>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>566302195
Silver...Le week...
Sex with Venator
>>>Parryslop
parrykino
>>566371707parryGAWD
did someone order a cocktail?
serious question is this mina? or supposed to be her?
>>566371745>>566371524The game is full release and some imaginary model clipping doesn't change that.
>>566371945https://youtu.be/kxrf7KplbfU37:56Infernu- I mean Inferno sounded a lot more zesty in Neon Prime
>>566372849zzz
At what point in the game do you get anti-heal?
>>566373683when they have a shiv/abrams/geist or anyone bought infuser/vamp burst
A Silver just carried my Oracle 6 game 20/1How did she do it? I don't know but I watched her 1v6 endgame and the enemy team was legit doing no damage. Must be cheats.
>>566373891a silver in my last game just went 0/8 and abandoned around 12 minutes, phantom 2 btw
>>566373683>healbaneearly>spirit burnlate but not 'last 3 minutes of the game' late>decaywhenever>toxic bulletswhenever>crippling headshotmid to lategame>inhibitormid to lategame
Imagine Seven ulting here
>Doorman's alot has counterplay built into it but it's mid risk high reward where IF the enemy fails the baroness puzzle you get a fat stun, a bunch of damage and a free refreshed ult, yet at the dame time doorman's ult gets value even if the parkour challenge is completed since it keeps 1 enemy stuck in place for 5 seconds where ambushs can be easily set up, it also has value in that it works as a cuck deterrent for strong enemy ults like silver/seven/warden etcHow do we design graves's skulls and tombstone in a way where the enemy breaking them is high risk high reward or with some kind of safety feature where graves gets value even when her skills are countered?I've been thinking of the skulls exploding and dealing more damage then a hit but a lot less damage then if they were to attack for their entire duration, or alternatively making the skulls heal graves when they're broken.Yes im reposting this i like to discuss balance
>>566373891>How did she do it?Very likely a smurf. I see Silvers constantly flounder at the game and I go to their statlocker and turns out they're a "one trick" that can't even perform at their character wellProbably because they're all named shit like "Lilith puppygirl she/her and are too busy gooning to actually focus on the game
>>566374290Instantly brought down by Mohammed & Kareem with phantom strike.
>>566373683>healbanepart of your 4.8k green set>spirit burnyour first or 2nd 6300 spirit. honestly you only have like 4 choices here: reverb, boundless, spirit, or ee not in that order>decaytempo buy a.k.a do they have dispel yet? if not then buy this and force them to make a choice>toxic bulletsafter 4.8k spirit, if playing pure gun then if you need it>crippling headshotyour first or 2nd 6300 gun item. crippling headshot is crazy damage spike>inhibitorhonestly idk i rarely buy this item and now that it's nerfed i dont think i will ever look at it again. just buy curse nigga. 101% damage penalty since they literally can't play the game.
i really love mo and krill\\s combo its such a good game mechanic everyone wants to be auto aimed into someones arms for 9 minutes
>>566374340Skulls deal like a third of their current damage but have actual HP and Graves gets an alt fire that just points somewhere and orders her summons to go there.
>>566373891>How did she do it?She had 20 kills worth of souls so she can buy 3 or 5 tier4 items while the enemy team struggles to buy 1. Also, silver as a character is heavily geared for PvP, they should've bought CCs for her
>>566374709Mohammed is an honest hero.*Magic carpets to grab you*
>check top ranked streamer>all item cds in middle of screen>all npcs visisble through walls>exact soul advantage %s>exact zipline cd visible at all times>visible unspent souls on all players in game>visible souls in unspent bags>exact timers on when everything respawns>different markers for camps/sinners so you can tell if it's partially cleared>execute thresholds on dots/delayed damageexplain to me why this is allowed?
Don't open this image if you're faint of heart.
>>566374795Bro those are QOL mods, I'm visually impaired so I need to see all of that info, why do you hate disabled people so much??
>>566374795Don't worry, bro. Valve will do the same with Dota, implement those features but on a subscription just like with Dota Plus
>>566374441Generally I try to get healbane before minute 20 but sometimes I just get toxic bullets instead is that fine
>>566375254The DOT from Toxic applies Healbane btw, might as well buy it for antihealmaxxing.
>>566375301Between needing dispell and perhaps warpstone also it's running a tight ship on the slots
all drifter needs is for marked enemies to be revealed on the map or through walls
>just buy healbane, counterspell, warp stone, metal skin, spirit resilience, and unstoppable every single game
>>566375410drifter should get a keybind to voice chat directly to whoever he has marked
>>566375367Just do healbane + warpstone then, it's 4.8k. Buy green items later depending on the game.
>>566373683wheneverhealing is abundant enough that it's pretty much always good to have antiheal. even in lane it cuts the heal of hp troopersin the mid game though you should probably make sure you aren't stacking duplicate sources of antiheal
>>566374795A lot of these are bullshit but seeing enemy unspent soul is another level.
>>566373683neverjust buy more damage
I went from Arcanist to Seeker I swear I SWEAR i'd be Emissary if it wasnt for fucking Russians
>>566374795give me 20 good reasons why this information shouldn't be in the game
>>566375552Oooy vey I need resto locket and Fortitude for my sinclair build best I can do is toxic bullets minute 20 if I don't need dispel before that extended duration and range is important goy and hey if I can fly away with marpet then I avoid feeding the enemy which is a type of anti heal minute 30 toxic bullets but you're pushing it
>>566375723Rank doesn't mean anything just focus on improving
>>566375723>i went from pee to poo but i swear i'd be doodoo if it weren't for the poop goblins
>>566373683>>566375567oh except for crippling. you can stack that one with your team. and you should if you can
>>566375764There are so many good 1600 items it's actually fucked. I like going trophy + fortitude for my 4800 green tax (so I don't get oneshot in this meta) because it's roam + slot efficient, but I miss out on one green util item.
>brool and normal share mmr>if I ever want to try the normal game I will be an elo terrorist with 0(zero) marco skillWell, guess I'm a brool only chud now
>paradox on enemy team>echo grenade build>deals the most damage in the game and has the most kills>paradox on my team>gun build>deals the least damage in the game and has no killsEvery time
>holliday on enemy team>barrel nuke support build>deals the most damage in the game and has the most kills>holliday on my team>gunslop "crackshot build">deals the least damage in the game and has no killsEvery time
>>566376447>>566376523who let the guncabal come in here and downplay gun?
>dynamo on enemy team>ult and support build>wins every teamfight for free>dynamo on my team>stomp build>steals all farm and never ults anyoneEvery time
>enemy team>no tankbuster>wins>my team>buys tankbuster>losesEvery time
>>566376594HEY I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MAKE THIS POST YOU STOLE IT
>poopoo on enemy team>poop thrower build>deals the most damage in the game and has the most kills>poopoo on my team>peepee build>deals the least damage in the game and has no kills
>Oh my god they got tankbuster, what must we do to counter this!Has anyone in the history of deadlock ever said that after they reduced it to le 8% current hp, slowing hex or silence makes me way more worried in comparison
>>566375935indian post
>>566376394it's okay honestly if your rank is likeat the very least below oracle, if that, you should be fineoracle players are also retarded but if you just apply the basic principle of "generate chores -> go do stuff" or "do your chores -> go do stuff"
>vindicta on enemy team>chink/snow nigger aimbot cheater>wins the game by himself>vindicta on my team>actual 0 hours newnigger>feeds and turns the game into 5v6Every time
>silver upplayer on enemy team>0 wins eternus "pro">picks silver and ends up embarrassing themselves on stream>silver downplayer on my team>didn't pick silver so she ends up on enemy team>winsEvery time
>>566376684>enemy poopoo builds fart shit>friendly builds pee pissit was over from the draft
Quick question for lash/holliday playersIs it normal to get behind in souls? They are perma roamers and i find myself doing camps and boxes a lot and maybe lane if team is retarded enough to leave it unattended for no reason (so most of the time in high emissaryand how long does it usually take to get good at them? Got 300hrs+ on mina and i dominate a often
>>566376854As a Holliday player yes you cant farm as easily as others crackshot tier 5 DOES replenish on jungles but you still need to shoot them individual until Richochet and Barrels while a good lane clear is no where as good as seven's ball or Victor's Aura for example as for how long depends if you're good at hitting headshots you're half way there all you need to learn afterwards is how to actually aim barrels when you punch them and some niche combos like barrel into stomp into lasso but thats really not necessary
>>566376854>Is it normal to get behind in souls?No, the supportsissy should be the lowest net worth. You should be at 3rd to 4th in terms of net worth. Always try to get unattended soul source Always feel it out. If the hyper carry is pathing to clear the entire yellow jungle then fuck off. More money for you = more items and boons = more successful roams.
>>566376854Lash wants to perma roam and rape when lane phase ends, around minute 10-20 is Lash hayday until enemy buys counterspell. You don't farm camps during that time.Holiday is kinda the same but generally worse
>pos1the lategame rapist>pos2-5 the midgame rapists>pos6the rapedDid I get it right?
>>566377343pos 6 ideally helps pos1 raping but yeah paige sissies live in constant fear for good reason
>>566376785I do find it funny how it's always Vindicta that's a cheater, and not a Talon. Who knew that fags who cheat in games would also be waifufags
>Paige and Rem lose weight and get 3 stamina>Mina and Silver are still fatfucks with 2 staminaLOL!
>>566376854nodon't miss more than one wave at a timeget boxessteal jungle campskillideally you should roam harder when you have ult, and then farm harder when you don't
>>566376735>>566376821I demand that you stop making fun of my wife Lilah Silver and give her the respect that she is fucking due
>>566374720>Skulls deal like a third of their current damage but have actual HPIf that's the case they should chase enemies infinitely instead of having range, That or double their range and improve their AI because as is it's garbage > Graves gets an alt fire that just points somewhere and orders her summons to go there.
>>566378007an RTS hero would be interesting honestly
>>566377201>until enemy buys counterspell.Nobody in my rank knows what counterspell is
>>566376735She's le s+tier sorryDo I buy disarming hex when she's fed?NoI just cry that she's OP
I caught the lash disease and now i have to queue lashIts over
>>566377890I respect her as a B tier hero that occasionally do well if she snowballs
>Gun Geist is apparently crazy good>I only ever see bomb Geists
>>566378558I wouldn't say it's crazy good anymore, it's caught multiple nerfs recently.Still better than bombmaxxing though.
>>566375471Dont forget>while behind on souls because the character you're worried about is fed
>>566378406dnsfags were playing pos1 gun lash so if you play pos1 gun lash you'll have multiple carries in your team because the game still thinks lash is a support
What's the secret to doing well on Celeste? The mobility is fun, and the ult is useful, and I am generally not very good, so maybe it's just that I am not yet anywhere near gud, but compared to my time on Mina, Drifter and Vinny, Celeste:>has way, way worse damage>is effectively entirely reliant on her abilities to do damage>can't really build into gun too much because her kit is spirit-heavy, so even if you build SOME into gun it's not going to be a lot>is far more reliant on her team not eating shit >exceptionally weak at low soul level, gets decent at like 20-30k, which is to say, you have to farm like a motherfucker to stay ahead of people and to get to where you actually can play the game>does poorly in a 1v1, very low burst damage, winning a 1v1 against somebody not made of cardboard means spending lots of your abilities and your stamina
>>566379048urn slave
>>566379048>What's the secret to doing well on CelesteReading her abilities. Her entire kit is like based on conditionals. You rape if you hit the conditionals, you get raped if you don't.
>>566378989Thats sorta annoying huh? It makes sense tho. Btw what do you build on lash to deal with minna? Her ult keeps causing trouble in team fights for me
>>566379408silence wave
strong man crying
>>566379240Well, yes, that much is obvious, but the problem I have is, she just doesn't feel like she's actually very oppressive even at her best. It's a lot more effort than Mina, Drifter or Vinny, for lesser impact. I don't remember a single game where an enemy Celeste, even ones that did really, really, really well, were as big of a menace as really good Vinnies, Minas or Drifters, so it's clearly not just me being bad.
>>566379815bro is playing games in the future
>>566380262Rorschach is fucking bullshit he's the only reason i m losing fucking stupid devs
>>566380746With pillow toss off cd rem becomes a frontliner
>>566380746it's weird seeing Valve ask questions about "frontliners." Like that isn't an official term bro it's just gamer jargon.
>>5663807465People don't know about the full green Rem build
>>566381250they're asking if the hero is picked by russians that should be sent to the frontline, valve is working with putin look it up
>>566381349rem should be sent to the frontline, faggot pisspants rat
>>566376594ult dynamo is fucking rancid, his hole's too big of a cooldown even with cooldown reductions
>>566381872The threat of the ult is as powerful as the ult
>>566380746
>>566380746>>566381951AAAACCCCKKKKK!!!!
>>566381945>never put a single point into ult>never use ult>enemy will still act like they need to be terrified of ult
>>566381945this you literally cannot do urns or midboss if dynamo is alive and has ult
I love RemThis is Rem's game
Flopping tranny deadcock.
META TRANSFER!
>>566382201so true xister! *claps* so true!
>>566382414god hes so powerful
I used to be mina onetrick but then I grew as a person
>>566371945>>566372913>From Urban Youth shot dead to hehehe you see'in dat shieet?
>reached ascendant>never use parries (dishonest game mechanic)>don't know any movement techThis game is too easy all you need is map awareness
>Can't. I'm busy suck up to the viscount today.First time I'm hearing of this line... Mina is an actual whore.
whatever changes they made to matchmaking I think they made it worse somehow
which characters are most likely to be pedophiles
>>566384678Geist
>>566384678its the 1950s so all of them
>>566380746The term 'frontliner' may as well not even exist when Abrams and Billy get killed in about 2 seconds at 15 minutes unless they're 8k ahead
>>566386174Billy can be tanky but only when paired with his ult + Colossus, otherwise yeah its very easy to melt him.
>>566386476He's tanky until someone presses parry, heh.
>>566386476It feels like the devs are in a bit of a tough spot when it comes to tanks, at the moment it's very easy to kill pretty much all the frontline-y heroes unless they're absurdly ahead, but if you nerf spirit burst damage even slightly too much you'll create a pretty antifun metaI personally think TTK is way too low right now but I recognize that it's a pretty tight line to manage in terms of balancing
>>566386974Frontlines are a whole are difficult to balance, I would argue they should be on the stronger end since their role is to soak enemy attention but then you have shit like Shiv who does everything.
>>566387159Shiv isnt even that good
>apollo>gtare there more spirit burst heroes that likes to permaroam? i really want to include lash but the meta build for him right now is gun because this game is cucked
>>566387375Gun lash can roam, lash will always be able to roam as long as he has his ult.
>>566386174mo shiv and abrams are tanky but they can't just face tank everything and get fucked by anti heal
>>566382414I played during the april fools with mu friendEnemy bebop hit us with a "what the fuck am I supposed to do I can't do any damage."Made me chuckle.
first ascendant lobby i've been dropped intogod i love venator. feels good, man
>premade stack of cheating rusnigs on enemy teamFun!
I feel like this game actually hates me right now non stop games back to back are just russians that seethe at each other dont play the game Im not in Low prio i dont abandon i dont flame what the fuck is going on
>>566387375Lash will never not roam.
>>566387460>>566388140He's a roamer but not a spirit burst roamer if he's gun.
>>566388140>>566387460The point is I'm looking for spirit burst heroes not gun heroes.
>>566388785spirit minelayer venator
>>566388785Mina or Pocket
Rem can now throw pillows while in naptime.No other changes.Is he still sub 45% win rate or is he workable?
>>566387375kelvin
>>566389093they just need to remove his random weakness to melee and give him like 100-200 more HP.
let the fire claim them
I'm bored at work can we talk about how dogshit victor is right now >B-but his winrate Don't care
another character concept fresh out of the bowels pls ratehttps://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-concept-the-silencer-%E2%80%94-from-the-friends-of-humanity-faction.131970/
>>566381250Valve wants to design a draftless Dota
>>566374290idk they seem to have plenty of cover.
>>566390548BUFF HIS SPIRIT SCALINGGUT HIS GUNGUT HIS ULT INTING FOR WALKERS SHITI had a 65%+ winrate on his spirit build in shitelo before they buffed his pain battery for no reason, it was so fun.His core ability should be aura.
Average Apollo in my team.Thinking about uninstalling.Now I remember why I stopped playing Dota back in the days.
>>566389807Nice AI video. There is no way you deal 1500 damage with Venator like this.
I find Billy's totally normal human arms to be unsettling. His arms need to be more goat-like somehow.
The drifter, after cornering Paige in an alley, realizes in horror that he won't be the one doing the raping that night.
>>566392139through christ all things are possible
>>566389093I think he'd be way better but people would probably bitch about it because it's a bit cheesy pillow max Rem might actually be good if he buys echo for tag along. he would never be targetable while his team is alive and do real damage
>>566381945>four enemies dead>"dynamo's alive though">it's okay we have three unstops>do mid>the fucker ults us before any of us pop unstop>his teammate didn't follow him in and we just kill him afterwardsI was really close to freaking out, because he genuinely got all three of us that had the unstops before we even popped it.
>enemy has graves>collect free win
just noticed eido added rushing dispel to his mina build after he got raped in dns 0-11 lmao
>>566392001I started playing 3 days ago and I get one of these guys almost every game. Not 0/10 tier bad every time, but there's always some idiot who doesn't understand the concept of retreating or staying at a distance in a dangerous area. I have like 2k hours in MOBAs so I am very familiar with this kind of specimen.I am also bad at games but if you suck then stay behind and support your team instead of trying to dive constantly.I tried communicating with a Billy like that yesterday and he replied in genuine gibberish letters, not even russian or whatever, who knows where this retarded 12 year old was from>Thinking about uninstalling.>Now I remember why I stopped playing Dota back in the days.When I get upset I also think that because I'm 30 and I'm too old for competitive games, but Deadlock is too fun and addicting for now
>>566393775>arcane surge>toxic bulletsyare yare daze.... >>566393867dispel has always been a pretty early buy in his build, since everyou die if you can't bat. you need bat to do your thing. slowing hex is 1600, dispel is 3200. it's a no-brainer for your opponents to buy the former, because then you must buy the latter
>>566394140>since everoh yeah? he still got raped though by hex
How am I supposed to play Kelvin ?I reckon it’s Grenade to heal allies, Path to roam, Beam for the debuff, but I’m not even sure when and how to use his ultimate – to protect allies, I suppose ?
>>566394365>to protect alliesyou will be mainly using it to create a no escape rape zone
>>566394365Isolate someone in a 2v1 with dome.
Can't wait for open beta for the surge of Ivy r34
>>566395141>open betaGame will be unplayable solo.
>>566394365I started doing so much better on kelvin when i stopped overthinking the dome. you are really fast with path so sometimes the move is just to dome an escaping enemy to hold them in place until your team show up. half the time you can kill them urself, and if you can't ususally the dome heal will keep you alive
>>566395215I've been playing solo since the Uncle Dane leak. Volvo just needs to fix matchmaking by then. Easy peasy!
>>566394365icebomb chunks with mystic reverb
>faggot infernus gets into some ego argument with his lane partner>abandons the game but it's past 5 mins>look inside>steam profile with only 1 game, blatant smurf account, obviously took the abandon because he knows he can just switch accountsreally cool, i love this game
>Kelvin gets Unstable Concoction
>Dynamo whiffs his ult>"I AM T-">cancels and pretends it didn't happen
who wins
>get chat restricted for performing verbal TND>can't communicate at all>people shower me with commendations because they think I'm being a good sport by not flaming anyoneSeems a little counter-intuitive...
>>566395694Kind of an even draft but your team can just run at the other early on so you should win if you don't fuck up doing that
>>566395694Top because Silver is S+
>>566395694>team with 2 pick or bans vs team with 4 pick or bans
>>566394365nade is also a nuke, it's dual purpose. early on you probably want to use it on the enemy, the damage is just more valuable early onit's rare for the enemy to let you, but you can jump into people and nade to both hurt them and heal you. extra good if they're on top of your boy. its T2 freezes stamina regen, which gives your team a massive edge when chasing someone or when running away. nade the guy you want to keep away or the guy you're trying to catch.path is just good in general. escape, roam, fight, bored, whatever. the T1 gives you a fuckload of bullet res when on the path.use beam while on ice path so they can't get out of it and can't effectively fight backand yeah pretty much. just arctic beam the most important target, it keeps them pretty pinned down and useless. it does solid damage too. if you get very ahead you can stack spirit and max trail+beam to make their m1 carries want to fucking kill themselves. i still have trauma from getting WIGHTED on vindicta. over and over.ult is pretty flexible. the dome can trap enemies in, trap enemies out, and it gives regen (a fuckload of regen at T3) to you and every ally within it. there's a lot you can do with that. you dome someone fighting when it looks like it might be sketchy, and it can turn the fight. you dome to jump someone. you dome to isolate a target. you dome to turn a bigger losing fight into a smaller winning fight. you dome to save your team from a dangerous ult. also it freezes objectives, useful for stalling. don't forget you can cast it centered on yourself via alt-castalso. small thing. you should know that venator's ult pierces the dome. i have acquired many a kill from unknowing kelvins turning him and his teammate into fish in a barrel. be weary
can you find matches now?
>>566395694Both blue and green lane lost their walkers at 8 minutes
>>566395694bottom because pubs never know how to close out a game before 30 minutes
>>566395694>>566396154>>566396234both blue and green lane lost their walkers at 8 minutes
what percent of deadlock players played dota or another moba before?
my GOAT went 4/0 in the latest night shift finals.
>>566381250
>>566399410I played League but as a hardstuck bronze playerYes I am ascendant how could you tell?
What would make you quit the game?For me it would be Apollo buffs.
>>566401631Silver nerfs (she needs buffs)
>>566401631Mina not getting savagely raped and then not getting nerfed either
Weren't you faggots saying MM was better?
>>566401631Probably another character as op as dynamo being released
this game needs more free damage passives. we need a hero that deals damage passively from being in line of sight
Why doesn't Silver want to build Siphon bullets? The proc rate is limited so it's not like you need a Rate of Fire build and testing in the sandbox you get 221 from it just doing your combo. This seems like a free damage item that helps you stay alive when you dive.
>>566403006>Spirit VictorWell that's your issue first off, Spirit isn't viable on him at all.you either play his gun tempo retardation or don't play him at all.
>>566403116>we need a hero that deals damage passively from being in line of sightSeven ult?
>>566403006>Weren't you faggots saying MM was better?Nobody said this>>566403331He's not playing Victor, though
another dayanother Valve not nerfing DynamoThank you nigger devs, VERY cool.
>>566393496>get a 4 man ult on dynamo in the middle of a teamfight with hole maxed>all enemies survive and go on to kill everyone on my team>demote his card on my hero selection
>>566403554I saw a few posts here saying mm was better for sure. I guess that was bullshit.
>>566403650Dynamo is such a piece of shitNo idea how characters like venaror are supposed to exist in the same world as that freak
>>566403289if you aren't triggering it on cooldown you are getting less value out of it.if you just want health just buy colossus or something.
>>566403894>Dynamo can cockblock virtually the entire roster by teleporting with his low cooldown teamwide teleport that cleanses debuffs
>>566403971
>>566403998Yeha. If you could have 2 copies pf a character in the same game dynamo would be the best counter to dynamo
>>566403971>>566404403>cheats
>>566403971>>566404403Can't see shit
>>566404403
>>566394470>>566394713>>566395232>>566395409>>566397086Thx, I'll just play and try to pop the ult when I feel it's needed.
>>566387206Shiv is incredibly overpowered and doesn't even take much skill to play. His abilities are all easy to land, the shotgun movement is easy once you get used to it.
>>566403116>laughs in spirit victorI am blind and deaf so I am forced to carry games on himI wish rem wasn't dogshit so I could healslut games
small kelvin questionif you are in range with your ult of an enemy hero, should you cast the ult on them or on yourself.
>>566405132>I wish rem wasn't dogshit so I could healslut gamesyou could always play paige
>>566405153There's no difference so cast it on anyone
>>566405298but full purple book wyrm paige is broken...
get the ziggers off my games yoshi they are all monkeys who disconnect after dying twice in lane
>>566406052it's not unless your opponents are all russian, but even slavic animals know not to stand in lava
is there a way to select north american servers? i dont want to play with cyrillic names again
>>566387206Here come the Shiv downplayers...
>>566404403Is this footage from the Stevie Wonder Let's Play?
>>566406636>>566406115CS2 server picker
>play celeste>get jumped by the entire enemy team>press space a few times>win instantly
>>566406505what does your child hentai gif have to do with that?
>>566406505ty pedo now kys
>>566406636it doesn't work, they're here too.i play early in the day on NA and get britbongs and french people sometimes too.
>>566407939I keep getting to south european servers as an NEgger and it's incredibly annoying playing with 60-80 ping where no one fucking communicates, neither ping nor voip.
How do I git gud at kelvin? I've been consistently at the lowest soul count for a while
>boy Billy sure seems fun I want to learn how to play him>god's strongest mentally ill genetic dead ends are bestowed upon me>sowwwyyyyyu if you ever get even slightly behind as Billy you don't get to play the game uwu not Shiv or Celeste or Silver though they're smol wittle beams and deserve to 1v6 even when 60k souls behind uwu
greyt talon is slept on for how stupiud he is
>>566408061I much prefer it when SA servers don't communicate. When they do, it's with the worst microphones on earth and with Spanish music blaring and people talking in the background
>>566408179Lock inJust carried a game where my team lost all their lanesThe only constant is you. Wreck their shit.
IN HEREIAM KING!
rem is trans
Is there any hero that makes you happy when (s)he's on your team ?
>>566408791see >>566408561
>>566408791Wraith (I don't have to play against this nigger 0 skill faggot mouth-breathing-friendly freewin character)
>>566408959Objection; Wraith players are retarded and bad and will lose the game if they're on your team.
>>566408561BASED
>>566408179Billy unironically does more than either of those when behind
>>566408959You would be happy if she was not there at all.
Name a worse feeling than fucking up a Mina/Dynamo/Wraith teleport on geometry and getting raped and killed for it
>lane with a silver>she is tower diving and dying constantly but also getting kills>feeds me and the enemy wraith by doing this
>>566408791Dynamot. Lash main>He hard counters your ult on the enemy team but has amazing synergy with your ult when he's on your team
>>566409231I won't because there isn't one.
>>566409410Sadly AFAIU is in a broken state and I'm not sure that it's a good idea to learn a hero that will probably be fixed.>He hard counters your ult on the enemy teamHow ?
A lot of Vyper builds have split shot, is this item actually good or is it a meme item?
>8 losses in a rowI can't take this shit no more
>>566409878Pressing his 2 lets his entire team dodge Lash ult
>>566409231Door placement logic
>>566409231Don't use instant cast with wraith's teleport. Problem solved.
>>566408791Paigeeven better when she's in my lane
>being a tank>the M1 niggers just shreeds you like a creepI see.....
>>566411678I play tanks because I have to become the green man that does no damage regardless of who I play, because of the 0/14 retard on my team
>its a literal hour game and my pocket still has trophy collector
okay seriously, where’s the fucking patch?
>>566411993please post match id
>>566411993big aoe
>>566412089here you go amuse yourself no one did overly bad and we won but i still hate trophy collector so
>>566412235at least it's a decent item now.
>>566410219>Bring nearby allies with you.FUCK I thought it was one ally, not the whole team ...
>>566396234>team with nightshift slop vs generically good heroes>>566397750>>566398059Not surprisedPub Silver's are kind of like Pub Drifters in that they hope they lane against speds with 200 ping or they just don't get to do anything the whole game.
>>566412235its a better enduring speed for the same price
>>566413358i was the silver, our lane was even but there isn't much you can do into a 25k soul diff at 10 minutes
>>566411678Why would he sell it? It's at max efficacy at full stacks.
>see three teammates behind me>all have ults ready>go in>die 1v4 as my team went somewhere else
>>566349991>solo queue support character>win or lose I derank because I'm not playing a carry>also the dev behind matchmaking code is a vibe coderThis is terrible.
>>566394365>but I’m not even sure when and how to use his ultimateDeny objectives(guardians and walkers are immune urns can't be touched and rejuvs can't be taken)The people suggesting rape dome aren't necessarily wrong but warp stone is meta rn and it literally just lets people teleport in and out of the dome so I've had it actually cuck my team out of securing a kill before, or trap someone inside with an enemy that teleported in to eat them alive.Kelvin's ult is just kind of weak and shitty desu but the rest of his kit is so strong that it doesn't matter too much. Use it whenever, it's not an ult you feel too bad about being caught without.
>>566413498You're just kind of gambling when you play Silver.Never had a lobby where one was a threat without getting a free lane and even then they're so easily CCed into a non-threat compared to a real carry.
kill glocket
First time infernus, you cant tell me that this hero is fair, holy shit.I hit a lash in the air charging ulti for a half a second and he died to burn/poison bullet
>>566389093His winrate would still be negative, probably like 46% or somethingRem doesn't deserve the winrate he has, he just has the most retarded players imaginableIt's so fucking rare to run into a Rem that doesn't just steal every sinner on the map(including his own team's) to try some retarded gun/pillow build that does no damage and only use minions for sinners
>>566414539he's aids yeah.
>>566414675This Rem can be a fucking monster he's one of the best laners in the game if you use your minions + tag along right you can keep your entire team alive but rems just scurry to slot machines gamble their savings away and deliver fat bags to the enemy
>>566414539A lot of heroes in the game like thisMirage makes me mad because he has built in sustain, two escape abilities, and a gun that only needs to land a shot every 3 seconds to do max damageGeist makes me mad because she has two abilities to be immortal, a strong gun, and an ability that boosts all her damage and yet I've seen one Geist out of the last 50 not go 0/14 in lane because her players are so fucking stupid
>>566401631Infernus/dynamo/mina buffsgraves nerfs or them changing the characters in dumb ways to appease retards.Honestly i just don't feel like playing as is, the game is becoming too stale and boring, they need to spice up the map, the infinite farm inside the jungle discourages active play, same with mid boss, no one ever takes mid boss unless 3 or 4 people from the opposing team are dead, the game needs an objective like baron/the drakes/grubs etc, closest thing that exists right now is the 2 buffs but both of them are done in 1 hit and are generally not worth fighting over, there are matches where both buffs stay up and i go to get both, sometimes even i just leave them up because they're that irrelevant>inb4 erm, but in eternus mega sweat lobbies every advantage mattersI don't care, it's not FUN, i want to have fun
>>566414983>Watch nightshift>Constant chaotic fights over midboss>Play pubs>Midboss is something you do lategame when half the enemy team is dead, nobody contests it most of the time
>that rank diffValve pleasealso is my build dumb or is it just skill issue? I'm going for bolts but I just can't deal enough damage.
>>566401631already thinking of doing that ever since those youtubers shilled that matchmaking has changed my games have become absolutely miserable
>>566415441if you aren't top damage on bolt sinclair you're doing it wrong.
why are we pretending rem heals a lot with tag along now?
>>566415903>burst healing 1k is..............le low actually!
>>566414925Mirage yet, hes absolute cancer with his count shit the immortality, but for geist i think the only real good thing is the ult which is obnoxious as fuck to deal with but i dont think that strong
>>566416121>what is antihealingKelvin, Mcginnis and Dynamo all heal far better than Rem and Rem's burst is only on the first person he jumps on, his overall healing is shit and not why he's strong.
>>566416308Its the ult + gun + lifedrain combo that makes her aids and cock and ball torture to deal withThe bomb is the worst part of her kit ironically enough, its so funny seeing people int with it.
>>566416401somewhat valid THOUGHBEVER in 95% of games no one buys antiheal because why would they buy that when they can buy le epic trophy collector and golden egg instead?
>>566416495golden egg is based howeverthoughbeit
>>566416495Maybe in shitlow
i swear when i play lash all my 2 man ults win the game and all my 4 man ults get me killed
>>566416651that's what i said, in 95% of games
>>566416495decay and toxic bullets are infinitely betterantiheal is just dead stats in a snowball meta
>when the nigga cook up his own build instead of going L>R
>>566411993I never know when to sell items and which onesEven with something like trophy collector I feel like the extra range I stacked is too important to get rid of
>>566403998Don't forget he also gives every single person an extra charge and stamina!Overstatted piece of shit abiltiy lmao. I said to yoshi 2 years ago it was retarded it gave any buffs at all and it by itself is insane and he reworks it to be even more oppressive.
>>566416495>Toxic Bullets - core item for gun>Spirit Burn - core item for spirit>Inhibitor - core item for dickheads who want you punish you>Healbane - budget reductionyou're guaranteed to see multiples of the first three items each game
>>566417664This could literally be an ult itself Dynamo is so stacked its absolutely crazy how he hasn't been nuked from orbit Graves was good for a week Viscous was good for like two weeks before they orbital bombarded them both what makes Dynamo so special I seriously have no idea
>>566407738realistically how much can you mitigate bumping into them don't they just get queued everywhere in EU
>>566406115if you get a russian abrams on your team just afk its crazy just how often it is that a russian abrams will charge in get parried get slaughtered repeat this and then either seethe in all chat or just rage quit
>>566417664its funny because they could make holliday's jump pad cleanse + 1 stam for allies on a 20s cooldown (not even make him invincible) and she would still be shit
All 4 of Dynamo's abilities could be ults but for some reason he hasn't been touched oh wait they gave him a gulps one whole second on quantum entanglement D:
>>566415593Do I just settle with more direct shots? I feel like I'm missing a lot of bolts trying to be fancy with it.
>>566417212There's better items than TC late game. Like I'll sell my TC for Cheat Death in this Ivy build late for instance. Avoiding death becomes more important than sprint speed and like 10% ability range.
>>566417664One time a paradox in my team did a really good swap that got all the enemies only for dynamo to press 2 and ruin the whole thing
>>566413712My favourite is getting talked down to by an e5/e6 player when I'm e2 solo queue support as if our climbs were remotely comparable.
>>566403337>>566405132not passive
>>566418410You literally cant do anything if Dynamo is present>Dynamo has ult?>cant do urns cant do mid boss>Dynamo's in the area?>can't afflict cant lash ult cant lasso can't do jack shit
>be in Seeker>teammates fight for urn, keep waves fixed all game, leave base after we get phase 2, never let up the lead by getting caught solo doing something stupidWe are the team on the other side, anon. We're coming for you.
>>566418142What's even more funny about that is that they could do that and people would scream their fucking head off about it. Imagine if ivy ult dispelled the person she picks up instead of giving them a shield. People would cry about that too.
>>566418713your teammates are all victims of russians throwing constantly deranking them from emissary to seeker
>>566418264It should be legitimately double the cooldown it is right now.
>silver player has trans shit in their name
>>566419001"the sky is blue" ass postall silver players are disgusting trannies that should be beheaded in the public square
>port block everything but the UK server>suddenly go on a 6 win streak cause games are normal
I swear Dynamo is one of those experiments that Icefrog does every so often, where a character is so obviously broken in all regular matchmaking but is practically a wasted slot in competitive play.
buff parriesremove meleebuff resto locket so I get passive stacks for soul gen to counter spirit aoe nuke slop
>>566419225im thinking of bouncing to the Milan server so I can avoid these russians
I HUG YOU
>>566349991>>566413712I just hope one of the statistics is urn dunks because I should be e6 by now if it were
>>566395215game sometimes feels very playable soloand then very unplayable in solo, when the enemy team happens to have a duo, trio, or the whole fuckin team is in a stack togetherthe coordination between a team that knows each other and a team that doesn't is very obvious
>>566419530I love when he says this it's just too cute :)
>get put into high ascendant game>team mates communicate, roam, back when they need to, react to macro pressure, listen to my shot calling>get put into an eternus game of any sort>immediately no comms, one team is chain feeding out of their fucking minds and it's literally just coin toss matchmaking with no counter buys>people could be 40k down and think they 'have to' show up to an urn fight instead of taking a walker for free and looking for solo picks or somethingOkay they seriously need to start putting nothing but eternus players into eternus lobbies cause it's getting so old looking at an e4 lobby and it's literally some complete garbage like>Phantom>Oracle>Ascendant>Ascendant>Eternus 2>Eternus 6Here's your 'eternus 2 lobby' bro.
>>566419280Seven is in the same boat
>>566419513What makes you think milan would make you dodge them more? I'm curious.
>>566419743>>Phantom>>Oracle>>Ascendant>>Ascendant>>Eternus 2>>Eternus 6That's the consequences of letting any rank queue up with any other rank
>>566401631drafts
>>566408179billy has the easiest time farming by far of any of those characters and thus has the easiest time coming back from behind because he has unlimited ammo against creeps and one of the best dps guns in the game when they're 2 feet in front of you
>>566419694anecdotally I think the game purposefully gives you turbo shitters if you stack to counter this, this week was probably the first time since january my duo and I had a random not go 0/15 in a 3 game stretch.
>le man of free stuns, infinite mobility, and 500 spirit damage burst with 1 point invested
>>566401631>>566419958No draft on release.
It has been more then a month since they nerfed both of graves's builds(spirit summoner & gungrave overdose) I'm starting to think yoshi intends for graves to be a bottom of the barrel throwpick same way he intends for dynamo to be good at everything everywhere
>Spirit Victor somehow, somehow, SOMEHOW, dies 6 times in lane to Drifter, because he keeps meleeing and getting parried over and over and over
>>566420898you're going to lose anyways if he's playing full spirit shit is ass
>>566419743>>566419918I would rather wait 20 minutes for a secure solo queue of my own rank than instantly queue up for whatever cancerslop the algo has cooked up for me. That's what the "competitive matchmaking" should be
hello I am from the future the next hero will have these abilities:1. spirit aoe + debuffs2. instant cast movement ability + buffs3. press 3 to deal extra damage by holding m1 + debuffs4. 3.5 second long cc ult + debuffs (61 second cd)
>>566413712just nuke ranks at this point ffs
>>566417809And when Dynamo got changes, they were the slightest nerfs that didn't do shit to address his busted ass kit.The fact that balancing in this game relies on the whims of the devs, one day going "hey, let's nerf this character into dust," and another going "let's not give nearly any fucks about how strong this character is, no matter how vocal anyone is about it", is genuinely insane.What the fuck is the point of public feedback when the devs just end up ignoring 50-60% of it anyway? It's so goddamn bizarre.And then, ALL OF A SUDDEN, LIKE MAGIC, if the game's player-base ever starts tanking? OUR PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED FROM GOD HIMSELF. Suddenly all the changes we were vocal about from the beginning finally get addressed. "Pushing the limits of the game's design" will inevitably backfire in their dumbass faces on occasion, and it's always a joy to watch; seeing them add community suggestion after community suggestion, because >OH SHIT WE NEED LE GAME TO BE PROFITABLE IN THE FUTURE FUCK FUCK FUCK NO COME BACK!!!!! WE'LL MAKE IT FUN AGAIN WE PROMISE COME BAAAAAA
>>566420898A Billy player's soul in the body on a Victor player...
>>566421658>What the fuck is the point of public feedback when the devs just end up ignoring 50-60% of it anyway?Because people tend to repeat the most popular bits and pieces of feedback for a game, no matter how grounded-in-reality or true it is. If the devs listened 100% of the time, all of the characters would be unplayable from how weak they'd feel. This is why Valve has always traditionally gotten feedback from one person at a time before developing Deadlock. But Valve's never done this sort of thing before, where each participating tester has access to another tester's opinions, so it ends up as a lot of "democratic" voting, where people mindlessly agree with something if it *seems* to be the best answer for one specific piece of feedback; *seems*, is not always the same as *is*.
guh???? didn't he get nerfed this patch?
deadlock characters be like>hmm I must calculate the exact amount of souls I have, the items I might need for counterbuy. Does lash have ult? is there a dynamo on the left lane? if so, I will need to adjust my strategy in order to->presses one or two of their number keys and wins every scenario they're inIt's starting to feel like I'm playing overwatch desu
>Spirit Bebop>Spirit Victor>Melee Abrams>Gun Rem>HollidayWhat are some other "oh fuck I have a retard on my team moments"
broke ass Reddit dadgamer hero
>>566423613you can tell who gabe's favorite is
i will NEVER build gun graves no matter who the government sends
>>566423601pretty much any character with a melee-oriented build, expect billy desu
>>566421658>What the fuck is the point of public feedback when the devs just end up ignoring 50-60% of it anyway? It's so goddamn bizarre.I'm not even asking for them to hear the public out since the "public" is fucking retarded with people to this day crying about grave's autoaim and saying she's broken. I'm asking them to actually use their brains and look at the data, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that a character like dynamo who has a 10(now 14) second CD cleanse+teleport+I-frame ability is fucking broken, and it's even worse when you look at the rest of his kit where he has a very busted damaging ability, one of the strongest CCs in the game and a fucking heal on top of all that. Like genuinely just build dynamo like a tank and never use your ult/stomp and i guarantee you that you'll be able to tank as much as abrams if not better, genuinely just log in rush witchmail and you can run across the map for several minutes before you die because this shit is just that busted.At that point i genuinely want to understand what's the fucking idea? Like what is vision for this character who can just do everything?
>>566423613Bro just jump over his stomp lolBro just counterspell that shit lolOk but seriously though Yamato is a bullshit character in her own right purely because of her point and click grapple that can teleport through walls
>>566423814confirmed gorth
>>566423613Dynamo is one of the most retarded heroes i've ever seen and I've played DBD since it first came out
>>566423854how do you build and play billy?
>>566423601Full purple anybody that buys leech instead of infuser. Or full orange anybody that buys leech instead of vampiric burst
Silver being your lane partner!Silver getting drunk after losing the ritual!Silver crying sitting with you about how now she's going to be homeless!Silver getting even more drunk!Silver letting her impulses take control!Silver raping you!
>>566423737actually according to joeschmuck Sheev is Yoshi's favourite character
>>566423921take your thread nameschizos and shove it in your bum
>>566424061b-b-but active too hard to use...
ADD A FUCKING DRAFT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
>>566423601Spirit GeistSpirit BillyGun Apollo
>>566416308>geist i think the only real good thing is the ultlolnoThe ult is great yeah, but a good Geist doesn't use it much because she tends to win most of her exchangesLaning her abilities give her huge damage and sustain, mid-game she can use bomb to farm super easily, late-game she's built gun and has a shitload of sustainTrying Geist made me mad because a fight had to be stacked HARD against me for me to lose. I could literally just press my lifesteal button and I would trade better than a silver doing everything she could to focus me.So then I thought about how almost every Geist I see sells unbelievably and I'm kind of salty about it.
>>566424262you were the paradox this is your fault also theres no Dynamo there so I dont know what you're complaining about
>>566423972>I'M DOIN' IT!>I'M DOIN' IT!>I'M DOIN' IT!>IT'S YOU OR ME!>I'M DOIN' IT!>I'M DOIN' IT!>I'M DO
>>566423613yamato's slash has one of the highest spirit scaling abilities in the game though.I agree with the point generally, but, come on.
>>566424262>playing paradoxYou wanted to lose
>>566424262paradox thriower
>>566424423>Playing like absolute shit>Fed in lane and way behind on farm>This fucker still does out of his way to chase me down and only ult me in a teamfightWHYI DIDN'T EVEN LANE AGAINST YOU
>>566424457It's actually dodgeable though, unlike what Dynamo downplayers say about his stomp>BRO JUST JUMP OVER THE LANEWIDE MOVE WITH PRACTICALLY INSTANT CAST TIME
>>566424637https://vocaroo.com/1mp0awgQZwup
>>566423601echo shard wardengun sinclairgun paradoxspellslinger on anyone other than geistgun doormansevens who unlock stun 1stgun spike on shivbuying any other green than max stamina on talon
Reminder that Dynamo GODS run this general
>>566424637break the weakest enemies mental and they will feed and/or dc for a free win
>Hollidayhave to aim barrel usually you have to expend a jump pad to get a proper barrel downward angle to hit the person up BARELY and do 200 damage your two can be used by enemies your 3 is a meme and your 4 is practically useless because something like fucking doorman's cart can interrupt it>Dynamopress one to clear an entire wave hit people into the air, slow them, remove bullet resists do 9000 damage and even if they have resists they'll get slowed down enough for someone else to kill them this can go 9000000 km ahead and go through practically any object on a hero with 3 base stamina (for some reason) and a fuck huge health pool with a heal that makes him move at mach speed and a teleport that removes debuffs, gives you stamina and gives you charges back WITH an ult that everyone has to play around non stophow the devs look at this and go "yep sounds good to me." is crazy
>>566424305>Spirit Billy>Look this up>First build is by a tranny
>>566425092All of the top Billy builds are ass ngl, I made my own and my winrate skyrocketed.
>>566424767Spellsinger on Holliday is kinda decent actually since crackshot triggers it
>>566424423>>566424637>>566424798https://vocaroo.com/1dMwHWjYTXQY
>>566424457Power Slash could have 3x spirit scaling and it would still be outpaced by Kinetic Pulse by sheer virtue of instantly hitting an entire team for ___ damage with a single castyou'll be lucky to hit one enemy hero with a fully-charged Power Slash, let alone two
how to fix he game:>lower spirit damage by 50%>lower m1 damage by 30%make it so you need to AIM to win in a SHOOTER gam
I'm so fucking sick of trannies.
>>566425570Ignore them unless you're NA then lol shouldn't have gotten psyopped
>>566424661>>566425269As i said, i agree with the point>3× spirit scalingFuck no, that would be pre nerf mirage tier cancer
>>566425570Have you tried not being a CIA psy-oped loser who goes out of his way to make himself mad online?
>>566425570Here, enjoy this mod https://gamebanana.com/mods/665115
>>566425493>make it so you need to AIM to win in a SHOOTER gamTHAT'S RACIST! I'm Haze and I press 4 and instakill you with my magic DEI shooting powers!
>Seven flips out and calls me a faggot after I cart him into our walker>take the opportunity to tilt him further so we can win easier>patronizingly start asking about his life and what's hurting him>he rants about how his swimming instructor raped him several times as a child>people start disconnecting after that
>>566425932so thats why seven became gay and evil
>>566425876Calico is not a m1 character lmao who made this?
>>566425932yts lol
>>566425932jesus christ
>>566425079The sadest part for me is that the devs are fully aware of dynamo's current broken state, they nerfed graves in a patch literally dedicated to fucking her over so clearly they can do the same for dynamo and they did include him in the last patch but it was an irrelevant 3 extra seconds of cooldown on only 1 of his abilities, even fucking ivy didn't last this long without nerfs and she's still strong as fuck
>>566425876More proof that Venator is the most honest m1gger, he actually has to aim his ult
>>566426127youtube shorts?
>>566426136Good. Graves deserves to be nerfed into the ground to the point where no one plays her.
>>566419743statlocker said my eternus 2 account was ascendant 3 until i clicked a recalibrate button and then it said it was eternus 6 if you're using tracker websites to determine rank its just bunk
>>566426136I just dont get their thought process Viscous was good for what? 2 weeks? Nerfed straight to D tier Dynamo has been an issue for MONTHS and has barely gotten anything I genuinely want to know the dev's thought process when it comes to nerfing and buffing the next patch will probably break infernus again
>>566426456Gimmick disrupt characters piss people off (Doorman, Viscous) so they're not allowed to exist
>>566426456>who is yoshi and gabe's favorites?>...>okay, now who isn't yoshi and gabe's favorites? those ones we're allowed to balance
I'm scared to play the main game. I wish I wasn't this much of a coward.My fear is that I get a bad lane matchup, and then I feed or something, and I fall behind in souls
>>566426772you are afraid of the inevitableaccept the fact that shit like that will always happen, and that you shouldn't mind it when it does; just focus at improving your game skill and game sense
>>566426772no one gives a shit>but people will flame youmute them who cares? this is a pre alpha
>>566427334>rem gets murdered>his helpers just jump around and dont give a shitthey're his slaves arent he?
>>566425493>SHOOTER gamMoba first shooter second, you faggots say this shit yet no one plays holiday or vindicta
>>566427457they actually defend his corpse and attack anyone that gets close
>>566427463how do I get good at the moba strategy for this game
>>566427654literally look at the map I fucking swear there's some medical condition where people are unable to see the minimap how the fuck cant you? it takes up like 30% of the screen yet there'll be someone doing a jungle next to a walker being attacked all you have to do is look at the map not even kidding look at it a lanes about to be pushed stop doing jungle go defend it thats it
>>566427853to be honest there is so much other shit going on on my screen that the minimap feels too small of a priorityI got QOL lock so I can have a bigger minimap, but still, it feels like I have to constantly have it in the middle of the screen or I don't know what the fuck's happening
>retarded team jerking off in mid when enemy is missing 2 and we can take a favored urn>call them retarded>they call me stupid>reversal and flame the shit out of them for playing like ass>everyone goes quiet>minna goes "report mo for toxicity " at the last second of the loss screenyeah, typical mandated loss
>>566426315>Good. Dynamo deserves to be nerfed into the ground to the point where no one plays him.ftfy
>>566427463>no one plays holiday or vindictai get a holliday greifing my game consitatently every 1/3 games
>>566423613Most annoying part about power slash is the damage dropoff isn't actually gradual, you always deal a signifcant fixed % less damage even if you release it when it's almost full.
>>566428195If my team goes mid I just go do urn I dont know why people think they need the ENTIRE team to destroy midboss when the majority of the enemy is respawning
>ascendant 1>solo mm command on>50/50 if I get full comm teams or full on mute russian bots browlin for 30 minutesthis happens with extra competitve on and off, wtf should I even put it on feels like it does fuckalljust jumpin up and down asc1-asc2-asc1, hell my main even dropped to phantom 5 which has the highest hidden mmr so I stopped playin on it cauz it was putting me in fucking oracle 6 lobbies
>>566428483>I dont know why people think they need the ENTIRE team to destroy midbossprobably because a lot of pisslow players try to solo midboss one time, die, then suddenly think the avengers have to assemble every time mid boss spawns
>>566426315Why?
Seven can solo mid boss so if your seven isnt soloing mid boss he's throwing and you should report him
>apparently biofem deadlock players dont buy actives because they have long fingernails and can't press the buttonsthis game is so fucking over
>>566429005How is that apparent?
>>566428884Mo&krill can solo midboss too
i wonder if nintendo, a company known for sueing everyone, would be interseted that a valve developer is using their intellectual property as the face of deadlock
>push lane all the way to waker>entire team is on the other side of the map>someone shows up to stop my push and kills all my minions>keep trying to push walker, but know that if we can't get a walker soon, or if the enemy team decides to push this lane with no one here, that no one's going to care until it's too late and now we're down a walker>another person shows up, my minions just get obliterated and now I'm pushed halfway across the whole lanegenuinely what the fuck does one do here
>>566424262yeah add draft so we can avoid paradorks
if you're eternus 6 then you will understand what i'm saying.silver is among the hardest characters in the game because it requires tremendous finesse to survive while building up her ult. you could have the perfect silver game, if you mess up once in a later fight... you're done. and there's a misconception that all you need to do to go into ult is hit one combo or so, wrong. you need like half the bar full in the first place. it's not impossibly hard, but it requires finesse.then even if you get into gorilla form, it's still not free. in a cast of minas, celestes, dynamos, shivs, vins and gts, i mean fuck it dude the list goes on. her ult isn't that crazy. it's almost as if the game was made with silver first, then everyone after. what i mean by this is that everyone's kit was clearly designed to run away from silver.but it doesn't stop at built in kits, just about every item counters silver. disarm her, stop her movement, stop her from swinging.if a silver wins, they earned it. that's all im saying.
I dont even think Silver players know when she says something like "its happening..." you can press 4 to instantly trigger it instead of waiting for it to trigger by itself
>>566425876Haze is so easily counterable that despite being a m1gger I don't view her with scorn, but pity. I've lost count of how many games the Haze just falls off once people get metal skin (which often counters multiple other enemies).>yeah but what if she curses youShe won't.
>>566429741>hello, I know how to play the game. silver is not s tier>>um akrturally silver is still s++ tier!!! deadlock eternus jewtubers said so!!!"
>>566429895i mean jews rule europe and the US so they probably are better educated on how good silver is as well
>>566429878I just disarm her and slide around her as Viper
>>566429568Remember when this Seven kept pushing side lane, and you'd show up to fix it every time, but one time you made the mistake of joining one (1) teamfight, and on cue he shows up to push the walker again, but this time, the one person who had the presence of mind to fix was off fighting, so you lose the walker?You're the guy pushing this time. Keep trying.
>>566429741>if you're eternus 6 then you will understand what i'm saying.Stopped reading right there, next time don't start your post with a retarded "ackshually only gay people disagree with my opinion s..so you have to agree with me!!1!" faggot
I'm eternus btw
in 2024 there were effectively no roles and you had to build every kind of item due to restricted slots. sure some characters were better at some things over others, but there was a lot more variety. now, every build is the same, every item is the same, there are roles in everything but name. the next update they will absolutely 100% categorize the cast into specific roles, which is why they've been asking those questions in the daily feedback section. rolequeue soon
rank: seekermain: silverstatus: trans puppygirl diaperfur :3
im retarded 5 btw
Vindicta is such a tranny character holy shit everybody who plays her should be raped and killed
>game uses basic ragdolls instead of bodies being evaporated, burned to death, exploded etclazy
silver covering me head to toe in stinky dog piss and forcing me to thouroughly clean her fortune cookie with my tongue afterwards
>game uses basic ragdolls instead of bodies being evaporated, burned to death, exploded etckino
>>566431456
>>566423613>THIRTY SIX BASE RANGEjesus
Is the general always like this?Recently started playing deadlock and decided to take a peak here.
>>566431747Dynamo downplayers will say that's honest and you can easily just jump over it
>>566431851We're in a patch drought right now, please understand
>>566431851it's peek retard
>Curses you>YOU WILL BE JUDGED>You instantly dieWhen is this noskill character getting her ult reworked?
>>566432103just dash behind her lmfaoalso its a joke that curse doesn't silence stamina
>Rank doesn't go up with victories>Rank goes down with defeatsIf they added a score based MMR system, can they at least make it visible ingame? There's literally no point in playing ever since their rank "fixes"
>>566425179A lot of characters have top builds made by retarded youtubers so they can be very gimmicky or dogshitEverytime I see a build that says "DON'T L-R THINK ABOUT IT" and it's just 15 items in a row with no annotations to explain when and why you should take what, I know even if the items are good the person making it sucks at making builds for other people
can someone help translate "TRANS NIGGER RAPER" into russian? I want to use it as my steam name since russian isn't censored apparently. i asked chatgpt but the woke site temp banned me for 24 hours and told me if i continued it would be perm banned
>>566432483тpaнc нeгp изнacилoвaтeльslava trans rights slava bbc
>9 losses in a row
>enemy lane is paradox + warden both blatant smurf accounts>other two lanes are postured to win>paradox dies once>instantly abandons and the game isn't countedwooooo yippeeeeeee
>>566432483Just have it be Summer in Donbas to remind them where they're going soon.
>>566432874how is that even possible after 2 losses i usually get an eomm free win where the enemy team has both rem + paradox
>>566432467>Playing with my duo>He turns this into a "let's teach his friend the game" >His friend asks what build to use on his character>I say look up "annotated">He says "just pick a top daily">His friend picks the path of least resistance and picks a top daily L-R build>I'm the one that has to actually explain shit in the end >His friend learns nothing from the bot game we did >I leave and they immediately do standard >His friend goes 0/22 as Billy with 8k player damage in a 40 min game
>>566433181his friend probably got placed into archon 5
>>566432483>"TRANS NIGGER RAPER"This is the type of humor Russians would like though, do what this guy >>566432943 said instead
>>566432467A lot of the top daily builds are also botted to hell. It's how a single person can take up all of the top daily slots (looking at you, Viscous and McGinnis) and how the Tracklock AI generated builds are always the top build on every single character
>>566424164mina...
What are the most fun heroes?
>>566433505>Viscous and McGinnis>Take a look>It's a brony and a tranny respectively taking up half the top daily with builds that have minor differences at most and could've just been annotated sections in a proper build), and in the case of the brony he throws half the items in the game into the "optional" section with no annotations
>>566417962i went against a russian abrams today who couldn't stop feeding in lane then proceeds to shit talk us in broken english for the rest of the game hahahaha, these people are so bad when they aren't toggling their soft cheats
>>566434373+1 upvote
>>566432913>lvl1 steam acc mina with 10 matches played somehow convinces our team to do midboss 13 minutes into the game, in ritualist, while enemy dynamo has ult ready>13 minute midboss>in ritualist>while they have dynamo ult up>enemy gets midboss and mina instantly disconnects, "it's safe to leave", everyone else leavescan't even be mad at such kinography
IT'S JUST A PHASE BROS NEVER GIVE UP
>>566434759I really want to bite the bullet and play supports, I'm tired of being the carry
>>566434759>all those different heroesYou either one trick or accept that you're never ranking up.
>>566434854I don't give a shit about rank and it's boring playing the same hero over and over
>>566435449gen alpha red40 adhd brain
>>566434854I exclusively pick random and I've been rising pretty quickly through the ranksStill only in Emissary 4 though, and I can't aim to save my life no matter who I play
>>566435951Just play Victor, Abrams, Haze, and Dynamo if you can't aim. The former two are "Hold W" and the latter two are "press 4 to win"
>>566436251ah yes haze the humble 45% wr press 4 to win
>>566434854In that entire list, only Haze, Vyper and Shiv I don't play. The rest I play very often
Literally just buff towers, what the absolute fuck is Valve afraid of? Are they afraid of their precious retard high ranks having to THINK about risks before diving in?
>>566436340>only winrates in high ranks matter
>>566436703Literally no game should be balanced towards pure competitive. It doesn't fucking work, most games that tried, failed miserably at it.
epic
>>566432967The reason might surprise you. I'm dogshit at the game.___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>566435951you don't need to aim for mlst characters, the game is very forgiving in that regard
>>566436957HOW DEAD IS THIS GAME IN EUROPE 10 minutes of waiting as fucking holliday priority
Mirage feels pretty useless until I get ricochet, am I playing him wrong or what?I have great sustain from scarabs + mystic regen but I do pitiful damage and rely on tornado to clear waves, until I get ricochet that is
>>566437073You know a shitter made this list because they think Geist takes no aim because they're in the rank people play Spirit Geist
>>566436569They nerfed towers because games take forever in 99% of ranks... but the games still last forever even with towers that die from a breeze of wind, because nobody knows how to end games without a massive soul advantage
>>566437073No matter which character, if you can't aim you lose laneAnd if you lose lane, you're automatically predisposed to lose games
>>566437858graves
>>566417664>Broken clock eventually proven right.This shit gave gun stats back then. No wonder Yoshi wrote you off as a retard 2 years ago.
>>566437752I wasn't really talking about HP, I'm talking about damage. Die to a light breeze all they want IF you have a decent wave pushed up, but if an enemy tries to stand under it, let the tower fuck their shit up instead of being 100% safe.
Learnig to play lash is such a frustrating experiance i can't fathom how this high skill floor hero is in the same game with so many other braindead picksJust getting the hang of ground strike is bullshit. You get on a high ground and cast it, thinking you will land where UI points to and yet you get fucked by terrain and completely miss your one damage dealing ability, a slight change in elevation and your damage is null and yet there is infernus's dogshit ult that works vertically no matter how fucking high above him you are, he just fucking casts it and all he has to worry about is if they are in the circle, also they can just jump when expecting you, then i look at bebop's fuckass hook with hitbox that is size of a fucking log with range and speed making it almost guaranteed hit, also 0 risk for bebophis ult is also a joke, you have no idea what's the area of effect until you cast it, you still have to lock on and hope they dont hide in time, then i look at yamato's hook which allows her to go through walls no matter how much distance you gain from her and how many obsticles are between you and her, also they can just cast their iframes after you land or mokrill can just pick you with their ult. Probably the most inconsistant ult in the entire fucking gameEven if you have refresher you can't do full combo cuz your ground strike still will be on cd. Grapple is another ability i have problem with. It is so situational but mina can just iframe after dealing 3k damage in 0.5sAnd lastly the fucking matchups, everyone has answers to him especially in lane. They can either use their kit or just stay at their guardian.Whoever is in charge of kit design and balance is doing a shit job and everyone is clapping, jerking their dicks to this shitLash is fun but learning him is the most miserable experiance known to man. I dont know how long i can keep on pulling my fucking hair out any time i cast any of his abilities. Spirit is a meme and yoshi is a hack
>lash>the char with braindead mobility that doesnt even need to aim his 2>hardlmao
I want to pin Graves down and fill her womb with my seed every day for the rest of my life
>>566438284Spirit is so fucking dogshit. The fate of virtually all games relies on which m1gger gets fed the most, Apollo could go 20/0 and it doesn't matter because spirit resist is much more effective than bullet resist
>>566438451She's below the age of consent (30 years old) you SICK FUCK
sex with Graves
>>566389807I wish I could track this well but playing at 140 ping against schizomovers makes it so fuckin hard
remove movement cheats
gunslop killed deadlock
>>566439056Anon... I don't want to enjoy feeding her.
Siphoning or vamp burst on silver?
>>566440263Vampiric for the extra ammo for sure
>>566438652i would agree with this if EE didnt exist. burst characters have a hard time with spirit resist but characters who can stack EE dont even care about resistances. Even characters with little way to proc EE like apollo and yamato use torment pulse and can rotate their skills so they can keep pressure and stacks. lash is one of those extremely few characters that cant effectively use EE so he just gets fucked damage wise. its why everyone is building him gun
>>566440263neither
remove guns go back to cod
>0/4 yamato easily kills me under walkerKEK holy shit this game is still so fucking bad
>>566440938outmacro'd
>>566371508im tired of wraith dominating every game i am, she do terrible in every fight but somehow turn up with 20k+ souls on everyone
I want wraith deleted from the game
*teleports through walls to you with my point and click grapple*psshhh.... nothin personnel... gaijin *turns on my epic anime powers that make me glow red and instakills you*
https://youtu.be/RJvzuCKmhp8?si=fVc_Gl12RCnfWuseIs it just me or has Deadlock capture some of that soul we used to see in games of old? The fanart is so charming even the cringey tween-tier stuff
I WANT THEM TO BURN
>>566441775Why is this ship so popular?
its a shame this game is a dogshit moba because its otherwise amazing
>>566442452street brool is better anyway. 40 minutes of your life dont go down the drain because a russian abrams went 0/10 in lane
>>566442372because its canon?
>>566441775fanart if whatever meme is trending on twitter or redditif you think that's "soul", I don't know what to tell you
>>566442372Bro you have one of the most popular ships in the game being Silver/Celeste when 2/3rds of their interactions are them hating each other but one has them hanging out for a drink after the fight (she has the same interaction with Venator but is only rarely paired with him).Mina/Pocket has 100x more going for them.
>>566438284not worth playing lash when there's a 50% chance dynamo is in the enemy team
>>566438284lash becomes irrelevant the moment you buy counterspell and even more so if dynamo is on the other team than him, dynamo 2 counters his whole kit. however lash will continue to only get nerfed since his ult has extreme potential and he is a low elo terrorist since shitters don't even know counterspell exists
>>566441775>the original song has 20 million viewswhat the actual fuck fuck all underage retards im starting to become a boomer
>>566443027This. Lash is only playable if you have a duo with you that's got Dynamo as his highest prio
new ritualists when
new champions when
new walkers when
>>566441775strange as it may be, MOBAs attract a lot of fun content creatorsLoL, DotA, HotS, Deadlock - regardless of any shortcomings, they all have had a number of meme makers just having a good time and being goofysome games just have that 'vibe'
sex gamemode when
Did you guys know Paige = page(like in a book)
did you know a werewolf named silver is like a vampire named onion
Does the team try to pair you up with shitter teammates the more you win?
da dahknis cums fer dem!bleded ta boo!
I've been enjoying support Paige but sometimes my team are beyond support.
Rank characters from most to least agency
>>566443831isn't that garlicthe ogre would be named onion
this character is easywhy are people struggling?
>walkers>they don't walk
>>566445795>why are people struggling?bad top daily builds that make you do shit like build melee
>Necromancer character>Graves>Temperature character>Kelvin>Fire character>Infernus>Sleep character>Rem>Goat character>Billy>Knife character>ShivDoes Valve really?
>>566445943I built 4.8k green before anything else, just killed my lane opponents a couple times then roamed around to kill all the other ones. Then thankfully my team wasn't retarded and that spiraled into a win.
im having more fun playing doorman compared to victor and it feels like cheating
>dynamo stealth buffthanks yoshi
>>566423854ivy gets away with melee oriented builds because she has a HMC built in that also will stun the fucker. also global presence and slows help a lot. I actually go for a 4800 spike on her with superior duration hex just to have utility outside of unga bunga melee. and the benefit is that you don't get memed on by warp stones all game.
>>566446652embrace the tumblrman
>>566446671I see way too many dynamos ulting in a victor blast zone. I'm in ascendant
>>566430641>in 2024 there were effectively no rolesPeople being bad and not acknowledging the simple fact that there was limited resources on the map and some heroes scale better than others doesn't mean there wasn't support players in 2024. There were. I've been playing since June 2024 and supports were rare but that's just down to idiots not understanding they're playing a moba and there will ALWAYS be limited resources and naturally, funneling them into a strong character will always be a winning strategy in these types of games.
>>566446671dynamo players are boosted
>>566432246>also its a joke that curse doesn't silence staminaI build curse basically every game and think this would be retarded.
>>566446770ayo cracka sweet as a sugar plum
>>566446089>Healer character>Medic>Large character>Heavy>Building character>EngineerOr here, we can try something less obvious>Knight that transforms into a dragon>Dragon Knight
>>566438096The sheer fact it gives team wide immunity to massive ults and relocates people 21 fucking meters away might give you pause for thought. That alone is ridiculously powerful on such a cooldown. So yes, it giving massive ammo + ROF buffs was indeed fucking retarded. Especially when you consider how much stronger m1 was at the time. But sure dude pretend like this skill needs anything beyond relocating and making team mates immune to ults through walls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcQJSN5Dk0sif you don't remember this being the lobby theme you're a new fag redditor bandwagoner
>>566447438yeah those are literally their jobs
>>566441558I bitched about the T2 grapple being point and click crossmap that works even without direct LOS and giving FOURTY FUCKING SPIRIT POWER and three retards retorted with 'u play ivy tho' meanwhile ivy is literally 49% winrate in e4+
if you don't remember this being the training grounds you're a new fag redditor bandwagoner
>>566447624Uhhh, no??They're mercenaries??
>>566444437paige genuinely feels more helpless than ivy support. paige gets an easier laning phase by far but she feels less immediately useful. it's all drawn out and if your teams too retarded to turn around when 3 people focus you it's just over.
>>566447813your post sucks
>play dynamo>winGame hasn't even released yet and it's already solved.
>>566448096Medic hands wrote this post
so whose responsibility is it to get double sinners at 8? i'm assuming not the carry since it's safer for them to just soak solo farm in lane
>>566448981Rem
>>5664382843rd easiest character in the game btw
>>566446652not surprising, victor is the most boring character and it's not close at all
Who tryna q w Reiko doe
rate my drifter play
>>566450081too based to win
>>566448707What was medic's kit?
we're lucky shiv has a high skill cap because he literally has 0 counters
Victor's greatest weakness is his playerbase thinking they're literally unkillable instead of only practically.
>>566447585Dynamo spent most of those two years being straight up dogshit but sure lets not pretend march patch didn't exist.Starting to doubt your status as anything other than some tranny who installed yesterday after seeing a silver celeste shipslop artwork on X formerly know as twitter.
>>566450875He used to actually be unkillable for like 2 weeks in March, their egos haven't lowered down to normal levels
>>566371707Women shouldn't be able to parry men.And men should auto-parry women.It breaks my immersion!
I'M DOING IT
>They're in stasis! Tech won't hurt them!
>>566451449they took this cyberpunk kino from us
What's with the uptick in Drifter players in the general?
>>566451609easy to play, no need to farm or care about macro, can permafightaka mr marvel rivals
>>566451609We're in the permabrool trophy collector meta and he's the character that takes advantage of it the hardest
>>566450928>Dynamo spent most of those two years being straight up dogshityep definitely a tourist, fuck off larper
>>566452027>Urm actually he was strong in my initiate pisslow gamesIvy regularly had 55% wr during those days. Strong dynamo is an invention of modern day nu deadlock powercreep.
>>563575783 YOOOOO IM HIGH RANK NOW
>>566384627Yes
>See Holliday on your team>Instantly know your chances of winning just dropped
>>566391461There are literally so many samie heroes now that i think the whole sub should be locked till further notice. 2024 and esrly 2025, okay, but now all posts are the same type of hero, themes, abilities, etc, without anyone taking a step back and checking, yes, checking the forums to see what ideas have been posted and not. People use to lurk, get info, then make posts. Now people NEED to get their idea out even if its not original without bothering to check ahead. Its a shit hole with no moderation.
>>566452298>>Urm actually he was strong in my initiate pisslow gamesI was playing in the top lobbies in 2024. But whatever.
>>566430453Followed your advicebro everyone fucking forgets lol, you were 100% righttysm anon
>>566452917Did any hero concept from the forums actually get added to the game yet? Genuinely curious if this is why people are so rampant with custom hero conceptsThe only one I really fuck with is this one, 90% of hero concepts are dogshit or megadogshit
>>566453359khanzy...
>>566453359bring back old rejuv.
>>566453634Fencer as apollo I think
>>566451558>they took cybertojo slop from usand that's a good thing!
>>566453737It was more fun. I liked the layout better in general for midboss.
Why are people still playing gunrem?When will it end?Was quite worried we'd lose this match but I was just allowed to farm Rem and Graves for free over and over on a side lane and my team didn't job it.
>>566452298huh? gun dynamo was so good it got nerfed multiple times until his gun wasnt viable in the slightest
>>566453752https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-fencer-deadlocks-version-of-genji.60811/>apollo's custom hero concept design was originally ai generatedlol
i accidentally saw gay furry porn featuring mo's perfectly bleached asshole two weeks ago and havent played Deadlock since
>>566453634King in yellow is actually an awesome hero concept
>>5664538846.8k??? what did he even do?
>>566453884look at your rank brother
>>566454115he does lots of things :)
https://tryneus.github.io/deadmock/Make me sum good shit fellasoptionally, fix Deadlock too
>>566453634i really fuck with the cthulhu onehttps://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-concept-the-blight.107950/
>>566453634https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/support-hero-concept-frynd-leeman-an-inhuman-innkeeper.40606/
A shepherd protects the flock
>>566453984ummm ratcels? why did AI kino get into the game before our concept?
>>566454138My wife(paige) is dragging it down a bit.But even then, surely eventually people will realise it doesn't work.I haven't seen a pillownuke build in weeks.
>>566453984it's okay the matchmaking is ai generated too
>>566454298the cthulu one is also really fucking good, goddayumnhim not being able to say "thanks" is funny too
>tilted retard dies once in lane (literally the first death of the game at 10 minutes) and starts spamming gg, thank you and "let them end"Why don't people stop playing if they are obviously tiltedWe somehow won the game but the guy was going insane from minute 1
This is what Yamato will look like once Valve gets around to updating her model in 2027.
>>566454457pillownuke is also trash.gun is the only way to actually climb on rem while remaining an anal virgin (no duoing)
>>566454640>at 10 minutesat 1 minute*
>>566454640>Why don't people stop playing if they are obviously tiltedbecause this game's matchmaking sucks and people lose their fucking mind and tilt queue until they win but when they're unhinged...
>>566371612Calm down Mina!
I'm going to bed goodnight
>>566454669Finally, trans representation.
I actually managed to have a good Billy game for once, I think I'm getting better.I'd have gotten MVP if my team didn't have a McNiggings stealing kills
>>566455545Based Miku cucking furries
Is Seven supposed to have a wrinkled fucked up face or is he wearing a gown over it?
>>566453634a lot of ideas were put into all the new heroes, even some legos from brawl too. but people want to be the next "door man" for... attention??? i just want more heroes, heroes with interesting kits, not copy pasted shit like a lol champ. there are still a lot of good new ideas but i really do think they need to put a cap on it since.. there are like 4.5k threads, 15k messages where half of the authors "edit" or "make patch notes" to their heroes, what more do the devs want at this point? if they want more and creative ideas, its best to put a lid on the sub for a bit till they decide to thoroughly read things, while letting new and old posters do other things than recreate or add dialog to their threads. call me anal, idc
>>566454876Yeah but at least spirit scales rem's abilities and spamming pillows helps refresh his ult faster.
I keep removing heroes from my roster whenever I have bad string of losses on them.Now my roster is down to 3 heroes.
i hope rem dies without ever seeing his family again
>>566456478:(
>>566456445I am not good on ANY hero
You guys put more than 3 heros in the selection?I only choose 3: the one I want to play, one I wouldn't mind playing, and a metafaggot 60+% WR hero to trick the matchmaker into giving me what I want
>>566455807nigga I'm pretty sure he fried his body and soul or some shit like thathe is literally a burnt candle after frying his own body with electricity
>>566456883I just pick three support characters cause barely anyone actually wants to play them and just flex.
>>566456713I don't like picking any of my most played heroes. I haven't played Paradox, Shiv, or Grey Talon in months. But I don't like any of my lesser played ones, either.
god im such a fucking addict. i uninstalled 2 days ago to take a break after a horrid losing streak and every time i sit down at my pc i think " time to play some deadlock" Jesus christ is there a detox program for deadlock yet???
imagine if guardians could actually guard
>>566457243Are you me? Had such a bad string of games I threw for the first time in 1500 hours so I decided to take a breakGiving Marvel Rivals a try and all I can think of is "man I wish I was playing Deadlock instead"
they should add charges to yamato's 3 and spirit scaling to 1 range.
>>566457243Play with me and you'll never want to tpu3ch Deadlock ever again :)
>>566457435maybe ill get back into it to take the edge off losing to a stomp there doesnt feel anywhere near as bad
>>566453359https://litter.catbox.moe/uqtuslqlcbq02a8n.mp4
Just rework her already.
>tell team we need to finish early or the enemy victor will become unkillable>they don't listen>45 min match ends in a loss because victorTired of this hero design that's just a cohesion check. If I queue solo, and one team gets a Victor, just end the match right there so I can re-queue.
>>566457676Remove the autoain beam and give her a normal gun so autists will stop buying yellow items on her
>>566445795unplayable matchup into anyone that doesn't sit on the ground and let you land your 10 second combo (75% of the cast)
>>566457839just buy crippling headshot and spirit burn and decay and toxic bullets and curse him twice back to back (three if he bought refresher) and he's free
>>566457676Ummmm bubby you don't have to aim her gun so this character has to be unplayable for the rest of the game's life span ok? Do you not understand game design...?
>>566457839Why not tell your team to build anti-heal instead? He is hardly a threat once you have anti heal items, especially if the whole team has them
>got fed as Billy>mfw I walk towards an ulting Haze and cave her skull in while she tickles meSo, this is the power of the goat?
Yoshi, fix her shit I beg you!
>>566458025>>566457953
>>566457243>spend almost every waking day playing deadlock, despite any complaints I have about the game or the cast>genuinely can't quitthis game might be the first ever game I played that is actually too fun for my own good
>>566457972This but without a hint of irony
>>566457676>remove her autoaim gun>give her proper summons
>>566457676Impossible because if her summons are viable people will cry about it and if her gun is viable people will cry about it and icefrog is too autistic about his vision to not do things his way.
hey let's make a character that>has a gun that requires little aiming, and practically automates her damage>has exclusively spirit-related abilities, which also helps automate her damagewhich leads to the conclusion being,>annoying as hell to deal with when her gun is strongor>annoying as hell to deal with when her spirit is strongjust make her less braindead to play and she would be fine
>>566458378I'm trans btw if that even matters
>>566457676holliday 2
>>566457953this but unironically>but I can't afford those itemsif you can't buy a single counter item in a 45 minute game sounds like you got outplayed by victor
Warden ult is literally yamato's but dumbed down for the m1gger audience.
>>566457642>square portraitsunc shit
Plapping Graves for being an annoying BRAT...
>>566458552>>566458758I didn't even read these posts before typing out this one>>566458806autistic minds think alike I suppose
>>566458864Except that holliday has an interesting kit and is at least fun to play
>be newfag>character that looks interesting is absolute dogshitthis happens way too often in video games>"don't worry about the meta too much"it's a team game. there's a limit to how far i can carry that relatively selfish mindset
My only problem with graves is that her 2 is a quantum object that exists on every single point in spacetime and roots me for no fucking reason despite me being 50 billion light years away.Otherwise she's fine, I can easily pin her against the wall and splatter her brains all over it while she tries to kill me with her gay little beam hand
>>566459150Which character anon?
>>566459502graves....
>>566459150>there's a limit to how far i can carry that relatively selfish mindsetkeep stressing anon, while us seekerGODS continue to RUN this gen and have fun
>>566459150Possibly only Holliday is an actual throw character, but if you onetrick her your ELO will work out to where it should be anyway.
What is the difference between an autoaim gun and 90% of sp*rit abilities hitting things that exist in your field of view on cast?
>>566459538Graves is fine. She has a positive winrate at most badgeranks.
>>566459538>Transcendent cooldown>Boom you're now permanently keeping a lane pushed out even if your ugly bastard zombies are basically glorified creeps
>gets matched in tomtom 5 lobby as oracle 1 shitter>win under 20 minutes>no promotionNigger. Is it because we didn't farm the ranked algorithm like that forum post was saying?
>>566459759>only viable as an ult botnigga-san...
>>566459721they're just different because... well they just are!
>>566459721BRO AIM IS A SKILL!>*Hits my ult that (with the exception of Venator) doesn't require aim. Looking at you, Haze*
>>566459796better start getting them stamina masteries
Double beam Graves with Ricochet, Toxic, Inhibitor, Siphon and Silencer... vgh...
>>566459796There's literally no point in playing standard after these rank changes>Win game>No rank up>Lose game>Rank down
>>566459956>566459956honest as hell
>>566459956>Venator has Rem and Graves's net worth combined I mean
>>566459796Yes. Welcome to "performance" based ranking.
>boosted niggers complaining they can't perform and thus don't get ranked upNot my problem.
>>566460314Not my fault that in every single game I play, both teams permabrool in mid for trophy collector stacks while I'm stuck on lane janny duty
>>566460421owl bomber GT is really comfy for lane janny duty. send an owl every 40 seconds to the teamfight and call it a day
yeah i'll just wait till bros gather to play together.solo queue in this game is too much of a miserable experience
>>566460028>>Lose game>>Rank downI ranked up a couple days ago into alc 2 after losing two games. Its bullshit.
>Still no ranked changeGOOD STUFF YOSHIWhat's the point of trying to win if it doesn't matter
>>566455807>>566456975he has a burlap sack over his head, but hes probably a crispy skeleton under it anyway
>>566460984If you cared about trying to win you wouldn't be playing Appalo
>>566460984I won 8 in a row and didn't rank up
>>566455807He's like Dynamo now, I think. His voiceline kinda supports this since he did read his research into the astral gate and thanked him for it.
>>566460784You can also farm a lane/help with fights and clear waves with owl if the situation calls for it.Bad for building stacks but helps split push a lot.
Deadlock is bad right now? Nooo, Deadlock is still good! In fact, I’d like to see how ‘ol Yoshi the Dinosaur can even possibly make the game worse THIS time!>Yoshi makes the game worse easilyAh! Well. Nevertheless,
>>566460984>no incentive to win anymorelol, yoshi really hates his own fucking game
>>566461507just play seven/victor and permafarm. if you win 1v11 then good, you promote. if you lose, then whatever you will never demote because your numbers are good
>>566460984so you're fucking TELLING ME AT THIS EXACT MOMENTTHAT THERE'S NO REASON TO PLAY THE GAME SINCE YOU CAN'T RANK UPgod fucking DAMNIT YOSHI
>Lose lane>Doesn't matter and team carries me>Win lane>Doesn't matter because every other lane fed a 5k soul leadI don't even know if this is matchmaking's fault or just mmr gods punishing me for breathing
>>566461643You can always play for fun
>>566461084>If you cared about trying to win you wouldn't be playing Appaloin what world
>win 7 games in a row>finally rank up>lose 1, immediately rank down>win 1, no change>lose 1, rank down AGAINYoshi is a fucking NIGGER
>>566462035You got baited by a seeker bro.
>>566461671Losing lane means you were fighting the duo with 1-2 tier higher rank than youWinning lane means you were the designated higher tier player that had to carry the game.Basically half the game is recognizing when you are fighting the bully and just shoving lane instead of feeding, usually if someone wants to switch at the start of the game that means there is a duo, which means that there is an enemy duo, and if enemies are switching around to your lane that likely means fighting a duo.Obviously not a hard rule but generally speaking that's the trend. I sure love this matchmaking without draft.
>>566462149punished for having fun, I'm afraid
>>566460984>>566461643>>566460209
>>566461643You could rank up if you weren't a boosted animalPlay better
Gutshot is a bullshit, fuckass ability and venator players do not deserve respect.
every game must be perfect or you will rank down>every game must be perfect or you will rank downevery game must be perfect or you will rank down>every game must be perfect or you will rank downevery game must be perfect or you will rank down>every game must be perfect or you will rank down
>>566462689>You could rank up if you were a boosted animalBoost more*ftfy
>>566462757>Gutshot is an incredible, RAPIST ability, and Venator players are extremely honest and deserving of respect.ftfy
>>566371508>17 hours and 46 minutes agowhy did deadlock flop
>>566458758>icefrog is too autistic about his vision to not do things his way.so is the game's matchmaking just permanently fucked now or what
>>566463216the people are bored, the patch is stale, and the matchmaking/mmr system is busted as fuck
>>566463216because there's no fucking patch, how long does it take to rework the fucking jungle/walkers
>Ignore vexing bolt and just start bunny & ultmaxxing>Win Wauw, Sinclair is still a struggle to play though, his lane is so shit especially if you're fighting flying high mobility heroes. What's the deal with movement scaling with spirit but it's so negligible
>>566459062skill 1 - aoe nukeskill 2 - mobility on demandskill 3 - passive m1ggerslopult - cc WOW NOW THATS UNIQUE AND FUN
>Use enemy jumpad to fly in and rape holiday>"Thanks holiday"
>>566463343>his lane is so shit>>no boltmaxxing or assistantmaxxinggee, I wonder why
why do hardly any characters in this game look visually appealing
>east coast, get put into west coast servers>high ping>type status into conosole>one (1) literally ONE person is west coast, everyone else is east coast with 70+ pingwhoever is the retard that is responsible for this matchmaking system needs to be taken outside and shot. this is quite literally the exact opposite of efficiency
I like neon prime seven
>>566463670I do get t2 assistant asap but the bolt is so hard to hit versus the aoe of the bunny, sinclair also struggles with sustain in lane so generally I pivot into health and gun items and that means melee bunny is more effective for meI'm sure it's a skill issue tho
>>566463719let me guess, you prefer neon prime
>>566463343>his lane is so shit His lane is one of the strongest though if you play with your assistant.
>solo queue>play like a demon, frying and raping>duo with my friend who's a full tier and change below me>play like a retard, int every lane, or win lane then go cross-eyed in the midgamewhat the fuck
>>566464426you are a trans/gay and in love with you're friend so you get flusterd
>>566464426have you thought of thinking about why instead of just thoughtlessly noticing it then complaining about it
>>566464426Cuz you're busy shooting the shit with your buddy instead of focusing on the game?
>venator doesn't die 5 times by 3 minute mark
>warden has 5 kills by the 3 minute mark
>>566457676I genuinely cannot fathom how her gun is a problem in any way and i'm not even particularly high rank, i'm just phantom. Literally just run away from her or kill her, she has two HP and has to spend the entire game farming to do anything. I 100% agree with Vegas that they should buff the spirit aspect of the character, her double wall build was so fun but it only lasted one week
>>566460984If you're not ranking up its because you've been carried in your victories. The new system rewards actually contributing to the victory, not the victory itself. Icefrog's only mistake was thinking that moba players are mature enough to handle a system that tells them they suck to their faces.
>>566464983m1ggers always seethe when a character has autoaim, just look at what people think about moira and scarlet witch
>>566464524>>566464682i knew it... i've been burying these feelings for so long... lying to myself....
>>566465165>Deadlock adds MMR score, except it's invisible>Deadtards defend thisIf I'm 10 points away from ranking up to poopoo rank AT LEAST LET ME SEE IT
I don't know who asked for this performance based matchmaking, but they and Yoshi should be beaten for this garbage. It's completely fucked.
>haha, I am the ONLY intelligent moba player. All of you suck at the game, all of you have been getting carried, and ALL of you are MORONS! You need to EARN your victory!>goes back to using his melee abrams buildwhy are moba players like this
How much damage should I be doing as a support Rem? What about Ivy per match? I'm new, sorry.
>Team raped early game, two walkers lost, mirage calling the gg minute 15>Somehow keep team cohesion and after enemies fuck up on 3rd walker total reverse sweep into victory minute 30&>Teammate ragequits minute 10 but we 5v6 into a win somehow minute 35Sometimes mm throws you a bone
>>566463948i'm a newfag, never touched that shit
>>566465496Speaking for supp ivy you shouldn't be near the top unless you're popping off, but you should be around your team's average if nothing elseYes even if you're doing heal or cc builds
>>566465313i agree the trans puppygirl silver one trick should be allowed to be boosted to eternus by their autistic faggot lover and stay there forever even though they feed 15 kills every game when they play solo
>>566465643What are you talking about?
I like CandB torture...how do I learn holliday?
>>566465873people play with their friends. their new friends get put in places they shouldn't be at high ranks. without performance based matchmaking it takes HUNDREDS of games for that person to derank, and in each of those games the new player is greifing their team and ruining the game. performance based matchmaking deranks people multiple ranks per game which is far better than the older system
>>566466023I accept your concession schizo-kun.
>get butfucked in lane>go 0/16 basically trying to lose/feeding because im sick of every game being 40 minutes of 'just lose slower'.>still win>rank upWhy is the game like this?
>>566465171it's moreso the movementfags than the m1ggers
>silver becomes s tier>game starts dyingI’m nooticing…
>>566466219Same thing, really. Movement and gun meta should both be culled.
>>566465873>t. the trans puppygirl silver one trick
>>566466282She's SO strong she killed the game
>>566466282>>566466337
characters like paradox and pocket should only unlock at asc+
>>566466023>>566465643You’re acting as if this only works one way. If the boosted girl gamer sucks every game and her eternus level bf is carrying then eventually they will both reach a balance at around Oracle
>>566466285are you that same nigger that said they hate movement in deadlock but glazes quake movement like there's no tomorrow
>>566466391>character unlock systemewwwwww nasty
>be paige>completely useless>get dived every fighthow do supportsissies stand this playstyle
>>566466575i told myself it was fine because by focusing on me my team gets to win the fight but then they stopped winning fight soooo
>>566466575they gain sexual pleasure from being helpless. pretty common fetish like bondage
>>566464983Because m1ggers and movement faggots are bitchy whenever there's a fun character that can get easy value. Because they just want the game to be a head-clicking contest. Funny thing is, these are the same people the throat pro meta cock constant and automatically agree with everything the top .02% of players say even though 99% of it doesn't apply to them or their dogshit rank, or the majority of the player base. And even top ranks agree that graves is dogshit. Hating graves is very midwit behavior. Auto aim and ghosts/zombies are fun. If you don't want to fight a graves, you can literally just walk away and theres nothing she can do about it.
>>566466391>"We should add a system that fills high ranks with people playing characters for the first time"The average Alchemist player on a character they know would fucking molest an ascendant player trying a character for the first time.
>be paige>most annoying character in the fucking game>"WANNA MEET A DRAGURRNN?!!!!?!!?"how do redditsissies stand this mouthbreathing niggeronian libtard
>>566466689people hate graves because she can get good value (or used to) with extremely low skill. just like how people hate trust fund kids and nepobabies in real life. because it's not "fair"
>>566466807bit of an out of pocket example, but I see the vision
>>566466785Because they imagine cornering her and intimidating her into violent crying sex.
>>566463343When you get T2 assistant you should basically never lose lane. I don't actually remember losing a lane after picking Sinclair up.
>>566466575Deadlock made support the worst feeling role to play with their focus on reactive/counter support. You still get dove and killed like in other shooters, but because you dont have 40000apm and twitch reactions for your 20 active items you get fuck all value from playing support. At least in ow you can actually get value by just existing around your team before you die.
>>566466807>people hate graves because she can get good value (or used to) with extremely low skillGraves fills a similar niche to TF2 Pyro desuThere's sauce but the character also performs(performed) fine if you were jose.gonzalez.2007 with 200 ping and 15 fps.People hate Pyro for similar reasons, though atleast a Pyro has airblast for skill expression, Grave's skill expression kind of ended at "be smart enough to slide at people".
remove movement remove parries
>>566466417yeah because having an eternus player in oracle is balanced...
>LET'S SEE WHO'S STILL STANDIN'!>but first, I need to cut off my dick real quick so I can get a damage buff from it, hold on
>>566467052remove ALL movement
>>566466391unlocked by default>abrams>dynamo>kelvin>paige>mo & krill>venator>wardenunlocked by 50 wins>ivy>mirage>yamato>graves>haze>geistunlocked by 100 wins>lash>drifter>billy>vyper>apollo>grey talon>pocket>silver>calicounlocked by 250 wins>wraith>rem>victor>infernus>mina>viscousunlocked by 500 wins>celeste>shiv>holliday>paradox>vindicta>doorman>sinclair
>>566466807>get good value (or used to) with extremely low skillThis is not a bad thing and people need to stop pretending it is.
>>566467052Done, everyone now plays as Towers and sits around doing nothing but killing their respective troopers.The win con is kind of like PvP tetris, whoever can remove troopers better wins.
>>566467052>>566467153>press wasd>does nothing>press f>does nothingCongratu-damn-lations, you fixed Deadlock!
>>566467154forgot seven in unlocked by default and mcginnis in 50 wins
>>566467154this kind of suggestionslop is the reason why yoshi abandoned this general
>>566467160basically like running a marathon but one guy gets a bike
>>566467063If his team also has an 0/20 initiate giving you constant soul stimmies, kinda yeah.Especially if that initiate is his GF and is constantly distracting him with bored and frustrated sighs and grumbles because she isn't having fun playing with her tryhard BF.Even the best player can only overcome so much.
>>566467285>suggestionslopkys pls
>>566467197the nefarious billy with melee charge slowly swinging closer to you
remove m1ggers and make cooldowns stronger. There, I fixed deadlock.
>>566467493>remove all the fun and make nothing ever happenmein gott...
>>566467365they may have taken my wasd, but they'll never take... MY LEFT SHITS KEY!!!!!!>rolls away from the melee charge billycheckmate, bozo
>>566453634>"Hitting three shots on foes"FUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOUUUUSHUT THE FUCK UP AAAAUUUUUUUUUGHHHH STOP DOING THIS SHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAFFFFFFFUCKING GUNLOCK AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOF WOOF WOOF GRRRRRRRR *snarls* GRORWROWWRRWROWORWROWORORWRG
>>566450081Even a tibetan monk can't resist the temptation of pressing that button. Nothing you could have done I'm afraid.
>>566467547>remove all the funwdym? m1ggers are the anti-fun of deadlock
>unlocked by 250 wins>infernus
>>566467052>remove dash, jump, sprite>in fact, remove wasd>you now have to click to where your character walks to>we've made the camera a top-down view to aid this
>>566467595>dynamo soars from the heavens like a majestic, heavenly eagle>uses 2 to dispel your mania>"Rearranging ato-!">it doesn't work>,,,
>>566468283fucking christ anon why is it taking up 3/3rds of my screen when I click on it
i'll play drifter again once they turn him into a spirit hero. gun drifter is unbelievably boring
>>566467748w... wait a second
>>566467102
>>566467052Remove WASDYou point and click where to goThe FOV should also be changed to be top down, instead of over the shoulder like it is now
>>566468382How'd you make it bigger
>>566468283clearly Dynamo needs buffs
>>566468502He is a spirit hero if you get radiant regen and escalating exposure and throw stalker's mark on people, then you *teleports behind them* and rend them (infused with qsr/magnum and surge of power) and watch them DIE
>gun meta'ing anything is boring>spirit meta is way more fun and interestingoh wow, I actually get to have fun using my full arsenal of abilities in an ability-based game, with a bunch of different mechanics based around using these abilities instead of playing CoD Black Ops Battlefront simulator woahit's almost like if I wanted to play a gun-focused game I would go play fucking Seige instead or something
>>566468595I'm pretty sure t's feature you can find inhttps://www.4chan-x.net/
>>566468862guns should be removed from the game
you hate graves because she's low skill. i hate graves because she's jewish.
>>566438284lash is fun and good
>>566468718*dispels*
>>566469443I hate graves because every time i get to play her its against the sweatiest mfs in the game that sit on my lane for some fucking reason
>>566470629>>566470629
>>566467154>infernus>250 wins??????????????????
>>566434180This is how I and all the other Mina mains look!
>>566457676>Lich is a ghost that follows her>M1 shoots projectiles with Low Fire rate>In close range, connecting the beam increases damage and fire rate and heals the Lich if it takes damage>Her 3 lets her place down and lich like a turret and aim it like The Wrangler from tf2
>be new player>try graves>have to be close range to use her left click but her abilities are for out of range>her abilities are also 50 years on cooldown???am i missing something here
>>566475000one of the worst characters in the game
>Lose because our Rem goes 0/11/1 in the first ten minutes with Torment Pulse and Trophy Collector>Rank up anywayT-Thanks
