Old School Hive Justice editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>564972490>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:‘Beyond the Hive’ is out. Patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/beyond-the-hive-free-update-out-now-patch-1-11-0-expeditions/119479Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Space Marine 2:Hotfix 12.3 Patch Noteshttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/381-hotfix-12-3-patch-notesDude Wallhttps://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>Also Exist:Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon BladesJohn Carpenter's Toxic Commandoand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>565275956You forgot to add Far Far West.
>>565276040That game will be forgotten in a week, it's fine
>>565275956>Trump during his 40,000th assassination attempt
Cadia?More like CACAdia
>>565276106I'll remind you in a week then.
>>565276172only one attempt per year?
>>565276172>this is why I need my own cyclonic warhead, funded by the imperial tithe
>>565276516Administratum clerk error, please understand
>>565276106Literally half that list is dead or forgotten
>Space Marine 3 announced>Darktide 2 not even a rumor Sad.
>>565278487If the next game isnt Vermintide 3 Im rioting
>>565278487why would they release a new game when they can do two $12-20 paid classes a year in a game that also has a premium shop where a single outfit costs like $13
Vermintide III: The Age of Sigmar.
>>565278603>>565278814It won't be Vermintide because there won't be any vermin
>>565278812They will do a new game though. No other reason they'd be hiring UE5 people
>>565278603>>565278814The monkey paw grants your wish. >>565278812Tru
>>565279135>They will do a new game though. No other reason they'd be hiring UE5 peopleWell I mean of course, neither V2 or Darktide is keeping the lights on they need a new cash cow or else they die in a couple years.
Say what you will about fatshark, at least it isn't arrowhead.
>>565279496That's next level cope. AH is far better than Fatsharts.
>>565279638Far better at telling lies that's for sure.
Say what you will about fatshark, at least it isn't Adolf Hitler
>>565279851Yeah instead fatshart says nothing and abandons ship. We'll be playing Vermindarktide 11 by the time HD2 ends its life cycle.
>>565279496for all you fallacyfags, this is the moment you would be allowed to say "whataboutism," not all the other times you've used it
>>565279893At least Hitler added something meaningful to discourse.
>>565279982But we'll be playing it.
>>565280290And 100x more people will be playing HD2/3
>>565279496>Say what you will about fatshark, at least it isn't arrowhead.>Every 30 days we get new weapons>Every 120ish days we get new free contentIn what word would we hate this
>>565280431how many of those new weapons are good though
>>565280885Maybe half? I dunno I like the new medium SMG it goes brrrrrrrrrrt.
>>565278487Darktide 3 where we play as predefined characters who are members of a Rogue Trader's crew when?
>>565281502>Playing as Eldar, Speshmeens, IG, ectGod fuck yes.
>>565281618>ect
>>565281502No predefined characters please. It was good, but we live in a different era now. I don't want to be forced to pick a bald female black zealot voiced by deborah wilson
>>565281732Or at the very least, compromise>character is predefined with a name, but looks and gender aren't This way you can have the better approach to dialogue without putting people at the mercy of 2026 swede designs
>>565278954Skaven still exist in AiS>>565279893That’s a high bar to measure up to in fairness
Darktide is getting skitariiHelldivers doesn't get skitarii
Looking back on it, it’s something of a small miracle all the characters in the Vermintide games were White.
>>565282337>he thinks skitussy is going to be goodit'll be darktide's dying gasp
>>565282672It will be darktide's rebirth. The skitarii will save coop games
>>565281732After googling her, she sounds perfectly fine?
>>565282636>wood elves>white
>>565282839Yeah some say she's even really easy to work with
>>565282636If you care about such things, Sienna is from Estalia, ie Spain.
>>565283172You just give her a bucket of fried chicken and she'll say anything you want
>>565282636A few years make a huge difference. Meanwhile the Darktide canon cast is fully checklisted other than the ogryn
>>565282851White enough >>565283338Same for her
>>565283403>a literal xenos doesn't trigger his xenophobia
What the fuck did they do to the servers?Also the game was running so good for the longest time and now it loads slowI noticed this is a trend with Fatshark's games
>>565284254The servers are churning out skitarii as we speak
So this is just a fatshark shill thread? are we just going to ignore far far west and how good it is?
>>565284974shill your game then
>>565285037Best /coopg/ I've played in a while it's the "open world" map from helldivers with multiple side objectives that give rewards with a multi part main objective.It's a regular FPS but it does have some unique things (at least for the genre) like spells you can mix to get different effects such as acid spell plus fire equals big explosion the unlocks system involves doing multiple missions to complete quests and get rewards like new weapons and skins.There's no hard set classes but you can mix and match spells to tailor for different playstyles like support, DPS or crowd control.Shit's fun we'll see how much staying power it has but if the devs play their hands right it could be the next DRG not really a massive (accidental) hit like Helldivers 2 but still loved by the community.Plus it's 19 bucks to try it's not like you'll be dumping 40 on a giant turd like HD2 or Darktide
>>565284974Go ahead. We're listening
>>565285594do a better job of describing the game, if this is the extent of your shilling, then the game must not be very good
>>565285594Not convinced. Plus the low price tag attracts browns and slavs
>>565284974It's early access and looks it. Core gameplay seems like a generic floaty shooter. I wish it luck but doesn't seem to have enough of a gimmick like DRG did to have staying power.
>>565285928Suit yourself keep playing this giant pile of shit no skin off my back maybe fatshark will give you another game mode nobody will play before the year ends.Just dropped by to see if you guys were talking about it but I see it's still fatshark general
>>565286217im asked you to shill your game, you did a bad job of it and am asking you to do it again, but if yorue not willing to do that, then that just confirms my suspicions the game is not very good if youre not willing to sell it
So this is the far far west playerbase? No thanks
I thought far far west was best, but now i'm gonna ride the 'tideThank you for showing me the light
When is he getting in?
>>565287080We already have zealots
>>565287286none as high test as that though
While Nurgle's might isn't as advertised, I enjoyed getting overwhelmed by literally every single enemy in the game except bulwarks and crushers, even reapers weren't that bad.Crusher is the most frustrating turbo cancer ever and does the job of the bulwark and oneshots you at the same time
>>565288003Put away the heavy sword
>>565275956Is today the day the Darktide cosmetics rotate again?I must paypig to fund FatShart and GW to save the Swedish and UK economy.
>>565289301Patriot
>>565275956How is Payday 2 in the current year?Are mods still being made for it? I really liked the PDTH HUD.Also I'm one achievement left from 100 percenting DRG.I just have to do that barrel kick into the ring achievement and I'm free from management.What's the most idiot proof guide to it that a retard like me who cares about pointless video game achievements can follow?
>>565288003Rager rape gangs are worse. I can dance around half a dozen crushers and poke them to death but multiple ragers? In a straight fight? Forget it.
>>565290385I'm sure you could take them all in a gay fight
Is the ripper gun good?
>>565290729ye but you need it to have a magazine of 19 or below (ammo stat 64% maximum or something i dont remember exact numbers) and put blaze away on it
>>565290729No
>>565290729The short answer is no, the default "it just works" ogryn gun is the kickback.
>>565290729mk V is a solid side arm. Quick draw/reload, good enough damage to remove specials at range, can kill multiple specials before reloading, and you can mag dump it into a crowd if the case ever requires it.mk II is good for room clearing with PBB fire bulletsmk VI is there if you want use flechette.
>>565290729Short answer: NoLong answer: hell nah, nigga!
Fatshark liquidation date prediction?
Best ogryn melee weapon for gunluggers?
>>565291952POWER MAUL
>>565291847Two weeks.
>>565291270Why the Mk VI specifically?
>>565292513Flechette bleed is applied on a crit.When you crit each shot in a burst is also a crit.mkVI has burst fire on both its hip and braced shot. With the braced mode generally how you rapidly bring the pain with a ripper. The other rippers have full auto braced.Its braced shot, is a 3 round burst; Each critical roll creates 3 critical shots. Allowing you to stack maximum bleed off a single crit. This feature also applies to Lucky Bullet of Burst Limiter Override, which can also be made into crits with the modifier node. Both squeezing out a few extra free rounds, and increasing crit rate making it easier to maintain full bleed stacks on larger targets.And the mkVI also has the highest finesse modifier of the rippers, letting it get more regular damage out of those crits
>>565293805Thanks.
Ripper?I barely even know 'er!
>>565293805>When you crit each shot in a burst is also a crit.And if you don't crit, each shot in a burst is a non-critIt literally makes no difference, this meme needs to stop.
>>565279496it's funny how FS veteran players hate the companies, there's no blind glazing
>>565281618It's a huge missed opportunity. We could have had characters from different factions working together in a way that is actually congruent with the lore and a nearly limitless potential of the locales they could have visited, but instead we get Inquisition lackeys running around in a samey hive city.
>>565282778will give me excuses to post twink skittaris from archon
>>565299982Why are you gay?
>>565300771single childno bitchesage betterhate instagram
>>565300771raped as a child
JUST
>>565302064Huh?
>>565290729auric yeshavoc nah
>>565290729The rippergun has a couple of quirks, and if you manage to work around them, it becomes quite usable. It is generally considered to be rather bad because it fills no relevant niche, isn't particularly accurate, a huge ammo hog, and kinda only works with ogryn's worst ability PBB. Everything it does as a generic secondary weapon is grossly outclassed by several other weapons, so being a dedicated PBB gun is the only thing it has left, and it isn't particularly great at that either.For context, you need to be aware that we have one very VERY highly autistic dysfunctional troll who keeps shilling the ripper as his autistic hyperfixation, with nonstop lies, false-flags, and inability to do math. Most of the shit he says gets constantly debunked, and he has hours-long melties over it.
>>565302064who are these randos and why should I care
Castigator with arbites shotgun has gotta be the most braindead but most fun shit in this game and it annoys me that fatshart has not buffed veteran shotguns to the same level.
>>565303626Redditor's stance is also useless dogshit at literally everything that isn't buffing shotguns.There are no "veteran shotguns", most classes have access to the combat shotguns, and they are good enough to be usable. Most builds you might use a bolt pistol on, can afford to use a combat shotgun instead, without performing worse overall, excepting builds that need their gun against monsters for some reason.
>>565302346since anon asked, i assume he's not playing h40. I'm biased, as ripper v is my most used gun. So I've had a long time to adapt and maybe that's why I don't notice these problems. I don't ever have ammo problems running it. Snipers are deleted from infinite range. Specials are instantly staggered and killed 1-2 bursts. Can annihilate gunner shooter gangs. Has ok monstrosity dps for emergencies. Basically it does everything I need. Everything else gets punched. Kickback struggles against snipers at long range. Twin linked stubber is worse in every way. Single stubber is good but it's so slow. Pull out, aim, single shots. Rumbler feels OP so I don't use it. Grenade gauntlet i haven't used in ages so i dunno. I've heard good things.
>>565304473>Kickback struggles against snipers at long range.Only if you build it wrong. It can reliably one-shot snipers some 90% of the time if you build it right, even at 70+ meters. The only hurdle is getting a single pellet to hit, which might require that you aim instead of hip fire. This does require a very dedicated anti-sniper setup (unarmored, specialists, blaze away, some +% ranged damage nodes) but you're also one-shotting every other disabler in the process except mutants, who get the rock anyway.>Twin linked stubber is worse in every way. It doesn't use retarded amounts of ammo killing enemies at range. You would know that if you actually stopped to crouch, brace and burst fire the thing, but this is far beyond the capabilities of some low IQ retard.>Single stubber is good but it's so slow. Pull out, aim, single shots. It's mediocre and worse than the kickback in auric. Its literal only niche is ammo efficiency, which is irrelevant unless you're in havoc, where it underperforms anyway because it's ONLY useful at shooting faraway enemies.>Rumbler feels OPThe only correct thing you've said so far>Grenade gauntlet i haven't used in ages so i dunno. I've heard good things.It's quite good. Think of it as ogryn's revolver with weird projectiles, and half-decent damage against monsters with the melee. The main thing that makes it useful is the ability to apply brittleness at will.
>>565304094>Redditor's stance is also useless dogshit at literally everything that isn't buffing shotguns.I like it in auric with the mk3 it does disgusting damage but it's extremely ammo hungry. I wouldn't bring it to havoc because of this but they haven't added anything new to havoc since it released so who cares.
>>565305265Yeah but stance is completely unnecessary for the shotgun to rape everything. Just pathing through the reload speed aura is virtually free since Imposing Force is such a good skill that most builds should take it, damage aura is additive and doesn't math well, and dog TDR is pretty bad. Judicious Efficiency is only 1 extra point spent, which is less investment overall than stance. Forceful TA gives more than enough cleave so you need neither the +25% on the left, nor the +20% strength to just obliterate everything.And then you just invest in melee damage and put one point in BTL and you also have a build that rapes everything in melee, with an actually useful ability that does useful things.
>>565305507>Yeah but stance is completely unnecessary for the shotgun to rape everything.It just makes it better with 7.5% damage every elite/special that stacks 6 times along with reloading itself for every range kill you get. This event has been very fun but even before it was great at nuking everything but crushers. Dog is dogshit without the dogwhistle mod but even then lonewolf is better but that gets boring.
>>565305895>but even then lonewolf is betterOh you should've just said that you're hopelessly retarded from the start, sorry for engaging you in discussion.
MECHANUSSY WHENWHEN
>>565305953Dog is great but compared to infinite landmines it's worse.
>>565306118Mines are good, but if you need one every 90 seconds you are severely retarded. LW mines is a crutch build for bad players. You should be ashamed if you bring this into auric. It only has a place in the havoc 20s trench where all the players are genuinely so retarded that they couldn't function without it.The dog functions perfectly fine without remote det, and mines function perfectly fine without LW, so using both together is more than viable, I would even consider it optimal in havoc 40. You shouldn't need mines in auric at all. LW nades is pretty good here at least.
>>565306283I don't bring mines into auric it's very obvious the dog is superior in auric but in havoc I would prefer having access to the ability to shut down enemies in havoc 40 because I never trust psyker players not to fuck up at the worst possible times.
>>565306696You should have more than enough lockdown between flashbang and shotgun stun rounds. If you need more, you run BTL. If you need more yet, you run BTL with the CDR node. If you need even more, you can consider running EO for CDR, but that really starts getting into overkill.If you ever feel like you need more than the 2 mines you get from a grenade pickup, that's an obviously failed DPS check and a team composition issue. Hell, even just deploying nuncio is a huge DPS gain for your entire team.
Why are those cunts on the darktide forum always bitching about nerfing everything?
>>565307712>nerfs in PvE gamesCrab Mentality.
>>565307779>>nerfs in PvE gamesNecessary considering the constant retarded power creep.>but muh power fa-lower the difficulty, faggot
>>565307871Crab Mentality.
>>565307939Crab mentality implies dragging others down and not wanting them to succeed out of jealousy. I'm winning havoc 40s. What's your excuse?
>>565308010Why are you supporting nerfs when you are already at the top of the game?
>>565308082How completely, utterly braindead retarded do you have to be to even mental gymnastics yourself into this position you literal sub-human?>NOOOO DON'T NERF IN A PVE GAMEOkay, this results in a completely solved hard-meta objectively correct easy mode, and lets retards progress undeservedly through the difficulties.>why would you want nerfs in a PVE game???Because the things that are strong, are too strong. If you pass the knowledge check of what's actually good, the game is too easy.>NOOOOOO don't nerf my toys!!!Try not being completely retarded and formulating a reasonable build, even off-meta shit is completely viable if you just play well. If you're one of those literal retards who cried and shidded and pissed everywhere over the absolute nothingburger plasma gun nerfs, you should consider neckrope.I obviously also want buffs to the useless dogshit that is BAG/VAG, half of ogryn's arsenal, etc. and changes to carapace to make otherwise dogshit weapons actually usable for once. Stop being brown and tribalistic you fucking monkey.
>>565308327Calm down.
>>565308370Kill yourself faggot
>>565308412Stop having a crab melty
he angy
ITS THE KRIEGGERS AGAIN
>>565290729It's only good for killing hordes at close range. That's it.Yeah, you can put blaze away + inspiring barrage on it, with around 66% ammo stat (doing that lets you proc both blessings on instantly on 1 burst), but that is largely a meme and not that worth it imo. You can do it, it's fine, but nothing amazing.If you want pure damage instead, you just put blaze away + fire frenzy or blaze away + cavalcade on it and then dump Stability as low as possibly you can go.And you specifically dump Stability, because Swiggers can't code and for some retarded reason ripper guns have an inverted stability stat.Ie. higher the bar, HIGHER your recoil.TL;DRIt's a 3.6/5 gun, not great, not terrible. But it is not something I'd bring to havoc. I have done some H40s with the ripper and beat the mission, but you can feel how under powered the gun is.
>>565307871>power creepSo after constantly nerfing, has the Havoc difficulty actually gone down? No?Before you start making any retarded assumptions, i was back at assignment rank 40 on the very fucking day of the updateOne of my greatest pleasures is letting those low rank faggots join my havoc, only to be pitifully slaughtered in an instantIf the player base likes nerfs, then I enjoy watching them get tormented
>>565308327Bodied that freak
>>565309317Havoc has indeed become easier with every major update, barring some outliers, like untested bullshit plasma gunners instagib wallbanging you (lmao) which got fixed, and rotten armor composition checking 90% of shitters making finding a viable team really annoying.Even with the massive nerfs zealot has received, a semi-optimized team has still become stronger. Psyker received massive undeserved buffs, the veteran rework was an overall buff (and a large one), scum as a class is just stupidly overpowered in the hands of a good player in a good lineup, and believe it or not, the recent ogryn change was a substantial buff. I do think ogryn overall deserved the buff, but ogryn was already extremely valuable in havoc, and now got even stronger. I won't hear your retard cope about ogryn being bad, this isn't true. China loves to win at any cost, even if it means optimizing the fun out of the game, and their parties frequently have ogryns and smoke grenades in them. Do the math on that.The things that are strong are too strong and need to be toned down slightly. I don't know what traumatized you faggots into thinking that nerfs need to completely invalidate a thing, but this obviously isn't true. Darktide needs small patches with short time intervals doing small number tweaks. Slightly less ammo on the overpowered guns, maybe some damage changes without invalidating breakpoints. Slight buffs on the weaker shit. There needs to be some kind of balance parity, instead of having a heavy sword + vigilant autogun build being useless dogshit compared to power sword + boltgun.
Only things that devs need to do to fix the ripper guns is to do>give them tighter spread, both on hipfire and brazed so more pellets can hit on target currently the reticle blooms so much that only the 1st shot's pellets are on target, the pellets from the other 2 shots from the burst just go everywhere else because reticle blooms a retarded amount>buff the Unyielding ADM from 0.5 to 1.0 or 1.1, so the guns can work as proper close range monster shreddersNo need to touch ammo imo
>>565310208>>buff the Unyielding ADM Or give them access to proper brittleness blessings, not the dogshit meme that is can opener, which is a relic from eons past where a single crusher showing up in malice difficulty was a big deal.Reminder that some of the biggest balance issues are blessing related. The knife doesn't break the game, Untranny Strike does. Ogryn weapons don't break the game, Skullcrusher does. This goes the opposite way, too, with weapons that have no good blessings just being worse off for it. Look at ogryn's cleaver, it has basically nothing.
>>565310208I want just one variant to let me squeeze off single shots in even one fire mode, fuck being forced to burst-fire with a shotgun
why is vermintide 2 full of russians?
>>565311410Every game that runs on potatoes and has frequent dirt cheap sales is completely infested with turd-worlders. Russians also have humongous cognitive dissonance with their culturally simultaneous superiority/inferiority complex so they're extremely insecure and need to feel superior somehow, but keep getting their assholes gaped in PVP games, so they flock to PVE games instead where they can run knife zigger and cope that the team sucks when they run 3 rooms ahead and die.
Thats a lot of hate.
>>565310525>Or give them access to proper brittleness blessingsThere really aren't any good ones, or even ones that'd make sense on the ripper gun from theme sense. Can Opener is the only one really.
>>565312329Just combine Full Bore (if all pellets hit the same enemy) and Shattering Impact (the target receives stacking brittleness) and name it something else.
>>565279496Among swedish devs both of those are still better than Starbreeze
>>565312462Granted.New Blessing for the Ogryn's Ripper Guns.Having seen player feedback regarding the Ripper Guns not feeling as good as they should when killing armored enemies, we have decided to Ripper Guns a new Signature Blessing, and have removed Can Opener.Hard Impact Rounds:When landing all pellets on enemy, the target receives 15% brittleness for 5 seconds. 10 second cool down.
>>565305034None of this nitpicking disproves my point. The point is that the Ripper V solves every problem you'd need a gun to solve in Auric, it does it well, and it certainly does it better than the twin linked. That means it's good. So drop the attitude.
Darktide EU server is fucking shit man. Play too early and you end up with French neets (arabs). Play too late and you end up with russian retards
>>565313529NA hours and you just get globies and squeakers. BTW people actually make characters on consoles because character creation is a big part of a lot of console games. I use this to profile globies and it fucking works.
>>565313509I'm just going to call you a retard from now on because we both know nothing is going to change your opinion about your beloved, precious, autistic obsession.
>>565313694>uuuuh uuuh retard!concession accepted
>>565313678wtf are you talking about
>>565313935No point trying to reason with someone who didn't arrive at their conclusion by reasoning in the first place. You love your gun because you love your gun, and are trying to cope up reasons why it's good, not the other way around.Shut the fuck up, rippertard.
Far Far West
>>565314034It can't be treated, it's terminal.
>>565314082Wouldn't say I love the gun, it just works. It reliably deals with every threat I need it to. That's my reasoning. This is very simple. Do you have an actual point or did you just feel like being a dick today?
>>565314134We call that California.
>>565304094>20% strength is useless>walking over fire is useless>stopping 15 bursters conga line is useless>tanking 40 gunners is useless
>>565318063Good job, anon, you identified the things that redditor's stance does.Now do your vocab lesson on what "opportunity cost" means, do the math on flamer/bomber resist curios, and watch the dodge/slide gameplay of someone who didn't get stuck in damnation.
>>565318310>opportunity costYou get a powerful functional ability for 1 talent point, when you need to invest 3 points into BTL to just make it work, and then are locked into one keystone to make it good? And you do all that to be able to stun enemies on a class that has a dedicated stun blitz with a weapon that has dedicated stun special. Which you also use because you're retarded.>do the math on flamer/bomber resist curiosoops, they do fuckall>watch the dodge/slide gameplay>he thinks it counters gunner spammaybe you should stop outing yourself as a malice shitter when you talk shit
>>565319128>you need to invest 3 points into BTL to just make it work,retard>locked into one keystone to make it goodretard>oops, they do fuckallretard>>he thinks it counters gunner spamYes, it works up to havoc 40, maybe you should learn how to play you bonafide fucking mongoloid>redditor's stance babby getting defensiveI am genuinely impressed by how fucking stupid some of you retards are.
>>565319314>AIEEE LOOK IM CROWD CONTROOOOLINGdedicated gamer girlfriend class was a mistake
>>565319569>Auric Storm Survivor getting uppityPipe down, shitter
>>565280885I don't know, you tell me.
>>565319624I will decline every BTL shitter starting now, you don't deserve to be carryied
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/845pretty cool
>>565319779>immediately projects le carry>implying I use BTLAnon you lost, stop humiliating yourself further. Nobody is joining the havoc 26 you're hardstuck at anyway.
>>565298674Crit does exponential damage so the distribution does matter. We aren't talking statistics class here faggot, this is about actual gameplay purposes
>>565289739Mods, sure. I usually see like 10,000-30,000 online in crime.net over the course of the day. EGS shit makes connecting to half the lobbies impossible which is retarded but there are still players (even new players) and I guess actively updated mods.Starbreeze Swedes abandoned the game and then let some ex-modders called Sidetrack work on the game for bugfixes and shit. Those guys seem to be legit. There's a new PD2 DLC weapon pack coming apparently because PD3 is still a dead game and SBZ can't figure out how to fix it. The impression is that they almost abandoned PD3 too because they fired a huge chunk of staff and they're just coasting along with no income or something. Nobody knows how they're still afloat or what their current projects really are.
>>565319867of course you use BTL, do you think it's hard to spot you when you can't stop attention whoring?
>>565320979meds
>>565309146>It's only good for killing hordes at close range. That's it.That's not at all what it's even good at lol. It sucks at close range hordesit's a dot application machine for ranged gunlugger ogryn which means you want to be as far as possible to hit minimum pellet on as much shit as possible. This generally holds true for melee builds too (the minimum pellet part) but the wep is too ammo hungry to really shoot a lot. It swaps quick though and it has the second best range in the ogryn arsenal so you can reliably quickswap to kill any special. The nice thing is how it has a big mag so you can kill like 8 specials before needing to reload which basically means you solo special waves in auricsI get people are overhyping this weapon out of a need to be hipsters, but if you're just spreading misinfo that doesn't help at all
>>565321412>it has the second best range in the ogryn arsenalCan you please stop being confidently wrong and learn when to shut the fuck up?
>>565321634Don't sperg out, use your words. It kills distant snipers better than the kickback and the grenade gauntlet has a hardcapped maximum range. Only the heavy stubber beats it
>>565304094Don't the combat shotguns have really good ADM against unyielding?
>>565321992>It kills distant snipers better than the kickbackAgain, stop being confidently wrong. The kickback requires only minor investment, and one-shots snipers at infinite range as long as a singular pellet hits. This just means you have to aim and put your crosshair on the sniper by like 50 meters, or if it's weirdly positioned behind cover, but every gun suffers this. In every other scenario you just one-tap them from hipfire. This also includes trappers.>the grenade gauntlet has a hardcapped maximum rangeSame for the rumbler. And this isn't the biggest problem with both weapons, it's actually their inability to penetrate fences. But with the GG, snipers are literally the only problem. It pulls out faster than most other weapons, and one-taps everything it needs to. It just has a learning curve, and I don't like it very much, but its strengths kind of shit over most other secondaries that aren't the rumbler.>Only the heavy stubber beats itThe heavy stubber is an extremely overrated, mediocre-at-best weapon, and only viable for its ammo economy.
>>565322046I believe some of them do, but none of them can compare to a Puncture bolt pistol consistently hitting headshots, the damage output is actually quite impressive.The closest you can get is bleed blessed burn shotgun, but even that is a little impractical with how much time so spend loading special shells to keep the burn up. Just magdumping a bistol into a monster's weakspot tends to work better.They're fine though. Good enough to be viable in havoc.
>>565322363>confidently wrongIronic
>>565322514>retard can't build the kickback correctlyGood lord please just kill yourself already.+10% ranged damage boost and any temp buff (No Hurting Friends, Bash and Blast, probably even Reloaded and Ready) with this setup are enough to one-tap snipers no matter the range. No Hurting Friends goes on every build that wants to pretend to be viable anyway. Bash and Blast is a cheap pickup if you're taking the rending, which is good on shield builds since like 1/3 of your damage is bleed anyway, and this really helps against armor.
Does anyone play The Isle? I'm having fun as a croc want croc bros.
>>565313678>BTW people actually make characters on consoles because character creation is a big part of a lot of console gamesYou mean that console players LARP a lot?
>>565322786Feel free to show off your results at 37m. Until then we both know why I posted a pic of how they compare and you just continue to pretend it's not right.
>>565319128>when you need to invest 3 points into BTL to just make it workYou only need to invest 1 point into BTL and it works perfectly for it is meant to do.Most people put the 3 points into BTL PURELY so they can spam the fuck out of it and stunlock entire hordes of elites. And people specifically want that because having the ENTIRE SCREEN stunlocked permanently makes EVERYONE in the team safer.The enemies cannot hurt you when they are hopelessly scrambling on the floor.While Castigators only works on yourself and only helps you, not your team. Yeah, you survived those 50 bursters and 6 gorillion crushers, but your team certainly didn't. And now you're alone, with another wave of 6 gorillion crushers coming and your ability is on cool down.
>>565319779>carryiedBrown
Slaanesh update when?
>>565322489I wish Shock Trooper applied to the Accatran shotgun so you could keep blasting fire shells as long as you keep getting crits.
>>565323686>show off your results at 37mI'll do you one better.>inb4 MALICE MALICE YOU RECORDED THIS IN MALICEI can't get healthbars to show at 50 meters lol if you weren't so brown and retarded you'd test this yourself and come to the same conclusion.
>>565325219>blaze away stackedYeah nice retard, that's not gonna be the case when swapping to kill specials on a melee build
>>565327603>>blaze away stackedNope, if you actually paid attention you would see that I sprint cancelled to explicitly prevent Blaze Away from stacking up.
>>565324649except total war what games had Slaneesh stuff?
>>565327684Just show the whole screen man, I don't want to engage with these brownoid slapfights with you
>>565327852Test it yourself you fucking triple retard, holy shit I've even given you the build.Are you the same nigger who had an hours long meltdown over No Stopping Me or something?
>yoooo dude this weapon can do this and that, it can one-shot this and that>go to auric psykhanium>it doesn't>double check talents, blessings, perks>it doesn'tI swear I'm going to looney asylum with this game, it has 4 god damn years of outdated information, I'm so fucking tired of trying to filter the useful bits out of this cesspool of worthless advises that were never useful to begin with, I've never seen such a retarded trainwreck, it's like the devs redid the whole damn game 50 times AFTER the release, it's like early access game except even early access games normally don't get changed this much.
>>565327969>weapon deals 98% damage to an enemy>class has a +10% damage talent that cannot trigger in the psykhanium>???You are just retarded, anon.
>>565327956You have the whole uncropped footage just fucking post it instead of doing these brown histrionics
>>565325219Is that the wep customization mod?
>>565328207Active buffs are Bash & Blast and No Hurting Friends btw. You just need to turn on AI and whack some enemies. Both have virtually 100% uptime at max stacks if you just fucking play the game.>>565328358No, it's a modified version of VeilShield that also makes your gun transparent.
>>565328648Interesting how you cropped out the HP bar still. Is it because it would show it's malice?
>>565328758There literally is no HP bar at 50 meters. I could go back and post an entire uncropped, unfiltered recording of selecting auric in the meatgrinder and you niggers would rather hallucinate that I've somehow jumped through 20 different hoops to fake it, before admitting that you're too fucking stupid to build the kickback correctly.Kill yourself.
>>565328648You can achieve the same thing on the mk5 ripper without reloading between shots and without having to invest in 2 dogshit talents just to achieve it (I'm not talking about no hurting friends)
>>565285594How much content does the game have I want to play it but my friend is weary he will get bored after a few hours.
Time for another round of questions.Heavy Stubber.
>>565328957>just use a useless dogshit gun instead of spending 2 talent points to make a gun viable, on a class with a massive abundance of talent pointsMental institution, now.
>>565328910Your own HP bar, obviously. >>565329080Good weapon but it's swaps so slow it forces you to play melee ogryn differently if you choose to bring it. No more quickswapping to blast specials. The latest round of HP buffs to enemies destroyed many breakpoints on it though so it's not as good as it used to be, but still alright
>>565329203>stalkertard baiting for a self-doxNice try retard
>>565329170>this gun that can achieve the same thing with 2 less talent points and faster? Bad actually. Why? Because it's bad. It just is! Ok>melee ogryn>massive abundance of talent pointslol whatPost your tree I wanna see what you sacrificed to get these 2 talents. It's gonna be something like no brace toughness regen or skipping extremely strong talents for melee like hard knocks
>>565327823Dawn of war? Never played it but I think it had some.
>>565329582>Hard Knocks on a Skullcrusher buildYeah I'm done engaging with browngroids. Get someone else to spoonfeed you.
>>565329453You can tell someone is lying when they make completely illogical excuses for things. So you can't show the HP bar because of the information that isn't shown on the HP bar? You could just not show the name and portrait.
>>565329790>and you niggers would rather hallucinate that I've somehow jumped through 20 different hoops to fake it, before admitting that you're too fucking stupid to build the kickback correctly.
>>565329729It literally stacks multiplicatively with skullcrusher. What exactly are you trying to imply?
>>565329948>more overconfident liesIt literally does not do that. All damage taken buffs stack additively with other damage taken buffs, you fucking retard.
>>565329930You literally went out of your way to not show it. It's right there in your footage, but you're refusing to show it. One can only deduce there is a reason for that. I think I got you by the balls. If you think about it, if I was wrong, you would be able to absolutely btfo me by just showing it. I'm supposed to believe a combative sperg like you wouldn't take that opportunity? You want to go easy on me and leave me the benefit of the doubt so I can delude myself into thinking I won, even though you could prove me wrong 100% without a doubt? Sorry man but I called your bluff.
>>565330151>writes an entire essay just to avoid admitting he's wrongThe proof is right there, you pathetic faggot.
>>565330119Wrong. Why do you keep using the term "confidently wrong" and "confident lies" when you're spreading misinfo? It's very annoying when terms that identify a problem get so popular that the people who perpetuate the problem start using them. It's like how all indians screech izzat now when you show them facts.
>>565330281No. You specifically went out of your way to show it outside of HP bar range, going even as far as to spawn the sniper on a column to make sure, instead of just showing the 37m as requested. Additionally you will not show the player HP bar despite doing so actually proving me wrong. Painfully obvious what's going on. If you weren't a dishonest faggot setting up misinfo, you'd just btfo me right here. But you won't, because I'm right
>>565330384>Why do you keep using the term "confidently wrong" and "confident lies" when you're spreading misinfo?Because your picture is misinfo.>Hard Knocks is _modifier>scripts/utilities/attack/damage_calculation.lua>local damage_taken_modifiers = damage_taken_modifier + melee_damage_taken_modifier - 1>+>plus>additive>modifierBut nice try faggot.
>>565331191Anon... skullcrusher in a damage_taken_modifier. You're trying hard to spread misinfo. Skullcrusher is damage_vs_staggered.
>>565327823Not many. >>565305987I wish they would look like this.
>>565331413>in aisn't a*pic related
Twin linked heavy stubber.
>>565331725Gorgonum my buddy
Its here
>>565331191>>565331413>>565331623>Hard Knocks is melee_damage_taken_modifier (damage_taken_stat_buffs)>Skullcrusher applies damage_vs_staggered (damage_stat_buffs)>damage_taken_stat_buffs multplies against damage_stat_buffsKuli's guide is actually correct, but the Swedish spaghetti and meatballs code makes it nightmarish to verify the correct answer.
>>565331725Is fun in Mortis. Maybe in regular missions too, but I like shooting a lot.
>>565332389Are we sure Kuli isn't actually confidently wrong? Can someone measure the confidence levels
>>565332380Why can't darktide have devs like this? Or at least be able to stick to a roadmap.
New Weapon - Bolt Carbine SidearmA new secondary weapon will be added: the Secondary Carbine SMG, a close-range carbine with extremely rapid fire. Available for Bulwark and Assault.
>lvl400 Chainaxe with only lvl3 Bloodletter does more special heavy attack damage than lvl500 Eviscerator unless Blodthirsty was activatedI feel tricked and betrayed.
>>565332617>Why can't darktide have devs like this?Sweden.>Or at least be able to stick to a roadmap.Last time they tried, they failed to deliver the announcement of an announcement (not even the actual thing)!
>vortex beast can show up on siege modeits so fucking over holy shit
>>565332389>Kuli's guide is actually correct, but the Swedish spaghetti and meatballs code makes it nightmarish to verify the correct answer.So next time instead of spreading misinfo, check the guide where the work has already been done, or properly do the work yourself. Don't be a confident retard when you should know better that the code is nightmarish to interpret. This is a layer deeper than people taking Fatshark tooltips at face value, but inherently the same kind of retardation.
>>565332794Yes I know they failed miserably. It's why I brought that up. Still funny how they IMMEDIATELY failed to stick to the roadmap.
>>565332657I'm not familiar with such a weapon on any official model. Games Workshop's fury will be roused
>>565332887>everyone is the same personWhy are you lashing out at everyone jfc
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/387-april-community-updateUpdate seems genuinely good wtf.
>>565332380>Ultragrind ordeals>Finish an operation 100 times >One shot bosses Hello uninstall wizard.
>>565333248If you're not him, then just ignore it as it's not aimed at you. Anonymous posting in a nutshell. He'll see it, and he'll feel bad, as he should
>>565333301>new operation on the typical tyranid planet>chaos enemiesit's so fucking over
>white scars chain sword>blood angels power axeIm going to cum
>>565332363Only the Achlys doesn't feel like shit to me
>>565334070The axe looks nice
>>565332380>>565332473Bit disappointing after Tranny Hylia claimed 12 pages of material.
Ripper Gun.
>>565332617>Why can't darktide have devs like this? Trust me, DT has more desirable devs>Or at least be able to stick to a roadmap.lmaoThis is the reworked roadmap because they're already horribly late on the things they promised in the previous version. Patch 13 should've been out two months ago according to that one. The DT devs can at least be trusted to give some sort of token apology, these guys will just silently miss their own deadlines and then release these new roadmaps like the last one wasn't a complete disaster. I can't really trust them to deliver on everything that is in the list for patch 13, let alone for patch 14.
>>565334070When will darktide get power axes? I'm starting to feel like we got a raw deal woth these swedes. How hard can it be to model a weapon, make a moveset, put damage, stagger, and armor values on each attack and give it blessings?
Fart Fart West
>deranged anti rippergun sperg takes a fake malice video to prove the kickback is better>then immediately starts spreading misinfo about how skullcrusher worksYep, it's always the "WATCH OUT THERE'S A SCHIZO AND HE DOES X AND Y" people who are actually the deranged schizos
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/845Meanwhile, Darktide modders having better ideas then the actual devs...
>>565332657Seems interesting enough but I don't think those classes would benefit much from the carbine. Maybe it changed but last time I played you wanted something that could deal with patrol callers and flying enemies quickly with good ammo efficiency.
>>565335295Honestly I think that's incredibly pointless but it is kinda neat looking I guessCall me when someone makes a simple lightweight mod to change ironsights on weapons
>>565335528That fucking german faggot will never understand that we just want sights on weapons and not shit like a flashlight energy bar or a fingerless glove metter
>>565335737I kinda understand it because he just wants to add shit and has fun doing it, but at the same time if he wasn't a faggot he wouldn't package it all together
>>565333419>>565334830Kek that’s just fucking comical
>>565335295just the fact that theyre holding their weapons make it cooler than the vanilla selection screen
>>565335295>giga pig>havoc-forged but no true survivor>despite most likely using 30 different cheats>that weapon selection
>>565285594Hoping they add some more maps and maybe a 3rd faction down the line, would love to see a Maruader faction with some Wild Wild West inspired stuff.
when did smegmarine general get rolled into this one
>>565333301They usually SEEM goodWe don't know how half-assed everything will be on released, or what new bugs they'll add to linger.>>565333419Not a chance they let us keep more operation clears than the 10 we can confirm from regular ordeals, btw. So no matter how many times you've already cleared them, I'm betting you'll be asked to clear all of them a minimum of 90 more times.
>>565338623Over the last couple weeks
>>565338623General died because Saber had been radio silent for over two months. This community update is the first piece of news since Techmarine.
>>565339325>died because Saber had been radio silent for over two monthBy that logic Darktide general should've been in the fucking grave ten times already.
>>565332657I wish Heavy would have those. I never understand why saber devs have to be limited to only assault and bulwark.>>565332380salamander champion pack 2 is going to be heavy for obvious reasons.
>>565339541>salamander champion pack 2 is going to be heavy for obvious reasons.I fucking hope so. Heavy has the worst cosmetics out of all the classes.
>>565339618You and me both, brother.
>>565339529Darktide is a more complete game with more replayability and more things to discuss. SM2 is a lot simpler.
keyboard borken, cant swap weaponplay ogrynis fine
>>565340126yeah I'll never understand people loving the "press X to awesomesauce"
>>565340235>cant swap weaponYour mouse wheel, bro?
>>565337801I look like this>>565338727>or what new bugs they'll add to linger.Bugs are still an issue with them? Jesus
>>565340328its borken tooI wanted to go to town tomorrow and buy a new mouse + keyboard but I forgor everything is closed tomorrow
>>565340462go today?
>6 new heroics for patch 14>ABR>SBR>Carbine>Plasma Incinerator>Melta>Pyreblaster>Occulus Carbine>Inferno Pistol>Neo Volkite Pistol>Las Fusil>Multimelta>PyrecannonHmm yes very nice "all weapons will have 2 heroic variants." Maybe in 3 more years.
>>565340789its too late everything is closed, and Im already in my pyjamas :(
For me? Flame Sword Melee Psyker
>>565341023is that the 1h or 2h sord?
>>565308327Objectively correct takes but HR wants to hear them in person for some reason.
>>565340262It's the secret sauce, not the whole recipe. The core gameplay is simple but solid 80% of the time, then you get hit with some combat bug that interrupts the flowand you lose half your health bar and then you get the animation to look at to break the monotony. Works extra well against frustrating enemies honestly, which the game has a lot of. I dunno how there is such a discrepancy between the animation team and the rest of the devs, because the animators really don't ever miss even as the enemy designers decide that the biovore is a good addition to the game.
>>565334834No one knows, but probably not at this point>>565338623No news until today after I think a couple of months of silence. So they couldn't sustain a general and are back here
I know that the Power Sword's the best generalist but what's the best horde clearing weapon for a veteran?
>>565342032shredder grenades
>>565342032It's still power sword.Falchion is decent against trash and mixed hordes. Heavy sword is very good against trash and unarmored mixed hordes.Combat axe is probably really good too but it so aggressively bores me to death that I haven't used it in years.
>>565340382>Bugs are still an issue with them?You bet. Parrying/blocking still regularly fails out of nowhere, especially on sloped terrain or against terminus enemies, and both assault and vanguard are held back massively by extreme jank and unreliable refunds on their movement abilities.
>>565340235>>565340462so let me get this straightyour keyboard and mouse are fuckedbut only the letter "q", numbers 1 and 2, and the wheel on your mouseand you also can't figure out how to re-bind the weapon swap key to tab or something
>>565343242a lot of keys are fuckedright clic as well
>>565335528>Call me when someone makes a simple lightweight mod to change ironsights on weaponsNever fucking ever.
>>565343627They seem to be typing just fine to me.
>lmao fuck you our game isn't for friendless incelsbased or cringe?
>>565345032Who?
>>565345150far far west
>>565345150Fart Fart West
>>565345032Based because unlike Darkshite you can actually play FFW solo, or at least you could in demo. Imagine playing with randoms, ever.
>>565342337The combat axe is indeed excellent, it's also among the best scum melee weapons but as you said, it's aggressively boring.
>>565342032A shovel? I thought it was some supermeta or something. I mean, for special snowflakes or people with dignity who want to use virtually anything that is not DS.
>Space Marine 2 update schedule and 3 announcement>Total War: 40k announced and shown today>Fatshark: nothingI LOVE SWEDEN.
>>565346617>>Fatshark: nothingThey actually did post this on youtube (it's just a text post ??? apparently that place is facebook lite now), which is just a misleading picture of an arbitrator using the wrong weapon with the shield, and making people cope for a new mark lolhttps://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxH_OcaR6L6f_k2JRHYP4DYzausFHsYoPd
>>565346970Posts like these on Youtube have been a thing for a while now. Hard to miss too. What rock have you been living under?
>>565347820>interacting with youtube as if it were a community platformI use the video platform to watch videos
>>565347820was new to me too. I don't give a shit about weird auxillary social media features of video websites
>>565346970>which is just a misleading picture of an arbitrator using the wrong weapon with the shield, and making people cope for a new mark lolIt is Copium but I do wish it becomes real.That'd be the Dominator Maul + Assault shield combo. Dominator mauls are power mauls that arbites use.Also honestly speaking, pics like these is how Fatshark should tease some up-coming content.Like this image here, it would work perfectly as a teaser for the new updateAnd yes, you now also realized the Arbites "shock maul" is actually wrong, it's not a shock maul it's supposed to be a power maul actually.
Not sure how to feel about Space Marine 2 deciding an eternal grind to unlock cosmetics was the way forward, but at least it's not dead.
>>565350282Welcome to Darktide.
>>565350282Welcome to DRG.
>>565350282Welcome to Firebreak
>>565342032Tactical axe is often overlooked. Put brutal momentum and headtaker on it and watch the trash melt. It doesn't really need much investment to make it viable(precision strikes is the only thing you'll really want for it as it is a finesse weapon, but you should usually take that anyway since it benefits ranged headshots too), and it's also highly mobile(only knife and dueling sword are quicker, but neither is as good at horde clearing) which makes it pair well with low mobility guns. A lot of other melee weapons will feel like crap to use without trench fighter drill, but the tac axe's default attack speed is so fast that you can forgo it, which is another reason it's a good pick if you don't want to spend points on melee talents.
>>565353412>it's a good pick if you don't want to spend points on melee talents.I'd disagree on that front. Tac axe is a finesse weapon, if you're not investing in crit and finesse talents, it'll feel pretty weaksauce at anything that isn't just clearing trash. It wants about as much investment as the dueling sword.
>>565353617Honey, I'm replying to a post specifically asking about horde clearing weapons instead of generalist weapons.
>>565341707>>565339529Just goes to show how strong Darktide is…
>>565354156Sure, and now there's a scab rager or two mixed into the 20 poxwalkers coming your way, and your axe is going plink plink plink plink and doing fucking nothing. Get out of malice.
>>565348014>>565347931>>565346970i know about it but it’s such a weird feature that I can’t get used to even though it reminds me of the good ol days of G+
>>565354286Do you play with one of these? Because most of us have a second button on our mouse that allows us to perform blocks and pushes.
>>565354819where did you get a photo of my mouse...
if fatshark filters Skitussy I'm going to write a steam discussion article stating that this is kinkshaming and transphobic
I played some of Far Far West, it's fun. I hope it doesn't die before it comes out of EA.
>>565354819>mouse depicted onm the mouseClever
>>565355539I've started to treat EA as full releasesThey always end up just doing a couple free updates then leaving it alone completely. Like I'm probably not explaining what I mean well, but I think when a game is in EA, then gets a full release, and the only difference is a few content drops inbetween then it was already basically finished when it hit EA
>>565355539Mein Furher... the player count....the player count already dropped...
>>565356242By what metric has it dropped?
>>565356347the imaginary one
>>565356347People are actually retarded nowadays, they'll watch over player counts like a hawk and westerners go to sleep and chinese don't really play the game they go>AHAHAHAH IT DIE WITHIN 12 HOUR! LMAO!! AJAJAJJA!!! OH NO NO BRO'S!
>>565356072It's still going to add more content, and I dont want to eat it up too quickly.
>>565356242>>565356347>>565357292
>>565356072You're right that's the state of things with shit released in EA 99% of the time. That's not a good thing, and is a good reason to not reward them for that bullshit.
Fart Fart Westerners already coping lmao
>>565359316Somehow it seems fitting that you would complain about westerners
>>565359037I mean it kinda matters for online games.
The patch before expeditions the game ran perfectly fine but now I'm going down to 40 fps when stuff gets busy. Also is there a way to disable the crack whores drugs visual effects? It's quite hard to see a god damn thing with it active and sometimes it also causes lower frames.
>killing floor is dead>forever winter is dead>darktide is dead>helldivers is deadis it over at this point?
>>565360203Speaking of "visual effects", was it really THAT hard to make Immolation Grenade burn green or blue or anything NOT red/yellow/orange?
>>565360203>The patch before expeditions the game ran perfectly fine but now I'm going down to 40 fps when stuff gets busy.Update your video drivers, then do a full reboot. If that doesn't help, verify your files through steam, and then through the launcher both. If you use command line to skip the launcher, that's most likely the culprit, and launching the game through the launcher once should fix it.I had the same, and letting the launcher do its thing + updating drivers fixed it.The only performance drops I'm getting now are most definitely mod related.
>>565360063It doesn't if you have friends you DO have co-op friends right? That's why /copeg/ never plays together despite being the co-op general? and regardless, it's a 4 player game. 2 player fighting games thrive on sub-1k playercounts, Darktide steadily keeps around 5k despite all the fatsharking, even DRG which FFW so blatantly takes inspiration from never gets above 10k these days and was half that when it first entered early access. It's mentally ill behavior to look at a brand new game for the price of 1 (uno) darktide outfit and be afraid to pick it up because no one might be playing in 3 years.Having put 10 hours into it (1/3rd solo which is serviceable, the rest with friends) it's fun and polished. Especially liking the fast movement and spell combo system. My only potential concerns are the limited weapon pool and maps getting stale. But it's early access. Even if the devs abandon it today I think I could get ~50 hours out of it which is fine.
>>565360253>helldivers is deadWe're just looping, 60 day rebalance and bug fixes soon.
>>565361343>even DRG which FFW so blatantly takes inspiration from
>>565276106shouldn't the coop list be updated regularly then? isn't that the point of having a thread that is supposedly "non-biased"the OP can always be updated and changed via a new thread so what's the harm?
>>565360515you're colorblind if you can't tell the difference between holy flame and the crap tossed around by ch*os fucking shits
>>565361343>spoilerNTA but even my circle of 20-ish close friends consists of mostly non-gamers, casual gamers, or autism gamers that only play niche shit like rimworld. I could barely get a group of 4 together when DRG, the most casual /coopg/ game there is, was flavor of the month. We only played for some 3 weeks or so on and off, and then some other flavor of the month game came out (monhun or something, I forget) and everyone flocked to that instead. The only co-op game I can get any of them to play, sometimes, rarely, because we're adults with actual lives across 3 different time zones, is Slay the Spire 2.>It's mentally ill behavior to look at a game for the price of 1 darktide outfit and be afraid to pick it upIt's impoverished behavior, actually. Don't forget that half this general is turd-worlders. I don't THINK all games on Steam abide by regional pricing, and if this one doesn't, it might be 3 months' full wages in bumfuckistan lmfao.
>>565333301>The Iron Hands Chapter pack will include a Techmarine Champion and a skin for its signature weapon, the Omnissian Axe.All three IH anons would have been elated if they were still here. Also iirc this is the first time saber went back on something they already put in the game, the skin was supposed to be for the tactical, and the redacted chapter the lamenters.
>>565359802lol keep seething
>>565361343I do have friends but not co-op friends, none of them ever want to play anything but Marvel Rivals.
>>565361847>don't have to dig resources to complete missions outside of the tiny side activity>don't have to collect resources at all, let alone to haul them into some mule or deliver them to the exit point>don't have to worry about ammo and health which are free, while in DRG the nitra is limited, and so is time available to the player, when in FFW there's no timer>shitload of random optional activities which are the main thing you do on the map, when in DRG you can get one even and/or hidden helmet at best>every mission ends up with a boss fight when in DRG only one mission is about killing bosses, and they are the main objective0 you do through the whole mission, not the final one at the end>hand-crafted maps>no pre-defined classes>no terramorfingBut hey, it has 4 players, and objectives, and cheap low-poly flat-shaded textureless graphics, so that totally makes it DRG.
>>565362021>the skin was supposed to be for the tactical, and the redacted chapter the lamenters.ok retard
>>565363752He's wrong about the Lamenters part, but the leaked Iron Hands Champion was listed as Tactical through datamines. Same way people found out the Blood Angels Champion was Tactical and got mad.
>>565333301>every class gets to have iron halos and capesholy fuck, the drip is going to be outstanding>plasma pistol heroic>charged shot damage is increased>we're endeavoring to make heroics side grades!>somehow think there's anyone out here firing plasma pistol shots unchargedsaber...>triple block chainswordoh great, I'll just equip this on tactical and vanguard, oh no wait no I won't because the fucking parry dagger is way better>block power axe that can bank a backstephuh, okay interesting>bulwark and assault get the bolter carbine in their ranged slotthat's actually broken, what insane motherfucker approved that?
>>565362021>Also iirc this is the first time saber went back on something they already put in the game, the skin was supposed to be for the tacticalIt was a string datamine and they were dropping hints on discord that it was bullshit right after the rumors started spreading. Don't even think this is the first time they've made fake leaks. If it's just strings, it's literally nothing. Leaks aren't real until there's models.
>>565363952>He's wrong about the Lamenters partWhat? Was it a ruse by the leaker anon?
>>565364895Lamenters is just a cosmetic pack like the upcoming Raptors one, it was never redacted. It'll be Y3.
So... when's this update dropping for SM2? Everybody's hype but I ain't seeing shit about a date. Am I being a blind silly cunt?
>>565365191June/July
>>565364696>>every class gets to have iron halos and capes>holy fuck, the drip is going to be outstandingAnd then there's me, removing the halo from my heavy>>bulwark and assault get the bolter carbine in their ranged slot>that's actually broken, what insane motherfucker approved that?That's not the carabine, that's going to be a separate pistol. but yeah, it's going to be ok in pts and nerfed to be usesless on release because grigorenko hates both assault and bulwark
>>565364970Go figure
>>565365191Q2So end of summer probably>>565364696The update seems pretty big for cosmetics for sure. I noticed the MKV style and MKVI style leg parts for the accolade shop as well, which will be hella nice. I'm just dreading the parts of the update we aren't seeing yet.
>1 boss>fast chargeBoring game.
>>565355539It depends entirely on updates if they drop the ball and add no content it will wither and die in a month.They need to stick to the roadmap.
>running zealot martyrdom>teamate drops a medcrate in the elevator
>>565368498*med stimms u*
>>565361614lol>>565362927yup. we both need better friends.
>>565359037i look like this and do this
This helmet has got to be the best thing I ever spent aquilas on. It goes great with so many things it's unreal>wide variety of penance cosmetics including the havoc armor, the black expedition armor, and the dark red penance armor sets>the deluxe cosmetics>the twitch set(I ain't wearing no "peesash" on my head, no sir)>the Moebian 21st armor that PC players got for free>the actual set it's part of>various cosmetics from the commissary>and even some of the prisoner garbpretty much my entire Ogryn wardrobe is carried by this one helmet
>>565369601Ah yes, the Scoreboardfag helmet
>>565361343>spoilerMy friends are the worst kind of gamer friends where they want to buy a new FOTM game every two weeks, play it once, and then never touch it again. Nobody ever wants to sit down and play a game fully and/or learn the mechanics and/or git gud. They're just full-blown ADHD fags about it even though they don't have ADHD. They just treat games like they're a one-time movie showing or something.I on the other hand have my autistic need to 100% every game but I'm willing to compromise where I don't mind picking up a game if we play a game fully to see what it has to offer and shit. You know, spend more than 2-4 hours on it. But they never budge. So I don't play with them much anymore other than D&D. Can't find other gamer friends either because 99% of the ones in the area play only normie shit like Candy Crush and FIFA, and the remaining 1% are ultra tryhards who can't enjoy games, just the e-peen of grinding ranked ladders in their PvP game of choice all day.
>>565369601Looks meh.I prefer the memento mori flak helmet.
>>565369601>Look at me I piggedcongrats I guess?
>>565370816Poor
Barbiefags are funny. It's a first person game so you literally play dressup for other men. Quite gay!
>>565370816I only bought the 4000 aquilas for 5€ deal and I was sitting on them for a long time.But that ogryn set was worth it, big time.
>>565356347Okay NOW it's dropping.It's over...
Funny how its always >Its the aquilas from the deluxe edition I got for sale I swear Yeah I know I held them for 3 years shut up
>>565374445>poorfag seethelole
Why do people here get mad when someone is having fun? Isn't this the coop general? Aren't we all here to support each other, and to have fun playing video games together?
fun?
catposters are huge faggots btw
funny how none of the trolls ever post their friend code to put their money where their mouth is
friend?
>>565376883because izzat
>>565376883>wtf why can't I be an unapologetic consoomer without people ribbing me lightly about it
>>565377361Rat hands typed this post
>>565376883Poor people are evil
EVERYFUCKING TIME
It’s probably been about a year since I last played Darktide, but hey, I’m still going to play on Auric. I imagine that over time, players at that difficulty must be real pros.
>>565380663pooroloids can't even afford darktide or a machine that can run it, or even food for their familieswe shouldn't be too harsh on themthey deserve our pitytheir life is hell as it is
>muh poorfags>it's only a $5 hamburger why can't you just give the Swedes money?????>why won't you buy all the skins like a good goyim????ITT: Shills and bootlickers out in full force.
>I spent real money to cosplay (badly) as my favorite ASTRA MILITARUM regiment (not supported by GW)
>>565385315You just triggered the fuck out of the poorbrowns
Can't buy True Survivor, eh?
I said I like one item from the shopwhy is that turning into a flame war
>>565386337I told you poor people are evil
Im mysterious and shit
>>565386337Just ignore the noise, these people always find things to be autistic about
cat posters are mega beasts btw>>565381028kek
>>565386337>>wtf why can't I be an unapologetic consoomer without people ribbing me lightly about it
>>565333301>new heroic plasma pistol just does more charged shot damageThat's a little underwhelming. The plasma pistol is mainly good for three things; easy CHP recovery, AoE gunstrikes, and staggering enemies trying to play keep-away with you so you can either switch to your primary and gun them down while they're stunned or close the gap for a melee fight. I don't really take the plasma pistol because of its raw damage, which is respectable already. At least the power axe and chainsword seem interesting.>"Perk Loadout: This was one of the most requested QoL features: you will now have the possibility to have up to 3 perks loadouts (in a similar way to what already exists for the weapons), for easier selection and less menu navigation. Customise a loadout linked to a weapon, and easily equip it in the Armouring Hall."Maybe I'm just a retard but the wording here is confusing me. So class perks are tied to loadouts now, that much is clear (thank God), but does this also mean weapon perks are tied to loadouts too? So can I have the block chainsword set up for the full throttle skip on one loadout and then switch to the heroic chainsword set up for double stomps in the middle of an operation?Also how will this work with prestige perks? Will I still have to deal with Versatile Precision sitting totally inert because I decided to switch off the Las Fusil in favour of the heroic BSR?Wargear being unlocked for all classes (with some exceptions) is pretty neat, although I assume a new slot won't be made for it so you won't be able to use, say, the Salamander skin cloak with the brazier on Heavy at the same time since they'd occupy the same slot. Oh well, still more customisation freedom than we have now.
QUAIL HERETICS
>>565392378You already paid for the base game, right? Some of us just pay a bit extra, to have a bit extra. So don't act so high and mighty.
>>565393536He's actually acting low and feeble
Shield rush can still permanently stun lock hellbrutes.
Why wont streamers touch Far Far West?
>>565395618Far far west was in the epstein files
>veteran with recon lasgun shout joins event mission along with a crackhead>both of them get downed every other wave of enemies because they picked the first results on youtube for their builds>all of them die on the last boss pick them all up only for all of them to die yet again>veteran complains about the event then instantly gets downed again>kill the boss with the least damage takenThe absolute state of these retards dude is playing one of the strongest classes in the game but is incapable of figuring shit out without an e-celeb telling him what build he should run.
When update?
I know I say this playing on heresy but how are people on heresy so bad>AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AN OGRYN WITH A GUN HOW CAN I KILL THIS *dies without dodging*
The darktide experience
Anyone got the new /coopg/ banner for darktide including the hive scum in it?
>>565405117Incredible.Thank you, bro.
Easiest way to get to 6000 penance points?
>>565386337I bought a burger, you bought a burger, but you spent $20 to have them put yellow paint flakes on top. You are retarded.
>>565407456You might actually have to play the game
>>565409928That can't be, I need the rewards to play the game, I can't play the game looking like this.
>>565405117Scum should be next to the vet for composition purposes
>>565285594I wish I had a pet raccoon
>>565299962the company that could pull this off and is willing to probably doesn’t exist sadly
>>565333752you mean tyranid invaded planet
>>565342506That was the one thing I’d hoped they got their shit together with by now. Might just hold off on jumping in again in that case.
>>565335295>>565335528>>565335737>>565336123What are some other modded features that should be in the base game anyway? There was that one thing that made that one CM really upset and replied “this isn’t Cod” with…
>>565335528You could try making it yourself?The Weapon Customization mod already exists, so you could probably use that as the basis and then cut out the bloat.
>>565361906What’s so good about STS anyway >>565362021I like the IH too…
>>565371536actually we play dress up for the occasional woman get it right
>>565405117the star mom is actually eerily accurate for Brahms kek
>>565371536>It's a first person gameIt's third person on the mourningstar, and you get to see your character at the beginning and end of the mission doing cool little animations. Also when you go down or die and friends come to pick you up.
>>565371536gee, if only the game had an in mission emote system where it gives you a third person cameraif only fatshark had done that sort of thing beforeif only they had the framework for doing that sort of thing in darktideshame
>>565419997Is there ever a reason to do the emotes in mission? I feel like Darktide is too high pressure to stand around and lollygag like that, if we're in elevators I just rapidly switch weapons at people.
>>565420165give us a point and laugh emote and there's plenty of reason>teammate who is bitching gets pounced>point and laugh instead of attacking the dog
>>565420165emote that does damage like tf2ur welcome fatshart
>>565420423
Was on karnak twins in malice difficulty and we all got surrounded by 10 ragers and diedHow to best counter this? I was a psyker with flame staff and dueling sword
>>565421848Block push back dash flame puff charge flame half second release
>>565420165>if we're in elevators I just rapidly switch weapons at people.The Warp is over taking me.
>>565423265It is a good pain!
>>565417087>What’s so good about STS anywayIt's a fun deck builder roguelite. Lots of long-term decision making and optimizations, weighing options against each other. Even pathing is an important decision.STS2 is honestly just STS1 but improved (barring the obvious fact that it's in early access and thus unfinished and still imbalanced) and also has multiplayer which works really well and is cool and novel.>>565421848>we all got surrounded by 10 ragers and died>How to best counter this? I was a psyker with flame staff and dueling swordBro your parry? Your veteran's shout/frags/boltgun magdump? Your ogryn's taunt/rumbler/GG/MELEE HEAVY ATTACKS? Your arbitrator's BTL/flashbang/stun shotgun? Your zealot's chorus? Your scum's RPG/blinders/forge's bellow?Press your buttons lol.
>>565424284>Bro your parry? Your veteran's shout/frags/boltgun magdump? Your ogryn's taunt/rumbler/GG/MELEE HEAVY ATTACKS? Your arbitrator's BTL/flashbang/stun shotgun? Your zealot's chorus? Your scum's RPG/blinders/forge's bellow?I am 1 character
>>565426295Yes, hold block for safety and then spam the special button on your sword. Helps if you have picrel. Also helps if you have the +2 stamina to the left, but that's very optional.
>>565426417Will try, I think I forget about blocking and panic from seeing my peril rise
>>565426919Peril going up is virtually irrelevant, it's only being at 97~100% you have to worry about, but every talent that raises your peril also stops working around there, so as long as you don't cast any magic, you shouldn't pop your head.If you're using shriek or gaze, using your ability pulls you out of the headpop animation anyway.
>>565427025I think I went down at like 65% peril maybe, I was trying to pushblock but I was surroundedThen again my team died too (I was the second to get surrounded by ragers, we died one by one) but I'd rather be able to clutch instead of have to rely on being saved...Flame staff psyker is weird, it feels like I lack a panic button to crutch on
>>565427428>Flame staff psyker is weird, it feels like I lack a panic button to crutch onThat's kind of psyker as a whole. You really kind of have nothing to bail you out of a bad situation, besides gitting gud at the basics. Dsword parry is a huge help ofc, so learn to use it in your favor. The closest thing psyker gets is a combination of center keystone assail hopefully clearing the screen, and shriek suppressing all of the shooters. But you have nothing like a shout ability, no gold toughness, and no second life like zealot gets it.If you're still new and bad and learning, that's okay, psyker is pretty hard even after the retarded buffs it received recently nearly doubling its survivability (lmfao). Most people will recommend zealot for learning the game, because it both forces you to learn the melee, but also punishes you the least for making mistakes.
>>565427587I played the game a bit 2 years ago, I have 3 guys at level 30 and stuff, I had some "minmaxed" weapons from back then too, but I'm relearning the game yeahVeteran always felt the most wellrounded to me, between grenades and power sword and shout and stuffI'm thinking about buying hive scum since it seems like they have nice AoE but also things to kill stuff fast when the need arises, are they harder than psyker?
>>565427785>Veteran always felt the most wellrounded to me, between grenades and power sword and shout and stuffKinda sorta, but I also feel like veteran is one of the harder classes to properly carry as. Really strong in coherency, but gets kind of stressful when you're forced to clutch, with how fragile you actually are when your toughness drops.I'd say arbitrator is the class that just won't fall over. You have infinite toughness generation and all the tools to solve every problem if you build it smart. Makes no difference whether you're solo clutching or have actually competent teammates. It's also retarded OP in the lower difficulties lol.>hive scum>are they harder than psyker?I would say so yes. Scum doesn't get great survivability tools, most of your survival hinges on your ability to play the basics. If you are good at dodging, blocking, etc. scum is borderline overpowered, but it's an even more extreme glass cannon than psyker is. Psyker has access to some really impressive tankiness from the skills just below the auras, scum doesn't get that.That being said, since you said you were playing malice, you should be fine. Get it if you think you'll have fun, but don't expect to do well in the higher difficulties until you can confidently stay alive with dodges.
>>565428035I was on heresy actually my mistake, I was doing fine in damnation with melee greatsword psyker but I think it's mostly because I play it like a zealot>dodgesI'm learning those again but I get swarmed sometimes still and I end up running out of dodges sometimes, I died to a gunner because of it todayWell I think I'll still get hive scum, the rocket launcher and poison just looks too cool
>>565428261>I end up running out of dodges sometimes, I died to a gunner because of it todayWhen you're surrounded by a horde, use pushes more liberally than dodges. Block and push is 360 degrees around you, blocking is just much cheaper from the front. Psyker has really fast stamina delay, so you can push very often. If/when you're out of dodges, and have room to move, start sprinting and drag your ass across the floor like a dog with worms. Spamming slides tends to get you out of sticky firefights assuming you have enough room to move. It can be a little tricky to get the rhythm down, but that's kind of what a lot of havoc 40 clutch gameplay devolves into, so it's pretty much completely normal.
>>565428261>>565428413Oh also just put gunner resist on all of your curios, diminishing returns be damned. Taking half damage from the most annoying enemy in the game is incredible. If you're autistic about math, just take 2 perks instead of 3.
far far west is pretty decent, but I've already discovered the meta and I hate it
>>565427025>using your ability pulls you out of the headpop animation anyway.This. Very important, critical piece of information.
Tried Far far west, I got to admit I don't think it was for me. The gun's don't really feel unique enough to keep my attention, and I don't think the 'open world' style adds much to the game. The spells just kinda feel a little underwhelming. I think if they made the game have more 'oomph' to it, I'd enjoy it more, as in introducing a heat system to light a fire under the players ass and maybe an overclock system like DRG or something to make the guns more cool, and maybe making the spells more flashy or even letting you just build fully around them. I do like the movement being a tad bit faster than most in this genre, but it's not enough to save the other aspects of the game for me, nor is it's movement crazy enough to be a selling point on it's own.
>try to get auric exemplar>9/10>lobby of shitters>die>start again>9/10>barrel friendly fire off ledge>die>start again...>9/10>daemonhost trigger mid boss>die>start again......Haha. Hahaha.
>>565393363forget about quail hereticsWHAT THE FUCK IS A QUAIL INSECT?
>>565421370Kek>>565424284Cool thanks for answering
>>565434587A mutant.
Is this good for castigator shotgun spam?https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a1acb7a7-8ab4-4a90-9d19-6c96d24358aa
>>565434961That works, but I'd change the +25% damage resistance to Canine Morale next to it instead since it has basically 100% up-time
>>565434961Dog without Canine Morale is stupid.Dog aura is only a point saver. If you can take the reload aura for shotgun, you should.Consider taking the bottom left reload on elite kill, too. You're a shotgun build, you need reload speed. Drop something near the top probably.
>>565434961
How's Space marine 2 on 2026? Haven't played in more than a year, worth to come back to it for some pvp/pve
>>565428035>Scum doesn't get great survivability toolsThat's only true while you're underleveled. Once you can get this shit you can just stand there getting pummeled by a dozen ragers while you unload your dual MAC-10s into them.
>>565437429VD is good but only for as long as you have ammo, which is its own problem. Yes, Pickpocket exists, but that does mean you have some short stretches where you need to actually interact with the game's melee mechanics, during which you can die if you're bad.
>>565435068>>565436168>>565436735thanks
>>565437552500 ragers
>Running maelstroms>pneumatic extractor mission>accidentally dog a burster into a zealotI though he was up ahead with the rest of the team l, oops>I apologize for doing that>After that he noticeably plays much worse>Pulls Dh, keeps getting pounced, trapped and going down>Eventually leavesI don't know if he was just trying to tank the game and bring us down with him or he just got so upset fater that he just couldn't play right.
>>565434961not taking ammo belt for a shooty build is borderline griefingit doesn't just increase your initial ammo reserve, it also increases the amount of ammo you get from ammo boxes since they replenish a fixed percentage of your maximum ammo
>>565437552CAM ON ENGELAND SCORE SUM FAKIN GOAAAAAL
>>565437786You broke his flow state probably
Alright DRGtroons: explain yourselves.
>>565440316Holy shit that looks like ass.
>>565440316I vomited twice
>>565440316yas slay queen
>>565440316>rogue gender
>>565440316The female swarves look ugly, but I'm not surprised. The male dwarves in DRG already aren't the most handsome fellas either, so this is just consistent.
>>565440316It's incredible how DRG killed itself by creating like 2-3 spinoffs at this point which just split the fanbase.
>>565440316I feel ashamed for playing original DRG for so much. I tried to boot it up few times in the last 2 years and holy shit every time I had no idea how I played this garbage, it's painful, it's annoying, the unlocks system (all five thousands of them stacked on top of each other) are the most godawful thing imaginable, the combat is boring, the missions are boring, everything that is not digging a hole is just not fun. I assume the co-op market was THIS fucking bad if we played this pile of shit for 800 hours.And now they're making the whole fucking game around the combat which sucks donkey balls, they removed the whole digging part aka the only remotely good part of the original game, replaced it with gayass pick-1-of-3-upgrades roguelite pederasty, AND on top of that they have added these grotesque abominations that make the fat balding they/them HRT groomers look like prime Vanessa Paradis. I can't even.And the worst part? My bros expect me to play this because we played DRG together for so long.
how does dont starve together haev like 20-30k+ concurrent still and ive never heard or witnessed anyone play it in like the last decadeis this something i want to try in currentyear? i suspect theres not much crossover w/ anon in this general even
>>565441882The weapon unlocks and upgrade system I actually prefer to darktides and I wish they did something similar instead of the whack ass shit we got for the first 2 years of the game.
>>565441882You'll have fun with it, don't worry.
>>565442013third worlders
>>565442013Bots. Chinese mostly.
Give ogryn new weapons pls, it's been almost 2 years since we got anything.
>SM2 finally gets a community update>discussion dies after 10 posts or sofuck, it really is over.
>>565442713This is why you guys came back here.
>>565433538The game does kinda have an overclock system with weapons because you can put multiple jokers on your weapons and yourself before you start a game>The spells just kinda feel a little underwhelmingdepends on the spell desu, i've noticed firebeam and geyser have a lot of synergy with electric spells
>>565441882The only parts of the game's progression that really suck are:>overclock grind being random>assignment progress being unique to each player, making completion of them with friends extremely annoying especially if everyone has a different assignment
>>565442713I'm not comfortable talking about SM2 here.
>>565442096Naah. Not even close. You're either crazy or dumb or retarded or just have no idea what you're talking about. The DRG progression completely shits on any other co-op shooter that ever existed, nothing comes close to how godawful it is. I was lucky enough to NOT interact with it because I started in 2018 and unlocked everything bit by bit when they were adding things, but just the idea of farming promotion (while your teammates do events and assignments and whatsoever and all you can do is watch, not getting any rewards from events at fucking all) (and God have mercy on your soul if you want to actually play the game and not just a single class because then you need FOUR fucking promotes), THEN farming resources because the amount of ore and gold you get while doing 1-30 is not even close to being enough to level your guns and promote dwarves (while your teammates are still doing event and you're STILL locked out of them), THEN farming deep dives and weeklies (getting whooping 3 (THREE, CARL, FUCKING THREE) matrix core per week), THEN farming events (which might be not on the mission at fucking all, good luck playing multiple 30+ minutes missions without getting a single event) to get a minuscule PROBABILITY to get the overclock you need, and if you're unlucky you might play for a hundred hours if not two and still not get the specific overclock you want, and once again God have mercy on your soul if the gun you want to use NEEDS this overclock, because the last time all guns in the game were fully viable without overclocks was before they added overclocks to the game.cont. in the next post because fuck this game
>>565441882Finally someone who knows the score and calls this shit out
they are not going to let us spawn primes, trygon, or even the hive tyrant, are they? on second thought fuck it, the real shame is that following their logic we won't be able to spawn the mutalith beast either.
>>565442713I would talk about it, but I've never play'd it.Want to buy it, but I'm not sure if my 960 is enough to run the game.
>>565444576Then add the most retarded quests system ever seen by humanity when you're forced to complete the whole chain of missions (half an hour each) before you can take another quest, and if someone in your party is doing some different quest (because he's promoting a different class, or wanted to unlock a different gun first, or is just locked from your quest for now and can only do other quests) then he needs different missions because they never virtually overlap, so you effectively need to do x2 the amount of 30+ minutes missions to complete a single fucking quest (and the quest is normally takes 3-5 mission). Did I told that you're locked out of some guns as well and need to do these quests for them. Also iirc you can't do weapon quests before you promote the class.And on top of that? If you don't have friends, GOOD FUCKING LUCK trying to find a random party to do any of this when the playerbase is split between the 50 different seasons and 500 modded servers.Source: tried to bring 3 of my friends to play DRG, and they all gave up because you're locked from like 3/4 of the game for the first gorillion hours or so.
>>565444412why? we had a bunch of retards back in /sm2g/ too
>>565443659Yeah I saw some of the spell combo stuff and thought they looked neat. I'm not sure if it's viable to build around just spamming fire tornados, pretty sure I have to grind up the spells before I unlock the combo for it. If I can get the jokers or whatever to enable a 'wizard' build I might be able to get a feel for it, idk.
>>565442304brass knuckles soon trust plan 2 weeks
>>565444576I think he meant that the weapon upgrade/customization system in DRG is better than in Darktide. Which I do agree with a bit, I do like the upgrade system in DRG more.But I agree the assignment method to unlocking new weapon types is tedious, I don't absolutely hate it myself though. My only issue with it is if it gives you a mission that you don't like playing.I started playing DRG very recently and remember when I was unlocking some weapons and then got a Low Oxygen mission to progress the assigment, I just decided to skip it and did another non-assignment mission instead to re-roll it.
>>565444728I get 60 fps on minimal settings on rtx 2060 so yeah. Don't feel sad, saber is going to abandon the game very soon, and the playerbase is mostly already gone.
you trying to say something, Melk
>>565444975Brap knuckles are lame. I want a brute shield + power axe and a slab shield + power maul for ogryn.
>>565445353>I get 60 fps on minimal settings on rtx 2060 so yeahOof. Knowing that my GTX 960 ain't enough.
>>565445318In that sense, yes, maybe. The Darktide marks are basically green/yellow overclocks, except with these overclocks plus upgrade tiers you have more control over the weapon stats. And the red ones OCs in DRG are the most fun, but I don't see how stuff like "let's turn this multi-barrel rocket launcher into the minenwerfer" would fit into Darktide.
>>565445510Saw these the other day, how about drill-fists
>>565444576When somebody says "I prefer X to Y", they're saying they like X more.
>>565440316my sides. it's sad because am a sucker for a ROR clone
>>565440316I know, right? Where the fuck is their BEARDS? Shitty fake female dwarfs.
>>565445976Yes, I know that, but I can't understand how can someone prefer modern DRG unlocks system at all, over virtually anything, even chewing on the fiberglass is more fun. My only idea is the person stopped playing long ago and never looked how retarded it become over the time.
>>565445794what the hell is this? it looks like they’re wrapped in aluminum foil. actually looks kinda cool…
>>565445976>liking more than one thingare you a normalfag or what
>>565445976holy shit
>>565373457Nevermind.
STOP THE COUNT
>>565443697>>assignment progress being unique to each player, making completion of them with friends extremely annoying especially if everyone has a different assignmentEach time I brought up how anti-co-op that felt as feedback, people kept dogpiling with>JUST SPLIT UP IT'S FASTlike damn man it's a co-op game why not let me play with my friends without it feeling bad
>>565444576I was just talking about the weapon customization menu and how the weapons are more static and deliberate compared to the liquid shit randomized stats the guns in Darktide get, plus the blessing being tiered so automatically 3/4s of them are useless. Weave crafting was literally perfect in Vermintide and they threw it all away for retarded player retention bullshit. Your rant on unlocking things and needing cores is not what I was talking about but sure it sucks being the kid without a lunch during core events.
>>565445474He wants you to go to the frontlines to dig trenches.
>>565445474This seems like a big coincidence until you realize 25% of Ogryns melee weapon arsenal is shovels
>>565448925actually I fucked my math up it's like 21%. Another 21% is knives, another 21% is clubs, aniother 21% is pickaxes. Then you have the pmaul and shield making up the restOgryn weapon variety is disgusitngly shit
How do we fix the BIG KNOIFs?
>>565449149Uncanny Strike
>>565449259Aside from that.
>>565448237exactly, if you want to unlock all the weapons asap then it's better to just do their assignments solo (unless you have friends who already have everything unlocked)I'm not entirely sure how you could change this system to be more co-op friendly outside of helping a friend with their assignment counting toward your assignment progress even if the missions are different
>>565449149>>565449520Higher ADM and more finesse ought to do it. Turn it into ogryn's proper crit weapon. He does have a crit skill that is functionally useless because there simply is no viable weapon to use crits with.>what about PBB stubberBLO alone already crits more than you'll ever need, and the actual damage your crits do is laughably low anyway.
>>565442713>actually enjoy the fuck out of SM2 more than any game i have in the last decade>it's dead and ran by pidors who don't give a shit
>>565449149The issue with them is that their niche changed. They used to be top tier meta but they were only ever buffed since, and now they suck. How does that happen? Simple, it's because the meta changed and killing unarmored masses does not fucking matter anymore. Not only are most things good at it now because of constant buffs, but the game barely every in any situation ever just spams unarmored units at you anymore. Back then you had to actually have a good horde clearer on events to not get swamped. This isn't the case anymore, now you get swamped by crushers and maulers and you want to be clearing those as a priority, which the ogryn cleavers aren't great at (they can do it but not fast) The solution here is to either give them the dueling sword treatment and just make them do obscene damage to armor (the most likely Fatshark solution to not upset retards) or to actually balance the game and reign in power creep by bringing the spawns back to where they were near launch and balancing the game around it properly. As a side effect this would actually make the sound function better. 99% of Darktides sound problems happen simply because it spams so much elite/special noises that it fucks the sound engine up. It would be an objective improvement to the game in that sense if they knocked the power creep down a couple pegs.
>>565450192>actually balance the game and reign in power creep>an objective improvement to the game in that sense if they knocked the power creep down>Recent reviews: Very Negative>Recent English reviews: Mostly Positive>sort by: Chinese>Recent reviews: Overwhelmingly NegativeYou wouldn't want to hurt the feelings of the Chinese people, would you, filthy gwailo?
>>565448237>>565449630>playing DRG soloThat's not even chewing on the fiberglass, that's stuffing fiberglass up your urethra while chewing on the sodium hydroxide and huffing mercury fumes all at once. Couldn't be me.
>>565451186Bosco is a better teammate than most dwarves thougheverbeit
>>565451294True. That's why I never play co-op games with randoms, because it's even worse.Speaking of which, what are the chances Fatshite will finally add the solo mode to Darktide as they promised?
>>565451186solo DRG isn't badthere's also the server browser so you can just look for games with your assignment that are in progress or host a public lobby
>>565446486those are ogryn charonites, heresy era elite ogryns
>>565451647>Speaking of which, what are the chances Fatshite will finally add the solo mode to Darktide as they promised?Like zero
>>565451647>as they promised?When did they promise this?
>>5654519373000 years ago
>>565451937On release unironically. They said it was finished, and after new years they'll add the finishing touches and release it. Last we've heard on it was 2 years later a CM casually going>oh it's not a priority hahawithout elaborating
>>565451937>The answers will be Yes, and Yes.>Posted November 18, 2022
>>565452383I think what happened is that the game then hemorraghed players because of the dogshit progression systems at the time. People figured>oh I have to play retarded weapon gacha to get the power sword I want? I guess I'll come back in a year, fatshark momentand player counts dropped so low that they instantly panicked and didn't want to add a solo mode to split the playerbase anymore
>>565452383Odds are they couldn't work performance down to an acceptable level and dropped it, or thought player hostable games would end with pirate servers moving people away from the cosmetic shop
>>565452646I'm not even asking for hostable servers, even though it should be fucking mandatory in every multiplayer game, I just want to make private lobbies alone.
>>565452620>>oh I have to play retarded weapon gacha to get the power sword I want? I guess I'll come back in a year, fatshark momentThis was me.This is me.Me, right there.Literally me.
>>565452620I'm not a player count fag but ponder this. This drop is why they immediately got scared and scrapped solo mode.
>>565449989actually pidors give a shit, it's the management who wanted to start working on SM3 as soon as SM2 hit the sales target, and a year later spread the team between 10 concurrent projects.
>>565447620soon
>>565440316The Great Replacement is real...
