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Must-Buy Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>565346534
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i tried to be nice
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it's been almost 3 months since apollo was added
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>Shiv nerfed again
This nigga can't go one patch without getting nerfed huh
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Sex with Venator
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>>565408339
Calm down Mina!
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>>565408309
they nerfed the wrong ability. should've nerfed the dash
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>>565408034
>negates rem's ult
>recharges almost as fast as rem's ult with optimal cooldown reduction from pillows
>recharges faster if you buy transcendent cooldown
>everyone is going to use it for the next few weeks
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I like the buff.
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>no nerfs
KevinGAWDS...
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>>565408558
IN HERE I AM KING
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>>565408473
>Holliday lynching silver
awesome fanart, I hate that ship and I hate twittoids
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I fucking hate silverfags
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zii4GqjISdk
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Your cumming with me!
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>>565408773
sounds like a literal tranny
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>>565408458
BUY SILENCE WAVE YOU'RE AN ACTIVE BOT YOU FUCK
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HAZE IS CUMMING FOR THEM
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>>565408458
Thank GAWD. Fuck rem.
>hurr durr you cant use any movement while i am unstoppable and using my dynamo ult with half the cooldown
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>>565408473 (me)
BUT my wish is still being able to alt cast it so you can use it like a poor's gal Bebop's hook, with a lower cooldown if you do it (just like grabbing people with Ivy)
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>>565408558
IN HERE I AM BLING


>>565408773
buh buh buh buh based
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THE HIDDEN KING CUMS FOR US ALL!
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>>565408847
I NEED THE ACTIVE SLOTS FOR WARPSTONE, FRENZY, VAMPIRIC BURST AND SPLIT SHOT
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>>565408773
Somehow the Graves player manages to be more annoying than the Silver troon
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>>565408939
>Tfw haze cums for them but never for you
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>start playing street brool
>finally actually having fun with the game again
Was that really all it took?
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>>565409129
No surprise both are secondarybait
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boring nigger game
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>get shadow weave
>it reveals me to any enemy anyways when I get close enough to them
what the fuck is the point of getting this item for stealth if staying out of sight is just as effective without having to pay 3200 souls?
absolute ass item now.
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>>565409619
read the rest of the item
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>>565409619
>now
it always did this retard they just increased the range
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>play mina
>venator ult kills me in one shot
>dynamo stomp kills me in one shot
>i don't get to do high damage as compensation for being so squishy
great balance
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>>565409803
Calm down Mina!
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>>565409110
>gun rem
deserved for being a mouthbreather you can just buy silencer in that case retard
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>>565409553
Why do you /dlg/ trooncord fags always try your best to pretend to be me? Do you wait for me to come online just to spread misinformation? You literally use my catchphrases. Do you really seethe at my existence this much to try and imitate it for your pathetic circle jerking?
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>>565409803
A post completely and utterly out of touch with reality
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da dakness kums for u
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>>565410068
boring nigger game
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>>565408034
>Color Scheme
10,000 years of hatred!
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>>565410068
what the fuck are you talking about schizo, take your meds
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this tiny ass patch makes me think we are not seeing the real update until june
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>>565410068
Meds. Now.
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>>565410017
Calm down Celeste!
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>>565410418
>>565410330
I know your game troons. Stop pretending
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>>565410656
are these "troons" in the room with us right now?
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Time to hop on deadlock and ignore the fights for the urn and get in random fights in the middle of nowhere.
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>>565410692
Well yeah, you are one.
/dlg/cord has been the most cancerous thing that has happened to this general
They try to control the narrative like a bunch of kikes. Truly mindbending
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>>565410715
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>>565410858
how do I not know you're just fucking larping and the /dlg/cord doesn't actually exist
but if it does and you're in it, you do realize you're just contributing to the problem with this bullshit pot-stirring, right? regardless of what side of the coin you're on
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>>565410614
sauce
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>>565410367
I'd disagree except this one is actually advertised in game so you're right
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>>565410982
I'm not in it, never was.
Just have my informers.
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>I'm not in it, never was.
>Just have my informers.
can't believe I fell for that fucking schizo bait
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>>565410984
Calm down white boi!
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>man I hate playing Vis I suck at him!
>try putting puddle punch on instant cast
>steam roll 5 games in a row and stole mid boss last game
ty for suggesting anon
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>>565411218
Where do you think in-house games happen?
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Cute & Canon!
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>>565411237
Which character from Deadlock would fit into modern New York City the most? I'd say Mina, especially in the Bronx
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>>565411387
tranny propaganda
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>>565411479
infernus
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>>565411479
Drifter
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>>565411548
nigga...
do you not know that meme is based off of a (biological) girl pegging a dude?
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>>565411749
yeah pegging is gay, what's your point?
Men wanna fuck, not get fucked
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>>565408309
thankfully is just a slap in the hand so no big deal, what sucks big time is the nerf on lifesteal
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flopping dead trannycock game
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>>565411548
mina/pocket is the trannyslop ship.
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i love victor
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>>565412335
is this ivy's ult
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>>565412461
yes
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Just had a match against Doorman/Lash/Wraith
Let me tell you, the new item did work. Fuck these nigger heroes so much I'm glad there's finally a counter to these I win buttons.
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>>565408473
They should give her the Skarner treatment and let her throw lassos to multiple people
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how the fuck do i win on mo and krill? do i just have to gank at like 5 minutes or something? I've gotten the team with the retarded carries like 10 games in a row now. i really don't want to play a carry myself but i think i might have to at least until i stop getting braindead team mates. my calico last game did 7k damage in a 30 minute game.
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>>565413515
Hey, I'm about to queue Mo soon too. I just gotta get some food first, but started watching yt for no reason like a retard.
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Is trophy collector good now? Any mathgawds in the chat?
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>>565412335
>>565412680
The crack ship to end all crack ships.
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>dynamo is the most broken character in the game as well as infernus
>get slap on the wrist nerfs
these devs are on drugs man why did they take victor out in the back and shoot him after his first nerf and then they leave these two just like that? a whopping +1 second CD to his two WOW DDDE DYNAMO IS RUINED
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>>565413612
they are my favourite character. team fight potential is crazy but unfortunately you need a team that actually does anything. i am losing my mind lol
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>>565413831
I feel ya brother, stay strong. Inshallah
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>>565413672
all numbers lower
it bad
me math
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Mina should've been white.
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>>565413817
Dynamo's VA is dying, this is just icetoad being a nice guy and making him relevant before his inevitable demise
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>>565412335
NOOO SOMEONE GET IVY AWAY FROM HIM THE AURA OF SUFFERING IS HURTING HER NNOO
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Does the new item just fucks Mo&Shill over?
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>vyper nerfed
>infernus dynamo barely nerfed
>kelvin not even touched
-_- we waited a month for this?
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>>565413690
its not a crackship at all
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>want to play a game
>download patch and queue in
>oops, you gotta download another patch
>quit and patch game
>hop into a match
>lose game in under 14 minutes against the most painfully obvious 6-stack premade team on the other side
>requeue
>oops, you gotta download another patch
>close game and steam
yeah, there goes all my motivation to play for the rest of the weekend
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>>565414129
Victors got his pick of fine ladies like mina and paige. Why settle for the ugly flying rat?
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>>565413515
>I've gotten the team with the retarded carries like 10 games in a row now.
is ult up?
>yes
tell your team you are going to ult the carry then do it
>no
go farm their jungle
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>>565414094
it blocks a lot of shit but since it's automatic it means you can just waste it with knockdown or silence wave.
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>>565414097
Infernus got gutted are you retarded?
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>>565414340
Victor is quite literally an abomination
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not touching this game for a few months. terrible experience of team draft lottery and the mysterious enigma of souls scaling and nothing mattering except for one random sequence of events that puts a team up 20, 30k souls then the game is over
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>>565414340
because it makes the most sense
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>>565414451
okay infernus player he totally got gutted whatever you say
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>>565414453
yet like half the female heroes want his dihh.
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>>565414642
it's not his fault his creator gave him a bbc
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-reimagined-fortuna.130121/

yayor nay?
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>now everyone is playing Holliday and I can never get her
dude what the fuck man this is shit stop trying out Holliday you didnt like her before you bitches
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>>565414824
no big boobie artwork therefore nay
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>>565408993
But he hasn't been unstoppable during ult for months.
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Why did shadow weave get nerfed?
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>>565408034
Is it intended to work against doorman???
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What a shit patch. The entire game's philosophy needs to be gutted and changed.
All you'll get from here to EOS is miniscule % changes on items and abilities.
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>>565414340
Because the flying rat is the cutest
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gun paige. go play it, cuties <3
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>>565415167
Yeah this is dota 3, its always been done like this.
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Why is this game so shittily designed
>one third of heroes presses a button and covers the entire lane
>one third of heroes M1 you 100 to 0 in a second flat with hybrid damage while also disabling everything you can do with a point click ability
>one third of heroes needs to hit every single skillshot and cut their dick off to be a movement god just to do what one retard going 1-10-8 on dynamo but pulling one good ult at the end of the game does, they also get 90% invalidated by a commonly built item
>new heroes are powercrept shit and venator and silver don't even need to pick between building abilities or gun like everyone else they just get to do both at the same time because ??? fuck game design
>every patch nerfs high skill heroes while buffing low skill floor shit or letting no skill OP subhuman garbage like graves exist or doing a nothing nerf on the most niggerlicious bullshit
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>>565415167
Make your own game then.
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>>565415619
They don't call him iceFRAUD for nothing
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>archon games
>alright
>phantom games
>alright
>oracle games
>the most sub human niggers you have ever seen
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>>565415557
Dota has a coherent vision
Deadlock does not and it's just a random abortion of mechanics taped together
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imagine if pudge attached a bomb to you and then punched you away after hooking you
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>>565416302
Whoa cool, that sounds like what Bebop from Deadlock does
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>New item that completely counters most ults, abilities, and items
>Except Dynamo's abilities and ult
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Imagine if Mo and Krill could hook you in and combo you
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>>565416440
Dynamo is the main character in Deadlock.
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how many more times do I have to win to be the best lash here
im so tired bros
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>>565413905
Literally just mod her hair to Blonde and her top to White and you have Arc
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I love when the game puts you in even more dogshit teams when you're on a lose streak.
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>russian abrams starts seething in all chat as SOON as I buy spirit burn and then he rage qits
lmao
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I was one of the 5 people who actually bought shadow weave and I will tell you this is actually a massive nerf to an item that wasn't really great in the first place. clearly they want people to use the item more so they're dropping it to tier 3 but the compensatory nerfs are way too much. cd is super long now and the invis duration is much shorter with a longer detection range and the buffs which were ok before are still just ok. if they were trying to get this item out of meme status they failed, if anything it just became much more viable exclusively for meme builds
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>>565413905
pov: you are an indian investment banker
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>wiki says it works on dynamo ult
>try in sandbox
>doesn't work(doesn't even go on cooldown so it was never triggered)
What's the deal?
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>>565416562
1. too lazy to make a mode
2. she'd still be a stinky gook with a simple recolor.
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>>565417342
You must've blocked some damage cause his ult id almost finished and you've only taken 86 damage.
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so what characters are "better" now post patch
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>>565417458
The item isn't on cooldown so the only effect here is the 8% spirit resist
It is a no items dynamo because I just wanted to test if I could block his ult and you can't
You can block a shitload of other stuff though, even Doorman ult which you can't counterspell, while you CAN counterspell Dynamo ult(if you managed to read it and react in time).
Probably a bug? IDK, seems kind of shitty and denies the item its best potential usecase as cold open Dynamo ult insurance
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>>565417534
Everyone that was good last patch
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>>565417534
Indomitable is yet another huge buff for Mina
Dynamo is still server admin
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>>565414094
Arctic blast uses it up so now you just have more reason to upgrade cold front in a game if you see someone buying this
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>>565418310
I creamed
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say Wallahi
(I was 1/4/0 at the start of the game, got carried)
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Victor, you gotta PUSH PUSH PUSH!
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I'll personally make sure Holliday stays well below 50% winrate so she keeps getting buffed
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>>565417534
Literally the exact same, it feels like they're afraid of more drastic changes so they're applying little nerfs until hitler is balanced.
Mina might even be more OP thanks to the new item lol
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>Vyper: Fixed Armor Piercing Rounds doing damage through Petrify
HAHAHA IT WASNT INTENDED YOU FUCKS GET REKT
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>die 17 times as shiv
>smurf seethes at me
damn nigga maybe dont make a new account if you cant handle the SMOKE
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>newfriend wants to play vyper
>he literally never slides
>10k player damage in a 40 minute game
its exhausting.
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>>565419096
you should have told him to play a simple hero like Dynamo sorry pal.
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dashfernus is unplayable now lmfao
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>>565419096
suggest ivy to him. literally vyper without sliding.
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>win lane
>lose game
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>>565419037
>Armor piercing rounds can shoot through kelvin's ice wall but not petrify
Perhaps a little annoying
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>>565419284
and nothing of value was lost
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>>565419284
fucking good
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>Kelvin untouched
Yeah, I'm thinking the game stays uninstalled.
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>Dynamo/Infernus/Kelvin still OP
>Victor remains homeless since the devs bent the knee to shitters who refuse to counter itemize.
Man this patch sucks.
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>>565419284
>infernus downplayers
eat shit he's STILL bullshit shut the fuck up
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What makes Kelvin op?
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So Silver is now slightly worse at blowing Geist's head off
Also was the extra bullet shred a rare bug or something consistently happening?
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>>565419704
this patch is fucking dogshit
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>>565408773
are you that Graves or something?
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What happens if you have Indomitable and get hit with Doorman cart? Does it still displace you?
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>>565420272
if only there were some sort of testing range to test that
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I got fat carried by Dynamo this time lmao
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>>565420298
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>Indomitable countering the kidnap doorman shit
Well at least its now a full troll build.
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>>565420357
>he buys silence wave
>silences you before putting you in the hotel
lol
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another game on Go & Drill
wish me luck, we have a Silverfag on our team...
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>all cc slopniggers nerfed
the age of miggers is now
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>>565419601
shed a tear
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>>565419773
he's the best healer in teamfights with his grenades, while also providing some cc with those same grenades, being able to self heal, has one of the largest health pools in the game, has a decent mobility skill, a second cc slow, and his ult is basically another aoe heal and cc, if you count being stuck inside his magical realm as being cc'd.
aoe heal gets extra nasty in teamfights if he has healing tempo, because then he can just perma-buff multiple teammates firerate during a fight while also healing them and slowing any enemy near them.
the grenades are also dynamo-tier wave-clear.
he's good in a normal match, but amazing in a well coordinated team.
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>>565419773
His 2 makes him unkillable.
His 1 and 3 make you unable to escape or shoot.
The ult doesn't even matter at this point. He could not have it and he'd still be busted.
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>>565420585
but the CC niggers are also the m1ggers
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why do they keep punishing shiv every single patch
what did he ever do wrong
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new 'etro on the 'elly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu0F1DViKbI
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>>565420719
People see him inflicting a lot of damage with his knives after neglecting every other ability and rushing boundless and EE and assume that's just his regular state. They then go cry on social media and that's what Valve listens to.
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>teammate runs in 1v4 in mid where there isnt even a walker
>notice name is spanish
nice they're ruining this game like dota 2 as well
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>no Yamato changes
bring back her sliding slash, Yoshi, you coward
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>>565420719
being a broken fucking nigger hero that needs big reworks?
And I can guarantee you right now as always he's not gonna be picked at all for like 2 weeks and then in a month he's gonna be top 3 again.
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Indomitable is unstoppable for bad players
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>>565420496
I believe in you, just make sure you get spirit burn or toxic bullets or something to fuck her up...
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why is billy so much fun to play?
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new item seems bad. unless you're playing at a super high level and getting ambushed you can just press unstoppable instead
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>>565420601
Don't forget his damage output is decent as well, nothing crazy but when you stack it together with everything else its just a nigger-tier combo that makes you want to uninstall.
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You play Kelvin because he's strong.
I play Kelvin because I want to have sex with men.
We are NOT the same.
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>>565420914
IT'S THE item that lets you press unstoppable
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>>565420914
>>565420884
Indomitable is a linkens sphere, you buy it on somewhat frontline and heroes that are in constant danger of a crucial silence but where an item like unstoppable is not always the best choice.
Or similarly on heroes where being focused down can instantly ruin them.
Think of heroes like Yamato or Gray Talon
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>>565420914
I had a silver cancel my ult as lash with it because I didn't realize they just bought it so I didn't have a cheapo item like slowing hex to pop it
we still won but so fair ha ha
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>>565420897
Best designed hero by far, actually balanced since if you land a parry you can reverse uno a fight compared to other nigger m1 heroes who just hold a button and autowin.
His kit synergizes well and beating people to death fulfills a primal urge in your brain nothing can replicate.
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Brooling with Silver is fun but her waveclear being dogshit makes me just not want to play her.
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i dont need debuff remover or unstop or the new chatgpt-slop item because i bait my teammates and enter all teamfights 10 seconds late so all the enemy ults and abilities are used up
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>>565421174
nigga just buy cold front and do like 2 heavy melees
isnt CF core on her anyways
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Billy is weird you wanna build gun because melee scales off gun but you also want to build spirit because the hp you get scales off it
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>>565421418
or if you're not throwing build collosus jug and be a frontline like you're supposed to be
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>>565421174
sar your torment pulse
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fun fact - know how every character has x% rate of infliction for items like toxic bullets or spiritual overflow based on their gun? that also applies to their melee (same amount for light and heavy melee)

billy melees you, he gets 6% towards toxic bullets despite being a melee hero
lash melees you, 11% towards toxic bullets per bullet (so his burst fire would give 33%)
abrams melees you, 30% which makes sense

also silver's left click which is mega fast has the same 37% infliction rate as her shotgun lmao
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>infernus nerf
crackers always keeping the black man down
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>>565421661
Silver is the only hero that can proc toxic in 3 shots ever since the nerf to buildup. It's OP on her.
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Be sure to give feedback on the forums about if you like the boons being activated fully at 40k instead of 50k for the full AP upgrades. I love it
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>>565421865
toxic isn't that good if you don't build spirit
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>Paige: Dash speed reduced to slow bucket
The fuck is this also fuck, I was just learning Vyper and they nerf her.
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I am so fucking sick of this.
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>>565421940
You probably should build spirit on silver since her DOT has good scaling and it prevents metal skin cucking your damage entirely.

I think decay, superior duration, torment pulse all great on her.
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>>565414921
retard-kun?
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>>565421940
You get like 1.9% just from 4.8k investment not counting level up boons. Silence Wave + Cold Front/BRS and you're good. It's why Drifter still buys Toxic even after the nerf, he builds 4.8k spirit anyway with supdur + arcane surge.
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>>565420914
Unstoppable is not good because you don't have 360/top down vision so it's not gonna help you if the resident mo comes from behind you.
Indomitable is guaranteed to block something and builds from a great item.
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>>565415964
wait until you see how subhuman ascendant/eternus is. you will literally unironically feel like there's bots on your team. they won't communicate and they will do the most baffling shit all game long.
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>>565422492
a mo who is smart enough to sneak up behind/above you is smart enough to buy silence wave
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>>565420445
indomitable is not an active. does silence wave work on passive effects? I genuinely don't know
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>>565422206
I am a retard I'm sorry.
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>>565422703
they made it so reactive/indomitable also works on silence
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>>565422708
You have to smooch my feet now!
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Isn't this a bit much?
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am i the only one that gets a bug sometimes where the mcginnis walls are not punchable so you just punch the air like a retard and get your time wasted?
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Nothingburger hero changes but liking most of the item changes
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>Team cries about Vyper
>Proceed to ignore the calls to get Disarm or Cursed Relic - instead keep building their meta build
>5 people's mentality was: The others will get the lockdown, i will do the damage
There needs to be a low prio hell where they can't leave until they win X games with support items for more than 60% of the game
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>>565408773
she sounds hot
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New item kind of sounds like shit why would I not just buy unstoppable
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>>565422878
>make weapons unique
>add item for the cheapest amount that makes all the weapons feel the same
WOOOOOOOOOW ICE FROG WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>565423083
One's passive and dispels just the first effect like Linken's sphere
Other one is an active that is basically BKB and stops all effects
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>>565423132
having slow bullets is not an engaging method of making guns feel "unique".
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>>565422878
love it honestly, bullet velocity is huge on a lot of heroes so youre kinda forced to have an 800 soul item in your inventory forever unless you spend 5600 more for armor piercing bullets that only 1-2 heroes really want
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I can't believe Trophy Collector is fucking dead.
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>>565423219
so why have it at all then
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quite literally nothing changed for nigfernus and dynamo lol still in every game pressing their buttons for huge reward with no risk or effort
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>>565423338
I kinda like it on Drifter. I'm just permanently roaming for stacks anyway might as well get more souls passively.
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>>565423338
well erm ackshually
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>>565421075
Problem is that silences proc it. Run in, use silence wave, then do whatever you want. t4 item gets hard countered by a t3 item.
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got carried by Vindicta
(I already left a comment on SIlverfag's profile mid match)
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>>565423370
to justify the existence of bullet velocity as a stat to pad the shop with items.
it still works on a percentage scale so the slower you are the less speed gain you get from it which is fucking dumb.
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>>565423462
was already a thing with focus lens / dispel magic and crushing fists / rebuttal (800 soul item)
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Which team is gonna win?
Dynamo has been in all 3/3 matches today btw
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>>565423668
Left has more heroes and overall the better team comp
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what are the least aim based gun or at least hybrid heroes? all 4 of my friends play heavy spirit heroes so i figure i should pick a gun guy.
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>>565422830
Sex with this anon right here
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>>565423668
Right wins because mina + lash unless the dynamo gets nonstop god tier ults
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>>565408034
paige sisters we are so back
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>>565423980
>least aim based gun
you can just use graves with splitshot and a orange investment otherwise you are going to have to run a character who likes to melee a lot
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>>565424125
right i forgot graves. i figured drifter is fine too
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>>565424221
Drifter is a spirit hero
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>team doing really good
>tell them to get mid boss
>"hmm no lets get urn!"
>...
>50 minute defeat
I'm done playing this garbage. Im just tired.
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Why did they buff Haze’s 4? Are they trying to turn her into an ult bot? Her 3 should’ve been buffed instead
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>>565424221
drifter is pretty close too, you don't have to worry about aim so much on anything that wants to be close really since its only going to get hard if you have to land a lot of shots on a moving target at mid to long range constantly.
could even play gunbop if you want to play current hotness too
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>>565423980
Graves is the easiest gun in the game since it has a very forgiving lock on rather than firing individual shots, the downside is low range.
Drifter's gun looks like its a reskinned shotgun, but if a single blood pellet hits it does full damage so very forgiving.
Silver's shotgun isn't super hard to hit with, and when her ult is activated theres basically not aiming since you just use the movespeed of her ult to get in their face and hold down leftclick.

I'd also mentioned Billy/Abrams play up close so super hard aiming isn't required close up, but it can be hard to get the hang of their kits without feeding too much so practice with them first
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>>565421029
Ettrick...
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>>565424320
ive heard gunbop is dead with patch but i cant tell if thats doomer mentality
>>565424329
my experience with silver has been… kinda rough. shotgun is okay but man if you miss a shot and you cant ult it feels pretty bad
billy would work yeah
ive heard gun abrams is kinda dead too? mostly see spirit now

thanks homies
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>>565424329
>Silver
Please god don't pick this hero thinking you don't have to aim her 1 and 3 are skill shots and she does nothing unless you land all 3 hits from slam fire.
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Is Indomitable a tax you have to play every time to be able to play the game like Curse used to be?
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>>565420884
imo I think I would only use it on Mina rn
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>>565424484
he lost some base damage but bebop is still sitting there with a 8 second hook if you just buy cdr for it along with his 1 counting as melee and healing
gunbop isn't as potent but its far from gone
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fuckin lmao

>>565424512
oh I thought they meant like least aim based gun specifically, not gun based hero woops
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>>565424612
Only characters I think it'd be any good are her, Apollo, and Pocket. High mobility casters who really don't like being silenced or stunned.
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>>565420884
It's just such a weird item because if CC is an issue then one cleanse on a fuckass long CD isn't going to change that, and if CC is that big of an issue you just buy unstoppable.

I get they added other stats to it to mitigate that but what the fuck is 8% res going to do when you're at the point in the game to buy a t4 defensive lmao
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>>565424484
>ive heard gun abrams is kinda dead too
he isn't, gun abrams and melee abrams are the same shit except he is buying headshot items, unless you mean FULL gun abrams then idk cause I haven't tried it in more than a year at this point.
the problem with that has always been you need a item to reload and conveniently there is a melee item that does it for you
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>bluetooth punch through my parry allows the enemy laners to punch me 2-4 times
NERF MELEE
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>2 games back to back of Viper and Haze on the enemy team
>nobody buys disarming hex except for me
>everyone just walking in the jungle and dying instantly
>3rd game against fed drifter
>again I'm the only one that buys disarming hex
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this game needs aghs and aghs shard
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>>565424786
Disarming hex is a bad item according to /dlg/ despite it being spammable
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>>565423980
drifter is like a shotgun but with SMG range, try it out
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At this point i dont even know anymore wether ivy was trolling me by carrying me behind enemy turret or setting up a big flank for me
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>>565424786
sorry bwo it says to buy express shot next...
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>mofags hate the patch
>doorfags hate the patch
>lashfags hate the patch
>script fags btfo
yeah, im thinking we're back
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>everyone buys trophy collector
YIPPIE WOWOWOWOWOW
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>>565423338
They should have kept it the same ability range to be QUITE honest
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>>565424961
Lesser known part of disarming hex is it lowers bullet resist.
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>>565424774
cool i fuck with abrams, thx
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>>565425127
>resto locket is still a god tier item
>now we have trophy collector
I looooooooooooooooooooooooove falling off because I did not buy the mandatory god tier SSSSS tier items!
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>>565423858
>>565424010
>>565423668
I love raping (ulting) Minas!
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^deadcock_game\d+\.jpg$
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>>565425347
>emissary 3
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>>565425293
also if you run into a character that has a overnerfed or fucked up orange route you can tack siphon bullets in at the moment to kinda fix it.
i wouldn't rely on that lasting forever though
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>>565425512
RAPED
dey can run but wont matah
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uh oh
pros are mad
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>10 trophy collectors 8 minutes in
how are these developers genuinely incapable of delivering ONE good patch
is that too much to ask
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>>565425510
Go back to your /dlg/cord if you get so OFFENDED you gottta flitter people talking about the game. Actual tranny behaviuour.
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>>565425512
why are movement trannies so dramatic
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>>565425650
It is a shit item though lol
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>extra regen/healing rite into trophy collector
This is your meta now, you rike?
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>>565425650
It should definitely not proc on silences. What the fuck is the point of it when anyone can buy silence wave to get rid of a 6400 item. If they keep it 50s it needs to not be procced so easily. If they do keep it working against silence it needs to be like 30s CD
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>>565425790
dont forget your free CC immunity item, only viable heroes now are m1ggers
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>>565425510
thanks mate
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>melee items not fixed/buffed
its over bros
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>>565425812
I thought it was a community made item too when I saw it, it's so fucking trash lol
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>>565425890
thanks for being a faggot!
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>>565425932
melee is the most honest playstyle because of how useless it is
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>throws knife at you
>procs your 64 billion soul "anti CC" item
kekaroo
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>>565425953
Yeah, I deleted the post because I just read the patch. It sounds so bad.

Either rework Unstoppable or don't. Feels like decision paralysis.
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>>565425840
Because then doorman would be useless.
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>>565425840
you are paying for the automatic activation which has it's own downside.
if you buy the active removals you don't have this problem and can just ignore this item entirely.
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>>565425510
Feels weird looking at regex after not seeing it for a while. Thank yew anon
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>>565426010
The idea is for it to be a compliment to unstoppable but yeah too expensive and not as good as linkens sphere
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>>565426031
Good fuck doorfaggot HAWK TUAH
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im going through some of the voicelines and damn calico wants lash's cock

https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=nano_ally_lash_see_massive_stomp_02.mp3
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>>565426180
JBL
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The AP changes are nuts. Ivy is now even more OP since all of her tier 3 upgrades are bullshit.
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the new item makes sense for squishy carries like gt and wraith who cant afford to be caught and oneshotted but who the fuck else would buy this item when unstoppable is clearly better
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>>565413515
>READY TO MAUL THEM
>I HOPE WE FIND SOMEONE WALKING ALONE
>READY FOR THE NEXT TEAM FIGHT
>LET'S LET'S TAKE LET'S LET'S TAKE OUT PAIGE LET'S TAKE OUT LET'S TAKE LET'S LET'S TAKE OUT PAIGE
>GOOD JOB
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>>565425650
>Russians
>Pros
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>>565425840
It's in an odd spot where if it's going to be procced by silences it should have like half the cooldown, but if it's up every 30 seconds it's then going to be annoying as shit to deal with.
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so whats up with seven? some sort of trans?
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>>565426315
>Go Spirit/Melee Ivy
>Every time i go stone form, everyone magically has 1 stamina to sprint away in a perfect floral form so i get no one
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>>565426415
he transformed into a skeleton yea
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>>565425650
>slavtards
>pro players
Choose one.
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Simply don't put Linken's sphere in the game. It's that simple. It will never be balanced.
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I literally NEED silver's to smother me to death with her massive, in heat, puffy, juicy fortune cookie!
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>>565426921
i need a job for health insurance or i may be dead in 3 years
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>>565426850
Now we just need morphling.
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>>565426343
Because unstop requires you to activate it. You already explained it's good on assassin type heroes who shouldn't be manfighting in a teamfight anyway.
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classy
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>>565426921
zoophile freak
I hope they lock you up
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>>565426998
thye literally nerfed 75% of the characters today
EOS soon
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>>565426850
I think it can exist fine in the game BUT IT SHOULDNT WORK ON ULTIMATES, COUNTERSPELL EITHER

a fucking item should undo a character's ultimate, it should require actually committing to using unstoppable which you can wait out
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people complain about m1gger metas but would a spirit meta really be better
at least with m1gger heroes you need to aim
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>Give slight on paper nerfs to OP heroes
>In reality buff them with the AP changes
This fucking dev man
THIS FUCKING DINO
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>>565427112
we literally were in a spirit nigger patch with infernus and dyanmo pressing 1 button to win with 0 aim needed
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>>565426941
that sucks anon, hope you find one soon
>>565427010
not gonna happen + I will continue to eat many fortune cookies
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>>565426921
cookie with beans
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>>565427194
>the /dlg/ trooncord's finest
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>>565427112
Both metas suck because they focus on the three characters dominating the patch. They're basically the same thing with different mechanisms.

This game was best when the global meta was perma farming, but you guys aren't ready for that.
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>>565427112
I'd prefer a relatively even meta, gun metas are about dying instantly because a m1gger got two kills and spent a couple minutes in the jungle, spirit metas turn into indecipherable aoe slop teamfights.
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>>565426998
>7 minute queue
>cancel, unban Haze and requeue
>get into match instantly
>Haze on enemy team
bans do fucking jackshit on this game
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>>565427285
but you want a haze on the enemy team free win
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>>565427285
haze sucks why are you complaining
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>brawl mmr way to high to play stoned
yep, its time to make a smurf
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>>565426394
>>565426696
name one full EU team that does not have russians
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There should be a setting that lets you choose whether you prefer faster matchmaking that's less accurate to your bans and priority characters, or slower matchmaking that guarantees you get your character as well as avoiding your bans.
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>>565408034
Haven't played this week and then I see my twitter blow up about this and I actually look into it.
What the fuck were they thinking? Invalidate some kits entirely? Make certain mobile characters basically immortal? Making channeled bullshit like Dynamo even stronger? Making GT and Vinny impossible to bring down? Free heavy melees? This is like 80% of a legendary item put into the regular game are they fucking retarded?
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alpha test, no bitching
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>>565428149
There is so much wrong with this they didn't need to test shit to know it's awful.
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yoshi please revert the elo from the matches during the indomitable bug i was in a match that we turned around so huge only to get griefed by that bug, and against the most annoying people ever who kept diaperplay rping in chat
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>m1gger meta
>spirit meta
when is it time for the melee meta?
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>>565428070
it's a worse unstoppable that you will never see anyone buy
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>>565428370
Brother you get a free heavy melee. Go nuts.
When they add a melee item that applies a DoT.
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>>565428370
never as long as parries are OP
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MO & SKILL, CARRY ME
INSHALLAH
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>>565428427
It's a better reactive and reactive was already good. Any movement character will buy it. Anyone with a channel will buy it. Anyone that fights CC heavy characters will buy it.
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>>565428495
>cheating
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>>565428440
melee hits build up toxic bullets... but only 10% per melee though!
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>trophy nerf
>again
:(
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https://x.com/LilacLorenza/status/2050122522281267479
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>>565428618
>sneeding
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>>565428523
if it didn't have a 55 second cooldown, maybe. but no one is wasting 6400 on that garbage
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>>565428523
Its literally core on everyone if game goes past 25 mins

Will be removed soon probably
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>>565428631
They should make your melee damage modifier increase your proc modifier, so buy the time you have crushing and lifestrike and such you can proc toxic with a heavy.
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my friend who spam wraith for weeks has yet to stop crying about indomitable
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>>565428643
It literally got a massive buff, no one bought it when it was 3200 item. Now everyone will buy it as first item
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>>565428685
So people with ults that get interrupted a lot WON'T buy it specifically to have it up every time they ult?
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>>565428860
they would buy unstoppable for the same price to prevent the enemy team from just using 2 stuns..? are you for real?
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>>565428631
its based on your character's gun build up so fast firing gun characters get fucked trying to inflict it with melee while shotgun characters get 30 to 37% per melee : >>565421661
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Delete wraith ult from the game. Don't even give her an ability on 4. genuinely what the fuck were they thinking when they designed this
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>>565429034
She can keep her ult if they delete her TP. Both together on the same kit is disgusting.
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what the fuck is this
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>inhibitor, best green gun item that no one want to buy
>nerfed
who snitch
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>dynamo gets basically 0 nerfs
Why? Silver got nerfed harder than him and she was already dogshit
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add an item called spiked knuckles, it procs bleed which is a damage over time effect for meleeGAWDS
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Warden getting silence on the 3 is turbo cancer and unnecessary btw. In what world is -stam, slow, silence, and root on two easy to land abilities fair.
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>>565428370
Never again after they added rebuttal and removed all the heavy melee cancels
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why is there no anti heal melee weapon?
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>>565429180
Indomitable might be a nerf to him we'll see
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>>565429186
I've already asked for this on the forums. No dice. With how hard and risky it is to get heavy melees, they should have more items that proc lingering effects imo and a bleed is perfect.
>>565429295
Antiheal, bleed, slow, stam removal, should all be melee items for these.
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rework crushing fists to make it identical to skull basher/abyssal blade
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>>565429295
>>565429380
toxic bullets is applied via melee :)
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>>565429476
holy shit i never knew that big if true
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>>565429435
It could stun on every heavy melee and melee would still be shit.
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>>565428370
you missed the melee meta.
it was when shiv came out and debuff resist worked on the parry stun.
max rage shiv just ran around spamming heavy punch and shrugging parries off.
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>>565429476
Yeah and the build up should be multiplied for melee damage it's worthless rn.
>>565429523
It’s true but ass.
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hmm today i'm gonna play spirit geist
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Only the jungle and walker rework can save this game now
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What's that? Silver, you say?
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>>565429523
I assume a lot of other ones are too. Point blank close range damage is applied so the slow should, slowing bullets probably does. But yes the scaling level of application buildup is based on your ranged attack not individually on melees unfortunately
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>>565427112
>at least with m1gger heroes you need to aim
every m1gger has some combo of
>infinite bullet hose you spray in the vauge direction of enemy
>stun/popup/massive slow that lets you shoot them for free
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>>565429526
yeah melee is just actual garbage unless you have a stun to set it up or have abilities that also scale off melee
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Vyper is still cancer. Just remove her from the game.
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>>565429782
You for got the m1 items that let you slow/dot/shred
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>>565429672
Nerfed for literally no reason
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>>565427112
m1s have 50 thousand bullet debuff proc items
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>op bullshit heroes barely nerfes
>weak heroes barely buffed or nerfes
Why? What did they do in Hawaii, smoke meth for two weeks straight?
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>>565430008
That happens to her every now and again, just gotta live with it.
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which troopers should I buff as Rem? melees make the most sense to me, but everyone else does it to medics
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>>565430397
Medic to make it harder for the enemy to heal.
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Its just the same handful of busted nigger characters that fly around the map and rape you early, mid, and late game with the added bonus of matchmaking being completely dog shit so you get dumb porn addicted trannies in your game that feed.

From Archon to Ascendant, it has been the same slop fest filled with teabagging troons that feed.
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>oct 2025 - shiv alt fire knockback nerfed 10%
>november 2025 - knockback nerfed another 10%
>march 2026 - alt fire buffed 10%, which means it's still worse and also we're going to fuck with his stamina for a bit before settling on bigger then average stamina cooldown
>may 2026 - shiv alt fire knockback nerfed 10% putting him back to where he was since november but with worse stamina, fuck you.

why do they hate the one thing that takes skill on this character so damn much but I can still just mash 2 in the enemy team and 1v6
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>>565430416
>>565430397
Careful if you're afk split push shoving constantly though, sometimes this causes a medic buildup that makes fighting around wave really dangerous.
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Torment Pulse still feels like such a fucking scam.
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>>565430424
Yep, exactly. Then you get tranny freaks playing Paige to satisfy their AGP retardation. Always in a duo ofc.
This game has no future with straight, normal people.
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>>565430967
Pads my stats tho and the once in a blue moon kill confirm from it validates the placebo.
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so how do we explain paige being 3 stam?
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>>565431052
she's a pole dancer
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>>565431052
You don't. Someone as big of a modifier to her team as Paige should be easy to pick off and 2 stam.
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>>565430967
it does literally nothing unless you're building EE, and are playing a spirit character who wants EE while also being in melee range (literally just yamato and abrams)
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>>565430995
Would be tolerable if I didn't have to get raped by the enemy infernus because he won the coin toss and got the super giga carry while our puppygirl silver feeds 10 kills in lane.
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>>565431052
the trans women who work at valve complained that their main has too little stamina (paiges literally never buy stamina mastery or arcane surge)
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>>565408773
I just saw this while doomscrolling. Lmao. That Graves was speaking facts though, he was pushing because he needed the healing minion. I usually leave the healer for last but if my laner is 50% I'd shoot the shit out of that first.
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>>565431145
Don't forget Moseph and Krilliam
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Remember to buy your 6400 mandatory item!
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>>565431425
Really curious what the pick and win rate is.
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>>565408773
>>565408846
siegebros...
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>>565427112
>at least with m1gger heroes you need to aim
>m1gger A can hit 90% of his shots
>if m1gger B can hit 95% of his shots he wins
>if m1gger C can hit 96% he wins
How very interesting and skillful.
We've seen in every other game how this shit plays out.
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>>565431425
>the team with the most trophy collectors won
wowowoww....
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>>565431425
>team with more indomitables wins
simple as
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GHrit-S_BFM
Why are Silver players like this?
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>>565408773
>"IT'S YOUR FAULT I DIED IN LANE!"
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>>565431425
What does Lash do in this situation?
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>>565431905
Why do you think he went gun
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>>565431408
they are a m1gger character now with the new gun buffs
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>>565431905
in my game I got refresher and told my team to try to exhaust their indomitables first
we won lmao
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>queue for a match
>play lane phase
>do somewhere between fine and good
>spend the next twenty minutes watching the consequences of my team's other two lanes unfurling with grim inevitability
every fucking game. nothing past minute 10:00 matters, it's all written in stone by then
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So let me get this straight
>every single character buys 1-2 of their core laning items
>then immediately buys trophy collector and starts to BROOL 24/7

is this the new direction of the game?
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>>565432141
They have the stats, they know 95% of the playerbase literally never farms and just BROOOOOOLLLLLSLSSS nonstop
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>>565432081
also forgot pic - I sold the refresher for the final push since it had 3 minutes on cooldown, but I did use it 3 times
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>Seven untouched
Alright. Guess I'll just keep climbing into ascendant the easy way then.
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>>565432271
>silver on enemy team
Of course you won.
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>>565432361
nigger that silver was an instant death machine if we didnt pick her off first, she was melting our abrams despite him being loaded with resists and getting lots of team healing
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>>565431425
>>565432271
>trophy collector meta
>indomitable meta
>green items in general meta
>brool meta

are you happy with the state of deadlock?
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>>565432447
No because I main Doorman and Ivy and this is hell with everyone ignoring my kit.
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>>565432447
>Let teammies brool all they want
>Hoover up jungle and sneak objectives while everyone is playing grab-ass across the map.
>Show up to a fight 10k up and the game ends
>"Wtf X character OP"
I'm having a great time.
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>fucking loads of retards on reddit and discord are saying this is a great patch

Legitimately, how can they think this? This patch is complete dogshit.
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Is the new item not in brawl?
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>>565432556
>objectives
If it's not urn don't even bother. And if it's urn, the brooling will come to you so you can't "sneak" it.
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>>565432447
trophy collector is risk vs reward, I think it'll fall off when people realize that cultist is still really good and immediately useful and no longer makes to mega tanky
indomitable should not affect ultimates even if they gotta bump it down to a 3200
I think some green items are fine but the 3200 spirit/gun resist items are basically too prevalent/core/boring, maybe they need to nerf them a bit but have them build into 6400 soul items
and I think brawling meta is a consequence of objectives falling too easily, you have a guy with a good "fuck you denial" ult in two lanes and four people fighting and pushing in another and shit falls too fast
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>>565432806
What I don't understand the most is the AP changes, legit terrible and just makes the nigger OP heroes even more insufferable after (((nerfing))) them by a tiny bit.
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>>565432870
You'd be surprised at how effective knocking on base guardians is at getting people to quit brooling on the other side of the map. From there, you just eat some jungle and do it again the moment they try some more.
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>>565432887
trophy collector no longer makes you mega tanky*
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>no more health on trophy
>this fuck ass new green t4
My mo & krill…
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>>565429101
the old icon looked great, i don't get why they're redesigning things that have no need for it
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Isn't this new item nearly 1:1 a legendary from brawl? What the fuck were they thinking putting it in?
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Delete this retarder hero from the game.
It summons so many troons it's insane. Games getting ruined just because they wanna be their AGP furry icon so bad.
I need a break after the last lost game. Unplayable today.
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>>565433093
my wife is so strong
She makes schizos go insane
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>>565433184
kys
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>Dynamo: Quantum Entanglement cooldown increased from 19s to 20s
Gaben's self insert gets a slap on the wrist
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>>565433093
Just living up to her lore at being a failure desu. Should have honored him for keeping up the RP
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>>565433184
she's so based and her cookie is so juicy
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>>565432987
moseph is a m1gger now
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If they would remove all the tranny freaks from the game then it would be actually playable. Just ban anyone who is like that - problem solved.
Furries
Niggers
Trannies
Faggots
3rd worders
anyone who is not white or straight pretty much
boom, your playerbase is actually bearable now. Would have thought
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>>565423410
>it barely payed for itself over the course of 30 minutes
trophy collector is a trap item for brooltards
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>>565433067
They're on the final stretch towards open beta (aka basically released) and while they're proabably happy with the itemization FOR THE MOST PART, they probably want to try some big meta shifts using the data they've gotten from street brawl.

The map is probably 100% finished internally with new creeps and stuff ready (save for minor changes like changing icons) and all the character remodels for those that need them, but this sorta shit they need to fuck around with hard before release because if it breaks the game/meta it'll hurt the launch.
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>>565433236
Dynamo's fine. Infernus is the one who got a slap on the wrist. And warden, wraith got 0 nerfs. Haze got a fucking buff... this game won't last another year.
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>>565433592
>Dynamo's fine
Stopped reading right there
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Troon genocide when?
We need to restore gaming to its former state
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Is Deadlock being mentioned on Joe Rogan good?
https://x.com/i/status/2049612006681104444
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>>565432987
I've just integrated arctic blast into my build now since it procs the barrier, still cancer to deal with though. Removed Lash from my pool however, counterspell was awful but this has made him unusable.
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>>565433463
sorry whitey, this is azn bro game
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>>565433762
Most Joe Rogan listeners are uncs, at most their reaction is going to be "woah that's crazy bro" (aka the same reaction Joe himself has)
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>Go spirit Abrams
>Spam heavy melee in hopes of being parried so that indominable triggers
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Silver objectively needs buffs
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Silver objectively needs rubs
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>Indomitable counters everything other than dynamo
Yoshi you are a fucking faggot
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>enemy wraith is 20 - 1
>my seven is 1 - 12
>they laned against each other
hmm
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>>565434580
We have unstoppable for that
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Silver is pregnant after I raped her in a back alley
t. Drifter
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massive orgy with silver and all the horny stray dogs she attracted by being in heat!!!!
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>>565434580
It stops one instance of CC, Dynamo's ult is a sustained stun so it would just stun you again right after if it triggered on it. You can see this happen with counterspell.
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Besides Dynamo, what other heroes do I play that AREN'T gimped by indominable?
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Third in a row the match is like this from the start.
Why do I have to suffer with these trannies and niggers? What have I done to deserve it?
Mina, Drifter, and Geist ended up dying two more times since I took the picture.
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>>565434752
>>565434809
Paige...
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If you RP in game, you are subhuman
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"Once You've Become A Silver-Fag, You'll Never Stop Wanting to Beat Troons and "Pro-Players" to Death with Your Bare Hands."
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>>565435160
When I pick The Lash his speech mannerisms simply take over.
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The Lash respects your hecking pronouns
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>>565434893
Deserved for playing Mo
Nice to see spirit geist running it down in shitelo. You belong there bud
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The Lash supports Israel because Mo&Krill are subhuman
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>>565435184
Erm she's LE op, now excuse me I have a game of Dynamo, Kelvin or Infernus to play.
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>>565435160
Larping in character is fine.
"MOMMMY SILVER PLEEEEEASSEEE YURI WITH MEEEE" needs to get you a one way ticket to a shallow grave.
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>>565435459
Shit talking in Larp is actually hilarious and I won't budge on that.
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I just love how the game is great one game and then the next it just throws you into a team that doesnt do urn doesnt contest urn chases a guy that runs past walker into their spawn nearly while there's a drifter behind you shooting you
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>>565435269
What character should I play so I can have normal games? Tell me? How do I avoid troons and niggers in my matches
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>>565435576
Play a carry and tard wrangle. That's your only way out until you get to ranks where people have functioning frontal lobes.
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>>565435459
That's fair.
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>>565435570
They already have the EOMM before monetization is even a thing
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>>565435160
i rp in game when i play drifter
i rape
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this thing is fucking worthless
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>>565435827
They should just make a hero with it but better as a passive and cut the item
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Did they nerf parry? Suddenly nobody is using parry anymore
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>>565435160
Whenever I play billy I get consumed by rage and unrest
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>>565435967
parry stun triggers the new 6400 item that got added
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>lane partner feeds nonstop
>rage quits
nice no really nice im glad matchmaking exists
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RUINED
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>>565435890
Add it to Rend
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>billy runs in
>gets parried
>gets killed
>ziplines back
>gets parried
>gets killed
>ziplines back
>gets parried
>gets killed
>rage quits
how are people this even able to download the game? There is just a lack of cognitive function here
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Holy fuck Lash is pain right now.

First step is they have to be outside BUT NOT MID LANE OR AT WALKERS SIDELANES WHERE THERES TONS OF COVER TO HIDE UNDER.
Then you have to put your body above them and hope you don't get haze dagger or cursed
Then you have to use slowing hex or silence on dynamo and mina so they dont ult and kill you or kill your team
Then you have to somehow bait out counterspell
Then you have to rely on your team to exhaust indomitable
THEN, IF ALL THATS DONE, YOU MIGHT SOME BIG DAMAGE ON THEM BEFORE THEY PANIC ULT AND KILL SOME GUYS ANYWAY
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>>565427112
>at least with m1gger heroes you need to aim
Late game they no longer have guns, they have laser beams and aren't subject to cooldown or reload restrictions. Engagement times can be as long as needed. The items they build (lets say Inhibitor, Mercurial Magnum, Ricochet) are also spread out between investment categories so it's much easier for gun chimpanzees to get a compy diversified investment without even thinking.

The only people that like gun metas are the people who main the few broken gun carries that patch, or feel they are obliged a win for their aim even if they're just running it down into the enemy walker.
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I cannot queue for more games today. Three games in a row I get faggots like this on my team. HOW do you go 0/10 on Drifter? HOW
Banking holidays were a mistake
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>>565436442
This is why you duo WITH a Dynamo
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>>565436524
i had a billy go 0 and 12 its fine anon its an alpha
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>get called out for buying 1600 spirit item first on apollo while ahead vs squishy lane
TC is bait isnt it
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>>565436524
Find someone to duo with or play a carry.
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>>565436730
i like buying it on ivy
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>>565436524
you had holliday on your team while they got kelvin you lost from second one
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>completely dodges all patch notes once again
wizardbros our rework is coming SOON
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>>565436889
Literally most broken hero in the game

lmao just aoe stun whole enemy team for 5 seconds
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290 to 561 pretty gud
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>>565436524
>>565436602
Yesterday I had a 0/22 Billy on my team that had picrel as his build, with 8k player damage in a 40 minute game
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I feel like we're probably gonna get ruined gauntlets but with less distance and a higher cooldown if theyre porting over gimped legendaries
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why are people building melee shit on drifter, one (1) melee hit on close range ability every 10 seconds does not justify a fucking crushing fists purchase
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>>565437323
You can often sneak in a light melee on TP as well
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>>565437323
spirit snatch is good on him thoughbeit
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>>565437323
Lifestrike is a 2.5 second 60% slow on a 4 second cooldown, potentially longer if you get improved duration for your 1 silence your 2 bleed your ult and stalker+toxic
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>>565437443
rend counts as light melee, only making snatch 70% effective (2200 souls) while you paid 3200 souls for the 100% effectiveness
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>gun paradox 5400hp 30minutes into the game
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>>565437507
>4 second cooldown
6 seconds because rend is light melee
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>>565437323
It'd be fine if it counted as a heavy, but the fact that it counts as a light makes it feel like ass.
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>>565437195
I would love legendaries for like 12k in ultra-long games the same way Dota has its ultra-lategame items
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>need to constantly be looking at the enemies items every second now as doorman
Amazing patch.
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>>565437834
>Think I've killed Doorman
>Wasn't checking his items 24/7
>Cheat Death
Deserved.
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>riposte
>counterspell
>indominable
>ethereal shift
I am the GOD of i-frames
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>dashfernus and dynamo barely got nerfed
wow dude phew glad we waited a month for that
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>>565438093
>Dynamo is Gaben's OC
>Infernus is the OC of the one black guy at Valve
There's your answer
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>>565438234
Good choices honestly.
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>>565437443
>snatch
Lmao what. You get strike if you're going spirit drifter for more rend burst, never snatch.
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What hero does he play?
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>>565438554
Vindicta
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>>565438554
He exposed himself as a girlcock lover, therefore he only plays Celeste and Silver because they are trans
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Stupid Mod manager, one time a update happens, one mod breaks. Also I keep hearing this lame ass jingle melee charge instead of the standard one. Wonder if I should clear thr cache again.
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Have they changed the matchmaking to create the most unfun one-sided uncontestable games possible because almost every game I've played since the new patch has been atrocious
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>Torment pulse bad
>Tankbuster bad
>Stalker bad
I hate this fucking general
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>>565419284
needs more nerfs actually, same with haze
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>>565436406
why are billies always so bad at ignoring parries when compared to other melee niggers
feels like i always kill them way too easily and i'm not even good at parrying
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>play support ivy
>have to be a lane janny every time because no one will clear lanes otherwise making my support items useless
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>>565438862
I literally haven't been parried on a heavy melee in weeks, it's only on random lights vs random parries which are bullshit and should not stun.
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>>565435160
larping in character (especially in VC) is based
no yuri is not in character for anybody
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NO MORE MELTING OBJECTIVES
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>>565408558
It's not easy being Wight.
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>>565429101
a downgrade, the previous one was more intense and looked great with the hand having so much power it exploded
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>Block one singular instance of CC ever 1 minute
>Can be baited out with any basic CC like Seven stun or silence wave
>/dlg/ is losing their minds
This item is shit why are you retards crying
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>>565438997
>throw one grenade, get close enough to collect souls
>lane jannied
>fly away
Oh no, how horrible.
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>>565439038
Except Vyper but she's a slut so it's okay.
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>>565438997
whenever i play ivy i end up being the lane janny, thats when i just build stupid shit like full melee or rush cursed relic
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>>565438234
>Dynamo is Gaben's OC
Gaben's OC would unironically just be Sand King imported into Deadlock
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Alright, I'm willing to try spirit drifter.
Anyone have a build?
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Its so pathetic how people rage in this game "YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING [YOU] IM GONNA SAY THIS IN ALL CHAT THE ENEMY TEAM WILL JOIN IN WITH ME! LOOK GUYS [YOU] DIDNT DO ANYTHING IDIOT STUPID DUUUMMBB meanwhile everyone is ignoring the seething dumbass
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>>565439658
Got a guy extremely mad the other day, claiming I was what was dragging our team down. He all-chatted trying to talk shit while I just mostly ignored him. Enemy team laughed and told him I was the only threat, and they had been chain CCing me because of that. He didn't take it well.
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Can you still pick up someone holding urn as Ivy? why did some british guy yell at me for never doing urn as ivy
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>>565439742
>Can you still pick up someone holding urn as Ivy?
yes
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>>565439742
You can but it slows you to a crawl. Not really worth it.
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This is what Vindicta should look like.
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>>565439348
536117
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No&Skill is such a fucked hero yet I think I've lost every match as him.
>Can't die
>Do decent damage
>Roll around bullying people for 40 minutes
>Lose
Is there some curse that makes the rest of your team retarded when you queue this hero?
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Bebop bros... its fucking over.
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>>565435827
why are you buying it?
the flat movespeed on hit is good for chasing people down and the wallhack effect has been clutch sometimes when i'm LoSing someone around a pillar.
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>>565440423
not a fan of how the bullet dmg reduction also affected Melee bebop which was honest
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The only and real reason not to buy Stalker is that item's activation is clunky as fuck. It often won't proc. Trust me on this, I am a Dwiftah main.
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>>565440423
He's one of the most dishonest heroes he deserves it
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Holy fuck Valve HATES pick heroes kek.
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I saw they changed a few icons. Did they also finally give Silver her own animations ?
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>You can counterspell being put in Doorman's ult now
Delete this hero at this point, he's fucking worthless
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>defend walker
>WHY YOU LEAVE LANE WHY YOU NO BROOOL WITH US?!
the stupidity in this game can power russia for centuries
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>>565440902
No but using abilities in your ult doesn't stop your slashes now
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>frenzy is just blood tribute without the hp drain now
what did they mean by this?
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Think im gonna play shadow weave rush abrams
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>>565439126
Please chuck silence waves at me so I get 46 seconds off Black Hole's cd
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>>565441045
erm sweetie the urn gives you more souls than walker learn the game
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>dynamo ults
>i counter it by stunning him with stone form
>he wakes back up and HIS ULT CONTINUES!
what are these devs on no joke wtf?!
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Not complaining about the Infernus 2 nerf, but he really doesn't do anything outside of his 2 right now. It literally accounted for ~4/5ths of all his damage even if you were trying to build around afterburn or his 1. They should've nerfed his 2 even harder damage-wise so it could focus as an escape and buffed his afterburn (but make it require more shots to proc). Anyways, I'm glad I won't have to play against him for awhile now at least.
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I never had a single enjoyable game with Apollo in either team.
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>seven STILL untounched
some nigger will still try and tell you he is dishonest btw
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>>565441980
Seven is extremely honest
He has a high winrate because he's honestly good
No tricks, no bullshit, just big damage in big circles
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Maybe I should learn how to play Seven, to gatekeep ultbot retards.
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>>565441980
He's not dishonest, but he's not an honest, hardworking man's character. He turtles and plays slow until he's too big to be stopped.
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>>565439002
>Melee items give 70% effectiveness on light melee and on melee abilities
>Parry gives 100% of the downsides
The parry schizo might be retarded, but parries having that much of an effect on light melee is really fucking shit, should be 1,5 second stun and no damage vulnerability for light melee parries.
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>>565442372
>Waaaah! Baby wanna spam light melee and not get punished! Waaaaah!
Next patch the downsides are doubled on light melee.
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>>565442443
t. is using autoparry cheats
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what is it with parrytranny vehemently defending parries like a rabid dog?
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>>565442672
He's the parryschizo, he's using scripts and is afraid he will drop to his real rank if parries get nerfed.
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>>565442672
>>565442928
I'm a different type of so called schizo in this thread but I always wonder - why the fuck do guys always cry about being pro and against parries? Do they impact your games so much?
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>Gun niggers saying that it was actually spirit that was overpowered and gun needed buffs.
>Big patch
>Gun scaling nerfed hard
>Suppressor gun damage nerfed
>Return fire buffed
>Split shot nerfed
>Basically gun got targeted with way more overall nerfs than spirit did
>Bunch of purples buffed
>Bunch of spirit reses nerfed
So much for gun being 'weak' huh?
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parry schizo won
/dlg/ lost
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Okay I'm filtering the term parry
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>>565441980
The only dishonesty is my stupid teammate with the stun on him running blindly into the rest of us without dispelling it.
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>>565443256
we're gonna start saying farry now
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>>565442443
You realise light melee does little to no damage? On Yamato for example light melee does about as much damage as an M1 headshot, a 1,5 second stun would be enough to punish that type of shit damage, 2,75 plus damage vulnerability just means death, which in turn makes light melee the shittiest possible damaging option. The heavy melee/parry play works pretty well (no matter how much parry schizo wants to seethe about people reacting to the most distinct sound in the game) since both sides of the exchange can do a bunch of mindgames and when you get parried from trying to heavy melee its a clear case of you being retarded and not baiting out a parry first, but light melee is just random, so for it to carry the same punishment is shit
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any leak on the next big update or nothing?
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>>565443256
okay question for you filter fags too - why do you gotta hide stuff? Does it bother you so much? Are you trans IRL? Does HRT make you unable to hear other opinions on the internet? I'm really curious since you guys always gotta announce it too.
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>>565443210
They're fucking bullshit and render the inherently weakest damage type even weaker
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Here's your seven for the day /dlg/, do you like his build? Faggot went 0/10 I hate russians so much
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>>565443457
Then don't light melee and don't get parried. It's not rocket science.
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>>565441351
That wouldn't work. It takes almost his entire starting magazine to hit afterburn unless he hits a bunch of headshots. Titanic is a mandatory item for that because otherwise you'd never ignite anyone. The real answer is to remove charges from his 2 but decrease the number of shots to ignite.
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>>565443565
Good build if he went indominable instead of unstoppable
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>>565443565
people are exceptionally dumb today no idea why
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Frenzy is now basically a late game silver item kek.
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>>565443565
>ultbot seven
You were never winning. But that gave me an idea though.
Trophy Collector Culsac CULTIVATIONGAWD Seven.
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>>565443983
Always has been
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>>565443565
>Ult build
Fucking retarded, three 6,4k items to still not do any damage when you could just build around his gun steroid and get the best DPS in the game
>>565443576
I stopped using light melee a while ago but it just doesnt make any sense for something in the game to just be a useless noobtrap, especially since if you look at any guide or streamerfag play any character like Abrams Billy Yamato etc theyll give "advice" to sneak in light melee, and it just gets people to become unintentional griefers. Im legit in favour of just removing light melee all together if it continues giving the same stun from parry just to reduce the amount of people getting killed like retards and griefing games.
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>>565444243
It was even more depressing since we had victor on our team as well
Legit just wanted to kill myself. Tried so hard but I rolled the worst carries possible
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>>565443487
>oh man this homeless fuck keeps shitting in my lawn
>I could put the blinds up so at least I don't see him shitting in my lawn
>OOOI DONT YOU FACKIN PUT THOSE BLINDS UP YA GOTTA WATCH ME SHIT IN YOUR LAWN
how do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>565444301
That's part of the mindgame to slip in light melees. You punish people when you call it right, and get punished when you call it wrong.
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>>565444289
No because when you pop werewolf you lost the frenzy buff because the heal made you go up past the buff threshold
Now that it's a CD and duration based you keep the frenzy buff even if werewolf's health pops you up past the threshold.
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Indomitable is counterspell for retards isn't it
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If you max 2 first on Seven, isn't he a pretty strong ganker?
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>>565443778
I actually think he needs a mag buff too, I just didn't want to say it. Afterburn without a scaling buff still would do 1/5th the damage of his dash even if you're triggering it on every mag. I'd just prefer an afterburn that's harder to trigger but does more damage to one that's easy to trigger but does no damage.. Anyone can just buy dispel so I don't know that it would fix him anyways. His 2 definitely shouldn't be charged regardless, I agree on that
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>>565444489
Counterspell but it pops during channels you can't parry as well.
So dynamo needs TWO interrupts to stop his black hole now (:
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>>565444504
By the time you can do that everyone else is already a better ganker than you. Seven is a farmlord, wave jannie master, jungle jigger. You can gank with him with level 1 stun perfectly fine, and it's better to just do that then slurp jungle instead of trying to be a pick character.
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>>565444469
You were always going to get sent right back below the buff threshold anyway though
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>>565444372
you cannot be white with such a comparison
There is a difference between words about a game, and physical acts.
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>victor aura buffed again

Time to go heresy build
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>>565443487
Filterfags are actually redditors, they can't stand not being in a hugbox
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>>565444504
most people can movement their way to a tower before the stun goes off.
you'd have to actually wait and hide until someone uses all of their stamina to actually gank with it.
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can you give me an Ivy build?
wanna try her out for the first time
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>CC and debuffs so prominent literally everyone buys the 4 items to negate them in every build
Maybe they should just rework cc and debuffs
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>Lash can't even ultbot in endgame anymore.
wtf
Doorman ult being cSpelled-able now is funny though.
>>565444776
Lol, no silver was buying frenzy unless they're retarded.
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>>565445853
This dude speaking crazy monkey talk.
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>buff holliday's lasso
>add an item in the same patch to make it basically useless now
???
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Mods are cheats.
Filters are mods.
Ergo filters are cheats.
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>>565445924
>cast or have your team cast silence wave
>use your ult
Late game they could have bought unstoppable and pressed it as soon as they heard deathslam start, so I don't know wtf you're talking about.
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>>565446018
Buy Silence Wave
Yoshi is no longer asking
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i used my refresher and needed it again so i sold it and bought it again to reset cooldown... it doesnt work locktards, it was foolish of me to think it would work, i threw 3200 soul on the trash
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>>565444504
why not pick apollo at that point, his stun is longer and they cant dispel magic it
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>>565446018
use slow hex activating indomidable and then laso them
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>Sad that there is now an automatic counterspell item as Mo
>Realize now I can rape and less risk of CC stopping me
Hmmmm
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Graves cunny...
Mina cunny...
Vindicta cunny...
Uoohhhhhh
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Why did they nerf Shadow Weave when it was literally the only way to have fun as Bebop beyond hook fishing
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>>565446301
It used to work, along with healing rite so you could heal in lane, sell it and heal again, this was before the heal trooper & item cost change so it was worth it at times
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>>565408773
>Graves: "The healer minion heals our own minions"
No they don't
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Any good Ivy builds?
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>>565446753
I liked it better when I could use it to jumpscare people. I guess the fuck not now
new changes suck, make the radius smaller again
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>>565408773
If a nigger start complaining in lane I just mute and afk farm
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what's the best build for seven?
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Healing Nova or Rescue Beam?
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>>565447562
unironically go to street brawl for a bit, come back, study the builds of other players (make sure they are recently updated) if you really want to minmax what the best possible build is for them
sometimes the public builds will give you gold, most of the time it's just trash or irrelevant shit
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The movement sucks in this game
It blows my mind that anyone says otherwise
Least engaging part of the game
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>>565447562
Egg
Cultist sac
Trophy collector
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>>565447014
They used to, so the confusion makes sense.
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>>565446654
>Graves BUNNY
>Mina BUNNY
>Vindicta BUNNY
Don't worry, you'll turn back.
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>>565447014
It does. When you pick up a heal pack it heals your own minions.
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The movement is AMAZING in this game
It blows my mind that anyone says otherwise
Most engaging part of the game
Feels like I'm playing the Mario 64 of Hero Shooters
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>>565447936
Alr that was funny I'll admit that
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>>565447936
He should turn heroes into anthro bunny girls
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>>565447936
Swear to God the only people I've seen consistently having fun in this game are Sinclair mains. No matter how bad their character is they're doing retard shit and having a blast, and usually winning too.
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so who were the defecto winners of the patch
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>>565447585
I'd say nova is better very early in the game since it's a flat heal vs beam's % heal, it also has better stats and can heal your troopers.
beam kinda blows nova out of the water later on, especially since an untimely death of a teammate can cost you the game.
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>>565448193
apparently ivy i guess but what the fuck is a good ivy build nowadays?
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>they added linkens sphere
now let me cast it on my teammates and add lotus orb
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Mina chads

how are we feeling?
>Spirit burn buff
>indomitable
>better vitality scaling
>+ a lot of her kit is dmg is based on max hp such as tankbuster, rake, toxic bullets
How this new item affect our builds? what's current t4 priority?
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>>565448167
because with sinclair there truly is no "ONE" meta build with him because of how versatile his abilities are
It's also just fun to use your 2 to get out of positions you're most definitely out-positioned in
He's also just fun to play, idk how to explain it better than that
One of the only characters in this game that makes you engage with a character's abilities like "hm, is this a good distance for using my ability? should I go bolt or rabbit? there is a seven, so should I go for max copy upgrades?"
there is a surprising amount of depth to sinclair, and since he is considered to be "trash" and doesn't rely on meta at all, you can just have fun with him however you want
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>>565448371
Goddamn has this bitch ever been anything but SSS+ deluxe tier? Every time I come back she's still top tier lmao
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>>565447585
Beam every time
Nova is only good for early retard fights
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>>565447941
It doesn't actually anymore. Just tested.
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wtf is m1nigger talk like a normal person
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>>565448167
They get their character every game and he's goofy to play
There's no reason to get upset while playing Sinclair
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>>565447562
531083
I like this one a lot, hasn't been updated for todays patch but its been feeling really good for me
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>>565448731
oogabooga "my team vs their team" speak for gun damage.
People for some reason have fucking tribalized Gun vs Spirit damage of all things.
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>>565448193
dynamo and kelvin
literally got the lighest slaps on the wrist
indomitable affects doorman's ult but not dynamo's ult
you know what they should've done with indomitable instead?
>make it the only T5 item in the game: 12,800 souls
>but you are completely immune to every hero's ult in their game, just not their other abilities
>15% spirit resist only, no bullet resist
much more straightforward, you can negate other people's ults yeah, but it costs a fuckton of souls to do, and it might hurt your build in the long run if you're not careful with when you should get it
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>>565448289
>>565447585
Thanks guys
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All they needed to was nerf Infernus, nerf Dynamo, remove Graves and parries, buff Silver, and it would have been the perfect patch
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>>565448723
Wait, there is a noticeable health increase after picking one back up, it just doesn't happen when trooper AI is off so testing was fucked.
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>>565448594
Spirit burn always because it makes a funny sound

>>565448798
genuinely such a funny character, you get to play a psuedo-new character each game (different lineup of ults to use) and nothing beats the feeling of playing sinclair against graves in lane and popping 2-3 gravestones per 1 of hers, always makes the graves players seethe in all chat
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do these redditard niggas want doorman to be g tier or some shit
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>>565448975
I just love they saw just how bullshit Dynamo was and reduced his scaling slightly on his 1 and gave his two a 20 second CD instead of 19 like what the fuck is it with these devs and Dynamo?
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>>565449043
>remove parries
but... they did do that, anon...
indomitable activates when you get parried too
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>>565449092
Counterspell works against him now btw.
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>>565448193
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>>565449146
make the dispel bullshit on his 2 apply only to his team but not to himself
so dynamo players are encouraged to be a little more selfless; if they want to get rid of debuffs, buy dispel magic
It's like they reduced damage scaling for his 1, made the 2 longer, but they forgot to make the values larger than anything past a 1% difference, so the changes effectively do fuck all to his kit, and solved nothing
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>>565449164
remove panties*
Now we've got a patch going.
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>>565448193
Nobody really?
Gun fags just lost.
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i'm going to go gun ivy since no other build is well made
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>>565449591
they actually didn't
the gun changes did fuckall, because everything was like a 0.000001 value decrease in their bullet growth or whatever
I tested vyper dmg before and after the update, I don't even feel a difference to her damage in the slightest
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>>565449092
He's basically techies
He can be total shit and they'll still cry about him
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>>565448371
>support ivy
>ult spam ivy
>gun ivy
>melee ivy
>mystery meat ivy that just builds whatever the fuck they feel like but still win
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what's a good poll maker
I want to see if I can make a community tier list for this gen via a poll with slots of which tier the characters belong in
but idk what website would offer that sort of thing anonymously
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>Play once a day or every few days
>Been winning more often
I'm noticing
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Dashfernus is still cancer to play against.
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>>565450079
ughhrrrreee
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>>565450290
Who would have though even if you nerf the damage (wasn't enough) a get out of jail free card that also functions as zoning / damage would be good
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I love being forced to pretend Vyper's fine as she is.
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>>565449092
>Needing stamina mastery to exit doorman ult
RedditGAWDS cannot into schmoovement
>>565449217
>>565449971
The only way people wouldn't seethe about Doorman's kit is if his kit healed the enemy
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>AoEslop Paradox
>AoEslop Infernus (to be fair not that afterburn fernus was much more fun)
>Gun Lash
>Gun Bebop
>Gun Graves (yes it's not as good but still her best build)
>GUN FUCKING POCKET
Not only has the meta been absolute ASScancer but over the last few patches they've completely raped the identities of a variety of heroes, I don't know what the fucking thought process is behind this. I know half the reason why is because HP is still so high for whatever reason (unless people are retarded and aren't buying greens)

It feels like you either have to build gun, or AoE gigacancer that you can spam all over objectives burst as a playstyle is basically dead except in the very early game.
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>>565451041
I just ask they make his wall hitboxes a little less awkward. Feels random on if I can get the jump off the left wall in there.
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So every hero is just going to build indomitable now? Why wouldn't you?
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>>565451453
The fact that it synergizes so well with Dynamo really just tell you who Gabe mains in this game
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>>565450623
too stronk or too weuk or what
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>>565451627
She needs F cup tits. They're keeping my girl down for no reason.
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>see you tomorr- ACK!
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>>565451453
>>565451284
>every hero builds gun
>every hero buys indomitable
wow, great meta iceFRAUD
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>>565451757
it will go exactly like what was foretold below
>>565395653
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>>565451453
i just simply don't get hit by stuns, it's that easy.
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>>565451689
She'd grind them down to AAA cups while sliding on the ground
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>you now hit max boons at 43k instead of 50k
dumb
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Mirage is such a worthless character, remove him from the game
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>>565452037
Nah she oils. New T3 upgrade where she leaves an oily trail that you slip on if you follow her.
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>>565451757
>10,000 players lost in a week BEFORE one of the worst patches in the game's history
at this rate, there won't be enough players to make cosmetics for
good job icetard
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GIMME AN IVY BUILD PLEASE
GRR
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>>565452264
The silver buff and parry nerf patch will save us.
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How come in fanart people tend to give Infernus cornrows when he's either bald / has a buzzcut with the same glowing tattoos from his arms on his scalp
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why has no one emailed gabe yet about this update being absolute shit that is tanking the player count as we speak
surely someone would be brave enough to reach out via an email, even if he ignores it?
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>>565452483
Why do you care about fanarts? These 'artists' usually make blacked troon shit like here: >>565410614
does not matter what they do
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>>565452270
Every T4 green and echo shard
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Armpit hole for easy huffing
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>Shiv: Alt fire knockback reduced by 10%
? What was the point of this Yoshi
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>>565452790
You think since his bar is tight on cash he'd take some more risque drink requests from the patrons to help foot the bill?
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>oses mina build includes indomitable as a core
I'm not getting mo ulted dude
yeah the cooldown reduction is great for the ult but the cd is pretty low, we're getting into the low 10s of reduction for a conditional 6k item
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>>565453270
It also protects you from silence. If you get silenced how are you going to bats away.
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>>565453270
>6k HP invest. HP invest buffed this patch as well.
>No reaction needed.
>400+ shield.
>Can be used with dispel and/or counterspell atop it all
It's a very, very good Mina item considering you're so frail and rely on your 2 and counter items to not pop like a balloon. Of which the 2's CD gets dropped when your shield pops to boot.
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>>565452507
no trust me dynamo winning entire games by himself is healthy
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>>565453656
odd way of spelling 'gabe newell'
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>infernus barely touched
>dynamo barely touched
this game is not gonna survive into the beta if these devs keep doing stupid fucking shit like this just had a game with infernus + Dynamo what the fuck do you want us to do against that? Cant do mid boss cant do urn cant do jackshit
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Your friday game enemy team chud no we wont add a draft system just do better chuddy
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>>565454326
yoshi: play more...
yoshi: maybe you'll get better matchmaking if you play more... who knows?
yoshi: muahahahaha
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>>565454073
>>infernus barely touched
>30% scaling nerf and flame dash walker melt being nuked is barely touched.
Stop exaggerating.
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>>565454680
shut tf up yoshi
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>team complains "we're getting kills but not pushing"
>get a perfect opportunity to push
>they grab urn and leave me alone at the walker, I die and they lose the urn fight
si senor
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>>565453372
there are very few silences that can't be cleansed with dispel magic, and for the few that can't, it doesn't work with apollo at all and only the first mina bat is stopped, it silences you after that anyway so it's... ivy and that's it, that I can remember

you can ignore silence most of the time because you can still use stamina too (on less squishy heroes not mina of course), honestly if it didn't work with silence it'd be a buff to me, I'd hate to lose it on a silence, I always wanted dispel magic that works with ultimates but this is just weaker unstoppable again

the thing is I don't think this item is meta on everyone like people are making it out to be

>>565453621
you'd still build at least ethereal shift or/and cheat death too, I feel like she's already unkillable enough late game, yeah more is even better but I don't know about it being core
for example I just played against venator ivy mokrill sinclair mirage and pocket, realistically how many uses I'm getting out of it unless they buy knockdown and I don't dispel it
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E shift should pause your ability cooldowns.
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>>565413065
A circle that cinches up quickly then you pull everyone who was inside. Kino.
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>>565452270
fargareko
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>>565453270
>tfw was thinking the same when I saw it
based
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so is trophy collector better or worse?
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>>565455484
It's busted OP everyone buys it free 4k souls nerf imminent
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>>565436223
I used to think the icon was a weird crowned demon thing, only now I realized it was a hand
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>>565408773
>uhm why didn't the character with a gun range on par with melee range just attack the healing minion they needed from safety while I sit over here practically afk.
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>>565452790
yjk he lets himself get fucked behind the counter in his bar, whore.
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>>565436223
Yeah I don't like this change, looks worse.
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Should we call the characters in Deadlock, "ritualists"?
Because calling them "heroes" when a lot of them are either anti-heroes, almost-regular joes or even villains or crooks is kind of strange feeling.
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>mfw finding the full support paige in the middle of a team fight while her team is distracted
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First ever game on Ivy
lmao I got hard carried
I was so clueless what I should do. I figure I just gotta be annoying for the opposite team but my damage was worthless it seems.
I threw mo into a big fight once which was fun
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>>565456010
No.
DotA has literal Satan and he's a hero.
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>>565456065
The big meme with Ivy is to vortex web people into your kudzu + stone form.
Also drone strike with your ult + lightning scroll to be annoying cunt
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>>565456065
>haze and warden lose lane against A PARADOX AND A CELESTE
thats it for me today im going to play total war warhammer abandoned that shit spared my team the agony of playing 40 minutes of that i'll take my penalty
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>Dynamo tries to setup for black hole
>Hit him with curse
>Watch my Shiv and Abrams rape and cum all over his body
>Watch his team flame him in all chat
It's that easy
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>>565456010
cool name. but most people wouldn't make the switch to calling them that unfortunately
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>>565408773
lol is that gorth
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>>565456010
well since they're fighting on behalf of someone they're champions...
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>>565454735
a youtube short told me the urn was important i had to run it
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>>565436970
That's not that bad
>lategame
the rescue beam buy I think was him giving up on being useful.
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>>565456025
One time I saw an Abrahams appear from a split second, where he shoulder-rammed our Paige away into an alley. One second later she died. That was pretty sinister.
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>>565456217
>not parrying the curse
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Is anyone else losing the will to play? This patch sucks
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>>565408773
>people here actually look at shorts / tikky tokkies
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>>565456332
Probably, gravesfags are always the most useless niggers in the game.
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>>565456679
DISHONESTY
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>>565456332
>redeems himself somewhat by becomeing less of a nigger
>doesn't matter he already cemented himself as the generals punching bag
lol; lmao
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What am i not understanding about venator? am i just supposed to afk farm or go fight with my ult
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>>565457167
afk farm since no roamer can kill you with your le epic shotgun combo doing 10000000 damage for free
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>>565456716
the knowledge we'll have to deal with dynamo for an entire month yeah killed all desire to play
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>>565457281
>gutshot enemy
>they bounce off wall without getting stunned
Every time
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>>565457459
This shit seems so inconsistent, I've been the person shotgunned and the Ven doing the stun and it happens. Maybe server tickrate or latency related?
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what is the lane minion kill priority generally speaking? melee first, then heal, then the rest?
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Thank you yoshi we really needed ANOTHER trophy collector meta.
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>>565457646
keep the melee alive to parry it and bait a heavy melee from your enemy thinking you wasted a parry then parry them
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>>565457680
>nonstop BROOOL
>everyone gets their items
I don't see the problem compared to other item/hero metas.
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>>565457646
Heal depends on how much health you have, if you and your lane partner are both full there's literally no point killing the heal creep and you're literally griefing by doing it and I will buy egg + cultist sac + trophy collector and jungle for the rest of the game if my lane griefer does it.
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>>565456025
*parries*
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>>565457816
Farming is more fun than this retarded brool bullshit
EVERYONE is buying trophy collector and ganking lanes at 3 minutes
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>>565456025
I think it's wild Paige build's don't have stamina mastery as a core item for her desu.
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>>565457920
kek what rank? I deranked a bunch due to playing with a friend so my games don't have it yet.
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>>565456868
what's your problem nigger? I cannot learn a new hero? suck my dick
>>565456332
hello tourist
>>565457075
>punching bag
nigga, go back to your /dlg/ trooncord. Stop trying to samefag like a retard for no reason. You aren't fooling anyone.
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>>565457950
She doesn't need it because she's never close in a fight.
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>>565458243
Graves is a hero for retarded tranny shitters.
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>>565458243
>>565458306
nvm, I thought you tagged my first time Ivy game SS >>565456065
Still you are samefagging and it shows.
(It's so hot in here and it's only May. I gotta turn on AC soon)
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>>565458070
Phantom 4
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>>565458243
I apparently fooled you into thinking he's samefagging. So yes I'd say I fooled you, try not being so fucking angry all the time man and people wouldn't hate you.
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>>565458617
Feels good to be in low Oracle for once. I'm sure it will reach here soon though.
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>reactive has a scaling of 1.1 spirit
Huh, didn't even notice that. This item is really good for spirit heroes.
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Trophy Collector is legit an insane item now
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Anyone have the updated version of the "time between each patch -> estimated time of next patch" image already?
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>>565458831
Its fucking dogshit, sometimes I get into low ascendant lobbies and it's horrible
Hazes are buying trophy collector and when people do their boxslop they gank lanes at 3-5 minutes
Barely any farming is happening because everyone wants TC stacks
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>>565459150
I'm convinced TC should never be a good item and should just be scrapped. It's either garbage or meta defining with no inbetween.
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me? when they ask me about m1gger items I just select 5 so they will nerf gunfaggots to the ground
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>>565459090
>46k at 28 minutes
lmao this has literally nothing to do with TC
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does unstoppable cancel parry stun?
asking for a friend
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>>565445853
Woah now anon, let's not have any crazy ideas now. We have to give Shiv 2 of the most obnoxious spammable debuffs in the game, and also let him be the tankiest character in the game, and also have some of the best movement in the game.
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>>565459436
they want it to be good because they want to see how it affects the behavior of players.
they can do math, they know it's good.
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>>565460207
Yes but the parry still block the attack which is fucking BULLSHIT
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>>565454735
Basically my last match.
I don't hate my team but like come on, we have a numbers advantage, they're on 40 second cooldown, mid is up, and everyone's like "nah".

I'm just sitting there in mid alone with my dick out and have to do the slow walk back out.
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>>565458657
Why the fuck would I care if people like me? I'm not a woman or HRT infested tranny to worry about that stuff.
Also it's funny since it was me who had posted the youtube link with that graves and the crying twat.
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>>565460809
>>565460809
>>565460809
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>>565460789
why'd you change your filename you faggot?
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>>565460789
then why do you constantly make rage posts seeking affirmation and sympathy?
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>>565460789
>I'm not a woman or HRT infested tranny to worry about that stuff.
Than stop acting like one.
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>>565460887
to fuck with filterfags like you
>>565460964
I make them cuz I'm angry or upset, not because I want adoration from /dlg/ trooncord niggers like u
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>>565460008
You mean the sprint speed letting me cross the map in 3 seconds has nothing to do with me snowballing that hard?
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>>565454680
>he thinks it's the dash that's the problem
>not the cocktail that has 10 different debuffs to enemies and 10 other buffs to infernus while being a charged ability for some fucking reason

you use the dash to escape or go in not for actual damage
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>>565461532
No Dash WAS a problem.
>Melts you in 1v1
>Melts objectives
>Melts boss
>Melts your entire team.
>Escape tool packaged into it
>Heals infernus for all his health because he popped infuser.
>Has charges
"Hurr durr dash was never the problem"
Shut up faggot.
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>>565461209
>angry or upset
My bad, that makes so sense. Typing during a match doesn't go well, especially when it's SO HOT today. Cannot think straight.
What I had meant to say is that I simply share my annoyance with you based on moments - or whole matches, that I get to experience while playing. Think of it as my journey with deadcock.
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>>565433481
? It's a 1600 item now and I got 5k out of it. It literally paid for itself and another 3k item while providing a fuck ton of sprint on a roaming support.
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>>565439742
>>565439819
The only time you do it is when turn in is heavily contested and you wanna just dunk them on the last stretch. It slows you to shit but it's useful for that.
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>>565440951
what you actually want is to remove counterspell which I agree with. no it's not okay that you can press parry and dodge several abilities, items, ults
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>>565450082
it's as clear as day this game has engagement optimization. they just want to maximise play time and try bait you with free wins then hand you the most tremendous fucking retards if you play alot to get you pissed about recovering rank. they're the devil and I hope valve devs get cancer.
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>>565452040
actually it's 40600 instead of 49600
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>>565457950
Mine does because I'm not a fucking retard who thinks top daily builds are good. Guardian Ward -> Stamina Mastery
SIMPLE AS.
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>>565408773
>DL Noobs Tips #number - Check out me Totally Pwning this whining scrub!! (I act like a sarcastic woman)
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>>565452878
no, mina tried to bribe him back when she was 16 after her fake id didn't work but he didn't budge
>ain't no amount of money worth risking jezebel's shutting down



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