>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>563446050
Sex with Venator
THEY'RE GREAT AT SHUFFLEBOARD
>>563493916Metro....
>>563493797literally me (billy)
saar they will tell you each and everythings saar
Heroes that piss you off? For me, it's>Holiday>Calico>Mirage
>>563494459Bebop
>>563494459KelvinMirageVenatorShivThe one who makes me seethe the most is Kelvin, most of the time I'm chill but whenever I see a enemy kelvin I instruct them to hang their faggot meta slave life.
what is silver's late game?
>enemy has silver>goes 8 and 0 by like 15 minutes>ends the game 8 kills 3 deaths 15 minutes later>we won because silver is a worthless hero that does nothingLMAO It's unironically easier to win with Silver on your team if she doesn't get any kills as that makes her easier to carry
>>563494459Dynamo. This reddit nigger has nukes on his 1, invincible on his 2, movement and heal on his 3 so good luck catching him, and an instawin button. He doesn't even have to hit a 6 man ult to win, just pick off 2 and the rest can't do shit. The most retardproof hero in this game.
>>563494649Best case scenario you buy time for your team by acting as a bullet sponge against the enemy carry. Or as a bola bot if the enemy has a heavy movement comp.
She's in.
deadlock heroes rated
>>563494859This is referring to their fanbase size, of course.
End of service soon
Nobody likes Shiv
Still playing Rem in (You)r games
Why do people pretend Silver and Graves are strong?
hello fellas, I'm looking for an image of billy where he's drawn like that meme where it's a dude all scrunched up holding his boxers up with one hand and holding a silenced uzi (or a similar submachinegun, I don't remember very well) in the otherif you guys could help me find that image I'd be very thankful
>30 year old hag flapper character who doesn't realize that the 20s (and her youth) are over
>>563495267>SilverBecause I love her and want to say nice things about her.>GravesBecause it's funny.
>>563493797Was there a collective lobotomy performed on the playerbase? Why am I the only one defending base as a support Rem while my five other teammates are deep in enemy territory chasing a single pick?
https://gamebanana.com/mods/669234Thoughts?
Who are some heroes that get a pass because their winrate is dragged down by garbage builds? For me biggest offender is Geist, her gun build has been obnoxiously strong but shitters love building for bomb or some meme shit
>>563495267>silverMovementroons get triggered by her bola so they make a concerted effort to gaslight everyone into thinking Silver is strong>gravesptsd from when she was actually strong
>>563495374Just go ahead and blame matchmaking like every other shitter
>https://tracklock.gg/players/769825739Just beat this faggot smurf kek, he was mad as shit.>>563495408Shiv for sure, he's really good right now but 45%ish winrate because he is hard to play + needs a good build and commonly L->R does not work.
am i supposed to build veil walker or shadow weave on dah driftah and poke them from behind during teamfights?
>>563495401pretty cool, looking older fits him imo
>>563495274
>>563495401Managed to look more polished and finished without trampling over the original designVery good improvement I'd say
>>563495401Only thing I'd say is that it looks a bit too overdetailed?Cool mod though
>>563495668Thank you!
>>563495401Why does he have a bulge
I don't understand what I'm doing wrong as mirage, maybe my aim is just shit, I get EE, tox bullets, land my scarabs and when the mark pops it seems to only do like a quarter of the enemy health max
>>563496402PRobably just arent noticing them having spellbreaker or a barrier up
>>563495401Meh but I kinda want his Drifter mod.
I have come to the realization that I'm the EOMM agent
>kill 3 people>immediately zip back instead of doing literally any objectives (walkers, urn, towers, stealing their farm, sinners)Why do people do this?
>>563496402hard to say without seeing gameplay, 5th stack should blow people up if you've stacked EE through beetles and toxic
>>563496909I can answer that because I ask my friends the same thing each time it happens and what they tell me is "I have to go to the shop"
I will brool mid and you can't stop me
>>563497251There is a shop in the middle of the map. Just go there and they don't lose tempo.
>>563497461that's my reply and they say "I forgot"
>solo run their comeback urn>entire team is waiting for me at the drop point>swooce right in, deposit it and fucking die immediately
>YER DEDHow do you respond without sounding dead?
>>563497801*counterspell*
>>563497801I call him a nigger
>>563495401Only thing I don't like is keeping the out of place prosthetic arm.
Is there a point to melee items on drifter other than Lifestrike
>>563498253I wouldn't even buy lifestrike anymore.
>>563498253>other than LifestrikeMelee items are trash on Drifter, you shouldn't be buying them in the first place. Get spirit if you want your rend to do something, there are a couple of spirit items that synergizes with gun builds.
>>563498391Go back
Tempted to install the cheat mod just for this.
Which ethnicity is Shiv meant to be?
Why is shiv allowed to oneshot you after hitting 2 skillshots
>>563498690Chimp
>>563498730BLEED
Is Shiv THE /dlg/ approved hero?
>>563498850BUT WHY
>>563498889STICK'EM
>>563495401the collar is too thick and inner embroidery is worse, other than that good work
>>563498925INFERNUS IS THE DOT GUY WHY IS SHIV EVEN MORE OF A DOT GUY
YER DEAD
>>563498975KNIVES OUT
>>563498690American
>>563498975They're both monkeys thoughbeit.
Man, I don't think I can justify getting Silence Wave on Silver any more. Not as mid-game L-R at least. As funny as it is to have people be sitting ducks it just doesn't do enough now to buy on a non-support. Maybe if I'm trying to bully Geist or Yamato, but at this point it sounds better to get other items earlier and maybe a Hex for any annoying get-out-of-jail niggers than bother with a wet noodle 3 second silence for 3.2k.>cooldown is an obnoxious 42 seconds and actually longer than the wolf, up 40% from the previous 30>total damage at the point I get it is down by 42 per person hit, about 30%, which is a solid nerf to burst ult charge and the difference only grows larger as the game goes on
>>563499160that is true, but i love dot guys and learned infernusnow i find out shiv dots even more
>>563495401hate the face
Am I tripping, or Paige actually has jiggle physics?
>love Billy’s kit>hate his character Why did they make him such a loser poser character?
>>563499454Just get the Hotline Miami jacket mod for him, it makes him more fun to play anyway
>>563498690La creatura
Is shiv fun to play? He seems difficult to learn
TIME TO PULL OUT THE BIG GUNS>Takes out a knife
>>563499734a big one
>>563499667Only difficulty in Shiv is managing rage and landing knives (they only do a fuckton of damage when stacked) you can also cheese rage with decay which honestly isn't a bad item and forces people to buy dispel or just insta die to you
Livestock farm animal 0 IQ nigger retards
>>563499212Silence wave needed the nerf it's a fuckhuge AoE that could also proc items like tankbuster or spirit burn, ironically an item meant to counter spirit heroes became god tier poke + more free damage it's in a good spot now and has more of a use case for its intended purpose
>>563499967is he easier than infernigger?
>>563499224Just play them both then
>>563500091Probably harder you also have to counterbuy + be good with survivability items (like counterspell) because people tend to util dump shivs
>>563500001meanwhile the enemy paradox would have pushed like crazy
>>563500169i see, seems like hitting one skillshot is easier than proccing infernus flames though
SHIV'S GOT NOTHIN ON ME
>>563499454Whatever MAN you just don’t want to hear the TRUTH MAAAN because THEY don’t want you to
when is yoshi replacing Flog and Grapple with real abilities so lash becomes a real character instead of an ultbot
>>563500404Grapple just needs more charges Flog should also do a slowBig thing is that the stomp should scale with distance by default and not be locked behind T3
>>563500404retard
Billy should be a femboy so I get a boner when he (she) walks around
How do some people get such a smooth aim tracking, it's a sort of slow precision I can't really replicate with my mouse.
Jungle respawns in 3 minutes, but wave comes every 30 seconds, jungle more important. Simple as
>>563500658large mousepad+low sense+years of muscle memory
vindicta should be immune to gun damage because she’s a ghost. conversely there should be a hero that is immune to spirit damage because they simply don’t believe in the supernatural
Anyone else miss Lash being a badass punk instead of some gay Popeyes sailor?
I want to have sweaty alley sex with Vyper
>>563500929me rn
>bebop get shitty buff>suddenly increase amount of bebop in game 1/11/4 score>somehow always land on my team
>>563499212youre supposed to go decay
Why is Doorman x Drifter so popular
Why doesn’t Lash fuck Vyper? Is he stupid?
>>563501010Had to check him out if he's still shit and yeah just a little bit less.
>>563501062They came out in the same patch and both appeal to the average Tumblr refugee woman, they're also both evil and immortal
>>563501062>lanky yaoibait man and a serial killer LITERALLY handcrafted for women and gay men to lust over
>>563501067The Lash won't stoop down to fucking cheap street skanks
>>563501067The Lash never loses anything which includes his virginity.>BebopWas staged so doesn’t count
>>563501067if he was stupid then he’d have fucked her by now
>>563500909no, that looks stupid
>>563500548We need a Mahjong hero.
>>563501153>and gay menmost of the time these gay men are women too (ftm trannies)
>Superior duration>Decay>Stalkers mark t3yep time to lose 70% of your max hp with no effort
>>563501067The Lash does not want STDs
I have never seen a good Lady Geist
>>563501430Would be a real shame if somebody debuff removed those dots for half the price
>>563501430thats why it don madduh if dey run
Tired of all these jamaicans on my team. Just put the lime in the fucking coconut bro
>>563501491this but paradox
Who’s your favorite and least favorite hero in terms of personality/character/design?
>>563498730AH TRIED TO BE NICE
>>563493797>I know who killed Jay Gatsby >refuses to elaborate
>>563501717>They do lots of things!
>>563500237You have to hit multiple shots the skillshot is forgiving but in a chaotic teamfight it isn't always the easiest
>>563501624>FavoriteDriftah/Lash/Venator>Least favoriteThe black boons/Pocket
>>563501810ah i get it... spreading the dots would just do nothing
>>563501717>rem killed Jay Gatsby
>play abrams>lets see what this book can do>laughs
You should never die from a dot. It's bad game design.
>>563498690Bosozoku
This thread belongs to the ShivGAWDS
>>563501624>favoriteseven>least favoritepaige, she is annoying and kills the chances of any arthurian stuff making it into the game
>Early gun spike Lash is actually goodWtf
When I first saw Lash I didn't expect him to sound like johnny cage from mortal kombat
>>563501943How is he so handsome
>>563501943He's so fucking ugly
>>563501943how is he so unbalanced yet not unfair
>>563501873>>563501782But why? I thought he was harmelss
>>563502018didn't they rework him to be extremely cartoony
>>563502027>>563502050
>>563494459KelvinMirageDynamoA fed vindicta
>>563494459>Apollo>Dynamo>Graves>Doorman
>>563502085He was bored of shuffleboard
>>563501624>favoriteToss up between Silver and Ivy, both all around exceptional designs. There's some stiff competition in a bunch of other characters too though, like Vyper (carried HARD by her voice and writing), Lash (cool heel), Seven (edgelord with cool lines) and a bunch of others, but I think Silver and Ivy are best>least favoriteCalico, not even closeThe only good lines she has are when she clashes with Vyper, and her design is ugly. Even her skill effects are just forgettable, and they don't make sense
So Rem's name is a reference to REM sleep?
Is there a way to copy a build from a hero to another hero?
>>563494459Holliday and P*r*dox if they get on my team because it's a free lossBebop and Shiv if they're on the enemy team because my retarded teammates are going to feed them in the laning phaseCeleste, GT, and especially Doorman are annoying by design
>>563502239... yes?
>>563501010And then this is his build...
Is Kelvin a reference to temperature?
>>563502239Vypers name is a reference to Viper (snake)
>>563501624FAVORITE:>personalityThe Lash>characterInfernus >designVenatorLEAST FAVORITE:>personalityMcGinnis>characterPaige>designPocket
About a month ago I had a guy who was seething mad at me in Emissary who whined 'HOW AM I PLAYING WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THIS RANK', stuff like that. Anyways I'm Asc 1 now and made an alt to play with a friend, got an Emissary match and he was still slumming around in there. It made me wonder: how many of you fags cry about being stuck and blame it on everyone else? I utterly raped that Emissary game, and all games I play with my friend. I'm climbing too fast even.
Is Lash a reference to bdsm?
>>563502279>>563502330That's just really lame is all
>>563502321NOOOOO WAYYYYYY
>>563502330#wow #whoa
may or may not be a boy but I'm clapping regardless
>>563502409Yeah I would have named him Peter
>>563502239Damn, you might be on to something.Any ideas what the connection is with Graves' name?
>>563502382emissary to oracle are the dunning kruger ranks, filled with people that think they're better than they are
>>563502424I bet she has a cute and feminine penis
>>563502349>FAVORITE:>>personalityGeist (PLEASE when parry)>>characterGeist>>designGeist>LEAST FAVORITE:>>personalityBebop>>charactergay snake>>design>gay snake
>>563494459>Graves>McGuiness>Fed Sevens>Graves>Infernus>Vindicta>Grey Talon>Graves>A good Kelvin>A good victor>Graves>Graves
>>563502449So why is McGinnis a reference to, smartypants?
>>563502161Nose not big enough
>>563502574Hatsune Miku, a Vocaloid character
>>563502321Kelvin fucked Seven in his rectum and Kelvin's stone is keeping Seven alive, that's how Seven survived the execution
>>563502239what is Paige's name referencing?
Is Seven a reference to the seven types of electromagnetic waves
>>563502574>>563502641No, her name is Miku GuinnessYamato (her massive forehead is a reference to the boat) addresses her correctly
Geist is a Ghost in German and her husband was German
/dlg/ is so smart
>>563502745Why not just call her German then? Isn't that what that doll in Bloodborne is called?
Did you know? The doorman is a reference to a man who opens doors. They are called a door man because of the doors they are manning
>friendly guardian gets destroyed in 4 minutesoh my fucking god
>losetreak >try my old build>win >MVPMELEE GEIST MY BELOVED
>>563502834who was in that lane
>>563502409its not lame, its campkinoaka campy cinema, aka the campiness improves it and gives it so called "soul" aka giving the impression that its put there by someone with the love of the craft rather than purely for profit insentives
Next you're going to tell me that Victor is named after the guy who made Frankenstein's monster
>>563502834Guardian lost is bad but not the end of the world. Walker is when it’s over
>>563502832What about if it's a woman doorman?
Apollo is a Greek god of disease and his presence is a pox upon this game
>>563502823Anon are you stupid, or just sleepy like Rem?Geist means Ghost in German, not German in GhostEver heard of PolterGEIST?
>>563502958In ancient Greek religion and mythology, Apollo is one of the Olympian deities. His numerous functions include healing, prophecy, music, poetry, and archery.
>>563502956YWNBADM
>>563502832The doorman is actually a reference towards him opening his backdoor for other men.
>calico>c a l i b o>j a l i b o>j i g a b o ooh now it makes sense
>>563502958He really needs a Haze tier rebalance>Auto wins lane and then goes ro rape all the other lanes>Becomes completely useless once everybody on the enemy team gets spirit resist
I just learned that the doorman is some kind of demon and not humanthat is super gay
Guys holy fuck >infernus>inferno>us
>>563500862>Fun fact about ghosts: just like humans, they don't like getting shot.They probably don't die, but it hurts like hell.
>>563503123>in spermus
>>563503121sort of agreehis powerlevel is too high compared to the rest of the characters.
>>563503123It's "us" because he's a proud citizen of the US of A, not a dirty Ixian
>>563502986Doesn't ring a bell, no
I swear every positive KDA Celeste is running some offmeta build. Are the trending builds just haphazardly updated to the new patch and not tested at all?>>563495438I mean, you're going to have bad matches, but it's not like I could do anything at that point. T2 Patron under siege and my teammates are on the other side of the map while I'm playing a support. "oh just outplay them bruh"
>the hidden king>is standing in the open of his baseWooooow
>>563503026
Best character for a nigga who sucks at all that fancy movement? From the few characters I've tried I think Warden might be the best fit, but I'm not quite sure.
>Billy THE KIDOH MY SCIENCE
Why isn't there more fanart of Graves getting plowed by Lash?
>>563502834lost mine in 6 minutesbut i was haze goo vs vyper mcginniswhose explicit goal was to hard shove and shoot towerand then we won the game
>>563503231>Are the trending builds just haphazardly updated to the new patch and not tested at all?Most top daily builds are complete garbage and only stay at the top because of botting
>>563503206that other anon said "geist is 'ghost' in german" and you interpreted it as "geist is a ghost, in german"
>>563503314Kelvin>press 2>receive fancy movement
>>563503321Because she's literally a newborn baby you sick fuck
>>563503314turret lesbian
am I going insane or the higher the rank the worse player get? I never see 20+ deaths consistent before ritualist
>>563503158>god>can't suck your life out>can't curse you>can't curse your land>can't steal your health>can open doors What a faggot
>>563503121did you start playing 20 minutes ago?
>>563503494I have 600 hours in the game
>>563503314GravesIf you're (or they them)Shit at movementShootingAimingMacroPositioningLaningTeam fightsFind micro like blinking and breathing intensiveGraves, just smash your thick skull against the keyboard and all your abilities will play the game for you.
>>563503289>Arch MotherI don't remember her breastfeed me
>>563503231the build system is lacking in information for players to actually make a good decision about which to usei find myself always having to use other sources to find good builds. usually i'm cross-referencing the builds with statlocker hero leaderbuilds, their builds page, and item WPA (which their implementation of feels a little fucky but better than nothing)and if that fails, going in the d*scord and searching "build in:heroname" and then seeing what people recommend
>>563500862This, but also only Kelvin, Victor, Vindicta and Viscous can respawn. Drifter and Mina can't die unless it's by afterburn or stake.
>>563503531I had 2k hours when I realized you can parry Viscous' fisting
>>563503464obviously I mean like lorewise, not literally what his kit does. Doorman in the lore would be like, a monolithic superhuman god and meanwhile shiv is running around trying to stick people with some steak knives from his kitchen.
I hate the goonigger so much
>>563503612That's because she mothers arches, not you
>>563503314mokrill because burrow minimizes schmovement needskelvin because ice path minimizes schmovement needscalico because ava and leaping slash minimize schmovement needshaze because smoke bomb sprint minimizes schmovement needswraith because sprint and teleport minimize schmovement needsvindicta because flight minimizes schmovement needsinfernus because flame dash minimizes schmovement needsapollo because his entire kit doubles down as escape options, minimizing schmovement needs
>>563503712YOU CAN DO WHAT?
>>563503314>>563503782Don't forget Talon, who is like Vindicta except he has 4 stamina not 2 and can dash while flying
I just learned that bebop is some kind of robot and not humanthat is super gay
people that pronounce scourge as score dge
Do you think they’ll beautify Calico? Or will they change her entirely?
>>563503374>>563503782Guess I'll give Kelvin a try.
Dynamo is such a good hero and makes your team love you.If you teleport someone out of a shit situation and help them escape they will worship your dick
>>563503859GT heavily utilizes stam and even is on the fast dash pool on top of having 4 stam, and you can spam stam while flying toohe is a schomevent hero for sure and you'll feed out the ass if you aren't smooth with it because he doesn't has stake
>>563504010They should just use the Aryan skin looks better anyway.
Can you parry Bebop's 1st uppercut? Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't
>>563502461Hate to break it to you but that's Phantom
>>563504045Dynamo has no dick
>>563504045I WANNA TELEPORT A PAIGE MAIN OUT OF A SHIT SITUATION
>>563504045so far in my team they tend to teleport me in worst possible moments
>>563504045Can confirm. My shithouse friend I play with constantly gets people sucking his dick in chat for entangle saves and 2 man blackholes when hes dynamo.This is the same guy who refuses to slide for any reason and constantly gets lost on the map
>>563504282>refuses to slide for any reason and constantly gets lost on the mapahhh the good ol' days
>>563504045No, so far every dynamo teleport has fucked me over
>>563504338He killed himself on sinners 3 times in 1 game once. Least he isn't a rager, and still better than most randomly assigned team mates somehow
If only I had a wife like Mina...
>>563504598mean evil bitch that would kill you if it meant +rep for her? lol
why do i keep seeing gun victors suddenlywho the FUCK started this meme
>>563504638Yes
>>563500001unironically what can i do to carry teammates like these?
Sex with Graves teenage white pussy
>>563504676I constantly see gun Rems and gun Bebops now
>>563504567I only rage when I’m like 3-4 games in and die. I need go just play more street brawl
>>563504756gunbop is fine if your team is spirit heavy, the other two are instant losses though
Drunk Silver beating me, turning into a werewolf, slashing me, and then apologizing frantically while crying when she changes back…
>>563504754Your father wouldn't be proud of you racemixing Apollo
getting GREENED by viscous
spoiled but not rotten
Get the fuck out of here METRO!Quit trying to force your fucking shitty gun victor meme.An 8% gun buff isn't enough to make it viable you retarded kraut faggot.
Despite all the nerfs, my friend still manages to completely lose his shit if a Doorman carts or ults him>I CANT DO SHIT>THIS IS BULLSHIT>I DONT HAVE ANY MONEY TO COUNTER HIM
>All the baxter society heroes have a prosthetic right arm>All of their models are unfinished as shit work in progress placeholders>None of the other heroes mention anything about the armsSo is this just a coincidence or a canon thing?
>>563505608Does he also play an i-frame hero and not even try to block the exit damage?
>>563505023She needs anger management courses...
Have /we/ finally stopped coping and admitted that Rem and his little chuddies were the most soulful addition of this batch?
>>563493797>One Guy gets tilted during lane>instead of ignoring him my team just decides to throw the mach to teach him a lesson or some reddit shitI wish this wasn't so common in EU.
>>563505612It's a neon prime holdover because these characters were cyborgs with metal arms in that game, the arms are just retextured to fit the setting
>>563505612Baxter Society cuts off your right arm as a hazing ritual
>>563505608doesn't help every single one of them just wants to throw you under your walkeryeah you can totally counter itnow if you only you weren't stunned before his ult and you'll have 0,2 seconds to dispel after he leaves
>>563505735I love Rem and his lil helpersThey cute :)
>>563505735Helpers? Yes. Rem? No.
Couldn't push at all, lane was gigahard because infernus was another lobotomite that kept dashing in and killing himself. Still couldn't do shit because infernus was useless the whole game and then there's billy. Is there anyone at all that denies the forced 50?
>>563505928Why do you hate the sleepy feller so much?
>>563502321IN HERE I AM KING
How do I git gud at Silver's gun?The tempo just feels... off...Is the trick to Semi-auto it?
>>563505998Also, this looks perfectly fine...
>>563504045even good dynamos can fuck you with that teleport thoughhad one pull me out of a kinda close but very much winning 1v1 in the subway by teleporting from the hallway above itcool, and can't fault the guy, but damn.
>>563506017Because he throws nearly every match by stealing his entire team's farm and does nothing with it.
>>563505998where is the infernus on the left scoreboard
>>563505998Wrong fucking image, my bad will put the correct one.
>>563505998almost all my losses are caused by people that clearly don't know their hero, I was laning with an Ivy yesterday constantly using her stun behind tower for absolutely no reason, just wasting cooldown, she got ult and we went to fight and I was wondering where it was since we were just sitting under tower and of course it was already on cooldownthat and people that are at 100 health lv1 and don't think of buying extra regenshame I can't see their played characters and confirm what I already know
>maining 1-2 heroes>not maining 10+ heroes so you don't get bored and have varietyStep it up.
>>563504045>get into a sticky situation>hit an air slide and go to schmoove my way out down the stairs>the frickin Dynachud entangles us, kills my momentum, and jaunts us like 5 meters away from the enemy>in the opposite direction of my escape route
Me on the right
>>563506291>7k damage BillyHUH???Man the matchmaking is fucked.
>>563506373>playing random heroes
>>563506291You did just as bad
>>563506361I see so many boosted niggers on the common meta choice that refuse to buy any greens in lane, not even a band-aid. It's almost always the hazes.
>>563506373I usually do that but I'm trying to improve my mmr so I'm just spamming one hero depending on what I feel that day.
>>563506373I only play Ivy and I never get boredI just stop playing when she gets nerfed
>>563503536You guys are really mind broken by a low tier throwpick character
>>563506442I AM THE RAPER'S HANDMAIDEN
I buy the Egg, Extra Regen, and Monster Rounds on Seven every single time.Fite me.
>>563506361>shame I can't see their played characters and confirm what I already knowFor some reason I can't even see the match history of people I've played with anymore, I can see it for Steam friends and only Steam friends now
>>563506509Sure did Jam, I can definitely carry these boosted animals with Silver of all characters...
>>563506120silver if valve wasn't full of hacks
Shiv is such a braindead nigger tier hero. Buys 90% purple and is as tanky as abrams.
>>563506120Its just a janky gun. God help you if the enemy has anti-fire rate because you will be shooting nothing.
>>563506758>silver if valve wasn't full of hacksI'm usually a fluffy woman enthusiast, but I actually like her how she isThere's so few werewolves in media that actually show it as a person living with a curse, for once I'm actually very happy to see a shapeshifter with a human form
Easily the most overtuned character in the game >Spammable stomp that do hundreds of damage>The best escape tool in the game, a teamwide teleport that also cleanses >Good healing ability>Very tanky and has 3 base stamina>One of the best ults in the game
>>563500909he never looked like that
>>563506373i have like 500 games on ivy it's too late for me to "main" anyone elsei do dabble on other heroes quite often though
>open patch notes>ctrl+f "silver">0 resultsk den...
I'm going to start maining dynamo
>>563504019Welp ice path really is quite helpful. Might stick with him since freezing fucks who think they can 1v6 is pretty funny. Though I'm not really sure when I should use the ice dome to not grief my team by blocking their shots/movement.
>>563506120Silver's gun feels like it has a ~100ms delay from when you click to when it fires.Only Holliday's gun had that problem prior, and they just fixed it.Hopefully they'll fix hers too.
How can Dynamo satisfy his wife? Does he have a robo-penis?
>>563506616>manlet
>>563507343Why do you think he wants his human body back?
>>563507351Bro, he's 5' 11" which is likely taller than you.
>>563507343he can't thats why he wants his body back
>>563507164>open /dlg/>ctrl+f "silver">anywhere from 50 - 100 resultsIt's OK. We more than make up for it here.
>>563507242>Though I'm not really sure when I should use the ice dome to not grief my team by blocking their shots/movement.Do expansion and/or arcane surge so your ult is super big
>clean the lane paige>join the fight paige>heal me paige>shield me paige>get knockdown paige>get slowing hex paige
>>563507589Quit playing a bitch if you don't want to be the team's bitch...
>>563507343He black holes her black hole and also has fingers.She's fine with it, they met after he got atomized, Dynamo just wants his dick back.
>>563507589You're playing Paige you should be getting euphoria spikes from people telling you what to do, you DID want to become a woman after all...
>>563507589kiss me, Paige
>>563507589get knotted paige
Sex with Dynamo after he saved me with a teleport and then healed me on the way back to base, I have to pay him back somehow...
>>563507305>and they just fixed itGot a link to the patch notes?
>>563507660>>563507701>>563507715have to fight for my life cause I'm the only person with knockdown
>>563507852He can't have sex unless he wins the ritual
>>563507810Calm down silver
>>563507589Spread your legs Paige
>>563507853What the fuck do you THINK they meant by this, faggot?
>>563504045The literal last time a Dynamo teleported me is when I was a werewolf and was about to press bite on a faggot I brought down from full healthFuck dynamo
>>563507589spread your butt show us your butt
The only thing I noticed about Holliday's gun was the recoil reset to where you were aiming between each shot while holding down fire
>>563508019>Fuck dynamoGladly...
Any other Drifter main find themselves winning lots of games but never really being the star player? Like, you have impact, but you're not THE guy.
>>563508158The projectile is slightly faster and the pre-fire delay is gone too.
>>563508318No since I main Shiv
>>563506120It's a precision weapon, not a spray weapon. Don't shoot unless you're gonna hit.
>>563508335Shame I can't aim still
>>563508335>give the cowgirl revolver character a delay on her gunWhy did they even do this in the first place?
>>563507589Paige you owe me sex, let's go to this dark alleyway real quick. I know you're not wearing panties under that skirt, you don't want me to tell the rest of the team that do you?
>enemy buys rebuttalReported.
I demand more ladies in fancy outfit mods
>>563507879that's my girl
>>563508540uh oh billy is having a melty
>>563508429its supposed to be a funny double action thingsome games do this too, like rising storm 2 with the M1917 revolver
>>563508540>decide to have fun with a viscous punch build>enemy lane both buy rebuttal as first item>hit every parry>request to swap lane>no one responds>end up losing 26 minutes in
I wish I didn't lose every single match when playing Silver...
What hero do you play if you want your team to love you
>>563508672It's a cheap nigger item that works once then gives me free kills as every rebuttal buyer is a retard that will spam parry off cd so all I have to do is only use one heavy after the parry whiff instead of one also FUCK REBUTTAL 800 gold for the strongest counter item in the game sure is fucking fair btw if you press parry you're a fucking subhuman.
>>563508335>pre-fire delaythat was a thing??? what the fuck
>>563508830dynamo, just because it means your enemies don't have one
>>563507305It still seems to have a bunch of buffering problems as well.
>>563508830RemMake sure to secure all your sinners :)
>>563508910Yes, Silver still has it too.So do a couple of other characters, but they're all full-auto so you probably don't notice.
>>563508830Dynamo if you master your teleport's iframes to teamwide avoid enemy ults, and get 6 man ults yourself
>>563507305I disagree, I think it's the snappiest gun and it feels like a hitscan shotgun from tf2 or call of duty or something. Just point and click, no retarded bullet travel. Love it.
>>563508847This. Rebuttal is literally the only tier 1 item that not only has value past lane phase, but is viable the entire game. Shit should be a 3200 item for how much value it gives
How do I Celeste?
>>563505998>forced 50elo hell rebrand
>>563509138I imagine it will get rework when we get more varied melee heroes on the roster because it completely cucks them hard. Imagine if Enchanters or Bullet Vest was 800 souls, thats what it feels like.
>>563508318you are the dedicated support rapist which is a necessary but forgotten role, i think da driftah loses any 1v1 against the current meta carries
>>563509138>>563508847they should seperate the effects into two itemsrebuttal with the parry cooldown reduction + damage buff and then a 3200 / 4800 one with reflect and healing
>>563509256dash jump in with shield, spam all ability
>>563508289Marla..
>>563509305More like metal skin or counterspell being 800 while also having a 4 second cooldown and disarming/silencing the enemy and also reflecting the damage and increasing your damage by 30%.It's actually fucking insane how much rebuttal does.
>>563509256>00:00Press 1, shoot them.>05:00Press 1 and 2, shoot them>10:00+Spam 3 and then press 4 in teamfightsDon't try to fight people solo until your shield is max level.
>>563508712Holliday should really use a single action only revolver given her cowboy aesthetic.
CELESTEBROS...WE WERE SO FUCKING LUCKY
>no cowboy Bebop modwhat's the point
>>563508825whenever i play silver i go like 25/3 but still lose because my team is retarded and doesn’t know how to kill objectives and i can’t kill them as fast as i would on seven so the enemy team has enough time to come over
Now that haze is dead, what's the point of metal skin
>>563509546Alt fire to fan the hammer would be fun
>>563509578la creatura
I want to talk about the eggIf you pop and egg at 30 minutes you should get something more or less like:-Fire Rate: +12.5%Max Ammo: +35%Cooldown Reduction: +5%Weapon Damage: +30%Max Health: +175Spirit Power: +20With the maximum value of each stat if all 30 buffs landed on it at minute 30 being:-Fire Rate: +75%Max Ammo: +210%Cooldown Reduction: +30%Weapon Damage: +180%Max Health: +1050Spirit Power: +120Now getting something like 210% ammo is not that powerful since it's basically two titanic magazines(1600 souls item) which means the total value is 3200 souls, on the other hand getting something like 180% Weapon Damage is slightly more weapon damage then 2 galsses cannons(6400 souls item) without the health penalty. My point is that the rewards are not at all equal not to mention that some characters don't benfit from some buffs, fire rate is amazing for someone like silver or paige but mostly irrelevant to kelvin or graves. Generally speaking I'd rank them like thisweapon damage=spirit>>CD>>>>fire rate>=max ammo>>>>>health>conclusion?If you get weapon damage or spirit from golden status then you should basedface, the egg's most likely output of stats is a bit of a meme, so in most cases it's not worth min-maxxing for 30 minutes to get the most out of it, especially since it will most likely not give you enough spirit or gun which are what you will most likely value ln whichever hero you're playing. Also, the most ideal targets for the egg from a min-maxxing perspective are hybrid characters like graves/abrams/silver since they mostly benfit from all stats, mostly.
>>563509629>Haze>DeadUhh...
>>563509016is there any list of the delays?
>>563506361ivy's stone form heals her so maybe that was it
>win 1 match in archon 5>rank up to oracle 1 instantlywtf. I'm getting too high, I don't wanna play with the super intense nerds but my alt in Alchemist has too many retards. Trying to find the happy medium...I really liked Archon.
>>563509657i haven't played overwatch in yearscouldn't McCree do that?
whos stronger, driftah or shiv?
>>563506361>complains about people not knowing their hero>doesn't knows their heroretarded nigger ape, stone form heals you on use
>>563508830Any support backliner with rescue beam, tho i have a special spot for viscous CHADS who cube you and then punch the cube 20 meters back to behind your team, idk how many hours it took to get the tech down but i always appreciate the insane saves
>>563509578horse clussy
>>563510018shiv
>>563509601you can commission someone to make a mod for you
>>563510018drifter is like training wheels for shiv even though from lore perspective it should have been opposite.
>>563509629Retard>>563509858They buffed her fixation early >>563510018Gameplay shiv, lore I'd like to say shiv but they're about equal
>>563509896Nope.
>>563510272give me the shiv lore
>>563509629>what's the point of metal skinBro your Venator and Vyper?
>>563510267the lore is cool but yeah they introduce godtier characters way too early
>>5635100181v1 situation Driftah wins late game but he gets raped mid game by Sheev. During laning phase it's a tossup, Sheev has the tools to engage on his own terms depending on the situation.
>shiv GT and calico were all members of the baxter society at one point or another>they're all missing an armThe fuck is up with that? Does the society enforce hardcore masturbation?
Is there a deadlock tracker that isn't shit? Tried tracklock.gg but its missing a lot of my games.
>>563510018DRIFTAH does a lot more objective damage, shiv dot doesnt work on them that well
>>563510378He monkey, he king of monkeys in fact, and he on a journey to the west to receive a blessing from the Budd- I mean the Patron
Silver getting drunk at crying while slobbering over you at Jezebelle’s…
>>563509629Silver wolf form gets countered by it if I remember well. I remember buying it on abrams, it was fun to make full health silver run from me like a mutt she was.
>>563510378he.. he monke
enemy dynamo tried to do friendly banter with me and I told him I hope he gets his throat slit in a dark alley for playing his fat faggot character
>>563510378shiv was a criminal before GT took him and made him a member of the baxter society, although we don't know the extent of his crimes everyone treats him with no mercy or empathy implying he did alot of fucked up shit, also he was friends with drifter, THE dictated murderhobo torturer of the game.
>>563510606Yep, Silver wolf slashes are a gun attack so disarming sex and metal skin both work on her
>>563509831fire rate for graves is amazing since your only gun items are toxic and tesla bullets
>>563510546>>563510637I really want to know if the monke stuff is intended... I blame his wooden arm personally, makes him look like a Orangutan with their elongated forearm.
>>563510647you sure showed him by acting like a maladjusted subhuman single-digit IQ nigger baboon
>>563510647......and then everyone clapped
How does anyone actually deal damage on Silver?She's always the absolute rock bottom in my games, but I've seen screenshots of her dealing top damage.
>>563510794Stop putting white people on a pedestal. Any sperg rage that happens over mic is guaranteed to be one of you worthless manchildren with poor emotional regulation skills.
>>563510378He was STICKIN EM but evil until Hoya Heya made him make them BLEED for good.
>>563510867If you play against retards you can deal good damage in wolf form.If you want to deal damage otherwise you need to skip ult completely so you can shoot people.
the game needs an arms race type of modeyou start as a hero, when you get kills you level up getting new items and instantly swaping to another hero, the last level is you playing as slork and if you get a kill you win
>>563510775Shiv is a funny character, because in Neon Prime he had a cybernetic metal arm and a werewolf(?) transformation, there's also a cut line about stopping him from collecting trophies>Trophies went to Drifter, who Shiv canonically was friends with>Werewolf ult went to Silver>Cybernetic arm became a wooden arm
Cool Sheev facts:-He's stickin' 'em-He gave the Baxtuh Society your number-He tried to be nice-It's over
>>563510037ah yes the high level strategy of constantly wasting your 40 second cooldown on less heal than a healer minion against a calico overextendingif you don't have anything to say you stay silent you faggot, now go and try to find an angle to come off as right even if your original argument was retarded enough
what's a good build for Viper? I wanna practice my gunning and sliding schmoovement skills
>>563510926i know what it looks like, but i wasn't trying to make a racist comment lol
>>563511103mo if he nke
Since Holliday's crackshot triggers every 4th headshot in a row wouldn't building just spirit and fire rate on her make the most sense?
>>563511128375067
>>563509578She looked better other than the face and dress colours. Valve really ruined this design but at least she has a cute face now.
Shiv cultivation mechanic when? We need to appeal to the Chinese gamers after all
>>563511104What do they want my number for anyways
>>563511391That aught to be a Seven mechanic though.
Eyup, Dynamo is OP as fuck. Even if they're a mouthbreather the fleet in being threat of dynamo ult means you have to pick every fight with care and if you chase him down it takes forever.
>>563511103Not sure why they didn't make him the werewolf. I geuss the kit was too overloaded that even they noticed?
>>563510378He was a monkey who thought he was a dragon until THE PATRIARCH OF THE BAXTER SOCIETY found him and set him straight
>>563510867>How does anyone actually deal damage on Silver?Cripple them, land 4 shots that deal most of their health, transform, faceroll your keyboard as they die
>>563504676From what I've observes it's because spirit doesn't scale as well as gun so they are doing this hybrid nonsense However idk if it's just me but victor's gun feels rather shitty to use, if I wanted to do hybrid/m1gger I'd play a character whose abilities make sense for it. Heresy build is working for me and I'm top dmg/kills consistently, idk why people are pushing this retarded gun shit Zzerial posted a video using gun items and he did nothing the whole game
>>563511118there's times where it makes sense, usually you'd prefer to stone form on minions to clear wave faster if you're behind in health but facetanking creep attacks and possibly enemy attacks as soon as stone form ends (it's very easy to hit you with say, gloom bombs, as soon as stone form ends because you basically stay still for a moment) is not realistic oftenif he had 2 up he was probably trying to heal you as wellit's effective to spam stone form on CD specially if you rush second upgrade and specially if you are buying green items, the knowledge check here would be knowing that as ivy you can force tie/stall almost amy lane matchup by just buying extra health, healing booster and nova
I try to get at least 4.8k spike on every mystic because being on cd and not having a gun doing damage feels emasculating.
>>563511485>Cultivation is all about becoming mystical arts to become powerful>Seven farms half the map to become powerful >The farms in question are demons/aliens inside of pentagrams that you have to killBravo Valve...
>>563511950We just need a obligatory chinaman cultivator hero who is speechless that this random western dude figured out cultivation on his own.
>>563510775honestly i'm not surei think the monkey thing is just because he looks like a monkey and has a rage mechanic, and not based on any actual shiv lore
>>563507061Lash had another design in Neon Prime that wasn't in the tutorial footage. Valve left behind his texture and a voice line describing his appearance, so Primelock created a design off that.
>>563511805yoo heresy build carried me to eternus
>>563512109seven is so fucking based bros
>>563510748She already fires like 9~10 bullets a second so fire rate doesn't do much, it's a nice bonus but spirit power and gun damage would be better imo, unlike on Silver where you NEED fire rate because her gun just doesn't operate without it
I think I'll just permanently bench paradox for the foreseeable future, it's just an exercise in frustration to play this gimped slut against the meta slave's choice.
>get doorman >only walker kill is from when a calico decides to just walk into my door and kill herself
>>563511103>there's also a cut line about stopping him from collecting trophiesNo they still have those lines in the game.
>>563512865>doorman playerI have no sympathy for IDF soldiers
>>563510260im poor
>>563509831You're not accounting for the damage penalty the egg gave you during those whole 30 minutesFor ease of calculations let's say you do 2000 DPM (damage per minute) with your weapon: 10% of 2000 is 200, that's 200 damage every minute you are not doing because you're holding onto the egg (you're doing only 0.9 * 2000 DPM), times 30 minutes that's 6000 damage you missed out on by mere virtue of holding onto the eggLet's say that once you pop the egg you get an average roll of 30% weapon damage, your DPM is now 2600 (1.3 * 2000 DPM) with 600 of that DPM being the buff you got from the egg. In order to make up for the damage you missed out on by holding onto the egg the match has to go on for AT LEAST 10 more minutes. So, at the 40 minute mark is when the egg FINALLY breaks evenGranted, this scenario makes some bold assumptions (your DPM stays the same all game, we ignore all the other buffs given by the egg), it puts into perspective how costly the egg actually is and how long it takes to just break even
>>563509831>>563513125I think the best time to buy egg is not in lane but at 10 minutes, holding it for about 10 minutes (1400/1500 souls) and then cracking it for a lategame shove. This works best if you're just on lane janny duty since the 10% damage penatly won't really amount to much if all you're doing is shooting troopers.
>>563513272i agree, had the most success with the egg playing shit heroes with dogshit lane that do 0 damage anyways and 10% of 0 is still 0, then selling it for the post-lane powerspike
Egg is 7 spirit so it's not -10%
Its just not that fun. I am losing all desire to play. It feels tiresome
So uuuhnew maps when?
>>563513125Fair but damage early on isn't as valuable since even if you get kills they'll respawn immediately, but that's neither here nor there since to begin with i only wanted to see how much value you'd get>>563513272Popping egg before 10 minutes gives you less rewards, after 10 minutes the reward increase, and they increase again after 30 minutes. the rewards are 15~25~35 for each point in the game(pre10min-post10min-post30min respectively) same with spirit ammo and the other rewards, personality if I'm not buying egg as first item i don't bother with it
>Billy starts off the game mentioning how the game runs better on linux>"Oh this billy has a brain, this'll go well">Ends the game 2/12>1k hours playedSomeone post the im tired hitler cat
>>563513912People with brains don't randomly bring up Linux unprompted
>>563513912Everybody has bad games
Not sure if I like my phantom account or my alchemist account better. In phantom, matches seem more even but its a matter of who gets the better heroes with utility ults like mo and seven. In alchemist I can play any hero and own half the games but then the other half the games my own team feeds.
heh, you better play your best kid... or I'm posting your freaking steam to the deadlock thread... nothin personal kid... heh heh
>>563514120>Having a altGAYAs a phantom nigger I agree though. Most games tend to be decided by who has the most OP heroes since everyone is a bad tryharding meta slave over here.If the enemy has some combination of Kelvin/Dynamo/Mirage its usually always GG from minute one.
>>563514218Ivy is so fucking cool
New Calico redesign just dropped
>>563514439Calico forma de BWC hunter
alright guys im gonna start playing drifter what am i in for
>>563503314Old man with carpal tunnel here, I play Bebop, Mokrill, Graves, and ultbot Seven all with a bunch of +mspd to compensate for my lack of movement tech. That being said, there's a bunch of really easy stuff you can learn like superglides and how to wallbounce properly that will help you immensely even if you don't sit in the map all day and practice movement routes off of vents.
>>563514371ivy is the coolest and bestest at everything!
>>563514620>Old man with carpal tunnel hereTHAT'S NOT WHAT I FUCKING ASKEDWHY DO YOU RETARDS ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE IT ABOUT YOU
>>563514657Yup
>>563514620>>563514710Don't worry, I asked :)
>>563504010holy sexo
>>563514710It's framing for the rest of response, young man. Learn some storytelling.
Impregnating Ivy!
>>563515324Ivy is a rock
Given that monster people are just a thing, a gargoyle wife would be only a bit unusual at most.
buff graves gun dps why does it tickle compared to like warden or haze
>>563513912Game runs pretty much the same on loonix in my experience but I am a retard that doesn't play around with configs
Surge of power is busted for dots and stuff like deadheads right?
>>563515860yeah boundless+surge is great for anything with high spirit scaling, or even stuff like wraith's 3, surge gives bigger damage per bullet boost on it than glass cannon for your gun. ee is better for any dot that procs it but surge still good
>the extra spirit damage on melee hits from Spirit Snatch doesnt count for lifestrike heali almost cooked with this build but alas
I buy rusted barrel first item whenever I am up against a m1gger hero in lane.
>>563516529I do that too and I still lose
It can't be possible to make it out of Oracle in solo queue.
>>563509979yes and he still can.
>>563516580Just calibrate there on a smurf
>their supports build support items>our dynamo builds not even full damage, but full gun>lose17k damage.
>>563516335Spirit snatch feels like shit desu, not like you have alot of options as a melee chad but still
>>563516737Its a trash item I skip it completely. Occasionally I get offered the enhanced version in PVP mode and I still skip it.
>>563516737Might be funny on Bebop since it triggers on hook and he is too shit to do anything but debuffs anyways
I think Deadlock is slowly turning me gay
They should buff ALL (three)(lol) melee items
>>563517435Okay, Silver.
>>563517435Slowly? Usually happens during your first match.
>>563516737Just build gun. Weapon damage increases melee, no?
>>563516737I get it on Yamato but I can't tell if it makes that much of a difference, it's a weird item even when it makes sense to get it.
>>563500909>badass punk instead of some gay Popeyes sailor"badass punk" is literally the iteration with a tranny ex in the backstory, while pooftalock stevedore is so straight he even stopped wearing the ascot
Should I have the most ply dmg on infernus or obj dmg
Regardless of the current reality in game, according to dev intention, is Haze SUPPOSED to be able to sneak up on an enemy and sleep>ult them down from full health? Or am I wasting my ult by trying to make this happen? I used to be able to do this somewhat reliably before they turned her back into an ultbot a month ago, now I can't really pull it off. Everyone just steps out of my cone at more than 50%hp and walks away, even with slowing hex/fury trance
>>563511778Wow Sega is gonna freak out!
>>563517435cute. don't beat yourself up bro, like what you like
>>563503314>I think Warden might be the best fit, but I'm not quite sureI suck at movement too as a Warden main but you should at least know the barebone basics of maintaining a slide (Move Speed + Fleetfoot + his 2) and optionally Kinetic Dash.
>>563516714Let him have fun, i build gun paige & gun rem occasionally, it's fun>>563517887Yeah but only by 50%, and that's with parrying being a thing on everyone that stuns for 3 seconds and puts a huge 20% increased damage taken debuff on you
>>563516737get rid of the retarded 70% effectiveness on light melee (99% of all melee abilities) and it will be good
>>563519392Get rid of all reduced effectiveness on light melee from items and make heavy melees have increased effect instead
>>563518590i think if you want to do that you need to capacitor themand/or max sleep daggerbut that is generally the idea, her ult is probably meant for picks now
>>563503314>Best character for a nigga who sucks at all that fancy movement?Paige, you just walk 2 steps behind your husband and throw stuff from the backline to help the team>>563503536Literally the only character in the game where you need to not fuck up your movment retard, if they get out of your gun range you're fucking dead, even shiv gets 2 movement skills to get away if things get fucked>>563506585It's 1(uno) schizo
>>563519392>>563519593I think they just need to reduce the stun from parrying to 1.5 seconds instead of 3
>>563519707if anything movement is more important on paige since if you can't schmoove when a yamato/vyper dives you then you're getting raped
game is so dead that even the thread became mega slowcontent when
>>563519853melee will never be viable so long as parrying applies a stun
Is the egg a good buy for Seven or no?
>>563516580Just play whatever carry wasn't hard nerfed.It's a miserable existence but it's free mmr. You have characters so awful this patch they just exist for free kills.
>>563520194Yes. It's good on every late-game character with a weak early.>Seven>Victor>Wraith
>>563516580i solo climbed to eternus playing nothing but split push doorman
>>563519978game is so dead it's even in the name
Celesete needs to go on a diet that fat sow
???
>>563520131>parrying is already more punishing than any anti m1, anti spell, or anti tank item in the game>for free innately on every hero>with an 800 cost item that upgrades it more than any 6400 item upgrades the other anti itemsGenuinely baffling "balance"
>>563519921Paige doesn't need to frontline and can get out of the way before the come since she's backlining, she also has an easy to land root and her ult stuns, graves on the otherhand needs to frontline which is the main point, and her root is more of a trap *they* have to walk into unlike paige's root where *you* have to land it
deh dahknuz kums fo' yu
They need to break the gargoyles knees too while theyre at it
>>563520131>>563520467I think they need to add a tier 4 melee item that has a passive effect of halfing the stun duration of the next parry stun every x amount of seconds so that the penalty of getting parried isnt instant death (something like 10-15 seconds so it's not too obnoxious)
>>563520421What's the problem here? If you're referring to the 3 > 2 then that's a bug le pre alpha game le please understand. just treat it like a +, you're getting 5 stamina
>>563520828They should just straight up add that legendary melee item from brawl
>>563519293Yeah, when things get hectic I tend to forget about sliding. Need to work on that. Think I'll stick with Warden and Kelvin as my mains for now, they work pretty well for me.
do they even listen to that 'how fun is this hero' nonsense?
>>563520828no one would ever buy this
>>563521064Does banning a hero remove them from your matches?
How is it always the Haze with half as much damage dealt as me that's the first to try and shit talk
>duhhhh pooopy poopy fart me retardwhat hero
Why are there less Phantom players than Ascendants?
Why is the matchmaking so fucking terrible latelydoesn't matter if I play during primetimedoesn't matter if I play in the middle of the nightdoesn't matter if I play with teammates or soloI am just getting flat out unwinnable games, where the enemy team just has an immortal 15-1 (or 0) guy who the entire team treats like a VIP
>>563516737after it was nerfed to not do shit when lmeeleing, spirit snatch became an ite, for bootleg melee builds that are mostly purple focus but can get a free hmelee from kit anyways like spirit ivy, purple abrams and spirit billyi actually have no idea what other hero would even want snatch nowadays, maybe splattermax visc?
>>563521834Infernus, Wraith, Kelvin, Paige, Rem, Mina, Apollo, Graves, Viscous, Mirage, Talon, Miku
>durrr duh matchmaking duh matchmakinghave any of you retards EVER played a valve game?
>>563522093NIGGER THIS IS TEN TIMES WORSE THAN DOTA, AT LEAST IN DOTA I CAN GO SNIPER OR URSA AND CARRY MY TEAM OF RETARDSeveryone buys actives in deadlock unlike dota so I can't fucking play hero here on permanent lockdown
>duuh durr gaminghave any of you faggots EVER gone outside?
>>563521887Smurfs cuck everyone into being perma Oracle and if you're good enough to climb through Oracle with the smurfs you're good enough to reach Ascendant.
>>563522357Wait how are you being thrown into Archon lobbies?
>>563522482This is objectively correct.Being capable of climbing through a tier with nearly 80% smurfs means you're better than the people smurfing who are often Ascendant or low Eternus.
>emissary 3>past 3 lobbies have been archon 1-2>won all 3 games and did pretty well>rank didn't change at allI know match making is fucked but how am I winning matches an entire division above me and still not moving at all?>>563522558auto filled the wrong word.
>I'm a scholar >What hero Silver, Graves, Ivy
>>563522684Oh okay. I was afraid of finding some random Eternus in my pisslow games kek.
>>563494649You build inhibitor and both resilience. Buy cc actives and duration extender. You pick people off with your bola and spam disarms in wolf mode while eating a ton of damage. Ive tried to do damage with Silver ult but it doesn't work. Try to be disruptive and hard to kill instead.
>>563522842Based
The amount of Rem hate in the community is unnecessary
>>563523129ill withdraw my hate when i get 1 rem that doesnt guzzle our sinners down into the shittiest build ive seen in my entire life
>>563511391>We need to appeal to the Chinese gamers after allsubtle
>>563498690Mallungian.
>>563498253>>563498310Lifestrike got nerfed so hard. I don't understand why they keep nerfing melee items while buffing giga cancer heroes like Celeste and making movement even more obnoxious.
>my paige is always retarded>the enemy paige is always giga teamfight rapistmy cock is so soft
>>563499967>>563500091Shiv is extremely easy to play since you just have to land 2 knives and use decay and that basically kills anyone.
>>563522842truthnvke
>>563523129>>563523250The way i play any hero is that i immediately take our sinners if no one else is getting them.The way i play rem is i steal their sinners and come back, if ours sinners are still up then you fags don't deserve them, they shouldn't still be up by minute 11
>Buffing parry before dealing with the rampant parry scripters
>>563523304>Melee (parry spam) is op>we need to nerf melee >refuse to nerf parry>All thats left is to make dogshit melee items worse
>>563523304Because melee items aren't for true melee they're in the game to be abused by heroes that have abilities that proc melee for some reason
*burp*
>>563523250Sself report.Rem's take your team's sinners when it's obvious you are not securing them and it is probably the enemy will steal it as the wave is pushed.
>Rem farms enemy sinners and jungle with gun build next to winning lane>Cries that no one helped him when they curb stomp him>Continues to try and 1v6 in the enemy jungle all game while padding his stats and feeding the enemy huge bags>Has the gall to say team diff at the end
>>563501624Favorite designs:Seven, Venator, DynamoFavorite personality/character:Seven and Venator again, Sinclair (I hate my wife never stops being funny)Least favorite: all the niggers except Infernus because he's not even actually a niggerCeleste and Graves are pretty lame in terms of personality and absolute aids to play against.
>>563513125You just convinced me to buy the egg.
>>563523110Graves owes me sex
im so glad apollo exists just what this game needed we relaly needed apollo in the game
>>563508830Vindicta but only if you have a rescue beam and hit a fat snipe after a clutch save.99% of Vindictas build gun carry and Vindicta is dogshit, no one expects anything helpful from one.so they'll notice your efforts.
>>563523896stay mad bitch
>>563523979Yeah exactly
>>563499667>Is shiv fun to play?Yes>He seems difficult to learnLow floor high ceiling, anyone can play him and i do play him especially in brool and i have fun, but clearly he has some tech and in real games you're a bit limited. Be sure to build some resist items on him
wraith/haze/celeste mains after I press phantom strike + 4 on them.
>>563523129after the last Rem i had, the hate is completely justifiedsome characters just attract awful people
>>563523606>>563523717Parrying will only be remotely balanced when you only get stunned for a half second if your light melee gets parried. Heavy melees getting a big stun is fine if it gets parried.Also fix the fucking animation, it's obnoxious that you can get parried when they don't have the shield up from parrying.
>>563523760Who is this character thoughbeit?
Why is every deadlock content creator a dysgenic child?
https://x.com/lauralousissy/status/2043674612202906025deadlock players are mentally illI don't think I have seen a game being infested by troons that fast
>>563501624>fav personality/characterivy, doorman, lash>fav designivy, seven, rem>least fav personality/characterpaige, calico, mcginnis>least fav designcalico, kelvin, sinclair (last 2 mostly because of how unfinished they are i only genuinely dislike calico)
>>563501624>favoritegraves abrams billy Infernus >leastapollo venator wraith miku
>>563523392>basically got princess carried through the laning phase by my Paige yesterdaythey're out there anon...
who is the troubadour and what did he do
>>563499667He's extremely easy to play since they put a shitload of power into his knives for no reason, and they are spammable, extremely fast, and recharge fast. All you have to do is land 2-3 knives and use decay on someone and you win every fight. The only remotely hard part of him is the shotgun movement and that's mostly because of source jank.
>>563524324Light melees are harder to predict, easier to pull off, and have more DPS>WAHHHH WAHHH I JUST WANNA PRESS Q AND BURGERBOXKeep crying little nigga
>>563524534the troubadour is actually pyro from tf2
>>563524404whatever you do, don't scroll down when visiting his page
>>563523896I'll play devil's advocate, these are the kind of desperate plays I make when it's clear my team fucking sucks and we have no carry.The alternative is sitting in spawn.
>>563524398Our content creators are leftovers that couldn't handle real MOBAS or Counter-strike/Valorant
>>563524534Yes
This fucking haze "nerf" is so ass to play against holy fuck.
>>563521834Holiday, billy, Haze
>>563524720Yeah it's the same as the Celeste 'nerfs' where they just buff everything about her and slightly reduce some other aspect of her.
Kelvin is a faggot character that deserves to get nuked again
>>563524680>cs>valLiterally who? All the names I see are old OW players/pros. Do you mean the russoids?
i was in a coma for 3 weeks what did i missdid they nerf wraith yet
>>563521834Apollo is literally this to a point
>>563519373fun's okayshitting the bed that fucking hard and still building exclusively orange items as dynamo is notnot a single green or purple
how 2 kelvin? did one game as him, kinda cool (had silver in my team so we lost) but I don't know if I should focus on damage or on more support
>>563524534judge holden
>>563524934The game is much better when he is unplayable, this is true.
>>563522684As someone that has been juggling between Emi6-Archon3 for who knows how long, Its all the same shit
>>563522684I'm below my rank because I played with a friend on the weekend and now despite winning a ton my rank won't go up.
>>563524979get duration extender on beam, rush beam upgrades, once you upgrade the scaling get surge of power, then get spirit lifesteal into infuser, boundless and ee. now you can 1v1 every character in the game
>>563525028The matchmaking is so fucked lmao
>>563524823Celeste's nerfs were massive lol.She has no early game in exchange for a slightly better late game that she'll never get. She's one of the lowest win rate characters and has BY FAR the lowest win rate in Eternus.skill issue
>>563525176Are those their actual ranks or the websites meme mmr?
>>563524994>>563524934>Muh vibe balanceMaybe you niggers should find another game to ruin?
>low win rate!>pro play!what does any of this shit matter if the character is broken
>>563525190She's broken as fuck and will always be broken in the hands of a decent player, much like TF2 Scout.>>563525259Website's meme MMR but with how people play it is pretty accurate, I find.>>563525292>Muh braindead support that can heal 3x as much as people can damage
>>563525292t. that 500+ game kelvin player
wyd in this scenario?
>the year is 2026>i load up my auto parry chea- *ahem* ...'mods'>enter lane>enemy Haze fires a single boolet at me>"heh, amateur...">my auto parry kicks in and deflects her bullet with frame perfect accuracy>she's stunned for 15 seconds>run over and start doing the Fortnite dance on her (i won it during the crossover event after 800 gacha pulls)>finish the dance with plenty of time to spare>unload a full magazine from my Chromatic Fade (Perfect) assault rifle>Haze calls me racial slurs and abandons the match>i report her and get her bannedanother day, another W
Get me out of cumlow man I just witnessed my whole team get continuously crumpled by a guy spamming heavy melee on billy of all fucking characters with like 0 parry baits
Big fan of being able to spectate every ongoing match
>>5635254262+crouch spam
>>563524934>Kelvin is a faggotTrue.>character that deserves to get nuked againalso true.
>>563525098I see public builds putting torment pulse on him, is it a meme?
>>563525778i haven't tried it but it makes sense if you go for in-your-face tank playstyle with him which fits him pretty well too. i saw a build yesterday here that had torment pulse along with mystic expansion which doesn't make sense since then your beam goes well past the tp range, so what do you even gain from it at that point. but tp itself can work on kelvin, just needs a specific build for it
>>563526039You can catch people with the beam from further and then get in their face. The beam is basically guaranteed death to anyone that isn't Celeste or Mina.
>>563525827Victor looks so ugly there
Good heroes if you can't aim?
>>563526147you have ice path for that, the guy also had enduring speed in his build so that would help too. i've never had trouble with the beam range when playing beam build, and the only +range i sometimes get is knockdown
>>563526210>Victor looks so uglyThere ftfy
>>563524934Yes but every support character, dynamo players are NIGGERS
>>563525827>putting a bulge on a they/themCanceled.
>>563526305No! Don't do that!You're gonna enrage the local Fujos!
>>563526317Sssending shockwave!
>>563526336Same as if there was nothing there at all
>>563525827Savannah kinda bad
>>563525827need femboy pocket mod
>>563526305u wouldnt get it
>>563526039build something like that as a "core", never made a build myself so I dunno how is it
does anyone randomly hear vindicta whistling in games even when she isn't there?
>>563526618if we can have they/them heroes, we can have trappy femboy heroes
>>563524534>whoA serial killer who tortures and kills people in gruesome ways, I'm talking people hanged by their innards and art pieces made out of someone's ripcage. He pretends to be a trailing musician while he does his crimes>what did he doHe killed holliday's sister in a way so gruesome that she still has nightmares about it and is genuinely traumatised by the whole thing
>>563527079>anon has PTSDis your name Cawthorne by any chance p-p be honest anon i just want to talk, come outside we won't hurt you
>>563527117>she still has nightmares about it and is genuinely traumatised by the whole thingGood.
>Pocket is a tranny>Pocket is a they/themWhy do the ESLs out themselves so easily? Are they even trying anymore?
>>563527290no i actually hear her randomly in my games whistling her fucking catchy little tunes but she isn't ACTUALLY in the game being played by anyoneSOMEONE must experience this bug right?
>>563526816now this, but I feel like I put too much shit, also unsure what would be the preferred order
>>563525324>She's broken as fuckC tier win rate in Initiate and 40% win rate in Eternus (worst in the game)You already got your consecutive nerfs man, simmer down.
>>563527390I think she got in your head, it was nice knowing you anon
>>563526392Every ability is broken on that fat fuck
>>563527607>retards playing a broken character and tanking the winrateSurely this has never happened before... not with Shiv, or Mina, or anyone else...
How's my Yamato build looking bros?
>>563527715Sure, sure, Eternus 6 just can't figure out how to make it click but it's totally she's secretly broken.I like how you're vague posting but can't argue why she's broken compared to the on meta favorites.
>>563527826I'm not vague posting, I'm explicitly telling you that retards tanking the winrate of broken characters has already happened several times before.
>>563527826You don't understand anon, her ult sometimes bounces to him twice instead gettign eaten by minion waves, she's the most broken character in the game.
>>563527715>>563527826If shiv is bad then how do you explain that he sometimes wins matches? You can't.
>>563528010>How is she broken>She just is and you have to ignore all data otherwise
>>563525324Unlike celeste, scout has never been nerfed.
and people say paradox is bad (she is but i love her anyways)
>>563528010eternus is not exactly retards
They pick Shiv in pro games that means he's good!!!
Ya celeste is at the bottom, bottom of my cock and balls bouncing on it silly style.
>>563528520Stop liking trashy women.>>563509578Old Version was actually better aside from the head model
>>563527343>t.drifterGo take a shower, wash your pants and shit in the bathroom you disgusting hobo
>>563528520based>>563528642no
I fucking hope this game flops as an esport. Undeserving of a success on that frontAlso how long till we get proper placement matches? I'm sick of 60% of my games being a total coin flip because system decided that putting multiple noobs in one team is a good idea
>>563528262Yes. He's good in pro play, same with silver who is good in pro play, both of these characters are trash in random matches because the average player can only bring out like 50% of their true power. Inversely, seven is the highest WR character forever yet he's never in seen in pro play, why? Because he's retard proof for everyone involved so it's easy to get 100% out of him and it's hard for your opponent to counter him
>>563493797Finally made it to I5How dafuq do you counter when one person on the enemy team is well fed? I played a game where the mcginnis was just 20k souls above everyone in the lobby and that was fun. Do you just need to see it before it gets that bad?Also, how do I know when I should be pushing a lane or walker, or when I should be fighting, or when I should be farming? And if someone contests walker, should I hard commit or just fuck off?Also any other holliday tips for a newfag would be appreciated, though I think I'm decent at her mechanically. Lassoing them into my walker has got me so many free kills
>>563524786who won?
>>563527728I recommend having express shot for her secondary bomb attack, adds couple hundred dmg to any burst combo you do.
>>563528252theres "people" that play stomp Dynamo and spirit Geist in eternus, the kinds of boosted animals that exist purely to continue the state mandated losses at all levels of the game. Anyways, since the other anon isnt giving any reasons, ill give one. The main issue with Celeste is the movement, in the hands of someone that can actually abuse the engines bullshit (which most eternus players cant as it stands, and probably wont until the game officially releases and the no lifes rush in and clock thoudands of hours in whataver bhop or surf equivalent this game will get) she becomes uncatchable and unkillable, which is why the nerf lowered her health, shield and damage, they decided that the mobility was too strong on its own for her to also have those. Now she scales back into the damage but by a point were spirit damage anyways falls off, so her previous ability to melt people early game is gone and will instead be forced to play as a disruptor from the start of the game. Effectively, they've given her the Holliday treatment in that only people that can abuse the movement can actually contribute with her and everyon else will qualify as an MMR terrorist, but her kit is still just superior to Hollidays, and shes also easier since she doesnt need aim for her M1s or ult and has the mobility innate instead of relying on jump pads and edge boost bullshit. So is she really busted now? Not in my opinion, but if you get a movement fag playing her then he'll just be able to be everywhere all at once and need multiple CC to actually shut her down
https://x.com/Baracuda_balls/status/2043702291446870162
>>563528252>eternus is not exactly retardsLOL
just played agaisnt a boosted ult bot haze it was fascinating
Victorsisters... which build are we running?
>>563529917>Do you just need to see it before it gets that bad?That helps a little>Also, how do I know when I should be pushing a lane or walkerIf you can see all 6 enemies on the map and they're all fighting at blue then push green if you're nearby, if 5 enemies are missing then don't because they're all probably near it. Only push against enemies if most of your team is there>And if someone contests walker, should I hard commit or just fuck off?In most cases you should run, they have the home field advantage and their team is most likely en route>Also any other holliday tips for a newfag would be appreciated, though I think I'm decent at her mechanically. Lassoing them into my walker has got me so many free killsJust the usual like melee hitting barrels to control their momentum better. Also if you lasso someone and you're not near a walker then you can barrel against a wall.Tho something you probably already know but need to practice with if you want to maximise is the barrel momentum tech, if you become really good at it then you can do shit like thishttps://files.catbox.moe/1wefk0.mp4
>>563530878Heresy
>>563528152trvth>>563528010That is vagueposting though.Like what in specific is broken?
>>563529827>silver>the average player can only bring out like 50% of their true powerThat's not the issue. Silver is not a supremely difficult character, all you need is decent aim and enough experience to get a feel for when you should keep fighting and when you should awooo away. It's fairly easy to get fed on Silver if you can do that.Her problem is that she scales inversely and she does not have the pushing power to force the game to end early on her own, effectively making her entirely team dependent. In pubs, this basically means a coin flip win rate minus a percent point or two for the people who pick her and can't hit the broad side of a barn because she genuinely does nothing in that case.
>>563530832unironically i don't get the haze complaining, she is even worse than bebop in that she ceases to be a character when you buy her counter. sometimes i will just spam melee her for fun instead of shooting her and her ult channels for so long that she still dies
>>563527628n-n-no it's a real audio bug...
>pick haze>enemy team builds metal skin and i am no longer a hero>other m1 carry is venator>losewowee
is this why they call warden a "one man army"?
>>563530878heresy build anything else is a meme, his aura is good now torment pulse deals so much damage too, its consistently in my top 4 because i have bad aim alongside EEi guess he falls off in eternus but im an oracle precum baby so carrying games with vic isn't hard
>>563531397This is why I play spirit carries like Seven and Victor. The enemy team has to chose to counter me or the inevitable m1 carry on my team.
>>563531495the mogger
I forgot how much I hate Russians
>>563530404I played against a celeste with 500 gorillion hours played on Lash/Holiday/Celeste and holy shit I wanted to kill myself. I now buy knockdown every match no matter what.
Silver bros I'm about to crash out. These past few days I've had the worst teams imagineable>>563531090This is my issue with the hero. You can have the most amazing early/mid game possible but a single bad teamfight erases all of your tempo.My past 10-15 games have literally all been>Get early lead>Team forces a bad fight>Die>Enemy takes midboss and its GGShe does fucking nothing by the endgame besides be a useless meat shield its hilarious
>>563530404eternus is all shitters abusing one tricks on the current patch, aimbotters, boosters, win traders...people hoping to sell their accounts when the gaming is released, the list goes on. Taking any shooter seriously when peripheral cheats have gotten so good while there remains zero incentive to advance anti-cheat in these games is basically the dumbest shit you could possibly do
>>563532135silver is for brawl ONLY not 6v6
>>563532135Pisshigh gods where we at?
Here's your Mina for today broIt's me
how do i use this?
>>563532628how cute are your hands and feet
>>563532909Heh, by the time you reach 16 (you)'s the thread will already be locked. Should have posted sooner into the thread.
>>563532864Silver is a werewolf
>>563532864dog in the background is hotter
>>563533116she is a mutt
>>563532864Silver looks a little different broshttps://gamebanana.com/mods/667846
>>563532864silver and her black boyfriend
i need a reacharound from ivy
>>563532909>friends buy TC>whenever there's a skirmish they leave anything they're doing to go fish the assist>objectives be damnedyoshi delete this fucking garbage item already
>>563531090>all you need is decent aim and enough experience to get a feel for when you should keep fighting and when you should awooo away.You're overestimating the capabilities of the average player, for most people simple aim and decision making is hard>Her problem is that she scales inverselyNot as bad as apollo in my experience, she still does shit mid and late game>and she does not have the pushing power to force the game to end early on her own,Most heroes like holiday M&K and shiv can't push well, and it's fine if they're useful for other stuff, not every hero needs to be a rem who can send his army to gangrape a walker>effectively making her entirely team dependent.Eh, i feel like that's the case for every hero depending on what you mean exactly, it's hard to carry in any moba but in deadlock it feels worse, you could go 10/0 and your team can still waste this opportunity
https://x.com/ydavw/status/2037807141424451786
ivy is already pretty fucking ugly but the nose ring is too much. just put a paper bag over her head man
>>563533069So it should be posted early along with some text talking about silver?
>>563532909It's bad, and it's made especially obsolete by the existence of golden goose egg, yoshi should at least make this item give a stat every minute so that it's still shit but at least then i can have fun building it whenever i see a +4 something on my screen
>>563533676What do you get out of being mean?
>>563533676>t.gay FAGGOT who takes it up the assI guess the venatorfag won't be lonely anymore.
>>563533676
>>563533676faggot
>>563533676>pic related is uglyWhat are you fucking blind?
>>563532909It's a complete waste of money, for every one of it's benefits there is something else you could have gotten that does it better. That's not even getting into how at the point in the game where you can get this is when if you're going to get a green item, you're better off getting something that will actually help you live like metal skin or spirit resilience or counterspellYou are either delaying your team's rise or hastening their fall by getting it and it should be retooled or removed from the game, because again you have to actually earn the stacks which means depending on how the game goes it could take 20-30 minutes for the item to even generate 3200 souls to pay for itself>Fortitude does the extra health better and you get health regen when not in combat allowing you to roam more>Egg gives you a cheaper and better and instant form of passive soul gain>Fleetfoot lets you move around faster>Greater expansion gives 30% ability range and gives 10% spirit resist on top
Every time Ivy speaks Spanish it makes me uncontrollably violent and horny, like i just want to grab the slut and rape her you know, just force my dick into her finely carved pussy and make sure it gets permanently painted white, make her scream MUCHO PARMESAN ESE or whatever spic shit she is typically saying as she shakes in pleasure man, then I'll out her on my porch and keep fucking her till I'm satisfied, which will probably be when she shits out ten stone babies and call them Carlos or Cabron or something and have them running around NYC doing odd jobs to support me as I continue pumping seed into her pussy as she cooks me food and calls me amor. Shit man, I'm bricked up
>>563534491cute boy
>>563534491would>but it-would
>>563533943My gay what?
>>563534441Your waifu is bald
>archon lobbies>miserable, the most braindead retards there are. 0 comms and 0 macro and nobody wants to work with each other>get put into emissary lobbies>enjoyable game where everyone communicates and has decent macroBoy, oh, boy. I sure enjoy this loop where I can't climb out of Archon because Archon players are bottom barrel scum despite being higher ranked than Emissary!
>>563534441How does Ivy have hair? She is made of stone.
>>563535259Wig
>>563535259a good sculptor
Bros drifter might be too honest for me
Why is Seven so nurturing, he is supposed to be this evil wanna be god but he goes telling Silver and Graves to do better, Abrams to drop the book, so and so on.
>>563535259Magic nigga, same reason she can move even though she's rock hard
i can't take much more of this
>>563536243deserved for having cheats
>>563536243It should be illegal to buy a tier 4 before min 15 or something
>>563536243>using cheat modshe is better than you.
>>563535927Seven is a real cultivator that considers not cultivating to be a waste of life, fucking taoist representation before we get any actual chinks in the game, no hapas dont count
>>563534652>he thinks he's raping pic related with her muscular shoulders and yolked out pecsHehehehe you seeing this shit?>>563535927Tsundere, also he's just speaking his mind, he commends ivy for her heroism saying that's an act of freedom that he respects, morality aside, but in the same breath he warns her that he'll turn her into a charred corpse if she tries that shit with him. He also respects holiday but states that if she tries to take him in he's turning her into a corpse, guy is just vibing if you're not getting in his way
>>563536572>no hapas dont countpocket is genuinely one of the most forgettable and generic characters in the game
how tf do i deal damage on SUPPORT rem? i buy torment pulse but my damage is always abysmal and it feels like it is the one part of my kit that is lacking. the utility is insanely good on rem for split pushing and shutting enemies down, but some games i lowkey finish with like 10k damage and it is pitiful. meanwhile dynamo can press 1 button and delete a continuous line through the whole map or kelvin can do the same while also shitting out healing
>>563537000just dont play rem
>>563535927Reddit/Tumblr writing. Next line he will say "TRANS RIGHTS".
>>563537000Kelvin and Dynamo are supports for MEN, Rem is for women and Paige is for trannies, you are a MAN aren't you?
>>563537034i really like macro heroes tho :(
does valve play favorites with cosmetics in dota? as much as i look forward to receiving mina cosmetics, i hope valve doesn't only give them to the popular characters
>>563537276oh they do
>HE'S LE EDGY AND HE LAUGHED WHEN HE KILLED ALL THOSE BAD MEN DURING HIS EXECUTION AND WANTS POWER>BUT HE ALSO RESPECTS MY LE FURRY OCs AND SAYS THEY HAVE POTENTIAL>HE RESPECTS MY COOL FURRY WAIFU TOOTell me with honesty this is not a reddit/tumblr/tranny-coded /r/TopCharacterTropes character.
>>563537096>I may be a serial killer but I respect Pockets pronouns!
>>563536676>venator is genuinely one of the most forgettable and generic characters in the gameftfy
>>563537331>>563537351>>563535927Seven is shit, his model is shit, his design is shit, his kit is shit. Genuine 0/10 character only liked by subhuman ruskies who like the huge winrate on him.
>>563537000>how tf do i deal damage on SUPPORT rem?You don't, if you really want to help with the dps then buy a few gun items for the 4800 power spike, and focus on building and maxxing pillows
>>563537276Valve just implements cosmetics from steam workshop + they used to do vote for expensive cosmetic item once per yearSo the amount of cosmetics will just be based on popularity of a hero
>>563536243Recharging Rush on WRAITH???
>>563537331>BUT HE ALSO RESPECTS MYHe doesn't you illiterate homosexual
>>563536243>yolo>6 deathswhat a fraud
>>563537276Valve has gotten the memo that sex sells, so only the sexy heroes will be getting cosmetics
>>563537562More cards moar better
>>563536676pocket is such a mistake in the games writing. If you've read the Geist vn, he looks nothing like his father Maximilian, he really just seems like some weird authors fetish were they wanted to include some hapa alphabet twink thats actually the super important heir to the richest company in the world but isnt le stoopid ebil like his bourgeois dad but instead wholesome frog eating vagrant that still has a designer overcoat and would've married the games giga stacy if he wasnt so targeted etc etc etc. Genuinely what is the point of this fag? His backstory and his interactions with everyone feel like they were written by someone that entered the industry through fanfics
>>563537331sorry forgot to mention that yes, I did just get raped by a seven who was 20k up and yes, I am trans (she/her)
Seven's new model/art/animations will be a floating lich-like character who shoots lightning from his hands instead of bullets, and he uses green lightning like Victor.Don't ask for source, as I will not give it to you, but it's why they gave Silver his old animations.
>>563537843I hope beach Vindicta's ass will be as big as the dress instead of some cop out about old timey dresses having bustles or whatever they were called to flair the waist. Vindicta should just be that bottom heavy
Did they make it so you can't view people's match history? It's just a blank page now.
>>563537220>Kelvinfor MEN>Dynamofor chuds who got bullied in schoolGary Stu character
>>563538380Sounds like someone got solo black holed.
Which visual novels and character stories are you guys excited for the most? For me it's holiday and shiv, maybe abrams too since basically every character worth their salt knows about the book
God i love Paiges
>>563538582NTA but if you get solo black holed that reflects poorly on the dynamo and not you, since he was pushed into a bad enough situation or you threatened him enough to do so
>>563538860victor and seven
>>563538880>that damage100% piloted by a biofem (not an egirl because she'd know how to play a little) who just stayed in the backlane and literally only shielded her lane partner and ulted sometimes
>>563537908Guy with a heart of gold with super evil rich dad isn't exactly a new trope. Also he doesn't get along with Mina, it was an arranged marriage
>>563538330>can't stalk peep's pages anymoreoh no the horror.
>>563537965>>563537660uh oh, seven trannies got upset
>>563539071It was a really easy way to identify smurfs...
What in the unholy fuck is this matchmaking?
>>563538898Incorrect, solo black hole is perfectly fine to do to pick off important characters that are slippery, like Vyper or Wraith or Celeste.Solo black hole on a Celeste followed by teabagging them after they die is quite great.Especially if you have Tranny Cooldown so your black hole is back up in like 2 minutes
>>5635390641. Is a shitty overused trope2. P*cket's whole character is still shitty fanfic author writing>>563539160Just look at their steam account you internet buttstalker
>>563538860as per the Geist VN we will see characters play big roles in others routes, what with one of Geists routes being the relation between oathkeeeper and the book. Because of that I think that Viscous will likely get an interesting set of routes, since they could pair him up with anyone against the adversary. I also hope that if/when Graves gets a VN the lich will be an evil rapist and not some eholesome chungus like the reddit fags want it to be, have her good ending be destroying the lich and snapping out of her IM SMARTER THAN EVERYONE AND DA WORLD SUX phase.
>>563539434>profile set to privatewhat now retard
>>563539280>Putting Dynamo on the team with the Eternus player
>our blue walker is already down>mirage is with our celeste brooling on a lane that's decently pushed>dynamo solos our yellow walker>mirage had ultmacrolet brooltards should be banned from picking mirage
>>563539482I think the best result for Graves is that she dies and is removed from the game.
>>563538582that doesn't bother methe six man holes? the endless wave of near-unavoidable stomps?? the insane amounts of healing and damage from a support character????? yeah i'm more than a little miffedit's like they asked a Redditor moderator to design the most disgusting self-insert power fantasy character who swoops in and saves the day, but maintain the quirky wholesome chungus fedora-tipping white knight persona
>>563539491I report them as a smurf by default.
>seven and dynamo are strong in lane and late gamewhy do they get to have their cake and eat it too?
Why vindicta isn't considered broken?>insane damage and melts anyone who gets close>never touches ground >no gun in game has big enough range to pressure her and most heroes can't even reach her>ult up 24/7>counter items don't have enough range to reach her cuz she is behind her team anyway>requires 6400 souls and 2 people to counter>even if she gets knocked down, she still is unreachableI'm new to mobas so maybe this bullshit is expected, but she deletes squishy heroes and only real counter play is to never engage or play tanky hero so buying armor actually makes sense. Only heroes that can pressure her mid air, she can fucking deleteGo ahead and give ma a working strategy for a Mina. I shouldn't be buying knockdown just to fucking counter 1 hero as mina who requires so much soul investment to get online at the first place. Please tell me how do i counter vindicta who knows how to position and doesn't take stupid fights
>Play Graves>Enemy team too busy brawling>Split-push and rack of lots of souls>get all three walkers>Time to fight and suck them to deathThis hero is so braindead
>>563536408>>563536487sorry sorry it's top bar plusi PROMISE i don't pay attention to the unspent souls i SWEARi just like the additional TIMERS and the % difference
>>563539896>Go ahead and give ma a working strategy for a Mina.Press 4 and look at her general direction
>graves gets Victor's ult (she puts down a grave and up to 2 allies of her choosing, get marked. if they die, they will be rezzed there upon death)>victor gets Graves' ult (he puts down a tombstone and little copies of Frankenstein's Monster come out and do his ult explosion)there i fixed deadlock
>>563539896also she has root that damages you with dotseriously fuck this nigger yoshi. I hate him and his bullshit approach to balance
>>563539896PHANTOM STRIKE
>>563540074
>>563540074>Giving graves a built-in rejuvYou just broke the game even more.
>>563539896GROUND POUND
>>563537276If bikinidicta is true, then it's already happening.
>>563503364>>563502986Reddit/tumblr/twitter are that way faggot
double the damage on vindicta's ult but make the recoil send her like 10 yards back
>>563540298double the damage on bebop's self bombs but make them do full damage to himself
>>563539773His healing is fucking awful until you max it out though, and that is always the last thing he maxes out.
>>563539896>Why vindicta isn't considered broken?Because she is quite possibly one of the worst characters in the game, completely shut down by 3 items and has no clear defined role (aka, sucks a bit at everything).She can still rape you if she snowballs, but is way less threatening than literally any other carry.
>>563540074Graves is already braindead enough, she shouldn't get Victor's stupid passive ult.>>563539896She's pretty miserable to lane against since she outranges literally everyone in the entire game and like half of the abilities on heroes can't hit her, but falls off really hard if she doesn't get several kills in lane.
>>563540045you havent played mina once>>563540113So a green 6400 item on mina just to counter 1 hero? I havent seen anyone buy that one on minaand that's besides the point. This is an endgame item, so i take it she is free to do whatever the fuck she wants till then?besides that. This item requires you to get in range and risk getting curb stomped by rest of the team>flank and get in range>use phantom strike>burst her down>get CC chained to death by rest of the teamand thats if you can secure kill on her before that
>>563539896play her and you'll seeif you're not going 20/0 you're near uselessand if the enemy team has a brain, they buy phantom strike and you're not allowed to play the game anymore. knockdown is a meme unless you have multiple and you coordinated its use because she can dispel/counterspelldon't buy knockdown on mina to counter her just fucking kill her lmao
>>563537331The entire game is tumblr tranny coded, retard. Valve has literal trannies working for them now so what do you expect. They're not the same company anymore.
I fucking HATE redditmo SO FUCKING MUCHLike genuinely why does every meta have to be so fucking cancerI think the last time I had genuine fun playing this game was during Christmas No dude WE NEED DYNAMO TO DENY ULTSHAVE ONE OF THE BEST ULTS IN THE GAMEHEALAND HAVE A SPIRIT NUKE BURST AFTER WE JUST RAPED DOORMAN FOR THAT LOL>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but you can just jump over eet :LWhat a faggot ass ignorant commentOH RLY? YOU CAN JUMP OVER ET? Yeah dude half of this game isn't corridors and distractions to keep your eyes off the wholesome chungus who casually is 20x as hard to kill as a full build Abrams just because he existsFuck anyone who plays this character at least with Kelvin you can stun him out of his channelsThis dumb nigger is pure instacast AGONY
>>563539896Just use your ult on her, flight makes Vindicta incredibly immobile (fly speed is slow and most people dont even rebind fly up to a different key from dash to be able to dash during the flight) so her only option is to cancel flight and dive for cover, flight has a 38 second CD and noone builds CD on Vindicta anyways, so forcing her to cancel flight means she is stuck on the ground. Shes also super squishy and noone builds any mobility other than enduring speed on her since she cant really afford too many green items. Worst case scenario she'll have spellbreaker and not take much damage from ult, but a love bites proc and rake should be enough to kill her most of the time. If you dont want to rely on ult then phantom strike or knockdown >but muh 6400 soulsVindicta is only an issue to kill in late game team fights when shes farmed stacks and can deal ten gorbillion M1 damage, and youll only have to get phantom strike to fuck her ass at that point>stake and crowsdispell magic has been meta for a while, and there will definitely be ten million other things you can use it for, so get it. If you are having issues with her combo early in the game you can get reactive barrier, itll eat up her snipe damage.Anyways, Vindictas main issue is that she is an M1 carry that instead of disappearing in a side lane for 25 minutes then rapes everyone, she has to actually roam hard and fight to get big stacks, and if she fails to do this she'll end up as the worst carry in the game, this is why she has a 47% wr compared to the 50 average of carries, so if she is really being that annoying to you just focus her ass in the first 15 minute of a game to make sure she can never get stacks
>>563540074>graves puts down grave in the baroness._.
>>563524979When I play Kelvin I'm usually alternating between defending walkers and using my ult like Mo and Krill to gank people who are too far up
>>563540819>you havent played mina onceI wasn't joking, with suficient Love Bites stacks Nox Nostra can easily 100-0 Vindicta, and even if you don't kill her you'll likely drag her out of the sky.
>>563540842What do you mean just kill her? Am i supposd to buy phantom strike or not? Because going in dry with no counter item never pays off. Just to get to her requires me to use up stamina or bats and I dont stay long enough in her range to burst her down, unless i use umbrella, which opens me to massive damage from herAnd if I buy phantom strike, that's 6.4k souls that could go to literally any other item in game
>>563540980this bozo can't double jump LOL
>>563524253doesnt match the times (when has that mattered though)the hair looks kinda jankthough overall very nice
>>563541330Mina vs Vindicta involves you pressing 4, if you do not have 4, she can outdamage your 4 or you are not ganking her with help then don't go for her and go farm or attack someone else
>>563540980dynamo is good design but almost every number on every ability needs to be completely gutted. he can get away with such horrible play in almost every respect
>>563541067Some good advices here ty. Didn't really consider reactive barrier as her counter>>563541261It could be that i don't notice dogshit vindictas, but ones that are good get me tilted to shitUsing Nox has always been a fucking gamble when she is in the air. She often can melt me before i finish the case so i have to retreat I just don't see it as a viable strategy against vindicta that doesn't suck dick
>>563527117does she have any voice lines about her sister when she sleeps? that would be cool
>>563541330realistically it's not your responsibility to phantom strike her as mina"kill her" as in she has terrible base HP and vitality is currently back to % scalingif you ult her you will either kill her, or chunk her and set up for you to finish her with bats and rakebut if your team has people who could buy phantom strike but refuse to, and you cannot play the game without someone phantom striking vindicta, then unfortunately yeah you have to take that L. better spend 6.4k on an item that lets you win than 6.4k on an item that makes your damage on the scoreboard higher after you loseat least you can hit it, bat, ult, bat, ult, strip, sand, varnish, buff, varnish, buff, varnish, wax, sand, buff, buff, buff
>>563541330you only buy phantom strike for her if she's mechahitler with a billion stacks in the late game and the enemy team collapses the second she dies (in which case you dying to secure the kill on her is a winning trade), and even then just get a support or frontliner to buy it instead. Mina generally doesnt need to buy phantom strike for Vindicta since her ult is already a counter, and you really dont need to get close to pop the ult on her so i dont get why you are saying you need to use bats to get close. Just press 4, and if you want another cheap counter option get disarming hex
>>563540426>His healing is fucking awful until you max it out thoughbrother, every ability powerspikes when you max rank itit just so happens that his 'power spike' can regen up to 15% max HP + change to his entire team without any itemsthose are insane numbers and only grow further out of control when you buy Superior Durationyou compare that to someone like Rem who functions on % missing health - not max health - and has to hop skip and jump to each of his targets>and that is always the last thing he maxes out.depends who you ask but usually
>>563525827Geist should have a bulge too
>>563539482I wanna see holliday and silver interact, in regards to the lich she's obviously evil but i hope she gets some nuance >>563539674mindbroken
so this is the last /dlg/....
So has anyone tried out Holliday with the new gun changes? Does it feel better?
i want to watch a match with icefrog or one of the devs.
>>563539280Ladder play just can't be taken seriously until they add a strict limit on rank differentials in group queues but they can't do that without pissing off trannies that exclusively stack nor can they add an unranked mode without splitting the relatively small playerbase. I would care less if it didn't affect match quality so much.
>>563542931>>563542931>>563542931
>>563542905Thats a good thing. Comptrannies ruin the vibe. You are supposed to play for fun.
>>563540819mina is shit tier. does nothing after 30 minutes
>>563539280How is it possible that games were more balanced when the playercount was 1/5 of the current size
>>563543251Because everyone used to play solo.
>>563541987Rem's heal is much stronger than Dynamo's heal since it makes him completely invincible during it. Dynamo's heal is useless in actual fights until it is maxed out because it disables his ability to do anything besides walk around and be a fat fuck. His healing is by no means good.Also not true, many abilities get good with just 1 or 2 levels of investment into them.
>>563540980Counterspell existing already nullifies many ults, except for Doorman because he's a reddit-approved cancer.
>>563541886>does she have any voice lines about her sisterYes pic related >when she sleeps? that would be coolIdk desu need to check in with rem's voicelines
>>563539896>It's a Vindicta built both counterspell and dispell magic episode.Guess it wasn't meant to be..
why am i getting put into low arcanist lobbies as ritualist 2-3? Not enough players in europe?Also I hope this viscous troon kills himself at some point.>complains about apollo for the whole game>tell him to buy slowing hex>doesn't and keeps complaining>lets yamato and apollo snowball>tells me I'm dogshit if I believe that buying counters early would help
>>563524680>watch random "#1 [insert dishonest hero here] PLAYER NA/EU">some random 20 year old with his shirt off and hair that you can't tell if he got out of the shower 40 mins ago and didn't comb it or hasn't showered in 4 days">gets tilted by his lane partner being smarter and not feeding alongside him and spends the entire match whining>loses match. keeps whining about being tilted while queuing next match>15 minutes into the new match still whining about being tilted by his lane partner from the pervious match
