>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-25-2026-update.121766/post-232903>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>563204418
>I am a shitter subhuman and will throw my hands and poop myself instead of adapting and buying counter items/changing how I move around the mapI fear if eugenic was implemented, a good majority of you would be castrated. This would be a good thing. We need less retards like (You).
Sex with Venator
>>563252214Why does doorman cause so much seethe?
>>563252214If eugenics were implemented we wouldn't have any Haze players left and the problem would be solved.
>HERES A TASTE...OF WHAT AWAITS THEM!>I'LL WEAR THEM DOWN!>I'M AN IRISH PAEDOPHILE!
every patch there is a new overtuned/OP character, and every time there is a new bunch of downplayers responding to every post talking about that character saying how easy it actually is to counter them, they actually suck in MY elo, etc... wonder why
What do you think Graves sweaty and rosy white girl armpits smell like
Man it really feels frustrating playing off-meta characters. I play Doorman because i think he's fun. Sweat my fucking ass off all game and still lose. Then i decide to play a match as Dynamo. Stomp is easier to hit than bell, shreds armor and deals one billion damage. Ult insta wins teamfights. Quantum entanglement dodges your entire team out of enemy ults and also clear all debuffs wiht a 8 second CD. I keep trying playing the character i like but its just so much easier to play the braindead overpowered character of the patch. Mind you that Doorman gets shit on every single time he gets to be even slightly overtuned
>>563252324because doorman got off scot free from little st james
>>563252405not mucht. my sister didn't stink when we were growing up
>saaaaaaaaar just buy metal skin broooWhy are haze players............ like this?
>>563252405formaldehyde
>>563252408How do you think I feel playing calico? Me and that anon from last thread working overtime to come up with a crumb of damage
>>563252408>Stomp is easier to hit than bellbell is comically easy to hit, so this is saying something
>>563252440same breed of>just buy healbane for victor bruh
>>563252547actually good advice now that he can't purge it
How do I win with McGinnis?
>>563252586duh
>>563252586yeah but that wasn't said now it was said back thenand infernus is in every match now
>>563252062Guys, I might be tired of playing deadlock. Like, I'm not constantly thinking about playing deadlock. I'm not jonesing for it anymore.
>>563252702Many people are saying this
>>563252702this is yoshi's fault
>enemy haze starts with egg and is throwing the entire match>doesn't help with objectives>takes ricochet second item after stealing jg from enemy team>doesn't show up for 30 minutes>we have one mid fight>she suddenly shows up and we lose the fight>lose game and she is MVP despite not interacting with the game for 3/4 of it
>>563252440Dude lol just buy metal skin>Merc mag is already a common buy for her ult build and she fucking kills you through metal skin with it>Their support can curse the highest value target and remove metal skin This is what happened to our Kelvin with metal skin active btw
Wouldn't Plated Armor be the only real defense vs haze anyway?
im still playing victor haha
>>563252530I mean bell needs you to hit the actual bell on top of the explosion if you want to do full damage, meaning there's a modicum of aiming required. Also don't even fucking get me started on Doorman's gun. Doorman is an utility character, if his gun was good he would be too overpowered, can't give a good gun to an utility character. Meanwhile Dynamo, who has the fucking ENIGMA ULT has the pinpoint accurate infinite ammo cranium obliterator 5000
>hazejust buy metal skin>victorjust buy healbane>infernusjust buy dispel magicany others?
Imagine how stupid youd have to be to play this game right now>>563251019Movement is too OP so any hero that can hit people no matter what autistic bouncey glitch they've learned makes the enemy crumble.Basically they need to nerf movement by about 60% especially shit like cornerboosting and shiv m2 etc
Why do people like this Celeste type? Shut up and get carried
>>563252440Metal skin is honestly a dogshit counter for Haze. If the game is at the point where she is wiping your team by pressing 4, it means spirit damage has fallen off. Only m1ggers can kill her now while ulting, but you know what's funny? She has 60% bullet evasion for free while ulting. Even your m1ggers can't do shit about her.
>>563252981Haze can also just buy Curse
i hate feeling like i dont deal damage after 15 minutes what character should i play
Mirage has Nature's Prophet global teleport on a 30 second CD btw. 30 seconds. Also gives him a barrier and a bunch of attack speed. It says a lot about how nobody actually knows how to play this game yet that this shit isn't being abused every single game because this man can be literally fucking everywhere
>>563253735the dwifta
How many more counter items did they need to buy?
>>563253735Silver
>>563253598>>563252981I mean what is the point of metal skin? her ult outlasts it and you cant kill her during it (bullet evasion + fury trance spirit resist + lifesteal with vamp burst) Like genuinely there is no counter you just have to beat the enemy with macro or ganks you are never out teamfighting a haze it's the dumbest shit I've ever seen
>>563253515victor players look like that
>>563253741hes boring
real phantom 4 gameplay
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/PATCH WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>563253517Who else is gonna stroke his BIG BLUE EGO huh bub?
>>563253741p much any character can get across the map in 30 seconds with good movement
IT'S UP
>Toxic Bullets: Buildup is now 10% slower>Toxic Bullets: Bleed reduced from 2% to 1.7%>Toxic Bullets: Anti Heal increased from -30% to -35%Shit I hope this didn't kill Drifter.
>>563253997He gets across the map in 3 seconds dude, he can do it every 30 seconds, it doesn't take him 30 seconds to ult that's the fucking CD
- Victor: Bullet damage increased from 12 to 13- Victor: Jumpstart T2 increased from +50 Total HP Regen to +70- Victor: Aura of Suffering now builds up over 8s instead of 6s- Victor: Aura of Suffering T1 slow now also affects dashes- Victor: Aura of Suffering T1 slow reduced from 30% to 25%- Victor: Aura of Suffering Min DPS increased by 10% (affects base damage, AP and spirit scaling)- Victor: Aura of Suffering Max DPS increased by 20% (affects base damage, AP and spirit scaling)- Victor: Shocking Reanimation now applies a heavy diminishing slow immediately when you dievictor bros are we back??? is this enough??
- Bebop: Weapon windup time reduced from 0.5s to 0.3s and fast windup time reduced from 0.1s to 0.05s- Bebop: Sticky Bomb can now be self cast again, but it deals 20% damage to yourself- Bebop: Sticky Bomb radius reduced from 10m to 8m- Bebop: Grapple Arm now deals light melee damage (0.7 scaling)SUICIDE BOMBER IS BACK
>want to play deadlock>its 12amfuck
>Haze: Bullet Dance targeting is no longer a full radius around the hero, but instead is a cone in the direction you are aimingahahahahahahahaha
>>563254110>holy man>monster womanA timeless combo>human man>werewolf womanAlso equally timeless
>Soon return fire will be 25% return damagelol :)))))))))))))
>>563253827Metal skin is actually a fine buy for her, it's not just a delete-Haze-from-the-game purchase like retards here like to pretend it is, like they do with all counter itemization. They also ironically like to pretend that your opponent can't also build around your counter, i.e. merc mag/curse + unstop with a lot of duration
Celeste ate shit LMAO.BUT> - Celeste: Radiant Daggers T3 increased from 7% Fire Rate per Stack to 9%Fuck you Yoshi
>>563254158just play street brawl it's better
i hate Rem niggers so much its unreal
>haze murdered>dynamo barely touchedhuh
>>563254212better change the animation lmaooo
>professor reddit essentially untouched
>>563253214theoretically but unless you're a tank those 70% of bullets and 50% of on-hits are still more than enough to get you, maybe if they also have an infernus but for m1ggas the idea is more dodging or running from themand it all comes back to that damn ult applying on-hits, why don't those items have an instant application and instead require you to hit multiple bullets before they start working and are even affected by falloff? it's their way of balancing because you shoot way more bullets than you use spells so you have more chances to use those effects, haze doesn't aim, haze doesn't recharge, haze has unstoppable and ricochet
>Vyper: Screwjab Dagger no longer takes you out of RMB zoom> Vyper: Screwjab Dagger charge time reduced from 4.5s to 4.0s> Vyper: Sliding uphill now allows for lateral movement> Vyper: Slither slide distance increased from +10% to +15%oh yeah baby, thats what we like to see
>>563254158play a streel brawl game grandpa
>>563253921This game is dead. They have no idea what they want from it. It'll never be more than minmax troonslop.Fucking Battleborn was better than this.
>Golden Goose Egg: Now only gives permanent buffs for actual accrued souls, not counting the initial 400 sellback amount (so it no longer instantly sells for permanent buffs)Freak the fuck out and panic sell egg right nowIt's fucking over
>Doorman: Doorways now reveal on the minimap for enemies when they are within LOS>Doorman: Luggage Cart collision size reduced by 10%>Doorman: Luggage Cart no longer stuns enemies, just immobilizes/movement controls them (this means you can use dispel magic to get off)
this is a surprisingly small patch, haze ult got slapped hard but I'm shocked that kelvin and dynamo got off almost scot free
>>563253556 (me)> - Haze: Bullet Dance no longer grants 60% EvasionWait I was just complaining about this. Fuck Haze players. LMAO. GET SHAT ON
>>563253921I HATE DYNAMOI HATE KELVIN
eat shit haze players, also get fucked celeste abusers
>>563253809>100k damage>6 killsif anything this shows how badly haze is countered and she needs ult buffs
>>563254403HAHAHAHAHA NO MORE FAGGOT DOORMANS SITTING AT MID ALL GAME
>>563254439bullet dance gave evasion.......? lol
>>563254440>>563254439raped
>>563253921>Bebop: Sticky Bomb can now be self cast again, but it deals 20% damage to yourself
M-m-metal skin...
>the rape victims of this patch>Celeste>HazeWe are eating so good.
- Dynamo: Quantum Entanglement cooldown increased from 16s to 19s
>>563254492Her wolftits are NOT and shouldn't be that big
>>563254440so true sis just buy metal skin and it deletes the game from haze's hard drive btw
>grey talon buffed
>>563254492non sample pls
>haze abusers can now just be shot in the back of the head until dead
>>563254114no? if he can't clear debuffs with 2 he's still dogshit
>>563253921ITS REAL
>>563254650>drone meta
>>563254139Knew they would pussy out
>>563254631>>563254653
>>563254490it used to be on t3 but they moved to base because it wasn't overloaded enough
>devs literally making balance changes based on eceleb uploadsabsolute state of valve circa 2026
why did they buff Talon goddammit, he's so annoying to play against and now he'll be even easier to pilot
HAZE IS COMPLETELY DEAD LMFAO HER ULT DOES 50% LESS DAMAGE WITH JUST THE 2 TARGET REMOVAL PLUS EVEN LESS WITH THE FORCED CONE KEKINGAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAZE IS THE NEW VICTOR
Holy shit the cone is tiny hahaha this is what you get for weeks of "j-j-just buy metal skin bro it counters her completely"
>>563254785trash
>Mirage: Fire Scarabs Health Steal per second reduced from 9 to 8>Mirage: Fire Scarabs Health Steal per second spirit scaling reduced from 0.12 to 0.1>Mirage: Djinn's Mark spirit scaling reduced from 0.38 to 0.35
>Golden Goose Egg: Now only gives permanent buffs for actual accrued souls, not counting the initial 400 sellback amount (so it no longer instantly sells for permanent buffs)
>>563254827KEEEEEEEK boosted haze faggots need to actually aim now
this is a dogshit patch
>>563254439>>563254827>Haze: Bullet Dance targeting is no longer a full radius around the hero, but instead is a cone in the direction you are aiming
>>563254114Viktor Slowing Bullets/Slowing Hex + T1 Aura of Suffering then just start ganking the entire mapYay or nay, would be funny
>>563254926>Most played heroes: Haze, CelesteSorry buddy! Time to learn how to actually plat the game.
haze cone actually requires extremely good aim holy FUCK its so over
I actually main Silver, do good as her, and I wanna fuck her. https://files.catbox.moe/i3bq2w.png
Haze players are now required to do 25% of the aiming everyone else does, winrates will never recover
>Golden Goose Egg: Now only gives permanent buffs for actual accrued souls, not counting the initial 400 sellback amount (so it no longer instantly sells for permanent buffs)NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i hate hazefags, they're always african names like JUZDOIT and shit toofuck hazefags
>>563254941at this point dont even level the ult
>>563254941>animation shooting everywhere for 2 years>now a cone because... fucking children putting in feedback crying.
we're buffing gay talon because...?
>Doorman: Luggage Cart no longer stuns enemies, just immobilizes/movement controls them (this means you can use dispel magic to get off)This one hurts the most so doorman either maxes bell or ult now.
>>563254926>haze/celeste playerSorry, it appears that you're boosted.
>dynamo barely touchedHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>563255059>>now a cone because...It wasn't fun to play against and let subhumans like you get free wins. Pick up a real hero.
>>563254987everyone does good as heryou're the guy that posted that webm huh
Doggy style
Another month of Dynamo being in every game with a 56% winrate and you'll like it.
>kelvin gets slap on the wrist>dynamo gets a pat on the ass>no holliday changes>mirage slap on the wrist>bepop gets old ability but cucked for some reason>GT buffs for some reasonidk about the celeste changes, less HP but more spirit scaling
>>563255071>diddy kidnap playstyle neuteredKekaroo doorman is now complete dogshit
They gave warden's ult to haze ahaha
I think graves might be built for _ _ _ _ !
>play with english speakers>win>everyone have fun>next game>play with huemonkeys>lose>constant shit flinging on the chat in their nigger babbling """"language""""I wish region change actually worked
>they buffed sleep daggerHaze is actually a roaming ganker now. I'll go play her now actually now that 4 to win is no longer hte most optimal build.
did celeste get nerfed or does she get a better late with the re scaling?
DROP YOU HAZE BOOSTED ANIMALS YOUR TIME HAS COME>oooooh I have to aim now?! in a shooter?! wallahi I'm finished!
>>563255172umm hes wholesome chungus 100 bro
>>563254248what mental illness is this
>Haze FINALLY nerfed for the first time EVERHave I died and gone to heaven???
the best part of being a Sinclair spammer is that every ult buff is a stealth Sinclair buff
ngl hazes ult being aoe always made it feel awkwardthis helps
>>563253921>Seven and Dynamo completely untouched
>Lady Geist: Bullet damage rescaled from 21.94 + 0.946/boon to 20.7+1.0/boonSo this is a nerf right? Less damage out the gate
>>563255236It's the same thing for me except I get drooling slavmonkeys in EU
>>563254248>>563255289White + Low IQ + Sociopath genes.
>>563255059get fucked haze shitter
haze ultbot is gone but every single other part of her kit got buffs
>>563255289equating self worth to video game performance
>>563254248LD bros... we aren't even his smurf...>>563255323It's a buff, just like venator got one
>>563255297not even AOE, she completely ignored anything that wasn't a hero if there was any anywhere in her ult, she'd then focus troopers and lastly just shoot randomly if nothing was in it
>>563255191Her abilities are all weaker early which makes her fairer, she's still an insanely privileged, ignorant hero but she doesn't get as much free damage in lane anymore and less HP means you can punish her more meaningfully.
>>563255319but Dynamo got a nerf though
honestly not even as a haze player this cone thing is pretty lame they just killed her identity
>the tiniest of venator buffsThank you Yoshi
So did they forget to include compensation buffs for Doorman? What is he supposed to do now?
I have never had a good gay talon on my team ever
>dynamo and kelvin untouched>tiny little bandaid for Holliday, not even any number changesfuck yoshi
I fucking hate haze and I’m glad she got nerfs but the cone thing feels kinda stupid and against the spirit of her ult. they should’ve just reduced the damage by a ton, increased the radius and evasionMake it a team fight survival move that does a lot of damage total because it can hit everyone in the radius, not a 1v1 win button.
>1 hour long game lostim so sad.
>>563255535Be a throw pick like holliday
>>563255535Apologise to your team for picking Doorman and abandon once the enemy buys dispel magic.
>>563255154>everyone does good as herlol
- Holliday: Various behavior and feel improvements to her gundid they forget to ship it? literally no difference
>>563254518Unstable concoction at home:
>>563255520More nerfs than buffs
>>563255750My guess was that they just toyed with the recoil feature
>>563255586I'd have been fine with removing the evasion or preventing her from using items during itBut at this point I'm seething every single match I see her so good riddance
Why didnt Valve give her boobs
>>563255708yea lol she's literally the freest hero before e3
>>563255323It's an overall nerf, but a small one
>>563255323>>563255403She's not gaining damage out of this until 25.6k souls but it's a pretty small nerf If your game goes all the way to max lvl (level 32, 50k souls) your base bullet damage is now 52.7 instead of 52.21I would honestly just call it a nothingburger
Soooo uhhhh Silence Wave being jn thr 3200 category instead of the 6400 was a coding mistake and valve will put it where it belongs right uhhhhh there's no reason why everyone should have access to a "fuck you I win instantly" item right?
>>563253921So Celeste is useless now?
>>563255827that's what i was expecting but the recoil is the exact same as before. it goes to the left the same amount, the view/camera kick speed is the same, it's affected by firerate the same as before (you have much less recoil after around +40% firerate)
>>563255846it would have made her too powerfulwinrate is stored in the tits
>>563255846because female wolves don't have giant tits like the furry porn you jack off to retard
deadlock needs a kunkka hero
>That dynamo nerfKill all supportfags
>Toxic Bullets buffed>Armor Piercing Rounds buffed>Paradox walls slightly biggeramazing10/10W patchthat right there is why you're the besthot take but i think the cone is kind of a shadow buff for Hazeyou can deliberately keep people out of the cone to focus all your damage on one person or avoid someone (((protected))) with... LE METAL SKIN
>>563256102I like that hero idea from one of the anons here about a journalist, she takes "snapshots" of where you are and returns you to that spot.
>>563256029The game is only in Alpha maybe they will fix it?
im testing victor right now ill report how it goes fellow victards
>>563256089You're right they have 8 small tits instead, which Valve should give to Silver
>Holliday: Various behavior and feel improvements to her gunwhat does this mean
Yoshi has no idea what he is doing
>>563256089Female wolves don't walk on two legs nor occasionally transform into brunette human women either faggot
I made it out of the tutorial
didnt you used to be able to manually detonate talon ult? it's impossible to hit people now cause they just bounce in the air with movement exploits
>>563255846She should
Why the fuck does Yoshi hate Venator so much?
>>563256261y-yeehaw
>>563255880>>563255956I main Geist and honestly her gun damage out the gate is pretty obscene. A big target will be out of position and I can just click on them and do 150 damage before they get to cover But it’s not like it’s better than the other “gun heroes” and she only has 9 bullets I get why they did this but it’s gonna make shooting those first few waves a pain in the ass.I was weening myself off monster rounds but looks like it’s a first item for her permanently
>>563256282>it's impossible to hit people nowYour greater expansion? The explosion radius is extremely generous
>Toxic Bullets nerfedThis is good, but...>Inhibitor untouched>Silencer untouchedM1 is still going to be the meta
>>563256238I'm of the opinion that her tits only need minor buffsA little bit of fat on the chest, not a lot. They'd still end up being pretty big, speaking relatively in consideration to her size
>>563256337He barely touches Ven, these trap changes just make it weaker early game but no one builds for trap anyway
>>563256282you still can
>>563255879freest win when playing against her lol
>>563256337Traps getting nerfed is nothing, you can still rape people with the shotgun wall heavy melee combo. I'm surprised they didnt nerf that
victor status?
>>563256490nah not with my teammates that overextend
>doorman kidnap nerfed>no compensation buffsSo what is this character supposed to do now?
>silence wave nerfedhow do i pop spellbreaker now?
>>563256472oh shit youre right>>563256359nah it's genuinely impossible to hit people on ziplines because they can hop up down left or right I needed to air burst direct hits in the air too hard
>silence wave went from 30 second cool down to 42 Will it still be compy?
>>563256631IT TAKES MORE THAN THAT TO KILL ME
lol anytime doorman does anything they explode himshit sucks man. most interactive CC in the game and shitters still complain.
>>563256749it will always be fantastic with coordination
Why did Kelvin and Dynamo not get nerfed
>>563256702The same thing as before, but slightly worseDeal with it DORKman
>>563253921sisters our silver buffs?!!
>>563256824reddit heroes
>>563255586the sleep dagger and smoke bomb don't match at all with the supposedly teamfight ult, maybe they wanted her to have an autoaim fuck you button for when she gets close but when paired with the items she gets way overtunedto me that thing should just do generic spirit or gun damage instead of actually shooting and applying on-hits and everyone's happy, would still kill you most likely you die in 2 seconds from a 12 sec ult
>>563256337it's a buff idiot
>bloom removed from holliday's gunis she broken now?
>>563256851It's over... again....
>it takes 5 shots instead of 4 for drifter to proc toxic>1.7 bleed damageThat sucks. Most 3200 gun items suck on Drifter too so I have to cope with this.
>>563256970>bloom removedanon...
>>563256926Yeah but it also filled a weakness in her 1v1 kit (an AoE)I don’t see why it can’t just work like reaper’s ult in overwatch. He's also a stealthy ambush hero in ways
>>563257028Hybrid/Spirit drifter might be the better option now rather than just full gun.
>>563256970are u retardedthis game doesn't have bloom except vyper and doorman 1
>>563256193Heroes that abused toxic will still abuse it, and heroes that could make use of it won't because it's miserable to proc it.
>>563257120bro your venator?
>>563256773>and shitters still complain.My friend hardcore rages if there's an enemy Doorman because he literally mentally cannot handle being cart > doored like he literally starts screaming about how BULLSHIT this is and how he CAN'T DO SHIT and how Doorman is a FUCKING STUPID FAGGOT CHARACTERDoormen, this is what's on the receiving end of your epic TikTok clip don't stop doing it lol it's funny
I'm having a bug where Seven's 2 crashes the game
>>563257170Is it still considered bloom if it's a set pattern and not random?
Intentionally stalling bot matches so you can go infinite soul builds is really fun.
>>563257120>this game doesn't have this mechanic>actually these heroes doI think you're the retard here
How does this Recharging Rush change effect Lash?
what character do you like but cant play at allfor me it's grey talon I'm too aggressive and impatient and die like a retard
>Silence Wave gutted>Shitpick Doorman nerfedDamn
So once again, I am running graves and going zero kills all match, my team is shit and I am shit too. WHY THE FUCK CANT I FUCKING PLAY THIS? I have made people leave the game for being whiny and flaming but I am pissed off. I wanna be good, NOW! I even had some girl on voice tell me I suck for abandoning lane, every single fucking lane partner I get IS A FUCKING RETARD. Why even bother playing this shit? AS I SAID BEFORE, i like graves and victor but thats it, i like the idea of this game more than the game. I suck at every single multiplayer what should I do then? Real answers or else...
>>563257170doesn't have bloom>>563257286no
>>563257441concession accepted
>>563257441>doorman bell is a herowho's calling who a retard again>>563257543this tbqhwyf
>mfw cart nerf means I can't play melee Doorman anymoreHe wasn't even that good he was just really funny. This is probably the first nerf I really am a bit irked by
if you fags are gonna jerk each other off over a technicality you could at least post silver so i can jerk too while you're doing it
You think you're winning?
Sex with Paradox
Doorman has been buried in a shallow grave next to Holliday
>>563253921- Paradox: Bullet damage increased from 6.42 + 0.242/boon to 6.8 + 0.26/boonIs her gun not pathetic anymore? Can I build buffed titanic mag
>>563257701ok
Another game with Silver on the enemy teamAnother free win
>>563257641Bell belongs to the hero Doorman, sorry that you needed someone to explain that connection to you
>>563257515>silence wave>suppressor>spirit shieldingall shit choices on Graves for the most part, just get toxic bullets and split shot and there's your damage.
>>563257878BASED
>>563257897>i m-meantlollllllllllll
So what are the actual game changers besides the celeste, silence wave, and haze nerfs?
>>563253921I'm just dropping the game until Apollo gets thrown into a woodchipper. I'm sick and tired of seeing that red nigger when I load in and knowing the only counter play to him is a gas leak blowing up his house before the game ends. I be happier if his ult was "win the game instantly" so i at least wouldn't have to sit though a 50 minute game we lost in the first 8.>buy le hecking slowing hex!Cool every 40 seconds or whatever I can make him less obnoxious for 3 seconds.
>>563257846her gun is still not close to her 2024 state, but should be okay to actually shoot her gun sometimes now instead of just being an echo bomb bot
>>563255535It's really funny since I'm fairly sure he's worse now than he was back in December before the buffs and is even worse now against better players since he's just got his ult now
>>563257931>backtracking after exposing his lack of reading comprehensionAnon..
>>563258015KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO
>>563258070Oh it's you, of course it is
>>563255535Be a meme pick for shitters who smurf in seeker.
haze mains are literally on suicide watch having a meltdown on twitter, this is the best patch ever
>>563257932Doorman has become this game's Spy, still OK against shitter retards, laughable retard garbage against anyone with an IQ above room tempature
>>563257932Heroes that only built toxic sometimes probably won't as much due to the buildup nerf. Doorman is dead again.It's mostly just a Haze and Silence Wave hotfix patch
>>563258126Which poopdickschizo is this?
>>563257090that's the thing, if you remove the 4 out of a decent haze she's still an above average hero at the very least, her gun is really good, she can sleep and melee in laneheroes shouldn't do everything, victor was unbearable exactly because he was top damage and top healing every game, they shouldn't do everything specially with other m1s like vyper in the game that don't have aoe and can't even damage you in her ult without items while haze had evade autoaim fire rate fixation and on-hits
>>563253921YES HAHAHA YES EAT SHIT CELESTE FAGGOTS
>>563258070>KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOHoly cringe
yeah doorman might be the worst character in the game now
>>563258163The schizo who spammed 1234eigners so much that he got previously banned for it
>>563258209people still say kekaroo in 2026?
>>563258015i main door nerd stop acting retardedthis game doesn't have bloom
>>563258141I am ambivalent to this patch, celeste/haze getting gutted is peak but dynamo/kelvin/apollo being untouched is kind of gay.>b-but dynamo tp cd increasedWHO CARE
Haze onetricks have reportedly committed mass suicide, their corpses are being buried next to the graves of the Victor onetricks
>>563258274That faggot goes "KKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKK"
>>563255535You're not supposed to play him right now, it's like Holliday.Wait for the rework.
>>563258230He had to take Bebop's throne eventually
>>563258372Victor onetricks just respawned
>>563258396Yes that's him, looks like he's returned again
>gunfaggots trying to shift the blame for the game's current state towards kelvin and dynamoembarrassing
>>563258450meds
They should create a melee meta.
>>563258431YOU CANT KILL ME
>>563258450spirit ultbots wth infinite util are bad for the game
>>563258450Dynamo literally determines which team wins or which doesnt
>>563258546MY TURN
>more eggs buffsWhy is Yoshit obsessed with making this item meta?
>>563258230he got nerfed compadre
>>563257454you were just limit testing
>when the assigment says "buff Holiday" but you can't come up with anything
>>563258627>more egg buffs>removing the instant sell for buffs which was your best source of cdr&raw gun/spirit damage lategamehahah yeah
Dynamo and Kelvin were NOT nerfed!!!
>>563255384Not even close enough to compensate not having an ult.
>>563258769duelist hazes pre march patch never pressed ult button anyways
>>563258751Doubling her bullet velocity is pretty significant
>Doorman gutted>Haze murdered>Celeste knackered>Dynamo? eh add a small cooldown to his two good enough :Dthese devs are on Vietnamese level cocaine
One last game before bed hahaha what could go wrong!
dynamo heckin narwhal chungus
I'm not shitposting when I say I have no fucking idea what Doorman is actually supposed to do at this point. Your gun sucks and you're ass if you go full yellow since it effects your door range and speaking of doors, like you can't even make ambush plays against non retards with your team now since enemies can just see your fucking doors if you're working for a flank, they can dispel your cart and it doesn't even stun anymore, making melee doorman worthless, an ult build gimmick only works against fresh install 2 stam characters and is pointless because it's not like they were going to contribute to the teamfight much anyway and if you're unstoppable, who fucking cares, you're doing no damage, and speaking of damage, your bells don't do shit for damage endgame so your gameplan now is to just leave them on the ground like a faggot and hope they slow people enough that your actually functional characters are able to secure kills, I guess? The change is really fucking baffling to me since even when he was actually strong back in, what, February thereabouts? He only got picked for the tourny scene once and ate so much fucking shit he never was again. This is really feeling like a case of kicking a sick dog considering cunts like Paige and retards like Dynamo are just more effective supports.
Sex with Dynamo
Should I still buy silence wave on Yamato?
>haven't played since the 4-lane map>friend finally convinces me to hop back in>no idea what to do with Ivy anymoreSlow doesn't feel impactful. Stun exists I guess. Heals feel worse. Her gun feels anemic. What do? Am I just stupid?
>>563258939>What do? Am I just stupid?Yes
>>563258892>>563257653The cart still stuns when you hit them into a wall. It just doesn't stun them while they're being dragged. So they can I-frame, dispel or whatever to escape.
>>563258892You're not supposed to play him.
>gunbad>bellbad>doorworse>cartbad>ult only good vs idiotsI get to help teammates escape I guess?Marking the doors on the map for enemy players feels so cruel.
>>563258939Shove your nose up your best m1gger's ass and help them kill everybody. If you don't have one uhhh idk lol sorry you got tard drafted
>time wall slightly bigger
YOU ALREADY KNOW
>>563258939You queue up with a melee character, put duration and echo shard on your butt, and stun people for your melee compatriot
>>563259140>>gunbad>he doesn't know
Is the point of bombing yourself to bomb self, hook them into you so they arrive just as it explodes?
>>563258892l2p he's amazing even without stun
>>563259140>Marking the doors on the map for enemy players feels so cruel.Blame shitters complaining about Doorman, they cannot handle CC: the hero so he must be gutted and raped and killed
>paige kelvin dynamo untouched>gut doorman instead>but he's so ANNOYINGGGas if those 3 arent 10x more annoying AND more frequent
>>563259264It's so the ability actually does something once the enemy team has 30 ways to ignore or iframe it.
>>563259264the point is they are creatively bankrupt, and also have no idea why bepop is bad or mirage is good
>weakest part of his kit>gets nerfedDevs huffing glue, what is the point of this? This and the gutshot nerf, is someone mad they cant 1v1 their main in a tiny room with the close quarters character?
>>563259246Is gun good? It hasn't felt good. The last gun change letting it penetrate just felt like it was for detonating bells easier.
>>563259310And other things retards say on the regular
>>5632593981v1 me any hero mirror you won't>m-muh macrolol
>>563259368its a nothing burger, meant to fill the patch notes so people dont just focus on the fact that they didnt nerf dynamo or kelvin
>>563258141this patch will just expose all the boosted ult bot faggots
>>563259376maybe
>>563259438>actually using 1v1 me bro without ironylol
VICTOR IS BACK BABY
>>563259478this will not be a nerf in the longrun, pickrate will go down as no-aim retards give her up but the winrate will stay or rise imo
>new patch>dont play>complain anyways
>>563259593>being afraid of a 1v1 against someone you said sucksxd i win gg just like id cream you gg
>>563259641if anything this will be another victor situation where they overnerf then in subsequent patches buff it back
>>563259593>rivalsfag acting smug in deadlock threadz0zzle
>>563258230Holliday is way worse
>>563259035Problem is most people WILL just get out as they are being carted so you won't get the wall stun off, it's not like dispel is a rare item or anything.
Doorman’s kit was literally designed to be annoying yet they nerf him for being annoyingI don’t play doorman but the kidnapping cart and doorstuff made him one of the more unique adversaries you could face.
>>563259687I disagree, she was strong before ultbot changes and everything just got buffed. the only change is her ult isnt a late game press 4 win button anymore but its not like haze cant just look at 1 person and then another now
>>563259641>Easy character is made less easy>"Win rate won't change for her."That's not how this works.
>>563259802shitters cannot handle him being annoying
>>563259802Blame retards born without brain cells
eight minute queue time...The haze players...won
>>563252062Rem would kill her for saying that...
>>563259987
>>563257093I'm thinking sneaking in Opening Rounds before Toxic Bullets. >10 spirit power for your rend>passive works with your rend>your rend is your best opener anywayI just finished a game with him. Toxic Bullets doesn't give him the same giga powerspike it used to, but it's still his best 3200 gun item. I used to be able to just save up for Toxic Bullets and start killing, but I think there's a need to invest in other items before it now. Good for him too since he can start playing earlier instead of waiting for the giga powerspike.
>This fucking patchYoshi is literally wiping his dick with your mouth. You're a literal cuck if you play this game still
>>563259983Haze slavs make up 30% of the player base and they’re all busy crying in discord and on the forum
>>563260168I like all of the changes in this patch though.The only thing it doesn't have is graves nerfs.
>>563259142>>563259167>rat Ivy deadWell that's sad, but I guess I'll just keep trying.
>>563260168I can't hear you, I only play Seven
holy christ mo and krill is fucking miserable to play in lane
>>563260168He basically didn’t touch Venator so I’m chillin
Bebop is the only robot in the game. he's too out of place and his Neon Prime model needs to be removed.how would (You) redesign him?
>>563260284>I like all of the changes in this patch though.you play Kelvin and Dynamo?
>>563260379We have you now.
Actually had a warden teammate in brool throw a hissy fit and just wait in the base all game. These people are sub human holy shit.
>>563259802I genuinely don't understadn what i'm even be supposed to be doing as Doorman now. His bells do mediocre damage compared to every other support nuke like Rem pillow or Dynamo stomp. His gun is shit. Alright, since he's not supposed to deal damage, i'll just kidnap people, except can't do that either. So i'll idk, run urn with my door. Can't do that either. What are you supposed to do as Doorman then? Just go full ultbot mode?
>>563257962The trick to apollo is just waiting out his early game spikes, if you manage to make it to 25 minutes without him having 10+ kills you have won the game. Spirit resilience + spell breaker = Apollo no longer a hero.
>Titanic Mag buffed>Bullet damage increased on McGOh yeah it's time to play Gun McGinnis.
>>563260568just play a different character until yoshi grows a brain.. haha so forever
>>563260443Oh yeah I guess Kelvin and Dynamo nerfs were needed too.Especially to Dynamo's fuck ass stomp.I think the patch was still good.
>>563258839Duelist haze was dead pre march outside of echo shard meme.
>Viktor can apply slowing bullets in 5 shotsYeah. T1 Aura + slowing bullets is going to be real fucking funny.
>>563260568Doors should be used by teams more. It’s one of the best escape tools and best mobility tools.
>>563260568his bells do absolutely retarded damage wtf are you talking about? they are like the best spirit nuke spell in the game and you can sit on the other side of base destroying everyone in the pit with unavoidable mega damage
Hazebros... which m1gger do I play now...
>>563260736I 100% agree with this, and i think Yoshi knows that if people start using doors for full team rotates he might become extremely broken, but at the same time that's not happening in pubs. Believe me, you have to scream at people to take a door to save their lives if they're being chased, getting your team to actually go into your doors is just not a realistic thing that will happen in any lobby under Eternus, and the character has to function for every other lobby because that's like 99% of the playerbase
>>563260802This anon posted from the past.
>>563260813drifter
>>563260813Victor
>>563260909the doorman propaganda has arrived
>>563260951dude im so retarded i blurred out the doorman lmao
>>563260813Rem
my vindicta got walker carted ONCE 8 minutes in and immediately quit the gamenice rigged queue
>>563260813I'd say Venator but I don't want you mouthbreathers flocking to him
You're supposed to build splitpush gun Doorman if you were not awareHis spirit build is shit
>>563260802His bells deal 50 base explosion damage with a 1.4x scaling. The actual bell hitbox deals a further 40+ 0.7x damage, and you're realistically only hitting a single person with that unless you cart + vortex combo people into it. Comparatively Dynamo deals 115 + 1.8x on his stomp, which also shreds 20% armor and has a fuckhuge range. Rem deals 75 + 1.6x with pilow.
ano..... gravesu no nafus ga doko desu ka?
Your next silver, ladies and gentlemen.
VCITOR AURA DEALS DAMAGE AGAINHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>563260951>>563261058kek
>>563261058but yeah i be fragging out in my doorman games and i see others shitting out damage as well. i can't think of a better spammable spirit damage move in the game, grey talon arrows?
>>563252245>>563252327Calm down Mina!
>>563261246>rodentfucking retard, you drew a fox tail right there
>>563261246wow... she's shaped exactly like me x_x
2 good changes, and a bunch of dogshit tacked on. thanks yoshi
>>563260813kelvin
>>563260568Ultbot doesn't work if they're playing like half the cast because of how mobile they can be regardless
Yeah I guess hollidays gun feels and looks better
>>563259802blame """eternus""" content creators/streamers
>>563261426it feels like they lowkey buffed her velocity
It's simple get rid of impact damage put that damage onto his bell, reduce spirit scaling.
>>563261237>and you're realistically only hitting a single person with thatmega cap, they are gigantic, they cover the entire pit and entire lanes. dynamo stomp is very avoidable and i don't think he gets as many charges right? doorman can sit on the other side of the map exploding your entire team with very hard to dodge bells
>>563261246You furniggers ERP in these threads enough already>>563261343Everything is a canine to dogfuckers
>Haze: Bullet Dance no longer grants 60% Evasiondoes thta mean I can actually buy return fire against her?
>>563261058>dude I'm so retardedWe know, you're actually pretending lategame Doorman does things
>doorman players want bell changes>when it functions perfectly as isPlease read your fucking abilities you youtube slopping retards
>>563261564they buffed it too
>>563261246What part of this is a rodent
>>563261530The bells don't cover "entire pits and lanes", the explosion hitboxes do. And those deal just ok damage. Do you even know how the ability works? Half the damage is tied up into the actual bell hitbox hitting your character
>>563261572guys i think this guy might be downplaying
>get haze on enemy team>alright free wi->I have silver on my team>loseHaze is still stronger than silver despite the nerfs.
Cute & Canon!
>>563261246make her quadruped and I'm in
>>563261707stronger than most characters
>>563261669>the bells don't cover the entire lane, the bell exploding covers the entire lanethe explosions also do a ton of a damage cease the cap immediately
kelvin is such a fucking nigger hero
>>563261241上達するクソ外国人
>>563261814Haze is still stronger than most characters?
HAZE IS CUMMING
>>563261241>>563261901
>>563261615
hazetards can't win anymore
>>563261894if you're going to lose, at least you lost to the best, yes?
>>563261615I want to know what the character is supposed to do. Am i a pickoff hero? Surely not because i don't real enough damage to 1v1 practically anyone and get away with it. I also can't kidnap a lot of people anymore. I also don't have a teamfight-winning ult like Dynamo, Rem. I don't have paige's CC or shields. What does Doorman even do now? I guess you're just supposed to play as bellman and wish you were playing a better character I mean for fucks sake i made this post >>563252408 before today's changes
>>563261942ONLY THE CUNNY WILL SURVIVE
>>563262034Build gun and push
Haze is missing
So what would Graves smell like?
>>563261909yes
>>563261486They doubled the old value, it's almost as high as Venator's now
>>563262159salty bags of bones
>>563262159patchouli and weed
>>563262159White girl smell
laugh at hazekeks
>>563262308Now put 6 heroes there
>>563262308>its realfinally this game is good
>>563262345>6 heroes have to be grouped like every other ultimate in the game to wipe instead of just breathing the same airbest change I could ask for, fuck braindead haze players
Whenever a haze complains just tell them to buy greater expansion(payback for just buy metal skin bro)
I feel so bad for playing Holliday early to mid she's fine late game you literally dont do anything when everything has 9000 health
>>563260813Now that Haze's ult got gutted. Victor is the last 50 minutes farmslop win condition hero, right?
>>563258627You're surprised a guy who models his online persona off Yoshi the dinosaur is obsessed with eggs?
>>563262485buy scourge + decay
>>563262486No, the Victor buffs did nothing. He's still trash.
so they nerfed celeste's early game a bunch, how good are the scaling incrases?>>563262308does this have a fixed turn radius
>>563262485If you dont have like 20% crit gun damage every match, just stop or go back practicing
>>563262308Kinda stupid dumbass for reall honestly
>>563262308i don't even play haze and wtf is this shit???
>>563262486Seven still exists
>>563262308This is now officially the whittiest ult in the game lmao
>>563262563Sure, but that's still his wincon. He doesn't do anything without items or scaling.
>die>lanes immediately get pushed up our patron's asstell yoshi to boost lane jannies up the ranks so I can leave pisslow please
>>563262584>thinking the headshots mean anything for holidaylol
>>563262159Strawberry flavored vape
>>563262740Idk man 500 dmg from 1 skillful click every like 6s is way more insane than mirage
>>563262660I wonder what Mirage is doing up there
>>563255750kek they did, got another patch and now there's no leftwards recoil or spread at all, just the usual vertical kick
>>563262638>Victor>winAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Holy fuck they actually killed haze. Thank fucking god.
>>563262486>Seven is the last 50 minutes farmslop win condition heroFTFY
INFERNUS IS STILL KANG OF CARRIES
>>563262308Okay ignore your hatred for haze for a sec this is just so shit its completely ruining the character and it doesnt even make sense bullet dance she's dancing and spinning how the fuck is it only hitting in front of her? This should be quickly reverted and I dont play Haze I played her like twice when the game came out but I dont want the characters to be drastically changed and they just dont make sense anymore
>>563259491Didn't an anon before ask for a character that benefits from express shot as much as silver? Here it is I guess.
>>563262910yeah idk this change is a huge red flag, what the fuck is going on with the balance team that they let this shit through?
>>563262910She should have a different ult entirelyNothing about a covert stealth dream assassin should be doing flippy dippy bullet backflips
>>56326279320 second cd1.1 scaling. with boundless its 160 damageits a way to poke in lane then becomes a non ability for the rest of the game. holiday is a lasso bot
>>563262998Shiv and Haze should swap ults desu
>>563262159Rem has a voiceline where he says she smells like wet dirt
How do i switch to europe
>>563262793>he just ignores the falloff and the fact that enemies past mid game will have 9 billion hp and will be doing 10x your damage without needing to even look in your directionwho the fuck wants to downplay Holliday? Silver fags?
Victor is skill kinda bad...Maybe not the worst character in the game anymore, but not great by any means...
>Infernus untouched>Graves untouched>Dynamo slap on the wristlol?
>>563262910Why are you acting like they can't change the ult name or animation down the line?
>>563263212Works fine on my pc
>>563263157vpn to europe then reopen the game
>>563263225And why are you acting like they will lmao
>>563262910I honestly agree. It looks silly.
Does Silver just have no impact in every game? What is she even supposed to do in an aoe nuke teamfight?
>>563263317OH GOD NOT AGAI- AWOOOOOOOOOOOO- *jumps on zipline*
>>563263282Because it's a fucking invite only alpha?Viscous fucking looks like THIS still.
>>563263317sneak around and let your tank eat the nukes and ults until you get wolf mode. also grab a spirit shield
>>563263317She does nothing. Literally every other hero has higher impact than her.
How long we got until people start crying about getting slythered on bros??? god I hope vyper slide stays just outside the grasp of the average m1ggers so she stays godly
doorman changes have done absolutely nothing, every mouthbreathing doorman retard still rushes vortex web and throws people under the walker on cooldown and there's nothing you can do about it
>>563263317shes a burst characteryou burst people>teamfightsa waste of your time desu senpaiplay like drifter and run down a sidelane. if they send one against you, you can easily kill them. if you send two, awoo and leap away, you just made an easy team fight for your team. if they send no one, push all the way to their base
>>563263483i 1v6'd in the midboss pit with wolf mode the other day, stole 2 of their rejuvs and lived and we won the game. im phantom
>>563263506You're probably safe, her winrates only good at high ranks and even there her pickrate is extremely low.
>>563263506No one cares about vyper till she is hitting your walker
>Wake up>More doorman giga nerfs>Somehow dynamo/kelvin/Infernus/seven are untouchedanother day of being the most oppressed minority.
I AM REBORN
>>563263562nigga you can now dispel the cart itself so it can't kidnap you kek. and dispel magic was already an item everyone bought anyway.
the queue times got worse what the actual fuck is it because everyone is trying Victor right now?
>>563263648oooooh woe is me it is so tough having two of the best cc moves in the game, one of the best movement tools in the game and mega damage from any range ooooooh i am but a lowly doorman
>>563263317>Does Silver just have no impact in every game?She has impact as a space creator and as my lawfully wedded wife>What is she even supposed to do in an aoe nuke teamfight?Sneak around and burst some bitch down in the backline, or not be there in the first place
>>563252324getting abducted and raped will do that to you
>>563263212im having a great time with him atmt. oracle 5
>>563263317She's a hard apollo/lash. You wreck early and mid game but you're no carry.You're lucky to have not encountered a roamer silver that's actually good because she'll kick jump off of you into a wall, bola + silence wave, then slamfire into your forehead before raping you in with wolf form bite and then jumping away all in 20 seconds.Clearly people need to stop pretending werewolf form is for 1v6ing.
>haze ult now just a glorified split shotOh fuck off.
>>563263861Must be rough being russian.
plan b cursed applehow to cheat a dna testhow to dodge child support
>>563263992pocket...
>>563263573>if they send one against youNot if it's a character like Dynamo
>>563263992Holiday....
>>563263282It's an alpha test, are we just ignoring how many other reworks they've just randomly dropped in previous patches?
>>563263992silver sex gif
>>563263992billy...
>>563261894THE STREETS OF OSAKAS :D
>>563264042unless dynamo is willing to refresher you, you don't careif they send a better duelist like drifter or mirage maybe that's a problem but shit happens
Graves ult should not be revealed on the minimapIt should be a further punishment for not managing waves.No reason for it other than to have fags go>LOOK LOOK THE NO MOVEMENT ABILITY 2 STAMINA CHARACTER THAT HAS NO HEALTH AND A GUN WITH MAX 20 METER RANGE IS RATTING OUR WALKER WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO BROOL EVERYONE RUSH HER NOW
why did they gut doorman what the fuck
>>563263920>>563263317Yeah I've never bought in the silver is trash nonsense because I've been touched inappropriately by some silvers before but when I play her I'm too much of a bitch to try it because I fuck up and just end up feeding.
>>563264174Kelvin has one of THE longest voice lines of him muttering about himself being dead or not and its the ONLY voiceline i would politely ask him to shut up
Is this the worst the game has ever been
>>563263317Don't worry about it. Silver mains are just naturally useless people, you wouldn't do any better on any other hero.
google.comaskjeeveshow to kill a god
>>563264276shes a full commitment burst character. if either your aim is parkinsons tier and you miss all your slamfire shots, or you make bad calls and commit into bad moments, then she does absolutely nothinga good silver runs the game for the first 30 minutes before getting benched, a bad silver never joins the game in the first place
>>563264436.
>>563255289never got a praise from his dad
Some of you faggots should just genuinely fucking uninstall with how whiny and faggy you guys are with patches.
>>563264575t.dynamo abuser
>>563264257Shitters and retards that overhype him>Bro if you hit the bell on them when they have no spirit resist you can do like half the damage of an AFK Dynamo bro it's insaneeee bro
>>563264257Yoshi been kidnapped one too many times
The lash is fun but I still don't understand how people shitstomp early lane
>>563264575t. Shivgawds
Amazing patch Yoshi, only good chances were Celeste nerfsNow reddit robot will reach 70% WR and geist 60%
>>563264793>Haze made more anti-retard>Grey Talon slowly creeping back in>Gun Ivy and Mcginnis also slowly creeping back in thanks to titanic mag getting more ammo back>Bebop also making his way back inOverall I like this patch, good work yoshi. I'm sure all the new players getting closer to giga rape won't like it though.
>>563264631>Haze ult nerfed>Celeste nerfed>Toxic rounds nerfed.>Silence wave nerfed.All of these were rightful nerfs that had people constantly bitching about them yet still faggots bitch and moan because what? Dynamo and Kelvin didn't get nerfed yet? Doorman fags got kicked in the nuts again? Yeah he got probably unrightfully nerfed but after the downplaying from doorman fags during pollpotman the bell slinger genocide they deserve it.
C&C!
>>563265085t. dynamo/kelvin abuser
>>563265085Even during the buffed bells period doorman's highest wr was 51%, doorman just makes people seethe so there's always a knee-jerk reaction to him whenever he's not a throw pick.
>>563265139I play The Lash™ nigger.
>can actually hit people with holiday thank you yoshi
>>563265169I don't care if it was 39%. Doorman was hitler in lane with bells.
>>563265085Victor also got fixed so thats a plus
>>563265079Literally nothing was wrong with haze BUILD METAL SKIN YOU FUCKING RETARDShe had 52% WR in eternus while dynamo is comfy 60%
Bebop self-bomb triggers shit like spirit burn but also lifesteal on yourself, good job yoshit
>>563265085I'm asking this with sincerity: has Doorman ever approached the gay and bullshit winrates of characters like prime victor even at his best? I don't think he has even when bells were really fucking strong earlier in the year/gunbuild back in like October, not to mention he only saw higher tier play as a urn runner (which got gutted) and then one try on a lark a few weeks back in nightreign (Refresher Pocket IIRC raped him and his team). You can call it downplaying but he just legit has never been more than an annoyance to me in the same way Spy in TF2 is. He's a skillcheck character and that's about it. It's annoying getting sent to hotel or kidnapped but most characters have some button that will make the average player say 'oh you nigger', it's not an exclusive thing for Doorman
>>563264793The geist changes are a moderate nerf in the first 15 minutes and a pathetically small buff past then, if you think that's gonna translate to an almost 10%WR jump you're deranged.
We should put Rem's helpers in charge of the next patch
>>563265286There is still nothing wrong with haze, its just now she has a cone instead of a retard-safe sphere for a ult. Along with what appears to be more early game power.
THAT'S IT Yoshi, we've had enough of your shit, we're now unleashing the secret chinese doorman builds until morale improves and nerfs reverted.
>deadlock shitcord>haze 1 tricks crying about the end of the world>deadlock general>haze 1 tricks crying about the end of the worldyeah, I'm thinking yoshiGAWD deserved that Hawaii trip
>>563265418we should put rem's helpers on my dick while rem humps my mouth
How's victor now op again?
>>563265394Geist is already unkillable hero that requires atleast 3 people to kill (one of them will die). Why the fuck wasnt she nerfed
>dagger>slow hex>ult>haze 100 to 0 you and you can't do shit about itI mean, I'll take it over my entire team wiping because she pressed one button.
OUOUOUOUOUOOUUOUOUOUUOU I GOT SOMETHING ON ME MATE
Hazefags are just going to move on to infernus and Mirage
>>563265418>Rem: Buffed>Seven: Nerfed>Geist's Breasts: Visibly bigger
>>563265531Billy...
>>563265334>Spirit burnNope.>Life stealYes.
>This patch is gonna be considered good because Haze got hard nerfed despite other hitler heroes getting slaps on the wristKnew it
>>563265517hoooooooly based
>>563265626They're both dishonest but not as dishonest as being able to press 4 and win an entire teamfight
>>5632656292/3 changes being good is better than the average Yoshi patch, good job Rem, now do the same thing with Silver's
>>563265740Silver would get nerfed since she didn't let him use her jacket
give me a doll woman valveI don't really understand what Sinclair's redesign will be like, will it just be a pair of mannequins?
>>563259140i hardly care about the changes outside of the new marking of doors on the map. genuinely cruel and retarded.
Holy fuck vyper is fun
Haze is an actual roaming assassin now. This is not even a nerf, it's just a gameplay change. Haze is ACTUALLY FUN to play now. Very important.
>>563265545I dunno what to tell you man she just doesn't win that much.
>>563265759>an even flatter SilverIt's so fucking over
>>563265334>>563265650>lifesteal becomes defacto spirit resistance as you steal your own life off yourselfnovel, actually
>>563265418THEY DO LOTS OF THINGS!
Is valve gonna ban the obvious parry and aimbotters abusing haze yet
>>563265826Spirit build is draghging her downShes supposed to be played as succ gun brooler
is toxic still autobuy?
>two guys are trying to kill me for like 4 minutes as victor jump starting dodging ult went off >celeste and paige just...walk away when they could've helped 2 minutes agonope not playing anymore going to do jungles and boxes for like 12 minutes then
>>563265973Its antiheal for m1ggers, so they were gonna get it one way or another.
>>563265759>Silver loses her clothes when she goes wolf>Rem can pick them up off the ground with a heavy melee
infernus is getting gutted nextthey buffed him eight times in a row for absolutely no reason and the toxic bullets nerf isnt going to be enough to keep him under control
>>563265973>-1.2% max hp damage in exchange for 5% extra antiheal
>team complains about me not helping but every single time I help whether its someone being jumped or trying to take a walker they walk away there were 2 people in base at one point and THEY ALL FUCKING LEFT TO FIGHT ONE YAMATO ON YELLOWi never left a game but this MUST be low prio wtf
i was boosted to emissary by hazenow i have nothingi cant kill anyonethere are no other characters where you press 4 and get multiple killsi am quitting
>>563266426Quit to become my cumdump?
>>563266426>i was boosted to emissary
>>563266251>toxic bullets nerf isnt going to be enough to keep him under controlDispel magic keeps him under control
>>563266227This is a buff for everyone involved, particularly people playing/spectating the game
>>563266426just play her dwo
>>563266336>still scales with spirit>EE still broken so it will melt you the moment you buy those 2 itemst-thanks
>>563263861>oooooh woe is me it is so tough having two of the best cc moves in the game, one of the best movement tools in the game and mega damage from any range ooooooh i am but a lowly doorman
laugh at haze players
>>563265928>Succ gun broolerthis was good during wraithcalpocolypse and then suck got squashed, good geist is mystic regen being the ONLY spirit item you should have by late game and maxing bombs and daggers first with the rest being gun items.
First they came for the WraithfagsAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a WraithfagThen they came for the VicniggersAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a VicniggerThen they came for the DoortransAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a DoortransThen they came for the HazefagsAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a HazefagThen they came for meAnd there was no one leftTo speak out for me
>>563263920Silver doesn't even seem that good in lane
>cant play victor anymore since his buff now that everyone is playing himlame
>>563259035such an odd change. it's okay when abrams does it
>>563266775ENOUGH WITH THE DOWNPLAY
>>563262159Rotting corpses and human shit
>>563263648It's over.
>>563260168least gay mina poster
>>563266779he is still shit
>>563252327Shit art, Venator uses his shotgun in the left hand and normal gun in right because his left eye is blind.
>>563266771Don't care, I only play Seven
>>563262910it's an alpha you retard, faggots like you are the reason they made a second playtest because you get too atached to shit like viscous shitty modelget a rope and kill yourself
>>563266771Don't care, I only play venator.
>>563266771Who are you
>>563267129forgot image because stupid 4chan expired my captcha and i had to remake the post
>>563267189Kek ok that's very fitting
>>563267109>faggots like you are the reason they made a second playtestthis haze change and the second playtest shit are both a sign of bad devs, idk how it could be the players fault
just played against victor as infernusas expected the victor was easily slain as he could not purge my triple antiheal itemshe even bought dispel magic, the fool
>>563266701BRS is also a good spirit item on her, also like mystic burst to make the bomb a bit better in lane if im having a hard time clearing fast enough, but yeah with Geist you pretty much hit get either BRS or Arcane Surge and Radiant Regen for the 4.8 spirit spike and then full gun, taking any more spirit items is troll, if everyone built her as a gun carry she'd probably hit 55-57% WR, especially since people are too stupid to kite her when she's low (ult range is only 5 meters), or silence wave her and burst her.
>>563262541who actually buys scourge? yamato?
THE REDDIT ROBOT BOUGHT UNSTOPPABLE! NOBODY CAN NERF HIM NOW!
>>563267290>boosted haze player tears
>>563265085they buffed gay galon that makes this patch shit
>>563267381nope
>>563267358my strat is to hide in the shadows and then just shoot his head when he ults my team
>>563267415t. got birded
>>563265273they reverted jumpstart?
>>563266775Her laning, like all things related to silver, is entirely based on the player's skill and aim.Silver's shotgun starts to hurt pretty damn quickly around the middle of laning phase she can turn you lacking a bit in lane into a big problem very quickly and then after getting gaped under towers because you fed her a few early camps and maybe a kill she'll fuck off to roam and gank your other lanes and you'll have to deal with that until late game.Silver player can't aim? Then she blows.Silver relies so much on her shotgun she probably rubs her cunt on the stock to masturbate because she can't get a man.>>563267415PREDATOR MISSILE IN YOUR AO
>GravesBuilt for ugly bastards>VindictaBuilt for feral dog knots>GeistBuilt for shy shota cocks>MinaBuilt for M&K>Paige and IvyBuilt for loving relationships turned into reverse NTR with Vyper Any questions?
yeah i dont fight feyyahh
Mirage status?
>>563267545Stop watching porn.
>>563267290I don't care about your retarded excuses, you are part of the problem and the main reason we no longer have experimental changesim serious kill yourself faggot
>>563267545You forgot>SilverBuilt for nothing. Literally nothing.
>>563267616Built for ME, you mean
>>563267545put Paige up with Vindicta and agreed>>563267616built for BHC pounding her warm in heat fortune cookie
>>563267358Reddit robot not getting any nerfs while somehow Doorman gets a nerf i think is pretty definitive proof that they neef based off bitching on discord, which is mostly shitlow fags. Haze got hit with a nerf since she could nigger ult at any rank, while reddit professors at low ranks seem to always build stomp and waste ult to solo kill one hp no stamina niggas anyways, so bambis arent complaining about him. I think this is also why we didnt see any Kelvin nerfs (low rank Kelvins are legit grifters)
>>563267592this is not an experimental change though, it's a shit change that sucks. also i am a huge advocate for the devs putting in whatever bullshit they want
>>563267567DOWNPLAYED
>>563267616Damn.
>hop on brool>just talk like a schizophrenic in all chat constantly>50/50 chance someone goes along with it>piss myself laughing while these retards try to decipher the chat like its the raiders of the lost arkAnyone who takes this dumb ass game mode seriously deserves being forced to have me throw word salad at them between kills
How is graves gun dps still not buffed?
>>563267545>Vindictabuilt for footjobs>Paigebuilt for Abrams
>>563267776auto aim should never be strong
>write in all chat "boy the other team sure does suck ass huh team">then follow up with "oops wrong chat">watch the seethe unfoldI love it, it's the most obvious bait to piss off the other team and yet it works every time.
>>563267701>they nerf based off bitching>they buffed bebop and didn't nerf himIf anything this proves they don't nerf based on bitching though because bebop is one of the most bitched over characters in the entire history of the game.
Me>Built for mommy dom breastfeeding with Geist
>>563255065In order to stay true to the game's ambience, deadlock's balance patches are made through the use of an ouija board.
>>563262910They can balance it around the change, the Aoe zero aiming shit was just aids to fight against it. Sorry little timmy you can't just hold 4 and phantom strike anyone who tries to escape.
>>563267776Graves gun build being strong is genuinely a miserable balance decision and I think graves should always lose a gunfight to anyone with more of a brain than her.
i played a few games as silver in street brawl and i felt so fucking lost what the hell does this wolf girl do
>>563267961Did you know one (1) 3200 item made her totally useless
If they ever add aghs upgrades to the game then Rem should get a stupid fucking looking Mega Meepo analog skill with his familiars, some retarded ass Rem super sentai
>>563255065 Why not?
>>563259368>he never built full spirit VenatorIt's incredibly fucking funny to stay back, throw lane-sized instant death nuclear mines and get absurd gun buffs for it. That being said it changes nothing, just makes the traps worse if you don't invest points which is fair because pretty much every mainstream Venator build has the trap as last skill.
>>563267349apollo, mo and krill, abrams, shiv, lots of characters should buy it if they think they'll be sticking on lots of people
>>563268015Metal skin lasts like 4 seconds and slows your movement + dash, the prior ult builds had her going for 13+ seconds and if she had phantom strike or warp crystal you just aren't escaping.
>>563268015seekerGAWD
>>563267545
>>563267980she does nothing, thats the jokepeople pretend shes a hero
>>563265973its neutered but it still gets the job done
>>563261424youre still taking them out of the fight so it's up to you to use your brain to figure out who to do it on (not the person youre fucking focusing)doing it for damage is retarded
>>563267545celeste?
>>563268110You can reposition, kill her OR stun her after unstoppable ends during that time
>>563266771Catniggers next on the chopping board
Objectives might be the biggest midwit trap I swear to god your average player has swung from>Objectives? What's thatto>BROOOOO WE NEED TO PUSH RIGHT FUCKING NOW TWO PEOPLE JUST SHOWED ON THE MAP SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO ALL IN AND INT FOR THIS WALKERIt especially pisses me off past early game when dying actually matters and people won't look for map control or picks for pressure, they'll just deathball an objective and die like dogs
>>563268256Shant be talking to a seeker trying to make me mad, enjoy no more free wins with her.
>>563267720so you are a retard contradicting yourself, got it, you are the main reason they made the second playtest to actually test shitKill Yourself ASAP
>Egg: bought>Lanes: farmed>Game: carriedYep, it's Seven time
Even if dynamo is really strong atm, he honestly isnt that annoying to play against compared to most other S tiers imo. he is fairly fair for the most part. dont think he will ever get overly nerfed.
>>563267980>Silver>StreetbrawlYou can make her work but teamfights, especially with RNG items is NOT her forte like at all.
>>563266771>First they came for the Wraithfagsthis never happened
>>563268279Worst offenders are people who think they need a whole team to take a tower. Hell, it pisses me off seeing people in my shitty bracket try and HIT the objective but are obviously "too far" which they dont read.
>>563255586>I fucking hate haze and I’m glad she got nerfs but the cone thing feels kinda stupidI feel the same, the old design was perfect when it shared damage between people in the radius. Haze is an assassin, it makes sense that her ult is really good at killing isulated people and as much as she dances she only has 2 guns, making her rape an entire team instantly is beyond retarded.While I have no sympathy for hazeplayers and am glad she got nuked, I feel like her design was made shittier for no reason.
So Haze is now a turbo M1gger hero and she can melt you in seconds if someone is a accuracy sweat/korean/uses cheats.
thoughts on the celeste nerfs? I haven't felt anything different yet.
>>563268337I didnt even play her that much because metal skin made her uselessIll just keep spamming my wraith for free wins
>>563268438pointless, still annoying
>>563268431Many Haze players were already dishonest cheaters
>>563268453>Wraith playerAAaaa makes sense now
>>563268438She's utterly useless now.
>>563268380deathy please stop doing coke bro it is frying your already autistic brain
>>563266771>wraithfagsDeserved it>VicniggersDeserved it>DoortransTo a point they deserved it.>HazefagsDeserved it.
>>563268431And that's a good thing
surprise tokamak release next week
Tomorrow, i will queue standard. Good night dlg
>>563268407>Spammable counterspell that restores stamina, ammo, etc>Fuckhuge spirit nuke that hits around corners and can be used midair if people are smart enough to jump it>Only ult in the game that can completely turn around games if people clump up everYou might need to get your head checked
>>563268438she's a bit weaker in lane now (90 less health and smaller shield) so you can theoretically punish her more effectively, but once she gets stamina mastery she's effectively the same level of uncatchable bullshit as she was
>>563267349its pretty good on holliday. you can throw it on your fronliner even if you dont have a lassoits weird because its a great item and all the front liners like to have it the effect, but none of them want to buy it
>>563268591kill yourself faggot
>they found strings for new heroes in the filesThey're speeding up the hero releases
>graves got nothing>holliday's gun was finally fixed>bebop can now self attach bombs so he's not cucked by dispell magic but they do 20% lmao so go fuck yourself>victor got some small buffs>>>>dynamo got a slap on the wristI hate yoshi so much>haze now has to aim slightly but it's still auto aim with alot of damage buffsThis is slightly better>>563267776The gun is fine, fix her retarded skulls that literally do jackshit unless you babysit them>whyBecause retards like this >>563267827 fear the reaper's handmaiden>>563267967Her range is already miserably bad so she's never gonna win against anyone who knows how to press S, also she has no stamina and subar m/s so no way she's closing the gap unless as you said her opponent is retarded, the problem is that literally every graves player myself included just builds a bunch of items to give her stamina speed maybe even slowing hex and then a bunch of gun items on top, because that's literally the only way to play her without feeling miserable, also her passive upgrade path is worth then bebop's and bebop's upgrade path is garbage, if they want people to build spirit then they need to fix the targeting and give her spirit side some buffs, as is graves is expected to get within dick sucking range with 0 damage 0 mobility and 0 sustain, so most players just say fuck it and build these things on her
>>563268820dude it's too easy
>>563268837TL:DR?It could just be the devs testing out early ideas. I would be happy if they amped up development waiting for another 6+ months for the next batch would be aids.
Can Kelvin be a spirit nuker?
>>563268837I don't want new heroes, I want the fucking remodels they're just holding onto for no reason
whats up with people just leaving? two people alive we can take a shrine no lets go zip back to base to...buy items what?
>>563269003deliberately lengthening matches is the norm
>Doorman kidnapping is a problem>Should we nerf the radius of his doors at t5?>Nah lets just totally fuck his cart and make it so everyone can see his doors LOL
silly
I actually think they should just remove the scoreboard retards trying to inflate their KDA is one of the reasons this game is just complete shit we can shoot base but oh no I need to kill the paige look my kill go up :D
>>563253517Retards can not STAND the idea that they're getting carried for a game, it's so fucking tiring. Just lean back and fucking relax you stupid fucking hoe we're about to get mid boss, all their base guardians and shrines are down we're on the sure route to victory but these nignogs (read: russians) just scream and cry in voice because we didn't risk downing the patron when their lash and dynamo were 2 seconds away from respawning with refresher ults.
>>563269003playing the objectives? what's that?
>>563268983Next Year
>>563269276What I don't get is why all the seethe over kidnap Doorman now? It's been a thing for ages and is barely even viable, just annoying
The scoreboard should have even more information on it like a player's accuracy so people can shit on each other for having bad aim
i hate how icefrog just re-imagines characters' entire identities in an instantreminds me how i really like playing cleave ember spirit but he made that complete shit
>>563268983Next month
>>563269356It tilts shitters. thats literally the only reason.
>>563268884yeah it's easy so go and kill yourself
Can everyone who didnt play victor before his buff fuck off I got him once in like 5 games
>>563269356honestly probably because streamerfaggots and discordtroons whining honestly
>>563269308deathy your autistic typing style is way too blatant and you be saying the same things over and over like a botnik. are you sure you're gonna be able to contain your racism long enough to have an esports career?
>pick lash in hideout>steam profile says "thinking about lash">pick bebop in hideout>"ignoring lash"Damn, Bebop is OBSESSED
>>563268842>bebop can now self attach bombs so he's not cucked by dispell magic but they do 20% lmao so go fuck yourselfGood. If he wants to do the retarded allahu ackbar veil walker shit he can pay a price for it
>lasso someone and jump on the zip>take them to walker>it decides to spend the next 10 seconds throwing fireballs instead of stomping>target just leavesput a big wood chipper on the map that I can drag people into please and thank you
>>563269429you can't be giving me this much power over you dawg please
>get rejuv>time to do the final push>see our bebop at full hp zip from the pit to the base to buy something instead of going to the secret shopmap rotation is truly the great filter
>>563269356>barely even viable, just annoyingBeing able to eliminate one person from a fight is ALWAYS valuableAnd the fact that he can kidnap someone then return to hotel another is strong
i love playing terrorist warden
Just woke up. Victor bros how are you guys feeling?
>>563269356Every doorman beyond oracle has been spamming that shit.>t. low ascendantOnce I see a doorman 9/10 hes running a kidnap build.
>>563269658The input required to successfully pull that off is far harder than just playing any other hero that can press a button and shut someone down, the rest of his kit is shit too.
Would anything change if they made every hero have max velocity I feel like it's the most useless and annoying stat that has plagued several heroes for some time
>>563269720>echoshard cageNow this is proper epstein tech
>>563269356>What I don't get is why all the seethe over kidnap Doorman now?Because they gutted his gun build, and then they overbuffed his bell build and proceeded to gut that as well. So his only viable build became kidnapman and people (streamers and homosexuals) hated playing against it. So now they are gutting that too.They just don't know what the fuck they are doing with doorman.
>>563269308>Retards can not STAND the idea that they're getting carried for a gamei don't like getting carried but only because i don't feel like i deserve the win if someone else does all the hard work
>>563269804>cage them>they debuff remover>echo shard>cage knockdown slowing hex
>>563269356It's literally his only viable build now so that's the only thing people can play. Doorman does no actual damage and even in eternus people ignore your doors when you scream at them.
>>563269589>being ganked>run to secret shop>do the jump to leave it>enemy can't do the jump and i'm saved
>>563269781The aura change is nice but if they don't revert the jumpstart change he will never feel good.
>>563265779Would be nice if you could pick a male or female mannequin.
>>563269926>chasing someone >they jump out the secret shop>fuck up the jump>just walk away
>>563265779porcelain windup dollgirl would be too based but i think if any game would pull it off it'd be deadlock
>>563268096>It's incredibly fucking funny to stay back, throw lane-sized instant death nuclear mines and get absurd gun buffs for it.Do you have footage of that, I need to see this
>haze is dead in the guttergood riddance
>>563270121she was the only honest hero in this gameliterally only thing you had to do was buy metal skin
>>563266701>>563267342arcane surge and kinetic dash feel so fucking good on geist.
>>563269356>>563269805Kidnapman was fine when it was throwing people under Guardian or Walker or even the boss room or whatever. Annoying, sure, but quirky, utilizes multiple game mechanics and surprisingly takes some skill. Even if you get caught there's counterplay - getting hit by one Walker stomp isn't instant death unless you were already low or there's bunch of enemies around and there are items and characters that can avoid it wholesale.Kidnapman became not fine when faggots figured how to trap people in geometry with it in ways that cannot be escaped in any way other than suicide.Personally I also think kidnapping people into spawn room sucks, no matter what hero does it, mainly because 99% of the time all it does is prolong the suffering of the losing team.
laugh at haze players btw
>>563269781Not a victor bro but his jump-start is only useful for charging his pain battery early game, i feel like you NEED to max it first so you get some proper no downsides healing>>563269930I don't want him to be a raidboss again, that felt miserable>inb4 build antihealI did, it did jackshit, idk if he could cleanse anti heal with his 2 back then or what but it felt like a damage and build check for the whole team, and even if you succeed in killing him he just revives
>HERE COMES THE BARREL!how do you respond with sounding mad?
>>563270359>and even if you succeed in killing him he just revivesSECOND PHASE
>>563270359imo he should get cleanse back but lose the charges on that ability so he cant spam it, without cleanse he just fails to be tanky at all>>563270254if you can consistently initiate with a dash jump into surged drain and land your kdashed M1s you can melt anyone in mid game, its busted
>>563269930>kudzu bomb on legsThat's not an insult anon, kudzu bombs deal a fuckton of damage>>563270243>noooooooo i don't want to aim ;O; give me the auto aim ult back nooooooShe had some damage buffs to her fixation so she's stronger early too so objectively she's better all you have to do is aim you retarded hazecuck
They already killed haze ult build with the t3 +1 target nuke. Idk why they nuked its targetting too.Don't get me wrong, bullet dance deserved the t3 nerf because +1 targeting to an ability that can apply ricochet was always dumb. But the angle comes thing feels like an experimental over correction that will get reverted soon.
>>563270446>does nothing after 10 minutesOoooh I'm so mad haha
Literally the INSTANT i got to Ritualist after Arcanist 6 by getting 4 WINS IN A ROW WITH 3 MVPS this is the fucking retarded nigger team i get and i get bumped down to Arcanist instantly.Climbing is fucking impossible in this retarded nigger game i hope Yoshi's mother gets asscancer and gets raped to death by a pack of niggers.
>>563264257The nerfs aren't even that bad? The cart stuff sucks a little in higher elo but even then if you're doing the vortex web combo right it's really fucking hard to react to the cart.
>>563270602it makes absolutely no sense and feels like an entirely buttmad motivated change
>>563270649...and that's why IM the law
>>563270528>and land your kdashed M1sthe amount of times I've had to rely on malice spam to finish a kill because I keep missing my shots is a little embarrassing.
>>563270658>12 deathsLooks like you're where you belong, sucks the apollo couldn't carry you
>>563269579your power is being retarded? lmaokill yourself
>>563270750I was the only one trying to do objectives/urn you retarded niggerfaggot. They got fed so fucking hard i couldn't leave the base for 10 seconds before dying.
paige is so ridiculous why doesnt she get nerfed WHY?!
>>563270803>supports>getting turbo nerfedif they weren't broken as shit nobody would play them in matchmaking
>>563270772you seriously can't still be upset right?
>>563270786Uh huh yeah, you unga your team bunga. All that jazz.
honestly i don’t see this affecting her pickrate at all. her ult has been trash before and you still saw her every single game. I’m not even sure this is such a huge nerf. buy slowing hex and look in their general direction, would you not get the exact same results as before? weren’t you doing just that anyway?
>>563270786>22k damage>I was the only one trying to do objectives/urn you retarded niggerfaggot.Sucks to suck honestly. Try a real Ivy build next time, not some retarded support healslut bullshit.
>>563269276It's so you can still kidnap people>>563269356>It's been a thing for ages and is barely even viable, just annoyingHis cart used to hit you even if you merely brushed it's side and because it was a stun you could do nothing as you're carted away to a walker with door man and maybe a few others jumping in to warcrime you, it didn't exactly feel good to play against desu, mind you, you could counter play it by always anticipating the kidnapping and keeping your distance but it generally wasn't fun, nothing changed imo, in most games I'll still keep my distance from doorhomo, only now if im chasing him he doesn't get to cart me to 30m away with a fat stun on top
a goon from your patron
>>563270907some people pick haze to laser beam people with their 1k hours in kovaakslast patch people were picking her to press 4 and win games
>>563270528>without cleanse he just fails to be tanky at allThere's just too much antiheal in the game frankly.Some heroes have it. A lot of the best items (Inhibitor, Toxic Bullets, Healbane) have it.
>>563270843>upsetlmao kill yourself
>return fire 60% weapon damage>this is too strong, drop it to 50%>this is too weak, boost it to 60%>this is too strong, drop it to 50%>this is too weak, boost it to 60%can they make up their minds
>>563271074he's mentally creampied you atp
the most fantastic element of the game is NYC having good public transport
>>563270602100% deserved>>563270803If you're playing against a paige then you're playing the ground is lava, spirit resist also helps>why no nerfs WHY?!Because she dies to anyone(drifter) who jumpes her from behind while her team is fighting, her dragons don't land in close range she's not tanky and has 2 stamina a most of the time her shield and sword are down. She's a loyal wife who walks two steps behind her carry
>>563271080>get enhanced returnfire on billy in street brawl>Does 200~ish damage every single fucking timeWhoever designed this shit needs to be fired, it's fucking dogshit
>>56327108055%
>>563271103white people hate it so much when you tell them to stop doing coke and be introspective
>>563271080This is proof that icefrog is dead btwIcefrog wouldn't be afraid to adjust the damage to 51.652738478% if it means making the game betterThis is instead of league of legends balance their game. They use big round numbers because they are easier to read and memorize, even at the cost of a lot of changes doubling their effects when they tweak a 10% -> 20%
>>563271080>that time when return fire was borderline broken because it would auto aim and headshot causing hazes to shoot themselves after bullet dancingbetter game desu
>>563271103>he's mentally the esl appears to support his fellow retard, of courselmao
>>563271467are you sure you're calling the right person an esl?
>>563270978Not him but support healer Ivy IS a real Ivy.Or at least it was.And might be again when we get double tether back.But it definitely at least was.
>>563271467>he's mentally>he has mentallynice self report, looks like it's you who needs english lessons lil brochachito
>>563271359>lol out of NOWHERE League of legends derangement syndrome
>>563267545>>Geist>Built for shy shota cocksFor me it's those evil shotas with buzzcuts and unrealistic big dick that clearly knows what they're doing
>>563270978>DUDE LE DAMAGE IM A RETARD HERO SHOOTER SECONDARY AND DONT KNOW SHIT IM A STUPID NIGGER LMAO
>be winning>stomping hard>like 30 kills to 10>have silver on team>lose anyway because we can't end 5v6 and the enemy recoversFUCK THIS WORTHLESS FUCKING HERO EVERY FUCKING GAME I SEE THIS SHIT IT LOSES Literally haven't seen this garbage hero win a single time in a week, genuinely the worst hero in the game
>>563271668>what is this MOBA game which is 80% skill shot, no TP scroll/BoT, no buyback, no highground penalty, no resource management, no turn speed based onThe answer isn't dota 2 btw, Prakeesh
>>563271716>being this mad because you're a worthless feeder Lol. Lmao.
>>563270803Girlfriend mode character along with Graves, they need to be easy and low effort.
>>563269003More items means we can destroy their base quicker seeker kun
>>563271617>>563271568>>he has mentallynow THAT is an actual self report that you are both retarded and more than likely brownlmao
>>563270602Is the angle change even a nerf? The problem before without extra target was it was hard to really target one guy so you spun and hit everyone once, with angle change you can focus fire in a team fight better
>>563271886you can call the he has mentally guy retarded, but don't drag me into your shit bait for calling you out you retarded monkey nigger
>>563270750Nta but wdym? He's literally one of the 3 people on the team with 0.5 ish kda while the rest are all negative>>563271602Nta either but permanent tether is better, it gives shit like 50% lifesteal, 50%firerate and +2 movment speed permanently while you stay near that teammate, it's busted, i mostly build tank and spirit because running support is a gamble on what team you get but it's clearly superior imo especially since healing in the mid and late game isn't exactly easy since everyone is out of position and some might get brusted before you get to heal them
>>563271886>projecting brownyawn, SEA/Oceania must be dead
>f2p game >implying the entire general isn't brownyall niggas pretending to call yourself Parisian
>>563272108I am polish
i like how geist plays the same as victor but no one complains about her because you actually need to aim well
>>563272106>Nta either but permanent tether is betterNot for me, I want the burst healing from double tethered health novas backBy the time lategame comes around you should be shifted into a vortex + double stun support when you're doing healer Ivy anyway
>>563272239>i like how geist plays the same as victor butNot even close desu>no one complainsAlot of people complain you're just blind anon>about her because you actually need to aim wellSHE HAS 2 POINT AND CLICK ABILITIES AND 2 ABILITIES WITH HUGE RANGE YOU RETARDED MIDWIT FUCK YOU
>>563270658shitter post of all timeyou're struggling in arcanist, actually running it down, and somehow still blaming your teamlegit just play better>inb4 your 80iq ass starts spamming your catchphrase
>>563272193The Anglosphere consider slavs, Irish and Italians to be brown. Yes, Venator is a brotha, and Doorman is actually Yakub.You can ask Winston Churchill about this. No, your skin color doesn't matter. Your blood does.
>>563253921God damn, you would think Celeste was the strongest character in the gameGuess I'll do something else for a while.
>>563272107>projecting brownyeah, you lmao
>>563272459retarded nigger still in delusion after a decade of shitty forced loss Dota 2 matchmaking lmao
>>563272479Yeah but the anglosphere is filled with browns anyways, but it doesn't matter because 2/3 of my games are filled with russianbots. These guys are actually monkeys.
>>563272527Celeste is unplayably useless now
Does the auto-parry cheat work on slowing hex and other items? I've just seen a mina perfect last frame parry every single hex.
>>563270658Least dunning kruger Ivyfag
>>563272576>n-no ui accept your concession
>>563272527thats because she was
>>563254882hilarious that they keep slapping him on the wrist when the real problem is the fucking 35% damage reduction debuff that you can never get rid of because he can reapply it as he pleases.
>>563272416gun giest is the only good giest. spirit is shit
>Bebop: Sticky Bomb can now be self cast again, but it deals 20% damage to yourselfI'll take it.
>>563272867The healing is aids too but whoever thought of adding inbuilt inhibitor deserves to be taken out back and shot.
>>563272617>NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERas expectedi got placed in ritualist and 1v11'd to phantom because i have two hands and a braincope more shitter
>teammate dc>you are free to leave but you still accounted for game loss because someone else action????
>don't get useless fucking silver on my team>winIt really is that fucking easy
>>563273075Please don't call her useless, it's mean...
>>563273058It's a team game, you're always going to be relying on your teammates actions for wins and losses.If he'd stayed in the match and fed 2 dozen kills instead of abandoning would it make you feel better?
>Express Shot alt fire damage buffedViscous bros... are we back?
>>563273230its literally targeted buff on silver, express shot was 30% of her dmg in matches
>>563272896>50 dps for 5s with 80%lifesteal on a charged ability with 0.83 scaling is bad>>wide 9m radius bomb that deals DOT after the brust with 1.22 scaling is badOk
>>563273272... how do we tell him...?
Now that I think of it, the Haze nerf really doesn't affect how I played Haze at all. Can't you still sneak up on people and beam them down?
>>563273272It's totally irrelevant to Silver. They buffed the alt fire damage, Silver doesn't have one.
>>563273329>-65% damage on teamfight ult is ........... le same actually!
lost THREE games in a row yesterday because of one shitty haze ultbotting and killing my entire team (not me because i wasn't stupid enough to group up while she was alive).feeling pretty vindicated right now.
>>563273378>>563273378
>>563273075>Try to play late game>AOE end game nukes and m1 spam make it impossible for you to get your burst off before instantly exploding in teamfights.It feels so bad manI can gank the enemy mirage 10 times, but it doesn't matter since comeback mechanics are overpowered.Love the hero but it needs some fundamental changes.
>>563254882It's a slap on the wrist but I'll take what i can get, i really don't understand how him dynamo and seven get away with this shit when victor and graves got the ryona and snuff film treatment
>>563273075Silver has a terrible laning phase and can do nothing at all in the endgame
>>563272786you are brownlmao
>>563272527Celeste is literally Thanos, bro.
>>563273323Ritualistbro...
End of service soon
>>563271080Buff it back to 80%, it's still fucking useless.
>>563262910how the fuck are you spinning and hitting anything in the first place? they can change the animation btw retard bro and make it like lucian ulther previous ult was always cringe
First, how big is Silver in wolf form? The concept art implies she's 8 foot even slouched, but in game Abrams is as tall if not taller. Second, is her gun a Winchester or a Marlin?
>>563256269>brunetteShe's blonde you dyslexic cuck
why are silverfags so fucking annoyingthey might be worse than victortards
>>563279972Probably 8 feet if she stood up completely. As for the rifle, it looks like a marlin but it's called a shotgun and acts like one
