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HOLD THE LINE Edition

>Marathon Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGame

>Game Info:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/

>Marathon Game Home Page
https://www.marathonthegame.com/

>The Entire History of Marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhk [Open] [Embed] [Open] [Embed] [Open]
https://marathon.bungie.org/story/

>Play the Original Marathon for Free
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/

Databases:
https://tauceti.world/
https://tauceti.gg/
https://marathonmeta.gg/
https://marathondb.gg/

/vg/ Discord:
https://discord.gg/RDy8sPCeKc

News:
>Experimental Queue coming Wednesday 4/15 at 10 am PT
>RECENT PATCH NOTES
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1053
>SEASONS & ROADMAP
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon
>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUT
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0
>RANKED DETAILS
https://x.com/TauCetiGG/status/2033929468713308638
>CRYO ARCHIVE DETAILS
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/cryo_archive_overview

Previous Run >>563355867
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We will live to see Bungie die,
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>>563546672
rape bungie
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Ban steam charts and chuds will find a new hobby: Double Win
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can you people just let me do my diremarsh contracts please and stop sniping me across the map?
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so how is the game doing?
what's the player count like now?
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UESC need to be a lot tougher or there needs to less teams per map
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>>563546820
raep
bungi
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>>563546875
dude just play smarter
just position differently
lmao
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>>563546904
We're all playing the new old school runescape league
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>>563546956
That's plenty
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>>563546956
That's just me and my 17,151 alt accounts
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>>563546904
It's fine if you're a premade
Rn it's hell if you're a freekit solo queue
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When is Bungie releasing the artbook for this game, even if it shutdowns I'm buying merch
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>>563546950
yeah man let me just activate this box that locks me into a room directly next to algae ponds and send waves of bots that i have to kill to escape the room and then exfil smarter.
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>>563547096
speaking of art, what happened after the plagiarism scandal?
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>>563547237
They hired on the artist or at least added their name in the credits.
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>>563547237
They're an art consultant for Bungie now and bought rights of the pieces they stole from them
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Bungie desesrves to be hated just for making the Volt weapons so incredibly shit. I know the intent was to make them like the Plasma guns in Halo, but those have way more use on Legendary compared to this.
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>https://bsky.app/profile/marathonthegame.bungie.net/post/3mjf4z5qti22n
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>>563547978
The punch is gud tho
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>>563547978
they need a buff, i'm getting bored of running the same guns every raid
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>>563546875
dire marsh contracts are so gay i have almost given up on them entirely, that maps spawns are fucked and there are too many hazards
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>>563544497
>>563545680
damn this sound kino
>>563546904
raped and dropping every day
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>>563548109
guns? what gunss? i only know bully and wstr
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>>563547978
i love using the scar and lookout even if i lose fights more often with them than the ars and smgs that are ballistic
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Your game is dead... it has been RAPED TO DEATH... by me...
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>>563548192
I use those and the sniper sometimes, that's pretty much it.
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>>563548627
no
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Did Ziegler just save Marathon?
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>>563544467
Different anon but I would like to imagine that in a more generous interpretation of the argument that he's mad that people treat steamcharts/CCU as primary and concrete data when it's more of an indicator of things that matter. There's inherent inaccuracy by steam players opting out of publicly showing what they're playing, as well as the existence of console populations that are not as plainly public that muddies the direct analysis from those numbers - to be clear the privacy stuff is probably a margin of less than 5% and while not proof I do believe the reports that Steam is the largest portion of the playerbase. Declining Steam CCU over consistent time frames (less players today than there were last monday) is absolutely an indicator of a declining playerbase, but can also be an indicator of shifting player behavior, such as playing at different times, or less hours.
Additionally, the structure of the game is seasonal, some level of decline is expected - as an example, Path of Exile 2's last season started December 12th, 1 month and 8 days later at January it had lost 80% of its CCU and continues to decline in a way that's not at all alarming - more of a proportional decline than Marathon has seen (near 70% in the same time frame).
So again, not on the koolaid that
>nothing is wrong you chuds the game is doing great
but the doomposting is obviously shitposting in "disguise" 99% of the time.

>>563547364
Nice, congrats bro
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>>563548954
>200M in the hole and 600 developers making a game for 23,000 players
KEK
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>>563548954
this is...nothing
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>>563548801
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>>563548954
They gotta blast this guys head smooth off
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>>563545056
>Bloated 200 million dollar games by a 3.6 billion dollar studio especially need a higher CCU count
Yes, I agree, the initial capturing of the positive public narrative has failed, and is not enough for good long-term health of the game of this budget (skeleton crewing is still possible)
However, the claims of players quitting because the game is bad etc. are completely made up because CCU does not measure number of regular players, and the high player scores doesn't reflect that either.
Changes in CCU is determined by so many factors like early/late game progression, seasonal progression, binge playing (like many people did in the beginning) the pattern of when new players enter the game increasing or declining interest from new players (which is also affected by seasonal structure), it's confounded manifold by other things that it's practically useless for estimating player retention (ie how many players are staying vs quitting a game).

Modern online landscape is pretty simple: God-given line goes up = "best game ever amazing and flawless!". God-given line goes down = "Oh no the game is so bad and everyone is quitting because things are so bad, plz fix game it's hopeless, it was bad all along".
Sure, there are various things I'd like to get improved, and sure, people are bound to quit after getting enough of any game, but let's not get caught into this stupid drone behavior.
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>>563548954
>Needing 4 months to add a duo queue.
Nigga how? Is it not a flip of the switch to add in a new queue option? How the fuck does it take months to add it in?
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>>563549304
Right right, I am sure all 60k players didn't actually quit the game. Theyre waiting for S2.

COPE
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>>563549440
small indie studio pls understand
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>free kit experimental playlist
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN ASKING FOR. Streamers are gonna fucking CRY when they can't use their gold mods to bully green shields
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>>563547978
nah, the volt weapons only get better and better the more agility people have which makes strafing increasingly effective against ballistic weapons, making their accuracy go down. It depends a bit but with the homing bullets you can often hit 100% of the bullets while you also get to strafe at full no-ADS movement speed, making the enemy miss 50% of their shots while you hit everything. The bullet travel time starts affecting things at longer ranges but at close range it's almost negligible. Volt thrower is the best close range weapon after shotgun.
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>>563546445
Owes me sex
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imagine free kit only cryo it might actually save the game
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>>563548954
This is a reasonable mode for new players, but it doesn't undo the fact that proper duo support is inexcusable to have not had at launch or now.
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biotoxic disinjector needs to be banned from non cryo runs
this shit is aids to go against
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>>563549440
He's just lying. They're not re-enabling it because they don't really have the player numbers to support it atm and Season 2 could use an extra selling point or two anyways.
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>>563549746
See I think this is why he's mad, because
>all 60k players didn't actually quit the game
is a genuinely retarded thing to say. Far more than 60k have quit, but you're latching on to the literal only hard data you have and pretending it's something it's not. Even if every doompost is true and not a single soul has said 'alright I'm good with this for now, I'll hit it again later' and decided to fully quit, the number would be, and please pay attention to this word, *proportional* to the CCU decrease. 70% of the people who bought it have quit forever and also hate the game and are currently cursing Bungie. How many people bought it? I dunno, maybe 2 million. So the guesstimate number of people who have quit should be 1.4mil
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They should just make Rook runs free to play and then edge people into buying the game by giving them no vault space or something
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>>563550521
yeah man infinite cheating rooks is exactly what this game needs to be saved
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>>563550356
I've been very fortunate to not see it in any non-cryo maps yet.
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>>563550601
Solve the cheating situation first and then make Rook f2p
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>>563548954
>they pushed the Battle Royale button
Hot damn this thing is floppin' super hard ain't it.
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>>563550673
i hit rank 40 and its been awful
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>>563550356
It needs to be changed/removed entirely, it is a skill remover at present.
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>>563550840
In what way is that a battle royale
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>>563551002
everyone starts off at 0 (free kits) and try to get better loot from the map. i mean if we're being semantical, an extraction shooter is basically a BR but with an overarching inventory and mission system anyways with tweaks to the loot table. but at the heart a BR. this just brings it even closer to its BR roots.
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>>563551002
equal start makes it at least one step closer, but obviously being reductive for increased shitposting is in vogue
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>>563549836
This is basically what ranked should be. And it should be scored based on exfil value or the items and/or salvage. Though I think ranked could still be based on 2.5k paid kit or something.
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>>563551241
>>563551242
Oh gotcha, I feel like this mode will be skipped if you have a shitty kit for the day like Traxxus
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I'm not amazed by the EQ but ok
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>>563551514
what about the JQ
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>>563551584
there is a solution to that
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>>563550454
Even from estimated sales and proportional CCU decrease it's still wrong because CCU is affected more by other factors. Unless it's the most braindead daily grind mobile game, people will play significantly more during honeymoon phase compared to steady state playing. Which applies especially to Marathon because there are no time-gating or daily grind.
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>team of white shields
>push
>they have a shotgun
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>>563551425
Everyone being on a Traxus free kit in Dire Marsh isn't bad, Hardline has an effective range of like 80m, so long as you're not shooting it full speed and not moving it will absolutely kill people effectively without snipers invalidating its existence.
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>>563548954
>everyone starts with a freekit and use what they find to upgrade themselves
thats called Battle Royale
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>>563548954
>Zieglerfag begins making the game Apex Legends from first principles
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>>563552075
damn i totally forgot about the part in fortnite where you start with an AR and when you win you extract and get to keep all of the gear you had in your inventory
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>Marathon flopped
>Gets turned into Apex
Space Tarkov won, bigly
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>>563550840
With the focus being pvp, it makes most sense to shift it to BR as much as possible.
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where we droppin boys
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>>563551347
Yeah, and each rank tier you get slightly better starting weapons. Also everything in the kit should be damaged to prevent people from building up inventory on the kits alone once you start getting blues and purple in your base kit.
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>>563547978
>Bungie desesrves to be hated just for making the Volt weapons so incredibly shit.
>one hundred shot magazines
>extra damage to bots
>an entire class that juices them
>50 fucking credit V11 punch is the first and last gun you need when you're broke
>can be silenced
>can be charged for big blasts
>running refills the battery
>volt version of every gun type
Volt weapons are one of the only things they did right, you philistine. Cringe yourself to death over an actually valid concern next time.
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>can turn the game into apex
>bumping bots number and setting the matchmaking to one player?God no, that would destroy this game identity!
lmao.
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>>563552659
fr the v11 punch is goat
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>>563552659
My only complaint about any volt gun is that the Lookout's charge shot is a mode switch that takes time. It does not hit hard enough to warrant that. Also that assassin cloak should lose the anti-lock while he's moving outside of crouch since he's visible as fuck, but that's more of an assassin complaint than a volt weapon complaint.
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>Marathon will die before we find out what's going on in this timeline and where the fuck Durandal even is too
Nyo.....
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Is it better to just play and passively gain credits from vault clears?
or is it better to jump in on rook and nab primarily valuables?
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>>563550738
This is Bungie, they'll sadly never be able to get rid of cheaters.
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>>563552659
Does anyone know how much damage the charged shot on the punch even does? Feels like that's only ever good for bots
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>>563548954
A valiant attempt... but ultimately... futile...
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Looking good, guys!
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>>563553242
You're right!
It is looking good!
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bungie needs to make a mic only matchmaking. its cool if you want to be mute but i want nothing to do with you. ive started going into matchmaking with a freekit and if you dont talk i just leave its that simple
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>>563553242
it's over
what's next for Bungie?
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>>563552039
Iron sight Hardline on Dire Marsh is an absolute and complete pain in the ass to play
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>>563548954
This does literally nothing to help the present situation. Free-shitter containment lobbies wasn't what was missing from this game.
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>>563553339
Rape, followed by death.
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>>563553339
there is no next
they either save this game or die
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game should have been a roguelike mmo
that is all
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>>563552850
I highly suspect the punch will get nerfed before the bully just because its cheaper.
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>>563553384
It was if you were paying attention. First couple weeks sure everything was chaotic enough, but now freekits run into purples every match
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>>563553346
>standing
>moving
>shooting rapidly
Yeah it kinda sucks at those things, which sucks, it absolutely is still the worst gun, but it is accurate if you're crouched and shooting slowly.
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>>563553339
the guillotine
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>>563553906
it's such a basic bitch mode that there's zero excuse for why it wasn't in the game at launch. It was most impactful at launch, when the entire playerbase didn't know what the hell the game was or how anything worked. Now it's utterly pointless. There's no new influx of players, they're scared shitless over what they've been hearing about the game. The people playing right now that are broke as hell get SOMETHING to do, but do you want to know something? It's a waste of fucking time for them too. If they took their freekit into a real lobby and found a dead player with actually good goop on them, then they would actually be ahead for once. Now they'll be stocking their vault up with a collection of... free gotten gains from 1 (one) map. This does absolutely nothing at a time like this.

>we want to study the impact of low level gear progression
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU DO THAT BEFORE YOU LAUNCHED THE GAME?! YOU INCOMPETENCE FUCKING MORONS!! THIS IS BASIC BITCH MODE, AND YOU SLEPT ON IT.
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>>563553906
>Hmm, a lot of fill players are free kitting, what should we do to prevent that?
>Let's make freekits into seperate queue, Apex type shit, not only it will increase waiting time for the regular queue, but also increase the amount of free kitters in general! Isn't this great, Ziegler-sama?
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>Freekit only queue
Now that sounds like an actual fun game mode.
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>>563554574
You could play Apex you know.
This mode is just worse Apex when Apex does everything this game wanted to be.
The hero skills actually do matter over there.
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>>563553242
My theory:

They "fixed" the final exfill on outpost a week ago and made it even harder to exfill now by it now showing up consistently in Dormitories

Hence every rook and free kitter just dropped the game out of sheer spite of not being able to 8k in profit every round
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>>563554645
Except there's still everything else about extraction and progression.
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They should make "no kit" lobbies, knife only and no res/heal items
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>>563554645
Yeah except it might make people actually engage with the PvE a bit more instead of instantly going to slime everyone first.
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>>563554885
could be a fun event for 2 days, but nothing more
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>>563554952
that's giga cope, you'll just blitz to the first poi to set up and fight the closest team, you either get some good guns and go hunting or you go camp an exfil
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>>563554574
It would be a great time to have a free to play pairing with it.
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>>563554574
Dire marsh with 90% less snipers sounds amazing
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>>563555075
What good guns? Everyone is freekitting.
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https://youtu.be/ucEm3IuETVs

Yooo the marathon killer is coming
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>>563554574
>learning about our early gear ecosystem
Do they not have any data from when the game launched with 100,000 players across all systems and we all had empty vaults…? What the fuck are Bungie doing
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>>563555245
found in containers in the first poi after you wipe the next closest team, keep up anon
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>>563555075
>you'll just blitz to the first poi to set up
>on dire marsh
lmao no, everyone will just rush spawns because no one will have thermals or longshots, sweats will eat noobs alive, it's a literal rook game mode
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ranked has been a clown fiesta today. nobody actually wants to loot anything, they just wanna run in and try and fight people.
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>>563554401
i free kit because 7/10 times im match made with mutes that go and do their own thing. im not wasting my blues and purps on that. when i find a team for the night that uses comms and isn’t lobotomized i switch to what is in my vault
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>>563555429
Stealth ranked test
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>>563555429
>What the fuck are Bungie doing
even bungie doesn't even know.
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>>563554574
Didn't you want a battle royale when you signed up for Marathon?

Now say thank you you ungrateful chuds!
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MARARHON WON
CHUDS ARE TRASH
RETWEET THIS FOR MAXIMUM LIKES
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Apex won, bigly
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>>563557062
I have 5,000 hours in apzx and i love mararhon
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jesus, why is nobody talking in ranked. you know, the one mode where people SHOULD communicate.
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>>563557142
You're retarded? Cool!
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>unc wants to talk
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>>563557191
I fuck
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Embarassing
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>>563557169
Bruh I am always on mic
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>simply fed up with team fill
>discord randoms might as well be randoms, they talk but they still roll with low kits despite literally being in the exact scenario to run their good shit
>continually ran over in trios no matter what now
So I guess I'm a solo player now. It's still cancer when you get extract camped or ambushed with no recourse because someone was just camping a PoI but at least it doesn't feel like a constant 3v1 because your teammates are stupidly challenging by themselves and refusing to reposition.

I feel like church on blue team, genuinely.
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>>563557169
i said earlier in the thread that mic users should be matched with mic users. if people want to play a team game on mute that’s on them but i shouldn’t have to deal with them. just start free kitting and say hello and wait 10 seconds. if no one responds just leave and requeue
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>>563557169
I'm always the first one to talk, and after a minute or two teamates start talking also. people are shy hehehhe
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You have all been RAPED...
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>>563557393
Nah, he is one of the better marathon content creators
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>>563557169
>SOMEWHERE IN THE HEAVENS THEY ARE WAITING
>zero pfhor and ONE ayy in the entire game so far
:\
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>we’ve decided to double down on making apex except worse and experiment with a mode that nullifies the concept of loot
>also no big updates until june lol who cares if the queue times get even slower? what does that have to do with us?
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>>563559014
no refunds
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>>563559014
Logistically also they can't just manifest new content where they don't have. Western studios struggle with GaaS, they can't do the cadence of content Chinese games churn out every 6 weeks, western studios take 4 months per patch
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>>563557169
idk everytime i soloQd i got paired with 2 chatty burgers in green and blue shields, the types that sound like middle aged halo, cod or destiny chuds.
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no solo cryo was a poor choice
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>>563559509
They could enable duos right now but they’re saving it for Season 2. Maybe they have data that shows the game churns even faster when duos are active and that’s why they’re holding off, but otherwise there’s no excuse not to add a duo queue right now. That doesn’t require Chinese-level development prowess.
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>>563559740
>530 hours in a little over a month
Take a fucking shower
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>>563559740
I wish I was unemployed
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>>563557062
This shit made people flock back to apex it has 300k peaks now
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>this is what Marathon lost to
lmao
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>>563559740
why no-life such a shitty game
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>>563552390
The playerbase stopped farming for loot and started farming players after the first week of cryo. looting is irrelevant in a PVP game
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>>563554574
will this be queue have solo?
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>>563560593
lol
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>>563560593
That will be an experimental mode for a random week on season 2!
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>>563559740
>average 12 hours a day since release
confirmed to either have left the game open, faked the post, or legit mental illness
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>Can't even break 18k, let alone 20k anymore.
Oh lawd, hahahaha
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>was chillin random filling in ranked earlier
>bronze 3 to silver 3
>back to back losses now
are the employed people off work or something
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>>563560934
>legit mental illness
this one, but i'm also 42 and retired so it's not a problem
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>>563561256
the dropoff is accelerating
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>>563561298
brought nothing in but a railgun this fucking nigger
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>>563561478
quake player
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>>563561256
>>563561403
at least we aint arc raiders sissy ass hoe
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>>563560218
well no shit, it's PVE dad sim. that's what everybody wants lol.
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>>563561628
dats rite dis game is only for hard ass niggas fr
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>>563561628
Erm around here we call it *** ******* sis
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I'm still pissed they wasted reviving the Marathon IP on fucking extraction slop that nobody wants to play
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>>563561478
he's hacking
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>>563560218
Capcucks will buy anything Capcom makes regardless of quality. Even a pedophile simulator. Maybe especially a pedophile simulator, looking at the Mega Man threads.

>>563561963
>tfw we will never get to see the Security Officer put that dweeb John Halo in a headlock and give him a noogie like he deserves
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>>563561538
More of a flak cannon guy myself.
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>>563562070
>Capcucks will buy anything Capcom makes regardless of quality. Even a pedophile simulator. Maybe especially a pedophile simulator, looking at the Mega Man threads.
Why is it a pedophile simulator? Does the robot man try to rape the little girl?
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>>563562034
brother just ran around deleting everyone with the ares
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>>563553102
its like halo where it doesnt necessarily deal godlike damage but if charged it oneshots their shields
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https://youtu.be/e9Q1IpV-UCg?si=eFBt7ve_ueNfnMHo

>"I don't really see a path forward right now"
>Who is this game designed for??

The honeymoon phase is over
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>>563562718
>Who is this game designed for??
i like it
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>>563559740
cringe.........
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Shroud status?
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>>563562718
>"I don't really see a path forward right now"
Yeah
>Who is this game designed for??
Nobody! It's hardcore, chud!
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The recon shell cinematic is truly a moving visual story about the last two players still playing Marathon.
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>>563562901
-1 player from the CCU count
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I want the game to die because I didnt get cool stuff and felt cucked playing it. Is it gonna die honestly?
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>>563561305
what was ur secret
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>>563562901
Got his bag and ran, like usual. If you ever took king shill himself's opinion as genuine than you're a sucker.
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marathon is definitely one of the games of all time
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>>563561809
>it's a dad sim
For me, it's Machine Child.
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>>563563367
I figured rape would be bigger
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I know this is an extraction shooter, but I swear to fuck that the nonstop PvP ruins the game. You have one friendly encounter helping another person, and that rare feel good moment is ripped away because your exfill is ruined by some faggot assassin camping in a corner, or someone thermal sniping you from across the map.
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>>563563367
if u make a canvas of this thread its rape rape rape player count rape dead rape players dead rape chuds destiny rape
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Not beating the Maratroon allegations
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>>563562718
>Muh new player onboarding
Tarkov has more players than Marathon and that game has a bunch of bullshit systems that are not new player friendly. The game is mid. If I want to explore a world with a deeper questing system and gun autism, I can go play Tarkov and soon to be Spaceov. If I want some casual thing I can go to Arc Raiders. If I want a highly-competitive shooter, why not go to the dozens of highly-competitive shooters and hero shooters. Ranked in an extraction shooter? When ranked and competitive games are all about having a level playing field and having skill being the deciding factor. Heroes in an extraction shooter when the core of the genre is tricking out your guy and making him wear that cool armor piece you found. Even if Arc doesn't do this, at least you can swap the pieces around the different skins and it has a variety of clown-core skins. The skins in this game are glorified paint jobs. So you have this weird game that wants to be a highly competitive hero shooter in a genre all about ensuring your character has the most imbalanced gear to stack the odds in your favor the second the match starts. Add on top of that ugly guns, boring AI, boring maps, limited content, and run of the mill shooting and moving, yeah no. It is not a new player onboarding problem. The game is just kinda average.
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>>563564319
>The game is just kinda average.
You can just say bad, it's bad.
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>>563563367
>rape hours
>weekend entirely fucked
>safe raped
>exfil hate week
>lose gold completely
>smoke retards
>20k immediately peak
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If you actually earned XP for shit and farming for shit wasn't such incredible bullshit it'd be fine, just make it less tedious and possible to do things and it'll work
just let there be a respite from the rape
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>>563565181
It'd also be helpful if there was just some, ANY form of insurance. Or if the DCON kits can be used to extract items you want outside of specific contracts.
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>>563564319
>Tarkov has more players than Marathon and that game has a bunch of bullshit systems that are not new player friendly.
Tarkov had a decade of onboarding through drip fed development, community resources, and youtube content to guide players through it.
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>>563563367
>wstr instead
>please giving fans buy
>listen chud
>boss rape
>dont anon
>safe raped dead
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>>563565391
Nobody wants to watch Youtube videos on how to do everything, that's why Destiny 2 failed.
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Niggas will cook your biscuits and that's tha namr of the game
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>>563565383
one time item extraction during a match would be cool, ideally being exactly the same appearing as a normal extract and didn't require you to be there. It'd make extraction beacons more uncertain. Still needs a lot more XP and less RNG in getting keys and sheer item amounts. Let people complete shit even in death more and have more permanent progress especially if they're doing fucking wipes
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>Ranked fill
>it's a zoomer duo
>ask me if i have anywhere to go
>"Not really"
>Second guy pipes up all hyped saying they're just here to PVP AND GET GOOPED UP
>south relay
>spot a runner hiding behind a door
>neither teams are pushing
>i run up to the door, open it and stab the guy to death
>team doesn't push in.
>one guy get's downed and the third is still standing outside
>nobody pushes in to back me up and I go down
>last guy goes down without firing a bullet
I thought there were here to PvP???
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>>563565391
tarkov had a legion of direct milsim larpers jerking off to anything to go innawoods and rape
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I'm really excited for Space Tarkov, shame that Marathon sucks so much dick.
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>>563562718
He is right about one thing at the end, Marathon feels too video-gamey and has fuck all for immersion. Maybe its the amount of people in the maps or how the maps are structured but you don't get lost in the world like you do with Tarkov.
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>>563566306
>Maybe its the amount of people in the maps or how the maps are structured but you don't get lost in the world like you do with Tarkov.
Or Destiny or Halo. This is the least Bungie-feeling game Bungie has ever made.
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i like u /mg/ dont come to outpost solos 2nite
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Why the hell do key rooms make music? the entire map can hear, complete bullshit
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>>563567390
Imagine if in Tarkov you open up a key room and it starts blasting Hardbass across the whole map.
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I hate that I never got the cool mods or cool weapons. 90 hours barely anything good

I feel...depressed. I quit a week ago anyways
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>>563566023
just removing "in one run" quests would go a long ways, nobody enjoys that shit
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>>563567534
They already proved they could do that with some of the Traxus quests they just don't want to commit for some reason.
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>>563567390
Because they want you to die. Obviously.
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I don't care if they nerf the loot or whatever cryo needs to be open 24/7. All of the other maps are a snooze fest
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>only 1.8% of players reached lvl 100
haha, im top 0.5% then
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Chuds wanna s the d of a champion. Is it not true?
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>>563567473
How can I not feel depressed about it?
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>>563567450
kek

>>563567821
Yeah idk what else you do but wait till theres af ew mins left
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>>563567473
>>563568127
what cool mods and weapons? did you never farm pinwheel at least?
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>>563567390
I work at Bungie and can confirm whenever I open a locked door with my badge it blares an alarm across the entire building so that everyone knows that someone entered the 3rd floor storage closet where exotic paper towels are kept. A fight ensues every time.
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>>563568307
I did pinwheel, I did cryo, I did some bosses but I never got good stuff. I only played random fills so I only managed to find keys for rooms like 3 times and out of those 3 times I never got to open them. I got wiped or camped every time.

I feel...depressed and suicidal in general.
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>>563568318
>tfw you had to fight off the interns coming out of the vents for the paperclips in the 2nd floor supplies closet
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>>563567172
don't get back stabbed in a dark corner, mate.
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>>563568427
>I feel...depressed and suicidal in general.
Probably don't play Rape Championship 2026 then. baka
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>>563569137
nta but the rape makes you feel alive and desired
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NOOOOOOOO
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Fuck you bitches
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im done
IM FUCKING DONE
i like this game but fuck im done with it. at least this season.
maybe they will fix something in season 2
but as it stands right now this shit is impossible unless you are unemployed with 2 other unemployed friends.
the first week was great. you won some, you lost some. you had a good time doing it
now?
BUBBLE SHIELD NO SCOPE 360 THERMAL SNIPER ACROSS THE MAP WITH A GOLD SHIELD AND ALL GOLDS ON FUCKING DIRE MARSH
not cryo
DIRE MARSH
IVE FUCKING HAD IT
MAKE THE GOLDS FIGHT EACH OTHER AND LET THEM PLAY THE SHITTIEST VERSION OF BLOOD GULCH. IM NOT HAVING IT ANYMORE
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>thief can hack turrets and bots
What the fuck? Why does Thief get so much utility meanwhile I can't even move and shoot with the shield out or powerslide and shoot.
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And here he comes, this...Alien. And he's better.
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>>563569721
i like watching to see if people will take my woosters and self revives and stuff when i die i dont care the game is fun as hell
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THIS JUST CAME OUT A MONTH AGO AND COST $300M+ AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
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>Believing a word Bungie says
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>>563571910
depending on when that screenshot was taken it is currently -1 because i refuse to open this game again
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>>563571910
woah there dont you know you cant post steam charts in this thread
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>The team is jamming on "experiential" queues
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>>563572537
justin bieber better
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>>563563767
cringe. Should have played better to avoid being prey.
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>load up game
>Die
>Play something else for the rest of the day
>Load up game
>Die
>Play something else for the rest of the day
My main complaint in Marathon though is 99% of the time you'll die to players which is lame
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Paul tassi killed a hunnid niggas on his way to the top
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>>563573124
>Ate
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>>563573124
>Raped
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I genuinely think free kit mode will stop the bleed, yes it’s just a kind of BR where you leave with your loot but that’s fine, a live-service game desperately needs something more casual
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I'm finna gonna play tn
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>Me and my normie stack kill a squad with purple shields somehow
>We run 6 raids in a row and have 6 great raids
>Our 7th raid we die, but went down with a fight
>they bitch and wine "omg this game is so bullshit!"

Why do people have this mentality? We had 6 literal wins in a row where we steamrolled shit and then die once and suddenly the sky is falling.
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>>563573351
that's what i said last night and the day before and the day before
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>>563573339
Honestly it's fine
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>"Honestly it being a BR is fine"
Stage 3: Bargaining
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>>563573631
It's a mode for retards, you're better off rocking a free kitt in regular mode cuz maybe you take their loot.
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>>563563767
Maps are too small and there is nothing to do but pvp. Tarkov is better in this regard as you can often play in a laid back manner and avoid pvp entirely if you are patient.
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>>563573894
It's a shame you can't see the bigger picture
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>>563573947
I don't..
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>>563574014
You will, don't worry. But it will involve Bungie being raped.
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>>563574067
I'm gonna rape honestly it might attract "players"
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>>563573946
This is all because they listened to a handful of retards during server slam that there weren't enough players and that the bots were too hard
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>>563573631
A br with no stakes and everyone on mostly equally footing where you keep the loot to use in other game modes sounds pretty good, I think the majority of consistent fun I had in this game was the first days/week when everyone was grey and green shields with whatever guns they found on perimeter and dire.
I’d watch this game end of service and feel nothing I just think in isolation, not concerning whether or not bungie is competent, it’s interesting to think about how it could be less of commercial failure.
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>They killed Destiny 2 for a game that died in less than a month
I'm not surprised but it's still pretty fucking pathetic. Now they have no cash flow.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI
Gives me serious Marathon 2026 vibes
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fess up gang which one of you told this fag off
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>>563566306
Yeah to me something makes them feel sterile or something not sure what the right word is. Every map has the vibe of running around a halo 3 map alone in a custom game, empty theme park I guess. Just not what you want in an extraction shooter
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Fine, I will check it the astrology again updated
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>100 hours
>only level 66
Shit this is pretty grindy...
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Guys I can't play the game right now. Why? Because my vaults full. Somehow the game expects me to cough up 50k just to increase the amount of funbux I can carry in my wally. I neither want to risk my current kit at peak nighttime (mcsweats' delight) nor do I have the ability to run free kits or even Rook. I WOULD play if it wasn't for all these reasons that the game ate imposing on my right now.

Tl;dr : Bungie invented a game that actively punishes people for playing the game by so heavily restricting options while simultaneously making it too great a risk to lose. You literally can't just dick around in this game unless you melt shit or lose it. What the hell were they thinking??
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This doesn't look good. Still reading.
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>>563574216
They did the same thing with Destiny 1 going into Destiny 2. D1 was in a really good spot and then D2 decided to not take ANYTHING they had learned over the last two years, and it almost got them killed if not for Forsaken fixing most things. Edge of Fate was just peak retard from Bungie, no clue what they were thinking, that did more damage to Destiny than anything else.
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>>563575226
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T DOOM ON A GAME I ALREADY QUIT?
>STOP YELLING AT ME TO PLAY ANYTHING ELSE; I AAAAMMMMM!
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>>563576425
@Grok what does this mean?
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>>563576303
get over your gear fear. waste that shit.
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Finna rock a m77 whilst i have a boner
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is the volt sniper any good?
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>>563576303
you'll soon realise that most of the crap in your vault early on, isn't worth keeping.
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>>563562070
>imblygin both of them aren't %Hero and according to the original lore, Sec Officer/Cyborg didn't restart the universe and gave us the events of Halo
It's like you didn't watch the Mandalore video.
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>>563576425
Transits are the movement of energy and planets with time. Marathon's birth chart had issues I explained before.
The transits I find interesting for Marathon, this is only for Marathon, not Bungie directly.
Chiron was in the 11th on natal, chiron is a lifelong wound on the house of community and friendship...What else to say?
Transit wise, sun transit on natal chiron means the conversation on player counts will be the main focus, by Bungie themselves? Sony? Could expect an statement but it could refer to the experimental mode. I would expect a very very clear message about it "soon"

Basically, sun there means wound exposure. Could refer to people like Tassi talking about it that openly.

Mercury on 12th, statement about pricing or monetization... 2 days to 1 week timeframe?
Im burnt out on this game so I dont care as much as I did on launch but, saturn on lilith, mc and asc
means that there will be a course correction and attempts at work, by embracing something outside? embracing something usually supressed, what that could mean for this game i dont know, rework? not sure (2 to 6 weeks)
Something unconventional to marathon and something suppressed as the likely path forward

no clue on if it works from this

the windows for significant financial success and community building (which i mentioend would be a natural problem for the game based on its natal chart and birth) have already passed, its the past. A community never solidified.

unlikely to be shut down
next 4 to 8 weeks are critical for a course correct

PLuto 9th is interesting. Rework, destruction, the game will do two things, either step away from the live service as we think of it or casualize. Not a quick patch but a reworking of systems

Profit is still hidden due to transit venus taurus on 12th

I think the game will get a 2nd chance but not a third???
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>>563577701
Given the original game's lore... Sure this all seems sane and reasonable.
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New mode is going to be horrendous for normal play. Every below average retard is going to queue there, making normal queues straight death squads. So now if you want to risk your take a good kit in and you aren't running with a stacked, skilled trio, say bye-bye to your gear.

Great idea Bungo.
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>>563577957
>>563577701
I think it will go free to play, something about monetization will change thats on the chart.
if it wants to survive it wont be the same marathon that launched, i said it on launch week and ill say it again, pluto means a heavy rework is the only thing that makes the game survive the long term.
The wipe is not on the chart, too soon to be able to read that, i mean theres a method for thta but im too lazy to do it


the game is as of the transit temporal range unlikely to ever hit the 88k peak, expect 20k give or take but maybe 40k to 60k with new content, actual new content.
IF Bungie does a heavy rework or an expasion, again what im saying that "marathon as it is now cant survive" thats your player thing

eh i dont care anymore to read as in depth as i did back then
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>>563572931
i got my fill of rape from a uesc ghost today thank you very much
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>>563578991
>Ghost
don't those get 1 shot by a heavy knife?
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>>563548954
You've got to be fucking kidding me. He's trying to bait some zero to hero streamer shit.

>>563546846
LOL. Try botting the report button more. You deserve what you get.
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>>563579635
>zero to hero streamer shit
That's exactly what the mode will turn into, especially since it's coming so late. Half the sweats are likely getting bored, and this will provide "content" for them in the form of a soft reset for them to shit on the ever shrinking pool of shitters.
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>>563549304
What the fuck am I even reading? This isn't some pissant minimum viable product we're talking about. This is a AAAA budget game, and we have a pretty good idea what a reasonable range of IAP spend per player is possible to make up the literal millions of dollars a month this game needs for server costs, not even considering further development. The CCU proves that there's been pretty much zero viral attraction to the game.
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>>563549440
If anything they want to reduce the number of queues, because they don't have the user base.

>>563550738
>Solve the cheating situation.
Seriously. This is bungie we're talking about.
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>>563579950
Yes, the campaign by the raped was very effective. There wouldn't be so big disparity between player sentiment and non-player sentiment otherwise
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>>563577303
my purple shields and rare weapons are not worth keeping?
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>>563548954
I don't know who needs to hear this but the reason why they are so weird about the duo queue and pushing it for maybe next season is they need more players to sustain it and they are hoping for a season 2 jump in players so they can turn it on also they are trying to act like this queue is "new content" to get you to come back. They gave up on this season basically.
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>>563550840
It's not concord, but it's looking ubisoft class of AAAA that will probably never hit a third of it's budget.

>>563551760
I'm not so sure. I've been promised finality before.
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>>563552902
Run the spreadsheet. Remember, you're primary objective is to get shit that will survive the wipe.
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>>563553906
So, what is going to be the effect here? Less free kitters trying to stop you from completing your shit? People with loads of free kit trash?

>>563554310
Sounds likely.

>>563555429
>What the fuck are Bungie doing
Thrashing before death it sounds like.
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>Bungie ignores the very obvious play to limit daily free kits to incentivize queuing as Rook
>sets up a free kit exclusive queue that will obliterate the normal queue’s times instead
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>>563580281
if you don't take them into cryo at the very least then why even have them?
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>>563580965
>contd.
Limiting free kits would also incentivize actually queuing into the normal maps WITH GEAR. I’m sure they’ll try this in six months when they have 500 concurrent players.
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>>563577239
The channel rifle? It's good by virtue of being a sniper, but it's probably the "weaker" of the 3. The longshot is the basic bitch sniper but it's the best since it has the highest fire rate, meanwhile the Outland is useful since it has a pretty damn high base damage and the fire rate isn't too bad for a bolt action. The channel rifle can have nice base damage, but it's just a bit awkward to use "in a fight" since you have to charge it up. Supposedly it being a volt cell weapon means it builds up heat on people you shoot but there's no way to tell how much you are building up and if it's even worth it.

There's an arguement it could be useful to rock as a Triage so you can EMP people from 100m+ away? Maybe his overcharge speeds up the charging time or something, honestly have no clue. Unfortunately it's just one of the more bougie weapons that pale in comparision to stuff people can readily get cheaper and more commonly. It's still a sniper so it's good, but if we're talking raw efficientcy the longshot is probably better.
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I hate Darsh so much
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>>563581194
That's the best idea, kick people who lose out of the game when they don't win when already disadvantaged, they will love that!
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>>563578189
maybe they should add solo queue priority
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>>563563314
In it's current form, it's guaranteed to die. They will need to make dramatic changes so it will be unrecognizable. Possibly go free to play.


>>563563767
That's not inherrent to extraction shooters. It's litteraly the enitre design focus of the game. Huge hours were spent trying to make the game maximally PVP.
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>>563581314
ty sir : )
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>>563565181
>just let there be a respite from the rape
That's denying the fun for the rapists.

>>563566023
More effort than what current bungie can do.
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Why is it that devs can put a good game out the door, then just proceed to completely shit the bed when the game is at-market? Where the fuck is the team that made the game as good as it is? Surely they can't be the same ones that thing putting shitters in a special queue is going to somehow fix the game? It's just going to make it impossible to play normally, with your gear, because everyone else in normal queue is going to be total nolifers. Zero chance of running into average players in the FUCKING NORMAL MODE.

Christ what the fuck. It's Helldivers 2 all over again; they get an amazing game out the door then proceed to smear shit all over it immediately.
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I've finished the first two marathon games and am about halfway through infinity and the player movement has not grown on me at all, it's so fucking awful and floaty and slippery. Story and terminals have been cool, though.
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This game is actually more brutal than tarkov despite all the vibrant colors. The difference in skill between people who have been playing and noobs is night and day. At least in tarkov you had a chance with a lucky mosin shot to the head or a lucky nade, in this you'll get full sprinted by purple shields with shotties and get completely stomped and defeated and you'll no longer want to play unless you like cock and ball torture.
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>>563581839
That's pretty much every old FPS. It comes with the territory. They can't change it with mods because it'd mean pretty much redesigning the entire campaign for different movement tech.
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>>563566372
Because all the people that made the bungie games you remember what they are are long gone from the company.

>>563567450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OoglRuT0jY
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>infinite free kits until account level 10
>3 per day after that
>1,000 credit ante on each map
>you actually have to earn the opportunity to play fun shells instead of just Rook
>fewer free kits in normal annoying everyone bringing in gear, more people exposed to low-stress and dynamic Rook gameplay
There you go, Bungie. I saved your game.
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>>563573947
Can you explain the bigger picture, in a NON rape related way?

>>563578189
Isn't that the intent?
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>>563582079
>locking retards out of playing the game entirely
Nope. The real solution is to put freekitters in teams with other freekitters, with a big red warning popup telling you
>WARNING: YOU WILL BE PLACED IN A CREW WITH OTHER PLAYERS UTILIZING FREE SPONSORED KITS.
>Build a kit from your armory of gear to give yourself and your crew the best chance of survival!
You can trio fill with your shitkit but you won't be ruining other people's time with it. It incentivizes you to build a kit without actually saying "no you can't run". Puts players with similar expectations together as well.
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>>563582246
If the intent was to completely burn your existing playerbase, then sure yeah I guess that's the intent. It's going to piss off anyone that isn't running at the top because now you're guaranteed to be queuing up against battleroids, not even a chance of running against a shitter team or two.
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Knowing the spawns is another game-changer.
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>>563582642
>multiplayer game requires extensive meta-knowledge outside of something you can experience in-game
I hate games that are really streamer and third party site extensive
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>game becomes even more unplayable during fill
based
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>>563582000
The other old fps games I've played feel a lot tighter to control for me, level design might play into it.
>>563582642
I'm surprised they didn't try to think up a different way to handle spawning given that tarkov has had problems with spawn rushing forever due to the static spawns. Is a good solution that hard to find?
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>>563582806
Please spend 10 hours memorizing key routes for every spawn on outpost or else everyone else in your lobby will be doing it and you'll be forced to pick up scraps forever
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You could solve spawns by having multiple sets of per-positioned spawn points then having a system randomly cycle in a few from each set for every match while accounting for potential overlaps.
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>>563582961
The maps need to be bigger on Marathon for one or player count on the maps should be reduced
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>>563582961
>Is a good solution that hard to find?

It's a map size issue desu. You overcome it by making sure that by the time you rush anywhere the team is long gone.
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I heard that you're settled down
That you found a girl and you're married now
I heard that your dreams came true
Guess she gave you things I didn't give to you
Old friend, why are you so shy?
Ain't like you to hold back or hide from the light

[Pre-Chorus]
I hate to turn up out of the blue, uninvited
But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it
I had hoped you'd see my face
And that you'd be reminded that for me, it isn't over

[Chorus]
Never mind, I'll find someone like you
I wish nothing but the best for you, too
Don't forget me, I beg
I remember you said
Sometimes it lasts in love, but sometimes it hurts instead
Sometimes it lasts in love, but sometimes it hurts instead
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I'm tired of my sore anus
The pleasure of violating others is wearing thin when I can no longer extract without a three stack
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Self revives need a nerf. If you kill someone they shouldn't get up in a few seconds. Even a 10 second delay would be huge.
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>>563583809
Problem is bubbles + self. Either in a vacuum is fine but those two allow a kitted team to completely reset fights within seconds.
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I'm starting to hit my wall I think. 225 hours in, I just can't keep up anymore. Not even a gear thing, I take in golds and purples, I've completed cryo with subroutines and killed the compiler. I'm just getting matched with players who consistently outplay me on every level, from movement to aim. I so much as turn the wrong corner or peek to try and shoot back and I get melted.
I just wish I could go back to 2 weeks ago, I was having so much fun with my squad. We didn't always succeed but we got out pretty regularly, cleared lobbies. Now we're lucky to get a single exfil in an entire night of after work gaming.
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>>563584434
I think we're gonna start seeing a lot more of these posts. With the playerbase declining, the only people who will stick around are ultra-sweats who play all day.
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>Ranked trios
>sitting on top station
>see nothing
>rotate to hauler
>can hear foot steps inside
>only one set of feet
>forget solos can play with trios
>they do the profit oppurtunity
>follow them to south relay
>hear the exfil go up
>rotate to it but have to shoot bots
>steal their profit oppurtunity loot
>get in the exfil
>final seconds and a stealthed assassin hops in
dude was playing solos and we were gonna exfil with nothing until we spooked him killing bots and stole all his hard earned loot.
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>>563584562
I knew this would happen eventually, it only makes sense. As the weakest tier of players leave the next group of players gets put up on the chopping block to be farmed by better players. Just never thought it would happen so soon.
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High ground in this game is so busted. If you aren't instantly finished off with a sniper, you can just scoot into cover and revive and go again.
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https://x.com/NAPainter_/status/2043738136115614036
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>>563584732
he won, you lost
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>>563582961
>Is a good solution that hard to find?
It's not trivial. Especially as the solutions have downstream issues, like encounter frequency. Medal of Honor Airborne and fortnite solve it by having people parachute in.

Rook partially deals with this by having them show up at different points later.


Marathon's design aims towards maximum hostility at all times

>>563584434
It's a lot easier with wallhack.
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We will see sub 20k this week. Let's fucking go!!!!
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>>563584732
>ranked perimeter again
>watching south relay
>an assassin gets the drop on my buddy but we clean up. wait around for his team....
>IT'S ANOTHER SOLO ASSASSIN.
>he had 2 1k tags on him, a gold zues, two purple shields and back pack
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>>563585049
I don't feel like it should be that hard to designate broad areas as spawn potential zones instead of set locations, and run an algorithm at start to place players down with respect to rough distance to one another, probably in clusters. I don't get why you would ever have set spawns in these sort of games.
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>>563586189
The problem wouldn't be solved by shifting the spawn points around by 100m desu. The problem is just being able to confidently rush a much more general area and just waiting for them to make noise against bots or something
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anyone got a steam key?
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>>563585857
Nah there's an update, sub 20k won't happen for another 2 weeks
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Are rooks enabled in duos? I never tried the playlist
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>>563576303
Sell your stuff
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>>563578189
Wait, so we have

>Ranked for the cheaters
>Trios for the sweats
>Freekits for the casuals

Seems like they have to make new modes for the prey to escape to.
This game is finished.
No one wants to engage with the other skill braked, and they coud have evaded all this shit by just implementing sbmm.
So the shizo was right.
All their problems just steem from not having sbmm.
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>>563578340
Jesus, imagine going free to play not even 3 months in this games fruitfly life cycle.
I want my refund then.
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>>563578340
How would f2p fix anything if the mtx aren't appealing at all
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>>563578340
>40k
>60k

Dude, if they do cryo again after the whipe, not even 5k players gonna see it.

Imagine running the whole progression threadmill again for maybe 1 map.
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>>563581813
Wait, so you just played the game to dab on shitters?
Maybe the game was.....
Shit all along.
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>>563590324
For the test runs they weren't. Made playing on Outpost great since you didn't have to watch your back once you wiped a lobby.
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F the chuds
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>>563595426
Chuds did this by doing nothing
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Patch notes when?
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>>563586189
There are set locations, but at the same time where people spawn in solo and trios is always a crap shoot, as the spawn algorithm already shuffles around the number of players and spawn points. It's the same as with the current Destroyed wing. You've got 40+ possible spawn locations for the five panels you need to shoot, but the odds of them ever being in exactly the same order is very low.
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I killed this game with my freakin mind
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this stupid maintenance starts 10:30pm here in australia.
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I guess this game will just quietly survive now. Peace at last
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>server slam overshadowed by RE9
>launch overshadowed by Slay the Spire II
>Cryo overshadowed by Crimson Desert
>mid-season update overshadowed by survival craft slop
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the servers are down....
>>563597559
where did they announce maintenance? can't see the announcement on the steam page
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>>563598381
no idea what this shit is but the black flag remake sounds like it's coming soon which will be the next gamer zeitgeist
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>>563598626
maintenance ends in 3 hours
https://help.marathonthegame.com/hc/en-us/articles/39001626488596-Marathon-Server-and-Update-Status
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>955 players
KEKAROOSKI
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>>563599716
are you retarded? the servers are down for maintenance
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>>563599983
>T- THE SERVERS ARE DOWN!!!
COPE WILL MAKE ME GOD
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Dead game
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https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_106
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ONI has launched the C.A.R.R.I. or CyberAcme Runner Reinforcement Initiative, a new protocol that rewards both solo Runners and coordinated Crews for completing contract objectives and exfiling together.
CyberAcme Commendations are a new material earned by helping crewmates complete contract objectives, completing contract objectives as a solo Runner, or successfully exfiling as a Rook. Extra commendations can be earned when you exfil with other players outside of your Crew. Play nice, now.
Added Stay Together, a new end-of-run experimental feature that allows you to stay with the Runners you just successfully exfiled with by creating a new Crew with them. Who said you can’t make friends on Tau Ceti?
Only one crewmate needs to successfully exfil for Stay Together to be available – if you’re eliminated, stay connected!
Added the capability to access the Rewards Pass from the top left display of SILK.
We want to increase the value of the Rewards Pass, both the Free and Premium tracks. As a result, we are adding 4 New Runner Shell styles, a WSTR Shotgun style, and a profile emblem to the Season 1 Rewards Pass:
Premium Track: Thief, Assassin, Destroyer
Free Track: Recon, WSTR Shotgun, Profile Emblem
Fixed an issue where the rank up rewards tutorial could be out of sequence.
Disciples of Arachne earnable shell styles are now available in the Codex.
Updated the Perimeter (Beginner) new player map to now be a solos-only map that remains available to players until Seasonal Level 12.
The Perimeter (Beginner) map presents a reduced risk of encountering other Runners.
Added five new contracts for the Perimeter (Beginner) map.
New and existing players under Seasonal Level 12 will also have access to new optional CyberAcme contracts tailored for the beginner experience to help with their first steps in Marathon.
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>ONI has launched the C.A.R.R.I. or CyberAcme Runner Reinforcement Initiative, a new protocol that rewards both solo Runners and coordinated Crews for completing contract objectives and exfiling together.
>CyberAcme Commendations are a new material earned by helping crewmates complete contract objectives, completing contract objectives as a solo Runner, or successfully exfiling as a Rook. Extra commendations can be earned when you exfil with other players outside of your Crew. Play nice, now.
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>Added 11 new Deluxe (Blue rarity) Unique weapons
>>These can drop from Showcase encounters in Perimeter and Dire Marsh. Can you collect them all?
>>Developer Note: These Deluxe Uniques follow a similar paradigm as the Prestige Uniques found in Cryo Archive Locked Rooms but are at a power appropriate for a Deluxe weapon. This means each Deluxe Unique comes with a specially designed sweetener that can only be found on that Unique version of the weapon. Happy hunting!
For example: The DRRVISH Prestige Submachine Gun found in Cryo Archive has a custom-made mod for the BRRT SMG which increases stability, handling, and accuracy when firing from the hip. It additionally has the unique trait Hypertemporal Shot that fires all 5 rounds of the burst at once in a tight spread.
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https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_carri
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>Additionally, Perimeter (Beginner) has been adjusted to better accommodate newer players. The map will be available as a solos-only map up to Runner Level 12 for those who prefer a bit more safety as they initially navigate Tau Ceti. Just don’t let your guard down; the UESC have no mercy.
What does this mean
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>>563601880
Newfags get a playlist that matches them only with other newfags
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>can make solo-only map
How long until they cave in and make them permanent?
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wtf they've actually been working, sony must have been glinting light into their eyes with a samurai sword
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>>563602052
if they do that the game will die methinks, would just be a lamer arc raiders
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>>563601559
Wow neat
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>>563601496
>>563601728
Hmm, not bad. A lot of shit that should've been in at launch, but it seems they're realizing that no one was gonna play if it didn't have *** ******** style elements. I'm gonna continue holding off on buying for now though and see if they add a pve mode
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My astrology was...right? Not sure I wanna play the game again though
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>>563602052
You can play solo-only on every map sans Cryo already
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>All Rooks now spawn with a Mercy Kit by default.
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>>563602493
>get my head blown smoove off twice for double the arachne hp
Based
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>>563602423
Yea i know, but the way they worded it makes it sound it's just you vs the bots
>>563602164
Can't get worse than now
Besides, they have destinyfag starving for content, i can almost guarantee (you) that a huge chunk of them would jump ship if they add a pve mode
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>>563601496
Railguns usable now
SMG rebalance
Sniper and thermal nerf
Self-res nerf
Destroyer nerf
Thief drone nerf (and I'm a Thief main)
Recon fixed

Perfection
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holy crap this patch fixed everything
everyone who quit is going to flood back to the game now
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I don't think anything will make me come back to the game. 90 hours and couldnt find a key for rooms and the 3 times I did I got randoms to get me killed. Keys stolen. Never got golden guns, no matter how many tries soft locked in a nucal quest.
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Why did they gut longshot but not touch wstr overflow or flechette spam
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>Extra commendations can be earned when you exfil with other players outside of your Crew. Play nice, now.
fat fucking chance that ever happening, everyone's gotten into the shoot on sight mindset and they sure as hell won't change now
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>>563603328
Because you touch yourself at night and beat your wife
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im still done with the game after last night
thermals need to be removed or banned from dire marsh
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>>563603713
The mindset is basically the game's identity. Sure would have been a good thing to try with no audio chance and 1 team less per match. Now everyone plays for the pvp
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>>563603328
because normies engage with wstr and close combat clips on social media but people don't like thermal sniping. bungie unironically cares more about the watchability of the game than real balance
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>>563602123
It just felt inevitable at the rate the game was losing players, not to mention the fact that the Tarkov devs just announced their own sci-fi game that could literally just be space Tarkov for all we know. You can’t out Tarkov Tarkov, so you may as well make things more forgiving and chase after that wider audience.
There’s also the thing too that if hypothetically half of Bungie is working on a Destiny 3 now, that means Marathon is now going to be the one product that has to make them money since D2 is done and dusted. That would be the necessary fire lit under their ass to make them work.
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>>563603713
I could get into it maybe it will be a race to team up the fastest to kill the other people
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>>563603719
how do u know
>>563603865
kek
the funniest thing is the next "map" will be fucking nighttime dire marsh, making the problem even worse
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>>563603713
It’s not everyone, but that’s basically 1 out of maybe 100 games where you can find someone actually friendly. If this marks Marathon’s slow ascent into ditching the PvP or becoming more PvE focused like *** ******* then I welcome it.
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>>563603047
Seems to be the consensus. Bungie sure cooked here. The game is saved.
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how to fix game
bubbles - gone
thermals - gone
a mixture of sbmm, rank, and loadout weighted match making
if there isnt enough players to make above happen - bot fill/ just only have 3 or 2 teams instead.
bully - nerf
higher variety of guns found in maps - im always finding the same guns in lockers
in a single exfil - lowered
maps - more
pve mode - yes. required to bring in your gold shit and make bots super hard with bungie puzzles.
vault wipe - monthly. yes monthly
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Lost like half my vault playing drunk last night fudge
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>>563604586
i was barred out the other day and had some of the best matches ive ever had.
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>>563604586
You were asking to be raped
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>>563604727
Interesting
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>>563604752
Some thief was jumping around i hate that shit just stand still
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Best patch ever. Bungie truly are gaming gods
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>>563604023
The meta just shifts to outland teams being server admins, it doesn't really fix the massive sightlines on every map.
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>>563601496
oh boy oh boy let's read the Vandal buffs
>we fixed low profile accidentally being a useful core, our bad
>ult lower cooldown, which was never a problem
awesome
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>POV: you have been saving up your blue thermals for that one run
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Im not returning to Marathon, Im gonna play and goon to pragmata instead
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>When the final exfil is active and there are less than 10 seconds remaining, the timer for other exfils will be reduced to match the remaining session timer. Tie goes to the Runner, after all.
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>>563606638
Yeah this is the third time you've left
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>>563604586
Look on the bright side, you made some bastards really happy last night.
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>>563606795
nah im here hating on the game not leaving lol
i wanna be here for the sub 20k days
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>>563606638
Okay, then leave this general.
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>>563606907
>2813 currently playing
it’s now
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>>563606951
>>563606795
Keep BLASTING anons!!!!!
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solo players... p-please come back... no you still can't do cryo archive without joining the 'cord but like... please...
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>>563607134
You have to think of the loot inflation bro, just ignore the premades farming compiler with zero risk.
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>>563571910
How many threads are you in just spamming their related steam charts?
In almost every general I see one of you retards.
Even in deadlock when Rivals was coming out you retards were screeching about how dead the game was and now it mogs all expectations.
Am I gonna catch you in /utg/ spamming about how Deltarune is dead because no one is playing it?
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For me it's the brrt smg
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I win
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>>563577104
i always have a boner handling the m77
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NEW IMPLANT ICONS where is the event reward shit?
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>>563554168
>thief visor highlights players
Why is this a thing at all? Free thermals?
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>>563606907
>2813 currently playing
it’s now
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>>563607380
Raped people who probably think watching YouTubers and reading Twitter counts as playing vidya instead of just playing the shit they like
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>>563607520
When the chart hits your eye, the numbers are not high
That's amory
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>>563606825
This Vandal is cute
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>>563601880
>i missed their attempt at onboarding
oh. that's great
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>>563607745
All Vandals are cute
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>>563607745
You can find more illustrations like that here if you care to.
https://x.com/PercTau42174
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>>563608018
Thank you anon
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I don't like the new implant models.
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>>563609606
I like them
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>>563609606
All of the gear models are useless besides ammo
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>>563609606
I like that there's clarity between type, but they don't look particularly finished. Also still no indicator of the type/perk.
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>>563609606
Do they have the new shape in raid?
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>>563609606
those look terrible
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>>563609606
>graphic design is my passion :)
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>>563609606
>unfinished EA tier icons
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAH
oh theyre desperate
>>
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>>563610587
I'd buy this
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Contract rerolls didn't reset for me so gotta wait another 7 days to get rid of these garbage contracts.

Other people are reporting that all of their prio contracts reset entirely. Lmao.

SMALL
INDIE
COMPANY
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Sound seems better
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>>563611318
In which way? Better sound distances/propagation? Not everything you do making massive KTHUNK noises? Did they disable the EDM when you open up key doors?
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>>563611589
Seems crisper, they mentioned they changed some footstep stuff for short range
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>>563612107
I've yet to play since the patch so I'll have to see for myself.
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They broke showing if attachments in the shop are compatible with currently equipped guns, awesome
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i hope this game gets sbmm. my aim is too trash most of the time. maybe i need to adjust my sens and practice
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>>563611170
i got three "new" prio contracts and i am literally too stoned to remember if i already did them or i'd just been leaving them there...
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can i start over if i use a steam alt with family sharing or not?
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>>563612950
they are new
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>>563609606
not only does that look like utter shit but this doesn't even fix the actual issue that you have to hover over a torso mod to see whether it's knife fight or survival kit. Who the fuck was complaining that they couldn't tell the difference between a head mod and a leg mod?
>leg mods used to be yellow
>reuse the yellow color, but for torso mods
everything about this is ass
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>>563612906
Beyond SBMM, it couldn’t hurt to try and copy what Arc does with Aggression Based Matchmaking. That way the more PvP happy players get lumped together with themselves in their own self contained rape dungeon.

>>563609606
At least it’s one easy way to tell that they’re new. Circle ones also make it look closer to that one music track Assassin was attached to in the reveal trailer.
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They need to bump up the solo exp gains by a lot , genuinely crazy that a solo is maybe at most in the mid 70s right now but trios are on their way to level 150 or already over level 200.
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>>563613267
>Circle ones also make it look closer to that one music track Assassin was attached to in the reveal trailer.
Anon, queue in as Rook right now and drop an implant. They are huge bricks. You could kill someone with those things.
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anyone have a friendly encounter yet?
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>>563613979
I've had an unfriendly encounter in Hauler with a freekitter, that's about it.
Haven't met anyone on 2nd run.
They want you to be friendly now though it seems. Arachne still exists, so I dunno. I can't be bothered to hook up a mic to shout "Friendly!" or even use the command.
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>>563613979
Relatively speaking.
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>>563614325
it'll take time i guess
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>>563613425
Everything is a huge brick in-game so you can see where shit gets dropped.
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Still no matchmaking?
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>Removed all Deluxe rarity thermal optics across all weapon archetypes from the loot tables and they can no longer drop.
based
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>>563614509
what does he get out of that shouldn't you try to exfil together?
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>Until Season 1 ends, new players will get a 15% boost to reputation earned for CyberAcme and NuCaloric for their first five ranks.
wow so generous
there's SOME good changes in the patch but holy fuck this company is retarded through and through
has anyone turned in the new carri currency to see if it actually gives anything worthwhile? or is it a 10% chance for blue salvage kind of deal
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>>563613015
hello?
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>>563614687
hey :)
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>>563614671
You can convert it into rep for any faction, superior keys and blue salvage, so definitely worth it on those fronts atleast.
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>>563613979
Ran into a guy with only his knife out in the middle of Dire Marsh. He backed up around a wall as I went to shoot, and started spamming a voice command that I could barely hear. Equipped my knife and tea-bagged, he tea-bagged back. Then we just ran past each other.
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Cyac VIP rank 20 reward was....a green bag and some credits? Did they nerf VIP rewards due to CARRI?
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>>563614671
the rewards are pretty good you can see them in the armory
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guys why is the playercount so low today
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>>563613267
I don't see why ABMM would be a big deal, the game is still designed in a way where there is only so much loot on a map. You'll still need to fight over pinwheel if you actually want mats for instance. Seems like a no brainer to bump player retention
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>>563614671
Here's what you can get currently.
LMG costs 5.
Mods are Exit Buddy, killing an enemy gives movespeed.
And you can exchange 25 for 500 rep of any faction.
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>>563615094
>random type and tier of salvage
>limit 3
lmao bravo bungie. 1 step forward and 2 steps back
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>>563602893
>Destroyer nerf
>more heat per thrust, fuck you if you fat finger your shield or situation changes where you don't need it right then and there
I hate you so much, Bungo. Now Thief shits on everyone as the defacto class. Superior mobility, target acquisition and harassment.
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Destroyerchuds... not like this...
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Raped status?
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>>563616135
The
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>hear gunfight near station less than a minute after spawning
>scoop on over
>one guy gets downed
>down the other one
>another one downs me couple seconds later
Well, that was interesting to say the least
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the vandal buff is pretty nice i use my ult more now cuz i'm not terrified of burning it
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Actually spectating co-op PVE in solo, three people taking down the Warden on Perimeter.
Game is back!
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Looks like Bungie saved itself with this patch. The first time since the game has launched it gets a WoW increase. Crazy stuff.
Plus, tomorrow has the new experimental BR mode! They’re cooking
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I'm killing anyone who's cooping or exfilling. No compromise.
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>>563617568
What does that mean
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>>563617731
no extra commendations for u
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>>563617737
idk, hopefully game will become friendlier from now on.
>>563617731
But guess not...
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tried to make a friend, didn't work, will try again later
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>>563617829
Bungie can't fix me.
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>download game for this update
>have to use sponsor kit for Analcne skins
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>mid day on a Monday
>about to break it's 24hr average
Marabros.... are we back?
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>>563618334
STOP THE COUNT
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>>563618334
We're freakin back
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We're so back
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Chuds, did we get too cocky?
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>>563617634
>>563618334
total chud and destiny cuck death, mass suicide soon when it breaks its own peak with s2
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>you can buy signal jammers now
TOTAL SNIPER DEATH

https://x.com/i/status/2044111452454453580
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>>563618334
noooooooOOOOOOOO
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The guy that changed armory to amory must want to kill himself right now lmao
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>>563619006
Big league
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>>563548627
W
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>maratroons when they get a few thousand more players to staunch the bleeding for a day or two
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>>563614325
oh shit you can do 14 rook exfills = one purple key
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>down someone
>use mercy kit
>down them again for 2x XP

LMAOOOOOOOOOO
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Why is there only 3x stock for the mercy kit? They really don't want you using these things
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>>563621575
kek based
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>Problem
Thermals too oppressive on long-range weapons
>Solution
Remove them as an option from long-range weapons
>What Bungie did
Gave a slight nerf to distance amd made every fight revolve around signal jammer

How the fuck do they manage to make shit WORSE?
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>>563549440
Welcome to modern Bungie, we tried to warn you, they're lethargic devs.
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>players complain game is hard so it's bad
>feel the urge to play and be good at it
>remaining players are happy with update and are excited
>I don't wanna play it anymore
I really don't like seeing people happy
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>>563605314
>>563604467
>>563603047
You arent' serious are you? This is like some toilet paper spark leaves so the noobs can wipe their asses with.
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>>563568059
1.8% is more than what i expected desu
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Amazing spawns Bungie, as always.

>>563613979
I haven't played since Apr 5th until today but in the 5-6 matches I've played, in 2 of those I had someone ask me to cover them to underneath South Relay to do his cache quest, and another dude asked to chill because he was just doing a kill x enemies with a volt weapon quest.
Small sample size but out of the ordinary compared to what it was like when I was playing the game daily.
Average PvP encounter is still KOS though (as it should be)
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Okay this fucks.
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>>563624397
>Yet another recolor
BORING
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>>563624476
The decals are really nice tho
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>>563624397
this one looks like a dreamworks wh40k crossover
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anons, if someone killed you right now on north relay and you were about to exfil, it was me, sorry but i wont risk getting killed after retrying this contract for the 7th time
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Why did Peanut abandon us for Last Flag?
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What weapon does the Arachne sponsored kit give you
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>>563625012
retaliator lmg
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>>563624397
Looks like he's smiling with a distended gigachad jaw
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>play like 6 runs in a premade
>only in one of those i managed to do my quest
>able to kill at least one team per run or run away
>team got a key from those you need to exfil on a run
>do a run with the key, instantly killed and rushed by a team, no loot
>outpost wipe

So basically we are all worse off than when we started...the only the only progress was my quest...
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Just nutted to buff recon. Jacking off to trans shells is not gay.
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>>563625124
MIDAGODS stay winning
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>>563624946
sponsored stream
he's actually abandoned us for Rust
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>>563624876
i got killed right before exfil two times before turning the game off last
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>queue in to do the traxus quest to scan the anomaly
>anomaly goes into lockdown
lol... hahaha....
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i got these stickers because i'm special.
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>>563546445
no sale for mid season update? should i keep waiting or just buy now?
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>>563626392
hold until f2p
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Totally flubbed an ambush so bad I just ran away
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>Load up in a full purple kit
>Get matched with free kits that disconnect as soon as they die
Cool cool cool.
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>>563626392
they can't afford to do a sale right now
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>>563626850
yea, but keys are at 30 eur, while on steam the game costs 40. only bad thing is that you lose your right to refund if you do get it through a key.
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It's not about loot or quests, it's about you, you're the reward
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>>563627321
re add highfive
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>>563627321
-1 playercount
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Imagine being cucked enough to subject yourself to this

https://x.com/LemurFTW/status/2044166341100482573
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>>563627321
>net negative inventory value
>less CARRI commendations
>no time to loot
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>>563627749
he did his contract tho
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>>563627818
>defeat runners without dying: 1/7
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>>563628054
well he worked toward it
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>>563627667
i just want to touch gold for the miku skin and then never touch it ever again
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>>563628225
That was my goal as well but I got raped n gaped like 5 times in Bronze III and I just wasn't going to subject myself to that.
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so is bungie going to give me a reason to spend money in the skin store? all these skins are ass and too expensive
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Vandals are too good
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>>563628953
i wish i could buy some fucking credits cause i die too much
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>>563628953
They're just banking on people that have no clue what Destiny's cosmetic situation is like, because there the paid cosmetics can go on sale, can be purchased with bright dust (free currency), and offer more for less.
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>>563630432
i’ve been testing the waters with “gay” and “retarded”
nothing has happened yet
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I still don't believe this is Bungie that worked on this game, just on the basis that they're actually addressing pain points in a comparatively timely manner. Getting a patch like this in D2 would have taken months.
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>>563630623
they probably have to somehow turn this sinking ship around or they will go down with it
have you seen the job market lately?
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>>563630623
that's the zeigler factor
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wtf is going on with this damn site rn
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so, did firing barret and replacing him with ziegler save or ruin the game?
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>>563631071
>one year since the hack last year that took down the site
>this shit starts happening
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>>563631168
Raped it. Barrett is a genius
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Okay but can I just have the checkbox ONLY ACCEPT LOW PING SERVER when I'm about to go in with a really expensive kit? Kinda makes the game unplayable late at night when I will randomly put on NA server.
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>Have over 100 hours
>Completed Cryo and Outpost pinwheel several times
>Still never seen a channel rifle
Why are all but 6 guns impossible to find? Bungo should increase weapon drop rate by a fuckton.
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>>563631071
what are you talking about?
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>>563631380
i want a checkbox that requires everyone to use a mic to communicate when i use a full loadout
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just had a clean solo ranked game, went from overflow, looted an empty hauler somehow and early exfilled in north relay, both exfils were in NR
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>>563631469
shit is really slow to post right now and all around acting funky. tried desktop and mobile
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ez 25k, life is sweet
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Why do I keep playing this game and how do I actually quit for real? It's not fun to me but I'm on sunk cost with time.
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>>563631889
just one more run anon
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Triage's only gold core is so bad lol, this should be a blue at most.
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Can't wait to farm Reddit commendations in this new patch. There are gonna be so many clippable moments
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>>563632076
Can I get real advice? I wanna quit and leave this game behind. The meager kills dont excuse this
>lvl 60
>1k credits
>lost all armor and guns again
>cant even buy blue shields
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>>563631168
Its still too early to say right now. At least now it feels easy to bounce back from a total rape though.
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>>563632390
play rook

>>563631168
ruined for sure.
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>>563631425
it's so the loot pool can "refresh" next wipe like a br game
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>>563630432
you can't even report other players other than your teammates. so if you're in solo being a faggot i guess your safe. afaik you can't see enemy names unless you kill them or they kill you so you can't even check the recently played with list either.
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>>563630432
Only if someone clips it and tweets it at a dev.
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>>563632871
when i play rook i cant exfil or find any gear cause i suck. do you have any ideas for advice?
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Chud tassi status?
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>>563631889
quitting a game is easy, just delete it and go do other things forever. keeping on with it is hard
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>>563633441
Winning
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>>563633579
Oof
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What's the usecase for V66 lookout? Scar is just better, more dps and homing projectiles and still respectable range.
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What stat even impacts volt weapon overheat? Anything?
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Could be the first time a weekday goes over the weekend high from the previous week
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Just had a heckin chungus friendly exfil
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>>563634817
Who gives a fuck, except actual retards
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>>563635163
Chud melty
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>>563634817
>he had hope
HAHAHAHAHA! No it won't.
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You basically get unlimited blue backpacks with commendations
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>>563635407
Maybe tomorrow...word of mouth spreading like wildfire, can't be stopped
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>>563566306
It's the lack of gear customisation for me. I like being able to pick up a grimy helmet and wear it in other extraction shooters, I also like the eating animations and the limb damage system.

I wish they'd add those things...
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>>563609606
Is that GODren?
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>>563628953
I bought the Recon one. It looks the best out of all of them
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>>563635408
>You basically get unlimited blue backpacks with commendations
Unlimited everything with runners kills. Gear doesn't matter
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I think the update made it worse. Every match is sweatiest sweats farming the one one team on free kits.
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Marathoneers, we are UP
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26 big ones
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>>563635567
>Eating and healing autism
That shit is lame though and only exists to shit up your inventory
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>>563636537
wait until the people that return have 3 rounds of getting mogged by gold trios
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Ok it's the first time a tuesday beat the preceding sunday, not too shabbs
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>10 minutes between posts
this game is dead lmao
at least it lasted a month
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Sorry to that one Recon dude on Perimeter I killed, but I came off a string of really bad losses tonight and I need to complete my Arachne contract.
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anywhere selling cheap keys?
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>>563637684
posting is fucked across the entire site retard
it
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>>563566306
The main problem for me is just how clean the enviroments are. I understand they're going for the striking clean visuals and the place is definitely abandoned (obviously there's no one around) but it doesn't look and feel like a colony that's been radio silent for almost 100 years. There needs to be more garbage or evidence of the UESC setting up shop and blockading the planet. I know the UESC lore wise are doing a double cover up (initial colony were doing a coverup and the UESC we're fighting are the reinforcements doing a cover up of the cover up) but there should be more apparent evidence of "things have gone terribly wrong". Like scars that can't be properly hidden.

Qurantine is a good example of a place that feels immersive. The place is dripping with the feeling of something bad happening there, even if you haven't read the codex entries or looked too deeply into things. They just struggle to replicate that frequently, and I suppose it's hard cause you can't make something like maintenance a horror show because like...It's just a big hanger bay and shed at the end of the day.
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>>563546445
did the midseason patch make the game better for solos, is it worth getting as a purely solo player?
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>>563637251
desu even if I'm getting pubstomped I don't feel half as bad since progression is so fast now
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>>563638154
>added depleted self-revive kits in solos
>added mercy kits to revive downed enemy players and rooks start with one
>event going on right now where you get bonus commendations to use in the armory for exfiling with other runners in solo
>faster xp gain
i'd say so
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>>563631168
Definite rape. There's no clue if barret could have actually stuck his vision within a reasonable budget, but losing him, and more importantly, picking the Metoo crowd that's even more bloated and slow than peak D2 era Bungie.

>>563632594
Zeigler's an idiot who got the focus he wanted, but was so out of touch with actual fucking players that it's still on track to be one of the worst financial performances ever. If there's going to be any kind of success from this game, it will look nothing like the game at launch.

>>563638154
>is it worth getting as a purely solo player?
Absolutely not. You're still locked out of the best map.
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WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SWEATS ON PERIMETER AND DIRE MARSH IM JUST TRYING TO DO PRIO QUESTS
>>563638154
>>563638367
Wait that explains it, usual fills are playing solo while tryhards are swarming trio lobbies. Man fuck this game
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>>563638431
have they said anything about adding solo to the last map?
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>>563630432
i prox chat "kill yourself faggot" (or retard) regularly and nothing yet
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>>563614325
>add the communications wheele "Code" from Metal Gear Online
>now we can finally coordinate without shouting STOP STOP STOP into the microphone
There, I saved the CARRI system.
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>>563638568
I think they're looking at it
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>>563638431
>If there's going to be any kind of success from this game, it will look nothing like the game at launch.
Frankly I would welcome that. I still think Marathon 2026 has a cool world, but I wouldn't be terribly up if they were to slowly shift their focus to something more PvE centered.
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>spawn in
>get wiped by purples with 7th Column and Pure Punishment doing nothing but PKing
>spawn in
>get wiped by purples with 7th Column and Pure Punishment doing nothing but PKing
>spawn in
>get wiped by purples with 7th Column and Pure Punishment doing nothing but PKing
This update is fucking ass what the absolute fuck did they do to the matchmaking?
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>>563613267
i'm the person you replied to about sbmm and i just had a exfil on outpost as rook where they didnt shoot at first and we all looted pinwheel together, i got rezzed twice with the new mercy kit
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So the carri shit just turns the game into arc raiders were everyone is your friend now? I thought this was a hardcore pvp extraction shooter.
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>>563639183
IT LITERALLY JSUT HAPPENED AGAIN

IT LITERALLY JUST HAPPENED AGAIN I WALK TWO STEPS IN DIRE MARSH AND NIGGER FAGGOT TRIPLE DESTROYERS WITH PURPLES AND 7TH COLMUN RUSH ME CAN THESE NIGGERS DIE I HOPE THEY UNINSTALL WHEN THEY ONLY PLAY AGAINST EACHOTHER STARTING TOMORROW
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>>563631549
Glad this wasn't on my end. Also, dammit, it's still happening.
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>>563639641
The funny thing is it didn't even work. It's just for clip farming.
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>>563639641
it's arc raiders if it was good
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>>563639641
Nah it's the exact same shit as before.
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>cloak activation noise
Not gonna work
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>>563639641
What? Not at all. There's been no fucking change lmao. Nothing has changed at best teams wanna do their contracts together but guess what? YOU CAN STILL GET FUCKED OVER JUST LIKE THAT

I once again tried being friendly with some faggot on solo and even told him, i came with a knife not even a free kit to do a quest and still got killed lmao.

I really wanna quit this game but I don't even know why I play it. I hope my astrology posting is right and this shit or Bungie die around November.
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Could the master chief beat a squad of runners?
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>>563639641
this game will never be as successful as arc raiders
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>>563639669
YOU

WILL

NEVER

GUESS

WHAT

HAPPENED

IN

THE

FIRST

30 SECONDS

OF

DIRE

MARSH

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE DESTROYER NERFS? My vault is down 30k in one session and I don't even get to play the game? It has literally NEVER been this bad until the update, at most I used to have two bad runs in a row, but the fact it has been EVERY SINGLE MATCH tonight I hope Ziegler mangles his body in a car wreck immediately.
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christ. had a teammate who would constantly keep talking. going on about how he kept losing all his gear in ranked. gee, was it because you won't shut up and listen for foot steps?! i muted him when he had to check his map and announce where the freshly spawned exfils were. like dude, that's not the priority right now.
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>>563639641
No? Unlike Arc Raiders, people often have better shit on them then you can find in the world, so there's plenty incentive to kill people still.
>>563639716
I've played 5 solo games and every one had someone teaming up with another player and I've also exfilled with another player for every game. Now that there's a reason to keep people alive people are much more inclined to cooperate so they can keep their shit.

Personally I've just been doing the fire emblem strat
>Find person
>Down them
>"Join me amigo, let's keep each other safe"
>Revive with mercy kit
>Have a bodyguard for the rest of the match
For some reason downing people just mentally resets them. Guess it's like a dominance thing. Regardless CARRI is very much impacting how people play in solos.
>>563639972
The console players are the worst with that, especially when they have open mic and the mic is crammed down their throat
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>>563640086
>>Have a bodyguard for the rest of the match
I'm using sponsor kits for Aracne skins and if I see that happen, I won't be able to resist attacking them. I hate this friendly shit so much. I'll probably die but still try to jump them.
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>>563639965
>WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE DESTROYER NERFS?
I know you're fishing for outrage but destroyer has never been a problem and its irresponsible of you to spread misinformation like that.

Also its well documented that people are placed over and over in the same lobbies together. There's just not enough players to make match making diverse.
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>>563639861
He would easily rape them, yes.
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>>563639641
Not even remotely. Marathon is still a rapefest at its core, its just less frustrating and less punishing on death compared to how it was yesterday.
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>>563639119
post a quote, i'm starting to doubt
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>get on after 4 day break due to boredom
>lets just do a rook run and find others to test this event
>warden still up at 12min
>run across map to it while yelling in prox
>don't encounter a soul
>clear some nearby uesc
>ctd with no error code
>load back in, dead
amazing, a real return to form
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I'm fucking sick of all the no mic motherfuckers in this motherfucking GAME
TALK YOU IDIOTS
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Custom loadouts are now more expensive. Have to bring 2 grenades and 2 smokes, every time. For moments when two faggots go to exfil together.
>Reach the activated exfil
>Throw smoke to make them step away, or look at it
>Shoot one of them
>Throw a grenade into the smoke
>Second grenade outside of the smoke
>Shoot more and one should be knocked
>Switch weapon and get the second dude
Doable, can't get close though. Have to stay at least 35M away, so two SMGs can't shred me.
I will kill both if they team up.
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Yeah I dunno what the fuck happened to the matchmaking but I have never seen so many Cryo Archive emblems and banners in back to back to back matches. Trios is unplayable until they do starter-kit matches.
>>563640419
No, Destroyer is objectively heads and shoulders above the rest, along with Thief. Both of them need hard, real nerfs. Not "17% more heat on dash" or "can only place one claymore on drone" fuck that shit, it's oppressive as hell to always be rushed down by those two in first minute of a match.
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Blast? Had.
Hate? Forced.
Lightning? Bottled.
Form? Returned to.
Mainstream? Written all over it.
Player count? Irrelevant.
Meta? Solved.
Bungie? Raped.
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S-stable 25k...
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>>563641528
Bungie is making an AAA game for Sony's next console. Nothing's gonna happen to Bungie, until the new game flops on the next PlayStation system. So they have at least two(likely three) years till they get fucked.
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Yeah I dunno what the fuck happened to the matchmaking but I have never seen so many Cryo Archive emblems and banners in back to back to back matches. Trios is unplayable until they do starter-kit matches.
>>563640419
No, Destroyer is objectively heads and shoulders above the rest, along with Thief. Both of them need hard, real nerfs. Not "17% more heat on dash" or "can only place one claymore on drone" fuck that shit, it's oppressive as hell to always be rushed down by those two in first minute of a match.
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I wish you could make loadout presets that you can just load if you have the gear for it available. It's kinda tiring to redo your entire loadout every time you die
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>>563641517
>>563641684
what the fuck?
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>>563639830
Seeing that recoil I swear the Bully deserves to have handling like this, whereas the Overrun should handle like a Bully. Why does Bungie hate assault rifles so much?
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>>563641608
They're only allowed to make live service slop
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I don't think people should be able to buy Arachne rep with commendations. The whole premise is very anti sacred thermodynamics of violence.
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>>563641773
>Why does Bungie hate assault rifles so much?
If you have good assault rifles, it's harder to make good meme guns(precision, aka marksman rifles).
Nobody uses a single precision rifle on Warzone(there's like nine of them), because ARs are good.
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Yeah I dunno what the fuck happened to the matchmaking but I have never seen so many Cryo Archive emblems and banners in back to back to back matches. Trios is unplayable until they do starter-kit matches.
>>563640419
No, Destroyer is objectively heads and shoulders above the rest, along with Thief. Both of them need hard, real nerfs. Not "17% more heat on dash" or "can only place one claymore on drone" fuck that shit, it's oppressive as hell to always be rushed down by those two in first minute of a match.
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>>563642015
>it's oppressive as hell to always be rushed down by those two in first minute of a match.
You only needed twenty seconds to get onto a random, unexpected spot, above the ground, doesn't need to be very high. And just ambush them. Not gonna work with two retarded teammates, but 1V1 both Vandal and Destroyer are easy to knock out.
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>>563639841
>There's been no fucking change lmao
teaming is becoming meta
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The game's just not fun man. It uses the excitement of getting good loot like a carrot on a stick.

Despite having good moments, it's overall net-negative fun. For every amazing exfil, there's 10 runs where I get killed by some bullshit I didn't have time to react to. Turn a corner and two tapped by a shotgun. Try going from one POI to another and get sniped by somebody so far away they were probably about 5 pixels on my screen. And in the moment to moment I feel incredibly stressed cause I know any second someone can pop out of nowhere and kill me in less than a second.

And ultimately average skill players just end up being loot pinatas for streamers, sweats and hackers. I'm not adverse to pvp, but only when I'm generally on equal footing with my opponents. Extraction shooters inherently have unbalanced matchups, even with sbmm there would be imbalance due to the loot.
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>>563642202
Vandal yes, Destroyer is the 1v1 king. Every frame besides Thief and Destroyer are balanced fairly.
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>>563639841
> I really wanna quit this game but I don't even know why I play it

https://youtu.be/DmP5T8ASmMk
This video isn’t perfect or anything but I think it’s good enough. When I watched this I got the impression the guy who made it barely even played a marathon if at all, but I think someone who has can think of even more first hand experiences of the kind of tricks at play this guy is describing.
Neither your brain nor anyone else’s is fully evolved or equipped to deal with what technology can do it. The game is designed in such a way to throttle you between chemical highs and lows in an unhealthy way. Basically your brain, like your runner, is being raped.
As a side note I find incredibly funny, you can look at the comments on that video and see tons of people being like
>yup this feels like I’m in the casino, it’s amazing, bungie cooked!
No helping some people I suppose
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>>563642276
I've been enjoying it for a month but today feels fucking awful, absolutely no carri points because we just get swarmed immediately on every map. They flipped a switch, it was not like this for me even yesterday.
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>>563641996
It's rather that CoD atleast tries to partially adhere to realistic standards for guns, which means that AR's are just basically precision rifles on auto. You usually want the AR options to be mid-range, while you want your precision options to be mid-to-long range. Currently for AR's, there are options for all three and for precision things like Stryder, Hardline and Twin Tap work as intermediary options. Overrun's largest problem hasn't really ever been that it's bad at the optimal range, it's that Bully still tended to have some staying power in the range Overrun is at it's best.
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>>563642506
i think what they need to do is implement a pve mode that provides all the items and reputations because otherwise the game is just stupid counter strike
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>>563642276
>The game's just not fun man. It uses the excitement of getting good loot like a carrot on a stick.
Never gave a fuck about loot, love exfil killing those, who want to keep their stuff. Making someone nervous or upset, that's where the pleasure comes from.
If someone wants to exfil, I want that someone to lose.
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S-stable 25k...
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whats a better long term investment, marathon or destiny 2?
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everyone got an achromatic skin except for triage
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Reminder that freekit marsh will be objectively the best mode in the game, but streamers will bitch that their grinding doesn't give them an immediate leg up so it will get canned and will never come back.
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>>563643213
cs 1.6
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>>563643313
im not that big of a faggot
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Cheers to the freakin recon
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>>563642738
This is exactly the reason extraction shooters are conceptually flawed. And the reason your rape simulator is dying. Turns out people stop playing if all that happens is they get raped.
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>>563643234
pic might help
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i just got off work but have to go to bed cause i have another 10 hour shift tomorrow and the day after.
hows the update boys?
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>>563643429
only weak people get raped, in life and marathon
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You VIL play cs 1.6 and you VIL like it
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>>563643429
>This is exactly the reason extraction shooters are conceptually flawed.
I disagree, the shooter is fun, when you do the shooter thing. Everything else is secondary.
>>563643610
>hows the update boys?
It's not bad, you can pick up a new item to show mercy to someone, and revive them without wasting a self-rez.
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>>563643258
It'll be boring as
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>>563640991
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>Game with skill gap is bad because it's rape
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The EQ is retard mode for niggas who need to be onboarded because they can't figure out game mechanics on their own
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the amount of walling niggers is going up by the day
>usually just afk and farm keys in solo
>at least 5+ times where a nigger has randomly found me in the most obscure hiding spot in the map
holy fucking yikes man
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>>563644590
my genuine unironic advice being the rapist end: just dont don't go afk to go go your walk dog, brew your coffee, shit on the toilet and read your novel, drive your chud autistic child to school, and jerk off with the headphones off so the wife doesn't walk in on you. hope this helps!
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>>563644189
damn, that mention 25 days ago is all we got. prob aiming for season 2, if at all. meanwhile i'm stuck farming gold salvage on dire marsh
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Man how the fuck am I supposed to do command wing solo for this Traxus quest holy fuck
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>>563644189
The map barely needs any changes to accommodate solos.
Honestly, keep the amount of bots the same, you just need to bring in more ammo/meds to counter that which is a fine entry price.
The only real thing that needs changing is the compiler fight because that's the only mandatory part where you need more than 1 other person to draw the Compiler's aggro
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>>563645601
yeah maybe season 2, it's gotta be difficult, right now it would be impossible to solo cryo
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can't wait to see the stats of nobody but maybe rooks using the mercy kits.

>Get in a team fight
>teammate wants to mercy kit a guy and then kill him as a prank
>I don't even let him finish his question and just skin the guy
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I'm actually so fucking disheartened I killed three runners in pinwheel and never did command wing before so I didn't know I'd just get perpetually swarmed by bots
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>>563622440
>game is bad AND has the illusion of difficulty
>dedicated premades have solved the game from week 1 and are the ones making it hard for everyone else, but the game is easy peasy for them
>fanboys (premade warriors) are convinced the only reason anyone would dislike the game is because they are bad at it
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>gigaspike to 26k after the mid season update
I'm so proud of you marabros...
HOLD THE LINE
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>>563647896
it was hovering 23-26k already what are you on about? we got no new players out of this.
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>>563648439
>we
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>>563647896
>You know something, you know something
>If you had told us one week ago we'd be hitting 26k on a Tuesday, we would've given anything for that
>You know something, you know something
>Not only are we hitting 30k this weekend, we're hittin' 40k, and 50k, and 60k, and 70k, and 80k, and 90k, and 100k!!!
>AND WE'RE GONNA LAUNCH SEASON 2 AND TAKE BACK THE STEAM CHARTS!
>YEEAAHHHH!!!!
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How long until they touch?
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running three key templates at once. getting lazy
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>Bubbles, Self-Rez, and Thermals increase in price and are bumped up in rarity
On paper this sounds good, except the reality is the people using all of those every match with 10 more in their vault at all time arent affected. Those are also the same people with 800k+ credits minimum, while the average players reaches maybe 100k if they're frugal. These aren't nerfs, they're Reaganomics.
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>>563650506
Mid-May would be my guess
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>>563650660
Bubble shields straight up should not even be in the game
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>>563650660
It is a nerf. A nerf to poorfags.
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>>563633369
Go on sponsored kit and do priority
contracts solo, for hard contracts do them trio fill. Nucaloric gives the best rewards cuz it saves your money from being spent on heals and shields. Getting access to nucaloric heal bartering is op, you can get 3-9 shields or heals for 1 random salvage you will never use. The strongest cheap weapon is v11 punch. v11 is an S tier gun for 50 only and its ammo costs nothing. After doing quests and getting money and access to heal bartering, play trio fill outpost with v11 punch and a few heals. Learn all green card location spawns and rush the pinwheel, you should be in b4 2 mins have passed. Only do drone wing and destroyed wing as fast as possible and then look for an extract b4 rooks spawn (when timer reaches 15 minutes). dont fight any bots in outpost nor pinwheel and skip all of them. play thief for this trio fill strategy so you can quickly find the best loot with her visor.
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>freekit queue isn't for solos
lmeoooooow
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Mfw n00bs who dont have a twitch, a gaming twitter, a thousand hours on aimlabs, a dedicated squad, dont know the newest map inside and out and aren't abusing hard meta playstyles
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>>563645741
Bro what just do trios, I don’t think I had an outpost fill past the first week of the game where my team doesn’t go for pinwheel
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>surge in player count from the solo friendly update that fixes everything
We are so back
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>>563653881
im doubtful anything can save this game anymore
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>>563653881
>surge
Lmao
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>>563653983
They either have to get exceptionally lucky and hope the game somehow catches on with S2, or invest in a complete overhaul, which would be astronomically stupid considering how much they've already invested for such a dud launch.
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>>563653881
SURGING! SLAMMING! BLASTING!
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>>563654183
If they weren't stupid I would assume they are planning major pve overhauls for season 2. But considering what the ""boss"" in cryo was I don't think the talent exists for that anymore.
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>>563654542
S2 is a month and a half away, and it's likely set in stone. Plus a pve mode launching in June alongside the supposed major D2 update would interfere and they'd cannibalize each other. An overhaul would likely be S4 at the earliest
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>>563653881
>still no solo PvE scaling
>still no solo cryo
meh. opened up the game the check the skins, and then closed the game.
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>>563654183
I'm unsure of why people don't WANT to play it in the first place. The launch was horrific. There was a free server slam for people to try it (and it still pulled less numbers than Arc Raiders' launch), a lot of Twitch ads from the biggest streamers, and still only 88k? player peak at launch. It seems that people simply don't care about it for one reason or another, most likely the simplest answer of "It just looks bad" or "There are more interesting games". It's not the retarded "it's not fun for casuals" argument, they genuinely never even bothered with the game. My friends that tried it simply left after less than 5 games, despite us winning. They just didn't find it interesting compared to other games, or didn't want to bother with yet another grind after learning of the contracts, the sponsors and the upgrade trees.
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>>563655512
>unsure of why people don't WANT to play it in the first place
Some games just don't catch on. And it has the same elements from games we've seen a million times (team-based FPS with hero characters and skins). It has no other hook besides the aesthetic, which I think was a bigger turn-off than most people think. Super anecdotal but my dad played D2 quite a lot from launch till Witch Queen, and when I showed him the Marathon trailers, he thought it looked ridiculous. Then I explained what an extraction shooter was and he was completely out.
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>>563653881
The surge won't even carry over today, watch
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>tell friend to try game and join us as third since new update fixes some complaints
>"hold on let me check steam charts"
>starts comparing to arc raiders
I'd like to think he was just tryna be funny but holy shit.
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>>563657268
Based chartchad.
Crazy that bungie released this game with 2 game modes and decided to paywall the shit one (extraction) while making the actually fun one (chart watching) free to play.
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>>563657268
People are absolutely buck broken about charts these days, I would imagine they're in the same cohort that watches streamers play games instead of playing games themselves, which is equally as cucked.
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>>563657956
it's a live fucking service slop - steam charts are important to determine whether matchmaking will be ass or not and whether it's worth investing any time into it before it gets rug pulled. fucking retards, it's not a game you own to play whenever
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>>563657268
Mentally broken by companies into becoming a little zealot for the one live-service game they spend all their free time on.
People who actively care about charts on a day to day basis are truly The Raped.
Unless the charts for a multiplayer-only game are at 1k or less, anything higher is still playable.
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>farming rep for sekiguchi
>just want to play thief
>keep getting the "kill hostiles with your abilities" contract
I want to dunk this worm in milk and throw her against a wall
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anyone found any alien alloy outside of cryo? i'm only getting hazard capsules and synapse cubes from the anomaly
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My chatbox hangs around for ages after using /clear
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Being hidden behind a wall but not realising a part of you is somehow sticking out and is abundantly clear to someone and dying cause of it sucks so bad. Just lost a relatively nice kit from it and it blows
>>563659171
I still don't know how people are even getting prestige salvage. I've done like 10+ lockdowns, gotten crap tons of warden kills, been in 15+ purple rooms, exfilled 5 times in cryo and been in a vault twice and still haven't found a single prestige salvage.
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>>563651190
yeah imo they should dump it but if they absolutely have to have it for the """high elo clippable plays""", they should just make it last like 10 seconds like in halo 3, theres no reason it needs to instantly make any fight shotgun optimal range and also last basically forever. if it just had a short timer itd still be an annoying stall but not an auto "you lose this fight if you dont win a wstr 50/50 or turn around and leave" button
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>>563658386
you wouldn't do that..
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>>563657268
Based chart checker.
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>>563657268
I woud have done the same if some faggot wanted me to pay 40 bucks for robo trannies in outer space(Extraction edition).

You friend is smarter than you.
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>>563657268
"sigma" zoomers need things to be popular in order to enjoy them, you see
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>>563642308
>Every frame besides Thief and Destroyer are balanced fairly.
A mother fucking AssAssin typed this post. Shut the fuck up.
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>>563659316
i've only ever found prestige salvage from the anomaly, 3 hazard capsules and 4 or 5 synapse cubes. like you i've never found any from the wardens, purple keys, lockdowns or anything else. no prestige keys though, i understand those rooms normally have 1 or 2 prestige salvage.
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>>563659941
>thinks 40 bucks is much
>constantly harps on about trannies
Should be fixing your life instead of shitposting online about a game you don't play lmao
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Good morning Marathon Gamers! (derogatory)
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>>563660415
40 bucks is much.
I like traps, but trannies are just delusional psychos, they belong in a ward.

I played the game for 80 hours.
Most of it for sunk cost fallacy.
If this shit was free, i woud have stopped playing after the first 5 hours.
Its just not fun, i want it to fail, and i want my refund.
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>>563660014
Not true, but we thrieve on intrensic motivation.
We coudnt be arsed to do shit some fucker(or friends, fuck flavour of the month) appoints us to.
And if i have to pay so we can play a shitty game only you enjoy, im out.

And dont forget, most zoomers atleast witnnesed one of their games go EoS, so they calculate before investing in a product they might not be able to use in the near future.

Tldr, zoomers dont fall for low effort scams, and we dont give a fuck about trends if youre not part of the modern normoid audience.
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>>563661156
based
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I played 6 runs tonight and I swear people were cheating in 3 of them.

One in dire marsh, guy hitting strange ass snipes from weird angles while I was crouched under Intersection.
Ranked with teams of 6 converging on POIs in Perimeter.
Two teams converging on us in Flight Control key room, 8 minutes into the match.

Not even gonna start on Cryo and Pinwheel.
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>last post 30 mins ago
dead game
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alright I spent 30 bucks to get raped because a friend got a rape coupon from humble bundle and roped me in
what should I really know? I played the tutorial match then a real match and exfiled. I like Thief and John Marathon the most from design so I'm probably just gonna play them for now but I know Rook is its own thing and all that
What should I be aware of, gameplay tips etc
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I mean we know why the game doesn’t have a replay system, why spectates dont shift to the player that killed you and why ranked has no spectate after you’ve wiped.

Some cheaters have speculated that there is literally 0 anticheat, that it’s not worth running anything on the servers as it costs money and you’ll never completely one up them either.
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>>563663626
you've seen the best there is, uninstall
>what a strange game
>the only winning move is not to play
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This update made the game so much worse. No one fucking cares about carri. No one tries to do anything as group. Fuck all you pieces of shit who down me and don't even loot me.
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>>563664169
but /mg/ said it saved the game? wtf?
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>>563664169
I have no idea what Carri is. I read the patch notes, I don’t get where the tokens come from or what you have to do or how you know other teams have shared contracts.

Can you do an Arachne contract, kill half of your team and another team, extract with those other members and get points?

I have zero idea what this system is.
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>>563658386
grinding seki contracts has been so miserable. Did the entire priority contract questline and only got to level 18 faction rank since I was solo. Been doing almost exclusively their repeatable contracts for 2 weeks and it's just non stop
>go to perimeter or outpost and exfil with circuits
>be loud as fuck killing UESC and get yourself inevitably killed
>take up your entire backpack space with cores and implants and kill uesc in one run and exfil
>play vandal because every other shell is bugged and you can't do the "kill uesc with abilities" missions with them consistently
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>>563664604
There's literally a message in your inbox explaining it but basically
>when you complete other crewmates contracts or play solo and complete your contract you get commendations
>when you exfil with someone NOT from your crew (solo, as a rook or with another enemy team) you get a commendation
Commendations are an item that you can exchange with CyberAcme to get some shit like salvage packs, reputation packs, key templates, backpacks and there's gonna be some stuff that updates and changes everyday.
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How long until the new queue? Also, holy fuck, what's going on with 4chan? My captcha expires before the post goes through.
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I don't think commendations are actually going to encourage full cooperation, but rather they're there as an incentive for people to not fight over an exfil or discourage dick-ass rogue from finishing you 2 seconds before exit (still not guaranteed).
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>>563664983
I was wondering about that, been fucked since yesterday
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>>563665258
there needs to be a uesc flying bot that fucks with snipers that snipe across the map. make it hard to kill and make loud noises to blow your cover
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>>563663626
Read the thread, get out while you can.

Escape will make you god
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Damn the stryder is deceptively solid for such a dinky looking gun that uses light ammo
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Me & my bros are LOVIN' the update!
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>>563665762
All the DMRs are good. Hardline needs the most help but once it has attachments it's actually quite the workhorse. Lookout remains my fav though, you just demolish shields with it and it has basically no recoil. Slap a scope on one and you have a weapon to challenge snipers.
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>>563664604
Peak retard alert

You're supposed to be friendly now, it's better for you to do so. Exfil with others will make you god.


I've been on 8 matches and zero carri minded people. This game couldn't be more stupid with how it conditions people into being lobby murderers.
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Got into pinwheel a second time and got into command wing again solo, got creamed by bots again. To be fair I was freekitting and still had white shields but I thought maybe I could cheese it.
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>>563651190
Big agree. It has no weakness.
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does everyone have prox chat disabled or something? I fucking hate this shit. There's no god damn way you undo a month and a half of conditioning to be a prick shitting asshole instead of friendly
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does everyone have prox chat disabled or something? I fucking hate this shit. There's no god damn way you undo a month and a half of conditioning to be a prick shitting asshole instead of friendly
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just let this general die, retards
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>>563663626
Whenever you see flares over a building, that means that building has lockboxes in it, which require a lootable/purchasable key. You can use Thief's box scanning ability to see which one has the highest rarity, but be careful because those zones are usually filled with campers.
If a player has a mic in solos and is generally willing to talk, they tend to be friendly from my experience. No reason in trying to kill them.
Its best to get upgrades for the CyberAcme, NuCaloric, and Arachne factions. CA is great for increasing your heat/sprint duration and increasing your vault space, NuCaloric gives cheap purchasable shields among other free bonuses, and Arachne gives purchasable shotguns, or even just shotguns/free LMGs when you make progress with that faction. Shotguns are useful incase you get approached by any hostile player coming at you with their rape knifes.
The UI can still be a mess, but in the Armory its worth scrolling to the very bottom to find out which items are "Priority items". That basically translates into free items that are given out once a day, which can moderately reduce the frustration you get with death.
Above all else, still keep in mind that this patch didn't exactly make the Marathon playerbase that much friendlier. This is still a rape or be raped game and 9 out of 10 encounters will still result in KOS gunfights.
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>oh no our hard-core rape game is nosediving
>lets make everyone friendly now!
Lmao bungie
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>>563665258
>hardcore extraction shooter
>sniper reticle can highlight enemy hitbox from miles away
Just give me whatever the fuck Bumgo was smoking for 7 years when they were making this dumpster fire
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>>563665258
>hardcore extraction shooter
>sniper reticle can highlight enemy hitbox from miles away
Just give me whatever the fuck Bumgo was smoking for 7 years when they were making this dumpster fire
Also captcha is fucked yet again
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I dunno about this whole friendly exfil thing, still pretty sketchy. Guess it makes sense to down other person if you have a lot to lose, but it also seemed like he was going for a finisher, eh.
Also, think I'm never going to Outpost again, I'll get my drone nodes from those flying drones on Perimeter instead.
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>>563668468
>tomboy redditor almost cucks himself out of commendations
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So does everyone have prox chat disabled or something? I fucking hate this shit. There's no god damn way you undo a month and a half of conditioning to be a prick shitting asshole instead of friendly.
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>>563668468
>Guess it makes sense to down other person if you have a lot to lose
I've done that in the past.
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Fuck this game

I seriously hope it dies

Update fixed jack and shit with the game
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30k would be nice today
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>>563638568
No. They haven't promised shit, but I expect them to include someday, unless they get shut down. Solos was a last second change and it shows. And I'm not sure they fundamentally can fix the problem with balance without fucking up trios.
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>>563669528
lol
not even lmao
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>>563669528
Chance would be a fine thing
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i have like 300h in the game now and the painful realization is sinking in that this is another one of those games that is intentionally designed so good players cant get ahead too much. mechanical skill is far less important than LE POSITIONING and decision making.
you can always die to rats or rats with claymores.
you can always get faggotbitchstr'd.
you can always completely nullify the advantage one team had over you by throwing bubbles and holding the bubbles with faggot shotguns.
you can always just run to a high ground and camp.
you can camp and win a match by doing nothing for 20 minutes.
you can win a fight because they couldnt see you (thanks visibility)
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>>563669693
>retard needs 300hrs to realize the extraction shooter isn't just tdm
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>>563667903
Thanks brother, yeah I was looking through and it seemed like NuCaloric and shields were gonna be pretty important from what I've seen lurking.
Any particular standouts in ARs and Precision Rifles? I understand ARs are kinda mid overall from what people say but I like the feel of them anyways
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>>563669693
>why isn't this game like COD??
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>>563663626
Always prioritize salvage = faction upgrade materials. Gear is temporary, upgrades are permanent (for this season)



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