Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancients - Teasershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqb4pk3bkbshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKD92i_KYshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6q1UMNM9eYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h3pZCdwtlE[PoE 1]>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt (embed)[PoE 2]>Druidshttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212Previous HopeCHAD: >>566203297
Path of Exile?
alva's hairy unwashed pits
0.5 pre-flopped
my honest reaction to path of exile 2 the return of the ancient league
>PoE2 has been in development for 8 years>More than half the life of poe1 has been spent developing poe2The gap between poe1 release -> poe2 dev is less than the time since poe2 dev -> Today.
D4 somehow won
>>566223342Furina is poeg core casual
Swords will be released in 0.5.1
>>566223446It was always the superior game
from now on only chris should be allowed to interview jonathan, literally nobody else could make him talk about something interesting.
So much content. This league is going to be EPIC for the WIN.
>>566223226What's crazy is that I look like that.
Doomers lostered.
comparison is the thief of joy
ZIZ HATES IT
>>566223507it was a scripted interview for johnathan to try and bullshit people into believing he's not an incompetent flopwhy else would it come out at the EXACT moment the 0.5 reveal ended?
Anyone else worried about the balance changes? I'm afraid they'll make the few remaining decent spells worthless like they did to Flameblast and Incinerate when they "reworked" them into useless pieces of shit with 10 second cooldowns, 5% crit, 0 damage and 0 clear. They'll probably give Comet a 30 second cooldown and make it require 3 power charges or some shit.
>>566205834reluctant since ghazzy will be playing it but the new huntress ascendancy as a companion build
>>566223623and? literally all interviews are scripted
>>566223226genshin boys owe me sex
Reminder!
>>566223538>appeal to no-life streamers>lose all your casual players who wanted Acts and SwordsHopesissies losted
Shadowbros....... we............ we will go on coping
>>566223623Nda embargo what do u think? They pre recorded it for the poe2 marketing campaign they literally explained it at the very start of the video.
>>566223674>They'll probably give Comet a 30 second cooldown and make it require 3 power charges or some shit.give it a cooldown of like 5s specifically so people can't CoC it easyI want selfcasting to be FUN again but it's just TRASH ASS POOOP because johnathan thinks infusions are just the BEST SHIT EVER!!! WOW!!!and I DID make a good infusion build that uses all tri elemental shit and clears good and has good boss damage but it still feels like shit fuck ass because infusions are just clunky as fuck
Like why are they keeping the same, shitty Atlas system in PoE2 that everybody hates? That alone killed my hype even if they added a shitload of stuff to it.
>>566223623seriously something was fishy, that interview dropped while he was doing a live q&a with ziggyd. holograms? clones? wtf
>>566224163we are all chris wilson
>>566223226use a picture of this new poe character next time
Okay but are they slowing the game down? Lowering density? Buffing mob HP (NOT DAMAGE)? Lowering the amount of healing we get (NOT HP)?
For me, It's F- Wait this isnt /gig/
>>566224379>Lowering the amount of healing we get (NOT HP)?yes
>>566223446wait i just checked and theres actually no diablo anything general threadsthats really surprising to me
ive quickly checked out everyones reactions to 0.5poe2 won bigly
I thought everything looked cool
Do not post Nahida this thread.Given this isn’t /gig/, this should be trivial.
>druid released in december 2025>next class won't be until december 2026An entire YEAR-LONG WAIT in between classes.
>>566225050I hate everything
You're skipping the league because there's no classes or no endgameI'm skipping the league because crafting is still barebonesWe are not the same
>>566225050>He thinks he's getting a new class in decemberBro...? But that's the next ACT release. The new class is 2027. This year we get act 5 and atlas sidequests.
>>566225147your socketable crafting runes sister??
>>566223226>poe image
Well, there better be interesting minion stuff.
>we might not even get swords in 1.0Dude
>>566225467i've got a sword for you honey
>>566225147>crafting is still barebonesnow that is some next level bait
Snezhnaya release before swords in poo2
>>566225529This but with >>566225579
Shadow, Duelist, Templar, MaraduarThere is no way 1.0 is releasing all of these. At most we will get 2, but it is very likely we only see 1.
>>566225579Could you please tone down the lust provoking images in my poo2 gen
why didnt ggg make this a back attachment?
when will they post the challenge set?
>>566226146I'm feeling blueballed by this nothingburger "reveal" stream though
the supporter packs are dogshitthis means the league will be shit.
Snezhnaya will save poe2, trust me, i work in manjuu
>>566225754jonathan should lose some wait just like chris did desu
Is /poeg/ rolling for Nicole?
>>566227179No fuck that bland brick bitch
>>566227179no I only roll for the cute twinks
>>566225754shazamsip.jpg
>>566227179of course.
>>566227241>posts two anem* gigabricks
>>566227179I'm rolling Lucy.
Imagine temple doesn't get nerfed in 0.5
>still no swordshow can i self insert now?
>>566227816While I did like edgerunners, wuwa was the worst gacha I've ever played. Shit was actually terrible. Worse than genshin, hsr, zzz, tof, snowbreak, and endfield.
>Worse than tofno way
>>566228225tof was fun at launch running world bosses with the /vg/ guild. The multiplayer at least gave it something over genshin. wuwa was a buggy mess with terrible combat, terrible exploration, and terrible story. Straight downgrade from genshin in every way possible.
>so much hype for return of the tub, poeg has devolved into anime/gacha postingit's never been more over
>>566228483>devolvedevolved tbqhwy
>>566228431I played tof at launch with vg too, I knew the game was going to fail because that tower content was awful
Is GGG retarded?
>>566228483there's literally ZERO content to talk about in the "biggest update ever". Even if it's a good update for endgame, no new class, weapon, or TOTA is just boring. Spirit walker is a specter minion class so it will be no fun allowed dead on arrival. And monk is monk lol. The channeling skill does less damage than just casting normally and you have to stand still so enjoy getting degened 100 to 0.
>>566228075Doesn't feel buggy and the combat seems fine to me. I know it had a rough launch, but I wasn't there for it.
You retards did this. Begging for a game for no one. Well, this is what it looks like. Insane bloat and no fun to be found. Enjoy.
this is the best patch ever, game is rushing towards being just like poe1, an actual good game, if you're not excited is because you're a shitter and that's a-okay!
>>566228748not even a good endgame update.can't choose map layout, have to run 10 shit maps per one good map. this somehow adds the same problem towers had back.
>>566229001>You retards did thisare jonathan and mark in the thread with us right now
>>566226282that would make too much sense
>DUDE EPIC BOSS FIGHTShave they not realized boss fights are slot machines for any decently geared player and nobody is going to kill them
whos gonna gimme a key
>>566229206Juicers wonneredRollsloppers lostered bigliestly
So are we done having a continuous meltdown yet or are we moving into the 2nd 12-hour shift?
>>566229604'VKE
>>566224615It’s on vm
so uh I claimed some hideout decoration or something from twitch. Does that do anything in PoE2 or is it just PoE1?
i hope with the reworks we actually get new alt ascendancies this league. xesht acolyte, ritual oracle, vaal gemling, and kalgur smith. cant really think of any that would go with delirium. maybe chronomancer?
Remember when they made a big deal from weapon switching and the passive tree switching with it?Does anyone actually use this? Is it even still a feature in the game?
>>566229602I would, but you're probably brown. Sorry, I can't take that risk.
>>566229757delirium will be a deadeye alt because fubgun lightning arrow chads will be running the 100% delirium maps with headhunter and making 100x as much currency as anyone playing the gay little meme ascendencies they added this patch.
>>566229639Nope!*ahem*WHY THE FUCK CANT THESE RETARDED NIGGGERS ADD SWORDS ITS BEEN 6 FUCKING YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT AND ALMOST 2 YEARS OF EARLY ACCESS AND STILL NO FUCKING SWORDS I DONT WANT TO SMASH WITH MACES LIKE A FUCKING RETARD I DONT WANT TO TWIDDLE AROUND WITH QUARTERSTAVES LIKE A FUCKING FAGGOT I DONT WANT TO CHUCK SPEARS LIKE A FUCKING NIGGER I WANT TO FUCKING SLASH WITH A SWORD ITS THE MOST UNIVERSAL STANDARD WEAPON OF ALL TIME AND THESE NEW ZEALAND CHUCKLEFUCKS CANT DO ANYTHING RIGHT ITS IN THE FUCKING GAME LET ME SLASH WITH IT I DONT NEED DUELIST OR ANY GAY CHARGE SKILLS JUST LET IT DROP!!!
>500,000 ways to get new stuff that already existed that you get by jumping through hoops>lots of straight power creep>like 1 or 2 actual new thingsits crazy that the first thing they said was look the league mechanic is so fucking cool you basically click on the window, kill some monsters and then you get an augmentation orb
>>566229770It's used for curses and bigger shocks and to swap to pounce while leveling a real build.
>>566229998>most users are not willing to click once to loot an aug orb>lets have the league mechanic get the user to click 4 times for an aug orb
>>566229998reminder that they are also heavily nerfing the drop rate of augmentation and transmutation orbs so now you have to interact with the league mechanichonestly im just glad the new mechanic is simple and in map instead of temple i fucking hate temple
>he is a jingakh
why yes, i will be playing stormy daniels again. i dont care about karate faggot or zoo bitch.
>>566230438zoo bitch is just attack, the deer stampede is like 5000% eff mainhand with overlap
I swear to God if i see any more retarded ggg defenders saying "let them cook its only early access" one more time im smashing my head into a wall. where do these tards even come from and why are they so insistent on defending them. I like both games a lot but theres so many problems that need to be pointed out that get hand waved "let them cook its only early access".
im still shocked we got 5 new leagues in 1 patch
>>566229770It's nice for hybrid druid builds. Nobody plays those sure, but it's an option and I think that's fine.
>>566230614>5 new leeaguesretard its only 1 mid new leaguebreach is a carbon copy of 3.27 keepersdelirium now has a bar that shows how far you run in a mapritual is the same except you can dump favors to get an audience with the kingexpedition is also the exact same except logbooks turn into a group of island maps
>>566229757Why wouldn't it be ritualist that goes with ritual?
>>566230338The rune mechanic for the league looks ok. Its cool being able to level up a unique I noticed that is something you can do at some point>>566230614This, the endgame is 5 new things all at once. I'm not shocked, I'm alarmed. Thats a lot of things that will be bugged / broken
>>566230821i said 5 cope and sneed it was the rework the game needed they are all on poe2 abyss levels now cope and sneed x2
>>566230821There is going to be a ton of new strats with the reworked atlas tree.
>>566229770is this a joke? I've used it with my past like 5 builds extensively
>>566230839druid is heavily tied to the nameless king and ritual as a whole since his wife is literally the new ritual quest npcthough theres no rule saying there cant be 2 alt ascendancies of the same league mechanic
who won
>>566229639We all moved on already. Everyone else will too once the #ad !drops campaign ends too. Now we're waiting for PoE1.
so... where's the free weekend announcement for this league?
>The 1.0 update will come with the last two acts of the campaign and every ascendancy (sub-class) for the existing character classes. Only a few of the other five previously announced classes, however, will make it in time, which also means all the new weapon types, like swords, might not make it in either.It's over
>>566230931endgame "rework" that adds nothing but shitty linear quests and bloated worthless currenciesno new skills or classes to enjoy said rework too lolgo back to jerking it to ai gacha game pedo slop
sword status?
>>566229770Yes, it's still there, and it's really nice for the comboslop.>>566229998But the hoops give you far better odds, if not GUARANTEES, so the medium-effort dadgamers will be much less likely to hit a brick wall of grind. And most of the "power creep" seems to be more of that, extending the curve with strict add-on rather than New Good Old Bad.
>>566231389Dead and forgotten. Won't even make it into 1.0.
when are the rest of my poe 1 cosmetics coming to 2? they promised this forever ago
>>566231389raped
>>566231389got your sword right here, pookeks.
>>5662313892.0.
chris is such a sperg. its great
>>566229770Literal dead feature. The goal of ARPGs is to use less buttons and autismo weapon swap goes against that guiding principle. Never used it and never will.
>>5662302962 weeks before the league>heh look at this gameplay in the second zone of act 1, a transmute orb, nice league mechanic... lmao these goobers never learn.2 weeks into the league>OMG FUCKING CHRIST WHAT THE FUCK!!!!! STREAMERMAN IS GETTING 200 DIVINES A MAP!!!! THIS MECHANCIC IS FUYCKED REEEEEE
remember how they sneakily announced the djinn lady right before 0.4? I hope they do that again with this update. martial artist and spiritborn don't interest me at all.
whats up with all the gacha fags invading /poeg/its one thing to talk about what else you play between updates its another to keep spamming and larp it
Why are streamers so positive about this announcement when it only had the thing promised to us 6 months ago compared to d4 actually fixing their game?
>>566231732brown talking monkeys control /vg/ because you let them.
SEXOR
>>566231732You need brain damage to enjoy ARPGs so the gachatards feel at home here.
>>566231716im really surprised we didnt get arcane archer and hope they shadow drop it too but i doubt itthe only reason they announced disciple of varashta like that is because she tied in with the poe1 3.28 league and you can tell they rushed it with how incomplete it feels.unless it ties into the next league i doubt we'll get another last minute announcement
>>566229770its incredibly strong but the game is so easy that you can ignore it and do fine. Not worth trying to puzzle out. The 100 extra points notable on witchhunter isn't very good though
>>566231732>Announce a bunch of mechanic bloat>Gachafags swarm to play your gameCurious...
As someone that generally dislikes the current endgame/atlas progression in PoE2 (while having 10K+ hours in PoE1 and loving that endgame progression); these coming changes are amazing to me.I always felt like I never really had an "aim" when getting to maps - and all these big additions to the atlas, might be what solves that (for me). Especially the reworked atlas tree. That's just amazing on it's own. Brings back a sense of actually getting something in terms of progression, when completing stuff.I'm very excited to try out all the new stuff.
>>566231732PoE gets no updates so we have to play other games that actually get regular content.
>>566231732look at the opplus its a news day with the reveal so there's way more people here that usually wouldn't be
>>566231734Because PoE2 is not outright broken, just has a bunch of really awkward edges between incompleteness and the utter hell of balancing.
0.1 was awesome because all of my friends played so we were constantly talking about our builds and progress. but that didn't last long because 0.1 didn't have much content. with each lackluster league my friends consistently fell off on the game and now i'm the only one who even cares about 0.5. sucks that i'll just be autistically grinding alone because GGG had to make this game a live service carrot on a string.
>>566231734>Why are streamers so positivePaid off. It's obvious since they still pretend D4 is bad even though it's the better game now.
So the game is fucking dead until 1.0?
>>566232206No, they're going to do some "minor" remix-Leagues to pad out the 6-7 months.
for me it's Raven's Flock
>>566232282so it's fucking dead. got it.
>>566232206Yeah. Little balance changes btw from last league since they were too busy working on the endgame for 10 months straight
>>566232348>working on the endgame for 10 months straightThese devs are so retarded. People want classes, skills, weapons and campaign, not more endgame grindslop.
>>566232080But Ziz and co openly shat on patches before when they were genuinely bad.
i tried to make a tame beast huntress back in 0.2 and it was terrible. did they change anything since then?
I need a streamer to tell me if I like 0.5 or not
>>566231732i rather play a gacha than d4
Is Titan Quest 2 a better game?
>>566232461Lightning spear was one of the best things this game ever got. Also the game wasn’t bloated during 0.2 and still had a vision other than “let’s copy paste everything from poe1 and bloat the game to the max”
believe me or not, but its a bad idea to talk bad shit about game you are actively streaming and relying as your main source of income.not that a whole lot of you ever paid your own bills
are they gonna buff all the shit ascendencies to be strong enough to fund build creativity for alt experimentation or is it just gonna be some variant of arrow spam so I can try out new stuff again?
>>566232668Except they do it all the time?
poe2 and niglan flopped and slopped
>good arpgsGrim DawnD4Last EpochTitan Quest 2>bad arpgsPoE1PoE2WolcenLost Ark
>>566231375FIVE5FIVENEWLEAGUES
>>566232737tactical trvke
>>566232806>New
>>566232737fuck you I liked wolcen
are they really not going to do any balance changes or are you guys memeing?
>>566232726yeah they also go monthly to diablo 4 when daddy blizz pays them to do so.
>>566233015Only a few things are being adjusted from the video. They’re buffing archery builds to have better drops and higher dps, and they’ve removed melee’s ability to equip ES or play red maps.
>>566231857looks like a troon here
>>566233015Its ggg they will nerf the biggest tiddy gilfs in wraeclast dont worry about it >>566232921brand new
You don't really think they'll go from 0.5 to 1 do you? Especially in one year. Its the biggest lie they've told
>>566232737>good arpgspoe2D4Lost Ark>bad arpgsPoE1WolcenTitan Quest 2Grim FlopLast Sleepoch
does poe2 have a path of building?
>>566233169
I bounced when the q&a started, did they talk about changes to the temple?
>>566233350No lol, that shit is still gonna be busted and exploited, enjoy
>rework>rework>rework>all from poo1>"new" quests (go into 100 maps and kill retarded bosses)>no new class>no new act>not even fucking swords THE most iconic and basic weapon in video games>no actual rework on their shitty clunky gameplaylol lmao kek half a year for this btw
>>566233226Why would they say it and then don't do it?They never lied about this kind of thing.
>>566233391>bustedHell to setup.>and exploitedTrue.
>>566233338i forgot about her, i guess we will see her atziri form in december
>>566233391christ. which autist should I watch to learn how to do it?
>>566232004hi mr redditor
O POO2
>>566233429its okay obviously 1.0 launches Dec and adds everything
>>566232710johnathan confirmed chronomancer is getting a huge buff
I wonder if jonathan is ever just chilling in his living room and a kangaroo bounces past his window
>>566232737>good arpgPoE1PoE2Diablo 2 >the resti dont care about them
>>566233597Aren't kangaroos Australian? New Zealand just has sheep I think.
>>566233646>not a gacha imageopinion discarded
>>566232004good bait
>>566233646Based d2 unc
how is no one suing ggg for false advertising? these hacks lied about the early access, and still are, and are just scamming redditors into buying the game+packs while only doing re-works and adding content from poo1 INSTEAD of actually doing the purpose of EARLY ACCESS and adding to the base gameyou deserve what you get i guess
>>566233646play ghostlore
>Mark said they TRIPLED the damage of companions in 0.5I got fucking baited into trying to play Companion Tactician in 0.3 and it was terrible, even with a very high damage weapon with Lead by Example and a +4 minion scepter they did no fucking damage and I'm pretty sure most rare monster modifiers can't have their damage scaled by support gems.Do I try again and get fucking baited by the unique scepter that lets you have as many companions as you want plus its own special wolf? Or do I do something sensible like just use the fucking armor stacker/block bow and LARP as a fortify bow champion in poe1
>>566233501the minmaxed temple used tech that will not make it to 0.5, wait for the patchnotes and someone will make a revised temple that doesn't use on roman roads and russian spymasters.
Remove everything that isn't selfcast
https://youtu.be/2EHDmylDt94?t=1977>1.0 wont contain all weapons and classes>no duelist/swords>no shadow/traps/daggers/claws>no marauder/axes>no templar/flailsis everyone enjoying the vision™
>>566233169>brand new
>>566233501alkaizer is well known for his bow build and endgame currency farming methods
>>566233949So really its just 0.6 disguised as 1.0?
>voices mandatory on every build
>>566233949He only said it won't have all the classes.Nothing about no swords and all the other things you said.That's bed enough on it's own, you don't need to make it sound worse.
Poop2 sistas, I thought we was getting a completely new endgame??
It's hard to discuss anything because there's too much content. That's the simple fact of it. Paralysis from information overload. And we're waiting for streamers to tell us what to think.
I was in rehab last year and like 3 out of the 12 guys in there with me played poe obsessively and I think about that a lot
why the fuck did they add parrying to the game and try to hype it up
>Raven's Flock>is RFbretty good one
So now that 0.5 is a confirmed flop, whats next?
>>566233725i swap from time to time >>566233831already have >>566233994pristine mint.
>>566234156Because parry slop games were popular at the moment.
>>566223397>More than half the life of poe1 has been spent developing poe2Retard Tourist, PoE 1 development started in 2006
>t-there's too much content to discuss!!!>only changes being being the re-work already seen in poo1redditors are not having a good day
how long until someone figures out an exploit with a build guide file?
Odds spirit, evens martial artist
>>5662343525 minutes
>>566234349The usual suspects are out in force on YouTube too. Reminds me of Marathon's launch, very artificial hype. It'll die just the same.
>you must hate the patch otherwise you're a shill!
Theory savants give it to me straight. Are the new asendancies memes or do they have potential?
so when are they going to make the game fun, is that in 1.0? I guess the really lean on the new atlas, I was hoping they will get rid of it but in 0.5 they just expanded it so...also are they delaying the next poe1 league because poe2 was delayed?
>>566234339This is bullshit. In terms of development they mean making the engine and foundation stuff. They didn't actually truly start making the game we know as poe1 until like 2011. Those earlier years were literally like "Congratulations we got a cube to render in our engine" or "We finally have a light source"If those are your metrics, Ocarina of Time was in development from 1989 > 1996 since that's when the engine for the whole 3D era of Nintendo started and work on the 'Ultra 64' began.
>>566234602martial artist is a memespirit walker depends on how much they buff companions
so what the fuck has ggg been doing for the past 6 years that they cant even put swords/duelist in the gametheyve been shown off in promotional material and demos and swords even bug dropped in 0.1
I want more female characters...
>>566234602Martial Artist seems like a noob trap, Spirit Walker might be good if the unique pets don't get gaped with hidden -90% less damage modifiers or nerfs.
are the only atlas tree nodes with choices the keystone sized ones? It doesn't look there are very many.
>>566234758Yes its called pre-production and its apart of the process.
what boss are we taming?
>>566235081There's something wrong with their staff, it's literally the only explanation. My theory is a heap of them died from the forced NZ clot shot since that country made it near mandatory, GGG probably had people force jabbed to continue working. They legit probably only have like 3 animators working on skills or something and it's all a big bunch of fakery, 1.0 exilecon I'm gunna be very curious tosee how much of the devs have been replaced by chinese tencent operatives.
skip literally half of all those reworks and put swords in the game. how the fuck are swords not in the game. what the actual fuck are they thinking
>>566234758they started laying the groundwork for poe 4.0 in early 2018, and that was "we should update the graphics and do another big expansion." not "lets make a new massive game."
Morning poegStill dont like the reveal
>>566235317this gets funnier everytime you post it
i wonder if voices are dropping from deli in poe2 or if its moved to a new mechanic
>streamers dont like it>reddit doesnt like it>poeg doesnt like itjonathan had to go 1.0 because tencent is whipping their assesthey shouldnt have dragged the game out this muchgoing from 0.5 to 1.0 is a monumental jump and it will not feature any new classesthis is the downfall of poe
>>566234596Funny how that applies to gacha's too
>>5662353572017 actually, there's a dev interview from before 2018 and various early leaked images of marauder etc character models from that period.There's also no way that's true because of all Act1 as we seem to know it today existed in 2019, since the entire thing was basically there except the geonor bossfight if I recall, everything up to the manor bossroom was at Exilecon 1. They would not have been making all of that in just a year now knowing what we know how long it takes them to make this stuff if it was just a character model update.It was probably 'only a character model update' for like mere weeks.
>>566235279silverfist ofc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0PhEFcIkg4The return of the ancients indeed
>>566235484honestly i feel like i no longer can trust them to deliver anything particular in any time frame. i would no longer be surprised if at this point 1.0 releases as just the 2 new acts and that's it.
Will /poeg/ apologize if Duelist is randomly dropped a day before 0.5 is out like with disciple of varashta
>>566235105it might be a noob trap but as a monk you will have the option to just switch to some of the strongest builds in the whole game if it's a letdown>>566235279is that shark boss on one of the islands a beast?
It took all day and night, but me and my team have successfully convinced EVERYONE to hate this shitty tencent mtx update across social media.YOU FUCKING LOST POENIGGERS! AND WE WILL ENSURE YOU KEEP LOSING!THIS IS REVENGE FOR "D4 BAD" EAT SHIT. YOUR GAME WILL NEVER SUCCEED!
>>566235623I'm banking on 1.0 not even having Act6, which is quietly shelved or is some super fast shit minor act that is just like a bossrush reskin fest or something.1.0 I'm expecting just Act5 and either Templar or Duelist I really can't be sure at this point. I'd have said Duelist but I see no indication of any sword stuff and there was a bunch of holy stuff done in poe1 last cycle, and knowing how much they seem to like to recycle I would guess all that poe1 stuff is just gunna be copied or ported, or was itself just copies and ports of what they're working on with templar.
>>566235709HOLY BASED BLIZZKING
>>566235623they had 6 months to add a new type of weapon, a class or a new act right now. none of it was added and all the time was spent on importing poe1 mechanics instead.you think in 6 months they're adding 2 whole new acts? lmao
>>566235709Yep I'm thinking BASED AND REDPILLED
maybe I am retarded but I have some weird feeling about this. All this shit added for what? To reach the same goals as before but 5 time as longer????
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1t6oowr/endgame_revamp_is_better_than_swords/absolutely inSANE how many people are trying to defend this revealthe artbook has a bunch of new classesand they delivered on a bloated endgame just to pad out the enxt 8 months
>>566235709based, keep em on their toes
>>566235815>>566235757>>566235623Act 6, Templar and Shadow will be repurposed into a post-release "expansion"
>>566235650i actually think arcane archer is going to be the one this happens to if any
>>566235815poe1 should be fucking killed completely. there is no doubt about it
>>566235709We freakin did it bro, mission accomplishedbased based based
Man, I'm just too spoiled. From software added 2 new classes to Nightreign in like a couple months. Nightreign itself has like 10 unique characters and they're not any of them reskins, they even all run and dodge different, they even attack different with different gear.Seeing GGG take this long just to get druid out is really telling to me because like it's not even on D4 druid level.
>>566235709D4 wonned epic style
>haha we didnt realise putting a cool ass sword in the teaser knowing that people have been asking for swords since the game came out would result in people thinking we were adding swords
>>566235862these are paid shills. ggjeets literally pay streamers to shill their game, what makes you think they don't pay for social media campaigns?
>>566235709poetroonies absolutely MOGGED by D4BULVS, they seethin LMAO XD
Was there a Q&A? Did they address no new classes at all?
>>566236052It's exactly this moment that has shown me something is very wrong at GGG. Even aside from the fact that Chris and others left, there's just all the warning signs of bad development on display with this game.This is bordering on Duke Nukem Forever tier at this point.
>>566235862the faggot reddit mods just deleted any negative threads so of course its all dicksuckers
What do you retards think about this
>>566236098yes, no new classes. they take a lot of time. don't expect all of them in 1.0 later this year
No one watched chris wilson interview jonathan?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0PhEFcIkg4
>>566236167>voicesyea poe2 is dead
I came here to laugh at you.
everything is mid. too much fuckin bloat added. and I still forced to run this SHITTY FUCKING GARBAGE CAMPAIGN
>>566236202No, what did they say?
You PoEcocks were so cockey too, you played yoru hand too soon and now you lost it all.
>>566236242A clear disconnect between based chris and overworker jonathan
>>566236167Yeah, I'll give you a molten shower
>>566236229no one's forcing you to do anything
>>566235317the great replacement but its a new zealand video game company
>>566236052Don't forget their community managers posting a picture of Duelist's Champion ascendancy in response to the teaser saying "We need a champion!"they were clearly teasing people into thinking swords and duelist were coming. When people saw the "no champ" the first thought was we'd get 2 ascendancies to start like other classes did and it'd be Gladiator and Slayer. THE GIANT FUCKING BREACH SWORD TEASER MADE PEOPLE EXPECT SWORDS? UGH SUCH TOXIC ENTITLED GAMERS WANTING THE MOST ICONIC WEAPON TYPE AFTER TWO FUCKING YEARS OF EARLY ACCESS!
>>566236375Yep they new exactly what they were doing
>>566236375People need to realize that CMs barely communicate with developers are are terminally retarded
>>566236167might be good with oracle str stack and crown of eyes
>>566236275the funny thing about this post is that I legitimately can see a D4 player flexing and chest-beating over having superior microtransactions with total sincerity.
>>566236275wow how much did you pay for this set
>>566236504My momther paid for it, get fucked loser.
Why is Reddit posting about rather having an endgame revamp instead of a new class as if these are somehow mutually exclusive?
anyone else notice that jonathan's hair has gone completely grey
>>566236582bodied that freak
>>566236167>ngamahu flame clonejust release the axe at this point
I find the universe has a really funny way of doing things.I have this weird tingling feeling that right as PoE2 1.0 drops, some brand new unknown arpg is announced and shown and looks incredible, like it looks god tier a level beyond everyone and it just steals GGG's lunch. It just feels like something is brewing.
>>566236629must be the stress from being berated by tencent for not making enough moneyor you know, age
kawaii
why did he change his shoes?
>>566236629>anyone else notice that jonathan's hair has gone completely greypost before and noww pic
>>566236687Yeah, It's Diablo V being revealed at Blizzcon.
>>566236736take your meds schizo
>>566236687that probably only Chinese developers can pull off now. Why? Because Murica-slop only chasing trends
So let's summarize>no new class>no new acts>no new weapon types>some generic boring looking skill gems that LE WORK WITH EVERYTHING>same dogshit endgame but there's more of it nowI can't believe the nerve GGG had to show this dogshit after Diablo 4 drops an amazing expac with TWO new classes and an entire new story region.
>>566236736Shot on different days, compiled together using this technique called "Video Editing".That's what Grok told me anyway, idk its some boomershit apparently.
>we want the normie audience!>spend months catering to maybe 1% of the player base who will actually enjoy all the bloatinteresting, let's see how that works for them.to me this whole thing looks like a >here have your fucking end game and shut the fuck upmore than anything. I see no soul put into anything they "added".
>>566236807This. The Chinese are known for their ability to innovate and creatively drive things like this forward.
>>566236736>anon learns that videos can be shot in separate parts on separate days
There are still 0, Zero builds i want to try in PoE2.
>>566236908IT NOW REQUIRES 100 HOURS TO JUICE A LEAGUE MECHANIC TO MAKE IT WORTH RUNNING
People please stop your tears, they have reworked the entire endgame and added more content than anyone predicted. This is MUCH better news than another melee weapon type, the endgame was bad and caused the majority of players to stop playing once they beat the campaign. This has been a huge update, and I can't wait to actually explore the endgame.
>>566236960But anon we have frost/lighting screen explode available on every character, what do you mean.
>>566236807Chinks already made a PoE-like.It's called Torchlight Infinite.And it's fucking terrible.
>>566236960Play Parry Disengage
havent played in a bitis poe2 still rollslop or did they finally crack and cave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxgYGGFNs98why the fuck is youtube so full of bots nowjesus fucking christ
>>566236687오고있다
You should agree that it is better to have massive endgame update than new class without endgame DiscussionPill hard to swallow. Why we even need class if nothing to do in endgame? Poe 1 is not receiving new classes every league, and people still play it. So will be fine guys
>>566223226When will GGG collab with Hoyoverse?
>all this target farming, all at onceMan, the first couple rungs of endgame are going to FLY, aren't they?
>>566236960Bro your chaos leech whirling assault Chayula?
>>566236736He seems to be a shoe enthusiast, looking at what he's wearing. I don't know why you would need more than one pair of the same kind of shoe otherwise.
>>566234339I was counting from the first open beta poe release (august 2011).
>>566236960I've got stuff I want to try but it all involves endgame uniques and lineage gems. No fucking idea what to play up to that point.
>>566237079This piece of shit have no soul only a pure intent to extract money. So fuck that shit. We need a good game that will be played by more people, not only 150
>>566237179because they promised 12 classes
>>566236586idk but at the start of 0.2 jonathan gave a roadmap of what they would do leading up to 1.0 and they did everything he said they would do. there is no reason to release another class or act or whatever pre 1.0
>>566235661yup
How is adding some more currencies and even more passive trees adding "more content"? The core gameplay of endgame is the exact same
>>566236960I wanna play that Crow RFHowever>Level 90 Req>Uber Boss DropLike what am I supposed to play to get to that point? grim.
>>566237120The mirage trailer with 10 million views didn't tip you off?
>>566237179Its better the devs deliver what they promised instead of lying
>>566223226good OP pic, makes me want to play some poe
>>566237192they're going to go HARD
>>566237120jeet ceo
The endgame is still THE EXACT SAMEIts just padded out with absolute bullshit to seem like something changedProve me wrong
>>566237110Rollslop still, and they still haven't fixed the rollslop being literally bugged where your character poops themselves when the dodge roll ends>>566237179Endgame means nothing when the function of playing it is fucking boring and cookie cutter. I would infinitely much rather replay Act 1 > 4 with every weapon type/character in hte game trying out new builds and theory crafting instead of just everything resolving to BLAST LIGHTNING/COLD no matter the character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGcoV0y44QYyep it's kino
>>566237242>there is no reason to release another class or act or whatever pre 1.0
>>566237282What do you mean by exact same? As in the loop of get to maps, map to gain power, then do end-game bosses kind of same? Yeah, no shit.
imagine if they fire kelly because she baited people about duelist/gladiator lol
>>566237304>Rollslop still, and they still haven't fixed the rollslop being literally bugged where your character poops themselves when the dodge roll endsbut enough about diablo 4
>>566236202I like how they admitted how much reddit influences what they release from league to league
>>566237346why is charlie kirk black
>>566237120It's the entire internet, even this thread.
im having a lot of fun with the game even though i dont really know whats going on or how im supposed to approach building my guy if this is braindead cookie cutter stuff compared to poe1 i cant imagine what learning that must have been like, dang
you know the league is gonna be total dogshit because they busted out the best challenge set yet to force people to play
>>566237304>I would infinitely much rather replay Act 1 > 4 with every weapon type/character in hte game trying out new builds and theory crafting instead of just everything resolving to BLAST LIGHTNING/COLD no matter the character...The fuck is the point of trying out new builds if you're so mazed by efficiency you lock yourself in the screenwipeslop meta?
>>566237384>how much reddit influences what they release from league to leaguebut reddit is furious about 0.5
you know now at least I know I can push the leaderboard in peace in d4I won't be bothering at all with poe2 until they add something interesting. who the actual fuck cares about all that shit they've shown.>play spark for the gorillion time!ggg is fucking retarded
If this league is reddit then what is the 4chan league?
>>566236582BASED
0.5 is a gigantic padding league
>>566237503You are not required to play the most popular obvious steamroller. You are allowed to trade a bit of efficiency for a more engaging gameplay loop.
>claude please go to boards.4chan.org/vg/poeg/ and spam it full of your most dogshit takes
Hmm it's very cool you added entire new systems, bosses, skills, mechanics and what not... but the maps in my hardcore fantasy dungeon crawler sometimes slightly inconvenience me taking +1 second to clear and they aren't all an empty linear path so the game is dogshit.
Ignore all the retarded blizzshills ITT, we are all hyped and excited even /ourguy/
>>566237621t. apologist
>>566237598>engaging gameplay loopno such thing in poe2 stop lying to yourself
>>566237598LolLmao
>>566236167>more skills linked behind unique items and ascendencies with only one possible way to build themkino!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Diablo 4 won so fucking hard
>>566237371if d4 is rollslop, then poe2 is a flat out multi-million dollar satirical joke meant to parody the concept of rollslop in videogames
>>566237640he is gonna quit before endgamejust like on release
>>566237640why is that professional zionist shill talking about video games
>>566237640>plays for a day then goes back to sucking off kikes
>>566237640fuck off with that moron sellout
>>566237640you do understand that ASSMADGOLD is not even going to finish act 2 on stream. he will 100% play it off stream for sure though.
This works really well.
>>566237346bwo they are a business not your friend. what do they gain from releasing a class a few months before 1.0? ass pats from reddit because "they really are the goated devs! jonathan is such a based chungus!" saving as much as they can for 1.0 is more bullet points on their press release, which is more money in their pocket.
>>566237469Bro normal people play games to have fun not for silly cosmetic rewards
>>566233547surely THE NEXT PATCH is gonna be the one
>no Arcane Archerit's nyover...
>>566237640how will he find time to play a game when he has to suck jew cock 18 hours a day live on twitch?
>ziggy d interview>first question why no swords>"no time, dont expect any new class until 1.0 or even later"hahahahahahha AHAHAHHAHA fuc you jonathan
anyone else think Johnathan is kinda cute like in a teddy bear way...
>>566238214no, fag
holy shit brosi just got off work and watched the 0.5 overviewwe are eating so fucking goodi dont even know what i want to roll when the season starts all the new shit looks so goodmonk jojo build maybe
>0.4 "endgame rework is pretty much done just couldn't finish in time"so what the fuck have they been doing for 6 months? How could they not add ONE new class. They're so full of shit
>>566238214Jon is probably the most sexually attractive man at GGG.
>>566238515are you by chance implying jonatroon is a lying nigger that lies as easy as he breaths?there's no fucking way dude
wait i thought everyone in here would be stoked for this patchwhy is everyone being a contrarian? how can you be mad after watching that he just kept saying "also" and it kept getting better
>>566238515Druid was "pretty much done" since release
I WILL enjoy the new endgameI WILL complete all challenges in ssfI WILL test the new balance in the following mini-eventsI WILL leave feedback for jhonathanI WILL complain that we have the same 5 unfun builds
Poo2 status?
>>566238741poo2 is a scam and you all know it
>>566238956we are so back
>>566238713because no one cares about bloat. we already have that amount of dogshit in poe1 and that game is dying and is only kept relevant by poe2.everyone wanted new weapons to play with because poe2 became stale. what the fuck is so interesting about what they've done anyway?>oh look now instead of just planting bombs while doing expedition you can to spend even more time by clicking some random dogshit choices that don't amount to anything meaningful anyway>rituals are now even more useless since they're just now basically regal shards>now you get breach walls in poe2 because everyone loved them in poe1are you serious? what the fuck am I supposed to be excited for faggot?
>>566239026>are you serious? what the fuck am I supposed to be excited for faggotthe free game
Me? I'd rather have them waste time revamping the endgame over and over instead of finishing the classes and campaign first so that they could then only focus on endgame properly.
Poe2 is still 3 or more years away from having a good item crafting system.
>>566239093that's in another 6 months
>>566239093>free
i cant with you faggots sometimes. the most miserable lot in all of the internet but the rest of the internet is so fucking gay i have to interact with you sour sallys.
wait wait waitare they doing a free weekend?I would really like to see this league's numbers without artificial inflation
>>566237556Did you mean to say pudding?
>>566239196crafting in poe2 is already great.
>>566235709BASED
>>566239510i know it's you jon
>watching Quin's VOD>chat's immediate reaction to GGG adding environmental road signs and directional fissures is yellow paintHoly fuck, this is the subhuman IQ algo-driven brainrot the average doomer cunt is. Kys.
D4 legitimately won, and I'm not joking or shitposting. I'm actually just seething that hard.
>>566239026>"you can replace mobs with strong boxes!"I lold. Who the fuck wants this shit
>>566238214Yes straightbro
other than the fact that the D4 leveling system is just daily quests on repeat, D4 won bigly, poetards in shambles
>>566237741How? Explain to me how. Please. I would love to know, in detail what you see as "winning" when you look at the videogame Diablo 4.
>>566239793d4 is less shit than poo2, that's how they won
>>566228587Does pope shit in the woods?
>>566239606the yellow paint meme really put the "poe1 should have a campaign skip" players into perspective considering virtually every zone in poe1 has yellow paint.
>>566237469new fag here, considering this game, what's that armor set I like the way it look
btw yellow paint means campaign skips are never ever under any circumstance btw
>>566239881except you need to know what to look for in every zone in poe1.in poo2 it's just always a yellow plant that has zero nuance to it.
>>566239793D4 has swords
nyo....its nyover....
>>566239985yes the cryptic clues like follow the road, or the pile of rocks shaped like > points in the direction you need to go, or there is a dead body at the entrance of every door you need to enter. real 200iq shit.
>>566240278people like this must think SSF players are gods
>>566240607That's the thing, we are.
ssf = vegans
tradies = lazy pieces of shit eating what others huntSSF = hunting your own food
hunting = picking up things on the floor and eating them
>ssf mazies
Aw, little tradies needs other boys to craft items kill bosses for him? Do you want them to fuck your wife too?
- WARNING -SSF melty in progress- WARNING -
>>566240949Every hobby requires time allocated away from responsibilities and work. What's the difference between playing SSF and golfing?
>>566241069only the epstein class play golf
this game is turning into poe1 with all of the obscure currencies you now have to keep track of.i got a little sad when they said there are 100 runes now.
>>566241228>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU SHOULD HAVE NO AGENCY JUST SPAM CHAOS ORBS LIKE A GOOD LITTLE BOY
>just buy your character progression bro lmaomentally ill tradies actually think like thissad
>>566241462>SSFoid confounded when he sees people who DON'T enjoy smashing their balls with a hammer
>RF that doesn't scale with defensesdon't fall for the bait
>>566241368you'll be doing this anyway. either alterations or chaos orbs.
>>566241552>level 78 minimum>minionslopit was bait to start with
>>566236960I kind of want to play a Tornado build, but I'm 80% sure it's going to suck ass, so it'll probably just be ED/Contagion Lich until I can't take it anymore and quit
>>566235709incredible post that will live in poe schizo folklore for yearscongratulations on the psychic damage you've dealt to your enemies and the sonic png is just *chef's kiss* mwahperfection
is melee good yet?
You literally can't beat this game without trading
If you've ever sold an item to an NPC or accepted a quest item, it's not SSF anymore.
just saw new trailer are we back or it's another jonathenggg lie
>>566242504sorry I have to break this news to you anon, but ingame NPCs aren't actually people
>>566237258levels of skills are tied to what item level they are, which is why thinking that the crow staff has a hard req of 90 makes you look like a fool!
>>566242582did the npc create the quest reward or did you find it
>>566242651doesn't matter, it's all part of solo ingame systems, not like having an auraslut follow you around to help
is this good?
I'm always SSF btw but I do wish i could just buy the ascendancies with a built in game mechanic somehow instead of doing them
>>566241228as long as they prune the shitty runes im fine with runes, its not something you interract with any thinking
>>566242214No and it never will be as it is a fundamental flaw with the game engine baked in since it was built to copy diablo 2 so everything is literally dicerolls with no actual hitboxes
did they nerf the djinn sorc ascendancy? I had a lot of fun with it last league.
Troonathan lied. Poe died.
>>566242806isn't this insane considering not only you get the talent companions, but also you have a separate companion skill? an entire zoo doing 60% of your weapon damage seems absurd.
>>566242806kek it's dogshit
hey rookROOOOOOOK
hollow palm martial artist mite b cool
>all these end game reworks>do campaign and quit
>>566242806Wasn't there a broken minion meta in POE1 where all you did was add flat damage to minions everywhere?
I will tame the boss with the largest possible hitbox, surely hilarious shenanigans will ensue
>>566223397If you put it that way it becomes really bleak.PoE 2 is the fruit of 8 years of work... and that's it?Genuinely, what the FUCK do they spend their time on? No way all this took EIGHT fucking years? And its still not done???
>>566242513I'm done being hyped for this game. PoE2 is not what was promised. The entire reason for the games existance was to reset the deck, make poe2 foundationally more like diablo 1/2 pacing and feel and less about exploding everything.GGG fucked up their game design in the sequel and ported over poe1 monster mentality and the game hasn't evolved combat meaningfully so its just more pachinko sloppa. I hope they're happy with their game plummeting to sub 5k players again despite being actively developed with 'endless replayability and builds'
>>566244159GGG died as a competent dev team in 2021
>>566242806wolf companions + upgraded hyena tali + rage could make something interesting. werewolf also has some good pet buffs but it depends how much phys that unique can get to with the new upgrade mechanic
>>566244159PoE2 might give FF15 (Versus) a run for it's money when it's all said and done. The actual base game won't be finished until all the weapon types and characters are in, which is probably 2030 at this rate, which would make it have been in dev longer than even that.
so we can finally once and for all agree that Jonatroon is a complete retard and has no idea what he's doing, while Mark is based and single handedly saved PoE1
>>566223921Alright, I thought long and hard about this, I think I found an extremely overcomplicated but functional rework for selfcast, let me know what you guys think, it's a long read but it's worth it, trust me.>Remove Infusion>Gigabuff Selfcasted spells via more sources of cast speed, support gems, mods and some specific interactions>Selfcasted spells actually just do damage when you want them toSorry for the huge wall of text maybe GGG can take some inspiration from this.
evens spend $180 on the 2 packsodds take my wife and stepson to a steakhouse
the prophecy will come true
Blizzard devs are running victory laps around the office after the 0.5 stream...
>>566244159buy my supporter packs.
>>566244659>Gigabuff Selfcasted spells via more sources of cast speed, support gems, mods and some specific interactionsWe literally had that in 0.1 until they nerfed it. Then ban-aided with shitty Infusion.
TWO PEEPEESONE POOPOO
TWO SHITSONE ASSETERNAL EARLY ACCESS
>>566240607>>566240949it would be pretty fun if it had mode like last sleepochalso wtf is with these fucking captchas and asking for email verification every few days, the fuck
>>566245038I NEED TO PEE PEEBUT THE POO POO ISNT DONE YET
just going through some streamernigger streams to see their reaction and what they're saying and everyone's like>y-yeah it l-looks good, a lot of end game content h-haha, c-can't wait to play it >*immediately starts playing d4*jesus christ
D4 won officially
What happened to life nodes in poe2?
Now you have to run around the atlas to look not only for citadels but also for the designated breach/whatever zone. Fuck you johnatan.
I have 800 hours in poe2 but this reveal feel ovewhelming to me. League mechanic seems cool but after that everything is just pure bloat.
>Added all this fluff>Currency there, mechanic here>Didn't even dare touch any of the actual issues>Endgame isn't even reworked, just added a bunch of shit on top of itWhat is their plan?
>>566246056to move goals forward so you will spend more time chasing the same goals
>>566246056>What is their plan?Crashing this game.
>>5662460560.5 the bloat leagueits for the 1% and streamers to hold them over until 1.0 releasewhich will be an abomination
>>566233591sauce?
is this a joke???
>>566237861So pissed I didn't buy that map device. I just want a compact option.
>>566246056they are/were never going to "rework" the endgame into the poe 1 endgame.
poo 2 good>inb4 NOOOOOOO NOOO NO NOOOOOOOO THATS NOT WHAT MY TRANNY DISCORD SAID FUCK YOU FUCK YOU PRAISE D4 YOU FUCKING CHUDLET OR IM GETTING THE JANNIES AAAAAIIIIEEEEEEE HELP ME DOOM XISSIES STOP DIALATING AND STOP THIS MANpoo 2 good
>>566246661All this cope just for poo2 to still be poo.
Genshin has swordsDiablo 4 has swords
>>566246862poe1 ruthless has swords
>>566246862>>566246892Even Real Life had swords... 5000 years ago and Poo2 can't do it in the year of our lord 2026...
has anyone killed the new pineapple bosses in hardcore ruthless yet
Where did this meme about the PoE2 Atlas being placeholder come from?
>>566247182Literally GGG themselves lmao.
Why the fuck cant GGG make different models for weapons.Why the fuck i have to doublecheck in ritual whether talisman is Fury or Maji that i need
>>566246056>>566246319I was specifcially excited to play PoE 2 because it would be a fresh slate without all the bloat mechanics Checked live stream yesterday>yeah we added all the bloat before releasing itthanks I guess
>>566247253Source?
>>566246862Croc Legend of Gobbos 2 doesnt have swords and thats best game in the worldCheck mate
Soo what about the sprint mechanic? That was also a placeholder while they solve the traversing the huge ass maps problem. Or they never said that too?
POE2 bros we won so much...Im actually a little tired of winning...I feel a little bad for the doomsissies
>>566247287New models for bases come with acts, since the designs are themed with the visual themes of acts.
suprisingly there is no much QoL mentioned on the video. I huess some of it will be in the patch notes.
>>566247462Makes sense Gives me hopeThanks anon
>>566247396Where did they say sprint is placeholder and not an intended solution?
Started watching the twitch video and 20 minutes in and i'm already bored. I guess they were excited about everything they did "the biggest patch ever" and wanted to really talk about everything they made HOWEVER the cadence and pacing is really dragging
>>566240278POE2 is my first arpg and I've only played self found. I have no interest in interacting with this playerbase and the more I see about it, the more convinced I am of my decision.
>>566247571Oh ok, and adding waypoints? Was that also intended and not a temporary solution to people's complains? Maybe i remember wrong haha
>>566247182to paraphrase>we were going to have the full campaign in 0.1 and then save the endgame for 1.0>once we saw how poorly the d4 expansion was received we realized players would get more out of the endgame than the full campaign during the early access, so we flipped the release schedule around. dooomers and poe1 players turned that into a cope about the endgame just being a placeholder.
>>566247302SameThey just made poe 1.5 with shinier graphicsIf they ever wanted new players to buy in the early access they just priced them out completely
>>566247741Waypoints are a fundamental pillar of the genre. You mean checkpoints? Intended.
TWO TUBSONE STINK
>new ascendancy gets to have minion bosses and gets a free node that's fully an upside>infernalist kills herself to get a tiny bit of damage and the most pathetic minion in the gameThat'll change right?Right?
>>566248067Heh
>>566248067minion bosses going to deal the same amount of damage as beetles in act 2
>"biggest update ever">no new class>no new weapon type>no new gemsholy fuck what were they doing for the last 6 months
>tame one shot gorilla>bosses dodge out of his slam everytime This is going to be reality, isn't it?
>>566232710I will play poison arrow pathfinder once more. No reason to play other than that as long as maps require the use of sprint.
>>566247741they wanted people to stress test the map layouts, which led to "kill all the rares", which led to "i can't fucking complete this map because a rare is on a little island outside of the map", which they fixed and led to "we realize backtracking sucks, here are some checkpoints."after layout generation was stress tested they removed the rare hunt and added the classic boss kill for completion, checkpoints stayed because they are a nice addition to the game. that's basically the template for everything ggg has ever done by the way.
>>566248349More likely is that it will just do almost no damage
I am willing to bet money that 0.5 will have the worst retention to date.
>leave my multimillion dollar company alone
prediction:minion bosses are ridiculously OP and are gonna get nerfed into the groundmelee is still lmao evennew uniques are gonna be expensive as fuck and streamers are gonna propagate how cool they arenew players are gonna pivot away from the game as 0.5 introduce massive bloat
>>566248858he is right tho. wont say who.
>>566232004This is exactly how I feel regardless if it's bait, fucken hyped haha
I had played the first 2 acts of poe2 but i'll admit i was completely lost with this game, i really had no idea what the fuck i was doing as far as builds go, the built in guides is a massive win, i'll be redownloading the game. These devs are a class act, this is what talent and passion looks like!. And i'm still gonna quit at maps, getting overwhelmed, no idea where to go, no idea how to improve my build-
>>566249073Thats the correct way to play the game without burning yourself out.Everytime you come back, push yourself a little more and go a bit deeper.
Is this the poesissy support group?
>>566249429Yes, no BlizzGAWDS allowed.
>NOOOO SM64 DOESNT HAVE SWORDS AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE TROONCORD WE HATE ONE OF THE GREATEST GAMES EVER NOW>FUCK MIYAMOTO FOR NEVER ADDING SWORDS
>>566249656Whoops, meant for >>566249496, was too shook by D4 winning to post properly
>>566247643Ya, it was pretty brutal. Even when the league is shit, they usually do a pretty good job at marketing it. Reading the gennie was more interesting than listening to Jonathan drone on about four different reworks.
>>566249753not many people know that but super mario 64 actually had swords. the more you know.
>>566249868Uuuh, Poo2sissies?
>no new weapons>no new class>no new act>boring new ascendancies>Late game rework is just BLOAT BLOAT BLOATdamn poo2tards are eating shit good
>>566248349current tame beasts are useless for clearing because they're too slow, but good vs bosses because auras. so my guess is that tame bosses will be the opposite.
>>566248329>no new same thing x3struggling to find things to criticize?also there are new skill gems, the kalguraan ones that spend Ward, soooo...
>>566240316better than a yellow arrow that straight up points you there.
>>566249429Yet i always end at the same point where i stop because it gets way too complicated for me
>>566247374Either the EA reveal stream or one of them before, they straight up said they put all work into the campaign and the endgame was thrown together in a few months leading up to EA release, maybe one of the anons has a link.
>>566250041i like synergy and combos not new flashy zoom zoom aoe slop.
>>566250232>I don't play arpgsyeah we know
>>566250041>poo2 players perceive classes, weapons and gems as one thing that belongs together as one unit How far this fucking game has fallen.
>>566248349bosses have flashy skills that wouldn't work against anything except the players itself
>>566250258i played druid in poe2. best class. While you were playing fotm trannyeye and trannymage
>>566237640Is he still being a grifting right ring shill? I blocked his channel when he stopped talking about video games and switched to politics. His political opinions are terrible.
>After 8 years of development the true melee classes don't existDidn't they start development on poe2 because they realised they couldn't make non-proj non-slam melee work in poe1?
I don't know, its hard to call a rework on endgame when its just a update actually, its the same shit that we disliked, we need to interact with towers, need to interact with random maps with horrible layouts and now we have to double the amount of maps to face the new "pinnacle bosses" and with 30+ points per tree instead of making a giant tree where we can focus on whatever we want. They haven't fixed the merchants on expedition, azhemeri is still a useless mechanic unless you drop the unique charm. New league mechanic barely looks like a new mechanic, its just a more obtuse expedition, weapons are so hard to craft in PoE2 and they make a breach tree focused on rings/amulets AND belts (that are just STR + resistance + Life gear).Really baffles me that it took them 10 months to release this update, I was expecting an actual rework, everything repurposed.YET, the new bosses are badasses and cool.
>>566238214Well he does have a ring on his finger so someone agrees with you.
>>566250514In the meantime they made non-proj non-slam work in PoE1, but have still failed to make it work in PoE2
>poop of excrement II
>>566250097considered it's 2026 and poe1 players are just learning about these 1337 speedrunner hax maybe they should have painted them yellow.
>>566250514>Trust us guys, we fucking finally fixed Melee in PoE 2>Finally releases>It's just slams except with less AoE and +2 animation time slammed onto them and clunky Boneshatter that needs a support gem to work>Oh and that one skill that forces you to play Osu (it's so busted you need to use it)>Oh and hammer of the gods which is so good you're retarded for not using it tooAmazing.
>reveal mentions 3 Abyss bosses AND the vessel of Kulemak? wait, I thought there were just two, Tasgul and Vandroth?
>>566250753I once told a friend about the 3 small stones. He didnt believe me and acted like I am a schizo for making this shit up. He genuinely got angry because of it.
>>566250753i knew about these for ages, they are not hard to learn if you care for it.yellow arrows are cringe, and poo2 will never be good because the base is rotten and piling bandaids on top of each other won't make it any better
>>566250514>makes a new game to fix melee and projectile gap>next update on older games instantly fixed this problemGGG is made by retards nowadays, its baffling the mistakes they are doing on PoE 2, they are repeating the same mistakes from PoE1 and you would expect that their expertise would show up and make them reajust for stupid mistakes like making Ev/ES + projectiles builds to be immortal for almost 2 years.
Bloat of Exile 2.
>https://x.com/NeverSinkDev/status/2052572078163845317Jonathan sent an angry message it seems.
>YOU WILL LIKE MY GAME
ghost shroud status? this is a make or break for es builds.
>>566229770Never used it. I want to play ARPG, not some lame innovation of retarded kiwi.
>>566229770>remember when they implemented a shit that is busted and every single builds uses>dOeS AnYoNe AcTuAlLy UsE ThIs?Holy shit I am dooming 100% but at least try it bro, any shock build is using this shit, its insane for bossing/endgame content, you just outted yourself as a tradie or fubgunner.
0.5 would be absolutely fine if they just bloody well released it now. That extra month of waiting between the announcement and the release makes it feel like they've screwed you over far more than they actually did.
>>566250898>Melee had always the issue where it lacks clear speed compared to ranged builds in the meta even if it's tankier/easier to get going>Rape armour>Remove fortify and some other melee specific defenses>Add flat animation time to melee skills>Reduce melee skills AoE>Don't touch ranged builds clear speed >Allow ranged builds to FUCKING ATTACK WHILE MOVING>Give them access to 100% MoM and ES AND block if they really want toWhat the FUCK were they thinking with this one?
>>566250426the kalguuran skills ARE comboable: one of them turns fire damage into cold damage. you don't really play the game and have no real complaints.
>>566251215>comboablenobody likes combos
Would you recommend a new player try PoE2 given the .5 news?
>>566223226I just bought SSD to have an empty space for games. Should I install PoE2? I played it on release for a few months and then uninstalled. Is it good now?
>>566251282Unironically play D4 or PoE 1, you'll get a way better experience out of either of them.
>>566251282lol
>>566229770if a build doesn't use it extensively including while levelling, you know the build is shit.
>>566251272except for you when you just said you did. except you don't play the game.
>>566251282It’s a question of price. If you’ve already bought it or got it for free, then by all means. But there’s no real reason to buy it, just wait for the 1.0 release. And don’t listen to anyone who tells you to play Poe 1 or Diablo 4. Just because Poe 2 takes far longer to develop doesn’t make those games any better.
>>566251282Well, it's already as bloated as PoE so it's hard to even recommend it to a new player. If you're interested in the game, go for it.
>>566250950Streamers had the fakest happy reactions ever.
>>566251525D4 WON
>"We introduced this cool new feature where you can assign abilities to different weapon+talent sets!">"Cool what can I do with it?">"Uhhh.. I guess you use your utility skills and curses with it and that's kinda it."lol?
>>566251542>Well, it's already as bloated as PoEdidnt even make it 2 years into EA for this to happen lmao
I'd give everything for a Last Epoch but with PoE2 visuals and PoE2 difficulty curve.Gems are outdated system and it adds nothing interesting to the game. GGG is trying to sit on two chairs at the same time - wombo combo of fantasies (gems) and fixed class fantasy (adcendancies) and fail to deliver both of them. Gems and sockets need to go. Classic Diablo class system is the best.
Did they add another act to the campaign for 0.5?
>>566251282>wait for 1.0 and finish the campaign>try the endgame>if you like it play poe1 instead
>>566251659
>>566251659No, its the same 4 acts, basically GGG is behind schedule by 2 classes and 1 act but they will release 1.0 this year.
>>566251659nope
>>566251641>Gems and sockets need to go. Classic Diablo class system is the bestit isn't, actually - and the past ~10 years of PoE raping Diablo's rotting corpse has proven that to a point of objective, inarguable fact.
>>566251589I made a warrior build that had all the damage nodes on one tree and all the attack speed nodes on anotherThen I would forge hammer with a huge 2hander, blow it up and switch to a fast onehander to trigger the fissureIt was slow as fuck and clunky as shit, but it did work well into red mapsI wish they'd just add boneshatter or any other strike skill that isn't cancer to use
>>566223226>0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5You do realize that we aren't going to jump straight into 1.0, right? They still have 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9 leagues to fix the game and add the swords. Just wait for it, it is coming one day.
>>566251834A... anon....
>>566251463not even you like cobos, and you defend that turd the hardestcombos sound fun on paper but play like absolute unadulterated liquid dogshit
Every time someone mentions acts and bloat they’re obviously Diablo shills. These people can’t imagine games being even the slightest bit complex.>>566251834They literally said that 1.0 would be the next patch after 0.5
>>566251525PoE is still the better game.
>>566251834Anon, 1.0 is in 7 months. GGG is panicking because PoE2 interest is not growing or maintaining good numbers (0.4 had 38% of the players of 0.1 returning), they are just gonna market the shit out of the 1.0 without Act 6 and missing 3 classes just to attempt to get some money to fund the rest of the game and appease their masters.
>>566251930no, they said 0.5 is the last content update/league before 0.1, not that 0.6 won't exist.
>>566251940YesPoe 2 is still the better game
>>566251750>yoooo we NEED more campaign acts! BRUH ON GAWD WHERE THEM ACTS!?>would you please add a campaign skip? we've been asking for 10 years... just let us skip the campaign, it fucking sucks! >lol they add yellow paint so you don't even get lost in campaign zones. don't they realize that getting lost is half the fun? >seriously tho, the campaign is too long, let us skip it.
>>566250426Nigga, Druid was the FoTM. 24% of ninja played a Druid and it won't even be half of that next league.
>>566251525>>566251341>>>>>play D4just fucking lmaothe absolute state of /poeg/, good lord what a wasteland of a thread these days
>>566252152D4 is unironically better than PoE 2 now anon...It's the price we paid for our hubris.
>>566252001>GGG is panickingSo that’s why they announced a patch with basically zero new content? It looks like they just regret releasing the game in early access and have given up on releasing proper updates, they just want to finish it off completely. I really hope that’s how it will go and they won’t bother with yet another PoE 1 league, wasting time on that garbage.
>>566252246are you retarded? all the endgame shit is more content than the game had up until this point.and it's still shit.
Another league of Summoner I suppose.
>>566252001Yep, Jonathan talked about this in the Chris interview although not in very good detail. The numbers were bad enough that he went to cope by looking at PoE's numbers and realized the playerbase is so massive that only 40% of people play consecutive leagues, but numbers don't even dip because there is a steady rotation of returning oldfags.
GUESS THE 0.5 numbers, it will surpass 0.1? Be worst than 0.2? Same as 0.4?
>>566252018>1.0 will be after exilecon in decemberreally makes you think
1. Massive Endgame & Atlas Overhaul Physical World Exploration: The endgame is no longer just a UI menu; it is a physical map of the continent that you actively explore. You can even travel across the ocean to find "Grand Expeditions" (which replace the old logbook system). The "Fortress" Progression: To prevent players from feeling lost or burned out, there is a clear main questline focused on completing the "Fortress," which takes about 40-50 maps. This provides a definitive, satisfying stopping point for players, after which they can choose to engage with the "infinite" endgame. Fully Allocatable Atlas Tree: The new Atlas passive tree features over 300 nodes, and you can now fully allocate the entire tree without needing to constantly spend currency to respec your choices. Atlas Masters: Since the tree is fully unlocked, the strategic choice has been moved to "Atlas Masters." You can easily swap between different Masters before running a map to quickly change your targeted mechanics and rewards.2. "Runes of Aldur" League & Insane Crafting Massive Arsenal of Runes: This Calguuran-themed league introduces 160 new runes into the game. Transformative Rune Forging: You can drastically alter item bases. For example, a hybrid unique shield (Armor/Evasion) can be completely converted into a pure Evasion or pure Strength base. Stealing Unique Modifiers: A new item called Olroth's Legacy allows you to destroy a unique item, extract one of its unique modifiers, and turn it into a socketable rune.3. Major Balance Changes: Defenses & Recovery The Leech Nerf/Rework: The life leech system is now limited to a "single source," meaning it only calculates healing from your biggest hit. To prevent players from becoming effectively immortal via millions of DPS, there is now a hard cap on the damage calculated for leech. Extra damage beyond that cap won't grant more healing.
>>566251659No.
>Poo2 fags keep harping on about bloat being bad in other ARPGs>GGG adds a metric fucking ton of bloat to the game that isn't even interesting>They're now forced to act like they like itYou fucking get what you deserve.
>>566252356it will follow the downward trend of all the patches before it.
>>566252356I'll go with 265k. Considering 0.4 couldn't even break 300k during a Christmas time slot, things are looking pretty bleak.
>>566252306They’ve literally dropped the stuff they’ve been working on for years. It doesn’t feel like a proper update like 0.3 or 0.4, just something they’ve got ready while they finish the game up to 1.0.
>cont.Base Defenses Buffed: The developers noticed players were dying too easily in the mid-game, so they significantly increased the base armor and evasion stats on gear leading up to the late endgame. Runic Ward: A brand-new defensive layer that works independently of energy shield, allowing you to trade life for powerful, cross-class Calguuran abilities.4. Quality of Life (QoL) & Campaign Improvements In-Game Build Planner: A robust build planner is being added that features a one-click import function from community websites directly into your account, which is a massive upgrade for both PC and console players. Smart Campaign Signposting: To help players navigate levels faster without shrinking the map sizes, developers added subtle visual cues. For example, if you are looking for the Venom Crypts, all the neutral snake critters in the area will physically slither in that exact direction. "Temple Snaking" Exploit Fixed: The highly abused strategy of manipulating temple layouts to generate absurd amounts of loot has been completely removed from the game.5. What is NOT Included in Patch 0.5 There will be no new classes (such as the highly anticipated Druid) or new weapon types in this update, as creating an entire class takes longer than a single development cycle. The final acts of the campaign (Acts 5 and 6) are also being held back and will be released alongside the official 1.0 launch.https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1t72y4x/ziggyd_qa_summary/
>>5662523561 milly
>>566252425>Poo2 fags keep harping on about bloat being bad in other ARPGswhat arpgs? by 0.3 poe2 had more shit in it that every other arpg aside from poe1.
>>566251787Diablo 4 is shitting and pissing all over Poo2's rancid corpse though
>>566252473>cope cope cope copepoo2 is liquid dogshit and will never be good. just stop getting invested in that chinkslop game. they didn't have this ready, they took half a year to come up with it.
>>566252586>Blizzard actually surpassed GGG finally after decades of being moggedI shed I tear.
Just a reminder that it took Blizzard two years to develop the current DLC for Diablo 4 and it doesn’t even have a tenth of the content we get in 0.5
>>566223226>4 reheated leagues>no brand new league>one or two new pinnacles>still infinite atlass>no new class>no tota>no act 5
>>566252596it's ggg, there is no "ready" or "finished".
PoE2
>>566252669reminder that blizzard started development of d4 a year after poo2 got announced, and they released their game and 2 expansions before poo2 got even close to 1.0
>>566252669>500 currencies
>>566252758>Diablo IV began active development/production around 2016 under the code name "Project Fenris".
2 games100 crafting benches100000 currencies
Realistic speaking, what will we get on Act 5 or 6? In theory act 1 is the introduction to the game, 2 is the first ascendancy, 3 is the second ascendancy and the 4th act is supposed to have the third ascendancy, what will be the "main attraction" on 5 and 6 to keep normies playing the game? Introduction to the pantheon system? I'm actually worried about 1.0, act 5 can fumble hardcore if it lacks anything new to dad gamers, Act 6 can stand on his own as the final act so doesn't need an actual mechanic, maybe just a introduction to mapping for normies...
>>566252758Diablo 4 was announced in the same year as Path of Exile 2. Development on Diablo 4 began back in 2014, when they cancelled the second DLC for Diablo 3.
I haven't finished watching the content reveal yet. I'm not so sure about this Atlas tree though. Did they say if they were still allowing effectiveness vs. pack size scaling, or is the choice just going to amount to a couple of nodes we get to pick behind? "You get every point" is really fucking boring, and changing the choice part behind atlas classes (wtf) really just reeks of the talent tree reworks WoW did to "choose 1 of 3, 5 times" instead of actual trees.
>>566252669>2 classes and endgame rework vs 0 classes and a endgame non-reworkYou lost
>>566251787Let's be honest, we like PoE and ggg because it's not blizzard.But the game, Diablo4, is better. Not hyper better but still better.blizzard, on the other hand, is still a fucking plague with their $90 game + $90 expansion + $90 MTX + $90 battlepass + $90 tips
>>566252938But D4 released 3 classes, 12 seasons, 3 endgame reworks and still put the goddess of fertility Megan Fox to shill the game, what we got on PoE2? A old saggytits nigger and some native retards screaming on their lungs.
why does it matter again? having less points but the points being stronger > more points with weaker points
>>566252938Somehow Poe 2 still gets more new active skills lolAlso calling War Plans an endgame rework is certainly a bit of a stretch. It's more like adding a very basic endgame that wasn't there before.
>>566252825>>566252917the point is: d4 released 2 full expansions and is a massive financial success, poo2 is still in EA and is declining, failing and gathering massive negative player sentiment.
>>566251282no lolare you crazy? have you seen the amount of useless things they've added?
You get a crafting bench!You get a crafting bench!Youuuuuuu get crafting bench!
>Jonathan in approximately 4 years when GGG is bankrupt and it's leaked that he was a saboteur sent by Blizzard playing the long game
>>566253054BROOO your 8% ward recharge rate and +15% phyiscal damage -3% attack speed, JUST BELIEVE IN THE POOL FILLING METHOD!
>make new game because bloat bad>new game is more bloated than previous game 5 patches in
>>566253095>full expansionslol how many expansions before they add diablo?
>>566253095Diablo 4 is still less complete than Path of Exile 2 even as it stands now. It took them two paid expansions to add a very basic endgame.
>>566253243>to add a very basic endgameBro...
>Poe 2 is not releasing this year>its probably releasing late Q1 or early Q2>this means that we will have to wait at least 15+ months for the next patch on PoE1DAMN, I FUCKING LOVE JONATHAN, HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
>>566253243i dunno even no and first expansion d4 endgame was fun for 2-3 days every couple seasonspoo2 has never been fun so far
endgame is the part of the game which takes place after the campaign you stupid redditors
>>566253054The point is freedom. A wide variety of build that can adapt to the content.
Woodful did it again, the tub is filled to the brim!
>>566253095>and gathering massive negative player sentimentToo bad we don't have an equal barometer for d4 player sentiment because discussion about it is a ghost town
Employee headcount 330:Balance: 2 employeesAnimation: 4 employeesProgramming: 5 employeesCurrencies and Crafting Benches: 319 employeessomeone who is good at game dev help me allocate employees my game is dying
>>566253220Honestly, Breach, Ritual, Delirium and Expedition are too similar and general and many of them should just be combined into one.
Daily quests aren't endgame content
>>566253437I added a bunch more currencies boss, hope this helps.I also fired and beat the shit out of the guy that said to just add a bench and scrap all this like you ordered.
>>566253437315 of those 319 devs are there for asset generation. poo2 is all smoke and mirrors
>>566252460>line skips a datapointlmao
>>566253220But PoE2 is much more coherent. In PoE1, it's **literally** random shits in your face
pou-pou de peepee
>>566238214
>>566253527>he can't read a chartI have never seen a stock scream SELL as much as PoE 2s player count.
Diablo 4 is such a great and successful game that it can’t even sustain a thread on /vg/
>>566251282It's a bit hard to get into at this point, too many mechanics
>>566253527the datapoint we skipped is under the line. that's not a good thing for your side of the argument, if you haven't noticed.>>566253529the incoherent shit is what gives the game soul, poo2 is just 1 homogenous mass of sludge
>>566253513Trippling down on this shit rune system, can't wait for the game to have 500+ runes and 99% of the userbase just using or chasing the classic Attack speed, movement speed and cast speed runes.
>>566253220Why did they do this? PoE 1 players will still stick to 1, and PoE 2 players wanted this exact thing to not happen wtf
>>566251215>one of them turns fire damage into cold damagethats a support gem, and why would i want to turn fire into cold? OOOh it freezes... you dont need to freeze shit when you kill things in 1 second
Click this for a jumpscare.(INSANELY SCARY)
Poe 1 is shit with corn so people love itPoe 2 is diarrhoeaDiablo 4 is bloody diarrhoea from tranny
>>566253031what am i supposed to be looking at in this image
I'm sure the 6 thousand people still left playing are extremely happy about the league.
>>566253635oh no, whatever will blizzard do when they realize that the baskettranny forum doesn't maintain a generalthis has brought great shame to their stock price
>>566252097concession accepted. people played druid cuz it was fun, while you only wanted clear speed and didnt play druid. youre a zombie
>>566253847you mean poe 1 or 2?
>add lots of content nobody asked forare you guys not happy?
Runes are SOULCrafting bench is SOULLESSYou can’t argue with this
>>566235619>that 35 second markOof. Jon is coping hard
>>566253635there are no games left, they are back to d4.>heh last epoch is gonna ACK>no rest for wi-ACK>wait until titan qu-ACK>big patch for no rest for the wi-ACK>grim d-ACK>d-d-diablo expansion is pretty goo-ACK
>>566251641LE is good but it's really forgettable, i played it a couple of times and i still have no idea what's the story about or who are the characters. Also isn't the campaign still not finished in that game too?
>>566253971more like trunes LMFAO
>>566253895I league-started Wyvern Shaman and stuck with it despite it clearing like a clunky piece of shit cleave build with no speed scaling.
>>566253356Poe 1 has its own dev team though.
>>566254010
>>566253971Wrong, runes are cringe and souless, RUNEWORDS are PURE SOUL.Every single games that put runewords systems are 10x better than anything made by Chris shart wilson.
>Like PoE 1 but the bloat is making it hard for me to ever actually really fully appreciate the game, but I understand why people who were playing the game all this time and were there for when the mechanics were introduced 1 by 1 don't just want them removed>PoE 2 is in development and their stated goal is reducing this exact dynamic >excited, but game is very unfinished so I decide to wait for 1.0 and then enjoy a blank slate gamethis backfired huh? I didn't think they'd do this shit to the game before it's even finished
Why do Chinks love system bloat so much? Every chink game I've played is filled and filled with systems and mechanics on top of each other.
>>566253971It's crazy that d2 can do more with just a single cube and like 5 different type of currencies than poe2 can do with all of those different systems. Just copy them at this point you clearly don't know how to do it.
>>566254228>It's crazy that d2 can do more with just a single cube and like 5 different type of currencies than poe2 can do with all of those different systemsNow that a copeDiablo 2 loot and crafting is bad
>>566254228stop lying
>>566254101We're bloatmaxxing now.
>>566254183If you watched the Chris/Jon interview, Chris spoke about how he liked and tried to make simpler mechanics like Sentinel while Jon and Mark wanted super autistic shit. Losing Chris the Tardwrangler hurt the game.
> The Leech Nerf/Rework: The life leech system is now limited to a "single source," meaning it only calculates healing from your biggest hit. To prevent players from becoming effectively immortal via millions of DPS, there is now a hard cap on the damage calculated for leech. Extra damage beyond that cap won't grant more healing. HAHAHAHAHAH LEECH IS DEAD HAHAHA FUCK YOU JONATHAN
the chris/jonathan interview was weird. they are childhood friends, created and worked in the same company for 17 years and are literal neighbours like door2door neighbours but they talked like they havent seen or spoken to each other for several years. someone needs to investigate this something smells fishy here I dont buy it.
>>566254301>Diablo 2 loot and crafting is badDiablo 2 loot system > poe1 and poe 2 loot system
>>566254309>>566254332PoEtarded tubrains
>>566254404Source?
>>566254404>Exilecon 2023>Jonathan: Yeah Leech on PoE1 just lost the point, its a huge formula, in PoE 2 we will make everything simpler>PoE 2 0.5 announcement:>Leech reworked to be ass and hard to understand just like PoE1JONATHAN IS THE ANTI CHRIST!
>>566254510>why was this interaction between two autists weird
>>566254612Post interview with NiggyD like an hour or so in.
>>566254510Isn't obvious? Chris is a antisemitic and Jonathan wife is a arab-jewish, they fighted a lot during the October 7th event, its hinted on glassdoor reviews that politics entered late development of PoE2 and made it impossible to talk with leadership.
Baby-making sex with Muala... wait, this is not /gig/ wtf?
>>566254228The flood of currency in PoE is intentional and it's a dark pattern designed to force you to buy tabs.
>>566254634actual life leech is either useless or op, there is no "just good" leech because if it doesn't make a difference (feel op) it's just useless.
>>566254510they are not real they are egregores
After sleeping through it I realise I’m still hyped. I’m not surprised this thread is seething given that all the changes are in line with the Vision.Aside from the obvious changes to the endgame, I’m pleased that they’ve kept the infinite atlas and made it more interesting by linking different directions to different mechanics. The new combo skills and the improved low-level unique items are also a huge improvement.
>>566255004probably making weak and shit so it can be op for the new marauder leech ascendancy...
>160 runes
this week, on The Undateables
>>566254510100% agreed. It also felt to me like Jonathan thinks he's smarter and above Chris. Chris talked about how stressful running the business side of things was and asked Jonathan how it was going and Jon basically told him that he doesn't even think about it.
>>566254612q&a with ziggyleech is gone nowward is unneccesary
>>566255258chris has done nothing but buy magic cards for the past three years
>>566254510How often do you sit around and get interviewed by a friend about all the details of your work?It's weird.
>>566255253these fucking faggots live 2 meters away from each other and they sit here in separate rooms talking to each other over the internet. make it make sense to me.
As a newish player of poe ~600h i still have no idea which mechanic i should do or which mechanic gives me the best rewardsOr what the "gives modifier from x pool" actually means
adding these endgame rework and lore without finishing the acts looks weird>we failed to kill the beast>beast now spreads corruption>we are task to clean it>somehow precursors are back>why do we need to kill geonor, jamanra, doryani again>killing the arbiter doesn't do shit since there's a higher behind this shit
those kalguur skills have to carry hard, cause there's pretty much no skill left to try
kalguur skills will either be use as a way to proc coc or a spell to use for coc no in-between
>>566254634>Leech reworked to be ass and hard to understand just like PoE1actual biggest retard in the thread award
sooooo 1.0 will NOT have any new classesor swords or daggers or flailsfucking lmaodid poe1 1.0 start with all classes?
>>566255796They commented on this and it is being handled by different teams so it does not depend on one another.
>>566256025retard
>>566254510my suspicion about jonatroon being an overbearing fatfuck breathing down everyone's neck has been confirmed in this interview.while chris would also handle the company side of things and allow his devs some degree of autonomy and decision making, jonatroon just delegated his company responsabilities to some suits and is exclusively working on poe2.this explains the downfall of poe2 and has come to literally no one surprise.
>>566256045Yes, 1.0 came with the scion but there were no ascendancies so classes only had a different start position on the tree and marginally different base attributes.
Believe in Jonathan and Mark brilliance, they will cook in those 3 weeks, remember that they released a new asncendancy in 0.4 in the week before launch, now they have 3 weeks, I'm sure that they will release Duelist + swords + 1 ascendancy in those 3 weeks!
>>566231119D4>>566238848Retard
>>566256045wait they actually said this? The full release of an ARPG won't have every class archetype or weapon type? I hate EA shit, actually so fucking annoying
>>566231119
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>>566256045Yeah, but Ascendancies only got added in 2.0 or whatever. Act 6 was only added in 3.0, 1.0 only had 3 acts>>566256318>wait they actually said this?No
>>566254510I don't think its weird. It's an interview so there's a whole bunch of keyfabe. If Chris just knew everything then it wouldn't be an interview, the whole thing is functionally a performance for the audience
>>566256318They've said they don't need every class to be in 1.0 for over a year now, but they didn't say 1.0 wouldn't have any new class.
what the fuck is wrong with jonatroon? we have been playing the same unchanged endgame for years at this point, why did he think it was a good idea to dump a campaign and some slop classes into the game instead of something important?1.0 should have been an endgame expansion not a campaign everyone wants to skip. oops i got my doomie script mixed up, this is 0.5. WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE REST OF THE ACTS?
>6 months>no new act>no new class>no new weapon type>infinite atlas and tower stay>breach rework taken straight from poo1>delirium rework is just adding a bar>only 8 challengesAt least we get RF so it's good I guess
what's the bis beast to tame as sw?
>>566254634It's almost like leech in PoE1 was changed to use that formula because the old simple leech system was easy to abuseAnother lesson relearned
>>566242214You mean is mace good yet. What melee lol, game will have one melee weapon on release.
>only 8 challengesBEST UPDATE EVER
>>566256669six million gallons of water for this
>>566256447Johnny said they a full patch cycle to make 1 class, no way they make all the missing ones+ascendancies for december.
1.0 will just be duelist, acts 5/6, and a league mechanic
>>566256698niggers in africa drink more than that and do less for me
>>566256778They've been working on these classes for quite some time.
>>566256318Yes in the interview with ziggy they said theres no new content coming until and in 1.0
>>566253809>cheating benchhope they don't add that shit to 2, or add ruthless if they do
>>566256502The burnout rate is going to be insane. I bet most neets won't make it, no matter how much they force themselves doing the ever-increasing league grind. 1.0 may get big numbers due to being finally free and hordes of retards grinding pixel currency to turn it into real pennies. These freaks will drop the game for good. Not even the gacha freaks who hop from one service game to another will bear the grind, let alone the twenty hour campaign.
>>566256979>and inretard
>>566256446dawn
wtf was thisWhy the fuck did they focus so much on sword?
>>566257120That's a spear
>>566257120Bait and switch tactics to generate hype.
What does Kelly look like?
>>566257120duelist reveal sometime in the next 3 weekstrust
>>566255796We’ll probably kill the Beast in the last act but Third Edict will turn the world into this crap and awakens the ancients who will decide to destroy the world
>>566257223go to GGG's linkedin
>>566256913Yeah sure lmao
You know what I don’t like? They didn’t show anything about crafting in Expedition. No way they’re leaving all their merchants exactly as they are, right?
>hyper endgame>6 new pinnacle bosses>160 runes>40 uniques>2 ascendencies>tons of lore and stories>20+ new maps>in depth campaign We eating good
>>566256502All they had to do was add a class, nobody gives a fuck about the rework. Insane decison.
>>566251282I'm a new player since EA and I'm literally leaving because of .5They fucking rugpulled me. All of you did. I was told the game was definitely not gunna be a cookie clicker skinnerbox this time for sure.Yeah, fucking hilarious. Now I gotta socket the socket on the sockets of the sockets to bing bang boom the thing to make green sparkles kill the enemies instead of the other guys 'build' that is blue sparkles. No fucking melee in the game at all not one attack is true melee not even the 'default' attack since you don't even actually hit them with your weapon, there's like a diceroll hitbox thing that says you hit them like an mmo. Been waiting and waiting hoping an update would fix the combat or whatever maybe it'd get good when they add the other weapons but I'm done. I aint coming back now that I've seen where their heads are at.
>new endgame content>it's actually barely any new content, just more systems, mechanics and currencies to keep you occupied from playing the actual gamehuh!? Am I missing something here, why is this good?
>we want meaningful combat>Yes we added this walking simulator build very cool yes
>>566257678I think Diablo 4 will be a better fit for you. I’ve heard that Blizzard are very inclusive and add loads of accessibility options to their games.
>>566246056>Endgame isn't even reworked, just added a bunch of shit on top of itThis was my takeaway too. The endgames just the same but grindier, which is hilariously tonedeaf.But you have to realize poe2 is being designed for people who don't/won't play poe1 so they don't know what an actual good endgame is.
>>566257736bread and circus
I genuinly never thought they'd OVER deliver but man, what a freaking reveal, bros. Jonathan does it again
Shut up nerd, leech in poe 2 was absolute garbage and needed rework one way or another. good change. say what you want, you will be wrong.
what uuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhI mean. These fucking quests and shit. I only remember reading complaints about them. WHy the fuck do I want that in my game agai?>Well PoE has it and it's a longstanding feature thatBLAHBLAHBLAHTell me why I want these dipshit quests cause I don't think i do.
>>566257736>>it's actually barely any new content, >just more content, content and content to keep you occupied from playing the actual game
>>566257915Anyone remembers the leech resistance memes before 0.1? What happened to that
It’s all just a bunch of butthurt Poe 1 faggots throwing a tantrum because they’ll never get to beat the final bosses of all the mechanics. It must be sad to realise that your favourite game is just a stepping stone to Poe 2. They’re literally cucks. Imagine killing the boss and he goes "I’m just a lowly minion and to kill my master you’ll have to play Poe 2"
*clap*slow*clap*and*clap*methodical*clap*gameplay*clap*
>>566257915'vke
poefags ruining poe2 hate poefags so much
2jeet melty
0.5 is one of the biggest patches in ARPG history, yet the discussion is filled with bickering and complaints. Seriously, there isn't even any other company that punches in the same weight class as GGG when it comes to free content updates, and this is their biggest one yet, how is the dominating topic right now if not having swords is an acceptable trade-off for effectively having 5 leagues worth of content at once??? It's insane.
>>566258476I'd rather have swords and more skills than 5 leagues worth of bloat mechanics you have to feed into an AI to know the best way to craft an item with
>>566258158>I'm fine with no new weapon types being added after years, dozen of skills missing, acts never getting finished, and an endless rework of old stuffHow long have you been gaslighting yourself into believing this?
>>566258607NEXT>>566258607NEXT>>566258607NEXT>>566258607NEXT
>>566258476Toxic positivity: the post.
>>566257427>Not fatgood good
>>566256510Brown Nose Brothers clapping that they've got a giant checklist
>you'll need 10 new tabs, NO SALE UNTIL 1.0THANKS TROONATAN
>>566257427>"Kelly Chiew"Interesting. Somehow expected her to look different.
Looks and feels exactly like Bex
>>566252669D4 has swordsPoo2 has no swordsPoo2 lostyou are a trannyYWNBAW
>>566223507This. I hope he interviews Mark or other interesting people from GGG later
>>566239949its the "challenge set", while playing the game you naturally complete challenges (and others you can targetfarm), and once you do x amount of the challenges you get y skin reward, a skin for boots, gloves, helmet and armor. it's a free skin that you can grind for basically
>>566251282Yes but mostly if you already bought it imo, if you don't mind paying for a game that will be free on release then go for it and if you liked it or didnt just play the full release later. The people telling you don't play, because poe1 is poe20.5 but better are directly contradicting the people telling you to not play the game because 0.5 deviated from the poe2 VISION. they are trolling you.
>>566235709I can't stop kneeling...
