Visual Novel General #7562This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.pnghttps://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>564784275
Umineko is the peak of the medium.
>>564841663But enough about Hentai Prison.
>>564841663I'm not going to play through an 80 hour visual novel
>>564841663IDBLT
We love platonic all-ages imoutos here
>>564842597I can almost see 'em.
Is there a chuunige that has a better fight than this?
>>564843245Hunter x hunter
>>564843245No. I should reread Senshinkan.
>>564843245
>>564843245Naruto
>>564841616>NTR generalMuramasa bros, our time has finally come.
>>564843245Tokyo NECRO
Are there any vinnies with chibii sex scenes?
>>564843604Criminal Border
>>564843740Uh, check out the latest Key release, chuddyhttps://vndb.org/v47937
>>564843361>>564843484Banzai-man vs number genuinely mogs any shounen animanga fight that i can think of
>>564839120I considered it but that feels like a waste too
Does Limelight Lemonade Jam still remain yuzuslop or not?
>>/v/737688893On planet retard, maybe.
>>564844083its yuzukino
>>564843834Not my favourite writers.
Is there a recommend walkthrough for lessons in love or is it linear shit
>>564844281Off-topic.>>>/v/>>>/r/eddit
>>564843872Goku vs Bejita 1ts fight>>>>>
>>564844416Huh? This is the VN general right?
This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.>This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.>This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.>This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.>This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
>>564844281quof recommended getting the progress modhttps://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-progress-and-guide-mod-v0-57-0-cckerberos.106973/
>>564844670nice melty
>haha this vn was fantastic, it taught me how to be a better person that can live happily and be compassionate with others. Nothing can hurt me anymore, it's time to live a worthwhile life*someone says something bad about his favorite vn*>FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU*proceeds to write angry rants for the rest of the day*Why is this always the case?
>>564844608English-translated Japanese visual novels general.And close the door on your way out.
>>564844852It's a larp. They just like the idea of a VN changing their life..
>>564844852It's a fan's duty to put low IQ cattle in its place if it slanders a work that resonated with their soul.
>>564844874What about English language VNs? I don't see a general for them.
>>564844874LiL is an honorary JVN.
>>564845057>>564845065>>>/trash/Right there.
>>564844670>English-translated Japanese visual novelsJust grok it
>>564845065Saying JVN is like saying Japanese anime. VNs can only be Japanese
>>564845317That's like saying movies can be only be white because whites invented them
>>564845317your knowledge on both topics is outdated. Not surprising
>>564844852*finishes lifechanging kamige*>Wow, this was a great VN. I really enjoyed this work, its profound themes and characters will stay with me for years to come, and many people share my sentiments. *checks out visual novel discussion forum*>reeeeeeeeeee it was shit, noo you can't just enjoy it this VN was shit, all of these other people are wrong it's shit and its themes are shit!!!It's a saint's place to ignore comments like that, but I am no saint.
>>564845381That's true though>>564845396You will never be a VN writer
>highschoolers are having raw unprotected sex>can't say manko or ochinchin without censoring themJapan censorship is weird
>/chuuni/ lost to its own schizophrenia>(manosaba fanart.png)>it's just [X]schizo>solpress and xev are at the bottom of the pacific>file.png>garbage post>rule 34 of VN art>muh /vn/ culture>hearing voices while shitposting is not a sign of mental illness>[X]troon>fabled>cuckchad>jizzat>VNmong lost (blue archive girl.png)>kill yourself gachacuck>>Hello King (random IRL webm)>>/vn/ (disgusted moege girl.png)>Majiamigos run this general>English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:>/vng/ was necrobumped by one guy>JOP>redman emulates real-world tragedies>I say ___ and ___>Alice's thick pubes...>Meanwhile in Suwahara City>plotge is for NTR enthusiasts>selamat pagi>newfag>zoomcord>save the general, REDMAN!>MTL>plotge disscusion is just giant black bars>dark moege>I only read nukige>my ass and pussy are so flat>thoughts on this guy? (redman.png)>HOLY FUCKING KINO (distorted shinji.png)>cute!>'morning flowers bros>5. Google It>all-ages future is here>Thinking about lolis.>AIsir, onegai!>EVNs are off topic>ASaschizo wasn't real>Kuonanon is a girl>/vn/ cuties>steins;shit lostno meme arrow>redCOCK posting>UOH>filterfag vs sharkschizo>*raises spork*>nasu is a girl>redman dropped a bot on /vn/>the bot was redman>fatespammer out of nowhere>@_@>he's faking his blogposting>kino>maybe on planet retard>just cuckchadded to G-Senjou>April 1st>talent vs hardwork>VNs for this feel?>Karen OP>zako>falseflagging as another poster>she won>she fucking won>I miss the janny>KIMIKAAAAAA>quof>totopo>zech-dono>/hg/>I only read moege>page 8 troon >Good morning /vn/.>redman is here>I love kuon the most !>otou-san edits>rokuhara edits>(last post in the thread) read her VN (bloody aqua.jpg)>kill yourself [X]spammer>fate vs rewrite>uminegro vs muramasa>amakano vs flowers>kazusa vs setsuna>haven't posted here since fateschizo and his bot>is the bot gone?>haven't posted here in years, any good moege?
>>564845491Thoughts?
>>564845481>That's true thoughIt's not, there are Ugandan masterpieces, and korean cinema has long surpassed Hollywood.
Ignore the butthurt Japanese supremacist white dude and post EVNs here
>>564845559i say half of that stuff btw
Can virgins write kamige?
>/vn/
>>564845539i wonder who's behind this post
>>564845539this isn't government censorship, it's just agencies being paranoid
>>564845539i was more baffled by the fact that they censored yakuza in subahibi but not in other ge for some reason
Can NA wake up already? This thread is so fucking boring.
>>564845760Is everyone here from reddit and cord and xitter
>>564845413many retards share the sentiment*Something being memorable doesn't make it good, I still fucking remember mayoiga and another
>>564845559vns for this feel?
>>564845413Subahibi was so much better than Higutrashi. R07 can learn a thing or two about sca-ji.
Another day another anon got doxxed
If "EVN" readers actually enjoyed "EVN"s like JOPs enjoy untranslated kamige they would just keep posting them. But no, they only read them ironically and reading that slop for prolonged amounts of time takes a mental toll on them. JOPs on the other hand can read untranslated kamige indefinitely because they enjoy what they read. A brain that was expanded by reading untranslated kamige will just crave for more untranslated kamige.
https://vndb.org/v45510Thoughts?
>>564845413Subahibi was so much better than Muramasa. You can tell that scaji actually understands the themes he conveys in his works.
>>564846183It's literally JOPs that are praising LiL
>>564846000Anon's Life
>>564846275>Discord has rotted their brains.>They get paid.>They're trying to trick EOPs into reading slop.It's a combination of those
>>564845889All of the above.
Imagination is like a muscle. Gotta train it or else it will atrophy
>>564846420Or maybe it's actually good.
>>564846420That sounds like cope.
>>564845889it's dumb not to use Xitter because that's where the japanese are
>>564846476>Visual novels>GoodYou can count them in one hand.
>>564846435Wtf is that Ben 10?
>>564846183whitenoising and looking at images isnt reading jopsis
>>564845889we've been the litterbox for xittroons and cotrdtroons for a while
>>564846557>it's dumb to not be in Japan because that's where the japanese are
>>564846191>china
>>564846642uwaa..
>>564845539VA agencies are at fault. You can write or say these words in media, but they don't allow their seiyuu say them.
>>564846607Yes it is according to my japanese teacher.
>>564846647every civilized person should experience japan at least once when their budget allows it
>>564846420It doesn't matter now that moogy and kastel gave their verdict on it. It's officially a kamige.
>>564846420>They're trying to trick EOPs into reading slop.When JOPs praise JP VNs they're accused of puffing up shit works because EOPs cant prove them wrong, when they praise English VNs they're accused of... tricking people INTO reading them? Can a JOP like something without it being part of some schizophrenic war with EOPs?
>>564846476>Or maybe it's actually good.
>>56484670610000000000000000000000000000000000000000 of vn girls have already had sex with you. How is this special and "uwaa" worthy little pig?
>>564846865who the fuck will ever read that unfinished 300h long patreonsloppa lolit takes less time learning japanese
>>564846807it's native behavior for sure but you're still not reading, maybe if we can mix words 'bug' and 'read' we will find one fitting for this occurence
>>564845760All ages tourist spotted. Is this his first eroge?
Nips will be learning English to read LiL
Basically there are real JOPs like Hadler-dono and Clephas-dono and fake attentionwhore JOPs like quof and moogy who only passively absorb the JOP energy of the real JOPs.
>>564846939It's obvious if someone doesn't like it they'll just stop reading in a few hours. The only people who will read to the end are those who like it. And there's always a chance a person will get bored and stop reading with anything, kamige or no.
>>564846859I'm a poorfag
>>564847032>It's obvious if someone doesn't like it they'll just stop reading in a few hours.no bro it gets good 200 hours in you got filtered lmao xd
>>564846191Shit because all the heroines have big breasts
>Come for the porn, stay for the storyName it.
>>564847003chi*ks love it and they simply mtl it
>>564843834Key always used large writer teams because of sheer scale of their projects(anemoi also has like 15 bg artsits, because there are shitton of locations). Anemoi has 12 routes. One person can't realistically write 70 hours long ge at once, while making it into tight development schedule.It all comes down to development period. In 2000s it wasn't uncommon for eroge to have like 6-10 months long development period total. Now companies are slower.Like https://vndb.org/v240 for example was made in 6 months, so of course it required multiple writers. Ever17 was put together in 10 months, and just 3 months was jused to write all text. Now we have even moege taking like 2+ years to release
>>564847023>fake attentionwhore JOPs like quof and moogy who only passively absorb the JOP energy of the real JOPs.So they are basically aura farming?
>>564846476>unfinished patreon scam>good
>>564847239jizzat-guzzling*
>>564846476
>You have to read the console arcs! I swear it gets good!
>>564845760Look, buddy, I know what you're insinuating, but I'm not the one with reddit open on another tab.
>>564847080Nobody serious would say that; it's like an obvious weak rhetorical position that gets belittled all the time, like people mocking those who say FF14 gets good 200 hours in. If someone drops a game a few hours in the only people who would be ranting about being "filtered" are trolls doing false flags, not fans of the game with plenty of experience with people simply not liking it. Suggesting everyone should either like the game or they got filtered is an untenable position on the face of it.
Should drop Sakura Moyu? Read the first two routes and only Haru and Kuro left. Chiwa's route was okay, but Hiori's route is kusoge shit. An hour into Harus route and it seems kusoge as well. Why is this shit so hyped by JOPs?
>>564846275>It's literally JOPs3 JOPs, one is nukigefag with shit taste, another one is person who shilled Nukitashi as an anti-capitalist game. third one unironically said that first 20 hours of sakuuta is shit and still rates it highly.You know, their opinions might be questionable...
>>564847071you only need about $2k to stay for a couple of weeks, see a lot of places, and eat well (flight cost will vary)..
>>564847452You shouldn't judge their tastes until you've had sex with them.
>>564847382>xe's afraid
>>564847240>free game>scam?
>>564847394Nta but usually fans of X think if someone doesn't like X then he either doesn't understand X or has low iq or got filtered.
>Read half of the vn>Complain it's badBased retard.
>>564847604surely it will do a 180 in the future
>>564847506I don't have 2k.
>>564847452uhm, cartelsissies???? our response???
>>564847532>paywalling your most recent update>patreon structure incentivizes you to keep milking it like One Piece instead of finishing your story
>>564847452>third one unironically said that first 20 hours of sakuuta is shit and still rates it highly.Moogy never said that. He said a lot of dumb shit like how it is offensive to call muramasa a chuunige but I don't remember him saying sakuuta was shit outside one route.
>>564847532broski, LiL development highly depends on patreon money. Don't try to paint as some highly enthusiastic free game project.
>>564847591I would guess like 1 in 100 fans of the thing thinks that at most, but the 99 people who don't care if someone doesn't like it don't stick out in your memory, while the 1 person being hostile and antagonistic do stick out in your mind, and since their position is so ridiculous the 99 sensible people are ignored and the 1 idiot is paraded about as a representative of all of them.
>>564847629S;G and Muv Luv don't start becoming kamige until you get pretty far in to their respective stories.
>>564847591i think you should go back to X and stay there if you like it so much
>>564847630if you save $80 each month for two years, then you'll have $2k. $30 per month for 5 years. That's like working 1 day per week flipping burgers
>>564847649If you don't like it enough to pay for it you can still play it for freeIf you do like it enough to pay you're not being scammed
>>564847730subahibi and umineko too. rance x takes 12 games to reach kino
>>564847730Neither of those are kamige.
Are EVNigs cucks?
>>564847696>it is offensive to call muramasa a chuunigeKek, I also said that
>>564847721Subahibi fanbase just proves you wrong
>>564847920>Are cucks cucks?Yes.
There's a fanTL of Itsumama 6 https://vndb.org/v27938 that localized "yabai" into "Oh shit, nigga!" that lives rent free in my head.
>>564847696I mean Sakuuta is shit if you aren't and art fag. There are so many walls of text about art that bored me to shit that I dropped it 3 times over the last years only to force myself finish that kusoge. The only okay shit were the h-scenes and the slice of life moege shit in between of art fag trash.
>>564847372I've read rei and it was meh
>>564847730MLA is a narrative mess with a weak ending and S;G gets worse the more that gets revealed about the time travel plot.
>>564847730I've never read s;g and probably won't because of this. Muvluv is... it has hype moments and Takeru's development is good but it's hard to call it a kamige
>>564848025It's only good when it's gooning to art. Everything else about it sucks ass. The comedy, the heroines, SoL, romance, drama etc, everything sucks.
>>564848025i never said this more unironically that now:YOU. ARE. LOW. IQ.
>>564847730>>564847853ML flip flops in quality, Unlimited is the best and most consistent part of it. Subahibi gets pretty good after a few hours, not after half of the game.
>>564848046It drags on a bit too long.>>564847372takes being really special to read anything past the official.
>>564847827$80 per month would mean that I couldn't buy literally anything else in those years. Only food and that's it. No thanks.
https://vndb.org/v21528Is it ok to read this one first?
>>564848158Elaborate.
>>564848345see >>564848123
>run lessons in love exe>hit with the most generic ass anipop songDid bro generate this using AI?
>>564847971>black men live rent free in his head
Unironically true
Is Miside good? How does it compare to DDLC?
>>564848378koikatsu renders didn't give that away sooner?
I am not white.
>>564848484I am trans
>>564848158I just don't give a shit about art. If this was about something interesting like science I would love walls of exposition. But art is just the most uninteresting shit I can read about. Even the train shit in Maitetsu was much more interesting.
>>564848484muzuhi's rapist...
>>564848550yes, we already established that you find abstract concepts boring because your brain wasn't physically wired for being able to understand themit's ok, that means sakuuta isn't for you (unless you can find some enjoyment in the superficial solslop of course)
>>564848484Thoughts on white women?
>>564848550>something interesting like scienceS;G bro detected
>>564848123>It's only good when it's gooning to art.Only if you already have some interest in the subject matter. That's why people who don't card about trains bash Maitetsu, while others love it.
>pog
>>564848427kamige.>comparewholly different
>>564848538chachatrice...
>>564848751>That's why people who don't card about trains bash Maitetsu, while others love it.So >>564848538 would love Maitetsu?
>>564848681There is no abstract shit about walls of exposition about art history and methodology. Saying otherwise is just pretentiousness.
>>564848751Yeah. I don't think it even does the exposition scenes properly.
>>564848895qed
>this sadistic doctor woman was collaborating with our shitty father all along and is responsible for the sex change treatment and selling us and our imouto off to an auction for sex fiendsI fcking knew she couldn't be trusted...
>Why do always eat microwavable food? I know you're rich enough to order deliveryKinkoi FD was made in 2018. Did Japan not have uber eats/grubhub/door drash or anything?
>>564848724SG chads are the only people who care about science in the current day anti-intellectualism climate. Most people would rather be a dumb moebuta.
>>564848025maybe read it in a language you can actually understand, dumb hookcuck
Cute girls say the oddest things...
>>564848158>>564849018Floodsissy melty
>>564848797I will now play your (not) VN.
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPPLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPPLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPGET CORRECTED
>>564849126It's both visual and novel, sunawachi a visual novel
>>564848952It's good to care about science but make sure that you don't end up like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECuQaaGGfA
>>564849184Love the pink room.
Kek. It just gets worse. Jail is only a step away
>>564849126Remember to blogpost>>564849073what did she mean by that
post peakhttps://youtu.be/-BeKizkKyqA
>>564848724Whenever a ge mentions Schroedinger no neko it's automatically a 10/10.
>>564849421>blogpostLast time I blogposted a plotge somebody posted untagged spoilers.
>>564849421niche children show catchphrase. Something that only a sheltered child would know
>>564849480automatically a 1/10 you mean.
kys, umitranny
>>564849545That won't happen again, sweetheart
>>564848317Yes actually. They're not related unless they are
>this devilish woman finally scammed our shitty dad out of the 9'000'000¥ he got for us and our imouto at the auction and leaves him to dieJustice at last... except for her, she got away with everything. -.-'Is it morally right for hot 2D thots to do as they please?
Umineko won.>9.00>9.00>9.00HFK.....
>>564849652Still not risking it. I'll just post my thoughts after I'm done.
I AM A WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH!
>>564849430https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIX8GY-cs-s
I AM A TSURUUGIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
wtf there are ramen seasonings you put in before/after cooking it? I always put in the seasoning before putting in the water.
>>564849841YWNBAW
>>564849746This is a JOP game, fuck o---Oh...Carry on, sir. How is it so far, my good man?
>mashitkoi
>>564849951I put my cock in other people's ramen just like Tyler did it in fight club.
>>564843245for me its Ayakashibito
>>564849937YWNBAW(T)
>>564849430>>564849897When is A-6 coming out...?
Lol imagine being a zoomer with 1(one) VN read (NTRmasa)
>>564850149I am a zoomer with 2 vns read(fate and saya no uta)
>>564850149That means you've already read peak
>>564850149>imagine being a zoomerNo, it's too scary.
>>564850269It's not that scary, blud
>>564848897That's why specialized topic ge are such a hit or miss. I simply cannot read ge about art, music or food. I just don't care about that shit. Walls of exposition about quantum physics on the other hand I can't get enough of. It's a matter of interests.
>>564850368Asuka needs a FD
>>564843245Shirou vs Archer.
top class logic
>>564843245dvll vs aisir
>>564850269It's actually scary to be a balding millennial who is still unmarried
>>564850473I've been praying, bro. Asuka didn't even get any new scenes in the anniversary edition.
The machinery in Aokana is not that realistic t.bh
>>564849545>he still didn't ask an llm to code an anti spoiler chrome extension for 4chan...miside isnt really spoilable anyway, its a straightforward story with no twists, even if you read the whole of it its still worth a read for the experience
>>564850502I'm mad that this AI translator translated the bunny game but not the maid game
>>564850601You k-killed him...!
>>564843245Archer vs Tennouji Kotarou
>>564850601Still on the "I still have time" phase? Stop being delusional.
>>564850601brutal
morning fellow /vn/ lolicons
>>564850627And the most popular girl in high school still being a virgin is realistic?
>>564850037I've already finished it.Seitenkan started out with a decent premise, but I feel like it wasn't used as well as it could have been.It certainly has good h-scenes though if you don't mind the plot going nowhere and ignoring obvious foreshadowing on some occasions, and the MC Akira is a cute one with a cute voice.My biggest gripe would be that the shitty father, who starts Akira's descent into depravity, ends up with only two h-scenes and more or less disappears from the story until the final route, which just so happens to be my second biggest gripe since it doesn't pay off that well and features some questionable fetishes I didn't enjoy very much. I would've liked a sadder note, a more humiliating ending, since it feels like they forgot about Akira's condition halfway through the novel.
>>564850727gm sir
>>564850727kys.pdf
>>564850652I thought that it already had a patch
Putting Dies Irae down after finishing Twitsumi's and Kei's routes. Really can not be fucked doing the other two. Each route generally got worse as they went on, really drags on, each messier as they went on. While not difficult to follow, just tedious. Overall great characters and VA. Particularly liked Shirou, Eleonore and Wilhelm. Bit of a shame as I almost always finish every route in every VN but this was boring me to tears at times./blog. May your reading (the few of who you still do) be fruitful.
>>564850727Go back to cord
>>564849574what show
>>564843245TTGL vs Anti-spiral
>>564850813Has the complete garbage SVN one
>>564850627Yes, I totally want realism in my moege where the boring average looking MC is able to get the hottest bitches at school.
>>564843245Dies Irae the animation kickstarter OVA Reinhard vs Fuji. Absolute peakium.
>>564850814filtered kek
>>564850838a fake in-universe one
Post your favorite girls with guns.
for me it's mashiro
>>564850896Look for a dog farm and you will find plenty if bitches in heat ready to fuck you as well.
>>564850962meant for >>564850836
>>564850053My mind is still serene and my heart ablaze https://youtu.be/c3EbBfQ8pQQ
>>564850727>heroine grows upYou hate to see it.
>>564851095Halt o time, for thou art fair...
>>564851041Decisions, decisions...
>>564851095Cute but also ugly babu
>>564851021shit so cringe i could never read this unironically>uwaaa the mc is such a boring manlet, i wish i was his gf!!! what? my peak fertile body? no way mc would love me.... even if i'm a loli in a pedo game made by pedo devs in a pedo country for pedo players, but no. ALAS, i'm the 4th best girl and nobody will ever pick me...
>>564851095What is that thing on the left?
>>564851095improved
>>564851227>i'm the 4th best girl and nobody will ever pick me..Anon did in fact not read the game
>>564851170Bro, those aren't even the same person or the same VN. Left is Chisaki from Riddle Joker. Right is Fumika from Tenshi Reboot.
>>564851204>>564851041Hundreds lines of shit LMAO
>>564847452>third one unironically said that first 20 hours of sakuuta is shit and still rates it highlyThis is what everyone says about uta. The first route and a half are mediocre, and it starts to kick into gear after that. That's the least controversial opinion about uta possible.
>>564851227At least 75% of straight men would put one in Mashiro or Misaki before ever even looking at Asuka or the who girl
>>564851292i'm too smart for moeshit
Is it fine to read vns while sitting on a chair?
>>564851021>I picked you because you'll look like your hot mom in 20 years.
>>564851418Yes break the bed habit it was better for me in the long run
Thoughts on pdfs?
>>564850973awful
>i'm too smart
>>564851204
>>564851431grooming a loli into an adult wife. Not having sex with her so you can teach her starved adult body with bed breaking sex. The fetishes are getting really fucking weird
>>564851316Wtf bro, that was mean...
>>564851431To be fair Mashiro's mom has got it goin on
>>564851530Is her husband still alive?
>>564851451PDF is such a retarded format. What do you mean I can't edit them? docx is much better, at least I can edit it.
>>564851308that was the joke
>>564850354Another thing that pissed me off about Sakuuta is how every praised the MC and his father as some kind of super humans. They are just idiots who got recognized by pretentious rich art fanatics as such such. What did they do for humanity. Praising artists is sheer pretentiousness. After all art has no objective value. Philosophy, psychology, medicine, science, those have objective value for humanity. No one needs to proclaim antibiotics have value. Or Nuclear fission. But a painting has no objective value. Art is just pretentiousness. I put any coomer fan art over historical paintings any time of day.
aocunny heh
>>564851449How did you read vns on a bed? Using a console or staring at a proper screen?
>>564851559Sadly yes
>>564851568literal brainletyou can stop posting now
>>564851619Kill him then. Mine is the way of the sword after all.
>>564851236That's a baby.
>>564851568The VN does romanticize naoya and his dad and the impact of art is presented in this too larger-than-life to be relatable fashion but you could've said that in a less reddit way. There's no such thing as objective value.
>>564851771Does the baby suck milk from her tits because that's literally cuckshit and it means wa2 should be added in the NTR list?
Hi everyone! I am Yoshikawa Kana (also known as Sakuraba Wakana).This is my first time on /vn/, so please excuse me if I’m doing this a bit strangely!While looking into "Full Metal Daemon Muramasa (Soukou Akki Muramasa)," I was deeply moved to discover how much this work is loved by fans all over the world. I am truly happy, and I love Kanae just as much as all of you do. Playing her is a great treasure in my voice acting career.I wanted to share that I have recently started a new "Voice Project" on YouTube. I am creating storytelling videos designed to calm the mind and help you drift into a peaceful sleep. I speak in a tone very similar to Kanae’s, so I would be honored if you would give them a listen.I have only uploaded a few videos so far, but I plan to share many more. If you're interested, please stop by and let me know what you think!Thank you for your constant support.
>>564851486>>564851204>>564851041I really wish I enjoyed Hundred Line as much as Danganronpa. But having the gameplay just utterly put the brakes on the story and be forgettable and easy made it a worse experience. And the wildly varying route quality means you might either get burnt out on trash routes before finding the good ones, or your last impression of the game will be getting tired of some of the filler they used to bulk up the game to 100 endings.
>heroine gives birth>she goes to a hospital where another man and some women will see her nakedThis realization has ended my pregnancy fetish.
>>564851940We do be subscribing and liking
>>564851876Bro... did you miss biology class in 2nd grade? Speaking of cuck shit, if she has a baby boy his dick is literally inside of her for 9 months.
>>564852014blindfold the wet nurse + birth at home you can do it king
>>564851853But there is. If something saves lives or advances humanities scientific evolution it is objectively valuable. There is no subjectivity about advancements in science.
if having your own child being breastfed by his mother isn't ntr then oyakodon isn't ntr either
water slides aren't really that fun tbqhdesu
>>564852078there's subjectivity in whether saving lives is worth it or no
>>564852014Other girls have seen her naked when changing before and after gym class.
>>564851585Lappytop with pillows propped up behind me. Sometimes I'll still do it but getting used to reading and watching movies at my desk helped me sleep better
>>564852205That tracks. I'm fine with gigantic water slides but I'm too scared to ride roller coasters.
>>564852078I mean we wouldn't bs debating about value of AI if that was true
kys, subhuman zoomoid.
>>564852205She's the idiot dark elf character, unburdened by intelligence. It's probably a hoot and a half for her
>>564850814Nigga dropped it right before the kino
When I was little I used to be extremely prudish and every time someone saw me naked/partially-naked I would try to see that person naked as well to be "even". At some point a lady that was a family friend saw me changing and I go so upset that my mom asked her to change as well so I can see it and calm down.
>>564852014Men of taste enjoy scenes where a heroine gives birth in the middle of a gangbang.
>>564851876Mental illness
>>564852383understandable. There's always a (small) chance that you could fall to your death if they are negligent
>>564852406
Bros I just want to be a cute moege heroine
>>564852489More kino for us
>>564852691
>>564852205rollercoasters are comfy and fun but >>564852648 is heart-attack worthy, i did it once and i will NEVER do it again
>>564852068This cg looks so ass holy
>>564852458there's the adrenaline rush factor too
>>564852489The game is dogshit. Nigga did the right thing. Only underage retards or negative IQ shounenfags enjoy Shit Irae.
>>564852068>if she has a baby boy his dick is literally inside of her for 9 months.DELETE THIS
More like Dies Queerae
>>564852625>not wanting to be a cuck is mental illnessPost nose
>>564852821you must be a faggot or a woman
>>564852821stop talking about yourself in 3rd person, coping adhd zoomerino who got filtered by dies kino
Didn't we all shit on DI when it came out? Why are we glazing it now?
>>564852249The heroines that I like only change themselves while wearing towels though.
>>564852821Kill yourself, Sei Shitter.
>>564852068It takes ~10-12 weeks of gestation until genitals form in a fetus. So it's more like he has his dick inside of her for ~6 months.
>>564852971The game is literally made for faggots and cucks lol. >>564852993Seething low IQ retard
>>564852951Talking about noses your original statment imples attraction towards infants so you know enough about you.
I don't like DI because it makes the Nazi look cool. Our grandpas fought against that and we should respect them.
>>564853060Because we are occupied by zoomcord duh. Lil bros just love their braindead shounen slop.
>>564853197my grandpa sided with them
I like when heroines slowly realize their depraved desires and become whores
>>564853060localization ruined it, it's so much better in japanese
>>564853107>imples attraction towards infantsSo if a dog licks your gf's pussy you are ok with it since you are not attracted to animals? Fucking cuck.
>>564849258>I F***ing Love ScienceUnironically, VNs for this feel? I want some techno-optimism kino
Am I the only one who don't give a fuck if heroines sleep with other dudes
>>564853101>complaining about gayshit/ntrshit in a chuunige/plotgeholy tourist, stick to moeshit>>564853252but enough about your mom
I love my childhood friend gets fucked and impregnated by another man if I don't pick her route.
>>564853293>classic copeMaybe the chuuni shit is better but the characters/plot stay mostly the same.
Does anyone have the image of Chris saying her grandfather fought bravely at the Battle of Stalingrad
>>564853305>zoophilia out of nowhereYeah mental illness lmaoZoophilia is unnatural why are you even using this as example? Child breastfeeding on mother is no different than eating, shitting or sleeping.
https://litter.catbox.moe/3c5k2tgbngm3cq5t.mp4More choco milkshakes
>>564853392this but especially if i do pick her route
>>564846785That makes no sense, cause you can tell the seiyuus say them but they are barely bleeped out. If what you were saying is true the seiyuus wouldn't say the word at all.
>>564853376Yes, all chuunishit is garbage for fags and cuckolds.
>>564852489Yeah, no, not the case.>>564852821Wouldn't call it dogshit but it's very repetitive and drawn-out. For 'edgekino' it loses most of it when youknowwho dies ~halfway through every route and then it becomes a slog and loses most of its edge.
>>564853452Intead of looking at the bouncy boobs, I was more focused on the bouncing balls. Am I gay?
We need more double penetration outside nukige
>>564853628Hello, Battler.
>>564853428>cuckshit is naturalIt's only considered "natural" because our fucked up society has accepted it but when you actually pay attention at what is happening it's clear that you can only describe it as cuckslop.
buhiiiiiiii buhiiiiiiiiii buhiiiii
>>564853628>Am I gay?afraid so
>>564853374Nah, there are other NTR enjoyers just like you.
>>564853227scat
boobs=sexualsucking milk from a woman's tit=sexual=> [someone else] sucking milk from a woman's tit=NTR
>>564853908Green scat
>>564853969>boobs=sexualConsiderable numbers of individuals assert this notion.
NTR is not an issue if you self insert as the girl
>>564853628Kageaki...
>new AsakinoHello King.
>>564854339I'm unironically looking forward to the new ASa Project game since it has early H and some interesting heroines.
>>564854339>never masturbatedI can't self-insert
>>564854187And I always do that, even in real lifeI'm a JOP btw
>>564854187Why self-insert? Remain an invisible observer
>/vn/ is intimidated by heroine perspective H-scenesPathetic.
>>564854339Rance is that you?
>>564854841>Another>otherLiterally reminds me of cuckshit.
>>564854841I dont have agp
>>564854841I don't want to imagine being the one penetrated.
Thinking about NBR imoutos having sexual orgies with other men.
>>564854962>>564854943>>564854928>I don't want to know what my soulmate thinksYou lack empathy
>>564854339I like asshole mc i relate to this trope might pick up
>>564855073Why not just have the girl say how she feels, then?
>>564854841gay shit
Reviews are up.
>>564854841Winning status?
>>564855263>データ数: 10
>>564855263>Key fanbois rate shit highMore news at 11
KIMIKAAAAAA!!!
/vn/
>>564855263Isn't the playtime of this like 60-70 hours? I find it hard to believe people read it all in around 2 days. Cause that's basically 2 days of near nonstop reading at a speedreaders pace
>>564853416
Keytrannies lost.
>>564855809MHBST
The Kimika faction has won.
Only thing that subahibi trannies won at is chopping their dicks off
>>564855971MHBST
>>564855809cuck
>>564855971You are confusing us with uminekofags
whether you like it or not, no other vn company will ever have the cultural relevance, impact and consistent quality of KEYKEYchads won, it's time to face it
>>564855771Preesh
>>564855971why is it so hard for you retards to understand that not all of us have genital dysphoria
>Hating su-habibi kino>Hating r007 kino>Hating KEYnoFuck off. You are not welcome here.>hating NTRmasaHello, my good man, welcome!
kys, retard07 tranny.
You are from vietnam.
>>564798329I guess I'm lucky I decided to start katans route first cause her H-scenes looked ass, but why would crystalia not just do enforced route order if the order matters for the story?
You will never be a witch, umitrannty.
>>564856362>su-habibiBro?
uh oh masa melty
>>564856571Bro is from India, please understand.
I AM A KEKOLD
>Su habibi troons will wife up gangraped slut and then suck her futa dick next dayK-k-kino!
>>564856675habibi is MENA
>>564856675>exposing his masa-retard IQthat's arabic, not indian
>>564855597She's cute. Post more screenshots of her.
Her va made her cuter than usual
>>564856225They are basically the Nintendo of the industry
>>564855597She's literally me
Kei route is the best one too
>>564855757Highly anticipated games tend to leak early
>>564850814you didn't think the samiel fight was good in kei's? Marie's route is almost entirely kino that was setup in the first 2
>>564856805Her VA does really good work. I've read a handful of VNs with her in them lately and it's always a treat.
>>564856806nintendo actually released good games at one point though
>>564855971You're mistaking us for muramasafags.
>>564850814>>564856917oh ye shirou's final fight from kasumi's is also a good example of what marie's like
>>564856929That's so funny, literally pissing myself.
you will never be a tsurugi, masatranny.
>>564856927still do
>>564856917Samiel vs Beatrice? Yeah it was a solid fight, but it doesn't help that at that time it was frequently swapping between three (!) fights.
>>564856805>no sound
>>564856929That is mega funny. I especially like the Kimika you posted. Thank you!
>>564857150That's your complaint? What? it helps keep pace and the feeling of hype/intensity as all of them build up to a climax. It's not like it's jumbled or anything, I fail to see the issue. Would you rather they happen one by one from 0 to 100 - surely you can see the issue in that
I love black men though
>>564857386>that's your complaintThat's how you interpreted this chain of posts? Weird, anon.
I dunno what you guys are talking about, this Katan H-scene was hot.
Crystalia really shilling Re:D cherish in this ge
>>564857484>it doesn't help that itis a complaint. you're stating an issue. I cant keep track of you faggots but I get the feeling im talking to one of the new mentally ill avatars
Fuck off to >>>/jp/ cuckold.
Fuck on to >>>/vg/vn/, bull.
>>564857636MHBST
>>564857582>shilling a second gachashit game in their gachashit gameuwa...
>>564857547It's hot if you like femdom. The problem is the mc is a wet noodle and this doesn't feel like a romance at all. There was no quality foreplay and the positions are all samey and recycled. re:d cherish scenes were done way better and much hotter
Gunvolt 2 is so good
who's more retarded:>moeturd seething at ntr in a plotgevs>plotcucks seething at moege having no plot
>>564858040you for posting such garbage again
>>564851940There are boards such as /jp/ especially for e-celebs and tubbers, just saying.
>>564858091that was my first 4chan post ever
>>564858026SHE WON
>>564858219literal ntr
>>564858219Won what?
>>564858290The best girl competition
>>564858331this
I hope 3+ has more streamer netori.
https://vndb.org/v5174forbidden kamige
>>564855597where's she from?
>>564858428There's no way no one saw her giving a sloppy handjob in the middle of class...
>>564857582>:DFuck off with your emoticon bullshit
>>564858287Everything's fine—she just dropped the pen. Don't mind the moaning.
>>564858452https://vndb.org/c1586
>—
>>564858547>—AI-kun...
>>564858219This vn could have been kino if the mc was one of her viewers instead and the current mc had (steals the soulmate) tag.
>>564853197Based.
>>564858576>checks description>"Today, let me tell you a story about a rabbi."i need a break
>>564858219I havent read it and i might be wrong, shes a streamer you fuck her in her ge but irl (you) watch her vtuber streams like some cuck? Wtf.
>>564853252Sexual Corruption is hot.
>>564858534That's literally the title of the game you dumbfuckRe:D Cherish!https://vndb.org/v32269
>>564858627>>564858598>>564858547>AI-kano is only liked by llmspottery>>564858763holy tourist go back
Amazing heroine ruined by dogwater route and MC. Many such cases, didn't expect it from crystalia of all devs
obsessed troon
Kakuna looking ass
>>564858969meant for >>564858219
>:Dslop or kino?
I miss Makinasis
Do you like bimbofication?
>>564858969meant for >>564859071
>>564859075ironic kino
>>564858969meant for>>564858598>>564858627
>>564859135Is this more-or-less only in nukige?
>>564859147>meant for post that didn't even exist at that time
>>564859135No. It implies she fucks others and enjoys any penis. She would also have basically no character and would become extremely boring
>>564859263Time is relative.
>>564859261Would be cool to see that in a moege.
>>564859347I agree and I'm not even into it. It could be amusing in a moege/romcom.
>>564859264>It implies she fucks others and enjoys any penis.That's a good thing because it shows she's been fully corrupted.
>>564859264>It implies she fucks others and enjoys any penis.And? What is wrong with that? Are you a dumb buta or something?
sex with others WON
JOPs, was it worth learning Japanese? I want to learn moon runes not to read untranslated kamige but just to shit on EOPs.
>>564859404>heroine suffers of bimofication if you're not in her route>heroine becomes a good wife and mother if you choose her/are in her routeHFK
Cuckold general
>>564859503>sex with others only WONFixed
>>564859135I don't like gaudy make-up and too many accessories, but the biggest turn-off is plastic surgery.Tans are nice and piercings are great (in moderation). Nipple piercings in particular have grown on me.All in all, the whole "decreased intelligence" aspect doesn't do anything for me, but I enjoy moderate bimbofication as a form of mindbreak / sexual corruption or liberation.
>>564859506just install loonahook and mtl sakuuta
>>564859506Everyone itt is a jop.
troon(flower) general
>>564859539Can't handle a little NTR, huh?
Sukuna BEAT Gojo btw
This looks like a good VN. Girl starts out pure and ends up like this.https://vndb.org/v59025
>>564859690geg
>>564859539Mine is the way of the cuckold.
>>564858219She Jobed to Letty and Shion
>>564859790kek
>>564859539And? Even the vns in the top 10 vndb have ntr in them. Subahibi, Muramasa, WA2, Rance X(I assume). This medium was made for that.
>>564859725... on opposite day
>>564859725your mom BEAT my meat btw
>>564859506All shitsual novels are dogshit. There is a reason why all resectable JOPs play EVNs and gacha.
>>564859737>8.14Thats why you never sort by average, another reminder to sort by vote count and then look at average...
>>564859506it's worth it but only if you're autistic
>>564859870Your meat must have been pretty strong to fight my mom
>>564859793i see two losers
>>564859852trvke trvke TRVKE we LOVE ntr here
>>564859852Muramasa and wa2 doesnt have any ntr you worthless shitposting filth
>>564859913Yeah, this game should be 9 at least.
>>564860005>Muramasa doesnt have any ntrLMAO
>>564860005holy cope, both have ntr
>>564860005
>>564860005Why are you lying?
>>564860062>>564859737looks like life-changing bimbokino, keep us posted king, ignore the seether
>>564860084>>564860101>>564860151YAMEROOOthink of the newfags
>steins;gate is the only kamige without a single hint of NTRAPOLOGIZE!
Detcord trannies raiding
>Muramasa>no ntr
>>564860151Where do you get ntred in muramasa? Sure it has "those" homosexual gangbang scenes but none of those are love interests now what? Are you gonna have a melty every time some random person gets raped? I fucking cant with you literal retards.
>>564860230muramasa has shroedinger's ntr: you won't know if it has it or no until you play the game yourself, and then it's a dice roll based on your buhiiii~ factor
>>564860062I love NTR smile so fucking much
It's not NTR if a non heroine has sex with someone else
>>564860630does she have saggy boobs?
Should I still read Muramasa, I've already been spoiled>fake MC bait and switch>the spider is a hot dark elf>pink has evil eldritch eyes>the girl with blue hair & ponytail is MC's daughter>some fat guy in gold armor>final boss is sudoko
>>564860554What if the MC had sex with someone else and the heroine watched?
>Sure it has "those" homosexual gangbang scenes
>>564860823you haven't been spoiled
>>564860484This VN's MC is a shy nerdy girl who befriends a couple of slutty girls and gradually becomes a slut too. It has no NTR.
>mysterious hidden beverages>>564860812Still not there yet.
>>564860823you're pretty low iq so knowing those things going in will probably let you focus on digesting the themes and enjoying muramasa's rich philosophy to the fullest
>>564860823>>final boss is sudokoKINO KINO KINO
>>564860924Yeah what you want to me bootlick some faggy publishers? Ntr+ fags need to die unironically and im not afraid to point out their gayness but to say that muramasa has cuckshit is pure retardness.
We all had to look this up, right?
>>564860395>Where do you get ntred in muramasa? 1. Konatsu being raped in front of Yuuhi2. Mizuhi gangrape Both of those are love interests even if the MC's were cucked out of their routes for plot reasons.Then there're further NTR scenes regarding side characters as well:3. Sakurako being raped on stage while the shota prince watches...and scenes with NTR characteristics, like:4. Misao getting gangbanged while her onii-chan stands by and wipes the sweat off her partnersAnd those are just the h-scenes.NTR is an integral theme throughout the whole novel, with characters like Akitaka who had to give up on his beloved wife and marriage and left Subaru to be impregnated by someone else because he lost his reproductory functions, Ukyou whose obsession with the girl he loved went so far that he'd be willing to let her fuck other men if she only stayed by his side, or Muramasa the 1st whose wife was kidnapped, forced to bear a child and then told to forge herself into a tsurugi, reveal her former family's whereabouts and hunt them down with her new husband/lord.You're being incredibly dishonest by claiming that "there is no NTR in Muramasa".
>>564860851Uminegro is full of NTR. Like your gf getting fucked by fat cousin.
>>564861076You will never be a woman, Detroon
>>564857547This scene and the entire scene building up to it was genuinely one of the most retarded pieces of writing Ive ever had the displeasure of reading. A cautionary tale to not hire literal who writers for big budget games, wtf was crystalia thinking? If the rest of the routes are this trash this game might be the worst ive read ever
>>564860823As long as the various ntr scenes still get you by surprise you're good.
>>564861076None of that happens to mc so why does it matter, and again do you have a melty everytime someone gets raped on other side of globe?
>>564861075It's pretty easy to solve.
>>564861076Negromasa truly is the one NTR vinny to rule them all.
>>564861076It's almost impressive how much cuckshit he was able to squeeze in lmao.
>>564861075it's the only part i didn't look up because my iq is too high
>>564861076Kys, tranny. You will never be a witch just like Yasu will never be a woman.
>>564861182>None of that happens to mc?The first two explicitly happen to the protagonists.
>>564861182>There's no NTR>Ok fine, there's some NTR but it doesn't happen to MCYour next argument >There is nothing wrong with NTR
>>564861293You will never be a tsurugi, just like Chachamaru will never be a woman.
>>564861076>4.h-h-hot...
>>564861334There is nothing wrong with NTR
>>564861312Yuhi or whatever that fag is called isnt mc >>564861334But enough about you
>>564861095trvkehigurashi as well
>>564861076ntrmasas on suicide watch>nobody replied to >>564860327heh, guess we know who won
>>564861076/vn/groids really do be worshipping this garbage
>>564858464Kek
uh oh, tranny having a melty lol
>>564861075I did this by hand only needing a calculator for final stuff
Takumi's paranoia might be spot on here. This girl has some ulterior motives.
>>564861414>Yuhi or whatever that fag is called isnt mcI accept your concession.
>>564861568kyuuseishu-sama but its kimikahuhhhh
>>564858763>JOP>clueless retardmany such cases>>564861076kekkkk
>/vn/ is full of unironic cucks>yet somehow there is so many "people" that heckin hate ntr in muramasaHmmmm im putting two and two together
>>564861414It's telling when the guy defending Mememasa doesn't even remember the main character's names but insists on being correct regardless.
>>564861590>that themei saw somebody's screenshot with it on reddit, gimme a minute...
>>564861568Maybe, but she's not that bad.
Weirdo
>>564861705oh shiiiiit. Kageakijeet is about to be exposed
>>564861485A vocal minority.
>>564861590You sure did prove me wrong lmao, cant take you seriously fucking moron.
>>564859506Yeah, but only because I can only get off to girls getting corrupted and mindbroken, which the west is too afraid to put in any of their games.
>>564857178https://web.archive.org/web/20160818061521/http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/blog/?p=1776>Tanaka: When treating her as a heroine, I had to put a lot of effort into making the readers like her only using Moon. On the other hand, in Terra she's more like a dummy heroine, so it felt tricky to do anything deliberate with her. I did stray a lot when I was trying to make Kagari likeable in Moon. Her personality changed quite a bit between the first and second draft......>Tonokawa: At first she could talk normally. Some people in Key even felt she was cuter that way......>Tanaka: In the second draft Kagari talked like newspaper captions. In the third draft she was the silent type she is today. After I finalized it I heard we got a really famous voice actor for her and felt like I'd wasted that (laughs). Maybe the first draft was the best!?
>>564861535
holy redditor, go back fag
Det you will always be a fag for liking Beatranny.
>>564861801FTFY
>>564861760>i-it doesn't heckin countI accept your concession, again.
>>564861705>I, a redditor, found someone who posted on reddit
Give back Mizuhi, Kongolo! She's not yours to rape! Give her back!!Whatchu mean, dala?You took my friend Mizuhi, Kongolo! I know you did!!Is that so? You say I take your sasa, eh? Why you think that?BECAUSE! I saw...... the hymen blood on the hut floor!!! In the town of Goulmima!! You scoundrel!No... no I do'n know. Why you not ask our Captain Komayombi Kaposho abot it?Captain Kaposho!!!Yes. Wot you want?What did you do to Mizuhi!?Is was girl brown hair?YES! My friend Mizuhi! What did you do!?I don't kno. Never heard of dis
>>564861801geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg
>>564861915>it's afraid
>>564861895So you do know yourself yourself that you are pulling shit out of your ass. Good.
>>564861953No, you should fuck off to there together with the other redditor if that's the case.
>>564861879GOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
>thread quality drops
>>564862170>dropsbro look at the whole thread it has been garbage since the beginning
A whole thread of :men: deluding themselves they're manly gigachads for reading moetrash
>>564862021I do know myself myself that you're coping hard about Yuhi not being a protagonist despite him being the MC for the entire prologue and being listed as such on vndb.Plus you've been awfully quiet about the Mizuhi scene, jumping at the opportunity to derail the conversation about Yuhi instead, which further exemplifies my point.I accept your concession.
That's what happens when uminegrocorders raiding out general.
>>564862274Moe is literally for adults. Plotge is for teenagers who still have chuuni delusions
>>564861918kek
>>564862170That's uminegros have their own general>>>/jp/07/thWe can't co-exist with these disingenuous trannies
>>564861012Atri posters might not look smart but they are actually pretty clever.
Cuckymasa is lower rated than CHADineko...
>>564862405>"Adults" that only read stories about high schoolers dating and fuckingMore like manchildren that are sad they missed out on teenage romance and can't move on with their lives
>characters saying Sophia has large oppaiI don't see it in her sprite at all. Maybe she'll pull a Nicola or something.
>>564861372It's completely out of nowhere too and never brought up again.
>>564862297That fag will never be mc no matter how much shit you will pull out of your ass, what about mizuhi heckin childhood friend getting raped? Or so i heard from you shitposters when in reality shes nothing more than some random bandit leader. Its fine to hate ntr i dislike it too but there is limits on how much thinskinned you can be lmao, but i bet you are having a melty not out of hate for ntr but for whatever other mentally ill reasons i dont even care about.
>>564862551This.
>>564861568Truth nuclear bomb
>>564862621Based uminegro. We respect trannies here.
>>564861480noooticing
>>564861076>4 That's why I hate speed readersIt's her father, dayum uminegro
>>564862559Teenage romance is not a childish thing. It's actually incredibly adult. We don't value it but we should those are memories that stay seated for a long time. Meanwhile pretending to be le sick goth vampire cuck man Kageaki is definitely childish
>>564861076Negromasas will never recover from these hard facts.They should just make their own cuckshit general and leave the rest of us out of their daily meltdowns.
>Nukige has too many sex scenes and little plot>Plotge has too much plot and not enough fluff>Moege has too much fluff and not enough plotAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HELP ME AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>564862728>It's her fatherretardbro... it's not.
>>564862837blge
>>564861076Masachuds can never recover from this post
>>564862483Yes r/07 is so fucking based it has its own general. It's greatWe also post here about r07. It's fantastic
>>564862807Dude, you are not any better >>564859852
>>564862950So true tranny sis. We love retard07 here.
>>564862914nta but it's her father
>>564862728>negromasas don't even read their own kusogelmao>>564862807That would be perfect, but it'd die after not reaching bump limit like the manosaba general.First and foremost, this subhuman spammer needs attention more than anything, so he'd never leave this place where he gets it.
Even corndog Sora thinks Muramasa is cuckshit
>>564862914retard nigger, her brother died racing
>>564863113You like >>564863197 irl
>>564862405Moe is for loser men who want to pretend that they were one if the cool guys that got all the hot girls in high school. It's wish fulfillment for pathetic fucks.
>>564863240kek
>Nukige has very large oppai>Plotge has large oppai>Moege has very large oppaiAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PERFECTION AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>564856779
>>564863197Did he marry his students' public use cumdump?
>>564843245Kageaki vs Ichijou
>>564862728>>564863058>>564863141>NTAlmao this is pathetic.Either there're three different masafags who all misremember this one major character or you've really been samefagging this entire conversation.
>>564862837read amatsutsumi
>>564863410he got her pregnantit's manners
>>564861076this post triggered the muramasa cucks lmao, the game is pseudo intellectual garbage
>English language visual novelsPost them here>Japanese language visual novelsPost them on /jp/Simple as
>>564863439lmao
>English language visual novelsPost them here>Japanese language visual novelsPost them hereSimple as
>>564862996Wa2 doesnt have any cuckshit dumb fuck
>>564863439kek
Uminegro BTFO lol
>>564863240if he was the one who made corndog Sora edit, then yes I like him
Yes, yes, well done, Uminegros, HOWEVER
>>564863738/thread
>>564863616Setsuna almost getting raped? Kazusa letting men run a train on her in vienna?
>>564863616The girls cuck each other + >>564851876, you dumb secondary
>>564863738630th post best post
>>564863738You stole this image from somewhere else. This wasn't even your joke originally
>>564863786Lmao, setsuna part sure but the latter part made me laugh, you fucks really dont read but just shitpost.
>>564863738
>>564863738Post the one with the nude men dancing.
>>564863738Lmfao
Umineko wins. Fatality. Flawless Victory.
>>564863868>You stole this image from somewhere else>>564863946https://files.catbox.moe/yg0bex.mp4
>beato as priest instead of nungeeeeeeeg
>>564861075Nope I solved it without looking it up, though it took longer cause the first run was bugged and missing a number and thus impossible to complete and I had to reset it
Even alcoholic Rin thinks Masa is for cucks
Rance X -Kessen-- cuckshit WHITE ALBUM2 cuckshit STEINS;GATE cuckshit(it cucks the reader by not providing h scenes) Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru double cuckshit(it also cucks the reader by not providing a satisfactory ending, no way my mysteryge is gonna end like that)Muv-Luv Alternative HUGE KEKSHITSoukou Akki Muramasa cuckshit Shigatsu Youka IDK
>>564863738Lol
>>564861076KEKKKKK Put me in the screenshot
Damn it, I knew it. I'm guessing Ritsu gets unlocked after completing any route and Kikka gets unlocked after completing all of them. Kikka gave me key aid vibes so pinkfag was probably right and she is the best heroine.
>>564864350Your life? Cuckshit
>>564864246Rin forgot to bring some whiskey.
>>564863738peak of this general
>>564864350>this is the peak of the mediumGrim
>>564864350>has to make up fake cuckin Steins;Kino and UmikinoYou're not fooling anyone masakek
>>564861076Yuuhi and konatsu had no romantic feelings for each other. Konatsu was hot for teacher(points if you get the reference)Mizuhi is not a heroine nor did she see kageaki that waySakurako is valid i suppose but we have no idea if she reciprocated the princes affectionMisao didn't have a brother, her father was the one watching, so this can't be ntr.When people refer to ntr, the common consensus is its happening to the MC(aka you). This never happens in muramasa.
>>564863738this will never not be funny
>>564864543>make up>when it's the truth
>>564861618It's a shitty joke and you know it
YES, BUT..... Kageaki doesn't JUST enjoy getting cucked
>>564864350>(it also cucks the reader by not providing a satisfactory ending, no way my mysteryge is gonna end like that
>>564862576She's not that big, katan and sui are way bigger than her
>>564864350no idea why anyone is hyped for Rance 10 when it's worse than gacha trash and it's cuckshit and it's not even free
Do i get friends here?
>>564864140Kek, Battler is a faggot.
If I could go back in time I would assassinate Moogy and stop Muramasa from ever being released for EOPs.
>>564864863our JOPs here love gachatrash thoughbeit
>>564863738Kek.
>>564864863Im reading rance up to 4 now so far good, why is it cuckshit? Hopefully its not for same made up reasons like muramasa.
>>564843245Mizuhi vs Bandit
>>564864863It's the best VN of all time. Why wouldn't we be hyped for it?
>>564864925How would that change anything? People would be shitposting with other vns and putting them against umineko since uminekofags have always had an extremelly shitty reputation on this site.
>>564843245Battler vs Goats
>>564865073>It's the best VN of all time.More like only JOP weirdos play Rance. The moment normal people start reading it's gonna fall off the top 10 fast as fuck
>>564865046>rance up to 4 now so far good, why is it cuckshit?If you play shitty you will get some cuckshit in rance 4
>>564865121Yeah, only Detroon thinks only Muramasafags hate this trannyshit
>>564865121>>564865279Kek, acting like you're not just seething about Umineko being mega-popular
>>564865046Some of the main girls do have bad shit happen to them. I think the first major time it happens is to Shizuka in VI. 03 gets kinda cucky with Maria but she doesn't really "belong" to Rance at that point anyway.
>ctrl + f cuck>46 results Any ge for this feel?
>>564856779>>564858452in order to get to her you will have to sit through 15 hours of uninteresting/annoying drama and characters before it gets good, only read this if you're ready for that
>>564865434Ctrl+f masa>43 resultsKEK, almost exact same
>>564865360Nothing really happens to maria though as rance stops the dude in time
>ctrl + f umi>65 results
>>564865341yeah, sister, I alone made all these posts
>>564865648
>>564865570That's why I said kinda. The vibes are definitely there but Rance does indeed save the day.
>>564865341It's true though, there was a poll on /a/ or /jp/ to vote for the most annoying fanbase and umineko won it. I don't think higurashifags are even 10% as annoying.
>>564865707Umineko will always be higher rated and much more popular. And it makes you seethe. Kek
We love umi here.
>>56486591465
what causes this?
>>564865914who caresthe fanbase is full of trannies and they rate trannyshit highsee >>564865875
>>564865847>muh 4chan pollNigga... how many votes? 31?
>>564866003>admitting that umifags are literal children You have to be 18 to post here
>>564865945
>>564866139namsissy is underagethat's why his edits are full of cringe shit
Masachuds took a beating this thread, damn
>>564866003Bitter jealousy. Muramasafags can't enjoy things anymore because they fried their dopamine receptors from constant shitposting and rehashing justice talking points. They're basically the meth heads of the visual novel community.
>>564866067There were hundreds of votes, I think the poll was from the mid 10s but you can observe it yourself in their own general. Uminekofags are the worst shitters in this community.
>>564863439ummm masabros...?
>>564866271Throw a stone who never made fun of the poorand uminekofags are the lower caste here, lower than moebutas
>>564866271Honestly this post is getting a little too real. 100% accurate
>>564866271>Muramasafags can't enjoy things anymore because Muramasa is the peakTrvke
>>564866271Masacucks have been seething 24/7 since 2021 because their holy quran of cuckshit (Muramasa) didn't even end up making it into the top #5 of vndb despite HARD shilling by moogy and his followers.
>>564866271HRT fucks your dopamine receptors worse than just shitposting
Cute girls are justice. That's the only justice that matters.
>>564866637yeahreading umineko and liking have the same effects of estrogen on the brain
>>564862728>>564862914>>564863058>>564863141>>564863439This chain of replies is hilarious.They've been awfully quiet since then.
>>564866616enough, tranny
>>564866661Pity such cute art is ruined by insufferable saga planet tier writing
>>564866736broare you not tired of samefagging yet?
>>564866305>there were hundreds of botsI believe it. Everyone loves r07, which is saying a lot because it's starting to become boomergeMeanwhile masa is new shit and zoomers love it which makes sense
>>564862728Bro... her "dad" was actually her brother pretending to be her dad. It was a parallel to Kageaki and Hikaru's relationship, where Kageaki is her father pretending to be her brother.I even agree that Muramasa isn't really cuckshit per se, given none of the actual heroines get touched by anyone but Kageaki. It's really conspicuous how they avoided this so as to court the people who would have obviously been disgusted by it. But the game puts pretty much every cute side girl through the meatgrinder, and likes to degrade the male side characters by emphasizing their inability to protect them. Honestly, I think it makes the game worse at times, because it's obviously broached largely just to throw out brief, shitty ero scenes. At least it's used as a cheap way to convey how savage the setting is, and in theory to bait out a visceral reaction from the audience, getting them to pity the victims and get pissed at the villains, but honestly I ended up caring less a lot of the time because it was so perfunctory. Oh well, that's Nitro+ for you, and this is from over a decade and a half ago, when people could pretend that sort of edginess had a novelty to it.
>>564862683When I was a kid sometimes when I couldn't sleep I'd just kind of wander around the house. Whenever someone asked me about it I'd tell them I was sleep-walking. I didn't have a reason to lie about it really so I'm not sure why I did. Sleep-walking seems fake.
>>564866845>Everyone loves r07Everyone in Japan and in 4chan hates that retard
>>564863439>muramasatroons don't even read their own VNGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>564866845>Everyone loves r07,Not at all, plenty of people disliked his vns. >Meanwhile masa is new shit The vn is from 2009.
>>564866990thishe made things even worse with the dogshit SHITurashi remake
>tranny malding because everybody hates retard07 and his fetish for cucolding and trannyshitLol.
>>564867027Understandable, it's terrible cuckshit lmao.
>>564863439that makes it way less hot ngl
>>564866936>Sleep-walking seems fake.I sleep walk everytime I travel to another country. I guess my body is not used to a new environment.
>it's cuckshit>masafag: *complex acrobatics to explain why it's not cuckshit*
we need to adopt six seven from zoomers and adapt it into eight eight for masacucks
>>564866041>the fanbase is full of trannies and they rate trannyshit highBut enough about NEGROmasa.
Everyone loves R07
This whole muramasafag melty feels a lot funnier if you consider >>564863439 the kind of fag defending the novel is samefagging even if he's blatantly wrong lmao.
>>564864350fata morgana WON>>564867213>Fate Cuck/Shit reaction imageoh the irony
I love Karen
This general is worse than most gacha generals. It's honestly impressive.
>>564867334KEK>>564867231GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGThey're either indian or troons or both.
>>564867250Uminegros looks like that.
>>564867351most transgender vn readers are uminekofags
>>564867334>>564866736Please stop bringing this up, please, I swear I will dogeza naked...
>>564867250>when people say that umirashi changed their life
>>564867440I look like this
>>564851486>Never happens IRL ATM
>>564866936Should nurses really be dressed like this? Seems unprofessional.
NEGROmasa meltdown
>>564867532Lmao.
HRT wasn't even a thing when Umineko released.
Remember when it was Muramasa vs Karen? But Karen won so they had to change it to Muramasa vs Angel Beats. But then Angel Beats won
>>564867349Do you even post here besides ritual posting?
>>564867616Not when they have oppai that small
>>564867420>this is what happens if you read mumbaimasa
https://vndb.org/g3172the tag that KILLS masachud
Oh my magic. I keep writing it in RED but I can't get a period? Wtf????? How am I supposed to turn into Maria, my cuttie patootie, at this rate?
Yo, Muraniggas, stop making fun of mah Onii-chan
>>564867653yeah, everyone posts karen and angel beats, on redditlooks like muramasa won here
>>564867250>>564867532A confident man is not afraid of dressing as a woman as a funny gag for an anime convention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI1WnFv7zn4
i'm the only person in the west reading a vn right now
>>564867639Umineko invented it.
>>564867639HRT has been a thing since the 1960's
>>564867532>>564867250this is ai
>>564867639So Umineko invented it? Lol>>564867727'neko doesn't have it either
>>564866736>They've been awfully quiet since then.Masacucks in their HRT riddled mind when they're blatantly wrong would rather shit up the thread with spam than accept defeat and discuss the VN they supposedly like. But in reality, it's all just fake. They don't care about NEGROmasa, only about getting moogy's approval.
>>564867893It's not. Use google lens. It's from the convention that happened last year.
>>564865360Weirdly enough if it was any other ge i would have a melty and uninstall but in rance ges my tolerance for this shit is stronger, probably because it makes up with non pussy mc that just rapes everyone on sight and i can relate to rance alot(not on rape part as much as i wish to rape every single pretty girl on earth but on him being narcissist)
>>564867843many have been reading lessons in love
>>564867843definitely the only on itt
Good to know that americans are indeed the ones spamming umineko and muramasa.Guess being an american means you can only think of trannies and cuckshit.
>>564867807You tell 'em sister!
Redman thread at 750
>>564867941Negromasas exposed as shallow frauds again.My desire to read it is dropping into the negatives.
>>564868019GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG>>564868084she's kinda cute ngl
>>564868039One american is losing about Vietnam. He keeps thinking he's going back. They are doing Vietnam Part 2 now
It suddenly occurs to me that most of you are literally sub 20 years old. Grim. No wonder almost every post is shit and childish
>>564867879
>>564868165he cute
>>564867941>>564868116awser the allegations>>564867532>>564867250>>564868084
>>564868193The sad thing is they're probably pushing 30
>>564868193wait until you find out what the average iq is and how many people on earth are dumber than that...
>>564868039>Guess being an american means you can only think of trannies and cuckshit.You're being dishonest here. The spam only started after masacucks got utterly btfo by >>564863439 and >>564861076 and decided to retaliate.The otherside only tried to have a genuine conversation about the visual novel.
>>564868259>got called a faggot so many times in highschool that now he's latching out at random people cosplayingMasachud....
NEGROmasa invented sex with others.
>>564868363stop using my reaction pics, umitroon
>>564868446>randomThey are uminekofags crossdressing, tranny simp
>>564868363True enough.
>>564868459Nah, that's on your mom
>>564868000Most of the bad shit is avoidable. The only other ones I can think of that aren't avoidable happen in Sengoku. Those ones are actually kinda bad.
>>564868363I dont see how this is btfo. Racer girl, mizuhi and konatsu are not ntr scenes cause there was nothing between them and the relevant male characters. Racer girl and her brother were not involved romantically. When people think of ntr they think of the MC getting the main heroines stolen from him which never happens in muramasa
Behold, the whitest negromasa enjoyer.
>>564868467You don't "own" your images, retard.
>>564868547LMAO
>>564867349
give negro a swordHe's Negromasa now
>>564868635>I dont see how this is btfoMaybe you should reread the convo? He was insisting that racer girl's brother was her father acting like three different anons and then had a total melty after he was exposed.
>>564868652I made them, therefore I own themThere is a hidden watermark (no trannies allowed to use this image)
>>564861076Not a single lie was spoken
>>564868635If you want actual bona fide ntr, check out>>564841616
>>564868740Nay, he is your father.
>>564868635the shitposter will never admit this, you are wasting your time talking to her
Move:>>564868889>>564868889>>564868889
>>564868840Where'd you get this image of Rokuhara bandit?
>>564864437i am never wrong anonhaven't read this yet though
>>564867342>fata morgana WONNellie gets cucked by Michelle in the first door. Nellie's entire existence is getting cucked out of based wincest, really.Pauline gets cucked by Michelle in the second door, then murdered by the man she loves. Habi gets cucked by Pauline's endless pining for Yukimasa.The entire conflict of the third door is Jacopo is having a melty over THINKING he's being cucked, since it's an adaptation of Othello.Giselle got raped by Michel's ugly old (married) dad before Michel himself ever got the chance to touch her rat sacks. Giselle also almost got with a faceless side character before he revealed himself to be a douche, but honestly that really barely counts.In Another Episodes, Aimee is revealed to have eventually cheated on Georges.Original Jacopo effectively cucks himself and an entire city out of life, love, and happiness, because he is the wap equivalent of tsar bomba.At the very least actual adultery is fairly rare and it's mostly just unrequited loves.
>>564868925Your mom sent it to me.
>>564868925Classic. This is why they call it NEGROmasa.
>>564869000trips of truth
Almost skipped majikoi s chilhood route, looked like koyuki route and i didnt care anout what ifs ctrlrd it out of curiousity just to see i can romance benkei... close one.
>>564868908Early
>>564868806It was a barely relevant plot point that was more of an afterthought in a single chapter. Him being her brother changes nothing as there was nothing romantic between them. I can understand why people would not remember the details of this
>>564868635>mizuhi and konatsu are not ntr scenes cause there was nothing between them and the relevant male charactersThe original post already explains this to you by stating that: "Both of those are love interests even if the MC's were cucked out of their routes for plot reasons."If it wasn't for those particular unfortunate circumstances, both of them would by all means have been romanceable.
uminegro lostnamsaba lost
>>564868985>1&2women can't get cucked>3 he didn't get cucked, he can think whatever he wants>4happened before they knew each other>5not mc>6 random copeout of the top 10 kamige it's the one with less cuckshit after s;g
>>564868908this frontrunning transgression cannot go unpunished....
>>564869210I wanted to escape this thread and offer a sanctum for all of the moebros.
negromasa lostNTR lost
Why is this general so hyperfixated on a 5/10 visual novel?
>>564869492it's literally the first time this month that we are talking about fat morgan
>>564869492
>>564869584kek
>>564869492You're having a melty, calm down.
>>564869492>Katana battle>NTRfest>ironic reasoning>BBCIt is like a motherload for western weebs, in unironical glazing to pure shitposting.
>>564869446NTR won, look at >>564864350. NTR medium.
>>564869631Pancakes are at least an 8/10, though.
>>564869350That's just speculation though. There was nothing to indicate konatsu and yuuhi saw each other that way, and kontasu was in love with the sensei. Mizuhi and kageaki had 0 romantic tension either. We're just going into fanfic territory at this point.
MUMBAImasa lostKAMIneko won
>>564869892>There was nothing to indicate konatsu and yuuhi saw each other that wayShe's introduced as his tropey NBR sister and violent tsundere osananajimi, there is no doubt that she'd have been a heroine if the VN kept going with Yuhi as its MC.Besides, Konatsu is clinging onto his memory after the incident and later completely breaks down after his death and dedicates her life to avenging him. >and kontasu was in love with the sensei. That's played off as a joke. She even lashes out against him at one point when he doesn't seem to take the situation seriously.>Mizuhi and kageaki had 0 romantic tension eitherThis one is plain wrong.Mizuhi is already planning out their marriage in her mind after he touched her naked body, and Kageaki considers her an irreplaceable part of his heart that will never be whole again after she died.
>>564869376>women can't get cuckedYou can't say this and then say WA2 has more cuckshit than Fat Morgan.>he didn't get cucked, he can think whatever he wantsHe got cucked out of consummating his union with his glorious shirokami wife.>happened before they knew each otherSo what? Used goods.>not mcOkay, so Muramasa's cuckshit doesn't really count either then.And I forgot to mention ||Michel's unrequited feelings for Aimee, which are violently rejected while she goes on to fuck and cheat on his brother.||>6 random copeI mostly just wanted to call Jacopo a wap and equate his impact on the world to tsar bomba. What a lad. I hope he fucks the stuffing out of his reincarnated jailbait wife.
>>564870464wa2's cucking is the implied one of the mc, not girl getting cucked>spoilerhaha funny but no, sorry>used goodsnot ntr>not mcin muramasa both mcs are cucked as it was explained above
steins shit lost
>>564870702muramasa mcs are not your father
>>564870785the kamige with at least some implied ntr award
>>564870464>not mc>Okay, so Muramasa's cuckshit doesn't really count either then.Both of them are the MC's.
>>564870392You know you don't need to love someone romantically to mourn their passing right? There are other forms of love that exist. I don't recall the part of mizuhi planning out marriage with kageaki after he touches her naked body. I'm pretty sure it was a joke of the common trope that a woman that is seen naked or has her body touched is no longer 'pure' and is no longer on the market as marriage material, and thus the man needs to take responsibility. There was no text that kageaki saw her in a romantic light.>That's played off as a joke.Joke or not, its clear she didn't see yuuhi as a man and only a friend. If anything I would argue she had a greater chance of ending up with the sensei than yuuhi ending up with her.
>>564870392NTA but>there is no doubt that she'd have been a heroine if the VN kept going with Yuhi as its MC.But Yuhi isn't really the MC. He's a glorified side character who lasts for one chapter and just happens to get a lot of perspective as a structural choice. In practice he's not really any more important than Ukyou or the Oujis.>Kageaki considers [Mizuhi] an irreplaceable part of his heart that will never be whole again after she died.It's true that Kageaki is surprised by how Mizuhi became important to him in such a short time, but their relationship hadn't really had time to progress or develop at all. She's ultimately a side character who merely has some chemistry with the MC that doesn't go anywhere and doesn't have time to. It's a "what could have been" tragedy, but they're not remotely together at all.>>564871672>Joke or not, its clear she didn't see yuuhi as a man and only a friendShe more did after he stood up to protect her from the yakuza, what with all the blushing and tsundere babbling and shit. Again, it's a "what could have been" tragedy where Narahara sets up the basis for a typical visual novel romance plot advancement and then formulaically destroys it to generate tragedy.
>>564871672>Joke or not, its clear she didn't see yuuhi as a man and only a friend.Nah, and you clearly don't remember the prologue well if you don't think that there was romantic chemistry between those two.She fawns over Sensei twice or thrice but stops with that gag when he joins their search for real.
>it's another "/vn/ discusses ntr in muramasa" episodesee you in, uhm, a couple of days i guess?
>>564872416>He's a glorified side character who lasts for one chapter and just happens to get a lot of perspective as a structural choice. In practice he's not really any more important than Ukyou or the Oujis.Unlike Ukyou or the Ojis, Yuhi got a whole pov chapter to himself. He's the only character after Kageaki who received that treatment. That alone makes him a protagonist by definition.And I really disagree that he was "unimportant"; Yuhi's survival would've completely turned around the political structures of Rokuhara and Yamato, as well as changed Kanae's role in the story. If Yuhi survived and opposed Rokuhara as the legitimate heir to the Ootori name OR tried to change the system from within as Shishiku planned, I have no doubt that we could've seen an actual happy ending play out. He had by far the strongest will out of anyone in Muramasa, opposing a tsurugi unarmored with zero actual combat experience after witnessing his friends getting crippled.
>>564872416>>564872560Did you miss the part where she told him he was pretty useless after the yakuza event? She did not see him as a man at all and this is apparent in a lot of their dialogue exchange and how she treats him. The best you can assume was she treasured him as a close friend.>She fawns over Sensei twice or thrice but stops with that gag when he joins their search for real.She stops fawning over sensei during the search cause she understands there is a time and place for everything. They are trying to search for their friend who has gone missing and i suspect his little meltdown speech kinda put her off enough to fully concentrate on finding their missing friend.
>>564873346Ehhh, you've got a point. I suppose I just really didn't care about the chapter 1 kids myself, so even if the scene is meant to have NTR/BSS undertones (as typical for the short villain atrocity ero scenes) it didn't reach me and it's easy to cast aside due to Yuhi and Konatsu's relationship being intentionally rather underbaked.>>564874432>Did you miss the part where she told him he was pretty useless after the yakuza event?Yeah, while blushing and doing her tsundere routine. It's just one of those "she's embarrassed about her feelings and can't be honest" moments. It doesn't take much reading between the lines to see it for what Narahara is trying to do. But that said, it's also true that the relationship isn't that extraordinarily strongly emphasized, and she was already crushing on Suzukawa as a joke. Like I said before, Narahara was just trying to seed hope for "what could have been" to make it tragic that the possibility was destroyed.
>>564845559>totopolove that guy
