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Checkpoint: >>566231002
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SEX WITH
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>>566328089
PENI PARKER!
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DC WOMEN MOG MARVEL GIRLS BTW
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Why do they keep trying to make Eddie skins for venom. His body proportions are FUCKED because of venom. Just give Eddie a few solo voice lines if it's that big a deal
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>>566328271
sure does
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>>566328271
honestly based
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https://files.catbox.moe/j12h5q.jpg
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>>566328271
Truth but this reads like a butthurt falseflagging from the side that lost so cringe
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>>566328271
>DC WOMEN MOG MARVEL GIRLS BTW
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>>566328420
Eddie is genuinely just that ripped. He can be huge and hulking just fine.
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No way Doom is multirole. This guy is built like a fridge
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>>566328420
Trvth
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Psylocke’s game
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>>566329232
I don't care if he's multirole as long as he's a tank.
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>>566328271
goood ole mogging
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>>566329630
Why is she asian
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>Yes I play Loki
>No I will not ult the heal bot support, that's for faggots
>No I will not swap to a better support
>Yes I will ult the Mag when Punsher or CnD ults
>I will ult the Groot to keep CC going
>I will ult the Wolverine to be a fucking menace for the enemy tanks
>I will ult the Adam to revive my team
>I will not ult Luna to counter ult her ult, I will ult the Iron Man to just fucking get rid of her
>I will ult Hulk no matter what
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>>566329232
>No way Doom is multirole
Very obvious that all of their player magnet releases will be multirole
>deadpool
>doom
>thanos
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so close!
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>>566329232
Agreed. Vanguard seems obvious. It should be noted that they’re most likely going to go for 2099 though so they could throw us a curveball.
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They'll be bringing back all the old swimsuits in the next season right?
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>>566328420
I want Eddie skin that just has the venom suit and his face instead
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>>566329232
I dont think we'll get either of those Dooms.
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Add Jarella as plush for Hulk.
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>>566331057
nah, he got red she-hulk already
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>>566329221
peterbros… milesjeets… how can we compete…
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>>566331057
would you accept Caiera?
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>>566329552
No licking the cute ninja girl, she doesn't know how to react

>>566330329
I hope not so they stay special for longer, but since Netease loves money they most likely will. Well, at least the ones that were in the store
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confirmed summer skins
white fox, luna v2, psylocke v2, black cat
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All of Peter's brown love interests are for Miles.
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If they launch the season with a dinosaur they are actually retrarded
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>>566332048
Were Sue and Luna's in the shop or part of an event? Those are the main two I like
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>>566332412
luna was a cash only, not coin, mini pass
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>>566332412
Sue's was in the store, but Luna's had a mini battlepass you had to do
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wait it is true elsa death sound is loud asf hahahaha
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Cat wife
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>>566332545
>>566332595
Well hopefully at least the Sue one comes back then. I don't really play Luna I just think it's one of the better swimsuits they added
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>>566332412
Sue was store
Luna was a mini pass but if she comes back it’s the full 2200 price
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>>566332262
>they are actually retarded
Over a year later and you’re just figuring this out? These are the geniuses who thought a dual duelist season was a good idea
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Seeing Elsa and her shorts in the maid skin, this years summer skins might not be as hot as last years.
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How do I get good as Venom?
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>>566329221
eddit has a normal human neck in the comics. just look at the new venom skin with eddie's head on venom's default body and it looks fucking bizarre how long his neck is.
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Guh...this guy makes his White Fox look so plump and juicy
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>>566333482
looks fucking stupid, might as well be another character
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Bucky status? Did he end up getting buffed or nerfed in 7.5?
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>>566331470
yes add them both
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>>566333083
1. Get good at landing headshots with M1 and weave melee attacks between shots
2. Coordinate dives

Venom is good but he needs team coordination to take advantage of the distraction he brings. And obviously you need to be good at dealing damage because you need to actually be a threat. Also learn to have fun getting CC'd to death because it'll happen very often.
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>>566332812
I am expecting scarfs and shorts
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>>566333590
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>>566333482
>>566334782
guh!
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>Was winning a very winnable game
>Lose first point
>Our bad DPS leaves
>Our second DPS starts whining we didn't swap to Strange to TP (There was no reason to fucking TP) and that we didn't go Rocket
>Starts to AFK and threatens to leave as well if we don't surrender
>Eventually surrender
>Immediately goes scorched earth in chat
Amazing how a winnable game turns to this. Why are both DPSes and Supports all like these faggots?
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>>566335775
This game attracts low IQ, big ego shitters.
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>>566335775
telling someone to swap is the easiest way to lose a match, imo
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>>566337074
>ask Squirrel girl to swap to a better poke for taking out two flyers on enemy team
>she decides it's someone else's problem
>second DPS switches to third healer for some fucked ass retarded reason
>me and Thing now the only ones trying to take out their flyers which requires us to just dive deep into enemy ranks to try to get them, if we can even reach at all
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memba when magik was all about magic and shit?
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Sex with this dirty dish rag
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>lose attack round on heart of heaven with one checkpoint left
>next round; solo Emma’s text arguing with our SG who’s on voice, throwing the game after dying once
The worst way to go
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>>566332812
Might be just another Squirrel Girl situation where they absolutely refuse to show her fat cheeks for some reason.
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If a skin doesn’t have good mods I won’t buy it. If it has good mods I will. Simple as.
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>>566337636
And this golden god
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>>566328271
no shot.
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>>566338565
i hate that i've started to feel this way about every costume they make for Emma Frost.
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>>566328271
I want to fuck the magic girl with the top hat. She is hot as hell
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>plat 3
>lower manhattan
>enemy team has high leveled metaslave lord icon players
>my team has a shitty punisher and a guy forcing iron fist

honestly i really understand why people think there's a conspiracy around eomm, games like these are just miserable
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>>566340673
because most good players can carry themselves out of metal ranks regardless of agents with at least a 70% win rate and so you're left with 50% win rate players blaming others instead of accepting they aren't as good as they think they are
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>>566340673
i noticed my player stats yesterday had me with almost 60% mvp rate (average seems like 15%) and i bitched about it in this thread. then today i won 13 out of 14 games while still being mvp over for half of them. coincidence?? i think not

>>566340829
climbing metal ranks isn't that hard in my experience, diamond/gm are the hardest since they have the most delusional nutcases who reduce match quality to 0 and your ability to win largely hinges upon tard wrangling and patience
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>>566340673
not gonna lie anon i've only been playing for a few weeks and i was in diamond before i got my first lord so anyone with multiple lords in plat 3 is probably a hardstuck shitter who has hundreds of hours but no actual skill

>>566341539
>diamond/gm are the hardest since they have the most delusional nutcases who reduce match quality to 0 and your ability to win largely hinges upon tard wrangling and patience
this is my experience as well, games became 10x harder when i hit diamond and differences in mechanical skill are only a part of the reason why
this rank is a magnet for big ego shitters who'll throw over nothing
and if they aren't throwing, they are raging on comms and lowering team morale which is arguably worse
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do the ladies prefer thor with a beard or without one?
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>>566341539
>>566341706
ive noticed gm is filled with more crybabies than even diamond, why is that?
>lose first fight
>tank swaps to widow and cries in match chat
or
>cnd banned, wasn't hovered by anyone
>supp and her carry get mad and throw
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>>566341706
>this is my experience as well, games became 10x harder when i hit diamond and differences in mechanical skill are only a part of the reason why
yea every team game with a comp mode i've tried has had the same thing. in overwatch it was low diamond, in dota 2 it was 4k to 5k crossover point for the longest time, in rivals it seems to be the diamond 2 to gm 2 or so

funniest part is once you get over that weird grief hump, games get harder but your winrate can actually go up since you are actually impacting your games again (instead of the resident griefer deciding who wins)
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Remove tenactiy.
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>>566342931
based bronze warrior
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>>566342931
was this bronze 3 or qp?
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>>566342931
Where are your two tanks?? Everyone knows that if two people don’t pick tank when the game starts it’s an automatic loss and that any comp besides 2/2/2 is throwing
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>>566343039
>>566343098
qp but it was a plat lobby according to tracker.gg
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>>566342931
>trying their absolute hardest in qp, 500+ hour sweats
vs
>casually relaxing and having a good time with their friends, just started playing
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>>566343225
Rogue was my most played last season and I haven't played tank since they added tenacity, and I've won more games. You get however many healers and tanks as you get and you just play someone who doesn't use CC to kill like storm or namor or something, and then you just win. Remove tenacity.
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>>566343472
Actually star lord was being toxic in chat all game and getting angry about the picks and a lot of the other team were bitching about their healers. It's litearlly just that 0/X/X comps are best now. They had a tank and we didn't, so we won. That's tenacity meta.
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WE WON ONCE, NAMORBROS!
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>>566328439
That game is the furthest thing from actual DC
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>>566343690
>It's litearlly just that 0/X/X comps are best now.
spoken like a silver player
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>>566343802
thats our resident eternity mascot, learn your place bronze dog
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>>566343802
It's pretty consistent in my experience this season. The team with fewer tanks wins like 90% of the time.
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Soon
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to be fair i would agree that 1 tank comps are generally better but that's because most tanks are fucking SHIT. the only ones truly worth picking every match are mag and strange, and you want to keep strange free for portal cheese, so... lol
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>>566343763
ignore disingenuous shitposters
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qp is just more fun than comp because people dgaf about team comps and i don't constantly have to play into pokeslop, but i also can't ban op crutch characters either, so it's really a double-edged sword
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>>566344108
I don't believe you. Solo tanking is fucking miserable because your frontline collapse with one death.
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>Tanks? Don’t need ‘em.
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>>566344937
So don't solo tank, what part of this aren't you getting? If playing tank is just leading to your team getting fried and you can't do the tank job as it, then don't play a tank. Just allow your team to have 0 tanks and win instead. I'm saying tank is misterable and you're saying you don't beleive me because you're miserable when you tank?
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>>566345256
Duo tank is fun.
Solo tank is not.
I have never lost to a team with zero tanks.
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>>566344937
it really depends on the gamemode imo

if you're on payload/hybrid defense, then you kinda need 2 tanks because you are just holding ground and trying to keep the game status the same

if you're on attack or on domination, then playing with 1 tank doesn't matter that much because the tank doesn't actively need to hold ground (except to contest sometimes) while the other players maneuver for kills. even if someone on your team dies due to lack of survivability, it doesn't matter that much as long as you kill the enemy team too and force them to give up space
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>>566345345
Haven't played a lot this season? Or do you play 0 cc tanks like Cap or something
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>>566345413
That's true, it certainly sucks a lot less on domination, but domination sucks way more in general so it balances out.

>>566345440
I just started playing a few weeks ago, all of my play time is this season, and I main Strange. I don't think my ult has ever been ruined by tenacity, but a single target may have gotten out of a multi-hit stun a few times.
Tenacity is a huge fucking problem for Thing and Angela but it's not so much of an issue if you are playing Strange or Magneto. This idea that it makes tanks unplayable is absurd. It just makes the bad tanks unplayable.
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>>566345232
I like yanking Venom when he's about to leave.
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>>566345604
Just not paying attention, then. Even if it doesn't fuck yours, it fucks your teams after. Someone is always going to get fucked by it, even if you don't see it.
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>>566346253
I do occasionally notice it. It's a bright white glow. It is so rare that it always stands out when it happens.
You are bronze.
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>>566339156
I'll watch.
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No idea what's happening, but I'm getting a crazy amount of people leaving/disconnect from game recently.
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>>566346342
My guy you have been playing for literally 3 weeks and you think your first impressions are difinitevly correct? Fuck off.
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>>566346463
I have been playing longer than Tenacity has been in the game.
You are bronze.
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>Boot up game
>Queue into ranked
>First game on is a total blowout, my team stomps the enemy team, none of us die
>unqueue from ranked
I genuinely don't want to follow that kind of game up with more. There's nowhere to go but down...
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>>566346456
I just had two leavers in a row, in my first games of the day.
Is my third game gonna have a leaver too? Are the servers fucked?
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>>566346454
you're a cuck? we cannot be friends.
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>try psylocke for the first time since S2
>literally cannot kill anything

what the fuck did they do to this character? holy fuck she feels worse than squirrel girl.
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>>566346536
You don't know shit.
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>>566346775
she's stronger now...
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>>566346775
You got worse and the rest of the playerbase isn't rusty.
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>>566346775
>Don’t play a character for literal months
>Be surprised when you can’t play them properly
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>>566346810
>>566347346
>>566347410
The average mrg poster thinks they're ocmpletely infallible and if they ever lose it was the team or the character.
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>>566347346
>>566347410
>>566346810
>need to hit specific goldylocks zone 100% of the time or you do no damage

yeah at this point gambit and white fox are better DPS
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>>566346775
shes pretty crap imo, duelists have been power crept a bit and subsequently also healers got buffed to fight daredevil tier threats. psylocke has remained the same. she only has favorable matchups with a few heroes and is completely buck broken by stuff like loki or even just healer pattycake wrt her ult
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>>566346775
>>566347707
>>566347702
also yes don't be gaslit by people here. psylocke is not good. luna is already better than 70% of the duelist roster for dps and pick offs
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>>566346807
I know that you're bronze.
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>>566346775
She's built for Big Spider-Cock now.
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>>566347985
Give it a try. After next match when you've doubled your total playtime you can let me know.
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>>566348172
I don't need to try it because it sucks ass and the statistics back up my assumptions.
I'm sorry that you think things that work in your shitter QP lobbies are real strats but they aren't.
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why does the game think it's funny to match me up against peak celestials in qp?
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>>566348331
It works in all lobbies. Tomorrow when you finish your placements you'll figure it out.
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>>566348749
I get nothing but celestials too and I wouldn’t mind if every single one of them wasn’t a tremendous faggot
The moment they start losing the 300+ hour animated icon shit comes out
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>>566348852
I accept your concession and will not reply to you further.
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Next trailer when? Monday?
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>>566349037
most likely
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>>566349024
About fucking time. Go play your fourth ever game.
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Human Torch is really underrated now.
It's only matter of time before a streamer play him and he become popular again.
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>>566347852
yeah no kidding. psylocke genuinely feels awful to play as. i don't remember struggling with her that much back then. now it's like well you just get blown up by phoenix/elsa/DPSpool/punisher/bucky. what the fuck is she even good at? moon knight feels like a better DPS than her now.
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I agree that Psylocke needs buffs
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>>566349037
Tuesday
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>>566346775
>Jumping from S2 to S7.5 psy
That’s like playing prime torch, and trying out his soulless husk of himself, although psy is still a top dps because of her inherent traits. Wasnt her right click still 14 per pellet back then plus emma team up? We didn’t know how good we had it
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>>566349907
14 in season 0
12 in season 2.5-3.5
8 in season 4-6.5
9 now (functionally 10 since they buffed both the initial throw and recall from 8 --> 9)
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I'm sick of hearing "Invisible Woman is busted! NERF!". Unironic skill issue. No one wants to actually learn how to counter the opposition, they just want to tear down every character to make them unviable
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>>566349852
No, I want it this monday

Does the dinosaur come alone or with the little nigglette attached?
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>>566350146
she'd need a lot of tearing down to be unviable
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>>566349834
>Psylocke needs buffs
This claim is evidence that literally everyone will say their character needs buffs regardless of how good they actually are.
I’m sure there are Hela mains out there who whine on their subreddit about how susceptible she is to dive or some shit like that.
YOUR CHARACTER IS NOT BAD
YOU ARE BAD
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>>566349981
I don’t think she needs buffs at all, but if we ever get back 12 shurikens, that would be really fun
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After grinding proficiency for a bit in 18v18 I now realize how long the path to my Legendary Hulk title actually is.
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>>566350229
I'm pretty happy with where she is but i'd love it if she (and many other season 0 characters) got a new ability to match up to the bloated kits the newer heroes have. Could be something as simple as making the cloak teamup permanent and redesign it to fit her own aesthetic
Star-lord would be cool with a permanent recall, cap with a permanent 100% accuracy shield deflect, etc.
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>>566350146
what counters are there exactly to her
>inb4 daredevil
he is also overtuned and permabanned
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>>566350216
Psylocke is weak. She has been power crept by every single DPS character they've added along with her nerfs into being an ult merchant. You need less consistently good aiming skill to do better with other DPS characters. People perceive MOON KNIGHT as a bigger threat than Psylocke these days.
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>>566350491
>dood these new characters have such bloated kits
>how do we solve this? asking netease to make less overtuned kits in the future?
>no lets just give everyone more abilities
‘Season 0 Syndrome’ is a retarded meme and statements like the one above prove that anyone pushing it has no idea what they’re talking about
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>>566350752
>asking netease to make less overtuned kits in the future?
They're not going to do this
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>>566350491
I totally agree. A ton of the older cast feels almost primitive when compared to the new shiny heroes since post daredevil. The devs sure as hell don’t want to tune them down, so raising everyone to a new normal is a solution
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>>566350752
They're not going to stop their bloat retardation so the only way they can make it fair is double down on it
They're already doing it with shit like self flake and self shield
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Why is trying to kill shit as Rocket a pain in my ass? When a tank dives me, I'm immediately shooting the fucker but I always get outdamaged and die. What do I need to do?
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>>566351054
Are you asking why healers lose 1v1s?
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>>566350216
I’m not actually serious anon
I think she’s fine
That said I will always welcome ninja woman buffs
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>Like Ultron because he plays very similar to Zenyatta from Overwatch
>Except his healing is subpar and a fucker always goes third support
Why?
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>>566350148
Too bad. And most likely the baboon will come included since Disney loves pushing them together.
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>>566351175
ultron isn't a healer, he's a support DPS
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Is Rogue just dogshit? Does she require Gambit team up just to be good otherwise pick another tank?
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>>566351847
yes
yes
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>>566351847
If you don’t have gambit she is a shit tier tank
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>>566351872
>>566351928
Why is the only good brawler tank in this game Thor? Hulk gets deleted if you dare go in, Thing is dead due to CC update, Emma makes you miserable, etc. They gotta buff the other brawlers, it's fucking stupid.
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Why did they kill Captain America
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>>566351847
Rogue herself is good but like Thor she needs a main tank or else she can't function. Also her innate damage potential is hamstrung because the Gambit team up is so good.
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>>566352347
He’s better now than he’s ever been
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>elsa
>black cat
>gambit
>invis

fighting this as a tank is genuinely one of the most disgusting experiences ever
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>>566352347
China numba 1!!! Carol never!!!
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>>566352212
rogue is good, stop listening to this general. this place still thinks magik is C tier. rogue is literal cancer if things are going in her favor.
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>Like Thor's MCU skin
How bad is the movie though? All I know from it is:
>Lady Thor
>Bad CGI floating head
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>>566353094
most conflicting post award
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>>566353283
You've been playing for 3 weeks, haven't you.
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>>566353396
Thors movies are the biggest crime against that character in his entire publication. They sold great and made money but that is not even remotely Thor and they bastardize the plots of any good arc to an insane degree. It's the heaviest on marvel quip slop of any MCU franchise. I despise them with every fiber of my being. But that's coming from a big Thor fan.
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>kill a spidernigger one time
>he spends the rest of the game dry humping you specifically and solo ulting
Why are they literally all like this?
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>>566353396
they put girl thor in one of the movies?
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>>566353806
Yes in the latest one, but they completely fumbled it. The entire movie and just quipping between standing around in setpieces.
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>>566353701
Did you learn your lesson lil bro?
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>>566354007
>they completely fumbled it
is girl thor considered a good storyline? i remember /co/ seething about it
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>>566354062
Fuck no
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>>566354062
/co/ seethes about women wearing pants, they are not a good barometer. In fact if they weren't seething that'd be more damning because that would mean nobody was reading it. Lady Thor (I really hate that name because it is literally just Thor, so I usually say Jane Foster's Thor) was really good riiiiiight up until the end where it goes really nonsense to set up the next arc without really considering giving the current arc a satisfying ending. It was a good story with good characterization and a good examination of the characters and their roles for most of it though.
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>>566353701
I love when they do this and I play Hela because they just throw all game
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>get titled
>immediately play way worse
i need to learn when to stop queuing (as well as understanding that some heroes in this game are annoying and unfun to go against)
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>>566354062
It was an awful story arc that everyone rightfully hates and remembers with hate and vitriol. /co/ is usually retarded but yes they’re 100 percent right there.
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>>566354247
are you the anon who really likes america chavez?
just wondering
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>>566354731
No but thanks for the rousing confirmation of what I just said being true.
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>>566353094
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God my back fucking hurts after carrying these scrubs. 31 final hits next closest was 11.
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Oh boy I can't wait for Season 8! We'll get

>no Phoenix nerfs
>no Hela nerfs
>no Punisher shotgun adjustments
>no Magik nerfs
>Dr. Strange nerfs
>no Invis nerfs
>no Gambit ult nerfs
>no C&D nerfs
>DPS Luna remaining
>no Loki adjustments
>no Tenacity fixes
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>>566355987
my dad's uncle's third cousin works at nintendo and he says gambit is being buffed
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>>566356372
big if true
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>>566354062
It really wasn't. Made worse because the writer felt the need to try to throw shade at anyone who didn't like it for the rest of his days.
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>>566356372
Based. Mario and Luigi skins soon.
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>>566356372
My wife's boyfriends brother works at Netease and says Blade is getting a buff which will make her boyfriend happy as thats his main.

They duo all the time I miss when she would queue with me :(
She's a pretty good luna
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Reminder every single problem this game has is due to Duelists.
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>>565959013
Everyone cucks him albeit
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why is getting gold rank a requirement for getting the fox skin?
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>>566357416
because getting gold is trivially easy
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>>566357446
I spent the afternoon bouncing from silver 3 to bronze to back to silver 3 and it was the most demoralizing shit
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>>566357525
just lock in tankpool it's not that hard
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>>566357063
Loki who receives Lady Loki skin and becomes a chink psyop to keep AR15 cheaper than RAM IRL is a Strategist.
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>>566357525
okay admittedly there's an insane amount of RNG because usually the team with the least shitters wins
but assuming you have above-average aim (have you been playing shooters your whole life or are you new to them?) you should be able to climb pretty quick on a hero like phoenix or punisher that rewards mechanics
if you are playing like, thing or reed or another brawl hero that benefits the team but kind of sucks overall then don't do that, you need to be carrying if you want to climb fast
ideally you shouldn't be playing support, you can't carry as cnd or rocket
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>>566355987
>nerf all of the characters I can’t personally counter
>turn another strat into an m1 healbot
>fix tenacity (ie have it proc whenever retards get tickled by a single knockback as they’re attempting to 1v6)
Yeah things will be good as long as they don’t do any of that
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>>566357525
do you want help?
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>>566358115
i can't imagine anyone saying "fix tenacity" and meaning "make it stronger"
it can only mean "make it only trigger off multiple hard CC in a row" or "remove it"
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>>566358173
nah I logged off, too drained to deal with more for tonight
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Me putting my 340 damage Rocket player in the electric chair
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>>566358843
some rocket players think they aren't allowed to press m1
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>>566358506
okay well don't hesitate to post any other time for help, I don't think I'm the only one here. I'm not the best but I can definitely help win into gold.
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>>566357525
Play Rocket. The revive is the biggest band aid for bad teams.
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watching good black cat players legit makes me sick to my stomach. how the fuck do these retards keep making utterly broken DPS characters.
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White fox's boobs are the perfect size
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>>566352347
You mean by making him a dive tank instead of a shield tank?
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>>566359985
So is her ass
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>>566358843
I barely even play Rocket anymore so couldn't be me.
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>>566355987
The problem with Marvel Rivals is their inability to nerf problematic characters.
We're still waiting for Gambit, Elsa, Daredevil, and Phoenix nerfs despite all 4 of them being top tier picks for months now. This is causing so many problems because OP characters should be coming into the meta and leaving after a duration, it keeps the game interesting but I just dont see that happening here. If anything It's just made the game worse because we're gambling one or two broken characters per season and eventually there wont be enough bans to circumvent this.
Hell, there are tryhards in this game who have all the overpowered characters favorited because there's legitimately no reason not to, it's not like zhiyong is going to nerf them any time (Bucky for instance) and even if he does nerf them, he'll just quickly turn around and buff them (Psylocke).
Even I started playing Bucky, Punisher, Starlord way more this season because I think you're at a disadvantage if you dont know atleast 3-4 OP characters in the game.
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>>566359423
Judging by your lack of capitalization I can only assume you are both a zoomer and a tranny and therefore play supports, who are the most overpowered role in the game and have been since season 0, and therefore I’ll point out that this is essentially the pot calling the kettle black
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>>566360315
nta but i alternate between normal capitalization and no capitalization with no actual pattern on which i use or why, in part to obscure the fact that i am one person by having multiple typing styles
and yet, i am neither a zoomer nor a tranny
therefore you are a faggot
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>>566353396
>>566353563
I went back on an MCU rewatch and I'd say

>Thor
Better than I remember but just an okay movie. The best parts were just Thor as a fish out of water but they did nothing with Donald Blake or making Thor a real guy.

>Dark World
Completely forgettable CGI movie.

>Ragnarok
Struck a good balance of goofy and quality, but thing is you can only really play this card one time as a 180 from previous movies. Planet Hulk aspects were fun. I was blown away that this movie advocated for ethno-nationalism like holy shit how fucking based.

>L&T
Basically a goofy Thor cartoon intercut with incredibly dramatic Christian Bale bits.

Overall the Avengers movies handle Thor better usually than the Thor movies. The Russos let him be serious but bring comedy out of his serious interactions while portraying him as the most powerful Avenger. Even when he was fat Thor it was funny while Thor was serious and on a mission himself even after having lost his way. The movies more or less brush under the rug that Thor lost his mother, father, brother, and then half of the universe all in the span of these films because they focus more on Iron Man and Cap.
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>>566360223
This is mainly because they do small random nerfs instead of just addressing the problem.

Gambit's Ult has always been the problem. There is no reason it needs to boost speed, damage, AND give healing. Removing one of the three would have fxixed it but instead they just want to tweak numbers.

Elsa just needed to not have blue life on shit if she's going to be flying around like a fucking demon. Her mobility is her protection.

Daredevil also just didn't need constant blue life regeneration on top of his top dive ability damage to assassinate and also wallhacks to counter dive.

Phoenix is better now honestly over time but the bigger problem with poke in general is this game is that every poke hero also for some reason has an invincible escape tool and a CC stun of some kind. There is no reason for this.
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>>566360748
>the bigger problem with poke in general is this game is that every poke hero also for some reason has an invincible escape tool and a CC stun of some kind. There is no reason for this.
i believe this is a deliberate design choice to gimp dive
poke heroes get a free out so that diving them is a soft counter instead of a hard one
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Why was Season 7.0 good but Season 7.5 dogshit?
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>>566360467
I haven't seen any MCU films since Age of Snoozetron bored the hell out of me but I'm thinking about watching ALL of them, probably over the course of a few months.
Are there any that are so bad that I will regret this?
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>solo nightmare extreme is the fastest chrono token farm even if it feel slow (9m run = 1740 exp)
they didn't think of this, huh?
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>>566360985
7.0 = white fox pant suit ass
7.5 = black cat
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>>566360223
>This is causing so many problems because OP characters should be coming into the meta and leaving after a duration
this "le forced meta rotation per month" shit is retarded and actively causes more problems than it solves. nobody wants to deal with a patch where wanda or black widow are top tier, because those characters would be so unimaginably cancer to go up against and they would straight up kill the game while a daredevil/phoenix/psylocke/etc. meta is annoying but not nearly as damaging to the overall game. there are characters that just simply cannot and shouldn't be good ever
they are spinning it too far in the other direction though, gambit and phoenix should not be this dominant for this unbelievably long. it's way too much of a overcorrection in fear of changing up the game too much
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>>566361243
can you imagine if squirrel girl was top tier for a season?
the game would fucking die
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>>566360985
>overtuned dps release
>support buffs
>shit skins
>every mode is mid or dogshit
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>>566361243
>this "le forced meta rotation per month" shit is retarded and actively causes more problems than it solves.
There's legitimately nothing wrong with that, it gives every character a chance to shine. As it is; you only see the same 6 dps these days, and Invisible Woman, Cloak & Dagger are almost mandatory in 95% of matches unless by off chance you play against competent then of which you play White Fox or Ultron, and tanks? lol you only see Magneto, Groot, and Venom.
I'm bewildered that you could even think that the current game is even remotely better than a rotating patch to patch meta.
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>>566353396
Love and Thunder? Fucking awful
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>>566361814
I think what he's trying to say is that there are certain characters that absolutely should not be top tier, ever.
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>>566361814
virtually every support and tank is good and used pretty frequently in every rank where team comp even matters, which includes top 500 with the exception of like, adam warlock who is actually just bad all around right now
so outside of invis/gambit being retarded you are straight up wrong. you didn't even mention tankpool amongst the tanks who is still extremely good and played a ton after his nerfs
80% of the dps are dogshit and a lot of them need buffs, but that doesn't mean we should nerf characters with good design and an actual skill curve like black cat/star-lord/psylocke/elsa/etc. into uselessness to make room for total mouthbreather characters like moon knight and hawkeye to be S+ tier. that would be utterly fucking atrocious for the game
the goal just needs to be properly balanced so that nobody is obnoxiously running the game which they have achieved with psylocke/star but still need to do with daredevil/black cat/elsa/etc and buffs to non-cancer characters like blade/storm to give them a breathing chance
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>>566362471
Ragnarok had a lot of precursors of the worst stuff in L&T but otherwise yeah agreed.
>>566360467
Bale carried it hard and even he couldn’t save it. They must have pain a fortune to get him to agree to be in that shit.
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>>566360985
Duelist season breaks the matchmaking because everyone already wants to play duelist by default and the game is further pressuring people into the role with the new hero.
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>found a guy who hard throws every match when his main gets banned
>not even when his team does it just anyone bans it at all
>screenshot his playercard
>avoid him
>ban his main every time I vs him
>free elo
I wish it was always this easy
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>>566364441
Diamond?
Also, does he play BP?
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>>566364864
Low GM/high Diamond and yes
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>>566346775
>can't kill anything as psylock

This is a you problem.
Her m1 is better and has better falloff. She will regain cooldowns quicker on attacks now. Her Ult deals more damage and allows you to move faster. The only difference is the shurikens lost a slight bit of damage.
If you can't kill someone as Psylocke, you suck and if you blame the hero you're also a trashcan player that can't even realize or admit they suck.
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Spiderman and Iron Man are fabricated hero personas. Given the right set of skills and values anyone could become Spiderman but no one else could be Peter Parker
Thor is different because he has alternate persona he is the god from legend he is the son of Odin. Thor even had this whole character arc of him not being the god of the hammer but the god of thunder which is something inherent to him from birth
But anyone can also become Thor by picking up the hammer because that's where is his power comes from
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>>566362704
I play comp so i dont see certain characters ever
tankpool? he's been banned in the last 10-20 matches ive played
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>>566351175
>>Except his healing is subpar and a fucker always goes third support

Ultron is a much better healer than Zen. Zen's value is in his Ult and Discord, along with doing decent ranged damage. Never his healing.
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>rightfully call it after a bad first round
>hurr u dumb y surrender
>barely take second, they stall third and win
>guy who said it stops a full min b4 gets flagged as afk
>I end most kills and most finals
Wow….
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>>566351847
>Is Rogue just dogshit? Does she require Gambit team up just to be good otherwise pick another tank?
Like pretty much every other tank she has no sustain, but the Gambit teamup gives her sustain. So without it she sucks because she will blow all her cooldowns, get focused and die.

>>566353396
The only good parts in Love & Thunder are with Christian Bale as Gorr and you can just watch a clip compilation of that on youtube.
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>>566328535
hot...
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I’ll grind my way up to OAA, not because I want to be the best, but because Mantis has a 10% pickrate there and I’ll get to see her in my games more often
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>>566365318
It's truly the shitter character in the shitter rank. I wish I could press a button to kill all BP mains.
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>>566360985
>Why was Season 7.0 good but Season 7.5 dogshit?
We haven't had a good season since S2. It all went downhill from there and Zhiyong's inability to actually balance the game and change things up just makes it even worse.
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>>566362548
Oh no! Wanda would be good for one season! I'm sure that's worse than when you died in an instant to Black Panther and Hawkeye for all those months
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>110gb install size
>over 4gb patch size minimum every time
Is this a joke?
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>>566366562
Yeah
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>>566366574
chinese indie company, pls understand
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>>566366574
It's a game of chicken between the devs and the thirdies to see who will give up first.
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How to actually give tanks some team utility
>Cap: Make shield barrier bigger, soldier slam gives nearby allies some bonus hp.
>Thing: Remove aoe dmg resist effect, make allied Leap target receive 40% dmg resist. Doing m1 jabs gives himself and nearby allies small amounts of bonus hp
>Venom: Resilience also gives some bonus hp to nearby allies
>Emma: Make her barrier not have a crappy <> shape but a square shape with a diamond pattern in it, slightly increase the hp of it
>Groot: Make wil wall teamup baseline skill
>Thor: Lighting realm buffs allies with movespeed when they leave it, but in it they slowly heal hp
>Angela: Divine judgement zone gives allies bonus hp when they land attacks, not Angela's attacks
>Rogue: Make defensive stance bigger and last longer. Dashing through allies with brawl gives some bonus hp to allies, scaling with damage blocked.
>lower healing across the board for strategists
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>>566368048
>make everything harder to kill
NO
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>>566350148
Yeah moongirl is definitely gonna be sitting on his back
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is moongirl the daughter of moonman?
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>>566368449
>can't read
It reduces the healing to give tanks the ability to actually protect their allies.
Shit like Invisible Woman should not be sitting at over 180 hp/s healing just by spamming primary.
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>>566369127
Didn’t read after you said “bonus hp”
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>>566368838
>Yeah moongirl is definitely gonna be sitting on his back
Unlikely. Not only would you be able to shoot and kill a child, it would give the hero 2 weakpoints to shoot at and an even more awkward hitbox.
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>>566369263
You're right. Tanks should just be fat low damage dps heroes. Instead we should give healers absurd healing output and dps heroes the ability to give themselves constant bonus hp, that's better.
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>>566366574
No it's Unreal
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>>566368048
Rogue should be removed from vanguard she's a duelist plain and simple. Rework her kit to have less sustain and HP but more damage and she's good
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>>566369453
This has absolutely nothing to do with Unreal and everything to do with poor optimization and planning.
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>>566366730
At this point I think you're so mind-broken by their dogshit balance that you're just being incredibly retarded on purpose.
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>>566366562
>a CND braindead tier dps being actually good would be worse than shitter checks that only noobs die to
Yes that is literally the entire point
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>>566369340
>>566370426
I love Luna
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>if I go tank we don't have enough healing
>if I go heal we don't have a good tank
>either way our dps are getting diffed
what do?
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>>566366562
Sounds pretty aids yeah
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>>566370558
Deadpool
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>>566365586
cool
has no relevance to my point though
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>>566370558
switch to namor and start flanking healers
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Are you ready to apologize to Zhiyong when he fixes the game with a fire patch next season?
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>>566371108
can't fix what isn't broken!
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is beast going to be tank or healer?
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>>566370441
Oh cool so we're doing this now?
Dying in one second was not fun, the only thing netease did to alleviate this issue was increasing HP across the board for all the squishes. The fact that good players spend their 3 team bans not formulating some sort of strategy that benefits their comp but banning long standing overpowered characters for months on end is just ridiculous. I'm not even advocating for characters to get buffed, but I think the point I'm trying make is Gambit, Elsa, Daredevil, and Phoenix should have already been nerfed into the ground to make room for the newer characters and give older characters some breathing room to actually exist.
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>the enemy team has 5 ranged heroes and a BP
>our tank goes Thing
>doesn't focus the BP
>just feeds on the frontline
This fucking playerbase isn't sentient
They programmed to go thing in case of BP but don't have the mental awareness to actually do the thing they swapped for
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>>566337636
>>566339156
and Venom!
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>>566371335
Another shitty dive tank with no sustain and team utility, of course.
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>>566371108
not till he adds one of my wives.
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>>566371335
support/brawler (cancer)
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what's the point of this game when 3 people are throwing the match every single game I'm quitting this shit
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>>566373498
I'm actually trying when I queue into competitive mode and I have to listen to some shithead dps player complain all game about how his team is shit and plaiyng and we should forfeit after 1 round that went 99%-100% and how he's better than everyone else but his poor spiderman shoulders can't carry us all
Nah fuck that I'm leaving those games now I don't care if I get banned
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The game desperately needs more PvP modes. The speed at which the game becomes stale is crazy.
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>>566373920
18v18 is the future
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>>566373920
It needs less modes specifically domination should be removed
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>>566374170
It's not Domination, it's King of the Hill. Domination is taking and holding multiple points at once.
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>>566374238
Thank you for your feedback I forwarded your naming suggestions to NetEase they should fix this issue at their earliest convenience
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>>566373920
we NEED an item shop to add dynamic, procedural elements to each match.
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this game is done if they don't cut the size of the game in the next 7 months
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>>566373920
Capture the Flag on that Resource Rumble map.
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>>566374806
>mode devolves into which spidey player is the fastest
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>>566375001
Dashes, portals and/or movement abilities make you drop the flag. Juggernaut will eventually become the MVP of that mode because of his CC-immunity during running
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https://files.catbox.moe/ewmswl.jpg
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>>566375151
Dashes, portals and/or movement abilities shouldn't make you drop the flag. Make the map bigger to accommodate crazy plays, encourage going fast shazbot
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if you hide your name/profile, you're gay
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>>566376795
>We get the inevitable Nightcrawler release
>He decides matches within the starting minute by simply poofing to the flag and back
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if you are any shade of brown, your opinion doesn't matter
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>>566377117
brown is just dark orange
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ok, another day of blue token grind and being a sexist manace in ranked
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I think Luna Snow has become my most cummed-to video game character.
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>>566377117
based
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hahaha
a dinosaur will save this game
imagine that
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Can Thor's ult please get a buff? It's fucking bullshit that it's one of the hardest ults to land and it won't even one-shot 250HP characters
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>>566378815
Instead of thinking about how bad of an ult it is, think of it as thor just letting it fucking rip from his ass. Straight fart. That's why it doesn't kill. That way you can make the best out of a shitty ult
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>>566378815
>sweaty thor player thinks he needs a buff
kek
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>can't instantly leave a match when it's over

What supreme subhuman retard thought this was a good idea.
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>>566378815
after reed's gets a buff
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>>566379094
>you need to roll in the shame of losing a game
those devs are sadists
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>>566379061
He's D tier give our poor buy a buff please
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>>566379142
As am I so tough titties for them
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>>566346456
its crashing alot for some reason this season
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>>566348331
>>566347985
damn 2/2/2 has more losses than games played compared to the other comps..that shit is not reliable at all
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>>566369295
Not really. They could easily give her some kind of shield covering her up. She’s already pretty small so hitbox isn’t really a big deal especially when DD himself is also pretty small.
>>566369453
Not in this case it isn’t.
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>>566370270
cringe giant shit
>>566374759
they need to take a month off (minimum) from all the hero additions to fix that shit i wonder how long they’re going to let it fester
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>>566374170
never got why everyone thinks its time to go dps tard on these maps when you need more healing than ever to hold these cancerous points
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>>566380313
you're one of those nigs that dont understand per capita, huh?
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>>566373920
Exactly. Then you remember they’re actually ‘hard at work’ making more of the asymmetrical pve modes no one likes…
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>>566348331
Triple supp stats are biased because it's the format losers jump to when they're losing to try to salvage their game when their loss is already a bygone conclusion.
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>>566380659
yeah, but it's still busted if bad players can play it and win
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>>566380607
1/3/2 is only a few points behind with less than a quarter of games played, seems 2/2/2 is the peni of marvel rivals team comp it just abuses bad teams
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>>566377117
Rare good Luna post
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>>566378815
>Can Thor's ult please get a buff?

Sure, if he gets reworked to a Strategist.
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>>566377117
Good God, brush your fucking teeth troona
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Now that my glorious tenacity system fixed all your crowd control complaints, I will now buff poke and nerf all tanks because we're hearing complaints that tanks are too good now and we can't have that. Poke needs to counter everything.
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>>566378815
Game needs more ults like Thor’s, and less ults like Starlord’s
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triple support will never not be a crutch comp
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>die
>spectating my teammate who is playing punisher
>notice his crosshair isn't anywhere close to the enemy but is still getting hitmarkers
>wtf maybe it's ping but report him just to be sure
>get this
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>>566381685
Zased, so zased
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>>566379105
They was so obsessed with making him into luffy
they didnt even think how it would work in a shooter
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>somehow the marvel rvials community has convinced themselves that luna snow is overpowered and doesn't take skill
>keep getting my games thrown by lunas who do less dmg than healbot C&Ds
Epic. Epic. Simply epic. Just because Eternity players can dominte lobbies with Luna doesn't mean YOU have what it takes, shitter.
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>>566383925
luna is very strong, but she requires consistent precision ,so she filters 80% of support mains
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>>566383925
I feel like this applies to WF now more than ever, I keep getting the shittiest WF players known to man.
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>>566383925
>luna snow is overpowered and doesn't take skill
she is when you dont need to have crosshair over the head to get headshots
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>>566385171
huh?
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>>566385128
streamers rules this games character bias so hard
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I'm officially burned out at this point. This week will make or break the game for me, but I honestly have no idea how season 8 is supposed to go because they're either leading with a literal who brawl vanguard (Devil Dino) or a potentially busted poke duelist (Cyclops), and we already have way too many of those. Also I don't think I want another dps character season this soon after Elsa and Black Cat.
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>>566386820
Yet you will be here next week saying the same thing
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>>566386820
at times of great uncertainty like this, i am soothed by the knowledge that at least gambit will still be permaban status and at least half the roster will remain unplayable. zhiyong will be busy tinkering with tenacity values for the next year to look busy to his boss
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>>566387282
her fingers are long, i like that
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>>566387282
yeah, give ethots more exposure
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im just gonna throw games until i get easier matches, fuck this matchmaking expecting me to carry 0 elim scarlet witch players
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>>566381562
Can I have a button to press, please?
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>>566387619
you're on timeout for being a cuck, begone.
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>>566387282
the spray on jumpsuit isnt even the right color...
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>>566387724
I just want a button to press...
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>>566376704
Fuck yeah
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>>566387282
Looks artificial and low effort as fuck. Still bvilt for Big Peter Cock.
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>>566370270
why is there a shit under her wtf
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>>566388037
>Looks artificial
???
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>>566388081
thats magick
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>>566388113
You know. Plastic-y. Soulless.
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>>566388549
that's because she looks like a hag and the only way for her to get simps is to put on makeup and use filters
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>>566371335
Before they release Black Cat, I figured he’s be a tank that played similarly to how her basic kit plays. Constant double jumping, a vertical wall run, two dashes that pierce through enemies, and a temporary enhanced claw attack. Basically a brawl tank with an emphasis on his ability. While other brawl tanks hold their ground, he jumps around like a monkey. But now I don’t know.
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>>566371335
lab coat hank would be an instabuy for me
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>>566387938
Well you have right click
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>>566371335
Probably healer because he's one of those characters that could easily be adapted into support without anyone batting an eye and those are few and far between
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just won a game i was trying to throw, matchmaker must be confused as fuck
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>>566373920
1) It doesn’t because all new game modes for this trash genre are gimmick modes because you can only make so many game modes that revolve around a single hill. The best overwatch 2 could come up with for a new non-arcade gamemode is a meme MOBA inspired mode that revolves around perks, and it only features a few of the cast of characters because they basically have to build a new game from scratch for it.
2) They should just bite the bullet and copy push from OW already. The devs are only at their best when they’re copying overwatch and refining it.
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>>566388627
she doesnt look like a hag what are you on about
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>>566374170
The most filtered take ever expressed about this game
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>>566389443
if you use makeup and filters, you look like a hag, simple as
now go cry, roastie
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>>566389556
insane levels of self report
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>>566389009
And I always will.
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>>566389678
he needs to put a choke on his minigun
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>>566389678
>picrel
Those are the nerfs that Rocket mains have been crying about? What the fuck? I remember when they reduced Loki’s clone healing and damage by like 40% and you never hear Loki players talk about that.
Are furries just fragile faggots or something?
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>>566389678
I remember when I used to solo heal as this little dude, making it my mission to fend off divers on my own, while keeping pace with my own divers. But he just can’t do it anymore. I have more success with healpool.
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>>566390064
>Are furries just fragile faggots
Yes
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>>566390064
Rocket used to be the most braindead character in the game bar none, so rocket players cant handle such minor changes.
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>>566390064
You don’t hear me complain about Loki because he was gutted seasons ago and I’ve legitimately given up on him. No sense yelling at brick wall. Haven’t played him since the his damaged was nerfed twice in a row. Also if you can’t see how losing 2 metres on your dash and almost doubling its cooldown aren’t huge nerfs, then you are l”a retard.
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>>566390064
>two legs
>chop one off

cmon man whats the big deal you can still crawl around
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>>566390616
>>566390554
Babies.
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Spider-man needs to be buffed. He's the only melee character in the game with no ability to self shield or overheal.
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>>566390846
He’s also the only character where his mobility is high enough to make escaping from a failed dive a realistic option
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>>566390353
>>566390260
>>566390064
>20% reduction to his speed
>20% reduction to his dash distance
>167% increase to his mobility cooldown (and his only ability)
>not huge nerfs
yeah ok. let’s apply it to your favourite character and see how well they fare.
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>>566389638
must feel nice to be a girl, privilege from birth just because you have bobs and vagene
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>>566390064
Its the equivalent of sue double jump getting 50%
cd added and her shield getting a 30% size reduction with 25 startup frames
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>>566390846
spider-man has the most broken mobility of any character in a hero shooter ever made. so you want this faggot to be able to zip around the map at mach 5, approach from any angle, pull people off the map from yards away, AND want overheal?
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>>566390064
I feel like you've made this exact same seethe post before and got dunked on.
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>>566390846
If you’re dying as Spider-Man more than 3 times in a match, then you aren’t a good Spider-Man. He’s like Cap. You can reach a health pack in 3 seconds or less. Learn to manage your health bar and how to escape a losing fight.
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>>566390692
Says the fag complaining that old rocket needed nerfs
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>>566390353
Your A to B logic is a trainwreck.
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>>566357063
It's both Duelist and Strategists and its back-to-back with Vanguards being sandwiched in between the poor balancing decisions regarding those two.
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>>566390846
Not anymore he has been grinded down too much
he would be a top ban if he had the old venom teamup right now
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>>566366574
You can apparently reduce the size to 75 GB by deleting optional files in a folder. The guide is on steam.
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>>566368048
tl;dr

Stop giving the tools tanks should have to dps and supports. But that will never happen because Net Ease is retarded. The reason healing in this game is so broken is because tanks in general have so little self-sustain.
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>>566371006
hello elboygian
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>>566388982
Better give us a lab coat Bruce if that happens
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>>566391604
Strategists are the way they are because of Duelists. Strategists are currently the way they are specifically because shit like Daredevil and other dive characters like DP/Magik/SM that can delete 250 HP characters before they can even react to taking damage. The TTK in this is its biggest design flaw. You're telling me people are completely fine with characters like the ones mentioned above, and lets throw in Black Cat, being able to 100 to 0 supports without literally any aiming ability? Melee heroes either need be focused on sustain or damage, not both. Until Duelists are dealt with Strategists will stay this strong. People crying about "muh no death circle" but don't think about why we need those ults: spoiler alert it's because of Duelist ults. Weakening Strategists without weakening Duelists is the most retard opinion any person can have, and that doesn't even consider how Vanguards would be affected by weaker Strategists.
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>get MVP
>don't get a single thumbs-up
hmph! ingrates!
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madamn web map when?
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>>566381673
It was always a crutch against dive.
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>>566383925
The MR community is a brainless bandwagon community that will latch on to whatever latest tiktok or youtube shorts video tells them is totally overpowered tm. Almost no MR player can take a step back, analyze something and think for themselves.
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>>566387168
>Yet you will be here next week saying the same thing
For me unironically no, since OW is getting mid season patch with more events. The chinks have one more shot to keep me around next season.
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they should put spawn in the game as a vanguard
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>>566392310
what a fag you are
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>>566387282
Why are you letting your daughter dress like this, anon.

>>566390064
>Those are the nerfs that Rocket mains have been crying about?
Rocket mains are the Mercy mains for Rivals and just as mentally ill. Always best to ignore them.
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>>566392157
>The TTK in this is its biggest design flaw.
to be fair the low TTK is the main reason why this game doesnt feel as tedious and stale as overwatch. like in overwatch, you have such limited ability to burst people down or take off angles that supports can always just negate what the DPS are doing, unless they make a horrible mistake. the end goal of blizzard balancing and design is that only the supports and tank really dictate what is happening, and the DPS are kinda just waiting for them to make mistakes. though idk what overwatch is like now that they've tried to curb healing a lot

still i'd argue that the marvel rivals approach is the only way healing can actually coexist with shooting in a game like this. you can actually play aggressively and make plays in this game. and supports can also shine against high burst damage by having good awareness and heal by prediction rather than reaction (i know, this is not a skill any healer below celestial would know about). honestly even with zhiyong literally being functionally asleep at the wheel, the game is still more functional than overwatch has ever been in its history
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>>566392157
>>566393072
also i will categorically say that the top 5 or so supports are the strongest heroes in the game still, it just happens that anyone who plays them is just bad. i have some support mains as friends and it hurts to watch them play, since they just can't do really basic shit like
>hold down m1 on a hero that is about to take a shit ton of damage, BEFORE that happens
or
>black panther is not on my screen? hes probably about to dive, listen for sounds
like they just completely lack object permanence and understanding of causality. and then you listen to them complain and they think that the game is not balanced well simply because they can't 1v1 the guy who is like twice their skill level.

if you look at the profile of many high rank dps/fill players, they almost always have higher winrate on strategist despite hating the role. surefour's profile for example (chopped unc dps player from overwatch days)
https://tracker.gg/marvel-rivals/profile/ign/Tisumi/overview
imagine the same with the roles reversed. imagine a CnD main switching over to black panther to fill and stomping the match real quick. it's laughable to even think about. good lord supportoids are SHIT at the game
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>>566369052
Yes. Like all racists, he can't resist black pussy.
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>>566392579
it's a crutch against everything
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>>566390846
PLEASE buff spider-man
PLEASE he NEEDS it
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>>566392790
gross
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>>566394556
umm wtf is krystal doing there
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>>566343761
Most cursed image award
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>>566395103
why do you know what that shit's name is?
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>>566395210
>he’s never played Half-Life 2
ngmi
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>>566395210
fake gamer alert
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im pretty sad about the fact that we will never again be able to speak freely on any game
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Please, please, PLEASE you fucking supportsissies!
LEARN HOW TO WALK BACKWARD
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>>566390692
I put those in women.
>>566394041
True.
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>>566371335
Healer makes more sense given his lab rat background, but things making sense isn’t a prerequisite for the Chinese these days.
>>566376213
Weird looking legs.
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>>566397008
no
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>>566351427
>>566368838
You two are fantastically and obviously wrong. Moon girl has not even been mentioned, she's a kid and Netease doesn't gaf about DEI so the only black girl you're getting is Storm because she's actually popular.
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>>566397857
Luna mains owe me hugs
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>>566398334
luna mains are all men
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>>566398438
men in pretty dresses <3
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>>566389678
>>566371108
Please never stop making these
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>>566398124
That would be a valid point if it wasn’t for the fact that Disney is obviously stepping in and wringing their arm on certain things like almost certainly forcing them to make the recent gigaslop asymmetrical mode. I won’t say it’s impossible either way but this could be something they insist on too.
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>>566393013
Stop talking to yourself.
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>>566398438
Feminine bros need hugs too
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>>566399051
Disney is not going to force them to add a shootable child. If Moon Girl appears it will be as a voiceover, plus maybe a cameo in the loading screen for the new map.
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is there a shrug emoji?
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should i use a voicechanger and start calling out my targets? i would have Voice Receive volume at zero of course cause i don't wanna hear other ppl
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>>566399708
voicechangers are for faggots
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>>566399698
I don’t know about shrugs in particular but there are a bunch of question mark ones which work about as well
Also holy shit I never realized so many emojis were straight up references to other stuff until I browsed the list on rivalskins, pic unrelated
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>>566400818
i still can't believe they put picrel in the game
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>1000 ping in a comp match

God I hate New Orleans internet.
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>>566401197
guh...
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>>566399507
Who says she needs to be shootable? Make it so she has a forcefield around her or teleports away when DD ‘dies’. There’s ways to include her on screen if they really want/have to. I don’t want it, but they exist.
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How do I fix random disconnections in this shit game? I have no issue with any other game, but I'd get a DC ever 2-3 games here.
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Moon Girl is 100% going to be IN, as to give DevD extra abilities and voicelines
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>>566405717
yeah she'll probably be on his back with some gadget for their primary fire
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>>566406584
rape correction needed
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>>566350146
I ulted that bitch with Namor ult. The wale was behind her back but she haven't lost half hp nor she was stunned because she raised her dumb wall.
I
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>>566392157
>>566393072
This game doesnt not have low TTK or some extremely high damage, the damage is lower than OW and that game has both lower healing and built in anti-heal.
People really need to stop saying this factually wrong shit.
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>Sweating in QP
Can't imagine a more pathetic existence
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>>566407374
>t. has never seen a BP, DD, Hela, Punisher, Hawkeye, or tanks who know their combos
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>>566407374
just completely disingenuous and false. overwatch has only ever had daredevil, black cat or panther level threats for extremely short periods of time, if ever. the blizzard balance team is very clear that no dps should be able to delete a squishy without a support hero (even themselves) having say in it. the only hero that defies this notion is widowmaker, and she isn't a dive hero
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>>566392157
>Duelist ults

all the duelist ult that do massive damage or ohko are telegraphed as fuck
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>>566407550
The "sweats" you're losing to are actually playing casually on a character they don't know how to play. They aren't tryharding, you're just bad.
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>>566408221
everyone but elsa's
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>>566407550
>Stomping casuals hard with my stack in QP


never been so erect in my life
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>>566407826
We've been over this many times. % wise the healing output of healers in MR is vastly higher while not being tied to cooldowns except for Adam and Mantis.
Damage in OW is higher, with many actual one shot things, from Rein charge to Widow and Hanzo headshots, with overall higher damage.
And the passive antiheal for all heroes in OW is just a fact, on top of the 100% antiheal OW also has, while there is barely any antiheal in MR and the little there is are tied to shitty heroes like Blade and lasts a few seconds.
Invis holding down primary heals over 180 hp/s, a lot of heroes can't even kill whoever she is healing even if they blow everything they have, sometimes not even 2 heroes can do it. This is not the case in other games like OW or Paladins.
So yes anyone that claims the damage is absurdly high in MR and the astronomically high healing is justified or not higher thani n other games is just straight up wrong.
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>>566408254
No they're not cause they're always sub-diamond
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>>566392157
The real reason is the damage of poke characters like Elsa, Phoenix, Luna, Hela, Namor, Winter Soldier, Hawkeye, etc. Daredevil and Black Panther are like the the only divers with low ttk. Daredevil and Black Panther have more counterplay and are easier to deal with than poke. The counter to poke is to out poke the opponent's poke.
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>>566407550
why do you care about losing or what people are doing if you're not sweating yourself?
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>>566408068
see >>566408513

Even a tank like Rein alone disproves that shit, with his charge and being able to basically 2 tap melee attack non-tanks. If that shit was in MR the players would be frothing at the mouth calling it overpowered bullshit.
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I think the healing and damage are both too high
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>>566408941
so go play overwatch
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Zihyong will announce EOS on Tuesday
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healing being strong is good
the problem is there's no antiheal
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>>566409352
>Zihyong will announce EOS on Tuesday

He will be too busy to even show up on the dev vision, he's away in Thailand fucking cheap whores again.
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>Jeff sees me (iron man) in overdrive and trying to kill a scarlet witch
>Decides to aim at scarlet witch instead of healing me
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>>566409596
people like that should be shot
when i play support and my other support does that instead of healing me, i just start trolling
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>>566408513
i thought we went over this

the healing per second being higher in marvel rivals LITERALLY does not MATTER because the game is designed differently. the actual cause of pickoffs is a hero targeting another hero and bursting them down before any healer can react and save them. it is easier to get picks in marvel rivals because you can off angle, flank, dive, juke and do whatever the fuck to your heart's content. if a duelist isn't loaded with mobility tools, then they have tons of overshield that they can use to aggressively pressure. if you are targeting someone who is being invis woman m1'd, then no shit you aren't going to kill them, but that's when you switch to targeting the hero behind invis woman to get a kill.

overwatch is designed around the idea that kills don't happen by surprise. everyone stands in line formation like it's the napoleonic wars. there's no moon knight, phoenix, black cat or even squirrel girl to force players to disperse. you can't off angle because the maps aren't designed for it and/or heroes are much more limited regarding it (sombra and genji tickle at medium range or farther) and if you try to pressure too aggressively then a tank slams your ass and you die. so you can't really effectively burst anyone down as a dps, except when healers or the tank are really retarded. the way kills happen in overwatch is largely down to grinding down targets through healing, using broken cooldowns like bionade to force other broken cooldowns like suzu so that you can use another broken cooldown to kill the enemy. no real agency for individual players because it comes down to gay ass simon says cooldown combat

>>566408724
yeah i remember all the times i played overwatch 2 and the enemy reinhardt just surprise flanked and massacred through the enemy backline with his charge lol. it's just the same as every other broken tank cooldown, just a telegraphed button that forces the enemy team to press their buttons
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>>566408941
I agree
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>>566409596
when i fill in as luna, i often just give up on pocketing whoever retard can't hit their shots and click down his target myself lol
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>>566409554
ah yes because having the entire game be balanced around Ana was great design, lets copy that
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>>566410218
this
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>>566409781
>the healing per second being higher in marvel rivals LITERALLY does not MATTER because the game is designed differently. the actual cause of pickoffs is a hero targeting another hero and bursting them down before any healer can react and save them. it is easier to get picks in marvel rivals because you can off angle, flank, dive, juke and do whatever the fuck to your heart's content. if a duelist isn't loaded with mobility tools, then they have tons of overshield that they can use to aggressively pressure. if you are targeting someone who is being invis woman m1'd, then no shit you aren't going to kill them, but that's when you switch to targeting the hero behind invis woman to get a kill.

The primary differences are
>way higher healing and with no cooldown
>barely any antiheal
>lower damage
>way more (but short) cc across the board
>way more mobility across the board
It's much easier for a MR support to deal with dives than in say OW. They even gave Adam 2 flight moves.

Anyway I'm off to do stuff, but regardless you're wrong and I've gone over this many times. MR players are ignorant, not very bright and never learn.
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>>566377017
Overwatch solve this problem by macking the chars drop the flag when they use their movements skill.
The real problem would be Strange's portals.
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>>566409276
Why would I play Rivals except gay and without Mister Fantastic though
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>>566410287
truth nuke, ana and the addition of anti-heal to overwatch was truly like one of the biggest design blunders of all time. they completely misidentified the core problem

im glad that zhiyong is largely so hands off that he isn't making the same classic design mistakes blizzard did. this game would become absolutely terrible if they took even like half the player feedback at face value
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>>566410552
>Overwatch solve this problem by macking the chars drop the flag when they use their movements skill.
Yeah that's a shit solution, as expect of the gay retards working for Blizzard
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>>566398124
>Netease doesn't gaf about DEI
Factually untrue. They do take that shit into consideration. It's why we're getting latino hood.
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>>566406584
>>566407550
Sex is needed
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>>566410737
it has lower numbers
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>>566410501
it is so fucking funny that you look at a game where you look at a 250 hp fridge that waddles around and gets 2 tapped by any duelist hero on cooldown and you say he is better at fending off dives because "he has 2 flight moves". it's like you don't play the game at all
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>>566410287
i haven't played overwatch since 2017 and can't comment on this
all i know is i like that healing is strong but acknowledge it can sometimes be hard to break a stalemate, and also that the only time i ever think about antiheal is when there's a blade on the other team (and blade sucks so it doesn't matter)
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Why cant you gift the battle pass?
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>>566409781
>overwatch is designed around the idea that kills don't happen by surprise. everyone stands in line formation like it's the napoleonic wars
Sounds unbelievably gay, how is that fun?
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>>566412095
there is a reason overwatch died
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why is everyone filtered by peni suddenly?
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>>566412095
>>566412142
i think anyone who has ever played overwatch as a dps can sense that the gameplay is just really fucking unfun in a way they couldn't nail down. i am just verbalizing the core issue with the game that basically every other issue stems from, including the toxicity. blizzard devoted a lot of time towards thought policing the players for being frustrated rather than addressing the core cause of the frustration, which is being unable to make the game respond to your actions
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>>566413051
>suddenly
Shitters have been whining about her literally forever
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>>566409781
>the way kills happen in overwatch is largely down to grinding down targets through healing, using broken cooldowns like bionade to force other broken cooldowns like suzu so that you can use another broken cooldown to kill the enemy. no real agency for individual players because it comes down to gay ass simon says cooldown combat
i play fighting games and we often get discourse from new players about how unreactable stuff is "just guessing" and should be removed
but fighting game players and devs alike understood a long time ago that if there is no situation where you can just get raped with no warning then nothing cool or interesting will ever happen and it's just a battle to see who falls asleep from boredom first
there has to be shit where you have a DSP moment and say "wtf there was nothing i could do!" or else the game will just be a neverending stalemate where taking risks is always suboptimal
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>>566413051
games playerbase skill level is in the toilet
I had a ironfist just feedin me finals trying to punch the nest
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>>566413414
>but fighting game players and devs alike understood a long time ago that if there is no situation where you can just get raped with no warning then nothing cool or interesting will ever happen and it's just a battle to see who falls asleep from boredom first
yes lol

For Honor is an example of what happens if you design a "fighting game" like that anyway. the devs had no understanding of fighting games so they made everything reactable. the end result was 2 people just staring at each other for 3 minutes and the player who got bored first and tried to attack would get parried on reaction and destroyed. i think it took them like 6 years to eventually sort of fix it, which was just adding more and more unreactable shit until they had reinvented like a crappy but classic fighting game again
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>>566410760
Shit or not, how would you balance a situation where the flag is on spiderman's hands?
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>>566407374
if psylocke was in overwatch she'd be absurdly broken because of her heavy burst damage on top of all her basic strengths while in this game she's just good
inversely genji would be absolute garbage in this game because he's focused moreso on cleanup which psy is already amongst the best at
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>>566415917
>give the enemy team a Spiderman that can move at equal speed
>give the enemy team a Strange that can move even faster by using his portal but only once in a long ass cooldown
>build defender comps around the flag using Namor and Thing
The way to balance high speed gameplay is to issue skill challenges, not to nerf the most fun playstyles to accommodate shitters
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>>566410819
Not that anon and true, I never cared for Hood (Who would claim to have this guy in a top 20 fav chars?) so I'm biased but this time having a younger latino Hood with that hairstyle made his character design a BIT less boring, since his original design was generic white guy with, boots, a red hood and two guns.
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I'm surprised they aren't focusing on adding more healers and tanks

>Tanks
>Juggernaut
>Collosus
>Cable
>Sentinel
>Sandman
>Baymax
>MODOK
>Mandarin

>Healers
>Electro
>Mysterio
Can't really come up with more healers
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>>566416487
if you allow movement abilities in CTF then you will render over half the roster completely nonviable because none of the characters in this game are designed with that game mode in mind
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Magneto bros, Temporal Tyrant or Seat of Autumn?
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>>566416904
>then you will render over half the roster completely nonviable
So just like competitive mode?
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>>566413051
non-retard peni players put nests in hard spots, peni can extend the effective range of her nests by putting down more cyberwebs. no one wants to play squirrel girl to destroy nests.
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Ass character for an ass game, get Marvel's butt girl in!!
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>>566387282
>Almost 30
Gross
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>>566417289
black cat already has a massive ass, cant imagine they can top that
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>>566416487
None of the things you mentioned can stop a spiderman with the flag in hand.
Even the other spiderman Who love at the same speed can stop his counterpart.
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>>566417182
>no one wants to play squirrel girl
i wish this was true in my rank (dia) but we have tons of squirrel girls
they don't shoot nests though
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>>566416756
I really don't get it because numbers plummet hard every duelist season no matter how popular the character is.
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>>566417446
*Who move
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>>566413051
Its not that Peni herself is hard to deal with but dealing with her and her team also body blocking her nests and also getting shields and health regen on top of that. Then yea its fucking aids to deal with it on specific maps. No one wants to play SG cause of the SG hate campaign.
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>>566416756
Add Shuma-Gorath as a tank and make the main body controllable as a floating mass, the tentacles auto-latch onto the environment while you move with wall and ceiling climb enabled.
His body mass should have a massive damage reduction like 30-40% but his large ass eyeball counts as a critical hitbox making him an aim-challenge tank to play against
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>>566417289
I'll need more evidence of this woman's butt
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>>566416756
>sneaking in Baymax
lole. As for other possible supports,
>Nico
Abilities are low CD but cost HP
>Bishop
Dealing damage converts it into healing
>Red Skull
Buff teammates by shouting commands at them
>Enchantress
Give her a ton of taunts
>Jubilee
Not sure how they could make her unique but she’s almost certainly going to be an m1 healer
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>>566414058
>would
I agree just to a certain point. It's ok not having a boring gameplay where nothing is strong but lately fighting games took the complete opposite path were every char is busted with the mantra " if every char is OP none is OP" except that if every pg is OP you just hate fight every fighter in the roster and every match is hoping you can spam your BS before your enemy can do the same with his BS.
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>>566416756
Why bother adding tanks when
A: No one plays the role
B: They're all delibrately underpowered because only duelists get to run lobbies and healers get to have fun while being mechanically impotent
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>>566418668
>except that if every pg is OP you just hate fight every fighter in the roster and every match is hoping you can spam your BS before your enemy can do the same with his BS.
that's called an anime game and it fucking rocks
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>>566418684
no one plays the role because of your second point. also the tank tax in ranked where they are literally penalized for playing tank because "performance based" points are literally just based on kills and deaths.
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>>566417020
Temporale Tyrant, just because the sword in this skin is not and awful tube.
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>Everyone agrees that Mysterio should be a support
>Nobody actually knows what they could do to make him one
I know that the ‘Support Mysterio’ idea probably came from Loki’s usage of clones and shit but genuinely what could they do besides just making him Loki 2
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Strange melee should stun for 1 sec on direct contact.
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>>566417771
It's funny how everyone hate Squirrel Girl for the "lucky shots" but at the same time you can make her life impossible with a flier or a diver because doing precise shoots with her at short distance or in air Is difficult.
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And even after thai, that worthless whore Fox got MVP
https://files.catbox.moe/z4z559.mp4
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>>566418337
Imho Forge and Cypher can be good supports too predatong Illari's and Sombra's kit.
Elixir is another mutie born to be a support
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>>566418949
>the tank tax in ranked where they are literally penalized for playing tank because "performance based" points are literally just based on kills and deaths.
I had this a lot. When I am solo tanking on Strange, people often flame me for not doing enough damage / getting kills.
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>>566417957
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>>566419374
Oh we asking for buffs? Change mag’s right click from a push to a pull. He’s the master of magnetism, but none of his moves feels particularly magnetic. And his right click pushing fucks him sometimes
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>>566417020
Seat of Autumn is the sexiest until they let us toggle his cape off his base
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>>566417289
Only if she's pregnant
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>>566420453
guh
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>>566416617
>white guy with guns = boring
>latinx with guns = not boring
ok buddy
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>>566411626
Same reason as to why you can't gift skins
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>>566416756
… But they are doing that. Not as fast as ideally possible but doing it.
>healer
>Electro
Stop.
>>566417943
Shuma isn’t happening dude he’s in licensing hell.
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>>566422876
>Shuma isn’t happening dude he’s in licensing hell.
Shit sucks he would be more interesting than another big guy brawling with fists
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>>566423237
Hey, Juggernaut is a respectable Vanguard choice, you hear me!
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>>566423352
How so? He can't do anything different from Hulk, The Thing or even Colossus.
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>>566423524
He runs better than The Thing but jumps worse than Cap making him the perfect throwpick
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Juggs' gotcha!
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>>566422520
What I really hope they change is his outfit, like this dude wears a tucked in collared shirt and some pants, he looks like a grocery store assistant manager not a villain
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>>566416756
I can think of 20 characters who can fit either archetype without a major stretch and are decently popular. I just don't know how to make an unique kit for them.
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>>566399051
If Disney was still pushing Moon girl they wouldn't have cancelled her show after 2 seasons.
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>>566423524
You can easily juice him up with his Cyttorak gimmick. Forcefields, pins, cone punch that grounds people ahead of you instead of a circle around you, etc etc.
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Man Hulk's next skin better be really fucking good considering we had to wait over half a year to get one.
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>>566422696
You can but you have to use lattice to gift.
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>>566425664
Didn't the datamine show he's getting a recolor?
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>>566425664
It’s a recolor
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>>566425664
It’s red hulk
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>gambit is struggling to heal anyone
>tell him he doesn't need to be gambit, I don't need the teamup, and to swap off
>he spends the remainder of the match yelling in chat
Seriously, what the hell happened to strategists. They're all like this, they don't heal, they don't swap, they don't prioritize, and then when you give them constructive criticism all of a sudden everyone else is the problem.
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>>566427632
how do you struggle healing with a character with such a wide primary
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>>566427632
what server?
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>>566420453
Same two images every time get more material already. Frank cho didn't do art for nothing.
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>>566430709
this! he was painstaking modeling her ass with every stroke
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>>566430709
good post. anyone truly committed to their waifu-pick should have at least fifty images of her in a folder.
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>>566424269
Maybe if they completely discontinued her comics and the character in general I could believe that. It costs them nothing to slip Netease a notice saying “put moon girl in next”.
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Add White Tiger to Rivals
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>>566431031
Magik is so hot bros
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>>566433130
pumping....
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>>566431827
if they add another "character with claws" and it isn't X-23, i'm actually gonna lose it.
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>>566433961
they are never going to add her because she is literally just wolverine again
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>>566433130
guhhhhhhh
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>There are people who genuinely hope Cyclops shoots shields out of his eyes
>These are the same people who were complaining about Black Cat having a portal this season
people are so FUCKING retarded it angers me
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Every weekend is worse than the last, too many subhumans hop on to play their favorite character and then complain about heals when they try to 1v6 or go off on side quests.
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>>566434109
then they shouldn't add anymore characters with "claws" as their primary attack.
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>>566434963
>These are the same people who were complaining about Black Cat having a portal this season
no they're not. those people are the ones who thought Black Cat should be a Vanguard who shapeshifted into a werecat because of one comic run. the people who are complaining about her GTA weapon wheel of spells are a third group.
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black cat is so fucking cancer it's insane
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you really need to hijack dps when you have 2 retards that dont switch from their otps or whatever when they're doing bad
too bad these exact retards are uncarryable
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>>566422520
Yes. The design was so boring that even a racial stereotype at least have something
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>>566433961
Tank Darkhawk would be good
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>>566431827
Rather Tigra personally.
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>>566431827
For Peter only
>>566434109
True enough
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>>566437282
It’s boring either way dummy. The character is such a dud conceptually they’d have to alter him significantly beyond what he is now than just a lazy race swap.
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>queue comp
>team instalocks 4 dps
>lock a 5th one
>not one but TWO faggots on my team start going on about how I'm hardstuck gold and their main accounts are so much higher or whatever (they also instalocked dps) then they proceed to go afk and throw
holy fuck there are SO many planet-sized ego retards "smurfing" 2 ranks below their main in this game and getting destroyed, it's actually kind of insane
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>>566438604
They already have. He has another new origin for the cloak now being from oblivion instead mephisto or dormammu
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2 days until chuds get BTFOD
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>>566437420
that's fair. i'd also say he's got enough going on outside his claws (like his big ass wings) that they don't necessarily define him like they would for characters like Tigra, X-23, and White Tiger.
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holy fuck im so bad at aiming i can't even make hitscan work
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>>566438921
Chud means fuck in Kamala Harris's language.
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>Moon Girl & Peni Parker frontline
Your reaction?
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>>566438436
White Tiger doesn't want anything to do with Peter
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>>566439229
Not as good as an Armor and Peni Parker frontline
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The only skins I own have come from the battlepass.
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>>566418337
Baymax is a Marvel character.
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>>566439401
definitive take to be honest
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>>566438921
How is Netease gonna get around the whole "killing a child" thing with Moon Girl? Age her up to make her playable or just give her the Peni treatment and never actually show her in game?
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>>566439702
Probably age her up like peni
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>>566439702
Maybe it's a Phoenix situation.
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>>566439702
The latter.
But also Peni was aged up too.
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>>566439702
probably. she's been depicted as aged up before.
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>>566439702
>How is Netease gonna get around the whole "killing a child" thing with Moon Girl?
By not having her in the playable model. She will at best only show up during MVP and character selection, like Peni does.
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>>566440051
Would
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>>566438915
That’s one step. Not quite enough.
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>>566439702
Read >>566402826
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>>566439702
>implying that even matters
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>>566439248
Massive cope
>>566439554
If she looks at least marginally like this it’ll be a success
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>>566440051
>Black
>Two dark purple hairpuffs
>Bright red jacket with a somewhat futuristic design
>Round colored glasses
She reminds me of someone…
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>>566440978
The difference is that Moon Girl is a woman.
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there is no way that weekend players are this bad
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>>566440929
It's true, even the cartoon version didn't like him. Anything else is Spider-Cuck cope
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>>566440903
>Who says she needs to be shootable? Make it so she has a forcefield around her or teleports away when DD ‘dies’.
This is actively bad game design. Making a part of the enemy model whiff is bad enough, but when it's part of the model players would instinctively try to aim for makes it objectively shit. Not even Zhiyong is this incompetent and retarded.
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>>566441459
You’re massively misremembering that
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I'm banning Ultron & mantis every game now. Dealing with DD, Black Cat, Pheonix, or Elsa is far better than running into triple support cancer.
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>>566441557
Okay, she thought he was chill but that's it.
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>>566441461
It doesn’t have to “whiff”, it can still count as damage to DD, it just wouldn’t be causing harm to Lunella herself I.e. she wouldn’t react or anything
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>>566441461
I don’t hate the idea of iframes, but fact that she can do damage and dodge your damage at the same time is rage inducing
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My healing brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to requeue
My healing brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to requeue

I know you want it
The thing that heals you
What the team go crazy for
They lose their minds
The way I grind
I think it's time

La la, la la, la
Heal them up
La la, la la, la
The tanks are waiting
La la, la la, la
Heal them up
La la, la la, la
The dps are waiting

My healing brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to requeue
My healing brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to requeue

I can see you're low on health
You want me to teach the
Techniques that heals these boys
It can't be bought
Just know, smurfers get caught
Watch if you're smart
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>>566442194
La la, la la, la
Heal them up
La la, la la, la
The tanks are waiting
La la, la la, la
Heal them up
La la, la la, la
The dps are waiting

My healing brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to requeue
My healing brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to requeue

Oh, once you get healed
Everyone will look this way, so
You must maintain your aim
Same time lock in your game
Just get the perfect duo
Plus a good net connection
Then next you will capture
Then he's picked off your attacker

La la, la la, la
Heal them up
La la, la la, la
The tanks are waiting
La la, la la, la
Heal them up
La la, la la, la
The dps are waiting

My healing brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to requeue
My healing brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to requeue
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>how to kill your game
>add a meme dino and a black woman
it was nice playing rivals but its over now
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>>566442194
>>566442408
BOO! GET THE FUCK OFF THE STAGE!!
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everyone is talking out of their ass about the next character
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>>566443310
It happens every month
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Devil Dinosaur's sweaty cloaca.
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>>566443310
its the only thing we can do besides play the same 10 heroes every game
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>>566345345
i haven't lost to a team with no tanks but i've won games with no tanks lmao
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>>566346775
shes in the best spot she's been for like a year now i think this is a skill issue, theres no way you 'cant kill anything' if you're hitting shots
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soon
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>>566444248
She’s not even coming this year little nigga, think again
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Soon>>566444298
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>>566360985
I think every season has had it's ups and downs and almost all of them are fun, but people just don't want to play/learn new metas
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I hope I get to ride Devil Dinosaur and get actually meaningful damage reduction. Unlike the tree.
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>>566445194
>new metas
lmfao
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>DD and Black Cat will both be nerfed
>Phoenix and Elsa will be untouched
Half a season is far too long to have dive be strong. You will use guns in your superhero game and you will like it.
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>>566445831
sounds good to me. heroes that don't take skill should be nerfed, while heroes that do take skill should stay strong.
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>>566443310
I talk out my mouth doe
>>566445384
It’s sad that this isn’t even a meme anymore, it’s literally just reality by the devs own admission
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decided to try playing punisher and god damn it's so fucking funny when a tanktard just holds M1 in your direction because their tiny peanut brain was trained to think tank always wins 1v1 against dps, only to eat 3 shotgun headshots and die

I get why redditors unironically complain about him even though he's mid overall, he's good at punishing cocky tanks, that's literally it, isn't it?
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>>566445831
elsa seems pretty okay now, maybe a little minor nerf and she'd be perfect. it's so fucking crazy that two seasons ago they acknowledged phoenix is a little too strong and still have not nerfed her.
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>>566446391
ah yes getting 2 tapped half way across the map is so hard with Phoenix, she should remain untouched
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>>566448035
way harder than getting 2 tapped by dd or black cat teleporting in your face mashing buttons
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>>566447362
>to think tank always wins 1v1 against dps
This isn't true for any tank you must be playing a different game
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>>566448628
and here comes the tanktranny gaslight
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i don't really understand the game design philosophy of "this character got within 10m of you therefore they earned the right to kill you for free without needing to aim"
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>>566448628
Thor and Hulk are two of the best 1v1 characters in the game. Angela, Strange, and Emma can reliably win 1s with the majority of the roster as well.
The only characters that can reliably beat tanks in 1v1s are characters designed specifically for tank busting like Wolverine or IF, brawl characters like Bucky, Fantastic, and Elsa, and depending on the specific matchup, fliers (Iron Man especially).
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>>566436220
Cancer how
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>>566450202
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>>566450202
>high burst damage
>i frames on multiple moves
>team wide hallhacks
>damage reduction from marked targets
>overhealth
>zero aiming required

at a certain point "le high skill ceiling" doesn't make up for poor balance.
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>>566450409
are those tumors? is she okay?
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>>566451021
She just needs some signature Spider-Backshots and she’ll be fine
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Just had my team tilt in pregame because I banned strange instead of some stupid shit that retards like to ban like squirrel girl. Seriously what is wrong with these people?
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>>566450409
Which JellyBX mod makes her ass that fat
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>>566451631
thats with no mods
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sigh, she has like the perfect waist to hip...
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>>566452394
too bad she's not real
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>>566452394
guh...
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>>566452531
guh...
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>>566452531
>>566452676
Why are you both trans
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>have duo
>the duo only thumbs up each other
What causes this?
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>>566452851
guh...
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>>566452531
>>566452676
GUH-HUH!
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>>566452857
I duo and I thumb up anyone that I felt actually contributed to us winning.
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>>566431031
>>566433130
She's going to have so many dark men lined up behind her waiting to give her dark children
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>>566452961
heh
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i genuinely think psylocke is the worst DPS in the game
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i genuinely think psylocke is the cutest DPS in the game
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>>566453491
She's not holy fuck why do people who play strong characters pretend they aren't strong
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>RAAAGH IM GOING TO DRAG YOU INTO A CORNER AND MURDER THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!
your response, tankbro?
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>>566452915
>>566452676
>>566452531
Where did this even come from
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>>566454151
notice how he didn't say tankbros... #notsolotanking
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>>566453491
As long as widow continues to exist in her current state, no other dps can ever be considered the worst.
Regardless, whether you consider psy good or mid depends on your definition of "good". If you define "good" as "how well a hero can do in ideal conditions", then she's good. If you define "good" as "the ratio between skill/effort and hero performance" then she's mid. She requires way too much effort and gamesense to do well compared to the rest of the cast.
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>>566453491
I agree buff her guangguang
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>>566453491
not with that team wipe ults shes not
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>>566453491
Shes far from bad, the dps class just has a lot of competition so her being "good" seems like shes bad. I'd say Reed is still the worst since as a hybrid tank/dps hes only really good at tanking while real tanks can shit out more damage than him these days, and his ult counter acts his ability to stall points since it launches him off it in exchange for a bit of survivability.
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>>566455390
It's literally worse against teams.
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>>566377117
>Luna has chinky teeth
Would have thought her handler would fix that beforehand.
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This game has the best fliers in all of hero shooters
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>>566455825
This isn't true until they add ice man
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>>566455940
Only pre-Jean brainwash Bobby.
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>>566455713
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>>566453491
I know its Bait but
>Widow
>Blade
>Reed
>Wanda
>Doreen
>Iron Man without Ultron
On the fence with how I feel with both Johnny and Storm
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>>566457048
>Iron Man without Ultron
what the hell are you talking about?
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Feels so good to kick a filthy diver off your backline as Emma Frost,

Feels like im 13 playing Lee Sin in league of legends again
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>>566457674
>what the hell are you talking about?
Iron Man sucks mad dick unless he's getting mad pocketed, and its usually Ultron since they gel well together flying as well as the healing team-up.
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>>566457674
NTA but most healers don’t look up and Ultron, aside from being another flyer and naturally more aware of shit going on up there, can just set a drone on IM and forget about it
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Am I supposed to play with low latency on or off?
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Captain america is the most honest hero in the game
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>tank
>honest
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>>566458062
yes
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>>566458280
yes you dps/healer jew
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>>566457690
>Behold: Darkchild!
choke, slam, kick, death
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>>566458064
>entire kit is around animation cancel
>honest
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>>566458347
>oy vey goyim, this high damage, high HP, high mobility and high CC resistance were promised to us 3000 years ago
>dps players are jews btw
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>>566445384
>>566446643
I mean u people are just outing yourselves as shitters. Sure there's heros that have been good/broken across multiple seasons like gambit and DD, but the number of viable dps/vanguards have always been fluxing from season to season. the best part about the broken heros is that they're perma banned so their strength isn't even relevant in in 90% of your games
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>>566458675
>DPS/healers gets all of that and be broken for 4+ seasons
>no bro you are the jew for wanting even a sliver of that

ragebaiting kike
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>>566380551
>cRinGe gIaNt sh1T
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>>566458675
Fucking jew playing the victim again lmao
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>>566459027
>dps have 600+HP and CC resist
??
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>>566459340
>playing the victim again
You would think that tankfags get buttraped every time they launch the game based on how much they whine about literally everything
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feels good being a fill chad that can whine about everything
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I play Elsa/Black Cat/DD/Invis/Gambit and I'm from Israel btw
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>>566458291
Yes on or yes off?
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>>566459939
yes
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>>566459738
based mag champion
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>>566458280
Angry dive monkey fingers typed this
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>>566460253
divetrannies are on the same level as tanktrannies
neither require any skill. I only play heroes that need to aim.
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>he doesn’t spin a random character wheel before every game
ngmi
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>>566427632
This is all roles.
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If you removed the free mobility poke chud duelists get they would hang zhiyong
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For me it’s the ninja woman
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>>566458865
And if you play QP?
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>>566461660
then who cares
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What causes this mental illness?
I find it hard to believe that these are real human beings.
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>>566461973
furries are not humans anon.
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>>566462078
This
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>>566461973
I wanna fuck him
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>>566461973
>playing a character you like is considered odd
I hope joy and whimsy finds its way into your life someday /mrg/
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>>566461973
That's crazy. So anyways, post em.
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FAN
TASTIC
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>>566454535
If you define "good" as "the ratio between skill/effort and hero performance"

yeah this is pretty much what i meant
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Supports legit have to be the most retarded players in this game. Sometimes I play Spider-Man and it requires so much fucking effort to kill a backline healer, and then other times I play Tankpool and Its the same healers on my team and they fall over like paper to any diver.

I dont get it, is that just a skill diff on my support teammates parts? I watch the replay and these jackasses dont even bother using their self sustain or keep an eye on flanks, they just ignore it and get mad at the team when the team doesn't hardcarry them.
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>>566463727
This is the role that has characters like CnD and Rocket, it’s designed for the mentally handicapped
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>>566463927
and DPS has characters like scarlet witch, squirrel girl, and moon knight. guess that entire role must be for people with a few extra chromosomes
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Finally got my first Lord
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>>566464228
biggest fag in the thread
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>>566463927
idk its like celestial is full of boosted support players abusing op strategists and then you have the other half who are annoyingly good at not dying and play around their team's positioning and shit.

one of the things ive noticed is that people WILL play on your shitty healers, and the worst part about all of this is if you try to fill support then you cant because for some reason all the dogshit healers also convienently suck at every other role they play.
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>>566464228
>wanda
Good taste in women bad taste in gameplay
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>>566464651
At this high of a rank it makes more sense to be rigid. You can be a Celestial DPS but maybe your Tank play is Diamond, it makes sense to stay in the role you are comfortable with. Supports generally don't require knowledge on how to take space and keep it or aim so they are the worst when it comes to being able to flex to one of the other roles.
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>>566464835
>You can be a Celestial DPS but maybe your Tank play is Diamond
not possible, only the other way around. dps is the hardest role by far, any good dps player can play tank at the same level or better.
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>>566464510
You? Yes
>>566464806
Didn't ask
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Lol this game is so deceptive, if you avoid specific teammates then the game will actively break up the entire lobby. It will not let you play against a person who will likely get shipped with a dogshit dps, dogshit tank, and dogshit healer.
I'm not trying to game the system, but its interesting to see how fundementally flawed the matchmaking is.
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>>566465549
true only because i get no tanks when i want to play dps
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>teammate does really bad and costs us the game
>ask him if he's mentally retarded
>next game
>suddenly he decides to play like a fucking rat lord and try his hardest to win
>win the game despite this

what kind of piece of shit does this? why do this shit? its annoying as fuck.
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>>566467390
You sound like a smart guy anon I’m sure you’ll figure it out
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>stomping enemy team killing their backlines, pulling magneto to his death, general nuisance
>enemy team swapping to scarlet and emma trying to stop me
>spot an elsa flanking around trying to get to the cart alone easy kill
>get her to 1 hit from combo and she fucking solo ults me
>"nice ult elsa!"
>>it was worth it
I am honored to be getting so good at Spider-man that someone will solo ult me
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>>566467941
no such thing as "getting so good" at a braindead broken hero for brown monkeys that plays itself
you're also in no position to tell someone "nice ult" when your ult literally exists to be a "nuh huh I win!" button
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>>566468236
>doesn't play spider-man
it's okay you don't know how to play the most fun hardest character in the game
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>>566468236
>t. got sticky
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>>566468236
>t. got sticky
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>silver comp convoy game
>attacking first round
>both teams pretty evenly matched
>fight hard to get the first two points
>just barely lose the final point
>next round starts
>one of my teammates starts a surrender vote

Why are people like this? We ended up winning btw
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>champion shitlocke gets buckbroken so hard that he goes straight to "insert the actual broken characters here"

i laugh every time
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>>566469074
Some people just have dogshit mental. Others don't want to ever actually win, they want to stomp for ego purposes.
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>>566469286
psylocke is that "insert the actual broken character" thoughever
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>>566469286
More buffs for Psylocke
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>team goes 2 tank into iron fist
>blames me
Nigger? Why are their gay retarded niggas in this game?
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>>566468236
>t. got sticky
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>>566468467
>>566468753
>>566470065
somehow I'm not surprised that spiderman brownoids also have homoerotic fantasies about their opponents
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Add it and I’ll play adam
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>>566463727
>Supports legit have to be the most retarded players in this game. Sometimes I play Spider-Man and it requires so much fucking effort to kill a backline healer, and then other times I play Tankpool and Its the same healers on my team and they fall over like paper to any diver.

They are too retarded to heal each other and they think they automatically lose any match up to a diver.
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>>566468236
mad cuz bad
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>>566466171
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>566470580
>t. got sticky
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>>566465549
Not hard enough to keep people from instalocking them. Dps is full of braindead characters like Namor, Squirrel Girl, Moon Knight, Iron Man, or Scarlet Witch but even the most brain dead tanks require more thought than them.
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>>566470767
>and they think they automatically lose any match up to a diver.
I've noticed this. They just give up and run away and then beg for peel in team chat. Meanwhile the best peeler in the game right now is Sue.
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>>566470964
>Namor, Squirrel Girl, Moon Knight, Iron Man, or Scarlet Witch
all of these characters take more skill than any tank
people instalock them specifically because they take skill and are engaging to play, unlike tanks where you just spend all game mashing buttons and basically watching the game play itself
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>>566470767
>and they think they automatically lose any match up to a diver.
They do if that diver is Black Cat. By the time you realize she's there she's already dashed away with half your health and is inbound with the second.
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>>566471084
bait and not good bait I will be disappointed in anyone who replies seriously
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>>566471190
It's not bait it's just sarcastic, retard.
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>>566471187
BC is hot garbage
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>>566471190
>>566471271
>my tiny tanktranny brain can't accept it so it must be bait or sarcasm
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sex with magik
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>>566443310
>t. believed Black Cat would be a Vanguard werecat
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>>566468236
>t. got sticky
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FACT: vanguard is the designated cuck role
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>>566471281
t. BC main who doesn't want his free kill button hero to get nerfed yet
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Getting revenge on trashtalking teammates in the next match gets me so fucking hard
Just avoided two of them after a miserable loss, next game they were both on the enemy team and got fucking rolled
I cummed a little
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>>566471783
reads like supportsissy propaganda.
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>>566471959
And everyone stood up and clapped
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BC has the same problem as psy in that she's good in the hands of a good player, but why would you put effort into getting good with her when you can play spiderman or BP and accomplish the same with a fraction of the effort
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>>566472052
oh there was clapping all right
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>>566471959
based if true but cringe if you made this up for attention
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>>566472092
Please stop posting here
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>>566472089
>as psy in that she's good in the hands of a good player
you don't even have to be good with psy to get value out of her, her ult alone is a guaranteed two kills at least if you use it correctly.
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>>566472180
no
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>>566440920
Arcade when? I wanna experience the hero fantasy of just absolutely sliming people out.
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>>566472225
>walks out of your ult because it doesn't apply any kind of CC and is just a worse spiderman ult all around
nothing personnel kiddo
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>>566471429
We know, Strange.
>>566470580
Just the /mrg/ ones.
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>>566471339
Now that's bait
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>>566472225
you mean the ult you get once a year?
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modders > NetEase costume department
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>>566472483
She's not allowed to wear pants because you're supposed to look at her thighs to see if she's in diamond form.
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>>566471959
It's like the best feeling ever isn't? It's like the universe just validated your assignment of those morons.
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>>566472571
I think her hair not being whatever color it is in her current outfit is enough of a signifier. Or the sudden change in her movement
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>>566472669
this nigga got a free EOMM win against a brown kid who ended with 1000 damage on spiderman and is proud of it
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>>566472725
Nope, it's those thick, squeezable thighs.
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>>566472669
>TwoTugTimmy
kek
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>>566472784
>EOMM
just admit you got outplayed
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>>566472669
that rocket is unironically a tranny btw
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>>566472907
is it because of the name
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>>566472976
yes
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>>566472976
New to marvel rivals whats the meme
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TO ME, MY X-MEN!
>>566473268
>>566473268
>>566473268
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>>566472571
i don't care.
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>>566473279
its not marvel related, its a character from hunter x Hunter
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>>566471187
You're supposed to be aware of common dive routes. As a Hulk main I figure out where they are coming from and hunt them down.
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>>566473619
wrong rocket...
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>>566472571
No retard. You look at her health bar.
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>>566474553
What does "pattymillz" have to do with trans
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>>566477631
I've been playing since day 1 and I still haven't been able to train myself to notice that people are CC immune from looking at their health bar. The border should really be a different color.
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>>566473619
Weird post
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>>566441795
It was more than that, even though they never went all in on it
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>>566150361
Very gay of you
>>566320109
>>566321098
Why are jeets like this
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>>566461750
Concession accepted.
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>>566459310
Stay mad faggot



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