No kys plz>Demo Days Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68 Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67 >/v/3https://thev3expo.com/>AGDG Resources https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w >Progress Posting Guide https://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn (embed) >Helpful Links New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/ /agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/ >How to WebM https://obsproject.com https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter >Previous Thread >>562815693
Get me some of those cake memes
Progress:I was about to work on my game but then i got distracted and gooned to ai generated interracial futa bokube bnwo sissy hypno inflation porn instead until i passed out
>>562937172again!? >>562933330
Progress:Redid my design doc again for the 80th timeCode?Assets?Whats that i dont know her
“I think everyone’s so focused on the goal of ‘Oh, I'm gonna make a great movie. I’m gonna make a great movie, and everyone will know that I’m great,’ instead of ‘oh, if i make enough things, then i will become a maker of great films.’ “hobbymaxxers stay winning. too bad i got nothing going for me and i decided to go all in on gamedev.https://youtu.be/zoZOa9xjM1g?t=1270
>>562937418If i sign up will those girls have sex with me
>>562938196Maybe if you hit the Konami code on the site they'll tease you enough to get your hot thick submission out of you.
Working on the new Mongol character design.
>>562938259BOOBA
>>562937792>I'm gonna make a great game, I'm gonna make a great game, and everyone will know that I'm great, but it'll take a long time
>>562937792I've never heard of this guy or his movies, he doesn't seem like a great authority on making great things. I think most people that do make great things start out that way because they're obsessed and have the means to make great things.
Need feedback on a mechanic. After you die, for each boss slain you get a signature permanent boost from his exclusive pool. You can reroll them and get another from his pool, but you potentially get up to 10 boosts at once. Do you find this mechanic interesting or confusing? I could have the player choose only one from this list, and make them 10x more powerful, but this will introduce an asymmetry: to get 10 boosts right now you need to reach wave 1000, but with this change a wave 100, while limiting your choice to the first boss pool, will grant you the same amount of boosts as a wave 1000 run, just from a smaller pool. What do?
>>562938746>Need feedback on a mechanic. After you dielet me stop you right there. after you die, you should be returned to the main menu.
>>562938746Reroll but decrease rewards by 1 every time you do, give rewards that offer asymmetrical bonuses that are fantastic in some combinations but terrible in others.For example:>fixed damage reduction and decreased % hp.>free upgrade guarantee but reduced number>large % damage increase but reduced attack speed or equivalent>option to delete existing upgrade
>>562938746Oh you posted in "the gay thread"
>>562938650his resume is pretty stacked. his last two movies did gangbusters, and he's been filming for 17 years, slowly becoming better.Anyway, I hope I make a great game. I've been looking for a way to justify my existence. I just need to be great....
>>562939717It takes around 2 years of dedication to become great at most things if you are capable. Usually someone is not really applying themselves or just passively absorbing knowledge and are really quite subpar, but something happens and they find the spark. And in that 2 year timeframe they attain 95% of what they ever will accomplish. Now you can spend 17 years chasing that last 5% or you can try and find your spark. The difference between a Tarantino or a Spielberg and a Michael Bay is that Michael Bay will be remembered for Megan Fox in Transformers and not The Rock.
>>562940408Wow, that's good stuff. I'll take a note of that.
Any reason I should not include this in my game's soundtrack: https://vocaroo.com/1dGDya8q2Yta??
>>562942392you can't say cunt on the internet
>>562938267kawaii
Man I hope in the afterlife I become a perfect flawless chad and will have the anime girl I've been obsessed with my whole life as a wife who loves me and won't cheat or hurt me
>>562943186I wanna be an anime girl and do hardcore and smart things and be single forever
>>562940408>It takes around 2 years of dedication to become great at most things if you are capable.that's wild. how come medical doctors and professors take over a decade to become experts in their fields?
>>562943326Academia has a lot of fluff and useless filler
>>562943556so there should be loads of self-made experts out there publishing papers and practicing medicine if it's so easy then?
>>562943274Nice ad
>>562943326that's not under the 'most things' umbrella I guess.
Fucking around at work, but I'll get srs man pants on when I get home!
>>562943687Stop being disingenuous.
>>562943803i feel like you could make the coolest music video....
>>562943805post your pong clone you developed in two years. show the class.
>>562943947I'll post a picture of my foot up your ass if you don't start behaving
>>562943326Would you say that all medical doctors and professors are experts in their field?
>>562944406look at my doctor, dawggg
>>562944406i should have said the average medical doctor takes over a decade to get a medical license and practice medicine. your typical artist or programmer who is any good starts very young and grinds away at their craft because they enjoy it. you don't really mean to suggest that you can become good at all aspects of gamdev in two years when it takes highly talented people most of their youth to get good a singular skill? you will probably post pewdiepie as the lone expcetion.
>>562944931I think that some things are easier to learn just because it mirrors other activities in life and it's just as easy to say that so and so's fighting career started at age 4 because he was wrestling with his friends in the yard but that there's a clear distinction between the path to mastery and just doing something. Most people are just doing something, it's probably hard to just stumble across medicine in your every day life unless you have a habit of exhuming corpses and performing illegal autopsies so it takes longer to go from layman to journeyman if you aim to become a surgeon or an anaesthesiologist than going from doodling to being a painter. I'm not talking about being average and having no value I'm talking about the path to mastery, from personal experience and from reading or hearing about pretty much everyone that same time frame keeps coming up, about 2 years. The goal isn't to dissuade anyone but to show that the main difference is interest and dedication. Also if we're setting the bar at becoming a medical professional as opposed to a layman, a nurse would suffice which takes about 2 years. And isn't it true that nurses go to experts to get that last 5% bit of information and experience to get the approval to administer treatment that the average person requires?
>>562945849>from personal experience and from reading or hearing about pretty much everyone that same time frame keeps coming up, about 2 years.that's pretty anecodtal. where are the studies that showing the career trajectories of successful people follow a two-year period of rapid improvement? i'm not saying people like that don't exist but is it really typical?
>population collapse>sleep cyclesHarder than you think
I love linux so much i have a arch linux shirt and a tux sticker I need more linux things.
>>562944931i think going to school or being taught generally makes it quicker to learn anything because if you are just starting out you lack the fundamental knowledge of the field to even understand what you should be trying to learn.if a child picks up a pencil and doodles they don't even know "basic" concepts that most artists are aware of such as anatomy, perspective, linework, shading, etc. if decided to try to get better they would just draw more but they wouldn't make massive improvements quickly because they aren't practicing those specific things. vs someone who is aware of those things and directly practices them would make progress quicker and learn quicker. that's why being taught or tutored by a pro is valuable because they can give you direct tips on how to improve that you're not even aware of.
>>562946924this you?
>>562947180that dude is already dead
Well that was a disappointing experiment.
>>562947252no imn not
>>562947180it's a sign
how long are you going to be expected to support your game?a couple of days ago Obsidian released an update with optional turn-based mode. this is a game that came out 11 years ago and last paid content/dlc came out 10 years ago and they're still updating it.I'd love to be able to work on my game like that but as soon as income dries up I'm on a countdown to make something I can sell or literally end up homeless.
>>562947446>one-step CAPTCHA gang representing
i'll say this: it's often cited that it takes 10,000 hours to master a single subject. assuming it only takes 1,000 to get to intermediate level, you need to multiply those 1,000 hours by the number of skills you need to learn (art, programming, music, level design, game design, etc.) assuming you are a solo dev, you could get to the level of a decent game dev in 5,000 hours which, at 8 hours per day, you would take a little under two years. realistically, with the level of discipline that your typical anon has, it would take wtice that long or longer to allow for all of the time wasted scrolling, masturbating, playing vidya etc. if you have a job, you might be looking at a decade.i understand why the two-year timeframe might be realistic for talented and disciplined people.
>>562946746That'd be a hard thing to track from objective criteria, you could equate skill with compensation but usually compensation comes after skill. But there are studies attempting to track time to proficiency which find that the onboarding process takes around 3-6 months with productivity being achieved after 1 year, a lot of people (like me) anecdotally see mastery (relative to the 6 month benchmark) achieved at around the 2 year mark.
>>562947883making it as a solo dev takes a lot of luck even with exceptional skills. spending all the time developing those skills doesn't meaningfully increase your chances. you're much better off having barely adequate skills but making more games.
>>562948005see this >>562947883i kind of a agree with you. i think five years or longer is probably realistic for undisciplined NEETs on this board.
>>562948205Yeah I also agree, that's why I think it's more important to find something that interests you enough to devote that time to your craft. Also consistency will beat out crunches every time unless you're consistently crunching.
>>5629481822000 hours + luck might work for some people but it takes a lot of luck to stand out in today's market.
>>562947536>how long are you going to be expected to support your game?depends on the type of game and of course the level of successsome games are clearly done once they're released while others are better suited for updatesI think gamers also understand on some level that a game that made no money usually won't get support though that doesn't mean they won't complain about it
>>562947883That's why you're supposed to build those skills while working on small games that take up a couple months at most. That way you get to develop the whole range of skills related to gamedev instead of just one or two sides of it. Even with that it's still a long road and most will never find success. If that idea makes you uncomfortable then quit while you're ahead and spend your time on something that makes steady money like a regular job.
>>562948709It's probably to be an Engineer and problem solver if you're gonna make a game for that reason, if you start thinking like an economist like:>well let's assume we have all of these things that can fix our problems>-ack!>uh, well actually it's just a prediction modelThen you end up like most artists and youtubedev channels, you can use your problem solving skills to engineer your other limitations away. An artist will think the most basic programming tasks are hard but a programmer can always doodle something for his roguelite/survivor/incremental sloppa
How do I go about getting a license for small IPs? I want to start making gacha games.
>>562948709i put all of my eggs in one basket and mostly just know how to code. if i can't learn the other skills i need to know in say the next five years i should just get a job at UPS or kms or something. 1,000 hours per subject sounds reasonable. if i learn each skill in sequence, i might start to get a sense of my general aptitude for learning. it took me an excessive amount of time to get just okay at programming so my expectations are low.
>>562949335>learn each skill in sequenceYou will learn cross-discipline skills for every skill you learn you'll be surprised how much you can scaffold from seemingly unrelated disciplines
>>562949791learning in parallel would be more sustainable, i would be less likely to burn out. i could probably manage more hours per day if i knew i only had to work on a subject i hate for two hours a day instead of eight.
>>562949791
A planet is generated in the simulation, the planet data is properly streamed to Godot, and the planet is rendered.The world gen is wonky as fuck and needs refining, but it works.
what's behind all this jive bullshit?
>>562949335Minimize what you need from the other skills. Use assets, minimalist art etc. If you want to make games alone you gotta get to all the parts and get through them somehow so that you can finish a project.
>Flappy bird>It's a rip off from Helicopter game>Vampire survivors>It's a rip off from Magic SurvivalThats it, thats the cheatcode to success in game dev, you just gotta rip off and existing right mini game and meme it
>>562953712imagine making 50k a day and taking down your game from appstore because money make you depressed.Nigga just turn off your phone and dont look at your bank account
>>562953712Stardew Valley is an originallike though
>>562954448Unless it's a 1:1 clone it's an originallike
>>562937172I know the feel
>>562953712Stealing good ideas from games that had good ideas but didn't execute them well or missed potential in them has been a viable strategy for the longest time. But you have to be able to do it better than the original game. Else there's no point.Most indies make games by making worse copies of other games. That is not the way to success. Do not imitate something that you cannot improve upon with your skills.
>Humans review some saved chats to improve Google AI. To stop this for future chats, turn off Gemini Apps Activity. If this setting is on, don't enter info you wouldn’t want reviewed or used. How it works
>>562953712>Minecraft>It's a rip off from Infiniminer>Stardew Valley>It's a rip off from Harvest Moon>Undertale>It's a rip off from EarthboundJust steal a less popular game. That's the cheat code to success that nobody wants you to know. If you're trying to steal a game that's already being stolen by everyone (FotS trend games), you're doing it wrong.
>>562943326Because it's all fake made up bullshit by non human entities to subdue your spiritual birthright. Doctors are just as clueless as you are.
>>562955094Incredible advice nodev-sama. I never thought of it before. Surely the landfills of cheap clones are nothing to worry about.
>>562955420Just don't make a cheap clone? Make a good clone like the games mentioned
[existing game, but better] instead of [existing game, but worse]
>>562955420>landfills of cheap clonesClones of what? Vampire Survivors? You're supposed to clone something that's currently unpopular, not something that's already popular and has 2000 clones released last week.
>>562955571The cynism in that post does not imply quality.
>>562955094>Just steal a less popular gameWith the exception of infiniminer those other two games were extremely popular just neglected.>If you're trying to steal a game that's already being stolen by everyone, you're doing it wrong.Yeah, need to find neglected oldies or games with a good concept but not finished or fleshed out.
I figured out the problem for my crash. Today, I fix it.
I'm making a business game. You basically start multiple businesses to compete with other AI businesses. The businesses have multiple attributes you set. Like cost, quality, etc, and you're limited by money, so you can't just make everything perfect all the time. Is this game I'm describing an RPG? I'm trying to think about what genre this fits into. It's all stat based, no player mechanical skill. It's not a business sim in the sense you aren't stocking shelves. You're more like the CEO designing specs on new businesses.
>>562956090>skateboarding is a popular sport, just look at how many people did it in the 90s
Would people care about a co-op tower defense? It feels like people don't really care about tower defense much anymore. Only if it is basically a mobile game.
>>562957868yeah and look at how popular those skate games are. the market right now is craving a good skateboarding game considering skate by EA is sort of being hated on right now for how poorly made it is. great time for an indie nigger to make a decent skateboarding game.
>>562957868Zoomers love the idea of larping as a skateboarder
1. At what age did you start game dev?2. Are you happy with where you are right now?
>>562957868perfect example of a neglected market, btw
It's stupid to even argue about what isn't a good game to make. If you don't want to make it, don't make it.
>>562955094>>562955094Undertale ripped off earctbound and even ripped off music.Stardew Valler Ripped off Harvest Moon.Rip off games, its that simple.
>>562958395Are you gay?
>>562958395My real gamedev hasn't started yet.
>>5629583951. 2017 at 27. 2. I want to kms
>>562958670okay cris, keep making your pagina game
>>562958670What if every day I feel like working on a different game? Should I have a weekly schedule?
>>562958175You need to have something with the coop that makes it worth it. No point in putting in the work for coop if it doesn't make the game cool for having it.There's still new TD games that pop off every now and then. Tangy TD came out just last month. Rogue Tower was fairly big a few years ago. There's been some incremental TD attempts as well.
>>562958813You just need to finish this project, right?
>>562959276Yes...
>>562958904You're mentally ill. It's not normal to say the words "Okay cris."
>>562959514okay, cris
Why
>>562959025You should simply give up and apply to some fast food place. You're not strong enough for this industry.
>>5629583957Sure, could be a lot worse! I get to make games
>>562959025Can you actually work on a different game every day? If you can then go for it. You'll make progress on multiple fronts and slowly have many games get closer to being done.If you just feel like it but don't actually work then you're ngmi and you should find something else to do with your life instead of wasting it nodeving.
>>562958395Depends.I started practicing and researching when I was roughly 14, though only very recently have I sat down and started working on a real project.
Progressclown cheat code.Moving onto reports, they need to be redone, they look like ass.
Newbie here trying to make something easy in RPG Maker.I thought Undertale's art seemed simple enough so I tried to use that as a north star (to adapt it later). I had fun making the character sprites (they turned out pretty good), but when it came to making the world art it SUCKED. Everything looks flat and like kids drawings (which surprised me because Undertale does not seem to have that much shading).But anyway, does it matter the order I try to make things? That is, does it matter if I try to improve my art right now and make the game later? Or should I build the game first using assets and make the art afterwards?
>>562960085Just like make game.
>>562959664Fast food pay is so low though, is it really better than gamedev?>>562959883Hard to stay motivation every day but no one does that. I do switch headspace easily though. I'm inspired by Dreamcube era and all the wacky launch games they had from all genres very airy 2000s vibes I live in it
>>562960085Depends. Do you legit intend to make both the game and art yourself? Then it shouldn't matter.Are you open to making a "fun game first with basic art" and having some artist latch unto the project along the way? Then maybe you don't have to spend too much on it. Just do what your gut is telling you, more important than "not making a mistake" is "make the mistakes fast".
I love him. He inspires me every day
How come everyone in the media and youtubers want 3D games, but when you see the ratings and what is played from the 90's.It's always 2D games that easily BTFO 3D ones.You can see clealy people prefer games like tetris, terraria, balatro, vampire survivor, undertale over big AAA or 3D games.I see retards here making more threads about that incest rpg maker edgy game than threads about the latest AAA 3D game.Nips also prefer easily 2D waifu shit like touhou to the latest 3D western game.
On today's episode of "Games that gabencunt killed", we have a soulful pixel platformer and RPG hybrid, with a good style and gameplay, that the fatfuck forcibly removed from his store for not making enough money...
>>562961323People want 3d but no one is good enough to make it
>>562961636I am.
>>562961323If people didn't really really REALLY want to play 3D games they wouldn't go out of their way to buy -expensive- specialized hardware to play it (aka GPUs)
>>562961539I recognize that tileset.https://cainos.itch.io/pixel-art-platformer-village-props
>>562960419>Hard to stay motivation every day but no one does that.Motivation only gets you so far. Discipline is what pulls you through to the end.
Three Dee is strictly superior. There are multiple genres only viable if you leave the two dimensional prison behind. Sorry, my creativity will not be restrained.
>>562961752then where's your picture of Leonardo Decaprio pointing at the screen?
>>562961323StS2 is the only 2D game on here atm, not including non-games like Bongo Cat and Wallpaper Engine. You're just retarded.
>>562961858They’re kinda the same
>>562962123>FOTM shit
>>562961858Can you explain the difference? Is discipline motivation without desire?
>>562961323Cris you live in a fantasy world. AAA 3d outsells all of that shit
what if the problem behind depression and lack of motivation is western culture? it's the common denominator in everything in your daily life.e.g. imagine how you'd feel if you'd spend all day just consuming animes and japanese video games and japanese porn.it might be related to the western mentality. because we hate collectivism, we are all about ourselves. so everything we produce is all about milking money from others. every product is made to use you and not to be used by you.this feeling of always "being used" might play a key role in depression and becoming asocial.but i'm not saying that japan is ideal. just saying that culture in general might be a problem for mental health.e.g. i once watched nothing but animes for 4 months and completely stopped consuming social media, and i yesdev'ed so hard in those months.when i watch a western tv show like breaking bad or so, it's addictive, but it makes me depressed. it's just so violent and depressing to watch. nothing is positive or uplifting. the only thing i can remember that kinda motivated me to enjoy life are Entourage and Two And A Half Men.and that's not even talking about feminist brainwashing and diversity slop.
>>562962369>e.g. imagine how you'd feel if you'd spend all day just consuming animes and japanese video games and japanese porn.Great!
>>562962123fivem is on steam now wtf?
>>562962367terraria and Stardew valley and nintendo 2D games easily outsell AAA shit.
>>562961323Cristian are you sexually attracted to Gadget? You seem like the type.
>>562962337>Fotm>Most of the list came out 10 years ago or more
>>562962513I'm not a furry.I prefer lola bunny.
>>562962645Based bunny enjoyer
>>562962556Flavor of the millennium
>>562962510Only 6 of the top 50 best selling games of all time are 2d. Cris gets BTFO again. In the top 5 only 1 is 2d, tetris.
I’m sad now
>>562958395>1. At what age did you start game dev?9>2. Are you happy with where you are right now?no
thoughts?
there's going to be a very scary place in my game..... It's the Underdark with a twist. There's only the Underdark. No surface.Imagine a character realizing that after mining upwards and going "wait... when does it end...?"
>>562961539>soulfulI see 2 platforms in a platformer from his screenshots
>>562963391It's small progress
"Wait... if .. you're here... then.. WHO .. IS THAT!?"
>>562962152>>562962341Discipline is being able to do the shit that needs doing even when you don't feel like it.
>>562963828Motivation can act as fuel for discipline.If you truly want to do something, you can power through anything
>>562962369idk the Japanese approach of working yourself to death for some corporation's profit because you're too afraid to stick out from the crowd doesn't seem that good of an approach either
>>562961539Looks hack. The game description is the definition of hack.
i wonder about the importance of making yourself believe you are not gambling. where it isn't even important if it's actually gambling or not.basically you gotta find a pattern and then have some sort of belief in that pattern, which then fuels your motivation to make something, because the pattern convinced you it wont just be a dice roll.e.g. if you believe that all humans crave crafting and selling stuff. then making a game about that wont be a gamble, it'll be a logical decision to make a game like that because it will definitely sell.but it only works if you really believe in it. otherwise your brain will say "that's a gamble" again. and the problem with believing it's a gamble, is that gambling sucks when the dice roll costs too much time and energy.you can roll a dice thousands of times a day. but you can only roll like maybe 2 games a year.there might be people who really don't think about this at all and keep making games, but you can't copy them if you are an analytical type (i think its in the genes, especially white people with high iq).so you gotta form a pattern you believe in or your brain will refuse to do anything. if your brain wouldn't work like that, it'd cause all sorts of other problems, you'd probably more prone to gambling in general and lose all your money.
>>562962369I feel that it’s more a feeling of disconnection
>>562963391Nice mockery.You know what? Imma do something
>Bug reveals itself nowWell shit
>>562964146You're rediscovering the role religion and faith has played in society
>>5629583951. 112. no
All I do is tell Claude (my only friend) what to do...
>>562964382yeah but the point of belief is that you do believe, not that you force yourself to believe.if you hear a growling behind the door you'll believe there's a dangerous dog or other animal.if i actually show you that it's just a speaker playing a sound, you'll immediately drop that belief.the reason people believed in god is cause they thought heaven is in the sky, that the earth is flat and that you got to the sky after you die.basically the reason people believed in religion has been debunked.you gotta find something you actually believe in based on evidence (or based on lack of evidence). forcing yourself never works.
>>5629583951. 16-172. Lot of hickups, but I think I'm on a better track now.
>>562962123>Cris is retardedthank you for telling me anon. I didnt know
the best way to maintain discipline is to think and feel as little as possible. be an automaton following a list of things you need to do.
already workin on new levelsi wanna do a highway that connects the last area with the first with two levelsgas station and highway
>>562965156shutup loser, you failed to make it, you sold out for nothing stupid zoomer HAHAHA
>Can't close the project until it's finished exporting or else there is a non 0% it gets corrupted>Taking 5 minutes longer than usual.well shit
how is your tutorial guy going to look?my game will have numerous advisors.One of those being a clown.How about your game's advisors?
>>562965348my game will have cris
I'm making my game free so everyone here can get a free copy, no need to thank me.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2943780
you don't need to watch motivational content to become motivated, you need to stop consuming demotivational content to be motivated.demotivational content is the poison of our time. especially all the arguments they are equipped with. ai is basically the nuclear bomb of demotivation they use. just think about how many demotivational posts you read every single day.think about it, why do you believe your effort isn't worth it? because you finished and published a good game and it didn't work out? or because someone told you so?the fucked up part is, it's more like passive smoking. you couldn't even tell me the exact person who motivated you. it's slipping into your mind here and there. that related video thumbnail saying "ai just caused layoffs" or "gamedev is too hard" or "my game didn't make any money" or "nobody can afford housing anymore" or "nobody is dating anymore". you couldn't even tell me the name of those channels. but they all slip into your mind.just think about it, what would your mind be like if you weren't exposed to those thoughts and you'd only judge the world by your own thoughts. yeah you'd be a little negative sometimes, but not in the same way you are when you got conditioned by someone whispering negative thoughts into your ear every single day.e.g. imagine being in a relationship with a girl and all your friends constantly telling you it wont work out, that she 100% is cheating already, that she is stealing money from you, that she talks bad about you behind your back, that she poisons your food etc. etc. - you can't tell me it wouldn't affect your relationship. at least you'd constantly be under tension and not let your guard down, constantly being stressed and worried, which drains energy and makes you not enjoy anything anymore.
>>562964747I think you misunderstand some things
>>562965545>e.g. imagine being in a relationship with a girl and all your friends constantly telling you it wont work out, that she 100% is cheating already, that she is stealing money from you, that she talks bad about you behind your back, that she poisons your food etc. etc. - you can't tell me it wouldn't affect your relationship. at least you'd constantly be under tension and not let your guard down, constantly being stressed and worried, which drains energy and makes you not enjoy anything anymore.You are describing being a woman with friends, they seem to be doing alright why can't you?
>>562965531i do not trust software running on my pc, where the developer uses comic sans in the thumbnail.
>>562965531I don't want that trash in my steam library
>>562965531>comics sans>horror engine for unrealthis is some mega slop
>>562965545You bring up a powerful perspective. It's true that much of the demotivation we experience isn't always rooted in our own thoughts, but often in the subtle, pervasive influence of external content and societal conditioning. Just like passive smoking, exposure to negative messages—whether through social media, news, or conversations—can silently shape our mindset and beliefs without us even realizing it.The key insight is that consuming demotivational content continuously can create a subconscious feedback loop that erodes our confidence and motivation. When we allow these messages to dominate our mental space, we start to question our efforts, our worth, and our potential—often based on the stories of others' failures or hardships, rather than our own experiences.Choosing to limit or filter out this negative input can help us reconnect with our true selves and evaluate the world through our own lens. It's about reclaiming mental space and understanding that many of the doubts and fears are external noise—not necessarily reflective of reality or our capabilities.Just like in your analogy about relationships, when the mind is bombarded with constant negativity or suspicion, it creates tension, stress, and drains energy. Conversely, cultivating a mindset centered on your own thoughts, strengths, and authentic experiences can foster resilience, positivity, and genuine motivation.Ultimately, guarding your mental environment is crucial. Be mindful of what you consume and recognize that you have the power to choose what influences your thoughts. Your effort is worth it, and your potential is not defined by the noise of demotivational messages around you.
>>562965531Neat
>>562965773actually had a girl leaving me because of her best girlfriend telling her how bad i am. she dated so many different guys afterwards. (at least saw her with 4 different guys in just 1 year) she became completely jaded. is that "doing alright"? (that was 15 years ago though lol, not sure what she's doing today)
>>562965961As if you wouldn't love to date 4 other women in just 1 year
>>562965961If you were dating 5 different girls would you be complaining?
>>562966121>>562966167Why are millennials like this
>>562966228Pragmatic? Comes with wrinkly brains, not that you would know.
>>562966121Not me. I want two cute girlfriends. Not one, not three. Two.
>>562966280Is that what you call it? Really not so different from boomers
i wonder why it's so hard to code desktop apps. it feels like everything is designed for the web, because saas milks more money than people being allowed to use an app offline.there's WPF, but it's windows only. then there's Qt with a licensing model that requires having your own team of lawyers or being rich.and then there's electron, which is stupid to work with, cause now you have to use 2 programming languages for the whole project instead of 1.why can't there just be some html/css framework that exposes all dom functions/callbacks to c# or c++?
>>562965961women are mentally bucked by feminism just go read /r/girldinnerwomen will be like "my bf of 7 years forgot flowers on valentines day" and every "woman" in the replies are just "dump his loser ass girl, he don't love you"
people are unironically using AI chatbots to post here
>>562962496T2 went hard for those online dollarinos
>>562966417Sdl and imgui. Wow. C/c++ has multiple viable alternatives as well. Glfw, nuklear, rmlui, etc etc I'm not listing it all out. This is very much a solved issue in C land.
>>562966417>it feels like everything is designed for the web>wants some html/css frameworkMaybe it's a you thing
Raped OP?
>>562966590thanks. rmlui looks promising.
>>562966417>why can't there just be some html/css framework that exposes all dom functions/callbacks to c# or c++?this line of thinking is exactly why everything is built for the web, retard.
>>562966645are you aware how many ui features html/css has? i can't even make a simple background gradient in unreal/godot/unity.
>>56295839525Yes.
>>562966823It's very good, but might take some time to set up and wrap your head around. Solves pretty much every gamedev issue you could have though.
guys I had a big idea this time, anyone interested?
>>562967094I stole it already
Finished my draft 0 for my VNI'm now working on going back and rewriting everything in full prose for a draft 1
>>562966829html/css are just file format to describe an ui layout, the only thing that is really web-oriented is javascript because of it's deep interconnection with json and the dom.
>>562967376you deserve death for being this retarded, currynigger
>>562967003I used a gradient in Unity to make a day/night cycle. On the one hand I hate CSS and HTML, but it would be nice to be able to copy and paste a bunch of shit I guess.
It's over
>>562967442you probably never make ui's, or you are making one of those janky ui's everybody hates.
I'm happy my style has now improved.:D
>>562967615>html/css isn't web orientedread what you said and kill yourself, moron
not making a game engine because other engines exist, is like not making a game because other games exist.
>>562967748web oriented yes, but not web exclusive at all.first and foremost it's UI oriented.
>>562967781The product now has more executive pull, while your formal role still looks under-defined.
i'll make a game engine that only supports color and normal maps. and the only AA option will be MSAA. pbr was a mistake.
>>562968060You are strategically important, but still organizationally blurry.
>>562968060That's exactly what I'm doing. Deferred rendering is for losers.RETVRN to forward rendering
>>562967938currynigger logic, back peddling, utterly moronic
>>562968217racist, low iq, utterly self-harming
>>562961323You're going with specific online examples than the actual normies.Again, the same fucking mistake here >>562926013Once you talk to your normie friend that plays Fortnite and sports game, you can throw /v/ and social media cliques out of the fucking window.
What I would like some help with is numbers.I added these to the debug HUD, allowing you to see the actual movement stats of each attack on-demand. Specifically, the impulse, aka how much it moves the player and in what direction, and the knockback, aka how much it knocks the enemy back and in what direction.Do you have any suggestions for numbers I should use for each attack to make it feel better? Tuning this'll probably help.
>>562969635no one here aspires to cater to that demographic thoughbeit
>>562961323Good 2D/2.5D btfos all 3D and always will
>>562970328True, specially if you actually have ideas and a vision instead of chasing memes or having the same frame of reference as others.But in a way, shit around masses culture and normies is worth acknowledging at least so you can learn how to avoid it.Or else, you get failed contrarianism:>e.g. guy that points out so many indie devs poorly copying anime but doesn't say the same at people poorly copying DisneyIn general, two lists are needed: One for Do's and another for Don't's.
i'll never understand why enginedevs love scripting languages so much.you don't write a book in 2 languages.
>>562971507don't worry - you'll learn
>youtube tutorial is designed like a mr beast videoholy shit the zoomer brains
>>562970125Execute fix/polish waves based on audit findings
>>562972218I know, but tuning this shit's numbers is something I'd like some help with still
>>562970125the last day I offered help there was no response and then the rest of the thread was everyone else saying what I said, over and over without more information, so I'm not trying again
>>562972535You give me troll vibes bro. You a slav?
>>562972609What was it you said?
>>562972745Yeah but not the european kind
>>562972810I’m splitting the investigation into one runtime evidence pass and two independent code reviews so we can compare hypotheses instead of following one guess.
>>562972883I mean, the visual evidence for what it looks like alongside the raw numbers is right there.
>>562972986I'm focusing on experiment scenario composition,
>>562972810I said you're focusing on the wrong problem, and that animations should add to game logic, not determine the game logicobviously there's exceptions
>>562971507It made more sense back when it'd take 5+ minutes to compile a decently sized project.
>>562973081Well, you'd be correct because that's already the case.Animations don't define anything beyond frame-based animation events. The rest is code driven.
>>562972812I fuckin knew it. Not really your fault you mean well I'm sure.
>>562973209you weren't trying to read the animation end time to determine if something else should(n't) happen?
nobody boughted my game, not even on sale... and the steamie lefted a negatiff review... how could this be???
>>562973403Not particularly, no?Only thing that the end of an animation defines is the hitbox in some circumstances.
I had the idea, what if I make kaliina 2 as a bomberman clone, and then have rosa drop the bombs, but pacifica kick and K.O. the enemy bugs and a button to switch between the two.So something like you dizzy the enemies with kicks and punches, until they're K.O. and then you carry rosa near them and drop the bomb to kill them.And make it so enemies wont attack me, but they can dizzy the sisters on collision.Also have something like the farm coffee harvest in some bags at the center that grants a game over if the bugs reach it, and a time limit to kill all the bugs.That would be 100% KINO.
the market is fucking brutalonly the top 3% of games get 1000 reviews, so 97% won't.imagine if the weather forecast said it's 97% likely to rain. you wouldn't seriously consider the possibility of dry weatherand that 3% includes AAA and AA games with marketing budgets and existing fanbasesnow if your game costs $15 and gets 1000 reviews, that's $250k in your bank account. if you worked 2 years on that game, that's the $125k/year. low six figures and only 1 in 33 chance of that. 32 out of 33 cases you'll be earning less than that. 30 out of 33 cases you'll be earning less than minimum wageif you're doing this for money, you're an optimistic dumbasst. an optimistic dumbass
>>5629746183% is an amazing chance at the lottery anon.Imagine a lottery that has a 3% chance of winning.
>>562974819except in this case a single lottery ticket costing you whatever your hourly wage is times 2000. and you win barely enough money to buy another lottery ticket.
>>562974819>comparing the lottery which is just scratching off a paper ticket vs. game development which is 2000+ hours of work and money investmentzukjeet at it again with its incredibly "intelligent" takes
>>562974618that sounds like amazing oddsyou trying to motivate me?
once I get through withdrawal I'll be unstoppable
>>562975064>>562975175that only happens if your goal is to make an JRPG in 3D with hundreds of levels.You can make a roguelite 2D shooter with a collectable card system as loot, and a basic VN in like 2 months of work where each card is a diferent furry anime girl stereotype and some irish indian metal ost.
>>562975245you have 3% chance to earn 3x as much as a burger flipper does 100% of the time for the equivalent amount of work
>You can make a roguelite 2D shooter with a collectable card system as loot, and a basic VN in like 2 months of workthat's still thousands of hours of work either way and the simplest games are also the most saturated ones, and with saturated genres your likelyhood of making it lowers from 3% down to 0.3%dekillify yourself immediately for you are low IQ.
>>562975565not if you use my cheap asset workflow.
>>562974618now subtract the amount of "games" with less than 5 reviews from the amount of games
>>562975703plenty of actual decent games get very low review counts too. the cope about "muh asset flip slop" is retarded because to valve, your real game is no different than an asset flip made by a hindu in his punjabi village. you're all just "content" to fill his store with.
>>562976179correction: you are all $100 steaks
competition is not a problem to me. my only problems are all about making stuff in the first place.when you are able to build a spaceship, you basically have no competition. the problem is specifically building the spaceship, and not how to compete with your finished spaceship.just because someone else is building a weather balloon, doesn't mean they are competition for my spaceship.
>>562975703why?
>>562976470does this game look good to you? would you play it? no, the answer is no
>>562976179why is so hard to think that it doesn't matter how much effort you put into the best puzzle platformer of all time, if nobody wants to buy puzzle platformers?Gotta make something on the genres that sell.
>>562976179i don't play games because they are "good", i play games because i want to play a specific genre, have a specific experience, have a specific gameplay.you can make me the best toast, but i want pizza not toast.you can make me the best classical music, but i want r&b not classical music.there's just genres that aren't that popular or interesting.
>>562976460and you're not discouraged by the fact you haven't even built a lego space ship yet?
>>562976601I wouldn't play undertale either. what I'm saying (You)r game probably looks even worse or doesn't exist outside your head so you have no basis to believe you could make something with over 5 reviews
>>562976601this game does not look good to me, nor would I play it. in fact, it doesn't even look good objectively, and yet it has more reviews and made more money than even the latest /agdg/ releases (so far at least).any appeal to "quality" in the modern games market is idiotic, because it's not quality that sells your game. it's getting viral on tiktok/youtube/whatever other slop content farm of your choice, and then redirecting steamies from there to your game.
>>562976179>20 bucks in one of the worst genres on steam>>562976470this immediately looks like a tech demo instead of a game, also seems like there was zero external marketing done
>>562976916You are investigating game architecture references
>>562966590Frosch you forgot your tripcode
>>562976916if it's not immediately obvious to you why pih is appealing, you're ngmi
>>562976825C'mon anon everyone can clearly see you are projecting insecurities about your own game. What's up? What's got you feeling down? We are anon here you can be honest. Its a 2D puzzle platformer isn't it? Is that what this is about?
>>562976637>>562976660>>562976964nice goalpost moving, retards
I think this anon got it >>562965531He went from 0 players to 114 right now. If you follow in his steps you will make it.
>>562977029Don't compare me to that talentless retard.
>>562977073do you really think schedule 1 succeeded because it's good?it has janky animations, comical graphics, very basic systems, probably janky code, the level design is amateurish.use your brain and detect a pattern. why does a game sell? even tyroller says it's mainly the fantasy. it's never just one thing though.i'd say fantasy is high priority though. along with fun, social/multiplayer experiences, power fantasies, freedom/autonomy, beauty/graphics, simplicity/easy to get into, context/meaningful progress etc. etc.when does something appear random? when you don't understand something. real luck begins when something is impossible to understand with the human context window.
>>5629770721. does your game run on some kind of computer?2. does it currently look better than the pic I posted?
>>562977427>youtube grifter retardnot even gonna bother with this one
>>562977626your reaction explains a lot. seems like you are anti-intelligence if you don't believe in pattern recognition.
Going through my diary is painful. I wrote in 2021 that I want to finish my game before the pandemic is over and then get a girlfriend.
>>562977427>even tyroller saysWe are approaching levels of cringe that shouldn't even be possible.
>>562978064post-humously trying to rationalize success of random games that have nothing in common for youtube ad revenue is not "pattern recognition", it's grifting.but do go ahead, keep watching that shit, i suppose that's all your hindu brain is capable of anyway.
$450 to fix my laptop
>>562978280you probably try to open a door by randomly hitting it in different places lol. literally monkey brain.
>>562978476>immediately projectingyou just can't help yourself, can you, zukjeet?
>>562953882You wouldn't understand the monk life.
>>562953712the real redpill is that all forms of game design were expressed in atari and arcade games just like all music genres were discovered decades ago
>>562978565you don't even to understand what i'm trying to tell you, you probably are too low iq to comprehend it it seems. also anger as a reaction to logic is also something i'd expect from an animal tier brain.
>>562953712>>Flappy bird>>It's a rip off from Helicopter game>>Vampire survivors>>It's a rip off from Magic Survival>Thats it, thats the cheatcode to success in game dev, you just gotta rip off and existing right mini game and meme it
>>562978951yep. many people act like they can discover new colors. yet colors exist in a spectrum, therefore they are all discovered.what you can discover though is new combinations. although combinations also have some sort of spectrums.you basically need to identify if something is a spectrum and if the full spectrum has been discovered yet. otherwise you'll go nuts trying to find something new, where there is nothing new.
>>562978983>you don't even to understand what i'm trying to tell youi perfectly do. it's just that what you're trying to say is just graphomanic nonsense, as evident by the fact that you hold fucking youtubers as an authority on anything.>>562979065oh and you fired up your bot right on cue. lmao
>He still thinks quoteposter is a bot
>>562979414might as well be, functionally no different than an actual bot
>>562979302>is just graphomanic nonsenseno it's not, it's pattern recognition. just look at popular games. building, crafting, multiplayer, easy to play/hard to master, popular archetypes (warrior, drug dealer, viking, soldier etc.), war/combat, good polish (nice graphics), dark patterns (completionist, dailies etc.)there are just so many patterns that you can detect in popular games.
>>562977427>even tyroller sayslol a chink company just stole his game and made millions with it while he just watched. idk if this is in his favor because the game was actually good to succeed or if this is proof that he's stupid to let that happen
>>562980007you talk like an absolute retard
>>562979781 I imagine quoteposter as a small cat person with a snack in hand who has a blinking device which detects posts to quote.
>>562980007>or if this is proof that he's stupid to let that happenI mean, what do you expect him to do? It's not illegal to make clones, otherwise Vampire Survivors and Stardew Valley creators would be in jail.
>>562980139launch the game on mobile himself instead of waiting for so long that a chink company could just make a copy first?
>>562953712>Too much money!This retard makes me angry
>>562979824spouting buzzwords is not an analysis, much less any kind of "pattern recognition".the only pattern you can see with popular games is they all went viral on social media one way or another, or had a big marketing campaign.
it's so nice to see that I can relatively effortlessly learn game design while some people will never grasp it
>>562980486>i can't detect patterns therefore they don't exist>i'll just put random things into my tomato sauce, cause it's impossible to detect a pattern how italians make tomato sauce
>>562980561You can't even design a good soulslike.
>>562980621>projection>food analogycombo breaker
>>562980303Maybe they got enough money from Steam and they just don't care about the mobile market. My game needs 10 keys minimum on the keyboard so it wouldn't work well on the phone, but even if someone made a clone of it on mobile, I simply wouldn't care. I'd sooner move in an Amish community and abandon all technology, than play any game that's not Snake on a phone, that shit's cancer to me I dunno how people spend all day staring at tiny screens pressing their tiny touchscreen buttons.
>>562980486>spouting buzzwords is not an analysis, much less any kind of "pattern recognition".>the only pattern you can see with popular games is they all went viral on social media one way or another, or had a big marketing campaign.
>please explain to me zukjeet why games succeed>there are many categories of games that do that all fit their market niche, if you time it right you can achieve a breakout success>so you admit you don't have the formula that fits every game thirdie?>that's not what anyone is saying, but even quality games can find success in depressed market conditions>lottery! zukjeet! gabencunt! steamie! if you don't make 7 figures it doesn't matter and even then gaben cunt and heckin taxes steal it all!
>>562980915>>562980935uh oh meltie
I've been having a divine intervention the last year about how I'm gonna get my dreams so very soon.
walking simulator side project.
>>562981096>uh oh meltie
>>562980803seems like you'll always fall back to this "uh I don't care" mentality so it's pointless to discuss further, but I would think that it's obvious for the people that do care about anything that if you make a successful game it's better for you to maximize the market for it yourself instead of leaving free money on the table for some shitty company to get. I also think it's disingenuous to imply you'd give up $10 million in revenue just because you hate a platform
>>562980935Seriously why do people here use review count to judge success?
>>562981713you can reliably extrapolate earnings from review count as people usually don't publically release their exact sales figures
>>562981131
>>562981713>hereeveryone does, retard. even non-gamedevs do.
That is very condescending about cris next time do a little research
>>562982848Seems like a pretty inaccurate way of judging success.
>>562982848>>here>everyone does, retard. even non-gamedevs do.
>>562980561>it's so nice to see that I can relatively effortlessly learn game design while some people will never grasp it
>>562982941you are just retarded. what >>562982000 said is correct, but even if you disregard that, a game that has 30k reviews is very obviously more fucking successful than one that has 300 reviews.
it was only a matter of time, but it's happening.https://x.com/Ten_24/status/2041913240385433987also it's 3dscanstore and not some random startup, so it's real
>>562983062>it was only a matter of time, but it's happening.>https://x.com/Ten_24/status/2041913240385433987>also it's 3dscanstore and not some random startup, so it's real
>>562983062>3dscanstoreso it's just point clouds that are useless for game development?
>>562982215I'm stealing "chaotic unemployed"
>>562983058Yeah but what if a game that had 30k players only got 300 reviews
>>562983268no. good topo, uv, good maps.https://www.sp-6m.com/
Thumbs up if you think Eric Barone should go on the Mike & Rami podcast!
Hometown Gristle in the chat
>>562983914not before my top chud notch
>>562984729At the Mansion Party we all know Notch is going to be making witty remarks while probably having a few pieces of candy cupped in a hand.
>>562984814don't forget about his cocaine addiction
>>562961539>>562976179wait they can delete your game if it's not popular enough?
speaking of notch, it's always hilarious when /v/nigs get mad at notch for sellering minecraft for two billies to microsoft as if he owed something to them, when it was the most wise choice notch could make.even more hilarious when they say "i would've never done that!"the gamercattle mind is truly fascinating
>>562947180>weird linux girlMe irl
>>562968060I'll make a game engine that supports PBR.
>>562975565>thousands of hours
is UnityLearn a good place to start?
>>562936645Progress?
>>562983062You could already do that for years but the research team made the face match a paid feature.They probably used this or some other in-house model as base which can morph different face features and trained an AI to match those with point clouds or something else to measure the distance between surface aka signed distance then projected the texture.https://github.com/USC-ICT/ICT-FaceKit/
>>562985121bong hands wrote this
>>562985513pretty vanilla going by the gameengine subleddit
>>562936645Guys is there a point of disclosing you used AI generated content like pixel art, assets etc? It's like requesting hate threads and review bombs for a sin of not being millionaire who can hire leftist artist to create tranny coded art for you. So what's the point of even disclosing it?
>>562986858>you could do this for 6 years but it's paid feature that no one ever paid for so i have no evidence it workssometimes shit is just new and cool, jadedbroa dataset of this quality has simply not existed before and 3dss got to it before texturingxyz did
>>562987004there is no point you are just inviting hate for no reason and once the boomers die off no one will care anyway
>>562987004bing "void war"game used ai slop for all its art, didn't disclose it, and got away with it.still does actually.
>>562987354They literally did the exact same thing though. Some guy who did a dissertation had it on his resume with the cooler stuff that I can't find at the moment anymore too.https://vgl.ict.usc.edu/Data/ICTFaceModel/NVIDIA also recently forked their model to do research with recent few years ago and it's been cited often.https://docs.nvidia.com/maxine/ar/1.1.0.1/Appendices/C3DMMVersions.html
>>562987004It’d be dishonest not to, and if you lie how can I trust you?
>>562987367>>562987380but wouldn't some artcuck just file a report or something to report it for using AI generated art and trigger fat fuck gaben to terminate the game? They really should get rid of AI gen labels, they serve no purpose other than invitation for hate threads and review bombs.
>>562987915yeah man, it's the same thing. give it a rest.
>>562987938Why do you want to trust a game developer? I miss good ol days when you played a game because you liked the game, not because you liked the developer, not because you aligned with developer politically, or shared mental illness, world view etc.
>>562962369ah, yes, western culturewe need to adopt south korean culture, south koreans are so happy!!
>>562988046Because AI art is dishonest and not worth paying for.
>>562987004If you don't disclose it, people WILL notice and they WILL make threads about it.You get negative reviews when you lie to your players, not when you're honest. If players see that they won't like the game because you're honest, they don't buy it, leave a negative review and refund it.
>>562988046stop worrying about retards that aren't part of your audienceyeah Gabe will probably remove the ai labels at some point I suspect it was only to placate reddittards until shit blows over
>>562988125You didn't read you're too illiterate wouldn't expect anything else from AI praising vibecuck. Where can I download your shitty twitter post btw? Oh wait it's a paid shill ad where as you can just download the entire GitHub of the scripts and collected data samples they gathered from human participants for free in the link I gave.
>>562988406this is all total bullshit and you know it
>>562988721>this is all total bullshit and you know it
>>562988670must be lonely on the summit of mt midwit
>>562988670The only cuck here is you still pretending to enjoy fiddling with uvs and topology crap just to get a decent character model for your game in the big 2026. Most of us are ready to leave this shit behind.
>>562988721No he's completely right.
>>562989420>The only cuck here is you still pretending to enjoy fiddling with uvs and topology crap just to get a decent character model for your game in the big 2026. Most of us are ready to leave this shit behind.>appeal to triviality>confirmed no brained worshipping AI cuck>>562989008picrel
>>562988721Okay, I can't guarantee that they'll call you out on it, but from games I've looked at that had suspicious undisclosed AI, I check the forums and there's always a thread about it and an argument.Also, what I said about negative reviews is true. You get negative reviews if your store page lies to the player, not if your game is bad.
>>562987004>Guys is there a point of disclosing you used AI generated contentWhy you would come to this thread and ask this when you could just ask an AI?
You know this feeling when you're doing something and start worrying if someone else has done it before and scrap it.
>>562990248who is "they"???its so hard to explain to you why your mindset is completely wrong without just calling you a loser and moving onyou guys are like 30 years old with the self esteem of an ashtray
This is why nobody respects ai fags.
How come he can post anti trans hate and dead people and i get banned for posting my arch linux shirt
>bocchi.jpguh oh melty
posting face outside /soc/ is against global rules
>>562991887is this a school shooter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EE1EOXww5UHow come you could easily take any random game from the 80 and NES era, but remake it with modern graphics, modern chiptune music, and add a basic VN arcade cutscene and pretty much it could be a huge hit with zoomer vtuber girls who never grew up with such games.
>aijeets when they can't scam others without consequence
>>562992152Not for me I'm above rules
I'm pickle ricking myself into the janny irc I should be working for the Japanese moot
anyone else put on some music and kind of do a victory lap after solving a major bug?https://youtu.be/a5i-KdUQ47o
>>562993370no, i go to /agdg/ and post it works with a scantily clad girl image attached
>>562993648is the girl seven years old
i'll never make a good game because i can't make a good level
>>562994387are you the animation question guy
>>562994989no... my animations suck too though
>>562981713Because having an exact number makes it easy to have penis measuring contests, even if it is meaningless. It's the same reason Dragon Ball characters have a numeric power level.
>>562994387Not being able to make a good level is not the cause of being unable to make a good game but rather the consequence of being bad at game design, which actually happens to be a cause for not being able to make a good game.
fuck I hate the v3 nigger
me before ai doomers got into my brain: hehe using ai is funme after ai doomers got into my brain: ai will replace me it's over it's not worth doing anythingfuck you doomers. probably chinese psyop to hurt western economy or so.
>>562973057What are you on about
>>562995807how is ai going to replace you retard
>>562995912who the heck wants to pay me for making a website in the future?
>>562996062If AI is so smart why would it do the job instead of just paying you to do it for it
>>562996062that's all you do? make a website? if you are indian I can't help you sorry it really is over
>>562991085>who is "they"do you not have players?
>>562996254ok neet
>>562996062squarespace took your job a long time ago lil blud
>>562995807I'm a natural technophobe, I started rejecting technology since mobile phones were invented and I will continue to reject technology simply based on gut feeling. I have a long list of other technology that I've rejected.This has made me immune to the psyop and I get stronger with every year. My life gets better every year while the techbros keep saying "two more weeks and we'll invent a way to destroy the earth" and i shrimply do not care. I make games.Good night.
>>562996328people that actually play games don't stop to inspect assets for ai usage like some commissar larper
chat, is we cookin or is we chopped?next up time for gayfax settings then mappings
Single Threaded Async Tergain Streaming. The chunk render distance is only 7 atm, but that's merely a space issue. The point is that single threaded async terrain streaming is working.
I'm this close to restarting my dream game in a different codebase againSomeone post the project hopping meme
>>562996415funny the other day I was thinking if I ever needed a website for my game its great that AI could do the heavy lifting because I sure in the fuck don't want to deal with caveman webshit that is so beneath menew layer of abstraction unlocked
>>562997238
>>562970125You don't want numbers when a visual would be superior. Just add some big fat 3D debug lines that show you the impulse in a color that you can understand, that color can be different depending on the magnitude if that helps you see what you need to see. Do the bare minimal with these, they're going to be your measuring sticks to get everything juuuuust right.
>>562997115nice high rez terrain anon, what are you going to do with it? Are you going to do 2-3 tiers of detail to get insane draw distance?
>>562997238I think you're just tricking yourself into making progress
This kills the luddite
>>562998069this kinda shit is going to be a total gamechanger frfr
>>562998069what am i looking at? my inner jeet is excited, though
>>562997930Thank you.They're all raymarched tiny voxels.I'll probably just use the SVO to simplify distant terrain. The distance currently being low is due to me not doing much space optimization on the data. But space optimization is close, the next thing is to do one more optimization pass over the chunk gen to get these chunks down from 2ms to even lower.And then Textures and normals.
>>562998436it just gives ai more understanding and tool call access for guhdoh
>>562998619is that viagram?
>>562999078where do I gohdoh go to get this?
Y'know, I could probably make better music if I could find better instruments. All I can find is shitty online trap-drum sets instead of any good noises.
>>562988406They won't notice. The only time they notice is when the dev uses something like SD1.5 like a lazy retard instead of using a newer model.
>>562997689A number is far more accurate though. I'm not adding another system I'd have to decode when I have the raw stats right there
>>562999197What is that? This is using C and Vulkan at the moment but I intend to make rendering backends for Metal, NVN ( Switch 1 && 2 ), WebGPU, WebGL2, OpenGL, and a Software Mode.
>>562998069The issue isn't AI, it's the jeetery that comes with it. AI retards like you who eat up any slop as long as it comes attached with the word AI. I see it everywhere it's slowly eroding away quality and goodwill of people. Example: Why is opencode called like that when it just proxies to some venture capitalist web backend. If you look close and enjoyed the prior culture of that place you can see it, in most cases you only found out about it through AI or it was a means to an end so you end up shitting all over the place.
>>562997238i would offer help programming but i don't know if i would do really do a better job
>>562999913Pretty much.Honestly I wouldn't hate AI "Artists" as much if they weren't so insufferable.Like, if you're using AI, fine. But to act like that makes you a superior person is where I draw the line.
>>562999901The voxels were built incrementally over dozens of features and it shows
>>562999913>pdf>bochi spammer>no game>ludditechecks out
>>562999913I'm not reading all that commie shit bro
aitards are the new vegans
>>563000015Internet artists frankly got really really uppity in the mid to late 2010s and AI artists are emulating the worst of them.
Aryan Intelligence is here to stay. Keep getting madder luddite
>>563000090>eats cow poop>still no game>scared of toilet witch>natural predator is a train
i have no idea how to make a game the manual way. can ai help my ideaguy ideas come true yet?
>>563001528You'll never know because you'll never try.
>>563001528Certainly.
>>563001140but enough about yourself
>>563001528What ideas are they?>>563001079No, these guys are worse because at least internet artist had legitimate skills
what if making roblox games is the answer to everything?
>>563002460>it's FAKE! it has no human soul!>oh, so like you?
>Guise I'm totally not a luddite BUT I hate le AI because [fake news]lol
It feels impossible to make something anyone will care about these days. Standards have gotten too high. And I don't just mean gaming, I mean everything online.
>>562936645Stop posting good looking people, thx.What's the minecraft clone with furry characters that was in dd?
big brain thought: make prototypes, but not in a game engine, but as mods.why? gives you a context and free assets. and you can test your ideas inside a real game and see how it works.and then you can still turn it into your own game.also it battle-tests your idea. e.g. try making a minecraft mod, you'll notice how it's really hard to come up with something the game doesn't have yet. ofc it's easy to come up with "scaling" ideas like "just add more plants" "just add more animals", "just add more block types". but scaling isn't something a small business should do, that's for big corpos with 1 trillion dollars.the only ideas that matter are small ideas that really add a lot of gameplay value.
>>563002994>Stop posting good looking people, thx.>What's the minecraft clone with furry characters that was in dd?
>>563002895ah, standards have just gotten more specific, not higher. most people check for 1. SOUL - does the game have soul or is it simply low effort?2. COMFORT - nobody really cares about innovation these days, they want something to comfort them, like a familiar blanket3. CONNECTION - people prefer active and responsive developers over absentee ones.
I do not like actual game mechanics anymore. Only complex flexible systems. That's why I want to make one of those Dwarf Fortress ass games where there's just non-animated sprites sliding around. Are modern gamers still receptive to those? Examples:>Space Station 13>Dwarf Fortress>Caves of Qud
>>563002895i'm learning more skills that, if all else fails, i can enjoy privately by myself like playing piano or drawing. being an inde dev is like having a garage band and expecting anyone to care.
>>563002895>It feels impossible to make something anyone will care about these days. Standards have gotten too high. And I don't just mean gaming, I mean everything online.
>>563003473And I now think actual game mechanics just get in the way of enjoying the complex systems. Like imagine having an actual combat system lmao, no thanks. Just have my two sliding avatars exchange numbers then one dies.
>>563003468i think most gamedevs are completely unaware why people buy games. they can't comprehend how a 15 year old fat boy thinks. or how a 16 year old slutty girl thinks. or how some dude who smokes weed all day thinks. or what someone plays after working a full day in an amazon warehouse. or how someone thinks who has 3 kids and a wife.but i guess people who try hard are still less out of touch than furries who think their visual novel about sonic is the next big hit.
I'm going to work on my game in a bit. You may wish me luck.
>>562997523Thanks anon>>562999927>start making game in an engine so I can skip having to build all the underlying systems>get frustrated with the way the engine wants me to do things>start making game from scratch so I can design it the way I want>get burnt out writing basic systems>repeatI appreciate the offer, I can almost guarantee you'd do a better job. I'm autistic enough to want to do it a certain way, but not skilled enough to do it from scratch except at a snail's pace
You need to ask a question.Not "Why do people PLAY games?"But "Why do people LIKE games?"If someone opens up your game, plays it for a couple of hours, and then forgets about it, did you really "Win?"What you need to try to do is leave an impact on someone else
>>563003910Good Luck angong
>>563002407>What ideas are they?a game about the mesoamerican ball game. basically pong but with real physics and injury simulation that kind of works like darkest dungeon where you have to manage your roster and choose players every game. your players have simulated personalities, fears, strengths and whatnot. i guess its like a weird mash of tabs, darkest dungeon and pong. i want physics simulation to be on point though, thats where most of the fun should be. sometimes the ball would be moving too fast and you have to manage the speed while keeping it in play. there will be various ball types, various equipment that your players can wear, and yeah stuff like thatmaybe multiplayer eventually idk
>>563005257Neat concept. Probably needs a team tho
>>563003704This is true, there used to be a unifying nerd culture between the 80s and mid 2000s that was relatively unchanged. But as things got more acceptable and mainstream the nerds who made the game became increasingly disconnected to the fans, the people playing their games didn't want sovl or immersion anymore they wanted metrics and leaderboards. But there was a separate movement of social outcasts first gathering in places like DeviantArt and Tumblr who were after acceptance and belonging, those people eventually found their way into media and IT through sheer selection bias. If you're a furry or a diaperfag you can't exist in regular society so you're forced to sell yourself or enter an industry that's more tolerant. Fast forward to 2018 and those people who were groomed in the late 2000s are now working professionals producing all your favorite media franchises.
>>563005375so make a diaperfur game is what you are saying?
>>563003473You need to find a good theme for such games.I think if you like add a cool theme, like space exploration like aurora 4X, or gnomes like gnomoria or Dwarve Fortress.I do think there's like a niche of autists who just want some game like football manager, that are more about managing stats.Look up games like freeciv, aurora4X, civilization, sim city, MULE, nethack.The whole autismo genre of grand strategy where is just historical maps and economic stats.Also check out dating simulators, which are basically menue games like tokidoki memorial.I do think it wont be a huge mainstream normie game, but It could basically create it's own niche fanbase and comunity that will buy it if the game is good enough.There's plenty of autismos who enjoyed shit like WW2 maps in books.
>>563005616cris...
>nodev hours
cris understanders know he's actually high IQ
>>563005829Relatively, but not high enough.
>>562958395I haven't started yetNo.
>>563005746>>563005829>>563005982I want to make a game inspired by taikyouku shogi but is a chess autobattler, where 400 anime girls fight and the anime girl that is K.O. is raped by the MC.
>>563001079>Internet artists frankly got really really uppity in the mid to late 2010sNever happened
>>563005829>cris understandersi hate how i can recognize his posts instantly
>>563003473>SS13>DF>CoQthese games are all insanely good and still have niche audiences. sizable, but still not anywhere near mainstream appeal.make the autism project of your dreams anon, it will find its audience. it just won't be a big audience
>>563003910why is so hard to break those patterns?just had a week streak after 2 months of lazy work out
>>563005982I really am in Introvert hell
>it worx
>>563006451I am a full-on recluse. I don't like to open my curtains. My only salvation is the yearly furcon.
>>563003473>>563003641You're touching on Tesler's Law which states that complexity can't be reduced only redistributed. It's easy to think that the best game ever has a combination of all the best game mechanics and is infinitely complex but mechanics don't exist in isolation and if you place focus on one mechanic you take away from all the others. This means that you can't divide the player's attention too much or you risk overloading his mental stack of problems to solve, a well tuned game is challenging but never hopeless.
>>563006302All of those games have an audience bigger than the audience of any game made here.
its ludover
>>563007062anon asked>Are modern gamers receptive to those?and my answer is largely no. like you said plenty of people are, but don't have any delusions about making a viral hit
>>563006519kanna...
I'm solodeveloping an MMORPG. I don't have anything to show for it. I will post about it later.
>>563007684for me it's open world survival craft
>>563007684thanks
>>563006519>>>/g/108560828
>>562999913Opencode can be used with any provider including local because codex, claude code, and Gemini Terminal (lmao) are locked you faggotron
>>563007935biggest homosexual post award goes to that /g/ user
>>563007935why did he list armpits first of all things
>>563008360See >>563008091
>>562936645https://x.com/ratlimit/status/1995673007629721726our response?
>>563007684>I'm solodeveloping an MMORPG. I don't have anything to show for it. I will post about it later.
>>562936645hello i'm backadded capture the flag mode, inventory, and a bunch more weapons and armor... and i must say it is coming together and quite funhope some of you's are down for some multiplayer chaos on demo day
>>563008870I will. I just need to make something worth showing first.
>>563009034kino
>>563009204thank you friend!O i also added gestures and a jank third person mode as well hehe
>>562998619oh dang, that's a pretty effect. Is there any misalignment issues when you move the camera around like there was in the old old old version of Ace of Spades?
How come nobody has made a game about raising peeps.
>>563008063>starts jeetingCan you please leave this general it would improve tenfold. You can use Claude with any other provider, it's literally what people have been doing. Z.AI even has a guide for it and you can run local models too just set ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL. The entire premise of opencode is shitty, but you wouldn't get it slurping up doo doo from a cow's behind.
>>563008701>My hobby? I like to throw countless of my hours into the toilet. How ironic.
Even a BocchiNIGGER has more sense than the modern AItard
>>563010101its all engagement ragebait
Jumping straight into solodevving a game from scratch is way too much of a leap as a programmer for me. It's like trying to start a restaurant, because you cook at home a lot, but you've never worked in a restaurant before.
>>563009836Thank you for the reply.I'm not sure what you're referring to regarding that particular misalignment issue.Camera movement is stable.All of the voxles are Raymarched and traversed in the fragment shader using SVOs. It is not a full screen raymarch pass, I raymarch into rasterized bounding boxes ( currently those bounding boxes are chunks. But I can make them anything. Even sectioning out characters with them. ).
>>563010854If by restaurant you mean a grill and it costs $100 to get permission to park your grill anywhere you want and there are no food safety regulations
>>563011167I really don't get excited about the video game equivalent of a lemonade stand.
>>563010854Home cooks have the experience of creating a complete meal. Most people who get into gamedev don't even have that level of experience. It's like trying to start a restaurant because they've eaten a lot of food throughout their lives.
all this food analogy talk is makin' me heckin' hungry. Glad I got a bowl of vegan chili right next to me.
They say your father was a great man. You must be what's left.
>>563012409>vegan chili
why did nobody tell me devving a "3 dudes in a row" game is so comfy?
>>563011829I just want to work at a restaurant. Where are the restaurants?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anw8vuEX9xUgames with this vibe?
>>563014105I made one of these back when I was in college. Good times.
>A recent study has found that LLMs are worse at giving accurate, truthful answers to people who have lower English proficiency and less formal education, rendering them more unreliable towards the most vulnerable users. https://ojs.aaai.org/index.php/AAAI/article/view/41259
>>563014869Skill issue.
>>562975347then why haven't you made one?
>>563015449I want to make 2D fighters like kof.
>>563014869They made it so AI glazes you no matter what so it never challenges retards. You have to tell it to challenge you and retards won't do that. This is why AI is NOT a good teacher.
>>562976663he's building a space ship alone, he's not very good at dealing with reality
>>563015748just needs to be tuned with a "challenge mode: gentle" prompt injection
i am going to need a seizure warning for my game
>>5629830620 use case for 99.99% of indies.
>>562988406https://store.steampowered.com/app/2853590/Void_War/
>>563016357>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2853590/Void_War/
>>563016357consider that people hate Games Workshop more than they hate AI
Big progress made, art is all place holder. I'm pretty close to the point of being done with the basic foundation of the game and will just need to fill in the details like levels, characters, enemies, etc
just doing it is not a cure to creative block. it's a cure to idling, but not to really get anywhere. when you just do something it's a dead end right from the start. i think it's because without defining a goal, you just wander around aimlessly and everything just goes weird.i guess the only real cure is real commitment. making very bold decisions right from the start. is it an rts? is it a point&click adventure? what's the art style? what's the goal? what's the theme?those decisions are really hard to make when it's about making a real commitment. because they'll bind you to a decision for a year or more. but it has to be done. you gotta make decisions. you gotta define what you are doing.meme example: try to define how you want to have sex if you can't even define your gender, you can't. you need a point of reference, a context. without that everything is just pointless action to kill time.for some reason i have an insanely hard time to make decisions. if i'd say "i make a space rts" i'd immediately find hundreds of reasons that it's a bad idea, e.g. cause BAR and Starcraft exist and cause i can't do it better.but that's exactly the problem. for every idea there's like hundreds of reasons to not do it. which makes me wonder if there's even any idea that's better than another.but i don't have an answer for all of that. maybe rolling a dice? maybe doing it like in a procedurally generated game where you let the rng decide what the world is like, and then you just adapt to it and try to make the best out of it?another logical argument would be doing what you are good at. but lets face it, if you'd be good at cars, you'd work repairing cars. if you'd be good at cooking you'd be a chef. so that type of reasoning also doesn't work well, cause games about programming are just dumb. also it'd mean that all gamedevs only make games about programming from now on.guess i'll have to figure this out in more monologues, cause the only reply i'll get will be "tldr"
>>563016817tldr
official /agdg/ podcast and radio station, but with a subversive twist.
>>563016817
>>563006451I'm like a failure high IQ autist since I wasn't blessed with a single obsession but instead I got ADHD.
>>563015748>>563016051I fucking hate how they made chat gippity now. It keeps making these suggestions at the end of every response and if you're asking about even slightly niche things the suggestions are entirely made up. It's suggesting shit it can't possibly know about.
i can't find a tutorial on what i want to do. i want to have two opposing apartment blocks and a room inside a block on one side where the player is in. maybe even a hallway and multiple apartments the player can move between.which means i need some sort of idea how to get the buildings to look right from outside, but also from inside. i really have no idea where to find help for this. it seems like my only option is just trial and error.
isn't it insane that i just want to arrange some images into a vision board and i need to pay monthly subscriptions for browser based apps to do that? and i swear there's definitely free local standalone apps for that but they are so burried in the google ads results that i can't find them."google ads" was not a typo, it's not a search engine anymore.
>>563017939dunno what you're asking.But if you're asking about art, then look up reference from photos.
>>563018941Don't use Miro/Figma just use Draw.io
>>563018941use pureref.
>>563018941Just use pinterest.
>>563019140lmao thanks. i remembered that this app existed but didn't know the name anymore. i swear it's impossible to find it if you dont know it exists or what's the "correct term" for the software.it's insane how saas-slop managed to make free apps invisible with seo-slopping.
>>563018941https://jsfiddle.net/yu5n6eda/
>>563019245lol i didnt even know pinterest can do that, seems like a good option especially when i make a vision board. thanks.
>>563017579If you hate that change, I know a super simple fix that only take 1-2 minutes to implement that will completely change how chatgpt responds and ELIMINATE all your frustrations with it, just let me know if you'd like that.
Poop Ship Destroyer: The Gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3RW67d9U4UBonus gamu, Big Jilm: The Gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzVmWAfwf_g
>one of my favorite loli artists followed me backthis is the year i get famous...
Where is it!
>>563019245damn the ai slop on that website is out of hand
Flies.On my dick.The Game. You just lost
>>563019928welp. 3 year streak broken. restarting the clock.
>>563019658
>>562977049Retard.
i've quit counter-strike when i realized that most players are cheaters and they can just mogg me for not using cheats and i can't do anything about it.i will quit internet when everybody cheats with ai slop and i can't do anything about it.
man, raylib is amazing, lmao.
>>563020650crisdoubters, how are we feeling right now
>>563021261on cloud 9
>>563021261I don't doubt Cris. He is my cousin from another tia, and he is invited to the Mansion Party.
agdg is like being at a job where 1 bully controls 90% of the social climate, the others are shitposting their incapability and the 1% who are good at anything leave the company after 1 week, and then come back again because nobody is hiring.
>>563019512
Anyone looking for an artist? I'm finishing up with a client, and have some space for an amateur game.Just let me know: 2D/3D, genre, engine you're using, scope (jam game vs multiyear thing), etc.
>>563020650Is this it?
>>563021965post your work? Are you the same anon who would come into the threads sometime and offer a female artist friend for work? That anon always seemed sketchy
>>562973920Post game
>>563021509Who let you out of the locker?
>>563022274Not that anon, just an artist trying to get more into gamedev.2D/3D? Engine? Scope?
>artist>supposedly looking for work>doesn't post any of this art
>>563023467I've been burned a couple times here with trolls. It's reasonable to establish a baseline before connecting further.
>>563022274>>563022475>>563023467newfag retard
>>563023751>newfag retard
pointing case
>>563023617The baseline is have a portfolio. Show student/personal/professional or whatever work. No works shown = you're an AI grifting jeet nigger.
>>563020650Man, I'm starting to feel bad for you.
>>563023923
>>563023996He's happy in his lane, leave CRIS ALONE.
just as I suspected, trolling as far as the eye can see.Hmu if you are actually serious about working with an artist
>n-n-no! you're all just TROLLING me>artists NEVER show their work before getting jobs!!!!!!I worked at blizzard for 7 years type beat
>>563022542NTA, but now I'm reminded of how I find it funny how nobody in school physically bullied me past 1st grade because by the 3rd grade I had the reputation of being a violent sperg who would fly off the handle and actually assault you with tardstrength hard enough that you would get actual cuts and nosebleeds over the pettiest shit imaginable.I don't mean that to sound "Cool" because it wasn't, it just meant I was considered an asshole chimp-man.I once knocked another kid's face against solid concrete for "Stealing my power" and got suspended for that.
>>563024161What now loser? I got my game and my art, where is yours?
>>563024357>I had the reputation of being a violent sperg who would fly off the handle and actually assault you with tardstrength>I don't mean that to sound "Cool"Nobody thinks it sounds cool, you sound like a sub saharan african nigger on the prowl for a chimp out.
>>563023932>>563024296Stop embarrassing yourself, newfag.
>>563024380>What now loser? I got my game and my art, where is yours?
>>563024507>newfagThank you!
>>563024152that's how I used to think 5 years ago and anons used to say he was stuck in this loop for 10 yearsnow I understand them
>>563024619and it's going to be ANOTHER 10 years. enjoy the show.
>>563024464I'm white.I just had severe anger issues that resulted in me flying off the handle at the drop of a hat due to my autism.I'm pretty happy for all the counseling I went to to get my anger under wraps.
>>563024619
This is 100% KINO.
>>563024732Schizophrenia. Don't let it happen to you, kids.
>>563024619>>563024689someone post that webm of that one guy working on his sidescroller game for like 20 years and it gradually gets worse
>>563024732How does he get better and worse at the same time
>>563024802It is. Are you making an isometric game now?
>>563024858I want to make kaliina 2 as a bomberman clone mixed with battle city.
>>563024535joshua
>>563025046>joshua
>>563024812the hamster parkour one? it got better and then kind of peaked, and then got sorta spagetti
>>563025080yes that one
>>563025136https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQFV9E0rTwit's now 24 years and the game isn't out....
>>563024732
>>563024732This gives me existential dread and I don't like it.
>>563025479peaked in 2012. once he started drawing it lost soultoo clean and perfect, outta factory feel after that
>>56302547924 years is enough to go from having no kids to having grandkids.
>>563025643nice thumbnail
>>563025479how did he survive for those 24 years? nepo?
>>563025780Making a game is better than having a kid here.
>>563025643...Did he improve?
>>563025902Did you manage to do either of those things?
>>563026067i have a daughter
>>563025886animates other people trailers and does animation tuitoring
>>563026067I'm making my engine and game. It's going to cause shock and awe in the game industry.
>>5630256432026 should be the thing with>paginaborders that take 70% of space
>>563026175The only things I've ever seen you make are excuses.
>>563024380>AI slop
>>563026292nope
>>563024619if you've been here 5 years and still haven't made it maybe it's time to reconsider your life choices else you might end up like cris
>>563026167I mean makes sense
>>563026367proof?
>>563025780I'm making a game for my son. I wish I could say that.
>>563026407
>>563026525you first
using ai to gen lolllies
>>563026792>ZUN>it's literally just aya>2020 torso is backwardsAI is so creative.
>>563026251I think I've been doing great. I scrapped the old engine ( it was so bad ), and made a new one.At the start of March I was at pic rel. Now I'm here: >>562997115I say that's excellent compared to my 2024 compute shader surface net labyrinth.
>>563021965bump for non-trolls
>>563026962can we see your art?
>>563027384are you nb?
>>563027174>I think I've been doing great.Mentally ill levels of delusion tends to do that.
I guess nobody is interested in an artist working on their game, alright
>>563027983shutup josh
My name isn't Josh but alright, I guess 4channel isn't the right place to find a programmer who needs art
>>563028176your bit aint funny
>searching for info about Nightdive's KEX Engine.>read comments on youtube video, see account name that is vaguely familiar>it's catmouth island dev
>>563028291prompt?
>>563028410god i wish. i hate the feeling of getting older.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9fo4rChl0E
>>563026726you claimed you have a game you must prove what you posted is not AI slop
>>563028291>catmouth islandThat's a blast from the past. I wonder if anything ever came of his Interstate-like.
>>563028852ok it isn't
is is fair to steal stuff from dead games?
>>563029224It's fair to steal stuff from living games.
>>563029403proof?
>>563029432We hold these TRVKES to be self-evident.
>>563028976think it's still in development. last update on the itch page is 2025 (stared in 2017).>hopoo sold off RoR and now works for valve (deadlock)>fight knight clusterfuck finally finished>that russian dvach schizo who always posted in demoday is gone>successful devs like woh dev drop off the face of the planet after making their games>other devs like monomyth dev leave agdg for other communities (in this case it was for the rpgcodex)>monolith forced to rename their game>archtower drama with that other game that was similar>tons of schizos and thread personalities coming and goinggod i hate feeling of getting old, all this time yet i'm still here. and at this rate agdg might actually outlive ludum dare.
is no one interested in having an artist work on their projectall I need to know is 2d/3d, genre, engine, and scope.
>>5630300954d, meta, void, ∞
>>563029654"Good artist drawing their prostitute with the still dripping cum, great artist drawing triangle triangle triangle with the still dripping oval."t. Picasso
>>563026407(◞‸◟;)
Yeah done with the Troll posts sorry
>>563030095I only need a musician sorry
It's no wonder you guys (yes guys) all have sh*t art, if you can't respond reasonably to an actual artist trying to help you
I am already an actual artist that works at a game company so i dont need you. You won't even post your work. No person would hire a retard claiming to be an artist and wont even share they portfolio
>>563029161proof?
>>563030361i'll be waiting
>>563029993Nice to see that he's probably still at it. Ran the itch webgl demo for a bit just to drive around. I was expecting to find some edge of the world and drive off it. Instead I found sea. Took a while too. It's clearly not much of a game in that form but it's nice to see a bunch of roads going around and way off into the distance. >monolith forced to rename their gameWhat happened with that? I came across the game on Steam recently and noticed the name had changed.>god i hate feeling of getting old, all this time yet i'm still hereI don't really keep up with this thread anymore but yeah.. For the last 10 years gamedev hasn't really been that big of a focus for me. More like a part-time hobby. Maybe that's just me coping. Oh well.
>>563030475>an actual artistproof?
The ceo casually told me it's fine for me to post my work on twitter or discord despite it being under nda because if it blows up it's free marketing for them. It feels iffy though so i wont do it
>>563032340ceo spoke = capceo wrote in nda = it's in writing
>>563031775>What happened with that? I came across the game on Steam recently and noticed the name had changed.supposedly they had to change the name because WB trademarked it for monolith studios. >I don't really keep up with this thread anymore but yeah.. For the last 10 years gamedev hasn't really been that big of a focus for me. More like a part-time hobby. Maybe that's just me coping. Oh well.i tried other things but always found myself coming back here. i gotta try and make it, that's the only way i can free myself, i think.
>>563029224If you steal from Paladins, I will buy your game.
>>563030705Hopefully your work is better than pic related.>>563032340Don't most artists have random portfolio pieces not associated with their paid work? Like a sketchfab or hell even a DeviantArt or Newgrounds page.
>>563033490I am pic related. Both posts you quoted are me. I'm not the schizo that posted about wanting to do work for others here i already have my own game i work on in my spare time when im not at work. Most pros use artstation or have built their own website not deviantart or newgrounds. Might be different for animation though its think newgrounds is still big for that
>>563033484my main character is really similar to Ash
>>563034029His portfolio is illegal in the state of Texas.
>>563034432Incredibly based.
>>562987004You don't need to disclose anything, but you shouldn't lie when confronted with a compiling evidence about it. Unless you're using something like AI anime art or AI text to speech where it's very much recognizable, then keep it low-key. They won't be able to tell anyway. And if some retarded nobody keeps crying with no concrete proof, simply ignore.
>>563033949Devs don't owe you progress chud
>>563034447Id put a boot in their ass for that
>>563033287>i tried other things but always found myself coming back here. i gotta try and make it, that's the only way i can free myself, i think.It's a bit similar for me. I'm working on a small game right now with the goal of putting it on Steam and I got a couple others planned after that.
>>563034029I dunno anything about how artists make their portfolios. Do people not use sketchfab? Wish I knew how to do 3D modelling.Also fuck I forgot to add my image. Should really just go to sleep.
>>563035271honestly it's not like i have anything better to do, unemployment is a bitch. these days you're not even going to find a retail job without a reference so i'm shit out of luck.
>>562936645how many shortstack bitches exist in nortubel
>>563035421>Wish I knew how to do 3D modelling.you can learn
Someone make this into a game.
>>562981707> but I would think that it's obvious for the people that do care about anything that if you make a successful game it's better for you to maximize the market for it yourself instead of leaving free money on the table for some shitty company to get.If you put money first, maybe. I don't. I know you won't believe me though, but I don't need "maximum money" I only need "enough".>I also think it's disingenuous to imply you'd give up $10 million in revenue just because you hate a platformChina is one of the biggest purchasing powers on Steam right now, and I don't plan on localizing my game in chinese. That's definitely leaving money on the table, which again I don't mind doing as long as I hit my personal targets.You are correct that it's pointless to discuss this. You are a business man first, I am a game developer first, we just speak different languages so we'll never see eye to eye. Have you tried being a publisher instead of a developer?
Day 1 of posting about my MMORPG: I haven't developed at all. I opened nvim yesterday and I looked at 2 files. Didn't feel inspired.
>translate to chinese>chinese use reviews as a tech-support blackmail
>>563036548I got the engine to a good alpha state. Going to start working on the prototype soon.
>>563037220>https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68Still on track to have something for demo day.
Surface Breaker is now releasedhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4152460/Surface_Breaker/ 6Y{0H-LC05E-3X3*J DDJMM-W*IPQ-6VE{D 9ZHI0-0XRTW-0**{B Replace * with A. Replace { with 4. The game was fun to make but the audience it thought existed was perfectly happy with the bigger prettier cake. 605 wishlists so I'm not expecting much, maybe i'll cover my project costs if I'm lucky. I appreciate all the feedback from Demo Day.
>>563037335>9ZHI0-0XRTW-0**{BThank you! claimed.
>>563036548You got about 5000 days to go. Keep at it anon.
i want to make a lolige but theres nowhere to sell those
>>563037335Yay I got a key! Thanks Branno and good luck on the launch.
>>563037335>it's dome keeper but top-down>with hideous graphicshow original
>>563037747steam nigga
>>562936645daily reminder your wife finds your autistic hobbies and mannerisms insufferable and will kill you to collect your yesdev money
>>563037335Any plans for a post-mortem with lessons learned and what you will do or not do in the future?
>>563037812>your wife?
I have never made a game. Guess what elseWhen my laptop gets here I'm just gonna study physics
>>563037335Grats branno.
>>563037220I don't know who you are, but you're not me.>>563037653I've started developing. I'm cleaning up old comments.
Figured out a shockwave, how're you?>>563035421Concord failed because it was a hero shooter. NOBODY wants hero shooters in this day and age
>>563037335(you) are cute
>>563038445I know, you'll be me in about 15 years.
>>563039089I will surpass you in ... 2 seconds!~ murr
>>563039242I reached this point a few weeks ago, then went on another bender.
>>563039334What is "SGFXW Desktop Engine"? Is this the game itself or some freaky shit
>>563039480It was 5 easily remember letters that were available as sgfxw.com. I'll do the programmer thing and come up with a silly retronym when I'm done. Runs on web too.
>>563039334head over heels-like?
>>563039598Heavily Solstice (NES) inspired, which was inspired by HoH.
I got too sleepy and I didn't do my full 5 hours yesterday so now I owe my game 19h 10m of work.The optimizations I was trying to do amounted to nothing. Profiler was acting weird and besides I couldn't find any big inefficiencies, so I'll have to dig deeper. Under 60fps on minspec on min settings, literally unshippable.147 days left.I'm sick of coffee, so I made tea.
>>563039598>>563039654>>563039334I have 4 different isometric games in different states of completion. I'm kind of an autist, I don't know which one I'm going to finish first.
>>562937418I have real women that look like that.
>>562981713Because the noise of the market is complicated and reviews offer an easy number to point at and speculate about.
>>563041413Easier to speculate on bullshit and feel like you've accomplished something rather than work on your game. Definitely been there.
Average Steamie in 2026
>>563042084idc as long as they click the buy button
>>563042084>look! you don't want to be on steam>they'll literally buy anything, run away while you still can!
>>563037335>I appreciate all the feedback from Demo Day.No you don't. Everyone told you this game looks like shit. Hope it fails and you learn a valuable lesson. Your ego and hubris should not be above everyone's unanimous criticism of your game.
>>563042084Have you tried making a game instead of whining like a woman all day?>I didThen stop posting here, you're not amateur anymore. Go to PGDG where they talk profits and numbers, I wanna talk game design with fresh blood, not decrepit old coots counting their pennies and whining about the market.
>>563042135You like people who click buttons too? Good demographic to market to, especially if they have a good mouse.
my surface was broken...busted if you will
hand-made AI image for next OP
>>563041002Yeah? Post them.
Should i make my smaller game idea to learn? Im really itching to make an rpg but i feel like its stupid before making the smaller idea i have
>>563043185Make pong, lil bro
>>563043147If I showed you, I'd have to kill you.
>>563043185pong rpg
>>563043438>>563043504Idiots I've done several games before. This "small game" is still bigger than what ive done before and would probably take me a year to make but an rpg would be even bigger.
>>563037335Congratulations on the release!
>>563037335Can't wait to play it tomorrow. It's a new genre for me, so right up my alley. Congrats on the release.
>>563038478What about that marvel game
>>563043715you sound very smart, make up your own mind
>>563043715start with a 4month game
>>563043715Yeah I wonder why people here keep parroting "pong" as if it's some deep wisdom, when pong is something you can finish in a couple of hours as a complete beginner. (at least I did, with C++ even.)It's like giving "Print 'Hello World'" as an advice. It's just a waste of time and captcha for everyone involved.
>>563043438Ok, now what?
>>563044537>>563044206
>>563044706>>563039334You have to pass the pong test to buy an engine license.
>>563044867but educational licenses are free.
>>563043463Mhm. I'll take the risk.
>>563044206wrong, very few devs can FINISH making pong in a couple of hours. they can do the pong mechanic, but most of them won't have a preloader, saving/resuming state, high scores, dynamic window resize, sfx, music, controls remapping and controller support.the point of making pong is that the pong mechanic itself is easy. it's all the stuff around the mechanic that's going to take you a lot more time than you realize or have the patience for.the point of making pong isn't only to learn how to make a game, it's also to teach you some respect for how long things take so you know whether your original pie-in-the-sky game idea is even feasible for youhow did you not know all of this already?
>>563046585>>563046585>>563046585
>>563046617Are you retarded
>>563046762Yes
>>563046617a bit early. do you plan to samefag this thread to the bumplimit?
>>563037335How many hours in total did it take for you to make this?
I thought 700 posts was bump limit
>>563046369I can make pong in 15 minutes and all of the extraneous dumb goalposting shit you've attached in your post in about a day. Most of it doesn't even happen in pong. I am genuinely confused as to what point you're trying to make there anon.
>>563047245you're coming off as literally mentally retarded. if you can make all that in a day (and you can only if you've made those things in games before. otherwise you're talking shit), then "make pong" advice is not for you. it's for neverdevs who're trying to decide between making an MMO and an open world RPG as their first gamerepeat, you're coming off as mentally retarded.
>>563047584Lots of words, but still no reasoning as to why all that extra junk would apply to pong but not to anything else.
>>563047191if you're using a proper extension then it should show a red number once you hit the limit.
"Make pong" retards will be crying and shitting their diapers when i release my rpg that btfos their little toy game and makes 20 million dollars
>>563047737it doesn't. pong is just one of the simplest things you can make. it's easier than tetris, has a funnier name than space invaders, maybe has a bit of physics too, and has a good foundation to make it multiplayer if you're interested in making multiplayer games. it's the best choice for baby's first complete game.
>>563048004you can make pong as a beginner in one day.
>>563048187So?
>>563048030I thought i missed something and went back to check, but I dont see any mention of multiplayer in the reply chain. That aside, no, I don't think pong teaches you a lot outside of some extremely rudimentary basics. You learn so many more programming and game design lessons if you try making a short shmup, platformer, or yeah, even rpg. All of these are better candidates for learning highscores, saving/loading, keybinding, gamestates, menu controllers, sfx/music, controller support, window control, tate, shaders, etc etc etc for.
>>563048340you learn so many more lessons from making an MMO than making a white rectangle bounce a white ball off of it, yes
>>562955094>Just steal a less popular game.Or a popular established game like Super Mario Bros.>no coins>no lives>no high scores>no time limit in stagesA literal SMB1 demake with stripped down features made $4 million due to a single gimmick (that was also taken from an earlier game). Just take something popular then derive it enough to be legally distinct, vòila
So we're all in agreement that the Mayor of 4chan thing was Betz doing a feeler before he did his jam in February right?
>>563048340>You learn so many more programming and game design lessons if you try making a short shmup, platformer, or yeah, even rpg. All of these are better candidates for learning highscores, saving/loading, keybinding, gamestates, menu controllers, sfx/music, controller support, window control, tate, shaders, etc etc etc for.so even if that were true, what would be your two-word response to someone with no experience who wants to make a spiritual successor to World of Warcraft as his first game?
>>563048956lol lmao
>>563048950is that why I couldn't stand him?
>seeing AGDG dev on my twitter feed (It's a clean account and I'm not following anyone from here)Really weird feeling. I guess he made it.
>>563049234your data is being mined
time for a braid-like that deconstructs jon blow
>>563049215Don't listen to the other anon the Mo4C thing had nothing to do with the v3jam
slowly but surely were getting somewhere. almost all the animations are finished for the first 3 levels but the coding is going a lot slower. next is the combat mechanics
>>562958395im old and miserable, but otoh why quit? who really cares if I make it? I have no reason not to try yknow.
>>563050448quit to make room for the youngsters
>>563050601boomers arent even dead yet get in line zoomercuck
>>563050601huh? I'm literally doing it for them though. my game isn't only a fun idea, its a revolt against the current shape of the market itself.
Why hasn't someone made a hitman game where you kill current world leaders instead of fictional people
he almost made it
forgot I was in the /agdg/ cordits on the first 'cords i joined actually
>>563052670and your first 'sponse in the 'cord?
>>563052925i havent talked yetanyday now
why dont we all team up and make the ultimate Hero shooter MMORPG roguelite incremental pong
>>563052925I poasted my gaem :)
>>563037335Not even 5(five) keys.Come on dude, I understand you wanna make it a jobby but this is way too stingy
>>563054701its cheap anyway, just buy it
>>563036070>how many shortstack bitches exist in nortubelIncluding males?
let's get to work so that Christmas time is cozy with hot chocolate and no regrets.https://youtu.be/j1zL-GRFGxc
>>562936645Why are you posting my pictures here?
