Rem is fucking bodied Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>564553660
Remove parries.
>>564639367Billy...
>>564639245lil nigga od on that fent frfr
>>564639367you have a goat for a head
Sex with Venator
>"hey guys, let's go and split push!!">"nope, sorry">team only pushes one lane, so the enemies just split push our side lanes and win the gameIsn't shit like this why split pushing is a necessary evil?
>>564639367Rem____________
yoshi only 15 minutes agobros...?
>>564639442>>564639454Eat shit parry abusers.
rem is fucking dead
>funny guy on their team gets a funny idea>"hey guys let's split push">i get a pick because i am a serial rapist and shaggy though splitting the team up was a good idea>we get mid boss>now we're going to walk up to your base and dunk the free urn because it's 6+3v5yep just another ez game
>>564639743>mf says 'shaggy'fake scooby fan. shaggy hates splitting up, and it was usually fred, daphne, or even velma at times that suggested that nonsense
>>564639968get his assmy nigga shaggy would NEVER
Patch cancelled, Yoshi’s flight got delayed
dey cn hid buh it wun maturr
Victor is for Ivy, and Ivy is for Victor!
>>564639968based shaggy is a deathballer
>>564639743split pushing is good though if the enemy team has a tendency to over-reactyou're supposed to be careful and passive until you've drawn the enemy out though
What does silly bing bing wahoo bounce pads have to do with a midwestern sheriff?
>>564639743ok but what is stopping the enemy team from eating your other undefended lanes because you wanted to farm tiktok clips with your team?
>>564640330it's a supernatural world so a sheriff needs batman gadgets
>>564640462if a team with 50k soul lead because they played objectives starts deathballing there's nothing your splitpushing can do. >you take walker>they take your entire basegood trade
>>564640247ivy makes victor's heart skip a beat and victor gets ivy rock hard
any other buffed frontline hero that let me press w like victor or q with abrams?Lash looks cool
>>564641003the guy is a reanimated corpse, so shouldn't his heart actually beat a little here, before going back to not beating at all?
>>564640247This unironically is the best ship in the game Ivy even asks him out on a date not LOL LESBIAN SILVER X CELESTE EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE LITERALLY 0 ZIPLINE INTERACTIONS
gay sex with apollo!
>>564641116same thing can be said for mina and paigelike I don't get why the most popular ships actually have no fucking chemistry or cohesion at all to be found other than people going,>ohh lemme mash these kewl-looking action figures into each other ooooo
>>564641110>reanimated corpseto better understand victor and frankenstein, its a living being made out of someone picking and choosing corpse parts and sticking them together.he is alive, his heart beats and he is aesthetically pleasing thanks to that
i love victor
>>564641519Hello, Ivy.
>>564641505huh. neat
>>564641080MONKEY SMASH
>>564641117HE'S 18 YOU SICK FUCK
>>564641713sir that's a rabbit
>>564641803you crack me up little buddy
>apollo is 18>graves is implied to be of the same age>but>what if new info came out stating that graves was actually underagedhow many fucking reddittards that love shipping the two do you think this would enrage kek
How did I get most player damage!? I'm playing fucking Rem!
>>564641674hello
>>564642190>cheats
>>564642235They look like they eat hotdogs together regularly.
>>564642190>plays support>doesn't buy a single utility
>>564640915>splitpushing is bad in situations where it's baduhhhhh
>>564641713>>564641803looks like a fat version of goofy to me
>How did I get most player damage!? I'm playing fucking Rem!>spirit burn with a heavily spirit-invested buildare we just engagement-baiting at this point
>>564642585you are a philistine sir, good day
ALL mods are cheats.
>>564641960i dunno, more than half of them?they get mad whenever you mention celeste calling pocket he or that celeste/holliday and silver's interactions aren't as flirtatious as they paint it or that silver has shown more interest in male character like venator, victor and may or may not have been really close with abrams in the past
IN HERE I AM KING
>>564642874>white dot
>>564643285if you want a dot, buy toxic bullets like the rest of us, you filthy cheater
>>564643285Valve is not perfidious enough to implement this.
>>564643285Rat wizard hero when, friend?
never allow rem unrestricted access to your sinners
>>564643285Based.Mods = Cheats
>>564638607Wasn't even that. Enemy team was too busy brooling so it was a free push for all three walkers.
>>564641117what graves comes home to after a hard day of talking to corpses
is Ivy "sexy"?
>>564644738MR ADVERTISER GET DOWN!
>>564644865I simply asked a question, anon
>>564644738nobut she is ugly-cute
>>564644738yes
>>564645141yikes...
>>564644738look at the amount of porn deadlock has ivy partakes in the majority of it
>>564643842Thanquol fren its been 10 years. You need to let go...
>>564640247Beauty and the beast LOLOLOLOL
>playing paradox>Dynamo ults one of my teammates>think I can save him by ulting Dynamo away from him>Swap doesn't stop his ult casting>ulting Dynamo ends up right in the middle of my team>we all die
>>564644738She gargoyle on my stoneform til I tether everywhere
>>564645429I want to lick her teeth to be honest
If you play Shiv in brawl you're actuallly a nigger
>>564644738You bet
>>564645552I'm gonna be real honest with you, I would have DCed over some shit like that
Dynamo just had the time of his life
>ivy won the Victor-bowlSay it isn't so...
>>564641713gigabased skin
>>564646059while you're standing there doing literally zero damage lol
>>564646289To be fair Dynamo and Victor take an immense amount of skill to pilot in Street Brawl
>>564641080Wait unstoppable prevents a parry stun?
>>564646456Who take the most amount of skill in street brawl, then?
>>564646289thats not true, i had my aura up and pressed a Q
>>564646572Billy bros we're back
>>564646717traditional moba player spotted. your ass is grass
>>564646643the heroes i play
with all the cc spam this game is getting they might as well make the lash ground pound bug a feature
>>564645382He's coming soon, friend.
>>564646572Not quite sure, the stun gets prevented by the legendary item, it just gives unstopable buff after
>>564646643Definitly Mina
>>564646572yes but they still don't take damage, it's why unstop is core on Billy even with a built in version on his ult
>>564645552>play mo>bebop hooks me>ult and kill him before he even puts a bomb on meI don't typically shittalk but I had to hit an all chat Nice after that.
You wish you were this good.
thinking about getting into this game but i'm tired of moba players.is it possible to play this game not in ranked and just have fun without everyone being butthurt with each other for 30 minutes straight?
>>564647949The fuck is that icon next to your rank?
>>564647949>more commends than games playedIncredible. Anyway why are you obsessed with this idiot?
how to do a fist build vs. non-retards who parry?
>>564648013the game only has a ranked mode
>>564648254Bait the parry by flicking your mouse around them, buying unstop, or playing punch haze.
Dynamo players really think they deserve to live
>>564647949damn man that's crazy
>>564646643>headshot abuseyikes
>>564648097its the statlocker logo because this is some dude obsessed with a tranny posting their profile, not the tranny posting it.
>>564644738>garGOYlei vey
>>564648831maybe if you call them a tranny you won't look like a simp
>>564642265What cheats?
>>564649153The fuck are you saying? He called them a tranny.
>>564647949can you stop spamming this? nobody cares about who this guy is when he fucked your gf
>>564649587>spammingthat word doesn't mean what you think it means
>>564650315you post the exact same image about another player your mad about in every single thread with the exact same post and its not even on topic
How are you actually supposed to kill Lady Geist when she has ult this is so retarded
>>564648256beg you pardon?
>>564650842kite?
>>564650842Silence her lol
>>564650842You die. Then you respawn. Then you kill her
>>564650873there is only one queue for the main gamemode, and it uses your ranking to match you with similar skill levels. the ranks are obscured by default but most people turn them on in the settings
does split shot work as a shotgun or does only 1 bullet hit?
>>564650957the silence doesnt last long enough>>564650924explain how to 'kite' an auto aim life suck
>>564651093maybe i need to wait until it's released and they add casual matchmaking
The enemy gets dynamo and he ults non stop I get dynamo and he ults a single lash in jungle as he's alone and then gets murdered by 10 people
>>564651218>bring her down to 300 hp>silencing wave does spirit damage>use ability or shoot herI know its hard to grasp but the window of oppertunity is there. Same against yamato players.
>>564648254you have to mind game them. pay attention to their parry habits. the most important thing: good players parry when they think you are going to melee. so you have to condition them.for example good players parry dash a lot because you can't follow up with a heavy melee if they don't get a successful parry, they will be too far away. mid level noobs (oracle/phantom/ascendant) are retarded and parry when you get close meaning free melees because they are still close after their parry. get close and they will parry then you get free melees. you can also intentionally miss quick melees and sometimes this works to bait, especially if you're billy because he has fleetfoot on quick melee.character specific interactions are important too. if you are billy then players parry when you're reloading or after you hit them with rising ram. shiv players quick melee after dash. same with calico and pocket, they melee after satchel and cat dash. so if they parry after these abilities then wait and then melee them, if they don't then condition them by meleeing once or twice then they will get scared and parry again. final thing: if you see someone charge a heavy melee you can get a free heavy melee on them without getting parried *if you're quick enough*. this will make heavy melee baiters piss themselves because your heavy melee is guaranteed, theirs is not.
>>564650315>>564650439
>>564651818i actually just bought focus lens and fucked her up thanks for the advice i thought it wouldnt work but hey when you're right you're right
If you told me I could have sex with Geist but it would kill me I would still do it
Imagine.
Has thou taken thy spirit pill yet anonymous?
>>564650842Pray that she is a retarded, brain damaged numbskull who went spirit since her output becomes pathetic with that build after 20 minutes.Otherwise nothing since the hero is moron proof.
Billy is actually really fun but im at shitlows where people dont parry facetaking a hyper beam and beating the shit out of bebop is hilarious
>>564649301All mods are cheats.
YER DEAD
>>564652686
>>564653320What's she doing down there?
>3pm hits north america>game is now unplayable below ascendant
What do I even do on Calico late game? Early game spirit burst is fine but its just an inconsequential amount of damage after 30m. Sell it all and go melee? Go melee from the start?
>>564651319Does it really matter if there is no distinction?
How to stop starving on Drifter? I either roll or I go 1/7
>>564652686>>564653320LETS SEE WHAT THIS COCK CAN DO
>>564650842>pressure her like an idiot>she Mal'Ganises me>we kill her anyways>if anyone asks, i just wanted to waste her ultheh>>564653320could literally hold her up by her waist with one handPaige and Mina sissies beware my lane
>>564653636Calico and Silver suffer from the same issues pretty much, they do nothing late game and their early/mid aren't impressive enough to decisively win gamesBeing real, you do your combo on the target most likely to get killed and watch as the enemy carry does the same to you while your team is hopefully doing something.
>>564653850>consistency issuefind a safe median
>>564653663no, and modern matchmaking games should just drop the split between "unranked"(mmr hidden) and ranked(mmr visible) anywayspeople play the same on both queuin every game
Silver...put the bottle down...think of the calories...
>>564654103Feels like I should just build her extremely tanky then instead of damage
>>564655221Build spirit burn and scourge on calico. Silver on the other hand just give up.
>>564655378I don't play Silver.
>53 games played as Sinclair>16 wonDo I just give him up at this point? I love playing him but I just can’t seem to win either.
>>564655751Donking people is somehow better than using his kid
Riot might not make a separate Deadlock game, instead, all focus and development has been shifted back into LoL Next/Reborn with a new engine and complete overhaul. classic mode or top down will be available for another client or just play the mobile version. theyre trying not to compete with themselves, following what happened with 2xko, but liked how people responded to characters and the LoL title itself. Instead Riot will just take LoL itself into the 3d map third person perspective with all new changes to how they see "moba" as their deadlock. most of the engine itself is from the no longer in the making LoL mmo OR it is made in the same engine to promote it's future.
>>564655751If you're trying to use the bolt just stop rather do a rabbit punch build/ult bot build the bolt is not worth using at all
>>564655880>than using his kidHENRY NOOOOOOOO
>>564655751you just need to get better gamesense and how to turn the other teams ults against them, or turn farm till you can nuke with your 1.It sucks to suck as Sinclair but that's because either you're the ultimate nightmare or basically a non-issue.
>>564639467Calm down Mina!
>>564655898Does Riot think moving the camera over the shoulder is all it takes to make the game like Deadlock?
can i replace majestic leap with veil walker on pocket
>>564655898I don't think they can manage the top down perspective, just a shift to WASD which suits their game better since it's shed most of the RTS roots it had and bills itself as an action game.
this hero isn't boosted at all
>>564656208expect it to be more like deadlock and less like smite
>>564656364yep absolutely nothing wrong here
>>564655898>RiotStopped reading there. This is a thread for VVhite men and Silverbergs, the doings of chink slaves are not relevant to us.
>>564652763>ascendant game>high spirit team>only ONE person on the enemy team has bought spirit resist this is why every rank outside of e6 is shitlow
>>564656634Bruh just stone form the bombs and you are good
>>564656691a lot of league sisters exist here, enjoying the game, fully converted, or just patiently waiting for their version
>>564656992Too many posters call our ritualists "champs"
>>564656364>>564656634mmmm... yes... quite... quite terrible indeed
>>564655751>sinclairhe isn't a simple character, he is similar to shiv in that you either need to study him or do a lot of repetitions before he has high efficacylike the fact his bolts can be spammed like crazy to the point you can just ground bolt people while shooting them if you get rapid recharge + cdr or the fact he can charge a melee and teleport with it still going off isn't straightforward.
>Team mate with low HP runs into enemies under tower and dies, but I can at least avenge them with 1 kill>Later does the same thing and fucking dies to Lash throwing them into Walker>Retard decides to follow me around as if that's my fucking fault and even Rescue beams me into the tower, refusing to ever help me in fights>still gets MVPThis game is retarded.
>>564657240>sinclair uses my team's ult better than my own team does.
>>564656813bebops don't build for bombs anymore. they're all on gun builds. all of them. they literally get 60% weapon damage for just hooking you and pressing uppercut
>>564657240also now that i'm sitting here and thinking about it, aiming sinclair bolts is probably the most fucked up thing in this game, I'm keeping a mental note of where they should be after i dump them into the air based on the travel speed and current time elapsed to sink them into blind corners sometimes using my knowledge of the map geometry to find a good place to target my fucking camera at a long distance while hopping around on him like a spastic to get the right shit visible
>>564657769my bad. I forgot everyone only plays fotm builds.
>>564657765also on sinclair I go out of my way to rape people with their own ults just because its funny
i really like toxic bullets on ivy and infernus.are there more heroes that are particularly good at pissing on someone from a safe distance with M1 to give them every single debuff in the game?
I really need to stop playing on weekends
>>564658185It's partially that and it's also partially down to the fact counterspell cucks bomb so hard. I actually have to wonder why people don't just build for ult. Sounds way more terrifying than mcginnis even.
>>564657240>or the fact he can charge a melee and teleport with it still going off isn't straightforward.>get a sinclair melee partner in lane>he does this and gets parried every fucking time because you can hear him charging up a melee with an assistant positioned right next to an enemy>goes 0-5 and goes roaming to feed some moreyes incredible tech...
>>564658786>i really like toxic bullets on ivybut why? the build up is horrendous. you're better off just spending the 3k on capacitor rush.
>>564659162I hate playing against beambop. Absolute terror in the early mid game because his ult has a 60 second cooldown with a single skill point and imbue'd cooldown.
>>564656364>>564656634ivyfags eat shit
imma play only 1-2 games today and try out different vidya... surely
>>564659439toxic bullets come after capacitor rush, which triples the amount of targets that get poisoned if i shoot into a crowd from far away.there's a teamfight? better not go in and help my team with kudzu or my ult. lemme just cast thorns into the middle of the crowd and m1 one underneath one of the red hp bars until i get kills or assists while taking 0 damage.it's not a smart way to play, but it's a fun one. i still get >40% of my damage from pure gun, but if you have a fast weapon with chain lightning hits, you might as well stack more debuffs on anyone hit by the lightning.
>>564658786mcginnis I suppose fits
Hear me out...Spirit/melee hybrid haze dagger/punch build
>>564660031I demand you cease using that Geist skin. She is a classy woman and you insist on dressing her up like a cheap whore. Be better.
>>564660364already been a thing for over a year, shitlow
yay i love infernus :D
>>564660364>>564660510>Hear me out guys, Black hole Dynamo
>>564660428you're absolutely rightthat's her outfit for her monthly visit to the ghetto
Can't wait for the monthly Graves humilliation ritual>Gets ok buffs>"YOOOO WTF BROKEN GRAVES TOP 1 S+ TIER FRFR WATCH MY YOUTUBE VIDEO NOW NOW NOW">As people get used to the buffs and remember graves is still graves, still fundamentally dogshit and her winrate starts dropping, she gets hard nerfed>one week later she's back in dogshit raped useless whore territory>Repeat one month laterBonus humilliation points when (not if) they hard buff several of the permanently problematic heroes like Haze/Infernus/Abrams/Mirage/Wraith/Lash/Mina/Shiv/etc and then don't actually nerf or do much about them when graves gets hotfixed
>>564660753that's a child you freak
>>56466078218 year old sweatie
>>564660782I will be making children with her yes thank you for commenting.
>>564660039>toxic bullets come after capacitor rush, which triples the amount of targets that get poisoned if i shoot into a crowd from far away>you might as well stack more debuffs on anyone hit by the lightning...after capacitor + ricochet?
>>564660753Graves is fine exactly where she is. If you think she's useless its only because the current S-tier is too overtuned. Go after them instead.
your teammates after your rank up game sir
>>564660510>>564660640Ok how about...Pure spirit Drifter
>>564661142>Graves is fine exactly where she isYou're out of your fucking mind, if this kind of hero is at 48-49% wr on all ranks stats then she's dogshit.Here's her E6 winrate tooSo>Complete dogshit on low ranks when she's an IQ check hero>Complete dogshit in top ranks where even the best players can't make a more niche hero work>Complete dogshit in pro because she brings no utility, no damage, no tanking and all her abilities just feed souls
>>564661442also already a thing but not as good now with new drifter
paradox is so fucking fun and i actually feel cool and skillful playing here, i was afraid to touch her for the longest time but my aim has gotten better so i can actually land carbines now
>>564661624WOOOO 19 SECONDS TO DEAL 400 DAMAGE WITH GLASS CANNONshit ability
>>564661521>not as good nowyou mean much better?
>>564661935i dont play glass canon but carbine has to be one of the most satisfying abilities in the game
>>564661454nigga everyone can't have 57% winrates at the same time. 48.6% is literally fine. If you play 100 matches you win almost 49 of them. Its fine.
>>564662096>48.6% is literally fineNot on this kind of fucking hero and not on the ranks where she's supposed to actually work even when she's at her worst.If the IQ check hero can't even perform that well on the low ranks full of retards to abuse then she's on a horrible spot.
>>564661017highdocker's gun build, which i was following, recommends not to pick it unless you're at 50k+ souls.you allegedly already have enough ways to proc debuffs on a crowd, but i won't let that stop me. thank you for bringing this to my attention.
>>564662283I have a sneaking suspicion that you were crutching hard on Graves when she was OP. Now you are malding about how you can't just hold W+m1 to win matches.
>>564662734I don't care about your retarded suspicions, either debate my point or shut the fuck, why is the IQ check hero not even performing well in the low IQ ranks?How, if she can't even perform well there and performs like shit everywhere else, could anyone say she's fine?If you wanna go down this route I'll double down on your retardation and say I have a sneaking suspicion you're like phantom 1 peak and get somehow filtered by this awful useless hero.
>>564662996You are schizoing out hard my dude. If Graves is not performing then what do you call all these heroes who are performing worse than her? Graves is fine.
Why is Venator so much fun when he's arguably the most unga bunga CoD-coded m1gger hero in the roster?
>>564663561You're using all ranks data on tracklock which is inferior to other sources and those heroes are not walking IQ checks unlike Graves.That winrate also keeps dropping everyday because of the factors mentioned above, you don't lose 4-5% winrate and 15-20% pickrate and dropping if your hero is fine.All her builds are bad, her stats are bad, the hero is bad and broken in the bad way at a fundamental level, if you don't understand this and somehow believe she's not getting hard buffed next patch (which will just continue the cycle until we get reworks) then I don't know what to tell you, you're beyond help.
>>564664048AestheticLET ME BE STAINEDIN THE BLOOD OF THE WICKED
it's funny how a thread of alchemists talk about balance at eternus like they'll ever be there in their lives
>>564664048kino design and has like 2 kino abilities but deadlock devs can't actually design or think of anything fun and unique so it's all wasted on a hero you love to play when he's good and powerful because of that but feels like boring useless dogshit when he's not, like many others because again these devs suck dick
>>564664072Gorth, my friend. We can't keep doing this. Please take your medication.>>564664217acktually zhe is ritualist
>>564660428It's okay, only I can use the skin you know. She dresses like that just for me.
>graves players
>>564664328don't bring up my name niggerI'd never do>le red dit spacingyou giant faggot
Seriously why is it always Vindicta AND Grey Talon on the same team? It's just a guaranteed lost
>>564664573>A 2nd graveschizo has hit the generalyou dont need to pretend to be two people just for me.
>>564665112faggot I'm playing the game right nowI even paused it just to respond to youDo you really think I'd be crying about Graves' performance when in the past I had wanted fewer people to play her? Think retard, think.
>>564665112How can you call anyone a schizo when the moment you see anyone saying the 48% winrate hero is bad, something almost everyone agrees on, you instantly start saying they're the same guy/the actual schizo.
Mirage still exists...
>>564664798those are the two complimentary counterpart flying sniper niggers
>>564642190You are the reason rem has dogshit winrates>Pick support hero>Build nothing but damage>Siphon all sinners and farm on the map with buddies for your meme build>ERM WHY MY TEAM NO DMG?
>>564642190>no slowing hex, knockdown, curse, disarming, ANYTHING>fucking LEECH
>>564658972>Drifter mega feeding>Silver mega fedAnon... Post the results
Counterspell should stun
>>564666120The sinners were promised 3000 years ago
>>564666347
>>564666456stun who? the user?
>>564666720>losing to silver embarrassing
Every time I go gun Ivy I'm usually the one with the highest soul amount but I really fail to do anything with it compared to spirit
>>564666907A 0.003% interest rate saving account has better scaling than Ivy's gun.
i wish i could play on na, the eu lobbies are so quiet
>spam one character>try to branch out and try out other heroes>get literal zero comm teams that suck shit at macro and spend the entire game baiting me, probably a 5 stack>shit winrates on all those characters nowkill me...
They should bring the 4 lanes back in a new game mode next big update
Decay rules!
>>564666781the idiot who got parried
They should add a captcha for parrying so you can't just parry script.
>>564667549>hyperline: 4how does this happen?
make a melee character whos passive is invinciblity to parries but when he melees he is unable to use stamina/wall jump for 5seconds so you have to kite around him
remove guns, abilities, items and parrying
If you steal my sinner, I simply will stop showing up to team fights and just forever farm. CBAToo bad we won
>game suddenly puts me in a match like 2 full ranks bellow mine after a 3 loss streak and its the easiest match in a whileSurely valve wouldn't put eomm right?
>>564656779Man I'm sad no one commented on the 3 obj damage miku. She probably accidentally grazed the guardian in laning phase with a single bullet.
another weekend is here! i'm glad i'm off work so i can play more of my favoriate character rem!
>>564668862Add the melee legendary as purchaseable item for all modes
>all CC ults are point and click or huge AoE>holliday it's literally a shitty projectile that doesn't let you do shit but move and jumpWho the actual fuck thought this was good? They just saw batrider and think it would be the best shit in 3D but without giving anything else that batrider has? What the actual fuck
>>564669224>remdeserved
>>564666652Why did the artist BLACK mirage? He's some variety of sandperson not a Dravidian.
>>564669224Don't worry, I came prepared; creature.
>>564669641its a better mo ult, whats the problem?
>>564669641And paradox ult is literally a worse bebop hook, it's only okay because of carbine... Another skill gutted just because it makes her ult okay................
>>564669641who cares, holiday can click someones head twice and come out on top of damage with crackshot
>>564669641>holliday it's literally a shitty projectile that doesn't let you do shit but move and jumpDon't forget that the Holliday is moving around like a maniac and makes it impossible for her team to actually attack the person she's carrying. Then the Holliday will complain about how her team didn't take advantage of her grab (LOL imagine having a grab as your ult when Bebop is a thing)
why do retards say deadlock is the "hardest" game where shit like factorio pynandon exist
>>564669935>acts tuff>has m*na, s*lver, redditmo and redditvin on his rosteryuck
>>564670357This>>564670057It's not a better Mo ult.
>>564670389literally what the fuck is that you obsessed autist
>>564670407I was playing with a lower rank friend so I selected by lower rated heroes, well aside from Mina but shes always banned.
>lane against wraith>she gets fucking destroyed 0-7>15 mins later>as 15k more souls than everyone elsewhy does this always happen
>>564670389go back to your autism simulator games>>564670637she farmed up, you didnt
>>564670389>py>hardIt's literally just an endurance test.
>>564670637LIFTING!
OPENING BLACK HOLE!
deadlock would be saved if silver was a kumiho
>>564671339True!
>>564670637>black woman has to be 10x better than everyone and completely unstoppable to have any chance of making itsounds about right desu
>>564671793I wish she was in dota2 the superior moba, qop and storm are fun but don't scratch the same itch.t. 2k game LoLgger
>>564671054is this Project Neon? It looks like SMNC lmao
>>564671054I wonder if was 3v3 because they were experimenting or because of player pool size being small.
>>564671339>>564671793On one hand Yamato should be a kitsune, on the other hand her pickrate would fly into the moon and make her impossible to consistently get
I'm going to go insane. How do you have 5 deaths in lane before the 5 minute mark against SEVEN. The ESL mongoloid "kidnapping" doorman managed to win and pretend he was good from his favela for a couple minutes because of it. That's unforgivable.
who will win
Playing Paige in Brawl and getting enhanced rescue beam
I am still playing bell nuke Doorman.
>got 2 legendaries in the same round>one enhanced>still lose>go up a rank
>>564672981>rank>sbhuh?
>>564673023yes, it's ranked now
>>564672426>I am still playing the only viable doorman build
>Doorman nerfed into nothing >Shitters STILL manage to rage over getting kidnappedThey won't be happy until Doorman is outright removed from the game
I will continue doing high prio on doorman forever, I just love this funny little guy
>>564669712people pretend like rem is a dishonest character when he's literally 35% winrate dog shit
>>564673372I have already posted on Reddit and the forums, sry doormens....
Graves attracts some of the worst people, in personality if not skill level
>>564673849He is a dishonest piece of shit, his winrate is only that low because of retards playing him with tik tok gun builds that eat up all their team's farm.
>>564673372>>Shitters STILL manage to rage over getting kidnappedit's just a gay as shit ult>can't counterspell it>can't unstoppable it>banished for like 6 seconds>come out and the fights over or the enemy team has set up a rape dome around you>if your ally is using it however it'll literally wind up saving whoever he's banishing half the time
>>564673849yeah thats why i hate fucking seeing him on my team. Taking all the farm away from the team and being completely irrelevant
>>564673974I'm an eternus support player with 55-60% winrates on all my usual picks. Rem is like 25% winrate over 16 games. He's a worse dynamo. Maybe it's different when you're stacking but he is unusable dog shit in solo queue and that's the real test of a hero.
>>564673934>troons want to larp as a teen girlyeah no shit retard
>>564674162>He's a worse dynamoevery character is
Anyone have a good Holliday build?
>>564674482not a soul on earth has a good holliday build
>>564658185Dispel/counterspell cucks bomb and his gun got buffed, so gunbop has returned.
>>564674482yeah not playing a throw character
>>564674482trophy collectorgolden eggmystic reverb
>>564672117it is 3v3 because the discord groomers want to keep their secret club small
>>564674263It's just complete dog shit. Like I pick Dynamo and get surge of power rapid recharge headhunter recharging rush and I'm like raping the entire midgame on top of having an already absurd kit. Then I hop on rem, I pick up cold front, silence wave, curse, knockdown. I use them completely effectively, I hit up 3-4 people with each of them, curse the carry, knockdown an ult, use my sleeps and catch 4+ people, land my pillows, steal enemy sinners only, apply map pressure with pushing waves before we initiate fights. like I think I'm doing everything right and just CONSISTENTLY he doesn't do enough in fights apparently. Like why would I bother playing rem and bouncing around like a spastic and landing my sleep only for it to 'disable' people for 0.1s before someone wakes them up when I could just go play ivy and web echo people every minute. He's total dog shit and needs to be reworked entirely.
hipsters still be playin bombop no cap luhmao !!!
the only good gunbop players are m1ggers because bebop mains can't aim for shit
You can do a lot of fun stuff with marks
>>564674918m1gger egos are out of control
wtf does FF stand for? "Force Feed"? I can't think of anything else that makes sense in the context people spam it
nice bait
>>564675613forfeit
MISSING: Lilah SilverLAST SEEN: In secret SSSS++ tier
>>564675778ohbut then why do the people who spam it immediately begin racking up as many deaths as possible if they forfeit? shouldn't they just afk in spawn if they've given up
>>564676017they aren't very smart, if they actually wanted to forfeit the game they'd just silently grab the urn and forcerun it or start attacking the midboss until it lets out the party alarm
>>564675027>9 stacks>14 minutes>teams are even>ascendant lobbyfuck goin on in there
>>564672328220 stacks loss
>>564657765this is the greatest early indicator that you are going to lose guaranteed.
>>564676315>pocket drifter feedingoracle lmao
>>564676294ascendant is where you go when you don't do anything risky and just wait for retards to make mistakes except you're high enough there's only 2 retards in the game total, and if there's 0 nothing happens
>>564672981>>564673023>>564673208No fucking wonder MM is busted beyond redemption, so many boosted animals from nigger brawl.
>dynamo on the enemy team>the game is a guaranteed lossI don't understand why this nigger is allowed to be as busted as he is, other characters got their knees hammered within days of being buffed for much less.Atleast his dota 2 equivalent was just an ult bot that didn't do 1 quadrillion damage, lots of mobility, team-wide invulnerability on low cooldown that can disjoint skills, CC and also healing for some reason while also having the best ult in the game.
>>564676315>the team with a player damaging obj winswoah
>>564673849>>564673974I love chasing him Rem after he solo ults me, watching him desperately run towards the little tunnel only for it to close on his face as the ominous echoes of rape resound in his tiny little head.
>decide to play street brawl and queue random for fun>I'm the only one who queued random and everyone else has queued their mains and are sweating their asses off>stop queuing randombrawl really needs to be looked at again because the subhumans who play this game have methodically sucked the life out of the silly mode already. heroes should be random, enhanced and legendary items should drop much more frequently. its not ranked, the matches are short, who cares? well a lot of people apparently.
>>564676315ive seen vindicta gts get 20+ kills and still lose because they're shit chars
>enemy carry dcs>enemy runs out of pauses>win a teamfight, we can win this game now>enemy carry comes back>lose gameFUCK
>>564676965it doesn't matter, if you queue random you get extra rerolls which means you are going to be stronger than them bro
>>564676689No, the dota equivalent could just triple CC you with a q and get you from 100 to 0 even without any ally close
>>564676965People on my end play brawl for fun. You being a shitter really is a (you) problem.Do you think people should start missing abilitys on purpose? What even is that braindead argument always. >Someone plays better than me so he doesnt play for fun
>enemy team does shit early game>they manage to get comeback urn >game is back to even souls even though they were objectively horrible for the last 10 minuteswow........so this is the pinnacle of valve game design.......i kneel...........
gg just lost a game with a 30k souls lead because the whole team wiped to an urn, and a drunk husban decided to leave the game. Then his whore wife as well some random ended up leaving too.I'm done with Deadcock for today, this game is an addition that only attracts mentally ill (including me).
>>564678078thats just scratching the surface
>>564678117>playing on the weekend without a 6 stackyou've done this to yourself
>>564678117*husband*addictionSorry, I have a migraine. Gotta take some pills. Stress from this dogshit game doesn't help.>>564678309I invited 3 of them on discord just so I can spam slurs at them but sadly those type of people never accept.
how do i climb out of low rank?
>>564677959really struck a nerve there huh? its street brawl man no need to take it so seriously its not even ranked relax bro
>>564678545*steam, not discord fuck me, I cannot think anymore because of the headache. Gonna leave the game and /dlg/ for today.
I love this game
Love playing as my main Silver and murdering people I've been doing so good lately
>doorman just tries to kidnap every game>but this is emissary so he's horrible at it>manages to kidnap a single seven once in a 40 minute gamedoorman is basically the spiderman of this game
>>564639467
>>564648013Get good or get flamed and filtered
>>564678078can anyone else think of a mechanic that's supposed to be complicated that actually gets worse the better you are at the game?at pisslow no one cares or it results in like a 2v2 but in eternus if you don't fight tooth and nail for the urn for 2 straight minutes light punching each othergaming the comeback souls, how impossible it is to contest a 10 min comeback unless you deny pickup, having to camp the urn for minutes
>>564678563play lots and lots of gamessometimes in this game, even if you're chain losing, you'll still rank up. Perks of playing during the alpha when everything is WIP including matchmaking/ranks.
>>564678823you cheating nigger, kys
they should just remove the incoming damage tab. it hasn't worked for over a year now just remove it already and put it back in when they finally fix it (so never)
>>564678563just keep playing, all the rank does right now is clump people of similar mechanical skill in such a large amount of games that you can't even tell you are getting better
>>564678563just get better lolbut generally the same way you get out of low rank in any game. identify your weaknesses and improve on them. and play enough games to climb
>>564679489>is that... IS THAT A TIMER?? AARGH IM LOSING MY MIND AAAAAAAAAARGHfailed the IQ test
>>564679995>his weakness: retarded nigger team mateswow!
>>564680132>failed the IQ test because I don't wanna cheat in a video gameplease, end your life
>>564678117>spirit geist>less kills than someone with less than half her damagetypical
kidnap should be removed. The cart shouldn't go through the door. Y/N?
>>564680140back in the day victor could carry 5 feeders but then reddit had their say
>>564680140if your weakness is "MY TEEAAAAM" you're probably as retarded as the dude i queue with regularlyand the issue is you're just dogshit and coping
I love playing Paige and having my gock slurped for supporting my teammates
>>564680506>muh killsgo back to MR
(you) are the only constant btw
Teammates are only an excuse for weak people. These people only play teamfag shit when they hate their teammates because in 1v1 balanced competitive games they have nothing to blame for how shit they are
>>564680545>leavers don't exist>retards don't exit>it's not a 6v6 game>you don't get raped after other lanes feed their carryshut the fuck larping nigger, you don't play the game
There's no fucking way this nigga just posted street brawl games.Actually he mains abrams and plays street brawl all day so I can believe this level of retardation.
>>564680808>plays two most faggy character in the gameplay a real character like Haze or Wraith, niggeryou are not human. I hope homeless butcher you tomorrow
It doesn't make much sense to rush Mcginnis's ult anymore. Atleast not for me. Lightning scroll is also inconsistent as fuck.I'm going wall -> turrets from now on. Also rushing Echo Shard.
>>564680693same KP as them as well, maybe you would have a point if they won or he had any obj damage
>>564681021do w/e you want shes a throw pick rn
>>564680687>Not having your gock in permanent chastityNot a real Paige main.
>>564681125wtf....................
>>564681112idk nigger, watch the replay and judge him if you want
>>564681008>haze >wraith>he plays carrys and complains that he cant carry his teamanother dellusional montage player carry.you play carry so your job is to carry, if you cant then you just suck.
Why does nobody complain about Seven? He has the highest win rate across all tiers (down in Eternus but he's spent more time at the top than at the oh-so-terrible third place) and a good pick rate too. Is it just because losing to a Seven feels right? Like 'ah yes, he is the carry character and he has farm, it is only natural he wins. At least he wasn't raping my ass in lane.'
>>564681246no need
>>564681315Because everyone been complaining about him for so long that we just kinda gave up on any meaningful nerfs
>>564681247>ape yappingyou are not a human, stop responding
>>564681315seven has a very straightforward and easily counterable kit
is mina unironically kinda trash?shes strong early and mid game, but late feels like she seriously falls off a cliff and cant really do much damagelast game i had 70k+ souls by the end and still lost, i tried to carry but i simply couldnt do enough damage
>>564681578it looks like she's performing about as well as Silver right nowso yeah not great
>>564680821like i said, cope
>>564680687that's my girl
>>564681578no, she is broken and I feel like people don't understand she is just building stacks so you can shit out her ult while floating around/repositioning
Tried to play Drifter today. Lost 90% of my games
>>564681728>as well as Silverits funny because they have the same types of issues
ADD UNSTABLE CONCOCTION TO THE MAIN MODE!
>>564676294Idgi is that a little or a lot?
>>564682049you don't have the rapist genes....
>>564682176I wish it would actually do damage, it just kills the user
>>564675791She's lost in the Baroness forever...Eternal brunch........
>>564682049yeah cuz hes pretty bad rn
>russian with TTV in name>they're dogshit and retardedWow who could've predicted this
>>564682409how did he go from S tier a few weeks ago to bad? serious question
>>564682537change to his rend made his lane worse, idk beyond that
>>564682507In my experience everyone with TTV or VT in their name is a retard and is likely also griefing your name by playing with a stack of simps that suck at the game. Good luck carrying that 1v11!
>>564678078i'm just tired of retard teammates handing the urn over>enemy runs the urn and no one contests>ally runs the urn and thinks they can somehow dunk against four people>i run the urn but no one rotates so i stand there like an idiot waiting for literally anything to happen but of course nothing ever happens so i don't run the urn actually>the enemy takes midboss, runs the urn, and destroys our walker all within 30 seconds because man oh man i g-g-g-gotta get those Sinners baybeeeeei legit just had a Graves who fed like 7 kills, two urns, and then abandon the game before 20 minutesthe funny thing is we had a huge comeback and could've totally won but whatevs
>>564682049thank you for FEEDING, drifterbro
'eaded to bloo
>>564681578She's very very good, she's not even mechanically hard but she requires some level of not being retarded with your positioning which is simplified even further by having 3 bat dashes now but unfortunately she's designed for gooners and gooners are at most only capable of playing braindead characters like graves
Why won't Valve let us flame feeders in game text chat and VC?
>>564682718How specifically? NTA but I feel like the swap from ranged melee to spirit is interesting and let's you more reliably use items like mystic burst in lane, but melee lifesteal slightly less
>>564681315His point and click stun is OP but in a stealth way where most of the playerbase is too dumb to understand why that's such a strong thing to have.
>>5646821849 stacks @ 14 minutes but both teams are even is kind of silly yeahthat's a lot of stacks for how early it is and for the game state to be like that
OP carries need to exist because i got put in initiate and it is up to me and me alone to do every single objective and 1v6 the enemy team if i'm to get out of shitlow (i am not exaggerating, i genuinely have to do this if i want to win my games
>>564683736BRAAAAP
the road to dashfernus is paved with fools trying to make gun work
>>564684070It's so simple though, shoot enemy, light em up, press 2 to run at them, press 1duration, T2 spirit, toxic and you win the fucking game and you only get stronger and stronger
GET ME OUT OF THIS ELO RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!
>>564683471im not a drifter player, thats just what I have heard here for the most part. If someone plays drifter says something different I would trust their opinion more
>>564684070at least hit 4.8k spike with fern bro
>lose 2 games in a row>rank upit's just that easy
>>564684310>Gun Rem>Gun Abrams
>>564684673Gun Rem retardGun Abrams can in fact, fuck people up
>every other hero>abilities scale with souls, m1 heroes that are 20k behind are useless>doorman>souls don't matter, perfectly happy to spam carts, silence hex, slowing hex, and ults>pulls the same weight whether he's 20k ahead or 0 16what was yoshi thinking
>>564684807>he hasn't recognized supports are currently successfully coasting off money rubberbanding to the point they are getting away with rarely interacting with the pvewould you prefer doorman gets crammed back into the ratrace cuckcage with everyone else?
>>564669641Hero champion mystic design was different back then, auto aim and all four abilities functioning as escape were a while away.
>>564681378>muh carriesabrams is harder than seven lolcand hazte is just 1 button press wow
spiritsissies complain that gun is too strong yet the most fun gun character get relegated to AOE expansion duration extender slop character like every other spiritnigger
>>564684807>anon discovers supportsyeah the whole point is that they can give up farm and still be useful
>>564678823>cheatsdeserved to lose
>Dynamo is likely 70+ years old in the 1900s>Speaks like a 21st century metropolitan pop-sci nerdAlright
>>564685093I'M DOING IT
>>564680808nobody gives a shit about you playing a broken character in jeet brool vs literal alchemists kys
>>564684308the issue is looking at the damage graph and seeing your dash to get near them did more damage than afterburn and toxic bullets combined, and base afterburn does less damage than pre-nerf toxic bullets so you're building EE and boundless anyway, better stop wasting time and just invest those souls into spirit and dash t3 already>>564684517I used to get titanic and burst fire at least but his gun damage is so laughably low even 100% gun damage isn't doing anything
I just picked Silver, lads....
>>564685194mad cus bad
>>564685093billy
>>564682507>>564682732you forgot the bit where they stream with no delay and 'coincidentally' there's 6 people watching their stream (IT'S THE ENEMY TEAM).
>check the #1 drifter on the leaderboard>FPSL Hydration>go to statlocker to check his games>this buildI really have a hard time seeing the QSR vision. I can understand if he's using it to initiate and spike his firerate + rend damage, but the reload is useless at that point.
>lose game>the most dogshit low damage player who is also on a carry is on my team AGAINThey don't even try to hide forced 50. They have the same agents working doubleshifts back to back to throw my games
Just had one of the worst games possible 50+ minutes with a team who didn't know how to counter a smurf kidnap doorman for some reason.
>>564685189>SCIENCE CAN GET PRETTY WEIRDSpoken like a man trapped in a metal cage for decades
i think graves is cute
>>564685251you're german you're mad cause you're country is being taken over by shit skins and you're all brainwashed by jews for 70 years straight to be pussies about standing up for yourself. good thing you can do so on an anonymous forum though.
>>564684807The farm race is one of the worst parts about mobas, because it's essentially never up to you whether you'll be able to slip ahead.
>>564684807that's how support worksalso doorman needs 5ap in 2 of his abilities for them to be good, so he's still boon reliant
https://gamebanana.com/mods/626127Viscous is now playable
>>564685093celeste calls people normies, they don't care about the time period since the first 6 hero update
>>564685093almost like he's a self-insert dadsona for one of the devs
So why does Wraith just get to be the strongest character in the game with 4 never miss 200 damage cards, a get out of jail free teleport, 1 button extra DPS, and an unreactable, unescapable pull that gives her an easy target?I thought stuff like Dota was suppose to be insanely in depth and balanced and was also made by Valve. Why did no one stop to think that anything in this game was a bad idea?
>>564685826>dadsonathat one is new
>>564685984skill issue
>>564685984I feel like wraith is pretty shit right now compared to other m1s again, but she still isn't bad
>>564685984Yoshit is retarded. In Dota carries are weak early and okay at mid game so your strength by timing matters. This is honestly a fundamental problem with the game, it's pretty clear heroes are being made with roles in mind but the balance is done as if roles don't exist...
>EU matchmaking>Faggy westerners getting offended anyone would lust after a 18 year old child>Russian subhumans mumbling curses whenever they feed, sometimes yelling nigga to trigger westerners>Brits thinking banter is being a rude prick and making unfunny jokes, will make the worst calls>Autistic Germans & Scandinavians flaming their team for making the worst callsAlthough most of the time communication is done exclusively through pings and voicewheel as to not start international flamewars.
what character counters Infernus
>>564686337characters that do not come in contact with the ground at the moment
>>564686337WE HAVE YOU NOW
>>564676614>PHANTOM STRIKE>CHARGING>YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT OFF>[gargled screeching baby death throes]Name a better feeling. You can't.
>>564684430No, the change to spirit made his early to mid game more interesting. For a hero that plays for his spikes, you want to have that phase be interesting.
>>564640915>Defend base>LoseMay as well split and hope something retarded happens e.g. their important heroes leaving
>>564686317i need you graves..
>>564686596Meant for>>564676875
>>564686317>I'm a pedophile btw
>>564686317time to come to NA white man
>>564686894>I'm a sodomite btw
>>564660963any source for the image?
>>564687024reverse image search it nigga
odds goon evens deadlock
>>564684807>every other herothere are atleast 10 heroes like that, dynamo can be 0/100 and he an still single handedly win the game.that's literally what support/utility heroes are, strong abilities with little to no scaling.Also, there's no excuse for not trashing doorman now that they made countering him ez mode with dispellable carts.
>>564686317if she's 18 she's not a child>>564686972why would you want a faggy, whiny bitch-boy? you're brown btw
>>564687391>if she's 18 she's not a childPerceptive
>>564686670>more interestingand more worser
>king burger can't wrap his head around the fact that graves is not realgenuinely a "how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast" situation
>>564676294>>564683487My current strat for Drifter is to go for really early ganks. Keeping an eye on neighbouring lanes to see if the enemy is pushing or injured. Note the time. This often lets you get the jump on your own lane opponents as they'll push thinking you're gone. This shit can backfire though because you might end up quite poor if you fail and your lane exposed
>>564687443it was purposely loaded language (bait). I pointed it out so it wouldn't seep into anybody's subconscious and essentially disarmed it.
Graves is real and shes my wife
>>564687730you tell em silvergod i love her
>>564687730
Why do so many abilities have an infinite vertical hitbox?
do you ever have a game that you die +10 times and the enemy completely cucks/counters your character and you just want to kill yourself out of shame
>>564688323>vic ult use to be a cylinderI 'member>>564688386This happens frequently for me on the weekends during soloQ
>>564685791I thought you were bullshitting anon but nowtf kek.I mean, from what I can tell the word 'normie' originated from the 1950s, but not in any actual ironic, negative way. It's only until the 2000s that people started using normies as a real insult
haelp meh delivah dis ting
>>564687895why is she so... flat
wtf we are losing? never saw this one coming
>>564687680>rotating 2 minutes in for a stackIT WONT MATTA
>>564688526Pretty sure normie is the normalfag version of normie that was distilled from here. At least I saw normalfag a million times before normie came around.
dey tookout dat patetik ecksuse foa vampaiah!
Maybe Spirit Drifter is the play? Spirit is really good for early to mid spike, and he has infinite gun scaling anyway. Of course, you still get your 4.8k gun with toxic for the mid spike (toxic scales with spirit), but it's all spirit after that.
>watch eskay dynamo gameplay>"uawwwww the silver is chasing me!!!! >:3">lash yelling at eskay,>"COME UP COME UP COME UP">lash explicitly says he can't help eskay if eskay's still underneath blue>doesn't fucking listen and ults as dynamo anywayis eskay actually a good eternus player?
why not green Drifter?
>>564688730i should've went to bed
>>564689331forgot to mention eskay died immediately after ult'ing btw
>>564689340>>564689129fuck
>>564689331boosted troon
>>564689331not your twitch chat nigger
>>564689393try bepop, hes better than vindicta
>Wah mos of mah vikdims unduh age of kuhnsend? Kuh ah don buleev in kuhnsend
>Skirmishing in lane when they decide to randomly dive>Lane partner ditches>Pushing side lane with a teammate, 2 people show up to contest>I get gangfucked in a 1v2 when I engage because my teammate ditched>Get a lead and use it>Teammates who don't have a lead use the diversion I make by playing the game to ditch me so I can diethe single most fucking frustrating part of deadlock is how many times I die because my teammates ditch meI have to play like a spineless coward the entire game because if I try to be proactive I get ditchedditchedditchedditched
>>564689806What is even the context of this cat pic?
>>564688730>Silver>Least farm as usualIt's funny seeing this shit character being unable to even defend a walker due to having zero wave clear.
>>564689331if a eternus player doesn't move onto amateur comp they are just playing casually or boostedits a valve game literally anyone can join a team and play for little bits of money easily with tons of events all the time for it
>>564689806Dying in lane is not a big deal, before 6 minute respawn is fast, after 6 min you get a speedboost.If two people suddenly show up to engage you in a sidelane you can be assured the rest of their team is coming to buttfuck youIf you want to fight pick up the urn, gank a sidelane, enemy jungle, get lucky in mid or fight under a walker, simple as.
>>564690068what... the fuck? I don't remember writing desuwhat the fuck. what the actual fuck I did not write 'desu'what the fuck???
>>564689806this is so vague. most teammates in this game will not ditch you without reason, unless your lane parter or your teammates are throwingyou prob need to look at minimap more
I need to relearn to ignore my team brooling and focus on farming. Every match I do fine or well in lane, get ahead, then lose that lead trying save my boneheaded teammates and suddenly it's 20min and I'm 5-10k behind the highest souls
>>564690178Newfag kun "to be honest" is filtered to desu along with søy and a bunch of other relics before this site was fully turned into a barely maintained fed honeypot.
>>564686317>He doesn't have voice and chat muted
>>564690356SO I'M NOT CRAZY
stalker should scale based off spirit
stalker sucks stop buying it!!!
stalker should have a 3200 upgrade
i buy stalker in a graves/rem lane, not for efficiency but for roleplay
>>564690178Holy fucking newfag. Go back to discord bro
>>564690178gen alpha GOD...
>>564691178for me? it's mina. she's built for rape
>>564691081I wont
>doorman on my team>he goes for the funneh kidnap build>places down ONE door>never places another for the rest of the game>deals less total damage than the support>0/18/3Just fucking remove this character from the game already
i mean fuck i'd take discord over reddit any day of the week
>>564691693just remove any character from the game when someone has a bad game on them in seeker
>ONE-MAN ARMY>go 0/13you fuckers told me hes the most braindead nigga in the game
>>564691081movespeed goodi will continue buying it
>>564691693>because of one bad doorman player, all good doorman mains must sufferYou seem quite stressed there, Anon. Hm. Perhaps a lovely trip to the Baroness would ease your mind?
>>564691878>get qsr slowing bullets slowing hex>only put points into 3 >8 minutes>start roaming like hellThis is the most fun way to play Warden.
>>564691878I wish I knew how to make this character work, my aim is really bad but still I felt useless all game and my ult just tickled them
>>564689630they're not...similar?
>>564692018more fun ≠ must-have similarity
Damn
>>564692349She's a child for fucks sakes...
>>564691943fleet foot is like four times the speed of it or you can go slowing bullets and suddenly going fast doesn't matter if they go so slow even I could aim at them
>>564690042Wish there was an item that made heavy melee charge fasterLegit the only way to clear waves as her shooting them is a complete waste of time
STOP THIS MADNESS! SHE'S 18 YEARS OLD, YOU SICK FUCK
>>564692002dont click 4 on warden its a bait
>>564692389>She's a child for fucksi know
>>564692349source?
>>564692389She looks 20+, and is at least 18 in lore. A proper Adult that can vote (but is a woman so shouldn't). That's why I had posted it, retard-kun
>>564692389she isn't real calm down nobody can hurt the cartoon video game character
NA graves be like
>>564688720She's not flat, she's modest
>>564692708the only honest herogenuinely only 2 abilities because shield also doesn't do anything
EU graves be like
>>564693086FULLYMODELLED
>>564693086she's perfect
African graves be like
>>564693393sauce
>>564689806some people just refuse to follow through on kills, or help when there's a fight breaking out 15 meters away>on yellow lane>hear someone stealing Sinners>swoop in to hopefully catch them on low health, or at least stop them from stealing our shit>another enemy joins in moments later>fight for a good 15-20 seconds before i die>last thing i see is my laner standing at the doorway, still farming troopers under our guardian>they finished off the Sinners>they went back into lane and murdered him 2v1 while i was respawninglike i'm not a pro gamer but lmao these clowns should not be in the same rank as i
i can't stop playing this fucking game
>>564691081>50 bonus health>80 spirit damage>wallhacks>+6% more bullet damage against target>move speed>effectively no cooldowni don't know, that seems pretty insane early
>>564691878It's time to change the world.AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEE
>>564693431ngl graves as a traditional african voodoo shaman type sounds sick
>>564686317paige should look like this
>>564691878They need to rework his entire kit ngl. Not just the model design and lines. They can't decide if he's supposed to be a pure damage m1, or a mage, or a brawler.
>>564693446https://files.catbox.moe/ufw8vi.jpeg
>>564693607it's garbo for anyone who doesn't know how to play post-8 minutes. otherwise, it's an insane item for its price.
>>564694074Oh.Well, I appreciate you providing it, at least.
>>564694012I hate Warden's ult. Genuinely wtf is it supposed to be >He uh, he shoots out a big ass cone but can also perform his other normal actions like shootingHe needs to be a proper ALCHEMIST, not whatever we have now
>>564694261>it's garbo for anyone who doesn't know how to play post-8 minuteswydm?
>>564693431i like the other blackification mods like the paige and celeste ones but this one looks like shit desu
>>564694293They have all these lines for other characters about him having insane willpower and fighting to the end but I think they'd be better giving him something like Alchemist's ult from Dota 2 maybe with resists that scale inversely to his current health than Abram's 1 but you have to slowly telegraph it.
>>564694293He throws potions to weaken enemies and drinks the strongest potion fit only for the strongest beings
>>564694293>He needs to be a proper ALCHEMIST, not whatever we have nowThe concept for both warden and pocket were supposed to be more edgy superheroish vigilante setups.instead we got a british cop and a trenchcoat wearing asian man who instead of is mysterious is a tranny
>>564684807Except that Doorman suffers from the unique problem that money=xp in this game, and he's the most xp-starved character in the game. He's the only character who actively needs all tier 3 upgrades, but you basically have to pick two to actually have for most of the game. Every Doorman is always playing at half potential becausse he's so xp-locked
Have you ever had a game where your team is doing really well in the early to mid game, you get some urns, push some stuff but then the game's first teamfight happens and you lose despite being 15k ahead and you realize your team can't teamfight worth shit so you just proceed to lose 3 more teamfights and just lose the game
My wife Celeste! pegs me every night with her fat horsecock!
>>564693126Nah, shield use to be able to give you about 1000 HP at max. After the rework it's less, but it can help you survive
>>564694074giwtwm
>>564695165Silver...
>>564695165it's not pegging if its her marecock
>>564695109Yeah quite frequently because I know how to play the first 25 minutes pretty well but team fights are just a mess for me.
when are they going to gigabuff the old cast to keep up with new heroes? all the carries got gigabuffs to stay competitive, when are we getting built in reverb yamato to keep up with apollo
>>564697096holliday will never get buffed and hovering her when draft comes out will result in you being flamed by your team for throwing.
>>564697096haha good one anon! Well get right on that haha
>>564697096Most of the old cast needs to be replaced entirely desu. Talon, Shiv, Warden, Paradox Haze, Miku, Yamato, and Kelvin should be just scrapped entirely. Some of the newer ones like Holliday, Mirage, Vyper and Doorman need to go as well. They just don't have a place in Deadlock anymore and can't be redesigned to fit in with the current aesthetic and gameplay no matter how hard you try.
>>564697547you are genuinely retarded
>>564697652he's not wrong seekerschizo
>>564697739>we need to scrap half the roster because they dont fit the anime highschool aesthetic of the new batchlmao
>>564697806If you don't see the writing on the wall that's on you.
>Warden's all in close range kit is badly designed because it's not just 4 Gun-Scaling abilities with a good gun or 4 spirit-scaling nukes like new heroes!retards
>>564697851lol theres no way you actually believe that is going to happen
Is brool's matchmaking beyond broken today? It's giving me the most insane stops back to back. My teammates and I just get instant melted and can't do anything.
>>564697096nigga half the oldtroon cast is S tier OP rn.if anything the OGNB release cast need buffs. especially my wife.
>celeste needs buffsthe state of this thread
Boot kick op please nerf!
why don't we just scrap the six new heroes as well, celeste said "normie" so this doesn't fit the aesthetic. Let's scrap the new york location too, it doesn't fit the aesthetic, lets move it to a fictional fantasy setting and scrap the walkers since they don't fix the aesthetic, lets replace them with two men fucking or something, that fits the aesthetic way better. This is clearly the direction deadlock is heading and if you cant see the writing on the wall that's on you.
>>564697547retard>>564697652retard>>564697739retard
>>564698034>scrap the walkersthis is literally going to happen though
>>564698008strong and cute boot to the face
>>564698072retard
>get a literal initiate in my ascendant 1 game>enemy team has an eternus 3 on their teamgud game
scrap new heroesscrap walkersscrap parriesscrap mods (aka cheats)
>>564698034The walkers dont fit the aesthetic. What are these huge sci-fi mechs doing in New York? And the term normie has been around since the 1950s
>>564698000she objectively does.>>564698034they should change the setting to san francisco. da bay > cold concrete shithole
>>564698226those aren't ingame ranks or ingame mmr, those ranks are from the site's own rating system
Im really tired of stepping into Black Man's Trail and fucking losing 800 hp
>>564698290well, it's according to my own personal tastes of course. Again, if you can't see the writing on the wall that's your fault!
>>564698332>step on fire>get burnt for it
old 4 lane map had a better aesthetic unironically
Everywhere I look, I see people DEFENDING how shit this character is. I'm talking one-tricks, hundreds of games played with a sub 50% winrate, BEGGING for him not to get buffed.What exactly is the explanation for this psychosis? Is it just the low elo effect?>but he gets your ult on a lower CD!!!!Yeah, and he trades an entire functioning kit for it. And he can't even use half of them properly- not to mention you have to get within 2 feet to steal. Enemy picked characters with a lot of range? Congrats, now you have l half as many ult options.
/dlg/cord is raiding again. Great. Thread's dead.
>>564698226how did he do
>>564698393It did
>>564698295>sam altman's gay sex hovelno
>>564698451>not to mention you have to get within 2 feet to steal.You forgot to add that he's squishy as shit
>>564698451I agree that he needs a rework. but Sinclair IS pretty strong *IF* you know how to play him and aren't retarded. that is a HUGE if. most deadlock players are retarded.
>>564698647>implying bloomberg's personal bug eating fiefdom is any betterLOL!
>>564698451yeah his bolt should be hitscan and have 10 charges. the bolt should have an execute. the bunny damage amp should be +50% and have 20sec base duration. he should be able to spawn 8 assistants at once, be able to place them on the minimap.
>>564699102This. The prime example of this is Shiv. Everybody builds him identically, yet what's the difference between a 20/2 Shiv and a 0/11 one?
>>564699117oh please you can't even get off the plane in SF without contracting AIDS
>>564697096>all the carries got gigabuffs to stay competitiveexcept victor haha
9 minute queue times...
>>564699265bro just buy pr+is+vj+tt and hit your shots bro his gun build goes hard frfr
>>564699158He's so strong that the hero carries shitters to ranks way higher than they should be, that's the difference.
>>564699361>9 minute queue times...>he hasn't realized there is a ghetto role queue in the game yet
C&C!
*approaches you*
>>564699661I'll admit, it is pretty cute.
>>564699102Yeah, and Venator is pretty strong if you have at least one synapse between your finger and your brain so you can hold the heavy melee button after your gutshot to instakill people. You see the problem?
>>564699795>Debuff reducer>Parries you
>brooltard victor keeps flaming me for clearing side lanes and killing 2/3 walkers instead of joining the retarded nonstop brools in blue lane>have by far the highest objective damage on my team in the end
i like seven soley for the fact that he can ult 2nd phase patron and we can end the game 5-10 minutes earlier instead of waiting for another midboss
>>564698451>Enemy picked characters with a lot of range? Congrats, now you have l half as many ult options.If only he had an ability and itemizations options to help with this
>>564699925Good job shooting at walls retard
how do we even know mina is asian? she could be some sort of balkan person
>>564699795oh it's you againit's impressive how consistently retarded your posts are
what race is celeste supposed to be?
>>564700169her last name is "ha"
>>564700538horse
>>564700538Jersey slag
>>564700546well she could be called mila jokanov and they wouldn't have to change her model
>>564700598you're not saying she has a "you-know-what" down there...
>>564700636>>564700169Wyte pepo at it again trying to colonize asian things
the humble warden remains unnerfed very good
>>564700636even in asian animation white and asian characters look identical.
Draft check, guess who won (easy mode)
>>564700790>a-anime characters look whiteuh huh thats why they have names like takashi, a normal white sounding name right
>>564700875Jokes on you the Vindicta is a Chink with autoaim cheats
i dont get why people dont hide inside their walker's legs more often. you're literally invincible if they're outside of walker range and can easily clear the creep wave
Deadgame
>>564701105Jokes on you, I was vindicta
>>564700924yeah they unironically do, it's called whitewashing
>most popular ships are apollo and graves and pocket and minaWhat does this mean?
>>564701557most people like normal looking couples instead of beastiality and monster fetish shit
>>564701557hmmm I'm going to go with "fuck all"
>>564701557shipping is retarded shit for women who gives a fuck
>have 35% bullet resist>haze does bullet dance and in 2 seconds I get killedwtf happened there?! 2k hp to 0 in a second
>>564701557most shippers are women, which we already knew. Further evidence, most sfw art is those two pairs, but the most popular nsfw art is ivy, who only appeals to male degens like the person reading this
>>564701673You witnessed the high skillfloor carry gameplay>press 1 button>win
>>564701673as a haze player the only way this happens if she's fed as fuck (or extremely late game). if you have equal souls you can just dash jump away with more than 50%hp every time>>564701723half the roster can escape or stun her with one button, so
>escalating exposure>toxic bulletsyawn so fucking tired
The Baxtah society saved mah life, and now I'm gonna save yours
bullet res is a meme item metal skin is unironically way better IF you can kill the m1gger during the 5 second immunity period. if you need to flee get warp stone>>564701673
gun paige.think about it, sisters <3
>>564702259annoying in lane because of giant bullets but a nonissue after ~10:00
bebop's kit so weird. why does he have a hook to pull you in but then a punch to knock you awaylook at pudge all his skills are synergistic with his hook
I FUCKING MISS WRECKER
'eded to grenish
>>564702496You can turn while someone's hooked and they'll get pulled to the other side of you where you can uppercut them even further away from where they wereIf a bebop can land hooks consistently he can spend the entire laning phase throwing enemies into his tower everytime his hook is off cooldown
>>564701860Extremely based item combo on DRIFTER especially since that hero is Toxic Bullets: The Hero.
Pumping for Mina
>>564700660yes I am, she has a winking, wet, mare pussy
>>564699661devil wife...
>>564701673haze needs buffs btw and she's C tier now /dlg/ told me so. who am I to doubt this general's high rank players? (oracle)
>>564702808big
>>564702508wrecker, slork and old calico had the funnest kits in the gameThey should've just made the cat turrets not have infinite range + duration for no fucking reason or at least capped the amount you could have so you could actually have wards in some way.
is this a lying faggot leaker or a "has gotten at least two things right" tier leaker
>>564702496>why does he have a hook to pull you in but then a punch to knock you awayfor the bomb combo obviouslyat least that was the original intention
You shouldn't be able to parry light melees
>>564703042He's an engagement baiter from Poland trying to get his daily $10 of Elonbux
>>564702902she would have been A tier if they just changed her ult to cone. she didn't need all those other nerfs
>>564701816Every game goes to "extremely late" the game isn't allowed to end before 40 minutes
need a seething billy jak
>>564639245>losing team comp diff but you know, got to play the match honestly>tell team to buy slowing hex, it counters 4/6 of the enemy team, they do not>seven aggressively tries to deliver urn despite a disadvantageous wave, initiates two (2) team wipes and gives the urn to the enemy>mcginnis says "my team sucks" while going 1/9I swear to god Archon is harder in every way compared to Oracle and Phantom. I don't want to see these lobbies ever again.
>>564703956if your seven is running urn its over just afk
>>564703956Archon is where all the animals are.
>>564704218This fucker would deliver urn, yell and drag four others with him, die to a black hole team fight, then type "gg". And if first time wasn't the charm he did it AGAIN.I don't want to flame my teammates but get me out of these lobbies, I get punished for trying to learn new characters and am thrown into purgatory. I'm sorry Valve for not just abusing the meta pick the fifth patch in a row.These games feel like low priority.
>>564656779you don't counterbuy when your behind hahaha shitter self report
>>564704316but if i survive 4 more seconds it will surely turn the fight!
>>564703956>>564704307>When I just get to the next ranking, I'll finally have lobbies where all 10 players are trying to wingenuinely are you like 18-22? Every single ranked competitive team game has baited people into spending hundreds or thousands of hours trying to get to the mythical rank where every game isn't ruined by 1-2 players trollingI know that Deadlock is forced ranked but you really shouldn't get tricked, the games will NEVER improve in quality
>>564704480True.Even Eternus has boosted animals 6 stacking or people hard carried by aim alone. I should just play a different game if I want strategy or cooperation.
just won a game as seven and didnt ult (i only use ult defensively)
>>564703956oracle is the worst rank to be in and im not just saying that to despairbait you. Everyone I know that graduated to eternus/ascendant are in consensus its the worst because its like archon but its harder to 1v11 every game.
>>564699679posted the abrams image award
>>564703042Project 8 is bullshit 99% of the time, he's only posting this because there were updates to test server version on Steam.
>>564704681His ult is legitimately dogshit until it's maxed out and you have EE, maybe you can use it before that point as a zoning tool or to get a confirm with the lightning bolt when you're out of ammo.
>>564705139He's trying his best!
doorman player found in real life
>>564704480tactical truth nuke...
>>564705134Its technically dogshit until you can race the incoming damage, so its EE OR spirit lifesteal
People here need to realize once you get past the genuinely retarded ranks you get into the ranks where people "know how to play" but their stupidity is replaced by ego and main character syndrome leading them to>Go nah I'd win against a bad matchup>Initiate stupid fights and scream at you for not backing them up>Park in a side lane because they got pissy in laning phase one time and have convinced themselves they need to afk farm as they are the main characterThis shit happens even in Eternus, but it starts around Phantom
>start having a win streak because the dash infernus that just presses 2 and autowins is on my team instead of the enemy oneThank you, yoshi. I won't waste this boon.
REMOVE PARTIES FROM THE GAME
>>564699128....and he'd still be a tier below infernus, mirage, abrams, and dynamo
>>564706403You have a goat head.
>>564698226Statlocker has its own ranking system it does not perfectly represent actual in game ranks. "Higher" ranks are also overrepresented there because>Higher MMR matches are easily tracked>Higher rank players actually upload matches and use the site, most players below Phantom are gonna care enough to touch that site>The distribution is also likely inaccurate, because the ranked distribution only tracks matches PLAYED and "higher" mmr players (Phantom+) are going to be playing moreSo posting screenshots of that site is proof of nothing>B-BUT MATCHMAKING IS SHIT AND MY PHANTOM LOBBIES ARE ACTUALLY ETERNUS PLAYERS WITH SOME EMISSARY PLAYERSNot denying this at all, this might be the worst MM I've seen in any game I've ever played, just pointing out Statlocker is not the most accurate. I've even seen profiles on there where players almost exclusively upload matches that are just wins to make themselves look better. Its only real use case was to see when you were against stacks, but Valve hid that for whatever reason
>>564701557because it's cute nigga>>564699661more pls
>>564706293Gunfernus is better
>>564706541I don't know what they did but his dashes are absolutely fucking absurd right now but all I remember from the last patch that touched infernus was like +2 afterburn damage, which doesn't affect flame dash.Whatever, flame dash infernus is a really good combo with abrams because I just arcane surge ahead of them and suck the everliving shit out of them as I charge them back into the shit puddle.
>>564706541Not anymore
BRING BACK MELEE INFERNUS
>>564706676infernus and vyper are good because haze/wraith/victor got nerfed to shit. i guess wraith is just decent now
It's so demoralizing playing Calico now, nobody can end the game because every team has 2 late game gun carries that want to "get their build off the ground" and you just turn into a frog after 30 minutes no matter what you build. No damage, not tanky, no CC, no nothing.
>>564706787You'd need to unnerf crushing fists for that. That's literally the only thing that changed for melee infernus to get gutted since he can still get a heavy melee off of ult.In fact if anything melee infernus is even better now that he has afterburn buildup on melee but melee items are ass.
the worst matchmaking in any game created in the last 10 years of human history. bravo
>>564706852That's how most spirit heroes should be, you're supposed to end the game earlier with the massive advantage you gain by being so strong early. If the game goes late you just assault backlines and get kill confirms on weak targets and hope for the best. She's actually pretty well balanced right now, might be a bit powercrept by Apollo
>>564706852TIL calico can't build plated armor, curse, disarm, juggernaut, or collosus
>>564704480truth nukeno matter what rank you are, no matter what game, unless you're playing scrims you're always going to get dice rolls. the average skill goes up, but the sensation of "holy fuck this guy's retarded" will never go away. you will always feel like you. and there will always be a mix of players who are better than you and who are worse than you
>>564706957>That's how most spirit heroes should beIn reality the gun heroes are ALSO the spirit heroes because they get to double dip and are also strong early.Seriously why the fuck do they get to do this, why can't spirit do this kind of shit but gun has shit like wraith and mirage going 2-3 spirit tier 4 items being lane hitler but also auto winning lane but also have cc but also have mobility
they do lots of things
>>564707191Had an eternus 5 match where the enemy sinclair went 0/8/3 and did about 7k-8k damage in 30 minutes.
>>564706957She would need to have a viable mechanism to do spirit damage to be worth building spirit on, but bombs got taken out back and shot. >>564707059Curse doesn't do anything at my rank because people know how to buy Unstoppable
>>564707247Idk generally certain carries are too strong in lane but they aren't among the best, just need some toning down
>>564706957You can't end the game with any amount of advantage early, waveclear is ubiquitous and structures are impossible to kill without friendly creeps around
>>564706495>>The distribution is also likely inaccurate, because the ranked distribution only tracks matches PLAYED and "higher" mmr players (Phantom+) are going to be playing morenah they have an actual player distribution charteverything else is true>>564707286and no matter what rank you are, someone can get fucked up on substances and decide they want to like, turn people into rabbits, man, i'm just having fun, dude2fort is RIGHT there god damnit
>>564706852>>564707247Calico has top5 best gun dps in the game.
>>564707469Too bad she has to jam Sweetest Lie up the enemy's asshole in order to do that best gun dps, which means you WILL die shortly after killing that person you harmed
>>564707453Yes but that is for their site's own MMR which is inaccurate to the actual game for reasons previously stated
>on a winstreak, rank 6>queue up to get into a new tier>get speedran in 25 minutes because our apollo legitimately went 1/8 in lane among other anchorsforced 50/50 is real
>>564707469so does rem but they don't have abilites that synergize with gun
>>564707359>just need some toning downThe problem is that this is a fundamental issue that keeps showing up, certain heroes just get to have every tool and excel/be good at everything.The devs have also systematically increased the importance of gun by making spirit worse at taking objectives like midboss and pushing.It's the same heroes over and over again and there's no changes or reworks to fix the underlying issue, they do half assed nerfs and then they once again become a problem a couple months later because they didn't fix the actual issue.
>>564707453>nah they have an actual player distribution chart>posts an image with the reminder text "THERE IS A NATURAL UPWARD BIAS TO STATLOCKER RANKS AS HIGHER RANKED USERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO USE THE SITE
>>564707453Sorry, it was 1/13. He went out of lane 0/8 that's what I mixed up.
>>564707702>you'll look cute as a bu-AAACK
i need your help savannah
>>564707594What are you talking about? Rem's dps is bottom 14 out of 38 at 35 boons. Calico is top4 at 35 boons.
>>564707840ohhh you just looked at bullet damage scaling. lol. lmao.
>>564707651The core design philosophy is there mostly, but yes there are too "do everything" heroes. They just need to go all in on the idea of "gun weaker early, spirit strong early"Reworks are needed more than simple number changes, and they really need to address how many double dipping (hybrid) carries they have in the game because part of the issue is hybrid damage, leaves less answers for when someone does start to snowball.
>>564707840i accept your seekercession
>People are whining about Calico's gun/dlg/ is shitlow shitlow huh
>>564707880at bare minimum they should change all those bullet procs to not do spirit damage
>>564708004there isn't even a single e6 player here
>>564708004>>564708065Can you show me a single high ranked match where a player running "gun calico" actually accomplishes stuff
>>564707469okay and my dick is 5 inches in a vacuumwhat are we even talking about hereraw base gun stats aren't the key indicator for "can this hero be an m1 carry">>564707574>everything else is trueyeah man i was just saying>>564707658>>the distribution is also likely inaccurate, because the ranked distribution only tracks [the number of matches PLAYED at a given rank]>nah they have a player-based distribution graph>everything else[, like statlocker skewing towards higher ranks due to sample bias,] is trueread nigga readpic rel is the kind of distribution he was talking about
>>564707880>"gun weaker early, spirit strong early"But then that heavily limits design space and now you can't have late game spirit stuff without messing with some complicated stuffThis is the real problem>>564708007When you're losing to gun you're not only being hit by gun damage but also spirit procs and what not because for some reason valve forced spirit scalings on everything gun so the intended counterplay like metal skin and return fire doesn't even do that much.Doesn't help that gun heroes also have amazing abilities so you're still dying to wraith and infernus shit and getting cced by them even if you use stuff like disarming hex.And to boot if they hit you for a microsecond you now need to also use debuff remover just so the infernus doesn't do 2k damage to you just by shooting at you for 0.10 seconds but god forbid if he does it again while it's on cooldown.It's not a "gun should be weaker early" because not every hero can build gun and kill everyone early, it's certain hero kits doing everything.
>>564708240spirit is strong late - seven, abhrams, wraith, victor (before nerfs)
>>564708004Spend enough time in any general at a game that you're good at and it's the same. It's always an endless deluge of the most confidentially retarded motherfuckers on the planet. Even me saying this matches the footprint of a confidentally retarded motherfucker convinced he's not one.
>>564708240Late game spirit not providing much extra damage is a good thing, it's mostly utility for good reason, nobody wants to get 100-0'd by a spirit hero in the lategame then sit with an 80 minute respawn. If you're lower rank and much better than your rank, you will still win on spirit heroes, if you're higher rank you can actually push advantages and end the game before gun heroes snowball out of control (in theory, maybe not presently), if you desperately want to rank up and want to tryhard, play a carry. It's really as simple as that
Change calico t3 ava from 20% lingering dmg amp to 100% for 0.5 seconds.
>>564707278lots of bullshit more likeFUCK YOU!!!!!
Carries need nerfs but disarming hex is still slept on and I don't really understand why>Other gun counter items are almost strictly defensive>Usually just lead to you getting killed slower>Disarming hex allows you to play aggressively or defensively>Low CD and spammable >Basically antiheal against M1s too since they get most of their lifesteal by left clicking
there are actually only 10 item slots per character, since stamina mastery and counterspell is mandatory on everyone
>>564708895There should be a new item category for movement with like 2 slots
>>564708895>implying your pussy ass team will push even 1 walker in 30 minutes instead of just afk jungling until the enemy rapes everyone
>>5647088904 seconds of not shooting is mostly an irrelevant amount of time for the meta carries.
>>564708895dont forget dispel magic
>>564709087Yeah if you're dogshit
>>564709247wraith just fucks off with teleport or throws cards at you, infernus probably already did his damage and is flame dashing away
>>564709310Making someone disengage in a teamfight isn't a bad thing and by the time they tag back in your hex will be back up
>>564709383Yeah if they're dogshit
>>564708240>But then that heavily limits design spaceIt's the complete opposite. A small percentage of characters are gun carries, if gun is strong early game it would just play like Counter Strike and laning would be even more of a coin flip.>>564708467>If you're lower rank and much better than your rank, you will still win on spirit heroesBullshit, this current meta is heavily skewed towards gun carries across all ranks. Hyper late game gun builds are borderline uncounterable for numerous reasons.t. has the whole character roster selected
>>564709497works on my machine
>>564709545>tales from obscura
me, honest seven, raping the apollosissy that bullied me in lane late game
>>564709585I'm Ascendant tho
Big Blue is callingDo you answer?
>>564710450
>>564710450Let’s see what this dick can do
>>564708890Disarming hex has some of the lowest winrates in the game because dispel exists.
6 seven's 2 stuns all enemies in a fuck off massive radius for 2 seconds
Anons think we will ever get a non-humanoid hero?
>>564711165Examples?
>>564708329drifter spirit is also strong late because he deals %max hp damage
>>564711270
>>564711165I propose a legally distinct sexy demon dog hero
>>564711270Yagorath from paladins is probably my best example
>>564711456visscoos
>>564711510It was just an example, but viscoos still has arms and legs like a human
>>564710957and if you're already winning, you'd never feel the need to buy disarming hex. you can just buy damage or survivability (including dispel...) and still out-DPS themand if you're already losing, you're not going to be able to kill them in that 4-5 second window anyways or turn the fight around with it. you're now down 3k souls in a situation where you can't afford to berusted barrel gets you 90% of the benefits of disarming hex at a quarter of the price>>564711374his 2 is current hp damage
thoughts? the idea is to stack both mystic reverb damage and a heavy melee into arctic blast's 15% damage amp
>>564711647>70k souls to do less damage compared if you just dart slowing hex ulted
>>564711573I bet his new model is going to make him look a lot more like Flubber or something
>>564711647>thoughts?60k souls....20k-30k is your budget for a core build realistically
>afterburn: 8% buildup per BULLETOk so why does it take 40 bodyshots from far away on a dummy to proc afterburn but only 10 in close range.
>>564670407>redditmowhat does this even mean
this was very cool btwI totally was able to keep my shit together
>>564711961Buildups are affected by damage falloff, anon.
>>564711961the same reason you also deal less damage when shooting at a further range. weapons have falloff ranges, which scales both their bullet damage and also all of their procsthat little dot next to people's HP bar? that's the weapon falloff indicator. i don't know the exact color ranges but i think yellow is edge, and then it fades to red from start -> end of falloff range. scales your damage and procs from 100% -> 10% linearly
>invisibility on his 3>firerate on his ultHuh?
>>564712047God bless him, hunting the arab in his den
>>564711647imagine barely holding on for 40 minutes in a game where you're getting your ass beat and you watch your haze buy crushing fists
>10 minute queue time>get into game and kill lane opponent>he leaves>game isn't counted anymore>everyone leavesvery serious game btw
what do i max first on pocket? right now i'm rushing cloak bc w/reduced cd it gives insane mobility/map presence super early but barrage is always my highest dmg stat and affliction singlehandedly wins fights/games so i'm beginning to wonder if i'm being greedy
>>564712428lol
>>564712592cloak if you're playing carryult if you have a compy team
>>564712047am I supposed to not think this is based
>>564712592if you can't answer that yourself you shouldn't be playing pocket.
>>564711850you know i can still ult afterward right?
>>564712948to deal 20 dps ?
>>564712592>witchmail and merc mag on minaalso pocket barely buys leap anymore
>>564711647actual mental derangement
>>564711647Good to see some memes never die
secret chinese dyanmo build
>>564713708viablereported
>>564710450Let's see what this dick can do.
>>564712920yeah the defeat screen was really based
And people say Holliday is worthless
>>564714324>gun build>no cooldown itemsyep arcanist for a reason
>>564714389why would I need cooldown if Crackshot replenishes on headshots? The point was a crackshot build
>>564714324>arcanist II
>>564714464i dunno i just never rank up no matter how much I win
>>564714453buy enchanter's emblem + tcd + scourge + spellslinger in hideout/sandbox with maxed crackshot and maybe you'll notice something. obviously you don't need the latter 2 ever in an actual game but it's just to make it more clear how crackshot works
>>564713529God why did they think sleep being a better stun was fine
Alright guys, I'm the average Deadlock player, and I'm getting ready to queue for a match! There's just a few things I have to get out of the way first.>hits myself in the head with a sledgehammer>rams an ice pick into my brain>pours hot candle wax into my eyes>gouges out my ear drumsDURRR OKAY ME READY TO PLAY DEADLOCK NOW ME STUPID FUCKING RETARD READY TO CHASE ENEMY CARRY OUT OF BASE ME READY TO ALWAYS BE OUT OF POSITION DURRRRR DURRR I FIT RIGHT INTO ASCENDANT 3 DURRRR DURRR IM A STUPID FUCKING NIGGER
>>564716247PREACH BROTHER!!!!I am ready to play Seven and brool the entire game. Sidelanes? Clearing waves? Thats pussy support shit I BROOL or I QUITPhantom 6 btw
>>564716353ultbot seven contesting urn is based though. they have to buy knockdown or forever lose urn
>>564716493>they have to buy a 3.2k item that'll probably have other uses during the game the horror
>Doorman buys Boundless instead of curse when the enemy carry is frying our assHe ended up with the least damage too.Why nigga why
>>564716353>I am ready to play Seven and brool the entire gameBased.
>>564716649but dude his door range increased by 12 meters
>>564716649L > R bitch i dont make the rules
>>564716247go straight to eternusgod speed, soldier.
I tried the gun doorman build and I basically did nothing the whole game. Did I play it wrong?
i would like a patch
>>564647949>plays healsluts to get carried>goodYou just gamba with forced 50 agents.
>>564716960TWO MORE WEEKS TRUST THE PLANBUY THE EGG
>>564716960I would like Haze buffs
>>564716960Infernus now goes 0.000000001% slower in flame dash enjoy!
>>564716898>I tried the gun doorman buildlet me guess, 40% purples, 40% greens, 20% gun?
>>564716960+1 dps to afterburn
make the new thread you damn bums im not doing it again
>>564719512dont have a deadlock picture saved man
>>564719512i don't know how :)
>>564719627Here, use this one
>>564719930im going to look for a deadlock picture and right when i come here to post new thread someone else will post his, its just going to be that way
>>564719512Is there a l->r build guide for that
>>564720032but you already have the picture so you can make thread, i had to download it first
>>564720245I know, I just thought that would annoy you for a brief moment if I posted it.
>>564719512
>>564720350deadlock general is dying right as we speak and you got nothing better to do than trying to annoy me?
