>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>565538527
first for buff parries
Think im gonna go grab some snacks and run sleep dagger tonight!
Sex with Venator
Sex with Lash
silver's in heat, dripping wet fortune cookie on my face!
brawl silver is so fun
kill ALL gunniggers
What do I do as Ivy? Can I get some 101
Why doesn't Infernus have a tail like Abrams and Apollo?
>win 4>don't rank up>lose 5>rank down>win 1>rank up>win another one>rank up againThe rank system in this game is fucking retarded
>>565620634he had surgery to remove it to let go off his demonic past
>>565620657eomm testing if players will play more or less based on rank changes
>>565620634He hides it cause he hates his Ixian heritage
Buff Silver.
Nerf Silver.
starting to learn the game anything wrong with these picks>billy >seven>kelvin
New Deathy tier list just dropped
>>565621013>billyBased>sevenBased>kelvincringe
>>565621013billyit's billy
how is Deathy always so right?
>>565621038>>565621153>silver>S+lmao
>>565620278Kill yourself
>>565621153Sinclair is only OP if Dynamo is on the enemy team
>Holiday>viable
>>565621312Sinclair bunny is finally stopping being downplayed, people are realizing its a completely insane ability
>>565621238>Silver>ANYTHING but S+only shitters would think this
I enjoy brawl but I want a twisted treeline type map. Where I can still buy items instead of rely on RNG.
>>565621038>Haze C tier I just got anally raped by a 22/4 Haze that did 110k player damage total
>>565621082so is it safe to assume kelvin is not a terrorist when it comes to lane denying? was kinda looking for a support that isn't a total cuck experience playing them
>>565621519Kelvin and Dynamo are supports for men, Paige and Rem are sissy shit
>>565621038Doorman is just such a weird character right now. You can play him in two ways - You either go bellman, run around the map throwing bells, ganking people and stealing the enemy jungle, or you go full joechuck mode and just clipfarm on midlane. The first method is more consistent but on average you won't be impactful enough to actually lead your team to victory, the second method is a stupid conflip where you're either useless or single-handedly win the game for your team because you effectively have an instant-kill combo
>>565621429Those retarded troons have been pretending Silver is S+ tier since her release despite all evidence to the contrary.Any list they make with Silver in S+ or S tier should automatically be disregarded.I don't care if she's actually good or not, if they put her in S tier I will rightfully call her D tier.
>>565621153Don't let Silver and Sinclair players ever downplay their character.
>>565621673the Bellman. now give me a gel gun hero for some actual fun
>>565621930>all evidence to the contraryevery pro player on DLNS and every high rank players says she's S+ and she's rightfully a contested picktherefore if you fail to make her work it's a skill issue
>queue trio>game queues us several ranks lower with another trio of initiates>despite their best efforts they all go 0/14>despite the three of us doing very well we simply cannot overcome the constant soul stimmies for the enemy team and loseWhat the fuck are you doing yoshit
I don't think anyone actually believes Silver is bad, its just a thread meme
>>565622154Meanwhile I queue up with my mates and we get utterly assblasted by a smurf and his buddies
i love victor
why does that fat bastard evil fucking faggot dynamo always roll enhanced refresher in street brawl jfc
>>565621312No, the sinclair problem is the same as the shiv problem.>Character balanced by being hard to do certain mechanics>Master that and now you just rip and tear everyone's assholes apart.In shiv's case the altfire movement is what drops his winrate, in sinclair's case you can't braindead autopilot buildguides and you need to do a lot of reps with his 1.
>>565622126They say that, but they never show it.
Man my mental is so bad in this game but not in the usual way it is for mobas, i don't rage at teammates, i don't rage at specific heroes i just get mad at myself. I start getting really pissed off at how bad i am and tilt so hard if i die, which in turn makes me feel like i'm just a complete shit player which then makes me play like shit because i have no confidence
What heroes should I avoid as a new player? I don't wanna waste one of the better slots if I don't know the strats.
>>565623007You can play sinclair literally not even having his 1 bound to any key and he's still extremely good, you just have to vortex bunny and spam enemy ults
>>565623079just play what you have fun with or find appealing, after you've played deadlock long enough you will end up rotating through the cast out of boredom anyways.
>>565623208gun sinclair is overpowered but keep this a secret
>>565623035In the latest DLNS the teams with Silver both NA and EU won the tourney
>sinclair is using the other team's ults better than the actual heroesThis is how you know it's over.
>>565623079
>>565623208and you can play shiv without doing altfire movement and he is still okay toodoesn't mean you aren't letting jesus take the wheel with how the match is going to go by neglecting the critical piece for their impact
I get that I'm building her for support, but I feel like a no point can I as Paige be alone without getting my asshole torn to shreds.
How viable is dps Paige?
>>565623007Sinclair is an abomination of a character because his Vexing bolt is tremendously fucking dogshit, his rabbit ability is cheesy as fuck, his assistant is only good for swapping, and 99.99995% is the fact that he can do your ult but better
>>565622154gomen gomen im promise ill keep lerning the game
Hello anons.Obviously you don't care (you shouldn't) but imma take a break from visiting and posting in /dlg/. The plan right now is to make it at least a month off but it might be permanent, who knows really.The reason for it is that I've ended up coming here so often that it lead to me waking up today, and the first though I had on my mind was: 'I wonder what's happening in the deadcock general'. It's a clear sigh of addiction or simple retardation so I gotta fix myself based on that.My journey with the game is not over yet though as I wish to continue improving my dogshit performance. Let's see where I end up with my hard caps thanks to physical and mental capacities. I would like to thank you all for the fun I had chatting with you. You guys are great, truly. The trve sovl of Deadlock. Keep it up lads!I've posted this message few hours ago and this is the last time I'll do so. If you see any posts in the future claiming to be me from that point onward, let it be known they are not me.>t.Gorth 2/2(I ended up dropping 3 divisions today, with two losses before this one getting me matched with a literal russian whore going 1/7/1 on Vindicta. Mental ruined, not sure what's wrong with matchmaking. I've played various characters just to get fucked over every time.)
>>565623313And her impact?
>>565623313not him but i've also never seen a silver pop off the same way any other carry can in those tourneys. at most she'll get a kill or two under guardian early when she gets the wolf and that's it (something that is by no means exclusive to her btw)
I haye Dynamo.
>>565622154gooddeath to party queniggers, the most dishonest type of deadlocknigger
>>565623829Same, we stay banning Dynamo until he gets even more nerfs.
>>565623554I don't blame the initiates, it's the matchmaking's fault for looking at a group where one had like two matches prior and the other two were BRAND NEW and deciding to jus throw them with us and average it out to RitualistWhat the fuck kind of first game is that, it must have been awful for themI wouldn't blame them if they never played again
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Mo and Krill have too much fucking health for a hero with lockdown, free escape, self heal, and disarm. What a stupid fucking design.
>>565623963filters the normies and women. good.
>>565622756Why is Silver there? She's not scary like the other two
>>565624087Mo and Krill are dogshit. They should keep their current design but get their damage buffed.
LIFTING!>you are dead
Is Mirage any good?
>>565624429>let's increase the damage on the highest utility hero in the game>wtf why does no&skill have a 101% pickrate now
I love how retarded everyone in Ritualist is.> Get game where my main and second choice are banned> Forced to play Dynamo yet fucking again> I'm on a lane with Apollo, Apollo demands a switch and puts Celeste on my lane against Victor and Kelvin> Tell them this isn't a good lane setup and you can't have two supports versus their carry> "CELESTE ISN'T A SUPPORT"> "CELESTE IS A CARRY"> Celeste gives up 5 kills and they roll me before I can do anything> We lose blue less than 8 minutes in, including walker and base guards, because no one will help
>>565624654>>CELESTE IS NOT A SUPPORT!!!!!!! CELESTE IS A CARRY! REEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!my sides
The baxtuh society has yer numba
>Lifting!>she's scrawny as fuck and doesn't even use her arms???
>>565624654you know, it probably doesn't help people only use carry and support when talking about roles right now.They probably don't know there is a whole world of shit that lays between both that the majority of the cast is in.
>>565623883rong gayme
>play Drifter all day>end the day depressed, drained and irritableMy rank is in free fall. I was in mid ascendant last week and now I'm getting oracle games. Playing this hero is making me hate this game Just can't seem to win with this hero
>>565620226what snacks do you get when you Deadlock'n /dlg/?
How long did you guys need to feel like you know what you're doing?>I have 100 hours playtime>still can't decide on 3 heroes to main>still follow builds and can't make my own>still have no idea what I'm doingIf a game goes well, it just feels like it's all because of my team. I feel like I have no impact at all.
>>565624924>lifts you into the air with mind>>has an ability called TELEKINESIS>>>can um teleport and is a magician but she is totally not a self-insert power fantasy character I swear>>>>she is supah confident!!!!!!!!!!!I'm sorry but she is just a more uninteresting version of Sinclair's character.White-skinned or not, she just sucks and is as interesting as watching paint dry
>>565625118drifter has 0 agency. play a carry.
>>565625118You don't play Drifter to win, you play Drifter to be a murderhobo and scurry around the map eating Rems and Paiges like an idiot.Going down in rank just makes it easier pickings, so embrace pisslow and go wild.
>>565625247it is a very unorthodox kind of gameit is walking the line very thinly between frustrating, poorly designed, and god-tier designed that is actually super fun as hell.It's just that line is so blurry because everything is constantly changing, and never stays the same for too long. I kind of hate that about the game, but for a game in beta-testing, it is what it is. I understand what you mean, though.
I want leaks
>>565625671chunkyfatty.fatty mcfat fat.FAT!!!FAAATTTT!!!!!!!!!FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>565625741Ok
>>565625156A cup of whole milk, poured in a plastic cup.
>>565625383>>565625671>>565625848I love Rem he's so cute
THEY
>>565625932reddit gold for you, good saar!
>>565625662I feel like the hate for the game can only come from how good it is.People don't spend this much energy hating something that never had merit to begin with.Not a lot of Battleborn haters.
new player here, how do you get the lock on square to appear when using wraith's cards? the square appears on its own for me sometimes but i dont know what triggers it.
Dynamolock is a fun game
>>565626191>I feel like the hate for the game can only come from how good it is.this applies to a lot more pieces of media than you'd think.When judging things, or just life in general, the way I see it is this: there's an infinite well of negativity you can draw from for just about anything you can think of, and there's also an infinite well of positivity you can draw from. Both wells apply to daily life or to judging content in general. I like to draw from the happy well, but I'm also harsh on the things I love, so sometimes negative things will come out of the negative well.Internet algorithms will push more negative content, and people will come to the 4lands just to vent their frustrations about Deadlock. I think if there wasn't some part of it done amazingly well, so many people wouldn't be obsessed with it as of right now, yeah.
SILVER S+++ TIER CHARACTER
>>56562727513k player damage is very funny
>>565626949Ones for the pants and the other for the jacket.Are you retarded?
>>565626949At some point Valve transitioned to AI-generated character design
I found the fun rank. Its seeker. People actually team fight and try to play objectives instead of just one side losing slowly for 60 minutes because someone fed in lane so the m1gger gets an early lead and goes 30-2. Alecmist and Archanist sucked ass. Don't be afraid of the low ranks, anons.
>>565624505One of the most annoying heroes in the game if he gets ahead. Wins basically any 1v1 with scarabs and has infinite map presence with maxed ulti.
>>565627456>IMGONNASMURF.pngwhat did anon mean by this
>>565623579>The reason for it is that I've ended up coming here so often that it lead to me waking up today, and the first though I had on my mind was: 'I wonder what's happening in the deadcock general'. It's a clear sigh of addiction or simple retardation so I gotta fix myself based on that.idk who you are but that's fair
>>565625952DO LOTS OF THINGS
I'm sad we lost this one
>>565627538I just I just couldnt hang in higher ranks and lost and ended up in seeker. If I was smurfing that'd be 25-1 like every other m1gger in my alc games.
so victor is now meta?fuck yoshi and his retarded ass
>>565627946dashfernus died so victor could live
>>565624654Well that was a fun game. Went from Ritualist 3 down to Arcanist 6 because my team had three useless players (Celeste, Apollo, Seven) who refused to join teamfights and instead farmed jungle and chased their 0-15 Haze around the map. Now it puts me as McGinnis (third choice) with Silver, Calico, and Rem versus Seven, Mina, Wraith, Victor, Dynamo and Kelvin. I love forced fucking losses.
>>565627437>transitionedheh
>>565628747>Infernigs acting like their hero still isn't broken S tier
Supports overall feel weak. You only really need a tank and 5 carries
>>565625347Wraith is the self insert of the one black woman that works at Valve please understand >B-but Calico!Directly shatted out of the anus of SBI, there's a difference
>>565629426>a tank and 5 carriesThis is the comp the game gives the enemy team when it's time for your forced loss to happen
>>565629535I actually like Calico's design, I think it's well thought out, well made, fits the cast etc. Wraith is the character that I think is wokeslop.
>>565615202>I also have a lot more moments where I feel useless on him and I'm left thinking "I could've done a lot more on Kelvin or Dynamo here".Well that's the thing, do you feel that way because those characters are more supportive or because they actually get to shoot people and hit them with damaging nukes, as opposed to slapping them with a wet pillow that does maybe 1/10th of their health every 6 seconds. Their nukes even have more utility, kelvin's slows better and heals, Dynamo has insane displacement
>>565630171>Wraith is the character that I think is wokeslop.kinda, but they definitely overcooked with her if you look at how many retextured cybernetic arms on heri don't really know what her previous clothes were for that
>>565625932How much longer until DAGASI finally draws some Rem art?
>>565624493I think the second from the left design here >>565630405 would be better, I like the classy arms behind the back instead of in the pockets, in the current iteration you don't even notice it and it's a nice touch.
Why does the no-bullshit cowboy sheriff have jump pads and exploding barrels? Those abilities feel like they belong to a circus clown or mad inventor not a cynical gunslinger hunting evil with her family heirloom revolver
>>565630885reminds me of wile e coyote
Saturday Night Inhouse PNPS0PNPS0PNPS0
>trophy collector is cheaper but reducws your creep damage>cultist sacrifice raises your creep damage>everyone just buys bothThanks Yoshi! Very neato!
>>565631082WOAH MOMMA
>6 stack>dynamo is banned by everyone>dynamo still on the enemy teamdoes it just select to random fucking people from the match, not even 1 from each team?
>>565630885Probably because she's a reskin of a Neon Prime character who's only defining trait was being in a lesbian relationship with Miku Ginnis
>>565631082her tits aren't that big
>>565630885Neon prime leftover, she's got a fun kit it's just completely nonsensical.
>>565631082is this dior?
>'dude buy dispel magic to counter doorman cart!'>buy dispel magic>it's disabled every time he uses the cartwell I'm going to guess this is because of the tier 3 upgrade but I think anyone who recommends this as a viable solution should go fuck themselves to death
>>565631281You’re in a group of 6 going against solo/duo queue players. How are you complaining about free wins? Holy shit
>>565625118hes way the fuck better than he was last patch, Im enjoying the relief while it lasts. But like the other anon says, he doesnt have agency, hes a support ganker pretending to be a gun carry.
>win one>don't rank up>lose one>win another>rank up????????Am I just getting free ranks?
>>565632710get counterspell and just counterspell the cart as he sends it (often after his vortex web)
>>565631082the only one who saw what this dick can do and lived to tell the tale
rate the current meta
>>565633565That's not Geist though?
Just need one more for deadhousePNPS0PNPS0
>>565621038>sinclairI'm genuinely convinced there is a collective effort to overrate the everloving fuck out of this hero by people who do not play him in pro to ensure either he never gets the rework he's destined to get. Awful dogshit pub winrate, pro winrate is nonexistent in playrate and winrate and when he wins it's rarely his impactclueless faggots that do not play the heroes they rate
>>565632980The game tries to put stacks vs stacks.Last match we were 6 stack v 6 stack(easy to check friends list of recent players and notice they're all friended).
>>565633693Feels good to be an honest Wightman who is perfectly balanced.
>>565633693wasnt literally nothing changed about mcginnis except her turret soul rewardhow is she s tier now
>>565633693>silver has already fallen off when people were bitching just last thread she's s+++Why do people keep touting eternus rankings as anything at all when they're both extremely volatile and extremely retarded?
>>565633693what did they change on victor for him to be like that
>>565633693shithighs just need to buy healbane lol
>>565633693Can't wait for people to pretend Victor is D tier again because you can le counter him
>>565633828Just because they're volatile doesn't mean they aren't accurate for what we know at the moment. If you play Victor or Vyper and you're competent there's a good chance you'll crush the match.
>>565633805>how is she s tier nowBecause it's a tiny volatile sample size from a tiny volatile section of the playerbase with tiny dicks and volatile egosLook right at the top anon, it even says it's just the last 24 hours
>>565634190nobody is saying those two aren't absurdly powerful though. however pros are the only ones still insisting that silver is SSSSS for some reason
>>565633805a mcginnis enjoyer probably either came back or started spamming her in eternusthat is all there is to anything on there
>hit eternus 1 yesterday>lose 6 win 4 today>im ascendant 4what the fuck?
>>565633805>sample size of 142 games, a portion of which probably being some onetrick
>>565634656it has to either be a bored pro or that onetrick caught everyone with their pants down with standard turret cc build
>>565620005>liked victor>they nerf him>he's still alright>nerf him, again and then matchmaking stopped even leting me have him>time goes on and they buff him again>don't just want to metachase and besides matchmaking would just fuck me because if I don't queue abrams + dynamo + ivy + mo the queue timer takes 10+ minutesThe game isn't even letting me play and test new characters anymore I don't have games on half the roster so they're all double down arrow and yoshi isn't letting me play them. Don't get to eternus, anons.
>>565633805Dunno I see her a lot more now must be because people remembered she's in the game and is aids to play against
>>565633693>Lady GeistWhy her grenade does like 35% of your HP even with res?
This dev team can't balance for shit
>>565633693i cant wait for victor to get nerfed the fuck out again and be an useless piece of shit that only masochists like me still playthen he gets overbuffed again and the cycle repeats
Every single esports "pro" and streamer personality is a retard and their opinions are worth nothing.
>>565625741shut up graves
>rem on my team>enter my jungle>suspicious rem shaped hole where my sinners are supposed to behmmm
if rem only got half value from sinners stolen via little helpers, where else could they put some of his power budget?
>>565636447The pillow nuke build don't build itself you know :)Rem needs those souls to buy tank buster and trophy collector ok :) oops he got ganked by Drifter/Haze/Calico and gave them a 3k soul bag
>>565625671the fact that no one leaked the new item means they killed all the leakers
>>565633693>recieved nerfs>went up in win rateWhat happened?
>>565636914incredibly dishonest hero
>>565636914>people stopped banning her>metaslaves dropped her>actual geist players tried herthat's what happend
>>565636914was hard countered by dashfernus
Post inhouse stats
>>565636572>Remlings now take 50% of all souls gained from using the Helpers ability>ability levels up automatically upon reaching certain soul tax thresholds>ability now has 'quests' that empower Helpers further when fulfilling these goals (use Helpers on X amount of crates, Sinners, minions, allied heroes, runes, etc.)or make him start with a unique egg that taxes your souls but has interest
>egg>trophy collector>cultist sacrifice yep, its deadlockin time
>>565624414she's actually the scariest because she beats rem senseless when she's drunk
>>565637172they should let rem be able to transfer unsecured souls to other people
>>565637159
https://gamebanana.com/mods/671966#RAPEYOSHI
most skilled rem gameplay (RARE FOOTAGE FIRST TIME CAUGHT ON CAMERA)
>>565633693I thought Vyper got nerfed
>>565637573>Rem killing the sinner minions so the sinner actually respawns laterHe is smarter than most of his kind...
>>565637336dont forget the glass cannon.
>>565637361giwtwm
>>565633769looks like she got buffed plenty already
>>565620278Calm down Mina!>>565620381Calm down Vyper!
>>565621238TRVEShe's closer to SSS+>>565633693KevinKINGS we beat the allegations
Sex with Drifter
>>565637408why are people down playing drifter again?
>>565638320Calm down Holliday!
>Be paradox>27k souls with echo shard>Solo gank nigfernus who is also 27k souls>Make him stand in both grenades for full duration after making floor lava>He is half health>I dieNice game.
Holliday is secretly SSSSSSS+ tier but only us Eternus 7 players know how to play her properly
>long queue timethe game really REALLY wants me to lose the next match. winning streak over :c
>>565638505>when the dps hero does more dps than the support/pick hero
>>565638560>when your dps hero gets downgraded to a support hero and now you are doomed to forever be a jobber
what the fuck do i even build on ivy
>>565633565when will yoshi publish their sex tape
>>565638750what do you even want to do on ivythat is the first question you need to ask yourself
Add sex-based minigames with the hideout Abrams already
>>565638916win
Ivy is what all heroes should aspire to be: all builds are viable on her, unlike the latest heroes that are pushed into the "one playstyle only" box
>>565638750titianic, tesla, cooldown, expansion, lightning scroll, echo shardgrab a couple on-use as needed
>>565637398mechanically coolpractically ridiculousi'd give it less than an hour before someone starts abusing it to funnel souls into their hyper carry
>>565637408you have too many mods
>>565639325don't let them knowicefraud let you transfer gold to other players in wc3 dota at one point
>>565638916>>565638750healing tempo + actives and just sit next to your migger the whole game
Guys, I'm not really a shooter gaymer, my aim isn't good, but it's completely dogshit, I'm average. Do you think I can compensate with other things? Or will I ALWAYS lose my lane, if the opponent has significantly better aim?
>>565639839it's not completely dogshit*
>>565639839heroes with on-hit passives will make your life hellyour best bet is to buy extra regen and stall the lane for as long as you can
>>565639839good macro and movement can only take you so far, you're almost always going to be at a disadvantage when you find yourself in a straight fight against another heroand it doesn't help that the top ranks are dominated by m1keys that constantly demand nerfs to anything they perceive as "low skill" (see: any source of damage that isn't just shooting a guy)
>in phantom>friend wants me to invite him so he can play games with meDo I make an alt? How should I handle this? It's an invite only game so surely this situation has come up
>>565640323tell him that he should play the game by himself for a bit so he can have fun in low match queue.otherwise you are going to be a urn janny since you'll have to fix his income constantly
>>565638750I just buy capacitor, healbane, healing tempo and some other debuffs and hug my migger with maxed kudzu.Ivy tied to wraith turns you both immortal.
>>565639839If the opponent has better aim and has an on-hit effect on their gun, then a lot of the time all you can really do is accept that you're going to lose lane and do your best not to feed. Sometimes, playing smart is knowing when to fold.
The second I get trophy collector im coming to your lane
>>565638950
>>565640501I should've left after this match, things immediately went to shit. Was fun.
>>565623487I don't care I want to see part 2 of this where they fuck.
>>565633787hey thats my kelbin.jpg fucker give it back
>>565639839you can play spirtniggers like apollo but be prepared for your team to ignore the lead you give them and throw lategame
PNPS0PNPS0PNPS0PNPS0Inhouse....
>>565641071If I see that one lash player again I'm going to cry
>>565624925League brain tbqh senpai
>>565624925>forgetting "frontliner"anon...
Here's the trio on your team, bro!
>>565641995>the peruvians have arrivedits over..........
>>565640664this match is the only reason ill be able to sleep easy tonight. Had a string of STINKERS today. The total happiness in the world increased you might say
>>565641995>Venator and Shiv>3 and 2 kills respectively Don't know how that's humanly possible
>no one taking jungle>perpetual bunga fighting
>>565642371the brool consumes ooall.......
>>565642118>trophy collector drifterthe kind of greed they talk about in the bible
>>565642747drifter vs. remwho's more greedy...
>>565620657>lose 8 games de-rank >win 4 in a row>check my rank>I dropped by twoI have no clue if its even real
>>565642747how is it greedy? it's literally the correct play for heros that fight often instead of farming
>>565642118>the dance of anticipation staring at the frozen dinnerlel
I want to make Lilah Silver feel happy and satisfied with her position in life for once.
>>565643185i want to mate with her
Is there a counter to ivy gargoyle stun spam? Some guy just single handedly won the game with this shit
>>565643282Yes, that's important too
>>565623480you NEED to build extra stamina early and stamina mastery at some point in the midgame.
>be mina against vindicta in lane>wait for her to fly>ult and rape herNEW YORK WILL BE MINE
How do I play Billy? He's squishy as hell so I can't just jump into crowds like his ult suggests I should. He straight up dies to a single parry (absurd) and his gun damage is underwhelming. Plus without Melee Charge he can't even get a heavy melee punish if someone whiffs a parry in his face because you can just dash away for free. I don't get him at all.
>>565642747My greed is antediluvian
>>565643313don't stand near her
>>565643624>I don't get him at all.farm with him for a bit, he only needs two or so powerspikes before its actual partytime
>>565642118I consistently get enough participation as mina to stack trophy collector but I never have the balls to buy it early
>>565643313yes?if you're support -> curseif you're carry -> unstop
>>565643843pocket would go>thank fucking god PLEASE never talk to me againif mina said that to him
>>565643313Yeah, lol. Plenty. In rough order of general usefulness besides just countering her stun spam:CounterspellIndomitableUnstoppableEthereal ShiftDebuff ReducerBlood TributeFrenzy
>>565643843this would be pocket saying this to mina btw
>>565643610>see a mina go to solo ult the vindicta>vindicta pops unstop and just headshots the mina out of existenceIt was kinda funny in the moment but I noticed after the game that the Vindicta was cheating with a perfect accuracy and and a perfect 50/50 gun and gun-crit damage.
>>565643843who makes this shit its literally canon mina never loved pocket she just wanted the name
aww look he's smiling
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PNPS0PNPS0PNPS0INHOUSE UP HOLY
>>565625118The same thing is happing to me with mo & krill. I used to play him when I want to win but after this patch I lose games nonstop. Whats weird is I would always but trophy collector so it should be easier now.
>>565642118>>565643710is drifter actually good? He looks kinda busted with that damage and being able to just instant transmission
>>565644528If your team is losing you'll lose even harder. If your team is winning you'll lock in that win.
DYSPO PICK NIGGER
played 1 game went from emmisary 5 -> archon 1 then next game -> archon 3i wonder if they're fixing matchmaking
Why do I need to win gorillion games to rank up a single division and I get ranked down if I lose one(1) fucking game?
>>565645439because personal performance is taken into account
Obviously you don't care (you shouldn't) but imma take a break from visiting and posting in /dlg/. The plan right now is to make it at least a month off but it might be permanent, who knows really.The reason for it is that I've ended up coming here so often that it lead to me waking up today, and the first though I had on my mind was: 'I wonder what's happening in the deadcock general'. It's a clear sigh of addiction or simple retardation so I gotta fix myself based on that.My journey with the game is not over yet though as I wish to continue improving my dogshit performance. Let's see where I end up with my hard caps thanks to physical and mental capacities.I would like to thank you all for the fun I had chatting with you. You guys are great, truly. The trve sovl of Deadlock. Keep it up lads!I've posted this message few hours ago and this is the last time I'll do so. If you see any posts in the future claiming to be me from that point onward, let it be known they are not me.>t.Gorth 2/2(I ended up dropping 3 divisions today, with two losses before this one getting me matched with a literal russian whore going 1/7/1 on Vindicta. Mental ruined, not sure what's wrong with matchmaking. I've played various characters just to get fucked over every time.)
>>565645439Rank is HIGHLY weighted by farming and item timing.If your winning games with farm on par for your rank you won't go up yet if you get shitstomped and have half the farm youre suppose to it is a huge hit to your mmr.
>>565645743So whenever dogshit mm decides its my turn to get raped I get a derank because I got raped? Damn this is retarded
has anyone bought deadlock accsi dont know how long it takes to receive the invite and i want to play with a friend..
>>565645896Yes yes mm is bad more news about the sky being blue at the top of the hour.
>>565646020just pirate it like the rest of us
why does silver have a cock bulge
>>565646094she has a big meaty high test woman clit
>>565646094Time to let out the beast!
hero masteries when
>>565646560>master Abrams>dick gets bigger
>>565646094too much yeast in her cookie
>>565646560When Deadlock+ comes out
Am i insnae or are resist items just useless especially for spirit. Im buying so many to survive agaisnt heroes like mina, geist, viscous and calico but it just seems not to matter
>>565646640god he was big...
Nah they changed something with the matchmaking with this patch, every single game has been a totally one sided stomp. Before this new patch it was only every other game.
>>565646094it's a padded cup so she can't be cunt punted by any of her marks
>its another full spirit rem that does nothing all game>its another enemy rem that hard carries
>>565645743>winning lane isn't enough I need to learn parkour and do boxes anywayI'm archon and that's alright
>>565646897God he was blue...
Alice hero when?
>>565646094she is trans.occam's razor.
>>565645896Once you lose a few games in a row you're almost guaranteed to extend it into a full loss streak because the game will send you to on average lower rank lobbies where the enemy team will have people actually of that rank and you'll get people below it with you dragging the average up and then they'll all get dumpstered and unless you're playing one of the current S tier meta heroes it's an auto loss.
>>565645743so i need to play seven and farm all game?
I like Doorman, but his laning phase with the shitty gun is absolute torture.
why would you get opening rounds over intensifying mag
The boosted wolf fags flee when no man pursueth; but the honest are bold as a lion.
>>565647638Get both. By the time opening stops procing, intensifying will take over.
I was in Alchemist last month but now I've been grinding Holliday like crazy! She's such a fun character, a little tricky so lost a couple games though.
>>565647626Doorman is literally one of the best laners in the game, you're doing something wrong
Silver is so fucking broken this patch jesus christ is it just everyone else having lower health?
>>565647618He's bullshitting you lmao. It's the dynamoARYANS who hit one ult in the late game that are climbing rn.
>support takes (1) one of my jungle campsok time to afk
Man imagine being one of these corny ass niggas who just spam paige and dynamo on street brawl
>>565644105wtf
>>565646890they fuck with it every patch and it still sucks shit going from blow out to blow out is fucking retarded
>>565647743I hate his gun. Everything else is good.
is joechuck the king of pedos
Is learning shiv worth it in this meta?
>cheatsdidn't watch
>>565642118Damn that air mark >>565643710That Sinclair likes to steal your ult
>>565647867>"YOU PICKED "x" IN BROOL">actkually i randomed>"me too">"me too">"same">"i'm gay"
>e4 lobby>dog shit shiv with the lowest networth in the lobby flaming me for taking all 3 walkers instead of showing up to permanently brawl on seven>still have the same hero damage as him>check his tracklock>thisit's amazing how boosted tank players are. they all have the largest fucking egos and all they do is hold w in enemy jungle running it the fuck down so actually sentient players can advance the game for them and they're too fucking retarded to even notice.
>standing behind a fucking building against mirage>mark counter goes up to 4 in a few secondsthe fuck
>>565648343>Obsessed with ecelebs>Fake edgy insultRetarded and underage
>>565645743oh wonderful so I've been held back at e2 as a support player all this time huh.
With these hands I will rape and with these hands I will gape.
>>565646936it's been shit for weeks bro lets not pretend. was shit for weeks in february too. simmered down in march. became shit again in april. now I bet anything it'll calm down in may and be shit in june. swear there's a pattern.
>>565646094>Silver should be buf-
>>565649004most doormen mains are trans and/or pedophiles. stereotypes exist for a reason
>silence wave haze>breaks indomitable>hit her with spirit lasso>throw them under walker>400 health shield, no damage taken>sleeps me>runs awaynot touching holliday until the rework
Good matchmaking is impossible at this point, Deadcock has a higher skill celing than Dota has ever had, with only a tenth of the playerbase. There are too many variables to balance out with a pool this small.
>>565630772Hopefully never
does curse stops cheat death
>>565649650ye but you need to apply it before the cheat death activates i believe
>>565649343>Good matchmaking is impossible at this pointat this point its always been impossible, sure it gets people playing or some shit but when have you ever been impressed by matchmaking in any game
Holliday is cute but removing her clothes would buff her
I like art that makes Drifter look ugly, I'm tired of the "heded to bloo" guy being depicted as some sexlord
>>565646094>Turns out Silver being trans wasn't just a headcanon by her "puppygirl Lilith she/her #transrights" playerbase
Please stop picking rem, for the love of god i can't stand having this rat on my team its basically playing a 5v6
increased barrel lifetime (40s)if you use the barrel while in the ground, it places it where you're standingas long as you're in the air it goes to where you're aiming, no need for the light meleeexplodes automatically if any enemy gets near itthere you go, enjoy the 60% win rate
heded tu bloo
2 more for inhousePNPS0PNPS0PNPS0
>>565649926He is a sex lord.
why do people think holliday is "hard">crutch movement ability >hit a headshot once every 5 seconds
why the fuck am I getting turbo retarded peruvians in my EU lobby
>>565649805no you apply it after to dispel the buff. it's a passive. why would curse stop passives from going off?
1 more for inhousePNPS0PNPS0PNPS0
lynch dynamo
>>565651309>VAC ban
>>565651309>slav speak>vac ban>6 yearsthats a ruskie
>>565651431yeah that makes more sense
is drifter's chin really that pointy or is that supposed to be a beard
>>565650740Honestly, that does sound like a good fix for holliday.They can make the barrels last like 2 minutes if you just roll them out, doorman already gets to turbo stack like 5 bells for a instakill area
crazy how they made shiv say "die nigger die" when he kills infernus in today's political climate. i respect it.
Okay, I think I've found the Drifter build I enjoy the most. It's Spirit Firerate Drifter with Toxic.
>win fight>get rejuv>team proceeds to push yellow and start killing their shrines>their green/bñue and guardians were still up and they didn't even kill the last walker in yellow>proceed to spiral into loss afterwardsurely their masterplan of killing the patron while keeping the walkers and guardians up was going to play out 1000%
What's up with matchmaking today? I've had nothing but terrible games with long queues and for the first time in months I got my low prio characters picked when I have several at 1 arrow and 2 arrow. What is happening?
Mina should've been white instead of a gook.
light melees not interrupting your gun from firing would fix them, make them actual free additional damage in close range with some risk to it
>>565653369kek
>>565653408I mean as it stands they're usually a greater source of dps anyways when you mix it up
>>565621038I'm sorry but the Dynamo will never be nerfed, Thank you for your attention to this matter.
hope people in party get cancer
>Report ragehacker for cheating>Report guy who plays like shit and flames everyone non stop for chat >Report people who excessively feeding like 0-14 for griefing>Inevitably wind up with one of these every so often even though the reports are 100% justifiedWhat's the fucking point?
>>565621038>try to play mina because I heard she's around 50% and can reliably pick her unlike infernus and wraith after the march patch>immediately shoots up to 55% just like wraith and infernus and is about to be impossible to pick and then receive 19 inches of nerfs soon enoughFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK
>>565653842>the dynamo
>>565620005I never played this game but I want to know what is this scary bird demon thing? This is supposed to be a some kind of evil spirit?
>>565654025stack niggers are boosted. they legitimately think they're doing something special when they're on a discord call abusing the shitty hero pick system by guaranteeing they each get their high prio hero by picking eachothers heroes in a 4 stack and taking 1/3rd of the votes for ban. these niggers are basically playing with draft mode and no one else is allowed in on it. also cue getting dogpiled with 4 ults if you're a threat to them because realistically they're terrible and can only win into uncoordinated solo queue teams.
>>565654545magic owl
>>565654545https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g80jCMWIGj0
this shit is literally doomed without huge changes
>>565654823ok
Is Lash completely unplayable this patch? Why does Valve hate him so much?
South American servers are so fucked dude. I get an ascendant 1 game when i'm phantom 2, The enemy team? A Eternus V drifter who goes 22/2. Like, the game didn't even try
>>565654983lash has been unplayable ever since the devs thought it was okay to have a 3k item in the game that functions the same as ethereal shift
>>565655063the entire fucking ranked system is messed up regardless. I'm e2 and I'm getting literal phantoms in my game that go 0-10 in lane.
>>565651148it's the same with niggers who think celeste movement is impressive>double jump and wall jump and float around at mach 10
Nothing tilts me more than the team ignoring urn. Like, i'm in a high phantom lobby. You should know that the urn is important. Its so fucking painful losing a 2v2 on the urn while the rest of the team does fuck all adn they just deliver for free
Mina pressing her ult has no counter, huh? If you try to do anything to her she just bats it.
>>565655703>use Knock down/anything>"this place sucks!"
>>565655703I genuinely think the silence aspect needs a build up too. It's just fucking dumb it's instant silence instant slow followed by dying 2-3 seconds later even with spirit resists.
>>565654983>>565655353lash was literally one of the best heroes last patch what the fuck are you niggers saying
>>565654983You have to run gun items, at the very least hybrid.
>Vindicta with counter spell killing everyone on the team>keep telling everyone to just buy knockdown >they don't >she never dies the entire game
>>565647754That and flag bearer healing was reduced so you're punished even harder
do i just abandon if there is a graves on my team?
dynamo is popping off again oh boy he's 11/2 and his stomps are hitting for 800 weeeee
>finally get a game where lane phase goes extremely well and im fed as billy so it should be easy to win after a loss streak>notice on the enemy team someone dc'd instantly so the game gets cancelled and doesnt get scoredfucking thing sucks
>>565637969should he be doing that in enemy sinners though?
>every hero I play is "low relative to skill rating" or worsefuk u yoshi
>>565658216No
>buy disarming hex so i can rape their carry as drifter 1v1>notice the carry i was raping bought dispel for it>mark him>he doesn't dispel it for the entire duration because he's saving it for the hex>pop in and oneshot him once he's 50% hp>if he dispels the mark i rape him with hexthe mark mindgame is pretty funny
>>565659085why not
I keep missing 3 as apollo...
>streetbrawl against a Graves, Apollo, Dynamo, and SevenCool I totally don't want to kill myself irl after that
I AM OFFICIALLY GOOD AT DEADLOCKnot the best, but cracking the ascendant floor has gotten me human rights and I can fully say that you should always get magic carpet on lash
>dynamo does too much dmg!meanwhile
>this is the enemy teamwhat the fuck was even the play here? the amount of chain CC was absurd
>>565661095>shitty apollocalico fucking sucks
>>565660970fuck you
why am i climbing rank so fast?
I need more man, more. I just don't know what i can do to improve further. At this point i think i actually need some coaching shit to tell me what i'm doing wrong or something, but i sure as shit ain't paying for it. Feels frustrating though, especially since i don't play carries so it feels like my impact on any given match is limited, but at the same time deep down i know its because i'm not doing enough, if i was doing more i'd win more
>>565661660idk but the opposite is happening to me>win 3 games>nothing>lose 1>drop multiple tierswtf
>>565657829I managed to win with a 1-15 Graves. It's possible. Though the game went on for like 10-15 minutes longer than it had to because of how much she fed the enemy.
>>565661317you wouldn't say that if she looks like this
>>565657829Better than having a rem on your team
>>565661095This is about 626 damage IF you hit all bombs, and that's a massive IFDynamo will easily match this damage and he will do it much easier, and if you want to avoid it you better be ready to pay the stamina tax.
>>565661973i had both a rem and graves on my team actually, lost in 20 minutes because it was a 6v4
Silver?More likeSlutver
>dynamoI know, but still this was fucking awful. I even had knockdown but when I targeted vindicta with it it got ate by someone else who was closer infront of her.
>venator graves and rem are the worst WR characters in eternus currentlyRem and graves i get, why the FUCK is venator bad in eternus?
>>565661919Nta, but you're right.
>>565662480>cancer vs aidslmao
>>565662480>1/11 pocket
>>565662530it's a brool meta but he needs 100k to go online
>>565663135>it's a brool metaElaborate
>>565661919>>565662569I am ta and you're wrong. Weak ass hero cry about something that's actually OP
I hope Dynano gets nerfed so I can play him
>>565663596Less HP, levels requiring fewer souls, and trophy collector all incentivise fighting early and often.
>>565661298>rem strike into mina silence into mina scroll stun into vyper petrify into warden ulted black holeniggerlicous.
>>565663596they made the game faster in the latest patch. drifter is really fucking good right now.
>>565662480>had knockdown but when I targeted vindicta with it it got ate by someone else who was closer infront of herThis is cancer. Is there no fix for this?
Im not gay, but i really find MikaelS super cute bros.
>>565664261swap the game to top down mode and just click on her from above.
>>565664501kys you obnoxious shill
>>565664724this is my history searching "deadlock general"the last general i was in was https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/563797945/kys you schizo faggot
I can't...no...its...Its...Its consuming me...the need....the need to...the need to...to...BROOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
*Cough*
>billy made a deal with the devil >the only thing his kit has to utilize his devil deal him hitting you with his headcouldnt they have been more creative with his kit?
>>565665376I play heroes in every single one of these tiers
>>565665376>abrams not in the absolute bottomI KNOW you don't play in EU because if you did you'd realise every abrams is some russian that charges in gets parried gets murdered and then seethes non stop
>>565665376every dynamo i've ever met is simultaneously chill and completely convinced that pressing their warp stone button and pressing 4 is the most skillful thing on the planet
>>565665387It's in character for Billy to be simple and uncreative.
>>565665491Depressing how true this is.
I just love that it doesnt matter how well you do in lane phase someone on another lane is feeding the haze or their carry so by the time lane phase is done they're just slaughtering everyone
/dlg/ keeps saying venator is strong and good but he has the lowest winrate in every single rank
Are Dynamo and Infernus the most dishonest characters?
>>565666046I play dynamo and I tell myself that maxxing my 1 and buying greater expansion+spirit burn makes me good at the gameBut in reality I like him for his teleport and AoE heal
>>565659441Because unless you're dominating hard enough to eat enemy jungle, that wastes their time when they go to eat their sinners and realize it's just shitty creeps
>seven just farms jungle through everything doesnt take walkers doesnt defend walkers doesnt contribute to team fights mid boss defend base just farms jungle why do people even play this game if they're gonna do this
>>565667259Add Apollo, Vindicta, and Graves and I will agree with you
>>565667204Rem has horrible winrates, that doesn't mean he's bad just that his playerbase are active 50/50 agents.Same with Venator, his kit is insane but the average ven player was dropped on the head as a kid and will let themselves get caught over and over again by not reading the map.
>>565667343well yeah that's why I leave the creep alone
>>565667350Meanwhile the Sevens I get brool nonstop, feed, and do an ult build
goyim defender vs abramsanklestatus: broken
>>565667512>Here's your ascendant seven for the tonight, 2k+ hours played on his account
>>565665376In my experience Infernus has the most toxic/whiny players. It used to be Haze before the ultbot nerf, I guess they all moved on to the barman
>>565667394How is Graves dishonest?
>>565621038>Doorman is actually still... le broken guys! XD>He can put shitty doors that move you away from a fight in a movement game and uhhhh you need to max invest into bells for them to do anything! Doesn't that sound so busted?>Oh and he has a minecraft jumping puzzle that has a 13 second refresh timer if your opponents have literally never played a video game before!Love it love all of it
>silver gets a little bit fed got 5 elims in lane phase>buy relic + focus lens and just do one after the other and she cant do anything>they lose because they only had a silver for a carry and I kept focusing her with activespeople really need to stop buying L > R I swear 9 times out of 10 im the only one buying counter items and then I have to lane janny too so I cant even use them half the time
>>565667752Doorman has been so gimped (to the point you can counterspell being put in his ult), and people will still seethe about him
>>565621038>holliday>above graves and hazelmao wot?
>>565667794>they lose because they only had a silver for a carrydraft can't come soon enough
>>565667698Brain dead easy gun that instantly steals soul orbs1 is fire and forget which is easily spammed2 is way too large, is hard to jump over despite looking shorter, and can trap the same people twice if they get knocked back into it3 just makes the auto-aim gun worse4 can be placed in cheese spots, zombies are extremely tanky despite them respawning She is a mistake character and the game would be better if she wasn’t added
>Feeder Holliday (2/16) bitches nonstop on the mic about other people's gameplay Maybe you have time to do that because you're FUCKING DEAD for half of the gameHe was black too
>>565668114People that feed so relentlessly and then still have the audacity to bitch and backseat others are such repulsive specimen, those subhumans have no shame or any thoughts in their brains.
>>565667752Ehh, I like playing him, I think he's in an alright spot.I do think he can fuck over his team if misplayed though. Too many people use his ult like Mo and Krill's, at the end of the day Doorman's ult is wasted on someone you think it would kill. You get MUCH more utility ulting someone with full health so their team is deprived of their help.
>>565668239This. It’s one thing to feed because you’re having a bad match or the enemy is just a Smurf; but yelling on the mic is unforgivable
>>565668292Yup, you should always try ulting someone when they're about to wreck shit (Billy mid ult, Warden mid ult, Silver mid ult). Neturalize the biggest threat so your team can clean up.
>>565668352Ever since they slowed down the animation of Billy's batswing I get so much cartoonish glee out of ulting a Billy in the middle of the animation before he can get his bat down.But yeah people try to use the ult to catch low health fleeing people, and half the time they just buy them a chance to do something to get out of it. Like I said, it's how a Mo and Krill should use his ult, not a Doorman. You don't get stacks for ult kills, you don't really care about using your ult on people outside of preferring to use it on people with poor movement.
>>565668645>Ever since they slowed down the animation of Billy's batswing I get so much cartoonish glee out of ulting a Billy in the middle of the animation before he can get his bat down.GO FUCK YOURSELF NIGGERFor some reason I always get kidnapped as billy, you doorman players aint right
REMOVEPARRIES
>>565668716>For some reasonYou charged into melee range of the guy with a melee range ult, and you're big and scary enough to be worth ulting
haven't played new patchwhat's the prognosis melee bros
What are the best gun items to get on doorman? I usually get opening rounds, but I can't decide between headhunter or sharpshooter for a second slot.
Billy is C tier only because of parries you dont even need to buy items to counter him how is that fair?
>>565669072Melee is still the weakest playstyle in the gameWhy the lifestrike nerfs haven't been reverted is beyond me.Even if melee was super OP rebuttal would always cancel it out by being both cheap and highly effective
>>565669131slow firing gun, so things like express shot/headshot items do better than fire rate for potency ones
make parries consume stamina
>Billy/Abrams go in to heavy melee>Get parried>Die>They go back in to heavy melee>Get parried >Die>Repeat x10Meleetards are forced 50/50 agents
>>565668292Pressing 4 on their highest value character so theyre essentially "stunned" for 3-5 seconds in a safe space is the dumbest cope I always see about this character.In a game with 6 characters having one less for a tad is going to matter that much less especially when big bursts are usually used in the first half of fights.
>>565669615Abrams has no excuse but Billy's core mechanic is meleeing if you dont melee as billy you might as well just go play Abrams then
>YOUR CRIMSON CHILDREN WILL FILL THE SKY, MINAwho's the father?
>>565669646You can also use the door to throw them somewhere on the other side of the map for the entire teamfight, but good luck doing that in a scramble.
>>565669864Drifter
>>565669864Silver
>>565669864daquan
Can somebody explain the relative value of resist reducers compared to raw damage/spirit?
>Vindicta gets counterspell and indomitable>only 2 knockdowns on the teamWhat the fuck do you actually do?
>>565670362phantom strike
Haze is missing
>>565670483Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see that handsome bastard
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=shiv_select_10.mp3https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=inferno_use_power2_08.mp3
>Billy or Abrams on your team>loseIt's that simple.
GOD he was BIG
DEY CAN RUN
>>565672014the question is, is it going to matter?
>>565672014... But it will only delay the inevitable
Fuck "walkers"Faggots will actively attack you under them, no stomps will happen whatsoever and you die
>>565672129Nothing matters
There are no honest charactersEvery single character in this ASSFAGGOTS game is designed to spike your cortisol in some way
>>565672818Stomp has a cooldown and it's extremely easy to bait it.
>>565669864
>>565673589He got NTRd by Victor, though
>win game>no rank change>lose game>derank 2 rankswtf
>GT can pop his curse trap midair with his 1Well shit
>risk a light melee in lane>get parried instantly>lose laneParries are fucking bullshit
The game is dying and the new items and weren't able to bring people back, it's over for us Deadlockers soon if VALVe doesn't hurry up with a new major patch.
>>565673589Mina sex
>>565623079i avoid haze on principle, not all cheaters play haze but all hazes are cheaters
Do you like doorman? Feels like doors would work a lot better in a game where the movement isn't as freeform. It's worse than playing l4d hunter
>every game I've won today has had dynamo on my team>every game I've lost today has had dynamo on the enemy team
What if Rem just had pants and a hat on? No shirt.DrawGODs please.
>Get a good team>Everyone communicating>No angry russian pig orc noises>Team actually punishes the enemy for 1 v 4s by taking urn when I get gangbangedMan I wish this happened all the time.
Went from Oracle 3 to Archon 6 over the past few days, think I'm done with the game now actually.
>use one light melee for the first time in the match>enemy instantly parries for the first time in the matchNot sus at all
>>565676043Hey buddy you could be me.>Reach Phantom 6>Get into a ascendant 1 game>Solo carry, so happy>Out of nowhere Yoshi flips the EOMM switch and I get the most soul-breaking loss streaks imagineable>Back to back Ult sevens, melee venators, gun rems on my team (Meanwhile the enemy gets Dynamo or Kelvin)>smurf ALWAYS ends up on the enemy team>Sent back to mid phantom
why are you allowed to reload with a full mag after you do the active reload minigame
>>565675562Doorman should canonically have a genderbend skin like Loki in Rivals
>team backdoors enemy base with no waves when the entire enemy team is dead instead of doing mid
>2 waves crashing on our base (only 1 patron health bar left)>leave enemy base to clear it>apollo opens mic screaming saying that I shouldn't be in base>enemy drifter suddenly shows up in base>gets hit by a billion turrets since I'm mcginnisi would get so mad if we lost a 50 minute game because we decided to ignore our spawn
>win game>dont rank up>lose game>rank downok
>Mom said it's my turn to win Street Brawl
>>565672818Sounds Based as fuck.Turrets are for sissies
>>565676535No if we're competing my situation is much worse, I was already only mid-Oracle with 1k hours, a couple hundred of which were from the initial beta, and now I have to play in Archon and Emissary lobbies the game the game expects me to carry and gives me people sub-Emissary and fills the other team with players of the actual average rank. I'm not good enough for that so 70% of these games are guaranteed losses.
>>565665376I'm in EU and the only people that should be in top are>AbramsI play Abrams and I have basic human decency, something most eastern europeans lack.>kelvinOnly russian women play him and they're too afraid of speaking up lest they get beaten by men they're not married to.Everyone else is a 50/50 except for carry players who are most often annoying to deal with.
>>565677761>except for carry players who are most often annoying to deal with.They're like that everywhere. Carries always have high ego and in my experience m1ggers are more prone to outbursts and melties
>play two normal 6v6 games>they're both cancer(as usual)Welp, back to street brawl it is, at the very least i checked the new trophy collector out and it's less shit(kinda) but still ultimately shit, it gets giga mogged by the egg
>hmm lets nerf bebops gun and also nerf shadow weave in the same patchnot biased at all
>>565677761t. Abrams player who has a meltie after getting parried in lane and blames his ally for not inting with him
Remove trophy collector or make it so you only get stacks from kills, as of now its unbalanceable to either extremes.
>Playing rem>team keeps telling me to take enemy sinners and use tunnels despite having no map control>listen to them and try to take enemy doubles>enemy abrams pins me to a wall and rapes me>get flamedfun
>>565665376Every Sinclair I encounter is a role playing faggot
You guys lied to me. Seven does not need 100k souls to win. The oses7 build is pretty good for playing mid game.
Remove parries.
Remove panties.
add passive souls generation to resto locket stacks to punish floorslop players into actually thinking when using CDs
>>565676620you can always reload with a full mag when you have active reload in your inventory, periodit's so you can trigger active reload without having to prejac a shot. it's QoLit should only let you trigger the full-ammo reload if it's not on cooldown but whatever
>>565620005Game is full of hackers
>>565679450Whose
>lane with dynamo>literally never uses stomp once>lane against dynamo>spams stomp off cooldownFun
Notice how ivy lost all of her unicorns after they got cucked by victor. Don’t make that mistake again, yoshi.
>>565680130>dynamo as my teammates>rapid recharge mystic reverb rush>dynamo as my enemy>mystic expansion, superior duration, refresher rushAlways the case.
>>565679072>listening to your team telling you how to play your heroA man chooses, a slave obeys
>>565680210wtf is a unicorns in this context
>>565677438Personal favorite is enchanted rescue beam>Why yes my team will heal one third of their health back every 15 seconds
>>565678647>shadow weave>nerfeddamn this general is retardedeven looking at it with the most naive point-of-view, the price was halved and yet the stats were only decreased by ~40%
>>565680381Same thing it means in the context of the JP mega idol and vtuber communities
>>565680210I still want to have sex with Ivy.
>>565680752I am not a part of any of thatI'm gonna go ahead and guess it's analogous to simp though?
>>565680752That still means nothing to anyone who isn't a raging faggot so care to elaborate
>>565681008its simps that think they can become the bf of the vtuber
>I ALWAYS GETS MY MANS!>'S finna BLOW!God what a fucking coalburning whore
>find enemy in my jungle>fight them>even fight>three other enemies show up before a single one of my teammates show up>0 objectives pushed by my team
>paradox on enemy team>echo grenade build with infinite damage>paradox on my team>gun build
>>565681723Our jungle I understand. THEIR jungle and complaining that the entire team isnt there is another story.
every vindicta is a tranny and/or russian using aimhacks, until proven otherwise
>>565681921Reread his post illiterate-kun... he isn't complaining about them not being their, he's complaining they didn't push objectives while he got gang banged
trophy collector meta has just led to 6v6 deathbrools on mid that start the moment laning phase ends
Maybe matchmaking has made me crazy, but if I have 4 heroes selected, I double arrow one of them. I get the double arrow one, and then i always see the other 3 heroes I selected in my game? Does this happen to anyone else? Or is this just coincidence?
>>565682096It shouldnt matter irregardless
Is there any support/assassin hybrid in this game? I've been playing Vindicta but haven't been feeling her since her rework.
>>565680648So I can buy a dogshit item that wastes a item slot for half off now instead of a good one, what a steal!
>>565678815I don't melee in lane because Abrams doesn't deal enough damage in lane for it to be worth not playing passively and just hoping for a misplay from the enemy to charge them into the guardian.
>>565682829Kelvin I guess
>>565682973>this item was nerfed>no it wasn't>well it's dogshit anywaysok
I want to play Viscous. But I don't see him often enough to be sure what sort of builds he's good at.Is he more of a support, or damage with utility? Is splatter the goto currently, or gun/melee good?
>>565681393>I thought I had this under control!(referring to her lust for BBC)>This is about to get messy...(referring to her pants after seeing Infernus)Silversissies... Why...
>>565683124Damage with utility, so splatter max into cube maxI hate the cube so much from the enemy POV
>>565683105How is halving a items stats not a nerf
>>565683124He's a support with potentially pretty high damage, depending on the meta he's more of a roamer/pick hero but that's not quite where he is right now. I'd say he's sort of strong at the moment but he's hard to play in pubs because part of why he's good is the cube and it's a lot harder to save people with limited coordination or if they're just playing retarded. They've kind of gutted both puddle punch and his ultimate so you should run splatter + cube, with rescue beam you have insane save potential. You'll need to learn puddle punch movement (not that hard) and how to control the ball properly (hard because it controls like complete shit) to get the most out of him.
>>565683105ntw but shadow weave isn't the best still. They should just give it the veilwalker stealth so it's not complete garbage.
>>565683409you know what else was halved about it? the costalso it's not an exact halving, the duration nerf and spirit/fire rate ambush nerf are less than half and the melee is a 20% of a nerfduration and CD are also not halvedobjectively speaking you are getting more value for cost
Yeah no that's great I love when the enemy Haze has 10 kills in laneDeathy considers this a C tier hero btw
>>565683953She really isn't that good
>>565683953alchemist issue
>another stomp dynamo on my team taking all the farm and being uselessholy fucking just buy duration and range you don't need reverb you FUCKING ROBOT
>>565683953Disarm
>>565683953In Eternus she's C tier because everyone can aim well and play around people having good aim. There are better heroes who fulfill the same or similar roles. In lower ranks she's (often) picked by people who can aim better than the average, pin estrogen, and cum hands free when they end games with 20 kills.
>>565683409they need to update your language model, your context should not be limited to just the last post you saw
>>565683953They always downplay OP heroes and upplay trash heroesRemember when Victor was 60% winrate and they insisted he was D tier? Also Silver is S+ tier despite having like 48% winrate lol
What are good high dps characters where I don't need precise aim? I like the gameplay of Mo Krill, but he doesn't do enough damage. I also enjoyed spamming dragons as Paige, but she isn't a dps character either.So what can I play? Mina is ok too because her 1 makes a lot of damage. But I need more than 1 character.
>>565684309>They always downplay OP heroes and upplay trash heroesThis has to be because they're selling coaching lessons>BRO WTF I PLAYED SILVER (DEATHY SAID SHE IS S+ TIER) BUT I JUST FED LIKE A TARD, HMM MAYBE I SHOULD JOIN HIS COACHING PROGRAM!
>>565684309>players at the highest level are playing a different game than pisslow midwitsmindblowing
>>565684309>He thinks Victor is goodWay to out yourself as a low elo tard.He does nothing, just shoot him little nigga and pop him like a balloon
kekd
>>565658234that gay skill rating thing is just "do you play carry and reach a certain SPM" checkmark. if you're a support player and aren't vacuum farming a sidelane all game it thinks you're bad.
>>565684309>Also Silver is S+ tier despite having like 48% winrate lolShe's at 54% in E4+ with a 37% pick rate. The hero is broken, you're bad at her because you can't land all her abilities.
>>565684463Victor only having 56% winrate in E6 instead of 60% sure means he's D tier
600 hours flushed down the drainI'm permastuck ritualist, almost never get kills, and have literally never carried a game before
>>565665376tfw my heroes are always on the good side of these tier lists
>>565684548Did you miss the part where I said "remember", as in not right now?You silver upplayers are so fucking retarded lmao
>>565684493say that to my drifter who went 0-11 in 9 minutes to one, ASScendant btw
EVIL DIES TODAY
>>565684693>Remember when Victor was>New sentence begins>Also Silver isYou switched tense you fucking retard the meaning you conveyed is that they insisted Victor was bad at a time he had a 60% win rate and that they currently insist Silver is good despite having a 48% win rate.
i want to play m1 but i don't want farmslopwhich heroes do i play
>>565684320shiv lash sinclair
>>565684924DrifterOne of the worst farmers, one of the best gankers and broolers
>>565684924Gun Lash is really fun. Reminds me of 2024 Lash with perma up time on grapple.
>>565684920You are retarded, stop using winrates from a tiny amount of data as some god given proof that a hero is strong.
>>565684409there is a wierd hidden cabal like control streamerfags/ecelebfags have over this game. Having seekers doing boxruns when they could just buy monster rounds and have unlimited lane pressure into a good matchup (yes I know running boxes is the meta but this game has an issue with new players not understanding fundamentals because they all want to be e6 or something).
>>565684920Cope harder retarded troon lmao
>>565685056Okay I'll use my own personal experience where Silver seems broken on this current patch so long as the person playing her can aim well enough to hit her abilities and regularly has the most kills, damage, and souls on her team.
I ban Rem because he's a literal griefing hero on your team when he clears all the fucking Sinners.
>>565685185>run out of arguments>c-cope! t-t-t-troon!midwits must be forced to face the wall
>>565684501Doing Lord's work, anon.
>>565685362>misunderstand basic english>u ur midwit!ok saar thank you saar silver op saar
>>565685658>was>iswall
>>565685658>>misunderstand basic englishYou're the ESL who switched between past and current tense completely twisting the meaning of what you were trying to say lmao
>>565679450mina…
>>565685758>>565685770lmao silver upplayer discortroons triggered
>try victor again>just int with ult as wraith does everythingyurp
Why do shitlows struggle so much on Venator?
>>565685952back to the ol' well, huh? already self-soothing again
silverbros stop you’re embarrassing us…
>silver upplayers having a meltie againlmao
not really sure what it is because i don't think there was any direct changes to any of Paiges stuff but since the last patch I feel like I can barely contribute anything (eternus/ascendant matches).maybe i should just dragonmax and throw shit
>11k dmg Warden>20k dmg Mina>13k dmg dash Infern>Me 32k dmg support ViscousIm gonna SCREAM
>>565686313you need to baddragonmax instead
>>565684501Did you put ballistics on nades or trap?
>>565677438>No Mom said it's MY TURN TO WIN STREET BRAWLNo seriously. I had a god tier shiv 1v7 dash build set up by round 3 but then their enemy lash got pic rel plus enhanced transcendent cooldown so every 6 seconds his entire team healed for all their HP back and stomped us because my leech could only do so much and everyone else on my team was completely useless.
>>565686046I struggle because I play him as a long-mid range character, also I can never seem to hit with the grenades.
>>565686046He requires good positioning to get the best of his kit and the average glue sniffer m1 player will hold w
>>565686380Viscous solo queue is torture
>>565686512They explode after a set time from bouncing off of something, if you get used to it with a little bit of range up (Ballistic enhancement or something) you can easily airburst them onto people.I presume its cause he gotta labelled as super SS niggertruppen strong and shitters are flocking to him for easy wins but he's one of the harder carries to do well on is the reason.
Gun ivy? In this economy? What happened to spirit ivy?Haven't played in almost a month.
The concept of a 'pick' hero seems like a myth to me. Nobody is ever truly fucking alone in this fuckass game
>>565686495>10 seconds for a global 60% healJesus fucking christ, i don't even think the other enhanced legendaries are as bullshit as that.
>>565686561Posititioning is also more difficult at lower ranks because your team are huffing glue and acting like crazy people. You can't rely on them to be doing the right thing, or standing in the right place. 'backliners' will just get gang raped in the middle of fights with none of their team noticing because they're busy chasing Apollo around in circles.It's much harder to position well when any enemy player can just chose to run you down and probably won't be punished unless you can kill them yourself.
>>565686761A faggot uploaded a video about gunivy. So now every Ivy is running a shit gun build for no reason.
>>565686598Tell me about it.>Bunga Bebop upclose ulting a maxed aura Victor>Cube and save his retarded ass>"IDIOT I WAS GOING TO KILL HIM!"after one melty, you lose cube privileges
>>565686793>>565686561If Ven is smart, rushing venator is one of the stupidest things you can do because venator can back up into a building and then rape you.But if ven is smart enough to do that, they're not in shitlow.
>>565686495I got this once or twice its basically a free win, your whole team is perma at 90-100%. Enhanced piano is funny but I still didnt win because my team sucked.
>>565687031>pull back into a building>they chase>shotgun them>they bounce off the wall with no stun and I get raped to death
>>565686919Was it Cyrus? Because even in Cyrus's video he said gun ivy wasn't good.>>565687165Eventually it clicks and you never miss a wall stun ever again. I don't know how to explain it.
>bebop>half the enemy team have indom
>>565687415Just uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
which character will carry me to E6 if I sucks at aiming, macro, movement
>>565687354>Was it Cyrus? Because even in Cyrus's video he said gun ivy wasn't good.Yes. Doesn't matter if its good or not that caused mass adoption of gun ivy for no good reason.Rushing 4.8k with tesla isn't bad for wave clear and farm speed though, especially if you were picking up spirit damage debuffs. Toxic is maybe better, probably depends on game state and enemy team.
>>565687551mo
I don't think I've ever listened to a single thing a deadlocktuber/streamer faggot has ever said nor should any of you
>>565687415Indom makes problem child ults like dynamo worse, fucks over ults with already clear counterplay like Lash, and also removes skill expression by discouraging people from getting good with counterspell because they instead can just crutch on indom.Genuinely a bad item that needs to get reworked or removed soon.>>565687750That's fucking mean to lie to that Anon like that.
>>565687892it's true, a guy called palmer is e6 as a mo one trick but if you watch his streams he plays like a retard
>>565687892>muh skill expression
>>565688180Yes nigger. Crutches are bad for games.
>>565687892i will have my parry retard helmet
>>565687551OPENING
remove indominable
We need a new green that lets you click on the map and it auto paths to it while doing all of the movement autism for you.
>Victor is a carry>Looks inside >You just hold W and soak up aggro while your m1ggers carry you
matchmaking
>>565686458trap to make the active hitbox invisible when the trap is put around corners
>>565687892It'll either get nuked extremely soon or it'll get ignored completely because it's a 'bad' item until the devs finally do something about it and then every seeker player ever cries out because their crutch mistake fixer 9000 they've gotten used too after months got removed and they actually need to learn to counter spell or position better.
I'm going to cry in a cornerLash got raped and killedNobody ever counterspelled me... now they have an auto counterspell...
Counterspell is a crutch.
>>565689194>t. doesn't know what a crutch is.
Does anyone know if the gutshot tier 5 upgrade that blesses your next heavy melee also executes targets below 8% hp, or does it only give the pure bonus damage?
schmoovement is a crutch
>get 5 (FIVE) team mates that all want to sit mid and permanently brawl against tanks>lose because no one actually farmedAMAZING MATCHMAKING YOSHIT
aiming is a crutch
remove movement exploits, its tranny shitremove celeste and silver, they are tranny characters
>rush trophy collector>get stuck as lane janny for half the game
>>565686046Unlike other strong M1s doesn't have any innate hyperscaling at all, no real mobility tool, and requires a good amount of finesse to actually use his kit effectively
>>565689450>>get 5 (FIVE) team mates that all want to sit mid and permanently brawl against tanksIt's not a matchmaking thing, it's a trophy collector thing. Ever since that item got buffed, everybody and their mother rushes it and after 10 minutes it's just a permanent 6v6 in blue lane
remove strategy and macro, it's tranny shitremove ranks and mmr, they are tranny inventions
I can't wait to play ivy + victor tonight
>>565689696nah it's not a permanent 6v6 it's a permanent 5v4 while the enemy carries sidelane and vacuum up literally our entire jungle because I have to sit and depush 1 of the sidelanes and the others neglected to fuck and I can't jungle in between ziplining. It's just unbelievable. do these niggers realise they snowball way harder just getting solo farm? HOW ARE THEY THIS RETARDED. WHY ARE THEY CHASING A SHITTY 18 SPM STACK
>>565689768this but unironically
The sooner laning is done the better because then I get to play half the game single player being lane janny and jungle fondler
>>565689768seething tranny
win lane, win gamelose lane, lose gamesimple as
>>565690028>seething trannyseething tranny
wow what a totally not overloaded and overpowered ability!>slows you>also applies a 1.5x inhibitor>also rapes your fire rate>also reduces stam quicker than you can possibly regenerate it>braindead easy to land and on a five second CD with no CDR investmentcan these piece of shit devs get replaced already
>>565686046venator is dogshit in eternus thougheverbeit
>>565690181he's actually SSS tier like every hero below 50% winrate also every hero above 50% winrate are D or maybe C tier at best
>>565690181He's too fragile now with the lower HP and faster ability unlocks, probably still good in tournaments though.
>>565686046I struggle because I'm>aimlet>positionlet>can't really get around gutshot-trap-melee combo
I'm in disbelief that witchmail has been allowed to be the way it is for as long as it has.
I want to play melee but im not fond of ONLY Abrams getting free melee damage per boon, not a single other hero in the game has this trait
>>565690832It's not a huge increase bro, it's like 0.10 extra damage per boon
>dynamo on enemy team>lose>dynamo on my team>wincan we just remove this character
>>565690832his extra melee damage is literally nothing
>>565691097wdym bro he got a 2 second longer CD on the most OP escape tool in the game he's balanced!!!
>>565691182>2 secondone second
>>565689396True.
>Silver on the enemy team>Collect my free winthe billy matchup is so funny, you just spam bashdowns in her wolf form and she can't play
>Click on video that says (Patch breakdown) without looking at the creator>"Goddamnit it's an edited eido stream vod. Well at least he's actually talking about the patch this time.">He talks about the patch for TWO MINUTES AND FORTY SECONDS>The rest of the TWENTY MINUTE VIDEO IS JUST AN EDITED VOD OF NORMAL FUCKING GAMES AND NOT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING PATCH LIKE THE TITLE SAYSI should have known.Genuinely streamer niggers who just edit vods and clickbait need to be shot.
My good luck ran out and i started getting paired with subhuman retards again.
Remove.Parries.
>>565691429I always ban either Silver or Holliday because if I get either one in my team it's a guaranteed loss.
>get great game great lane partner great everything one game>the very next game my lane partner feeds to a fucking Rem
>>565691429>>565691754ummm but she's le SSSSSSS tier????
>>565691860At high ranks where coomer retards and waifufags don't play, yeah
Waiter, waiter! More silver nerfs please!
Is Eternal Gift the worst legendary?
>>565692019At high ranks there are way more trannies and coomers though
>>565690832every hero gets +melee damage per boon>>565690909it's +1.7 base melee damage, +0.1 is his base weapon damage increase. his gun is a shotgun, so that's +0.9 bullet damage per shot. which is then multiplied by your total +weapon damage% increasemelee is also scaled by +weapon damage%, but at 50% effectiveness+melee damage% stacks additively with your +weapon damage% increase
>>565692440Will the upplayers finally admit she's weak now? They pretended she was strong at sub 50% winrate, surely they won't keep pretending now.
>>565692019I just don't see it man, she can be annoying to fight in lane but her wave clear is so comically shitIts very easy to punish her.Even if you have the perfect lane combo with a hero that shreds waves, guess what lane doesn't matter. This silver in my game got 3 kills in lane, roamed perfectly but with a single kill on her I had ended up with a 2k+ soul advantage on that alone. The game went as you can expect despite the dude playing his heart out.
I'm exclusively getting team mates that refuse to farm lanes and instead sit in jungle with the most inefficient farming imaginable while we lose whatever walker I'm not jannying. Five complete retards who will sit in jungle, farm big bags, not buy anything, and run it down into jungle and feeds people who are 10k ahead of them because they were farming lanes. What causes this mass retardation? It's like this is considered normal to do but only on my fucking teams.
>>565692874Please refer to the high eternus winrate m'lord >>565692440 she is simply a high skill ceiling hero
What's the plan?
>>565692948but...but i need to clear this t3 camp before i destroy the creeps attacking the walker that'll give me more money...
>fixes you're ivy
PULL.BACK.
Every Shiv nerf just makes it feel like it takes longer for hum to have enough stats to play the game.They're never going to turn him into a close range brawler with nerfs.
I don't like this new updateMina is too good now and i barely get to play her because of meta slave faggots who found new hero to abuse, just great!
>>565694328can't fix perfection, anon
>>565620005>16 hours and 40 minutes agoit's over
>>565694523>my perma-S tier character is now S+ googoo gagakys
>>565693208so when do I get to win? when do I get the people that actually go positive for once? this is my last 4 games, I do well, my team does shit, we lose.
>>565695649look bwo i really need improved spirit...i dont care if mina and apollo are destroying me I NEED improved spirit okay? the build guide said to buy it i dont care
>>565695725I think the best part is being berated by niggers telling me they've got the same networth as me and I look at their souls by source and like 3k of it is comeback gold so they did so fucking shit they ticked 3k of that passive generation and think this is some accomplishment. absolute fucking animals I want to euthanise them.
>>565695671should've went im+ar+gc+sharpshooter
its really cool how apollo's parry mitigates damage and on-hit effects and also stuns you and also moves him 50 meters away from you and also has an extended parry window and also a low enough cooldown that you can use it multiple times per engagement wow what a balanced skill
>>565696324>Max rank is a 2 second stunFORWHATREASON
>>565695649you are using the perma-shitlow evaluation lensyou will not improve if you continue to examine your games like this
