>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>563252062
UH, ALL THE IXIAN PEOPLE OR IGGERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OFF THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE ITS FOR WHITE PEOPLE ONLY, UNDERSTAND, CAUSE IF YOU DON'T I WILL MAKE IXIANS SLAVES AGAIN!!!
SILVER IS FUCKING WORTHLESS
Sex with Venator
>>563273523STOPSHE'S A POOR LOST SOUL SEARCHING FOR MEANING IN A HARSH CRUEL WORLDCUT HER SOME FUCKING SLACK
>>563273458What I don't get is how people have memed her up as some early game stomper when she has the worst minion clear ever. You can't even confirm minions kills most of the time.
>>563273520ummm racism isn't cool, Lash...
>It's another episode of silvercucks copingAt least they're not talking about dog dicks and dog vaginas
>>563273634Her harass and early burst is exceptional
>majestic leap bebop is back
My Deadlock hot take:All movement, stamina shit etc. has to be utterly nerfed across the board. High level games being all about tranny speedrun parkour bullshit where even the slowest, 2 stamina characters can cross the map in 30 seconds is not how the game should work and makes macros impossible to balance.
>>563273520The only Ixian that is actually black is Infernus. He is so black his melanin overrides the default red/blue skin tone of the Ixians.
>>563273797Dota is still there. You don't have to play a game you just don't like at the core, you can literally just go back to your low skill expression ASSFAGGOTS.
>>563273725I'm gonna share a little secret. Every endgame hero has good early burst too. Except victor but he's homeless right now.
>>563273797I already said this multiple times.>Remove vents>Stamina regen nerfed 20%>Zipline speed slowed>Map size increaseAs is everyone is everywhere at once and positioning barely matters.
>>563273797I think they should patch out the more niche movement tech like edge/cornerboosting, but everything else is fine
>>563273713She deserves the whip but all she will get is the Lash.
>>563273797fix the map geometry or get rid of edgeboostskeep everything else
why didn't seven get nerfed?not bitching since i play him but i was expecting something.
>Geist nerfedit's over...
>>563273717>At least they're not talking about dog dicks and dog vaginasunfortunately
>>563274049He’s honest
>>563273797>lower the skill ceiling i don't want to learn the gameGay take senpai>>563273725You're replying to a silverfag anon, they'd rather say that heroes like graves/seven/shiv are secretly good at the early game then admit they're bad. All they do is complain and ask for buffs and then when they feel particularly retarded they'll ask for all movement across the game to be nerfed into the ground because they don't want to chase or fight or do anything fun
>>563274137>You're replying to a silverfag anon,I AM a silverfag, I'm allowed to reply to those if I want
make return fire a 6400 item that returns 100% of the damage received, spirit and bullet damage
>>563273378I need the skins now yoshi
How it feels to be in a losing game and holding off on berating the absolute shitter on your team because you're trying to be a changed man
>>563274049>why didn't seven get nerfed?Because>not bitchingNo one is complaining about him, he has a fatter stun then ivy that is easier to land and his balls do more damage, but no one complains about them so it must be fine, same as for the WR, which is only brought up selectively.TLDR:- bitch more if you want nerfs, stay silent if you want him to remain OP
>>563273930>>>niche
>>5632740490% comp pickrate
>>563274287This exact post, but instead of the number '6400', '3200' instead
straight slitherin my shit I got lotion on my shit
>>563274545model update whenat least she's not sinclair i guess
>>563274287Not worth it unless i get 10% of both resists, and it has to state that it deals the damage back PRE resistance calculation, so if i take 1000 and my resist cuts to 500, they take 1000 and THEIR resist cuts it to 900 or something
>cultist sac is a mandatory item againWhat did they mean by this?
>>5632745852030 when they finally release the final sinclair deluxe early supporter skin
>>563273797BASED and 100% correct. I really hope they fix all the movement bugs.
Oracle is the true shitlow cesspool. Holy shit the match quality is horrendous.
>>563274792It doesn't get better in Phantom or Ascendant or Eternus in case you're wondering
>>563274832Well at least I can shitstomp like half the games still.
>>563273819idk, red is kinda bad color...
>>563274628>wait 5 minutes to get an extra 300 souls and an irrelevant buff that will go away and needs to be recharged???
>enemy apolllo>no one get slowing hex>I got apollo>5 of enemies got slowing hex
they nerfed haze and victor who the fuck am i supposed to play???
>>563274350This no ones complaining about Paige and she never gets nerfed
>>563274792Does it get any better in oracle than archon? Im in archon V atm
>actually have to aim haze ult nowFucking finally. It took them this long to realize how retarded that ult was.
>>563275440Ivy!
>>563275001bro your 3x warp stone length parry that bypasses slowing hex??
>>563275539Literally the same shit
>>563275602that is hot as shit but she needs aiming and stuff
>>563273797Yeah the edge boosting should not exist at all.
>>563275539LOLSome eceleb recently created a new smurf, lost all 7 games and still ended up in oracle somehowSo no it won't get better.
>>563275767Why are those matches only 8 and 9 minutes long
>>563274792You faggots have no idea how bad actual shitlow players are. I would slaughter a baby seal to skip past emissary and archon and just play oracle games.
>>563273797Real. They should also slow down movement of the reticle because all the flicking shit is cancer and give characters turn speed stat so you're not able to spin 360 instantly
us alchemistGAWDS love wallowing in the shitlow mud unlike you FAGGOTS
>>563275917This has to be shitposting. Giving aim assist to every hero makes sense, your suggestion is just pantsu on head retarded.
>>5632758427, 8 and 9they have to be abusing matchmaking to go against another premade to lose against, that's crazy
>paige tranny on team>immediately dies twice>rages in vc in his "female" voice>tell him ywnbaw and to an hero>rage quits and abandons>match will not be scoredfeels good lmao
THEY DO LOTS OF THINGS
>>563276335And then everyone clapped
glad to work with someone whos a team player!
>>563276335dont bully your tranny paiges...
>Haze: Bullet Dance targeting is no longer a full radius around the hero, but instead is a cone in the direction you are aimingLmao, get fucked.
Took em out!
Return Fire needs an upgrade that just makes it Blademail.
We make a great team.
I see Bebop !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>563276692why yes i want everyone to build return fire like they do in dota
>>563276335And then every chud on the planet bowed down and crowned you the new Chud King
>>563251123>emissary is technically "good"lol, also way too many people in Oracle.
>Paradox: Time Wall width increased from 7.5m to 8m>Paradox: Time Wall height increased from 3.5m to 4mWow thanks Yoshi, my cosmetic effect is now slightly larger. Very cool.
Tell me forced loss doesn't exist. Again. First fucking match after getting to Ritualist. INSTANTLY.
WHY DO THEY NERF ALL THE COOL HEROES AND LEAVE HARD TO PLAY ONES OP
>>563276917It will keep going up by 0.5 every patch until it covers an entire lane
>>563276951>get silver on team>loseMany such cases
>ritualist
>>563273378The last few patches have made me realize I just want to play a fast objective-based FPS and all the CC AOE cancer is what needs to goSeems like Icefrog's got the opposite opinion, however.
>>563276951And of course i get bumped down back to Arcanist. EVERY FUCKING TIME. Forced fucking loss.
>>563277058So TF2?
>>563276917can't double jump over it anymore
>>563276951Silver!Trying her best!!Cute!!!
i will be queuing rem
>>563276448I dont even play Haze and I think its dumb. The particle effect better match the cone so it doesnt end like Abrams succ before the buff.
>>563273378Good night helper.
>Doorman: Luggage Cart no longer stuns enemies, just immobilizes/movement controls them (this means you can use dispel magic to get off)>Open the game>It still stunsHuh?
>>563276951based bebop
>>563277269The CART doesn't stun you, anon. The wall impact still does.
Real haze players would admit that the nerf puts her in a better spot, boosted monkies the opposite.
>>563277317Oh, okay. That's an interesting change.
>>563276951I dont get it , you picked silver. That means you gave up control of the match to Yoshi because your hero is literally useless and doesnt do anything
>>563277281if you don't have at least 10 deaths from self-inflicted bomb damage, are you even playing Bebop properly?
>>563277269The cart no longer works like Hook. This stops Doorman for dumping duration on the cart so you're stunned all the way until you hit a wall.
>>563277269>>563277317Oh thats a yikes. Good thing I'm a bell thrower chud so this doesn't affect me.
>>563276374>>563276827kek seethe and dilate >>563276448she needed the nerf but that's not even the real nerf. The real nerf is removing the +1 target from her max ult. -50% dps lol. Haze is just a troll pick outside of shitlow
did doorman really need nerfs
>>563277319>your ult damage got nerfed by 66% when only part of ur kit that does anything is ult>this is a buff
>>563277578I decided I personally dislike him, so yes
>>563275917this. Also put the players camera further away and from a higher angle so you can see more of the fight, ideally a bird's eye view
New player, is viscous supposed to deal 0 damage late or am i just complete trash
>>563277852you're asking why a support does no damage late game
Nerf all the slow down shit Kelvin has and to compensate make him unparriable inside the dome.
how did this disgusting fucking kelvin character go basically untouchedjesus christ>>563277852spirit heroes generally fall off late game3-centric viscous should fare better in that department, but nearly as good as a real M1 carry
who writes this shit
>>563276448Good, low skill characters deserve to be bad
>>563278118me
>>563276448>press 4>up mouse sensitivity to 1 gorillion>spin 300 times per millisecond>ult unnerfed, buffed evenget fucked
Who are the best characters for focusing on objectives when my shitass team fights and dies nonstop? Like inting sion from league
>>563278118acceptance of fanfiction was a disaster for storytellingsevenchu type ass shit
>>563278118Me and I'm proud of it
>>563278118He
haze's win rate is literally untouched
>>563278336>acceptance of fanfictionBy whoNobody accepts fanfiction
>>563278327infernus/mcginnis/wraith
>>563277896Most top builds make you build spirit instead of support items, i unironically didnt know
none of my teammates ever want to be in their faces so we can win with kelvin dome
>>563278118He's a character from back when Sweet Baby Inc was consulting those retarded devs and you have shit like tranny Pocket etc.
patch looks kinda dogshit nglwe're all agreed not to bootup the game, right ?
>>563278484most top builds are unironically griefing-tier for most characters, they really need to do something about that entire page
>>563273797>being all about tranny speedrun parkour bullshitthere are e6 players who dont even know the movement techs you're just shit
>>563278327Infernus is probably the best one. You just push a sidelane and if someone ever comes to challenge you just flame dash away.Just watch for slows/silences and buy dispel magic/slow resist accordingly.
>>563278493>kelvin domes low health targets and then laughs at me as my owl hits the domehow dare you...
>>563278775Have been since january
>nerf haze>but buff victorWe can't ever win, can we?
>>563277921>compensate make him unparriable inside the dome.>compensateanon..
>hollidays buff was that she doesnt have recoilWhat are they doing
>>563276951Game gets good 60 minutes in trust me bro
Spirit Paradox is lowkey fun (in brool)
>>563278469>>563278869alright, i'll give him a chance
>>563277578No but he's anoying as fuck to play against.
>>563278118It hits that sweetspot of the horseshoe where it goes from cringe to based.
>>563278493This is why 90% of pub kelvins only use it to save themselves btw.
>>563279083we love paradox in this thread
>>563279481>esportsslop aimfag characternah
>>563279083I wish I wasn't terrible with her and I'm not willing to chain lose games to improve.>>563279045>Make character easier to usewhy
>>563277921Gut Kelvin's ice path or give it some counters and Kelvin is fixed. Sure, the ice laser is annoying and spammable but there's more niggerish run-down abilities than it, but it's the ability to fly for free forever without any downsides of flying like being suspectible to having an anvil dropped on you that makes him annoying.
>>563278327IVY PUSHES AND WINS
>>563278118This backstory should get the cinematic treatment
>>563277578Doorman will be nerfed to the ground, even when he's weak.Everything that makes him unique will be taken away or made pointless.All because shitters find him "annoying".Just accept it.
>>563279602Who the fuck cares about recoil she has other problems, just slightly buff her damage on barrels and she's gonna be B tier. It's a nothing change once again and once they properly buff her all of it is gonna add up and make her S tier.
>>563278327>>563279207Godspeed Anon.
>>563279726you vill learn the roblox obbyin fact make his t3 that you can load a customized baroness layout that you make pre-match
>>563278327anyone btu seven really
>>563277578God forbid a character having the ability to lock down a single opponent.
>>563278327Anyone but graves
i swear every genny about a game with pvp will have people complaining about the better players and how theyre gay and tranny>>563273797>lower the skill ceiling of the game because im bad at the gamedeadlock is inherently a movement game. im sorry youre too senile to learn new skills
>>563279825>customized baroness layout that you make pre-matchI feel like this is way too open to abuse, depending how the customization it would work.I do however like the idea of being like 50+ possible ones that it randomly chooses, and make it somehow still work with Sinclair so people still end up in the same baroness.The current baroness is solved, you can either make it or you can't because you are slowed/out of stamina
>>563279726Good fuck doorman
>>563273797Big agree. It's the same thing with a lot of the CS/valorant "tech" where "people" (nolife trannies with 1000+ hours on the game) cry MUH SKILL EXPRESSION as if it takes skill to practice a game so much that the janky behavior inherent in a particular game engine becoming muscle memory takes anything but time investment. It's like learning fucking L-cancelling in melee or any of other degen tech that """high skill""" (read again; NO LIFE FAGGOTS) can do in their sleep.Retards will tell me to git gud, but actual examples of skill would be shit like gamesense, reacting to things, strategizing, etc. etc. etc.I guarantee, in these autist-infested games, if they just started adding completely arbitrary retarded mechanics that only rewarded nolife sweats who practice them for hours you'd get a huge vocal minority defending it.For example: Imagine they added in a mechanic wherein you could input the konami code exactly at 52 seconds on the minute clock every minute of the game, and get a 1000hp shield and +50% damage for 5 seconds - but it only works if you spin around 3 times while doing it and you have to do the whole code within the first 1/3 of that second. That example is basically an autistic freak test. Do you think that sounds arbitrary and retarded and obnoxious to add to the game? Congrats you're normal. Do you think that sounds really cool? You're an autistic NEET (at best) with speedrunner optimization brain and most likely a tranny or will troon out soon enough.
>>563275885how come youre stuck there? like if i make a smurf ill instantly land on oracle+. youre not actually good and deserve your rank
>>563280125>gay and trannyWell, they are.I'm not for removing skill ceiling from this game, but god dammit every time I open a steam or a video of this game is some tweeny low test voice.Maybe this is the unfortunate Marvel Rivals heritage.
>>563279737>Who the fuck cares about recoilMe I enjoy shooters. Also Skissue.
>>563278280nigga the only reason why haze ult did anything was the multitargeting. that shit makes her ult DPS retardedwithout that the ult is back to being fairly mid. it is better though now that you can kinda select targets with it
Every time I hear pocket go "NO MORE GAMES" I instantly think of that stupid ps3 songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS2LJ9OSPUgI think I got the tism
Haze sucks now and there is no other character who can 1v6 like her and its impossible to climb now with shitters. Shit game DROPPED!
So anyone tried gun Paradox yet? I'm curious if the gun damage buff actually makes a difference.
>>563280621bro your wraith?
>>563278493>enemy Kelvin domes me>my Sinclair domes too>Im stuck inside the two bubbles>both of them laugh in chatI love this dumb ass moments.
Am I the only one that thinks that the doorman nerfs do nothing? I don't understand why you people are complaining his kit is completely intact and debuff removing the cart is honestly no different than counter spelling it and that's counter play that's been in the game from the start.
>>563280668bro your seven?bro your mirage?bro your dynamo?
>>563280587>buys ricochet like you already did literally 100% of the timewoah... wow......
>>563280703>Wraith ult can only kill 1 person>BLACK>Can't kill jungle as fast as Haze with RicoNo
>>563280621You can 1v6 on any character in the game if you actually aren't in the rank you deserve to be in. Keep coping faggot.
>>563280748Because he is overall in a shit spot right now and his only impact on the game is inconsistent kidnapping shenanigans, makes no sense they'd nerf him at all especially without compensation buffs regardless of how small the nerf is.
>>563280851ricochet wraith is literally faster farmer but if you go that instead of capacitor ur mentally retarded
>>563280858>1v6>play supportYou are retarded and I am higher rank than you.
>>563280740As a Sinclair I've managed to intentionally ven-diagram a Billy mid ult before with the double dome.It didn't achieve that much in the fight but it felt good man
>>563280454is this the reason you refuse to learn movement?
>>563273378they do lots of things
enoughpost 'em
>>563280924Her ult still can't kill 6 people and I don't want to play a nigress make her white and I might consider.
>>563278327>inting sionWasn't Nasus a better "just sit in lane and keep pushing it until you win" character?I haven't played League in ages though.
>>563280945nta but if youre actually better than the rank youre at youll just statistically win more matches. theres literally nothing else to this. any good player can make a smurf and climb at a ridiculous pace so whats stopping you
>>563280364>actual examples of skill would be shit like gamesense, gamesense, and gamesenseactual examples of skill would be aim, movement, gamesense. redefining skills that you don't like as "autistic tech you need to grind 1k hours to learn" is retarded and reeks of shittery. and what skill doesn't just take time investment? that's the definition of a skill. you practice it and get better at it. that's italso deadlock movement is not hard lmao. you don't need 1k for the essentials. and of the essentials, none of it is extremely niche or requires high APM. 99% of it just timing and knowledgethe emissary posting is getting out of hand
>>563280243Baroness should be less of a "skill" jump puzzle and more of a labirynth that's randomized every game. If you drop it early on someone they will solve it and will easily go through late game, would also be funny to have a friend use comms mid-teamfight to guide you when Doorman hits you for the first time.
>rem on enemy team>builds support items and has impact>rem on my team>gun remEVERYFUCKING TIME
so am I supposed to play brool to learn new characters or something?
>>563281486Game is dead. Yoshi killed it.
>>563281486>>563281674They should have buffed Silver...
>>563280364>cry MUH SKILL EXPRESSION as if it takes skill to practice a game so much that the janky behavior inherent in a particular game engine becoming muscle memory takes anything but time investment.good thing you dont have to play with these players as you can just play with other life havers at a lower rank :)
>>563281030
>>563280839has to be bait2-target haze ult more than doubles your DPSricochet does not double your DPS
>>5632816743 dogshit balance patches in a row might hurt the game bitnow they are buffing flying heroes forgetting thats what killed the game first time
Doorman should have up to 6 charges on his ult.
so what are our honest thoughts about this patch
>>563281326I would like it if wall jumping didn't have some retarded 1.5 second cd ruins the fluidity. Also fuck parry mechanic most troon mechanic in game.
>>563282027>graves m1 still uselessits shit
>>563282027worst patch notes i have ever seenhaze should have been untouched, geist/kelvin/dynamo/mirage should have received bigger nerfsrem/holliday should have gotten big buffs
if you're far away enough you can cast wall or nade when you swap, but if you're close enough paradox tweaks outwhat is this game
>>563282027its ASS
>>563282027Other than the haze nerf which was predictable, everything else doesn't seem to matter.They need to go back to adding characters.These patches are not enough to keep interest in the game long term.
>>563282027not sure how to feel about the haze ult "nerf", but her ancient echo shard sleep dagger meme build is back on the menu.doorman's changes only affect high ranks. his kit remains in the weird purgatory of being both oppressive and shitty at all other skill levels.I like the victor buffs but they aren't enough and probably in the wrong direction
>>563282059i'm alright with itout of the >>563282208you can't cast abilities during the swap, but you can during the window between throwing it out and the swap landing. so at close ranges the swap lands sooner, locking you out of your abilitiesif you have any amount of distance though you should be able to throw nade or wall out. instant cast or death
>>563282483vampires don't fart
>Spam Billy every game>During lane have everyone is a fucking parry ninja, have to feint 4 times to even hope to ever land a heavy melee>As soon as the game passes 15 minutes a switch flips in everyone's heads and they forget that the parry button even exists and I can safely spam heavy melees in every fight and never get punishedWhat is the cause of this phenomenon?
>>563282918>heavy meleeing on billyYeah no shit people dont parry in initiate
>>563281112the specific strat was a lot faster so enemy did not have time to build up their strength
>>563282918Abrams is better
Is archon truly the pinnacle of elo hell? How am I getting teammates that don't care about bridge buffs, don't care about sinners sacrifice, don't care about spirit urn, don't care about midboss, or souls, and play purely for k/d while the other team steamrolls objectives, free farms our jungle and steals our sacrifices and become unstoppable soul gods
>>563283015They don't parry in fucking oracle
>>563283420This game is just really bad at properly ranking skill.It has a built in ranking system for every match and it refuses to use it, considering only win and loss when you have 11 other people on the lobby that can and will just grief either team.
>>563283626Unironically only time I ever start ranking up is when I start losing
>>563282027Steps in the right direction, though the strongest needed more nerfs and the weakest needed more buffs. Mirage shouldn't heal at all from the scarabs, the dps can be base 10 for all I care. Holliday needs more damage and scaling on the barrels and Victor needs his purge back. Geist's ult upgrades need to be way weaker and the cooldown decrease should be either T2 or T3 upgrade. Apollo needs his Riposte to only trigger from frontal cone damage, he can be given more damage scaling for his 1 as compensation.
>>563282059>>563282629oh wowout of the ways you can balance/limit repeated wall jumps, i think the current fatigue system is pretty solid>>563282918mental stackin lane and in lane fights you're thinking about very few thingsin bigger skirmishes and teamfights there's so much shit going on that it's easy for "be ready to parry" to fall off the stackin lane making them flinch by sneaking in light melees unpredictably is probably the best way to land heavy melees
>>563284097The walljump "nerf" doesn't fit a fast action paced game like this I don't want to wait for some tranny 1.5 second mechanic thats what the other anon was getting at it should be intuitive not some stupid redditor bullshit like that.
I can't believe Yoshi made Jihadibop a reality.
why the fuck is cuckbop so hard to balance
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1si6wn2/harassment_and_physical_threats_towards_female/Can you guys like, not?
>>563284935>Why is a hook hero hard to balanceIdk
>>563284972Just to clear up a few misconceptions:Banter in a competitive game/sport of any kind is part of the culture. Slurs and insults are not, especially when based on bigotry.Toxicity is present in the majority of online games but that does not mean people have to accept that this will be the status quo in our community.Calling people who want to enjoy a match without insults "soft" does not make you look tough, it makes you look like a wannabe schoolyard bully who never actually played a team-sport where that attitude does not fly.There is also this idea that Valve "does not care" about online abuse, which is demonstrably untrue; They have invested a lot into Replay-Review Systems and Dota 2 features a sophisticated Behaviour Score-System which will gradually remove communication privileges or your ability to pause the game, based on your conduct towards others.Valve is ALREADY taking a similar path in Deadlock, there are bans for communication-abuse and report-spamming, as well as a Low-Priority Queue for griefers and leavers. You can also set language-filters via Steam Settings which will apply to Deadlock.Make sure to report bad actors in Deadlock AND on /vg/.
>>563284972>Not laughing at him admitting to have a micropenisWomen can't bantz at all.
>>563283420i'm low ascendant but i have a smurf that i use to fuck around on with friends and meme builds and i can tell you right now you aren't as good as you think you are and every game is carryable in archon.people are not that good down there.
Why do people not run backstabber on Bebop especially now>Hook counts as light melee and procs backstabber>Uppercut counts as light melee >Bomb them>Early game 400-500 damage combo not counting you actually shooting them afterwards
>>563284972wtf are these cheating mods, theres also a HP bar right in front of your screen
>>563285290>the gender that gets coddled isn't used to slinging insults especially to the opposite genderyou're brown btw
deathy just ddoss'd me ama
when do you think we'll get the next major patch?summer?
>celeste spent more time hitting jungle creeps than actually playingI love when the game gives you an anchor so you have to work extra hard to win against retards.
>wave is halted because one enemy minion got stuck in some random awkward elevated placefunny this shit wasn't fixed yet
>>563286312September after los vacaciones
>>563286324>initiate 2ur not that guy bro
>>563284972this is what redditors think harassing a ""woman"" is likethis entire interaction is fabricated for outrage and upvotes trying to ape the legit post of the tranny getting laughed at
>>563286312End of summer or Sept like that other anon said.
>>563286598that's oracle...
>>563282027I didn't see the word Silver in it enough so I got bored and stopped reading
Which one of you was this lol
>>563282027Haze getting killed is funny, Doorman didn't deserve the nerfs since I don't think he was 50% win rate even, toxic bullet change seems OK I guess, and I'm confused how Dynamo made it through with just a slap on the wrist
>I can't believe this person bought 61k souls worth of damage purples and no greens and their ability does damage>This hero is broken and stupid and their ability does too much damageImagine being this retarded.
>>563284794wall jumping being uncapped would lead to the exact kind of "tranny movement" that anon was talking aboutbeing able to stall endlessly or maintain height forever or freely scale any building would be cancer. too cheap at half-stam. and if you bump it to cost more, what are we even doing here? you hurt normal movement and stalling already costs 1.5 stamthe only obscure part is that there isn't like a little cuckjump indicator on your hud like there is for the parry cooldown. otherwise grasping the rule intuitively isn't that far-fetched. huh weird, i didn't get any boost from that walljump. oh i see, i have to wait a little to wall jump again. alright.you don't need to know the exact window or practice the timing. it's enough to just know that you need to delay your next wall jump a bitalso the alternative of just fully locking out walljumps after one is infinitely shit
SUICIDEBOMB BEBOP IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
>>563282483>his kit remains in the weird purgatory of being both oppressive and shitty at all other skill levelsHe reminds me so much of Spy from tf2 in that regard
>toxic bullet changethe reduced damage barely even matters it was mainly for triggering exposure stacks so that every spirit sneeze suddenly chunks you for half to all of your health.Escalating exposure needs to wear off faster, its so easy to tick it up. Your dispel is probably gonna get popped to clear some of it and one of the 15 instant death dots on you, and before even 5 seconds have passed you'll be up to 12 again.Even if you disconnect from the fight you have to wait 12 seconds for it to go away.I swear most fights I have in lategame are 12 people with 12 escalating stacks on running around being instantly nuked by the first floor lava they step in.
>>563287263some anons don't check the post-game graphs and it shows
>>563287263The problem with toxic bullets wasn't proccing EE wtf are you on about EE is mostly a meme anyways and bought as one of your last items on most heroes
>>563281827>now they are buffing flying heroesYou mean GT, Vindicta got stealth nerfed last patch.
how fucked is celeste m1 now?
What is the counterplay???
>>563287568basically her massive horse cock got turned into HRT limp shrimp
>>563282027Haze got what she deserved, although through retarded means. They should have just reverted her ult changes.Celeste also deserved nerfs, but I can't tell if it'll be enough.Bebop gaining his self-bomb back is funny, I myself made the suggestion for him to take self-damage a while back.The rest was shit.
>>563287630Ward his jungle.
>>563287660and in non mentally ill human terms?
>>563274137>Noooo!>I don't wanna learn macro!>You can't make me learn positioning!>I don't want to learn how to aim!>Just let me schmoooooooove!Tranny.
>>563278118steve jaros, the writing lead on the saints row games
>stomp unchanged>only nerf is an increase on TeleportDynamo bros we won
fuck doorman and fuck the baroness
>>563278848Thats because those people belong in initiate but the matchmaking is too retarded.
>>563273378Why do they keep needing her
>>563273378Djinns mark is utter bullshit. I was just holding back the entire base fight, Killed 3 people, and then I'm dealt 3000 damage at once out of nowhere instantly even though SpellBreaker, just cured myself with Dispel Magic, and was hitting Counterspells.
>>563287667celeste's nerfs are probably warranted at high rank but at lower ranks they turned her from mediocre to dogshit. I hate how every other hero in this game has "chen syndrome" from dota 2.
>>563287968>spirit is allowed to be giga broken>they nerfed her fucking gun falloff punishing you for being able to aim.I'm still mad.
>>563288067>me when I lieDjinns mark is obvious when you know how it works. You get a debuff, he has to shoot you more to stack it up higher, there's a huge number on you as well now. The higher the number the more damage, when the debuff runs out you take it. Either dispel it off, counterspell it or try to have it run out when its like 3 stacks instead of letting him get 5.>but I but IIf you ACTUALLY did any of those things you would have been fine and it can't even do 3k damage unless maybe you let Mirage buy every purple, they nerf its damage every patch.You probably just got hit by 1 Dynamo stomp and the damage log bugged out and lied to you.
>>563287913retard
is drifter a roamer or farm hero? my team keeps telling me to to farm the sidelanes
>>563287968This is someone's mom...
>>563288483There's a nightshift where one of them fails for 10+ seconds to climb up a basic 1 jump building until he just gives up and leaves.
i thought valve was based
>>563287263EE is a meme only bought super late by Shivs, Sevens and sometimes Vinnys that want to larp as snipers.
>>563288690Read nigga read
>>563288543Drifter is a good sidelaner because his 1v1 is good so typically you need to commit two to contest him
>>563287803what makes those skills any different from movement, other than that you already know themwhat part of movement skill supplants those skills at all in a way that doesn't happen the other way around as well. in other words, why is crutching on aim more sacred than crutching on movementdo you think quake died because they didn't remove strafejumping? and do you think being able to strafejump matters if you can't hit your shots?
>>563288690Pocket is a dude/twink but someone from Volvo wants to make him non binary
HELLO WINDRANGER
>>563288858he is a delusional retard who thinks that movement is the only thing separating him (ritualist) from being an eternus player
>>563288307I don't have a screenshot but I saw the death damage., It was more-so around 2.4k. I'll check the replay when it comes.>Djinns mark is obvious when you know how it works. You ge...YES THATS WHY I BOUGHT THOSE FUCKING ITEMS
>>563288858Movement is a skill that matters, it's just elevated a bit too highly presently.Slides, mantles, dash jumps etc are fine. Movement is obviously a part of the game.But also characters should not be crossing the map in 20 seconds without item investment.The more extreme bugs just need to be curtailed, its the same reasoning that hopping is curtailed in CS.
>>563286916Cheater victor sucks he cant be good
Victor is good again bros I'm so happy
Why don't they just make Vindicta's gun like Holliday's? fast enough to confirm but slow enough to be semi-auto'd so you can actually plink people at longe ranges instead of guiding a bullet hose.
>>563288307>Djinns mark is obvious when you know how it worksI wish it has a windup and visible effect before he pops it. Good Mirage players, if they know you have some way to counter it, will pop it before you do your counter.
>>563289273vindicta is already dogshit unless you're smurfing or aimbotting
>>563289382cool, but what does that have to do with her gun?
>>563289360They have to sacrifice damage to do so, and it becomes a mindgame. But yeah that gets around counterspell generally.Dispel will still deal with it.
Haze is finished
>>563289273>>563289382They really need to buff vindicta because whenever I play her I get so hard I can't focus
>>563289508She's about to become unplayable for you then if the leaks are true.
>>563289502Good. Now do that to graves and the game will be fixed
Who the fuck keeps telling people to try out pocket and build gun
>>563289494>They have to sacrifice damage to do soConsidering that they can just reapply it and popping does not put a cooldown on you where you can't be marked again, it's not that big of a loss. They lose more if they let you counter it.
game needs more brown girls
>>563289582Are they bringing her feet back?
Haze big nerf at the cost of constantly buffing Victor every patch.
>>563289765Yeah but reapplying it you have to work back up to actually having enough marks to do more than tickle someone. It's not a nothingburger.
when will victor be good enough to solo carry?
toxic bullets should do a damage type other than spirit
When is he coming to Deadlock? I need some peak.
>>563273717I love knots and cookies!
>>563290530make it scale off gun
Who is easier, abrams or billy?
>>563274948he's just trying to bait someone into wasting 2400 gold and an active slot on an item almost as bad as trophy collector or headhunter
>>563290728True. And deal pure damage.
>>563289092i'd say limiting movement in CS is more about the type of game it's trying to befucks with timings and fucks with engagements. letting people bounce around in the stand-still-to-shoot game wouldn't fitof the 'trifecta' i'd say movement is actually the least important, like there are plenty of eternus players who have basic-ass movement when you're not going to be seeing many carrying with movement alone, with underdeveloped aim and macroalso my guesstimation might be shit but if you're not holliday your rotates are still going to be like ~15-20 seconds from lane-to-lane and only when using specific routes. which isn't actually that fast compared to contemporary ASSFAGGOTsin general i would say the state of movement as it is now is plenty fair and fits the game deadlock is trying to be
>they nerfed GeistWhy?
>>563274792just got out of an e4 game and half the people in the lobby were braindead>>563275603this shit needs to be fixed already. let it parry spells still, let it be usable, but remove the movement entirely if you're hexed.
>>563278118I'M THA JOKAH BABY
is haze balanced now or still cancer?
>>563290921>>563290530truuuuue
>>563291025eternus games are a meme 100% of the timeeternus 1-4 games are always like 2-3 E5-6 players per team and a bunch of lower rank shitters bringing the average down so it's as much of a stomp as the average alchemist gameand E5-6 games are 99% of the time 5-6 pre-built players per team, all e4-6, and maybe some random E2-6 players that were queing
>>563282483vampires don't have assholes so how could she fart
>>563290983At good schmoove level its 10 seconds max to move from mid to a side, or side to mid without items on any hero. Easily doable in 8.Urn spawn to urn spawn is around 20 seconds.I don't want movement completely removed but the devs need to be active at looking and patching bugs in the movement as its discovered.
>get a suspiciously 0 effort free win with a good team>next game has a guy afk with an automove script so nobody can leaveSo this is what people mean with the 50/50 matchmaking huh.
>>563225773>>563226059>>563226190>>563228703>these are PRE-patch postsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>563291985>overbuff a char>they're broken>nerf them to shit 1 week afterthat's the formulaenjoy ur 1 week of grey talon
>>563292291Ok so where's the mirage nerf
>>563292991icefrogs / yoshis self insert, doesnt count
I want to play vis but using his punch on this god awful map with so many random bumps and bits that just angle it all retarded so you dont hit shit. and I always get cucked with its range by what seems like a cunt hair.
>>563293426splatter is better
yo i got ddos'd in a match, i got my key from someone else so i can't post on the forums, here's the match ID: 74816092. im the visc, gluteus. can someone post this in the https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/bad-matchmaking-thread.35834/ thread? the guys in the vc were talking like they knew me, and at the start of the game one of the dudes said "i was asking for it". pretty sure i know who it is, the other night i called out deathy in a 4chan thread where he was shilling his stream and he got pissed, so im thinking it's probably him. im pretty sure he's in the /vg/ deadlock thread posting racist shit and flaming people constantly. i also think that dude bots his stream? i made a thread a while ago talking about how i was pretty sure i was getting queue sniped and this is a continuation of that nonsense i think. anyways feel free to call me a schizo or help me out if you'd like
>>563293684You just made it worse for yourself buddy
>>563293684take your meds bro
>>563293847you can check the match i definitely got ddos'd, not 100% sure who it is but that guy is the most likely candidate for sure
>>563293684it was jeffery epstein dudehe's back and heard you were talking shit about him
>>563290989>head hunterIs this good?How come all the Geist’s on my team don’t go on 10ks
I'm kind of new, could you guys shill me on your favourite characters that don't require you to be cracked mechanically? I like contributing to the team in utility, presence or objectives. Been having lots of fun with Rem, Warden and Mirage so far.
>>563293684>YOU DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO VIEW THE DETAILS OF THIS MATCHWTF ITS REAL
played two matches of doorman and the nerfs dont matter at all, who the fuck is saving debuff remover for the remote possibility that doorman walks up to you and carts you when you are getting raped by shiv,infernus ecc. ? And if you go for the bdsm ult build they have to use DR to get out of it so the cart is guaranteed no matter how you spin it
>>563294224Billy
>>563294235JE made the call to gabe
>>563294285it's less that the nerf are going to fuck him and more that he's already shit so why even nerf him
>>563294285can ivy just stone form out of being carted now?
>>563291192>Haze: Bullet Dance T3 changed from "+1 Additional Target and +3m Movespeed" to "+60% Evasion and +4m Movespeed"that +1 additional target is (mainly) why haze has been cancer this past month and it is now gone. so yes, ult gutted.for the laymen, haze ult is not like reaper ult. it functions like soldier 76 ult, firing her gun perfectly for her, using its stats and applying its procs. but specifically that means it is not the case that each target takes 100% of her DPS. but instead her DPS is split evenly to each target in range. with no priority. which is to say it gets worse the more people are in it. so to that end, this patch turning her ult into a cone is a buff. she can limit who she's splitting her DPS across.the very significant nerf though, is removing that +1 additional target. having that effectively gives her a second pair of guns in her ult. doubles her DPS. doubles the rate at which fixation builds up, which doubles how quick her ult reaches peak damage. it's specifically what made her an ult-bot menace. because her DPS is already pretty high, so doubling it and ricocheting it across your whole team makes it ridiculous.
They're changing Celeste's name to Molest in the next patch
>>563294224ivy spirit build
>>563288706Mirage?
>>563294224Dynamo
>>563288706I rush EE on Shiv every game. He does nothing without it.
>>563294667>pick mo and krill and celeste lane>moleste
>>563281326Not beating the autism allegations if you can't understand the difference between something that "takes skill" i.e. ACTUAL skill expression, and "a skill" as in a mundane task any nigger ape can do with enough practice. My primary complaint is people equating the two as the same thing.The jank ass source engine movement slop is as easy as walking or breathing, same as timing counterstrafes in CS or L-cancelling in melee - it's just muscle memory. It's also dogshit and you + everyone who defends it is an autist.
>>563288574Grandmother even Imagine calling her “grandma Jean” in public and seeing her blush
>>563287362any one below eternus should stop speaking
>>563293426Greater expansion + ballistic enchantment make punches un missable
>>563295078She'd probably despise that given her entire motives are prolonging her life and retaining her youth
i did it!
>BebopAll they had to do was give him a ministun like Pudge so he could be useful and stop people from channeling ults in front of him>DynamoThat's all they did to the top tier faggot?>HazeWe buffed fucking everything but now she has to look in your general direction when she ults. Can't she just buy ricochet to still remove everyone nearby your target?>HollidayFor one of the worst heroes in the game we have made it so you can hold down m1 and not let recoil fuck you upA lot of these changes are just pointless number tweaks for an already fine tuned game but deadlock balance sucks ass right now
>>563295196good sissy, are you leaking in your cage?
>>563295196>Eternus 1(one)Shitter elojk congrats
>>563295196Damn is it that easy to get boosted to Eternus? Just braindead AoE slop spam?
>>563295196post bussy
>>563295278You forgot that Doorman has fucking nothing now because shitters cannot handle being CCed
can someone explain to me why veilwalker was triggered here? doors don't trigger it.https://www.twitch.tv/surefour/clip/SillyFragilePandaTheRinger-s7SW9S6Qo1ZG77vf
>>563295196>not hardstuck in Seekerbaby come back
>>563294224Doorman is really funny and has been at his highest high and lowest low. If you want to put on clown makeup, make the match miserable for one person in particular, and run meme items like trophy collector and fortitude alongside getting called a pedophile every match because people can't think of good banter anymore, boy do I have a character for (you)
https://www.twitch.tv/jamside/clip/CrispyWonderfulBananaDansGame-61nWJ0b-znLkxz3qHOW EMBARRASSING
>>563295196You're such a valid af transgirl, congrats!
>>563295441>if you pick carry and spam aoe it's based>if you pick support and spam aoe it's braindead slopinteresting
>>5632950733 hours later and this is the best cope you can come up withaiming is a nigger ape skill by your own definition btwand gamesense is intuition, which is gained through experience, which just means investing time doing somethingname a skill that takes skill without it, uh, "taking skill"
honestly those doorman clips don't do anything to me anymore, it's same thing over and over
>>563295196Any tips to climb?
>>563295667>because people can't think of good banter anymoreIt's called safe edgy, calling someone Israeli/IDF/Mossad (not a Jew/kike) is the only form of "racism" you can do, and calling someone a pedo is the only form of "sexuality" you can mock (can't call someone a faggot anymore)
>>563295554At least you can slow/knockdown someone pre baroness so they get stunned coming out of it, I feel bad for Doorman players now and don't like how we're making dispel mandatory
>Every game I'm against a doorman spamming the same walker kidnap buildI fucking hate high elo manOnce you're above phantom every unoriginal faggot does this shit.
>>563294106Headhunter is a bad item that's alright on Geist.
>>563295797Supports are always overturned retard proof vehicles women and people operate to get carried to high ranks
>>563295943>carries have more agency to win games>but it's getting 'carried' when you manage to climb there on something that has less networth to play around withlol
>>5632781187's bio is the most deviant art edgehog OC shit. Kinda makes it good solely because of how stupid it is.
>>563295869This is my favorite one because of the Rem
>>563295927It's really all he's good for unfortunately, they fucked the rest of his kit.
>>563295869>>563295927Don't blame people running the one thing that actually works OK for him when the devs keep nerfing his other choices, to be fair
>>563293426Switch puddle punch to instant cast, you'll fuck up way more to start but get a better feel of where to put it than you would if you were looking at the indicator eventually. But it'll still place on random surfaces and go off in the opposite direction you wanted now and then.
>>563295670>ult intentionally makes you slower>nah you should be able to slide and completely ignore thatback to giving people wet dreams bitchI'm also convinced anyone going>muh ult animation doesn't fit nowis just false flagging that they don't play haze, who the fuck cares
literally ANYONE can put on their chastity cage , pick paige and follow ur carry daddy around shielding him and spamming aoes + actives
>>563296114>doorwoman modmassive aura loss
>>563296121>>563296143Well enjoy it while it lasts, knowing how much ecelebs cry I don't see it lasting.
>>563296143don't pretend that if they buffed his bell by 400% tomorrow they wouldn't just bell you and cart under walker anyway, it's more than it's the only thing that works it's the character now
>>563295620Huh, I figured it out. That's a neat little exploit.
>>563278118Here is an image of the Valve employee that wrote Seven's backstory
>>563295667Isn't doing doorman's stuff kind of difficult though?
>>563296320mhm and that's why at eternus I come across a paige maybe in 1 in 50 games. because it's so easy to get to eternus spamming paige.
>>563295670>ruski>playing haze>seething about ultthank you for entertainment yoshi
>>563295620if the physical path between two doors crosses a veil the game thinks you crossed the veil and gives you the buff. or something like that
>>563296464Its not that most people want to actually earn their rank instead of being boosted like you.
>Tfw no biologically born female paige player to rank climb towards eternus with
>>563296712BLYAAAT I CAN'T GET ANY KILLS NOW BLYAAAT UNPLAYABLE IDI NAHUI CYKA
>>563295670i mean no dash is retarded but the aiming part is good
>>563296779Yeah that's exactly it. not sure how useful it really is, but it's a neat interaction
>>563296832Hey
>>563296464its okay sisi dont care if you play paige, now follow me around and shield me
>>563296402it feels like it was added on purpose, i can't imagine how do you "fuck that up" from a coding perspective
>>563296795ah yes earn their rank spamming dishonest niggers like apollo mirage haze infernus mina etc>BUT IT'S OKAY, THEY HAD TO SHOOT YOUR BODY 5 TIMES TO DO 1000 DAMAGEkek give me a fucking break faggot
Might as well change the Haze ult to just heal the opponent at this point what a dog shit nerf.
>>563296982Is this you? >>563295670
>>563296867You're probably a fat foid fuck off
>>563296975Keep begging better players to duo q with you like you did in previous threads paige anon. If you actually had skill you would be able to play real heroes instead of being a healslut.
>>563296867Hello milady I did not make this post >>563297169as I respect women. I simply did not reply because I don't think I'm good enough for anyone.
>>563297212no contest on what I just said huh? well at least you know braindead m1 passive slop takes no skill I guess.
Shut up guys I actually have eternus macro because I know where to stand behind the players actually contributing something, it doesn't matter that I'm unable to play any other hero lest I fall back to arcanist
>>563297383No, I don't acknowledge your fraudulent ass. Now get back in the kitchen I want a sandwich.
>>563296867hey even if you're fat it's not necessarily a deal breaker for me hmu
>>563296867sup bitch I was just trolling you with this last post just now >>563297330I will never marry you.
Do you guys have deep cool voices? I'll play Paige for you if you do
>>563297532>>563297554>anti paige poster is just an unfunny virgin larping and spamming the thread
YOSHI IS A FUCKING BLOODY BASTARD DALIT FUCKING NERFING HAZE FUCKING DOGSHIT DALIT WESTOID DOG GAME FUCK YOU SON OF A WHORE BHENCHODS
>>563297637no but i can do a pretty good stewie griffin impression
>>563297705Post vocaroo
>>563297637yeah I've been smoking cigarettes for 10 years so my voice is pretty deep
>>563297553sent ;)
>>563297662That time of the month for you, Paige-anon?
>>563297637Girls like my voice and personality, they ghost me when they see me tho
>>563297637sorry i only play soloq in deadlock and other games with my trans friend :)
>>563296460It takes some practice but he's honestly not too hard to figure out, I legit think his hardest build to really do good with is gunman because of how slow his bullets feel compared to others, but eventually you start to pick up on making door plays. You don't have to kidnap people with them, just start off having a door placed towards a safe zone and use it to dip when things get sketchy, more flashy plays come letter with experience
>>563297869Have you tried not being ugly?
>>563297849I'm so glad we're finally trans affirming in this thread and agreeing that trans women can have periods too.
>play geist>people are often mean to me or lane partner gets angry at me that he runs into enemies and dies>play paige>everyone thanks me even though I often don't even do much just miss my aoes and waste shieldhuh
>>563297915No point
just saw vegas facecam hahahah holy shit turn that shit off bro you're not him
fuming about another man's looks is gay
>4 solo ults used on me at the same time>THEY STILL COULDN'T KILL MEI LOVE SEVEN!
>Seven ult aoe dmg that takes up half the map>Can take up the whole base>Victor>Can delete whole teams with aoe dmg>Haze ult aoe>WAH WAH MUH METAL SKIN NO LET ME WIN YOSHIT PLS NERF>Haze becomes cosmeticSpiritsissies never stop shitting and pissing themselves the moment any M1 is good huh?
>>563298056It's simple>don't be fat>don't be bald>don't be a jawlet>don't be nonwhite>don't be short>take care of your hair>hit the gym
FIX HOLLIDAY NIGGA
>>563298037Anon, rubbing a dilator one your axe wound won't make you a real woman sorry.
>>563298225People didnt even build metal skin vs haze, they just straight up rather lose than build that fucking one itemthen icefraud panders to those retards by removing haze from the game
>>563296832>wanting to play games with a foidThe fuck?
>oneholy esl
>>563298413I like women
>>563298413but do play games with fags and trannies though right kill yourself
>>563298365Shitters cannot handle deviating from their L-R build in any way. Bro if I get the green item I'll miss out on 10% more damage!
>>563298413That's true love right there
>>563298326>mfw don't even like barrel shit but really like headshot bonus damage and wish crackshot builds weren't just going full retard with the character
meanwhile in initiate: >>563298215
>>563298365Stay mad Haze nigger you faggots have been a stain on the game for too long.
>>563298042carry spamming AoEs = selfish, stinky, toxicsupport spamming AoEs = stunning, beautiful, selfless
>>563298075>turn on stream expecting to see a goblin>relatively normal looking dude with a zoomer haircutboooooo
>>563298505Women are for fucking, anon. Games are for the boys.>>563298525When did I say that?>>563298548Fair enough.
>>563298449Mнe пoхyй пидop
>>563298774Go off, bisexual king
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1si6wn2/harassment_and_physical_threats_towards_female/Alright fess up, which one of you sexist pigs was this?
>>563298525Fags and troons can sometimes be good at games, foids never are
>>563298886Me
>>563298603>yeah bro you guys been good now its someone else's turnRetards like you are why the balance in this game is hot dog shit. No one in E6 thinks Haze is a problem.
>>563298886I'm convinced only trannies makes posts like this
>>563298886i call all women skanks
>>563298767naaaah brooo he isn't him brooo frfr he lookin like cornball ahhhh fr bro
>>563298886I thought it was against reddit tos to do witch hunts, seems rules do not apply to women
>>563299086>source: my initiate ass
>>563299212sybau
>>563299267ahhhh goofy ahhh bro he be lookin super corny bruh fr
>>563299086Stay mad I guess. You deserve worse than you got.
>>563298964>just be a troon loving faggotnah all you bro i'm good
So why is Apollo untouched
>Vegas looks like a human thumbWhen are we getting a Clavicular Deadlock streamer why all of them sub 5 or a troon?
The Haze abusers have all jumped ship to Infernus, if you were wondering.
>>563299086Haze wasn't nerfed, just changed to not be an ult bot they buffed her dagger and shit
>>563299463
>>563299263Post rank.
>>563299505guess yoshi is removing infernus dash next patch when reddit is complaining about it
Waiter! Waiter! More haze player tears please!
>>563299478We have metro
>tfw no buffs to CalicoShe doesnt do any damage bros hows an assassin going to do no damage
for any of the victorfags here is 1 >2 > 3 > 4 the skill order now? or 1 > 3 > 2 > 4im unsure if leveling aura t3 second is better than jumpstart t3 but the damage from aura with EE is not bad..
>>563299564>Yeah bro just play the meme echo shard dagger build broKill yourself.
>>563299478>why are people who spend huge amounts of time grinding a video game not very photogenic it's pretty self-explanatory
>>563299478we already knew what he looked like
>>563299704if ult isnt your first maxed skill ur mentally retarded
>see tutorial>click>mods>close tab
>>563299864ok lil gup
>>563299478>these are the people calling themselves femboys (ironic)
The game needs more characters like victor, graves, mo&krill and paige.
They should give Holliday her street brawl buffs in the normal game, and when you get a crackshot kill the enemies head should violently explode with nasty gibs and brains and shit
I play this game on hotel wifi
>>563288087>titsCringe. Vyper is flat
played against someone with autoparry for the first time last night, annoying as fuck.
rework Scourge so its not a useless toggle active but an actual late-game scaling spirit damage item
Started out Initiate 2, at Alchemist 4 now. My alt placed in Archon 6 but I don't think I'm ready for that yet so I'm grinding my way up to whatever rank feels comfy.
Majestic leap is the best item in the game.
>>563278118What is wrong with it? I swear people just post any writing and go "What is thisssssssss???"
>>563300232gaming on vacation on a laptop in a hotel room is fun desu
I just saw the patch notes>Haze buffs??? What is Yoshi smoking
>>563300328is scourge bad? i've never really looked at it closely, think i've bought it like twice when i had an unused active slot and we had a big beefy initiator.
>>563300540>3% max health per second damageSounds pretty decent to me
>>563300502>actually nerfing the character so hard shes not even pickable anymore is a buff!
>warden and infernus still not nerfedwelp. game's dead
>>563300703>you don't get it bro I should be able to pop metal skin and 1v1 haze in her ult otherwise she is OP
Burning a path!
>>563299704Both 1 and 2 to T2 ASAP (whichever order you prefer), then max 1, max 3, max 2, max 4 (maybe getting T1 4 earlier once you get EE)
>>563300703>stocks in everything but ultbot build upyou have to play the game now
i like how people think the self-bomb is a good thing when he just kills himself faster now, the bomb is the worst aspect of his kit
>be haze >only cc is sleep dagger>be warden>root cc>forces people to deplete stamina>flask does dmg and takes stamina>has shield>movement speed>haze small cone ult that can easily be kited>unmissable cone ult with built in lifestealWhy play "buffed" Haze over Warden again?
After giving it some thought, decay might actually be a pretty good item for Apollo now that silence wave is gutted >tanky target>throw decay on them while spamming my spells>by the time I've done my combo they should be low enough to ult
>the Haze changes were a BUFFUh...What the actual fuck!?Surely this is some kind of data error, right?
>>563300970Can he deny himself
haze main tears will keep me smiling all weekend
I like the idea that Billy was a virgin before meeting Vyper and is the only woman he's ever been with
turn on sv_pure
>>563273797Biggest skissue post ITT
>>563273378>When you kill that little stealing nigger Rem and a bag 5x bigger than his body pops out
Victorbros and Vickysisters, how are we feeling?Is our boy fun to play again?I'm starting to think he might be...
so last patch saved victor or he is still unplayable?
I play melee haze and I always spin autisticly during ult (centrifugal force would make the bullets hit harder if the game had realistic physics) so my playstyle is arguably buffed but Yoshi is a dumb fuck retard and he should be forced to detransition at gunpoint>nerf a character at the expense of their identity and common sense of how their abilities should act>avoid nerfing other problem character or trying to tackle the root cause of how there isn't a reliable counter against infinite value m1 passives>randomly buff grey talon (an already unfun character) so people have something new to complain about when metaslaves start spamming him
>>563301348He gained 8% winrate and is nearly a perfect 50/50 now, so I'd say he's probably the definition of "playable".
>>563284972Deadlock The Game-Mod Team >Just to clear up a few misconceptions:>Banter in a competitive game/sport of any kind is part of the culture. Slurs and insults are not, especially when based on bigotry.>Toxicity is present in the majority of online games but that does not mean people have to accept that this will be the status quo in our community.>Calling people who want to enjoy a match without insults "soft" does not make you look tough, it makes you look like a wannabe schoolyard bully who never actually played a team-sport where that attitude does not fly.>Valve is ALREADY taking a similar path in Deadlock, there are bans for communication-abuse and report-spamming, as well as a Low-Priority Queue for griefers and leavers. You can also set language-filters via Steam Settings which will apply to Deadlock.>Make sure to report bad actors in Deadlock AND on this subreddit.
>>563301332He's still f-tierSorryOnly gun carries are allowed.
>>563300874ok thank you bwo i will test that out >>563301332yes im having fun with him played until 6am, aura is good again and he scales well late game
>>563301607|>he doesn't know about gun victor Go read the patch notes again.
my lab partner just creampied me <3
>>563301613Holy shit, Victor NEEDS a skin like that...
>dynamo is absolutely broken>hardly anyone complains about him
>>563301613>That scarI know that it's also on Victor's in-game model, but I'm curious what it means. I've seen the same scar on many undead enemies from Edmund McMillen's games.
>>563301709WOW A HOLE 1 BULLET DAMAGE SO FUCKING STRONG
>>563298351What purpose would a dilator serve if it was being rubbed on the neovagina and not inserted inside
>>563294106>>563295938I like it. It's good when there's a lot of squishies. I was surprised how much total damage I ended up getting with itBurst damage is an underrated factor when it comes to impact
- Bebop: Grapple Arm now deals light melee damage (0.7 scaling)CRUSHINGFISTS
>>563301859Standard autopsy scar
>>563299949>This is the guy who sucks Riot's cock and says that Riot's version of Deadlock will destroy DeadlockLmfao.
>>563300289She'll have tits when she gets her proper model
>>563301845Suffers from the og character syndrome. Haze and Seven are the same. Yes, people complain about them but not neraly as much as they should. I mean both forever have like 56% win rate if not 60% and top pick rate NO MATTER THE RANK (usually "noob heroes/carries" in MOBAs get pwned in higher ranks). They are objectively broken, busted characters no matter what stats Valve has and yet they do nothing about them. Only now grudgingly did Yoshi decide to change Haze ult and we will see if it will tank her win rate or not.I doubt it because they buffed everything else so she's now basically the turbo M1gger hero meaning any sweaty Koreans with built-in auto-aim will stomp every game.
>>563301992extremely funny because riot can't even get their "mmo" (genshit impact clone) out of planning phase haven't they scrapped the whole thing and restarted twice?
>>563301859It's a Y incision autopsy scar.
>haze's ult no longer has a target limit, but instead hits literally everything in a 90 degree coneThis is an extreme buff if you aren't a brain dead retard.
>>563302394lol
>rage can build through barriers nowTHATS WHY I COULDNT FUCKING GET RAGE
>>563296883Depends how veil walker coding is handled. One thing I could imagine happening is if the game is checking your current position to the one during the previous frame and seeing if the line drawn between the two positions happens to go through a veil.If that's the case then something that could absolutely happen is Doorman's position before and after going through a portal ends up going through a veil resulting in veil walker being triggered.
>>563302394all the fotm hazes were brain dead retards, anon
Doorman is the old Techies of deadlock
>>563302394Good thing evety haze 1-trick is a brain dead retard, anon...
>>563302394>NO! NERFING YOUR ULT DMG BY 66% IS ACTUALLY A BUFF!
>>563302394>dash through the dash forcing her to turn 180 to hit you>dash through her again
fortitude should not count as healing in the stats screen
>>563302394>cone ability on an ability that was already easy to escape>b-but bro you can multi hit people in itI would rather have the non multi hit aoe haze ult and just slap ricochet than play this garbage.
>>563302583Bro, it hit 2 targets prior.2.If you can position it correctly with range items now it hits all 6 and every creep, which means your Ricochet goes batshit insane.>>563302627Oh no! Counterplay is possible!
>>563302489i was thinking it'd be more collision based but that actually makes sense and feels like something valve would do
afterburn should have it's duration reduced by sliding and rolling on the groundbleeds (drifter,shiv) can have their damage reduced if the target is standing still or not dashingfixation should only apply on 1 enemy at a time (it's called fixation)djin's mark should have a distance mechanic where is does less damage the closer you are to mirage (so for it to do damage, you have to stack it to max, then teleport across the map)mina should have to confirm her lovebite by actually biting youhaving sex with vyper incrementally builds up an immunity against her poison, toxic bullets can work the same way with the character who buys themseven's power surge is balanced and honest and they should remove tesla bullets from the shop so only he can do it
>>563302512We need a techies ult hero who suicides for massive damage.
>>563301845He's strong as fuck but he does require a team that will damage the niggers he ults as opposed to Haze that could kill a whole team solo.
well at least he's good
>Haze presses 4 to turn into Graves with splitshotAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>563302781retard its limited to 1 target even if you have 300 units in front of you.
>>563301007>Root versus SleepAnon..
>>563301936Why don't REM players have the same reputation of stupidity as Paige players?
>>563303287Don't argue with Hazeniggers
>>563303330Because troons play Paige, but real women play Rem.
>>563303287Sleep is a dog shit CC compared to the root. You shoot them once and they are back up.
>>563303420Enemy can dispel root but not sleep. Enemy can fight back during root. Apples and oranges but generally sleep is more powerful imo
>>563303420>haze player can't even conceptualize letting go of m1it really just writes itself
>>563303381Proof?
>>563302781>le disneyland scenario cope which would have you kill every enemy with any ability anywayYou know with your logic a Dynamo with refresher can kill 6 people too.
>>563301067Haze has built in, infinitely scaling gun slowdown now. Her skill floor has plummeted, but her skill ceiling just skyrocketed
>>563301939>- Bebop: Grapple Arm now deals light melee damage (0.7 scaling)>CRUSHING>FISTSDoesn't work on light melee only heavy
>>563301007>retard on 4chan solves deadlock, eternus players with 60% wr with haze are actually stupid and should play maybe the 5th best m1gga in the game
>>563303740Spirit Snatch then
Sex with Yoshi for killing Haze onetricks
>>563299478I like Eido, he looks like he'd be a really cute twink ngl
Mina is just an M1 hero
>>563303774Actually it does work just less and don't get bonus heavy melee damage
>>563303579If we are making Haze a pick hero I would rather have a root than a shitty sleep that my retarded team can ruin.
>>563299478Actual Chads only play gun and ball games on their PS5 for 1-2 hours a day
>>563302394>haze's ult no longer has a target limit, but instead hits literally everything in a 90 degree coneare you retardedthis is not any different from how haze ult has always workedit has never had a "target limit"it either shot one bullet at one target at a timeor two bullets for two targets at a timeand when it does the latter, it's broken
>>563303748>he unironically thinks haze is still goodoh no no no>he uses winrate statistics unironicalyHAHAHAHA
>>563303748haze had 52% wr in eternus
>>563303330Rem has an absurd escape tool, so if you ever catch him behind the main fight he's going to jump into someone's ass and by that point if you clean him up after killing the rest of enemies it feels less like picking on a retarded support.With Paige I have a collection of clips where she's just backpedalling or flat-out running away down the lane and me doing heavy melee after heavy melee into her ass until she dies.
Summer skins when?
>>563304102They should of made it thinner but with more range desu.
>>563304208The minute valve gives Vindicta painted toenails is the minute I start maining her
Support VinYes/no?
>>563304193Paige players unironically the freest farm on the map.
>>563304193>me doing heavy melee after heavy melee into her ass until she dies
>>563304159>best players in the game could only manage a 48% wr vs the heroNerfs were extremely needed
>>563304439I buy a value rescue beam but that's it, you might as well take advantage of your positioning and extra item range
>>563304102Nice "gunkata" animations Haze faggotsM1gger menace reduced to a black woman flailing in front of you doing nothing
What is the point of abilities like Abrams wall slam, ult, or Venator gut shot if they never give enough time for heavy melee and you get parried?
>>563302394Haze ult never had a target limit >>563302781>if every single person on the enemy team stands perfectly in a cone and is too retarded to move away then you'll go batshit insane!!!!are you for fucking real you cant be this stupid
Having fun learning mental terrorism doorman spots to mess around with in real games later. Some of them feel a bit too much though, i'd be worried about getting reported.Here's a fun one
>>563304439I want to try scourge spirit burn sometimes maybe heal beam
Haze did nothing wrong.
I would main Vindicta if she was a little girl
>>563304542put duration extender on any and every stun ability
>>563304643What's the point in being able to see Doorman doors if I can't fucking do anything about it? You should be able to break them with heavy melees.
>>563304560it compliments the rest of her playstyle and benefits more from other items haze buys, encouraging her to play the gamethe previous patch had haze players ignoring the game until their unstoppable ultimate powerspike and then pressing two buttons
I would main Paige if she was a hot dude
>>563304728That works for abrams stun? I assumed it just made you charge longer
>>563301067>sleep dagger sleeps you for longer>hits you for 700 damageshe's a proper assassin now
>>563304754Now that's an idea. Post it in the forum.
>>563304837Lash does what she does better unironically.
>>563301067dumbasses will still continue whining
>>563304643That's just straight up bug abusing.
Is Graves still a brick?
Haze homeless vros..
>>563304994Out of 10!
>>563304774It's both, that's why I buy carpet after DE.
I had no idea it was air dash parrying people were using to punish meleeing creeps, my dumb ass was dashing in looking stupid a few times before I gave up
I see Celeste is getting the Dark Seer treatment of getting nonstop nerfs
>>563304930There's much worse than that, here's a staircase no one can use until the Doorman player decides to allow them to.
>>563304771she already is anon
>open twitch>pick a russian streamer>haze>3x the networth of everyone in the lobby>hardbass>18 "QoL" mods the memes were real cykaaa
>>563304542you need T2 in those abilities for it to combo into heavy melee, otherwise you only have time for a free light
>>563305279No bro me being able to see someone's unspent souls and player hitboxes is a QOL feature, stop discriminating against disabled folx.
>>563305108You mean Haze
Aim assist mods in shooters are quality of life and if you disagree you're ableist If you can't handle that the enemy Haze NEEDS mods to play half as good as you then you need to change your thought process
no one makes these argumentsattacking a literal strawman you're making up in your head
>attacking a literal strawman you're making up in your head
>>563305438If you were so good why did you piss your diaper about Haze ult for months?
>>563290850Free money is good. Its also far superior to trophy collector because its consistent and you can sell it later after farming with it.
>>563305525?
>dynamo and mirage received slaps on the wrist>graves silver and victor still need buffs or changes>bebop and holiday's buffs are irrelevant What was the point of this patch? Only good change was the haze nerf
>>563305087Thats very funny. Do you get de-carpeted if you take damage while flying?
>>563305795No..? Buy the fucking item.
>>563305791It wasn't good tho.
>>563305791did mirage even need to be gutted?
counterspelling a targeted spell should reflect the effect back to the casterdoorman doors should be destroyable by the enemy with 1 heavy meleenot hitting anyone with stone form should immobilize you for 0,5 secondssoul exchange is now true hp swap, instead of a damage/heal (you can heal the enemy if you misuse it)knockdown now interrupts ice path and breaks the ice under youtankbuster changed from 8% current hp to 10% max hp
Hello everyone! I am a chronically ill, disabled, queer and neurodivergent person. I really want to find a small group of similar people who I can regularly play this game with.I main Doorman, Rem, Graves, and Paige but I want to learn more characters.I feel like I constantly run into issues where people just don’t know how to play the game and/or they aren’t willing to work as a team and/or are playing it like an FPS and not focusing on laning/farming.I keep bouncing between Initiate IV, Initiate V, and Seeker I.If you’re looking for a small group of similar people, please respond to this
>>563305931Of course he did, he's obnoxious. Not nerfed enough yet, either.>>563305949Being able to break doorman doors would be nice, the character is just so obnoxious to play against.
>>563305916I've never bought it before, that's why I'm asking!
>>563305990i only game with trans women if they are caged up
>>563305791Bebop is big but changes the way the hero plays which sucks, hooking is why I want to play him but they want Bebop to be a terrorist and sprint into crowds now
actually you should be playing paradox because she's honest, and she's cute, and her jokes are funny
>>563306360ParaDORK
braps on every kelvin player
>>563301512Yeah but he isnt s+ 57% win rate so he's actually unplayable garbage
I brawled too hard..
>>563306356>but they want Bebop to be a terrorist and sprint into crowds nowThey saw that Bebop players are feeder retards so they might as well get some use out of it
>>563305990Play Mo and Kirill
>>563305279>russian pig permanently on new accounts to play against new players while having thousands of hours clocked
>>563306463>Be Phantom>Finally get my friends to play Deadlock>They only play Brool>Legit 4 hours a day of brooling, want to play things other than Deadlock>Eventually notice I've brooled with friends so much I went back to ObscurusWhat a curse.
Sex with Obscurus playersRanktards need not apply
>nerf doorman bell and gun so kidnapping is the only way to kill people >nerf kidnapping>dont buff anything elsethis character quite literally does nothing except CC now, what are they thinking
>>563306960Shitters mentally cannot handle being kidnapped so they bitched and complained
>>563306960bell still chunks for 400 damage and is piss easy to land
When are they gonna add a bug/insect/arachnid hero?
>>563307281mina
>>563307281Mina and Pocket
>>563307281Mirage already exists. He is a turkroach.
>>563307281mirage
>>563307250bells do awful damage now and are harder to hit until you hit max level on them
Holy baited"A skilled fighter sacrifices something, that the enemy may snatch at it"
>>563307387he does look like he would do the ice cream thing to me
>>563305405WHY IS EVERYONE CHEATING ALL THE TIME ITS A FUCKING BIDEO GAME ITS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN
>>563307482They do not oneshot people anymore which is why doormen are malding. But valve has taken a lot of steps towards making it so that doing any combo is not a one shot
>>563301067>Everything but ult gets buffed>Ult is actually better at killing one person than before since people behind and beside you don't countI didn't really expect her to be any worse.
>>5633074827700 176003360049800Those are the earliest points you can max each of your 4 spells. If you want to fuck on people with bell you could easily do so.
>>563307626
>>563307486life or 900 soul bag? Easy choice
I added Haze to my roster, I like ganker heroes and she's a gank hero now.
>>563307912>cheating nigger russian on a vindictaName a more iconic match
>>563307804>>563307880i implore you to try a match now with the current bell scaling and tell me they're not borderline useless. does nothing in lane, can almost do something mid-late game if you heavily invest into it. and he has nothing else now except for ult
>>563307626blessed image
>>563304439It's good, infact it's what you might be building most games if you don't need to be a hardcarry.
>>563308226>oh no my broken ability early game isn't broken late game!you're a moron
>>563304439Unless you're doing amazing early or your team is drooling retards that can't kill anyone, you're supposed to be a support.
>>563305143>place door after lane phase>unbind doorman door button
>>563308176Your mom on my dick.
>>563308343what are you even talking about? what ability does doorman have that's broken early game?
this kamikaze bebop change is 100% getting reverted or making the self damage higher
>>563305279Yes, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP6FdVkyZNM.
>>563307626Me winMe better than youCheats make me better than youez
>>563308343he literally said it does nothing in lane thoughhe's still good on lane but not nearly as good, and he's way worse than other gigabroken laners that are also gigabroken mid and late game
>>563305143>>563308528You can door over juke closets and just not place a secone door to lock people inside.
>>563293095You guys said that about celeste and look what happened to her.
This item seems crazy good. Why do only Shivs get it?
>bells are useless!>proceeds to miss every bell shotits a skillshot sweaty and maxing at ap5 provides generous lifetime for you retards
>ivy, kelvin and dynamo barely touched>doorman gets invalidated by yet another 3200 itemLol lmao
>>563308226You're arguing with ritualist players that are also just saying shit in bad faith.
>>563308542>>563308659Africa of europe. Highest AIDS rate in europe.
>>563308947>doorman gets invalidated by yet another 3200 itemDon't worry, shitters who don't buy counter items will still rage about him
>>563308930projectile is so slow, anyone who cares enough to dispell it, WILL.
>>563309086I think doorman is fucking infuriating to play against because he mind controls my team to make the most baffling decisions ever, but out of all the support characters he's by far the worst one, I'm shocked they nerfed him so badly. I'd almost feel bad if I didn't hate getting kidnapped as well.
>make character called DOORman>make his kit involve map positioning, crowd control and macro>repeatedly nerf the parts of his kit that allow that>DOORman is just a aoe spirit spam character nowBrilliant
>>563305405>me being able to see someone's unspent soulsI genuinely don't get why you act like this is a huge advantage.
>>563309224an aoe spirit spam character with spirit aoes that do no damage btw
>haze has 17 kills>im the only one on my team that buys metal skin
These Mirage nerfs are nothing. Tried him out and he's still a beast.
>>563309224He struggles to even keep with minion health scaling, most of the time it takes 2 bells to clear a wave.
>>563309224>be 60k lead with 21 kills / 0 deaths>its my smurf account because... playing the 1% is actually ass? who knew>enemy 25k doorman appears>GET KIDNAPPED BY "THE DOORMAN">PROCEED TO GET CARTED INTO THEIR BASE>"RREEEEEEEEEEEE HELP HELP WHY CANT I GET OUT OF THIS. THIS IS OP. THIS IS OP. HELP HELP THERE IS NOW COUNTER PLAY. THIS IS UNFAIR. UNFAIRRRRRRRRRRRR"these are the screaming retards without map awareness and on adderal.
>>563307486>that Kelvin missed ult.The cherry on top.
>be vyper>silver tries fighting me>changes into wolf>just slide backwards on a staircase as she walks in a straight line directly into me without even moving an inchim starting to think the problem with silver isnt the character...
>>563307486>Geist just hiding with low healthGenuinely most dishonest bullshit ever
how do you Lash?
>>563309657vyper is so sexy wtf
>>563309457>map awarenesswards doko
>>563309327You can glance at their wallet and determine they're going for a big buy and force fights before spikes. It's cheating.
>>563309475>dynamo comes in to save bebop but uses entanglement a second too late>kelvin comes in to save dynamo but uses dome a second too late
>>563309779Couldn't you do that just buy looking at their items and not being a retard?
>>563309087It's funny to use it on ulted Ivy's and they just fly away from it effortlessly
>>563309705CHOOOOOOOOOOOSE>epic big damage always in the air GROUND POUND stomp big damage>vs>ult bot
Once again, ALL mods are cheating. All of them.
>>563309327Literally anything that isnt in the game that you can get using third party software is by definition cheating even if you could see how much time someone spent hitting boxes that'd be cheating how is having info you ARENT supposed to have not cheating?
high definition Vindicta feet models and textures aren't cheating
Hello I'd like some audio mods that give ults memorable music from video games>Fuck you here are some tiktok memes lol!
>>563309819Yes just like you can track all camp timers in your head if you're not a retard. The fact the info is processed instantly as opposed to adding up item values might be a clue.
>>563310064ALL mods are cheats.
why are new players with 20 hours in the game put into oracle?
>>563309892Almost everything people whine about cheating is shit you can easily do by just paying the slightest amount of attention or is info the game already gives you but is slightly less obtuse, like boss timers. The only thing that is cheating is outlines, camp timers, and hitboxes.>>563310069There's a clear difference between pressing tab and taking two seconds to look at your opponents items and deciding if you want to force a fight with them or not and keeping track of every single camp on the map and when they'll respawn. Camp timers is full on cheating because no human can reasonably do that no matter what skill they're at.No little timmy, you didn't lose your ritualist game because tommy two timer can see your unspent souls.
>>563310424explain how putting the characters into bunny outfits is cheating
>>563310603>Almost everything people whine about cheating is shit you can easily do by just paying the slightest amount of attention or is info the game already gives you but is slightly less obtuse, like boss timers. The only thing that is cheating is outlines, camp timers, and hitboxes.so then dont install them then shouldnt be that hard then
>>563309224I've played a few matches as Doorman today after the patch and i think you definetly have to just max bell now. I'm maxing bell, then cart then ult or door depending on game. It sucks because Doorman has four abilities that really want the final upgrade. Maxing bell and building around it makes you at least do good damage, cart only feels like a real ability at max level. Ult is also really good and i thought about just buying leap every game and going around ulting people but its too inconsistent since most people at my rank can easily escape the hotel. I love max doors and i think its by far the most fun final upgrade for any skill in the game, but at the same time the other upgrades are probably more necessary
the enemy team has rejuv and we're down 30ki'm thinking it's time for a brool in the jungle
Would The Lash punch nazis?
maybe because unspent souls IS resource and knowledge. i think if they wanted it in the game, it would be added as a feature or like a similar past hero. not mods for your scummy brain
>>563310694I don't, I just don't constantly whine about people who do.
>>563310569because oracle is shit
>rawdogging cart into door kidnap is harder to hit than nearly any other skillshot in the game (needs a hard read and all planets in alignment for the map geometry to allow door placement work + a retarded enemy)>vortex web (6400) allows it to work reasonably well against shitters>cleansing the initial (6400) item with a (3200) item on reaction is too hard, make it so you can cleanse the entire stun during the entire duration and invalidate the only viable way to play the meme character
>>563310928who's constantly whining sounds like projecting desu
>>563310692If bebop has a geist bunny ear mod he'd have seen her over the sandbags here: >>563307486 , and that entire gank would not have happened.
>>563310978>who's constantly whiningbut every day or so theres someone spamming "mods = cheats" posts
>>563310692It makes my peepee hard, thus distracting me.
if you want to see unspent souls, outline, and hell why not amp the damage on them?, just wait for bounty hunter instead of cheating?
>>563306356>Bebop is big but changes the way the hero plays which sucks, hooking is why I want to play him but they want BebopIt's so they can't dispell it and so you can time it for them to not counterspell it either
>>563310987Please direct me to the geist mod in question with bunny ears THAT huge so I may *ahem* report it to valve as damaging the integrity of the game thank you.
>>563308947what item invalidates doorman?
>>563310824>enemy gets rejuv>enemy runs urn>teammate on mic>"guys they uhhhh have rejuv uhhh lets just play it safe yeaouhog uhuh like don't even fight unless you're under a tower uhhhh huhhhh">immediately tries to 2v5 mid>immediately diesyou WHAT
>>563306356>He doesn't know the unreactable hook bomb strat.
>>563311496dispel magic counterspell silence wave knockdown focus lens and more
>>563307486most dishonest character in the game
>>563311608>dispel magic>counterspellexplain? to stop the bell?i thought the biggest value of doorman is the ult
Have you guys considered that maybe doorman players deserved it for being faggots?Just a suggestion.
Imagine if dota 2 only had 30 characters to launch and for some odd reason icefrog releases earth spirit early. people would be crying nonstop for a complete rework on how earth spirit was made because.. well youre probably only fighting the same line up like 80% of the time which SUCKSthere just needs to be more heroes and LESS changes to their vision on a hero. but alas, im not faggot streamer or youtuber
>>563307486Most honest hero in the game. Literally just don't walk up next to a Geist that has ult up. Yes that includes you, William, trying to punch the low health Geist that's behind a veil
>>563311171make it Silence during the pull, or better yet remove dispel because it's hella gaaaay (in the bad way)
>>563304923retard
>>563310692it makes men and AGP troons play better, its literally performance enhancing mod
>>563311716you can dispel the cart now and counterspell it too also the explosion and the biggest value of doorman isnt the ult its being able to send people to china but doorman players dont do that the ult is good for removing a troublesome player from a match but other than that its whatever its better just to send them away desu
>>563311921This, coom mods are like athletes doing roids, it's an unfair advantage
Do you guys do anything other than whine about things you don't like in the game in these threads and posting homosexual fanart?
>>563312075Only on Wednesdays.
trannycords are getting uppity, again, about people calling out on them using "mods"
>>563283994>Victor needs his purge backkys
>>563312075shut up bitch
Just noticed that there's custom statuses for each of the heroes when in the hideout
Remove dispel, i should be able to get bomb damage for free. this isnt fair, you have to take the 800+ damage bomb or im telling yoshi!
>They/them Pocket abandons my lane to go gank another lane>This is his stats 10 minutes in, with a 3v2 advantageAllah strike down these feeder brooltards
>>563312075i only play after workdays and shitpost on my days off
>>563312304>HIS statsuhmmmmm?
how long until movementlets get movement tech removed?
>>563311784someone said it before but all of the Deadlock heroes we have now are basically ability draft abominations from Dotaimagine if we didn't take 13 years of development and balancing, only to summarily throw it into the trash and just do... whatever
>>563312392Never, because I like it even if i cannot grasp the full concept. It is the sole reason for map changes alone, thank you for your understanding.
>>563312524people said celeste was immune until today.
>>563311784This why did we slow down on experimentation and new features to buff and then nerf and then buff and then nerf Dynamo over and over again
>>563312392the only movement tech i hate is that source engine jank slop about releasing W for air speed and control. but they'll never remove it because "its iconic"
>>563312469someone also said hard part of the balance in this isnt just simply porting heroes into the game and hope for the best, but the fact we are in a whole new space to play. probably why yoshi likes making changes to his game and something he hasnt done himself before which he is clearly 1000% interested and invested in.Lash/Seven are a few of his a great example of this and probably one of his favorites that helped inspire the new planescape to work with
>tfw you're on a ganker character and you quickly find out it's one of those fucking games where you will lane janny for 20 minutes before you fade into late game irrelevanceI wish people would just kill the damn creep waves instead of engaging in 5 minute long poking contests on mid. It's either have shrines or have fun in pisslow.
>>563302512I miss old techies. Them and dps Omniknight were the only reason I played DOTA
>>563312958This is half of my silver games, the carry players REFUSE to sidelane and I have to lane janny while they brool in mid dying to a fed apollo.
mm fucked right now? two games now someone hasn't connected
>>563312392hopefully sooner rather than later
>>563313151It's been fucked for about 2 months now, bro.Where have you been?
>>563312575and still owning silently
>>563313247fucked more than usual
>>563313253is this real???
>haze 1 tricks ass annihilated and shitting up the gennyLMAOMAO
>>563310987>>563311339Speaking of, where are all the hat tower "skins" that would make people visible on the skyline from across the map at all times?
>no graves buffsshant be reinstalling
>>563309659deadlock needs dagon so we can get the old cancer terrorblade build going
>>563313714imagine the smell
>>563307250When in the fuck are bells "chunking" for 400 damage aside from when the same build you'd be hitting for 1k with any other character
>all those celeste nerfslmao yoshi really got offended by that one meme huh
>>5633139832 minutes into lane
>kelvin's dome is IMPENETRABLE!!!!!111!!!>except for the dozen spells that can penetrate it for free
>>563314150list them
>>563314183Rem sleep
>>563313876considering midas and armlet are in the game, i'm surprised dagon isn't lol
>>563314183paige ult, dynamo's fuck bullshit 2
>>563280375>if i make a new account it instantly throws me in one of the highest ranksNot the own you think it is. The ranking system is broken. Emissary has people fighting over bridge buffs at 5 minutes exactly and also people who never fight over urn.
>>563308659Of modern Russian music, I prefer witchhouse.https://youtu.be/K6DEcVV3Lds
>>563312892>the fact we are in a whole new space to playand that would be fine if they were approaching balance and design with that mentality, but really it feels like they're just slapping things together from Dota or other gamesit's a situation of trying to re-invent the wheel, except the wheel is actually meant to do something other than be a wheel, and we don't really know how wheels work so we'll just wing it and hope for the best...?thematically and mechanically it appears very flawed and uninspired
I can't stop gooning to Mina...
>>563313913Beautiful, I know.
>>563313876All the CC items do damage in the game. Dagon would just be repetative
When are we getting a pure solo q im sick of getting put against obvious duos in lane.
>>563314573Can't wait for her string bikini skin
>>563314573that is a male
When should you stop depending on builds as a noob? I have no idea what to buy and just autobuy a build.
>>563312958hey I respect those poking contests on mid, at least they aren't afk farming right next to a lane and still letting the enemy waves push into our walker because they have to get that one extra creep that will give them less souls than the fucking waves.
>>563314969Build for what you need at that moment, not for how the ideal demands
>>563314969unironically play 500 brool matches
>>563314969i don't think there's necessarily a cut-off point. you should familiarize yourself with the fundamentals of the game (the three different item types, what most of the common ones do), and how you're performing in certain fights and reactively buy new items based on that. it's a game knowledge muscle you need to flex, not a threshold you pass
>>563312958This kind of shit is why I've accepted it's just not possible to climb solo queue unless you just high prio meta M1 carries. Like what can I actually do in a game where I'm on a spirit nuker and yellow is constantly shoved because the matchmaker gave me a single M1 character but the dude playing just runs it down mid for is 0-7. That shit isn't winnable.
>>563314969The best builds are the ones that give you a lot of options to choose from rather than going L->R with nothing else
>seven trying to solo push lane>ult him as drifter>goes apeshit on all chat and says its a waste>he bases because of it (?)>do to him every time it gets off CD because its a 50second CD>endless saltim going full CD ult build with refresher from now on that shit is funny as fuck.
>>563314969I'm 800+ hours in and I still use public builds, but only as a guideline. I usually end up heavily modifying them to fit my preferences.
>>563315470the real secret to gaining MMR is to just absolutely demoralize and tilt the enemy carries. retards here thinking you have to go carry every game to climb up meanwhile I got to phantom by simply getting 4 actives on whatever character i get and sending their most fed target to gay baby jail
>>563315470Don't forget to get arcane surge and proc it before using your ult, that + superior duration and it lasts like 14 seconds.
>>563314969unironically just build L>R unless you absolutely need to counterbuy someoneyou can still build offensively with something like Witchmail, or buy Actives to lock them down
>>563314969Don't autobuy you will never learn what the items are, even a few seconds of reading will familiarize yourself with stuff over time
>>563314969I stopped using builds after 50 hours only ever make my own. Usually you need anti-heal, space for dispell, a disable like slowinghex/knockdown then you wanna hit the 4.8k powerspike around minute 10-15 other than that you're free to build how you like.
people keep jumping around, making all my melees miss themwhat item solves this issue
>>563305949>tankbuster changed from 8% current hp to 10% max hpno
>>563316191>what item solves this issueNone, melee abilities and hard CC are the solution, so abrams stuns, billy's skills and silver(3 melee abilities)
>>563314969E6 players still use other peoples' builds because the best players in the game are that much better than everyone else. It's literally pic rel. Good builds give you a basic core that the character almost always wants and then optionals depending on how the match is going/what your comp is/what the enemy comp is/playstyle preference. Unironically just follow builds by the top players, especially ones who stream because you can watch them play and change their buying habits on the fly so you can get a feel for what makes them prioritize certain items in certain matches.
I'm getting try not to kill yourself challenge lobbies now what the fuck. Actual people who are afraid of the guardian like dude just dash in and parry WHAT THE FUCK
>>563316191stop playing melee because it's COOKED
>>563316559>Enemy duo are both 30% hp pushed up to guardian but your lane buddy at 100% hp wants to punch boxes instead???
>>563316191i have the opposite problem where i jump around and also parry, and my parries would work if i wasn't jumping around like a spastic so it actually works against me>>563316559i went 3-9 last night and almost uninstalled on the spot, at one point i saw my GT spending 45 seconds clearing a T3 jungle 20 minutes into the match
I love jumping about as Graves and dodging all the bullshit and punches on the ground level
>>563314969like other said builds are used by good players, I'd just recommend not using quick buy, the time saved isn't worth not taking a moment to look over your options when you're still learning. Depending on your hero it's good to know different possible builds; viscous is shit rn but he's an example where you might want to play splatter if you have a m1 heavy lineup or punch if you already have a lot of spirit, these are decisions you need to make in the first minute looking at both teams drafts
Who is the potato of deadlock?Victor?Abrams?Mo and Krill?
>>563317346Yamato
>>563316647passive lanes make me tilt so hardi come from HotS where everyone is on a hair trigger and always itching for a fight, so it makes me fume when people don't see the obvious pick and trundle off to go PvE or PvFurniture>>563316690real talk why do t3s suck so much
>>563317490>>563317490>>563317490>>563317490>>563317490NEW
why didn't they just actually make haze ult into reaper ult instead of this
>>563316647boxes give more souls than a lane kill, unless (you) have been feeding them
>>563314332so, the abilities that go through everything?