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>>565001690Making it so that running away and not attacking isn't a viable strategy.See, negative penalty doesn't actually prevent you from running away and not attacking. Hell, it's Bridget's optimal strategy in some match-ups in +R despite the game having negative penalty, because having your meter taken away doesn't even necessarily discourage run-away time-out tactics. Furthermore, if you are actually sitting at fullscreen and attacking your opponent with projectiles, you are clearly engaging with the opponent, but the devs don't like your particular playstyle so if you do it too much you get punished.Notice how negative penalty isn't in most fighters, nor are there any similar sort of punishments that kick in if you "play the game wrong" too much, and despite that, most fighters don't have problems with keep-away or time-out strategies. That's because their characters and systems are designed to make you want to engage with the opponent in a natural way.Imagine if the devs wanted the game to be more neutral-focused, and instead of creating characters and system mechanics that lead to that naturally being the case, they simply slapped you with negative penalty if you keep your opponent blocking for too long. I think that pretty neatly illustrates why it's a garbage mechanic. It's a shitty band-aid to a problem that isn't a problem and doesn't even actually address the problem it's supposed to be addressing.
negative penalty is a stupider mechanic than wild assault
>>565003247Yeah, POSITIVE BONUS is already enough reward for being aggressive, and Risc is already absolutely fucking retarded and punishing enough for being defensive.
>>565003247It's worse conceptually, but it's also extremely negligible in how much it actually affects the game. Wild Assault made the game much worse by existing, while nothing would really even change if they took out negative penalty.
Stop being babies about every little mechanic.
>>565003438I hate negative penalty because it's literally the devs directly screaming "YOU'RE PLAYING THE GAME WRONG" like you're going the opposite way on a race trackYou shouldn't be desining characters that have the capability to be played "wrong" and if you have a vision as stupidly specific as you do for EXACTLY how you want every single match to be played by every single person on every single character you should be able to do that through gameplay design that isn't going "HEY, STOP! NO! PLAY FAIR!" like a fucking mom coming in and telling one of the kids to not zone because it makes little brother mad
>>565003865>"HEY, STOP! NO! PLAY FAIR!" like a fucking mom coming in and telling one of the kids to not zone because it makes little brother madkekAin't that the truth...
>>565003591Hence stupider, not worse
>>565003247it's a completely irrelevant mechanic that never occursyou have to backdash like 10 times in a row for it to warn you then you can fix it by swinging once
>>565004049don't you have another aisha ballad about hope to write daisuke
>>565004013I would still say that a mechanic that ruins the game is more stupid than a mechanic that barely affects anything.
>>565004167man I wish I were daisukehaving the creative freedom to be allowed to make damon and baby with full support is the life
Order Ky when? I want to throw sand in people's eyes and stab them in the foot.
>>565004919that doesn't seem very orderly
Here's your Jaggo, bro
>>565004358But Damon and Baby flopped critically, commercially and popularly...
>>565005439JackO if she were good
you should get a free positive bonus if your opponent gets negative penalty like in blazblue
Aqua's butt >>>> Jaggo's butt
>>565005430Good. Gears don't deserve honorable conduct.
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>>565005672what if it were like sc6 and you got positive bonus for completing little quests during the match based on your character
>>565005853
>>565005526yeah but he was allowed to make an obviously dead end project he's practically on neetbux since strive was so successful
It's crazy how season 2 was the only decent version of the game and season 2 sucked ass
>>565006058kek
>>565006535The only decent version of the game was the after the patch that unlocked air gatlings but before HC released.
hhmmmmmnyes hello I was told that Beatrix was like Sol Badguy, so I'm trying out Sol Badguy in StriveWhere are my infinite pressure block strings? My plus frames? My low profiling moves? My gorilla damage comparable to big body characters? hm?
Would it be better if deflect shield and yrc didn't put you in counterhit state on recovery?
this was the best version of the game actuallyhttps://youtu.be/-XmLW5ELcsI?si=uQ3iq5IOepJuQEzO
>>565007041They’re in plus r, Sol isn’t allowed to have cool things in strive
>>565007041>risingsissy is retardedno way...
honestly the beta with the fast airdashes was the most fun i had, but maybe it was fun because everyone was new
>>565007041Beatrix is not like Sol BadguySol Badguy does not have blockstringsYou get 3 plus frames on close slash and 2 plus frames on far slashAll of your specials are like -20 with the exception of fafnir which is slow enough for people to react to and punish before it comes outYour low profiling move is sweep, Bortex is a combo extender for a dead version of the character and currently does nothing.You get damage if you get a counterhit close to the corner and press volcanic viper
>>565005853Who is this and what game is she from.>>565006058I don't get it.>>565007041>infinite pressure block stringsclose slash and far slash>plus framesclose slash and far slash>low profiling movesnight raid vortex>gorilla damagehis damage is gawdlike>>565007307Are there any clips of that? I would kill for faster airdashes and more air stuff in general.
>>565007208>ground viperas opposed to air viper?
>>565007307The beta had even higher damage than launch
>>565007670You can do Volcanic Viper in the air, yes
>>565007670As opposed to volcanic viper>>565007439Reisa from blue archive
a giovanna op? kek it's kino!
IB should be revised to be more like the old games; 2f with universal Late Cancels is intentionally random ADs should be universally sped up, even just 5fRISC should persist longer; depletion speed makes cranking RISC for a forced CH nonexistentthey gotta do some shit to Burst; either kneecap zoner class recharge, make more shit jump-cancellable, or rework air combos entirely to be the "low damage" bait optionget better palettes too, fucking hell
>>565008286I’ll say we also need dp rc to be added back because there shouldn’t randomly be moves you can’t rc which defeats the point of it. And we need more red haired colors.
>>565008286just stop playing srive. it's what you really want. play granblue. they have 8f ib windows
>>565007670>ground
>5 Ino's in a row>Then Axl>Then Happy Choas>Mfw im playing ABA
>>565008940Isn't it ground viper thoughAren't the old guilty gears notorious for having both terrible localization AND translation?
>>565008940>58kgtwinky
>>565009160Something that cracks me up is EX I-No in Plus R, Megalovania on her move list is written as Mega Romania
Why does Sol hate otakus?
>>565008940Endearing cringekino.>>565009532Where did you get this from?
>>565009935I heard him say it during Tyrant's Rave in Strive.Might be character dependent, idk
>>565008940>HOPE buckle
Wild assault was good because it was just boost, but with two stocks max, and more degenerate effects on the game.
>>565008560>there shouldn’t randomly be moves you can’t rcThat was a thing in Xrd too though. Never played enough +R to say but I wouldn't be surprised if it also had a few exceptions.
>>565007708Behold.
>>565010319I don’t think there’s any moves other than most throws and projectiles (which often have frcs) you can’t rc in plus r and I’ve played most of the characters in it
Is it possible to play/host extremely old version? A super early beta tournament would be really funny.
We must retvrn
>>565010394I remember when people tried to cope about the moving burst bars being only a feature of the beta UI and not intended for final release, as if you would spend programming minutes to intentionally make your UI shittier just for a beta.
>>565010614Pure sovl...
>>565010552The beta versions aren't available (unless they were included in the ArcSys server hack) but Steam allows you to play older patches of games, so you could host 1.0 tournament.
>>565010614>that airdashHoly....
>>565010614I'll never get over the tinder ui
>>565010614Can't fucking believe they managed to salvage what's clearly a fucking mobile game with afterthought multiplayer, and turned it into one of the most successful and revolutionary fighting games of all time.
>>565011336Fuck it, I'm saying it:Beta stun edge looks better than the release version's.
>>565011336I remember thinking a number of things looked questionable about the game around this time, but I don't remember noticing how fucking ugly Stun Edge was, what the fuck was that Charged Stun Edge.
>>565010614that ui is pure kino
>>565011336He could do stuff after aerial stun edge? He can't do that anymore iirc. https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Ky_Kiske#Aerial_Stun_Edge
>>565011671Yes, air OK stun edge was dash and jump cancellable.
>>565007307alot of people thought it was funthe first thing Arc should have asked on the beta feedback form was "do you know about 6P/AA options?"
>>565012061I think everyone knew about 6P, I remember well a lot of complaining in at least one of the betas was that people thought that 6Ps either being too strong or not strong enough, I think it was the former, was one of the big complaints most people had about it.
Revolutionary
Blazblue... strive
>>565012630I was actually scared they’d do it a while back
>>565010614holy kek you just reminded me of those grifters that made cope videos after they crippled AD
So what do you think the new arcsystemworks game is? Assuming those old leaks/rumors were true.
it's bb strive. you are big fucking coping if you think otherwise desuhoping for CF+R before release
>>565013394>spoilerPlease murder Carl and buff Relius it’s all I ask
>>565013148If its a licensed game there's really no point in guessing what specifically it'll be because it could be literally anything. I'm assuming considering the downsizing of the Strive team as well as Katano's seeming departure from the project, he is the one leading the team on this new secret game. It could be BB Strive, could be that big crossover of all the Arcsys properties spawning out of Damon and Baby. Personally I'd like to see them revisit Battle Fantasia.
GGxBB
Blazblue strive Jin be like>Neesan… I go by Jessica now.
Do you really think they will do bb strive since it might be too "anime"? I know strive is anime and tokon has anime aesthetics but you know what I mean.
>>565013547A new Battle Fantasia could actually work considering how much people splooge for parries these days
>Mai's jubblies in modern ArcSys styleKind of want...
>>565014226They'd just censor all the designs and change any and all parts that are considered too 'anime', just like they did with Guilty Gear being 'metal'.
>>565014226Leave Blazblue out of this. It was already going downhill by Centralfiction, don't kick it when it's down.
>>565014409>in modern ArcSys styleso tits shrunk by 50% but her legs inflated by a 100%?
>>565014409>Thinking they wouldn't put her into a burka Did you learn nothing from Dizzy?
I've been a *skims through dustloop* Odile & Dokurod main since day 1!
>>565013148they only care about western bux nowso it's obviously going to be some Teen Titans shit + lolified DC heroinesthat would be terrible...
>>56501224890% of the players weren't guilty gear veterans. It got even worse when they did the lobby beta.
I wish they'd make a new blazblue so you guys would have something new to cry about
>>565014672>legs inflated by a 100%?Yes please.>>565014712Guilty Gear characters got very conservative redesigns but Grub girls were allowed -some- fan service. It's not unthinkable that Blazblue girls would be allowed some fan service as well.
>>565015205Not that anon but the fact you're even settling for -some- fan service is concerning.
>>565015205Blazblue has more loli characters (that are actually designed to be very blatantly appealing to lolicons and straight men) which makes the strive demographic a bit offended so I don’t think they could get in cleanly
>>565015341Whatever m8, I'm just being realistic. >>565015376Oh yeah, those are definitely not getting in. Not in a time when character models can be so easily extracted and modded.
>>565015461Yeah I think Centralfiction would still be played about as much even if they did do a strive version so I’m not too worried even if the strive version is 100% doomed to trannydom.
>>565015565i look like this
>>565005439both Jack-O' and Aqua were custom engineered for anal So this is like anal squared
>>565016020aqua was created exclusively for hatepregnation
>>565013148Damon and Babby...STRIVE!
>>565015919You look like a mix of nago and goldlewis
You will never look like that
>>565016228kek
I think Katano needs to get headbutted in the teeth
>>565008286impressive how the only point in this post that wouldn't make the game 10 times worse is the palette one
>>565016647but Miyauchi is in charge now
are nago players just bad or does jam actually beat nago? i could never approach the matchup this way w/ ky
>>565016993>are nago players just badyes
>>565016993Nago players have been carried since the game launched.
>>565002828You don’t get negative penalty from zoning. Literally bitching about something you don’t even understand.
Just started playing again, why the fuck is ranked so grindy. Why do I need 40 something wins just for one division? I'd be fine if you got a win streak bonus but you dont even get that.
>>565018249Because it works just as poorly as in every other fighting game, which is exactly what people were begging for.
This is brig brain time.
>>565018868>spins>does nothingWhat did Anji mean by this?
>>565018990It's a mystery. Anji is a being from the seventh dimension.
>>565019393Did butterfly cause the nago to cancel the blood pop recovery?
>>565019564Yes, or so it seems. He used to be such an unpolished and fucked up character, with endless character specific 'tech.'
>>565018249>I'd be fine if you got a win streak bonus but you dont even get that.Don't you?After I win several times in a row I get like 240 points instead of... 90? I think that's what I usually get.
>>565019913I havent and Im on a 20 win streak in plat. Maybe in lower ranks or higher ranks it applies but so far nothing.
>>565019910To be fair butterfly is still borderline useless.
>>565020007Oh that sucks.Yeah, I'm still in GoldI'm not surprised they forego a win streak bonus on higher ranks but I imagined that would start happening in Diamond at the earliest.
>>565016498Das gawdlike
>>565020019It's theoretically very strong.
>>565020225Theoretical is my favorite kind of strength
>>565021059Theoretically, Anji could win every single dice roll he attempts from round start, which means sheer luck would carry him to victory, but the odds just aren't in his favor.
>>565020225I remember one of the very early patches reduced it to the lowest attack level in exchange for faster startup (still not as fast as the reveal trailer) but literally whats the point at that point. Why even give him his old oki fireball in the first place in a game that you want have hardly any oki at all so you're never gonna make it even servcieable?
>>565021473i dont get it
>>565020019if they made it any stronger, Anji would actually be able to mix into a combo is whynow we have to wait till Haehyun
>>565021473Like that other guy says, it's because he can't have too much power, or he becomes the nigger king in webm related.
>>565021473You already have to play entirely different against him because of spin and has one of the most fucked up RPS kits in the game. Does he really need it
>>565021473I remember that first trailer had Spin travel farther to be within throw range after one of Axl's normals
>>565021628Nigger we are not getting haehyun that fucker was only made because daisuke wanted a playable old man but mori wanted a playable girl so Daisuke compromised and combined the ideas. But with goldlewis as the new big bodybold man newcomer kum is dead in a ditch.
>>565021628>>565021976>>565022023You're right but my point is, why did they even give it to him in the first place? The move conceptually is just completely antithetical to what they're going with for Strive so they just shouldn't have even bothered and given him something else that's actually useful.
>>565021976+r anji is funny
>>565022023He needs it, but he doesn't deserve it.>>565022168Because it's a neat concept, and even if it doesn't actually work as well as in the game where it's really good, people don't know it's shit, and it becomes another theoretical weapon in his walking casino strategy.
>>565022168it was widely believed that Anji had the least development time and/or budget being one of the last launch characters, so they didn't actually know what the fuck to doDragon wasn't made for his story bit, folding screen for 花鳥風月 wasn't made, and he still has placeholder speed lines in many animations
>theoretically they don't actually know how SHIT-su works.>theoretically I can get close enough to him if I spin and RC my spin.>theoretically my water/flying typing gives me enough bulk to tank a couple Nago heavy slashes.>theoretically my overhead is unblockable.>theoretically, fuujin's many followups make it actually a pretty safe move.>theoretically if I can just get the opponent into my kou blender when I'm loaded on resources, that's like a jackpot.>theoretically, if we assume I have decent reads and don't gamble like a drunk, I can easily make the overdrive parry work to my advantage.>theoretically I should know where the range of near parry ends, and the move turns into far parry.>theoretically 2P should lose to the things it sometimes beats.>theoretically my damage output is kinda a lil gawdlike yo.
What happens if you use this button?
>>565027998It's actually good now. Besides the pressure it's legit essential to his optimal combo structure now.
So what's the counterplay to the new alpha blade?
>>565028468Fuck it we ball, we guess and if we guess wrong we die. Same as with everything else.
>>565012385Daisuke can still redeem his whole story
>>565030086Not going to lie my friend your post seems retarded. Like more than the average bridget post including the one you replied to.
>>565022023>has one of the most fucked up RPS kits in the gameI don't know why you fags keep gassing him up soTechnically, he has a lot of optionsTechnically, he can get good rewards out of some of themRealistically, he often doesn't have any fucking options on his pressure and he genuinely has some of, if not the weakest oki, which he doesn't even get access to as often as the average characterThere's plenty of counter play and inherent risk to everything he can output during pressure, most of which don't even affect other characters because he has plenty of Anji-specific issues and legit hardcoded weaknesses like fuujin's momentum our kou's ground problems
>>565030581Id rather fight a strong character that has answers than a slot machine like Anji where I just have to hope I guessed right
once Tokon releases, zero staff will be allocated to Strive"Season 5" will take 3 years to complete
>>565010319>That was a thing in Xrd too thoughYou can't RC DPs on whiff but the it's not like you can't RC DPs on block or hit, that would be super odd. When people say that they removed DP RC, they mean that it is entirely gone, not the same as it is in Xrd. Also Xrd has the helpful red x of shame to let players know that they can't RC
>>565032190Grim.
>>565032190Good.Just fucking let fighting games exist for a while once they are finished instead of immediately going to (next thing)
Why am I seeing the lesbian flag so often in TNS streams now. Is that the new meta
>>565032190After Tokon and season 5 theyre gonna start making a brand new GG
>>565029993Yeah but how do you guess, like what are the options there
>>565032487nir
>>565035363
When is the next DNF Duel tournament?
>>565035674When sonicsol hosts it in his parent's shed, now that he's banned from EVO
How do I stop johnny from just doing mist finer slash mid screen all day
>>565036025Show him that you can move in the air or low, so he can't spam one type forever.
>>565036025Throttle your connection every time you go against a johnny player and make it as unfun as possible for them. I don't know who his least enjoyable matchup is but play that character. Remember to teabag and taunt, and overall play disrespectfully. If you can find their steam profile tell them to kill themself.
>>565036025issa negative
>>565038004Yukio Mishima trained in Jigen-ryu? Based.
>>565038424kek...OK but that one time he did the air super was kinoHe ALMOST learned a lesson tooAlmost.
>>565042609The ones where people won't stop dashing or jumping are always the best, but a close second is when people have tech, but forget that there's a world around the characters.
Played against a sol in a lobby and lost 0-22I just don't feel like I can ever beat that guy
I'm sure its because I'm bad but asuka feels like he does no damage
He's still screaming into the void to this very day.
>>565044968>wearing the others' colorsOK now THAT is kinoAlso kek
Imagine.
When BridgetTranny is not in the thread, other anons should ask: "where is BridgetTranny?"
where is BridgetTranny?
>>565044968I wish the other alts changed the color of the effects ngl. And I wish other characters got these alts.>>565045242Gawdlike...
>I'm just not ever gonna respect his normals, man.
>>565045418he went back to him home planet
>Happy Chaos has a Stone Clone function>its completely ephemeral and pointless
LUCKY
COOKIE
RAMLETHAL
>>565036025Dashblock nigga???
>>565049424YEAH
>>565049276>>565049368>>565049424SAY O NARA
i'm studying other games because strive is pissing me off why does this bitch have an overhead that can cancel into itself 3 times while being plus on block enough to chain into your jump cancellable low????
>>565050894vampire privilege
>>565050894because Rachel is a cancerous lump and fighting her feels like being raped by a man
>>565050894depends on the game youre talking about, shes not so bad in blazblue but in BBTag assists enable her to do things like quadruple high low mixups
>>565020019>>565020225coming from dix, where mai fans are basically the same thing but good, you don't want butterfly to be good
>>565021473Im not really sure why a character like Anji would want setup oki. He doesnt have to try hard to enforce his pressure
>>565036025i simply whiff punish the misplaced finer
>>565055460this jackass
>>565044968does this count?
>>565055182>he played Dix>long enough to find points of comparison between it and StriveLMAO
>>565055771Ken hasnt had this throw loop in a very long time
>>565055618>less disjointcan you even convert it into a knockdown on punish at max range?because if not, 5H is better>>565055771yeah, about that...i've tried to got back to it the last few days but i got so god damn angry it genuinely ruined my weekend
>>565056006It staggers on counterhit so you could do a fair bit like hammerfall or heat tackle at max range
>>565051507>fighting her feels like being raped by a manLike... like what you IMAGINE that feels like, right?
>>565056137fair, but to counterhit you need to throw this out and hope it works.5H is safer in that regard, where you can see his whiff and only press after
I was pretty happy about the season when I saw that the philosophy going forward was to bring everyone down a notch and actually nerf characters. I now realize that it was all a crock of shit. The strong characters hardly actually got nerfed and benefit greatly from the universal changes and renders a good third of the cast complete fodder when compared to them. Why the fuck would you ever play some characters when the top tiers just do everything for more reward and less risk? Why is Millia able to do more damage, with better mix, and better neutral than a character like Sol? It's a complete joke
>>565056247its also worth mentioning that it has 18 frames of recovery so its good to just toss out if your opponent is a bit too close for 5H to be comfortable
>>565056337>Why is Millia able to do more damage, with better mix, and better neutral than a character like Sol?...because she has to do like 5 times the amount of inputs Sol would need to do the same damage?
>>565056632So If Sol had to hit j.K > j.D over and over he would be justified in doing 220+ damage which leads to either a wallbreak or unreactable mix? Millia combos are not difficult by any means, so perhaps you mean just in terms of length. In that case, Sin does less damage while also using resource and worse conversion potential
Season 2 was when I had the most fun with Strive. What about you?
>>565056878Run up DP was actually useful sometimes back then, so I agree with you on season 2
>>565056359>18 frames of recoveryhuh, i didn't realize.explains pic related
>>565055647I'll allow it, but only because I'm weak to this shit.
>>565043460>literally nothinghit the servant maybe
>garuda +25 on hit>6H 23f startup>somehow doesn't combo even point blankhuh?
>>565055364because Fuujin+PKSH was slow and shit back then, I had thought devs intended Butterfly to be used togethersomething like Butterfly (1) > Fuujin > Butterfly (2) > Rin/Nagiha > SKD, because Rin and barely even Nagiha was gapless (that infamous Leo DP vs Fuujin webm)but since the 2nd(?) major update, devs forgot about it and left it as that gimmicky Butterfly > 5D/2D > safe/loop for years, all through the Midare addition, chain Fuujin rework, and now super Fuujin rework
Doda Kokoda Imada Stun Dippa
doko mitendayo
>>565061116they probably did intend for them to be used together but in guilty gear tradition vestigial tools get powercrept in favor of a characters one big gimmick (see +R and Rev 2)
>>565063869Whats Giovannas one big gimmick?
>>565064257Throw loops
>>565032234Yeah, the point was that RC was always inconsistent and there never was a point where you could RC everything.
>>565061837
>>565067184>That was a thing>No, it's not a thing for this game and entirely different in another>That was ALWAYS a thing, it was NEVER not a thingYou aren't very smart
>>565072884The original contention was "there shouldn’t randomly be moves you can’t rc", and I clarified that there being moves you can't RC has always been a thing since at least +R. Not being able to RC Grand Viper on whiff is just as arbitrary and "random" as not being able to cancel Volcanic Viper on hit. Both are exceptions made in name of balance. The RC system has never been consistent. I would argue that it's the most consistent it has ever been in Strive, but that's an argument of semantics.
>>565030086To be honest, I wouldn’t mind having Delilah on my bed. Could be fun.
>>565074576NTA but what the fuck are you talking about, you just can’t rc stuff if it whiffs. You can rc anything that’s a strike on hit or block. The only exceptions are frcs.
We were all saying the one thing Nago needed was a massive disjoint with no recoveryhttps://x.com/Scissors_FGC/status/2048948360480973016
>>565081095But have you considered muh blood?
>>565079596My reference was to Grand Viper in Xrd, where you can't PRC it but you can PRC other, similar low-profile moves. As for +R, you said it yourself:>The only exceptions are the numerous exceptions the game has
>>565081095>does parry out of range>didn't get punished and?
>>565081802The Nago could've easily punished if he wasn't retarded
There should be a separate roman cancel resource meter, like in KOF 13, and unless you have it at 100%, you're locked out of degenerate RC options.
>>565081710>The only exceptions are the numerous exceptions the game hasNo. That's not an exception.There are two kinds of RCs in the XX series. The regular RC. This can be done on any strike on hit or block, during active frames or during recovery.It cannot be done on whiff, it cannot be done on startup, and it cannot be done on projectiles.The ONLY oddity of RC is that some throws let you RC and others don't.FRC is a different mechanic. These follow one very simple rule: you can FRC during the FRC frames.There are 0 rules as to where FRC frames can be. They can be during startup frames, active frames, or recovery frames. They can be attached to projectiles or attacks that have no active frames at all. They can be attached to normals or specials or even throws.That's it. The only exception to RC rules in XX games is throws.
>>565081710The only exception is frcs, nothing else. You can't RC anything if it whiffs but you can FRC moves that have an FRC point, it's very consistent that you can RC anything that's a strike that hits or gets blocked. No weird shit like in strive where it's just whichever move they thought was bigoted.
Roman cancels are just missing link's charge cancels, but with an attached tension cost on use.
i dont understand what to do against anji.like, i cant poke him, if i go to the corner im just guessing for my life, I cant go for jump ins, i cant meaty him if he has meter.What do i do.
ROMANTIC
amberjack
>>565084518>anything that's a strike that hits or gets blockedAnd throws, but not all of them as that other anon pointed out. So just whichever throw they thought was bigoted.
>>565085278Just throw him, or make him gamble away his meter.
>>565085703Some throws yes, though it's because they involve strikes for some odd reason. But that's the only thing I would ever call inconsistent about the RC mechanic in the main game.
>>565085278Unfortunately the only counter play to Anji is play his game and guess better
>>565085278In +R you can low profile most of his stuff with like Sol 2D
>>565087251>But that's the only thing I would ever call inconsistentReally? You wouldn't call some moves arbitrarily having FRC points of arbitrary length 'inconsistent'? To me, that's easily the most inconsistent part of XX. I mean hell, the other post even said that FRC frames have zero rules to their placement. What is that if not extreme inconsistency?
>>565090121there are no difficult or inconsistent rules to FRCs. If an attack has FRC frames, it can be FRCed, and FRC frames can be anywhere. Are some way harder than others? Yes. Do they have wildly variable levels of usefulness? Yes. However you just press RC during the window and it'll work. That simple.
>>565091120But in the context of the entire Roman Cancel system it introduces inconsistency in that only some moves can be FRC'd and only at certain points with seemingly no rhyme or reason.>However you just press RC during the window and it'll work. That simple.The same applies to Strive though. You press the RC during a move and if it can be RC'd it'll work. That simple, no inconsistency there.
>>565090121I’m sorry but you may be retarded. My point was there’s no excuse for not being able to rc some strikes (in this case dps) on block or hit, just because Sol is a straight white man. FRCs aren’t inconsistent because they don’t take away RC at all. You can’t RC ground viper on whiff because it whiffed instead of hitting or getting blocked, that’s how every RC is. Being confused about why only some moves have FRC points is as retarded as being confused about why every character has different properties on moves like jD, 2D, and 6P despite them having a general shared purpose.
>>565091485There's a difference between "this move has an FRC window so you can FRC it" and "this move has a no-RC rule attached to it" though that is better than the previous "this move has a maybe RC window attached to it" which was the case with some moves disallowing PRC while they now disallow RC entirely.
I'm gonna RC my lust shaker into your starship.
no one says soive anymore
>>565092087I'm sorry but it seems you may be brainbroken seeing as how you constantly try to bring identity politics into this when it has nothing to do with the topic. >there’s no excuse for not being able to rc some strikes (in this case dps) on block or hitThe excuse is the same as it is for only some moves having FRC points: game balance. >>565092394Only a very technical difference. Both fall into the category of: "this move behaves differently than most other moves in the context of the RC system", which I would deem an inconsistency. Mind you, I don't think there's anything bad with inconsistency, just pointing out that the RC system has been inconsistent since the start.> that is better than the previous "this move has a maybe RC window attached to it" which was the case with some movesThat's still the case with throws in Strive.
>>565093169who does he main?
>>565093429FRC is a separate thing, although they’re definitely not inconsistent themselves either. It never takes away the ability to RC. In strive it’s literally just randomly you can’t rc things that are unsafe even though that’s the point of the mechanic. I think you just didn’t know how RC works and are digging yourself a deeper hole by saying absolutely retarded stuff.
>>565093169Goldlewis bought his discord kitten's entire Amazon wishlist goddamn
how are you people still arguing this?it's only strive that randomly disables your ability to RC on blockRCing on whiff isn't something you can normally do in +RFRC is a separate action with specific points of moves where it can be done, it is it's own mechanicXrd made RCing on whiff universal but left DP RC on whiff still illegal to do because that would be too strongStrive randomly turned off DP on block because twitter kept posting about itStrive has a lot of random half baked ideas that are a result of just using a bunch of stuff from previous games while gutting a bunch of base mechanicsLike they removed the plus frames off of STBT H even though that fuzzy timing has existed since the dawn of time in GG. It's why they had to make blue burst fullscreen. It's why they had to immediately rip off the additional blockstun for FDing.It's even why they added that shitty FD macro no one uses.
Man Goldlewis really feels built for arcade stick. BTs are easy on leverless but I can’t mentally connect the direction to the inputs as easily as just churning the direction you want to swing. And forget about getting enough rotations out for his max level OD.
>>565093761FRC is literally a Roman Cancel, it's in the name.>In strive it’s literally just randomly you can’t rc And in +R you randomly can't FRC some moves.> even though that’s the point of the mechanic.Neat, got a developer quote to go along with that? Fact of the matter is that things that you can RC in Strive are far more consistent than things you can FRC in +R. You can't RC frame-1 strike-invincible moves (except Nago's bloodrage super which I will grant is a major inconsistency but I would also argue that it's probably an oversight that will be fixed in a later patch) and you can't RC whiffed throw recovery. That's it. Whereas there are no rules as to what you can and cannot FRC in +R, it is far more inconsistent.
>>565093524Goldlewis.
>>565085278most of it is grabbing Fuujin/Spin start or getting punished "less" by using a fast P/Kmakes me wonder if baking AG into his shit again would really have got more complaints
>>565094056kek
>>565094446>FRC is a separate action with specific points of moves where it can be done, it is it's own mechanicIt's part of the overall Roman Cancel system, just as much as YRC is in Strive. It uses the same input and has Roman Cancel in the name. I can't be bothered to check but I would also wager it has the same impact on tension pulse as well. I could just as well argue that not being able to RC during reversals is it's own mechanic and doesn't count as part of the RC system, but that's obviously nonsense.Even if you want to argue that FRC is it's own separate mechanic and doesn't count as RC, that's actually worse for your overall argument, because then you would have to admit that several moves have random, arbitrary frames where you aren't allowed to use RC.
>>565094645I don’t think youre actually retarded enough to be confused by what I’m saying but there’s literally no dp or strike in general that can’t be RC’d, and you can only RC on block or hit. You cannot RC on whiff. You can FRC which is not affected by whiffing as it cuts separately and doesn’t behave the same way an RC does.
>>565095360FRC doesn’t disable RC and there’s no moves in +R you randomly can’t RC. This is not a real argument and you’re just crying about people not worshipping the brisket game.
Why do we have daily rants of people shouting into the void about Strive’s mechanics? Game has been out for half a decade. Go play something else. Every GG is still active.
>>565096448I only joined this argument because he said not being able to rc ground viper on whiff was the same as not being able to rc a dp at all. But yeah I think I’ll just stick to +R.
>>565095885>FRC doesn’t disable RC and there’s no moves in +R you randomly can’t RCDoesn't it? It uses the same input as RC. How can you use regular RC during an FRC window that's during active frames or recovery? Admittedly I don't have that many hours in +R, is there some secret tech that I am unaware of?>you’re just crying about people not worshipping the brisket game.Nani the fuck? I don't think I've made a qualitative comment about either game. Being inconsistent isn't necessarily bad. Certainly being able to RC absolutely everything in Strive would be the most consistent, but that would be a pretty poor system in my opinion compared to the current one.
>>565096639It is the same, namely an arbitrary exception, but that Grand Viper comment was in reference to Xrd where you can RC on whiff regularly but can't RC on whiff with Grand Viper. I already explained this before.
>>565096667You just sound too dumb for me to even imagine you actually believe you’re right here. In no way is random moves having RC turned off less inconsistent than every strike being able to RC. FRC is a separate thing as it does not do what RC does and does not have the same restriction of requiring it to connect on block or hit, nor does it remove the ability to RC moves that also have FRCs. There’s no strikes you can randomly not RC. FRC points existing is the same as cancel properties existing.
>>565096852You can’t RC anything on whiff so how is that comparable to RC randomly not existing for some strikes?
>>565097518You can RC almost everything in whiff IN XRD. Can you read? Yes, you cannot RC on whiff +R, but it has it's own inconsistent mess in FRC (and also in throws, which we already covered).>>565097286>nor does it remove the ability to RC moves that also have FRCs. There’s no strikes you can randomly not RC.Okay, let me try one more time to lay out the argument.In my opinion FRCs are a part of the RC system, and thus the +R RC system is inconsistent.IF however, I grant you your argument that FRC is it's own separate mechanic and not part of the RC system, then the RC system is inconsistent because some strikes have specific frames where performing a RC is impossible. You cannot perform a regular RC during FRC frames, correct? So if a move has FRC frames during active or recovery frames, you cannot regular RC it. Now, I think this is rather silly line of logic, but it is what one must conclude if one insists that FRC is not part of the overall RC system and it's own separate mechanic.
>>565098391This is too much of a clown shoes argument I should’ve expected it from someone defending the worst change in an already highly questionable game
>>565098558Well yes, it is extremely silly to argue that Forced Roman Cancel isn't a part of the Roman Cancel system and it leads to other very silly things, glad I could change your mind. I do have to point out that I have never defended the change in Strive, though I personally do like it. You seem to be the one desperately trying to defend a game you like when we are not even discussing the quality of either game.
>hc if strive was good
Catching up on last night’s TNS and god is Anji not the most boring character to watch? I’d rather watch HC players test their execution on the infinite than Anji players play heads or tails every round
>>565098968It’s an incredibly bad comparison when FRCs don’t actually change what you can RC or not. You can RC any dp or strike in general. I don’t want to just repeat myself so I’m bored of arguing with someone who likes such a change then.
>>565099993>FRCs don’t actually change what you can RC or not.They do though, regardless of whether or not you count a FRC as a RC. If they count as RCs, they allow you to RC things that you otherwise could not, and if you don't count them as RCs they make it so you can't RC certain strikes during certain frames. But yeah, I'm perfectly happy to stop arguing this since both you and the other guy stopped making actual arguments and simply resorted to ad hominems and appealing to motive.
>>565100519
>>565049682Potemkin using Ram's swords.... Actually looks cool as shit?Damn
>>565055771
>>565063840i like doing homing dash/jump in xrd and spamming 5h or j.h and hearing ky say "DOKO DOKO DOKO DOKO"
Why does every Youtuber sound like they're being held at gunpoint when giving any praise to 2.0?
>>565102139You don't know about the anime illuminati?
>>565102139Maybe watch people who actually play the game
>>565094645>FRC is literally a Roman Cancel, it's in the name.FRC breaks basically all the rules of normal roman cancels.Normal RC rules:- only strikes- only during active/recovery- only on hit/blockFRC lets you cancel:- non-strikes like projectiles or moves with no hitbox at all- the startup of moves before the active frames come out- on whiffits a different type of RC that breaks all the rules of regular RC.
>>565093429there's some overlap between being /Pol/ obsessed and defending retarded stuff from older games
>>565057201>1100 DR vs 1900 DRmatch making might be flawed
>>565102578The BlazBlue commentary guy?
>here's, there's this mechanic >however if you input it in an arbitrary window, you get to ignore it's rules>that's what we call... consistency
How do people feel about the Dizzy redesign outside of the lack of skin? It’s really just Necro and Undine that I dislike. Can’t understand why they’d make them so less prominent and the same color
>>565103930yes actually. Did I mention it also costs half?
>>565103930it's consistently inconsistent tbf
I took a break for a few days, and I come back and immediately win 8 sets in a row. What the fuck happened?
>>565104809I think the idea of Necro and Undine being the shadows of her wings is interesting but it doesn't work that well in practice.
did Ky really need this new move.
>>565107817i might be a moron but ive never even realized that was the intention
>>565108112It's not enough still
>>565108256you cant be serious
they gave millia a new move then they took it away...
Can I get some opinions on these sets against Gio that I won? I don't feel proud of them even though I ultimately won.https://streamable.com/c1tbeqhttps://streamable.com/x7d1sr
>>565108853remember that time you raged at an innocent lobby goer
>>565111243Yes, and I apologized. You act like you've never been mad from this game.
I have never been mad from Strive.
>>565111491just reminding you that you only deserve the treatment you give to othersfuck off already
Why did 2.0 apparently fail?
>>565111702Thanks, mom. You're straight up giving me the same advice that my mom gave me growing up, but she didn't practice what she preached, and what I mean by that is she would blow up over small mistakes anyone made, and that's reflected onto me. I am working on bettering myself. I go to therapy once a week to fix this.
>>565112287No gabriel
>>565112287Not enough nerfs.
>>565112287Anji is a top tier.
https://youtu.be/DL7-CKirWZE
Can someone help me.How do you do the part that Gobou did in this vid?https://youtu.be/Z2IMZNogY98?t=154The Gekirin > RCC > cS part? What button did he press to land down fast to do cS?
>>565116136To be honest, I have no idea. Drift downwards quick canceled with an air normal?
>>565116136probably frc j.P
it's not even a macro its just a dash button.
>>565119317oh no he's retarded
>>565119317>dash macro being a problemThe Universal 2F throw alone is scarier than any "dash macro" gimmick. The Strike Throw menace is so powerful that round like that between 2 EVO champs happen btw. >>565101560
how the fuck is universal 2f throw a problem we came from universal 1f throw lmaoooooooooo
What's the point of playing a grappler if universal throws are faster and still do decent damage?Like a Strike Throw Sol is a better grappler than Potemkin desu.
this is what pot players actually believe
>>565121901What's the point of playing a grappler if he gets little oki of his cmd throw?
>>565122591the worst part is theyre rightthey are still top tier due to their completely retarded buttons, so much so that they dont even need the command grab on the grappler
>>565104809they got the cancer rightbut now you can't call them slut-whore players, which is arguably worse
>>565101560But... but GIOVANNA is the one who should be doing that to him...
Strivefags trying to dictate game balance is always the funniest shit. Like sit down, little bro. We know from ArcSys' numbers that 84% of you aren't even 30.
>>565123405If Pot is that good, why do no pros players play him? Where's his results?
>>565119317it's too late thoughstrive literally only functions on dash macro
>>565121901Isn't universal throws being faster than command grabs the norm across fighters?
>>565010614genuinely why did they ever think the airdash we have now was a good idea
>>565050894rachel is pretty fucked up in cf, shes considered top 3 for a reason. just be glad out of all the top tiers she is probably the least popular for some reason even though i think she is the most fun out of all of them.
>>565124926Because every character having an unreactable neutral skip that they can do simply by pressing 696 isn't a recipe for a fun game.
>>565126105>every character having an unreactable neutral skip isn't a recipe for a fun game.Dixbros...
>>565126105i dont get why you play an anime fighter when you just want to play street fighter
>>565123607>>565126105unc might have a point...
>>565126296Because as >>565126278 very aptly pointed out, the only Street Fighter game with any sort of reasonably sized playerbase, good netcode and matchmaking also has an unreactable neutral skip as a system mechanic. It also looks and sounds like garbage.I really don't understand this idea that every anime fighter has to be kusoge central because of... the artstyle? Like those two things are entirely unconnected.
>>565126639faggots that have contempt for a sub genre while actively trying to insert themselves into it deserve to be hung
>>565123835He said this because he does not win consistently in GGST and is wanting "harder execution" to cull the playerbase.
>>565126758>Play a game>Like the way the game is compared to other, similar games>"Waah stop trying to insert yourself into our subgenre!Uh, okay? What can I say man, I like Strive more than Xrd because of the way it plays.
>>565126105it was never unreactable in neutral lmaothe delay was added to prevent late airdash being used as an unreactable mixup
>defending dash macroi thought this was /gbvsg/ for a second
>>5651202831f proximity throws would fix this
melty blood had as dash macro since 2007 and it was never a problem, maybe guilty gear is just dogshit
>>565119317what prompted this lol
>>565127163I still remember that one butthurt pro who said he deserved to win against newcomers simply by knowledge- and execution-checking and that the game was bad because it didn't allow for that as much.
i don't know a dash macro in most games cause i don't like how it feels. basically the only one is uni but thats cause i play vatista and you can hide gem charges using it
>dash macro is good and comfy>slower dashes are OK>easier execution requirements are OKAt age 40 my eyes, mind and hands just ain't what they used to be so this is all fine by me.I'm sorry zoomies.
>>565127650i dont use*
>>565127786losing any of this as you age is a myth considering how many pros are old as fuck in a multitude of esport games. you just live an unhealthy life and youre a faggot
>Sokka has an Girlfriend Install!!When is Frederick getting Girlfriend Install too?!
>>565128076Yeah, that's nice buddy.Tell you what, get back to me on that one in, say, 20 years or so, see how that goes.
>>565120283At least you can punish the throw if you correctly read it and jump or backdash. It's dangerous but it's not SF6 levels of "deal with it"
>>565128205go outside for a walk for once in your life and get back to me in 1
How do you get close to Axl? People say dash block but I do and I just get thrown back where I came from until I get chipped.
>>565128112>Sol activates Jaggo Install>she trips him up with 2D instead of helping him
>>565128427remember that jaggo is canonically a retarded child now and that sol does all the housework while she lazes around watching tv
So is there any secret Sin counterplay I should know about or is it the same "if he makes you block ever you have to guess and pray"?Unless there's something I should be doing and aren't, it feels even worse than usual, since now he gets to use food after throws to restore stamina.
>>565128292You will remember these words soon enough and you will feel very foolish indeed.
>>565128112>All DLC characters get a new move>Johnny gets an install that gives the opponent cancer>Animation is May and her crew blowing him kisses>Everyone goes apeshit and cancels shartsys
>>565129051yeah nah
>>565129089>All DLC characters get a new moveConsidering their pace, Strive 2 would release before they managed to add one for all of them.
>>565128959Living the dream...Both of them tbdesu
>>565128367you need to grasp his patterns and find an opening on a read IE: you read he's going to 2H, so you IADyou read he's going to 5L. so you run straight at him because that shit whiffs for whatever reason
>>565131569>5L
larping ahh uncs genuinely hating on the dash macro in strive should be forced to fight axl without one
You can spot a grubber by the concave dent in the middle of their head
YAHOO
Damn, Grubbas look like THAT??
But I am the Axl, broccoli-hair
>>565132456I've been found out...
>>565133057Axl and Mario should be lovers.
>>565061116>This is all mashable by 8f buttons>No good mash catching options even existed for most patches because the butterfly itself would just make all combos worthless>Not auto timed>Can't really add good damage or carry even if you spend meter>All for actual throw damage I mean I can see why
zoners being extra egregious in this game is a combination of AD delay, blue Burst stronger than ever, and 2f IB in a game with fucking late cancelling
Delete all zoners, grapplers, and puppetniggersI have saved the fighting game genre
Why are there so many Dizzy players, especially at high rank and tourneys now
>>565137475Dizzy a cuteAlso she seems stronger now.
>>565137475She's a pretty lady
>>565137475She's good, versatile, and the least likely to get hard nerf in upcoming patches.
LEAVE WICKED FOREST ALONEIT IS A SANCTUARY... FOR HER TO LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER
>>565137475Dizzy milk
>>565137475projectile spam zoner that can out-zoner most zoners
Any good Jambros have advice for the Lucy MU? Feels like she can just tardmash 2S in neutral with impunity and none of my buttons work.
>>565141770Tardmash 2H or puffball
>>565141770genuinely just mash brake until they stop respecting it then crack their head with CH puffball > card up fnor if you can just get carded low just do that to get in
>cute faces>smoking hot bodies>shapeshifter>can alter size at will>playful personalitiesI want a succubus familiar gf so bad...
>>5651424582S stuffs both of those>>565142642My issue is that in the time that I'm breaking Lucy will have already run up and put me in pressure since she's so fast. It feels like I have to just give up on neutral and try to win on defense which is quite ass. Was wondering if there was a good thing I could do with my normals instead of yolo ryujin/puffball
>>565143954jam doesnt have neutral. you need to whiff punish gigantic normals with tiny buttons (impossible) or yolo neutral skipwatch gobou play and watch him brake 3 times in a row at round start
>>565144113You got a link to Gobou's VoDs or streams?
>>565144184most of High Level Gameplay jam uploads are gobou, just check the playlist of jam
>>565144184https://www.youtube.com/@%E5%BE%A1%E5%82%8D
bakou shishou
East Coast room up and rockingI'm learning Zato, about 2 weeks into my progress. I am pretty shit and would really like pointers and tips on my play stylePlease join and throw handsLobby ID: 801088Album recommendation for the lobby: Enjoy - The Sound of Deceit
>>565144113literally half screen+ distance whiff punishes with ryujin and puffball, wtf are you smoking
Why did they give Nago a nearly fullscreen low that combos, is cancellable, is not punishable even when not, and completely nullifies his need for meter management with no downside.
I played a few placment matches but couldn't get a single round on anyone. Jam, Sin and Ky block string me into the corner and I couldn't find when to attack after blocking. The gaps in pressure did not seem obvious to me. Is there a playlist of basic stuff I should know about how to play against each character?
>>565148154Anyone? I might go fuck off and make dinner if it's dead atm
>>565149893wyell...nyou see... he nyeeds it...
>>565150032I'm down to play tomorrow but I'm in my jammies rn
>>565149989There are videos but nothing will help guide you better than experience and playing with intent. Knowledge comes with experience in this game. You're never gonna play perfectly but with experience you'll come to recognize situations. For instance if someone is laying pressure on thick and you're doing a good job at blocking, they may try to grab or dust you because you're blocking. They'll stop their pressure for a moment to go in for that grab, in which you counter it.6p (forward punch) is a really useful tool to break the enemy jumping in, and your 5p (normal punch) is typically great for mashing out of situations or starting stagger pressure. Become good at blocking, their pressure will have a gap, seize the gap and the opportunity it gives you. There is always a way out!
>>565150558there is too much horny Jack-O sfw art and not enough outright Jack-O porn
>>565151489She is taken, which means that any porn made of her with faceless, nameless men instead of Sol is NTR and NTR is a degenerate, despicable fetish.
Is there an Asuka matchup chart somewhere?
>>565148154busy tonight sadlyhopefully will be able to host this weekend
>>565151489Because Jacko is a meme character that twitter people drew for likesshe is not actually sexy enough for people to bother to draw porn of
>>565152561>she is not actually sexyGayest post I've seen all year and I frequent this AND the Grub general. And holy fuck, people are GAY over there.
How do you even play against Venom. I have no fucking clue where the gaps in his pressure are, I just wait 10 million years for a turn and sometimes win
>>565152729anime sameface white lady with a tiny stick body and braindead housewife characterization, I guess that might be attractive if you're like, 50, but everyone else can do better
>>565153079OK homo...
inb4 someone greentexts tiny stick body while posting fanart with the ridiculously off-model proportions people draw jacko with to pretend she's hot
>>565153079we appreciate a good slimthick becky ice queen here little timmy
>>565153362lmaoinstantaneously. >>565153250Cope, boomer
jaggo seggs
>>565128959Since when? I thought she was for all intents and purposes just Aria now
only if she keeps the mask on
>>565153621>>565153362>i-i-it's le off model!Gay blind retards will tell you without a hint of irony that this is a """stick body""" and that >>565153250 is wildly off modelTits are bigger in that pic but her in game hips are actually WIDER
>>565148154still open?
Gios ugly
>>565154362jack-o's boobs be crazy bouncing in her walk forward animation when she's carrying minions
>>565153079We can acknowledge she’s a generic anime character while also acknowledging that she’s hot
>>565154203No, Aria's memory ghost inside Jacko's head said "You're Aria now" and fucked off, but it didn't actually change her at all and she's still the same pointless wallflower that she was through all of story mode.There was a Daisuke interview where he said what I said, but like all of these ancient Daisuke interviews from when Strive was relevant, I cannot find it anymore
how come there's always a million dogwater character guides but the literal only person making counterplay guides is a Pot main who makes them for Pot matchups specifically
>>565154930Depending on what you mean the answer is either genehavers have no idea what they're doing and learn everything automatically by vibes, or that the only people making videos are pros and wannabe pros who think they have financial incentive to not tell people how to beat their character
>>565152729apologize to the grubbers right now
So I had possibly the worst day of my life today. Who wants to hear about it while I drown my sorrows in wine?
I'm going to bed but MAKE SURE SHE POSTS HER BUTT WHEN SHE'S DRUNK
>>565155315>sheyou can be a chaser if you so choose but if the tranny in question is hateful you have to emotionally abuse and neg the sex out of them, not simp
>>565155315I'll try, brother.
BridgetTranny shlicks on the bed
>>565155579I was upset, and I apologized.>>565155606Good luck. I may be drunk and my vision is blurry and I'm giggly but I'm not stupid enough to post a pic of my butt for some anon on 4chan. I didn't notice, but in the first post I used a question mark on accident. Like Bedman?
>>565155994Being drunk and giggly is the perfect reason, it'll make you feel good now more than any other time.
>>565155195They were LITERALLY posting Kou as I made that post here.
>>565156272No. I'm not interested.
>>565156402Some anon attention is sure to brighten your bad day.
>>565156378issa one guy
>>565156783Yes but not in that way. So yesterday, I went to an employment hiring office for a comapny that does data entry stuff. They said I'd have an answer by end of day yesterday. End of day came. No answer. So I called them this morning, said they haven't heard anything themselves3 hours later they call me and I can hear the frustration in their voice>Hey BridgetTranny so, as it turns out, they've put on a hiring freeze, they're not just not hiring you. They're not hiring anyone. I am so sorry.But it gets even betterrrrrSo I go to my current job, and ask about hours picking up since one of my coworkers quit. >Budget has been cut even more. I only have 80 hours to give. So I can't schedule you at all. I'm sorryWhich, fucking great, right?
>>565157115Anywayshere's what I'm drinking tonight. It's cheap, but it's good
>>565153079>>white lady with a tiny stick body and braindead housewife characterization>implying this is unattractive in any capacityglowsprove you're straight right now
>>565157115Maybe you should try showing your butt to your employer.
ragey
>>565157032You know what, I can believe that actually because I know some dedicated posters can make literal hundreds of posts about the same subject over the course of months, weeks even.
>>565157032Make that at least two
Okay I'm in bed now watching Doug Walker's "Kickassia"
I'm in bed masturbating to Kou
>>565152561>>565153079https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9MF4VhLVPY
how would YOU make jam gameplay interesting to watch?going for super specific parry counterplay?weird 214k metered mixups?lowprofiling super specific shit with brake?
>>565161356play her in xrd
>irukasan>IIIIIRUKAAAAA-SAAAAAAAAAAAAN
>>565161356This image is very funny! I just saw End of Evangelion in theaters the other day
So my parents live in Mexico, they retired there. Older brother went with them. I talked to my mom about my frustrations from earlier and like told her how I want to meet someone down the line, and if I move to Mexico with them I have to give that up>Well maybe meeting someone isn't meant to be for you BridgetTranny Fuckin bitch. Why was I even born then???
>>565162027wait what the hell, I thought the EoE post was a low effort false flag
>>565119317Debtroid needs to win something, or shut up.
>>565162418>Why was I even born then???To show /ggg/ your butt.
>>565162483No actually saw it! See? Here's my ticket stub.
>>565128112I love that we're getting unironic neo-90s licensed kusoge fighting games now, and that people who used to hate licensed fighters pretend that this is somehow okay now.
>>565162882impossible. that's a male hand
>>565163105I'm a tranny anon, plus I'm chubby.
BridgetTranny is a weird case.Anyone would think it's just trolling to make fun of Strive trannies, but he's been at it for so long that either being someone making fun of trannies or an actual deranged person makes little difference he has also posted pics he got from transgender subreddits claiming they were his
>>565163676That's literally me tho! Like I used to use reddit judge how I looked!
>>565163676>>565163753And none of them were butt?
>>565163963No. Look I'm literally willing to put on my Bridget hoodie rn, and post a selfie proving I am who I say I am.
>>565162882Quick, someone doxx him. Also are you going to post your bussy or at least a selfie with timestamp?
>>565164219I'll do the latter. Give me a sec.
>>565164092Go ahead, do it. Also if you sneak even a tiny bit of butt in there, I'll be eternally grateful.
Kewl
>>565165243Very nice. Now the backside, doko
>>565165449No. Honestly taking that pic while drunk was kinda hard. That was my 5th attempt.
>>565165243God damn, strivers look like THAT?>>565165586Nigga why did you doxx yourself? Stop drinking and go to bed.
>>565165702I didn't dox myself stupid. You don't know my name, nor my address. You know I live in Seattle but I've said that before! I literally wasn't playing Strive for 6 months because USPS broke my PC in transit to Seattle. And I talked about there.
Guilty gear was always primarily about getting fat, insecure people to post pics of themselves.
>>565165702>>565165832Also I look like shit cause I'm drunk. My hair is messy and I look unkempt because I am right now.Godamn
>>565165243Menard don't you have a ft10 to play with Daigo
Anyways I'm going to bed. Good night.
>>565154930I thought people zealously guarded their counterplay is why (even in fucking strive)like, remember that one guy getting upset for losing some ~$300 tourney specifically because their opponent studied character-specific videos on those replay channels?and then told all the channels to take video with him playing in it down?shit like this is partly why devs that don't play their own game never understand their own game to then fix it up
What the fuck is wrong with you people
>>565167669What did we do?
>>565167669>you peopleits just one guy
If we get another collab character I hope they're more interesting. I have low hopes of it being something really cool, so I hope it's at least something we can have fun joking about.Lucy is just kind of like... whatever. Doesn't have much going on outside of surprise value.
Normally I'd assume something like this is just an overly elaborate LARP and carefully edited images....But I've increasingly been forced to come to terms with just how many underage people are in the most my hobbies, and this DOES seem like the kind of retard behavior you'd see from a kid.
>>565168716don't expect another guest. the cyberpunk collab happened due to very strange circumstances
>>565168972He has said he's in his 30s but who knows if that's true.
it says a lot that the only quasi-big memes ggst lucy got were about the fucking fake load bearing goku
Why did I post a Pic of myself? Oh my god.
they're doing BBCF Hazama birthday mirrors on Honkan SSL if you wanna watch
>>565171161Nice.
>>565171161Love watching lonely people mash specials in dead games.
>>565171056Just an fyi but posts get (permanently?) archived on 4chan archive sites it never really went away. In general anything you post online is forever (unless it's actually useful then the website/thread goes away forever).
>>565173415I know. I was drunk though and not thinking about that
>>565173736Well, now you know. This place is small so nothing serious will probably happen, but I would not recommend doing that again. Anyways, have a good night.
>>565173736Literally suffering a regret crash less than 3 hours after posting cringe. Get off the internet.
>>565174307Eh not that regretful.
Millia is just Ky with lower damage.
>>565176401HOLY
PIPING HOT
I'm gonna beat jacko to death with a pipe
>>565177360I love strive jaggo and her autistic manners.
>>565177718She is EXTREMELY cute, yes, I love her animations and demeanor.I am a shitter playing her in shitter ranks but even there she's a lot of fun
>>565176401Millia wishes he had his neutral, footsies and a safejab standing low...
>>565177972Actually nevermind, I just had 2 matches against Jam and one against Millia and I had the opposite of fun, my session is now ruined.
>>565179110Ky wishes he had her ability to inflict mental damage while sapping away all the opponent's tension.
millia sapping my tension...
Original outfit when?
>>565180943strive millia could NOT fit in that, bro
>>565182367How DOES she move around so fast, and double jump and all with her MASSIVE ass?
>>565180943Pray for legacy costumes?
>>565182472It's assassin magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.
>>565161356the response from allowing Slayer to left/right Max Doods is probably what resulted in Mawari-less, Senri-less JamSlayer intern must've got fired
>>565183984>it's ASSASS magicYeah, I can tell...
>>565152327There's a matchup section on his dustloop page but that's all I can think of.
heh
Daigo was once a GG player therefore Daigo must win.
but Daigo sucks payment processor cock
blocking charge dust atacks should guard break yes?
>>565184804?????
>>565185248No.
>>565185258I thought everyone knew about ithis whole REJECT team even
>check the matchup tab for my character against Testament on dustloop>stated to be disadvantagous for me>check Testaments matchup tab against my character>stated to be disadvantagous for TestamentAh, so it's like that
>>565190162The mirror match is not always 5-5, you should already know this.
If a matchup is 2-2 where does the remaining 6 go
>>565191937To Leo
>>5651919372-2 is short for 2-2-6, where 6 means both players draw out.so it's an even match, but a high likelyhood for draw/time outs which is something you should consider if you have weak mental and break down over time
Why is there no EVO Legends UMISHO vs. John Money sisters
>>565191937You keep it for later
>>565192297Short answer: that match basically **doesn’t exist as a real EVO set**, so you’re not finding it because it never actually happened in bracket.Here’s what’s going on:### 1. **UMISHO is real (and famous at EVO)*** UMISHO is a top *Guilty Gear -Strive-* player* She won **EVO 2022** in that game ([The Game Haus][1])So any “EVO Legends” clip involving her would have to come from:* Guilty Gear Strive brackets* or exhibition/side content (not official matches)---### 2. “John Money sisters” isn’t a real EVO competitor/teamThere’s **no record of a player, team, or duo called “John Money sisters”** in EVO results, brackets, or known FGC players.That name sounds like one of these instead:* a **meme / parody edit*** a **fan-made “EVO Legends” video title*** or a **misheard / misremembered name**---### 3. “EVO Legends” is usually *content*, not official matchesA lot of videos labeled things like:* “EVO Legends”* “Legendary matchups”* “What if fights”are:* highlight compilations* joke edits* or completely fictional matchupsThey are **not official tournament sets**, and EVO itself is just an open bracket tournament with real recorded matches ([Giant Bomb][2]).---### 4. So why you can’t find itBecause:* It’s **not an actual recorded EVO match*** The opponent name **doesn’t correspond to a real player*** The clip (if you saw one) was likely **edited or mislabeled content**---### If you want, send me the clip/titleIf you drop the exact video name or screenshot, I can:* identify what it *actually* is* tell you the real players (if any)* or confirm if it’s just a meme editRight now, though, there’s no real “UMISHO vs John Money sisters” in EVO history.
>>565192831Can you rephrase this message in the lingua franca of a Kizzington?
I'm not reading all of that, but I'm proud of you if you wrote that out by hand and didn't have it generated by chatgpt
>>565192937That whole “UMISHO vs. John Money sisters” thing? It’s like someone handed you a menu item that sounds gourmet, but the kitchen never actually cooked it. No ingredients, no recipe—just vibes.UMISHO is real—top-shelf cut, perfectly seared, Michelin-star execution at EVO. Thas gawdlike.But “John Money sisters”? That’s like ordering a signature dish that isn’t on the menu anywhere. No chef in the FGC kitchen is serving that. It’s probably a meme soufflé—looks fancy, collapses the moment you poke it.“EVO Legends” clips are often just highlight platters or fusion experiments—mixing real flavors with imaginary sauces. Not every dish you see there was actually served in tournament.So yeah, you’re not finding that match because it’s basically a ghost recipe. Smells real, tastes like nothing.
>>565192831>Shewtf I thought AI didn't make mistakes?
>I thought AI didn't make mistakes?brother...
Give me the over/under on a Tokon beta being announced this weekend.
the type lumina update announcement will save anime fighters. Strivers won't care because they are just sf rejects not real anime players.
Lumina 2.0 (真)?
DNF Duel update announcement will save anime fighters. Strivers won't care because they are just sf rejects not real anime players.
DNF 2.0 ( 真真)?
the jump force update announcement will save anime fighters. Strivers won't care because they are just sf rejects not real anime players.
so everyone in guilty gear can use infinite magic and use magic to do literally whatever they want with no rhyme or reasonbut the second best magic user can only use specific generic spells and is limited by mana?
>>565200616I think lightning and teleportation magic are supposed to be very difficult to do.
>>565200850and yet it's effortless for ky and faustand like 40% of the franchise for teleportation
>>565201398I think Ky and Faust are supposed to be extremely skilled with magic is what I mean.
>>565201456then again, so is the entire castso asuka isnt special at all and is actually worse than the rest of them, like i said
Daigo didn't kimeta...
>>565200616He was the best magic user in the previous patch, now he just shows up to kid's birthdays to pull rabbits out of hats.
I've seen /ggg/ ft10s that were more exciting than whatever the fuck that just was
Blanka having dragon install is a fucking mistake.
Black Power prevails again as the myth of the asian god gamer is shattered once more
>>565202679him getting normal dash oki after throw midscreen is a fucking mistake
Why didn't Daigo just throwloop him?
>>565184401old GG games feel like they lack impact
>>565203823Xturd was unwatchable, and not just because of the hideous lighting
Mendokusei otaku wagyu rai.... TAIRANTO REIBO
endoksayootakuaYUMMYYYY!!!
IM A CLOWN OF FATE
In memoriamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO38IFrs9wU
>>565204595This is Daigo's legacyHe did one cool thing one time, and forever before and after it's been people going "OH MY GOOOOOOD DAAAIIIGOOOO SAMMMAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA" whenever he does any standard shit anybody could do.
>>565203823I don't think normal counterhit stop was ever as huge as in Strive, minus Danger Time shaking the whole UImade those that could confirm look even more superhumanI'd say no screenwide COUNTER!, much farther viewport, and independent lighting contributed to clarity
What are we going to do now that fighting games as a genre were killed today?
>>565205614Goichi won his set tho
