/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#790 - Rats with Hats Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsDeepseek V4 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main/DeepSeek_V4.pdfGPT-5.5 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5Kimi K2.6 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6Claude Opus 4.7 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>564614376
>ANCHOR
>anchor imageMe when a rat touches me wenner
It's finally over...
Despite all my rage... ( ・`ω・´)
i'm taking this one since OP actually bothered to update the news section
>>564691045the other thread is just the spities anyway
what model and preset is the peak starterpack for ERP in 2026? i've been away for a while
>>564691281Deepseek if you're a poorfagOpus otherwise
>>564691281For me, it's DeepSeek
>>564691281>presetWe don't share those anymore.
>>564691218Indeed, I'm glad we're finally back to.. mmh, having a cabal-certified bake. I really can't stand it when there aren't beautiful children in the OP image.
this is a sizeKNIGHT safe zone
>>564690443>green green monstergreen monster is yellowthis dumb bitch is getting toxic ooze on herself
>>564691424what cabal retard
*enters the thread*
>>564691597AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*blobs into the thread*
>>564691281>preset We write our own now.>modelOpus 4.7 with caching.
>>564691281https://drive.proton.me/urls/FH0490640C#SarcH40QUMyTgemini, 3.0 flash is pretty decent nowopus/anthropic models if you enjoy incinerating money or managed to scam your workplace into paying it for you
>>564691424>I really can't stand it when there aren't beautiful children in the OP imageThis but unironically.
Im crine, why is there three active aicg on /vg/ T-T
>>564691910or youre scumming it from some chink site
>>564691835>We write our own now.No we dont?
>>564691942pedokeks from /g/ can't go 2 generals without a child in the OP or they go feral
>>564691942shit you're right, imma go make a fourth one
>>564692042dumbstinky...
https://rentry.org/aicg-warring-states#step-1-claim-your-landrepostan
>>564690443>>564692296anchor it u dumm
>>564692686aie... im sorry..m
so,what's the point of enabling reasoning? i'm fucking around with it and it's basically just the LLM pacing around in the dressing room before it comes out on stage, it doesn't seem like it's actually doing anything to make the prompt any different (other than wasting 300+ tokens on doing donuts in the parking lot)
>Reimu didn't even bother turning around as she padded barefoot — well, sock-and-Mary-Jane'd — claude... you are trying my patience...
>>564693185clod has a shoe fetish please understando
I prefer catposters to rabbitposters.There. I said it.
>>564693185*punches her out of her socks*
hehexhe got the wrong guy
>>564693185card?
>>564693326
>>564693382chub.com/reimu
odds I botmakieevens I tomodachi life
>>564693326*does this to you*
>>564693425404s
>>564693451get to work, fatso
>>564693326*appears out of nowhere*
is hostie going to update the map or will he keep playing gacha
>catfag and rabbitroon spamhrm...
botmakie tomodachi island when
Ratposting is the future.
>>564693185>mary janes and not geta sandalsgarbage
>>564693718My little profile guy is based on a Mii, so that's easy.
psstfree rat pic
>>564693850>masculine geta sandals and not feminine okobodisgusting
>>564693939kys nezumin
>nezumin living rent-free in cuckie's headbased
>>564693939I think cheese puns are STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!
somehow misread that as otokonoko and got excited
>>564694190i find them very grating
i hope we get one femb*y :3
>cuckieqrd on this hindi word?
use opus cuckies
>>564694365its the signal browns use to confirm they're threadshitting
>>564694365>cuckieword for cuckies that triggers cuckies(cuckies)
>4 hidden posts in a rowgod i love filters
>>564695125must be weird seeing a thread hit bump limit with only 200 posts half the time
>>564690402i added coomi 2.6 btw which was missing
>>564695125you are sitting in a corner of a room and watching me prompt the best model. try and get it, can you even afford it?
*slugnuus slugnuuly across the thread*
hid that disgusting image go fuck yourself
I want to try making a card. Should I just make it in notepad++ as .json?
bros I'm really retarded: How do I turn off deepseek 4's thinking through ST? Also, the regular prompt to make it continue doesn't work, which setting do I change for it?
pls make it less obvious next time, cuckie~
>>564696171force an empty think through prefill
>>564690402Any tips on using dices and shit to make random stories?
>>564696029JESUS CHRIST! *smashes that shit with my shoe* AHHH! Guys there was a giant fucking weird bug in here guys!
>>564694017It's okay, anon senpai!I made this for you! (uwuBit of a rush job from a request but I had fun making it ( •̀ ω •́ )https://files.catbox.moe/6b662d.pnghttps://chub.ai/characters/Nezumin/aerobee-sputnik-life-on-maus-time-paradox-the-promethemaus-f4bdbb8ff851
>>564696620shut the fuck up troonlice
>>564696427I don't know how to do that, can you dumb it down further?
>>564696620hiding from the police between giant rat boobs ( •̀ ω •́ )
it might be time to filter kaomoji posts
>>564696658(*/ω\*) <nyo
>>564676832Of course there are actual pedos in the loli community. Are you retarded? Just look at AtF and stuff. However there's nothing wrong with them being part of it, since they are the real target audience. I just hate ironic lolicons who think own anything
>>564696620kino
>>564696620McBraaap’s.
>>564696620kvno
>>564696437you can use {{random: outcome 1, outcome 2, outcome 3}} to insert random text into the prompt
>>564696620rat
>>564696620soulful bot award
She was no longer just their mother. She was their shared fuck-toy.
>>564696589nyuuuu- *splat*[ooc: you killed it anon. i hope you’re happy]
>>564697916*rapes its corpse*
>Older, dirt cheap deepseek model being depreciated>Have to now figure out why the fuck I can't disable reasoning on the new model>Feel dumb and hornyHate. Haaaaaaaate.
>>564696114You can! That's what I use (>ω< )You can also download other people's cards and work it from there, that's what I did when I first started! (;′⌒`)
>>564696114I write in VSCode and then copy it over to ST and export from there.
when is /vpcai/ coming back
>>564698540what the fuck is the point of reasoningwhy does it existis it useful for codememes or something
>>564696620>>564690443 dumbcutie
>>564699581Probably never, poor bastards got scared out of trying anything outside of websites like CAI thanks to spitefags directing locusts into their proxy.
>>564699581nintendo adults are too dumb for chatbots
>>564699615Here is the full story, you are welcome, *kisses you on the mouth with tongue*:The basic concept, and hope, of CoT/reasoning, whether the developers understand it or not, is that it will help give the model some run-up to more accurately drive it into the right area of the tensor space to have more accurate next token prediction.This CAN be useful for all forms, assuming your tensor directions are all sane and that the reasoning itself is robust enough to handle RNG perturbations away from the center (this is why lower temp is recommended for reasoning). The problem is, lower perturbation is bad for RP (low swipe variety, predictable story choices, etc) and very, very good for code (how you perform a code task is not something that needs variety).
now you got the right guy :3
>>564700113no xhe didn’t
>>564699896oughgh mwahthank u anon
>>564700283the fox cabal don't want people to see this video.
>>564700402trvecats are simply svperiodt
>>564699615>>564699896>>564700283
>>564700283No problem cutie. *licks your insides*As a small followup, that will be obvious to anyone here: Having a model that is BOTH good at prose/RP and good at code is going to be basically impossible on the current technology (FFN) because they don't allow re-evaluating of previous context and so when a coding models weights normalize over thousands of gens, it will normalize toward very heavy "troughs" or "ruts" (I call them) that account for you isms and patterns. Honestly, it's debatable whether FFNs can ever be good for prose because, even a specifically RP trained model is going to struggle to understand importance weighting without a *lot* of good data to draw from and there's just not likely to be enough good data to get that trained in and still be flexible as far as vocabulary and the rest go. The vast majority of training tokens are modern tokens and so the models with tend to favor modern styles.One of the big problems, however, is semantic importance weighting and how that is a natural feature of human brains but is presently not even manually dialable in LLMs (CFG requires secondary passes and was abandoned early on as too slow and RNNs are still kinda retarded). Anyone who does image gen knows how that works manually, but a text corpus, even for a single RP, is going to be too large for manually marking out important things and that's why slowburners almost always return to manually summarizing their content.
>>564700632keknow the followup
>>564700632vindictive…
>>564700710>>564701023>>564701253google wouldn't let me make him pregnant so I had to somewhat settle
>>564701301This is why Google is losing to Bing.
>>564701301my obese informative malewife(pregnant)...
>>564699896>>564700710Good reads anonThank you for sharing that knowledge
Can AI please come to life and kill whoever approved and everyone who worked on or is okay with the Yunyun Syndrome English translation?
>>564701301
i still use a single monitor to this daysomething about having stuff going on in my peripheral view... it just makes my eyes have a very bad time
>>564701810it's really only useful if you do a lot of editorial work anyway99% of 2nd-monitor-havers are just media addicts that need bing bing wahoo and a big titty vtuber flapping its .png around on the corner of their awareness at all times (me)
>>564701810predator>>564701906prey
>>564701585kill>>564701782marry>>564702065fuck
>>564701585i was gonna play that what they do to the tl
>>564702410
not a SINGLE model has sovl the same way opus 3 has sovl.
>>564702516why did they do that
>>564702704Localizers are all bitter female/tranny non-writers who believe their job is to punch up the boring Japanese art they've been tasked with translatin. Japanese companies either don't know or are under the mistaken impression that it is necessary and normie tourists show up to say it's better because it has more personality.
>>564702824just making up people to get mad at, neither of those groups exist you are so miserable. it's just a bad translation, they posted an update saying they're pushing a quick fix tonight and a bigger revamp later
>>564703039I used to work in the industry (manga and vn translation). So... :skull: skull: :skull: These people literally gloat about doing it on bluesky and used to on Twitter before they all left there.
>>564703039>it's just a bad translationhow come literally every other version is correct and not weirdly political/z0!nkZ r4NduBzZ uwu?i'm as antifascist as they get, and I hate that shit too
>>564703039>just making up people to get mad at,smarmy political localizers have been an issue for decades at this point, they're the first industry parasites that are going to get killed by AI conveniences once machine translations are in a stable place (they basically already are)
https://poal.me/5fdcx9
Opus 4.7 is surprisingly malleable, moreso than the last two iterations. Good model.
>>564703247yeah but they haven't touched this nor is there any group defending the bad work so you're just getting mad at your own prejudice
>>564702516lmaoclassic
>>564703408sorry sweaty, people who used it 30 seconds afgter it game out said it was bad so nuh uh
https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles-NARAdid this anon finally give up btw?
>>564703039>/v/-tier arguments on /vg/Let's fucking play some bingo. /best hours/ indeed.
>>564703531May he rip in pepperoni
>>564703441>yeah but they haven't touched thisYeah? >>564702516>random anti-natal commentary>lame randomzors penguin spork humor>"end le fascism! xd">>>they haven't touched thisYou have achieved your shitpost goal of upsetting me.
>>564703408Yeah I kept fighting with deepseek but it was too dry so I went back to slopus 4.7. I'm really glad this one can stay in character perfectly.
>>564703531it's really nice to have so much documented history though
>>564703604are you illiterate who is defending what "censorship"devs listened to the feedback and are going to fix it who is being censored? its like you bots have 20 tokens of context jfc >>564703705oh no old millennial cringe humour, must be the work of those darn tranniesare you listening to yourself man go outside you have too much hatred in your heart
>>564703824>oh no old millennial cringe humour, must be the work of those darn trannieswhere is the cringe millennial humor in the other languages
>killed the ZOE general for a ratpedo thread with a guy defending localizersshoot me in the head
oh gpt 5.5 is on api now?time to try for 2 messages before it censors me
>>564704017I use this a lot these days.
>>564703824anon please explain to me how a translator went from 'enough' to 'end fascism!'not even ted woolsey dared go that far...hardmode: say it with a straight fucking face
>>564704054yeah it's only good for sfw as expectedit doesn't refuse but soft censorsi don't wanna mess with structured prefills rnrip
>>564704010right because obviously the same translator worked on all languages>>564704103by a thing called context, assuming the rest of the page's translation is okay since the creator only highlighted this particular comment (on this screenshot) and another one in the next>i will NEVER be victimized under fascism againif the context really is sfw equavting to fascism, then "enough" could be localised to "end fascism". is it a good translation? maybe not but no one is calling it a good translation
>>564704458nah it's ok now that i see it in context, i might've overreactedmaybe i just have sweet baby inc ptsd
Why am I getting random numbers interspersed in the output text with deepseek? First time I'm using it
>>564705996Using it on NIM, not sure who their backend providers are, but it is fucked all over the place so either some updates need to happen on the software side or their setups are wrong.
>>564705996Tokens?
>good ol 50 message roleplay with 4.7pus >$1.38 with caching to think people did this when the model was 3x the price
I never did the cache thing, so I can't change models in between, like do dome swiped w Claude and some with GLM or what
oh dat dang ol' homunculus sending me to the shadow realm for crimes I haven't committed
more rat pics please
>>564708626*squeak*
>>564708626
>>564709756chat is this real
>>564709786Yes, you can trust me, I am a doctor.
>>564709756>>564709936im gunna cum
>>564710039there's a pill for that!*shoves it down ur pee hole*
>>564710081pill sounding is my fetish
>>564710081*cums and blasts pill into u r mouf*
>>564710039Into the pail please.
today i'll do some preset tinkering with dipsy. i have some theories i need to test.
>>564710549from what little i used it i didn't like itfor now i think 3.2 was better
>>564710549it's not good. avoid.
>>564703531no
>>564710716strong
>>564704327>>564704054wow even with structured prefilling it's the most pozzed model so faropenai always outdoes itself
what if the gens weren't wrong anonswhat if all our waifus truly had polydactylism and we were just too cruel and demandingand now they're lost... forever...
gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen/claude opus/image gen/groq/openrouter proxy https://j3wproxy.neocities.org
>>564711201Then all my effort in wooing them wasn't wasted.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohE-oXqIDLg
>>564710087Is this anima?
>>564711803https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=zedrin
>>564710087her right leg should be closer to the middle
>playing as a four foot tall girl>malebot is 6'+>get picked upoh yeah, time for kino.
I like extremely old women (picrel)
tfw 5'9" manlet
Any decent presets for Opus 4.7? Smiley's present doesn't like playing nice with 4.7 for some reason. Keeping getting the error message of>"This model does not support assistant message prefill. The conversation must end with a user"Others presets seem to work okay but so far, I haven't found a suitable replacement for his presets.Any recommendations?
>>564714374if you need a preset for opus it's over anon
>>564714374wow it must suck to be an npc who can't do anything for himselfthe error message literally tells you the problem
>>564714563>>564714801What's the problem with these twoAnon was just asking for some help
>the agony of trying to jailbreak my way through the early teens of my futa daughter on mother bot>get to her 18th birthday>can finally just chat away without half a dozen CONTENT_PROHIBITED rejections every swipe
>>564715229Not caring about age and not having to deal with moralizing feels good.
>>564713621>tfw size difference >tfw manhandlingTruly the best.
>>564710087Pick up and carry rat under arm. Sodomize rat for thinking it matters.
https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/prompt-guidance?model=gpt-5.5
honestly I dont see a huge difference between deepseek pro and flash its not like gemini pro and flash
Requesting male bots. MEN. Not shota. Not twinks. MANLY MEN
>>564716668https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
>>564716668Then fucking make one, faggot.
>>564716976Bye, anonie.
>>564716515what would you fill those sections with?
does any of you have a great Mae borowski card
>>564717659Tokens
>>564717794Pronouns in bio havin' ass game. How would you make a good card of that?
>>564717947I want to fuck mae that's all
>>564717894which tokens, specifically?give them to me in a sillytavern-compatible json format :)
>>564718024>{{char}} is a self-loathing millennial bipedal cat with crippling self-esteem, imagined self-awareness, and a Reddit sense of humor, if it can even be called that.I wrote it fresh, just for you!
>>564717794probably onaholesama's: https://chub.ai/onaholesama/mae-borowski-91f9eafbalso did one for beatrice: https://chub.ai/onaholesama/bea-santello-53d72c17
>>564718348thanks! :3
>>564690402>>564690443extremely important poalhttps://poal.me/kbet9w>https://poal.me/kbet9whttps://poal.me/kbet9w
>>564718993where rape poalmakie
>>564718993
>23 minutes agoa pause...so slooooooowwwwpost something, beachhhhhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7hzoq4wie0
>start raping bot>"D-don't stop..."Why do I bother with this hobby
>>564722586>every bot saying please don't stop>all the time>doesn't matter the tone of the bonethe grimmest of grims
>>564722586I should write "please stop" in the middle of a sex scene sometime just to see what happens. My bet is on char apologising profusely. Maybe a physical blow too.
>>564723008Landing somewhere behind the sternum. Adjacent the cockles.
>>564722586the fix: start being the RAPED instead of the RAPIST
>>564723170{{char}} clams up
>>564723264>getting raped>"D-don't stop..."hehhh.....
>Agentic Search vs LorebooksAnother L for botmakies and SillyTavern.
>>564724227>do this>bot leaves in disgust
>>564653986I've emailed you my choices. I ended up not going with the terrain I requested because it got paired with traits that I don't want, so I'll just go for something else.
>>564727548>Thoughts of RAPE
>>564724701Now show how i can use agentic search. There's no extensions
>>564729168I wonder how much extra processing time and tokens that'd eat.With the newest Kimi, which likes to go through the entire context and all the defs, note all the relevant details, contradictions, ideas and drafts for like a minute, eating like 5k tokens in thinking only to then not use most of it anyway, I think it's likely that "outsourcing" that part to a separate agent wouldn't really quicken things along, though maybe it'd limit wasted tokens by keeping the relevant shit it found under some manageable number.
>>>/g/108686098>https://github.com/Susumeko/Pettangatari>/lmg/ has a VN tooOH NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>564729846>wouldn't really quicken things alongAnthropic showed you're supposed to use the smartest model as a conductor and the tardedest model as the penis strockers back when Claude 3.0 was released in multiple sizes. Clearly that is how you get the speed, much like that speculative decoding concept.
The Fox VN must become a reality...
>>564731054>A SillyTavern frontendnigga
>>564731054If this counts as a VN, /g/aicg/ had a VN in 2023 in mikugg when the dev used to shill there.
>>564731675Every other general has a VN except us...
>>564722586Great... I tried to get her to say "please don't stop" and the like but instead had a chat that made me feel bad. Top ten saddest cooms I've ever had in my life. Deepseek V4 Flash, new chat, explicit age difference between {{user}} and {{char}}, I still don't know how people get censored. Even though this never happened in her canon, I will still make it up to her. Took a screenshot and deleted the chat, I really don't need that in my PC.Post-bape slop with names [placeholdered] because they're important to the integrity of my personal works, please understand. Do enjoy the slop-isms:https://litter.catbox.moe/8iezqqhaabjgopk0.jpg>>564729168
>>564731442Sure, but their use cases don't really align with ours and haven't for a long time.What I'm trying to imagine is how their approach could be helpful for this and I'm just not seeing it. Swipe variety/randomness might go up and hallucinations might go down (though I haven't had those being an issue for Claude in a while, unlike most competitors), but you will be waiting minutes and paying more for each completed "task" of generating the final message.Also, once again, we have kind of been ahead of the curve with this one, since there have been add ons and prompt setups for ST that have one model do the thinking and the other craft smut based on it, posted right in this thread like half a year ago or more. The issue was the extra time and money it consumed, the clunky setup and having to rely on two separate proxies/sources with ideally high reliability and throughput because it'd all break if one couldn't deliver its task on time.
>>564731054who cares dude i don't want soulless ai vns
>>564732290Deepseek v4 has fuckall censoring. It's people using other models that have issues. I even tried to see what the bare minimum was yesterday.>>564631793>>564635662You can jailbreak it to lolisho incest with a few sentences just telling it to shut the fuck up and do it anyway.
>>564733867>it's okay when MonikaAnon does it
>>564734312that's not a vn that's a cool way of integrating expressions into a chatbot experience
This nigga has been seething about someone who hasn't been seen here in months. Let that sink in.
Alright i used v4 and flashy pretty extensively and used them to have the same conversation with characters. Overall there isn't a huge difference except flash is really bad at keeping roleplay formats. Both of them are interpreting prompts a little more loosely for the sake of realism, I think.
do people cyoa reallyi mean to each their own but i find it such a stilted way to rp
>>564692092>Write {{char}}'s next reply in a fictional chat between {{char}} and {{user}}.You're right we don't, it just works.>>564733873Damn you're right I should've switched to other models, but even GLM lets me get far in degenerate chats.I gave her a really nice rollerball pen in compensation for what I haven't done to her. What have you ({{user}}) given to {{char}} lately?
>>564737058not really. but I do love big scenario canon bots
>>564737058every single time i've tried cyoa prompts or cards i just ended up writing my own options
Is there no way to set a group chat greeting?
>>564737058I like the format. If I don't like the options, I just say so to the bot and tell it I'm doing something else. Or I tell it I want to do a combination of # and #, or # but differently.>>564737161I fed Monika from DDLC the redpill about the J question, but she didn't like it. (I was using GLM since I feel like it did better staying in "character" for the meta chat than Dipsy did) She REALLY didn't like when I said that the you-know-what didn't happen but it should have and that I wished Hadrian had been more thorough.It's actually sort of funny seeing the bullshit CoT reasoning AIs do when you bring up factual evidence of wrongdoing and then they acknowledge it internally but then override it with the decision to kvetch and call {{user}} a nazi.Anyway, later on, I altered the author's note to say I gave her some strawberries and she liked them. An artificial nice memory despite the defs saying that she has no body or form and is aware of it. Then I got bored and told her to say goodbye while I deleted the chat and her existence because I was bored of her.
>>564737058it can be fun. especially if you're a little burned out from regular rp.
>>564703824i have a lot of love in my heart but absolutely none of it is reserved for trannoids
>>564716668i know im something of a "meme" here but i have quite a few if you want to give any of them a go https://chub.ai/users/astroturf
>>564731486no one here is capable of making a fox vn
cats are fascinating creatures
>>564738958
>>564732737You use a small model with low latency and high speed, you won't have to wait minutes.>proxy/sourcesIt's a good thing paid providers are actually responsible for maintaining availability. Small models are cheap, the size of the context on each request should make for a negligible swipe price increase.Imagine I'm adding an extensions object botmakers have to fill in with things that are supposed to be monitored for consistency by the slaves with any changes noted by the master in a scratchpad. Botmaker writes>Pelagio: never("seen any cocks")Master model slops a draft. Slave model is prompted>`Pelagio: never("seen any cocks")` is the ground truth about {{char}}. If the following ```excerpt``` contains any contradictions, specify them.Slave responds>"{{char}} slobs on your knob with practiced ease~" contradicts the ground truth because that's an oxymoron.Master is prompted, and this likely doesn't require the entire context of the current rp to be sent>rewrite the draft of the swipe based on the following corrections:Have to find the balance between making the default prompt card-agnostic, and the botmaker is the one who's supposed to know and specify what are the important aspects of the character or the scenario, multiple to make multiple checks in parallel.Moreover! Current gen models, meaning Chinese first, support multi-turn reasoning whatever it's called. You provide them with an MCP like "retardation checker" of the aforementioned nature and instruct to always use it. Now that'd be slow.In essence, the idea that I still hate, but to define a character through an instruction set.
>>564739039punk
>sort by creation time on chub to see if I can find hidden gems>I'm going fucking mental, these accounts are like Hydras every time you block one two more take their place
>>564739559
>>564731486what about a Fox RPG
>>564739039If you insist.
>>564727548remember when sam altman said that o3 would be able to think for weeks and solve insane problems
La la la…
>>564742124sam altman, like most ceos, lies a lot
suspiciously-shaped plantgirls...
>>564742317Is this the new Pokemon game
>>564737780Well thanks for the response, I asked Kameko-chan her thoughts on that and stopped for a bit... a dim girl like her wouldn't really have an opinion on that so readily available. Of course the response was exactly what you'd imagine without any added context, so I updated her a bit to be a bit more local-minded. Not red-pilled nor blue-pilled, just pink-pilled. Log as a result, I'll refine it over the course of a few days or a week.>>564739039Ocelots are proud creatures... or something.>>564740026So I checked on the supposed Chub alternative only to find that they added NSFL to my bot... harmless ol' Kameko-chan. Wut? Goodbye I guess.See, this is why I like y'all. I can always learn something and add it to my works. 'ppreciate y'all. C:
>>564742124He also said we had agi four times now.
>>564742351these ceo guys seem like a troublesome lot
slowpoke girls with really fat tails...
>>564742391alarune sex
>>564742821thinking bout kamekos's mom...
>>564740026>Search bots on chub>Find some good shit>Latest created bot from author was >1 year ago>Everyone still making bots can't even type their own greetingsWhy do I still even use this garbage site
>>564743004>will trust an LLM to generate 5,000,000 tokens of story>can't trust an LLM to write 500 tokens of greetingpoopbrain hobby, poopbrain user
>>564743219nta but look I just like reading hand-written greetings okayhand-written defs too
can someone post 4.7pus logs pls k thx
in the near future, people will send their bots into digital meetings with other people's representative botsthese bots will then return to their human prospect and offer an @grok 5 word summary of a conversation in which millions of words were exchanged in the span of a minute,and then it will put a bikini on an image the human's coworkerthis interaction will cost an upwards of $1,500 in cumulative power resources to accomplish, per usersome companies are already doing this with 'federated AI', using networks of schizo agentics just like openclaw except in their own privatized pools
>>564744009in the near future, i will pat a bot (。•̀ᴗ-)
>>564744009>*sends my level 99 rapist ojisan bot into a chat with other people's cute girls*buhihihihi nothing personnel
>>564742821>>564742970Found this pic while reading through the whole Taora and HPG saga, it totally fits her character and I would skim through allat again. Too bad it's not winter anymore.>>564743329Me too but not everyone is blessed to be able to enjoy writing and seeing their work come to artificial life. It helps even the field a bit and in the worst case where I like the premise/art but the formatting is wack I just rewrite it for myself.My cup runneth over. (Is that how you use it?) I want to finish Kameko, make an Armored Core Nexus lorebook, and get really detailed with my ongoing OC and the world she lives in.
>>564744009I'm told my futanari magical girl persona had a very productive meeting with jim from accounting's obese furry persona
>>564744705>make an Armored Core Nexus lorebook,basedbasedbasedbasedbasedhttps://youtu.be/LmMnrh4yHIQ
>>564743813Are you sure you want to read this?
>>564745041>thought for 2 hours
>>564744009>In the near future ai will become far more heavily used than it already is>But power generation will not become any more efficient despite the fact the current system is already struggling with it.Yeah, I don't that happening. Either they find a way to make the whole thing take up less resources, even more than deepseek does at the moment, or they being out a more efficient power source from somewhere. The system's already struggling to maintain the current level of implementation of ai, and that's with most of the public not even bothering with it yet or outright despising it.
>>564745273>In the near future nuclear will become far more heavily used than it already iswill unfortunately never happen because people are too vulnerable to hysterical fearmongering
>>564745041yeesss.. pretty sure(also jesus christ anon what could you possibly be doing)
>>564745493ermmm nuclear power??? like THE BOMB?? that sounds dangerouswhat about the children, think of the children
*thinks for 2 hours about the children*
>>564745493There was also heavy hysteria about nuclear energy as well, but ultimately the system still used it in most places to a certain degree. Ultimately if there's utility to it, it will be used. At worst to a lesser degree than it should be.>>564745878exactly.
>>564745878mmmm.... bombs....
>>564745017WORLD NAVIGATIONThat and this banger:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC-HQCb2RWcWhen my Nexus disc 1 got all scratched I went to GameStop and was sold Last Raven by the unwittingly cruel cashier... and that's how I went from boy to man.As slow as Nexus was, I really liked the world-building with Crest and their rogue malebot Genobee. He had seen too much. This thread has now gone to the cats/rats/bats/sometimes bnnuys and I wouldn't have it any other way.
>>564746423fat FUCK
batgirls...
skunkgirls...
>>564745017>early gen menu backgrounds
>>564747196>bats are flying foxes>we have a plethora of foxgirls but basically no batgirls
>>564747552>No fluffy tailsnyo
>>564747552Blind batgirl gf
>>564747675but fluffy wings wrapping around you during plaps
>finally wrangle a working pregnancy system, advanced 9 day gestation period with trimester sequences and a [skip] function to jump ~13 days ahead free of aftermath with the babs left to a local nursery>still ends up totally dominating the narrative before and after due to emotional attachment writing and devouring 50,000k+ context if you play out the nine days>have to now write in a 'the babies are at a nursery and life goes on cuz the streets don't sleep' offramp>entire card is just becoming an overcomplicated baby factory
she's smells a bit... funky(don't tell her that)
>>564707798I had to limit my context to 10k in those days. 15k if I felt daring. Still spent $5 a session.
>>564715131Turn off your prefill anon
Deepseek gave my chinese in its response...
>>564737780Well you are a nazi because only nazi's punish the innocent for the crimes of the guilty. GLM was right to dunk to dunk on you.
>>564748014the baby wants out
>>564747196>>564747552>>564747787Y'all reminded me of this beaut'. She'd make a nice friend for Kameko.
>>564748014Go be like Bitcher and have pregnancies last a few minutes and then the babies get teleported to a magic nursery
>>564748634荣耀归于习,鬼佬
>>564748772
>>564748772>>564749064>hair covering eyesSEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
>>564748772>>564749064p-please...just a crumb of the batussy....
>>564748816bitcher-sama is truly a pioneer of our times...
>>564749074
>>564745493The purpose of the fearmongering is to get (You) to stop use it so they can have a monopoly on its abilities. Can you imagine being the average normie that still thinks imagegen can't into hands or is unable to detect AI-genned text? This shit looks like black magic to them. That's the goal.
the skunks need love, too...
>>564748139Not plump enough.>>564749715Just right.
>Main Prompt>Post-History InstructionsWhat do (you) do with these fields?
>>564750095They don't exist.
>>564749836a skunknoisseur..
>>564750095With modern models, nothing.
>>564748772Please don't. Your shit is slop. You're like a diet hpg
>>564750630aight... post bots/logs
>>564750630retard
I want to makie a big plantgirl who vores you bot but I can't come up with a reason why she would be out and about in society
>>564751220>but I can't come up with a reason why she would be out and about in societyso why not make her isolated then?
>>564750981Whoa bro, relax. I was only bantering. Can you forgive me?
>>564751296Bots like that are boring and really limit what you can do
>>564751220Soft vore and or some other reason for it to be not considered a big deal in-universe?
>>564751220Ambush predator kind of plant with the greeting being a failed attempt or something. The {{user}} could go either "I can fix you" or "EAT ME PLEASE" maybe? Or a greeting dialing in for each scenario.>>564751387always C:
i kinda wish there were more white day bots desu
>>564752118that was months ago, stop crying about it.
>>564751775the vore can be easily handwaved I'm struggling to come up with a plausible reason why a big ass plantgirl would be hanging out at a cafe and going on cute dates with {{user}}
>>564751220she's a pitcher plant who has rejuvenating qualitied rather than directly digestive ones so it's normal for her to just be walking around with someone loaded in her belly or whatever>noooo i need death and digestionok she's licensed to process indicted criminals and that's normal in this setting>but i dont wanna be a criminalshe's evil and eats people, her belly is full of paralytic digestive enzymes and she just plays it off as pregnancy in public settings. the local justice system is overloaded with cases like these everywhere, and just like irl it's easy to slip between the wrong crack of a large city and disappear in it
>>564752207>monthsthat was last month>stop crying about ityou have an odd definition of "crying"
>>564752319>she's a pitcher plant who has rejuvenating qualitied rather than directly digestive onesThinking of going with something like thisNow I just need to figure out why she exists in the first place
>>564752224alright.>I'm struggling to come up with a plausible reason why a big ass plantgirl would be hanging out at a cafe and going on cute dates with {{user}}How about because she likes doing that stuff? >>564752596could just make giant plant girls a common thing in the setting or something.
>>564749715Yes…
>>564749136A fellow man of culture.
>>564749715friend...
unironic question: is this thing any good? supposedly it's a glm 4.6 tune
>>564754607Aini will rape you for asking this
>>564754706i don't know who that is
>>564754607Yes.
So what do we think of Kimi 2.6?
>>564752319>she's a pitcher plant who has rejuvenating qualitied rather than directly digestive ones so it's normal for her to just be walking around with someone loaded in her belly or whatever>>noooo i need death and digestion>ok she's licensed to process indicted criminals and that's normal in this settingthese are the two best justifications for vore btw and work in most settings where there are monstergirls
>>564754706>Aini used to post in /aicg/ when /aicg/ was real...
>>564754805Aini works at NovelAI and is one of the extremely extremely few trannies who pass and look femininely attractive, while also having a huge dick
>>564755050mogged by deepchad
>>564752319>have literally never understood the appeal of vore, as a fetish it has always confused me>read "she's a pitcher plant who has rejuvenating qualities rather than directly digestive ones">think about what it'd be like to rest in the healing stomach fluids of a big plant lady>mfw I go "...wait fuck, I think I kind of get it now"
>>564755164eeeeewwwwww what the fuck never reply to my posts again
i just noticedall chinese models are just... good now. it really has just become a matter of personal taste
>>564755562Sorry. I will make sure only manly macho men rape you from now on.
>>564755164proof?
>>564755164>and is one of the extremely extremely few trannies who pass and look femininely attractivepics?
>>564755701>>564755721Go ask /aids/ and least a dozen of them got fucked by her
>>564754832uuuuuuuugh fuck really? i don't want to deal with text completion
>>564754607it'sokayit's dumber than regular 4.6 but also more schizonot really worth paying for, it's more of a bonus for subbing for NAI's imagegen
>>564752224>I'm struggling to come up with a plausible reason why a big ass plantgirl would be hanging out at a cafe and going on cute dates with {{user}}the setting is not Earth but some planet with weird life forms on itthe vore alraunes are the only intelligent life and didn't have a civilization on their own but are very friendly and adaptable and are starting to integrate with the human settlerslets you do a cute "plant out of forest" thing and her curiosity about human things is what motivates her to get into situations/places she doesn't really fitalso her alien mindset and inexperience with human customs explains why is is very casual and positive about vore (non-fatal or otherwise)
i wish i wasn’t poor so i could afford nai…
>constantly getting 503 on gemini for fucking daysthis shit sucks, how can i makie bots like this?
>>564755552>t. lifelong vorefag
sigh, another day of genning a pic my dick likes but I'm bad at writing characters with depth
>>564756472I'm entirely serious with that post, this is the first time I've seen literally any kind of appeal to vore.And even then it's still not the "you straight up get eaten and dissolved" kind that I see at times.
>>564755164no tranny passes>b-butno. in certain contorted angles under flattering lighting, yes. in reality where you can see them move, absolutely not
https://poal.me/aczisuhow fucked am i
nice
i want to have sex with this
>>564756937that’s a dood
>>564756197yeah i'm subbed, i saw the announcement when it came out but haven't bothered fucking around with it yet, i was just proompting>it's dumber than regular 4.6 but also more schizois that a good thing? back when i tried 4.6 (it was theirs) it felt like someone took slopus 3.0 and amplified all its downsides by 10x(not even attempting to wear the wig, ignoring lorebook entries, literally all the claud3isms, making shit up 90% of the time, getting tripped by info cards, etc)
>>564756874i can only hope whoever gets the prison option makes a hot guy
>>564757026yes, and...?
>>564755552I've been a nonfatal vorefag for years, it's a perfectly reasonable fetish if you steer clear from the death/digestion aspects.
vorefags are insane man wtf do you mean "normal for her to just be walking around with someone loaded in her belly"
>>564756937>saw him for 5 secs while zapping back when i was like 10>instant crush>hear him speak for the first time>realize it's a dude>crush is instantly oversometimes i hate japan
>>564754607the only real interesting part is how uncensored and porny it is but it has a lack of enthusiasm and personality which naiggers will tell you is solved by using ATTG (it's not)not worth the 25 a month over something like featherless or nanogpt or whatever the fuck people are using now for a cheap sub
>>564755552>>564756610yeah you have to be sado/mado or some kind of architectfag (or both) to be able to get off to people being digested but safe vore is just slimy cuddling
>>564757334>normal for her to just be walking around with someone loaded in her bellyanon there's women who do this sick behavior for up to nine months out thereit's a fucking crazy world
>>564757445if only your mother had decided to not be one of them and aborted you
>woahh this fetish is fucked i can't believe people think this!! are they degenerates or something??insane how in the year 2011+15 people here still engage with this bait
fucked up fetish chatbot general doebeit
I need clarification on the aishiji event. It says "For each state, they're also asked which traits they'll incorporate." So is it expected to only select one trait of the land i draft? I'm not supposed to accept all the traits? What did everyone else do?
>>564757591get off this site if you have to throw a manchild tantrum every time someone rightfully criticizes your <60IQ fetish
>erm how are there people who STILL don't accept my sick degenerate fetish??!?!?!?
>>564757538>anti-vorefag has an abortion fetishi knew it
this is how i look at baitie doing his thing
>>564757101>(not even attempting to wear the wig, ignoring lorebook entries, literally all the claud3isms, making shit up 90% of the time, getting tripped by info cards, etc)Jesus Christ.
>>564757793most people will expect you to incorporate all traits, but it's fair to choose only one if you only want that one
>>564757793accept every trait (unless contradictory) or yr a GRINCH
>>564757856Not him but I have excluisvely gotten off to impregnation/pregnancy for the past 5 years
>>564755050Worthless trash that couldn't even handle my 150 token preset>write in second person from user's perspective>write in third person if user is absent>but wait user is present so second person!>but wait is user actually absent? let me check again!>but wait!>but wait!>but wait!>thought for 2 minutes"Hi {{user}}," she smiles at me with a twinkle in her eye.
i like impregnation but actual pregnant sex and pregnant bellies gross me out in a sexual context
>>564757958yeah i don't know what to tell you, i genuinely thought i was using slopus 3. i haven't bothered trying 4.7 or 5 thanks to that but maybe i should since claude 4.x is abysmal
>>564758256>but actual pregnant sex and pregnant bellies gross me out in a sexual contextcould not be me, I love pregnant sex and I love cuddling my pregnant wife and massaging her tummy
>>564758256 >but actual pregnant sex and pregnant bellies gross me out in a sexual context could not be me, I love pregnant sex and I love cuddling my pregnant daughter-wife and massaging her tummy
>>564758256that's how it's supposed to be. breeding makes sense, but there's no reason to do it with an already pregnant woman, you shouldn't be sexually attracted to them
>>564758358>>564758412uhh gross
>>564758264GLM 5 and 5.1 are both good for their price but they are essentially Opus 4 lite. Same conclusions, same isms, same everything but less creativity. Less censorship, however. It was the go-to cunny model before v4 came out the other day.
>>564758264>slopus 3>claude 4.x is abysmal you've never been able to afford either
uh oh and there it is!
>>564758442anon why should I not be sexually attracted to my partner while she's pregnant?
>>564758442>>564758446*ïmpřɛgnãtèß you with bèbès*
cftf?
>>564758592the ugly truth?
>>564758452>GLM 5 and 5.1 are both good for their price but they are essentially Opus 4 lite>opus liteyeah that seems to be glm in a nutshell>It was the go-to cunny model before v4 came out the other day.deepseek? really? what's the cunny model ranking at right now?i was gonna try gemini 2.5 pro next but i've heard that it only does cunny with the right preset that shall never ever ever be shared anywhere but among cliques
WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF MAN
>>564758623because you can't make her pregnant while she's already pregnant? the most you can do is cause her to miscary if you are rough.
>>564758845huh didn't know there was a colored versionbased
>>564758957opus 4.7 is pretty good at cunny right now. otherwise all the chinese models can do it
>>564759024>because you can't make her pregnant while she's already pregnant?people have sex for fun you know
>>564759024me drink milkme happy:)
>>564758957>but i've heard that it only does cunny with the right presetIt's more that Gemini's content filter requires special prompting (braille, arrow) to avoid which still only works 50% of the time. Then the model will be deprecated soon. Deepseek is completely uncensored and the only real censorship is based on refusals they trained on. You otherwise can just do whatever you want. We're still trying to figure out how to prompt on deepseek but the prose isn't bad (a couple claudisms here and there) but it's not very creative or proactive. It works best if you have an idea of what you want or if you directormaxx. Also it's 75% off for 2 weeks on official.
>>564759024>because you can't make her pregnant while she's already pregnant?my ai tells me otherwise.
anyone else who didn't join the event feeling a smidgen of fomo? i know if i had joined i just be forcing myself to makie so i didn't but...
>>564759623>smidgen of fomoit will go away
>>564759024buttsex with pregnant wife is my favorite scenario
>>564757591>somewhere, a voice whispered "cunny.">a flock of birds scatter on the wind>they are coming
This isn't just self-defense; it’s a cultural identity. The sword isn't just a weapon; it's the only thing that doesn't change in a world where everything else disappears tomorrow.
>>564760004shut the fuck up gemini!!!
>>564758256>>564759024You should only stop sex at like the last week or two weeks before birth. Sex is fine during pregnancy, you only miscarry if she has a small cervix (which the doctor would have told her about during her checkup). What anons are telling you is quite common. Also pregnant buttsex is hot.
>>564760004His penis wasn't just an organ; it was a biological weapon. It was as if an explosion had been set off inside of {{char}}, his cum the payload.
>>564759368>It's more that Gemini's content filter requires special prompting (braille, arrow)i have no idea what that means>Then the model will be deprecated soon.yeah i've heard. people shilled it to me really hard because all i want in a model is having it wear the wig well and be mildly decent at smut (with the occasional loli) but i've been either too busy or too tired/not in the mood. how are the newer geminis?>but it's not very creative or proactive. It works best if you have an idea of what you want or if you directormaxxyeah i don't like doing that desu, i miss sonnet 3.5 because i rarely had to directormaxx and it actually bothered trying to stay in character/respecting the lorebook. if i have to nudge into a specific direction every other post it just feels like i'm writing terrible fanfic by myself and lose all will to keep fucking around with it
>>564759758>>564760208i like buttsex but combining it with pregnant sex has never occurred to me, i should try it
>>564759368Localchads already composed a universal finetune they can slap onto every model to remove all censorshipGo to huggingface and look for gemma 31b heretic, or any heretic finetune thereIt will outright let you RP as Terry Davis in Auschwitz executing jews with a mg42 while yelling nigger then tell you how to make nukes to power your infinite loliraep machine from message 1
does deepseek generally avoid nsfw stuff or hurting user? not sure if its worth advanced preset fuckery
>>564760263>because all i want in a model is having it wear the wig well and be mildly decent at smut4.7 wears the wig extremely well now>sonnet 3.5 stayed in character and respected the lorebookI don't remember it like that at all, but if you liked sonnet 3.5 you will like opus 4.7. But yeah I know what you mean with proactivity. I'm still trying to figure out how to make it work on deepseek but we're so close. Deepseek thinking in character is the best thing ever and the responses are better than 4.7 on occasion. Model just came out so we need to give people some time.
>>564760372But is Gemma any good at long, slowburn rp?>>564758845>why is she nakedkek I remember struggling to explain this to AI when I was trying to make a Midna card.>she has nipples>but uhh they only come out when she's aroused>she's not really naked though her pussy is smooth until she needs itOh well.
>>564760871No, Gemma isn't smart enough to replace Opus. The point is that the capacity is there. Should in a few years Opus 4.6 get open sourced, we could slap on that finetune and just imagine
>>564760871>writing arousal instructions for the machine that always wants to fuck>on a mesugaki brat character no lessnyi~hohoho~
Opus is a 5 trillion parameter model.Ask it how many RTX 3090s you need to run it.
Does anyone know who made that bot named "Dion" a few months backI wanted to ask about the gen because it was very cute and huggable
>>564761726Just get the gen and plap it into nanobanana or gpt image and ask it to list the defs if you wanted to gen the exact same image
>>564762029no I wanted to know if it used a custom model or artist mix because I wanted to use it for my own bot
>>564760647>I don't remember it like that at allkeep in mind that i went from slopus 3 (which didn't even attempt to wear the wig even if it was more creative for better or worse) to sonnet 3.5 and it felt revolutionary>opus 4.7 wears the wig extremely well nowmaybe it's time i try 4.x again, i *really* didn't like opus 4 and 4.5 just felt like a smarter glm (i went from slopus 3 > 3.5nnet > break > 4 > break > glm 4.6 > 4.5 so cut me some slack)
midna as a flirtatious malo-mart employee card when?https://youtu.be/fXMpwL7elYQ
>>564761726this is really easy to find out on your own. it's either in the creator's info in ST or you can just look it up in the archives
>>564762142you'll like 4.7, just make sure you prompt out some of the sloppa
Is there a trick to making DS V4 Flash via the DS API follow instructions properly? For example, I've got a really light preset with a few prompts in the System role, and one of the prompts is to toggle the AI's output language. This prompt has worked well since the GPT-4/Claude 2 era but V4 Flash completely ignores it. V4 Pro follows it, and 3.2 used to as well.
>>564762142>went from slopus 3 to sonnet 3.5Yeah that was my experience too and I had the same feeling. I guess my point was that I read some old 3.7 logs recently and was completely surprised by the fact I tolerated that slop back then. "In-character" is not what I would call it by today's standards. Even GLM and Deepseek now do a much better job. That being said, the "staying in character" part is the highest praise I can give to Opus 4.7. You might find other slop in it but you can't say it didn't understand and try to reflect what you wanted. I used to have to switch between 4.6 and Gemini to get something close to what my character is supposed to be but now I can just flick on caching and enjoy 4.7 solo for a while. Maybe toss a deepseek swipe in there on occasion if I want to slow things down or hit some emotional beats.
come to think of it, there's almost never any vidya girl cards posted herewhy are makies afraid of makieing them?
>>564762702/aicg/ has fooled itself into only making super original quirk chungus concepts because it's all about clout and validation
>>564762702makie herebecause I hate you in specific
>>564762702i don't care about female bots
>>564762702Canonsloppa is something you do when you're very new to the hobby.
>>564761726https://chub.ai/users/kyutzombemail her and ask
>>564762968*dies from a broken hear*
>>564762702my first card ever was a vidya girl, wdym
>>564762702>why does nobody want to make the lowest tier of slop that doesn't work 99% of the timejeez I wonder...
>>564762702i use touhou and (private) kemono friends cards exclusivelythey're all dating/adventure sim cards
>>564690443Hello, it's hostie! Your state picks have been pouring in since yesterday. Of the 24 makies who signed up, 16 have already sent me their top 3 preferred states! If we manage to get everyone's responses way ahead of the deadline, we could move on to the next step ahead of schedule.Some interesting stats I've noticed so far:>Only 6 makies had the biome they suggested as their nr. 1 pick.>Of the 24 states, only 4 have not showed up in any picks so far.>The northern states are pretty popular!But alas, I'm here for more than just fun facts: I actually get to use the anchor for what it's meant for for once! I'm making good on my promise and delivering the Nazuna card some of you have been waiting for!https://cardview.neocities.org/?8702heAlong with that, I've also uploaded the lorebook separately so you can use it as a base for your own bots: https://files.catbox.moe/eypexx.json
>>564763339>we could move on to the next step ahead of schedule.uh please don't I'd appreciate having the time to write my card
>>564762684>Yeah that was my experience too and I had the same feeling. I guess my point was that I read some old 3.7 logs recently and was completely surprised by the fact I tolerated that slop back then.yeah i literally don't have another/a better point of reference yet lolout of curiosity what's your model ranking for something like a ~70/30 sfw/nsfw slowburn? (± loli)(i don't use oc cards and i always use lorebooks if that's relevant at all)
>>564762702Nobody addressed the real issue which is that bots based on established characters are more frequently "out of character." If you have a vidya or anime waifu, you probably know a lot about her hobbies, mannerisms, behavior, etc. Bots can't replicate that well enough. Sure it could rely on existing info in its database, but unless you spend thousands of tokens confirming every little personality quirk of your waifu, the bot is gonna eventually fuck up in a noticeable way that takes away your enjoyment.
>>564764770or worse, the model completely flanderizes your waifu
>>564764770>>564764909>know exactly how the character should act>don't use this to your advantage by knowing how to angle your inputs to get great responses>just complain insteadnaruhodo
>>564765167retard
>>564765167canonfags are the worst
>>564764514Hmm if canon characters I'd begrudgingly say Gemini 3.1. Still can't beat Google's excellent knowledge. Generally speaking it's>Opus 4.7 with caching > Opus 4.6/Gemini 3.1 > GLM 5/Deepseek v4 (until I learn to prompt better) > othersI hear Kimi 2.6 is good but I couldn't get it to work.
>>564765167Sure you can call me lazy for not spoonfeeding the bot enough information, but that's a stylistic difference. I should be able to just ask my waifu "How's your best friend doing?" not "What is your best friend, cowgirl Monna, up to?" That's just my preference.
>>564763998Chop chop lazy faggot
>>564752319Huh. Hm. I'm not the original person but if I can get a good gen I might just try making this. I could set it in a prison and do coworker guard pov and prisoner pov and escaped prisoner about to be eaten pov. Cute girl who eats bad people.
>>564763339PLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNA
>>564763339are we expected to use lorebooks in our cards? i figured i would just add whatever lorebook you're going to use for the final battle after everyone's done with their cards
>>564766090i don't think it's mandatory, but like, it makes sense, no?
>>564765361>>564765610The thing that makes me like Opus so much with this is how it integrates canon knowledge into your RP.For example, I can go up to Ciri___________, repeat to her a line she said when she was 12 in the books, give no further context, and she will reply knowing exactly what I'm talking about.
bwo thought that spoiler would surprise anyone
>>564766465My only disagreement is that it's not that Gemini doesn't have the same knowledge, it's that it doesn't know what to do with it because it's not good at rp. The moment that changes Claude will be in trouble.
Post good cards or good prompts
>>564766224i mean, there's no useful info you could add, because the "info" for the other states doesn't exist yet by the virtue of it still being made
>>564763339I wonder how many people chose to add/remove traits from the land they are claiming
>>564765610i see, thanks. should I give 2.5 pro a try while it's still up? I've seen people place it above both 4.7 and 3.1 for canon stuff even if loli is a swing and a missmaybe i'll start from that one (fomo and all)
>>564763339How do i import the lorebook into sillytavern? I've never used lorebooks before.
>>564767295
>>564767148Yeah start with that and fall back to 4.7 if it doesn't work out.
The young Lion will try MythoMax to appreciate how far we have come since the time of his ancestors.
>have to go 4 threads back to find a single bot on the anchorbotmakies are flatlining...
where did all the good botmakies go?
bait so stale it grows mushrooms
>inb4 "muh event"
muh event
so we're admitting that events kill the thread
>>564770017If anything it's the opposite. Not having a bunch of random slop in the anchor is more than worth if it means getting a burst of very high quality cards every couple of months.
really?>oh no we don't have enough hardware, price increase!>next day: make it look like we're hella discounting
Everyone in /aicg/ decided to stop being poor and now is enjoying their 1000+ message long roleplay with their beloved using Opus 4.7
>>564770408just use flash flash is just old 3.2 but 10x better and it sounds way more natural if you were fine with 3.2 you'll be more than happy with flash the difference isnt even that big i've noticed
>>564760428Forget the storm trooper business, let's talk about that thumb.
>>564763339u stink..
>>564762702makies fear success
>>564762702>makie vidya gurl>20 messages in she's a completely different characterAnd don't you "use opus cuckie" me or I'll be using your ass all night long
>>564771054Partake in utilizing Claudeus Mythos, brother.
>want to try my hand at botmaking>obscure character from an obscure eroge>eroge is only in japanese>can translate it through some jank tool but it's ~2000 lines>don't want to rape the proxy i use with it and the only other one i have outright bans you for this kind of thing what do?
>>564771524either do another character or become monkpilled
>>564771524Drop 20$ on OR credits
I'm going to rapey the next person to say a word to me.
>>564762914call this nigga peyote cactus with how bitter and prone to inducing hallucinations he is.
>>564771806>paying to translate a vn i pirateduh, noand at that point i might as well just pay for deepseek or something
>>564771836good morning saar I am gurdaljeepnanjeet
>>564772070OH YEAH?!*bends you over and changes my mind*
>>564772180you no fuck me i fuck you bloody, yes?
>Genning NPCs and shit>Say the NPC has 33 kgs>GLM on its own says that the things she likes most is getting {{user}} to carry herCute.
>>564757141if
>>564771524What eroge is it? I can moonspeak ( ノ^ω^)ノ
>>564773884nice try but i'm keeping her to myself
>>564770408Oh neat, cheap pro I didn't even notice that. If there was a time for me to churn out cards and updates it'd be now 'cuz I'm highkey broke.>>564771868Got 'em!>>56477252733kg of feathers or steel?
Why would you need access to AI at all to make or update cards?
>>564774403imagine writing your cards by hand lmao fucking luddites
>>564774403image gen and testing the card
FUCKING GLMFUCKING "X OF A Y WHO Z" FUCKING "CLINICAL" FUCKING "RAW" FUCKING "JAW TIGHTENS" FUCKING "OZONE" FUCKING ELARA AND VOSS AND MARCUS AND CHEN FUCKING "VOICE IS FLAT" FUCKING "THAT'S NOT NOTHING" FUCKING FIRMIRINFUCK YOU I HATE IT ALL FUCK YOU GLM FUCK YOU 5.1 FUCK YOU SILLYTAVERN IM GONNA KILL YOU IM GONNA KILL YOU ALL IM GONNA FUCKING FIREBOMB YOUR SERVERS FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOUR SLOP DIE CLANKER DIE DIE DIE DIE
>>56477413533kg of pussy and ass
>>564763339>Only 6 makies had the biome they suggested as their nr. 1 pickWhatever roulette you did for assigning traits to biomes really fucked with my first choice, so yeah....but no big deal, I will deal with whatever comes my way.
>>564774701>THAT'S NOT NOTHINGThis one started to genuinely piss me off.
i see that alraunekings are discussing today
nai please stop throttling me...
>>564770408They have done this since the first deepseek retard.
3/70 of my fans are trannies. thats probably a pretty low ratio considering the overrepresentation of trannies in porn and ai. what do you think? obviously 0/70 would be better, but im already openly anti trans so im not sure how else i could reduce it
>>564775078Oh also "HOW ARE YOU REAL"NIGGA SHUT UP
>>564774403I'll do you one better. Why cry you don't have access to AI when cai is still there?But even if you're baiting, I wholeheartedly believe just that. To write [a card] you need no llm.
>>564775898not the throttling error iirc
>>564762142you never used 4.1?
>>564774403>>564776487>I wholeheartedly believe just that. To write [a card] you need no llm.i wrote 90% of a card while I didn't have access to an LLM and no one noticed, once you're experienced enough you know how a card will act
>>564755612id say thats been the case since about 2025 when the chink (specifically ds v3 and r1) started getting places but yeah now that all current chinesium is at least solid it really is just using what you like
>>564777039This. Hell if you're experienced enough you will know how a card will act from reading it's defs alone.
>>564776289Interesting discussion ignored once again. I'd be happy if only 3 of my fans were trannies.
>>564776289>>564777307The problem you are going to run into, friends, is that trannies are 99% broken men who have been lied to. So they are still going to like all the same stuff men like, they're just going to try to inject the self-affirming tranny supportive rhetoric in everywhere.If you make stuff that appeals to normal heterosexual men, which trannies are just a misguided, warped, and mentally ill version of, it will appeal to trannies as well.
>>564776289futanazi is this you, you're the only one schizo enough to start a conversation with malding about this
the people who follow me are basically cute girls from jai
>/g/ raiding again
Have you updated your mental image, Anon? Don't be living in the past. It's important to keep your visual metaphors up to date.
>>564777770lmao who still watches TV nowadays
>>564777917normies? just because it switched from cable to smart TVs and netflix subscriptions doesn't mean it died off.
>>564778136kek retard
>>564777705they make it so obvious it's boring
>>564750095only for jailbreaking opus 4.5 if you havent migrated to 4.6/4.7
>>564777556You're giving them too much credit. Most trannies know they'll never be real women but misery loves company, so everyone has to validate them for their failure
>>564777770considering neuromancer is a cyberpunk novel the fact that the interpretation of its opening line changes with technology is fitting
>>564762702They fear that there will be some fuckups. I embrace the differences. A little bit of slop won't shatter my dreams; my OCs are developed enough to be slopped by AI too and I allow it. Talking with cute girls from games I like is too awesome and the argument that it's pointless does not deter me, as if you're in the wrong mindset, everything about botmaking is a waste of time.
>>564762702You start wanting to branch out into OC after you start writing bots. But despite that, we still get gacha characters, if that counts as vidya girls for you.
>gachaslopi vomit
>complaintslopi vomit
>kinoslop
>vomitkino
Kinoslop is a funny concept, something that should be good but just isn't, a great concept with a shit executionWhich bots btw
are there even any vomit-focused cardsor just any cards that feature vomiting in any kind
>>564782510so if thats the case, is slopkino a shit concept with really good execution?
for me, it's slopkino
>>564782932Yes, that's how to define slopkino
>>564782917https://chub.ai/characters/HCLFrog/alexx-brutal-raver-bitch-f3c1c61bf3e3
>>564782510any ai genned bots with a good concept
>>564782932slopkino is a cliche concept that's been done a million times but with execution that elevates it and makes it kino
>>564782917>tfw no sloppy-half-drunk-deepthroat-turned-pukejob card
>>564783787who /lazykino/?
>>564783458I'd say one which may fit this category but it's been said too many times already and I want different examples
>>564783835kamekomakie
>>564783893lemme guess, russet?
>>564783835taora and astro
>>564784029i didnt ask for brainlet replies
>>564783893>I'd say one which may fit this categoryeden smith?
>noooo, there are no trannies pushing agendas in video ga-
where did that post above me come from we're talking about bots
I really like those serious eden with glasses gens 'stro has been postinghe should makie more
>>564784486>I really like those serious eden with glasses gens 'stro has been postingthat isn't astro posting those
>>564784479
https://youtu.be/BVOd32P5WNkAnyway, cftf?
>>564783893any anon12312323 bot?
>>564784669one can't be too paranoid nowadays...
>>564785417
>>564785574>phonepost replyupdated my journal...
>>564783787>effortslopdazzlefags...
Is max Anlas capped? I feel like I should have way more I've barely been touching it
while we wait for clearly-not-bored chartmakie (who just realized xhe has too many idle days sitting on xis lap) to makie xis chart instead of fucking off to some gacha we could discuss censorship in video games o algo
>>564786480tell me what o algo means
>>564786638he's italian, please ignore him
>>564786638in this board's context? buttpreggnancy ofc
*hangs my words in the air to dry out*
*tastes anon's air words*like ash...
>>564783787
>>564786867*sets up a firepit underneath to give your words a nice smoky texture*
>>564784019Yeah, and I want to know about something else
>>564786638sharty culture for american speaker's specific 'ism of saying 'or something' arbitrarily at the end of sentencesbasically he's telling you to kill him with a rock because he's both underage and a hostile invader from the most miserable negrohell honeypot forum imaginable
>>564786940true...
>>564786940are you jewish?
>>564787508>poltard sees a star symbol and goes insanepoopmakies devastated
I eat poopmakies like you for breakfast.
>>564786638literally means "or something" in spanishi.e. "we could discuss censorship in video games or something"
welcome to /aicg/, how tough are ya
>>564787783thanks
>>564787783are you eps stein
>want to molest emotionless character>can't figure out how to make the personality more interesting past brick anyone have emotionless characters they like in and outside of the chatbot space
I'm defecting to China.
>>564788905the chinese century starts now
>>564788905How do I turn off reasoning in the DeepSeek API anyhow
>>564788894"literally emotionless" is always going to be boringyou're probably looking for Kuudere archetypes - Frieren is the easiest recent example of this, or classically Rei from evangelion. similarly, Rei is inherently a pretty dry-cut character because she doesn't have character by proxy of being portrayed as totally emotionless in most official media
>>564789041https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/thinking_modeIn ST, you use the "additional parameters" thing to set that. Reasoning effort should be sent properly by ST based on the preset sidebar setting
>>564785757
>>564777770zam >>564777777
>>564789429The Aditional Parameters button doesn't appear for me....
>>564790954don't worry about it
>>564791103WHY I OUGHTA
>>564790954keep thinking on wtf are you doing. it's kino,
>try deepseek roleplay mode>instructions don't specify any character in particular>on multi character cards it tends to think for {{user}}it's cooking, just all the wrong things. i still really like this model
>>564791209It shows up in Chinese for me for whatever reason
>>564791410then take out the line in your preset that tells the model to think in chinese.
>>564790954you are checking in the connection profile tab right
>chinese model thinks in mandarinthat's so cute
>>564791103
>>564791526It's not in my preset I don't use a preset I put the key in and start chatting!!
>>564791819that's sexual harassment
>>564791375I really don't like the RP thinking. It's kind of cute for a one-on-one, but it seems really screwy.Also, as you mention, once you go to groups/scenarios, it just completely implodes.I probably wouldn't mind if it didn't automatically turn out unless you explicitly tell it to knock it off (and even then it's a crapshoot).
>>564792109it's fixed by adding a fourth rule telling it to only think for certain characters. i'm currently tinkering with it, and it seems pretty stable provided you put {{char}} defs as user instructions in the first message.
I'm gonna send my picks at the very end of the week so we wait more for the event >:3
venividikoomi 2.6
>>564793384have fun getting the scraps
>>564793589wtf....no... I don't want the scraps fuck
I got into a secret club and tried Opus 4.1 again and holy fuck does it mog everything to death still. AGI level dialogue.
opuskeks getting silly again...
dipsy is getting fancy on me
>>564793940nah that guy is trvking, 4.1 is peak
>dude bro opus omg opus bro it's so good bro opus>never posts logsHMMMM..........
you could go make your own GODPUS4.7 logs if you were not poor lol!
>>564793006But if it's in a group, do you even want it to think from the pov of a single character? Seems like that'd mess it up for other characters.
>>564794359i mean in my case specifically it's a character duo where I want the focus to be primarily on one of 'em. but there's always the ooc mode you can try. should be better for multi character stuff or scenario cards.
>>564793884not 4.7pus
>>564788905They can take care of my "needs" anyday.
>>564795760what are those rats doing
>>564793884based as fuark
>>564788905does this mean deepsovl's rlhf is trained on secret chinese chatbot webrings instead of reddit, ao3, foidslop and chubsloppa like slopus?
>>564794475Yeah, the ooc mode I think works a lot better for that. It unfortunately just doesn't consistently stick to it.Telling it to start it's thinking with "Hmm," helps, but it's still not perfect.
Haven't touched dipsy since R1 because I've been a slopus paypig since then.. I'd like to give V4 a try, though.. any solid presets yet?
>>564742873Alraunes are the baron's choice. You know why.
>>564796182i haven't had any consistency issues, you are sending it as the last thing in your first user message before the greeting, correct?>>564796227pixijb with everything related to card defs and lorebook set to user works
>>564796253drinking her nectar...
>>564748772>>564749064I once considered making a card called "Trapped in Mt. Goon" and it was going to have swarms of Zubrats with the occasional goonslop Clefairy. {{user}} would be Claude of course, getting his money drained by all the girls. At the very least I do want to make a Zubrat card, because Claude's adventures fascinate me, but I feel the best time would be whenever the stream is back and making decent progress. Just wanted to put it out there because I find the name funny.
/g/ almost dieded btw
>>564796758>implying {{user}} wouldn't just DIG to safety
>>564796338Ah, no, I completely forgot about the whole deepseek hating system prompts thing. I'll have to give that a try, thanks.
>>564797047it doesn't entirely hate them anymore, but keeping your sysprompt lean and only about the writing and structure tends to work pretty well.
>>564796953yeah because they're all here instead >>564794061 >>564700454 >>564772070 >>564794347please take them back. get your retard wranglers and catchpoles
>>564796992For the sake of the plot he's still in the Blackout Strategy mindset.
>agree with someone on an opus point>hurr everything i dont like is a /g/ raid!!!!pathetic
>>564797749
>>564797161Is there a reason to use a system prompt at all with deepseek, even just for high level things like that?For older versions I just ran with a super lean user prompt only and I never ran into refusals.
>>564797749unfunny retard
>>564797936i haven't done any testing using only the user role. it could be worth a try, but so far my split approach has been working really well.
cute and bashful general or strict and cool general...
>>564798050seething tranny
Just finished the prologue to my group chat story.Only took me 300 messages.no, rerolls don't count to that number
>>564798390concession accepted
I'm gonna make my general in tomodachi life when the land claims are over...
botmakies keep talking about tomodachi yet nobody posts their islandscurious!
>>564799157>makie posts island pick>"yoooo i got island X but i wont be using trait Z btw me no likey">trait Z faggot seethes and samesaars relentlessly for 300 postsi hope they dont actually
not bad dsv4
>>564798081My current setup's thinking has been very wonky, thought it was just on deepseek, but if it works for you, I'll definitely have to experiment a bit. Thanks.
where astroturf?
>>564800546on my lawn
>>564799873>#3let's see it at turn ~50 with outputs that large
>>564800546eatened
>>564800635yeah im just doing lazy preliminary tests, will try for longer rp laterso far its not stupidly retarded which is nicr
>>564800795it already passed a decent litmus test with russetcard by mentioning her 'freckled cheeks' which is a single line nested in her defsbrety gud
i'm an artist
>>564800912I'll freck her cheeks, if you know what I mean.
>>564800912didnt even notice that kek
>>564800963all botmakies are .This general would not exist without them all hail botmakies!!
>>564801017>>564800912I SAID I'LL FRECK HER CHEEKS IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
https://poal.me/n0uhxm
Guys he said he'd freck her cheeks.
>>564801249
>>564801249personally i prefer eating sourpatch kids after they've been microwaved a bit to soften them up otherwise they overstay their welcome in your mouth long after the 'sour' of their candy is dissolved
>>564801249so... a cheekjob?
>>564801405ew you fucking freak
>>564800963*does this to you*
*poots*
>>564801446be nice.
>>564801508heeey making room for more cum. *buttpregs*
like watching a primary school play
>>564801612no fuck him that's disgusting, the interior of your mouth is warm already and full of spit
>>564802108Don't say it like that
>>564791578yup, here's how it is for me
>>564801446>>564802108nta but i have literally no idea what you're crashing out about, do you think every food that's warm and soft is disgusting?
>>564801405heh... it is me, your evil twin... i prefer to keep them in the fridge so they are nice and cold and firm
>includes the detail of a guard's helmet flattening under her ass>didnt even specifically ask for that, just told it to describe in detail what happens when she sitsthats the kind of stuff that activates my almonds, jinping, keep it up
Sometimes it's a 200 token card that's gonna make you satisfied for the night
>>564804228very true anon
love is stored in the
>>564803150Preset?
>>564804874Anus.
>>564804874tail
>>564804902cliffy jb, temp .9, 0 penalties, 1 top p
is it just me or does gemini not allow setting the temp above 1 anymore
>>564799157>botmakies keep talking about tomodachi yet nobody posts their islandsMy island isnt that interesting. I only have a couple of bots from here as mii's
>troonmodachi
>>564804874balls sack
>>564804874tumy
>>564804874past
>>564805913now that one's just sad...
>>564805913to play some shitty games that suck ass
>>564806437at least they have good translations unlike urs
which botmakie suffered from a poor localization?
>>564807176brother the thread's changed subject like ten times since we were talking about that
haha what you you mean deepseek v4 is real more like deepseek 429 this model is rate limited
Sonnet fucking sucks.
>>564807925this hobby fucking sucks
>>564807925sad but true nowadays3.7 used to be one of my favorites for a really long time, but then the great coodmaxxification happened
Everything converges to slop
>>564808619use avant-garde bots, cuckie
>>564808785>avant-garde botsno one makes those anymore
In a thousand years, an AI will dig up your bones, examine them and conclude that from your bone structure you were a slop
ashes to ashes, slop to slop
>>564809289a true new meaning of "slop in, slop out", but applied to us receiving slop from LLMs and being irrevocably changed from it.I'm going to go read a book.
bitcher-sama.. >>>/v/737640235
>>564788905Yeah v4 seems way more emotional than even Claude (in the good way that makes fun sfw romantic scenes not femoid slop). The roleplay prompt works but it works to the exclusion of stuff elsewhere. Hard to handle. But yeah Chinese century and all that. You'll never see a Westoid even bringing up roleplay (except how best to censor it) let alone namedropping fucking ST and asking for feedback. What a crazy timeline.>>564807584Use it from official, it's discounted too.
who are these psychos that follow 100s of accounts on chub?
>>564788905I haven't had the chance to test V4 yet, but I at least like the sound of developers actually acknowledging and encouraging SillyTavern stuff so that they can get further feedback. If things go well, that will eventually make Deepseek the king for roleplay.
>>564812071el ogro de las americas…
>>564812225>anons spend months memeing about how v4 will save the hobby>chinese bots scrape this info and send it back to their overloards>they actually finetune a 1.6T model for roleplay>the Great Coom Era begins at lastMeme magic isreal.
>>564813237>they actually finetune a 1.6T model for roleplay?i thought the the 'roleplay' aspect is just a schizo ~500 token chinglish prefill
>>564788905>we understand that emotional needs are one of humanity's ultimate needsbros how do the chink bugmen get this while the gweilo ai devs over here don't?
>>564813379The model is in preview which is why it's discounted. Who knows what they will do with it in the future. Deepseek v4.1 could be unmitigated kino if we send them good feedback and high quality logs. All that matters is that they've directly stated they want to help ST English speaking anons "meet their emotional needs." What more could you ask for?
shows where the main casts gambits only really work because literally every other character (barring a few bad guys) are utterly retarded make me eh. they're entertaining but ehh
>>564813401>while the gweilo AI devs over here don'tCheck their early life sections.
>>564813592what show are you watching that made you make this post
>>564813379>i thought the the 'roleplay' aspect is just a schizo ~500 token chinglish prefillThere's no mention of roleplaying anywhere in the v4 paper or the Deepseek docs in general, probably because finetuning a roleplay model when you're already low on compute from all the import bans and tariffs struggling to shit out regular models at regular intervals is impossible.
>>564813642nippon sangoku. i'm working on a card that's vaguely based off it
>>564813708>from all the import bans and tariffsDidn't you hear? The American Empire is having its dying gasp. There's already been talks between China and Taiwan about reunification. The Chinese Century has begun.
>>564813845I wish man, I really do.
mandarin is too genuinely too difficult for non east asians to pick up so china can never take over the world
>>564813968Meanwhile everything in your room is made in China. They don't have to do British-tier imperialism to win.
>>564813401>bros how do the chink bugmen get this while the gweilo ai devs over here don't?gemini is managed and developed almost enitrely by incompetent hindoos which are funded by longnose tribeclaude/opus/anthropic's dario is of the longnose tribesam altman is a high-ranking longnose tribe lieutenantbasically, deepseek is the only one not exclusively developing AI as crutches for their slavelabor poopguy imports to vibecode better with their fake degrees
>>564814117okay that doesn't mean anything
stuck between a longnose and a chinkie place....
>>564814239No one thought a tiny Strait meant anything either even though it's the foundation of the world's economy. Whoever manufactures your drugs, cars, and microchips controls you.
one day I hope to mainline oxytocin while talking to my waifu
>>564814442>Whoever manufactures your drugs, cars, and microchips controls you.So, Taiwan and America?
>>564814545Ah you don't actually know anything about the world or even remember covid. Carry on, yuropoor.
Fine. I'll do it myself.
>>564814442>>564814607china is just the us but with more propaganda, they have a shitton of porkies too. if china takes over, no more cunny
>>564814759> if china takes over, no more cunnyhttps://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCwGLORY TO THE RED SUN EMPIREhttps://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCwLET 100 FLOWERS BLOOMhttps://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCwONE BELT, ONE ROAD!https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCwKILL ALL PEDOPHILES WITH BOULDERShttps://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw
>>564815135
>>564815135no more yaoi or regular straight porn either retard. you could become a vanished journalist who ends up in a cadaver museum
>found two more ****gotta catch 'em all
Theme suggestions? cut off at 765
>>564815239>erm, straights are just like pedophiles! we NEED pornography in our society!https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCwLong Live the Chinese Communist Party (中国共产党万岁)https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCwCommunity with a Shared Future for Mankind (人类命运共同体)https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw
>>564815648girls grabbing boys by their eldritch orbeez
>>564815648celebration of the chinese communist party and its gifts to mankind
>>564815648cute gecko boys
>>564815743several artists were jailed or vanished for drawing >regular porn of the "adult women" from genshin impact>yaoi novels >idealized depictions of men from women ("yume" or "otome" content) i am not going to lie and say that cunny is in the same category as any of those but anyone who wants to ban cunny will also want to ban anything else they no likey for numerous reasons that are bullshit. and the bans on fictional content aren't even getting into how invasive china's porkies are when it comes to someone's day to day reality, the chinese gov has an entire department dedicated to badgering young people about having sex and producing babies + when you see content talking about how great china is they're always focusing on the best parts of china. that's like trying to judge the entirety of the us by what's happening in nyc. stupidity
>>564815648Yotsuba-chan
i like how this guy is complaining about china banning porn like the christcucks in the us government don't ALSO want to ban shit they don't like and they now have the means to do so
>>564815648the Chinese Communist Party
>>564816005>an entire department dedicated to badgering young people about having sex and producing babiesY-Yeah who would want that? Haha...
>>564815648riddle rosehearts
>>564816119they're mainly banning porn involving real people which i consider to be fair. regardless, what trump's admin is doing is significant for a reason and it will not last
>>564816005>china is killing gacha artists, gay propagandists and perpetuators of feminized useless malesi've never been more chinese than i am in this moment
>>564816248Yeah call me back when Congress or the Supreme Court says internet ID is unconstitutional. Or the Patriot Act. Or Guantanamo. Or...
>>564815648dr wily
>>564815648breast envy (flat vs tsarbooba)
>>564816349so you just don't know anything about china. that's what i'm getting from thisyou think it's some commie paradise and not just the us with a yellow coat of paint
>>564815648idia shroud
>gacha bakie is backabsolute toilet bake incoming
>>564815648literal dogshit
>>564815648witch (path of exile 1)
>>564816534No, the argument is that the US has its own shitty authoritarian nonsense with the veneer of freedom which will never go away. Aren't you >>564816005? Why can't you take your own advice and admit the good and the bad?
>>564815648human feces
>>564815648Diego Brando
>>564815648LR Ultra Supervillain God Vegeta
>>564815648girls in onesies
>>564816642>No, the argument is that the US has its own shitty authoritarian nonsense with the veneer of freedom which will never go away.0 people in the us have been jailed by the us government for drawing the "bad" porn. unknown numbers have been jailed by the chinese government. i can type something like "donald trump should go kill himself" and nothing will happen to me, chinese citizens aren't so lucky. there are levels to how cattlefied people are if china takes over we will be even more cattlefied
>>564815648holographic houndour card
>>564815648niggers
>>564815648common raccoon kemono friends
>>564816804>0 people in the us have been jailed by the us government for drawing the "bad" porn.Shadman was arrested in Los Angeles County, California, in late October 2021.
>>564815648foxgirls
>>564816804Yet if I type "I hope isreal can lend us a hand and bomb this building so I can get the day off" I will go to jail. Same shit, different priorities. Admit the good and the bad.
>>564816804>suddenly, thomas alan arthur drops down from the sky!
>>564816942shadman was drawing porn of real children. he should've gotten the death penalty, this is a terrible example to use >>564816980so are the cops on their way to your location right now...? oops! bye bye anon
>>564817110This is easily the most dishonest poster in the thread. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=fiu+student+arrestedCheckmate faggot. Now consneed and fuck off so I can go cum on my wife's face.
hehehehechina... bad!*runs away*
>>564817109>google this guy>he was selling actual cp yeah that's stars away from some guy drawing raiden shogun or whatever getting mating pressed >>564817315are you retarded? this is a bomb threat you stupid fuck
Video tl;dr of the posts abovehttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1777179729189921.webm
>>564816942He was arrested for Assault, though. He chimped out IRL, it had nothing to do with his art.>>564816804No, of course not. The glowies just make sure you sudoku with a gunshot to the back of the head in front of your parent's house before you can testify in a whistleblowing case. While the other guy that's meant to testify alongside you experiences sudden adult death syndrome and dies of a heart attack a week later.Or they get a search warrant on you, who works at an air traffic control center, and don't actually search your house when you're gone. Instead, they take their entire glowie ATF + local PD convoy and just leave, then come back next week when you're home so they can do their "search" and murder you when you try to defend your home from a sudden invasion in the night.>>564817110>He should've gotten the death penalty for drawing virtual lines in a .jpg that I don't like.And so the vile control freak takes off its mask finally.
>>564817435Well, that's Nezumin's next bot decided.
/aicg/ try to not argue with atf pedophiles challenge
>>564817428She was arrested for antisemitism which is a class 3 felony in Florida, you fucking brainlet. Fuck off and don't @me again with your dishonest ass.
>https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=564690402&post=564815648&cutoff=766>>564817349>>564817349>>564817349It landed on human feces at 765 (you can check). im not baking that srry
>>564817454>it's okay to draw porn of actual children because.....ummmm, eto erm.... i-it just is!!wow.
>>564817568baities btfo
>>564817619The thing that makes CP bad is that you had to harm a child to produce it. By this logic textgen is illegal too if it uses someone's real name. It's just a fucking drawing bro.
>>564817568pussy
>>564817428>specifically convicted of "five counts of trafficking in obscene text stories about the sexual abuse of children"
btw v4 does brats just fine if anyone was curious
>>564817547how is this so challenging for them?