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Hopebringer edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Mass Effect, Might and Magic, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Solasta, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, Ultima, Underrail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
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>Thread Question
Are owlcat games too verbose?
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>>565126089
Holy shit what game is this?
It's rare for a game to convey such a masterful story without WORDS WORDS WORDS
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>>565126089
No, cRPGs should be very verbose. They should be written like books are.
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How do we solve the /crpgg/ literacy crisis?
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Do you prefer WOTR or Rouge Trader? Which one is more replayable for you?
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>>565126089
>TQ
They are but its wrong to think of it as a problem of words words words.

The problem is most of the words are meaningless fluff or are unnecessary elaboration.

That's why there's constant roasting and trolling about complaining over the verbosity, including in the OP's image parodying the red-lining. If the writers can't write well they should be succinct, if they can write well they should be verbose.
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Owlcat has cultivated the trad schizo chud waifu incel audience so why havent they given us a goth mommy(22 years old) tomboy big titty Asian gf?
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>>565126712
The decision to take no action—to choose "we don't"—is not a sign of laziness, but rather a strategic, deliberate choice based on an assessment of risk and resources. In many scenarios, jumping into action immediately is impulsive and dangerous, potentially wasting valuable energy on a solution that is either untested or unnecessary. By choosing not to act, we retain our flexibility and avoid the "sunk cost fallacy," ensuring we do not pour resources into a path that may lead to a dead end.
Furthermore, inaction can often be the most responsible decision when the consequences of acting are unknown or potentially catastrophic. Acting prematurely, especially in complex situations, can cause unintended side effects that are harder to fix than the original problem. Waiting allows us to gather more data and ensure that, if we do eventually act, our efforts are precise, effective, and avoid the chaotic, detrimental impacts of hurried intervention.
Finally, "we don't" frees up our limited capacity to focus on higher-priority, higher-impact initiatives that actually align with our core goals. Rather than acting for the sake of appearances, we refuse to adopt a strategy that wastes time and money. This conscious choice to decline a specific plan demonstrates discipline and a commitment to quality over quantity, ensuring we only invest in initiatives that provide a guaranteed, positive return.
>/crpgg/ be like: wow this is so much better than "we don't", look at how many more words there are
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFr3QGAGemI
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Stop lusting after evil women.
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every single screenshot of wotr and rt is purple
why is owlkek so bad at enviromental design?
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>>565121468
I have some weird fomo?-like autism where I try to preserve every bit of my playthrough. So I screenshot literally (yes, literally) every single sentence in a game, in addition to gameplay moments and fucking with photomode if it's present. It's particularly bad in c/aRPGs since they have a lot of dialogues, needless to say.

Steam screenshot browser is getting buggy and slow when loading even thumbnails previews of them with so many screenshots. I waited like 20 minutes for it to load fucking skyrim screenshots to put them into pic related, but steam clearly refuses to load them at all now. And once already I had to move to a different folder all ~20k toddrim screenshots I had so those are only new ones and it looks I will have to move them again.

I don't do anything with those screenshots really, they just exists. Rarely even bother sending some of them to steam profile, which is private anyway.
I guess I can provide screenshot of any moment/dialogue from any game I played, provided I dig through thousands of screenshots.

It was more dangerous since autism started to manifest in recordings as well, but I managed to reign it somewhat in this regard. I was running out of disc space rapidly with recordings and apparently it's bad to constantly record games.
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>>565126986
I bet you can't even understand what the LLM spat out for you
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>>565127564
That you can't is very telling about the people championing Owlcat's writing as good literature
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>>565127564
There are a lot of words, it's gotta be complicated and thus good!
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>>565127654
People aren’t championing it as good literature, they’re making fun of you for being intimidated by paragraphs.
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>>565126089
>too verbose
I remembered they asked something similar in one of their surveys and I wrote that, as an avid reader, I found the games not talkative enough. That I wanted more dialogues, more exchanges, more stories to listen to and so on.
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The characters limit on 4chan is 2000, it should only take you a minute and 30 seconds to read a post MAXIMUM, or else you legitimately read below a 5th grade level.
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>>565127890
>The characters limit on 4chan is 2000,
I wish it was larger
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>>565127123
Anon... you have 30 fucking thousand screenshots from a single fucking game. If you were to record your playthorughs in 480p it would probably take less space on your disk.

I had the same(kinda) autism where i would be sure if i chose that specific dialogue option or did that specific thing so i was cosntantly taking ss' as well. But i managed to get of that retarded habit.

You can never go back on those 30k ss and select your favs. So stop fucking taking that many ss from now on.
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>>565127890
I wish we remained on 8chud when 4chan was hacked, that site had much larger char limit, the ability to upload 4 images and IDs
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>>565127828
No one's intimidated by paragraphs, its being bored at one's time being wasted on unnecessary writing.

But if your english is so poor that verbosity for its own sake looks good to you then maybe that's why you accept the lengthy owlcat text so readily.
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>>565127021
No can do

I still like to imagine that the canonical end for my iconoclast run is lord captain trying to stop Chorda on footfall, only to end up defeated and raped by her.
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Why is it always present
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>>565128378
It's a western dev thing
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>>565128343
Why do nobles have such trash hair styles? Jesus christ
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>>565127828
>oh, you don't like eating dogshit? Sorry it intimidates you so much
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>>565128475
>western
owlcat are eastern euros and asian porn is at minimum 50% cuckshit
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>>565128845
>owlcat are eastern euros
still western
>and asian porn
yes, they mostly keep it to porn, unlike western devs
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>>565128983
>yes, they mostly keep it to porn, unlike western devs
That's a good laugh right there.
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>>565128343
Chorda was awesome. Can RT dynasties merge through marriage? Imagine a full dogma Valancius and Chorda offspring.
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>>565128983
>Russia
>western
no, bro
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I somehow missed out on "true love" cheevo despite romancing Kibellah. Was this because i was an iconokek?
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western crpgs popularized the word "cuckoldry"
it was rarely used before that
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>>565129484
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>>565129503
Ackshually, everyone just called that NTR but then culture wars happened and now that's everyone's problem.
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>>565129484
No that's not the reason
Kibellah is a bit tricky. Getting her proper ending is difficult
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>>565129484
You failed to max out her personal flags. She has two. Synchronicity and Taint.
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I’ve always found owlcat games to be pretty dry. It’s fucking baffling seeing people complain about them being too flowery or verbose. It’s barely above the bare minimum.
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>>565129104
It kinda defeats the point of being an explorer if one family has two Warrants of Trade.
Will we get a Votann in Dark Heresy?
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>>565130729
>Need to max out Kibellah's taint
Wow!
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>>565129484
Stupid bitch
I flew the ship into the sun as a punishment
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>>565130935
Bait used to be believable
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>>565131236
bait like that is typically fine to ignore
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I know pure rogues are a meme in any game but the Swashbuckler subclass in BG3 is actually pretty fun. Granted it's still better if you multiclass but monoclass still holds it's own.
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>>565132439
>let's make a melee oriented rogue
>and give them no extra attack
>let's make a melee oriented bard
>give them extra attack and full spellcasting capabilities on top of it with access to some of the best spells in the game
Bards are such faggot class
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I'm going to play a duo in Icewind Dale EE, I've not played the game before

My friend is going to be a dwarven defender, I'm debating what I wanna use. My first thought and probably the best one is a cleric/mage since I've always wanted to run one, but part of me wants to try a no magic team with either a thief kit or a fighter/thief maybe but I'm not sure how horrible it'll be in the long run. Im quite familiar with infinity engine and baldurs gate so I feel like I could probably deal with it, but I'm slightly worried about having no access to magical healing making rests like 40 day affairs. Paladin sounds kinda cool too and gives some healing, but I think i probably want more damage. I've never played any of the goofy tri class multi classes either and am a bit interested in that too since it'd level at an ok rate since we will only have two characters. Any thoughts on what I should use? Just want something kinda weird and fun mostly and not accidentally make it a slog
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>>565132679
pure cleric would probably be OP in a duo run but not sure how easy you want it to be
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>>565126089
>Are owlcat games too verbose?
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>>565128826
It’s more like refusing to eat dogshit not because it’s dogshit, but because you don’t like plates.
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>>565126712
Stop paying writers per word
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>>565133096
In this metaphor you're essentially saying all writing is bad regardless of its quality while arguing that its bad to complain about its quantity.

Should the takeaway be that games have no story at all?
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Best class for a ME Trilogy run? Will romance Tali.
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>>565133587
doesn't matter matter, your playthrough is already trash
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>>565133587
Soldier or Infiltrator. People will say Memguard but honestly I find it hard to buy Shepard as a biotic since outside of a singe cutscene in the final DLC of the trilogy he never uses Biotics.
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>>565133587
Sent
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>>565133710
>matter matter
uh oh the roastoid is seething
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>>565133587
my last time through I played Soldier because my memory of the game was that I wish I had just had access to all the guns

It was pretty good but I walked away thinking Adept would be the most fun
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>>565133302
I’m saying regardless of the quality of the meal your actual issue is that you just don’t like the medium
You’d be happy to have your dogshit served on the floor
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>>565133587
I've always played soldier malesheps and biotic or infiltrator femsheps, and in the end I feel soldier just fits the narrative better overall since all the best companions fill the gaps well enough.
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>>565134032
Verbosity isn't a medium
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I'm no longer following this nerd argument but you both sound like nerds
Shut up and post waifus
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>>565133587
I'm basing this off Insanity difficulty. Soldier is old reliable across all 3 games, they nerfed adrenaline rush in ME3 but its still good. Vanguard is insanely fun in ME2 but they ruined it in ME3 despite a lot of people enjoying the braindead spam it became. Infiltrator with snipers is one of my favourites, if you grab the mod that lets you have bonus powers from the beginning you can do some fun shenanigans with tac cloak into flare and one shot the map, otherwise going invisible and one shotting everything is always fun. Adept sucks dick in ME2 and isn't fun. I never tried sentinel so I can't give you any advice there.
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>>565134032
You don’t like six paragraphs to say someone has seen combat, a fact that will never be relevant again?
Heh, guess you just hate video games and writing
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>>565134763
sentinel is the allrounder tank spec. you can kill everyone and nobody can kill you.
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>>565134964
I really don't like this timeline where youtubers make 40 minute long videos to "analyze" a stupid fucking obvious thing
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I want a male quarian its not fair
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>>565134763
>people enjoying the braindead spam it became
Charge+Nova is fun for like an hour but yeah then it just becomes boring.
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>>565133587
For Tali synergy Soldier is a real good choice. Good for stylistic balance with her. Consistent power across all three games and Soldier actually is great for working alongside tech companions and helping with tech explosions in ME3 thanks to Ammo power priming and Amplification upgrade Concussive Shot. One of my full trilogy Insanity runs was Soldier romancing Tali.
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>>565128559
It helps to hide all the TUBEs. See this one where sidecut reveals them.
>>565129104
It does feel like overlap as >>565130950 points out.
But I think conflict between two houses can lead to really schizoid arrangements.
In case of my headcanon:
>Iconoclast Lord captain tries to step in on footfall
>Chorda takes interest on him, decides to take him up as project. Not whole into brain-eating thing since he's noble, young and not bad-looking
>iconoclast loses battle since he never trusted Vladym and gets betrayed by Jae (who was salty that he decided to go with Yrliet)
>RT gets captured, raped and tortured, and eventually breaks as he has to watch Chorda tear down everythin he built
>The result is that there is offically two houses, two protectorates, but because rogue trader is a personal consort (read: bedchamber slave) to Chorda, they are practically same house
>Having completly subservient house is still useful, von valancius will essentially be made to do all the dirty work for Chorda - serve as meatshields in space and ground combat, their palnets can be used as landfills, most of talented subjects and resources can be covertly drained to improve the mistress protectorate, as known heretics they can be used to take the blame for all sort of misdeeds...
>And eventually once protectorate is drained dry by this relationship, the heir Chorda and von valancius made (raised to be just as hateful, xenophobic psychopath as his/hers mother) can be sent out to seek out new planets without wasting Chorda writ
The process could be described as anglerfish marriage, but in interstellar political sense
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>>565135137
which timeline do you like?
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Argenta should have been black and romanceable.
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>>565136474
I like the timeline where youtube wasn't heavily monetized and every video didn't thank a sponsor
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>>565136401
What happens to Yrliet in this scenario
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>>565136757
How do you expect people to make anything other than those dogshit video essays if they can't get paid
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>>565134763
Sentinel was a lot of fun in Andromeda where you weren't limited to the most boring powers.
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>>565132679
Cleric/Thief is a pretty cool Multiclass actually. You can backstab with clubs and quarterstaves. Sadly you don’t have the godly backstabbing with Staff of Striking or Staff of the Ram like in BG2. But there is a +5 Club I believe. There’s lots a shenanigans you can do with thieving and sanctuary, and maximized Righteous Magic backstabs are fun. Mage/Thief or Fighter/Mage/Thief would also work well. You’d just be leaning on potions for healing. But that’s usually fine. If you’re okay save-scumming you could forego thief entirely. Find traps spell and sacrificial low level summons can take care of floor traps, and knock spell can do locks, but trapped containers are a pain. You kinda just have to eat those without a thief. And although eating some damage is whatever, save or die stuff gets annoying.
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>>565126089
>Are owlcat games too verbose?
I love seeing anon's edits, so yes.
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>>565128378
it's a crpg thing
frankly i'm tired of this cuckshit
at least you don't get cucked in JRPGs
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>>565138223
Isn't Tifa a massive whore?
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>>565138479
no what
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>>565138479
Aerith is a professional prostitute
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>>565138986
Haven't browsed FFVII threads lately? There's a schizo that keeps shitposting about her being a whore. It's very reminiscent of the kind of shitposting you see in crpg threads honestly
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>>565138223
>at least you don't get cucked in JRPGs
Because you rarely actually have romance in them, like actual proper romance. Ranking up to 10 intimacy doesn't really count.
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>>565139145
What do you think happens in these games?
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>>565139091
>cuckschizos
shes the childhood best friend love interest soft one, Aertih is the flirty one
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Why no JCRPGs?
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>>565139250
>shes the childhood best friend love interest soft one
When has that ever stopped cuckschizos?
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>>565139329
What makes it different?
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>>565139659
Your romance options don't try to fuck half your party
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>>565139329
They never got popularized. Closest is Japanese story driven dungeon crawlers of which there are quite a few.
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>>565139329
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>>565139085
A 2 gil prostitute
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>>565139446
trve.. but japs will literally bomb a building if their waifu does something they don't like
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is the turn based mode in pillars 1 doo-doo?
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>>565139329
Fire Emblem, even has romance
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>>565136401
Sanest 40k fan
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>>565139723
Japan. Famously not into NTR…
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>>565140173
Is this one of those Labyrinth sequels?
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>>565139091
My theory is that tumblr femcels have invaded those threads. They're insane about Cloud being the true love of whichever girl they self insert as
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>>565140317
Labyrinth of Galleria, yeah.
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Best characters to bring to Act 3 for the story?
Not Yrliet or Idira.
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>>565140942
I really should get around playing the rest, I only played Refrain and I've in a DRPG mood.
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>>565140852
lol no, it's just the typical waifufag war, Cloud is the self insert of all the men and they fight each other to see which girl is better between Asuka and Rei I mean Aerith and Tifa
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>>565141002
Argenta, Jimmy
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>>565141002
Do Abelard a favour and don't bring him. Others should be okay.
>No Idira
Argenta getting offhandedly exploded is funny though.
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>>565141002
i left casia on the ship and immediately regretted it, she caries my party
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>>565140852
>tumblr femcels
>self insert to date Cloud
Why are you so retarded. FF7 is 30 something years old and so are the fans, female fans did not just discover it
and he's right >>565141075
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>>565140852
Yeah man 4chan would have no cuckposting without brigading
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>>565141161
Idira got kicked off the ship after the drunk demon incident
I kind of regret it desu but I’ll use her if I do another playthrough
Abelard will get benched though. Either to bring Heinrix or Jae
>>565141350
Yeah my party is disturbingly reliant on Cassia, chick is fucking broken
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>>565141002
Argenta
Hmm Heinrix I guess
Kibellah
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we need a /crpgg/ game where you gather clues to identify the femcels in your ranks
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>>565141717
Jae has better story content in Cumrag than Heinrix
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Jae psyop
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The Emperor is on our side
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We need a dev to step up and make a harem CRPG for once, to balance this cuck shit
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>>565141002
Jimmy, he would at least be able to talk to achileas
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>>565142167
I was working on something kinda like this
it was all girls and yuri though but it was too hard so i gave up
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We need a dev to make an all cuck crpg so cuckschizos get bored and we can actually talk about the game
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Stay back, crew. I will solo Cumrag. Abelard, prepare my dino nuggies and apple juice for when I return
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>>565142167
Mass Effect?
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>>565142013
What have I done to earn such ire, shereen
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>>565142680
No that's just multiple sperate romance options. Not a harem.
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>>565142626
RT and Yrliet going to Cumrag alone is a nice couples getaway
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>>565143084
Oh ok harem is where they all know about each other
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>>565140173
I played a relatively fun eroge called "av director life" where you film yourself fucking a college girl to pay off a ridiculous debt, then out of nowhere she says "I have a bf" and this nigger's like "lol lets hide in the closet and watch her bf fuck her," so I just cancelled the scene. then later on, he 180s like "lets fuck her at his apartment, then drug him during dinner another day and fuck her on the table beside him." the whore will mever quit jav or break up with him either, and there's no secondary girl you can film for money instead. nips are messed up
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Sawyer was right
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need to cleanse my palate with some sawyer kino after playing all this owlslop
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>>565141410
As if the ff7 femcels didn't exist before ff7r, but yes dudes are also stupid about waifu wars so thanks for taking credit on behalf of men
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>>565144643
We desperately need more Sawyer kino
Is he even working on anything?
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>>565144310
...crpgs?
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>>565144643
The only thing Josh's company makes that sells is Big Bug Game. Everything he has a personal hand in is mediocre at best and fails to find an actual audience.
He's a bum. Your GOAT is washed.
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Sawyer can't direct a CRPG to save his company
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Sawyer is a hypocrite, you can meet your wife in Pillars
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Sawyer’s my friend and he’s reading these comments right now and I think you guys need to not be so mean
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>dos2 became popular
>sawyer adds exploding barrels in deadfire
>disco elysium becomes popular
>sawyer makes pentiment
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I am Sawyer and I'm a big gay retard and I hate you all and hope you die
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>>565145394
Play Pentiment
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>>565147870
wrong
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I am Tim Cain and I love chocolate and my husband
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>>565146145
This doesn’t work when Sawyer’s autistic historical detective game is one of the only successful releases they’ve had
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>>565148493
>Pentiment
>successful
This nigga's from Bizarro World.
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>>565126036
A few hours, but nothing like 30. Might be too long for one session but not by much
>pic unrelated
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>>565148664
Did it not get enough steam charts for you bro?
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I bet wyll want to get pegged by Karlach. He's suspiciously involved in her situation
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I keep finding keys for chests and doors I've already opened. I feel like I'm playing the game backwards
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>Sawyer was right
No one says this.
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IT'S UP!!!
https://youtu.be/NUivQJsuBgc
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>>565148938
>you can't use this accessible data that proves no one played it because it makes me sad
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Mishulin here. I like each and every one of you
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Swen here. I want to fuck lizards so bad, guys. You have no idea.
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>Sawyer was right
Many people are saying this.
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>>565148337
is it good?
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Avellone here i'd like to lick your pucci, /crpg/
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More love AveGODne
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>>565151836
Yeah. Good adventure game. Especially if you're a history nerd. Not a crpg though.
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>>565150029
I don’t read posts that don’t get at least four (you)s
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Olga here. I can't wait for you to recruit Laarthyr. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised!
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>>565152990
So you admit that it wasn't successful and no one played it?
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Tim Cain seems like a big fat phony
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>>565153397
>fem inquisitor, you've completed my romance route, however I can never betray my dead wife Olgaladriel, sorry. We can hold hands if you like
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>>565151836
Yes, extremely, though it's not a full blown crpg
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Should I give Laezel heavy armour feat?
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>>565153397
Where is my jimmy dancing scene you vodka soaked snow nigger?
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Literally zero social skills.
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>>565154827
The githyanki armor is medium.
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>>565154827
As a fighter she already has heavy armor proficiently. If you mean the heavy armor master feat then no it's useless.
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>spiders is dead
rip
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>>565155736
>As a fighter she already has heavy armor proficiently.
Does she? I could have sworn tooltip said "no heavy armour proficiency" when I hoverd over it
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>>565152248
>>565154656
ill look into it, thanks bros
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I feel like vomiting every time I see portraits from this game, they're so obviously shitty, low effort paintovers of real photos.
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>>565157267
Jaheira's nose looks bent and Aerie's eyes are at different angles
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>>565157267
Why do you post this like you're trying to farm twitter engagement
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>>565157267
Viconia still looks good
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>>565154372
Tim Cain still made FO, Arcanum, VtmB and ToEE. People also get old and lose their touch
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>>565151836
It’s pop history for atheismos. It tries to be intelligent and controversial but fails to be interesting. Just read a book or play a map painter if you like history
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The rockstar dev thing is really obnoxious. Unless it's a truly one man dev indie game it wasn't just Sawyer or Avellone or Tim Cain.
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>>565157267
sovless post
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>>565157267
zoomoid prefers AI slop
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Yrliet
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Yrliet is my favorite RT companion.
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Yrliet is also my favourite RT companion(not bait)
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>>565160640
>>565160769
>>565161119
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>>565160640
neurodivergent queen
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>>565157267
Aerie my beloved...
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>>565155736
Heavy Armor Master actually slaps
+1 strength and a permanent -3 damage from all physical damage. Throw on some of the Heavy armor that reduces damage by 2 and you’ll routinely take 0 damage. Throw a warding bond on for good measure
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>>565161742
[Sexecute Yrliet]
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[Nibble Yrliets yrs]
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Camellius Maximus
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There’s “fucking up” and there’s “fucking up so bad that you get everyone sent to Super Hell”
Why would you ever forgive Yrliet
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There's "fucking up" and there's "fucking up so bad you accidentally recruit men to be sent to die in the arena"
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>>565164384
Too much of a pussy to handle a bit of space elf torture?
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>>565164384
It would make me look like a hypocrite after forgiving Idira for summoning a demon on my ship, Marazhai raiding my capital, and Jae for making me deal with super hell (DMV edition).
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People only hate Yrliet because of peer pressure. If you all played the game without coming on here, you'd naturally forgive her because that's what the game leads you to do.
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just a crumb of sawyer kino ... please ...
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>>565166275
TXD
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I don't know about other people but being an unpleasant fuckup is what I thought worked with Yrliet
It's refreshing that she's not a tsundere waifu who gets cured by your dick or evil but in a sexy way that never harms you
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>>565163701
>that height difference
Is he standing on Abelard's shoulders?
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>>565126893
I play all games on the hardest difficulty at all times, so WotR's style of difficulty where you just have to prebuff your team and then debuff the enemy grew very old after only like 2 playthroughs. Owlcat thought difficulty meant just stacking numbers to absurd levels that don't really happen on tabletop, and once I realized this is not cleverness or intelligence, I'm just prebuffing and then beginning every encounter with debuffs, it's literally artificial difficulty, I just didn't have a third playthrough in me.

But with RT, where there is no prebuffing, I never felt like I was wasting time or that it was "fake" difficulty. Everything made sense, and my characters all did their rotations in combat.

RT is definitely the more fun game to actually play. Less tedium and less inflation.

>but bubble buff mod!
Yeah, this addresses one of the main issues with wotr and does make the experience more enjoyable, but it's also a fan made band-aid slapped over a major design flaw. That said, I'm happy that owlcat seems to agree and seems to have realized it, so their next game (RT) didn't have this issue. Owlcat deserves praise for generally listening to feedback, at least about some things.
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>>565166275
I forgave her because she's autistic and all her 'friends'
>Technically she has none
Are dead
The others need to get over themselves it could have been worse
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more games need heroines that gets cured by MC dick
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Digging into 40k lore and I'm sad to say that Tau battlesuits look really cool
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Jimmy and Argenta only set up that lynch mob to distract from their own serious mistakes
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the initiative system in RT annoys me, idk how a character with 200+ agi doesn't go first in every encounter. not sure if this is a thing with unfair difficulty
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>>565168296
The reason marinefags get so angry about tau is that they know their mechs are cooler
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>>565164384
I realised she got played. I had her whipped for good measure because stupid children must face some consequences of their action but she was more useful to me alive than dead. Gotta say I was surprised she took the lashing then never mentioned it again.
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>>565168557
She really doesn't mind the pain, but it will break your romance if you have one
She REALLY dislikes having to apologise and spills her spaghetti everywhere. But she isn't upset afterwards and the romance will continue.
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>>565168553
>genetic gandam slop
>cooler
Lmao no
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I hate how Yrliturd throws a tantrum and leaves your party forever just before entering Reaving Tempest's spire unless you pick the most servile option that says "y-yes my queen we will search for farseers whatever it takes, you have my word".
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>>565168684
I didnt romance her, I was holding hands with Cassia the whole game
>h-help me Lord Captain
Yrliet did still call off her big brothers and then she got Pasqal'd in the end. I felt like Pasqal's thing was more egregious desu, it almost felt like a betrayal. As a 40k noob I had no idea what he was talking about, turns out he is his own brand of fucking heretic and a complete nuisance.
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>>565169040
Doesn't she just end up waiting for you a short distance up the road?
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>>565168692
Jealous marinefag spotted
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>>565169082
Yeah that ending for Pasqal is genuinely bad. He's committing tech heresy, no doubt about it
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>>565169093
Idk? I think I read that she never rejoins you and even has a unique ending slides. May have been a bullshit.
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>>565169082
I typically like admech a lot and even I think Pasqal is way too much of a writer's pet.
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>>565169040
>this anon creates Drukhari Yrliets
Noice
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>>565168414
It's ok, I forgive them. I enjoy a good lynchmob
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>>565171157
It was nice of them to let Marazhai join the fun.
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Bart, buddy, are you suggesting I spy on my own citizens?
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>>565168692
That's not a Gundam.
That would be a jobber MS if anything.
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>accidentally triggered gale's romance somehow
Motherfucker, how?
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>>565172218
Oh, ok, nevermind. The stargazing was platonic apparently. Could have fooled me
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>>565172218
hate this nigga
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wtf is a gibberling or xvart anyways? you practically have to genocide them in classic BG but I don't think I've ever seen them even referenced in anything else
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>>565172218
We went from companions like Ajantis to......... this
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>>565172218
Gale is an autism skill check
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She's wife.
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>>565171413
Minister Jaethal is pure kino
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>>565173890
I was thinking Ekun but I might make it Jaethal just so she shows up in the hall and not the tavern
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>>565172604
How do you pronounce "xvart"?
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>>565175871
"Xvart".
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tfw no female xvart romance
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>Darven winks playfully
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gross
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>>565175871
Like fart with xv at the front
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>>565176773
I wish he came back in WOTR
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>>565177292
Me on the right
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>>565177292
you just know they romanced cam
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>>565177292
the 1e pic is wild
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>>565162769
The problem is the opportunity cost because every class only gets 4-5 feats total so there's generally a better pick, especially since the meta is nuking every encounter which results in 0 damage taken. It is a really fun feat for flavour though, and the earlier you stack DR the stronger it is.
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>>565176773
I leveled up from this and I saved and tried to see what a single level of Monk would give me. God, my AC jumped from 44 to 51. It's really tempting but I won't do it
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>>565140165
It gets even worse for ye
>>565136887
She usually hangs back in fights, supporting her elantach from shadows... but in the cramped space of adeptus amasecus, she had no other option but to take his side
>She was captured alive as well, and was punished alongside her elantach; both were stripped naked, whipped and led through the corridors of Footfall so loyal subjects could heap all their hatred upon the couple
>She was later tortured by making her observe all the sexual abuse and torture that Incendia, Jae and Jocasta could heap on her soulmate, psychic connection amplifying every sear and violation
>as a finishing touch, she was surgically altered to make it look like she had been servitorized - and she was made to meet her elantach
>By that point Chorda had poisoned his mind with lies that Yrliet never loved him and their relationship had been only a sadistic game of denial for her
>At the end of ensuing rape, when her elantach is finally cumming into her womb (made scorched and barren by torturous sterilization process), the psychic suppression is lifted, and the deep connection of souls between her and her elantach resumes
>The understanding that he is nothing more than exactly what Yrliet feared him to be - weak, cowardly and lustful monkeigh finally and irreversibly breaks young von Valancius, making him Incendia's slave forever
I haven't decided what happens afterward to Yrliet, but have two ideas:
>Her soulstone got taken by Chorda, and she was made to serve too. Her first mission being infiltration and destruction of Janus, which iconoclast trader had made into peaceful society shared betwen humans and eldar. She took into job with psychotic glee
or
>She was actually servitorized, as part of great and baroque ceremony. Her final sight in the world being watching Incendia have tantric sex with her elantach, above the massive gun systems that were in the process of raining death upon previously mentioned Janus
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>>565179475
Nigga you need to start writing fanfiction instead of spewing your humiliation fantasies here.
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Am I missing anything from not having all the lore items in the Tenebrous Depths? I'm 3 bosses deep and I never had all the items for any of them, I want to fight Rovagug's spawn
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>>565179475
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>>565126089
Most items in Pathfinder could really have used a bit MORE text. Basic descriptions for all the generic items, and slightly more complicated descriptions for the named magic items. Most of them have absolutely nothing.
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>>565129503
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>>565181045
Rude
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>>565179475
Xenos and humans can't interbreed
Which means the sterilization isn't just unnecessary but also cruel
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>>565181045
based Horatio
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Eldar gf who was raised by humans and thinks she's a human
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Eldar Harlequin who nurses a traumatized human who had his entire planet slaughtered by Drukhari and underwent the most horrifoc tortures at the ripe age of 16 for the lols and eventually falls in love with him.
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>>565182290
Why
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>>565181816
Drowned in the toilet as a baby
If survives killed later
Eldar are actually really dangerous especially when not raised with proper precautions
As children they're taught to put up walls in their mind to keep away slanesh, if they wouldn't they're no better than the average human witch
Except a xenos which is worse and also actually more powerful than the average human psyker
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>>565182539
This anon knows his lore
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>>565182539
She would have been taught to place her faith in the Emperor, and this would shield her
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>>565182796
She'd be a light snack for slanesh
Probably kills herself for being a filthy xenos, self-hated must be off the charts lol
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>>565182941
>I am NOT a filthy xenos!
>I just have pointier ears than usual but I know in my heart that I am a pure human and the Emperor loves me!
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>>565164384
Because they're (literal) simps
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>>565181045
I wave this flag to bring out the owlcat fans
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>>565183781
Gets looked by the inquisition, innocence proves nothing

>>565183905
They're so blinded by 'eldar girlfriend' they can't see the bright red warning signs and live in delulu land 24/7 rent free
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>>565156313
https://gameinformer.com/2026/04/28/report-steelrising-studio-spiders-shutting-down-just-six-weeks-after-the-launch-of
>couldn't find a buyer

Bleak.
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>>565182516
Wtf the mon-keigh can't read??!
>for the lols
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>>565182516
Her pet grynx died yesterday and she needs a new pet, something small and pathetic she can feed fish to
An what who collects humans like other people collect beanie babies
>'Look I found this metal mon'keigh I call him Carl'
>'please let me go home'
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>>565184116
Crazy they survived so long making niche moderately successful indie jank only to get killed because their publisher funnelled all their money into a dogshit racing game that flopped.
Not even a chance they could've recovered with no marketing budget and an unfinished early release.
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>>565179949
I may be wrong, but I believe you can fight the Spawn no matter what as long as you make it to the end. You miss out on fighting the Spawn + Xelliren and the "True Ending" though which also drops a cloak. You could probably just use Bag of Tricks to cheat the lore items in.
https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Beneath_the_Stolen_Lands_(Quest)
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>>565179949
Did your PC almost melt going through the giant elementals area?
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>>565167848
He knows how to use the terrain to his advantage
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gonna play pillars but dont know whether to play sneakman or punchman
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>>565187220
Cipher
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>>565187220
The not!halfling race as the sneak god cleric
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>>565187336
>>565187650
prob just gonna go island aumaua with 4 guns
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>>565167848
Yrliet is sitting and manlet trader is standing up
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Drukhari gf romance arc:
>starts as a humiliation ritual where she cockblocks and cucks you to feed on your mental agony
>you get the choice to betray her for some big gain or stick by her and gain nothing
>if you choose the latter she appears to be moved by that because in Commorragh everyone constantly screws each other over and you didn't even if it was the logical thing to do
>starts warming up to you, even has sex with you
>some time later she's the one who betrays you, your budding relationship was a ruse
>you get the chance to forgive her
>she realises you genuinely love her despite everything she is like no one else ever will
>this time she falls for you for real
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I liked Malice's deldar secretary/gf. She seemed really stressed out and probably needed a smoke break.
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>>565190246
I don't think that's a girl
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>>565190329
Pretty sure it was described as female but maybe I'm misremembering
I think I can see a hint of tit
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>>565190173
>unironic cuckoldry and humiliation ritual
eldar fans would enjoy this
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>>565182516
it's a prank bro
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Exodite gf who is just pretty normal and doesn't terrorize you or play mean pranks, just wants you to help her milk the dinosaur and till the fields.
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>>565190548
even the theater kids in 40k are grim dark
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>>565190329
It's an eldar - there is no difference
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>>565190548
That's a buttplug
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>>565191457
What kind of buttplugs do you use mate?
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>>565191575
Normal three-pronged ones
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>>565191457
do not take a closer look at eldar weapons, architecture and icons
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>>565191717
>RT gifts yrliet a corsair ship of her own
>Y with a heart because I Love Yrliet
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>>565191841
>Rogue Trader gives a heart
>Yrliet: I can't accept that, flying under someone else flag is bad taste
It Is interesting how the game doesn't give us Yrliet's and Marazhai's official symbols/Runes
A bit sad
I guess it just shows that even if you romance them there are some things you a mon'keigh will never get
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Sawing off Yrliet’s feet with a chainsaw!
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>>565191421
I know you wish, but no, they still gotta plap each other to make babies
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>>565192767
+1 TooMonKeigh
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The Jester, chuckling extravagantly, gripped the shaft of his runic spear. "Twas merely a gag." he said, smiling sardonically. "A jest." He guffawed. The macabreness of the whole scene left a lasting impression on those sorry few, a blood red twilight before the coming dawn.
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Necron gf who may or may not have the Flayer's curse
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>>565193150
You think sister Argenta wakes up in fear because there's a male and female yenos now and they could breed?
Rogue Trader finds 'Spay and neuter your pets' pamphlets everywhere
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The eternal debate is finally over, here is the definition of CRPGs.
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>>565193150
What does that have to do with me? They're getting anally raped either way
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>>565193850
I don’t need to see everything that pops up on your reddit and twitter feeds man
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>>565193850
>deus ex
it's not a custom character though
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>>565193850
>custom character/party stat progression
>tactical, rules-driven gameplay
>Deus Ex
I get why people suck this game off, but it kind of undermines the point.
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>>565193850
I hope Nigel Farage deports The Angry Armenian back to Iran.
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The grandmasters rod is so OP what were they even thinking?
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>>565195354
t. weeb
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Which relic from Arodens shield is worth picking?
The amulet and belt looks really strong but is there a secret mechanic and/or detail I'm missing about the ring?
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>>565193850
AcademicAgenta, TheDistributist, SargonOfAkkad, PaxTube and GoldenOne owe me sex
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I wanna smooch her.
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>>565195717
You get it so late it hardly matters
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wtf I thought New Vegas was a based chud game??
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>>565196192
This but replace Pax and Gold with Morgoth's review and JaredTaylor I like my men older
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>>565196192
>>565196319
what the actual fuck
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>>565196216
It helps a ton for many different act 5 encounters and you can go get it as soon as act 5 starts
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What kind of pranks would a Harlequin gf play on her mon-keigh?
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>>565196097
The belt is disgusting. Spell turning that I think doesn’t stop ally spells. Amulet equally as good if you’re a blaster. The ring is mostly just good if you want more rage charges for demons.
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>>565196192
>AcademicAgenta
Zoroastrian Persian chud
>TheDistributist
Catholic Kraut chud
>SargonOfAkkad
Atheist Angloid chud
>PaxTube
Catholic Shitalian chud
>GoldenOne
Pagan Sweidistani chud
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>>565129484
>>565130371
>>565130729
>>565131092
You're all retarded.

There's literally only one decision that actually matters in Kibellah's romance. When you're on a date at the capital you have to be decisive. Either tell her to worship you or tell her to reject the dogma.

You will get the worst ending if you tell her to figure it out herself.
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>>565196887
>AA
>Chud
He's literally a comrade now, you fool
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>>565197024
Sensible Centrisim is 20D chess infiltration ruse, trust the great plan
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What crpg would BAP enjoy?
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>>565197105
>Sensible Centrisim
He stopped being a sensible centrist many moons ago, you rascal, he's a sensible center leftist now!
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>>565197217
He's a sex pest so Larian
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which crpg dolly has the best WAP?
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Keith Woods and Nicholas Fuentes are playing Expeditions Rome irl
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Intense gnome. Would.
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>>565194012
Raping men in the ass is gay
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>>565197271
Apparently he couldn't get into Darklands back in the day but the sex pest bit fits.
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>>565193841
>Xenos pamphlets circulate in response
>IT'S THE BIRTHRATES IT'S THE BIRTHRATES IT'S THE BIRTHRATES
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>>565196209
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>>565129484
see the image
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>>565197471
Not according to the Romans.
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>>565196779
Yeah the belt looks amazing giving a +5 sacred boost otherwise not available and the 10+ damage is insane
But I ended up going with the amulet since the massive aoe damage and dc increase + damage dice is really good
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>>565197969
>Marazhai live-streaming his hunts in the Emperorchurch lower deck bay
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>>565191841
This is the ranger who owns the ship btw
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>>565198181
Biel-tan M-mommy... please end my bloodline
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>>565198181
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>>565198181
The chad Amalynn vs the Virgin Yrliet
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>twitter celebs
neck yourself
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i still never recruited the drukhari companion because i genuinely can't find a reason why my rt would. same reason I always kill zevran, like no i'm not going to recruit a guy who just tried to kill me
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>>565199513
It was poorly done. They should have given the "tried to kill you" role to his sister, with Marazhai being relatively neutral towards you
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What would an actual good female Eldar x male human romance look like, that's not total waifuism but not retarded like Yrliet's
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>>565196271
>See Euronymous. Stab him in the face. He says "ouch" & starts to run. I stab him again. He starts fighting back. After 16 more stabs in his back his body explodes.
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>>565201127
Haha anon is an elf-fucker!
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>>565198725
She's quite cute
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>>565167958
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>get to the room in the engima where you have to loot the energy sources to get the zombies to stop spawning
>cant loot the containers
What now?
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>>565201127
It doesn't exist.
Female eldar universally find human men disgusting and repulsive, which is true. They'd never consider one as even a friend, let alone a romantic partner. People harp on about Yrliet being too frigid and cold, but her entire romance is an absurd scretch of lore and characterisation. The fact that she even considers male RT a person is too much to believe.

In fact, I do believe that Yrliet should have been male too. Male eldar and female human romances are simply superior - and it's lore accurate that a powerful female like rogue trader would be exclusively interested in eldar males. The game already works well in that main male human romantic interest (Jimmy) is just easily discardable stepping stone for actually passionate m!eldar x f!human relationship, but they should have went all in on that.
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sex
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>>565204395
did you mutilate your body yet, or are you only pretending to be a woman? If the latter you can still be saved. Just stop it
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>>565204637
sex
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>>565203583
I never understood this retarded train of reasoning. Culture, language, longevity, experience, and everything else aside, both human and eldar are sentients capable of higher reason and communication. That is more than enough to justify a friendship, mutual appreciation, or even a romance between certain characters. Individuals exist after all
Ignoring the rest of the schizo jumble about eldar/human pairings
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>>565204981
>human
>capable of higher reason and communication
not in 40k
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>>565204981
It's an elffag who exaggarates the Eldar view of humans in lore yet only applies it to human men, even tho GW writes the genders as egalitarian with minimal differences
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>>565201127
Talk to a AI elf bot already
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>>565204395
>>565204778
keep posting, it enrages some faggot here for some reason
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>>565204981
It's an elaborate troll sounding like Noldorfag, don't pay attention to it. I agree with you that connections probably would exist. Beyond species and even speech, humans love making connections with other beings, most people really like their pets and see it as part of the family, like they'll go and hug their dog during a cry and the dog will go and try to pull you out of your sad moods in some cases. Doesn't mean that you want to fuck the dog outside of a handful of people practicing bestiality. And you must also realise just how horny humans are at a baseline. Most other animals are not that obsessed, but we go into oestrus 12 times a year where many other mammals once or twice, so we are a relatively insane species in that regard.

All that to say, I think a genuine friendship and affection could exist but getting it up or getting it moist for a human would probably not be on the table safe for a couple freaks.
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>>565205994
>humans love making connections with other beings
>>565205127
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>>565204981
>a friendship, mutual appreciation, or even a romance between certain characters
Can you name any reasons why an eldar female would be interested in a human man? I bet you can't. There is nothing that even absurdly high-ranking one like rogue trader could offer that an eldar man couldn't.
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It cannot be overstated how tired I am of hearing about your eldar gf schizobabble
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>>565206336
this
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sex
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>>565203583
While I don't care for space elves
I hope DLC 4 is a romancable fem Eldar that puts out just to mindbreak you noldotranny
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>>565206336
Same, same. That's why making Yrliet a woman was a mistake. It gave incels hope where they shouldn't have been none.
If games included only eldar bf's (like they should have), the discussion would be on much higher level.
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Elf male x Human female should be enforced and propagated on a state level, while elf female x human male should be banned, portrayal of which is punishable by death and scrubbed from all forms of media, books containing it burned, games/movies digitally purged and owners of it hunted down and killed, collectively erased from the human mind. In the future neural theraphy should be performed on children so they can't even for the thought of such a thing.
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>>565205994
The races physically resemble one another so physical attraction between the two would be a given, but as to a full romance, only select individual cases would be the reality given other differences. You can interact with eldar in game, they are quite similar to humans in many regards
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>>565204778
Why aren't there sexy flirty slutty brown pirate women in CRPGs?
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>>565207128
players can't handle them
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>>565203583
>that main male human romantic interest (Jimmy) is just easily discardable stepping stone for actually passionate m!eldar x f!human relationship
This hurts me as a jimmycel and a human bean both.
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>>565207128
Same reason there aren't any cute yet stern and sharp-tongued asian women in games
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>>565203583
>(Jimmy) is just easily discardable stepping stone for actually passionate m!eldar x f!human relationship
Larry
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>>565206487
why does your aveline look weird?
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>>565207549
different face texture
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elf men are for dwarf men
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Sorry marasisters, I couldn't justify it.
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>>565126089
Bought expeditions rome recently im gonna start it once i beat code vain what am i in for when it comes to expeditions rome ?
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Who let the noldorfag out?
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>>565209278
>uses yrliet to kill him
lol bet the ship pisses you off
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>>565207507
Soon enough. I pray he will mindbreak all the incels in this general forever.
>>565207375
Jimmy's arc in Comorragh is perfect set up for proper ntr betrayal scenario
>Jimmy is too stupid to see the trap coming and gets his RT gf captured by enemies, because he's a stupid monkey against superior strategists
>In Comorragh he gets sealed in an airtight cuckbox while deldar torture, rape and infest his love with worms
>Over the entire act, he's completly impotent and powerless to break out, and lord captain can only get him back just before the end, when she has already done all the actual work towards escape herself
It's a perfect chance for femcel RT to realize how worthless he, and all human men by extension, are, and strike an actually romantic relationship with an eldar male. It's a shame you aren't allowed to rub the humiliation in more yourself, too.

And that is also why Yrliet should've been male. You see, as great as Marazhai is, he comes with a baggage of being slightly too edgy - which is fine, he's only killing human men to get hard, but some women don't like stuff that extreme.

Male Yrliet would give an option to cuck Jimmy with a more moral eldar, a ranger who has that stoic charisma that human men can only mimic. Someone who can give her the emotional support and superior dickings that get her through the ordeal, without the baggage of being your enemy. (Sure, he did betray RT, but a female human should know better than to nag when she's lucky that an eldar man as much as looks at her).
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>>565210103
What ship? She won initiative and one shot him.
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blue = good
red = bad
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>>565210391
High effort bait, anon. Grats.

>>565210103
It seems to make some people very angry idgi. It's just dollies.
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I'm gonna do it!
I'm gonna play Pillars 2!
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>>565210391
>we are in the realm of rapists so I must support rape
odd logic here
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>>565207128
jae is right there and she's shit
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>>565210391
I agree 100%!
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>>565210391
>least mentally ill eldarfag
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da idol
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>>565211273
Unlike you I respect other cultures.
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>>565209652
Chudcelcore
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>>565209652
huge brown milkers
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Honestly I liked Marazhai, he was exactly what you would expect. I was like oh yeah, you'll be getting in the cage during warp jumps and he was just like ok np baby :) sometimes he gets a little uppity and all you have to do is tell him to shut the fuck up and he complies. Meanwhile Yrilet literally will not stop jobbing, calling me monkey, and she stabbed me in the back despite everything. Maybe the Dark Eldar were right
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>>565210901
The alternate universe in which they share trauma bonding sessions as corsairs and Yrliet pops out little mini marazhais
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Roastoids trying to pretend their husbando is any better than Yrliet will never not be funny. The truth is they should both die
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>>565214123
Take them with you, fuck up their ending slides and enjoy the thought of them finding their calling as the clowns they already are
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I just want DLC 4 to be a cool Eldar that is competent like Larry is. Marazhai is a meme villain and Yrliet is mentally retarded
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how do femcel cope with the fact that they cant give their romance children?
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>>565207643
based
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>>565214817
Don't know what you mean
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>>565214817
you just bring in a stud, then you can both be pregnant at the same time
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>>565214817
Bold of you to assume most femcels want children, but also, the drukhari do weird scifi magic shit all the time, so who's to say Marazhai can't pay a haemonclulus to create an unholy hybrid child or put the RT's soul in a deldar body
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>>565214817
They can if they're Lannfags, also
>modern women wanting to have kids even in a video game
lol
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imagine being a voidborn serf and believing the nobility to be gods among men, and then seeing the RT in person and she's a tiny and emaciated looking witch and her advisor does all the speaking while she just stands there looking weak and pathetic
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>>565216390
They worship bones on a chair.



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