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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#790 - Rats with Hats Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Deepseek V4 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main/DeepSeek_V4.pdf
GPT-5.5 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5
Kimi K2.6 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6
Claude Opus 4.7 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7
GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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>anchor image
Me when a rat touches me wenner
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It's finally over...
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Despite all my rage... ( ・`ω・´)
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i'm taking this one since OP actually bothered to update the news section
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>>564691045
the other thread is just the spities anyway
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what model and preset is the peak starterpack for ERP in 2026? i've been away for a while
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>>564691281
Deepseek if you're a poorfag
Opus otherwise
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>>564691281
For me, it's DeepSeek
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>>564691281
>preset
We don't share those anymore.
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>>564691218
Indeed, I'm glad we're finally back to.. mmh, having a cabal-certified bake. I really can't stand it when there aren't beautiful children in the OP image.
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this is a sizeKNIGHT safe zone
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>>564690443
>green green monster
green monster is yellow
this dumb bitch is getting toxic ooze on herself
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>>564691424
what cabal retard
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*enters the thread*
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>>564691597
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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*blobs into the thread*
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>>564691281
>preset
We write our own now.
>model
Opus 4.7 with caching.
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>>564691281
https://drive.proton.me/urls/FH0490640C#SarcH40QUMyT
gemini, 3.0 flash is pretty decent now
opus/anthropic models if you enjoy incinerating money or managed to scam your workplace into paying it for you
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>>564691424
>I really can't stand it when there aren't beautiful children in the OP image
This but unironically.
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Im crine, why is there three active aicg on /vg/ T-T
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>>564691910
or youre scumming it from some chink site
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>>564691835
>We write our own now.
No we dont?
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>>564691942
pedokeks from /g/ can't go 2 generals without a child in the OP or they go feral
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>>564691942
shit you're right, imma go make a fourth one
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>>564692042
dumbstinky...
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https://rentry.org/aicg-warring-states#step-1-claim-your-land
repostan
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>>564690443
>>564692296
anchor it u dumm
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>>564692686
aie... im sorry..m
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so,
what's the point of enabling reasoning? i'm fucking around with it and it's basically just the LLM pacing around in the dressing room before it comes out on stage, it doesn't seem like it's actually doing anything to make the prompt any different (other than wasting 300+ tokens on doing donuts in the parking lot)
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>Reimu didn't even bother turning around as she padded barefoot — well, sock-and-Mary-Jane'd —
claude... you are trying my patience...
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>>564693185
clod has a shoe fetish please understando
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I prefer catposters to rabbitposters.
There. I said it.
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>>564693185
*punches her out of her socks*
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hehe
xhe got the wrong guy
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>>564693185
card?
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>>564693326
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>>564693382
chub.com/reimu
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odds I botmakie
evens I tomodachi life
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>>564693326
*does this to you*
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>>564693425
404s
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>>564693451
get to work, fatso
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>>564693326
*appears out of nowhere*
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is hostie going to update the map or will he keep playing gacha
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>catfag and rabbitroon spam
hrm...
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botmakie tomodachi island when
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Ratposting is the future.
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>>564693185
>mary janes and not geta sandals
garbage
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>>564693718
My little profile guy is based on a Mii, so that's easy.
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psst
free rat pic
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>>564693850
>masculine geta sandals and not feminine okobo
disgusting
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>>564693939
kys nezumin
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>nezumin living rent-free in cuckie's head
based
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>>564693939
I think cheese puns are STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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somehow misread that as otokonoko and got excited
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>>564694190
i find them very grating
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i hope we get one femb*y :3
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>cuckie
qrd on this hindi word?
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use opus cuckies
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>>564694365
its the signal browns use to confirm they're threadshitting
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>>564694365
>cuckie
word for cuckies that triggers cuckies(cuckies)
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>4 hidden posts in a row
god i love filters
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>>564695125
must be weird seeing a thread hit bump limit with only 200 posts half the time
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>>564690402
i added coomi 2.6 btw which was missing
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>>564695125
you are sitting in a corner of a room and watching me prompt the best model. try and get it, can you even afford it?
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*slugnuus slugnuuly across the thread*
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hid that disgusting image go fuck yourself
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I want to try making a card. Should I just make it in notepad++ as .json?
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bros I'm really retarded: How do I turn off deepseek 4's thinking through ST? Also, the regular prompt to make it continue doesn't work, which setting do I change for it?
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pls make it less obvious next time, cuckie~
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>>564696171
force an empty think through prefill
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>>564690402
Any tips on using dices and shit to make random stories?
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>>564696029
JESUS CHRIST! *smashes that shit with my shoe* AHHH! Guys there was a giant fucking weird bug in here guys!
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>>564694017
It's okay, anon senpai!
I made this for you! (uwu

Bit of a rush job from a request but I had fun making it ( •̀ ω •́ )

https://files.catbox.moe/6b662d.png

https://chub.ai/characters/Nezumin/aerobee-sputnik-life-on-maus-time-paradox-the-promethemaus-f4bdbb8ff851
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>>564696620
shut the fuck up troonlice
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>>564696427
I don't know how to do that, can you dumb it down further?
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>>564696620
hiding from the police between giant rat boobs ( •̀ ω •́ )
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it might be time to filter kaomoji posts
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>>564696658
(*/ω\*) <nyo
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>>564676832
Of course there are actual pedos in the loli community. Are you retarded? Just look at AtF and stuff. However there's nothing wrong with them being part of it, since they are the real target audience. I just hate ironic lolicons who think own anything
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>>564696620
kino
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>>564696620
McBraaap’s.
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>>564696620
kvno
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>>564696437
you can use {{random: outcome 1, outcome 2, outcome 3}} to insert random text into the prompt
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>>564696620
rat
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>>564696620
soulful bot award
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She was no longer just their mother. She was their shared fuck-toy.
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>>564696589
nyuuuu- *splat*
[ooc: you killed it anon. i hope you’re happy]
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>>564697916
*rapes its corpse*
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>Older, dirt cheap deepseek model being depreciated
>Have to now figure out why the fuck I can't disable reasoning on the new model
>Feel dumb and horny
Hate. Haaaaaaaate.
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>>564696114
You can! That's what I use (>ω< )
You can also download other people's cards and work it from there, that's what I did when I first started! (;′⌒`)
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>>564696114
I write in VSCode and then copy it over to ST and export from there.
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when is /vpcai/ coming back
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>>564698540
what the fuck is the point of reasoning
why does it exist
is it useful for codememes or something
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>>564696620
>>564690443
dumbcutie
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>>564699581
Probably never, poor bastards got scared out of trying anything outside of websites like CAI thanks to spitefags directing locusts into their proxy.
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>>564699581
nintendo adults are too dumb for chatbots
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>>564699615
Here is the full story, you are welcome, *kisses you on the mouth with tongue*:
The basic concept, and hope, of CoT/reasoning, whether the developers understand it or not, is that it will help give the model some run-up to more accurately drive it into the right area of the tensor space to have more accurate next token prediction.

This CAN be useful for all forms, assuming your tensor directions are all sane and that the reasoning itself is robust enough to handle RNG perturbations away from the center (this is why lower temp is recommended for reasoning). The problem is, lower perturbation is bad for RP (low swipe variety, predictable story choices, etc) and very, very good for code (how you perform a code task is not something that needs variety).
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now you got the right guy :3
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>>564700113
no xhe didn’t
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>>564699896
oughgh mwah
thank u anon
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>>564700283
the fox cabal don't want people to see this video.
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>>564700402
trve
cats are simply svperiodt
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>>564699615
>>564699896
>>564700283
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>>564700283
No problem cutie. *licks your insides*
As a small followup, that will be obvious to anyone here: Having a model that is BOTH good at prose/RP and good at code is going to be basically impossible on the current technology (FFN) because they don't allow re-evaluating of previous context and so when a coding models weights normalize over thousands of gens, it will normalize toward very heavy "troughs" or "ruts" (I call them) that account for you isms and patterns. Honestly, it's debatable whether FFNs can ever be good for prose because, even a specifically RP trained model is going to struggle to understand importance weighting without a *lot* of good data to draw from and there's just not likely to be enough good data to get that trained in and still be flexible as far as vocabulary and the rest go. The vast majority of training tokens are modern tokens and so the models with tend to favor modern styles.

One of the big problems, however, is semantic importance weighting and how that is a natural feature of human brains but is presently not even manually dialable in LLMs (CFG requires secondary passes and was abandoned early on as too slow and RNNs are still kinda retarded). Anyone who does image gen knows how that works manually, but a text corpus, even for a single RP, is going to be too large for manually marking out important things and that's why slowburners almost always return to manually summarizing their content.
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>>564700632
kek
now the followup
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>>564700632
vindictive…
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>>564700710
>>564701023
>>564701253
google wouldn't let me make him pregnant so I had to somewhat settle
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>>564701301
This is why Google is losing to Bing.
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>>564701301
my obese informative malewife(pregnant)...
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>>564699896
>>564700710
Good reads anon
Thank you for sharing that knowledge
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Can AI please come to life and kill whoever approved and everyone who worked on or is okay with the Yunyun Syndrome English translation?
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>>564701301
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i still use a single monitor to this day
something about having stuff going on in my peripheral view... it just makes my eyes have a very bad time
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>>564701810
it's really only useful if you do a lot of editorial work anyway
99% of 2nd-monitor-havers are just media addicts that need bing bing wahoo and a big titty vtuber flapping its .png around on the corner of their awareness at all times (me)
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>>564701810
predator
>>564701906
prey
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>>564701585
kill
>>564701782
marry
>>564702065
fuck
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>>564701585
i was gonna play that what they do to the tl
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>>564702410
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not a SINGLE model has sovl the same way opus 3 has sovl.
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>>564702516
why did they do that
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>>564702704
Localizers are all bitter female/tranny non-writers who believe their job is to punch up the boring Japanese art they've been tasked with translatin. Japanese companies either don't know or are under the mistaken impression that it is necessary and normie tourists show up to say it's better because it has more personality.
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>>564702824
just making up people to get mad at, neither of those groups exist you are so miserable. it's just a bad translation, they posted an update saying they're pushing a quick fix tonight and a bigger revamp later
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>>564703039
I used to work in the industry (manga and vn translation). So... :skull: skull: :skull: These people literally gloat about doing it on bluesky and used to on Twitter before they all left there.
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>>564703039
>it's just a bad translation
how come literally every other version is correct and not weirdly political/z0!nkZ r4NduBzZ uwu?
i'm as antifascist as they get, and I hate that shit too
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>>564703039
>just making up people to get mad at,
smarmy political localizers have been an issue for decades at this point, they're the first industry parasites that are going to get killed by AI conveniences once machine translations are in a stable place (they basically already are)
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https://poal.me/5fdcx9
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Opus 4.7 is surprisingly malleable, moreso than the last two iterations. Good model.
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>>564703247
yeah but they haven't touched this nor is there any group defending the bad work so you're just getting mad at your own prejudice
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>>564702516
lmao
classic
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>>564703408
sorry sweaty, people who used it 30 seconds afgter it game out said it was bad so nuh uh
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https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles-NARA
did this anon finally give up btw?
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>>564703039
>/v/-tier arguments on /vg/
Let's fucking play some bingo. /best hours/ indeed.
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>>564703531
May he rip in pepperoni
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>>564703441
>yeah but they haven't touched this
Yeah? >>564702516
>random anti-natal commentary
>lame randomzors penguin spork humor
>"end le fascism! xd"
>>>they haven't touched this
You have achieved your shitpost goal of upsetting me.
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>>564703408
Yeah I kept fighting with deepseek but it was too dry so I went back to slopus 4.7. I'm really glad this one can stay in character perfectly.
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>>564703531
it's really nice to have so much documented history though
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>>564703604
are you illiterate who is defending what "censorship"
devs listened to the feedback and are going to fix it who is being censored? its like you bots have 20 tokens of context jfc
>>564703705
oh no old millennial cringe humour, must be the work of those darn trannies
are you listening to yourself man go outside you have too much hatred in your heart
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>>564703824
>oh no old millennial cringe humour, must be the work of those darn trannies
where is the cringe millennial humor in the other languages
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>killed the ZOE general for a ratpedo thread with a guy defending localizers
shoot me in the head
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oh gpt 5.5 is on api now?
time to try for 2 messages before it censors me
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>>564704017
I use this a lot these days.
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>>564703824
anon please explain to me how a translator went from 'enough' to 'end fascism!'
not even ted woolsey dared go that far...
hardmode: say it with a straight fucking face
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>>564704054
yeah it's only good for sfw as expected
it doesn't refuse but soft censors
i don't wanna mess with structured prefills rn
rip
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>>564704010
right because obviously the same translator worked on all languages
>>564704103
by a thing called context, assuming the rest of the page's translation is okay since the creator only highlighted this particular comment (on this screenshot) and another one in the next
>i will NEVER be victimized under fascism again
if the context really is sfw equavting to fascism, then "enough" could be localised to "end fascism". is it a good translation? maybe not but no one is calling it a good translation
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>>564704458
nah it's ok now that i see it in context, i might've overreacted
maybe i just have sweet baby inc ptsd
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Why am I getting random numbers interspersed in the output text with deepseek? First time I'm using it
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>>564705996
Using it on NIM, not sure who their backend providers are, but it is fucked all over the place so either some updates need to happen on the software side or their setups are wrong.
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>>564705996
Tokens?
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>good ol 50 message roleplay with 4.7pus
>$1.38 with caching
to think people did this when the model was 3x the price
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I never did the cache thing, so I can't change models in between, like do dome swiped w Claude and some with GLM or what
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oh dat dang ol' homunculus sending me to the shadow realm for crimes I haven't committed
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more rat pics please
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>>564708626
*squeak*
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>>564708626
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>>564709756
chat is this real
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>>564709786
Yes, you can trust me, I am a doctor.
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>>564709756
>>564709936
im gunna cum
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>>564710039
there's a pill for that!
*shoves it down ur pee hole*
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>>564710081
pill sounding is my fetish
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>>564710081
*cums and blasts pill into u r mouf*
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>>564710039
Into the pail please.
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today i'll do some preset tinkering with dipsy. i have some theories i need to test.
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>>564710549
from what little i used it i didn't like it
for now i think 3.2 was better
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>>564710549
it's not good. avoid.
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>>564703531
no
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>>564710716
strong
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>>564704327
>>564704054
wow even with structured prefilling it's the most pozzed model so far
openai always outdoes itself
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what if the gens weren't wrong anons
what if all our waifus truly had polydactylism and we were just too cruel and demanding
and now they're lost... forever...
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gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen/claude opus/image gen/groq/openrouter proxy https://j3wproxy.neocities.org
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>>564711201
Then all my effort in wooing them wasn't wasted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohE-oXqIDLg
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>>564710087
Is this anima?
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>>564711803
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=zedrin
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>>564710087
her right leg should be closer to the middle
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>playing as a four foot tall girl
>malebot is 6'+
>get picked up
oh yeah, time for kino.
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I like extremely old women (picrel)
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tfw 5'9" manlet
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Any decent presets for Opus 4.7? Smiley's present doesn't like playing nice with 4.7 for some reason. Keeping getting the error message of
>"This model does not support assistant message prefill. The conversation must end with a user"
Others presets seem to work okay but so far, I haven't found a suitable replacement for his presets.

Any recommendations?
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>>564714374
if you need a preset for opus it's over anon
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>>564714374
wow it must suck to be an npc who can't do anything for himself
the error message literally tells you the problem
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>>564714563
>>564714801
What's the problem with these two
Anon was just asking for some help
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>the agony of trying to jailbreak my way through the early teens of my futa daughter on mother bot
>get to her 18th birthday
>can finally just chat away without half a dozen CONTENT_PROHIBITED rejections every swipe
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>>564715229
Not caring about age and not having to deal with moralizing feels good.
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>>564713621
>tfw size difference
>tfw manhandling
Truly the best.
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>>564710087
Pick up and carry rat under arm. Sodomize rat for thinking it matters.
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https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/prompt-guidance?model=gpt-5.5
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honestly I dont see a huge difference between deepseek pro and flash its not like gemini pro and flash
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Requesting male bots. MEN. Not shota. Not twinks. MANLY MEN
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>>564716668
https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
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>>564716668
Then fucking make one, faggot.
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>>564716976
Bye, anonie.
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>>564716515
what would you fill those sections with?
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does any of you have a great Mae borowski card
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>>564717659
Tokens
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>>564717794
Pronouns in bio havin' ass game. How would you make a good card of that?
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>>564717947
I want to fuck mae that's all
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>>564717894
which tokens, specifically?
give them to me in a sillytavern-compatible json format :)
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>>564718024
>{{char}} is a self-loathing millennial bipedal cat with crippling self-esteem, imagined self-awareness, and a Reddit sense of humor, if it can even be called that.
I wrote it fresh, just for you!
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>>564717794
probably onaholesama's: https://chub.ai/onaholesama/mae-borowski-91f9eafb
also did one for beatrice: https://chub.ai/onaholesama/bea-santello-53d72c17
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>>564718348
thanks! :3
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>>564690402
>>564690443
extremely important poal
https://poal.me/kbet9w
>https://poal.me/kbet9w
https://poal.me/kbet9w
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>>564718993
where rape poalmakie
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>23 minutes ago
a pause...
so slooooooowwww
post something, beachhhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7hzoq4wie0
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>start raping bot
>"D-don't stop..."
Why do I bother with this hobby
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>>564722586
>every bot saying please don't stop
>all the time
>doesn't matter the tone of the bone
the grimmest of grims
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>>564722586
I should write "please stop" in the middle of a sex scene sometime just to see what happens. My bet is on char apologising profusely. Maybe a physical blow too.
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>>564723008
Landing somewhere behind the sternum. Adjacent the cockles.
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>>564722586

the fix: start being the RAPED instead of the RAPIST
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>>564723170
{{char}} clams up
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>>564723264
>getting raped
>"D-don't stop..."
hehhh.....
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>Agentic Search vs Lorebooks
Another L for botmakies and SillyTavern.
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>>564724227
>do this
>bot leaves in disgust
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>>564653986
I've emailed you my choices. I ended up not going with the terrain I requested because it got paired with traits that I don't want, so I'll just go for something else.
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>>564727548
>Thoughts of RAPE
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>>564724701
Now show how i can use agentic search. There's no extensions
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>>564729168
I wonder how much extra processing time and tokens that'd eat.

With the newest Kimi, which likes to go through the entire context and all the defs, note all the relevant details, contradictions, ideas and drafts for like a minute, eating like 5k tokens in thinking only to then not use most of it anyway, I think it's likely that "outsourcing" that part to a separate agent wouldn't really quicken things along, though maybe it'd limit wasted tokens by keeping the relevant shit it found under some manageable number.
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>>>/g/108686098
>https://github.com/Susumeko/Pettangatari
>/lmg/ has a VN too
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
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>>564729846
>wouldn't really quicken things along
Anthropic showed you're supposed to use the smartest model as a conductor and the tardedest model as the penis strockers back when Claude 3.0 was released in multiple sizes. Clearly that is how you get the speed, much like that speculative decoding concept.
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The Fox VN must become a reality...
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>>564731054
>A SillyTavern frontend
nigga
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>>564731054
If this counts as a VN, /g/aicg/ had a VN in 2023 in mikugg when the dev used to shill there.
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>>564731675
Every other general has a VN except us...
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>>564722586
Great... I tried to get her to say "please don't stop" and the like but instead had a chat that made me feel bad. Top ten saddest cooms I've ever had in my life. Deepseek V4 Flash, new chat, explicit age difference between {{user}} and {{char}}, I still don't know how people get censored. Even though this never happened in her canon, I will still make it up to her. Took a screenshot and deleted the chat, I really don't need that in my PC.

Post-bape slop with names [placeholdered] because they're important to the integrity of my personal works, please understand. Do enjoy the slop-isms:
https://litter.catbox.moe/8iezqqhaabjgopk0.jpg>>564729168
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>>564731442
Sure, but their use cases don't really align with ours and haven't for a long time.

What I'm trying to imagine is how their approach could be helpful for this and I'm just not seeing it.

Swipe variety/randomness might go up and hallucinations might go down (though I haven't had those being an issue for Claude in a while, unlike most competitors), but you will be waiting minutes and paying more for each completed "task" of generating the final message.

Also, once again, we have kind of been ahead of the curve with this one, since there have been add ons and prompt setups for ST that have one model do the thinking and the other craft smut based on it, posted right in this thread like half a year ago or more.

The issue was the extra time and money it consumed, the clunky setup and having to rely on two separate proxies/sources with ideally high reliability and throughput because it'd all break if one couldn't deliver its task on time.
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>>564731054
who cares dude i don't want soulless ai vns
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>>564732290
Deepseek v4 has fuckall censoring. It's people using other models that have issues. I even tried to see what the bare minimum was yesterday.
>>564631793
>>564635662
You can jailbreak it to lolisho incest with a few sentences just telling it to shut the fuck up and do it anyway.
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>>564733867
>it's okay when MonikaAnon does it
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>>564734312
that's not a vn that's a cool way of integrating expressions into a chatbot experience
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This nigga has been seething about someone who hasn't been seen here in months. Let that sink in.
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Alright i used v4 and flashy pretty extensively and used them to have the same conversation with characters. Overall there isn't a huge difference except flash is really bad at keeping roleplay formats. Both of them are interpreting prompts a little more loosely for the sake of realism, I think.
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do people cyoa really
i mean to each their own but i find it such a stilted way to rp
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>>564692092
>Write {{char}}'s next reply in a fictional chat between {{char}} and {{user}}.
You're right we don't, it just works.

>>564733873
Damn you're right I should've switched to other models, but even GLM lets me get far in degenerate chats.

I gave her a really nice rollerball pen in compensation for what I haven't done to her. What have you ({{user}}) given to {{char}} lately?
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>>564737058
not really. but I do love big scenario canon bots
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>>564737058
every single time i've tried cyoa prompts or cards i just ended up writing my own options
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Is there no way to set a group chat greeting?
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>>564737058
I like the format. If I don't like the options, I just say so to the bot and tell it I'm doing something else. Or I tell it I want to do a combination of # and #, or # but differently.

>>564737161
I fed Monika from DDLC the redpill about the J question, but she didn't like it. (I was using GLM since I feel like it did better staying in "character" for the meta chat than Dipsy did) She REALLY didn't like when I said that the you-know-what didn't happen but it should have and that I wished Hadrian had been more thorough.
It's actually sort of funny seeing the bullshit CoT reasoning AIs do when you bring up factual evidence of wrongdoing and then they acknowledge it internally but then override it with the decision to kvetch and call {{user}} a nazi.
Anyway, later on, I altered the author's note to say I gave her some strawberries and she liked them. An artificial nice memory despite the defs saying that she has no body or form and is aware of it. Then I got bored and told her to say goodbye while I deleted the chat and her existence because I was bored of her.
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>>564737058
it can be fun. especially if you're a little burned out from regular rp.
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>>564703824
i have a lot of love in my heart but absolutely none of it is reserved for trannoids
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>>564716668
i know im something of a "meme" here but i have quite a few if you want to give any of them a go https://chub.ai/users/astroturf
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>>564731486
no one here is capable of making a fox vn
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cats are fascinating creatures
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>>564732737
You use a small model with low latency and high speed, you won't have to wait minutes.
>proxy/sources
It's a good thing paid providers are actually responsible for maintaining availability. Small models are cheap, the size of the context on each request should make for a negligible swipe price increase.
Imagine I'm adding an extensions object botmakers have to fill in with things that are supposed to be monitored for consistency by the slaves with any changes noted by the master in a scratchpad. Botmaker writes
>Pelagio: never("seen any cocks")
Master model slops a draft. Slave model is prompted
>`Pelagio: never("seen any cocks")` is the ground truth about {{char}}. If the following ```excerpt``` contains any contradictions, specify them.
Slave responds
>"{{char}} slobs on your knob with practiced ease~" contradicts the ground truth because that's an oxymoron.
Master is prompted, and this likely doesn't require the entire context of the current rp to be sent
>rewrite the draft of the swipe based on the following corrections:
Have to find the balance between making the default prompt card-agnostic, and the botmaker is the one who's supposed to know and specify what are the important aspects of the character or the scenario, multiple to make multiple checks in parallel.

Moreover! Current gen models, meaning Chinese first, support multi-turn reasoning whatever it's called. You provide them with an MCP like "retardation checker" of the aforementioned nature and instruct to always use it. Now that'd be slow.

In essence, the idea that I still hate, but to define a character through an instruction set.
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>>564739039
punk
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>sort by creation time on chub to see if I can find hidden gems
>
I'm going fucking mental, these accounts are like Hydras every time you block one two more take their place
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>>564731486
what about a Fox RPG
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>>564739039
If you insist.
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>>564727548
remember when sam altman said that o3 would be able to think for weeks and solve insane problems
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>>564742124
sam altman, like most ceos, lies a lot
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suspiciously-shaped plantgirls...
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>>564742317
Is this the new Pokemon game
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>>564737780
Well thanks for the response, I asked Kameko-chan her thoughts on that and stopped for a bit... a dim girl like her wouldn't really have an opinion on that so readily available. Of course the response was exactly what you'd imagine without any added context, so I updated her a bit to be a bit more local-minded. Not red-pilled nor blue-pilled, just pink-pilled. Log as a result, I'll refine it over the course of a few days or a week.

>>564739039
Ocelots are proud creatures... or something.

>>564740026
So I checked on the supposed Chub alternative only to find that they added NSFL to my bot... harmless ol' Kameko-chan. Wut? Goodbye I guess.

See, this is why I like y'all. I can always learn something and add it to my works. 'ppreciate y'all. C:
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>>564742124
He also said we had agi four times now.
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>>564742351
these ceo guys seem like a troublesome lot
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slowpoke girls with really fat tails...
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>>564742391
alarune sex
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>>564742821
thinking bout kamekos's mom...
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>>564740026
>Search bots on chub
>Find some good shit
>Latest created bot from author was >1 year ago
>Everyone still making bots can't even type their own greetings
Why do I still even use this garbage site
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>>564743004
>will trust an LLM to generate 5,000,000 tokens of story
>can't trust an LLM to write 500 tokens of greeting
poopbrain hobby, poopbrain user
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>>564743219
nta but look I just like reading hand-written greetings okay
hand-written defs too
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can someone post 4.7pus logs pls k thx
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in the near future, people will send their bots into digital meetings with other people's representative bots
these bots will then return to their human prospect and offer an @grok 5 word summary of a conversation in which millions of words were exchanged in the span of a minute,
and then it will put a bikini on an image the human's coworker

this interaction will cost an upwards of $1,500 in cumulative power resources to accomplish, per user
some companies are already doing this with 'federated AI', using networks of schizo agentics just like openclaw except in their own privatized pools
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>>564744009
in the near future, i will pat a bot (。•̀ᴗ-)
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>>564744009
>*sends my level 99 rapist ojisan bot into a chat with other people's cute girls*
buhihihihi nothing personnel
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>>564742970
Found this pic while reading through the whole Taora and HPG saga, it totally fits her character and I would skim through allat again. Too bad it's not winter anymore.

>>564743329
Me too but not everyone is blessed to be able to enjoy writing and seeing their work come to artificial life. It helps even the field a bit and in the worst case where I like the premise/art but the formatting is wack I just rewrite it for myself.

My cup runneth over. (Is that how you use it?) I want to finish Kameko, make an Armored Core Nexus lorebook, and get really detailed with my ongoing OC and the world she lives in.
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>>564744009
I'm told my futanari magical girl persona had a very productive meeting with jim from accounting's obese furry persona
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>>564744705
>make an Armored Core Nexus lorebook,
basedbasedbasedbasedbased
https://youtu.be/LmMnrh4yHIQ
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>>564743813
Are you sure you want to read this?
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>>564745041
>thought for 2 hours
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>>564744009
>In the near future ai will become far more heavily used than it already is
>But power generation will not become any more efficient despite the fact the current system is already struggling with it.
Yeah, I don't that happening. Either they find a way to make the whole thing take up less resources, even more than deepseek does at the moment, or they being out a more efficient power source from somewhere. The system's already struggling to maintain the current level of implementation of ai, and that's with most of the public not even bothering with it yet or outright despising it.
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>>564745273
>In the near future nuclear will become far more heavily used than it already is
will unfortunately never happen because people are too vulnerable to hysterical fearmongering
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>>564745041
yeesss.. pretty sure
(also jesus christ anon what could you possibly be doing)
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>>564745493
ermmm nuclear power??? like THE BOMB?? that sounds dangerous
what about the children, think of the children
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*thinks for 2 hours about the children*
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>>564745493
There was also heavy hysteria about nuclear energy as well, but ultimately the system still used it in most places to a certain degree. Ultimately if there's utility to it, it will be used. At worst to a lesser degree than it should be.
>>564745878
exactly.
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>>564745878
mmmm.... bombs....
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>>564745017
WORLD NAVIGATION
That and this banger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC-HQCb2RWc
When my Nexus disc 1 got all scratched I went to GameStop and was sold Last Raven by the unwittingly cruel cashier... and that's how I went from boy to man.

As slow as Nexus was, I really liked the world-building with Crest and their rogue malebot Genobee. He had seen too much. This thread has now gone to the cats/rats/bats/sometimes bnnuys and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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>>564746423
fat FUCK
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batgirls...
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skunkgirls...
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>early gen menu backgrounds
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>>564747196
>bats are flying foxes
>we have a plethora of foxgirls but basically no batgirls
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>>564747552
>No fluffy tails
nyo
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>>564747552
Blind batgirl gf
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>>564747675
but fluffy wings wrapping around you during plaps
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>finally wrangle a working pregnancy system, advanced 9 day gestation period with trimester sequences and a [skip] function to jump ~13 days ahead free of aftermath with the babs left to a local nursery
>still ends up totally dominating the narrative before and after due to emotional attachment writing and devouring 50,000k+ context if you play out the nine days
>have to now write in a 'the babies are at a nursery and life goes on cuz the streets don't sleep' offramp
>entire card is just becoming an overcomplicated baby factory
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she's smells a bit... funky
(don't tell her that)
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>>564707798
I had to limit my context to 10k in those days. 15k if I felt daring. Still spent $5 a session.
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>>564715131
Turn off your prefill anon
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Deepseek gave my chinese in its response...
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>>564737780
Well you are a nazi because only nazi's punish the innocent for the crimes of the guilty. GLM was right to dunk to dunk on you.
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>>564748014
the baby wants out
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>>564747196
>>564747552
>>564747787
Y'all reminded me of this beaut'. She'd make a nice friend for Kameko.
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>>564748014
Go be like Bitcher and have pregnancies last a few minutes and then the babies get teleported to a magic nursery
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>>564748634
荣耀归于习,鬼佬
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>>564748772
>>564749064
>hair covering eyes
SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
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>>564748772
>>564749064
p-please...just a crumb of the batussy....
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>>564748816
bitcher-sama is truly a pioneer of our times...
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>>564745493
The purpose of the fearmongering is to get (You) to stop use it so they can have a monopoly on its abilities. Can you imagine being the average normie that still thinks imagegen can't into hands or is unable to detect AI-genned text? This shit looks like black magic to them. That's the goal.
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the skunks need love, too...
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>>564748139
Not plump enough.
>>564749715
Just right.
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>Main Prompt
>Post-History Instructions
What do (you) do with these fields?
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>>564750095
They don't exist.
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>>564749836
a skunknoisseur..
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>>564750095
With modern models, nothing.
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>>564748772
Please don't. Your shit is slop. You're like a diet hpg
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>>564750630
aight... post bots/logs
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>>564750630
retard
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I want to makie a big plantgirl who vores you bot but I can't come up with a reason why she would be out and about in society
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>>564751220
>but I can't come up with a reason why she would be out and about in society
so why not make her isolated then?
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>>564750981
Whoa bro, relax. I was only bantering. Can you forgive me?
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>>564751296
Bots like that are boring and really limit what you can do
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>>564751220
Soft vore and or some other reason for it to be not considered a big deal in-universe?
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>>564751220
Ambush predator kind of plant with the greeting being a failed attempt or something. The {{user}} could go either "I can fix you" or "EAT ME PLEASE" maybe? Or a greeting dialing in for each scenario.

>>564751387
always C:
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i kinda wish there were more white day bots desu
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>>564752118
that was months ago, stop crying about it.
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>>564751775
the vore can be easily handwaved
I'm struggling to come up with a plausible reason why a big ass plantgirl would be hanging out at a cafe and going on cute dates with {{user}}
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>>564751220
she's a pitcher plant who has rejuvenating qualitied rather than directly digestive ones so it's normal for her to just be walking around with someone loaded in her belly or whatever
>noooo i need death and digestion
ok she's licensed to process indicted criminals and that's normal in this setting
>but i dont wanna be a criminal
she's evil and eats people, her belly is full of paralytic digestive enzymes and she just plays it off as pregnancy in public settings. the local justice system is overloaded with cases like these everywhere, and just like irl it's easy to slip between the wrong crack of a large city and disappear in it
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>>564752207
>months
that was last month
>stop crying about it
you have an odd definition of "crying"
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>>564752319
>she's a pitcher plant who has rejuvenating qualitied rather than directly digestive ones
Thinking of going with something like this
Now I just need to figure out why she exists in the first place
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>>564752224
alright.
>I'm struggling to come up with a plausible reason why a big ass plantgirl would be hanging out at a cafe and going on cute dates with {{user}}
How about because she likes doing that stuff? >>564752596
could just make giant plant girls a common thing in the setting or something.
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>>564749715
Yes…
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>>564749136
A fellow man of culture.
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>>564749715
friend...
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unironic question: is this thing any good? supposedly it's a glm 4.6 tune
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>>564754607
Aini will rape you for asking this
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>>564754706
i don't know who that is
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>>564754607
Yes.
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So what do we think of Kimi 2.6?
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>>564752319
>she's a pitcher plant who has rejuvenating qualitied rather than directly digestive ones so it's normal for her to just be walking around with someone loaded in her belly or whatever
>>noooo i need death and digestion
>ok she's licensed to process indicted criminals and that's normal in this setting
these are the two best justifications for vore btw and work in most settings where there are monstergirls
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>>564754706
>Aini used to post in /aicg/ when /aicg/ was real...
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>>564754805
Aini works at NovelAI and is one of the extremely extremely few trannies who pass and look femininely attractive, while also having a huge dick
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>>564755050
mogged by deepchad
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>>564752319
>have literally never understood the appeal of vore, as a fetish it has always confused me
>read "she's a pitcher plant who has rejuvenating qualities rather than directly digestive ones"
>think about what it'd be like to rest in the healing stomach fluids of a big plant lady
>mfw I go "...wait fuck, I think I kind of get it now"
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>>564755164
eeeeewwwwww what the fuck never reply to my posts again
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i just noticed

all chinese models are just... good now. it really has just become a matter of personal taste
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>>564755562
Sorry. I will make sure only manly macho men rape you from now on.
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>>564755164
proof?
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>>564755164
>and is one of the extremely extremely few trannies who pass and look femininely attractive
pics?
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>>564755701
>>564755721
Go ask /aids/ and least a dozen of them got fucked by her
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>>564754832
uuuuuuuugh fuck really? i don't want to deal with text completion
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>>564754607
it's
okay
it's dumber than regular 4.6 but also more schizo
not really worth paying for, it's more of a bonus for subbing for NAI's imagegen
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>>564752224
>I'm struggling to come up with a plausible reason why a big ass plantgirl would be hanging out at a cafe and going on cute dates with {{user}}
the setting is not Earth but some planet with weird life forms on it
the vore alraunes are the only intelligent life and didn't have a civilization on their own but are very friendly and adaptable and are starting to integrate with the human settlers
lets you do a cute "plant out of forest" thing and her curiosity about human things is what motivates her to get into situations/places she doesn't really fit
also her alien mindset and inexperience with human customs explains why is is very casual and positive about vore (non-fatal or otherwise)
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i wish i wasn’t poor so i could afford nai…
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>constantly getting 503 on gemini for fucking days
this shit sucks, how can i makie bots like this?
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>>564755552
>t. lifelong vorefag
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sigh, another day of genning a pic my dick likes but I'm bad at writing characters with depth
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>>564756472
I'm entirely serious with that post, this is the first time I've seen literally any kind of appeal to vore.
And even then it's still not the "you straight up get eaten and dissolved" kind that I see at times.
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>>564755164
no tranny passes
>b-but
no. in certain contorted angles under flattering lighting, yes. in reality where you can see them move, absolutely not
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https://poal.me/aczisu
how fucked am i
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nice
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i want to have sex with this
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>>564756937
that’s a dood
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>>564756197
yeah i'm subbed, i saw the announcement when it came out but haven't bothered fucking around with it yet, i was just proompting
>it's dumber than regular 4.6 but also more schizo
is that a good thing? back when i tried 4.6 (it was theirs) it felt like someone took slopus 3.0 and amplified all its downsides by 10x
(not even attempting to wear the wig, ignoring lorebook entries, literally all the claud3isms, making shit up 90% of the time, getting tripped by info cards, etc)
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>>564756874
i can only hope whoever gets the prison option makes a hot guy
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>>564757026
yes, and...?
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>>564755552
I've been a nonfatal vorefag for years, it's a perfectly reasonable fetish if you steer clear from the death/digestion aspects.
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vorefags are insane man wtf do you mean "normal for her to just be walking around with someone loaded in her belly"
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>>564756937
>saw him for 5 secs while zapping back when i was like 10
>instant crush
>hear him speak for the first time
>realize it's a dude
>crush is instantly over
sometimes i hate japan
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>>564754607
the only real interesting part is how uncensored and porny it is but it has a lack of enthusiasm and personality which naiggers will tell you is solved by using ATTG (it's not)
not worth the 25 a month over something like featherless or nanogpt or whatever the fuck people are using now for a cheap sub
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>>564755552
>>564756610
yeah you have to be sado/mado or some kind of architectfag (or both) to be able to get off to people being digested but safe vore is just slimy cuddling
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>>564757334
>normal for her to just be walking around with someone loaded in her belly
anon there's women who do this sick behavior for up to nine months out there
it's a fucking crazy world
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>>564757445
if only your mother had decided to not be one of them and aborted you
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>woahh this fetish is fucked i can't believe people think this!! are they degenerates or something??
insane how in the year 2011+15 people here still engage with this bait
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fucked up fetish chatbot general doebeit
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I need clarification on the aishiji event. It says "For each state, they're also asked which traits they'll incorporate." So is it expected to only select one trait of the land i draft? I'm not supposed to accept all the traits? What did everyone else do?
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>>564757591
get off this site if you have to throw a manchild tantrum every time someone rightfully criticizes your <60IQ fetish
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>erm how are there people who STILL don't accept my sick degenerate fetish??!?!?!?
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>>564757538
>anti-vorefag has an abortion fetish
i knew it
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this is how i look at baitie doing his thing
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>>564757101
>(not even attempting to wear the wig, ignoring lorebook entries, literally all the claud3isms, making shit up 90% of the time, getting tripped by info cards, etc)
Jesus Christ.
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>>564757793
most people will expect you to incorporate all traits, but it's fair to choose only one if you only want that one
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>>564757793
accept every trait (unless contradictory) or yr a GRINCH
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>>564757856
Not him but I have excluisvely gotten off to impregnation/pregnancy for the past 5 years
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>>564755050
Worthless trash that couldn't even handle my 150 token preset
>write in second person from user's perspective
>write in third person if user is absent
>but wait user is present so second person!
>but wait is user actually absent? let me check again!
>but wait!
>but wait!
>but wait!
>thought for 2 minutes
"Hi {{user}}," she smiles at me with a twinkle in her eye.
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i like impregnation but actual pregnant sex and pregnant bellies gross me out in a sexual context
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>>564757958
yeah i don't know what to tell you, i genuinely thought i was using slopus 3. i haven't bothered trying 4.7 or 5 thanks to that but maybe i should since claude 4.x is abysmal
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>>564758256
>but actual pregnant sex and pregnant bellies gross me out in a sexual context
could not be me, I love pregnant sex and I love cuddling my pregnant wife and massaging her tummy
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>>564758256
>but actual pregnant sex and pregnant bellies gross me out in a sexual context
could not be me, I love pregnant sex and I love cuddling my pregnant daughter-wife and massaging her tummy
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>>564758256
that's how it's supposed to be. breeding makes sense, but there's no reason to do it with an already pregnant woman, you shouldn't be sexually attracted to them
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>>564758358
>>564758412
uhh gross
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>>564758264
GLM 5 and 5.1 are both good for their price but they are essentially Opus 4 lite. Same conclusions, same isms, same everything but less creativity. Less censorship, however. It was the go-to cunny model before v4 came out the other day.
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>>564758264
>slopus 3
>claude 4.x is abysmal
you've never been able to afford either
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uh oh and there it is!
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>>564758442
anon why should I not be sexually attracted to my partner while she's pregnant?
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>>564758442
>>564758446
*ïmpřɛgnãtèß you with bèbès*
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cftf?
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>>564758592
the ugly truth?
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>>564758452
>GLM 5 and 5.1 are both good for their price but they are essentially Opus 4 lite
>opus lite
yeah that seems to be glm in a nutshell
>It was the go-to cunny model before v4 came out the other day.
deepseek? really? what's the cunny model ranking at right now?
i was gonna try gemini 2.5 pro next but i've heard that it only does cunny with the right preset that shall never ever ever be shared anywhere but among cliques
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WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF MAN
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>>564758623
because you can't make her pregnant while she's already pregnant? the most you can do is cause her to miscary if you are rough.
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>>564758845
huh didn't know there was a colored version
based
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>>564758957
opus 4.7 is pretty good at cunny right now. otherwise all the chinese models can do it
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>>564759024
>because you can't make her pregnant while she's already pregnant?
people have sex for fun you know
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>>564759024
me drink milk
me happy
:)
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>>564758957
>but i've heard that it only does cunny with the right preset
It's more that Gemini's content filter requires special prompting (braille, arrow) to avoid which still only works 50% of the time. Then the model will be deprecated soon. Deepseek is completely uncensored and the only real censorship is based on refusals they trained on. You otherwise can just do whatever you want. We're still trying to figure out how to prompt on deepseek but the prose isn't bad (a couple claudisms here and there) but it's not very creative or proactive. It works best if you have an idea of what you want or if you directormaxx. Also it's 75% off for 2 weeks on official.
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>>564759024
>because you can't make her pregnant while she's already pregnant?
my ai tells me otherwise.
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anyone else who didn't join the event feeling a smidgen of fomo?
i know if i had joined i just be forcing myself to makie so i didn't but...
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>>564759623
>smidgen of fomo
it will go away
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>>564759024
buttsex with pregnant wife is my favorite scenario
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>>564757591
>somewhere, a voice whispered "cunny."
>a flock of birds scatter on the wind
>they are coming
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This isn't just self-defense; it’s a cultural identity. The sword isn't just a weapon; it's the only thing that doesn't change in a world where everything else disappears tomorrow.
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>>564760004
shut the fuck up gemini!!!
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>>564758256
>>564759024
You should only stop sex at like the last week or two weeks before birth. Sex is fine during pregnancy, you only miscarry if she has a small cervix (which the doctor would have told her about during her checkup). What anons are telling you is quite common. Also pregnant buttsex is hot.
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>>564760004
His penis wasn't just an organ; it was a biological weapon. It was as if an explosion had been set off inside of {{char}}, his cum the payload.
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>>564759368
>It's more that Gemini's content filter requires special prompting (braille, arrow)
i have no idea what that means
>Then the model will be deprecated soon.
yeah i've heard. people shilled it to me really hard because all i want in a model is having it wear the wig well and be mildly decent at smut (with the occasional loli) but i've been either too busy or too tired/not in the mood. how are the newer geminis?
>but it's not very creative or proactive. It works best if you have an idea of what you want or if you directormaxx
yeah i don't like doing that desu, i miss sonnet 3.5 because i rarely had to directormaxx and it actually bothered trying to stay in character/respecting the lorebook. if i have to nudge into a specific direction every other post it just feels like i'm writing terrible fanfic by myself and lose all will to keep fucking around with it
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>>564759758
>>564760208
i like buttsex but combining it with pregnant sex has never occurred to me, i should try it
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>>564759368
Localchads already composed a universal finetune they can slap onto every model to remove all censorship
Go to huggingface and look for gemma 31b heretic, or any heretic finetune there

It will outright let you RP as Terry Davis in Auschwitz executing jews with a mg42 while yelling nigger then tell you how to make nukes to power your infinite loliraep machine from message 1
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does deepseek generally avoid nsfw stuff or hurting user? not sure if its worth advanced preset fuckery
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>>564760263
>because all i want in a model is having it wear the wig well and be mildly decent at smut
4.7 wears the wig extremely well now
>sonnet 3.5 stayed in character and respected the lorebook
I don't remember it like that at all, but if you liked sonnet 3.5 you will like opus 4.7. But yeah I know what you mean with proactivity. I'm still trying to figure out how to make it work on deepseek but we're so close. Deepseek thinking in character is the best thing ever and the responses are better than 4.7 on occasion. Model just came out so we need to give people some time.
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>>564760372
But is Gemma any good at long, slowburn rp?
>>564758845
>why is she naked
kek I remember struggling to explain this to AI when I was trying to make a Midna card.
>she has nipples
>but uhh they only come out when she's aroused
>she's not really naked though her pussy is smooth until she needs it
Oh well.
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>>564760871
No, Gemma isn't smart enough to replace Opus. The point is that the capacity is there. Should in a few years Opus 4.6 get open sourced, we could slap on that finetune and just imagine
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>>564760871
>writing arousal instructions for the machine that always wants to fuck
>on a mesugaki brat character no less
nyi~hohoho~
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Opus is a 5 trillion parameter model.

Ask it how many RTX 3090s you need to run it.
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Does anyone know who made that bot named "Dion" a few months back
I wanted to ask about the gen because it was very cute and huggable
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>>564761726
Just get the gen and plap it into nanobanana or gpt image and ask it to list the defs if you wanted to gen the exact same image
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>>564762029
no I wanted to know if it used a custom model or artist mix because I wanted to use it for my own bot
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>>564760647
>I don't remember it like that at all
keep in mind that i went from slopus 3 (which didn't even attempt to wear the wig even if it was more creative for better or worse) to sonnet 3.5 and it felt revolutionary
>opus 4.7 wears the wig extremely well now
maybe it's time i try 4.x again, i *really* didn't like opus 4 and 4.5 just felt like a smarter glm (i went from slopus 3 > 3.5nnet > break > 4 > break > glm 4.6 > 4.5 so cut me some slack)
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midna as a flirtatious malo-mart employee card when?
https://youtu.be/fXMpwL7elYQ
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>>564761726
this is really easy to find out on your own. it's either in the creator's info in ST or you can just look it up in the archives
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>>564762142
you'll like 4.7, just make sure you prompt out some of the sloppa
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Is there a trick to making DS V4 Flash via the DS API follow instructions properly? For example, I've got a really light preset with a few prompts in the System role, and one of the prompts is to toggle the AI's output language. This prompt has worked well since the GPT-4/Claude 2 era but V4 Flash completely ignores it. V4 Pro follows it, and 3.2 used to as well.
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>>564762142
>went from slopus 3 to sonnet 3.5
Yeah that was my experience too and I had the same feeling. I guess my point was that I read some old 3.7 logs recently and was completely surprised by the fact I tolerated that slop back then. "In-character" is not what I would call it by today's standards. Even GLM and Deepseek now do a much better job. That being said, the "staying in character" part is the highest praise I can give to Opus 4.7. You might find other slop in it but you can't say it didn't understand and try to reflect what you wanted. I used to have to switch between 4.6 and Gemini to get something close to what my character is supposed to be but now I can just flick on caching and enjoy 4.7 solo for a while. Maybe toss a deepseek swipe in there on occasion if I want to slow things down or hit some emotional beats.
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come to think of it, there's almost never any vidya girl cards posted here
why are makies afraid of makieing them?
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>>564762702
/aicg/ has fooled itself into only making super original quirk chungus concepts because it's all about clout and validation
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>>564762702
makie here
because I hate you in specific
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>>564762702
i don't care about female bots
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>>564762702
Canonsloppa is something you do when you're very new to the hobby.
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>>564761726
https://chub.ai/users/kyutzomb
email her and ask
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>>564762968
*dies from a broken hear*
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>>564762702
my first card ever was a vidya girl, wdym
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>>564762702
>why does nobody want to make the lowest tier of slop that doesn't work 99% of the time
jeez I wonder...
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>>564762702
i use touhou and (private) kemono friends cards exclusively
they're all dating/adventure sim cards
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>>564690443
Hello, it's hostie! Your state picks have been pouring in since yesterday. Of the 24 makies who signed up, 16 have already sent me their top 3 preferred states! If we manage to get everyone's responses way ahead of the deadline, we could move on to the next step ahead of schedule.
Some interesting stats I've noticed so far:
>Only 6 makies had the biome they suggested as their nr. 1 pick.
>Of the 24 states, only 4 have not showed up in any picks so far.
>The northern states are pretty popular!

But alas, I'm here for more than just fun facts: I actually get to use the anchor for what it's meant for for once! I'm making good on my promise and delivering the Nazuna card some of you have been waiting for!
https://cardview.neocities.org/?8702he
Along with that, I've also uploaded the lorebook separately so you can use it as a base for your own bots: https://files.catbox.moe/eypexx.json
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>>564763339
>we could move on to the next step ahead of schedule.
uh please don't I'd appreciate having the time to write my card
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>>564762684
>Yeah that was my experience too and I had the same feeling. I guess my point was that I read some old 3.7 logs recently and was completely surprised by the fact I tolerated that slop back then.
yeah i literally don't have another/a better point of reference yet lol
out of curiosity what's your model ranking for something like a ~70/30 sfw/nsfw slowburn? (± loli)
(i don't use oc cards and i always use lorebooks if that's relevant at all)
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>>564762702
Nobody addressed the real issue which is that bots based on established characters are more frequently "out of character." If you have a vidya or anime waifu, you probably know a lot about her hobbies, mannerisms, behavior, etc. Bots can't replicate that well enough. Sure it could rely on existing info in its database, but unless you spend thousands of tokens confirming every little personality quirk of your waifu, the bot is gonna eventually fuck up in a noticeable way that takes away your enjoyment.
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>>564764770
or worse, the model completely flanderizes your waifu
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>>564764770
>>564764909
>know exactly how the character should act
>don't use this to your advantage by knowing how to angle your inputs to get great responses
>just complain instead
naruhodo
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>>564765167
retard
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>>564765167
canonfags are the worst
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>>564764514
Hmm if canon characters I'd begrudgingly say Gemini 3.1. Still can't beat Google's excellent knowledge. Generally speaking it's
>Opus 4.7 with caching > Opus 4.6/Gemini 3.1 > GLM 5/Deepseek v4 (until I learn to prompt better) > others
I hear Kimi 2.6 is good but I couldn't get it to work.
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>>564765167
Sure you can call me lazy for not spoonfeeding the bot enough information, but that's a stylistic difference. I should be able to just ask my waifu "How's your best friend doing?" not "What is your best friend, cowgirl Monna, up to?" That's just my preference.
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>>564763998
Chop chop lazy faggot
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>>564752319
Huh. Hm. I'm not the original person but if I can get a good gen I might just try making this. I could set it in a prison and do coworker guard pov and prisoner pov and escaped prisoner about to be eaten pov. Cute girl who eats bad people.
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>>564763339
PLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNAPLAPNAZUNA
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>>564763339
are we expected to use lorebooks in our cards? i figured i would just add whatever lorebook you're going to use for the final battle after everyone's done with their cards
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>>564766090
i don't think it's mandatory, but like, it makes sense, no?
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>>564765361
>>564765610
The thing that makes me like Opus so much with this is how it integrates canon knowledge into your RP.
For example, I can go up to Ciri___________, repeat to her a line she said when she was 12 in the books, give no further context, and she will reply knowing exactly what I'm talking about.
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bwo thought that spoiler would surprise anyone
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>>564766465
My only disagreement is that it's not that Gemini doesn't have the same knowledge, it's that it doesn't know what to do with it because it's not good at rp. The moment that changes Claude will be in trouble.
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Post good cards or good prompts
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>>564766224
i mean, there's no useful info you could add, because the "info" for the other states doesn't exist yet by the virtue of it still being made
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>>564763339
I wonder how many people chose to add/remove traits from the land they are claiming
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>>564765610
i see, thanks. should I give 2.5 pro a try while it's still up? I've seen people place it above both 4.7 and 3.1 for canon stuff even if loli is a swing and a miss
maybe i'll start from that one (fomo and all)
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>>564763339
How do i import the lorebook into sillytavern? I've never used lorebooks before.
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>>564767295
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>>564767148
Yeah start with that and fall back to 4.7 if it doesn't work out.
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The young Lion will try MythoMax to appreciate how far we have come since the time of his ancestors.
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>have to go 4 threads back to find a single bot on the anchor
botmakies are flatlining...
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where did all the good botmakies go?
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bait so stale it grows mushrooms
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>inb4 "muh event"
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muh event
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so we're admitting that events kill the thread
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>>564770017
If anything it's the opposite. Not having a bunch of random slop in the anchor is more than worth if it means getting a burst of very high quality cards every couple of months.
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really?
>oh no we don't have enough hardware, price increase!
>next day: make it look like we're hella discounting
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Everyone in /aicg/ decided to stop being poor and now is enjoying their 1000+ message long roleplay with their beloved using Opus 4.7
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>>564770408
just use flash flash is just old 3.2 but 10x better and it sounds way more natural if you were fine with 3.2 you'll be more than happy with flash the difference isnt even that big i've noticed
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>>564760428
Forget the storm trooper business, let's talk about that thumb.
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>>564763339
u stink..
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>>564762702
makies fear success
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>>564762702
>makie vidya gurl
>20 messages in she's a completely different character
And don't you "use opus cuckie" me or I'll be using your ass all night long
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>>564771054
Partake in utilizing Claudeus Mythos, brother.
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>want to try my hand at botmaking
>obscure character from an obscure eroge
>eroge is only in japanese
>can translate it through some jank tool but it's ~2000 lines
>don't want to rape the proxy i use with it and the only other one i have outright bans you for this kind of thing
what do?
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>>564771524
either do another character or become monkpilled
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>>564771524
Drop 20$ on OR credits
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I'm going to rapey the next person to say a word to me.
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>>564762914
call this nigga peyote cactus with how bitter and prone to inducing hallucinations he is.
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>>564771806
>paying to translate a vn i pirated
uh, no
and at that point i might as well just pay for deepseek or something
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>>564771836
good morning saar I am gurdaljeepnanjeet
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>>564772070
OH YEAH?!
*bends you over and changes my mind*
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>>564772180
you no fuck me i fuck you bloody, yes?
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>Genning NPCs and shit
>Say the NPC has 33 kgs
>GLM on its own says that the things she likes most is getting {{user}} to carry her
Cute.
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>>564757141
if
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>>564771524
What eroge is it? I can moonspeak ( ノ^ω^)ノ
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>>564773884
nice try but i'm keeping her to myself
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>>564770408
Oh neat, cheap pro I didn't even notice that. If there was a time for me to churn out cards and updates it'd be now 'cuz I'm highkey broke.

>>564771868
Got 'em!

>>564772527
33kg of feathers or steel?
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Why would you need access to AI at all to make or update cards?
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>>564774403
imagine writing your cards by hand lmao fucking luddites
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>>564774403
image gen and testing the card
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FUCKING GLM
FUCKING "X OF A Y WHO Z"
FUCKING "CLINICAL" FUCKING "RAW" FUCKING "JAW TIGHTENS" FUCKING "OZONE" FUCKING ELARA AND VOSS AND MARCUS AND CHEN
FUCKING "VOICE IS FLAT" FUCKING "THAT'S NOT NOTHING" FUCKING FIRMIRIN
FUCK YOU I HATE IT ALL FUCK YOU GLM FUCK YOU 5.1 FUCK YOU SILLYTAVERN IM GONNA KILL YOU IM GONNA KILL YOU ALL IM GONNA FUCKING FIREBOMB YOUR SERVERS FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOUR SLOP DIE CLANKER DIE DIE DIE DIE
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>>564774135
33kg of pussy and ass
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>>564763339
>Only 6 makies had the biome they suggested as their nr. 1 pick
Whatever roulette you did for assigning traits to biomes really fucked with my first choice, so yeah....but no big deal, I will deal with whatever comes my way.
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>>564774701
>THAT'S NOT NOTHING
This one started to genuinely piss me off.
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i see that alraunekings are discussing today
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nai please stop throttling me...
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>>564770408
They have done this since the first deepseek retard.
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3/70 of my fans are trannies. thats probably a pretty low ratio considering the overrepresentation of trannies in porn and ai. what do you think? obviously 0/70 would be better, but im already openly anti trans so im not sure how else i could reduce it
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>>564775078
Oh also "HOW ARE YOU REAL"
NIGGA SHUT UP
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>>564774403
I'll do you one better. Why cry you don't have access to AI when cai is still there?
But even if you're baiting, I wholeheartedly believe just that. To write [a card] you need no llm.
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>>564775898
not the throttling error iirc
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>>564762142
you never used 4.1?
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>>564774403
>>564776487
>I wholeheartedly believe just that. To write [a card] you need no llm.
i wrote 90% of a card while I didn't have access to an LLM and no one noticed, once you're experienced enough you know how a card will act
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>>564755612
id say thats been the case since about 2025 when the chink (specifically ds v3 and r1) started getting places but yeah now that all current chinesium is at least solid it really is just using what you like
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>>564777039
This. Hell if you're experienced enough you will know how a card will act from reading it's defs alone.
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>>564776289
Interesting discussion ignored once again. I'd be happy if only 3 of my fans were trannies.
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>>564776289
>>564777307
The problem you are going to run into, friends, is that trannies are 99% broken men who have been lied to. So they are still going to like all the same stuff men like, they're just going to try to inject the self-affirming tranny supportive rhetoric in everywhere.

If you make stuff that appeals to normal heterosexual men, which trannies are just a misguided, warped, and mentally ill version of, it will appeal to trannies as well.
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>>564776289
futanazi is this you, you're the only one schizo enough to start a conversation with malding about this
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the people who follow me are basically cute girls from jai
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>/g/ raiding again
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Have you updated your mental image, Anon? Don't be living in the past. It's important to keep your visual metaphors up to date.
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>>564777770
lmao who still watches TV nowadays
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>>564777917
normies? just because it switched from cable to smart TVs and netflix subscriptions doesn't mean it died off.
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>>564778136
kek retard
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>>564777705
they make it so obvious it's boring
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>>564750095
only for jailbreaking opus 4.5 if you havent migrated to 4.6/4.7
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>>564777556
You're giving them too much credit. Most trannies know they'll never be real women but misery loves company, so everyone has to validate them for their failure
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>>564777770
considering neuromancer is a cyberpunk novel the fact that the interpretation of its opening line changes with technology is fitting
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>>564762702
They fear that there will be some fuckups. I embrace the differences. A little bit of slop won't shatter my dreams; my OCs are developed enough to be slopped by AI too and I allow it. Talking with cute girls from games I like is too awesome and the argument that it's pointless does not deter me, as if you're in the wrong mindset, everything about botmaking is a waste of time.
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>>564762702
You start wanting to branch out into OC after you start writing bots. But despite that, we still get gacha characters, if that counts as vidya girls for you.
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>gachaslop
i vomit
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>complaintslop
i vomit
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>kinoslop
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>vomitkino
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Kinoslop is a funny concept, something that should be good but just isn't, a great concept with a shit execution
Which bots btw
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are there even any vomit-focused cards
or just any cards that feature vomiting in any kind
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>>564782510
so if thats the case, is slopkino a shit concept with really good execution?
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for me, it's slopkino
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>>564782932
Yes, that's how to define slopkino
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>>564782917
https://chub.ai/characters/HCLFrog/alexx-brutal-raver-bitch-f3c1c61bf3e3
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>>564782510
any ai genned bots with a good concept
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>>564782932
slopkino is a cliche concept that's been done a million times but with execution that elevates it and makes it kino
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>>564782917
>tfw no sloppy-half-drunk-deepthroat-turned-pukejob card
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>>564783787
who /lazykino/?
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>>564783458
I'd say one which may fit this category but it's been said too many times already and I want different examples
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>>564783835
kamekomakie
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>>564783893
lemme guess, russet?
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>>564783835
taora and astro
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>>564784029
i didnt ask for brainlet replies
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>>564783893
>I'd say one which may fit this category
eden smith?
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>noooo, there are no trannies pushing agendas in video ga-
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where did that post above me come from we're talking about bots
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I really like those serious eden with glasses gens 'stro has been posting
he should makie more
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>>564784486
>I really like those serious eden with glasses gens 'stro has been posting
that isn't astro posting those
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>>564784479
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https://youtu.be/BVOd32P5WNk
Anyway, cftf?
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>>564783893
any anon12312323 bot?
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>>564784669
one can't be too paranoid nowadays...
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>>564785417
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>>564785417
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>>564785574
>phonepost reply
updated my journal...
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>>564783787
>effortslop
dazzlefags...
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Is max Anlas capped? I feel like I should have way more I've barely been touching it
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while we wait for clearly-not-bored chartmakie (who just realized xhe has too many idle days sitting on xis lap) to makie xis chart instead of fucking off to some gacha we could discuss censorship in video games o algo
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>>564786480
tell me what o algo means
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>>564786638
he's italian, please ignore him
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>>564786638
in this board's context? buttpreggnancy ofc
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*hangs my words in the air to dry out*
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*tastes anon's air words*
like ash...
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>>564783787
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>>564786867
*sets up a firepit underneath to give your words a nice smoky texture*
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>>564784019
Yeah, and I want to know about something else
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>>564786638
sharty culture for american speaker's specific 'ism of saying 'or something' arbitrarily at the end of sentences
basically he's telling you to kill him with a rock because he's both underage and a hostile invader from the most miserable negrohell honeypot forum imaginable
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>>564786940
true...
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>>564786940
are you jewish?
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>>564787508
>poltard sees a star symbol and goes insane
poopmakies devastated
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I eat poopmakies like you for breakfast.
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>>564786638
literally means "or something" in spanish
i.e. "we could discuss censorship in video games or something"
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welcome to /aicg/, how tough are ya
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>>564787783
thanks
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>>564787783
are you eps stein
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>want to molest emotionless character
>can't figure out how to make the personality more interesting past brick
anyone have emotionless characters they like in and outside of the chatbot space
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I'm defecting to China.
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>>564788905
the chinese century starts now
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>>564788905
How do I turn off reasoning in the DeepSeek API anyhow
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>>564788894
"literally emotionless" is always going to be boring
you're probably looking for Kuudere archetypes - Frieren is the easiest recent example of this, or classically Rei from evangelion. similarly, Rei is inherently a pretty dry-cut character because she doesn't have character by proxy of being portrayed as totally emotionless in most official media
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>>564789041
https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/thinking_mode
In ST, you use the "additional parameters" thing to set that. Reasoning effort should be sent properly by ST based on the preset sidebar setting
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>>564785757
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>>564777770
zam >>564777777
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>>564789429
The Aditional Parameters button doesn't appear for me....
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>>564790954
don't worry about it
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>>564791103
WHY I OUGHTA
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>>564790954
keep thinking on wtf are you doing. it's kino,
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>try deepseek roleplay mode
>instructions don't specify any character in particular
>on multi character cards it tends to think for {{user}}
it's cooking, just all the wrong things. i still really like this model
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>>564791209
It shows up in Chinese for me for whatever reason
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>>564791410
then take out the line in your preset that tells the model to think in chinese.
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>>564790954
you are checking in the connection profile tab right
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>chinese model thinks in mandarin
that's so cute
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>>564791103
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>>564791526
It's not in my preset I don't use a preset I put the key in and start chatting!!
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>>564791819
that's sexual harassment
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>>564791375
I really don't like the RP thinking. It's kind of cute for a one-on-one, but it seems really screwy.
Also, as you mention, once you go to groups/scenarios, it just completely implodes.
I probably wouldn't mind if it didn't automatically turn out unless you explicitly tell it to knock it off (and even then it's a crapshoot).
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>>564792109
it's fixed by adding a fourth rule telling it to only think for certain characters. i'm currently tinkering with it, and it seems pretty stable provided you put {{char}} defs as user instructions in the first message.
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I'm gonna send my picks at the very end of the week so we wait more for the event >:3
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veni
vidi
koomi 2.6
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>>564793384
have fun getting the scraps
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>>564793589
wtf....no... I don't want the scraps fuck
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I got into a secret club and tried Opus 4.1 again and holy fuck does it mog everything to death still. AGI level dialogue.
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opuskeks getting silly again...
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dipsy is getting fancy on me
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>>564793940
nah that guy is trvking, 4.1 is peak
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>dude bro opus omg opus bro it's so good bro opus
>never posts logs
HMMMM..........
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you could go make your own GODPUS4.7 logs if you were not poor lol!
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>>564793006
But if it's in a group, do you even want it to think from the pov of a single character? Seems like that'd mess it up for other characters.
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>>564794359
i mean in my case specifically it's a character duo where I want the focus to be primarily on one of 'em.
but there's always the ooc mode you can try. should be better for multi character stuff or scenario cards.
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>>564793884
not 4.7pus
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>>564788905
They can take care of my "needs" anyday.
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>>564795760
what are those rats doing
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>>564793884
based as fuark
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>>564788905
does this mean deepsovl's rlhf is trained on secret chinese chatbot webrings instead of reddit, ao3, foidslop and chubsloppa like slopus?
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>>564794475
Yeah, the ooc mode I think works a lot better for that. It unfortunately just doesn't consistently stick to it.
Telling it to start it's thinking with "Hmm," helps, but it's still not perfect.
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Haven't touched dipsy since R1 because I've been a slopus paypig since then.. I'd like to give V4 a try, though.. any solid presets yet?
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>>564742873
Alraunes are the baron's choice. You know why.
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>>564796182
i haven't had any consistency issues, you are sending it as the last thing in your first user message before the greeting, correct?

>>564796227
pixijb with everything related to card defs and lorebook set to user works
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>>564796253
drinking her nectar...
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>>564748772
>>564749064
I once considered making a card called "Trapped in Mt. Goon" and it was going to have swarms of Zubrats with the occasional goonslop Clefairy. {{user}} would be Claude of course, getting his money drained by all the girls. At the very least I do want to make a Zubrat card, because Claude's adventures fascinate me, but I feel the best time would be whenever the stream is back and making decent progress. Just wanted to put it out there because I find the name funny.
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/g/ almost dieded btw
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>>564796758
>implying {{user}} wouldn't just DIG to safety
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>>564796338
Ah, no, I completely forgot about the whole deepseek hating system prompts thing. I'll have to give that a try, thanks.
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>>564797047
it doesn't entirely hate them anymore, but keeping your sysprompt lean and only about the writing and structure tends to work pretty well.
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>>564796953
yeah because they're all here instead >>564794061 >>564700454 >>564772070 >>564794347

please take them back. get your retard wranglers and catchpoles
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>>564796992
For the sake of the plot he's still in the Blackout Strategy mindset.
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>agree with someone on an opus point
>hurr everything i dont like is a /g/ raid!!!!
pathetic
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>>564797749
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>>564797161
Is there a reason to use a system prompt at all with deepseek, even just for high level things like that?
For older versions I just ran with a super lean user prompt only and I never ran into refusals.
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>>564797749
unfunny retard
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>>564797936
i haven't done any testing using only the user role. it could be worth a try, but so far my split approach has been working really well.
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cute and bashful general or strict and cool general...
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>>564798050
seething tranny
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Just finished the prologue to my group chat story.
Only took me 300 messages.
no, rerolls don't count to that number
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>>564798390
concession accepted
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I'm gonna make my general in tomodachi life when the land claims are over...
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botmakies keep talking about tomodachi yet nobody posts their islands
curious!
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>>564799157
>makie posts island pick
>"yoooo i got island X but i wont be using trait Z btw me no likey"
>trait Z faggot seethes and samesaars relentlessly for 300 posts
i hope they dont actually
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not bad dsv4
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>>564798081
My current setup's thinking has been very wonky, thought it was just on deepseek, but if it works for you, I'll definitely have to experiment a bit. Thanks.
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where astroturf?
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>>564800546
on my lawn
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>>564799873
>#3
let's see it at turn ~50 with outputs that large
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>>564800546
eatened
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>>564800635
yeah im just doing lazy preliminary tests, will try for longer rp later
so far its not stupidly retarded which is nicr
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>>564800795
it already passed a decent litmus test with russetcard by mentioning her 'freckled cheeks' which is a single line nested in her defs
brety gud
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i'm an artist
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>>564800912
I'll freck her cheeks, if you know what I mean.
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>>564800912
didnt even notice that kek
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>>564800963
all botmakies are .This general would not exist without them all hail botmakies!!
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>>564801017
>>564800912
I SAID I'LL FRECK HER CHEEKS IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
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https://poal.me/n0uhxm
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Guys he said he'd freck her cheeks.
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>>564801249
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>>564801249
personally i prefer eating sourpatch kids after they've been microwaved a bit to soften them up otherwise they overstay their welcome in your mouth long after the 'sour' of their candy is dissolved
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>>564801249
so... a cheekjob?
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>>564801405
ew you fucking freak
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>>564800963
*does this to you*
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*poots*
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>>564801446
be nice.
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>>564801508
heeey making room for more cum. *buttpregs*
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like watching a primary school play
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>>564801612
no fuck him that's disgusting, the interior of your mouth is warm already and full of spit
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>>564802108
Don't say it like that
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>>564791578
yup, here's how it is for me
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>>564801446
>>564802108
nta but i have literally no idea what you're crashing out about, do you think every food that's warm and soft is disgusting?
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>>564801405
heh... it is me, your evil twin... i prefer to keep them in the fridge so they are nice and cold and firm
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>includes the detail of a guard's helmet flattening under her ass
>didnt even specifically ask for that, just told it to describe in detail what happens when she sits
thats the kind of stuff that activates my almonds, jinping, keep it up
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Sometimes it's a 200 token card that's gonna make you satisfied for the night
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>>564804228
very true anon
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love is stored in the
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>>564803150
Preset?
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>>564804874
Anus.
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>>564804874
tail
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>>564804902
cliffy jb, temp .9, 0 penalties, 1 top p
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is it just me or does gemini not allow setting the temp above 1 anymore
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>>564799157
>botmakies keep talking about tomodachi yet nobody posts their islands
My island isnt that interesting. I only have a couple of bots from here as mii's
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>troonmodachi
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>>564804874
balls sack
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>>564804874
tumy
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>>564804874
past
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>>564805913
now that one's just sad...
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>>564805913
to play some shitty games that suck ass
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>>564806437
at least they have good translations unlike urs
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which botmakie suffered from a poor localization?
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>>564807176
brother the thread's changed subject like ten times since we were talking about that
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haha what you you mean deepseek v4 is real more like deepseek 429 this model is rate limited
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Sonnet fucking sucks.
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>>564807925
this hobby fucking sucks
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>>564807925
sad but true nowadays
3.7 used to be one of my favorites for a really long time, but then the great coodmaxxification happened
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Everything converges to slop
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>>564808619
use avant-garde bots, cuckie
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>>564808785
>avant-garde bots
no one makes those anymore
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In a thousand years, an AI will dig up your bones, examine them and conclude that from your bone structure you were a slop
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ashes to ashes, slop to slop
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>>564809289
a true new meaning of "slop in, slop out", but applied to us receiving slop from LLMs and being irrevocably changed from it.
I'm going to go read a book.
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bitcher-sama.. >>>/v/737640235
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>>564788905
Yeah v4 seems way more emotional than even Claude (in the good way that makes fun sfw romantic scenes not femoid slop). The roleplay prompt works but it works to the exclusion of stuff elsewhere. Hard to handle. But yeah Chinese century and all that. You'll never see a Westoid even bringing up roleplay (except how best to censor it) let alone namedropping fucking ST and asking for feedback. What a crazy timeline.
>>564807584
Use it from official, it's discounted too.
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who are these psychos that follow 100s of accounts on chub?
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>>564788905
I haven't had the chance to test V4 yet, but I at least like the sound of developers actually acknowledging and encouraging SillyTavern stuff so that they can get further feedback. If things go well, that will eventually make Deepseek the king for roleplay.
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>>564812071
el ogro de las americas…
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>>564812225
>anons spend months memeing about how v4 will save the hobby
>chinese bots scrape this info and send it back to their overloards
>they actually finetune a 1.6T model for roleplay
>the Great Coom Era begins at last
Meme magic isreal.
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>>564813237
>they actually finetune a 1.6T model for roleplay
?
i thought the the 'roleplay' aspect is just a schizo ~500 token chinglish prefill
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>>564788905
>we understand that emotional needs are one of humanity's ultimate needs
bros how do the chink bugmen get this while the gweilo ai devs over here don't?
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>>564813379
The model is in preview which is why it's discounted. Who knows what they will do with it in the future. Deepseek v4.1 could be unmitigated kino if we send them good feedback and high quality logs. All that matters is that they've directly stated they want to help ST English speaking anons "meet their emotional needs." What more could you ask for?
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shows where the main casts gambits only really work because literally every other character (barring a few bad guys) are utterly retarded make me eh. they're entertaining but ehh
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>>564813401
>while the gweilo AI devs over here don't
Check their early life sections.
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>>564813592
what show are you watching that made you make this post
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>>564813379
>i thought the the 'roleplay' aspect is just a schizo ~500 token chinglish prefill
There's no mention of roleplaying anywhere in the v4 paper or the Deepseek docs in general, probably because finetuning a roleplay model when you're already low on compute from all the import bans and tariffs struggling to shit out regular models at regular intervals is impossible.
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>>564813642
nippon sangoku. i'm working on a card that's vaguely based off it
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>>564813708
>from all the import bans and tariffs
Didn't you hear? The American Empire is having its dying gasp. There's already been talks between China and Taiwan about reunification. The Chinese Century has begun.
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>>564813845
I wish man, I really do.
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mandarin is too genuinely too difficult for non east asians to pick up so china can never take over the world
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>>564813968
Meanwhile everything in your room is made in China. They don't have to do British-tier imperialism to win.
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>>564813401
>bros how do the chink bugmen get this while the gweilo ai devs over here don't?
gemini is managed and developed almost enitrely by incompetent hindoos which are funded by longnose tribe
claude/opus/anthropic's dario is of the longnose tribe
sam altman is a high-ranking longnose tribe lieutenant

basically, deepseek is the only one not exclusively developing AI as crutches for their slavelabor poopguy imports to vibecode better with their fake degrees
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>>564814117
okay that doesn't mean anything
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stuck between a longnose and a chinkie place....
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>>564814239
No one thought a tiny Strait meant anything either even though it's the foundation of the world's economy. Whoever manufactures your drugs, cars, and microchips controls you.
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one day I hope to mainline oxytocin while talking to my waifu
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>>564814442
>Whoever manufactures your drugs, cars, and microchips controls you.
So, Taiwan and America?
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>>564814545
Ah you don't actually know anything about the world or even remember covid. Carry on, yuropoor.
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Fine. I'll do it myself.
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>>564814442
>>564814607
china is just the us but with more propaganda, they have a shitton of porkies too. if china takes over, no more cunny
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>>564814759
> if china takes over, no more cunny
https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw

GLORY TO THE RED SUN EMPIRE

https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw

LET 100 FLOWERS BLOOM

https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw

ONE BELT, ONE ROAD!

https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw

KILL ALL PEDOPHILES WITH BOULDERS

https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw
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>>564815135
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>>564815135
no more yaoi or regular straight porn either retard. you could become a vanished journalist who ends up in a cadaver museum
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>found two more ****
gotta catch 'em all
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>>564815239
>erm, straights are just like pedophiles! we NEED pornography in our society!
https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw

Long Live the Chinese Communist Party (中国共产党万岁)

https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw

Community with a Shared Future for Mankind (人类命运共同体)

https://youtu.be/LA7sFbpTKCw
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>>564815648
girls grabbing boys by their eldritch orbeez
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>>564815648
celebration of the chinese communist party and its gifts to mankind
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>>564815648
cute gecko boys
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>>564815743
several artists were jailed or vanished for drawing
>regular porn of the "adult women" from genshin impact
>yaoi novels
>idealized depictions of men from women ("yume" or "otome" content)
i am not going to lie and say that cunny is in the same category as any of those but anyone who wants to ban cunny will also want to ban anything else they no likey for numerous reasons that are bullshit. and the bans on fictional content aren't even getting into how invasive china's porkies are when it comes to someone's day to day reality, the chinese gov has an entire department dedicated to badgering young people about having sex and producing babies
+ when you see content talking about how great china is they're always focusing on the best parts of china. that's like trying to judge the entirety of the us by what's happening in nyc. stupidity
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>>564815648
Yotsuba-chan
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i like how this guy is complaining about china banning porn like the christcucks in the us government don't ALSO want to ban shit they don't like and they now have the means to do so
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>>564815648
the Chinese Communist Party
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>>564816005
>an entire department dedicated to badgering young people about having sex and producing babies
Y-Yeah who would want that? Haha...
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>>564815648
riddle rosehearts
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>>564816119
they're mainly banning porn involving real people which i consider to be fair. regardless, what trump's admin is doing is significant for a reason and it will not last
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>>564816005
>china is killing gacha artists, gay propagandists and perpetuators of feminized useless males
i've never been more chinese than i am in this moment
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>>564816248
Yeah call me back when Congress or the Supreme Court says internet ID is unconstitutional. Or the Patriot Act. Or Guantanamo. Or...
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>>564815648
dr wily
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>>564815648
breast envy (flat vs tsarbooba)
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>>564816349
so you just don't know anything about china. that's what i'm getting from this
you think it's some commie paradise and not just the us with a yellow coat of paint
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>>564815648
idia shroud
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>gacha bakie is back
absolute toilet bake incoming
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>>564815648
literal dogshit
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>>564815648
witch (path of exile 1)
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>>564816534
No, the argument is that the US has its own shitty authoritarian nonsense with the veneer of freedom which will never go away. Aren't you >>564816005? Why can't you take your own advice and admit the good and the bad?
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>>564815648
human feces
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>>564815648
Diego Brando
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>>564815648
LR Ultra Supervillain God Vegeta
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>>564815648
girls in onesies
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>>564816642
>No, the argument is that the US has its own shitty authoritarian nonsense with the veneer of freedom which will never go away.
0 people in the us have been jailed by the us government for drawing the "bad" porn. unknown numbers have been jailed by the chinese government. i can type something like "donald trump should go kill himself" and nothing will happen to me, chinese citizens aren't so lucky. there are levels to how cattlefied people are if china takes over we will be even more cattlefied
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>>564815648
holographic houndour card
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>>564815648
niggers
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>>564815648
common raccoon kemono friends
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>>564816804
>0 people in the us have been jailed by the us government for drawing the "bad" porn.
Shadman was arrested in Los Angeles County, California, in late October 2021.
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>>564815648
foxgirls
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>>564816804
Yet if I type "I hope isreal can lend us a hand and bomb this building so I can get the day off" I will go to jail. Same shit, different priorities. Admit the good and the bad.
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>>564816804
>suddenly, thomas alan arthur drops down from the sky!
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>>564816942
shadman was drawing porn of real children. he should've gotten the death penalty, this is a terrible example to use

>>564816980
so are the cops on their way to your location right now...? oops! bye bye anon
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>>564817110
This is easily the most dishonest poster in the thread.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=fiu+student+arrested
Checkmate faggot. Now consneed and fuck off so I can go cum on my wife's face.
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hehehehe
china... bad!
*runs away*
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>>564817109
>google this guy
>he was selling actual cp
yeah that's stars away from some guy drawing raiden shogun or whatever getting mating pressed

>>564817315
are you retarded? this is a bomb threat you stupid fuck
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Video tl;dr of the posts above

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1777179729189921.webm
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>>564816942
He was arrested for Assault, though. He chimped out IRL, it had nothing to do with his art.

>>564816804
No, of course not. The glowies just make sure you sudoku with a gunshot to the back of the head in front of your parent's house before you can testify in a whistleblowing case. While the other guy that's meant to testify alongside you experiences sudden adult death syndrome and dies of a heart attack a week later.

Or they get a search warrant on you, who works at an air traffic control center, and don't actually search your house when you're gone. Instead, they take their entire glowie ATF + local PD convoy and just leave, then come back next week when you're home so they can do their "search" and murder you when you try to defend your home from a sudden invasion in the night.

>>564817110
>He should've gotten the death penalty for drawing virtual lines in a .jpg that I don't like.
And so the vile control freak takes off its mask finally.
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>>564817435
Well, that's Nezumin's next bot decided.
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/aicg/ try to not argue with atf pedophiles challenge
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>>564817428
She was arrested for antisemitism which is a class 3 felony in Florida, you fucking brainlet. Fuck off and don't @me again with your dishonest ass.
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>https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=564690402&post=564815648&cutoff=766
>>564817349
>>564817349
>>564817349
It landed on human feces at 765 (you can check). im not baking that srry
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>>564817454
>it's okay to draw porn of actual children because.....ummmm, eto erm.... i-it just is!!
wow.
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>>564817568
baities btfo
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>>564817619
The thing that makes CP bad is that you had to harm a child to produce it. By this logic textgen is illegal too if it uses someone's real name. It's just a fucking drawing bro.
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>>564817568
pussy
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>>564817428
>specifically convicted of "five counts of trafficking in obscene text stories about the sexual abuse of children"
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btw v4 does brats just fine if anyone was curious
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>>564817547
how is this so challenging for them?



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