>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>565620005
"Kelvin I've met a lot of whites in my time, but you; You're an real Übermensch."IN HEREI AM KING
Sex with Venator
Sex With Jeanne Geist
Buff Silver
I ran up an alt from Archon to Ascendant 1 past couple of weeks.These ranks are pure anarchy.
Doorman players look like THIS?
just help with the bloody urn how hard is it?
>>565708251You shouldn't call out or even deliver the urn if your team doesn't have the positioning or coordination to follow up.Yes your team can be tards, but it's also on you if you deliver the urn for the enemy and initiate a losing team fight. In other words, there can be two tards in this equation.
Whenever I hit the mid game with Yamato and start roaming, I somehow always get overtaken by bloodlust and end up rushing in to multiple heroes because I want to solo the entire enemy team. And if the rest of the game went well for me, I usually can. Yamato is the most fun hero to play by far
>>565708251and get my walker destroyed? nah
>pick up the urn without saying a word>vc volume set to zero>watch three mics light up>carry it back to base>wait until everyone starts brooling>deliver during the chaos Shrimple as that
>>565708251I audibly sigh if I see the 0/6 feeder tard pick up the urn. I know what's going to happen: a teamfight where we get absolutely blown out
Had a dream I was Doorman and started punching Silver on a wall but it made her horny and she began dry humping me while I kept beating her
When are they adding little girls to the game?
>>565707695In here I am führer
>>565708884>vc volume set to zerobased low cortisol enjoyer
>>565709853graves was a test and the playerbase failed spectacularly so never.
when will it be graves's turn
>>565709628why can't my dreams be like that! all i get is wandering around weird empty buildings and nightmare shit...
who will win bros
>>56571029390% blue sideJust hold LMB and win
>>565710293>3 m1ggers on one side, only 1 on the other>dynamo and kelvinjust go afk at that point
Why isn't Mina white?
>>565710293Obviously Blue
queue simulator
>>565710784we eternus players would rather smurf than play in our own rank lol
>>565710994I just installed this shit
Why is urn all of a sudden a big deal? Wtf happened? I want to go back to everyone ignoring it rather than something new to chimpout at
If you aren't Celeste Ivy Holliday with Stam Mastery or Drifter dont touch the urn
>Sniffed Arcanist 1 for the first time>Back to the Alchemist 5 after 3 bullshit losesI am once again reminded why I am not good with competitive games
>>565710784>>565711173the game is looking very hard to find the 0/10 retard to put against an eternus 6 smurf for your forced 50/50 loss>>565711280everybodys trying to get trophy collector stacks and urn forces a teamfight
>>565711280>why is urn all of a sudden a big deal>all of a suddenwhat's that one effect, where you learn a new word or something and start seeing it everywhere?this feels like a flavor of thatit's 1 of 2 neutral objectives. winning the neutral objectives tends to win you the game
>>565711173My queue times are usually around 2-5 mins down in Seeker 5. You should lose a few games so your queues can get faster
>>565711280why would you ignore urn it can completely change games stop farming jungle and help deliver it ape
>>565711728>why would you ignore urnbecause anytime I try to deliver it, none of my teammates actually give a fuck about itwhy would I be delivering urn for my enemies?
gay sex with apollo!
>>565710676Here's some art where she is.
IN HERE, *I* AM KING.
Don't bother getting up.
>>565712490Last thing Mina sees before I save her with a heal nade
Sometimes i own everyone as Vindicta and sometimes i can't land a single fucking ult. What's going on.
>the one actual healslut in this game is a bara ginger>as he is not a cute girl and/or animal, women don't play him>he is implied to be gay what did volvo mean bu this
>>565708251Unless the lanes are really pushed and/or you have like two people dead on your team you should always take the urn. As you can see by the other replies there's a lot of people who are just too mindbroken and would rather just ignore it, but its just not an option. If you don't take the urn the enemy team can take it and fight on their own terms. Take the urn, hold it, see if you can deliver, force them to rotate. Take the fucking urn. Its the second most important objective in the game. You can lose a walker to deliver the urn, it doesn't matter, TAKE THE FUCKING URN and for the love of god don't ignore your teammate who has it.
i love victor
>>565713116I would say 7 out of 10 times that I try to deliver urn, I just end up accidentally giving it to the enemies instead. At a certain point I just gave up on doing it unless their entire team is dead, I'm a liability more often than not
Shut the fuck up
The last few games had nothing but teammates dying over and over again. What am I supposed to do when people die like 10, 15 or even 18 times?
>every single hero has a below average rating>only mcpennis has above averagei guess i found my main
>>565712961If you're american like me I can say our infastructure is shitting the bed today and it's pointless to play online games unless you live in an urban area with a good ISP. Could also just be you being inconsistent of course but usually it's obvious if it's that and only (You) can tell really.
>>565713328You need to work on your positioning and awareness then. You shouldn't just blindly make a beerush to the urn delivery point, use the high ground, see if the enemies are nearby, gauge if your team is there to help you. Use movement to run from people who try to take the urn from you. Getting the urn is not about delivering it necessarely, just by taking the urn you actively force the enemy team to change the way they're playing to stop you. Think about why you are getting caught 7 out of 10 times and work on that rather than giving up on the objective entirely
>>565712660What a strange way to spell Abrams.
>>565713328This is why I don't get Ivy urn delivery hate. Yes I get it that the fly speed is slow, but the urn deliverer doesn't have to use stamina or risk getting ganked by the entire enemy team and I can comfortably drop them directly onto the delivery site before the enemy team musters any significant force to counter meNobody ever knockdowns me too, though this is because I'm an alchemistGAWD
>>565710386>>565710652>>565710691we lost guys
>>565713591High ground gargoyle tech is a good idea. I'll try to remember that if I'm brave enough to try running it again.>>565713678There's hate for that? It seems like the best method
>>565713806It should not be possible to just look at the teams comp and instantly know who will win.
>>565713806THE LASH tried so hard, and got so farBut in the end, it didn't even matter
>>565713806To be expected.What's the point of indomitable there? Doesn't seem very high value against that comp
>>565713678It's also a waste because you can just throw them and they get the Urn drop. And it's not like you can't just avoid them as soon as you see them if not near dropoff.>>565713806>indomitableThis seems like a trap item when you could just go unstoppable. Really I'd only go it on maybe Mina if you absolutely need to keep reactive barrier.
>>565714071Indominable is a trap item. Counterspell and unstoppable do the "stop CC" part better, and witchmail does the "lower cooldowns" part better, because the cooldown for it is near instant, vs 1 minute
>>565713806>silver>losthow shes S tier
>BLYAAAT PUSSI YOU ARE PUSSI GO FIGHT LASH DOUBLE BLACKHOLE DYNAMO BLYAAATeuthanise all snow niggers with prejudice
Watch Dynamo receive another slap on the wrist soon
>>565713806You had Graves Rem, probably like 20% winrate pairing
>>565714206Yeah exactly, the barrier scaling is exactly the same and you gain +6%res. Feels like a overstated 1600 and not a 6.4k item or even a 3.2k item.
>Mina, Geist, Dynamo, and Lash on the same teamFuck this stupid ass game
>>565714551It genuinely only exists as a late game slotlock upgrade for reactive, thats the only reason i see actually buying it over unstoppable
>>565714498The cooldown on his QE already went from 19s to 20s. He's in the fucking gutter, they overnerfed him.
>>565714427His stats are good considering he's a frontliner in a losing game.
>losing too much on Drifter match maker is booting me off the hero
>>565714756no you've no idea this nigger literally made like 50 bad calls this game. he single handedly lost us the game with his shit calls.
>>565714836how fucking broken is the F key in this game
>>565714865Just saying posting the stats doesn't help your arguement; For a billy losing they're fine.
>>565714836god damn looney tunes tier clip
>>565714836>using parriesKill yourself.
>>565715009okay what does help my arguement though is that he's a russian retard and they never make good shot callers
>>565714206it would be a good item if they removed silence from triggering it because right now its easily countered by a 3.2k item. because there are scenarios for unreactable ults/stuns like mnk/doorman coming from behind and shit
>>565715115Don't listen lmao; Why are you letting him mind control you more than once?
>>565714865Maybe if you played around him instead of afking farming you would have wonLike that other anon said the KDA is perfectly fine for a losing game.
>>565715083>>565714906>>565714836meleetards will never learn
>go help team because i have actives>okay time to fi->everyone left and now i have to fight the entire teamyeah im never doing that again
>>565715320>abusing parriesKill yourself.
>>565715452I was probably your teammate. I don't like big teamfights, I'm always the first to leave a fight if it smells funky.
>>565715320>this is the type of retard that makes daily parry schizo posts
>>565715550This is why I'm so sick of the trophy collector meta, it just leads to 4-6 people deathballing in mid trying to get their INSANE 18 souls per minute stacks
what if holiday had human silver's kit
>>565715550do you have an intellectual disability?
>>565708236>doorman>kelvin desktop wallpaper>dressed like celeste???
>>565715781They should've done that, instead of giving it to a hero that doesn't even have her own animations
just met the best Holliday player I have ever seen
>>565715781they will eventually get holliday's kit to a good spot, i think bouncepads, and barrels are fun enough really.they could even just let the barrels stay a lot longer or give you more of them or both
>>565708236What even happen to this kind of person once they reach 40?
REMOVEPARRIESTHEYARECHEATS
Mirage is SO strong in shitlow literally a SINGLE dispel magic also spirit burn doesnt proc on marks is that intended or what?
>Callico goes 0/4 in lane>Tries to roam and does nothing>Shit talks team all game>Gets carried by a 20/5 mina>Proceeds to tell everyone else to uninstall. What level of delusion do you have to be on to be this bad and still have an ego?
>>565716056But without parries, how do you counter melee?
>>565716056YOUHAVEAGOATFORAHEAD
>getting raped by enemy team>however we have a vortex web/cheat death doorman>he is able to kidnap someone every 5-8 minutes>enemy team plays extremely cautiously>at the same time we can't push enemy since doorman can't do shit to help for pushes>0 walkers down>45 minute game because enemy team all farm indom/unstop on nearly every character when this could have been ended in 25 minutesdoorman literally takes games hostage for 11 other people. this is not ok
>>565716039suicide
>>565715827Not to my knowledge
>>565716214>>Shit talks team all gameI utterly despise when dead feeders try to backseat game me, if you're so good at the game maybe you wouldn't be 0/12 and currently on an 80 second death cooldown
>parryschizo shitting and pissing himself again because people don't like parries lol
>mute voice chat>mute text chat>only communicate through pings
>>565716979I'm gonna hijack your post to ask. Can you have multiple chat wheels? I'm out of space on my main one and I want more chats to use. Also how do people draw on the map?
>>565716527why would he shit himself over people agreeing with him
new seven skin just got leakedhttps://x.com/JUNGJAE131/status/2050754422431752258
>>565717183Parryschizo is the retard that thinks everyone disliking parries are the same person.Disliking parries is completely normal.
>>565717183think parryschizo got fed up with the name so tries to no u it now
I like Paige but I feel like playing any support other than Dynamo is throwing...
Parrying a quick melee just shouldn't stun, it should only negate the damage.
>>565717617I agree with this and I've unbound my parry key.
>>565717573>but I feel like playing any support other than Dynamo is throwing...my guy is acting like kelvin isnt meta right now
>>565717573all the supports are strong
>barely been nerfed since launch>game has changed so much that he dropped from S/A tier to C tier regardlessWe're speedrunning powercreep at speeds I didn't think possible.%HP damage on blessed melee/stakes when>>565717617This but for Billy only. They can nerf the shit out of all his other abilities to make it balanced. Anything so I can play the goat without feeling like it's a complete diceroll whether I'm about to completely throw the game when I try and use a key feature of his kit>just mixup the timing broin a 40 minute game they're bound to get lucky a few times regardless
>>565718208>%HP damage on blessed melee/stakes whenThat's just more powercreep, a consequence of them raising HP pools higher and higher
>>565707507Shame there's no Risks in this game and all rewards. It might be balanced one day if they fix that
>>565717357you are one person and you've made this exact same post like four times you retard gee whiz almost like it really is one fucking person
>>565718465Ok parryschizo
>>565717163i've seen this guy on apollo before
>>565718434>riskUsing melee >reward Middling damage
>>565718576(that's you)
>>565718392Powercreep is only bad when the characters I like to play are the one's getting creept
>>565718858i dont like it when the chars i play are S tier because then i only can play them 50% of the time
Oh you thought you were going to hit people with your ult? Sorry dynamo has a 10 second cooldown ability sorry bro
just for one day, make it so that counterspell stuns spiritifags. let them feel the pain that us meleeGAWDS feel every day
why does light melee stun even stun you longer than a heavy melee stun? Billy should get unstoppable on Wrecked desu
>>565718892>Kelvin gets buffed>No longer get to play him everygameIt's not fair
are the other people who are pissed about parries in the room with us right now
if you parry someone they should die
>>565715956>18/0 with presumably very high damage per minute without using the secret buildimpressive, very nice
>>565715269>Maybe if you played around himyes bro play around his really in depth calls of "chase chase go dont be pussi" in the open while the enemy team is lash and dynamo. it's amazing the lengths you /v/iggers will go to be contrarian. this is your hobby isn't it? you just want to disagree and defend even the dumbest motherfucker in the game.
god I love playing apollo, as in just flying around
>everyone hates parries>multiple people post about it>"umm your all the same person! you're (singular) the parryschizo not me!" t. parryschizoParryschizo is really losing it huh.
Billy is the only honest hero in a game full of dishonest AOE slop, m1keys, i-frame teleports, etc
>>565719159*presses 2 on my ally for extra duration**hits slowing hex on you**silence waves you**curses you**ults you for added pain*
>>565715225I don't have the means to stop him mind controlling randoms outside of saying "that's a retarded call don't listen"
>>565717617it should just stun for half the duration
>>565719184I dont hate parries but its kinda fucked up you can counter Billy with base game mechanics like you dont even need an item to make him poopy
I love baning niggernus just to have him in my lane every single game
>>565719045tradeoff, instantly die if you parry nothing>>565719184Parrying is great, Billy is the problem because half of his kit is countered by a baseline ability. Imagine how ass Vindicta or greytalon would be if everybody started the game with knockdown
Melee system as a whole is flawed and Billy is the prime example of it's major flaw
Aegis in DOTA:>revive for 1 person>takes up 1 out of 6 item slotsRejuvenator in deadlock>revives 3 people>doesn't require an item slot
is it worth learning those stalker's mark lineup for drifter
>win>rank down two ranks?????
I like Paige, I don't care that she's Deadlock Mercy.
>>565719506>she's Deadlock Mercy.Paige doesn't just hold down right click to heal the dps that she's esexing with on discord
>>565719447understand that every single design decision made in this game is to try and get initiates to stop ending games at minute 50 whether or not those initiates engage with any mechanics
>>565719506the deadlock mercy is more like mina imo, absolute safety due to broken mobility
>>565719660It's not working, games still drag on for 30-60 minutes in shitlow (rarely 70)
>>565719506Overwatch's idea of support is so fucking retarded compared to Deadlock
What is the good Kelvin build and how should I play him?Do I just constantly roam the map with someone for easy ult kills?
>>565719184each parryschizo post is either 1 minute apart or posted at almost the same time, very curious
>>565719506
>>565719660I wish they'd lean in even harder thenI basically only play streetbrawl when my duo isn't on because every match is exactly the same. 30ish minutes of totally irrelevant bullshit, then a 5-10 minute m1 carry rape session that completely decides the game.
>>565719184>multiple people post about itare they in the room with us
>>565720023ensure any poke and the enemy is meaningless and they're only allowed to full commit brool by chucking grenades at alliesensure any commit from the enemy goes nowhere with domeoverextend constantly and don't get punished with pathbuild spirit
>>565719506shes cute + sweet + sexy
>>565719439>melee character that doesn't need to interact with parry at all to win
>>565720257thanks
>>565720523This.
>hard-stuck in alchemistWhy tf do matches feel so lopsided. When I started in this queue matches were super back and forth and hype, and now they're just stomps.
>>565721315https://x.com/SuuBrainrot/status/2050986808914395491this is you nigga?
>>565721667So THIS is the elo assassin I get in my shitlow games....
>win 3 in a row>go down a rankUhhhhh, niggerdevs???
>>565719184every post is near identical and occurs in sequence at roughly the same time (with a rolling offset because you're a schizophrenic NEET with a horrible sleep schedule)
>>565721994what the fuck is that winrate holy shitI thought I was bad
>>565721994>24% winrateI hate w*men so much
>>565722186>that's how poorly you have to play to unironically end up in fucking alchemistwew lad
>>565719506Rem is Deadlock's Mercy. Just stick to the carry and hold left click.
>>565714836>>565715320DISHONEST>>565719506everyone likes Paige sissiesbut i like them more
Just had a match as Yamato were i had 60ms average and 35% packet loss, it was like scrapping my nuts with sanding paper. Fucking slideshow gameplay, ended up managing to land some of my power slashes due to people being predictable in movement but had multiple cases were i missed 1 hp enemies due to this shit. In the end we won since i was able to get into the center of the enemy team and spamming buttons with refresher thus giving some value and not making it a 5v6, but it was the most painful victory ive ever had. No fucking idea how 35% pl is possible with 60ms, fuck my ISP
>>565722186>I thought I was badevery time you think that, just remember that this game is still a mountain compared to the small hills people who start with modern vidya get
>>565719259Well if they're all listening to him and you didn't try shotcalling your only choice is to join them and maybe coinflip a win or just lose because you aren't playing as Six.
>>565721994>1282 games played>1116 killsThat's less than 1 kill per patch... that's not even mentioning the atrocious winrate
r8 my mcginnis build
>>565721667you wish but similar complaints
>>565721994>you can climb from initiate to alchemist with 20% WR HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA WORSE THAN MARVEL RIVALS KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>565721994and I thought I was an MMR assassin....
>>565722613>and you didn't try shotcallingYes I did. You're assuming things. Also notails is a competitive player joking about his pro matches going full retard and needing to respond in kind. This was never applicable to pubs. You're supposed to correct retards because the mistakes they're making WILL just end a game. It's more harmless at the level notail is referring to.
>>565722842>leech instead of infuser
>>565684058Nothing makes me more upset than when it's past 30 mins and my Dynamo STILL doesn't have Refresher. You're playing the easy win hero but you're intentionally making it hard.At the same time, I'm extremely happy every time I check the enemy Dynamo's items and don't see Refresher. Yesterday I won a game off of how long that guy delayed the purchase, because we outscaled them too much and bought counters. You're supposed to Singularity teamwipe us before we have the chance to outskill/outbuy you, retard.
The funny thing is knowing that it's only going to get worse from here
>>565723246Same with Victors who don't farm and don't have refresherYes bro, go into the teamfight when your ult isn't up, over and over and over
>>565723332>only going to get worse it's best patch we've had in a while, they targeted all the right things. the only fluke is trophy collector and maybe shadow weave
>>565723418Trophy Collector and Egg need to be removed from the game so monkeys stop inting macro.
>>565721994reminds me of thishttps://tmpfiles.org/dl/36360378/sd9nykvtyfjc6yqq.mp4
i only play melee+spirit hybrid builds, any other heroes it works on other than these? no billy or abrams i dont like their kit
>>565719498this didnt happen
>>565721994I have a sneaking suspicion that that screenshot is edited...
>>565723403>Same with Victors who don't farm and don't have refresherTo be fair gun victor is meant to be this weird tempo abomination so it kinda works? Kinda kinda still shit and you're better off playing HazeHis spirit build is even worse since it requires 40k+ worth of items to function for mediocre output.
>>565723418>it's best patch we've had in a while>Dynamo walks away with a slap on the wrist>Kelvin isn't even mentioned>Warden cage still has a silence>Ivy tether>MinaPre old gods was better than this bullshit
>>565723558apollo, ivy, viscoos, sinclair, kelvin, calico, celeste
>>565723663Yeah I saw that too. Why though?
>>565721994>>565723508funbros wins again
>>565723558oh hi croc>spiritthe only Venator shit that scales with spirit is his trap and resistances, doesn't match your descriptionApollo works, he applies a fucking -52% melee resist debuff to rispote'd targets and the last upgrade makes the stun last over 2 seconds, guaranteeing a heavy melee and some.Shiv might work but you have no real way to guarantee a heavy melee. His damage amp also applies to his melee.Victor sorta, because people are often too panicked or distracted to notice your heavy melee. I always get away with heavy melees if I do it at the right time, there's usually too much noise going on and it drowns out the cue.Paige if you want to int, her melee scales with spirit.
>>565723707While Dynamo and Mina did only get slaps on the wrist, but at least they know they're broken and I'm 100% sure they will address them further. They're not usually in a rush to nerf popular heroes more than they need to, unless it's Victor or Mo or Viscous or any of the other low pickrate heroes that the devs don't play>Ivy, Kelvin, Wardenthey're fine, hopefully the weaker heroes just get bumped up to their power level instead
>ults>your whole team dies
>>565724330>FACE ME AND DIE.>faces him>diesidiot
>>565724581what do then
Mod called Chatlane lets you make custom nested menus.
its at the point now where i just report every holiday i get on my team for griefingtruly the most worthless character in the game
>enemy victor has 45k and hasnt died once>tell my team we need a ton of antiheal and other shit to deal with him since he hasnt died once yet>everyone actually listens>he rages in all chat the first time he dies and we win shortly aftermission accomplished>>565724692same thing you do to victors
>>565724769Meant for>>565717150
>>565723830Oh right apollo got that stun buff on his 2, might try himI tried ivy and its just unreliable to land your stone form so i dropped her>>565723979I thought shiv's 2 only reduced spirit resistance?
>>565723558shiv can do melee pretty well, geist might be able to, victor can do ult build with some meleeviscous is more of a ranged melee spell caster
>>565723558Billy
>>565724838>holiday on my team (2/9)>"sorry if I'm bad, first with this hero teehee">holiday on their team 12/2>schmovement god who never miss a single headshot
>>565724893I love watching victor sissys seethe
>>565724692something tells me you would've lost this game no matter what
>>565723558>>565723830>>565723979>>565725181>>565725192>no one mentioning melee seven
>>565725445*dispels magic*
>>565725445>Melee cage warden
>>565724893retard metaslave victor
>>565724893How do people like this function?>WHAAT YOU'RE GULPS TRYING TO WIN BY COUNTER BUYING ME YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LET ME WALK FORWARD AND KILL YOU ALL!!!!!!!!the fuck happens to you that you get like that?
>>565724978When I say damage amp I mean his Rage passive.
>>565725580echo shard nigga>>565725638you can parry while immobilized. just do spirit nuke shard cage for 0 risk 1shots
>In fight late game>Almost dead but cheat death procs>Wall jump into dash away except friendy viscous cubes me so I get stuck in the middle of the brawl>DieThanks goo guy
>>565724893the best part about countering the "unkillable overpowered demon hero" Victor is that the counters are universally overpowered against every other hero as well
>>565723558I don't want to tell you because people will realize it's secretly broken and I want a few more weeks of abusing it before people catch onI can also guarantee it's going to get buffed soon for no reason so I REALLY don't want to call more attention to it
I don't really understand Hollidays kit, I expected to be a cowboy gimmick, such as fanning the hammer shit like that. The whole barrel and bounce pad thing is strange
>>565725894Yeah stacking silences and antiheal is never bad. Maybe inefficient but never bad
>>565725992Victor tops
>>565724893nigga can just buy eshift
>>565725952unfortunately you can't want a character with a cool revolver to fan the hammer or you immediately get accused of wanting to turn her into a mccree overwatch clone
>>565726063he had it, didnt matter crippling and toxic have no cooldownI had focus lens so he 'd just die really fast even if he could heal through it the damage would reapply
>>565725912melee infernus?schizo guess: melee kelvinboring guess: melee celestemelee talon?
>support + carry in lane>they kill their guardian first>both of them stay in the lane instead of helping someone elsewhat are some of the tells you're going to lose the match?
>>565725804I had one of those moments last night.>be playing nu mcginnis>be ulting people with the nu short duration but higher damage ult>ivy spins around shooting next to me then stops and stares at me for a moment before ulting and flying with me>my ult ends before she even reaches height and she drops me into the middle of the guys I was bombarding and I die
My main problem with playing gun characters is staying in range. If you're slightly out of range, you deal shit damage. But it feels like every time i get close to my enemies i instantly get obliterated. Its really hard to strike a balance
>>565726236staying in lane for easy farm and to continue killing/pressuring the enemy is entirely normal and you are not entitled to having your shit ass losing lane bailed out at a moment's notice
>>565726236the carry should stay in the lane solo farming and the support either roam or steal the enemy's boxesif other lanes are doing exceptionally poorly there isn't much the support can do
>want to have a normal game>get paired with subhuman nigger abortion waste like Silver in pic rel and have to deal with 30k souls ahead Gravesi hope this Silver gets to watch his mother die from painful cancer the shitty nigger faggot
>game crashes as match starts>it's ok people always pause anyway>no one paused
gorth I thought you said you were taking a break
>>565726772Graves is the worst character in the game lmao.What rank is this?
>>565726990gorth is unbreakable
>>565727152>Graves is the worst character in the game lmao.that goes to Holliday imo
>avoid dynamo>still get this nigger character in my games every time anyway
>>565726374>>565726492we'll eventually lose the lane if it's a 3v2 while our dynamo is busy staring at a wall
>>565726772>silver lostHow?
>>565727152>>565727214i would rather have a graves on my team than a paradox or holiday any day of the week
Is there any reason in particular Graves gets to build full bullet damage and still have her entire kit function?
>>565727236activate zee boosted animals
gg close(they DC'd after game end)
>>565727393her gun range forces her to play chicken with initiators
>>565720070haha yeah she can put out damage when she wants to with just a little tweak to her usual-- wait a minute...
How does fire rate even work on graves?
>>565727393>no mobility>no damages, weakest gun in the game>no tanking,>free souls from the skulls (they die with one hit)>can't headshot>no depth>no complexity>no nothing>people somehow still cry about her
>>565726772>two people have slowingfor who?
>comm banned from telling a Mirage abuser faggot to swallow a bulletI didn't do anything wrong. I'm doing the world a favor.
>>565727393Because she's worthless
>apollo beats me in laneI was going to build gun. Now neither of us get to play the game we logged on for.
>>565728186you could've just called him a nigger and been fine. Dunno why they're so anal about threats and telling people to kill themselves but I can call someone a nigger faggot and they don't care
>>565727825>>no mobilitynot having to aim = all of your focus goes into mobility schmoovement>>no damages, weakest gun in the gameread passive>>no tanking,what did xhe mean by this>>free souls from the skulls (they die with one hit)enemy hero collected 30 additional souls, it's so over>>can't headshotfair
>>565726772>one single knockdown against vindicta with dispell.
i am going to krill myself hahaha
Heh, don't worry Paige, we can make you a new brother ;)
>>565726772>>565728642stop playing for yourself... enable your team...
>>565728642>silver losthow?
What is lil bro talking about?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZHlZ70j0c8
>>565728752she has been trying but dogs can't impregnate humans unfortunately
graves shoot her water gun at you?just walk away lmao!
>>565722098HELLO NIGGER DEVS?4 in a row and another derank???
>>565728760i can't click my teams buttons for them. also we're separate anon's that both play m/k and rage at our teams. maybe i just gotta get off mo but i refuse.
>permaban dynamo>enjoyment of matches increase tenfoldHmm interesting
>>565729089>No toxic bulletsWell there's her problem.
how does ap rounds work? its like mkb but instead of 100% true strike you get 50% for some reason?
>>565729243what's your stats lil bro.
>>565729089Graves is legit garbage, it's a throw pick.
>>565729036That's not a nice thing to call Silver.
>>565729089H-Heh... b-but you almost died... lol...
>check patch notes>another Mina nerfyeah fuck it quit taking up space on my hard drive, fucking worthless tranny infested tranny balanced piece of live service shit
>>565729817didnt know there was a mina themed gorth in the general too
>>565729243>>565722098The fraud detector subsystem seems to be working just fine.
>>565726038
>>565729959Phantom 1 to Oracle 5, not much a fraud for shitlow
Is pocket good?
>guy in chat complains about our team only taking free kills>he can't even get a kill in a 3v1I try not to be mean in public chat but I wanted to tell him overwatch would be more his speed.
>>565729817I hope this is a real post because it's hilarious that you'd think anyone would care or miss a Mina abuser
>>565729949>mina themed gorthno one knows what in the fuck you're talking about with your fucking faggot retard e-celeb discord tranny in-jokes or whatever
>>565729817>minatard whining that her broken ass character gets .00001 less damage scaling or something stupid as the devs are known to dolollmao
>>565707507Why does warden even exist? Literally the worst fucking m1er who is only useful for spamming cages. His ult does literally nothing and his gun sucks. What does this fucker even do?
>>565730357He's the resident thread lolcow newfag, lurk moar
>>565729817>mina player quitsNothing of value was lost.
>>565730365>>565730347Every single patch for the last like 6 months, if Mina has been touched, she's been nerfed.You subhuman retards are really still on the Mina train, no wonder the fucking retard devs can get away with anything if you think Mina has been relevant and needing adjustment for 6 months. They already gutted her forever ago and she's barely a mid tier character but go ahead and let the devs keep ignoring actual problems because you fucking myopic subhuman nigger zygotes are still on memes from a year ago. Get with the fucking times.You continue to act like she's a problem while the faggot devs refuse to address actual issues.
>graves a throw pick>mina solidly mediocre>rem fucking uselessat one time I loved quing up. Each game I have like no impact and can't close out games alone.
>worst player makes a call>people listen for some reason>loseIf you have the worst stats on the team your communication should be turned off completely.
>>565729243apparently mm just got changed in the last hour, I havent had a chance to try it as my friends wanted to play something else after a lane with 2 randoms went 5-30
>>565730357>DUUUUUUR I HAVE NOOOOO IDEA WHO OR WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUTNigger for someone who "doesnt give a fuck about edrama" you sure do chime into it a lot
>>565730663>hits you 5 times with tiny little ticks to get mass spirit nuke>press another button to get yet another nuke on youuh huh, sure, but please tell us what the real problem is oh wise one
>>565730663What is bro waffling about
>>565730562>>565730781>he's the [local kiwitroons-tier tranny gossip jibber jabber target] newfag!>you don't know cumlord420 and BigEgg1488? they're legends in this thread brooo watcumean cuz? you clearly don't belong. didn't you know sallydilation76 made it a thread rule to pay tribute to the legends?holy fuck, take a hot bath and dilate your veins from your elbow to the tip of your middle finger you fucking faggot trannies
>>565730663>but-but-but she's been nerfed!!!yeah okay retard and? She should keep getting nerfed until she's balanced because even with all of these nerfs she's easily top 3.
>>565731007Call down gorth this isn't good for your blood pressure
Draft won't fix the game.There needs to be a role queue.
>>565731007>gorth tranny having a meltylole
>>565731154this game has no roles
>>565731498>all the characters internally have roles/archetypes coded into them to organize them for matchmaking which actually does try to allocate roles forcing balanced teamsit actually affects your queue times too
>>565731176>>5657314983 minutes between posts and the previous one was made to argue about local thread celebritiesdead fucking game
remove movement cheatsfuck movement
>>565719792Well yeah they copied the idea from TF2, which also fucked it upValve has definitely, in the time since making TF2, realized that making a character that exists only to WASD next to the best player on the team, but is still mandatory because every 40 seconds they press a button that wins the fight, was a bad fucking idea.Unfortunately Overslop and Chinese Capeshit haven't realized this so those games have shitty cheerleader roles.Playing support in deadlock is so much more fun because its less about being a shitty cheerleader and more about control.
>>565730676All the new heroes released stupidly broken except Ven and now have been nerfed into total uselessness
I didn't realize people playing the game should also be actively shitposting at the same time
>>565727152I'm glad people think this, since it means she'll be buffed again. She is not remotely bad, though, everyone is just too stupid to play her correctly.
>>565726772You dont have phantom strike or disarming hex.
>>565732084why is god gay and not making magic real and not making sexy gargoyle women real
>mo and krill player speakingshut up bitch
>>565732318mohammed is the hardest and most honest hero in the game
>>565713116>You can lose a walker to deliver the urn, it doesn't matterYeah bro just give them a flex slot just so you can maybe break even in souls, while being at a notable macro disadvantage after the fact. This post has to be a psyop trying to keep the solo queue competition low.Like, if the walker is hopelessly under attack and you can't 1v2, sure, go urn. Otherwise defend the walker, it's a no brainer.
>>565732006autism
Getting a cross map kill with Paige's ult doesn't happen often, but it's pure sex when it does.
>>565732519Is he wrong though?Even a Rem or a Paige has more gameplay than a TF2 Medic.
>>565732519>someone gulps said something similar in the previous thread?>must go through archive and post it you can only bring up a topic once in an entire generali think you're projecting and im not even that guy
>>565715827>anon has a self preservation instinct>in a game where respawn times are 80 seconds and devastating late game>call him retarded for not brooling more in a strategy game at a potential disadvantagelolHonestly though, either strategy works if your team is on the same page.
>>565732084i fucking need slampig gargoyle latina sweetheart gf
>>565732493and other tales from alchemist
>>565731498Then why some comps are better than others?The game obviously has roles like "initiator/frontliner", "support", "damage carry" etc. You'd have to be retarded to not notice that.
I'm seeker, if it matters
im actually going to take a break over doorman>just buy le heckin dispel magic!too slow to react to vortex web + cart unironically the worst character i've played against in any game i've ever played in the 35 years of my entire life holy fuck
>>565730676>mina solidly mediocreskill issue honestly but I'd rather you all believe this than to actually try to get good at that broken hero
IM PHANTOM TAKE ME OUT OF HEREEEEEEE
Matchmaking fixed?
>>565732493Urn is worth more gold than a walker. The third urn in a game is worth twice a walker in gold. The enemy walker will always be there for you to take down, there are finite amount of urns in a game. The urn is 100% worth losing a walker over
>>565733452just ban him like everyone else, he's literally the top 1 ban pickand buy counterspell also
>>565733531how is counterspell going to stop vortex web + cart kidnapping? i can easily do his ult
>Apollo is a throw pick (if you don't end the game in 30 minutes)>Graves is a throw pick>Venator is a throw pick>Rem is a throw pick>Silver is a throw pick>Celeste is a throw pick (if you don't know movement and don't do urns)Why was Old Gods such a flop?
>>565733452>too slow to react to cartare you perhaps geriatric? you can dispel the cart at any point
>>565732493>Yeah bro just give them a flex slot just so you can maybe break even in soulsIf its early enough for the urn to be comparable in value to a walker, it's too early for a flex slot to be that valuable.If its late enough for a flex slot to be valuable, the Urn is probably worth two walkers in souls.
>>565733732>Why was Old Gods such a flop?it wasn't, they need even more of these kind of characters so things are less predictable
>>565733632counterspell makes you immune to both of those, just press parry when you get vortex web'd usuallyor warp stoneor dispel magic
Agent 50. Your next target is an up and coming professional athlete for an e-sport known as Deadlock. They've seen a string of successes recently and the Agency has seen fit to throw a wrench in the works. You have a rescue beam and majestic leap in your briefcase. Do what you must.
I'm about to fell below 50% winrate..
buff half the heroes and nerf the other halfput everybody on an equal playing field, let anybody carry, let skill decide who wins, not whoever has the most broken kit
Either role queue or complete rework of all characters because having more Dynamo-types is auto win.
>>565734309I have a 44% winrate and I'm still climbing ranks
>>565733234NTA but trying to slap the Overwatch role queue onto this game is foolhardy at best.Even someone with as straightforward of a design as Abrams had a long period where he was played more like a high mobility assassin that teleports onto someone to do 2000 unavoidable damage and several seconds of CC.And supports range from "Don't worry team I can healbot everyone!!" to "I'm not letting anyone on the enemy team play the mf game."
>>565733531Shiv is still more banworthy
gun victor feels wrong
>>565734498in what world do you live in. I get his dash is crazy but I swear just buy dispel magic and he is a normal hero
>>565734452I fell one full rank already and still freefalling
I hate these GOD DAMN TREES
did the matchmaking update save deadlock yet?
>>565719276Other way around - heavy melee parry should be half the duration, light should be full. Light melee should be hard to counter but punishing when it is countered while heavy melee should be easy to counter but not instant suicide if you get parried. If you want light damage could be buffed and all shit that proc's differently off light/heavy could be the same so there's more incentive to light melee but I'm not really sure that's neccesary.
>>565716039They don't reach 40.
>>565734563>saw a 2k bag in a tree once>it drew like three teamfights as everyone wanted the badSo fucking dumb
matchmaking seems to be fuckedtried soloqueue todaymy team's on urn as soon as it spawns and ran 3/4 flawlessly (only dropped the first one because I wasn't there)we didn't even throw in base after getting rejuv, which is rare in my premadeseverybody went home to spend the 10k burning a hole in their pocketsenemy team lost all lanes, kept feeding like bots in every team fightalso they picked Holliday which means they don't care about winning or losinggame ended around 30 minutes like GODYoshi intended
>>565734315>put everybody on an equal playing fieldIn a perfect world, this would be the status quo. Issue is that no one has ever been able to pull this off, and trying to is always going to be a fools errand.The best you can hope for is that S ranks get nerfed, and F-D ranks get buffed, so that everyone sits at a roughly reasonable average. Some will be better, some will be worse, but everything can still work.
>>565734575>still no solo queueso the answer is no. stack trannies can fuck themselves we don't all have 5 unemployed friends at our beck and call.
I feel like I don't see as many Viscous' lately.
>>565734756>capacitor last item when it has fallen off when you're supposed to buy it 1st on paradox for most op tempo in the game
>>565713116>waste 15 seconds of my life and my life to hand the enemy team the urn that they wouldn't have touched otherwise.Picking up the urn is literally gambling in most badgeranks. Unless you're desperate, or have a character that makes it free, you should just ignore it and play the fundamentals better.You can take a walker in the time it takes you to deliver the urn, and when the enemy team dogpiles you at least they only get your death. Instead of your death and the urn. And you achieved something for your team other than increasing how behind you are.
>>565734894They nerfed what was fun about him(movement) into the ground in exchange from something viscous players don't really care that much about(damage) and then took that too.
>>565732493>get urn and lose walker>even exchange>lose urn and protect walker>entirely negative on the playcome on now, this is basic shit
>>565733514Actually the wrong way around. There are finite walkers, 3, and infinite urns.
>>565734903retard-kun....
>>565713116You should only take the urn or do midboss if it's safe to do so. Your team being retarded is one of variables that makes urn unsafe to do.
>>565734894streamers cried because viscous was meta for like two weeks so he got taken out back and shot
>>565735236>You should only take the urn or do midboss if it's safe to do so.I mean technically in matchmaking you can test the waters by just grabbing the urn and seeing how the enemy and team respond, at best you turn it in and at worst you can drop it in your spawn and move on.Leaving the urn there is actually detrimental to you.
Who are the bottom 3 worst heroes in lane?
Dynamo has no right to exist in this game. His ult is too oppressive and should never be made. I don't care what Yoshi is thinking.
>>565734512people that do gun victor should die
>>565735482hard to sayparadoxinfernushaze?
vortex web into dynamo ult seems insane but i never see anybody do it
>>565724947Thank you!!!
>>565733452buy indomitable instead
They should add Hoodwink to this game, I think that would improve the discussion in this general.
>>565735815A mexican cartel should skin alive and hack your mother in front of you you gay faggot subhuman nigger.
>>565735815they might have already crammed in ivy as a hoodwink representation, but we shall see as time goes on
>>565735546This except victor ult
>>565735784All this does is make the doorman start using his vortex web to pop it before he ults you.
>>565735874who pissed and cummed into your cheerios?
holy fuck just make it so only doorman's allies can move through doors and buff his bell to compensate
>>565735984Haha, that's our Rem!
>>565735482gravespaigeholliday
>>565736085>Implying that would be a fair tradeJust revert him back to pre old gods and you'll see less kidnap builds
>>565719754Mina skill floor is too high though so they just feed. Mina more like ow1 Widow, high skillfloor but easy to play with insane value for how safe she is.
>>565735815your Ivy?
>Holliday on my teamAdd a surrender option
>>565736324>Widowshe is closer to tracer if you are making a ow comparison.
>>565736085>buff his bellI hate to tell you this but it really doesn't matter what they do with Doorman.People will bitch about literally every character in the game that they don't play. Pickrate decides more of a person's opinion about a character than the actual balance of the character itself.Doesn't matter that Doorman has been 50% for the past few months, that means he's beating 50% of people and that's unacceptable to them.We literally had Doormen with stronger bells and people bitch about bellman too.
>>565734903I'm gonna be honest I only bought it to make Pocket's life more miserable. I don't want Pocket players to have fun.But I will try building Capacitor first next time. I don't really buy it so idk if it will be worth delaying Headhunter. In this match Headhunter was 5k damage and my regular gun damage was 8k. Paradox also seems like a bad fit for low cd procs like Capacitor.>>565735236You have to take it regardless of your team being retarded. Letting enemy have control of urn is going to at worst give it for free, or at best force you into a fight of their timing.>>565708251>>565713116I think people are also soured by the fact that most urn runners don't know how to do it safely. They're discouraged because they think it's just gonna get thrown.>1:00 run instead of 30-40 seconds>coming in from low ground instead of rooftops>YOLOing the dunk without scoping out the area firstFixing this is the easiest thing in the world btw... literally just go on the roof.
>>565736305This desu, kidnap meta is cancer and only like .0000001% of doormen use it for utility rotations. Honestly I might be the only one that does that now that I think about it.
>the mo and krill that's extremely timid during laning but just goes into the enemy jungle by themselves and dies repeatedly once the clock hits 20 minutes
>>565736460tracer wasn't as blatantly easy to play due to ow hitboxes+hitreg, but yeah I suppose she's similar in that a good Mina literally is unkillable. If they nerf Mina I hope it's rake
>>565722289I have a 62% winrate and cannot fucking escape alchemist, it took hundreds of games just to get out of initiate. Basically skipped seeker.LET ME OUT
>>565733976you realize doorman can open a door + cart you in less than 100ms right
>>565736731>LET ME OUTSorry bro your stats are being compared to the thousands of alts people have made that single handedly pay for the servers despite the game not being out nor monetised.
>>565735874seethe jew>>565735879>>565736423She's good but not fluffy enough.
>>565736664mina is fine right now, they have to either buff her counters or release some characters better at raping her at this point
>>565736773>he gets caught by doorman without vortex webLMAOOOOO
>>565736879I think she's fine but a good mina literally never dies. (She may still lose though)
>>565736493i'm just one person but i didn't really bitch about dashfernus, victor pre nerfs, haze ult bot, dynamo, doorman ult/bell being strong etc because those still have some counterplaydoornigger on the other hand just need vortex web + cheat death and a 22k doorman can kill literally anyone
>>565736941i can see how the doormen at your rank are unable to do this but a good doorman doesn't need web to kidnap
>>565735874this but to doorniggers
>>565735482Victor and Graves are 1000% the worst laners, like "assuming equal-ish sill, you should always win against a lane with one or both of these characters" tier. Beyond that I'm not really sure.
>>565736324>high skillfloor but easy to playnigger what the fuck are you talking aboutthis is an oxymoronoh you mean once you're best of the best she becomes good?once you have top tier mechanics she's one of the best?oh you don't say that's insane dudeshe becomes easy to play once you're GOOD and CONSISTENT and CONSISTENTLY GOOD?better nerf her next patch
>>565737254>in my completely made up scenario, the doorman is perfect and doesnt even need vortex web heh...and the person can dispel because.... HE JUST CANT OKAY also r-rank or somethingKEKAROOOO
what the fuck happened to venator
>>565734756my buddy deranked like 5 times since the last update, i'm not touching this game for at least a week
>>565737494They keep nerfing him and every item he uses so now he's gone from the most balanced and well designed of the new 6 to a piece of shit.
>>565737494This is proof that us m1chads and meleeGAWDS are oppressed Venator was the only honest m1gger... and they killed him...
>>565737407victor is a decent laner, he can always trade with you if he hits every pain battery. low killing potential but should be able to tie each lane
>>565735648>paradoxWhy?
>>565737494they keep saying he's shit, he's F tier, his winrate is so bad!and yet i keep frying.
>Against Sinclair & Geist>Getting bombarded 24/7 with missles auto attacks and bolts>Go to base twice with 80 hp>Play super back build my comfy (regen + rounds)>Farm safely while doing box routes and tier 1+2s>Win by pushing and helping run urnsLIFE IS GOOD
>>565737494I'm surprised Celeste and Holliday aren't F Tier
>>565737494>what the fuck happened to melee character whose melee got nerfed so now he has to rely on his dogshit spread gun
>>565737776>Celeste and HollidayEternus players of these characters will at least know movement. There is literally nothing more useless than a Celeste/Holliday that don't know movement
>>565737708He's my highest winrate that's why it confuses me so much.
>>565711728Ive been getting more games where everyone will drop anything they are doing and run to do a failed urn fight then it snowballs into a loss.>Push lane?>No, everyone screams to come to urn>We have jungle up?>Stop doing it and come die for the urn so the enemy can clean it up when we are respawningFuck esport streaming niggers for brainwashing everyone thinking urn is the most important thing in game currently
Why did they blow off Graves kneecaps again?
>>565735953okay still makes it harder for him to catch you and your other teammates
AMAZING TEAM FULL OF SUBHUMAN FUCKING FAGGOT NIGGERS I HOPE THEY HAVE CUTE LITTLE DAUGHTERS THAT GET KIDNAPPED BY CARTEL AND HACKED AND RAPED TO DEATH FUCKING NIGGER SUBHUMAN FAGGOTS HOW DO THESE NIGGERS EVEN BREATHE?
>Start winning more than losing now that I stopped comming/speaking and making calls in voiceIf it ain't broke.....
>>565737494His playerbase is actually retarded, dudes still great and his wr will climb as less people pick him. He's a solid m1 and Is quite literally Male Mina in that vast majority are bad but the hero slaps also he's extremely popular.
>>565738358I cannot control my tone so if I'm in a bad mood I sound upset, for this reason I don't use VC since Americans get really angsty over it.
>>565738358I turned off voice and text comms altogether and my winrate went up
>>565737675Anyone sounds like a decent laner if you highlight only their strengths. Obviously no laner is bad enough to literally just stand afk and lose 100% of the time, it's weighing pros and cons and comparing with other characters. Victor can't really do anything but trade with 1 and dive tower with ult.Every time I think of someone that might be worse like Infernus, I remember Infernus at bare minimum has better wave clear and mobility and I just can't imagine wanting to be Victor over Infernus in basically any lane just because I can burst pain battery every 30 seconds.
>>565735171There aren't because the match doesn't last forever, dummy. You can realistically take every walker and you will do so if you're winning, which you will be if you take the damn urn
>>565737676her base bullet damage is overnerfed right nowshe used to be pretty good in lane and you can kinda see it with carbine/bomb but when it comes down to it her burstfire rifle is really fucking bad now
Deadlock is the only comp game that doesn't give me ladder anxiety. I literally get shivers queuing up counter-strike, but Deadlock games are just fun win or lose.
>>565737676her kit is abysmal for laning
>>565738946that's probably because it's not out yet and the ranks are completely meaningless
>>565738946I get queue anxiety in Deadlock. I'll spend hours making builds and fucking around in sandbox, then go into one match, get my anus blown out, and exit the gameAdd PVE
You guys are down bad for an hourglass with big tits and ass?
>>565739187Yes.
>>565739187No. I just find her entire design and concept cool. Also she's normal-sized.
>>565736236Holliday is actually quite good get Extra Charge and you can spam barrels pretty easily plus thats the only time Crackshot will actually do anything afterwards she falls off extremely hard
>>565739187Hehehe Hourglass hourglass
>>565738358How does she even put her jeans on anyway
>>565739462normally and just pull the tail out the end
>>565739462I assume since she only wears the same pair of ripped jeans everyday, she made a special hole for her tail
>>565729817she's a contender for #1 hero what more do you want
Does anyone still push past your teams advantage line with a huge bag(1k+)? It's a really bad habit I have but am rarely punished for it.
>>565739462I assume you start with pulling the tail through the hole and then just pull the pants up normally.
brawl is filled with seething retards tonight holy hell
>>565734894only viable build is splatter which is probably the most boring playstyle in the game
i swear i have not seen a mcginnes be useful in forever
>>565739819>Mina>#1 heronigga who are you kidding
>>565740036ginnis in my games usually just camp a lane and never leaveit's kind of comforting knowing you don't have to worry about one lane but their ult is too strong to be kept away from fights that much
How do I even read this guide?I don't have enough slots?Is gun path completely optional?
>>565737494only obligate gun only m1gger gets hit way harder by gun nerfs than every other m1gger that builds shitloads of spirit anywaythat said he's still good
>>565737494Only gun character that can't pivot into ricochet debuff spam
>>565740041are you trolling, I don't even hate mina just curious what metric you're looking at that makes you think she's not a top hero
>>565740145unfortunately she isnt even strong enough to handle solo enemies going to go kill herenemy vyper can just roll up and brrrt her even with a turret fortress, or gun build, or whatever
>top victor player reccomends against building any spirit because it causes his aura to hurt yourself morekek
>>565739187>with big tits and ass?yes
>>565740670is it zerial
>gun doorman... LE BAD
>>565741316do you need a mod to see the lobby rank?
>>565741404No
>>565741316>gun doorman... LE BAD
>play one match>immediately addicteduh oh
>>565738047yeah i don't know. people who play him feel he's strong, he's considered a priority pick in comp, and must have some kind of internal data to justify nerfing him againcrazy how shit the public winrate stats are in spite of all of that
>>565740670He's not wrong when the meta is gun victor
>>565740181>it's been 30 minutes and I'm still in the queueYeah idk guys. I don't understand how are there 5k matches atm.
>finally play good in a match>teammates manage to throw the gameit's not fair :(
>>565741973Where is your glass cannon?
>>565733148>>565733514>>565735069When you're sacrificing a walker that lane will passively get pushed in, you have less access to your farm, and lost an advantage in team fights in that lane (whether that be the ability to retreat or Walker dps). Maybe in the very late game when people can solo shred walkers it's worth sacrificing for urn, but the majority of the game it's genuinely not worth what you've lost.I get you watched a Youtube short about how valuable the urn is, but seriously, it's a tower defense game first and foremost. Sacrificing a walker for urn is basically griefing in most cases. Anyone above Seeker will tell you it's higher priority for a majority of the match.
is punch Viscous viable early/mid game? then shift into splatter or full cube support cuck if needed at late game?
>>565742317>is punch Viscous viable early/mid game?If you are going up against a bunch of retards then yes, but as soon as somebody just buys rebuttal or knows how to parry you are fucked. Better to just spec into your splatter
>IN HERE, I AM KING!>*dies*
>>565742095cont.Also why tf are you even sacrificing walker to give an edge in delivering the urn?>wave is behind urn pickupClear one or two waves on your way, throw some splash damage to weaken the minions at a distance before picking up urn, or shoot the hyperline troopers to slow down their arrival.>wave is pushed back on urn deliveryWhy are you delivering the urn into enemy territory? If the enemy is three down and it's safe then you don't need to literally sacrifice a walker lolI want to know what rank this works, even Archon players won't give you the chance.
>banned for a weekdo i just make a smurf account at this point
>>565742071would that have made a big difference?
>>565743070how does this even happen
Kek i love how people here cry about mina all the time. She got indirectly buffed so hard and I cant' stop winning on her, even more so than beforeHer winrate finally is at 50%+ from 45% and people here believe that she is the problem. Gun heroes were running the meta and now that there finally is some balance between gun and spirit, tears just can't stop flowing. She only feels op because good players gravitate towards her, yet whenever someone else gets her in my team, they almost always don't have as high of an impact as mina's potential allows.I don't see why people cry about her so much when in most cases she is an non issue
>>565743337Kill yourself Mina up-playing tranny.Literally a falseflag from an anti-Mina faggot with too much time on his hands.Get a fucking job you subhuman third worlder.
>>565734894Eternus players were unwilling to counter play or counter buy against Viscous, who has one of the more clear cut flowcharts in the game, so Yoshi threw them a bone and nerfed every aspect of his kit, even down to urn runs. You see, if you're med mmr, you're supposed to just learn the game the hard way and deal with absolute bullshit. But if you're Eternus and you find a character subjectively annoying (even if fair to fight against and below 50% winrate) then they get absolutely gutted.Enjoy the game's balancing philosophy, there's more where that came from.
>>565743170I got 1 week for abandoning due to lag before I figured out Windows installed the wrong wifi driver
>leave blue to gank a side lane>fail, but their tower is low>stick around 0.5 seconds longer with the intent to possibly towerdive/take tower>someone starts screaming at me over vc to get the fuck out of their lanewhat attracts these people to this genre
>>565743487Resolve your mental issues and come back then
>>565743867They're right. You are ruining their farm.
>>565743170had to play a low prio match where a smurf duo got fed as fuck from feeders in another lane and when i got them in my next game i just dippedthat was apparently worthy of a week ban
Why are Celeste players asking for their ult refund back like 90% of the other heroes in the game can't also completely whiff their ult and waste it?
>>565744032too bad sissy. lane phase is over, we're taking the tower.
>>565744086Celeste is nothing but an ult bot now
>>565743070I got two low prio games and made a new account lel
>4 stamina+ bucket 1Why?
>>565744526>bucket 1Is that good or bad?
>>565742095Deathy literally says urn is more important than walker in his video. I'm ascendant (above seeker) and i'm telling you the urn is the most important objective after midboss
My ELO has climbed to high and now if I play with my friends they get dragged to ranks they just feed at.I try to give them build advice and they just ignore me.I haven't had fun playing with them in over a week.
>>565744086Celeste players miss their free wins, it's like Haze players complaining they can't just press 4 to instawin a teamfight.
Does people leaving the match and it giving the option to abandon count against you as far as the rank stuff goes?
>>565736497>>565735236>>565734992Another thing about the urn is that yes, its a risk, but its one of the most impactful things you can do as a single player to win the game. If you're playing a position 5-6 character or even a pos 4, anyone who doesn't want to stand in lane all game you should be taking urn and trying to do it. Is it a gamble? Maybe. Your teammates are shit and won't help you? Maybe. But you need to take risks. You need to go for these plays because that's how you improve as a player, that's how you climb. Delivering the urn WILL make you win more games, and even if you don't deliver you are actively messing with their entire team just by taking it. You obviously shouldn't just bumrush it with no plan, nobody on the map and give it for free, but you NEED to try. If you don't try to go for big things you will never improve.
>>565745751It doesIf it happens early enough in the match, the game will tell you it wont be ranked
>>565742095>>565742991>When you're sacrificing a walker that lane will passively get pushed in?it can be actively shoved in deeper but the only trooper-specific buffs are granted by breaking shrines, soul diff (!), or when they actually get into your baseand yeah no shit losing a tower cedes map control. the idea is that you are getting equal or greater value out of the counter play you're making. like winning an urn fight while someone on their team is splitting for your walker. it's a trade, one where you get more souls than they do, and you have opportunities to take that W and turn it into a walker>even archon players won't give you the chance>archon players>doing literally fucking anythinglmao come on now
Any metaslave player deserves to have their daughter assraped to death and chopped to pieces.
I just got deranked without even playing for 2 two days. This game truly is a job.
>>565746581dynahomos seething
I think complaining about parrying is a sign of inability to take accountability that you were too predictable and got read.
>>565746661I feel like the game has been being deranking people aggressively lately. I know right now I can win games and my rank doesn't budge but when I lose I'll plummet multiple divisions. I think Yoshi is trying to tell me something but whatever.
>>565746901nooooo you don't understand I'm oracle V everyone scripts here EVERYONE like 90% bro you don't get it ok. You are the parry schizo btw not me
>>565746901Pro fighting game players couldn't reliably parry 1 frame startup attacks even if you gave them all the time in the world to study their opponents' playstyle. Literally nobody reads light melees in this game. It's luck 99% of the time. I'm not kidding. Parries and heavy melee should just be removed, it's early enough in the game's life and nobody will miss it after 3 months.
Refresher is a bait item on dynamo but dlg isnt ready for that conversation.
>>565747253The conversation is pointless because dynamo is so op he can buy whatever he wants and still contribute a shitload.
>>565737494okay so basically it's not fun getting raped by le pure damage so they had to nerf him
>>565747404dynamo can buy literally zero items and still land a game winning ult
>>565747253>isnt ready for that conversation.I feel like you're saying "I know what I'm saying is dumb and I'm going to get called out, so I'm going to get out ahead of that"
>>565747186>I DIDN'T GET READ, YOU JUST GOT LUCKY>THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A READPFFFFFT AHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAThis shit is why nobody takes meleeniggers seriously.
>>565738331but bro metro said the matchmaking was fixed so it just is ok?translator's note: he won 2 games in a row so the game is working again
>>565747580as opposed to i lost two games in a row so matchmaking is broke?oh, /dlg/...
>>565747186There's too many melee based heroes at this point to remove it entirely. The melee/parry system could really use an overhaul though.A bandaid of getting parried not stunning for so long, or not having damage amp would be nice at least.
SOMEBODY ORDER A COCK?
Are full spirit and gun rem good enough to justify him eating ALL the sinners?
>>565707748Calm down Mina!
>>565747705https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=lash_pain_death_02.mp3
parry schizo's ranting is annoying but I lowkirkuenly agree that it's kind of lame that getting parried once = you lose the lane
>>565745034>urn is more important than walkerDepends on timestamp and it needs to be significantly more valuable. Again, if you lose Walker, you lose more than just its soul bounty. Also Deathy is Eternus 6. Anything below you have a 0/6 Seven cutting waves to "sacrifice walker for urn", getting jumped in the most predictable way possible.You're also thinking too much about its soul value. At a certain skill level urn is primarily a mechanic for forcing fights, not the inherent bounty itself because the enemy is never going to give it to you for free. In other words you deliver urn when you know you'll win that fight, you have a desirable macro, or that you'll successfully waste their time. Not so you can get a net +1,900 soul profit at 20 mins at the cost of your blue walker, facilitating the enemy's ability to put pressure and getting mid for "zomg a t2 item split across the whole team!!!">>565746174>like winning an urn fight while someone on their team is splitting for your walker.If it's a mostly ensured winning team fight and you can actually down a few enemies, you can make it worth the sacrifice. That's a situational call and whether it's a good idea or not depends on proximity, who's up, etc. It's not generic one liner advice.>archon players doing literally fucking anythingArchon to Phantom is the same rank, the only difference is their mental.
>>565742556Kevin needs buffs.
>>565747793https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=lash_pain_small_06.mp3
>>565726236>support + carry in lane>post 10 minutes>the support is still in the sidelane while the carry decided to roam because the fuckass support doesn't want to leaveIt's me. I'm the fucking carry.
>>565747913dome should be able to proc lighting scroll
>>565748056On allies.
>>565746901for me it stems from three points1. there are undeniably people abusing parry bots and spoiling an already heavily controversial mechanic2. melee is incredibly gimped and largely serves as a meme build or supplement for when you run out of ammo/cooldowns3. the network is so ass and unstable that your results when parrying manually are wildly inconsistent and oftentimes more of a detrimentit's honestly not even worth using when there are so many things that can go wrong, most of which are completely out of your control
>>565738486Such is the fate of all secondarybait charactersMina, Venator, Silver, RemPaige gets away with it because she's so easy to perform with
>>565748131lightning scroll dome should allow every ally inside to apply their own individual stun to enemies. fixed.
>>565747550You're being the meleenigger by suggesting parrying is an expression of skill and not dumb luck. I'm literally arguing the entire thing should just be removed and turned into a basic "light melee to do a little extra damage when out of ammo" like Overwatch.>>565747683Short term yes light melee stuns should be tiny slaps on the wrist and not guaranteed death. But long term I don't think there's that many heroes that rely on melee "mindgames" to function, and those that do could easily be reworked. There's still characters in this game with kits untouched from the Neon Prime days. There's plenty of work to be done on kit design, I would be a-okay with characters like Billy being overhauled if it means parryslop can be removed permanently.
>plated armor>see that it blocks on hit>read through all the interactions>Mirage Djinn's Mark: Always applied>mfwFuck this faggot character and whoever designed him
>>565737494How is Warden A tier genuinely
>>565748131Granting them unstoppable for 10s>>565748462Face him and die
>>565748462Max 3 + Range + Slowing bullets
So fucking unfair.> Finally out of alchemist> It skips me right to Arcanist 2> Get a team with two feed-and-leavers> Immediately demoted> Get next game where other team has three people who are 0-15 and my team loses> Demoted again> Get next game with a 0-15 Graves, 0-15 Victor, 0-15 Celeste, 2-13 Viscous, 0-10 Doorman> Demoted to Seeker 6
>>565748462his cage is op
The world hates you, Lash, for when they gaze upon you, they realize all that they can never achieve. But soon, your critics will be silenced.
>>565748462Never show fear, no matter the odds!
>>565737494Venator is really good but he needs peel. He's good in pro play because people peel for him. He keeps getting nerfed because pro players call him OP. He drops in ladder play because people don't peel for him there.>>565748462Permanently strong because of maxed 3.
>>565748257>all secondarybait characters>Minathat's funnynigger I probably fucking had an alpha invite before you fucking did, I was in it the day after it was "publicly available". I just barely touched the game until the Mina & Frends update because until then their design philosophy was full of hideous Concord tier DEI shit and Haze was still a nigger back then. I'm not a slop swallowing literal tranny. NO ONE should have been even bothering touching this game before the Mina/Victor/Paige patch so it's funny that all three are "secondarybait".
>>565748558You lost two games and were demoted 8 ranks? I'm not fuckin touching this game until people confirm this volatile rank up/rank down shit isn't happening anymore.
>>565748684what the fuck are you talking about
>>565748684HOLY BASED
THE CITY WILL KNOW MY BRILLIANCE
>>565748779NTA and I will for sure confirm what he's saying ranks are fucking brutal right now. Yoshi is doing his best to demote everyone.
>>565748684Holy defensive reflex batman!Nobody called you a secondary, you just happen to like a character popular with secondaries. It's like how pros perform great with Silver despite her actual fanbase being convinced she's bottom 3 and in desperate need of buffs. Though on the other hand "I only started playing because this character is hot" is literally secondary logic so maybe you ARE one?
>muh deiNo one cares you dumb white monkey. dilate elbow to wrist
>none of my feedback is getting viewsBros... should I stop giving them my feedback?
WAAAAAH STOP YOU HAVE TO LIKE THE BROWN CHARACTERS OR ITS FRICKEN WAAAACIST
How can I improve my aim? There are a lot of characters in this game I'd like to play but my aim is very bad and this puts me at a severe disadvantage.
>>565749186Play Graves or install aimhacks. There's no other option really. Aim training tools like kovaaks/aimlabs are a scam, but also mindlessly playing games doesn't work either. You either have aim or you don't and you just don't.
idc if you're wacist, you should bleed yourself out for being an annoying white monkey
>>565749186Play those characters a lot and make a concerted effort to improve, or grind an aimtrainer.
>>565749186just spam haze
>>565748462His kit is incredibly boring but generically strong>One of the best guns in the game>1 is a spammable debuff with a longer duration than its own cooldown>2 lets you be one of the fastest characters in the game outside of teleports and dashes>3 is a 16 second cooldown silence and immobilize that boosts your already good gun damage>4 makes you almost immortal in its durationHe's one of the most powerful characters in the game and the only reason people don't play him more is because his abilities are really dull and his model is a placeholder.
>>565749285>idc if you're wacistlmao sure cry more
>>565749186play an aim trainer then realize you're wasting your time because every gun in this game is a projectile so none of the hitscan practice you just did translates at all
>>565749368If your aim really is dogshit playing for 30-60 minutes daily for a few weeks should help but yeah, you should drop aim trainers as quick as possible
>>565749186>severe disadvantageThis game has ranked matchmaking. If your aim is really terrible, you'll be placed in a rank where it doesn't matter that much.
>>565749359I'll weep tears of joy when you eventually bust your tiny white head open you depressed poor fag
guys a black woman is talking listen and learn
>>565749285>ACKshully, WHITE people are the MONKEYS! they're.... WHITE MONKEYS!>I don't care if you're racist, but ACKshully you're the monkeys>>albino africans.jpeg>>565749582yo everyone this guy is BROWN
>>565749368It does translate to a degree, raw aim/tracking and the ability to compensate for travel time are separate skills but you still need both to be effective.
>>565749639>learnhow not to act?
>>565737708>>565738047i think he genuinely his takes a lot of skill to get used to himhitting his wall stun and ult consistently is can be hard and something that is often overlooked but integral to your success is knowing proper beartrap placement to hit more than 1 trap per game
>>565749640lol whitey is pigging out
>>565749186do you have enough desk space to play 30-45cm/360? (how many centimeters for a full 360 rotation), and do you have a mousepad and a proper gayming mouse that doesn't spin out when flicking fast? if you've got all that then use a sensitivity around the aforementioned range (you have to use your arm for large motions, a proper sensitivity uses all 3 groups arm wrist and fingers). at close range focus on the target when aiming. at longer range you can focus on both crosshair and target. don't use a massive obscuring crosshair, use the smallest your eyes can handle, not distracting but also doesn't fade away if not fully focused at. most importantly, learn to use arm wrist and fingers all 3 are necessary at different situations in aiming, and don't tense up (excessively at least)
deadlock?
they should add divine RAPIRA to this game
>>565749880is a pozzed DEI game so these conversations are bound to happen
>>565749939sweetbaby inc really has its claws deep in deadcock...
sexlock
>>565749831hmmmmmm... nyo~
>>565749880>/dlg/ - daddy's little girl general
Valve should add horses to deadlock.
>>565750020>fat dudeThe original image says fat nigga, in this case it should be fat iggaArtist is a coward and white
>>565749985wasn't it confirmed that sweetbaby went around saying "VALVE IS OUR CLIENT GUYS VALVE HIRED US" when all that happened was like, they exchanged some emails
>there is a doorman in my game>he rushes vortex web, fortitude, cheat deathwhy is every single person who plays this character so fucking predictable
Whose dick do I gotta suck for 20 consecutive games where Dynamo and Warden aren't in them
>>565750103>people buy the items that are good on the characterstop the pressesnext you're going to tell me that geists keep buying berserker
>gun geistnobody tell him...
>join match>big streamer on team>go the most experimental build in the history of deadlock>do nothing>get flamed in front of hundreds of viewersworks everytime
>>565750096I think they were consulted more in the Neon Prime days, which would explain a lot about how that game looked.
>>565750402yeah but frankly I don't even buy things went that far. What I do buy, is that sweetbaby is overselling their relationship with valve.maybe neon prime looked like shit just because it looked like shit
Is there a point for having this on?Is there a separate queue for sweats?Or do you not get any MMR if you play without it?
>>565750481its placebo like the "avoid hero" option is placebo
>>565750103Unless you're one of 5 people actually good at this build it just draws games out way longer as the team without the Doorman has to play extremely cautiously, unless they're terrible at kidnapping guys and just get run over for an easy win.
>>565750481It will try to find people that also use the option but so few people do that it's just a button to make your queue take longer.
>>565750481It just shows your rank. Standard is ranked mode.
>team kills rem in blue lane right as our sinners spawn>see him show in lane again for the wave>start rotating to our doubles>see him and kill him>tells me im a dick and he hopes i kill myself>hear him invading our jungle a few minutes later taking our basement camp for some retarded reason>kill him, pause the game>asks me why i'm toxicrem xisters...
>>565743337yea the 53% pickrate really goes to show how she just attracts the best of the best lmaomina's fun but it's delusional to pretend she's not on the chopping block with gun out of the picture
>>565750020Apollo should've been full-on trap/femboy
>>565749368aim trainers just make you better at mouse control in general, the reason it's not worth it is that it takes thousands of hours of awful grind to actually become competent. Wasting your life playing games is one thing, grinding aim trainers to get better at them is on another level altogether, most people don't have the combination of debilitating autism and severe ego issues required to do it
>>565750020>Damn...I should've been loving a fat dudemore like ESL lock. What the fuck kind of sense is that supposed to make?
>>565750402It is truly one of the ugliest games ever made and it's a tragedy that some of its poison seeped into Deadlock with everyone being gay and ethnic for no reason.
>>565750085you may find this weird, but I'm white and I have no issue saying "nigger"
>alt-tab during queue>freeze when i get into a match and have to restartis this an exciting new bug?
>>565749281holy copeyou think we have a genetic aim level? you're born with an accuracy rating? nigga we can't even THROW shit accurately when we're born, and that's one of the things responsible for humanity's dominance>>565749186aiming is a skill. literally just dedicate practice to it and you will improve>how do i practiceeither play a fuck ton with aiming as your explicit focus or use a dedicated aim trainer and play actually challenging playlists. maximize reps and maximize error rate. if you don't feel at least a little pissed off, you're probably doing it wrong. if you play some retarded giant 3x3 ego-stroking piano retardation you're not going to get anything out of italso lower your sensthe higher your sens, the higher the magnitude of your errors
>>565751308It's a [B]lack meme. "Should have been" being past tense is meant to indicate the woman (in the original meme) believes she should have pursued relationships with fat niggas even sooner than she ultimately did.>shut up nigger I didn't want to know what the niggers on twitter are doing!Too bad lol
>>565748684you're a faggot secondary lol
>>565751556oh I get it so it's like "damn nigga i shoulda BEEEEN lubbin a fat nigga on god homie for real and dat's CHURCH nigga"too bad ebonics doesn't write well
>>565751308it makes perfect sense if you ever actually encountered native english speakers
>>565751710you're not allowed to use that word your discord server wouldn't approve of you using that word
>>565751854projecting secondary faggot
so we're in unanimous agreement celeste is the most trannycoded character in this game, yes?
>>565751153>check the profile of this one famous aim coach in kovaaks>4k hours in kovaaks>check his cs stats>they're dogshitThis made me realize I could be playing actual video games instead of clicking circles and I dropped it completely
>>565751762Yep you got it, took me a while to figure it out too
>holliday doing the faggiest movement tech.. staying in the air for like 30 seconds.. corner booeting all that shit>ask if he's a trannynow im banned from talking until friday..
>>565752453How do you even know what a corner boost is, are you a tranny?
>>565752515concession accepted..
>>565752269It's definitely Silver, furry, most popular with troons, "hot mess" in bio (trannies often describe themselves as "hot messes" or "trash goblins" or similar), literal TRANSformation hero. Then it's Pocket for being a literal nonbiney chiney. Then maybe Celeste for the color palette and flat chest but even then the voice is too feminine and trannies aren't athletic.
>>565752515>instantly gets defensive about troon movementyou were the tranny holliday, weren't you homo
I enjoy the current kelvin power level and I don't even play him
>start match>"oooh, this item will be good against this hero, for this one it's this item"im going to make it bros...we will counter them all...
>>565752650>Abrams confirmed chasergod i love this fvcking hero
>>565746060No, not at my rank. Running the urn is a 100% guarantee the entire enemy team will show up and your team will do nothing, or worse than nothing, chase and feed 5 more kills afterwards for no reason. It's better to wait for everyone to get involved in something stupid and then solo push.
>>565752650>trannies aren't athletic.uhh have you seen the controversy over trannies competing in women's sports
>>565752650Silver is the least tranny hero on account of how hard trannies are trying to "claim" her.
>>565752956If you know troovement, you're a tranny. It's quite simple
>>565752423honestly that's cringe as fuck anyway
>>565753154You understand that these are all men who failed in the male divisions and transitioned because they knew by mere virtue of being male they would dominate the female divisions right
>>565753312of course but they still play sports and stuff. You could almost say trannies love playing sports because they know they have the testosterone advantage.
>>565753165>tranny's most favorite character is the least trannyOdd metric but I guess that makes Abrams and Venator the most heterosexual characters so I guess I can cosign.
>Trannies try to claim every character is trans>Tranny haters also try to claim every character is trans instead of telling them to fuck off and kill themselvesWhat the fuck happened? Is this some kind of shitty psyop, or did you all really just throw in the towel against some of the the most pathetic "people" in existence?
>>565753493what happened is that if you enjoy silver you're a tranny and it's just that simple, tranny
>>565753442Trannies always try to poison and corrupt anything straight white people enjoy as they are an extension of judaic tikkun olamism.
I think you guys pay too much attention to what retards think about characters. If you're being exposed to these opinions in the first place, you need to adjust how you interact with the internet. I had no idea these perceptions existed about any of these characters.
>open build tab for silver>SMELLS LIKE WOLF GIRL IN HERE>DOMMY MOMMY WEREWOLF MELEE SILVER>FERAL FDOM ALPHA WITH A WOLFCUT>Evil Transfem Lesbian Werewolf>not a tranny herohey alright. and thanks
>>565753493tbqh anon asked which was most "tranny coded" so the thought experiment is to explore that
>>565753493The """tranny haters""" that concede every tranny claim are actually falseflagging or, worse, closeted trannies.
'eded to bloo
>>565753693>>565753493Honestly it's just funny to watch you seethe
>>565753612there's nothing wrong with dom moms
>>565753812Headed to bloo!!
You do get more money if your teammates leaves right? Just like in warcraft and dota?
>Holiday>Hero's entire gimmick is getting increased air control from bounce pads>Anon sees Holiday using her core gimmick>AHHHHH TRANNY??? FUCKING TRANNY??? IM GOING INSANE ONLY A TRANNY WOULD STAY IN THE AIR WITH HIS IMPROVED AIR CONTROL REEEEEEEEEEE TRANNIESSeekertard brains are fascinating
>>565754110the point is that only trannies and autistic-eventual trannies want to play an ugly as fuck dogshit ambiguously female cowboy character whose entire kit is incongruous bounce pads
>Dynamo and lash on enemy teamFuck this game
>>565754427>not banning dynamoyou literally asked for this loss
>>565754427>lash on my team>dynamo on enemy team>lash ults dynamo and throws him into my team so he can black hole
>>565753612>tfw use the THICK THIGHS SWAP MOMMY buildParadoxisters... not like this...i'm not ready to be a womyns
>>565754617bro that doesn't do anything I have dynamo permabanned and I go up against him 3 out of 4 matches
>>565754742>bans bebop/sinclair/gravesshits so fake, no one bans these niggers
Mina's thighs are thickers anyway
AIIIIIEEEEEEE THE GAME IS DYING AGAIN ITS ONLY PEAKING AT 80K IN THE WEEKENDS NOWWHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEXT MAJOR UPDATE
>>565755075abrams and celeste buffs on the way!
>>565755075two more months lil gup
>>565754858I mean all matchmaking is just an algorithm, it will seek the path of least resistance so if some dipshit has graves banned it will just ban that so it can form a match more quickly. That's why banning the OP metacancer is futile, everyone has it selected, so it will add someone who has it selected while cherry-picking some obscure ban.
>>565755075im surprised were still doing 80k remember when we were only doing like 15k-20k lmao
>>565755171Im gonna be so sad when Krill gets redesigned. I actually like his look.
>>565755372who says our boy is getting redesigned mang
I tried out Warden. He's strong, but I don't like the build inflexibility he has. There are a lot of items that are really strong on this hero and not building them would be griefing.
>>565755075the game IS deadit's all zoomer esportsfags, literal tranny streamers like eskayit went mainstream in the worst possible way
>tfw dropped down 2 ranks because i lost an emissary lobbyit's not my fault pisslow shitters do not know how to play this game
>>565755496Dont worry the chink and slav chuds will takeover once it releases
>>565754617Banning a hero just makes you lane again them
paradox wears a mask because they are a trans woman
>>565754110Holliday is one of the most dishonest fucking heroes in the entire game.I can't believe I ever thought this hero was honest until I actually played her.
>>565755910it's a floating glass bulb
>OMG TIME THIEF ROBINHOOD>is actually just a rich white woman bored ouf of her mindParadoxbros...
>>565754110Holliday players are definitely trannies though.
paradox wears a mask because they're a filler character
>>565755490Warden has good excuses for picking up all sorts of items. Way more flexible than someone like Wraith.
>>565754087I think so, yeah. Makes it really annoying when some deadweight leaves the match and instead of trying to make a comeback with more income the seven or wraith also leave.
Just looked at old videos from 2024.I understand 4 lanes sucked but I loved the old map so much.
>>565756098>does it for the love of the gamethat just makes it better anon
>>565756371The old map had some glaring flaws but there's some bits I really loved.I am the only guy that liked the zipline rails and think it's a big mistake removing them.
>>565755496That's honestly just been gaming as a whole, the hobby has always been on the decline and it's entering a new low
>>565755490warden is the most versatile m1 in the gameglass cannon is much more of a must buy than merc mag is for gun build
>>565748462high velocity rounds > opening rounds was a stealth buff to him along with trophy collector stacksalso he got no nerfs this patch
>>565756440I loved the bright lighting, all the removed nooks and crannies of the underground and tunnels that led to other lanes. It also seems to be bigger and more open than now.I also miss the slimy texture all the alpha models had.
>>565755269honestly, it is interesting to see valve do a classic incremental growth of the stable playerbase for this.you'd think more AAA corporations would slow burn live service slop instead of blow their load and have shit die asap
>>565757493I miss all the little places you could hide in before, there's like three veils that actually trick people now and they're all in big open areas so it's nearly impossible to successfully hide in them
Deh dahkniss comes foh you
wraith might be one of the most annoying characters
>>565753976trvke
Ult Seven build works well in high elo I see....
>>565716252Don't get close.Buy metal skin.How do you counter someone shooting you in the head?
Why are hyper carries strong early and late game?
I'm on a losing streak
>grey talon and graves banThis shit is rigged nobody is banning this shit.
>>565758831>Mirage Kelvin Nigfernus Dynamo Doorman got through the bans again:(
>>565749339>almost immortallol, yeah not really. a lot of people do not care about your ult
>>565758795But did you have fun even though you lost?
>>565758654You just don't understand, this kind of balance totally makes sense to full time moba players and maxed rank people. These devs are balance GODS and you can't say that their perfect game genre has ANY flaws
>>565758795I haven't played the game since February when I went 1/11/5 and my duo went 1/18/0 and I got bitched out by an autistic Holliday player (they probably transitioned by now).
>seeker and low alchemist>people buy knockdowns and occasionally curses even>ritualist and emissary>no one ever buys themI know they are all braindead shitlow ranks and I'm a part of it but what causes this?
>>565757495Bro Deadlock has been in development for like half a decade now maybe more and the two years its been in alpha playtest valve has made zero money for itThere is no world another aaa dev could do this without steam backing them upIf this was EA or something Deadlock wpuld have gotten shutdown back in mid 2025
Oh great I'm about to play a 4v6
>>565759138because people get put into oracle/archon as new players and they eventually rank down
>>565759165>metaslave playing braindead nigger heroesdeserved
>>565759138It's actually just pure chaos. The game is unplayable until at best oracle.
>>565758959>NTA but 90% of the time, hell no. It's all one sided shit fest.People will blame match making, I blame bad balance that promotes unwinnable shit fests.
>>565759138>>seeker and low alchemist, people buy knockdowns and occasionally curses>people who get ranked anxiety and watched 10 hours of videos in preparation to but get flustered and cannot actually execute in practice>>ritualist and emissary, no one ever buys them>literal retard unga bungas who don't care about game theory or optimal builds and couldn't care less so they don't get psyched out but only play at a braindead level of function
>>565758907The reason Warden's die in their ult so often is because they stupidly pop it when they're already almost dead so it can't do much to save them.So they survive in the channeling period where they have 80% damage resistance, and then when the ability is up and they lose the resistances they get focus fired and killed.Which is why its SO common for a warden to say their ult voiceline and then flop over pathetically.
>dogshit update>dogshit balance patch x4>but they returned the BASED old icons!!!!!this game has turned into hot garbage due to neglect. if we just ignore the problems they'll go away! luckily for valve moba players are not ensouled so they'll never notice regardless.
>>565730663use build 283759 max rake first than her dash after two points in ult, if teams are super one sided just report someone for smurfing that's doing really well and you get easier games. If you can't time her invuln frames or aim enough to proc lb with a stable connection there's no saving you and just accept you are a sissy mina who is dumb and cute going 1/14/6.
BRINGBACKSLORK
>>565760178BASED
>>565760178>>565760207i just want to be a lurking invisible nigga
>>565760448It's a 3200 now so it may actually be good!
>>565760448While I do like Slork, I hope one day we do get The Invisible Man as a character, always a peak aestheticAn ult that makes teammates invisible would be pretty cool
>>565760178Give him a rework a decent model and put him in!>"The surface dwellers named me Fathom. But the denizens of the deep know me by a different name"Release the Slork! And give him and Viscous dialogue where Viscous calls him by his real name. I can imagine some now."Thank you for helping me Slork.""I am only helping you so that I may destroy the Adversary and take my rightful place as the strongest hunter in the deep."or something along those lines.
>>565760676>ability to go invisible>he just strips>lines about being naked
>>565760676>>565761001Should be an Invisible Woman instead. Still dressed like this though,
>>565761001>dialogue with celeste where she says he should join the freakshow>dialogue with drifter where he assumes he's a serial killer as a reference to the original invisible man being a killer>dialogue with haze where she tries REALLY hard to get him to work as an OSIC assassin>running gag in dialogue with any character where he's depressed people don't notice himIt would be so peak it hurts
>>565760448>i just want to be a lurking invisible nigga
>>565757495>just burn money on a game that might completely flop for years and years on end bronot happening in a just world deadcock would have already been cancelled it's pretty ass
>have 5 damage items including glass cannon on venator>bebop with weighted shots and 2 firerate items has just 2 less dps before his uppercut buff>while also having 1700 more healthcool balance
I tried out echo shard mcg wallHoly fuck its stupid but funny as hell microwaving people with a sea of turretsI killed a farmed Infernus and Yam 4 times with it
Slork had the kino grappling hook.Just bring that back because it was hilarious snapping to a wall to escape.
game is too snowbally, you either win or lose by a 50k+ lead and the other team can't do shit because everyone's 10k ahead of the rest.
>>565761730I don't understand why its not more commonYeah, its hard to get an echo shard, and yeah turrets aren't that crazy, but I don't think there's a single character in this game that wouldn't be atleast a little perturbed by having 4 turrets shat upon them instantly
>>565759895>buy mystic burst>rush to enemy jungle>kill all 3 instantlyhehehe
>>565761670sir just oneshot him with your ult
>>565761904early game sucks, but once you get online it was kinda goodcornering them in 2 walls and hitting them with mystic slow+slowing hex they are done, and its two heroes that love running into people
>seven hit 50k souls at min 25>farms for another 10 minsthanks fatty!
>>565761791That wouldnt be a problem if the soul lead didnt translate to raw stats. It's just too big of a difference. In dota 2 you can win a fight with only 2/3 of their money. Not likely but it's extremely doable. In this that's like a 5% chance of happening because the items not only have effects and actives but give you shit tons of stats
Dogshit faggot troon game where puppy girl troons feed nonstop! Thank you for combining ranked and casual
>>565761981fuck... I guess the lane is lost... I have no choice but to buy golden goose egg...
>got carried by a damage doorman and holliday todayi kneel..........
i must be a drooling retard because people say mina is supposed to be a crazy fast jungler but when i try to do it it's not nearly as fast as someone like infernus or sevencan someone explain how you're supposed to jungle as mina?
>>565762547monster rounds, reload/ammo item, rake them when low
>>565762547are ya rake'n son?
>>565762547ohhh I'm raking it so hard right now
>play carry>get to push buttons and do things>play support>nothing feels impactfulwhat causes this? is this a moba thing? medic in tf2 is fun but paige and rem are lame as shit
>>565762771>what causes thisbeing bad
>>565762771paige and rem rely on the team too much, try dynamo or kelvin if you want to play support and have actual carry potential
It's back, but only the ButtPlug version.https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b7tmf785g5qa1/Mina#2qpifslo8dtox
>>565762857>dynamo or kelvinkys>>565762771try Viscous brother!
>>565759248mina has a 50.10% winrate in my rank
>>565762814i didn't say i was losing
>>565762857knock down echoshard paige has so much pick potential it's insane.Dynamo does nothing without ult
>>565762893that buttplug is in the shape of a spade btw
>>565762642>>565762680>>565762689yeah i'm raking but against red camps i find myself pling pling plinging for like a good 10 seconds per creep and it takes forever to get them in rake range
>sell my trophy collector for a 6400 item>game suddenly feels like shit because i'm not zooming across the map in 2 secondsBros...
>>565762547proc lb on each camp than rake, don't bother with t3 until you have decent items. you want to be roaming for lb stacks, if you're in low mmr where everyone is super passive go cultist.
>>565762936doesnt matter, it means youre bad if you dont understand the impact paige brings to a game. Her only weakness is being dove she has humongous impact in lane, mid game, and late game fights with all her tools
>>565759895why would you wait for the % damage on ult
>>565762954who's supposed to kill the guy you're chain CCing if your team is bad dummy? i didn't say paige sucks, i said she's overly reliant on her team
>>565762547stop fucking playing mina if you want to jungle? kill people instead
>>565763006>red campsThere's very few characters in the game these are worth farming on and Mina isn't really one of themGenuinely would get more souls out of the time spent killing one just running around the jungle eating boxes.
>>565763006the big niggas? then dont shoot them go for the other ones. invade enemy jungle and snipe them then fly out>>565763110>escalating exposure ticks with your dragon>gun and melee scaling good
>In horiffic shitlow of Emissary >On a win streak>Suddenly get a game with a bad feeder>>First game guys :) Why
>>565763247emissary is below average so ofc new players will be in it
>>565763110if they're *reallly* bad you just got build damage like EE+boundless and opening rounds.>>565763247Thank fuck they use to start Oracle.
>>565763287>>565763281>use to start Oracle.For what purpose do they not start in Initiate though
>>565763415Because fuck you.
>>565753104This makes no sense statistically. How does matchmaking always put you on the team that doesn't care about urn?Also I'm in Seeker. Whenever someone goes for urn 80% of the time both sides are there to contest. Not everyone, but enough to cause a fight.
>>565763415Placing initiate is a unique hell that yoshi decided should be experienced by only a percentage of new players, the rest get to stumble into emissary+ and ruin lobby quality while also not having any fun themselves because they're trash and get flamed the whole time.
>>565763638>Also I'm in Seeker. Whenever someone goes for urn 80% of the time both sides are there to contest. Not everyone, but enough to cause a fight.You're playing with gamer dads or smurfs because this shit is rare in archon except super early morning.
Paradox bomb build is a meme. Gun feels way more consistent, especially for ganking.
>>565763638>This makes no sense statistically. How does matchmakingNTA but some people are just unluckier than others.Of my past matches, in order:>laned with a 0/12 geist>laned with a victor named "Losing Streak" that went 0/7 because they jungled the entire game and then folded in every teamfight>laned with a vyper named "Absolute Trash" that had the least damage in the game>ended up the random for a 5-stack against another 5-stack that played much better than the one I got>had a good lane but didn't matter because the sidelanes did so poorly it was unbelievableI have like a 43% winrate and every match I win is some nightmarish 50+ minute slog where I play my heart out and the enemy team gets constant soul stimmies from everyone around me
losing steak finna kmswhy do people pick pocket??? fucking useless hero istg
>>565763638Because the game knows I am vastly better than my rank and it is trying to hold me back. I'm not smurfing, I've just played thousands of hours of DotA/League/HoN, etc., and other FPS games. My winrate is still highly positive, but interacting with the urn at all unless it's a guaranteed thing is a great way to throw games, in my experience. If someone else runs it I'll support them, but if it looks even slightly sketchy I'm pushing a walker on the far side of the map. My team makes me do nothing but catch waves all game and then show up and 1v5 at ~20m most games anyways. I can never do anything but farm waves because my team refuses to catch them or push.
>lane against geist and dynamo>every time their skills are off cooldown they throw out their bomb and wave for five million damagewhat the fuck am i supposed to do against this
>>565753612She's the designated porn addicted troon hero unfortunately.Attracts all those losers that think sex lingo memes are the funniest shit ever.
>>565753612It sucks because I think silver's kit is fun but I can't play her without feeling like a fraud secondary fag.
tired of playing with my brooling stack who refuses to play the macro. 36 minutes to take one single walker and never doing the urn or contesting it while our patron is already getting their shit pushed in. It was fun in initiate but now it feels like a waste of time to play. Still love my friends though.
>>565764990I hate when I lane with someone that pushes up to their tower 2 minutes in and stays there because I know then and there the lane is probably fucked due to their aggression and I should just give up.The game literally has mechanics to disincentivize/punish early objective-fagging and you still have people plinking towers with 75% damage resistance and no itemsYOU AREN'T ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING GO SMACK BOXES RETARD
play paradox
>>565764990I stopped playing with my friends too, we almost always got a stack on the other team that actually tried and lost so much after climbing enough in rank. On the other hand solo queue is just depressing even though my winrate is better. I think I just hate this game
>>565765226This is a man wearing those fake prosthetic silicone tits that drape over your shoulders.
>>565765342Well now its even hotter
>>565765226surprised there's no celty mod yet
>>565764453>pocket drops down on us to ult>everyone dashes away>slowing hex>he explodes instantlymixed bag imo
>>565765226Once they rework her to become faceless void I will
For some reason whenever I play 7 I become 50 times more toxic. I don't get angry or anything, I just let loose schizo deranged shit on the chat more often. It's as if I can feel Seven coming inside me.
>>565766403He's doing WHAT inside you?
>>565765226There's a specific name for this type of character that wears a face-concealing mask all the type. It's a fucking tag and I can't remember it.
>>565766731>>>/aco/9153098
>>565766984There was an actual, specific word for it. I can't remember it and now it's pissing me off.
why does half the cast fellate shiv for being some gigachad handsome guy when he looks like a fucking monkeyi think close to every male character looks better than him
>terrible archon teammates on my team>75% winrate smurf warden farms them for 10 kills in lane>rapes the game>wasted 25 minutesthey really need punishments for smurfing or make it harder to get your accounts in the playtest, it's so common you might as well not play unless your autistic and or addicted
>>565767320His model is straight from Neon Prime with some minor retexturing
>>565767320thats what women want
>use cheats>call them mods
>>565767550what are you going to do about it bitch nigga?
>>565765950What's the Paige skin called I remember seeing it once but can't seem to find it searching 'Paige'.
>>565767320You know why.Because Valve is full of white leftist Sweetbaby DEI types (whether they "consulted" or not literally doesn't matter, those people just work *at Valve*, it's 2026, 14+ years after TF2 became tumblr bait and it's a fucking Seattle based company) who simultaneously push diversity and interracial unity while being incredibly, comically, like 1930s-style racist.The fact the ambiguously brown guy looks like a literal monkey and is also fawned over and lusted over, it's obvious why.
>>565767665>>565767665
>>565763415Lewd
>>565766403this but drifter
