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>Marathon Youtube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@MarathonTheGame

>Game Info:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/

>Marathon Game Home Page
https://www.marathonthegame.com/

>The Entire History of Marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhk
https://marathon.bungie.org/story/

>Play the Original Marathon for Free
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/

Databases:
https://tauceti.world/
https://tauceti.gg/
https://marathonmeta.gg/
https://marathondb.gg/

News:
>Mid-Season Update
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_106
>SEASONS & ROADMAP
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon
>Introducing C.A.R.R.I.
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_carri
> 4/21 Update
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1061

Previous run: >>564367774
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dead game lmao
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lmao dead game
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who's excited for night marsh!!
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r a p e b u n g i e
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>>564528794
When has a night map ever made a game better or been a wanted feature in a multiplayer game? To this day, players quit out of night maps in Hunt Showdown.
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>The game is doing poorly because [other reasons not related to the game sucking]
Look, the game isn't that cracked up as you guys make it. Look at Shroud, this game was made for someone like him. He dropped it within two weeks. Played a handful of Cryo matches and never looked back. The game is not bad but it is just there. Gunplay and movement is serviceable but nothing amazing despite what the shills would have you believe. It is not groundbreaking enough to have people main it as their number one game. It isnt.
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>>564528794
Indians being paid 20 cents a post, and braindead redditors.
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>>564529058
>Look at Shroud
No.
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>>564529058
It could be a lot better, but there are so many dumbass decisions that were made. Why is gold salvage so fucking rare when you need like a dozen for one upgrade? Why is some shit extraordinarily cheap and other shit costs 27 purples? Bungie fumbled this shit so hard.
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>>564529379
>Why is gold salvage so fucking rare when you need like a dozen for one upgrade?
Because live service games aren't games as much as they're funnels to MTX. The game exists to soak as much of your time as possible so as to expose you to cosmetics as much as possible. Hence trios and Bungie wasting your fucking time with rare salvage meant to keep you feeling like you have to play to get upgrades.
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>>564529379
>Why is gold salvage so fucking rare when you need like a dozen for one upgrade?
Bad game design.
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>>564529379
What does a shitty game do when it has no content? Make you grind the shit out of whatever content is there. Voila. Masterclass in game design.
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>>564529208
>Structuring the game to have such a power gap between people who have grinded and those who haven't is kind of a reason to not play til next reset.
Thats my point, those other extraction shooters do have that exact same gameplay loop, only some of them don't have wipes. To kepp to Tarkov, yes you can get a lucky in between the eyes one tap kill, but most of the time that guy with the end game loot will bulldoze you as your bullets literally do no damage. Again, this isn't fun according to you so people must leave and wait until the reset. But wait, Tarkov has no reset, so surely it must have lost 80% of its playerbase. No. It hasn't because people genuinely find it fun and don't need hamster wheel wipes to find a reason to play Tarkov. It is fun on its own, despite there being a clear power gap between the decked out players and the scrubs.

You think you can say losing 80% of players is normal because PoE or Diablo do it but those games are practically SP/PvE games. You grind through the content and it is done. You wait until more content. The reason PvP games are replayable is because of the human element which makes each round a little different each time. Unlike PoE where the AI will always behave the same and display the same behavior no matter how many times you load into the dungeon. It is by design far less replayable which is why people can play the same Fortnite map millions of times and not get bored but someone who goes through the seasonal content of PoE can drop it within a month.

You said it, a PvP game losing 80% of its players in two months is a bad sign, Marathon is a PvP game, proudly so claimed by its devs and it lost 80% of its players in two months. Big fat warning sign. Dont say that its normal because of a PvE game like Diablo or PoE. Other extraction shooters didnt lose 80% of their players within two months. It is not normal. It is a sign of a flawed game.
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>level 75
>do anomaly
>still only getting 6k credits
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it's over i lost it all in cryo archive except for about 30000 credits
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>>564529643
The MTX in this game isn't even good, though, and it's not like it's pay-to-win.
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>>564528794
>"Dire Marsh? At Night?"
>"Looks like we're heading into some kind of Night Marsh..."
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>But the bad players leaving
>But the shotgun
>But the salvage
>But the knife
>But shroud
Who gives a fuck, everyone knew during the beta, that casuals can't play this. It's a game about kills, no salvage/gear is gonna make you better.
It's the best survival combat game.
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Where's the free weekend bungie
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>>564530760
>Tarkov comparison
having a reset actively encourages this retention curve on its own. There is a 'that guy is geared to the fuckin gills and I have a very small chance of beating him' mental equation, and there being a seasonal reset gives a casual player that answer that 'oh I can just wait til next season' - the same way some people see a juiced Vaal Temple and the economy getting out of control and think 'well I'm irreversibly behind, time to just wait til next season'. Very few people play PoE as actually single player, SSF is a tiny fraction of the population, most play it within a context of a player driven economy which is in a extremely stretched sense a form of pvp, you absolutely can 'fall behind' and then it becomes harder to catch up. Even if the content itself is absolutely single player.
>It is a sign of a flawed game
Not gonna disagree, it is heavily flawed. The shitposter from last thread brought up ABI which I think is a great comparison point in that it has the same curves but has consistently had better retention (still what some people would call really fuckin high at over 50% loss over a season) - Marathon isn't dead, but it damn well isn't thriving.
Also I appreciate you bothering to actually reply and I do see your points, but god are people rabid to the point of delusion.
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Game is so good, it's about near-perfect planning and reaction time. During combat, luck is rarely involved.
People got redpilled on being fucking terrible at video games, and started begging for tasteless, boring SBMM garbage.
>People are too weak and stupid to learn, so they quit
Everyone knew that would happen, why are faggots bitching now?
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^ Consolenigs are mentally ill.
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>>564531225
lol he looks nothing like his pfp
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>>564532385
>>It is a sign of a flawed game
>Not gonna disagree, it is heavily flawed.
There's no flaw when it comes to PvP in this game, it's not thriving because people suck. They can't keep up with nerds, can't outcamp nerds, or outthink them.
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>>564532758
He got old and fat.
It'll happen to you too.
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Tarkov doesn't do mandatory wipes anymore
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Marathon should go turbo casual and become successful so I can laugh at these destiny faggots who cry every day about the WSTR nerf and upcoming self-revive nerf.
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>>564532856
>There's no flaw when it comes to PvP in this game
The shittiness of the pvp implementation is the main reason the game is dead.
It's not "hard". Quake is hard.
Marathon's pvp is just SHIT and unfun.
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>>564532532
Look at that fat retard in the background
I bet that little shit can't even do math
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hey guise did u kno that highguard was actually pretty good?
i was so enlightened not long ago
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>>564533216
>It's not "hard"
Why players no kill me, but I always kill players. Not hard for me, very hard for them.
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>>564532532
They want bungie to inject dopamine straight into their brain
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>>564532856
>it's not thriving because people suck
funny how this isn't true for any other popular competitive game right now, but Marathon apparently is the one good hardcore game that people don't want to bother with.
It just sucks, you're out of touch.
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>earnestly replying to the retarded trip fag
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>>564533515
>I always kill players
Not always. Maybe slightly more often than your average solotard.
But in the end, your wins will never offset the shitty experience of your losses no matter how much you pretend otherwise in this raped general.
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>100 melee
>run up to a thief in cryo
>catch her completely off guard and slash her 5 times
>this doesn't down her and she just kills me with a bully
It's fucking insane how useless they made melee
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>>564533515
Someone should edit Destroyer kneeling on George Droyd
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>>564533839
>solotard
Squads can't even hit me once
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>>564533879
First Person SHOOTER, anon
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>>564533993
>Someone should edit Destroyer kneeling on George Droyd
I can draw that
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Literal diers(dying shitters) ITT are telling me "game doesn't work, game bad".

You're terrible, garbage
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Thread Anthem
https://youtu.be/NpYh_Ffqy8g?I8nfEgzbEKUrLqbT
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Spiky Haired Girl Owes Me Sex
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>>564533838
It's a lose/lose. All of our trip/avatar fags are some of the worst I've seen in any general, but then we get all these tourist weirdos that don't even play the game coming here to shit on it all the time. Last thread when everyone was talking about codex and lore stuff was probably the best this thread has been.
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>>564534427
CT finally makes a good video
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>>564534682
ah yes the story of this game that is relegated to text entries outside of the gameplay
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>man in female shell is a troon
Its gay if you are a male playing a female shell. I will say it.
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>>564534469
I love this, and I'm disappointed that instead saying "poor, indie tier story content", people out themselves as walking trash cans by saying "flawed pvp, no fair".
Nigerians of video games.
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>>564534824
this is an agp-affirming safe space thread please leave your bigotry at the door tyvm
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>>564534804
>ah yes the story of this game that is relegated to text entries outside of the gameplay
>>564534907
>saying "poor, indie tier story content", people out themselves as walking trash cans
Didn't think it could get this based, but here we are
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>>564534824
Recon is not female, has dark alien lips like Frieza(son of king Cold)
>but the voice
Trolls shitters using a voicechanger, then fucks Vandal in the ass
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>>564533515
this looks like a baboon
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average rape victim
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>>564535702
I love stomping average Joe, and above average Kyle, fuck them.

The only one I don't wanna deal with is Chang Liu Bei Zhing Zhou
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>>564535702
>I raped someone and now people are mad at me?!?!?!?!?!
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you won, /mg/
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>>564536223
Of course we did, we're playing good gaem. Cocksuckers are only talking about gaem and can't do good on it.
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>>564534907
Maybe if you show clips of yourself 1v3'ing in cryo instead of shooting solos in the back at exfil and bragging about it, people would actually understand the point you're trying to make, but your ego probably couldn't handle going into Cryo and getting repeatedly fucked by the players you somehow think you're even on the same level as
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liking this WSTR nerf, just pulled a gold misriah, a green one, and a gold circuit breaker off a single team in cryo
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>>564535702
I kind of forgot that there's the one-way security from the colonist drone ground floor areas, and it's easy for a Thief to get up to the supposed to be SC2, then down to unlock the path for others, so Index/Cargo is definitely possible to invade without even SC1. Less egregious than the 'anyone can rush Biostock/Preservation' vents, but I guess that could technically be an even faster rush.
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>>564535702
He's right though.
>Yeah I exploited but if I didn't someone else would plus I'm shining a light on it for Bungie!
Okay but in the meantime you're still using an unintended map feature and boasting about it. If I was Bungie I'd ban you for two weeks.
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>>564536223
What did we win? Most raped fanbase?
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>>564537478 (me)
lol fuck it wasn't even the one I was thinking of
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>>564537642
no destiny won that
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>>564537934
Destiny is bigger than marathon
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>self-revives have iframes when you're standing up
lmao who designed this shit? I'm guessing it was intended for bots to not instantly smoke you when you get back up but this is retarded.

https://x.com/hiyahiper/status/2047385937672315099
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DING DONG, CONCORD 3.
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I wish Marathon launched with a free kit mode.
And a 20 hour campaign, with multiple endings, where everyone can fail, someone can win, and have romance.
PlayStation is stupid, for not forcing a campaign mode, with (((cinematic))) linear segments, cutscenes.
Keep multiplayer as is, but launch it with sponsored Marsh, Pedometer and Outpost. With the carri-money for those who exfil with bad loot.
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>>564537012
I've shown clips of how to break down squads and defeat them alone. Trash players still won't understand it.
Just leave the thread if you can't 1V3 Cryo and need me to show you.
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How is Dire Marsh more hellish than Outpost? Outpost and Perimeter are the only fun maps that I can just play whenever.
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>streamers whining they have to tryhard in cryo now
Love to see it, now they know how it feels.
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>>564539084
Dire Marah is the only good map because you never feel you are safe
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>>564538071
Obviously retard, if you've ever gotten back up near an AI enemy you'd know this
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>>564539378
>getting downed by bots
lol couldn't be me.
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>>564539524
bots are good cover for reviving anon
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>>564539284
How can you this based...
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>>564534024
The shooter won. No need to yell.
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I think they course corrected too much on the recon pulse aura
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Earlier I had a crew fill game on outpost and we just happened to kill every other team as they trickled into the action.
Basically a free run.
got the red armory in pinwheel
teamate got spectre armor
I got cryo key and misriah
Good times all around!
Then a rook went into command and despite the fact he didnt take anything and we could of exfilled at pinwheel hub without following him into his obvious as fuck trap, my bloodthirsty teamates rush in and die while I got overwhelmed by the two commanders in command.
Imagine that.
A free outpost run ruined by greed.
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>>564540098
>go invis to peek a corner
>recon instantly mag dumps me with their fucking faceplate open because I couldn't see their pulse glow anymore
Classic Bungo overcorrection, doesn't even make noise either.
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>>564540262
It's ok, you learned from this. You're better now, then before that run.
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I don't think every firefight at outpost and cryo should have endless supply of signal jammer and grenades and bubble, actually.
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>>564540335
>with their fucking faceplate open
With his faceplate open, you mean
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>sub 20k 24 hour peak
Nvidia literally has to release DLSS5 early to save this game
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I told Sony to release the game on PS Plus, so we can have +1K for 24 hours.
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Why are half the mods just not available to buy from Traxus/Arachne?
>so you have a reason to hit up tool carts
Shut uuuup.
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>>564542209
Because Bungie needed to set in motion the series of thoughts and events that would lead to you posting in this general
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The only thing I don't like about the game is how much taking damage puts you on the backfoot when fighting. If you get shot first, you are forced to take cover and heal yourself ASAP. There is no way you take a fight otherwise. You are forced to cuck out and hold a sharp corner with the WSTR OR back off and heal because you can't shoot back when you are already down shields and HP.
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>>564543503
>ou are forced to cuck out and hold a sharp corner with the WSTR
You can move away from a corner and use an SMG, or you can slide past someone's bullets(higher risk).
Everyone checks corners, corners are bad.
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Escaped cryo archive for the first time. Fill group(mostly play solo). It was... okay I'd say. I had no idea what the fuck was really going on. I felt I got carried as far as navigation by the randos. I held my own in combat. I am really shit at looting though. I ended up with like 5k in value. I always have issues with that because I hate sticking my nose in everything and looting because you can't see what the fuck is happening. Just makes me nervous for the WHOLE fucking squad to be looting at once. So I usually don't loot until after everyone else. But, Cryo was okay. I didn't hate it but I'd say I enjoy solo play more. The navigation is just so weird on Cryo.
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What man goes into a corner and gets checked? No man, no man at all.
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>>564543985
just play thief and turn on your goblin visor
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>>564543985
>he doesn't loot at the same as others
Stand proud, you don't let the loot jew cloud your mind. Forget loot, I'd rather be able to hear someone crouch walking.
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>>564544732
Thanks. The reason I don't like to loot when everyone else is looting is because you might have some rat rook try claymore shit. All the "rook clips" of a rook "1v3ing" is just because everyone was looting at once and they fucked on them. However, sometimes I wonder if I should loot a long with them because my loot value at the end of runs is always pretty low. But at the same time, would we have lived if I wasn't running overwatch? I have definitely caught people trying to slime around while my team mates were looting. So I know it happens.
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>Hunger for loot
Jewish propaganda
>Fear of combat
Rookie mistake
>Losing all the time and blaming the game
Brown coded behavior
>Playing Thief
Homosexual urges
>Killing at exfil
Fun haver
>Ganging up with Rooks
Fun haver
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>>564545047
>my loot value at the end of runs is always pretty low
Do you really need to gain credits fast? Exfil successfully as much as possible, you'll have gains. What's the point of a higher loot value, with more risk, and more failed exfils.
Like it or not, this is a game about killing, loot value per win is not important.
>But the streamers are flexing it
They're also working much harder to farm it, they waste a lot more time together, practice more, they're sick of each other, and have to keep doing it, because when they switch to something else, they lose current viewers, and won't gain new ones.
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>fill into outpost
>two free kits on my team
>first team we run into is triple golds
Bruh
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>I like number go up, I like to collect, can I play Marathon?
No, number in Marathon only goes up, after you kill players, then kill bots, then loot. Exceptions being when you're very lucky.
>I like to stalk, wait, torture people, smash them. Should I play Marathon?
Yes, clean, purely skill based combat is the core of Marathon. By clean I mean the game doesn't manipulate your account, you can kill lesser players all day long, and avoid better players.

This was obvious during the server beta.
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>Friends went from not playing Marathon to having it uninstalled and refusing to reinstall it until there's PVE
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>>564546975
/mg/ are your friends, we're playing it.
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>skulking around Quarantine for lenses
>clear the place
>bot reinforcements come in
>kill the commander
>like 5 minutes left in the round timer
>suddenly claymore I had placed way earlier goes boom, blue shield crack
>hear sprinting
>chuck a flechette
>crack again
>hear stealth sound as guy repositions
>pop stealth and sprint out door to intersection, hold angle in one of the buildings for a minute
>say fuck it and sprint across the whole map to guarded exfil at complex
>get out clean
>cam shows the guy picking at tick nests near quarantine
What's with other sins just skulking the map until final exfil every single time?
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>trying to do contract solo on outpost
>fucking Thief keeps hounding me across 3 different POIs even though i have jack shit, not even the right ammo for their weapons
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>>564547256
>What's with other sins just skulking the map until final exfil every single time?
Many of them are collecting trash and questing, they pick Assassin to bypass UESC for free.
They're often not very good fighters, they want to hide.
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>>564547432
That's a sadistic faggot bitch. Would be a sadistic straight man, if it was Recon instead.
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>>564547501
Personally I think he was in Maintenance and heard me shooting bots and was looking for trouble because I didn't hear a single gunshot on that side of the map the entire time and only saw like one exfil go off successfully.
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Way too late to play this as a new player, right? Should I just wait for F2P?
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>>564547810
Decently fun for a bit, but the grind gets a bit old at the 10 hour mark, and you'll probably be wiped quickly by higher gear players in PVP. Your choice if that's worth your time or not.
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>>564547970
I'll just wait for F2P then, thanks.
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damn, cryo is extra sweaty today. only exfilled once. 5 raids haven't even made it into control
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>eccentric salvage is literally just obedience matrixes,shell IDs and golds/reds
These contracts are AIDs
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>>564548173
kill more UESC
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I think Thief looks good, and has very powerful abilities.
Every time I get whipped by the little Thief drone, I chimpout, lose my patience, get extremely mad.
This is why I call Thief players faggots, not because the shell is bad, but because they piss me off.
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>Bungie releases a game with no content
>Doesn't act on it until a paid expansion
>Bungie releases a game with no content
>Doesn't act on it until a paid expansion
>Bungie releases a game with no content
>Doesn't act on it until a paid expansion
No other dev does this
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>get the jump on a guy with the volt thrower
>all shots on target he's literally standing still
>he turns and just shoots me three times in the head and instantly downs me from full blue shields and health
??????????????
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>>564549183
Proof that Marathon still has a chance. TRVST THE PLAN
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>>564549750
The market doesn't respond to goyslop as well as it did. Plus D1 and D2 actually sold well at launch.
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Why is Thief such a hard counter for Assassin it's kind of fucking insane that there are two (2) shells that full counter his stealth.
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>>564549183
ChudPeanut betrayed us
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>>564550019
Invis is an inherently shit mechanic, all shells should hard counter assassin somehow, to make assassin players feel like the timid little rats they are.
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I'm having funny thoughts about going back to solo, beating the shit out of people, and offering them to join me.
I usually kill 3 or 4, sometimes 6 in solo. Could I get 3 to join and form a gang of 4?
I could give it a shot, but what if I become more human in the process, and lose my rvpэ powers?
I don't wanna turn into a good guy.
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Crazy how there are 8 billion people on the planet and 1 million sales is like this crazy metric
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>>564550196
>I could give it a shot, but what if I become more human in the process, and lose my rvpэ powers?
the fact that you're already questioning it means it has already begun.
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>>564546975
>refusing to reinstall it until there's PVE
sissy needs to go back to arc raiders, this is marathon, only the strong survive on tau ceti IV
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>>564550847
FPS players are mostly on Counter Strike and CoD.
Plus Marathon looks like a weird cartoon. I thought it looks like dogshit, before I raped the beta and fell in love...
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>Click webm
>Console icons
>Close webm
Simple as.
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>>564551267
Good point, I'm gonna continue to brainwash myself, so I can resist feelings like empathy, or love.
That way I can pull off the nastiest ambushes, and not regret ruining the match for harmless players.
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>>564551478
Playing on a keyboard never crossed my mind, never will. PCs are for work, consoles are for games.
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i finally exfiled from cryo for the first time! all the shifts at the rape factory finally paid off. i got two kills just from crouching in a corner and watching our flank while we decided where to go that decided the fights for our team. this game is so fun
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>play as a destroyer
>somebody tries to get close to me
>kinda fuck up and have no shields and low on health
>pull up my tactical shield ability
>he tries to get me down with a knife
>simply stand facing him for like 5 seconds slowly backing up
>an UESC bot pulls up from behind him and shoot him in the back
>he's down
>turn away, run like a motherfucker, heal and exfill succesfully later in the run
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>>564552731
You remember those old I'm a Mac and I'm a PC commercials. You're the PC guy
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Remember, to do what you want in Marathon, you have to choose to do it.
Don't worry about it, refuse to worry, refuse to get nervous, that way you will unlock your potential.
You will be more powerful, aware, deadlier, when you refuse to get nervous, refuse to be sad, and refuse to regret doing "bad" things.
>You feel something bad, or sad
>You refuse to feel it
>Now you can do things in better, more effective ways
>Because you refused to let negative thoughts stay with you
Throw your weakness away, burn it. You can choose not to feel tired, you can win.
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i am so happy to hear that marathon is failing. it's no less than what you deserve for giving up on destiny
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>>564553525
>this game is so fun
Ah, a new ascended one. Congratulations on unlocking your potential, you know strength.
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>go on a Rook run for some green salvage
>still pretty early in the match
>find an open key room under maintenance
>no-one inside
>no signs of a fight
>a couple boxes were open with ammo on the ground, but everything else was completely untouched
I could not fucking believe it. It was like a trio should have been in there waiting to jump me, but instead I ghosted out of that game with a ton of good shit.
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>>564553748
I'm a console dudebro, with less aiming skills, than PCbros, because no mouse.
By nature, I make up for it by being much smarter, and faster than the average player. Imperfect aim won't stop me from killing better players either, aim is a mechanical skill, and it doesn't rule Marathon.
You're not gonna beat a trickster, just because you're better at aiming.
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I didn't mean to reply to the Destiny cucкoId>>564554105
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>marvel reddit reaction gif
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Remember, to do what you want in Marathon, you have to choose to rape it.
Don't gape around it, refuse to gape, refuse to get dilated, that way you will unlock your circumference.
You will be more virile, aggressive, rapier, when you refuse to get flaccid, refuse to be soft, and refuse to regret doing "rape" things.
>You feel something turgid, or hard
>You refuse to feel it
>Now you can rape things in better, more effective ways
>Because you refused to let penetrating members stay inside you
Throw your rapedness away, burn it. You can choose not to feel gaped, you can win.
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Can I play marathon if I'm a black man?
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WE'RE COMING FOR L4D2
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>>564554592
He was good as Wolverine in the first 3(three) movies. Fuck you
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>>564554676
Only if you play as the designated class.
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>>564554676
Yes, we have black console players on here, Rise and Highfive
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>>564547810
If you don't have a dedicated team of three, you should abso fucking lutely not get this game. Period. No arguments. Solo was a last second addition, and you can't even play the biggest, most complicated map, or do any of the experimental modes. The intended solo mode, rook, doesn't let you do the absolutely critical contracts.
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>>564554780
Euro Truck bros, we got too cocky
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>>564555147
Stop demoralizing the potential recruits. Maybe he would like to exfil camp 24/7
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Do you think part of the "issue" is that Marathon isn't a military styled shooter of some sort with modern day guns? I have found that games like tarkov and other mil sim shit do well. but because we have a lot of wanna be operators in the gaming community. I personally like sci-fi styled games more than mil sim shit.
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>>564555428
too many bullpups, not enough vodka/sausage
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>>564555428
the "issue" is that the game is ass
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>>564555428
No, the is just shit.
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>>564555428
>Do you think part of the "issue" is that Marathon isn't a military styled shooter of some sort with modern day guns?
Of course it is. During the beta I came here and said that the game looks like play-dogh dogshit, and those who're defending it are trannies.
Then I played it, came back, and said I love the game.
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>fight off UESC
>noticing movement on stairs
>see what looks to be a player
>they dash and I see it's Destroyer
>literally one second later they've already downed me with the knife even thiugh I heard so steps after dashing into the room where im on the far side
Amazing latency
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>>564555428
no, see >>564529058
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>>564555428
You learned the wrong thing from tarkov doing well. It's because of the attention to detail in design and sound, and the level of customization that makes its guns a step above everything else. The mil sim aesthetic is secondary to that, otherwise it would be like any other game on the market. If you're a gun autist, there is no better game than tarkov on the market
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>>564555428
>Do you think part of the "issue" is that Marathon isn't a military styled shooter of some sort with modern day guns?
No, people just like good games. Marathon is not a good game.
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>>564555681
Sir. Halo is epitome mil sim shit. The only guns that don't look modern are the covenant guns. Ontop of the marine "OH RAH" type shit. The humans in that game even drive fucking humvees still.
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>>564555943
>t. has never played a halo game
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>>564555862
>tarkov
>GUN CUSTOMIZATION
Holy fuck you are a retard. Tarkov actually has very little gun modification in the grand scheme. Especially as you level up. You basically fire up whatever is meta with whatever is the meta ammo type to use. Tarkov is ass when it comes to guns. Yes it has many guns but many are complete and utter dogshit. Over 50 percent of the ammo types are dog shit as well.
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>>564555882
>Boringpunk
>Good game
You like the movie cutscenes with the option to choose dialogue, the combat is dogshit.
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>erm...what the milsim is this?
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>>564555749
Game has been fucking rubberbanding for me all day, I wonder if someone is DDOSing the servers
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>>564556127
The game is good and obviously better than Marathon, even when you just compare the launch versions.
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>>564555882
lmao I really hope you aren't being serious with this it took like 5 years for Cyberpunk to become well regarded it was a dumpster fire at launch. One of the few games on Playstation to get no questions asked refunds. Sit down.
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>>564556215
>when you just compare the launch versions.
I compared all virgins. CP is a movie game, not a fun combat game.
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>Marathon failed because people don't buy sci-fi games
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>>564556456
The combat in Cyberpunk was better than Marathon at launch, it's leagues better now. That's why 5 years after launch, it still has more players than Marathon. Marathon is a game for nobody but Bungie shills.
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>Marathon plays like shitty slow Apex
>I think I would rather play Apex
>Leaves to go play Apex
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>the combat in Cyberpunk was better than Marathon at launch
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>>564555282
You aren't going to go Ubisoft on me are you? You lose credibility unless you go forward with honesty.

>>564555428
No. See Halo and Destiny, mass effect games, cyberpunk. The sci fi guns and heroes looking like unappealing cheap 3d printed dogshit as opposed to being heroic and cool is an issue.

They lost all the senior staff with any kind of actual firearms experience. They spent more time making sure the shells and guns passed sensitivity readers for race and gender than making sure they looked badass.

Yes, I know the plot. And people on earth are already printing better guns than this garbage.
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>>564556469
That sci-fi game doesn't look like weird play-doh shit. And it's easier to play, which makes it easier to sell.
>Had a physical release
Also helps sell it, people who love the X360 and PS3 gen, hate buying digital. Digital-only systems are dogshit.
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>>564557161
Sony obviously didn't think a physical release of Marathon was worth it, and they were right.
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>>564557156
>You lose credibility unless you go forward with honesty.
I'm honest about loving to exfil kill 24/7 in solos. He could like doing that too.
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>>564557285
Sony made a bad decision. It's a first party game, it should've gone gold(physical print). It's not prestigious to release 1st party digital only. I chimpout when Microsoft does digital only too.
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>>564556138
Who the fuck would bother? More likely it's combining fucks from too far away as population drops.

>>564557318
Well, I suppose a player who loves the fuck out of rape both giving AND recieving has a place in this game.
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>>564557161
Marathon did get a physical release
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This is me when a game comes out with no disc version.
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>just murdered two blue-inventory guys as a rook with only a pistol
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>>564557619
>Well, I suppose a player who loves the fuck out of rape both giving AND recieving
Receiving? I always win. Do you have the game, join me on sponsored Dire marsh for 5 runs. 10 minutes each. I'll kill one squad and we'll exfil every time.
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>>564556092
It's the gun autist game, you're just a retard
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>Sci-fi doesn't do well
>The next Tarkov game is sci-fi Tarkov
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>>564557952
Mr tirgger finger
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>>564558332
Why's that one dude wearing a wifi-router on his head?
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>>564558332
Sci-fi does well if you're not retarded like Bungie
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can someone buy me the game, thanks
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>>564558645
F2P is in a month or two, it sucks now anyway.
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Marathon isn't just sci-fi, it's "goofy and gamey looking" sci-fi.
The only reason I tolerated how goofy the game looks, is the combat. Outstanding combat.
Before playing the game, i thought Fortnite looks better. Then i played it, my rvpэ powers awakened, and I couldn't stop exfil killing.
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>become so bitter and spiteful that I no longer care about gear
>walk into Cryo fill with Gold Misriah and 30,000 MIPs rounds
>no grenades, just one stack of healing, one stack of shields
>and I fill my inventory with MIPs rounds
>never used Misriah, much less the Golden full auto one
>it does 168 damage per shot
>two shots kill ANY player and most robots
>people try to peek at me
>BLAM BLAM BLAM
>just walking around full autoing this affront to God and nature
>people try to WSTR me
>that doesn't work anymore, buddy
>BLAM BLAM BLAM
>people panic and scatter, understanding slipping through their hands
>kill every single mouthbreathing infant within a 15 meter radius of me
>kill some team trying to do vault 2
>kill some team trying to do vault 5

I love this thing so much. I can't remember the last time I had so much fun in this dogwater Destiny spinoff. I like you, don't come to Cryo this weekend.

Too bad this corpse game only has a few months left.
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>>564558124
>join me on sponsored Dire marsh for 5 runs. 10 minutes each. I'll kill one squad and we'll exfil every time.
Are you gonna join, or no?
I'm about to go start.
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>>564559036
>>become so bitter and spiteful that I no longer care about gear
I'm glad you started to feel the real game.

I was always spiteful, and only cared about kills.
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>>564558332
https://youtu.be/7-cP-47CVxw?si=TDX_P9ey0eUWt_gQ

a full lore trailer, i thought it was interesting
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>>564558124
>>564559064
My team is set, and I am frankly afraid of your exfil cock guillotine power level. Anyone else want to fill in? I bet you some of you could learn something from him.
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>>564558880
>"goofy and gamey looking" sci-fi can't do well
It can, just not went it takes 850+ people to make, $300M+, and 6 years.
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Marathon's downfall was the incel chud epidemic
The game itself is fine
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>>564559372
Does that game have the same number of players as Marathon, or more?
By do well, I mean having players. I don't give a fuck how much money Sony lost.
I don't care how many devs.
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Why would development cost matter to me? I want to play the game.
They can crunch their devs to death, or lose endless money, I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna play it.
They can replace artist with AI, I still don't give a fuck.
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>>564559535
It was made by one guy and it was his first IP. It's estimated to have sold half the copies that Marathon did.
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>>564559692
It's a live service game, if there's no money being generated there's no game to play.
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>>564559230
Yeah, I think I've gotten to the point where I only care about Steam Charts, doom posting in this thread with you guys, and skinning people in the game who want to progress.
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>>564559372
Imagine if instead of an extraction game Bungie made an immersive sim with the Marathon artstyle
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>>564559786
>if there's no money being generated there's no game to play.
Wrong. Sony is keeping the servers live, and should keep doing it.
>How will Sony make money
Not my problem
>How many Bungie devs get fired
I do not care.
Game is good, and has players for me to kill, when they want to exfil.
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>>564560321
And this retard forgot about Concord
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>>564560364
Not my problem. Keep Marathon live, do PS Plus.
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>>564560443
Yeah retard let's just keep vibing. Who cares about sales and player retention anyway?
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FYI if they decide to sell children, to make money, after losing it with Marathon, I also don't give a fuck.
As long as I have the game, what Sony tries to do, doesn't matter.
I give zero fucks.
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>>564556563
>infinite pressure and tension in solo
>have to listen to every little sound, every step carries weight
>every exfil feels earned
>bad apex in trios
>run around wherever with whatever
>don't even care if i exfil
>most of the game is just pausing to open a menu and drag items in and out of my inventory
bungie sucks, ziegler and his design team are being carried hard by the art and sound teams
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>>564560576
You have a digital license to access a live service game that can be revoked or shut down at any time for any reason.
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>>564560727
>can be revoked or shut down at any time for any reason.
Hasn't been shut down yet, don't want it shut down until GTA6. Don't care how, it's Sony's problem.
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>>564560802
It's your problem too if you like the game
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>Like the game
>Come to discuss it
>Wanna see cool things done by players
>Faggots are talking about Sony's money
>Money this, retention that
It's like I'm talking to redditors, except they use the f-slur faggotword. Fuck you
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>>564560727
bet this nigga bought a lifetime pass to hellgate london and is still salty about it.
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>>564560930
>It's your problem too if you like the game
How so? I'm playing it in 5 minutes, and I know I can play it tomorrow. Why should I waste time talking about Sony's money?
>Talk about someone else's money
That's Alisaposter level cucкoIdry
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>>564561160
Prove you can play tomorrow, any game dependent on servers is not guarnteed. Go play Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo ODST, or Halo Reach on the Xbox 1/360 officially. Live service games are even susceptible to this, go play Concord or Highguard right now. Oh wait, YOU CAN'T.
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I still wish that Marathon was anything but an extraction shooter just because there are some Codex entries that are cool. Anything related to most items, guns or class abilities tends to be extremely dry and throwaway, but anything related to paranormal aspects like shared nightmares among the crew or the fact that some believe that Tau Ceti IV could be a living planet-sized organism trying to communicate with the human settlers is cool. And it'd be great if this reboot were something like a Bioshock or Dead Space kind of game instead of an extraction shooter we ultimately have.
Its also hard not to be mad at Bungie because even if this game somehow does get a fun PvE mode, you just know that they're never going to properly implement parts of the lore into the story considering their history with Destiny 2.
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>>564561324
>Prove you can play tomorrow
It's April 23rd, East coast.
It's April 24th in Russia.
I can have a Russian use a VPN on his Russian PS5, log into my account, and fire up the game.
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>>564561532
>Xe thinks Russians are allowed to play a Bungie game in 2026
Who's going to tell xer?
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>>564560930
I don't like the game, though? Any amount of enjoyment I get from it is against my will.
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>>564561039
ikr, 4chan chuddies are so insufferable
>lol lmao your tranny gayme is dying xD its a totally original take that havent been said at least over 10k times by now
absolutely obsessed with shit they dont even play
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#MarathonTakeover
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>>564560727
Concord lost all meaning as an insult so fast
Marathon is not a Concord. It didn't shut down instantly. If all you mean by Concord is "woke and I don't like it" then you're a retard.
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>>564561743
>Concord lost all meaning as an insult so fast
>Marathon is not a Concord. It didn't shut down instantly. If all you mean by Concord is "woke and I don't like it" then you're a retard.
Say it again. Let the camera know how you really feel about this $300M+ flop
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>>564561671
>>Xe thinks Russians are allowed to play a Bungie game in 2026
My Russians will do anything I say.
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>>564562101
I don't see Marathon running on from a Russian IP
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>>564561858
Refer to the last 3 words of my post
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>>564562101
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>>564562218
Refer to my entire post
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>>564562239
None of this is Marathon
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Do you think Sony could pressure Nvidia to release DLSS 5 early to save Marathon?
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Sony should have cancelled Marathon
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>>564562447
>Do you think Sony could pressure Nvidia
No, because Nvidia can tell Sony, that it's not Nvidia's fault Pc gamers are poor, and only 15% have the best hardware. While the rest of them run sloppy toasters.
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>>564562447
Sony hasn't used Nvidia hardware since the PS3.
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>>564562447
I run this shit on a laptop. High end laptop, sure, but still a laptop. Not sure what anyone's complaining about when it comes to optimization.
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>>564562909
i play on a laptop too and run the game at 1280x800 and medium to get good fps, which works
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>Sony's money loss
Doesn't matter
>Bungie's employees
They don't matter either
>What does matter?
The truth, which is
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Retard
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>>564562447
Bro FSR and DLSS literally don't do anything I don't think adding another number to it is gonna fix it. It's a core issue with the way Tiger Engine handles it's rendering and function calls.
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I've identified the problem, there are not enough fights and when there are fights losing them sucks too hard. Extraction Shooter is such a dogshit genre, they made this game with beautiful art direction and then ruined it by catering only to streamers.
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Sometimes I feel guilty when I get the drop on a guy but then I think to myself, would he have shown me mercy?
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>>564564098
the answer is no
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>>564564271
Exactly.
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Will exitlag help my Aussieass to find more matches?
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>1k gun
>4k of random bullshit mods/meds
>white shield
It's cryo time.
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>>564564486
Get the real thing, a Netduma router, or even better, get a Series X or Ps5, with a netduma.
That way if it keeps dropping you into lobbies with recognizable names, you cut off cross-play for a while, and get completely different lobbies.
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>>564564098
I would have, but then again I don't play the game anymore so it probably won't be me
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Every single time, I fully intend to get an unfair drop on a guy. Picking up a Mercy kit never crossed my mind.
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bungie employees if you are here please add a PvE only mode where we can be raped by enemies in peace instead of being raped by other players to where you CANT PROGRESS PRIORITY CONTRACTS
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If there's no safe pocket with Season 2 this game will be turbo dead
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>>564565549
But I don't want PvE, I want to do PvP, but I also want to fucking do shit like Compiler. Just add a deathmatch gamemode or something, too, it's bullshit that I literally am not going to get to do my one goal of the season because I don't have any friends that still play this game.
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>>564565804
>Just add a deathmatch gamemode or something
You think I'd ever switch to a PvP only mode, instead of tracking you to the exfil? I would never stop looking for you.
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>>564565549
>instead of being raped by other players to where you CANT PROGRESS
Sshhh, just let it happen
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>KKKungie
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back to 20k
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>hear about new dire marsh mode
>yeah sure that sounds like something. not really substance but something adjacent in an abstract way. i played nearly 150 hours of this, i stayed up late every night for a month. i wonder why i stopped playing?
>reinstall after not playing for two weeks
>move from quarantine to maintenance
>get sniped from the fog
>uninstall
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>>564567960
thinking of reinstalling just to take a longshot into perimeter lobbies and camp chokepoints to help churn new players if this is how bungie wants to be
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>get 2 black teammates
>they call each other nigga
>turn on mic
>you gangstas you tryna call in exfil and camp it?
>they both say let's do it
Holy based, I'm not racist anymore WTF
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really the only reason why I still have the game installed is to datamine secrets and release them to the public in advance.
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here's a question:
does sony own bungie's intellectual properties?
given that they possess the studio outright
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>>564569414
they own destiny
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>>564569576
they also own marathon as well, no?
this in the context of the studio eventually facing total digestion and its contents being ceded to the body that claims it
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>>564569628
yeah they own marathon too
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>>564569686
fascinating
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>>564569414
>does sony own bungie's intellectual properties?
Bungie is not independent, Sony owns everything.
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No physical release and still top 4.
It's over 2(two) million copies. Probably 2.5 by now.
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>>564561671
I'm Russian and I currently have 85 hours on Marathon. The only thing I can't seem to do is upgrade to Deluxe Edition of the game without paying the full price, since no one is selling those keys.
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>>564571790
Ti che tut zabil pidoras, nashelsya blyat rashan suka
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>>564571690
Who gives a fuck. Sony's money doesn't matter. How Marathon is maintained doesn't matter. As long as it's live and has players for us to kill.
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i've been play solo assassin free kit to do the priority contracts because i don't want to burden people and also just play rook on outpost a lot when my vault gets an open space or two, and i've managed to get pretty decent at the game. it makes it easier when my free kit is mida so i can use the bully. but now i'm sitting on 20+ purple shields that i don't want to bring into team fill, and i'm also afraid to use my two misriahs because they're pretty rare.

also, i feel like sometimes it's a better use of time and effort to just open up some of the armories on outpost instead of the clusterfuck that is pinwheel.
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>>564572420
Don't sleep on the armory rooms you can get some pretty fucking good blues out of them. I always try to hit one up before leaving if Pinwheel never gets opened or the lobby is very hot on Pinwheel. Processing one is kind of a meme because it's part of a quest but I guess you could camp it out and jump whoever comes for it.
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>>564572420
>that i don't want to bring into team fill, and i'm also afraid to use my two misriahs because they're pretty rare.
What's the point of having stuff and not using it. It will make doing your contracts easier, geared up doesn't mean you'll get sloppy, and less careful. It means you can get away with a mistake, and have less bad luck.
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Another weekend of gear lost to
>why would the game's network be functional
in Cryo, it's so delightful dying in one bullet from an M77 while sliding through a 2 foot gap for a tenth of a second. I think I've had a single weekend in Cryo that wasn't plagued by either blatant cheaters, ridiculous rubberbanding, or just getting shitstomped by pre-nerf Disinjector.
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>>564572987
Yeah the rubberbanding is so shit I'm just gonna freekit/rook until they fix it. I still think they're getting DDOS'd
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>>564572598
i definitely hit up the armories on solo free kit and sometimes get a useful shield or backpack. my last run tonight i hit up the one in processing and ended up with a better bully with a blue suppressor and a blue shield. i decided to get a little greedy and still went up to pinwheel after someone opened up. a vandal just finished up taking down a purple uesc, and i melted them down with the bully right after and a bunch of their purple gear.

>>564572962
i'v only started recently playing with other people insteam of using fill, and i use my purple shields and better gear then. i just don't want to use my good gear for team fill when i get stuck with two reckless shitters on free kits. i don't have a problem just spending neurochem for a bunch of blue shields and even bring them in for the likely free kit players i get stuck with.
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I just spent three fucking hours trying to do symbiote kill quest. Every time I would either die on the way, or get a clear run of it but see no players after injection. Fuck this stupid game. I hate every single one of you that ignores my carri peace offerings.
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>>564573183
>and i melted them down with the bully right after and a bunch of their purple gear.
Hell yeah, that's what it's about.
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>>564573308
>run all over dire marsh and then kill a nigga for me!
>okay now go to outpost and kill 18 bots, just do it!
>runner your bitch wife is nagging me okay go for a run in dire marsh for mommy!
G-glory to Sekiguchi....
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>>564573112
It's just so fucking tiresome to put in a ridiculous amount of time gearing up, and then you don't even get to lose it to an actual fight. Just the game breaking. Over and over again. On paper the loop makes sense, it actually felt really good that one weekend it was functional, but when most of your pinnacle content is just
>whoops you died to shit outside of your control
it's just fucking maddening. We don't have enough time to power through how often the game is broken, we get maybe 6 runs of cryo per week just due to my crew's time constraints/real life obligations - it's supposed to be the payoff part of the weekly loop, the high stakes high power stuff. Whoops, 3 hours + the time you spent gearing up down the toilet, try again next week where it'll be the exact same thing but maybe someone else will get fucked over hard enough that you actually get to go into a vault. Definitely no actual skill involved, just roll the dice on who has less network problems.
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>>564573664
love the worm
pass down the worm
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>>564574130
>>564573664

pass sekiguchi on the left hand side
pass sekiguchi on the left hand side
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>>564571690
>Digital sales not included for marked titles
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>another episode of "Is the team that just wiped us actually cheating or they somehow heard us crouch walking?"
This game needs a killcam yesterday.
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>>564574354
Physical not included for unmarked Marathon
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Frag grenades are so fucking funny man.
Why would they nerf melee so hard when nades can nearly instagib a blue shield without even needing line of sight?
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>>564571690
mamma mia
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How goes the cryo games?
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>>564571690
here's one with estimates for the missing digital sales data
also, keep in mind that NPD/Circana is US sales only
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>>564575402
How the fuck is WWE still a top selling game?
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>>564575307
Because they’re limited while everyone is guaranteed to always have a knife. Buffs/nerfs are used to shape how the game’s played and they have data showing a strong knife makes a worse game. Use your noodle.
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>>564575487
Do not underestime the hyper fixations of sports fags.
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Grenades should be a full commit you have to stow your gun to use with a proper windup, that would instantly fix grenade spam.
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>>564575834
I agree, they made the same change in Tarkov. You used to be able to spam the G key for grenade, they changed it so you have to equip them. Very needed.
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>>564576106
They're too prideful since they're the studio that invented the "press [button] to grenade" rather than having to equip it first.
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>>564574987
It’s still crazy that 343 were able to implement kill cams in Halo 4 as a casual game, and Bungie can’t do it for their pro game.

>>564575378
I got raped and lost my gear multiple times. At least I got some kills compared to last week, but it’s fucking annoying trying to find Biolens Seeds just so I can finally get a blue shields upgrade for NuCal.
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>>564576572
If you're hunting for Biolens Sneeds naturally don't fucking bother, I got all of mine from the faction level ups.
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I hate this game and its rotten sociopathic players. Carri is a fucking joke when the voice in your head say "KILL EVERYONE, LEAVE NO FRIEND UNFUCKED"
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Nobody comes to Hauler for some Brawlers anymore I kill like one dude in there and everyone avoids it :(
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>>564576641
I get all mine from camping the case during the third lockdown and clicking as fast as I can
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>>564575378
I don't know my friend is still fucking level 24 despite playing with me a little bit a week since launch. He sucks donkey dicks at the game and chokes on perimeter shootouts. I've given up hopes of ever going.
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>>564571690
What? Where did you get your 2 million figure from? That would put it at 80 million rev.
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>>564578903
It's called extrapolating off of the sales of other games.
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This game has such random weird elements to it that catch me by surprise, like if you jump on those little tarp awnings outside those two little loading bays by Quarantine where all the trucks are you will just fall right through them. Just a completely random little reactive element of the game.
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>>564579019
I don't think you accounted for wwe being a more expensive game, and that indies like Slay the spire are a known blind spot for circana. How did you get 2 million?
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>>564579875
I'm not the anon who posted the sales charts I just googled pokopia sales and presumed it was in that ballpark based in the original graph and not the adjusted one.
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>>564580193
Nintendo is also a known blind spot for circana, because they don't report in the same way as other big companies. Circana also goes by rev, not number of copies..
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>>564580435
Fair, 2 million sounds like a big number but would still be far under their production costs even before accounting for things like revenue cuts from Steam and such.
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>>564580435
>knowing circana lore
>being so deep in the not playing games part of the video games hobby that you obsess over numbers for games you both didn’t make and don’t play to such an extent that you hallucinate your own when they’re unavailable
>this is how the most intelligent life form for thousands of trillions of miles in every direction spends its finite time
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>>564577986
First week of launch was most fun ngl, Hauler was the place to be
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Honestly now that i think about it, this game would have been absolutely stellar if it was something like Mooncrash. Everything about the way this game works would make for an amazing /Extraction shooter Immersive sim.
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no one noticed this
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>>564581496
Actually I noticed it instantly on sponsored dmarsh because I didn't hear gunshots for the first three minutes instead of the first minute thirty.
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>>564581496
Its so cool that they made the experimental mode also the easiest one to complete world events in. I'm finally able to catch up
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Why does the game sometimes go BRRDUNK randomly?
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8 minutes left in a rook match and two teams were still up what the hell
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>>564582302
This makes more sense than entering as Rook at 17 minutes and there being no one around which has happened to me way too often.
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>somehow killed a trio as rook with my shittily placed claymores on one of the pinwheel elevators
>we both just see each other for a second before they go boom and down two of them
>down the third guy as he stands there stunned
>finish two
>third goes for self rez
>down them again
>only find two bags because the third one glitched out
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What was Bungie's endgame when they decided to make a sweaty, competitive pvp-centric extraction shooter and then gave it no firing range, no match replays, useless damage stats on death, and no killcams?
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>>564580809
LOL. This isn't deep. This is basic shit that anyone who has seen tendies slap it out with kusonies and xboners, and the PCMR long enough should know.
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>>564584178
Let them cook
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>>564584178
They had no other viable games in the pipeline. They aren't getting the quarter to half billion they need unless they can produce here without getting their leadership decapitated. It's do or die time.
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>somehow another rook sprints up behind me without me hearing him until he's on top of me
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>>564583740
>>somehow killed a trio as rook with my shittily placed claymores
Good work
>>564584178
>hat was Bungie's endgame when they decided to make a sweaty, competitive pvp-centric extraction shooter and then gave it no firing range
They did something they haven't done before, to them, it's new, and they went in the new direction balls deep. Survival extraction shooter-figure stuff out on your own, survive.
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>>564584392
Mistakes happen, your system, or game code can have an error. This is why I always look in every direction while listening to someone sneak. Hear a guy crouch walk 20M away, i still look around while listening to him.
You won't get caught like that again.
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>>564585358
It's main bottleneck is the cpu. My GPU shrugs this game off but my cpu is constantly sitting at 90-100% for some reason
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>>564585438
well the min cpu is from 8 years ago, you should prob upgrade
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>>564585545
Mine's only 4 years old thank you very much
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wew lad
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I have been chillin on easy mode, sponsored Marsh with randoms.
But it feels like I'm about to relapse, and go back to ambushing solo questers...
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anyone got a steam key, wanna play but dont want to spend the money
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>>564581215
>/Extraction shooter Immersive sim.
It's immersive solo. You sneak around like it's a single player game and you're trying to find killers to ambush. Sometimes you find scared weaklings, prey.
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>>564587160
Honestly I feel like solos just have a wider range of experiences than trios slamming into each other until the map is empty. Some solo matches I'll get into pitched firefights, third party someone, skulk around the fighting, run into a friendly, not hear a fucking thing the whole game and more.
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>>564585358
Those specs would be lucky to get 60fps on low at 1080p
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>>564587358
Solo has more varied experiences of how you approach the map, but trios has more varied fights since here can be give and take, and room for positioning/flanking while actively fighting.
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>>564584993
>They did something they haven't done before, to them, it's new, and they went in the new direction balls deep. Survival extraction shooter-figure stuff out on your own, survive.
Saars
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>no solo cryo
bait-and-switch
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>>564587936
Yeah combat options are much more confined, it's basically just all ambush tactics and maybe trying to mindgame someone with smokes.
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>rook outpost
>see another rook go up conveyance
>we crouch at each other but i was too slow to make it up
>finally get up, but there's dead bodies everywhere and a hostile rook trying to kill everyone
>back away and come back and there's claymores everywhere
>find a ladder that's not covered.
>manage to loot some purple weapons, biolens sneed, and other valuables
>get shot in back by hostile rook
>check the TTV
>it's a nigger
I'm not surprised.
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>>564583740
>only find two bags because the third one glitched out
it's at the bottom of the elevator, amigo.
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>>564587358
>Honestly I feel like solos just have a wider range of experiences than trios
>>564587936
>Solo has more varied experiences of how you approach the map
Both solo and trio are good on this game, yes.
I always preferred solo, because I don't like when someone has a boyfriend to help him.

Sponsored mode is 10/10, great. A helper doesn't really matter there, unless everyone is in one room, which would be retarded.
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>>564588416
>to mindgame someone with smokes.
Remember you can also throw Recon's spider far away, and disorient someone for a split second, he will look at it. And probably think you're behind it.
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How common are the DNA access cards? I've opened like 6 vaults and only found one.
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>>564590491
recon's cool now for solos. loving her
assassin's still the best at making spacebucks in solo Q (more consistent to exfil with, and easier to raid pinwheel) but if you just want to kill runners there are some options now
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>the Stacy Thief rejects the virgin Assassin
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Time to jerk of to her. Hooray!
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>>564591961
I think it's like a guarenteed drop if you shoot down the drone flying around the corpse right?
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>>564595929
No, that's Colonist DNA, I mean the card you need to get to Compiler that can spawn randomly in vaults. (Confusing as fuck naming convention)
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Is there a list of all available barters?
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>>564573308
I would just spam it in fills honestly, makes that last section a lot easier since rooks will spawn in and anyone on your team can get the kill for you
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>>564599138
There’s genuinely not enough people that give a shit to make any kind of centralized info database about this game, it’s sad. No one’s even bothered to list down all the different faction contracts
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>>564596848
And to think they initially wanted to stack more RNG on top of that with the subroutines
Vaults 1 and 2 spawn them but it doesn’t seem to be a particularly high chance.
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>>564530760
>Tarkov, yes you can get a lucky in between the eyes one tap kill
Thats not luck anon, that's skill. This is something you can consistently preform, it has nothing to do with RNG. It's consistent enough that it forces people to play slow and do obnoxious shit that was never intended for a 'milsim light' kind of experience.

>Tarkov has no reset
It did for the last 10 years. In the past every with every wipe we would see the player population spike during at the start of a fresh wipe, when the game was most enjoyable because most people weren't running around with end game loot. As the days came and players progressed the population would decline due to the gear disparity.

>Tarkov. It is fun on its own
lol, lmao even.

Everything you smooth brains accuse Marathon of is 10x worse in Tarkov. The one thing Tarkov has going for it is the milsim larp aesthetic and game play. You have to be an absolute /k/ gear queer to keep clocking into that game.

>Other extraction shooters didnt lose 80% of their players within two months
Other extraction shooters weren't designed as a team based esport with Tarkov's treadmill.

The big problem with Marathon imo is how easy it is to obtain a purple shield, but also how difficult it can be to obtain a purple shield.

Once you can just buy the purples from the vendor it GG, but until then youre like Sisyphus rolling a bolder up a hill. Nobody wants to be Sisyphus and I dont blame them.

Nobody wants to spend 100 to 200 hours doing the prerequisite farm to indulge in ranked, cryo, and have the fairest chance at pvp.
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>trying to do this fuckass cardio kick priority quest for Seki
>both anomaly and lockdown spawn on other side of map
>figure any better-geared players will be focused on those
>go to Quarantine
>fucking triple-stack purples camping the POI
I can never find a regular cardio kick in freekit marsh either so the one time I load into regular marsh this shit fucking happens. Like WHO THE FUCK camps Quarantine if you're already all purple?
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>>564601658
> Like WHO THE FUCK camps Quarantine
There's a lot of contracts that require people go to Quarantine (NuCal, Seki, MIDA), so it's a popular spot to camp if you just want to PvP and farm kills on people.
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>cod sprint is useful
>boost jets are useful
>shield is somewhat useful
>justice rocket backpack is completely retarded

just make it phara's ult instead of this proc shit. or at least speed up the activation.
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>>564529379
>Why is gold salvage so fucking rare
lol you think this is why people dropped the game? most people dropped the game without ever seeing purple loot
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>>>/v/737547164
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>>564601283
Tarkov has an audience it panders for, the hardcore milsilm enjoyers, and it can live on having the same playercounts as Marathon. The fact that Tarkov is so perfect for its target audience is also why they won't leave their game for Marathon.
Who is Marathon's audience exactly? It's not extraction shooter players.
And no, "it's hard to get purple shit" is not why people quit or didn't bother playing this game at all. People didn't bother because it's shit from the get-go.
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>average player who has been playing since day 1 has a couple golds by this point ideally but not guaranteed
>streamers have hundreds of golds, can blow 400k a weeked on cryo
>streamers are the ones saying the WSTR nerf was bad
>streamers now want more equalizers against them removed like gold ARES
lol its so over
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>>564603386
It's mostly useful for PvE, paired with high rate of fire weapons like machine guns or LMGs it fucking melts UESC.
Most players die too fast to bother with it, but I'm not seeing purple or gold shields often enough to really test that. I wish it worked as a budget stack overflow for WSTR, but two shots isn't enough to activate it.
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>>564604954
>matchmaking tweaks
>streamer starts post with “I love competition and have no problem fighting people at my skill level”
>writes an essay about how being forced to play against the rest of the top 1% ruins the game and makes them cry
Subhumans
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>>564604751
>Who is Marathon's audience exactly? It's not extraction shooter players.
It's those who don't mind goofy, play-doh fused with Fortnite graphics, and hardcore camping.
I hated the visuals at first, called the game dogshit, then played a couple of matches, and fell in love.
Gameplay(brutal sex assault) >> story >>>>visuals

Sposored Dire Marsh right now is played buy grown men(around 30yo). I'm 23, I ask them, wanna call this exfil close by, and camp it?
99% of the time they say hell yea.
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>>564604751
>Tarkov has an audience it panders for
Cheaters, retards, and third world farmers in the RMT business.

>the hardcore milsilm enjoyers
Tarkov isnt a hardcore milsim, its just another arcade shooter that skin walks as one.

>and it can live on having the same playercounts as Marathon
It helps that you have people who will continuously repurchase the game from cheat bans and you have people who are willing to spend hundreds of dollars for slight advantages.

> The fact that Tarkov is so perfect for its target audience is also why they won't leave their game for Marathon.
I unironically agree with this, but for entirely different reasons.

>And no, "it's hard to get purple shit" is not why people quit or didn't bother playing this game at all.
People quit because its hard to compete. It's hard to find a team, its hard to aquire loot, its hard to learn the game, and its hard to improve. Gear scarcity is just one barriers to entry.

>People didn't bother because it's shit from the get-go
1.2 million copies sold.
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I hate this fucking game so much its unreal. Wasted perfectly good art direction on this trash.
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>>564606709
>1.2 million copies sold
Unironically, official citation required. There are no official numbers from Bungie/Sony and there won't be until May 13.
Also we get it, you don't like Tarkov, but your extremely biased response is a bit too on the nose
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I be sitting with old ass uncs,
Camping on the roof,
Wearing comfy trunks,
Raping every goof

Watch out, there's some sweats,
No problem,
The bully melts
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>>564605717
the rocket pods make guarded extracts no different from any other extract. It's nice being able to delete a purple shield command and his entourage in a few seconds.
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>>564606709
>irrelevant cope
>retarded cope
>faggot cope
at least die gracefully.
>1.2 million copies sold
from one independent analyst. There have been 0 official confirmations for this. But even IF it sold 1.2 million, this game had a budget of 250 million + 3.6 billion from Sony acquiring Bungie, so that doesn't really cut it.
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>>564606898
Even if you’re not destroyer single a grenade will clear out most of the bots and any automatic weapon with a green or better extended mag can delete a commander in a couple seconds
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>>564606846
cope

>you don't like Tarkov
I actually like Tarkov, but the way the community plays that game ruins it. Whales, RMT, campers, cheaters, and BSG's apathy ruined it.

The only thing worse than the Tarkov community are the people who havent played Tarkov but love to compare Marathon to it like they know something.
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>>564606898
yeah all his activated abilities feel extremely PVE focused. one nice part about the ult is that it DOES highlight enemies which is cool in the jungle bits of marsh
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>>564607072
So then instant with a destroyer throwing a grenade.
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>>564607198
>cope
The best version of tarkov is SPT, I'm sorry you bought into your jakey video a bit too hard but the people the really care about the main pvp game are those obsessed with streamers. Also it's been discussed to death but tarkov is a game for gun autists, I'm not sure if you're that autist who spiraled last night about not all guns being "good" but that's not the point. The sheer number of weapons, configurations, attachments, ammo options, this is all unmatched in any other game on the market and if you obsess over this shit in real life then tarkov is THE perfect sandbox for you
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>>564607427
>single player shitter opinions
Every fucking time, its always the talentless casual who doesnt like marathon because its pvp focused.
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>>564607574
I was talking about tarkov, are you sure you're replying to the correct post?
>that autist who spiraled
guess we found out lmao
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>>564607756
>I was talking about tarkov
No anon, i am playing tarkov. Youre playing a single player slop power fantasy called SPT tarkov.
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I like to evaluate a dev teams competence by how radical the balance changes they make are.
I remember a couple years ago reading about some raid in WoW that came out and it didn’t take long for blizzard to make some big changes, shit like damage of certain boss attacks being changed by up to 75%, area of effect changed by 35% that sort of thing. Imagine getting your job 75% wrong lmao. By contrast when I played FF14 you would see a patch a few weeks after a raid launched that included a couple tweaks to the tune of about 1~2%
Guys at blizzard were just throwing shit at the wall, seeing what sticks while rubes play test it and then they take another shot in the dark, embarrassing.
Anyway the fact I haven’t seen a single team run injector since the nerf, and that the WSTR went from demolishing purple shields to not being able to reliably down a green shield unless you actually barrel stuff, bodes poorly
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>only my experience is the correct one
Let's cool off a bit lil bro and stop the spiral. Let the thread return to relevant conversation
>inb4 c-c-c-concession accepted
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>>564607334
that is nice, man they really nerfed the shit of the UESC after those first couple days
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>>564608102
>Let the thread return to relevant conversation

Chartposting
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>>564608129
Yeah... I wish they would bring them back, but the game is moving toward a more casual direction. Might be too little too late though.
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>>564608215
*posts arm, cat, and vide game*
Here's your thread, bro
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20,200 present daily peak, how did MarathonGODS recover from sub 20k?
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We now come to the weekend bump before the new week rape. I enjoy this everytime it happens because the false hope makes the despair even sweeter.
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Maps have been eerily empty, even Cryo. We wipe a team and then not a single sign of other players for the rest of the run.
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Safe pocket bros... When can we hide stuff up our ass, like the quirky A** *****s players?
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>>564608437
Game is barebones. Not much to talk about.
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>>564609381
Serious question, do players do that in other games? If I can get the jump on someone in Tarkov/ABI and they know it, will they just kill themselves to leave rather than at least try to fight? It feels like this guy is living in some insane fantasy that literally no one will partake in
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>>564609389
>Not much to talk about.
We can talk about getting better at close quarters, mid range, and long range fights...
I started throwing grenades in front of me, then jumping up and down, people think I took damage, come over, and get jizzed on
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>>564609346
same for me, I ran a Dire sponsored and my team ran around and didn't encounter any other players, very creepy
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>>564599936
It's crazy that whenever you search anything the wiki that comes as the first result is all placeholder text still
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>>564609516
>If I can get the jump on someone in Tarkov/ABI and they know it, will they just kill themselves to leave rather than at least try to fight?
In Arc they do, 100%. I have it recorded multiple times.
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>>564609729
I guess that's fair, arc is a special animal though the community in that game is fucking weird
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>>564609720
Downright depressing
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>>564609381
This makes no sense. Why wouldn't you try your luck at extracting if you're content with just leaving with your safe pouch shit? No one does this.
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>>564610047
>Why wouldn't you try your luck at extracting
Because you don't like getting nervous. Someone doesn't say hi, don't shoot, you just press leave game. And keep the item.
Some Arc faggots do this, don't make me stick the flash drive into the Ps5 and copy clips...
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>>564609602
I load in, then run off the map and insta-kill myself.
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>>564609381
>not so many players left to stalk
She's right you know....
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>>564610047
In arc it makes sense to do it when the maps are so fucking big. For example there’s mushrooms that you need to upgrade something which outside one guaranteed spawn are weirdly rare. So if you go to that guaranteed spawn it’s pretty common to see the mushrooms gone and a dead body nearby will a completely empty inventory (free kits don’t get a safe pocket)
I think that would be less of an issue with marathon, could even bar prestige items from being safe pocketed
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I don't think a couple spergs on arc raiders running from a fight (which most people here and on reddit don't even consider an actual extraction shooter) is a valid argument against a safe pouch. Especially when the game is absolutely hemorrhaging players and has no new players to replenish the population
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>>564610529
>>564610374
Seems like an easy issue to solve, if it's truly as prevalent as you imply. Just make it so that you will still lose safe pouch contents if you leave manually or force close.
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>>564610593
Safe pouch won't help cause you can't put any players in it.
Bungie just plain bet on the wrong horse (genre).
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>>564610593
I think for the average player all it does is allow them to relax a little bit and play out of the rest of the match with a little more confidence that even if they eat shit it wasn’t all for nothing
It also encourages coming in with a real kit if you don’t give free kits safe pockets
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>>564610742
The genre COULD be good if it didn't have pvp
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>>564610742
Oh yeah 100%, but it would help for those that purchased the game and left because they got discouraged and couldn't make progress. It would give them a legit reason to return and actually push forward
>>564610796
Yep, this is why I think it should be added. Don't really see a valid argument against it apart from autists trying to gatekeep their hardcore experience
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>>564609381
>safe pouch enables quitting a match when you find one specific item
But I'm already doing that? Because I don't want to lose one specific item I really need?
Oh wait, this retard means literally quitting the match and not exfiling, what a fucking moron.
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>>564610459
Powerful
>>564610520
It's ok, I'll just stalk (You)
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>>564610725
that would be a pretty easy solution on paper, could also just tie safe pocket size to backpack tier, if someone really wants to abandon their kit and purple bag for a stack of 2 biolens that’s alright, I don’t think many people at all would do it
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>>564609381
>>564609807
>>564610047
>>564610725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPQSu6lrEjg
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>Hey Raider, don't shoot, I have nothing you can loot
>Good stuff stuck where the sun don't shine
They really like joking about sticking things up their ass...
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>Arc Raiders is not a REAL extraction shooter
>Oh but Marathon can't do this thing because otherwise the REAL extraction shooter players currently playing Marathon will start to act like Arc Raiders players
Can't have it both ways Marasissies
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>>564609516
It's *extremely* rare you end up with a single item that's worth more than your entire loadout and inventory otherwise this guy is blowing smoke
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>>564611543
Marathon can't add wall running implants, because the extraction players will start playing like Titanfall players.
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>>564611693
Marathon can't add a chess board because players will start asking wtf is en passant
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Arc PvE(!) players are gonna suck my dick 24/7 when the new map is out, on the 28th.
I have 2 accounts ready to reverse boost, on Ps5 and Xbox.
Watch how many rat reports reddit's gonna have.

Ku ku ku
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I thought this rise schizo was funny for a bit but he's kind of grating now and also seems to make up 70% of the posts in this dead general
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>>564611223
careful now, thats sounds dangerously close to something A** ******* does, the subred- i mean the general wont like it
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>>564612220
He's making most of the game he purchased, anon.
Not like there is much else to do/talk about.
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>>564611543
>>Arc Raiders is a REAL extraction shooter
>Uhm why are you killing me?
>Why don't you ask me for something?

https://streamable.com/tows0k
https://streamable.com/tows0k
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Care bare, safe PvE lobbies only.
I'll ambush hundreds on the new map.
First, I will make them feel safe.
Then, I will make them doubt that they are in PvE lobbies.
Because I'll kill them.
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Now that this is an *** ******* general, what is the best skin to use to make people think I'm friendly? I already know about approaching them with a guitar to lower their guard
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>>564609516
Don't know about Tarkov, but in Arc it's not about avoiding fights, it's just about efficiency. When you're farming blueprints you're going in naked and literally only looking for one item, so once you pocket it exfilling is a waste of time when you can just suicide and get into another match faster. This wouldn't be as much of an issue in Marathon because there's way more loot that's relevant to progression, although I'm sure some people would do it anyway.
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damn I love exfil camping on dire marsh
demolition hmg + thermal is fucking hilarious

there still are some bad players in lvl 60-ish solo Q (I am one), but their proportion is dwindling, many demons now.
enjoy it while it lasts anons
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>>564613580
It's weird how much people go out of their way to avoid playing a game they paid for. I guess it's the drive to make number go up (quest/collection completion) and tiktok/shorts completely ruining natural dopamine delivery, actually pretty fucking sad we've reached this point.
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>>564613695
Haven't played the last two days cause everything is becoming sweaty.
Not making much progress with factions either. Knowing it will all reset isn't helping. I may be done with the game.
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>>564613497
>what is the best skin to use to make people think I'm friendly?
Any skin that does not cover your face. No gangsta mask.
And walk around like a retard, don't say "Hi, I'm friendly", say something like "Hey how's it going, I have fruit for my chicken haha".
Don't start the "Are you friendly?" convo, straight up pretend to be a clueless retard.
>"How's it going raider, I have food for the chicken, hooray!"
Then sneak up and kill him. He'll be questioning why the fuck he's in "PvP rat lobbies".
He'll chimpout.
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Vandal is so fucking ugly in-game compared to the cinematics, it's actually upsetting
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I've resorted to watching catgirl vtubers on twitch play this game.
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>>564614051
Please understand. Bungie.
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>>564614113
>girl
>vtubers
pick one and only one
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>>564611693
God i wish vandal's ult was wall running.
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>>564614321
It's more believable than this game's survivability.
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If SBMM gets added, I'll hook up my shell to a Cronus, with a script, so it keeps going into matches, running, jumping and dying, to lower my SBMM rank, while I sleep.
My Arc characters on Xbox and Ps5 are running and dying, without dealing damage, as we speak. Both ready for PvE, protected lobbies.
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>>564614362
>God i wish vandal's ult was wall running.

Play Titanfall 2, you actually get a good game.
Not Apex though, that game is shit and killed Titanfall.
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Any type of matchmaking, SBMM, ABMM, EOMM. I buy scripts($20 typically) and reverse boosting the fuck out of it.
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>>564614532
>Play Titanfall 2, you actually get a good game.
But I did anon, thats why i miss it.

>Not Apex though, that game is shit and killed Titanfall.
I've been thinking about trying it due to all the "hur dur marathon is bad apex" comments.
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>>564609346
Didn't you see Zeigler's post? They're letting lobbies of 2 to 4 people through. They think the threats of there being other players is tension enough. Who knows? You could be alone. Or not.
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up the ttk and nerf the aim assist/bullet magnetism shit and I'll actually play this game in its current barebones state
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>>564614649
>I've been thinking about trying it due to all the "hur dur marathon is bad apex" comments.

Yeah and Apex is an awful variant of Titanfall.
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>>564614650
source?
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>>564614665
>bullet magnetism
Meme, I jump over, and slide between bullets at close range, easy.
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I wish A** wasn't a clunky, janky indie game, so it would actually be fun to gape the care bears.
Marathon is so refined, perfection.
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>>564615125
I wish Marathon wasn't an extraction shooter
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>>564614532
i love how titanfall 2 is the new totem game for 'please take me seriously im a hardcore gamer!' types. like dude, EVERYONE played titanfall. kids talked about it at lunch in school, it wasnt some fringe weirdo game like dirty bomb.
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>>564615491
honestly i get what you mean it feels really good
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>>564614797
Twat her. I don't save twhits.

They're doing it to combat load times for lobbies. They're firing with minimum thresholds now to mask the zombie player base.
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>>564615854
they just act like that because it was cod but for kids who were slightly more into vidya and didn't just play cod and madden
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>>564615854
The point is that everyone wants Titanfall 3 so they have a new game of equal quality, but they'll never get it since Apex killed any chances.
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>>564616004
Latestage Capitalism was such a huge mistake.
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>>564609381
Why not just annul the safe pocket when quitting a match? This is the easiest to fix exploit ever.
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This general is about anything but Marathon
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>>564615854
I never heard of Titanfall until titanfall 2 was on sale for like a dollar. Great game though, 4 hours of pure single player kino.
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>>564616239
I've tried for a solid month to stimulate actual mara discussion. I have given up like I have on my hopes of facing the compiler. Shit game, rest in piss.
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>>564616335
guy is just pissed because a game that old is still better than most shit released these days
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Things to talk about in this general:

>ARC Raiders
>Apex Legends
>Titanfall 2
>Halo
>Destiny
>Sony
>Rape statistics

What else?
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>>564615930
i looked at his twitter and he's said nothing about this so i think you lied to me and that makes me sad :(
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>>564616396
You should be mad too. The game industry is propped up by savants / auteurs like Kojima and Miyazaki. Everyone else severely over promises and under delivers.
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>>564616583
trannies
mutt politics
tarkov
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>>564616663
I'm not lying, bitch. See for your god damn self how dead raids are.
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>>564616583
I was dating this woman who wouldn't let me play with her tits, ever (in fact she kept her bra on at all times) but would gladly do anal without lube
weird
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>>564616848
>trannies
>mutt politics


covered under rape statistics
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>>564616896
Don't walk, RUN away from her.
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>>564616883
yes i've been in enough nearly-empty matches to know something's up, i'm just saying that ziegler hasn't confirmed it anywhere
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>>564614321
I seriously don't understand why normie faggots think it's entirely absurd that women would ever want attention online and that it's entirely impossible they'd sport anime avatars for it.
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I've heard literally zero people mention that Arthur Morgan voices some codex logs, has nobody even listened to them?
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>>564617345
The people that care about that shit were getting farmed so they quit
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>>564617445
Good

Fuck lorefags
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>>564609381
Just make DCONs send stuff to your vault, 1 use per run. Another place for people to camp, dispersing people away from the map center.
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>>564617345
I have a bad memory for names. Or maybe I haven't found any of items for his lines.
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>>564617818
>Fuck lorefags
You want this game to die or something?
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>>564615854
>it wasnt some fringe weirdo game like dirty bomb.
That game was ass.
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>>564617345
No one cares about the lore.

No one wants to talk about the wierd bug theme that the game has either.
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>>564619174
it's already dead
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>>564619860
Deepest lore
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I've just exfilled 5/8 runs in cryo
>fill queue
>new team mates every time
>mostly blue loadout every time
Cryo is so much less aids bros, the WSTR change has made things so much more bearable. Got my first compiler trace to cap off the night too
>>564617345
Unlike most people I do care about the lore, but every time I try to post about it everyone here just tells you to fuck off or calls you a poser because liking things is cringe I guess
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>>564619929
>Unlike most people I do care about the lore, but every time I try to post about it everyone here just tells you to fuck off or calls you a poser because liking things is cringe I guess

Thoughts on the bug theme?
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>>564619469
>wierd bug theme
Like what? I've only really noticed sekiguchi silkworms, which is obviously a symbol of rebirth.
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>>564620082
>bug theme
what are you referring to exactly?
If you're talking about the moths and silkworms they're just how the shells are made. The ticks are less so animals or insects and more so just a biological defense mechanism from the growth the ticks originate from, and the Pfhor are also very insectile looking so some stuff could be in reference to that but you're gonna have to be a bit more specific.
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>>564617345
oh so actors for the logs that no one will read because the game barely immerses anyone into its world is where the 250 million went into
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>>564616239
The fuck is there to talk about? This game released with the bare minimum content and it's already exhausted
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>>564620612
Nona is a silk worm and Arachne is a spider.

Both are bugs that spin a thread.

Nona is seen as the life giver and Arachne is seen as the life taker. Nona doesn't want the runner shells to die, but Arachne insists that its a necessary step for humanity to transcend.

Silk worms become silk moths, in the cut scene we see a silk moth nibbling on something. It's a rarity that silk worms become silk moths, they are destined to die in their cocoon. There is the one lucky moth though.

I think there is a theme of evolution here that is also seen in the OG marathon games.

Consider the loading icon for marathon, pic related.

Are we to become the moth? Consider that spiders spin webs to catch insects like moths for sustenance. Arachne is also depicted as a sort of puppet master, controlling runners with his threads.
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Rape is infinite content.
Rape is the future of live service "forever games".
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Why do some UESC have occult like symbols below them when spawning in?
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>>564623914
I have not noticed this but will try and be on the look out.
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>>564623992
It might just be in cryo, but I've definitely seen it there on maybe just certain types
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>>564622796
I thought the third one was the compiler.
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>>564622796
You might be right but I assumed that was pupa stage.
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>>564622796
Interesting take on Charter. That moth/spider idea seems to me more like a metaphor for players preying on each other, i.e. play, acquire skill/loot, get killed by another player, repeat.

It's unfortunate that he has so little dialogue compared to the other faction reps to know if there's something bigger there. Unless it's all locked behind the codex. That's one of the problems with the lore, you've got to play and find a ton of shit to get all the details.
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>>564622796
I wouldn't say that's really a "bug" theme, more so just extra motifs of rebirth, mortality and evolution. Bugs are typically seen as representations of the circle of life since on a macro level they're natures recyclers, but they're just a small part of the full picture.

Being a runner is inherently a cycle of death and rebirth. Shells are made from silkworms threading strings they eat and lay over and over again, eternally hungry and with soft programming that guides their actions. Our debt builds everytime we need a new shell, keeping us trapped in a constant lock of wage slaving and merc work. We cannibalise other runners, robbing from them to feed our own actions, literally siphoning energy from their body to empower ourselves at times. The tagline of the game is that escape will make us god, which could be taken literally (we escape with good loot = we become more powerful = we "become god") but I personally think it's more so meant to be taken in the original sense when Durandal first said it, which is that he wanted to escape the confines of the Marathon itself so he could gain the power to avoid death, to literally "become god" by virtue of evolving past his prime function and ultimate obstacle as a sentient entity. Collecting his sub routines confirms that in us Durandal see's something greater; beyond just disposable mercenaries.

If we're going by your analogy, we've essentially already become "the moth". We're just learning to spread our wings now. Every faction is inadvertedly (MIDA, CyAc) or intentionally (Sekiguchi, Arachne) helping to accelerate that

But yeah some corrections
>the loading icon is a compiler unfurling itself to attack
>the moth in the loading screen is just showing the process of how the silkworms are actually born; the moth is feed a special material that essentially alters the egg laying process
There's a very heavy emphasis on ascendance in all Marathon games, but yeah that's the main idea, not just bugs or whatever.
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>>564624461
The 'runner' appears more like a compiler than the 'moth'.

The 'moth' image appears in your CyberAcme software program as well. Partial screen shot from the Cryo Chamber cutschene, pic related.
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I cut the trannycord from the OP a few threads ago and no one said anything so maybe the game really is dying
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>>564625234
>That moth/spider idea seems to me more like a metaphor for players preying on each other, i.e. play, acquire skill/loot, get killed by another player, repeat.
With the marionette puppet imagery I think the cycle of violence is implied to be, in part, perpetuated by Arachne.


>It's unfortunate that he has so little dialogue compared to the other faction reps to know if there's something bigger there.
Very true. I think they will give us more later, but don't want to show their cards just yet. Have you noticed that Arachne has an obsession with items you'd associate with children? Toys and books, those are his loot items.
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>>564601658
Someone who is out to keep YOU from doing your contracts. They give no fuck about your gear. Or doing their own. That's endgame as designed.
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>>564625425
But that cutscene is literally Durandal hitting us up and telling us to come. The "CyAc" contracts we recieve from Cryo for example aren't actually from ONI, but from Durandal. Feels safe to just chalk it up as him subliminally informing us of the Compiler itself, since ONI certainly aren't interested in us evolving past our base function, and there'd be no way for Durandal to learn about the actual process of Synthsilk weaving since it was devloped when he was out of the system, so it's not like his subroutines would be able to divine the imagery as being evocative or related to us in anyway
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>>564625274
I think you have some surface level takes, but I do agree with what your saying.

Going back to the moths, silk worms are destined to die inside their cacoon. I think the runner shell is that cacoon and it is our destiny to die in it over and over again until we finally break free and become the 'moth' as it were.


>Durandal first said it, which is that he wanted to escape the confines of the Marathon itself so he could gain the power to avoid death

You could almost say Durandal is like a mythical sword stuck in a stone and the player needs to be the one to pull him out.

pic related.
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>>564609346
Change in mapmaking, and also, map hacks means some people are playing PVE and just avoiding you.

>>564609516
Yes.

>>564609720
>>564609846
>>564599936
The "content generation" shills that they hired for this game don't actually play the game enough or give a fuck about the game to fill in basic shit like that.
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>>564625606
if chartposters are to be believed, we'll barely have any players left in a couple weeks. it doesn't help that bungie are addicted to seasonal patches which means no content or meaningful changes in may to slow the bleeding before the big* update in june, lol

>>564609346
ziegler or the main dev twitter's spoken about matchmaking and vaguely alluded to the idea that they'll prioritize spawning players into empty lobbies before they give them laggy matches or make them sit in queue for hours. I don't know if that's true but that'd explain the ghost town.
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>>564614308
>>564614051
I guarantee they had a bunch of meetings where diversity non binaries worked their lack of asses off to make her look as unappealing to heterosexual men as they could.
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>>564626407
>think you have some surface level takes
>>"Bro...What if WE are the moth"
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>>564601283
>As the days came and players progressed the population would decline due to the gear disparity.
Guess what, even with no wipe, Tarkov still has not lost 80% of its players even as you say player pop declines because of the gear imbalance. Which was my point. Other extraction shooters, such as Dark and Darker did not lose 80% of their players within two months despite that game being nothing but gear checks for endgame gear. Again, other extraction shooters of variable difficulty did not lose 80% of their players within two months. Because people enjoyed the games and liked them. People did not like Marathon not because of difficulty or whatever, but because it is not that enjoyable on a basic gameplay level. Which is why so many streamers dropped it, even ones that were doing well because the game is not that enjoyable.
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>>564626958
What's it even imply? The shells are gonna get upgraded? Yeah no poo!
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>>564610725
>Seems like an easy issue to solve, if it's truly as prevalent as you imply. Just make it so that you will still lose safe pouch contents if you leave manually or force close.
>>564616212
>Why not just annul the safe pocket when quitting a match? This is the easiest to fix exploit ever.
Safe pocket item, stand up, walk away. Same shit.
>>564618159
>Just make DCONs send stuff to your vault, 1 use per run
Why not just fight for it and exfil, oh right, only me and like 1 other person here can do that
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>>564619469
>wierd bug theme
This is pretty common in biopunk settings, actually.
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>>564625274
Lust provoking image
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>>564627154
NTA but I think it's more an evolution of the mind type shit. Canonically speaking, after dying so many times our Runners would likely be some of the most skilled combatants in existence. Collectively over the course of hundreds of synthetic bodies we have thousands of hours of combat data that's essentially imprinted into our brain, which I could definitely see Durandal being interested in as a defensive measure to defend against any kind of threat, since his subroutines still likely think the Pfhor are out there trying to kick our shit in

We're an army of self replicating, self learning, malleable soldiers. Not as capable as a Battleroid, but unique in our own right. Pretty useful thing to have
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>>564627305
you're just quoting people you've barely said anything
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>>564622796
>Consider the loading icon for marathon, pic related.
It's obviously worm -> cocoon/compiler -> moth/also compiler, but angry.
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>>564627774
>we have thousands of hours of combat data that's essentially imprinted into our brain
How many pf us get metally ill, tired, and chimpout. The shell has to feel like your real body, yea? Does it feel less pain, and can you lose your mind?
A lot of minds are weak and stupid.
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>>564627830
Safe pocket will keep the item when I quit the game, just leave it till my character dies. It's the same as pressing exit match. It's a guaranteed item.
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>>564628084
The shells aren't even that impressive. In the launch trailer you can see the Destroyer have a freakout over having his arm sliced clean off. There's a story of a farmer having both his arms sliced off and walking to a phone and calling the ambulance with iirc a pencil in his mouth all by himself, a pseudo-supersoldier should do better
>>564628361
I love Laura, she's the only foid that it doesn't pain me to listen to.
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>>564626958
>>564627154
>>564627774
>>564628084
I dont think the moth represents us in our peak runner form. We don't have a body, were just a conscious, whats the next step for a disembodied human in terms of evolution?

>escape will make me god

Escaping the cocoon or runner shell will make us god maybe, but what does that even look like.

Becoming the moth means becoming food for Arachne. Why and how would an AI go about consuming a god?
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>>564623992
okay I've definitely seen it on the skinny commanders in cryo
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>>564628461
>she's the only foid that it doesn't pain me to listen to.
Not gaming related, but I also Sabine Hossenfelder.
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>>564628461
>Destroyer have a freakout over having his arm sliced clean off.
Rook chimps out when someone grabs his arm.
Holy shit most runners are pussies
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>>564628084
>can you lose your mind
100%. There’s several codex entries stating so, and the introduction run to the game states we suffered memory loss. Mental afflictions and hiccups are common, since our brain has been turned into code, so glitches and fuck ups are only natural everytime we come back. Price you pay for immortality
>>564628461
I’m pretty sure that’s mainly to point out that the protag squad was very much a newbie squad; even despite their hard work they still weren’t ready. Also it’s probably normal to freak out at the sight of an alien in fairness
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>>564627984
Grabbing that waist
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>>564628731
>since our brain has been turned into code
>turned into
No one tell him.
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>>564627984
I love how the put all of the effort into the shape of the ass and thighs and just phoned in the rest of the figure, based coomer
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>>564628842
and doing what anon?
>>564628946
I can respect the vision
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>>564627008
>Guess what, even with no wipe, Tarkov still has not lost 80% of its players
Anon it loses the majority of its players every time they do a wipe. People come in, they have fun for a week and then they fucking bail once sweats unlock some gear.

Same story in Marathon.

Pic related.
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>>564629161
NTA Tarkov was also bought mostly for its own launcher for like 10 years desu. Also Battlestate Games has less than 1/10th as many employees as Bungie and they can afford a low player count.
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>I have so much combat experience
>Death is nothing to me
>0:51
>AAAIIIEEE NONA MOMMY SAVE MEEEH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nertr9Lt9Ic
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>>564629147
Pulling you towards me while being juiced with cardio kick
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>>564629161
>Anon it loses the majority of its players every time they do a wipe. People come in, they have fun for a week and then they fucking bail once sweats unlock some gear.
Guess, what that is still not losing 80% of their player base even half a year after launch. In fact, ratio wise, Tarkov is doing better than Marathon despite it being out for much longer. Marathon has lost more players in its two month period than Tarkov over its six month period. It gets worse when you compare both of its two month period. It is not the same story at all.
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>>564629391
>Steam player data and trends couldnt possibly be reflective of what's happening with players who use the battle state launcher
If you go into the tarkov general and ask what the queue times and population trends were like surrounding past wipes they are going to tell you the same as I have. Players show up, play for a week, bail once the hobo fights become a thing of the past.
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>>564630352
>Guess, what that is still not losing 80% of
No one made this claim, what the fuck are you talking about?

>Tarkov is doing better than Marathon despite it being out for much longer. Marathon has lost more players in its two month period than Tarkov over its six month period. It gets worse when you compare both of its two month period. It is not the same story at all.

And it would be doing even better if the mid to late game was as good as early wipe, same as Marathon.
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>>564550196
>Tfw shizomizo anon pulls off the reversed dark knight joker

Youre the first entertaining thing i witnessed in this whole pile of shit called marathon.
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>do nothing but combat on the game
>start playing squads
>teammates fall
>don't leave
>then go wtf he killed them all
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>>564630872
>No one made this claim, what the fuck are you talking about?
The first post is about how Marathon is fine because of other games. No it is not fine when other games did not lose 80% of their players in the first two months. Several extraction shooters did not lose most of their players within two months, indicating a far more fundamental problem with Marathon outside of just players leaving because of the late season and wipes.
>same as Marathon.
Not the same, Marathon is doing far worse than basic progression issues in an extraction shooter.
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>>564528380
Haven't played in weeks. Is the game finally not dog ass to play unless you're in a 3 stack?
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>>564630879
Man, why are you calling it shit. It's immersive alone, and explosive in teams.
Did you want a rich single player mode? Or relaxing PvE looter grinds?
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>>564631312
Marathon is doing worse, because it looks weird, like play-doh mixed with Fortnite. It looks worse on phones.
If I didn't play the game, i wouldn't understand what the fuck I'm seeing on screen. It's colorful porridge, a mess with sparks, with the occasional Roblox guy bleeding blue.
Game doesn't look realistic, or fully cartoony, who the fuck is gonna play it, except a portion of spiteful nerds? Who just want to kill you.
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>I actually basedpogged when Durandal hijacked the load in voice line
Man what's wrong with me, I just like the lore in this game.
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>>564631774
Thief hijacked my load in this thread
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>Still no new skin in the store
Bruh I'm tired of the Arachne ones, let me buy something cool
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>>564631774
Speaking of Durandal, what does this image in his cutscene represent?
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>>564609381
lmao Arc Raiders naked blueprint runs to shove one (1) BP up your ass is not indicative of the overall experience of using a safe pocket. Most people don't even know you can do naked runs in this game and it's far harder to succeed at doing so compared to Arc. Arc really poisoned the well on ES discourse huh?
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>>564631312
Literally wtf are you talking about? Link the post or shut the fuck up already.

>Not the same, Marathon is doing far worse than basic progression issues in an extraction shooter.
Every extraction shooter modeled after Tarkovs progression system is going to have the same mid to late game problems. Every game that follows in Tarkovs foot steps and including tarkov, would attract more players if it improved upon this issue. Stop sperging out now, I’m glad you’re Tarkovs greatest champion, but Nikita doesn’t need you running D in the marathon general.
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>>564632406
I don't give fuck, I did upvotes and you's
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>>564632374
Is it a carousel? Round and round you go, but you never really go anywhere?
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Game so barebones, the only micro trans action for today, is the Thief poster on /mg/
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>>564632436
>Literally wtf are you talking about? Link the post or shut the fuck up already.
Literally follow the chain of replies it takes a minute to read>>564530760
and dont stop at that one read it all the way through
>Every extraction shooter modeled after Tarkovs progression system is going to have the same mid to late game problems
Right except not every extraction shooter has lost as much players as Marathon did. That is the point. It is an issue that goes deeper than Tarkov progression issues, it is an issue unique to Marathon itself. Several extraction shooter games did not have such a huge drop off comparable to Marathon in its first two months. So it is not an issue with the progression system but something far greater that is unique to Marathon. People claim its the art style, bad actors on the internet, I am saying it is because the game simply is not that great on a basic gameplay level.
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>>564632374
one thing that stands out to me is that he is off the horse. it's clearly inspired by monumental statues of historical figures but those are always riding horses as a show of power or victory. it's clearly intentional that he's come off the horse but I'm not sure what that represents
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>>564632374
Probably just Durandal having a bit of a lark about how he's named after the legendary blade of Roland so he's leaning into that imagery a bit with the steed and the halo.
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why does time move so fast now? It feels like this game came out a few weeks ago but its been months
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>>564555428
People want a power fantasy that appeals to them for sure. Marathon is constantly reminding you both in and out of game that your canon fodder.
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>>564550196
It’s evolution as intended, you must become master of both worlds and synthesize something new, bravo bungie
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>>564633031
>why does time move so fast now?
It doesn't, you're wasting it by thinking about useless things, instead of enjoying the game.
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>>564633275
>and synthesize something new, bravo bungie
I don't think scaring others into becoming allies is something new. I said I'd break their legs first, not just talk and be friendly.
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>>564629161
I will laugh at you when season 2 arrives and wipes will decimate the playerbase even further.
Most of the people still left are shzoids, in one way or the other.
Niggas with sunk cost fallacy will be able to quit.
Rapists will find each other among themselfs and leave.

Remember my words.
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>>564632898
The person he’s responding to never made that claim dipshit. He constructed a straw man and has been running with it the entire fucking time.
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>>564633840
>Rapists will find each other among themselfs and leave.
It will be a glorious battle royale though.
In solo it's gonna be 8 players at the start, holding angles for 15 minutes, a couple of them slip up and insta die.
The other 4 have to fight for the final exfil.
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Not queuing Cryo until they fix grenades and just delete bubble shield from the game.
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>>564634431
>Not queuing Cryo until they fix grenades
>Fix shotgun, I'm not smart enough to avoid shotgun
>Fix knife, I can't stay out of a knife's 1.5 meter range
>Uhm fix grenades, they explode, and I can't like, uhm, be away from where the grenades will be thrown
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>>564633840
>s2 comes out
>60k people show up and play for a week
>game is back to its regularly scheduled 20k player count
>this retarded anon will some how think this proves him correct despite being repeatedly told this is the trend with wipes in extraction shooters
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Can I truly blame Marathon's design, when most runners are infantile, crybaby faggots.
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>>564634867
Someone throwing 20 grenades down a hallway in 3 seconds is a problem yes. I've killed plenty of knife rushers by just backpedaling while hosing them and I don't see WSTRs anymore.
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>>564634968
>>60k people show up
And become superpower by 2027
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>>564635123
>Someone throwing 20 grenades down a hallway in 3 seconds is a problem yes.
You can't possible stay away from the hallway, until they fuck off? Are they willing to stay the whole match there? If they are, then based
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>>564631325
They have hobo mode...which is teams only. Where you get a free kit but all the loot is complete ass.

>>564616583
That new capcom game. Hiding things in your ass.
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>>564635653
Retard
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>>564634260
>The person he’s responding to never made that claim dipshit.
The claim was that this game losing 80% of its player base was normal because PoE and Diablo did. Counter claim was that other extraction shooters did not lose 80% in their first two months. Yes it is normal for every single game ever made to lose players after launch and slowly settle down. Yes it is normal for extraction shooters to lose players as the season goes on due to its inherent nature. No it is not normal for the game to lose 80% of its players in the first two months after launch when several of its peers did not do so. Losing 80% of players in the first two months is not a normal extraction shooter thing unless the game sucks.
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>>564635256
I don’t understand your nigger babble
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Oooh meltie
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>>564635807
Things nobody said
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>>564634968
Yeah i dont think people will come back for the wipe, thats all.
The grind is unberable as is, no chance a casual will do it twice.
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Got my final melee upgrade from Arachne...
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>>564636504
Grind is the game, you never played PoE or Diablo?
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Looks like /mg/ got solved.
It split into
>schizos who don't care what happens
>believes who think players will return for S2(no new map, just black Dire marsh)
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>>564626917
>>564625606

Descending line connoisseur here. More like a couple of months. And in theory, the descent should slow down, unless it hits the critical point where people won't put up with a 5 min wait for a 3 min assreaming as their laggy asses get practically spawn raped.

The real wild cards are the server wipe, and whatever bungie started 90 days ago. They know it's make or break, and failure means becoming a BOB to Sony's Durandal forever. Sony itself is showing no confidence, and looks like it's putting up Fairgame$ as free to play competition to this game. No comment on the prospects of that one.

They are not guaranteed a tarkof bounce back, and that bounce back is not guaranteed to be enough to fund further dev and servers.

Even then, I think the most likely losing scenario here looks like Anthem.
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Any Vandal butthole pics yet
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I choose to cope and believe NDmarsh will have a radically different feel and more PvE
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>/mg/ is now split into schizos, and believers
That's what I meant.
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They'll pay every streamer to play their game again and when they see S2 is a big nothing-burger they'll drop the game even faster than at launch.
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>>564636841
Don't forget the dude, who really, REALLY likes rape. And the other dude who likes cockblocking extractors.

>>564636760
Difficulty of POE and D2 is PvE. This one is based on the fucks you match with.
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>>564636950
He's a 3d printed shell with nothing down there. Go ask the silkworms to make a cloaca.
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>Outland
>Outland suppressor
>Thermal scope
>Mini Jammer

That's never leaving my vault kek
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>ROOK'ing in perimeter seeing if I can get lucky with people leaving behind goodies in purple locked rooms
>See another rook walking up to a hacked container and looting it
>Disguised but surronded by UESC
>Lightbulb.png
>Shoot him once with the silenced pistol to drop the disguise momentarily
>Ghost Commander nexts to him screams in his face and the Rook starts sprinting away
>Watch the bots rip him to shreds and down him
>walk up to him disguised and finisher him
hehe
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>>564637149
>Don't forget the dude, who really, REALLY likes rape. And the other dude who likes cockblocking extractors.
those are the same dudes
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Today, I WILL spawn at Bio-research
Today, I WILL find a cardio kick
Today, I WILL wipe the lobby
Today, I WILL have enough time left to traverse the whole map
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>>564637407
>-1 player
BASED
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>Today, I will NOT get raped at the Get Raped Factory
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>>564637672
>those are the same dudes
We're not. The raped poster is someone else, he says raped about everything.

I've only said it about exfils. I ignore players who are far and not exfilling. I only want those, wh desire to exfil, because they care.
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Can't get raped if I never queue up
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Grenade spam on cyro is getting annoying, squads are bringing like half a purple bag worth of nades. when you think they're out, they're just getting started.
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>>564637972
Don't listen to the FFtranny, you can win.
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I think they should introduce a special Cryo mode that is only Rooks and narratively takes place after a standard Cryo run where it's basically a UESC death maze. Just completely awash with trip lasers, claymores, UESC death squads that are only Grenadiers, Assaults, Snipers, Commanders and Elites. Has the same loot pool as regular Cryo, all the vaults are opened but Compiler is dead.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7VwkHch7hk
Laura is spitting facts here
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>>564639415
>spitting facts
>speculation
please learn what words mean
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Snuck into Pinwheel. This was real sweet.
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>>564639804
Please watch the video before replying, it makes you look retarded
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>>564639906
Throw that silencer on the volt thrower and thank me later.
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>>564639415
>needing an autistic women to explain to you why a fourth live service title from Sony is going to flop
>especially one that's hyperwoke and centered around robbing the wealthy
goys are so fucking retarded. extremely low iq comments under the video as well, probably asmongold viewers
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They really need to add some sort of salvage bartering system. Make each deal feel like a little scam, but please, give me something to do with these.
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>>564640494
Uh oh Maratroon melty
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>>564640591
Dude 128 poop is like 128 health kits, what they need to do is let me mass barter instead of having to individually hold a button to buy one at at time.
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>>564640494
>centered around robbing the wealthy
uh... based??
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>>564640591
wut? dont they literally have a salvage bartering system for those exact resources? pretty sure those turn into shields and ammo at the respective vendors.
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>>564640494
>sony is fail
>woke
>goys
>low iq
>asmongold rent free
please post more, /mg/ needs you
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>>564639906
Literally just had a rook run on perimeter where I shot a cargo drone and apparently they carry locked room keys? Got into terrace and walked off with a Zeus, HAR and the good volt thrower. Cheeky rook runs where you can slip into places you shouldn’t be able to get to are always the best
>>564637672
Pretty sure they are the same edgelord yeah.
>>564638092
Nah they wouldn’t have given up off of that. They didn’t have anything worthwhile on them anyway
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>>564640591
>these are the people I have to argue with in the thread
no wonder this general feels so fucking retarded sometimes
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>>564640785
>>564640804
>>564641026
I meant salvage-to-salvage bartering.
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>>564638615
You believed in me and it got me over the line, almost got cucked by rats at final exfil but Assassin is busted
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>>564641338
Oh like a trade up system? Might not be a bad idea, would actually incentivize people hitting up POIs for the chaff salvage more. I always see places looted and they leave all that shit behind because it isn't purple or blue.
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>>564641664
Or trade down. Sometimes you have a blue or a purple taking up a lot of space that you can't use, while you need a lot of greens.
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>We’ve rolled out a small update to Sponsored Dire Marsh's Crew Fill: if you’ve got your mic on, we’ll now do our best to match you with other players using voice chat too.
>If you're in the mood to chat, we want to make sure you're able to coordinate with like-minded Runners.
>Let us know how it’s going!
https://x.com/MarathonDevTeam/status/2047733284957008067
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I appreciate Marathon for letting me accomplish my dreams of robbing from my government (wellfare) so that I can enrich corporations (vending machines and gacha)
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>>564642549
this is only going to make the player numbers go down even though its a good change, lmao.
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DING DONG, CONCORD 3.
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>>564642549
>solo players are forced to queue trios if they want to play and not sit on the moth screen
>bungie will do anything except improve solo play
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>>564642549
What about people that can use their ears and use pings? "get fucked lmao"?
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>>564643282
>1.2 million sales
>80k+ peak player count
>two months and going
>hur dur concord 3
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>>564644575
>lack the intelligence to articulate your point
>"it's just like OTHER THING!!"

Humanity is pathetically bad at conversing these days, even though it's never been easier to do so in our modern age.
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I ended up leaving with the enemy team, lmao, and their Destroyer got left behind. I feel a bit bad, but I needed those mats.

>>564642549
Damn.
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>>564645249
>Friends are just enemies waiting to betray you.
Fuck them, you did right by yourself.
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>>564642549
turn your mics on to infiltrate the carebear lobbies
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>>564644575
>1.2 million sales
citation required. please note only official numbers from Sony or Bungie are accepted
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>>564642549
There must be a lot of players on freekit marsh for this to be worth testing. That's a good sign, right?
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>>564644575
>$300M+ budget from a studio that Sony paid $3.6B for that has never profited.
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>>564645249
Vandal is fun, but relatively high skill. I have no idea what to do when I pop Amplify.
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>>564646180
>he doesn’t know what concord actually is, just throws it around to disparage things he doesn’t like
Pathetic and ignorant
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>>564636564
now the game finally begins
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Do you think if SKG will be able to save this game?
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>>564648893
Assuming SKG results in some kind of new law, it'll very likely only apply to games that were released after the law came into effect. So no
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i fucking love self revives and frag grenades! i love every single cryo fight boiling down to who brought more consumables!! why would i want to shoot guns in my first person shooter???
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>>564646180
>>564645125
>>564644575
>>564647829
you all communicate like npcs with looping dialogue
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>>564649808
We like this!
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>>564647829
The thing tards here don't seem to grasp is that nothing will ever reach concord levels again. At minimum, other "concord-likes" have made more than $0 in gross revenue. They may not break even but they made some amount of money period. Concord refunded every copy sold, they made $0 gross, and lost even more on the various licensing agreements. Yes Sony acquired Bungie but that was also for institutional resources that are and have already been spent on other projects. There was actual capital gained from that transaction that Sony is able to leverage for other active projects. Concord was the literal equivalent of stacking a few hundred million in a pile and burning it, nothing will ever be allowed to come close to that again
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>>564649808
The WSTR nerf was a colossal mistake.
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>>564650261
The WSTR itself was a colossal mistake
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Concord is this generations TORtanic and it's equally pathetic.
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>>564650112
I think the only thing to come close to concord is that ET for the atari game
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>>564584228
>This is basic shit in my demented little mental prison if you just paid attention to all these shitposts and spent too much time arguing with 12 year olds
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>>564650571
Again, not actually grasping the differences. TOR was just a normal flop but it was big at the time because it was bioware and star wars, it was a major flop from a major studio so it made headlines but it's still active and generating money over a decade later. Calling TOR equivalent to concord is laughably far off
>>564650693
this anon is closer to the mark and it is the only real comparison in media, but even then there was some gross revenue generated and it was more an issue of extremely poor planning around merchandising and horrible executive assumptions around the actual market for the product.

Concord is a literal lightning-in-a-bottle event that nothing in media will ever come close to. Diluting it's impact on the industry by comparing it to just every-day flops like marathon or highguard is actually doing a disservice and not respecting the scale of the failure that concord was
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>>564651087
I understand the difference in terms of what actually happened, I'm talking about how the gaming community (/v/) in general are responding to it and any other perceived flops.
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>Marathon isn't Concord 3
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>>564651515
I might try gray zone looks kind of comfy
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>>564651759
Gray Zone PvE with the lads is mondo comfy.
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>>564650261
not at fucking all
they need to make overflow mods magazine specific so it can't get them next
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>>564652109
It's shit even with Stack Overflow. You are literally better off using your knife.
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>>564652589
3 shots is enough to kill purple shields so no
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Concord is an idea, a movement, more metaphorical than literal. Calling something a Concord does not mean a 1-to-1 comparison and it being exactly like Concord. It means a shitty game that flopped.
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>>564653679
>It just means a flop
retard
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>>564653890
Shut up you little Concord.
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Some clarifications from an actual businessperson.

The Bungie acquisition is doing fine. Lightfall, the Final Shape, EOF, and Renegades generated significant sales post-acquisitio and the Destiny IP remains primed for success when they decide to go ahead with the much needed Destiny 3. Until then, the plan was always to End-of-Life it, but any announcement would kill all revenue generation, so expect Destiny 3 to be a stealth project.

The goal of Marathon is not merely to sell a live service game, but to serve as a foundational IP. After the success of Fallout and TLOU in crossing over and the resulting profits made from streaming, television, movies, and theme park attractions (Universal Studios), the design of Marathon is to be a franchise that translates well across multiple visual mediums, establishes a following, and then can sell flagship releases every now and then, buoyed by joint media sales.

From the Ozymandias trailer and Cryo Archive music video, I think it is safe to say they accomplished this goal. Current revenues from the 240ish budget are hard to estimate, but 80-100m is not a bad guess for 1.4m copies sold (factoring in deluxe editions, skin purchases, merchandise from Bungie's Store, and other revenue streams). The game is exceptionally well-reviewed and people are going to want to visit it.

My best guess would be, we start to see some single-player set-piece campaign chapters release along with branches into more animated formats.Possibly a series, with the goal being to build a pipeline into the universe, into the game, into micro-transactions and future content.

That, combined with D3, the integration of over 100 Bungie employees into other first-party title production, will make the investment generate a decent ROI, while preventing Bungie's acquisition by another party. Probably worth it.
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>>564655264
Some clarifications from an actual real businessperson.

Marathon flopped.
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How often do contract rerolls reset?
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>>564655264
>spending $3.6 billion on two dying games was actually worth it because i wrote fanfiction about things they could hypothetically do to salvage said dying games
well you're certainly retarded enough to be a real businessman
>>564656153
there's a timer when you hover over the contract iirc it's something like 36 hours but don't quote me
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>>564651515
>marathon isnt concord, but unironically
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>>564640839
>Pretty sure they are the same edgelord yeah.
No, the guy who says raped about everything, is not nearly as good as me.
>>564641530
I could sense you have potential, stand proud.
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>>564649808
grenade spam can be annoying but honestly I've gotten used to it at this point. It's a lot less cringe then the wstr jousting and bubble shielding since usually when you bump into a team after 15 mins they're out of nades or have their backpacks stuffed with loot so you can just have a normal fight. You mostly just use the nades so you can murderfuck the first team you bump into

cryo this week has probably been the least cancerous it's been for a while.
>>564650261
The only bad thing about the WSTR now is that it's fucking useless against bots unless you have overflow stack. The nerf for players was absolutely a good change
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>>564638351
Rape sunc@s
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>>564646252
Not bad.
But you're walking out of the bottom floor of the building. That exfil is worthless, unless you approach from high ground. Next time, shoot from the roof, and only throw the smoke mid fight, when you hurt them. Then keep shooting the smoke, and zip inside.
Still, you didn't screw up, I've seen level 150's do worse.
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>>564657024
It always should have been a bad choice against bots honestly
The ammo isn't space efficient enough to be useful for the chaff compared to other weapons and even though the DPS is good you're better off using anything with better headshot multipliers or big magazines to bring down wardens and commanders
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It's over.
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This game needs a casual side mode to just relax for a bit, because it was stressful as fuck getting drawn into unintentional firefights when I'm just trying to do Priority NuCal quests. At least I survived and got purple gear from any would-be raper, but jesus fuck.
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>>564657996
It would be insanely nice if we could actually just launch into empty maps, or if there was a training grounds, or anything that lets you mess about without having to go into an actual match with things on the line
Even a basic MP arena mode with default weapons or something would help to have something other to do than the sweaty extraction experience, even if it isn't substantial
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>>564649808
Grenade spam, you say?
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>>564657996
>This game needs a casual side mode to just relax for a bit
That's Rook.
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how to find 3 stacks for cryo? discord servers? here is a lust provoking image

>>564657996
>This game needs a casual side mode to just relax for a bit
for me this is rook zero to hero runs
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>>564657996
>This game needs a casual side mode to just relax for a bit
You can join me on sponsored Marsh, I'll kill a team alone on any are you want
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>>564658432
nta but while you start with nothing to lose as Rook you do, you do in fact lose time if you're not thinking and trying to get good stuff, it's still "tense"
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>>564655264
this anon's a fraud who doesn't know a EBTIA from a rectally inserted WSTR.
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>>564657996
That's what cryo should have been. A pve romp through the marathon where you work with other runner teams to kill a raid boss.

The game needs a pressure relief valve to let off steam from the weekly grind. Instead they just added a rape factory to the end of your week.
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>>564650968
Hey, if a Famitsu thread is too much for you anon, that's a you problem.
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A silenced CE Tactical is actually pretty nice for bots.

>>564656449
Thanks
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>>564659186
>too much
I'm just not stupid enough to take console warriors seriously because I'm not underaged
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>Marvel Rivals added a new PvE mode
its over
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>sit in a corner of the map with my fragile key templates until I can safely exfil when it's empty
>sit in a corner near the key room with my key until I can safely open it when it's empty
H I G H R I S K, H I G H R E W A R D
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>All feedback from the alpha and betas was to add PVE
>Ignored
>Game fails
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>>564659776
>>564660549
ok but they can't add pve because that's not hArDcOrE
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>>564660697
Bungie needs to be raped with this obsession with being "HARDCORE" alongside having "WATCHABLE CONTENT". They're better known now for making something like Halo which was casual enough for the dudebro audience.
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>In my 80 hours of playtime, never hear anyone use a mic
>Get an idea
>Check settings
>Voice chat is turned off
Does turning off voice chat also prevent me from hearing others speak?
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>DOOD WE'RE SO HARDCORE WE WON'T DO A PVE MODE OR ADD SAFE POCKETS LIKE TARKOV
>Tarkov got it's second wind with SPT and has had safe pockets 5ever
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>>564661078
>Does turning off voice chat also prevent me from hearing others speak?
The whole feature is disabled. You mute your own mic icon, bottom right corner, when you don't want others to hear you. It's difficult not to call you the r-slur
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>>564646252
That door is bad for you. You shouldn't use it to exit.
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PSA if you want a slightly better viewing angle when peaking through door windows take out your knife you stand up very slightly.
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>>564661704
>peaking through door windows
To give your exact location away, for free? If you need to peek the door, straight up open it, and throw anything inside, to provoke movement. One footstep will tell you if someone's inside of the room.
When you just peek, you don't squeeze the information out of the room, someone could be there and you won't know.
What are we, recruits?
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>>564662073
>He sells mercy kits instead of using them to build a healthy, friendly, non toxic community
How evil
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>>564662181
I mostly mean for peeking out to exterior areas before leaving a POI interior
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total traxus domination
https://litter.catbox.moe/lk3ao6.mp4
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>>564662332
Fair enough. But remember, even after you peeked, someone could be using an uneven surface, to wait right in front of you.
Don't assume it's ok to walk out straight, after getting info just from the door.
If you have multiple doors, walk around, open all of them, then rush through a random one. Or, get to the roof.
Don't trust one door window.
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The day Traxus has suppressors for sale I am gonna fill up on that shit, wish they sold more mods for barter in general
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>>564662909
It's so bullshit how annoying they are to get despite honestly being easy to find the green ones
I have never found a blue suppressor though I don't think, just green and purple so far
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>>564662703
>studying doors in a dead game
autism
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>>564662634
>breedy man breedy
He thinks you're some sort of boogeyman, who's gonna breed him?
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>>564606817
This is the greatest tragedy unironically. Someone takes the wrong lesson, assumes "Oh it was the divisive art style!" when it was dogshit systems that killed this game.
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>>564663654
>dogshit systems that killed this game.
If the systems are dogshit, why one player can kill many and survive.
Why isn't every player continuously(!) failing.
No need to answer, I already know.
>Systems are dogshit because my pussy isn't comfy, SBMM isn't licking me, and the tryhard is sticking me
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A bit of friendly Rook gameplay.
https://litter.catbox.moe/bk94u6.mp4
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>They/xer wanted to play Marathon
>To be licked and loved
>But instead, xer is brutally topped
Of course xer thinks the gameplay is bad.
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>>564664385
I think Rook should not glow red to anyone, when he uses his "bypass UESC" camo. It should work with other Rooks, and all shells. Override Sekiguchi too.
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Friendly assassin doing some weird quest

https://streamable.com/usui1b
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>game locks up and crashes as I'm killing bots with 3 minutes left in the mission
I am so fucking mad right now
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>Wanted to go and play
>Ate too many snacks
>Now I feel like throwing up

Pray for me, /mg/
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>>564665221
The disparities in this game are absurd, completely bipolar.
There is either unhinged mania or suicidal depression and you swing from one to the other
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>>564663987
Hope a Ukrainian drone bombs your hovel, retard.
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>>564665238
I had a big pizza today after work, it made me feel full for a while and I just laid in bed. Marathon is one of those game that you both struggle to pick up and struggle to put down.
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the sheer mental load of a run
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>>564665630
Don't be upset, I'll protect you from the scary sweats
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>>564666062
I could not believe how exciting this game is, after I didn't like the look of it. Surviving a Marathon turns into a better version of yourself. So much smarter, stronger, healthier.
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>>564666382
it's true
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>>564665630
I have to wonder where that came from.
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I wish they had made another semi-open world looter shooter like Destiny but with this Marathon setting, art direction and story/lore
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hey I found another mid-run key for the same map again, I wasn't tripping
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>>564666830
Oh yes, you feel yourself becoming better and happier. Without any fake skill based manipulation. You understand.
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Glorious, I see /mg/ posters unlocking their potential, and becoming Godlike.
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Alright, 3 subroutines down - 03, 04, and 06 left. The Gold Bully is fucking absurd, Circuit Tracers got nerfed a decent bit but it's still easily the best general purpose gun.
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>>564668792
Wow cool, look at all those things I'll never get.
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Bungie money no longer flowing toward Cross it seems.
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>>564667528
Many Assassins died to get to this key room
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>>564668897
I got the bully mod buying it from Traxus, which just requires completing their priority contracts. The Drrvish is from Vault 01 which is at least kind of approachable.
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>>564668792
Are you solo filling that, or have a squad? Good work regardless, unfiltered one.
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>>564669123
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>>564669235
squad, though they're much less nolife than me so I build up most my gear solo, and try to accelerate them by making sure they get the better stuff when we're playing together.
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>>564669291
Tell me you sell those pistols, it's such a piece of trash, every time i see or find one, i chimpout
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>>564669454
I see, you buff your team as much as possible. Very respectable.
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>>564669501
It's not bad when silenced, if you can click heads you can pretty much delete every bot up to Commanders.
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>>564669694
>delete bots
Oh, that's what it's for... I only get hard for runners.
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>trying to listen for movement
>*BWEEOM* RUNNER YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES LEFT IN THE MISSIONS UESC REINFORCEMENTS INCOMING RUNNER THE ANOMALY HAS BEEN STABILIZED RUNNER
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>>564671191
That means they can't hear you over the message either, anon
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>>564671248
I don't think it's consistent all the time though, sometimes ONI won't shut the fuck up and sometimes I'll just get a beep indicator for half a second at the time intervals or bots will just drop in without her saying anything.
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>>564671191
>>564671248
Go to settings, sound. Lower dialogue audio, and music audio.
All you will hear is gunfire, footsteps, and the environment(doors).
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>>564669153
>I got the bully mod buying it from Traxus, which just requires completing their priority contracts.
and by trading them super rare resources us peasants can't get access to without a purple hunting squad breathing down your neck
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>>564662073
>>564662323
not that guy but it was easily cut to make more room in my inventory. If I want them I'll just buy them. Or whatever, I don't need them, OK?
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Is there a trick to farming purple materials? Just go to the location with thief and see if there are purple containers? These things seem ridiculously rare.
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>>564671836
Nope, if you just complete all the priority contracts, each day they'll sell a gold mod for 24,000 credits. Half the time it's for a shit gun, like today it's a Hardline (for me, it's random per player) mod, but you don't need to have VIP, or capstones. Just the priorities done.
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>>trying to listen for movement
>>*BWEEOM* RUNNER YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES
>>564671248
>That means they can't hear you over the message either, anon
I hear you crouch walking 30 meters away, I don't hear the message at all. Zero.
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It's fucking wild how Outpost fills are either communicative chill dudes that try to stick in a group and we roll over idiots or two fucking ADHD riddled retards that can't fucking wait for 2s and get picked off solo by full teams. Barely any middle ground.
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>>564672453
Sposored Marsh is the same. Grown men want to walk together, and straight up say they wanna camp. Mute boys and younger sounding nerds just zip around and get bent.
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>get team with older dudes
>they sound around 35yo
>one says let's get to the roof
>unmute and give them advice
>can one of you stay below the roof, or on the first floor. When you see a guy don't shoot, let us damage him first from the roof, when he tries to hide, then you shoot him from the ground level.
>one of them said yea let's try it
>actually does it right
Marathon uncs are way better at games, than d*stiny dads and A*c bears.
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>>564672448
People were saying Studio Reference is better for hearing more clearly.
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>>564674246
Dunno, I set it this way day one and haven't changed it.
On PC you have even more options.
See 3:09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcf8O25TR14&t=50s
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Assassin's dialogue when you pick him from the shell select screen is so fucking edgy, it's peak.
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I kinda want to collect 2 Thieves, or 2 Vandals in solo.
I'm gonna break their legs first, and then offer them to team up for this one match.
Recons, Destroyers, and Assassins not allowed, I will tell them to kill them.
>What if they refuse
Then it's a 1V3.
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I think Destiny is more fun to play but that game is also dead, at the very least the PvP has been abandoned for years now. I wonder in what kind of abysmal state D2 will end up.
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>>564676236
Destiny one was pretty good at launch. It's outdated compared to Marathon though, there's a clear difference in refinement.
Plus, D1 was developed for base Xbox One and PS4. You can tell that Marathon is designed for the better hardware, play both next to each other, and the generational leap is obvious.
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Alright, I'm gonna bring 2 green shields, and extra health packs.
If the Thieves and Vandal's I'm collecting happen to be free kitters.
If they agree to join me, I'll give them a better shield.
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>>564676924
I just don't like extraction shooters. I'm giving Marathon an earnest try but I'm at my limits.
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>>564528660
>unreadable until you expand it
Nice tech
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>>564677129
>I just don't like extraction shooters.
That's unfortunate, we'd be happy if you joined us, and ascended. You could become an unfiltered one, someone who goes beyond pressure, and becomes Godlike.
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>My team of sponsored grey kits tries to fight scorch warden

lol
lmao
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>>564677728
wardens are easy with any team who cares
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>>564677728
uh just stand far away lmao
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>>564677535
No thanks, anon.
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>>564677728
If one of you are a Destroyer that's literally a freebie
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>Content creators have moved on
>Streamers have moved on
>Player pool so small, the only ones remaining are grievers and sweaters
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>>564671543
>lower music audio
i'll throw my entire vault away before i do that
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Please don't make a new thread
There is not enough content to warrant a general for this game
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>>564678440
>>Player pool so small
Four maps, over 20K players with consoles included.
We don't need more players.
There's too many, for four maps.
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>>564678641
Don't check if there is a thread, or not. Why are you being a bitch, do your pussy lips hurt?
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>>564678641
This
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>>564678927
lmao, I can imagine someone at bungie pitching this to sony
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>>564679406
I work for Sony, not directly with Bungie, but still.
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>>564679559
congrats for getting scammed by bungie then
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>1 hour
>5 runs
>0 progress

Yeah you know what, I'm too casual. Time to uninstall.
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>>564679772
See ya
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I wish I found more in run keys it feels good even if it's a blue key it's like "yes I have something to look forward to"
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>>564680392
This makes the freekit queue so fun any map event is a chance to get a leg up on your fellow shitters.
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>>564679647
I love the game, I don't give a fuck how much Sony lost.
I do electrical work. Game goes offline for maintenance, that's me saying shut it down.
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Rape all Marathon fans
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Exfil: >>564682098
Exfil: >>564682098
Exfil: >>564682098
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>>564659625
kurppahosk is a fraud that can't even shitpost properly.

>>564679559
You have my condolences.
t. Had family with 7/3 hair there in the Morita era.
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>>564677087
A thought crossed my mind. Would you theoretically be able to bring extra shields and swap them as your shields break for instant heals?
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>>564682914
I don't think you're filled to max when putting on a shield.



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