I don't care how bad you are. It is NEVER an excuse to throw a massive tantrum in our general

sloppa general

Darktide is very chinese coded.

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>the "true survivor" from last threads ousted himself
oh no no no

recently picked up SM2 in the sale to play with friends
how do I not get buttfucked if I accidentally get cornered or if I have more than two or three aggressive enemies on me at once

>>564128426
>she's still seething
Leave your anger and your shit soiled diaper in the old thread

>>564128426
>he's good enough to get true survivor and you aren't
I can't image how much that must trigger you.

>>564128610
>>564128795
hows it feel to eat shit in the first room with randos browngroid

>>564128426
you fucking owned that retard

>>564128426
>mentally ill retard is a hard carried psyker who can't get TS because he keeps blowing himself up
I'm giggling

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>>564129228
kek

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>>564128595
roll like sonic the hedgehog out of there.
Or
Parry at the appropriate time. It takes some time to learn the parry window for both your weapon and the enemy attack. Note: The parry/dodge indicator circle is not actually sync'd to the enemy attack animation, you need to manually gauge your parries/dodges. Also hope it contextually locks to the enemy you actually want to parry and not something else.

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Can someone explain how and why ‘holding the line’ became so ubquitious within 40k? It’s practically a second tagline. I like it, but like, what’s the history behind it specifically?

>>564129104
spoken from the spectator screen lmfsofaml

>>564129228
Just walkin' ma dawg.

>>564129426
What the fuck is that grammar, man
Stop posting this slop

>>564128924
>hows it feel to eat shit in the first room
No idea. He's still better than you, you know that, right?

>>564129826
>if you die first you're the best
keep coping brown iqlet

>>564130005
He has still managed to keep himself abd his team alive at least once. You have never gone a single mission without dying or failing your team

>>564130005
>instantly replies
I don't have any skin in this retarded game but this either proves that you weren't good enough to prevent a wipe, or you're actively dragging your team down by shitposting on 4chan.

>>564130137
>>564130192
lmaoing @ ur shitter cope

>>564130137
>>564130192
holy shit the malicelet turboseethe is real
must really fucking hurt being so brown

Why couldn't you faggots keep this in the previous thread?

Looks like that struck a nerve.

>>564130417
the true shitter got his feelings hurt being confronted with the uncomfortable truth and he cant let it go

>>564100840

Why did you close the game? Open it back up again.

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>>564130474
>everyone I don't like is the same person

i want an excuse to play arbitrator but ive already played the unique weapons to death and theres no new cosmetics so i dont even fucking bother

>>564130329
>>564130330
You came in here with a diaper full of shit and a beet-red face and now you're attacking anyone who points out how much of an unhinged shitter you are

BTW i bet you have already gone down at least 3 times now

>>564130474
You're both ugly shitters.
Keep it in the old thread so I don't have to listen to your caterwauling.

>>564130879
>>564130976
i can feel the steam fuming from empty boiling skull
keep trying you'll get out of the 20s trench one day

>>564131026
It sucks to die, but at least it gave you time to make this seething reply lmfao

>>564131026
I don't play Darktide, numbnuts.
I just want you idiots to stop polluting this thread with your schizo drivel and scaring off the real coopg posters (aka. ratclickGODS).

You and your buttbuddy should either go back to the old thread and have it out there, or go ERP in a Discord or something. I don't care. As long as both of you stay out.

>>564131648
You too. Fuck off to the other thread.

>>564131648
project some more

>>564131648
>>564131949
You just cock-smacked that bitch. One from each side at the same time

>>564132065
You think i'm projecting my own level of skill unto you? You fucking wish, survivorlet

>>564130662
>i want an excuse to play arbitrator
Why do you need an excuse to play the best class at doing objectives that doesn't require you to use a meme ability to achieve that? Infinite toughness and nigh unconditional stun immunity is one of the bigger reasons it's the best class in modes where your shitters are prone to spending 5 minutes farming spawn doors before so much as looking as the objective (aka auric).

>>564132063
Grow up

>>564132328
Sounds like the perfect class for a certain survivorlet

Oh my God, it's Kiddieland!

>>564133192
Holy shit! Do NOT search that on the dark web!

>>564129632
But it’s cute :(

>>564131949
>ratclickGODS
Those are all extinct anon

>>564134046
They live on in furaffinity, deviant art and /twg/

qrd on the havoc rework?
did they say anything about what they are going to change?

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>>564127103
Hello I have been using a vertical mouse for a long time on Darktide.
I plan to switch to a regular mouse to shake things up.

What wired mice recommendations do you lads recommend me buy?
>Bonus points if a pic with written timestamp is included.

>>564132104
>>564133140
lmao he just tore your throat open and took a shit down it OOF

>>564134689
This post is extremely low quality

>>564134651
How do you even grab that thing?

>>564135298
with my giant gorilla hand

>>564135298
Let’s ask your dad

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In the Beneficent Emperor's Name

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>>564134651
Logitech G600. It went out of production in most places a while ago, only Japan still manufactured them when I decided to import a backup, hence the JP Logicool branding.
My previous one lasted me some 5 years, but I couldn't find replacement parts so I just bought a new one when that one broke. I currently technically have 4 of the things, so with swapping parts around in case something breaks, I should be fine for a long-ass time.
>pros
Reasonable size, all the buttons you could ever want, programmable, sensor seems to work fine on most surfaces even if you aren't a clean freak
>cons
Some retard thought it was a good idea to put metal plates in the thing to weigh it down, and opening it up requires removing the glide pads to get at the screws, and the factory pads really don't like being removed and it probably ruins them, so if you want to remove the weights, you'll also need replacement feet.
The new logitech software is borderline unusable slop. The old LCore software is deprecated, doesn't scale with modern resolutions, and wants you to jump through hoops to get it running on modern windows.
Doesn't have a free-spinning wheel, which can be a major selling point. Recommend programming a macro to spam those inputs instead.
Probably expensive to buy. Wouldn't recommend buying used either, as the thumb buttons can get a little spongy. Logitech has historically had atrocious middle mouse click that completely rapes the wheel in very few clicks, which can be a deal breaker. The ring-finger button is my middle mouse replacement, I basically never click the wheel anymore.
>this all sounds highly autistic
Yes.

>>564135815
I like the weight.

>>564134651
I just hate it when i sit on my desk and this thing accidentally slides up between my cheeks

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This fucking retard just cost another run
>smoke grenades for rotten fucking armor
>no keystones
Too bad i accepted the mission before inspecting him
Apparently i'm the only one who actually inspects people before accepting them

>>564135951
>no true survivor
Typical shitter

>>564136339
you dont have it either though

>>564135949
How often does that happen “accidentally”

>>564136419
You really wish this was true, don't you?

>>564136551
It's actually not that hard to obtain, i even got it with randos. just go on the official d*scord or something and ask for a little handholding

>>564136639
>It's actually not that hard to obtain, i even got it with randos
NTA and same for the latter, it's really not a big deal for anyone that regularly plays 40s, but you fucking bet it ain't easy for the typical shitters struggling to reach 40 even once.

>>564136639
This poster tried it >>564128426 but it was impossible to keep him alive

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>>564136902
you're really not very bright are you

>>564136454
Very rarely. Only once or twice a month.

>>564136936
Why exactly do you think that matters? You still got dunked on and just admitted that any shitter can get true survivor except you

>>564137053
Ouch. You must be almost as butthurt as the survivorlet tranny

>>564135951
was he using the recon lasgun?
I've seen a few recon builds that don't use any keystones

>>564137228
seethe harder

>>564137658
Why would the fact that i'm better than you and just destroyed you make me seethe?

>>564137549
yea he was, still i dont get why you would trade marksmans focus for some retarded shit like fucking reload speed on lasgun

>>564137818
dude you got bitchslapped like a little bitch, own up to it

>>564132328
>use a meme ability
wake up its not 2024
builds that use stealth can actually be good now, and im not referring to thunderhammer

>>564137912
because marksmans focus gives finesse damage and recon has absolute fucking dogshit finesse? its scaling off of almost nothing man it just doesnt work for that gun

>>564138048
i meant focus target but yeah, he was still completely fucking retarded and died to the first crusher overhead in the match

>>564137947
>builds that use stealth can actually be good now,
I'm aware, I'm a bigger proponent for vet and zealot stealth than most. Doesn't mean anyone knows how to properly play those abilities, which automatically makes them meme-tier in the hands of the average retard. Also doesn't mean they're even remotely comparable to the actually good abilities anyway. Zealot one-shotting things with RB is cool and novel, but thoroughly unnecessary, and the benefit of doing objectives unmolested should practically be completely outdone by chorus doing the same thing for someone else. Veteran getting to do half the objectives in the game for free is nice, but playing vet with deadweight pubshitters and not having shout is borderline torture. Doable, but you really do just have to try 3x as hard, no thanks. Real nice in specific maps though.

>>564138147
I mean I guess, but I can understand also not running it, i know I wouldn't. I absolutely cannot stand using that keystone, so I just don't. Not saying it's bad, its far from it, but sometimes you just really really dont like being the one using a thing and for me and some others, thats focus target

>>564137912
>bitchslapped like a little bitch
You tried, but your arms couldn't reach my face when i was clapping your shit colored ass cheeks

>>564138418
yeah its one of the reasons i dont like playing vet, i fucking hate constantly pinging shit i wanna kill to be at 100% but i also dont join h40 lobbies with it to ruin peoples runs

>>564138507
*drops a giant log of shit on your face*
damn that felt good

>>564138563
Luckily, there's plenty of fun builds he can get that actually play into the keystones and still have a place in havoc
Shovel and double barrel forcing infinite cleave shots that proc bleed is a damage powerhouse and a good generalist build, and mmf helbore on exe stance is probably the best dedicated ranged build for vet in havoc, its really underestimated.
Neither do better (or even function) with focus target so theyre perfect for me

>>564138563
Woah there, boy. Don't go shitting all over my dick. You know i'll just make you suck it all off when i'm finished

>>564138903
you got a link to that shovel x double barrel build? ive been running bolter x duelling sword build that FuPlayyz uses and doing okay but not great

>>564139558
i had a version like this but a guy on the darktide discord posted this one which i ended up changing to, just a few talent shifts vs what i had before
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fad575e-f27e-44fc-bd9f-f62dd7ed4001/how-to-have-fun

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>>564141575
Curbstompable malformed retard skull

>>564141575
Holy fucking retard

>>564138903
>mmf helbore on exe stance
Masochism. The boltgun's crit & weakspot damage is only slightly smaller. If that's a dealbreaker to you then you can always put deadly accurate on the bistol.

>>564141575
thanks. i'm a bottom and i was looking for a build that screams "carry-me-harder-daddy" and i think i just found it

Fatshark, please give us some news and save these threads from indian autism.

>>564141889
not like it cant be changed
drop a grenade node, toughness node, or elite damage, doesnt break the build
>>564142392
helbore however has functionally infinite ammo and mag size cuz of surgical and shock trooper, and is still 2 shotting crushers in havoc 40 and one shotting everything else, no idea what to tell you if you think thats bad

>>564143481
>and is still 2 shotting crushers in havoc 40
Why are you shooting crushers?
Throw a krak and shoot specials.

>>564142525
oh wow is that the first 2 results on youtube when searching "double barrel shovel" this style of build topping damage by a large margin in havoc 40?
i wonder what that means
https://youtu.be/u1TPxeSgUCc?si=XiHgoQ5UobbGh3GG&t=3158
https://youtu.be/AK8WZPvSO_s?si=0pW4RAyHaXt8VEKc&t=2480

>>564143727
Those are good players. People like you should stick to something else

>>564143727
>cherry picked discordtroon premade build showcases
>they don't show you the 30 wipes it took to reroll perfect director RNG
Not clicking your links or giving them views, not poisoning my algorithm.
>needing to follow someone else's build
Not invited to my h40

>>564143557
>ranged build that can deal with armor easily with an infinite ammo gun
>thinks the build runs kraks
lol

>>564143870
Not a lot of monster spawns in your malice matches?

>>564144101
>implying you need kraks for monsters
Absolute fucking retard

>>564143820
>Not invited to my h40
not joining if youre going to make me run plasma and duelling sword, so you dont need to worry about that, ill win in some other lobbies thanks
>>564143778
i get pretty similar results because as it turns out infinite cleave dot spreading ranged weapon is pretty strong (i think theres another weapon thats considered good for this reason) but thanks for the attempt

i always have such a fun time visiting this zoo, you guys are funny

>>564144256
>not joining if youre going to make me run plasma and duelling sword,
>deflecting to the hallmark useless retard shitter build
kek
>ill win
Dream on, faggot

>>564144165
>implying you need frags for anything
This is why we decline you

>>564144379
>>>>implying frags
Smokes are vet's best grenade, kraks are only considered meta because shitters like (You) exist.
Cue the melty about how smokes are le bad because non-whites are incapable of doing science.

>>564144256
>i get pretty similar results
I noticed that you had to post someone else's match because you yourself aren't good enough

>>564144462
>she needs smokes to make up for her inability to kill gunners and specials
Crazy how you just admitted this to me

>>564144589
brown hands typed this post

I want to be pinned down and mating pressed within an inch of my life, coop games for this feel?

>>564144645
Darktide, try this build >>564141575

>>564144505
because i dont record full games? its really not that hard to understand
i could post scoreboards but no one cares about those
and the initial point was "this build is good" so i pulled up videos of the build being good because i dont record my gameplay

actually why am i wasting my time here this is the same place that says IJ is dogshit without explanation i forgot that yall cant think so why should i care about what you guys say lmfao

>>564144615
All of your posts should include this line like a "Locally Made" sticker

>>564141889
>bleed node
Every time!

>>564144712
>this build is good
This has been debunked
>>564144816
Holy shit. Is every retarded poster just you?

>>564144964
>Is every retarded poster just you?
Obviously NTA but does it matter? Lowercasegroids post such worthless dogshit that I unironically considered just filtering non-capitalized posts wholesale. The sub-80 IQ practically radiates from the way they type.

>>564144816
Why does the fact that you have retarded opinions reflect poorly on this general that always corrects you?

>>564145103
Truke. You would never have to see the survivorlet and IJtard's retarded posts again

>>564144964
>This has been debunked
you haven't even tried it, what exactly has been debunked? if good players are able to excel with it (regardless what you think of me), then maybe there actually is something to it?
>Holy shit. Is every retarded poster just you?
yeah im the guy who comes in every now and again and says such insane things like "dodge buffs are good" and "infinite cleave is strong" and get called a retard instead of anyone actually attempting to refute or disprove anything im saying
>>564145137
because i consistently am proven right in gameplay, something none of you actually bother to attempt
i consistently go into public havocs and outperform others with "bad builds" based on "retarded opinions", so maybe they arent so bad and retarded after all if im as terrible as you think i am?
>>564145297
the circlejerking over titles though is really funny, the titles really dont matter. anyone can clear havoc 40 with the meta shit, anyone can be carried through a true survivor, ive done it for a few people before. theyre very rarely a good indicator of player skill similarly to true level and are more just an indicator of how much time theyve wasted in this game

>>564145620
Didn't ask for your life story, shitter. Keep it short or keep it to yourself

>>564145674
if you killed yourself you wouldn't have to read my reply to you
consider it next time

>>564145779
Lol. I can tell that struck a nerve

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i leik videgaem!!!!

>>564146057
im just meeting you where youre at, finally
just typing shit

>>564146179
How dare you?!

>>564146183
Chilling and shitposting is where i'm at. Lashing out in a mindless fit of anger is where you're at

Come on, you didn't seriously expect me to waste my time reading some retarded shitter's wall of text?

>>564146179
rape

>>564146510
you kept spending time replying so idk, you still seem to enjoy wasting time on "retarded shitters" regardless
anyway, ill go back to my fun party finder havoc wins now. youll never believe what im dominating my games with currently, youll think im even more of a retard but thats more of a you/this board problem lmao

>>564146932
holy fic

>>564146932
Don't let the door hit you on your way out, shitter. We care a lot about the quality of our threads and we don't want shitters like you creating an environment where the blind lead the blind

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>>564149473
You're not getting my "man thing", you dirty rat

remember how you people were bitching about not grouping, this is why
green circles have done irreparable damage for coop game, people are bitching about "muh meta" rather than whats fun to play

>>564149660
Shitters always retreat to "fun to play" when they have lost the "it's super duper good actually" argument

>>564149778
nobody cares about your epeen

>>564150004
What does my enormous cock have to do with the fact that we don't want shitters giving bad advice and dragging us down during our matches with their shitty "fun" builds?

>completely retarded take
>check grammar
>all lowercase
How curious and novel.

>>564150162
you mean the one you cut off, so you have live vicariously through the internet now

>>564149660
Let's not pretend for even a moment that this hasn't been the same level of discourse since ages past, even back then it was still >ITS ONLY CHAMPION
The only difference was more than one person would join my friend code.

>>564150289
No. What an odd and retarded question
I mean the gargantuan fuckrod that is pressing against the fabric of my sweatpants

>>564150359
except back then there was less sperg posting, people are literally bragging about how good they are at a COOP game now, rather than complaining about how unfun things are

ngl I'm the best player in this general so when you have opinions different than mine they're just objectively wrong and you should be embarrassed

>>564151202
Hi, Tanner. I'm a big fan

Revive speed is a mandatory curio perk. I will not hear counterarguments because they are wrong.
Put them on your curios now.

>>564151373
Why? Planning on going down a lot?

>>564151202
expeditions > havoc btw

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>>564151138
>there was less sperg posting, people are literally bragging about how good they are
The only difference between then and now, is that we can now easily quantify how good or bad someone is by looking at their havoc truelevel.
>but it's le meaningless
Only to a degree, because h40 TS is still too much of a hurdle for the average streetshitter, and it's those exact individuals who keep shitting up the general with their insanely retarded takes, LARPing, humiliating themselves by posting screenshots they took off reddit, and pussying out or flinging shit the picosecond you ask them to provide empirical proof for their retarded takes.

>>564151259
I miss this lolcow's spergings

>>564151402
No, but your teammates sure are.
It makes clutching way easier too.

>>564151445
i dont care about your cbt mode, if you like thats fine, but its not just fun, youre playing a game, not doing chores

>>564151556
Then stop trying to participate in a big boy conversation when you're splashing around in the kiddie pool, you retarded cunt.

>>564151556
It's more fun than whatever everything below it has become, that's for sure.

>>564151373
>Revive speed is a mandatory curio perk.
Sorta, but only to an extent. Classes with shout abilities only need to hit whatever breakpoint lets them pick someone up before enemies recover from the stagger. I believe it's either 2 perks, or 1 perk + a skill that increases it.
Yes I know it works on other things, no I don't think you need 3 perks and a revive speed skill to remove a trapper net lol.
I'd only really consider 3 revive speed perks on classes or builds that have no way of reliably creating space, like non-chorus zealot, or psyker builds that don't or can't afford to run peril block.

>>564151556
It's not even really the same game, completely different balance. Cringe eceleb shit that artificially incentivizes specific cringe eceleb builds, literally designed to get people to go look at those cringe eceleb's videos by making whatever build they were doing well with in aurics suddenly not even a fraction as good.
'ate when game designers take advice from ecelebs.

>>564151823
Allow me to translate:
>I'm really angry I can't win havoc even when some faggot spoonfeeds me, and I need to take my anger out on everyone else because my ego cannot handle accepting that I'm not as good as I need to believe I am

>>564151916
Found the eceleb dickrider!

>>564151556
it's respectable it goes from fun to annoying quite quickly

>>564151916
Why are you taking personal offense to that post and defensively lashing out at me? Are you a "content creator"?

>>564151940
>>564151979
How would you feel if you hadn't had breakfast this morning?

>>564152013
No one was even talking about a hypothetical lol, are you so mad you're just spamming random shit now?

>>564152013
Sorry to break it to you, but using this question incorrectly actually means you're the retard

>>564151373
It's only mandatory on zealot because it's the heal bitch class now.
Every other class benefits more from gunner resist or stamina regen.

>>564152063
The fact that you're obsessing over content creatoids instead of realizing the obvious implication that better players than your retarded ass are regularly winning havoc 40 with randos, using their own builds, not even clicking on a single video is very telling.
>>564152081
retard

>>564152150
Yeah you clearly used it incorrectly like an absolute fucking retard lmfao

>>564151767
For clutching specifically, it greatly eases the pressure by cutting down on the time between you reaching the rez and them getting up. Yeah a shout helps, but very often a special, boss, etc is out of range and interrupts you anyway because all eyes are on you. Normally you'd need some distance to prevent that, but the perks/talents remove that need. On zealot, you can nearly finish a rez by the time your slide ends if you started it right when you initiate the rez due to the talent that gives you more. That alone makes basically any rez during a clutch, or a down where ranged enemies are the main threat a completely free revive with no abilities or staggers required. Overall it definitely did shift some due to the vet shout revive, but time and time again I find myself grateful I took them on every class. I deliberately got better at stamina management so I could replace those perks for these ones

>>564152150
>not even clicking on a single video is very telling.
And?
You personally not clicking on the videos (I don't either) doesn't mean that's not what the ecelebs were trying to get you to do by changing stats around to artificially incentivize piss toughness spam.
And again, none of this is hypothetical, so you're still a massive angry retard for trying to use le breakfast meme here.

>>564152137
Chorus zealots are boring as hell to play with. I enjoy engaging with the enemies and not have them be paused half the time as I get covered in bubble wrap.
People who actually still play damage focused zealot are welcome in my havocs anytime, means they know what they're doing and know how to have a good time.

>>564151627
im not the one who brought up the cbt mode, retard
>>564151661
if thats what you want, i dont care though, id rather get more maps or more weapons that are fun
>>564151823
its literally why weaves died, i dont remember that faggots name
>>564151960
its what they do every time, they nerfed all the cool shit in chaos wastes

>>564152013
lmao fucking dumbass

>>564152368
>People who actually still play damage focused zealot
DECLINED

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>>564152558
a grown male typed this

I personally switch builds or classes every game, I have 1600 hours in this game it would get very boring if I was playing le meta every time.

>>564152246
I think it depends somewhat.
If we're talking auric, I'd rather spam damage resist curios, because if I make a single mistake and get mutant grabbed into a lake of fire, not having flamer/bomber resist might lead to a down, which guarantees a wipe some 70% of the time because ASSlets can't play. Never mind the part where revive speed is completely irrelevant when you're helping "players" that unironically perform worse than bots every time.
If we're talking havoc, it still depends on what class you're playing. Zealot builds that don't run Providence may as well be griefing, and those don't need more than 1-2 revive curios to already hit stupid fast revive speeds. Plus, your job should be preventing downs, not salvaging them. I don't think ogryn, for example, should realistically even run revive speed, because his job is to aggro enemies away from the others doing the revive.
It's only theoretically the correct stat for clutch scenarios, but building around salvaging horrible situations is the wrong approach. You should instead be asking yourself how to prevent those from occurring in the first place, and being able to play more boldly with gunner res and corruption res, and being able to use your ability more often with CDR, just has more impact. Curio perks are pretty tight, and I find fitting more than 2 revive speed to be pretty tough on most builds.
>it definitely did shift some due to the vet shout revive
Most vets I see in h40 don't even run shout revive. I do think it's good, but I also acknowledge that I win more h40s than I lose, even with vets that don't take that skill.

>>564152669
problem is, the game is balanced around the op weaps

>>564152423
I must not have applied to your lobbies then, I get into runs pretty often when I choose to run stealth and relic blade.
I wouldn't want to play in a lobby where I'm asked to run something I don't want to anyway.
>>564152374
>id rather get more maps or more weapons that are fun
The people who make maps or weapons aren't the people working on havoc
Theyve got dedicated map designers and weapon people for that stuff. The weapons guys have been busy with all of the new classes they've been churning out for that sweet DLC money, and the map designers have been busy for a while with expeditions which is why we've gotten almost nothing in terms of maps for a long time. I'd assume the people working on havoc are in relation to enemy design, which is why about an update or two before expeditions, havoc modifiers just stopped getting added because they were working on the packmaster, armored hounds, and the spawn/aggression logic for expeditions. So yeah, havoc very likely isn't what's blocking weapons and maps, if anything it's blocking new enemies from being added when it's being worked on.
>>564152558
Careful, someone might sperg out on you liking a good weapon they think sucks.

>>564152971
i dont believe you, because we know their team is relatively small because theres always a delay in updates whenever they do console ports or working on either game over the other, its why necromancer took so long, they were working on darktide

They should add a stolen medicae servitor as a backpack for the ogryn in the slop shop.

>>564153554
Games workshop is en route to rape you for having a thought that they didnt verify as canon

I like playing martyrdom zealot because it's like I'm playing with a handicap when the game is too easy and then releasing my true skill when the going gets tough

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>>564159072
sorry master...just this once

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>>564129426
>>564129632
It pisses me off so much when someone gets good at illustration and then shits all over their own skills by not doing basic grammar/spelling check due diligence, like how do you get the hard part right and then snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? It's so fucking stupid that it genuinely enrages me.

>>564160371
not the overwhelming amount of meme faces?

>>564160371
>gets good at illustration and then shits all over their own skills by not doing basic grammar/spelling check
Some people are just retarded, anon.
Illustration is a skill like any other, and can be either heavily carried by talent, or brute forced through a lot of training. The quoted illustration isn't technically complex, and things like basic anatomy that most retards get wrong, can be easily set up with 3d mannequins in software (CSP is popular for this, many manga artists literally trace 3d models).
That isn't necessarily to take away from whatever artistic merit that piece may have, because it does appear aesthetically pleasing enough, and covers at least marginally appealing themes.
Doesn't mean that the author isn't completely fucking retarded though. I don't know the author, but first impressions looking at that grammar and all the meme faces point toward exactly that.

Oh also, the Karen boom combined with the corporatization of the internet effectively illegalizing the concept of gatekeeping and "unsolicited criticism", allow retards like this to thrive. Add a pinch of social media confirmation bias (only those who want to see that slop will follow that artist) and the ever-present autistic desire to have some artist draw muh OC, and you have sycophantic circlejerks all over the internet, producing aggressively sub-par artists that don't even have the courtesy to TRY to get the dialogue right.

t. artist (no I won't show you my stuff, fuck off)

>>564161142
>pwease give me attention so I can sell my shit

>>564161297
Actually the attention meta is to farm well-meaning idiots through histrionics (likely genuine, as most social media artists are severely mentally ill) and then delete any negative comments to appear well-liked.

Why don't we just rape the heretics? It'll do far more morale damage than just killing them.

>>564161506
Because they have the turboest of giga AIDS. Your dick will instantly rot off.

>>564161506
t. Slaanesh cultist

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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

Slaanesh update when?

>>564161506
Rape just makes them stronger.

Give me a cursed build.

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>quickplay expedition
>wait full 60 seconds in the lobby, no one joins
>no one joins during the loading screen
>1 guy finally joins about 8 minutes in
>game doesn't fully fill until we're in the 3rd area while doing every objective

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>expedition
>no one is joining, good
>someone random joins, shit
>they're actually alright
>okay, fine
>12 year old squeaker on a hot mic joins
>tries to 'lead'
>we have 12 minutes left, he's wanting to call the valk
>other guy and I ignore him, continue expediting
>he goes down
>he's at the valk
>he's crying
>he dies
>"guys guys guys pick me up im close"
>he's literally at the furthest spawn point
>we ignore him
>pick him up in sanctuary
>believes he is being helpful
>he did push a poxburster so maybe this kid is white
>he just won't shut the fuck up
>insists on calling the valk every single minute
>doesn't even GG when we win
These are actual players in your games, guys. Be aware.

>>564167104
>>564167365
the duality of /copeg/

>expedition
>lmao

>>564168448
I'm probably an outlier but I actually like to break up the routine of
>sewer map
>sewer map b
>bridge map
>bridge map b
>train map
>sand map
>sand map b

>>564168596
Expeditions felt a thousand times more repetetive than any normal mission, despite being randomized.

>>564168851
Yeah but you aren't stuck in
>sewer map
>bridge map
>sand map
>pipes map
You get
>canyon map
Also having an open path feels cathartic after game after game after game of linear maps.

>>564135815
Thanks anon!
>It went out of production
Well then. I guess I'll have to keep looking.
Thank you for the pic and paper though.
>>564135298
I bought it on a whim just to try it out and the mouse I bought actually had lasted pretty good. Longer than my previous logitech.
>>564135949
There are worse things to go up a man's butt.

>>564169219
>>It went out of production
>Well then. I guess I'll have to keep looking.
You can still find it on ebay under "Logicool G600" for some 140-200 bucks depending on your region.
I'd recommend an alternative but I have literally zero interest in ever using another mouse. I need more than 5 buttons, and every other "MMO gayming mouse" I've used or seen was either a borderline scam or just kind of bad.

So how bad are expeditions now? I need to unlock all the new nodes to get closer to getting the pants.

>>564167104
>>564167365
Well fuck

>>564168971
Those mean nothing to me anon. I exclusively play Throneside missions.

>>564169581
You really didn't have any reason to question me, then.

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Vet bros of Darktide.
I need good talent build recommendations.
Also is it a good idea to have "born leader" so that teammates in coherency can get excess toughness?
Is only in Death does duty end worth it nowadays?

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last node about to unlock

>>564170663
I can't wait to not play it

>>564168971
Yes you get
>canyon map (sand map variant)
but if I play quickplay I get
>sewer map
>bridge map
>sand map
>pipes map
so I don't get wtf you're saying

>>564170663
and then what happens?

>>564170972
Because you are autistic.

>>564171321
Nice retort but even 4 map types is more variety than playing over and over in the same canyon map
you are the autistic one for not understanding the basic concept of variety. There was novelty to the new map but it wore off quick because it has no new objectives

>>564171489
>new canyon map is not good because it is new and not what I am used to and also no new objectives so I don't like the map
Good for you, I guess. I never said the maps were good I just said I like breaking up the cycle of sewer map, pipe map, sand map, train map. If you think Canyon = Sand you need to genuinely go the fuck outside.

>>564168971
>Yeah you aren't stuck in these 4 places
>Instead you're stuck in this 1 place
>see? It's much better!

>>564171639
Stuck in 5 places instead of 4 is bad because it doesn't add variety, I guess. You guys are seriously just autistic and nit picking losers. I like Expeditions more than you and that pisses you the fuck off. Grow up.

>>564171631
>>new canyon map is not good because it is new
???
How did you even remotely get this from what I said? You are delusional lmao

It's especially funny because it really isn't new or "something new to get used to" in the first place, because you're just doing the same battery and auspex objectives too, and the sand assets already all existed. You are retarded. Guess I found the type of player the reskinned objectives actually appeal to
You're like those autistic fucks who INSISTED that mortis was actually the peak of replayability and remained fresh for soooooo long (it was dead 1 week after release because it's extremely one dimensional just like expeditions)

>>564171824
>variety means no new maps
This is your argument. You are retarded.

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>>564171727
>Stuck in 5 places instead of 4 is bad because it doesn't add variety, I guess.
Given that you have to actuallly manually pick expeditions and the queues dont mix that's an incredibly dishonest way to put it

>>564170357
Coherency talent is as useful as your teammates are, which 90% of the time is not the case.
Res shout is useful and imo worth the point, but many vets even in the hardest difficulty don't take it. In auric, you should think of it as spending 1 point to get a slightly shittier arbites dog, because instead of constantly being dead, that one useless shitter will at least serve as a distraction.

The horizontal row of grenade talents is good. Elite kill grenade replenish is good. Piss tag is good, especially the toughness/stamina regen node in it to fuel Deadshot. Shock Trooper is very strong specifically with the laspistol. Reload speed nodes at the top shoulders of the tree are strong but situational and mostly boltgun tax. The melee bleed is a sign of having low IQ, as it quantifiably does next to nothing. If you don't upgrade your crates you should get prison raped. Melee talents are there for fun, not for optimal builds.

>>564172032
Me actively choosing not to play pipe, sand, train, or sewer map pisses you off and It makes me laugh because I am given an option to change my game. lmao

>>564171871
>variety means no new maps
Holy fuck you are pretty funny dude. It's like you're reading metaphysical letters that have never been written. Have you ever been checked for paranormal sight? Again how are you even remotely getting this from what I'm saying? You must be some sort of woman or eunuch just emotionally spouting words out

>>564172167
Nope. Just trying to piss you off more and more by saying "Expeditions has a new map." I gave up "debating" with you as soon as you said some dumb shit akin to "new is not variance."

>>564172089
You alright dude? I didn't say you can't have fun playing in your single new map over and over, just that it's not accurate to say it's a varied experience to do so
Kind of funny how incredibly you asshurt you seem because you can't accept that the new gamemode having only one map is repetitive as fuck

>>564172282
+1 map sure fucking sucks and is NOT what the players want. We want slop shop rotations, overpriced power creep DLC, and weapons. Maps? That shit is retarded.

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>>564172241
>I gave up "debating" with you as soon as you said some dumb shit akin to "new is not variance."
who the fuck said this lmao
you are truly special. you hallucinated some nonsensical shit that I never wrote and now you're pissed off because you don't like it. i'm glad I don't live your life

*wakes up*
*rubs the sleep from my eyes*
*wipes the shit from my ass*
*opens /coopg/*

>>564172509
Bad decisions starting your day

>>564172509
Have a shower and some breakfast first at least

>>564172464
>NOOOOOOO WE ALREADY HAVE VARIETY
>what if we had.... more?
>NOOOOOOO WE ALREADY HAVE VARIETY
This is literally your argument. You are not debating either way, you are just crying and lambasting while foisting a position NOTHING TOO NEW PLEASE. You are literally Autistic.

>>564172405
You're having an emotional meltdown but you never once addressed the fact that this new "map" is the only thing you get when playing this new gamemode, thus making it a repetitive experience
I never said them adding this new map is bad, but it should've just been new maps in the base mission pool instead of this. They managed to effectively add new content that feels repetitive from the get go because you can only play it this one certain way.

But I don't know why I'm even talking to you about this, you're just going to make another passive aggressive emotional slayqueen retort because you're seething too hard to understand the concept of "new things can be added in bad, out of the way methods that don't add meaningful variety to the base game"

>>564172674
Why are you arguing with the lowercase retard, anon?

>>564172707
Nah you're projecting and I'm defending the fact that I enjoy the canyon maps and the lack of linear gameplay that the regular game mode has. Honestly I hope you grow from this.

>>564172727
Expeditions are like a 4/10 and some enjoyment can be gained from them. The new canyon style map is nice with its verticality and POIs. I like it and people are fuming.

>>564172807
I didn't ask what the argument was about, I was trying to hint at the futility of the task of arguing with someone as genuinely fucking brain damaged as lowercase-tard. Science should study him, that's how retarded he is.

>>564172807
>Nah you're projecting and I'm defending the fact that I enjoy the canyon maps
No, you weren't, you were saying it's not repetitive. I know you want to be the victim real bad right now, but saying it's repetitive doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

I like Mortis.

>>564172928
Thread activity might actually spawn genuine conversation about the game, but it takes time and effort.

>>564173050
Certainly takes a bit more effort than blindly defending something and denying objective weaknesses just because you like it.

>>564173050
>genuine conversation
LMAO check the tail end of last general and the first third or so of this general. All this is spawning is schizophrenic turd-worlders shitting up the civilized internet.

>>564172939
I never said that. You are projecting. I said I dislike how repetitive the map CYCLE is you illiterate faggot.

>>564173161
>blindly
A lot of hate is blind. Finding things you LIKE takes effort. I'm sorry you were never taught this as a child, blame your parents for raising you like this.

>>564173169
And all I wanted to do was talk civilly about the new game mode and a few of the things I liked about it. And here we are.

>>564173176
>I never said that. You are projecting.
Following the reply links will prove otherwise, this isn't reddit where you can just delete or edit posts my friend.
Anyways this is pointless. Expeditions is extremely repetitive and everyone I knew instantly went back to Havoc or quickplay because it just having one map makes it feel very monotone and you want to just break out of the cycle of going into the same featureless desert map with "random objectives" (it's just batteries and the same fucking auspex minigame over and over again)

I'm happy for you that you enjoy it, nobody is trying to deny you the right to enjoy monotone shit content. A lot of people have higher standards and will voice their gripes with something though. They're not mad at you because they feel otherwise and have defensible opinions that differ from yours. As you start using discussion forums more you'll learn to deal with other opinions better, don't worry

>>564173031
Meh, it's kinda lame but I see the enjoyment in it. It's definitely an arcade-y style Darktide gamemode with the mutators and stuff. Darktide really is packed to the brim with half-assed ideas, isn't it?

>>564173551
>play regular game mode for a few hours
>do an expedition to break up the monotony
>well you're doing it wrong and I don't like it
>but that is okay
>i'll still lambast and denigrate you
>but it's okay that you like something that I don't
You know, you finally said it. You did grow. Big GZ bro.

>>564173574
Oh, just another person blindly hating on Mortis. Carry on.

>>564173574
>Darktide really is packed to the brim with half-assed ideas, isn't it?
Biggest content injection yet!

>>564173697
>play regular game mode for a few hours
>do an expedition to break up the monotony
See I did this and I realized each time "oh it's just the same map and 5x auspex scan again, why did I think this would be fresh?"

>>well you're doing it wrong and I don't like it
Why do you keep coming out with this rhetoric? You're incredibly whiny and grating, nigger. I don't know what sort of emotional malfunction you have where you take people making counterpoints to mean your quote

>>564173828
You have autonomy in deciding your path. You are not forced to take ascender d/18 to reach the street.

>>564173574
I like holding down my fire button and never running out of ammo. It's the best experience a looger can get.

>>564174062
Well you are enjoying it wrong, o algo

>>564173902
Now we're reaching the part where you understand what a discussion is, you whiny little pseud
Other people aren't as easily entertained as you, so they call the new gamemode a bad addition because it doesn't meaningfully add to their gameplay experience. Just because YOU think it's "fresh and new" still doesn't mean anyone else shares this and is just as happy swapping to it like you are
>wahhhh but if you disagree it means you're mad at me
I'm mad at you because you're a whiny little turd who is on some weird kind of pedestal because he enjoys a shit gamemode that offers nothing to the game other than the initial novelty of playing 2 or 3 games. I'm also mad at Fatshark because they could be making meaningful variety instead of this shit, like adding more maps to the core game loop which, if they had been doing instead of adding dogshit gamemodes that get old after 2 games, would be far better right now.
I am NOT mad at you because you enjoy different things, just because you're a little annoying faggot who can't grasp that we could have it much better if Fatshark wasn't getting positive feedback from retarded little shit suckers like you

>>564174254
I literally said I enjoy the canyon maps and the non-liberality of the game mode in like my second post. I am not reading all of your crybaby projections.

>>564174335
No you didn't literally say you enjoy canyon maps you tried to say that it's equivalent to just getting a new map. It isn't, it's far worse

>>564174335
non-linearity*

>>564174105
Begone anon. I enjoy things how I please.

>>564174434
It literally is a new map because there are no other canyon maps. You failing to understand this makes me question your IQ and mental capacity. Even your skin color.

>>564174567
Nigger when I say "just getting a new map" I OBVIOUSLY mean getting a new mission for the adventure mode. Don't pretend you don't understand you disingenuous cunt.

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>>564174547
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>564174708
>WE WANT NEW MAPS
>releases expeditions with a new map and a new boss
>NO NOT LIKE THAT!
Miyamoto was right. Gamers don't know what they want and are some of the most entitled children ever.

>>564174335
He dunked on you pretty hard, dude

>>564174831
When people say
>we want new maps
they aren't saying
>We want new geometry to walk on!
They mean they want new missions for the adventure mode.
Again, stop pretending you don't understand this. I already called you out, disingenuous little rat.

>>564174843
Nah, you just agree with him because you are also underwhelmed by Expeditions, genuinely curb your enthusiasm. A lot of you are talking like kids who believe the world is much better than it actually is.

>>564174105
I enjoy it because Sefoni gives me kisses in my mind.

When i said i wanted new maps, i sure as hell didn't mean new horribly boring maps in a shitty game mode

>>564174927
>>564175026
Be sure to tell Fatshark that instead of crying on 4chan and lambasting the one person who kinda likes it.

>>564175026
I made the mistake of talking to Baldwin on the forums once and he said that the new mortis trials snow map they added is equivalent to a new mission drop because "it's a new map, what more do you want?"
dishonest shills love playing with semantics like that

>>564175089
Stop whining, bitch

>>564175149
You are the one who is writing paragraphs of crybaby projections. I'm just saying Expeditions has a small bit of enjoyability for some people, me being one of them.

>>564174831
>phoned in open area that reuses the sand and trash tileset that already existed in a dead game mode that has you collecting trash that does nothing and gives you no real incentive to play it
WOWIES

>>564175089
Don't tell me what to do faggot, I'll lambast you over having shit takes on here all day long and no amount of impotent whining will stop me from doing it
Now if you please, you can go back to circle jerking with that other faggot about how you're the only true arbiter of GENUINE discussion ITT (everyone who disagrees with you is just doing it because he's mad)

>>564175236
>new map
>new boss
I mean the checklist was right there. No way this game mode will 'save' Darktide and the vocal haters have made their stance clear. Remind yourself that I am defending ME and NOT Fatshark.

>>564175195
Nope. I just posted >>564175026 and now you're acting like a victim

>>564175245
This type of "discussion" doesn't provide anything other than catharsis for the loudest person. I get it, YOU don't like Expeditions and YOU are morally offended when someone else does. Hope you lose sleep and hair over it.

>>564175323
>new map
>it's stuck in a trash gamemode
>new boss
>it's ALSO stuck in the same trash gamemode and it's so undertuned and boring it doesn't even register as a boss

the mode and update are trash, you can enjoy trash if you want nobody cares. stop taking it personally faggot

>>564175323
>it was technically what you want to the letter! :)
You're getting bodied by the thread because you're being willfully retarded and, as usual, pretending not to understand things. But hey, at least you're getting attention.

>>564175436
Yikes. Why are expedition trannies so spiteful and disgusting? Are you lashing out because most people are too smart to enjoy your game mode?

>>564175372
You sure changed your face as soon as I told you to direct your complaints to someone who can do something about it. You just want to cry.

>>564175437
People are directly attacking ME, I have to take it personally you stupid, terminally online, suicidal teenager.

>>564175519
I understand it fine. Daddy didn't give you the toy you wanted so you are crying and crying and crying until you get it. This is no different than the Foxhole community when Naval came out. Trust me, I'm laughing while you are crying.

>>564175546
No, I'm defending myself because me liking something doesn't mean you have to come trying to convince me of something. You could just keep your peace, but instead we have the current threat discussing the game.

>>564175436
Funny how it's always the faggots who think their own opinion is the word of god who come out with whiny shit like this. You have a severe ego issue, there is no conspiracy to shit on you. You just felt like defending expeditions and got shat on for it
Look, when people told you exactly concretely what's wrong with the mode you made this post >>564175089 acknowleding it as legitimate counterpoints (which is what discussion is) but instead of just accepting that other people can defend their opinions you launch into this mentally ill tirade about how it's not real discussion

>>564175640
>the status quo is the status quo
I love swimming against the current.

>>564175628
I can tell you aren't used to anonymous posting. Nobody gives a fuck about you dude, they aren't attacking you they were attacking the content of your post

>>564175767
>they weren't attacking YOU
>they were attacking YOUR SENSIBILITIES
You are just as disingenuous as you project me to be. I can actually tell you are mid 20s.

>>564172063
Thanks bud!
Admittedly I have a thing for having a build to be a useful vet.
But sometimes it feels like trying to babysit teammates that try to get wasted by the enemy.
Is building with babysitting in mind the best mindset or to maximize survival chances if being the last man standing the better mentality?

>>564175742
The only meaningful piece of info I can gain from this post is that you don't know what "status quo" means apparently.
protip: it does not mean "the majority opinion" which you seem to think. If that's what you were trying to say then you're just a retard. Liking something just because it's not popular makes you a contrarian, not a free thinker, because you still picked your opinion based on what most people like.

>>564175628
>You sure changed your face
Nope. You are desperate to dunk on me in some way but you're too retarded to formulate a coherent and accurate response. Maybe the fact that the entire thread is slapping you around is confusing you

>>564175870
Are you a retarded unc? Would make sense why you stick out like a pedo in a playground

>>564175919
Bruh you are just swimming with the current and cannot find ANYTHING you like about the update. Not a thing? Nothing? You would probably be better to play a different game but you are still here crying about the toy you didn't want.

>>564175926
Not true, you said you wanted maps in the regular game mode, you really shouldn't waste your time crying like that here on 4chan. It's a waste of time. You think Fatshark is here reading this thread? Go to their official forums and cry there.

>>564176071
Nah bro you are the fucking retard here. All I said was "man, I do like the new canyon map and the non-linearity of the map, it lets me break up the cycle of sand map, train map, sewer map, sewer map b" and the entire thread is having a mother fucking conniption because I don't share the same opinion. Mother fucking cry about it, faggot.

>>564175628
Fatshark could have given us Chaos Wastes, which is what Darktide players have pretty openly been asking to get for a while. They could have given us more missions for the main terminal, another thing Darktide players have been asking for. They could have given us new weapons, new cosmetics, both of these are things people have been OPENLY asking for.

Instead we got, uh, an extraction mode, but the shit we're extracting doesn't even actually do anything.

The only decent thing we got was the packmaster, but he's horribly underbalanced and only present in the dead gamemode. Come to think of it, I've stopped seeing the armored dog spawn at all in the other gamemodes, so they must have removed even that.

Do you understand? The gamemode is dead in the water. D.E.A.D dead. The playerbase cannot possibly be making itself more clear on this, but you're coming out with the retarded diatribe that "gamers don't know what they want". That line has killed the reputation of more than one company.

>>564176089
>Bruh you are just swimming with the current and cannot find ANYTHING you like about the update.
Why are you posting like such a faggot? I never even talked about this in the first place
I really the balance changes they made and I kept playing the main mode, I dislike that they do shit like expeditions instead of adding more meat to the game in the form of weapons, missions (preferably ones that actually have a narrative) and maybe new other shit that's been long overdue like trinket crafting options or red weapons
you have some weird sort of egocentric narcissism issue where if anyone disagrees with you about anything he's apparently instantly satan himself or just "one of those sheep"

This all started with >>564168448 (me). Sorry thread, I'll try not to be the domino of doom next thread.

>>564176089
>Not true, you said you wanted maps in the regular game mode
And your response was retarded and unrelated to my post. You're struggling really badly right now. I'd suggest logging off if you're incapable of taking it personally and lashing out at everyone who doesn't like the same game mode as you

>>564176345
I still like it a bit.

>>564176348
Gotta keep the conversation up because I still feel like defending me liking parts of the new update.

>>564176376
Please put on a trip code.

>>564176384
I'm happy for you but I also hope you understand hwo utterly irrelevant that piece of info is for anyone but yourself

>>564175907
>Is building with babysitting in mind the best mindset or to maximize survival chances if being the last man standing the better mentality?
It's kinda complicated, because no matter how much effort you put into keeping your retards alive, it's still just the equivalent of herding cats. You can't un-blow-up the psyker who can't play his class. You can't steer the literal mongoloid away from camping a spawn door for minutes on end and dying to a singular poxwalker.
But also, yes, veteran is very reliant on staying in coherency to be strong, and having teammates hopefully deal with melee enemies. It's one of the more miserable classes to be the last man standing on, and actually the main reason I don't play it much, because auric shitters will often just fucking wipe.

If you want to be self-sufficient, use a ranged weapon with quick equip time (vetoes bolter and the newly nerfed plasma) and actually do invest some into melee so you can solo mixed hordes. I still insist that melee nodes are a meme, but they're necessary when playing with mouthbreathers that will leave you clutching every other run. Kraks are strictly mandatory for no other reason than deleting inopportune daemonhosts before your retards can spend 2 minutes pissing themselves at the margins and aggroing it anyway instead of just running past. It takes some getting used to getting them to stick on the tiny hitbox. I recommend piss tagging and throwing 2 kraks while it stands up, holding your third krak, and throwing it after you shout.

>>564176530
It's a public forum and I'm allowed to freely state my opinion. I am also able to defend my opinion. It's really that simple.

>>564176089
Badwin posted almost 1:1 like this, especially shit like
>crying about the toy you didn't want.
He used this exact phrasing before

I swear to god this guy is Badwin. I am not joking

>>564176231
The entire thread formed a line in front of you to get a chance at slapping your titties around. If you weren't so retarded then you'd have the self awareness to realize that you are obviously the retarded sperg who is attacking every anon who disagrees with you

>>564176660
>badwin never got fired from his shill job
>fagshart just pivoted over to shitting up coopg