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WE ARE SO BACK edition

Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancients - Teasers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqb4pk3bkbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKD92i_KYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6q1UMNM9eY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h3pZCdwtlE

[PoE 1]
>3.28 Patch Notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt

[PoE 2]
>Druids
https://pathofexile2.com/druids
>Ongoing 0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212

Last map >>566178387
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swordbros...
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Furry SEX
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>>566203297
previous >>566189647
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>>566202885
this kills poo1 sissies
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PoE 2 players don't even try to defend their game anymore
They just look at you like this
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>Tink
>Tink
>Tink
>Tink
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You vill do zis every league
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hopesissies aint lost this hard since kalandra league
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>new league is yet another press a button and get ambushed league

how is this different from d4's colored helltides and powers
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Should I be excited or concerned I can't tell
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So last league the league mechanic itself was an unbalanced mess that it raped the """economy"""" so badly that people fled to a private league not a month in. Are we supposed to trust them overhauling multiple?
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POE 2/10
POOP OF EXCREMENT
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too many jingakhs...
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D4 won.
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IT'S UP!!!
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>>566203297
We all lost.
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>>566203502
nah ill be skipping temple and delitium, you can farm it for me.
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comparison is the thief of joy
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lily milkers
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is dLily a girl yes/no?
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It's good that no new systems are introduced. Imagine if we actually got swords and axes. They clearly want to make some epic dismemberment system with it. The league that launches with bladed weapons will introduce trillions of new assets assaulting the GGG servers.
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>tons of new endgame shit
why is this bad? no one gives a fuck about a new class or weapon types other than the secondaries
>>566203502
nothing wrong with that, why do you secondaries want everything on the platter?
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>>566203578
OH SHIT
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how come gacha games add a new character every 2 weeks but poe2 cant add a new character in 6 months of development?
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>>566202793
>just woke up
>who won
D4, unironically.

But in reality, that just means every fan of the ARPG genre lost.
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>>566203578
based Chris putting Troonathan thru a humiliation ritual in exchange for keeping his failed franchise afloat
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Reminder that Kelly is a dude
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THEY FIXED EVERYTHING!!!!
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>>566203625
sin is the thief of virtue
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>>566203502
im not playing every poe2 league
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>WE ARE SO BACK
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Belton won
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>>566203689
>Defending bloat this bad
You can just not respond to not out yourself as retarded you know.
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>>566203502
This repels the casual
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>>566203297
*ahem*
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Alright I finished P8 ele fire Druid
It was fun though my damage was falling off a bit at the end there
Do I respec into air druid for nightmare or play something else
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The tub is overflowing with new content
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havent played this garbage since it released in 2024, does the skill tree still have nodes on it you can't even use because the corresponding staple ARPG weapons aren't implemented?
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am I retarded or did 0.5 not have duelist or any new classes at all? 2 new ascendancies for existing classes, but no new classes and no new weapon types?
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>>566203502
jesus fucking christ this shit looks so convoluted
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not gonna play poop2, too busy playing a real game
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>>566203509
because literally everything about poe2 is infinitely superior.
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At least RF is back (kinda). Only positive about this update. Build guide in game might be good, but could be terrible.
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>>566203715
Because GGG only has so many people working. They are also trying to keep two games working simultaneously. Sometimes what they hoped to develop takes longer than they realize.
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>druid released in december 2025
>next class won't be until december 2026
An entire YEAR-LONG WAIT in between classes.
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Tubsisters our response?!
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>>566203885
'fraid so
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Still won't be playing 2 but this patch looks the best one so far, the problem is that there are too many fotm sloppers and extreme dad gamer casuals these days who want their new weapons and classes instead of new endgame stuff, oh well. Anyways I see that Varga is still banned, only Empyrian the gypsy is left now
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>>566203297
This solidifies poe2 as the most slopified, chinkified, gacha-filled garbage pile of an arpg I have ever seen. How much fucking garbage socket shit are they going to add to the game, just to avoid adding a crafting bench? Who fucking asked for this trash? Two ascendancies with unique effects from socketables and there are 500 different ones? What a retarded fucking system. Not to mention the ascendancies themselves are absolute AI slop design for retards. A shitty "ward" system for skills now? The fuck is this shit lmao
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>>566203916
for everyone who just follows a guide to the letter (90% of the playerbase) the experience is just like diablo 4 except everything is a slog for no reason
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I've never played Diablo 4. Is it really better than PoE2?
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400 hours played and this game sucks
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>>566203502
Nope. I will play until I'm bored and quit.
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I might buy the game to do the challenges, since this will be officially the first poo2 league because no challenges = not a real league
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poowunners..... I don't feel so good...
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I'm done man. Probably gonna kill myself
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>>566204065
by far
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>>566204065
No, it's somehow worse. Which is impressive.
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NZ government forced all New Zealanders to be covid jabbed.
60% of GGG's core god tier developers died over the years 2020-current and the NZ government is hiding it in and in collusion with China (who completely owns GGG) to cover it up/hide it.

That's the only explanation for this shit show. GGG is being worked on by like 12 people and 40 Tencent operative slaves living on bunk beds in the office.
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>>566204065
D4 is better, if you like ARPGs. Not sure ehat poop2 is but it is not an ARPG.
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>>566203578
I don't care about jonathans opinions
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>>566204135
Where's the hype shouldn't people be logging in right now..
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>>566204065
yes
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>>566204065
It blows path of excrement out of the water
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>>566204135
>P-please look at PoE1!!
Genuinely sad.
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>>566204135
why don't poowunners play poowun?
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>>566204065
Do you like having fun? So yes.

PoE is for autists and for people who larp as being autists.
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>>566204065
D4 is not even a real attempt to make a game.
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>>566204236
sabotage.
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maybe it's time to treat this game as poe1like and not the slow and methodical gameplay poe2
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Yeah, it's looking like D4 won quite comfortably.
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>>566203916
you can't earnestly mean this
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i am playing d2r for the first time cause poo2 is trash
what build should i play
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Atlas passive build guide - get them all bro
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>infinite land
>infinite ocean
>infinite delve (next) underground
the next will be infinite space with planets with maven and shaper styled beings
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>>566204135
>Steam has less than 5% of Diablo 4 players
>Steam has 70% of PoE 1 and 2 players
UMMMM, HOPESISSIES?
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>>566204065
unironically is it worth playing? I tried the demo when it came before launch but it seemed kind of meh and I've heard its dogshit, but the newest expansion was good or something?
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>>566204336
uhhh poebros... how do we cope...
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>>566204047
>just like d4 except d4 is complete shit while poe2 is good

I agree
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What happened to Arcane Archer?
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>the main issue with POE2 is it has no endgame
>okey we've fixed the endgame
>UHHHHHHH THIS IS BAD WHERE ARE THE NEW CLASSES????
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Only one man can save poop2 at this point. Troonathan, make the call to Rod.
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>>566204335
Which Direction of infintiy is the best AAAAHHH Multiple infinite contents
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0PhEFcIkg4
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0.5 looks so good
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>>566204443
it's really like this
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>>566204065
i dno maybe ask how good it is to the countless of players in the vg? oh wait...i just checked it doesnt exist
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>>566203502
Based Jonathan filtering retards and doomjeets. You lost and it is not even close this is simple as fuck and keep dooming.
>muh bloat
Filtered beyond belief.
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>Yeah, so, how's life at GGG?
notice that Jonathans lips go flat in this moment and he looks downward away from Chris? He's ashamed and worried. Jon is coping hard about his shit project and it's easily noticeable. He has no poker face
>https://youtu.be/M0PhEFcIkg4?si=uSxQy9CpuXpWnUKx&t=35
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>>566204443
>7 years of development
>cant make a good endgame
just 2 more weeks?
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troonathan is so repulsive to look at
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>>566204065
No. Its garbage
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>>566204362
base game is absolute dogshit
first expansion is 8/10
second expansion is 9.5/10
its like playing Neverwinter Nights or some shit where you skip or rush through the shitty base game as fast as possible so you can get to the fun parts
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>poetroons have such an inferiority complex towards D4 they literally PAID MONEY to shit on it
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>>566203906
Go get your fucking job stone
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>>566204412
Sabotaged.
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>>566204443
>towers are bad, hunting rares is boring and maps take too long.
>uhhh towers were actually based and hunting rares was peak gameplay. i don't want to finish maps in 30 seconds.
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Lord of Hatred contains:

New campaign in Skovos region(which includes the return of Lilith).
2 New classes: Paladin and Warlock.
Warplans: Customize your own endgame.
Horadric Cube: A new crafting system that has many recipes.
Skill Tree Revamp: There are over 40 reworked choices and 80 additional options.
Echoing Hatred: A horde-mode challenge featuring randomized monster spawns that increase in difficulty, designed to be leaderboard-friendly.
New Talisman Gear: Charms that can provide set-bonuses.
Fishing Mini-Game: Skovos has many fishes, can you catch them all?
Significant QOL improvements: New loot filter, lvl cap increase, 12 new torment tiers, etc


Man I really want to see 10 expansions for Diablo 4.
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>>566204443
>okey we've fixed the endgame
still cant choose map layouts
still have to do 10 shit maps per 1 good map
fixed
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>>566204528
its over
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ok it was fun dunking on /poeg/troons again. it's been awhile since I checked in. anyway, back to blasting on the 'lock in a real ARPG.
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So GGG are just intent on making sure all prior efforts to get new players into the game are out the window right?

What was the point of getting Geoff Keighley to show footage of the game. What was the point in any of it if the goal was just to make PoE2 and PoE1 the same game with the same problems?

They literally had millions of players lining up for EA to play, and then they hemorrhaged them drastically. Rather than try to keep hold of new players, who are far more numerous, they decided to double down on the dwindling existing playerbase?

I'm not seeing the logic here.
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>>566204561
>first expansion is 8/10
there is no fucking way you just said that dogshit of chasing a asian women through the jungle to not fight mephisto and get zero pussy is 8/10 fucking neck yourself you subhuman faggot
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>>566204443
In reality:
>endgame sucks
>okay we've kept the same end-game that sucks but added twenty layers of currency RNG on top of it
>but don't worry this is the biggest update ever it took us six whole months
>OK so there's one class in the update as well?
>No
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>>566204443
Is it hard for your subhuman brain to wrap itself around the concept that not everyone cares about the endgame grind and people just wanted more content to experience the campaign with
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>>566204607
job stone? Im just doing the main quest
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I noticed they've been including big beam attacks in a lot of the boss kits.
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>>566204687
didn't read
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>fix endgame pls
>ok heres 15 different infinite endgames
too much lole
Also new classes add variety to another repeat playthrough. Also its been 6 months, they could have done an endgame rework and a new class /weapon or two instead of shitting out 50 new endgames at once, Also you're retarded
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>>566204443
>we've "fixed" the endgame
>You've removed the dogshit infinite atlas???
>No, we've made it worse!
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>>566204528
kek yeah and chris is smug as ever knowing he got off the sinking ship at the top.
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>>566204742
Nobody plays ARPGs for the campaigns aside from literal 45 year old couch co-op dads. The genre has evolved. Get over it.
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>>566204758
One trick ponies recycling everything.
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I can completely understand why they focused on Endgame this update and skipped classes completely. They needed tons of content to keep people occupied with mini-updates for 7 months until they release the full game, ascendancies/classes wouldn't have been enough content to fill those months. But i'm still sad that no duelist or templar yet..
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So do you just farm the tree
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>>566204758
Shaper did it best still.
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>>566204443
>mechanics are the same (you just have to run on the wheel longer for any of the decent boss rewards)
>mapping is the same (running bad map layouts 90% of the time with the added bonus that base level breach/exped/deli/ritual encounters will feel like shit if you dare do them outside of their spawned regions on the map that actually juice them)

Bonus they also said they were nerfing the droprate on greater/perfect crafting currencies so enjoy a nerfed crafting league.
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>mapping in PoE 1
>put desired map in device
>press go

>mapping in PoE 2
>do this quest
>follow this exact route
>do this other quest
>and this one
>complete this specific map
>and NOW you can do one (1) map the way you want to
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GIMME ME A KEY PLEASE
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>>566204689
>he says while posting "when Taygedo is not on screen, every character should be asking where Taygedo is: the game"
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>>566204443
I don't want to redo the sub atlas tree every fucking league
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>>566204821
99% of ARPG players are 45 year old couch co-op dads you fucking retard, that's the only reason Diablo is still a franchise
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>>566204668
Um, no, sweetie. It's actually TWO GAMES now. Jonathan is beautifuland valid.
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>>566204742
>cater to the dadgamers that quit after two weekends
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>>566204821
No one plays PoE, retard. The playercount drops to sub 10k the minute the game is out of new thumbnails to collect.

It's a dying genre.
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>>566204687
the game isnt out yet, everything is for the 1.0 release (F R E E)
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>>566204362
newest expansion is good but has too much after death effects and they mostly 1shot you. Story is better but nothing that will wow you. Endgame grind is simple and satisfiying with some minor qol issues. Vessel of hatred (first expansion) is so fucking dogshit it almost killed the game.
OVERALL

base game 7/10
Vessel of hatred 1/10
Lord of Hatred 8.5/10
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>We are happy to announce 1.0 THIS YEAR after Exilecon!!
>The campaign is finished!! Huzzah for 1.0!!
Goalposts sucessfully shifted.
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>>566204528
a picture speaks a thousand words
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>>566204103
Keky
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>>566204443
>>566204504
>>566204529
>>566204618
>>566204798
as someone who doesnt play poe2 and from what i understand(a mix of reading forums and reddit) there are LOTS of secondaries in poe2 who just want new epic toys(classes and weapons), they don't really care about the endgame and those who get to the endgame want maps to take 2 hours, they're also really afraid of new mechanics being added(seen quite a few gamer dads complain about this)
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>>566204687
>POE1niggers actively despise POE2's gameplay and core design philosophies
>POE1niggers resent POE2 for taking dev time from POE1
>POE1niggers play POE2 just so they can refuse to engage with POE2's systems then whine when they're punished for it, like refusing to play anything but LS Huntress in 0.2 then crying that there's no build diversity
>POE2 players love the game
>POE2 players want more features in this game and more classes and stuff
>POE2 players are so much better at engaging with the game that the devs fucking said on air in an interview that people who had never played POE were better at 2 than people with thousands of hours in POE1

>GGG chooses to cater to POE1niggers by speeding up and slopping up POE2
>POE1niggers will reward GGG for their attention by whining that POE2 isn't MORE like POE1
it would be fucking hilarious if it weren't so sad and pathetic that a good game is dying
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>>566204909
taygedo got closer to pussy than you ever will in the first quest
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>>566204962
They're the same people who buy cosmetics, which is the only way GGG makes money
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The thing is: poe2 is not an ARPG.
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Based on previous records, what are the chances that any of these multiple reworked endgame mechanic changes will work as intended with out broken shit
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>>566205010
Baldo has no reason to look like that. Path of Exile 2 is closer to everything he's talked about as his Vision.
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>>566204528
It's stressful being in management. Anyone in GGG leadership surely has daily phone calls with greedy chinks desperate to insert slot machines and gacha into the game even more than it already is.
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>>566205010
lmaoo
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>>566205053
>doesn't play
>makes a comment about secondaries
the irony.
I didn't read your post and you shouldn't consider this a (You).
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>>566204942
>muh diablo
Hardly even an entry in the genre and PoE has been bending it over the fucking radiator for almost a decade straight now. You are off your rocker man lmao.
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>>566205053
retard
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>>566204443
the patch is wonderful and you are correct to call these faggots out, im just sad there is no swords i wanted a berserk guts ultra greatsword league but im fine with having a giga endgame instead with challenges ill take that monkey paw
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>>566205107
Zero. Post-2021 GGG is utterly incapable of designing anything but 'click the obelisk and kill the rapeape waves'. They are in a comstant state of rework because every implementation is worse than the last.
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>Make fun of people who want lots of content in maps
>Make fun of them because it's not what you want which is maps with zero gameplay you just zone in and out with your 5 free Awakened Mirrors of Kalandra in 60s flat
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>OMG WHERE'S THE NEW ACT I NEED IT GGG PLEASE
>I LITERALLY CANNOT PLAY WITHOUT THE NEW ACT, I WANT TO RUN THROUGH ALL THOSE NEW ZONES IN AN HOUR TO GET TO THE ENDGAME AS FAST AS POSSIBLE
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>>566205212
>>566205246
as a poe1 veteran I'm allowed to comment whatever i want, and the fact is that there are an insane amount of secondaries in 2
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Since this is clearly a very hype patch, huge even, predict player peak counts.
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this is the first real poop2 league, depending on how the challenge set looks I will buy the game
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>>566205327
>Make fun of them because it's not what you want which is maps with zero gameplay you just zone in and out with your 5 free Awakened Mirrors of Kalandra in 60s flat
PoE2 players hated 0.4 until Temple was exactly this
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>>566205357
>also i hate the campaign and need a campaign skip
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>>566205107
If anything they'll be under-rewarding to the work and setup they require
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wow GGG really went downhill. what happened?
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>>566204687
I'm a poe1 fan and I'm in no way a fan of any of this fucking trash. This game is a mess of retarded decisions from the ground up. 500 bajillion new RUUUUUUUUUNESSSSS. Ward skills? fuck right off
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I was at work so i missed the trailer but reading the thread on my phone was pretty fun. I still don't know whats going on desu but everyone was dooming
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>>566205378
you should have said you played 1. ugh.
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remember when it was d4 vs elden ring
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>by the way, is those sort of simulator type, heavy type leagues, a lot of them are actually less popular when they get first released, and then they tend to be more beloved later.
>Once they're understood?
>Once they're understood, I've noticed.
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IT'S UP
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All the endgame mechanics are so more involved and so different to previous its kinda like they're doing 6 leagues in one at the same time
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>>566205439
>POE2 players liked the Temple
every single POE2 enjoyer I know loathed the Vaal Temple
quit making shit up, poe1nigger
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>>566205439
setting up a proper temple unironically took days.
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>>566203460
KEKAROO
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WHAT BEAST BOSS DO YOU TAME???
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>poopg is unironically calling jonathan "based"
only mazed retards left playing this rugpull
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>>566205605
WHO
H
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>>566205620
>every single POE2 enjoyer I know loathed the Vaal Temple
Lmao
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>>566204045
TRVKE
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>>566204065
Yeah poop2 will cope but it's the truth
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>>566204045
raped
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>>566202948
but she's cute...
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>>566205661
monke
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so what are we playing in 0.5?
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>TOTA probably not in for 1.0
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING LMAO
AT WHAT POINT DOES IT BECOME AN EXIT SCAM?????????
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temple was the greatest poe league of all time
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>>566205378
>using the term "secondaries" over videogame franchises
you dont know what that word means and you likely have autism
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>>566205834
RF
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>>566204045
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>>566205620
temple was the definition of a mechanic for mazies only
>play normally? it's dogshit
>grind 100 hours and follow a very complicated guide? 10k divs/hr
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>>566205620
the temple was one of the best mechanics they've ever made.
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>>566205606
They made too many changes at once. Even if you think its cool to learn and do all the new shit, the chance is high that they will all be bugged and they ave bitten off way more than they can chew being able to fix, adjust and rebalance all that stuff.
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uhhh bit of a freudian slip there, ziz
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>>566205836
after the 1.0 payday, I fully expect jonatroon to leave
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>want to craft something in PoE 1
>take item to the bench and craft from the menu

>want to craft something in PoE 2
>need to find currency that adds sockets
>need to find specific runes for the wanted craft
>THEN take item to the "bench" and craft
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>>566203297
>OUR BIGGEST UPDATE EVER
To think they had the gall to say that while giving so little...
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>>566204045
They will call you a doomposter but not a liar.
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>>566205834
d4
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>>566205620
i fucking love the temple
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>>566205947
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
>>566205978
It is the
>ALL CLASSES BUFFED
of 2026.
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as a poe2 disliker(not hater just disliker) this patch unironically looks great(no meme) but obviously the casual gamer dad crowd are fuming that they're not getting their epic berserk guts swords
>>566205553
well duh of course i played 1 how else would i be a path of exile veteran?
>>566205896
if you're not happy about endgame shit you're a secondary honestly(the only thing that matters in this franchise is the endgame) only secondaries care about campaign, le epic new weapons and classes
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>>566205912
Which raises the question, why would someone who isn't a 100-hour grinder even subject himself to this? Like what the fuck? Is it just to be able to say you play a big boy game?
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Well I'm having fun. I think I shall play a martial artist with the 10% crit mana mace.
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>>566206027
any askers?
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>>566206027
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>>566204962
Dadgamers are the ones that play for 3 months.
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>>566206092
retard
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So is this officialy /poe2g/eneral now or nah?
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I feel whelmed after rewatching the stream
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>>566206092
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>>566204045
Why do you want a crafting bench?
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>he is a jingakh
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>>566205661
Obviously the fucking shark. Monke is the pleb dadgamer answer.
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You vill slot in ze movement speed jewels
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>>566205834
Apocalypse Warlock in Diablo 4: Lord of Hatred.
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>>566206092
>you're not happy about endgame shit you're a secondary honestly
cool
still not what secondary means btw
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>>566205947
KWAB
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Two shared campaigns, one seperate endgame
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>>566206250
>concentrated liquid suffering
heh
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>end game sucks
>OK well we added 1,000 currencies to it now
>no new class
>no tota
>no campaign act
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>nobody talking about the fact that we're getting grasping mail
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>>566205967
>want to craft something in poe1
>need to unlock some recipes
>need to get currencies to add sockets
>need to get currencies to link the sockets
>need special currency for xyz
>need to beastcraft this to save a few bucks
>need to lock this so i can slam
>fuck i forgot to unlock the multimod craft. what map had that recipe?
>alright almost finished, fucking hell need to run betrayal
kino
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Serious question for the shitposters, do you actually believe doomjeeting is going to get people to play D4 or whatever other slime-coated pile of shit you like?
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https://pathofexile2.com/ancients#other

lot of content there 30 new maps is something i missed in the livestream
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Even the interviews are bloated
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>>566204065
Diablo 4 started rough but now it is a great game. Only took 13 seasons and 2 expansions.
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>>566206372
they wil just add tattoos to breaches or some shit
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Rent free
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I think the idea is that you can focus on whatever endgame league you like and get good stuff whichever direction you go, and not feel like you have to do everything. Maybe. IDK its a lot. New class or two would have been nice but at the end of the day no one even plays melee so why yall sowrd fixated is it because you like penis?
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>>566206372
>Heres this whole host of shit that was months of work are you not entertained
>So uh.. Did you make any of the five minute changes we've been asking for
>No
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>>566205834
D4
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>>566206250
>1%-2%
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>>566206468
have they removed mire?
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>>566206458
mazed and tubbed post
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>>566205834
the nipple rings, why does she wear them?
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>slow and deliberate combat in a game with hitboxes like this
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>>566206262
so i asked gemini and he said
>"In the world of fandoms—particularly within anime, gaming, and manga communities—the term "secondary" is a slang label used to describe a fan who consumes a franchise through secondary sources rather than the original or primary material"
i consider poe2 a secondary source so im right
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>>566206458
no I just do it to make people angry
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>>566203297
>WE ARE SO BACK
Are we? Where are the swords? Templar or Duelist anywhere? What the fuck is this league, two new ascendancies and everything else is end game only? Some uniques look cool I guess but what's with all the new crafting currency? Let me guess its only dropped from pinnacle bosses and it's worth more to sell than use it? Jesus Christ...
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I want to play the new minions
but I'm 99% sure they are going to be absolutely dogshit and force me to reroll the character mid league
monk and ranger are pretty much the only classes I haven't played until end game yet
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>>566206468
>level 78
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Why did they lock interesting specters to only animals..
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>>566206637
You will Cast on Critical comets and you will LIKE IT
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>>566204065
Unironically after the current expac release, I would say yes.

It is still not worth the money or particularly good, though. The genre is just an embarrassing mess right now, frankly
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>>566206545
2-3% with the breach jewel quality currency
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>4 reheated leagues
>no brand new league
>one or two new pinnacles
>still infinite atlass
>no new class
>no tota
>no act 5

Lil nigga was right for days and yall were coping. How it taste poo2 sissies?
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>>566206615
Doesnt that make you a secondary as you dont even play it? Retard
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>>566204045
This, holy shit I don't want to sift through 2000 rune effects that say "+40% totem placement speed on Wednesday". what the fuck is their problem

Oh and have fun with your MANDATORY league crafting mechanic to add 200 rune ward that has to stay on all your items for the rest of the game. I hope they make that shit take up an affix slot in future leagues so we don't have to keep doing it.
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>>566206598
life and resistance maybe some stats to pad the attribute requirements for her gears
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>>566206027
so basically 1 out of 4
lmao
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>>566206092
none of it is real it's just fake concernposting from 1troons who've made this a lifestyle
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(You) are still going to play on infint atlas
(You) are not getting to choose which map to run
(You) are not getting 6 portals
(You) are not getting a campaign skip
(You) are not getting swords
(You) are still gonna die in lvl 22 sekhema like a paraplegic gorilla nigger and seethe about it for hours on end
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POE2 = BAD
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>>566206250
>concentrated liquid suffering
KEK
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>>566206651
>bro just play for twenty hours before unlocking your build
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>>566206437
>implying the shitters here even know what this is
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>>566206826
i didn't even see did they finally add any fucking QoL for that atlas? Selecting maps was such a pain in the ass.
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>>566206754
how could i be a secondary as a path of exile veteran? endgame is the only thing that matters, no one cares about your swords. go play dark souls
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jonathan did a new POOP OF EXCREMENT
very gooey and nasty
BIG STINK!
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>>566206746
Grim(no Dawn though)
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>each league mechanic has it's own crafting system
can we go back to smashing stones to an item until it work instead?
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>>566206615
you sort of admitted you didnt know what it meant to begin with, so in a way this is actually a commendably honest post. fair enough
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>>566206468
>30 new dogshit time-wasting layouts
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Furina status?
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Martial Artist builds?
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>>566206826
I will be playing Diablo 4 (D4).
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>>566206468
ah shit that skill is literally vampire survivors garlic lol
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Which class will be better for RF?
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>>566206918
You are a PoE2 secondary, literally by the defintion you are forming opinions based on secondary sources rather than playing it. Retard
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>>566206952
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>>566206228
so i don't have to deal with chinkified currency slopification and can have one unified system for crafting like a normal sane human being that doesn't want to read a fucking treatise on tri-res boot crafting every fucking league?
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>>566206952
Owes me sex.
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>>566206615
>only heard about moomei months she quit
>went to watch some clips of her
damn. felt like losing something precious. at least the baubaus are still going strong.
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>>566206886
Uhm, actually, that chest is just bloat and too complex. You know PoE ran out of design space when you have to vendor rings for some gay chest. Am I Zaccie-posting properly?
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>>566206952
she's a bear themed vtuber now
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New kino just dropped
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>>566207056
>one unified system for crafting
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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>>566206952
Furina is a boy
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>>566206918
it's the exact same tub of shit endgame as before but now it has the same bloat as johnys cheeks
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>>566206458
>implying I play anything
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>>566207105
kek this will be worth putting on in the background as I play d4
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>>566207019
RF TITAN
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People like the infinity atlas. Get over it.
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>>566207094
Mumei streams herself drawing and playing scrandle now
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You can reroll map layouts now
You can reroll map layouts now
You can reroll map layouts now
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>>566207056
This is who Jonathan brought into the fold. I hope for your sake that you're being paid to write such drivel.
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>>566206940
i've heard it plenty of times before and looks like i was using it correctly. poe2 fans are basically secondaries
>>566207034
as a path of exile veteran i formed my opinion on poe2 after playing it for like 5 hours(being a veteran of path of exile grants me this right)
>>566207132
well thats a shame but at least theres some sorts of endgame stuff being added, no one gives a fuck about shitty swords and classes(except secondaries)
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Where's Gladiator bros...? Where's swords....?
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>>566207275
>it's random
tubbed
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poop2 is still bad
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>>566207275
>rerolling a dogshit map layout
>it's still a dogshit may layout
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>>566207295
I see you came empty-handed to the argument table. Poe2 crafting is now more obtuse than poe1. And poe1 was already a gigantic pain in the ass. The whole point of 2 was to simplify these systems and yet they have made them more dogshit than ever

What is even the point of poo2?
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>>566207309
>as a player of game x, that makes me an expert on game y
retard
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I have a sword equipped on my 'lock in D4 (real ARPG)
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>>566207431
Sorry, bro, I just woke up from a nappie and complete misread the chain of comments like a retard. I'm on your side. Carry on.
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So Jonathan said that new class wasn't even planned and each class takes multiple cycles.
Just how fucking far behind they are? Are we going to have at most one new class in 1.0?
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AIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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PoE2 is like 40k 10e
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Brothers, I just came in and complain about that "cheat death" craft, that makes you immortal for a couple seconds when you die
That shit, is going to be mandatory in every league from now on untill the game dies because the game will assume you have it and will tweak damages and shit with that in mind
That is so ass and gay
Also I don't care about endgame shit
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>>566207429
Baldo really has a weird smile.
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>>566207496
What unique mechanic does that sword have? Yeah, thought so. It's just a statstick.
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Why does Jonathan hate swords?
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>>566207039
HG /gig/ is so fucking kino
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To be fair, PoE2 is not an ARPG. Keep that in mind when you critique it.
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>>566207402
the fact that running through a "bad" layout and one shotting a boss is too much for people is hilarious to me.
15-20 seconds to clear a map is too strenuous for the average poe1 dopamine zoomer.
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Someone post the leaked gladiator 'sword gameplay'
It's bad and no one will care about it post 1.0 anyway, not worth caring about, it's literally just warrior with bleed instead of stun
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>>566207463
im literally a path of exile veteran, im allowed to form my opinion on the sequel after just a few hours
also i wouldnt consider myself an expert but every real poe fan doesnt give a shit about swords or new toys
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>>566207563
>Are we going to have at most one new class in 1.0?
Shaping to be like that, yeah.
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They've basically questified the existing endgame to make it seem more obvious what you are supposed to be doing, its just that it seems a bit overwhelming all at once.
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I'm skipping this filler league coz no swords
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but does it djent?
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>>566207589
that's a grimace
he doesn't like tub man at all
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>>566207647
these pavement apes are all tradies, too, so the length of time that they have to actually play in these maps instead of one-shotting them in two seconds is...less than two days of playing the league, maybe.
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>slow and deliberate combat in a game with netcode and animation synchronization like this
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I'm gonna go to Japan instead of playing PoE2.
See you, losers.
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I'm so confused by this lack of sword shit cause I played at exilecon 1 and the swords and axes and everything were in the game even then. They've had them the whole time, idk why they never chose to work on them.
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>>566207742
Now we just need map markers and trails and it'd be kino.
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Why the fuck people still asking for a crafting bench, when the current socketable system is already more flexible? Did they never touch poo1 and think it's some sort of bench where you craft an item end to end?
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when they said endgame overhaul they meant things such as different expedition remnants
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>ARPGs with sword:
Diablo
Diablo 2
Diablo 3
Diablo 4
Diablo Immortal
Path of Exile
Grim Dawn
Torchlight
Torchlight 2
Torchlight 3
Torchligh Infinite
Hero Siege
Hero Siege 2
Titan Quest
Titan Quest 2
Undecember
Last Epoch
Sacred
Sacred 2
Victor Vran
The Incredibles Adventures of Van Helsing
Dungeon Siege
Dungeon Siege 2
Dungeon Siege 3
Fate
Fate 2
Fate 3
Fate 4

>ARPGs without sword
Path of Exile 2
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Is it really over?
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>>566207689
You're litteraly a retarded faggot
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>she thinks beelining to the boss to skip a map is acceptable
This is getting sad.
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POE2? Bad.
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>>566207563
1.0 will be
One (1) new class
two acts
two ascendancies

Still no TOTA.
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>>566207827
Combat has more depth in roguelites where i literally hold a button for my character to automove/autoattack across the screen.
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>>566207838
this is a company run by a man who didn't realize taking devs off a project would result in no work being done on that project
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GUYS LOOK YOU CAN PLAY MACES AGAIN AREN'T YOU EXCITED? WHERE'S THE HYPE?
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there's too much content
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This sword shit is just distracting people from more pressing issues that the game has desu.
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>>566207908
have you never played poe1?
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>>566207568
>here's your 5 way
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>>566207864
retard
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why are poe2 fags like this?
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>>566207881
To be fair, PoE2 is not an ARPG.
>>566208012
You're right. Where are the axes?
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>>566207348
look at the monsters, the monsters already have the skills that the players will get with swords an d maces
the little channel and then swirl left swirl right in half circles for sword dancing, the large swipes, overhead swing, it will be like playing guitar hero for combos...
swords will be Swirly S shape moves
daggers will be straight line stabbystabb aqnd cling to enemies to do acrobatics jumping above and behind like the amazon retreat move but in the other direction
and maces will be channeling, swing around then smash, or swing the mace club and squirt fire
just like the monsters who already use those weapons
probably with all that crafting you will get to put stuff on the weapons that makes them do more dmg from one type like poison daggers and so on
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>>566207896
>replying to a holobrown
lol
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>>566207827
Bro nobody is playing poo1 why are you posting about it
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>>566208012
the campaign is done. 1.0 is here. Doomsissies btfo. HopeGODS wonnered.
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>>566208059
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Genuinely what the fuck are they doing at GGG. This game has no fucking direction, no project management, completely blind to how much time investment needs to be put in to even try things out in this game. The game feels turgid to play and they refuse to add the bare minimum of things that would be expected (multiple melee weapons, all classes, acts) instead they don't even rework the end game systems at all they just add layers and layers of bullshit onto it and say "look we did a massive rework!"

8 years in development for this btw, they still claim it's EA but then update it slowly like it's a fully released product because it is as the only way people have access to it is through spending at least $30 IIRC. They've just added challenges to the league because they know their playerbase won't be able to resist and will grind this shitty game to get their 36/40 no matter how many miles of shit they have to crawl through. This will help boost the player numbers so it looks better and they can appease investors.

Any other dev would get crucified for this but this is just allowed to slide because niGGGers made it.
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>>566208019
The game where you kill mobs so more bosses spawn from Destructive Play? The one where that actually makes sense and progresses you towards a boss fight? Stop being a defensive retard backing yourself into indefensible corners.
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>>566207881
>The Incredibles Adventures of Van Helsing
Should I play this?
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>>566207838
My massive cope is that Melee is secretly being worked on as a massive overhaul in the background with whole new combat and hitbox system and the warrior was just thrown in as a stopgap and all that will be replaced.

GGG are working with Tencent and some chinese studio to make a whole massive melee combat revival and they're saving this for 1.0 where they drop all the remainder characters at once and PoE2 truly acheives its true vision and it all suddenly makes sense. They gave us the dex and int characters first to get them over with and make poetards happy while they rugpull them at 1.0 and suddenly bows are shit.
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Predictions for peak CCU and how sharp the drop off will be?
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>>566207881
TRVTHNVKE
Not a real ARPG without swords
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>>566208059
>Why is an ARPG like an ARPG?
I swear people are getting dumber by the minute.
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>>566208019
>uhm, sweetie, haven't you played [game with fucking horrible gameplay]?
poe1 trannies are so exhausting
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>>566208165
NTA but apparently it's decent.
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>>566207568
This actually seems rad, I'm looking forward to ritual chaining.

>Chance to make ritual spawn on summoning stones
Aaaaand ruined. Way to go Jonathan, if you pick that it's illegal to just click rituals when you see them because you need to go check each ritual in the map for summoning stones before starting any. go backtrack maps even more. I'm just not taking that passive even though it sounds objectively cracked, what are these fucking retards doing? let me guess, I'm supposed to click on my waypoints?
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>>566207864
>OH BOY I JUST GOT A GREAT ITEM
>BUT IT LACKS A RESISTANCE THAT MY CURRENT ITEM HAVE
>OH, LET ME EXALT IT
>>>Player Regenerate 1.5 life per second
Yeah, I wonder why, socketing 12% fire res into a boots should be enough.
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>>566208059
He's not entirely wrong. Poe1 feels a lot like LE nowadays: floaty combat, no stakes no substance
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been gone for a while. where are the patch notes?
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>>566208019
why would I play that clunky ugly outdated boomer game?
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>5x strongbox encounter to pop out a chaos orb
here's your fucking league mechanic lmao, is this real?
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>>566208178
extremely low peak will result in relatively little drop-off (because only mazies will play this garbage)
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>>566208282
In 3 weeks. Please enjoy.
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>>566208059
Why do these niggas even play isometric ARPG's. You cannot do this when you have items/passives in the game that allow you to do insane damage numbers. They should just go play Elden Ring instead which actually caters to what they want.
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>>566208303
>clunky
we're not talking about PoE 2.
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Looks like instead of addressing the issues with the game they've just slapped a bunch of gacha-esque crap over the top of the existing stuff. I haven't played D4 but I assume D4 is the same, these retard companies are now in lock-step with each other
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>>566207742
It will never NOT be overwhelming and trash because this type of questing is the most autistic shit ever devised
This is fucking VN style of questing, it's a giant map and you have TALK TO MARINA on the school icon, and TALK TO FUKUNI on the house icon, and TALK TO AGARIN on the shop icon.
This shit is un-rpgistic, it will always look and feel like trash
They are trying to make it feel better but the system itself is devoid of life and immersion
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>>566208154
Nick Shirley needs to be sent to GGG to investigate the clear waste and fraud going on. I bet he breaks in and opens the door to GGG (after he gets passed the 3 indian security guards by offering them a distraction loli) and finds that Jonathan is an AI screen and it's literally like the Wizard of Oz where he doesn't exist and all the developers died during covid, NZ government covered it up.
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>>566206952
Impregnated
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>>566208012
yes, where is the templar?
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>>566208178
150k at most. 80k after the weekend
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>>566208369
COPE poop1 sissy
Gameplay GODS won.
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>>566208369
They get extremely quiet when you tell them Nioh and No Rest already exist.
>>566208390
D4 is actually in a pretty good state and needs more content if anything. They introduced what is basically old Harvest crafting with the Horadric Cube this league and it's kino.
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What's the absolute easiest build I can play from zero to hero in 0.4 if I want to test this piece of shit game?
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>azhemri is still shit and just fishing for the 30000 divine charm
>rogue exile is still shit and just fishing for the abyss jewel that can be worth 30000 divine
>strongboxes is still shit and just for SSF chads for easy access to exalted
Great endgame "rework".
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Reminder that Mark said balance changes aren't coming in 0.5.
You vill play CoC Comet with +Levels. Und nothing else.
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>>566208178
I was hardskipping it because of no new class until I saw they're doing challenge FOMO cosmetics. I'll do a quick playthrough and pay some chink to do all my ascendancy humiliation rituals just to get the cosmetics then dip.
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>>566208178
No swords so we won't break 20k
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>>566208369
I don't really know where you'll find a game where you spend minutes on end fawning over each drop that you find instead of tossing them in a box and checking later. MMOs? That's the only one that I can think of coming close.
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>>566208574
They're nerfing leech how tf are you going to play cock comet
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>>566208059
>>566208130
>>566208221
>>566208280
no one gives a fuck about le meaningful combat and exploration we just want to play satisfying builds, blast maps, get currency, repeat
if we wanted to explore or immerse ourselves we'd play whatever the fuck new game people play these days like elden ring(sorry im not up to speed with new releases) or dungeons and dragon?
>>566208390
>a secondary dad gamer is mad about new endgame systems
shocking
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>>566207252
gonna look that up, you better not lying
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>>566208369
those types never actually reach that point anyways because they are shitters
they basically just want everyone to be on the same level as them
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>>566208165
I would play Neocore's(the same dev behind Van Helsing) Warhammer40k ARPG over it
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>>566208168
that sounds like turbocope
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>>566208160
destructive play, is that the maven witness thing where you need to run a bunch of different maps?
oh nevermind, you mean running through a map like silo to kill the add bosses and leaving before the map is completed.
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>>566208547
shield wall
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update looks fun, welp you know what i am playing (again)
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>>566208646
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAQgkJYZjiM
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>>566208636
Leech is getting a slap on the wrist, casters will never get nerfed in POE2
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>>566208369
You realize the entire campaign plays like that, right?
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>>566208547
Galvanic Shards, its so OP that you can play with any ascendancy, its pretty retarded proof, you will only need a real single target skill when you reach red maps.
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Did D4 win?
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>>566208529
no rest is fucking garbage worst game i've played in the past few years
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>>566208672
You're defending this gameplay in PoE 2 for what reason? Explain yourself, tribalistic retard.
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>>566208749
bigly
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>>566208643
>no one gives a fuck about le meaningful combat and exploration we just want to play satisfying builds, blast maps, get currency, repeat
What's stopping you right now?
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>>566208735
>Spending 15-20 minutes per area
I mean guess PoE2 is like that (it's all sprinting)
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>>566208643
>no one gives a fuck about le meaningful combat and exploration we just want to play satisfying builds, blast maps, get currency, repeat
no, you don't. you'd be doing it now if that's all you wanted.
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>>566208740
>>566208693
Thank you. I'll give it the ol' college try with Galvanic Shards Mercenary. Apparently that is retard proof, but I'm not ordinary retard, so we'll find out.
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>>566208749
Yeah, D4 is victorious.
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>>566208712
cute, thanks anon.
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>>566208491
did you? You just got loaded up with a ton of currency garbage that every class will need now - 500 different oddly shards of trash for the trade store so you can make your gayass zesty nigga build
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>>566208178
It wont even break 10k players, PoE 2 cooked as the zoomers say.
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>>566209016
on god?
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>>566208735
You're the guy that Mark talked about taking 2 minutes to kill the Sun Temple Campaign boss.
>>566208369
You could kill a boss in five seconds with some of the spells in Elden Ring. Shitters just have a romanticized version of these games for some reason.
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>>566208820
>>566208910
why would i do that now? im not obsessed with this game that i need to play it 24/7....i've been blasting a lot for like 14 years now now(im a path of exile veteran)
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>>566208154
Yeah it seems like they keep attempting very high complexity low payoff systems instead of scoping their time and adding stuff people actually want (like swords).
>Here's your 50 new uniques every league, 5 of which are useable
>Here's your Specter summoning. We made every enemy and now boss in the game summonable, so you can find whichever does the most DPS and get 10 of them.
>Here's your 300 new Kalgaraan skills that add freeze buildup to the ignite builds that dont exist
>Here's 80 different new crafting trees each in their own NPC hubs (no crafting bench tho)

I don't want to say more content is bad, but in early access maybe they should focus on getting the real content out the door instead of bloatmaxxxing every little thing.
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>>566208749
I unironically just bought D4
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>no swords waaaaaahhhh even though GGG """"teased""""" it
all of you niggers rn
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>>566208693
>>566208740

>>566208914
both of these are trash. Infernalist plants into coc spark is literally the only serviceable build in the game
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I just purchased Diablo IV
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>>566209082
>Here's your 50 new uniques every league, 5 of which are useable
And in case of Last Lament, if its good, they will nerf to the ground next patch.
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>>566209049
He also said that's what they balance for, that means I'm playing the game correctly instead of bug abusing with the current streamer FOTM build.
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>>566209119
Congrats bro. Enjoy a real ARPG. I'm playing dread claws 'lock
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>>566209124
the frogs are turning gay tho
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>>566208749
Yeah we're all switching
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>>566209124
I've been waiting for them since early access launched
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>>566208805
i started playing poe1 before there was an atlas, they added the atlas and it was cool as fuck, over the years it became irrelevant.
i find the poe2 atlas more fun than what poe1 turned into.
you don't like it, that's fine, but you not liking it doesn't make it bad.
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>>566208735
>You realize the entire campaign plays like that, right?
If you mean poop2 then people complain ad naseum about it being a fucking slog, as soon as anyone manages to get a build online the game falls over in front of them. These games aren't built for meaninful combat, why is there a dodge roll in the game when your character has evade and dodge(?) stats. Same question why was there active block when your character has block stats. These games are RPG's first and made for people who can appreciate that the character is doing the actions to avoid these mechanics because he was built so.

Whilst you have these stats in the game and you have so many uniques/passives/support gems/mods on items the game becomes impossible to balance and people like Jung will find out how to screen clear and everyone will copy him. There is no room for meaningful combat when 50 mobs juiced to the gills run at you with no room to react, and that's fine because it wouldn't be fun if you were expected to. These people want a game that does not exist and cannot exist with this depth of a modifier pool.

https://www.twitch.tv/lianj/clip/BeautifulFancyWoodcockTooSpicy
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>>566208059
He is right, you know
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>>566208154
my ai has detected some kraut lingo in this post
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>>566209182
im trans and indian btw idk if that matters
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>>566209082
this is what happens when you have a directionless, pie-in-the-sky leader, who is nothing more than an ideas guy who played elden ring once and insisted on running a video game studio
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>>566209119
The warlock and paladin are both better designed than any poe class. Super fun.
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>Undecember new season in 2 days
>Ravenswatch new season 2 days before 0.5
Well, see you guys in 0.6 since 1.0 will not be released this year.
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They're going to charge for Templar, Shadow and Marauder in the Tencent MTX shop.
GGG are so scummy.
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>GGG said POE1 isn't getting a league until after POE2 is out
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Diablo 4 good
PoE 2 bad
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Guys... I think Morrowind won (again)
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I haven't played since 0.2. I'm seeing a lot of outrage over swords not being added. Does this mean axes were already put in?
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D4, Diablo 4
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What do I think of the announcement?
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It's called PoE2 because there are two tubs worth of content per league mechanic
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fh6 won
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>>566209330
>the co-founder of the company, the guy who wrote the engine and designed some of the best systems in poe 1 doesn't know what he is doing
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>>566209532
No new weapons since early access launched. You're still with gay little dinky maces.
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>>566209556
You're very excited. Endgame got massively improved
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>>566209556
POE2 = BAD
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>>566209556
Buy Diablo 4
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>>566209575
do nips even buy porsches?
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i find it funny how me (a big poe2 disliker) is getting attacked now by the poe2 secondaries because i said that the patch looks okayish, they are really mad because no swords
a few months ago when i said poe2 bad they would crucify me and try to dox but now that im calling the patch okayish they harass the fuck out of me, pretty funny
you can literally tell that they are secondaries cause they obsess over new weapons so much
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Soooo I guess I just have to go on waiting another 30 years for an actual Diablo 1 sequel huh.

Diablo 2 is not my Diablo 2 and all it's bastard children should've been aborted and slopped into a bucket in a boomers cup in some casino where they belong.

I just want to slowly isometricly step through the darkness and open a door to horrors I can't comprehend that cause me to physically run back up the stairs and out. I don't wanna farm the orbs for the mechanic for the mechanic on the mechanic that makes my screen explode green instead of blue anymore.
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>>566209556
Take this opportunity to leave live service games and funnel all that energy into irl hobbies or forwarding your career.
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>>566209556
You are thinking that you will play D4 instead
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>>566209082
Swords add nothing to the game. Only retards care about what kind of stick they're holding when using the same skills.
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have they made it so you can choose your map layouts yet
or do you still have to play giga dogshit layouts
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>>566209630
No axes or swords? But the nodes are still on the skill tree. Curious
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I missed the stream, did doomers win or lose?
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>>566209783
retard
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>>566209808
Doomers lost bigly
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>>566209721
>Soooo I guess I just have to go on waiting another 30 years for an actual Diablo 1 sequel huh.

That already exists, it's called Dark Souls
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>>566209454
'vke
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>>566209808
Doomkings won. Troonathan lost.
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>>566209820
you're right, the game is bald. the answer is obvious
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>>566209808
>no swords
Doomers won bigly
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>>566209808
Both sides switched to the opposite. We have a massive pile of content that meaningfully increases build and gameplay diversity and the shitters hate it because no swords
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I'm not that into poe2 so i'm indifferent to the whole thing but i don't know why people are dooming. It looks like a pretty good patch, people wanted more endgame stuff and they added a bunch of pinnacle stuff to farm. The only problem is, i couldn't see any new skills, so you're stuck playing whatever you played last time and poe2 already had weak build diversity. Yeah there's some kalgurann stuff and innate skills but i'm not counting those. Anyway i haven't watched the twitch thing so maybe i'm missing out on stuff
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>>566209808
d4jeets lost
POO1 troonies *ACK*'d
poe2GODS are back
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>>566209956
why are doomers so obsessed with swords? does this mean that doomers are secondaries?(pls dont confuse me with a poe2 fag i dislike that game)
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i cant read the threads fast enough. please stop posting.
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Umm, actually, releasing a half baked game is good when GGG does it, chud.
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I hope he will be strong boss and they will explain why does he have so many hands
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>>566209808
If you were hoping for PoE2 to be a finished game that was a more satisfying play experience and looking forward to a future of comfy content, you get nothing.

If you were a 42 year old loser who absolutely requires to farm the new thumbnails with the new blue screen of death flashing 'build' you're happy as a clam right now.

GGG won't exist as a company past the year 2035 because their playerbase they have tripled down on all will die from health related issues stemming from sedentary lifestyle over the next 10 years.
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>>566209808
>no new classes
>no new weapons
>no new acts
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>>566209603
>designed the systems
he coded them, he didnt come up with how they would work retard
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>>566209997
>It looks like a pretty good patch, people wanted more endgame stuff and they added a bunch of pinnacle stuff to farm.
This isn't what people wanted for endgame
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>>566209808
No swords, doomsisters rejoicing.
What's funny is that GGG themselves were baiting swords and hyped up everyone. It's a self-inflicted wound.
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poop2? Dogshit
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>>566209997
Build diversity and variety comes from new skills, which in this game are linked to specific weapons. There are no new weapons therefore no new skills to try out.
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>no new classes
>no new weapons
>no new spells/skills
Boring contentslop league. What's the point in playing when you're just gonna spam Lightning Arrow on Deadeye the entire league again?
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>>566210097
>Redditspacing
go back tranny
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>>566209980
>We have a massive pile of content
Brother 90% of the content reveal is endgame tweaks and streamlines and quality of life, ONE of the endgame contents have a new boss
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>>566210075
so I have to wait like 2 more years for swords and duelist?
grim
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>>566209808
Doomers have never won so big
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>>566209270
This is what people don't understand. The only way to make combat "meaningful" is to make character builds either a) meaningless or b) a puzzle with a very limited number of true answers. The whole appeal of poe is how open ended everything is, how crazy you can scale your character etc.
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>>566210052
Swords in this instance stands for swords: literal, new acts, new classes, new skills. We are getting none of them and instead getting a 'rework' of the endgame which hasn't reworked anything people didn't like.
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>>566210075
>Release more shit afterthought story and more temporary mechanics is more ideal to focus on than core systemic foundational content like character classes in a game where the very notion and existence of it's passive tree demands these characters exist so that the items can exist.
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The soulslike aura of this game.
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Axes status?
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>>566209997
>Why are people dooming
POE1troons are dooming because the devs didn't immediately capitulate to their every demand and turn the game into, literally, a reskin/reshade mod for POE1
POE2bros are dooming because the devs are clearly capitulating to the POE1troons by adding faster, more powerful gearing and juicing strats which continues the trend of 2's gameplay getting worse patch-on-patch since 0.3.
D4dads are dooming because GGG didn't add whatever autistic shit they're pretending matters, like swords
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>game is drowning in league mechanics and crafting items and its not even 1.0
bleak stuff
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>>566210115
the skill tree and the skill/supports were the tub mans doing.
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>>566210075
>>566210258
literally no one other than secondaries gives a fuck about new weapons, acts or classes
endgame is the only thing that matters and its where their focus should be, maybe even removing the acts
you secondaries should just stay in your elden rings and skyrims
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>>566210215
>>566210216
I saw some new skills, ones that need no specific weapon, from the rune thingie or something
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>>566210303
maybe in 2030
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>>566210421
yeah and look at poo2s version of both of those. Absolute trash tier
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>>566210234
We have a new boss each for ritual, expedition, and delirium as well as a new arbiter
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>>566209808
>no new class
>no new weapon
>no new act
>no tota
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>>566210249
You can make combat flashy and fast and spammy but fun.

The problem is GGG's melee combat is atrocious and doens't make sense in their own game. They have the warrior take 12 years to do a piddly little wack yet the ranger can turbospeed shoot 40 lighting arrows a second that chain explosions everywhere.

All they have to do is make melee anime as fuck and it would be both beneficial to the game and fun for melee enjoyers, but we all know 1.0 rolls around the only way to actually have tangible fun in the videogame will be to LA Deadeye once again.
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PoE 2 has too much content, the should just cut swords and call it a day.
Do we really need MORE bloat?
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>we're not getting templar until 2028
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>>566210429
You just keep saying the same thing over and over again. You are an autistic retarded faggot
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No way troonathan is going to release 1.0 at the same time as GTA6. It's a fucking kek
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>>566210429
I'll just continue making more builds in poo1 instead, something you can't do it poo2.
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back to warframe then
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Endgame troons made them waste 6 months on stuff no one cares about instead of the things real players want like more campaign, classes and weapons
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>>566210216
>no new skills
Uhhh bro? After hitting level 80 and acquiring the kalguuran gem of kino game design, every 8 seconds you can sacrifice 30 ward to channel for 1 second to stand up and yell "KINO", which makes your next lightning arrow that hits an immobilized enemy deal its shock buildup as ignite buildup instead. What do you mean no new skills???
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>>566210357
I'm glad I'm getting the sequel I was promised 1740 supporter packs ago, but this patch looks very underwhelming. Six months for some runes and some bloated league mechanics. An atlas passive tree where you don't even have to make any tough decisions and can get every point is quite a choice, too. The juice is going to be insane at the top end which means we'll get another kino league of 2dads crying about Fubgun raping them.
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>>566210523
I genuinely think when swords are put in the game they will be seen as pointless 'sharp maces' that play no different yet dilute the drop pool.
They'll probably just cancel axes honestly.
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>>566210476
>pooooo pooo poo poooo
based
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>>566210524
2030*
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Ok, im going to bed now.
And when i wake up i still gonna be ASSBLASTED MAD THAT BREACH 2.0 WITH GENESIS TREE MADE IT IN
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>>566210562
>GTA6

I bet they didn't even think or consider this at all.
I look forward to the post Exilecon video update in December that says aaaactually were delaying to March and this will give us more time to rework Breach for the 5th time (they will make sure to include the 4th Breach rework in 1.0)
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>an autistic adult man has decided to avatarfag as an anime girl and spam the words "secondary" and "I dont play the game"
terrible use of free will. You really fit right in on vg.
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>delirium monsters still don't work with hoi
well fuck you too
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we want new endgame mechanics its the only thing that matters in this game, why are secondaries so mad? because they're not getting their new epic swords and now they can't "immerse" themselves and "explore" the map for 30 minutes while "roleplaying" as some epic anime protagonist?
>>566210552
>You just keep saying the same thing over and over again
as do dozens of others today
>>566210567
i mean you're right, poe2 is a bad game( i very much dislike it) but i despise its fanbase
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I just started playing poe/arpgs this past year but what the fuck man? Does anyone actually like clicking 30 different currency fragments? Why can't enemies just drop (useful item) or nothing? Do people really think its not a problem that you literally cannot see the ground without an item filter? I just want to fight monsters not remember a gorillion different crafting currencies. Should I just start playing grim dawn?
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>>566210524
They've already silently cancelled Templar, he was a red head after all. He's going to be replaced by a black woman who uses Quarterstaves too and flails are also cancelled.
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>>566210429
Ending has never mattered for anyone pal, this has game loses 90% of the playerbase in a couple months
This is not because the playerbase completes the whole endgame in two months and dips
It took me two/three weeks to complete the campaing because I only play some hours per week
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>>566210215
The weapon specific thing really limits how fast they can expand, but i guess they wanted to give everything specific animations. They could've added new skills for existing weapons i suppose but they didn't do that either
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>>566210593
I wonder how big part of the playerbase (including all the casuals that are interested) even play the endgame at all
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>>566210893
Play D4
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holy shit
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GGG wants the hardcore gamer crowd. You guys are hardcore gamers, right?
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The fact that there's people that care more about swords than an extremely needed endgame rework tells you a lot about how many casual 10 hour per league players GGG has pulled in for PoE2. It's actually insane to me that people are disappointed with what was revealed.
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>>566210865
>we want new endgame mechanics
You said you played poe2 for 5 hours, you've never played the poe2 endgame. Secondary.

And sure, people wanted something different for endgame, but an even bigger pile of shit is maybe not what they intended.
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>>566210893
Grim Dawn is kino, but you'll have to learn about monster infrequent rares and that might you scare you off.
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So did they add the new Ascendancy Trial in Act 4 or not?
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>>566211000
>people
doomers aren't people
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>>566210724
>GGG in one fell swoop ensures SSF can never be fun by introducing the unbelievably broken-for-gearing breach tree so we'll have to farm it endlessly every league
t-thanks
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>>566210987
I like playing more than one game
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>>566210893
>Play grim dawn
>Get a green item with a star next to it
>It's good and you put it on
Yes, you should. it's not a live service forevergame, but that's a good thing.
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Axes?
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>>566211000
No one cares about endgame slop other than terminally online 20 hour per day streamer fags. Real players want content instead of autistic grindslop.
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>titan quest 2 adds 3 new classes
>d4 adds 2 new classes
>poe2 cant even add 1
Can anyone explain why that is?
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PoE 2 needs more farm consumables
I specifically mean things that you consume to farm, like tablets.

My argument is that these tend to be the things that people doing alch & go or that are late to the party in a league tend to sell to juicers to get their legs, however, as the game stands right now, since most of the valuable loot is used for crafting gear (or tablets, but I'll get to those) the result is that the economy mostly flows in one direction.

Regarding tablets, those aren't like scarabs in that they are rolled and have a rarity, leading into a situation where the better a tablet is, the more expensive it is, which wouldn't be a big deal if they weren't the only (or almost the only?) consumable for farming, which means that after a certain point only people that can get the more powerful tablets can sell them, thus we go back to the problem of the economy being dead to players behind the pack.

This compounds with how gear dependant character power is in poe 2, but that's a separate issue that would be better discussed after we get a passive skill tree overhaul.
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>>566203297
no rarity changes, no nerfs. Too much "we know this sucks but we didnt have time and saving it for 1.0"

Yeah i feel like i should wait for 1.0. Or 1.1 since 1.0 will be broken in 25 ways.
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>>566210893
get a better filter and don't pick up useless shit. its really easy, unless you play ssf and are forced to pick everything but that's a restriction you forced upon yourself
>>566210910
bingo! great post, really summarizes the essence of the average poe2 secondary
>>566211002
i've seen lots of new endgame stuff being presented today so that's decent, the secondaries are mad cuz no swords. cant cosplay as guts and no new acts(funniest thing they're mad over) no one gives a fuck about acts other than the biggest of secondaries
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>>566211071
imo monster infrequents are a huge pro for grim dawn as a relatively casual game and really don't even need explaining. They're simple and easily farmable build enablers that you'll see a gajillion of in one area and quickly realize "Oh, this area drops really good piercing daggers".
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>>566211000
Content that exists only at the end and is just a minutia of soup of 12 nested systems that all just boil down to screen explode green instead of blue means nothing to normal gamers.

The core characters and weapon types are foundational content that the game absolutely requires. The passive tree exists in this game literally for that reason. None of us have played Path of Exile 2 yet, we've played Path of Ranger. They are the main character and everyone else is an afterthought.
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>>566211167
GGG listen to their retarded streamers like Ben who want a shitty forevergame while other games are designed to be played by humans which is why they add classes and new acts.
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>>566211167
my guess is their entire animation and design team is busy copypasting poe1 assets and then celebrating christmas with their families for 4-5 months
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Legitimately not trying to defend PoE 2 here but reading comments made by poe players just makes me go insane. I saw people go "but I thought they got rid of towers???" when Jonathan brought up the Fortress endgame quest thing and it's just... how can you even formulate a thought that retarded? There is an equivalent comment just flowing from poe player's mouths for every single mechanic.
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You can literally copy paste reddit blog posts and get free (You)s
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POE2... easy on the ziggurats...
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>>566211167
titan quest 2 flopped
t. bought it
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The updates are nice... However
While i appreciate them putting so much effort into end game i would like to see more of a shift toward getting the base sorted first then focus on fixing endgame. Such as working on releasing all the classes finishing the acts rather than so much focus of things that can be adjusted in future leagues once the base is complete.
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>>566211072
Of course not.
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>>566211501
It's already a better game than poe2
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WHY THE FUCK CANT THESE RETARDED NIGGGERS ADD SWORDS ITS BEEN 6 FUCKING YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT AND ALMOST 2 YEARS OF EARLY ACCESS AND STILL NO FUCKING SWORDS I DONT WANT TO SMASH WITH MACES LIKE A FUCKING RETARD I DONT WANT TO TWIDDLE AROUND WITH QUARTERSTAVES LIKE A FUCKING FAGGOT I DONT WANT TO CHUCK SPEARS LIKE A FUCKING NIGGER I WANT TO FUCKING SLASH WITH A SWORD ITS THE MOST UNIVERSAL STANDARD WEAPON OF ALL TIME AND THESE NEW ZEALAND CHUCKLEFUCKS CANT DO ANYTHING RIGHT ITS IN THE FUCKING GAME LET ME SLASH WITH IT I DONT NEED DUELIST OR ANY GAY CHARGE SKILLS JUST LET IT DROP!!!
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Overfal its just a way better endgame experience, with a significant number of fun objectives to complete.
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>>566209284
>>566208059
Stranger of Paradise already perfected the "Diablo clone with actual gameplay" subgenre. Just play that instead of expecting Cookie Clicker 2 to somehow develop real gameplay (it won't happen).
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>>566211398
I saw a guy on stream going "that's it? just a couple of side quests? what do you do when you finish them"
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>>566210498
this, hopesissies cannot refute this and doomGODS win by default as result
sad
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People bitching about no duelist or swords but the bigger issue is no TOTA.
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>>566211486
this looks fucking AWFUL.
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>>566211336
if your experience with poe2 was just doing what your streamer was doing then character or weapons don't matter.
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>>566211398
poe2 players were always retarded but this update they exposed themselves
>>566211617
im not looking for a diablo clone, i never was. i never played diablo games, im basically what you would call arpg secondary
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>>566211274
>bingo! great post, really summarizes the essence of the average poe2 secondary
So I guess you think I'm a "secondary" because I don't play endgame a lot, my point is that YOU are "secondary" because people that stays to play endgame are the small minority
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i play SSF so it's fun looking at the new features during a reveal and trying to guess how much of it will be complete and total unobtainium I will never have the chance to use
like when they brought up that cool memory strand crafting in Secrets of the Atlas and I got exactly 1 orb of any of the 3 types during that league
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>>566211523
This. It feels like I'm taking crazy pills. Why the fuck are they working on endgame shit instead of finishing the fucking game.
PoE2 is one of the most mismanaged games I've ever seen.
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>>566211336
>None of us have played Path of Exile 2 yet, we've played Path of Ranger.
jesus christ you are pathetic
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Twenty-two (22) more days until the league launches with no new class, no new weapon, no TOTA, no campaign acts.
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>>566211758
>i never played diablo games
why would you even play poe then?
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it all makes sense when you realize all the problems of poe2 is Johnathan doing the exact opposite of poe1. the biggest example is the infinite atlas compared to the poe1 maps and charms instead of flasks. also no masteries and life on the passive tree in 2.
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I have not played Ranger in POE2 and I will never play Ranger in POE2 because Ranger is the class for fubtrannies that hate gameplay.
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>>566211000
the end game content they added doesn't belong in an arpg. Fucking questlines? Get the fuck out of here. atlas completion into bossing is so much better than this. Fucking 500 different new currencies? This is trash
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>>566211837
>Why the fuck are they working on endgame shit instead of finishing the fucking game?
Blame streamtroons
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>we're back
Bro the game is dead.
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>>566211375
lol, Ben had absolutely nothing to do with the shit they just put out, this is massive cope. Guaranteed he will shit on this trash
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>>566211817
I've learned 10 years ago to completely skip the "look at this cool new unique" sections of the reveal.
It's shit that I will never ever see, i was hyped for them when I was a teen retard, going "woo look at that item is so powerful and great!!" and then I would play and never ever in my life see that item.
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>>566211837
this is a very good point
maybe the small dedicated endgame playerbase keeps buying microtransactions?
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>>566211939
it insane how your post is pretty much everything what >>566211398 described. like talking to absolute gorilla monkey IQ level retards.
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>>566212049
drip feeding casual content isn't going to do anything other than dilute the 1.0 hype.
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>>566211837
Because after like 0.1 or whatever it was everyone said there wasn't enough endgame and that gave them some kind of mental trauma
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>>566211486
I aesthetically hate this endgame atlas. It looks like a PS2 port of a CIV game. It's atrocious looking. I vastly preferred the paper map scroll sprawl we had. This just looks like shit.

Imo, they need to scrap the atlas with an actual endgame, open world infinitely repeating minecraft like zone instead if they're doing this. Something you can physically travese and just endlessly play and get lost in.
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>>566211781
yep, i think you're a secondary. you probably care about "immersion" and "meaningful combat", a real poe fan doesn't care about those, we just want endgame mechanics and to blast maps. the game shouldn't be catered to you(and it isn't thankfully) sorry if i sound mean
>>566211939
so i started playing poe in open beta, i was on skype with a bunch of guys from /v/ and one guy was showing us the huge skill tree so i ended up downloading it cuz free game
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I bought poe2 and I've been trolled. Have fun with your game.
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>>566212296
It's too late, this is the system they're sticking with forever
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>>566211920
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Reminder 1.0 was supposed to release last year LOL
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>>566212384
sure it was.
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>>566212393
Why does he have so many hands?
After playing Keepers I really want to know who is he. I mean people said that's Chayula, but who is Chayula, a god?
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>>566211375
>other games are designed to be played by humans
is that why blizzard keep releasing full-price games with 5-6 hours of content?
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>>566212317
>a real poe fan doesn't care about those
You are not even a true gamer if you dont care about that, you are just a zombie. ggg caters to you because youre loud and annoying and spend your manchild bucks on the game.
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>>566211837
The sore point is that all this content they add for endgame/leagues etc has to be gone back over later once they add new characters. It's highly inefficient working like this as they have to retrace their steps. Which they literally have just done, they've spent all this work on redoing something they already paused development of the main game the first time to make.

Absolutely ridiculous. Just add the fucking characters into the game what is the damn holdup. Warrior has the most barebones basic simplistic combat out there in an arpg for melee. This isn't some grandiose complex shit. Put the fucking guy who swings the daggers and the swords into the game and build them up over time. Remove the tier gating on skills and have them available from the start of the game without level requirements and only stat requirements and let us have fun. Add more skills for the new chars as you go.
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>>566212513
PoE 2 endgame is 6 hours of content
You're just forced to do 12 hours of campaign every league
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>>566212393
oh nonon onono HAHAHAHA
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So... is Martial Artist or Spirit Walker going to enable some new builds or....
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>>566212384
Reminder: 7 Acts and swords were supposed to release in 2020


GGG make shit up and tell us lies for things they have yet to even do, the promise what doesn't exist.
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>>566212481
>Why does he have so many hands?
Designed by Horikoshi

>Who is Chayula
Yeah he's a god dude, god of dreams or something. People said he's high tier now because GGG changed the lore or something
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>>566212565
why would they have to go over endgame content because they added a new character model?
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>>566212481
hes the god of chaos damage from the alternative breach dimension
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>>566212317
I think YOU're a secondary. You probably care about "blast maps" and "endgame mechanics", a real poe fan doesn't care about those, we just want meaninful combat and cool NPCs. The game shouldn't be catered to you(and it isn't, we only had 1 (one) endgame tweak league out of 4 releases, and with this done the next release won't be also endgame content, thankfully) sorry if i sound mean
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>>566207805
>no you should like maze maps because
>JUST BECAUSE OK
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>>566211920
Tota?
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>>566212547
>>566212783
the essence of poe is literally blast mobs and get more loot like its father diablo(not a diablo gamer myself but im pretty sure its literally the same like that game)
you can call me a zombie or whatever you like but if you're looking to "immerse" yourself or "roleplay" or whatever the fuck, you're playing the wrong game and are a definition of a secondary
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>>566210893
Loot should only drop at the end of a league mechanic or at the end of a map. This would be far more satisfying and easier to manage but people won't go for it because people accept any turd ggg shits out.
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>>566212685
LOL
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>>566212724
Because the entire game balance will get shifted and broken anyway everytime they introduce new weapon types nodes and all the rest, are you retarded? Not to mention all the content only drops items for the current characters, Duelist will be added to a game where every single bit of content drops bows and maces and quarterstaves.They will have to go back over to Breach and add breach swords and shields, expedition swords, ritual armours etc etc


They're making a pizza where they're actively cooking it in the oven while still making the dough and just slopping flour all over the kitchen having to keep cleaning up and cutting off the burnt bits and slappign fresh dough back on to patch it up. It's the most retarded game development I've witnessed since something like duke nukem forever.
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All this new stuff seems cool but I still don't have a build I want to play. Even less so for builds that just work out of the gate and don't require pinnacle boss uniques.
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I just took a fat dump
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>>566213012
if you aren't trolling you might unironically be mentally retarded.
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>>566213146
>special pleadings for skill design now
lmao
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>>566212876
You can keep deluding yourself like that, you probably are a tranny or tranny lover, I can see.
But you can't disprove reality, that out of 4 releasees, this is the only one that has endgame "focus" (And 1.0 will be mostly immersion and acts and story, probably with no new endgame)
Doesn't that tells you something "secondary" anon?
Probably not
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>>566213012
>They will have to go back over to Breach and add breach swords and shields, expedition swords, ritual armours etc etc
Sounds fun and interesting, like they're building out the playground so that each new class will provide a deeper experience once released rather than only having a shallow demo of a game but with all the classes that can't meaningfully be distinguished between each other.
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>>566213196
he's completely right chudbeit
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>>566213196
If you think them adding in a new character won't cause them to have to go over ultimatum, ritual, abyss, breach, delirium, expedition and the ascendancy trials etc etc again you're the one who's mentally retarded. GGG are going to be stuck chasing their tails adding new content ontop of redoing the content they did.
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>adding endgame shit is considered streamtroon shit here now
i didnt know that this place is so casual
why are there so many secondaries who just want to immerse themselves in the campaign and spend 45 minutes exploring the zones while cosplaying as guts with their ultra huge greatswords? how did they even end up here?
>>566213286
endgame = only thing that matters in poe
if you don't care about endgame you're a secondary playing a wrong game
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>>566213392
Hime should have sex with me
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>>566213359
That's not what will happen. They will simply just launch the new character and in the process of going over the old content for them just end up changing their minds for the nth time and we're back to square one.

Look forward to NuNuDelirium at Exilecon.
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why is this thread particularly insincere and retarded today
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>>566213392
Cocky motherfucker.
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>>566213359
The characters already can't be distinguished from each other. They play the same. If your character isn't shitting out lightning or frost all over the screen regardless who it is, you may as well not be playing the game.
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Do we know if they've updated defenses at all? I'm tempted to play phys damage Huntress but I'm not dealing with how bad Evasion is again
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are there any good spear skills? i want to try out pure evasion sorc ward with spear this league,
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>>566213364
>>566213373
they've already added new classes, ascendancies and weapon types...
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I don't have a real reason I wanted to play Shadow or Templar in PoE 2, the Ascendancies are in general generic enough, but I am still bummed they didn't make it.
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>>566213392
Better endgame was wanted yes
Adding a bunch of shit on top of the shit doesn't necessarily mean it will be better
SYBAU you don't even play it anyway
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>>566213676
i only watched a bit of the stream but mark mentioned buffing all defenses
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>>566213392
>endgame = only thing that matters in poe
>Out of 5 releases we'll do 1(one) endgame "focused" release
>So those other 4 releases huh uuh don't matter huh huhh uuuh
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spirit walker or martial artist?
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>>566213685
twister is still good, especially on witch hunter with its 100 billion passives u can use one for setting up and the other for releasing
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>>566213524
No they won't, these league mechanics have never been reworked before since implemented. Adding new classes is irrelevant to the function of these mechanics anyway, no idea why you fail to understand that.
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>>566213780
new endgame shit is always good, and you got extremely hostile when i said that the essence of poe is blasting maps and getting loot. makes me think you're a secondary
>>566213825
i wouldnt know about other releases i havent played them except day one(nor i plan on playing this release)
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>>566213196
He's right though?
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>>566213146
For what purpose
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>>566213929
If the new shit is shit, then its more shit. More shit is not better than less shit. Ideally they would make something that isn't shit
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>>566213392
Streamtroons have been killing the game from minute one thoughbeit
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>>566213929
>i wouldnt know about other releases i havent played them except day one(nor i plan on playing this release)
>won't be playing the ONE (1) release that's about endgame
Jesus christ you sure fucking baited me, "secondary" troll lol
Alright, alright
You got me lol
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>>566214026
It doesn't really look shit, looks like classic perennially popular ARPG gameplay. What are you expecting, some kid of martial weapon sim like Half Sword?
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>>566213972
didn't they already add new classes and weapons to the game? i guess they figured out a work around.
another masterstroke from based jonathan.
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>>566214026

>I don't like this turd on a plate
>well how about 5 turds on the same plate? More is better right, its new shit you've never seen before
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was expecting the endgame rework to be lesser tedious things to do instead of whatever the fuck kind of mess is this thing is
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>>566214227
>figured out a work aroun
Yeah it's called spending 5 times the time you'd normally need lmao
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>>566214213
It does look liek shit. They've just added checklist format to the shit that was already there, so now you get a questlog of all the shit you have to eat and you can feel a sense of achievement as you complete guzzling down all the shit on the list
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>>566214026
so that means that poe 2 = big shit
>>566214167
i don't know what streamtroons opinions are or what they want. if i'd have to guess you don't like the "zoomy" modern nature of the game and blame the streamers
>>566214171
doubt ill play it
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>>566214227
Huntress and Druid existed since 2022.
The game was already built accounting for them. Not the same as suddenly Shadow and traps and daggers appearing in the game and all sorts of new systems and mechanics and changes to the tree and then having to make sure there are sufficient rewards and items in all the content to make them want to play it.

This is not the last time you will see GGG redo Expedition, Ritual, Delirium, Breach etc. They will go over them again again.
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>Here's another shitty league mechanic we slapped onto the campaign where it doesn't fit aesthetically
>It's got this ugly menu that pops up
>If you interact with the menu, YOU GET AN ORB OF AUGMENTATION
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow *clap clap clap*
amazing 10/10 mobile phone gameplay GGG you've done it again!
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>>566214413
They've clearly added a lot more, and all of it is optional because its a fucking game. You are more than welcome to quit as soon as you complete the campaign and never come back, no one cares.
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Every league reveal the doomsissies get louder, so I end up mistaken when I assume they're actually going to quit the game for real this time, but they never do and I look like a fool.
So I'll see you all on the beach in 3 weeks.
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>>566214589
the nearest beach is in act 4 though
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>>566214506
shadown and tarps existed since 2012
WOAH!
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dead on arrival
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>>566214506
Nothing about adding classes requires reworking major endgame mechanics. You are vastly overthinking this
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>>566214535
melty
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>>566213658
>instead of ascendancies occupying unique character niches, they are all identity-less palette swaps of the base class except with some bullshit gimmick node
I get less and less excited about poe2 as time goes on. Muh ranger with 3 rings, muh ranger with accuracy stacking, muh ranger with wisps. It's all fucking ai slop

Why arren't we getting a beastmaster? Or arcane archer? Or better poison shit?

Why are the three warrior classes so trash? Why is druid so trash? Fucking zimbabwe minion summoner witch? Who fucking asked for that weird ass shit what the hell is even that?
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>>566211486
Holy AI slop.
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Any rework to +skills being the most important stat in the game? Would love to try out some of the unique legendary gear but I’m not gonna waste my time if everything HAS to be +skill levels with movement speed triple res boots
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>>566214675
The short beach you wash up on after creating your character
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>>566214542
Brother you will still be on a infinite generated map doing delirium and breach and ritual and expedition, they just turned them into a questline with more bullshit. Its fundamentally the same thing with more bloat added to each thing. its like saying you want a new car, and they just add a bunch of bodykit and spoilers and crap to your existing car. Its the same endgame at its core.
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the d4jeet falseflags+doomposting is getting obnoxiously transparent ngl
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They're laughting at you.
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>>566214882
D4chads don't need to shitpost us. They're already slaughtering us in concurrent players.
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can't they make these league mechanic tree turn into scarabs instead? I don't want to touch any of these pinnacle bosses
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>>566214994
bfr doesn't look like he's laughing
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>>566214542
>They've clearly added a lot more
A lot more crap

>no actual end-game rework
>no actual gameplay balancing
>more menus
>more shitty systems to abuse
>no new weapons
>no new skills
>no new classes
>no new acts
>no new Ascendancy Trial (promised for 0.4 btw)
>more more more types of currencies to collect (and stash tabs to buy)
>more minigames that don't tie into the campaign
>more shit copy pasted from poe 1
>more focus on breach/deli/ritual/expedition (nobody fucking cares about these they don't work just remove them)
>Temple is now locked into the game (lol)
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>>566212685
yeah, enjoy your General's Cry for Monks :)
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>>566215095
He's laughing.
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>>566214718

>10 Social Credit has been deposited into your account!
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>biggest update ever!!!
>look inside
>no new classes, weapons or acts
Wake me up when 0.6 releases
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blizzdrone cope thread
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>>566214690
literally what is the purpose of this? You just do less damage and have to stand still and die to channel it.
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>can't even look him in the eyes as he says this
it's over...
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I'm going to the bathroom to post a big endgame update
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>4 reheated leagues
>no brand new league
>one or two new pinnacles
>still infinite atlass
>no new class
>no tota
>no act 5
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>>566215441
funny how jon immediately showed how much more he despises chris than otherwise. we really are hurting without him
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I'm going to start a month late like i always do and enjoy the league more than anyone else here.
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>>566215570
your pasta is wrong, time to gape you
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>>566215583
with Chris Wilson, we wouldnt have async trade
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Will there be any way to giga-juice the groidsmash monkey boss to actually be a viable minion for endgame?
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>>566215674
ASYNC trade is dogshit and sovlless
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So Jonnyboy was really the man behind Path of Exile, huh? Why would Chris expose himself as a mere salesman with his new video, it might be the greatest sabotage
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>>566215754
If there's some sort of catch it'll be a hidden gay mod
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>>566214781
+skill level on gear is still mandatory, it’s never going away and 97% of the uniques will never be usable
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>>566215754
Tamed bosses will do -90% dmg sorry
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Have doomers ever been BTFO this badly before?
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If they end up dropping a Gladiatior/Swords reveal a few days before leaguestart would that be cringe or based
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>>566216197
DoomGODs won massively thoughbeit
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why is there a fucking forest behind him is he living in the jungles
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>>566203906
Dead game for retarded trannys
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Path of DOGSHIT 2
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>>566216428
>New Zealand
Yes
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Path of no-weapons 2
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skippingtheleague chads eating good. I’m full but could go for seconds!
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Path of fun 2
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>>566215960
Just like Todd the God, Chris has always been the frontman. Look at how well he hyped up a diablo2 clone full of 500$ "micro" transactions for years. And the players love him for it.
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Diablo 4 Lord of KINO
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they didnt rework the endgame
adding extra jelly to a pb&j sandwich doesnt make it a new sandwich
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>>566203297
Adding league mechanics in beta was a huge mistake
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Poe2 status?
D4 status?
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what the fuck are the edicts
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The world atlas is staying, if you want the og atlas you're not going to get it. They're like 3 leagues in on adding shit to the world atlas. It's staying
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you WILL run sekhma to get your points
you WILL run vaal temple layouts back to back
you WILL still get onetapped offscreen + ground degen evaporates your puny wardpool

and you will like it
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>>566217009
Its like an override command if the world gets out of order or something and they come back and kill everyone, it's like the flood from the bible but instead of Noah you've got a guy with hands for wings
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Wait so they just copied poo1 stuff and added it in poo2?
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We're getting GTA 6 before swords in PoE2 KEKW
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Yea I’m thinking I skip this league. Is 1.0 next? I’ll just wait for that.
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>>566217234
i've never had an issue doing sekhemas even in 0.1 when it was hot shit. Trial of chaos is also dead easy.
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>>566217009
contingency plans for if the world got too damaged by corruption
first edict presumably is "we'll leave some automated defenses/constructs to cleanse it"
third edict presumably is "in case we can't do it ourselves we'll make a weapon anyone can use that kills the Beast"
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>>566217045
They could have just worked the Temple mechanic into the atlas and saved the game, now they have 2 separate mechanics that will forever be dogshit
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>>566215967
>cycling buff
STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPUU
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>>566215851
You would rather whisper 30 people for a simple trade? Fuck you.
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>>566217783
what's the second?
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>>566217749
>Trial of chaos is also dead easy.
It's also dead boring, probably the worst gameplay I've seen in any game lately, how have they not reworked it
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>>566217926
oh no I love Trials. With the right build you just move your character and nothing else. Free mirrors every 10 hours or less. Only faggots dislike it.
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how much has the game evolved since 0.1 if at all?
like 2 new classes, 2 new acts? some endgame stuff?
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I am incredibly distraught at all the casualization they announced. The yellow paint is dixon buttes gay.
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Have the new Mageblood stats been revealed?
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>>566218076
yeah
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>>566204045
Not enough people are saying this.
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alright, whats the verdict? how full is the tub?
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I know no one cares about they story but did they really have to go over the story beats of every new questline?
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>>566218063
the campaign is finished. 1.0 is ready. eat your slop piggy.
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>>566218190
Nice
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>>566218063
The pizza base is more cooked now but they had to remove the burnt mushrooms and replace them with fresh ones, also had to rotate the pizza in the oven, cut off the burnt side and slap on fresh wet dough that hasn't risen yet grafted onto that side, but it's now rising in the oven and forming like a large spongey crust they've now decided to stuff with extra cheese and garlic.

Later on when the pizza is more cooked they'll scrape off the burnt charcoal from the underside and then recook the whole thing with a single new ingredient added before drowning it all in olive oil as they serve it up
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>>566218257
>No one cares about the story
I do
this is why I'm annoyed that they told me the whole fucking thing
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>>566216973
>Poe2 status?
getting better but much slower than is reasonable
>D4 status?
raped, gaped, humiliated, dead, buried
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>>566218257
Yes GGG love to spoil all their content because they don't have anything substantial to show.

Everything they showed in the livestream was indeed it. No need to play now, we've already seen all the bosses and content.
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>>566217920
Read on jonathan's voice:
Your mom spawns in and sucks all the corruption with her mouth, pussy or ass, depending on the corruption's type. Each type of corruption can drop a shard of that type, that your mom can use to empower her cleansing skills. Gather enough shards and she'll be able to transmute those shards in an ingame IU crafting table, to craft the new WombSpawns. WombSpawns are powerfull fetuses that make her sucking levels skyrocket. This one fore example: LittleDud, that has a chance to summon your sister for extra sucking power. I won't spoil the rest! Your mom will be able to equip one wombspawn per womb she has (1), but she can buy more wombtabs from the store.
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>>566218469
???????
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I am incredibly disappointed by this league reveal. Biggest yet? Feels like barely nothing
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>>566218516
your mom is the second edict, it's datamined from the new alpha test
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What did ds_lily think?
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>>566218638
is dslily a boy yes/no
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>>566218823
no
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>>566204658
Didn't they JUST do an endgame overhaul on poe1 and accomplished all the shit we were expecting for poe2?
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>>566218843
tranny detected
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Supporter pack shows knightly armor holding a sword.
But these might be the worst two supporter packs launched together I can think of.
The hideout isn't really worth it compared to recent ones.
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>>566218845
>accomplished all the shit we were expecting for poe2?
Fucking swords?
Templar?
Marauder?
Duelist?
All of the above have been expected for two leagues now
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0PhEFcIkg4
NEW LIGHT PATTERN
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>>566218978
Retard.
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>>566218921
Retard
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>>566218965
Correction. The Pregnancy Map Device is okay, but that is it.
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>>566219070
he's right though
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>>566204528
Near the beginning of the interview w ziggyd when mark was talking it almost seemed like mark was calling out jonathan or something the way jonathan looked so sheepish.
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>>566219089
you didn't dispute the claim
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This is definitely the bloat update. We got nothing we wanted and instead 5000000 weird ways of crafting shit that aren't just a simple bench
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>>566205079
Blame GGG for cultivating such a toxic fanbase over all these years. They made their Golem. Now they shall be destroyed by it.
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>>566219298
just say you play d4 and you finish the game in 1 day you goddamn subhuman faggot
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APOLOGIZE TO ZACCIE RIGHT FUCKING NOW RETARDS
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ITS OVER POESISSIES
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so its truly over?
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genuinely what is the point of retarded uniques like this? not even dad gamers would use this while leveling.
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>>566205107
0. They vibecode, confirmed.
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>builder
>>>>>spender
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is a casual spear bleed build possible or do i have to get super specific uniques and ascendancy?
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>>566219514
D4 is a better game. This isn't the "gotcha" that you think it is.
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>>566219668
GGG lost their touch with making flavorful uniques, too obvious a reference to Hemophilia and the Habsburgs.
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>>566219253
retard
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>>566219668
That's one of the most offensive things about poe that I don't like
I'll never have this shit when I level my first character. Nobody will ever drop that, it's lvl 1 at best you'll get it on a first drop on the first boss at lvl like 5-10.
This is for a second run.
But by the time I'm uber farmed, I also don't need that shit I'll rather use a lucky yellow one that I will also probably have
This game is so stupid sometimes
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>>566219553
did he fix life?
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>>566219945
No one keeps low level yellows retard. People will just open their unique tab and pull out random shit while leveling alt.
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>>566219873
>D4 is a better game. This isn't the "gotcha" that you think it is.
nice self report you dumb nigger
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>>566205661
Ice Monke or Ice Raven, or idk but i am defo doing some companion. And ofc gonna force mod lines on them before i capture them. Going to do my first ssf run this league.
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>>566219668
So you can upgrade it with the new system.
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>>566205661
queen of filth
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I already have money on steam to buy the game but I'm not buying until they give out a discount
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>>566218989
>being completely honest, when i was fully in charge of something it would end up smaller, like sentinel.
CHRIS WAS THE ANTIBLOAT GUY
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taming the tornado rape bird to make all the enemies feel the bullshit he put me through
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>a major D4 patch just adds one new boss
>POE2's minor patch added six bosses and that only represented like 10% of the patch's new context
>tubbers nitpick about swords to attack the whole patch
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aint got no time to poo2, playing a real game instead
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>>566220430
kek
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>>566220697
D4 added an entire new campaign and 2 brand new classes.
PoE2 added.... uhhh... a new passive tree... LOL
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What do I do for 3 weeks
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>>566220930
Have we seen the full tree? I want to count how many multi choice nodes there are
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>>566220930
did diablo 4 add diablo yet?
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What is mageblood and why are the poo1 boomers soifacing over it?
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>>566220930
>100$+tip
>free
uh oh
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Atlas remains a mostly meaningless random tile chase

Towers

Map size to character speed ratio hasn't changed, in fact map traversing seems even slower in the video

Enforced pseudo-HC ruleset remains as a core design for softcore, cutting down portals/respawns in endgame, completely resetting bosses on deaths etc.

Ascendancy trials remain the hot garbage time wasters disconnected from normal gameplay, forcing 90% of players to buy carries

Passive tree remains a shadow of it's PoE1 version, with silly downsides and limited options - both in pathing and in meaningful nodes. The new version of 'voices' just highlights how limited the PoE2 tree is in comparison

Game remains bloated with unskippable cutscenes, invulnerability phases and mob/boss spawning animations and similar time wasters you never want to see past the first time

There was no mention about tackling most skills being clunky and completely not viable in endgame, limiting builds to few cookie cutters

Skill gems level ups remain as drops, rather than... level ups

Most skills remain tied to a weapon type, most ascendancies remain tied to 1-2 weapon types

Gem supports remains a horrible misunderstanding of a mechanic in PoE2, with players forced to pick a downside their build can manage while scraping for any dps increase that will keep them on the curve, rather than being excited about new effects that will elevate their builds

Campaign remains too long, too much on the rails and too slow. Cockroach GPS doesn't solve the core issue that leveling a new character is a dreadful experience. How far have we come from the days of Diablo 2, where the start of a new character was the most exciting, not most dreading moment.

There's still no simple caster-centric ascendancy. I want to simply blast my way forward with self-cast fireballs or other amazing spells.
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>>566219227
i didnt watch do you have a link?
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>The 1.0 update will come with the last two acts of the campaign and every ascendancy (sub-class) for the existing character classes. Only a few of the other five previously announced classes, however, will make it in time, which also means all the new weapon types, like swords, might not make it in either.
OHNONONONO
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>>566220930
>patch 3.0.1
>read: not starting with 0 means this is a post-launch patch of a fully developed game
>one of the "brand new" classes is the Paladin
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why do they tie skills to uniques fucking retards wtf are you doing
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>>566220026
let him do it his way
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>>566220697
all the bosses added this patch are literally recycled content. Expedition boss is T17 citadel boss. Breach is keepers. Etc. You would know this if you weren't retarded. It's literally lowest common denominator recycled garbage
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>https://youtu.be/M0PhEFcIkg4?t=1420
this statistic is actually super interesting. also this is by far the best interview with jonathan that i have ever watched
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first league with challenges means first real league, sorry chuddos, if you played the game til then you've only beta tested it, the real playas will start playing now
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>>566207563
1.0 will be full campaign.
1.1 will be a single new class.
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>>566221030
play godshin
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>>566221480
>GGG says they are developing both games in parallel
>they are being developed in parallel
>for example, POE1 gets the waystone system of POE2
>wadahek why they recycle system???
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>spirit walker is a minion build
>huntress starts 300000000 miles away from minion nodes
lol.....lmao......ok poe2 dude....
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>>566221539
Did you think we were joking when we said we're going to skip bad leagues?
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Who's "we", you gay retard?
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>>566221807
companion nodes my dude
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>>566221539
kinda speaks why they don't care about in-league retention, there is basically no guarantee people even come back league-to-league
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>>566221751
when did they ever say they were developing them with the same content in mind? What the fuck is the point of having 2 games if all the mechanics are the same?
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>>566222013
>can't play your archetype until like level 40
wow epic.............
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so if i want to play a new class i have to wait for 1.0? how does that make sense
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>>566222076
and why they do necropolis once in a while
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>>566221539
That's me, I skipped like 3 leagues.
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>>566221807
it's a companion build friendo
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>>566222109
Because they intend to kill POE1, which was only brought with regular leagues because the content for POE2 is massively delayed.
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>>566222205
There are 3 weeks left. They may shadow drop the new class if they finish it during that time.
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>>566222131
yes that's how it goes with most builds if you're lucky
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>>566222205
yup
an entire year in an early access game with no new classes or skills
pretty fuckin cool right? any indie dev would be crucified on the spot and have massive negative review bombs but GGG is COOKING with 1.0 TRUST guys, TRUST THE HECKIN SCIENCE!!! COMPARISON IS THE THIEF OF JOY!!!
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>>566222391
Stop coping
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>>566222109
the first time they showed poe2 they said they were developing content for both at the same time and a lot of content would be playable in poe1 as early as metamorph or whatever league was right after exilecon.
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>>566205834
Smith bear again, fuck stat-juggling on a league starter.
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>>566218263
It is?
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>>566221539
It makes sense. No one other than turbo autists are gonna play the same game forever. Most normal players play like 1 in every 3 or 4 leagues and grind it super hard. It was the same for poe1.
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>they ignored the swordniggercope weekend warriors and gave endgame for the true chads
>redditors will still be locking themselves out of maps when they run out of lives

im fuckin ready

im ready to huff alva's unwashed pits
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Reminder that poopers2 is still the more popular game.
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poe players are kinda like toddlers
>no swords? game will fail!
yeah man, duelist will just never come
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>>566205834
Spark CoC Comet BM
Gotta build temple
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>>566222465
they released an act, 3 epilogue acts, two classes and several ascendancies
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Troonathan saved D4
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>>566206372
It sounds like the Kalruugan skills are supposed to fill the "new class" space, but I... Am skeptical. Because it appears to be solely an endgame mechanic.
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>>566222774
>It was the same for poe1.
even more interesting is that less people play league to league in poe1 than in poe2. it was this initial disappointment in poe2 performance that made him look into it.
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>>566220107
>>566219514
tranime meltie alert
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>>566207881
>forgot Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem
Chris Wolcen is displeased
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You vill replace all your defenses vith vard.
You vill play vard skills and spend all your vard.
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>>566222891
they said the entire game was 80% finished at the BEGINNING of early access
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new and flat
>>566223226
>>566223226
>>566223226
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It’s fucking hilarious that D4 somehow won
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>>566223201
uh huh.
and?
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>>566207861
>they added trails to campaign
>trails in maps isn't far off.
I hate this casualized timeline. I miss when games were made for gamers.
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>>566214690
These sorts of meta skills are always even worse than they seem at first, because not only do they arbitrarily cuck you with 70% attack speed, they ALSO slap on a 20-30% LESS damage multiplier that is ON TOP of the lost opportunity cost from having an actual 6 link skill with a support gem giving +30-40% more damage in its place.

So you're not just doing 30% less, you're doing 1*0.7*0.8*0.7=0.392, or literally 60% less fucking damage than if you just self cast the damn thing yourself, AND it costs ascendancy points which are upwards of 40% more damage themselves.
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>>566209997
This endgame overhaul is a joke thobeit.
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>>566210593
Bs. Poe2 needed endgame overhaul before 0.4
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holy shit bros
i just got off work and watched the 0.5 overview
we are eating so fucking good
i dont even know what i want to roll when the season starts



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