimes it's really a "We would have won if our drifter wasn't constantly teleporting behind the full HP McGinnis at 200 HP."
>>562901886I am literally dating a faggot and I fucking despise le twink catboy shit because its always the fantasy of eitherA. some disgusting fujoorB. some 400 pound land whale
>>562902350Those are the same thing
god I wish I were a disgusting fujo's twinkmeat
We need an Arthas/Lich king adjacent character
>>562902443Why not a disgusting yume's
>>562902428They are not mutually exclusive, correct
>>562902490yumes are cute and lovely romantics. they deserve love and tender treatmentfujos are disgusting and foul incarnations of lust. they want nothing more than to dress you up in a cheap ali cosplay and ride you into their girlcum crusted matress
>>562902743what about a fujo yume
whats the average rank in this game
>>562902825
>>562902947eternus
>>562902947Fungal Wart IV
the more i play this game the more i dislike it defeats feel more and more boring and dragged out and wins dont give that much dopamine either. do i just quit
why are people expecting a patch today anyway?
>>562903139Yes
why do people care so much about ranking up as if when the game launches it will get flooded with so many shitters >oracle will just end up in eternus
>>562903139>he doesn't love playing his main regardless of outcome disloyal ho
>>562903139are you amosa? pocket?
There's way too much massive AoE/Massive CC in this gameEvery single fight is just giant lane wide AoEs being tossed
>>562903534if drafts were balanced this wouldn't be an issueit's hell when enemy team has bomb paradox, ivy and lady giest
I for one look forward to the sea of unwashed third worlders I'll get to shit stomp to feel better about being mediocre at best
>>562903224every time people think the meta sucks (which is every meta) they hope for a patch.
>>562903224i need victor buffs
>>562903331Some people are desperate to see the light at the end of the tunnel where they get smart teammates and good matchmaking (they won't) and some people are just desperate to have some kind of progression mechanic because the battle pass and daily and weekly missions aren't a thing
I really just don't understand how to build ParadoxBomb meme only gets you so far and I can't ult anything when my team is fucking around and not staying with me
>>562902743himejoshis >>>>>
>>562902947wood iv
>>562904108bomb meme is the only way to go
April 7 Deadlock update -Apollo: Model size refactored-Abrams: Weapon spread adjusted-Bebop: Base movement speed increased by 0.01% per hour beginning at 30 min-Wraith: Hanged from a streetlamp
>>562904449>Wraith: Hanged from a streetlampThis is a teaser for the upcoming Klansman hero being added soon
>>562902743>they want nothing more than to dress you up in a cheap ali cosplay and ride you into their girlcum crusted matressoh no the horror, hahaha...GOD I WISH THAT WERE ME!!!!!
Where's the Silver bulge mod?
>get rusnig aimbotting haze on team>lose anyway because he's a rusnig that can't stop himself from running in 1v6I want every single russian nigger to die painfully and this ontologically makes me a morally good person.
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-concept-kinko-the-nine-tailed-wrestler.124298/Your next silver, ladies and gentlemen...
>>562904850goddamnit i thought that was the update
>>562904560Trust me. They smell like shit, they weigh 500 pounds, and they're very ugly and pimply. Female version of ugly bastards.>But that's even hott-It's gross as fuck in reality.It's like that one brap fag who got a girl to actually fart in his face and it turned him gay.
community servers, pve mode, street brawl and competitivei see the vision
>>562904850A wrestler would be cool.
>>562904850AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ENOUGH WITH ALL THIS TRANNY FURRY FETISH SHIT KILL ALL FURRIES AAAAAA
>>562904691FAT LABIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>562904995meanwhile yumes are usually ana-chansdelicious ribs...
whenever I lose due to the team not heeding the call for a free midboss to close the game I don't feel bad about the loss because those faggots deserve to lose.
>>562905191
I CAN'T CONTAIN IT ANY LONGER
>>562905542What rights?To molest children?
>>562904850>tfw want to submit a character idea but it would be drowned under furshit, weebshit, and gayshitI highly doubt anyone at Valve reads that shit anyway
graves is so skinny she must have a 2 inch thigh gap yummy
>>562905575he really is the perfect man
I was the mpv as gravesJust doing some noob bullet spirit damage "build"
>>562905585>>562904850They usually just steal ability/kit concepts or general character ideas. I.E fencers/werewolf/etc...but they WILL drop your shitty OC or completely overhaul it to being completely different.
>>562905542it’s true not all furries are trannies but all trannies are furries with their disgusting puppygirl abdl shite
>haze is missing
maybe if I post more inane retardation with a cute girl attached I'll get more (you)s this time!!!!
>delicious ribs...drifter…
>>562905784>Abrams has Veil Walker!>Abrams is missing!!!Had this in one of my games where the Abrams was fed.Genuine horror game at that point.
>>562905784avoid posting my wife here thanks
i wonder if they'll rework haze ult into maybe she gets 3x damage for 10 seconds or something so she has to aim but that might be worse than the current ult
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>>562906269It would turn into one person being the sacrificial lamb while everyone else scatters like rats or hard focuses her which is still way fucking better than le field of death
if a walker dies and no one is near it is the "being near it when it dies bonus" lost?
>>562903331I've mentioned this to people in my games where they're stressing out on losing/gaining rank. They're responses are that they think when the game launches they'll be the rank they were in the closed alpha.
>>562905521do you have the gremlin karyl image that has a question mark
>>562905903>tfw I main drifter and love sticc girlsneed a cute skelewife to feed gumbo to and farm stacks with
>lane is against a Graves and PaigePlease just kill me. What a fucking awful experience. Please delete these fucking characters
>>562906869how does someone see that every time a major patch comes out yoshi needs to do a rank redistribution since the average player continues to get worse over time and think yeah i'm gonna be the same rankfucking delusional
>>562906306>Yoshi-san, it's feeling awfully cold in this bed, won't you warm me up...>What? No of course not, I must read this Bebop suggestion from costanzalopez2005, it's a very pressing matter.
which high mmr rem posts here? celi?
>>562907291well there's me
>>562901604you know you're hardstuck when you start recognizing other oracle players in another anon's post
I play Silver, Warden, and Wraith.Guess my cock size.
>>562905610every time I see graves totter into lane on her weak, osteoporotic, 5 inch diameter stick legs, I get a raging erection and get visions of pounding her as she watches her stomach bulge in entranced fascination until I fill her womb with a higher caloric density than her stomach has felt all week
fuck this gamesee you all when the next major update drops :)seeker ii btw before anyone asks
>>562907726I've seen enough, nerf Silver
>get silver on enemy team>winAhh thank you force 50 I love these free wins
>>562907291what is high mmr
why do people say dynamo is a wholesome chungus he's literally willing to murder other people to get his body back even though his current body is fine
>>562907779based
guys i really think there is going to be a patch tonight
>>562908278
I'M DOING IT
>>562908278he loves his wife and wants his body so he can have sex with herits not a selfish desire if its for his wife
I need more characters like Doorman. No damage. No need to optimize farm. Just pure disruption and kidnapping.
>>562908278He has funny lines when he's on a killstreak
This game would be perfect if players had literally any consequences for being greedy, being over aggressive or over extending. Any other video game would smack you in the face and immediately tell you to cut that shit out or lose for being retarded.
>>562908657your cute dwarf (currently single)?
>graves is a "normal high school girl" who found a lich hand>can easily tank 10 headshots with a shotgun at point blank
I was told there'd be a patch today
>>562908710Dwarves? In my Hellboy noir mysticism?
>>562908731It's Magic bitch I ain't gotta explain shit.
>>562908841dwarf (medical condition) with a sheriff badge (this is why SHE'S the law)
How do you stop a fed Vyper?
NO MORE GAMES*jumps towards own base to escape*
When I find who I'm looking for, I'm not bringing them in. I'm putting them down.*misses lasso and jump pads towards own base to escape*
>>562909025Give her the Lash
>play Silver>winsimple as
>>562895662I want to do a cool cosplay like this but the only black guy in game is Infernus. What do?
>>562909245Make sure to have a fire extinguisher nearby in case of emergency
>>562909245infernus is cool as fuck what are you complaining aboutif you think a white/blue/red/mottled and rotting character is cool then just cosplay them. that one white infernus pulled it off well
>>562909239This has literally never happened in the history of Deadlock
>>562909245Just do black doorman anyway.
>>562909245Infernus is cool nigga
>>562908776I was also told there'd be end of civilization tonight
>>562906306>>562907128It's only 5 in hawaii
>>562905728Congrats, /sp/anon. Hope you feel better.
i have a forced 50/50 with victor right now
>>562908592i guarantee you he's cheating
>>562909618They've been saying that for the last century bruhPatches are real even if they only come every Full moon
I wish I was Dynamo so bad in this situation...
>>562909245cross-dress and be Wraith, zesty buck
>>562908950No thanks. Worthless hero that bounces around and does nothing. Literally nothing.
>>562909870>forced 50>4 losses 8 winsthat's 75/25
>>562909245Do what you want dont listen to the haters
>>562909239what is it about her face that makes it look copy-pasted
>>562910321you literally asked for a character that does nothing other than disruption and kidnapping
>>562910610I accept your concession.
I don't think I've ever seen a Haze buy trophy collector before but the enemy team Haze did, guy got like 2 stacks on it before the game ended
>>562910610She doesn't disrupt and her kidnapping is garbage. I also accept your concession.
>>562909245Bro the first person to cosplay Infernus was a white dude (siractionslacks). Just cosplay whoever.
yoshi better buff victor tomorrow morning or else.
>>562910328Every game you win is a loss for someone else and a delayed loss for youEvery game you lose is a future loss to offset their winIn this manner all games are forced 50/50, and it is only a matter of time
>>562909245Infernus is a real nigga fr fr no cap
>>562909239>post Silver>winI love her so much
>>562910758hazes that don't have slowing hex, surge of power, burst fire, unstop are generally shit and don't even know how to play her (you just stack attack speed for ult)
My performance has been pretty dogshit for a week but the game refuses to demote me from Asc 1. I want to have fun with the game again.
>>5629077125 inches.
>>562911225It's time to make a smurf buddyDeranking genuinely seems to be impossible you lose a few games in a row and the game puts gluesniffers on the enemy team
my rem bought a majestic leap and used it for running around the map
>massive loss streak in standard>play brawl today>win win win win win>mfw wasted all my forced win playing brool
Man it feels so weird to win a game where you're playing like shit. Missed every doorman combo, lost lane, only got like two pickoffs the entire match. Basically just stole enemy sinners, ran urn and used cursed relic and still won, but felt like i should have lost
When are we getting the straight white male 18 year old aura farm self insert character
>>562911587All games are 50/50 and don't seem to depend much on personal performance at all
>>562911513Gotta farm as much as possible, those sinners and trophy stacks wont get themselves
>>562911674thats apollo
>>562911674your doorman?
>>562911674warden is right there
Parry has got to be the most trooncoded mechanic in the game.
>>562910948Damn, that's actually fire, holy shit.
>no skyrunner, no trapper, no cadencegive them NOW
>>562911829Nah movement is>Most trans game in existence is called Celeste and it's a speedrun platformer >The character that gets to fly around the map nonstop and who trans people really like is also called Celeste
nerf haze ult already why is she an ult bot again my god
>>562911674That's victor, and he got gutted last patch.
15 minutes until patch
if only there were an item that countered haze that you could purchase
>>562912103Just make it so ALL channeled ults cannot use items during. Viscous has a unique feature that lets him use abilities and items during ult, keep that but only for him
>>562911482its testing your rank confidence you're supposed to deliberately throw those games to destabilize your rank confidence so it'll actually adjust you
Vindicta is bugged in that her 4 second Assassinate reward buffer is actually .5 seconds
>>562912237retard so now all channels just get countered by knockdown instantly and those characters all are F tier
i got told i suck to be fair i dont know how to play bepop no kills tank
>>562912382rebb needs to cosplay vyper or ivy next deathy slam
>>562912382I love reb, she saved warframe but also turned it into fag + woman shit at the same time.
>>56291237590% of channels already prevented you from using items during them, it was only like, Haze and Bebop who can use them in the middle.
>got an account notification that a profile I reported get bannedLiterally never seen this happen before and I've reported hundreds of account buyers in dotaDo the steam mods actually give a shit about this game?
>>562912870its the future of all multiplayer games so yea they should care
>>562912870What did you report them for
>>562912870I got notifications on some reports in Dota. But nothing here
I wish Celeste wasn't a tranny magnet. Love me a bubbly jersey slag
do you guys think it's okay for me to write cheats if I have a microscopic shrimp penis? i asked my rabbi and he said it was okay
>>562913027Aimbotting and auto parry scripts>>562913165Not in game in dota but actually on steam, never seen this shit before
>>562913212you are feeling 1% of the pain that normal mina and silver fans feel every day
>>562913240>if I have a microscopic shrimp penis?put it in permanent chastity
>>562913397celeste it's time to stop posting
>Get teamed with three "women" that are just "vibing">LoseMany such cases
I just won another game of echo dagger haze :D
>>562913671omg just let people enjoy things incel
>>562913352You know I didn't feel sympathy for silver and mina bros until I started taking a likin to Celeste. Can't do so much as post a picture without getting accused of chopping your cock off
>>562913671You should've carried them they would've sent you nudes
>>562895832Calm down Mina!
I pinged going in and then missed my lasso oh god its so over everyone is laughing at me the hidden king is laughing at me fuck fuck fuck
SENDING BEETLE
>>562914128So..........beetles.....
>>562905728We need Valve to bring Alysa into the studio to take thousands of face pics from different angles, similar to what they did when designing the lfd2 cast.
>>562913934This reads like tranny roleplay
How do you play melee Calico? Won't people just parry heavies on reaction?
>pick billy>rush crushing fists and third rank upgrade on bashdown after second on blasted>double bashdown enemies for like 350 each cast>they whiff parry>heavy melee them >gun them down while they have negative bullet resistAt what rank does this stop working?
>>562914749same as billy90% of the time you weave lights inbetween abilities
>>562914860as soon as the enemy collects 800 souls
>>562913671Blame valve for not having a proper ranked queue yet. If they did people like that would just play norms forever.
>>562914892Doesn't work on bashdown also once they waste it I rape them
>>562914892More proof that Billy is the most honest hero in the game
>>562914885Okie dokie thanks
>notice paige is not last hitting and playing extremely passive>its a trans
playing as kelvin is honestly very fun>friend is dying>i show up from fucking nowhere and rescue beam his ass
>>562915183Paige and Rem are the premiere e-girl characters.
>>562915193Kelvin is much better rn but ive had fun doing this with viscous. Cube + punch or rescue beam feels good when you save someone
>>562915262>>562898642We need more egirl characters.
Why is Haze suddenly ruining every lobby, she wasn't even buffed
>>562915262your forgetting mina and celeste who go double negative within the first 15 minutes
>>562915334People said the same thing about gun graves btw. Just because number doesn't go up doesn't mean the character didnt get better
>>562913671Genuinely a skill issue, imagine being so pisslow you get matched with w*men
>>562915334The metaslaves found out that Haze has had a 55% winrate for the past year
Victor kept Haze in check. We NEED Victor to be good.
This art reminded me of Cadence and how she can't come out soon enough
>>562915334she was hard countered by victor
>play as victor>blush a bit when paige gives me a shield>get happy when I perform wellfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck it's like when I'm playing graves and there's an apollo on my lane
>>562915625Dynamo is another one he countered>Dynamo either kills himself or cancels ult early because his ult doesn't cancel Victor aura
>Yoshi offlineBROS
AbramsBillyM&KVictorAnyone else tick that tanky, stay alive forever bruiser itch?
>>562915334omg warp stone is such a hard item to use
>>562915736*uses refresher* THIS ENDS NOW
>>562915727dinner time in hawaii, please understand
>>562915736haze can also use warp stone
>>562915732>Anyone else tick that tanky, stay alive forever bruiser itch?Yamato
>>562915310I had a lot of fun as Viscous too. But yeah, Kelvin is a better (and also easier) support. I like them both though
>>562915909Didn't think about her, thanks
>>562915732geist
Where do I go to meet girls with personalities like Graves?
>>562916114The sex offender registry
Grave's petite body needs to be pinned underneath someone twice her size.
>>562916114High school
>>562916114working low-wage low-skill low-social jobs like night crew at a grocery store
>Realize there hasn't been any useless updates to the game either.Yeah it's actually fucking over.
>>562916181when are we going to get a fat bastard with 1 stam
I drew this in a drawthread but I think Necrophos and Drifter would be good friends if they ever met. Also, Kelvin should be nerfed.
babies can learn object permeance before the age of 1, so why cant this playerbase understand if I kill 2 and 3 are still on me thats a gaurenteed walker anytime past 15 minutes or so
Surprised we don't have a Chinese hero yet, weren't there a ton of Chinese immigrants during this time period?
>>562916181no she needs to be worshipped by MEmy bony body image complex wife... you're perfect just the way you are... but only to me, only to me...
There is NO patch, they're in HAWAII
>>562916459chinese rail worker (slave) hero that uses TNT to destroy the environment (he can blow remniggers out of their tunnels)
Gee bill, gabe gives you TWO hawaii trips in one year???
>>562916459mina is chinese
>>562916415Eron Islesion and his nameless friend
>>562916459I'm chinese
>>562916535i had this same idea a few months back, chinese railroad worker that's just a straight up ghost.. his wish is to be reincarnated into his distant relatives lamp to appease his spirit and be close to family (and finally be at rest)100% has a fu manchu and is named ping ping or some shit
>>562916154All you find there are blacks and browns.
>>562916415cutehard to imagine negrophos being friends with anything that isn't a pus leaking disease vector or at the least immune to his aids aurathe obvious bestie for drifter is blood seeker
>no hero that uses his own diarrhea as a means of speed boosting around the mapthis game sucks
Victor was literally the villain doing evil, but necessary, things to protect you from the greater evil (Haze, Mirage, Geist, Infernus, Graves).Congratulations hero, you've ended the world.Enjoy your bullet dance in the ashes I guess...
Has anyone had the bug where the server updates slowly but your client still runs fine, so your character is moving smoothly but everyone else updates only once or twice a second? it's like the server switched to a tickrate of 2. Reseting fixed it. What even causes that?
>>562917013thing is haze can (and will) whiff her ult after which she will be very weakvictor has 100% uptime on being a rape machine, his ult is just the cherry on top
>>562916459Shiv is Chinese already, he's the Sun Wukong of this game
>>562917118haze will just get reraped in the next patches anyways
>>562917118Yes, and he protected you from Haze, Mirage, Geist, and Infernus who are all significantly less interactive to fight against.
>>562916786Yeah true but they are both my mains and gross as fuck
>>562917190how is victor interactive? he just runs at you until you die
>>562917013actually the necessary evil is doorman taking all of the heat for extremely annoying nigger characters like sinclair
Spirit abrams is so cringe bro. How do they gut victor but let this shit slide?
>>562917435I'm still not very convinced spirit abrams is worth it over melee abrams.
Spirit Venator
>>562917013I seriously prefer fighting victor than the current meta Silences cuck him so hard and having good positioning as well His early and mid game are mediocre, and while Haze has it bad as well she farms so fucking fast and safely it's unreal I will admit that I'm biased as I love and play Victor so much that when I'm against one I rarely lose as making their life miserable brings me joyAlso mirages ult being 30s CD is fucking retarded not even brightwing's Z was that short
>>562916438>oh these fags shoot at the orbsping correction and last hit advantage are a memesomehow i shoot an orb only for it to be retroactively denied 200ms later
>>562917435Also I say that because melee abrams can just invest into his rape gun if he decides you need raped harder.
Green Lash
>>562917259That is significantly more interactive than the listed 4 seeing as it engages with the movement system, allows counterplay, kiting, positioning, ect.>Haze presses 4 and your hole team dies in under 3 seconds even if they bought metal skin and plated.>Mirage shoots one time every 2 seconds and your whole team takes 3,000 damage while being completely immortal.>Geist presses 2 and wins every fight from any range at any soul deficiency.>Infernus literally lands 3 bullets from his full-auto hitscan "gun" at any range and your entire team takes 3.5k burn, poison, and bleed damage.
>>562917481spirit abrams is also melee abramsspirit snatch and shit
>>562916581
>>562917818laughed like a happy retard
>>562916459unironically this game needs more diversity and im not just saying that cause i really want a jew hero with star of david chakrams and dreidel bombs
>>562917818kek
>team getting dominated >they get 3 urns 40k ahead>we win based on haze and dynamo ultsit just feels dirty
>>562917818Fuck forgot his glasses and cig don't LOOK
>>562917956outskilled
>>562917572I think Spirit Venator might be the worst Spirit build in the game, he only gets 18% resists from max spirit and his traps only do like 800-900 damage in the most ideal conditions, none of his abilities besides trap procs EE either
>>562917671I shoot orbs, it glows like it got hit then does fuck all then gets denied by the enemy
>>562918267Uhhhhhhh, Tesla, Merc MagnumActually Telsa doesn't seem that terrible for him. Good way to proc stuff like healbane and BRS. Assuming they didn't update to allow Pure damage to proc them which I doubt
>>562918267you should just grab a duration and arctic blast, going into spirit damage is dumb but there are other spirit items that are crazy good on him. scourge is pretty op right now
>>562918267spirit should scale trap duration
>>562918957capacitor to set up the shotgun trap combo is fun
>>562918978oh also extra charge and maxing grenade asap is really strong
Rebuttal shouldn't exist.
>>562918267>his traps only do like 800-900 damage in the most ideal conditions,they're traps (cc) though, and you can stack them on top of each other or just spam them all over the place. yeah it's still a troll build but you can get top damage with it in shitlow assuming the enemy team isn't composed of lash celeste and perma ulting bebop seven and ivy
>>562919560how badly did you just get disrespected
>>562919613I play around it, but I shouldn't have to.
DIE YOU LITTLE RUNT
>>562919560>gamble with parry>eat a heavy>parry is back for the next heavy attempt>trade my 200 health for a killand I've already made back my 800 investment cost
>>562919684just go back to overwatch dawg they added lootboxes and some more goonbait i think you'd love it over there
>>562919795>>562919828>parryingYou're not good at video games.
>>562919560rebuttal works on viscous' punch, right? means the damage gets returned to him
>>562919917don't need to be>Fget parried dweeb
>hook + punch gives you +60% weapon damage>"people" still build spiritthis will never make sense
>>562919917you think you're a genius cause you hold Q buddy? well i think im a genius cause i press F. get fucking owned, do not reply
We need him in the game
>>562920632>gun sucks in 90% of scenariosbuilding gun is retarded but not hitting the break point to finish people off is also retardedinstead of being an all or nothing bomb bot, just take your displacement and burst then finish people off with some gun splash
>>562920817we need him in the game
>>562920804>looks away>holds q againget fucked retard
we need her in deadlock
>>562920920>wake up>no patch
losing because we overextended in their base after taking the first half of patron
>>562920953>double jumps away while shooting you in the dumb face
>>562921191>No one on his team called "Back away after 1st phase"
rank me up rank me up rank me up rank me up
>enemy shiv has most deaths but also most soulswhat
>>562921420its called trophy collector bub
>>562921036This, but her instead.
>>562921494he didn't buy trophy collector thoughbeit
>>562913671Bro I just play 30-60 minute competitive multiplayer games with 11 other people for the chill vibes!!!
>>562920850who said anything about gun, you build melee
we need her in the game
Celeste!
We need her in the game
Here's your Rem lane partner (he likes to rush lightning scroll)
>>562921245lacked the game sense to make the call honestly, next time it will work out
>>562921821>toothgapMy dick
they put me in the game twice btw
why are we dead? say something
>>562910992
>>562922878something
>>562922895My wife is so cute
>ban mirage>he's been in my last 4 gamesgettin tired of playing against this cunt.
Is Mina vs Bebop the most hopeless lane matchup in the game? What is a worse one?
brooling is fun
>>562923660you vs me, you've got no chance haha gottem
>>562922878rate my vindicta gameplayhttps://files.catbox.moe/ld5z5o.mp4
>>562922878Sorry Americans RUN THIS GENERAL but most of us are all tuckered out after a long day of burger harvesting
It's crazy how easily urn deliveries can turn the game around when your team is playing like shit.
>come out of laning phase massively ahead>as hollidayhahahere I go carrying this game!
you should be able to parry parriesyou cant stop people from tower parrying
>>562924159its called shoot them in the head while they're locked in the parry animation
>>562909245>below average white dude>high value Asian femaleHow?? I'm average at worst and I'm 6'6, yet no oriental bitches.
>>562924249when you get out of poop ranking people do it at the end of an air dash that they're using to get closer to you to kill you.
ugh.... SOVL!!! bring them back yoshi
>Deadlock has the type of "art" community that draws every woman like a manSad
Mina x Silver
>>562924639Wraith's bugged eyes were great, Valve is genuinely retarded for not realizing it. Then they needed us to throw a shitfit to keep them from ruining Viscous and Ivy, it goes to show that old Valve's designers are gone.
>>562923660Why would Mina VS Bebop be particularly bad?Anyways the most obnoxious lane for me is one of the close range fatfucks like M+K or Abrams VS one of the flying snipersBasically forces me to rush phantom strike or do nothing the whole laning phase
>>562924819*flips*
>>562924974>>562924708Kek it's true
>>562924708Blame Reddit
>>562924639Geist looks like she gives a mean blowjob.
>>562924853In general he's just a big target and easy to farm your passive on. Bebop can't do anything to mina since she can just dodge every bomb. Everytime you get hooked, it is just a free love bites + rake then bat away which dodges all the damage.
>>562924570If someone can towerdive to kill you then you fucked upI always get so fucking annoyed when a lanemate decides to hover near our tower on sliver HP because now I have to try and stop them from getting dove on and I know I probably won't succeed
>>562924708Your fault for not gatekeeping the "gay sex with male character!" and Silver/Mina/Paige AGPs tbqh
>>562925846I've probably done it more than you tbqhngldesuwagozaru
>>562925872If you have then based and I kneel, keep up the good work but clearly we will both have to work harder
>>562926012I'm ready for the wicked
Playing Billy and I'm repeatedly trying to 1v3 back our lanes when my entire team is spread out at the other side of the map without the lanes even pushed
>>562912334That was a hotfix anon
>>562915183Ur supposed to dominate and tell them what to doTheyll cum in their cages
Celeste getting nerfed was the best thing for this game
All the new gimmicky niggerfaggot heroes flip flop between OP or worthless because they have inherently shit designs
>>562922045You mean she?
bros, I can not win in this game playing Minahttps://tracklock.gg/players/232306118I get some actual 0 game player or someone who AFKs and hits jungle creeps and then we lose. This literally only happens when I play mina. I started playing this game like 2 weeks ago btw
Buff Vyper why is she so fucking bad
>>562927440>hard carry>loss>hard carry>loss>hard carry>lossoh my lol
>>562927440Mina is a lane winner, but not a game winnerShe just falls off too hard in late game to solo carry games
>>562927440i don't remember making this post, some people are just too hard to carry. right now i'm dealing with a 5/14 venator at 30 minutes
>>562927490She is good you are just really bad
>>562927980I looked online and it said there's hero specific mmr so I guess when I play mina I'm the best player in the lobby and I have to carry someone who goes 0/15. I looked on that website and there was a match where it says I'm 2k mmr and there was someone with 200 mmr in the lobby.
By the way I used to play dota and it was the same shit. Everyone in the lobby has 400 games but one player in the game has 3. Basically every game I play with a silver or victor on either team is like that.
>>562928023why you gassing up a c tier character
Shivbros what's the next step of our master plan?
>>562927490375067 use that
>get paradox nigger in my lane>they do nothing (as usual) and it's a 1v2>eventually just rotate into another lane and help someone who pinged their lane>guardian in paradox's lane falls IMMEDIATELY and they RQ>get to leave without my MMR being tankedproblem solved. seriously, paradox niggers are so fucking bad it's unreal
>>562928292This game also does the shit dota does where the party queue is a real account + an obvious smurf but it gives one side a real high mmr player + a total noob.
>>562928364Crashing this game, with no survivors
>silver keeps overextending for a kill>each time I pull her out with rescue beamkeep your dog wives on a short leash
buff graves gun dps why does it tickle compared to like warden or haze
>>562929251auto aimnext question
Does the "super serious matchmaking" button actually do anything? Also what's the the good Sinclair build? I just build melee because it's funny
>3 anchors >giga 20 deaths anchor>RQer>2 RQersdoes it get any better outside of pisslo? this is getting ridiculous, i just want to play with competent people
Do you think yoshi dreams of deadlock?
So do tf2 CCs still seethe about the game?
>>562927440INITIATEGAWDPlay Drifter.
I have an addiction to playing Lash on street brawl. I haven't queued for a regular match in like 2 weeks.
Updated my graphics drivers but I forgot the new drivers are the ones with DLSS 5 ai upscaling rapecattle shit slop
Graves and Apollo should be studying, not killing people for Patrons
>>562931308>nvidia
guys who is the hardest of hard carries, i'm in 1v9 hell
>>562931749Haze
I am addicted to melee ivy The rush of the first charged melee...do they have their parry bound? It is a mystery to be solved with one held down key press. In shitlow the answer is always coinflip. A stun. I lost the flip. Or did I? The other laner parried too slow. Bad connection or low iq. Either way I have found my prey. His delayed reactions have made me fat. I fly to the next lane to gorge on more weaklings...
Valve is actively looking for ways to get tidehunter into the game
>queue during the day/evening>win streak and everyone is relatively positive>queue at night>loss streak and everyone is seething constantly
>>562932050eu is shit, why do you think all the eu streamers vpn to american servers
>>562931749KDA and MVP means nothing. You could be a bigger issue for your team than the nigga with 23k damage if you're picking fights at the wrong time and playing incorrect macro. One over-extension late game can solo lose a perfectly winnable game too.
>>562919684>i play around itif you were, it wouldn't bother you. i love niggers like you who think i won't predict your light melee when you're literally dashing into me
>>562932323I'm na though
>>562932323????????EU has higher skill requirements for the same MMR. applies to both deadlock and dota
>>562932330Damage is the most meme stat most of the time honestly, there are so many heroes that get to inflate that stat while doing nothing to the team.
>>562932570My favorite is Pocket players that jerk themselves off over damage
>>562932505the comment chain is 2 replies long, try reading it again slower
>>562932330this. CC, heal reduction and map control are higher impact and won't show on your score board
>>562932330I regularly get mvp being the macro focused 20k damage player aldoughbeit
>tfw too retarded to play DoormanI want to make people seethe with weird door angles and kidnapping too...
>>562932894Here let me give you a quick doorman tutorial3>2>M1>2
I like how buying tier fours makes that unique sound effect compared to other items
>>562915193I’ve been having a lot of fun as Dynamo>stomp is good>teleport can save people from death if you use it well>healing is always good>ult is incredibly strongHe’s so good to have on your team
>>562932050>>queue during the day/evening>>win streak and everyone is relatively positiveits mostly solos playing>>queue at night>>loss streak and everyone is seething constantlyits mostly stacks playing
>>562912939LOL can barely retain 100k players this shit is DOA like highguard, only reason people play it is because it's valve and presumed to get at least twice as playable (it wont).
>>562933252Of course he’s fun to play, he’s blatantly overpowered as fuck
Sex with Sinclair
>>562895704
>>562932323>>562932505You would drown in OCE.
>>562897396but you are in the game doom, you even get to do less damage than everyone here too!
>>562933641Savannah…
>>562933641Normies are so cringe
>>562924708>"art" community that draws every woman like a manIt's mostly yaoi artists that do this shit, they can't properly draw a woman even if their lives depended on it
>>562933536>"barely 100k players">closed testing>no marketing>not even reviews>barrier to entry is higher than if they charhed 60$inb4 there's no barrier the game is freenormies will shy away from your game if the only way to access it is to friend some random indonesian and wait between 10 min and 5 hours for an invite
>>562933924Confucius once said: A lifetime businessman will always default to reading the words "need dough" as such but a baker will read it as "knead dough"
>>562898065the only thing that's upsetting to me is it's like>win a game where I had to actually try>win a super AIDS game 40+ minutes long>at least 3 people feed 0-6 in lane, lose the entire game because not enough people care about macro and the snowball just gets bigger>repeat this 3 more times>finally win a game into retards who end the game 0-10 each>start getting hard games again immediatelyit's like it's literally just set up so that most of my wins are hard won and most of my losses are predetermined. that's what's frustrating. I literally would not be bitching if it felt like the losses were partially my fault. but I'll be like 3-0 and I got three guys going 0-7 out of lane and they decide to keep fighting with massive networth disadvantage even though I ask them not to. they're always fighting in enemy jungle too.
>First game on my Shiv runs it down a sidelane and dies while begging us to open>Next game one of the enemy lanes has a collective 20 deaths by midgame Is forced 50 real?
>>562928865Paradox is just unbelievably weak right now and hard to get much done unless you're a specific setup in lane. Gun is shit, carbine is shit, bombs are decent but impossible to consistently get good damage from, and the swap is just not that good unless, as i said, you have a lane partner to combo with like Mo or something. The walls are inconsistent and rarely do much work on lane.Paradox is viable in pro matches because the entire lineup is organized around getting good swaps, but as a solo Paradox she's not good.
>>562901908in principle this makes sense but in practise my shiv/drifter being 2-14 is definitely on him because he's permanently trying to 'gank' people in the enemy jungle when they're stacked as 4 farming.
I wanna play more heroes other than Dynamo and Venator.Is Abrams good? I played him at the start but he feels weak and everyone knows how to parry. Also what about Apollo and Lash?
>>562934421Maybe you should contest their farm with them, noob.
>>562903635geist doesn't actually do anything unless she's on a gun build. trvke mode.
>>562934540Apollo is an early game menace but does almost nothing by the late game. Lash is a unique character who can do damage and also set up teamfights with his ult. I'd suggest lash for overall fun but apollo is a pretty good early game stomper especially in low mmr
>>562934540You go full spirit and green as Abrams, he's an amazing drain tank. Only punch if you've stunned someone with your wall charge
>>562934269Yes after I won like 5 games in a row the game put me with a gallery of retards with team kill score going like 3 - 32 in like 25 minutes
>>562904706a morally good person buys rescue beam and greater expansion and communicates the haze is hacking and works with the enemy team to kidnap haze and kill them on repeat so they commit suicide irl
>>562907779seekergawd nooooo
Rape with Mina
>>562934540spirit build Abrams atm is pre nerf Victor lite, infinite sustain if you arent getting bursted by multiple people, plus you have two really good CC options with the charge and the ult
>>562916438alcoholic russian retards were never taught this skill because their parents hate them and never played with themhope this helps!
>>562934283idk why they would ever give heroes a swap ability without any kind of defensive effects coupled withinlike... a 200hp barrier, at base? that's it?? unless this is their idea of trying to force Diviner's Kevlar as a mandatory buy for her just to surviveor if the whole idea is doing 'suicide swaps' and trading your life for two or more kills, then she should at least have some disposable Murky-esque trait tied to her ulther whole kit is weird and lacks synergy
>>562931901you know you can just HMC with stoneform right
Reminder that Haze, Shiv, and Vindicta have the most dishonest players
>>562920632Gun is cringe, why would I play this game if I wanted to shoot people? There are actually good shooter games with cool guns out there.
>>562934554yeah bro I should look at my 0-7 drifter 8 minutes in and spend my entire game running it down with him because clearly he's competent
Ya guys think Victor cosplay Pocket could be good?Duration, EE, Infuser, Range. >Inb4 this is how he's already played!Then I apologize in advance. I barely played this guy and it was only on BROOL. I sucked at Puck back in the day so I never really went ahead and played Pucket.
>When the GT player gets a little too confident and tries to press the W key for once in his life
>>562935112How likely that this has imbedded malware? I want every cheating shitter to have their PC turned into a bitcoin mining rig.
>>562935224source on this image?
>>562935225very likely
>>562935203youre gonna lose anyway if you dont help him why not try iti've been that hard feeding drifter and if at any point a teammate came with me to help pressure the enemies I'd have inverted my KDA. But my team would rather sit around hitting a jungle camp as I get chased down any time I show myself on a lane
>>562935225oh it 10000000% has cryptobot scripts, but it still an aimbot so thirdies will use it and make (You)r lobbies dogshit.
>>562935361Down the hall and to the left
>>562935149both gun and spirit are cringe, I flay around as gray talon and grab people with my rescue beam
>>562901908yeah bro it was totally "holy shit that venator is so good!!!" and not "he got fed by 2 retards for the first quarter of the match and now he is cleaning house"
>>562935364>>562935420Good to know, thank you anons I will taunt cheaterniggers over the fact their system is compromised.
>>562935387I'll try to be as nice as possible in saying this. If at any point in lane after dying like twice you didn't think to play more defensively and try recover and not feed a bigger lead, I don't think you're going to suddenly swing back in the midgame where you're no longer playing against 2 people, but 6. Like why would that make sense, that you struggled into even networth, fed a huge lead, now you're gonna play into that huge lead solo in the worst position imaginable with no communication and just expect that someone else will carry you through it? Fuck it, you're retarded.
>>562935605Unfortunately I need to do it because my team is bad and they will jungle all game instead of making plays. So i will continue taking risks with the current HP burn and hope I can turn it around. Drifter can beat most heroes 1v1 even at a networth disadvantage
Why can’t rebuttal cost more?Disarm Hex doesn’t cost 800.Metal skin doesn’t cost 800.Counterspell doesn’t cost 800.
>>562935935counterspell should be removed from the game. buy an ethereal shift fuckers.
counterspell should trigger rebuttal
*click*
>>562934967>chargeCd as long as silver's ult and fucks up a lot>ultYou really should not use this ever it is trash and will often get you killed
At what rank do people start buying dispell magic
>>562935971Pussy. Counterspell is one of the best items in a video game ever.
>>562935935busted barrel costs 800slowing hex is 1600 and it silences half the spells in the game, including some ults
>>562936301Didnt Rem say he was born like yesterday or some shit
>>562936301is Calico some anglo negress or what?
>>562936301Venator is Irish
>>562936301Grey talon was likely born on tribal land before the 14th amendment if he's 70~ years old. He'd be a naturalize citizen
Why did they decide to give Vyper the worst gimmick possible
>>562935361https://nitter.poast.org/disgustingtokki/status/1953809725193069013nsfw artist fyi
>250 hours in>still too afraid to play minaand then there are people who pick her for their first game..
>>562936890based and thanks
>>562936713But her gimmick's funny as fuckI can't remember another character who's a shameless, unabashed utter slag like her but still actually funny and loveable in spite of that
>>562936443Yes, obviously? Have you heard her voice? Are you slow?
>>562937037Oh I meant the gameplay gimmick of having to slide constantly, I love the character itself
>>562937062i mentally block out her voicelines whenever im laning with her, and only played her once while in a VC, so yeah ive spared my self the displeasure of listening to the anglo negress
>>562937081Play spirit Vyper then
>>562937314That sounds incredibly bad but I just might
>>562936240>farm for like 5 minutes>can now dodge every single ult in the gamenot balancedremove it
>>56293696490% of Minas feel like a free win for me. If you suck you wont be alone
>>562937461>can dodge curse and every other projectile active
>>562937461have you tried being less predictable? most ults aren't telegraphed. you can easily bait a counter if you're not retarded
Does the channel time for Lash's ult increase with duration extending items / abilities
>>562937615Yes for range, dunno about duration
>>562937593not having this argument. the utility for the price point is retarded.
>>562909332>>562909421He's cool for sure, but I'm not sure I'd be able to pull it off.>>562910948This guy does it really well though. Maybe I'll give it a shot.
>>562937461>bro just make lash have 70% winrate
Who’s next on the nerf chopping block?Please let it be Graves
>>562937832Wraith
>>562924639Way more visually clear than what the fuck is going on rn
>>562937769most people are too retarded to buy or actually use counterspell even in eternus, plus it goes on a pretty long CD when it actually procs.
>>562937832If it's not dynamo i'll be shocked, quantum does way too much atm.
>>562937832>Haze>Dynamo>Mirage>KelvinIf these are left untouched I might just quit.
>>562937832Dynamo apollo celeste haze
>>562935225Nah cheaters are just doing it as charity for shitters that can't git gud.
>>562937832As much as I love my boy, I know Dynamo’s going to be hit hard with nerfs. >>562937971Yea probably for this. Although it is so fucking fun to snipe niggas for a gorillion damage with mystic expansion
>>562938046>apolloIs it so hard to buy hex and spirit red
They should buff Lash by removing the reduced damage scaling past 25m
>>562938158>stuns you for 3s every 10s AND reduces your melee resistance by 50%, then heavy melees you twiceHeh nothing personal
>>562937832>GravesShe’s never getting nerfed. Just abandon matches when you play against her
>>562937769>i'm retarded and i get filteredanon, other players aren't mind readers. if they can predict you ulting, (you) can predict them countering. you can even throw a busted barrel at them, to make sure it goes on cooldown
>>562937802it's really weird how he never had this winrate when the item didn't exist. almost like people countered him by playing close to places they could LOS and using warp stones...
>>562938290*counterspells*
>>562938538yeah lash is just not fun now people can play retarded and ignore youprobably necessary since he's still really strong but still dont like playing him because of it
How can you get to E6 and still be completely broolbrained
>>562937971would you say heal is worth kinda skipping then? like would you go max stomp, max quantum max ult? or do you still not give a shit about ult t3?
>>562938158yes cause riposte still procs and teleports him a million miles away any direction he pleases while he's hexed. and it's on a 10s cd. don't downplay. he gets to use a movement iframe ability on such a low CD and it's not countered by hex.>>562938730stacks boosting them like how 90% of niggers climb eternus
>>562937832Silver, 100%
>>562938608also people used to literally build ethereal shift to counter lash but it was expensive as fuck. now people just buy counterspell and completely cuck your ult and all of your slams whenever his ults on cd. heroes so ineffectual. don't even need spellbreaker when counterspell exists and you learn to use it.
>>562938608Biased Lash fan here but he was already balanced by the fact he's in the air at a standstill and it's incredibly telegraphed, you'd have to be deaf and retarded not to see it coming and jump into cover. Anyway counterspell works on Lash but not Doorman? Come on now. And don't give me that "it blocks the damage" being dragged into the air doesn't damage you either, only the landing.
I am Eternus rank. Mentally but not in game. Mina is preventing me from reaching my peak
>game is balanced around buying counter items>street brawl items are randomI might actually start playing standard it's not fun to lose to the same one combo
>>562938767Most leaderboard dynamos seem to max quantum second yeh, although a few of them will max heal 3rd and not bother upgrading ult at all.
>>562938938that's strange, mina always makes me reach my peak
patch doko
>>562938767Max stomp, get the t2s of the other abilities, then quantum t3 and ult t3, depending on the matchup reverse it, in comparison healing t3 feels like a quality of life to the impact those others have.
>>562939078New patch:Silver’s werewolf model updated to include a massive futa cockGraves damage buffed by 100%Abrams now smokes two cigarettes at once
how're you supposed to know what to build in this shit game
>>562939036>and not bother upgrading ult at all.kinda wild, feels like the first two at least are worth purely for the duration and range. but I guess it's just a question of "do you want to be good all the time or just when ult is up"
>>562939154Reading the item explains the item
>>562938918ethshift used to be 3200 when people used that against lash, howeverthat's not a detail you can just omitthere's always been a 3200 counter item against lash
>>562939195I member decay being 1600
Make rusted barrel cost 1600 NOWWWW
>>562938767Not him but dynamo fag here>max stomp because it’s so fucking good>max ult if youre doing team fight buildAs for heal and teleport I’d say it’s a coin flip, but maxxing heal lets you just do everything normally while healing. If you pop shit like heroic aura and healing nova before you use your 3 you basically become super useful in a team fight and can just play normally.2 is only maxed if you need to constantly pull your retard team out of danger which always seem to be silver players from what I noticed
>>562939154BOUNDLESS SPIRIT LIGHTNING SCROLL GLASS CANNON CHEAT DEATHALWAYSBESTEST ITEMS . EVERY CHARACTER
>>562939290Cheat death is a meme unless you’re playing doorman
>>562939359I sometimes get it on Paige if lategame I'm getting bursted the moment I show up
>>562939359It's okay lategame for heroes that are bursty hit and run types with mobility
>>562939154>>562939176this but unironicallymost heroes will have at least one build that's fully annotated. read through each item and their justification of why they buy it, then play a few games w the build to see how numbers translate to gameplay.at that point you can start fucking around and making whatever sounds good since you'll know e.g. you don't ever use counterspell, or ricochet feels good as a first tier 4.
>>562939359it invalidates mina
Never use a build that isn't by a streamer or "pro" player because you can't easily fact check if the guidemaker is actually good at the game
Anyone got a spirit vyper build?
How do you play viscious, he's a lane bully sure but it's sometimes hard making an impact after that.
>slowing bullets only takes two arrows from talon to build upholy hitler, what other gun items should I get to hit 4800, I was thinking opening rounds and recharging rush then full spirit after
>>562939553I choose builds based on how funny the name of it is
Fuck metal skin, fuck warpstone, just get cheat death versus haze
Is support really a cuck role?
>>562939785Only if someone forces you to support. If you play support for fun then who cares
>>562939553>using builds at allstop doing this
>>562939785Support is the anti cuck roll. You don't understand how many players want to suck my stone cock when I stealth fly them out of a 1v3 at critical
>>562940056This. I had a silver say she would be bouncing on my dick after I carried her as Dynamo
>>562940056It's a thankless job but when they do thank you it comes from the heart
How will Valve handle the huge skillgap between the alpha players and the new players when 1.0 releases? Assuming everyone gets a rank reset.
honestly this game has gotten less fun to play with all the new heroes that are just cancerousgraves, doorman, victor when he was good, haze returning to an ult bot again for some reasonI just cant even enjoy teamfights in fucking streetbrawl
>play mokrill>can't ever BROOL, permanently stuck as lane jannyi am convinced the players in ascendant aren't any better than the ones in oracle
superhero character when?
>>562940879EXTERIOR LIKE FISH EGGS
>>562940652there will be a year of rank chaos as the new players and the old shitters slowly get forced into their real MMRs. Theres a lot of fucks in eternus atm that wont even sniff ascendant once the Koreans hit the scene.
>>562940652The initial jump will be rough but I imagine a lot of new players will climb quickly assuming they have the basics down from other games.
I only play female characters
>always thought my aim is serviceable>get AimLabs >rock bottom at everything that isn't flicking between semi-stationary targets and even that is just barely above plain badWelp. Off to maining Mo & Krill I go.I sincerely hope aiming is like most skills where you make fast early gains and then plateau until you have an epiphany.
>>562941084Tracking is the hardest part of aiming for me but it's not too difficult in Deadlock. I should get back into aimlabs, my 6 shot was ~90k
>>562939652I dunno but boy am I surprised by the damage his spit that bounces does
buff her?
>>562941084can't git gud if you don't suck first retard
>>562939952I literally information overload if I have to build items on the fly, either I make a build beforehand or I have to follow a random build with items I think are good for the hero and call it a day, which is harder than it should be as most of the top builds are complete ass
>>562937832Paradox and Shiv
>>562941176seggz her?
>>562941276>cum in her>she ults you so your jizz ends up in yourself
>>562940735>haze returning to an ult bot again for some reasonHer ult is just too good and locks you out of aiming which is a shame if you like to aim and build stacks by headshotting a lot.Also any mathematician can explain why haze shouldn't build more green items? Like a tank haze build, just to stack maxx without getting blown up if you're out of position like most haze builds
>>562941192What you need is to make your own build with items that you usually buy (core) then items that you situationally buy. Having them all visible in one page is more than enough. Left to right builds are almost always a meme unless youre like an apollo tier character that's literally a flowchart where you play the same way every game. Most characters NEED to have flexibility in order of items and defensives every game.
>>562941084I don't like aimlabs as it requires too much movement up and down which is easier with higher sens and not really applicable to anything but aimlabs, as most aiming is sideways
I make a row of T1/T2/T3/T4 items for each character I play and call it a day
How do I build Abrams? I just want big gun and big health/healing
This Haze meta is so fucking boring man they farm 25 minutes and press 4 and the game is over
>>562941707why dont you fight at 24 minutes then and take boss
>>562941889Why would you do such a thing
>>562941889I want Vyper to sit on my face
>>562942116t. Billy
Stop! You're going to invoke THAT image
>>562942030sliding sucks>>562942116same
>>562942143Post it.
>>562941889Just get spirit burn and more spirit items
>TIL Dynamo gets free bullet resist per boonfully convinced he's a self-insert donut steele for one of the devsthe character is literally masturbatory fan fiction and you can't convince me otherwise
>>562942490wtf is dih
>>562942116I can't even begin to imagine the absolute wretching smell involved
>>562942394>it's truehuh, so does Bebop, both robots so ok I guess?also saw that Rem is the only hero with innate -5 % melee resist
>>562941276I mean yeah but that's beside the point
>>562941027>yearHopefully they would have done any work to improve the MM algo. But ofc that's ridiculous. They NEED to add more deviantart inspired characters with poorly thought-out ability sets and blindly grope in the dark at balancing
>>562942641Probably like sweat, BO, and whatever trash she’s eaten
>>562942394>fully convinced he's a self-insert donut steele for one of the devsHe is shaped like Gaben and is universally respected by the cast. He even has kind of a softer spoken tone of voice like Gaben
>>562942372this seems incredibly shit but still better than having to slide around
>>562942956>Gaben character is the best character in a valve game to keep fundingBravo Yoshi
I will not tolerate Dynamo hate. He is my favorite character
>>562943140He's good but he does a little too much dmg for how tanky he is.>damage>survivability>utilityYou're supposed to pick two and he has all three.
am begging you how the fuck do you counterbuild against calico, this cunt doesn't even melee she just uses her shotgun and dashes
>>562941084stop caring about MMR. just play what you think is fun and let the game calibrate you with players who won't just stomp you
>>562943028Yoshi probably doesn't want to end up like the other canceled projects like Artifact lmao
>>562943352How much does Ivy weight? I need to go to the gym and put weights on myself to replicate this
If E6 players are so good how come they lose games?
Friendly reminder that yuri is only possible between two biological women
>>562943417Assuming she's solid stone at her relative size.. between 400-500 pounds
>>562943615>hipthrusting ~4pl8Fug :DDDDD
Sinclair
WHY THE FUCK IS VYPER BAD
>enemy Rem has 30k souls at 15 minutes>150k souls at 50 minutesGreat game Yoshi
>>562943830>A+ in EternusSimply get gud
>>562943830You need to play in a way that really abuses her sliding manIt takes time to get used to it
>>562943830You need to play around her slide. It’s hard to get used to
>>562943384You can't.>hyper mobile>high burst dmg>multiple escape tools>has self-healI have been complaining about her since launch. She, like Holliday, are designed for a coop or single player game and will continue to pendulum between useless and hyper-broken. Honestly I'm genuinely worried about game balance long-term. Yoshi et al have demonstrated a definitive lack of competence on the subject and this game would be a hard balance problem to solve for the best people. Think about it you have>stat growth from item purchases>flat stat scaling from levels>individual character ability improvements from boons>synergistic interactions with effects activated by other playersThey've created a balance nightmare. Not sure it is solvable. Brawl balance should have been improved by eliminating any level stat difference between teams, but Brawl is still an unbalanced mess for other reasons.
>>562943938>>562943946>>562944003this game would be a+ if it did not have tranny movement mechanics in itwhy can seven shit damage out his ass without sliding
>>562944136the amount of stats you get from souls is just super retarded in a game like this items should be hard to use properly not just give you tons of flat power that take zero effort to pull offhaze buying ricochet and raping everyone wouldnt be possible if they were just a little bit sane with how much straight up damage they are giving people just passively
>>562943389I wish that worked. >>562944138>I am too retarded to into the best movement shooter mechanics in a generationFucking retard.>everything i don't like is trannies! You require aid.
>>562944136for real she deals every fucking dmg at the same time, got an ult that allows so much room for error and has a god tier mobility tool in a game where APPARENTLY being good is sniffing around crates hoping your mates janny for towers
>>562944138>Late game hyper carry with a very abusable ultVS>Early to mid game terror that can also scale decently into late game by abusing armor piercing bug You'd be a+ if you learned how to play.
>>562943770This image was made by a woman
>>562944428if i didn't have to be gay to play vyper i would learn
>>562943389I'm only joking about maining Mo, I find him boring as shit. I just hate seeing people get away because I choke the last shot. Plus, it's fun to improve at things.>let the game calibrate you with players who won't just stomp youI fucking wish it worked like that. It's not me getting stomped, it's the other lanes. If I go on a long loss streak and the game drops lobby rank it just turns into a lottery who gets fed 15 kills in lane and snowballs into a win. I somewhat care about MMR since the one thing it seems to do is reduce the frequency of people feeding on cooldown.
>>562944136Your massive wall of self-aggrandizing text is effortlessly invalidated by me simply saying>she was fine when she didn't have snowballing souls on killRETARD
Vyper cuddles… when…
>>562944136Don't forget her super easy dash which allows her to silence wave without aimingYeah matchmaking is fucking terrible again, it's all one sided stomps. Why aren't they balancing the soul earners among the two teams why it's always the sweaters together in one
>>562944428What about when the bug gets fixed?
I want to learn Lash but he seems very weak to be a burst character, he’s also squishy as hell
>>562944715She was broken before they added that. She would still be too strong if they removed just that. See also: >>562944814>>562944387
I SURE WISH AVOIDING HEROES ACTUALLY WORKED
>>562944972Your lane against Graves is ready sir.
>>562945054splendid a grey talon, you spoil me today
>>562944787She probably smells like cheap booze and cigarette smoke. I also bet she’d cuddle up close to you since she’s cold blooded. She also snores real loud
drifter or seven?
>>562944901Lash is very weak right now. He's an ult bot with an ult that is very easily counterable. Wouldn't recommend unless you find him fun and want to play him for fun.
>>562939359It's great on dynamo because you can't be killed while ulting anymore. Ivy can be great too with an echo shard because you can double stun out of a cheat death proc as it ends and heal up and potentially even ult out of the iframes. Doorman makes great use of it but get creative. Other people have a reason to build it too. It's good even on supports because if you have limited rejuvs you ideally don't want to be getting picked. You want your carries to respawn not you. So delaying that and potentially giving them the respawn instead is very valuable on its own.
>>562945186If you want to turn your brain off, Seven.If you want to turn your brain off but defend yourself like you’re not, Drifter
>>562945186spirit damage nuke or assist bot
>>562944972>placebo ban>placebo reports>placebo armors>placebo metal skinGreat game you got here Yoshi.
>>562945287>>562945457i feel like spirit damage is just plain better overall so probably seven then, thanks
>>562944136They should decouple Boons and Gold from a single Souls stat and put the former on a harsher non-linear curve so that it's easier to catch up and harder to create massive power gaps. Being fed has way too much impact. If you get a bunch of kills, you're already very likely a better player than whoever you laned against. But then the massive numerical difference Souls advantage creates makes it nigh impossible for the other, possibly comparable players on the enemy team to play against you. As it is, the vast majority of games are decided 10 minutes in.
>>562945607The good thing about seven is that gun or spirit works well for him, so just go nuts
>>562945685oh shit amazing
I had a dream a patch dropped and Victor didn't even get mentioned in the notes
>>562945186Drifter is inherently coler
>>562946062That sounds like a nightmare...
>>562945665You make a good point I think that would improve things.
>>562917818Mina would be way hotter like this
>>562895662playing silver is infuriating because even if you dominate early game all you're doing is painting a target on your back for the people that were salty at you to just RAPE your ass once lategame comes. it quite literally does not matter how strong you get because despite having two fucking kits shoved into one single hero it still pales in comparasion to the power of haze pressing a single button
Don't forget snakes are very disgusting and are full of bacteria IRLVyper would be extra disgusting
>>562945186VENATOR
>>562946152Its a possibility if they plan on reworking him
>>562946373She’s cute.
>>562946425would be a lot cooler if he d id damage
>>562942170>pick the sliding character>don't want to slidewhat
>>562946685i want her character not the shit game mechanic
>>562946759>sliding gun character
>>562946921sassy broad
>>562946759just go jack off instead of griefing 5 other people
when paige says "pull back" i like to imagine she's watching me jerk off and is telling me to pull my foreskin back
>>562946959nah im playing spirit vyper till i die or they fix her kit
I think I just had the most lopsided matchmaking I've ever seen.> I have Seven, Infernus, and Kelvin on high prio> No one else selected> Matchmaking takes 10 minutes and finally finds me a match> The other team is a 6-man premade who has Wraith, Haze, Kelvin, Infernus, Seven and Ivy> My team has Calico, Sinclair, Pocket, Paradox, Bebop and Vyper> Game forces me to play Paradox even though I do not have her selected> Bebop and Pocket have never played before> Get stomped in under 12 minutes
>>562947136>> Game forces me to play Paradox even though I do not have her selectedwhy are you just lying
>Win >Loss>Win>Loss>Win>LossI don't know if I prefer this to red/green carpets
>>562946484They don't need to rework him. If they plan on leaving his 2's purge as-is then they need to revert all the other damage, scaling, and range nerfs from launch until now.Otherwise just give his 2 the purge back.
>>562947064>”I want to play the slide character”>ok you’ll need to slide>”NO I DONT WANT TO! Please tell me how to play this character the wrong way!”You’re a retard.
vyper should have a lingering poison grenade and her bullets make the poison tick faster, as it stands your reward for landing 800 shots with her short ass range gun is... not being able to time the poison better for when they're lower lifehaze out there applying all gun effects and passives on her ult and vyper can't even damage you in hers>b-but armor piercin-that item is SHIT, it's the worst kind of gimmick, it's not good for dealing with tanky characters and it's way too expensive to pick over anything else
>>562947421not my fault they designed her wrong
I think they should buff all heroes in B tier and below
>>562947530Not Valve’s fault you’re playing the character wrong. Play someone else or learn.
why is shiv's knives even a dot? just kill them, stupid knife
who carries more, venator or drifter? i want a cool dad who kills people for fun
>>562947686Venator easy, he's like the best gun carry right now.
>>562947795poggy thanks!
>>562941084aimlabs is a meme.
>>562947626Nta but didn't ask. Will never play Holliday as a spirit supportcuck no matter how much Valve wants her to be one. Simple as.
>>562947686you can just kill people with venator, drifter relies on your opponent being bad
>>562947838That’s cool bro but no one asked you to comment
>>562947894I accept your concession.
Why does the jungle feels like a finite ressources only for my side
>>562941707if the haze is good it's because you're team is bad and they can't make plays.
>>562947958Please wait to speak until I address you.
seeker hours
This game has become FAR too snowbally. Literally a single kill at minute 1 can decide the entire match with absolutely no recourse. Street Brawl is unironically more balanced and there's literally no balance there...
>>562948107Go back to overwatch.
Is it normal for like a third of the roster to be throwpicks mainly used to drop ranks
>>562939691yeah he's cancer. the worst part is he gets gun AND movement speed from spirit and he also gets 4 stam. where the fuck is ivy's free stats?
>>562947289I agree but the masses all want him reworked for skill expression, so it's heading that way I think Honestly I don't know why people have such an issue with having a character that is easy to play everything has to be le skill high ceiling
>>562948360Go back to League tourist.
>>562948232I've been playing since March 2024, dipshit.It wasn't always this snowbally.
>>562939785>>562940056the only 'people' who think support is a cuck role is subhuman russians who actually can't understand the concept of doing something for anyone but themselves. they literally do not belong in team games. you can see how cowardly and selfish they are in ukraine when they constantly abandon their fellow men on the battlefield and leave them to die. america would never.
>>562948407exactly, the game needs more characters like graves and victor
>>562948436I haven't played that in over a decade
>>562948107don't forget the end taking 15 more minutes than it should
>>562948360>Implying90% of eternus players are meta slaves so they don't even play the heroes that are gutted for high level play.
>>562948550I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not because I'm a retarded autistic but I unironically agree In general most characters aren't even that hard, the major difficulty comes from aiming and positioning Rem for example is easy as fuck to play and the hard part is having the discipline to not steal your team's sinners Haze is an ult farmbot, don't even need good aim as it stands And so it goes
>>562941707>>562948008oh man haze is so overpowered>buy disarm>buy knockdown>buy stamina mastery>stops being a hero
ALCHEMICAL FLASK
>>562948860Disarm does nothing to her ult max build.You can't even escape because she will just build phantomstrike and or warp stone.
>>562948860>No unstoppableCool you went up against a retard and won
>>562948860>spend 9600 souls on every single hero to kinda-counter a single 1 on the enemy teamlollmaoroflmao even
>haze is a non character just dont interact with her->*phantom strike sound*>*abrams pin*>YOU WILL BE JUDGEDor>*warp stone sound*>NOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW>THIS ENDS NOW
>>562945568>>>placebo reportsif you actually report people as much as is necessary in this game you wind up getting report banned anyways.
>>562948649>throws bomb>they should run>puts down wall>I should swap them through this>charges up carbine>I should …. shoot them>swaps> AAAA I'M SWAPPING SWAP SWAP SWAP GET SWAPPEDwhy does she talk like that ? is she supposed to be a kid show host ?
i wouldnt even mind haze if her ult looked cool, she moves so slow and its lame
>>562947136the game literally does not give you a game if it can't give you one of your selected heroes. you actually meant to ban paradox but accidentally left clicked on it at some point and made it lowest prio, thus giving a 4th potential option.
>>562949279She's a gigantic dork
>>562949279She likes talking to the player
>>562949057they were clearly building one. debuff reducer hello? end the game before she has 40k, crazy idea I know.>>562949083tell me why those 3 items aren't good in general. you can pick up items and have them be generally useful for other people too.
>>562946759this is the mentality of every single silver fan btw
>>562949509You don't wait until 40k to buy BKB if you're building it
>>562949280>she moves so slowhm?
the game is actually in a great state right now. no hero is super broken, everything is pretty balanced. if you think otherwise you're probably just a pisslow shitter that can't macro or counterbuy
>>562933594It's necessary with how overpowered movement in this game is. Having a character that can shut down all the movement faggotry for several seconds is essential.
>>562949662>no hero is super broken>when wraith, infernus, haze, mirage and warden exist
why are phantom retards with 47% win rate being thrown on my teams at e1? the game is having a hard time hiding the forced 50 when third party sites exist. no wonder they try to throttle them.>>562949662the only problem I have right now is that riposte is a massive mobility spell when procced and yet while hexed he still gets to use it. it should block a spell, sure, but it shouldn't move him while hexed.
>>562949509Because spending nearly 10k souls on non-build items nukes your damage output by nearly a 3rd thus literally throwing the game, dumbfuck.You're clearly Ritualist or under.
>>562949662>no hero is super-broken>haze>infernus>geist>mirageAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>562941084you can get e6 with pretty mediocre aim it's really not important when everyone's macro is currently so bad
>>562942394It's because he literally cannot take cover behind some of the walls and objects in the game because he's a FAT FUCK.
>>562949662LMAO I already Uninstaller. Too little too late, yoshi
>>562949797because there aren't enough players
>>562942832I can't wait until we get a character that is twice as cancerous as Celeste has been for this game.
Why is there no model viewer website for deadlock while dota has oneNeed it for drawing references
>>562950160>twice as cancerous as Celeste has been for this game.Paige already exists
>>562949662>Haze>Mirage>Paige>Celeste>Apollo>Calico>Wraith>Graves>Kelvin>Shiv>BalancedThe game's balance has only gotten worse over time, the last 6 heroes added ruined it even more.
>>562950290You can check the wiki and get the model sheets
>>562941084Tracking is more important in Deadlock. You can't one tap here like you can in CS so flicks aren't that important.
>>562950382Paige at least dies if you jump on her. Celeste uses her free always-active OP movement to escape any bad positioning.
>Oracle -> Eternus level play is unfun asscancer where the game is decided by the first person to make a single mistake at minute 0 thus causing the entire game to snowball uncontrollably, but still takes 30 minutes with no surrender option and extremely harsh leaver penalties >this faggot wonders why no one above Oracle us playing the gameOh...Oh my...
>>562950382>IS THAT A FRICKEN SUPPORT CHARACTER REEEEEE STOP SHIELDING MY EPIN FRAGS THIS IS CANCEEEERRRRR
>>562950557I've been in Oracle for the past two months and yeah, it really isn't as fun. Games are just decided either by the atrocious matchmaking giving one team the feeding retards, or giving one team the OP as fuck team composition with several meta characters, while my team gets a Silver going 1-5 in the first ten minutes and a Sinclair who does nothing all game.
>>562950382Paige is honest
>>562950579wheres the retard who gave an essay on why supports are not a thing because "muh soul mechanics" when in reality, the guys a fucking retard who just buys dmg on every hero?
who are you quoting
(You)
sorry for buying Divine Barrier and using it on my teammates...
>t. Venator
>>562950687I'm tanking my rank to get the fuck out of here, please understand
STOP
>>562951432I honestly cannot blame you. Oracle is full of boosted animals who abused the most braindead meta picks every game, like Victor, and now they are floundering because the other meta picks at least require you to use your gun.
>>562950687They're not even feeding retards, that's the worst part. The game currently operates in a way that allows for extreme snowballing. A single kill is enough to put you enough ahead that the enemy has 0 ability to fight you if you're Oracle+.
>>562942562I believe Zoomer Negroe for penis.
am i a boosted animal if i got to eternus playing split push doorman
>>562951336>>562951414underrated ven item if you *aren't* the only carry on your team.
>>562951681no. i kneel
>>562951681Yes, but everyone is a boosted animal until they remove source movement exploits
>>562951469I like it more than 10 loss 10 win
>>562951591Yeah the snowballing in this game is atrocious. It's even worse with characters like Calico and Drifter existing that get free stats just for existing near kills.Urn is not a comeback mechanic since by the time you are down on souls enough to where you have the advantage on it, the enemy team probably is already getting midboss or two of your walkers. God forbid they have Celeste on their team, you are never getting any urns.>>562951870God, please do this. The movement in this game is so autistic and should not exist in the current state with absolutely zero tutorials on how to abuse all the stupid bugs that make it function.
NEW PATCH WHEN? NERF M1GGERS
>>562952027Last seen 19 minutes ago
>>562951870This would be great but I can only imagine the absolute tidal wave of whinge that would occur
Sex with Yoshi
>>562951934Calico and Drifter being snowball characters us completely fine.The problem is that EVERY character is a snowball character currently given how the game mechanics are designed.
>>562949662The game is in the shittiest state it had ever been since 2024 when they opened the game for everyone
DEADLOCK CURED MY PORN ADDICTION
>>562950535>Paige at least dies if you jump on her.That's because PaigeBots don't build stamina mastery nor include it in their builds.
>>562951934>It's even worse with characters like Calico and Drifter existing that get free stats just for existing near kills.It's so funny that most Drifters are 2/16 feeder animals that try to 1v6 the enemy jungle when the guy gets free stacks just by existing near teamfights because the rules on what an isolated hero is seem to be "they're 20 feet away from somebody else" and "there's an object blocking the FOV"
>>562952521I think apollo is the only actual snowball character in the sense they can't run from being weaker later on, because of poor scalling, counters and high (for early) base damage? I don't know. But he just falls off, calico will always have good damage even if you win lane against her, they need to stop and rework older characters to fit this new shop and heroes, things like apollo becoming invulnerable slowing and silencing people while warden basically has no ult unless a dynamo or mokrill helps him
A support character's durability should be inversely proportional to the durability they provide their teammatesDynamo should be squishy as shit
>>562952968>I think apollo is the only actual snowball character in the sense they can't run from being weaker later onSilver
>>562947530You are genuinely and without reservation a complete retard.
>>562953090eh, she's still tanky and cucks m1ggas out of attacking and using stamina
>>562952968Apollo is like the opposite of a snowball hero?I'm confused by your post. Are we talking about characters that snowball with advantages, or characters that create that advantage? It's not the same thing.He's strong early and falls off to just being OK later in the game. He exists to create a strong early advantage for his team. But he doesn't really benefit strongly from it.
>Viewing thread Legendary Items and Enhanced items for the main game hmmm
>>562951934urn in general is such a dogshit mechanic, essentially a free 4-10k souls for whoever has decided to practice routes; God forbid that theres a Celeste that knows how to pull off a slide boost on the air vents, she'll be in mid by the time you notice she's picked up the fucking thing, and can then air drop into the spot at 20 million u/s. And if one team already has an advantage its just a free way for them to get even further ahead. Comeback urn should spawn on the losing teams side and be invisible on the map for the winning team, otherwise the winning team can always secure it. Also this meme passed around by the "pros" (not getting paid anything in their homo league btw) that its a way to force a team fight is so funny, by the time you want to force teamfights you go mid, and if its not available you attack the enemy structures or gank any lonely fags you find
>>562953196>She's still tankyShe really isn't.>Cucks m1ggasIf she's behind you won't even get to wolf and her disarm is worthless without the threat of her going in onto you Silver when behind is legit one of the most useless chars in this game
>>562953291The urn should just be deleted and a new objective thought of to take its place.
>>562953245its literally why im playing brawl. yoshi understands.
>>562953196Mo does this much better because his sand blast is AOE and he's tanky 24/7 and not while he's inside of an ult
>>562949865shitter self report btw trying to make out like building anything but damage is 'throwing'. enjoy your archon games lil bro. lmao
>>562952973considering he has quantum I agree. mina situation.
>>562953090Nah she still does good damage later one and is tanky
its really funny browsing deadlock on twitch, 70% of streamers are playing Haze Kelvin Dynamo Apollo. Meta shitters having to be hard carried by the current patch's giga niggas. The other 30% are vtubers and Russian schizos playing shit like Holiday and Drifter
>>562954236>The other 30% are vtubersAnd the vtubers are all playing Rem, Graves, Paige, and Mina
>>562953817I'm Eternus 4, child.
>>562954236i only watch eido, he plays bottom tier characters like silver
>>562954491Eido is literally *THE* meta chaser.
>>562953291Replace it with Trophy Collector.I'm not joking, replace the Urn with a Trophy that your team hold and it generates souls passively for your team. You can't take it outside of a specified area, to force people to stay in an area that a fight will then happen in. After holding it for like 2-3 minutes it despawns and will respawn later.>>562952521I disagree, snowball characters in these sorts of games are never designed well. Calico and Drifter are both horrible to play against since Calico has multiple movement abilities that all allow her to play as comically aggressive as possible and get out of any threat for absolutely free unless she gets mo and krill combo'd the moment she is visible.Drifter's ult is total fucking AIDS to play against too.
>>562954707>buy slowing hex and she can't use 75% of her abilities
>>562954389clearly boosted there by better players if you think cc actives or fucking stamina mastery cannot exist in a build. you're aware 'supports' exist in this game, right? you know when I shut down the seven ult, horse the dynamo ult and catch 4 people with a stun and then root them all that's actually valuable impact in a game, yeah?
>>562951925sure but it's getting a bit absurd
>>562954802And then she just buys dispel magic since it's an essential item currently. Slowing hex doesn't really help as much as you think it does.
>>562954857lil bro is getting hit by eomm
>Arcane Surge>Superior Duration>Diviner's Kevlar >RefresherDa dahkness is cummin
>>562954929you talk low rank
>>562954980Buying slowing hex does not solve the problem of Calico being able to freely leave any fight she wants at any time.
>>562954857Kek
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>>562954707>Drifter's ult is total fucking AIDS to play against too.I agree but it's a core aspect of him and should stay the way it is.
>>562955342I don't think it should, it's just braindead as fuck and wins you every team fight for free.
What is the Chinese Drifter build
>>562955406EE max mark
>>562955605Saw a drifter trying this, his mark did like 60% of max hp 20 minutes in before resistance or EE
>>5629554061 Magic Carpet from the Yangtze river 3 Golden eggs from grandma's goose(sold at 15min, 25 min, and 30 min)
>>562955605I love dots so I'll try this with decay and toxic
>>562954805>support playerOkay, enjoy your cuck role, I guess...
>>562955828why would you sell an egg to immediately buy a new one and wait?You may as well keep the first egg
>>562955920see >>562948538
>>562954805>supportsand then you throw a book and shitout the 2nd most damage on the team
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>>562955406mercurial magnum spirit drifter
>>562956057>and then you throw a book and shitout the 2nd most damage on the teamyou max shield and root for shred, have 2 points in ult and then maybe you get book after. there's better spirit heroes if you care about damage.
>>562956216>tfw I got a Paige one game that built literally nothing but spirit items>Not a single green item
>>562956216I don't care that much about damage but a decent Paige / Ivy / Dynamo will top damage numbers while still supporting.
