PROPER SENSE Edition>News:Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99>Wiki:https://bg3.wiki>Mods:https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/>FAQ:>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.>Polls:>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnYOP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpastaPrevious thread: >>563777935
Damn brat
reminder that:>the bg3 party having way too many humans and elves is a flaw according to many people>bg3 companions don't interact with each other and we needed way more drama in our camp >we needed a friendship path with the companions to make make them feel more complex as characters when we're not romancing them>the poly paths are underwhelming >act 3 was rushed and worse written than the rest of the gameand that larian acknowledged all of this and will do better in their next game
Can someone please help me find the Early Access of Baldur's Gate 3? I wanna play the beta , but every torrent i found has no seeders
>>564078487Using BG3 as a pretext or tangent to talk about Larian's Next Game is still not on topic. Posting random tweets, youtube comments, or reddit screencaps is zero-effort shitposting. Find a new gimmick or, ideally, just shut the fuck up.
I would sacrifice all Karlach content if it meant Minthara got her screentime or you didn't need Wyll for his patron.
>>564078893hmm nyo
>hating Tamarynvery cringe like behaviour
>>564079185trvke, we love mizora & her VA
>>564079010>Karlach contentOne combat encounter you don't even need Karlach for and then nothing but a few cutscenes later. If anything the game would be better if Karlach wasn't even a companion.
>>564079010Glad they chose Karlach over your ugly man
>>564079306at least the janny only removed the posts, no warning but very cringe. posting vas is thread culture
>>564079010>>564079346I like karlach, the party would be nothing but edgelord without her minthara & halsin shouldn't have been companions imo they're barely companions to begin with and are barely mentioned by the rest of the party
Gorion's Ward once said:I am excited for DivinityIdle Champions of the Forgotten Realms is an official Dungeons & Dragons tm game.Minthara is canonically 150 years old, pansexual and neutral evilI collect barrels and throw them at every boss including MintharaMinthara did not watch Viconia leave in her childhoodMinthara is the throat goatI respect all women but MintharaIf you romance Minthara you are a horrible personIf you romance Astarion you are a great personI ascended AstarionI romanced ascended AstarionI play with lots of mods onI fucked Halsin and Shadowheart at the same time and loved itShadowheart is right not to use her birthnameShadowheart is not chaotic evilShar is neutral evilGale was groomed by MystraI play sorcererI camp castYou can't find Mayrina's brothers' corpsesKarlach is okay for using soul coinsWyll is a real characterI sympathized with KethericI play male TavI love dragonborns, halflings, gnomes and dwarves
>>564079557factual
>remove post and whole chain
>>564079467>only option to edgelord is retardKarlach is a retard who the game would be objectively better without.
>>564079943bro the party is full of retards including your precious minthara and people love karlach so you're clearly wrong about being objective
>>564079662>removes baboons from the game with modsBASED
>removes male fanservice because it made some people feel very funny down there
>>564079943Then kill her, game doesn't force you to recruit or use her.
>>564080038I don't care about Minthara. She can be removed from the game with no loss as well. >people>love karlachPick one. You can't have both. >>564080306The ultimate issue is that she's a poorly written trash character who contributes nothing to the game other than annoyance. Development time was spent on that trash.
>he thinks Karlach is hatedWhy are Mantharafags so allergic to reality
>>564080453karlach is the second most popular bg3 character, no amount of cope will change that
>>564079374>Karlach fan calling anyone else's waifu a man
>>564080862>popularIs not a synonym with good. Karlach is a shit character that only appeals to low IQ reddit trannies.
>>564080950
>>564081196My point stands.
nice thread you guys, off to a very nice startsummer game fest can't happen soon enough we really need divinity trailers to give /bgg/ more pep in our step
>>564081243Her name is Manthara. You thought because she's a "female" drow she would immediately by popular when no lol
Where does this autism come from? Can a general not survive on /vg/ without mainlining mental illness?
>>564081550I knew we were in for a bad time the second someone started posting screenshots of realms restored, these ''people'' always have to shit up the place
>>564081550>newfag
>>564079462>at least the janny only removed the posts, no warning I wonder if you are able to reflect on that instance or if you will continue to assume that every deleted post means the poster was banned.>posting vas is thread cultureNot really. By that logic, you would have to condone other types of garbage like schizospam, shitty fanart spam, or talking about voice actors' personal lives. What do you think Jen had for brunch today? For your kind, "thread culture" is an euphemism for "unchecked shitposting." I think the thread is greatly improved when we avoid such "thread culture" and focus on the very difficult task of talking about the game and the characters. It can be something as trivial as Astarion's casual racism against midgets or Minthara's disregard for (male) wizard life.
>>564081886I disagree.
>>564081886and you reported them
>>564081886>thread culture" is an euphemism for "unchecked shitpostingThread culture is whatever we the community deem appropriate for the thread. Multiple people like talking about and posting VAs so it's thread culture.
>>564082351he's right you know
>talking about "we" on 4chani know what you are
>still responding seriously to it
Take the wyllpill
are they right
why... why couldn't I be enough to satisfy youShaddy...
Will Swen let Tamaryn achieve her true potential in Divinity and give us the explicit fanservice we deserve?
>>564082969Gale is obviously the main character, not the dark urge.
>pulls mage out of a rock with pure strength>headbutts a vampire-elf right on the nose>cooks you a nice meal afterwards
>>564082969oh 100%, they added all the stuff that dorks would find ''cool'' about a wizard to his backstory and gale still ended up being a massive bitch
>giving a late night butt massage to Shadowheart>hear a rustling outside and Gale mumbling about plants loud enough to make sure we hear>look up, he's directly looking at us through a window>Shadowheart mouths "what the fuck" to me>confront him about it later so things aren't weird. >he smirks and squeezes my shoulder a few times, says he "forgives me">later he's organizing ingredients while I look through our supplies>"... that's an often misunderstood aspect of hyena ears, here take a look at this specimen">turn to see his ballsack sticking out of his robe, pressing it flat to look like a "hyena ear">he just stares at me smiling like he's won something>"Yep, good one Gale, got me again"Why am I travelling with this literal sex offender
I tried the karlach origin and dropped the playthrough after a few long rests, it's just not fun playing as a companion I'm sorry
>>564085613imo karlach's origin sucks cause the player gets touched all the time in cutscenes but no one reacts to her flames. least immersive origin
>>564085613me but with Astarion because I didn't want to play evil
>>564082351>Thread culture is whatever we the community deem appropriate for the thread. This is correct in an ideal world devoid of samefagging, but we don't live in an ideal world. How many times can that namefag-obsessed pasta be reposted in every thread with a "trvke" reply that soon follows before you connect the dots? How many times can the same time-wasting topics be repeated in every thread ad nauseam before you realize it's the parasite behind these? Moreover, the logic that the "community" dictates what is deemed appropriate can be applied both ways. Single reports don't do anything on a fast-moving board like /vg/ - reports are only effective in sufficient volume. In other words, a post getting removed is an indication that enough anons bothered to report it. Posting slop could also be considered part of that ill-defined "thread culture," though it certainly doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to be better. Posting beauty should be no less natural than posting slop. I like that pretty frog posted at the end of the previous thread.
>>564083340You never answered my question, strong woman. Why Tempest domain?
>>564086956glad the pasta continues to piss you off
>>564086956
>>564086956Please keep your posts on the topic of the Baldur's Gate series :)
>>564087524they will have a nice cute daughter
>>564087137Oh sorry. Despite the game insisting to make your character from Baldur, I consider that my girl is from a nomad tribe that uses the stars for travel and the moon to count time, so obviously Selûne is an important part of her culture.As for the tempest domain, it's a reflection on the changing nature of the moon (kind and gentle during peaceful times, but also swift and punishing in combat), a way to show the tribe's connection to nature, and a way to dispel clouding darkness. Not a lot of things are as impressive and shiny as a lightning in the night.
>>564086956cute frog x2
a victorian era larian game with vampires and eldritch godstrash or cash
>>564087673Right. I posted a Baldur's Gate 3 screenshot featuring two Baldur's Gate 3 companions and a player character inspired by a Baldur's Gate 3 githyanki (Yy'rul). I'm doing it again. I mused about what constitutes "thread culture" - voice actresses and disgusting slop to some, characters and beauty found in the game to others. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but there's never been a general that replaced posting attractive characters with attractive real people.>>564088287Thanks. I was skeptical about the association, but this is a valid justification.
Nettie, my beloved
>>564083340A strong nord woman...
>>564089446Gods they really are so perfect for each otherwhy couldn't it be me...
>dutifully eating the goodberry pie like she wants you to>feel Shaddy's legs clamping around you suddenly>hear the gruff grunts of Halsin somewhere behind become more primal, more animal>manage to look back a bit, seeing Halsin with his hard "oak staff" start to get more hairy, more leathery. Bigger.>"w-wait, n-nnoo" you start to plead, struggling to get free>Shaddy begins chanting, looking at you with glee, as she casts Command: "Submit">A heavy paw lands on your shoulder holding you in place
>>564090135>>564089939>>564089446>>564088663not funny
>>564089518>but this is a valid justification.I'm glad! When I finished writing the why, I feared that perhaps it was too far-fetched>>564089935Name's Sigrid
>still responding to it
I wish it was possible to save a character's "code", like in Mass Effect for instance, and store it somewhere to share it with other people, or just to use it to create a merc
oh my GOD we GET IT
>gets angry at you for telling her that literally devouring souls, denying them an afterlife, is bad>gets angry at you for telling her she shouldn’t encourage children to become thieves and scammersKarlach is really a shitty person.
cuck schizo will forever be mindbroken about bg3's success
>>564091697>layered characters with flaws are bad because uhhhhwyll's the best person in the party and he's complete dogshit
>>564090135>artist gf mostly doesn't pay attention while I'm gaming>meet this guy>"Oh who's that">quit game>weeks later, she's acting shady, hiding her notebooks when I enter the room>pretend not to notice but peek at them when she's at work>pages and pages of Halsin lewdsno no no NO NO NO NO NO
His spam gets deleted almost instantly in crpg. Why don't you retards just report it?
>>564089865fixed
>>564091932Because it's on topic, and "spam" doesn't mean anything you or I dislike, retard.
>>564092310You're spamming copypastas. Copypastas are extremely low effort posts. Go outside and lose some weight
Why so many female NPCs are insufferable, overly smug cunts that think they can talk shit to you? It reminds me of The Outer Worlds, and this is not a good point.
>>564091865>but WyllWasn’t the topic. Did I strike a nerve criticizing the amazing Redditlach?
>>564092458because they're smug cunts talking shit to you and you got plenty of dialogue options to clap back
Tav has a rumbly tummy from all that "goodberry pie" but just can't stop.As soon as Daddy Halsin pumps a new batch into Shadowheart, Tav is in place ready to slurp it up like a greedy little beast. It goes on like this for all the night and into the morning. Finally Tav retches, it's just been too much druidic seed... yet still, the feeding frenzy continues.>hrmrmmmnfhrhgrlrlgm mmm yum good yes yes good berry mmmgrllrlkfrjmHalsin and Shadowheart look both disgusted and highly amused. "Nature's bounty" he says to her and she laughs, shaking her head
>>564092503>layered characters with flaws are bad because uhhhh
>>564092545Well, when the annoyance is too high I tend to "clap back" by cracking their heads open if the game let me
>>564092713Wasn’t what I was saying. Try again.
worst thread ever
>>564092940that's the schizo autist's goal. i go to work and this autist is spamming. i get off and this autist is still spamming. sometimes there will be a quiet day or two when his mom takes away his keyboard or somethingi feel bad for his mom jesus christ. imagine THAT is your child
>>564093312Hell, imagine what a fucking mess he has to be.
>Shaddy laying back, exhausted from Halsin's pounding>Daddy Halsin sitting back with his pipe, supervising your clean-up>"mmmnfurfnfmmm nurmomnurghh good mmm arrmgfrnmm mmm goodberry good">"Slow down, Tav! You'll make yourself sick!>"There will be plenty more Goodberry Pie for you later :)"
>>564089865baseed
Day after day after day, for hours on end, repeatedly posting nothing but Halsin/Shadowheart cuck fantasies on BG3 general.This man’s life is a living Hell.
>>564094675he's been doing it for 3 years now btw
I don't even help Shadowheart escape the nautiloid anymoreI stand and watch her pound on the pod, and I say outloud "You know what you did." Then I turn and leave.Halsin? Dies in the goblin cages. And then I restart. I have done this around 30 times now.I will never forget what you took from me Halsin.
>>564094774Jesus Christ
>>564094675why do you think that he does it to threads with the pastebin in the OP
>>564094967why are you lying about something so easily checkable?
because its very interesting to see who defends his actions!
>I was just pretending to be retardedPerish.
what do Halsin's balls smell like?
oooh speaking of which I was checking how old some of the /bgg/ pastas were and look at what I found LMAO
>>564095557his comments about halsin are odd considering the game hadn't released yet. how the fuck would he know that halsin wanted a real relationship? he couldn't be romanced at all in ea
>>564095557hes so creepy
>>564095881headcanons? idk pretty sure that was pre-bear reveal
Did mantharafag finally kill himself?
>>564096548I so wished she was red, man
>>564096797he's posting slop in /crpgg/
>half of the thread is cuck/h*lsinpostingThe Absolute(TM) state of this general.
>>564097860we're waiting for the summer game fest, we'll be full of schizos until then
>>564078108STOP BULLSHITTING MESorry, I had to.
>>564095557>I don't like tieflingshis racism yet again
>>564080453You don't need to pick one. He is right. People love Karlach. Nothing you say will change that no matter how annoyingly inconsistent she is.
>>564097053
oops
>>564098487Still too red and too horny. But with tits like those I will allow her to remain in my camp.
Karlach's emotional breakdown after you kill Enver is the best acted scene in the game by far btw. She should have won the best VA award just for that.
>>564098740>She should have won the best VA award just for that.But she is not Gaynifer English though
>>564098740yeah it's definitely one of the best scenes in the game and it was hardcarried by her VA's performance, karlach needed more moments like that
>>564098740shes really good, all of them are but wyll's va
>>564098740she did win a best va award though. she won the bafta one
>>564099065wyll gotta have the worst performance in the game, it's so fucking bad>oh dang it my dad just died oh I'm so sad mizora you arsehole
>>564098890Jennifer English didn't win any awards for Shadowheart. Every award she's ever gotten has been for Maelle
>>564099073>she won the bafta oneGoogle says she was nominated but lost to gay vampire(again)GOD i HATE fags so much.
>>564099736>posts a dyke
>>564099926I LOVE fag-on-fag violence tho.
>>564095557i still think we should go back to calling him shadowheartfag whenever he shows his face
>>564099736oops never mind she won some other award not the bafta one. the spiderman guy won it
>wethere's that word again
>>564085813durge is the least immersive origin thoughbeitever
>>564100096What's wrong with that word? Do... do you not know what the word means?
>>564099225Worst performances:WyllKethericNocturneNaaberOwlbear cub
>>564100401trvke
High Elves.
>>564100232eeeh, you can customize everything about them including their voice & gender, I'd take that over any origin
>>564100401What's wrong with the owlbear and Ketheric? Is there something about it I am missing?
>>564100232durge is the most fun thoughbeiteversowithal
>>564100890The owlbear cub's voice acting is insanely grating. I never use speak with animals on it anymore. Ketheric sounds like some dude phoned his lines in from a Walmart parking lot
>>564082969Yeah. He's also Chosen, and Shart is being groomed for being Chosen as well. They're all mary sues (except for Lae'zel who is just a teenager who just graduated from bootcamp). These are the sort of things you're supposed to avoid when making a character.But it's not a flaw in bg3 since it's very self-aware. The writers are writing tropes of bad players, WotR did the same thing, especially with Greybor and Nenio. The joke is that a lot of players say the things he says as justifications for why their character is doing something and it doesn't work in-universe so these characters do the same thing. It's all self aware humor. bg3 is written as you and your goofball friends actually playing dnd, each of the characters are a player habit, and right down to there being a literal narrator. It's part of the charm.
I hope they either cut the "evil meme route" from next game or just fucking commit. Rogue Trader also had the same problem. Half assed evil routes taking away from precious development resources infuriates me.
>>564100890>Ketheric?NTA but some people dislike Ketheric for J.K. Simmons sounding pretty monotone.One of those situations where i'd argue it certainly fits the character but is questionable whether such a character required such a well known VA like J.K. Simmons.His performance is not bad but the character isn't exactly the one where a VA can show off his skills.Bit like buying an SUV for a single house hold and all you do with it is buy groceries.
>>564101486Speaking to the Owlbear is like a one and done. After you meet it and talk to it once that's probably it until Act 3? I can't really comment on the sound quality because I use a mod called DVQR. But I like the delivery on his lines when he talks about being a pawn for the gods.
>>564101607
>>564101607>the shadowheartfag was here the whole timethat explains so much
>>564101607>I need to put namefag DNI on my posts
ugh i want them to announce the show's casting already
>>564102175any actors you don't want like the chick who plays Ellie in the TLOU show
>"n-no more g-- hurrgh... goodberry pie... too mmff much...">Shaddy: "Come on Tav, finish your goodberry pie">Tav: HURRRK>Shaddy: (casts Command: Eat)>Tav: mmrmfrrgghnm nurrffmm good yes goodberry good>Halsin: "Nature's bounty ;)"
post pics of modded minthara that actually look goodno you cant just say its impossible at least try
>>564097860Crying about Mintharafag, even when they're not here, is not on topic or valuable either. Interesting that you don't mention the worthless parasite shitting up every thread that way.>>564091697>literally devouring souls, denying them an afterlifeShe doesn't know that. And depending on your player character, neither do they. You don't see Shadowheart or Gale interjecting or saying that there's a way to save these souls. Short of high-level magic that your party has no access to, these souls are, for all intents and purposes, already lost.>she shouldn’t encourage children to become thieves and scammersWhy not? They're tieflings, like her. Because of what happened in Elturel, they will always be treated with suspicion and discrimination. Because they are orphans, they have no support system. Their prospects are limited. So what if your character can preach about virtue from their position of privilege? Do they know what it's like to rely on scraps to get by? Do they know what it's like to be hungry and desperate? I don't think someone who can casually drop two hundred gold for a night at the Elfsong would relate. Being a "good person" is not synonymous with being empathetic - being able to understand someone else's perspective.
>>564105184
Cynthia Ervio as Minthara. Make it happen HBO.
>>564105420I’m not reading that.
>>564105420what >>564105645 said
>>564105420>Interesting that you don't mention the worthless parasite shitting up every thread that way.(because he's the worthless parasite)
only 1 person "shitposts" here
>>564106014the good thing is he uses a name so hes easily filtered
>>564101607The other aspect to this is that there's nothing wrong with having larger-than-life characters in fantasy CRPGs. Unlike Alice's or Bob's character, having an extraordinary companion with an extraordinary backstory like Gale or Shadowheart is fine, since it is not meant to steal anyone's spotlight at the table. No one would care about Abigail the apprentice wizard and her ambition to one day become a respectable teacher, or Jen the inexperienced cleric of Selûne and her dream to one day travel the world. Even Lae'zel's unassuming background works in that regard, since she can, against all odds, become the liberator of her people. There's no prophecy attached, but it's just as cool. The Dark Urge could be argued to be even more special than Gale - Chosen of Bhaal and a lifeform born into this world to extinguish life - but that only becomes an issue if you imagined another background for your character.
>>564106871Shart is whatever but Gale makes sorceress/wizard Tav's look like a retard.
>>564105420>>564106871kill yourself
>>564107119Tav is meant to be an everyman. A literal who. The Dark Urge is just as much of a snowflake as the rest of the party.
>>564107337Bard Tav is the most OP character in the game bar none. And other companions doesnt take the "class" spotlight as much as Gale does. d*rge is a brainless meat of slab of the shittiest god in the setting so who cares.
my tav is god's favorite princess
We need to rename this general to larian games general /lgg/. Nobody cares about BG3 anymore, just look at all the rampant shitposting.
>>564107763That's a feature of the class not Tav themselves. Anyone could be a Bard and be OP, even the Origins.
>rampantly shitpost a ton>wow guys look at this rampant shitposting we have to abandon this placei know what you are
>>564107119Unless the only backstory you want for your wizard Tav is to be as special as possible, Gale is not upstaging your character. Sure, he somehow slept with their goddess, and that's probably offensive to some degree, but that's not the same as making them look stupid. He's the stupid one, with a stupid forbidden orb in his stupid body.>>564108029We need to call out worthless parasitic shitposts like these and report them.
>>564108029he's NOT going to like this post
>>564108334where's your manfag screenshot
>>564108240What i meant was, Gale will always be a better spellcaster than a wizard/sorcerer Tav. Thats literally what the game tells you. Minthara or Shart doesnt get lorewise and gameplay wise boosts to be always better than Tav.
>>564077825Where's my neogi parmesan?! Feels like a tenday since I ordered.
>>564108762How is he better than me when:I bench him and kill every enemy in game without him I don't care that Mystra and Elminster fucked him
>>564108334>>564108762Oh I don’t know. Wizard Tav gets to show up Gale in Act 2 with the shadow lantern.
>>564108334>Gale is not upstaging your characterHe carries a godpiece that eventually allows him to be the fucking magic god of ambition man... Your character may eventually end up PRAYING to him to cast fucking spells.Its literal humiliation ritual for wizard Tavs.
>>564089518Hey, I remember this fuckable Tav!
>>564109023then don't enable his godhood?
>>564109097>just dont bring shart to brothel manCmon bro...
>>564109023He achieves minor godhood by ripping off the works of a better wizard and is doomed because his portfolio directly steps on Bane’s toes.
>>564096548Demona de semona>>564098487DEMONA DE SEMONA
>>564109023>literal humiliation ritual go back
You """people"" are why they cut Shar as a option for clerics. You would just whine about not being the donut steel chosen like Shart
>>564108762I think you're focusing a little too much on former ability and not enough on everyone else's backstories; even if the others aren't as powerful in lore they are just as much snowflakes as Gale. Not to mention Gale had his powers drained, without the crown there's no guarantee he'll ever reach those heights again.
>>564109514Shar is a shit goddess so no value was lost there.
I used to hate him for taking Shaddy away from menow... it feels... differentwhat was rage, still has my heart thumping but now I...I want him to do it, I want to thank him for itkneeling in front of Shaddy after He's finished with her...the final debasement, while they watch expectantly, him relaxing with his pipe, her legs splayed out before me, damp Grove beginning to drip>y-yes good, goodberry good
>>564109514these retards are too obsessed about what is "canon" when none of their schizobabble will ever truly be canon just like the shart dream thing no matter how much they seethe its just their schizobabble at the end of the daylarian writers and devs probably dont even know retards like them exist or obsess over canon much more than they planned for them to
>>564109609>former abilityHe is second only to Elminister on understanding how the magic works. He teaches you a free lesson on the camp. Gale has pure skill + education on his side.
>>564109931Have you played a magical Tav? You can tell him you know what you are doing, even point your nose at him. Its just sharing the experience together. >He is second only to Elminister?? there are many wizards/sorcerers outside of Gale.
>>564109082Language. She is a pretty character created by Galesis.
>>564109931In the setting of BG3, sure. In the world of Forgotten Realms, lmao no. Gale probably isn't even a footnote in the world of FR unless you manage to elevate him to the position of a minor deity. And even then he will be just that, a footnote.
>>564109924I am not sure if its autism or trolling. To these fags Gale is THE strongest wizard outside of Elminster
Reminder that gods have a tier system and you need an actual portfolio to become someone powerful, much less someone important.>justice>death>light and darkness>nature>magic>being the patron gods of entire races
>>564110341I doubt god Gale will be canon in anyway.
>>564110205He instruct you to do a magic to reveal the weave, which you can fail if you are unlucky. He then says he fucked your patron goddess because he is so much better at magic then everyone else.>He is second only to Elminister?? there are many wizards/sorcerers outside of Gale.Look i'm esl but i'm sure what i wrote is correct and it means Gale is second when compared to Elminster when it comes to magic. Not that there is only 2 wizards ffs.
>>564110867you are glazing gale for pulling a rabbit out of a hat and calling it high level magic
>>564110867Wizard/sorcs can worship other gods besides Mystra lol.Putting you in the trolling category
>>564110282Alright I'll mind my Ps and Qs (and my D).
>>564111228One of the dialogue choices in that same fucking dialogue is " i worship Mystra as well".Are you going to say a version of >just dont bring shart to brothel as well?
>>564111474>every dialogue option is canon Dang Tav is schizophrenic.... Yes trolling cuckposting
>>564111228we are being baited for sureto change the subject i have a request for one of the laezelfags since we have one who likes to post edits of hercan you make one for elminster using the gale mboy kill yourself jokei feel like this would be a handy image for any of us to have in our pocket for posting in /bgg/
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>>564111591No, what's cannon is, Gale is the uber-duber special wizard prodigy with highest possible education, who fucks goddess of magick and mogs wizard/sorcerer Tav's to irrelevancy.
>>564112013my sorcerer tav said all of these to gale at the same time, canon btw
>>564108762How is Gale always gonna be better? Tav/Durge sorcerer can brute force the lantern in Moonrise and Gale gets bitchy because we show him he's not special.
>>564112432Yes i'm sure thats a comparable feat to being a fucking god.
>>564112625Durge is a Bhaalspawn.Mystra canonically fucks several wizards. Gale said its nothing special
>>564112871Still more special than w/s Tav. Which is the whole point.
>>564113160What part of fucking Mystra is nothing special. Mystra pumps and dumps wizards left and right. Being chosen is more special but who cares, Gale doesn't do anything unique besides blow up.Shart mogs Gale way harder with content and items.
>>564113160If you’re that insecure about Gale’s specialness, take control of the Netherbrain and upstage his comparatively unimpressive godhood pursuit.
>>564112625A sufficiently powerful sorcerer is basically a mini mystra. A wiznerd will never fully understand magic in the way a sorcerer does. They are magic itself.Gale's godhood's canonicity is nebulous for now. They might make him canon, but they also might not.
>>564113489>Mystra pumps and dumps wizards left and right.Not wizard Tav tho :)>Shart mogs Gale way harder with content and items.Nope. Even selune cleric Tav gets unique dialogue to "correct" Shart while dealing with her story. Wizard Tav has no one-up over Gale. Ffs, Gale gets regular conversations with the fucking goddes of magic what are we arguing here?>>564113616Ok bro i wont take Shart to brothel.
>>564114269Toadcel give up
>"I AM SPECIAL! I AM CHOSEN BY MYSTRA!" Gale shouted, as if trying to convince himself of this obvious lie. Minthara gave him a death glare. "Not another word, wizard." She lingered on that word. "Your only purpose in this group is to use your magic to empower me. Understood?" Gale lowered his head and remained silent. He began casting the Haste spell.
>>564112871throw back to when mystra possessed a mortal sorceress, manipulated a man into fucking her (he didn't know mystra possessed the woman he was in love with), and then she gave birth to seven of her chosen daughters. she's a predator
Heey Toadcel who would win in a fight. Gale or Laezel?
>>564114530Kek
>>564114591>she's a predatortvrth
>>564114892why did they make her so ugly?
>>564114602Depends on initiative. Whoever goes first obliterates the other.
>>564115371She’s not bad with all the sparkly glowy shit removed.
>>564115371Grooming little boys makes you ugly>>564115451Ohh what happened to Gale being the second strongest wizard in the universe. Laezel is just a random gith solider.
You know, I'm shocked no one shitposts about the fact Mystra lived as a bear for about a hundred years after she was killed by Cyric and Shar.
>>564116001obviously because that's not in game and therefor off-topic whereas bear and shart are in game and on-topic
>>564115957I didn’t say that about Gale. You’re mixing up your anonymous posters, dumbass.
>>564116121I figured someone would have made a joke about Mystra giving Halsin his scar by now. He got it after he rejected a she-bear
>>564116001No one here knows dnd lore, including me!
>>564116121why do you spam cuckshit so much? your waifu would not approve
>>564105420Cute elf. Name three things you like about her, preferably non-physical.
>>564116496He secretly loves Shadowheart more
i know its in your best interest to strawman someone
>>564081886>an euphemismI just realized this typo. A reminder that spell-checking matters.>>564117139I can only do that for actual characters. But that elf isn't my creation, so she is not an actual character to me - just a pretty face.
>>564118291Divinity Godey boning you
so we can all agree that BG3 completely mogs Divinity 2
>try to load my old game>come face to face with Her>can't stop thinking about all I've found out about with her desires for H>quit gamewhy does it have to be like this
Any Wizard that moves after a martial is dead. This is common DnD knowledge.
>told Aradin Nightsong is an Aasimar and immortal without telling him I killed herAbsolutely devious..
shadowheart and i are in a monogamous relationship and there is nothing you can say or do to change that factcope and seethe
Does the +2 CHA hat stack with the Mirror if you have 20 CHA base? Does it add up to 22 or 24?
>>56412552624
>>564125323Based.
>>564128728lol
>Aradin really thought he could take on your groupHa.>>564128728I'd like Lae'zel if she looked more like this. In-game her skin really makes me shiver, and not in a good way.
>>564078487>will do better in their next gameNot if Swen can help it.
>>564082969In my experience with D&D randos people tend to show up with even worse and far more cringe characters than the BG3 cast.
>>5641342329 times outta 10 its just discount drizzt
>>564133259*vomits*
i joined a suicide pact with a half naked alien and then chickened out. will i inherit valhalla?
Why would any character not kill him as soon as he tries to bleed you? Rogues are a diamond dozen and I can easily just recruit a cute bard hireling who does everything he does but better and with a song.
>>564098740why would you kill him?
>>564137231I like having all the Steel Watchers get overtaken by the Absolute and joining my side.
>>564136885There's no reason not to. Its your civic duty to stake him
>>564136885Only thing I can think of is how desperate of a situation you're in and needing all the help you can get, which is the point he raises if you give him the opportunity to make a case for himself. I mean waking up to a vampire trying to feed on you is really bad but having a mindflayer worm in your head is still worse.
>>564136885Good characters won't kill him even if he was trying to feed on them.
>>564136885hes my favorite character sorrryyy
>>564140254>Good charactersWhy wouldn't a good paladin or cleric, shit or a smart wizard, kill him. Yeah you all have parasites but that's no reason to trust a vampire. His goal is to ascend which is not something a good aligned character would allow.
>>564142168>ascendYou don't even know the ritual exists when you see that cutscene.>why wouldn't a good Paladin kill himBecause that is murder. "He tried to feed on me" is no justification for murder. As the alignment system is no longer in use in DnD, you can't assume he's evil just because he's a vampire or even a rogue. He has a soul just like anyone else, and he has just as much right to live as anyone else. Would you condemn your party for taking water from a pond because the fish need that water to live? Because that's what you're proposing.
>>564143357>murder He's an undead vampire who was caught trying to kill you. Not only are you defending yourself, most faiths have very strict "no undead" rules. And you can't say, "he just needs a little blood" because he will literally kill you if you don't stop him. And if it was murder, killing him would cause an oathbreak on a paladin which it does not.
>>564143357>the alignment system is no longer in use in DnDDoes in my 5e books wtf you on about?
>>564144563>kill youHe was trying to feed, which he needs to do to survive. He only kills you if you are dumb enough not to make him stop when you start feeling anemic.>defending yourselfNo. You're killing someone because you THINK they MIGHT kill you when there is NO reason to think he will do so. That is murder, not self-defence.>it doesn't break your oathIt would only really mess with Devotion, or maybe Ancients. Not to mention all that says to me is that Larian made a bad judgement call or just forgot to code it (the game has many such instances across all three acts). I know at least one DM personally who would shut you down and say that you're breaking your oath by stabbing the vampire in that kind of situation. Don't hide behind "Larian designed it this way" because Larian isn't infallible. They can make mistakes.
>>564131521let him cook
what a nutcase
>>564144806I expect it to still be used somewhat for NPCs or other generic creature types like monsters. Not forcing players to adhere to alignment is enough to treat it as not being in use, not to mention strictly speaking we're in the process of moving past 5e.
can you imagine how hated wyll would have been if he actually tried to convince tav to kill astarion?
>>564144930Get out of here with that post modern bullshit. That faggot gets staked for 1) being a faggot, 2) being a faggot while trying to suck me, 3) being a fucking vampire. This isn't Twilight, bitch boy. Vampires are KOS for most, if not all, of the good aligned faiths in Faerun. This is not debatable. >I know at least one DM personally who would shut you down and say that you're breaking your oath by stabbing the vampire in that kind of situationSounds like you know 3 faggots to me. (You, the DM, and Astarion)
>>564145129>not to mention strictly speaking we're in the process of moving past 5e.Who is we? This is Baldur's Gate 3, a game based of 5e D & D. What is happening in the wider world or if editions came out after that makes no difference.
>>564146112it clearly does since we didn't get alignments in this game because wotc wants to move away from them
>it was a shitposter all alongI should have known, but people on 4chan rarely listen to reason so I had to be sure.
>>564144930>>I know at least one DM personally who would shut you down and say that you're breaking your oath by stabbing the vampire in that kind of situationWhat a shit DM. I've been DMing for 25 years and this has to be a troll.
>>564136885If it werent for the option to whore him out and get the str potion, thats what i would do every single run.
>>564146220a shame since now we cant kill gith on sight claiming they are an evil race
>>564146220>wotc wants to move away from themWotC also wants to be a video game company not a tabletop game publisher. They don't matter.
>>564146273If only I could get the potion and sell his ass to that based Gur dude in the swamp.
reminder that the gith are now aberration according to the newest manuals to releaseif only larian had waited a few years before releasing the game
>>564146331how do they not matter if their vision of the future of dnd influenced bg3's development and depiction of races & characters what?
>>564146034spoken like someone who has never RPed a good aligned character a day in his life. i bet you would be a nightmare to play with.
>>564146262Name back on.
>>564146313Interestingly, as a paladin you get oathbreaker for killing tieflings but killing Lae'zel presents no such penalty. Or massacring a kresh. Or stealing a gith egg and selling it to an old woman. Point being, they're still evil.
>>564136885Ha, yeah this same question has been asked many, many times for years. The answer is that if someone actually assaults another member of camp at night, the prudent thing to do is absolutely just kill that person. They have broken the sanctity of rest and assaulted someone when they were vulnerable, in a situation where you need to trust that person with your life in combat during the day. That kind o trust can't really be regained easily, and you have now learned what that person is actually like, because what a person does when they think no one is watching is what actually says who they are. It all just falls apart when someone does that.Now, this is a videogame. We know he's a character in a game, and so of course he has hundreds of hours of recorded lines and we can guess that he's going to have a redemption or at least reasoning for what he does, so we keep him around. We act contrary to self interest and self preservation because it's just a game. We're not gambling with our real lives. We do the same thing with Shart when we learn she's a sharran. You wouldn't realistically abide a sharran, but she's a videogame character and we're not actually gambling with out lives.People often say stuff like "well you're in a desperate situation and need all the help you can get", but that's simply not true. A sharran, or a vampire who assaults people at night, is not the kind of help you need, they're actively making thing worse and more dangerous for you. The tadpole didn't try to murder you at night, or try to murder Lae'zel at night. The reasonable people who never have altercations like Gale, Wyll, Karl, Halsin, Jaheira, etc are more than enough to form a party.This touches on a larger issue of writing in all games/movies/books/etc, where people act unrealistically for the sake of it being a story. Good writing is believable and internally consistent, and has characters that act reasonably, and that includes fantasy/fiction.
Yep, EU hours are officially ruined. See you guys in another 22ish hours when the thread is back to being half-decent again.
>>564146546What? is this the part of the general where I get accused of being a namefag or given a name like Eric or Fabio or whatever because I dared to tell someone I think they're opinion is shit?
>>564146534nah he's kinda right imo, astarion tried to kill you twice, plenty of good aligned characters would have staked him on the spot, maybe not for talking like a faggot though...>>564146575
>>564146575Ty chatgpt
>>564146534I've been DMign for 25 years and everyone I have ever played with has said I am their favorite DM. But your type aren't allowed at elder tables like mine.
>>564146654>shitposters replying to themselves, cuckspam & crying about gale yeah ok great hours you had there
>>564146842>shitposters replying to themselves, cuckspamSounds like eurotrash to me.
>>564146670Damn thats an ugly man
>in the area leading to the guards for the Murder Tribunal>turn off ALL lights in my corridor>still treated as Brightly Lit areaThank You Larian Very Cool.
imma be honest people have been more vocal about the party being kinda lame lately I can't really blame them half of the party is rushed or badly written, this is why divinity should give us a FULL PARTY OF ASTARIONS & SHADOWHEART
>>564146575Well, Chat GPT, I agree mostly except that yes Shadowheart is a Sharran but she doesn't attempt to murder you twice before you even know that, and for a religious type character it's a bigger victory to convert them to a good aligned deity. Astarion cannot be made into a non-vampire. I don't recall any magic (outside of True Resurrection after death or Wish) in the Realms or other D & D that allows this.
>>564147209Yeah, more smug cunts!
>>564147209>this is why divinity should give us a FULL PARTY OF fags & whoresno.
>>564147347they're the best kind of companions fr>>564147353fags and whores are the kind of people that become adventurers though
>>564147209The party is okay. Half of them are boring is the problem. >astarionFlamboyant untrustworthy vampire, who despite having a shitty past learns nothing from that>shadowheartProbably the most development possible for a companion. Act 2 is basically all about her due to all the Shar shit around. As a person she is rather bland. >wyllBoring. No personality. Zesty as fuck. >galeHe's okay, but also a huge simp and a dork. >karlachMuh reddit chungus amungus waifu. She isn't bad, but her personality is very grating at first until you get used to it>lae'zelComes off as a bitch but is actually the sweetest girl. Will lay you many eggs to hatch into strong sons to fight GHAIK! >halsinObvious rush job by the developers because reddit fags loved him so much. Why? I have no idea? He's not even interesting at all. >jaheiraShe's good. No real issues here.>minscI love Minsc and Boo for sure, but how much of that is just nostalgia?
>>564147690>toadcelopinion discarded
astarion but he's a gnome
>>564147429No i dont want>An annoying leech who is there to dissaprove anything you do despite actively getting benefits.>Cuck writer's fetish made worse by retarded fansLarian needs to learn from these and make genuine evil/whore characters.
>>564147871Wrong. I stayed celibate because I was playing a devotion paladin and I was devoted to my oath not stanky vaginas or dicks. I'm speaking objectively. Lae'zel is exactly like that.
>>564147920What if Shadowheart was a horse?
i only need female companions in my game post female wyll
>>564147690Lae'zel is a bitch because all giths are, but I quickly came to respect her because her pragmatism makes sense. She is harsh but it's a good thing, she forces you to do better. I find her stimulating. I remain a fan of Minthara first, but Lae'zel is cool. And both are definitely better than Shart, no matter how hard Larian tried to play favorite with their precious princess
>>564148158Just change shadowheart into a rogue/cleric, pick up Karlach and Lae'zel, and play a wizard. That's the chad life and I won't take any arguments to the contrary.
Every rpg party needs a dwarf, a wizard, an orc, a sassy elf and a bard.bg3's party didn't need halsin or minthara
>>564148295I agree with everything this anon has said. All hail her mushroomy milk!
>>564148158I would romance Wyll if there was on option to get him pregnant.
>>564148459not that female wyll the hot one
>>564148381>Every rpg party needs a dwarfThat's you, the PC>a wizardGale>an orcLae'zel and Karlach are orc-coded>sassy elf and a bardIf you must, respec Astarion into a bard. Best of both worlds.
>>564148515>Every rpg party needs a dwarf>That's you, the PCewwww
>>564148515>>564148381If you pick a dwarf Tav, can you call any elf companions knife-ears? Because if your fantasy setting doesnt have racism between Elves and Dwarves, then it is a shit setting.
>an attempt at discussing companions is made>the parasite only sees this as an opportunity to talk about Larian's Next GameIt is insufferable.
the gay corner
>>564148542Elf hands typed this post.
>>564148629We're literally talking about companions, retard. Look one post up from yours.
>>564148616>elf companions knife-ears?I can't recall this being a thing but I haven't done a full dwarf playthrough.
>>564148616wotc has toned down the racism in dnd for over a decade now, drows used to be killed on sight for example >>564148629oh my god I can't WAIT for you to police the thoughts of the divinity general and order people to stay on topic to talk about divinity and divinity only this will be peak, if we don't turn /bgg/ into the larian general that is
>>564148616>doesnt have racism between Elves and Dwarves, then it is a shit setting.I don't know about that in BG3 but you can basically shittalk tiefling refugees. Like telling Arron the halfling merchant in the emerald grove that it's okay if the druids close the grove because the tieflings are devil spawn and they'll be just fine do to their devil powers. I'm also sure you can shit talk them to Zevlor's face.
>>564148910>wotc has toned down the racism in dnd for over a decade nowThank God they don't control how people actually play. At my table orcs & drow are evil as a rule. Good orcs and drow are for players to play and they'll still have to deal with the (merited) racism and fear people have for them. Tieflings, Aasamar, & beast races are basically noes as well. Fuck WotC. What are they going to do? Come collect my books and make orcs blue haired Mexicans? Good luck!
>>564149187>Good orcs and drow are for players to play and they'll still have to deal with the (merited) racism and fear people have for them.yeah I feel like that's part of the appeal of playing as these kind of races, getting rid of the racism just turns them into green/purple humans
based
>>564148729People WERE discussing companions - namely, Astarion and whether a good-aligned player character would allow him to live. The conversation was then successfully derailed into rambling about generic fantasy racism, and what every generic fantasy party "needs," since generic fantasy is exactly what Larian's Next Game is all about. Fantasy settings with knife-ears. Kind of a broad net to cast, don't you think?>if we don't turn /bgg/ into the larian general that isThis is the worthless parasite you're enabling, by the way.
>>564149585nobody asked
ignore the autist if the mods thought tangential topics that are still relevant to the generals game were not permissible then they would delete itno matter how much he seethes we are well within our right to discuss these things because they apply just as much to bg3 as any other similar fantasy setting
>>564150314idk why someone would complain about people wanting more of a generic fantasy feel when we're talking about freaking DND
>>564149585Sorry we weren't discussing things so that you could understand them retard-kun.
>tfw no barcus companion
>>564149581Why even play at that point?
>>564150394his retort is probably we are talking about bg3 not dnd and while there is major overlap as the game is based on dnd they are technically not the same thingpersonally i think it is fine because like i said its the kind of thing you can apply to bg3 easilyas an example i do wish bg3 had more racism that wasnt just tieflings/gnomes dindu nuffinkreal issues makes the game feel more real and give people more to talk about plus i personally just dont like giant hugbox games full of love peace harmony and that garbage
>>564150761>barcusYou mean Wulberen right?
>>564150938>wulbrendead and buried
>I killed Yenna but Orin impersonated her anyway and everyone went OMG WE GOTTA GET YENNA BACKO...kay. I guess to be fair the game didn't plan for their failsafe to be dead. I wonder if her corpse will be at the altar or if she will be resurrected from the dead.
Thoughts on greenish wood elves?
>>564151110I'm okay with it. I wouldn't make a sorcerer one but that's just me. Brass or Bronze?
>>564151909Gold, I think it contrasts well with the green and I also get access to disguise self.
>>564152042Sorry, not contrasts, I think it goes well with the green.
>entered Coronation room to fight without disabling the FoundryTHAT IS A LOT OF GUYS FOR TWO PEOPLE TO KILL. I would be very worried... if I couldn't just dip downstairs without the Watchers being able to follow.
>>564152042It compliments her hair as well. I also made a dragonblood sorc Half elf (mines a High Elf for the extra spell) but made him brass because I wanted sleep.
>>564150314The issue is that "tangentially related" is just an excuse for the parasite to shitpost while vaguely feigning interest in the game. Don't you, anonymous, also think the BG3 companions suck? Larian's Next Game should only have Astarions and Shadowhearts! (>>564147209) Actually, scratch that - every RPG party "needs" a midget and a freak! (>>564148381) It mentioned BG3 companions, so it is still "on topic," you see.>>564150895Talking about D&D and the Forgotten Realms is both on topic and welcome. For example, alignment - why D&D moved away from the concept, how it would inform a good-aligned character's decision to keep Astarion or Shadowheart or Minthara (allegedly evil-aligned companions) in the party. Vampires, and whether they are only capable of harming others or whether they are deserving of a second chance. That is not "tangentially related." I would argue that it is actually fundamentally related. But generic complaints ("I think WotC sucks for sanitizing the setting!") lead to generic rambling about generic fantasy settings with generic dwarves and generic knife-ears. And generic is dull.
People complain about Halsin, but im sure if he was black then you would like him more
>>564151110I dont like the slightly greenish skin tone makes the character look sickly.Something like this looks pretty good tho.
>>564152794I would like him less. I'd like him more if he was a cute bard named Alfira.
>>564152794wyll and minthara are black and nobody likes them, it has nothing to do about their skin either btw
>>564152716Who died and made you the king of shit mountain? An anon commiserating about what companions should have been in the game and comparing them to what we got is hardly off topic or fishing for discussion about Larian's next game or Owlcat's for that matter. The game should have had at least one short companion and one of every class. Instead we got the tumblr troupe complete with repulsive faggot vampire, goth bitch who doesn't tell you anything, Redditlach, etc. It's a wonder we got based companions like Lae'zel and Minthara at all. And again, Gale is fine.
>>564153101>wyll and minthara are black and nobody likes themI don't think that's why people don't "like" Minthara. I think it's because for most people you had to be evil to get her. Wyll is disliked for being black and an Erkel.
>>564153285>Wyll is disliked for being black and an Erkel.WRONG
>>564153408No, if he was a thug nigga like Blade (A well liked monster hunter) he'd be beloved.
>>564153203>An anonIt's not just "an anon." I'm referring to an infamous malicious shitposter with an infamous track record of trying to kill the general and being overt about it (>>564108029). You may recognize it by its signature off-topic pictures of other Larian games. When its shitposts start to derail actual conversation, that becomes a problem. Again, criticizing the game or crying about the companions like you just did is fine. You don't like the "repulsive faggot vampire" or the "goth bitch who doesn't tell you anything." I'm fine with everyone except the non-character and the sex pest. Opinions. I'm not trying to police these.
I read all of that
Wyll RavengardAn extremely high quality companion from the award winning game Baldur's Gate 3
Daddy HalsinAn extremely attractive companion from the award winning game Baldur's Gate 3
>>564153959>You may recognize it by its signature off-topic pictures of other Larian games.No. But than again I don't pay that much attention to these threads or any of you.
>>564154172The fact straight guys are unironically calling him Daddy Halsin (and the Dream Guardian Dream Daddy) is a shame and a blight on humanity.
>>564154569This guy is not straight lmao
>>564154569i haven't seen anyone do that
>>564154569>wah wah gay people *sniff*
companion Nere...
>>564159780Me with Minthara's butt
my evil manager disrespected me and now I’m ruining his life class for this feel?
The rainbow is here.
>>564161416bards would do that
>>564152716>>564153203>>564153959>>564154501kill yourself
>>564153203>It's a wonder we got based companions like Lae'zel and Minthara at allwhy are toadcels and mantharafags like this???
>>564167067they got mommy issues and like to be bullied by women
>>564159780>tfw you can't pack up some spider meat for random funnies
>>564159383I wish I could mod him in voice included
Imagine sex with Gortash...
>>564170902durge doesn't have to imagine it
I'm tired of dual wielding and bows, I'm making a finesse-longsword GWM rogueRogue 12 or multiclass? I see Assassin/Gloomstalker get talked up but I'm in a 4-player co-op game and the odds of getting the surprise round off before some retard gets spotted is near 0Probably Thief for the extra BA and either Ranger or Fighter for the Extra Attack. Pushing to Fighter 6 would give an extra feat, while Ranger gives some useful utility spells.
>>564173239rogue-fighter multiclassthe finesse glaive in act 3 is also fun with polearm master + sentinel since the attack of opportunity is also a sneak attack
Buelette>garunteed to encounter it>memorable experience>small barbarian item reward for defeating itCloaker>most people will never encounter it>tedious combat, constantly getting frightened>no reward on its corpse or in the chest it's waiting behind
>>564175824its about the experience
new update from the path of menzo mod, I honestly thought that it was going to be a meme and release half finished like so many fallout & skyrim mods, I still think that they're thinking way too big to release something polished
>>564175824>CloakerI have never encountered that What is it and where do you encounter it?
>>564177350behind the sharran kitchen
>>564177330>path of menzo modwhats this even about
>>564178007oh you know, the big dick stand alone fan project mod that promises a whole new adventure with new characters, new quest, 10 billion hours of content that every bethesda game gets and 10% of them end up finished and 1% of these 10% end up being good
>>564173239fighter obviously
>>564175219>completely missing the part where her face is turning visibly more and more a n g e r y while she reads the slatefor shame
>>564178164yeah but why going to menzobenranrnarnrn
>>564179080reclaim minthara's house obviously
>>564179080it's one of the dnd cities with the most fleshed out lore, idk much about the story but I'm pretty sure that it won't have anything to do with the bg3 plot
>>564179183Gross I don't want that
Hello there! Thoughts?
>>564181661cute
>>564181728Took me way too long to create her...I got bored of Act 3 so I wanted to start over.Here's a bonus pic
>>564181661cute>>564181831Whore
>>564181661Tiefling durge sorcerer?
>>564182178Does the Sword Coast not need whores?
>>564182178
karlach & mizora got huge demon milkers
>>564182202Just sorcerer, no durge
>>564173681>GWM>Polearm Master>SentinelWorth missing out on ASIs?>>564178882Is it that cut and dry? With Fighter I'd probably go Fighter 6 / Rogue 6 for the Feat, but Ranger 5 / Rogue 7 gives me the 4d6 sneak attack dice, the utility spells off of ranger, and whatever the Ranger subclass gives. Leaning Gloomstalker or maybe Hunter for the multiattackI guess I could go Fighter 8 / Rogue 4 to cash in on 4 Feats, but a 2d6 Sneak Attack isn't much to write home about
>>564183345Not big enough sadly, because this game is fuckin gay
Sure wish BG3 had better beholders than just the spectators
>>564186256>me on the right when it's *another* flaming first female officer
the people wanted alfira in their party
>>564186256I wish we could talk to them>>564186929me?
>>564186929i don't
>feats every other level
>>564187381Fighterman, FightermanOverall, he's fairly blandHit some stuff, hit some moreOutside combat is such a boreLOOK OUTHe is the Fighterman
I like the idea but the tattoos look like ass the modder should have copied the design of the concept art tattoos shart has
>>564136885Because he's front and center on the game cover.
>>564191569So it's because of some meta knowledge and has nothing to do with roleplaying...
>>564170902why would you want to fuck a greasy romanian
>17 STR + HAM (+1) + ASI (+2) + Everlasting Vigour (+2) = 21>16 STR + ASI (+2) + ASI (+2) + Everlasting Vigour (+2) = 22Someone explain this shit to me. I took HAM as the first feat so you would think it could count as being under the 20 cap.
>>564191804Yes. I was also trying to make a joke here since everyone takes thing so literal, but well.A chaotic neutral drow druid shouldn't be bothered by a vampire trying to do vampire thing, assuming they're not hypocrites. It's probably a normal occurrence in the Underdark. They may become suspicious of Astarion, but considering how he tried to go after a drow, who don't even sleep, makes you want to consider how desperate, and kind of idiotic, the guy is. Far from being the apex predator he describes himself as. Still, a pretty douche move on his part, and he'll have to earn the party's trust. Maybe he'll accidentally die under Rosymorn and we'll call it even...what do you say, even more meta knowldge? shush now.
>>564192521See? It wasn't so hard to provide an actual interesting, and RP, take on the situation.It's more stimulating! And you reminded me that alignments don't exist anymore alas
>>564192648Pai'Zuri
>>564191852he's turkish
>>564192251Heavy Armor master is coded into a different category than Athlete and ASI and unlike them doesn't stack with the potion.
>make Laezel monk>give her tavern brawler>give her str elixir>suddenly hit for 15-20 damage multiple times a round in act 1 Wow simply epic. I suddenly understand why this extremely easy game needs endless guides and tier lists so we can reach epic levels of gameplay
>>564181661>>564181831who is this slut romancing
>>564193460Really?
>>564194518Drinking more than 5 elixirs per character before act 3 should give crippling debuffs during act 3.
>>564194575I have yet to decide
>>564194117So Athlete would get me to 22? Because a feat and ASI is still better than just having to take 2 ASI's.
>>564194830>SkirbieI thought those mods didn't work for Tiefling bodies.
>>564195002Some do, some don't. FF7's Scarlet dress doesn't seem to work, for instance, but the Chic dress from Clair Obscur does
>>564151110Green and gold scales blend quite well together. Sadly the character creator doesn't allow viewing with different lighting. I like dark drow skin tones but sometimes the shadows get too obscuring.
>>564194849Yes.
>>564194830why is your game so blurry
Helia
>>564151110I think they're great.
>>564196781ugly
>>564196354Ah, I fucked up with the DoF and it was too late when I realized that. It's not the game, it's my fault
>>564197353rare taking responsibility and not blaming the game post
>>564196781>>>564196957
Halsin fucked every single female elf in the grove.
>>564197585Nah, he was wandering around with Nettie and wild she-bears
>>564197489ugly
Halsin had sex with a chimera
>>564197768no
>dude sex lolhalsin & shadowheart are the proof that shadowheart's writer is the most unfunny writer among the writing crewthe funniest is astarion's, honorable mentions to withers & ethel, minsc has nice lines too
sighhh
>>564197489
>>564149351It's funny that every druid in the grove is more racist towards drow than tieflings, except Kagha who hates tiefs so much that their dialogue with her has more difficult skill checks and thinks a drow visitor is a good omen.
>>564198119Can't even tell if it's a boy or a girl
>>564198665>Can't even tell if it's a boy or a girlthat's how most male elves should look like
The only good waifus that have ever come out of this wretched general were dragonborn girls
>>564198119>>564198548ugly
>>564199581you're ugly
>>564192948You're replying to a swine that joked about Astarion being sexually abused.>It's fairly easy, see: when Cazador sent Astarion to the kennel to punish him, do you think Godey boned him?>It's a silly double entendre, as "boned" usually refers to a sexual act, but since Godey is a skeleton and when know he has beaten Astarion, the joke becomes a textbook example of absurdism.Nothing that subhuman has to say about Astarion is about "roleplaying."
>>564200174even the game jokes about astarion being sexually abused soooo
heh
>>564200174Godey bones you everyday
>>564198665Inwe is best girl
>>564083340>cute muscle mommy>>564181831>cute slut>>564198119>cute twinkThe three archetypes
>>564197768You’re ugly.
>>564199680Oh momma
>>564199680If this is supposed to be femHalsin she should have light brown eyes
>>564181831Sometimes less is more. And by less, I don't mean less clothing.
>>564206761oh hush we actually needed more of these body types in bg3, why should mizora the sultry devil have the body same as laezel the lanky giths are supposed to be tall gith warrior or shadowheart the sneaky sharran? Let women have big tits nigga. And don't get me started on wyll, astarion and gale sharing the same bodytype it's even more ridiculous
PLAY LIZARDROMANCE SHADOWHEARTKILL ALL OTHER COMPANIONS (except withers lol)SETTLE DOWN WITH SHADOWHEART AND MAKE LIZARD BABIES
>>564207285There used to be a better bodies mod that would make the default bodies for women more sexualized. One of the problems is that some of the clothing models just don't work correctly. The real question is whether or not a modder can use the script extender to add these meshes and textures for the bodies and clothes while expanding the number of available body types.
>>564206761I don't understand what the problem is
In an ideal world, we'd just be posting beauty and cute Tavs and that would be "thread culture." But in the world we live in, we get a worthless attention whore posting slop of Astarion (the only reply among seven to do so) and a worthless parasite wasting more posts by whining about... body types, again. It is what it is.
>>564208992 >In an ideal world, we'd just be posting beauty and cute Tavs and that would be "thread culture."go jerk off elsewhere bitch this is the baldur's gate general
>>564208992
>>564209215 swen is so based
>>564201018Bibberbangs...
>>564208992You bully anon whenever he posts his elf wife though
>>564079557Sure. Video games are fun sometimes.Idk that game She's lawful evil I only barrel the zhent hideout and the goblins near the spikeable drink (it makes sense to have wine barrels around)Idk manNah the throat goat was ur mum (or dad I don't judge) I don't respect womenRomance in crpgs is a blight upon the genre Romance in crpgs is a blight upon the genreSometimes, if it makes senseRomance in crpgs is a blight upon the genreYes because the UI and looting is terrible without them Romance in crpgs is a blight upon the genreShe should have name changed imo but whateverShe's boring is what she is Officially yeah. Comes off as kinda chaotic evil in bg3 thoughShould have groomed him to be less annoyingSorc is fun. Better than redditlockOnly the potion crafter.Can't you find both? Am I wrong? Idk I think it's kinda fucked imo. Like going sorry you suffered for eternity but you're gonna be 1d4 for maybe 3 rounds (18 seconds) just ain't rightWyll genuinely is terrible and IDK how people can believe otherwiseDudes a psycho. Wife and daughter die so he crashes out and plunges a whole area into deadly shadow for a century, lives off his daughters gfs lifeforce by enslaving her, and then turns to a dead god. He's a retard.I did for my self insert run, cause I like my dick and singular ball (got the big TC brehs)Hate shorties. Hate scalies. Total elven supremacy.
>>564210089>Sorc is fun. Better than redditlockrude
>>564210168Eldritch blast fucking sucks outside of repelling. Short rest comps are gay
>>564210089hows it feel to be wrong
>>564209869I like most elves posted ITT, wouldn't have sex with Halsin though
ranger, talk about it
>>564212269I like it and my crows
>>564211627Liberating.
>>564212738>summon familiar>summon beast master familiar>make shadowheart cast heroes feast and upcasted aidgaming
>>564209869I just wanna know her name.
>>564212941the piggyschizo is NOT going to like this
>>564202348But mine doesn’t fit those categories
>>564212941Don’t forget to cast Longstrider on them all.
>>564212941cute gif im stealing btw
>>564213313that guy's so lame he cries about ''cheating'' but literally never posts his playthroughs I wonder why
>>564209869I appreciate beauty whenever it is posted. I just think we should hold people who call a pretty face their "wife" accountable. Can a pretty face without even a name be someone's wife? Let's be honest. Similarly, how much can the swine care about "roleplaying" when its most spammed doll was just named "Tav" and was created for the sole purpose of attention whoring? This is about having standards and enforcing them consistently. If you feel like posting beauty, do it. If you have a wife, you should be able to name her and list three (non-physical) things you like about her. If you're going to ramble about roleplaying, don't brag about cheating.
>>564213473based>>564213530He doesn't even own the game
>I appreciate beauty whenever it is posted>makes the middest looking modded white woman ever
>>564088287Twilight domain which selune does have would give her clerics moonbeam, but call lightning can serve as a substitute. All surface races being baldurians and all drow living in the underdark gets a bit annoying, there should be a non-baldurian surface tag. My drow monk was born on the surface and only been in the Underdark as an adult with a few Eilistraeean expeditions.
>be bestiality bro>spam the same pictures of the gay bear and shadowheart every threadWhy does he do this? Is he Indian?
>>564216417don't give him attention just filter the pics & key words
>"He never posts screenshots of his playthroughs! It's unclear whether he even played the game!">"Actually, he's this random faggot that made particularly ugly Tavs, and I have this screenshot as evidence!It is defined by hypocrisy. But how could I possibly be Mintharafag, Untitledanon, Ilmatari's creator, and the aforementioned ugly Tav faggot all at the same time?https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/%22what%20is%20it%20about%20beauty%20that%20scares%20you%20so%20much%22/order/asc/Interesting that I would start using this catchphrase to reply to "myself." The shitposter's narrative is as ever-changing as the weather in April. To hold consistent standards and principles would risk them being challenged. Better to lie, slander, deflect, and play both sides, all while hiding behind "anonymity." BG3 is simultaneously the "Lord of the Rings of video games" and also rushed, poorly written, pretty mediocre if you think about it. Astarion was simultaneously prostituted for nearly two hundred years and also never sexually abused. And those who look down on cheaters must simultaneously be cheaters themselves and have never played the game.
>>564217371
>>564217371What a handsome woman. Name three things you like about her.
>>564217371Which mental illness is this?
>>564220267she took the wyllpill
>>564220425same as>>564079557
>>564220267Do not cite the Deep Magic to me, bitch. I was there when it was written.
>>564217371Mantharafag will never fuck you
>>564220521let him cook
Two characters and two summons were enough to save everyone. It was a good feeling compared to only getting maybe half that solo.Too bad I saved them for nothing as I am going to kill Gortash before taking out his Steel Watch.
>>564186929
>>564220425Autism has to be in the mix.
>>564194636Please tell me this is a mod. I'd love to have Shlomo Gortash in my runs so I can feel even better about beating the everliving fuck out of him
>>564225292who are the jews of dnd
>>564225292It's ai you mongoloid
>>564227459Absolutely disgusting.That said, BG3 could have used cursed items. The only one I'm aware of is the Necromancy of Thay.
>>564228283Some cool thematic cursed items that do interesting things. But I don't think the modern D&D player understands the nuance of drawbacks to items.
Act 3 pro-Orpheus Lae'zel by the way, after all of her character development.
>wow alien space raiders are like...alien space raiders? no way dude
>>564232543what character development lmaoing
>>564232725The githyanki truly are an irredeemable evil race and every one of them should be executed on sight.
>>564232923same for sharrans right?
>>564233005Of course, and vampires and drow too.
>>564233005>>564233051And Thiefling are literally demons so you should kill them on sight too.
>>564232923>>564233005>>564233051>>564233687all correct but also kill warlocks
>>564233687They're demon blooded, not true demons. But I agree with the sentiment.>>564233743>people who willingly consort with the profaneAgreed as well.Maybe not Faetouched Warlocks, it depends on who their patron is.
>>564233950>demon bloodedSo demons
>>564234078They're more like mutts, so I guess kind of?
imagine being a moralfag AND a chud
imagine playing as or with an evil racegonna hit you with 5d8 radiant damage to the face
>>564233743>/bgg/- no fun allowed
What would a 4 man party with all four Paladins look like? Would you constantly be breaking each others' Oaths?
>>564175824He almost TPKd me my first honour run it was VERY kino
>>564235003>you must consort with evil in order to have fun
>>564228283I can imagine the mouth breathers making endless "why come my tiefling/drow tav have negative stats??" threads
>>564175824The Cloaker is kino; what are you on about?
>>564175824>>564237114>go the wrong direction>then go off path in order to trigger the encounter>all to get nothingkino
>>564237371>nothingExperience is the only reward I need.
>>564237371the battle is what you get dummy
I think for my next run I'm going to use the PHB mod and actually play a moralfag character where I kill anyone that's considered "evil", but only when my character learns that they are evil (eg. staking Astarion or killing Shart after she reveals she is a Sharran). For my MC I will be using genderbent Wyll because this way the fact she doesn't have voice lines won't be a negative.
>>564237868Sounds horrendous
>>564237868>bound to a devil's pactevil
>>564237948She's going to have a change of heart and become an Oath of Devotion Paladin while seeking a way to break the pact. Sadly the list of available companions for a true good playthrough is very short. There's Gale, and... Jaheira and Minsc?>what about KarlachShe's clearly a devil, female Wyll is going to kill her.
>>564238438Whoops, meant for >>564238036
>>564238438She's not a devil though, you pedantic nitpickers should devil is its own race in dnd. You already failed your "morality" run
>>564238438>Gale, Jaheira, Minscsounds like a good party (hehe) if not for the fact that you get the latter two so lateis using withers' sockpuppets a morally neutral act?
>>564238660she's not a devil but she also isn't good so she can die
>>564238660Clearly she's a devil or half-devil, why else would Mizora send me (female Wyll) after her. She made that contract with Mizora to hunt evil people not innocents, silly anon. >>564238689That's a good question, actually. He assures us they fight with us willingly but you can't really know if you can trust him unless you have a Paladin or a Cleric who can sense his divine aura when meeting him.
evil for consuming soul coins
>>564238913She is good though. I know this place has a raging hate boner for Karlach but she and Wyll are the good main companions. >muh soulcoinsI hate you autists so much. A good-aligned character can be flawed and do shitty things.
>>564239332she served ten years in the blood war and was Gortash's muscle>I was just following orders!!nuremburg trials>A good aligned character can be flawed and do shitty things.within reasonliking cats and dogs, being wholesome, and demanding to hear out the slavers doesn't make you good
>>564239332Strictly speaking the game sets it up so that it can go either way when Karlach meets Wyll.>wiki informationI am playing by what appears in-game, I said already that I'm not killing Astarion until he reveals himself nor will I kill Shadowheart until she reveals she is a Sharran. When the two meet it's basically a 50:50 - do you trust a (seeming) devil's words or do you accept that Mizora may have found a way around your contract's intended purpose?
>>564239552Let me guess you love Laezel and Minthara.>>564239570I was not talking to you autsimolord
>>564239697>Let me guess you love Laezel and Minthara.you guessed incorrectlyi'm indifferent to lae'zel (and she isn't good) and i actively dislike minthara
>>564239570Meant to ask do you condemn (not trust, whoopsie) a(n alleged) devil's words, or question whether Mizora had found a loophole.
>>564239697Forgive me, I'll allow you to shitpost in peace instead. I thought you were someone willing to discuss the game or playthroughs of it. I will not make that assumption of Karlach posters again.
>>564239763Sureeee
>>564239936yes, suredo you have anything else to say or are you going to insist i'm toadcel because i slandered your golden calf
>>564240012Not my golden calf just tired of this place acting like Karlach is Hitler for not behaving like a perfect saint. Because being good means you must have 0 flaws, right toadchuddy?
>>564240243>Karlach is Hitlerironic given the use of the nuremburg defense"this place" acts like karlach isn't a good character because she's poorly written, not usually for moral reasons"this place" also isn't one person despite what you want to believe calling anyone who disagrees with you toadcel
>>564240434Yes Karlach is chaotic evil tiefling Hitler for working for Gortash, being forced into the Blood War, the Forge slavers, having a temper, lashing out, and being quirky. Who is well-written then?
>PHB mod>humans can start with a featI thought this was considered a feature of variant humans. Is this how they implemented that or am I in for more surprises with the new 5.5e rules?
>>564240712>Yes Karlach is chaotic evil tiefling Hitler for working for Gortash, being forced into the Blood War, the Forge slavers, having a temper, lashing out, and being quirky."I was just following orders!">Who is well-written?out of the origins with some quirks for each: Shadowheart, Astarion, Gale, Lae'zel
>>564240957Also does anyone know if the 5.5e mod uses d20 initiative or do I need a different mod for that?
anyone who says gale is a good character is someone i can agree with
Game facts according to the geniuses at /bgg/:Gale: He's the second strongest wizard in the whole universe. Shart: Chaotic evilKarlach: Chaotic evilAstarion: Chaotic evil Halsin: Chaotic evil Wyll: doesn't exist
uh oh melty
>>564241830Astarion... is actually chaotic evil, isn't he. That, or neutral evil.
>>564241963i mean if we're going by the wiki like >>564239332 then he's NEyou might be able to make a case for CE?
>>564242139Where on the spectrum are you
>>564242139I mean I guess neutral fits more. His evil does have rhyme/reason behind it but it's not lawfag evil the way devils enforce. If anything Durge indulging his bloodline is probably the true CE rep-- or is he LE? I mean, compared to Orin...
>>564242291?
>lets go hurt someone> His evil does have rhyme/reason behind itanon please
>>564242403That's just a fun voice line. His actions are all self-serving. It's not like he has a code or rules the way lawfags do, but he definitely isn't the kind of insane monster a full-on no-holding-back CE character like Orin would be. So NE fits more than the other options.
newfag autistmo and toadcel back to back icking rn
I am physically incapable of playing this game as anything but bhaalspawn, why does the "non dark urge tav" option even exist?
>>564082997Built for cleric of selûne futa cock
>>564244284t. nyl
>>564242403Astarion is randumbly evil so CE has a good case made for it. If Marcus attacks the Last Light and you don't take his side Astarion dislikes it a lot, even more than forcing him to bite Araj, despite Marcus being some random cultist guy no one in the party has never seen before.
Sigh
>healing spells are actually decent in the 5.5e mod>even the bonus action spellI am liking 2024/2025 DnD.
using pov memes incorrectly gotta be considered a disability at this point
>>564252625Mod removes the long face I guess?
>>564242262>tradfrog Can she cook?
>>564239193Soul coins are damned people like Raphael's debtors, putting them out of their misery is the best thing anyone can do for them.
Evil character #1 is dead. I killed her back on the Nautiloid and took her stuff, so when I looted her again this time she lost all her clothes.#2 is marked for death, #3 and #4 get to live until they show their true colours. The young tieflings were grateful that I helped keep them safe. All in a day's work for a good aligned character.
Mizora keeps soul coins as lube.
That's rather glib of her to say.Though why can't Larian keep themselves from having their VAs shit on wizards...
>>564255648A good character would just leave Gale in the stone.
>>564256057is this what millenials find funny
>>564256138no, it looks more masculine than the average zoomer
>>564256138no, that'd be pic related
>>564255897Gale has been nothing but pleasant from the moment I met him. I plan to be a Devotion Paladin, COMPASSION is key. Why would you leave someone in a stone to suffer? That's not good.
>>564256241Literally me
>the average zoomer out of nowhere
>>564256276Wizards are known liars and manipulators.
>>564256770That sounds like slander. Wizards are the same as you or I. They can be uppity but that doesn't make them evil.
>>564257252Wizards to things to increase their own status and power without care for the consequences to others. This is why they must die.
>>564257417Wizadry is a learned vocation, how it's used depends on the user. People across a great many races can be wizards and so it comes down to the user. So far Gale has been perfectly pleasant. Until such time that he shows my trust in him is misplaced I shall continue to treat him as innocent until proven guilty, as I do with Shadowheart and Astarion. From a meta perspective I know that those two will eventually betray me, reveal their evil allegiances and so must be put to the sword, but until they do they deserve to be given a chance.
>>564257751Gale's hunger for power made him a walking WMD that you can't even kill without risking everyone around. Luckily you don't have to use meta knowledge to justifiably leave him in the stone where he can't harm anyone as the narration notes you recognize the rift looks dangerous.
Shaddy why... Why did your yearning have to be hard-coded for "H"if only I could have been enough for youShaddy...
>>564257942But a budding Paladin of Devotion would not leave him to suffer. Compassion is one of the core tenants of the oath and even if I haven't taken it yet by the time I meet him, I couldn't take that Oath in good conscience knowing that I left a man to suffer, potentially even disappear. All he asks for is a hand, someone to pull him out. A common citizen probably wouldn't be expected to risk themselves like that but as a Paladin I'd be heartless to just ignore a cry for help.
Halsin should have been the only player avatar in BG3
>>564258270>I forgot Halsin existedOh shit, a third good aligned party member. Oh happy day.What's your reason for wanting him to be the only PC?
>>564258245A truly good person would have taken the oath before the adventure, and trust their instinct in not even touching the rift to listen some emotional manipulation. Someone who was paladin material would also have smited Astarion when he lies to you, pulls a knife on you and gets excited about the tadpole without keeping him around. Most DM's wouldn't let such a person take Oath of Devotion.
>>564238438>Sadly the list of available companions for a true good playthrough is very short. There's Gale (...)Please. Gale is only "moral" so long as it's convenient. But goodness is not merely the absence of evil. An early litmus test for a companion's moral compass is their reaction to the decision to slaughter the grove. Karlach and the non-character are undeniably good - a reminder that alignment does not automatically grant characterhood - so they firmly oppose this act of evil. Gale goes along with it. He only shows remorse at the celebration, but that is too little, too late. This is not even taking into account his later fixation on the Crown of Karsus, which is indisputable moral recklessness and hubris. Of course, you could argue that none of this is relevant to your roleplaying, since you already said you wouldn't rely on metagaming. Kill them only when they're proven to be evil, right? It's just rather ironic that this logic would exempt the wizard from any scrutiny. Ask yourself whether he would apply such black-and-white reasoning were he in charge. A Sharran amidst our group? Blimey.
>>564258824Halsin also attacks your camp if you raid the grove, so there are three good characters.Of course if you extend the definition of goodness to not being influenced by Hells physically or magically, Halsin, Minsc and Jaheira become the only good companions in the game.
Gale would love the DOS2 elves & lizards, he's freaky enough to enjoy illithid tav
>>564258435Sadly the campaign starts me off at level 1 so I don't have a choice. The oath (tied to the subclass) will be a lifelong commitment which is why I can't take it right away. But as a Devotion hopeful, I believe people deserve a second chance if they are willing. >excited about the tadpole I actually questioned the tadpole thing and he said that he naturally wants it gone but is desperate for whatever advantage he can get while he's stuck with it. It's a concerning line of thought but by itself it's not really something to fight over. It's his opinion and he's entitled to it even if I don't agree. But it will count against him when he reveals his true colours. An evil aligned monster, who made comments about lusting for power and was fine with attacking people when it suited him.. at that point it will be clear that he's an irredeemable monster. I can't fix him.
>>564259164He already revealed his true colours when he lied to you and pulled the knife on you. You didn't smite him on the beach, you might as well let him bite you.
>>564258976>a good character attacks you after you've done a clearly evil actstop the presses
Is there a god in DnD for people who want to remove even the potential of evil from the universe by smiting everyone?
>>564259252All I saw was a man who thought I was a thrall to mind flayers attack, potentially out of fear. He drops his weapon once he sees he was mistaken. He did jump the gun with that assumption but that's still not enough to call him irredeemably evil.
>>564259418Sounds like you want Tempus, the god of war. Solving issues through combat is basically his thing. Plus he's not just about pure fighting but proper, justified honourable combat. Your justification being the eradication of evil in any and all forms.
>>564259529He didn't truly think or even care if you were a thrall, if he did he would not have tried to lure you into attacking intellect devourers which are thralls of mind flayers themselves, and them when hearing about the tadpole he gets excited about its powers. This is ample information for a good person to act and cleave him in two instead of dithering, or perhaps metagaming would be a better word.
>>564259667Tempus' dogma doesn't lend itself to smiting noncombatants though.
kot
>>564259728His dialogue says he "saw you with those things on the ship", which is why he attacked hoping to learn something. The conversation with him shows he thought you were in league with the illithids. Upon reexamining the dialogue it's not quite that he thought I was a thrall, but that I may have been allied with them (dominated, perhaps).>ample informationMaybe for a more violent class, but Devotion's description in BG3 literally says "show clemency when prudent". I went through his dialogue and if I take him at his word, there's nothing that justifies killing him. >why take him at his wordAs I said, he was in a vulnerable position and thought I was dangerous. Once everything is sorted out, the situation defuses itself and he becomes amicable. And as I've said, his behaviour while disconcerting to a degree is not outright evil. He's spouting words at a time when we don't even know if the parasites will give us powers. Normally they just turn you into an illithid while making you awfully sick. Being an asshole is not a reason to kill someone.
>>564260454>you can't befriend the gith catsadfrog.jpg
>>564259894Oh, you were looking to smite noncombatants? I thought it was a "find people you think are evil, accuse them then challenge them to single combat" thing. The problem is that free-range killing and smiting everyone who shows even the potential to turn evil don't exactly go hand in hand.
>>564260524He was manipulating you just like he does in his romance proposal. If he truly thought you were an ally of the mind flayers his approach would not have been to ask you to attack allies of mind flayers and then pull a knife on you when he sees you comply, and he is the most excited of all origin companions about the powers of the tadpole to boot which means his "fear" of mind flayer thralls he shows in manipulating you is just that. A prospective paladin has all the reasons to judge the man as a manipulative criminal and end him there, anyone who doesn't is metagaming or too gullible to be a paladin.
>>564260751>The problem is that free-range killing and smiting everyone who shows even the potential to turn evil don't exactly go hand in hand.They could go hand in hand assuming people hide their potential for evil or are not aware of it. This kind of character would be thought of as evil by many others but obviously wouldn't worship Bhaal.
>>564260845To me that explanation is full of cynicism, which isn't the kind of character I'm playing. I already explained how I as my character interpreted the scenes, and your response is to say "stop being so gullible". You're free to play your own character how you wish but I picked Devotion for a reason, the idea is to be as helpful as possible without being judgemental and only eradicate those who are shown to be evil either through nature (ie. being an evil race) or nurture (ie. definitive evil actions like murder, theft, etc). I pick compassion over suspicion every time the same way I do in real life.
>>564261071Bhaal is an evil god but he only cares about death, not the who or why, which funnily enough may make him an apt choice if you're looking to kill first and ask questions later.
>>564261292You're justifying metagaming by staying reactive or willingly gullible (both uncharacteristic for a warrior of good who gets magic powers from his resolve) even when all the signs are before you. You do you but that's not who most DM's would allow to be a paladin.
>>564261602>all of the signsAgain, for a cynic sure.You can call it metagaming because you don't like it but how I roleplay isn't defined by you. I have actually played this kind of Paladin before so don't go saying "the DM won't let you" because when I play these kinds of characters they do in fact let me.
>>564261587It is said of Shar and Bhaal that they only care about death or oblivion, but they also aim to spread their evil followers and expand their cults which would make them unsuitable to worship by a "must kill everyone because they or their future children may become evil" type unless they're disguised to this character somehow.
>play the game how i say it should be playedno one likes a rules lawyer especially for a subjective topic
>>564261819It's not for "a cynic" to judge someone who lies to you to get into a position to threaten you and then gets excited about powers from brain eating monster larva he just claimed to be scared about. It's for a good and devoted person.
>>564262019It is cynical to assume that people who take actions from a position of (alleged) fear have no justification for doing so or simply do it because they are evil. They seem inconsistent because of your own biases. I already explained how I saw it (for the record this is how I saw him on my very first playthrough of this game, so I know it's my organic reaction outside of RP) but you refuse to accept it because it goes against your own viewpoint.
>>564262120if half orcs weren't muscle mommies id hit that so hard
>>564262120me with my wife
>>564262282On my first playthrough I flagged Astarion as an evil schemer immediately after the first encounter, certainly not acting out of fear because of his positive response to the tadpole and annoyance when I insisted we needed to get rid of it. Later events confirmed it was the correct assessment and not false because of bias or gullibility. If I had RP'd a paladin I would have killed him there, however I played a GOO warlock who wouldn't care about that and would instead try to make use of him.
>>564263868And there it is. It's a fundamental difference in personality (aka personal biases), clearly you aren't the type to give people chances. I am. That's all it is. I looked at the situation and said he's acting like a cornered animal, who finally let his guard down after the tadpole linked the two of you. At first glance he's not good but he's not outright evil either. I'm choosing to give him that chance to see whether or not he is someone worth my trust. If I get burned, so be it. But my character will never stop being that person who gives others that chance.
Forgot to ask if you were the same person who said all wizards should be killed on sight because if so that would explain SO much and also save me the time of trying to get you to see things from my character's POV.
>>564264162This is a roleplaying game. If I RP'd a paladin I wouldn't give an obvious violent manipulator a chance even in a life or death situation. It's not my IRL personality but the kind of personality expected from a paladin.
>>564258824>An early litmus test for a companion's moral compass is their reaction to the decision to slaughter the groveno one does anything if you murder isobel and doom last light inn. they'll even help you murder her. there are no good characters in this game
>>564264683game's rushed
>>564264683Tav is simultaneously the most heroic but also villainous character in the entire game.
>>564264919Orin*
>>564264683Kind of true, Wyll ultimately should not have made that pact with Mizora. It's better to trust fate and rely on the forces of good to retaliate against the Cult of the Dragon than to pact himself to a devil and become a pawn in infernal affairs.
>>564079467Agree. Also, Sazza should have been a companion. Way more interesting as a character than the gay bear and the manthara.
>>564269290I love sazza, having a literal chaotic goblin in your party would have been hilarious
Goblins belong in cages.
>>564270062in party full of vampires, sharrans, drows and githyankis a goblin would fit right in
>>564270402Evil is not a happy family of evil characters plotting together, the sharran and the githyanki need a babysitter to not kill each other and every one of them thinks of goblins as vermin (in Astarion's case he thinks all short races are). Gale and Karlach would probably be the only companions who'd tolerate a goblin.
>>564270714>oh no not drama and character infighting in my dnd party yuckybro in any other party, astarion would have been killed on sight, gale would have never been allowed anywhere near them and shadowheart would have been forced to leave, no I don't see it, the party can literally have a party among goblins
>>564271027an evil party could have a sharran and a vampire while still considering a goblin to be not a real member but the equivalent of Shovel or just too disgusting and annoying to have in camp.
>fuckin ugly ass illithid starts flirting heavily with me and wants to bangNever thought it would reach such level of cringe. I am so going to kill this abomination as soon as I have the option now
Wyll saved baldurs gate and nobody cares...
>>564272869so you don't want to evolve?
>>564273082I'll make takoyaki out of him.
>>564273658looks like he must now join the netherbrain, too bad you had to be irrational and not have sex with him and become illithid
>>564262120Gale and his wife
Skoona...
>>564277578
>>564277578*smooch*
take the Wyllpill
https://youtu.be/e4GWFAnNVv4?si=_AY4eyeazbI87unO
>>564272869Yeah, that was omegacringe. Should have let us bang Orin instead. Also I told him I didn't believe his lies and he immediately chimped out and told me what really happened with the Duke and kept going on and on about how I'm his puppet and will do whatever he wants and then after that kept acting like we were friends.
>>564278885please no H, not againshe's... supposed to be mine... please
what does goodberry pie taste like?
I'm only interested in Kagha's goodberry
>>564280417His release top is so ugly, miss the EA one
>>564254063of course
>>564282946but what if I were to play as a female character...
>>564283208Women aren't interested in a harem romance with 2 sisters.
I don't understand mods in this game. Let's say I play my modded game during "day A", ok? Then, when I boot my game during "day B", suddenly I can't launch the game anymore. It unchecks all the mods by itself and when I try to load my save, activating the mods that worked totally fine during "day A", it just doesn't load.What is this shit? And it's not like I use shit tons of mods or complicated modifications. Mostly just cosmetics, a couple of dices, and the "weightless gold" mod.
>>564283208They will romance you in a lesbian threesome.
>>564279795Why?
>>564282946It would believe it if it was Owlcat since they did that already. But Larian? Nah. Instead they will probably give you some gay ass buff dude that wants to sodomize you because you shook his hand once
>>564284124>Nah. Instead they will probably give you some gay ass buff dude that wants to sodomize you because you shook his hand oncehot
>>564284124Having sex with women is gay, so that sounds extremely based.
>>564284124Swen is my uncle, I talked to him and he promised me that Divinity will be based this time around. Trust the plan.
bg3 had a twink and a bear(haha) which means that divinity will get a butch lesbian and a femboy
>>564284810Based on gay sex, yeah
>>564225580Best guess would be goblins but they seem more English than Jewish. In BG3 I'd say Gerringothe is very Jewish>>564226730A Man can dream
Daddy H is the Bull AND the Bear
The janny is a fag lmao
>>564255328certified ghaik post
>>564288495gay incest is where they draw the line , regular incest is A ok
