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Baiken

So if the next Guilty Gear comes out and it confirms Bridget and Unika are together, does that technically make Bridget a Kiske? That'd be awkward since you know, Bridget literally kidnapped Dizzy.

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>No Giovanna OP

One job.

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oh yeah GGs Jam anon.
Death to corns.

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>>563346430
ggs all, closed
good turn out. nice to see new faces
>against jam you can IB 2K - 2D and back throw 236H
that felt good. still not really sure how to deal with jam honestly, can you 4P the cross over? felt like I kept getting counter hit for trying

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>>563356534
I'm coming to brazil

Wow, Venom got hardcore nerfed. I used to have a lot of trouble fighting him. Good lord, what did they do to him?

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THE WHAT

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this made me happy besides when he gave up I dont know a lot with her

Most rage inducing character? I enjoy making people mad in fighting games.

>>563358059
why the fuck is jacko allowed to have her minions go across the screen but when venom wants to use his balls he has to hit them 8748927894 times to make it half way

what characters hardly require labbing and are top tier/close to it?

>>563358203
she sneeds it

>>563358179
forces the game into single player mode: zato, millia, venom, bridget, leo
can swing any game off big fuck off damage: pot, gold
eternal top tier: nago

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>>563357436
does bedman have weakness?
> agaisnt axl

>>563358179
My top pick would be Goldlewis. I haven't seen another character spark heated arguments so frequently, except perhaps Nago comes second.

>>563358643
How does Bridget force the game into single player mode? She's C Tier at best.

>>563358760
easily boxed out since he's slow, vulnerable to large antiairs
he excels at corner pressure and suffocating blockstrings. getting cornered by bedman leads to suffering
you sort of pay an FD tax for blocking his pressure since if you don't, it's very easy for him to loop his mix forever. big thing on defense to keep an eye out for is when he jump cancels from c.S or 5K. when he does that he's leaving a gap to become plus, usually resetting his pressure and looping it for another blockstring
I think this MU is a 5P matchup. since bed is a fat fuck with a low jump height it'll clip him a lot. bed's 6P is high recovery so representing j.S is good. rainwater is decent in this MU. bed gets clipped trying to jump it sometimes, and most bed players will autopilot into hover which is usually too slow to punish

>>563359815
bridget is a looping vortex character that makes you hold multiple high/lows, with neutral based around interacting as little as possible with 60% screen normals and a projectile
with a DP and pixie backdash so you don't have to hold anything you dont want to
bridget is peak singleplayer vortex rape thats held back by lacking damage

New to Strive, GBVSR refugee
What's the barest, most generalized way to play against Nagoriyuki? It feels like he does literally everything and he can kill you in two touches. If I try to zone him I get clipped by his projectile and he gets a full combo off that, if I try to walk my way in I take a ton of chip damage from his normals, and if I try to play patient he goes in and kills me with high-damage mixups. The main question I'm asking is what range should I be playing at, what blindspots does this character have? I know he has to fill up his blood meter to go in and filling that is almost guaranteed to get him killed, but I don't feel like I can just watch him do that without taking huge amounts of damage.
I ask for general tips but if it matters I'm playing Jack-O, in case there are things most of the cast would do against him that she can't

>>563360657
you accept that nago is strives poster child and choose not to play against nago

>>563360657
>It feels like he does literally everything and he can kill you in two touches
you'd be correct
losing as nago is a choice
he auto wins neutral if he chooses to spend blood then he becomes a button zoner
be patient and forward hop to dodge clone and start baiting his high recovery antiairs
on defense you should FD so you don't get command grabbed. jab fukyo attempts (but not backwards fukyo because then you get counter hit and die)

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>>563360657
pick a character with a long low, wait till he rapes your HP/RISC/meter and jacks blood, gamble between 2H and 2S
pick a character with low AD delay, wait till he rapes your HP/RISC/meter and jacks blood, gamble between 2H and 2S
it's been like this for 5 years by the way, and that's excluding his new special that stalls blood climb

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2.0 bracket set for april 18th 5pm est
global tournament
double elimination ft3
register HERE
https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/VW257aRG8F#/signup/f28yvue9lf

dont be a square just take one hit bro

new to to the game why the fuck is my opponent getting counters as i'm holding block?

Does anyone in here have that webm of the JAV where he girl spits on an old dude and they have the XRD and Strive logos on them?

>>563362210
check blockstun framerate

>>563360657
The thing about Nago is that you have to be extremely comfortable at the matchup to even have a fighting chance at him.
You have to either IB or FDIB his f.ss strings, you have to be able to react to fukyo forward, and you have to be good at fuzzy jumping.
The general way of playing against him is to concede neutral until he's at higher blood, then try and either setup offense using projectiles or getting to commit to a button so you can close the distance and start pressure.
Historically, barring the last version, Nago has been a perennial top tier for the exact reasons you mention. (He actually used to be even more egregious)
The only characters that kind of solved the matchup where HC pre rework, and Zato in the early seasons (because they could safely start real offense on block from a range)

Whats the point of Jams tarot cards if her turn isnt over after her mixup

>>563362343
jam was literally doing a blockstring on me, i'm holding crouch block, every other hit the screen is flashing counter
wtf is this game

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How does Jam see Bridget now

>>563363184
probably hit you with an overhead

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LFGGGGGGG
I'm not celebrating anything I just laughed when i saw elphets victory for the first time 10 mins ago

>>563364228
took me a minute to realize lfg wasn't "looking for group"

>>563364228
I've come close to punching my monitor when this bitch randoms me out and then screams in my ear

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>>563363572
Jam still sees Bridget as a potential waiter and no unique interaction sadly.

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I'm such a retarded gorilla, but it's the only thing that makes me smile. Imagine playing a more passive character and feeling like this.

>>563364510
Yes, this one she just kept doing some blockstring that was 3-4 overheads in a row and everytime i tried to interrupt I would get low crushed. Can you dp it?

>Slayer's game is making the match move at half-speed
>he won't vote to cancel the match
>running mixups and unga approaches like nothing is wrong
How are animals like this allowed to breathe

>>563364228
hag lines

So the lower damage thing was just a meme right
Characters still hit like trucks

how do I stop flowcharting and being too comfortable pressing the same handful of buttons and doing the same options instead of incorporating other moves, just go into games trying to focus on using one at a time?

>>563362413
If youre talking about her Overhead then yeah it says its -1 she recovers the moment she hits the ground so its basically plus. You have to hit her before the move comes out. Her low is -4 though so her turn is definitely over.

>>563365593
Unironically just dont finish combos. When you use c.S on someone's wakeup, dont immediately go into another normal or special. Instead try running back in and using c.S again. Or halfway through a combo, just grab them. Don't start doing wildly dangerous specials and supers just willy nilly.

game still sucks

game still cool

game still gay

game still

game still saucy

*He

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Gio still big.

is sol kill at end of strive
is gg dead
also
>be I-No
>give up heavy metal and put on burqa
>dies

what stuff do I get grenade toss oki on with elphelt in >strive
also when should I be using the bomb vest

>>563370157
bomb vest used to be a really good check mate because 2 touch game
I'm sure its still good because it guarantees your next unblockable mix does big damage, but its less threatening than instant death
use it to wallbreak then you meme mix them post wall break

>>563370292
just run up after the wall break and do grenade toss stuff?

>>563370516
grenade toss or lolipop chainsaw yeah
if you're not worried about DP then chainsaw is more oppressive, especially since im pretty sure the bomb explosion will cover for if you go double low/double high and make you plus to go back whatever you want
probably can combo off tapdust even if you have a read on their mental stack. nobody expects meaty tap dust

>>563370928
ty anon got some stuff to lab tomorrow

Jam's puffball is giving me cancer

top most likely season 5 dlc picks
>zappa with no moves
>kum
>emissary from hell spider-man
>panty and stocking tag character

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>>563372661
There's a 99% chance the last character is Ragna

susanoo mogs every strive character I think

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>>563374252
which would signal that it's time for ブレブル to get raped

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everything this fucker does is plus on block

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>Queue ranked
>Wait 20 minutes
>Matched against guy 400 DR below me
>Win 1 point per game and would lose 15 per loss
>Survive with my points in tact
>Wait another 20 minutes
>Matched into another guy with 400 DR less than me
What the fuck is this matchmaking? It's infinitely worse than last patch even with apparently more players than ever. Am I really gonna have to start using trooncord to get games against decent players??? Fucking get rid of ranked and let me sit in tower at this point

>>563375037
>even with apparently more players than ever.
this isn't sf6, most players are still in plat 2-dia 2
you're going to have to wait a year for ranks to get inflated

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>find every gio art hot as fuck
>ingame she does nothing for me

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>>563375037
Imagine losing to a guy 400DR below LMAO

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>>563375218
Sounds like you need to get better taste in women.

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>>563375037
hackerman has returned to grief the jivers

>>563375286
Please tell me how you can consistently win against Leoniggers who alternate randomly on wakeup/block between DP or grab. Even the best player in the world would find himself in trouble

>>563375286
take it easy

>>563375218
you just need to install the futa mod

I just got back from seeing a movie. What'd I miss?

>>563375218
you need to install the furry mod

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>>563375218
keep it real

/ggg/, you get to pick what movie I see tomorrow that's currently out. There was a tweaker in my theater who during the trailers started straight up screaming at people (myself included), and the theater gave us all free tickets for tomorrow only to see anything. So, what should I go see?

>>563376321
what did you see today?

>>563376321
read a book nigga

>>563376383
Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Re-release for the 40th anniversary. Haven't seen it since middle school.

>>563376432
idk nigga see hail mary or something

>>563376492
Already saw it. I had a movie day last week where I saw: Hoppers, Project Hail Mary, and Stand By Me. I like Guilty Gear but my main interest is film.

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So, what are you guys thinking about 2.0?
Wild Rush's absence is very noticeable. In a good way.
However... the game is still strive.

Last post about it I swear, but as a side thing I also write movie reviews on Letterboxd.

>>563376794
Hoping it's a wake up call to all fighting games about patch culture.

>>563376794
I play the most fun character in the game and I'm having fun
the best part of my gameplay is navigating neutral and defense and I've always sucked at converting into damage, so damage being lowered across the board has been great for me

>>563376794
I'm thinking the balance team is 5 years too late in finally reducing damage
and all that past fuckery to cope with the high damage was a waste of time and money
entire balance team should be stripped of their stipends

>>563376794

I'm having a blast

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>>563377402
>>563377041
happy for you then

>>563356053
I'm putting Damon and Baby back in the OP

Is there a fuzzy mash for Jam's leap because I'm almost 20 hours into this game, only picking it up after this update, and I can't find shit for it

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Got my Sin number up pretty high and I feel I can say that Sin is in a strange spot. He feels downright terrible, but it seems that other characters are in poor spots as well to varying degrees. His resource is frustratingly hard to manage in a way that allows you to keep the pressure on and typically leads you to have to back off completely just to take a bite. Also with how much Sin relied on his supers to wallbreak and continue pressure, now with the meter penalty after super wallbreak, it is effectively a hindrance to do it
This has put into perspective what Sin's biggest issue is though. It's that he has no way to actually make people scared to get hit now. Obviously there's an intrinsic fear to get hit, but Sin flatout cannot make people regret getting hit nearly as much as before. His overhead leads to nothing without meter thus rendering it less useful than tap dust. Elk Hunt doesn't combo without meter and thus isn't a real worry in neutral or pressure. Both of those are also negative on hit without using at least 1 stamina so he is forced to use resource to stop himself from getting the tables turned on him. It's just very tough to work with
I Feel that I play Sin in a rather unique way that is funnily enough somewhat in line with how he plays now, but it's never been a particularly "powerful" way to play him. I always felt that Sin was a character that won from defense since his neutral was and still is really shit so he would have to win from landing a DP and trying to snowball from there. That is flatout gone now and while I appreciate that the gameplan where people refuse to block and are rewarded for it is gone, I can't help but lament that Sin really had to play like that in a number of matchups. Already he struggles immensely against what I can only assume are the top tiers of this patch and I fear that it's only going to get worse as people get more familiar with the new stuff

TLDR; Sin is mid and is only going to get worse as the season goes on

>>563378746
that was an utterly dogshit burst, wow

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WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO MY J.S HOLY SHIT

>>563379339
i just bought this game and you are telling me my character to be is shit?

>>563379623
I didn't say that, plus you aren't gonna be at any level anytime soon where it will matter. Sin is probably one of the best characters to play early on since he is both extremely easy and rewarding to play. You shouldn't have any issues with him

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>>563379486
>j.s is no longer a button
>can no longer combo into turbulenz at all
lmao okay bye

>>563379753
you can't do parry>super anymore??? my combos all feel like they don't work anymore now either lol. holy shit they killed him?

does anyone have some cool jacko corner setups, she has some really insane midscreen ones but i can't really figure out any cool mix in the corner

>>563380673
>you can't do parry>super anymore
oh you can it's just fucking ass and doesn't even wallbreak... seriously

>>563379753
He didn't need it.

>>563381025
this shit is unplayable lol i'm out of here

>Leofag quits when he discovers Leo got nerfs other characters also got
Incredible. I am grateful though since Leo is looking to be undisputed top 1 this season so the less players the better

any late night lobbies?

>>563381267
idk bro every char i've fought tonight has felt pretty much the same as they did before the patch
obviously i'm rusty as i haven't played since fuckin, season 3 or so but jesus christ this is ass

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>>563358059
Oh lordie.

>leo gets nerfs that actually do something for the first time in his history
>he's still top tier because almost everyone else got hit worse, leo even got a pressure compensation buff while other characters just got brutally murdered no refunds
>UOHHH THIS IS UNPLAYABLE
you love to see it

>>563381670
i havent been paying attention to this shit game lol

I miss that mentally crippled Leo player who couldn't do his supers, yet still managed to perform.

>>563381893
he wasn't mentally crippled he just didnt have hands
he suffers in dix now

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>>563380760
Fellow new Jack-O main, I've just been doing basic stuff and it's working for me. I get an HKD into servant setup and then rotate
>2K 2D 214K, staggered varying amounts to catch mashing or delay mashing
>(optional 2K into) 5[D] (or 2K 5D RC), servant getting hit makes it safe-ish or entirely safe depending on where it's positioned)
>throw, or 214K reset into throw
>walk up jump to catch the delay tech
>shimmy
>meaty 214S if it's a character with a meterless DP
I'm curious what you're doing midscreen because I find myself getting pushed out of the above there. I love doing left/right shenanigans with Pom in TFH but Strive's weird delayed air dash makes it super hard for me to figure anything out with that in this game

>>563382207
https://streamable.com/un34a1

>>563382426
That's sick
I haven't been using her 214H at all, probably memories to the short time I tried the game out when it had that free weekend with the XBox patch. It's actually good now that it's meterless, right?

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>no aswg
but i thought we were having fun talking about blazblue and tokon?

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>>563382546
bomb has gotten a lot of buffs over the years, there is a bunch of setups and block strings you can do with it now and they are all worth to learn. probably a simple one that doesn't require you to get good at the j.S > j.P fuzzy is
2K > 2D > 236P > 6H(1) (minion hit) > 214H
and from there you have a strike throw mix, where if you throw them the bomb will allow you pick up the combo

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>>563382742
I didn't notice it was gone.

>>563382742
Sorry but Strive is back so better talk about it in fg threads on /v/.

>>563382953
>Strive is back
it's fucking dogshit and they didn't even fix hc

Nago has literally no weakness now. Everyone's damage got nerfed but he still does 50% with two buttons. And they compeltely removed his limiter with new move, he has another chance to kill you. His round stealing potential is insane too.
It's so stupid how top tiers in this game just stay the same for years and nothing really changes. Fighting Nago now is like reliving Season 1 again.

stance jump is very fucking funny though

>>563382742
pic is what i do to all the females in this general btw

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>>563383452

>>563382742
UOOOHHHH Embryo Storage erotic!!!

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jank ah new mechanic

>>563384014
I don't speak nihongo
what is this

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>>563384014
It turns out that when you recycle a jank mechanic and its animations for something else, you get a lot of new jank.

is there a lobby?
if not, ill make one (im eu (all welcome))

>>563384318
I'll join (I'm NA(my connection will probably be terrible))

>>563384318
sorry, but this will be an NA lobby when I come in.

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Need more tech like this.

>>563384368
>>563384453
Its da robby (kyspeak for it's the lobby)
164713
im a gold1 jam ape

>>563384138
The range of the various characters' nu wild assaults.

>>563384138
Sol's counter blitz can wallbreak further away from the wall than other champs apparently

>jam's va
holy fuck
how do jamfags exist
what the actual fuck

Super dogshit player here struggling with performing basic inputs like half circle back consistently. I checked out ranked play today and I was shocked that despite me being bottom of the barrel beyond hope I was still getting matched with players who would consistently do their characters bread and butter. Am I really just that shit?

>>563385243
WATAAAAAAAA

>>563385243
Is it the same va as Xrd? Her voice felt less annoying.

>>563385374
i dont think that someone is actually making this bitch's noises into a microphone, it has to be edited to be pitched up. ive played against her in +r and xrd but this is a new level of ear damage

Jam is the litmus test for gayness
If you like Jam, you're probably straight
But if you hate Jam, you're probably gay

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>>563385291
Yes, but when you're a total newbie shitter, improvement happens quickly.

>>563364905
It's insane the amount of people that are like this, they play through the match like it's completely normal.

>>563377265
I think it's pretty clear that the people responsible for 2.0 are mostly completely different from the earlier balance team and most of the retards moved on to Tookon considering the direction that game took.

me thinks Johnny needs a DP

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Why does Jam get to have 5 lows?

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>>563385243
it's because the game is slower thus the earrape is prolonged
crunched up 24kbps unintelligible Japanese was fine when it was competing against the other shit

>>563385291
Play on your keyboard or get a lever less controller. Big boost to your execution.

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>>563375218
Look harder.

>>563385560
more like the litmus test for tourism
if you like jam you jerk off to images of her in silence
but if you hate jam you probably play guilty gear and cant stand the earrape

how the fuck did i play 850 hours of this
lmao holy fucking shit

>>563387039
What is your rank?

>>563387039
Means you are a true GG player.

>>563387082
iron 2 why

how do i overcome jam's stubbyness

>>563384560
ggs
unika is kinda sexy when you notice her hips

>>563387185
Use her fullscreen specials.

>>563387189
ggs
i really need to figure out an answer to setting the pace
i am 100% sure i am missing something maybe one of the cards is the play

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So when will we admit it wasn't a good game?

why did they change sin's menu announcer voice line? lol. he doesn't say "sin" anymore. he says "SEEN KISKE"

>fighting millia is still 3 90 second rounds of watching her jump around and press kapel
>s eisen has traded with shit randomly all night
>had my 2s get 6p'd at max range by faust
this game is so fucking bad holy FUCKING shit

>>563387082
i was celestial every month then s3 dropped and i uninstalled

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>>563384560
ggs
my power inhibitor rings were to make sure my PC doesn't brick from the speed of my inputs
ill have to remove 1 of them in the future against this Ky it seems..

ggs lil gups

Are tower and ranked two different things?

>>563387269
puffball is strong
I haven't played a ton of jams but from what I can tell she enforces a careful neutral with puffball and 236K which creates space to run in. typically super fast characters will dash block and throw out a 2D or 5H to catch people trying to check movement but it sorta looks like jam uses puffball
puffball to neutral skip, puffball as an active disjoint
puffball

and why does every fucking dlc character now need to have a 10 second long super animation
is this how they're coping with not having the budget to make instant kills for max dood to react to? this is ass

>>563387412
Wdym danger time and yellow RC is fun.

>>563387757
>she enforces a careful neutral
puff
ball

>>563387672
Ranked is a mode where you queue up and get matched into people of (hopefully) your rank. You gain points if you win and lose them if you lose. There are ranks depending on how many points you have and once you get enough you enter vanquisher mode where you have a rating that goes up or down to compete with other people
Tower is a place where you can match into anyone you want. You see someone on a station? You can play them if you want and the same applies to others. While there is a tiering system to vaguely determine strength. It hardly matters since you can always go to floor 10 even if you're ranked floor 1. There is the Celestial floor where if you win enough in floor 10 as a floor ten ranked player, you get the celestial challenge where you must win 5/6 games while there to get access to the floor. It's probably not something you'll mess with too early on since you seem new, but it's there and you can use it to gauge skill

>>563387185
Dash in closer. Duh.

>>563387412
it looked good for the time...

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>>563387412
I accepted that fact in 2019, during a long ass break from fighting games, but it didn't dawn on me just how flawed of a game it was until strive came out.
My biggest gripe, even back when I hadn't yet decided that the gameplay itself was bad, was the art design. People shit on strive for not being metal and guilty gear, but Xrd was just straight up blazblue garbage crossed with a generic fantasy anime.

>>563388712
Blazblue has good designs thougheverbeit. They make my peepee hard.

edging between matches but mm is so fucking slow in this game that i accidentally came. char for this feel?

It's insane that ranked is still first to 2. The stupid faggot Japs that make this game should be ashamed they put it out like this

>>563388805
BB is a generic anime game, so the designs work in it. Pointy, sharp noses and chins that could cut glass don't work in guilty gear.

finna blood credit card install safejump 6H RC 6H wallsplat 6H

>>563385291
don't listen to what retards in the strive community say. Ranked has not and will never be the "best way to learn the game" and if anything is the worst way to learn it. It's like trying to learn tennis and the only way to learn is getting matched up with players infinitely better than you and nothing else. A closer analogy to this would be trying to learn tennis and getting matched up with Serena Williams. You can most certainly learn things from playing against better people, it's just that there's an obvious limit to that which makes it something that isn't definitive.

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>>563388809
Sin.

>>563384560
ggs baiken
disbanded the lobby!

>>563389472
Ggs

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>>563387412
people born into the dash macro will never touch it
for the price of one Ken Miyauchi, they could incentivize trying Rev2 (or +R) by tying achievements/whatever the fuck to gay little unlocks in Strive
I'd definitely play for a palette swap for example

>>563389705
i was born into dash macro and still dont use it because 5 buttons is already a lot in a genre that rivals apm to that of rts

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>Streetfighter collab leaked
Thoughts?

>>563389884
Nvm I got pranked

>>563379339
Yeah... It's bleak. I'm losing games to the actual most scrubby players since they play a character that does what Sin does but better and without stamina. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say MUs against characters like Chipp, Millia, and Gio are 7-3 against him. They feel so unwinnable

>>563379339
>TLDR; Sin is mid and is only going to get worse as the season goes on
Easy characters being mid is perfect
I dont want Sin to be "good"
I also don't want Leo or Pot to be good but yet here we are
But Sin is in a good spot right now, I wish more characters were

>>563390401
I meant Mid in a derogatory way like how young guys use it. I would agree that this would be fine if other characters abided by it, but the matter of fact is that they don't and Sin is a character that kills himself by trying to play. He's tied to a resource that deliberately plays against him and unlike a character like Nago who gets better in certain ways, Sin is just bad

yes we get it kytard all your chars are dogshit mid and the others are amazing and have 9-1 MUs against you

unika is fun!
I love hitting people's block!!
>zap zap zap
hahahahaha stupiiiiid I'm plus stupiiiiiid hahahahaha

Johnny needs a DP

>>563390401
This but with hard characters.

>>563391368
DPs are gay.

Where can I learn about the system mechanics of 2.0?

the matchmaking seems absolutely fucked
I thought this had crossplay

hey baby girl
yeah, you
you look like a real striver
you get me?

>>563391710
yeah i think the game is in a good place but the MM is so bad im just gonna drop it again
you clearly connect to someone in the first minute of searching but the connection drops and it resets like 3 times

>checking connection
>searching for opponent...
>0:03
>checking connection
>searching for opponent...
>0:02
>checking connection
>searching for opponent...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>563390926
I am hopeful that this is why they postponed the new (ranked) season for a slew of changes when it releases
It's clear they missed the mark on a few characters but in general I think a lot of characters that feel "mid" are in a good state right now
There are just some outliers like Sol, Millia, Pot and Nago that feel relatively untouched like they belong to a different game entirely

>>563391710
>>563391927
>>563392047
thats what you get for living in third world region

>>563392047
>sunday prime-time europe
>searching for opponent...
>0:03...
>0:45...
>1:52...
>3:36...
>checking connection
>0:03...

how
did they break it again
there are 4x the amount of players playing but before the patch i had back-to-back matches, at most 1min waiting

>>563391927
>>563392326
In all likelyhood the connection drops because it didn't meet your minimum connection quality setting. Set your preferences to any region and connection quality 2 or higher then screen your matches (eg don't match 150ms wifi, unless that's normal for your region).

>>563391710
I keep hearing this but I don't have any trouble. It's possible there's a load related issue but ranked release had a ton of people in queue; it's possible it a bug with the update or recent infrastructure issues but that's impossible to know. I speculate that most people are labing or playing park / friendly matches to re-learn their character rather than being in ranked. It's also worth noting that most of the game's population is in NA where it's currently 4-7am on a Sunday.

https://x.com/As192120/status/2043260448858927199

it's all bots set to auto-decline matches
ez

>>563392506
I do have it like that and I regularly accept 120ms connections

>15 minute queue
>get matched against an 1800 DR opponent
>I'm diamond
o-ok

>>563390319
I thought Gio was honest or was I lied to

>>563392809
What do you think honest means? Like, fair? Or do you mean they don't have tricks or unreactable stuff?

>>563392809
Once you play more GG you're gonna realize to never listen to Ky/Sin players.

tried this game again after 1100 hours and uninstalling around s3

i think a lot of the changes are nice but overall im still very bored with the game and don't feel like playing it anymore.

I don’t have time to learn combos and lab anymore, who is the easiest and most braindead character in the game so I can just focus on reads and nooch?

>>563392506
I'll try Any Region
So far fighting USbros itt has been rather smooth w/ 2-3f rollback but not sure if that's an unskilled opinion

>>563392913
Isn't the best player from here a Ky player? Wouldn't that mean he knows shit?

So odd that all the Russians are trouble online.

Better that way no one has to suffer them.

>>563392975
yeah hes also a compulsive downplayer

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>>563393162
My hero...

>>563392861
neutral focused, no fucking bullshit i.e clear counterplay that you can react to if you're looking out for it
I will admit her blockstrings ending in that wolf kick feel kind of scrubby since I'm used to being massively punished if I fail a hit confirm but I don't know if that's a strive thing

>>563393193
Damn what a GOAT.

>>563393202
Well she does certainly have a neutral focus, and it's to the point where her neutral is impressively hard to beat. On top of that, she has really good ways to combo and convert from those stray hits in neutral and on top of even that she has great ways to set up more offense from those stray hits like safe jumps and really strong strike throw. I will say, there isn't really counterplay for her since her movement and buttons are so good that there isn't really a way to really counter her outright other than catching her

>>563392809
Gio is, unironically, honest
Honesty (scalar) is essentially predictability where a honest character cannot use game mechanics in order to create situations that are beyond the scope of the game
Throwing a projectile as Ky and DPing someone jumping over it is honest
Stealing the corner with Baiken and having the matt land just before it is dishonest

Usually characters that have lingering effects that they can do while still being able to move
Rachel from BB, Puppet characters ect.

Sometimes people correlate it to moves that look alike as well where it's not clear what's going to happen like Jam's High/Low where they can feint it
Nago's Sword stretching far longer than what it looks like when he's holding it
Bedman or Faust's screen clutter

Gio in that regard is quite honest

>>563392809
If you think honest = bad, then no, she is not honest

>>563388951
Whatever you do, don't look at Daisuke's art!

>>563393467
Well I think an honest character's strength would vary wildly entirely on the player

Do you like/enjoy fighting Jam? is the MU fun?
I plan to play her but I am curious to how it feels like to fight her now that the dust has settled.

>>563393592
no its aids

Strive is a game that will look good forever. Do you think Arc Sys will be able to get people to move over to a new game?

>>563393592
She's fine to play against. Every character can be annoying, but she doesn't have anything that would be super-egregious. Puffball having a massive anti-air hitbox while also low-profiling and being disjointed is mad dumb, but I imagine it will among the first things addressed when they start making balance adjustments to her.

>>563393592
lotta annoying plus frames
high damage
jumpscares
has bandit bringer but it hits low
i don't HATE fighting her but i wouldn't say i enjoy fighting her

>>563393795
Already happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwKTwP0Z63E

>>563393795
i think gbvsr is the best looking arcsys game to date. even better than tokon

Xrd is a game that will look good forever. Do you think Arc Sys will be able to get people to move over to a new game?

>>563393795
i still kinda think it looks worse than xrd, the washed out 3D environments don't age as well as "we're trying to put a 2D anime in 3D" i think

like look at the story mode environments, they're actively ugly a lot of the time

>>563393534
That's gonna be true of pretty much any character then. No matter how bad a character could be, if the player is simply that good then he could make it work. They could block every mix, tech every throw, and bait every defensive option and win. The thing about character choice is that characters do different things and that means they will inevitably have strengths and weaknesses. And if a character has abundant strengths and minimal weaknesses, that can make up for any flaws in the player themselves. Basically, Gio has very strong strengths, and her weaknesses are negligible or easy to compensate for

A dishonest character can be played honestly
A honest character can be played dishonestly

>>563393795
unironically Xrd was KOFXII-tier autistic with the independent lighting and manual smearing, and almost bankrupt them the same
you can always mistake it for pure sprites in motion, which makes me sadder that they "gave up" in Strive

Let's talk about Jam's 3 Card moves.
>Ryuujin
Normal Dragon Kick. Fast, and hits hard. Just the same move since forever for Jam. Nothing surprising.
>Carded Ryuujin
Getting hit by this does not feel good at all. Even the Clean Hit version, which only activates if done in a combo fucks you up so bad. This version is vastly strong (imo) than the XRD version.

>Gekirin
Overhead Kick. GGST version is way slower compared to previous versions. It's relatively safe, but I honestly think it's kinda meh. If you can get away with it that means the opponent is not really paying attention.
>Carded Gekirin
Now this move is cheap. You'd rather want to card up Ryuujin or her Ryuutsui. That said, it's not worth to card up this move solo. But if you can get it while charging for all 3 moves. Then yeah it's nice.

>Ryuutsui
Her new slide special. This is honestly her best special. It's so versatile in neutral and combos and it will almost always catch anyone. Also helps that it's almost the same animation startup as Gekirin.
>Carded Ryuutsui
Trying to fight this (on block and neutral) will just get you killed. If Jam has this on deck, be much more vigilant.

Honesty just means "how much character-specific knowledge is required to play as or against the character". You can have someone like Daigo pick up a honest character in a matter of minutes, and also know how to play against a honest character after a few rounds. Dishonest character will require hours of labbing for both playing as and against them.

>>563394360
>If you can get away with it that means the opponent is not really paying attention.
>it's almost the same animation startup as Gekirin.
You're not very bright, are you?

Sin should be able to cancel his specials into eat

>>563394151
I think only good players can do all that stuff whereas a bad player playing dishonest character could not bother to learn any of that and still win due to character bullshit.

>>563394686
But that might make him decent so we can't do that
Honestly, eat hardly does anything as it, but that would at least be kinda cool

Sin should be able to cancel his specials into other specials at the cost of stamina, which he should be able to replenish with eat.

>>563394570
Normal Gekirin is so fucking slow that even if you crouch block > look > look again > "Oh it's Gekirin" > Stand Block, you'll still block it.
Unlike her Slide where it's kinda instant, but not really. So if you're already crouch blocking, even without reacting to it you'll block it.

>>563394753
They should make a game like that. I'm sure more people would play that instead of Strive

I haven't played since season 1. Does Ram just literally never ever shoot her sword now that she cant pick it up?

>>563394360
Too bad none of her cards really help her with what she struggles with.
Look up any high level replay and most of it is just Jam blocking for 20-30 seconds and being patient
She's a monster when she finally gets in though

>>563394954
>She's a monster when she finally gets in though
They got scared and removed her DP for that reason.

>>563395216
She has really big issues against air movement honestly which is ironic considering she forced people to play on the ground in xrd

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LMAO
Nice """rework""", Daisuke! Are you ready for 5 more years of this cancer? Keep on rokingu!

>>563396286
And EVO Japan is in two weeks...

>>563396286
Literally just instant block / FD bro

>>563396286
It's okay because it's hard bro. Do you even fighting games?

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>>563396286
>give Nago stopgap to ape out
>give Leo jump in backturn
>give Chaos aimbot
5 more years

Saya wa doku ni?

Sure is fun being stuck in gold and not able to downrank because of this dog shit MM system

>>563397459
There is no difference between Iron and Platinum

>>563396286
Meanwhile Testaments everything got nerfed to balance out the crazy double stain tech.

>>563397535
then let me downrank

>>563391696
By mashing against people while reading dustloop.

>>563396286
>even with "massive" rework patch HC,Leo and Nigo are still top 5 after 5 years
I kneel arcsys.

>>563392535
He can just spin the BB portal bullets.

To carry on our discussion about honesty. I think Jam is fucking bullshit from the few times playing her (def more than any other character).
Barely reactable full screen neutral skips that hit low? Jump in baits? That also hit low? Come on.Please tell me counter play if there is any I'm getting murdered here

>>563394832
Imagine if they put a bootleg version of Bang from blazblue in it. It'd be so fucking popular.

>>563396286
This is fucked up, nerf Asuka.

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>>563396286
Spin the fucking bullets.

The white susanoo

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>>563394904
Correct.

>>563398764
ram has become such a different person from her xrd self, el too really

I really want some popcorn from Gekioh right now.

>>563398878
Because they weren't people at all during the Xrd part of the story.

>>563399306
I know, I now understand cross franchiers when they would compare them to murakumo units, Nu, Noel and Lambda have changed alot from how they were as well, same with Es ignoring the azure copy that's on the roster I wonder if Mori and Daisuke still talk, I can't imagine he would dip his toes into Blazblue's stuff without talking to the guy behind it

It's a bit embarassing, but I'd like to apologize to my Kizzingtons from yesterday in the lobby because I quite literally fell the fuck asleep.

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>>563399518
I don't think they were merely workplace friends, so they probably still talk.

Kinda want more villain characters in guilty gear
Everyone is just a redeemed good person now

can't downrank to play pepole at my skill level, sure is fun losing 30 games in a row at gold 1 and not being able to derank i'm just uninstalling now

>>563400290
Asuka R# should become evil.

>>563400290
Ariels still evil iirc and the undisputed Nerville.

>>563400421
>>563400582
Playable* villain characters

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>>563400290
That's how it's kinda always been, though. They need to make a guilty gear game set during the end of the crusades, before everyone got reformed, or turned into pussies.

Honestly the biggest improvement of this patch is that sauceless characters (jack, hc, venom) now have actual sauce

>>563400698
Honestly this and a good way to bring back the more heavy metal aesthetic. Maybe we'll get more playable gear characters.

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>accidentally input super instead of puffball
>accidentally input H card instead of 236H

can you not even choose the floor of the tower anymore?...

>>563400290
Well Guilty Gear is kinda over now, Daisuke seems intent on just side stories like Urieka and formulating a new world with Daemon and Baby, a world where Guilty Gear and Blazblue have become intertwined and characters who existed in both are here, through as far as I know only Ragna has changed significantly, Happy Chaos and I-No are in it but I haven't seen their scenes as far as I know those two could have shown up via time travel

but isn't there one utter bastard of a villain in the series that hasn't reappeared? Crow? the guy who was basically Relius Clover before Relius? I remember him because one of Dizzy's bad endings is being captured and tormented by that guy, but I don't think he ever appeared in Xrd to Strieve did Daisuke ever say whatever happened to that putz?

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>>563400979
Less of the cancerous characters would be in, too, which would be a good thing.

>>563400979
And holy knights. Maybe we'll get a female holy knight character.

Should I buy damon and baby?

>>563401345
I don't think Crow is going to come back, there's basically no reference to him past XX and he's not even as well known as Fanny or Leopaldon.

>>563401886
Crow is just a generic evil scientist that Daisuke decided to add after he finished reading Hellsing.

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What are some good ways to utilize negative edge with Zato? I hear it's crucial to his kit and I understand how it works but the only use I'm getting out of it is holding down my HS for Zatos HS to come out and then pressing and letting go usually either K for drills or S for Frog, instead of getting the HS oppose I normally would have gotten for pressing HS.
What are some classic zato set ups or high damage situations that incorporate negative edge?
Should I always be trying to get Eddie behind the opponent first and foremost with drills? I just need to know where to start my offense, I'm relying so hard on 6p into invite hell then summoning Eddie into some bullshit halfhearted combo. I want to do so much more...

What exactly is the point of Ram's rock? Is it just a poke if you are somehow getting zoned out of sword swinging range?

>>563402332
Zato got downgraded bro just throw eddie behind people and do 30 second blockstrings with 12 true back-to-back 50/50 crossups

>>563402414
It vacuums them towards it, so if you use it when they're near the corner, you can threaten throws and pressure.
If it hits, you can c.S them.

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Is this sort of playstyle easily counterable? It's the first time I've thought "well that was fucking obnoxious" while playing this game. Is it not my turn to press after they waste oki to backdash?

jam does way too much damage

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>Ram and Elphelt will get their xrd costumes added
>but not the xrd costumes we want

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Anyone would be interested in a EU lobby?
Things to know:
>I'm super shit
>My ethernet has this terrible habit of just dropping for whatever reasons, resetting fix the issue but it won't change the fact that we're running the risk of everyone simultaneously getting bouted out
Although I say EU, pretty much everyone is welcome, jus tbe prepared that if you're WC your latency is going to be doodoo

Outside of their love interests Leo and Nago what exactly do these two do anymore? Were they even in the new anime?

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>>563403343
>They decided to add the xrd costumes we want
>Adds Elphelt sign costume
>Forgot to add Elphelt rev costume

What exactly is the counter to puffball? It low-profiles, anti-airs, resets to neutral on block, has massive reward, and is massively disjointed so even if you try to poke it with low moves of your own you will likely just explode.

>>563403393
yea make the lobby

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>>563403778
Cool, lemme launch the game

>>563403393
who did you main in rising?

>>563403393
wheres is the lobby?

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>>563403457
They are waiting for their mom to be playable.

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>>563403778
>>563404001
>>563404078
560041

Room rules:
Platform: All
Region: All
FT3

>>563404053
Djeeta

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>>563356053
cute Ferry

>>563403609
>They decided to add the xrd costumes we want
Holy shit, really? This almost makes feel like playing again.

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>>563402332
float still sucks. just oppose into drunkard. You will have to guage whether your opponent threw themselves into oppose before you drunkard and start ng them. You can also end with oppose after comboing. Oppose will use no Eddie meter if you drunkard before the actual attack and Eddie will fly towards the opponent, even behind them at some ranges. Also just break the law if you have no tension or Eddie Meter, if you have tension but no Eddie Meter then Execute to resummon Ed. Also make sure to start flying sometimes with Eddie behind the opponent, all they will get is the icon of their own location, they will not know where Eddie is and likely forget to block. Godspeed fellow Zatochad.

>>563404627
Nah I'm just assuming. It would be cool if they really add legacy costumes.

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>>563404720
Oh. I haven't read or seen anything about the new patch and though they might have added something like that as a bonus. Oh well.

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>>563404714
God bless thanks for the good tips, very insightful

>>563404840
So far they confirmed alt costumes and accessories. No info on legacy costumes yet. Maybe we'll get more info on EVO Japan.

I thought it would be cool if Testament got a classic skin that also redid some of his animations to be less faggy, but then I remembered I would be still stuck playing a basic bitch fireball zoner instead of a cool trap character.

They should have released the battle pass right away. Would have kept more people around.

>>563403758
Be a married uggo male. Jam has hidden modifiers that make her moves do worse in regards in their reward on hit and exclusive bad throws throws when successfully landed on married uggos.

>>563387412
yellow rc is the worst thing a bout rev2
I LIED THE WORST THING IS DANGER TIME

>>563405449
Why?

>>563387412
I don't think any Guilty Gear is really enjoyable to play. Applies to most ArcSys fighters, honestly. Cool to look at and play with friends when no one knows what they are doing, though.

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Jambros the AXL didn't take your spot we were just all having a turn since the lobby was populated with an uneven amount of people.
It's your again

>>563379705
thank you anon. i hope to be a sin enjoyer within the next 1200 hours.

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JOIN UP guys we still got loads of space

>>563405449
Nah, Danger time is a random party game thing that happens once in maybe every 10 rounds, whereas YRC happens several times in every round. YRC is far more destructive and disrupting to the game. Honestly Danger Time isn't even in the top 5 worst things about Xrd.

>>563387412
It will never be worse than Strive.

is there per character ranking

Will GG5 have IKs?

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Why does her hitspark look like hokkaido?

>>563404714
Float doesn't suck as much, and due to the pierce change it actually becomes part of the pierce on block RPS. Also, it's techincally slightly more efficient to use for oki as opposed to raw summon and moving Eddie.

>>563402332
learn the fucking rising j.p mix i told you yesterday
https://youtu.be/JiJB7vAKZO4?t=509
3 year old video that for a mixup that is still one of the best in the game get in training mode and start practicing bub

CAN YOU HEAR THE BELLS DING DONG

>>563403119
It is if you actually wake up with a button. If you try to react to the backdash you're probably eating shit.
So either commit to the hard read and wake up with something or just block.

why do wake up reversals feel like ass in this game
they never come out

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I don't think its a hot take to say that Strive is the best looking fighting game ever made. That being said the next Guilty Gear is something like 2 years away? How could ArcSys make it look even better?

>>563407868
the next GG isn't coming out any time soon man

>>563407868
While Strive is a contender the best looking fighting game so far is MK1. The graphics are better than most AAA games

>>563407989
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>563407989
luh mao

>>563407918
Wasn't Xrd to Strive about 6 years? SF5 to SF6 was also about 6 years? Tekken7 to Tekken8 was about 7 years? Why is it wrong to say the next Guilty Gear is about 2 years away?

>>563407868
The next "guilty gear" will be a completely "new" fighting game that will be blazblue x guilty gear under a new title non-collab
they have been setting it up for 5 years now
Wouldn't be surprised if the 3rd/4th DLC character is a BB character
Perhaps Rachel or Ragna or both

>>563407868
>That being said the next Guilty Gear is something like 2 years away?
Strive is planned to have more seasons so no new game in sight.
>How could ArcSys make it look even better?
I think it's already better so far including Tokon. Just maybe don't put more visual clutters and remove mini cinematic cameras during fights.

>>563407868
The best looking fighting game will never be a 3DPD game. People have gaslit themselves into thinking 3D models look good.

It has been so long since I played strive that Ram has blended together with my memory of xrd Ram and I thought strive Ram still had perfect dauro and the spinning blade super

So whats up with Unika this patch?
Is she really just a better nago with projectiles and an easier win condition now?