Previous: >>564193026>Mongil: Star Dive is a 3D action RPG (ARPG) developed by Netmarble using Unreal Engine 5, launching April 15, 2026, on PC and mobile. It centers on monster-taming and fast-paced, 3-character, real-time tag-team combat within a fantasy world. Players follow adventurers Cloud and Verna on a journey to collect various monsters and uncover secrets.>PC & mobile downloadhttps://stardive.netmarble.com/en/pcplayhttps://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/mongil-star-dive-e6f95ehttps://apps.apple.com/us/app/mongil-star-dive/id6483252725https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmarble.monster2&hl=en>jewtubehttps://www.youtube.com/@Stardive_ENhttps://www.youtube.com/@Stardive_JPhttps://www.youtube.com/@Stardive_KR>xitterhttps://x.com/Stardive_ENhttps://x.com/Stardive_JPhttps://x.com/Stardive_KR>useful resourceshttps://mongil.wiki.gg/>do not redeemLOVEMONGILMONGILDISCORDmongilpresentdindinisdindinmongilreportGSBGMONGILLetsPlayplaymongilJoinmongilNew 3D gacha from Koreans, not an open world but a mix of small-medium-big areas.Voiced in Korean, Japanese and English>Mostly female cast - only 4 males (two of them are 4*), devs said they wont add any more males.>100% banner, hard pity at 90 pulls
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i forgor to wait for page 10 to bake...sorry bwos...
Some anon in a previous thread asked what do we shorten awakening level and weapon dupe level to so I’m gonna answer nowWeapon dupes are used to fuse a weapon and raise their FUSION level. Fusion starts with F and awakening starts with A so character duper and weapon can be shortened to axfx.So that an Esther with one copy of her sig weapon but with no dupes is a0f1
I'm still not sure which stats are the best to get with monster talents. Does my Ophelia want Crit DMG and Crit Rate? Or do mix them and get Ice DMG or ATK? Or even Elemental Weakness DMG? Fuck or even DMG to Boss Enemies? I have no idea which ones are multiplicative or additive.Does anyone have a damage formula?
Probably a dumb question, but do characters benefit only from their own class' damage stat?Like, can Flare run Brawler shoes instead of Destroyer to up her DPS on mobs?
>>564407891Do better next time.Or else.
>>564408136i asked.yes, a#f# sound good. thanks.
>>564408730everyone wants double crit and atk, yes even daisy.some want other stats too like hp for daisy. i give reina some def because she gets hit a lot.
So it's actually true that you deal phys damage if you don't have elemental advantage?
>>564411620Yes. You can see it from the color of your damage numbers.
>>564411620What? No. Whoever told you that probably just got confused since most melee units have physical and elemental parts in their kit
>>564411620Yeah, what this guy said. >>564412217Coloured dmg numbers = elementalWhite dmg numbers = Off-element/physical
Is Cloud worth using for a second team even though I have Flare? Asking since I almost got maxed out dupes of him from my summons.
>>564411620it would explain why i never see purple numbers with yeonhwa even during ult which supposedly infuses her normals.
>>564412217>>564412754Damn, they really punish you for using off-element DPS.
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>>564412860Cloud is ice. Flare is fire. You'll not clear shit in endgame off-element.
REMINDER NOT TO GRIND PATHS UNTIL THEY INCREASE THE DROP RATES WHICH THEY'VE SAID THEY'RE DOING
>>564414856download more ram.
praying for a downgrade
>>564415531fuck this game
did they say when those updates are going live?
>>564415970
>>564416005Latest will be second half of 1.0 i'd imagine. Beginning of 1.1 if they want the game to die.
>>564416368Definitely need to push it out before the next big gacha release.
>>564415531>>564415724I don't know what you were aiming for but along with the path drop rate and nyanner capture buffs they're also buffing the chance of combining resulting in the "good" option
>>564416368>2 weeks to get 1 gold gear by buying the boxes in the shop if you get no drops>you cant even buy out the weekly limit even if you sweep all 7 daysall of these retarded deliberate choices is baffling
>>564416368>>564416612>>564417365It's tomorrow
>>564417064standing paizuri.
I wasn't really hyped for Mina but now i've played her in the story trial. She's very very fun and I will be rolling for her.
Just got my Flare artifact with the last free standard pulls. Now I'm ready for Mina.
>>564418959Weird, it's the opposite for me. Her playstyle of just spamming autos and dash whenever her mini-gauge is full didn't click for me.
>>564415350When is the patch dropping?
>>564419320see >>564418349
>>564416643I think he's trying to submit them for the event. You can only submit grey rarity monsterlings and you need to mutate some which will also up their grade making you unable to submit them.
Holy kino.>>564417064
>>564419272Mina felt really janky to me. I'm saving for downgraded Narea anyways.
Didn't like Mina much either and she's a Fighter so she's supposed to be on screen more.At this rate I'm gonna be saving for at least 2 months.
>>564421032Then your only option for a fire team is the main character.
>>564421032Save for her.
>>564421270>already have her dupe and sig artifactI won't count her out just yet
>>564421610Yeah that's who I want, but it's gonna be a very long time.Damn.
>>564421610What's her element/role?
>>564420351Right looks better.
>>564421992Wind destroyer according to https://mongil.gg/characters/nagi
>>564422362>everything purple >windwelp
>Roll Esther for the hell of it>Get her first 10 pull>Roll again just to get at least one new 4* character>Get her againAAAIIIIEEEE
Combining monsters seems to combine their total exp too, which is nice.
90 minutes until maintenance180 minutes until maintenance concludeshttps://forum.netmarble.com/stardive_gl/view/2/209
What improvements do you want from Esther's model after maint
Her feet in my mouth.
how the fuck beat the sangun vs ligthing tiger shitty mission the controls are shit and the togers keep spamming
>>564425656Grabbing the orb that makes you attack the tiger gives you i-frames, are you playing with a joystick or something? Unless you mean the actual boss in which case idk I first timed it.
so uhh, how'd they get away with no spats?
>>564426109korean dev
>Removing def/hp type monsterlings>After I just noticed yesterday I had leveled some def monsterlings with good traits and fed them to atk types last night
>>564426404I understand hp monsterlings but why would you want def? Nothing scales with def.
Maint every day is wild
>>564426628To pollute the pool, just like ele resist shit on traits.
>>564426628I didn't even notice there were different types until I watched a video that pointed it out, so I noticed the ones I had leveled were def/hp
>>564427035It's sink or swim, and devs chose the breaststroke.
>>564427714need Gabi to lift my legs and get to smashing
Enjoy Esther whilst you can bros. Mina/Flare/Narae is a strictly better comp with more uptime on your DPS and takes advantage of a more common elemental weakness.>>564427035Are you saying you don't want the game to be less grindy?
>>564427035As long as it improves the game I'm all for it.
>>564427881You will have to use Esther on wind bosses anyways.
>>564427881So with that, we'll have coverage for Wind, Fire, and Ice. The question is how long will we have to wait for earth and electic chars. Or are the 4 star destroyers like Reina and Ellie good enough to cover us for now?
>>564427881>Stage isn't fire shill>AAAAAAAA NOOOO MUH INVESTMEEEEENT!!!!!!Also friendly reminder Narae is ice. She's not going to be that good of a fit for a fire team.
>>564428680>didn't read the kitShe buffs both ice AND fire that's why she's the one metafags are saving for.
>>564428795>BiS support for 2/5 elements for the foreseeable futureIf she hasn't been nerfed after cbt i'd be shocked but if she hasn't she's gonna be a mainstay for a long while as supports routinely last longer in the metagame than DPS characters.
>>564428795She's NOT fire and in this game even supports contribute. Hence even for supports Crit-critdmg-atk subs are bis, noobie.Why the fuck do you think Jiwon is so good as a wind support being a wind buffer that is wind element?
>>564429946You just don't get it.
So did the devs listened?
>>564430812Bodied that freak.
You are saving for Narae because of meta.I'm saving for Narae because of cute feet.We are not the same.
>>564430812So I assume the bubbles are stationary hazards unless popped by Fire damage at which point they become AoE?
what the heck are these?near the entrance to the wolves cave.
>>564431861They'll be used in a side quest later on, don't worry.
>>564431861People from the future who spent all their launch gibs on Esther
>>564431530Narae feetjob and Mina armpit licking? Cloud has it good I see.
>>564432126Leave my fotm powercrept by 1.1 free-use onahole alone !!
>>564420351Need barefoot girl
>>564431861https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandrake
>>564432176i'll take flare armpitjob and naizuri any day.
>>564421610I shall call her salad fork
Someone mentioned that fast dashing esther right when the 3rd attack animation starts is not worth it because you don't do the final attack in the chain which has high scaling. I can see that there is another animation with testing but I don't have any bosses to test this on can anyone confirm the damage difference.
for the anon that asked about petrification last thread.
>>564430812>She is iceYes I see the BiS ice support and a placeholder until a fire type fire support comes out. There is no reason not to run an assassin with Mina/Verna+Flare over Narae aside skill issue.You really failed at literacy.
>>564430824Yes.
>>564432919You literally dash cancel because the attack fires at the start of the animation so the entire rest of it is Esther doing nothing but posing. What the fuck are they on?
got angel's cube.just in time for chapter 4, i read it is the fire shilling chapter.
>>564433298There's when she launches the waves and when she does the meme final slash. Pretty sure anon is referring to if you dash cancel when she launches the waves.
>>564433570Expectation: Sexy tiiiime~Reality: SAVE THAT MAN THE MONSTER MAID IS WATERBOARDING HIM AS WE SPEAK!!!
>>564433827Be sure to lock your artifacts since they don't auto-lock.
>>564433943i don't press autoadd.but sure, a little precaution never hurts.
>>564433846I would need to check the verity of this final slash when I get home, but if there is one then just dash cancel only one final attack because that's enough to fit a third attack string into the dust cloud duration.
>>564432919you for sure do way more damage doing the dash cancel since you can easily get in four basic attack rotations
>>564432947Ahh yes the really good assassins Angel and Leewho who do less damage than Flare onfield.
>>564432947>There is no reason not to run an assassin with Mina/Verna+Flare over Narae aside skill issue.If you like Leeho and Angel you can just say you like Leeho and Angel but it doesn't change the fact that the most "meta" teamcomp that has been seen since the first cbt was and still is Mina/Flare/Narae.Mina, Flare and Narae are all the BiS for their roles and coincidentally Mina and Narae were also explicitly designed to work together.>Narae drops Dew Field and dips>Mina has greedy uptime requirements incentivizing the use of supports and destroyers with low uptime>Mina is also Ranged>This means she can pop the bubbles without running around to melee them like LeehoI suppose you can run Angel instead of Mina but there is no universe where you run Mina/Flare/Angel because Mina takes too much of your uptime meaning Angel would offer only occasional affliction via her support skill.You take Mina because she's the BiS Fire DPS.You take Flare because she's the BiS Fire Destroyer.You take Marae because she buffs Fire Affliction, that on its own is enough to make her BiS on any team with Mina just due to the sheer weight of Mina's uptime requirements meshing incredibly well with Flare and Marae's skill->ult->switch playstyles.You want to argue that Marae won't be BiS for some hypothetical future Fire DPS that has low uptime then be my guest because arguing about characters we don't even have designs for is pointless and a waste of your time.Marae is a shoe-in for any Mina team due to both Angel and Leeho require too much uptime because Mina is one of the most uptime reliant character we have, maybe even moreso than Gabi>>564431763That's correct, they are stationary except when attacked by fire damage they explode in a decently sized AoE.
>>564433827>assassin cube>gives support dmg>read angel switch skill>support skillsome other non-support characters also have switch skills that scale with support dmg, such as:>esther>yeonhwa>leeho>benjaminall assassins btw.amazingly enough, bonnie switch out does not scale with support dmg if i'm readding her skill correctly.
>>564434986disregard that last part.support dmg affects all tag-out skills. so bonnie does scale with support dmg.and so does everyone else too.no clue why assassins have direct support dmg scaling in their switch skill.
>>564433846>>564434186Can confirm it's slash-slash-flurry-finsher. With dash cancel you can fit 3 full combos.
>>564434986I'm building my Yeonhwa as solely off-field support DPS. Her support skill is really good with A1.
>>564436115does the finisher actually do damage though, because if you cancel during flurry you can fit in 4 rotations in a fart cloud (5 with jiwon I heard)
>>564435214That's how they tried to balance Assassins being supposedly units that you only switch in during stagger phases. Esther notwithstanding
I hope this game doesn't die. It's very charming and doesn't take itself too seriously aside from the Cloud x Mina stuff. It's clearly made with love and passion. This can be proven via the presence of pantsu. I for one will continue to buy both monthly subs and BP unless they really screw the pooch but i'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried for the games' future once NTE releases and we lose all the fotm players. Also i'm sad that there's not much art yet.
>>564436428There's too many hits going on so it's hard to tell. Her skill description does only show damage from the 3rd attack, but that could be a 3rd and 4th attack added together.
>>564436428Only three fits in my experience unless I'm failing some frame perfection 99% of the human population will also fail at.
>>564434841>Doesn't understand how Assassins that aren't Esther work.You failed to make a valid arguement.
>>564436603having split scaling sucks.as they are now, you build them as boss slayers or subdps by giving them assassin or support dmg boots and monsterling. but cannot do both.if they wanted them to be only useful as boss slayers and being subdps the rest of the time, then they should have made their switch skill scale with assassin dmg.esther can do both only because her multipliers are good when her cloud is up and lasts enough to clean mobs. and she gets the limited 5* benefit.
>>564436924I will stick until 1.1 but if they won't change the giga RNG of monsterling upgrade I'm gonna drop.
>>564436924the only thing that's a bit bitter for me is the limited characters being truly semi-limited but I guess other gachas all spoiled me when they put their limited characters into standard after the rateup and I know that mihomos system has since become the industry standard but it still sorta sucks.This misgiving is easily balanced out by the lack of 50/50 which is my largest issue with mihomo gachas
>>564437750Giga-rng? I know they're making all of them give ATK now but what do you mean? The % stats? If you get a good one you can use the special currency that's now farmable in rifts to lock-in specific traits along with rift enemies having a higher capture rate and rift bosses having a 100% chance now I think they've done a good job.
>everything is expensive as fuck>have to unironically play to game only to get buttfuck by monster RNG>characters not even guaranteed after a tenner pull>progession is slow as fuck >is expensive like the top 5 gachas in the market while being half assed on everything lol this game is rotting on its corpse
>>564437463you can cancel skill very early to fit and extra combo. you can also cancel the skill cast time, you need full stamina for that but if you do it frame perfect you can fit a 5th combo.video related shows average performance.
>>564408730I just pump def on ophelia because mobile control sucks balls. I used the 3 star artifact that scales with def. I'm currently level 60 now playing casual for 30 mins a day.
>>564438703>top 5 gachasname them
>>564438703>expensiveHow? The monthly is cheaper and gives more gems.
>>564439212nta and inb4>Genshin>Star Rail>Wuwa>ZZZ>EndfieldYou just know it's coming
>>564439212Your momYour sisterYour imaginary girlfriendYour grandmaYour nieceNow kys yourself
>>564437585Your argument is that your on-element 4* standard Assassin is going to be more worthwhile to field than the 5* Ice support that specifically buffs the 5* Fire unit that came before her and I can confidently say that is wishful thinking on your part.Maybe if this isn't a gacha you would've been correct
>>564438703It's literally cheaper because there's no 50/50.
>>5644387035* are 1% and there's no 50/50I think it feels like there's barely any gibs because they spread the currency way too thin with all the stuff you can do.
>>564439383>>564439386by what metric?
>>564439038Oooooh so that's how I was getting randomly 4 instead of 3 chains I must have had to dodge something so I accidently did the cancel.
Dammit. I wanted to hunt the Thunder Wolf real quick.
>get home 20 minutes before reset>game is undergoing mainenanceREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Get home>Maint againAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Why are you mad? It's free gems.
>return to abode>game is being fixedAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I will remove you from my friend list if you don't send keys.
for fucks sake, it's daily at this point
>>564443032This is the big one, hopefully that means they'll decrease in frequency but who knows.>>564443001Once the game comes back online i'll post my uid because I completely forgot to for the last week..
>>564439038Having the stam usage reduction from Jiwon's buff makes doing this a lot more comfy since you won't use up your entire bar.
>>564430812Ngl this doesn’t look like it’s doing much for fire? It adds duration to fire affliction but that’s it? At least she applies ice affliction for ice. And then the bubbles pop and deal ice damage instead of fire. What else is she doing for fire because rn it kinda is looking like a ciaccona (in wuwa) situation where she is great for aero but also applies frazzle as a neat trick.
>>564443001they gotta put a red dot on the friend tab for reset
>>564446104She's great specifically with Mina because you want to be using Mina as close to 100% of the time as you can, basically whenever you aren't using Flare or Narae skill/ult so the affliction buff is incredibly strong as if you give Flare some CDR it allows for 100% uptime on Fire Affliction as Flare applies it on her regular skill whereas Mina is limited to applying it on Ult. That's the big thing, the true "neat trick" is the AoE Ice damage on bubbles popped by Fire. She will help the currently mid-tier Ice but she will make Mina the best DPS in the game once they're both released.This is intentionally designed this way as Mina and Narae are sisters, with Mina being the elder sibling.You're right in saying she may not see much use in other Fire comps but Mina comp is the best Fire comp we will have for the foreseeable as none of the leaked characters or NPC characters we've met in the story so far appear to be Fire DPS as far as designs go.
>>564447086How helpful is the aoe ice damage in mono element shilling?
compensation status?
>>564446104mina really needs narae shield.mina charge attack take a while to fully execute and she can be interrupted at any time.so, regardless of buffs, you want narae.
>>564447405It's not a *load* of damage, but all of her skill damage is completely passive, as are the shields. So while she won't deal a massive amount of damage outside of Ice Rifts, the damage she does do is basically free with no hinderence on Mina's uptime. On Ice she is basically a sub-DPS with a massive AoE nuke as her ult and a large AoE wave as her switch. The big boon for Ice is that she applies a buffed Ice Affliction on everything except for basic attacks and switch. Yes, including the bubbles that spawn passively once her Dew Field is down.
>>564447950One Weed Cappy
>>564447950Another 100 gemmies in da bank
>love Esther>her kit is full 2009 clunk
>Korean live stream tomorrow>nothing scheduled for globalYeah they are dropping global support within few months.
bigger tits or ass?
>>564448619>Mfw I spent $70 on it
>>564448619Is it not just one mega server? I have some people with KR and JP names on my friendslist.
MISSING ROLES AMONG THE ROSTER>FireRanged Fighter(Mina Soon)Melee DestroyerRanged SupportMelee Support>IceRanged FighterMelee DestroyerMelee AssassinRanged AssassinRanged Support(Narae soon)Melee Support>EarthRanged FighterMelee DestroyerMelee AssassinRanged AssassinMelee Support>LightningMelee FighterRanged DestroyerRanged AssassinMelee SupportRanged Support>WindRanged FighterMelee DestroyerRanged Destroyer(Nagi soon)Ranged AssassinMelee Support
>>564448696I feel like it might be the seams on her pantyhose, I recall that it doesnt make much sense they way it is.
>>564448696i hope they made her shorter.
>>564448850It took genshin like 6 years to get our first hydro claymore character. And we still dont have a geo five star standard character.
>>564448979Wake me up when they'll sell a 5* character selector.
Mfw I bricked my account using all the rolls because I thought the devs wouldn't listen and got Esther A2, and I'm regretting it now.
>>564449046You get one for buying all the things that anon screenshot
>>564449082Just reroll?
>>564449046>>564449127Wait nevermind I meant that one >>564449135
>>564448850for the cbt or leaksfags are there more 4* on the line or they are going to be abandoned
>>564448979>>564449135I can see them making easy money for this game compares to others like hoyo where all they have is top up gems basically.
>>564448782yeah im pretty sure its actually a gook server since I have over 200 ms ping from US kek
>>564449135Aw yeah it's spending time.I NEED Penny.
he's attack mode now was like +300 to attack
>>564449272Genshin has packs with weapon and character xp just like this game, never hear about anyone buying them though.
>>56444913535 dollars for a standard 5 star is really fucking good if we assume they'll go for the genshin form of balance as opposed to the star rail one. You're gonna want both Flare and Ophelia anyway for Narae
>>56444897925 dollars for 40 standard rolls plus a 5 star artifact selector.
blu oro also ez
Completed the main story days ago and only just realized you can zoom all the way in and the character will look at the camera.
>>564449776Wrong image
>>564449135>>564448979>>564449776I fear I’m gonna fall victim to this
Wait you can only turn in 1 star monsterlings for the event? Holy shit I have to pray to not hit any 2 stars in this rngfest combining garbage.
heh
>>564450584Might actually buy the BP and the sub now to get a dozen extra conquest runs
I came back to HSR for the anniversary.There's just no comparison. It's a higher quality game in terms of both gameplay and writing. I just wish that they had designs on par with Esther and Rin with that level of quality.
>>564451201>HSR>writing[bait used to be believable.jpg]
The characters in this game are so pretty but the gacha rate is atrocious
Cleared the 1st chapters maps and still can't even do 1 turn in for the event lmao
Where's the rapidfire autoclicker option they talked about
Add me you /mong/rels SWUHMD
Where's your 10+ thread? You're a new game! This crap was DoA, right?
Gacha tribalism...Gacha tribalism never changes...
>>564453326don't you have a child to molest?
>>564453326No need to be threatened sis, our games are in completely different genres with completely different tones, we'll enjoy comfy hunting and cooking whilst you brood or read midwit poetry or whatever it is a "I play gacha for the story" type "person" does.
time to work on mina mats and mons
Did it bros.
>>564452018sex
>>564448696what changed?
Am I just bricked if I don't have Flare? Is Cloud a decent destroyer?
THEY EVEN FED THE MINOTAUR THIS IS WHOLESOME AS FUCK
Where do I enable hold to attack?
Why are all the destroyer artifacts besides Flare's sig so bad for her?
>>564457250>Am I just bricked if I don't have Flare?yes
how do i sweep dimension rift thing?
I chose penny over flare
>>564458479I chose Jiwon over Flare, and then still got Flare off standard anyway after wasting crystals on it
there is really only 3 spark slimes and cpl goblin?
>roll 2 esther dupe or get stuck inside her small ass circleWho asked for dps >b?
>>564453954enjoy eos
>>564458841Check the area ch. 3 zones too
>>564448738That's the secret, hype you up to spending as much as you would on a AAA game, then it doesn't even have to last a month for them to have made their money back.
>The Dimensional Rift uses a special resource called "Rift Entry Tickets" instead of stamina. You receive 3 Rift Entry Tickets at reset.>Even if you have previously cleared a Dimensional Rift stage, it cannot be skipped.what is this a full-time job?
[GREAT NEWS]The devs actually improved Esther's ass during the maintenance.Top pic is before, bottom is after.
>>564459023>gook gameYou tell me
>>564459051Nice, now it actually looks more like pantyhose.It is as I THEORIZED>>564448865
If I just finished episode 1 is it ok to start the Esther event now? How do I get the most clover badges
>>564459051Nice ass
>>564458552>wasting crystalsohnononononoyou need to save those for limited characters. you get plenty of standard compasses from side quests.
Why are you putting so much effort into keeping this thread alive when clearly almost no one is here? You know the game was a flop
>>564458845Her attacks are ranged when inside the circle.
>>564460063>How do I get the most clover badgesBy farming the last event stage.It has level 60 enemies so push the story first.
this fucker never stops doing this once he is low enough health.you MUST bring a ranged character to put him down.
>>564460789Not that anon, but if I can farm the first event stage with the level 60 enemies with only my level 50 characters, would it better to grind that out now, or should I keep pushing story and get a dps or two to 60 first? Not sure if the later stages give that much more of the event currency to make it worth
Yeah they need to change this event.They're going for making use of the capturing system but with the daily limit, on top of the luck involved to get the correct fusion AND having them being Rank 1.The requirements could be more general, like submit a Rank X fusion, or submit 10 [color] monsterlings.
>>564460657why nobody posts gameplay on your general?the closest i see are menu screenshots.
30 churu.this is actually huge!
>>564462041how do i even use this correctly?
>first event eats up your stamina so you can't build teamsDevs are really retarded.
Nice. If only I had a Dabi to give this to
>>564463132I might be wrong and someone correct me but to me, the easiest and most secure way, although will probably take months:>Look for 2 monsterlings that have gold traits you want.>Fuse them together and lock said traits with the puree.>New monsterling will inherit said traits.>If the monsterling doesn't have a desirable ability you want then fuse it again with another that does and hope the result is a higher rank + new monster while locking the traits again (20 purees used so far)>Then just rank up the monsterling with the jello's from events and weeklies.That's my understanding of the process to min max a monsterling.
>>564463929that is correct.easier still if you combine 2 of the same monster so you don't have to win that coinflip.
>>564463929Also if you're hurting for stats, just level up the monsterling with the desirable skill, regardless of trait.One good thing they did was that the level is transferable so you won't waste EXP if you level up the monsterling and later on fuse it.
I need the retard's guide for gearing your equipment and monsterlings.
And just like that, 5 chests worth of mats were wasted
>Bonnie
>>564434969Holy fucking excel spreadsheet discord circlejerk....Really brings me back to the Genshit launch days especially with the "4 stars are not worth to even talk about and if you dare to mention them I'm gonna morb and talk out of my ass about how literally unusable they are!".Also you are the most blatant samafagger dipshit imaginable holy fuck.>Muh 'most' "meta"Nice self invalidation. >Proceeds to show to not understand class affinity and roles.>Doesn't understand how fighters capitalize on quickswaps enabled by counters resetting swich skill CDs, and how units like Flare capitalize on those resets either because the spreadsheets can't account for that.>Thinks every team is an Esther glued onfield playing like a Genshit hypercarry team. Including Mina the fighter>Can't fathom what Verina does so pretends to not understand the clearly stated team and tries to draw up a retarded hypothetical where he shoehorns assassins into the fighter slot.Ammmazing self own.Then at >>564439701>ThIs Is a GaChAAnd there is gacha where literal ONE STARS are still high value. I don't give a flying fuck about what did your fucking Homoslops and Kuroshit devolved into you fucking COVID baby. >Ice support that buffs fireCan you connect the dots on what the fuck happens to your ice damage when fighting anything that isn't weak to it, or are you just this much of a path of dawn earligame shitter that still thinks Esther's best team is with Flare?Then when called out again by another anon >>564447086>Acts like hybrid elements aren't cope. But then "Yeah it isn't good for fire itself but muh thematic design because sisters and chip damage, trust the plan."Cope.The only situation where Narae has this lasting colossal value for Mina moon launching the team comp is a season or an event that has the specific dual weakness of fire and ice. Which is extremely short lived value.
>>564465620(me)Narae does have value as a support for ice especially but she's a massive red flag and dambreaker for some truly convoluted whalebait bullshit to come. Give Mina a fire type buffer and it'll be her BiS with MASSIVELY greater longevity in her team slots in a fucking instant.As for all the "MUH UPTIIIIME" about Mina: it translates to she's onfield all the time you aren't switching in and out the others depending on their cooldowns(swap skill cooldowns reset on counters which matter for fighters). That's it. That's just fucking it, you complete fucking hyperfixated tard raging autist. It's not anything special or deep.As for the counters your brain can't conceptualize they range between a fair amount and "why are you hitting yourself" depending on the bossfight. You'd know that if you played the actual game more than circlejerking on Discord.
>>564465620>>564465780This is a lot of malding for not wanting to admit that Narae is better than Leeho and Angel for Fire teams, chill bro.
>>564461342I was just facerolling the Esther-Jiwon-Francis team rotation and it just died. You do remember Esther has long reach in her dust cloud mode right?
>>564465938This is a lot of desperate samefagging for a "chill bro".This is a slow thread. You stand out like a sore thumb. Shit up some hoyothread or something.
>>564439038What do you use to record footage? Nvidia said "fuck you I didn't support this so no clips, dipshit" and I'm clueless about free recording software.
>>564466039oh, i was stalling to see if he would stop spinning.i could have switched to flare or esther at any moment or use gabi skill to finish him.but not every melee character has tools to deal with his spin attack.
>>564466470obs.you just need to run it as admin because the game runs as an elevated process.
>>564466470Fraps obviously
>>564463929>>564464286>>564464426Another, more expensive but surer way is to get 2 of the same monster with 4 different gold traits, get both of them to 5*, then combine them at the end locking all 4 gold traits with purees.You're going to lose 1 5* monster but at least you guarantee all the traits you want is there
>>564466265Nigga you don't even play this game judging from how adamant you defend your shit take. I bet you don't even have a Fire team to actually back up what you're spouting.
>>564463252that or puree then use the rank up jelly stones
>>564466762am i retarded? how do you get monsters to hold 4 traits?
>>564466762prime have 4 slots?
>>564467258purple 3 gold 4 sluts
>>564466762I thought you could only lock 2 traits.Oh god, a perfect Prime monsterling is gonna take years.
I have spent my exp mats unwisely.
Help bros. Should I get Flare's Sig or Jiwon's?
I hope I can figure this out...
wow the purple gear set sucks ass
What is brawl dmg?
>>564467545Honestly if you're okay with spending the blue/purple/gold jellies then it should take about 2-3 months per monsterling. The longest timegate is getting two of the monsterling you want that has the two gold skills you need already, which, depending on what you want, will either be pretty annoying or the biggest cancer known to man. Good fucking luck if you want a mutant boss like Huoxini or the pig
>>564436924Why are so many people insistent on this >I hope it doesn't EoS>I hope it survives...narrative?The game hit #1 in both app stores which is not counting Epic and the independent launcher, which are bigger sources of money. It's already earning exponentially more than it costs.The devs have been constantly improving the game too and showed they genuinely take feedback and try to improve the experience. At this point IT CANNOT DIE.Look at what Snowbreak, NIKKE, WuWa etc. came back from. The only thing that can EoS a gacha nowadays is internal sabotage or extreme retardation of somebody in charge.Mongil is just not in the circlejerk of the American gacha tourists which is a fucking great thing but it won't last long because the game is bound to explode in popularity at the half year or 1st anniversary as they usually do...Inb4 CZN: Retarded project lead and anti-player activists continuously enshittifying both the game and story.
>>564466916Yeah yeah go back to your discord hugbox already....
>>564468417you can transplant the stats onto the bases, its just gonna be more expensive and pray it actually ends up in the base you want
>>564466531Well switch in is a gapcloser so you got some ammo... X,D
wtf?!flare loves me. a3 now.got her double too on the 50 roll selector banner.
gib keiHOPQSU
>>564469395>HOPQSUbro, i already gave it to you.
>>564468838>Snowbreakaren't they still stuck in maintenance?
>>564469528they went full retard and collab with government agency
>>564468838Nitascholar....
is this normal?
>>564459051Well shit man now I HAVE to spend more money.
>>564468838The difference is that all those gachas made a lot of noise at launch. Good or bad, press is press. Mongill's launch didn't make much réaction among the audience
She is so cute...I'm Goslinging so hard right now...
>>564468838those games have china whales
who has the bigger ass between francis and angel
>>564469886Those gachas were literally assumed dead until they started blasting the sponsorships at anniversaries to show off how much better they got. What the hell are you on. The more streamers you buy out the more noise you get. You could say the low key release on the west was by design considering the absolute cancer any mainstream attention gives to a community.
should I use higher tier monsterling with shit trait, or is trait more important
>>564469808>5 stones in 1 battlewtf explode
they have their own cute potato alchemist.
>>564469963>Koreage>China whalesWut?Hell do you have any idea how much Koreans blast on autistic P2W grindfests? The game starting this bad was by design to gauge how much are the Koreans going to tolerate.
>>564470096good traits on shit monster effects > good monster effects with shit traits. But the best way to start is to amass a bunch of high rarity good traits then find a monster with an effect that best fits your character.
>>564469528They coomed too close to the sun and God Emperor Mao smited them.The game itself was doing massively successfully.
>hello, my name is jugswhat did she mean by that?
>>564470554She IS the sex industry.
>>564470445seasun game failed everything they do that's supposed to be a successsame with mecha breakit's amazing
How do employed people juggle 3+ gachas? Do they just stop doing dailies/weeklies in some?
>>564470693Honestly I find doing dailies far easier than keeping up with new stories or large events.
>>564470693that's what I do, a lot of them slowed down their events too they're usually more than 2 weeks and I just finish them wheneverif you've played through the honeymoon period you stop caring about dailies
>>564470693Anon the dailes and weeklies take like 5-10 min. If anything it's easier for employed people to get into.
>>564470804I must somehow resist the must have every piece of gacha rock hyperfixation I guess...
>>564470848Depends. Some game has random shit to micromanage that ramps up to like a hour each.
>>564470953should also stop caring about meta and roll with your dick, chasing meta in these gacha game is the biggest bait they'll just keep pushing new mechanic to shill new characters
>>564470604Geez how triggered are you?
>>564471158>But but muh waifu gets so stronk with-Is the brainrot I need to fix really....
>>564471158Lets not forget the endgame modes of these games give out like 4 rolls if you are lucky and you usually need to spend 100s to clear the endgame.
are low tier monster only good for combining, even if they have gold trait combining with high tier monster will drop their grade?what kind of rng hell is this shit
Sex with bonnie
>>564471869up is 3*down is 2*don't know if the gains are way better on 4* and 5*, but so far, they are marginal.
>>564471869manuallly combine them with another purple+ affix and pray 1 of them survive + goes up a tierhonestly i would only do this for green+ unless you wanna sift through a fuckton of greysan alternative is to lock gold and transfer them onto good bases and use the jelly to rank up but at this stage of the game i would only transplant onto link bases since the rank up jelly thing is super limitedwhen you batch combine it defaults to not using any of the traits on them mobs
feels good
>>564470693Hell I'm unemployed and I still play 2 gacha at most
who is better the slut nurse or daisy?
kots caught in the act.
>>564472271>fire reswasted substat, back to the mines you go.
>>564472314use whoever you like more.both seem to do the job.
anyone know if rank effect works on the non active slut?
>>564472314Slut nurse has an attack buff to the character she switches to, and all her shit scales with attack so she's quite the harmacist.If you get an earth DPS is even better because she also buffs earth.Daisy is a pure healer scaling with HP.Slut nurse is also just pure sex so she looks WAY better on the screen.
>>564472314the loli gets resurection after her 6 dupe and her healing is HP based. the slut healing is based on her ark
Who the hell are you?
>>564475283>Slut nurse is also just pure sex so she looks WAY better on the screen.that is a negative.how can you concentrate with a raging bonner?
>>564434969We don't have practical data on fully built 4 stars. Assassins do offield shit then nuke the boss during stun, which you cause quicker with your dedicated stun unit.Esther is not played correctly "in the most meta" and will massively fall off as the onfielder in endgame because she lacks the fighter/destroyer stat, but she'll keep doing great in the assassin role. The standard male wind unit, herself and Jiwon is actually the best wind team, discord just hates these gay male units as hard as unicorns do.>>564430812I'd love to try the copium you are huffing. She's a support on off-element meaning her damage will be double nerfed with weak class+being resisted.But I absolutely see the "go Awakenings+Fusions or kill yourself" coming. Also you may need to get ready to mald because if she is half as ultra good as you think then Mina and Flare will be actually redundant as fuck and Narae will just wheelchair shit like fucking Verna+Cloud through everything as good supports usually do in these games, because nothing devalues your "top tier DPS" more than godly supports. LMFAONarae's bubble mechanic only needs you to piss around just barely wide enough AoE.Since this game involves more effort, reflexes and motor skills than a turn based slop like HSR the balancing will also be way less of a pass the stat+gimmick check out fucking die, and way less inclined to push hard powercreep. Unless of course Rift or a 2.0 of it will become something seriously competitive.
is there no filter for trait's grade? I have to look for them one by one?
>>564459051Looks good looks like they increased polygons, I hope they buff others soon
>>564475916The rift is one of the sources for mutations.
ellie feels really strong
>>564459051Damn erotic maid seducing her noble master with this lewd body! She must take responsibility by carrying my children!!!
>>564475283Does her ATK buff scale with her ATK or the teammate's ATK?
>>564475629im still pissed they nerfed my loli by removing HP based monsters...Put in suggestions to just let people choose the main monster stat if they are going to do this...
>>564480320Using healers in this game is a sign of skill issue, just dodge.
>>564448979>>564449135>two more selectorsThey're sure desperate for money.Is the game even playable as F2P at this point? When spenders already have 2x 5* units and 3x 5* weapons
>>564480958It's not a PvP game. I'm a F2Play and I can play the game perfectly fine...
Where's the hold lmb for attack and auto walk options they were talking about? I can't find them anywhere.
>>564481558Check the official patch notes it isn't mentioned anywhere, looks like they're having second thoughts. Incompetent devs.I suggest using AHK to get a simple script running so you dont break your left clicker, been using it for 5 years still no ban on any gacha game so far.
>>564467847Jiwon's is dogshit because it has terrible uptime
>>564480958>f2pstart no life grinding gweilo
>>564481558don't you have the R hotkey now bottom right for autowalk?
>>564481995They can't simply do it, because some characters require you to hold down the attack button to do special attacks.
>>564482238They can just make it if you release rapidfire it stops rapidfiring like my script or any chink mouse feature, but I guess that's too hard
>defeat the boss>game bugs and doesn't compute>have to redo itCool.
>>564483157Oh, it's completely bugged out. I left and restarted and now the fight won't start.
>>564483262it's over
>>564483589Restarting the game fixed it...
the trait autism is killing me
is it worth leveling the 4 stars?
Didn't they promise auto-lock trait feature for rare traits? Where is that?
Maid's slow ass banner is killing the game.I want the fox seductresses now!
Threads of Fate ass game
>they still haven't fixed disappearing monster bug
Come play the better netmarble gameEscanor today and Merlin and Eli next so you have time to farm for themHere's gooner skin leak since that's all you care about
>>564484557>>564481558READ
>>564489570I'm not playing that censored trash.
>this fox bitch just says love the moment a man gives her a pep talk in her dreami expected a bit more foreplay than this
>>564490445That pep talk was also out of character for Cloud, to suddenly say all that stuff.
>>564489570Sorry but I won't play your censored slop where they replaced panties with safety shorts.
What even is Elemental Weakness DMG? Is it a multiplier to Elemental DMG?
>>564493753Pretty sure it's applied if the target you're hitting is weak to the element you're using and the numbers are colorful
>>564495470Pretty sure any elemental damage does the same thing.
>>564490445She's very lonely please understand.
Uh bros? Why does Amon deal "dark" damage? Is this a sign we'll eventually get light and dark characters? I hope they won't be a separate whale banner like most games that have light and dark characters..
>>564493753Increases the damage that character deals to enemies weak to their element. So if Esther has it and attacks an enemy weak to wind she'll deal 10% more damage. It's good but crit damage + crit chance is the ideal, especially now you don't need to hope the monsterling also has atk as the base stat and can farm the currency used to lock monsterling traits, meaning the hardest part now is getting these traits on a particular monsterling, since the patch happened i've managed to get both Gold Crit Damage and Purple Crit Rate on an Amon. The most time consuming part will be doing it for 3 monsterlings per character.
>>564491962It's perfectly in character for him to give a basic "ganbare!" shounen speech.Considering Verna has self confidence issues in the past that are now gone it explains why does she want him so bad too.
>just spent 10mil gold on combining with nothing worthwhile to showamazing
>>564498439>combiningThat feature is worthless and a waste of resources, it's basically impossible for any monsterling to have a passive and 2-3 stats that form any cohesive combination. All you get is a bunch of blues and purples with resistances
>>564498439Just wait few more weeks until they fix it.I'm building characters and cubes in the meantime.
>>564447086>>564427881>>564430812>>564465938Holy essay.>She's great specifically with Mina because you want to be time as you can, basically whenever you aren't using Flare or Narae skill/ult so the affliction buff is incredibly strong as if you give Flare some CDR it allows for 100% uptime on Fire Affliction as Flare applies it on her regular skill whereas Mina is limited to applying it on Ult.Flare applies affliction with tag out skill. Switch and tag out CDs reset when you do an evasion counter.Abusing more frequent uses of her switch and tag out is exactly what you want to do with her. Yes even in a Mina team.A fire buffer for the fire team would be infinitely better in every aspect conceivable.>That's the big thing, the true "neat trick" is the AoE Ice damage on bubbles popped by Fire. She will help the currently mid-tier Ice but she will make Mina the best DPS in the game once they're both released. Try clearing anything with off-element.No not even a "main DPS" will do this colossal damage or even a notable amount of chip damage when resisted.Being resisted also nerfs suppression damage.She offers nothing in the damage department against fire weakness, she's a buffbot in a game where even Daisy runs a crit DPS build.>Muh uptime>Muh uptime>Muh uptimeType like a human being and just say onfield DPS without autistically typing up paragraphs of gobbledigook.The game already holds your hand even telling you exactly when to swap.>What's she made for then!?Dual weakness shilling shit like Esther's mobbing events(that's no doubt going to get way harder in the future, this test run is a freebie if you got on element level 60), Rifts and whatever other whalebait gamemodes they cook up very specifically with Fire+Ice. Her off-field ice output being axed without fire on the team is also a big fuck you making her a replaceable ice support too when the DEDICATED ice support comes out.
>>564502437Esther will be also just fine because the upcoming wind destroyer fixes her team's lack of suppression damage and her team already had a DEDICATED wind support.>But muh shields Unironic skill issue.
>>564497763Better question is, is whether it's resisted or not.
reminder you will NEED team for all element
>>564503845Yeah well they better drop a dps that isn't just Gabi and Penny for Earth/Dark>just use Ellie and Yeonhwa broI am and they're ass...
>>564504298Yeonhwa is a decent sub-dps, she needs A1 and Crit gear though. Generally Lightning is just in a bad place..
>>564503845Yeah after they will release a premium dps for respective elements.Ain't building bricks like Penny or Gabi.
>>564504298Destroyers are the stunners of this game and the assassins are the ones blowing their load during the stun window. It really isn't the Genshin Impact and WuWa combat the reoccurring autist thinks it is. It's more like ZZZ with less frequent parries...
