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Emperor's Crib Edition

>Update 12.0 patch notes:
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/356-patch-notes-12-0

>Hotfix 12.2 patch notes
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/367-hotfix-12-2-patch-notes

>February Community update
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/355-february-community-update

>Year 2 Roadmap:
https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg

>Where to get the game:
https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2

>Lore Stuff:
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general

>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):
Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.

>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview

>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/

>Recommended prestige perks:
https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg

>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:
https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/

>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:
https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks

>Other useful links:
https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB

Previously on the Battle-Barge: >>562513407
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shit bake
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First for the Grey Knights. Also, it would've fun to have a small GK squad appear somewhere on Demerium during the incursions. Even if they were just doing their own thing in the background so that Titus and co. would still have their own part to do.
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>>563392304
Zamn, Big E's place is THAT big?
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>>563392638
>Also, it would've fun to have a small GK squad appear somewhere on Demerium during the incursions
On my first campaign playthrough I thought it would've been neato if during that banner last stand part Draigo phased out of the warp for a split second downing some larger chaos unit and gave Smurfs extra few seconds before Ultra Depressed Man arrives.
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Iron Hands rule!
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>>563393474
I used to be a Pokemon fan too as a kid, Brother. But that was a very long time ago. Cool that it's something you enjoy and thanks for sharing!
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>>563392304
me in the sprawl magnifican
begging for coins
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>>563393474
>oh, you think iron is your ally. But you merely adopted the iron; I was born in it, molded by it. i didn't see the flesh until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but WEAKNESS!
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I can't stop laughing.
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The chat's fucked. What do you guys wanna do now?
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>>563395710
just got off my 16 hour shift at the ball crushing factory
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>>563395812
Just some regular absolute. I don't want to go through that shit again.
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>Ushabti Bone
There is no better paint
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Do you know what class can get the most Purity seals?
A: Tact
B: Vanguard
C: Assault

The correct answer is Tact at 11 with the Imperial Guard shoulder, followed by Assault at 10.
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>>563399064
>you're welcome
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>>563401062
Who knew undead Egyptians would be such a kino combination
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Which chapter is going to give the most kino greatsword experience when it drops?
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>>563405329
Blood Angels obviously
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>>563405329
Pic related sounds like an idea.
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>>563406048
Its such a shame that BTs are universally 12 and terrible players
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>>563399064
Is it worth the UM pack? Thinking about getting that for DG colors and the raven champ for the silenced bolt pistol for my sniper. Been using Wraithbone for my DG colors but it's somehow too shiny and White Scar is too clean.
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>>563405995
If it's an eviscerator then BA, relic blade is DA or BT.
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>>563409215
>is a slightly better off-white worth the price of an entire DLC
Final value judgement is up to you but the UM DLC is among the worst for value out of the lot.
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>>563409870
still the only way to get purple iirc
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>>563401058
>Valius earning most accolades out of the rest of his Brothers
Plus, you gotta love his commitment and cheerful demeanor.
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>>563413067
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>>563415264
Pretty dank memes out there on the Internets.
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Threadly reminder that lightning claws are rad as fuck.
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>>563393474
>Iron Hands rule
Lol. White Scars are better.
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>>563427962
There's nothing to talk about
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>>563428094
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>>563392106
shitter cant play hard strats. what a surprise. God forbid you play the other modifiers when you finish the weekly.
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are there any interesting things you can do with grapple other than execute aoe damage?
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>>563405329
Black templars or dank angels if you're a traitor enjoyer
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>BT or BA fan
>get to whitewash your smurfs
>SW fan
>permanigger

hmm
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>>563430631
i just tried melee damage maxing with the knife and it was shit. vanguard is nothing without his aoe execute
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>>563430631
I like Vanguard, but his issues stem from "you hyperfocus on a Warrior/Spawn/Rubric in a blob and then grapnel halfway across the room the second your armor is stripped" being how you're expected to play him. If it wasn't for the 30% Extremis heal, 5% Majoirs heal, and armor regen on grapnel use perks keeping him alive, he'd be permanently dead the second you fucked up a parry
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>>563438153
>taking the 5% heal instead of the nukechain talent
His biggest issue is extremely jank hook targeting and getting his hook resets stolen by teammates
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>>563439359
Don't forget his executes getting stolen by a warrior/spawn leaping into your path. I love Vanguard for the utility he brings but trying to go for grapnel chains is like having blue balls half the time.
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>>563439359
I open with the grapnel to squeeze as much damage out of Bolt Carbine headshots as possible rather than closing with it
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>>563439773
You're missing out on a second of headshots into just hooking twice to kill an entire brood without being in danger, I'd say. That is, when the hook targetting doesn't fuck you like >>563439491 mentioned.
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>>563439359
>extremely jank hook targeting
its reliable when you are in scope with occulus
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>>563438153
>if it wasn't for his op abilities he would be dead
What an astute observation Sherlock
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>>563449026
Thank you Watson, I would be nothing without your support
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dead game
patch never
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I jus cant carry them, you all suck so bad

i need my contested health
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im going back to minecraft
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>want to use plasma on tact
>have to switch pauldron emblem to fire support
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browsing the minis i think we need these guys. seems like sniper has no interesting weapons left. all he'll ever get is a knife.
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>>563459783
wtf is that goofy ass thing?
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>>563461668
I think they look cool because they remind me of the ryno
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>>563461668
i think it could be cool, basically an inverse plasma in which you click and then have a cooldown instead of having to charge. they could give it targeting copy pasting the vanguard grappel hook targeting.
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>>563458912
>Not using Vet heraldry on Tac.
You can be self conscious about your skills but I assure you it's better than agonizing about all the fucking roles Tactical can do.
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had a weird interaction where i got my full auspex back. i think maybe the auspex on parry also triggered my -50% cd perk
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>sniper hits neurothrope so hard that it instantly summons more extremis to rape us while were rolling around to avoid the aoe shock areas
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sometimes there needs to be 3 terminus per map
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>>563417690
makes sense
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>>563392638
More like second for the Gay Knights lol
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>>563484905
>Gay Knights
forgot pic?
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>>563486016
are we pretending dark angels are gay now?
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>>563486160
Pretending?
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The coop characters are all mindwiped blackshields who survived warp exposure like Titus
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>>563486347
Considering it's painfully obvious this game was meant to be Deathwatch shenanigans (based on vastly different character sterotypes i.e. Decimus making wolf jokes or Straban having Iron Hand autistic personality), what you posted isn't too far off the mark.
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>>563486268
I'm more amused by
>now?
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>that animation where a Guardsman pretty much leg presses a Hormagaunt off themselves and shoots it in the face
>Hormagaunts weigh 440lbs on average
LIGHT WEIGHT BABYYYYYYY
HWOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>Broooo dodge assault is so good now!
>Press dodge
>Fifty thousand enemies around you attacking you
>no refund
Great design
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>last brother standing as Sniper
>game suddenly becomes substantially easier
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>>563490569
gaunts being mountain lion sized instead of large dog sized was always kind of dumb to me
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>>563490569
also 440 isn't that impressive of a leg press and it can probably be easier if its an off balance creature instead of even weight
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>>563490569
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>>563491552
larger
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>>563491319
have you seen a tibetan mastiff
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>>563493289
Yes and they're sub 200lbs. English mastiffs and great danes are bigger but even they aren't as heavy as gaunts despite being a fair bit larger. Gaunts should be just waves and waves of war dogs not lions.
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>>563491429
>also 440 isn't that impressive of a leg press
Not in the controlled environment of a gym where the weight is evenly distributed on a machine built to be moved in that specific way, but lifting a mountain lion-sized vicious alien creature off of yourself when it's literal sole purpose in life is to kill and devour you, when you yourself are probably already starving and exhausted, is another thing entirely.
>and it can probably be easier if its an off balance creature instead of even weight
Pic related. It's weight would be shifting all over the place as it tried to get at you and there would be no secure spot to place your feet unlike the footplate on a leg press machine.
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>>563494968
>It's weight would be shifting all over the place as it tried to get at you
Sure but that can work against it on a creature as oddly proportioned as a hormagaunt. Shit is weighted like a hog, it has no leverage just sheer mass, if you can get solid foot placement on all those ridges best it can do is slash at your legs as you blow its brains out.
>Not in the controlled environment of a gym where the weight is evenly distributed on a machine built to be moved in that specific way
I'm saying that weight is easy enough that doing it in a much less user friendly manner is still feasible. I see people put on way more pl8s than i do
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>>563494968
>Pic related. It's weight would be shifting all over the place as it tried to get at you
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>>563494968
Using your opponent's movement to turn their weight to your advantage is practically the fundamental principle of so many martial arts
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A gaunt should weigh 140-170lbs on average and then swell up to 400 when its gorging to go to a reclamation pool.
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>>563496719
now i need chunky gaunt pics
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Good thing I had my rebreather handy for this space walk.
Everyone sees the Instigator as primarily a Vanguard weapon for obvious reasons but I find it way more fun to use on Sniper. It's far more accurate with the middle row team perk (to the point where hipfiring at point blank is pretty reliable), has better ammo efficiency with Versatile Precision, and shits out damage with Targeted Shot and Exacting Focus. The only problem is I don't think any of his third row perks affect it.
>>563495468
I mean personally I've never had to fight a dog, let alone a mountain lion, but my intuition tells me that you're probably going to get your face eaten off if you ever find yourself with one on top of you and your back to the ground. Regardless, my main point was that Cadians are dead 'ard.
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>>563499276
It's stuck with me my whole life that if you get attacked by a dog you stick a finger up its bum to stun it. I've got long arms for a good reach around so I will remember this strat.
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>>563499276
>Good thing I had my rebreather handy for this space walk.
hello /tg/40kg
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>>563499276
>but my intuition tells me that you're probably going to get your face eaten off if you ever find yourself with one on top of you and your back to the ground
Dogs can be done, even big ones, if you guard your throat. Big cats (like gaunts) have the problem of retractable claws which are going to rake your guts out while still gnashing at your neck. Problem with gaunts is that they're not really big enough to do a lion/tiger/leopard type pounce that's half a bullrush while still just having enough body length to straddle your legs while standing on your face. Gaunts are just generally very short, from nose to ass, with small tails so they should be pretty fucked balance wise, especially if they are actually big cat heavy under normal conditions. Having the gigantic scything talons is a huge threat but its pounce shouldn't really be as threatening as a real big cat, especially since the gaunt is going to be stabbing right where the armor and guns are instead of lower. It's not a proper utahraptor scale which is why it relies on numbers and should need animal terror to win (like war dogs do https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becerrillo).
But yeah the animation where the cadian throws one off is cool.
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>>563499437
>if you get attacked by a dog you stick a finger up its bum to stun it.
I thought that was sharks.
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>>563502616
Unless sharks shit from their noses then it's not
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>>563504278
do dogs?
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>>563504372
I don't think so, but this question has stunned me. So if you get into trouble with a human just act like a retard and then run away.
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>>563504775
strange how my question stunned you, but the tip to defend yourself from a rabid dog by sticking a finger up his anus didn't.
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>>563459783
If this makes it the Tactical and Heavy will get it and it will be ammo starved and come with no perks for either class.

Scipius needs to be downgraded as a Scout if he wants to use this weapon, he's still a full Space Marine and Phobos wearer but that simple class change will allow him more weaponry outside of his current Eliminator kit. If he's a Scout he can use chainsword, bolters, bolt shotgun, missile launchers like that one, heavy bolter, plasma pistol, power axe, power fist, power sword, Neo-Volkite pistol, Thunderhammer in addition to all of his Sniper weapons.
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Is there a cap to how much time I have for a perfect parry? Like if I have the fencing weapon on my Vanguard and then have that perk for the extra parry window, would I have reached a point where it wouldn't really help anymore?
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Why is it so rare to find players who will actually backtrack/advance towards a more favourable position to fight a terminus enemy?
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>>563510626
Speedrunners mostly. The sage advice from the 'Tide games has served me well. In that you should never advance when shit hits the fan due to possibly aggroing ambient spawns or triggering more shit. Yet, all too often I've seen folks just trying to run to the next elevator thinking it'll solve the problem for them. Meanwhile I'm over here thinking of what I need in mt loadouts to handle all three terminus at any given opportunity.
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>>563510626
I had a Neuro at this position for today's daily and it was blasting me through the walls with his absolute bullshit mapwide aoe.
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>>563506650
Yeah, as far as I know standard Fencing weapons have their parry window active during all active frames whereas Block and Balance have theirs skewed towards the start and end respectively. Fencing *technically* skews to the start as well but this is only noticeable on Argent Edge or on modifiers that shrink the parry window.

With those bigger parry window perks you're basically expanding the margin of error for your defense type. IE, and as far as I know, making 330ms window 40% bigger only makes it a 396ms window that's still not active frame 1. This is why I roll my eyes every time I see someone claim that Chains of Duty gives Heavy a Fencing window because you're still gonna eat shit if some tyranid meaties you on wakeup.
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>>563510626
the absolute state of this game
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>>563510626
Low IQ players

You see this in Exfiltration
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>>563505036
What the fuck, scouts get to use heavy weapons and thunderhammers nowadays? What the fuck is wrong with this franchise?
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>>563530212
>scouts get to use heavy weapons and thunderhammers nowadays? What the fuck is wrong with this franchise?
They always did.
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>>563530414
They look so much better too.
Give me these pants and boots over those sinful form fitting ceramite greaves any day of the week.
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>>563512235
I had a neuro spawn on ballistic the other day with lictors and ravenors. And it immediately started doing those end running shockwaves.
My scrubby friends immediately went down because there's nothing harder to deal with in the game than a lictor or ravenor up your ass while a neuro is shockwaving.
I backtracked into some tunnels, and it floated over to me so fucking fast and immediately started spamming shockwaves AGAIN that I didn't have time to deal with a single extremis before they all frametrapped me into a corner.
I've never seen a neuro IMMEDIATELY start doing shockwaves before. Let alone spam them one instance after another like that. It played how I would play if I could invade people's ops as a neuro.
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>want eviscerator
>it's probably going to be a power greatsword so they can re-use all the power wave shit

lame
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>>563539109
We got power axe as a new melee weapon already. Just got omnisian axe too, which is just a power halberd.
That leaves power sword, power fist, power axe, and the o axe for power weapons. Shit, the knife is a power weapon now too if you count the heroic power gladius.

For chain weapons, you literally only have the chainsword and that's it.
They said we're basically not getting a chainaxe any time soon since they won't make it a power axe heroic. Probably never cause of their retarded place in the lore right now as "chaos" weapons, so that's a blow against chain weaponfags.

I think they owe it to chainfags to make the greatsword an eviscerator.
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>>563530324
I keep forgetting that we are all supposed to be Lieutenant Titus and thus use the character rules, rather than the regular dude rules.
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>>563510626
and none of them just spam execute on it either, wasting 20 seconds for no reason
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>>563502616
you punch sharks in the nose. SOMEONE's not a true bushman.
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>do normal weekly strat
>matchmaking completely fails
>restart to title screen
>try again
>fucks up again with a different lobby
>restart game itself
>8 minute loadscreen
Why is this still a problem
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>>563559186
Because idiots get all upset at the idea of just having a main menu and server browser with no pointless hub you walk around in.
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>>563529453
You telling me you don't fight the terminus on the desert sands where the Trygon is constantly burrowing towards you instead of finding solid ground to fight? What are you, a coward?
>>563535364
The fact that Neuros can land apparently whenever they want is the biggest load of shit. The only time you can anticipate it is after doing a burst of damage, beyond that it's a crapshoot. It's like a more retarded waterfowl dance.
>>563559186
Usually going into siege matchmaking and immediately quitting out will fix matchmaking for operations.
>>563560081
Are there really people who NEED a superfluous hub area that adds nothing except more load times? Even Saber apparently believes it's a load of shit with how they let you teleport everywhere important.
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>>563562839
>Are there really people who NEED a superfluous hub area that adds nothing except more load times?
Yes. Literally every single modern coop game adds this pointless shit and people throw a fit if it isn't there.
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>>563563025
What, are they worried people won't be able to see their super kewl spess muhreen? These niggers never heard of an inspect feature?
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>retards can't make a private lobby instead waste my time kicking me back into a loadscreen
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i am a turd floating in the bowl of the piss ocean
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I am fortifying this thread.
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>Doing Siege because I want that terrible bonding helmet before they remix the whole mode and god knows what the requirement will be
>99.99% of games either no one joins, or everyone quits after wave 5
>Magically two other guys stick it out
>Smash through 1 to 5 and 5 to 10 easily
>10 to 15 game is just throwing specials at you
>Whole time all I am thinking is either "My fucking dodge didn't regen a charge like it should" and "I wish we had heal on kills" as our poor Bulwark desperately tries to keep both our HP bars up
>Get to 16 and lose overwhelmed by the inevitable chaos missile spam of death chipping us down
God Assault sucks ass, absolute dogshit, irredeemably trash. Even if Wings worked it wouldn't be worth bringing an assault over Vanguard. Not in a billion million fucking years. Yes their AoE clear is marginally fucking better but outside specifically against bosses where clearly their huge fucking ass hitboxes triggers Wings properly its just the most shit bad trash fucking class ever. Playing anything fucking else would have been better but I was rused into this trash goddamn class by fuckers here.
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>>563587224
post codes and i'll join, i helped another anon last week get their stupid helmet on hard siege with another anon from here
aussie tiem too so you won't wait long to fill up the queue
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>>563559186
and they will do it again for sm3
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>>563587802
got a third here
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Why the hell can I still get hit during my assault dash?
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>>563585413
Good, Brother.
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im pinned down here brother
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>around 13,5k players
Not so bad by any stretch but SM2 had so much potential to have double of that at least. This is why they need regular weekly challenges with actual cosmetic rewards that aren't recolors. Even stratagems aren't enough to keep people interested to a sufficient degree.
>inb4 hurr durr keep your skill sharp
Sure, but this can only get you so far before you lose interest. Better rewards and more robust system with weekly stuff added would be a great addition.



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