Vibe modeling soon? edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>565063815
I'm working on visual effects right now.
>>565159451kys pedo
>All the artists that have been feeding Anthropic mountains money to generate code when anthropic invests it in art generation
>>565159451
>>565159142The future is so bright bros. Blender with built in auto modelling.
>>565159451what games do hebes develop
blender bros...
luckcels vs skillchads
>>565159562PFTTHAHAHAHA ART KEKS BTFO
>>565159517revenue ceiling for the left: 100krevenues ceiling for the right: 20million
>>565159754party time!!
>>565159754aang no.... sick effect!
>his game has a revenue ceiling
>>565159517>left has>an unfinished spread sheet>clearly wasted hundreds of hours on hocus pocus trash like "audience personas" and "marketing funnel">right has>a working prototype>an S-tier concept "battle royale + fishing?" waiting in the wings to make him a billion dollars>putting more effort into his craft than his hygieneclassic Orange Kid vs Apple Kid
>>565159538
what is that site that shows genre mixes that are not used on steam
>>565159754looks like achemickal
>>565160523googs all of your games fit the left side more than the right
>>565160765but theres no games on the left sidethat's you
my game will sell better than mmo98 AND be higher rated.
>>565160913you charged money for an achievement because you think you are le auteur but in actuality you are just a greedy jew
>ask grok and chatgpt to write a 1st person controller in gdscript>they give identical wrong answers
>>565161405>ask claude>oneshots it perfectly
>>565161405Any gdscript they were trained on was likely just incidental. They're probably just pulling some garbage from a /r/eddit post that was in their training data.
>>565159517>players first, profit followsyeah left guy definitely doesn't believe in that
>>565159142before you go into schizo mode, first understand what being a corporate sponsor even meanshttps://fund.blender.org/
>>565161204everything about Social Interaction Trainer was marketing/trolling/social experiment.the fact you're still talking about it a decade later is just proof of it's excellence
>>565161405gpt gave me a good third person camera controller
How the fuck did they do SH's rusty flesh look.
>>565161932>i was only pretending to be retarded!
gogem hates gaben because hes better at jewing
>>565162349fuck off back to discord
>>565162251
>>565161932that's the excuse you gave back then it sucked then and it sucks now
>>565162543*hope this helps. def get some photos to blend in.https://textures.spriters-resource.com/playstation_2/silenthill3/asset/386735/
>>565162543>>565162729How does this help him create textures like that? Only a pro would look at that and know what to do.
>>565159595hairbrush games, primarily.
>>565161405for elon being the richest man his ai is so fucking bad its hilarious
>>565162524which discord u cunt? i'm not in any faggot
>>565144121no, break constraints. disregard limitations by any means necessary.
>>565162901>but HOW!?!?!?!
>>565163006mfs say shit like this then line up to get vaxxed
>>565159142>>565157481>>565158009>some AI company is giving money to blender >this needs to go in the OP of the amateur game dev general>this calls for multiple chimpout reactionsWhy. Can you explain why? Are you able to explain why?
>>565161862It's called basic human empathy. Red goat right guys won't understand. t. left guy
>>565162970It's the best free model by far. And it's a chat bot that specializes in summarizing content from web searches, if you're using free chat bots to program you're ngmi.
>>565163158HAHAHAHA ITS SO OVER FOR YOU YOU CAN'T STOP IT NOW THEIR TALONS ARE IN
>>565162901he can get inspired, get analyzing, get recreating. think 'that looks like they blended in a photo of meat' 'that looks like they blended in a photo of a dirty toilet'
>>565163134how would a punk statement like that lead to conformity
>>565162327what's retarded about it?it's good marketing because it injects controversyit's great trolling because it's completely on the moral depravity of "achievement hunters" to make it mean anything.... any normal person would just not engageand it's a solid social experiment because it would take just one "heroic" achievement hunter to release the methodology on how to unlock the achievement to undermine it. (which to my knowledge they never did so guess there's no heroes go figure)
>>565159517Observe as the slop hound attempts to vaguely mimic the actual human masters of game marketing and comes woefully short. These slop pictures are also nonsensical slop. Not because AI is bad, but because the "prompt engineer" behind these pictures knows literally nothing about game development or marketing.
Are you supposed to use backface culling when doing 256poly?I was playing with the 256poly and one 64x64 8-color texture challenge and found it really hard with BFC on
>>565163378dis nigguh has a toilet fetish
>>565162729>>565162729Yeah, I'm missing something crucial. There's folds. Stains. Like leather and pale meat and rust and mold as one object.
>>565163158>Why. Can you explain why? Are you able to explain why?>>565163328>HAHAHAHA ITS SO OVER FOR YOU So no. The answer is no. Anytime something happens involving AI you come running with it to agdg to bother gamedevs about it because you think it's some kind of gotcha or a big deal to us or something. Find some friends. Find a new hobby. You will never be a game developer.
>>565163612Do you even know how to paint?
>>565163194left guys are giga autists who don't know how to empathize at all thoughever
>>565162692i always find it curious that asking for money is what really rankles the hackles of you losers who spout "jew jew" when money is just fake meaningless bullshit numbers.of course in retrospect an even better payment method for it would have been a humiliation ritual like a photograph of them doing something to get it but i kinda doubt you'd be mad about that a decade later. it'd be cooler but objectovele worse on all fronts.
I like using AI
>>565159517both of these are terrible
>>565159517>profitable launch = make a livingAh yes every game developer has these notes on our wall.
I like getting used by Anonymous
>>565164058
incremental games are so fucking easy to make wtf did this dumb nigger marnix really take 100 days to make that?
>>565163592>his mind goes to fetishes immediatelyprojecting lol
>>565164262can you show your incremental game to the rest of the class?
>>565163854On what level?
>>565164218write a poem about nodevs in the style of dr suess
>>565164471my dog ate my incremental game
>>565164058>>565164226sakura...
>>565163158Blender is the most popular modeling software for indie game developers obviously and OP should have mentioned that anthropic not only donated money to blender but also donated money to Autodesk Fusion. This is part of a broader push to integrate its Claude AI, via the Model Context Protocol, into the creative technology stack. They are launching connectors for several tools aimed at enhancing 3D modeling and animationIts a unironically a big deal for indie games since it signals anthropic is interested in greater 3d art tools.
>>565164471the feature is 10 mins old i need more time
>'claude, remove all the bugs from my game'>claude deletes the whole game
>>565161204Desperate attempt to change the topic after he shut you down with that simple observation. The "hero" in your slop picture there literally doesn't even have a videogame loljust like you.You keep forgetting the actual goal of everyone here is to makevideogames. And the reason you have forgotten this is because you yourself gave up on gamedev years ago. You are just an AI golem now. As soulless and out of touch as the slop you post.
>>565164525Kill Nodevs. Behead Nodevs. Roundhouse kick a Nodev into the concrete. Slam dunk a Bocchi into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Nodevs. Defecate in a Nodev parasite tanks. Launch Nodevs into the Sun. Stir fry Nodevs in a wok. Toss Nodevs into active volcanoes. Urinate on Nodev brain food. Judo throw Nodevs into a wood chipper. Twist Nodev heads off. Report Nodevs to the AI Warriors. Karate chop Nodevs in half. Curb stomp Intellect Devourers. Trap Nodevs in quicksand. Crush Nodevs in the trash compactor. Liquefy Nodevs in a vat of acid. EAT Nodevs. Dissect Nodevs. Exterminate Nodevs in the gas chamber. Stomp Nodev skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Nodevs in the oven. Lobotomize Nodevs. Stuff Nodev heads in the garbage disposal. Drown Nodevs in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Nodevs with Magic. Kick old Boomer Nodevs down the stairs. Feed Nodevs to other Nodevs. Slice Nodevs with a Silver Sword.
>>565164665They can't use claude to replace artists its only supposed to replace programmers!
>>565161405>>ask grok and chatgpt to write a 1st person controller in gdscript>>they give identical wrong answers
>>565164161That's the best part about his collection of slop. He paid money to create dozens of these and both the "hero" and the "villain" in all of them are retarded. For the 200 ideological themes he crams into each one of these, maybe 2 of them are valid points (that he simply steals from us or AI knows enough to include) and the other 198 are completely worthless noise. It's hilarious how the slopper doesn't comprehend this, because why would he? AI slop is only potent to a very specific kind of mentally deficient demographic, which doesn't include actual gamedevs. We can derive literally nothing of value from these slop pictures.
>>5651645251 crab 2 crabs3 crabs newcrabsthis one has no gamethis one has no nameay! whatalotto crabs there aresay! What a lot of fish there are.some are sad and some are madand all of them are very very bad
>they actually looked at the aislop in detail instead of recognizing its aislop and ignoring it
>>565164665>Its a unironically a big deal for indie gamesNo it isn't.Blender announced they would integrate AI tools years ago. This "news" has nothing to do with that though. The slopper (You?) doesn't even know what they're shoving in our face anymore. It's so desperate and pathetic... why not just make a game? Then maybe you can catch a clue as to what is actually a "big deal" for us as gamedevs. ffs
I actually tend to agree with the AIslop propaganda posters.
>>565164665>Blender is the most popular modeling software for indie game developers obviously and OP should have mentioned that anthropic not only donated money to blender but also donated money to Autodesk Fusion. >This is part of a broader push to integrate its Claude AI, via the Model Context Protocol, into the creative technology stack. >They are launching connectors for several tools aimed at enhancing 3D modeling and animation>Its a unironically a big deal for indie games since it signals anthropic is interested in greater 3d art tools.
>>565165506he also forgot to mention its pretty useless like you cant just ask it to rig ur model for u
i really feel like making the dumbest, retardedst game i can think of and overcharging for it. something like just chucking balls of paint at a mountain.
>>565163378Blending photos in sounds like a good idea, but I'd prefer to take them myself if you don't mind.
>>565164262an incremental game that lasts 30 minutes apparently, lmao. doesnt even understand the genre.
>>565165506You've probably played several of my games without knowing assuming you play demo day games “ψ (｀∇´) ψI'm personally very excited for these tools. I honestly can't wait until I can automate my 3d workflow.
>>565159517This is funny af
>>565159517>right: what people that actually get results do
>>565165631the cope is getting more abstract kek
>>565166175>the cope is getting more abstract kek
>>565165945why do you guys act like cartoons don't frequently have stuff like this in the background
>>565159517>game loop>isn't a looploooooooolAttention to detail is one of those traits that every game developer has. You don't have it and the AI slop you post proves you don't have it. You will nevermake a videogame.
>>565165587fuck off pedo
>>565159517>>565160523>battle royale on a lake to catch the most fishhonestly the more i think about it the more im certain this is the next huge male fantasy slop
>>565166335Don't compare this trash to cartoons please. Cartoons are made by people who have brains and think about what they're creating. Not this literalSLOPWhat is the Genre for which the demand is increasing? No idea, because the retard depicted on the left literally doesn't even have a videogame. Nothing is clear in this "cartoon" because it's soulless SLOP. It's not meant to be understood because the HUMAN MIND doesn't create this kind of vapid noise.
>>565166612have you trooned out yet goggem
>op imagedoes this finally mean we'll get reinforcement learning powered auto rigging/weight painting/retopology tools for blender? if not this means nothing to me.
@grok how do i make a Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete style game
@grok how do i make a 公園いたずらシミュレータ style game
>>565159517Where can I buy a book like this? The one on the right is also an abomination with multiple bindings, one spiral and one plain in the middle.
>>565166716im a leftist
>>565167078How do you turn the page in the middle?
>>565167078SOVLOVL
>>565162543>>565162729Eh, closer. Maybe I should add, IDK, what else?Something around the joints? Some rotten meat filter?
>>565166396>>565167078>he's missing the forest for the treesNGMI
>>565167838It's actually good that you sloppers can't manage to make a videogame, you would just make slop like this and then get upset at the gamers for noticing it's slop. Which would actually be great entertainment for everyone else, but unfortunately we will never see it because you know... you can't make videogames.
>>565168038Not one single person noticed that my LD59 submission was 100% AI.
Why do people act like NSFW is a good way to make money? I went to f95 and clicked around and apparently a lot of good games are abandoned because the devs weren't able to make enough money to fund further development
>>565168920That's because no one even bothered to play it.
Killed by AI slop on LAUNCH DAYhttps://steamcommunity.com/app/590830/reviews/?browsefilter=toprated#scrollTop=0
>>56516901611 comments
>>565169097>When S&box is full of AI slop that you can't filter ᕙ( ᗒᗣᗕ )ᕗ>When steam is full of AI slop that you can't filter:3
>it works
>>565169410Judging by the reviews, the entire catalog of games in S&Box right now is AI slop. If the front page of steam was nothing but AI slop, steam would be dead. People are absolutely done with AI slop. All of the good will and patience of the general public has been worn out over this matter. Anti-slop CHADS just keep winning.
>>565168978People look at all the OnlyFans models and furries that make bank and think that will be them. Porn is probably more oversaturated than gaming at this point, especially since porn has been free for much longer.
AI sloppers are literally ruining everything they touch lmao it's so funny. I'm actually amazed at how far they have been able to push back the advancement of this tech by just making the world disgusted and exhausted with the slop.
How do you work on a game when your brother who is your caretaker suddenly insists on starting a garden and working on the car at the same time and forces you into working on both for enough time to "allow" you to call yourself tired because he insists he's even more tired-er than you are and daring to say those words is a grave sin that only invites an argument that you genuinely can't say anything against without worsening the volume at which he is speaking?Surely this is an extremely common event that agdg can relate to
>>565167594it's very silent hill looking! gross! I'd add depth and wrinkles at the join of the thigh and chest. I wouldn't go any 'noisier' than this, the balance is good.
is pogodev porting his new game to s&box
>>565169824The biggest gooners are always looking for new porn though - its NEVER enough for them. Porn is almost a consumable product unlike video games.
had a rough dev day.anyone else had a rough dev day?
>>565167594maybe an impression of a rib cage on the front of the torso or something. if you really wanna get fancy, use vertex color painting hooked up to the specular/roughness value to splat on some shininess in certain places for slime.
>>565170262I've been masturbating to the same 5 gifs for at least 7 years now, gooners are spoiled and I hate them and I hope they die.>>565170296Yeah I had a nodev day because the only fucking free time I've had these last 12 days is when I need to fucking sleep (>>565169973)
>>565170296No. I didnt open a code file in more than a month.
>>565170296I did yesterday. But we're so back today. I feel it. I think it. I dream it. I'm doing it.
>>565169973>your brother who is your caretaker Please tell me this is bait
>>565169097>>565169873>excuse me but... I don't want AI slop >TOO BAD LUDDITE AI WINS YOU LOSE >game flopsIt's literally a mind virus. Instead of listening to suggestions to mitigate the damage slop is doing to their game, they have a meltie about how AI is unstoppable.
>>565170296the cool thing i thought of implementing wasn't as immediately as cool as I thought it would be.
>>565169998I just kinda put rust over my initial texture I kinda want it to be a tad grosser tho>>565170413SHIT that's a good idea. But I don't really wanna go SLIMY.
>>565171298>Nooooo your family member CANT be your caretaker of your disabilityI mean someone's bound to say something to somebody for the first time, but I didn't expect it to be that.
>>565171302Valve saw these guys and said>Yeah lets give exclusive access to source 2 to them
>>565171432Shit now I feel saddddd
>>565171721it's not thatwhat disability?
I wish I had a team to to make progress with.
>>565172524I wish I made MORE progress
>>565159451>>565159565>>565159595>>565162902>>565160703kill yourself
>>565172524me and my tulpa child wives about to paint our bedsheets in white~
>>565164058>>565164226>>565164625>>565172524>>565172621>>565173448kill yourself
>>565173448
>>565169410Thats the best part eventually the AI slop will be too much to ignore by Steam but it'll be too late to undo
>>565159754Wat dis
>>565173475
>it doesn't work
I won't be able to finish my proggy today. Looks like it will have to wait until tomorrow.
Will I get a gorgoeus alt femboy latino gf (male) if I release a game about fighting robot monsters together with femboys and anime girls
when did you decide you would be one of the people shitting up the thread? was there a trigger? or did you just find yourself doing it without thinking, just slowly morphed into an annoying retard?
Uh oh meltie
>>565175365i blame my older sister for not raping me as a teen
>>565171302>pandoras box has been opened>therefore we are going to allow AI slop to destroy our game>it's going to GET YOU TOO! YOU CAN'T STOP ITAI slop has yet to get me. Or anyone I know really.Gamedevs continue to make games without AI, certainly without slop.Youtubers continue to make content without AI slop destroying their channels.Musicians continue to make music, no AI... the mind virus has a way of convincing people that everyone will be swept up in AI just like them. It's a lie. It's just another cult, where the cult members are insisting you will eventually join them and there's no stopping it or resisting it. And all the cult members say the same slogans. >you'll be left behind>it's too late, pandoras box has been openedYear after year. These people deserve to fail. That's why they are failing.
Only 20 games are making >$100 a week on S&Box
>>565173609>eventually the AI slop will be too much to ignore by SteamThat's not how it works. Good games will continue to be filtered by the userbase. AI slop games are not good games and so will continue to be buried, forever. AI slop will never overrun or take over any systems that are curated by users because PEOPLE are sick to death of slop. Only totally unmoderated systems can be destroyed by AI. Even really loose systems like youtube still have comment sections that say "THIS IS SLOP" and users are able to quickly discern from the shitty AI voice acting and slop imagery that they stumbled into a slop video. They click away immediately and the video loses placement. All curated systems destroy AI slop. It doesn't matter how much infinite AI slop is shoveled out, it's never going to change things. AI slop is dead. AI is officially a joke and everyone knows it except the cult members.
If your AI slop was worth playing I would have generated it myself
>>565175563many,MANY such cases
>>565176382>mow the lawnmow the lawn games are eternal. I made one too.
>>565163484None of it matters. It is a made up specification that has no real world relevance. Add a 100 polys and make the model look good.>>565171302>game flopsIt did over 1500 reviews in a day at $20 price point. You wish your flop sold like that.
>>565176389>claude, make this game not slop
>>565159517Eric Barone and Toby Fox on the left
>>565174156>>565174196>>565175420>>565175563>>565176678kill yourself
>>565176382Where is the money even made from? Like where does s&box make saod money to pay out? Also how much playtime do you need weekly to get say $500 a week?
>>565177305
>>565176382Something is clearly being left out here. Users might jot even be total playing in the weekly period but total people who have every played the game. I meed some hard numbers before I'd even consider risking buying this only to waste a year on a game that doesn't even net me $1
>>565177340>"Where's the pool from? How much is it?">I'd like to get more transparent about the pool in the future and show the figure somewhere. For now, while we're finding out feet, it's not public.>Garry's Mod's revenue is funding the development of s&box. So the fund is from Garry's Mod for now. Our hope is that one day s&box will be able to stand on its own two feet, and the fund will grow with its success.
>>565177340The company is paying.
>>565177126>It did over 1500 reviews in a day at $20 price point. You wish your flop sold like that.All of the reviews are "product received for free". And they're all negative. And half of them are people explaining they already had access to the game years ago.It's a flop. A massive SLOP FLOP. It's teaching all aspiring devs a good lesson about the dangers of slop.
>>565176382>tfw missed the opportunity of having a quality game up for shitbox launch I was about to start deving with it months ago but I ran into some bug/error and couldn't launch it and never bothered to look into what it was. I imagine you could have gotten some pretty good playtime if you had a game up there that stood out from the AI slop. >>565177454Most of those games are slop made in a couple weeks. It really shouldn't be that hard to compete in there but the playerbase dictates what succeeds so you gotta cater to them.
>>565176382Just finished researching. Funding isn't based off something like in game ads, it is completely arbitrarily decided and the money comes from, the devs previous game Garry's Mod......yeah this doesn't sound good. On Roblox funding came from stuff you sell in your game, microtransactions. This on the other hand relys on Garry's arbitrarily decided metrics and how much he will choose to give you based off said metrics. I don't like this one month you might just need an average of 20k users playing for 20 hours to get $1000 for the month. The following year you the same amount of users and playtime generate $100. Why even take a chance with this???
years ago when I was young and didn't even have a bank account yet, I made an interesting game mode for a source game over a weekend simply from wanting to, not greed, not any selfish reasons, and setup a donation link where donations went straight to paying the server fee for mepeople played, and donated to a free gamemode all on their own simply from me placing "if you want to help keep the server alive" in the chat infrequentlyhaving said that, despite not making any money from that, people donated quite a lot and the server stayed alivethere's no purpose for saying any of thisstop being so greedystop trying to replace your job with something you aren't passionate about
I'm feeling FOMO for S&Box. Finna get a job to get internet connection.
I do gamedev for therapeutic reasons.When I make progress I feel better.ALSO it's keeping me alive, because if I don't feel good about myself, my appetite leaves and it becomes hard for me to eat, and these depressive hunger-spirals can last for weeks, to the point that I passively lost 10 pounds in 5 days despite not even being particularly overweight.
>>565177786How did you and so many others have access to it prior to release? I vaguely recall access being kentioned here as if though it was Garry himself posting in the thread
>>565177960>I'm feeling FOMO for S&Box. Finna get a job to get internet connection.
>>565177126>It did over 1500 reviews in a day at $20 price point. You wish your flop sold like that.Nta but yeah except the problem for this is that this reduces the long term viability of this engine/game. If you filter between people who got it for (they are quite positive about it for obvious reasons) compared to people who paid a full 19.99 (sub 50% positive rating). This isn't a good sign for it and risks the entire engine just failing. People mess with it for a bit, leave, dont come back. Now youve got what 10k people who had access prerelease just goofing off in it screeching s&box is the future while people just go play on roblox instead lel
In 2015 valve promised Source 2 would be free for developers but now all the way in 2026 the only way to make a game with source 2 is to pay Garry Numale $20.
>>565177951>not greed, not any selfish reasonsI hope you're not suggesting that wanting to make money is greedy and selfish.
>>565178398NTA but it depends.I personally see money as a nice bonus to putting something I wanted to make into the world
>>565178382Any reason for this? Why him specifically?
>>565178398you mean implying? I didn't suggest anything, I talked about my own state of mind, money did not exist in my motivations
I'll be happy once I get to buy S&Box.
>>565177375kill yourself
>>565169097How do you fix it for people like this?
>>565178398It is! Did you know in anons pursuit of jot being greedy and selfish he goes to public libraries to gamedev and post on here? Yes he hogs the entire PC from open to close. Yes he takes the free cookies from the front desk and 20 coffee refills. What?! Nah anon isn't greedy or selfish, just look he is releasing his low quality game for free!
>his model aint making more than US$ 2k per dayare you even trying, bro?
>>565178781>lua more simpleReally? Maybe I should download Roblox then.
>>565178771
>>565178072You could get the access from their website but they nuked it like two weeks before launch if you hadn't used it actively. >>565178854I had missed this part about the monetization.. Fuck.
do you think he'll come back to teach us all his source knowledge
So we've learned something important.Use AI but don't disclose it, the luddites are only mad if they know what's in their slop.
>>565178672Gmod was the greatest advertisement ever made for source games so of course he has a lot of pull but the problem is Garry didn't actually do that much to earn his success. JBmod came before gmod and did most of the same shit (which is really just making it easy to use console commands). Garry just took the idea and got lucky by getting valve's endorsement and resources. Jbmod never got officially sanctioned by valve because it was built using the leaked hl2 beta build and valve was completely ass blasted about everything related to that to the point where they didn't allow jbmod on steam for decades.
>>565178986kill yourself
>>565178854Where do you see this?
>>565179446Garry had the idea of mapping designer tools to weapons, the rope gun changed everything
>>565179630https://sbox.game/metrics/skinsI dont know how to reach the metrics page from the home, tho. lmao
>>565178854>about $13.86 per unitSomething doesnt sound right here. I'm skeptical whether this will actually have gamers or if its just going to devolve to a bunch of gamedevs trying to game it lel
it’s like death, only a state in which the others are left and I said, But to believe it doesn’t matter and he said, That’s what’s so sad about anything: not only virginity, and I said, Why couldn’t it have been me and not her who is unvirgin and he said, That’s why that’s sad too; nothing is even worth the changing of it, and Shreve said if he’s got better sense than to chase after the little dirty sluts and I said Did you ever have a sister? Did you? Did you?
>>565179738nevermind, the metrics page can be reached from the footer
>>565179738It's at the bottom of the page.
>>565179576?
>>565179907kill yourself
>>565179750Why do you think this will not have gamers?No, the default player model isnt a reason.
GMOD TTT Server Community Drama back in the heckin' day.
>>565180051
>>565179907
>>565179339Miss that lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
If you're worried about failing or losing your passion, watch thishttps://youtu.be/Cd0rJTC7AJk
>>565180150kill yourself
>>565181297
think I'm about to scrap my game and restart it scoping down... again
>>565181832Good job for doing something.
>>565181569kill yourself
Blog post, don't read unless you're happy with your progress for today and don't have anything better to do.So the last few days I was benchmarking how off my predictions are by taking items from my to-do list and comparing how long it'll take me to finish them vs what my estimates were. And it turns out I'm faster than I predicted. I did in 2 days what I thought would take me 3.5 days. Pretty good, right? The problem is in the last 2 days I added 7 days' worth of items to my to-do list, like "make game icon" and "make trailer" and "allow player to forfeit quests" and "support for multi-page documents".So I don't know, there can't be an infinite number of items I could add to the list, right? I'm bound to run out eventually, right?The current estimate for the to-do items is 84 days, I estimate I'll run out of money in 127 days.I was hoping Steam would send me $100 this month but I got email from them telling me I'm a loser, so no bananas or other luxuries until I get some money from somewhere.
>>565171432Put some smoother textures where human anatomy is smooth (thighs, stomach) or give it hair or something. The dial is turned too much toward "chicken" right now
>>565183041Thats neat I didnt know you already had a money generating game, that or I forgot lel. I am curious, has this game been the reason why you've been neeting? Did it generates a lot?>progressZero. I have somehow not focused all that much on my game lately. Maybe once like 2 days ago making stuff for the UI that may be scrapped.
How are my fellow wagie devs holding up?
>>565184609Yeah I have game income but the tail's been getting thinner every month for years and I'll run out of money in 4-5 months.>ZeroSo why are you reading my blogposts? Work work!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP4cD35Xn5EAlso, shit! I just realized there's nothing about sound and music in my to-do list.
You seriously need to relax.
Eric, I come from the future, listen to me now, this is important for your legacy and your company legacyYou need to step backward and become executive chairmanMake Cole Medeiros CEO, give him stock and 300k/year salaryPoach Jesse Willard, make him CTO, give him stock and 250k/year salaryPromote Jared Flores to Lead Programmer, he is ultra talented, will be projected as replacement CTO when Jesse retireYou need to fire Jade, she is underperforming, you need to poach Community Manager talent from fields of mistria teamYou need to fire Casey Warrington, (he turned she) is underperformingAnd lastly, you need to be extra careful about Devin and ArthurGrow the ConcernedApe LLC company, hire talented HR first and then hire talented people, don't make the mistake like you did last time, hiring people without consulting to HR Consultant, you end up hiring mentally unstable lunatic like Arthur.Do everything in-house, don't do external partnershipBe better Eric, I come from the future, I'm trying to save you from doom and failure. The future counting on you Eric!
>"heres why my game didnt sell well">its never because the game is shithas any indie dev EVER admitted that their game was shit and thats why it was a failure?
>>565176382And there's probably hundreds if not thousands of them on there, idk about buying and learning this engine anymore.
>>565185945There are plenty of shit indie games that succeed. They know their slop is trash, they're just wondering why it's not the type of trash that still makes money.
Get this>a decklike roguebuilder
>>565185736Stop!!!! Don't tell him this!!!
>>565185945>$1,300 commission for the composer, KJ>composer of a game where you draw ropes around pixel animals that don't have any animationsi.. i..
I can't figure out how to do space flight physics.If I go full newtonian it feels like shit with weak thrust, but I want the newtonian coasting feeling. So then I think newtonian thrust but with diminishing return on velocity. That feels like the right balance for gameplay but it also feel shit and arbitrary.
>>565185945I wanna see gavin admit that he made a shit game
>>565185736>you end up hiring mentally unstable lunatic like Arthur.What's that supposed to mean!!!!
>>565185945If my game doesn’t do well, I’ll just go “Oh well.”
>>565186548priorities lmao
>>565186646Cuff bust dev? Dude felt so arrogant. Has he even posted any gamedev tip videos since the game released?
>>565186770Word on the street he's been making a new game, and will shadow drop it when it's done.
>>565185650Oh you had a nice tail for a long time? So you have tasted success, is there something preventing you from replicating that? Perhaps mental block or self sabotage?>So why are you reading my blogposts? Work work!1. Demoralization2. Unsure whether to go pixel art, hand drawn art, or 3D. My main experience when it comes to games is pixel art but I think I might be able to do an old style of 3D and pull it off but idk. I think all 3 can work but idk.3. Somehow time is moving fast even when I'm not doing a lot, idk what happened.4. I find your blog posts interesting.>I just realized there's nothing about sound and music in my to-do list.:(
>>565186693nice. if mine doesn't do well. at first I would probably feel spite for gamble/idleslop games that do well, but move on, and not make one of those... right.. yeah
It feels like Im close to reaching that moment where it all finally clicks and I get rich. But when? My game is at a standstill cause I have no idea what I should be doing despite the idea being straightforward.
ran out of tea so i just put a lemon coughdrop in some boiled water just kill me now
My AFRICAN game built on custom AFRICAN engine with OpenGL 1.2D racing & highway driving game with GTA IV physics.Flatout + BeamNG + GTA IV, but in 2D.What do you think about it?Steam page is ready and trailer is on youtube.Give feedback and show your steam page.Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmnpzOYB-bMSteam page: https://store.steampowered.com/app/4660070/Destructor2D/?utm_source=4ch
>>565187538>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4660070/Destructor2D/?utm_source=4ch>AI capsule artDont rape your game like this bro.
>>565187538early 2000s kino
>>565186770>Has he even posted any gamedev tip videos since the game released?lol no>>565186954I got a hunch that he just quit without a wordat least he seems to understand that there's nothing he could say to make up for what happened with cuffbust so it is better to say nothing
>>565187784What's wrong about AI capsule art? Artists make steam capsules for 300-500$. Do you think artist would make a better one?The game is not shipped yet so I could hire an artist but I think this would just waste $500.
>>565187538>Planned Release Date: 2028I'll be an old man by then fighting off robots. try release sooner
>>565188049Nigga, speak to anyone who knows anything about marketing, AI art is always poorly recieved.People see it and skip immediatley. You are better off going onto fiverr and paying 10 dollars for somthing. Or just making it a screenshot of the game with some text on top
>>565188049I'll do it for free if you post your steam dashboard right now
Drifting>>565188101>I'll be an old man by then fighting off robots. try release soonerIt's 2027 or 2028, but as Early Access. I am from /gedg/ and made custom game engine so it took me over 15 years to just get to this point. Still need some work to get to Steam next fest Demo and then Early access.
>you now remember when they tried to claim Underspace wasn't a flop
>>565188408Nice, I think this is the first time I see this game even though I post on /gedg/ too. Cool.
>>565188420Toby "Emission" Ferret has been real quiet ever since
>>565188049It would discourage me from buying your game, but I can't speak for the average person.
Carnage with a truck.>>565188273>Nigga, speak to anyone who knows anything about marketing, AI art is always poorly recieved.Maybe, but there was a recent indie game that sold very well and it had AI art. I don't remember the name.>People see it and skip immediatley. You are better off going onto fiverr and paying 10 dollars for somthing. Or just making it a screenshot of the game with some text on topI saw such capsule arts in other games and they looked bad and unprofessional, worse than AI capsules.You can still convince me but I am not ready to waste $500 with uncertainty if this will be worth the $500 in sales.>>565188335No, you're a hacker and you will hack my Steam from the screen.>>565188574I didn't post in on /gedg/ yet, I am waiting for new thread, the current has 300 posts.I am known on /gedg/ as the "african guy" that uses 20 year old computers and built engine that uses OpenGL 1.
>>565189095>20 year old computers and built engine that uses OpenGL 1Ah, I remember. This game probably runs everywhere then. Hope to see it on demo day too.
>>565175563>i blame my older sister for not raping me as a teendont you mean as a shota you portuguese freak?
>>565189640get out of me 'puter
would you consider yourself a band kid
Aggydaggy femboys and women owe me sex
got the whole squad laughing bro
>>565100317or basically>strong minds discuss the future>average minds discuss the past>weak minds discuss the presentaphantasia sure is a bitch, huh>>565185945that sure would be an informative video. "my game was bad and it did badly. roll credits"
I drink 3 cups of tea and 2 cups of coffee a day.You?
messing around with the Fixed Camera Thief-like this morning, not sure if it'll just be frustrating with how limiting the camera can be but I'll probably make a little level to test it out properly.with sound https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1777460017139092.mp4
>>565190671>Fixed Camera Thief-likeMetal Gear Solid?
>>565189095here is my concept for a capsule
>>565190805I've never played it so i wouldn't know
>>565190895The first one is really short, might give you some ideas if you're stuck.
>>565185945>Comment: The game looks low-effort/unpolished/un-fun, that's why it sold poorly, not your marketing strategy.>Response: This is probably the thing I least expected when releasing this video. Just from my point of view, I think the game looks great. It feels polished to me, and everyone else on our team, and I was really happy with the art I created for the game. However, it seems like many people don't seem to think the same, which I can understand. The presentation is just mostly a result of my pixel art style, which may not look the most "professional", but it's something I'm still proud of, but may not be everyone's cup of tea. A reason though I think many comments have mentioned that the game looks low-effort or un-fun is probably partially on my doing with the video itself. I don't think I did a great job showing the depth of the game in this video, and some of the many systems that truly make the game fun. It's a deck-builder game, so much of the fun comes from creating crazy builds, spending time in the shop, and progressing through unique difficulty levels and characters, all of which I failed to show in this single video. I can understand that on the surface it may seem like the game has no depth just from watching it, and that all you do is circle animals, but our team is very happy with how the game itself turned out, I just wish I showcased it a bit better in this video.
your game probably flopped because you failed to convince enough people to buy itmaybe... hmm...
>>565190895The second one is the greatest video game of all time, might give you some ideas if you suck.
>>565190851and another
>>565185736>Make Cole Medeiros CEO, give him stock and 300k/year salaryWhy? He just made the board game
Where can I market steam page (coming soon page) and youtube trailer?4chanreddit - you need account with karma to post anywhere, should I just buy used account?tiktok/ytshorts - short vertical videosinstagram ?youtube - more videos than trailer?twitter - will it work? it's a political forum, not gamingother places?
>>565187538how are you african if you have US$100 to waste on steam
>>565191574just use tiktok
>>565187538art stolen from gta too
>>565185945over $200 for that simple capsule artwhat the fuck?
>>565191946running an efficient business is a completely different skill than making video gamesmost indies are only reasonably skilled at the latter
>>565191946$20 per animal
>>565189095>but there was a recent indie game that sold very well and it had AI artthere's been a bunch people literally can't tell if you do the bare minimum to hide it
>>565191012That's the most basic danger of an hugbox.Do you remember that agdg onearm slot game that was sold for 15dolla?>but I thought my game was worth that>for a static game with one biome and maybe 1.30 hours of content
>>565191574put up fliers around town
>>565192228onearm slot game?One-armed bandit?I don't remember it being that expensive. It was actually kind of fun, I bought it and played it a fair bit.
>>565190671>unreallol
>>565192228let people fail, there is no other way for them to learn they need to learn to take this more seriouslyhugboxing is finewaste your timelearn your lessongive this pursuit more respect if you really want successstop doing stupid random shit if you actually want people to enjoy your gameit just doesn't workwhen will you learn to apply strategy to your actions
Doing photoshoot for item icons. >>565109774No digging, it's a magic hybrid exploration skinner hybrid box game.
>>565192308it launched at that, but dropped the price later
You should be able to pay an extra $100 to steam to get day one visibility again.
>>565192617slippery slope, $10,000 minimum upload fee
>>565192617>>565192682raise upload fee to 1000 and remove all previously released games that haven't made 1000 by 2027
>>565191397Sovl
>>565189472>This game probably runs everywhere then.The current minimum requirements:Windows XP256MB RAM128MB integrated GPUSingle core 1.5GHzMaybe I invested in optimizations too much.>Hope to see it on demo day too./agdg/ demo day? When is it and how to be there?>>565190851>>565191397Logo looks good but the capsule is too simple, I prefer the current AI capsule.>>565191580>how are you african if you have US$100 to waste on steamI have money from the government, family, savings. I saved money by not buying modern computers.You need to be a oligarch to be in hobby gamedev.
>>565192617make 2 pages for your game. twice the visibility. just rename it and alter the graphics a bit
>>565159517why did retards even read slop charts like this? the poster didn't even come up with the arguments himself.
>>565193448I really don't knowI automatically scroll past slop like that
>>565193059This game isnt enough to people buy it.
Pay me $100 to enter my store. Then pay some more in advertising outside of my store to prove it to me that I shouldn't actually shadowban your product on my store. You do this so you can earn the privilege of having 50% of your income be taken before you even see it in your bank account, delivered to you a month after you have "made" that money. You do this so you can sell your game at 75% below its actual market value because that's what I've conditioned my customer base to expect. You do this to have a 10% refund rate because I allow my customer base to pirate your product through refund fraud and do nothing about it.This is the best deal you can ever hope for, and you shouldn't ever think that things can be better. That's just the way it is. So pay up, dev cuck. I got yachts to buy.
>>565191742>just use tiktokOkay. Any tips? I need vertical videos? And short videos with action happening on them? Do I need to use some tags or something?I never used tiktok.>>565191859>art stolen from gta too?>>565191946>over $200 for that simple capsule artThis is what I am talking about. I could also spend $500 for capsule and what if it's worse than the AI capsule? You have no guaranties. You have to pay the artist even if you dislike the capsule.>>565192283>put up fliers around townAfrican grandpas are not my target audience.
>>565163469>Observe as the slop hound attempts to vaguely mimic the actual human masters of game marketing and comes woefully short.pretty rich of you zukjeet to seethe over someone spamming ai slop when you spam it yourself
and they think this will replace devs?
I used chatgpt to code a custom html wallpaper engine gooning wallpaper that plays both porn videos and images in a slideshow with audio reactive beat effects
>>565175563new nortubel lore dropped
>>565194243>African grandpas are not my target audience.put them up at universities
Aggydaggy what would you do if I made it big, would you start to hate me?
>>565194903maybe
>>565194903I already hate you
https://github.com/SeraphYuki/ragdolls-like-meI wrote most of this while drunk and its my birthday
>>565192682>>565192940nooooo, I love that us thirdies can compete with firsties with just $100
>>565192367>>565192228Since you guys seem to be the only people with any sense in this thread.Is it okay if I ask some dumb questions?How much of gameplay enjoyment is tied up with visual fidelity? I keep thinking "if my gameplay is good enough people wont care about the looks" but im not sure if im convinced anymore.Should I have just spent more time improving my art skills?
i just woke up so this thread is gonna nose dive pretty quickly i am like a pale horse but with schizo shitposters
>>565195929no turdie has ever made a good game so why should they be allowed on steam
Any successful game that has small scale but sold more than 10k copies?
This weekend I will be starting on the Brodyquest scene for /v/3. If you would like to submit your booths here is your template for this year. Alternatively, I will also be willing to accept cameos of your characters so long as you theme them around "forest". If you're interested these are due Saturday morning, so three days from now.
Name 1 successful game made by a third worlder
>>565196732snkrxvampire survivors
>>565196843undertale
>>565196843Flappy Bird
>>565197005That's fucking right. This is what we eurochads think of you america, or should i say... amerifat!
>when you have no money you don't work because lack of budget>when you have money you don't work because you already have money>when you want to make money you don't work because you don't know if it'll make money or you don't believe it'll make moneysummary: money is an absolute shitty goal when it comes to making anything happen. actually money is just power. if i have all the money and you want to build a house i can just decide to not pay you for that and that i'd rather pay you for sucking my dick. what will you do? you gonna suck my dick instead of building a home.money isn't a motivator, it's a demotivator, it's a power control tool to control other people, making them do what you want. because you own all the important resources that others need to survive. money is control.maybe a rich guy who truly cares about games will force others via money to make a good game, but as we all know rich guys just get fat and buy yachts, they don't want to take care of something
How do I get feedbacks for my game ideas without them getting stolen?
>>565197558bro there are games making 10 million dollars+ and nobody steals the idea (sadly, because i want more games like rimworld and kenshi)
>>565197558If you're afraid of a game idea being stolen it's most likely that you subconsciously know your skills are bad and you won't be able to execute it.
i think i figured out why i nodev recently. i have a specific idea in my head, related to the games i play, yet i don't really see a big picture. it's not worth working on it, i just have no "good idea" for it, just some mechanics at best.but my problem is, instead of just dropping the idea and looking for something different, i try to motivate myself to work on it, or to find ideas that could work with those mechanics. basically i need to let go. it's like trying to force a relationship. or being obsessed with inventing a new pizza instead of just dropping the idea that it has to be a pizza.basically i have to mentally move to new locations instead of desperately trying to squeeze something out of nothing.
devs try to approach gamedesign like: "pineapple is probably what sells well", or "tomato is what sells well", when in reality it's "pineapple pizza" or "tomato sauce with spaghetti".it's not about the ingredient, it's about the recipe.it's like trying to build a human with nothing but a heart, or nothing but a liver. it doesn't work on its own, it all just works as a whole, as a system.
>>565193625>This game isnt enough to people buy it.What does it lack, what should be added and improved?I made market research, there is a successful 2D racing game on Steam called "Ultimate Racing 2D" and a sequel for it. It has better graphics but worse physics and no highway.
>>565198194>>565198416Zip it, clown
>>565196843Helldivers 2
>>565198529what's your problem donkey, do you not like to think? are you from a black country?
>>565198619Sweden is the best place on earth because i live here. Unfortunately there's a bunch of stupid leftists and worthless brown people here too.
I have this idea to make a simple small game, sell it, then add more mechanics on top of it, then sell it again, then add even more mechanics on top of it, then sell it again.Will it work?Or selling 1 game as early access and slowly build it up from there is better?
>>565198812if my boss would tell me that's the plan, i'd tell him to pay me 100k upfront and i'll just do whatever he wants, but i wont to rev share.
>>565198713You made a retarded food analogy and said nothing of substance. The observations are shallow and are not anything people aren't already aware of so it's just a lot of pointless words instead of something insightful.
>>565195949I'm lmao 15dolla for onearmbandit anon>How much of gameplay enjoyment is tied up with visual fidelity? Sadly, a lot. Not with fidelity, but with how appealing it is. Consider, the first time someone will see your game is from a screenshot or a trailer. So your first barrier to get a player is to intrigue with what you see. Gameplay is primary, and "the only thing that counts" but if no one wants to even try your game, you lose before you even go into battle. >some games with shitty art have wide successDon't let survivorship bias blind you or give you an excuse to be lazy. You need every trick you can think of to succeed. If you think the art of your game is shitty, you need to fix it, somehow. >Should I have just spent more time improving my art skills?Consider that your art doesn't need to be 'good', just appealing to your userbase. Going retro is a way most people solve this problem, but you are the dev and your solution might be somewhere else entirely.
>>565159517you can tell a ricecel made this shitty ai sloppa
>>565199127i added more value to the thread than you.
>>565199565No you didn't
>>565199151Thank you, so just generally focus on a cohesive style that appeals to the audience?How forgiving are people about things like sound effects, music etc? Is it worth making sure I include them in every prototype?Last thing, do people care if the game has a proper menu, like with resolution options and things?
>>565199910can you show me your valuable posts?
>>565201019Every single post in this thread except yours are made by me.
>>565200842>so just generally focus on a cohesive style that appeals to the audience?It's a very big "just">How forgiving are people about things like sound effects, music etc? Is it worth making sure I include them in every prototype?Here, no. My first few demos were without any audio at all. Players are another story, you need to show them only the "complete package", their willingness to understand what work in progress means it's very little.>Last thingSame reply as audio. My game had no options or menu for maybe the first 3 dd I joined. Players won't accept it.
>>565201721why are you in this thread?
>>565202016to destroy your mind.
Ludstatus?
>>565202429at least you are honest.
somehow my ability to pick a game to play is equal to my ability to pick a game to make.
>>565202910why do you only generate ugly things and not something beautiful? if you made a hot big booty femboy advocating for ai use maybe you could sway me to stop being a luddite
>>565203759Here you go bud
>>565198765it is so funny to me that swedes created one of the top 3 places in the world to live and then ruined it with their own hands
u guys ever came up with a neat concept then thought to yourself>how the hell am I gonna program something like that...?I had a neat idea but it kinda goes beyond the scope of basic cookie-cutter Unity projects and now I'm feeling kinda lost
>>5652041071. Vanilla2. Hazelnut3. Dark chocolate4. Raspberry5. Strawberry6. Blueberry7. Chocolate8. Salted Caramel9. Pecan10. Pistachio
>>565204101all of it is the fault of this worthless kike politician in the 80s and the retarded worker class who voted for him. he got shot and killed by an unknown hero but the damage had already been done.
>>565204617is that hopoo?
>>565198619i only played helldivers 1 but my god it was one of the worst fucking games i ever playedhow did they get a major deal with sony
would you rather be a poor guy who figured out how to make good money.or would you rather be a rich guy who has no idea how to make money?
>>565205153well the president is a rich guy who has no idea how to make money right now
>>565205153there is no "figuring out how to make good money"the nature of the market is such that every lucrative way of making money will be overcrowded by competition very quickly.
>>565205346estrogenic post
>>565196769I don't understand the format. You just want screenshots and shit on that stand?What do you mean when you say cameos? Why forest? How can a character be themed "forest"?
best advice I can give you is Zig while BiteMe and Branno are Zagging
>>565205346ok, then:would you rather be a guy in a zombie apocalypse who found a giant mall?or would you rather be a guy in a zombie apocalypse who knows how to hunt?
>>565197343but you know you need money to be able to tell people to fuck off and do your own thingpoor artist larp only goes so far
>>565205454i don't play incremental games, i don't like them, they are boring and i don't need some dead game running on my second screen. so why would i make them?
>>565197343you win when you view making money like a game to be figured outthe same way you'd grind league of legends to learn how to hit master rank should be the way you treat making moneydon't even worry about getting rich, just learn how to maximize your money making skill, like grinding a 99 in runescapethis makes it fun, failure becomes less punishing because your goal isn't to seek profit any more, it's to learn the best strategies for making moneyif a game flops, who cares, lesson learned, new data point, just make another one based on the lessons you were capable of learning and attempt to improve your knowledgeapplying the scientific method to the pursuit of knowledge makes anything funor you can just make whatever you want and hope it blows up, it's up to youthe foundation is collecting information, the more data points the better
>>565198812Especially if you don't put marketing budget and shit in, it probably won't do very well at allpublish it on itch.io and see if you can get anyone to play it and if nobody plays it give up on it. That's just as good as publishing on steam and seeing it get 3 reviews.
>>565205570Mall.Because being a zombie isn't an option.
>>565205754the scientific method only applies when something happens under the same exact circumstances over and over again. and life is a complex system with constant change and not a science lab.
>>565198194I have the problem of my brain printing out too many ideas. I keep running into things that trigger new ideas and i have to write them down to get them out of my head. Some are more indepth than others but the problem is that I simply do not have the time to explore them all.
>>565205454incremental games are literally just RPGs for people with brain damage
>>565206138Sounds like you struggle with making decisions and that forcing decisions isn't a solution. Maybe your problem is that you don't have a functioning system to rank priorities.
>>565198812It could work. There's some devs doing okay on Steam by releasing a lot of similar games.
It's the apocalypse. Everyone died, most of the buildings are destroyed. You explore a forest and you find a small village that wasn't destroyed. It has all you need to live a modern life until you die (generators, water pumps etc.) - You walk into a their office building an find the last functioning computer on earth. You boot it and look which games are installed.You can choose 3 games that are installed on the computer, what's your choice?Also one of those games will delete itself after 6 months and you'll get one more choice then. Which one?
>>565198812im gonna make the most fudge coated behemoth game jam packed with insane features i am not making a cash grab even tho i like money.i am making liquid SOULi am tony stark ceo boss man saaryou cannot compete with me unless you go all out im sorry but i gotta dew it to em
>>565205454I think Branno's statement is sort of right about incremental being unexplored and most of the games are copying other incrementals and going too simplistic in their mechanics. But it's a bit funny that Branno is literally copying another incremental with his next game. It's like he's saying one thing and doing another.
>>565206909shut up retard
>>565205702>moneyBut in all seriousness both marnix and branno got memed because they thought they were better than the genre they are making. they thought it will be a sure win with low effort
>>565205438>You just want screenshots and shit on that stand? Yes theme the stand around your game.>What do you mean when you say cameos? If you don't want to take the time to make a full booth then you can just send me a PNG of your main character or an enemy or something and I'll hide it in the background to spot.>Why forest? That's our theme this year >How can a character be themed "forest"?Decorate them in camo or have them lurking behind a bush or something I don't know get creative with it
I still don't know what an incremental game is
>>565206909What the guys at the South Pole observatory play during their 6 month long night.https://youtu.be/CvLX3IFqGts?t=157
>>565207351number go up.spend number to make number go up more.i made a system in my game and it took like 20 mins its dumb easy
>>565207351perform basic actionacquire pointsspend points to perform basic action betterclick buttondo 1 damage to enemyenemy has 5 hpclick 4 more timesenemy defeatedgain 3 xpspend 1 xp to level up 3 timeseach level up increases click damage by 1 click button againdo 4 damage to enemyclick 1 more timeenemy defeatedgain 3 xplevel up 3 more timesclick buttondefeat enemy in one clicknew enemy appearsclick button.........999999 damage per click
>>565207351it's the game that employs progression with accelerating returns rather than diminishing returns.
Making lots of progress
how many of u guys broughted s&b box
trvthnvke: AI can make a better game without you than with you
>>565206365>Maybe your problem is that you don't have a functioning system to rank priorities.That sounds like ADHD which I have.
>>565208160you can't automate taste
>>565208287you can automate tests and iteration
>>565207927I see
mission
chaos is the enemy
>>565208287proof?
>>565208894im the only osx dev on agdg that's proof enough
>>565208986it's called macos now
>>565208039>s&b box>broughtedbut it's free anon. why would I buy it?
>>565209115Is 4chan recieving money from these bot posts at least?
.play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Jk7QMIvaM
to verify you previously assumed the truth is the greatest feeling
>>565208986doesnt that make you lgbt?
>>565207062it's easy to get overconfident because incrementals seem like such an easy thing to make, and in terms of code and development time they are easy but the design and balance is not unless you happen to have a mind that thrives in that sort of thing
>>565209585forgot image
Should I make a 3D game or a pixel art 2D one.
>>565209762based>>565209667truthnuke, the simpler a game is the more difficult it becomes to designthe secret is having an interesting narrativestorytellingbros will win
>>565209993Use S&Box
>>565210002but to have an interesting narrative you need to be a good storyteller
Steam has forced price-matching when as part of it's guidelines but does that include releases on other platforms like mobile?Like say I've got a game for $10 on Steam, then release it for free on Mobile
So let me see if I get this right: AI makes you a better dev and a better artist, is endorsed by the industry's top minds and top tools, and costs less than 4 Outback meals per month? Isn't that a little unfair to trans devs?
>>565210587It's not a problem.
>>565209993try both mediums to find out which one is better for you
>>565211084I would rather jump from a bridge than take you advice tranime spammer
>>565211084great advice, thank you bocchi, I love you!
>>565211084>>565211545kill yourself
anyone got those gifs or webms that were some like some battle royale RTS but with 2D anime maid sprites?
>>565210002>>565209667exactly, people who don't understand the genre think its just "number go up" whereas its really just a framework for mechanics-based narratives. see examples of not getting the actual appeal:>>565207818>>565207486>>565207825
>>565212615sounds something cris made
>>565209612is the 8 bit guy gay?>>565209168the x makes it sound cool
>>565211992this is how aggy was always ya newfriend this is a return to form
>>565212861it's literally number-go-upnumbers in incremental games don't make any sense in any narrative.
did you guys know that fagoon used to team up with pedophiles to post here with a proxy service?/fuck i wish i screencapped the threads where he blatantly asked real-life pedophiles for help because they're all gone now
>>565211992there are some nevedevs fagoon cocksuckers seething hard because they got filtered, even with all the available tools, including AI, that exist nowadays they can't do anything>poke all toads>wireworks>nuns and guns>wasteland bites>all of them 300+ reviewsdon't get demotivated, 2026 is being a great year for aggydaggy, besides all the seething and spammingremember, success breeds jealousyJLMG
>>565213023I will NOT bite your shiny metal ass
i cant even talk about some features in my game because its all right there.how was i the first one to get the ideas for some mechanics? i am like Prometheus
the paradox thing about modern culture is that supposedly everything exists and is oversaturated, yet i can't think of a game i want to play, a movie i want to watch or a song i want to listen to.maybe cause entertainment products are kinda consumer goods, once you consumed them you are kinda done with them. even game with replayability. and then people want something new.maybe the largest consumer base of modern entertainment is young people because they didn't consume everything yet and therefore they can just go through all the old things.also people have a specific taste. someone into war movies doesn't suddenly watch k-dramas if he's out of new war movies to watch.
>>565210732Maybe you should skin yourself alive, steam shill.
>>565214747you'd never say that to my face at the gym therefore it has no weight.
>>565210587just call the mobile game like GUNDAM MOBILE and the steam version to be GUNDAM ez work
Every schizo is hereWhy? It's a school day.
>>565215243Hey Orchid
>>565211084Nta but how do I approach it when I clearly lack skill? Thanks in advance Bocchi sis *hugs*
>>565185736>Arthurwht's the lore on arthur and devin?I thought arthur was a schizo but it seems like they were just on bad terms with each other. he seemed to have receipts, even tho he's probably a bpd demon
my birthday commit to github
>>5652156703D is easier because it's more forgiving and less work but 2D might be easier to start with because you only need paint and time, it's a tradeoff. Alternatively if you don't care about mixels you can render from 3D to 2D pixelart. Unless you need a game asap I would try 3D because it gives you more leverage in the long run.
>>565216057why doesnt steam eat the discount from their cut?example a game is 50% off so gaben takes 15% instead of his 30%
I should have married my first girlfriend had kids and worked regular jobsmy life turned out like shit and it's all the fault of following my dreams of being a gamedev
>>565216057>ever offering 95% offYou do realize a lot of steam users unironically believe the discount is provided by Gabe Newell and not the developers/publishers themselves right? Why even give a steep discount?Also indie devs keep running every opportunity into the ground. Seriously a discount on release? At the rate things are going I have to price my game higher just so the release day discount is really the pre price incresse value lel
Wait is over 300 reviews good?
>>565217018a 10% discount on release is smart
>>565217091if you mean significantly better than average, sure.if you mean top 3% then no.
>>565217018>Why even give a steep discount?Ask cumball lmao
If I don't find a new job by mid May I may end up homeless. It's been 5 months of burning through savings to pay bills and rent. Every place I apply to I just get a rejection email or straight up ghosted. The gamedev dream is over.
>>565216792You are right Bocchi sis :( maybe I'm just scared of all the hrdles of learning 3D.
>>565216842why would they?
>>565217091Most actual indie devs consider 100+ reviews good
>>565217261should've made an incremental game
>>565217228QRD?did it sell badly?i thought his game had high potential he should have made more levels instead of shitposting i guess
>>565217209I thought the bare minimum for an alert (is it just email?) is 15%? Why even offer 10%?>>565217091If I got 300 reviews on my $14.99 game, then yes.
>>565217438He had to give away 15k copies of it to a key reselling site and it's almost always on sale for 70% off.
>>565216929I do think about that as well. I wish I were capable of normoid life and wageslaving. It would be so easy to go through life like that.
>>565217772>He had to give away 15k copieswhat do you mean "had to"?
there are no good ideas, just good combinations of ideas.you can make a masterpiece without a single new/unique idea. it's just all about how you combine them, if they fit together.need for speed underground 2 = all copied ideas from real street racing, but they fit well togethercommand & conquer = all ideas copied from real life things, yet they work nicely together (e.g. the tesla coil, which even blatantly copies the creators name)are you creative enough to put a tesla coil into a war game? it's not about inventing the tesla coil, it's about putting it into a new context.
https://antangsoftware.itch.io/perish-parade/devlog/1504560/v0114-290426-new-updatePerish Parade DD68 build is up ahead of schedule, would appreciate some feedback on the reworked dungeon traversal. There is also a new battle theme that plays when you get ambushed
>>565217091for a solo dev? yeah. extremely good. very rare get
>>565217772fucking hell
>>565217228>inb4 the majority of his of sales were at 1.99Wew why even do that? 500 reviews at 1.99 is less revenue than a $14.99 game with 67 reviews.
>>565216792>>565213437>>565211084>>565165587
>>565217945Yeah it's no wonder why he came crawling back here. Maybe he should have made a game with actual soul.
welfare office simulator
>>565214946>>565217364I genuinely doubt a south east asian that gets paid less than 5 cents a day to make posts venerating gabencunt has enough money for a gym membership.
>>565217772That means they paid less then 70% off. For them to sell it at 70% off and still profit means Crumble sold each key at greater than 70% off. Lol! Though anyone that does buy it that way doesnt get counted to the steam reviews. So technically he actually still made good money as the 500+ reviews are only people who paid for the game on steam.
>>565218063*walks into your office*
>>565216842That isn't.... the case?
>>565217894>that picWhy can't I have a wife who looks like this!!?!?!?! Bocchi sisters Im gonna cry hold me!!!!! *wahhhhhhhhh*it will be in demo day right? have you set up the steam page for it yet?
>>565218197No no, the game itself is on steam for 70% off, not on key sites.
i have an internal conflict.unity is an extremely stable engine and the reason why playing games made in unity is such a pleasure, because even if something fails in C#, the game doesn't immediately crash. also it makes it very easy to debug code. and ofc the engine itself gets thousands of bugfixes per year (bugs you never notice, yet they get fixed anyways).yet, unreal engine has all those free assets, way better tutorial channels doing advanced stuff (seems to attract a specific kind of dev) and some really useful features out of the box, e.g. that you can easily update the navmesh at runtime and it does it in chunks, so it's very performant.basically i have to sacrifice access to nice features and free assets just in order to use an actually good game engine.i mean even just having metahumans in your engine is really helpful.
>>565217894your FFT inspired art is peak but having a full team for a game like this is suicide
>>565218220good for him, but i have no interest in his game and i make games in order to create something i want to play and not in order to write a blog post about how i made money with my game.
MMO Crawlers: The Turbo Wildcard from byteme games by byteme games>wait it's biteme? not byteme!??!
>>565218447You can use most Unreal assets in Unity. Consider how much of the fancy Unreal shit you would actually use and how much deving in Unreal would slow you down because it has such a shitty workflow.
>>565218367Yeah I have a steam page, just prepping the media and a trailer>>565218513What do you mean anon
>>565218757you are right. just gonna suck that everything is in uasset format and you have to export every single asset manually into fbx format.
>>565217772God no wonder he seethes at underspace so much
>>565218949doesn't unreal it's license forbid you using it in another engine?
>>565218860you have a 6? people team for a game in a genre that regularly does poor sales even when it's a game from previously successful and skilled devs
>>565219078Fab Standard License>Use the assets commercially or privately Modify and adjust the assets in order to incorporate them into your Projects>Commercially distribute your Projects with the Fab assets incorporated into it>Use the assets with any compatible tools (usage is not limited to Unreal Engine)>Share the asset (directly, via a private repository or in the Project) with your collaborators that are working on the Project with you
>>565215670>when I clearly lack skillthat's the intention of trying a medium first>look at other's work>find what kind of 2D/3D style do you like>look for some tutorials>learn the basics of the medium and software>make a little game to test how it will be (you can try different genres too)take the feeling of "being scared to try" or "not knowing how to do it" as your starting point, push your limits a little bit more each dayI'm using this technique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5K0uqhxgsE
>>565219220Yeah they help me out cause they want to bro
>>565219078Timmy is a friend of agdg surely he wouldn't mind? Lets get a live camera feed on him shall we?>the camera feed
>take a break to game>controllers a piece of shithow do your games handle this
>>565219426hobbycope is all fine and good as long as you realize that the game has no marketability but it's a different thing if you are lying to yourself
>>565219582i only support wired xbox 360 controller
Gamedev is actually my job, my hobby is writing horse words
>>565219582I have no idea what you are asking. use a translation service
>>565218989Envy is a sin, you know.
it was supposed to be a joke
>>565219619What do you want me to do about it exactly
>>565219795equine hoof mare horseshoe mane stallion that's all i got
if you think about it, "knowing where to start" is actually a skill. if you'd let a total noob draw a painting they probably wouldn't even sketch first. or they wouldn't even find a reference before sketching. they wouldn't even put the right tools on their table.
>>565220148Start with Pong.
>>565220042Maybe the real making it is learning to be content with moderate success.
>>565220121i think it was a reference to the family guy joke on bojack horseman
>>565193059>Logo looks good but the capsule is too simple, I prefer the current AI capsule.dont listen to this anon i like the one with the car hitting the wall vertically and is infinitely better than the ai on>>565187538I think the trailer needs to reflect the actual "game" part of the game more at the front, the different game modes and objectives and stuff. I would also STRONGLY recommend making another map with a desert theme or something to provide visual variety. right now it feels more like a technical simulator than a gameI think the collisions should be more "explosive", a car slamming into the truck a truck at 40 should result in more than a little dent for both vehicles, at least for the cameraI REALLY like the music and it really ties the trailer together at least however the editing is a little too low energy
>>565220364i sometimes wonder why nobody gives a shit about finding ways to be happy without success. i mean when you are happy without success, you are literally free. but i seems like people love to have their happiness depend on success. as if it's cheating to be happy without success.i mean if even an african child can survive in a slum, then i can survive in a first world country easily, so it's definitely not about survival. when people go into rants about how it's hard survival to live in first world country they always make up bullshit scenarios that never happen. there's even wasted alcoholics who somehow survive, even if they can't even communicate anymore. there's always some sort of security net. and even without that african children in slums seem to survive.it's almost like people see success as a drug. just like people who can't be happy without smoking weed. and their goal isn't to be happy without weed, their goal is to get more of it.
>>565220364So something that is impossible for a rich French guy?
>called /v/3>/v/ ignores it>/agdg/ hates it and him>5k views on a good dayGenuinely why does he keep doing this? Can't he just fund some games here if he's insisting on throwing money away?
>>565220742Cumbles problem is that he wants to be a beloved celebrity. But he's such a repugnant asshole he can't do it.
>>565218447Unreal was God-tier during UE4 era. It could run on a potato and the performance was great. UE5 is a buggy, bloated mess.
>>565220364https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6AizqIy_m6Y
>>565167594Pile of shit. I gotta do better.
The current get rich quick meta is self-improvement grifting.Why aren't you making a video game about self-improvement?
>>565220990The problem isn't just that he's an asshole, but he just can't help himself from seething. He could have enjoyed a position as an /agdg/ golden boy if he was any less of a spamming schizo.His inability to get anywhere could be studied as an example about how to blow it as a gamedev, but he won't even get that much attention. Meanwhile his hero trainwiz makes one tweet and I see it everywhere
If I prototype a game which has a 'gimmick' other games do, classics, which I have never played.Should I play them for research and inspiration or avoid them and try to create a purer design driven by just my ideas? Is it actually purer? is there a merit to this?
>>565221626
>>565221626because games are anti self-improvement
>>565221805emphasis on grifting
steam tax + publisher tax + engine tax + federal and state tax kek. 1 milly suddenly turns to 250k in profit
>>565221767I also experienced this. Turns out assfat makes for great cushioning. Just buy a better ass cushion.
>>565220640I've watched neighther.
>>565196708the market makes that choice, not you, and snkrx is brownzilian
>>565221941350k*It's $7 per $20
if i ever get rich i'll make an experiment where i have a game studio and hire people to make a bugs bunny torturing simulator. to prove that people will do every dumb shit just because they get paid to do it. i'll then write a book about the experiment.
>>565221758Always play and study more games.
>>565220640No, it's a horse show reference
>>565222050>to prove that people will do every dumb shit just because they get paid to do itpaid? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
>>565222127So your pick is that there is no merit to doing your own thing separated from everything else, it's always beneficial to study more games?
>>565219421I should try. Theres a few styles Id like to try but I need to gather them together to decide. Thanks sis :)
Anyone else starting to notice the AI Chads won? What do we do?
>>565222042criminal. thats criminal.
>>565222264Normies will electrocute the shit out of you just cause a labcoat told them to lel
Neal always makes fun, free games. So refreshing to see a dev making games for the love of it, instead of chasing money.https://neal.fun/
>>565222424Study more of your design space if you want to be a designer. Randomly throw shit at the wall if you want to gamble.Good artists borrow while great artists steal.
>>565222958>Click a game>Full screen Google adUhmmmm
>>565222958>>instead of chasing money>just hope food magically appears in your fridge and your rent/mortgage gets paid by rich benefactors, bro
>>565221703Trainwiz does nothing but post his cat and Morrowind now
anyone making a game like this?
>>565223128gamdev is not a good way to pay the bills anon-kun
>>565221941>>565222042the thing is though, you don't NEED a publisher or a engine that taxes you (unity or unreal) to succeed. you can always try to do it yourself, and use something like godot or write your own engine.the government taxes are an extremely heated topic that goes well beyond gamedev, so this only leaves the steam tax.and the steam tax... well... the more you look into it, the less reason there is for it to be as big as it is. and yet, the devs take it, beause they're cucks. they're not willing to stand up to gabencunt and demand better conditions, and they are not willing to force gamercunts to use something other than steam (even though they could). i don't know why devs are like this, but that's just how things are at the moment
>>565223398I'm gonna fucking Clank the bot
>>565223398fucking kek
started with the graphical shit to get it out of the way before going back to the massive coding block, i think i'll focus on it the next couple of days. i also might redesign one aspect that would make it more stylish by far which will increase engagement heavily, but removes a rarer panty shot.
Well now I feel unhappy again
I'm gonna lock in. I'll be gone for an hour.No I won't dev, I'll be at the gym
>>565223949as if you go to the gym you femboy
>>565223647Did you try using AI?
>>565223402Video games are a $184 billion dollar industry. That's bigger than film and music COMBINED. The entire semiconductor industry is only $264b.The cybersecurity industry is $180b or roughly the same size. Would you also tell someone trying to get into cybersecurity that it's not a great way to pay the bills?
>>565224117Professionals have standards.
>>565223363Sounds like he's content with his success
>>565224234Ah so you did, good.
>"wow you've been here all day and haven't made any progress yet? dude you're so cringe lmao"
>>565222264
>>565224173your posts are retarded brother
>>565224358
>>565220718there's no room for happiness when you're not sure if you have enough money from one month to the next
>>565224749goy slave mindset
gotta love the neverdev gooner to make the board so rancid that i get stuff done
>>565220884I think it's his pathetic attempt at becoming online famous
>>565224814>can't conjure food and shelter out of thin air>goy slave mindset
>>565225051Yeah but after six years you'd think he'd take the hint
>>565221767>>565221992people who sit all day lose their ass muscles which are supposed to support your sitting
>>565224490Your IQ isn't high enough to understand.
>>565225124>jews get to decide whether you can be happy or not
>>565222009market overwhelmingly prefers games made by whites or east-asiansthat brownzilian can thank his great-great-grandmother for fucking a white man as those genes sprinkled down enough that he got lucky the amount of successful browns in gamedev is statistical error tier
>>565225379what am I supposed to eat? where am I supposed to sleep?
>>565225559crazy how every successful brown person in video games actually does seem to have a caucasian ancestor
>>565224814goy slave mindset is to submit and wageslave your life away which I have no interest in and the whole purpose of money for me is to free myself of the stress of worrying about money
>>565217091There are a lot of factors. It's both good and bad.>how is that possibleBecause people take 10 years to finish their "first game". And even when your revenue is 150k dollars you still end up short. It's not only the review number that counts, but also dev time. Most success story of late are only good on the surface; a true success it's the nun doomclone. Made in a year, with no publisher, no discord, no kickstarter and reached 500 reviews in no time. That's a success.
>>565224253Transwiz didn't succeed
>>565226643Yet he seems content with his success
>>565217894Fuck off I'm working on my demo. Asking for feedback two days before dd it's unpolite. You are a dumbass and I will skip your game
>>565226890>People on social media seem happyNo hecking way
>>565225251Fat fuck notchcunt
I like making fun of how much of a ghoul cumble is. Spends thousands on reddit upvotes but can't even outsell trainwiz or patdev, then comes here to seethe.
>>565227046Fuck you, where is your game?
Alright I'm starting to see why you find bocchiposters annoying, but you're also stupid for not seeing the obvious false flagging going on
>>565226942I've never seen people on social media seem happy, what social media are you on?
>>565227195*lifts you by the neck and throws you away*
>>565226890I still remember how the day before release, he was ideaguying about the game he'd be funding with the millions he was sure to make. 2 years later, his game is forgotten, and he's still struggling to update multiplayer for his 3 players.
>>565227097Not being sold for 70% off, for one thing.
>>565227124>guise im totally a bochi hater but arent you being too hateful towards us- I mean them?!
>>565227376Yeah because it doesn't exist.
>>565223497true true. I'm the anon ur replying to, but i'd take a publishing deal if its one of the big 5 and i get paid to finish my game. I'm using sdl3 though i do miss godot.
>>565227345>his game is forgottenThen why are you still crying about it? Especially when we were discussing how much cumble was a failure insteadSeems kind of odd
>>565227525Because you are a nodev loser who can't help but shittalk real yesdevs and glaze some big egoistic loser? In fact, you are probably Transwiz himself.
>>565227525My favorite cumball thing was when someone datamined his Kickstarter and found out that like 60% of the money was just his parents donating to him.
>>565227525I'm NTA you were talking to.
>>565227760So, having supportive parents is bad now? Not his fault, your parents were deadbeat.
>>565159562
>>565226890Underperformdev and Underflop threads on its release were fantastic. He can meme that he is satisfied, but numbers don't lie.
Thoughts on my new Steam capsule?
>>565226574This. Nun game is generating a good return based on time worked. MMO98 vs Poke All Toads, similar financial return but development time is significantly different to where MMO98 wins. Less effort, less time, no "im tired of working on this game"
>>565228159Lmao because your parents needs to pay the kickstarter tax to support you?That's why discordfags are a thing BTW. Truth hurts too much, need an hugbox
>>565228159If you can't succeed without mommy and daddy bailing you out you aren't suceeding.Funny how the thread is suddenly infested with a schizo who can't speak proper English getting mad about trainwiz.
>>565228567That's the best part about cumble. He's so desperate to be loved he can't leave anything alone.But like any rich retard he can't have an actual personality or anything that would endear him to people. Poor loser has nothing but bots.
You can kind of see the difference in attitude between trainwiz and cumball easily. One is happy with modest success and one is forever angry that his mobile game didn't make big bucks, even though they made around the same amount of money
>>565228286I think the biggest lesson we can all learn from trainwiz is to never count your chickens before they hatch. He established a persona of such surety, but when the time came, he saw the writing on the wall and preemptively decided to "leave" agdg (we all know you're still here lmao) and then lie about his revenue numbers to literal whos on the internet to save face. It's sad really. Remember to stay humble, kids.
>>565226643True. The return sucks for what is now 8 or 9 years of development. Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and apply a 50:1 ratio on his sales, the numbers just aren't good enough.>publisher with 30% cut>all the people he hired to do workIt's just not worth it.Now a different example with a similar development time, Peripeteia>2000+ reviews>24.99>still early accessThis one is just going to do even better once it releases to 1.0. Even with a 3 man dev team the return is great even more so if we give them the same benefit of 50:1 sales. I'm predicting 4000 reviews within a year of 1.0.
>>565228567Yet most successful people did just that, all three last presidents, the richest men and women of the world, most politicians, why is gamedev different?
>>565228923you are talking with the dredges of society, most here have been dreaming of making a game for a decade+ and never spent past a pong prototype if that, they will never accept the truth
wtf this is an aggy game?https://store.steampowered.com/app/1545990/Deadeye_Deepfake_Simulacrum/u guys arent so bad after all...
>>565228869Crumble's biggest issue is that he's autistic and still to this day seethes.
>>565229085i made that :3
>cumball starts crying about how he's totally comparable to the presidents and he's a total success guysLmao you already doxxed yourself by accident dumbass.Maybe spend some time on your personality or just hire more bots to replace your social media presence instead.
>>565229213ur amazing
>>565227760Kek more like he himself funding it adter his dad gave him money. He's a self made man you know...
>>565229124No, he isn't, probably the most mentally stable dev to ever grace this general. Stop being a jealous retard.
>>565229313>He's a self made man you know...It's called jerking yourself off, not being self-made. Dumb ESL.
>>565229283Cry a river, Transwiz. You failed, and it was very funny.
>>565229487Trainwiz is not here anymore cumble. It's time for you to move on too.
>>565229468Anon I was being sarcastic. You dumb ESL
>>565229621I'm not Crumble retard, and you are a loser.
Do you think cumball only gets uppity in these threads because he knows that people have saved the receipts of all the dumb shit he said elsewhere and knows he can't get things like attention and interviews because it'd be really easy to show what a dumb piece of shit he is?
We all know that Crumble is gone from these threads because if he was still here, there's no way he could've gone months without talking about himself.
>>565229657>Trainwiz hangs out with celebs while cumball has to pay reddit botsThis is what I mean. Look at Todd. You know he probably sleeps like a baby
>>565226993bro hasn't aged too well
>>565229621>Stop noticing please>underflooooop posts the same shitty webms on vee threads but of course he won't come here>but his game was successful though?LolLmao
>>565229951I've outright seen him get regularly banned Because he's fucking stupid and easily falls for bait
if you need a frame of reference to make game design decisions and you suck at making decisions, just let nature decide.what do you control? a human.what camera perspective? first-person, 3Dwhat do you do in the game? gather, eat, shoot, punch, run, walkwhat are you stats? strength, speed, endurance etc.so what's the creative part? the situation. which environment? which scenario (alien invasion, zombie apocalypse, spaceship, other planet, abandoned mansion etc.)enemies? depend on the environment.stuff you can gather/find? depends on the environment.etc. etc.be creative where it matters and uncreative where it doesn't matter much.
both games flopped sorry to wake you from your delusion
>>565230045>but of course he won't come hereThat's every yesdev though. There's a reason you don't see any real devs come here, save for the ones who are desperate or failed like cumball and his flop.
Underspace is much better game than Crumble because it has space ships and space monsters
when i try to make good games they flop. so i must try to make a bad game to succeed.
I enjoy underspace I don't think I'll ever buy crumble
why doesnt he just release paper sky? looks like a good game
>>565229085>>565229213>>565229310samefag transfag that must be killed immediately
Hello.
I had a lot of fun with trainwiz's game. I'm glad he's doin well.
browsing /g/ for an hour shows me how much AI wonlike holy shit it is completely overyou could repost the anime images they are generating and not a single pdf over here could tell it was AI
>>565230314>I noticed your writing pattern ;^)Every yesdev comes here to shitpost anonymously Also discordfags comes to shill their new games here. You can't have it both waysThe only dev that fucked off for real is that schizo with that shitty sonic 3d game with a shitty child for main character (after 3 years of lmaoing has finally changed it to a Tanuki) that now postes alone in /v threads
I'm back. That was a good gym_ sesh. Now I'm all powered up to go dev.
>>565227462>I'm the anon ur replying to, but i'd take a publishing deal if its one of the big 5 and i get paid to finish my game.you're missing the forest for the trees. i never said that all publishers are bad (just most of them). if you find a good one that actually does marketing for you and even finances your dev then it's a good deal.same with the engine(s), unity and unreal make you pay a tax, but that tax is at the expense of you not having to make an engine yourself or having 0 support.my point is they're not NECESSARY to succeed. you can fairly easily succeed without both. without steam, on the other hand, success is only possible on paper. but to do that, you have to be a 1% of the 1%, so realistically this means nothing to most devs, since the odds are too improbable. and that's the problem.
>>565230802Henlo, any gamedev proggy today sis? Me? Nah none.
>>565230603get fucked.just make a good game retard
>>565231062>4chanxget fucked transfag
>>565184191IDk how I'm going to do that. Stencils?
>>565231157kek, smoked that freak
>>565230881>Every yesdev comes here to shitpost anonymouslySounds like cope
>>565231034I will post some later today after I get home.
>>565227462>I'm the anon ur replying to, but i'd take a publishing deal if its one of the big 5 and i get paid to finish my game.Similar. It must be a publisher who markets really well and will pay me to finish my game. I at least win even if they fail me. Most publishers suck though so almost always you're better off going solo
>>565231228>I say everyday that thread is shit and you should stay away>I say everyday that we need to kill nodevs>but everyday I'm on agdg shitposting>I even post my new game progress here>I swear there is nothing to see here
>>565230017
>>565231190hey, dont call me a freak. im normal guy...
>>565231840smoked that fygoonfanboi freak KEKAROO
>>565231000True, I'll keep an open but conservative mind. my idea of a good eal is just what >>565231342 is saying.I'm not delusional enough to leave steam kek but its cool when devs have the balls to do so, like vintage story.are there any aggy devs that actually ditched steam?
I don't blame gamers for simping for steam but I do blame gamedevs that simp for them
Is this a good place to ask questions? I don't want to annoy anyone, but google and tutorials haven't been helpful, and I'm hesitant to ask chatgpt or whatever
>>565232323You can ask, but anything that will get reasonable answers here will also get reasonable answers from chat gippity.
>>565232323>and I'm hesitant to ask chatgpt or whateverdumb luddy luddite
does anyone wanna read my source code and see how i'm designing the structures.(rotate)
>>565232845no rotate us functioning humans are using llms to generate code and barely reading the output before comitting
>>565230260in a lot of small games you don't actually control a character
>>565230802>>565231034>>565231339>>565230978kill yourself
Bro everyone is on Codex. You don’t get it, if you’re not on Claude Code you’re ngmi. Everyone is on Kilo. You need to be on Kilo Code. Zed. The boss said to try Zed. Whole org is moving. Cursor, you need Cursor, everyone not on Cursor is going to get left behind. Roo is SOTA. Use Roo. My friends are on Cerebras Code. All my friends are on Cerebras Code and make fun of me for using Roo.
>cumball and trainwiz posting returns at the same time as tranimespammers start spamming againNOOTICING
Please understand that it was absolutely necessary for me to do this before anything on my backlog
>>565233056
what's better, having a box beneath the feet that checks if a player can jump. or just having a counter that checks if the player was grounded in the last 0.2 seconds to check if the player can jump?(to avoid not jumping on input, if you are like 0.01 units above ground and therefore not grounded)
>>565233915
>>565234261Is gud
to me, intelligence means appreciation for beauty and goodness. that's why hobbits are extremely intelligent.
>>565233056Based
>>565234787tolkien demonstrated clearly that the non adventuring hobbits were self centered, spoiled and had no idea how good they had it in the shire
>>565206909>it's the apocalypse>anyway who wants to play some smash bros lolUnfortunately the longest-lived games are the games that require multiplayer. Without the input of other humans it just isn't possible to stretch a game out very far. The most you'll get is maybe Terraria or Minecraft or Dwarf Fortress. Building sorts of games.No matter what I think of, there is no single game I would give a shit about. I could get what, 100? 1000 hours of entertainment? And then what? I've sated myself for a fraction of a year just to face 30 more years of nothing before dying to a completely treatable disease because there's no doctors? Great. Nah I'd stop playing games and go outside. There wouldn't even be a reason to gamedev.
>>565234261What is the logic behind surfing?
>>565235126not their problem that you live in a nigger shithole. if the world was ruled by hobbits it'd be literally garden eden. you probably also blame all of africas problems on white people.
>>565234787for me intelligence means whatever i want so any group i like is extremely intelligent
>>565235280I think you need reread the beginning because tolkien could not be more clearmaybe you are just too stupid to get the subtext
i do not care what money junkies think about gamedev. they'd literally suck dick for money if it's the most efficient way to make income.they constantly contemplate how to make the digital equivalent of heroin in order to make people addicted and waste their money on junk. yet they aren't even smart enough to become a digital drug dealer. they are pathetic scum and whatever they think about gamedev is of no value to me.
>>565234228Cumball is just seething
>>565235553Based and sovlpilled
>>565235553Finally a based post on /agdg/
>>565235126The only Moral way for a conscious being to exist is as a sovereign and free God.
trainwiz vs crumble was the best arc this board ever had
i've come to realize that combat is a trap for indie development. what are some good core mechanics to build a game around that aren't combat for a stupid retard like me who has only played action games my whole life? farming seems viable, and maybe making a game based on movement.
>>565235187Walls in old game would also bounce players back a bit to avoid clipping. Can exploit that by strafing towards a wall while you're falling to get more speedhttps://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Surf
It is deeply immoral for you to be posting in the amateur gamedev general if you're not actively developing a video game.
>>565235187>>565236435https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJr2qUrzEqg
>>565236383Don't back down bro, you'll regret it. The combination of characters with cool skills and abilities, fast pace combat and story with zany plot twists? Once you've had a taste nothing else compares. These are the real video games everything else is a snack at best.
>want to have steam users sent info to their friends via steam chat>this feature was removed in 2019 to combat bots
>>565236562>if i write code in a programming language it's considered yesdeving>if i write a plan and idea in my head and research ideas it's nodevingi never understood this. actually it doesn't take 10 years to build a house, but it takes 10 years to learn/plan how to build one.
all my proggy is code robust design its like zimedit
>>565236641Give me examples of indie games that have all of those.
>>565236789Are you learning the tools at the same time?
>>565236847You don't need anyone else's permission to accomplish greatness.
>>565236789>>if i write a plan and idea in my head and research ideas it's nodevingThis is only valid if you have the skills of an established yesdev. You cannot design if you don't understand the design space. Otherwise, you're only producing unusable neverdev ideaguy drivel.
life gets better when you intentionally decide to be happy about not having things. i think it's the moment of resolution happening in your brain. it frees mental resources when nothing is a problem anymore.
I'm putting in a self insert into a story focused game and women will fall in love with him because he will be perfect in their minds. Then, when I have a big fan base, I'll just marry the hottest (biological female) one.
>>565236383Just make a shooter if you want action.
I showed AI my code and it told me I made a sophisticated state machine. I don't even know what a state machine is but I feel really smart now.
>>565236383>not making a game related to your favorite genrewhats even the point
>>565236609Very good tutorial, is what I used with small changes.
>>565237101fuck that i will buy a cyber truck with gamedev
>>565237116Would you accept a femboy cosplayer
>>565236383What if you make two circlesIn one game genre you know and likeIn the other, games you think that could be viableThen you intersect them and see what's the result
>>565237116>hideki asking any bayo cosplayer any gender run% for marriage
i heard hell has a special program for proprietary software developers. you get to dress up like girls but you wont like it because your probably also a chud.
>>565237218good job anon
>>565237260>FemboyYou mean faggot.No, I don't want faggots.
>>565219619>>565219426Don't listen to that fag anon, you game has soul and a consistent vision.Im jealous
>>565237380Good idea.>>565237260I'll take you if the other anon doesn't want. His loss
>>565237750hes just using the character generator thats on itch
>>565237814Based 2B or 9S
>>565234159I use free chatgpt.
game engines have a mindset problem, the problem is that they aren't making a game.let me explain why.it makes their mind avoid solving problems. e.g. if they'd make a game, they'd make an inventory system. the problem would be solved. but since they are a game engine, they actively avoid solving problems.now let that sink in: your goal is to solve a problem, yet you work on a tool that actively avoids solving problems, because you obsess about it "being a tool". it's like your goal is to build a house, yet you obsess about building a hammer, even though you'd be capable of building a house building machine. it basically "turns the restriction into the norm".basically a common task in blender is to model a human. so does blender have human modeling tools? no. why? because it is limited to just being a basic tool. why? because... why exactly?it's like actively preventing progress because you refuse to solve a real problem.nobody goes into blender saying "i want to model", they go into blender because they want a 3D model. that's the point of using software. to PRODUCE something. the point is that the software helps you make what you need.i mean, just think about the inefficiency of 100000 artists modeling the exact same 3D model, because the software decides you always have to do it from scratch over and over again. because it refuses to solve your problem directly.nobody would encourage devs to write 10000 rendering engines from scratch, yet it's normal that we write 10000 inventory systems from scratch, yet they all end up being the same anyways because everybody is using the same techniques.
>>5652379572b so i can see your cute bulge when i lift the skirt *w*
shut up faggots. i'm a girl and this is so annoying
>>565237101whatever you nodevs gotta tell yourself to cope with being such fucking failures
>>565238269You shouldn't have rights
>>565238097If you tried making your own engine you'd quickly realize the more general purpose crap you bolt on to it because "every game needs it", the worse and worse it gets.
>>565237750If you're jealous then get to work improving your dev skills. He's also not working alone.The fact is dungeon crawlers don't sell.>>565237927Link?
>>565238269Heyyy there. *wiggles eyebrows*How about you and I go to my place and.. get to know each other.. so we can make a game together. And I'll even be so kind to tell you upfront that I'm an artist and judging by the way you look, you could be an art piece, that I'd steal from any gallery.
>>565238605it got taken down it seems
>>565238470not every game needs 3D rendering, so why do engines have it? not every game needs pathfinding, so why do they all have it? not every game needs physics, so why does every engine have it?
>>565239161I don't believe in multi purpose game engines so none of your points work on me.
>>565238605>dungeon crawlers don't sellmeanwhile the game i am working on at a AA company is a dungeon crawler lmao. we already have funding and even got a new funder today. over 300k wishlists on steam btw
they will say "dont make an mmorpg alone, it'll take 20 years", and then go on making no game anyways in 20 years.
>>565239161Think outside of le box.>Shitty card game doesn't need path finding!>Add pathfinding to make cards physically move across the table for some retarded gameplay reason.Like a strategy game. The card only really activates once it reaches your opponent or a certain point.That's how easy it is, frens.
>>565238817You could say I don't bite... Unless you want me to... Hehehe... Winks.
>>565238269A-a foid?A vagina haver?Humanahumna Awoooga
>>565239781>Bite>Bite meOh my god, get back to deving marnix, I'm trying to be playful with a totally real chick while talking about gamedev
>>565239660almost gamedev advice is trash
>>565239531By dungeon crawler I mean blobber.
>>565239954i'm rotate this is why need a name
>>565238470>>565239161This is why the unity approach of splitting things into packages you can add as you like is good. Though arguably it has a bit too much included by default.
ai gives me the power to ship a very good game every monthi was just an average dev
>>565240379You are not a girl, retard.
>>565240532https://github.com/SeraphYuki/ragdolls-like-me/blob/main/tests/spells.ci look like one
>>565240476yeah the problem is they'd rather spend all their efforts on more rendering stuff (something that is actually solved already), instead of adding actual gameplay, level design stuff etc.they don't even have a csg editor, something hammer had in the fucking 90s lmao.
i just realized i have no game
>>565239660I'll give you an mmorpg idea that you can solodev.>5 classes with each 1-2 attacks and 3 abilities.>10 levels>10 dungeons>Encourage maximum co-operation>Stats are all the same>Unlock hard mode on lvl 10, that replaces all enemies with super duper elite enemies.>Cosmetic unlocks>Low poly enemiesWould probably take 3 years full time or 2 with a friend.
>>565240379
>>565240654>>565240379girls dont even know about the z axis your name being rotate is a conundrum
>>565240654You don't.
>>565240806The clitoris is on the z-axis. Of course they know
>>565240741no one uses the CSG workflow anymoreif you like it and want to use it then ditch unity, fire up an llm and get to vibe codingthis is not a shitpost, just honest advicethere's no reason not to have whatever gamedev workflow nowadays
>>565240774a really basic PSO clone would be possible to make solo in 1-2 years
>>565240949i'm making a moba in a custom c engine and you are doing what? a cube in unity?also i ride a motorcycle. i went 90 in traffic yesterday and prayed to satan the whole time.
>>565240758start with pong sis
>>565241124Still not a girl, retard.
>>565241124main in league of legends?
>>565241124>also i ride a motorcycle. i went 90 in traffic yesterday and prayed to satan the whole time.You aren't a girl you are an overgrown 15yo boy just like myself and half this board.
>>565241087Lmao okay trainwiz
>>565241242>>565241303might as well be with the splendor of my soul who cares>>565241293annie or syndra
>>565241397>annie or syndraokay you might be an foid then.Final testWhat do you think about the shyvana rework?
it's an art form to create escapism. i think the word itself implies a certain "distance" from what you escape from. it's probably why i never get a feeling of escapism in games with realistic looking graphics. as an example i chose pic related. don't you just immediately feel in a world that has absolutely NOTHING to do with real life? if i remember walking around in the nether, i can immediately feel being far away from reality. like i'm lonely in this far away place.
>>565240654show us your girl voice>>>/wsg/6136865
What an awful thread
>>565242102it only gets worse from here
im shouting all of rotates posts in a really masculine voice and my mom thinks im deranged nowthanks aggy daggythis is what i get for being a nasus chad
didn't rotate have a trip why did they get rid of it. At least frosch is kind enough to make it easy to filter him
>>565242102It's an easy tell that it's awful though. When the schizo comes up and whines about trainwiz you know to leave and come back in a week.
if you want me to make quality posts, pay me
>>565242206>nasussovl
>>565242303Why do mods do nothing?
>>565241949https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptRhPObl4Dw
>>565242538you would have to nuke the entire thread for several weeks and even then it probably wouldn't help
>>565242206for me i'm a gnar main
>>565242206wukong main>>565243028is agdg top lane certified?
>>565242206>>>/wsg/6137089
woah. my game is going to fail. i just got hit with a vision.hmm...what now...
I never playered league of legends
>>565240492post the steam links
>>565244045it was sovl in the beta/early seasons but that was three decades ago
How do you get the ball rolling on a new gamedev twitter account?
>>565244196true, when they removed item stacking and the gold per minute items it lost its sovl
>>565244308>How do you get the ball rolling on a new gamedev twitter account?
>>565244051last month https://store.steampowered.com/app/1180320/month before https://store.steampowered.com/app/3810880/
>>565244330gp5 gangplank was goated
>>565240741>instead of adding actual gameplay, level design stuff etc.they were working on a behavior tree system to be used for npcs and it got scrappedthere was some interesting animation stuff that also never went anywhere I'm pretty sure
>>565244308with hashtags, youtube videos, tiktok and ...huueeegh.. reddit
>>565244556Elon explicitly said multiple times not to use hashtags as they are outdated and the algo doesn't need them anymore
>>565244462They removed my goat Innervating Locket just as I figured out a stupidly broken Udyr build for competitive play. You would become the strongest champion in the game able to solo 3 people with ease at 13-18min so you could just walk up to Dragon.
>>565244556I guess I don't get how to cross-shill. Like if I have a successful youtube video how do I convert that into twitter followers, same question with reddit or tiktok posts.
>>565244858direct them to your social media accounts at the end of your videos
>>565240758>>565241231kill yourself
>>565240476I feel it includes the wrong things by default.
>open /agdg/>search my favorite dev with ctrl + f>close thread
@565245252>/agdg/>devslaff
>>565240774>>565241087A co-op game just makes more sense than chasing the mmorpg dream. Otherwise what anon lined out is pretty good though I would do less dungeons and more abilities as I'm into character building opportunities. One of these sort of games is definitely on my list of things to make but it's gonna have to wait as I'm working on some simpler projects first.
#565245491I'm so sorry it's not you, a random guy with no game
dear 565245634,im going to have a game soon
>>565245252>someone stole my dev name>they dont even have a game they just slop post>they get more replies than i ever had
I need to be less fucking miserable
Why the fuck didn't anyone tell me the next fest deadline was happening? Are literally none of you entering a game?
>>565246176i made like 4 posts about it
>>565246083my dev name is awesome. just get a new handle, this is a great opportunity for change
>>565246176I'm not jumping like a nigger just because daddy gabe told me to
>>565246163did you take your meds yet anon? smell the flowers, it is a beautiful day to dev
>>565246083i stopped posting progress because i didn't like the dev name anons gave me
>>565246583brapphog dev is that you?
>>565234261i was working on a bhop surf game a while before pogo3di scrapped it because i thought nobody really gives a fuck about such a game. if they wanted to surf, they would launch counterstrike source or somethingmy goal with pogo3d was to make something similar but different
>>565247121I mean you could theoretically make a surf game with more to it
>>565246163honestly not coming here is a good start
my nigga if you making a whole game outta fucking bunny hopping you needa play more games halo's spaceman jump was much better than bhopping ever was and rightly killed that mechanic in shooters for 20 years
>>565246176I plan on MAYBE entering something next year
Claude has now given my game close to 5000 lines of (functional!) code. More than I'd be able to pump out in a lifetime.
>he measures productivity by LOCNGMI
>>565247981It's kind of the other way around. I realise how delusional I was to even entertain the idea that I could learn to program a game all on my own. It would have taken me so much time to just physically type that shit. Actually figuring out all the logic behind it and connecting all the systems would have taken me literal decades.
>>565247761aggydaggy has some of the worst ideas
Enginedev Making Thought Provoking Games music;https://youtu.be/YJiU70FqiaI
BASTARD FUCKING BITCH!!! WHY YOU NO BOUGHTED MY GAME YOU BASTERD?????
>>565248371Shit mang my game has over 60,000 lines of code right now
>Open up steam>notice far far west has a store header not s&b boxdid gary fall outta gabens good graces?
>>565250412>>Open up steam>>notice far far west has a store header not s&b box>did gary fall outta gabens good graces?
>>565250364Sounds like you're doing something wrong
>>565250436>>>Open up steam>>>notice far far west has a store header not s&b box>>did gary fall outta gabens good graces?
>>565250412>did gary fall outta gabens good graces?i can't possibly think of a reason for that
>>565250469A lot of it is replication shit. I could probably get that number down but not by much.
I have something that might look like a bug but it's actually intentional
i will deny that i use ai on my gameluddies cant stand it
My game might look like it's shit but that's actually intentional
>>565250364What kind of game?
a new thread would be REAL nice right about now...
>>565251749I plan to immediately start shitposting about Gabe btw
>>565251749nobody told you? this is the last one until after demoday
>>565251836if you make the new thread then the OP image could be a shitpost itself
>>565250909>spiritual successor to Garry's Mod>it's not like Garry's Mod>more of a cash grab>get's complaints this is not like Garry's ModWhy move over when I can just play on Garry's Mod?
>gabencunt thread
>>565251749new>>565252206>>565252206>>565252206
>>565251964>developers own their own gamemodes and can monopolize the profit from them, instead of it going to pay server hosts who ruin the gamemode with addons>sbox handles all the server hosting for you for free, which is industry standard now for a game platform>escape from the hell of .bsp maps means map authoring is way way way way easier>you can (in theory) release your sbox gamemodes as standalone games on steamso it's better for developers. which is good because gamemode developers for gmod have been sitting on their hands since jetboom retired basically. it's just been RP, ZS, TTT for 10+ yearsthis is one of my special interests
>>565252330>sbox handles all the server hosting for you for free, which is industry standard now for a game platformthey "handle" it for you for data gathering and training LLMsgamers and gamedevs alike really are not the brightest bunch
