Previous: >>563009261This is a thread for MICA/Sunborn games. Including Girls' Frontline 1 and 2, Neural Cloud and Reverse Collapse: Code Name Bakery.Bind your account to a Sunborn ID instead of logging in from Facebook/Google.>STORY SUMMARYhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1IalPz5JPc8-we4MiOsYhrMrOINifxW9d9Q6mTAqGoq8>TRANSLATED STORY & LORE MATERIALhttps://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/14bAuWaGbagJwucmlit3EkXFqMRV9NHZO>GUIDESGF1 Resources: https://rentry.org/o9ibbk2kGF2 Resources: https://rentry.co/5x2kxhs4PNC Resources: https://rentry.org/dd5q8b25RC: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1127700/Reverse_Collapse_Code_Name_Bakery/>NEWS/EVENTS (GF1 EN)[Current] Mar. 31 - Apr. 13 | Rerun Event: Cartesian Theater>NEWS/EVENTS (GF2 EN)[Current] Apr. 2 - Apr. 22 | Targeted Procurement: Lainie[Current] Apr. 2 - Apr. 22 | Character Event: Breaking Butterfly>NEWS/EVENTS (PNC EN)[Current] Mar. 25 2025 - ? | Nothing>Old Events & OP Templatehttps://rentry.org/gfgroot>DO NOT REDEEMURAB1GD0RC (D) (H)Reminder to bully seaniggers, discord trannies, bugmen, /v/ermins, dramaniggers, tripniggers, tourists, yuritroons, retards & degenerates, and to lurk 2 months before posting
Can't wait for Junya
fuck you danchode
Lunasia love
M4M4M4M4
>>563223945t. lunasia
They won.
>>563224121I don't consent
sip sip sipI have only ever seen like 7 of these
What's the tactical purpose of a wedding dress?Tacticoom and Tactical outfits seem better.
>>563223406
>>563224875>human skk rightsI have em
>>563224875>gf1 raped better best gf2
>>563224029
>>563224875>human skk rights yeah>enough doll rapeWordcloud my only ally in these dark times
Clumsy Ameli in the new thread
>>563224875>Need sex game
>>563225214Helena would protect youI dunno about melanie though...
>>563224875>Springfield used rape>GF1 raped better>already need raped>stop years rapeThe rape will continue
>>563224875>human skk rightsdo the dolls know? do they care?
>>563225214it says helen needs enough doll rapeyou're raped yet again, buddy
>>563226203Usually I don't think Leva is that hot, but this outfit.... ooo...
>>563226203outfit reminds me of colai miss cola
>>563227337SOPPIEEEEEEEEEEE
>>563224875>ro maid cute
>>563227337
did that one guy an hero yet?
>>563228591Pet the fucking dog.
>>563224983>>563225214>>563225518>He thinks he has human rightsOh no no no...
>>563228591>>563229067
>>563225474>Springfield used rape!>It's super effective!>Shikikan has no more sperm left! >Shikikan blacked out!
When will they be in 2?
>>563230609never
>>563230609I dont really see a way for them to reappear, maybe only as sprites in some side mode
>>563230886I could see them being HOC teams.
>>563230609>>563230886They'll return in GF2 as HOCs
>>563233136>>563233229Best you'll get is a lil square portrait in artifact recovery season 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxGSmnA1r00
Are you a manwhore with multiple covenants or did you form a covenant with that one special doll?
>>563234517Is this free with Gnosis? It's so long wtf
>>563234639it's free
>>563234565nyo, I'm a hodler
>>563234565
>>563234825hail hodler
Yay, they made it! Now I can go to sleep.
>>563235164sleep tight trololo
>>563234574Dande hijacking the Niter body doko?
>>563234923Elmo bicycle
>>563234517@dande slop this up with nemesis and skk
I am a faithful husband and only oathed 8 dorks
>>563234923this is why you deserve all that rape
>>563235706I hate what Netflix did to Castlevania
Is cereal good for you?
>>563236845noit's puritan propaganda
>>563235845No one deserves rape, shut the fuck up.
>>563236845love armpitshate food mixed with fetishes
>>563237721>t. the raped
Thought this was Lunasia with her hands clasped in the middle of this dudes shirt at first. /gfg/ would never do anything like that though.
>>563239885Do it. You know what.
>>563239885Meds...
>>563239885those are men
>>563239885Her influence is growing on your mind. There's no stopping it now.
>>563239885Also every crazy bitch in anime have the same phenotype.
>>563242912It's almost like the japanese have a clearly defined beauty standard.
>>563239885That's KnY thoughHaving long black hair doesn't make you Lunasia... right?
>>563243494>check my hair>baldPhew...I'm safe.
>>563239230Go fuck yourself, loser.
>>563243494needs the stripe
>>563244139Needs tanning correction
>>563244139Lewdis a cute
>>563244307
>>563243494>>563243628>check my hair>long>blackWell shit.
>>563245910I don't think what you think my post meant means what you think it does.
>>563246097Put on the stripe.
is it time to do the event?
>>563224896Ahem cough coughWHITE GIRLS FUCK DOGS-
>>563239885Holy kek
Does anything new ever get added to the wishing well? Once you have v6 Peritya there doesn't appear to be any reason to spend your coins.
>>563251092nyo
The game ended and they're still adding dollshttps://x.com/girlsfrontline/status/2042551755943063968?s=46&t=088ymdEC0KOteP65RGpHRg
PNC... bwos...
>>563251092purple weapons and peritya dupes give doritos
>>563252012PN-wha? zzzzzz
>hmmmmm why is rape going into the word bubble?BECAUSE YOU ARE SAYING IT SO MUCH STOP IT
I can't wait until we get kot
>>563253491Well if I wasn't being raped all the time I wouldn't need to say it.
>>563253491you can't silence RAPE victims anon
Today I will do it. I will look Groza straight into her eyes, and say to her "don't rape me".
Why is this gaysmoke season buffing corrosion? Did they leak that Basti event is next?
>>563230609Yes, atleast that's implied in the latest of cn event
Sop's nipple bumps
>>563254495gato
>>563258360Dolls do not have nipples
>>563256825Klukai is rerunning, anon.
>>563256825Kluk is getting her key on 4/16 so they want her to be able to show off
>>563260541But gaysmoke ends today.
>>563259964yes they do
>>563259964Florence does, meaning most if not all also do.
What's V0 Tulpa40's rotation?
>>563259964Most do have nipples
>>563259964sop got the nipples mod
>>563261603Literally just being there for goymachina.
>>563261603S2 > S1, repeat
>>563258360do not redeem!
>>563262013s2 and s1 on Lainie or the clone?
>>563262253always the clone
>>563262284so you don't use the actual doll ever huh? great design Chong, very cool
>>563262465Motorcycle, stupid robot and now cloneWhat will Chong do next?
>>563262578Alters. Wait no, he has started doing that too.
>>563261782These dramatic story arts look retarded with her tits hanging out like this.
>>563266312Thanks for your input, Vincent.
>>563262578AS Val will be an uncontrollable doll. The one summoned is her bear Misha, the one with the skills. Depending on the skill, AS Val will act.
Idea:Doll whose skills are purely RNG dealing as low as 10% damage and as high as 1000%
>>563268143MG without VFL attachment plus crit rate debuff HG ?
>>563266312These AI-generated images is perhaps the real reason why they didn't go back and redo the design
>>563261782>make RO tits bigger>make SOP tits biggerTick tock Sturfags she will get double D
>>563272313>can I hug youNo she can not. I'm busy.
>>563274771doggeh...
>Soppo dismantling your reproductive organs out of curiosity
>>563274995
>>563274972bad dog
>>563274995Slutty doll who just wants to flaunt her sinful frame on the beach
Sex with UMPshttps://files.catbox.moe/2n4i93.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/m79z3x.mp4
>>563277005I'm not ready to be a family man yet
>>563277005is this what happens on fridays>>563278030too late
I rolled for 40 but skipped 9 and 45.
>>563278404UMPs are package deal. You rolled for one, you rolled for three.
>>563278404
>>563278404Same. I don't have the funds to do elec team and physical.
>>563278527>>563278528¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>563278725wtf
deploy THAT
>>563280813UNIVERSE DESTROYER DEPLOYED
>>56327852740 is not a real UMP
>>563280813Bought the $50 pack and now?
>>563281020WHOAAAAAA
>>563281059buy all the packs
>Nikketa is $1 slutGFL2 doesn't have $1 slut?
>>563281829Vepley is a 1CP slut and Meido is a 10 token slut.
You know the day, you know the time and now you know how it starts. STARturday is here once again, the coolest day of the week. This time even cooler because is the end of gunsmoke, no need to thank her. She is just doing her work
Steaks15 of them
>>563280813
Is Lewis lewd on purpose?
>>563282215>>563282348Dork
COOL!
EXTRA COOL!!!!
>>563282215>>563282348>>563282809>>563282878whoa...!
Vepley!https://files.catbox.moe/0ngr9y.mp4
>>563283401That's a bit scary.
>>563282971No, not you too!!!
>>563283741How to recover from getting raped by Stur?
>>563283401kill yourself
>>563283496well she is a soulless murderbot behind the cute retarded aidoru facade
>>563284234stop being so tsun, Anon-kun~
>>563284494She's not REALLY dead, is she? We're get her eventually, right? She was our first, she deserves it...
>>563284125There isn't any way to recover. If even STURD rapes you, your human rights are 100% revoked. Every single doll after that point will rape you.
Smooch Stur day
>>563284494SMOOOOOCH
>>563284870SLAP
>>563285056
Teaching the dolls the Bible so they can be holy and chaste women instead of sinners
>>563285185They have no soul anon.
>>563285185Bad idea. You will just end up with doll Jesus or something.
>>563285076erocat!
>>563284870
>>563285331
>>563285076wtf when does she wear this on the crew deck
>>563285569When you ask
>>563285263>>563285331I'm running out of options to prevent surprise intercourse sessions. Please tell me it works
>>563285569this summer!
Somehow they made the 18/40 drill easier than the 10th floor>no AoE protection enemies>no camouflage enemies>bear spawns in the corner instead of the middle so it'd take the shitters way longer to get to him (provided they didnt explode on spawn)
>>563285515>creations of scienceMore like some gypsy stolen precursor tech over human tech amalgam, but you do you Kongjew.
>>563284630She got eaten bwo...
>>563286737how is that not science though
>>563286851It's not OUR science.
>>563286923But it is science
>>563286831But maybe she survived that...
I tried a drink that has Leinad Kcaj in it. How the hell did M16 grow to like that swill? Never regretted a drink purchase before that.
>>563288986Try family drink that cheese drink is actually good
>>563288986I think liking a lot of the different alcohol flavors is genuinely just cope even IRLLike I can't imagine how Jägermeister possibly got as big as it did, shit is vile
>>563289312
>>563289369
>>563289256I am very fond of cheese so I imagine I will have a much more favourable resposne to hers.>>563289312Sometimes I wonder. I usually just get beer, maybe cider sometimes but since I saw the bottle there I figured I would ask for something with it. Tried rum a couple of years back and was not a fan of that either so the stronger stuff is probably just not for me.>JägermeisterI honestly had no idea it was big, I have only ever seen my mum have it. I was told it was something old people drink not too long ago as well.
>>5632893120% wine and flavored 0% beer can be great. Can't speak for anything else as I'm a sworn abstainer and those are pretty much the only 0% booze I could find that weren't solely meant for use in cocktails.
>>563289703whoa...
>>563290298You sound like a really fun person.
>>563290312Stop that. Kuso is a good girl.
>>563290573At least I'm never drunk.
>>563289369SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK
>>563290654Then why is she not releasing in GFL2 ?
>>563290916Well, what do you think makes her a good girl?
>>563290916You are not ready
>>563290916Thats what the second PNC collab is for
>>563290846FAMI NO!!!
>>563290975>>563290980This unc is definetly ready
>>563290573Its also telling if you consider fun same as drinking or drunkennes
ima just call kuro 4J from now on
>>563291359Same but I think about molesting 4J a lot
>>563291506me too but full on sex
>>563291254I want fuck SKK
>>563277005>PMCs aren't allowed to use the most advanced firearms, thus their 50+ year old guns>meanwhile 2060s guns are like this
>>563290698>>563291353>seethes so hard at being called out he has to reply twice
>>563292614meds schizo
>>563292681Yep, a real fun guy.
>>563292423
>>563292856spiritually raped anon right here
>>563292856You are mentally ill. Enjoy your life of alcoholism.
>>563292614how do you possibly see those 2 inoffensive posts as seethe
>>563293108NEW?!
>>563292983The only one who was raped is you by me.
You want this.
>seething this hardlole
>>563293436Yes!
Just log off and go drink
>>563292423>only 1 reply for my half naked picThis place fell off
>>563293827nyo
Soon
Aaahhh
Does this count as nudes or guro?
>>563294748SPLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURT
>>563294810@Dande why Klukai womb have heart emoticon?
>>563292423RAPE
>>563295159One might say guro at a glance but I take it more as those dogeza images with women prostrating themselves next to all the clothes they took off
>>56329242338 years old btw
>robot setting>flesh is stronger
>>563296778SOP (forma bad end)...
>>563296778>Biomechanical gen 3s>Keep losing to gen 2s and purely mechanical gen 3s
We need more scenes when the giant robot's pilot is stronger than their own giant robot.
>>563297547
>>563292423Heyyyyyyyyyyy
I'll take a pound of nuts
>>563297778*smackYou're late
>>563297923why is she mad
>>563293436Yes, I do.
>>563296778https://files.catbox.moe/eoo41e.mp4need evil women
>>563294748>>563295352https://files.catbox.moe/0j8us7.mp4
I've had enough of evil. I desire kind natured and good women.
>>563299916anon. that's a robosupremacist
>>563300259>robosupremacistwho does she want as a boyfriend again?
>>563300259She's kind and good (to me)
>>563296336does he get faster the smaller he is?
>>563301102like a pug version of a gun
>>563225219i think she's being a spaniard not clumsy
>>563301161I dont think theres a unified speed, if youre smaller youre just slower in this gameOr at least I feel slow as fuck walking around as Sakura in the crew deck
>>563300883many such cases
>>563300883I don't consent
>>563292423Tied up and gagged in the back of my cafe please
>>563302159What's the plug for...
>>563302447banana
not girls' frontline
Are they girls?Are they in the frontlines?
>>563292423SKK...
>>563303364WHENS SHE COMING BACK
>>563302861Imagine she licking my rear iykwim
>>563302861>non-binary commander>chibishit>30 bucks for a vehicledoa
>>563304087>>non-binary commanderNo, credits where it's due they have MALE and FEMALE gender for their skk. No ambiguous mystery freak.
>>563304529WHOAAA
>>563304529give me more evil women
>>563304662>请选择你的形象 - Please choose your character (appearance)>干练短发 - Neat short hair>飘逸长发 - Flowing long hair
>>563305190ppppffffffff
>>563305190OH NO NO NO NO NO NO CEDARXISTERS WTF IS THIS!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>>563305190Kill it with fire lmao
>>563305190>>563305284>>563305349>>563305367(You)r opinions do not matter unless you speak mandarin
Why do we care about some other gacha game?
>>563303364Is Stg commissioner SKK still alive?
>>563305454Shills be shillin.
>>563305190>>563305402PROJECT TROONDAR LMAOFINALLY, A GACHA GAME FOR THE 41% THAT TRULY MATTERS!
>>563305454You don't understand anon this is gf1 at home so this means it's on-topic!
>>563305073sugoi... I wish they were little again though, these guys are too SMASHED and SLAMMED
>>563305490I see.>>563305534I know you are joking but we already have GF1 at home...
>>563305190it's nyover...
I hope Ruchey is after Sop
Really suits that vtranny that wants to larp as Lee
>>563305741>we already have GF1 at home...True.>shartknights>nigge>slop archive>now cedarKinda crazy how influential GF really is when literally everyone's been ripping it off prior to genshit becoming the role model.
bepu~ri
>>563305989I meant it literally but are all of those that similar? I only know how Blue Archive "plays". I assume Cedar is the one anons are posting here.
Cedar? More like Negar.
>>563306169Cedar is the one being posted, but it's also the only one I know of that had the devs talking about how they were going to do Girls' Frontline "right." That was a big part of their early marketing.
>>563305190tacticucks???
>>563305979By the way. Did we ever find out could she dance from the anniversary event messages? Lenna was not good dancer at least. I'd like to think Leva had to learn to dance, so she could teach skk alone, for the mission/date they had.
>>563305190>>563306174Cedar? More like Gaydar lmeow
>>563306174Erotic.>>563306335Did they elaborate on what they meant? Not going to call it perfect but if they are making a gacha I fail to see what they can do to improve on GF.
>>563306598ump45 chibi valentines outfit dance.gifI don't have it saved so you're gonna have to imagine it
>>563304662>>563305190That's weird there was some cg with their (not commander) and it clearly was a guy or a girl depending on that selection, strange way to frame it.What's even the deal with male or female? Is it so hard to implement?
>>563306169>shartknightsSpiritual ripoff, led by the faggot responsible for GF1's few early dogshit chapters no less (don't you worry, he hasn't learned anything). Has its own bootleg Sop, Lunasia, etc except with bara furry cock and used goods cuckshit added on top.>niggeLiteral ripoff, utterly shameless in how basically identical the premise is except it's all extremely generic sci-fi with none of the worldbuilding or nuance.>slop archiveSee nigge minus the robots and it's ubermegagigageneric schoolslop with no stakes of ANY kind.
>>563305190>live doll reaction
>>563306816In the BIG 2026 there are NO genders, MALE and FEMALE have ceased to EXIST...
>>563306836And yet they're more successful that GF, curious.
>>563306836>bootleg SopShe's MK18, the would-be 6th AR team member
>>563306992>appeal to popularity
>>563306730Lot of dolls dance in victory, even ump9, who can't dance in the anniversary event.
Man do people even care about the GFL vs AK at this point?
>>563307330Do you count /mbg/ users as people?
>>563306816Here found it again, a bit uncanny too how he looks similar someone
To get back on topic, I hope they give Bathilde a costume like they did for Lotta. She's cute.I don't know what kind of outfit would fit her though
>>563307373Dont even know what that fucking is
>>563306727>Did they elaborate on what they meant?Yeah, but I didn't save it. I mostly just remember some nonsense about how tragic it was for Mica to move away from thought-out, tactical designs, and they singled out FAL as an example of when it had been done right.
>>563307484Meant /vmg/. Antibiotics and painkillers don't lead to a clear head.
You're a 30 year old unc with no house, no job, no work experience, no education, no family, and no hobbies besides collecting figurines. You've got dry ashy skin, refuse to do skincare treatment for your nasty ass scars, your hair is greying, your hairline is receding so you cope by growing it out, can't even grow a beard, still have those teenage face pubes. You live in a glorified RV that's going to be taken away from you some day anyway.Face it, SKK. You've hit the wall. You'll have to settle for someone like Kuro. Honestly, not even kuro is your looksmatch anymore. Not fat and no kids? That puts her in the top 10% for your age group. You should be happy that she even pays attention to you at all.
>>563307373Harlaus would never care about such things...
>>563307330I dont think normal people care about tribalismProblem is it only takes one loud retard to stir shit up and have people feel compelled to reply to him
>>563307412>"We have the commander at home"
>>563307551Yeah i know vmgI know they never shut up about endfield and how it will die in 20 days or something
>>563307603That's cause it ain't butter.
>>563307585
>>563307904kitty hiiiiiii
>>563307496The norf…….
>>563307412is that a fucking elf?
This game needs this.
>>563306836So most of the Arknights plot is on par with early GF1? Sounds rough.>etcThere are more? That makes me curious. I only know a few characters from that since I just looked at the porn every now and then.>NikkeThis is the arse game, yeah? Hard to imagine it being anything like this.>BAI am familiar with this one, dropped it.>>563307280Was there a reason the MOD versions danced or did they just do it for fun?>>563307515>and they singled out FAL as an example of when it had been done right.For a tactical design? I am not misunderstanding that, am I?
>>563308354No but this is
>>563308190Binland carries
>>563307585No.. you are right.. I need to settle for an hag with a child, or doll doter.
>>563308487I've got just the middle aged woman for you.
>>563307436I hope they give her a skin with nipple pasties and a thong
>>563308407Are you having a laugh mate?
>>563308580
>>563308624That seems pretty bold for her...
>>563308487...
Other than the obvious "hehe V6 everybody", what would dupes would I want the others at in these teams to have a good team for V6 SOP? And yes I know they can function at V0, but I want a really good team for my wife
>>563309041V6 everybody
>>563298324RC collab WHENI will use THAT to V6R6 Sugar day one
>>563307436She's called sexdwarf in the files I think. A sports or race queen outfit might fit, but for some reason due to her friendship with the plant-loving wolfkin maybe a sylvan or druid outfit kinda like what Mosin has in fire control might work too. Does anyone know how fire control is doing these days?
>>563310345Joey deserves the Ullrid treatment.
>>563309041>>563309041SOPs kit is weird...theres prob unreleased dolls that will go better with her. Kind of like how RO was complete dumpster tier when she released and needed Alva to have any semblance of usefulness. SOP isn't nearly that bad obviously, but I think theres gonna be a doll or two that count as both fire and ice released later so she can proc all her passives to reach full potential. Until then focusing on ice with v2 Alva and a v6 Ro seems the way to go.
>>563308624>>563308843You know what this rough and tough no nonsense dwarf needs?A nice dress.
>>563309861>sexdwarfThat was Sextans
>>563307436Wrench monkey like her is for dress, beautiful where her hidden charms come out like in some cliche filled movie.
>>563311526She loses the boots with a dress though and that is a huge shame.
>>563311526>>563310893Dresses like this for the whole doll community...
>>563311669Matching sets for hocs!
>>563311669Doll community ball? Sounds great ngl.
>>563309861She's called Bathilda in the files, Sexdwarf is Sextans.
>>563311669Ullrid really has the perfect frame
So who's the dedicated SKK ass tickler?
>>563309041V2 Alva for the +1 CI generationV2 DSR for the buffV0 Groza Negro is fine but higher vetebrae will allow you to play her on all teams at her bestRO is V0 or V6 because her expansion key is catered to whales
>>563311669
>>563313613Evelyn?
>>563313418Is V2 Alva or V2 DSR a better overall pick?
>>563313896V2 DSR works on multiple teams, Alva is tied to Ice
>>563312058>line to dance with SKK, the only man present
>>563313613that shawl is so damned dorky
>>563313725Kon Kon Kon Kon Kon Sahur
>>563313725Furina!
>>563314824Furina!?
>>563313990There is time reservation table. Every doll gets 30 mins with skk on the dance floor. Leaving the crowd with skk is prohibitet.
>>563313990>>563315167Do I get a say in this?
>>563315284You get to say yes or I agree
>>563315284No.
>>563313418>>563313961What about Helen? I think I've read she was good for ult spamming but I guess she's not that necessary if you get a V2 Loreley even though her ember tiles don't count as fire tiles for SOP iirc, yes?
Grabbing SKKs firm ass.
>>563306836What about the other Collapse game?
>>563315486>>563315442But what about my human rights?
>>563315060Furina!!
>>563315695iirc Helen doesnt really matter for SOP because SOP will be using her ult every turn anyway
>>563315818Human what now? Doll community does not recognize such thing.Honestly, doll community celebrating founding day or anniversary in form of a ball sounds wholesome.
>>563315818kek
>>563315695Helen will run with the 2nd ice team when Wa inevitably gets a monster 2nd modkey.
>>563315695Helen does not resonate well with RO and Soppo and would fit a ult spam team better (like WA and Dush)
Why is Homete being associated with the tranny from tranny impact?
>>563316593The raiders from earlier are still lurking and mad their raid failed
I HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS
>>563316762kek
>>563315695She exists to counter multihit/AoE damage bosses like the current GS boss which is pretty niche all things considered, has AoE cleanse and ultimate cooldown reduction for the team along with dispel on basic atacks plus her V1 gives one of the better buffs (+20% Crit damage), she's in a good spot for a future expansion key too. V0 is fully a RO support, V3 enhances her counter atack capabilities and makes her ultimate have permanent uptime, she's pretty decent for a support. The big problem for ice is that they don't really have a true damage carry except for Whaled out Groza Negro who is basically M4 mod3 at this point for every team or Soppo who doesn't really benefit from her ultimate CDR so she ends up competing with DSR or Groza for a spot.Hopefully STUR will save us with her COOLNESS
>>563316593One of the translations for Hometes name is Furin and the Genshin girl is FurinaIts not that serious
>>563316762Human right to have doll love at any time of doll's choosing
>>563317059>i made it up
>>563317131I would want it more than the dolls so I fully agree with this being a human right.
>>563315783leva would smack skk's ass to tease or grope it a cheek at a timetina would fondle that ass to "check your progress" ulrid would squeeze your cheeks as her new favorite stress toyflorence is going in, better run if you don't want to get milked
>>563317131Those barely count as short shorts, holy sex.
>>563317131I forgot to mention it but they have to make this an outfit, especially if it comes with a proper pair of boots. It has the potential to be her best outfit.
>>563317131Why does she look so...aryan
>>563317131WHAT ABOUT MY CHOOSING?! HELLO?!
>>563317746German engineering.>>563317749You have choice of fight or flight, and lose in both scenarios.
>>563305897I hope she is too since I want to see you happy bwo>>563305979RIVA-NEEEEEEE>>563306115GO BEPURI GOOO>>563312061KITTYYYYYSMOOOCH
>>563317746It's really sad she isn't Chinese anymore
>>563318161I choose to fight and poorly so they can mock me for trying to fight at all.
>>563317746Jimmy BeamDo you rike?
>>563318460To think Family wishes for me to be happy...it makes me happy
>>563318560>so they can mock me for trying to fight at all.All you will be getting is being thoroughly manhandled, raped and spat on.
>>563318161That's just RAPE! I don't want that! My human rights are supposed to be protected at work!
>>563318813uuuhhhmmm
>>563318813Something's missing...
>>563318529It was only this one anyway.>>563318605For once, yes actually. I might even go so far as to say he made an improvement over the original alternate outfits.>>563318813No verbal abuse is a shame but the rest of this sounds perfect.
Leva really looks out of place among all these serial rapists.
>>563318605I'll never forgive Jimmy for giving her sleeves.
>>563319203Leva would 100% blackmail you into sex, of it was necessary. She uses her brains to rape, instead of her brawn.Also doter would never.
>>563319203Shut up. Doter would never. Helen and Nikketa wouldn't either but they'd try and trap you into a relationship.
>>563318813SAVE ME WA-CHAN
>>563319505omg coconut doggy
>>563319418>but they'd try and trap you into a relationshipThat would be Wacchiato, Loreley and Leva.
>>563318780Of course! That's what family's all about: Health, Happiness, and Hydration!
>>563319505>>563319563
>>563319389Realistically, how could Leva blackmail SKK?
MP40 owes me sex
>>563320027Hacking Elmo and digging for embarassing stuff
>>563319851>>563319418All I know is that the year 3 anniversary art will be pretty funny with her around.
>>563320419god look at that pittttttttt hnnnngggfucking YZ imagine if she kept her 4 arms
>>563320535This but with that tummy
>>563317746Rapeableness is everywhere.
>>563318813cursed timeline...
>>563320535I have a better one: imagine if she got what she fucking deserved.
>>563320374Like what?
>Year 2079>Kalina is pregnant with her first child>Miscarriage happens>SKK is in the dumps, they've been trying for years but the radiation side-effects have impeded it>Vepley suddenly appears>Jumps in front of him>"Shall I sing a song?" :DDDWhy is she like this?Total Vepley hate
>>563318813What if I cry when they do that
>>563321323Simping superchats to Kuro's channel, your OnlyDolls account and feet pics you sent to Kalina.
>>563321535That's the type of situation that would make Florence bluescreen on top of you.
>>563321641>Let her leak everything>Don't get rapedWow, that was bad.
>>563317131short hair when?
>>563319505they better put the rat in or I will get angryMica doesn't want me to get angery
>>563321901Xinghuan....
>>563321838You get doubly raped after the leaks, as you are revealed to be a robosexual pervert.
>>563322284She will never be ballin'
>>563322135By who? Kuro won't do shit, no one would do shit.
>>563322089insta-roll and insta-buy for me if she releases along with her detective skin
why the fuck is this thread just full of AI slop
>>563322621
>>563319203Maki and everyone to the right of her, is getting it.
>>563322621get on with the times unc lmao
>>563322284dande is this real
>>563322621>why the fuck is a thread dedicated to a game about AI full of AI
>>563321901Not soon enough. Also a rare case of the art looking better than the 3D for 2.>>563322621Low standards or none at all.
>>563323621Anon... your antialiasing....
>>563322816SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH
>>563321709Imagine her raping a clueless 19 year old SKK into becoming a doll stud
>>563324524Dush' mom has got it going on
>>563324083
>>563324524She's her guardian, not a mom.
>>563324801Both
I like the other translation more desu
>>563325138That reads like a joke.
>>563325242Reads like something SKK would say
>>563325242It was translated by ceia so what do you expect?
>>563324953TLanon>>563325138Trannylator
Glory to Mothers
Look at this example of tacticool, what a shame Mica moved away from designs like this.>>563322621What are we supposed to do about it? AIniggers are everywhere now and it's easy to generate garbage. It's also likely that a lot of them are doing it specifically to get a rise out of people, because there's no way they really think anyone appreciates their "art"
>>563325559Somehow I doubt that.>>563325682Nothing because I have no idea what he is like but if this is his normal output, I guess I expect very little.
>>563325995
>>563325995>>563326104>>563326209Paying customers and the target audience here, we want more like these please.
>>563325995>>563326104>>563326209>>563326386now give us her evil sister.
>>563326386PAINTED
>>563320659>>563320419Hips made for breeding
>>563326386>>563326552M-mommies gugu gaga???
>>563326104is catbox shitting the bed, or did my scripts finally die?
>>563322621AI doesn't an hero or meltie bwo... It just makes the stuff... the future is now old man...
Post more about rape
>tripfag>eats AI sloppottery
>>563326995GoodLord
>>563327143Yeah the soundplayer doesn't work for a bunch of soundposts anymore for some reason
>>563327670what about the non-tripfags that eat AI slop, would that also be pottery?
>>563326995Giving Dushy a little sister!
>>563327852Making Dushy a mother is better
>>563327943DO NOT DOTERS
>>563325995Brutal framemogging
>>563326034>tacticoolShe's ok but they can do better.
>>563327943That's my wife's daughter you're talking about.
Mica... Florence's colleages... please...
>>563328658Hello, Father-in-law
I'm assembling a team, the Rape Team.
>>563328695>the monkey paw curls
>>563328195Why not?
>>563328546Was meming about the earlier conversation in regards to >>563307515, though I agree it would be nice having more ornate combat dresses.We need at least one doll in WW2 uniform considering how many we had in the first game.>>563328695>>563328923>>563328959PNC = NPC, sorry
>>563329313BECAUSE THEY'RE DOTERS YOU DOLT!
>>563329373Too erotic
>>563313961But does anyone actually do that? I don't think I've seen Lorelei paired up with any other team in the usual CN graphs for teams that get posted occasionally.
>>563329591V2 Loreley is game breaking for 40/40s and turns the ember buff from fire only into universal for gunsmoke
>>563329591Because she's second best, usually removing Ksenia's filler slot, don't have Vector? DSR, No K2? DSR, No Springfield? DSR, No Andoris? DSR
What's PNC?
>>563330356A figment of good times past
Any hao platoon recruiting?
SAVE ME PERSICARIAAAAAAAAAAA
AYO THIS NIGGA PLAYING ON HAO
>>563331082>cucked by herselffull circle back to vanilla
>>563329330Kar98k will definitely fix that. Otherwise my vote is on P08 or G43 making it.
>>563331082Looking at the beta artwork, beta groza certainly looks closer to Ots-14 rather than our current Groza
>>563331503>Kar98kI only want her if they keep her ludicrous small size
>>563331610Better res
This Black elmo uniform should come back desu
>>563331938that blender fuzz though.
>>563332215Yea that's how they showcased them.The wall textures are literally from an AC unit as you can see.Prototype dorm looked comfy with that color grading
>>563331938>>563332182>>563332397this is so nice. The spaces actually looked like they're inhabited. The ones we have now are so sterile.. Guess we can blame the mobile version for the downgrade, a phone would melt trying to play this.
>>563332182It will for the SF return
>>563331503>Kar98kany day now...
>>563332182Non canon
>>563333334Wish it was canon
>>563332397sovl
>>563331221erotic ghost
Kuro will be powerful and will be Corrosive/Electric
>>563329421Cute Ameli
>>563336664Riva-nee...why...
>>563328195They should not be so sexy then.
>>563332846>Paradeus still around and even hijacking governments still>SF maybe not 100% wiped outWho else didn't die?
>>563337447Non cannon
>>563337447SF as an entity doesn't exist anymore I think but the Ringleaders are still around, and I think G&K uses the mooks still?
https://www.youtube.com/live/njoX1jN1i7A?t=14432sSF will be back.
During these 10 years, she was creating her own nation for soldiers.
What happened to that group of Sangvis Elisa teleported away?
>>563328546That Tactical Themed Uniform one is sexy. Perfect boots.
>>563326034There is literally nothing tacticool about this design.
>>563339661
>>563339661now that the dust has settled, was the mech actually as stupid as it was initially received? Babycarrier aside, I mean.
>>563340405I actually like seeing the mech in combat but it's because it obscures AK15 enough from top-down that you won't really notice it has an open frontIf it was a proper mech and not a beefed up exosuit I'd love that, seeing it from the front still sucks
>>563340475woah
>>563338203Wait, so the Nytos getting captured are canon then?>>563340405I still do not like the design of the exosuit but the idea itself was never bad. I also would have preferred it be an alternate moveset after her ultimate.
>>563340475But why?
>>563343141She insulted DushieDushie didn't hear but Helen did
>>563342508>Wait, so the Nytos getting captured are canon then?nyes
>>563344794why is she looking like that?
STARTURDAY!!
>>563344646I just figured only the Sangvis ones actually happened.
How long did the CN server stay on indefinite maintenance for again? It's been almost a month and a half for Snowbreak so far
>>563338203>12 identitiesCheeky bitch
>>563342508>Wait, so the Nytos getting captured are canon then?Surely it's just shitters like black and white, and maybe Gray Or maybe he's just referring to the nytolings
>mfw SKK didn't have time to smuggle the XL Manticore into the Elmo
>>5633456643 or 4 months iirc.
Here's your daily rape dose anon
>>563346163(((((((Grig)))))) can definitely come back as a sword unit
>>563347135Grig was still with willy at the end of VP
M16 will be the introductory character banner that comes with SF who will be relegated into being HOC units, at least the ones who won't fit into the current weapon types.
>>563346163Probably but it is still a surprise either way. Weird to me that they are weak enough to be called "shitters".
>>563347479I dont even think theres a problem with just fitting everyone into existing weapon types, like make Alchemists peashooters an SMG, who caresThe only problem is the accessories, and honestly? Just make them invisible on the gun itself, who cares x2
>>563347017As much as I love dolls raping me, this is not rape, come on now.
>>563347256And soon enough you can have your very own slightly used one.
>>563338203>>563347479Feels like she's one of the few if not the only SF capable of joining back, assuming everyone else on SF got their happy end
>>563347674now make it make sense as guns for every other smg doll to use as skins
>>563348031Hunter, executioner and a stretch for dreamer to be banner SF characters, everyone else is sent to the HOC zone
>>563348031You just know that dande was live streaming that to them.
>>563348307I keep forgetting she's capable of tapping into a doll's vision at ANY moment.
>>563348073They just hold it in one hand like a needler
>>563349280
>>563339271Yeah, it's pretty nice.
>>563346556Did the XS sangvis make it aboard? I don't know if I could live without their help anymore
>>563349280>>563349448Fuck both of you
>>563351679
>>563349280>>563349448love both of you
>mfw she's alive in this game
I'm tired, danchode...
>>563352207GIVE HER A HOPE INJECTION NOWOR ELSE
>>563353913GWAAAAAAA
>>563353472Who?
>>563354098GF1 had a Honkai collab, don't worry about it.
>>563354005Thank you very very very muchI hope you have...a GREAT WEEKEND
>>563354279Oh from that. That explains the gun then. Hardly an expert but I have never seen that before.
>>563344921Hehe rape XD so funny LOL
>>563354005Tzeentch has arrived.
>>563354669
>>563355637Calm down, Vincent. It's not our fault your uncle raped you.
Endfield just got censored btw
girls' frontline line
>>563355637Looks like someones been evading the routine rape sessions and getting uppity...
>>563355693They're targeting the Mihoyo crowd? Or at least the Honkai crowd.
>>563355693Vincent has an uncle that loves him?
>>563356679Better a cocksucker than a blood money thirsting child killer.
>1 unfunny retard reposting the same meme over and over>1 guy having a full on melty over it for some reason>1 unrelated autist hallucinating his micro-e-celeb crush to be part of the conversationinsane things happening here
>>563357029too big
>>563357029Never enough doll blowjobs.
I just asked why she is looking like that and now I get dragged into this schizo shit
>>563357493you wishbut you cant samefag as hard anymore after owo became a paid site thats why you stopped copying shit as often since youre actually scared of being banned now :)
Reminder to collect your free energy event
Sorry for having a melty over unfunny shit being spammed yet again. There, you happy?
>>563357904Fuck off, Vindalooshit.
Was anon actually raped?
>>563357307I swear I've barely seen any in the last year. The first game got so much more quality fan art, probably because it was 2d.
>>563359010Is water wet?
>>563358462By the comet!
>>563358462Soppo's red rocket...
If INSAS makes a return in 2, will she still be a joke?
>>563339661>>563340295WHOAAAAAAA
When did they add GF1 CGs to the loading screens
>>563345264YYEAAAAAAA
>>563349280Famisumi...
>>563363413bwo...
This is why you're broke SKK
>>563363757bwo I just alt tab when this game is running
has shitcan canonically been raped by any of the dolls like in FGO and Nikke?
You know, objectively Ringleaders are superior dolls compared even military T-Dolls.>They've only ever been defeated under overwhelming firepower>Durable as a full dummy squad>Massive damage output for "one" doll>Can direct entire armies of dolls>Tactics can compete with human commanders>Can simultaneously fight and engage in EW.>Can go toe to toe with Nytos that mop the floor with T-dolls>All T-doll advancements are based on them.>Have full "real" personalitiesLyco just shits all over Persica and the other chick.
>>563366504He says no to whatever Florence does. Florence says his body is honest while his lips aren't.
>>563366972I mean yeah it's not exactly controversial the first game's narrative openly admitted to much of those points.
>>563366504It won't be explicitly stated because China but yes. Molested in sleep, taken advantage of when drunk, by force, etc.
>Ringleader of the week>Nyto of the week>Gen 3 of the weekWill there be a Shrike of the week too? That same character who could've fit into the above 3 in personality and maybe minor design chances?
>>563367520Nikke is China though
>>563367681>Nikke is ChinaPlease tell me you're joking
>>563308464Who is this?
>>563367845Their Publisher is Chinese but the game itself is developed by Gooks
>>563368947>Tencent is a major investor and the second-largest shareholder with approximately 34.58% to 35% stake in the companyYeah technically Tencent own them
>>563368947Every publisher is chinese in China, you goober. That's how publishing works there.
>when the "become a wife" code kicks in
>>563371258SKK's aura is unstoppable, turning even the most bloodthirsty killbot into a good wife. Truly a Blessed One.
>>563371258it's what their mom wants
>>563366972Sangvis Ferris are technically military-grade, as they were widely used during WW3, but would be considered outdated during the time of GFL. The setting doesn't have that many advanced "military T-Dolls" outside the antiquated Daybreak squad and the cutting edge DEFY, both of which curbstomp any RL.>They've only ever been defeated under overwhelming firepowerGnK is comprised of refitted civilian dolls that normally wouldn't stand a chance. SF has literally never put up a good fight against anyone else, outside clearing low-grade Paradeus in Avernus with assistance.>Durable as a full dummy squadGameplay-only, they can die to a single bullet wound in canon>Massive damage output for "one" dollThey're equipped with explosives and a reckless disregard for life, if the military wanted to destroy a city block they would use a missile>Can simultaneously fight and engage in EW/can direct entire armies of dolls45 has been able to pull off similar feats. Not like it's hard, regular SF are dumb drones only good for volume fire, it's a lot different leading humans/dolls>Can go toe to toe with Nytos that mop the floor with T-dollsGager+Architect got solo'd by Narciss, it took the entirety of Executioner+Intruder+Alchemist+Judge+Destroyer+Dreamer to kill her>Have full "real" personalitiesThey're caricatures like every other doll, I like them but you can't deny their personalities are pretty simple>All T-doll advancements are based on them.Now you're just wanking.Lyco was important but he worked alongside Persica and a bunch of other scientists in 90WISH. He was mainly geared towards Relic research which was the entire point of Elisa, while Persica was the one specialized in Neural Clouds and software, neither being hardware autists like Shaw so it's not like he was the reason for RL combat prowess either.
>>563372895>45 has been able to pull off similar feats.Isn't 45 also a SF T-doll? Iirc Destroyer and Dreamer also used to be DSI-8s before being modified.
>dream about Mishty skin>wake up>it's not thereCHOOONG
>>563373807>dream about my dollwife and her big fat tits>wake up>she's not thereCHOOONG
That Helen mod still showing up on my feeds. Jesus Christ she is HUGE
>>563374476>dream about dollwife giving a goodnight kiss>wake up>be confused that it's morning and time to get upSounds about right
https://youtu.be/pCMX4oXn0xw
>>563371649Ok, let's say Dolls achieve means of reproduction, how will it work when we can choose between male and female?
>>563371649
>>563375662Leave Cocoon to me
>>563375295If they actually put in some doll baby gimmick it would be extremely pointless and bland for one of two reasons. >Gentianes existence means its has to be through some stork tier shit where they just take blood samples and no sex>China morality nonsense means it has to be through some stork tier shit where they just take blood samples and no sexI hope the reproducing plot stuff just stays an evil woman thing and never actually progresses beyond that cause they cant and wont do it the way any one wants it.
>>563377126>I hope the reproducing plot stuff just stays an evil woman thing and never actually progresses beyond that cause they cant and wont do it the way any one wants it.We are burning Yuzhong Ferrari
>>563372895>Gager+Architect got solo'd by Narciss, it took the entirety of Executioner+Intruder+Alchemist+Judge+Destroyer+Dreamer to kill herIt depends I guess. Executioner was mostly on par with Grig.
Back to the recruitment mines...Voymastina has arrived! The mightiest force of DEFY!All of her enemies shall tremble and cry!Steadfast in her presence; the Timber Wolf's eyeWeapons Online, All Systems Nominal Alva's desire shall always ring trueNo matter the horizon's color or hueAnd if one chooses to skip this banner anewThen for her, a cat is fine, too But wait, where's Sharkry? She's wandered off!Muttering something about the past, she scoffed and embarkedSomething's not right, I have no recollection of her therePerhaps I'll make a call, she mi-SHIKAN-SAMA!The Dork ListPlatoon ID 101796Contact 13848, 156820 or 10056 if you'd like to join!We have room for at least 5 dorks. Maybe up to 10 if a smaller group wants to join.
>>563342508If a nyto has the chance to go against Paradeus ofcourse skk let them join his crew
>>563367664I like evil dorks of the week format
>>563377234>>563377126He will move to Korea with his staff to make the gen 3 doll evil sex scenes
>>563336613>cheddar shill debases himself to shill to dead gameslmao
>>563377126Just remove Gentiane from the game, problem solved. Nothing of value would be lost.
>>563377126If only Gentiana don't exist...
>>563377126>remove Gentialsproblem solved
>>563377126like how in nikke where skk had his seed non-consensually extracted straight from his testicles and used to make a kid for him and one of the main girls
Gentiane needs to stay.If we remove her we will get Snowbreak'd.Her pink hair yuribait is the only thing shielding Exilium.
>>563374648What Helen mod?
the female dolls will grow shrike cocks to impgrenate gentiane
Always a surprise when my loop takes 5 mins rather than half an hour.
>he loops gunsmoke
>>563386539This webm but>naked>inverted nipples>bigger areola>jungle bush
>>563388739FAMISMOOOOOOOOOOCH>>563388692SMOOOOOOOOOOCH
famismack
Surely you meant famisnack
Which doll has the biggest mood swing?
>>563389069Darling!>>563388894NO>>563389069YES>>563389337SMOOCH
>>563388739Family is a temptress whore.
We need more aura farming
>>563389902aura farm this*SMACK*
We need less Kulo
Uncs can't handle the peak wife for cracking
MDR will be the first T3 v6 doll
>>563389337Treating Judge like a dress-up doll!
>>563390326Sex dwarf
>>563389337>>563390326SF dolls when...?
>>563387660He is a wise man. Fuck gunsmoke.
>>563390872Do your hits
>>563390872If you are scoring under 7k points per hit and never killing the boss I'm gonna kick your ass.
>>563390951This is why you're never getting laid.>>563391303>can't slash horizontally
DP12 stonks
>>563391662
>>563391303>I'm gonna kick your assNo. Don't make not do gunsmoke. Don't make it harder for the platoon to level up. Anything but that Danchode
>>563391682How important is her gun, anyways?
>>563391682Open fire on this anon
>>563390951>pick team>set order of action>press auto>tab outThat's the best you're getting from me.>>5633913036800 max, not a single kill. Whatcha gonna do?
>SINfags A N A L L Y RAVAGEDKEKAFUVARKINGROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>563391781Don't know about her gun but I like KSVK momma tits
I want to sniff Persica
>>563391858>6800 max, not a single kill. Whatcha gonna do?Kick your ass. IN REAL LIFE.
>>563391862>DD shitposting when they're only #16 lole
>>563391862>all those level 12 platoons5+ years funded by whales already.
>>563391959You wouldn't beat me up for scoring 6,500 on one of my runs, would you?
I haven't scored 6800 once
>>563392167As long as your average is 7k or more you are safe for now.
>>563391303I always manual shitsmoke and I feel lucky to break 7k with my first on-element team with perfect buffs and 6k with my second on-element team, and I've never killed any of the bosses once...
>>563392319Bwo... Is your platoon completely whaleless?
Gentledorks, place your bets.
>>563392378We have the basics in V6R1 Kluck, Voy, Leva, even a Yoohee, a Vector, a Mosin and an Andoris. No Captain China or Lewis though.
we need to force the commander to eat something else
>>563392581Voy+Yoohee+fillers should already score over 7k
J NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
>>563392707Borrowed V6R1 Voy and my own poverty v0 Yoohee with my full Water team only break 7k with good buffs and even then by only a few dozen points.
>>563392926You're shit at the game is all.
>>563392926Do you not have any proper keys, everyone has purple keys and I assume they're just some small stat boost.
>>563394120Yeah.>generic 3% Crit Rate/3% ATK keys>attachments with perfect stats and sets but they've only been enhanced once
ill make a new thread on page 8
>>563394963Kuso
>>563392767I like this image
>>563394963This webm
>>563394963Lunasia
>>563394963Groza walking in on SKK and Dande having sex.
>>563391682IZADORK!
bruh
>>563395618She was really selling her role in some of those scenes. Bitch was cold
>>563395685BEPURIIIIISMOOOOOOOCHsauce?
>>563395798https://x.com/cubesugar0319/status/2043285070988099709
>>563395869Thanks, babeI wish I had your curated list of GF artistson account of my account being suspended for rting too much GF art
>>563392673My vote goes to dollpussy.
>>563396058> being suspended for rting too much GF artDid you get banned because of the new botpurge xitter is doing right now? I'm pretty sure you can easily appeal the ban then.Also I let others do the groundwork for me and just followed all the devoted gf artists they were retweeting + muting annoying drama-microcelebs
>>563223406We have room for three dorks now>RegionHaoplay Global>Platoon NameCunny>Casual/ActiveJust do your hits, no need to 3-hit in gunsmoke but you're welcome to do so. We got V6 support Klukai/Voymastina/Yoohee/etc... to make your experience a bit less painful.>Miscellaneous InfoHave some identification in your profile or message danchou/deputy for an invitation:Platoon ID - 101202Danchou - 10341Deputy - 441744
>>563396441My reason was for "inauthentic behavior, so probably. Had a lot of artists followed too. Hope they get back to me soon
>>563330720>>563396469
>>563396545Good luck with that fami
>>563396760Thankies. Wish I knew who drew that.
>>563392241that's my average
>>563392241its ok i still love you
>>563397061>>563397061Black thread, dont engage
>>563396878Oh wait there we go, found!
>>563359062I never used to look much but doll blowjobs specifically always seemed rare. That said I would not consider the first game to have a lot of fan art in general.>probably because it was 2d.I do wonder why this makes a difference, it seems people just do not like drawing 3D games for whatever reason.
>>563368947>GooksThe Vietnamese made a gacha?
>>563396878>>563397169power!
>>563382120Makes sense but at that point the only case I knew of was Dandelion and I still have no idea what the circumstances are with her. I assumed she was an exception.