Swimsuit Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-25-2026-update.121766/post-232903>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>563089968
Holy shit I cant wait till they delete puddle punch
>nerfing the lesser evil that was sheltering us from Haze, Dynamo, Infernus, MirageApologize.
AH TRIED TO BE NICE
can someone post the cunny vindicta
Wesleyyyyy
TATTOO ARTISTS DO LOTS OF THINGS!
Sex with Venator
where is the patch yoshi ..........
>>563139305you are a dumb nigger, respectfully
>first skin collection will be swimsuitsDeadlock is saved
>>563139546Ivy swimsuit?
>>563139669No, Dynamo swimsuit
>>563139460Victorsisters... I have become a brooltard since that's the only mode I don't want to kill myself when playing him...
>>563139669No, Venator swimsuit
>>563139669Put EVERYBODY in swimsuits
>>563139546>they're all for male heroes
>>563139764He seems like the type with a very hairy chest
>>563139739trust the plan the pain will be worth it
>>563139546>>563139764>>563139805We NEED a skin of Venator in only a speedo
I'm hardstuck eternus 2. How do I improve?
Been spectating games with Silver for the last few hours.No, not so I can pick up some tricks and learn anything. Just so I can hear her voice for inspiration while I work.Got about 1.4k words done today, almost finished the actual werewolf sex part of this werewolf sex story
>>563139831Correct
>>563140032pay for deathy coaching
>>563140032First, you quit playing Silver...
>>563140032read and re-read deathy's tier list
>>563140032seduce an eternus 6 player and get him to carry you
>>563139451>>563139995>>563140053Calm down Mina!
they need to rework the way top daily/ recommended builds work or something so new players stop getting tricked into playing shitty ass builds
>>563140032First step, you kill yourself for being a disgusting furnigger tourist. Then, you go to hell.>>563140048You too, disgusting troon.
>>563140167>For the last time, lass, it's "forgive me father, I have sinned" not "sorry daddy, I've been a bad girl"
>>563140261Most of the top builds are botted anyway, it's how the tracklock guys get top build on every single character and how one person can get multiple builds in the top daily
>>563140286>disgusting furniggerunderstandable>touristkill yourself retard
>>563140286Maybe later as a treat for you
>>563140345tranny mad
>>563140167NO! MANHATTAN IS MY BREEDING GROUND!
Too many ugly white trannies in my game.
>>563140556just ban mina, silver, celeste, paige, or rem and you'll be rid of some of them
>>563140556You're not there to fuck them
When are we getting another ocean themed character??? I wanna fucking SLORK MY SHIT...
My wife Celeste! has a bigger horsecock than you!
>>563140691>When are we getting another ocean themed character??? Hopefully it's a fishman that worships Cthulhu and is Viscous's rival
Goyllenial humor is just sex and being indecent
>>563140691We need the Adversary
>>563140341yeah just look at miku or any of the characters with metro builds, its fucked
m1 characters are way too strong right now. looking forward to the next patch which will buff m1 characters even further
>>563140645They sure love to fuck the game over by playing like shit.
NEW YORK IS MINE!
Is spirit tank abrams viable or just a meme, if so what do I build
>>563141285525375. it is the best way to play him, maybe only. I never see orange abrams anymore. 525375
Why can you hold celeste ball and apollo ult until the end of time but not Holliday lasso?
some people are really not meant to play m1 carry ever. There's this dude I know who always goes 1/10+ on wraith every single time whenever he decides to play her.
>>563141562power creep, next question.
>>563141285It's more viable than a melee build that's for sure (because his gun got nerfed and you need lots of orange for melee scaling)>healing tempo>escalating exposure>torment pulse>arcane surge>duration on aura>cooldown on aura>expansion on aura>witchmail if spirit heavy enemy comp>all resist items that help against enemy compVictor is dead, Abrams is the new hold W to win hero
New York is my breeding ground!
>>563141285siphon/hybrid tank is viable
I play supportWhich is to say I have lost nine straight games I can keep my laner from feeding too hard in mid, but even as ivy with rescue beam there's only so many of these retards I can yank away from a hot stove over the course of a gameMy side lane mirage just went 1-10 and his abrams was right behind him at 1-9Please I don't want to carry
>>563141656Does Abrams have a cleanse ability with charges too?
How about a mop item that deletes aoes
Old deadlock was more fun than new deadlock.
remove EE what a shitnigger dishonest item
>>563138591I'd like to hear the Drifter Venator conversations. I'd also like them to add some more interactions where someone either fires back threats at him, or is otherwise just not afraid of him, either due to confidence or sheer ignorance. Like I wanna see Viscous completely unaware that he's suppose to be scary and how Drifter would react to his obliviousness
Valve are incapable of writing good dialogue anymore that's why any of the interesting interactions like viscous x rem or lash x bebop haven't been added
>>563141616Playing with friends is an exercise in patience, mine aren't even brand new they all have around 100-200 hours played but still play like brand new players, feed, rage, and don't know what a single item is because they all prefer picking a top daily build and clicking autoqueue and autobuy
>>563139435>giant permanent pedo mark on your arm jesus man
>>563141938>autoqueue and autobuyI cant imagine people actually doing this
>>563142024>manThat's clearly a foid's arm...
>>563140095your videos would be a lot more watchable if you took your facecam out big dawg you have radioface for sure. i would also recommend giving up now cause you are way too much of a sperg to keep this scam going
>>563141893https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=lash_ping_bebop_check_items.mp3I genuinely cannot wait for the Lash Bebop convos because they already have so much disdain for each other even when they're on the same team
Dropped from Ascendant 5 to 1 today. Time to just goon post and take a break until next patch and abuse whoever is OP to climb again.
I feel like silver falls off hard once you hit the 30-40k soul mark. don't do enough damage, not enough hp, movement isn't enough to catch many things anymore, and teamfights become too coordinated for the random wolf form
Mina players are so irredeemably garbage I just mentally check out every time ones on my team
>>563142336>coomers>foids>tranniesthis is what happens when your playerbase is primarily composed of these people
>>563142131in what universe
>>563139435It would be very funny if Valve changed Rem's appearance and made this tattoo inaccurate
Do you think they bother to read feedback anymore
>Hey Bebop; pro tip: stop sucking.The Lash would never tell someone to stop working the knobhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=lash_kill_bebop_02.mp3
>>563142674Yoshi has been reading feedback for the past week
>>563142282ive gooned a lot to mercy and widwomaker but for some reason lady giest doesn't turn me on. i think it's because of the weird way she walks and holds her arm + she looks old when damaged
>The Lash has wrestled one of Mo's species beforeThis had BETTER feature in his visual novel/comic/meet the team video
>>563142320she seems like a weird case where none of the t4 gun items are that great for her, or purple for that matter
>>563143063Lash is shocked at Mos size so the one he wrestled must've been a lot smaller
>>563142336For me it's Doorman. I see one on my team and I know it's over.
>>563143389>Get a doorman on my team>He doesn't go meme door build>maxes his cart first>actually makes an impact around the map
Is Mina considered a carry?
>>563143724She's an assassin with carry characteristics
>>563143724Good art, too bad it was wasted on Mina
Is there a worse feeling than seeing a holliday/rem on your team
Slowing Bullets + Cold Front is now my favorite item combo. It's very cheap for the value it provides too.
>>563143893seeing me
>mina on my team walks into the apollohuh? again???
>>563143893Seeing your reflection
>>563143893Seeing Victor
what does this mean?
>>563142131please do not refer to yourself as a foid lmao
>>563143985Mostly fine but I'd offer you one massive correction
>>563143985Paradox has a bakery
>>563144171SHE HIT THE FLOOR(she hit the floor)
>>563136720Just adding to this with the Kill/Death replay, lol
>>563139435tattoo people are so retarded
>>563143985Hate to break it to ya pal, but these cheeks are the talk of half the lock ups in jersey
>>563144205(me)forgot image but her coat gets pushed up so mich
can i become a content creator like crayon or eido even though i call people in ingame voice/text faggots niggers retards trannies etc
>>563139305why is it whenever i try to play victor, he folds like a fucking wet blanket even when i'm ahead, but when i'm facing a victor he's death (re)incarnate that won't ever go down
>>563144727Yeah but you'll have to deal with jews and their golems actively working against you
>>563144727Have you ever heard the expression... lame as a nigger's baby?
>>563144727You don't have the requisite charm or charmisma, so I highly doubt it
>>563143985does this mean ettrick was the top?
Haze doesn't seem that strong in the laning phase
>>563145628She isn't but it doesn't matter because her ult is so good in the mid game and end game.
Drifter's ult should also mute your game and voice comms, only playing schizo mumble when you're under its effect. I can still triangulate where everyone is because I invested in really good IEMs so it's useless to me. I guess third worlders living in mudhuts would be at a disadvantage.
So did they rework doorman to be super low skill? wtf
>>563145771pressing 4 on someone an then pressing cart on a completely immobile target is extremely hard actually
this was certainly a game
>>563146125>paige
>>563145709So what is she supposed to do when laning
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1shbwia/thanks_rem_now_we_both_dont_get_the_sinner/HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA cant wait til open beta and everyone finds out how fucking entitled and retarded support players are
>>563146518
The future of melee builds is melee scaling abilities where the "melee characters" cosplay as bootleg spiritfags spamming abilities. The punishment for hitting a parry>stunning the attacker for 2.75 seconds (cannot be reduced by debuff resistance), preventing incoming melee damage, and making the attacker susceptible to increased damage in return (+25% to all damage sources, not just the individual who parried).Is a fucking death sentence, even if you bait the parry they'll just jump over your second and 3rd melees assuming they haven't bought rebuilt in which case you're fucked because you'll take all the damage back on top of the stun and damage increase, melee abilities guaranteeing a better melee that is unparryable with extra effects is just inherently better, no point in trying to heavy melee the old way when it's a death sentence against anyone who is not retarded
>>563146765melee is just autoaim slop like graves. it should be weak
>>563145004im pretty awesome idk>>563144994no>>563144935ok cool i play israeli characters (ult haze) so itll be fine
>>563147013
>>563147013>it should be weakAdding something to the game and making it weak on purpose is bad game design
How is lash supposed to deal against counterspell?
>>563147248By having a team
>>563147248Bait it out by waiting for the full duration.>No i mean ground slamlol you're an ult bot by the time people start buying counterspell anyways.
>>563147204having situational moves is good game design retard-kun. melee is very strong in certain situations
>>563147204yes? this game has really bad game design currently>urn>non symmetric jungle>ult bot gameplay>rem>graves>celeste having a free passive>little to no comeback potential (if enemy isn't retarded they pick up advantage urn and just store it in their base so you can't get it)>silence wave/toxic bullets scale with spirit so EVERYONE should buy them
>>563139869sam salazar looking mofo
Counterspell shouldn't be able to shutdown my entire character's gameplan.Fuck this shit.
>>563146765>light melee unpredictably>they parry whiff>mfw
is gun abraham viable? I can't melee for shit
>>563147658gun abs has always been better than melee abs.but spirit abrams is much better
>>563147248maybe you can hit their counterspell with something cheap and long range while you're channeling, like a slowing hex? it's not a favorable situation for lash. baiting it is probably the best option outside of just ignoring whoever buys it, and if everyone on their team is forced to buy it then lul. not even being able to curse counterspell might need to get changed
Enemy tower:>always readies a stomp when I get pulledMy tower:>never attacks the enemy while they rape me under its gaze>>563147714is it possible to learn this power
I love Mirage's teleport but I'm fucked on how to build him besides ricochetWhat if ricochet is your first itemIs that based
Third loss but I had fun.Anyone got recommendations for youtube videos to watch to fall asleep to?
>>563147804Build around his Scrab.
>>563147830https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTYozGA8HVs
>>563147804you want spirit and cdr for his mark
>metro is friends with eskaywhite boy zesty
>>563147013>it should be weak>>563147419>melee is very strong in certain situationsThe only retard is you contradiction-kun>>563147456They really need to nerf toxic bullets, but why is silence wave OP? I've never built it
>>563147248try to coordinate with your teammates to get them to pop counterspell first
>>563147863SoSurgeBoundlessFucking QuicksilverRapid recharge(?)
I keep consistently getting KDAs like 1/0/20 and end game damages of like 20k, even if I play a carryIs there a hero that can break me free of this or am I doomed to always be a support even if I'm not building one
>>563147905dude jimbob is friends with chungolo are you fucking serious? this changes everything
when does LENNOX join the fray?
>>563147905who and who
>>563147927something can be weak overall, but strong in certain situations. this is very common in video gaming. turn the brain on please
>>563147803>is it possible to learn this powerNot from a m1gger...If you're a build fag yourself then the core piece of the puzzle is that witchmail letting you basically have a 100% uptime on his 1. Drain life is the core ability to focus on.If you're lazy just copy together's build 525375
>>563147932>try to coordinate with your teammates
>>563148206hitler on 5 computers..... im on one.....
>>563148170does it allow me to bypass the compressor
>>563147927because silence is extremely strong at all stages of the game and it has good damage. try buying it and you will find lots of enemies can't do anything for 4 seconds and die
>>563147950I mean do I imbue items on scarab, rather than his mark?
>>563148337just do the oses7 LR build lil gup
>>563147927>why is silence wave OPbodies anyone who casts a lot of spells for 3200 and forces them to buy debuff remover also for 3200. then late game you can upgrade it to a curse or a focus lens
What are your hot-takes /dlg/?Mine is that every carry deserves the victor treatment. Its insane that a side-lane carry can just autowin games even if the enemy team successfully ganks and gets kills that leads to a early game lead. The comeback mechanics are so strong so it only takes one kill for the carry who's afk farmed the entire game to instantly become the most fed in the lobby of one kill.
>>563148271wdym by compressor? can you skip compress cooldown?Maybe but the name of the game is spamming siphon life so you'll want to pick up CDR eventually. You could maybe get away with witchmail only if they're that spirit heavy?
>>563148517you know there's a game for people who don't want to efficiently farm souls and just fight based on pure skill it's called marvel rivals/overwatch
>>563148635nah sorry was just making a shitty Star Wars 7 ref. I'll give the build a go, hope I can survive the early game torture
>>563148687Ahhh I get what you're referring to.In my defense I completely memory holed that pos trilogy.
If you're not buying silence wave on spirit heroes this patch you're honestly kind of trolling, its going to get nerfed real soon
>>563148517all the content creators are cheating and buying cheats off an incredibly small dick individual that i know irl. that deathy guy is botting his stream and his youtube, running a coaching scam while selling cheats to people. he's also in these threads shilling constantly. they are manipulating the ranked ladder atm and it's really easy to spot their accounts. there's also a very common multibox cheat that ive seen where people are blatantly switching between characters like fuckin lego star wars. i would be suspect of any "pro" level player who comes to this game from overwatch or tf2. shoutouts to mangachu
Can someone explain to me why I have much easier time in eternus/assendant lobbies than when it puts me on phantom/oracle?
>>563149179Oracle is super vast and has smurfs
>>563149179>eternus = the booster realm>phantom = cheater hellit's really easy for cheaters to get phantom and once they get eternus they just sell their acc or switch to a new smurf
>>563144620bro i just gooned...
>>563138821THEY DO LOTS OF THINGS
>>563148424>then late game you can upgrade it to a curse or a focus lensIs the damage debuff negligible on someone like haze or venator? And wouldn't focus lens be worse since it's not AOE? Or is it like character dependent
>>563149301I hope they perma ban every smurf, this shit kills matchmaking since there's always some low test faggot who enjoys beating people who are on their first or second game
>>563149602on haze the damage debuff is a nothing burger since she scales way better off fire rate than weapon damage. on venator its OK if you really really need it.
>>563149602silence wave has travel time and can miss a lot of the time in my experience, and doesn't usually hit multiple people. having a lock on silence can be really useful. also i think the game has a hard time calculating hitboxes for aoe moves sometimes (or it's packet manip cheats) because sometimes i will blast someone in the face with it and it doesn't hit, but focus lens and curse never miss
>>563149301>phantom = cheater hellThis seems to be true, people have wildly oscillating aim skills in phantom compared to the consistency of eternus lobbies.
>>563146245Shoot people from a million miles away so they run behind cover to avoid fixation stacking and land the dagger melee combo if they come up close, autowin lane if they ever walk forward once she has her ult.
>>563139305Victor meta was more miserable>Trying to sneak Infernus inHe's dishonest but hardly comparable to the rest
>>563149635it's a lot worse than you think. they are deranking people and trying to seperate the streamers from the actual playerbase so they can sell them cheats and get them to promote them. they're paranoid as fuck and they they think they have to do this because if actually good players get to eternus they're going to notice the cheating immediately and start calling people out on their mains
>witchmail spellbreakers aren't enough to stop a fed kelvin and shivnice game
>>563149698>on haze the damage debuff is a nothing burger since she scales way better off fire rate than weapon damage.... that has nothing to do with focus lens damage boost
>>563149635>ban smurf>they are used to being banned because they're a cunt, scramble their HWID and jump on a new accountonly thing they can do is what they have with their other games, force you to play 50 standard games before unlocking the ranked mode, then asking for a unique cell phone number and 5 bucks
>>563149804who are those "they"
>>563149889what this actually does is turn smurfing into a business and increases the value of accounts
>>563149845you're antiheal sis?
i am once again begging yoshi to do a full rework of vindicta
>>563149935here's a couple of people i know personallyhttps://steamcommunity.com/id/Birdthuluhttps://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044575581 (one of mangachu's 10 accounts)https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199055658057also that deathy guy and anyone who plays with him should be ultra sus. ive been in the comp scene for a lot of games for a long time and i know a lot of these guys irl, my friend who cheats gave me a lot of details, also the bird guy was lying to me for years while cheating on me lmaoo
>>563149845Kelvin is arguably top 3 hero right now sorry anon.Some games are just lost from the beginning if they are meta abusing.
>>563150015Yes flying needs to be removed from vindicta and GT
>Let's just ruin our only honest M1's (aside from maybe Vyper) identity by converting her from a 1v1 duelist / ganker back into an ultbot Wtf is Valve doing
>>563149845Kelvin is broken right now, shiv is also broken but he has *some* counter play
>>563150094you sound schizophrenic and personally slighted, reeks of a discord drama >while cheating on me lmaoo
>>563150164people cried that the ult was an accessory for 5 months so they buffed it back to what it used to be
i like the way vindicta runs around very cute :3
>Tab into any E6's players stream>80% of the time they're on an alt / smurf>Queue into a stack >Check their profiles after the game>80% of the time it's a high ranked player weighted down by a bunch of shitlows, usually one of the shitlows is also on a fresh account>Encounter a smurf / sus player>Check their profile after>99% of the time they have a string of level 1 accounts friendedAnyone else encounter this shit
>>563150164Every game is decided by who gets the Haze now (unless she's weighed down by a Victor or one of the other throw picks) it's retarded.
>>563150261>schizophrenicmaybe>personally slightedabsolutely>reeks of a discord dramawelcome to /vg/ i have a lot of personal experience with these people and one of their friends that they cheat with gave me a ton of details
>>563150096>flying is the problem>not that she scales poorly and is easily hatecrimed because flight has such poor mobility>GT gets 4 stam while vin has 2 baseliteral mouthbreather takeshe needs a rework to properly make her a usable hero and not a stake bot
>>563150381The haze can also just be retarded and not even but ricoshit.
>>563150289They should have just kept it hybrid damage like that one patch if they want it to be viable, and remove item usage while ulting. Haze has mostly been balanced well her only issue is just other M1s being egregious cancer making her irrelevant for most of the game's lifespan
I fucking love the urn
>>563150397cheating on you implies you found a mate
>https://statlocker.gg/profile/1260631191/matchesboosted retard egirl duo-queueing with a perma-smurfing haze
>>563150502funny you should bring that up. his girlfriend was actually in my dms inviting me to hang out with her and showing me porn while lying to him. didn't smash cause the whole situation was insane
>>563150625your life is fascinating and all too real
>>563150571Insane how shameless they are
>>563150664if you go outside and play video games competitively irl you will meet some insane people. my story with this girl isn't even the craziest drama she created in that year
>>563150480>Urn run on a dishonest broken heroShan't be watching your webm ma'am.
>>563145628the moment she puts a point into fixation, she gets multiple items worth of value from one skill alone. people severely underestimate just how ridiculous that fucking thing is, especially if you manage to nab a few early Sinners to maybe get firerate + maybe some free spirit for bigger mag size.
>>563150794Still inferior poke considering it requires buildup unless you're just eating her M1 like a retard
>>563150897There are four heroes in a lane and her lane partner and sometimes yours will put you in a position where she can click on you for a bit
Mo is the troubadour
>>563150941Yes if you burgerbox like a retard, don't play cover, etc it does damage but her potential for trading is objectively poor in laning phase compared to the majority of the cast
>>563150730I've run into that duo like 6 times already its retarded
>>563151057Yesterday when I was playing I queued into a smurf 4 stack, got stomped, then got them on my team the next game and got carried, doesn't make for a fun experience on either end
>>563143985Mina needs to be 2 tiers lowerGeist needs her own tier
>if you randomise hero on brool you get two rerollskweel
>>563147248I've seen some Lashes work around it by just hanging in there for longer and then just reapplying the lockon
>4.8k gun spike on Lash is actually better than getting spike firstAt last, I finally realize
>still no Silver buff patch
>Graves>Walk at people and hold M1 to statcheck>Victor >Walk at people to statcheckYeah these heroes should never be good and need reworks
>>563151459muscular silver...
>>563151617This is a MOBA, not a twitch shooter.
>>563151669Just because it's a moba doesn't mean it shouldn't require skillful input
>>563149845>he bought spellbreaker instead of just going debuff removeryour own fault.
>the "heros should intentionally be bad" retard is at it againYeah this anon should never be smart and needs a lobotomy
>>563151617at least they'll be good in pve :)
>>563151669>This is a MOBA>not a [Buzzword] shooterWhen will you stupid retards learn that it's both a hero shooter AND moba?
what if shiv execute just fucking killed everyone in it's path under the threshold as base instead of stopping on execute
>Mo solo kill potential completely gutted>bebop gun shat on, bombs shat on too, has a lot of sustain just to do nothing now>ivy lost her knock up so her fun combo is now fucked up>splatter build nerfed to the groundeverything I liked about this game gets removed man, kinda hope it flops now
>>563151789LESS REWORKS MORE 0.00000037 BULLET GROWTH BUFFS
>>563151834mo solo kill requires less skill than haze
>>563151834Why should a hypermobile tank with CC have solo kill potential
>>563151957Because it was countered by like 7 different items so it was only viable as a retard punisher which is what I enjoyed.
>>563151459I'm glad she's not getting buffed, otherwise the meta slaves might flock to her.She should stay as she is for awhile. If people start wising up and climbing ropes when she ults then they can buff her a little but I don't want a cycle where they buff a hero, and then nerf it into oblivion so its worse than when it started COUGH COUGH victor COUGH COUGH
>>563151875I don't care about skill expression I care about fun, I'm not here to flaunt e-cred like someone without a social life.
basildl is playing Celeste rn complaining that Bepop is op because he wasnt able to kill a max hp full green Bepop in ten seconds. Celeste players should be thrown into Cambodian killing pits
>>563152075getting killed with 0 counterplay is not fun
>Giest>Walk at people and press 2 and 4 to awesome >dynamo>Walk at people and press 4 and 1 to awesome >seven>walk at people and press 1 and 2 to awesome Yeah these heroes should never be good and need reworks
>>563152075Just for fun bros fail to concern themselves with the lack of fun the other party is having>Broooo Mo and Krill should have a fucking nuke on his back that can one shot people it'd be so fun bro you're just a tryhard I'm here for fun man
>>563152107You're not wrong Geist's issues are actually stats though don't know why her drain is so good with minimal spirit investment, her HP scaling is absurd, and her gun is one of the best guns in the game all at the same time
>>563152158>>563152103>mention that a variety of items can be built to counter it (reactive barrier early game, spirit resilience or debuff remover made it impossible to 100-0 anyone, silence, counterspell, or curse)>"hurr it sucks when you can't counter it"Of course it's always retards that get the fun sucked out of a game.
>>563151997Silver was slightly above average in popularity and at 50% winrate before the march 6th patched nerfed her, iirc she was the least popular of the new 6 heroes in terms of pickrateShe was completely fine back then but they nerfed her and keep nerfing her because of tournament trannies
>stupidly decide to play a deadlock match today>enemy has three m1 carries including haze>closest we have is a bebop that went gun>lose there's no point playing this garbage game not only is matchmaking a coinflip it's also draft based lmao fucking terrible
Gunshit is going to kill this game.
>>563152297>Anon isn't aware of soft vs hard counters>Anon isn't aware of balancing philosophy on individual heros kitsAre you capable of explaining why a hero with high mobility, a high health pool, and hard CC should also have solo kill potential? Can you explain why your ideal version of Mo would need you to buy some form of lockdown, antiheal, AND spirit resist for just one hero?>BROO PLEASE LET ME BROKEN GIGAHITLER IT'LL BE FUN FOR ME JUST SPEND 10K SOULS IN JUST MY HERO IT'S FINE
>>563150897well she's not there to poke you for straight up damage, she's there to force you to fuck off and punishes you hard for not fucking off. arguably one of the bigger punishes in the game because if you give her an opportunity she's just gonna sleep and heavy melee you for free.
>>563152236Geist is legit S tier but people playing retarded spirit builds for bomb and drain keep her wr low, her 2 scales so hard with barely any spirit investment, you should just build gun and be a hyper carry that can also sustain endlessly. It also helps that people will ALWAYS go retarded and walk into her when she is low health with swap available. The amount of times ive been about to kill a Geist and some retard walks up to her to melee her FUCK THESE NIGGERS. Anyways i love playing Geist and hope people continue being spirit build retards so her WR stays at 50 and she doesnt get nerfed.
>>563152560i agree with this anon early game haze is kinda slept on. imo her biggest problem is that she's too squishy and if you build tank your damage suffers way too much
Spiritshit is going to kill this game.
>>563151796people don't like calling it a hero shooter cause hero shooters are a detraction from mobas. it feels better to call it a moba shooter
Shit is going to shit this shit
>>563152827FOR DA DJIN
>>563152297>bro if you buy these 10k worth of items back then mo couldnt 100-0 you, it was only like 100-10 so it was fair!bravo
>>563152401I have zero fun playing gun (why would I play this game if I wanted to play a shooter????) and it feels like gun is the only good type of hero the rest are just cucks watching
>>563152827indian hero when
>>563152236>You're not wrongI know, because the argument is fucking stupid when half the cast has 1 of 2 things, point and click abilities that are unmissable, or large as fuck hit boxes where they hit everything without even trying
3 games in a row of a mid walker camping doorman that carts you underneath the map. awesome
>>563153049And that's a bad thing
>>563152861>Mirage is clearly an arab, with djinns being desert folklore>HEUHEUEHUHEUE HES CLEARLY DRAVIDIAN SAAARS
>>563153360Just disregard anything their kind saysTheyre usually either lying or working up some trust to lie to you later
>>563153062theres a bug rn where doorfag can cart you into the Rem tunnels, and theres no way to get out if you arent Rem Calico Mirage or MoKrill, or have a Dynamo on your team to pull you out with the tp. Unstick does nothing since it sees you are on normal terrain, so the only way to get out is to kill yourself through the console.
>>563152646I play Bomber Harris Geist because it's fun
>>563153062Reality is a mere suggestion to those with true power
>>563153639>the only way to get out is to kill yourself through the consoleYou can do that?
>>563152790>people don't like calling it a hero shooterIf the shoe fits, and it doesAnd hero shooters are not "a detraction from mobas", they just have some loosely shared mechanics
I've felt terrible at the game since the last batch of heroes finished releasing. OCE Oracle 4, 434 hours 334 of which since last October. I play street brawl and it's too out of my own personal player control to have fun (just finished a match against Dyna/Lash with refresher each and I couldnt even get a counterspell) then when I play standard I feel out of sync from what the game/rank expects from me. I've played so far as a flex and I wouldn't say I have a main currently which is a factor to my frustration I believe. The past 3 weeks or so I just don't feel like I have any control over my matches which is confusing and frustrating. Not sure what I can even actively do to remedy how I'm feeling.
If your Deadlock is such a miserable experience why don't you just stop playing?
>>563153951the highs in mobas are rarely reached elsewhere
>>563153951Maybe people care about the game's future? This take always makes people sound like FoTm retards
>>563154030You will never be an e-athlete, though. You will never play at the International.You will never make money playing a videogame.
>it's another lash stands atop the crane and slams down for 60% of your health early game lanes episode
> over 5 min queue to find a game right nowThis patch killed the game
>they do lot of things>actually only do 3 thingsFuck you Rem
>>563154456I said this before and I'll say it again. I'm ready to wait in queue for hours if it means I'll have a fair match where all players are at equal skill level.The matchmaking will only get worse if they prioritize short queue times.That being said, yes the march patches were abysmal.
>>563152646What do good players build on her? Because I've literally only ever seen people build spirit on her.
>>563154527There's no shuffleboard on the map for them to demonstrate that particular skill
I want to learn Feeticta, but I know I'm going to get raped because she's such an F tier hero.
>>563153875>a detraction from mobasmost people feel this way and most people don't want this game to be associated with overwatch in any way because it's about 300x more fun
>>563154778I just play spirit, she is more fun that way
>>563154272It's really boring to lane against lash.
>>5631545275 actually >1-boxes>2-sinners >3-heroes >4-minnons>5-shoppingBut you're right to disregard boxes because yoshi is a retard and puts them on a 3~4 second CD even tho the boxes take a fucking second, Worse then that they only take the boxes you targeted instead of taking every box in that room/area
>>563153951I play one game every few days then come here to bitch cause it's always terrible. Eventually I'll just stop playing entirely. This game has not improved on the fun factory in 2 years, this shit is dead on arrival.
>>563154778>an F tier hero.Come on you bussy she's not that bad, get real, her root is pretty good, her snipe is a good execute and her flying gives her a vantage point to help her kill people running away, only reason she gets such a bad rep is that she's one of the easiest heroes to counter besides seven with the anvil, but if you're good you can still win with her
>>563154570Berserker, Spellslinger, recharging rush instead of rapid recharge, BRS, kdash, extra regen/healing booster, mystic/radiant regen, mystic burst in lane for extra bomb damage to clear waves/camps faster, healbane is always good, spirit resilience is good. Stuff like crippling headshot, spellbreaker, toxic bullets, unstoppable, cheat death, leech, frenzy, helaing tempo, juggernaught are situationally good
>>563155298Do you have a build number for in-game perchance? I kinda wanna give this a try when I play later this evening.
>>563154272The Lash... does it again.
>>563154570Spirit Geist is legit throwing the game and should be bannedit might be actually the worst build in the game>>563155391just look at the sanya buildhttps://statlocker.gg/builds/build-lab/509801
>>563155071It's a good thing you don't lane against him that much. At a certain point, he's just permanently roaming.
>>563152646>Anyways i love playing Geist and hope people continue being spirit build retards so her WR stays at 50 and she doesnt get nerfed.Mina's WR never went above 50% and she got hit with nerfs repeatedlywe are just lucky someone on the team is a hag enjoyer and refuses to nerf her
>>563154778theres two youtubers that play her a lot, one is called the car, hes made some videos describing his decision making while playing her in eternus, the other is sillycatwhodat, he only posts gameplay from his streams but you can get a general idea of how to play her to some success from it. He's also recently made a Vindicta counters video were he explains the counters to her, and how to play around them. His main issue imo id that he never switches up his core build even if he is getting fucked in the ass and cant get stacks. Anyways, there three general ways to build Vindicta, they all start with improved spirit and rapid recharge rushed to get them by the time you unlock snipe so you can build stacks during lane when kills are easy. Then the builds split into gun, snipe damage, support. Gun build doesnt build anything extra for the snipe and instead starts stacking yellow items to take advantage of her extra damage from stacks, if you get a lot of stacks glass cannon can get you to like 500% weapon damage by the end of the game. Snipe build goes boundless spirit, and stuff like quicksilver reload and SoP on the ult for the extra damage to continue fucking people up in the mid game and build huge stacks, late game you slot in a bunch of yellow items. Support build is just lightning scroll spam through the ult, its kinda troll but can work if your team has other carries
what's with all these smurfs in phantom bro
>>563146518apollo is a support?
>>563154158What does that have to do with people wanting to see the game succeed? You seem mentally ill
>>563155092and get bridge buffs
>>563155740i think Mina got nerfed for the same reason Victor got nerfed, they were low MMR stomp machines. They still stomp low MMR since the issue was always that people dont counter build there, but at least Mina is still viable at all MMRs, fucking Victor is sitting at 50% WR at seeker and 43% at eternus, genuinely throwing the game if you play him.
