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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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UH, ALL THE IXIAN PEOPLE OR IGGERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OFF THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE ITS FOR WHITE PEOPLE ONLY, UNDERSTAND, CAUSE IF YOU DON'T I WILL MAKE IXIANS SLAVES AGAIN!!!
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SILVER IS FUCKING WORTHLESS
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Sex with Venator
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>>563273523
STOP
SHE'S A POOR LOST SOUL SEARCHING FOR MEANING IN A HARSH CRUEL WORLD
CUT HER SOME FUCKING SLACK
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>>563273458
What I don't get is how people have memed her up as some early game stomper when she has the worst minion clear ever. You can't even confirm minions kills most of the time.
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>>563273520
ummm racism isn't cool, Lash...
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>It's another episode of silvercucks coping
At least they're not talking about dog dicks and dog vaginas
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>>563273634
Her harass and early burst is exceptional
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>majestic leap bebop is back
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My Deadlock hot take:

All movement, stamina shit etc. has to be utterly nerfed across the board. High level games being all about tranny speedrun parkour bullshit where even the slowest, 2 stamina characters can cross the map in 30 seconds is not how the game should work and makes macros impossible to balance.
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>>563273520
The only Ixian that is actually black is Infernus. He is so black his melanin overrides the default red/blue skin tone of the Ixians.
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>>563273797
Dota is still there. You don't have to play a game you just don't like at the core, you can literally just go back to your low skill expression ASSFAGGOTS.
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>>563273725
I'm gonna share a little secret. Every endgame hero has good early burst too. Except victor but he's homeless right now.
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>>563273797
I already said this multiple times.
>Remove vents
>Stamina regen nerfed 20%
>Zipline speed slowed
>Map size increase
As is everyone is everywhere at once and positioning barely matters.
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>>563273797
I think they should patch out the more niche movement tech like edge/cornerboosting, but everything else is fine
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>>563273713
She deserves the whip but all she will get is the Lash.
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>>563273797
fix the map geometry or get rid of edgeboosts
keep everything else
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why didn't seven get nerfed?
not bitching since i play him but i was expecting something.
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>Geist nerfed
it's over...
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>>563273717
>At least they're not talking about dog dicks and dog vaginas
unfortunately
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>>563274049
He’s honest
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>>563273797
>lower the skill ceiling i don't want to learn the game
Gay take senpai
>>563273725
You're replying to a silverfag anon, they'd rather say that heroes like graves/seven/shiv are secretly good at the early game then admit they're bad. All they do is complain and ask for buffs and then when they feel particularly retarded they'll ask for all movement across the game to be nerfed into the ground because they don't want to chase or fight or do anything fun
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>>563274137
>You're replying to a silverfag anon,
I AM a silverfag, I'm allowed to reply to those if I want
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make return fire a 6400 item that returns 100% of the damage received, spirit and bullet damage
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>>563273378
I need the skins now yoshi
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How it feels to be in a losing game and holding off on berating the absolute shitter on your team because you're trying to be a changed man
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>>563274049
>why didn't seven get nerfed?
Because
>not bitching
No one is complaining about him, he has a fatter stun then ivy that is easier to land and his balls do more damage, but no one complains about them so it must be fine, same as for the WR, which is only brought up selectively.
TLDR:- bitch more if you want nerfs, stay silent if you want him to remain OP
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>>563273930
>>>niche
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>>563274049
0% comp pickrate
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>>563274287
This exact post, but instead of the number '6400', '3200' instead
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straight slitherin my shit I got lotion on my shit
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>>563274545
model update when
at least she's not sinclair i guess
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>>563274287
Not worth it unless i get 10% of both resists, and it has to state that it deals the damage back PRE resistance calculation, so if i take 1000 and my resist cuts to 500, they take 1000 and THEIR resist cuts it to 900 or something
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>cultist sac is a mandatory item again
What did they mean by this?
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>>563274585
2030 when they finally release the final sinclair deluxe early supporter skin
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>>563273797
BASED and 100% correct. I really hope they fix all the movement bugs.
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Oracle is the true shitlow cesspool.
Holy shit the match quality is horrendous.
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>>563274792
It doesn't get better in Phantom or Ascendant or Eternus in case you're wondering
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>>563274832
Well at least I can shitstomp like half the games still.
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>>563273819
idk, red is kinda bad color...
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>>563274628
>wait 5 minutes to get an extra 300 souls and an irrelevant buff that will go away and needs to be recharged
???
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>enemy apolllo
>no one get slowing hex
>I got apollo
>5 of enemies got slowing hex
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they nerfed haze and victor who the fuck am i supposed to play???
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>>563274350
This no ones complaining about Paige and she never gets nerfed
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>>563274792
Does it get any better in oracle than archon? Im in archon V atm
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>actually have to aim haze ult now
Fucking finally. It took them this long to realize how retarded that ult was.
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>>563275440
Ivy!
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>>563275001
bro your 3x warp stone length parry that bypasses slowing hex??
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>>563275539
Literally the same shit
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>>563275602
that is hot as shit but she needs aiming and stuff
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>>563273797
Yeah the edge boosting should not exist at all.
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>>563275539
LOL
Some eceleb recently created a new smurf, lost all 7 games and still ended up in oracle somehow
So no it won't get better.
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>>563275767
Why are those matches only 8 and 9 minutes long
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>>563274792
You faggots have no idea how bad actual shitlow players are. I would slaughter a baby seal to skip past emissary and archon and just play oracle games.
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>>563273797
Real. They should also slow down movement of the reticle because all the flicking shit is cancer and give characters turn speed stat so you're not able to spin 360 instantly
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us alchemistGAWDS love wallowing in the shitlow mud unlike you FAGGOTS
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>>563275917
This has to be shitposting. Giving aim assist to every hero makes sense, your suggestion is just pantsu on head retarded.
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>>563275842
7, 8 and 9
they have to be abusing matchmaking to go against another premade to lose against, that's crazy
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>paige tranny on team
>immediately dies twice
>rages in vc in his "female" voice
>tell him ywnbaw and to an hero
>rage quits and abandons
>match will not be scored
feels good lmao
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THEY DO LOTS OF THINGS
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>>563276335
And then everyone clapped
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glad to work with someone whos a team player!
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>>563276335
dont bully your tranny paiges...
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>Haze: Bullet Dance targeting is no longer a full radius around the hero, but instead is a cone in the direction you are aiming
Lmao, get fucked.
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Took em out!
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Return Fire needs an upgrade that just makes it Blademail.
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We make a great team.
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I see Bebop !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>563276692
why yes i want everyone to build return fire like they do in dota
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>>563276335
And then every chud on the planet bowed down and crowned you the new Chud King
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>>563251123
>emissary is technically "good"
lol, also way too many people in Oracle.
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>Paradox: Time Wall width increased from 7.5m to 8m
>Paradox: Time Wall height increased from 3.5m to 4m
Wow thanks Yoshi, my cosmetic effect is now slightly larger. Very cool.
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Tell me forced loss doesn't exist. Again. First fucking match after getting to Ritualist. INSTANTLY.
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WHY DO THEY NERF ALL THE COOL HEROES AND LEAVE HARD TO PLAY ONES OP
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>>563276917
It will keep going up by 0.5 every patch until it covers an entire lane
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>>563276951
>get silver on team
>lose
Many such cases
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>ritualist
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>>563273378
The last few patches have made me realize I just want to play a fast objective-based FPS and all the CC AOE cancer is what needs to go
Seems like Icefrog's got the opposite opinion, however.
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>>563276951
And of course i get bumped down back to Arcanist. EVERY FUCKING TIME. Forced fucking loss.
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>>563277058
So TF2?
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>>563276917
can't double jump over it anymore
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>>563276951
Silver!
Trying her best!!
Cute!!!
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i will be queuing rem
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>>563276448
I dont even play Haze and I think its dumb. The particle effect better match the cone so it doesnt end like Abrams succ before the buff.
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>>563273378
Good night helper.
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>Doorman: Luggage Cart no longer stuns enemies, just immobilizes/movement controls them (this means you can use dispel magic to get off)
>Open the game
>It still stuns
Huh?
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>>563276951
based bebop
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>>563277269
The CART doesn't stun you, anon. The wall impact still does.
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Real haze players would admit that the nerf puts her in a better spot, boosted monkies the opposite.
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>>563277317
Oh, okay. That's an interesting change.
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>>563276951
I dont get it , you picked silver. That means you gave up control of the match to Yoshi because your hero is literally useless and doesnt do anything
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>>563277281
if you don't have at least 10 deaths from self-inflicted bomb damage, are you even playing Bebop properly?
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>>563277269
The cart no longer works like Hook. This stops Doorman for dumping duration on the cart so you're stunned all the way until you hit a wall.
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>>563277269
>>563277317
Oh thats a yikes. Good thing I'm a bell thrower chud so this doesn't affect me.
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>>563276374
>>563276827
kek seethe and dilate

>>563276448
she needed the nerf but that's not even the real nerf. The real nerf is removing the +1 target from her max ult. -50% dps lol. Haze is just a troll pick outside of shitlow
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did doorman really need nerfs
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>>563277319
>your ult damage got nerfed by 66% when only part of ur kit that does anything is ult
>this is a buff
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>>563277578
I decided I personally dislike him, so yes
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>>563275917
this. Also put the players camera further away and from a higher angle so you can see more of the fight, ideally a bird's eye view
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New player, is viscous supposed to deal 0 damage late or am i just complete trash
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>>563277852
you're asking why a support does no damage late game
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Nerf all the slow down shit Kelvin has and to compensate make him unparriable inside the dome.
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how did this disgusting fucking kelvin character go basically untouched
jesus christ

>>563277852
spirit heroes generally fall off late game
3-centric viscous should fare better in that department, but nearly as good as a real M1 carry
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who writes this shit
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>>563276448
Good, low skill characters deserve to be bad
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>>563278118
me
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>>563276448
>press 4
>up mouse sensitivity to 1 gorillion
>spin 300 times per millisecond
>ult unnerfed, buffed even
get fucked
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Who are the best characters for focusing on objectives when my shitass team fights and dies nonstop? Like inting sion from league
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>>563278118
acceptance of fanfiction was a disaster for storytelling
sevenchu type ass shit
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>>563278118
Me and I'm proud of it
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>>563278118
He
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haze's win rate is literally untouched
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>>563278336
>acceptance of fanfiction
By who
Nobody accepts fanfiction
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>>563278327
infernus/mcginnis/wraith
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>>563277896
Most top builds make you build spirit instead of support items, i unironically didnt know
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none of my teammates ever want to be in their faces so we can win with kelvin dome
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>>563278118
He's a character from back when Sweet Baby Inc was consulting those retarded devs and you have shit like tranny Pocket etc.
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patch looks kinda dogshit ngl
we're all agreed not to bootup the game, right ?
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>>563278484
most top builds are unironically griefing-tier for most characters, they really need to do something about that entire page
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>>563273797
>being all about tranny speedrun parkour bullshit
there are e6 players who dont even know the movement techs you're just shit
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>>563278327
Infernus is probably the best one. You just push a sidelane and if someone ever comes to challenge you just flame dash away.
Just watch for slows/silences and buy dispel magic/slow resist accordingly.
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>>563278493
>kelvin domes low health targets and then laughs at me as my owl hits the dome
how dare you...
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>>563278775
Have been since january
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>nerf haze
>but buff victor
We can't ever win, can we?
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>>563277921
>compensate make him unparriable inside the dome.
>compensate
anon..
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>hollidays buff was that she doesnt have recoil
What are they doing
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>>563276951
Game gets good 60 minutes in trust me bro
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Spirit Paradox is lowkey fun (in brool)
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>>563278469
>>563278869
alright, i'll give him a chance
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>>563277578
No but he's anoying as fuck to play against.
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>>563278118
It hits that sweetspot of the horseshoe where it goes from cringe to based.
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>>563278493
This is why 90% of pub kelvins only use it to save themselves btw.
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>>563279083
we love paradox in this thread
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>>563279481
>esportsslop aimfag character
nah
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>>563279083
I wish I wasn't terrible with her and I'm not willing to chain lose games to improve.
>>563279045
>Make character easier to use
why
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>>563277921
Gut Kelvin's ice path or give it some counters and Kelvin is fixed. Sure, the ice laser is annoying and spammable but there's more niggerish run-down abilities than it, but it's the ability to fly for free forever without any downsides of flying like being suspectible to having an anvil dropped on you that makes him annoying.
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>>563278327
IVY PUSHES AND WINS
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>>563278118
This backstory should get the cinematic treatment
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>>563277578
Doorman will be nerfed to the ground, even when he's weak.
Everything that makes him unique will be taken away or made pointless.
All because shitters find him "annoying".

Just accept it.
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>>563279602
Who the fuck cares about recoil she has other problems, just slightly buff her damage on barrels and she's gonna be B tier. It's a nothing change once again and once they properly buff her all of it is gonna add up and make her S tier.
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>>563278327
>>563279207
Godspeed Anon.
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>>563279726
you vill learn the roblox obby

in fact make his t3 that you can load a customized baroness layout that you make pre-match
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>>563278327
anyone btu seven really
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>>563277578
God forbid a character having the ability to lock down a single opponent.
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>>563278327
Anyone but graves
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i swear every genny about a game with pvp will have people complaining about the better players and how theyre gay and tranny
>>563273797
>lower the skill ceiling of the game because im bad at the game
deadlock is inherently a movement game. im sorry youre too senile to learn new skills
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>>563279825
>customized baroness layout that you make pre-match
I feel like this is way too open to abuse, depending how the customization it would work.
I do however like the idea of being like 50+ possible ones that it randomly chooses, and make it somehow still work with Sinclair so people still end up in the same baroness.
The current baroness is solved, you can either make it or you can't because you are slowed/out of stamina
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>>563279726
Good fuck doorman
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>>563273797
Big agree. It's the same thing with a lot of the CS/valorant "tech" where "people" (nolife trannies with 1000+ hours on the game) cry MUH SKILL EXPRESSION as if it takes skill to practice a game so much that the janky behavior inherent in a particular game engine becoming muscle memory takes anything but time investment. It's like learning fucking L-cancelling in melee or any of other degen tech that """high skill""" (read again; NO LIFE FAGGOTS) can do in their sleep.
Retards will tell me to git gud, but actual examples of skill would be shit like gamesense, reacting to things, strategizing, etc. etc. etc.
I guarantee, in these autist-infested games, if they just started adding completely arbitrary retarded mechanics that only rewarded nolife sweats who practice them for hours you'd get a huge vocal minority defending it.

For example: Imagine they added in a mechanic wherein you could input the konami code exactly at 52 seconds on the minute clock every minute of the game, and get a 1000hp shield and +50% damage for 5 seconds - but it only works if you spin around 3 times while doing it and you have to do the whole code within the first 1/3 of that second. That example is basically an autistic freak test. Do you think that sounds arbitrary and retarded and obnoxious to add to the game? Congrats you're normal. Do you think that sounds really cool? You're an autistic NEET (at best) with speedrunner optimization brain and most likely a tranny or will troon out soon enough.
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>>563275885
how come youre stuck there? like if i make a smurf ill instantly land on oracle+. youre not actually good and deserve your rank
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>>563280125
>gay and tranny
Well, they are.
I'm not for removing skill ceiling from this game, but god dammit every time I open a steam or a video of this game is some tweeny low test voice.
Maybe this is the unfortunate Marvel Rivals heritage.
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>>563279737
>Who the fuck cares about recoil
Me I enjoy shooters. Also Skissue.
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>>563278280
nigga the only reason why haze ult did anything was the multitargeting. that shit makes her ult DPS retarded
without that the ult is back to being fairly mid. it is better though now that you can kinda select targets with it
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Every time I hear pocket go "NO MORE GAMES" I instantly think of that stupid ps3 song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS2LJ9OSPUg
I think I got the tism
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Haze sucks now and there is no other character who can 1v6 like her and its impossible to climb now with shitters. Shit game DROPPED!
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So anyone tried gun Paradox yet? I'm curious if the gun damage buff actually makes a difference.
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>>563280621
bro your wraith?
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>>563278493
>enemy Kelvin domes me
>my Sinclair domes too
>Im stuck inside the two bubbles
>both of them laugh in chat
I love this dumb ass moments.
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Am I the only one that thinks that the doorman nerfs do nothing? I don't understand why you people are complaining his kit is completely intact and debuff removing the cart is honestly no different than counter spelling it and that's counter play that's been in the game from the start.
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>>563280668
bro your seven?
bro your mirage?
bro your dynamo?
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>>563280587
>buys ricochet like you already did literally 100% of the time
woah... wow......
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>>563280703
>Wraith ult can only kill 1 person
>BLACK
>Can't kill jungle as fast as Haze with Rico
No
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>>563280621
You can 1v6 on any character in the game if you actually aren't in the rank you deserve to be in. Keep coping faggot.
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>>563280748
Because he is overall in a shit spot right now and his only impact on the game is inconsistent kidnapping shenanigans, makes no sense they'd nerf him at all especially without compensation buffs regardless of how small the nerf is.
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>>563280851
ricochet wraith is literally faster farmer but if you go that instead of capacitor ur mentally retarded
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>>563280858
>1v6
>play support
You are retarded and I am higher rank than you.
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>>563280740
As a Sinclair I've managed to intentionally ven-diagram a Billy mid ult before with the double dome.
It didn't achieve that much in the fight but it felt good man
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>>563280454
is this the reason you refuse to learn movement?
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>>563273378
they do lots of things
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enough
post 'em
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>>563280924
Her ult still can't kill 6 people and I don't want to play a nigress make her white and I might consider.
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>>563278327
>inting sion
Wasn't Nasus a better "just sit in lane and keep pushing it until you win" character?
I haven't played League in ages though.
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>>563280945
nta but if youre actually better than the rank youre at youll just statistically win more matches. theres literally nothing else to this. any good player can make a smurf and climb at a ridiculous pace so whats stopping you
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>>563280364
>actual examples of skill would be shit like gamesense, gamesense, and gamesense
actual examples of skill would be aim, movement, gamesense. redefining skills that you don't like as "autistic tech you need to grind 1k hours to learn" is retarded and reeks of shittery. and what skill doesn't just take time investment? that's the definition of a skill. you practice it and get better at it. that's it
also deadlock movement is not hard lmao. you don't need 1k for the essentials. and of the essentials, none of it is extremely niche or requires high APM. 99% of it just timing and knowledge
the emissary posting is getting out of hand
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>>563280243
Baroness should be less of a "skill" jump puzzle and more of a labirynth that's randomized every game. If you drop it early on someone they will solve it and will easily go through late game, would also be funny to have a friend use comms mid-teamfight to guide you when Doorman hits you for the first time.
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>rem on enemy team
>builds support items and has impact
>rem on my team
>gun rem
EVERY
FUCKING
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so am I supposed to play brool to learn new characters or something?
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>>563281486
Game is dead. Yoshi killed it.
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>>563281486
>>563281674
They should have buffed Silver...
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>>563280364
>cry MUH SKILL EXPRESSION as if it takes skill to practice a game so much that the janky behavior inherent in a particular game engine becoming muscle memory takes anything but time investment.
good thing you dont have to play with these players as you can just play with other life havers at a lower rank :)
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>>563281030
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>>563280839
has to be bait
2-target haze ult more than doubles your DPS
ricochet does not double your DPS
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>>563281674
3 dogshit balance patches in a row might hurt the game bit

now they are buffing flying heroes forgetting thats what killed the game first time
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Doorman should have up to 6 charges on his ult.
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so what are our honest thoughts about this patch
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>>563281326
I would like it if wall jumping didn't have some retarded 1.5 second cd ruins the fluidity. Also fuck parry mechanic most troon mechanic in game.
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>>563282027
>graves m1 still useless
its shit
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>>563282027
worst patch notes i have ever seen

haze should have been untouched, geist/kelvin/dynamo/mirage should have received bigger nerfs

rem/holliday should have gotten big buffs
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if you're far away enough you can cast wall or nade when you swap, but if you're close enough paradox tweaks out
what is this game
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>>563282027
its ASS
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>>563282027
Other than the haze nerf which was predictable, everything else doesn't seem to matter.

They need to go back to adding characters.
These patches are not enough to keep interest in the game long term.
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>>563282027
not sure how to feel about the haze ult "nerf", but her ancient echo shard sleep dagger meme build is back on the menu.

doorman's changes only affect high ranks. his kit remains in the weird purgatory of being both oppressive and shitty at all other skill levels.

I like the victor buffs but they aren't enough and probably in the wrong direction
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>>563282059
i'm alright with it
out of the

>>563282208
you can't cast abilities during the swap, but you can during the window between throwing it out and the swap landing. so at close ranges the swap lands sooner, locking you out of your abilities
if you have any amount of distance though you should be able to throw nade or wall out. instant cast or death
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>>563282483
vampires don't fart
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>Spam Billy every game
>During lane have everyone is a fucking parry ninja, have to feint 4 times to even hope to ever land a heavy melee
>As soon as the game passes 15 minutes a switch flips in everyone's heads and they forget that the parry button even exists and I can safely spam heavy melees in every fight and never get punished
What is the cause of this phenomenon?
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>>563282918
>heavy meleeing on billy

Yeah no shit people dont parry in initiate
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>>563281112
the specific strat was a lot faster so enemy did not have time to build up their strength
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>>563282918
Abrams is better
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Is archon truly the pinnacle of elo hell? How am I getting teammates that don't care about bridge buffs, don't care about sinners sacrifice, don't care about spirit urn, don't care about midboss, or souls, and play purely for k/d while the other team steamrolls objectives, free farms our jungle and steals our sacrifices and become unstoppable soul gods
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>>563283015
They don't parry in fucking oracle
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>>563283420
This game is just really bad at properly ranking skill.
It has a built in ranking system for every match and it refuses to use it, considering only win and loss when you have 11 other people on the lobby that can and will just grief either team.
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>>563283626
Unironically only time I ever start ranking up is when I start losing
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>>563282027

Steps in the right direction, though the strongest needed more nerfs and the weakest needed more buffs. Mirage shouldn't heal at all from the scarabs, the dps can be base 10 for all I care. Holliday needs more damage and scaling on the barrels and Victor needs his purge back. Geist's ult upgrades need to be way weaker and the cooldown decrease should be either T2 or T3 upgrade. Apollo needs his Riposte to only trigger from frontal cone damage, he can be given more damage scaling for his 1 as compensation.
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>>563282059
>>563282629
oh wow
out of the ways you can balance/limit repeated wall jumps, i think the current fatigue system is pretty solid

>>563282918
mental stack
in lane and in lane fights you're thinking about very few things
in bigger skirmishes and teamfights there's so much shit going on that it's easy for "be ready to parry" to fall off the stack
in lane making them flinch by sneaking in light melees unpredictably is probably the best way to land heavy melees
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>>563284097
The walljump "nerf" doesn't fit a fast action paced game like this I don't want to wait for some tranny 1.5 second mechanic thats what the other anon was getting at it should be intuitive not some stupid redditor bullshit like that.
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I can't believe Yoshi made Jihadibop a reality.
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why the fuck is cuckbop so hard to balance
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1si6wn2/harassment_and_physical_threats_towards_female/

Can you guys like, not?
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>>563284935
>Why is a hook hero hard to balance
Idk
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>>563284972
Just to clear up a few misconceptions:

Banter in a competitive game/sport of any kind is part of the culture. Slurs and insults are not, especially when based on bigotry.

Toxicity is present in the majority of online games but that does not mean people have to accept that this will be the status quo in our community.

Calling people who want to enjoy a match without insults "soft" does not make you look tough, it makes you look like a wannabe schoolyard bully who never actually played a team-sport where that attitude does not fly.

There is also this idea that Valve "does not care" about online abuse, which is demonstrably untrue; They have invested a lot into Replay-Review Systems and Dota 2 features a sophisticated Behaviour Score-System which will gradually remove communication privileges or your ability to pause the game, based on your conduct towards others.

Valve is ALREADY taking a similar path in Deadlock, there are bans for communication-abuse and report-spamming, as well as a Low-Priority Queue for griefers and leavers. You can also set language-filters via Steam Settings which will apply to Deadlock.

Make sure to report bad actors in Deadlock AND on /vg/.
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>>563284972
>Not laughing at him admitting to have a micropenis
Women can't bantz at all.
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>>563283420
i'm low ascendant but i have a smurf that i use to fuck around on with friends and meme builds and i can tell you right now you aren't as good as you think you are and every game is carryable in archon.
people are not that good down there.
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Why do people not run backstabber on Bebop especially now
>Hook counts as light melee and procs backstabber
>Uppercut counts as light melee
>Bomb them
>Early game 400-500 damage combo not counting you actually shooting them afterwards
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>>563284972
wtf are these cheating mods, theres also a HP bar right in front of your screen
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>>563285290
>the gender that gets coddled isn't used to slinging insults especially to the opposite gender
you're brown btw
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deathy just ddoss'd me ama
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when do you think we'll get the next major patch?
summer?
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>celeste spent more time hitting jungle creeps than actually playing
I love when the game gives you an anchor so you have to work extra hard to win against retards.
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>wave is halted because one enemy minion got stuck in some random awkward elevated place
funny this shit wasn't fixed yet
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>>563286312
September after los vacaciones
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>>563286324
>initiate 2
ur not that guy bro
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>>563284972
this is what redditors think harassing a ""woman"" is like
this entire interaction is fabricated for outrage and upvotes trying to ape the legit post of the tranny getting laughed at
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>>563286312
End of summer or Sept like that other anon said.
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>>563286598
that's oracle...
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>>563282027
I didn't see the word Silver in it enough so I got bored and stopped reading
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Which one of you was this lol
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>>563282027
Haze getting killed is funny, Doorman didn't deserve the nerfs since I don't think he was 50% win rate even, toxic bullet change seems OK I guess, and I'm confused how Dynamo made it through with just a slap on the wrist
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>I can't believe this person bought 61k souls worth of damage purples and no greens and their ability does damage
>This hero is broken and stupid and their ability does too much damage
Imagine being this retarded.
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>>563284794
wall jumping being uncapped would lead to the exact kind of "tranny movement" that anon was talking about
being able to stall endlessly or maintain height forever or freely scale any building would be cancer. too cheap at half-stam. and if you bump it to cost more, what are we even doing here? you hurt normal movement and stalling already costs 1.5 stam
the only obscure part is that there isn't like a little cuckjump indicator on your hud like there is for the parry cooldown. otherwise grasping the rule intuitively isn't that far-fetched. huh weird, i didn't get any boost from that walljump. oh i see, i have to wait a little to wall jump again. alright.
you don't need to know the exact window or practice the timing. it's enough to just know that you need to delay your next wall jump a bit
also the alternative of just fully locking out walljumps after one is infinitely shit
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SUICIDEBOMB BEBOP IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
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>>563282483
>his kit remains in the weird purgatory of being both oppressive and shitty at all other skill levels
He reminds me so much of Spy from tf2 in that regard
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>toxic bullet change
the reduced damage barely even matters it was mainly for triggering exposure stacks so that every spirit sneeze suddenly chunks you for half to all of your health.

Escalating exposure needs to wear off faster, its so easy to tick it up. Your dispel is probably gonna get popped to clear some of it and one of the 15 instant death dots on you, and before even 5 seconds have passed you'll be up to 12 again.
Even if you disconnect from the fight you have to wait 12 seconds for it to go away.

I swear most fights I have in lategame are 12 people with 12 escalating stacks on running around being instantly nuked by the first floor lava they step in.
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>>563287263
some anons don't check the post-game graphs and it shows
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>>563287263
The problem with toxic bullets wasn't proccing EE wtf are you on about EE is mostly a meme anyways and bought as one of your last items on most heroes
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>>563281827
>now they are buffing flying heroes
You mean GT, Vindicta got stealth nerfed last patch.
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how fucked is celeste m1 now?
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What is the counterplay???
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>>563287568
basically her massive horse cock got turned into HRT limp shrimp
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>>563282027
Haze got what she deserved, although through retarded means. They should have just reverted her ult changes.
Celeste also deserved nerfs, but I can't tell if it'll be enough.
Bebop gaining his self-bomb back is funny, I myself made the suggestion for him to take self-damage a while back.
The rest was shit.
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>>563287630

Ward his jungle.
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>>563287660
and in non mentally ill human terms?
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>>563274137
>Noooo!
>I don't wanna learn macro!
>You can't make me learn positioning!
>I don't want to learn how to aim!
>Just let me schmoooooooove!
Tranny.
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>>563278118
steve jaros, the writing lead on the saints row games
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>stomp unchanged
>only nerf is an increase on Teleport
Dynamo bros we won
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fuck doorman and fuck the baroness
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>>563278848
Thats because those people belong in initiate but the matchmaking is too retarded.
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>>563273378
Why do they keep needing her
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>>563273378
Djinns mark is utter bullshit. I was just holding back the entire base fight, Killed 3 people, and then I'm dealt 3000 damage at once out of nowhere instantly even though SpellBreaker, just cured myself with Dispel Magic, and was hitting Counterspells.
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>>563287667
celeste's nerfs are probably warranted at high rank but at lower ranks they turned her from mediocre to dogshit. I hate how every other hero in this game has "chen syndrome" from dota 2.
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>>563287968
>spirit is allowed to be giga broken
>they nerfed her fucking gun falloff punishing you for being able to aim.
I'm still mad.
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>>563288067
>me when I lie

Djinns mark is obvious when you know how it works. You get a debuff, he has to shoot you more to stack it up higher, there's a huge number on you as well now. The higher the number the more damage, when the debuff runs out you take it. Either dispel it off, counterspell it or try to have it run out when its like 3 stacks instead of letting him get 5.

>but I but I
If you ACTUALLY did any of those things you would have been fine and it can't even do 3k damage unless maybe you let Mirage buy every purple, they nerf its damage every patch.
You probably just got hit by 1 Dynamo stomp and the damage log bugged out and lied to you.
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>>563287913
retard
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is drifter a roamer or farm hero? my team keeps telling me to to farm the sidelanes
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>>563287968
This is someone's mom...
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>>563288483
There's a nightshift where one of them fails for 10+ seconds to climb up a basic 1 jump building until he just gives up and leaves.
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i thought valve was based
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>>563287263
EE is a meme only bought super late by Shivs, Sevens and sometimes Vinnys that want to larp as snipers.
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>>563288690
Read nigga read
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>>563288543
Drifter is a good sidelaner because his 1v1 is good so typically you need to commit two to contest him
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>>563287803
what makes those skills any different from movement, other than that you already know them
what part of movement skill supplants those skills at all in a way that doesn't happen the other way around as well. in other words, why is crutching on aim more sacred than crutching on movement
do you think quake died because they didn't remove strafejumping? and do you think being able to strafejump matters if you can't hit your shots?
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>>563288690
Pocket is a dude/twink but someone from Volvo wants to make him non binary
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HELLO WINDRANGER
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>>563288858
he is a delusional retard who thinks that movement is the only thing separating him (ritualist) from being an eternus player
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>>563288307
I don't have a screenshot but I saw the death damage., It was more-so around 2.4k. I'll check the replay when it comes.
>Djinns mark is obvious when you know how it works. You ge...
YES THATS WHY I BOUGHT THOSE FUCKING ITEMS
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>>563288858
Movement is a skill that matters, it's just elevated a bit too highly presently.
Slides, mantles, dash jumps etc are fine. Movement is obviously a part of the game.
But also characters should not be crossing the map in 20 seconds without item investment.

The more extreme bugs just need to be curtailed, its the same reasoning that hopping is curtailed in CS.
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>>563286916
Cheater victor sucks he cant be good
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Victor is good again bros I'm so happy
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Why don't they just make Vindicta's gun like Holliday's? fast enough to confirm but slow enough to be semi-auto'd so you can actually plink people at longe ranges instead of guiding a bullet hose.
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>>563288307
>Djinns mark is obvious when you know how it works
I wish it has a windup and visible effect before he pops it. Good Mirage players, if they know you have some way to counter it, will pop it before you do your counter.
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>>563289273
vindicta is already dogshit unless you're smurfing or aimbotting
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>>563289382
cool, but what does that have to do with her gun?
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>>563289360
They have to sacrifice damage to do so, and it becomes a mindgame. But yeah that gets around counterspell generally.
Dispel will still deal with it.
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Haze is finished
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>>563289273
>>563289382
They really need to buff vindicta because whenever I play her I get so hard I can't focus
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>>563289508
She's about to become unplayable for you then if the leaks are true.
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>>563289502
Good. Now do that to graves and the game will be fixed
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Who the fuck keeps telling people to try out pocket and build gun
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>>563289494
>They have to sacrifice damage to do so
Considering that they can just reapply it and popping does not put a cooldown on you where you can't be marked again, it's not that big of a loss. They lose more if they let you counter it.
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game needs more brown girls
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>>563289582
Are they bringing her feet back?
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Haze big nerf at the cost of constantly buffing Victor every patch.
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>>563289765
Yeah but reapplying it you have to work back up to actually having enough marks to do more than tickle someone. It's not a nothingburger.
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when will victor be good enough to solo carry?
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toxic bullets should do a damage type other than spirit
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When is he coming to Deadlock? I need some peak.
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>>563273717
I love knots and cookies!
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>>563290530
make it scale off gun
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Who is easier, abrams or billy?
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>>563274948
he's just trying to bait someone into wasting 2400 gold and an active slot on an item almost as bad as trophy collector or headhunter
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>>563290728
True. And deal pure damage.
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>>563289092
i'd say limiting movement in CS is more about the type of game it's trying to be
fucks with timings and fucks with engagements. letting people bounce around in the stand-still-to-shoot game wouldn't fit
of the 'trifecta' i'd say movement is actually the least important, like there are plenty of eternus players who have basic-ass movement when you're not going to be seeing many carrying with movement alone, with underdeveloped aim and macro
also my guesstimation might be shit but if you're not holliday your rotates are still going to be like ~15-20 seconds from lane-to-lane and only when using specific routes. which isn't actually that fast compared to contemporary ASSFAGGOTs
in general i would say the state of movement as it is now is plenty fair and fits the game deadlock is trying to be
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>they nerfed Geist
Why?
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>>563274792
just got out of an e4 game and half the people in the lobby were braindead
>>563275603
this shit needs to be fixed already. let it parry spells still, let it be usable, but remove the movement entirely if you're hexed.
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>>563278118
I'M THA JOKAH BABY
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is haze balanced now or still cancer?
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>>563290921
>>563290530
truuuuue
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>>563291025
eternus games are a meme 100% of the time
eternus 1-4 games are always like 2-3 E5-6 players per team and a bunch of lower rank shitters bringing the average down so it's as much of a stomp as the average alchemist game
and E5-6 games are 99% of the time 5-6 pre-built players per team, all e4-6, and maybe some random E2-6 players that were queing
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>>563282483
vampires don't have assholes so how could she fart
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>>563290983
At good schmoove level its 10 seconds max to move from mid to a side, or side to mid without items on any hero. Easily doable in 8.
Urn spawn to urn spawn is around 20 seconds.

I don't want movement completely removed but the devs need to be active at looking and patching bugs in the movement as its discovered.
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>get a suspiciously 0 effort free win with a good team
>next game has a guy afk with an automove script so nobody can leave
So this is what people mean with the 50/50 matchmaking huh.
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>>563225773
>>563226059
>>563226190
>>563228703
>these are PRE-patch posts
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>563291985
>overbuff a char
>they're broken
>nerf them to shit 1 week after
that's the formula
enjoy ur 1 week of grey talon
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>>563292291
Ok so where's the mirage nerf
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>>563292991
icefrogs / yoshis self insert, doesnt count
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I want to play vis but using his punch on this god awful map with so many random bumps and bits that just angle it all retarded so you dont hit shit. and I always get cucked with its range by what seems like a cunt hair.
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>>563293426
splatter is better
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yo i got ddos'd in a match, i got my key from someone else so i can't post on the forums, here's the match ID: 74816092. im the visc, gluteus. can someone post this in the https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/bad-matchmaking-thread.35834/ thread? the guys in the vc were talking like they knew me, and at the start of the game one of the dudes said "i was asking for it". pretty sure i know who it is, the other night i called out deathy in a 4chan thread where he was shilling his stream and he got pissed, so im thinking it's probably him. im pretty sure he's in the /vg/ deadlock thread posting racist shit and flaming people constantly. i also think that dude bots his stream? i made a thread a while ago talking about how i was pretty sure i was getting queue sniped and this is a continuation of that nonsense i think. anyways feel free to call me a schizo or help me out if you'd like
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>>563293684
You just made it worse for yourself buddy
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>>563293684
take your meds bro
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>>563293847
you can check the match i definitely got ddos'd, not 100% sure who it is but that guy is the most likely candidate for sure
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>>563293684
it was jeffery epstein dude

he's back and heard you were talking shit about him
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>>563290989
>head hunter
Is this good?

How come all the Geist’s on my team don’t go on 10ks
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I'm kind of new, could you guys shill me on your favourite characters that don't require you to be cracked mechanically? I like contributing to the team in utility, presence or objectives. Been having lots of fun with Rem, Warden and Mirage so far.
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>>563293684
>YOU DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO VIEW THE DETAILS OF THIS MATCH
WTF ITS REAL
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played two matches of doorman and the nerfs dont matter at all, who the fuck is saving debuff remover for the remote possibility that doorman walks up to you and carts you when you are getting raped by shiv,infernus ecc. ? And if you go for the bdsm ult build they have to use DR to get out of it so the cart is guaranteed no matter how you spin it
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>>563294224
Billy
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>>563294235
JE made the call to gabe
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>>563294285
it's less that the nerf are going to fuck him and more that he's already shit so why even nerf him
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>>563294285
can ivy just stone form out of being carted now?
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>>563291192
>Haze: Bullet Dance T3 changed from "+1 Additional Target and +3m Movespeed" to "+60% Evasion and +4m Movespeed"
that +1 additional target is (mainly) why haze has been cancer this past month and it is now gone. so yes, ult gutted.
for the laymen, haze ult is not like reaper ult. it functions like soldier 76 ult, firing her gun perfectly for her, using its stats and applying its procs.
but specifically that means it is not the case that each target takes 100% of her DPS. but instead her DPS is split evenly to each target in range. with no priority. which is to say it gets worse the more people are in it. so to that end, this patch turning her ult into a cone is a buff. she can limit who she's splitting her DPS across.
the very significant nerf though, is removing that +1 additional target. having that effectively gives her a second pair of guns in her ult. doubles her DPS. doubles the rate at which fixation builds up, which doubles how quick her ult reaches peak damage.
it's specifically what made her an ult-bot menace. because her DPS is already pretty high, so doubling it and ricocheting it across your whole team makes it ridiculous.
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They're changing Celeste's name to Molest in the next patch
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>>563294224
ivy spirit build
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>>563288706
Mirage?
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>>563294224
Dynamo
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>>563288706
I rush EE on Shiv every game. He does nothing without it.
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>>563294667
>pick mo and krill and celeste lane
>moleste
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>>563281326
Not beating the autism allegations if you can't understand the difference between something that "takes skill" i.e. ACTUAL skill expression, and "a skill" as in a mundane task any nigger ape can do with enough practice. My primary complaint is people equating the two as the same thing.
The jank ass source engine movement slop is as easy as walking or breathing, same as timing counterstrafes in CS or L-cancelling in melee - it's just muscle memory. It's also dogshit and you + everyone who defends it is an autist.
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>>563288574
Grandmother even

Imagine calling her “grandma Jean” in public and seeing her blush
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>>563287362
any one below eternus should stop speaking
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>>563293426
Greater expansion + ballistic enchantment make punches un missable
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>>563295078
She'd probably despise that given her entire motives are prolonging her life and retaining her youth
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i did it!
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>Bebop
All they had to do was give him a ministun like Pudge so he could be useful and stop people from channeling ults in front of him
>Dynamo
That's all they did to the top tier faggot?
>Haze
We buffed fucking everything but now she has to look in your general direction when she ults. Can't she just buy ricochet to still remove everyone nearby your target?
>Holliday
For one of the worst heroes in the game we have made it so you can hold down m1 and not let recoil fuck you up
A lot of these changes are just pointless number tweaks for an already fine tuned game but deadlock balance sucks ass right now
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>>563295196
good sissy, are you leaking in your cage?
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>>563295196
>Eternus 1(one)
Shitter elo
jk congrats
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>>563295196
Damn is it that easy to get boosted to Eternus? Just braindead AoE slop spam?
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>>563295196
post bussy
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>>563295278
You forgot that Doorman has fucking nothing now because shitters cannot handle being CCed
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can someone explain to me why veilwalker was triggered here? doors don't trigger it.

https://www.twitch.tv/surefour/clip/SillyFragilePandaTheRinger-s7SW9S6Qo1ZG77vf
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>>563295196
>not hardstuck in Seeker
baby come back
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>>563294224
Doorman is really funny and has been at his highest high and lowest low. If you want to put on clown makeup, make the match miserable for one person in particular, and run meme items like trophy collector and fortitude alongside getting called a pedophile every match because people can't think of good banter anymore, boy do I have a character for (you)
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https://www.twitch.tv/jamside/clip/CrispyWonderfulBananaDansGame-61nWJ0b-znLkxz3q
HOW EMBARRASSING
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>>563295196
You're such a valid af transgirl, congrats!
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>>563295441
>if you pick carry and spam aoe it's based
>if you pick support and spam aoe it's braindead slop
interesting
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>>563295073
3 hours later and this is the best cope you can come up with
aiming is a nigger ape skill by your own definition btw
and gamesense is intuition, which is gained through experience, which just means investing time doing something
name a skill that takes skill without it, uh, "taking skill"
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honestly those doorman clips don't do anything to me anymore, it's same thing over and over
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>>563295196
Any tips to climb?
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>>563295667
>because people can't think of good banter anymore
It's called safe edgy, calling someone Israeli/IDF/Mossad (not a Jew/kike) is the only form of "racism" you can do, and calling someone a pedo is the only form of "sexuality" you can mock (can't call someone a faggot anymore)
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>>563295554
At least you can slow/knockdown someone pre baroness so they get stunned coming out of it, I feel bad for Doorman players now and don't like how we're making dispel mandatory
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>Every game I'm against a doorman spamming the same walker kidnap build
I fucking hate high elo man
Once you're above phantom every unoriginal faggot does this shit.
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>>563294106
Headhunter is a bad item that's alright on Geist.
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>>563295797
Supports are always overturned retard proof vehicles women and people operate to get carried to high ranks
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>>563295943
>carries have more agency to win games
>but it's getting 'carried' when you manage to climb there on something that has less networth to play around with
lol
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>>563278118
7's bio is the most deviant art edgehog OC shit. Kinda makes it good solely because of how stupid it is.
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>>563295869
This is my favorite one because of the Rem
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>>563295927
It's really all he's good for unfortunately, they fucked the rest of his kit.
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>>563295869
>>563295927
Don't blame people running the one thing that actually works OK for him when the devs keep nerfing his other choices, to be fair
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>>563293426
Switch puddle punch to instant cast, you'll fuck up way more to start but get a better feel of where to put it than you would if you were looking at the indicator eventually. But it'll still place on random surfaces and go off in the opposite direction you wanted now and then.
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>>563295670
>ult intentionally makes you slower
>nah you should be able to slide and completely ignore that
back to giving people wet dreams bitch

I'm also convinced anyone going
>muh ult animation doesn't fit now
is just false flagging that they don't play haze, who the fuck cares
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literally ANYONE can put on their chastity cage , pick paige and follow ur carry daddy around shielding him and spamming aoes + actives
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>>563296114
>doorwoman mod
massive aura loss
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>>563296121
>>563296143
Well enjoy it while it lasts, knowing how much ecelebs cry I don't see it lasting.
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>>563296143
don't pretend that if they buffed his bell by 400% tomorrow they wouldn't just bell you and cart under walker anyway, it's more than it's the only thing that works it's the character now
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>>563295620
Huh, I figured it out. That's a neat little exploit.
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>>563278118
Here is an image of the Valve employee that wrote Seven's backstory
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>>563295667
Isn't doing doorman's stuff kind of difficult though?
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>>563296320
mhm and that's why at eternus I come across a paige maybe in 1 in 50 games. because it's so easy to get to eternus spamming paige.
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>>563295670
>ruski
>playing haze
>seething about ult
thank you for entertainment yoshi
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>>563295620
if the physical path between two doors crosses a veil the game thinks you crossed the veil and gives you the buff. or something like that
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>>563296464
Its not that most people want to actually earn their rank instead of being boosted like you.
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>Tfw no biologically born female paige player to rank climb towards eternus with
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>>563296712
BLYAAAT I CAN'T GET ANY KILLS NOW BLYAAAT UNPLAYABLE IDI NAHUI CYKA
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>>563295670
i mean no dash is retarded but the aiming part is good
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>>563296779
Yeah that's exactly it. not sure how useful it really is, but it's a neat interaction
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>>563296832
Hey
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>>563296464
its okay sis

i dont care if you play paige, now follow me around and shield me
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>>563296402
it feels like it was added on purpose, i can't imagine how do you "fuck that up" from a coding perspective
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>>563296795
ah yes earn their rank spamming dishonest niggers like apollo mirage haze infernus mina etc
>BUT IT'S OKAY, THEY HAD TO SHOOT YOUR BODY 5 TIMES TO DO 1000 DAMAGE
kek give me a fucking break faggot
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Might as well change the Haze ult to just heal the opponent at this point what a dog shit nerf.
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>>563296982
Is this you? >>563295670
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>>563296867
You're probably a fat foid fuck off
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>>563296975
Keep begging better players to duo q with you like you did in previous threads paige anon. If you actually had skill you would be able to play real heroes instead of being a healslut.
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>>563296867
Hello milady I did not make this post >>563297169
as I respect women. I simply did not reply because I don't think I'm good enough for anyone.
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>>563297212
no contest on what I just said huh? well at least you know braindead m1 passive slop takes no skill I guess.
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Shut up guys I actually have eternus macro because I know where to stand behind the players actually contributing something, it doesn't matter that I'm unable to play any other hero lest I fall back to arcanist
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>>563297383
No, I don't acknowledge your fraudulent ass. Now get back in the kitchen I want a sandwich.
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>>563296867
hey even if you're fat it's not necessarily a deal breaker for me hmu
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>>563296867
sup bitch I was just trolling you with this last post just now >>563297330
I will never marry you.
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Do you guys have deep cool voices? I'll play Paige for you if you do
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>>563297532
>>563297554
>anti paige poster is just an unfunny virgin larping and spamming the thread
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YOSHI IS A FUCKING BLOODY BASTARD DALIT FUCKING NERFING HAZE FUCKING DOGSHIT DALIT WESTOID DOG GAME FUCK YOU SON OF A WHORE BHENCHODS
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>>563297637
no but i can do a pretty good stewie griffin impression
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>>563297705
Post vocaroo
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>>563297637
yeah I've been smoking cigarettes for 10 years so my voice is pretty deep
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>>563297553
sent ;)
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>>563297662
That time of the month for you, Paige-anon?
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>>563297637
Girls like my voice and personality, they ghost me when they see me tho
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>>563297637
sorry i only play soloq in deadlock and other games with my trans friend :)
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>>563296460
It takes some practice but he's honestly not too hard to figure out, I legit think his hardest build to really do good with is gunman because of how slow his bullets feel compared to others, but eventually you start to pick up on making door plays. You don't have to kidnap people with them, just start off having a door placed towards a safe zone and use it to dip when things get sketchy, more flashy plays come letter with experience
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>>563297869
Have you tried not being ugly?
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>>563297849
I'm so glad we're finally trans affirming in this thread and agreeing that trans women can have periods too.
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>play geist
>people are often mean to me or lane partner gets angry at me that he runs into enemies and dies
>play paige
>everyone thanks me even though I often don't even do much just miss my aoes and waste shield
huh
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>>563297915
No point
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just saw vegas facecam hahahah holy shit turn that shit off bro you're not him
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fuming about another man's looks is gay
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>4 solo ults used on me at the same time
>THEY STILL COULDN'T KILL ME
I LOVE SEVEN!
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>Seven ult aoe dmg that takes up half the map
>Can take up the whole base
>Victor
>Can delete whole teams with aoe dmg
>Haze ult aoe
>WAH WAH MUH METAL SKIN NO LET ME WIN YOSHIT PLS NERF
>Haze becomes cosmetic
Spiritsissies never stop shitting and pissing themselves the moment any M1 is good huh?
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>>563298056
It's simple
>don't be fat
>don't be bald
>don't be a jawlet
>don't be nonwhite
>don't be short
>take care of your hair
>hit the gym
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FIX HOLLIDAY NIGGA
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>>563298037
Anon, rubbing a dilator one your axe wound won't make you a real woman sorry.
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>>563298225
People didnt even build metal skin vs haze, they just straight up rather lose than build that fucking one item

then icefraud panders to those retards by removing haze from the game
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>>563296832
>wanting to play games with a foid
The fuck?
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>one
holy esl
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>>563298413
I like women
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>>563298413
but do play games with fags and trannies though right kill yourself
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>>563298365
Shitters cannot handle deviating from their L-R build in any way. Bro if I get the green item I'll miss out on 10% more damage!
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>>563298413
That's true love right there
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>>563298326
>mfw don't even like barrel shit but really like headshot bonus damage and wish crackshot builds weren't just going full retard with the character
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meanwhile in initiate: >>563298215
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>>563298365
Stay mad Haze nigger you faggots have been a stain on the game for too long.
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>>563298042
carry spamming AoEs = selfish, stinky, toxic
support spamming AoEs = stunning, beautiful, selfless
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>>563298075
>turn on stream expecting to see a goblin
>relatively normal looking dude with a zoomer haircut
boooooo
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>>563298505
Women are for fucking, anon. Games are for the boys.
>>563298525
When did I say that?
>>563298548
Fair enough.
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>>563298449
Mнe пoхyй пидop
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>>563298774
Go off, bisexual king
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1si6wn2/harassment_and_physical_threats_towards_female/
Alright fess up, which one of you sexist pigs was this?
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>>563298525
Fags and troons can sometimes be good at games, foids never are
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>>563298886
Me
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>>563298603
>yeah bro you guys been good now its someone else's turn
Retards like you are why the balance in this game is hot dog shit. No one in E6 thinks Haze is a problem.
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>>563298886
I'm convinced only trannies makes posts like this
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>>563298886
i call all women skanks
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>>563298767
naaaah brooo he isn't him brooo frfr he lookin like cornball ahhhh fr bro
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>>563298886
I thought it was against reddit tos to do witch hunts, seems rules do not apply to women
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>>563299086
>source: my initiate ass
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>>563299212
sybau
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>>563299267
ahhhh goofy ahhh bro he be lookin super corny bruh fr
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>>563299086
Stay mad I guess. You deserve worse than you got.
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>>563298964
>just be a troon loving faggot
nah all you bro i'm good
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So why is Apollo untouched
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>Vegas looks like a human thumb
When are we getting a Clavicular Deadlock streamer why all of them sub 5 or a troon?
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The Haze abusers have all jumped ship to Infernus, if you were wondering.
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>>563299086
Haze wasn't nerfed, just changed to not be an ult bot they buffed her dagger and shit
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>>563299463
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>>563299263
Post rank.
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>>563299505
guess yoshi is removing infernus dash next patch when reddit is complaining about it
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Waiter! Waiter! More haze player tears please!
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>>563299478
We have metro
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>tfw no buffs to Calico
She doesnt do any damage bros hows an assassin going to do no damage
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for any of the victorfags here is 1 >2 > 3 > 4 the skill order now? or 1 > 3 > 2 > 4
im unsure if leveling aura t3 second is better than jumpstart t3 but the damage from aura with EE is not bad..
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>>563299564
>Yeah bro just play the meme echo shard dagger build bro
Kill yourself.
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>>563299478
>why are people who spend huge amounts of time grinding a video game not very photogenic
it's pretty self-explanatory
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>>563299478
we already knew what he looked like
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>>563299704
if ult isnt your first maxed skill ur mentally retarded
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>see tutorial
>click
>mods
>close tab
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>>563299864
ok lil gup
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>>563299478
>these are the people calling themselves femboys (ironic)
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The game needs more characters like victor, graves, mo&krill and paige.
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They should give Holliday her street brawl buffs in the normal game, and when you get a crackshot kill the enemies head should violently explode with nasty gibs and brains and shit
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I play this game on hotel wifi
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>>563288087
>tits
Cringe. Vyper is flat
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played against someone with autoparry for the first time last night, annoying as fuck.
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rework Scourge so its not a useless toggle active but an actual late-game scaling spirit damage item
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Started out Initiate 2, at Alchemist 4 now. My alt placed in Archon 6 but I don't think I'm ready for that yet so I'm grinding my way up to whatever rank feels comfy.
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Majestic leap is the best item in the game.
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>>563278118
What is wrong with it? I swear people just post any writing and go "What is thisssssssss???"
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>>563300232
gaming on vacation on a laptop in a hotel room is fun desu
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I just saw the patch notes
>Haze buffs
??? What is Yoshi smoking
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>>563300328
is scourge bad? i've never really looked at it closely, think i've bought it like twice when i had an unused active slot and we had a big beefy initiator.
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>>563300540
>3% max health per second damage
Sounds pretty decent to me
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>>563300502
>actually nerfing the character so hard shes not even pickable anymore is a buff!
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>warden and infernus still not nerfed
welp. game's dead
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>>563300703
>you don't get it bro I should be able to pop metal skin and 1v1 haze in her ult otherwise she is OP
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Burning a path!
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>>563299704
Both 1 and 2 to T2 ASAP (whichever order you prefer), then max 1, max 3, max 2, max 4 (maybe getting T1 4 earlier once you get EE)
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>>563300703
>stocks in everything but ultbot build up
you have to play the game now
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i like how people think the self-bomb is a good thing when he just kills himself faster now, the bomb is the worst aspect of his kit
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>be haze
>only cc is sleep dagger
>be warden
>root cc
>forces people to deplete stamina
>flask does dmg and takes stamina
>has shield
>movement speed
>haze small cone ult that can easily be kited
>unmissable cone ult with built in lifesteal
Why play "buffed" Haze over Warden again?
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After giving it some thought, decay might actually be a pretty good item for Apollo now that silence wave is gutted
>tanky target
>throw decay on them while spamming my spells
>by the time I've done my combo they should be low enough to ult
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>the Haze changes were a BUFF
Uh...
What the actual fuck!?
Surely this is some kind of data error, right?
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>>563300970
Can he deny himself
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haze main tears will keep me smiling all weekend
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I like the idea that Billy was a virgin before meeting Vyper and is the only woman he's ever been with
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turn on sv_pure
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>>563273797
Biggest skissue post ITT
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>When you kill that little stealing nigger Rem and a bag 5x bigger than his body pops out
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Victorbros and Vickysisters, how are we feeling?
Is our boy fun to play again?
I'm starting to think he might be...
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so last patch saved victor or he is still unplayable?
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I play melee haze and I always spin autisticly during ult (centrifugal force would make the bullets hit harder if the game had realistic physics) so my playstyle is arguably buffed but Yoshi is a dumb fuck retard and he should be forced to detransition at gunpoint
>nerf a character at the expense of their identity and common sense of how their abilities should act
>avoid nerfing other problem character or trying to tackle the root cause of how there isn't a reliable counter against infinite value m1 passives
>randomly buff grey talon (an already unfun character) so people have something new to complain about when metaslaves start spamming him
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>>563301348
He gained 8% winrate and is nearly a perfect 50/50 now, so I'd say he's probably the definition of "playable".
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>>563284972
Deadlock The Game-Mod Team
>Just to clear up a few misconceptions:

>Banter in a competitive game/sport of any kind is part of the culture. Slurs and insults are not, especially when based on bigotry.

>Toxicity is present in the majority of online games but that does not mean people have to accept that this will be the status quo in our community.

>Calling people who want to enjoy a match without insults "soft" does not make you look tough, it makes you look like a wannabe schoolyard bully who never actually played a team-sport where that attitude does not fly.

>Valve is ALREADY taking a similar path in Deadlock, there are bans for communication-abuse and report-spamming, as well as a Low-Priority Queue for griefers and leavers. You can also set language-filters via Steam Settings which will apply to Deadlock.

>Make sure to report bad actors in Deadlock AND on this subreddit.
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>>563301332
He's still f-tier
Sorry
Only gun carries are allowed.
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>>563300874
ok thank you bwo i will test that out
>>563301332
yes im having fun with him played until 6am, aura is good again and he scales well late game
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>>563301607
|>he doesn't know about gun victor
Go read the patch notes again.
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my lab partner just creampied me <3
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>>563301613
Holy shit, Victor NEEDS a skin like that...
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>dynamo is absolutely broken
>hardly anyone complains about him
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>>563301613
>That scar
I know that it's also on Victor's in-game model, but I'm curious what it means. I've seen the same scar on many undead enemies from Edmund McMillen's games.
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>>563301709
WOW A HOLE 1 BULLET DAMAGE SO FUCKING STRONG
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>>563298351
What purpose would a dilator serve if it was being rubbed on the neovagina and not inserted inside
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>>563294106
>>563295938
I like it. It's good when there's a lot of squishies. I was surprised how much total damage I ended up getting with it

Burst damage is an underrated factor when it comes to impact
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- Bebop: Grapple Arm now deals light melee damage (0.7 scaling)

CRUSHING
FISTS
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>>563301859
Standard autopsy scar
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>>563299949
>This is the guy who sucks Riot's cock and says that Riot's version of Deadlock will destroy Deadlock
Lmfao.
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>>563300289
She'll have tits when she gets her proper model
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>>563301845
Suffers from the og character syndrome. Haze and Seven are the same. Yes, people complain about them but not neraly as much as they should. I mean both forever have like 56% win rate if not 60% and top pick rate NO MATTER THE RANK (usually "noob heroes/carries" in MOBAs get pwned in higher ranks). They are objectively broken, busted characters no matter what stats Valve has and yet they do nothing about them. Only now grudgingly did Yoshi decide to change Haze ult and we will see if it will tank her win rate or not.

I doubt it because they buffed everything else so she's now basically the turbo M1gger hero meaning any sweaty Koreans with built-in auto-aim will stomp every game.
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>>563301992
extremely funny because riot can't even get their "mmo" (genshit impact clone) out of planning phase
haven't they scrapped the whole thing and restarted twice?
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>>563301859
It's a Y incision autopsy scar.
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>haze's ult no longer has a target limit, but instead hits literally everything in a 90 degree cone
This is an extreme buff if you aren't a brain dead retard.
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>>563302394
lol
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>rage can build through barriers now
THATS WHY I COULDNT FUCKING GET RAGE
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>>563296883
Depends how veil walker coding is handled. One thing I could imagine happening is if the game is checking your current position to the one during the previous frame and seeing if the line drawn between the two positions happens to go through a veil.

If that's the case then something that could absolutely happen is Doorman's position before and after going through a portal ends up going through a veil resulting in veil walker being triggered.
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>>563302394
all the fotm hazes were brain dead retards, anon
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Doorman is the old Techies of deadlock
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>>563302394
Good thing evety haze 1-trick is a brain dead retard, anon...
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>>563302394
>NO! NERFING YOUR ULT DMG BY 66% IS ACTUALLY A BUFF!
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>>563302394
>dash through the dash forcing her to turn 180 to hit you
>dash through her again
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>>563302394
>cone ability on an ability that was already easy to escape
>b-but bro you can multi hit people in it
I would rather have the non multi hit aoe haze ult and just slap ricochet than play this garbage.
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>>563302583
Bro, it hit 2 targets prior.
2.
If you can position it correctly with range items now it hits all 6 and every creep, which means your Ricochet goes batshit insane.

>>563302627
Oh no! Counterplay is possible!
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>>563302489
i was thinking it'd be more collision based but that actually makes sense and feels like something valve would do
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afterburn should have it's duration reduced by sliding and rolling on the ground
bleeds (drifter,shiv) can have their damage reduced if the target is standing still or not dashing
fixation should only apply on 1 enemy at a time (it's called fixation)
djin's mark should have a distance mechanic where is does less damage the closer you are to mirage (so for it to do damage, you have to stack it to max, then teleport across the map)
mina should have to confirm her lovebite by actually biting you
having sex with vyper incrementally builds up an immunity against her poison, toxic bullets can work the same way with the character who buys them
seven's power surge is balanced and honest and they should remove tesla bullets from the shop so only he can do it
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>>563302512
We need a techies ult hero who suicides for massive damage.
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>>563301845
He's strong as fuck but he does require a team that will damage the niggers he ults as opposed to Haze that could kill a whole team solo.
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well at least he's good
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>Haze presses 4 to turn into Graves with splitshot
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>563302781
retard its limited to 1 target even if you have 300 units in front of you.
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>>563301007
>Root versus Sleep
Anon..
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>>563301936
Why don't REM players have the same reputation of stupidity as Paige players?
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>>563303287
Don't argue with Hazeniggers
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>>563303330
Because troons play Paige, but real women play Rem.
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>>563303287
Sleep is a dog shit CC compared to the root. You shoot them once and they are back up.
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>>563303420
Enemy can dispel root but not sleep. Enemy can fight back during root. Apples and oranges but generally sleep is more powerful imo
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>>563303420
>haze player can't even conceptualize letting go of m1
it really just writes itself
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>>563303381
Proof?
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>>563302781
>le disneyland scenario cope which would have you kill every enemy with any ability anyway
You know with your logic a Dynamo with refresher can kill 6 people too.
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>>563301067
Haze has built in, infinitely scaling gun slowdown now. Her skill floor has plummeted, but her skill ceiling just skyrocketed
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>>563301939
>- Bebop: Grapple Arm now deals light melee damage (0.7 scaling)
>CRUSHING
>FISTS
Doesn't work on light melee only heavy
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>>563301007
>retard on 4chan solves deadlock, eternus players with 60% wr with haze are actually stupid and should play maybe the 5th best m1gga in the game
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>>563303740
Spirit Snatch then
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Sex with Yoshi for killing Haze onetricks
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>>563299478
I like Eido, he looks like he'd be a really cute twink ngl
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Mina is just an M1 hero
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>>563303774
Actually it does work just less and don't get bonus heavy melee damage
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>>563303579
If we are making Haze a pick hero I would rather have a root than a shitty sleep that my retarded team can ruin.
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>>563299478
Actual Chads only play gun and ball games on their PS5 for 1-2 hours a day
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>>563302394
>haze's ult no longer has a target limit, but instead hits literally everything in a 90 degree cone
are you retarded
this is not any different from how haze ult has always worked
it has never had a "target limit"
it either shot one bullet at one target at a time
or two bullets for two targets at a time
and when it does the latter, it's broken
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>>563303748
>he unironically thinks haze is still good
oh no no no
>he uses winrate statistics unironicaly
HAHAHAHA
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>>563303748
haze had 52% wr in eternus
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>>563303330
Rem has an absurd escape tool, so if you ever catch him behind the main fight he's going to jump into someone's ass and by that point if you clean him up after killing the rest of enemies it feels less like picking on a retarded support.
With Paige I have a collection of clips where she's just backpedalling or flat-out running away down the lane and me doing heavy melee after heavy melee into her ass until she dies.
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Summer skins when?
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>>563304102
They should of made it thinner but with more range desu.
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>>563304208
The minute valve gives Vindicta painted toenails is the minute I start maining her
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Support Vin
Yes/no?
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>>563304193
Paige players unironically the freest farm on the map.
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>>563304193
>me doing heavy melee after heavy melee into her ass until she dies
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>>563304159
>best players in the game could only manage a 48% wr vs the hero
Nerfs were extremely needed
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>>563304439
I buy a value rescue beam but that's it, you might as well take advantage of your positioning and extra item range
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>>563304102
Nice "gunkata" animations Haze faggots
M1gger menace reduced to a black woman flailing in front of you doing nothing
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What is the point of abilities like Abrams wall slam, ult, or Venator gut shot if they never give enough time for heavy melee and you get parried?
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>>563302394
Haze ult never had a target limit
>>563302781
>if every single person on the enemy team stands perfectly in a cone and is too retarded to move away then you'll go batshit insane!!!!
are you for fucking real you cant be this stupid
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Having fun learning mental terrorism doorman spots to mess around with in real games later. Some of them feel a bit too much though, i'd be worried about getting reported.

Here's a fun one
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>>563304439
I want to try scourge spirit burn sometimes maybe heal beam
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Haze did nothing wrong.
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I would main Vindicta if she was a little girl
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>>563304542
put duration extender on any and every stun ability
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>>563304643
What's the point in being able to see Doorman doors if I can't fucking do anything about it? You should be able to break them with heavy melees.
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>>563304560
it compliments the rest of her playstyle and benefits more from other items haze buys, encouraging her to play the game
the previous patch had haze players ignoring the game until their unstoppable ultimate powerspike and then pressing two buttons
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I would main Paige if she was a hot dude
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>>563304728
That works for abrams stun? I assumed it just made you charge longer
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>>563301067
>sleep dagger sleeps you for longer
>hits you for 700 damage
she's a proper assassin now
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>>563304754
Now that's an idea. Post it in the forum.
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>>563304837
Lash does what she does better unironically.
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>>563301067
dumbasses will still continue whining
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>>563304643
That's just straight up bug abusing.
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Is Graves still a brick?
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Haze homeless vros..
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>>563304994
Out of 10!
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>>563304774
It's both, that's why I buy carpet after DE.
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I had no idea it was air dash parrying people were using to punish meleeing creeps, my dumb ass was dashing in looking stupid a few times before I gave up
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I see Celeste is getting the Dark Seer treatment of getting nonstop nerfs
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>>563304930
There's much worse than that, here's a staircase no one can use until the Doorman player decides to allow them to.
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>>563304771
she already is anon
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>open twitch
>pick a russian streamer
>haze
>3x the networth of everyone in the lobby
>hardbass
>18 "QoL" mods
the memes were real cykaaa
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>>563304542
you need T2 in those abilities for it to combo into heavy melee, otherwise you only have time for a free light
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>>563305279
No bro me being able to see someone's unspent souls and player hitboxes is a QOL feature, stop discriminating against disabled folx.
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>>563305108
You mean Haze
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Aim assist mods in shooters are quality of life and if you disagree you're ableist
If you can't handle that the enemy Haze NEEDS mods to play half as good as you then you need to change your thought process
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no one makes these arguments
attacking a literal strawman you're making up in your head
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>attacking a literal strawman you're making up in your head
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>>563305438
If you were so good why did you piss your diaper about Haze ult for months?
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>>563290850
Free money is good. Its also far superior to trophy collector because its consistent and you can sell it later after farming with it.
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>>563305525
?
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>dynamo and mirage received slaps on the wrist
>graves silver and victor still need buffs or changes
>bebop and holiday's buffs are irrelevant
What was the point of this patch? Only good change was the haze nerf
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>>563305087
Thats very funny. Do you get de-carpeted if you take damage while flying?
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>>563305795
No..? Buy the fucking item.
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>>563305791
It wasn't good tho.
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>>563305791
did mirage even need to be gutted?
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counterspelling a targeted spell should reflect the effect back to the caster

doorman doors should be destroyable by the enemy with 1 heavy melee

not hitting anyone with stone form should immobilize you for 0,5 seconds

soul exchange is now true hp swap, instead of a damage/heal (you can heal the enemy if you misuse it)

knockdown now interrupts ice path and breaks the ice under you

tankbuster changed from 8% current hp to 10% max hp
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Hello everyone! I am a chronically ill, disabled, queer and neurodivergent person. I really want to find a small group of similar people who I can regularly play this game with.
I main Doorman, Rem, Graves, and Paige but I want to learn more characters.
I feel like I constantly run into issues where people just don’t know how to play the game and/or they aren’t willing to work as a team and/or are playing it like an FPS and not focusing on laning/farming.
I keep bouncing between Initiate IV, Initiate V, and Seeker I.
If you’re looking for a small group of similar people, please respond to this
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>>563305931
Of course he did, he's obnoxious. Not nerfed enough yet, either.
>>563305949
Being able to break doorman doors would be nice, the character is just so obnoxious to play against.
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>>563305916
I've never bought it before, that's why I'm asking!
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>>563305990
i only game with trans women if they are caged up
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>>563305791
Bebop is big but changes the way the hero plays which sucks, hooking is why I want to play him but they want Bebop to be a terrorist and sprint into crowds now
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actually you should be playing paradox because she's honest, and she's cute, and her jokes are funny
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>>563306360
ParaDORK
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braps on every kelvin player
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>>563301512
Yeah but he isnt s+ 57% win rate so he's actually unplayable garbage
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I brawled too hard..
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>>563306356
>but they want Bebop to be a terrorist and sprint into crowds now
They saw that Bebop players are feeder retards so they might as well get some use out of it
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>>563305990
Play Mo and Kirill
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>>563305279
>russian pig permanently on new accounts to play against new players while having thousands of hours clocked
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>>563306463
>Be Phantom
>Finally get my friends to play Deadlock
>They only play Brool
>Legit 4 hours a day of brooling, want to play things other than Deadlock
>Eventually notice I've brooled with friends so much I went back to Obscurus

What a curse.
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Sex with Obscurus players
Ranktards need not apply
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>nerf doorman bell and gun so kidnapping is the only way to kill people
>nerf kidnapping
>dont buff anything else
this character quite literally does nothing except CC now, what are they thinking
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>>563306960
Shitters mentally cannot handle being kidnapped so they bitched and complained
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>>563306960
bell still chunks for 400 damage and is piss easy to land
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When are they gonna add a bug/insect/arachnid hero?
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>>563307281
mina
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>>563307281
Mina and Pocket
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>>563307281
Mirage already exists. He is a turkroach.
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>>563307281
mirage
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>>563307250
bells do awful damage now and are harder to hit until you hit max level on them
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Holy baited
"A skilled fighter sacrifices something, that the enemy may snatch at it"
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>>563307387
he does look like he would do the ice cream thing to me
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>>563305405
WHY IS EVERYONE CHEATING ALL THE TIME ITS A FUCKING BIDEO GAME ITS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN
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>>563307482
They do not oneshot people anymore which is why doormen are malding. But valve has taken a lot of steps towards making it so that doing any combo is not a one shot
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>>563301067
>Everything but ult gets buffed
>Ult is actually better at killing one person than before since people behind and beside you don't count
I didn't really expect her to be any worse.
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>>563307482
7700
17600
33600
49800
Those are the earliest points you can max each of your 4 spells. If you want to fuck on people with bell you could easily do so.
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>>563307626
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>>563307486
life or 900 soul bag? Easy choice
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I added Haze to my roster, I like ganker heroes and she's a gank hero now.
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>>563307912
>cheating nigger russian on a vindicta
Name a more iconic match
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>>563307804
>>563307880
i implore you to try a match now with the current bell scaling and tell me they're not borderline useless. does nothing in lane, can almost do something mid-late game if you heavily invest into it. and he has nothing else now except for ult
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>>563307626
blessed image
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>>563304439
It's good, infact it's what you might be building most games if you don't need to be a hardcarry.
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>>563308226
>oh no my broken ability early game isn't broken late game!

you're a moron
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>>563304439
Unless you're doing amazing early or your team is drooling retards that can't kill anyone, you're supposed to be a support.
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>>563305143
>place door after lane phase
>unbind doorman door button
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>>563308176
Your mom on my dick.
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>>563308343
what are you even talking about? what ability does doorman have that's broken early game?
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this kamikaze bebop change is 100% getting reverted or making the self damage higher
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>>563305279
Yes, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP6FdVkyZNM.
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>>563307626
Me win
Me better than you
Cheats make me better than you
ez
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>>563308343
he literally said it does nothing in lane though
he's still good on lane but not nearly as good, and he's way worse than other gigabroken laners that are also gigabroken mid and late game
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>>563305143
>>563308528
You can door over juke closets and just not place a secone door to lock people inside.
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>>563293095
You guys said that about celeste and look what happened to her.
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This item seems crazy good. Why do only Shivs get it?
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>bells are useless!
>proceeds to miss every bell shot

its a skillshot sweaty and maxing at ap5 provides generous lifetime for you retards
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>ivy, kelvin and dynamo barely touched
>doorman gets invalidated by yet another 3200 item
Lol lmao
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>>563308226
You're arguing with ritualist players that are also just saying shit in bad faith.
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>>563308542
>>563308659
Africa of europe. Highest AIDS rate in europe.
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>>563308947
>doorman gets invalidated by yet another 3200 item
Don't worry, shitters who don't buy counter items will still rage about him
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>>563308930
projectile is so slow, anyone who cares enough to dispell it, WILL.
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>>563309086
I think doorman is fucking infuriating to play against because he mind controls my team to make the most baffling decisions ever, but out of all the support characters he's by far the worst one, I'm shocked they nerfed him so badly. I'd almost feel bad if I didn't hate getting kidnapped as well.
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>make character called DOORman
>make his kit involve map positioning, crowd control and macro
>repeatedly nerf the parts of his kit that allow that
>DOORman is just a aoe spirit spam character now
Brilliant
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>>563305405
>me being able to see someone's unspent souls
I genuinely don't get why you act like this is a huge advantage.
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>>563309224
an aoe spirit spam character with spirit aoes that do no damage btw
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>haze has 17 kills
>im the only one on my team that buys metal skin
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These Mirage nerfs are nothing. Tried him out and he's still a beast.
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>>563309224
He struggles to even keep with minion health scaling, most of the time it takes 2 bells to clear a wave.
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>>563309224
>be 60k lead with 21 kills / 0 deaths
>its my smurf account because... playing the 1% is actually ass? who knew
>enemy 25k doorman appears
>GET KIDNAPPED BY "THE DOORMAN"
>PROCEED TO GET CARTED INTO THEIR BASE
>"RREEEEEEEEEEEE HELP HELP WHY CANT I GET OUT OF THIS. THIS IS OP. THIS IS OP. HELP HELP THERE IS NOW COUNTER PLAY. THIS IS UNFAIR. UNFAIRRRRRRRRRRRR"

these are the screaming retards without map awareness and on adderal.
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>>563307486
>that Kelvin missed ult.

The cherry on top.
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>be vyper
>silver tries fighting me
>changes into wolf
>just slide backwards on a staircase as she walks in a straight line directly into me without even moving an inch
im starting to think the problem with silver isnt the character...
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>>563307486
>Geist just hiding with low health
Genuinely most dishonest bullshit ever
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how do you Lash?
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>>563309657
vyper is so sexy wtf
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>>563309457
>map awareness
wards doko
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>>563309327
You can glance at their wallet and determine they're going for a big buy and force fights before spikes. It's cheating.
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>>563309475
>dynamo comes in to save bebop but uses entanglement a second too late
>kelvin comes in to save dynamo but uses dome a second too late
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>>563309779
Couldn't you do that just buy looking at their items and not being a retard?
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>>563309087
It's funny to use it on ulted Ivy's and they just fly away from it effortlessly
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>>563309705
CHOOOOOOOOOOOSE
>epic big damage always in the air GROUND POUND stomp big damage
>vs
>ult bot
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Once again, ALL mods are cheating. All of them.
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>>563309327
Literally anything that isnt in the game that you can get using third party software is by definition cheating even if you could see how much time someone spent hitting boxes that'd be cheating how is having info you ARENT supposed to have not cheating?
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high definition Vindicta feet models and textures aren't cheating
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Hello I'd like some audio mods that give ults memorable music from video games
>Fuck you here are some tiktok memes lol!
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>>563309819
Yes just like you can track all camp timers in your head if you're not a retard. The fact the info is processed instantly as opposed to adding up item values might be a clue.
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>>563310064
ALL mods are cheats.
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why are new players with 20 hours in the game put into oracle?
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>>563309892
Almost everything people whine about cheating is shit you can easily do by just paying the slightest amount of attention or is info the game already gives you but is slightly less obtuse, like boss timers. The only thing that is cheating is outlines, camp timers, and hitboxes.
>>563310069
There's a clear difference between pressing tab and taking two seconds to look at your opponents items and deciding if you want to force a fight with them or not and keeping track of every single camp on the map and when they'll respawn. Camp timers is full on cheating because no human can reasonably do that no matter what skill they're at.

No little timmy, you didn't lose your ritualist game because tommy two timer can see your unspent souls.
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>>563310424
explain how putting the characters into bunny outfits is cheating
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>>563310603
>Almost everything people whine about cheating is shit you can easily do by just paying the slightest amount of attention or is info the game already gives you but is slightly less obtuse, like boss timers. The only thing that is cheating is outlines, camp timers, and hitboxes.
so then dont install them then shouldnt be that hard then
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>>563309224
I've played a few matches as Doorman today after the patch and i think you definetly have to just max bell now. I'm maxing bell, then cart then ult or door depending on game. It sucks because Doorman has four abilities that really want the final upgrade. Maxing bell and building around it makes you at least do good damage, cart only feels like a real ability at max level. Ult is also really good and i thought about just buying leap every game and going around ulting people but its too inconsistent since most people at my rank can easily escape the hotel. I love max doors and i think its by far the most fun final upgrade for any skill in the game, but at the same time the other upgrades are probably more necessary
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the enemy team has rejuv and we're down 30k
i'm thinking it's time for a brool in the jungle
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Would The Lash punch nazis?
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maybe because unspent souls IS resource and knowledge. i think if they wanted it in the game, it would be added as a feature or like a similar past hero. not mods for your scummy brain
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>>563310694
I don't, I just don't constantly whine about people who do.
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>>563310569
because oracle is shit
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>rawdogging cart into door kidnap is harder to hit than nearly any other skillshot in the game (needs a hard read and all planets in alignment for the map geometry to allow door placement work + a retarded enemy)
>vortex web (6400) allows it to work reasonably well against shitters
>cleansing the initial (6400) item with a (3200) item on reaction is too hard, make it so you can cleanse the entire stun during the entire duration and invalidate the only viable way to play the meme character
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>>563310928
who's constantly whining sounds like projecting desu
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>>563310692
If bebop has a geist bunny ear mod he'd have seen her over the sandbags here: >>563307486 , and that entire gank would not have happened.
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>>563310978
>who's constantly whining
but every day or so theres someone spamming "mods = cheats" posts
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>>563310692
It makes my peepee hard, thus distracting me.
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if you want to see unspent souls, outline, and hell why not amp the damage on them?, just wait for bounty hunter instead of cheating?
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>>563306356
>Bebop is big but changes the way the hero plays which sucks, hooking is why I want to play him but they want Bebop
It's so they can't dispell it and so you can time it for them to not counterspell it either
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>>563310987
Please direct me to the geist mod in question with bunny ears THAT huge so I may *ahem* report it to valve as damaging the integrity of the game thank you.
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>>563308947
what item invalidates doorman?
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>>563310824
>enemy gets rejuv
>enemy runs urn
>teammate on mic
>"guys they uhhhh have rejuv uhhh lets just play it safe yeaouhog uhuh like don't even fight unless you're under a tower uhhhh huhhhh"
>immediately tries to 2v5 mid
>immediately dies
you WHAT
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>>563306356
>He doesn't know the unreactable hook bomb strat.
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>>563311496
dispel magic counterspell silence wave knockdown focus lens and more
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>>563307486
most dishonest character in the game
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>>563311608
>dispel magic
>counterspell
explain? to stop the bell?
i thought the biggest value of doorman is the ult
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Have you guys considered that maybe doorman players deserved it for being faggots?
Just a suggestion.
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Imagine if dota 2 only had 30 characters to launch and for some odd reason icefrog releases earth spirit early. people would be crying nonstop for a complete rework on how earth spirit was made because.. well youre probably only fighting the same line up like 80% of the time which SUCKS

there just needs to be more heroes and LESS changes to their vision on a hero. but alas, im not faggot streamer or youtuber
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>>563307486
Most honest hero in the game. Literally just don't walk up next to a Geist that has ult up. Yes that includes you, William, trying to punch the low health Geist that's behind a veil
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>>563311171
make it Silence during the pull, or better yet remove dispel because it's hella gaaaay (in the bad way)
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>>563304923
retard
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>>563310692
it makes men and AGP troons play better, its literally performance enhancing mod
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>>563311716
you can dispel the cart now and counterspell it too also the explosion and the biggest value of doorman isnt the ult its being able to send people to china but doorman players dont do that the ult is good for removing a troublesome player from a match but other than that its whatever its better just to send them away desu
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>>563311921
This, coom mods are like athletes doing roids, it's an unfair advantage
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Do you guys do anything other than whine about things you don't like in the game in these threads and posting homosexual fanart?
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>>563312075
Only on Wednesdays.
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trannycords are getting uppity, again, about people calling out on them using "mods"
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>>563283994
>Victor needs his purge back
kys
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>>563312075
shut up bitch
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Just noticed that there's custom statuses for each of the heroes when in the hideout
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Remove dispel, i should be able to get bomb damage for free. this isnt fair, you have to take the 800+ damage bomb or im telling yoshi!
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>They/them Pocket abandons my lane to go gank another lane
>This is his stats 10 minutes in, with a 3v2 advantage
Allah strike down these feeder brooltards
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>>563312075
i only play after workdays and shitpost on my days off
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>>563312304
>HIS stats
uhmmmmm?
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how long until movementlets get movement tech removed?
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>>563311784
someone said it before but all of the Deadlock heroes we have now are basically ability draft abominations from Dota
imagine if we didn't take 13 years of development and balancing, only to summarily throw it into the trash and just do... whatever
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>>563312392
Never, because I like it even if i cannot grasp the full concept. It is the sole reason for map changes alone, thank you for your understanding.
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>>563312524
people said celeste was immune until today.
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>>563311784
This why did we slow down on experimentation and new features to buff and then nerf and then buff and then nerf Dynamo over and over again
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>>563312392
the only movement tech i hate is that source engine jank slop about releasing W for air speed and control. but they'll never remove it because "its iconic"
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>>563312469
someone also said hard part of the balance in this isnt just simply porting heroes into the game and hope for the best, but the fact we are in a whole new space to play. probably why yoshi likes making changes to his game and something he hasnt done himself before which he is clearly 1000% interested and invested in.

Lash/Seven are a few of his a great example of this and probably one of his favorites that helped inspire the new planescape to work with
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>tfw you're on a ganker character and you quickly find out it's one of those fucking games where you will lane janny for 20 minutes before you fade into late game irrelevance
I wish people would just kill the damn creep waves instead of engaging in 5 minute long poking contests on mid. It's either have shrines or have fun in pisslow.
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>>563302512
I miss old techies. Them and dps Omniknight were the only reason I played DOTA
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>>563312958
This is half of my silver games, the carry players REFUSE to sidelane and I have to lane janny while they brool in mid dying to a fed apollo.
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mm fucked right now? two games now someone hasn't connected
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>>563312392
hopefully sooner rather than later
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>>563313151
It's been fucked for about 2 months now, bro.
Where have you been?
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>>563312575
and still owning silently
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>>563313247
fucked more than usual
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>>563313253
is this real???
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>haze 1 tricks ass annihilated and shitting up the genny
LMAO
M
A
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>>563310987
>>563311339
Speaking of, where are all the hat tower "skins" that would make people visible on the skyline from across the map at all times?
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>no graves buffs
shant be reinstalling
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>>563309659
deadlock needs dagon so we can get the old cancer terrorblade build going
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>>563313714
imagine the smell
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>>563307250
When in the fuck are bells "chunking" for 400 damage aside from when the same build you'd be hitting for 1k with any other character
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>all those celeste nerfs
lmao yoshi really got offended by that one meme huh
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>>563313983
2 minutes into lane
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>kelvin's dome is IMPENETRABLE!!!!!111!!!
>except for the dozen spells that can penetrate it for free
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>>563314150
list them
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>>563314183
Rem sleep
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>>563313876
considering midas and armlet are in the game, i'm surprised dagon isn't lol
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>>563314183
paige ult, dynamo's fuck bullshit 2
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>>563280375
>if i make a new account it instantly throws me in one of the highest ranks
Not the own you think it is. The ranking system is broken. Emissary has people fighting over bridge buffs at 5 minutes exactly and also people who never fight over urn.
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>>563308659
Of modern Russian music, I prefer witchhouse.
https://youtu.be/K6DEcVV3Lds
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>>563312892
>the fact we are in a whole new space to play
and that would be fine if they were approaching balance and design with that mentality, but really it feels like they're just slapping things together from Dota or other games
it's a situation of trying to re-invent the wheel, except the wheel is actually meant to do something other than be a wheel, and we don't really know how wheels work so we'll just wing it and hope for the best...?
thematically and mechanically it appears very flawed and uninspired
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I can't stop gooning to Mina...
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>>563313913
Beautiful, I know.
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>>563313876
All the CC items do damage in the game. Dagon would just be repetative
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When are we getting a pure solo q im sick of getting put against obvious duos in lane.
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>>563314573
Can't wait for her string bikini skin
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>>563314573
that is a male
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When should you stop depending on builds as a noob? I have no idea what to buy and just autobuy a build.
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>>563312958
hey I respect those poking contests on mid, at least they aren't afk farming right next to a lane and still letting the enemy waves push into our walker because they have to get that one extra creep that will give them less souls than the fucking waves.
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>>563314969
Build for what you need at that moment, not for how the ideal demands
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>>563314969
unironically play 500 brool matches
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>>563314969
i don't think there's necessarily a cut-off point. you should familiarize yourself with the fundamentals of the game (the three different item types, what most of the common ones do), and how you're performing in certain fights and reactively buy new items based on that. it's a game knowledge muscle you need to flex, not a threshold you pass
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>>563312958
This kind of shit is why I've accepted it's just not possible to climb solo queue unless you just high prio meta M1 carries. Like what can I actually do in a game where I'm on a spirit nuker and yellow is constantly shoved because the matchmaker gave me a single M1 character but the dude playing just runs it down mid for is 0-7. That shit isn't winnable.
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>>563314969
The best builds are the ones that give you a lot of options to choose from rather than going L->R with nothing else
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>seven trying to solo push lane
>ult him as drifter
>goes apeshit on all chat and says its a waste
>he bases because of it (?)
>do to him every time it gets off CD because its a 50second CD
>endless salt
im going full CD ult build with refresher from now on that shit is funny as fuck.
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>>563314969
I'm 800+ hours in and I still use public builds, but only as a guideline. I usually end up heavily modifying them to fit my preferences.
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>>563315470
the real secret to gaining MMR is to just absolutely demoralize and tilt the enemy carries. retards here thinking you have to go carry every game to climb up meanwhile I got to phantom by simply getting 4 actives on whatever character i get and sending their most fed target to gay baby jail
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>>563315470
Don't forget to get arcane surge and proc it before using your ult, that + superior duration and it lasts like 14 seconds.
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>>563314969
unironically just build L>R unless you absolutely need to counterbuy someone
you can still build offensively with something like Witchmail, or buy Actives to lock them down
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>>563314969
Don't autobuy you will never learn what the items are, even a few seconds of reading will familiarize yourself with stuff over time
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>>563314969
I stopped using builds after 50 hours only ever make my own. Usually you need anti-heal, space for dispell, a disable like slowinghex/knockdown then you wanna hit the 4.8k powerspike around minute 10-15 other than that you're free to build how you like.
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people keep jumping around, making all my melees miss them
what item solves this issue
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>>563305949
>tankbuster changed from 8% current hp to 10% max hp
no
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>>563316191
>what item solves this issue
None, melee abilities and hard CC are the solution, so abrams stuns, billy's skills and silver(3 melee abilities)
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>>563314969
E6 players still use other peoples' builds because the best players in the game are that much better than everyone else. It's literally pic rel. Good builds give you a basic core that the character almost always wants and then optionals depending on how the match is going/what your comp is/what the enemy comp is/playstyle preference. Unironically just follow builds by the top players, especially ones who stream because you can watch them play and change their buying habits on the fly so you can get a feel for what makes them prioritize certain items in certain matches.
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I'm getting try not to kill yourself challenge lobbies now what the fuck. Actual people who are afraid of the guardian like dude just dash in and parry WHAT THE FUCK
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>>563316191
stop playing melee because it's COOKED
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>>563316559
>Enemy duo are both 30% hp pushed up to guardian but your lane buddy at 100% hp wants to punch boxes instead???
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>>563316191
i have the opposite problem where i jump around and also parry, and my parries would work if i wasn't jumping around like a spastic so it actually works against me
>>563316559
i went 3-9 last night and almost uninstalled on the spot, at one point i saw my GT spending 45 seconds clearing a T3 jungle 20 minutes into the match
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I love jumping about as Graves and dodging all the bullshit and punches on the ground level
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>>563314969
like other said builds are used by good players, I'd just recommend not using quick buy, the time saved isn't worth not taking a moment to look over your options when you're still learning. Depending on your hero it's good to know different possible builds; viscous is shit rn but he's an example where you might want to play splatter if you have a m1 heavy lineup or punch if you already have a lot of spirit, these are decisions you need to make in the first minute looking at both teams drafts
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Who is the potato of deadlock?
Victor?
Abrams?
Mo and Krill?
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>>563317346
Yamato
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>>563316647
passive lanes make me tilt so hard
i come from HotS where everyone is on a hair trigger and always itching for a fight, so it makes me fume when people don't see the obvious pick and trundle off to go PvE or PvFurniture

>>563316690
real talk why do t3s suck so much
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>>563317490
>>563317490
>>563317490
>>563317490
>>563317490
NEW
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why didn't they just actually make haze ult into reaper ult instead of this
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>>563316647
boxes give more souls than a lane kill, unless (you) have been feeding them
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>>563314332
so, the abilities that go through everything?



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