>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>565460809
first for Marci
Sex with Venator
Your team:>Paradox>Holliday>Gun Rem>Celeste that doesn't know movement and doesn't do urnsTheir team:>Dynamo>Infernus>Kelvin>Seven
Why isn't Mina white?
>>565538776you know why
I like playing random in street brawl just for the general hero variety and double rerolls, but man it keeps giving me Mo and Krill. I swear to god random gives you them so often, maybe because nobody picks them in the gamemode, because they suck. I also just hate to play them
>>565538527Can someone explain to me why they haven't reverted the lifestrike nerfs? It fucking sucks now you're better off never upgrading the t1 versionIt already got hard outscaled anyway, at least let it be strong early/midMy only guess is that they're afraid of another melee meta but that was from what I understood ages ago.
NEVER give up! Always believe in yourself!- Rem, probably
>>565538859Random heroes aren't actually random that's why. It's weighed towards low pickrate heros, supports, and picks. You will literally never randomly get Haze etc with it on
>>565538865>Getting lifestrike as Billy when he has that shit built in (blasted) and indominable and/or witchmail mean that you never have item cooldowns
how did apex legends perfect the ping wheel like 7 years ago and every game since has had shit pings
>>565538865All the melee items should upgrade to an ACTUALLY useful t4 version.
Paige should be fatter and have a tail.
There is literally zero reasons why Dynamo has 3 stamina AND the second highest health in the game after Mohammed, when he has an i-frame teleport and the best ult in the game
>>565539346Gaben's self insert
>>565537768>grenade farms camps extremely fast and has built in antiheal>shotgun and trap both work well in tight spaces aka midboss, and hectic objective fights, also gives you an out against dive heroes because they won't want to chase you into tight spaces, plus having two non-ult cc abilities as a carry is pretty premium>ult still puts more fragile heroes on notice, 2 bolts will take the enemy's strongest m1gger or spirit nuker out of the fight even if it doesn't kill themi'm in the opposite camp venator is my favorite hero and i have never at any point felt like he was weak but i'm also not a NIGGER who mains heroes and spends all his time lamenting how epically weak and deserving of buffs they are
>>565539346would 2 stamina dynamo be too damning of a nerf?
>give items gimped stats>you get stacking bonuses for building themwhat's the point of thiswhy not just make items actually useful by themselves
>>565539247Would be based as fuck but you would have m1 sissies crying from their boosted soap opera
add the piano to the regular mode
>>565539460Tbh I wish more people were willing to acknowledge what's strong about their mains. It doesn't matter how strong, or how weak a character ever is in the meta. It's always harping on a particular weakness, overselling weaknesses in general, downplaying strengths, and saying anyone who disagrees is just wrong and bad.
add runed gauntlets to standard
>>565539794>don't add these to the regular mode because LE BALANCE???>game already has dogshit balance with random changes generated by chatgptbravo iceturd
>here cums the calvary
im afking in base dude im so sick of this im in another game where I have to defend BOTH walkers while my team brawls non stop on blue this is so infuriariating man I should just stop playing this game at this point
>>565540037That's the consequences of buffing trophy collector>The playerbase is already like 80% brooltards>They buff the brooltard playstyle (not by much lol, waves and camps still give way more souls than trophy collector)>Now 95% of the playerbase are brooltards
genuinely, what is the correct play to do if the enemy team groups up and deathballs down midit's not like you can just let them have the towers for free. in this situation a brooooool is inevitable no?
>>565540342end and go next
>>565540342dependent on hero, but generally rat
>>565540342if literally their entire team is in mid you kill a side walker
>>565540342take literally everything that isn't mid
>drag enemy to walker>it doesn't stomp>at all>it dies before it stomps oncewhat the fuck did they do to walkers? they're not threats anymore they are totally useless for defense other than to stall the wave for 30 seconds. and even then troopers do so much damage to walkers now.
>walker>is immobile 100% of the time
>>565540342You're meant to take other objectives but if they were ahead before or from deathballing one person can go back to completely stuff out attempts to splitpush, usually you just lose.
>tier 4 gun item that turns off abilities on dealing damagewhen are we getting a tier 4 spirit item that turns off guns on dealing damage
Silver's MASSIVE tail.
>>565541569Disarming hex is a T3 and Curse also disarms.
A hero like me never gets nervous at match start. Oh, who am I kidding, I've got butterflies
>>565541569retardbro...
IN HERE, *I* AM KING.
>>565541668silencer silences people when you shoot at them and doesn't reduce your damage and its cooldown is per target and only 10 seconds instead of 16 or 55 seconds and also doesn't take an active item slot
>>565541829THE STREETS OF OSAKAS
I must...I must....I MUSTBROOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL
>>565539202From what I remember, the Apex devs said they played games without mics to perfect the ping system. Every game has just been imitating their system instead of trying to improve on it.
>>565541829Ettrick fumbled THAT?
>>565541854Yeah I agree gun items and heroes are generally better than spirit ones but you're moving the goalposts now
>>565541910I cant...I MUST...I CANT CONTAIN ITI MUST BROOOLLLLL
>>565541910Shitlow is fun because you can do dumb builds, but is also ass because nobody takes waves ever (including the carries)
>>565542015my original terms said "on dealing damage" and neither disarming hex or curse deal damage. i wonder why those don't but silence wave does. skillshot vs point and click?also, i guess lightning scroll does what i asked for, since stun also turns off guns
>>565542249Oh I just didn't read the end of the sentence my bad lmao
>>565537768His melee combo was a bit much but other than that I always thought he was ok. Like other anon said, this happened before with paradox and then silver glazing and also venator now. These "pro"s are all huffing addy and their ego is inflated like a dick in a penis pump, give the game time to get actually good players and it will return to it's meager size and humility.
you can just stand in infernus dash now and run at him and shoot him to kill him lmfao
>>565540805I can't even count anymore the amount of times I swapped people into walkers as paradox and they literally fucking walked back through the entire length of the walker to safety and it either tried stomping at the edge or never did at all.
>rebuttal and counterspell removed from the gamethere the game is fixed, you are welcome icefraud
>>565540805>enemy dives me under my walker>it literally never stomps and i get killed>i try to do the same at the enemy walker and it instantly stomps
my favorite schizophrenic thing ive seen walkers doing recently is animation canceling their stompthey'll do stomp, then cancel it by shooting fireballs, then go for another stomp if you walk into the radiuswhat the fuck is their problem
>>565542695they probably baited out the stomp before the dive theres a cooldown on it
>It's another "Vyper literally never slides" episodeThe consequences of her being meta...
>>565542708>Walkers animation cancelling into a stomp jk fireball jk stomp is a feature not a bug!
>kelvin walking forward with a beam doing 900 damage still isnt nerfedthese devs are so whatever man
>make veil trophy viable for 24 hours>nerf it to total dogshitMaybe just remove the item at this point?
Did they finally nerf parry hacking?Since yesterday barely anyone uses parry anymore
new creep clearing technique>buy rebuttal>spam parry in melee distance of creep clump
From which state do you guys think Silver is?
>>565543997Unironic parry downplaying lmao.>DOOD PARRIES ARE SO BAD NOBODY IS EVEN USING THEIR WIN LANE BUTTON ANYMORESureeee
>>565544225why
>>565544232state of intense arousal
another game where im the only one buying counter items thanks keep buying L > R you fucking ingrates
remove parry cheatsremove movement cheats
Seven's 1 and 2 are so cancer holy shit>Sends a ball at you, slowing and damaging you>Stun you and anyone near you in an area the size of the Sun
The community is well... *Chuckles* waking up to THAT mechanic...
>>565544605Quite literally, sincerely, unironically, genuinely, heartfelt: Just walk away.
>>565538694Calm down Mina!
>>565541624Brushy brushy
>>565544605Seven is a dishonest character that people don't care about because he's been OP for so long that people have developed Stockholm Syndrome for him>BRO HE'S HONEST!He builds toxic bullets and escalating exposure which are dishonest items
>>5655446052 should be a skillshot that either stops at max range, sticks to surfaces, or attaches to enemies. Other than that, Seven is fine.
>>565538776Arkweed isn't white either
>>565541910It's infuriating having to clear waves as Vindicta since you're obligated to brool because of your ult but your carry fucks off from side lane the moment the guardian falls to brool mid for 80% of the game. Also, why the fuck does a roamer like Vin have 2 stamina again?
>>565538527I feel like Deadlock has way too few characters with carry potential, and those carries were clearly not created equal, making it easy to get fucked hard by draft.I think the developers should abandon the idea that you have an explicitly clear cut dopamine farm carry role in a strategy game, otherwise it's just a main character brool simulator pretending to have strategy in it.
>>565544803This would be way better than the current version though
>>565544816i will never understand why grey talon gets 4 stamina despite fulfilling an extremely similar role to vindicta while she only gets 2
>>565544232Any from the south, that's all I can think of.
>>565544605just buy dispell magic for 2 and then he can never hit you with his 1
>>565544232Rem says her hair smells like bourbon so maybe Kentucky?
>>565544940To be fair, Talon does need stamina to have any mobility in his "flight" and until he stacks a lot of spirit he moves considerably slower than Vin, but 2 stamina is just absurd. They vastly overestimate the mobility flight gives her, especially since she needs LOS to kill people.
Sometimes I feel bad just relentlessly killing the hideout Abrams. Abrams is cool man I wish it was one of the sandbox dummies.
>>565544940>Is fine lane jannying because his execute his cross map>His arrows are basically better Vindicta snipe>Far more mobility, much lower flight CD as wellHe's basically always just been better Vindicta, I feel like despite all the changes she's still best as a utility / debuff spammer
>>565545237They could take a note from those hero shooters and allow the players to change into the hated hero of your choosing to strangle after a poor match.
"Quick-paced?" Who the fuck says "quick-paced?" It's "fast-paced."
What does meleeing the souls after urn delivery deny? The extra souls that are supposed to go to the urn deliverer?
Y'know what this game needs? A black scottish cyclops who pulls out a sword as his ultimate.
Tf2troons are worse than dotards
>>565545357I'd take this aswell
>>565545407Isn't Valve based in New Zealand? I don't think they speak English there.
>>565545580They're from Seattle.
>>565545580>kiwi gaben
>>565545263If we must go there...I think their dynamic made more sense when Vin had her old ult, in exchange for being slower Vin didn't actually need to farm and could itemize quickly into whatever, (carry, support, etc). Now she is kinda an assassin that transitions into a carry late game, but I just don't feel like it's particularly good compared to other carries.
I havent won a single game out of 8 :)
>>565545837I know why
>jumping up an entire color every time i win a game>if i lose one i go up by 3 numbers anywaywhat the fuck? im not even that good, i just catch waves and then because every game goes to 40 minutes i incidentally become the most fed on the team and win by pure numbersi spent 30 hours brawling or so, maybe that's catching up with me?
>>565545728I think it could work its just that every other carry besides potentially victor is comically overtuned and does everything.
im madseasonshow i love the game so much i dont explore it and only did 3 minigames in 2 years thats how much i love the game
>>565546065wrong thread osgtroon we use the reply feature here and don't spam about tranny thread celebs and john dad all day long
Lategame Warden shoots so goddamn fast.
>>565545478Broadly true, since TF2 is mostly groomed children and furries (redundant) while Dota is mostly angry ethnics in netcafes.Both good games despite the playerbases though teebeedesu
>enemy has niggernus and dynamoshit's a loss from the start
they should make vyper a bbw
>>565546581And she rolls instead of sliding
>>565546581And she's human
>>565546581t. DaQuan
now that animgraph2 is in the discussion I just noticed how impressive deadlock's animation system iswhile sliding/wall-jumping/wall-sliding you can combine it with any other animation seamlessly, like picrel
>>565546504I used to think that way but find comfort that 50% of Infernus mains are boosted animals that don't even know what the game objective is.Dynamo is a problem though.
I'm still buying TC. It's still so good for BROOOOOLers.
>>565546064I can see the value of having a carry that's very active early on, but I don't like the concept, feels as if she has to deal with way more bullshit to still be shut down with comparative ease and I really dislike how you forego your actual sniping ability later on, I believe the sniper part should hold more weight in the 'flying-sniper' combo of her character..But that's just my two cents.
indomitable status?
>>565545478Hard agree the TF2fanbase veered from "haha we're rough but we have a good time" to whiny fucks with emboy fetishes and meme addicted adhd children
>>565547828Late game you need to buy either Indomitable or Unstoppable because everyone is buying Silences in response.
>>565547828Dynamo wasn't good enough so we made an item to reduce singularity's CD by 20%
are you happy with the meta?
Is there any way to counter affliction other than counterspell and divine barrier?
>>565538776whites are ugly wrinkly crones with big noses
>>565548303Shalom
>>565548254>all ranks>24 hours
>>565548254How is McGinnis S tier again I swear this game just seesaws between McGinnis Dynamo Infernus and Warden being meta when was the last time someone random like fucking Grey Talon was meta or something?
>>565548254>McGinnisFuck no>KelvinFuck no>SevenOk>Victor No>IvyOk>DynamoNo
Okay why the fuck Is Victor back again?
Me MAMMOTH HUNTER My team BERRY PICKERS
silver sisters? Your response???
they updated it again
>>565548774Uh she um very er weak uhhhh eternus player... no idea what say
>>565548790Still a downgrade but better than the first updated icon
>>565548774uuuu my wife shitver needs buffs uuuu *takes E and starts stimming UwU*
>>565548823wish they'd do an art pass over all the icons because some look good like toxic bullets obviously and others look plain and ugly with the same background
>win game>never rank up>lose game>rank down every time
>>565548774>celeste is OP 10th patch in a rowIm done Yoshi, unless you nerf that tranny horse to useless i wont play.
this is my hero pool
>>565549351more like hero puddle
>>565549351you're cool
>>565548774My wife Silver needs buffs
>>565544940He used to have 2 stam and then his movement would scale with spirit afaik but it didn't work out very well.
I am Eternus 6, a Silver onetrick, and trans, if it matters
>>565549757I believe part of this
>>565547828Its shit, make the resists 15% or 20% and remove the cooldown parts to compensate.
>>565548254Everytime Victor is in my ascendant games he is a useless 50/50 agent even in the late gameThese stats are whack
Hello anons.Obviously you don't care (you shouldn't) but imma take a break from visiting and posting in /dlg/. The plan right now is to make it at least a month off but it might be permanent, who knows really.The reason for it is that I've ended up coming here so often that it lead to me waking up today, and the first though I had on my mind was: 'I wonder what's happening in the deadcock general'. It's a clear sigh of addiction or simple retardation so I gotta fix myself based on that.My journey with the game is not over yet though as I wish to continue improving my dogshit performance. Let's see where I end up with my hard caps thanks to physical and mental capacities. I would like to thank you all for the fun I had chatting with you. You guys are great, truly. The trve sovl of Deadlock. Keep it up lads!I'll post this message again in few hours for the last time as a closure for my own good. If you see any posts in the future claiming to be me from that point onward, let it be known they are not me.>t.Gorth 1/2(In this match I nearly threw multiple times by solo pushing like a tard. It's a miracle we won.)
who?
lol
>>565548254every hero I play is bad so no.
>>565546181Whenever I play warden I lowkey just wanna build into big spirit instead of gunslop, shooting fast with debuffs and spamming flasks (plus ulti actually being good) feels nicesadly gunslop is just waaay better
>>565550335Hot-take but they should gut Warden's gun damage and make him a spirit carry instead. Improve his spirit scaling to compensate
>>565550178i dont care. if you accidentally shoot yourself i wont care
>>565550787don't be mean to the main character nonny...
>>565548954change weighted shots's icon to the modded one and nothing else
>>565550810idc troon
>hex-lined trap is supposed to be a sneaky trap>use the ability>''HEHEHE, THEY WILL WALK RIGHT INTO THIS TRAP WHICH I PUT RIGHT AROUND THIS AREA''>enemy hears my character scream this from the top of his lungs and just shoots the trap since they now know its hereleave it to icefrog to come up with this shit
>team nonstop spams pull back all game>actual moment where they should pull back happens>they don't pull back and all dieamazing
>>565550950I'm not really sure if the enemy team can hear that line. There's plenty of lines that are team or client only.
Silver is the worst feeling gameplay I have ever experienced in any shooter or action game. How does anyone stand the gun that shoots once a week but still feels like a piece of shit because every moba for some reason needs really high ttk? and you land her full combo and still can't get the transformation off, and when you do they just walk away and they're fine.
>>565551014I spam pull back to stop my team from killing themselves.The issue is that they ignore me, and since I'm an idiot I try to cut my losses and run in with them to make the inevitable slaughter less one-sided by helping them out.This never goes well, and I pay the price every single time.
>>565548774Fake news
PULL.BACK.
Sounds good.
>>565551086every single line that your character says or sound your character makes, is heard by everyone in the game
eded tew grenishh
>>565551332No.
>>565551332simply incorrect, there are more than handful of lines that are client side only. For example when you upgrade your abilities.
>>565551332I don’t think this is true
>>565551150learning when to run is one of the biggest jumps ive had as a shitter. from obvious stuff like not diving the two half hp laners under tower while both i and my partner are low, or not running to "save" the person in the side lane who's getting ganked because he pushed to walker while there were 5 enemies not showing on the map
>>565551332I've literally never heard a "I'M ALONE IN ENEMY TERRITORY" line from anyone on the other team before and I actually pay attention to footstep sounds of all things.
>>565551103bro just build express shot and ur 1 deals 70% of enemys hp even if you miss few shots
>>565551417I once found an infernus hiding in a veil room because his character said ''GOTTA HIDE FOR A WHILE'' or something similar
Thoughts on the 30% Resist items? They seem like total ass.
>>565551332There used to be a few slip ups like Haze announcing her invisibility, but those are rare bugs.
>>565551968Spirit Is great Bullet is worthless
>>565551332That would be way too based for current Valve.
>>565551968>t guy that wonders why he just got insta killed by a single rem pillow
>>565545478you have schizophrenia
>>565551968Spirit is great because spirit resist doesn't have much in the way of spirit res shred that's easy to use compared to like gun res shred where there's like 3 gun res shred items that have extremely """"complicated""""" and """""difficult"""" prerequisites like "be nearby them" or "headshot them once (when gun is already supposed to be getting headshots to do damage)" or "use this massive fuck all AOE item". While spirit's shred is much more easier to take advantage of because the more consistent sources of spirit shred... ARE FUCKING GUN AND MELEE ITEMS.
>>565552712>While spirit's shred is much more easier to take advantage of because the more consistent sources of spirit shred... ARE FUCKING GUN AND MELEE ITEMS.Harder to take advantage of as a spirit char* This overall just kinda plays into that point of Spirit items being ass compared to gun items, hence why every good hyper carry is a guncarry.
we need a hyper melee carry
>>565548774So the esport troons and content creators will finally admit she's C tier at best now, right?Just like how they insisted Victor was actually D tier despite being 55% winrate in E6 or how they insist Seven is C tier despite constantly being in the top three for the last year.
>>565552871We have Billy. He should pierce parries while blasted.Don't like it, parryniggers? Just walk/jump/dash/use a spell/use an item to get away.
>barely escape a shiv and hide in some room till he leaves>''SOMEONE HELP ME KILL SHIV, HE JUST KEEPS HEALING!''>he hears it and comes to kill meawesome!
CANT LET THIS NIGGER CHARACTER VIKTOR BE BAD FOR MORE THAN ONE PATCH BRO HE NEEDS TO BE BUFFED EVERY OTHER UPDATE HE IS SO MUCH FUN TO PLAY AGAINST!!!!!!
>make trophy collector cheaper>also make it do less damage to npcs>which means theres even more incentive for dumbasses to BROOOOOOLLLLL instead of clearing lanesare you taking the piss?
>>565553363he is, it's like a raid boss your entire team has to focus on
>>565553456I can already hear it now.>why did you completely ignore lane and let walker get pushed and melted just to join the 4v2 fight we had handled>I HAVE TROPHY COLLECTOR BRO I NEED THE STACKS AND ALSO I DO NO PVE DAMAGE BRO TROPHY COLLECTOR
>buy egg>buy trophy collectorAw yeah.
>>565553010Victor is actually terrible thoughCompare him to abramsSiphon life is just a better aura with inbuilt infuserAbrams Passive is a better jumpstart with zero downsides, doesn't need to be micromanged and is on all the time.Right now he exists as a suicide bot which is terrible since you can just warp crystal away from his ult.>>565553363Imagine getting felted by the worst hero in the game
>>565553976The only thing victor has over abrams right now is that he's better at taking objectives because 2 lives and now in lategame he's got so much CDR on his ult he can kinda just have perma 2 rejuv.
why the FUCK can't i hit my shots in this game. i feel ridiculously inconsistent compared to other simlarly-wily shooters
>>565554090>now in lategame he's got so much CDR on his ult he can kinda just have perma 2 rejuv.Still doesn't compensate for them gutting his late game scaling.They took the carry part of the carry hero away so he just fucking dies lmao its so funny.
>>565553976>>565554090>>565554452only person ive seen have consistent success with Victor is zzerial, and his entire gameplan is; ignore jumpstart, use aura only for the debuffs (slow plus damage vuln), rush max ult, rush gun 4.8k then spam greens and just int into objectives to get map pressure for the team. He uploaded a video today where he ints into the enemy shrines at like 22 minutes, then later gets the patron to half while his team was fighting the enemy. Its a playstyle that gets you shit KDA but the objective pressure is good enough at high ranks where teams take advantage of that stuff to make it worthwhile, kinda reminds me of bausens tactical inting. Would probably be shit at lower ranks, but there you can run the lobby as Victor by merit of outfarming everyone and noone counter playing properly
>>565538776She's trying to make sure feature Mina's are, don't worry!
>>565554452>>565554493>>565554090Nightshift victor being an ultbot wasn't even that bad desu, being able to create a fuck load of space with revive's AOE did put on pressure.
why does no one buy vortex on ultbot victor>about to die>warp stone + vortex your feet>stun the entire team for 4 seconds
what's a fun m1 hero that rewards good aim?
>>565541829The last thing a Mina sees before I solo dome her so she doesn't die and can snowball the game
>>565554493I just don't see the point when every other carry shits out objective damage anyway WHILE still not being a troll pick that just rolls over and explodesYou could do the exact same shit as Seven for instance and be an actual contributing member of your team.
>>565553976>Victor is actually terrible though>Compare him to abramsYeah, now.Remember when he ad 60% winrate a month or so ago and the content "creators" instisted he was D tier and easily counterable because he only had 55% winrate in E6?
>>565554717Kelvin.
>>565554778Winrates mean nothingMina and Shiv have historically terrible winrates and are bullshit OP, at best you could argue its a indicator of how skill-less the hero is
Every Eternus player is so fucking miserable and negative man.Half of them have this monotone yet also whiny self-pitying voice that pisses me the absolute fuck off because my friend puts on that voice the moment he gets irritated over something and he murders the entire mood.It gets worse when something SLIGHTLY goes wrong in lane or whatever and they're like "okay... i guess my lane's ruined" like get the fuck over yourself nigger. Stop playing this game. You're never going to go pro so why play it if you don't enjoy it?
>>565555156what do expect from people who's job is to play a moba 10 hours a day
I need to start playing S tiers so the enemy can't get them. I'm tired of fighting Seven every game.
>>565555146So they will finally admit that Silver is B tier and not SSS tier, right?
>>565554745Yeah, as it stands the only advantage Victor has is that he has the second healthbar to pretty much ensure the objective, but in the end other carries can eat the objective faster and then also melt the enemy players. I guess its just a mindset thing, since Victor has the double healthbar people are more willing to risk inting into objectives since you get one free attempt, especially now that max ult is up every 100 seconds
Why nerf trophy collector like that, shouldn't it be a equivalent item to league of legends mejai's soulstealer? Just remove the soul gain and maybe let it upgrade into something like a glass cannon.Imagine getting kills early and just go like "yep let's upgrade to full yolo with all my stacks that can be lost on death".
>>565555546You are the right with the mindset thing, carries need to be more okay with the idea of suiciding for walker. Dying for it is good assuming you don't have a bag but most of them are pussies or kda players.Like there's very little you can actually do to stop them with how fast certain carries melt objectives, Seven or wraith can do it in 5-8 seconds and I'm telling you now the chances of you killing them before that isn't high unless its a 2 v 1. Fuck man I've done it on billy before plenty of times in ascendant with just monster rounds and a dream
>>565551332>>565553246lol
Besides Seven, who are the other good lane jannies? I tried Victor and he just feels so shit unless you're super far ahead
>>565555893>billy before plenty of times in ascendant with just monster rounds and a dreamI'm gonna try this out now. I just love billy man he seems super fun
>>565555994remhe gets turbo sprint speed and can just throw helpers into a lane and go to the next one that needs shoving.
>>565556023He does a deceptively good amount of objective damage, just bait out of the stomp and you can just heavy melee it to death + shoot inbetween stomps.Not as insane as say Seven but you can definitely take that shit within a 8-10 second window. Pop chain gang for the resists if its super close and you need to squeeze out those final few seconds to finish it off.
We won this game and look scoreboard doesnt tell you everything yeah I had low everything but I completely shut down their infernus carry with relic + lassos and supported my team with jump pads + anti heal not everything is shown on the scoreboard desu
>>565555893In general people seem to overestimate the difficulty of eating a walker. Its very feasible to eat a walker in 15-20 seconds with any carry already at 10 minutes, and if you die you'll only get a 10-20 second death timer which is nothing, plus the enemy gets a tiny payout for killing you. Meanwhile the walker is 4k to the team, and if you take it solo about 3k of that goes to you which is an insane jump in money. Vast majority of games that ive seen get taken over by a carry early have been cases where for any given reason the carry gets a solo walker by 15 minutes, yet people refuse to risk it over muh KDA.
>>565556023>>565556341heavy melee reloading his gun helps a lot for this
>>565556423you got carried butch FUCK YOU
>>565554717EVIL STIRS IN NEW YORKhaze or vindicta probably. seven too. for me though, i love venator
Why is this shit game swapping my L and R on my audio
What's my rank?
>>565555156>Every Eternus player is so fucking miserable and negative man.Tis the fate of all who "live to win".
>>565555994gravesgraveleavealthough then you have to play graves and try to teamfight without gravetechnically any carry though, to some extent. you want a bunch of farm anyways
>>565555156I kinda had similar experience in csgo, in high ranks everyone is esports wannabie and no fun allowed, every game is a chore there
How is Scourge as an item? If I'm playing Paige/Rem and there's a good run-at-them character on my team like Warden/Abrams/Victor, if I end up with 6400 souls early is it a valuable pickup or am I better off just buying my standard core stuff like Vortex Web/Knockdown + cooldown etc.I find it very hard to judge how impactful it actually is.
>>565557889You buy it for the 40 spirit resist
anyone have that image of a venator looking back to his rem teammate at the enemy base guardians who is about to get jumped by 4 people
There should be an inverse of intensifying mag where the lower your current ammo is, the more damage you do.
>>565555156Being good enough to be the top 10% but not good enough to be top 1-5% is a fate driving many mad. Effort can only get you so far before talent becomes the bottleneck.
>>565558659um
>>565558602That's what intensifying mag does
>>565558738I guess what I mean is that these people won't be in any tourneys winning because the difference between the best players and the top 10% is still massive. At least that's been my observation in other competitive games.
>>565558738Still appliesYou can be a fucking idiot and still grind away to get into the top 5% ish percent but you will hit your limits eventually against true no lifes.
>>565557889slept on methinks, should be very, very good on rem with superior duration and T2 when napping with his 2>>565557998this one?
>>565540342you go take a walker on a side lane, if they ignore you then you take an inhib
how the FUCK do I lane as graves? everyone outdamages me and does better everything
>>565558835top 10% is like phantom 1, you can get that just going left->right on whatever the first build your character is and never leaving your lane ever.
>>565559203go back to league if u use league terminology
>>565558813that is not what intensifying mag doesif you stop shooting, the bonus immediately starts dropping. doesn't matter if you're 1/90 bullets, that shot's bonus is tied to how long you've held M1.>>565558738that's the "matches played" distributiondoesn't reflect how many players are at that rank, just how many games are played where that's the match's average rank. hence why oracle is so tall on that graph, oracle has like 4 gorillion games played
remove parriesremove rebuttal remove refresherremove indominable
So if my team is 1/9/4, 1/3/4, 0/8/2, 1/7/2 and 1/8/1 is that like an uncarryable game for Drfiter or could I have done something if I was an Eternus god
>>565559621You have a goat for a head.
>teammate kills person in lane>doesn't get the souls because of some bug where they were cucked by a minionHonestly fuck this game man.My account is actually rigged.
>>565559431if you aren't buying resto shot first item you're throwing her entire lane.if you already are then i can't help you.
>>565559663as drifter? nope if you were kelvin or dynamo then thats an easy win but thats at max 4 stacks on your 3 and thats even assuming you were present for all of them so nope at that point you're just an ult bot built to be exploded
>>565559720resto won't solve me just tickling enemies
>>565559431Buy egg and try to hold until a side lane wins and goes to help Joke aside it really depends on the match up. If you get a pick she can just put down her ult forward and take the guardian.
>>565559720fuck that nta but i'll play graves as a summoner and not a gun character i dont buy a single gun item on her thats lame
>>565559431ring of repick
when are they adding the fun items like battlefury and butterfly
>>565560020enjoy feeding the enemy free souls from your skulls just for them to deal 40 damage before they die.
>>565560139i will if i wanted to win id play dynamo
i need help, my context ping by just pressing middle mouse doesnt work anymore, it always does the normal ping instead of the "going to shop" or "i see X", it has been like that since new blood
>>565559591so the amount of eternus players is even less then considering how they play the game the most
Updated date prediction considering the absolute minimum waiting period. Once again, please do tell me if there's something you disagree with.
>>565560481most eternoids would rather smurf than play in their own rank
>>565558857Yeah thx
>>565560123Ricochet and plated armor
>>565560598bro trademarks his 4chan images with a discord handle
>>565561058battlefury is melee cleave and butterfly isn't even similar to plated except for the evasion
remodels and new heores when? I'm BORED motherfucker these paltry balance changes are not doing it
So uh, why the fuck is haze allowed to use items during her ult, but bebop can't?Also why is seven and haze allowed to move more during their ults than bebop too?Bebops ult sucks ass
>>565559663It's carryable if you can pick them all off 1v1 lmao. Basically, no. Drifter is a pick hero not a 1v6 hero. Even in teamfights, the first thing you do after ult is sprint towards the squishiest guy on their team or the squishiest guy affected by your ult and pick him off before they know what the fuck happened.
>>565560598My guess is the new update comes out roughly around september. Summer seems unlikely with how slow valve development time works but who knows.
the fuck did they do? Did they just nerf every item in existence or something?
Why are there so many fucking foids in my games.Just had a lady geist scream>WEEEEE thanks Ivywhenever I carried her anywhereAnd everyone keeps playing the game, not a single person told it to go to the kitchen. Is it because of troons?
>>565562053Bebop can use certain items during ult, don't know why he doesn't have access to everything though
yoshi please fucking remove victor from street brawlthat fucking retard is either a sitting duck or unstoppable killing machine, stomp or getting stomp coin flip piece of shitthis is fucking stupid
>jeet broollol
>>565562640The only ones that matter in that context are unstoppable and infuser.
>>565562585you are so fucking miserable
>>565562771is there anything you faggots won't call "jeet"?do indians even play this game?
>>565562852I'm having fun I just hate women.
>>565562883>is there anything you faggots won't call "jeet"?jews
>>565562883I had aguy with indian accent in team and through the rest of the game apollo player did saar do not redeem thing
anyone got codes to good billy builds?I feel like no matter what resists or items I put on this fuck he just dies, and can't even 1v1 someone without nearly dying
>>565562694>dies>revives>refresher>dies>cheat death >dies>ult off cooldown>revives
>>565563028KEK
>>565562557no but they nerfed cc indirectly (thank god) via reactive barrier changes and indomitable is now a thing if you really hate cc
>>565561937I hope they add a new hero similar to Alex Mercer from Prototype.The fact that this fuck is the closest thing we have to a hyperviolent, symbiote-inspired power-trip character, one that makes it fun to shred every human in his vicinity, is just criminal. Prototype is the closest thing we have to a Venom game, and I'm really tired of it. Drifter is debatably hyperviolent, but he seems more like cartoonishly levels of pure evil and just dicking around with his "food", while Alex is a lot more ruthless and doesn't fuck around with his enemies.
I lost five games in a row, won one, lost another, won another, and I ranked up. I figured I'd be more in a 'loss debt' before I could rank up. Did the rank system take into account those matches I played I was paired with blithering retards that even an Eternus 6 couldn't carry? My own score/obj damage throughout those miserable losses were still good, so idk.
>>565564040as long as u tried ur best anon, a better team in the next round is all one can really hope for
>>565564118I appreciate the sentiment although I was more confused about the mechanics of ranking up, because after going 5L/1W/1L/1W I managed to rank up still
i will NEVER build gun as Graves and you cant make me
When are they making grey talon a real Red Nigger
>>565564026honestly if the Adversary Viscous talks about worked like that itd be a cool antithesis to his goo kit...also making a shapeshifter in deadlock would actually be absurdly cool(yes add spy from tf2)
>Gorth is "leaving for awhile">Jane's diary starts posting again immediately afterwardsNoticing....
>>565564769fuck no im not that guy i play hollday
>play silver for a couple of games>have to work my ass of to win>play billy instead>easiest win of my lifeMan playing a c tier character really makes you appreciate how strong a tier characters are
>>565539164Will try.
Trophy Collector yay or nay?It still seems acceptable on stacking characters that always want to be in fights anyway like Drifter and Vindicta
>>565565298If more people played Silver like a bola bot instead of trying to insta kill everything more people would have success >>565565371no fuck you
>>565565298Silver will be nerfed next patch no matter how much you downplayers try
>>565565470>downplaying?She's c tier at best, do you even play the game?
>>565565507LOL
>>565565298Billy is like B-tier at best. Way more chill to play though, silver requires so much effort for zero output.
>>565565774I accept your concession.
>>565565507Silver sucks but the true C tier characters are Holliday Viscous Sinclair and Bebop she's nowhere naer C tier Sinclair is strong but the problem is he's so fucking buggy and barely works 90% of the time
>>565565371Feels as if it's back at what it once was, only useful for supports and roamers that benefit from the stats, like Lash. Better than everyone buying it.It's just shittier but cheaper, so overall less risky.
dee ell gee will say this is balance
People think Silver sucks because they build gun stop sleeping on Spirit Silver
>>565565865Aren't those D tier?
>>565565997no one thinks Dynamo is balanced anon no one is THAT retarded
>>565565997>dude look much much damage i do if i get 634392 spirit and ignore what actually makes dynamo op
>Back after a year>Climb up to get stuck in high oracle>I wanna try out some new heroes>Use alt I made 2 years ago>Match starts>Yeah I guess these people are pretty shit, must be emissary or something>Placement, ascendant 1
>>565566369Im eternus 2 atm and notice instantly when game is ascendant VI average, players are literally mentally retarded
>>565566369>>565566508I'm e3 right now and whenever I get thrown into an "ascendant" match I can very clearly tell there's just 4 eternuses in the game split up. Not to mention eternus players are fucking retarded which is very evident considering I'm here for some fucking reason.
I love Toxic Bullets and going Spirit.
>>565566508>>565566606There is defo a difference between Seeker to Emissary, that's just permabrool, no one protects walkersAround Archon-Oracle people start running urn and rotating mid, bit smarter around the mapBut man from Oracle to low Eternus seems just like the same shit.
>>565565997not even deadlock redditors think he's balancedeveryone universally agrees he's retarded to play againstI think a more interesting discussion would be "who is the strongest character in deadlock atm"but even then...
>>565565865I once got raped by a melee Silver main. I don't understand how, but it happened. Made me reconsider Silver's actual tier
>>565565997Imagine being a Yamato cuck having 1 500+ damage ability when you can have 4 charges on Dynamo>b-but it's on the ground!Yeah and fire instantly, can hit around corners as opposed to a clear chargeup
>>565566970>But man from Oracle to low Eternus seems just like the same shit.That's because it is, it's literally just alt accounts keeping people who climb perma stuck there by fucking the matchmaking.
>>565563384all 3 billy players in the gen...LEND ME YOUR ENERGY (builds)
>die like 4 times in lane>what the fuck?>my Vindicta partner is so far back he is almost in the walker (at full health) so I was just 1v2 the entire time>our team gets stomped in 20 minutes>vindicta ends the game 0/1/0 with 8k player damage and 13k soulsWhy even play this game if you are so afraid of engaging?Phantom 2 match btw
>>565567323>Why even play this game if you are so afraid of engaging?If you don't have your stacks as Vindicta, you're just kinda fucked and can't really do much besides play defensivelyit gets worse when the enemy team has knockdown
>>565567294Genuinely believe this is true because it was the same sort of match as on my main lol, crazy. But it doesn't fucking help when there is no draft, no casual mode, no solo queue, just a roll of the dice on getting absolutely countered by a comp or fighting a 5 stack
>>565567323boosted paige puppy girl queues random in what she thought was streetbrool I'm geussing.
>get billy as lane partner>know he's going to get parried and feed four times before 5 minutes>get haze as lane partner>know the MINUTE boxes and creeps spawn she'll fuck off to farm that to leave you alone same with victoryou can tell you're going to lose lane just by who's your lane partner
did I just dream the fact that you can use power slash while sliding or did that really happen
>>565567307I posted my build yesterday, pretty sure you saw it
>>565567507you could for 2 days
>>565567452why the fuck is there so much of that puppygirl shit in this game anyways?
>>565567442I just kinda chill there and pray I can RNG to PA since I'm playing with essentially the same people. PRoblem with old accounts is that the game is extremely reluctant to move you up. I geuss I could turn on the competitive matchmaking but that usually just gives pretilted people or forces you to fight six stacks on their alts.
>>565567539Thank you Billaye main :)
>>565561530My profs hardwired me to prevent plagiarism rape>>565562303Reasonable
>>565567686I asume groomcord lingo, but I wouldn't really know because I don't really use it even if I have an account.
Every single part about playing Celeste feels like shit except the movement
How are you supposed to clime europe when you have russian niggers on your team?
>>565568127Learn to ДABAЙ with them to coinflip the match.
>>565568127>gets killed once>screeches in incomprehensible cyrillic and starts farming the entire match
>>565567307Skill build:bashdown > blasted + blasted 1 > rising ram > blasted 2 > ult >bashdown max > ult maxItems:extra regen > melee lifesteal > close quarters > lifestrike > point blank > crushing fists > spirit snatch (optional) > full tank, prioritize witchmail and colossus after a t3 greenCarried me to phantom.
>>565568127>>565568239how come its always the russians who always ruin EU games? I play some dotes and there's a russian on my team who feeds all game, I play deadlock and there's a russian on my team who feeds all game, I play CS and there's a russian on my team who feeds all game.
>>565568423Being russian sucks and they're schizophrenic.
>>565568423They are an inherently evil species.
You guys hate Russians so much, you want Ukraine to win the war then?
>>565568423The russians? They're not all bad
>>565568841They're about the same people no? Only reason Ukies aren't as big a problem is they all left for western europe or the meatgrinder.
>>565568841well, yeah?
>>565565997>310 spiritjesus>>565567263let's not be silly alright, yamato with that much spirit is doing ~1000 with power slash, ~3k with her full combo (with follow up slashes every <6 seconds with CDR)and obviously has a much, much more threatening kit than dynamostomp is aids in lane and then it stops dealing damage. yamato runs games if she gets ahead, dynamo's value is tied directly to the player piloting him past lane
>>565569283her full combo of... 1 damage ability?
>>565569436full combo of you reading the rest of her kitgrapple pslash->1.1k cslash->400 ult pslash->1.1k cslash->400with 310 spirit (+40 (+6) from grapple (and boundless)) that's 3000 on her full combo. ignoring items and shit. which she would also make better and more active use of
>>565565997bro no one is saying that stop lying
>>565565997Ive always hated this fat tranny hero
>>565571026Nah fr cuh blud capn on dis dynamo shit
>>565569283I play Dynamo too from time to time but you can be a mouthbreather and pilot him it's really one of the most boosted heroes in game.
I'd like to remind everyone that Dynamo's two can transport people through walls and ceilings dispel all their status effects and give them stamina that's like an ult in of itself
kinetic pulse is not the problem, its quantum entanglement>your Lash gets a 5 man ult + ult from Paige combo>fat science man blinks in and teleports them away
>>565572709Kinetic is way overtuned and could be non charge and still strong as fuck
>>565572709Dynamo is just fucking bullshit he feels like someone's OC that can never be beaten and he's the strongest ever!!! I outplayed his stupid fucking blackhole with stone form stunned him it plays the stun animation he gets back up and BLACK HOLE FUCKING CONTINUES
>>565567216lucky...
>>565572804Compare Kinetic to HollidayHolliday>have to aim the barrel melee it to hit someone for like 200 damage and barely displace them Dynamo >press one to not only clear an entire minion wave but whoever gets hit is knocked into the air slowed down does massive damage to them and their bullet resist is lowered :)like what the actual fucking drugs are these devs taking to justify that shit? Im not saying Holliday should do the same but what drugs do they take to think thats okay?
>>565573043Well at least that's his most powerful ability and the rest of his kit isn't insanely overtuned either
What did the patch change that made everybody more retarded? 90% WR since then, I can stand still with my nose in an enemy shrine while they zipline toward a 3v5 brool in mid. Teammates aren't any better (we had a haze end at 30 minutes with less than 8k player damage) but if you queue as carry/support pair with anybody you know you will go on an mvp and key player streak, i think i had back to back matches with 29 assists and no deaths
what if you could deny the healing creep's heal orb
>>565573332They fixed the matchmaking :)
>>565573332Trophy Collector changed so now everyones salivating for stacks Walker? fuck that I need to get my stacks in dude
Stupid question but why do teams retard rush last walker when the teams are even and no one is deadJust had the enemy team int their game by rushing at ME, billy when I had my ult up at the final walker. it went as you expect and I chain ganged them into a walker stompI've been on the opposite end too where my team gets lash ulted directly into the walker like retards, dear god man at least look for picks or something.
>>565568401tysmany other tips u recommend for billaye?
>>565573332>What did the patch change that made everybody more retarded?the following>youtuber makes vids about patch>tikki tokkies make clips about the patch>gif related happens to these "people">they reinstall deadlock and queue>humans realise this and stop playing to avoid the retard tide
>boosted dynamo animal does well in laning phase >this gives him the divine mandate to become the teams shot caller>every fucking call out he makes gets himself and half the team killed>ignore him while he spams pings on the brool pile in mid>take two walkers while they're diddle fucking around like dumbasses>fast forward to 45 minutes >lard ass still hasn't maxed his fucking ult>used it maybe 3 times the entire game>didn't get a single kill after laning phase>we lose
When are they making Holliday ult T3 lasso everyone in a radious like paradox?
>>565574183That shit makes me so fucking mad I dont care if my Bebop feeds 29 times trying at least to get a walker but when my entire team just brools non stop on mid Its so fucking aggravating then they wonder "Huh guys why are we losing? We're brooling the people who have a lead on us and arent getting shit for farm because all five of us are on blue whats going on guys? Time to flame the [random teammate thats also brooling like a dumbass] thats going 2 and 4 that's why we're losing!"
>Mfw won against a smurfTHAT'S RIGHT YOU FUCKING FAGGOTTHIS IS PHANTOM YOU CAN'T JUST STEAMROLL NO MOREWE'RE SHIT BUT AIN'T THAT EASY
brehs I've been spamming The Lashâ„¢ lately and I've been enjoying it....
>>565573910Once you have crushing fists (or melee charge) you can juke around corners with heavy melees, if someone is following you you can start going around a corner, turn around, heavy melee them from out of vision by going back around the corner, and repeat. Unless you're playing against people with scripts or extremely good reaction time this shit works every time. Mind game them with going around more corners before turning around.In 1v2 or more situations you can start heavy meleeing in the direction of one guy and 180 and hit another, if you see someone waste parry then laser focus on them.Be careful with light melees, they are unironically riskier than heavy melees as you can't course correct and the punishment for getting parried is the same.Jump before heavy meleeing for vertical control to hit jumping faggots.In lane, whenever you get another 800 souls, check the enemy inventory for r*buttals. R*buttal users are all worthless crutchrelying trash so they will use parry instantly when you get near, giving you a free heavy melee and a light melee. Feint the next heavy as they will instantly parry every single time they can and you get another free heavy melee and light.
>>565574549I don't usually meet a lot of really good Lash playersbut when I do they feel like The Lashâ„¢ incarnateit's like the art of the character of lash bleeds into the player himself. He may not be hitler right off the bat, but if you play him enough you can turn him into hitler
>>565574354The worst part is they spent HALF the fucking game in the blue thunder dome and still didn't manage to take the walker until the last ten minutes. This shits why I've just become a full time lane janny
>>565573105haha... yeah... kinetic pulse totally isnt his 3rd strongest ability
How do I win with this guy?
I think I'm cooking with this one. QSR and Surge imbued on 2, you can get away with this shit because mark eats so much goddamn HP.
>>565565997How do you even get it that high? I've had 50+ minute games where I've had every spirit increasing item I can get my hands on and the highest I've ever gotten was around 680. This was before the nerf this week.
>>565573332Yeah I'm on the opposite end of this I have a 10% winrate since yesterday. This is torture.
Shiv status? and how is the patch overall
>last game went 0/9/6I am the one who feeds
>>565574493Based phantomGOD
Is there a medical condition that makes people not able to see the mini map?
>people just straight leavingI guess the game just gives you a slap in the wrist when you leave a game.
>>565577913I'm half blind man give me a break, would you rather have me focus on securing/denying the souls or look at the map?
>>565578129look at the map you'll lose 500 souls to denies thorough the entire game at most
> Have my final match of the night last night, it's like 11:30 PM> I'm McGinnis on lane with Geist against Calico and Paige> Geist parries Calico and gets a kill in the first minute and a half> Continues to parry Calico every time Calico throws a punch and soon Calico is 0-8> Think it's really impressive because I didn't see Calico going for heavy melee hits> I was tired enough that I didn't check Geist's build> Check it this morning, it was a what the fuck spirit Geist build that started by buying bullet resil and spirit resil immediately after mystic burst> Realize the Geist player was parry scripting
>>565578465Sometimes I'll spectate people on my team when they start getting crazy non-stop parries right out the gate. Script niggers get the rope, don't care if they're winning me the game or not
another game lost because wow surprise surprise the enemy got dynamo and weeeee didnt so you lose instantly!!!!!!!
i deranked to phantom today
so uhh where is the mod that makes heavy attack sound louder? I literally can't hear it in teamfights
no matter how well you do during lane phase your teammates will always find a way to fuck it up
People call silver bad because she's all skillshots and she's not just a carry so you actually need a brain to play her.
ASS BLAST
>>565579643BLEED (hemorrhoids)
>>565579373its on meatspin
>>565579643PROLAPSE OUT
>>565579972WHAT THE HELL
>>565579348I ranked up to phantom today. I caused your derank.
>>565579348Same. The lobbies are so bad here. Just constant brawl on blue
Valve should add Alice to this game.
>>565565997>filtered by a move you beat by pressing space bar
>>565581853why are white men so mentally ill
Thoughts on Haze this patch?
paradox niggers get a kill and think they know how to play
>>565582194they are getting one shotted by porngood thing they are going extinct
I swear I SWEAR this patch did something and made people even more fucking stupid a walker is being pushed we can take a walker what is the guy that could take it donig? A FUCKING JUNGLE CAMP RIGHT NEXT TO THE HALF HP WALKER
>>565582194>whiteSir that is an insect
>team lost mental by the 7 min mark
>>565581853>mina if she was a ladyboy
>>565582194what do they have to do with that asian troon
Do you think they'll ever make Jar of Dead a useable skill or is it just doomed to be a mediocre farming tool forever?
>>565582209still broken. sleep dagger still does a million damage, fixation still does a million damage she still gets borderline infinite ammo and her level 3 invis is still broken. the ult nerf didn't do shit it just made her lame, devs are clueless and need to stop listening to shitters (deathy)
>>565582385shalom
Anytime someone in my team tells me what to do in the voice chat, I stop giving a fuck about the game and just go feed
>>565582194>>565582385vile vitriolic shitskins walk among usno media could replicate such horror
so why does yoshit refuse to nerf kelvin beam? its been extra broken since the rework.
>>565583008man face
>>565581853singsing plays deadlock?
>>565583036movement troons deserve worse thats why
parryschizo won/dlg/ lostindominable is S tier
>>565583008THERE GOOOES MY HEEERO, WATCH HER AS SHE GOOOOES
>>565583184remove parriesremove indominable
>>565583008>>565583123Holliday has the voice of a 13 year old boy
>>565583183except movement troon characters are the only ones that can get away from it
>>565583387holliday a CUTEaCUTE
>>565583347Parryschizo is not going to like this post
>>565583674but the parryschizo hates parries
FUCKPARRIESBULLSHIT MECHANIC THAT UNFAIRLY PUNISHES THE WORST PLAYSTYLE
>>565583819Parryschizo is retard that thinks everyone that criticises parries are the same person.
oh great victor is meta again this game fucking sucks
Holliday seems fun but I am too much of a shitterMy movement is terrible and I know I would be missing every her skill
They should make an active item deployable that's just Hollidays jump pad
horrible patch, uninstalled the game. good luck
playing billy is actual fucking suffering forget the parries you'll be tanky and fight 4 people in a small room for like 8 minutes while your team goes "nah billys gonna get killed any second now I cant help!"
remove parries
Will they ever add consumables?
>>565584536your egg?
Im currently on a loss streak and i see infernus and dynamo on the enemy team so fucking AMAZING
>>565584403I can't tell you the amount of times this has happened to me.Also won 1v3s while my team loses 5v3, which is even worse.
>>565579643I TRIED TO SHIT NICE
>>565584403>forget the parriesnobody parries after lane phase in shitlow anyway and even if they do, well that just triggers the new item now
statlocker is feeding my ego
C&C!
>>565581853>telling me you wouldn't
>>565585345statlocker nigger found kill yourself you faggot ass nigger i bet you breather through your mouth because your nasal cavities are closed from all the inbred genetics you coon fuck
>>565585345it's all about confidence anywayif you're feeling like shit of course you'll play like shit
>>565582145That move is not dodgeable on reaction you disingenuous retard. Maybe only if you're on the other side of the map.
i love victor
what species of bird is this
deadlock change my life
>>565586206AI generated temporary asset bird.
>>565586206horned owl
guess my rank
It's locked really that much better than getting stamina/mov speed items?
>>565587102yeah you can burn all your stamina being greedy and have a 500 heal + stamina refresh if you need to leave for 1600but it depends on the match, sometimes it barely stacks
>Person with the highest soul count on my team is me on spirit doorman at 30 mins in
>>565587102If you know how to schmoove then yes.
I'm seeker btw
So how's the new patch?
>>565565997Repeat after me:SUPPORTS *clap* CAN'T *clap* BE *clap* OP *clap*
>>565557556Initiate 7
Why Ivy performs so poorly in night shift?
>>565588323me clapping a supportsissy's cheeks
>>565587102not for the purposes of rotating quicker or general traversal. move speed/stam + stam recovery speed is better for that by farbut locket's emergency stam (+heal) comes through exactly when you need it
venator had an INSANELY HIGH win rate of 47% (48% in E6) which is why he needed more nerfs. oh seven and his year long 55% winrate streak? yeah thats fine but 47% is TOO HIGH
Fuck my chungus games
>>565586906oracle
I am trying to learn graves but I find her gun builds really weak at killing people and thus not able to contest with towers, could I have some advice?I usually summon zombies when I want space to jungle, but with how weak her gun is, is it a bad idea to go spirit instead and heroic aura for stronger zombies to let me harass towers also? echo shard skulls sounds really strong for spirit also.
>>565589178graves is really bad right now regardless of build
>>565588824Venator is insane, its just his playerbase of cod retards run it downSame with Rem, he isn't bad but his winrates are tanked by niggers going full damage.
>>565589178>is it a bad idea to go spirit instead No. Just do split shot ricochet toxic magnum the rest spirit items. You're building spirit so you can hit 100% max weapon damage steal on your M1s. It's either this or debuff stacking.
>>565589178graves is fucking awful right now >le gunif you wanted to play m1 play vyper then all you have to hope for is that you get a match where people dont notice you're on the minimap until their walker is destroyed
>>565585949i know this sounds crazy but try utilizing the high ground and approaching from the air, you don't actually have to react to it...
>>565589178>>565589592 (me)I'll add that summoner build is dogshit and that you should be using your ult in teamfights to create chaos. Nothing wrong with how you're using it though, but it's not just a push ult.
>>565589389the cod retards running it down are also in e6?
>>565589841YesYou think the higher the rank, the less pigs.Its the oppositeBit of a self expose but that's alright, just know it never gets better be it eternus 6 or seeker.
the official laughing stock heroes. point and laugh at them
>>565590282um but my favorite e-celeb put venator at S tier so really he needs more nerfs? shitlows like you would never understand
>>565590282how would you fix rem?
>>565590375venator requires top level aim to get value, which 99.999% of people don't have
>>565590375>t. ftFades
Why is mirage's winrate so shit hes easy to play and decent at all stages of the game I really dont get it
>>565590542>gun with massive spread hence why every eternus has under 20% hs on him and just tracks center mass which is extremely easy with his hitscan velocity>gutshot requires no aim>traps require no aim>only ult rewards aimand how does this make him require more aim than than haze, wraith or vyper?
>>565590542true but he's also got a lot of bloom other m1ggers don't have
>>565589801You aren't always going to be in that specific situation, dipshit. Sometimes there are characters who need to be close range.
>>565589178graves is strongest when she presses split shot and shoots 2 or more enemies simultaneously with ricochet and on hit effects, you suck up their damage and spirit res for yourself and hope you can outlive their damage with lifestealthe skulls are in the contest for worst skill in the game, don't think about them as a reliable way to dps players
>GUYS VENATOR IS REALLY SHIT>PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THEY NERFED HIM AGAIN>LOOK AT MY STAT SITES! LOOOK!!!>THEIR STATS MUST BE MORE ACCURATE THAN VALVE'S OWN>THE NUMBERS!!!!
>>565590495Make rem players not complete retards.
/dlg/cord melty
>>565590939>tracking is easylol lmfao
>>565590495>only has 1 damage ability>its not even that good>playerbase is mostly k/d/a tards so they prioritize damage over utility (this is how you get pillow nukers and gun rems, ive been seeing melee rems too recently)he needs a total kit rework. dynamo, kelvin, and paige can shit out damage if they go full purple, despite supposedly being support charactersthey need to scrap the ability for him to take sinners, it just ends up being a grief 90% of the time. also its funny how little the tunnels are actually used, even if its only 3 characters that can actually enter them, its been ages since ive seen somebody actually go inside
you know i'm starting to think this cord isn't really
>>565590926Winrates are a meme and don't reflect how strong a hero is
>>565591263/dlg/ posters are so prone to meltdowns. one time someone pointed out that an ascendant player had low denies and he sperg raged about it for the next three threads
Is the 'cord pro-parry or anti-parry?
>>565591318Nice self-expose kek
>>565589178She is a gun debuffer, grab ricochet, toxic, inhib, silencer and drain the enemies' damage with her 3. Her ult isn't really good for pushing but if you see a walker unattended you can put it down and burst it really fast
>>565591467they all either have autoparry cheats or "mods" that make melee louder
>>565591665So parrypilled
>>565591097>THEIR STATS MUST BE MORE ACCURATE THAN VALVE'S OWNtheyre estimated from all matches that get uploaded to the site. theres no reason there would be any bias. the actual reason the win rates dont reflect patch notes is because valve doesnt center balance around shitlows.
>>565590495buff giving helpers to allies, helpers on allies also deal damage like if they were on creeps on T3 upgradeyou can give a helper to yourself as well
>>565590926He requires actual aim and iq to play (at least above dynamo levels so the meta slaves dont play him)
>>565591318YesTF2 deboonked this years ago
>>565591842not really, his marks have a grace period so he only has to hit like 1 out of 5 shots and still get value from the nukescarab is the only skillshot i guess?ult doesnt really require iq because the cooldown is so low so you never get punished for using it
>Team's Rem fucks off from lane at minute 8 to steal every single sinner on our side>He will NOT spend all of these souls, go back into the fight, and drop a fat bag for the enemy team
what made warden jump in winrate so much?
>>565572840deadlock devs are too prideful to admit that no, you can't give enigma abilities that make him strong when blackhole is on cd and keep him balanced
>>565592482He can upgrade HVR now
>>565590282>>565590375>sample size
>play game>our team is winning>enemy team has ragequitter>see the red popup>fuck up and die once>leave like an upset trannyWhy are all Seventrannies like this? Literally the most "im a tranny faggot and i like to commit suicide" coded character ever created. His backstory is a transition allegory btw.
Did something with matchmaking change in this page? I went from Alchemist I to Alchemist III after a win, then I went from Alchemist III to Alchemist V after a win. I'll take it.
>>565592482he gets his insane ap faster
>>565592673>His backstory is a transition allegory btw.Trannies take an inch and chuds give them a mile, as usual.
>>565592673Half the cast can be interpreted as some sort of lgbt faggot story sadly.
Shadow Weave is fun but doesn't feel necessary. Most of the time you sneak up on someone going through jungle and they only have a few seconds to react to you even when you are fully visible.
>>565592956>Kelvin and Seven were once best friends, but have a disagreement and turn into bitter rivals>Bro this means they were FUCKING once!
>>565591318Tracking is something that most players don't bother to learn at all as far as aim goes. Trying to do the twitchy flickshot bullshit right off the bat instills so many bad habits.
>enemy has several carry heroes>my team has 0thank you match maker very cool
my aim looks like this
>Y'all got any fun?>We got abysmal dogshitWho do you think won this match? take a wild guess
>Aiming is actually super easy even tho I'm bad at it>Players with good movement are trannies/dlg/ loves self exposing huh
>>565593443>reddit meme>cant crop image>image clearly shows who wonvery good bait 9/10
>>565593021>Celeste is actually a unicorn so in the closet about her true body>Dynamo has lost his body and is seeking to find it back>Infernus disregards his homeland when talking to Apollo>Ivy doesn't care about her past just living in the moment hispanic>Pocket with the they thems>Sinclair have two people stuck in a body so they them pronouns>Seven has the same body transformation shit>Venator is a wholesome chungus priest accepting of ixians he don't judge>Victor is multiple people so again some sort of body dysmorphia>Vindicta story is seeking revenge against the bigoted chudsAnd much more, hey it's just faggotry and it is what it is in the year 2026 but don't pretend it's not there. Maybe if you're a modern day sodomite this sort of subtext is just normal, but these are the leftovers from a literal dei company being contracted to assist in the character development.
>>565593581I saw this meme first in /dlg/ though
>>565593443>seeker why do you people bother posting this shit? also you play infernus shut your hole
>>565593021https://deadlock.wiki/images/a/af/Patron_female_ally_gigawatt_start_05.mp3
>>565593916this is emissary you fucking retardand i will put whoever has the highest pickrate as my low prio so i get to play my main so suck on that fag
>>565593232I wish I knew how to aim
>>565593773>dude these characters who are sad and upset with their life are totally tranny stand ins and not the natural consequence of having the driving motivation of all characters be a life-fixing wish>graves imageyou are the most obvious tranny falseflag shill nigger faggot i have ever seen in my entire life on this website. go on, talk about troonvent some more so everybody thinks dash jumping is for queers (heckin valid!)
>>565594173>emissary
>>565590282>Mama coco has a higher pick rate than two conventionally attractive womenHow?
am i crazy or does mirage get browner in his killstreak portrait?
>>565594834>Not including Vindicta
>>565593773>>Victor is multiple people so again some sort of body dysmorphiaif you were an amalgamation of corpses you'd feel the same way
>>565594834If they do skins right they're going to make zillions.
>>565595069others already did her pre witch hunt :/
>>565594056So Seven really is a scorned ex, makes his voice lines with Kelvin make sense in retrospect.
>>565595069she would just look the same except not blue
>>565594056this literally doesnt play anymore
>>565595303>she would just look the same except not blueThat raises the question, was Vindicta a blonde or a brunette? or a redhead
>>565587102Yes but if you're fighting high cooldown mystics then it's probably better to get stam items.
Please, Yoshi, I just want to play Vyper. It's been 5 games now.
>>565596018I wonder why they took out the tokens.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9xmm8XtRgJUWhy are Paige players like this?
>>565595521black haired..
>>565583036>kelvin beama reminder that that used to be 90% slow and it disarmed too
>>565596368I'm not like that and I play Paige
>>565594737>VindictaYes>HollidayVery subjective appearance, she kind of looks like a teenage boy
>>565595102i wouldnt id just drink beer
>>565594834cute Geist
>>565590495Rem players rush building pillow to feel less useless in fights, and still end up a bit useless.If they just buffed pillow that would probably be fine, he could end up hitler in a good player's hands but every character in the game should have the capacity to be hitler with the right pilot.As it is now the best Rem player's contributions are some choice ults and the occasional save on a pick.And since best healing can just as easily go to someone who just had a single lifesteal item and big damage, Rem has no real metric for "I did well" other than the enemy team's frustration. I wish the game tracked CC abilities, there's games where I'd like a graph of how often I really am being hit compared to teammates.
Drifter and Geist are really similar if you think about it
getting tired of playing against obvious smurf accounts.you lazy cucks don't even bother putting a fucking icon on your less then 2 year old accounts.if you do this shit you're a fucking actual loser.and you shouldn't be shocked when anything bad in your life happens when all you do is bully low elo players because of your fragile ego.
>>565590495Allow him to share his cash with whoever he tags along with maybe half maybe 25% I dunno just so that he doesnt just suck up all the bags and put it on pillow
They can’t nerf Dynamo because then none of the devs would be above Oracle
>>565593232Mirage only needs to land a shot every 3 seconds so that's fine.
The way to play Rem is to use active items I dont know why the fuck people sleep on them or maybe im just shitlow Ive won entire losing games by just buying Relic slapping it on their carry and watching him look around in confusion as he gets obliterated
Rems should play around Minions those Rem minions are actually fucking strong and can melt a walker faster than Ghouls but for some reason they dont split push they just run to slot machines steal them steal yours and then put it all on pillow buy boundless + spirit burn and think they're doing anything
>>565596368autism can be a very sad thing
Gun Drifter is actually stronger now because of the weapon investment rescaling, he's stronger early-mid and the hit to late-game weapon investment scaling does not affect him anyway since his 3 has infinite scaling. Like legit this hero went from B to at least A tier.
>>565544874There's no 1v11 MC syndrome in a game with counter items as strong as these.
>>565592482Is this gun Warden?
>>565544874except you can just play carry instead of being a little bitch supportnig with 0 agency
>>565593232me on geist
how can you suck so bad as a graves?
>>565599716graves is a F tier char
>>565599716Is that spirit lifesteal? Lol
good god, the bebop bullet damage nerf completely killed melee bebop too
>>565599253Building heavy gun on drifter will always be a midwit trap just build for spirit / burst early game and maybe get some fire rate later when your stacks are high
>>565600441>character with a fucking laser beam isn't allowed to deal gun damage
Getting parried then instantly bursted by your two opposing laners must be the closest experience to being raped there is. No game quite replicates the feeling of vulnerability and total eradication of innocence like this one does
>>565600741Parries are bullshit, yes.
>>565600741>go to bait a parry>the hit box is so fucking big I hit them anyway>get to sit in the cuck chair while I get pounded to deathit really is just like rape
>>565600441but a bullet growth nerf doesnt affect melee at all
>>565600741>>565600918>>565601207>Does a very obious and easily timeable thing (Heavy Melee) (Dont even try and deny it)>Gets punished for it>OMG I WAS LERAPED!!!!Meleetards are fucking women holy fuck bro.Just do a light what do you gain other then everyone laughing at you for doing a heavy?Sick of you gigatards infecting my threads.
>>565601896found the parryscripter
>>565602049found the billy main
>>565601896>parry baiting and accidently clipping the mile wide parry is the same as unga bunging head on like a niggersuck my dick faggot
>>565600741getting punched by the most obvious telegraphed dry heavy melee through your well timed parry with 0 stamina is even worse. I swear I play against people that know exactly how to exploit this in lane.
>>565602430>mile wideYou know damn well it isn't.Just get torment pulse if your so desperate to do damage at close range.
i only use heavy melee for movement and sinners as yoshi intended
Ivy is so bad. Why would you ever play her?
>>565602586anon... your rejuv/bridge buff?
>>565602681some of her old builds (spirit brooltard and meleetard builds) were the most fun builds in the history of this game and i'm constantly chasing that high
>>565602681ult build with lightning scroll and max cd/range is very funny
>>565602872escalating kudzu...
?queue up retards
>>565603058hop on street brawl
guess who won
>>565603058hmmm nyo
>>565601896I literally only ever get parried on light melees, parryschizo.
>>565602681how about all in Stone Form, max range, power surge, tankbuster etc
>>565603279>tankbuster
>>565603186bait-kun...
>>565601896>Just do a light what do you gain other then everyone laughing at you for doing a heavy?Why would I risk doing a light melee when the punishment is the same and avoiding getting parried on a heavy is easier?
so whens the Geist nerf coming through this hero is just as much ass cancer as dynamo??
>>565603186tranny
half the heroes need buffs, the other half need nerfsbring everybody to an equal playing field and allow more than just half a dozen characters to carry
>>565603150The team with Rem because Rem is the best
>>565603150well your parents lost because you use the stupid hazbin hotel icons
NERF DYNAMO FUCK HIS ULTHOW IS HE ALLOWED TO DO THIS?
>>565603898mindbroken
>>565604021god i know it's as early a beta as betas get but early neon prime looks like google play store mobile garbage
>>565604021Man we really dodged a bullet with that concord maration arc raiders abortion tier aesthetic
>>565604021honestly the future tokyo setting would have been kinda cool. I think NYC is good too but maybe they could add this as an alternative map or something. It sucks it got axed completely it has some cool elements.
>>565604141tumblrina fag
>>565604021autism
>>565604441I'M HELPING!
>>565604419Mashallah brother
>>565604657thats sinclair retard
>>565593773Nigger it was a fucking joke.If you're retardedly obtuse you can make anything anything.
>>565604715Mo is Muslim and endorses suicide bombing, though
Sooo... where's that matchmaking update?
>>565604183>marathonthat game looks so retarded
>>565604939
fucking disgusting
(I want to have) Sex with Dynamo and Abrams
>>565605103Marla...
>>565605103Fujos are wild man.
>>565605064If you lose to victor you should uninstall the game.
>>565605064m1chads and meleeGAWDS are oppressed under the boot of spiritsissy AOEslop tyranny
Why did he lie?
>>565605856truth is population isn't big enough for matchmaking fairly. combined with eternus queuing with initiates which is just pure retardation
Fucking hate these m1 heroes that need to constantly slide just to work. It feels bad.
>>565606228>reworking everything EXCEPT crackshotretarded nigger ape, not even gonna bother to read anything besides that
>>565606441game will never become popular because of autism movement tech like that. league will probably release a clone in 3-5 years that will be much better for casuals and deadlock will become like dota 2 just full of trans and 35+ NEETs
>>565605064why victor has a low pickrate
>>565548406Wait, this is actually really fucking good.
>>565606230so true, its just an obscure little indie game with 81k players, its not their fault
>>565606883>good>literally just Vyper cosplaying Silver
>>565605856>>565606230>any rank can queue with any rank>rampant smurfing>blatant EOMM>only a small handful of heroes are actually viableEOS soon
>>565607017The skill ceiling is literally too high. Blame movementrannies.
>>565606441>Friend that's new to the game tries all the m1 heroes >For some reason he likes Vyper the most>He literally never slides so he spends 90% of the match playing reload simulator>He unlocks the slide passive as his first skill and maxes it out first too
Graves might be the worst character in the game.No mobility, no damages, no tanking, no depth, no complexity, no nothing.
>>565607926Ivy.
>>565568401I've been ult maxing for the unstoppable but I might try bashdown instead.
>>565607217It really sucks too that they play blatant favoritism about who gets busted movement and who doesnt. I was wondering why my movement felt so bad playing heroes like Abrams, Warden, etc. until I fucked around playing Mina and Celeste, and realized their movement is quick and fast af and youre basically playing with admin console enabled. Literally how are you supposed to win when these heroes can just play fucking Quake 3 you're stuck playing Halo CE on a controller?
>>565603186notice it starting tanking when that jeet ice frog decided to """""rework""""" a bunch of a characters
>>565608112ivy has all of that except damage though
>silver gets nerfed>winrate goes up???
>>565608324And yet she's still shit.
>>565608112Ivy can heal, support and flyGraves can die
>>565564284I lost something like 20 out of 25 games, and went from oracle 5 to 1. I've since played another 20 games and won maybe 13 and am back up to oracle 5. I'll take it, but it's whacky.
humiliation ritual
>>565608403i don't think anon was only complaining about the character being shit, although it's a big part of itgraves is just a blatant braindead egirl type character, they should make her m1 heal if you max your 3 or something and that way she'd be perfect for that
>>565608283March 8th update killed the game
What do I even do with Graves now? Magic Carpet Suicide Splitpush?
>>565608397Casuals start dropping her when she doesn't automatically play the game for them anymore, so all that's left are the people who actually know how to abuse her kit
>>565608552Graves is so USELESS....
>>565608552another masterful steal from mohammed and kareem
>>565608552Serious question, how do you even counter this fat fuck and his little butt buddy?Only a few games ago i was playing as infernus and i had to dump like 20 mags into him before he finally died, i wasnt even alone, it was me and soke other guy just chasing this lone mo in the late game because he had overextended and it took the russian army's equivalent in firepower just to finally kill him, and he wasnt even fed or anythingHow do you even counter this fat fuck?
>>565609789Try max HP damage.
>>565609789hope your entire team bought siphon bullets
>>565609789If his ult is down just kill the rest of his team and ignore him to be honest.
>>565608273The way I reason is that in most games you can survive fights in the mid game without the unstoppable from ult and getting 4 instant stacks of crushing fists with bashdown > blasted > bashdown is a shitload of damage and a free stun prepped if your enemy tries using some channeled spell.Also with maxed bashdown it refills the whole magazine if you're stuck reloading.
>>565568423you would act that way too if you could be drafted at any moment
>>565609789just bait his ult then ignore him unironically
Indominable doesn't seem that good. Counterspell, unstoppable, and witchmail are better buys
Question for movement heads, are you going out of your way to aim for walls when you're navigating? I'm trying to learn how to walljump but I just can't wrap my head around working them into my movement, it feels like I have to focus on going for them specifically if I want to do them. Is there a trick to walljumping I'm not seeing?
>>565610369>>565609958what if he built gunmo?
>6 games in a row where the enemy has at least one carry hero and my team has 0 carry heroes>already lost 5 in a rowReal subtle forced 50
>buy silence wave>use it as the fight starts>pops the enemy indomitable>allows my team to CC them without getting cuckedSilence GAWDS
> geist on the enemy team unstoppable god> geist on my team goes 1 - 6 in lane> same for dynamo, kelvin and every other unga bunga herowhy i dont get it
>biofem in game>ask her what color her panties are>she doesnt talk for the rest of the game
>>565610990then everyone clapped
>>565610692If he's gunmo he shouldn't be tanky then, especially after this patch
>>565608805>20k stable population before mass of updatesI bet it'll settle around 60k unless we really gained that many new regulars
holy shit when I play graves I feel like griefing, she is so bad
>>565548774I thought this character is trash wtf
Really enjoy how people just have Doorman PTSD now so if you even slightly poke your head out these days they will die trying to kill you no matter what.It was so nice before Nukeman's week long spreeYou could run up behind people, door behind them, just be a silly guy and get away with it every timeBUT NOW?
celeste more like moleste because she's for trannies lmao
hmmm
>>565611964She got buffed and meta developed on her further even when she was nerfed for another shitstorm, spellslinger is enabling some retardation with guns if a character spams abilities enough and her bullets actually chunk pretty hard.
>>565612276celester the molester
>>565608397>Base health per boon reduced by 7>Vitality Investment bonus increased from 8/10/13/17/34/39/44/48/52/56% to 9/12/15/20/38/42/46/50/56/62%
>>565612194I hate doorman and I make it my personal mission to kill him as much as possible in every match. I play haze and rush capacitor+silencer so he can't use his stupid little tricks while I press 4 and send him back to spawn.
Sex with Celeste
does celeste also have a horn down there
>>565598368It's actually so fuckedLike it's so hard to tell if Rem is bad or just has awful players with how he's playedHe's unironically the strongest support in the game(at being supportive) but his players insist on pillow retardation instead of maxing his 2 and 3 and having infinite pressure in any fight especially on a lane
>>565605064Where's Silver
>>565613175Don't forget all orange items Rem (ends up having the lowest player damage)
>>565598368>>565613175the rem and ven playerbases are what this general thinks the silver playerbase is.
>>565612962yes and i lovingly kiss it every night
I recognized Vyper's VA in Marathon today. Considering this and Helldivers 2, she seems to get a lot of work.
Why is mina one of the most picked heroes now?There used to be quite a few heroes above her and now when she is great again, you fuckers are back at it. Fuck all of you meta slave faggots. Out of 8 recent games i got to play her only 4 times despite having venator and niggernus as my low prio.Before the patch i got her 8 out of 10 times at least
>>565613175I build Rem full support with actives to counter the enemy and focus on split pushing with minions but I lose really often and feel like I have no impact compared to playing other characters like Paige, Dynamo or Kelvin. He's probably a lot better in a premade group but playing with randoms he doesn't feel very good. These are low Ascendant games.
>>565613175I feel like rem is mid-low in terms of supports, he technically has okay stats and a pretty good ult.But his 3 requires you to either think in terms of macro or stick the temp resists on someone at a good time.The 2 is a straightforward heal but there is a decent amount of itemization decisions you can make if you want to play with it.
The one female player I've had mic up in my games was a Drifter onetrick with a Steam profile devoted to how hot vampires are
>>565613548probably gives a blowie to seal the deal
>>565613507Best thing about you faggots is you'll never have kids.Thanks for ending your bloodline
>>565613290In bed with me
Time to play matches with my 4 stack so I can get a high rank and brag about it in /dlg/
>>565613703some girls never grow out their 2000s emo twilight lover phase
>>565613765gugghghhhh trailer trash sex
>>565605064>victor returned againthis games entire balance is this>character is stupid strong>nerf >literally the next month >meh lets bring em back why not?the weirdest balance ever
>>565613781Here's your (You)
>>565614135but what form of victor is good now? spirit or gun? or some sort of hybrid build?
>>565612194Fuck off no one will ever feel bad for Doorman players the most annoying fucks in this entire game and no one not your team not the enemy likes you but you pretend not to care cause you're le ebin mastermind heh thanks for ulting the guy that was about to be murdered anyway so now we have to wait around for him to pop out of epstein's island to shoot him fuck you.
>>565614135>the weirdest balance everIts really not, all pvp games with heroes do hot potato balancing now.Blizzard and Riot do it just to promote skin sales by forcing specific characters forward to be shown at esports events, they don't really dramatically shift character playing but mostly just do minor nerfs and buffs.Valve on the other-hand just does it to force you to explore new meta and will shit down your throat.They have less of a incentive because skins are all still in rng compared to the other corporations letting you target buy.
>>565613680The 2 is really insane, I've been cucked so hard by it on the rare occasion I fight a Rem that's good at the game."Oh you hard focused one of my teammates and you're about to get a pick? One million barrier and all their health back on an AoE heal that heals the rest of me team too. Also enjoy a 5 second duration curse for committing to that pick. Fuck you."A good Rem can be a fucking nightmare but they're like lightning in a bottle.>>565613652Like has been said earlier in the thread, Rem doesn't really have good avenues for feeling like you did well beyond the enemy team focusing you or cussing you out. You can have infinite lane pressure and high healing, but the former has to be dug out of a graph post-game and the latter is kind of a meme because half the time most healing goes to a carry with lifesteal.
Can Victor detach his penis and use it as a weapon
>>565614480how is it exploring a new meta? the victor meta is like two months old its not new and dynamo has been fucking meta for like months now
>>565614529it's too tiny
>>565613827Omg trans sister hiiiii~
>>565614529That's his heavy melee attack
>>565614135>buy trophy collector>buy healbane>buy slowing hexthen you can kill him and out farm him
>>565613781TRVKEHowever they reproduce by touching kids
Silver and Seven share the same animations so if you like Silver by extent you like a man so *shrug* deal with that how you want
>>565614329>but what form of victor is good now?Literally nothing about him is good, at best you can just int for objectives but carries already shit out objective damage WHILE still being good.
>the victor downplaying is already startingyou guys are so fucking transparent
>>565614603if you haven't noticed victor got reworked, and has had weird peaks and lows since then.Now more gun itemization is developing on him right now if you are paying attention to specifically victor.
>>565604021>>565604523Genuinely grotesqueConcord and Marathon BOTH have some characters that look better than this
>>565614520>Like has been said earlier in the thread, Rem doesn't really have good avenues for feeling like you did wellI think even withoht outright "direct" impact such as kills or massive damage it's easy to spot yourself when you make a big play, with Paige I can land massive roots, clutch with shields or land a well timed ult to change the course of a fight. I'm not saying Rem can't do that, I've had many games where I curse the enemy carry and keep them disabled, clutch up with ult to deny movement into a sleep or keep someone alive with echo shard burst heals and barriers... but I also have a lot more moments where I feel useless on him and I'm left thinking "I could've done a lot more on Kelvin or Dynamo here". I'm most successful on him if there's a frontliner like Abrams on the team, but that's gambling on having a competent frontline at that point.
>>565614661u mad>>565614974Silver has a lot of her own animations nowShe even has her own dodge roll and reload!She's come so far
>>565614329i prefer spirithes still weak early/mid but leveling ult first he can participate in fights and use it to create space bc of the 75s cd
>get balance patch>abrahams vs lowkey w scrim drafts look exactly the sameis icefraud the king of balancing?
>>565615129victor and seven function the same way but only one gets major complaints
>>565615242Mad for TRANS RIGHTS and SILVER!!! :3333
Why is snowballing so retarded in this game? Haze killed a guy twice and now she just holds LMB and kills everyone.
>trannies trying to "claim" Silver>againGive up troons, it will never work.
Just buy healbane lol
>>565615779The exact same shit was said when he was a near unkillable raid boss before his nerf "just buy counter items" and when they nerfed his two it was "NOOOOOO HOW WILL I EASILY DISPEL EVERYTHING I MEAN...BUY HEALBANE CHUDDDDDDD"so fucking lame
>>565615779>gets -30s on ult>goes from d tier to s+++ tier
>>565615129>Losing to the worst heroYou should be embarrassedThere is so much bullshit in the game and you get felted by a jobber who can only hold W and get melted in every stage of the game?
>>565615871truly and literally every single motherfucker playing this game will always downplay how strong their main isno one is immune to this truth unless you're some kind of turboautist holiday one trick
>>565615001he's 55% wr again so obviously something about him is good again
>>565615871This is just a problem with the hero itself, the design is flawed and until Icefrog reworks him he is not going to be fixable. He is either overtuned as fuck and can walk straight at your team and kill you, or hes a melee creep. You can't make his rot aura work in a game like this and let him scale infinitely like he does.
>>565615779>>565615871Victor's actual counter is silence/cursed relicIf he can't cast 1 he just dies. Problem is that shit is expensive to counter 1 person, and then you gotta kill him twice.
>transcendent cooldown>witchmail>indominable >refresher>cheat deathI AM REBORN!
>they don't know the actual counter to victor is silence
>>565615654drifter and wraith too. Drifter's powerlevel is fine but it's still lame when he farms a bunch of stacks off of a bad and you just lose. Wraith I think needs some small nerfs to her early game because she can snowball harder than anyone and she's also basically become a lane bully with her bullshit homing cards, her ult is also cancer.
So Celeste is a honest character now? She's eaten enough nerfs to be just an ok/good hero?
>>565615553WolfbrokenMy werewolf wife runs your brain
Buy metal skin for the haze so she doesnt insta kill you but oh and also buy dispel magic because they got infernus oh dont forget to buy healbane + spirit burn + silence for victor hope you got enough money to buy slowing for mina oops whats that you do 2 damage? just do better chud
>only CHINK games like marvel rivals do eomm bro it just a coincidence that the game stacks the lowest WR heros on the same team and doesn't give them a hard carry bro
>>565616083Don't forget ethereal shift
Silver should just whore herself out for money instead of killing people.
>>565616161at least drifter has easy counters and no escape. Wraith outputs 4 billion damage and can teleport an entire map away if you dare try to interact with her.
i knew they were going to overbuff vic and make people seethe, metaslaves to play him and now it's waiting for the inevitable nerfs 5 patches in a row until he's a big fat piece of shit again
>>565616014>Has to resort to muh winrates with a tiny amount of data instead of an actual argumentI accept your concession.
>>565616410they buffed him in such a boring way too.
I love how every patch doesnt address the previous annoying heroes so now with the new patch its still Dynamo Kelvin Infernus shenanigans but now add Victor in there too and you can get all four of them on your team while you get Celeste and Grey Talon like fuck this game
>>565616206>So Celeste is a honest character now?fuck no, she currently can rape people to death again
>Nerf ultbot Haze>Now we get ultbot Victor
>>565616550Her gun build or spirit nuker build?
>>565616226her tits are not that big
>>565616583just..............run away from the circle
>>565616410>>565616486His design is just too binary. He's either OP or shit.
>>565616583Nigga just warp stoneComparing it to prime ult haze is insulting since she could phantom strike people rendering it near unescapable
>>565616408No I agree. I think Drifter is fine it's just annoying when he gets a bunch of free stacks because it's a guaranteed snowball loss. Wraith I think needs straight up nerfs, it seems like right now she basically just buys intensifying mag and she's already hit her "late game power spike"
>>565616335She doesn't need toOnce she wins in the Ritual (she's guaranteed to because she's OP) she'll be absolutely loaded
>>565616665he was fine before this patch, all he needed was a little buff on jumpstart so it's not completely useless
a Draft system would fix like 90% of the problems in this game
>>565613507cute and canon!
>Enemy team gets THREE gun carries>Our team: Holliday, Paradox, Israel Talon
>Critical portrait actually goes hard
>>565616827i may quit if i can't play my two trick every game. i actually really like the current system where i always get to play a carry but when i played dota i was forced to be a supportcuck 30% of the time
>>565616827No, it wouldn't. It would fix about 10% of the problemsThe other 90% is the playerbase being retards
>>565616948just buy um...metal skin...
>>565616335this but celeste>oh no my friend is in debt I need to help him by completing the ritualthere are, ahem, "other" ways to pay a debt celeste
>>565616948Talon is actually nuts I have zero clue how he's so slept on
>>565617029Not enough horse cock enjoyers in 1940s new york
>>565616790If people are building gun damage on the most blatant spirit hero ever, then he's not fine. They needed to nerf his gun (they did) and buff his spirit (they did, slightly) but they made the mistake of also buffing his ultimate for some reason, and I still see people build gun on him.
>>565617060yeah nuts how he can go 15/0 in first 15 minutes and then completely do nothing for the next 15 min
>>56561723530 second execute you can spam off cooldown that gives you spirit per kill is retarded strong sorryAlso he has a curseAlso he has 4 stamina because fuck you.
>>565616907why are you whites so fucking gaystop posting this shit
Can Venator take down objectives quickly, whats the best way to do it, melee charge + monster rounds or something?
>>565617235>he never had to deal with hitler flight gun talon
>>565617387grenade build shreds objectives
>>565617485What does a grenade build look like, rapid recharge? Isn't it mostly pure damage?
>>565616642I need to do a lot of reps later to iron out what exactly is wrong with her, but Im going to start with a target core of cdr + spellslinger + EE
>>565616053and now he has an item to eat it up and give him 20% cd in return
I buy so many counter items that I actively gimp myself in damage yet I still die. This is all the fault of the 0/13 Holliday on my team
>>565617573>slowing bullets / intensifying mag + cultist sac early>battle vest + whatever else for 4.8k vitality>hollow point + recharging rush + ballistic enchantment + rapid recharge for grenades
Heroes you need dispel magic for>bebop, doorman, drifter, haze, infernus, kelvin, geist, mirage, paradox, seven, shiv, silver, venator, vindicta, warden, yamato, anyone that builds half the debuff applying items in the game.maybe>graves, grey talon, holliday, ivy, no&skill, paige, vyperdon't>abrams, apollo, billy, calico, celeste, dynamo, lash, mcginnes, mina, pocket, rem, sinclaire, victor, viscous, wraithso cool
>>565617373shut your faggot ass up before i rape you and your whole bloodline little bitchboy
>>565617373I'm not white and post gayshit though
>>565617373I'm white and don't post gayshit though
>>565617679>0/13 Hollidaywhat an el classico
is archon literally unplayable? there are people here worsse than alchemists
>>565617998Tough guy persona doesn't work when you admit to unironically sucking cock
>>565618654It never gets betterDoesn't matter if you're seeker, archon, oracle, phantom, ascendant, eternus50/50 agents exist in every elo
>>565618654brand new players get put in archon/oracle all the time
>>565618654wtf is nthis real
>>565618695lol scared of sucking a few cocks buddy? bet you haven't even tried some delicious musky horse cock, pussy
>>565618695you definitely don't sound scared lol
>>565619180Astute observation, now kill yourself freak.
>grey talon ults>two teammates fighting, one is low health>push the one with high hpfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck im so mad
How do I secure souls in this game? Just going to base doesn't launder them.
>>565619469*rapes you*
>>565619682you actually have to kill yourself irl and it secures the souls
>>565619469*rapes you and your parents*
>>565619682they secure slowly over timeor just spend all your money
>>565620005>>565620005
>>565619682Nice. Im gonna draw some golden bikini Graves to celebrate golden week stuff.Can anyone help me come up with an Item description for it? Prob a T4 Vit item
>>565619682the only way is to spend them, and unsecured souls are spent less. so you have to actually plan ahead when farming
