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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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*abandons*
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Behold, the CHAMPION of this week's Night Shift tournament!
Say something nice!
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Bebop gets 60% weapon damage for hitting his combo and you're telling me Gunbop was not viable before the buffs?
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This image was made around the time the first leaks of Deadlock were coming out
Is it still accurate?
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>>564469993
*goes 1/16/2*
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>>564470003
gunbop and tankbop have been better than bombbop for a long time, but most people still just want to play with the bombs.
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>>564470150
get a life, faggot
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>>564470085
>ayyylmao
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>>564470085
>derek chauvin
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First for Archon GODS.
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i downloaded this game because of mina and i don't even like playing as her
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>>564470150
>>564470305
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cant wait till bebop is nerfed so people stop picking my main
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>>564470150
why was this deleted
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>>564470524
he deleted it himself

who cares its some guy who wants to be a thread celebrity
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so this is the power of super duper secret /dlg/ only S tier
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silver isn't OP because of her skills or stats. she's chosen as a sexual distraction for the enemy team.
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>>564470590
>lomein (no. 1 deadlock player and cute breedable asian twink) vs. some literal who
this isn't commentary on the power level of the heroes
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>>564470654
No that’s Ivy
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Sex with Venator
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>>564470518
but then your main will be nerfed anon....
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>i'm dogshit
>but get six games in a row where I'm somehow the closest thing to competent or even human on my team
>versus super saiyan eternus smurf rapemasters
>for like six games straight
>followed by games against seeker 5 geriatrics I can't possibly lose to
this shit is killing me
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>>564470692
people who enjoy heroes never pick them because they are good but because they are fun
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There is ZERO (0) solo carry potential in this game. You categorically CANNOT do anything if any single person on your team feeds. It is mathematically impossible to not get stat-checked.
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>>564470679
Calm down Graves!
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why do people say "play your life" instead of "retreat and survive"
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Reported only 2 parryniggers today, we're slowly winning.
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>>564470679
Calm down Drifter!
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>>564470993
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>564471030
meds
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>>564471030
I parried your report
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>>564470669
>lomein
he looks like a potato
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>>564471424
attractive teens don't play video games for 15 hours a day
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>>564471424
the potato is the white man's vegetable
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>After 3 losses in a row
>Next one my team carries me hard
Hmmmm
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>>564471424
he was cute before he shaved his head and had long hair
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>>564470880
>Disable muting comms unless that player has a 51% WR or better
>Make the minimap 2x bigger for oracle and below
>mandatory 10 minute tutorials on wave management if their creep score is below rank average
>patron voicelines calling out shitters going 0/10
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I love spamming missing pings with Vyper because she says her voiceline in a way that makes my dick tingle. Seriously, her voice acting is so sexy.
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why did valve let yamato have placeholder unvoided panties that dig into her placeholder plump ass but didn't let any of the other women have that
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How fucking long is this bitch head? She's like the only human character with proportions this cartoonish.
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ayyylmao
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>>564472303
>human character
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>>564471030
based
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>>564471541
Hot
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>>564472303
She's trains at the 図書館
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Graf: Durable - Old - Regal
>Weapon: Noblesse Oblige
>fancy cane wand, auto-targeting beam weapon like graves
>heavy melee makes him draw a sword from it
>1: Paragon | Active: creates a copy of Graf at the cast point with a delayed explosion around it (scaling radius), maxed out makes the damage based on max HP %
>2: Graceful Flow | Active: move forward, enemies he passes by get a spirit resist debuff, maxed out makes Graf immune to movement penalties for a brief period
>3: Undying Charisma | Passive: adds a % HP regen bonus based on how many allied heroes are near Graf, can be cast to disable the regen bonus until CD and cast heal around the radius. Maxed out includes fire rate bonus and lifesteal when cast.
>4: Forced Ceasefire | Active: Global Silence when cast, maxed out also applies outgoing gun damage debuff to affected enemies
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>>564472406
how big do you think her penis is
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>>564472718
>futafags
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thoughts on the upcoming Hideo Kojima hero?
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>>564472809
Vindicta but with unblurred feet and 8k textures soles
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>>564472794
shut up coomer
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>Oh boy I sure do love Silver
>Now it's time to play a match as her
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>get a faggot who says drifter sucks because "the team just deathballs"
>lose in part because he's a whiny bitch who doesn't do anything
>next three games get an enemy drifter who puts his claw deep in the team's butthole
Maybe EOMM actually is real...
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Pisslow ritualist here, when does Ivy become unviable? So far spirit support Ivy is getting me pretty consistent wins
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We're in period of fortune with match ids starting with 777 right now, peace on earth
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melee/parry system is half baked
almost there but needs something
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>>564473620
At lower ranks Ivy is great because she can be lane janny and join fights, though at some point the m1 carries want the sidelanes. Then her janny potential gets weaker.
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>>564473745
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>Silver lost all her night shift games
It feels nice to be vindicated that she can't do shit even when these fake (((pros))) scream she is le op
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>>564473797
Parry stun reduction as a stat that scales with the purchase of items, probably green items, as well as a small stat increase directly on melee items
there
now you can have your intense parry bait high risk high reward melees in laning phase while not making parries assrape all melee heroes after lane
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is spirit lifesteal + soul shredder bullets any good or is it not worth stacking lifesteal in this way
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people just hate silver because she's a trans woman
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>>564474105
every single melee character has some combo of a stun to guarantee heavy melee, a move that scales with melee damage, or unstoppable to ignore being parried
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counterspelling should stun the caster for 10 seconds
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>>564473089
this is what i do to kelvin mains

that stupid sexy big butt slut...
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>>564474467
counterspelling should kick the caster and revoke their playtester key
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>>564469916
this is the only ship that canonically will never happen. not the love part at least. mina would much rather fuck vic or geist.
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>>564474745
I think Pocket not being into girls would be the main reason, anon.
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>>564474218
One heavy melee every time said ability is up (you still get parried if they buy debuff resist) is not a viable build
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>>564474124
its good, only takes 1 shot for 8s of extra lifesteal. and it nearly doubles your lifesteal
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>>564474851
Pocket serves ixian men.
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>>564473884
dev should just make her the only true split scaler with a viable gun human only build and viable werewolf only spirit bruiser build
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>>564473817
>at some point the m1 carries want the sidelanes. Then her janny potential gets weaker.
Is it possible to make up for that by trying to steal enemy camps more often?
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>>564475165
No actual health scaling is criminal
Increase the % heal with max hp
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>>564475302
Well yea of course it's just that her lane pressure becomes less powerful when people naturally meet waves at higher ranks.
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>duration doesn't increase rescue beam duration
I wouldn't even mind if it just stopped healing at the increased duration, there's a lot of utility in kidnapping teammates
An ivy could grab one teammate and rescue beam another and drop move three fucking people from one gank to another
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>>564475324
Nah the % heal is criminal and should be removed from the ult
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>>564472303
>human
She was an alien in Neon Prime
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>>564474851
that too. the only way pocket could conceive an heir is if mina pegged his prostate and used his seed
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>Silver canonically got creampied by my nigga Big Abe
now it fucking make sense, I now understand /dlg/'s weird hatred against her
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The community is waking up to how overpowered parries are
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>>564475813
>Was fun before he picked up a book
Too real
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just played a first time rem in street brool and anally raped everyone (dwiftuh especially) with my pillows
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street brool match doesn't count tho
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name just one (1) thing more satisfying than light melee spamming a rem whos running away from you when hes out of stamina
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>>564476074
>t. the raped
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>twice now an apollo with larp in their name has thrown my games and said "it's just an alpha bro"
>they're seperate accounts
this game is making me go schizophrenic
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>>564476118
jokes on you rem has autocheats on
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>>564476118
Hitting a perfectly totally legit parry because I somehow managed to read the first light melee even though it's not reactable
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>>564474218
Melee is still a meme build on these characters because they have to do some echo shard chain stun nonsense to do the same damage as a dynamo/doorman pressing his 1 button vaguely in the direction of an enemy
I don't see people melee unless they're Billy, they just shoot the enemy even if they can't parry because melee is five items and 22,400 souls of investment that could be spent on literally anything better
>>564475021
Trvth...
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>>564475813
always knew dlg was a bunch of self insert faggot sissies
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I'm having fun rushing decay on Vindicta right now, I can't aim so it's more fun to go alchemical fire/rescue beam/decay
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>>564476004
>>564476148
Nah he's right if pillow build works it wasn't a real match
Best way to build rem is to literally not level pillow until every single other ability is levelled, even in brool because rem troopers in brool mean basically infinite lane pressure
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>tfw its true
what is the least painful way of an heroing bros?....
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>>564475895
Can't believe it took people this long to catch on, why have a mechanic as useless as melee when it opens you up to 3 seconds of hard CC and damage amp
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If you don't pick helpers first and use them off cooldown on creeps you're griefing
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>>564476395
its ok, you can settle down with silver
her abrams cock stretching days are over
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>>564476343
don't forget to apply your hemorrhoid cream tonight, anon
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>>564473884
Anyone got the art of silver getting a belly rub?
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>>564476395
whos body count is higher? silvers or abrams?
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>>564470085
Big bitch made me spit out my drink
Yamato was spot on
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The absolute most honest way to play deadlock is going a melee build on a hero who has no stuns
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>>564476395
>>564476472
None of these interactions seem ex worthy I won't lie
Its obvious they're just drinking buddies.
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>>564476395
my hotpast wife...
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>>564476247
An unfortunate consequence of India gaining access to the internet.
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>>564476435
>Buy helpers first
>level helpers to tier three before putting a single point into any other ability
>obliterate enemy tower before sinners spawn giving lane partner plenty of room to steal it AND eat ours
>everytime they try to gank me or someone near me I instantly tag along and restore their entire health bar with rescue beam
I may end the match with no damage but that's because the scoreboard doesn't track psychological damage
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PULL.
BACK.
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>>564476598
isn't it canon that Holliday had 2 divorces and 1 current husband?
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>Hmm this Victor hero just walks at people and statchecks them let's gut him and give that option to Infernus and Abrams instead (without the downsides) because they're never allowed to be bad for more than a week
Why
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>>564477050
silver is an alcoholic who regular barhops and has friends with benefits
abrams is a typical noir detective
i can't see anyone being higher than them, maybe only drifter
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>>564477214
Low elo shitters kept crying about Victor despite him being the most balanced hypercarry
>Has an actual bad early/midgame
>Requires 40k+ souls to come online
>Countered by silences and anti heal
Enjoy your venator, warden and Infernus who are strong at every stage of the game lol
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>>564477604
transformed silver is the only woman who can handle abrams sized cervix obliterator cock
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chat was my ivy cheating?
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>>564477214
I promise you I'd much rather have old gun abrams back than this fucking spirit bullshit.
>only good builds are meme spirit or going hybrid which is just spirit build but instead of witchmail you get crushing fists
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>>564477830
her gun has pretty nasty circular spray bro
its literally just a hose you try to dump into someone pretty close
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>>564477604
drifter ate all of his body count man that doesn't count
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>>564476395
What Silver did before the ritual is not our business
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Seriously what advantage does victor hae over Abrams? Victor’s 3 hits himself, his 2 doesn’t heal for shit, meanwhile Abrams can spam his dash in the endgame repositioning enemies and escaping, two stuns, better aura, and Abrams ult is objectively better.
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So that's why she is trying to bang celeste...her horse cock is the only thing that can compare..
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Just play gun victor bro.
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>>564478214
You misunderstand Victor. Everything he does is based around making sure that his 1 is always up.
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>>564476665
They clearly had sex just as clearly that silver is lesbian with celeste
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>>564478214
>better DPS on 3 in lieu of self healing
>insane debuff resist which makes stuns not do anything to him
>a spirit nuke that hits for 50000000000000 trillion damage and self heals even more on top of all your lifesteal
>revive that's an AOE slow + stun
Victor is just an actual traditional carry where he's not The Best early game. The problem is that every other carry IS the best at all stages of the game that's why he doesn't do anything.
What you need are carries to get nerfed, not for abrams to get nerfed.
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>>564476395
You must learn to be a better man and accept that what Silver did before our relationship is none of my business. Plus, a high bodycount just means that she's more experienced at sex.
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>>564478214
the other guy do be correct
>>564478686

victor's 1 heals him a fuckload and is also a nuke, victor's 2 is a dishonest debuff stopper, victor's 3 is a stink aura so all the spirit effects can be stacked so the 1 obliterates them and the 4 is just a reincarnation
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Trannies and incels not understanding human interaction championship
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Anon getting baited by a samefag championship
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kiss already you incels
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I hate this fucking retard nigger game so much, fucking retard team running down mid, then bitching at me for lane jannying. Had some fuck say "why are you running urn with the enemy team alive" when it was a comeback urn at 12 minutes. Are these even humans, i want to know are these even fucking humans??? These mongoloids lost a 1v2 under our yellow walker to a dynamo, then lost the walker and bitched at me for janying green, fuck these fags
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speaking of incel, idk why but Drifter might be one. the guy just doesn't have an ounce of lust for anyone
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Remove parries. I am not joking.
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I'm a transwoman girlfailure femcel and am eternus 6, if it matters :3
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>>564479672
I main doorman btw :3
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>>564479487
I don't think you know what incel means
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>>564479487
He's more of a volcel, like Venator
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add parry charges, im not even joking
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>>564479897
>drifter a volcel
I'm sure he sometimes rapes a bit to spice up the murder and torture
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>>564479987
We already have they they're called STAMINA except for some reason parries don't use it
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Slightly up extend self stun on missed parry so you can't just just double jumping over punishes
Make light melee parries not stun but instead do a chunk of damage
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>>564480147
Light melee parries should disarm and disable melee attacks and parry for 3 seconds
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>>564479996
doesn't he eat his victims? what is there to rape
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I'm eternus btw
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>>564480147
they should add grappling to counter parries, imagine being able to grab and hold onto people like in fall guys if they parry
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>>564480265
they should add a fall guys gamemode for the movement sickos
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My favorite april fools moment? Getting 17 pillows thrown at me by a bunch of stupid chuds.
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>survey asked me how powerful Kelvin and Dynamo are
Of course I'm answering 5. Actually, do they even check the results of these?
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Lash abrams duo R combo is sick
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Which deadlock character is canonically an incel. I need to know so I can main them.
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>>564481526
Bebop
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>>564481526
Bebop doesn't have a penis so
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>>564481526
Drifter
Verification
Not
Required
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>>564481272
They're not getting nerfed because I main those characters and I answered 1 on the poll, more buffs are incoming actually
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>>564479487
he's very gay towards mirage and venator
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Lucky shot item that works on melees when
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>>564481593
>>564481594
robots can't be incels
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>>564481794
He's a golem.
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>>564481687
drifter rapes so he's not celibate
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>yamato bought unstoppable
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>>564481272
>he didn't realize that last gigantic patch that raped the balance and the wraith changes were a result of the survey yet
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>>564481784
This would turn Viscous and Billy into child molestors for like a week before the rush to nerf it
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>>564471541
Sometimes I do such abysmal plays that I'd need to hear the patron say "Paradox, what the fuck are you doing" to get back on track
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>>564481784
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>>564481594
Nah, Bebop definitely has a secret robo-dildo attacthment, hidden beneath his potato sack pants. He uses it to blow out sexy broads after he rapes Lash in the bear-pit
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>you can buy items that reduce melee damage taken
>melee damage is already reduced by bullet resistance
Yet another reason why parries should be removed.
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>>564479987
Literally just make the parry stun shorter & cooldown longer and add a 1600 shop item that buffs stun duration. Give Billy a 55% win rate, he deserves it more than Seven.
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>>564482561
Remove parry stun entirely, why is it even here?
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>>564481526
Pocket
Warden
Venator
Seven
Apollo
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>>564481526
lash, vyper, rem, paige
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>>564481921
Actually a must have sometimes, can't do shit when the curses roll in otherwise
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YOU'RE MINE
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AAAAH TRY TO BE NICE
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I am really dizzy and I don't know why. Maybe this is how I die /dlg/.
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guys why didn't my mark register on the shitleste
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>>564483841
don't worry about it
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>>564483574
It wouldn't be that bad of a way to go my man
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this item would suck
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>>564484131
>active component
>doesn't even fucking have the active text in the item image
KILL
ALL
COOMERS
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>>564484131
>Russian text
Of fucking course. Ivan just can't stop gooning to tranny porn.
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you just know
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>>564484449
that all of her ex husbands are black?
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>Hollidays ult refreshes when she successfully lassos an enemy
there fixed
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cmon there's gotta be a way to port him into deadlock
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>>564484449
>https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=astro_allies_no_attack_01.mp3
There's really a voiceline for this? kek
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>bebop is the highest pickrate in eternus+ and sitting at 49,5% winrate
all it took was for '''''''''''pros''''''''' to pick him once and all the mindless goycattle immediately started picking him too
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>>564484843
we only get like 3-5 characters a year bro, you got a while before they start adding the really gimmicky ones
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someones mad at bobep lmao
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They need an extended story on how Pocket got his name. I bet it was Calico who castrated him.
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>>564485472
kys faggot
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>>564485472
>the shuffleboard cue
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>>564478843
Carries honestly do need to get nerfed desu.
>but but the game doesn’t have carries
Fuck off, several heroes are just outright better at others come late game and with even slightly amounts of farm. A 50k seven is going to be a lot scarier than a 50k rem
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why is Infernus black? Ixians are supposed to be Red, Abrams is an exception since he's albino or something
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>>564485952
Burnt
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>>564485952
I think he's supposed to be half ixian not fully ixian. Either that or there's multiple different races of ixians. It's a whole seperate world after all.
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>>564485952
He's an igger
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>have 0 10 celeste on team
>have chain feeding 2 12 yamato on team
>enemy has dynamo and lash
>win anyway because the enemy also had silver
LMAO EVERY TIME
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is volvo banning fov increase config edits yet
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Genuinely believe that all brawl tards should get killed. Fucking retard team running it down mid lane when down 30k, comeback urn available and the jungle untouched for the past 5 minutes, i go to get urn and the fags start bitching at me for not joining their homo brawl. Its so obvious that these fags come from overwatch and rivals, just brool brool brool, fuck looking at the map, fuck gathering souls we gotta BROOOOOL
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>>564487526
even the 90 FOV that the game lets you pick in the settings feels like its too much for me, prefer 80 since 90 makes aiming with m1gers too fucked. Though i do have a tiny 19" monitor, i suppose that with 24 and especially 27 inch monitors going beyond 90 could work
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>>564487538
in my last couple of games i've had nothing but broolers and my mains are calico and apollo, but i've pretty much just been sidelaning and jannying with jungle inbetween and winning. and these guys had the gall to ask how i had such low kp on a ganking hero
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>>564484880
me every single game
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>>564487738
>seven asks why such low KP on a gank hero
>ask him back why such low cs on a farm hero
>he shuts up for the rest of the game
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>>564487737
slider should start at 90
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>>564487538
You are not in the pro leagues buddy
If you are down that much, comeback is impossible unless enemy team just throws
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>know how to secure + deny souls
>know at least 4 heroes (1 is a support)
>still learning the ebin movement mechanics
now I want to learn how to tell when should I visit other lanes, besides the obvious that is your teammates asking for help what are some other tells that I should help other lanes?
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>>564488254
Just be yourself
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>>564476593
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>>564488254
Fuck others, just assume you are playing a single player game
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When does this game... get announced?
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>>564488395
And here's a bonus
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>>564488475
in 3 hours
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>>564488254
gank when you have lane prio (your troopers are pushing towards enemy guardian) you can also gank easily with zip speed boost, especially towards blue
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Paige is such an easymode character that I consistently see ultbot Paiges get 100k+ player damage
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>>564470993
because your life is a resource and can be spent. it could be spent to trade for a walker for example.
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what if they added a sideboss
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>>564488254
look at the map and see if the nearby lanes have enemies just sitting outside of your tower range, that usually means your teammates are getting shit on and would benefit from a gank.
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what if they added your mom
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What if they after sex based minigames with the hideout Abrams
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>>564470993
it's battle royale speak.
it means play in a way that prioritizes your own life, usually said when your teammates are downed and not in a good position to recover from. in short, it means don't die to try to save them.
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>>564487538
Honestly when I’m not playing hypercarries I’ve just been playing heroes that *can* scale into the late game (like kelvin) so I have the choice of supporting the brawlers (if we’re winning the stupid brawls) or fucking off and farming (if the team is feeding).

Also, even though brooling is stupid trophy collector makes it somewhat more valuable. Yeah yeah, I know pros said it sucks- but if your team is constantly brawling and you need to be around to ensure they don’t just feed (but you lose farm in the process) at least you’ll be able to keep some momentum
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what if they added sex based minigames with mina mains
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I literally dont understand that I am BETTER and losing rank when I do more damage and play better there's just a mandatory feeding retard on my team every game
mina spends entire first 10 minutes sucking infernus cock and then wonders why he can just solo the entire game by spamming flame dash and instakilling everyone
Image
so fucking sick of infernus bro
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Mina is Asian you freaks, stay on your own lanes white and black devils
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>>564490257
Asian women are built for everything except asian men
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>>564469993
>"Honey, can you help me with the groceries?"
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all i need is my beautiful equine wife
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>>564473270
>Maybe EOMM actually is real...
you basically have to be delusional to not think it. I lost 7 games in a row with team mates going 0-10 each. took a day break and suddenly I'm on the opposite side of the coin again.
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>>564490440
If she's equine, why do some of her death screams sound like caprine bleating
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>>564474105
I love the way fags who weren't here for debuff resist working on parry self report.
>>564475895
>It's one autistic faggot (you) astroturfing and posting off cooldown all thread. Do you think you're subtle or something? You're an extremely predictable retard and get parried a bunch. Skill issue. I can't even tell you the last time I got parried it happens so sparingly and I'm E3.
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>these people exist
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>>564490538
if this were any other modern pvp game i would believe you or at least be willing to entertain the idea but i feel like deadlock's MM is too abysmal to actually have any sort of algorithm to it
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>>564490720
did the match get abandoned before or after that
what prompted him to say that
and obviously ivy is the bat gf
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Silver bros how do you manage to get out of poverty central, every game I end up nearly the poorest even in games I do well.
Farming jungle is out of the picture since the speed is attrocious, should I camp enemy sinners maybe and try to steal bags?
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>>564490945
punch camps
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>>564490927
he typed this immediatly at load in and dc-ed for a green leave...mina onetricks mental illness
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>>564491179
unprompted? was he just miffed that he didn't get his prio-1 hero?
moba fags, i swear.
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>>564490796
It's just that Eomm is not properly tuned right now and is rigging very obviously. But it's not a priority to fix it since it keeps the shitters happy by giving them free wins.
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>>564491267
>keeps shitters happy
>everyone at all skill levels bitches about how god awful matchmaking is
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>>564488254
>when should I visit other lanes
get wave prio. once you have wave prio, look at the map to see if there's something you can do
ganks, stealing camps, sinners, boxes, or even camping the lane to kill the lane janny. just whatever you do do not zip back to base like a fucking mongoloid after clearing waves. do something productive.
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>>564470305
post paige build
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>>564476665
Would be funny as fuck if he's actually just not replying to her
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>>564477930
Is there an item that reduces bullet spread or am I imagining things
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>>564492201
I mean if there's a deviation then the further along a distance you go the more it spreads. Higher velocity could offset this and make the spread less apparent by getting somewhere quicker, leading to less deviation. Probably what you're thinking of.
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>Vindicta and Talon are some of the best rescue beam users
>I have literally never seen either of them buy it in any of my games
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>why is a hero who is supposed to kill niggas not buying an item for SUPPORTS
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>>564492243
hehehe, you see that shit?
>>564492359
it's the same with ivy. she can pull people mid flight. she could pull one person and rescue beam another and save two people. yet I'm the only Ivy I know that does it.
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>>564492429
Vindicta gets extended item range while in flight. It's 3k for a potentially game saving thing. The only thing stopping stacking 6 of them on a team is cause they're selfish and don't realise the value or they just don't have the active slots available in their build.
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>>564490720
seriously everyone already knows mina belongs to me
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>>564484131
no it'd vibrate
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>>564492931
I say five because his ult has counterplay and mindgames with CS.
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>doorman ulted me
>I got sent to the hotel
>then immediately got teleported out
what the fuck happened? I did parry it with counterspell and it went on cooldown but I'm pretty sure you can't block getting teleported to the hotel just the damage and stun it does
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>>564484131
make sure to post this on the forums
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>>564485472
SODOM WILL BURN
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Does Billy have a human penis or a goat penis
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>>564493237
Yeah I suppose, I love playing Lash but I've been lagging a ton and my inputs don't go through which SUCKS
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>>564490257
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuko_Aoyama
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deranked from this oh my godddd I LOVE DYNAMO
>melee apollo feeding bebop bomb stacks nonstop
>drifter literally just dying as much as he possibly can
>seven that doesnt push any objective ever
>mo being a fat retard and burrow warpstone teleporting bebop bombs to the team
>dynamo on a perma killstreak cus drifter just ints and gets stomped and tethered and raped
Actually so god damn stupid
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>>564494467
Ask Vyper
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>>564494602
>cheating
You deserved that loss
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>>564485472
completely incorrect goat penis + silver definitely has a sheath and dog cock in human form + dog cocks don't have heads like gross human cocks do
>>564494467
he didn't just replace his one head iykwim
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>>564494714
Silver has a juicy and puffy cookie in both human and wolf form.
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>>564494714
celeste and her playerbase has a 15" cock. flared.
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Called it.
Also in hindsight the skins were obviously fake too.
At least the latter spawned cute vindicta art.
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>>564494467
why would he have a human body but goat dick
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>>564495125
Billy is female to male trans and used magic to get a penis transplant but he was too broke to buy a human dong
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>>564495054
the "leaked" character that looked identical to a fan oc was fake... no fucking way
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>>564495125
he has some kind of animal penis in the chart, so might as well have a proper goat one
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>>564495125
Why would he have a human body but a goat head
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>>564495054
Shame, I honestly kinda dig the design. Oh well.
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>>564494802
well yes agreed, the point is that both forms should match, image I was replying to just had her with cocks in this case
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>>564495054
>they robbed Shiv being a scary serial killing vampire for drifter
>they robbed shiv's transformation ult for silver
>people genuinely believed they would rob him a third time by adding a blood themed monster that joined the baxter society
Genuinely why is Shiv even in the game at this point
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>>564494467
Ask me
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>>564495426
Because fuck you, that's why
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>>564495532
He's cool.
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why are you guys so obsessed with penis
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>>564496040
Everyone loves penis.
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>>564495532
Shiv is Sun Wukong. He is on a Journey to the West to receive a blessing from the Buddh- I mean the Patron, and he looks like a monkey. Expect him to receive an official Chinese Monk skin
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>>564495532
>>they robbed Shiv being a scary serial killing vampire for drifter
Drifter also stole Shiv's trophy mechanic (which he still has killstreak voice lines for. STOP SHIV FROM COLLECTING MORE TROPHIES!)
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>>564496040
only animal penis
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>>564496690
this desu
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Ivy and Celeste's futa penises
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Abrams Big Blue Cock
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glaceon's red dog dick
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>>564496690
I main Shiv btw idk if that matters haha
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At least Victor is playable in Phantom lobbies now...
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>>564497149
If they actually wanted to make Vic good without making him OP:
>give his 2 back the purge
>make the slow on his 4 affect dashes
>make the bonus spirit damage while his 4 is down scale
There.
Victor would be playable in Eternus while not being any stronger on the low end.
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>>564498004
>make him stronger than before when he was OP
>would be playable in Eternus while not being any stronger on the low end.
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>Ritualist
>never hear Ivy ult voice line for entire game
>ask why not using ult
>"I don't know how to use it"
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>>564498141
Not a single one of those changes would render him OP now, anon.
The global balance and meta has shifted since then significantly, anon.
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>>564498485
I don't believe you.
I think you're telling fibbies to get your pet character back to being free win status.
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>>564498004
>give him back stacking dispel magic
no thank
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>>564498708
Explain how any of that would make him OP.
Go ahead.
I'll wait.
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>>564498938
He had dispel before and he was OP.
I rest my case and I accept your concession in advance.
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>get a silver player on team in street brawl 3 times in a row
>lose all 3 matches
Do people actually enjoy this garbage game mode?
Its all about who has the most meta characters for it on the team
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Shiv ult should have unlimited range until he hits a hero or hits a wall which stuns him and does damage
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They should make a second ghost character and just make their ult noclip
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>>564499325
When he had dispell before the meta was COMPLETELY different as everyone was relying on stacking proc debuffs like toxic bullets and siphon bullets for a huge portion of their damage.
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Gonna attempt to make a custom KOTH map from tf2, with auto-generating souls with match time spent in total (Trophy Collector won't generate more souls), and troopers trying to cap the point.
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Hero prejudiced against Ixian(er)s?
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>love Celeste
>80% of art is yuri
>love Silver
>70% of art is yuri
An abstract kind of hell.
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>>564500345
Same problem with Victor and Drifter...
It's all Yaoislop...
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>>564500345
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has anyone here tried gun rem recently?
it's not a good way to build, but sometimes you catch people off guard with the rape scented candle.
though i usually go hybrid instead of full remington
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>>564498938
nta but aura stopping dashes. Silver bola is already one of the best skills in the game.
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>>564500345
deadlock prime futaxfemale realestate
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sometimes I just don't know what the fuck people are building
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>>564500753
Aura currently affects dashes and yet he still has a 46% win rate in Eternus, anon.
It's almost like people who abuse movement glitches don't care about slow of any kind...
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>>564500872
uhhhh idk old player maybe?
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>>564500647
this is kinda confusing to me for the same reason mlp black porn is.
what would be appealing to a horse about a black guy's pornstar sized dick?
do they prefer smaller penises and that's how they got into the bbc fetish stuff?
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>>564501160
bbc is an astroturfed forced fetish that no one actually likes
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>>564501160
>little black dicks
cringe
>big horse cock
BASED
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>>564500872
Had a bebop early rush Glass Canon at 15k with zero green items. We won thanks to Ivy's vortex web combos being retarded strong but the drooling retard kept insisting the build was fine despite the fact it hinders his ability to stat check people with Bebop's bloated HP pool.
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>>564501160
it's just netorare/cheating with extra steps dude, always was, always had a cheating theme
don't know why people act like IR was invented last year
dude wanted a human to fuck ponies he likes but wanted him to look different than himself
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>play deadlock with my shitter friend
>niggers in low rank are griefing/trolling cause "im le heckin goofy"
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>>564501542
coming home and walking in on your wife celeste getting fucked by a horse...
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i love victor
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>>564501160
Jewish meme, nobody actually likes it
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>>564502108
they're doing it on your wedding bed, which on one hand is insulting, on the other hand it's an impressive feat involving monkey bars and rope pulleys
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>>564495054
okay but what's the point of posting fake leaks
how is this even a troll
>"haha i invested hours of my personal time into something FAKE to make you think it's REAL but actually it's FAKE ahahhaha"(????????)

>>564500345
lane with my Abrams and we can be 100% hetero
yes Paige, you too
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>>564501278
>>564502308
whatever helps you sleep at night whitey
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>>564502308
>Jewish
90% of "BBC" posters are Indians, likely Dalits.
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>>564502421
Probably true now.
Just that when Israel got bombed, it all mysteriously stopped for a few days.
Anyways sex with Ivy
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>>564502108
I join in and worship that horse cock together with celeste of course
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>>564502651
Nah, that shit continued unabated.
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>>564501931
>Their goofy build is gun Rem again
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Bomb paradox is fun and all but it's a lot of worthless damage; It doesn't do enough single target damage late game to be a concern so all this big damage is spread and kinda useless. This hero is giga gutted.
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>this hero that just lets me roll my face on the keyboard is bad
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They need to add forfeit. Having to try to defend against a team you know is going to win is a humiliation ritual. It's like you're just "super creeps" for them to kill.
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>>564503110
>t. I never played paradox but I'm retarded and think my opinion is worth something.
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>>564503170
yeah bro bomb paradox takes so much skill
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how do i play rem at higher elos (ascendant 3)? i mostly just buy torment pulse for damage and my damage is ass (10-20kish). the split push potential feels great with helpers and heroic but i still get deleted if i get caught out solo. going full support feels like i have very little agency in the direction of the game.
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>>564503260
It certainly takes more effort than whatever you play to be seething about it.
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oh did you win 3 games in a row? we're gonna fill your team with people with match histories like this btw
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>>564492359
you might be onto something lul, even just camping the rooftops and pulling your teammates up to them is really strong
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SAAR
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>>564503064
it's not worthless but if your team can't do 66% of their hp as damage you were going to lose anyways
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>>564503064
Does the mod change the character models to vtubers too or just their icon
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>>564503064
Isn’t the trick to place two bombs under your feet and immediately swap with the enemy carry?
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>>564503764
lol mine looks the same i dont even know what they're talking about
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>>564503957
You don't do that much damage fast enough, for example in this game; Paige throwing a single divine shield guarantees a save. And there is both haze and venator to be concerned about, you also want to use it for area denial to assist or save team mates and obviously midboss or objectives.
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The balance in this game is so fucking bad, and yet retards can't win games as some of the most busted characters like Shiv and Mirage. It's impressive, really.
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>>564503937
They are not vtubers but yes, models do change, some even change the voice.
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this was funnier in my head
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>>564504987
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>>564503064
building for bomb isn't bad, but it isn't great either
it takes too long to come online and there are too many unreliable factors to deal with
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is there any fucking reason to go gunfernus when flame dash that wasn't even hitting enemies just using as a movement most of the time did more damage than his gun + afterburn
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>>564504987
what if little helpers in foreground rem in background
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>>564504987
Should have been crucified on a sinner
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>>564505648
No.
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>>564504987
rem died for their sinners
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>>564504987
little do they know, he's still got a rejuvenator
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>>564504987
>>564505884
With Ven praying before the giant bag the Rem dropped upon death.
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>>564505648
>gunfernus
no, never. just build spirit in general and literally all of your abilities will deal insane damage
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Lash!
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Your teammates sir
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>>564508880
>use heavy melee
>if you hit you deal a lot of damage
>if you get parried you get stunned for 3 seconds
>use light melee
>if you hit you deal no damage
>if you get parried you get stunned for 3 seconds
There's literally no reason to use light melee
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Did they nerf Celeste in some way, she feels off
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>>564509334
They hard nerfed her last patch ye
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>>564509281
>pick a burst character
>weave in lights after abilities
>do an extra 200~ damage
>go over the breakpoint of your burst being a nuisance to killing
lights are OP
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>>564509334
Yeah they did. Celeste players got to abuse a broken top 2 hero for 2 months straight so now they'll have to adapt to not being on top of the food chain anymore.
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>>564509281
for the parrying player, heavies can be reacted to. lights must be predicted.
that is, if they're not a shitter blindly mashing the parry button whenever a brawler comes into melee range.
the counterplay there is to get close, keep shooting while they waste their parry and punish them with heavies while it's on cooldown.
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So is tank buster a good item, sure 8% current health is nice but it's every 14 seconds, maybe in a fight you get that off two times and even if you hit someone at 3k hp meaning 480 extra damage. If they're half hp that's maybe 150~ range. It seems nice on abilities that can hit a bunch of people or if you want more damage to proc burn.. idk. It's a nice harass tool maybe?
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>decide to play street brawl
>ban character that I know will be a massive pain the ass
>the very first game I got is with that exact character I banned, getting a fucking refresher first round
>get absolutely stomped while Russian niggers on my team curse each other and me
Never touching that mode again
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Did I miss something? Why are there so many Holliday trannies today? Been shitting on them all day.
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>>564510387
>the monkeys paw curls
>parries are now effected by duration, since it's the other side of the coin of debuff resist
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>>564510816
>built in debuff resistance in passive
hmm... I'll take it...
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>>564510816
>duration maxxing dynamo gets a stealth buff
any mechanics change results in an incidental buff to dynamo
this is a fundamental truth
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>>564510169
It's for long range poking/harassing and helping proc burn yeah.
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>>564510816
The parry stun should be 2 seconds baseline. You shouldn't be able to fit 2 heavies into a parry stun.
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>teammate making retarded plays like diving 5 of the enemy by himself as doorman
>gets killed
>"dude what are we dooooing"
happens every time. love it
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>>564510239
anyone who gets mad over the for fun mode needs to get a major reality check, the games aren't even that long.
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Sorry guys I won't be able to play deadlock with you anymore since mom found out about the game and thinks it's devil worshipping
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>>564511657
y-yes mommy....
more?
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Sorry guys, I can't play deadlock with you anymore since my dad found out about the game and thinks it has transgender agenda
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>>564510387
Why is Ivy like this!?
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>Winning game confidently
>Have all walkers up, enemy only has one
>Retard calls for everyone to force the last walker
>Enemy has lash ult + Walker gives resists so its a terrible call
>Beg them to look for picks so we can maybe do mid instead
>They refuse and force a fight besieging walker
>Lash ults and everyone dies
>They take midboss and GG
I fucking hate phantom man, people talk about oracle as elo hell but Phantom is the real purgatory
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>leave the wave for my m1 carry to take since he's right there
>he doesn't take it
>he lets it push all the way into base
>he still doesn't take it
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>>564512216
>Using Georgian letters as decorations
Kek.
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dashfernus is one of the worst metas we've ever had
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>>564512216
>calico finding a postcard with this written in crayon addressed to her and wiping a happy tear out of her eye while cracking a slight smile
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>>564510885
imagine the pecjobs haha
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>>564512606
What annoys me is that you have the biggest retards ever possible piloting it who have ego issues (mistaking themselves as good when they're sad gay metaslaves)
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Mercurial/QSR is kinda dogshit on Vyper unless you have Boundless like why wouldn't I buy crippling headshot for the same price instead?
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>>564512189
so you knew their win con was lash ult but didn't buy cursed relic to counter it? your fault
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>>564513208
because crippling sucks and doesnt reload your ammo so you can keep sliding and blasting?
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>>564504987
lmao the little crosses this is so good
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>seven farm for entire game
>he comes out with refresher and unstoppable
>lose
these people should be crucified in the middle of four ways road
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>>564513656
>crippling sucks
>lower bullet resist so your m1 hits harder
>lower spirit resist so your venom hits harder
>healing reduction
what are you smoking bro also,
>needing to reload on vyper
is this ragebait
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>>564514078
like rem?
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>>564514078
Ball seven is like factually the strongest version of him, requires little braincells and these fuckers still opt for ult lol
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>>564514207
mercurial also gives you fire rate crippling sucks dude
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>>564514337
crippling is fine
the thing is that merc mag is a busted item and not getting it on a high firerate hero like vyper is insane
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Still laughing at the person last night who thought gun Mcginnis is viable.
> Haze hard counters and deletes you with her ult, which outspeeds you even with enduring + fleetfoot active
> Wraith hard counters and deletes you because of her infinite ammo, hybrid damage and superior mobility
> In fact about the only characters you're good against are z-tiers
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>>564469916
graves has grave's disease
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>>564470085
i'm glad nothing has changed
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>>564514207
>Until your next reload, your bullets deal bonus spirit damage
if you need to reload, mercurial is good because it reloads your gun.
if you never need to reload, mercurial is still good because this bonus spirit damage lasts forever.

it's actually capped at 12 seconds, but that's pretty damn long and the cooldown to proc again is only 14 seconds.
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>>564470085
Scary how accurate some of these are, though calling old geist art sexo is kind of a stretch.
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Update?
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>>564515436
don't worry about it, kitten
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>>564511657
my pouty lipped waifu
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>>564514207
wouldn't you rather just buy APR?
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>>564514979
They're still in your head rent free?
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>>564514979
she works for fairfax. running anything but a gun build is immersion breaking. high rank shitters will never understand this
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>>564517751
>all her tech works by using souls
>not nuilding spirit
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>>564490402
*waits until after 5 minutes*

YOU ARE MY KEK
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>>564514979
>pisslow rank talking
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>>564514979
>> Haze hard counters and deletes you with her ult, which outspeeds you even with enduring + fleetfoot active
your wall retard?
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>>564490402
Imagine not doing that. What kind of person ignores their family for a video game?
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>>564519246
I just pause and dc and go help. I'll come back and if people bothered to wait 2 minutes then great if not fuck it.
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>564500345
Tumblr folk only upvote gay stuff because its gay and reject anything else, that's why you only see this degeneracy and nothing decent. Reddit and Discord are infected.
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What’s with all the futa art in this fandom
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>>564517964
the orange shop is literally called fairfax artillery bought and sold.
if you buy green or purple items as mcginnis you're out of character and me and the other RP gamers on your team are going to throw the match because of you.
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>>564470679
Calm down Mina!
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>>564519345
FLIP FLOPPIN' TRANNY DEADCOCK
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I can truly visualize the tranny cock flopping
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>>564519664
Silver main...
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>>564519664
Mina's... deadcock...
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>>564519953
>>564520095
I forgot to specify that its a dead cock
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>>564519365
>>564517751
you don't actually understand her character
she drives the occult industrial complex. fairfax industries builds weapons out of souls. even her in-game bio blurb is about her unlocking the potential of discovering a way to refine souls into weapons
spirit is CANON on her.
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Too much silence slop in this game. It's like stuns in early overwatch
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>>564520449
They should remover Silencer as a gun item because I don't like it
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it's kinda unfair that abram gets to have an s at the end of his name even though he's just one guy, but mo and krill don't despite being multiple people. same goes for mcginni or infernu. it's kinda bullshit if you ask me
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>>564520815
>he's just one guy
The book is sentient, that's why Abram is plural
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>>564520598
this but unironically, silence should be relegated to just silence wave so everyone equally has to waste a slot if they wanna use it instead of having it built into kits/silencio
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>>564520815
what do you think about seven
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>>564521098
oh that makes sense. with viscou it's kinda hard to tell but i'll give them the benefits of the doubts
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>>564521383
>not banning dynahomo
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My Doner is here.
I bet you deadcock troons are jelly rn.
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>Dynamo/Seven/Haze gets unstoppable
What's the counterplay to this?
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>>564495532
Shiv is braindead OP though.
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These deathslam casters have no idea what they're talking about it's like AI casting just hallucinating stuff
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>>564522161
I'm a burger and sometimes i think about a doner i had in yurop, it was so good
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>>564522364
He should play deadslop, he'd fit right in since half the playerbase plays stoned anyway.
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>>564522294
Ritualist take
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> Get match
> I have Infernus as v. high priority, Mina as high priority, Shiv as high priority, and then Dynamo as fourth choice
> Game gives someone else Infernus and Mina, Shiv is on the other team, forces fourth choice on me
> Infernus bitches that he wants to lane with his duo (Venator) but I'm in the way because they forgot to press the "force lane together" option
> Demands I switch into a lane against Shiv and Haze with Silver
> Say no
> He throws a fucking fit on the mic and calls me a nigger even though he's very clearly brown
> Leaves Shiv/Haze lane to run to mine
> Continuing to scream into mic
> Load up 2.5 hour Doug Walker megamix and play it through mic
> Infernus leaves 5 minutes in
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I think I'm stuck in archon
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>>564522364
lmao wtf
he looks like he aged 10 years and changed ethnicity to overworked mexican
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>accidentally press q
>get stunned for 3 seconds
Anyone that defends parries should be killed irl
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>>564488395
>>564488548
These are going in my folder, but not the one I meant it was human Silver
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can't find a good mcginnis build. Doesnt help that half of the top builds are from that "rey soft puppygirl" troon freak and I am not playing that shit
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>>564523527
turret gun hybrid
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one of the best builds I've used was by someone who went by "vyper tailjobs" sooo
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>>564523527
Buy Suppressor, Mystic Slow, Boundless, EE, and Greater Expansion. Turrets will fuck gun carries over and the second a teamfight happens you press 4 and win.
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>>564523527
just play gun Miku
It destroys everything and everyone
no counter-play
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Are builds pro builds a trap? Sometimes it feels like they cater more towards their personal playstyle rather than optimal value
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>>564520598
instead they should just rape build up % on graves because she has literally 100% accuracy and should fuck off and die
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>>564522750
>land two knives and use decay
>deal 70-100% of someone's hp bar
>if you get even remotely threatened you can just run away with your absurd tankiness and spammable dash
>ult is basically not even used as an execute anymore, just another broken movement tool
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>>564523876
Well every build will have the play style of whoever made it (unless you have "entire-shop-builds" like Lightbringer).
Once you get a better feel for a character you can just modify existing or create a new build.
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>>564523527
Every top build wastes points and doesn't rush max ult it's ridiculous
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im officially joining the nerf vyper club i dont give a fuck about counters when by the time you can afford them shes 7-0 or some shti and snowballing
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>>564523527
I mean if you are wanting to break down mcginnis, we do 2 max first for percentage heal, then we get ult t2, turret t2, then ult t2 and then who cares about the rest of the points.

For items, we want mystic slow, rapid recharge for the turrets since they are the spirit effect applicators. And then you want ammo increases/fire rate and bullet effects for your gun.
Also get greater expansion for the turrets/heal

Also don't forget to buy the armor item to cover the majority of the damage too.
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>>564524025
>(unless you have "entire-shop-builds" like Lightbringer)
You should be skinned alive for this shit I swear to god
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>>564523894
You're pretending that 90% of players aren't already using an aimbot anyway...
All graves does is level the playing field a bit.
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>>564524014
honestly a solid nerf for shiv would be to remove his ability to ult nothing, it's even better than apollo's because there's no wind up or cooldown afterwards.
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>>564524025
I think Lightbringer builds have an actual left to right build at the bottom
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Ahh, a "I've come here to whine about what I think is OP" general. Fascinating read.
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>>564524150
also i meant wall t2 on the last one, you want to get the cooldown reductions first but not before percentage healing
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>>564524014
>catch shiv
>use slowing hex
>but he just survives two people mashing him for over 2k dps for three seconds because lol deferral and then teleports away with insane momentum
Am I supposed to build like three vortex webs for this nigger now or something what the fuck
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>>564522208
>dynamo
your own unstoppable

>seven
walk 1 second in any direction so you are behind a wall

>haze
just kill metal skin then kill her
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>>564523584
>>564523704
>>564523728
>>564524063
>>564524150
>5 wildly different answers
I'm starting to think nobody knows how to build this character....
Or something like that, I don't know
>>564523616
that would make me respect the build more actually, its called having good taste
IMO the best vyper build is TBirds I think
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>>564524314
I guess I'm asking more as the designated knockdown bot, Seven popping his ult is usually enough to make everyone in the teamfight panic and we all get picked off one by one and by the time unstoppable is over everyone is not in a great spot to continue the brool.
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>>564524732
takes like these are just tales from archon.
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>>564524479
>I'm starting to think nobody knows how to build this character....
There is supposed to be no consistent perfect answer to building unless the character is poorly designed, its how icefrog designs.
And if you cannot ever see yourself not playing without build guides you are never going to be a real player.
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Spectate any high level Miku and they rush ult and build around it
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>>564524479
brother you just rush ult max with mystic slow and kill people on cooldown
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AN UPDATE JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
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Why is it ok for warden to just be the perfect character?
>flask is bullshit
>shield makes him harder to kill AND gives him speed
>his 3 is just stupid oppressive
>his ult pretty much ensures he kills you while going 500 mph

how is this fair???
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WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO
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>>564525491
Every carry is bullshit OP and anyone playing them is boosted.
Just accept that the game is in alpha and move on.
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>>564525491
>warden
he and geist are supposed to be initiators and similar in that they are weird deviations from the normal set.
All of them will rape anything 1vs1
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>>564525054
seven is so kino
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>>564525491
>no hard CC
>worst barrier ability in the game
>no gun steroid passive like every other carry
>ultimate can simply be avoided or cancelled and is extremely telegraphed
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>>564520598
i think counter items in general need a full pass/rework. for how much stress it puts on the design of the game, it just feels like shit. too many characters who live and die by counter items. point and click disarm. mandatory slowing hex buys, mandatory dispel buys, mandatory anvil buys, mandatory unstoppable buys. deleting some heroes with metal skin, deleting others with phantom strike. any DoT-based hero getting their main source of damage turned off. hitting a vyper with capacitor and then sending her to hell (if she didn't get her mandatory dispel). juggernaut's effect being applied on hit instead of requiring proximity, and it being a flat reduction instead of % based (hurting certain heroes far more than others). similarly, rusted barrel. spellbreaker raping nukes. and on that note, the entire spirit damage/spirit resistance situation. and while i think it's the best designed counter-item, counterspell in general adding to the design-aggravation.
there's just something that fundamentally disgusts me about heroes who go from oppressive wtf do you do about that to useless trash lol owned because you bought the correct item
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Paradox must have a huge ass with how much her coat is pushed up
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>>564524153
Lightbringer builds are a good middle ground between encouraging you to think and spoonfeeding
Look at the second row green section in pic related. You obviously aren't supposed to buy every item here. You get your green spike with any combination of the 8 items shown and then you have options based on game state from what's left. Maybe you don't need healbane this game somehow so you buy one of the other 1600s, maybe you need early spirit res so you go enchanters, maybe remover isn't needed so you skip it this game.
And then things like the "util" section are obviously just put there so you don't have to fish those items out of the shop tabs. Whenever I make my own build I always shove shit like knockdown or slowing hex into a section somewhere for the same reason

I don't understand hating them when the other common build criticism is "People only build L-R! They don't buy items that aren't in their L-R build!" it's basically the best of both worlds because you aren't railroaded into strictly building L-R but you're given strong options for the hero, with an extra section at the bottom to spoonfeed you if you REALLY want to build L-R
>>564525054
Trvke
>>
IN HERE
I
AM
KING
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>it's another episode of rem goes pillow and does fucking nothing
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they should merge returnfire into metal skin and make it a component
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>>564526903
>it's another episode of rem goes and does fucking nothing
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>>564527226
mmmmm.. NYOh!
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Told you guys the hype for this game wouldn't last
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>>564527289
support rem is fine, they're at least playing the character in a way that makes sense, pillow rem actively nerfs your team by taking all your friendly sinners and then doing no damage AND no support
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>>564525491
>>564525650
i think he's fairly honest, aside from all of the CC he really shouldn't have

>>564526542
take one look at her absurd skull-crushing thighs
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>>564526736
My issue with Lightbringer builds is that in order for them to be useful for any character you already need to be familiar with the itemisation of that character, at which point his builds are useless since youll either have your own build or just freestyle the store. Best case its just a shortcut
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>>564527226
>Metal skin: stop shooting because the bullets do nothing
>Return fire: requires you to keep getting shot or this item does nothing
Retard-kun...
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6400 item that is just duration + expansion please
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imagine using someone else's build lmao
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Overwatch figured out matchmaking a million years ago and Deadlock cannot with all the data it has access to from CS, TF2, or Dota?
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7 minute queue i'm sure this game is going to be awesome
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>>564527697
>Buildcucks
lol
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>>564523154
That's what smoking weed and eating slop does to a person.
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Why is soloq so much easier and less stressful than playing with a stack? do my friends just suck?
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I dismissed the seekers' claims about the gun meta and now it comes for me.
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Does mystic vulnerability put spirit resist to -8% if they have no defenses? I also think spirit sap is criminally underrated
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>>564527923
you see and talk to your friends constantly so there is higher expectations to perform compared to just playing with random people
although if you reach the end of ranking those people will just flame and troll you if you consistently annoy them since you will be seeing the same players consistently.
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kek, haze niggas
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>make build
>check out other builds
>they're the same with a better layout
>copy it, name it the same as my own build and delete my old one
Easy as pie
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>>564527923
Enemy team could be people smurfing to play with their friends
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>>564525491
he would be fine if it wasn't for his 3, it's supposed to just be a single target version of seven's 2 in that it denies you space but it's even better in that regard
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>laner goes afk and takes damage before troops arrive because he was looking at the shop
>"sorry first time mcginnis"
>we're against the smurfiest schmuvement nerd silver emissary has ever saw and a vindicta
if only I farmed a little harder I could've had my warden silence before they were pushing our walker shit in at 10 minutes mb guys
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>>564528485
Not hairy enough
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>>564527923
Your friends do suck. Stacking is stressful because if I dont carry no one else will pick up the slack. If I get shit on in lane the game is practically over.
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>>564528196
yeah, they take 8% more spirit damage
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>>564528505
getting lost in Paige's cheeks
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>>564529047
*pffthfhfhppfhfhththhthtf*
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I'm fat bald retard who lives in the deepest darkest part of the amazon rain forest. What hero should I main?
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>>564529130
whatever you currently play
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>>564527749
overwatch doesn't have nearly as many variables in play
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Does resetting to obscurus reset your rank? My alt got to Archon 6 but my main's stuck on Seeker 6. I go like 20-2 each game win or loss, but mostly lose in Seeker because my teammates are horrid. You can't climb up in rank even if you're good.
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I played my fill up until couple weeks after Apollo came out. Thinking about returning now. What's the quick rundown on what has changed since then?
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They actually have to do something about shiv on street brawl, he's on literally every match and its always the same bullshit where if he gets witchmail, EE and any spirit lifesteal at all he just gets to solo the entire enemy team under the walker on the final round. Its not even something that happens sometimes, its literally 80% of the games with shiv in them, which in of itself are like 80% of all SB games
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>>564529293
Archon and seeker are functionally identical.
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I ONLY play Graves
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I have to be on to something here, Shiv sometimes rushes decay since it gives him easy rage but Vindicta's crow familiar leveled first plus decay pretty much puts them into assassinate range and that's without shooting them or dropping alchemical fire
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>>564529936
Khazarian milkers have me acting unwise.
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is there a reason to use shjv's m2? it deals less damage and slows you so i dont understand the point
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>Watching e6 streamer
>Lanemate vyper first buys Egg
Its nice to know that even in the highest levels of play, 50/50 agents exist.
Just like my games.
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>>564530146
It's twice the damage and can be used for stupid movement if you're autistic enough
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>>564529496
Incorrect. 1 archon can and will stomp the shit out of 6 seekers.
t. Smurf.
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im really not having fun with this patch and the matchmaking is even worse
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>lane partner refuses to even try to fight the enemy
>they get ahead and snowball
>game is decided 3 minutes in
cool
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>>564529293
>i'm literally STUCK in elo HELL
dude if i got put in a seeker lobby i would farm them and solo end in 20 minutes on literally any carry. it would be indistinguishable from a bot match. you might have to say some shit like "hey guys, let's do mid boss". and maybe a "we should do urn, <hero> please grab it" but fuckin', it's seeker dude. i don't even know if the game lets people get placed there, i tried to soft-throw on my alt (for the purpose of playing with newfriends) and still ended up placed oracle 1
if you're getting 20 kills every game and still can't run the lobby you're fucking something up massively
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>>564529965
If you have found a way to resolve the stacking consistency issue for her thats good, because its the only thing stopping her from being played constantly.
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>>564530873
What do you mean?
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>>564530653
no game is decided by 3 minutes
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>>564529965
your dispell/counterspell?
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I give up playing paradox for now. It's not fun to play such a gimped character where you have to pic-related only to do half the damage a nigfernus does when you accidentally pinky toe touch his diarrhea.
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>>564530858
>seekers can't win against top level bots
>I go 50/0 against those same bots as a ritualist
There's a HUGE amount of skill stratification going on between every rank, not just Oracle+.
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>streetbrawl
>enemy celeste says celeste is trans coded
>tell him his dna is male coded
>turns out there are some chasers or queers on my team and I've enraged them
>they give up and grief my match
>I alt tab and just wait for next
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I can only play silver /dlg/... I tried to learn some other heros like vindicta and haze but my winrates are just not as good as on silver... how do you play anyone else. Im slightly positive with Vin but doesnt compare to silver
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>>564531003
Was in the hideout but I'd definitely pick it up after getting all the 4.8k milestones
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>>564524191
It's not even that good as an execute, I've had so many shivs whiff it completely on me and be forced to just knife me to death
They really should just add an obvious effect to executeable people and make it like yamatoids grapple where you phase through obstacles to them
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Rem is always in the fanarts just to make sure people know the characters aren't on a date
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Graves was held back at Blackmore Academy for 16 years so she's actually at least 34 years old
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rem always has the fattest farts
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>>564531290
True.
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>win lane
>some french faggot Victor comes in to take over our lane
>I try to make plays in mid game but every time Victor ends up just farming
>late game comes
>he falls behind
>he still yaps on voice
I hate this game. Why are all fags in early ranks so passive? Literally just farming like niggers.
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>>564530932
vindicta herself is strong but you have to actually scale off the assassinate kills to reach the ability to rape the entire enemy team which means she has a consistency issue since getting the amount of stacks required isn't always so easy.
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>>564531568
Boosted animals just being carried by stat check heroes.
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>>564530858
I've got a 55% win rate on my Seeker account and an 70% win rate on my Archon account. Sometimes teammates are uncarriable. I know this from 5000+ hours of high rank dota too, works the same in this game when your teammates feed.
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>>564531568
only brool when you get an objective from it. Otherwise its kinda unnecessary methinks
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whats the 40mb patch all about?
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>>564532112
More Victor nerfs
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>>564531001
yes bro there was no way to tell if the team with no carries would win against the team with 3. especially after one of these carries gets a lead early on. impossible to predict!
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>want to try a new character
>immediately dropped into hell against a competent and coordinated team and a 20/0 rape artist
every time
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>>564532357
Can't wait until we get a seperated ranked/casual que so I can fuck around on heroes I would never usually touch like Shiv or Lash.
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>>564532112
new lightning scroll icon thing
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ded game
ded general
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>>564531568
>victor player afk farming
kinda his job frank-ly
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>>564532357
no really wtf is up with this? I finally get to play venator or graves and its just a game of seals vs seal clubbers
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>>564531568
Victor is meant to afk farm he has a terrible early/mid game.
Unless he was doing meme gun victor shit then yeah he should have been fighting
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>enemy whiffs parry
>melee them
>they roll away
>miss
Why do parries even exist? Melee attacks would be useless even without parries
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>>564533573
parry recovery should be doubled
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>>564532334
low rank brain
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silver is supposed to afk farm till 45 minute right or she's a skirmish gun carry?
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>>564533573
you're supposed to keep a headcount of his stamina and predict his movement to confirm the heavy
it's all intended
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12 minutes in infernus shoots me for 150+ gun damage and does OVER 1k IN PASSIVE AFTERBURN DAMAGE
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>>564533794
she's supposed to afk farm til next patch (where she'll get nerfed)
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>>564533915
sorry chud, should've bought spirit res, debuff res, dispel, and plated armor
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>>564533751
oracle is not high rank btw just so you know
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>>564531818
>sometimes
not 45% of the time when you're allegedly several divisions above these players
deadlock is an actual 1v11 game if you don't piss away your lead, especially the lower you go
post accounts or some match IDs and i might believe you
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>>564534064
>top 10%
>not high rank
Okay.
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I fucking did it /dlg/ I paid $2000 for 10 sessions of 1 hour coaching with a deadlock pro.
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>>564534431
good job!
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so this is the powoer of Silverfag players...
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>>564534735
>enemy team had 5 people with double digit deaths
did you just break a 10 game lose streak or something
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>>564534431
record it and upload it for everyone to see what a scam it is.
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>>564534431
PISSLOW HERE I COME BABY
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>>564531001
it's a MOBA
i know this one has a bunch of mario kart mechanics that enable comebacks
and technically the highest 'correlated' winrates are in the ball park of like 70-90%
but it can be exceptionally favored for a team to win within 3 minutes, yes. especially if a carry gets fed. and you have an obvious dead-weight PULL. BACK. player on your team

>>564534402
lmaooo no way
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>>564534657
I hope they keep Vyper's head intact.
The rest can go.
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>billy on my team
>runs into enemies, gets parried, dies instantly
>billy on enemy team
>unkillable dunking machine
How come it's always like this?
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>>564534835
>all lanes win
>lash/mina/kelvin/abrams/wraith on the winning team
it's either they afk in base or get raped repe... wait what the fuck
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>>564534657
why the fuck is Silver there? You fags are delusional
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>>564534835
Kinda but I suck dick at the game.
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Kill every person that uses parries irl
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>>564534326
I do carry/stomp a lot of games and I go like 30+ kills in them. There are many smurfs in this rank, sometimes you get multiple smurfs on the enemy team and multiple feeders on your own team.
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>>564531196
>go for an execute on an enemy that's like 5 health because I wanto be cheeky
>I'm point blank
>just kinda float through him and he dies to a trooper
<shiv voice> Alright
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Every patch is just the nigger flavor of the month... You guys think this game will survive this? I think pretending that invite only beta excuse isn't gonna fly. The people interested in this genre are already playing the game and normies will not stay for this due to complexity, what we currently have and maybe some 10-15% more is all we'll get.
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>>564534657
i like how viscous looks.
he looks like a cruelty squad shock trooper.
he's also as much of an affront to god as shock troopers are.
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>>564535447
She literally reuses Seven's animations.
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>>564535694
meds
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>>564527405
People have been saying this since 2024
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Is there anything more performative in moba culture than calling missing? Seriously, i've been playing mobas for over a decade and calling missing does nothing, it never did in any game. Nboody actually plays different after hearing that another lane is missing. People go missing all the time in this game to get boxes or whatever, the warnings are just meaningless. You can watch any eternus level streamer play and nobody ever gives a shit about "x person is missing" calls. Its all just a cope tool so you can be mad after you're ganked, then you can check if the other lane said missing or not and shift the blame to them
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>>564534657
>gt and warden not in bottom
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>>564535026
i'm not a furry but i've played so many Krystal flash games and lost at least a 2L
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>>564536258
I'm a passive bitch but if my lanemate goes in I realize the worst play is to not try to salvage it, gank or no gank.
You should always call GT birds or if Calico's on her way though.
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>>564536464
>I'm not a furry
okay man
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>>564535078
Oracle is top 10%
Phantom is top 5%
Ascendant is top 2%
Eternus is top 0.5%.
You may not like it, but it's true based on the numbers.
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>>564536645
oracle 1 is top 20
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>>564536464
heard that one before way too many times
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>>564535918
if you think you are an archon/oracle level player, then you are a giga-smurf in seeker.
you are guaranteed to have a giga-smurf on your team. where every other slot is a dice roll. and there are more dice rolls on the enemy team than yours
again, match IDs or profiles, because this literally just all old-hat ELO hell claims. even down to the "i played in [high* rank] and did just fine!!!" claim
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>>564536040
Next thing you'll tell me that Ivy/Vyper use the same animations or Kelvin/Viscious.
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https://gamebanana.com/mods/671313
Anyone use this VGSlock thing? I'd like to use more voice commands and this seems like it will do the job over the limited wheel
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>>564536645
>>564536713
I'm Oracle 6 and there's absolutely no way I'm top *anything* percent.
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>>564536576
>or if Calico's on her way though.
Holy shit this
Please middle click the stupid cat the moment you spot it. Or at least type "cat" if you missed it. Just don't fucking ignore it.
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>>564537201
However bad you think you are, most players are even worse than that.
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>press the more death info tab
>now the game is bugged until I restart
>every time I die my inputs are disabled unless I spam esc and b
?????
What a stupid fucking bug
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>>564537331
>Look at last death
>3000 damage from trooper #6432
>Condemned by the patron: 3900 damage
huh
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>>564537201
It's true
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>>564537485
>die on geist/victor
>hmm wonder what I should build to counter these guys
>check damage taken
>80% is self inflicted
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>>564531196
>They really should just add an obvious effect to executeable people and make it like yamatoids grapple where you phase through obstacles to them
you mean how it worked until the recent patches? the thing that was so meta defining shiv could have literally every part of his kit nerfed and he was still picked all the time just because he can sit in the back with maxed out ult and be a massive force multiplier to teamfights because he would just cut the entire enemy teams healthbar by 25% due to chain executes you can't do anything about besides a perfectly timed counterspell?
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Silver would drive a Pontiac
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>>564489974
Trophy rarely pays for itself enough to be worth the monetary investment. It's good on kelvin because more aoe on spells but for most heroes, even the brawl heavy, it's just not great. It sacrifices your 3.2k power spike really early into the game which can be a difference between multiple kills or dying. Just generally a bad idea in such a snowball centric game to buy an item that does nothing immediately.
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>>564537686
Silver would drive my dick if you catch my drift bud
haha
good talking with ya
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I fucking hate how you pieces of shit gave me yellow fever, I've fucking jerked off to Mina 3 TIMES TODAY FUCK ALL OF YOU
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>>564536645
according to statlocker,
orcale is top 17%
phantom is top 8%
ascendant is top 4.5%
and eternus is top 1%

according to tracklock,
orcale is top ~30%
phantom is top ~20%
ascendant is top ~10%
and eternus is top ~2%
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>>564537296
>>564537562
There's absolutely no way...
I'm a drooling retard with anxiety that causes my aim to get jittery...
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>>564537763
Silver moving my wiener like a stick shift
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>>564536258
Yes it matters. Yes people should watch the map and figure out they're missing on their own. It can still help.
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>>564537201
>>564537296
A friend of mine downloaded the game and he picked vyper, never touched crouch and would just tap fire the gun to control the spread and recoil.
He won that match because the Warden that got fed to 50k kept dying to a 20k billy that would just heavy melee him to death.
The dudes at the low ranks are true fucking shitters.
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>>564489974
>Also, even though brooling is stupid trophy collector makes it somewhat more valuable
it does the exact opposite because you get NOTHING for buying trophy collector now when you're actually brooling, instead you get benefits in 20 minutes. if you just buy a 3.2k item that does something now you can just get kills/assists and the money from that and the farm you can take as a consequence will make you way more money then sitting around getting ticks of money. when maxxed out it doesn't even preform better then a dedicated range or health 3.2 item, it just exists to trick people into wasting their time along with egg but at least with egg you can just hold it for laning phase and get some value out of selling it, selling trophy meanwhile gives you even less value because now you lost a bunch of potential power for something you don't even have - at least cultist lets you get the buff one last time and then sell it off
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>>564537969
Sliver throwing my wiener into reverse at 80mph
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>>564536258
missing pings are pointless if it's not an actual call being made. false alarms (especially in deadlock) happen way more than actual roams that the call becomes just noise. you should still do it just to avoid the tilt/blame-game but yeah, it doesn't actually cause anyone to play more passive. it's almost entirely phatic.
by actual call i mean "careful lane, X is roaming over there"
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uh why don't you guys just talk in mic and say X hero is missing?
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>>564537969
*crunchy celery noises*
*Warden scream*
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>>564538723
That's what i mean, people go "missing" every five seconds in this game, to grab boxes, to do camps, to actually gank, whatever. If you actually call missing every time someone dissapears for more than 10 seconds you're going to be spamming that shit so much that it becomes meaningless
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>>564538826
The only call outs I do is grey talon ult.
>Drone strike coming from yellow hide yer kids, hide yer wife!
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>>564538238
i hate trophy but selling it for a better item isn't an auto-losing proposition. the whole point of buying economy items is for them to pay themselves off and then some, including selling the item. trading some early impact for long-term efficiency. egg and cultist are the same. trophy just sucks the most because it has the worst 'profile' of an economy item. expensive to buy, has to be scaled, you have to fight to scale it (while effectively down 3k souls), is mediocre in all facets besides the soul generation, and is a green item
cultist enables efficiency, egg enables efficiency, trophy hinders efficiency.
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>>564537862
It's time to make it 4, GOONER ~
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>>564538826
gotten depressed over the last couple of months and just cant socialize, so here are my pings and RP as shiv "Les go blu!" "Oawn mah way!" "No!"
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i love rem
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>What if a moba had parryslop mechanics and you could miss your auto attacks
WOW
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>>564538826
I have all voice comms muted
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>>564538826
Muted, jamming out, and I just don't feel like it
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What if we had a strongwoman character?
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>>564540195
bro your bulldyke mikuginnis?
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>>564524309
No, you have to accept that the game's balance is horrendous and only play the top tier characters or else you just lose.
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>>564539698
holy shit that sounds awesome i'm in
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>>564524309
>>564540548
I'm surprised he left instead of just spamming zero cooldown dashes for infinite damage.
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>>564540195
>Female Mo and Krill
You like?
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>>564524309
>>564540774
Shiv needs to go back to 2 stamina. 3 is excessive with how easy his shotgun movement is, people like to pretend it is difficult but it's just 'alt fire it behind you'.
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PULL.
BACK.
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McGinnis coming home from a long days work at Fairfax and taking out her frustration on me
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It's UP
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>>564541165
>'alt fire it behind you'
it's so easy you don't even know how to actually do it, impressive!
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>>564533813
>need to bait the parry
>keep track of stamina
>predict the movement
vs
>stay away
>press F (optional)
melee is so shit
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>>564541308
I'm pretty sure most shiv niggers just use macros for this shit though...
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>>564500647
This is so weird because mina is most wmaf coded character this side of second millenium
I mean there are artists that exclusively draw shitdick, cuck stuff and even snuff... and even they had to draw mina with white cock. That's how strongly coded she is
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Parries are not only overpowered, but also superfluous as even without them melee would be useless.
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>>564541186
PULL.
OUT.
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>1950's setting
>no racist character
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>>564541308
That's quite literally all you have to do with it. Slide and alt fire it to get momentum.
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>>564541757
Viscous hates landlubbers, hes just good at hiding it
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>>564541567
>skipping reload on billy is superfluous
>silver's ult is superfluous
>getting undeniable creep kills during lane is superfluous
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>>564541757
Bro your Apollo?
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>>564541269
Canon
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>>564541802
retard lol
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>>564542148
Which one of those are parries also bashdown also silver's ult attacks can't be parried also you're retarded
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>>564541757
friends of humanity hero soon
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>>564541802
It's quite literally the worst thing you could do with the alt fire because it will cancel your velocity beyond a certain limit, you want to shoot perpendicular to the direction you're moving retardbro
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Why is Holliday like this?
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>>564542148
>>getting undeniable creep kills during lane is superfluous
lmao just shoot the orb
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>>564540195
>low IQ
MCG is right there
>high IQ
geist is right there
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>>564542651
Can you really blame her?
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>>564542658
which of those options is better is always situational and limiting yourself to only one solution won't do you any good.
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gun bebop
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>>564541165
>>564541308
>>564541802
>>564542631
https://youtu.be/Uh8Py4Et9hE?si=OuXzh9-HECICuNi_&t=33

oh no no no no...
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I wanna stream but am also scared to do it... bros, how do I deal with it?
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is lash the most gay coded character in a game ever
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>>564542631
tbf after they (somewhat) unerfed the knockback in the recent shiv patches you can get away with shooting behind you and doing ok, especially if you go for the meme fleetfoot + burst fire + swift striker combo to speedfire M2's so he might just genuinely not know

nvm as I'm writing this he linked a video that literally tells you to shoot perpendicular so he's just a retard lmao
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>>564543235
i'm neither of the anons i was replying to, i was just linking the video to back up the guy saying to do it perpendicular
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>>564543228
>gay coded
>the only character that objectively wants to FUCK several women on the cast instead of just some "hey lets get some drinks wink" nonsense

actually he's just acting like that to hide how gay he is you say, because people who hate ants in their house actually want to fuck ants
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Honestly the game was more fun before the new heroes release. Yea, there was only about 22k players but at least an ascendant game felt like an ascendant game. Everyone knew how the game flow went, but now I'm getting teammates who somehow got put into an ascendant game that have no idea how to utilize a lead.
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>>564543228
>Billy has literally been balls deep inside the kinkiest female in the roster (Vyper)
>Yet he can't stop talking about how sexy Mirage and Lash are
It's Billy. Billy is the biggest faggot in the roster
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>>564543358
Tbh that just makes it easier... Was it supposed to own that anon?
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>>564543204
You just do it and don't think too much about it
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uhhhh why did valve specifically take the time to give graves white panties that show through her pantyhose instead of just making her groin area the same color as her pantyhose
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>>564543153
You're shooting to get momentum going behind you, that's exactly how it works. It's extremely easy and really doesn't need to be on a character that already has probably the most busted DoT effect in the game, spammable dashes that get CD reduction and spirit resist shred, an obnoxiously strong passive that makes him into even more of a stat check, and an ult that isn't even used for it's intended purpose anymore and is just used as another dash.
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>>564543598
hes just like me fr fr
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>>564543204
OH OH LOOK AT ME LOOOOOOK GIVE ME ATTENTION PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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>>564543967
Shiv downplayers will complain the ult sucks, even though they use it like a dash because they don't need it at all.
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>>564543937
They need to go back and remove the communist censorship aka black voids under Mina and Paige skirts
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>>564543575
The last six heroes added (besides Venator) have so much powercreep that the game is going to feel as bad as Dota 2 for quite a while now, where every patch buffs like 2-4 characters into 'free win' status, and everyone else just feels bad to play into them. Right now it's Shiv, Mirage, Ivy, and Apollo, it is only going to get worse with every patch.

>>564544187
There are a handful of characters that would only improve the game by being removed. Shiv, Kelvin, Graves, and Celeste all come to mind as characters that only make the game worse.
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>>564525491
>>his ult pretty much ensures he kills you while going 500 mph
what I hate is that his t3 ult literally gives him unstoppable while casting so you can't even outplay him anymore with knockdowns or curse.
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>>564543967
>a character that already has probably the most busted DoT effect in the game, spammable dashes that get CD reduction and spirit resist shred, an obnoxiously strong passive that makes him into even more of a stat check
you talking about infernus?
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>>564525491
he can't farm as fast as people who buy rico or 7 so he falls off late game
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>>564544348
Infernus isn't a stat check, but he is pretty busted.
>>564544324
Warden's ult is the worst part of his kit besides the shield. The shield is basically a non-ability until the T3 upgrade and you never want to max it out over flask or cuck cage.
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your overpowered free win character sir
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>>564541596
CINNAMON???
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>>564527923
your friends suck and you won't say it because you don't want to hurt their feelings.
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>>564544561
I honestly cant tell you the difference between a good shiv and a bad shiv. The good one has better movement but they both build the same items, do the same thing. Yet one witll be unkillable 20-0 by 30 mins and the other will just kinda exist
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>>564543901
Thanks. imma do it now
my heart be pounding though
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>>564527923
Your friends suck. If they were actually good you'd be winning like 80% of your games with them because nothing beats a coordinated stack, but instead you're playing with tards that probably die 4-10 times in lane phase every single game, and then they just brool nonstop thereafter. Remember, the more people in your stack that you have, the less chance you get of a good random getting put on your team
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>>564543967
just don't sit there and let him throw 4-5 knives at your head or buy remover lol. he has to wait like 60-75seconds depending on how many cooldown items he has to build up a stock of knives to checkmate someone, when there are ults that can kill half a team on a similar cooldown
>spammable dashes that get CD reduction and spirit resist shred
he has to pick if he wants to do this or make knives busted because you need t3 in either ability while also probably putting some value points in the other and 3/4 to make your early/mid game smoother, if he hyper minmaxes into one of these things he can do some stuid shit but he also has literally 1 trick and you can just do the appropriate counter of buying remover/not chasing him with 2 friends into that narrow hallway and pushing the objective

and then at the end game he can do everything but other characters can do 1 thing absurdly well to the point you can't even counterbuy it. shiv is solidly in that "strong but not too strong" A tier
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>>564529294
everything is worse
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>>564545275
they're trying but everyone is waiting for you to uninstall the game.
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>>564544889
>>564544561
Shiv niggers are so bad they miss daggers and dashes. People here talk about Silver players being bad but fuck me if most shivs aren't missing half their brains on a good day.
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>>564543967
yeah i guess if you twist the entirety of what you were saying, shooting it perpendicular to your current trajectory is the same as "alt fir[ing] it behind you"
holy retard lmao

>>564541458
>macro
>for shooting at an angle relative to your current momentum
a double pull
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>>564544889
the good shivs have the game knowledge to know when they can actually ape out and when they're being foolhardy and use their better movement to ensure they're in every good situation and escaping most bad ones
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>>564530653
how are they getting ahead without getting kills by 3 minutes?
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>>564545450
>Shiv niggers are so bad they miss daggers and dashes.
yeah it's almost like shiv has a skill curve and isnt just a brainless w+M1/aoe the size of the city block artillery character, otherwise even retarded shiv players would still do well
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>>564545470
Shooting 'perpendicular' isn't the point, the point is that you just shoot the shotgun behind where you are going and get ridiculous momentum. I understand you probably have worse autism than most do since you play deadlock.
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>>564545682
ahah he still doesn't understand it, holy
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>>564544561
>character is OP
>retards flock to them and tank his winrate
Not like this has happened with Mina, or Celeste, or Silver.
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>>564545842
all those characters had over 50% winrates when they were broken, they just got nerfed and people still played them because those characters attract gooners
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neon prime ost > troonlock ost
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>>564545842
Those are gooners flocking to a character and tanking the character's winrate, though
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>>564545645
It's just some schmoovement tism that you make into muscle memory, stop trying to pretend it's some 400IQ playstyle.
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>>564545842
>Silver
>op
Good bait
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>>564545587
never said they weren't. its just that even when they're pushing tower and literally shooting at him my lane partner won't even look at them I'm not exaggerating btw but then again it was low prio
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>>564546129
>people are gooning to the human skinned horse woman
you know she used to have hooves and look like an abomination right
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fuck gunmeta. game is dead.
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>>564545501
>this post is advertising or begging
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>>564546284
We're in a spirit meta thougheverbeit.
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>>564546358
>Seekertards unironically believe this
Second-hand embarrassment from you niggas.
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>>564546131
>it's just movement autism
>it's just landing all your knives and dashes unlike the bad shivs
why do you keep making excuses for how this stuff "doesn't count" when the actual top 5 winrate characters just leftclick at your vauge direction with near limitless bullet hoses, cover the entire area in aoe damage, spam autoaim turrets or just stun you and 100% you while you sit on the ground
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>>564546189
I dont believe you
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>>564546615
I accept your concession.
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>>564546358
>well ackshually, *snorts* guns deal spirit damage with capacitor, toxic bullets, merc mag and hero abilities. so... *tips fedora* it's a spirit meta
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>>564546615
>dynamo has a 46% pickrate
>still get him all the fucking time when I try to queue abrams
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spirit counters be like

>silencer (permanent)
>inhibitor (permanent)
>frenzy (permanent)
>dispel magic (permanent)
>spirit resilience (permanent)
>witchmail (permanent)

m1gger counters be like

>disarm (3 seconds)
>metal skin (5 seconds)
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>>564545078
Is trophy collector even good on Drifter (as someone who likes to roam and gank a lot)? I haven't bought it since 2025
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>>564546908
silencer is so great and yet if they were to implement an item that disarms and reduces the weapon damage of the target after hitting enough spirit damage it would get removed entirely within 24 hours
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>>564546908
witchmail is abused by spiritsissies
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>>564546908
Your generic bullet armor?
Plated armor?
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>>564547410
>i put on the witchmail
>paige leaves a nice green glow on the floor to tickle my balls and refresh my cooldowns
yep, its fast cooldowns time
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>>564546908
you forgot about reactive barrier
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every single game with a rem on my team is god awful
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>>564547553
counter against bepop and venator, 2 m1ggers
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>>564545501
I almost feel bad for you, at least you stopped afking.
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>>564546129
Alright yeah that's a fair point too, but that's basically the same thing that I said lol
>>564545903
Some were sub 50% while still being OP, like Mina, because you can't play Deadlock one handed.
>>564547350
Trophy collector is a terrible item since every game is decided by about 15 minutes in, you won't get any value out of the range or the souls per minute.
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>>564547538
I feel like plated armor is a meme
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ok relative newbie here, how many items should i be buying?
I usually have max slots by the end of the game, building up from T1 to higher tiers with buying and selling throughout the game
then I check my team and they usually all have only like 3 or 4 higher tier items
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>>564547409
>Haze throws a knife that disarms you stuns you and reduces your weapon dmg. Hits you with capacitor then ults you.
>Wraith and Seven have permanent upkeep on it with cards and power surge respectively
>Mirage
The problem is it still wouldn't fix the problem all too much unless you just start banning certain characters from buying items
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>>564548103
it is
>makes 1000 dps guns do 700 dps so you die in 4 seconds instead of 3
makes no difference 99% of the time and it's only worth it as a win more item when the other team actually takes a long time to kill you
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>>564548103
it's pretty shit (for 6,4k) against anybody that isn't infernus but even he gets to run around spreading fire aids instead of pure m1ggering
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Tankbuster % dmg and Scourge % dmg should scale with spirit power instead of being static
Also, spirit burn DoT should do % of max hp damage aswell
>B-BUT
shut the fuck up m1gger
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SO done with venator downplayers
>1600m/s bullet velocity
>all his shit either scales off weapon damage or is just innate free scaling based on networth
>amps
>1000 pure damage melees you can't build resists against
>pure damage ult that might as well be 3 carbines for how hard each hit rapes your momentum
>spammable 50% aoe anti heal
>so overtuned that even the biggest retard on the lobby going 5-12 will still top damage
now just imagine it in the hands of someone good. and people pretend he's 'weak'.
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>>564548106
open slots are a resource like any other.
saving them for later can be good to avoid having to sell T1 items later, but saving them and never using them is a waste since T1 items are great value.
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>>564548106
You shouldn't ever stop buying items. You can prioritize saving for big items if that is what you need to do but you will have a considerable downtime when you are weaker than the other players because you are saving for something if you do.
The most important part in the current meta is generally to hit your 4.8k investment spikes in each category. From there you can mostly do whatever.
The lads on your team who doesn't buy items could just be a little slow in the head.
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>>564548103
When behind it doesn't do anything
like anon said>>564548465
When ahead you just bought an item that only works against 1 or 2 guys at most while they might have just bought a big damage item to kill your team instead... And now you have less damage because you spent 6,4k on an item that barely does anything to at the very best 1/3 of the enemy team. This shit game might as well have that IQ graph with the low IQ grug buying only damage items cuz enemy ded good, the midwit buying defensive because it helps keep "momentum" and the high IQ also buying just damage items because the enemy can't do much if they are dead. It's the real reason some characters are giga broken, they don't need to buy defensive items other than 1 or 2 mandatory ones because they can just kill you instead or have built-in tankiness/escape. Game is unbalanced on a fundamental level.
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>>564548106
rush magic carpet, all you need
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>>564547861
why?
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>>564549227
unironically a great item on crippled 0 stamina cucks like paige
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>>564549227
the shmoovement wiki only mentions viscous' goo ball and mo&krill's dig being compatible with the carpet. is there any other bullshit you can pull off with it that i don't know about?
besides being the most immersive item to use as mirage?
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Not being able to aim sucks. Half the cast is just off-limits to me
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>>564549994
you can (or at least could recently) grab and fly with the urn by timing the carpet buff right
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>>564549994
billy ult, you can send people up close to max height if you know what you're doing
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>OMG how do i play vyper :((

Just get burst fire on every hero to practice it. to add, she has the most boring passive, only good thing about it is the shield. the whole slide thing should be a innate but were not in deadlock 2031 yet
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>>564550036
turn off mouse acceleration, set your sensitivity such that moving the mouse from the leftmost comfortable position to the rightmost comfortable position does a 360° turn, and make sure the area around your mouse is not too cluttered and that you have a decent amount of space.
after that it's just practice, but if you focus on a single niche like close range aiming or sniping for a week you should see some noticeable improvements.
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>>564550618
If Celeste came out in 2024 her lower gravity would've been a passive 3 instead of innately part of her
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>>564544561
i don't think hero winrates tell the whole story for a character's strength
now i don't think DNS does either, considering "pro"/comp play is a completely different game than ranked (in all games, for that matter)
but it does paint a pretty clear picture of what strong players competing for money think are strong/meta heroes

>>564550036
how bad at aim are we talking
or i guess the best filter question i could ask, what's your in-game sensitivity and your DPI
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>>564550478
oh i'm gonna abuse the fvck out of this
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VENATOR'S HEAVY PUNCH IS TOO FUCKING BIG, WTF IS THAT RANGE WITH AN INVISIBLE HITBOX
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My game is a slideshow. It's literally unplayable and feels like 1 fps.

Come on man, this shit has been going on for a year+ at this point. WHEN is it getting fixed? It's so random and makes the game unplayable.

I can't leave because then the game punishes me for d/cing, and if I stay I'm utterly useless and it pisses my teammates off no matter what.

Why are the dipshit engineering being paid 500k/yr so incompetent? It's been a YEAR of this shit.
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>>564551283
all heroes have the exact same melee distance and melee hitbox
billy has the only melee-related oddity, and that's that his quick melee recovers faster
the visuals can be a little inconsistent but even if they were perfectly accurate, they still wouldn't be, because of how latency works
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>>564537893
Tracklock feels more accurate
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>>564550684
Thx will try
>>564550993
I usually have ~30% or bellow accuracy in games that track it, its basically impossible for me to track moving targets. I play on 0.5 sensitivity and idk what my dpi is
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>>564537893
You dumbass you're looking number of games played, oracles play more games than any other bracket
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Someone sell me on Hollow Point Rounds. It seems like a win more item, unless you have heavy bullet life steal, but even then it seems like you can get nuked pretty easily in a 1v1 making it useless. Is it purely for clearing camps quicker?
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>>564552249
here some more tips nigger
do not go onto autopilot with aiming, keep thinking about it and keep forcibly retracking.
If your pov looks like a spastic tard twitching all over the place but also hitting more shots than normal onto them you are doing a good job.
also sens is a funny one, you need higher sens than normal for this game because of how vertical/fast things move
you'll be in a similar bracket to ow/rivals players
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>>564548865
>Tankbuster % dmg
needs to be changed or buffed or something, dogshit item
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>>564551417
they work off vibes, things only happen when they get a burst of inspiration or reddit makes enough of a fuss about an issue
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KELVIN BROS, WE SO BACK YEAH
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>>564526827

THERE'S NO ESCAPE
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>>564551417
I had some shit with G-sync or whatever it's called that made me get random minutes of 0 fps. I disabled that shit and everything worked flawlessly since then.
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>>564550993
shiv is pocked often in night shift but as you can see almost never banned, the night shift players just find shiv fun because he's a ton of fun once you get his movement down
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>>564553116
>every player has the same couple items
nice game deadtards
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>>564553381
That's what happens when you get a spiritsissy meta
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>>564552592
125 bonus health and 4.5 out of combat regen are really good stats on a weapon item. you can be above 65% hp for a good while because of the bonus health if you make sure to get greens, and if you're a character who is in some way able to open up on someone the huge bonus damage/shred means even if they eventually take you below the threshhold they're going to be a lot closer to being dead then you are and you can finish the job
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>dyanmo says he's doing a "no ult" build for a "youtube challenge"
just add surrender please
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>>564553606
also vamp burst is core on every m1gger
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>>564551417
mess with your g-sync settings, turning it on fixed it for me and turning it off worked for that other anon
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>>564531137
I don't get why you would play paradox, you put so much effort in for very little reward.
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>>564555606
thats literally what he said
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>>564545450
I feel like aiming is a separate skill from using your brain, anon...



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