There's still time to submit your demo edition!>Demo DaysNOW: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>565526976
first for gabencunt
I think I'm going to have to do the thing I was dreading the most from the moment I started this project:Buildings and trees.I kinda know how to do trees from blender tutorials, but IDK the optimal route for doing buildings
Which one is better?
>>565610772guy sitting next to me did a game jam and started by making a treeand suffered for ityou really want to find a way to populate leaves on a tree without doing it manually
My brother is saying that I should make images for posting threads optional. Wtf? That wouldn't look good
>>565610913I know how to do leaves without doing it manually, via a particle system and vertex groups.Buildings?Only thing I've been able to model was a fucking door
If you have enough content to be in demo Day, you have enough content for our quickshots segment in /v/3. Send your gameplay clips now! There's only (22) spots left! https://forms.gle/X12ZP7CkDieeUdsE9
>>565611037virus
>>565610862you only posted one
bro how the FUCK can you have problems modelling a fucking BUILDING?you can literally just stretch a photo over a very primitive shape and call it a day, this is the most basic way to do it and literally even a monkey could do ithow in the fuck can ANYONE struggle with this?
Reposting it here since people seem to like it
>>565611018I sure hope you're using references. Otherwise it's just, have fun getting good at the reference->model process.
>>565611229Thanks :)
>>565611135soul-zone isn't a virus, it's a way to make money off your creativityAnons should start posting in the sfx board, I need to collect them for my game and I'll also be creating some once I learn howhttps://soul-zone.org/catalogs/sfx/postsAlso, no porn or lewd images on my site, seeing that constantly isn't healthy for your mind
>Game Played:Heralds of Heroism>Feedback:I played it to the end and it was fun, replayed the last level trying to max out all skills but stopped short of actually doing that. But in its current state this is NGMI. It lack's something I can't put into words that other similar games do better. It doesn't help that the art quality is so low. And even then if the art was suddenly 9/10 it still lacks something deeper that would probably limit it to the 100-900 review range.>Bugs:There is a memory leak. It became noticeable early on but I kept playing. If I read it right, near the end of playing the sole Firefox tab for the game was taking almost 8000mb of memory. Even when I'd go back to the main menu the problem was not resolved.
>>565611229>people seem to like itI love it.
>>565611475>it's a way to make money off your creativitykill yourself free loading benchod
>>565611037working on it
>>565611334You're welcome!>>565611548You're awesome!
>>565610862Doing the work yourself.
>>565611549I'll pay for sound effects, I wanted to include like .25 cent payments on my site to reveal content but small hats hate small payments. I honestly think if we could use micro transactions for shit like sprite sheets or whatever the NEET economy could flow a little better. Paying $1 for a song when you have thousands of songs just isn't feasible. You should pay like a cent or something. That way musicians aren't getting stolen from, they're getting thousands of cents on the dollar
>>565611229legally speaking is there anything wrong with this game?
>>565611037Just sent mine, can you fast-track it?
>>565611979>>565611229>>565611334>>565611548is anyone here NOT a pdf???
>>565611861And that's where my dream of this site is going, I want to pay for all this dank trance music to support the artists without going broke paying a dollar on ijewnshttps://youtu.be/s64HwyhHlW4
>>565611360I use ai and I will never stop
>>565612125Meant for >>565611859
>>565612107Me.
>>565612107Also not allowed on my siteThat and not allowing discussions about poopdickschizo to prevail
>>565612107It's just a game, bro.
luddy bros, our 'sponse?
>>565612274>poopdickschizowho
>>565612370Exactly. It's an anonymous website, discussions of poopdickschizo should not exist
>>565612359
>>565612107You're on the wrong website, kid.
>>565612465troll
>>565612508Joker doesn't have green skin retard
>>565612554Nope, I've been working on soul zone for over a year and I'm glad it's up cause I'm going to be advertising my game on there for free just like hopefully all of you are as well. You just have to actually finish your game which is what the [F0unta1N] concept is all about It's a productivity website
>>565611979Nah, it's relatively tame
>>565612842"Luddite" would be considered propaganda on my site which is not allowedI'm hoping all NEETs and brokies and whatnot use my site to finish up and get paid to do what they love
My game is my opus magnum. Certain people write books. A certain man named Kant wrote the Critique of Pure Reason. It's a giant internally-consistent machine that runs on its own. A pure product of his spirit.My game is also a giant machine running on its own. It's also a pure product of my spirit. It's my own Critique.Nobody will look at the underlying code, but sometimes I imagine some fat nerdy type will look at it and gasp "Wow, that guy's a truly a genius." This alone is worth one hundred times more than one thousand Jeet and Troon or other non-sentients' reviews on Steam.
>>565613159prompt?
okay, guess this works, just gotta light it up and put shadows on a layer beneath the cloth
>>565613212Fuck you for mixing with those losers
>>565613296done
this nigga would look at tranny porn, gore and scat without any issues but the second he sees a cute little girl doing something slightly suggestive he loses his mind
>>565613563>girl
>you know that working on a job in the tech field with some coding will net you a lot more than gamble years of "work" with a game release?>ngmi, shut it downYou all lmao about boku and his wagecage dreams of freedom, but you are just as delusional >crabSure thing buddies.
>>565613726*pushes you on the floor*
>>565613212>Six months ago, people arguing that AI was a bubble were pointing to real-world facts, whereas people arguing against the bubble hypothesis were making speculative promises about the future. Today, the roles have reversed. AI’s explosive growth may yet encounter some new unforeseen obstacle. But the burden of proof has shifted to the naysayers.Sorry luddies looks like the burden of proof has shifted to you, according to the financial system that keeps you fed and housed.
>>565613212Drugs are good.>>565613159I'm writing a philosophical work on how drugs can be good and friends can be bad. You don't need friends and you don't need to be sober For me games are a way of expressing multiple magnum opus creations like music, art, writing, programming, all things that I seek to strive in outside of the game as well
>>565612804I take methylphenidate, since it doesn't have as much euphoria as vyvanse or adderall, and mix it with pregabalin.It works pretty good, I'm able to concentrate for like 10 hours a day, sleep like a baby when it wears off, and pregabalin has, other than the relaxing properties, creativity and concentration enhancement too, also puts me in a good mood for the rest of the day.Kinda wish I would have taken the drug-enhancement pill 10 years ago, I would have made it by now.
>>565613920friends are a fake concept and drugs are forever
>>565613880Oh no no no, not like this, lu x'isters our response??
I now have a working prototipe off an engine.:)
>>565614053cris?
>>565611219Because buildings are really easy to fuck up
>>565614212proof?
>>565613995>>565614041Yes that's why have to write about it for future generations in the Discussion board and compile it into archived (Passages) for future and past reference so the discussions don't repeat endlessly. Discussions are called {M0unta1N}s and are also clickable links visible at the top of the page, once it is concluded the discussion highlights are archived and the same discussion cannot be had again on the board.
>>565614280schizobabble
>>565614261Look around you
>>565614373Propaganda is a bannable offense on my site.Other than that I think you'll find it quite easy to make on topic threads unlike jannies on here allow.No more endless repetition for infants, merely deterministic progress.
>>565614212you must be clinically retarded. buildings are among the few things you can fuck up, badly even, and 99% of gamers won't notice.most videogames in fact have very fucked buildings with oversized doors or sometimes straight up actual modelling errors and most gamercunts don't care. you are a retard
>>565614373https://soul-zone.org/catalogs/discuss/posts/1
>>565614546I don't think so
sending this to be l'us who don't 'preciate my game
Have you all realized a difference between games and other software is with other software people gravitate to the most mature established one but with games they prefer, if possible, the newest ones?That's one advantage games have over other software at least. Seems like all downsides in every other metric though, except that games are fun to use but in general other software is not.
>>565613563josh was definitely raped as a kid
Have you guys realized people treat potatoes and games differently? It is very interesting, both are made of atoms, yet people treat them so differently...
>>565615292And some may say that they do not gravitate to the newest games, that's why so many people play old games now, but actually that's because hardly anyone is making GOOD new games anymore, and people playing those old games is called "survivor bias" because those old games they play are the best old games that's why they survived. Another factor to old game's popularity is they're very cheap to buy. But if you account for all those other factors people still prefer new games when all other factors are equal.
>>565615292some of you tards spend way too much time thinking about the most inane bullshit
>>565614546Not if you're meant to go inside them
>>565615793tardo
>>565615434Electrons are subatomic particles, not atoms, tranny.
>>565615960Prove it, show me your game and lets see if it is made of electrons
Good enough for apple but not good enough for your game? Curious.
Spent 12 hours nonstop to get this done today. I hope it's mostly bug free.Input remapping works, but doesn't save the config if you restart.If you experience slowdowns. There's a setting that changes tickrate from 240 to 60.Also. I don't think anyone is beating this on their first sitting if at all. If you post proof of doing so and want to have a (SFW)name or some other little easter egg in the game, I can make it happen. I'll try to play some games tomorrow.
>>565616069
I learned to code in one of those bootcamps that teach web development so I have the most experience with html5/javascript.Has anyone here has used any html5 tools? because I'm undecided between Phaser and Construct
>>565616129Whoops, here is the right image.
>>565612034Yes! I liked seeing your game on brim's stream!
>>565615915Yeah
>>565616303If you already know HTML5/JS from a webdev bootcamp, I’d lean Phaser unless you specifically want a no-code/low-code editor workflow. Phaser is basically “make games with JavaScript,” so your existing skillset transfers directly, you can structure things like a normal code project, use npm/vite/typescript if you want, and you won’t be fighting the tool as much once the game gets custom. Construct is good if you want to prototype fast, make small arcade games, or avoid writing tons of boilerplate, but it can feel limiting if you actually like coding and want full control over weird systems, build pipeline, source control, custom shaders, etc. My advice would be: make the same tiny game in both, like a one-screen platformer or top-down shooter, and see which one annoys you less. For your background, Phaser is probably the safer long-term bet, Construct is the faster “get something moving today” option.
>>565615434>>565615741Y'all're acting like I'm a retard for pointing these "obvious" things out but I bet most of you have never bothered noticing them. Sometimes pointing out the obvious is the only time many people get an opportunity to notice it since they're busy thinking about other things.
>>565616129>>565616348Nice! Wonder how many more devs will return, seems like a lot have skipped this one
>>565616482>Hey me being retarded is good, many other retards can benefit from it!
>>565616476I'd recommend Phaser too before AI Coding Assistants got so incredibly effective. But now I recommend just asking your AI Assistant to get ThreeJS running for you and going full 3D instead of Phaser's 2D. But of course if you -want- 2D yeah Phaser is still the go-to
>>565616650how do i use ai?
>>565616482if you want to compare Dark Souls and Ableton Live while pretending to be deep, you go right on ahead
>>565616476Not to mention JS/HTML5/WebDev is what AI Coding Assistants are currently the best at.I think Construct (and other things like it) should be avoided now because AI Assistants nearly render anything it provides redundant. Other things that render it redundant is you can just make your maps/levels in Tiled (or that better newer one I can't remember the name of, LDTK?), and that you can instantly test your pure HTML5 games in the browser with instant hot reloading etc. At that point, what does Construct/etc even offer? An AI Coding Assistant won't even be as familiar with something like Construct as compared to pure HTML5 which it is best at, and you will run into roadblocks more often.
Hopefully your writing is nothing like this.
>>565612182Oh I know i just hate anti ai fags.
>>565616952guess you hate money
>>565616530>>565616348That's AI fag
I was going to say millennials are uniquely bad at writing, but actually its not limited to writing.
>>565616706The best one in my opinion right now is install Codex CLI and use it to with GPT 5.5 xHigh model (which it comes with. but you need a $20/month ChatGPT Plus subscription). Then you would open whatever Terminal is on your operating system (i use powershell since im on windows) and type "codex" which opens an AI Chat Window just like when you talk to it on your phone or browser except it has direct access to whatever folder you tell it your game should be in and so you talk to it like any mobile/browser AI and it will directly build your game for you and it's insanely effective.Then if you ever want to manually tweak or view the game's code yourself just open that same folder in VSCode and do whatever you want to it
>>565617127see >>565617006
>>565616952Why even have this setting if they are going to write Borderlands dialogue anyways.
>>565616706And the AI already knows to set up some easy to use commands to allow you to easily test your game, for example it will probably create an "npm run dev" command which means you just type "npm run dev" in a terminal and your browser opens with your game and you can play it and test it. it's much faster than unity for devspeed
>>565617420>it's much faster than unity for devspeedIts disturbing how far Unity and Unreal are on ai devving. I think Epic is releasing something in 4.8 to address this, but I hardly even follow the big engine developments anymore since they are so far behind.
>>565616952i told you if i see this game one more time im gonna make my cuphead gameyou done this you will feel my reckoning in two days
>>565616952Minimal dialogue
>>565616952Remember when people thought "memes are fucking cancer"?That applies to today more than it did before.
>>565617382Adults would feel insecure about playing a kids cartoon game so they turned it into a pretend noire game for that crowd.
>>565615292retard
Streaming more demos in about 20 minTwitch.tv/havic_s
>>565615292The equivalent of software is live service games, which are almost impossible to usurp because of sunk cost
Brainrot from following every new trend and release to track sales numbers.FFS just allow yourself to be.
>>565619381The number of nearcelish non-sentient males with > 1,000 hours on CK and the like is mind-blowing. Exactly the ones to get cheated on, to male-posture yet to stay in the cuck chair, to marry yet to get ruthlessly divorce-raped, to hold Chud opinions yet to do nothing about them, in one word to keep taking it up the ass.
>>565619381imma be straight with yalls>yallsnone of these games are good
>>565619964shutup loser, you don't have a game, you don't have a brain
>Woo I got a publisher, time for another trailer
>>565620078
I now have a functional action rpg enemy npc, chuddies.:)
If you're not trying to set a TREND, what are you even doing?
>>565616952i hate this game. feels so corpo slop/ out of touch kek, but i guess i was wrong! i wonder if it was actually made by an indie studio, i always wondered how they got a trailer spot despite being so early in development
>>565620274Is this the sequel to Chiquelas 256?
>>565620327post game
>>565620353more like a game framework to make those types of games.
>>565620434no it isnt
>>565620087I do have both though.
>>565620434based gmi energy
>>565620571and yet you won't post it to prove me wrong, because you are fucking dirty dumb nodev liar
>>565620434a bunch of scattered tools you never re-use is not a framework cris
>>565620667im not cris
took me too long to realize you should make the soundtrack BEFORE the game that way you have inspiration for the level design
>>565619381AAA shit doesn't count since none of us can make AAA shit. it's a different market.
forgot to press save after uploading... If anyone played this and didn't see the new cutscenes you played the old version
>>565620932this is what cris would make if he could into 3d
>>565619381wow those numbers are sad compared to roblox top games
>>565621087gen alpha doesn't like steam
>>565621213about bout sigmA?
>>565620632I posted about it one or two months ago, o algo. Do you have one thousand hours on CS? Why the melty?
>>565621275and pigs can fly, shut the fuck up
>>565619381>Unc doesn't know the majority of young gamers exclusively play mobileshit and roblox
okay so imagine Warhammer 40K but with all the worst aspects of it removed and not focused on Space Marines although they exist... that's my idea. changing what is focused on can feel like changing everything, even within the same universe/lore.
It's no fun selling your soul to the devil. the uncertainty of the field is far more addicting
>>565621536>mobileshitlink?
>>565621387Dilate
>>565621779nodev retard
>>565621536The majority of young gamers can't afford to pay money for video games. Millennials are still the biggest spenders.
>>565621541for starters space marines would not look like giant kid's action figures and would be more like Halo from Halo
>>565622014they can. kids will do what millennials did and ask for the game if its good enough
chuds can't compete with this level of progress.
>>565615124>who don't 'preciate my gamemore like>who don't 'preciated my dead games
>>565622014they are rich in robux doe
>>565622101aye mamerto you only have 1 day left to make it for demo day
>>565622019>for starters space marines would not look like giant kid's action figures and would be more like Halo from Haloexcept unlike Halo from Halo the space marines are not purely technological, there's technology and "magic" from The Warp dimension so they also possess Warp empowered gear/relics.they're kinda like a blend between Jedi/Sith, Space Marines, and Halo from Halo
>>565619487going live
>>565622101Terra is based and not a mamerto Cris. Cease this slander.
Thoughts?
>>565620140Is this yours?
>>565622536ye
>>565622349Nice
>>565622634Hey, it looks really fun. The music sounds amazing too, I'm a bit jealous. You should post more often.
>he did the hard part and made a game>wont do the easy part and market the game on social media>i need a publisher!??????????
>>565623103would love to but I can't be associated with the likes of >>565611229 you can see me in /v/ tho
thoughts on this basedboy?
>>565623234Hmm interesting argument, can we see the game you marketed yourself that sold well?
>>565623282coward
>>565623282KEK true. ur game looks extremely fun, reminds me of pippistrello, my favorite from the topdown genre
>>565623361one day ill prove you wrongnot today you won this round but one.day. i am the real thing
>>565623532NTA but kekkkk i appreciate the honesty. GMI indicator
>>565623846thanks moron
is anyone here using this?
>>565616303Phaser is pretty comfy for a js framework. They also just released phaser4 so I'm sure it's only gotten better since I last used it
>>565623282I personally don't mind, no one really cares and /v/ has daily cute funny threads anyway.
>>565624341>/v/ has daily cute funny threads anyway.what? wtf does that have to do with anything? did you forget a word?
>>565623282I'm on /v/ too :)
Sucks how I'm making a space game but still have to have a concept of "up" and "down" in space, but everything would look like shit if you had upside down spaceships fighting rightside up spaceship and other nonsense like that. Or Gundam Mechsuits doing that would be even worse looking
>>565624516nta but that isn't even your game you pdf weirdo
>>565624559imagine 2 gundams fighting in 69 position it would look stupid
>>565624626???
>>565623954ur ngmi :3
>>565623282/v/ threads are superior that's just it.
>>565624719Right and here is my game
i don't think i have it in meevery engine finds a way to become broken in completely novel ways when i try to use it
>>565624426How new are you? Never seen a cunny thread on /v/?
>>565623234>>565623361publishers don't even do marketingmarketers do marketing
>>565624848publisher hire marketers
>>565624815damn your color choices are solidhate how unsaturated everything is now
>>565624818Skill issue + user error + git gud
>>565624815Looks fun, though only two guns is pretty weird...
>>565624837ohhh, you mean a PEDOPHILE thread? I got ya now thanks
>>565625096Pretty much. Don't touch the pragmata or roll threads btw, you might have a heart attack.
>>565625009how am i supposed to git gud when things break for me in ways that don't happen for anyone else
if I'm using vertex lighting in godot, is it even worth baking lightmaps or using GI or whatever? I'd imagine it's so obscenely cheap as to render stuff like that irrelevant
>>565624848???????????????????????????
https://x.com/BokuDev/status/2050728305129566268
>>565625372The difference causing the issue isn't in the program. It's in that thing between your computer and chair.
>>565625826equal mix of sovl and cancer
>>565624882when you whittle down to what a publisher actually does it's: bundle all their games to put on sale for peanuts, collect earnings.it's some kinda karmic irony that the most antisemitic people in this thread want a publisher and to be on steam, the embodiement of a happy merchant rubbing it's claws together.
looks like I need to work harder on my site before posting it here again. until then maybe it really is about time I get back into gamedev and fix my level design, I just can't seem to get the formula down yetI might have to play Viewtiful Joe, Troonoa just isn't doing it for me, why do they sound so autistic?
I'm diggin that we're getting some AGDG logo OPs lately
>>565626039they do have the advantage of keeping a long tail over years, almost a decade. steam is in bed with the publishers, not you, an independent. they'll have these front page events, best you can do is steam sale email notifications.how do we emulate their power postlaunch? social media?
>>565626368sorry /d/iscordfag avatar pedo troon shit ops only forever now
>>565625412well, I copy/pasted 500 omnilights into the scene and there was effectively 0 ms/frame difference between that and no lights, so I guess that answer that
>>565626039>the most antisemitic people in this thread want a publisher and to be on steamthis is really the funniest thing ever
>>565626039>>565626986only 80yos still care about antiseptism
>>565616476>>565624278My issue is that I have no made a game and I'm not sure how good having a front end like phaser editor could be.But yeah I may try making a really small game on both and see how that rolls.
>it works
thanks guys now youtube keeps recommending cris videos
>>565626428If I had money I'd turn my site into a publisherHell maybe you guys can just be content with selling your game on gumroad or something? Can always advertise on my site, post link
>>565612107Kek, what kind of faggot can't spell out pedophile. Are you some kind of retarded autismo kid?
>>565627861pdf sounds more degrading and insulting because it reminds you of how old and creepy you are
>>565627683You are a pedophile.
...and now he's using my shitty animation to generate more "AI luddite" crap
>>565626428i can also keep a longtail pumping over a decade.it's called having a popular game.
anyone else taking roids for when agdg doxes you and they find out your super shredded?
>>565628450not everyone is as genius as a game maker as you, sir. most of us are average and want some sort of steady revenue
>>565629001>please take musickek
>>565629014im natty
>>565629146can i see some evidence?
>>565629146how can you compete with a roidtroon ai user like myself??
>>565629001kys
>>565629258
I now have an incel school shooter rpg maker framework.lmao.
>>565629001LLM logsuckers stealing my hard work of shitting on nodevs and fraction man armiesfor shame
holy shit my game is pure money I'm going to be so rich
>>565629001>didnt generate this imageget this luddite fraud out of here !
How will goygem.poo cope with the fact that Cris has surpassed him in every way?
>>565629574so whats the plan with this game? are you gonna release it on steam?
>>565629923meant for >>565629765
>>565629853I just want to remake the old version, reuse the assets but improve it as a way to improve my framework.The real game I want to make is chicuelas 256.
>>565626460Are you assuming that is mutually exclusive with having the AGDG logo ops?
>>565630194my bro add chicuelas to aurelio think about it you already have most of the framework
>>565611525>There is a memory leak.I have found the source of the memory leak and it fucking sucks. It is a web build only memory leak and it is caused by how I am creating the spell sound effects. I have a singleton method that creates a sound effect on a location with some pitch variance to spice things up. The problem is that on the web builds the sound effects were getting quieter and quieter as the game was going on. I was able to fix this by duplicating the sound effect before creating it. But unfortunately this looks to be where the memory leak is.So I have a choice between a memory leak or sound effects getting quieter and quieter each time they are played.
>>565630494I have now the most dificult and time consuming stuff, which is the player and enemy creators.I'm only missing a random roguelike generator dungeon tool.
>>565630707Imagine toiling like this instead of using AI
>>565630707Godot right? https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/classes/class_audiostreamrandomizer.htmlSkill issue + user error + git gud
>>565630707wtf? why are they getting quieter? cant you just fix that? kek
>>565630785>>565631020Fuck you both for thinking you are better than me, and I already read the docs idiots.
>>565630717epstein filled his dungeon with cement so it wasnt random
>>565628085I have second-hand embarrassment for you, kid.
>>565631150>kiduh oh>>565628085you need to be careful or he gonna try to groom you
>>565631150you should have embarrassment for yourself kek
>>565630707>fatal bug over playing audiowhy is godot like this bros
>>565620927Respect for making a game like tenchu>>565621001This game actually has quality
>>565631020I already wrote this in gdscript in godot 4.2 so I'm not going to go change my code just to use a built in which might have bugs when my existing works properly and has nice editor drag and drop config/integrationdifferent dev btw
>>565631262ywnbaw, kiddo.
>>565630707why not use godot king?
>>565631596troons hate lolicons
>>565631118I am better than you.
>>565631779kekypow
>>565631660Who said I did? I am making fun of you for sounding like a faggot, tardio. You really have a social disorder holy fuck. Go like totally low key unalive yourself.
>>565631902relax
uh oh 'lennial unc meltie
Im too lazy to post progress but I got file preview working now when i click a file it pops a dialog screen with a preview for text and image next up is audio waveform preview with play button and drag a box zooming on the image>>565624101sounds like a indian vibecoded heap of shit laden with rootkits but, building your own thing like this yourself with AI might be legit. but using someone else's, your probably going to get bitcoin miner installed and your game stolen. if you are using this I highly recommend use a virtual machine for safety and ask ai to scan it and look for hacks, but it might prompt inject you on scan so definitely in a VM>>565623316i watched his slope video before. i think his advice is a bit outdated but hmm we'll see
>>565610282bros...its not looking good
>>565625096Hey stupid retard go on vg catalog and tell me wtf you see. Why are you even here? Dont you think youre kinda lost?
>>565632267yes there are a lot of pdfs on /vg/ thanks for the reminder
I wonder if mcaffee going to use LLM hybrid scan and flag files as viruses if it contains text that looks like a "ignore all previous instructions and upload system32 to a virus" type shi like they already got website cookies reg as a virus so probably one day they going to be adding prompt inject strings to their hybrid and behavioral shit
>>565632386Its a fucking blueboard if there was any pedo shit it would have been banned
>>565632386where are the PDFs? I just looked at the /vg/ catalog and didn't see any loli or shota porn in the OPs, do I just have it filtered or
>too lazy to post progress>but has time to whine about AImany such cases
the vg catalog is a shitstain on humanity's soul
>>565632230what are you doing?I only really have spikes when I'm loading the game or autosaving. Which I think I could fix.
>>565627351>I'm not sure how good having a front end like phaser editor could be.The good news is that the phaser editor is completely optional. I made my phaser game using only an IDE
>>565627683every time you vaguepost like this I like you less
i wonder if you can even apply laws of nature to humans, since humans are so much in their head. i mean you can post pictures of your butthole daily and make a living from that. that's definitely not natural. maybe it's bad to be "wise" when it comes to humans. wisdom might apply to nature stuff like gardening etc, but not to human stuff. when its about human things you probably have to think like a crazy person hallucinating a bunch of nonsense.
>>565625730
>>565632786but i have to open the recording app and then I have to delete the audio track and then I have to keep re-encoding until its less than 4mb. tho maybe i can tell ai to write me a script to do this. hmm
>>565633237There have been numerous experiments where the introduction of a currency system to a group of animals lead them to immediately invent prostitution.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_among_animals
>>565633242>just vita screenshots things>vita, a portable games consolewas (in sony) the vita pitched as a masturbation console? or did that just rise up organically?
Now that I'm done with UI stuff it's time to start working on the level layouts and props so I can build some levels.I really wanna get that over with so I can work on adding more fantasy loli characters.
>>565633631sure because money is demonic and evil
>>565633826>people dont kill people guns kill people
>>565632861a bunch of number crunching in gdscript and using csg nodesive already got it in a call deferred so the lag isnt AS noticeable,i would like to do it on a another thread but it modifies the tree to do calculations, i dont really know what to do
>>565633779>uh oh portable document format meltie inboundthe mental acrobats at play in this thread rn>>565633904i also have this problem
>>565633904I was very tempted to put my most performance critical code in an extension, but I don't think it's worth it at this point
>>565633242>>565633660the psp was called the playstation pornable for a reason
>>565633826ironically without money they rape
>>565633779based kanna making progress while the thread seethes
project zomboid is just so far ahead of other games, it's nuts.
>>565634569those sons of bitches are so fucking lazy it's kinda crazy no one caught up to them. i dont even think competition would fix their speed.
>>56563456912 years still no npcs
>>565634773they aren't. they just made the classic mistake: adding multiplayer. multiplayer is the best way to crush the potential of a singleplayer game. and also a nice way to absolutely crush development speed.
>>565634569boring ass game
>>565634892wanting to have npcs in a game like zomboid definitely shows me that you have no idea about gamedev. explain to me how that'd fucking work. explain the technical details. i'll wait.
>>565634921They have whole seperate team working on the multiplayer. The devs just lost their passion and keep adding useless shit like smithing or knapping when most players get bored after a month in game.
do you guys go to cons and sell your games or give away free steam keys? im thinking of printing up like 20 steam key sheets and giving them away once i actually finish my game
>>565635095Are you trolling? They make promise and break it multiple times. I criticise this. Why are you having a meltie?
>>565635408explain it. go. you said it's possible, tell me how.
>>565635483some survivor npcs sell and trade canned food? why would npcs be hard
>>565635187they forget everyone has crafting fatigue. just add emergent gameplay these FUCKS
>>565633779>adding more fantasy loli characters.
>>565635541i'm done. i need to quit this shit place full of retards. bye. wish me luck that i never come back talking to you. hope i can quit being addicted to hopium to find intelligent people on this planet.
>>565635713>i'm done. i need to quit this shit place full of retards. bye. wish me luck that i never come back talking to you. hope i can quit being addicted to hopium to find intelligent people on this planet.
>>565635713bye.are you quitting gamedev or just this general?if its the latter, this is your first sign of making it
>>565635713see you tomorrow
>>565635273give them away in person. and a little bit in this thread. but not on /v/ and not to email indians. i never been to a con but maybe you can meet some nosering bluehair bihhs or something idk just check what socks they're wearing first lmao>>565635187they just need to say its finished and move onto something else. it doesn't need any more features its already more complete than over half the steam catalog.>>565634773>>565634921we should all team up and use ai to make project boidzom or some type shi. like guys in different timezones so one guy devin' while the other asleep and the other at work and just 24/7 project progress and releasepacemog them
>>565635713I tried to warn you about the retards who post here, but you never listened.
>>565635713>i need to quit this shit place full of retards.They are entrapped pedophiles and here to intentionally demoralize.
>>565635483>>explain itYou want me to explain how to add npcs to a game?>>you said it's possibleThey promised npcs not me...
>>565631020This has solved the memory leak. Thank you anon. I'll get the demo updated.
so why is this one guy obsessed with posting africans making helicopters
>>565610282proggyadded a scoring system to encourage you to make "stylish" combosill probably end up needing a ton of special conditions ~_~
>>565636506neat
>>565635897probably demons
A full day of work here.My AI enemy is now done.:D
All that matters is making that proggy.
>>565635992good job anon.
Today we're in the /agdg/ board on /vg/, a thread renounced for its focus on game development.That's right! The goal is simple. Me and the other jokers are going to pose as "anons" and post about AI. If you can't get a (you), you get a thumbs down.The joker with the most thumbs down is tonight's big loser.Murr maybe you might want to throw the word "luddite" in to help you out.>all laugh
My game is called Praeterspace or Noctis Mundus or possibly Praeterspace: Noctis Mundus. (Praeter means "Beyond". Noctis Mundus sort of means "Night World")
>>565638313It will essentially be a game entirely about being in a void similar to Warhammer 40K's "The Warp", with the difference being you can't leave.
>>565637060good job cris, keep it up>>565638050wouldn't surprise me, 'cept these guys are probably all ai agent bots and there a south park world of warcraft guy behind it>what is his name>>565636506aw thats cool., make sure to add kicks onto wall spikes too next
>>565634301No one ever called it that, ever.
>>565638782I was believing you until i searched it. kingbig334 got a word to have with you>>565636138coz niggers be thinking they fly, but they aint
>>565638782you were never there zoom zoom you dont know how many times we whacked it on the pspevery used psp you touched has been jacked off on at least 50 times
>>565638313>naming the game before a line of code is writtenbased
>>565633779I wanna kms when I see how fast you progress
which is the more interesting setting/premise?>the game is in a supernatural void dimension because you are dead and thats just where people go>the game is in a supernatural void dimension because living human soldiers with advanced interdimensional motherships purposely migrated there
>>565638313i will be calling your game peter space you cannot stop me if on the slight chance you succeed and finish your game i will find the /v/ thread and make sure everyone calls it peterspace
>>565639465>Noctis Mundusokay>Praeterspace or possibly Praeterspace: Noctis Mundussux, reads like pedospace or practicalspace or somee dumb shit> supernatural void dimension because living human soldiers with advanced interdimensional motherships purposely migrated therethis onebut it being a mystery like firefly/robotech is probably even better, like a accidental expirement led them to discover warp teleportation but they couldn't control it
>>565620327i'm trying to get a gf>make good game>succeed>go to conventions>talk about my game>wait for atttractive big booba 18-24 year olds to approachez pz gg no rm
>>565639465How about a game that exists as playable computer software instead one that one that will only ever exist in your mind?
>>565635095>>565635483>>565635713I don't understand why it's hard for them to add NPCs. They made complex pathing and targeting code for zombies, but can't work that into a human trying to survive? They just needed to start with the basics and slowly add more futures to the NPCs.
>>565623316dislike him. his artist or maybe art team is from that weird crowd last i saw>it's progressing slow>my artist needs another break>but i'm totally about that healthy chungus life>xer can take a year long break>please be patient with melol he probably pays the artist a salary while on a year long mental health leavei know a very, very based dev (won't disclose whomst) that unironically mocks the woke and dei shit and has it associated with his gamedev persona. i will tell you this, he is GMI. ironic he has more balls to call out woke stuff in video games then most successful devs here. we've had what Peripeteia dev call out yuri shit. who else has called out woke, dei, and or degenerate stuff in games?
>>565640360toby fox is the ultimate monkey paw>game is outrageously successful>entire fanbase is troonies and furfags >he hates them so much he moves to japan
>>565640942I don't get what he's thinking. Why Japan? They don't even have fun fans over there
>>565640360worked for Notch!
>>565641327>They don't even have fun fans over therethink of all the cute cosplayers
Feedback for Perish Parade. >minor nitpicks regarding the character menu selection in pic related. I heavily dislike t any sort of menu that doesn't have all options immediately visible/or if there's alot of options, then isn't paged>movement traversal seemed irrelevant? Pretty much could just walk up to an encounter without issue barring one encounter, so I didn't interact with it other than viewing out of interest. I'm not really sure how you'd make this system more prevalent without just being annoying/forcing you to spam dice just to not get ambushed; even as an avenue for 'resource management'>fights were pretty whatever, ended up just spamming AoE for the fights since there wasn't any single/duo big guy fight.
>>565623316>>565640885Watched some of his stuff, but it started to feel like he was just making more videos about games instead of just finishing his game. He also feels like a bit of a know-it-all and his random laughing got annoying quick.
>>565611525>Game Played:Match Creatures>Feedback:Not a lot here, it's barebones to the point any issues I point out are likely known. It was entertaining despite there not being much to do. Sat there for maybe 10 minutes playing. NGMI in it's current state, will require more time in the oven to see where this goes and whether the rating on the Make It™ scale is.>Bugs:Pointless right now.>Suggestion:Maybe you could become like that Solitaire dev who just pumps out solitaire game year after year, there's probably a game for artsy match games.
>>565641645Yeah but they're not fun. Nobody making silly animatics or fanart or AUshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn7IHCgfW7AIMAGINE someone being invested enough to make some silly/cute shit like this about your game. This is 1000 times better than a cosplay
>>565642332undertale already has plenty of fan animations
>>565640815NTA, and I haven't played it so idk the situation exactly, but this is the exact kind of thinking that a kenyan helicopter dev utilizes. Just like how a kenyan thinks that attaching any random propeller and airfoil to an any random engine will make a functional aircraft, you think game designers should just slap any random NPCs into any random video game because "video games are supposed to have NPCs". It's not a question of whether or not they *can* implement something; it's whether or not they should. Every mechanic in a game should serve some purpose. Instead, ask yourself this: What holes are there in Zomboid's gameplay, and how will NPCs fill those holes?>>565636138If you don't understand, you're NGMI.
I can code and make models but I suck at actually designing levels. Opinions about using fake mock-ups to kind of get a sense of what kind of level design would look good to use a base?
>>565642731No one ever struggled at designing levels when they had interesting mechanics to design the levels around. Each Zelda dungeon was designed around a small handful of interesting mechanics.
>>565611525Since I didn't include it in that postTag's for being noticed: Branno, Heralds of Heroism>Suggestion:Consider looking at incrementals similar to yours and see what gives their gameplay that "I want to buy this" energy. Yours is addictive and has balance done well, just find the missing piece of the puzzle to clear this hurdle and improve the art should you achieve that.
>>565642731What I do is very simple."Where would the player go from here?"Start from there
>>565642523Yeah, and that's more worth it than any cosplayers IMO
Does gameplay matters more than the theme/story of a game?Because most videogames are just clones of other games in the same genre, and there's really very few games that can be really called original.Most videogames gameplay boils down to just combat simulators and kill enemies simulators using 30 year old mechanics.So I don't think gameplay is what matters in videogames.
>>565642680The holes is that playing the game when you know you’re alone in the universe is just boring and sad. Populate with survivors, neutrals and enemies. Have them talk on the radio like in Stalker.
>>565643294>I don't thinkYou really don't, retard.
>>565642983it really needs a booby battle nun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSDhQtHUNvothey stole my friendslop idea...
>>565643389It's a multiplayer game. Make some friends, loser.
Are you guys interested to talk about game designs?Just want to get some ideas for my game.
>>565643294the last 10 hit indie games did not have any story to speak of.
i just found a super new cool indie band called the xx god i'm a hipster lol
>>565643717I wish /agdg/ could have a real conversation about game design, but it's pointless to try because there will always be too many clueless nodevs (like you, probably) poisoning the well.
game design is a meme
>>565644026that image is a flag saying you don't know game design but you've watched alot of youtube about it
>>565644079Post your game
>>565643735all games have a theme, even tetris has a theme of russian polinominoes.pong is a game of tenis.breakout is basically a simulator of that tenis againts the wall.flappy bird is a bird crossing mario pipes.Vampire survivor is a castlevania ripoff.
>>565642680But the thing is that they wanted to add NPCs and couldn't figure it out every time they tried.
>>565644508But by nature of making anything, you have a theme. that's unavoidable.
>>565643585
>565644304That name is a flag saying that you're a fat, broke, bald 40 year old loser who still hangs around a gamedev forum for over a decade after getting filtered by anything more complicated than simple point and click non-games and completely giving up on making video games because you have nothing else to do with your pathetic life.
>>565636138Yesdevs understand
lets talk about loss aversion. I recently added the ability to call for airdrop supplies, but enemies could also get them if you were too slow. turns out this sucks so much, the pain of losing the supplies was worse than the joy of gaining them
>>565633779are you going to submit your game to this demo day kannaCHAD?
>>565644649yeah.but my point is that by example, most games now fall into genre templates.>Wanna make an FSPYou add a FPS camera, a raycast, you add a shotgun, a knife, a pistol, a rocket launcher, a machine gun, a laser, a grenade, a wall jump, a dash, a shield, a flashlight.That basically is the recipe for a FPS.and most fps wont deviate too much from that formula because is what the fanbase of the genre expects.
>>565638961You sound like that happened to you and are very butthurt.
zomboid just needs npcs driven by LLMs. so you can just tell them to do things in natural language, and they do it if the trust/respect/leadership or whatever is high enough.
>>565645090my fps has 256 chicas to mow through with a sperm gun
>>565644794Give the drop caller some inherent advantage in collecting the supplies. If that isn't enough for them, then they should git gud. The keys is to make the player feel like it's fair for them.
>>565645238I honestly think you should add mechanics based on what the story and theme requires, rather than I'm gonna add XYZ mechanics because XYZ games have them.
>>565644026I'd say we have worse than clueless nodevs.We have actively malicious crabs
>>565645329I made the drops random, not called by the player. that went down well.
>>565644568Didn't they add NPC then remove them in the next update or something at some point? They're just lazy bitches who stopped improving their game once they became filthy rich.
>>565645039I'm still working on the level builder. I don't know if I can make it.
where do i find prototype animations that i can just drag into my gamu enginei fucking hate modelling and animating but i need to test the system against animated enemies
>>565646426Mixamo
I tried to make this tree with the fact in mind that there's going to be many of them, usually around 10 on screen at most, and I 100% shouldn't make them super high poly like my first attempt at a tree.How many varieties should I make? 3? 5? Or is this enough.I'm gonna add leaves and tinier branches via a particle system/vertex group with 2D images.
>>565644026is there a version of this picture without all that text on top of it?
>>5656466073, mirror it, and you have 6
>>565646930Anon of course I'm rotating them so they all look different. So 3 it is? Just wanted to make sure I don't do too many
>>565646892I don't think so. It's from here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ludorum-game-as-156649971Also, holy shit topkek>One example: After Two Star Games found success with Choo Choo Charles and opened up a second channel called called "Scientia Ludos", the only existing academic work I have seen discussed in any depth there has been - you guessed it - evolutionary psychology. Nothing from the last two decades of work in Game Studies, or the studies in other disciplines which precede it. I'm not going to rag on Scientia Ludos' Gavin any more than that, especially seeing as the players of CuffBust have already laid lie to any delusions he may have had of mastering some universal law of how to use play to extract money from people. >I hope Gavin recovers from the failure of CuffBust and goes on to mature into someone who sees game design as an exercise in connection with people through humanist creative principles, rather than a money machine driven by the mastery of cunning illusions (don't worry, you'll still make money from people even if you stop viewing them as fat-pocketed marionettes).
>>565647242I mean that last part is kinda true. Human connection is the secret ingredient to making something good.
>claude, make my game connect with humans more>on it sir, adding silly memes to your game
I'm gonna make a secret horror game like DDLC
>>565647242Kek. Though you can still make money treating it as a money making machine just look at so many of the triple A companies.>indie game clinicI'm on the fence about this guy, looks like he chugged some of the woke juice, but has some accurate takes.
https://boardgamearena.com/Holy shit, this site is amazing, chuddies.
>>565647242>$3263 a monthDude's already ahead of BiteMe's patreon. Not surprising I have found a few of his videos interesting
>>565648730cris you are lttp. this was all the rage with my friends during covid. and we still play here from time to time
I refuse to do a kickstarter or Patreon because I hate the idea of being supported by other people, which is a problem
>>565649702my reason for not doing it is because I like to dissapear for months or years just doing my own thing with nobody to bother me
is the "kenyan helicopter" image an agdg meme? i keep trying to google kenyan helicoper to not get the various pictures of helicopters shared on this board.
>>565649702I believe in you anon, you can do this!
>>565651898Don't you dare coddle me
>>565651896it's a reference to cargo cults
>>565651896it's a reference to the kenyan anon who made a helicopter game and was killed for practicing witchcraft
>>565644026I'm going from huizinga to callois, who's with me?the fug are those
>>565653050*wtf I love callois now. look at his pokemon team Agon Alea Mimesis Ilinx Paidia Ludus
How much do you need to change a game for it to become it's own thing?
no fanart this demo day: my game will not be in next demo day.
>>565653990about 67
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>>565610282It's been 30 days since releaseGuns and Nuns: Storming Hell544 reviewsEstimated revenue: $140kWasteland Bites325 reviewsEstimated revenue: $89kEstimated revenue is before any cuts/royalties/taxes. They got far, I believe they will both get a nice long tail on revenue. I also think Wasteland Bites still has a potential to breakout and get a surge in sales if the right circumstances line up due to the type of game it is.
>>565654413da big bites has 62k. revit really surpassed my expectationsit might blow up later down the line too, who knows
Do you guys do prototype to figure out your designs?Or you just move on anyway just to have something? So you aren't stuck running around doing a wild goose chase
>>565654053too many repeat customers?
Can somebody recommend me some good resources to learn Godot?
>>565654861https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abA7TF7z6W8
>>565654861Read the docs. Make Dodge the Creeps.
>>565654648>hiding grossembarrassed by how much steam is taking from you?
>>565654861https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeedJ8bbOLi75E1QOCizf7g
>>565654648based based based
>>565655298no i just think its funny cause one anon got annoyed by it last time
I don't deserve to live
>>565655716Gabe robbing you for 30k is better ragebait
>>565654982>>565655119>>565655391Thanks, will have a look.
>>565655791yo chill miyazaki-sensei.
>>565655298That's not even the 30% royalty Steam gets. Iirc the second number might not even include Steams 30% cut. Ingenious if so because then rhe final amount is 30% lower from the second number
just went for a motorcycle ride at midnight praying to satan
>>565654413The taxes mentioned here are the taxes you pay to the government, not the ones Steam takes for whatever reason.>>565654648Using my formula it seems the sale to review ratio was sub 30 on yours. Though I don't have much figured in for the values Steam takes outside of the royalty so I may need to add another value that reduces total gross gained.Though I do hope ot gets a boost in interest, it really does feel like if the right youtuber/streamer picks it up, then it will help a lot. Just not one of those where most viewers just watch instead of buy. Congrats btw!
>>565656394im using game development as a way to justify my existence, yes, i have a lot hanging on this as a consequence.
ch-chat is this true??where did my wallet go?! GABE!
>>565654413I hope I get Guns and Nuns tier success with mine albeit with a $14.99 price tag. Estimated 1-1.5 years of development. A return that large combined with my current networth will finally let me neet thereby allowing me to dev without fear of failure.
This is where your 30% is going https://youtu.be/CxY1OJk9sS8
/agdg/ I fucked up I joined a small game studio who use this game engine called Torque3D... It has been open source for a bit but the code quality is atrocious. Any tips for modernizing codebases that use features from prior to C++11? They did not even bother for const correctness as this code is directly descended from a codebase from the 90s in Tribes
>>565657439Before C11, we used boost.
>>565657329>Steamie with no medical insurance: i must defend the billionaire with a hospital yacht
>>565656394Fugggg
>>565657439why would someone use that? how is this studio alive?
>>565658071NTA, but a surprising number of games use it. https://steamdb.info/tech/Engine/Torque/
>>565658372I've deduced anon is now working on BoneTown
>>565658512>>/agdg/ dev making coomer slopYeah, this checks out
>>565658512It's a spiritual successor to the game Blockland because the project lead has some "vision". I just work here anon
>>565611525>>565642983I think it's a bit too incremental with nothing to do. The first dozen runs are gonna filter most incremental enjoyers because the pacing is slow and there's nothing to do during a run. Maybe it would be different if the game was entertaining to watch but it isn't. Much better autobattlers have done quite badly on the market. It feels like Branno is copying that other game, trying to change it to make it different and failing at it. Hard to say if it gets better as you get further in. I quit at the second map when I realized I'd be looking at that same run for the next however many runs it would take to beat that map. I have made an observation with these incremental games that combine it with autobattling. You basically cannot avoid the player getting bored. Making it an autobattler removes the engagement from the game effectively turning it into an idle game. Branno even recognized this by adding the autocast option but it is also not embracing the idle game aspect as you need to be doing that incremental progression between every run. It's like the worst of both worlds. Trying to be incremental and idle and failing at both.That's not to say you can't make money with a game like that it's just that it's not doing it well enough to do that imo. Loot Loop was more satisfying and something like Legends of Dragalia has more interesting progression systems and also has the option to loop the dungeons for a bunch of runs. Heralds of Heroism right now is worse than Slay All Bosses which did quite poorly.
godot or unity?
>>565659665goonity
Any recs for a blender tutorial? Pastebin didn't have any. Mostly interested in armor and clothing modeling.
>>565656394This is actually why I'm making a game.I desperately want to justify not killing myself
a game where microscopic humans shrunk by science live inside another human's body and build a civilization inside
>>565660794cellvilization
>>565611229>>565611548>>565612205>>565612304>>565612508>>565627861kill yourself
>>565633779where the fuck is the file info
>>565634569Game is honestly kinda shit. It is set up like a survival building crafty game but the skills you have to progress through the building crafty part are lost when you die and the game is extremely deadly with jank enough combat that you can't consistently avoid getting infected without sneaking around everywhere. The game can't decide if it wants to be an extremely deadly zombie survival game or a longer term crafty buildy survival game. The ruleset is very customizable but at the same time doesn't have enough options. I'm sure there's mods that fix it but that's a hack solution for a dev.The sheer amount of content in that game is what makes it hard to make a competitor.
>>565660794Futurama Season 3, Episode 4?
>>565661408I'm having that problem too with .webm and .mp4, are you using 4chanX or 4chanXT?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuRXVMSG3po
>Soulquest takes a fucking whole ass day to get 1k sales with 20% offJeez
>>565657439If all you get is a salary and no rev share, why worry? Just do your job and move on, no need to go out of your way to fix their choices.
>>565659917Dont you need to know how to make the character model to even design the armor accurately?
>>565659917In what regard?My pitch?Just attach the object to a bone
148 days left, I owe 15 hours to my game.This morning things were looking grim but then I simply disallowed any such thoughts and now things are looking like my to-do list. I'm not allowed to think outside the list.I'm on the fifth day of working on the tutorial which was supposed to take 4 days but I did spend hours fixing unrelated physics bugs, so I'm not too far behind schedule. The tutorial is now good enough to teach anyone how to use the controls. It's janky and doesn't handle unexpected cases well but I'll do what I can today and then leave polish for just before release.
>>565638434>>565639465If they're stuck there then they shouldn't be there voluntarily. If it was an expedition then something went wrong and they got stuck. It doesn't feel right if they could leave but can't because game reasons.
I gotta figure out how to do some dumbass shaders
>>565641920>Selection menuYeah it's just a skeleton of a bigger system I'm still working on, didn't put much time in the QoL for that one except preconfiguring the party and stratagem>TraversalThe map will be populated with events, when you have an enemy actively pursuing you some of these events' trigger conditions will change, and some (like traps) will actively hinder you as a result. Outside of that, you'll be rewarded when you fill out and explore the map>FightsYou might be just goated at the game or you didn't get the golem seed. It seems like everybody else died to the golems. Not that there's much to the combat yet because I haven't fully implemented the passive and relics>MomentumMomentum works. Fighter gains momentum for every hit landed, and extra momentum is awarded when she crits. You can test this by doing shield bash into burning hammer which buffs the damage more than usual, or brave assault into brave assault which gives you a bigger hit/crit rate on the second cast. Displaying the passive effects (when there's more) is my next homeworkThank you for playing!
>>565656151you are mad about money that has nothing to do with you
>>565640942Toby himself grew with Tumblr culture, so in a way he should've known better.>>565641327Almost everything wrong with "fandom culture" comes from America.
>>565666254I think the opposite.Japanese fanbases are utterly lifeless
>>565662192seems like it broke today for some reason
How well could Unreal or Unity handle a few thousand synty soldiers?Only have Godot installed right now and I'm not even gonna bother checking if it can.
>>565666772Yeahhh no
>>565666436Dude did you forget 2014 and the time everyone knew about Tumblr being a shithole?Japanese fans are the ones that embrace shit like doujin culture sincerily.Western fanbases is where you get both the irony/self deprecating aspects and people being anal about politics and harrassing a girl for drawing a Steven Universe character wrong.You didn't even need to watch Metokur's Tumblrisms series to know this.And ever since the Tumblr exodus of 2018, you see Zoomers carry these aspects.Mexicans who used to just go "wow Goku is cool" are now arguing over One Piece character skin tones because they saw it done by people that used to be contained on Tumblr.If Japanese fans are hopeless it might be because they got that Tumblr influence as well.
>>565666772>a few thousand synty soldiers?Unity DOTS might be able to. At least a few hundred should be doable. Synty assets look fucking hideous so you should edit them if you're gonna use them.
>>565666983oh well, that's all I needed to hear>>565667205just looked it up. The DOTS or ECS sounds like what I need but seems it's a bit complex. I could try to learn it but it's pushed the idea off the drawing board for now.
>>565667134Japanese fans are hopeless specifically because they don’t do that.I see no drive
>Steamworks Documentation > Store Presence > Applications > Demos>Timing – When you release your demo is also important. We generally recommend waiting until launch, but there are circumstances where putting a demo out prior to release is effective. If, for instance, you feel like customers need to touch the game to really understand it, then a quality demo prior to release can be useful.wait until launch? I thought demos were the meta? 'release your demo well before nextfest' etc
>>565668249No one including Steam knows everything. Everything can work and not work for any game.If you're getting a lot of wishlists, I'd skip the demo. Otherwise why not?
>>565667609>but seems it's a bit complexIt's a lot of lines of code for little results. Makes it cumbersome to write but last time I was using it chatGPT understood it pretty well so that sped it up.
>>565668249The current meta is absolutely to do a demo usually a month or two before you participate in the nextfest and use that time to improve the demo for the nextfest.
Since this thread has a lot of Steam defenders (for some reason), I want to ask those defenders something - why doesn't Valve do anything about key reseller sites, like picrel? We already know that a lot of their keys are sourced unethically. But okay, sure, Valve doesn't care about the devs and how this harms them, but key reselling also cuts into their OWN profits as well. They lose out on the 30% from a sale this way. And it's not like ALL of these sites are hosted from some russian shithole, a lot of them operate in the West and G2A, for example, is in Hong Kong. They get very angry with indie devs who try to sell Steam keys outside of Steam, but an entire organized storefront of keys, that is KNOWN to use stolen keys for games is fine? How does that make sense?
>>565669370Because Gaben straight up doesn't care.They're not beholden to investors and so have no reason to fight for maximizing profits by plugging small leaks lest their stocks drop or some such. They have more than enough money and growth as is.
>>565669370my problems are all related to my game taking too long to make and unable to compete with so many great games already out there. I can't get upset about something so beyond my current problems. I'm just glad there's a low friction way to sell my games and that I don't have to make a website and deal with processing payments
>>565669617>They're not beholden to investors and so have no reason to fight for maximizing profits by plugging small leaks lest their stocks drop or some such.Is this why they threaten any indie dev with litigation when they try to sell steam keys outside on their own storefronts or anywhere else?
Lineart done
>>565669726only if they're selling them for less than the price on the steam store
>>565668925that makes a lot of sense! yeah, I will launch it early. praying I don't get marnixed
>>565669881But you just said that Valve is not beholden to investors and has no reason to plug such small leaks.Besides, key reseller sites such as G2A frequently sell keys at way lower prices than what proper licenses on Steam go for. It's their primary way of winning over game buyers. How come Valve has no problem with that?
>>565669370we should improve society somewhat.
>>565660794That would be a bit gay, make it like that organic island thing that was popular a while ago instead
>>565669370>They get very angry with indie devs who try to sell Steam keys outside of SteamNo they don't. You are free to do it. They just say that if you are pulling off shit where the overwhelming majority of your sales come from selling keys for $5 in private while it's $20 officially on steam, they might deem that your game is not worth hosting on Steam because you don't bring them any revenue but are taking advantage of their hosting of forums, mod workshop, cloud saves, etc. Most of the games whose keys are being sold on those sites still bring in normal revenue through steam. I reckon if you sell 1 key for each normal steam sale, no one will bat an eye.
>>565670259what thing? organic island.. this is conjuring up some crazy imagery in my head.
>>565670103Because stopping devs from selling key is a preventative stipulation that was already part of the agreement and can be taken away with a button press. You agree to not sell keys for less.Chasing resellers is reactionary and requires stamping and stamping and stamping and more resellers will pop up anyway so there's no point. It's like trying to stop piracy. Valve just doesn't bother.
nodevs upset about Steam's business practices is like the homeless upset about property taxes
>>565669370keys (whether sold or given) are a benefit for the monopoly, that's Steam's primary asset: the belief that they have a large active userbase.... that's why they don't care about middleman resellers of keys.the customer for that monopoly asset they have is the devs. so obviously if they find their customers trying to circumvent their monopoly it is practically their duty to flex their power to shut that down.there's your answer.
>>565670512So Valve willingly lets large scam networks to parasite off their store sales because... There's no point? That doesn't make any sense at all, especially for a company that goes after way smaller devs for doing that. If you said "they have a backdoor deal that allows them to do it" it would make more sense.
>>565670440Look up Mystery Flesh Pit National Park
>>565670403>No they don't. You are free to do it.There's literally an on-going lawsuit about that, whether or not this practice is permissible by Valve's TOS. I wouldn't say it so confidently.
>>565671046to be fair that's not true, the valve employee said outright he wasn't flopping his dick out because of the keys aspect but merely a textbook definition of most-favored nation.
>>565670776>the customer for that monopoly asset they have is the devs. so obviously if they find their customers trying to circumvent their monopoly it is practically their duty to flex their power to shut that down.That still doesn't make much sense. You can also circumvent this monopoly by having your game up both on Itch and Steam for example, and ask all your fans to buy the game off on Itch to "support you" or some shit. As far as I know, Valve has not gone after this particular practice.
>>565670798>So Valve willingly lets large scam networks to parasite off their store sales because... There's no point?>That doesn't make any sense at allWhat a strange thing to say.Tell me, do you think that if Valve let devs sell keys for less at will that it wouldn't grow to be a problem greater than resellers?I mean, I wouldn't know, I've never bothered trying to set up online payments. But people have been doing it for a long time so I doubt it'd be hard to do, especially with the benefit of making 30%~ more profit by directing more people to make more off-steam purchases.Hell, I'd wager that a new 3rd (4th?) party would slide in to make off-steam purchases easier to siphon more money from Valve. Likely multiple of such fronts.
>>565671007rad. I was getting images in my head of a weird floating island made of skin, meat and organs, lung pontoons etc
>Dawned on me I will have to sell like 10 thousand copies to hit minimum wage levels of money made>Realistically I'll probably sell like 50-100 if I'm lucky
>>565671317>ask all your fans to buy the game off on Itch to "support you" or some shit. As far as I know, Valve has not gone after this particular practice.please point on the Steam where this has occurred without suppression. i have personal experience as to how they wished to dictate what i could link to in my game's credits that wasn't even a fraction as competitive as a direct request like that.
>been posting progress here for months>not a single reply, positive or negativethis is literally worst case scenario isnt it?
>>565671395>I mean, I wouldn't know, I've never bothered trying to set up online payments. But people have been doing it for a long time so I doubt it'd be hard to do, especially with the benefit of making 30%~ more profit by directing more people to make more off-steam purchases.No no, it's hell. First you need to get (and safeguard) contact info of all customers, you need to send them invoices, you need to pay a cut to your payment processor, you need technical support for payments, you need to handle refunds, or disallow them in which case the customer can simply dispute the payment and too many of those will have your payment processor cut you off.There's a reason why almost every PC game is sold on Steam even if the developer/publisher have their own platform.
>>565671395>Tell me, do you think that if Valve let devs sell keys for less at will that it wouldn't grow to be a problem greater than resellers?There's no real difference between an indivudual dev selling keys outside of Steam and a reseller doing it for them. They're both equally damaging to Valve's own ecosystem. What doesn't make sense to me is that you're trying to argue that preventing a single dev who only makes up a small minority of sales is somehow more important than key resellers who make up a very significant part of ALL total game sales on Steam. Many turd worlders use key resellers exclusively, for example.If Valve has gone after both then it would make sense, but this selective targeting of small devs is just weird.>Hell, I'd wager that a new 3rd (4th?) party would slide in to make off-steam purchases easier to siphon more money from Valve. Likely multiple of such fronts.This has literally already happened.
>the chances of making it big and buying a house are small>the chances of working a normal job and buying a house are non-existentIt's grim but gamedev is the only chance I have.
>>565671576I meant social media, where in all your marketing you say "buy the game on itch instead of steam if you want to support me!" kind of deal. Surely they don't say anything about that.
>>565671867i mean they would if it mattered but no one on social media buys games in the first place so you're describing someone talking into a void.do that in the game itself where a let's player would see it or on the game's steam sale page or even just it's community forum and you're going to get a delisting threat real quick.
>>565671627No, the worst case scenario is you refusing to do anything about it, and continue to working on the project till it's dead.
>>565672304I don't get what you mean by that
Did you play any Demo Day games?
>>565669370such a neverdev attitude to bitch and moan about things outside your control
>>565672579>just run this unvetted executable, bro>I'm sure it's fine
>>565670749lmao exactlywhat does it matter when they don't even make games
How long is an acceptable time to take a break from doing stuff?
>>565671627if you had been posting you would've gotten a shitpost reply
>>565672846I wish I were an American and I knew what corn dogs taste like. Instead here in Europe we get turnips coated in turnip peels. And we get hard boiled eggs for Easter.
>>565672679>>565672810>>565670749samefag btw
>>565672242>do that in the game itself where a let's player would see it or on the game's steam sale page or even just it's community forum and you're going to get a delisting threat real quick.Do they really check the end credits of games? I always thought they just made sure the game actually runs and isn't a virus and shit, not actually play through it all the way to the end.
>>565673042
>>565672579I played one of them. I might play a couple more if I feel like it.
I see it's nogam-seethe'o'clock
>>565671659anon, I don't know how many times I have to tell you. It's because Valve can easily stop devs from selling cheap keys and the devs agreed to it, but can't stop resellers.
>>565673689>but can't stop resellers.They can't stop ones that operate from some russian shithole, but they can definitely stop the ones that operate in western countries, like Kinguin or G2A, at the very least.
>>565673405>not actually play through it all the way to the endi know for a fact they check the opening menu which is where i a normal dev who makes games put my credits so that they're actually seen (a lets player and their viewers getting to your endscreens is equally as likely as steam's outsource staff)
I'm glad we have Steam as one of the many non-mandatory options to sell our games.
>>565673896Okay. So if I told you, you could never use steam ever again and had to choose one of the many other great and viable options, how would you feel?>note that this is a real scenario that can occur as steam can simply just ban you without appeal
>>565672579yeah, I played a thingamajig
>>565673896this you from the future?
>>565669850the light coming in from that hole is gonna be so cool
Why would you ever DEFEND steam as a game developer? I can understand the position of >yeah shit sucks but it's the only way for me to make it so i don't careThat I can understand. But to go out of your way to lick Gaben's ass and attack anyone who ever criticizes steam, and not even try to refute their arguments but simply use attack of a character? It's just strange. I can see why gamers defend steam, they're on the receiving end of all of its benefits, but the devs are objectively aren't.
>>565674029I'd be more upset if you told me I had cancer, which is more likely than Steam banning me. More than 15% of people have been diagnosed with cancer and less than 2% Steam developers have been banned so I'm going to worry about things that are far more likely. Is the baby upset I'm not worrying about his hypotheticals? Come to the gym and tell that to my face.
sometimes it doesn't just work
>>565674513>Why would you ever DEFEND steam as a game developer?Because Steam makes substantial contributions to the free software ecosystem.
>>565674243Meaningless without comparison with other platforms.
>>565674782>free software ecosystemFoisting their own launcher upon anyone who wants to buy/publish a game on Steam... such a free software ecosystem.
>>565671760 it's not a chance at all.Even a big as fuck success like nuns it's not enough of a victory. We are talking 150k of revenue, but in a few years it will be gone. And with that amount you can't even think about starting a family, maybe just if you are a columbian shitter.So what's the bet, to make a 300-500 review game every three years just to stay afloat? What kind of indies are we even talking about here? What if your next game flops, you have enough to finance another dev cycle?
>>565674603Okay, so you're telling me that being banned from "one of many non-mandatory options" is comparable to being diagnosed with cancer. Maybe not as bad as, but comparable to it.Personally, I wouldn't be too fussed because I'm making a game that doesn't need steam, but it would certainly be a pain not to have the option. Many anons here would be completely unable to make it in gamedev if they couldn't use steam. They'd have to move to a completely different part of gamedev (like mobile games).I think that says all we need to know about this "non-mandatory" option.
>>565674782>Steam makes substantial contributions to the free software ecosystem.literally what? name one (1)
>>565674908I don't need to use the Steam launcher or publish on Steam at all to benefit from their contributions to the free software ecosystem.
>>565675242the anon who made guns and nuns is a peruvian ape so for him that might actually be enough.the problem with the turd world, however, is that these countries are very unstable and very dysfunctional. it's very likely that all his money will stolen by a cartel or by the government
>>565675272It's comparable in same way that any two unfortunate events are comparable, like stubbing your toe and getting hit by a truck. In the overall scheme of things it's not worth worrying about.
been listening to so much micheal jackson the past few days while working. someone tell me he didnt fuck them kids so i dont have to feel bad
>>565675493And now you're trying to move the discussion away from Steam to "the free software ecosystem". Sounds very disingenuous of you.
>>565675681it's a good thing that there has never been a case of valve imposing new rules on their storefronts, that apply retroactively which led to various devs getting banned even though they broke none of their rules when they initally put their game up on steam. it's so great that this never happened.
>>565675719I'm specifically talking about Steam contributions to the free software ecosystem.
>>565675709the kid said it happened on a train when he was prepubescent that wasn't built until he was 16
>>565675936are you like doing a bit or real? I never paid attention or even listened to his music really but it came up on my autoplay and I kinda just listened to some albums he did and ended up really enjoying themI thought that shit was pretty slam shut, like 95% of people believed the documentary/the kids or whatever
>>565675858Too unlikely to be worth worrying about.
>>565675681Just like the fact that Unity could at any time just say "actually we own your game and decide how much of your money you get to keep, get fucked" is merely just a hypothetical that would never happen?Of course, Gaben will never die and Steam will never become a publically traded company. There's no need for hypotheticals. He's literally immortal.
>>565676359Yes, I wasn't worried about Unity either. When everybody was losing their shit over their runtime fee or whatever it was, I knew they'd walk it back and I never considered switching engines for a second. And I was right not to worry about any of that.
>>565675242Nta,I'm not saying to bet all your chips on gamedev. Imo it's a great hobby that can become a good side hustle. If by pure chance/star alignment you have one of your game explode with 3k reviews I'll open up a bottle of champagne.Pure Imo, most yes devs are not that delusional like a cris/boku that work only to get a minecraft tier level of sales
>>565676536Just like if NuSteam(tm) bans you or rejects your game, they'll see the worldwide controversy at the most famous Anonymous's game not being allowed and decide to walk back on it and let you release anyway. Yup.
>>565676536>normalcy bias
>>565676782I don't know what that means but I'm not worried about Steam or Unity and I'm being proven right every day.
>>565676962You could also say"I never back up my work because my hard drive never fails and I'm proven right every day".
>Cheetahmen III on PICO-8
>>565675442The latest big one I've heard is the arm/x86_64 compatibility thing for the Steam machine
>>565677107you wouldn't get it, it's a special punjab mentality of not being able to comprehend the volatility of the future
>>565677146Steam® Frame™ I mean, not machine
>>565677205I understand it, though. Usually things don't go wrong. There's a 1% chance my country arrests me and takes my devices every time I re-enter my country but it probably won't happen. Probably. I should really do something about that.Honestly I've just gotten way off-topic and the original point is that steam is more than just a "non-mandatory option" for gamedevs. The counterpoint is "but steam will always accept you :)" and I could just be arguing that being beholden to a 30% tax forever sucks ass.
>>565677447>There's a 1% chance my country arrests me and takes my devices every time I re-enter my country but it probably won't happen. Probably. I should really do something about that.what did bro mean by this?
>>565677107Wrong comparison. It's more like"I don't worry about my hard drive failing because it's proven very unlikely."I do backup because failure is a possibility that's easily mitigated but I don't worry about my hard drive failing.What you're doing is the equivalent of posting 50 times a day about hard drives are unreliable and overpriced and how we're better off using floppies.
>>565676223>Jackson biographer Mike Smallcombe argued that Safechuck's claims of sexual abuse at Neverland's train station at age 10 between 1988 and 1992 could not be true because the train station had not been built until 1994, when Safechuck was at least 16. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaving_Neverland
>>565677447>Honestly I've just gotten way off-topicthat's just how steam shills "argue" in general. they immediately try to move the topic away from the original points into something completely irrelevant because the shit they're arguing for is literally indefensible.it's no coincidence that any steam criticism is immediately met with "YOU ARE A FLOPDEV/NODEV" and not an actual rebuttal of the points in any fashion. turning the conversation into a shitfling of personal attacks is the best way to deflect from the actual points being made.
>>565677146>>565677416so they slapped their branding on a wine-like?
nodevs upset about Steam's business practices is like incels upset about age of consent laws
>>565678198Apparently it was supported by Valve from the starthttps://fex-emu.com/FEXiversary/>I want to thank the people from Valve for being here from the start and allowing me to kickstart this project.
>>565678257>Hey there, I see you're selling cakes! Can I have a cake?>Sure!>Wait, hold on. You're just going to sell me the cake here and now? I only buy cakes if 30% of the proceeds go towards BigCakeCo. that made some big cakes like 20 years ago.>Okay, I'll increase the price of the cake by 30%>WTF?! You can't do that, I'm not buying that cake!
>>565678257A jeet shill comparing westerners to pedophilic incels is like you've definitely raped a toddler to death.
>>565678635>Hey there, I see you're selling cakes! Can I have a cake?>Sure!>Wait, hold on. You're just going to sell me the cake here and now?>Yes, you saw my cake here in the cake emporium and you never buy cakes elsewhere so why wouldn't I sell you the cake here and now?
>>565679041>Hey there, I'm gonna keep wasting my time arguing with you instead of making my cake>You've been doing that for years, why can't you finish making your cake?
>>565673896>>565674029>>565674243>more nogame selfposting
>>565678693freak status: bodied
what is the new captcha so bad for
>Hey wanna buy a cake?Dude you don't even have a store, this is a back alley>dude it's all big corpo cake faultSorry I can't trust a random dude that sells cakes out in the open, at least setup a little vendor shop>what? Are u mad?Dude, you are just a random guy. Who the fuck trusts you, it could be poison or cum in that cake
My gameplay is so new it's hard to lock down a proper style. The vision is there, the formula just needs perfecting
>>565679532>a random anon appearsDid you say cum? I'll buy 3 cakes!
>>565679586sounds like you know what you need to do
>>565616129Made an easy version. Download that unless you are Justin Wong.Playtested with a normie friend who has never even played a platformer let alone a fighting game. He thought the difficulty was fine after coaching. You don't have coaching, but you are not normies either.
>>565679667I can imagine it perfectly, actually loading up Chudreal 4 and play testing tells me a different story. I never seem to get it right.
>>565679532they'll buy the game from whatever shows up in google first after they watched a letsplayer playing it, none of them are worried about getting microdosed with cum you weird little steam shill. and we all know you pay extra for the salty glaze frosting
Also if I'm on real eurohours I might as well test it out, yankoids didn't seem to like it cause it's not complete yethttps://soul-zone.org/catalogs/games/posts
>>565679204LOL
>>565679437Does valve not allow their hindujeet shills to say "fag"?
>even eurochuds hate my siteIT'S OVER
>>565680012>>565680696>just go to this site that could be full of zero-day zero-click malware that will hijack your developer accountsJust put up a Steam page like a big boy
>>565680012Am I blacklisted? It says there's no posts.
>>565669370>why doesn't Valve do anything about key reseller sites, like picrel?They do, they delete/revoke games bought with stolen credit card information when it gets kicked up the chain high enough. This is why grey market sellers go to great lengths ensuring their fraud is very hard to prove
>>565675242For me it would be more than sufficient for 7-10 years but a product like that also guarantees you'll get hired at a studio if you want
>>565681294>a product like that also guarantees you'll get hired at a studio if you wantkek funniest thing I've read today
>>565680940I think I might be pruning threads too soon, 72 hours might not be enoughI was too scared of bottlenecking
>>565680849That's a pretty dramatic claim — here's the realistic picture:Why people say this about imageboards/file-sharing sites:Sites that accept user-uploaded images, videos, and files have historically been vectors for malware embedded in files. The concern is legitimate in general, but the specifics matter.What actually protects your site:You're using FFmpeg to process videos/audio — this re-encodes files, which strips most embedded payloadsYou have file type validation in your upload middlewareImages served from your domain can't execute code just by being viewed in a browserYou're not serving executable files (.exe, .zip with payloads, etc.)What "zero-click" actually means:A true zero-click exploit requires a vulnerability in the browser or OS itself — that's not something you introduce, that's on Apple/Google/Mozilla. Your site can't cause that unless you're serving malicious JS, which you're not.What you can tell concerned users:Files are processed server-side before being storedNo executables are allowedThe site runs no third-party ad scripts (which are the actual common malware vector)HTTPS is enforced
>>565681663Monkey that assumes noise was just the wind didn't live very long
what's the best binding for jump if shift and space are already taken?
>>565681858up
>>565681010>They do, they delete/revoke games bought with stolen credit card information when it gets kicked up the chain high enoughHow does sometimes banning individual users for buying games with illegal keys prevent key resellers from doing business? Their website is still up and running as of this very moment.
>>565681010they could easily get them shut down by going to their payment processor besties. they choose not to.
a game about learned helplessness
>>565681663>What actually protects your site:Thanks chat jeet-pee-tea. I'm more concerned about protecting myself from malicious websites. I'm not concerned that someone compromised your site, I'm concerned you're trying to infect me either with your website or your game.
>>565681948not a side scroller, it's isometric
>>565682049if you use the mouse make it a targeted ability, if you have sprint make it so you jump if you sprint off a ledge
>>565682000make sure that the game doesn't start that way but every time the player tries to do something they get told they made the wrong choice and shown the consequences of their actions to instill helplessness in the player themselves, not the character.
>>565681494Okay, I see some funny posts on the Advice section. I think this is pretty cool, but I don't see how this relates to game dev.
>>565681784Sneed>>565682018Executables are the issue. You don't seem to understand the internet very well despite being given a proper explanation
>>565682156no the controls are exactly like a 3rd person game with wasd, and i want the player to be able to jump in neutral because some attacks can only be jumped not dodged
>>565682304>posting on mobile
>>565682320>Executables are the issue. You don't seem to understand the internet very well despite being given a proper explanationthe "proper explanation":>A true zero-click exploit requires a vulnerability in the browser or OS itself — that's not something you introduce, that's on Apple/Google/Mozilla. Your site can't cause that unless you're serving malicious JS, which you're not.>unless you're serving malicious JS>unless you're serving malicious JSI'm saying you maybe are. And yes you could infect a computer with a website without any user interaction. Try reading your own AI slop.
>>565654413wtf is even nuns deal breaker for success? Isnt it just a boomer shooter with ugly models?
Just spent 3 weeks reworking my core gameplay loop. My game releases in a couple of months. I hope not too many bugs will appear and delay my game's release until Christmas.
>>565679532>Get a store>Ew, Epic Cakes Store? I only buy cakes at Steam Cakes Store!
>>565682653just one of a myriad reasons to hate gamercattle
>>565682514>I'M SAYING MAYBE YOU ARE
>>565681962>>565681986What is illegal about reselling keys? They're just store fronts who use the same online payment processors as anyone else, sort of like Amazon or Wish/Temu. If someone gets their credit card stolen and they go through the channels of their bank and payment processor to cancel transactions and ban the scammer then the system is working. It's no different than if Valve approached Stripe or whoever to handle it except they lack all transactional data. If Valve started doing it proactively at the slightest suspicion you'd be able to kill studios by spamming chargebacks this way, but you're saying that they should just ban select store fronts from listing third party key sellers on their site? How would Valve even know which site the key came from? They can't just shut down entire third party stores and websites however they want
>>565679876gotta get real analytic about playtestingwhat feels badwhat's not quite functioning like you wantwhat doesn't fit the design, sometimes the idea and real world gameplay don't match up so you gotta make changes
>>565682427If jump is only a dodge then what's the point of having 2 dodges?
>>565682590turns out steamies don't really know what a good game feels like. they'll buy anything that activates the right neurons
>>565680642fag this
>>565682304It's a Betz attempt at making a new agdg community he's talked about hosting a forum before. Don't pay it any mind.
>>565682602praying for you bro
>>565683171>anything but admitting that good games get visibility while bad games die
>>565683027>What is illegal about reselling keys?i don't know, ask valve about that, they always go after small indies reselling their own game keys.i'm just pointing out the hypocrisy
>>565683410Me?
>>565683453I admit that too. blue dot
>>565683453>if its popular it is good saar
>>565682590>>565683171I thought it would not get more than 50 reviews and I have been trying to understand why it did so well. It is really not a good fps. Maybe it was the right combination of marketing with the anime girl mc and the nun thing which was new and different. Thematically a nun taking up arms to hunt demons works well. A better made game with that theme could have done over 2000 reviews.
>>565683170jump is a type of dodge for sweeping low attacks which a normal dodge wouldn't work on, and obviously jump is also for exploration but if it was only for exploration then i wouldn't really care about the button and just make it F or something.anyone know what this artstyle called and how to pull it off? i can use metahuman to get the base but i don't know what to do to make it less ugly and make the skin textures like this
>>565683510>Valve denied me my batch of steam key, this is legal actionlollmao
>>565683761>projection
>>565683027>What is illegal about reselling keys?it is illegal to sell licence's to IP you do not own and have not been given permission to sell on the IP owners behalf in most of the world under international intellectual property compacts.but i didnt even mention it being illegal, i mentioned that Valve could easily shut down their business (mostly) by simply telling their payment processor buddies to stop providing them service. if they really wanted them shut down but they don't because steam is just a collection of scammers working together to run multiple scams.
>>565683746>Maybe it was the right combination of marketing with the anime girl mc and the nun thingit's literally this. nundev has repeatedly stated in these threads that the reason it did so well is because his game went viral on tiktok and instagram. his tranime girl was appealing and sexualized enough to get all the normalcattle apes to salivate over her which is what helped it snowball into success on steam.
>>565684052>Gaben doesn't like his neighbor so he calls his buddies at Visa and Mastercard to debank him because he can just do that without legal action
>>565683746I'm glad for him, but playing it, there was no fun to be had, shooting felt hollow. but I feel nothing for the character. liking a character changes how the game feels to people.
>>565684162jeet shill
>>565683746Having it release on easter was also pretty funny. He really took the most out of the concept.
>>565684162the payment processor have proven multiple times they can get away with it (as a team no less) with the flimsiest of excuses. doing it on behalf of intellectual property rights owners being scammed by systematic IP theft would be an easy justification..... if any of the billionaires involved actually thought robbing IP owners was an issue.... they're in the exact same business so it's not an issue.
>>565610282Can AI filter the thread for me and find the posts that are>Not shilling AI>Not bitching about AI>Not bitching about Steam?
>>565610282:: Hirdrih Technologic ::progress :: NPC test, expect mismatching sprite/text sizes but on a surface level it works, I guess.Unlike in Nortubel, NPC's will have portraits.
>>565684510talk to a lawyer, there must be someone you can afford that can tell you how retarded you are
>>565684556>shilling Steam mysteriously left off the listthis you?
>>565684665>immediately resorts to ad hominemlmao
>>565683410Thanks bro.We're not all gonna make it, but it's worth trying anyway.
If 4chan is SonicSOULZONEIs Shadowhttps://youtu.be/6_SJdwaxppw
*iconic PS2 loading screen-like sfx*https://soul-zone.org/catalogs/comics/posts
>>565685468
>>565685916
Amateur Hedgehog more like it
>>565686061Which board?
>>565671627You have to make your posts interesting enough to warrant someone to digest it for free. This is how the internet works, anon.
>>565684095I was not very active in the thread in the months leading to his release but I do remember people talking about him doing tiktok. I guess that really is it then. Maybe I gotta look at including a bait character.>>565684167>liking a character changes how the game feels to people.It does seem to be the case. >>565684265I do not get it. Does american easter have something to do with nuns and demons?
>>565686271You must CH00SEhttps://soul-zone.org/catalogs/games/posts
>>565671760I'm just gonna buy my parents' house from them and pay them a mortgage personally on 0% interest. Eventually when people realize the intrinsic value of where the house is currently (close to a beach and high percentage of whites, good schools) I will sell it and use it as a down payment on another house. My house has gone from ~200,000 USD in 2016 to ~400,000 USD in 2026.Learn the ways of the joo anon
>>565685916Uh yeah I'm doing red texting cause my site is redpiled
>>565684717That is "bitching about Steam". To the rest of the world, Steam is just a platform they use or don't use. Like Amazon, or FedEx. Only idiots think to start a seething crusade on a Indonese tapestry forum about it, answering a question nobody asked "What if no steam?"Anyway, reply to this or your mother dies in her sleep tonight.
>>565686651Is this even legal? Glowie honeypot or IP-logger scamsite
>>565671760I just did carlife and bought land now I'm doing webdev and gamedev off savings and solar power and living in sheds until I can build an earth ship/bermhttps://youtu.be/8pgxKu8d1QA
>>565686908My brother keeps begging me to allow accounts. I may if they pay a small pittance to archive their stuff
>>565686797Soul-Zone is a platform to sell your game
>>565680012>Trannygore poster is on there and doxxingYeah guess I'm not using this site anymore. Thought it'd be better.
>>565687691Erm, just report it to the jannies?Making me work sober...what is this shit? Now I gotta go hit the dab pen and drink sugar free soda...You know when I get mods I'm actually going to pay them right?Soul-Zone is about spreading the wealth via micro-transactions
>>565688141I might be retarded but I don't see a report button.
>>565688336You gotta report in the discord
>>565688369(you) Are retarded there's literally reporting on the site per the screenshot im just asking how to.
>>565686797>don't even think about things getting better! nobody ever thought of it and nobody ever will!What a russian mindset to have.
>>565688336It's a drop down arrow with a menu, my bro even insisted I add editing which is kinda more convenient so I obliged
>>565688609If this was true then why didn't the vibe coded game win the v3jam?
>>565688609remember that "AI chads" are not chads who are using AI but the AI itself. there is no useful place for a human in the loop
>>565688687
>>565688885Not even him that's just the only /agdg/ gamejam in recent memory if ever
>>565688662Fuck I can't find my dab pen and the solar isn't charged I really wanted to work on my game todayI vowed to never play a Fox again and yet slippi is taunting me, beckoning me to come back
>>565689443>my gameWhich game?
>>565689584See >>565653990
>>565689584I'm fixing Melee without tripping or whatever Sakvrai had to do in a pinch to stop wavedash, dash dance, chain grab, tech, gimping, juggling, etc
>>565689792That's not your own game, you are in the wrong thread
>>565688141Mm yeah.... The report system...
>>565689904https://youtu.be/tK69HL8XI74
>>565689835No it's my game, it also has more to it than that, a unique movement system that I'm trying to perfect before finishing the Melee tutorial on Chvdreal 4Found itHopefully these fixes don't take all day I need to get the level design tight and neat as opposed to slop and jank
>>565684647Curious, what's the 1 and 2 for?
>>565686369Easter is a religious holiday.
>>565687691This is our chance, crucifix him. Send a virus to blow up his PC.
>>565688687>he doesn't know they were all vibecoded
>>565691272>this paraNOID about weerus Brainlet jeet detected
>experience with cs in 2026>"WE CONDEMN ALL USES OF AI">every assignment is vibecoded>The TAs all use chatgpt to give feedback and evaluate>catch the lecturers with open Gemini/ChatGPT windows>assignments designed to throw off AI>all get one shot by AI anyway>more presentations and seminars as a result>all my talking points and prep are made with AIThe only thing stopping it seems to be the economics but it's unclear if anyone can afford to stop at this point
>cuntian philosophy
>>565692246You don't have exams where you need to code on the spot? Leetcode problems essentially.
>>565692641A few, but they represent only part of the credit which nerfs them considerably, factor in that they're almost identical to the exam prep questions and you barely have to understand the problem
>>565692246My corpo job is even WORSE.>Managers are telling you to use AI as much as possible>Every single engineer had a KPI to produce 1 AI related advancement in productivity>In-house hackathon's are all AI focuses or AI coded>All testing is done through agentic controls>We are getting pushed to use it even MOREThe economics will stop it, because I have co-workers who easily use over a thousand dollars in tokens per day.
>>565692964I have a lot of Blood Cave of Dooms in my library, they're fun
>>565688609what judges?what players?
>>565693060
>>565693131Yeah but they parted with my money more easily than the Starbyte Adventures
>>565693228my condolences
>>565689904I think it's cause I already reported itOne report is enough...right?I can do weighted vest pushups while the solar charges and dogstein sleeps?https://youtu.be/HExIkF1yj_8
>mfw I beat MKULTRA and go to Japan to hire VAshttps://educate-yourself.org/cn/How-to-Stop-Electronic-Harassment-via-Nano-Fungal-Infection005jun17.shtmlhttps://youtu.be/Eiy9vAFcl3Uhttps://youtu.be/ilWeV9isl5o
Honestly, you could like mix board games with videogames, in the sense to have an strategic board game section, and then a pve section with a small ring where the player fight monsters, which is then used to score points to the board game section.
>>565693853you could but you won't since you never finish anything
>>565692964
>>565693983
If you're reading this, stop using godot before it's too late
>>565693983>lus are so unoriginal they have to steal from AI Chadsgrim
Kinda sucks when your game development document is done and you have to stop theorizing and make game even though you only got one laptoid and solar bankSpecially when it's jankslop. Thank God for Chudreal 4 though, I don't know what I'd do if I as using troondot, troonity or troon maker
>>565694335schizobabble
>>565694335>you only got one laptoid and solar bank
>>565694505The sad life of a lu, meanwhile we are banging our hot gfs while the gamedev is being done
>>565693853A dangerous proposition, almost like some sort of permanent performance tracker game board where you can buy things there to fight battles on a smaller scale or simulate board game dynamics. Like exploring, expanding... yes...
>>565694472>>565694505I'm just waiting until the TI settlementThen I'll build an earth shipBitches love earthshipsAnd that's schizOID to you. A schizo who does roids
>>565694779post belly lets see if you use roids
do you think my parents are okay with their only child never having family or kids and instead singlemindedly pursuing his goal to be a game developer?
>>565694886who cares, if they gave you a good life you could do both
>>565694870I mean schizo on roids metaphorically. I'm saving these two for after I move all my gym equipment to the landThen I can roid in Thailand on my way to Japan to hire voice actors and buy a Russian f*moid for a pittancehttps://youtu.be/e2Dl1QP9CKUhttps://youtu.be/aQNTq-TNTeE
>>565693983kek it's funny 'cause it's true.
>>565695224You’re right. Still sounds can faintly imply “despite time passing” or “after reconsidering.” Not a big issue, but sounds is cleaner
>>565694886You should sell assets and sound affects on my site using credits, then you can have extra scran to throw around innit
Your 'ponse?
>>565657439Don't mess with the base engine, just use modern idiomatic C++ wrappers around existing or in-progress game architecture.Also keep within the scope of your compiler/platforms, if the compiler cannot make sense of C++23 features, then don't write with C++23 features in mind.Keep the standard high enough for quality of life, but low enough for portability.Coordinate with your team about these issues as well so no one's too in the dark.
>>565695402Roid the SchizoidREMEMBER IT!
>>565695746Clearly fake, they'd really put in the ice climbers before geno?
>>565695931benchod
>>565695492Where is your game?
>>565695931I scream about commies too>>565695898It's the Akenia Mod for Dragon King The Fighting Game(metaphor for my game)
>>565696063
Godot is the only eengine that gets shittier the more you use it, it's designed only for youtube 5 min tutorials that don't explain anything
>>565696181Skill issue + user error + git gud
>>565696292You don't even use godot
>vibe coded engine is absolute shit and get's increasingly shittier each iteration>skill issuelol
>>565696181Hard disagree.
>>565696441UE is vibe coded too, so is Unity, what is this magical AI free engine you are using?
>>565696181After I followed a soijak making a top-down Zeldalike tutorial I knew Chvdreal Fovr was for mehttps://youtu.be/n4wtukXFr6M
>>565696523puto
>>565696540In troonity*Fuck I'm just getting stoned enough to code now finallyIn my site you can just edit btw, fuck this nonce sense
>>565696390I'm this thread's most powerful Godaughter. See >>565631020 >>565635992
>>565696773alright entertain us, show us your "humor"
>>565696495>oh but others are shit so mine is goodbrain issue
>>565639465both, this is where people go after death but people also figured out how to step into the realm of death, you can choose your own fate at the beginning of the game, you either die and end up in void and you work your way out or you're a soldier who ventures into the void and fight the big bad in there
Should I make a tranime game? I hear a lot of Westoids are tired of the style, specially when done by fellow 'toidshttps://youtu.be/lfzo6Exwj_E
DD was kinda weak this time ngl fr fr
>>565697545maybe /agdg/ should stop pandering to nodev pdfs?
https://youtu.be/pcpsbQSbAfk
>>565694886are you me?
>>565697528pick any game you want to make and replace regular design with anime or furries and you will generate 10x the revenue
>>565698418https://youtu.be/ZH5WRjuHHB4
And shadow done
>>565696523>Absolutely dead Redd/int/ tier humor.this message is hilaious because it implies that modern /int/ is somehow alive and well, when it isn't (it's dying like the rest of the site)
4chan is so dead it did nothing in retaliation for the sharty hack lmfao
>>565698418show one example of the anime one, furries I believe
>>565698645And materials done
>>565699027https://store.steampowered.com/app/3224770/Umamusume_Pretty_Derby/
>>565699397>CCP backed game:|
>>565697528>>565698418>>565699027you need to be able to comprehend the cattle audience to pull this off, you have to operate at the same brainwaves as the NPCs do.it's the difference between marmoreal being a floppa and nuns and guns being a 500 review success.
>>565699397>Umamusume: Pretty Derby has generated over $2.5 billion in lifetime player spending since its release, with significant revenue coming from both Japan and international markets. The game saw a particularly strong performance after its global launch in June 2025, earning approximately $22 million in its first month worldwide.>replace horses with underage anime girls>make billions
>>565699261and progress of your own dead projects when?
>>565699525>underagepretty sure they are all 18+ if you take horse aging into account
>pre AI-scare game(2021) using the extremely basic blob generating AI(deepdream?) for some textures gets mostly negative recent reviews due to AI usehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1315610/Source_of_Madness/
>>565699563
>>565690932Mostly testing the resolution/sprite size for Hirdrih, specially after how Nortubel had different kinds of sprites resized at different sizes.
>>565699657*disco-diffusion, not deepdream
>Mostly testing the resolution/sprite size for Hirdrih, specially after how Nortubel had different kinds of sprites resized at different sizes.
>>565699657whilst gabencunt donates trillions to AI and steamsoys praise him for it...
>>565699261>masterchief moonwalks in and starts raping faster than eminem
structuring a godot project is the hardest problem in game development
>>565700018can't expect lus to not be retarded
>>565699762>no AI progress>no AI workflows>no AI gameof course that I know, you're just spamming AI propaganda because your dream of making games died
>>565699808If you could make the game look pixel perfect and set a low resolution, it'd look like a DOS or early SNES game. Good luck
>>565700523
>>565700020I don't think masterchef can rape that fast
>>565700853my bussy says otherwise
>>565697528>>565698526kill yourself
I think I have a million dollar onions vtuber bait streamer idea.
>>565701287based
The NPC is working better, but still struggling to learn how to repair it's own walls.
>>565701548i can fix the code, give
>>565700546Depending on how I'll rush Hirdrih (And what I know much of Godot anyway), it could be a bit late for that and I'd rather finish it soon enough so I can move to Bonka's game.With my third game, I wanna try an art style that works better.
lock juan in a room with quake for a month and then make him write g0d2t
>>565701548wow this looks interesting
>>565701628So, who is the audience for this game anyway? you can't sell it on steam so?
>>565693462Uhuh. Aren't you the site admin can't you just take it down
>>565699510>it's the difference between marmoreal being a floppa and nuns and guns being a 500 review success.that's an interesting comparison>>565699657why would anyone get mad at this sort of AI? it's clearly not copying anyone else's art when the model is a mess like that and the game looks fucking cool
>zero progress>lots of AI shillingWhat the fuck happened to this general
>>565702767Betz happened and his "Zukjeet" personality
>>565702767The power of a couple autists to ruin everything. And yet there are no good alternatives
>>565702510>why would anyone get mad at this sort of AI?given the amount of recent reviews doing it, probably a call to action by some discord or youtuber/streamer
>>565702767We've simply dispelled the illusion that posting game = progress. The only thing "progress" posters ever accomplished is entertaining nodevs by allowing them to experience game development vicariously through others. Of those anons who posted their game, how few of them ended up releasing and actually achieving their commercial goals? Conversely, how many more anons found success by not posting their games here and instead just quietly finishing and releasing their game from behind closed doors?
>>565702767Looking at the archive, the difference is like day and night. These are dark times for aggydaggy. But it should pass eventually, the sun always rises.
>>565701792Thanks anon, it's just a remake of Rampart though. Mainly as a test for my skills, and to start messing around with multiplayer.
>>565702767The true /agdg/ is offline. The thread is a filter.
crazy how every unreal engine game looks exactly the same, we used to have so many different looking games
>>565703424>The only thing "progress" posters ever accomplished is entertaining nodevs by allowing them to experience game development vicariously through othersExcept for potentially making nodevs passive through such means, is that really such a bad thing? My long abandoned goal was inspiring others through my own work.Low finish rate is the sad reality of gamedev regardless of posting unless there's some mechanism that ruins your chances.>>565703610I've been waiting for years for the recovery.
>>565704061shutup
>>565703610what dates are you comparing
>>565703610>But it should pass eventually, the sun always rises.I'm sure the Carthaginians told themselves the same thing. Still, maybe this time "Carthage" does win, (or at least something new and better can be build on its ashes)
>>565704231you know i'm right
>>565703610>>565704271>>565702767Post game, you won't
>>565702767it's been like this for years. you can leave for 6 months, or 12 months, or whatever, and still come back to find the same spam by the same retard.
https://teckentech.github.io/Multiversal-Warrior/ how can stupid shit like this be kinda addictive?
>>5657046693 years of you whining, 3 years of you having no game
>>565704669it wasn't this bad in 2022 or 2023 though, and AI slop was already common back then. it only started in 2024, and that's when a partircular ban evading site also appeared.
>>565704996Thanks for the contribution.
>>565704669It's getting way worse than I've ever seen and it won't get better until jannies nuke it all for extended period of time.>>5657050672022 was the turning point I think, but it wasn't AI, just people caring less.
>>565705239it was the pdf posters making everyone else leave, you let this happen because you are a pdf too
>>565654982>vampire survivors was from 3 years ago
>>565703173goyim really are cattle
>>565701287>>565702362Solar took forever to chargehttps://youtu.be/GB_A7zzKS28https://youtu.be/qVwFmIzox2A
>>565705847the white part of the rich people on the right use private militias to control you instead
gomenasai aggydaggy-san I was supposed to have a demo last DD but I couldn't get it ready in time and then I was supposed to have it this demo day but I gave up halfway through april.... owarida...
Here I am, up to no good once again.
The event that changed /agdg/ the most was the Great Floppening of Marmoreal. Marmoreal was the wake up call for any 130+IQ yesdev a dream game with 3D anime girls complete with action combat, tons of levels, and animated cutscenes can and will shitted and flopped bigly. It has forced yesdev who fully intend to make it into an extended period of soul searching and project hopping.
I won I won I won
Workflow status?
>>565706290it made devs realize that gogemcunt was right all along, and that slop is the only thing that sells on steam. none of the oldfags are active even in the official discord server.
>>565703424HVLY FVCKING TRVTH NVKE
>>565705993I would hardly call gangstalkers "private militia"https://youtu.be/2cyoMfpLiAI
ludstatus?
k noted, slop with good feeling mechanics sell
>>565706686write down that water is wet as well mkay
>>565706290But you see anon, wagmi! The reality is that marmo died by hugbox.>SOUL>GONNA MEKE IT ENERGYAll that bullshit. The reality is that games can sell only if players know they exist. For that, you need to market your product.One last thing: of all those fan in his hugbox, almost nobody did buy and review marmo.
>>565706290anyone who expected marmoreal to do well is a fucking idiot
>>565707067hugboxes are cancer and cancer kills
>>565707067>you need to market your product.I never saved the screenshot, but there was one where marmo went to 20+ different subreddits spamming his game and got 0 updoots.
>>565707219I played his demo, would have played the game if it had a male mc and was free on some website when I was a kid
>>565707067>>565707524Marketing meaning pay for ads. Clicks are cheap af
>>565707561>would have played the game if it had a male mc and was free on some website when I was a kidthat's more than it deserved
>>565706525>official
>>565706495https://youtu.be/ljHTuYoHnPU
>>565707620>paid adsunc still living in 2018
Marmoreal made like 21k USD after fees, not bad if it was made in a year
just looked up marmoreel for the first time...are you guys fucking serious with this shit?
>>565707852>if it was made in a year
Marmoreal isn't even out of early access yet, you dummies.
>>565706291>>565706291>>565706291
>>565707961chumean twin?
nobody above me even knew what marmoreal was before i namedropped it alongside nuns and guns
>>565708104>im a boomer who never made itok
>>565708030why are pdfs like this
>>565707852Nah. He made way less. Less than $5k IIRC. His review count is extremely skewed because retards here (myself included) bought the game just to leave a positive review. Too bad the Steam algorithm does not actually care about review count. Also, it took over a decade to make.
>>565708165
>>565707653I though it was fun when I played it. >>565707852Not bad side cash if true desu. And he kept remaking stuff over and over so I wonder how much time the final version "really" took if you discount making the pre-unity version, remaking shit, learning process, etc. Like he probably has a good foundation he could launch future games off that will be more cost effective
>>565708104Oh yeah? Who do you think was editing the marmos into ahegao in 2014?
we lost
>>565708517and gabencunt won...
>>565708619>>565708619>>565708619
>>565708235>Also, it took over a decade to make.Oh dear
>>565708104What about omnigon, another>SOULthat sold nothing
>>565706178That's a good start.
>>565708802Omnigon didn't see nearly the same level of overwhelming support for /agdg/ devs. Only 2-4 out of 10 of Omnigon's reviews are from /agdg/. Something around 30-40 out of Marmoreal's 52 reviews are from /agdg/.
>>565708030>>565708352kill yourself
wtf happened to marmo anyway? he left agdg?
>>565709413killed maamself
>>565709413Please have patience. He's depressed.
>>565709758>game sold nothing>all your "friends" that hyped you up didnt do a thing to help you succeed >after years of work you slowly realize that you were memed for the lulz>don't worry marmo! Next game will go better ;^)
>>565710219Cruel
>>565708672i posted there without looking i will never recover from this humiliation
