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Urban Predator Edition

>News
Black Cat character reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn7a5F9oJwo

Dev vision vol 16: https://youtu.be/Z6JC-ciabRg

Balance Notes: https://x.com/marvelrivals/status/2044143818870550725

White Fox Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/esb1CBW2WK8

Lower Manhattan Map Reveal: https://youtu.be/ChBE64P3Ams

Hospitality 101 Event: https://x.com/i/status/2041591841058124198

Version 20260326 Balance Post: https://www.marvelrivals.com/balancepost/20260325/41667_1292877.html

Dual Life of Peter Parker event: https://x.com/i/status/2034336534070272258

>Store
Black Cat's Urban Predator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rbalW0qYaQ

Iron Fist’s Lin Shao: The Knockout and Jeff The Landshark’s Maid to Chomp skins: https://x.com/i/status/2041169240045097174

Cloak & Dagger's Daring Duo and Captain America's Brett Hendrick: The Star skins: https://x.com/i/status/2036118339370586501

Punisher's Marauder Marksman: https://x.com/i/status/2033996794342838398

Ultron's Odinforce Ultron skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033981697981546574

White Fox's Yoon Ji-woo: The Leader skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033966601918181456

The Thing's Fear Itself and Daredevil's Born Again Season 2 skins: https://x.com/i/status/2031407298669666551

Psylocke's Once-Captive Corsair & Captain America's Cursed Captain skins: https://x.com/i/status/2029738798007886162

>Links
Hero Hot List: https://marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/
Guides & News: https://marvelrivals.gg/
Tracker Resources: https://rivalstracker.com
Mobalytics Page: https://mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivals
FANDOM Wiki: https://marvelrivals.fandom.com/

Previously on /mrg/: >>563410538
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>>563625197
their team-up will be something lewd?
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Messed up,
real previous thread!
>>563556883
>>563556883
>>563556883
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Wife Soon™
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Saying Emma's ult is bad is the same as saying Moon Knight's ult is bad
It's one of the best ways to out yourself as a complete shitter
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More flank lunas incoming
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>>563624860
idk if it matches based on stats per se. i have not noticed that. i think they just give you more rank points based on whether you are performing better/worse vs the average player on that hero (same metric as ace status), and then multiplying your rank change based on that. so naturally that means that one-tricks get boosted beyond where they should be, versatility players get shafted a little bit, and tank players suffer the most because your ace as a tank is most dependent on how well your team is doing (so you may as well switch off of tank in a losing game and try to pad your stats). not to mention that the whole idea of "ace" is flawed to begin with, because stats don't win games, winning games wins games, and there's no real way to measure that by someone's actions without extremely involving machine learning or some shit like that

i suspect they are falling in all the same pitfalls as most other competitive game devs where they hear complaints about the matchmaking, so they try to overengineer the metrics and matching principles to to the point that the players' chances of winning individual matches deviate more and more from the players' ranks. if anything, they should be removing as many of the other matching principles so that rank points are divvied up correctly and players reach their true ranks as quickly as possible. that's what actually creates balanced matches in the long run, not fudging the rank gains for players because "buh buh my kd"

the only thing they SHOULD have done to improve matchmaking (imo) was introducing behavior score like dota, and basically using that as the other rating to match players with. basically, if you throw or grief so much that no one likes playing with you, then you get to play with others like you.
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>>563625584
i think this is actually a good change. the next step is removing the heal from her m1 entirely and making her shift spell a toggle with limited duration, so that you can play her as like an adam but korean
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Peni will keep getting buffs until she rapes everyone
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>No Rocket changes
>again
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>>563625786
You pedos have the worst fetishes.
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>>563625884
Still waiting for Zhiyong to reverse the speed nerf
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why is chudcros back on the card?
I thought he was blacklisted for chuddy behavior
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Never shouldve nerfed Jeff
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>>563625584
Except Hela can do it all the time and Luna just briefly. And if someone tried to tell me before this patch "the only difference between Luna and Hela is 2 damage" I'd fucking laugh at them.
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>>563625786
god i wish she could get out of sp//dr and do that to me ingame
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these niggas on Twitter are not happy that Black Cat got such an overloaded kit. they are demanding reworks for older heroes now.
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>>>563622836
Dps in Overwatch is for people who love cuckcold . Hardly a good example
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>>563625786
This but with Magik, or punk rock Hela...
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>>563626096
huh? what stops luna from pressing her m1 on enemies all the time
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>>563624064
>we’ll never get the kino that is this Nick ever again
Tragic
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>>563626045
Jay3 > Ashlyne
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>>563625884
One of the biggest victims of Season 0 Syndrome. If he was released today he'd be kitted out with gadgets out the ass.

Instead he's a healbot.

>>563626207
It's about time. When you compare even Season 1 heroes like Invis to the beta heroes it's ridiculous.

>S0: "Uh well Wolverine's power is healing but it'd be too broken to just have a character with constant passive healing right? How about he gets extra lifebar once every two minutes on a cooldown?"
>S1: "Uh well Invisible Woman's power is turning invisible let's have her be able to do it at will all the time in multiple forms and she gets passive healing from it at the same time."

If Invis was designed with S0 logic she'd be able to turn invisible once every two minutes no passive healing. Instead they started making characters more authentic to their actual powers more or less and not just filling Hero Shooter roles.
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>>563626165
>>563625786
We demand Peni sex and we demand it now
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Pretty woman
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This morning I was playing a really close game and our OTP Jeff crashed out and alt-f4d because like 3 people including myself were telling him to swap to Rocket when he was dying nonstop to Hulk, Spider-Man, and Black Panther.
He even tried to swap to Cloak & Dagger like 30 seconds before the match ended. Our Star lord was so upset because he got 32 finals and still lost the match.

Even the favela niggers on League of Legends aren't this retarded.
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>>563626646
Man, Peter is so lucky
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>>563626462
Hes never had a good teamup as well
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Rogue has the worst ult in the game and I'm tired of pretending that isn't the case.

She is a tank but her ult doesn't enable any of her teammates, it doesn't protect her, and 99% of the time its useless because she gets her ult too slowly so you'd only ever be using it on enemies that have already spent their ult.

Its weaker than DDs ult, why doesn't her ult reduce or remove her cooldowns???
Rogue needs so much fucking help.
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>Your Main
>Favorite Skin
>Favorite Ability

For comic book readers:
>The best run/storyline your main has been in
>The way your favorite ability has been utilized
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It is so funny to me that they INSTANTLY look at manual reports of VC toxicity, but they won't ban people who legitimately proclaim they're going to throw in text chat and proceed to literally throw ingame.
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>>563626839
Since she says "I'll take everything", her ult should unironically give her charge for the next ult, depending on much ult charge she took from enemies
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>>563626207
Oh my fucking god who the fuck caaaaaaaaares??? Every day with you people is reddit said this, discord is saying this, twitter said this, blah blah fucking blah holy shit nobody gives a fuck. If I wanted twitters opinion, I'd be on twitter. Can you not have an original goddam thought? It always has to be couched with someone else saying it as justification? Goddam I'm so tired of it.
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>>563626839
most vanguard ults are kinda trash
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>>563626674
>charms wall
>ults into nobody
>gets shreked


These the "people" crying about too much CC in the game
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>>563626646
>Open the round with a Strange portal
> Straight to the objective
>Big fight
>Save all my Fortune
>Get wiped
>Buy 10 portals straight to the objective again
>Cap point
Thanks Guangguang
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>>563626948
>inb4 "uh oh melty"
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>>563626937
Crazy good idea
>>563626839
I dont want shulkie or marvel to be tanks now, its the least thought out role in the game.
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>>563627039
We ended up winning that game because I hardcarried that game on groot but im pretty certain if that fucking retard was playing against sweatier opponents than he would have gotten folded and still blamed everyone else for the loss
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>>563627071
Your portals only work on a single wall. Plenty of starting points don't have any viable use for it.
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>>563626646
Guess her panty's color.
She climbs wall , you will be able to see it right?
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Holy Ultron has a real support ult now that also kills people
He's going to be busted as fuck this season, between that and him seeing use in pro play people will finally notice he's good and he'll get nerfed in S8, screenshot this
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>haven't played for most of the season
>jump back into ranked now
>it's all controller players on PC playing only melee characters
I'm going to SHIT
it's literally all melee besides me and whenever I spectate it's controller inputs
besides how shit it feels to play almost any shooter with controller, why do it on PC ranked?
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>>563627183
I really don't see Capt Marvel as some 200+ HP squishy duelist, even with bonus health. Like if I ever see her get 2-3 tapped by Punisher's shotgun the only reaction Ill have is ," What a shitty version of Capt Marvel".
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>>563627410
how many skins is ultron about to get lol
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>>563627503
I do
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>>563627335
black, but they'll be diapers/boyshorts
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>>563627463
It’s rewarding and challenging and high test people like those things. Pretty simple.
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>>563627280
Don't worry. The Black Cat rollout videos will come by next week.
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>>563627503
Tanks get 2-3 tapped by Punisher shotgun too
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>>563626045
Were any of the Vibes Controversy players ever invited to one of these preview showcases
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>>563627503
my sweet sweet summer child...DD and elsa are some of the healthiest picks in the game
give carol a dash that gives her overshield and make it 2 Secs, she heals on every shot and give her a ult thats uninterruptible ...I rather that than
>tank who cant handle tank dps coming towards them like rogue
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Emptying my wallet for mommy Felicia!!!
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>>563626045
>Eskay
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>>563626909
She hulk
Don’t know yet
Don’t know yet
John byrne’s run
Don’t know yet
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>>563627736
Its sad the only thing that makes them "tanks" is getting uber'd by healers hahaha what a joke
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>>563626045
Crazy to not have Phish here
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>>563628005
>no I WANT a Rivals GOATs meta
Tanks are fine as is, Mr shitposter
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>>563627837
Carolkun we JUST got rid of that dash bullshit for Elsa and you wanna bring it back?!
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So what's the effects of all of them?
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>>563626839
If she wasnt a tank rogue punches would give lifesteal
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>literally empties your wallet
God I’m gonna lose so much to Felicia… idk if I’ll even be able to play vs her…
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Which Rivals girl has the softest belly?
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>>563628139
FOr SHe yes
carol is actually fast
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>>563628180
Findom is a shit fetish.
>>563628268
SG. Stupid question.
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>>563628153
Sex with magik
Sex with Loki
Portal sex with Strange
Fishy sex with Namor
Rocky sex with Ben
Sex with Wanda
Femndom Sex with me
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>>563628153
Literally no one knows what the fish does
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>>563628268
Hela
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>>563628153
>stealing from apex

Why do they only take from other live service games?I hope the new heroes added after this more unique and not just a mismash of what already is in the game
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>>563626462
i agree with you and the Twitter sentiment. new characters are getting STACKED kits that make S0 heroes look unfinished. it is fucking insane that Felicia has all these magical artifacts and spells but Scarlet Witch is just a flying vacuum that explodes once every 2 or 3 minutes.
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>>563628268
Peni, SG is filled with nut
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>>563628153
From top left, clockwise, and starting with the fireball:

>throw it, can suspend in air, tethers to opponents and lets you see through walls to see them. maybe also a slow?

>mermaid tail looking thing: throws down a bubble shield that cleanses

>portal: Strange portal, but seemingly only on walls

>Fish: it at least pulls down enemies, gives them a white bar that seems to be a debuff

>Return the slab: Gives her 1000 coins

>Tiara: invis

>>563628556
it's much less Apex than I thought. it's just 6 abilities in one
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>>563628556
In no way similar to any Apex charcater other than literally just the diamond shape.
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>>563628268
Luna if cum-flated belly counts.
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>>563628356
Rivals SG is shredded dude
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>>563628735
buying from a box you control
its the same mr.damage control
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>>563626646
They ruined Emma and Rogue but at least they got Felicia right.
Hot as fuck. Rivals is BACK.
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>>563628556
>me when designs in a character based genre are largely derivative
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>>563628467
It seals movement abilities
>She's dive
Rockets are gonna instaban her lmao
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>>563628153
Crown: Invisibility ala Psylocke
Box: Strange's portal
Evil Head: Something that let you see opponents like DD and beam their ass
Fish: Some AOE thing
Stone: Give you money?
Helmet: Bubble that remove Elsa's trap
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>its another "team collectively loses 100 iq points and starts getting dominated after crushing the first 7 minutes" episode
literally why does this keep happening and what can i do about it as a lowly tank player?
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>>563628905
Gayfag
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>>563628693
>Gives her 1000 coins
Wait, what does coins do?
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>>563629024
>make BC steal skills better than rogue
>rogue cels on suicide watch
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>>563629140
You buy the items with it. You get money by attacking too.
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Who should I learn next, Wolverine or Iron Fist?
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>>563629087
There's usually a reason you start losing. Most common I think for low level players is you go almost deathless and steamroll with momentum for that first section and then one person on your team dies. It takes a bit for the rest of the team to die, in worst case they slowly get picked one by one, and then when everyone respawns they immediately hold W to the objective without regrouping. You then spend the rest of the match walking into a 1v6 over and over until you eventually lose.
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>>563628735
>>563628863
I assume he meant Loba but even then Felicia is different enough. It's just she has a shop.

Ironically Felicia is buying the abilities while Loba straight up steals equipment

>>563629140
You use coins to buy the abilities, and to use her claw whip thing. You get them per hit, landing her E, and. per kill. It looks like 150 per kill and 50 per hit. Idk if assists get you some too
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>>563625884
Those patch notes were entirely nothing, holy shit, I was actually surprised, then again the dev vision itself was entirely short. Like nothing but vast amount of empty space except for a few selection of heroes. I guess they thought the CC change alone was enough not to go through every hero lmao.
>>563626462
I wish Squirrel Girl got that post launch Akira Toriyama bloated power level handjob kit they keep giving every new hero release. Possibly would've been an interesting melee brawler hero character rather than just
>"Oh shit we need a Junkrat rep while we're stealing shit from Ogrewatch, uh uh, Squirrel Girl will do!"
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I… I changed my name, guys…
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>>563629224
>>563629024
Is everyone retarded today?
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>Have MVP on Ultron in 2/2/2 and was winning
>Second tank decides to go third DPS
>We start getting pushed back
>I can't fucking play Ultron anymore, even at ground level because Strange is getting ignored and I go Loki
>It's not working
>Lose second round
>I lose MVP because of this retarded second tank going third DPS and I'm forced to go tank because I don't trust this faggot as he can swap on a dime
>Enemy surrenders but the faggot who swapped steals MVP
What an undeserved fucking MVP, even as Groot, he was in front of their spawn door fighting and dying.
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what is this from
once of you posted it so you have to know
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>>563628556
I don't see a problem
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>>563628153
Tablet of Destiny (100): Fortune Gacha gives a random payout of Fortune. Gave her a 1000 jackpot in the trailer.
Flame of Faltine (100): A Ward item, like in MOBAs?. Seemed to reveal, no idea what else it does. No idea what the flame target does other than non-damage
Helm of Hades (200): Invisibility for 2 sec
Anti-CC Crystal (200): Negates one instance of CC, unlimited duration
Ring of Zona (200): Places a portal directly through a wall. This cannot be shot through
Memofish (200): Grounds targets in an AOE and disables movement, basically pocket Namor Ult without the damage nuke.
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>>563629482
>Is everyone retarded today?
This was an actual post last thread
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>>563629576
>Tablet of Destiny (100): Fortune Gacha gives a random payout of Fortune. Gave her a 1000 jackpot in the trailer.
literally whats the point except to let players grief
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kingsman sounds like norm macdonald
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>>563629380
yeah i notice thats almost always what happens, we get picked off then everyone starts running in one after the other like retards until we've lost all semblance of team cohesion. its exhausting
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Is Black Cat associated with the Thieves Guild in the comics?
I've never heard of such a thing
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>>563629576
is she invincible while shopping?cause if not we might get some funny shenanigans
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>>563630079
It's either that or the enemy team switched to counter your retards
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They gave Black Cat a GTA weapon wheel of spells but Scarlet Witch only knows like, two magic tricks. Nice one, Zhi.
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>>563627958
Jesus dude
>>563628268
Peni
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>College Peter
>He's riding a bike and not his motorcycle
Gas prices must've hit hard
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>>563628268
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>>563630313
I would assume not
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>>563629430
When you put it like that, there’s quite a fair bit of characters I’d like to see a rework for…
>>563630229
If it is a thing it’s not anything major
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>>563627183
Vanguard does keep getting hoed but if Rogue is a Vanguard and Carol isn't i might actually commit an act of international terrorism. it's too late now, she must be a Vanguard. same with She-Hulk.

>>563627503
excellent point about the shotgun. i completely agree.
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The new tenacity mechanic seems interesting but needing to endure 5.5 seconds of CC before you can even start building a resistance to CC seems pointless because you'll be dead before you get to 100% tenacity.
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Is he right, /mrg/bros? Gotta say, if Doc Strange was a DLC hero vs launch roster, he'd definitely be 100% cooler.
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>>563630079
The only thing you can really do in that situation is either call it out in chat or pick out who you think has the most impact in your team and wait for them to spawn so you can run with them and hope the others notice and do the same.
Otherwise, it's just one of the many downsides of playing with randoms in low elo.
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>Before the match even fucking started, I'm getting yelled at for picking Ultron
>I wanna win and rather not hear them complain so I pick Rocket and just hold right click
>Keep hearing praise that I'm doing a good job heal botting
Go fuck yourselves, genuinely. I already degraded myself to only healing
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>Felicia is more of a magic caster than the 2 Sorcerer Supreme title holders in the roster
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>>563631095
literally 0 reason to add this mechanic. its the most dumbass way to approach the issue. making faster respawns would've been a better solution that adding in MMORPG stun resistance mechanics. the worst part is that they for sure committed like 1,000 manhours worth of meetings, coding, testing to implement it, and won't ever remove it because it'd be embarrassing
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>>563631130
>>563631314
Black Cat's fucked around with magic before tho
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>>563631130
What is it with autists getting mad that launch characters are less complex than new ones?
Like no shit the characters that had to be hastily finished in the lead up to release are less in depth than the ones that can comfortably get way more development hours now that the game is a success.
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>>563631314
The curse of being a launch hero
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>>563625979
Rocket somehow had a really high winrate even back when his Ultimate did basically nothing, I dont trust these devs to not be lying about his performance so that they dont have to buff him.
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>>563631372
Black Cat is also not the sorcerer fucking supreme and spends most of her time in comics getting bent over and used as a cum receptacle
Why the fuck does she have more spells than the actual magic casters
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Does black cat shit inside litter box?
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Oh no, black cat can spend 100 couns so she can go invisible for 2sec.
Oh the horror, she will truly be OP, she will morph the meta, she is so unstoppable and strong.
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>>563631571
dont call peter that
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>>563631571
idk man damn
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>>563631095
Really depends on what the game qualifies as CC, but it does seem retarded. A lot of mundane shit has some micro CC to it.
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>>563631314
this shit actually makes me glad they haven't added Captain Marvel yet so that she can get a super deluxe bullshit kit later this year.

>>563631558
TRVKE
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the women in this game no longer excite me sexually the way they did when the game launched
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>>563631095
They added this because of the 1v6 game mode.
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Am I the only one who never felt like CC has been a major problem to begin with
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>>563631130
>Niggas mad Black Cat is using more magic than witches and sorcerers
Since when did you fags ever ask for Strange and Wanda to have EVEN MORE utility?
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Hey guys, it's my dream to work at Netease as a gameplay designer.
I've worked up to two character concepts for a new Vanguard and Duelist.
What do you guys think?
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>>563630463
I can’t think of a bigger fumble movekit wise Kek
>>563630607
Adorable
>>563631372
Yes, and there’s a massive difference between that and it being a massive part of her moveset
She certainly shouldn’t be more versatile than strange or witch
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>>563632083
You feel that way because you don’t play tanks
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>>563632083
It's mostly an issue for vanguards and particularly dive vanguards.
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>>563631770
I feel the same but about the game in general. I don’t know what it was about those first few months but everything just felt better.
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>>563632083
Not really that big a problem most characters but I play Angela so any CC is extremely crippling.
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>>563632132
>I can’t think of a bigger fumble movekit
Rogue
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>>563632128
Zhiyong should hire you
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>>563632128
I still love Thing regardless.
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>>563632128
Give it 1 year and Boob Girl is going to be powercrept so much that no one ever uses her.
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>>563632083
this niggas never played venom
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>>563631571
Hey, my mouth is NOT a litter box, buddy.
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I shot a blocking Iron Fist in the back and he still blocked it. I could have sworn he only blocks from the front
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>>563632083
Friend I enjoy your rocket posting but what CC are you being subjected to
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>there are apex players here
What even was the appeal of that game
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>>563632485
Hey, I play Strange too. Other than Emma grabs and Wanda stuns I barely notice anything that isnt an ult.
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Usually I get ok teams, or teams where the weak link is healers. People who stay 100 m away from tanks, or that ult the moment they get it even when it's not needed, or that conversely HOLD ULT until their team start dying. But now I'm seeing more terrible dps, diver who die 5 times in a row turning half the match into a 5v6, or that won't push up even when healers ult, or that will panic ult despite half their team being dead and just completely wasting it. I don't know what's going on
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>>563632132
fumble movekit wise? I can name a few others

Hulk is an ultra mechanical heavy hero requiring good aim to make use of lockdowns that sucks fucking dick at brawling because he gets giga raped by someone like emma and dealing damage with his fists and is insanely squishy ubder fire in comparison to someone like magneto or strange and his ult is also possibly the biggest joke in the game especially the Q move

Black Widow has been straight dogshit being the worst hero in the game for every single season in a row since launch with only desperate wanna be different autists saying otherwise. She has 0 utility outside of a kick combo and is purely a mediocre sniper that gets outclassed by hela in basically everyway. This is also the super spy character with 100,000 gadgets for every scenario.
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Why the fuck is Black Cats kit so over loaded?
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>>563631558
It's fucking hilarious when you compare her kit and Wanda's kit.
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>>563632338
why not just jump into the ocean
stupid rockhead
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>losing on launch of their new season
KEEEEK
Felicia gonna obliterate them on Friday
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>Black Cat's Icon is her mask
>Instead of like, a cat paw or maybe a stylized "BC" or just a whole ass cat
Kinda wack, not gonna lie
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>>563632132
>I can’t think of a bigger fumble movekit wise Kek
Hello?
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>>563632492
Loba
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>>563632930
Are we seriously going to pretend that rivals is better than overwatch
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>>563632492
The only time I've ever looked up Apex is for that one female character with the massive ass
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>>563632132
>I can’t think of a bigger fumble movekit wise Kek
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>>563632492
It was very fun until about season 10 or 11. Probably one of the best shooters ever made during that time
>>563633135
>Loba
this too
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Now when is Rivals gonna get a girl as sexy as the ones in Marathon
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>>563633495
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>>563633452
i wish i could still play it, but they removed support for linux at the start of 2025, what fags
probably for the best tho
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>>563633495
Marathon genuinely has the ugliest characters in gaming
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>>563626646
>Based on this
They picked the most boring launch outfit
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Fuck Apex
All my niggas love Titanfall 2 and hate Apex
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>>563633176
>OWsissy in /mrg/
Leave immediately. Leave immediately.
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>>563633729
Not my fault yall are gay and retarded
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>>563633814
Just ignore this retarded avatarfag, all his posts are low quality bait
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>Watch trailer
>Good boy, Petey!
Jesus Christ.
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>>563633452
>season 2 predator
very nice outside of being a consolefaggot
still more impressive than OAA though
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>>563633176
oh we are not pretending, my good sir
We know this as a FACT
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>>563633729
can't believe we have George Droid and his fent reactor in a video game
When are they adding Robo-Chauvin with his superpowered knee as a counter to George Droid?
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>enemy players notice how shit our supports are
>instant psylocke and starlord swap
how do you counter this?
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Black Cat mogged Overmid in a couple hours. How are they coping?
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>>563633776
post exciting ones?
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>>563634083
See when MR adds another DPS character nobody wants they at least have the courtesy to make her a bisexual sex goddess
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All brawl characters are complete dogshit
buff poke



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