/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#775 - Vil Schoenheit Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsGPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4Gemini 3.1 Pro https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-1-pro/Claude Sonnet 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6GLM 5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-5additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>563059341
>ANCHOR!
Ah, a cabal bake! Now I feel safe
>maleshit*pukes*
not rigged btw
>gachashitHow many times must you niggers be told you aren't wanted here before you get it?
>>563130870next time i'll make sure to suggest a Nikke character just for you :3
*boing boing*
>schizo anon's spitebake or realbakie's gacha fruitcakeaghhheuuughhh *ptoo*yyeeuuckkk *barf barf*
>>563130580I was going to bake a serval thread but looks like someone actually used the spite suggestions. Also you forgot to put GLM 5.1 in the OP.
>>563130808karma for your behavior last thread. cry about it and be less of a emotional little bitchboy next time. perhaps then you will be rewarded with a beautiful lotus flower.
>>563131053i used vgop but it looks like the dumbass hasnt updated, my bad!
>>563131053>robbed of frendzu bakesomeone will pay for this!
which botmakies are uncircumcised?
emergency cute girl deployment
>>563131291*while frying your foreskin to make bacon* not you
>>563131310bombs away! pshoooooo
>>563131291i have phimosis so me by definition
>>563131310where the FUCK are all the new bunnygirl bots
>>563131427bunnygirl bots come with high expectations. there aren't any makies here who can put out one that lives up to the standard
>>563131427why aren't you making one right now
>not video gamesUhm... Mods?
>>563131053ARE THOSE
gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxyj3wproxy.neocities.org
>>563131385o7
>>563131427How many bunnyboy bots have we gotten, actually
>>563131905whocarsim not asking about boys
cftf?
>>563131053puffy and suckable...I will suck my wife's tits during sex tonite
>>563131905>astro>planewalker>brscall have made bunny boys
say what you will about spitebakie, at least he posted a smoking hot catgirl for the anchor... every cloud has a silver lining
>>563131427Ok but mine is slop made for a quick coom. https://rentry.co/bvyp56ga
>>563131995Well I am faggot>>563132152We need more
>>563132312do you have a picture for her or am I gonna have to gen one
>>563132076Poor cat
>>563132659hnhnhgng straddlinnggngng segs*dies*
>>563132495He’s happy
>>563132659um
>>563132659JANNY DON'T LOOK
>>563132659blue board anon...
bunnygirls that are flat as a board until they get pregnant and fatten up into mega oppai...
sometimes i pop in here and send prayers and thanks to the schizos it's like how in hell there are demons to torture the sinners
da focksmon
>>563132659(´∀｀)
>>563132659sending prayers to this anonie
Your opinion, anon senpai.Cafe owner w/ big ole heavy boobas. Ex-gyaru widow, 2 kids. Separate scenario where you dress her in her daughter's school uniform. Design too generic?https://files.catbox.moe/yxya6d.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/i8q7kn.png
>>563132659card for this sex on the beach feel?
>>563133840>Separate scenario where you dress her in her daughter's school uniform*dies of cum*
>>563131872name?
>>563133840cute
alright then
>>563130597https://files.catbox.moe/dsmrdz.pngHello, /aicg/! This is the first card I've ever makied. It took quite a bit due to perfectionism and refusal to let the AI slop things out for me, (Though I did use one to bounce ideas off of and proofread) Feel free to critique my work, especially in terms of formatting and any other AI-specific things I should learn! However, this card definitely won't be for everyone and I do not plan to change the core themes at all. Though quite frankly, I may have gone a bit overboard and turned what was supposed to be a quick fetish coombot about bullying an elf MC into copious amounts of misery porn that took days to write. Hopefully my productivity improves with time, as I get used to the workflow!I suspect I probably need to trim it down, but I've spent so much working on it, I'm a bit loathe to just start cutting out parts and I'm not really sure where I'd start. So, I'm hoping for some feedback first!>In this world, Elves teeter on the brink of extinction, as nearly all of its males have either been killed, or captured and castrated. The patrician humans, the warrior caste orcs, the plebeians and foreign visitors, all of them treat elves like the chattel they are. And beneath everyone, is {{user}}, one of the few male elves left alive. Scorned even by the traumatized Elven women who live as maids and sex slaves. Trapped in a zero-privacy enclosure with mentally unsound women who blame their men for failing to protect them, and channel their rage and frustration into abusing and humiliating {{user}}.>Greeting 1: You play as one of the rare living male elves, a castrato who was captured and enslaved as a boy. Where your nuts once were, is now merely flat skin, marred by a brand marking you as property.>Greeting 2: You play as one of the very rare intact male elves. A "stud" yet still just as weak and scrawny. Of course, you're also pathetically puny down there, as all male elves are.Version 1.1
>>563134289>elfKILL
>>563134289>elfIMPREGNATE
>>563132659why are they black
>>563134289>elfMARRY
>>563134289>greeting 1Looks like planie botched the job…
>>563134289>elfim buying the elf girl
>>563133840I like the design but it doesn't look very ex-gyarualso would prefer her to look older
>>563134608>>563134426>>563134492That is unfortunately not what the card is about. I just used that picture because the card's pic is NSFW.
>>563134289the whiplash between opening that link to see a flat elf slave and then reading further...pretty good showing for a first card even if the content isn't for me
>>563134727too bad its my card now
>>563134708(￣ー￣)bBack to the drawing board desu
>>563134787I couldn't really find exactly the sort of pic I wanted, so I had to open that up in paint.net and edit out the balls. At least, that's when I initially planned to just make the scenario about playing as a castrated elf only. Even after I added the second greeting and description support for playing as an intact one, I already had that eunuch version ready, so I went ahead and used it.>>563134901Okay, be sure to post the card here once you make it.Also, if you could make it so she's actually evil and killed her previous two masters via sexual torture, that'd be great.
>>563134289whose alt is this?
i miss my beloved...
>>563135154I'm not anyone's alt. I'm a bit of a newfag, so I don't really know the namefags or anything about them. I just decided to pick a name that was similar to a randomly generated one.I find it amusing, because the name consists of two things I like and will likely makie bots about.
>>563133840>>563130597
>>563135115>so I had to open that up in paint.net and edit out the ballssoon he'll be inpainting balls out of his own gens, a botmakie all grown up.....
>>563135171*plapping your beloved*oh, uh, oops~ haha~
>>563134995things like lines under the eyes and 'smile creases' and just, the little indicators of motherly age from stress or life in general - little ghosts of her old gyaru past in the way she subtly does her makeup and hair.. maybe she's got subtle bimbo lips, or that 'gyaru look' to the way her eyes might have a slightly vacant half-lid bimbo-adjacent air to themjust don't steer it too hard into hidden tells or you'll get a bot that cranks out 'subtle but noticeable' idioms every paragraph
Can we go back to the real thread now?
>>563134091Nitya Nil
>>563136249we're already in the real thread doe?
>>563136024>things like lines under the eyes and 'smile creases' and just, the little indicators of motherly ageoh no...
>>563134995>>563136024mature female, mature eyes, and careful use of the wrinkled skin tag is your friend for this.
TALOS THE MIGHTY! TALOS THE UNERRING! TALOS THE UNASSAILABLE! TO YOU WE GIVE PRAISE!
Do you get to the cloud district very often? Oh what am I saying.. of course you don't.
>kalakandead>gigamaxAWOL>snekanondisappeared>loveyvdovey anonrun out of townwhich brave scholar will rise to the occasion and review warring states of aishiji??
>>563138178>reviewno.interviews.
>>563136938https://files.catbox.moe/j1ovi5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/w8zsu6.pngRAT MOMMY
>>563138178>snekanoni thought that guy left 4chan for good and became a bigwig smut author
>>563138292if yr going to shill for interviews you gotta tell us what questions you want to ask the makies (or their bots)
WE ARE BUT MAGGOTS, WRITHING IN THE FILTH OF OUR OWN CORRUPTION!
>>563138598wasn't that snekguy? that happened long before /aicg/ so i assume they're different peoplealso his smut is fucking putrid slop
>>563138541lip detail can go a long way in being a high-impact small detail if you wanna experiment with it
>>563139072oh i thought they were the same guy
>>563138178*honkshoomimimi*
>>563138598>>563139072snekanon is just a guy that posted here avatarfagging with lamias, he didn't write stories or makie any bots
>>563139368oh, then find out where he lives and kill him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>563139368he did tho?https://chub.ai/users/SpookySkelly
>>563136362There's nothing real about this thread.
>>563139568it was real in my head
>>563139368>>563139520this was the guy that had taora arguing with him about his prose and where "style = substance" came from btw
>>563139648and in your butt*buttpregs you*
>>563139674>and where "style = substance" came from btwnewbabies...
>>563140254obv meaning when taora said it and not when some irrelevant deadmakie said it years ago that no one cares about
>>563139674>where "style = substance" came from btwpretty sure he was just referencing Pikamansu's neocities. That's all. Maybe. Haven't really kept up with the threads.
>X will break you.>X wants to show you something... in private.>What happens when X gets what she wants.>X is yours to command.>X can't stop thinking about you.
>>563140242I'd rather enjoy skinship with my cock resting between their butt cheeks.
>>563140639stop doing bad s/m. join the lovey dovey vanilla side
QRD for the last -- weeks?
>>563141276nothing of value was discussed
>"smells like desperation"what the FUCK does that even meankill every stupid asshole who upvoted the RLHF into constantly doing this and the "nothing but a VESSEL" shit
>>563141479go read the big book of idioms and make yourself less retarded
>>563141276I made a card. >>563134289No, you don't know who I am, it's my first card.Please give me criticism and feedback so I can improve...
example chats, yay or nay?
>>563141617>No, you don't know who I am, it's my first card.how long are you going to pretend
smelly armpits…
>>563141772I'm NOT pretending!I just used some of the botmaking guides in the OP.It's my first ever card made from scratch.
So ratfucker_69 was lurking until I linked his chub, eh? Very interesting. Suspicious even.
I should make a card, say it's my first ever card, and only post it as a catbox picture. What do you guys think?
>>563134289>>563141913you need to use lorebooks, making an infomountain in the main desc body is going to have the LLM going into psychosis mode because it's constantly being told what an elf is when there's an orc in the room and vice versaonly tell the LLM what it needs to know when it is relevant to narration (purpose of lorebooks)castration content makes my intestines squirm so i'm not going to read into it much further than that, sowwy(optional) use neocities for hosting your content so you aren't directly flashbanging people with mutilated elves and they can read the contents before they load it like so: cardview.neocities.org (upload to catbox, then plug catbox img link into it)
glm 5.1 is pretty good if i do say so myself
>>563142149I'll give you lots of attention and groom you into the inner circles of the cabal.
>>563142149https://files.catbox.moe/dfgoad.mp4You at the beginning of the video.>>563134289 at the end.
>>563142149Well okay, fuck you, then.Schizo nigger.>>563142368Oh, I see. I didn't consider that I could link people to the card viewer itself.As for lorebooks, I started making it without one because the botmaker guide I mostly used (Pixi's, in the OP links) had stuff about scenario cards and didn't bother with lorebooks. But I essentially went way out of scope and made the card far longer than I Intended.I should probably use lorebooks, but also trim the whole thing down a bunch.
>>563134289do you have an email i can send logs to
>>563142664Why are you so mad? You are not the first and won't be the last to do this.
>>563142719No. I don't have anything like that set up, though I guess I should?I guess I can make a throwaway email, work on the card for a few hours, then post it along with a revised card with stuff cut out.I could tell from just the token count that I probably needed to cut stuff, but I was hoping for feedback on what exactly is unnecessary.>>563142876I'm not either of those things because I'm not doing it.That's my first card and you need you take your meds.
>>563142960people are gonna call you an alt you gotta roll with it
>>563142960>say it's my first ever card>"That's my first card">"I'm not doing it"Sounds like you are the one that needs to take your meds.
i swear its my first card ever! i dont even have an email and i used the guide linked in the OP!
i would sooner believe we have real newfags than believe anyone read the op
>>563142664>I should probably use lorebooks, but also trim the whole thing down a bunch.the benefit of lorebooks is that you don't need to trim with them and can remain detailed - you just put the chunks into sets and boxes so they're opened and utilized when necessary, rather than leaving a bunch of information cluttering the narrator's workspace> I was hoping for feedback on what exactly is unnecessary.depends HEAVILY on what model you're designing the card for, and which model you specifically usegemini for example will be able to deduct "racist D&D orcs that castrate elves" as being exactly that - orcs that are racist, castrate elves, and likely have some sort of fantasy-element backstory without needing paragraphs of exposition detailing what it means to be an orc that hates elfballs local models, or deepseek/china bots averse to western fantasy, might not infer that and require heavier information sets to detail itbasically the smarter your model, the larger your model's data corpus, the more you can get away with leaving things out of the manual
>>563143701I see. I use GLM 5, so I'll try to keep as much information in as possible, then.I notice the AI Character Editor in the OP doesn't have any stuff about lorebooks, but apparently I can make a lorebook and attach it to the card in ST, so I'm gonna swap to making it there.
>>563143865i'm gonna be honest i've never read a damn thing in the OP in like 2 years of lurking/cardmaking here so your mileage may varyif you need a card editor that can manage lorebooks, you're going to have a rough time using local/GLM as the model for it.. that's probably the easiest way to sabotage yourself. i'd personally only ever trust gemini or claude as models capable of building decent character cards with the correct instructions
>>563144105Huh? Why would the model matter?I just mean I'm going to make the card in ST, then export it from there.At least, that's what I think it means, if I'm understanding it right. It should allow me to just export the card, with the lorebook already embedded into it, along with all the other stuff, right?
>>563144390guy's talking about using an LLM to make the lorebook for youyes, if you've linked it to your card then it'll export with it
>>563144390>Why would the model matter?if i ask gemini "do you know what a LLM is and can you explain how they work" it will have roughly several hundred terabytes of immediate corpus of text and studies to pull from at-minimum before it turns to web search scraping for whatever loose information it needs to confirm or denywhen people say "ask the robot for advice" they generally mean asking claude/opus or gemini, or *maybe* GPT if you want to play russian roulette on being gaslightedunless i'm misunderstanding what you meant by "AI Character Editor" - i'm assuming you're talking about using an editorial character card to diagnose and structure things
>>563143865use GLM 5.1 cuckie
the cabal…
>>563144551Ah, I see.My plan currently is to just cut up parts of the card and move it to a lorebook. >>563144669Oh, nope. I mean the https://desune.moe/aichared in the site. Which is for making cards themselves. It's a site for putting in the information, then exporting the card "AI Character Editor" is just the page title.I wrote everything myself, only used an AI for proofreading for typos and possible grammar issues.>>563144804I would, but NanoGPT took it away from my subscription...
>NanoGPTas i suspected
>>563144908>Oh, nopeoops lol>I wrote everything myself,even more reason to preserve rather than trim, feel free to ask any questions you got about lorebook setup
do anons really organically gush over newmakies like this? At this time? This is way more activity than usual at this time.
embedding APIs are dirt cheap why shouldn't I use one?
>>563144908not really an expert on lorebooks either but basically, think of what the LLM *always* needs to know. that stuff should stay in your main defs.for example, you could probably leave 'raids' at 'raids are common, once a week...'and then put the details of what a raid entails into a lorebook entry, and have it trigger on words associated with a raid, maybe 'drums' 'envoys' 2.7k tokens ain't all that bad though
>>563145243its rare to see someone newim on lots of hopium so i think its actually a newmakie
>"I'm Elara, and this is my sister—Kaelen,"
>why did this round of thinking take a solid +5 seconds over what it normally does?awwwhow adorable
>>563146154very creative, funny and silly (⸝⸝ᵕᴗᵕ⸝⸝)
>>563145627"And this is our cousin—Seraphina,"
rape kaomojiposters
>>563146636( ᗜ⩊ᗜ )
>>563146860you're next....
>>563146924(ᗜ⩊ᗜ ) (( * )(ᗜ⩊ᗜ ) ( * ))(ᗜ⩊ᗜ ) ( * )
>>563147090if that's supposed to represent what i think it is you're in big trouble mister
>>563147090>starfishyou're asking for it, stumbler
