Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9264 - Official Knuxade Edition==NEWS==>TailsTube #15 - Garden Partyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJTcL-xcP8 [Embed]>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 10 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 24 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>564555880
*headpats your OC*
>>564591915fuck off woefag
Gay sex with hedgehogs!!!
>>564591952woefag enabler*
>>564591597Honest question, what counts as a direct sequel? Do you count Heroes as a direct sequel to SA2 or Shad05?What about stuff like CD, which was a side game, by a separate team, made concurrent to a numbered direct sequel?
>>564591915
jess marriage
>>564592187Disney's Toontown Online
>>564592450someone should make an 18+ version
I know that Shade was supposed to be a Knuckles love interest but it's surprising that she was literally saying he was sexy
>>564592959It's a gag manga, though. That kind of thing isn't out of the ordinary in that context.
Chaotix is a Chaotix game, not a Knuckles game. It's about a collection of reject characters and has nothing to do with Knuckles specifically. The name change was another westfaggot lie.Knuckles never got his own game and never will.
>>564592959>>564593036I would say the same
I'm so old that I remember when fans talked about Sonic X the way they talk about IDW"It turned Amy into a stalker!""They made Knuckles a generic angry guy!""They softened Eggman""I HOPE CHRIS DIES"
>>564591859Would be nice to have original japanese scans too
>>564593306That's nice, unc.
>>564593306I miss being a little kid watching Sonic Shorts and not understanding a single bit of the sex jokes
>>564591859I just think it's funny that she beats Sonic
>>564593306everyone still wishes Chris died
>>564593491Dawww. Hopefully you've grown some pubes since then.
>>564593491I learned the word porn because of Shade
>>564592184NTA but according to Iizuka, Heroes was intended to be its own subseries, so it isn't a sequel to anything. Unleashed was originally SA3 before Heroes took its place and was put on hold until 04 or so.
Shade is to Knuckles what Blaze is to Sonic.
>>564594129Kind of, Knux and Shade are more similar than Sonic and Blaze
>>564592184>>564594032Direct sequels are games with the same title but incremented. So Sonic 1, 2, and 3, are the same continuity, and Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are the same continuity
>>564594463SA1's a direct sequel to 3&K and CD though.
>>564594032So a direct sequel has to be a game intentionally developed to be a follow up to a previous game?
>>564594638It's a separate continuity where a lot of the same events took place
>>564594754This wasn't intended to be Sonic 4 but Sonic the Portable. Blame SoA. So no, this one doesn't count,
>>564594271Chronicles feels like the end of an era. It had Gerald and the Echidnas story relevant. Human NPCs, GUN. Death talked about a lot. Maria is still mentioned. Playing as every character. A lot of this stuff is just gone until Frontiers. The Echidnas used to be the biggest lore in Sonic.
>>564594754I'm implementing a new rule that it also has to have been released within a relatively short span of time from the last game
>>564594806But it's made by the same people as the originals. For all intents and purposes, SA1 IS Sonic 4.
>>564594843Basically, it was just a random phone game that got relabeled as Sonic 4 to sell better.
>>564592184The developments in Heroes don't get touched at all except in the noncanon routes. It's more of a sequel to SA2 than Heroes.
>>564594968>it's made by the same people despite the game director, writers, and art director being different
>>564593306I hate Sonic X because it gave people ammo for why humans shouldn't exist in Sonic's world by having Sonic and friends be from a completely different world and sendt to a normal human world needing to hide from other humans just so that Chris would be more importantInstead of just having anthro animals and humans already existing together with Sonic and friends going on adventuresIt also created the 2 worlds shit that makes the world of the series extremely homogenized by having one world that's a normal human world and a world were all the anthro animals and all the fantastical enviornments are. Instead of having a world that's a mix of all these things and helps these places and people special and stand out from each otherI hate IDW for the same being having nothing but animal OC characters fucking everywhere and the people who still want this
>people want cartoon animals in the cartoon animal franchiseperish the thought
>>564595426More people need to realize Sonic X is just as bad as Archie
>>564595393>Naka's producer>Oshima's the CG movie producer>Hoshino's the art directorYou were saying?
>>564595426Hypothetically if you could have it all be one world but instead of humans it was non-OC non-idw generic blobians would that be fine?
>>564595393Naka is in charge of every mainline Sonic game until 06
>>564595560We have all the cartoon animals we need. We don't need anymore. Having everyone like that is lame and makes Sonic look kiddy.
>>564596091NTA but fuck no.
>>564595560Blobians should be important. When you make them the NPCs you diminish them. In the 2000s seeing a new blobian character meant a lot. They would have new powers or story. Now they're everywhere and offer nothing and aren't even nice to look at most of the time. They don't even manage to be more interesting than humans since there is no actual difference between them
>>564595998>Hoshino's the art directorFor>SA1>SA2>Heroes>Shad05If you don't know who he is, he created Amy and Metal.
>>564596285I don't know where the idea that mobians are more interesting came from when the average idw background character looks like a bubsy knockoff
>>564596556Archiefags
MIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>564596556mobians in archie were interesting and were not house pets on 2 legs
>>564596110sonic is for kids
>>564595998>>564596097regardless as a whole it's not the exact same team and even if it was the games are still separate continuity
>>564596729At the very least there is an actual difference between mobians and humans in Archie. In IDW there isn't which defeats the whole point of having them. They don't have a different culture or any culture. Literally only humans and Echidnas have distinct cultures in Sonic. The IDW background civilians are just vague powerless randoms that sometimes look cool and usually don't. There should NEVER be a boring mobian character. They should be the main event
>>564596893Actual kids don't want kiddy shit, but edgy shit. That's why they played GTA over Sly Cooper.
Amy pubes
>>564597041that's just nigs
>>564596893I don't see the point in advocating to boring versions of Sonic running around when humans fill the exact same purpose and make Sonic stand out more as a fantasy. What does random blue dog woman even add? Now I know anthros can be mundane too...?
>>564597069Don't be retarded, dude. We're talking GTA here.
>>564596285I disagree and put that same logic on humans. Eggman used to be the only human and you knew he was unique because of it, it's fucking weird when there's regular shaped humans walking about but you have eggman walking about with his fucked up proportions
This is how it should be
>>564596110For me it looks just as kiddy when a cartoon hedgehog is standing next to a 6 foot tall human
>>564597115>What does random blue dog woman even add?An outlet for some editor to self insert and be in a Sonic story,>>564597196>it's fucking weird when there's regular shaped humans walking about but you have eggman walking about with his fucked up proportionsThen have the other humans look like him. Simple.
>>564596931In the Sonic canon, there are no sub cultures based on species. There is no dog culture or wolf culture. Echidnas are the only ones like that. That is fine when humans are around because it's a sign that the anthros are fully integrated. But it's weird when the humans are gone, especially when humans in Sonic DO have distinct backgrounds and cultures.They have successfully built a world where a random human guy is more likely to be interesting than a random wolf guy because they cannot break the lore that there's nothing unique about wolves.
>>564597115yes because it's even more stupid to think that literally every single blob needs to be a superhero
>>564597345>Then have the other humans look like him. Simple.except they have never done this except for snively
>>564597338That's you. You're not most people. Simple as>>564597280No. There's a reason why we just see Sonic and co.
>>564597280So mundane background blobians and also out of place background humans, why would this satisfy either side of the debate?
>>564597375>>564597345>>564597196The objective worst part is that blobians are not allowed to have species based lore so the entire concept of them being civilians is sabotaged.A human civilian can be from Shamar, a giraffe civlian cannot be from Mazuri. It is built into the logic of this setting that a Sonic character's species has absolutely nothing to do with their background (According to Ian) so by the laws of this setting humans have more to offer than anthros
>>564597543>It is built into the logic of this setting that a Sonic character's species has absolutely nothing to do with their background (According to Ian)According to cartoons, dude. This is what you furries don't get. Sonic and his people are no different from humans except for aesthetics. Regular animals exist in his world, and he treats them like the animals they are.
>>564597543This is the thing that kills it. We know Maria is spagonian, they can actually do something with that. They are never going to create subcultures based on what kind of animal a character is or anything like that. If this was Archie then the fact that Whisper is a wolf would actually mean something but since this is the game canon it can't. And that would be fine but since that's EVERYONE that means every single background character is meaningless. They don't build out the world and their only value is porn
>>564597490Okay? Doesn't mean they still can't do it.>>564597804>They are never going to create subcultures based on what kind of animal a character is or anything like thatBecause they're all from the islands. Their species is incidental. It has nothing to do with anything unless you're an Echidna or a bird.
>>564597743>According to cartoons, dude. This is what you furries don't get. Sonic and his people are no different from humans except for aesthetics. Regular animals exist in his world, and he treats them like the animals they are.No, I get it plenty. In fact I love the way Disney handles it. That is absolutely not how IDW handles it. If you actually WATCHED the fucking Goofy movies or the goof troop series they actually DO use the background characters to tell you about the culture Goofy and friends live inThey CANNOT do that for Sonic because IDW isn't allowed to imply that there's any kind of connotation behind a character's species. That problem is exaserbated when the only species allowed to have a culture is BANNED FROM THE COMIC
>>564597527This is just the equivalent of giving background blobians generic simple designs and color palletes, it would create the same effect
>>564597804Their species is Islander. Consider hedgehogs, fixes and echidnas as seperate races of the same species.
>>564594129No. Shade is Girl Knuckles, Blaze is Nega Sonic which includes Girl Knuckles as 1/3 of the concept.Shade is an "Amy" for Knuckles, if anything. If not that, then a more literal genderswap of Knuckles.
chris and elise gave the fandom human fatiguemost screen time. least interesting stuff. all they did was simp for sonic. we are consuming sonic media to see sonic and shadow and the cool edgy animals do edgy shit and not some shitty kids who want to play with their pets.I had that same frustration with transformers back in the 2000s with michael bay's garbage movies. the useless human characters took all the screen time with their retarded plot. i was expecting bigass robots beating the living crap out of each other while discussing space war stories. but noooo, it had to be the human teenager and his shitty school life. and then the grand finale, optimus prime vs megatron. the most underwhelming and garbage fight ever. lasted about 10 seconds. that's it. 10 seconds. optimus kills megatron just like that after an hour or 2 of shitty human school life build up>but i want humans >:(go outside, nigga a plenty of humans out there. if you must add a human character (or a mobian character) make it worth the time>but all background OCs look the sameI thought you nerds liked it when things were "on model" and "followed the guidelines". you literally got what you wanted.
>>564597960>they actually DO use the background characters to tell you about the culture Goofy and friends live inThe culture of suburban whites?
>>564597920>Because they're all from the islands. Their species is incidental. It has nothing to do with anything unless you're an Echidna or a birdIt's not that they should have a bunch of furry utopia race politics, it's that literally the only species allowed to exhibit any world building is humans.You can actually tell based on a character's design in Pokemon whether or not they're from Kanto, Johto, Unova, or Hoenn. IDW doesn't do that. IDW doesn't give you any reason to have any interest in the background characters.That wouldn't be weird if they didn't draw attention to it with the humans.
>>564598040Shade still has a different enough personality from Knuckles, while he is tough but willing to have fun and is generally pretty loud, Shade is very professional and takes pretty much everything seriously (At least in Chronicles)
>>564598128mammoth mogul looks so badassalso i never watched the michael bay transformers movie, 10 seconds? Really? What a joke.>I thought you nerds liked it when things were "on model" and "followed the guidelines". you literally got what you wanted.I agree with ths
>>564598040No, dumbass. Just as Amy is Sonic's OG love interest, Rouge is the same to Knuckles. Then here comes Blaze as the alternate, and then Shade for Knuckles.
>>564598128>if you must add a human character (or a mobian character) make it worth the timeThey're supposed to be background characters, autist. Why care about randos over the protags?
>>564558528Fun fact: older English accents sounded more like an American accent. The split happened after the British colonies, before recorded speech. Since the U.K. is smaller than the U.S., the accent evolved faster over the generations. We can glean this from written records. So Blaze having an American accent makes sense, and all those history pieces with the redcoats sounding super-Bri'ish are historically inaccurate!
>>564598128>all they did was simp for sonic.Several characters in the Sonic series did the same shit, anon. Especially with Amy. Millennials did not like humans because it went against the SoA lore and they appeared in the 3D era, which also wasn't liked because it wasn't Classic Sonic.
You people are the only people I know that would discuss unimportant background characters at length as if we don't have bigger problems with this series.
>>564598420>autistwho the fuck complains about background characters? usually they are very low detailed blobs of ink unless their presence means something
>>564598515rouge beautiful
>>564598128>>564598259>10 secondsWhy lie?https://youtu.be/xVuT8Zp26qY
>>564598156That is a hundred times more than what you get with IDW. It's also significant that Goof Troop exists in the same continuity as Ducktales and other Mickey Mouse series. The fact that Goofy lives in a town almost completely loaded with other dogs immediately becomes noticable.
>>564598574At least some of you still talk sense
>>564598515Lorefags worry about the dumbest shit. It's why they're creative poison. Same type of losers can't suspend their disbelief and need explanations for fucking everything. It's disgusting.
>>564598035I think the way I've worded it might be confusing you.. I want it to be like the Adventure era games where there's a handful of blobian characters, each distinct and interesting. Humans work as mundane background filler or canon fodder since frankly watching a human die is easier to stomach than watching an anthro die.Maria would be worse off if she was a hedgehog. Humans aren't as cute as hedgehogs. Elise just sucks, human or not. You would have to do more than turn her into a bird to make her a workable character. Chris also just sucks and his entire concept (just like Tom) is an insult to the audience.
>>564598717>I want it to be like the Adventure era games where there's a handful of blobian characters, each distinct and interestingYou already have Sonic and friends.
>>564598607>The fact that Goofy lives in a town almost completely loaded with other dogs immediately becomes noticable.Mickey and Donald live in a world full of mostly dog people because they were the stand-in for regular humans. It's why they look like humans but with dog noses and ears.
>>564598128>>564598696To be honest, I just don't care about whatever the logic is. I think background OCs look shitty 90% of the time and would tolerate it if it was a human. Not going to pretend there's some theory or whatever, it just looks dumb. If I was 8 years old I would also think it was dumb because I was an edgy kid that thought playing serious games made me mature.
Cereal mascot.
>>564598505the fandom had amy fatigue, too. why do you think amy got warped? the fandom doesn't care about the rest of the cast besides sonic and shadow. and maybe silver and knuckles. if they were to get a plenty of screen time like how amy and chris did in sonic x they would get tired fast.>>564598594it was still pretty underwhelming
>>564598915>because I was an edgy kid that thought playing serious games made me mature.Exactly, but the old fucks in charge refuse to understand that so they put Carebears and Smurfs in a game.
>>564598910>"Haha, me neither."
>>564598128I think Chris and Elise are both dogshit characters but let's be honest do you seriously think they would be any better if Elise was a cat and Chris was a dogNow if they were a cat and a dog with super powers then they'd be something.
>>564598717chris is maybe the most worthless character in existence even as a kid I wondered why I was supposed to feel sorry for this billionaire child who was apparently friendless but actually had friends anyway even before sonic and co came alongit's not like they write his parents as uncaring or anything eitherchris is just a little shit
I've read all of Sonic the Comic multiple times, ask my anything
>>564598973>it was still pretty underwhelmingIf you're a nerd, sure.
>>564599121what's your favourite character from IDW, Archie, Fleetway, The mangas & that one french comic
>>564599080>do you seriously think they would be any better if Elise was a cat and Chris was a dogno.>if you must add a human character (or a mobian character) make it worth the timei don't want some useless random poochie who meets his hero from the news on tv.>>564599137bayverse was so lame dude. i paced out alot.
>>564599121Worst story arc in each comic and why?
Sex creatures
>>564598973What this image doesn't show is that despite the screen time Sonic gets, most of it is overlayed by dialogue of other characters talking about how cool he is rather than him just doing cool shit. Overall this made the whole show lame.
>>564599216IDW - Probably Jewel, she is hot and cuteArchie - Either Abyss the Squid, she is fun, or Al and Cal, interesting duoFleetway - Sonic himself, followed closely by ShortfuseHaven't read the mangas yetAdventures - Obviously Alucion, not a lot to choose from
>>564599247>bayverse was so lame dudeBro, you can't call something lame if you're a four eyed autist. You're not cool so why does your word matter? Know your place.https://youtu.be/tADBUatUs28?t=148
>>564598128/LongpostI think the best route is just for humans to be in the background. Humans are easy to ignore compared to the brightly colored anthros, they don't distract your eye, and the kinds of humans you place in a location will tell you about that location. As others have said there is no actual cultural standard for anthros unless they're Echidnas, they're all just some vague white mix concept. In Sonic Adventure you can tell the game is in a Japan centric city because all the school children are in uniform and all of the adults are in business attire. You can tell Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog are in US inspired cities simply because of the president's appearance. You can tell Soleanna is a pretty upstanding and regal area due to the way the humans are dressed. Every single Blobian is either naked or wearing the most expressive clothes possible so they never actually tie into the world building. This is an extremely small detail but I think IDW genuinely feels lifeleless. I'll be the first to admit I don't get any value out of the "npc" unless they're sexy and if they're not sexy they're drawing my eye for no reason.Not a problem in Archie because Archie was less limited in the designs and you could have interesting freaks like Mammoth Mogul, and Archie just went the furry lorefag route with the anthro/mobian differences. In the games it's a different problems. Background mobians just objectively look like shit in the games except for Rush. I have nothing to break down there and I don't care about the lore, they just look terrible. Anything else would be better.
>>564598515If you ignore the small problems, they will become bigger. Things like the Two Worlds mandate could have been easily killed off early if people didn't try to brush it off because "It's such a small issue"
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>>564598505
>>564599269Fleetway - The one where Sonic is a human, art is horrendous and racist potrayal of Tails is out here too, the one with Kid Cruel is bad tooArchie - 150 arc, Scourge raping Bunnie is of course the worst partIDW - Not entirely sure, but likely one with Lunar, seems the most underdeveloped
>>564599381
>>564599585Really if they simply made the blobians look from a certain place it'd be fine, make new locations and have people from that particular location LOOK a certain way. Like how if you to the middle east you'll find a lot of people dressed the same.But no, they want their funky deviant art ocs with insane designs
Do you think they're afraid to let other blob races have cultures because of Penders?
>>564599960that'd be retarded, sega only got molested by penders over the echidnas. Who's going to cry and piss their pants if they gave wolves their own culture?
>>564599857>Really if they simply made the blobians look from a certain place it'd be fineYeah. I don't need to know about wolf culture or whatever but if you're in a poor city I'd like to see poor looking people, in a rich city I'd like to see rich looking people. Every IDW background OC is wearing nothing or they'll have like a skull necklace or something and that just tells you nothing other than the artist wanted to draw a really cool nameless character with no background story. IDW has characters that look like royals walking around in cheap wood cabins for no reason and it just tells me there's no reason to even think about it. Just look at the pretty OC.
>>564599960Yes, either that or accidentally offending real life cultures. Like how Holoskans are Swedish eskimos.
>>564599960>Do you think they're afraid to let other blob races have cultures because of Penders?Babylonians and Sungazers.
>>564599698>*stabs you in the guts*>"sucks when it happens, innit mate? I'll show you a magic trick">*a flicky comes out of your wound*>"you got a loicense for dat flicky mate? no?">*back flips you*
>>564600047It really saddens me how much waste there is with IDW (and Sonic in general, honestly)Cool ideas thrown out of the window in favour of entertaining no one but yourself and mentally ill teenagersIf I were to make a Sonic comic, I'd make the background characters make a semblance of sense.
Well my super unique opinion is IDW having nothing but blobian ocs makes it look like it takes place in a separate continuity from the 2000s games and I like the 2000s games so this turns me off to IDW
>>564600245The fact that Central City showed up and there were no humans in sight should prove that,
>>564600168>PinkskinEw.
>>564600129>BabyloniansSeriously. Big fucking elephant in the room because some autist wanted to bitch.
>>564600332IDW takes place in a post apocalypse where all humans were turned into cute blobians
>>564600457>that dialogueDisgusting.
Just know that the average teenage IDWfag gets bullied by the average teenager. Freaks will be freaks. No matter what.
>>564600597see >>564600457
I think background OCs should be banned outright as a precaution actually. They're retarded headcanon bait. In issue 64 you can see Silver's sisters watching him across the entire issue. Real fucking subtle. I hate that shitI also hate that time when you can clearly see an old purple cat man in the sol dimension with a design intentionally made to look like Blaze standing around her castle. Gee I wonder what THAT'S implying.Literally fuck off. This is exactly why they shouldn't be here. Because the only time any thought is put into them is straight up fanfiction headcanons forced into the comic.
>>564583436>>564556016Cream's true origin is unironically the biggest mystery in Sonic since MJ, too bad the autists who care would rather use their little-head than their big-head
>>564600720And bullying others into suicide is good to you?
>>564600956>headcanon baitso nothing to worry about
>>564600956>Silver's sistersThey're not that in the "IDW universe" though, so relax autist.
>>564601098If you're being annoying as fuck, yeah. Read the room.
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>>564600956The funny thing about this is Vennie already appeared in Archie meaning IDW broke the rule of Archie original characters never appearing in IDW
>Sonic should have humansWhich humans? The rubberhosesapiens species? New Donk City low-budget fleshians? The animegonians? Catgirlmerians from the OVA? The movie actors?
>>564601287Vennie a cute!
>>564601198I was considered annoying as fuck and unable to read the room, but my autism prevents me from groupthink.
i don't want background ocs unless they have big tits
This city looks like it's scaled to blobian heights. A n adult human wouldn't be able to fit in those cars. How is this Central City?
>>564601578
>>564601329X humans like in ShadGens.
>>564601578I want a good ratio, nice tits & a nice butt
>>564601581That's the Sonic X pilot teaser background character, isn't it?
>>564601581No humans in IDW thank god.
>>564601861Furfag...
the funny thing about this debate is that it ultimately got reverted anyways. in all sonic media except idw and crossworlds (which just reuses assets for the npcs) humans are the main background characters again. Even Shadow generations due to the GUN soldiers. They dropped the entire concept everywhere except IDW. The Chaotix Casefiles uses humans. The manga uses humans. The channel stories use humans. The promo art uses humans. Humans FROM the Sonic games appear in the DC comic for no particular reason. This isn't an artistic decision or a worldbuilding chocie, the only reason IDW doesn't have humans is because it's stuck with a decade old mandate that Sega doesn't adhere to anymore because of the movies.
You can say anything to Evan. What would it be?
>>564601938You're ugly. Inside and out.
>>564601905I guess.
>>564601917>>564601861It still baffles me that even 2026, Sega cannot into contracts.
>>564601793Oh shit, it's is.
>>564556016Cream was conceptualized for Heroes, and introduced earlier in Advance 2 which also further developed her character concept in a more solid form that would then be the basis for Heroes, and all the while X was in development so she was put there too. All of these things were developing at the same general time frame, so Cream is linked to all three from the ground up.
>>564601938unironically why does belle look like her?
>>564601938Can Belle fuck and would she enjoy it?
>>564601938Can't draw humans.Me neither
>>564602093You should hear the movie director talking about it. He goes "So basically Sega told us to make it two worlds and then changed their mind anyways so now the movies are wrong"Can you imagine making a "story focused" franchise and not knowing for an absolute fact what fucking planet it's set on?
>>564602232She's unironically her self insert. It's why she got pissed that nobody liked her and why she was adamant that she was cool. She took it as a personal attack,
>>564601917It's funny that the movies went with humans because they thought the audience wouldn't relate to Sonic
>>564602326kek, silly lady. I quite like Belle.
>>564602271I genuinely wonder if things'll at least become consistent when Iizuka dies (nevermind better or worse), because he seems like a serial flip-flop.
>>564601710she should hold my hand without gloves on
>>564601710
>>564602236Sorry due to the Ian-Evan mandate women in Sonic can only be two things: independent women who neeed no man or crying lesbians. Choose.
>>564602505w-wew!
>>564601793I HATE THAT SHIT. EVRYONE WILL SEE THAT AND THINK " oh so Sega is finally acknowledging Sonic X" when no. No they're not they are not acknowledging it at all. Some fucking fan artist wanted to show off that he remembered an obscure background OC from a shitty non canon anime and insert his existence in the games without even thinking about the implications. I hate IDW so fucking much. Just be a Sonic comic. I'm literally begging.
>>564602665IDW isn't for you anymore
>>564602597Fuck.
I hate how IDW treats Sonic and friends like superheroes. This sounds like a retarded complaint but to put it into perspective, go back to the winter lodge chapter and look at the moment when Amy evacuates the civilians and then asks for a rundown on the situation. What is this, MHA? One Punch Man? Why is Amy doing that?
If you hate IDW so much why does it occupy your thoughts and attention for 24 hours of the day and 7 days of the week?
I like it when Sonic and friends stick out like sore thumbs, I don't know why. It reminds me of Digimon or Sesame Street or something.
>>564602948IDW is a follow-up from forces where the main cast spearheaded an organised resistance military force. Blame SoJ for that.
>>564602593Nice.
>>564603129boobs occupy my thoughts and attention for 24 hours of the day and 7 days of the week
>>564602948Sonic and co. are world famous
>>564597041When I was a kid I liked the humans and cities in Sonic because it reminded me of the city I lived in and made me feel like Sonic can be in my city. I didn't like Shadow the Hedgehog because I didn't like imagining the city destroyed.
reading archie and i'm on the early whimsy issues but what drugs were they on?
>>564603178It's Sonic. Everything reverts to rhe status quo anyway. The problem is the comic is written by autists who can't accept that and want things to be explained. This is the problem with nerds writing fiction.
>>564603135Or Roger Rabbit?
I reject your gay poxxed tralala faggot official canon and replace it with my own
>>564603303the 90s
>>564602665>I HATE THAT SHIT. EVRYONE WILL SEE THAT AND THINK " oh so Sega is finally acknowledging Sonic X" when no. No they're not they are not acknowledging it at all. Some fucking fan artist wanted to show off that he remembered an obscure background OC from a shitty non canon anime and insert his existence in the games without even thinking about the implications.I do sympathize with the frustration that the writers in charge tend to not really understand that they're acting in an official capacity, not fanworks anymore, and make decisions that can be easily misconstrued as "official Sonic Team approval" that tends to create false expectations.
>>564603257That's not my issue. It's more that the characters, mostly Amy and Tails, act like they're law enforcement or something. I get that they're the most capable but can you imagine Goku asking the local police for an update so he can help stop a crisis? It's weird.
>>564603327Not to mention the continuity porn with all the random references worked into the dialogue.
>>564603448>can you imagine Goku asking the local police for an update so he can help stop a crisis? It's weird.that's krillin's job now
>>564603327This is why you let Japanese do the writing.
>>564603357That too
>>564603303idk. drugged chillidog sauce?
>>564603592The ones who wrote Forces?
>>564603249Based and ditto.
>>564603574what the fuck are they smoking writing nu dragonball
>>564603717The Japanese only make good things. If it's bad, a westerner did it. If it's bad but a Japanese person did it, it doesn't count.
>>564603618i forgot they made charmy a prince wtf
>>564603749Krillin became a cop.
>>564603823Him being a prince is pretty consistent, it happened in Fleetway too
>>564603327IS THST WHY WE HAVE SPENT NINE FUCKING YEARS ON THE AFTERMATH OF THE RESTORATIONEVERY FUCKING TIMEOOOH THE RESTORATION IS GIVING PACKAGES TO KIDSOOOH THE RESTORATION IS BUILDING NEW MEASURES TO RESPOND TO EGGMANOOOH THE RESTORATION PROVIDES THERAPY SERVICES FOR THE TRAUMATIZEDHOLY FUCK WHY IS THIS HERE? BECAUSE OF FORCES?
>>564603823he was a prince in fleetway, too. idk if one copied the other, or if they had the same idea, or if it was in charmy's early non public character bio
I don't know why having humans exist in this series is so extremely controversal to you people, have the humans be stylized and there is no problemSonic Channel already does this and Maria and Gerald in Shadow Generations is the best they haver ever looked
The real issue is that American writing has become such utter dogshit in general thanks to both new age political bullshit and shitty trends. Something has to be either ironic, subversive or therapy shit. Rule of Cool is looked down on and being a pretentious fuckwit is the aim.
american culture is just being obnoxious
>>564603823>>564603916Isn't this just because he's a fucking bee. Like they just did it because he's a bee and that's all. He's a bee so he has to be royalty >>564604025Comic fags don't give a shit about Sonic Channel
Krilin hates black people
>>564604126It thought being a loud tryhard was cool, when everywhere else has the stoic guy aura farming.
>>564604179well it's a cartoon world where anything goes. he is a male bee with a stringer (female bee feature). he could have been a random worker
>>564604025People blame humans for being screenhogs like Chris and Elise but really it's the same shit in IDW. The diamond cutters are the same shit but worse since they've been around even longer. I hate the diamond cutters and I hope Evan dies.
>>564604126Americans are very insecure in general so they need to act loud and smug to look cool when actual cool people are actually confident in themselves and don't need to try hard to be cool
>>564603445yeah but it's a generic background reference to a pilot that didn't even air, no one is going to think that means Sonic X is canon
>>564604253>everywhere else has the stoic guy aura farming.Literally. Japan, China, Latin America, and America once upon a time. It's a universal sort of cool.
I hate when I'm watching a movie about bees or ants and the mc has a love interest. Do these animators think I don't know how bees work? That's your sister you freak.
>>564598696>Same type of losers can't suspend their disbelief and need explanations for fucking everythingCase in point >>564604537
>>564604497You'd be surprised. Sticks is considered Schrodinger's canon due to being mentioned in one version of Frontiers but not the other.
>>564604537IIRC the workers that the Queen lays are genetic copies of her, so they're more like clones. And later on in the nest's life, the male ones are the same only male. Kinda crazy right?
>>564604025As background characters they're extremely stock and unmarketable.
>>564604537
I don't know why Chris gets so much hate when he's unironically a better character than Amy and Tails>BaitI'm serious. Tails and Amy have been awful characters since heroes. They haven't contributed anything to any Sonic story that came out in my lifetime. At least I understand the idea behind Chris. Amy and Tails just keep showing up because they are Amy and Tails and all of their "fans" seethe that they are doing stupid unentertaining shit when that's all they have done for decades. Sonic Frontiers would be better without them
>>564604759They're background characters, dumbass. The main cast are the ones you're supposed to care about.
>>564604819Because he is still in the same category as amy and tails
>>564604770>Sweet home AlaBEEma
Not having Sage follow Sonic like Chip was retarded.
>>564604839Exactly. Remove them. If you must have something there, put some shrubbery.
>>564604956She'll be back.
>>564605024No, autist. You need them to make the world feel alive.
>>564604686A Sonic Boom character being directly mentioned by name is completely different, that's SoA being retarded and letting Ian run wild
Sex with mobian children
It's a nice touch that all of the wildlife in Sonic Frontiers is either aquatic or airborne. It's as if the titans and the guardians wiped out all the land animals.
>>564605165WHERE?!
>>564605314Except for a single hedgehog.
>>564605090Re-use the Forces character creator and make some smocks to populate the world.
I just burnt my hand at my jobSonic characters for this feel?
>>564605675Spongebob
"I wonder if Cream and Sticks are free" (Boom - Frontiers)"This is Commander Abraham Tower" (Archie - Shadow Generations)"Let's do it to it" (Satam - Frontiers)"Sonic's the name speeds my game" (Aosth - Super Smash Bros Brawl)"Gotta go fast" (Sonic X English dub - Sonic Prime)
>>564605675Careful now. Be sure to put some burn ointment or honey on it then cover it with a wrap or bandage or plaster.>>564605740kek
>>564605740oh yeah. he is on topic now
Tails!
>>564604819Occassionally Amy or Tails do something based, Chris does fucking nothing and has zero personality
>>564605752Everyone hates the last one.
>>564605314You actually pissed me the fuck off. This isn't a "touch". It's laziness, it's lack of detail. There are no animals because Sonic Team didn't think to put any in. Why the fuck would the titans kill random animals.I can't fucking stand this fanbase.
>>564606003>Occassionally Amy or Tails do something based>Uses an example that isn't in a gameSo what you mean to say is Amy and Tails would occasionally do something based twenty years ago
>>564606003>Why is that boy hanging with giant animal plushies? he should grow the hell up.
>>564606042
>>564604819Tails shows up because he's a good character and because he was specifically designed to appear in a lot of stuff which is why they used him in conjunction with Sonic a lot (and still do today)Meanwhile Chris makes Sonic ooc as fuck and he's incredibly annoying and
>>564606183Yes
>>564606042But there are animals, birds and many fish and sea life, just no land creatures. It's interesting because the waterfall islands are full of vegetation. In real life there are always land animals on islands with grass and trees, so something must have happened for an entire archipelago to lack them. If it was laziness I don't think there would be so many robot types and fish. I think the machines killed the natural order. We're looking at a preview of the world if Eggman won.
>>564606406No you stupid bitch, we already saw what would happen if Eggman won in Sonic CD. There are no land animals because the older titles didn't have any assets to use in that capacity, or are we forgetting that Frontiers is full of reused assets.
>>564606327Tails hasn't done a single entertaining thing in 25 years, at least Chris makes you think. His selfish decision is at least something
>>564606570Tails is entertaining and aggregates in most of his appearances
>>564606525Sonic CD is a classic game so it had its own aesthetic. Frontiers was definitely going for a "technology won" tone
>>564606570Chris hasn't done anything entertaining in over 20 years either
>>564606767Seriously dude
I HATE fire!
>>564597063Impossible. She plucks.
What do you want out of Tails? More years of him talking about his potential to be a hero like Sonic that will never come because these characters don't age? Or Amy who stopped chasing Sonic and now the boring mom of the group.
>>564607123I want Tails Adventure remastered. With better UI
>>564607123He's already a hero and Sonic's partner
>>564607207this
>>564607302Remind what he did in Forces again
>>564603741>>564598939today I will jerk off in the thread
>>564607417He was traumatized but that wasn't conveyed wellSonic and Tails complement each other and form the unbreakable bond where they're unbeatable. Sonic wants Tails by his side
Shadamy!
>>564606467I'm scared
>>564607706why? that game already sucks.
^-^
>>564606327Why do you faggots keep saying Sonic X is ooc
>>564607864Because it is
>>564608037Proof?
>>564607207I just want all the SMS/GG games given the retro-engine (or A.I.R.) treatment with customization features as part of a new collection, maybe toss in emulated 16-bit Spinball, SegaSonic, Chaotix, Fighters, 3D Blast and R for good measure.>Didn't fans already beat them to it?Not really, the existing fanmade recreations are either unfinished or turned out to be more like reimaginings. This isn't like the Dreamcast mods of Sobic Adventure PC where fans have basically cobbled together the best possible version short of a new remake, there's still alot of room to modernize the 8-bit games (and I don't mean "let's give Sonic COINS," that shit was embarrassing).
Does Blaze not like sushi? Does Silver break random walls as a hobby?
>>564608176Sonic is afraid of water, he feels like he owes his life to Chris which is fundamentally ooc. Amy is very irritable which wasn't how she was portrayed in previous games. Knuxouge is much more pronounced, and in general many character traits are exaggerated in X compared to the games
>>564606693Either bait or low functioning.
>>564608382Blaze likes candySilver needs something to throw at someone
>>564608616You just don't like the theory,
>>564608382Blaze apparently doesn't like cooking because it reminds her that she still has a long way to go in controlling her flames. I think her favorite food is tea regardless, but according to Ian Flynn on Bumblekast, he got a note back from SEGA saying that she prefers cold food. Which is vague and could be anything. I think it should be seafood-based because she's a cat.
Telling Tails he is adorable <3
>>564608982he probably hears that everyday
Them them
>>564609074Yes because everyone loves him
>>564607513>"May I watch, Mister Anon?"
>>564609247No
>>564608382>>564608950Her host looks like they're baiting her with a nice fishy banquet.
>>564609247hmm.......
>>564609282
>>564608950>rare official art of the cloak she suppisedly wearsall the timeWhy do they keep hiding it? WHAT SECRETS DOES IT HOLD??
>>564608832Because it's bullshit, dude. Sonic Team were just too lazy, unskilled and untalented to deliver a proper open world. And you're just too autistic to see that.
>>564609390that wasn't me anon but I'll allow it if you help out
>>564608950>she prefers cold food. Which is vague and could be anything.It means she likes eating cold food. Like ice cream.
>>564609603Retconned retcon that got retconned after the retcon
>Forces will get a remake before 06
>>564610105P-06 is the remake. Someone just needs to mod back in the hub areas and cutscenes
>>564610105He's still in forces?
Marathon Recompile is more interesting to me than P-06.
>expecting 06 shitThis franchise isn't for you anymore
>>564609848Broad cateogory. That implies she'll eat anything uncooked, which implies her taste isn't refined enough to have a favorite. Also, Amy, Cream, and Sonic-X Rouge* already have ice cream as their favorite food.*supposedly; the eyecatch card doesn't mention it, but the wiki claims it without a source anyway, so I have half a mind to think some dude misremembered or is injecting headcanon.
>>564609716
>564608950>he got a note back from SEGA saying that she prefers cold food.I mean, preference works like that, not everyone has a specific favorite food.
>>564610447I'd like to see a bit more than her face anon
>>564610207>Now you can see him job in HD!
i thought chris was gay with how much he obsessed over sonic
>>564610616Yeah?
>>564608950her favorite food is uncooked pizza>sourceme
>>564610545If it's a remake, they need to give Infinite a better story and by definition a better fight with Silver
>>564608950OH SHITKitty is having her bad nightmare again
>>564610539
>>564611053this works for me
It's curryPajeetaze favorite food is curry
Would Sonic like "America The Beautiful" or the "Star Spangled Banner" sound more
>>564608382Silver is mad because the staff fogot to give him an apple and with the extra attention they put on Blaze he's not under their spell.
>Remake of 06>Remake of forces>Frontiers has Silver PlayableWhy does this irrelevant leech keep getting more then he deserves while Blaze suffers because of him where's her games?
Douge
>>564611423Sonic is deaf. He can just read lips (and speech bubbles) really good.
>>564610259I think I would prefer to play the game with all the gameplay tweaks that were made for P-06. If those eventually get modded into Marathon Recompile then that would end up being the best version
The Sonic X ooc narrative is so forced. It has ooc elements but there are games more ooc than x
>>564610259I think so too. I don't dislike P06 since i've played it over & over so much but i still want to play a true native pc port of 06.
>>564597527>Naruto panel>Middle aged dude with glasses and 'stashe>Shirt, tie and pulloverkek, bless him.
>>564611819Unleashed recompile is compatible with all the console mods, I'm hoping marathon recompiled does the same thing because there's some actual good gameplay tweak mods & additional content already made for 06.
>>564599121How many of them did you pay for?
>>564608950>I think it should be seafood-based because she's a cat.Haha remember when Ian Flynn had the audacity to roleplay as Big in his bunglekrap and believed he's too innocent to actually eat the fish he catches and deadass throws them back in the water?
Man you guys are so down in the dumps let's do something fun like scream about IDW or argue about digimon
>>564611530
>>564612664Man, fuck Digimon. Pokemon-ass bullcrap ripoff.
>Big probably eats the fish raw while it's still wiggling because he's that simple>Blaze prefers her fish chopped up and prepared like a woman of cultureBut how does Honey take her fish? What if she's one of those weird cats that DOESN'T like fish?
>>564611423https://youtu.be/amCjDyIoaPYobligatory
>>564613226At least it's more original than Bakugan
>>564613235>big eat fish raw and alive right after catching it>blaze eats sushi>honey enjoy seafood dishes
>>564613349The key to winning spinner battles is weight. Heaviest one wins. Simple.
>>564613371>King as Eggman, Queen as SageHuh?
>>564613645enough about your mum
>>564613235honey is one of those weird cats that doesn't like fish, sorry anon.
Honey is transgender
>>564613215I hate this image. Please stop posting it.
>>564613763jej
>>564613215I love this image. Please keep posting it.
>>564613235exclusively canned tuna is what honey eats
>Shitaze is so good you guys she likes fish because she's a cat like bigLiterally none of you can give me any reason to like this fucking character, all the headcanons you can manifest end up being the most retarded little kindergarten facts, vault this bitch already
>>564613746Yeah. It should've been Vanilla.
>>564613235She likes shrimp because she likes teasing shrimpy boys.
Is this dogshit franchise dead yet
>SonicBros>KnuckleFags>TailPedoScatophileDogFuckers >ShadowFats>AmyBesties>CreamScholars>OmegaChads>BigNiggas>RougeGooners>VectorFans>EspioYumes>CharmyFuckers>SurgeLusters>KitKissers>Tangle/WhisperHomos>BabylonBitches>SallyCopersAnyone I miss?
Sonic is the wind. Even in the Archie comics.
>>564615459>BlazeJeets>SilverGODS
>>564615274Nearly.
goodnight
>>564615672More like BlazeKings and SilverGlazers
8 years into IDW era. Sonic is getting its 4th Movie next year. The core customer base was born within this Sonic era. If you were in your 20s arguing that IDW is going to last at best 2 more weeks, you're now in your 30s and your kids only know Sonic as it is in the IDW era.
>>564615779Did he cum in her?
>>564615848Blazetrannies because you said king not queen, checkmate
good morning!>>564615779rest well
Evan's IDW is social violence.
>>564615897I love it when Blaze is Sonic little cumdumpster, it's more unique than Sonamy because he's lustful towards her
All the "default" (relation)ships are relegating every character to the dustbin because of audience capture.
>>564616026Ohayō cutie!
>>564613371>"Hey shitass, Catch!"
>>564616826
>>564616970OCshit is off-topic.
>>564616447I always imagined that Sonic wouldn't be be into relationships but would be into casual sex
>>564616814hiiiiiii!
stale franchise
Sonaze has more excitement and frictionSilvaze is milquetoast and sacchrine
>>564615582seems like archie wrote themselves into a corner with Sonic's characterization here
>>564617005Frequently with cream? I agree
>>564617001Well that's too fuckin' bad
>>564616970OCcuties are on-topic and i rub my penis to them
>>564617026Every character has been defanged.
>>564617013
>>564617301
>>564617205I rubbed my penis on this post
>>564617201>>564617475OCs are off-topic.
>>564617553>>564617205rub it on me next...?
>>564617732dfwnn...
>>564617607
>>564617026>excitement and frictionAnd many other bullshit Blazefags tell
>>564617914Is Blaze a good singer?
>>564618017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC6aUzz2zwk
/sthg/ is dead...
>>564617732>>564617896Why are you spamming off-topic garbage.
>>564618017she has the voice for it but she's too emotionally withdrawn to properly give a passionate performance
Elias but Bishounen
Good morning /sthg/
>>564618327whisper can i touch u
>>564618327morning!
>>564618327'morning friend
>>564618301The capability of moaning doesn't mean the voice of a singer, you have to be very on note no matter what voice you have
>>564617896>>564618286Because you keep bitching about it
>>564618505>>564618604OCshit has nothing to do with the general or Sonic
>fag 1 posts a fan character based on Sonic series>fag 2 instantly starts crying about said fan characters>fag 1 doubles down on posting I'm sensing a pattern
>>564618604That looks like a furry more than a Sonic character
Do you realize that ocshit has nothing to do with Sonic and this general. It's basically autistic RP where ocfags shill their own ocs and turn the conversation about headcanon fanfiction that nobody aside frome themselves understand. Ocshit should be a bannable offense.
>>564618753NTA you should see Archie characters
>>564618604>Lesbian Sticks to promote OCKys
Why can't sega re-release older games like sonic heroes on pc?
>>564618687It has to be a bot or him replying to himself. It could also be both.
>>564618753i think that every time i see a blobian with a neckits very maddening at times
>>564618954theyd have to replace all the team boss fights because sega needs to sanitize amy
>>564618941>>564619164OCs are off-topic.
>>564615031
>>564618997the posts about OCs being off-topic sure feel like they're made by a bot since it's the same short copy and pasted response for a year now
>>564619164He's lighting the filter because he's distracted.
>>564619823Your low quality shit OC has nothing to do with us.
Doubling-down is a sign of severe autism, right?
*vores your OC*
>>564619823your high quality amazing OC has everything to do with us!
>>564619067Off topic but she’s one of my favorites. I’m literally one card away from having a full US art set and I’m meeting the VA at a con later this year
>>564619954>Doubling-down is a sign of severe autism, right?but of course!
>>564618017>Is Blaze a good singer?If Sonic can sing, then so should she.
>>564619983Vector...
>>564618997
>>564613746Sage is Eggman's daughter and is an AI. So once Eggman croaks, the Empire is her's making her Queen forever because she is forever.
*grabs your OC by the throat*
>the octard is one person
>>564619954>>564620208you guys act as if this isn't how the general and this entire site has been running for years now
This supposed to be Human Sally?
*unzips pants while approaching your OC*
>>564620896Ew don't touch me faggot
>>564619690Yeah, it literally responds the same way if you argue or even reply to it. It does this with things other than OCs too.
Fag hours
>>564617685PLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAP-
>>564597280No, hide animals unless they're main characters. These are fucking toon town designs, terrible. Keep animals reserved, only bring them out if they had a planned really good design and importance.
>>564621163That's all hours
>>564621163but no one has posted sonurge yet
>>564621163when is it bisexual hours, id like to be there when it happens
>>564597338You're the minority, and base your tastes to be contrarian.
>>564621336everythingfag...
>>564621336You're such a slut
>>564620863>"My hand is made for handjobs!"I can kinda see it.
>>564621336Sorry, MOBIANS only
>>564599698What about Scourge doing that do you not like? Overly edgy? Out of character?Cause you better not be basing your opinion on fiction for the sake of fictional character's feelings! Or else I'm gonna be steamed!
*shits in your OC's bathroom*in the sink
>>564600457Quirko social media addict dialog.
*arrests your OC for tax evasion*
Boy
>>564602593No! No!You fucking stupid brain! Why do I like this?! Fuck my brain, I hate you!
Honey the Cat!Blaze the Cat!
>>564603913I've been saying this since like issue 20.>"Okay, can we move past furry GI Joe and got back to normal Sonic Adventures?
Oh yeah, Majima next week
>>564622038IN....Tag Team Blowjob Zone!
>>564622113you would not survive
>>564622216I'm here for a good time not a long time
>>564622038Plap the Cat!Plap the Cat!Not necessarily in that order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEm1hx4vezU
>>564604819I'm one of the few people who likes Chris and I still completely disagree with you
>>564619983Giganto...
>>564594129Not every character needs a "Blaze" tho.Giving knuckles his own "Blaze" before his own "Shadow" is a bit out of order lol.
>>564622274send him out with a bang...>>564622465priorities nonny, priorities
Fellas we gotta stop masturbating
>>564624507why
>>564613349still can’t believe they turned the latest reboot into shitty beyblades (I wish I was joking)
>>564624507I never started
>>564623858>Giving knuckles his own "Blaze" before his own "Shadow" is a bit out of order lol.But Espio is Knuckles' Shadow (or more accurately, Shadow is Sonic's Espio). It's an injoke on how he stole his game.
>>564624507
>>564624823I wish Espio had the chance to be his own character instead of being 1/3rd of a comedic relief trio.
>>564625010He had one in Archie
How do blobians do birth control?
>>564625010Sonic Team would never fumbled a character by attaching them to other character(s)
>>564594129Shade's more like his Amy. Had things gone well with chronicles, Maybe Knuckles would've gotten his own crew.
The classicboomers were right. Sonic's shitty friends were a mistake.
>>564625410And then Super Genesis Wave happened.
>>564625514This is sarcasm, right?
>>564625602Honestly? Yeah. There are too many characters and none of them add anything meaningful to the series.
>>564624058Banging Honey till the sun comes down!
Why that happened with Sonic tho>peak Sonadow is higher than peak Sonamy, sad
>>564625472They don't but it's fine to eat the newborns that don't survive.
>>564626127Shadow is too based to ever date anyone, he has the hottest chick in his universe following him around and he's still too much of a badass to humor her.
>IDW Sonic is more and more popular thanks to Sonic 3>IDW cancels his comicWhat a bunch of moronsAlso, IDW is more and more popular, much to this place's disappointment
>>564626525Why using ecker and risking your posts being deleted
>>564626761Because like Shadow I don't respect the rules if they're unjust and cannot be stopped.
>>564625532>Sol dimensionObviously Norman the polar bear
>>564625472Males have the power to suppress sperm in their semen, so they can literally creampie females all the time if they want.
>>564625891People wanna collect em like Pokémon. Its not sustainable.
>>564626127Year of Shadow really put in some work. Let's see what Year of Amy can do.
>>564625705Obviously.>>564627046Correct. The franchise nor the characters have a solid direction, just isolated moments of "development" for their favorite ship or character.It's fallen into the same trap as capeshit or transformers.
>>564628525wtf duofag
>>564628314>29>EGGMAN—0:1What the numbers mean?
>>564627089Sonadow fujos fear Sonamy. They can't stand it because they hate heterosexuality. 2027 is their worst nightmare
>>564628525>Chaofuckers itt
>>564628525>a chao is fine, too
>>564625532>Rouge is Amy...What.
>>564628661consult with the chart
>>564625602Classicboomers do it with obscure classic characters too. They only complained about shitty friends that came out after 1998.
Surprised it can't accurately gen something as simple as a chao.
>>564629031Many of them unironically thought Amy was introduced in 1998
>>564628686>>564628825
>>564625532>Shade's more like his Amy.>>564598303
>>564628525>>564629551>Chao are making Cream wet
>>564626735>IDW is more and more popular,Compared to what? That graph's too vague to figure out popularity.
it does feel a bit like re8or nosferatu>silver and blaze stole shadow's plot from his own one-shot
>>564626735>Google search=popularity This is why they call you "cattle"! All western comic book publisher's are going under while and idw is in a worst position than dc or marvel because thay rely 100% on licensed and nobody wants to work with them
>>564627013That sounds like bullshit. Let me test it on you since you're so confident.
Blaze would be better as Amy's upright galpal rather than Blazefags trying so hard to make her Girl-Shadow.Her being the latter is a dead-end for the character.There is no reason to do anything in her dimension outside of wanting to shill her. Anything you could do there, you could just do with Sonic in the main dimension.
>>564629952>uwuver's backWhat's the next cope?
I want to fuck Chocola
>>564630034The covers always lie. Silver looks cool and tough in the cover but inside the actual comic, he's just going to be UWUver
>>564629928Lucky gal.
>>564629987>Compared to what?compared to itself from the past, don't you understand what "more and more" means>>564630046so should I search yahoo
>>564630101Just make her the Princess of South Island or something.
>>564629952LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>564629952>it's a mystery/horror story with a guy and a girl aloneI swear to God, they better bedroomeyes each other and have implied sex at the end of this...
>>564630272>compared to itself from the pastThat's not a good metric if it wasn't popular to begin with. You have to compare it to other things that are popular or whatever it's competing with.
>>564629952>>564630152HD cover confirms it's not uwuver
>>564630272No, retarded cattle. You should post their comic books sales
>>564630152Forget about coping. Let's address the elephant in the room for once. Are these comics even being properly supervised? This is not how Silver is supposed to behave according to the games and his Sonic Channel bio
>>564630489I don't get the appeal. Do people ship this out of obligation? Because it's the expected thing to do? It just feels so performative and fake.
>>564630495Sonic's in the league of his ownUnless you count UDON comics but we don't have numbers, or I didn't find them
>>564630673They fell for the stop. There is absolutely nothing to this pairing. It's all made up.
>>564630152And here it is >>564630525
The Silver/ Blaze special is just going to be Silver distrusting the royal guy, Blaze not trusting him, then Silver uncovering a secret, then Blaze being like "I should have trusted you".Silver will probably mope and sigh around the castle and then drag his hand across like a stone that activates a secret passage and stumble and fall backwards into a secret passage being like "whooaaa ahh geeze" like Shaggy in Scooby Doo.
>>564630609>You should post their comic books salesHere's some.
>>564630083Get away from me, you human BREEDER!
>>564630609Sonic is the second most successful IDW product, only behind TMNT in that regard
>>564631125Not a high bar.
>>564631065>>564631125Yeesh. That's sad.
>>564630849Yeah, if you don't interact with people on a daily basis I would assume you can't read faces
>>564630320That still doesnt silver the issue of thr Sol Emeralds or her being too busy to ever show up.Blaze needs a straight up reboot/rewrite.She's still worse than Knuckles in such a case.
>>564618643Report it then, lets see the janny do nothing as usual
>>564631309Here's comparing sales from both Archie and IDW
>>564631337*solve thr issue
>>564630905>The Silver/ Blaze special is just going to be Silver distrusting the royal guy, Blaze not trusting him, then Silver uncovering a secret, then Blaze being like "I should have trusted you".And at the end Sonic shows up and says: "Wow, you guys are truly in sync!"
>>564631316And another one
Oh yeah, Sonic has that McLaren sponsorship
>>564631446
>>564631065>>564631309>>564631541That's all before 2022 spike and DC crossoverDC issue had to be reprinted
>>564631541>annotated
>>564631065>>564631309>>564631541Somebody should post Demon Slayer sales for comparison
>>564631704>Sonic sponsors and F1 Team>that year new regulations forces F1 to be slower than it's ever beenSonic is cursed.
KNUCKLES!!!!!!!!!
>>564632027>Somebody should post Demon Slayer sales for comparison
>>564631337The entire franchise and every character needs a reboot. The functional roles of the characters have nothing to do with their actual characters now.Shadow is Sonic's rival, but why? Like why do they even have beef if Shadow reclaimed the title of the Ultimate Lifeform?
>>564631886>That's all before 2022 spikeLol>DC issue had to be reprintedAnd?
>>564632448>The entire franchise and every character needs a reboot.Again Iizuka?
>>564631337Make her the Guardian of the Chaos Emeralds or the Time Stones.
>>564632354>after another volume
>>564632932
>>564633142>Slam DunkHOLY BASED
You guys really want to compare the sales of some actual action series to a cheap melodrama soap opera comics?
Blaze the Nugget
>>564632448>Shadow is Sonic's rival, but why? Like why do they even have beef if Shadow reclaimed the title of the Ultimate Lifeform?They can't be rivals with the way their characters work. Sonic doesn't care about being the best and doesn't have anything to prove. Same with Shadow since his shtick is protecting the world because of a promise to a loved one. They can't reasonably clash. Not over ideologies, nor proving who's the best.
>>564632724That's stupid. The Chaos Emeralds were originally guarded by Chaos on the shrine with the Master Emerald.>Time StonesSo Blaze is from Little Planet now? So now she can only appear one month a year?
>>564633498>cheap melodrama soap opera comics?Is that what Sonic is now?
How different would it be if Tails sacrificed himself instead of Cosmo?
>>564633756>Sonic doesn't care about being the best and doesn't have anything to prove. Same with Shadow since his shtick is protecting the world because of a promise to a loved one. They can't reasonably clash. Not over ideologies, nor proving who's the best.They literally do versus each other. Shadow was the one guy that pushed Sonic to get better and Sonic is the one person to impress Shadow.
>>564633756And yet they controve reasons to have them fight for the sake of SA2 nostalgia baiting.This series is fucking dogshit if we are honest.
>>564631541>Comic market has increasingly become worse>IDW still higher than ArchieThis is actually the peak era.
>>564633816>So Blaze is from Little Planet now? So now she can only appear one month a year?Yeah. That's why she doesn't show up so often. And Tanabata.
>>564632027>>564632354Those numbers, while still very embarrassing for the American Comic Book industry, were in part boosted by the Cooooff lockdowns.However, instead of getting into a very gay "manga vs comics" debate, you have to acknowledge the elephant in the room: IDW hasn't released sales numbers for any of their books. Japan has Oricon and the Japanese Manga Publishers Association who actually release reliable sales and circulation numbers.https://us.oricon-group.com/news/7147/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_manga_magazines_by_circulationIDW (and the American comic book industry in general) does not do this. And because they don't, they lose every argument by default. Only small indie places like say, the Rippaverse or Coffin Comics release sales numbers.Trying to argue that the sales of say, Shonen Jump (which Demon Slayer is apart of) are losing to IDW Sonic is like saying you can beat a Nuclear Warhead with an imaginary spoon. You don't even have a real spoon to fight with.Now I'm off to read a comic full of violence and topless women: The remastered versions of the old Marvel Conan books.
>>564632571>lolit's the truth#50 was like new beginning>and?it sold well for dc standardsyou asked to compare it to other titles, retardo
>>564633756Exactly. Metal Sonic and Blaze are better characters than Shadow and Knuckles, from a structural point of view.
>Silver falls into some hole like Invincible did and gets a chance to remake the timelineImagine
>>564634214>#50 was like new beginningAnd?>it sold well for dc standardsWhich doesn't apply to IDW but DC, dipshit. DC already does better than IDW so it means nothing.
>>564634305Metal Sonic sure. Blaze not really.Shadow is strong enough to carry himself so he works. Knuckles is a good character but people want him glued to Sonic because of team branding.Metal Sonic can keep showing up as a token boss but his fans don't like it because it gets old and feels like he is underutilized this way.Blaze basically has all these characters issues combined.
>>564634541i didn't watch invincible, he seems like a fat jobber
>>564631104Just testing your theory. MOBIANS are built for humies anyways stupid fox.>>564633673Good artstyle, don't like nugget stuff though.
We love nuggets here
>>564634670The problem with Metal Sonic is the dude does not pose and has never posed a reasonable challenge to Sonic. The OVA isn't canon and it's by far his best appearance.
>shadow and sonic cant be rivals because they settled a disagreement once
Fucking pathetic how Demon Slayer solos the entire US comic industry. And it beat Superman and Marvel movie-wise.
>>564634670Metal Sonic is a chud and a jobber and his real fans love that about him.
Reminder: IDWfags want Sonic to be scared and wimpy, not just Silver
>>564631125IDW Sonic doesn’t even crack top 100 on the sales charts. TMNT is consistently around the top 10 to 30.
>>564634882>shadow and sonic cant be rivals because they settled a disagreement onceTheir characters don't facilitate it. You'd have to invent reasons for it to happen.>mind control>misunderstanding>tournament
>>564635027I'm in the camp that wants Sonic to show more emotional range, but not like that. He needs to be allowed to get angry again.
>>564634915$136 million domesticallyall these dollars came primarily from asia it isn't as easily comparable
>>564635027They have a humiliation kink
>>564635027The entire point of his character is that he's put together. These losers just can't accept a fictional character being better than them and want him dragged to their level. Total weirdos.
>>564631886DC crossover is published by DC. IDW doesn’t get anything from it.
>>564635170Dark Sonic was such a cool and creepy concept. Shame it was confined to Sonic X
>>564622216
>>564635084Shadow's reason: he is an insecure blowhard who takes every challenge seriouslySonic's reason: he is a fun-loving chadly guy who takes every challenge seriously
>>564635174Movies need money from the rest of the world to make a profit, dude. Not one can succeed with just the domestic cash. Understand?
>>564635069consult zipf's law, sonic sells half as well>>564635276no it isn't nigger, sonic is unbreakable, he wouldnt succumb to fake emeralds
When I see Honey fanart
>>564635027>>564635240Thats the archiefag that keeps spamming cp here. He doesn't like IDW.
>>564635251No it fucking isn't. I'm tired of diggers who only came to this series when Heroes was knew telling me who the fuck Sonic is. Shut the fuck up.
>>564634904Could use his mind powers to hold their bodies together in a hug. Unless his abilities come from his hands.
>>564635402>he is an insecure blowhard who takes every challenge seriouslyOoC.
>>564635476
>>564634758>Just testing your theory.I mean male BLOBIANS are capable of that, you stupid human!>MOBIANS are built for humies anyways stupid fox.I have a boyfriend, asshole! And he cums in me every night!
>>564635528>He doesn't like IDWEveryone who wasn't molested as a toddler doesn't like idw
>>564634880He's also an Eggman robot and thus will always feel lesser to Eggman. He isn't really his own character and his only trait is seething at Sonic. There isn't anything more to do with the character.Knuckles and Shadow at least have their own thing going on and expand the lore of the verse.Blaze isn't even really a rival.
Blaze just had to look for any spotlight she can get and leech to Silver and ruining him back to uwuver
>>564635618Tell me who Sonic is.
>>564635670>And he cums in me every night!LOL bitch you wish. Scourge is obviously a mega faggot who uses you to "prove" that he's straight. Sorry sweetheart.
>>564635668>Honey's pawsHNNNGGGG
Inorganic posts
Ignore this what >>564635670 said, archie fiona is OOC.
sonic females are meant for lezzing out :3
>>564635705This series is full of characters, but completely devoid of stories. That's the problem. There's nothing to look forward to when you see anybody in this cast.
>>564635914true
>>564635670uh-huh. are you sure your blobian boyfriend isn't just impotent fiona?
>>564635880>>564635668Oh my GAWD!
>>564635470>no it isn't nigger, sonic is unbreakable, he wouldnt succumb to fake emeraldsNTA but he didn't succumb to shit. He was still a good guy but more brutal.
>>564635027>>564635240Shit like this is why you gatekeepAlso>Translated from SpanishDisgusting
>>564635623Remember when Evan wrote Silver getting his hands punctured by Metal then he wailed cried for Blaze while at the verge of throwing up and passing out and was incapable of using his powers anymore?
>>564636082This tends to happen when a franchise has been going on for 30 years
>>564635970Shut up, Ian
>>564635276It really isn't.
>>564635835That's most likely a Satam fag who pretends the early 90s Japanese stuff doesn't exist
>>564636146That webm made me spit out my drink holy shit
UUUUUUUUUUU look at me i'm a brown fat wolf UUUUUUUUUU i can't lose weight and i'm lesbian UUUUUUUUUUUUUU my scissoring girlfriend got zombified UUUUUUUUUUUU...
Scourge only has sex with Fiona if she wear a Sonic costume, his mind is with Sonic too
>>564635794For how many times Blazefags say Silver ruined Blaze, it felt like projection because i always saw the opposite happening lately
>>564635623He can read books without his hands
>>564636186It also happens when the franchise is being a run a leader who particularly only cares about Shadow at the expense of the other characters
>>564636178Yeah, he's a total pussy.
Westfags have a lot of headcanons that simply aren't in the games. Satam, Archie, and IDW are all ooc crap.
>>564636583His next Shadow game better be good or I swear to fuck I will declare jihad on Iizuka
>>564635863
>>564635618> text-to-speech troon
>>564636583We really need to stop seething at other characters being more popular than your pet character. It isn't helpful.Shadow was basically a background character for 15 years lol
>>564630034>best art isn't the main oneI usally don't mind, but the one with Blaze eating and Silver as superman really makes no sense to me
>>564635670Yet you still aren't pregnant? I just think your pathetic MOBIAN bf is infertile
>>564636781And that was a good thing
Why do westerners try do hard to make Sonic into a "real teenager"? He's a cartoon. Let him be badass.
Not only is IDW era getting most content, the comic is selling more than Archie during it's 30 years run? Are you guys right about anything?
>>564636512Poorly handled Silvaze ruins both of them with the shitty nanny/baby dynamic that ignores both their personalities and lore. Silvaze is almost always poorly handled.
>>564636801What doesn't make sense to you? It sets the expectation for the story pretty easily.
>>564626127Sonic Prime happened. right at the perfect moment to leave fertile soil for Sonic 3
>>564636901I do think Shadowfags have a problem with the idea of Shadow not being shilled all the time. Most of their bellyaching prior to Year of Shadow was just them misplacing the fact that they aren't used to a world where Shadow isn't basically the center of the universe.But at the same time, being ass-blasted he is more popular than your pet character is just petty and doesn't accomplish anything.
>butt mogs your mobian sluts
>>564637037There is literally no such thing as good Silvaze.
>>564637037Silvaze was introduced to the world handled poorly and these retards still ship it. 06 is loved by the dumbest people I swear.
>>564636949POTATO!POTATO ROTATO PATO TATO IATO!
Ken Penders got paid $200 a page back in the day.
>>564637056Blaze is going to get fat eating fish while Silver flyes around?
Draw Shadow getting raped by Sally
>>564637025Westoids think main characters have to be like either Aang or Zuko.
>>564636114>>564636835...!But...Scourgey wouldn't lie about that...
>>564637374nuh oh gotta draw my OC!
>>564637247Yep
>>564635240I think most people don't get this.Sonic gets scared, he gets anxious, he doubts himself, but it's for a single fucking second, he INSTANTLY snaps back into "angry determination" mode because he processes shit thousands of times faster than most people.He doesn't wastes time feeling or getting knocked back emotionally, because a single second for Sonic is a shit ton of time he processes the motion quickly and then,m he defaults to action.He gets scared for a second, snaps back and then he ACTS immediately more focused.
>>564637421He 100% would. But after I impregnate you, both of you can raise that child together.
>>564637216Colors DS, JP Team Sonic Racing, Otherworld Comedy.(06 doesn’t count because it doesn’t do anything to establish them and still expects you to care about the sacrifice)Even when it isn’t being poorly handled it’s still not entertaining. You have to be into themes or ship them to enjoy Silvaze at all.
>>564636720We don't even know if it's going to be an expansion to a past game or if it's going to be made from scratch.>>564637184Iizuka is a Shadowfag. There's no reason to register 2 trademarks for one character
>>564637761>these are the examples of goodJesus Christ.
>>564637421Wow literally go back to sex edGuess I dodged a bullet lolDummy
Butch Hartman says that Timmy marries Tootie, but Timmys other creator John Fountain says it's Vicky https://x.com/i/status/2046690569825489194Just like how Yuki Nakah and Oshima disagree on if Sonic gets married
>>564637286Yes. Blaze is going to get sucked into some royal shit and tell Silver to go play at the kids table, and Silver will stumble around Epstein's Temple like a scared child and uncover spirit cooking or whatever.
>>564637286Blaze will be preoccupied with the host while Silver goes to explore the place. That's what it's showing there.
>>564636186buddy they havent don't anything interesting with Blaze since rush adventure, you really can't expect me to believe they run out of ideas after only 3 games
If you listen to Silvaze fags you would swear that this pairing was on the level of Tidus and Yuna or Cloud and Tifa.
>>564637980Why the fuck people ship Timmy Turner, I have never seen a girl being nice to that nigga in any episode of the godparents show.
>>564638084That's how bad Blaze is as a character, yes.
>>564638084We need to realize that these people just do not care. If you aren't Sonic or Shadow you don't matter.
>>564637421It's a relationship built on cucking people, (You) should know it!
>>564638139>on the level they are far better
>>564637980The ending of channel chasers makes it pretty clear he ended up with tootie. His daughter is straight up wearing her glasses.
why is there fanart of sonic with scars on his chest?
>>564638408They would have to do more than stand next to each other for that to be true. Silvaze isn't even Justin and Feena tier romance.
>>564638210Anon guess what
>>564637252That's more than retail makes in 3 days. What was the fat fuck moaning about?
>>564638328Shut up, Fiona.
>>564638139Silvaze entire dynamics can be compressed into the dynamics "I need a mommy"It's a pairing that is experienced by the POV of Silver, because not for a single second Blaze thinks "I need to be a babysitter".The same way Sonaze is a pairing that works on the concept "I can fix her", which is Sonic's POV, because Blaze's entire worldview is "I want to be left alone"
>>564638848Why do people still ship Amy with Sonic when she moved on and Surge is the only girl who can keep up with him?
>>564637980>VickyThe only real answer.
>>564638665None of us could believe this was real.
>>564638534Does Whisper kills Tangle baby and cheats on her? Honestly seems pretty in character for her
>>564638529The Fairly Oddparents did what Sonic Team is pathetically terrified of doing between Sonic and Amy. What an embarrassment to Sonic Team
>fiona goes schizoIt was a matter of time...
Miles
>>564638665Motherfucker.
Yuji Naka is kind of like Butch Hartman, except Butch decided to answer the obvious
>>564639163marriage means the end of the franchise. You are asking for impossibles
>>564638534chocolate wolf sex
>>564639065>This is why im not a fan of capeshit, they always pull the most depressing and/or mist horrible shit for audience
Vicky x Timmy is Surge x Sonic. It just works.
>>564638665Ain't that bitch like twice his age
Timmy is also a free spirit who isn't a hero but does whatever he wants and saves the day because it's the right thing to do rather than out of a code of justice. Except Timmy actually makes selfish evil decisions when he feels like it and Sonic is always morally good. Sonic got windmogged
>>564639439Then let Sonic and Amy tie the knot at the end of the franchise, whenever that happens
>>564638609Top surgery. Artist/s are mentally ill.
>>564638084They ran out of ideas with Black Knight, and then Frontiers. A lot of the post 2010 games between those selected few don't have anything to say. They're just thinly veiled justifications for nostalgia bait
>>564638881>Sonaze is a pairing that works on the concept "I can fix her"No that's Sonurge
>>564639487Crocker plowed the Vickussy, Timmycucks lost
>>564639590Kirby also windmogs Sonic as the Paragon of the Spring BreezeFunny innit’
>>564639523There's two episodes where the plot is Vicky falling in love with him and an unreleased third one where she tries to take his clothes off.
>>564639204Beautiful >>564638609Headcanon of Sonic being a trans man. Dunno where that came from
>>564639680They didn't run out of ideas, they listened to the people who told them they shouldn't use their ideas and just do nostalgia instead
>>564638665>I just realized Timmy and Vicky have similar colors to Wanda and Cosmo
>>564639775...it seems like someone wanted to confess something about their life through this show
Timmy getting married to the girl chasing him means that he failed to be a wind spirit like Sonic
>>564637980Vicky won>>564638529 Channel Chasers is meant to be ambiguous between Tootie and Trixie.
>>564639814Idk what they're doing but still very cute
>>564639850The ideas they had sucked
>>564640069Sonic is drunkBtw there's an unused love meter object in Sonic Mania, guess which character Sonikku loves most lol
>>564639850they also deliberately didn't listen to the people that told the the problem was rushed and low quality games. Nice selective hearing.Trying to competive with Mario instead of being themselves also didn't work
>>564640172Nah I liked them they're cool. If others don't like their output they can go enjoy something else
>>564639686It could probably be if he gave a shit, Sonic likes playing therapist to deranged women for some reason.
Amy already lost to Tails, but we aren't ready for that conversation.
>>564640154She has to eat that with her hands? That’s not very aristocratic
>>564637761Yes that's what I mean. You have to care more about the conceit of Silvaze than it's implementation or the characters to enjoy it.
>>564640376you have to respect the culture of the Sol empire
>>564640429...That's dumb though.
>>564637252>GigaChad Penders>Happily married father>Worked on many different popular franchises like star trek and king of the hill>Legally raped sega so hard it's yet to recover from it>Virgin Flynn>Childless 40 year old manchild>Only ever worked on Sonic fan comics where Knuckles was a fascist rapist and official Sonic comics where Shadow was a fascist rapist>Is forever cattle slave to sega, once they fire him he gonna flip burgers for the rest of your life>Only thing people remember of him is that he writes ever woman as crying lesbian and every man as fascist rapist
>>564639482Anime, capeshit, whatever media is depressing and horrible because humans want to feel and analyze, and this is also why Sonic has been losing the child audience. Kid-difying things pushes children away and Sonic has been doing that for over 15 years
>>564640294I forgot about that detail. Awesome!
>>564640553Yes it's dumb and it's why Silvazefags always talk about "exploring" their relationship to cope.
>>564640429You just have to understand the concept that Silver and Blaze are a team for undisclosed or undocumented reasons, it has nothing to do with lore or story or character, they simply are a team in a fourth wall breaking kind of way.
>>564637216>>564637761>>564640429>there is nothing good about Silvaze>except the game that stablish their hole relationshipkindly get run over by a car
>>564640429That's most shippers.
>>564640759>hole
>>56464075906 didn't "establish" anything. The game started and the "relationship" was already there, for as little as it was worth.
>>564640738This is the problem with literally every character>>564632448Like if someone asks "what's the deal with Silver and Blaze" pointing them to their Sonic Channel character profiles is pointless.
>>564640294>Btw there's an unused love meter object in Sonic Mania, guess which character Sonikku loves most lolWow, so>SonAmy is real>Fox is gay for Sonic>Knux has hope yet for the doctor and hates that hedgehogGuess this explains why Knuckles is easily tricked by Eggman at least, tho I can't say I saw it coming.
>>564640738It’s because of Tanabata. The entire concept of them together is a reference to the story of cow herder and princess from different stars.>>56464075906 didn’t establish anything about them that’s the problem. The story just dumps Blaze in the future with no context or explanation as to why she’s there or how her relationship with him works.
>>564641005tanabata is their relationship, it doesn't make sense if you didn't play the game
>>564635027they want Sonic to be deliberately unattractive
Sonic characters are mascot characters and only actually only good in a vacuum or in short form media like the Sonic Channel manga or cookbook snippets.
>>564641097Yeah it's kinda funny lol. Though Sonic's expression in the minigame is of tiredness when Amy is matched, while he's more neutral with Tails
Every conversation in this fandom is self inserting characterfags seeking validation from a media franchise rather than actual conversations about what works, makes sense or would be cool.
>>564641165You a day that as if Tanabata is in the game. It's not. She's just there for no reason.
>>564641097>KnuxEgg
>>564641165It doesn’t make sense if you do play the game. It’s entirely dependent on external context to understand.
>>564641162It wasn't man, Akinori Nishiyama himself explains what he was thinking when making Blaze, her whole duality concept is in relation to Sonic, not to Silver.
>>564641323The cookbook snippets are not good
>>564641162the reason why Blaze is there has nothing to do with it you moron>>564641374to be fair you need a high IQ to understand one of the most common romance tropes, moron>>564641430no? As if impossible romance was invented in japan
>>564641586>>564641586>>564641586
>>564641603I love this little comic
Sonaze is the Zutara of Sonic
>>564639482Invincible and boys are what retarded redditor manchildren who think "marvel is cringe" watch, because it 100% copy marvel movies but they just add rape, abortion or trump into the story
>>564641652We all know that Blaze was designed for Sonic but she is tanabata with Silver >But Sonic and Blaze get separated tooThere’s more to Tanabata than getting separated.
>>564641372What would be cool is all of these characters doing cool things on their own and with each other. What makes sense is this will never happen, and Sonic will never reach the potential of what it could be without a complete wipe of every person currently working on the franchise
>>564641843That's what comic books already are thoughever
>>564641924This is the Sonic the hedgehog series. it isn't about our pet character. These characters are meant to be supporting characters to Sonic. This isn't a flaw or the series "sucking Sonic off too much". He's the main fucking character.
Blaze is a Mary Sue
>>564642208It was the Sonic the Hedgehog series. Now it's the Sonic needs his friends to survive as a franchise series
>>564637025>Why do westerners try do hard to make Sonic into a "real teenager"? He's a cartoon. Let him be badass.They're obsessed with applying realism to everything and refuse to just have fun and enjoy the adventure.
>>564638990You're still here. Well, I'm dipping again.